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« Reply #150 on: June 19, 2014, 04:29:39 PM »
10 countries and 6 continents? Woo! I'm over the moon that we finally after nearly 10 years get a long route like this again!
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« Reply #151 on: June 19, 2014, 04:31:36 PM »
Was there some action in Laos after Cambodia?


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Re: TAR Australia 3 SPECULATION and DISCUSSION of Spoilers
« Reply #152 on: June 19, 2014, 07:57:19 PM »
So, we have 10 countries and 6 continents:

Australia
NZ
Cambodia
Thailand
Namibia
Russia
Portugal
US
Argentina

So we're missing one country :S

Are we sure we had a visit to the US? Idk if that was confirmed or not (and it's not listed in Oval's timeline). We do know that with 6 continents, somewhere in North America has to be visited, and US could be very likely.

Also, Idk if the spoiler caps mean that we have to have a visit to those countries, but they do have the Statue of Liberty and Christ the Redeemer Statue, so that would lead to maybe having Brazil being the missing country from that list.

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« Reply #153 on: June 19, 2014, 07:59:40 PM »
I don't know but in another preview, they had something look like Shibuya crossing in Japan, too. So...

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Re: TAR Australia 3 SPECULATION and DISCUSSION of Spoilers
« Reply #154 on: June 19, 2014, 08:04:47 PM »
And there's always a chance that they have traveled for a leg to Chile and then returning home instead of flying from Argentina.
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« Reply #155 on: June 19, 2014, 08:36:25 PM »
So, we have 10 countries and 6 continents:

Australia
NZ
Cambodia
Thailand
Namibia
Russia
Portugal
US
Argentina

So we're missing one country :S

Are we sure we had a visit to the US? Idk if that was confirmed or not (and it's not listed in Oval's timeline). We do know that with 6 continents, somewhere in North America has to be visited, and US could be very likely.

Also, Idk if the spoiler caps mean that we have to have a visit to those countries, but they do have the Statue of Liberty and Christ the Redeemer Statue, so that would lead to maybe having Brazil being the missing country from that list.

I thought Vegas was a leg :S

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« Reply #156 on: June 19, 2014, 11:23:30 PM »
You can spec NZ all you want but there's no actual proof of NZ being visited at all... I still consider what happens between Argentina and Australia as unknown.

Also re Thailand, I don't think we can assume the leg was run on the 13th just because the picture was posted then. Is there enough time to travel from Thailand to Namibia, run a leg and then have teams purchasing tickets in Windhoek airport by the 15th? I was starting to think that the photo was uploaded a day or more later, I can't see how they make it to Windhoek and run a leg there in time otherwise.

I do think that our airport sighting is them purchasing tickets straight to Russia.. I had a look at flights and the Windhoek -> Frankfurt flight via Air Namibia seems a viable option to get them to Europe and onto Russia... but it would help if some flight guru could do a much better analysis.

This is how I think it pans out, based on our sightings:

Mar 9: Start at Uluru; fly via Sydney and HCMC to Siem Reap and complete night market tasks
Mar 10: Angkor Wat sightings + PitStop
Mar 11: Leg rest/travel to Thailand
Mar 12: Run leg in Thailand -- assuming delayed uploaded photo on the 13th
Mar 13: Fly to Namibia
Mar 14: Run leg in Namibia
Mar 15: Windhoek Airport sighting -- purchase tickets and fly to presumably Russia?
Mar 16: Unknown --possibly a Russia I leg?
Mar 17: Run Saint Petersburg leg
Mar 18: Unknown
Mar 19: Unknown
Mar 20: Run Lisbon leg
Mar 21: Unknown
Mar 22: Unknown
Mar 23: Unknown
Mar 24: Unknown
Mar 25: Unknown
Mar 26: Run Buenos Aires leg
Mar 27: Unknown
Mar 28: Unknown
Mar 29: Unknown
Mar 30: Run final leg in Victoria

Things I want to know/note:
1. Why is there only two days between Saint Petersburg and Lisbon -- does this suggest a leg in close proximity to Lisbon (Spain anyone?)
2. Where do we think they went between Lisbon and Argentina? Is a NA stop possible? I was thinking Brazil was the most logical place, but where else could they have gone?
3. We lose a day for the int'l date line towards the end of the race, so if there's a leg between Buenos Aires and Victoria it can't have a day dedicated to travel -- the entire leg would need to be run the day before the finale or the day after the BA leg.

I'm pulling this from Oval to use as a time guage, because it's easy to use while trying to spec the route.

After talking with Oval a bit, IIRC he thinks that there is a stop at NZ before Cambodia after the Starting Line, and also thinks the Starting Line is earlier than we thought. Oval, correct me if I am wrong

Here is what we know, we have 8 countries confirmed, all but US on MrDS's list, that leaves us with 2 more countries. One MUST be in North America (maybe the US) and that leaves us with one more to work with. The issue with routing this is we have to make up ALMOST 90,000 km. (I'm getting all of this info from the media thread) After trying to map it out, that is very difficult to achieve (Unless the media people are lying, we don't know :lol:).

But here is what I think it is. What I find strange in the 4 day gap between Buenos Aires and Australia. It seems too much for Buenos Aires to be a penulitmate leg, but it's had with the international dateline. Before we were thinking NZ, but there is now a chance with NZ as leg 1, that throws that out possibly. There could be a leg after Buenos Aires in Argentina, but I think there might be an alternate solution (although I could be way off :lol:)

I propose that before the final leg after Argentina, there is a visit in the Middle East close to Dubai (it could be UAE, maybe Qatar?) Teams would not cross the Pacific, and it works well in racking up miles going all the way back eastward. This conjecture also has flight evidence to back it up.

There are some flights going from Buenos Aires to Sao Paulo on the night of March 26th

JJ8011 EZE-GRU 1910-2150 (Actually 1930-2207)
AR1248 AEP-GRU 1925-2210 (Actually 1916-2214)
JJ8015 AEP-GRU 2210-0050+1 (Actually 2249-0122+1)
AU2276 EZE-GRU 2210-0055+1 (Actually 2207-0046+1)
G3 7685 AEP-GRU 2240-0135+1 (Actually 2235-0057+1)
QR772 EZE-GRU 2320-0200+1 (Actually 0201+1-0422+1)
TK16 EZE-GRU 2355-0245+1 (Actually 0147+1-0411+1)

Then from Sao Paulo, there is a flight leaving the night of the 26th to Dubai and one in the early morning of the 27th to Istanbul and Doha!

EK8262 GRU-DXB 2325-2100+1 (Actually 2329-2015+1)
QR722 GRU-DOH 0315-2045 (Actually 0539-0047+1)
TK16 GRU-IST 0415-2145 (Actually 0518-2230)

And all these land in the late night of the 27th or early morning! This leaves plenty of time to get somewhere that has easy access to Dubai (or maybe even UAE itself) maybe Doha to run a leg on the 28th.

(I know there are flights from both Istanbul and Dubai to Doha and I don't have time to look them up)

Then, teams can also easily make it to Melbourne/Victoria by the 30th in time to run the final leg because of these leaving the 29th and with plenty of options to get to Dubai

EK406 DXB-MEL 1010-0635+1 (Actually 1132-0753+1)
QF10 DXB-MEL 1055-0735+1 (Actually 1058-0745)

As well as this leaving on the 29th arriving on the 29th from Doha to Melbourne for Grant and production crew

QR904 DOH-MEL 0055-1025 (Actually 0109-1055)

~~~~~

So after all of this flight analysis, I have an idea that there may be a missing leg in between Buenos Aires and Melbourne, in the Middle East, very likely to be Doha, Qatar or Dubai, UAE, this gives us our 10th country, as well as getting close to 90,000 km. I cannot figure out any other way to meet these criteria any other way with the timeframe we have (but this could be totally wrong idk)

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Re: TAR Australia 3 SPECULATION and DISCUSSION of Spoilers
« Reply #157 on: June 20, 2014, 01:10:13 AM »
So, we have 10 countries and 6 continents:

Australia
NZ
Cambodia
Thailand
Namibia
Russia
Portugal
US
Argentina

So we're missing one country :S

Are we sure we had a visit to the US? Idk if that was confirmed or not (and it's not listed in Oval's timeline). We do know that with 6 continents, somewhere in North America has to be visited, and US could be very likely.

Also, Idk if the spoiler caps mean that we have to have a visit to those countries, but they do have the Statue of Liberty and Christ the Redeemer Statue, so that would lead to maybe having Brazil being the missing country from that list.
Christ the Redeemer, the Statue of Liberty and Shibuya Crossing are stock shots from the opening of the show.

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« Reply #158 on: June 20, 2014, 06:56:50 AM »
This is air-date information ( I don't know if it belongs here but whatever )

I think we have an air-date (for NZ). I cheeked Wikipedia and it says that it starts on the 15th of July. It is sourced to a spreadsheet of TVNZ's programming. With this we can assume that the Australian air-date is the 14th.

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« Reply #159 on: June 20, 2014, 04:02:26 PM »
This is air-date information ( I don't know if it belongs here but whatever )

I think we have an air-date (for NZ). I cheeked Wikipedia and it says that it starts on the 15th of July. It is sourced to a spreadsheet of TVNZ's programming. With this we can assume that the Australian air-date is the 14th.

I was about to post it last night :P I had flicked it off to Peach before I posted anything
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« Reply #160 on: June 20, 2014, 06:55:45 PM »
This is air-date information ( I don't know if it belongs here but whatever )

I think we have an air-date (for NZ). I cheeked Wikipedia and it says that it starts on the 15th of July. It is sourced to a spreadsheet of TVNZ's programming. With this we can assume that the Australian air-date is the 14th.

I was about to post it last night :P I had flicked it off to Peach before I posted anything
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« Reply #161 on: June 20, 2014, 10:22:45 PM »
I'd imagine Aussie may get it the day before us.
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« Reply #166 on: July 08, 2014, 04:43:22 AM »
I'm pulling this from Oval to use as a time guage, because it's easy to use while trying to spec the route.

After talking with Oval a bit, IIRC he thinks that there is a stop at NZ before Cambodia after the Starting Line, and also thinks the Starting Line is earlier than we thought. Oval, correct me if I am wrong

Here is what we know, we have 8 countries confirmed, all but US on MrDS's list, that leaves us with 2 more countries. One MUST be in North America (maybe the US) and that leaves us with one more to work with. The issue with routing this is we have to make up ALMOST 90,000 km. (I'm getting all of this info from the media thread) After trying to map it out, that is very difficult to achieve (Unless the media people are lying, we don't know :lol:).

But here is what I think it is. What I find strange in the 4 day gap between Buenos Aires and Australia. It seems too much for Buenos Aires to be a penulitmate leg, but it's had with the international dateline. Before we were thinking NZ, but there is now a chance with NZ as leg 1, that throws that out possibly. There could be a leg after Buenos Aires in Argentina, but I think there might be an alternate solution (although I could be way off :lol:)

I propose that before the final leg after Argentina, there is a visit in the Middle East close to Dubai (it could be UAE, maybe Qatar?) Teams would not cross the Pacific, and it works well in racking up miles going all the way back eastward. This conjecture also has flight evidence to back it up.

There are some flights going from Buenos Aires to Sao Paulo on the night of March 26th

JJ8011 EZE-GRU 1910-2150 (Actually 1930-2207)
AR1248 AEP-GRU 1925-2210 (Actually 1916-2214)
JJ8015 AEP-GRU 2210-0050+1 (Actually 2249-0122+1)
AU2276 EZE-GRU 2210-0055+1 (Actually 2207-0046+1)
G3 7685 AEP-GRU 2240-0135+1 (Actually 2235-0057+1)
QR772 EZE-GRU 2320-0200+1 (Actually 0201+1-0422+1)
TK16 EZE-GRU 2355-0245+1 (Actually 0147+1-0411+1)

Then from Sao Paulo, there is a flight leaving the night of the 26th to Dubai and one in the early morning of the 27th to Istanbul and Doha!

EK8262 GRU-DXB 2325-2100+1 (Actually 2329-2015+1)
QR722 GRU-DOH 0315-2045 (Actually 0539-0047+1)
TK16 GRU-IST 0415-2145 (Actually 0518-2230)

And all these land in the late night of the 27th or early morning! This leaves plenty of time to get somewhere that has easy access to Dubai (or maybe even UAE itself) maybe Doha to run a leg on the 28th.

(I know there are flights from both Istanbul and Dubai to Doha and I don't have time to look them up)

Then, teams can also easily make it to Melbourne/Victoria by the 30th in time to run the final leg because of these leaving the 29th and with plenty of options to get to Dubai

EK406 DXB-MEL 1010-0635+1 (Actually 1132-0753+1)
QF10 DXB-MEL 1055-0735+1 (Actually 1058-0745)

As well as this leaving on the 29th arriving on the 29th from Doha to Melbourne for Grant and production crew

QR904 DOH-MEL 0055-1025 (Actually 0109-1055)

~~~~~

So after all of this flight analysis, I have an idea that there may be a missing leg in between Buenos Aires and Melbourne, in the Middle East, very likely to be Doha, Qatar or Dubai, UAE, this gives us our 10th country, as well as getting close to 90,000 km. I cannot figure out any other way to meet these criteria any other way with the timeframe we have (but this could be totally wrong idk)

It's really impossible, back in live sightings thread posted in March, since Argentina is truly a penultimate leg before teams returning to Australia, a trans-Pacific final leg from Argentina to Australia is approximately nearly 9,000 miles. The gap between these countries are 4 days with an extended final Pit Stop rest.

Flights to Melbourne

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=eze-scl-akl-mel

Grant and production crew (03/27-03/29; Note: they lose one day due to International Date Line)
LAN Airlines (LA) 532, EZE-SCL, 1755-2008 (scheduled 1740-2000)
LAN Airlines 801, SCL-AKL, 2318-0356+2 (scheduled 2320-0430+2)
Virgin New Zealand (PBI) 165, AKL-MEL, 0630+2-0826+2 (scheduled 0630+2-0840+2)


Then, Grant and crew made sets for the final leg in Port Campbell.

The final three teams (03/28-03/30; the scheduled times in both LAN flights are same as above)
LAN Airlines 532, EZE-SCL, 1805-2025
LAN Airlines 801, SCL-AKL, 2344-0414+2
Virgin New Zealand 149, AKL-MEL, 0630+2-0826+2 (scheduled 0630+2-0845+2)


ETA: Legs 3 and 4 of TAR13 were the longest gap (4 days) per flights and extended Pit Stop rest.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2014, 07:34:04 AM by claude_24hrs »

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« Reply #167 on: July 15, 2014, 07:53:33 AM »
I've read it somewhere that New Zealand is gonna air the premiere on Jul 29 whilst Australia on Jul 22.

Could New Zealanders watch Australian TV? If so, it may not be good for TV2's ratings.
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« Reply #168 on: July 15, 2014, 08:04:04 AM »
I've read it somewhere that New Zealand is gonna air the premiere on Jul 29 whilst Australia on Jul 22.

Could New Zealanders watch Australian TV? If so, it may not be good for TV2's ratings.
I don't think so.

Can we get a link to this source.

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Re: TAR Australia 3 SPECULATION and DISCUSSION of Spoilers
« Reply #169 on: July 15, 2014, 08:24:20 AM »
I've read it somewhere that New Zealand is gonna air the premiere on Jul 29 whilst Australia on Jul 22.

Could New Zealanders watch Australian TV? If so, it may not be good for TV2's ratings.
I don't think so.

Can we get a link to this source.

Here you go:
http://images.tvnz.co.nz/planit-data/Peak_OffPeak_15_07_14.pdf

And BTW, Marked for Elimination is no more and will be replaced with Speed Bump. Express Pass will be returned, as well as Salvage Pass.
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« Reply #170 on: July 15, 2014, 01:42:54 PM »

And BTW, Marked for Elimination is no more and will be replaced with Speed Bump. Express Pass will be returned, as well as Salvage Pass.

Source, please?
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« Reply #171 on: July 15, 2014, 06:27:58 PM »

And BTW, Marked for Elimination is no more and will be replaced with Speed Bump. Express Pass will be returned, as well as Salvage Pass.

Source, please?
I believe that is what it said on 7's press kit which I can not kind any more.

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« Reply #172 on: July 16, 2014, 06:50:39 AM »

And BTW, Marked for Elimination is no more and will be replaced with Speed Bump. Express Pass will be returned, as well as Salvage Pass.

Source, please?
I believe that is what it said on 7's press kit which I can not kind any more.

It is indeed - http://sevenwestmedia.com.au/docs/default-source/business-unit-news/the-amazing-race-australia-v-new-zealand.pdf?sfvrsn=2

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« Reply #173 on: July 16, 2014, 07:45:13 PM »
I dislike the twist Salvage Pass. The two-hour privilege makes no sense because it'll be gone due to flights. Every team wants to keep the weak in the game, so it is an ensured NEL card.
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« Reply #174 on: July 16, 2014, 08:12:41 PM »
Unless that team is not weak then they will eliminate them... plus, if the team is eliminated, that adds an NEL in the game, so that's equivalent of keeping a weak team