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TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Hooky:
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--- Quote from: Joab on March 20, 2013, 05:50:11 AM ---I think the whole point of The Amazing Race is to display culture and society differences in the perspective of the host country. I mean, I am pretty sure the RB was not meant to be disrespectful towards Vietnam in anyway, and I am sure Vietnam love and adore the fact to be still viewed as somewhat a communist country and the people of the country believe/hold such a belief as well.
So, if you feel as an American or people from another country feel infuriated/awkward or any negative feelings just by watching it, it is OKAY because we have subscribed to democracy since the time when we were born (assuming we live in mostly democratic countries).
Them singing, waving flags, dancing to a song that sings about their country is nothing different to Americans celebrating their independence day through performances as well. It's just cultural differences that perhaps you simply do not adhere to, but really, the Roadblock task has done nothing negative but in fact open up our eyes to the culture of Vietnam.
The Detour of making Pho was also culturally relevant and interesting. I just had qualms with the Chinese Chess task. Too easy, anti-climax and simply non-challenging. They should have made them learn some moves of chess (should they really need to have a CHINESE chess task in VIETNAM), otherwise, they should have just totally just changed it to completing some very traditional and uniquely Vietnamese games.
I also like the fact they visited the Shrine and showed the B52. Be more open towards history and culture because that is what part the whole race is all about. Nothing is meant to purposely demean a country or put a country in a negative light on TAR I believe.
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Totally agree with Joab! Sometimes, I wonder why if the production showcased something that's not really culturally relevant (TAR21 Surabaya Leg), you didn't like it, but when the production showcased something like the Roadblock recently and the B52 Memorial, you also didn't like it? (Sorry, I personally think that some of you don't like that) :(
Actually, what's your opinion by this so-called culturally relevance? Is it HAS to be dancing, painting, music, food, etc.? I think that the song Roadblock and the memorial is something that you obviously can't find in other countries, so in my opinion, it's culturally relevant with Vietnam. If you don't agree about some of the one the production showcased, why don't you design a leg by yourself that you think won't get any complaint from the viewers from ALL AROUND THE WORLD? 'Cause I think that some of us will complain that the leg is boring, not creative, not culturally relevant, etc. ;)
And I think that this is the time that we have to respect people around us. That's why there are so many kinds of culture and society differences in earth. I'm sorry to say this, but there's not only one kind of people who live in this world y'know. What has happened, let it go. So, just learn to accept what other people/countries belief. Thanks! :)
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I want to add: The person that wins the war writes the story. Vietnam won, they can write their story in their country however they want. :)
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Okay, I can see where you're coming from. Fair enough.
starrynight:
--- Quote from: paradoxinee on March 19, 2013, 02:42:22 AM ---Do you European or American? because the Asian faces sometimes look familiar to European/American.
For the Roadblock, I think it's quite easy because there are only typos in the letter and one poster only had one mistake. If it has typo in accent marker and many typo in one poster, it will make it more difficult. But becaus that phrase has not much accent marker so...
For example:
Right phrase: Vinh quang thay thế hệ thanh niên chúng ta
Wrong phrase: Vinh quang thay thề hệ thank niêm chùng ta
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It was like they were putting English words in to the phrase to make it wrong, surely that would only fool idiots for a long time.
Hooky:
--- Quote from: Magnus on March 21, 2013, 01:42:56 PM ---Apparently this episode is getting some media attention: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/03/21/amazing-race-episode-set-in-hanoi-sparks-outrage/
I didn't really get that impression while watching, I thought the communist song was supposed to be a joke. It would have been nice to mention the Americans who died at the plane wreck. They have taken moments like that before at other locations.
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So I was right:
--- Quote from: Hooky on March 18, 2013, 06:19:52 PM ---On a note that is only somewhat related, that ridiculous performance they had to watch could definitely be said to be propaganda in the U.S.
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Ultimately, however, for it to be officially defined as propaganda, it must be proven that the task was featured on the show specifically for the purpose of promoting a political ideology. I don't know that that could be proven in this case. More likely it was featured simply to reveal the culture of the country.
It doesn't really bother me as much as it probably seemed when I first posted (my mistake for using emphatic language), but it is interesting nevertheless.
starrynight:
Well I've heard what I might consider American propaganda on the show before, so I think it's nice to have a view from elsewhere. And as it's a race around the world to broaden people's horizons I assume (rather than just for tourist photography) that could be considered a good thing.
apskip:
I found it interesting to research what are today classified as Socialist countries. Here is what I found:
A socialist country is one where the central government controls basically everything. They plan, control and distribute goods, with a view of having more equity distribution of labor and goods, and these countries are often led by a dictator. The current countries that practice socialism are Burma, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, North Korea and People's Republic of China, Syria, Belarus, Sweden, Laos, Zambia, Turkmenistan. There have been other countries that had this form of government before but have stopped. There are no other European other countries that are completely socialist. The list of socialist countries is most certainly open to alternate views, one of which is that all countries today are essentially capitalist, including Vietnam despite its rhetoric. Another is that Norway, Libya, Algeria, and Namibia could be added to the list.
So, you can decide for yourself what constitutes a Socialist country and whether Vietnam is essentially a Socialist country.
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