Author Topic: TAR 25 Transportation (Read 23970 times)

claude_24hrs · « **on:** May 31, 2014, 01:52:35 AM »

Feel free to post the transportation for TAR25. Flights, trains, buses, car, boat, etc., whatever.

Neobie · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2014, 03:33:05 AM »

Plenty of flights to the Caribbean this morning.
I see multiple flights to several destinations: Montego Bay, San Juan, Santo Domingo, Port au Prince, Nassau, Aruba, St Thomas, and Punta Cana.

5.40am Montego Bay
5.40am Miami
5.45am San Juan
5.45am Bonaire
6.00am Santo Domingo
6.00am Fort Lauderdale
6.15am Kingston
6.24am Port au Prince
6.40am Nassau
6.55am Montego Bay
6.59am Aruba
7.00am San Juan
7.04am Bermuda
7.10am Cancun
7.25am Miami
7.30am Santo Domingo
7.38am San Juan
7.40am Fort Lauderdale
7.50am Port of Spain
7.50am St Thomas
8.00am Cancun
8.05am Miami
8.05am Antigua
8.10am Fort Lauderdale
8.10am Port au Prince
8.15am St George's
8.25am Punta Cana
8.30am Punta Cana
8.30am St Thomas
8.35am San Juan
8.35am Aruba
8.46am St Lucia
9.00am San Juan
9.00am St Maarten
9.00am Montego Bay
9.00am Miami
9.05am Nassau
9.05am Port au Prince

Alenaveda · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2014, 03:39:24 AM »

Maybe this can help?

Neobie · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2014, 03:42:22 AM »

Terminal 2 flights bolded:

5.40am Montego Bay
5.40am Miami
5.45am San Juan
5.45am Bonaire
6.00am Santo Domingo
6.00am Fort Lauderdale
6.15am Kingston
6.24am Port au Prince
6.40am Nassau
6.55am Montego Bay
6.59am Aruba
7.00am San Juan
7.04am Bermuda
7.10am Cancun
7.25am Miami
7.30am Santo Domingo
7.38am San Juan
7.40am Fort Lauderdale
7.50am Port of Spain
7.50am St Thomas
8.00am Cancun
8.05am Miami
8.05am Antigua
8.10am Fort Lauderdale
8.10am Port au Prince
8.15am St George's
8.25am Punta Cana
8.30am Punta Cana
8.30am St Thomas
8.35am San Juan
8.35am Aruba
8.46am St Lucia
9.00am San Juan
9.00am St Maarten
9.00am Montego Bay
9.00am Miami
9.05am Nassau
9.05am Port au Prince

Alenaveda · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2014, 04:07:02 AM »

Quote from: harley on May 31, 2014, 04:03:43 AM

Another post per PEACH:

Teams left Terminal 4 at JFK heading for St Thomas.

Neobie · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2014, 04:08:59 AM »

AA 1074 from New York JFK T8 to St Thomas: 0750-1150
DL 454 from New York JFK T4 to St Thomas: 0830-1227

Parovic · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2014, 04:14:23 AM »

Quote from: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 04:08:59 AM

AA 1074 from New York JFK T8 to St Thomas: 0750-1150
DL 454 from New York JFK T4 to St Thomas: 0830-1227

So the teams go to Barbados?or us virgin islands?

Neobie · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2014, 04:23:03 AM »

No Terminal 4 flights to Barbados; it's the US Virgin Islands.

DrRox · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2014, 12:24:52 PM »

St Thomas is one of those "end of the line" airports, as far as jet travel. It will be difficult to "escape" St Thomas without backtracking to San Juan.

But it is a perfect airport for one of those multiple staged charter flight legs. If they are going to London, then they can take charters from St Thomas to Antigua and catch British Airways or Virgin Atlantic to London Gatwick.

Neobie · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2014, 01:36:49 PM »

Miami looks like a good connection spot too. Leave St Thomas in the late afternoon and arrive in London the next morning.

Neobie · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2014, 04:46:09 PM »

Based on photos at JFK, St Thomas, and reports by Peach:

AA 1074 from New York JFK to St Thomas, 0750-1150, actual arrival 1140
-Confirmed-
Kym/Alli
Misti/Jim
-Likely-
Bethany/Adam
Isabelle/Dennis
Tim/Te Jay

DL 454 from New York JFK to St Thomas, 0830-1227, actual arrival 1205
-Confirmed-
Shelley/Nici
Lisa/Michelle
Amy/Maya
Whitney/Keith
Michael/Scott
Brooke/Robbie

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #11 on:** June 01, 2014, 12:45:14 AM »

The flights for leg 2 is going to be reserved, and London isn't actually a destination, but it's a connection point. I'll update this post for the flight schedules for the second destination.

DrRox · « **Reply #12 on:** June 01, 2014, 01:45:26 AM »

Quote from: claude_24hrs on June 01, 2014, 12:45:14 AM

Flights to London:

American Airlines (AA) 1350 from Saint Thomas to Miami, 0845-1145
British Airways (BA) 206 from Miami to London-Heathrow, 1725-0650+1

American Airlines (AA) 943 from Saint Thomas to Miami, 1350-1655
American Airlines (AA) 56 from Miami to London-Heathrow, 1820-0810+1

American Airlines (AA) 2421 from Saint Thomas to Miami, 1630-1930
American Airlines (AA) 38 from Miami to London-Heathrow, 2110-1100+1

What dates are these flights, Claude?

DrRox · « **Reply #13 on:** June 01, 2014, 03:23:14 PM »

Well since it appears at least one team was flying from St Thomas to Atlanta, here are some flight connections.

June 1
STT to ATL
DL 674 2:30 pm-6:25pm

ATL to LHR
DL 84 9:31pm-11:05am (TER 1)
BA 226 9:54pm-11:05am (TER 5)
DL 10 10:49pm-11:25am (TER 1)

On the oft chance that they are indeed going to South Africa, here are some connection flights.
LHR to JNB
SA 235 (TER 1) 7:00pm-7:20am
BA 55 (TER 5) 7:10pm-7:10am
VS 601 (TER 1) 9:00pm-9:05am

There are two more flights at around 9:00pm if needed. One is SA in TER 1 and BA in TER 5) The do have plenty of time to switch terminals at Heathrow.

dav · « **Reply #14 on:** June 01, 2014, 04:40:00 PM »

Claude, how do you know London is just a connection point? And are the flights in London getting in on June 2nd in the morning?

georgiapeach · « **Reply #15 on:** June 01, 2014, 04:48:45 PM »

Quote from: dav on June 01, 2014, 04:40:00 PM

Claude, how do you know London is just a connection point?

He doesn't. We do not know one way or another yet.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #16 on:** June 01, 2014, 04:50:11 PM »

to RFF dav!

dav · « **Reply #17 on:** June 01, 2014, 05:08:16 PM »

Thanks georgiapeach i feel very welcomed! I've been I guess you can call it a lurker the past several years of these wonderfully elaborate spoiler boards. But I was just so tempted to register because I was pleasantly surprised a few moments ago to see that London was a possible leg destination since I am currently based in London at the moment and would love to view the Amazing Race in action in London bc it has been my favorite show. It was a bit annoying to see them landing in Heathrow last season and I'm still very tempted to go to Heathrow to at least try to see them and snap a few pics but I want to know as much as info of the racers' travel plans if I end up going.

Alenaveda · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:16:56 PM »

Quote from: TerraformingYou on June 01, 2014, 06:02:08 PM

Kooyava posted this on Instagram:

http://m.imgur.com/CoAeTCL

Oh, you know, just hanging out at the airport when the Amazing Race teams run through. Here is one team trying to get a leg up by getting on an earlier flight. They failed.

They're trying to get tickets on this flight:

Joeyslimo · « **Reply #19 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:21:29 PM »

All flights to London tonight

American AA 6171    London-Lhr   09:30 PM   09:30 PM   ON TIME   F7

Air France AF 3625    London-Lhr   10:49 PM   10:49 PM   ON TIME   F10

Air France AF 3681    London-Lhr   09:31 PM   09:31 PM   ON TIME   F12

British Airways BA 226 London-Lhr   09:30 PM   09:30 PM   ON TIME   F7

Delta DL 10 London-Lhr   10:49 PM   10:49 PM   ON TIME   F10

Delta DL 84 London-Lhr   09:31 PM   09:31 PM   ON TIME   F12

Alenaveda · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:26:45 PM »

Air France AF 3625 is a codeshare with Delta DL 10.

Air France AF 3681 is a codeshare with Delta DL 84.

American AA 6171 is a codeshare with British Airways BA 226.

DrRox · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:28:09 PM »

just wondering why you guys are posting the codeshare flights? They just mess up the information.

There are only 3 flights from Atlanta to Heathrow tonight that teams can connect too and they are posted above. The rest of the flights you posted are just codeshare flights

Joeyslimo · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:28:35 PM »

Teams are flying on Delta 84 i just asked the person who posted that pic of that team trying to catch an earlier flight and she said there sitting at Gate F12 which this flight leaves out of

Alenaveda · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2014, 06:30:10 PM »

BA 226 appears now with a 24 minutes delayed (according to Flightstats)

DrRox · « **Reply #24 on:** June 01, 2014, 07:10:16 PM »

Credit to Kooyava

They almost got a really good head start. The flight from St Thomas landed early and Flight 38 was delayed to 6:53.......they had 52 minutes to make the connection.......a good try.

Alenaveda · « **Reply #25 on:** June 01, 2014, 07:11:28 PM »

Yeap, DrRox, I was thinking the same.

scott14 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:27:41 AM »

Leg 3 Transport:

Oxford 6:36 - 7:37 Birmingham Int
Birmingham Int 7:53 - 12:16 Haymarket
Haymarket 12:32 - 14:50 Aberdeen

Then a ferry from Aberdeen to the Shetland Islands

DrRox · « **Reply #27 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:56:58 AM »

Quote from: scott14 on June 04, 2014, 02:27:41 AM

Leg 3 Transport:

Oxford 6:36 - 7:37 Birmingham Int
Birmingham Int 7:53 - 12:16 Haymarket
Haymarket 12:32 - 14:50 Aberdeen

Then a ferry from Aberdeen to the Shetland Islands

I am assuming that this is train travel?

scott14 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 04, 2014, 03:13:53 AM »

Yes trains to Aberdeen then the ferry

Neobie · « **Reply #29 on:** June 04, 2014, 03:24:40 AM »

NorthLink runs a ferry from Aberdeen to Lerwick, leaving at 7pm and arriving at 7.30am tomorrow morning.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #30 on:** June 04, 2014, 04:22:36 AM »

Oh we are in for some amazing scenery! I have done that ferry in a Force 10 gale, lol!

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #31 on:** June 04, 2014, 06:21:30 AM »

The train from Oxford to Aberdeen has only two stops as Scott posted, plus with the ferry to Shetland Islands waiting five hours long. Shetland Islands has two airports, Sumburgh Airport is the archipelago's main airport and flies to major UK cities, including Aberdeen, Glasgow and Edinburgh. While the other airport (Lerwick/Tingwall) serves destinations only throughout small towns in Shetland Islands.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #32 on:** June 04, 2014, 10:18:29 PM »

The next scheduled arrival in Lerwick is the M.V. Hjaltland on Thursday 5th June at 07:30

On schedule

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #33 on:** June 07, 2014, 05:59:02 PM »

Leg 4 transport (Lerwick, Shetland Islands, Scotland > Malmo, Sweden)

Quote from: clemsonbeav on June 07, 2014, 05:56:12 PM

Guessing on flights, based on timing of the pic by Freya (http://web.stagram.com/p/737689763319279454_224656434)

Leave Lerwick Friday for Aberdeen. (BA 4075, 13:35-14:35)
Aberdeen to London on Friday (BA 1313, 16:45-18:15, or BA 1315, 18:30-19:55)
Spend the night in London, then flight BA 814 to Copenhagen today, 09:55-12:50, which arrived today at 12:30, as per http://www.cph.dk/en/flight-info/arrivals

Alternatively, they could've done ferry/train back to London. Regardless, I think flight 814 is how they got to Copenhagen.

Here's the earliest flight to Copenhagen: British Airways (BA) 812, 0728 (6/7) - 1008 (6/7)

Train to Malmo: R1036, 1026-1046 from Kastrup Airport to Malmo Central

clemsonbeav · « **Reply #34 on:** June 07, 2014, 06:05:29 PM »

Sorry, I had time zones confused. I think it was BA 820 from London to Copenhagen...arrived 18:37, pic was uploaded at 18:44. Don't know for sure how they got to London. Of course, this is all assuming pic got posted right after it was taken. Who knows?

clemsonbeav · « **Reply #35 on:** June 07, 2014, 06:09:39 PM »

Quote from: claude_24hrs on June 07, 2014, 05:59:02 PM

Leg 4 transport (Lerwick, Shetland Islands, Scotland > Malmo, Sweden)

Quote from: clemsonbeav on June 07, 2014, 05:56:12 PM
Guessing on flights, based on timing of the pic by Freya (http://web.stagram.com/p/737689763319279454_224656434)

Leave Lerwick Friday for Aberdeen. (BA 4075, 13:35-14:35)
Aberdeen to London on Friday (BA 1313, 16:45-18:15, or BA 1315, 18:30-19:55)
Spend the night in London, then flight BA 814 to Copenhagen today, 09:55-12:50, which arrived today at 12:30, as per http://www.cph.dk/en/flight-info/arrivals

Alternatively, they could've done ferry/train back to London. Regardless, I think flight 814 is how they got to Copenhagen.

Here's the earliest flight to Copenhagen: British Airways (BA) 812, 0728 (6/7) - 1008 (6/7)

Train to Malmo: R1036, 1026-1046 from Kastrup Airport to Malmo Central

Taking the earliest flight makes sense...we should just assume that freyaries waited to upload, perhaps.

Chateau d If · « **Reply #36 on:** June 07, 2014, 06:23:26 PM »

Quote from: claude_24hrs on June 07, 2014, 05:59:02 PM

Leg 4 transport (Lerwick, Shetland Islands, Scotland > Malmo, Sweden)

Quote from: clemsonbeav on June 07, 2014, 05:56:12 PM
Guessing on flights, based on timing of the pic by Freya (http://web.stagram.com/p/737689763319279454_224656434)

Leave Lerwick Friday for Aberdeen. (BA 4075, 13:35-14:35)
Aberdeen to London on Friday (BA 1313, 16:45-18:15, or BA 1315, 18:30-19:55)
Spend the night in London, then flight BA 814 to Copenhagen today, 09:55-12:50, which arrived today at 12:30, as per http://www.cph.dk/en/flight-info/arrivals

Alternatively, they could've done ferry/train back to London. Regardless, I think flight 814 is how they got to Copenhagen.

Here's the earliest flight to Copenhagen: British Airways (BA) 812, 0728 (6/7) - 1008 (6/7)

Train to Malmo: R1036, 1026-1046 from Kastrup Airport to Malmo Central

I think they drove from CPH to Malmo. It only takes 27 min according to Google maps. See the Ford Focus in these shots:

DrRox · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2014, 08:08:17 PM »

Earliest flight from London to Copenhagen is U2 3091 7:00am-9:32 am.

I agree with Chateau.........cars from Kladstrup International to Malmo.

I haven't check ferry schedules yet, but this looks like a prime place for the old moving pit stop. That gives Phil plenty of time to skip ahead.

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #38 on:** June 08, 2014, 12:17:52 AM »

DrRox, EasyJet (U2) doesn't fly between in/out of London-Heathrow, but it flies only four London Airports (Gatwick, Luton, Southend and Stansted).

Leg 4 started at around early afternoon on June 6 (Friday), teams are likely to fly to Copenhagen.

Loganair (LOG) 6996, LSI-EDI, 1605-1744 (scheduled 1605-1730)
British Airways (BA) 1463, EDI-LHR, 1955-2111 (scheduled 1935-2100)
Spend the night at London Heathrow Airport to find the earlier BA flight to Copenhagen
British Airways (BA) 812, LHR-CPH, 0728+1-1008+1 (scheduled 0710+1-0955+1)

This has ruled out and I agree with DrRox, see the post below for the ferry schedules.

I think Phil, Bertram and the production crew left Shetland Islands by the morning of June 6th to Copenhagen:

Loganair (LOG) 6992, LSI-EDI, 0740-1000 (scheduled 0740-0905)
British Airways (BA) 1443, EDI-LHR, 1152-1324 (scheduled 1155-1325)
British Airways (BA) 818, LHR-CPH, 1513-1800 (scheduled 1430-1720)

DrRox · « **Reply #39 on:** June 08, 2014, 08:33:30 AM »

Were teams spotted at Heathrow? Also, why cant they fly from Stansted. It is a lot closer to the Shetland Islands than Heathrow. Teams may not be allowed to fly on Easy Jet. We don't know. My main gripe was someone said the first flight from London to Copenhagen was the BA flight.. which is not true.

As I said above, it will be interesting to see if Production used the moving pit stop ferry ride, like they did in the recent TAR 23. I would suspect that would give teams a long time to search the internet for quickest way to Copenhagen.

Mattjimf · « **Reply #40 on:** June 08, 2014, 01:15:46 PM »

Stanstead is closer to the Shetland Islands, as Newark is closer to Hawaii than either LaGuardia or JFK

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #41 on:** June 08, 2014, 11:59:07 PM »

Leg 4 in which teams likely ferry from Lerwick to Aberdeen, and plane to Copenhagen (June 6-7):

Ferry to Aberdeen (6/6), 1730-0700+1 (via Kirkwall)

Flights to Copenhagen (6/7):
British Airways (BA) 1303, ABZ-LHR, 0834+1-1016+1
Scandinavian Airlines (SK) 502, LHR-CPH, 1251+1-1531+1

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #42 on:** June 09, 2014, 08:33:33 PM »

Well, teams are seen in Marrakesh at past 4:00 pm on June 9th, and there are the itinerary flights:

FLIGHT ITINERARY # 1

Air France (AF), CPH-CDG, 0659-0935
Train to Paris-Orly Airport, 0957-1122 or 1022-1136
Transavia France (TO) 3018, ORY-RAK, 1252-1425

FLIGHT ITINERARY #2

Scandinavian Airlines (SK) 1685, CPH-MXP, 0826-1028
Royal Air Maroc (AT) 655, MXP-RAK, 1305-1516

FLIGHT ITINERARY # 3

Lufthansa (LH) 2441, CPH-MUC, 0840-1019
Royal Air Maroc (AT) 641, MUC-RAK, 1445-1630

georgiapeach · « **Reply #43 on:** June 09, 2014, 08:53:06 PM »

There are also flights via London and Barcelona I think...

theschnauzers · « **Reply #44 on:** June 09, 2014, 10:00:52 PM »

Quote from: claude_24hrs on June 09, 2014, 08:33:33 PM

Well, teams are seen in Marrakesh at past 4:00 pm on June 9th, and there are the itinerary flights:

FLIGHT ITINERARY # 1

Air France (AF), CPH-CDG, 0659-0935
Train to Paris-Orly Airport, 0957-1122 or 1022-1136
Transavia France (TO) 3018, ORY-RAK, 1252-1425

FLIGHT ITINERARY #2

Scandinavian Airlines (SK) 1685, CPH-MXP, 0826-1028
Royal Air Maroc (AT) 655, MXP-RAK, 1305-1516

FLIGHT ITINERARY # 3

Lufthansa (LH) 2441, CPH-MUC, 0840-1019
Royal Air Maroc (AT) 641, MUC-RAK, 1445-1630

Without direct evidence of the departing flight(s), I think one needs to be careful about assuming which itinerary teams might have taken between locations. We don't know when teams departed the previous pit stop, and we don't know if teams have restrictions or directions concerning their flights.

DrRox · « **Reply #45 on:** June 11, 2014, 08:42:30 AM »

Quote from: theschnauzers on June 09, 2014, 10:00:52 PM

Quote from: claude_24hrs on June 09, 2014, 08:33:33 PM
Well, teams are seen in Marrakesh at past 4:00 pm on June 9th, and there are the itinerary flights:

FLIGHT ITINERARY # 1

Air France (AF), CPH-CDG, 0659-0935
Train to Paris-Orly Airport, 0957-1122 or 1022-1136
Transavia France (TO) 3018, ORY-RAK, 1252-1425

FLIGHT ITINERARY #2

Scandinavian Airlines (SK) 1685, CPH-MXP, 0826-1028
Royal Air Maroc (AT) 655, MXP-RAK, 1305-1516

FLIGHT ITINERARY # 3

Lufthansa (LH) 2441, CPH-MUC, 0840-1019
Royal Air Maroc (AT) 641, MUC-RAK, 1445-1630

Without direct evidence of the departing flight(s), I think one needs to be careful about assuming which itinerary teams might have taken between locations. We don't know when teams departed the previous pit stop, and we don't know if teams have restrictions or directions concerning their flights.

That has always been the case, theschnauzers. This thread, especially during filming is to find all the potential/possible routes and then discard the ones that don't fit. We probably wont have enough data till the preview of the episode or even the episode itself to find the exact route.

DrRox · « **Reply #46 on:** June 11, 2014, 08:46:38 AM »

After researching easyjet........I will make the bold statement that TAR/WRP will never ever use them.......lol

easyjet is a copy of Southwest Airlines in the US.

theschnauzers · « **Reply #47 on:** June 11, 2014, 09:28:59 AM »

Dr Rox, my comments were directed towards the way that particular post was worded, and the apparent assumptions that certain of the information was conclusive.

There's a lot of uncertainty about exactly how teams got back to Copenhagen from the Shetlands and assuming that there was a nighttime task after the Shetlands in Copenhagen, then how and when teams got to Morocco.

I wanted to remind some that we need to collect all viable alternatives based on what little we actually know and not make undue assumptions.

DrRox · « **Reply #48 on:** June 11, 2014, 10:59:50 AM »

Well I never ever take anything in this thread as conclusive unless we have a sighting of a team on a particular flight........

claude just worked backward from the first report in Marrakech of the teams and found possible flights they could have used. A 4:00pm sighting in Marrakech really narrows down potential flights. Most of the flights/connections from Europe arrive after 6 pm.......

Leaving the Shetlands if a little more problematic. Teams arrived on the ferry at 7:30am on June 5th. It appears the pit stop was at that lighthouse at Esha Ness in the afternoon. It is about a 90 minute drive back to Lerwick from there. I thought that would be perfect to get teams back on the ferry and have Phill fly out. that sort of gives him a 12 hour head start. Now it appears that the teams probably spent the night in Lerwick and spent the next day at the library. If Leg 3 was an elimination....that leaves 8 teams to go to Copenhagen. Most of Loganair's planes are Saab 340s, 34 passenger turbo props. 8 teams is 32 people, but the Loganair flights to Aberdeen are on Saab 2000 which hold 58 people...so plenty of room for teams. I am assuming that production booked seats way ahead of time. This is afternoon of the 6th. IF there was a nighttime task in Copenhagen on the 6th, then teams could have flown directly to Copenhagen from Aberdeen on Cimber QA 1522 arriving in Copenhagen at 9:36pm. That one photo of the mother/daughter team in the airport in Copenhagen was posted at 11:44 am on the 7th of June sort of messes with that timeline.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #49 on:** June 14, 2014, 03:56:23 PM »

Palermo arrivals 6-13-14

dpe · « **Reply #50 on:** June 14, 2014, 07:42:35 PM »

departures from MLA.

Alenaveda · « **Reply #51 on:** June 14, 2014, 07:43:05 PM »

Schedule of one of the ferry companies from Catania to Malta for Saturday:

dpe · « **Reply #52 on:** June 14, 2014, 08:03:38 PM »

PM departures

georgiapeach · « **Reply #53 on:** June 14, 2014, 10:49:07 PM »

If they run the leg in the AM, then departure could be Monday early instead. And what non European destination pops out? Istanbul! Or go via Frankfurt anywhere...

DrRox · « **Reply #54 on:** June 15, 2014, 03:06:32 AM »

Actually the airport in Istanbul is in Europe........but just by a few miles. But there are lots of other major airports to connect for very long distance flights.......Frankfurt as you mentioned, Munich, Amsterdam, London Heathrow, Paris DeGaule, and Moscow.

Malta is strange airport......lots more activity on Sunday than on Monday.

The German gov continues to expand the Munich airport to relieve pressure on Frankfurt.

georgiapeach · « **Reply #55 on:** June 15, 2014, 01:36:10 PM »

6/16 AM Departures:

Neobie · « **Reply #56 on:** June 16, 2014, 08:44:58 PM »

Sorry guys, I've got a bit of catching up to do. Still working on Leg 4 here!

Freya has Nici/Shelley arriving at Copenhagen on 7 Jun. There's clock behind that reads either 12:30 or 6:05. Now Freya had just arrived from Vienna, which means she landed at either 8:28am, 8:58am, 5:05pm, 7:17pm, or 9:51pm. Matching the two lists gives us 6:05pm as the only likely timing.

This jives somewhat with this photo of Misti/Jim in Malmo by Emma, which judging from the shadows (pointing due East) was taken at around 6:00pm.

We know teams didn't leave by ferry from the Shetlands on the night of 5 Jun, nor take a flight leaving the Shetlands before the morning of 7 Jun, as they would have arrived in Copenhagen much, much earlier than 6:00pm on 7 Jun.

It is possible to fly from Sumburgh in the Shetlands into Copenhagen and make it by the time they were spotted in Copenhagen and Malmo:

Option 1
Sumburgh to Aberdeen, 0845-0945
Aberdeen to Amsterdam, 1100-1335
Amsterdam to Copenhagen, 1440-1600 (actual arrival 1610), or
Amsterdam to Copenhagen, 1555-1715 (actual arrival 1742)

Option 2
Sumburgh to Aberdeen, 0845-0945
Aberdeen to London Heathrow, 1120-1255
London Heathrow to Copenhagen, 1405-1700 (actual arrival 1657), or
London Heathrow to Copenhagen, 1430-1720 (actual arrival 1800)

Option 3
Sumburgh to Aberdeen, 0845-0945
Aberdeen to Frankfurt, 1210-1515
Frankfurt to Copenhagen, 1630-1755 (actual arrival 1750)

Option 4
Sumburgh to Bergen, 1155-1405
Bergen to Copenhagen, 1600-1720 (actual arrival 1725)

I don't like this because Options 1-3 utilise the same Loganair flight from Sumburgh to Aberdeen, which uses a 30-36 seater Saab 340. (DrRox, I'm getting the info from FlightStats. Did you have a different source?) There are a minimum of 8 teams left at this point (32 passengers). Would they all be able to make it out of the Shetlands?

Instead, production could have teams take the ferry back to Aberdeen (1730-0700), and avail themselves of Options 1-3. A really quick team might even be able to get on this:

Option 5
Ferry from Lerwick to Aberdeen, 1730-0700
Aberdeen to London Heathrow, 0830-1005
London Heathrow to Copenhagen, 1225-1520 (actual arrival 1531)

Conclusion: While it is possible that teams flew out of the Shetlands, I think it's most likely that they took a ferry from Lerwick to Aberdeen on the night of 6 Jun, and flew out of Aberdeen on the morning of 7 Jun, arriving in the late afternoon.

DrRox · « **Reply #57 on:** June 16, 2014, 10:38:27 PM »

Neobie....

I was using Sat June 6 as the date to fly out of Sumburgh. I was basing my timeline on when this photo was posted June 7 @ 11:44 am.

http://web.stagram.com/p/737689763319279454_224656434

theschnauzers · « **Reply #58 on:** June 16, 2014, 11:04:39 PM »

Neobie: Could there have been two flights out of Sumburgh to Aberdeen that would have used the same flight from Aberdeen to Copenhagen? Or could there have been producer-provided flight tickets to force teams onto only certain flights to Copenhagen out of either Sumburgh or Aberdeen?
The other question that has to be resolved is whether Phil, Bertram, et al, could have gotten a June 6th or very early June 7th flight out of Sumburgh to make it to Copenhagen and Malmo sufficiently ahead of the teams?
Ain't this enough to give one a headache!

Neobie · « **Reply #59 on:** June 17, 2014, 06:23:47 AM »

I think Webstagram uses your computer's local time to determine the timestamp on photos. For example, Freya's latest post, which was posted "21h" ago, shows up on my computer as posted at "2014-06-16 9:51". (I'm on Eastern Summer Time.)

The timestamp on the Copenhagen airport photo shows "2014-06-07 12:44" for me. This translates to 6:44pm on 7 June, which fits perfectly into a 6:05pm sighting. (It also betrays that DrRox, you're on Central Summer Time!)

As far as I can tell there was only one flight from Sumburgh to Aberdeen, on a Saab 340, that fits into our current timeframe. The next flight via Aberdeen into Copenhagen arrives at 11:05pm!

It is possible that there were producer-provided tickets from Sumburgh to Copenhagen. From Aberdeen to Copenhagen I think it's less neessary; it's relatively easy to get from Aberdeen to some other hub to connect to Denmark.

Here's a possible itinerary (out of many) for Phil:
Race starts at 7:30am on 5 June at Lerwick.
Leg ends by mid-afternoon.
LOG 6781 from Sumburgh to Aberdeen, 5/1940-2040
KL 1440 from Aberdeen to Amsterdam, 6/0600-0840
KL 1127 from Amsterdam to Copenhagen, 0940-1100

Alternatively, if he wants to spend the night on the Shetlands:
LOG 6771 from Sumburgh to Aberdeen, 6/0825-0925
KL 1444 from Aberdeen to Amsterdam, 1100-1335
KL 1131 from Amsterdam to Copenhagen, 1555-1715
Which still gives Phil a full day ahead of the teams.

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #60 on:** June 17, 2014, 07:20:07 PM »

Flights to Singapore

Air Malta (KM) 612 from Malta to Rome-Fiumicino, 0844-1000 (scheduled 0835-1000)
Singapore Airlines (SQ) 365 from Rome-Fiumicino to Singapore, 1206-0618+1 (scheduled 1200-0600+1)

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #61 on:** June 19, 2014, 05:45:15 AM »

Flights to Manila (via Peach):

Tigerair (TR) 2726, from Singapore to Manila, 1750-2130

Other possibilities:
Singapore Airlines (SQ) 918, from Singapore to Manila, 1925-2300

Being a Filipino, Manila's international airport has three terminals. Terminal one serves most international airlines, terminal two serves only Philippine Airlines including its subsidiary PAL Express, while terminal three serves Cebu Pacific, ANA and AirAsia Zest. There is a smaller terminal 4, which serves regional airlines.

Alenaveda · « **Reply #62 on:** June 22, 2014, 03:57:46 PM »

According to the sighting in Narita, today's flights:

DL284 NRT 4.00PM (4.13PM) LAX 9.50AM (9.13AM)
NH6 NRT 5.05PM (5.39PM) LAX 11.00AM (11.06AM)
JAL62 NRT 5.25PM (5.23PM) LAX 11.20AM (10.52AM)
UA33 5.30PM (5.27PM) LAX 11.50AM (11.17AM)
SQ12 7.15PM (7.16PM) LAX 1.30PM (1.01PM)

theschnauzers · « **Reply #63 on:** June 22, 2014, 04:07:20 PM »

It would seem that the first flight (DL 284) was the flight that prompted the first live LAX tweet this morning. The question is what flight from Manila to Narita connected with that flight that fits with when the teams were seen at the airport in Manila.

Alenaveda · « **Reply #64 on:** June 22, 2014, 04:14:30 PM »

I was digging a little on the previous tweets from the girl of the first sighting, and she was in Australia. Apparently she was traveling there and into PNG. She mentioned going to Brisbane before returning to the US.

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #65 on:** October 17, 2014, 11:19:16 PM »

Leg 4 transport

Quote from: claude_24hrs on June 08, 2014, 11:59:07 PM

Leg 4 in which teams likely ferry from Lerwick to Aberdeen, and plane to Copenhagen (June 6-7):

Ferry to Aberdeen (6/6), 1730-0700+1 (via Kirkwall)

Flights to Copenhagen:

Kym & Alli

KLM (KL) 1442, ABZ-AMS, 0933-1203 (scheduled 0910-1145)
KLM Cityhopper (WA) 1129, AMS-CPH, 1247-1410 (scheduled 1240-1400)*

Misti & Jim

KLM (KL) 1444, ABZ-AMS, 1047-1318 (scheduled 1100-1335)
SAS (SK) 548, AMS-CPH, 1447-1610 (scheduled 1440-1600)

Amy & Maya, Brooke & Robbie, Keith & Whitney and Adam & Bethany

Wideroe (WF) 365, ABZ-SVG, 1228-1432 (scheduled 1240-1435)
SAS (SK) 1877, SVG-CPH, 1559-1701 (scheduled 1600-1710)

Tim & Te Jay

British Airways (BA) 1307, ABZ-LHR, 1136-1324 (scheduled 1120-1255)
British Airways (BA) 818, LHR-CPH, 1513-1800 (scheduled 1430-1720)

Shelley & Nici

KLM (KL) 1446, ABZ-AMS, 1312-1542 (scheduled 1310-1545)
KLM Cityhopper (WA) 1133, AMS-CPH, 1705-1818 (scheduled 1705-1820)*

*KLM Cityhopper is a regional airline of KLM flies European cities.

maf · « **Reply #66 on:** October 21, 2014, 06:58:44 AM »

Quote from: claude_24hrs on October 17, 2014, 11:19:16 PM

Tim & Te Jay
British Airways (BA) 1307, ABZ-LHR, 1136-1324 (scheduled 1120-1255)
British Airways (BA) 818, LHR-CPH, 1513-1800 (scheduled 1430-1720)

Shelley & Nici
KLM (KL) 1446, ABZ-AMS, 1312-1542 (scheduled 1310-1545)
KLM Cityhopper (WA) 1133, AMS-CPH, 1705-1818 (scheduled 1705-1820)*

I think these two are wrong. My reasons:
* There were only two delayed flights into Copenhagen which fits what we are shown and told: KL1131and BA818
* The teams do not seem to arrive on the same flight
* We see Shelly & Nici board a BA flight

Therefore I think the real flights were:

Tim & Te Jay KL1444 ABZ-AMS 10:47 - 13:18 (scheduled 11:00 - 13:35) KL1131 AMS-CPH 16:31 - 17:52 (scheduled 15:55 - 17:15)

Shelley & Nici BA1307 ABZ-LHR 11:36 - 13:24 (scheduled 11:20 - 12:55) BA818 LHR-CPH 15:13 - 18:00 (scheduled 14:30 - 17:20)

Neobie · « **Reply #67 on:** October 27, 2014, 09:47:47 AM »

Looks like this was the flight teams took!

Mon 9 Jun 2014
SK 1685 from Copenhagen to Milan, 0825-1030
AT 655 from Milan to Marrakech, 1255-1515

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #68 on:** November 08, 2014, 07:11:26 AM »

Leg 7 flights

June 12th 2014, Thursday

All teams
AT802 RAK-CMN, 0704-0738 (scheduled 0720-0800)
AT940 CMN-FCO, 1240-1643 (scheduled 1240-1640)

Misti & Jim and Kym & Alli
AZ1769 FCO-PMO, 1900-2015 (scheduled 1850-2000)

Other four teams
AZ1791 FCO-PMO, 1930-2035 (scheduled 1930-2040)

Sunset in Palermo on June 12th 2014 was 20:30 (8:30 pm).

Neobie · « **Reply #69 on:** November 08, 2014, 09:04:27 AM »

Other options! (I can't tell what plane it was on the show, with two blue stripes on its livery?)

AT 802 from Marrakech to Casablanca, 0720-0800
AT 402 from Marrakech to Casablanca, 1015-1055
AT 822 from Marrakech to Casablanca, 1050-1130
AT 940 from Casablanca to Rome, 1240-1640

U2 1312 from Marrakech to Geneva, 0855-1300
LX 1754 from Geneva to Rome, 1400-1530

U2 2592 from Marrakech to Milan, 0905-1315
U2 907 from Milan to Rome, 1615-1735

U2 3868 from Marrakech to Paris CDG, 0915-1335
AF 1604 from Paris CDG to Rome, 1525-1730
AF 1404 from Paris CDG to Rome, 1600-1805

AT 640 from Marrakech to Paris ORY, 1005-1410
VY 6254 from Paris ORY to Rome, 1530-1730

-connecting to-

AZ 1769 from Rome to Palermo, 1850-2000
AZ 1791 from Rome to Palermo, 1930-2040

Alenaveda · « **Reply #70 on:** November 22, 2014, 08:21:12 AM »

Teams did the travel to Malta on Virtu Ferries. The ferries of this company depart from Pozzallo:

POZ-MAL 19.30PM - 21.15PM

claude_24hrs · « **Reply #71 on:** December 04, 2014, 06:07:15 AM »

Leg 9 flights

June 17th 2014, Tuesday

Adam & Bethany and Misti & Jim

KM478 MLA-CDG, 0637-0941 (scheduled 0635-0925)
SQ333 CDG-SIN, 1215-0640+1 (scheduled 1200-0640+1)

Three other teams

KM612 MLA-FCO, 0844-1000 (scheduled 0835-1000)
SQ365 FCO-SIN, 1206-0609+1 (scheduled 1200-0600+1)

Oops, I fixed the right time on the SQ arrival from Rome.

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