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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #200 on: November 26, 2008, 02:15:03 PM »
Not much sun is shining in Moscow this leg!

The rain was all done by 11:40 am according to this shot (it was taken in May 13th).  It was dry when they started the Speed Bump and there is a shot of wet pavement during the dance.

I can't believe that is Dandrew behind Toni.  Not because of 'looks like' or 'does not look like' but just because I know they have to get from Sokolniki Park down to the Sculpture Garden before going to the House of Bulgakov.
And if its part of the Roadblock, shouldn't Dan be doing it? Andrew can't do anymore right? and if it is Dan why is he just standing there?

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #201 on: November 26, 2008, 02:24:14 PM »
I am sorry. I didn't mean to imply he would be on a private jet. I meant that he would be going commerical. He just would be traveling alone or possibly with one asst. He would have to leave after the last team to arrive at the mat and with Dandrew......who knows when that will be. I was thinking it would have to be later in the evening....after 6 pm to even leave the pit stop to head to the airport in Moscow.

I am not sure I articulated my point properly. With only one exception(see below) flights from Moscow will not reach Portland if leaving after 220pm. There just isn't enough traffic across the Atlantic to send planes east to west in the early evening. Working backward, the latest flights that can reach Portland from an East Coast gateway city would probably be

CO784  1906 2227  EWR PDX  or  DL741  1915 1101  JFK PDX

So the next step is to find appropriate flights to EWR or JFK from suitable gateways in Europe like Frankfurst, Paris, London, Amsterdam and Helsinki as well as from Moscow direct. Gateways departures that can connect above after 220pm are:

LHR JFK  1515 1815  BA113
LHR EWR  none within Newark conect time
AMS to either JFK or EWR nothing
CDG to either JFK or EWR too tight a connection
FRA to either JFK or EWR nothing
HEL to either JFK or EWR nothing
SVO JFK  SU316  1555 1820

Since you can't possibly get from after 220pm in Moscow to London instantaneously to make the above connection, that can be ruled out. We are left with the Areoflot 316 flight leaving Moscow at 355pm to connect with DL641 leaving JFK at 1915 as the only possibility. That would give Phil another 95 minutes vs. the 220pm flight.

So does this mean that Phil has to fly with the leaders of the pack to get to Portland?  That would work since he does not have to go to all the clue points.  They could have him do the standups later, after the finish.

Not necessarily, Chateau. It depends on when all teams get to the pitstop. However, since that has to be well before 2pm for Phil to make the airport(maybe they would charter a helicopter to get him on his way), I consider it quite unlikely that he would make that flight. The next best alternative is the 705am flight on Saturday May 14 with the final 3 teams. I would guess that Phil would be flying first class and the teams coach class. Once in Portland he has time to get to the pitstop and get set up, but he would find it difficult to get to all task sites. We should look for that on the Dec. 7 finale.


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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #202 on: November 26, 2008, 02:24:29 PM »
 :lol:  and just to confuse things up some more, let's not forget about Dandrew at Victory Park, in bright sunlight (and very low sun angles) probably early morning.  Since previous legs pitstop is so close to Sculpture Park, maybe they send the teams to get their first clue in Victory Park just to get them away from the other locations.   :angel:  Then on to the sub, and back to the sculptures, etc. etc.   :funny:

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #203 on: November 26, 2008, 02:32:23 PM »
That too Boingo, lol

Could the teamates be inside the flat looking for something?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fakeplasticgirl/sets/72157602438786281/?page=4

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #204 on: November 26, 2008, 02:37:11 PM »
Where is that pic please? Could it be late afternoon instead?

Do we have any pics that show the sub as first, or are we just thinking that is the get a clue start?

Could that come later instead?

I either need a nap or some major caffeine--my head is spinning!  :iok  :lol:

arrrggghh! What "flat"?? You would think I had never read every single post here... :helpme

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #205 on: November 26, 2008, 02:43:14 PM »
Maybe what we are seeing is Dandrew arriving behind Toni.  Hence the hurried look? Although I will say he always has that, I'm going to hurl, look on his face.


Also,
I have gone back through each page and followed the Race Fanny Packs. They only team not pictured is Dandrew.  Please feel free to correct me.

Although this does not mean a team pictured with one can't lose it later.  :'(

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #206 on: November 26, 2008, 02:46:06 PM »
Where is that pic please? Could it be late afternoon instead?

Do we have any pics that show the sub as first, or are we just thinking that is the get a clue start?

Could that come later instead?

I either need a nap or some major caffeine--my head is spinning!  :iok  :lol:

arrrggghh! What "flat"?? You would think I had never read every single post here... :helpme

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Bulgakov Flat and the photo I posted is our guy Matt's. Sorry about that peach, lol

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #207 on: November 26, 2008, 02:53:48 PM »
Maybe what we are seeing is Dandrew arriving behind Toni.  Hence the hurried look? Although I will say he always has that, I'm going to hurl, look on his face.


Also,
I have gone back through each page and followed the Race Fanny Packs. They only team not pictured is Dandrew.  Please feel free to correct me.

Although this does not mean a team pictured with one can't lose it later.  :'(

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #208 on: November 26, 2008, 02:54:46 PM »
Great,
Thank you.

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #209 on: November 26, 2008, 03:07:23 PM »
No problem Noluck

while I'm here ..


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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #210 on: November 26, 2008, 03:09:46 PM »
:lol:  and just to confuse things up some more, let's not forget about Dandrew at Victory Park, in bright sunlight (and very low sun angles) probably early morning.  Since previous legs pitstop is so close to Sculpture Park, maybe they send the teams to get their first clue in Victory Park just to get them away from the other locations.   :angel:  Then on to the sub, and back to the sculptures, etc. etc.   :funny:

Okay, is the pic you mean?



That's near this, right?


And didn't we think they were outside the gates to the sculpture garden here?

Chateau:It's probably been said already but Tina is getting wet outside the entrance to Gorky Park.  Panaramio
Bonigo:  yep, they are exiting taxis across from Gorky Park gate to enter Sculpture Park.

So again, why do we see one half of the teams seated at the museum with Toni talking as though she is waiting for Dallas to do the Roadblock? ???

Maybe instead there is actually something going on inside the Museum, and we are just jumping to the conclusion that Dallas in the Sculptures is the roadblock. Or maybe I still need that caffeine. :pull




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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #211 on: November 26, 2008, 03:10:53 PM »
 :lol:  Nevermind peach, looks more like late morning at Victory Park.  Lots of shadows, so maybe y'all can narrow it down.   :umn:

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #212 on: November 26, 2008, 03:15:40 PM »
That too Boingo, lol

Could the teamates be inside the flat looking for something?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fakeplasticgirl/sets/72157602438786281/?page=4

(Matts photo below)
The only thing that has occurred to me is that outside that building could be the designated place for the Roadblock team member not doing it to wait for the one who is. Is this building anywhere near to the Garden where busts of Stalin or Lenin have to be identified?

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #213 on: November 26, 2008, 03:33:38 PM »
Just my opinion, but the man in the picture behind Toni looks as though he has a beard, or at least a goatee.

It really don't think it is Dan.

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« Reply #214 on: November 26, 2008, 03:39:00 PM »

So again, why do we see one half of the teams seated at the museum with Toni talking as though she is waiting for Dallas to do the Roadblock? ???

Maybe instead there is actually something going on inside the Museum, and we are just jumping to the conclusion that Dallas in the Sculptures is the roadblock. Or maybe I still need that caffeine. :pull



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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #215 on: November 26, 2008, 03:51:09 PM »
Could they all be outside the Bulgakov House waiting for it to open?

http://www.dombulgakova.ru/ translated says:
Hours: from 13.00 to 23.00 daily.
In summer the museum Friday and Saturday nights until 01.00 ..
Entrance to the museum is free.
Moscow, metro Mayakovskaya st. Large Garden, House 10 (302 bis), by the Satire Theater, Theater Mossoveta, in the arc and the left, Floor 1.
From there to here, and here to there,
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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #216 on: November 26, 2008, 03:53:12 PM »
Bulgakov's flat to Sculpture Park
Walking directions to Sculpture Park
4.1 km – about 49 mins

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #217 on: November 26, 2008, 03:54:55 PM »
Could they all be outside the Bulgakov House waiting for it to open?

http://www.dombulgakova.ru/ translated says:
Hours: from 13.00 to 23.00 daily.
In summer the museum Friday and Saturday nights until 01.00 ..
Entrance to the museum is free.
Moscow, metro Mayakovskaya st. Large Garden, House 10 (302 bis), by the Satire Theater, Theater Mossoveta, in the arc and the left, Floor 1.
Now theres a thought!

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #218 on: November 26, 2008, 03:58:21 PM »
Okay, I'll buy Dan as not Dan, lol...

I believe Dallas in the Sculpture Garden.

I just don't understand why we see half of each team  all hanging out at the Museum-- ...  :duno: since it isn't right next door to the roadblock or anything.

Just FWIW: In the TAR 12 final 4 leg:

it went for K/V: Fly to india, get to newspaper point, get to Detour point, go to Speedbump, then go do detour, then roadblock then pitstop  and there was a U-Turn in there too....
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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #219 on: November 26, 2008, 04:14:50 PM »
From Matt's photos... the other side of the flat



and ???


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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #220 on: November 26, 2008, 04:28:26 PM »
So we need more tourists photos inside Bulgakov's house/flat

just thinking .......

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« Reply #221 on: November 26, 2008, 04:35:24 PM »
haha from Matts photos the cat and then from the site, the cat in the flat

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #222 on: November 26, 2008, 04:56:44 PM »
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So we need more tourists photos inside Bulgakov's house/flat
I can't help (I'm at a slower computer this week) but I think you're on the right track with Andrew's photo. Bulgakov wrote Heart of a Dog and The Master and Margarita; notice the mementos behind Andrew. Also, the arty shots Matt made with the black cat.

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #223 on: November 26, 2008, 05:00:50 PM »
I just found this on the Museum site :lol:

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Re: EP10: 11/30 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'
« Reply #224 on: November 26, 2008, 05:08:09 PM »
 :lol:  I vote Dandrew for the episode title 'You're Gonna Get Me Killed'.  (just before they avoid getting run over by the truck)   :funny: