Topic: ongoing live feed commentary & chatter thread #4 (spoilers allowed)

[peppermintpatty]

FNF you are out of control with those avatars....

[MamaTo4boys]

If Zach is still in the house, which I think he will be I kinda want him to win to see who he would put up and to see who will kiss his ass now.

We agree on something finally Just kidding. I think that Zach really wants Eric (not Jess - like Daniele said he told her) gone.

[MamaTo4boys]

I am hoping Eric finally wins!!! And what does he mean when he says that he won the first HOH and Jess can see it when she watches the video?

Eric and Kail won the mushroom contest but Kail was picked by the three twist HG members.  Not sure if that is what he meant

Didn't he say (to us) that he did NOT want to win HOH the first week, so he suggested Kail get it?

I think he was saying it in the DR afterwards and they put as a voiceover.  He really did not want it.  They decided to pick Kail because she was a mom, something silly like that.

Actually when they went to the HOH room to let the three pick, Eric kept saying "let Kail have it blah blah blah, she did all the work".

[sass]

If Zach is still in the house, which I think he will be I kinda want him to win to see who he would put up and to see who will kiss his ass now.

We agree on something finally Just kidding. I think that Zach really wants Eric (not Jess - like Daniele said he told her) gone.

I know what you mean mama.   He may put up both Eric and Jess though, or Eric and Jameka with Jess as the replacement option because as seen last night D&D are the only ones who really talk with Zach and do things with him in the house, which is a smart move on their part too.

[sass]

I am hoping Eric finally wins!!! And what does he mean when he says that he won the first HOH and Jess can see it when she watches the video?

Eric and Kail won the mushroom contest but Kail was picked by the three twist HG members.  Not sure if that is what he meant

Didn't he say (to us) that he did NOT want to win HOH the first week, so he suggested Kail get it?

I think he was saying it in the DR afterwards and they put as a voiceover.  He really did not want it.  They decided to pick Kail because she was a mom, something silly like that.

Actually when they went to the HOH room to let the three pick, Eric kept saying "let Kail have it blah blah blah, she did all the work".

I didn't remember exactly, but now that you say that I remember that and also he was saying he didn't really want it first because of the target it creates and all that other BS associated with it that early in the game.

[MamaTo4boys]

I think Zachs plan is Jess/Jameke with Eric as the replacement. But by doing that he gives Eric a chance for veto and removing Jess.

[sass]

I think Zachs plan is Jess/Jameke with Eric as the replacement. But by doing that he gives Eric a chance for veto and removing Jess.

That is fine, but what if the veto isn't used?  Do you think he will chance it?  I don't know.  I do know that all three of them are on his hit list, especially Jess after this week because he thought that they were close.  Perhaps then he will want Jess out over Jameka.

The more I talk about it, the more I actually want him to be HOH.  I think it will make things exciting in this house, especially after such a boring night last night.

[MamaTo4boys]

As much as I like Jess she really screwed up this week and while thats Erics fault it was HER HOH

[MamaTo4boys]

And of course Dick was all about Zach "not screwing up the plan" but yet he runs to Eric to tell him that Zach wants to back door him. Wasn't Dick ok with this? Honestly if he told Daniele he wanted Jess out it would still be breaking up Jess/Eric It SHOULDN'T matter.

I hope now that Zach stays and Zach sends one of them packing.

[sass]

And of course Dick was all about Zach "not screwing up the plan" but yet he runs to Eric to tell him that Zach wants to back door him. Wasn't Dick ok with this? Honestly if he told Daniele he wanted Jess out it would still be breaking up Jess/Eric It SHOULDN'T matter.

I hope now that Zach stays and Zach sends one of them packing.

Sorry just to clarify one of who packing?

And Jess really did screw up her HOH by basically having Eric call all the shots, and I hate to admit it but I feel like Eric is playing Jess how Boogie played Erika last year.

[sass]

I think the Zach confrontation right now is a ploy to get into his head for HOH and to make Amber think she is stay and Zach is leaving.

[puddin]

Erics plan was for them to make Zach think that he is not safe , that is why Dick went off on him. ( now lets see if Eric does the same  )
Zach has told both sides that he is putting the other side up -- they want Zach to put Jameka up and make it stick if he wins HOH.
Dani is being nice to both Zach & Amber-- prob working on their jury votes which is smart -- blaming her decisions on who she is going to vote out on her dad.
Me thinks that Eric has set Dick up -- Zach might be motivated now to win HOH and since it was Dick that went off on him it might be Dick that he puts up? Zach is both sides best chance to get rid of each other since Jameka can't.

[TannerandLilysMommy]

Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone had the link for Danielle's Live Journal? I used to have it and now I can't find it! Please HELP!!! LOL..

Thanks! You guys are awesome! I don't know what I would do without you! You keep me entertained all day!

[sass]

Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone had the link for Danielle's Live Journal? I used to have it and now I can't find it! Please HELP!!! LOL..

Thanks! You guys are awesome! I don't know what I would do without you! You keep me entertained all day!

http://www.oddandstupid.com/Big_Brother_8.htm

just scroll down to Daniele and it is there broken up by years.

[TannerandLilysMommy]

I was trying oddandwierd! That is why I couldn't find it! Thank you Sass! I knew I could depend on you! 

[sunflower1220]

Erics plan was for them to make Zach think that he is not safe , that is why Dick went off on him. ( now lets see if Eric does the same  )
Zach has told both sides that he is putting the other side up -- they want Zach to put Jameka up and make it stick if he wins HOH.
Dani is being nice to both Zach & Amber-- prob working on their jury votes which is smart -- blaming her decisions on who she is going to vote out on her dad.
Me thinks that Eric has set Dick up -- Zach might be motivated now to win HOH and since it was Dick that went off on him it might be Dick that he puts up? Zach is both sides best chance to get rid of each other since Jameka can't.

I was wondering about this too, and with the way Eric is playing the game, I think you are very correct.  It is certainly a smart move, because now if Zach gets it it's a guarantee that Dick will go up, no matter how much you know what he kisses.  Unless Zach all of a sudden gets an overly soft heart and says, well he and Dani are the only two who talk to me whether I have power or not, so I'll give them a free ticket.  I doubt though he would do that, as he isn't as stupid as he lets people think he is.  JMO

[sass]

I was trying oddandwierd! That is why I couldn't find it! Thank you Sass! I knew I could depend on you! 

You're welcome.  At least you had half of it.

[PoppyD]

Zach is finally playing the game,,  if he is HOH he will put up whoever gets him further in the game....  he is done with the playing both sides,, he has to comit to one group or the other .....

[TexasLady]

Moved to discussion:

Mama2MyBoys: Did Dick ever get to smoke last night? Because last night he was fine with Zach not "keeping his story straight".

TexasLady: It is sort of a ploy, Dick and Eric talked about it earlier, but Eric was going to go off on Zach too, but then equivocated, he didn't say anything to Zach that I could hear.

Mama2MyBoys: Is it to make Amber think shes staying? They were talking about something like that last night. 

TexasLady: I heard the discussion this morning, Dick and Eric had been talking about Zach wanting to back-door Eric and they decided to confront him. They want to intimidate him more than anything else, because Eric said they had the votes no matter if Zach wins HOH.


Sass: I think the Zach confrontation right now is a ploy to get into his head for HOH and to make Amber think she is stay and Zach is leaving.

[sass]

Mama he did get to smoke because that is when we saw the stage/box thing that they had built in the backyard

[sunflower1220]

Zach is finally playing the game,,  if he is HOH he will put up whoever gets him further in the game....  he is done with the playing both sides,, he has to comit to one group or the other .....

Unless he doesn't get HOH, then he could keep playing both sides for one more week, but after that he would have to step up his game, because he would definitely be busted.

[puddin]

Zach is finally playing the game,,  if he is HOH he will put up whoever gets him further in the game....  he is done with the playing both sides,, he has to comit to one group or the other .....

Actually I think the master player that he thinks he is Zach has just been called out by Dick is making his head spin, his mind must be working overtime, he thought no one was on to his ass-kissing game play techniques nor compared notes . Zach wants to make one power play like Erika did by getting Janie to get Will out and we all know how well that worked for Erika  --sort of the same for JBlow making the power move to get Kaysar out 

[MamaTo4boys]

I really do hope that Zach gets it. What I think he should do is put up Dick or Daniele with Jess or Eric. That way the other "one" can pull that other off then use the replacement nominee as the ones that are close.

Like say he put up Dick/Eric then Jess or Eric win POV - then he puts up Daniele. Or if Dick or Daniele wins POV then he puts up Jess with Eric. Its a funky way of doing it, but whatever. Dick is ticking me off even more. First the fight with Daniele (twice this week), now picking on Zach. Who cares if it was Jess or Eric. Dick should have NEVER told Eric that Zach was his target. Never.

And sass, when I was watching last night they saw the stage from the window in the kitchen (I guess it was that one). So I wasn't sure.

[sunflower1220]

I really do hope that Zach gets it. What I think he should do is put up Dick or Daniele with Jess or Eric. That way the other "one" can pull that other off then use the replacement nominee as the ones that are close.

Like say he put up Dick/Eric then Jess or Eric win POV - then he puts up Daniele. Or if Dick or Daniele wins POV then he puts up Jess with Eric. Its a funky way of doing it, but whatever. Dick is ticking me off even more. First the fight with Daniele (twice this week), now picking on Zach. Who cares if it was Jess or Eric. Dick should have NEVER told Eric that Zach was his target. Never.

And sass, when I was watching last night they saw the stage from the window in the kitchen (I guess it was that one). So I wasn't sure.

If Zach gets it, your idea would be the smartest one, the only way it might backfire is if they left noms the same, but then basically it would be Jameka making the final decision, and we all know who she would chose.  Of course we, as outsiders, are probably able to think more clearly about it then he might, especially if he is put on the spot and noms must be made immediately.  The only thing I know for sure is either way tonight is going to be interesting.

[MamaTo4boys]

In my perfect world the way it should go is Amber, Daniele, Dick, Eric then Jess/Jameka/Zach F3