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TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« on: July 22, 2010, 07:01:30 AM »
Hey guys, what if Season 18 was all-stars 2 who will u pick? And how about a possible route?


1. Ronald & Christina (Season 12)*
2. Kynt & Vyxsin (Season 12)*
3. Ken & Tina (Season 13)*
4. Toni & Dallas (Season 13)*
5. Mark & Michael (Season 14)
6. Tammy & Victor (Season 14)*
7. Margie & Luke (Season 14)*
8. Brian & Ericka (Season 15)*
9. Gary & Matt (Season 15)
10. Katie & Rachel (Season 17)
11. Andie & Jenna (Season 17)

*Teams to watch

Possible final 3: Mark & Michael, Katie & Rachel, Margie & Luke

Route: Elimination Legs in Red

Leg 1: Denver, Colorado - Guatemala City, Guatemala
Leg 2: Guatemala City, Guatemala - Panama City, Panama
Leg 3: Panama City, Panama - Buenos Aires, Argentina
Leg 4: Buenos Aires to Mendoza (switchback task involving the meat)
Leg 5: Mendoza, Argentina - Paris, France
Leg 6: Paris, France - Rome, Italy

Leg 7: Rome, Italy - Sicily, Italy
Leg 8: Sicily, Italy - Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Leg 9: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - Melbourne, Australia
Leg 10: Melbourne, Australia
Leg 11: Melbourne, Australia - Bali, Indonesia (do the Amazing Race Asia 1 the surfboard challenge)
Leg 12: Bali, Indonesia - Seattle, USA

Starting line: Colorado State Capitol, Denver
Finish line: Green Lake Park, Seattle

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 07:20:52 AM »
PS: Okay guys for fairness sake, NO PICKING Seasons 1-10, as they had their chance will all-stars 1

Possible final 3: Mark & Michael, Katie & Rachel, Margie & Luke

I'll come up with my route later

Line 1: I wonder, do all of them got casted in All-Stars? Only 11 did. How about the remaining ~110 teams?
Line 2: How did you know?  Why do you think so?
Line 3: Is this another dream wishlist?

Just askin' ;)
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 08:54:47 AM »
Kynt and Vyxsin


The rest doesn't really bother me too much.

OH! Put Kelly and Christy in there too.

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2010, 10:26:01 AM »
Mark & Michael being on that list already makes it dubious and suspect, to say the least (though the others are fine enough).

If it's from seasons twelve through sixteen (I refuse to pick a season coming up that hasn't even aired yet, and think of those that didn't wanna be spoiled!) . . .

1. Azaria & Hendekea (TAR12)
2. Kynt & Vyxsin (TAR12)
3. Ronald & Christina (TAR12)
4. Kelly & Christy (TAR13)
5. Ken & Tina (TAR13)
6. Margie & Luke (TAR14)
7. Jaime & Cara (TAR14)
8. Flight Time & Big Easy (TAR15)
9. Meghan & Cheyne (TAR15)
10. Carol & Brandy (TAR16)
11. Reserved for TAR17 Team
12. Reserved for TAR17 Team

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2010, 11:04:20 AM »
MY WISHLIST OF POSSIBLE CANDIDATES (Coming from only the seasons I've watched yet)

Season 2:
Peggy & Claire
Tara & Wil
Blake & Paige

Season 3:
Flo & Zach
Ken & Gerard
Tramel & Talicia

Season 5:
Charla & Mirna! (No, to be fair, let's put them out. :lol:)
Colin & Christie
Linda & Karen

Season 6:
Jonathan & Victoria
Kris & Jon
Lori & Bolo

Season 7:
Rob & Amber! (TBFair, Pull them out. :lol:)
Meredith & Gretchen

Season 8:
Linda & one of her daughters/son (I'd love Linda and Rolly!)
2 members from Gaghan (I'd love Tammy and Carissa!)
2 from Godlewskis (Alpha Females)
Marion and Tony Paolo

Season 9:
BJ & Tyler
Lisa & Joni
Fran & Barry
Dave & Lori (rumors has it that they were cut by the last minute from TAR-AS?)

Season 10:
David & Mary! (:lol:)
Lyn & Karlyn
Dustin & Kandice! (:lol:)

Season 12:
Ronald & Christina
Kynt & Vyxsin
Nate & Jen
Ari & Staella
Azaria & Hendekea
Nick & Don

Season 13:
Ken & Tina
Toni & Dallas
Kelly & Christy
Anita & Arthur

Season 14:
Margie & Luke
Jaime & Cara
Mel & Mike

Season 15:
Brian & Ericka
Maria & Tiffany
Zev & Justin
Lance & Keri
Eric & Lisa (I love them even by looking)

Season 16:
Carol & Brandy
Jordan & Jeff

Season 17: ---

MY SET OF RACERS - WISHLIST (12 Teams)

1. Carol & Brandy
2. Kynt & Vyxsin
3. Jaime & Cara
4. Colin & Christie
5. Ken & Gerard
6. Toni & Dallas
7. Dave & Lori
8. Jonathan & Victoria
9. Tammy & Carissa Gaghan
10. Ronald & Christina
11. Ken & Tina
12. Margie & Luke

..........

BUT WAIT.... I SMELL SOMETHING!!!!

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2010, 12:37:57 PM »
And I wish for the non-existence of any future Amazing Race All-Stars seasons because they are inferior to regular seasons.

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 02:16:59 AM »
I kinda hope this doesn't happen, but with S18 applications not having been released yet, it's starting to look like a possibility.

Racers:

Kynt & Vyxsin (TAR12)
Nicolas & Donald (TAR12)
Toni & Dallas (TAR13)
Kelly & Christy (TAR13)
Margie & Luke (TAR14)
Jaime & Cara (TAR14)
Sam & Dan (TAR15)
Brian & Ericka (TAR15)
Jet & Cord (TAR16)
Carol & Brandy (TAR16)
F/F Team (TAR17)


Route:

As far as I'm concerned, they should only go to cities and/or countries they've never been before, including Start and End Cities. I would also do 13 Legs, like the last All-Star season.

Leg 1:
San Diego, California, USA -> Guayaquil, Ecuador
Leg 2:
Guayaquil, Ecuador -> Asuncion, Paraguay
Leg 3:
Asuncion, Paraguay -> Porto Alegre, Brazil
Leg 4:
Porto Alegre, Brazil -> Madrid, Spain
Leg 5:
Madrid, Spain -> Dublin, Ireland
Leg 6:
Dublin, Ireland -> Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK
Leg 7:
Belfast, Northern Ireland, UK -> Doha, Qatar
Leg 8:
Doha, Qatar -> Vladivostok, Russia
Leg 9:
Vladivostok, Russia -> Melbourne, Australia
Leg 10:
Melbourne, Australia -> Hobart, Australia
Leg 11:
Hobart, Australia -> Suva, Fiji
Leg 12:
Suva, Fiji -> Vancouver, Canada
Leg 13:
Vancouver, Canada -> St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 03:16:38 AM »
I'll come up with my route later

Line 1: I wonder, do all of them got casted in All-Stars? Only 11 did. How about the remaining ~110 teams?
Line 2: How did you know?  Why do you think so?
Line 3: Is this another dream wishlist?

Just askin' ;)
If you want to turn this into a wishlist, please put "wishlist" in the title so that readers won't be confused whether this is the real thing or not. Thnx. :tup:


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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 10:35:56 PM »
Another All-Stars should not only bring back teams from TAR 12 and onwards, but should also give some teams from the skipped seasons (4 and 6), as well as some who proved they could have gone further, a chance this time. Winners should not be selected. Here's the cast I would love to see:

1. Jon & Al (4)
2. Colin & Christie (5)
3. Lena & Kristy (6)
4. Kris & Jon (6)
5. Ronald & Christina (12)
6. Azaria & Hendekea (12)
7. Ken & Tina (13)
8. Toni & Dallas (13)
9. Margie & Luke (14)
10. Zev & Justin (15)
11. Jet & Cord (16)
12. Steve & Allie (16)
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 11:10:15 PM »
If I were doing a "recent" All-Stars then I would have the following:

Carol and Brandy (16): Such lightning rods that if they do bring back teams, I don't know how these two aren't amongst them.
Kisha and Jen (14): One potty break kept them out of the final three. Well, that and Jen having a complete meltdown at the pool.
Kelly and Christie (13): Good racers. Need another female-female team.
Globetrotters (15): Enjoyed watching them race. Had fun, stayed competitive.
Ken and Tina (13): One of the more touching moments was when they were on the mat at the conclusion of their season.
Dallas and Toni (13): Unfortunate passport episode kept them from possibly winning the race. They were getting stronger as the race neared completion. I think that a final three with them, Nick and Starr and Ken and Tina is unbelievably close.
Azaria and Hendekea (12): Brother-Sister team who seemed very strong but just hit that leg where nothing goes right.
Kynt and Vixsin (12): One of the more memorable teams in TAR history. Just like with Carol and Brandy, I can't imagine an All-Stars race that doesn't include them.
Mark and Bill (13): They were two guys that you wanted to see do well. Sadly, they misread or ignored the clue and it cost them. Hate to see a team eliminated like that.
Margie and Luke (14): Proved the doubters wrong week after week.
Amanda and Kris (14): Strong team who struggled with a detour and then fell victim to a U-Turn.
Eric and Lisa (15): Only because TAR did them wrong with that starting line elimination. Give them a chance to run the race.
Zev and Justin: Who wasn't pulling for these guys before the passport mishap?

That's 13 teams. Probably subtract one of the male-male teams to make 12, and do what you want from there, but that's just how I see it...

I think this would present an unbelievably strong group of teams. Eric and Lisa are the only team that one wouldn't really know what to expect and that's because we haven't really seen them race. Among the other 11 teams, you could make the case that any of them could be the first ones eliminated or be in the final three.

How many of my teams were recruits? Carol and Brandy, Eric and Lisa, Amanda and Kris (?), Globetrotters (?)
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2010, 11:24:05 PM »
It has to have stand-outs e.g

Kynt and Vyxsin
Ken and Tina
Carol and Brandy
Azaria and Hendekea
Toni and Dallas
Margie and Luke
Jamie and Cara
Colin and Christie
Jon and Al
Linda and Karen
Ken and Gerard
Dave and Lori
Ron and Christina
Meghan and Cheyne
Meredith and Gretchen (age problem = 72,69)
BJ and Tyler
Chip and Kim

and if 3 timers were allowed I'm sure:
Rob and Amber
Charla and Mirna
Dustin and Kandice
Joe and Bill
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 01:51:05 PM »
My wish?

No AllStars EVER again.

And I think CBS would have to drag Eric and Lisa screaming to the start line...they would be highly unlikely to want to try this again.
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 02:42:36 PM »
I liked All-Stars the first time, did you not Peach? Just the bootlist killed it right  (:;)

I would love a big-returning players Season 20 of TAR because it will be (should be) around 10 years since the beginning of the show we love and it just seems right!

But I would only ask for 1 more and never again, not like Survivor, having possibly 4 in 22 seasons  :lol: and more to come...

But BVM said no to another A-S, so maybe it wont happen  :duno:
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2010, 02:44:21 PM »
As long as there are no more lame Eric and Danielle combi team.

And 11 teams who are really really memorable and doesn't include teams in the first all-star because they've had their chance.

Flo and Zach
Linda and Karen
Colin and Christy
Kris and Jon
Maybe Carissa and one of her family members when she grows up
BJ and Tyler (hated them at all cost, but they are seriously memorable)
Lyn and Karlyn
Ronald and Christina
Tammy and Victor
Margie and Luke
Kisha and Jen/Cara and Jaime
Meghan and Cheyne/Brian and Ericka
Carol and Brandy
Jet and Cord

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2010, 05:11:59 PM »
My wish?

No AllStars EVER again.

And I think CBS would have to drag Eric and Lisa screaming to the start line...they would be highly unlikely to want to try this again.

I agree. The list I posted was what I would like to see if they do decide to go All-Stars.

The thing that was so bad about TAR11 was that all of the teams had developed since the race and gone onto semi-celebrity status. Reality TV and TAR does that to everyone, particularly those who stay longer in the race and/or are memorable. Teams were much more conscious of the cameras and the initial excitement was not there because they had done it before.

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2010, 06:43:44 PM »

Well, if it is an all-stars including new seasons, then my wishlist is:
1.Kynt & Vyxsin (TAR 12)
2.Azaria & Hendekea (TAR 12)
3.Marisa & Brooke (TAR 13)
4.Kelly & Christy (TAR 13)
5.Terence & Sarah (TAR 13)
6.Jaime & Cara (TAR 14)
7.Kisha & Jen (TAR 14)
8.Sam & Dan (TAR 15)
9.Maria & Tiffany (TAR 15)
10.Jordan & Jeff (TAR 16)
11.Carol & Brandy (TAR 16)
12. TAR 17

and if i can include teams from older seasons, i would add Charla & Mirna, Lena & Kristy and Dustin & Kandice.
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2010, 07:31:04 PM »
This is my wishlist... I didn't pick any teams from seasons 9-13 because I haven't watched those yet!

1. Nancy & Emily (TAR 1)
2. Blake & Paige (TAR 2)
3. Kelly & Jon (TAR 4)
4. Lena & Kristy (TAR 6)
5. Meredith & Gretchen (TAR 7)
6. Bill & Tammy Gaghan (TAR 8 )
7. Margie & Luke (TAR 14)
8. Jaime & Cara (TAR 14)
9. Eric & Lisa (TAR 15)
10. Zev & Justin (TAR 15)
11. Steve & Allie (TAR 16)
12. Jet & Cord (TAR 16)
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2010, 09:23:53 PM »
Well my two cents (well probably 40 cents).

The real problem with All Stars (especially for people who are diehard fans, is that with us religiously going over every single aspect of the race that we can before it airs, one of the few real surprises for us is team interactions (with each other, with locals and with other teams). 

With the previous all stars we had (i think its safe to say) one of the most spoiled seasons we have ever experienced.  And since we already new the teams to a far greater degree then any new team, it really, really didn't hold much in the way of surprises. 

Really the big surprises were the flight issues in several episodes, and that well for myself at least isn't interesting.

If they do another All Stars, I will probably be very careful to avoid spoilers, so that more of the episodes are new to me.

As to selections for  myself I have always been (unless you are a complete and total ass (Hi jonathug, Hi Will, Oh look the Weavers!!!) I want all stars to be the best racers.  So that limits me.

That then puts me under one or two options.

1.  The best overall teams (personal opinion of course as each individual season has different strengths and weaknesses) regardless of team makeup.  THis option will, never, ever, ever happen.  But its one I actually would really love to watch.

2.  Try and create normal mix of racers (gay team, african american team, 2 all male teams, an older team, sibling or parent/child team, one or two all female teams, an every man team, two couples, one fighting couple team, one humor team ect), and then find what I find are the best racing teams that fit that criteria.

For example, on female teams I would look at all the female teams and then think which are do I think are the best racing (others might pick most entertaining, I almost never would) and use that to fill those roles.  I also would not consider any team that didn't make it half the race (so teams that I liked like Brad & Victoria, Amanda & Kris, Mark & Bill, Zev & Justin sorry but I wouldn't pick you and I really like all of those teams).

So here would be my list.  11 teams.

1.  Colin & Christie (I don't love them, but seriously...)

2.  Kris & Jon  (Again a no brainer)

3.  Any of these Alpha Male team (because they absolutely should have been considered for season 11 and were not just due to being fit all male teams, which is utter crap in my opinion).  Rob & Brennan (Season 1), Derek & Drew (season 3), Eric & Jeremy (season 9), or Tyler & James (season 10).  Out of these four I would pick either Eric & Jeremy or Rob & Brennan as I find them to be the superior racing teams.

That none of those three sets made it for the first all stars is really unbelievable.

Now to newer teams.
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4.  Nick & Starr or Meghan & Cheyne (both have earned it) or even Tammy & Victor

5.  Toni & Dallas or Margie & Luke (Love both teams so either would please me greatly).

6.  Nicholas & Donald (Mainly due to no true older team doing well in many, many a season).  Or Ken & Tina (I don't really think of them as older) but they did quite well.

7.  Jaime & Cara (after all cab drivers need someone to hate)

8.  Sam & Dan

9.  Kisha & Jen (or if another female team is good this coming season)

10.  Jet & Cord (really season 16 raced across the board so awful so often, but if I had to pick one team).

11.  Off beat humor team would be happy with any of these three teams.  Jon & Al, Ken & Gerard or Kynt & Vyxzin.

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 10:18:32 PM »
mswood, Amen to your thoughts on AllStars season. I am on record as not wanting to ever see an AllStars season again, but if there is one, then what you said is so close to the way I see it that there are only a few minor points of difference:

Ken was age 51 and Tina age 48 when they competed in Amazing Race 13. Was that too old to win? No way, but they are older!

I would pick Jon and Al over Kynt  and Vyxsin just because I think Jon and Al were robbed on what could have been final victory by some fog and ineptness by Korean Airlines. They deserve the chance to go all the way and would provide great entertainment throughout doing so.

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2010, 11:33:36 PM »
I would rather see a race of the fourth outs...or maybe the robbed teams like Brad/Vic, Zev/Justin, and a few unlucky first outs.

But I stand by loving NEW teams of ordinary people...not recruited, just wonderful applicants. There are thousands of them, we know it is possible. Look at the joy of season one.
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2010, 11:48:11 PM »
To make it fair if we're talking about teams after the first allstars I would pick


1. Kynt & Vyxsin (TAR12) (Awesome team in my opinion, just unlucky)
2. Ronald & Christina (TAR12)
3. Ken & Tina (TAR13) (Good team, deserves another chance)
4. Toni & Dallas (TAR13) (Very strong team, could of won TAR13 imo)
5. Margie & Luke (TAR 14) (Good team, love the mother/son side of TAR, could of won TAR14, just unlucky I guess)
6. Amanda & Kris (TAR 14) (Good team, picked because they got the UTURN, would make the race interesting)
7. Jaime & Cara (TAR 14) (I want an all female team to win TAR, they would stand a good chance)
8. Zev & Justin (TAR 15) (Speaks for itself, great team)
9. Jordan & Jeff (TAR 16) (They have potential)
10. Carol & Brandy (TAR 16) (I like this team)
11. Jet & Cord (TAR 16) (Awesomeness)

If there's a 12th team, reserved for *Winners*

12. TK & Rachel (TAR 12) Or Dan & Jordan (TAR 16) (I found these 2 teams the most likable of all the winners since TAR 11)

I like this team choice, all of them have made a huge impact in each race they've been in, all of them have personality and are decent racers. If anything if CBS picked these il'd be like OMG I wonder who will win. It'd be so hard to tell lol

These are my 13 favourite teams.

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2010, 11:51:31 PM »
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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2010, 11:59:01 PM »
mswood, Amen to your thoughts on AllStars season. I am on record as not wanting to ever see an AllStars season again, but if there is one, then what you said is so close to the way I see it that there are only a few minor points of difference:

Ken was age 51 and Tina age 48 when they competed in Amazing Race 13. Was that too old to win? No way, but they are older!

I would pick Jon and Al over Kynt  and Vyxsin just because I think Jon and Al were robbed on what could have been final victory by some fog and ineptness by Korean Airlines. They deserve the chance to go all the way and would provide great entertainment throughout doing so.
I had thought that Ken & Tina were both in their forties when they raced.  Knowing they are older then I had assumed I would certainly use them as the token older team.

As for Jon and Al, I was very surprised they weren't really even considered for the first all stars.  I would love to see them or Ken & Gerard again.  Both far more then Kynt & Vyxzin.

I also would ideally prefer their not be an all stars.  But I am getting more and more curious as we have had no solid news on casting for a cycle 18.

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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2010, 12:10:51 AM »
I would rather see a race of the fourth outs...or maybe the robbed teams like Brad/Vic, Zev/Justin, and a few unlucky first outs.

But I stand by loving NEW teams of ordinary people...not recruited, just wonderful applicants. There are thousands of them, we know it is possible. Look at the joy of season one.
I really wouldn't call Brad & Victoria or Zev and Justin robbed as their own errors caused their eliminations.

But one of the pluses for a Season of Early outs is that in many cases we never really got to see a lot of these teams.  The problem with this is (besides of course events outside your own control) it's really difficult to judge how well teams that went out early actually race.  As most of the racers who had completed or nearly completed the race will attest that the further along you get the harder the race is as you are suffering from fatigue, hunger, more stress, ect.


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Re: TAR All-Stars 2 Wish List
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2010, 02:59:13 AM »
I would rather see a race of the fourth outs...or maybe the robbed teams like Brad/Vic, Zev/Justin, and a few unlucky first outs.

But I stand by loving NEW teams of ordinary people...not recruited, just wonderful applicants. There are thousands of them, we know it is possible. Look at the joy of season one.
I really wouldn't call Brad & Victoria or Zev and Justin robbed as their own errors caused their eliminations.

But one of the pluses for a Season of Early outs is that in many cases we never really got to see a lot of these teams.  The problem with this is (besides of course events outside your own control) it's really difficult to judge how well teams that went out early actually race.  As most of the racers who had completed or nearly completed the race will attest that the further along you get the harder the race is as you are suffering from fatigue, hunger, more stress, ect.


I believe there will be another all stars to feed the hunger of all diehard fans? Survivor couldn't resist and did many allstars or half or part allstars season. I know the prouducers of TAR said Allstars was a bad idea.. but i think if they are to do it again, there will be much more careful planning and selection of teams.

And oh i forgot all about Kynt and Vyxsin.. definitely a memorable team. And it would be good to get some of the family edition teams to race as a team of two. Mama Paolo and Papa Paolo will be fun to watch, i believe.. except that they probably will have no chance of winning if they are up against the all-stars.

Hence my stand is that the teams chosen have to be BOTH MEMORABLE and COMPETITIVE. Very competitive in fact. The reason why the first allstar wasn't even that exciting because some of the teams chosen were not even competitive at all. (Teri and Ian, Charla and Mirna wants to be.. but they're not, Danielle, Mary and David, Kevin and Drew..)

And up till now only a few teams fit the criteria and i agree with mswood, you need to have token alpha male teams in the race, but only TWO.