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Title: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Cole on August 10, 2006, 08:14:29 PM
Let put them all here. Until someone figures it out.

one more time :
COUP D’ETAT
Julie then announces a new twist that puts the game on a whole new level: the Coup d’Etat.
Whoever wins this power will have the ability to overthrow the HoH and replace their nominations on the spot at any of the next three evictions.
The Coup d’Etat has an added twist, though, as only the winning HouseGuest will know what they have won, and the power will remain secret until it is used.
The HG will be given clues to a well known BB phrase. The first person to guess it wins. Each HG only has one guess.
The first clue is a sheep , The next clue is the bell .
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2006, 08:14:53 PM
I say: A wolf in sheep's clothing!
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: debirn150 on August 10, 2006, 08:27:01 PM
could be "pulling the wool over their eyes" or "LIke a lamb to the slaughter"
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: nate on August 10, 2006, 08:43:45 PM
I think since CBS made it so obvius that they sheep was a girl (pink bow), and the word for a girl sheep is EWE.

That the answer is   "EWE ARE THE NEW HOH"
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: PsychoJason on August 10, 2006, 08:46:33 PM
I say: A wolf in sheep's clothing!

I'd love to see a wolf released into the Big Brother house next!
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: sandyb on August 10, 2006, 08:48:55 PM
Ewe are safe!    :jumpy:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: chunkylover53 on August 10, 2006, 08:50:02 PM
expect the unexpected.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Nuala on August 10, 2006, 08:50:16 PM
Ewe are evicted........ :lol3:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Nuala on August 10, 2006, 08:54:45 PM
in like a lion and out like a lamb
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: chunkylover53 on August 10, 2006, 08:58:01 PM
Kaysar is not coming back!!! :jumpy: :jumpy: :lol3:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Cole on August 10, 2006, 09:01:18 PM
definately think it will have something to do with

The "Coup d'Etat" will enable one person to overthrow the HOH at a moment's notice.

so maybe not wolf in sheeps clothing but moreso about power or a revolution.

thoughts?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: chunkylover53 on August 10, 2006, 09:02:53 PM
You are the new Head of Household.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: NATE on August 10, 2006, 09:07:26 PM
just had another thought but it doesnt really involve the pink bow

since lamb im thinking food as in food comp and maybe something to do with "LAMB CHOP"

AS IN CHOPPING BLOCK

That could be the phrase
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2006, 09:08:44 PM
Wow, thats not a bad guess Nate!!

Welcome to the board, hope you register and join us on a regular basis!!!

Rob
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 10, 2006, 09:29:39 PM
Baaaaaaaa Bye Bitches !!
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 10, 2006, 09:53:03 PM
theres a Bell on the counter

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Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 10, 2006, 09:54:40 PM
just had another thought but it doesnt really involve the pink bow

since lamb im thinking food as in food comp and maybe something to do with "LAMB CHOP"

AS IN CHOPPING BLOCK

That could be the phrase

Great Guess's everyone !!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: beccaluvswll on August 10, 2006, 11:37:43 PM
Dani already guessed!  So hopefully she guessed too quickly and looses!  After giving this some thought, BB can pretty much pick who they want to win this power.  If all the houseguests guess different ones, they can just pick who said the "correct one" and they have the power!!!  GO JANIE AND HOWIE!!!!
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: h on August 11, 2006, 12:27:17 AM
It's great to finally be back at RFF. Well while I was watching tonight's episode, and as soon as I saw the sheep, I yelled out Dolly. And if you are a big-trivia nut like moi, you will know that Dolly the Sheep was the first mammal ever to be cloned. And that's when I realized DNA has a lot to do with cloning. Season 5's theme was Project DNA, or Project Do Not Assume, so I'm guessing that the phrase is Do Not Assume.b
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 12:33:09 AM
h  :waves: nice to see you sweetie ! Good guess !
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 12:41:29 AM
All of them now know that Danielle guessed Project DNA based on Dolly the sheep.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: GlamGirl3399 on August 11, 2006, 01:24:48 AM
I think it's something to do with the word you...

You are safe

You have been evicted from the BB house

You are the new HOH

There wouldn't be a pink bow on the sheep for nothing. I don't think it's anything to do with DNA b/c Julie said it's a phrase that is said in the BB house...
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 01:38:54 AM
You are HofH ! Love it !!
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Angie008 on August 11, 2006, 01:43:41 AM
Aren't they all in the game a wolf in sheep's clothing..? Not a common phrase though
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Angie008 on August 11, 2006, 01:47:01 AM
 :meow: okay i'm so retarded you all already had that one...back to the drawing board. :jam:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: kerri on August 11, 2006, 08:03:54 AM
i really thought it was pull the wool over someone's eyes...but the bell adds a whole new meaning. hmmmm....bell, ring, buzzer....or is it symbolic of hoh or competitions???? i think it is better to wait than guess early. is dani the only one that has guessed so far???
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 11:13:46 AM
Nerd Herd !!!
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Jeffrey Scott on August 11, 2006, 11:15:01 AM
No, that can't be it or they would have put five sheep with broken glasses and pocket protectors in the house.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 11:15:31 AM
 :lol3:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: TexasLady on August 11, 2006, 11:18:06 AM
i really thought it was pull the wool over someone's eyes...but the bell adds a whole new meaning. hmmmm....bell, ring, buzzer....or is it symbolic of hoh or competitions???? i think it is better to wait than guess early. is dani the only one that has guessed so far???

Just thinking, the HOH door has a door bell.

Everyone is doing great at what it could be.. I'm in awe of your powers. LOL
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: LUCIb3l on August 11, 2006, 11:25:24 AM
When I saw the sheep, I immediately though of 'counting sheeps' to go to sleep...
Couldn't it be: 'You snooze, you lose' or something...
The bell could be a reference to wake-up calls...
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Jeffrey Scott on August 11, 2006, 11:30:26 AM
I think that's too obscure. It needs to be something more well known.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 11:36:10 AM
From the press release
Host Julie Chen also informed the All-Stars of this season's newest twist, the "Coup d'Etat."  For the first time in Big Brother history, a Houseguest will have the chance to win an unprecedented power that could change the way the game is played.  The "Coup d'Etat" gives one person the ability to overthrow the HOH and throw out their nominations on the spot.  Over the next few days, clues to a phrase that relates to the Big Brother game will be given to the All-Stars.  Once they think they know what the phrase is, they will disclose their answer in the privacy of the Diary Room.  The first person to answer correctly will earn the power of the "Coup d'Etat." 
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 12:03:25 PM
Dani & Erika mention the " Big Fly "
I saw it last night in the bug room ..its looks like one of the fake ants on the wall , like a big plastic statue .
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 12:16:33 PM
They also mentioned an apple with a bite out of it .
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: TexasJewel on August 11, 2006, 12:28:07 PM
Just a guess   You reign choose on the fly
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 12:31:26 PM
good guess !! :yaya:
found this :

The EXACT wording of what Julie told the HGs about the COUP
Author: capgirl
Date:   08-10-06 23:37

"I have an announcement to make.


Beginning tonight, there is a *new* power up for grabs that could completely change the course of the game. But, only the person who wins it will know what it is and it will remain a secret to everyone until it is used.

Here's how you can win this power:

Over the next few days, you'll be given clues to a well-known phrase that applies to the Big Brother game. Once you think you know what the phrase is, you will disclose your answer in the privacy of the Diary Room. The first person to answer correctly will win this power and could make Big Brother history by shaking up the game like never before.

But, be careful. You will only have one chance to give your answer so please be 100% sure. The winner will find out who they are and just exactly what this special power is one week from tonight.

Everyone, your first clue is waiting for you in the house....."
 
 
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: TexasLady on August 11, 2006, 12:40:33 PM
Are these the clues so far? A fly, an apple with a bite out of it, a live sheep with a pink bow, a bell. None of it makes any sense to me yet. I don't think Dani got it, DNA seems too easy.  ???
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Mandoli on August 11, 2006, 01:00:48 PM
I don't think Dani got it. How does a bell have connections to DNA?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: supsandalee on August 11, 2006, 01:35:36 PM
Well we use to piss my mom off when supper was ready by ringing a dinner bell and yelling "Slops On"!
So, how about "Ewe are on Slop"  :lol:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Jeffrey Scott on August 11, 2006, 01:35:59 PM
Puddin, I described the rules in my recap also. But thanks for reading.  :meow:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Texan on August 11, 2006, 01:40:36 PM
sheep ~ ewe
Applie ~ bite
Fly  ~ bug?
bell ~ring ? push?

something about coming back to bite you?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: kerri on August 11, 2006, 01:41:24 PM
wasn't there a basket last night too??? i am now thoroughly confused. but if dani guessed dna i think she was wrong.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: kerri on August 11, 2006, 01:43:04 PM
you bit off more than you can chew?

what goes around comes around?

i don't know if any of the hgs will figure this out. lol.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Texan on August 11, 2006, 01:44:39 PM

what goes around comes around?


That is good
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 04:56:53 PM
OK Dani guessed DNA " do not assume "
and Janie told them it had something to do with instant eviction ( how does Janie know this ?)
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 05:57:39 PM
The BELL is for the HG's to ring in when they think they know the phrase .
as far as we heard
Dani was first DNA " do not assume "
James beat CG to the bell so he was second
CG was third but CG seems to think his was wrong .

The HG's can share their gusses .
Also CG meantions an airplane ?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Cole on August 11, 2006, 06:01:09 PM
why do they think Dannie won?

do we know James guess?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 06:03:17 PM
cuz Dani " thinks " she got it  ! I say its stretch .
I haven't heard what the others gussed , if anyone else heard please post .
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: texasgirl on August 11, 2006, 06:17:39 PM
Is the sheep still at the house?
Anyone have a list of all the "clues"?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 11, 2006, 06:31:43 PM
no the sheep is gone
from memory
Bell to ring in if you think you know the phrase
Sheep with pink bow / Ewe
an Apple with a bite
a bean
a fly in the new porta potty in the BY ( we havent seen it yet )
an airplane
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Woodstock on August 11, 2006, 09:20:40 PM
Could the apple with the bite out of it have anything to do with an Adam or Eve?  I know ... I'm grasping.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: gourd girl on August 11, 2006, 09:38:26 PM
Could the apple have anything to do with temtation?
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Post by: gourd girl on August 11, 2006, 09:40:21 PM
sorry... temptation
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 12, 2006, 12:07:53 AM
Welcome gourd girl  :hithere:

New info : The Fly was NOT a clue afterall  !
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Nuala on August 12, 2006, 05:34:01 AM
Texan wow......that was a good thought ...I like your guess!!!

Question about the coup phrase:  They can only guess once right....do they have to guess for each clue or have to know the entire phrase before guessing regardless of which clue it is on?  I hope  my ques. makes sense. :lol3:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: kerri on August 12, 2006, 08:03:27 AM
i've got it!!! ewe will be tempted

but that really seems to be the phrase for this season. and it doesn't include the plane of the bean (any idea what kind of bean it was?). so i guess i do not have it afterall.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Blondie on August 12, 2006, 09:12:25 AM
Sheep-ewe-you
Bean- reap
apple-reap
needle and thread?--sew

Maybe....... you have been eliminated?

You have been nominated
You have been snowed (snow white)


You reap what you sew?????
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: kerri on August 12, 2006, 09:47:48 AM
sheep=ewe
have
bean=been

????

apple=betrayed, lied to, deceived, tempted
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 12, 2006, 07:38:26 PM
The Apple and Airplane talked about were from Juns Luxury comp when she flew to NY ! Nothing to do with BB7 !!
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 12, 2006, 07:45:12 PM
New Clue !

Sheep
Porta potty?
Spool of Thread !!

the first day ( thursday )
Dani guessed DNA
James guessed pull the wool over your eyes
CG ? unknown but guessed .
Erika said she took Dani's guess DNA

so those 4 guessed already

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Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Lisa on August 12, 2006, 07:56:46 PM
"Do Not Assume" (sheep)

"There are no accidents in the BB house" (Port -a potty)
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 12, 2006, 07:58:29 PM
I'm guessing the porta potty was a clue .. just to let you all know thats what I think and my thinking is stupid  :lol:

Over the next few days, clues to a phrase that relates to the Big Brother game will be given to the All-Stars.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 12, 2006, 09:08:20 PM
Howie guessed Wolf in Sheeps clothing .
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: texasgirl on August 12, 2006, 10:26:22 PM
James has said this over and over "you reap what you sow" thats my guess.

Ewe = You
Potty = Reap/Reek?
Needle + Thread= Sow
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 12, 2006, 10:34:59 PM
Not Bad !!

Have not guessed yet  :waves:
Janie
Will
MikeB
Marcy
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Jill_ on August 12, 2006, 11:38:27 PM
If anyone here has already suggested this, sorry   I've been out a lot today.  I wonder if James has it (the coup) as his guess is pull the wool over your eyes.  The big needle on the spool has a big eye.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle

Doesn't seem it should be that simple, though  and BB probably will have more clues.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: howiefan23 on August 13, 2006, 12:51:10 AM
i think it is about holly
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 13, 2006, 01:28:09 AM
i think it is about holly

thats interesting howiefan ? what do you think it is ?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: db_ohno on August 13, 2006, 02:00:30 AM
Sheep=           you
toilet=            can
needle/thread=mend

you can mend??  maybe a start to a phrase?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 13, 2006, 02:29:56 AM
another good one .. :jumpy:
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: texasgirl on August 13, 2006, 04:52:17 PM
I wonder if the clues are in order. Like does 'you' have to be the first word in the phrase because the sheep was the first clue, or are they all scrambled up?

Here are some synonyms from the thesaurus:

Bean=
Bean can also be like when you get hit with something.
Bean can also be your head.
Magic Beans?

Apple=
Apple of your eye
The Big Apple (NYC)
Original Sin
Pick of the litter
Earth/Sphere

Needle + Thread=
Close
Sew
Finish
Mend
Patch
Repair

Maybe that will give y'all some ideas!



Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Will4Pres on August 13, 2006, 05:13:53 PM
Sheep=           you
toilet=            can
needle/thread=mend

you can mend??  maybe a start to a phrase?

you can meld nominations
since coup d'etat can over throw HOH
i think i recall Julie say this power can change a nom with a moments notice

or maybe
you can make
like
you can make fate

Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 13, 2006, 05:31:03 PM
Will/Boogie /James /Dani and I forget who else thinks its  "You reap what you sew"  ( sow)

Lyrics

The Damned

BLACK VISIONS FROM THE SATELLITE SKY
DEAF EARS HEAR NOT THEIR CRIES
FAT JACKALS HOWL AT THE MOON
FLIES BUZZING PLAYING DEATH'S TUNE

NIGHT ENDS BUT THE SUN IT DON'T RISE
TOMBS OPEN AND THE DEAD THEY WILL RISE
BLACK MARKET BUYS YOUR SOUL REAL CHEAP
NO ESCAPING WHAT YOU SOW YOU WILL REAP

PRISONERS OF THE DAMNED, FIND ANOTHER LAND
PLANET OF THE LOST, LAND OF Fire AND FROST
PRISONERS OF THE DEAD, FEAR THE UNKNOWN DREAD
TIDAL WAVES AT SEA SET THE SERPENTS FREE

COUP D'ETAT ON A GLOBAL SCALE
OPPOSITION LOCKED UP IN JAIL
DOMINATION THE GOONS ARE THE BOSS
HUMAN RACE NAILED TO A CROSS
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 13, 2006, 05:52:01 PM
Erika made a good point , shes never heard "You reap what you sew" in the BB house .
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: aprilsvagina on August 13, 2006, 05:56:11 PM
the only 2 clues are the sheep and the spool of thread because next to the spool of thread it said second clue."you reap what you sew"sure fits the 2 clues and it has been said at many nomination ceremonys and all around the house when people talk game.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Amalia on August 13, 2006, 09:09:38 PM
It's a term that's used in Big Brother...I don't recall ever hearing "you reap what you sew", not saying it's never been said, I just don't recall..

Are you sure the porta potty and the bean are not clues?

What I'm thinking is:

You (ewe) have been (bean) eliminated (toilet).

But that doesn't explain the needle and thread, sew, stitch...
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: texasgirl on August 13, 2006, 09:29:46 PM
James has said "you reap what you sow" once at least, I think I've heard him say it a few times.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 13, 2006, 09:31:29 PM
James has said "you reap what you sow" once at least, I think I've heard him say it a few times.
We're pretty sure thats what MikeB guessed ..:)
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: Virgil on August 16, 2006, 10:58:38 PM
This is a wild guess but, how about the phrase "wolf in sheep's clothing"? One clue was a sheep and the second one has a needle and a thread? It would seem that most of the house guests would fall in this category.
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 16, 2006, 11:12:09 PM
thats what Howie guessed but then the 3rd clue , the reaper ..wouldnt fit in .
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: TannerB on August 17, 2006, 02:22:09 AM
I think Mike Boogie was right but still "Wolf in sheep's clothing" could also work with a Grim Reaper but it is a long shot.

If you want to make it literal the wold wore the sheep's wool so it could get close to the sheep, meaning he wanted to kill and eat the sheep. So the Grim Reaper could signafy a dead sheep.

Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: titto on August 17, 2006, 03:33:02 PM
For the last time guys, its not a phrase commonly used in the big brother house! It IS a common phrase that RELATES to the big brother house. Anyways, pretty excited to see who wins tonight but reap what you sow looks like the right answer. Does anyone know what  the deal is with Mike's answer, supposably he only said Reap what you sew, and then janelle went in to add YOU reap what you sew. Anyone know anything about this?
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: puddin on August 17, 2006, 03:41:27 PM
Nope ! your guess is as good as ours . Some sites report that Janie said " you sow what you reap " as that was the order the clues were given
you=ewe
spool = sew
reaper = reap
Title: Re: Thread to post Coup d'Etat Clue Guess
Post by: TexasLady on August 17, 2006, 03:52:27 PM
For the last time guys, its not a phrase commonly used in the big brother house! It IS a common phrase that RELATES to the big brother house. Anyways, pretty excited to see who wins tonight but reap what you sow looks like the right answer. Does anyone know what  the deal is with Mike's answer, supposably he only said Reap what you sew, and then janelle went in to add YOU reap what you sew. Anyone know anything about this?

 :hello2: and  :welcome: titto: I'm hoping Janie gets it and puts a crimp in Bogger's plans.  :snicker: