Topic: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6

[michael]

[ThunderStruck]

I personally don't think badly of Adam for using the word retard.  Yes, it's outdated.  But Adam is "off" and IMO, Adam relates to these kids, he has a big heart.  He meant no harm.  I actually believe people who are affected, use looser terms because it takes the sting out of the stigma.  Fat kids make the fat jokes first type of philosphy.  Been there, done that.  I think that was Adam's intention.  IMHO.

Just a couple postings from the same website that is bashing Adam, but in Adam's defense...

1) I worked with the MRDD population for 15 years. I also watch the live feeds of Big Brother. It was edited out of context. I think it is more important that he cares about Autism. I believe that actions speak louder than words.
Why lose someone who does a good job?

2) This is his brother! I told my self that I would not get involved in this reality stuff. But I feel that people have trouble understanding TV editing. It was meant to sound like that by the editing of the crew! I can assure you that Adam, my brother, meant no harm by his comment. He was merely trying to get his point across to people that didn’t understand what he was saying! Adam talks very fast and sometimes people don’t know what he said. So in frustration he uses words that get the point across. Please know that Adam is a great person, though I do admit he is a little rough!

3) geez its just a word and the definition simply means: To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.
whats the big deal? he is going to use the money he wins to HELP autistic kids!! Did you not hear that? I dont know Adam and I work with autistic kids and didnt find it insulting at all. Haters!!

4) wow, I can't believe that people get so worked up over maybe what was a one time slip of the tongue when we was visably upset. I don't think he is a con..there are so many things said by people of importance everyday by people we are electing to office and this is where you spend your time?? I just don't get it

[kelloggs5TLFan]

I personally don't think badly of Adam for using the word retard.  Yes, it's outdated.  But Adam is "off" and IMO, Adam relates to these kids, he has a big heart.  He meant no harm.  I actually believe people who are affected, use looser terms because it takes the sting out of the stigma.  Fat kids make the fat jokes first type of philosphy.  Been there, done that.  I think that was Adam's intention.  IMHO.

Just a couple postings from the same website that is bashing Adam, but in Adam's defense...

1) I worked with the MRDD population for 15 years. I also watch the live feeds of Big Brother. It was edited out of context. I think it is more important that he cares about Autism. I believe that actions speak louder than words.
Why lose someone who does a good job?

2) This is his brother! I told my self that I would not get involved in this reality stuff. But I feel that people have trouble understanding TV editing. It was meant to sound like that by the editing of the crew! I can assure you that Adam, my brother, meant no harm by his comment. He was merely trying to get his point across to people that didn’t understand what he was saying! Adam talks very fast and sometimes people don’t know what he said. So in frustration he uses words that get the point across. Please know that Adam is a great person, though I do admit he is a little rough!

3) geez its just a word and the definition simply means: To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.
whats the big deal? he is going to use the money he wins to HELP autistic kids!! Did you not hear that? I dont know Adam and I work with autistic kids and didnt find it insulting at all. Haters!!

4) wow, I can't believe that people get so worked up over maybe what was a one time slip of the tongue when we was visably upset. I don't think he is a con..there are so many things said by people of importance everyday by people we are electing to office and this is where you spend your time?? I just don't get it

The word "retard" is used as slang to make fun of. It's very hurtful to people that have challenges.  I have a child that is mentally handicapped, through no fault of hers or mine.. Why should she be made fun of and put down. She deserves the respect everyone else does.  I for one, do not appreciate the use of the word as slang. Adam doesn't live in the 70's or 80's. If Adam were serious about the kids he "works" with, I would think he would respect these kids and their parents. I don't want anyone on drugs working with or around my daughter.  Adam was in a positon to help these kids and he screwed up, big time. I have no respect for him.

[MamaTo4boys]

I could go on BB and make Michael cry. Im only kidding - maybe :inocent:

They told Adam in the DR or something that the retard comment was aired and was only aired because there was a fight between him and Sheila. Thats what the audiences want. So be it. I think that if Adam finds out he is fired he will go to another foundation that will take his money. My sister worked with MRDDs, my other sister was one of those people that go to houses for autistic kids in high school (like a sitter but not - don't attack me for that) and I did equine assisted therapy where there are MRDDs, autistic kids. I think that people just don't think before they speak and unfortuently it does hurt people. I don't think Adam meant harm but as someone pointed out we also do not know how it was sad (simply because it was said before the live feeds) and we know that CBS changes up DR sessions, we know that CBS has edited things in the past.

But you know I would take the one that had a slip up of the tongue over the "racist", sorry didn't mean to open up a new can of works

[RealityFreakWill]

Since the wrap party is set for Wednesday night for the houseguests and the crew and the families, I'm under the impression everybody has to check out the hotel on Thursday morning so that's the day everybody probably will be flying back to their hometowns with the exception for Ryan and Sharon, they have to stay in L.A. to attend the premiere party on Saturday. They probably will check out and fly home on Sunday.

Josh's homecoming party is scheduled for Friday the 2nd at 8pm at Times Ten Cellars winery in Dallas, TX.

Ryan's homecoming party is scheduled for Friday the 9th at MYNT Ultralounge in Columbus, OH.

I'm sure there are parties planned for other houseguests as well. 

[MamaTo4boys]

I believe Adam has a party somewhere as well - or maybe thats just a finale party. Nevermind!

[RealityFreakWill]

28 more hours and it's D.U.N.!

[Nuala]

I will miss Adam.

[Nuala]

Adam was not working for the Autism foundation when he made the comment.  He has been a volunteer since the company downsized.  But, he will no longer be able to work for them in the future.  I think he will donate the money to them regardless.  No he shouldn't have used the word, but he did and that is that. He will live and learn from it.

[ThunderStruck]

Adam was not working for the Autism foundation when he made the comment.  He has been a volunteer since the company downsized.  But, he will no longer be able to work for them in the future.  I think he will donate the money to them regardless.  No he shouldn't have used the word, but he did and that is that. He will live and learn from it.

Better said than I could.  Thanks

[ducky]

Here is a poem curtesy of CaboGirl (she writes a poem about every season of BB....she was not fond of the BB9 cast)

Ode To BB9

Why you were cast I see NO reason.

You are not the best but the very worst Season.



Racists, Strippers, Porn, and Abusers.

Not entertaining or Loved by the Viewers.


Now you should all feel Regret and Shame.

Was that worth 15 minutes of Fame?



Goodbye House Guests Of Big Brother 9.

You Are All A Waste Of My Time.


Bring ON BB10

[ugot2bekidinmeny]

I just felt like I had to RE-POST this especially after watching ED and Janelle's interview the other day.ED musta said Guinea pigs for the win over a dozens times!!

posted by me 4-16-08

[so yogi and boo boo what would you do if we gave you the 500,000?"

we'll we would get Sharon speech lessons so she doesn't screech at us. and we would get  Adam an appointment with a dermatologist to deal with all his ball scratching. and we would get Ryan a nutritionist since he's eating all of our food, and we would get Sheila to write our life story, and then we would most likely have Lil piggies of our own and find a home where its 's DRAMA FREE, and  never ever apply to be on another reality show! ]

[MamaTo4boys]

I thought Adam was working for the foundation and he was fired from it, how can they 'fire' a volunteer?

And I now remember the $ he won not going to that foundation but that day he called them the name, he said he wanted to make a hair salon so the "" could get their hair cut. Now he wants to do something in denistry (with help from Sheila)?

[georgiapeach]

That GP cracks me up!

GP love!

[TexasLady]

LOVE the piggies! Guinea Pig Power!

I always heard Adam talking about dental clinics for autistic children, and when Shel was talking about it last week Adam did get very animated talking about it, saying that his status would improve because of being on BB, helping him get a bigger audience for his dream of the dental clinics. I might have even made a video of it. I don't recall him talking about helping them get hair cuts, but he could have said that when I wasn't watching. (or have forgotten, senior moment?) 

Love the poem!! 

[I'm Ron Burgundy?]

Honestly Adam seems to have a lot of ideas to help out autistic children. He's a good guy, one word slip when he seemed to be angry/on a rant caused some big uproar. There's been a lot of other horrible things said on Big Brother that are on the same caliber of cruelty that was basically not reacted too at all.(Slandering of races, nationalities, etc.)

It's just because Big Brother aired it I think, and it'll be held against Adam for ages.

[ThunderStruck]

I personally don't think badly of Adam for using the word retard.  Yes, it's outdated.  But Adam is "off" and IMO, Adam relates to these kids, he has a big heart.  He meant no harm.  I actually believe people who are affected, use looser terms because it takes the sting out of the stigma.  Fat kids make the fat jokes first type of philosphy.  Been there, done that.  I think that was Adam's intention.  IMHO.

Just a couple postings from the same website that is bashing Adam, but in Adam's defense...

1) I worked with the MRDD population for 15 years. I also watch the live feeds of Big Brother. It was edited out of context. I think it is more important that he cares about Autism. I believe that actions speak louder than words.
Why lose someone who does a good job?

2) This is his brother! I told my self that I would not get involved in this reality stuff. But I feel that people have trouble understanding TV editing. It was meant to sound like that by the editing of the crew! I can assure you that Adam, my brother, meant no harm by his comment. He was merely trying to get his point across to people that didn’t understand what he was saying! Adam talks very fast and sometimes people don’t know what he said. So in frustration he uses words that get the point across. Please know that Adam is a great person, though I do admit he is a little rough!

3) geez its just a word and the definition simply means: To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.
whats the big deal? he is going to use the money he wins to HELP autistic kids!! Did you not hear that? I dont know Adam and I work with autistic kids and didnt find it insulting at all. Haters!!

4) wow, I can't believe that people get so worked up over maybe what was a one time slip of the tongue when we was visably upset. I don't think he is a con..there are so many things said by people of importance everyday by people we are electing to office and this is where you spend your time?? I just don't get it

The word "retard" is used as slang to make fun of. It's very hurtful to people that have challenges.  I have a child that is mentally handicapped, through no fault of hers or mine.. Why should she be made fun of and put down. She deserves the respect everyone else does.  I for one, do not appreciate the use of the word as slang. Adam doesn't live in the 70's or 80's. If Adam were serious about the kids he "works" with, I would think he would respect these kids and their parents. I don't want anyone on drugs working with or around my daughter.  Adam was in a positon to help these kids and he screwed up, big time. I have no respect for him.

I have a lot to say about this if you'd like to email me personally.

No one deserves disrespect.

[MamaTo4boys]

TL, thats what he said with the retard comment. I believe he said something like "so those retards can get a haircut". Who knows.

I do for one think when Adam finds out he would be the first to say what he did was wrong, and apologize. He does seem like that kind of person. His tears this season have showed that I don't think he wants to see anybody hurting (remember Josh crying over the pizza, who was there with a shoulder? Who asked Sharon to calm him down? When anybody including himself got their HOH letters he cried. We all saw it. I think he will be very upset to find out that he is fired, and you know hes right from being on BB he will get alot of attention. I know I myself have looked more into autism fouondations because of this. When im not pregnant I work with special needs kids doing equine assisted therapy and thats my way of helping them out.

Its not just Adam that should be getting bashed for this. Jen who could be doing great things working as a special needs teacher but because of her mistakes and DUIs got her license revoked. And at her age, I know alot of kids that would look up to her. Not an example I want set for my kids.

My point is we all make mistakes, im not perfect in any way but I try to do the best I can and these people aren't even parents so they don't know what that bond is like. My neice says that im her hero and it freaks me the heck out, because I have done NOTHING important (in my mind) but she has started working at the humane society in her free time, helping train service dogs, working at equine assisted therapy and does softball for the special needs kids and says she wants to be just like me when it comes to sports. Life is hard enough when you don't have people like that looking up to you and depending on you. So I can't fault anybody but it is only human to want to do so when something hurtful is said.

[georgiapeach]

Y'all might want to have a look here in the Autism thread:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,14555.msg299244.html#msg299244


Adam has clearly made some mistakes that will follow him out of BB.

Hopefully he will be able to learn and grow from them.

[TexasLady]

One day I will be on Big Brother and you better all be rooting for me

We will Michael!!

 

[TexasLady]

TL, thats what he said with the retard comment. I believe he said something like "so those retards can get a haircut". Who knows.

I do for one think when Adam finds out he would be the first to say what he did was wrong, and apologize. He does seem like that kind of person. His tears this season have showed that I don't think he wants to see anybody hurting (remember Josh crying over the pizza, who was there with a shoulder? Who asked Sharon to calm him down? When anybody including himself got their HOH letters he cried. We all saw it. I think he will be very upset to find out that he is fired, and you know hes right from being on BB he will get alot of attention. I know I myself have looked more into autism fouondations because of this. When im not pregnant I work with special needs kids doing equine assisted therapy and thats my way of helping them out.

Its not just Adam that should be getting bashed for this. Jen who could be doing great things working as a special needs teacher but because of her mistakes and DUIs got her license revoked. And at her age, I know alot of kids that would look up to her. Not an example I want set for my kids.

My point is we all make mistakes, im not perfect in any way but I try to do the best I can and these people aren't even parents so they don't know what that bond is like. My neice says that im her hero and it freaks me the heck out, because I have done NOTHING important (in my mind) but she has started working at the humane society in her free time, helping train service dogs, working at equine assisted therapy and does softball for the special needs kids and says she wants to be just like me when it comes to sports. Life is hard enough when you don't have people like that looking up to you and depending on you. So I can't fault anybody but it is only human to want to do so when something hurtful is said.

Thanks for clearing up the haircut conversation. I only remembered about the retard remark.

My gripe/disgust with Adam isn't that he made the stupid comment, he did show compassion for James and Joshy. It's the other things he's said and done. His contempt for women and the disgusting way he speaks about them. His talking about what he's going to do when he gets out. He has been cruel at times to Sheila.

He talks about drug use. I fault myself for not videoing the conversation the guys had in the backyard when they were all talking about drug use before they came into the house. It was revealing and because I cannot quote it accurately now, I won't try. (I believe it was with James, Matt, Adam and Ryan.)

Ryan is no better, nor James or Chelsia for that matter. This has been the sometimes vile, almost always crude and lewd Big Brother Winter edition. I hope it is the last.

BTW Mama, you ARE a role model to your children and niece, and you are doing something important! 

[Artzy13]

:waves:Hi All! Happy Final Sunday!
Just two little things and then I'm off 'til July.
1) Here are my predictions for tonite:
Adam:
Matt
Nat
James
Chelsea
Sheila
Ryan:
Sharon
Josh

2) Thank you - all of you hard working and dedicated updaters. Without you most of us wouldn't have a clue what was going on, and we would have to rely solely on CBS and 3 hours of show a week. So from me to all of you:
  :elvis:

[RealityFreakWill]

SEVEN MORE HOURS!!!

FYI, I will be creating a new thread after the finale is over and it will be for the post season updates of the houseguests and pictures of the wrap parties, homecoming parties and whatnot....the thread will not be for commentary or bashing on the houseguests, just purely to keep us updated on what they are doing since leaving L.A. and to view pictures.

I will be checking their myspace profiles daily to post any news or pictures they post.

[Riosmommy]

I have been a nurse for 20 years have worked with Disable children and also children who are classified as Retarded.   I also Has ababy Daughter born last May who was born with Downs Syndrome.  The first word your find when you look up Down syndrome is Retardation and people say lots of words like Mongoloid and you name it about children.  What Adam said was literally stupid and insensitive but this again is a reality show and people when nervous say things they normally wouldnt- then they are trying to be cool and things.  I do not belive he meant any harm what so ever.  I think also its great they didnt hide the comment becasue it would have come out.  Also if you watch Adam he himself appears to have some issues possibly a form of the Autism spectrum or some other issues similiar.  Everyone jokes with him scracthing his balls and he does quirky things with his lips and the way he stutter talks at times is all garbled together.  He may be a genius in many things but the man has issues.  I think people should let him make is apologies which I truly belive will be very sincere.  I have no doubt this man will also help many children along the way regardless.  Is he a jerk-- yeh but I see people working at group homes that are horrific and Adam is not the monster.

[michael]

SEVEN MORE HOURS!!!

FYI, I will be creating a new thread after the finale is over and it will be for the post season updates of the houseguests and pictures of the wrap parties, homecoming parties and whatnot....the thread will not be for commentary or bashing on the houseguests, just purely to keep us updated on what they are doing since leaving L.A. and to view pictures.

I will be checking their myspace profiles daily to post any news or pictures they post.

haha, if you are so eager for the season to be over then why would you want to keep up to date with these stupid house guests