Topic: TARaus2 EP 6 Show Discussion! **Starts Monday at 730PM (aus)**

[georgiapeach]

 
 
 
 
 
Somebody start this if I forget, okay??

[Zack.]

That was...aggressively poor leg design. No bunching, a (meaningless) Yield and an Intersection combine to make it such that Russ/Tarryn had no chance and in fact, given the structure of the previous leg, the team that was last would probably have been eliminated.

The tasks were good though. 

[Glamazon Racer]

I completely agree with Zack about the poor leg design.

Firstly, that soap task was just extremely stupid, beyond pointless, and a waste of five minutes of my life. (Although I did like how Sticky & Sam wanted to swap partners with Michelle & Jo. )

The two Detour tasks were of ridiculously different difficulties. The shoe-shining was simple and easy and requiring a relatively small amount of time and effort, whereas the carpet search was timely, extremely detail-oriented, and highly unsuitable to be paired up with the shoe-shining. I don't like it when the two Detour tasks are of very different difficulties. It ruins the purpose of a Detour.

The Yield was quite pointless as well, and the team who was most disadvantaged by the Yield turned out to be the team who used the Yield!

The oil wrestling thing was relatively fun to watch, but it seemed too dangerous a task for my taste. Michelle got injured and I'm quite surprised that there weren't more injuries, in all honesty. Those guys seemed keen to attack.

The Roadblock was pretty pointless, too. It was better than some of the other tasks for cultural relevance purposes, but it was not difficult and had no skill involved, preventing any chance for teams to gain or lose significant periods of time.

The Intersection is a twist that I absolutely LOVE <333 BUT it was placed in the most awful place imaginable! I mean it basically condemned the team who was MFE to go home. Any lead that Ross & Tarryn were able to develop in the previous tasks would be abolished, and they would go home regardless, because there is no way that they could make up 30 minutes on James & Sarah at the Roadblock, which was a task that gave very little room for movement.

Horrid leg design. Tasks were below mediocre. Once again, this episode is a case of the cast making it more awesome than it actually was. I am quite disappointed with this episode. Definitely my least favourite of the season, by a long way.

And OMG at Lucy & Emilia being one spot away from the Top Half! <333

I hope that France brings more excitement next week! The preview looks interesting! Grace stealing Sarah's cab or something! I hope it's a very good episode next week, because it's gonna be airing on my 18th birthday, so I'm quite excited about it! <333333

[Coutzy]

That was...aggressively poor leg design. No bunching, a (meaningless) Yield and an Intersection combine to make it such that Russ/Tarryn had no chance and in fact, given the structure of the previous leg, the team that was last would probably have been eliminated.

The tasks were good though. 

I'm usually a big fan of the odd linear leg so the teams that work to the front of the pack get a reward for it, but straight after a non elimination like that seems to defeat the purpose. I'm beginning to think that it was originally intended to be a superleg, but because of the delayed flight into Istanbul they had to force teams to wait for 12 hours at the Pit Stop so they'd be racing in daylight.

It just seems really strange to me that they'd build a leg with the Yield and Intersection on top of a marked for elimination penalty on the leg immediately after one with a Roadblock that seems to have been designed to be conducive to quitting the task. Where was the opportunity for Ross and Tarryn to make up the 30 minutes needed? Unless the producers thought the spinning task was going to be a lot harder than it seemed?

[howie_2010]

I agree with everyone above, the leg was poorly designed; the yield was a waste, and having the yield, intersection and elimination penalty in play in one episode seemed a bit much. The leg was very linear and the lack of a bunching point of a really hard challenge meant that the eliminated team was always going to be Ross & Tarryn. This is off topic, but I kinda wish TARAus would use speed bumps instead of the elimination penalty.

I'm a bit bummed that Gallipoli wasn't used as a location. I don't really buy into the jingoism behind Gallipoli, but I think it would've been the perfect opportunity to give TARAus something unique to itself.

[Glamazon Racer]

I definitely agree with howie_2010 that TARAus should use Speed Bumps. It's my favourite NEL penalty, and even though most Speed Bumps in the US TAR series have been borderline abysmal, I still like the idea of the Speed Bump over the MFE penalty.

Honestly, I wasn't expecting Gallipoli today, because I think that if they did visit Gallipoli, it would have been all over the promos for this week. It would've been a good location though.

[Dånooky]

I personally believe the producers just put the Yield just to mentally torture the racers, just the way it happened:
"Ha! You Yielded the second place team? Now wait for them and see if they want to work with you..."

I personally think the design would have worked well enough had there been no quitters in the previous leg, or more than two.

[Best Loser]

The Roadblock was pretty pointless, too. It was better than some of the other tasks for cultural relevance purposes, but it was not difficult and had no skill involved, preventing any chance for teams to gain or lose significant periods of time.

Oh I disagree, I thought this was the best task of the episode. It was better than just walking through a room with them in it to receive the next clue.


Also, regarding the preview: (100% based off the preview. I don't read spoilers, it's just in spoil tags in case you don't want to see episode predictions.)

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It made a big deal about going to Paris, but then it also shows things that had to have come from Cuba. Why are they even going to Paris then? I can't imagine that they'll just skim over a city of that size. Maybe there's just Che Guevara stuff in France for some reason.

[Topita]

Agreed with most all of the comments here, kept thinking: What's the point of a yield/intersection design like this.. 
So either it was indeed poor design after things went differently than expected, but in that case it's kind of odd they didn't have a plan B or didn't see this coming in combination with the NEL/MFE of the previous leg. 

I'm starting to think these twists are there more to create drama's and frictions rather than actual twists that make a difference in the order of the teams - especially since some of the tasks have little to do with showing some skill/patience etc.

I did enjoy the tasks for what they were for the most part, though tbh stacks of carpets vs 10 pairs of shoes to shine is a pretty simple choice, even on paper I'd say. It does seem a bit out of balance but you see that in the US TAR happening too, where almost all teams end up doing one over the other because it's far quicker.

I did enjoy watching the episode but mostly because there weren't any real drama/annoying moments and the teams all seemed to be in relative good spirits which was good for some amusing moments. Especially with the sisters being over the moon of some Turkish men. 

Maybe also because I love Turkey and the Turkish people in general, been there so many times so I just have a bit of a bias there maybe just for seeing it. 

Not too sad to see the father/daughter couple go, they had their run and as has been said before, didn't match up to the rest of the teams. And as I mentioned before some people really still need to make that switch and realize this IS after all a race. Being civil is fine but on the other hand, some people still don't seem to realize this enough. There is such a thing as too laid back as well. 

The preview was confusing indeed. 'The biggest leg yet' - I wonder if they mean it's two episode leg maybe? i.e. keep on racing?
Otherwise the bits of Cuba make no sense to me because it would be a very brief stop over in Paris, indeed.

Still entertaining enough to keep me watching, but yeah the awful leg design does annoy me to some degree, because it has too much of an effect. 

[tarflyonthewall]

The preview was confusing indeed. 'The biggest leg yet' - I wonder if they mean it's two episode leg maybe? i.e. keep on racing?
Otherwise the bits of Cuba make no sense to me because it would be a very brief stop over in Paris, indeed.

I doubt it - Grant definitely said there were twelve legs this season at the start line (and we know from last year the two-part leg is counted as two legs), and that Istanbul was the first of two non-elims. Add in the Salvage Pass leg and there's no room for a TBC.

The other issue is apparently the UK was confirmed as a country at the launch party, which would mean we have to go from Turkey to Paris to London (or wherever, but probably London given the new Tower Bridge shot in the credits) to Havana in the space of a leg. Especially considering we know there's at least one task in Paris at Le Cordon Bleu (plus probably whatever's going on with the trucks and shipping containers or whatever it was), it doesn't seem likely. I think the editors just stuffed up.

[Aussie]

Didn't Grany also say they visited the US?

[Dånooky]

I think the UK and US could be counted as "visited" but were probably just transit points.

[tarflyonthewall]

Didn't Grany also say they visited the US?

I believe so. I just figured it was in the gap between the flight from Havana and the Vancouver spoiler - I can't imagine there's too many flights between Cuba and the US, so maybe Toronto was just the best place to connect.

I've also heard this is another 12-country route. So Australia, the Philippines, India, the UAE, Turkey, France, the UK, Cuba, the US, Canada, China... we're still missing one. Maybe Thailand or Malaysia on the way down from Beijing, like Singapore last year?

Next year, I hope they pick some less obvious countries. Not that the routes they've picked these last two seasons have been bad, but... they're such obvious countries (and for the most part obvious cities in those obvious countries). I realise there's a whole lot of the world they can't go to, but why not do, for example, Malta instead of Italy, or Wales instead of England?

[georgiapeach]

I would be inclined to take things at face value.

We have a preview that shows Paris and Havana. And a voiceover that says the biggest leg ever.

So I would believe it myself.

Nothing to say that the next ep can't ALL be in Cuba.

And what exactly IS the evidence for the UK?

[tarflyonthewall]

Nothing to say that the next ep can't ALL be in Cuba.

Aside from the teams being overjoyed about flying to Paris, shots of teams in cabs with the Eiffel Tower in the background, and the Le Cordon Bleu spoiler, I agree with you.

And what exactly IS the evidence for the UK?

Apparently it was confirmed at the launch party. Combined with the obvious new shot of Tower Bridge in the credits, it seems more plausible than just a rumour.

[SoYoung]

it could be better if :

Roadblock: Finding the carpet
Intersection:
Detour: Shoe Shine vs Dance

This would give a chance for the order to shuffle and the team That is MFE can catch up (however, not n this case since they are 4 hours behind.)

I wonder if it would be interesting to put a Yield during Intersection lol. So even the teammate of the yielded team will get yielded too. Lol

[Glamazon Racer]

The Roadblock was pretty pointless, too. It was better than some of the other tasks for cultural relevance purposes, but it was not difficult and had no skill involved, preventing any chance for teams to gain or lose significant periods of time.

Oh I disagree, I thought this was the best task of the episode. It was better than just walking through a room with them in it to receive the next clue.

It was the best task of the episode in my opinion too, but I didn't like most of the tasks. The Roadblock would've definitely worked a lot better and been a lot more enjoyable if it wasn't for the awful leg design!

[ryanmissing27]

Situation in which this leg could have worked, i.e. yield not wasted whatever.
#1 assume no teams quit in the previous leg but one team is still marked for elimination.
#2 let's say the last four teams all depart pretty close together.
#3 also assume that the MFE team is in a strong alliance with one of the other teams of our 4 and that alliance team is departing first of the four
#4 alliance team yields second last team, MFE moves into second last place
#5 if all teams move through the detour taking the same amount of time (they all choose the same detour or some bizarre coincidence) alliance team and the other team arrive at the intersection first.
#6 alliance team refuses to work with the other team, waits for MFE. the other team will have to wait for the yielded.
#7 MFE is now in third last place and can try to scramble their way through the rest of the leg

other possible scenarios include MFE lucking through the carpet detour in a very short time, another team struggling badly at either the detour or roadblock, hell even medical emergency.

that's the thing with this game, there are too many variables to really predict anything. The point of my seemingly pointless ranting? It is not right to say the leg design screwed Ross and Tarryn or whoever the MFE team turned out to be, Ross and Tarryn screwed Ross and Tarryn when they quit the roadblock. Their elimination reinforces for me the mentality that it is far better to take a break than to quit. Yes that roadblock was nightmarish and hellishly difficult (40,320 possible combinations, 0.0025% chance of guessing the answer) but even if Ross had taken an hour break and then returned to the task to try again and somehow got it (let's say he uses whatever his equivalent of aura spray is) he would have departed earlier than he would have after having quit.

I think the UK and US could be counted as "visited" but were probably just transit points.

I think a similar thing happened with season 19, teams only transited through germany (well i think there was one clue box, but is take a train really a task?) and the netherlands but i believe both were required to complete the final map roadblock.

I wonder if it would be interesting to put a Yield during Intersection lol. So even the teammate of the yielded team will get yielded too. Lol

THIS haha I'm a closeted intersection fan

The preview was confusing indeed. 'The biggest leg yet' - I wonder if they mean it's two episode leg maybe? i.e. keep on racing?
Otherwise the bits of Cuba make no sense to me because it would be a very brief stop over in Paris, indeed.

I would not underestimate the potential brevity of a destination, in the first season both ho chi minh and the netherlands both only hosted one challenge before teams moved on by plane or train.

My random question for this episode: how long do you think Lucy and Emiliownage were waiting for the cops at the intersection?

[chill_sd]

I haven't seen this episode yet, but when I was reading Coutzy's commentary, I was hoping that Sticky and Sam would arrive at the intersection about the same time as Michelle and Jo.  Deciding to work together, they would leave Paul and Steve waiting for the fourth team.  That would have been epic.

[Declive]

Ridiculous leg . No chances for Ross and Tarryn.

[SoYoung]

I haven't seen this episode yet, but when I was reading Coutzy's commentary, I was hoping that Sticky and Sam would arrive at the intersection about the same time as Michelle and Jo.  Deciding to work together, they would leave Paul and Steve waiting for the fourth team.  That would have been epic.

If only there is a team trailing the twins and the girls know it, it would be epic, leaving Paul and Steve waiting for the fourth team. It would appear like the twins Yielded them in a different way. The fourth team will be GraJo and still prefer to wait for another team than working with Paul/Steve. Though,  never seen an intersection like that even with enemies teaming up.

[Saravannan]

I haven't seen this episode yet, but when I was reading Coutzy's commentary, I was hoping that Sticky and Sam would arrive at the intersection about the same time as Michelle and Jo.  Deciding to work together, they would leave Paul and Steve waiting for the fourth team.  That would have been epic.

If only there is a team trailing the twins and the girls know it, it would be epic, leaving Paul and Steve waiting for the fourth team. It would appear like the twins Yielded them in a different way. The fourth team will be GraJo and still prefer to wait for another team than working with Paul/Steve. Though,  never seen an intersection like that even with enemies teaming up.

IIRC, Dustin/Kandince were pretty close to skipping over Chala/Mirna at the intersection. I remember D/K hiding and discussing whether it was worth waiting for another team before they decided it was a bad idea and grabbed C/M. This hilarious leg also included Eric's "Miss California!(?)" quote

[georgiapeach]

Nothing to say that the next ep can't ALL be in Cuba.

Aside from the teams being overjoyed about flying to Paris, shots of teams in cabs with the Eiffel Tower in the background, and the Le Cordon Bleu spoiler, I agree with you.

NEXT episode, not THIS ep. But that is without rechecking our timeline dates...so

[Dånooky]

It is not right to say the leg design screwed Ross and Tarryn or whoever the MFE team turned out to be, Ross and Tarryn screwed Ross and Tarryn when they quit the roadblock.

THIS!

[starrynight]

Good points: 
Some of the tasks where reasonably interesting and physical (I like them daring to put a tough physical challenge in).  Made for some drama with the twins. 
Some humour mixed in from the racers along the way and while some may not like that I do.

Bad points: 
It was processional, tasks seemed pretty short except for the detour.
Both yield and marked for elimination I find pretty boring as they are without tasks and are just time penalties, and so provide little entertainment.  So I don't know why the Australian version is bringing them back.
The whirling dervish task was judged generously and that's an understatement.

Happy Sarah is still in this at least.

[Dånooky]

Botox and Boytoy forever!

[ovalorange]

After all their trouble during this leg, it appears Jo and Michelle weren't that far behind Paul and Steve...

Despite these setbacks, Michelle and Jo managed to finish second, four minutes behind arch-rivals The Alpha Males.

http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/news/story/mixed-emotions-for-amazing-race-sisters-michelle-and-joy-troy/

[starrynight]

Anyone else found it a bit weird that they stuck around so long to help the cops?  It is a race after all.

[Glamazon Racer]

It is not right to say the leg design screwed Ross and Tarryn or whoever the MFE team turned out to be, Ross and Tarryn screwed Ross and Tarryn when they quit the roadblock.

THIS!

Obviously there's some truth in that, but I don't completely agree with the statement, because even if all teams successfully completed the previous leg's Roadblock, the team who got Marked for Elimination would have been likely to be one of the last two teams to reach the Intersection (as the Detour didn't provide much opportunity for major time wasting, unless someone is crazy enough to spend hours searching through carpets), and even if they managed to get to the Intersection in sixth place or better, the Roadblock does not allow the team to make up thirty minutes over anybody.

Regardless of who was Marked for Elimination, and regardless of how far behind they were, in my opinion the leg design all but sealed their fate. If the previous leg was not a NEL, then the leg design for this one would've been good (but then I'd be complaining about Leg 5's design ).

Just my opinion of the situation, but it is just about the most poorly designed (non-finale) leg I've seen.

[Glamazon Racer]

Anyone else found it a bit weird that they stuck around so long to help the cops?  It is a race after all.

Well assuming they knew that two teams were four hours behind them, then they would've known that they were at no risk of being eliminated, and maybe that's why they stuck around?

Personally, if I was on the race and I knew that two teams were four hours behind, I would definitely stick around for a while and help them, but personally, I wouldn't have helped if it was an intense battle for elimination or something.

[starrynight]

Yeh I know they would have felt it was unlikely they could be eliminated, but they basically gave up on winning the leg which seemed unusual for them.  I can understand staying back to help for 5-10 minutes perhaps but near half an hour not so much.  And a team can always switch in a detour anyway.

[Topita]

Hmmm are we supposed to discuss that stuff over here or in the episode 6 thread? 
Anyway, they keep saying they're laid back, and that exactly that attitude got them this far whereas other teams are dealing with more stress putting in too much energy into that.

I think looking at some of the teams internally as well as dynamics between some teams (in the preview for next week as well) they may well have a point there. So the attitude per se isn't so wrong, or not yet anyway. But when it comes down to it, they'll have to really want to go for the win or they will make one mistake (like they did in the beginning with that taxi ripping them off) and it's all over for them.

So they would need to find the right balance between 'laid back' and sharpness with a real will to push through.
I'm afraid this attitude at some point might cost them dearly (I hope not but I can definitely see how it might). 

[SoYoung]

Considering Sam and Sticky's average placing is the highest until now, they are the real threat and should be a target of u-Turn. They might be avoiding a chance to be u-turned by having a good relationship with the other teams which is still a risky move.

[Jimmer]

I think the pit fall to this leg was that there was no bunch up point.

The Turkish bath house would be much more interesting if 16 people were competing to finish the bar of soap.

The Yield would have more of an affect if there was a bunch up.

The Detour could lead to many people competing for customers at the shoe shine providing more drama.

There could be more drama when choosing teams at the Intersection.

[Jimmer]

Nevertheless from above. This is the second time where an Intersection was poorly placed on TARAus (The other being the wood cutting). There was very minimal opportunity to make up time after the Intersection and your fate was easily in the hands of the taxi driver.

[balfour]

After all their trouble during this leg, it appears Jo and Michelle weren't that far behind Paul and Steve...

Despite these setbacks, Michelle and Jo managed to finish second, four minutes behind arch-rivals The Alpha Males.

http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/news/story/mixed-emotions-for-amazing-race-sisters-michelle-and-joy-troy/

Yes, an intersection has that effect of equalizing.

[bcp19]

Anyone else found it a bit weird that they stuck around so long to help the cops?  It is a race after all.

Well assuming they knew that two teams were four hours behind them, then they would've known that they were at no risk of being eliminated, and maybe that's why they stuck around?

Personally, if I was on the race and I knew that two teams were four hours behind, I would definitely stick around for a while and help them, but personally, I wouldn't have helped if it was an intense battle for elimination or something.

This is my thought as well, they helped us, so help them, but within reason.  I might help for 20-30 min, depending on the estimation of teams behind, but I would be up front and tell them I'll help, but for only this long.

[tarflyonthewall]

Is anyone able to identify the Turkish bath they used? There's no shot of the clue and it's not subtitled OR mentioned on Wikipedia.

[SoYoung]

Nevertheless from above. This is the second time where an Intersection was poorly placed on TARAus (The other being the wood cutting). There was very minimal opportunity to make up time after the Intersection and your fate was easily in the hands of the taxi driver.

The wood cutting imtersection in season 1 is a decent one IMO since the task is not easy.

[Topita]

Is anyone able to identify the Turkish bath they used? There's no shot of the clue and it's not subtitled OR mentioned on Wikipedia.

Looks like it's the Haseki Hürrem Hammam (Grant says something similar, Hurrem Hamami).
It was built in the 16th century and looks like it both inside and out. 
Looks like it's been refurbished somewhat on the outside.













So basically it looks like they ran from the Archeological museum (A) past the Aya Sofia towards the hamam. 

[tarflyonthewall]

Thanks, Topita!

[WalterC]

Finally saw the episode.

While I liked seeing more of Istanbul, I was worried that another leg in the same city would be trouble for Ross & Tarryn, as I had a feeling there would be no Hours of Operations bunchup point, since teams checked in the previous leg at night, which meant they depart in the next leg during the daytime. So no surprise that they got eliminated, because of that, which added more to the odds stacked against them. And back-to-back non-elimination legs was very unlikely in this case.

Not really hating any of the remaining teams, other than Grace.

The 2 teams of sisters continue to surprise me, as I did not expect to get either one to get far in the race. And glad to see James & Sarah still in it, as I thought they would be gone by the 3rd leg. And it was funny

Before the Yield, I was like "what are the twins" issue with Paul?". Then it happened.  And it was kind of funny (in a twisted way) when seeing Jo struggling to stay up after completing the Roadblock, with the look of her eyes.

[Jobby]

EPISODE SIX HERE I COME!

[Jobby]

Gooooo Ross and Tarryn, please survive! Even over Emilia and Lucy!

I know I've mentioned it but the intro caps are freaking awesome and amazing. I usually skip over intro but for this season I just watch it over and over again!

Was Grant Bowler damn pissed off with Paul and Steve? He did not even do the voiceover of "Paul and Steve who were the first to arrive at 9.59pm, will depart at 9.59am blah blah blah"!

Yes yes, U-TURN 2 legs in a row and that was why you didn't do well Paul and Steve... loads of excuses. There was no U-TURN on leg 1 and which position did you come in.... 10TH?

Go twins! Beat Paul and Steve! YES, IT'S GONNA BE YOU TWO!

Shine OR Design... wow, the Detour names are a little... far-fetched, I think they must have thought that it sounded the same and just carried on with it.

Yield.... WTF? TAR Australia.. you are spamming the entire leg with game specials??? Paul and Steve, if you don't get to use this one, you two honestly, really, suckass.

Michelle and Jo in the shower... nice. I think let me just rewatch this moment again.

Sticky and Sam... omg, lecherous!

Yielding Michelle and Jo?? Like, okay... great strategy there, really.

Omg. Did Sticky and Sam and the cops forget to pass by the YIELD? PENALTY PENALTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Declive]

Michelle and Jo in the shower... nice. I think let me just rewatch this moment again.

We all rewatched that . 

[Jobby]

OMG. OMG. An Intersection? WTF. This is just toooooo good to be true. Paul and Steve, I HOPE NOBODY WANTS TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS!!! Imagine they Yielded the twins and the twins show up next?? They are just slowing themselves down. MAJOR KARMA! I hope the twins or whoever don't work with them!!!

MAJOR KARMA PAUL AND STEVE!!!

Oh no, we don't see Joseph and Grace at the Yield mat too, means every other team most probably passed by it and they edited it out for more drama in the episode for us viewers to watch! CAN'T WAIT!

GO TWINS! PLEASE REFUSE TO WORK WITH PAUL AND STEVE!

Emilia and Lucy, totally enjoying their shoe shine challenge!

Tarryn and Ross <333 Please survive!!

Omg, twins working with Paul and Steve.... It's okay, it shows how gracious they are... BEAT THEM FAIR AND SQUARE!

Omg, poor Jo and Michelle. I hope Lucy and Emilia gets there first and gets to work with Sticky and Sam!

Grace: Watching those guys come out, it was beautiful... I had my eyes on one... oh my goodness. Reason why TAR Australia teams rock!

Emilia: I just cuddled that one big guy.
Lucy: You just wanted that cuddle.
Emilia: Yea I did...

OMG, this race is EPIC!

[Jobby]

Paul and Steve are first again, Ew.

$5,000. Prize. LOL, that's 2x lesser. Great.

What a funny Roadblock! <3

Emilia doing the dance so gratefully. <3

Emilia and Lucy, 5th place.  FINAL SEVEN, I THINK?

Please let Ross and Tarryn survive.

Ross and Tarryn got a bad cab. IT'S OVER.

Poor father and daughter.

This sucks. In the end a bad cab killed my poor father and daughter. The Intersection is a BAD PLACEMENT. How could they put it so late into the game?? Argh....

Worst leg I've watched so far.

[SoYoung]

Paul and Steve are first again, Ew.

$5,000. Prize. LOL, that's 2x lesser. Great.

What a funny Roadblock! <3

Emilia doing the dance so gratefully. <3

Emilia and Lucy, 5th place.  FINAL SEVEN, I THINK?

Please let Ross and Tarryn survive.

Ross and Tarryn got a bad cab. IT'S OVER.

Poor father and daughter.

This sucks. In the end a bad cab killed my poor father and daughter. The Intersection is a BAD PLACEMENT. How could they put it so late into the game?? Argh....

Worst leg I've watched so far.

even with a good driver I dont think they'll survive.

[Glamazon Racer]

I've said it before, but I don't think this leg's design allowed any chance for the MFE team not to be eliminated, regardless of who it was. Very poorly designed, IMO.

[boston_jen]

I didn't like the leg design either.  I don't like to see an intersection that late in the leg.  The only task after the intersection was spinning for 5 minutes, so how in the world could a team with a 30-minute MFE penalty looming have any hope?  I suppose, in theory, that if 3 teams or more had to quit the last task on the previous leg, the MFE team could have ended up not being in the final intersected grouping.  In reality, they had no shot.

[Jobby]

I didn't like the leg design either.  I don't like to see an intersection that late in the leg.  The only task after the intersection was spinning for 5 minutes, so how in the world could a team with a 30-minute MFE penalty looming have any hope?  I suppose, in theory, that if 3 teams or more had to quit the last task on the previous leg, the MFE team could have ended up not being in the final intersected grouping.  In reality, they had no shot.

They honestly had no shot. I totally forgot about the 30 minutes penalty. DANG!

If I had remembered it, it would have made the whole episode anti-climax.. thank goodness I forgot about it and kept clinging on to a chance that the MFE could catch up. Yes, you are right. No bunching, so that penalty was just bad and anti-climax. The only chance for them to survive would be 3 teams quitting the final task.. and I could totally see Emilia and Lucy getting eliminated.

[G.B.]

Sorry if this has been brought up before/somewhere else, but I just noticed it.

R/T and J/S received a 4-hour penalty at the end of the previous Pit Stop, but they departed only about 2 hours after L/E on this leg...