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Run out of countries?
« on: May 05, 2014, 01:29:09 PM »
Has the race finally run out of countries to visit for good?

TAR (The American version) has not visited a new country since Paraguay and Azerbaijan in Season 20 (unless you count French Polynesia, which is a part of France). Since then we've had nothing but repeats.

Overall, TAR as a franchise has not visited a new country since TAR Australia 2 visited Cuba (unless you count Curacao, which is a part of the Netherlands)

Do you think there are any further countries they could believably go to? Unlike the wishlist thread, here I'm more talking about logistics and what countries production would physically be able to go to safely and without issue.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 02:08:54 PM »
Sure.
Andorra. They can do an all leg in Andorra, or for example: Spain - Andorra - France, because is a little country.
Laos. Is so beautiful. They can replace some Thailand legs for Laos. xD
I'm thinking about Latvia, Belarus, Moldova... but with the Ukraine-Russia problem... Maybe it's not the safest place.
I'm sure some African countries can being a cool destination. The same with "Oceanic islands" (Fiji, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea...)
And finally, Honduras, Nicaragua... they are nice places to go.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 02:44:01 PM »
Slovakia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Servia, Bosnia- Herzegovina, Israel, Jordan. Even if the last four are on some forbidden list or nor the rest are pretty safe even by American standards.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2014, 03:14:50 PM »
wrt Israel, I think any version that attempted to go there would have to build their route about it (TARI is obvious, TARAus had several legs in SE / South Central Asia and in central Europe).

I think Caribbean legs might be the next frontier; it wouldn't be difficult to have a flight from the overseeing country to the island (so Netherlands to Curacao, France to Martinique, etc) and I think they're reasonably connected to the US so as to be the penultimate leg but the issue then becomes what could they do? Curacao would be a good country though if TARLA is any indication I'm very much concerned about the execution.

I think Angola is a little lacking in internal infrastructure, but I think it's well enough connected (to Europe, within Africa and even to SA through Brazil) and has enough to do to warrant a leg or two.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2014, 03:36:30 PM »
Myanmar is also a possibility.

The problem seems to be two-fold, maybe three fold. Some nations remain on the State Department Travel Advisory list, including some places TAR US has visited in the past such as Libya and Ukraine, for example. Other possible countries have become safer, but there may be concerns about being able to produce a leg ar two in those countries.

The second problem is have local production staffing available, TAR has not been to much of Africa since the death of a local producer who was based in South Africa and was in Kenya making production arrangements for another show a couple of years ago. That may be one reason why central and southern Africa have not been utilized in recent seasons.

The third reason may be that TAR US has become reliant on national tourism ministries and agencies to help arrange locations and tasks in order to facilitate being able to film in those countries.

One has to remember that all of the contestants and many of the traveling production team travel on US passports, and have to meet any local visa and other requirements imposed on US originating travelers. There are countries that impose more rigid requirements on US passport holders because of the post 9/11 security measure imposed by the US on nationals of certain other countries.

The other thing is that even when an area had settled down, the producers tend to wair a couple of years before considering those countries for future races. (Sri Lanka and its civil war only ended a couple of years ago, for instance.) And then, there's now the Sharia problem in some Islamic majority countries, and the anti0GBLT legislation in Russia and some African nations. The rigidity of these new laws also may make it difficult for TAR to plan to go to those places for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2014, 04:37:47 PM »
I don't think you meant Libya, maybe Egypt?

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2014, 06:23:15 PM »
TAR needs to visit the former Yugoslavia again, but with more creative tasks rather than traditional dances/stereotypical thoughts. Last night's episode in Seville ruined mainland Spain for me. :res:

I'd also suggest to TAR to design out-of-this-world routes for Central America, a relatively safe "-stan" country (like Tajikistan, Uzbekistan), and the Caribbeans since those are the most underrated regions TAR has barely scratched surface on.

For now, if these route creators want to keep on making generic tasks, just stick to revisiting past countries. I don't want them to ruin a visit to a new country. For example, the one of Azerbaijan in TAR20 minus the FF drama.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2014, 06:31:15 PM »
None of the Central Asian countries are 'relatively safe', most are controlled by dictators etc, and I believe there are travel restrictions there.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2014, 06:54:55 PM »
TAR needs to visit the former Yugoslavia again, but with more creative tasks rather than traditional dances/stereotypical thoughts. Last night's episode in Seville ruined mainland Spain for me. :res:

I'd also suggest to TAR to design out-of-this-world routes for Central America, a relatively safe "-stan" country (like Tajikistan, Uzbekistan), and the Caribbeans since those are the most underrated regions TAR has barely scratched surface on.

For now, if these route creators want to keep on making generic tasks, just stick to revisiting past countries. I don't want them to ruin a visit to a new country. For example, the one of Azerbaijan in TAR20 minus the FF drama.

Actually Tunisia.  But they are only getting around to their first "regular" post=Ghaddafi era elections now, so they're not settled down yet.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2014, 07:22:00 PM »
Actually Tunisia.  But they are only getting around to their first "regular" post=Ghaddafi era elections now, so they're not settled down yet.

Oh true, I forgot their visit :lol:


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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2014, 11:09:41 PM »
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2014, 11:30:21 PM »
Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Luxeumbourg, Gibraltar, Latvia. Those are some of the countries I'd like to see.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2014, 12:21:54 AM »
As long as they visit new places or new things to do. For example, they have been to Amsterdam at least 5 to 6 times but never once visited the Tulip Fields, the night activities areas OR even visited the outskirt cities much. -_-

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2014, 12:23:43 AM »
As long as they visit new places or new things to do. For example, they have been to Amsterdam at least 5 to 6 times but never once visited the Tulip Fields, the night activities areas OR even visited the outskirt cities much. -_-

Yeah I mean they haven't been to Wellington in NZ, Haven't been to Stewart Island, the Milford sound and surprisingly they haven't been to Hobbiton.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2014, 05:59:28 AM »
In a lot of ways, my mind is based on numbers and patterns. And so, even if a race visits a whole slew of new cities and regions, a part of me feels disappointed if there's not at least one new country.

I LOVED TAR21's route. It was great to see more of Dhaka, I really really loved seeing Majorca, and the back-country of France was great to see. But on some level it's always disappointed me because it was the first American TAR season to not visit a single new country.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2014, 07:52:54 AM »
I agree with Jobby and SamaulDude. It isn't a matter of new countries but a matter of new locations.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2014, 09:24:34 AM »
Loved it. Sri Lanka revisited this season after a long civil war ended a couple of years ago, Indonesia finally visited in TAR19 after a travel warning-free zone due to major terrorist attacks in the 2000s.

In a surprise, Paris never have had a full leg in American TAR, but it was seen wholly in TAR Israel 3.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2014, 11:52:18 AM »
Indeed! Paris!

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2014, 12:05:48 PM »
Sure.
Andorra. They can do an all leg in Andorra, or for example: Spain - Andorra - France, because is a little country.
Laos. Is so beautiful. They can replace some Thailand legs for Laos. xD
I'm thinking about Latvia, Belarus, Moldova... but with the Ukraine-Russia problem... Maybe it's not the safest place.
I'm sure some African countries can being a cool destination. The same with "Oceanic islands" (Fiji, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea...)
And finally, Honduras, Nicaragua... they are nice places to go.

I agree there are so many Countries left, they can go to!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2014, 12:06:44 PM »
They can just do a race alone on all the Survivor places they went to and not visited for TAR.. #justsaying


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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2014, 11:38:51 PM »
They can just do a race alone on all the Survivor places they went to and not visited for TAR.. #justsaying
Two problems, some of the countries have already been visited by TAR like Brazil, Kenya, China, Philippines, Australia, and just this season Malaysian Borneo. Plus, there will be too many limited flights in and out of a country that TAR will just constantly provide plane tickets to teams like what they did for TAR17's flight out of Accra to Kiruna, Sweden.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2014, 11:27:15 PM »
Not to be rude but when I talk about TAR US... can people stop bringing in other seasons for discussion? :funny:

Providing plane tickets is perfectly fine for me, as long as you give me a new remote location with zomgamazing tasks and views like Survivor did!

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2014, 02:23:18 PM »
Perhaps TAR US should adopt the practice used in TAR Latin America? But only partially?

If, and ONLY if, there is a situation where everyone must be given tickets on the same flight, then treat it like a Pit Stop and have everyone write down their arrival times, to be released from the destination's airport in the same order.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2014, 03:27:15 PM »
Perhaps TAR US should adopt the practice used in TAR Latin America? But only partially?

If, and ONLY if, there is a situation where everyone must be given tickets on the same flight, then treat it like a Pit Stop and have everyone write down their arrival times, to be released from the destination's airport in the same order.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2014, 04:05:44 PM »
THIS ^^^

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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2014, 04:17:44 PM »
THIS ^^^

(Personally, if I had the chance I'd burn that board.)

Sorry this is a bit off-topic... the moment that always makes me hate that thing is watching Aleandra&Marlene waiting inside the airport to start the leg while Carlos&Mauricio are trying to get a new passport to replace the lost one... that stupid TARLA rule... Hopefully this is gone now...

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2014, 04:46:08 PM »
I think there are some countries that are unvisited and safe to be visited: (Only apply for US Version)

Europe
Andorra (Combined with leg in Spain and/or France)
Bulgaria
Cyprus
Former Yugoslavia Countries (Eg. Slovenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Macedonia, Montenegro)
Latvia
Luxembourg
Malta (Will be visited in TAR25  :conf:)
Monaco (Combined with leg in France)
San Marino/ Vatican City (Combined with leg in Italy)
Slovakia

Asia
Bahrain
Qatar
Nepal
Bhutan
Myanmar
Laos
East Timor
Maldives

Africa ??? (Highly doubt with the visit due to unknown safety reason)
Comoros??? 
Eritrea???
Djibouti???
Zimbabwe???
Mayotte or Reunion (part of France)

Oceanic
Samoa
Fiji
whatever island in ocenia has not been visited

Americas & Caribbean
Honduras
Nicaragua
Dominican Republic
Barbados
Trinidad & Tobago
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2014, 10:04:47 AM »
And what about Belize, the Bahamas, Suriname, Guyana and French Guiana?

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 12:49:21 PM »
And Slovakia!
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 03:20:00 PM »
Suriname , Guyana and French Guyana are pretty much restrict countries. I really don't know why , because i think they don't have any militar troubles.
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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2014, 04:10:50 PM »
And Slovakia!

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2014, 04:24:06 PM »
Is Belarus can be considered as well?  ???
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2014, 05:59:30 PM »
Use this map to see if countries are considered "dangerous":
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/travel-warnings/
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2014, 10:18:20 PM »
Suriname , Guyana and French Guyana are pretty much restrict countries. I really don't know why , because i think they don't have any militar troubles.
Suriname and the Guyanas have limited flights in and out of their respective int'l airport hubs. I think TAR won't be going to the three territories anytime soon simply because they don't want to run into any travel complications.
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2014, 08:20:17 AM »
Use this map to see if countries are considered "dangerous":
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/travel-warnings/

This is why some countries such as Chile & Argentina are overused.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2014, 08:52:16 AM »
ummmmm we could go to cuba

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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2014, 09:37:37 AM »
I really don't mind reusing countries again and again as long as they continue to dish out tasks culturally related to a country each time they visit a place.

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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2014, 03:45:44 PM »
ummmmm we could go to cuba
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2014, 07:09:46 PM »
Israel? ??? Seems to be ridiculous and dangerous to go there because of long time Palestine issue.

But TAR Aus (and not mention TAR Israel which was the host country) has been visited there. IDK.
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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2014, 07:27:58 PM »
Israel? ??? Seems to be ridiculous and dangerous to go there because of long time Palestine issue.

But TAR Aus (and not mention TAR Israel which was the host country) has been visited there. IDK.
its too dangerous for USA to visit.
Plus its gotten a lot more dangerous since 2011.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2014, 04:58:46 PM »
If TAR is continuing to be this cheap about routes and tasks, why not travel into Luxembourg via train from Paris or Kyrgyzstan after a Leg in Ankara, Turkey?
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2014, 11:56:41 AM »
If TAR is continuing to be this cheap about routes and tasks, why not travel into Luxembourg via train from Paris or Kyrgyzstan after a Leg in Ankara, Turkey?

That's a good idea. Ever since most Turkey leg always visit Istanbul, it is very good potential to visit Turkey outside Istanbul especially on Ankara, the capital city of Turkey. If TAR continuing to safe budget, they can go to Kyrgyzstan, Georgia and Armenia either, but IDK whether the safety of these counties is allowed to have a visit without any issues. (TAR20 did go to Azerbaijan, which is neighbour to Georgia & Armenia.)  ???
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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2014, 05:08:56 PM »
I'd like to see two legs in Turkey, probably one leg in a historical site and one in Ankara.
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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2014, 07:10:54 PM »
I'd like to see two legs in Turkey, probably one leg in a historical site and one in Ankara.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2014, 08:24:33 PM »
What about Principality of Sealand? Maybe a challenge can be set there.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2014, 12:01:27 PM »
I go to turkey 3 times a year and I go to a place called Oludeniz which is home to a lot of paragliding and is one of the most beautiful places ever for paragliding I think Tar could go to here and then a leg in Ankara the airport in Dalaman flys to most of England and Germany also Amsterdam, Istanbul and Moscow / St. Petersburg

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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2014, 06:25:27 AM »
(TAR20 did go to Azerbaijan, which is neighbour to Georgia & Armenia.)  ???

The Azerbaijan government probably footed the bill for the entire leg including security. I read somewhere they spend loads on advertising their country.

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« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2014, 04:16:13 AM »
I'd like to see two legs in Turkey, probably one leg in a historical site and one in Ankara.

Well there is a historical site in Turkey that would be best suited for a visit from TARAus or TARNZ(If it ever gets made) which is Gallipoli.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2014, 06:51:30 AM »
(TAR20 did go to Azerbaijan, which is neighbour to Georgia & Armenia.)  ???

The Azerbaijan government probably footed the bill for the entire leg including security. I read somewhere they spend loads on advertising their country.


Spanish League recent champion, Atlético de Madrid, has been sponsored by Azerbaijan's government (ads) for the last 3 years or so. You also had to see how many things they did to have a modern city when the Eurovision Song Contest was held in Bakú. Nonetheless, there seems to be some powerful people who rule everything which makes people living there quite "miserable" with respect to those who hold petrol or whatever. It is just disappointing tbh :/

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2014, 09:54:32 AM »
OMG please visit Istanbul again. A night leg, if possible, running through the shopping streets packed with people (the lights will be gorgeous!), selling Simit or idk finding belly dancers etc. PLEASE.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2014, 11:21:00 AM »
Now that we've just about run out of countries to talk about... :)

Some new regions within countries we've already visited before!
- Hokkaido in Japan
- Crete in Greece
- Sulawesi in Indonesia
- Naples/Amalfi/Pompeii in Italy
- Nazca in Peru
- Nunavut in Canada
- Ephesus/Pamukkale/Cappadocia in Turkey
- The Amazon in Brazil
- Tibet in China (I know, altitude and travel restrictions may pose a problem)
- Monaco/Côte d'Azur in France
- Normandy/Mont-St-Michel in France

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2014, 11:30:10 AM »
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2014, 11:51:12 AM »
Now that we've just about run out of countries to talk about... :)

Some new regions within countries we've already visited before!
- Hokkaido in Japan
- Crete in Greece
- Sulawesi in Indonesia
- Naples/Amalfi/Pompeii in Italy
- Nazca in Peru
- Nunavut in Canada
- Ephesus/Pamukkale/Cappadocia in Turkey
- The Amazon in Brazil
- Tibet in China (I know, altitude and travel restrictions may pose a problem)
- Monaco/Côte d'Azur in France
- Normandy/Mont-St-Michel in France

Add on for some places:
Jeju Island,any region other than Seoul & DMZ in South Korea
Xinjiang Uyghur in China
Hainan Island in China
Sumatera in North Indonesia
Kalimantan and Sarawak in Borneo Island of Indonesia & Malaysia respectively.
Baltimore in India
Arctic Circle region in Finland
Any region other than Moscow & St. Petersburg in Russia
Lviv in Ukarine
Territories Island (Eg. Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Christmas Island, Cook Islands, Nieu, Tokelau) in Australia and New Zealand
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2014, 03:10:53 PM »
^^^More suggestions:
- Almost everywhere in the Philippines
- Ryuku Islands, Japan
- Guadalajara/Oaxaca/Acapulco, Mexico
- Capri, Italy
- Faroe Islands, Denmark
- Granada, Spain
- Svalbard, Norway
- Pushkar/Ajmer/Kottayam, India
- Harbin/Chengdu/Wuhan, China
- Al Khasab, Oman
- Wellington, New Zealand

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #55 on: November 05, 2014, 11:33:39 PM »
South Brazil with another visit to Foz do Iguaçu would be super nice! Also , more of the uruguayan and paraguayan coutryside.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2014, 11:35:01 PM »
This was supposed to go to the "run out of countries" thread but my phone went crazy LOL
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2014, 12:04:16 AM »
Tbh it would be cool if they do a leg in Indonesia, fly to Batam, then travel by ferry to Indonesia. Or do a leg in Singapore, then take a ferry to Bintan or Batam, have some ARI then fly to some major cities in Indonesia

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2014, 04:39:50 AM »
Now that we've just about run out of countries to talk about... :)

Some new regions within countries we've already visited before!
- Hokkaido in Japan
- Crete in Greece
- Sulawesi in Indonesia
- Naples/Amalfi/Pompeii in Italy
- Nazca in Peru
- Nunavut in Canada
- Ephesus/Pamukkale/Cappadocia in Turkey
- The Amazon in Brazil
- Tibet in China (I know, altitude and travel restrictions may pose a problem)
- Monaco/Côte d'Azur in France
- Normandy/Mont-St-Michel in France

Add on for some places:
Jeju Island,any region other than Seoul & DMZ in South Korea
Xinjiang Uyghur in China
Hainan Island in China
Sumatera in North Indonesia
Kalimantan and Sarawak in Borneo Island of Indonesia & Malaysia respectively.
Baltimore in India
Arctic Circle region in Finland
Any region other than Moscow & St. Petersburg in Russia
Lviv in Ukarine
Territories Island (Eg. Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Christmas Island, Cook Islands, Nieu, Tokelau) in Australia and New Zealand

Xinjiang is extremely dangerous since 2009. Besides, even though Hainan has rich tourism resources, the awful development there ruined its reputation. If TAR wants to go to China again, Chengdu and Chongqing are the best choices.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2014, 08:56:11 AM »
Now that we've just about run out of countries to talk about... :)

Some new regions within countries we've already visited before!
- Hokkaido in Japan
- Crete in Greece
- Sulawesi in Indonesia
- Naples/Amalfi/Pompeii in Italy
- Nazca in Peru
- Nunavut in Canada
- Ephesus/Pamukkale/Cappadocia in Turkey
- The Amazon in Brazil
- Tibet in China (I know, altitude and travel restrictions may pose a problem)
- Monaco/Côte d'Azur in France
- Normandy/Mont-St-Michel in France

Add on for some places:
Jeju Island,any region other than Seoul & DMZ in South Korea
Xinjiang Uyghur in China
Hainan Island in China
Sumatera in North Indonesia
Kalimantan and Sarawak in Borneo Island of Indonesia & Malaysia respectively.
Baltimore in India
Arctic Circle region in Finland
Any region other than Moscow & St. Petersburg in Russia
Lviv in Ukarine
Territories Island (Eg. Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Christmas Island, Cook Islands, Nieu, Tokelau) in Australia and New Zealand

Xinjiang is extremely dangerous since 2009. Besides, even though Hainan has rich tourism resources, the awful development there ruined its reputation. If TAR wants to go to China again, Chengdu and Chongqing are the best choices.

I agree that Chengdu and Chongqing would be good choices (see China Rush 1), but Hainan is also a decent place to visit. The World's Strongest Man Championship held in Hainan once.

Xinjiang is not dangerous in my view because the controversy there is not towards foreigners. But places like Tibet and Amazon... I think they're for the show like Expedition Impossible, not for TAR. :)

 
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2014, 09:01:05 AM »
Aah yes Chengdu! 25 seasons and we haven't seen pandas on the show?!

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2014, 02:04:42 AM »
Now that we've just about run out of countries to talk about... :)

Some new regions within countries we've already visited before!
- Hokkaido in Japan
- Crete in Greece
- Sulawesi in Indonesia
- Naples/Amalfi/Pompeii in Italy
- Nazca in Peru
- Nunavut in Canada
- Ephesus/Pamukkale/Cappadocia in Turkey
- The Amazon in Brazil
- Tibet in China (I know, altitude and travel restrictions may pose a problem)
- Monaco/Côte d'Azur in France
- Normandy/Mont-St-Michel in France

Add on for some places:
Jeju Island,any region other than Seoul & DMZ in South Korea
Xinjiang Uyghur in China
Hainan Island in China
Sumatera in North Indonesia
Kalimantan and Sarawak in Borneo Island of Indonesia & Malaysia respectively.
Baltimore in India
Arctic Circle region in Finland
Any region other than Moscow & St. Petersburg in Russia
Lviv in Ukarine
Territories Island (Eg. Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Christmas Island, Cook Islands, Nieu, Tokelau) in Australia and New Zealand

Xinjiang is extremely dangerous since 2009. Besides, even though Hainan has rich tourism resources, the awful development there ruined its reputation. If TAR wants to go to China again, Chengdu and Chongqing are the best choices.

I agree that Chengdu and Chongqing would be good choices (see China Rush 1), but Hainan is also a decent place to visit. The World's Strongest Man Championship held in Hainan once.

Xinjiang is not dangerous in my view because the controversy there is not towards foreigners. But places like Tibet and Amazon... I think they're for the show like Expedition Impossible, not for TAR. :)

The mess in Hainan's tourism hit all the headline of Chinese medias several months ago. But the scenery is gorgeous.

But there're huge travelling difficulties in Xinjiang. If TAR doesn't want to restrict the race course only in Urumqi, the racers have to travel at least 6-9 hours to another meaningful destination. Driving themselves is impossible, and weather conditions are frequently changing. Temperature will be below 0℃ in December.


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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2014, 08:37:20 AM »
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2014, 08:53:15 AM »
Now that we've just about run out of countries to talk about... :)

Some new regions within countries we've already visited before!
- Hokkaido in Japan
- Crete in Greece
- Sulawesi in Indonesia
- Naples/Amalfi/Pompeii in Italy
- Nazca in Peru
- Nunavut in Canada
- Ephesus/Pamukkale/Cappadocia in Turkey
- The Amazon in Brazil
- Tibet in China (I know, altitude and travel restrictions may pose a problem)
- Monaco/Côte d'Azur in France
- Normandy/Mont-St-Michel in France

Add on for some places:
Jeju Island,any region other than Seoul & DMZ in South Korea
Xinjiang Uyghur in China
Hainan Island in China
Sumatera in North Indonesia
Kalimantan and Sarawak in Borneo Island of Indonesia & Malaysia respectively.
Baltimore in India
Arctic Circle region in Finland
Any region other than Moscow & St. Petersburg in Russia
Lviv in Ukarine
Territories Island (Eg. Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Christmas Island, Cook Islands, Nieu, Tokelau) in Australia and New Zealand

Xinjiang is extremely dangerous since 2009. Besides, even though Hainan has rich tourism resources, the awful development there ruined its reputation. If TAR wants to go to China again, Chengdu and Chongqing are the best choices.

I agree that Chengdu and Chongqing would be good choices (see China Rush 1), but Hainan is also a decent place to visit. The World's Strongest Man Championship held in Hainan once.

Xinjiang is not dangerous in my view because the controversy there is not towards foreigners. But places like Tibet and Amazon... I think they're for the show like Expedition Impossible, not for TAR. :)

The mess in Hainan's tourism hit all the headline of Chinese medias several months ago. But the scenery is gorgeous.

But there're huge travelling difficulties in Xinjiang. If TAR doesn't want to restrict the race course only in Urumqi, the racers have to travel at least 6-9 hours to another meaningful destination. Driving themselves is impossible, and weather conditions are frequently changing. Temperature will be below 0℃ in December.

Yeah, those are problems. So just visit one city in Xinjiang in summer ;)

Plus, is it a good idea to travel 2 cities by plane in one leg? (I suddenly realize that the Australian edition did this before...)
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2014, 10:27:24 AM »
Now that we've just about run out of countries to talk about... :)

Some new regions within countries we've already visited before!
- Hokkaido in Japan
- Crete in Greece
- Sulawesi in Indonesia
- Naples/Amalfi/Pompeii in Italy
- Nazca in Peru
- Nunavut in Canada
- Ephesus/Pamukkale/Cappadocia in Turkey
- The Amazon in Brazil
- Tibet in China (I know, altitude and travel restrictions may pose a problem)
- Monaco/Côte d'Azur in France
- Normandy/Mont-St-Michel in France

Add on for some places:
Jeju Island,any region other than Seoul & DMZ in South Korea
Xinjiang Uyghur in China
Hainan Island in China
Sumatera in North Indonesia
Kalimantan and Sarawak in Borneo Island of Indonesia & Malaysia respectively.
Baltimore in India
Arctic Circle region in Finland
Any region other than Moscow & St. Petersburg in Russia
Lviv in Ukarine
Territories Island (Eg. Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Christmas Island, Cook Islands, Nieu, Tokelau) in Australia and New Zealand

Xinjiang is extremely dangerous since 2009. Besides, even though Hainan has rich tourism resources, the awful development there ruined its reputation. If TAR wants to go to China again, Chengdu and Chongqing are the best choices.

I agree that Chengdu and Chongqing would be good choices (see China Rush 1), but Hainan is also a decent place to visit. The World's Strongest Man Championship held in Hainan once.

Xinjiang is not dangerous in my view because the controversy there is not towards foreigners. But places like Tibet and Amazon... I think they're for the show like Expedition Impossible, not for TAR. :)

The mess in Hainan's tourism hit all the headline of Chinese medias several months ago. But the scenery is gorgeous.

But there're huge travelling difficulties in Xinjiang. If TAR doesn't want to restrict the race course only in Urumqi, the racers have to travel at least 6-9 hours to another meaningful destination. Driving themselves is impossible, and weather conditions are frequently changing. Temperature will be below 0℃ in December.

Yeah, those are problems. So just visit one city in Xinjiang in summer ;)

Plus, is it a good idea to travel 2 cities by plane in one leg? (I suddenly realize that the Australian edition did this before...)

Maybe one leg in Xinjiang, and fly to Chengdu for next leg.  Flight from Urumqi just take 3.5 hours.
But if the 2nd Leg includes Chongqing, I'm 100% sure that all teams will have a miserable day in navigating.  :funny:

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2014, 09:07:22 PM »
If you go to the LIVE SPOILERS thread of TAR26 , you can see the list of countries and airlines forbidden by the production of TAR.
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« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2014, 09:15:10 PM »
If you go to the LIVE SPOILERS thread of TAR26 , you can see the list of countries and airlines forbidden by the production of TAR.
That list doesn't neccesarily mean that those places are no-gos for TAR. Like peach said there is a lot of red tape required with bringing cameras in airports and other stuff; production may not want to do that paperwork on the off chance someone makes a stopover in Timor-Leste.  Laos is on that list and it was supposed to be visited in season 19; mainland China is on the list and was visited several times.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #67 on: November 28, 2014, 04:59:30 AM »
Any chance that they will visit Belize? It was supposed to be featured in TAR8, but a hurricane forced them to cancel the plan.

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« Reply #68 on: November 28, 2014, 09:08:10 AM »
Any chance that they will visit Belize? It was supposed to be featured in TAR8, but a hurricane forced them to cancel the plan.
IIRC, there's a problem about homosexuals in that country.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2014, 09:53:12 AM »
what about Colombia?  I'm guessing that country will be feature on upcoming TAR 26 right after 2 Australian legs and before Europe leg but that country is unsafe for the tourist because of drugs and high crime rates.  :iok

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2014, 08:22:42 PM »
What about Zimbabwe or Swaziland? Both countries are in Southern part of Africa, neighbouring with South Africa. I'm not sure about the safety is allowed for TAR filming in the above countries.  :iok
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #71 on: July 11, 2015, 05:02:04 AM »
Anyone know why Burma/Laos/Brunei still got zero visit? It's relatively safe country with some touristy place. (Shwedagon Pagoda in Yangon,Burma / Laung Prabang in Laos / All beautiful palaces and Kampong Ayer as Eastern Venice in Brunei) It could provide some great legs instead of going back and forth to Thailand & Indonesia.

Brunei can be access easily from other SE Asia country or Australia. Both Laos and Burma can be access via Bangkok with lots of flight. So why are these 3 countries didn't get the chance to show their potential yet is still a big question mark to me? ???

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2015, 07:11:57 AM »
Burma has civil war going on in the northern parts of country. It has been reported that Muslim tribes living in the area are suffering even a genocide. However very few tourists visit this area as the entrance is only by special permission.

Eventhough tourism is growing fast and Burma is opening up to the world it still has many problems for race purposes. The country is constantly in politically unstable, big protests can start at any moment and they can lead even to an armed conflict. This is also reason why foreign tv shows have really strict rules for filming. I'm not sure if it's even allowed yet at all.
Burma is also still not totally open for rest of the world. For example they huge lack of ATMs, internet connections are very bad and restricted. Infrastructure is also lacking behind.  :umn:

So, no Burma for long time. Laos and Brunei, why not?
Btw, they still have 18 countries in Europe waiting for visit so race is not going to run out of countries anytime soon   ;)

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #73 on: July 11, 2015, 08:14:31 AM »
In the Spanish TV reality "Pekín Express", they went to Burma, and it's completely safe and beautiful. They didn't had any problem.

In another season of the same reality, they went to Laos, and I can say the same. 100% safe, wonderful, and zero problems, so... I think they can go to both countries.

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2015, 01:55:19 PM »
^Ok, interesting to know! Last time I watched tv show from Burma it was filmed secretly #im_old

But Pekin Express and foreign TAR versions seem to be anyway much more open-minded in their destinations (Burma, Israel, Bosnia, Cuba) which I would like to see more in US version!

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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #75 on: July 11, 2015, 02:16:58 PM »
^Ok, interesting to know! Last time I watched tv show from Burma it was filmed secretly #im_old

But Pekin Express and foreign TAR versions seem to be anyway much more open-minded in their destinations (Burma, Israel, Bosnia, Cuba) which I would like to see more in US version!

Also Venezuela and Curacao on TAR Latin America, Georgia (the country, not the state) on the last TAR Israel.

A lot of that has to do with other nationalities being more welcome in those countries than Americans, not necessarily that they don't want to go there.

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« Reply #76 on: July 11, 2015, 02:55:23 PM »
Georgia was my favourite country that hasn't been visited by TAR US. It was absolutely amazing!!
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #77 on: July 11, 2015, 02:56:45 PM »
Venezuela and Colombia! We need visits.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #78 on: July 11, 2015, 03:39:20 PM »
Someone (Peach ???) told me that it would be rather impossible for the US version of TAR to visit Venezuela. :(

I'd love to see Latvia! I have been to Riga (the capital) several times and it is pretty reminiscent of Lithuania (the language as well), so to me it would basically feel like another visit to Lithuania :grins:

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« Reply #79 on: July 12, 2015, 03:07:38 PM »
Actually, I'm curious now. What are some countries that have not been visited on (any) TAR, but had an airport connection? I know Latvia is one of them, when they flew from Estonia to Prague I think. Also, didn't some teams in TAR5 connect through Bahrain? Tara & Wil in Season 2 were going to connect through Tonga but ultimately didn't.
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Re: Run out of countries?
« Reply #80 on: July 12, 2015, 03:10:47 PM »
Actually, I'm curious now. What are some countries that have not been visited on (any) TAR, but had an airport connection? I know Latvia is one of them, when they flew from Estonia to Prague I think. Also, didn't some teams in TAR5 connect through Bahrain? Tara & Wil in Season 2 were going to connect through Tonga but ultimately didn't.

In Tar 9 on flights from Athens to Muscat teams connected through Manama & Doha

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« Reply #81 on: July 12, 2015, 03:14:57 PM »
Also, didn't some teams in TAR5 connect through Bahrain?
Yeah, it was the Egypt > Kenya > Tanzania leg.
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