Author Topic: American Idol Final 4 Pre-Performance Discussion (Read 12849 times)

Jobby · « **on:** May 04, 2009, 05:59:27 AM »

It's a pre-performance discussion because i just found out the new VFTW pick is Danny Gokey! Shocker. They probably figured that they have to start picking someone who could actually last.. Tatiana, Norman, Scott, Lil and Matt or went after one round, only Megan stayed on for 3 weeks. So i figured they think Danny and Adam would be the final 2, and they could at least have him as their pick for another 3 weeks and stop changing picks. Something like how they chose David Archuleta as their pick last season.

But i'm just so glad it isn't Allison. Phew!

ImANewUser · « **Reply #1 on:** May 04, 2009, 08:08:42 AM »

At this point, I think it'd be better for Allison to get the VFTW votes. I mean, she already has a solid fanbase. Why not get the haters to vote for her as well?

Jobby · « **Reply #2 on:** May 04, 2009, 10:35:22 AM »

Quote from: Raymond on May 04, 2009, 08:08:42 AM

At this point, I think it'd be better for Allison to get the VFTW votes. I mean, she already has a solid fanbase. Why not get the haters to vote for her as well?

I don't think so. VFTW isn't influential anymore. They're getting more and more annoying and whoever they picked for, America would hope that the person doesn't make it through to make them fail. I am actually happier VFTW pick is Gokey.. it gives me hope that Allison could be in the F2.

Ruth · « **Reply #3 on:** May 04, 2009, 11:21:15 AM »

Lol! That's quite an interesting pick by VFTW. Danny?? But hopefully, as Joab says, this spells that he may not make the finale. Adam and Allison for the final two!!!!!!

tory · « **Reply #4 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:37:59 PM »

i think it is an oxiemoron if vftw is voteing for the best

ImANewUser · « **Reply #5 on:** May 04, 2009, 11:01:22 PM »

Quote from: Joab on May 04, 2009, 10:35:22 AM

Quote from: Raymond on May 04, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
At this point, I think it'd be better for Allison to get the VFTW votes. I mean, she already has a solid fanbase. Why not get the haters to vote for her as well?

I don't think so. VFTW isn't influential anymore. They're getting more and more annoying and whoever they picked for, America would hope that the person doesn't make it through to make them fail. I am actually happier VFTW pick is Gokey.. it gives me hope that Allison could be in the F2.

I'm not really happy that the pick is Danny, since I don't really think what VFTW votes for will affect who America votes for if who they're voting for is actually good. Having said that, I want Danny out of that Final 4 ASAP. Kris/Allison/Adam F3 for me.

Jobby · « **Reply #6 on:** May 05, 2009, 01:05:38 AM »

Quote from: Raymond on May 04, 2009, 11:01:22 PM

Quote from: Joab on May 04, 2009, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Raymond on May 04, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
At this point, I think it'd be better for Allison to get the VFTW votes. I mean, she already has a solid fanbase. Why not get the haters to vote for her as well?

I don't think so. VFTW isn't influential anymore. They're getting more and more annoying and whoever they picked for, America would hope that the person doesn't make it through to make them fail. I am actually happier VFTW pick is Gokey.. it gives me hope that Allison could be in the F2.

I'm not really happy that the pick is Danny, since I don't really think what VFTW votes for will affect who America votes for if who they're voting for is actually good. Having said that, I want Danny out of that Final 4 ASAP. Kris/Allison/Adam F3 for me.

Count me in!

tory · « **Reply #7 on:** May 05, 2009, 11:20:06 AM »

DANNY FOR THE WINNNNNNN!!!!!!

Ruth · « **Reply #8 on:** May 05, 2009, 12:48:17 PM »

Quote from: Joab on May 05, 2009, 01:05:38 AM

Quote from: Raymond on May 04, 2009, 11:01:22 PM
Quote from: Joab on May 04, 2009, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Raymond on May 04, 2009, 08:08:42 AM
At this point, I think it'd be better for Allison to get the VFTW votes. I mean, she already has a solid fanbase. Why not get the haters to vote for her as well?

I don't think so. VFTW isn't influential anymore. They're getting more and more annoying and whoever they picked for, America would hope that the person doesn't make it through to make them fail. I am actually happier VFTW pick is Gokey.. it gives me hope that Allison could be in the F2.

I'm not really happy that the pick is Danny, since I don't really think what VFTW votes for will affect who America votes for if who they're voting for is actually good. Having said that, I want Danny out of that Final 4 ASAP. Kris/Allison/Adam F3 for me.

And me! But I don't mind if Danny makes the final three but misses the final two. Cos ultimately, the final two is the most important.

Count me in!

TexasLady · « **Reply #9 on:** May 05, 2009, 03:36:37 PM »

I was shocked last week with Adam in the bottom 3. At this point I don't know who will make it the final 2 now, I thought it would be Danny and Adam. Maybe I'll have a better feel after tonight's show.

I wonder what Allison will choose to sing tonight. This should be her night to shine.

About VFTW, I'm glad they are retreating to nothingness, they are the worst. I hate for anyone to be their VFTW target.

Snooky · « **Reply #10 on:** May 05, 2009, 07:29:18 PM »

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I thought it would be Danny and Adam.

I have thought that since the beginning of the finals, and I am still predicting that to happen!

TexasLady · « **Reply #11 on:** May 05, 2009, 08:45:38 PM »

Here's a little spoiler for those of you who haven't seen the show tonight and additional information for those who have seen the show. It was worse than we knew.

May 5 2009 8:56 PM EDT
'American Idol' Rehearsal Canceled After Injury, Raining Glass
Stage manager was rushed to the hospital following a mishap on the staircase.

By Gil Kaufman

As if performance night for the "American Idol" top four weren't dramatic enough, just hours before Adam Lambert, Kris Allen, Danny Gokey and Allison Iraheta took the stage in Los Angeles, TMZ reported that stage manager Debbie Williams was injured in a mishap on the show's giant staircase during dress rehearsal.

The staircase, which is supposed to retract as host Ryan Seacrest walks down it, reportedly folded too soon on Tuesday afternoon (May 5), and Williams, who was following Seacrest, tried to hold on but instead tumbled down the stairs. She suffered what was described as a "nasty gash" on her leg and was taken to a local hospital.

"We have had an unconventional day," Seacrest said at the top of Tuesday night's show. "Had a couple of things happen here on this set. Unfortunately we had an accident earlier here on our stage, but it didn't end there."

In addition to the mishap that befell Williams, Seacrest pointed to the two giant globe-like "Idol" logos that flank the stage, one of which was hanging nearly upside down. He said it "collapsed" just a few moments before that afternoon's dress rehearsal, sending shards of glass all over the stage, with TMZ reporting that the studio was cleared as a mild panic ensued. "So the contestants have not had a proper run-through for the show," he said. "But as they say in Hollywood, the show must go on."

Source: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1610707/20090505/story.jhtml

Snooky · « **Reply #12 on:** May 05, 2009, 09:43:06 PM »

Wow! Allison and Danny did well tonight!

ImANewUser · « **Reply #13 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:58:11 AM »

Kris is doomed. And I hate it.

It's like nothing's going my way. Just wait for Teyona to go, Annie to lose & Coach & Debbie be the Final 2.

On the other hand, the Adam & Allison did great tonight and if any of 'em are in the Bottom 2, then I'll be shocked.

TexasLady · « **Reply #14 on:** May 06, 2009, 07:10:42 AM »

Quote from: Raymond on May 06, 2009, 05:58:11 AM

Kris is doomed. And I hate it. It's like nothing's going my way. Just wait for Teyona to go, Annie to lose & Coach & Debbie be the Final 2.

On the other hand, the Adam & Allison did great tonight and if any of 'em are in the Bottom 2, then I'll be shocked.

This has been one of the strongest seasons yet and they all did well last night. I feel for ya Raymond, no one I like ever wins. (Coach! BLAH! Annie will win..)

It well could be that Allison's duet with Adam pulls her through because they were great together. I like that every week she improves as a performer. I don't get all the criticism they pile on her. (Loved that she is finally doing more with her hair, it looks so much better!)

Sadly, I think Kris might be going home tonight, DialIdol has him third and Allison fourth but they have all but Adam vulnerable. (And their accuracy hasn't been as good this year.)

bag · « **Reply #15 on:** May 06, 2009, 07:28:14 AM »

Quote from: Raymond on May 06, 2009, 05:58:11 AM

Kris is doomed. And I hate it. It's like nothing's going my way. Just wait for Teyona to go, Annie to lose & Coach & Debbie be the Final 2.

Teyona is going to win, there is no way she can lose (and I don't even like her). You know this.

Annie is going to win. Coach & Debbie are going to lose eventually.

That said, after getting into the whole "I'm actually watching American Idol because there's only four people left now" phase, Kris IS doomed.

And I agree, Allison is just so lovely to watch. <3 I think Adam is a tad overrated, but is still really good. I feel meh about Danny.

Ruth · « **Reply #16 on:** May 06, 2009, 11:08:58 AM »

Can't say this was a great night for everyone but well, Rock and Roll will always be tricky for several contestants. They all gave their best, that's most important.

Adam Lambert - WOW when Simon predicted that no one was gonna top his performance (which was correct). I just love how week after week he comes out and totally OWNS the stage. That didn't feel like American Idol, it felt like Adam Lambert's very own concert. He totally dominated the stage, loved the performance!

Allison Iraheta - Yeah I didn't love the song choice, never been a fan of songs that revolve around the same lyrics over and over again. But I still love her heart and please America, please vote for her!

Adam and Allison's duet: One BLAZING HOT performance. Come on, these two OWNED THE STAGE! They sang so well together, I totally agree that they should have more duets. But you know, I have a horrid feeling that Adam's female fans could hate Allison cos of this. You know, they were so pal-ly and all, we could smell some jealousy. Lol.

Kris Allen - Totally not his genre and there's only so much he can do. I still give him credit for doing his best, doing what he can. Well, he sounded decent. Not impressive, but it was alright.

Danny Gokey - It was alright until that excruciating scream at the back which killed the whole song IMO. What's more, he didn't have the edge to do such a song, he was just cruising through. But it's not his genre, once again, give him credit for doing his very best.

Kris and Danny's duet: Umm, didn't blow me away. It was steady, and just decent.

My ranking:
1. Adam Lambert
2. Allison Iraheta
3. Kris Allen
4. Danny Gokey

Probably Allison and Kris in the bottom two, and I HOPE HOPE HOPE Kris goes. Not Allison, please!

Firefly · « **Reply #17 on:** May 06, 2009, 04:22:18 PM »

Kris wasn't bad at all in either the duet or his solo. In the duet, it really seemed like Danny was trying to get louder during the song to try to show up Kris. And Danny's last note killed his entire solo. I can still hear that scream echoing through the sky. I hope he watched it back last night and realized how bad it really was. And Slash nailed it when he said that the last note could make or break his performance.

Adam and Allison showed how to really put together a duet. Neither one of them tried to show each other up and they complemented each other perfectly. Danny is too loud and Kris is more of a softer singer. While Renegade is an awesome song, they really should have gone another direction that could allowed both of them to play to their strengths.

Snooky · « **Reply #18 on:** May 06, 2009, 04:28:22 PM »

I think that all of them did very well last night! But I think Kris is gone for sure!

TexasLady · « **Reply #19 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:12:12 PM »

On several sites Danny is getting a bad rap, videos and mp3's of the scream played over and over from the final few seconds of his song which was taped for the end of the show. I just found this in LA Times review of last night's show.

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...With six minutes to go, each remaining Idol was rushed across the stage to perform 15 seconds of a number for use in the closing videos. As the judges raced to their chairs with minutes to spare, there certainly was an air of chaos, with tension tuned to a fever pitch.   

Source: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/05/the-rushfield-review-chaos-in-the-idoldome-chaos-in-the-competition.html

This is gonna hurt, it's never good to become a joke. I guess it's one of the unexpected things that happen and lives on forever.

ETA: Danny addressed it head on tonight on the show and made a joke of it. Good for him.

TexasLady · « **Reply #20 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:16:22 PM »

More on the accident last night:

Chaotic Scene Unfolds at American Idol
May 5, 2009

Rock Night got off to a very rocky start on American Idol Tuesday when, less than two hours before the live performance show, stage manager Debbie Williams fell from the lighted retractable staircase when it moved too quickly. One of the large towers on the show’s set inside CBS Television City studios also toppled over, leaving shattered glass all over the stage.

FOX, FreemantleMedia North America and 19 Entertainment released a joint statement, saying, “During rehearsal today a crew member had a mishap on set and was immediately taken to the hospital as a precautionary measure. We have no further information at this time.”

But a crewmember tells PEOPLE, Williams suffered a “very deep gash down to the bone” in one leg that required stitches. Williams, who’s Idol host Ryan Seacrest’s right-hand at the show and who keeps the live telecasts humming along, “will probably be back here tomorrow,” the staffer joked.

Just after the broadcast wrapped, Seacrest posted to his Twitter page, saying Williams “is doing much better.”

Viewers will remember Debbie the stage manager from last year’s Idol Gives Back special at the Kodak Theater. She made a rare, on-camera appearance to help Brad Pitt with his microphone.

No other injuries were reported and the show went on without a hitch — on the air. In a chaotic scene just before showtime, however, audience members were not allowed into the studio until 20 minutes before show went live. Staff at the show tried to seat the crowd as quickly as possible, yelling, “Ignore your tickets. Just grab a seat wherever you can!”

With just minutes to spare, the four remaining Idol contestants — Adam Lambert, Allison Iraheta, Danny Gokey and Kris Allen — were brought out to sing 30-second snippets of their songs. The pre-taped segment, a regular part of the show’s production schedule, airs during the performance recap at the end of the night. The segments wrapped two minutes before the live show began.

By the time the show ended, Idol’s light-up staircase was secured. In fact, Gwen Stefani walked down the setpiece while singing “Just a Girl” for a pre-taped performance set to air Wednesday on the results show. – Monica Rizzo and Shawna Malcom

Source: http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/05/05/chaotic-scene-unfolds-at-american-idol/

Snooky · « **Reply #21 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:20:32 PM »

Wow! Looks like American Idol had a tough night last night!

RealityFreakWill · « **Reply #22 on:** May 06, 2009, 09:23:20 PM »

Tonight's result show was done in random order....

First announced safe and advancing to the final 3 and gets to go home for the hometown parade is...

KRIS ALLEN!

About fifteen minutes later, the remaining three returned to center stage and the second person announced safe and is in the final three and goes home for the parade is...

ADAM LAMBERT!

At the final five minutes of the show, the third and final contestant safe, advancing to the final 3 and goes home for the hometown parade is...

DANNY GOKEY!

Finishing at fourth place and the ninth contestant eliminated is...

ALLISON IRAHETA!

ImANewUser · « **Reply #23 on:** May 06, 2009, 10:16:23 PM »

That sucked SO bad.

I know I was saddened Kris was VERY much in danger, but at least I expected it. This was just SO heartbreaking. I would probably cry upon rerun.

Ruth · « **Reply #24 on:** May 07, 2009, 11:03:23 AM »

Terrible results. I already told myself not to be surprised if Allison gets eliminated (I mean, she's always been at the risk of elimination so it won't be surprising) but that didn't alleviate my disappointment one bit. Really had hopes of her making the final two but now it's a guy-guy finale, maybe even back to Adam and Danny again. Ahhhhh. =(

Snooky · « **Reply #25 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:29:34 PM »

Dang! Why did she have to go? Well, I guess we have a final three of guys! Which is the first time in history.

TexasLady · « **Reply #26 on:** May 07, 2009, 06:05:14 PM »

Quote from: Ruth on May 07, 2009, 11:03:23 AM

Terrible results. I already told myself not to be surprised if Allison gets eliminated (I mean, she's always been at the risk of elimination so it won't be surprising) but that didn't alleviate my disappointment one bit. Really had hopes of her making the final two but now it's a guy-guy finale, maybe even back to Adam and Danny again. Ahhhhh. =(

I was really surprised, I thought for certain Kris would be eliminated or perhaps Danny because of the screech at the end. I'm sorry to see Allison go. However she will do extremely well. As a friend said, she can graduate high school, with lots of opportunity waiting for her.

Snooky, I didn't realize that this was a record, a 3 guy final three!!! You're right!

ImANewUser · « **Reply #27 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:04:32 PM »

That still doesn't beat the all-female Final 4 in Season 3.

And now, after getting over Allison's loss, I am okay with any Final 2 combo.

RudyRules · « **Reply #28 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:05:17 PM »

Quote from: TexasLady on May 07, 2009, 06:05:14 PM

Quote from: Ruth on May 07, 2009, 11:03:23 AM
Terrible results. I already told myself not to be surprised if Allison gets eliminated (I mean, she's always been at the risk of elimination so it won't be surprising) but that didn't alleviate my disappointment one bit. Really had hopes of her making the final two but now it's a guy-guy finale, maybe even back to Adam and Danny again. Ahhhhh. =(

I was really surprised, I thought for certain Kris would be eliminated or perhaps Danny because of the screech at the end. I'm sorry to see Allison go. However she will do extremely well. As a friend said, she can graduate high school, with lots of opportunity waiting for her.
Snooky, I didn't realize that this was a record, a 3 guy final three!!! You're right!

Me too...surprised Allison is gone. I threw her ALL my votes for the last two weeks. Sad to see her go, but like you say, TL, lotsa opportunity awaiting her. She is great!
Was hoping for a Adam/Allison F2.

However, I'm really happy Kris has made it so far! He's been one of my favs (Danny also)...from way back. I predicted in the "Last2Left" game, a Danny/Adam win in that order as did lots of other players!
Hope it ends up being Adam b/c he just seems the BEST, imo.

I wish Allison and whoever loses in the F3...LOTS of good luck with their musical careers!

Jobby · « **Reply #29 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:52:43 PM »

I'm really sad Allison went.

And she went with her head held high!!

I don't think Kris deserves to be in the top 3, and i was shocked he's in the top 3 because.. i don't think he has that many fans!!

Now i don't think i'll look forward to AI anymore..

tory · « **Reply #30 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:46:54 AM »

my dream team f-3 i was hopeing kris would stay.. i love his gental spirt when he sings it is in key in tune and good. i love loved there duet his and dannys way more than allison and adam,s there harmonies were awsome , also after the stage fell apart the band had to b moved on stage and kris and danny could not here them self's u could see it on there faces they had no idea how they did probley till they got to here it bk after the show. they were doing a song together on the spot in front of millions of ppl. as for adam and allisons duett i did not think it was fablous,jmo i hated what adam was wereing those pants and boots were way to distrating and it was he sing her sing thing not like what kris and danny did where they sang together, and to me was the best part of there song there harmonies omg. i down loaded it on i tunes

i do think adam was the best of the night by miles and he wa realy cute and humble about it i realy have grown to love adam, with that said i realy think still that they pimped him to get a record number of votes this week, jmo putting him in the bottom 3 put his fans into a voteing frenzey, it went from 47 mil votes last week to 60 mill this week huummm quite a jump..
to the alison fans i no how u feel my chris rich went home one week shy of a paraide, but we had one here for him it was awsome, the only thing is that he was not allowed to sing bc of idol rules, but it was an awsome day we had the mayor and all..
then they go right bk to rehersel for the finaly and then go on tour, so u will get to see her on the fianaly ng. and if u go to the concert. they r not coming here this yr this is a frist allso. they have allways come here on the road tour?? but we did not make the cut this yr. oh well..i have my ipod vids yea!!!!

TexasLady · « **Reply #31 on:** May 08, 2009, 11:00:34 AM »

I agree with you Joab, it's as if the show was in being filmed in color and all of a sudden we are left with black and white.

Sometimes it's better if you don't win AI, look at the careers of Jennifer Hudson and Chris Daughtry, they have done extremely well without winning the top prize.

Tory, you make a good point about the result of the accident on stage! My hubby and I felt like the band was overpowering the singers, all of them. I didn't think about that but upon reflection, it well could be that they couldn't adjust the acoustics, they didn't have time.

tory · « **Reply #32 on:** May 08, 2009, 12:00:51 PM »

no time at all if they had to move the band down and if u notice sence danny and kris were frist to do duett the band was praticaly on top of them, by the time adam and alison did thers the band had been moved bk a lot. so if danny and kris have the band on top of them they can;t here them selfs trew any of the monitors it takes like at the very least a 1 hr sound check just for the band befor u do a show, so no sound check that means the monators on stage that the band/singers here so they can hear what they sound like are all out of wack, and even at my church our drummer is in a sound proff pleix glass thing so add drumms to an allready realy big mess and i am shocked they could do any thing that is the expresion they had on there faces we have no idea how we sounded or what just happened.
and props to the sound guys for making as good as it was, by the time allsion and adam took the stage there were severl commercials breaks to make things on stage better. like moveing the band bk.was huge..
oh and i did love the way danny made fun of his own night mare of a screaming note/ was that even singing. omg he said ppl were making ring tones out of it and not in a good way.

Jobby · « **Reply #33 on:** May 08, 2009, 02:57:27 PM »

Quote from: TexasLady on May 08, 2009, 11:00:34 AM

I agree with you Joab, it's as if the show was in being filmed in color and all of a sudden we are left with black and white.

Sometimes it's better if you don't win AI, look at the careers of Jennifer Hudson and Chris Daughtry, they have done extremely well without winning the top prize.

Tory, you make a good point about the result of the accident on stage! My hubby and I felt like the band was overpowering the singers, all of them. I didn't think about that but upon reflection, it well could be that they couldn't adjust the acoustics, they didn't have time.

Each week i look forward to Allison.. to get me through the week.. now i look forward to... nothing.. nothing.

Hooky · « **Reply #34 on:** May 08, 2009, 06:55:42 PM »

I never post here, but I've been watching the show so I want to finally!

I was happy Allison left last night and very surprised Kris made it onward. I think it's possible Kris could be in the Final 2, if Danny continues his slow downward streak.

I don't like Adam. Generally when one person dominates I don't like them very much. But in this case it's because I predicted him to be in the F2 right from the start, and he is skating on his way there. I hate it when I'm right. But I was scared that for a second it would become an Adam/Allison F2, which would have been annoying. They should get married someday, though!

I was immensely disappointed when David C won over David A last season. I wanted Archie to win so badly.

tory · « **Reply #35 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:04:39 AM »

JOAB SHE WILL BE AT THE FINALY!!! pull u r self together lol...u only have to wait one week to see u r beloved alison again..
hooky i agree with i am glade it is not an adam alison f2.
but i was so happy

david cook won last yr. they both desirved the win for sure but david c. sang one of my fav song and that put me in his corner for the win. all so i have the vid on my ipod of there duet hero from last year gave me goose bumps, they were deff awsome.
i realy loved kris and dannys duet allso last week if the stage had not been a mess it would have been more awsome, jmo i got that one also on ipod. oh and ps if u want i can look up u r st to see if they r comeing near u? u can pm me, if u want i am not a good speller and amdeslix so it would take me hrs to copy it on the other thread for u..

Ruth · « **Reply #36 on:** May 10, 2009, 09:45:07 AM »

Yeah, that joyful feeling of having Season 8 as the best AI season EVER and all of a sudden a real talent like Allison gets the boot and it becomes the most boring final three ever. IMO, at least. Cos I feel that other than Adam who'll probably win if nothing goes wrong, the other two are rather boring. Danny is just a superb singer and nothing beyond that, whereas Kris... I don't know. I don't think he really deserves the final three (compared to Allison that is), but I guess it's cool to see an underdog go so far. Still feeling sad over Allison's elimination, but at least there's still Adam. And he'd better win.

I'm thinking, since Ryan announced the contestants who were safe in no particular order, Kris and Allison were probably our bottom two. That's what I think. And if Kris makes the final two, that's gonna be really cool.

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