Topic: Speculation on TAR16 *no wish-lists please*

[Boingo]

OK, wasn't sure of their exact arrival time, but according to you the losers arrived in the evening, probably Friday 18th... which makes it possible for a 19th finale.  Makes sense.  Nevermind.   

[puddin]

Wait, why am I so happy?  Louie & Mike 

[kristin626]

So with the pictures of Mike/Louie (the detectives) arriving at SFO with production and not appearing to be racing, do we think the Singapore shots are real or decoy?

[puddin]

So with the pictures of Mike/Louie (the detectives) arriving at SFO with production and not appearing to be racing, do we think the Singapore shots are real or decoy?

I'd say Singapore they are in race mode  ..
Darn I wanted them to go far!

[RealityFreakWill]

Sorry about that chief!

I thought for sure they would make the final leg 

Any more pictures Chateau and yeah that, they looked like a very strong team 

I thought they would be one of F3....I bet they finished 4th. Until we get more spoilage, I'm gonna take a stab and predict the F3 to be Caitlin/Brent, the frat boys and the cowboys.

[Sailing]

The short hair f/f team could be final 3 as well.

[Kiwi Jay]

Short haired Females were spotted in F4 along with Cowboys, Michael and Louis and Brent and Caitlin so that must mean that Frat Boys finish 5th

[puddin]

yup looking like the females -- cowboys -- Brentlin might be our final 3

[rstevens]

yup looking like the females -- cowboys -- Brentlin might be our final 3

  But didnt the picture show cowboys not racing? Im confused

[Sailing]

yup looking like the females -- cowboys -- Brentlin might be our final 3

  But didnt the picture show cowboys not racing? Im confused

The Cowboys were spotted at the San Fran airport on the 20th. Someone tweeted about them racing for a cab I believe.

[puddin]

yup looking like the females -- cowboys -- Brentlin might be our final 3

  But didnt the picture show cowboys not racing? Im confused

No photos I know of  ? The detectives yes, Cowboys no if that helps?

[rstevens]

yup looking like the females -- cowboys -- Brentlin might be our final 3

  But didnt the picture show cowboys not racing? Im confused

No photos I know of  ? The detectives yes, Cowboys no if that helps?

LOL I thought Mike and Louis were the cowboys.  Nevermind

[Kiwi Jay]

They're the 'detectives' haha.

[puddin]

Short haired Females were spotted in F4 along with Cowboys, Michael and Louis and Brent and Caitlin so that must mean that Frat Boys finish 5th

Wait, where were the Cowboys spotted in the final 4? I thought final 3? Which could possibly make them decoys right?

wow we are way off topic 

fixed ..........

[Kiwi Jay]

Apparently they were rushing into a cab (rings out F3, I hope haha)

[Glamazon Racer]

yup looking like the females -- cowboys -- Brentlin might be our final 3

  But didnt the picture show cowboys not racing? Im confused

No photos I know of  ? The detectives yes, Cowboys no if that helps?

LOL I thought Mike and Louis were the cowboys.  Nevermind

LOL, I was thinking the same thing until two days ago!

[puddin]

Apparently they were rushing into a cab (rings out F3, I hope haha)

Remember the video of Matt and Gary rushing around Vegas and into a cab? You just never can be sure right?

video link

[Plaidmoon]

I did do a search on McLaren Park. It's the second largest park in San Francisco at 317 acres, so it's reasonably good sized. I saw pictures of a pretty little lake and a striking 700 seat amphitheater, the Jerry Garcia Amphitheater, so it has possibilities. It also has a 9 hole golf course, for what it's worth. I'd post the pictures, but they were just thumbnails. I'm out of time for further searching this morning, so I'll leave it for others to do more digging if so inclined.

Plaidmoon

No use scratching your head over this when there is a simpler solution.  Sounds like you are a local, so an actual visit to the locations in question could answer some questions.  If anyones up to scouting the "not so nice" neighborhood of Hunter's Point, and ask a few questions of the people there you may come up with some actual sightings and dates.  Just a thought.  Good luck.

I used to be a local. I grew up in Oakland and lived in the area until I was 35. I moved away in 1997 and have only been back a few times since. I'm just going on my past knowledge and what I'm able to google up. I'm in Oregon these days and a trip to back to San Francisco isn't very likely before TAR 16 airs. My wife thinks I'm nuts to be wasting my free time on TAR detective work. I don't think she'd approve of me flying down for a few days to nose about around Hunters Point.    I'm not that obsessed anyhow. Thank goodness.

Plaidmoon

[georgiapeach]

Thank goodness SOME of us are.

[Chateau d If]

If I were WRP I would send out different sets of decoys in each of the final cities and on many different days.  

But I would not send them out with checked-bag tags still in place  

 

[Belle Book]

yup looking like the females -- cowboys -- Brentlin might be our final 3

Well, at least I can hope that an all-female team wins -- even if it's not the one I would like to see win.

Belle Book

[Kiwi Jay]

They're probably great women!

[Benedicto]

I wish Jordeff got back in a twist... 

[Plaidmoon]

With BIG thanks to TrebledTimes at TWoP for this elaboration on his original sighting on 12/20 in San Fran: (He was linked to our photos for comparisons)

What I can say with 100% certainty was that it was noon PST at the corner of Larkin and California Streets. What I saw were two large guys wearing navy blue fleeces or jackets carrying what looked like a large locked trunk. I was across the street and they were facing the other direction. I'm not sure I could even hazard a guess based on those photos, although I would say with 90% certainty they were wearing navy blue. And the film crew were quite agro (they nearly knocked me over, which is why I noticed what they were doing) which leads me to believe it was actual footage they were after.

The Professional Bull Riders web site http://pbrnow.com lists Cord McCoy as 5'9"" and 150 pounds. From the picture I saw of Jet and Cord together, they are about the same size. Since TrebledTimes says the two guys he saw were large, I think that rules out the McCoys. My guess is that it is Mike and Louie.

I've been pondering where they would have been heading with a trunk in that neighborhood going from the Great American Music Hall to that intersection and I'm stumped. My first thought was that if they head west on California, they could be going to one of the historic old hotels on Nob Hill, a steep uphill climb of 5 to 6 blocks from there. However, I can't think of a good cover story reason for doing that as a task.

"Bellhop or Cable Drop. In old San Francisco, bellhops frequently had to carry entertainers luggage from the nightclub to their hotel. Alternately, San Francisco fireman have to be able to lower themselves down the sides of buildings on a rope. Your detour is to either haul luggage from the Great American Music hall to the Fairmont Hotel or to rappel down the side of Coit Tower."

That doesn't sound like final leg material to me. If the two guys with a trunk were running a decoy leg then they could have just been going in a random course to confuse people like us.

Plaidmoon

[georgiapeach]

It is the aggressive film crew that is stumping me...by that time they are usually telling their team to slow down, lol....

Love the spec Detour though!!