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The leg was okay but am I the only one who finds this season... boring?

Not boring in the sense of I can't watch the episodes without falling asleep, but boring in the sense that everyone has fallen into a state of being consistent with their placements and more or less being stuck into them. It's unexciting to see the same teams always fighting for first with the same teams always trailing.
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It is pretty clear if you actually watch that segment.
Once the flower turned green and HGs were allowed to press their buttons, Kevin was the first one to do so and his light lit up green.
The other 6 pressed their buttons consecutively and their lights lit up red because the temptation had already been taken.
Grey ones simply didn't act. Although Christmas & Josh's lights are blocked from view, Josh said in a confessional that he wasn't gonna press it, so I assume Christmas also didn't go for it, or else we probably would've been shown that.

The first temptation vote, as I mentioned, was clear intentional manipulation.
Sure, Jessica's Hex was a truly powerful tool that she misused, but look at what Christmas got. A chance to play in any veto. So it's basically the possibility to increase your chances of being safe one random week, as opposed to Paul's power to be immune for 3 weeks without the house knowing. And because nobody knew, it screwed up Cody's game week 1 (although I'm not saying he played that week great either).

If you followed any of the pre-season interviews, some people even said Paul was their favorite HG from last year.
Going further, Paul admitted on the live feeds that the golden apple in the first HOH (which Josh ended up taking) was put there to keep Paul safe the first week, and not get him booted simply because he's a vet.
I really feel like I'm repeating Dick's blog at this point, but Paul's safety + his friendship bracelets which kept half the house safe day 1 have really helped him cement his relationships. He has been given power unlike any other past contestant, and it has introduced the notion that sucking up to the vet will give you safety. Plus, when he IS safe for 3 weeks, he can go around talking to anybody about anything without putting his game in jeopardy.
I've never thought it was unfair or unwarranted to speculate or even believe there's some producer manipulation going on - we've said that here for years. But to go beyond speculation takes a little thing called proof - and by that I don't mean circumstantial stuff. We need a insider to leak some memos and/or emails.

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By the way, did you catch that Raven knew Paul prior to BB? A single pre-game relationship can impact a lot of things, as Raven can surely work other players into an alliance with Paul, knowing that she CAN trust him.
I caught that Dick said that. I didn't see any proof of it. It's not relevant anyway - it's not known if anyone really trusts another.

Again, none of this trumps the absolute cowardice and sheepishness of this cast.
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TAR Canada / Re: TAR Canada 5: Ep 8 "Can I See Your Kuna?" 8/22/17
« Last post by georgiapeach on Today at 05:26:18 PM »
So look who finally made it on the show! :luvu:


 :winner
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It is pretty clear if you actually watch that segment.
Once the flower turned green and HGs were allowed to press their buttons, Kevin was the first one to do so and his light lit up green.
The other 6 pressed their buttons consecutively and their lights lit up red because the temptation had already been taken.
Grey ones simply didn't act. Although Christmas & Josh's lights are blocked from view, Josh said in a confessional that he wasn't gonna press it, so I assume Christmas also didn't go for it, or else we probably would've been shown that.

The first temptation vote, as I mentioned, was clear intentional manipulation.
Sure, Jessica's Hex was a truly powerful tool that she misused, but look at what Christmas got. A chance to play in any veto. So it's basically the possibility to increase your chances of being safe one random week, as opposed to Paul's power to be immune for 3 weeks without the house knowing. And because nobody knew, it screwed up Cody's game week 1 (although I'm not saying he played that week great either).

If you followed any of the pre-season interviews, some people even said Paul was their favorite HG from last year.
Going further, Paul admitted on the live feeds that the golden apple in the first HOH (which Josh ended up taking) was put there to keep Paul safe the first week, and not get him booted simply because he's a vet.
I really feel like I'm repeating Dick's blog at this point, but Paul's safety + his friendship bracelets which kept half the house safe day 1 have really helped him cement his relationships. He has been given power unlike any other past contestant, and it has introduced the notion that sucking up to the vet will give you safety. Plus, when he IS safe for 3 weeks, he can go around talking to anybody about anything without putting his game in jeopardy.

By the way, did you catch that Raven knew Paul prior to BB? A single pre-game relationship can impact a lot of things, as Raven can surely work other players into an alliance with Paul, knowing that she CAN trust him.
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Fine, I downloaded the first episode just to screenshot this.

https://s4.postimg.org/sqvlxcz31/2017-08-23_23_47_20-_Greenshot.png
Did they all start with a red light on? Or no lights at all? The ones with no lights on - is it because they made no choice? Or because they were late in pressing for the green light? Or, did they get the red light because they pressed the button after Kevin? It's not clear.
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Fine, I downloaded the first episode just to screenshot this.

https://s4.postimg.org/sqvlxcz31/2017-08-23_23_47_20-_Greenshot.png

I was even right with the number of people - Jason, Alex, Raven, Mark, Ramses and Cody were the other people to press that button.

And what three weeks of safety for Cody are you talking about? :lol: Paul was the one who got the very first temptation, rendering him immune for the first 3 weeks of the game. I'm pretty sure Evel Dick emphasized that. They gave us a bunch of newbies and a single known entity to vote for this huge power. Nothing like that has ever been kept secret, by the way.
If you don't call this production manupilation, I don't know what it is.
I stand corrected on both points, thank you.

BUT - no one's proven intentional manipulation... Unless you want to assert they hand picked the most sheepish people they could find, for Paul to manipulate to his ends?

It's still a much bigger reason for the way the show has gone so far - the sheepish nature of the dumb slugs in the game helping Paul. Even EvelDick says so.
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Fine, I downloaded the first episode just to screenshot this.

https://s4.postimg.org/sqvlxcz31/2017-08-23_23_47_20-_Greenshot.png

I was even right with the number of people - Jason, Alex, Raven, Mark, Ramses and Cody were the other people to press that button.

And what three weeks of safety for Cody are you talking about? :lol: Paul was the one who got the very first temptation, rendering him immune for the first 3 weeks of the game. I'm pretty sure Evel Dick emphasized that. They gave us a bunch of newbies and a single known entity to vote for this huge power. Nothing like that has ever been kept secret, by the way.
If you don't call this production manupilation, I don't know what it is.
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Animal connection right in front if us for this leg :p

Dog River
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The Amazing Race Discussion / Re: Your Biggest TAR Pet Peeves?
« Last post by nrh2110 on Today at 03:19:10 PM »
Having the starting line always in Southern California. California is a beautiful place , but couldn't you have a starting line elsewhere for a change?

The lack of interesting teams. Who ever casts these teams needs to be fired immediately. Every season , it's the same old schtick. Every team is around 30 years of age and is good looking. This is tiring after how many seasons of it. Time to bring back teams like a mother daughter team or old grandparent team. Enough with the younger good looking teams already.

1. I think it's better they have the start line in Southern California. Since they've made it clear that it will always start or finish in LA, I'd rather have it start in LA, because then we can use the entire final leg to see a new city.

2. Yes that they need more grandparent teams, but I wouldn't say there's been a lack of interesting teams. While there were no "grandparent teams", the casting for 29 was extremely diverse in personalities and characters, and so was 25. 28, while it was a gimmick season also did pretty well in diversifying the cast given the theme of the season. 27 and 26, I will agree mostly that they were very uninteresting. 24 was an All-Stars, but even though the choices for who to bring back were terrible, most of them were interesting and diverse. 23 only seemed to have a bad and uninteresting cast because all the interesting cast members, with the exception of one team (won't say who in case you or someone else hasn't seen it), got out early. 22 and 21 had great diverse casts. 20 was terrible. 19 was okay, but much better than 20. I would also say that this isn't a new thing, they've had terrible casted seasons since the beginning of the show. We can all agree that the casts for 4 and 6 were awful, and I'd even say that 1 had some of the most unmemorable teams. 13 was unmemorable, 14 was mean spirited, 15 had only like 2.5 teams worth rooting for, and 16 was meh. If anything, I'd say their casting is getting much better these days than it has been, they just need to throw in older teams again.
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The Amazing Race Discussion / Re: Your Biggest TAR Pet Peeves?
« Last post by NancyandEmilyfan on Today at 02:54:31 PM »
All these new twists(U-turn , Speed bump , salvage pass). I liked it better when there was just fast forward , roadblocks , and Detours.

The fast pace of the show in recent years is out of hand. Very little time to know the teams and are often left without knowing these people.

Having the starting line always in Southern California. California is a beautiful place , but couldn't you have a starting line elsewhere for a change?

The lack of interesting teams. Who ever casts these teams needs to be fired immediately. Every season , it's the same old schtick. Every team is around 30 years of age and is good looking. This is tiring after how many seasons of it. Time to bring back teams like a mother daughter team or old grandparent team. Enough with the younger good looking teams already.
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