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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1150 on: June 21, 2014, 09:48:50 PM »
But thats not a fact obviously :funny: I am not a fortune teller its just a speculation that Ive had since the race started and doesnt have to do with them being seen multiple times but their characteristics - doctors, couple, fit... Those teams usually do pretty well. I cant talk bad about queen Whitney, cant say that a team will win, what else am I doing wrong so I dont make anymore mistakes :funny:
I am new obviously so I just want to know if there is in any rules I didnt read correctly

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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1151 on: June 21, 2014, 09:52:42 PM »
Are we sure Jim and Mitsi are in the final 3?


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« Reply #1152 on: June 21, 2014, 09:57:32 PM »
After a good point from someone saying that they could be decoys, I am not sure. Hopefully there will be more sightings at the airport later on with the other teams

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« Reply #1153 on: June 21, 2014, 10:00:42 PM »
I was thinking the same thing about them possibly being decoys too. I always look for backpacks and cameramen that photo in the live sightings looks like the two of them are getting coffee from Starbucks... who knows  ???

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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1154 on: June 21, 2014, 10:03:00 PM »
There was a cameraman in the photo, so I think they're really in the F3.


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« Reply #1155 on: June 21, 2014, 10:05:48 PM »
I do think they are in the f3, but thats not really relevant. I remember on tar15 Maria & Tiffany were running a leg in Estonia with cameraman as decoys

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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1156 on: June 21, 2014, 10:15:46 PM »
credits to Bryan Crawley
5 hrs near Parañaque, Philippines 

At the airport and they have a team here from the amazing race. Cool
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So that absolutely does not look like anything at Terminal 2 (the Philippine Airlines terminal), which would mean that they are not taking a direct flight to ANYWHERE in the US.  I'd recognize Terminal 2 any day. 

I haven't been in Terminal 1 since T2 opened, but I found this pic labelled as Terminal 1:


For comparison, this is Centennial Terminal 2, the Philippine Airlines Terminal:


Very odd that they would be connecting through somewhere else.  I would think it just prolongs the journey, maybe unnecessarily.  Unless they want them arriving at an exact time.  Philippine Airlines arrives in the evenings in both SF and LA with an extra Sunday flight arriving in the morning in LA.

However, it IS Summer vacation and the PAL flights can definitely get very full so maybe they had no room on that PAL flight.
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1157 on: June 21, 2014, 10:29:51 PM »
Actually it looks to me there may be two cameramen in that photo, and possibly members from two different teams.

It is always possible with this route, and needing to get the eliminated teams to the finish mat location, that the final three and the eliminated decoy teams are all on the same flight. Keep in mind that we know Bertram was already back in the US this week for the Critics Choice Award ceremonies, (TAR was nominated, but did not win), and Phil was known to have taken a flight out although I don't have the timing of the flights sorted out in my mind. But other production will likely be on the same flight, so it is possible that any sighted team might be decoys. (I'm not stating for certain one way or the other; I'm just trying to explain the variables with the long direct flight back presumably into LAX.) The other point to keep in mind is that the flight into LAX could be a connecting flight, although that hasn't happened in a long time. However, teams have flown into LAX to go to Seattle and on to Alaska, and one season, to connect to Phoenix.
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1158 on: June 21, 2014, 10:33:32 PM »
Oh wow your right I didnt notice the cameraman before  ok I got it  :funny:

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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1159 on: June 21, 2014, 10:45:21 PM »
As i recall from the photo i have taken outside Central Fire Station, Singapore, there were 2 cameramen too.
Actually it looks to me there may be two cameramen in that photo, and possibly members from two different teams.

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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1160 on: June 21, 2014, 11:29:51 PM »
nice eco bag :p , maybe some starbucks and duty free shopping  :hides


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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1161 on: June 21, 2014, 11:36:44 PM »
nice eco bag :p , maybe some starbucks and duty free shopping  :hides
I think maybe that's because they checked-in their backpacks and decided to run the race leaving the backpacks in airport (and pick it later) and run the race without any burden.

I'm pretty sure that all their money and passports are in the waist bag. :)
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1162 on: June 21, 2014, 11:45:50 PM »
nice eco bag :p , maybe some starbucks and duty free shopping  :hides
I think maybe that's because they checked-in their backpacks and decided to run the race leaving the backpacks in airport (and pick it later) and run the race without any burden.

I'm pretty sure that all their money and passports are in the waist bag. :)

So what is that? Last-minute shopping? Misti seems to have a green knapsack and a brown paperbag, something I haven't seen since the mugging penalty in season 6-9.
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1163 on: June 22, 2014, 01:09:21 AM »
After keeping my mouth shut, but following along and enjoying RFF for years, it’s time for me to speak... :peek

I believe that there is at least a decent chance that the
Philippine legs are only legs 9 & 10. 

Why?
I think that the Sicily/Malta leg could have easily been JUST ONE leg.  There is scant evidence that the teams were even in Sicily (only one pic by Phil of a tunnel).  The teams could easily have missed Sicily, picked up a RI there, or performed one task there, before heading to Malta.  Once again, there is no evidence the teams were even in Sicily.

Here’s my alternate  route scenario.

Leg 1: New York, USA  → St Thomas, US Virgin Islands FILM DATES: May 31
Leg 2:  St Thomas, US Virgin Islands  → Oxford, England FILM DATES:  June 1-2
Leg 3:  Oxford, England  → Shetland Islands, Scotland  FILM DATES:  June 4-5
Leg 5:  Copenhagen, Denmark  → Marrakesh, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 9-10
Leg 6:  Marrakesh, Morocco  → Unknown, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 11-12
Leg 7:  Unknown, Morocco  → Sicily, Italy → Valletta, Malta FILM DATES:  June 14-15
Leg 8:  Valletta, Malta  → Singapore   FILM DATES:  June 17-18
Leg 9:  Singapore  → Cavite, Philippines  FILM DATES:  June 19-20
Leg 10:  Manila, Philippines FILM DATES:  June 21
Leg(s) 11 and/or 12 still to come

Is this scenario even plausible?  :crazy:

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« Reply #1164 on: June 22, 2014, 01:22:03 AM »
After keeping my mouth shut, but following along and enjoying RFF for years, it’s time for me to speak... :peek

I believe that there is at least a decent chance that the
Philippine legs are only legs 9 & 10. 

Why?
I think that the Sicily/Malta leg could have easily been JUST ONE leg.  There is scant evidence that the teams were even in Sicily (only one pic by Phil of a tunnel).  The teams could easily have missed Sicily, picked up a RI there, or performed one task there, before heading to Malta.  Once again, there is no evidence the teams were even in Sicily.

Here’s my alternate  route scenario.

Leg 1: New York, USA  → St Thomas, US Virgin Islands FILM DATES: May 31
Leg 2:  St Thomas, US Virgin Islands  → Oxford, England FILM DATES:  June 1-2
Leg 3:  Oxford, England  → Shetland Islands, Scotland  FILM DATES:  June 4-5
Leg 5:  Copenhagen, Denmark  → Marrakesh, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 9-10
Leg 6:  Marrakesh, Morocco  → Unknown, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 11-12
Leg 7:  Unknown, Morocco  → Sicily, Italy → Valletta, Malta FILM DATES:  June 14-15
Leg 8:  Valletta, Malta  → Singapore   FILM DATES:  June 17-18
Leg 9:  Singapore  → Cavite, Philippines  FILM DATES:  June 19-20
Leg 10:  Manila, Philippines FILM DATES:  June 21
Leg(s) 11 and/or 12 still to come

Is this scenario even plausible?  :crazy:

If Philippines legs are leg 9 & 10, there should be 5 teams remaining in leg 9. but from the sighting we only have 4
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1165 on: June 22, 2014, 01:24:28 AM »
After keeping my mouth shut, but following along and enjoying RFF for years, it’s time for me to speak... :peek

I believe that there is at least a decent chance that the
Philippine legs are only legs 9 & 10. 

Why?
I think that the Sicily/Malta leg could have easily been JUST ONE leg.  There is scant evidence that the teams were even in Sicily (only one pic by Phil of a tunnel).  The teams could easily have missed Sicily, picked up a RI there, or performed one task there, before heading to Malta.  Once again, there is no evidence the teams were even in Sicily.

Here’s my alternate  route scenario.

Leg 1: New York, USA  → St Thomas, US Virgin Islands FILM DATES: May 31
Leg 2:  St Thomas, US Virgin Islands  → Oxford, England FILM DATES:  June 1-2
Leg 3:  Oxford, England  → Shetland Islands, Scotland  FILM DATES:  June 4-5
Leg 5:  Copenhagen, Denmark  → Marrakesh, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 9-10
Leg 6:  Marrakesh, Morocco  → Unknown, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 11-12
Leg 7:  Unknown, Morocco  → Sicily, Italy → Valletta, Malta FILM DATES:  June 14-15
Leg 8:  Valletta, Malta  → Singapore   FILM DATES:  June 17-18
Leg 9:  Singapore  → Cavite, Philippines  FILM DATES:  June 19-20
Leg 10:  Manila, Philippines FILM DATES:  June 21
Leg(s) 11 and/or 12 still to come

Is this scenario even plausible?  :crazy:

If Philippines legs are only legs 9 & 10, there should be 5 teams remaining in leg 9. but from the sighting we only have 4

Maybe 2 NEL in row? And maybe they only have 11 legs? Kym & Alli may be in lead? Or very far from rest of teams? Eliminated?
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1166 on: June 22, 2014, 01:24:43 AM »
Plus they try to keep the filming length to 21 days which they have been past this time.
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1167 on: June 22, 2014, 01:27:33 AM »
And Phil already on his way back to USA...

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« Reply #1168 on: June 22, 2014, 01:32:44 AM »
And I believe that teams is not sighted in Sicily due lack of a fan here. Or few is only here. Also there a lot users from Europe, but they busy or failed to spot teams.
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1169 on: June 22, 2014, 01:53:25 AM »
After keeping my mouth shut, but following along and enjoying RFF for years, it’s time for me to speak... :peek

I believe that there is at least a decent chance that the
Philippine legs are only legs 9 & 10. 

Why?
I think that the Sicily/Malta leg could have easily been JUST ONE leg.  There is scant evidence that the teams were even in Sicily (only one pic by Phil of a tunnel).  The teams could easily have missed Sicily, picked up a RI there, or performed one task there, before heading to Malta.  Once again, there is no evidence the teams were even in Sicily.

Here’s my alternate  route scenario.

Leg 1: New York, USA  → St Thomas, US Virgin Islands FILM DATES: May 31
Leg 2:  St Thomas, US Virgin Islands  → Oxford, England FILM DATES:  June 1-2
Leg 3:  Oxford, England  → Shetland Islands, Scotland  FILM DATES:  June 4-5
Leg 5:  Copenhagen, Denmark  → Marrakesh, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 9-10
Leg 6:  Marrakesh, Morocco  → Unknown, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 11-12
Leg 7:  Unknown, Morocco  → Sicily, Italy → Valletta, Malta FILM DATES:  June 14-15
Leg 8:  Valletta, Malta  → Singapore   FILM DATES:  June 17-18
Leg 9:  Singapore  → Cavite, Philippines  FILM DATES:  June 19-20
Leg 10:  Manila, Philippines FILM DATES:  June 21
Leg(s) 11 and/or 12 still to come

Is this scenario even plausible?  :crazy:

If Philippines legs are only legs 9 & 10, there should be 5 teams remaining in leg 9. but from the sighting we only have 4

Maybe 2 NEL in row? And maybe they only have 11 legs? Kym & Alli may be in lead? Or very far from rest of teams? Eliminated?

Good answers except...

1. It seems like it would be easier to miss seeing one team in Manila than than it would to have absolutely no evidence of teams even being in Sicily.  Phil could have just been passing through Sicily on his way to Malta - perfect time for him to throw us a red herring.

2. The final two legs could be in the USA, especially if they have to travel to Channel Islands (as an example). Thus Phil's return to the USA now.

3. There's no hard & fast rule that says they couldn't go for 22 days. That wouldn't be much of a budget killer if extra day is in the USA.


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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1170 on: June 22, 2014, 02:02:33 AM »
The Sicily leg did seem iffy to me. There was more than enough time there for a leg, and we know production went through there because of Phil's picture. But those missing days could be because of a long pit stop and then leg for the second Morocco leg. But if Siciliy/Malta is one leg, I think it's because there are only 11 legs in total.
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« Reply #1171 on: June 22, 2014, 02:18:16 AM »
I hope CBS and TAR will release a map of destinations for TAR 25. I want them back! If not, duh, nothing from RFF will happen when TAR US finish filming, expect TAR Canada, TAR Australia and TAR Vietnam, which I watch online and see results from Wikipedia. Oh, I can't wait. Wish I had enough space to download videos from internet, but overused by, my relatives. My laptop is duhh. Hope I get new better laptop or desktop so I can play GTA V, Sims 3 and Sims 4 without any lag.
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1172 on: June 22, 2014, 02:34:08 AM »
After keeping my mouth shut, but following along and enjoying RFF for years, it’s time for me to speak... :peek

I believe that there is at least a decent chance that the
Philippine legs are only legs 9 & 10. 

Why?
I think that the Sicily/Malta leg could have easily been JUST ONE leg.  There is scant evidence that the teams were even in Sicily (only one pic by Phil of a tunnel).  The teams could easily have missed Sicily, picked up a RI there, or performed one task there, before heading to Malta.  Once again, there is no evidence the teams were even in Sicily.

Here’s my alternate  route scenario.

Leg 1: New York, USA  → St Thomas, US Virgin Islands FILM DATES: May 31
Leg 2:  St Thomas, US Virgin Islands  → Oxford, England FILM DATES:  June 1-2
Leg 3:  Oxford, England  → Shetland Islands, Scotland  FILM DATES:  June 4-5
Leg 5:  Copenhagen, Denmark  → Marrakesh, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 9-10
Leg 6:  Marrakesh, Morocco  → Unknown, Morocco  FILM DATES:  June 11-12
Leg 7:  Unknown, Morocco  → Sicily, Italy → Valletta, Malta FILM DATES:  June 14-15
Leg 8:  Valletta, Malta  → Singapore   FILM DATES:  June 17-18
Leg 9:  Singapore  → Cavite, Philippines  FILM DATES:  June 19-20
Leg 10:  Manila, Philippines FILM DATES:  June 21
Leg(s) 11 and/or 12 still to come

Is this scenario even plausible?  :crazy:

I don't think that's possible. There were only 4 teams that were seen here in the Philippines, so its safe to assume that it was Leg 10-11.
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1173 on: June 22, 2014, 02:43:06 AM »
I don't think that's possible. There were only 4 teams that were seen here in the Philippines, so its safe to assume that it was Leg 10-11.
I think it's possible if they're going to do the TAR 7 way, where 4 teams racing in leg 9-10 and final 3 in leg 11-12. :P
But, the chance is really small.. Even I doubt it'll happen. :P
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Re: TAR 25 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #1174 on: June 22, 2014, 02:58:26 AM »
I don't think that's possible. There were only 4 teams that were seen here in the Philippines, so its safe to assume that it was Leg 10-11.
I think it's possible if they're going to do the TAR 7 way, where 4 teams racing in leg 9-10 and final 3 in leg 11-12. :P
But, the chance is really small.. Even I doubt it'll happen. :P
The possibility of 4 teams in leg 9 is greatly enhanced because of the SAVE pass issued at the beginning of the race. The SAVE may have meant that the producers scheduled one less NEL to make up for the unscheduled NEL/SAVE.  If this is the case, and one of the top 3 has the SAVE, they may not have ever needed to use it... and wamo - 4 teams in leg 9.