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TAR 29 Transportation
« on: June 10, 2016, 11:47:39 PM »
Post any transportation info (flights, trains, buses, boats/ferries, etc.) for the new race.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2016, 11:51:14 PM »
Flights to Panama City (taken from live tweets thread):

Copa (CM) 362 LAX-PTY 2208 (6/10) - 0649 (6/11)
Copa (CM) 303 LAX-PTY 2343 (6/10) - 0824 (6/11)
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2016, 07:17:48 AM »
One and a half hour lead is a lot!
Do we know how many teams got on the first flight?

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 08:44:25 AM »
I KNEW I was forgetting something!!

Yes 5 teams got on the first flight.

The F/F team was the first of the second flight group/
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2016, 09:48:59 AM »
I just checked Flight Radarand the second flight was delayed an hour!!!!


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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2016, 12:50:49 PM »
The teams on the second flight ended up being 2 1/2 hours behind the first teams
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2016, 10:54:13 AM »
Flights to Aalesund, Norway (possible spec)

Precision Air (PW) 715 ZNZ-NBO 19:35 (6/18) - 21:15 (6/18)
KLM (KL) 566 NBO-AMS 23:47 (6/18) - 6:54 (6/19) (scheduled 23:59-7:15)
KLM (KL) 1185 AMS-BGO 8:23 (6/19) - 10:01 (6/19) (scheduled 8:25-10:05)
Wideroe (WF) 456 BGO-AES 11:53 (6/19) - 12:48 (6/19) (scheduled 11:55-12:45)

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PW712 ZNZ-DAR 2110 (6/17) - 2140 (6/17)
KL567 DAR-AMS 2317 (6/17) - 0724 (6/18) (scheduled 2305-0725)
KL1143 AMS-OSL 0920 (6/18) - 1052 (6/18) (scheduled 0920-1105)
DY408 OSL-AES 1411 (6/18) - 1513 (6/18) (scheduled 1415-1515)
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2016, 08:23:32 PM »
It is unlikely teams departed directly from Ålesund to Milan. There are no direct flights from Ålesund to Heathrow on 20 Jun, so teams would have been on this itinerary:
SA1321 SK1321 from Ålesund to Oslo, 1425-1520
SA811 SK811 from Oslo to London Heathrow, 1715-1830, actual arrival 1906
Sightings at London Heathrow from 1940 onwards
BA582 from London Heathrow to Milan, 2035-2330

However, better options exist from Ålesund to Milan (unless they were full):
Via Frankfurt
SA1321 SK1321 from Ålesund to Oslo, 1425-1520
LH863 from Oslo to Frankfurt, 1705-1910
LH258 from Frankfurt to Milan, 2150-2300
Via London Gatwick
D82829 from Ålesund to London Gatwick, 1550-1710
U25299 from London Gatwick to Milan, 2005-2300

Bergen isn't likely either. A Bergen-Heathrow itinerary would also involve them going via Oslo. The latest flight is DY625 from Bergen to Oslo, 1500-1555. However, there are these better options:
Via Amsterdam (leaves 55min before the Oslo flight)
KL1188 from Bergen to Amsterdam, 1405-1550
VY8436 from Amsterdam to Milan, 1825-2005
Via Copenhagen and Munich (shorter connection times)
SA2873 SK2873 from Bergen to Copenhagen, 1600-1720
LH2445 from Copenhagen to Munich, 1900-2035
LH1864 from Munich to Milan, 2145-2050

Teams most likely set off for Milan from Oslo. But a bus from Ålesund to Oslo would take 11 hours, giving them little space between Ålesund on 19 Jun and the departure from Oslo on the afternoon of 20 Jun. Was Ålesund a KOR leg followed by a long bus ride to Oslo, or did teams fly into Oslo for a task or two before leaving?

Edit: Oops, thanks Claude!
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2016, 09:54:55 PM »
SA is an IATA airport code for South African Airways, but the IATA code for Scandinavian Airlines is SK.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2016, 05:13:21 PM »
Possible schedule

June 14
SA 223  GRU-JNB 1800-0725+1 (1814-0721+1)
SA 186  JNB-DAR 1030-1450 (1034-1455)
PW 713  DAR-ZNZ 1600-1630

Leg 3 in the evening of June 15

June 16 - rest

Leg 4 June 17 morning

Leg 5 starts June 18 morning

There was a tweet suggesting teams were in the Zanzibar airport on the morning of the 18th at 11am, so other than what's posted above teams may be able to get on this

PW 423  ZNZ-DAR 1500-1530
EK 726  DAR-DXB 1645-2320 (1652-2310)
KL 428  DXB-AMS 0050+1-0600+1 (0049+1-0539+1)
KL 1141 AMS-OSL 0700-0845 (0700-0853)
SK 1314 OSL-AES 1020-1130 (1033-1137)     OR     SK 1320 OSL-AES 1110-1205 (1120-1224)  if earlier one was full

There was also a possibility of going through Bergen,
KL 1185 AMS-BGO 0825-1005 (0823-1001)
WF 456  BGO-AES 1155-1245 (1153-1248)
But I suspect that the Wideroe plane might be too small to carry amazing race teams.

June 20
If teams are released from/arrived at oslo early enough they can get to milan much earlier than the heathrow connection
SK 1321 AES-OSL 1425-1520 (1431-1524)
SK 4745 OSL-BRU 1630-1825 (1712-1915)
U2 2798 BRU-MXP 1925-2055 (1927-2045)
Although there is probably an hours of operation waiting at milan


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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 11:15:28 AM »
The train routes from Venice to Bari are:
Frecciabianca 35801 from Venice to Bari, 0657-1432
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Frecciarossa 9407 from Venice to Bologna, 0725-0850
Frecciabianca 35803 from Bologna to Bari, 0942-1521
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Regionale Veloce 2227 from Venice Mestre to Bologna, 0754-0940
Intercity 605 from Bologna to Bari, 0958-1700
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Frecciargento 9415 from Venice to Bologna, 0925-1050
Frecciabianca 35807 from Bologna to Bari, 1142-1721
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Frecciarossa 9419 from Venice to Bologna, 1025-1150
Frecciabianca 35809 from Bologna to Bari, 1242-1823

The Superfast ferry from Bari to Greece follows this schedule:
Depart Bari at Thu 23 Jun 7:30pm
Arrive Corfu at Fri 24 Jun 4:30am
Arrive Igoumenitsa at 6:00am
Arrive Patras at 1:00pm
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 11:32:29 AM »
The train routes from Venice to Bari are:
Frecciabianca 35801 from Venice to Bari, 0657-1432
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Frecciarossa 9407 from Venice to Bologna, 0725-0850
Frecciabianca 35803 from Bologna to Bari, 0942-1521
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Regionale Veloce 2227 from Venice Mestre to Bologna, 0754-0940
Intercity 605 from Bologna to Bari, 0958-1700
-or-
Frecciargento 9415 from Venice to Bologna, 0925-1050
Frecciabianca 35807 from Bologna to Bari, 1142-1721
-or-
Frecciarossa 9419 from Venice to Bologna, 1025-1150
Frecciabianca 35809 from Bologna to Bari, 1242-1823

The Superfast ferry from Bari to Greece follows this schedule:
Depart Bari at Thu 23 Jun 7:30pm
Arrive Corfu at Fri 24 Jun 4:30am
Arrive Igoumenitsa at 6:00am
Arrive Patras at 1:00pm

Although unlikely Volotea does daily flights from Venice to Bari. The flight lands in Bari at 16:25 which gives teams 3 hours to get to the ferry.

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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2016, 03:33:57 AM »
help!!  :funny: ??? they are just departing athens?

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Update: I finally got a new flight. I am finally going to be heading home. It's now 5:13. But, the amazing race cast (a show I've never seen) is on our plane... Cool, I guess. Idk other people seem to think it's cool.

Found out that some other passengers on the same cancelled flight (AA759 on 25 Jun from Athens to Philadelphia) were rebooked on:
LX1843 from Athens to Zurich, 26 Jun 0630-0820
AA93 from Zurich to Philadelphia, 1045-1355

If the poster above was rebooked on the same flight (not a certainty), our teams would have been on the bolded flight to Zurich.

If teams were connecting via Zurich, here are the most likely next destinations:
Zurich to Mumbai 0945-2140
Zurich to Delhi 1245-2355
Zurich to Tokyo 1300-0750
Zurich to Beijing 1320-0515 (there's an option via Warsaw and Moscow arriving at 0430)
Zurich to Bangkok 1330-0530

And here are most likely not the next destinations, as there are better itineraries available (including direct flights from Athens):
Dubai, Tel-Aviv, Moscow, Delhi, Singapore, Shanghai, Hong Kong
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2016, 01:25:17 AM »
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2016, 01:27:53 AM »
The sighting for Airport was post about 2-3 hour ago. So I think around 10-11 o'clock in Hanoi. So I think they might flight from London.

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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2016, 01:32:30 AM »
The sighting for Airport was post about 2-3 hour ago. So I think around 10-11 o'clock in Hanoi. So I think they might flight from London.

VN54  LHR-HAN  08:15+  09:00

Indeed. There is also a flight from Frankfurt to Hanoi, VN 36 FRA-HAN depart 1415 arrival 0624+1 which is earlier than two flights. The flight between Paris and Hanoi is a daily direct/non-stop flight.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2016, 05:38:28 AM »
help!!  :funny: ??? they are just departing athens?

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Please take me home. After the flight from Athens to Philadelphia was delayed from 11:35 to 20:00 we were finally allowed to board the plane. They then told us that customs would not be there for us when we got there. We proceeded to sit on the plane for 2 hours. We were told to sit down and buckle up because we would be leaving shortly (the plan was to fly to EWK and go through customs then fly to PHL). We sat for another hour and 30 mins just to be told our flight was cancelled. I am now sitting in a non-moving line. It is 00:46. I just want to go home. Please send help. People are sleeping on the airport floor. There are crying, tired children, elderly stuck in wheelchairs, and dogs that just want out of their cages. I know you can do something about this. Please. Please do.

xxxxx
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Update: I finally got a new flight. I am finally going to be heading home. It's now 5:13. But, the amazing race cast (a show I've never seen) is on our plane... Cool, I guess. Idk other people seem to think it's cool.

Found out that some other passengers on the same cancelled flight (AA759 on 25 Jun from Athens to Philadelphia) were rebooked on:
LX1843 from Athens to Zurich, 26 Jun 0630-0820
AA93 from Zurich to Philadelphia, 1045-1355

If the poster above was rebooked on the same flight (not a certainty), our teams would have been on the bolded flight to Zurich.

If teams were connecting via Zurich, here are the most likely next destinations:
Zurich to Mumbai 0945-2140
Zurich to Delhi 1245-2355
Zurich to Tokyo 1300-0750
Zurich to Beijing 1320-0515 (there's an option via Warsaw and Moscow arriving at 0430)
Zurich to Bangkok 1330-0530

And here are most likely not the next destinations, as there are better itineraries available (including direct flights from Athens):
Dubai, Tel-Aviv, Moscow, Delhi, Singapore, Shanghai, Hong Kong

There is a flight from Bangkok to Hanoi that would fit the timeline (assuming they flew via Zurich and Bangkok)

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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2016, 08:34:00 AM »
Spec: If teams are traveling to South Korea, and if teams are travelling via American, then the only flight out of Hanoi is a 12:05 AM flight to Tokyo (AA 8421, codeshare Japan Airlines JAL752) on 30 Jun, from where I'm sure there are plenty of flights over to Seoul...there are plenty of non-stops to Seoul from Hanoi, which I'm assuming production would take.

(And then if this spec is true, then there's Asiana flight 107 that leaves Tokyo and arrives in Seoul at 11:30 am on 30 Jun, and Korean Air 706, arriving at 11:50 am.)
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2016, 10:31:39 AM »
I'd expect them to be on VN414 (1025-1635) or KE480 (1220-1840) on 30 Jun from Hanoi to Incheon.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2016, 11:25:52 AM »
Why Neobie?  Is there nothing good sooner? HArd to believe they would want the penultimate leg to be a nighttime one.

Looking for sunset times lol
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2016, 11:27:44 AM »
6:42 PM

Thursday, June 30, 2016 (GMT+7)
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2016, 06:19:42 PM »
Why Neobie?  Is there nothing good sooner? HArd to believe they would want the penultimate leg to be a nighttime one.

Teams were expected to arrive at the travel agency in Hanoi between 1-7am on 30 Jun. The first flight to Seoul leaves at 10:25am. (The previous flight left at 1:45am.)

We should be looking at sunset times in Seoul, not Hanoi! It's at 7:57pm today, so we may have about 2-3 hours before it gets dark. Seoul might make a good nighttime leg though!
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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2016, 09:53:15 PM »
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2016, 03:22:52 PM »
Assuming we have South Korea leg this season, here's the flight that suggest the F3/F4 teams most likely taken to Chicago:


Korean Air KE37 (ICN - ORD)
Scheduled: 1040 (Jul 2 2016) - 0935 (Jul 2 2016)
Actual: 1100 (Jul 2 2016) - 0947 (Jul 2 2016)


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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2016, 03:36:38 PM »
Assuming we have South Korea leg this season, here's the flight that suggest the F3/F4 teams most likely taken to Chicago:


Korean Air KE37 (ICN - ORD)
Scheduled: 1040 (Jul 2 2016) - 0935 (Jul 2 2016)
Actual: 1100 (Jul 2 2016) - 0947 (Jul 2 2016)

It seems like teams were spotted starting around 2:00 pm CDT...I feel like arriving at 9:45 am would result in sightings earlier than this.  Edit: But upon looking for other flights, doesn't seem to be any other direct ones that would work.  Perhaps long customs line?  Earlier task we missed?  Or connecting flight?  Or not Seoul?


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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2016, 03:39:23 PM »
Don't forget teams and crews had to clear Customs at ORD. On a busy holiday weekend. With a lot of events in Chicago on this particular holiday weekend, especially downtown.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2016, 06:28:30 PM »
The sighting at O'Hare was at 11:29am, 2 Jul 2016.

Possibly Anchorage?
30 Jun: Leg 10 Seoul
1 Jul: Depart Seoul in evening...
1 Jul (again): Arrive Anchorage in afternoon, Leg 11 Anchorage
2 Jul: CI5238 from Anchorage to Chicago (0225-1039), Leg 12 Chicago
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2016, 06:41:55 PM »
The sighting at O'Hare was at 11:29am, 2 Jul 2016.

Possibly Anchorage?
30 Jun: Leg 10 Seoul
1 Jul: Depart Seoul in evening...
1 Jul (again): Arrive Anchorage in afternoon, Leg 11 Anchorage
2 Jul: CI5238 from Anchorage to Chicago (0225-1039), Leg 12 Chicago

But Seoul was leg 11. Unless Africs was one leg.

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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2016, 06:51:28 PM »
I think the possibility of Tanzania being one leg is higher than production making this a 13-leg race though!
I am 100% sure there was another leg between Seoul and Chicago.


I was wrong? ???
Do we have a 13-leg race? Or did they make the last Pit Stop a really, really long one instead of the usual short one?
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2016, 11:07:38 PM »
The sighting at O'Hare was at 11:29am, 2 Jul 2016.

Possibly Anchorage?
30 Jun: Leg 10 Seoul
1 Jul: Depart Seoul in evening...
1 Jul (again): Arrive Anchorage in afternoon, Leg 11 Anchorage
2 Jul: CI5238 from Anchorage to Chicago (0225-1039), Leg 12 Chicago

I believe that flight was a freighter, not a passenger. I'll post a bit for a non-stop flight from Seoul to Chicago.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2016, 11:17:17 PM »
Noebie,

I didn't think that any trans-pacific passenger flights stopped in Anchorage any more.

Only freighters now a days. This is mainly because they are loaded a lot heavier than the passenger flights.

They could have done Seoul-Narita-Chicago......that way they at least get on an American codeshare to Chicago on JAJL.

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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2016, 01:58:01 AM »
Tokyo Narita airport did offer two non-stop flights on July 2nd.

ANA Airlines NH12 (NRT-ORD)
Scheduled: 1045 (Jul 2) - 0825 (Jul 2)
Actual: 1040 (Jul 2) - 0805 (Jul 2)


JAL Airlines JL10 (NRT-ORD)
Scheduled: 1110 (Jul 2) - 0905 (Jul 2)
Actual: 1110 (Jul 2) - 0846 (Jul 2)

BUT I doubt teams take this flight since teams only sighted around afternoon and both flights arrival time from Tokyo Narita were MUCH EARLIER than the non-stop flights from Seoul to Chicago.

Korean Air KE37 (ICN - ORD)
Scheduled: 1040 (Jul 2 2016) - 0935 (Jul 2 2016)
Actual: 1100 (Jul 2 2016) - 0947 (Jul 2 2016)

Further search there's more flights from Seoul to Chicago but need a airport connection. (IIRC someone said they only started to get sighted around 2.00pm CDT and thus any connection flights that arrived Chicago after 2.00pm is ignored since they would need some time for custom clearance)


Airport connection via Shanghai (ICN - PVG - ORD)
Korean Air KE893 (ICN - PVG)
Scheduled: 0835 (Jul 2) - 0940 (Jul 2)
Actual: 0906 (Jul 2) - 0953 (Jul 2)
OR
China Eastern Airlines MU5052 (ICN - PVG)
Scheduled: 0855 (Jul 2) - 0930 (Jul 2)
Actual: 0913 (Jul 2) - 1022 (Jul 2)
THEN
China Eastern Airlines MU717 (PVG - ORD)
Scheduled: 1140 (Jul 2) - 1240 (Jul 2)
Actual: 1159 (Jul 2) - 1301 (Jul 2)



Airport connection via Beijing (ICN - PEK - ORD)
Asiana Airlines OZ331 (ICN - PEK)
Scheduled: 0840 (Jul 2) - 0940 (Jul 2)
Actual: 0908 (Jul 2) - 0945 (Jul 2)
OR
China Southern Airlines CZ316 (ICN - PEK)
Scheduled: 0810 (Jul 2) - 0915 (Jul 2)
Actual: 0809 (Jul 2) - 0914 (Jul 2)
THEN
Hainan Airlines HU497 (PEK - ORD)
Scheduled: 1340 (Jul 2) - 1320 (Jul 2)
Actual: 1349 (Jul 2) - 1340 (Jul 2)



Airport connection via Detroit (ICN - DTW - ORD)
Delta Airlines DL158 (ICN - DTW)
Scheduled: 1025 (Jul 2) - 1020 (Jul 2)
Actual: 1024 (Jul 2) - 1007 (Jul 2)
THEN
Delta Airlines DL6283 (DTW - ORD)
Scheduled: 1210 (Jul 2) - 1239 (Jul 2)
Actual: 1210 (Jul 2) - 1232 (Jul 2)

I suspect teams most likely take the flight with connection either Beijing or Shanghai (and outside chance connecting Detroit) because of the time they start to get sighted. While production might take the earlier flights including the non-stop flights from Seoul to Chicago.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2016, 05:12:45 AM »
The train routes from Venice to Bari are:
Frecciabianca 35801 from Venice to Bari, 0657-1432
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Frecciarossa 9407 from Venice to Bologna, 0725-0850
Frecciabianca 35803 from Bologna to Bari, 0942-1521
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Regionale Veloce 2227 from Venice Mestre to Bologna, 0754-0940
Intercity 605 from Bologna to Bari, 0958-1700
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Frecciargento 9415 from Venice to Bologna, 0925-1050
Frecciabianca 35807 from Bologna to Bari, 1142-1721
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Frecciarossa 9419 from Venice to Bologna, 1025-1150
Frecciabianca 35809 from Bologna to Bari, 1242-1823

The Superfast ferry from Bari to Greece follows this schedule:
Depart Bari at Thu 23 Jun 7:30pm
Arrive Corfu at Fri 24 Jun 4:30am
Arrive Igoumenitsa at 6:00am
Arrive Patras at 1:00pm

Although unlikely Volotea does daily flights from Venice to Bari. The flight lands in Bari at 16:25 which gives teams 3 hours to get to the ferry.

Indeed. The teams likely taking the Alitalia flight from Venice to Bari with a stop in Rome on June 23rd.

AZ 1466 VCE-FCO 1230-1335 (scheduled 1210-1325)
AZ 1613 FCO-BRI 1544-1700 (scheduled 1435-1535)

Then, ferry from Bari to Patras as we know.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2016, 04:00:45 PM »
Would the most likely option be one of the many trains that run via Hanoi & Ninh Binh. These take roughly 2 hours.

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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2017, 05:59:46 AM »
Leg 2 transportation

Since Flightstats can't access to historical flight data on the actual date of filming (it requires a subscription to access the data).

Dates between June 12 and 13, 2016

Flight 1: CM 800 PTY-GRU 1524-0030+1 (Matt and Redmond)
Flight 2: CM 725 PTY-GRU 1542-0045+1
Flight 3: CM 517 PTY-BOG 1545-1726 >> JJ 8001 BOG-GRU 2120-0530+1
Flight 4: CM 493 PTY-LIM 1546-1919 >> AV 917 LIM-GRU 2200-0450+1
Flight 5: CM 703 PTY-GRU 1827-0330+1
Flight 6: CM 759 PTY-GRU 2124-0620+1 (Jessie and Francesca)
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2017, 01:44:21 AM »
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2017, 12:49:04 AM »
Based on the episode, it looked like Matt and Redmond and Ashton and Vanck got on the 1542-0045 and Sara and Shamir, Seth and Olive, and Brooke and Scott got on one that got in at that was supposed to arrive at 0330 (which I think is the 1827-0330). Also, according to Becca and Floyd and London's recap videos, Jessie and Francesca's flight got in 4 hours after the other teams (which I assume means 4 hours after Flight #5)
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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2017, 02:41:45 AM »
I don't know if you guys have figured that out already, but Logan & London transferred through Bogota, Colombia.

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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2017, 05:21:17 AM »
^^ That same video revealed Jessie & Fran went via Mexico to Sao Paulo :iok
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2017, 03:25:55 PM »
Filling in some of the gaps in Claude's itineraries, plus spec of my own

Dates between June 12 and 13, 2016

Flight 1: CM 800 PTY-GRU 1524-0030+1 or CM 725 PTY-GRU 1542-0045+1 (Matt & Redmond, Vanck & Ashton)
Flight 2: CM 703 PTY-GRU 1827-0330+1 (Seth & Olive, Shamir & Sara, Scott & Brooke)
Flight 3: CM 493 PTY-LIM 1546-1919
             AV 917 LIM-GRU 2200-0450+1 (Mike & Liz)
Flight 4: CM 517 PTY-BOG 1545-1726
             JJ 8001 BOG-GRU 2120-0530+1 (Logan & London)
Flight 5: CM 759 PTY-GRU 2124-0620+1 (my best guess for Becca & Floyd and Tara & Joey)
Flight 6: AM 625 PTY-MEX 1615-1825
             AM 14   MEX-GRU 2325-1055+1 (Jessie & Francesca)

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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2017, 12:22:31 AM »
The only ways I can justify taking the direct GRU-JNB flight and all get bunched (?) at the ferry terminal in dusk per the sneak peek are

1) a task or tasks in Dar es Salaam upon arrival; while there's precedent of this (TAR 27) I feel like why bother when there's definitely a leg in Dar already planned? Or
2) teams miss the first flight out to Dar; this ALSO has precedent (TAR 11) and I think production 'built in' the extra time with the ferry to account for unexpected flight drama. I suspect some teams made their way on

SA 223 GRU JNB 1800 0725 (+1)
SA 188 JNB DAR 1335 1755 (+1)

which fits with the twilight scene at the ferry.


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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2017, 03:50:19 PM »
Rewatched the ep and it turns out teams were on SA 188  :bunny

After seeing that, plus the previews, I figured 'why not see how flights are impacted if teams depart from DAR?'; as it turns out it makes things substantially easier. I suspect teams will have an extended Pit Stop, allowing Phil to take this flight on the 17th and teams on the 18th

KL0569 DAR AMS 2310 0745(19th)
KL1325 AMS AES 0940 1140(19th)

which fits production's tendency to have a 'simple' way out of Africa, especially since I'm sure they remembered the trauma of flying out of DES in All Stars (<3).

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« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2017, 02:18:41 AM »
See my recent post in LIVE too. I think  so too.
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« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2017, 10:21:14 PM »
Does anyone have information about which teams take the Dar Es Salaam <---> Zanzibar ferries on Leg 3 and 4?
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2017, 11:11:01 PM »
I suspect they were split onto

- ferry A: 1230 1430 (most teams)
- ferry B: 1530 1730 (Shamir & Sara)

Sunset was around 1815 on 6/17 so it fits the darkening skies as Phil goes out to eliminate them.
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« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2017, 11:47:51 PM »
The leg was not on 6/18, it was the 17th. Phil left Tanzania that same night after S&S eliminated.
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Re: TAR 29 Transportation
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2017, 01:11:22 AM »
Apologies, Claude :)

Also, on the question of 'how do teams get to LHR to fly to MXP', here's a thought:

- teams drive from Alesund to Andalsnes (108 km, roughly 1:36, and since it's a relatively 'safe' area with a late sunset, everyone should be able to make the drive by the end of 6/19)
- teams travel by train from Andalsnes to Oslo
-- Andalsnes to Lillehammer    0738 1055
-- Lillehammer to Oslo Central 1114 1326
- teams fly from Oslo to Milan, connecting in London. My guess is
-- BA767 OSL LHR 1725 1850
-- BA582 LHR MXP 2056 2357 (confirmed through sightings), where they're stopped by an hours of operation.

Any team that is sufficiently speedy could wind up on

SK1471 OSL CPH 1510 1620
SK0687 CPH MXP 1710 1915, or

KL1218 TRF AMS 1625 1810
KL1637 AMS MXP 2100 2240

but in either case they would still likely be bunched.

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« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2017, 01:18:57 AM »
The leg was not on 6/18, it was the 17th. Phil left Tanzania that same night after S&S eliminated.
So maybe that's explain Phil come to RB location and eliminate S&S on the spot because S&S fall behind like 3 hours from the other teams due to missing the first ferry that cause S&S just barely arrived DES when the first seven teams are already checked in around sunset and Phil want to take the same day flight out of DES several hours later.
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« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2017, 01:08:06 AM »
From Londons recap we learned that Seth & Olive were on the same boat from Zanzibar to Dar es Salaam as Shamir & Sara. Since the latter were still racing Seth & Olive were forced to stay belowdecks.

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« Reply #49 on: Today at 09:06:59 AM »
Zack, the best option was the teams took the train from Andalsnes to Oslo Airport Station on the 20th of June.

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