Topic: TAR 17 Speculation

[krabbe]

I just googled "Phil Interview Season 16 Finale" but nothing came up. Sorry. But I remember he said something to the effect of cowboy fans would be dissapointed by the outcome of the race. This interview was done right before the finale.

[Unlaced]

I just googled "Phil Interview Season 16 Finale" but nothing came up. Sorry. But I remember he said something to the effect of cowboy fans would be dissapointed by the outcome of the race. This interview was done right before the finale.

I guess this is the interview you meant:
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Entertainment/20100507/amazing-race-finish-100507/

"Keoghan, who was at the finish line when the show was filmed late last year, would not reveal the winner, of course, but he does believe that the show's fans are rooting for the beloved professional bull riders to win and that the ending isn't necessarily happy for everyone. Keoghan foreshadowed that Upton and Horne are confronted by another team at the mat."


Sorry, but I think you misunderstood what the article says. Phil says he thinks the amazing race fans were going to root for the cowboys AND that the end  was not happy for everyone because Brent & Caite were confronted at the mat.

[Belle Book]

So from Phil's interview on how the express pass affected the entire race, does this mean that Jill/Tom won?

Not necessarily.  It might just mean that Jill & Thomas made the Final 3 because of the Express Pass!  Perhaps Jill & Thomas wouldn't have done so if they hadn't used it.

Belle Book

[AmazingRace]

They had to use the Express Pass by the 8th leg.

[Paron]

Well, the F3 we know about were in a huge lead for a large part of the race from at least Hong Kong and on (maybe even sooner).  Maybe that helped ensure Jill & Thomas would stay with Nat & Kat and Brook & Claire.

[Paron]

So from Phil's interview on how the express pass affected the entire race, does this mean that Jill/Tom won?

?

I hope not.  Or if they did, it'd better not MAINLY be due to it.  Two women's teams make the F3 again, and yet another young couples wins from a twist they probably didn't even need?  That'll make this already-good season suck.

[Jobby]

So from Phil's interview on how the express pass affected the entire race, does this mean that Jill/Tom won?

?

I hope not.  Or if they did, it'd better not MAINLY be due to it.  Two women's teams make the F3 again, and yet another young couples wins from a twist they probably didn't even need?  That'll make this already-good season suck.

Again, you have to use the pass by Leg 8.

[Plaidmoon]

So from Phil's interview on how the express pass affected the entire race, does this mean that Jill/Tom won?

?

I hope not.  Or if they did, it'd better not MAINLY be due to it.  Two women's teams make the F3 again, and yet another young couples wins from a twist they probably didn't even need?  That'll make this already-good season suck.

Again, you have to use the pass by Leg 8.

If Jill/Thomas use the Express Pass on leg 7 or 8 and get a big lead, it will surely be temporary. There will certainly be a bunching point shortly thereafter and everyone will be back on equal ground long before we get to the final leg. The Express Pass will not be the deciding factor as to who wins the race. At most, it could keep Jill/Thomas from being eliminated on an early leg, but they will still have to prove themselves worthy over the remaining legs of the race.

[tarobbsessed24]

hi im new but i dont know if this is worth anything but i was looking at kevjumba's  vid on Tar
and i saw a comment that was marked as spam that said

I saw you when you was in Sweden 

[AmazingRace]

Welcome tarobbsessed24!  

[georgiapeach]

hi im new but i dont know if this is worth anything but i was looking at kevjumba's  vid on Tar
and i saw a comment that was marked as spam that said

I saw you when you was in Sweden 

to RFF!

I think you may be on to something here...following up!

Thanks!!!

[Hooky]

Well, the F3 we know about were in a huge lead for a large part of the race from at least Hong Kong and on (maybe even sooner).  Maybe that helped ensure Jill & Thomas would stay with Nat & Kat and Brook & Claire.

I don't think the final 3 will get way far ahead, at least not way early. The producers have largely made such a thing impossible with the way the flights are arranged. I suppose it could happen if the 4th place team decided to quit on the non-elimination leg, but why would you quit if you're in the Final 4?

I think that the fourth place team was with the other three, but somehow we missed a team in our sightings. They wouldn't have to be days behind for such a thing to happen: remember how originally we had no sightings of Kisha & Jen beyond, what was it...Leg 2? But despite the "odds", Kisha & Jen somehow made it to 4th place. We could have another "missed" team scenario here - "last seen" doesn't necessarily mean that was the last time the team was in the race.

EDIT: Turns out it was confirmed that on Leg 11 there was a team hours behind. But we still don't have any real clues to the identity of our 4th place team.

[kadilahopper]

If I am not mistaken, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am, :<), but at  the beginning of the race did not Phil say that the express pass could be used "AT ANY TIME during the race to skip a task"?  Ok snooper scoopers, scoop this one out for me. I would love to know. 

[Competitor]

If I am not mistaken, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am, :<), but at  the beginning of the race did not Phil say that the express pass could be used "AT ANY TIME during the race to skip a task"?  Ok snooper scoopers, scoop this one out for me. I would love to know. 

I'm pretty sure that he later said that it could be used anytime on the first 8 legs of the race or something like that.

[georgiapeach]

First 8 legs only.

[DrRox]

First Phill said this just before the start of the race in general terms about the new twist.

If I am not mistaken, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am, :<), but at  the beginning of the race did not Phil say that the express pass could be used "AT ANY TIME during the race to skip a task"?  Ok snooper scoopers, scoop this one out for me. I would love to know. 

Then at the mat, when he gave the pass to Jill/Thomas, Phill said this.

First 8 legs only.

Phil was much more specific at the mat.

[maf]

My memory of the first leg matches what DrRox stated above.

My take is that they can use it any time during the first 8 legs. That is they can use it just before starting a task or during the task. Where the latter part makes it much more useful. The fact that you can start a task and when you realize how time-consuming or hard it is you can decide to skip this one.

The game-changing aspect is that it is a way to get people to really try to win the first leg. Previously most teams seem to focus on just surviving the first leg. This is a way to get a bit more edge into the start of the race.

[2old4tech]

Just speculating.  If Stonehenge is part of Bert's TAR 17 theme,  look for this either tonight or next week.

[Caelestor]

Larabanga is 8 hours from Accra, though.

[Paron]

hi im new but i dont know if this is worth anything but i was looking at kevjumba's  vid on Tar
and i saw a comment that was marked as spam that said

I saw you when you was in Sweden 

to RFF!

I think you may be on to something here...following up!

Thanks!!!

I thought we already knew the race was going to Sweden.

. . . Oh!  Wait!  This means they at least survive to that!  Man, I was slow on the uptake there.

[Kaylynn]

I read online that has speculation for the Final 3.
The blog's speculation has it like this
*************Possible Spoilers**************
Bottom 4
11th-Ron/Tony
10th-Andie/Jenna
?-Chad/Stephanie
?- Nick/Vicky

7th Place to 4th Place
? Gary/Mallory
? Kevin/Michael
? Katie/Rachel
? Connor/Jonathan

And Possible F3
Nat/Kat
Clare/Brook
Jill/Thomas

************************ended***************

is it me or do Nick and Vicky feel like Kami/Karli slipping in 2nd to last every round?

[Kaylynn]

Well, the F3 we know about were in a huge lead for a large part of the race from at least Hong Kong and on (maybe even sooner).  Maybe that helped ensure Jill & Thomas would stay with Nat & Kat and Brook & Claire.

I don't think the final 3 will get way far ahead, at least not way early. The producers have largely made such a thing impossible with the way the flights are arranged. I suppose it could happen if the 4th place team decided to quit on the non-elimination leg, but why would you quit if you're in the Final 4?

I think that the fourth place team was with the other three, but somehow we missed a team in our sightings. They wouldn't have to be days behind for such a thing to happen: remember how originally we had no sightings of Kisha & Jen beyond, what was it...Leg 2? But despite the "odds", Kisha & Jen somehow made it to 4th place. We could have another "missed" team scenario here - "last seen" doesn't necessarily mean that was the last time the team was in the race.

EDIT: Turns out it was confirmed that on Leg 11 there was a team hours behind. But we still don't have any real clues to the identity of our 4th place team.

do you have a confirmation link or something?

[redskevin88]

I read online that has speculation for the Final 3.
The blog's speculation has it like this
*************Possible Spoilers**************
Bottom 4
11th-Ron/Tony
10th-Andie/Jenna
?-Chad/Stephanie
?- Nick/Vicky

7th Place to 4th Place
? Gary/Mallory
? Kevin/Michael
? Katie/Rachel
? Connor/Jonathan

And Possible F3
Nat/Kat
Clare/Brook
Jill/Thomas

************************ended***************

is it me or do Nick and Vicky feel like Kami/Karli slipping in 2nd to last every round?

You can keep up to dateon what we believe here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21999.0.html

I thought it was likely this???

11th: Ron & Tony
10th: Andie & Jenna
9th: Chad & Stephanie
8th: Gary & Mallory
7th: Katie & Rachel or Michael & Kevin
6th: Michael & Kevin or Katie & Rachel
5th: Nick & Vicki (decoy in Korea, they are hours behind, so must be decoy)
4th: Connor & Jonathan
Final three: Nat/Kat, Brook & Claire/Jill & Thomas

[Plaidmoon]

I read online that has speculation for the Final 3.
The blog's speculation has it like this
*************Possible Spoilers**************
Bottom 4
11th-Ron/Tony
10th-Andie/Jenna
?-Chad/Stephanie
?- Nick/Vicky

7th Place to 4th Place
? Gary/Mallory
? Kevin/Michael
? Katie/Rachel
? Connor/Jonathan

And Possible F3
Nat/Kat
Clare/Brook
Jill/Thomas

************************ended***************

is it me or do Nick and Vicky feel like Kami/Karli slipping in 2nd to last every round?

You can keep up to dateon what we believe here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21999.0.html

I thought it was likely this???

11th: Ron & Tony
10th: Andie & Jenna
9th: Chad & Stephanie
8th: Gary & Mallory
7th: Katie & Rachel or Katie & Rachel
6th: Michael & Kevin or Katie & Rachel
5th: Nick & Vicki (decoy in Korea, they are hours behind, so must be decoy)
4th: Connor & Jonathan
Final three: Nat/Kat, Brook & Claire/Jill & Thomas

7th: Katie & Rachel or Katie & Rachel

Maybe it'll be Rachel & Katie?    

I assume you meant:

7th: Michael & Kevin or Katie & Rachel

It mildly astounds me that Nick & Vicky make it all the way to 5th. Shades of Dan and Andrew! I've looked but can't find the details about the Nick & Vicky sighting in South Korea. How solid is that information?

[north09]

I read online that has speculation for the Final 3.
The blog's speculation has it like this
*************Possible Spoilers**************
Bottom 4
11th-Ron/Tony
10th-Andie/Jenna
?-Chad/Stephanie
?- Nick/Vicky

7th Place to 4th Place
? Gary/Mallory
? Kevin/Michael
? Katie/Rachel
? Connor/Jonathan

And Possible F3
Nat/Kat
Clare/Brook
Jill/Thomas

************************ended***************

is it me or do Nick and Vicky feel like Kami/Karli slipping in 2nd to last every round?

You can keep up to dateon what we believe here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21999.0.html

I thought it was likely this???

11th: Ron & Tony
10th: Andie & Jenna
9th: Chad & Stephanie
8th: Gary & Mallory
7th: Katie & Rachel or Katie & Rachel
6th: Michael & Kevin or Katie & Rachel
5th: Nick & Vicki (decoy in Korea, they are hours behind, so must be decoy)
4th: Connor & Jonathan
Final three: Nat/Kat, Brook & Claire/Jill & Thomas

7th: Katie & Rachel or Katie & Rachel

Maybe it'll be Rachel & Katie?    

I assume you meant:

7th: Michael & Kevin or Katie & Rachel

It mildly astounds me that Nick & Vicky make it all the way to 5th. Shades of Dan and Andrew! I've looked but can't find the details about the Nick & Vicky sighting in South Korea. How solid is that information?

Not very solid, as far as I know. What shocks me is that before the race, no one really put that much faith into the sighting, and now we have a lot of people believing they make it far. I still believe they are the next to go. Since this episode is now over, it doesn't do any harm to point out that as of now, the projected results look like this:

11. Ron & Tony
10. Andrea & Jenna
9. Nick & Vicki
8. Connor & Jonathan or Katie & Rachel
7. Katie & Rachel or Connor & Jonathan
6. Gary & Mallory
5. Michael & Kevin
4. Chad & Stephanie

Final 3 (In No Order)
Brook & Claire, Jill & Thomas, Nat & Kat