What thread contains the spec route? I need to look at it again. If 5 is Italy and 3 is Russia, does that leave Ep 4 for Stuttgart?
What thread contains the spec route? I need to look at it again. If 5 is Italy and 3 is Russia, does that leave Ep 4 for Stuttgart?
Did I miss something? Where did Stuttgart destination come from??
Hmmm...the way the third clue is written makes me think that either BJ/Tyler or Eric/Jeremy can't find the roadblock. It says give up their position in the race and that makes me think that they are losing ground to the other teams. Both groups haven't come across any problems yet to this point and with the way they have cruised through the first 3 legs without problems makes me think they are more prone to make a huge mistake.
:groan: You may be right, gingerman. Looks like the "Rome" spoiler was wrong. So how does this square with the Ep. 5 and Ep. 6 TV Guide descriptions. There are lot's more task specific to Sicily described in Ep. 6. The Ep. 5 "build a statue" appears to be a roadblock as we only see Lori doing it. Didn't the desc. of Ep. 6 describe another roadblock. Could this be a double TBC episode?Thats what I've been trying to say, NEL but with next weeks title it sure maybe a TBC
I think "red sleeves" is Eric; you can see him (same shirt) running down a country road with Jeremy.
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hmmm I like your idea of F&B taking the FF Sups !! they are the only team not shown doing a task!Both F/B and D/L are seen running around downtown; if D/L lose out on the FF to F/B, that could drag them to the back of the pack.
hmmm I like your idea of F&B taking the FF Sups !! they are the only team not shown doing a task!
OMG The preview pratically SCREAMS Dave/Lori elimination!!!!!!! I'm so pissed off right now I can't even control myself. Seriously what's up with CBS basically TELLING us who's going to be eliminated??? First Wanda/Desiree getting lost, now this???
I sincerely hope for a twist. If Dave/Lori get eliminated this episode, I'll be really angry with this whole thing. Why don't they give us a list with the winners and the finish order of every episode already??
(sorry about the rant, guys)
OMG The preview pratically SCREAMS Dave/Lori elimination!!!!!!!
OMG The preview pratically SCREAMS Dave/Lori elimination!!!!!!! I'm so pissed off right now I can't even control myself. Seriously what's up with CBS basically TELLING us who's going to be eliminated??? First Wanda/Desiree getting lost, now this???
I sincerely hope for a twist. If Dave/Lori get eliminated this episode, I'll be really angry with this whole thing. Why don't they give us a list with the winners and the finish order of every episode already??
(sorry about the rant, guys)
Dave and Lori were already saved so i think they should get eliminated, and who cares if it screams elimination they have done it plenty of times before [Debbie and Bianca and Hayen and Aaron].
You would think the "Einstein Couple" would be good at puzzles.
QuoteOMG The preview pratically SCREAMS Dave/Lori elimination!!!!!!!
I'm with puddin, it's about time for a NEL. Everyone may be safe. :angel:
OMG The preview pratically SCREAMS Dave/Lori elimination!!!!!!! I'm so pissed off right now I can't even control myself. Seriously what's up with CBS basically TELLING us who's going to be eliminated??? First Wanda/Desiree getting lost, now this???
I sincerely hope for a twist. If Dave/Lori get eliminated this episode, I'll be really angry with this whole thing. Why don't they give us a list with the winners and the finish order of every episode already??
(sorry about the rant, guys)
Dave and Lori were already saved so i think they should get eliminated, and who cares if it screams elimination they have done it plenty of times before [Debbie and Bianca and Hayen and Aaron].
You would think the "Einstein Couple" would be good at puzzles.
You're wrong. In the episode that Debbie/Bianca were eliminated, they showed Patrick/Susan getting lost not them. And when Aaron/Hayden were eliminated, they showed ALL the teams having problems.
And I care if it screams elimination. It takes the suspense out of the show. It's pretty clear that there's not any team behind Dave/Lori.
But then again, who cares about what you think about Dave/Lori?
OMG The preview pratically SCREAMS Dave/Lori elimination!!!!!!! I'm so pissed off right now I can't even control myself. Seriously what's up with CBS basically TELLING us who's going to be eliminated??? First Wanda/Desiree getting lost, now this???
I sincerely hope for a twist. If Dave/Lori get eliminated this episode, I'll be really angry with this whole thing. Why don't they give us a list with the winners and the finish order of every episode already??
(sorry about the rant, guys)
Dave and Lori were already saved so i think they should get eliminated, and who cares if it screams elimination they have done it plenty of times before [Debbie and Bianca and Hayen and Aaron].
You would think the "Einstein Couple" would be good at puzzles.
You're wrong. In the episode that Debbie/Bianca were eliminated, they showed Patrick/Susan getting lost not them. And when Aaron/Hayden were eliminated, they showed ALL the teams having problems.
And I care if it screams elimination. It takes the suspense out of the show. It's pretty clear that there's not any team behind Dave/Lori.
But then again, who cares about what you think about Dave/Lori?
No Debbie and Bianca were seen doing the roadblock much darker at night that everyone else [including SP] telling us their eliminated. Hayden and Aaron were the only team not shown in Hawaii in the eliminations tell their elimination in China. Thats what i was refering too.
And with these racers who knows if a team can be behind them. All we can tell is that Eric and Jeremy and MOJO are well ahead of them.
I know. I'm probably whinning because I don't wanna see Dave/Lori out. It would be, with Wanda/Desiree two teams that I really like eliminated in two weeks.
Hum..somehow you managed to calm me down and give me a little hope. We should totally be TAR partners in the next race.
Maybe someone with sharper eyes can make out this street sign. It looks like "Via P****" but I'm not sure.
Just so I don't get confused: the statues are the Roadblock, right? And the Detour is Bells/Laundry?
Time to add my idea for the Detour Ring or Wring :lol3:
I wouldn't have noticed it myself, except for Banzai's videos. :popcorn: :tup:I guess I need some super X-Ray glasses Slowhatch , I cannot for the life of me make that out ..! MamaMIA
Puddin, so what's your conclusion from clothing match? Is it possible that the roadblock comes before the detour? Also who is behind Lori? Please see my posts on page 5. :waves:
Libra it appears to be one of the people that most likely tells them if the statue is completed or not then hands them the clue .
By the clothing I'd say its all one long day with the detour before the roadblock . See , even Lori's bandana matches .
Ya know Libra I saw someone in the background too but far in the back. Looks like a red shirt. David is in a red shirt but this person has something white down at their feet. It "may" be another team assembling a statue. It takes looking into to. :gman:
QuoteI know. I'm probably whinning because I don't wanna see Dave/Lori out. It would be, with Wanda/Desiree two teams that I really like eliminated in two weeks.
Hum..somehow you managed to calm me down and give me a little hope. We should totally be TAR partners in the next race.
Sorry , I'm already spoken for right Gman and cinni ;) ?
Could the person in the background be Barry? The jacket and pants look similar in color to what he wore in Moscow.
Bell - Mojo, Ray/Y
Laundry - Lake, Dees, BJ/Tyler, David/L (I think the arm is Lori's)
Don't know which detour for Fran/B and E/J, I don't think we can draw conclusion that F/B are going for a FF.
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Is this on the path to the roadblock? I think E/J are in the lead, it seems brighter/earlier in this cap than Mojo.
Unfortunately that pic above doesn't help much, I think it's not in town so it's likely the path to the roadblock.
Unfortunately that pic above doesn't help much, I think it's not in town so it's likely the path to the roadblock.
Or the path to the pitstop which I think is the Segesta temple. It is on Banzai's google pic and you can see the path you have to walk from the parking area. Banzai, can you tell how far it is from the theater to the temple? I guestimated just under a mile.
Banzai, can you tell how far it is from the theater to the temple? I guestimated just under a mile.
Unfortunately that pic above doesn't help much, I think it's not in town so it's likely the path to the roadblock.
Or the path to the pitstop which I think is the Segesta temple. It is on Banzai's google pic and you can see the path you have to walk from the parking area. Banzai, can you tell how far it is from the theater to the temple? I guestimated just under a mile.
Roadblock: Segesta amphitheater
Pitstop: Segesta temple
Is it possible to walk from theater to temple? I see...so E/J could be really ahead on their way to the pitstop and not to roadblock? ???
We see Lake driving in the preview, do you think he's driving to the roadblock?
The last arriving teams which arrived at the Siegestor after darkness (4:46PM) so lets say around 6:00PM since the first three teams seemed to maintain a 2 to 3 hour lead on the others. These teams may not make the first flight and would again fall way behind. But we do see Lake and Michelle together at the Detour with the Double Dees, so we can assume perhaps that all the teams made it onto the early Lufthansa flight. A typical TPTB TAR Bunch Point.
I really think that production is doing thing completely different just to make things more interesting.
Lets expect the unexpected for this episode. ???
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Behind Lori there's something. It's either an extra statue or Lori messed up that one and they threw away. It could be part of the ruin too. Later on we see the orange guy and the woman look at it.
The last arriving teams which arrived at the Siegestor after darkness (4:46PM) so lets say around 6:00PM since the first three teams seemed to maintain a 2 to 3 hour lead on the others. These teams may not make the first flight and would again fall way behind. But we do see Lake and Michelle together at the Detour with the Double Dees, so we can assume perhaps that all the teams made it onto the early Lufthansa flight. A typical TPTB TAR Bunch Point.
also if thats a disassembled statue behind Lori it COULD be that a team took the FF leaving one staue undone .
Of course if the FF is used then everyone above falls back one spot.Good point !!!
just to note Lori & David are above D&D as well as L&M @ Laundry ..you can only see this while watching the video .
Libra this is speculation and is in progress , nothing is written in stone ..most ideas are thrown out and then we piece them together ;) , but I have to admit that you are keeping us on our toes which is a good thing .just to note Lori & David are above D&D as well as L&M @ Laundry ..you can only see this while watching the video .
Puddin, "above", what do you mean? Who's almost done with task?
1) The FF is a possibility, why is everyone saying like it's 100% certain? :-\
2) The completed statue behind E/J could be a demo and they are the first ones. Not certain unless estimate the time.
3) the cap with BJ/Tyler arriving the theater is later in the day, so if completed statue I don't think it's theirs.
just to note Lori & David are above D&D as well as L&M @ Laundry ..you can only see this while watching the video .
Puddin, "above", what do you mean? Who's almost done with task?
1) The FF is a possibility, why is everyone saying like it's 100% certain? :-\
2) The completed statue behind E/J could be a demo and they are the first ones. Not certain unless estimate the time.
3) the cap with BJ/Tyler arriving the theater is later in the day, so if completed statue I don't think it's theirs.
The cap of BJ/Tyler may just look later because the shot is enhanced to black and white.
Behind Jeremy, I see a statue so I think that statue is #8 and not a demo. So statue #9 is a demo and that's where the Roman spoiler was wrong. He saw 9 statues so he thought of 9 teams.
Puddin, I watched the preview before I wrote my post, I thought by "above" you could estimate which team is almost done with the task.QuoteBehind Jeremy, I see a statue so I think that statue is #8 and not a demo. So statue #9 is a demo and that's where the Roman spoiler was wrong. He saw 9 statues so he thought of 9 teams.
Banzai, where is statue #9 (the demo) on your diagram? and what led you to think that it is not a demo? I am lost.
In the preview, Lori laughs and says (looking at statue): "That's funny", the sky is pitch black and she's still in a good mood. A little later she has a meltdown. I just want to make sure that her team is definitely last.
hi libra, I don't know where they put the demo. :(
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If we divide the space evenly, those should be the exact locations of the statues.
ooh, allow me.
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Fran & Barry did not do the Fast Forward. Here's 1 scenario.
Barry: "Hi Dave/Lori, we just came from the FF. You guys are going to the FF too? But we were there. We just came from there."
or,
Dave: "Hi Fran and Barry, we just came from the FF. You guys are going to the FF too? But we were there. We just came from there."
Therefore, Fran/Barry & Dave/Lori did not do the FF.
ooh, allow me.
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Fran & Barry did not do the Fast Forward. Here's 1 scenario.
Barry: "Hi Dave/Lori, we just came from the FF. You guys are going to the FF too? But we were there. We just came from there."
or,
Dave: "Hi Fran and Barry, we just came from the FF. You guys are going to the FF too? But we were there. We just came from there."
Therefore, Fran/Barry & Dave/Lori did not do the FF.
No matter I stand by the spoiler that Franknberries make it to Aussie with the" bungee jump " ( Corinth Greece )as well as the " dive from plane " ( Aussie?) yet to come and done by Fran as pointed out in the spoiler thread .
anyone up for a watch hunt? if not BJ it could be Barry?
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tarflie gallery
http://www.tarflies.com/gallery2/v/tar09/
It could be that Dave/Lori are done with the Detour and are passing Barry/Fran on their way to do it, ruling out a FF for B/F.
If there is a FF, I think it's more likely the other way round - Dave/Lori appears to be the ones who have fallen way behind.
Hi! Another newbie chiming in on this episode...
Where are Dani and Danielle in all of this? I don't ever see them in the preview. Am I missing them?
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Mojo's sunset is here so maybe Chateau can check it out
*wishes that someone answer affirmative and continues to be deluded.*
Awesome vidcaps banzai , so E&J do laundry and thats how Mo-Jo get ahead with Bells a sure thing !! :jumpy:
did anyone save the show or have it recorded because I read on another board that it looked like there was a Green FF ticket in someones hand at the Wall of Death .
It doesn't make sense that there's a FF last eppy and no mention of it! :lol:banzai's TV ;)
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Where does this new one and the other 2 caps come from? Are there any more?
banzai's TV ;)
we need a pic of santa errrr peter errrr the greeter i meanHere you go; everybody (including the racers) keyed on a Santa image, but my first thought was that the producers went out of their way to find someone who looked like the gnome.
Quotewe need a pic of santa errrr peter errrr the greeter i meanHere you go; everybody (including the racers) keyed on a Santa image, but my first thought was that the producers went out of their way to find someone who looked like the gnome.
is that a statue behind Jo? It's white.
And thanks Chateau. You're awesome. :jam:
Kind of an off-topic question: Is the 6 roadblocks per person rule not happening in this race?? I ask this because Phil never mentioned it and because Michelle has not done one single roadblock yet! (and there were at least 2 roadblocks which she should have done)In one of the insider clips last week Michelle said she would have to do the next RB but of course as we know she didn't
Kind of an off-topic question: Is the 6 roadblocks per person rule not happening in this race?? I ask this because Phil never mentioned it and because Michelle has not done one single roadblock yet! (and there were at least 2 roadblocks which she should have done)In one of the insider clips last week Michelle said she would have to do the next RB but of course as we know she didn't
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M: I guess the next one I'm going to have to do Babe
L: Naw we got 6 Roadblocks
M: I know but I have to pull my weight I can't let you just do everything
Hey Puddin, did you see the Donkey?
This picture was taken between 2:50 and 4:11 pm (assumes Nov 14th).
Hey Puddin, did you see the Donkey?
This picture was taken between 2:50 and 4:11 pm (assumes Nov 14th).
Yeah, I am sure it is the Massimo theater.
This shot was taken between 9:24 and 9:33 am (assumes Nov 14th)
The "Here" in the Google Earth image should say "From Here". What I means is the start of the arrow is where the camera is. I know I need a better system. I just drew the arrow from where I figured the camera was over to the tip of the dome because that was my point of triangulation.
Some questions: :gman:
1. Why are Fran/B running past the Massimo Theater, isn't it a little late?
Maybe someone with sharper eyes can make out this street sign. It looks like "Via P****" but I'm not sure.
There are five such stores listed in Palermo...Maporama (http://www.maporama.com/share/), Multimap (http://www.multimap.com/), and Via Michelin (http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHomePage.htm) all do a decent job with European street mapping. There's a couple of Bata stores within spitting distance of the Massimo, but without pictures it's just guesswork.
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we're still looking for the church. Let's find all the churches in Palermo.
we're still looking for the church. Let's find all the churches in Palermo.
This photo shows a typical site in Palermo - the common donkey carriages on the streets that gives tourist a ride through parts of the city for an open air tour.
Church?? Which cap are you trying to match? Do you mean the one in "church bells"?
Maybe the bell task and laundry task are not in Palermo but in a town nearby. Palermo is the largest city in Sicily and those caps don't look like they belong in Palermo.
Church?? Which cap are you trying to match? Do you mean the one in "church bells"?
Maybe the bell task and laundry task are not in Palermo but in a town nearby. Palermo is the largest city in Sicily and those caps don't look like they belong in Palermo.
The church where they try to deliver the bell.
lol, I found the Palermo donkey.
(http://p.vtourist.com/1/480780-Travel_Picture-Palermo.jpg)QuoteThis photo shows a typical site in Palermo - the common donkey carriages on the streets that gives tourist a ride through parts of the city for an open air tour.
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lol, so many churches, puddin ;D
I've been trying to find those buildings with the lightsTuttoCitta (http://www.tuttocitta.it/tc/virtualtour/index.jsp) has some virtual Palermo tours, but I didn't see anything useful.
This picture was taken between 2:50 and 4:11 pm (assumes Nov 14th).
Here’s what the lead teams should do:
Assuming they start by 3:00 am, drive to Milan Italy. The Michelin route (http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?E_wg=210506086lS20J106084234020290875ITIWG4p11133gbr004d112o101c101116100z11032400008bXVuaWNo00001008113hua100131310110x100q11036120007bWlsYW400001100012010010072006084039.004-1.00110001001001001001001003gbr011011&stat=ambiguous_iti&pim=true&dtmDeparture=null&strDestChoice=0&x=20&y=4) says 5 hr 22 min but if you rework the Autobahn parts going 100 mph you will get there in 3 hours and 23 min. That allows you to catch one of the two 6:55 am flight from Milan to Palermo, arriving there at 8:25 am!!
I hope BJ & Tyler do this. :jam:
But how do you know they will be provided with cars? Maybe the Mercedes have already been returned. Also how are they going to figure all this out quickly at 3am without internet access? I say this is unlikely.
But how do you know they will be provided with cars? Maybe the Mercedes have already been returned. Also how are they going to figure all this out quickly at 3am without internet access? I say this is unlikely.
They are pretty smart if you ask me ;) , BJ is a Harvard man afterall :jumpy:
AND, if David is still in Palermo, he has a 100 mile drive on motorway A29 which would take him at least two hours to find the Segesta Greek Theater. And if they look at the map and see that by taking routes S186 amd S113 the distance is only about 60 miles as the crow flies, and if they take this route they will very soon learn that these side roads climb and wind around the mountains and probably take a good deal more time to drive.
GMan, I don't get the same results as you on the driving distance to Segesta. I'm seeing about 43 miles.
This shot of Eric & Jeremy on the path to the amphitheater was taken between 1:24 and 2:22 pm (assumes Nov 14th).
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Here’s what the lead teams should do:
Assuming they start by 3:00 am, drive to Milan Italy. The Michelin route (http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?E_wg=210506086lS20J106084234020290875ITIWG4p11133gbr004d112o101c101116100z11032400008bXVuaWNo00001008113hua100131310110x100q11036120007bWlsYW400001100012010010072006084039.004-1.00110001001001001001001003gbr011011&stat=ambiguous_iti&pim=true&dtmDeparture=null&strDestChoice=0&x=20&y=4) says 5 hr 22 min but if you rework the Autobahn parts going 100 mph you will get there in 3 hours and 23 min. That allows you to catch one of the two 6:55 am flight from Milan to Palermo, arriving there at 8:25 am!!
I hope BJ & Tyler do this. :jam:
Are you watching the travel channel Kogs ? ;)
Slowhatch Via p**g** ? puget ? I dunno
With Eric and Jeremy doesnt it look like Jeremy is pulling semething?
ANYWAY HOPE FOR DAVE AND LORI
Well i watched the preview from after the episode in slow mo [someone plese double check me on this]
And when Dave says "It has to be the thigh" there are tones of done statues but someone is also putting one together [and its NOT LORI] i noticed the clothes black long sleve shirt, grey pants, and like black pants below the grey, and then GUESS who is wearing that LAKE!!! at teh detour he is wearing the same thing. [you can barely see it but i really think its LAKE]. also behind Lori is someone in a Yellow sweat shirt, and like pants [the ones Fran and Barry always wear] and well Barry also has a yellow sweatshirt.
so its VERY POSSIBLE that Fran and Barry, Dave and Lori, and Lake and Michelle are all there together. and unless Lake and Michelle got lost, or sucked at the RB its very possible the Danielle's could be there too just not scene.
Traditionally CBS shows us a team in peril (Dave and Lori) only to have them survive. So that thought that Dave/Lori survive is good.
Another thing is: it is unlikely that Lake will be putting together the statue. He has done all 3 roadblocks so it's Michelle's turn to do one.
Another thing is: it is unlikely that Lake will be putting together the statue. He has done all 3 roadblocks so it's Michelle's turn to do one.
Thanks for trying, puddin! Sadly, I don't know how to lighten the background either.
I'm still trying to figure out how could Dave/Lori screw up so badly. I can't think of anything, so maybe they're not that far behind. Maybe Fran/Berry and Lake/Michelle are just in the same situation.
We know that MOJO, BJ/Tyler and Eric/Jeremy did this task in daylight. But how about the others?? Rayolanda? Double Dee?
I think the roadblock limit is still around, watch the insider clip where Lake talks about it to Michelle.
As for a lightened cap, Boingo already did that, you can see it on page 5.
Unassembled statue etc - all discussed upthread.
I think the roadblock limit is still around, watch the insider clip where Lake talks about it to Michelle.
As for a lightened cap, Boingo already did that, you can see it on page 5.
Unassembled statue etc - all discussed upthread.
Besides, why does Lori looks happy when she finally assemble the statue?? She should be running the hell out of there if she was in fact last.
Or...they just know they're far behind and gave up. :groan:
But the interesting thing is that in the background you can see that in front of many of the buildings the decorative lights are now on. If they are on timers it means that it is just about sunset, which means it is around 4:45PM. AND, if David is still in Palermo
Too much emphasis on the Nerds melting down; the Old Folk are completly under the radar so do we have a typical CeeBeeEss misdirection? Could it be that the Old Folk are toast?
Lazarus, a retired urologist and graduate in the class of '64, and his wife dove from an airplane, bungee-jumped, and scaled buildings in their attempt to beat 11 other couples in the 30-day race across five continents. Although the race is finished, the results are top secret until revealed on television in the course of the season.
The couple, now living in Colorado, is keeping details of the show mum for now, but their friend Marsha Cooper says they were thrilled to be picked for “The Amazing Race.”
“Competing with so many younger people was challenging in the physical viewpoint, but the mechanics were probably easier for them,” Cooper says. “They were very excited and called it a life-altering experience. They talk about the friends they have made and say they’ve been surprised in ways they didn't expect.”
Hi_Fi I tried making that background lighter but it doesnt help , maybe someone else can ?
heres a vidcap of what we think is Lake driving in the countyside
Sorry, I can't be much help; it could be Miss Piggy for all I can see. :-\:lol3: I guess it doesn't matter
Consquently, these three teams could very well catch the 6:35AM Alitalia flight to Palermo via Milan arriving at 10:15AM.
Behind Dave we can see at least four completed statues. Behind Lori there is still a heap on the ground. Is this waiting for the eighth team? Or is this typical TPTB misdirection since they habitually add at least one more than there are teams still in the race just to confuse sleuths who count every little brick.:lol: :werock:
First, how about my local George Mason Patriots; the unknowns belt the Uconns in OT :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
First, a new reference to the Greek Teatre at Segesta now says that the Theatre faces WEST toward the mountains and the setting sun with the ocean to the right.
So it looks like the Beach Boys and the Hippies get to the Teatro, get the Detour clue and race off via van to the location of the alley with laundry. It looks like they may be looking for a piece of clothing with a "Made in the USofA" or some such label as we see teams looking for what appears to be labels along the seams of the clothing. And it looks like the Hippies find it right away and jump up and down with utter joy!
They must find the clue right away if they are to get to the Church on time and get a car to drive to Segesta and arrive at the Amphitheatre at 12:46PM. And the Beach Boys are not far behind as we have them there at 1:24PM.
[interesting , the statues are completed ..could be where Phil describes the Roadblock to us ?
So it looks like the Beach Boys and the Hippies get to the Teatro, get the Detour clue and race off via van to the location of the alley with laundry. It looks like they may be looking for a piece of clothing with a "Made in the USofA" or some such label as we see teams looking for what appears to be labels along the seams of the clothing. And it looks like the Hippies find it right away and jump up and down with utter joy!
They must find the clue right away if they are to get to the Church on time and get a car to drive to Segesta and arrive at the Amphitheatre at 12:46PM. And the Beach Boys are not far behind as we have them there at 1:24PM.
"jump up and down, find right away" - where did you see this??
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interesting , the statues are completed ..could be where Phil describes the Roadblock to us ?
I was just going to say that I bet the hippies are done with the statue Roadblock before Eric & Jeremy even get there when it occurred to me that it looks like they just finished exchanging words with somebody going the other way! Such as BJ & Tyler.
Actually Hi-Fi it was only the after show promo that Lori is shown having a meltdown , honestly no one is shown in trouble in the on-line /tv commercial's . No one drowns and no one faces their fears this time around , imagine that :lol: ?
Kinda off-topic. Didn't Bertram Van Muster (sp?) say that this race would have a lot of name calling between the teams? Or am I imagining things here? If he did say that, I wonder when will the competition get nasty.
So what happens to this team that arrives at the Pitstop ? do they simply drive to the Roadblock ( which is probably in walking distance from the Pitstop ? ) or do they have to take a bus only to the Roadblock which would make them drive more out of the way ??? Does anyone have a good layout of this Temple & the Aphitheatre ?
Sups, here is the comparison that I used:
Also, I bet racer instructions say that they must use the road. They are forbidden to take short-cuts off the road.
So what happens to this team that arrives at the Pitstop ? do they simply drive to the Roadblock ( which is probably in walking distance from the Pitstop ? ) or do they have to take a bus only to the Roadblock which would make them drive more out of the way ??? Does anyone have a good layout of this Temple & the Aphitheatre ?
If the pitstop is the temple (which I suspect -- but you never know), then the team would just run back down and either walk or take a shuttle bus to the theater. The parking for the area is at the temple and there is no parking at the theater.
and maybe thats why we see E&J perhaps passing the Hippies on the path if thats the case ? Good thoughts Sups !!!!!!!!! :jumpy:
Yahoo's been right on with the order
this week
The Amazing Race 9
10:00 PM ET -CBS-
Tonight, one duo gets lost on their way to the road block and ends up at the pit stop instead. Whoops! During a detour, teams frantically try to locate a marked item of clothing among 2,400 pieces of laundry, and one player has a meltdown while trying to assemble a statue
One problem is we are not 100% sure that the pit stop is Segesta Temple. This is just a logical guess.
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Chateau, you told me to look at the direction, can you explain why you think they are heading to the theater and not the temple (if it is indeed the pit stop) because the path curves around?
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Chateau, you told me to look at the direction, can you explain why you think they are heading to the theater and not the temple (if it is indeed the pit stop) because the path curves around?
Libra, I had the same question and Chateau explained it well in post #306. The only problem I'm still having is that the road looks more like a wide path and there are no tire markings like in a pic I posted on the supposedly same road (post #301).
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Chateau, you told me to look at the direction, can you explain why you think they are heading to the theater and not the temple (if it is indeed the pit stop) because the path curves around?
Libra, I had the same question and Chateau explained it well in post #306. The only problem I'm still having is that the road looks more like a wide path and there are no tire markings like in a pic I posted on the supposedly same road (post #301).
supsandalee, I read all the posts including post #306 but I don't get it. Which direction are E/J heading in the cap? NW? If so, isn't it the right direction to the temple?
That picture with the numbered statues, the one with Lori as a label thats NOT LORI, ITS LAKE look at the clothes.then where's Lori ? because Dave is sure looking at someone ? I cant get a zoom never ..it just blurrs everything up.
off topic , banzai whats your predictions for this Ep ? just curious ?
The only shot of someone driving is that of Lake who seems to be out in the country as the sun is setting since we see no sun nor shadows. Have they take S113? Did they not watch TAR8 and see what happened to the Weasels??
If Chateau can calculate the time, that'll be helpful.
:waves:It's that time again: what do we know and what do we not know ??? First, I'm pretty sure that this is another elimination leg and certainly not another TBC nor the first NEL. At first we thought we might have our first FF, but I think that and the first NEL will come next week which will be leg 5 (episode 6 but only leg 5 since leg 3 was a double episode) which has been the traditional leg when we find our first FF and first NEL (of course, TPTB have been shaking things up so we may have to wait for leg 6) But here goes a lot of nothing:
1. The teams all start off at the Pit Stop in Munich, Germany. The first three teams arrived before sunset which was at 4:45PM, so they will be leaving before 4:45AM in the following order: The Beach Boys, The Hippies, and Lake/Michelle. They most likely will receive the clue to drive to the Munich Airport (MUC) and proceed to find a flight to Palermo, Italy (PMO). If they don't get lost, they may make the first Alitalia flight departing at 6:35AM and via Rome arrive at 10:15AM
2. Next to leave would be our friendly Old Folk at Home, who arrived at the pit stop just after sunset or a little after 5:00PM. Now they would have to hurry to make the Alitalia flight, but I do not think they will make it since we have them arriving at the first clue stop in Palermo in early afternoon and not the morning. The last teams to leave are the Nerds, Mo/Jo, Raylanda, and the Double Dees in that order. They all will not leave until the 9:35 Lufthansa flight 3856 arriving via Rome at 1:25PM or 2:00PM depending upon what connection they can make in Rome.
3. Unless something has been completely hidden from us, the teams get into taxi-vans at the airport and drive to the Piazza Verde and locate the Teatro Massimo. We have a shot of two vans approaching Piazza Verde and since the sun is partially obscurred by the buildings, it looks like they are arriving around 2:00PM. The only shot we have of an actual team on the ground is that of Fran and Barry who run across the front of the Teatro and seem to be heading to a clue box to their left. The time for this scene has been estimated to be 2:50PM.
4. Again, there may be some place to go first, but it looks like the next order of business is the DETOUR. Two tasks with their own pros and cons. In the first task, you have to locate a certain neighborhood street, bestowed with laundry hanging between buildings. The task is to find a certain article of clothing with a particular label inside (perhaps MADE IN THE USofA!) The task is not physical but could take a long time to complete. We have called this task WRING (like wring around your collar). The second task is to locate a certain foundry or metal workshop and pick up a large cast-iron bell and first carry it down the narrow hilly streets to the harbor embankment where you have to load the bell upon a famous Sicilian donkey cart and then transport it along the harbor embankment road (via Della Cala) to the church of Santa Maria della Catena. This is not a difficult task but it is physical and may take more strength than you think We call this task RING (as in Ring-a-ding-ding).
5. We have spotted The Hippies (who seem to find the clue very quickly), The Beach Boys, The Nerds, The Double Dees, and finally Lake and Michelle doing the laundry task. Now this seems to bring up a question: why are Lake and Michelle now together with teams that left almost three hours after them from Munich? One possibility is that they went to try the RING task first, got lost, couldn't find the right shop, or found the bell too heavy to carry and then had to go back and try to find the correct street with the laundry. All we know is that something happened, but we do not know what. Or, they may have missed the flight after getting lost in Munich, or had some penalty leveled on them which we are not aware of.
6. The teams of MO/JP and Raylanda have been spotted working with the bells and not seeming to have much trouble with them and probably will finish rather quickly (ahead of the laundry searchers except for BJ/Tyler and Eric/Jeremy who once again have established a two or three hour lead over the competition.
7. The clue at the end of the Laundry or Bell task seems to be located at the Church of Santa Maria della Catena. We have David and Lori running along Via Della Cala as darkness falls and the lights around the harbor come on. They may have tried the Bell first but changed their minds and ran back to the laundry bit as they pass Barry and Fran who seem to have finished the job.
The clue has them pick up new Fiat coupes and drive themselves to the ancient Temple and Amphitheatre at Segesta. A distance of about 74 kilometers. The fastest way is to drive along the motorway A29 along the shore rather than the "seemingly shorter" route over the mountains on S113 (shades of Ma Weaver's disasterous choice in Utah). The only shot of someone driving is that of Lake who seems to be out in the country as the sun is setting since we see no sun nor shadows. Have they take S113? Did they not watch TAR8 and see what happened to the Weasels??
8. At Segesta, they must park their cars in the parking lot at the foot of the mountain, and then climb up the path/roadway to the Greek Theatre. This is the path to the LEFT from the parking lot. It is about .82 miles up to the Theatre. Here they face the ROADBLOCK. The task is to assemble a statue from the parts all lying in a pile. They only have a model to go by but no other instructions (in fact, they may have no model nor instructions for that matter). It seems that BJ and Tyler arrive first around 12:45PM (the last place teams, by the way, haven't yet arrived in Palermo!) Second to arrive is probably The Beach Boys. When we see them on the path near the entrance of the Theatre it is now around 2:00PM and BJ/Tyler may pass them as they arrive and the Hippies are leaving. When we see Eric working on the statue, we can see one completed statue off to the left nearer the entrance. The clue upon completing the statue is to travel the 1.2 miles by foot to the ancient Temple located below the Theatre. This is pit stop for this leg of the race. The last team to arrive here may be eliminated.
9. It looks like BJ/Tyler and the Beach Boys finish one - two once again (do they have a deal to alternate the winning legs??)
10. The next team who we see working on the statue is MO of MO/JO fame. She seems to be right in the middle of the hemisphere shaped theater. The sun is now nearing its setting time of 4:54, but there is still time to go since we can see some sun shining on the hills in the background, and on JO as he waits on the entrance-way wall (one completed statue - BJ's - can be seen behind him (at least the head of the statue can be seen). So our guess is that MO/JO finishes third.
11. We do not see any other team except David and Lori working on the statues. But when we see them working, it is now just turning dark since the sky and silhouette of the hills can still be seen. And we know they were still down in Palermo at the harbor as the sun was setting. Nothing on Barry and Fran, nor Ray and Yolanda, nor Lake and Michelle, nor the Double Dees. So we can only guess what happens. But when we see David and Lori, it seems that at least four other statues have been completed perhaps even as many as six. So is it down to David and Lori and Lake and Michelle.
12. We have a hint that one team walked up the path to the right directly to the Ancient Temple and found Phil at the welcome mat. But they were not welcome and were told that they would have to go back to the parking lot and take the correct path up to the Theatre. Maybe they also received a 30 minute penalty for not following directions correctly. So it must have been a very frustrating day for Lake and Michelle. So are they the ones who are Philiminated this week? Or is CeeBeeEss really showing us that the Nerds are in deep doodoo? That is not the usual pattern of misinformation they like to heap upon us. My guess, Lake and Michelle do not pass Palermo, they do not collect one miliion dollars.
This is open to everyone's own ideas. Probably a lot of little things like places to visit, etc. etc. which we have utterly no clue about at all. But we do seem to have a more or less correct time table of major events. At least I hope so.
I think Banzai is right that Lake/M arrive at laundry detour first. I agree they are most likely on the earlier flight and don't see how they can squander a huge 3+ hour lead (don't think they switched tasks).
M Y S T E R Y
The burning question remains: WHAT HAPPENED TO LAKE AND MICHELLE?
If they left Munich on the early 6:35AM flight to Palermo, and the other trailing teams not until 9:25AM, how in the world did they end up together with the bottom feeders, The Nerds and The Double Dees, at the laundry quest? Especially, if they arrived first in the alleyway at 11:00AM?
Even if the trailing teams were able to catch the 7:00 flight, they would not arrive until 11:20AM
M Y S T E R Y
The burning question remains: WHAT HAPPENED TO LAKE AND MICHELLE?
If they left Munich on the early 6:35AM flight to Palermo, and the other trailing teams not until 9:25AM, how in the world did they end up together with the bottom feeders, The Nerds and The Double Dees, at the laundry quest? Especially, if they arrived first in the alleyway at 11:00AM?
Even if the trailing teams were able to catch the 7:00 flight, they would not arrive until 11:20AM
Dag Gummit
My theory is that the have to do a mystery task in Italy before the laundry tasks. And it is here were we have bunching due to hours of operation.
My theory is that the have to do a mystery task in Italy before the laundry tasks. And it is here were we have bunching due to hours of operation.They very well may have to do a task on the way from the Airport into the city. The airport is a ways out of town, and they might have to stop first at such places as:
8:39 or 7:39?
8:39 or 7:39?
Well your from New Jersey and you know I'm from Pa. ,you could figure it out ... thats why God gave us 10 fingers and 10 toes ;) the times are Eastern Time .
Well I'm not up early enough to watch the Early show to know that ..its just on too Early for me :js:
but I'm not normal :jam:
half of america wants revange. north vs south baby lets do it!!!!!!!!
I want my HDTV !If you have line-of-sight to Mt. Wilson, you might be able to get and record over-the-air HD for free. If you're stuck with Comcast HD like me, then fuggedaboutit...it's all encrypted and analog is the only thing recordable. :'(
Lake and Michelle really fit our mold: missed the flight, missed the connection, wasted time at the laundry,went up the hill to Pit Stop instead of to the theatre. They just didn't deserve to not lose and had to use that #$#@$%$%^&&*&**(()&*&^^%$%#@$&^* Yield to beat out the Double Dees. Well only one more yield left
Lake and Michelle really fit our mold: missed the flight, missed the connection, wasted time at the laundry,went up the hill to Pit Stop instead of to the theatre. They just didn't deserve to not lose and had to use that #$#@$%$%^&&*&**(()&*&^^%$%#@$&^* Yield to beat out the Double Dees. Well only one more yield left
Despite the Yield, it was D's inability to complete the statue on her first and second try that made them lose to RayLonda.
Still, I am most definitely looking forward to Lake's comeuppance. I wonder if E/J will Yield L/M in retribution? Time, as they say, will tell.
Lake and Michelle really fit our mold: missed the flight, missed the connection, wasted time at the laundry,went up the hill to Pit Stop instead of to the theatre. They just didn't deserve to not lose and had to use that #$#@$%$%^&&*&**(()&*&^^%$%#@$&^* Yield to beat out the Double Dees. Well only one more yield left
Despite the Yield, it was D's inability to complete the statue on her first and second try that made them lose to RayLonda.
Still, I am most definitely looking forward to Lake's comeuppance. I wonder if E/J will Yield L/M in retribution? Time, as they say, will tell.
It was the Yield that lost the game for the girls, no ifs ands or butts, i find it hard to believe it took them that much longer. the only thing that might have made it longer is it was obvious the girls went to the car to get more clothes in in case of a NEL.
The Dees also had a "jerkoff"[my like new favorite word] as a judge, who like i said believe two other teams from the caps at TAR files had the same mistake. DAMM ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS SHIFT THE FREAKING PEICE!
I feel this was one of the Dee better legs looking back.
They also said the Yield did them in , the 30 minutes killed them . Also they said that they would Race again any day but would carry a purse because they packed to much and didn't want to part with there 2000$ worth of clothes , they wanted to forward their clothes home but had no money to do so .
also they said if they could do the race over they would not have left the pouch at the pool because once they got behind they could not catch up , they say it was their biggest mistake .
They like all the teams except whats hisface , they didn't like him much before he yielded them so its doesn't matter .
Sounds like they still stay in touch with E&J , thats not to hard to figure out .
The girls admit that it was harder than they thought but knowing what they know now they would do it the right way the next time around and would do All-Stars in a heartbeat ..one more thing , they hope E&J win .
Again it drives me crazy. I want to protest to AR that teamwork has nothing to due with winning the race. And yet every season Phil says it at the starting line. Teams with better teamwork most of the time go out so early [the 4 teams this season, and whole first half of AR6]
Again it drives me crazy. I want to protest to AR that teamwork has nothing to due with winning the race. And yet every season Phil says it at the starting line. Teams with better teamwork most of the time go out so early [the 4 teams this season, and whole first half of AR6]
I disagree. Scott/John were not working well together for sure. Lisa/Joni and Wanda/Desiree were fighting towards the end. The only exception are the Danni girls, but they weren't screwed up by bad teamwork, they were screwed up by Lake and the yield.
They also said the Yield did them in , the 30 minutes killed them . Also they said that they would Race again any day but would carry a purse because they packed to much and didn't want to part with there 2000$ worth of clothes , they wanted to forward their clothes home but had no money to do so .
also they said if they could do the race over they would not have left the pouch at the pool because once they got behind they could not catch up , they say it was their biggest mistake .
They like all the teams except whats hisface , they didn't like him much before he yielded them so its doesn't matter .
Sounds like they still stay in touch with E&J , thats not to hard to figure out .
The girls admit that it was harder than they thought but knowing what they know now they would do it the right way the next time around and would do All-Stars in a heartbeat ..one more thing , they hope E&J win .
Say more because I am about 5 miles from Mount Wilson.I don't want Puddin mad at me for straying too far OT, so I'll keep it brief. The big networks (and some smaller metro channels) offer free over-the-air hd programs (primer (http://www.myfreehdtv.org/body.html) and government site (http://www.dtv.gov/index.html)). The traditional model is antenna>set-top box>hd monitor/tv. Some manufacturers (ATI,Dvico,etc.), though, offer capture cards that let you watch and record hd content directly on the computer. However...do your research thoroughly. Reception is the key, without it you've got a very expensive paperweight. Antennaweb (http://antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx) is a good place to start. And before you commit any cash, find a retailer that will allow returns for bad reception (but good equipment). TVGuide and TitanTV both provide listings that distinguish hd programming (TAR and Survivor are both hd).
The Double Ds and Ray&Yolanda were not as closed as the amazing editors wanted us to think. Did you all noticed that the double Ds had on jackets that they did not have during the Roadblock?