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Title: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2005, 12:49:05 PM
I moved them here because its too confusing

I edited in the rest of the vidcaps from Blows ..I had no idea the promo would help so little.
Vicaps from TARflies  (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery/tar07_10?page=20)

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Taken from and thanks to TeamJoisey  (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1137.shtml) @ Blows RealityTV World  \|]

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18.(http://img133.echo.cx/img133/7826/427819cb39ad23fa6zm.jpg) LittleBayInn
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Flash Intro

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Trident Hotel (http://www.tridentjamaica.com/welcome.html)


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San Juan Puerto Rico  (http://209.192.229.88/ca/common/index.php?lng=ENG&div=EF&nav=EF&page=N09)
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Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on May 04, 2005, 02:56:23 PM
Thanks Puddin.....

R?a in same clothes in the group run and the slip...must be a detour.  Amber in bathing suit must be after bridge jump.  Rob carriing her...are they behind or ahead?

Can not believe Kelly is asking Ron about commitment in the final leg of the race!!!!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 04, 2005, 03:11:28 PM
Preceding cap #1 they show R&K going down an airport-like walkway.  I think it is at Heathrow because the signs say "Trains every 15 min"  which would be for the Heathrow Express from Paddington.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2005, 07:33:19 PM
I posted this in the other thread but while looking for bridges , I found a connection ..the JUTA Tour most likely takes the teams to the Rafting task .
JutaTours River Rafting   (http://www.jutatoursnegrilltd.com/RiverRaft_5303lg.htm)
(http://img29.echo.cx/img29/4565/riverraft5303lg5wx.th.jpg) (http://img29.echo.cx/my.php?image=riverraft5303lg5wx.jpg)
YEP the Taxi Van that Ucheena & Joyce get the flat tire

J.U.T.A tours  (http://www.jutatoursnegrilltd.com/JUTACoaster_7543lg.htm)

(http://img135.echo.cx/img135/8329/jutacoaster7543lg2mf.th.jpg) (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=jutacoaster7543lg2mf.jpg) (http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5808/jutabuild7575lg7tq.th.jpg) (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=jutabuild7575lg7tq.jpg)





The Negril Chapterof JUTA is pleased to provide a wide variety of services to our visitors both as tour packages and taxi services to the destination of your choice.

We provide the following Airport Transfer Services: Montego Bay to Negril; Montego Bay to Ocho Rios; Montego Bay to Kingston; Montego Bay to Port Antonio: Kingston to Negril; Montego Bay to Treasure Beach; and Negril to Port Antonio. For Airport Transfer Rates to locations, click on Airport Transfer desired.

http://www.jutatoursnegrilltd.com/tour&taxiservice.htm
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 04, 2005, 09:30:37 PM
Carpet on walkway looks like our famous LONDON AIRPORT carpet!  We saw similar when R/A arrived from Frankfurt.  Where are Uchenna and Joyce in shots 5, 7 and 6  ?  Note that sign on wall points to FIRE and FIRE HOSE all very typical american English. And very fre other people around.  Strange.  He also is carrying his plastic shopping bag so must be after the first hour mugging.

Amber and Rob on plane look very happy and no other teams seems to be around.  Flight looks like a wide-bodied American Airlines jet with blue fabric seats, red blanket and cabin attendent with blue apron.  Flight from Puerto Rico to Miami since they seem to be wearing same stuff that they were wearing in the islands and not in London.

And if this is near the end of the race, what in the world are Rob and Amber doing still lugging those big, hieavy backpacks around. Dump the stuff and buy new stuff with your milliion bucks!! Travel light as you can near the end.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2005, 09:48:21 PM
LOL , I found Ron's water bottle   {l{
(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/3633/tar7103177dw.jpg)(http://img239.echo.cx/img239/6710/dscn10935vz.th.jpg) (http://img239.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn10935vz.jpg)
Catherines Peak (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.infomotions.com/gallery/jamaica/Images/DSCN1093.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.infomotions.com/gallery/jamaica/Pages/DSCN1093.shtml&h=640&w=480&sz=65&tbnid=Q15Kb3Yx4lkJ:&tbnh=135&tbnw=101&hl=en&start=21&prev=/images%3Fq%3DKingston%2BJamaica%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2005-04,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 04, 2005, 09:51:38 PM
Good eyes puddin.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2005, 10:19:42 PM
lol,  (%# anyway I was looking for that bridge structure in 12 & 13 , I think its some sort of conveyer belt bridge or a bucket ,  I think ..like maybe a ship or barge of some sort goes under then they shoot whatever Ore, Sugar , Coffee into it ?
This isn't it but you can see what I mean here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cybex-mining.co.uk/REF%2520512.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cybex-mining.co.uk/REF%252051%2520103%2520180m%2520Gantry%2520Conveyor.htm&h=576&w=833&sz=36&tbnid=1bvd-oZUfUYJ:&tbnh=98&tbnw=142&hl=en&start=45&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dconveyor%2Bbelt%2B%2Bmining%26start%3D40%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2005-04,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 05, 2005, 12:16:03 AM
I think that the bridge is not  bridge.

The bauxite mine (probably the tall white building) has shafts that run down the mountains on conveyors to get the ore down to bay area in Ocho Rios.  I am sure that shaft/conveyor is what they are jumping from.  A bridge would have some sort of road surface and I do not see that.  You can see where there is that platform thing, sticking out at the level they are jumping. 

One heck of a roadblock.


Sorry no pics to back this up, looked for quite a while, but I did find reference to the conveyors on an ATV site, Ocho Rios.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: MF41 on May 05, 2005, 08:35:56 AM
Picture 1 supports my theory that Kelly goes shopping cause she's holding lipstick  ;;)

I think the bridge jump is more of a detour that both team members have to do as opposed to a roadblock that only one does.

I can hardly wait until next Tuesday night!!!!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 05, 2005, 08:55:39 AM
Picture 1 supports my theory that Kelly goes shopping cause she's holding lipstick  ;;)


Kelly is breaking down and crying.  I think Kelly is holding a used rolled Kleenex.  Additional photos from Tarflies.

(http://www.tarflies.com/albums/tar07_10/tar7_10_308.jpg)
(http://www.tarflies.com/albums/tar07_10/tar7_10_306.jpg)
(http://www.tarflies.com/albums/tar07_10/tar7_10_307.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 05, 2005, 09:16:33 AM
A couple of notes about the vidcaps:

In vidcap #11, Uchenna, Joyce, and Ron are wearing the same clothes as they are in RaceyGirl's San Juan airport photos.

In vidcap #22,  Rob and Amber are racing through an airport in an English speaking country.  Note the yellow arrow sign.  It says Boarding Pass Only.  You can see the sign more clearly in Dreamer's@jokersupdates vidcaps http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheAmazingRace&Number=1754983&page=1&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&mrd=1115301379 

Also note that others at the airport are wearing light clothes such as shorts.  The airport is probably in Florida.  Could it be the connection from London to Miami? to Jamaica ?  I don't think so because Rob is wearing shorts (see Dreamer vidcaps).  It looked kind of cold in London so I don't think that Rob would start out wearing shorts.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2005, 09:42:58 AM
No promo up yet , are they messing with us? ]*]

Here are some vidcaps from Dreamer@ Jokersupdates (http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheAmazingRace&Number=1754983&page=1&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&mrd=1115301379) , thanks for letting me know that she had them up  ]**]
If Romber are in the grey car who's in the white wagon?
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Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 05, 2005, 10:06:37 AM
In vidcap #22,  Rob and Amber are racing through an airport in an English speaking country.  Note the yellow arrow sign.  It says Boarding Pass Only.

Also note that others at the airport are wearing light clothes such as shorts.  The airport is probably in Florida.  Could it be the connection from London to Miami? to Jamaica ?  I don't think so because Rob is wearing shorts (see Dreamer vidcaps).  It looked kind of cold in London so I don't think that Rob would start out wearing shorts.
I think the aiport is San Juan.  Look at this picture from Tarjunkie999 from blows found of San Juan aiport.  It looks like a match for the ceilings.

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: atimberger1 on May 05, 2005, 10:23:17 AM


The bottle in Joyce's hand looks similar to that of Ron's.

(http://img104.echo.cx/img104/5185/tar7finale319ae.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2005, 10:35:38 AM
eta: welcome atimberger1 , glad to have you here  |#' , It could be the same label on the bottle but she could have carried it with her from place to place  ? Is anyone famaliar with Jamaica airports ?

Racey girls pictures P/R ~
Thread here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,5328.0.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/AnotherIdiotInBlack/000000.jpg)

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Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 10:52:44 AM
There were 5 non-stop AA flights from San Juan to Miami on Decmber 18th, 2004:

Flight      Dep                 Arr
AA1114      7:15 am   9:52 am
AA1612      8:40 am   11:24 am
AA1550      10:35 am   1:16 pm
AA1350      12:55 pm   3:35 pm
AA1236      2:41 pm   5:28 pm

Do we know what time that Ron & Kelly (team wearing blue) were spotted on their flight to Miami?
Do we know what time the San Juan airport photos of U&J and Ron were taken on 12/18/04?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 05, 2005, 11:04:41 AM
Edited: Ottopart, thanks.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2005, 11:41:52 AM
There were 5 non-stop AA flights from San Juan to Miami on Decmber 18th, 2004:

Flight      Dep                 Arr
AA1114      7:15 am   9:52 am
AA1612      8:40 am   11:24 am
AA1550      10:35 am   1:16 pm
AA1350      12:55 pm   3:35 pm
AA1236      2:41 pm   5:28 pm

Do we know what time that Ron & Kelly (team wearing blue) were spotted on their flight to Miami?
Do we know what time the San Juan airport photos of U&J and Ron were taken on 12/18/04?


I would only look at the following flights which use Airbus 300-600 wide body equipment with a center section with four seats abreast: AA1114
AA1612
AA1350
The other flights: use a middle aisle Boeing 757 with three seats on each side of the aisle. And since we see Rob and Amber in a four-seat middle section they must be on the flight using a Airbus 300-600 plane.

Are we sure of the December 18 date? From the look of the RaceyGirl pictures it looks like that date 12/18/04 was added after the fact and was not recorded on the picture at the time it was taken. Also note the copyright (C) which has been added. No camera I know of adds (C) when the picture is taken. 

At one time I thought everyone was sure that the final leg of the race ran on December 17.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2005, 12:12:04 PM
An interesting note. Between pix 30, Ron and Kelly walking through Heathrow Airport (sign above says "Fastest Way to Cenral London")and pix 31 Ron and Kelly having heart to heart chat sitting somewhere else both Ron and Kelly have changed their shirts! In pix 30 Kelly is wearing black open shirt and carrying blue shirt. Ron is wearing long-sleeve shirt with open collar and it looks like he has backpack hooked over his right shoulder.  And it looks like the same clothes that Ron is wearing in Racegirl's Puerto Rico pix. So is pix 31 much later in the game and actually is in Puerto Rico airport waiting for plane to take them to Miami? Their conversation seems more like something they would get into near the very end of the race.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2005, 01:32:59 PM
Voice over
Phil: Next week on the 2 hour season finale of the Amazing Race
Kelly< crying > : I Love You
Phil: as Ron & Kellys relationship his bottom
Ron: I'm not ready to make that commitment
Kelly : your breaking my heart
Phil: While Rob & amber have a run in with the law
< male >Are you kidding me
Rob : that cops gonna cost us a million bucks
Joyce : what was that
flat tire
Ucheena: unbeleivable
Phil : and hopes to deflate  for Uchenna & Joyce
Joyce : no fricking way !
Rob < through airport > this way this way 
Phil : its a race to the finish
Joyce : can we please make it ? its a race  can we make on this  flight <crys> I dont know what were going to  do ?
Ron < water bottle taxi > Please Lord let help us be the first team
Phil: as one of these three teams collects one million dollars
< jump from bridge > Woohoohohoho
Rob < piggy back Amber > come on baby a million bucks
Phil : as winners of the Amazing Race


Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2005, 01:49:51 PM
Promo is up , thanks Pedaler , thats pretty much it guys , lack of Ron & Kelly's faces ..I'll replay it later and snag a few more and lighten them up a bit  :<(

50 (http://img56.echo.cx/img56/1737/13eb.jpg)
Amber: I cant run
Rob: jump on my back

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56 (http://img56.echo.cx/img56/2102/71kf.jpg)
Kelly  : I beleive my heart that this ?? the one
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VO: only three teams remain
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Ucheena : I have never been more proud to be Joyces Husband
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65 (http://img56.echo.cx/img56/8076/182pb.jpg)
VO: Rob and  Amber  Uchenna and Joyce  and Ron & Kelly
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69 (http://img56.echo.cx/img56/2516/308ah.jpg)
VO: who will win the Amazing Race ? dont miss seasons finale CBS Tuesday
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Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 05, 2005, 02:00:51 PM
There were 5 non-stop AA flights from San Juan to Miami on Decmber 18th, 2004:

Flight      Dep                 Arr
AA1114      7:15 am   9:52 am
AA1612      8:40 am   11:24 am
AA1550      10:35 am   1:16 pm
AA1350      12:55 pm   3:35 pm
AA1236      2:41 pm   5:28 pm

Do we know what time that Ron & Kelly (team wearing blue) were spotted on their flight to Miami?
Do we know what time the San Juan airport photos of U&J and Ron were taken on 12/18/04?


Raceygirls post said she was on AA flight 1350 SJU to Miami on December 18th and that the teams were NOT on her flight.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 05, 2005, 02:08:17 PM
Pic #7

With Rob And Amber, on airplane, smiling.   Notice the girl directly behind them, she has a blanket wrapped around her.  That is something that I would do if I had a long flight of me.  Sure that would mean flight from London to Jamaica.



btw, I am in from sucks, since they dont have alot of peoples talking spoiling, since the MBR thing (lucsky24)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 02:18:38 PM
Thanks supssandalee, I got to think about this a little more!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 05, 2005, 02:25:57 PM
Quote
With Rob And Amber, on airplane, smiling.   Notice the girl directly behind them, she has a blanket wrapped around her.  That is something that I would do if I had a long flight of me.  Sure that would mean flight from London to Jamaica.


Welcome, Lucy.  It's not as frantic here.  There's too much fun yet to be had investigating vid caps.

I don't think the plane is coming from London.  Most of the passengers are wearing short sleeve shirts.  You wouldn't expect people leaving damp and cold London with short sleeves.  Remember you could see everyone's breath at the last pit stop.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on May 05, 2005, 02:29:25 PM
First off ~ Welcome to all our new posters!!! Glad to have you!

Great spot about Kelly changing shirts....I do not think they would have alot of extra money to get her new clothes and do not think Amber gave her clothes.

The comment the race takes 2 to win leads me to think R/K do not win...she will be so upset with him at that point I do not think she will care about winning the race.

Amber i can not run ~ is thsi misdirection or foreshadowing that they lose in a foot race?

And the pic of rob and amber in the cab ~ like them or not they seem to really care about each other and get along great.  Good for them.

And Uchenna's comment ~ he is such a great guy. 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2005, 02:43:38 PM
welcome guys & gals Lucy/Lucky I actually wanted to invite you over her a few times I'm glad you found your way  ]**]

not much to add , did anyone watch the promo (http://video.cgi.cbs.com/video/video_smil.pl/?intro=&ad=&url=g2demand/entertainment/primetime/amazing_race7/insider/preview.rm&adpos=&card=&track=&adname=&introname=&name=Preview%20-%20:30&vcon=/primetime/amazing_race7/insider/chapter6896&hb=DM54012136FE&tunein=http://wwwimage.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race7/insider/images/tunein.jpg&tuneindur=3&tuneout=http://wwwimage.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race7/insider/images/tuneout.jpg&tuneouthref=&proto=rtsp) ? Chills and goose bumps  }^/
Lost Without You Lyrics (http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Lost-Without-You-lyrics-Delta-Goodrem/BFB1B4DE30E3E05248256CF60006719E)

All I know is I'm lost without you I'm not gonna lie
How am I going to be strong without you I need you by my side
If we ever say we'd never be together and we ended with goodbye don't know what I'd do? I'm lost without you
I keep trying to find my way but all I know is I'm lost without you
I keep trying to face the day I'm lost without you

If I could only hold you now and make the pain just go away
Can't stop the tears from running down my face
Oh
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 05, 2005, 02:47:04 PM

The comment the race takes 2 to win leads me to think R/K do not win...she will be so upset with him at that point I do not think she will care about winning the race.


Just to play devil's advocate here.  Even though it looks like from the previews that Ron/Kelly are at their lowest point yet in their relationship, even deciding to break up, "the it takes two" might be them deciding to dig down deep within themselves and give it all they have and win. 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 05, 2005, 02:52:37 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome


I also watched that video that CBS took forever to put up, wow, very inspirational, exciting and made me very teary-eyed, LOL

My thoughts is the voice-over  "The Amaxing Race cannot be run alone"  It takes 2 to win" and the song Lost without you.

Could mean to symbolize the conflict with Ron and Kelly, and how their problems takes them out the race, and lose to whomever.

Or that they are able to overcome their problems with each other, and join together for the common goal to win this race.

You know TPTB love, fooling with our minds, and how those previews are never quite what they would have us to believe.

Either way, Tuesday promises to be a great night.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on May 05, 2005, 02:53:34 PM
true Otto.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 05, 2005, 03:21:33 PM
Thanks supssandalee, I got to think about this a little more!

Here is a couple of Raceygirls statements that might help. Now get to work (%# {l{

"I have been reading lots about TAR teams heading to Miami after San Juan - I can tell you they took AA flights out of San Juan for sure - and that I was also on an AA flight out of San Juan to Miami 12/18/04 AMERICAN AIRLINES flight 1350 SJU MIA 1,045 miles (from my statement) - they weren't there. I'm sure there were other AA flights between SJ and MI that day though."

"I also wanted to note that the team that arrived before U/J arrived about 10 minutes, give or take a couple minutes, before U/J - not a big difference (I was still waiting to check my bags, which is why I missed where U/J went in the airport). U/J didn't check anything - what they had in the pic is all they had when they jumped out of the SUV - and I don't think they or the other team went back to the SUVs because as soon as they parked them at the curb they jumped out and went into the airport - then some Amazing Race staff got in the SUVs and went and parked them somewhere. Nice, valet on the Amazing Race."

"Hello! I saw two teams...one I now know is U/J. The other I definately believe now to have been R/K. There was a team that arrived while I was in line that I missed in the excitement - they were the team ahead of U/J. So, I could have missed a team altogether, or that team could have been R/K who I saw inside the airport later. Also a Survivor fan, I would have noticed R/A FOR SURE "
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 03:23:33 PM
From AirWise (http://travel.airwise.com/schedules/)


Flight      Dep                 Arr          Aircraft
AA1114      7:15 am   9:52 am   Airbus 300-600
AA1612      8:40 am   11:24 am   Airbus 300-600
AA1550      10:35 am   1:16 pm   757
AA1350      12:55 pm   3:35 pm   Airbus 300-600
AA1236      2:41 pm   5:28 pm   757

Using the aircraft type information pointed out by Gman and the point that Racygirl was on #1350 sans racers I believe that R&A had to be on either #1114 or 1612 (because the promo shows them in an Airbus as opposed to 757).

That coupled with the estimate that she saw U&J and Ron (and Kelly too, I don’t know) at about 11:00 am (she was checking in her baggage for her 12:55 pm flight) leads me to conclude that R&K and (maybe) U&J got on #1236.

Looking at the arrival times that means R&A arrive in the destination city at least 6 hours ahead of any other team.

That leads me to believe that the betting spoiler is phony.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 05, 2005, 04:00:39 PM
Looking at the arrival times that means R&A arrive in the destination city at least 6 hours ahead of any other team.

That leads me to believe that the betting spoiler is phony.


OR ..... R/A are the team that is 5 hours behind in Jamaica. They all shipped their big backpacks home and U/J don't get mugged afterall.
  ]#*

I've asked Raceygirl what time her photos were taken and hopefully we'll see a reply.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 05, 2005, 04:18:53 PM
Romber arriving 6 hours ahead of everybody would go with what a poster said at TwOP...

I don't think rob and amber will be the team that are five hours behind in jamaica... From what we know, the road block involves jumping off a bridge.. and one of the Detour options involves going on somekind of raft..

Unless the other detour is golfing, then the spoiler is probably wrong.. Maybe the person saw two teams go (uchenna and joyce, ron and kelly, which is why he said not romber, and later on mistaked somebody else for a team?)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 05, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
Hi guys...

I've been looking at the airplane stuff too, and not to throw a wrench in the thought process, but the flight that shows R&A COULD be them leaving London. There are a lot of flights leaving London on the 14th that are British Airways 744's which also have the 4 rows in the middle. All I'm saying is that it could be another misdirection of where they actually are.

Also, I can't see R&A being able to get one of those early flights in San Juan, because the flight TO San Juan doesn't get there till like 6:24 pm as far as I can see,  so they'd have to start the tasks in San Juan in the morning.

Also, racey girl hints to NOT seeing another team come in, which could have been R&A, which gives them only a few minutes lead.

I'm just hesitant to see how R&A could get such a lead, when we see them all together in Jamaica,  and there are not a plethora of flights (only two I can see) that go from Jamaica to PR, for them to get a substantial lead at that point in the game....
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on May 05, 2005, 04:23:08 PM
one thign we need to keep in mind...When R/k were noneliminated they said 2nd of 3 predetermined non eliminations.  That means we have a pit stop in all this still to factor in.  SO that means 2 detours and 2 roadblocks that could cause bunch ups or give a team an advantage.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 04:31:45 PM
Also, there could by Cessna-style travel from Jamaica to Puerto Rico, or a boat?  Since they arrive at the San Jaun airport in SUVs that means they have been doing a sequnece of race activities.  I would guess that the final leg begins on the 16th or 17th.

We should see about British Airways flight, you can see a stewardess in the shot.  Which airline has that uniform?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: ryndmc on May 05, 2005, 04:34:12 PM
I am new here and I am completely confused!!   |( 

One thing I am having trouble understanding is the raceygirl spotting.  She says she saw U/J & R/K BUT she missed one team coming in because she was in line?  So that means all 3 teams are accounted for right?  How did R&A end up 5 hours ahead?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 05, 2005, 04:34:55 PM
Here's another thing to look at, in that raceygirl thread:

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On a flight from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Miami Florida on December 18, 2004. Onboard in coach: a couple dressed in nearly identical light blue outfits with backpacks, videographer (broadcast quality Beta cam), soundman with baffled fishpole mike and separate audio tape machine. In the forward cabin, about a half-dozen production staff types. Upon arrival the couple dashed down the aisle, through the jetway and toward the terminal building, shooting all the time. (The cameraman collided with an oncoming catering cart as they rounded a blind corner)

Light blue tells me Ron & Kelly. This tells me that U&J DO miss this flight. Raceygirl says that U&J and R&K come in at about the same time, so theoretically,  they should be on the same flight. Perhaps U&J do lose a clue and have to go back for it, thereby missing the flight with R&K... The fact that she is crying and seems so upset about it, tells me that they do not have R&A behind them to fall back on.

BUT, where are R&A? The other thing to notice in the post above is the:  about a half-dozen production staff types in first class. If this is production moving along, wouldn't they be on the earliest team's flight out? So they can stay ahead of the race? So that leads me to believe that R&K are ahead of R&A.

Too many options! LOL
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2005, 04:41:18 PM
just passing through , welcome  ryndmc  :<(

(http://img64.echo.cx/img64/1171/518go.jpg)

Commercial airlines which do not have established operations in Jamaica, may contract the services of Jamaica Dispatch Limited and AJAS Limited, which are the authorized handling agents at the Norman Manley International Airport. These companies offer a full range of services, including passenger processing, cargo handling and ramp handling.

AJAS Limited, (http://www.manley-airport.com.jm/aircrafthand.htm)

Norman Manley International Airport (http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/jamaica/)
Kingston - Norman Manley International Airport (http://airlines.priceline.com/airlines/kingston---norman-manley-international-airport.html)

(http://p.vtourist.com/1/1806248-Norman_Manley_Airport-Kingston.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 04:45:33 PM
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RaceyGirl 18 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
03-31-05, 03:15 PM (EST)
    24. "RE: I think it's Ron"
Awesome job again IceCat!! I also wanted to note that the team that arrived before U/J arrived about 10 minutes, give or take a couple minutes, before U/J - not a big difference (I was still waiting to check my bags, which is why I missed where U/J went in the airport). U/J didn't check anything - what they had in the pic is all they had when they jumped out of the SUV - and I don't think they or the other team went back to the SUVs because as soon as they parked them at the curb they jumped out and went into the airport - then some Amazing Race staff got in the SUVs and went and parked them somewhere. Nice, valet on the Amazing Race

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RaceyGirl 18 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
04-04-05, 09:56 PM (EST)
    38. "RE: To RaceyGirl"
LAST EDITED ON 04-04-05 AT 10:00 PM (EST)
Hello! I saw two teams...one I now know is U/J. The other I definately believe now to have been R/K. There was a team that arrived while I was in line that I missed in the excitement - they were the team ahead of U/J. So, I could have missed a team altogether, or that team could have been R/K who I saw inside the airport later. Also a Survivor fan, I would have noticed R/A FOR SURE  And, I did not see any older teams. Fun, Fun!

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RaceyGirl 18 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
04-06-05, 10:46 AM (EST)
    42. "Response about Rob and Info about Miami Destination"
It's not Rob - I would have known Rob from Survivor and I would have been all over that ;)
Also, I have been reading lots about TAR teams heading to Miami after San Juan - I can tell you they took AA flights out of San Juan for sure - and that I was also on an AA flight out of San Juan to Miami 12/18/04 AMERICAN AIRLINES flight 1350 SJU MIA 1,045 miles (from my statement) - they weren't there. I'm sure there were other AA flights between SJ and MI that day though.
Anyway, I really think there's no chance that was Rob and I and my friend missed it 

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Here is some potential TAR 7 info. I got this email from a friend of mine today. He gave me this info based on an email that he received from friend.
On a flight from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Miami Florida on December 18, 2004. Onboard in coach: a couple dressed in nearly identical light blue outfits with backpacks, videographer (broadcast quality Beta cam), soundman with baffled fishpole mike and separate audio tape machine. In the forward cabin, about a half-dozen production staff types. Upon arrival the couple dashed down the aisle, through the jetway and toward the terminal building, shooting all the time. (The cameraman collided with an oncoming catering cart as they rounded a blind corner)

This was the only couple being filmed on this flight, but that makes some sense since, per the published shooting schedule, they would have possibly been down to the final three at that point.

The last one is not Raceygirl, but from (?) about an on board sighting of a team that must be R&K.

It looks to me that she knew a team arrive 10 min ahead of U&J.  Then, later she saw Ron and took the Ron photo.  She assumed that Ron was part of the team that came in 10 min ahead of U&J.  She did not ever see R&A. 

So, my guess is that R&A came through much earlier in the day.

ETA:   Sorry for the duplication!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2005, 04:51:54 PM
Pix No. 67 that U/J are at the Norman Manley International Airport, Kingston, Jamaica (KIN).  This also is true of scenes 39 and 41. Note the sign behind Uchenna as he holds the weeping Joyce: AJAS LIMITED. This is an airline service company only located at KIN. So They are at the airport leaving Jamaica supposedly on the way to Puerto Rico, SJU. And there are no direct flights between the two airports that I know of. So if they miss some flight they are in deep doo doo.  This must be the morning after the pitstop in Jamaica since they have been mugged and are carrying a black plastic bag and no backpacks.

And if the ROADBLOCK is as reported to be in Jamaica to be something to do with hitting golf balls, then Amber and not Rob would have to be doing it. Does she play golf?  I know he does. So that would make the dive off the bridge or whatever the ROADBLOCK in Puerto Rico and Amber would also have to do this one since Rob has used up his six.. Any ideas.

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: floridagirl on May 05, 2005, 04:52:59 PM
Just a question about the Rob and Amber Flight.  If this flight is leaving LONDON  wouldn't they be dressed with heavier clothing?  I would expect to maybe see a jacket etc... on at least someone.....

just a thought
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 05, 2005, 04:59:14 PM
I think they're going to america in that picture because in the picture where we know for sure that amber and rob are in the puerto rican airport, they are wearing the EXACT same clothes.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2005, 05:02:48 PM
Just a question about the Rob and Amber Flight.  If this flight is leaving LONDON  wouldn't they be dressed with heavier clothing?  I would expect to maybe see a jacker etc... on at least someone.....

just a thought

That's exactly why we believe it is probably the American Airlines flight from Puerto Rico to Miami.  It has to be an Airbus 300-600 widebodied jet and since Raceygirl was on American Flight 1350 (also a widebodied jet) leaving at 12:55 and she did not see Rob or Amber or the production crew on board then Rob and amber most likely were on flight 1114 or 1612 which left 3 or 2 hours before her flight.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 05, 2005, 05:06:08 PM

BUT, where are R&A? The other thing to notice in the post above is the:  about a half-dozen production staff types in first class. If this is production moving along, wouldn't they be on the earliest team's flight out? So they can stay ahead of the race? So that leads me to believe that R&K are ahead of R&A.

/quote]

Does anyone know if "prouction staff types" travel with all the teams not just the front runners?  Especially, at the end. 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 05:32:03 PM
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I think they're going to america in that picture because in the picture where we know for sure that amber and rob are in the puerto rican airport, they are wearing the EXACT same clothes.

Yes, but #22 shows them heading to the gate with their backpacks.

I don't think the Ron-background shot has the backpacks.  Checking...

ETA:  Nevermind, now I realize that you are talking about #22!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 05, 2005, 05:39:46 PM
OK, so I'm trying to create a time line... feel free to correct me on anything or point out some other possibilities.

Leave London, on the 14th

Flight Schedule Dec 14th Heathrow London to Kingston Jamaica:
9:45am 5:05pm KIN  BA 0207 / DL 8864*  744/320  MIA 2:35 hrs.

9:45am 5:05pm KIN  BA 0207 / JM 0024   744/320  MIA 2:35 hrs. 
 
9:45am 5:09pm KIN  BA 0207 / AA 1733   744/738  MIA 2:40 hrs.
 
9:45am 5:09pm KIN  BA 0207 / 5195*   744/738 MIA 2:40 hrs. 
 
10:20am 5:05pm KIN  AA 0057 / DL 8864*  777/320   MIA 1:45 hrs.
 
10:20am 5:05pm KIN  AA 0057 / JM 0024  777/320 MIA 1:45 hrs.
 
10:20am 5:09pm KIN  AA 0057 / 1733  777/738 MIA 1:50 hrs.

So, the earliest any team can arrive in Jamaica is 5 ish, leaving only 30 minutes of daylight from touchdown,  so tasks done on the 15th... We know they're all together at least at some point of this, doing daylight tasks in Jamaica.

Complete Task sometime on the 15th, maybe even before noon, so they can leave Jamaica that same day. They'd have to do this, because from the flight searches, I see no 16th or 17th flights out of Jamaica to San Juan, unless they were to have the teams do something other than fly. BUT now that we see U&J at the Jamaica airport, they must have to fly... so the 15th it is...unless there is some little know charter airline running that flight, or some other connection not shown on searches.

Flight Schedule Dec 15th Kingston Jamaica to San Juan Puerto Rico:
12:35pm KIN 6:24pm SJU  BW 0415 / AA 5171*   738/AT7   SXM 1:35 hrs.  (anyone know what airline BW is?)

12:35pm KIN  6:58pm SJU  BW 0415 / AA 5165*  738/AT7  SXM 2:10 hrs.

So, they get to Puerto Rico at 6:24 pm on the 15th, again no daylight for tasks, tasks done on the am of the 16th-complete afternoon of the 16th.

IF, there's going to be a mugging, there must be one after the PR tasks. It couldn't be in Jamaica, because there are no flights on the 16th or 17th heading to PR. The only way for the teams to be leaving Puerto Rico on the 18th, is if they hold off the pit stop till Puerto Rico. (unless of course as noted above, there are flights that are not showing up in searches)

Since this is the last leg of the race, teams have a 36 hour pit stop, and leave PR early AM on the 18th for Miami.

OK, so I'm trying to see how R&A could get such a big lead. Let's say they rock their tasks in PR. Awesomely rock em, and are done by 10 am. Then the rest of the teams aren't done until, let's say even 6pm. R&A don't set out till 10pm, too late for an immediate flight out, and the other teams  get to leave at 6:00 am, with some time to catch the earliest flight out.

OR, another scenario, since we see Joyce breaking down in the Jamaica airport, is that they miss those two flights to San Juan. They figure their are majorly screwed since there are no flights on the 16th and 17th... but they find an alternate way to get there... they must, because they are seen in PR on the 18th.

The biggest chance for a R&A lead, is that R&A ARE the only ones who make that 12:35 flight to San Juan. R&A and R&K have to find alternate transport, and are over a day behind. They'd have to be, because a 6:24 pm arriving flight for R&A, leaves a lot of room for teams to catch up, when they have to wait till the next day to start tasks. Unless they have nighttime tasks in PR of course.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 05, 2005, 06:02:07 PM
What if the golf is a detour, not a roadblock? It could be some variation of best ball, with each person hitting and then getting to use the best shot. That would be an great detour (or roadblock) so late in the game because it requires both power (tee shot) and patience (putting).

In terms of London, do we know when Rob and Amber arrived, and would 12 hours after that be a possibility for a flight, or will they be bunched? I've only ever flown out of London mid-day to arrive in the states, but maybe they catch a much earlier flight than R/K and U/J? It looks like they got in to the pitstop a lot earlier than the other two. (sorry, didn't see post right above!)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 05, 2005, 06:22:31 PM
I think the golfing spoiler was fake
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 05, 2005, 06:26:36 PM
You have to remember that Jamaica is home to 5 World Class golf courses.  It would be great opportunity to showcase a golf task, and we all remember how Rob did on that boat, hitting that golf ball,sssplattttttt! [^/
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 05, 2005, 06:38:38 PM
Jettrue,  it's going to be hard to determine if they leave London on Tuesday the 14th or Wednesday the 15th.  London could be a 36 hour pit stop.  I lean toward Wednesday because of the promos that the three teams did at the end of the last episode.  They were cleaned up and wearing different clothes.

Anyway, it appears from the vidcaps and other spoiler boards that the bridge (or structure) jump is a roadblock in Jamaica.  It appears that Ron, Uchenna, and Amber will be the jumpers.

In the CBS preview, we see Rob and Amber poling a raft down a river.  That raft matched up with one in Jamaica.  Take it with the golfing spoiler, and you could have a detour of pole or pitch & putt at a golf course.  So, it appears that they spent a full day and maybe another night in Jamaica.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 07:01:19 PM
I get a strong pitstop vibe from the shot of the Trident Hotel in Jamaica.

I will have to find a way out of Jamaica on the 16th or 17th!

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 05, 2005, 07:01:43 PM
Raceygirl over at blows gave the times of the photos she took:

Why of course!
I took the picture I posted of U/J at 9:05am EST. I took the picture of Ron (and the other mystery figure in red that some now think is Rob) at 9:40am EST. Puerto Rico isn't EST - they are an hour ahead or after - I don't remember - but I didn't change the settings on my camera from EST, so there you go!

To those who discuss U/J not having packs because they are going back to get them or already checked them - they pulled up, got out just as they are pictured, and went into the airport. Some other Amazing Race staff people got into the SUV and took it away, like they did the first. So, there's no going back to get anything out of the SUV, and there was no checking bags between pulling up and my picture. Alas, I got the pic as I waited in the never-ending line to check my bags to head to Miami!

Also, as a side note to those who think the guy in red is Rob - if it is - that means that I snatched pics of R/A, R/K, and U/J within 30 minutes of each other. So, they are close!!! Also, it means I am bummed I might have missed Rob and Amber, which while I still think unlikely - I guess is possible being that he had no cameraman, no Amber, and no pack with him. But I agree that those clothes are awfully coincidental!

Big Smiles, ~MY~
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 08:06:14 PM
About traveling on December 16th

AirWise (http://travel.airwise.com/schedules/) seems to have mental block about going from Jamaica to Porto Rico on December the 16th.   But if you try KIN to FLL (Fort Lauderdale) you get six flights from departing from 6:25 am to 6:05 pm.  Then if you try FLL to SJU (San Juan, Porto Rico) you get 12 flights departing from 8:30 am to 7:30 pm.  The earliest combination would be Delta 8853 departing KIN at 6:25 am, arriving FLL at 9:05 am with American 1093 departing FLL at 10:34 am , arriving SJU at 1:00 pm.

So, that works.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 05, 2005, 08:28:59 PM
Thanks Ottopart,supsandalee, and Raceygirl.

From Time Zone Converter (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc)

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10:05:00 Sat Dec 18 2004 in America/Puerto_Rico converts to
09:05:00 Sat Dec 18 2004 in US/Eastern 
DST* is not in effect on this date/time in America/Puerto_Rico
DST* is not in effect on this date/time in US/Eastern

So the photo of U&J was taken at 10:05 am local San Juan time.  Flight 1550 would be leaving in 30 min.  I don’t think they made that flight.  The photo of Ron was taken at 10:40 am local time.  They did not make flight 1550. 

Since Raceygirl believes there were no teams on her flight 1350 that leaves the later only flight 1236 leaving at 2:41 pm on a 757 aircraft.


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I've asked Raceygirl what time her photos were taken and hopefully we'll see a reply.

supsandalee, Could you ask Raceygirl if it was raining at all when she was at the airport?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 05, 2005, 10:26:50 PM
I dont know if anyone posted this yet ( so much to catch up on )
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RaceyGirl 20 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
 05-05-05, 10:55 PM (EST)
     
79. "RE: Time of Photos?"
(Spidey and supsandalee both asked this evening.)
The first SUV I saw got there about 10 minutes before U/J got there in their SUV (9:05am EST). So, I don't know if that means U/J are currently in second or third. The SUV that I missed could have been there after the two I saw, or before. However, as I was in line forever, I would say unless they pulled up to a different entrance, that third SUV got there at least 20 minutes before the first I saw, or at least 20 minutes after U/J. Geez, might need to read that one again.
 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 05, 2005, 10:37:42 PM
We know that Rob and Amber are on a wide-bodied airbus 300-600 jet, so they must have made the earlier flight no 1114 or 1612 which would give them almost a five or six hour lead if they are headed for Miami.

We now know that Uchenna and Joyce are leaving from Kingston (KIN); but most international flights arrive in Montego Bay (MBJ) so they all might have landed first in Montego Bay and worked themselves around the island to the resort pit stop.

We also know that Uchenna and Joyce get mugged in Jamaica since Uchenna is shown at Norman Manley International Airport (KIN) with the same plastic bag he is carrying in San Juan Airport.

Someone can work up flight schedules for MBJ; we might find Air Jamaica has direct, non-stop flights from London.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Traegen on May 05, 2005, 11:14:31 PM
Would they have to take a puddle-jumper back to Montego Bay from Kingston? Could that be the flight that Joyce is upset about?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 06, 2005, 07:40:48 AM
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AirWise seems to have mental block

Chateau, There must be a problem with their software.

Assume that the racers leave on Dec. 17

They could fly from Kingston to Miami and arrive at 7:39, 2:10, 2:18, 2:55, 3:25, 5:56, and 6:40

They could fly from Miami to San Juan and depart at 11:02, 1:10, 2:20, 4:21, and 7:55

As you can see, there are plenty of opportunities on the 17th.


ETA.  That vid cap of Rob and Amber on the wide body plane could be them flying from Miami to San Juan.

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2005, 08:56:44 AM
But it pairs up with the one of them running to the gate (it says 'Boarding Passes Only') in San Juan.  The match is suggested by them wearing the same clothes.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 06, 2005, 09:03:33 AM
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But it pairs up with the one of them running to the gate (it says 'Boarding Passes Only') in San Juan.  The match is suggested by them wearing the same clothes.

Uchenna is wearing the same orange top in both the Kingston and San Juan airports.  It could be that Jamaica is the last pit stop and everyone wears the same clothes for the rest of the race.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2005, 09:39:26 AM
Okay, I see your point.

It seems we can't be absolutely sure that the wide-body shot of R&A is the final flight to Miami.

And, in a way, that's a good thing.   [^/
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 06, 2005, 10:19:42 AM
I was wondering about the final shot of Rob and Amber in the car from the end of the preview-- #71 on this page (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,5608.16.html), so I looked through Tarflies and found that the last time they both wore those outfits at the same time was in episode 2. That means the shot at the end has nothing to do with the swimming/jumping task, just like the Uchenna/Joyce clip is from India and Ron/Kelly is from Istanbul.

Episode 2, on route to Peru (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery/tar07_02/tar07_02_070): their clothes match clip #71 exactly.

Rob hasn't worn the dark blue Sox cap since episode 4, when he swapped caps (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery/tar07_04/tar07_04_143) with Carlos the boat pilot. Rob's only worn a red Sox cap or the knitted wool cap since then. (Or Carlos's tan cap!).

Amber hasn't worn the red warm-up jacket with yellow stripes (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery/tar07_04/tar07_04_115) since episode 4.

In fact, Gretchen was wearing it in India on the elephant ride (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery/tar07_08/tar07_08_099).

I hope these links work.



Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 06, 2005, 10:20:00 AM
supsandalee, Could you ask Raceygirl if it was raining at all when she was at the airport?  Just curious.



Done. Just waiting for the reply.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2005, 10:48:15 AM
We seem to be chewing up a lot of screen time trying to figure out how the teams fly from London to Florida to Jamaica to Florida to Puerto Rico to Florida to wherever.  But the mystery to me is why this rounting?

Why do the teams go to Puerto Rico after Jamaica when it almost certainly means they go to Florida in between and then back again for the final leg.  What do they do in Puerto Rico that warrents this backward jaunt? We seem to identify all activity as happening inb Jamaica. But is perhaps the jump off the bridge or whatever thing actually taking place in Puerto Rico?  This gives more meaning to Rob's comment about carrying Amber when it means a million bucks.  Almost sounds like this is the final leg and they are on their way to pickup their backpacks and get on that flight to Miami, the last leg in the "race around the world"

Are we dead sure that the scene of Rob and Amber running through the airport with those heavy backpacks is actually San Juan Airport in Puerto Rico?  The signs about "Boarding Passes Only" is in English. I know that it is pointed out that the ceiling and lights look the same, but it just doesn't seem to match the shot of San Jaun Airport that RaceyGirl has posted.  For one thing, San Juan Airport is a facility almost dedicated to American Airlines. They dominate almost all of the gates.  But in Miami they only have gates in Concorse B, and the shot of Rob and Amber looks like they are in a main corridor and are headed for the American Airlines gates in Concorse B. Security check in Miami are at the entrance to the concorses from the main corridor.  This is what it looks like to me. In San Juan, it would only show gate numbers since almost all the gates are American Airline gates.

Then again it might be the Fort Lauderdale airport and they are running to make the connection to Puerto Rico after arriving on a Delta or someother airline. Will have to check those flights from FLL.

Which reminds me, why in the world are Rob and Amber still carrying those large, full backpacks this late in the race?  Dump the old stuff and buy new stuff with your million bucks.

A lot of questions and not many answers.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 06, 2005, 10:49:23 AM
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Amber hasn't worn the red warm-up jacket with yellow stripes since episode 4.

In fact, Gretchen was wearing it in India on the elephant ride.

[sarcasm]OMG, Amberexia did something NICE, by letting Gretchen wear her jacket??... but wait, she's an evil person, she wouldn't do such a thing!!! Data won't compute, must explode...[/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 06, 2005, 10:59:48 AM
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Are we dead sure that the scene of Rob and Amber running through the airport with those heavy backpacks is actually San Juan Airport in Puerto Rico?  The signs about "Boarding Passes Only" is in English. I know that it is pointed out that the ceiling and lights look the same, but it just doesn't seem to match the shot of San Jaun Airport that RaceyGirl has posted.

I don't know about "dead" sure,  but that has got to be San Juan airport. I think raceygirl's shots are after they have checked in, so it would be a different part of the airport. I guess one thing to do would be to ask raceygirl if those shots look like San Juan airport to her.  That ceiling is just too distinctive. I can't see why they wouldn't have some english signs in a Puerto Rican airport.

Since Racygirl DID see them come in the airport front, they must have had to do SOMETHING in PR, else they would already be checked in and just biding their time in a layover inside the gates. Perhaps Puerto Rico is just a "go to this place (some great PR landmark) and find your next clue". Their next clue say "fly to miami".
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: floridagirl on May 06, 2005, 11:00:15 AM
FORT LAUDERDAL FLIGHTS TO PORTA RICO

AIRLINE/FLIGHT DEPARTING TO TIME TERMINAL GATE REMARKS
  AMERICAN
#1093
 SAN JUAN  10:34A  3  F8   On Time 
  AMERICAN
#1963
 SAN JUAN  1:40P  3  F3   On Time 
  AMERICAN
#605
 SAN JUAN  6:47P  3  F7   On Time 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2005, 11:10:54 AM
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Amber hasn't worn the red warm-up jacket with yellow stripes since episode 4.

In fact, Gretchen was wearing it in India on the elephant ride.

[sarcasm]OMG, Amberexia did something NICE, by letting Gretchen wear her jacket??... but wait, she's an evil person, she wouldn't do such a thing!!! Data won't compute, must explode...[/sarcasm]
Actually I read ( somewhere  ?? ) that Gretchen dump dived and found Ambers jacket in the trash , Amber didnt give Gretchen the jacket   }}{ .
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 06, 2005, 11:14:35 AM
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Actually I read ( somewhere  ?? ) that Gretchen dump dived and found Ambers jacket in the trash , Amber didnt give Gretchen the jacket    .

Oh, that's hilarious! Why would Amber throw it away I wonder quietly to myself....

OK, I take back my sarcasm, LOL...
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2005, 11:28:43 AM
I always thought that the Yellow Fleece Jacket that Gretchen was wearing in Istanbul was given to her by Joyce who seem to have a huge backpack stuffed with clothes.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 06, 2005, 11:36:28 AM
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Are we dead sure that the scene of Rob and Amber running through the airport with those heavy backpacks is actually San Juan Airport in Puerto Rico?  The signs about "Boarding Passes Only" is in English.

G'man, I also had the same concerns but now believe the airport to be San Juan because of the gate sign.  In vidcap #36, You see the gate sign showing the way to gates 5 or 6 through 1? (I can't make out the second digit).  There are two words to the left of the numbers.  The word on top has more letters than the one below.

If you look at RaceyGirl's photo of Ron (a couple posts below vidcap #36), you see a closeup of a San Juan gate sign.  I think it's safe to deduce that the two words that can't be made out in vidcap #36 are Salidas and Gates.  If it was an U.S. airport, I think Gates would be on top.

Also, Ron's photo has includes a sign showing the way to the Security Check.  It's all in English. 


As for travel between Jamaica and Puerto Rico, there's always the option of a charter flight.  It would save wasting a day traveling between Jamaica, the U.S, and Puerto Rico.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 06, 2005, 11:57:48 AM
My guess as to why Jamaica-PR-USA is that they clear customs for the US in Puerto Rico. I don't think you can do that in Jamaica, although I could be wrong.

I would guess they have a short task in PR, then go to the airport, clear customs, then fly to the US. I don't see how they could go to Ft. Lauderdale from Jamaica, unless you can go through US customs in Jamaica. Does anyone know if that's possible?


Edited: I looked through the US customs site and the state department site, which state that PR is not an independent nation but a dependent of the US, and that any person coming into a US port of entry must go through US customs. Based on PR being part of the US (much like Guam, US Virgin Islands, American Samoa), a PR airport is considered a US port of entry, so they could clear US customs there. Jamaica is not, so they wouldn't be able to.

It's still possible they go London-Ft.Lauderdale-PR-Jamaica-PR-Miami, although that seems crazy. It's not possible to go London-Jamaica-Miami.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 06, 2005, 01:17:58 PM
Based on PR being part of the US (much like Guam, US Virgin Islands, American Samoa), a PR airport is considered a US port of entry, so they could clear US customs there. Jamaica is not, so they wouldn't be able to.

True. So is a a cruise port. I recently cruised from PR and we cleared customs at the cruise port. We didn't go through customs at the airport or when we landed in Houston. Probably the main reason for going to PR is to keep them from being delayed by customs on the final city.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2005, 02:04:41 PM
oops I posted this is the other thread  *8/
I beleive Joyce did give Gretchen the yellow fleece ( where is that article  *(^ )
sorry to repeat but without going through the whole thread , does this help at all ?

TWop spoiler
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Here is some potential TAR 7 info. I got this email from a friend of mine today. He gave me this info based on an email that he received from friend.

On a flight from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Miami Florida on December 18, 2004. Onboard in coach: a couple dressed in nearly identical light blue outfits with backpacks, videographer (broadcast quality Beta cam), soundman with baffled fishpole mike and separate audio tape machine. In the forward cabin, about a half-dozen production staff types. Upon arrival the couple dashed down the aisle, through the jetway and toward the terminal building, shooting all the time. (The cameraman collided with an oncoming catering cart as they rounded a blind corner)

This was the only couple being filmed on this flight, but that makes some sense since, per the published shooting schedule, they would have possibly been down to the final three at that point. 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 06, 2005, 02:29:39 PM
I was investigating in advance about a month ago about the customs issue.

Per the Jamaican Embassy

Persons traveling with US Passports tend to encounter fewer difficulties upon departure....visitors must have a return ticket and be able to show sufficient funds for their visit in Jamaica.....   taken from the U S Department of State Re: Jamaica

Could be why London was NOT a elimination leg, since racer would have to have funds?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on May 06, 2005, 03:33:06 PM


TWop spoiler
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Here is some potential TAR 7 info. I got this email from a friend of mine today. He gave me this info based on an email that he received from friend.

On a flight from San Juan, Puerto Rico to Miami Florida on December 18, 2004. Onboard in coach: a couple dressed in nearly identical light blue outfits with backpacks, videographer (broadcast quality Beta cam), soundman with baffled fishpole mike and separate audio tape machine. In the forward cabin, about a half-dozen production staff types. Upon arrival the couple dashed down the aisle, through the jetway and toward the terminal building, shooting all the time. (The cameraman collided with an oncoming catering cart as they rounded a blind corner)

This was the only couple being filmed on this flight, but that makes some sense since, per the published shooting schedule, they would have possibly been down to the final three at that point. 

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Okay this is interesting....as R/K would not have a back packs at this point ~ doubt they would buy them this late in the game.  I think this maybe a decoy team. And none of the other teams left will have similar outfits
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2005, 03:58:31 PM
just ignore me, I'm bored  (*(


(http://img174.echo.cx/img174/7222/save0dx.jpg)
San Juan Airport (http://www.b-v-i.com/Transportation/SanJuanAirport/default.htm)
(http://img104.echo.cx/img104/5984/tar7finale284fi.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale284fi.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/img104/9489/tar7finale276vg.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale276vg.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/img104/71/tar7finale263hy.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale263hy.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2005, 04:37:10 PM
This is strange because the middle shot clearly says "Fire" and "Fire Hose" in English with NO spanish titles.  Do not think that could be in San Juan.  And we have similar shot of Uchenna and Joyce with in english sign "check in" above their heads and AJAS LIMITED on wall behind them.  Perhaps, the spanish translation of "Tourist Information Center" which by the way has the primary positition above the spanish is to help spanish speaking tourists coming through Kingston. Such is the case in Miami where so many spanish-speaking people come and go.  So just because sign has a spanish translation below it does not per se this is San Juan Airport.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 06, 2005, 04:41:41 PM
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This is strange because the middle shot clearly says "Fire" and "Fire Hose" in English with NO spanish titles.  Do not think that could be in San Juan.  And we have similar shot of Uchenna and Joyce with in english sign "check in" above their heads and AJAS LIMITED on wall behind them.  Perhaps, the spanish translation of "Tourist Information Center" which by the way has the primary positition above the spanish is to help spanish speaking tourists coming through Kingston. Such is the case in Miami where so many spanish-speaking people come and go.  So just because sign has a spanish translation below it does not per se this is San Juan Airport.

I thought people had already established upthread that that was Kingston Airport, due to the AJAS LIMITED sign... and someone posted the link for AJAS limited in Jamaica....
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 06, 2005, 05:20:01 PM
EXACTLY!!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2005, 06:00:56 PM
Nice find Puddin, where did you find that pic of the San Juan Airport (with Tourist info center sign) ?

I can't find it in the link. 

This could mean that U&J have their flight begging problem at San Juan. 

If so then they would not be on the direct 10:35 am AA1550 flight.  Because they arrived at 10:05 am, no way to make a 10:35 flight if there are hangups.  And Raceygirl did not see any teams on her 12:55 pm flight.

The next best flight is the 2:41 pm departing AA 1236 that I think R&K got on.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 06, 2005, 07:06:07 PM
Vidcap #11 is really perplexing me.  The only time we usually see racers together like this is at the beginning of a leg.  They're usually waiting for something to open. 

Rob and Amber are wearing the same clothes as they are wearing in the raft poling and piggybacking vidcaps.  I believe those occur in Jamaica.

Uchenna, Joyce, and Ron are wearing the same clothes as they are wearing in RaceyGirl's San Juan Airport photos.
 
If there is a pitstop in Jamaica and Uchenna and Joyce are non-eliminated, and this vidcap is after the NEL,then why didn't Rob and Amber change clothes?

If this vidcap occurs the morning after the teams arrive in Jamaica (before the NEL) , and the leg is a NEL leg, then why didn't Ron change clothes?  (He and Kelly weren't wearing shorts in London)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2005, 07:24:04 PM
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If this vidcap occurs the morning after the teams arrive in Jamaica (before the NEL) , and the leg is a NEL leg, then why didn't Ron change clothes?  (He and Kelly weren't wearing shorts in London)

It looks like R&K's pants are detachable and they are wearing the same pants in #17 and #11, just without the legs in #11.

I think #11 has them running to the cluebox after a place has opened (that's what caused the bunch) and then, #14 is where R&A go next.  I see a clue in Rob's left hand.  They are wearing the same clothes as in #11.

I would guess that Amber takes off the sweat pants and top to do the water jump.  We see Rob carrying her extra clothes during the piggyback clip.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2005, 08:21:20 PM
Nice find Puddin, where did you find that pic of the San Juan Airport (with Tourist info center sign) ?

I can't find it in the link.

This could mean that U&J have their flight begging problem at San Juan.

If so then they would not be on the direct 10:35 am AA1550 flight. Because they arrived at 10:05 am, no way to make a 10:35 flight if there are hangups. And Raceygirl did not see any teams on her 12:55 pm flight.

The next best flight is the 2:41 pm departing AA 1236 that I think R&K got on.

here you go Chateau
http://www.worldtrip.de/Karibik/Puerto-Rico/puerto-rico-san-juan.html

 I'm still looking for that darn bridge/ structure that they are leaping from and wont give up  ]*] untill I go totally insane .( its so famaliar to me )
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 06, 2005, 09:47:19 PM
Thanks, how did you find it in German?

Here is a lead (I have to go, can't follow it) on the bridge:
http://www.golocaljamaica.com/readarticle.php?ArticleID=4412
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2005, 10:10:53 PM
I think that the bridge is not bridge.

The bauxite mine (probably the tall white building) has shafts that run down the mountains on conveyors to get the ore down to bay area in Ocho Rios. I am sure that shaft/conveyor is what they are jumping from. A bridge would have some sort of road surface and I do not see that. You can see where there is that platform thing, sticking out at the level they are jumping.

One heck of a roadblock.


Sorry no pics to back this up, looked for quite a while, but I did find reference to the conveyors on an ATV site, Ocho Rios.

 :)*   ^/^  Is anyone a James Bond fan ? I'm just grasping at straws here ...just spec nothing solid .

Slowly, he tilted his head upward toward the long, dark arm of the conveyor belt. He shifted his gaze to the abandoned bauxite mine at one end and then to the battered brick building at the other. Without thinking or even looking, he started down the gently sloping drive toward the Reynolds Pier, straining to take in all of the 'familiar' scene. Incredibly, the brick building now before him was the identical twin of the one from which he had escaped so long ago. In fact, the whole installation seemed as familiar as the little Chelsea Square he was pleased to call his home.

Willing himself back to the present, Bond approached the amenable guard and spoke to him briefly in standard English. No money changed hands and the Jamaican waved him through for a closer inspection of the pier. Gawping like a tourist in Piccadilly, Bond slowly made his way to the end of the pier. The two cranes were still there, towering above the pier, as were the socks that formed the end of the twin conveyor belts. How much bauxite had passed through those socks and into the waiting holds of the Reynolds Aluminium ships? 

http://www.secretintel.com/archives/1.02/travel/death09.html

“Live and Let Die” and a large bauxite mine and pier. I’m still trying to discover if this was the location used as the exterior of Dr No’s lair in that Bond film (which was filmed in the Ocho Rios area) but I haven’t been able to nail it down. It looked similar but I imagine all bauxite mines look about the same (except to other bauxite mines).
 

http://www.epinions.com/content_176321433220


Reynolds Pier (http://homepage.mac.com/revneal/panamacanal/PhotoAlbum36.html)
(http://img146.echo.cx/img146/5899/j51kn.th.jpg) (http://img146.echo.cx/my.php?image=j51kn.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: about that on May 06, 2005, 10:26:19 PM
Hi everybody,
I usually post at Sucks. I am originally from Puerto Rico (living in the US now). I just wanted to confirm that the U/J pics in an airport with big white or shiny silver columns are in the San Juan airport.
There is also a picture of R/A running towards an exit with their backpacks. This seems to me like the baggage claim area so it could be when they are arriving to the island.
I've never seem that bridge structure where they seem to be bungee jumping in PR.
That's all I have for now.
Good discussion!

PS: Yes, we do have Fire hoses without spanish subtitles at the San Juan aiport.  :)

Edited to add: Upon closer examination, I think that the R/A pics are actually at the ticket counter area. They are running towards the gates/security checkpoint. This is actually about 30 feet from where RaceyGirl took a pic of Ron.

U/J pics by the fire hose are definitely inside the terminal, probably by the gate anxiously waiting to get on a flight.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 06, 2005, 10:41:48 PM
 _^%  about that Thank You  for confirming the San Juan airport vidcaps  ]**]
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PS: Yes, we do have Fire hoses without spanish subtitles at the San Juan aiport.
   lol , ^/^
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: about that on May 06, 2005, 11:06:16 PM
Thanks for the welcome, puddin. I feel warm and fuzzy inside.   })}
I want to add that I've been carefully looking at all the vidcaps in this thread, and I am pretty sure that the only vidcaps from Puerto Rico are at the airport. I am a little disappointed because I was expecting to see a couple of pics from a detour or roadblock somewhere in PR. Oh, well! Maybe we'll get more previews over the weekend so I can be more helpful in this discussion.

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 06, 2005, 11:37:54 PM
I think the falls in Ocho Rios, was used in the filming of the Dr. No. movie, saw it mentioned in my search, maybe the Y S Falls, never watched the movie, so not sure about the bauxite mine, but since the movie crew would have been in the area doing the other filming, would make sense.  I will investigate further.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 07, 2005, 12:14:01 AM
Correction to the Dr. No, the Falls are Dunn River Falls where movie was filmed.

After checking some Dr. No. websites (who knew) following found.

1962  Movie being filmed Vanzee Swamp   Valmouth, Jamaica   and Ocho Rioes, near the homes of Ian Fleming and Noel Coward

         Also movie filmed @ Reynolds Aluminum in Ochio Rios  (high pier)

At the time of the film, Jamaica was the largest producer of alumina.
Actual alumina plant used for the exterior of Dr. No's base in the film.

As a said before, never seen movie.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 07, 2005, 12:29:25 AM
Reynolds mines, plant and offices were situated in the HILLS south of Ocho Rios.

Ore mined in open pits, dried and then transported by OVER HEAD CONVEYOR BELT 6.3 miles long.

excerpted fom Book "Tour Jamaica" by Margaret Morris

found on discoverjamaica.con/gleaner  site



Much too sleepy, going to bed now :)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 12:36:38 AM
Thanks Lucy  , thanks guys & gals ..must get some sleep too  so that we can do it all again tomorrow  )_^> .
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 07, 2005, 10:55:20 AM
I guess we can't challenge an eyewitness to the San Juan Airport. But still shots of Uchenna and Joyce seem to look like they are in a different airport location.  Puddin's San Jaun Tourist Center Information sign has a large red sign behind it in Spanish saying "BIENVENDIDO" or Welcome.  No such sign seen behind the Tourist Information Center sign which UJchenna and Joyce run past. We also have shot of them in airport with red "Check In" sign above them and AJAS LIMITED sign on wall behind them.  Does San Juan Airport also have a service by Ajas Limited?  Our informtion is that it is only located at the Kingston Airport (KIN).

The shot of the three teams running toward the White Building certainly looks like they have bunched up waiting for the rafting experience to open up. Very similar to the run of the teams at the Railroad Museum in Budapest.

Any chance that bridge dive might be at some place in Puerto Rico, how about that, About That?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 11:13:06 AM
A few new screen grabs from  Dreamer ( more here )  (http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheAmazingRace&Number=1758166&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=&mrd=1115481545)  , dont know that they will help so fwiw~
Ron1 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9448/tar7ao021nz.jpg)
Ron2 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/7259/tar7ao031yk.jpg)
Ron 3 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9471/tar7ao046ip.jpg)
Romber1 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/2293/tar7ao068ly.jpg)
Romber 2 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9454/tar7ao079yh.jpg)
Romber3 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/1996/tar7tvfinale029qw.jpg)
Romber4 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/8872/tar7tvfinale036qc.jpg)
Romber5 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/3884/tar7tvfinale215wu.jpg)
Romber6 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/603/tar7tvfinale237jv.jpg)
U&J1 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/8051/tar7ao089zs.jpg)
U&J2 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/6978/tar7ao097mm.jpg)
R&K1 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9650/tar7tvfinale196py.jpg)
R&K2 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/5692/tar7tvfinale205ca.jpg)
U&J3 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/1893/tar7tvfinale180rb.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: about that on May 07, 2005, 11:24:52 AM
I guess we can't challenge an eyewitness to the San Juan Airport. But still shots of Uchenna and Joyce seem to look like they are in a different airport location.  Puddin's San Jaun Tourist Center Information sign has a large red sign behind it in Spanish saying "BIENVENDIDO" or Welcome.  No such sign seen behind the Tourist Information Center sign which UJchenna and Joyce run past. We also have shot of them in airport with red "Check In" sign above them and AJAS LIMITED sign on wall behind them.  Does San Juan Airport also have a service by Ajas Limited?  Our informtion is that it is only located at the Kingston Airport (KIN).

The shot of the three teams running toward the White Building certainly looks like they have bunched up waiting for the rafting experience to open up. Very similar to the run of the teams at the Railroad Museum in Budapest.

Any chance that bridge dive might be at some place in Puerto Rico, how about that, About That?

I haven't seen the preview itself, I've only seen the vidcaps. I haven't seen a vidcap of U/J running past a Tourist Info center.
This one with the AJAS sign is in Jamaica, not PR.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/TWOPclp/Ujairport.jpg)

The three pics of U/J in an area with white or shiny silver columns are in PR.


I am not familiar with the bridge-like structure where they jump into the water. I believe that the vidcaps of the teams running together, at the bridge and rafting, which seem to be on the same day, are from Jamaica.

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 01:38:47 PM
Since the may flies are tearing me apart I gave up the yard work ..what are we looking for aside from the stupid bridge structure ? Let me know as I have some free time on my hands and am in a search mood  :<(
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 07, 2005, 02:26:19 PM
Okay, take off your work gloves and start hunting for cabin shots of Air Jamaican and trans-Altlantic American Airlines planes.

Flight attendants too!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 03:24:07 PM
in the works  :]
(http://img180.echo.cx/img180/2278/minconjamaicanair3bi.th.jpg) (http://img180.echo.cx/my.php?image=minconjamaicanair3bi.jpg)

link (http://www.nynetball.homestead.com/files/MINC_on_Jamaican_Air.jpg)

(http://img64.echo.cx/img64/2665/homepage20air20jamaica20ce2af.jpg)
Air Jamaica  (http://www.expressionsholidays.co.uk/detail.aspx?t=caribbean-airline-home&1=ce&2=air-jamaica)

Air Jamaica operates a new Airbus A340-300 aircraft from London Heathrow to Montego Bay and Kingston, Jamaica. All flights are non-smoking. Air Jamaica London to Montego Bay are the included airline and route in our basic holiday prices for all Jamaican hotels on our website except Strawberry Hill for which we have included British Airways London to Kingston
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 03:27:31 PM
I just saw a PIP during the golf game .. I hope that our beloved Dreamer caught it ..lots of new stuff  |#'
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 03:38:18 PM
just happened on this , maybe , maybe not ? just spec .
(http://img180.echo.cx/img180/6788/5452stonyroad25fw.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/2293/tar7ao068ly.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7ao068ly.jpg)
Stony Hill, St. Andrew (http://www.sangstersrealty.com/properties/prop5452.htm)

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 07, 2005, 03:47:54 PM
puddin, what is a PIP, and if it was new stuff about the amazing race, what was it? (the new stuff i mean, what where they of)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 07, 2005, 03:48:37 PM
Female Air Jamaica flight attendants and employees wear brightly colored blouses: Flight attendant (http://www.expressionsholidays.co.uk/detail.aspx?t=caribbean-airline-home&1=ce&2=air-jamaica) and staff person (http://www.airjamaica.com/contact_us/offices.asp). I haven't found a picture of a male flight attendant yet.

American Airlines flight attendants and employees wear white shirts and either navy or red blazers. Sometimes they have navy or red ties, and sometimes the women wear navy dresses. Tiny image at top of this page: American Airlines careers page (http://www.aacareers.com/us/frame_index.htm?http&&&www.aacareers.com/us/index.shtml), and another from Getty images: American Airlines memorial event for 9/11 (http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51674278.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=CB711602F2C0BA52C6F113258EFB950FA9C30E9B9B114CE8).

Based on this, I think the picture of Rob and Amber on the plane is from American Airlines.

Also, Air Jamaica doesn't seem to fly to Puerto Rico, but you can fly AJ from London to Jamaica: Air Jamaica routes (http://www.airjamaica.com/routes2.asp).

Based on that, the shot is either from the flight from London to Jamaica or from Puerto Rico to the states, but not from Jamaica to PR.

Sorry I don't know how to paste the images in directly!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 07, 2005, 03:48:55 PM
Chateau, here is Raceygirls answer about the rain in Puerto Rico on the 18th:

"Nope, clear skies all around. Hot, humid Puerto Rico."
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 07, 2005, 03:58:28 PM
Quote
Based on that, the shot is either from the flight from London to Jamaica or from Puerto Rico to the states, but not from Jamaica to PR.

I found this shot of a British Airways stewardess uniform. http://www.bamuseum.com/90-present.html (scroll down)

I don't know if they actually wear those or not, never having been on a BA flight.

Since the flights from London to Jamaiica are either BA on 744's (have the 2 4 2 configuration) or on AA on 777's (2 5 2) configuration, that would have to be a BA flight from London to Jamaica if that's what it was. But that looks like an AA attendant. So, I think we can say that is a PR to Miami flight. Also R&A are wearing the exact same clothes as we seen them in the PR airport.

So, it looks like U&J have trouble at both the PR and Jamaican airport. I say the Jamaican flight they make it (by the skin of their teeth) but the PR flight they do not. There is that spoiler saying R&K are on a flight with no other teams from PR to Miami.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 04:02:42 PM
puddin, what is a PIP, and if it was new stuff about the amazing race, what was it? (the new stuff i mean, what where they of)
It was so small and fast and I dodnt have my VCR on but I do now , we see Amber jumping and U&J maybe on the raft ..I'm watching ...and recording
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 07, 2005, 04:05:42 PM
AMBER jumping from what...the bridge..

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1137&forum=DCForumID37&omm=70

those are some of the vid caps

we can conclude that amber has no problem with the limboing road block.
So i guess both the last roadblocks amber will have no problem with doing.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 04:10:32 PM
YES from the bridge ..just to confirm that she does  (*(

(http://img64.echo.cx/img64/4391/girlservicesmall2ww.gif) (http://img60.echo.cx/img60/6903/tar7103152es.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103152es.jpg)
AirJamaica (http://www.airjamaica.com/about_us.asp)

I dont know what airport this is but its a picture of a  Jamaica Airport .
(http://img64.echo.cx/img64/1646/airport4ia.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=airport4ia.jpg)
link  (http://jmcg.rucus.net/jpg/jaflcaaz/airport.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 07, 2005, 04:11:07 PM
Quote
"Nope, clear skies all around. Hot, humid Puerto Rico."

Wrong answer! (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/TJSJ/2004/12/18/DailyHistory.html)

Thanks supsandalee.  But then, what does it mean?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 07, 2005, 04:14:00 PM
OK so now we know this:

PriorWalter said amber rocks at the road blocks.

The first one is amber jumping off a bridge. That isn't to hard, she can EASLIY do that, then probably swimming back to shore is what exhaustes her.

The second roadblock looks like limbo. Amber is probably really good at that because i think she had to limbo on survivor one time.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 07, 2005, 04:56:44 PM
Quote
Thanks supsandalee.  But then, what does it mean?


The weather was Ok around the time she got there.  A clear day in Puerto Rico is different than a clearday in Texas.  It would have been nice for her info to match up with the web site, but...

The clear day also didn't match up with the day before or day after.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 07, 2005, 04:59:47 PM
Great work on all the flight attendant uniforms. 

Those BA stewardess remind me of Mary Poppins.
And Jettrue, I think the BA 744 has 3-4-3 seating  (http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_747-400_A.php) in the main portion of the economy class.

It’s pretty clear from the recent info that the RA clip is not on an Air Jamaica aircraft.

About Rob and Amber’s clothes, they are perfect matches to ones they are seen in in the San Juan airport when they are running toward the area with the sign “Boarding Passes Only”.  You can even see Rob has a yellow shirt under the red one in both clips.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 05:18:43 PM
Derby winner Giacomo  }w_{
anyway

Keoghan: Seventh 'Amazing Race' the best
Saturday, February 26 2005, 16:53 GMT -- by Daniel Kilkelly


The Amazing Race host Phil Keoghan has told viewers to expect a fantastic seventh season of the show.

The new season will see former Survivor contestants Rob Mariano and Amber Brkich competing as a team. The pair met during the Survivor All-Stars competition, which Brkich went on to win, and have since become engaged.

However, Keoghan has warned viewers not to automatically assume that they will win the show's $1 million prize.

Keoghan told Zap2it, "A lot of time on Survivor is spent sitting down and working out what you are going to do. There's no time to contemplate like that in The Amazing Race, where you have to make decisions in the moment, on the fly, very, very quickly.

"To me, this is actually the very antithesis of their experience on Survivor, so viewers will see them reacting to a completely different experience here."

He added, "I know I said this before about race five, but I honestly believe number seven is the best race that we have ever had.

"That has a lot to do with the teams we have, and I can assure you that the show has moved back to its roots in terms of the things that made people fall in love with this show in the first place."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds19522.html

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 07, 2005, 05:23:04 PM
 :] rob and amber are gonna win  :) :]
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 05:28:59 PM
AWESOME Posted by TARJunkie @ Blows (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1137.shtml) , thanks chosen and TAR Junkie !!
What are U&J doing ??

PIP1 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/231/427d0df33a42a19e7bx.jpg)
PIP2 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/8935/427d0ddb3a0d401b8kx.jpg)
PIP3 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/833/427d0e6b3b3a2d4d2ws.jpg)
PIP4 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/5038/427d0e383ad650640qj.jpg)
PIP5 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/3474/427d0e8d3b8a8ed08hc.jpg)
PIP6 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/8854/427d0ea43bd5650e0od.jpg)
PIP7 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/3503/427d0ec23c2549b94bi.jpg)
PIP8 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/5350/427d0edd3c696eac0yc.jpg)

PIP9 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/2909/427d0f083ce3a97d1do.jpg)
PIP10 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/5773/427d0ef33cb739fb5th.jpg)
PIP11 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/4237/427d0e503b0518185xb.jpg)
PIP12 (http://img29.echo.cx/img29/4425/427d0dba39d8db000md.jpg)


Limbo Jamaica (http://images.google.com/images?q=Limbo%20Jamaica%20&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-04,GGLD:en&sa=N&tab=wi)
OK so now we know this:

PriorWalter said amber rocks at the road blocks.

The first one is amber jumping off a bridge. That isn't to hard, she can EASLIY do that, then probably swimming back to shore is what exhaustes her.

The second roadblock looks like limbo. Amber is probably really good at that because i think she had to limbo on survivor one time.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 07, 2005, 05:43:16 PM
The weird thing is , i think the rafting/jumping/limbo-ing all happens in 1 day because Rob and Amber are both wearing the same clothes they are seen wearing on the raft, and amber is in a bathing suit after she jumps, but you see rob holding her other clothes, and it is the black and red and white jump suit thingy.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 07, 2005, 05:56:48 PM
Maybe the rafting is one part of a detour, and Uchenna and Joyce are doing the other option, which is something to do with gathering bauxite to form alumina. Not as crazy as it sounds. This site shows a diagram for how bauxite rocks are processed into alumina (http://www.world-aluminium.org/production/refining/), which then makes aluminum. Maybe they have to fill a certain quota?

page with a map of Jamaica showing bauxite mining locations (http://wwwchem.uwimona.edu.jm:1104/lectures/bauxite.html).

Alcoa (http://www.alcoa.com/alumina/en/market_map.asp?lc=7&continent=North_America) does business in Jamaica, and <a href="http://www.alcoa.com/global/en/about_alcoa/dirt.asp>this page and linked video[/url] show how alumina is made.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 06:15:38 PM
OK PIP9
Ucheena shirt is off /Joyce white shirt no jacket it must be after he jumps from the bridge ?
(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/3007/tar7103180hh.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103180hh.jpg)  (http://img60.echo.cx/img60/2095/tar7103202ho.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103202ho.jpg)
(http://img53.echo.cx/img53/2909/427d0f083ce3a97d1do.jpg)
IN PIP3 & 11
 Joyce has her black jacket on , it almost looks like Bamboo in 3?



Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 07, 2005, 06:24:09 PM
Just a little tidbit...

The Limbo is the National dance of Trinidad... which is also there in the Carribbean... ya never know.   :) island hopping could be fun...
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 06:32:53 PM
True jetrue
we still have this fun flash intro
(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/3931/tar7flash1052km2ty.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7flash1052km2ty.jpg)
(http://img107.exs.cx/img107/6236/caribtightropewalker7wl.jpg)
San Juan Puerto Rico  (http://209.192.229.88/ca/common/index.php?lng=ENG&div=EF&nav=EF&page=N09)

(http://img51.echo.cx/img51/3745/tar7flash0402vs1bl.th.jpg) (http://img51.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7flash0402vs1bl.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 07, 2005, 07:22:52 PM
Maybe the rafting is one part of a detour, and Uchenna and Joyce are doing the other option, which is something to do with gathering bauxite to form alumina. Not as crazy as it sounds. This site shows a diagram for how bauxite rocks are processed into alumina (http://www.world-aluminium.org/production/refining/), which then makes aluminum. Maybe they have to fill a certain quota?

page with a map of Jamaica showing bauxite mining locations (http://wwwchem.uwimona.edu.jm:1104/lectures/bauxite.html).

Alcoa (http://www.alcoa.com/alumina/en/market_map.asp?lc=7&continent=North_America) does business in Jamaica, and <a href="http://www.alcoa.com/global/en/about_alcoa/dirt.asp>this page and linked video[/url] show how alumina is made.

It just maybe something like that Ucheena has gloves on...hmmmm
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: about that on May 07, 2005, 07:28:55 PM
FWIW, I arrived to San Juan on Dec 18 2004 @ noon for my Christmas holiday. It wasn't raining. It was hot and humid. It didn't rain during the rest of the day. I remember that the road was wet when we left the airport and my mother told me there had been light rain in the morning. Perhaps it rained harder in other parts of the island that day (per the weather report posted in this thread), but at least in the metro area there was light rain in the morning and the rest of the day was pretty clear.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 08, 2005, 12:09:19 PM
I noticed something interesting in the vidcaps of Joyce and Uchenna. They have two bandannas, one black and one blue, which they alternate wearing (and sometimes Uchenna doesn’t wear one). They also have three outfits in these clips: 1) Joyce in black jacket zipped up or down (white shirt not visible) and Uchenna in white t-shirt; 1)Joyce in black jacket (white shirt visible underneath) and Uchenna in either white shirt or yellow shirt; and 3) Joyce in white shirt, Uchenna in yellow shirt. Based on the bandannas, the outfits and the lighting, I think the order of their clips might be something like this (#s are from original order in screen caps):

In car on way to task
20. U blue bandanna, J black bandanna. U wearing white t-shirt, J wearing black jacket, white shirt not visible, in car. Lighting is odd, perhaps florescent light leaving airport?
3. J black bandanna, black jacket zipped up (daylight, flat tire)
4. U blue bandanna, J black bandanna. U wearing white t-shirt, J wearing black jacket zipped up in daylight, flat tire.

Doing the task
PIP 3. J black bandanna, black jacket (daylight, possible bamboo in background)
PIP 11. U blue bandanna, J black one. U has white shirt on, J is wearing black jacket zipped down. Seem to be grinding white rocks together.  Both have clear plastic gloves on. Daylight.
PIP 9. Hard to tell about bandannas. U seems to not have one on, J could have black bandanna. U seems to have no shirt on, J wearing just white shirt, not black jacket (daylight, running from fort-looking building, carrying bundles in their hands)

After the task, back in car
63. U blue bandanna, J black one. U wearing white shirt, J wearing black jacket zipped down, white shirt not visible). They look kind of sweaty. (in same size car as earlier, but seems to be dusk, late in the day)
64. U blue bandanna, J black one (same as 63)
PIP 1. same as 63/64 – U blue one, J black one.

Racing to building (different task, different day, after NEL)
11. U no bandanna, J blue bandanna. U wearing yellow long-sleeved shirt, J wearing white shirt (the Raceygirl outfit) They aren't sweaty. Running to building with R/A and R/K right behind, seems like daylight.

Arriving at  Puerto Rico airport
Raceygirl picture. U no bandanna, J blue one. U wearing yellow shirt, J wearing white shirt, U carrying black plastic bag (running into airport in Puerto Rico)

In Puerto Rico airport
5. U no bandanna, J blue one. U wearing yellow long-sleeved shirt, J wearing black jacket (can’t see white shirt) (in empty-looking airport)
6. U no bandanna. Yellow long-sleeved shirt, airport.
7. U no bandanna, J wearing blue one. U yellow long-sleeved shirt, J white shirt visible under black jacket (airport)

Based on this order, here’s my guess at the timeline.

London to Jamaica

1. Arrive Jamaica.
2. Joyce/Uchenna have flat tire.
3. Cops pull over Rob/Amber's car.
4. Ron/Kelly seem to have no travel mishaps.
5. Detour: Mining or something else. Uchenna/Joyce mine. Ron/Kelly not seen, Amber/Rob not seen.
6. Roadblock:  Jump and swim: Jump from “bridge”, swim certain distance, then climb up hill. Amber does it.  Ron does it. U/J not seen.
7. Amber can’t run after swimming, Rob carries her.
8. Amber limbos, still in outfit she wore swimming. Still part of the roadblock? Rob seems to be waiting outside. Ron seems to be running in same location where Rob is. Seems to be night time.
9. Pit stop: Rob/Amber first, Ron/Kelly second, Uchenna/Joyce last in final NEL.

Jamaica to Puerto Rico

1. Hours of Operation at white building force bunching. Uchenna and Joyce are wearing the clothes they are wearing in Raceygirl’s photo.
2. Detour: rafting or something else. Rob/Amber raft. Uchenna/Joyce and Ron/Kelly not seen.
3. Clue: leave Jamaica (go to PR? Miami?)
4. Is there a task in PR?
5. Amber/Rob get good flight from PR to Miami (or think they do) and are happy on plane.
6. Uchenna/Joyce arrive Puerto Rico (Raceygirl photo) but miss good flight from PR to Miami.  Joyce puts on black jacket inside airport.
7. Ron seen asking someone for information in PR. PossiblyRob in background of that photo, which could contradict R/A getting on better flight.

I still don't get why they would combine jumping with limbo. Maybe "who wants to get down?" Odd.

I can't get the pictures of Joyce crying to fit any scenario, unless she switches bandannas from black to blue, in which case it could be en route to Puerto Rico. Or if they have a connecting flight in Jamaica and they switch bandannas then.

In Jamaica airport?
9. J black bandanna, black jacket (can’t see white shirt) J is crying in airport. Note red chairs in background, which you don’t see in other airport pics where the chairs look black or gray.
67. U no bandanna, J black bandanna. U yellow shirt, J wearing black jacket (in airport in Jamaica based on AJAS sign in background). U is hugging Joyce, we can't see her face.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 01:19:31 PM
Nice Orlando  ]**]

Ron gets a backpack in London
(http://img68.echo.cx/img68/516/bp13yc.jpg) (http://img68.echo.cx/img68/3095/bp27gh.jpg) London airport / we know this from the over head shots /signs
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 08, 2005, 01:23:19 PM
Nice Orlando  ]**]

Ron gets a backpack in London
(http://img68.echo.cx/img68/516/bp13yc.jpg) (http://img68.echo.cx/img68/3095/bp27gh.jpg) London airport / we know this from the over head shots /signs

Great catch puddin.  You amaze me. 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 08, 2005, 01:44:59 PM
Quote
Ron gets a backpack in London

Nice, job Puddin.  And not just in London.  They sell backpacks at Heathrow's 'left luggage' stand.  I had to buy one there once.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 02:11:09 PM
Awesome Chateau

getting closer , not quite yet  :]
(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/2095/tar7103202ho.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103202ho.jpg)
(http://img208.echo.cx/img208/2104/bauxiteterminal53pe.gif)

Ian Flemings Jamaica . link (http://www.commanders.com/flemings_jamaica/pages/north_coast_10.html)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 03:10:23 PM
Just watched the PIP in slow mo
Amber/ Ucheena /Ron jump from the structure for sure
Amber in Red top/tank suit whatever  Black bottom/suit  panties whatever
Ucheena Black bottoms
Ron his regular clothes / blue shirt and Khaki zip shorts
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 08, 2005, 03:13:22 PM
Puddin is there anyway you can post the PIP online?  :]
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 03:29:30 PM
The only way I can do that it take pictures off my tv with my digetal camara , trust me they are not worth it ..I've tried  (%# .
Also to note while Romber are on the rafts they are pointing so they are probably looking for a flag /marker .
While U&J are doing what maybe some sort of " ore" searching ( both with plastic gloves on ) they are not happy at all .

Roadblock / Jumping from bridge structure whatever
Amber
Ucheena
Ron

other Roadblock  ( guessing this is a roadblock )
Limbo
Amber /Rob cheering her on Note : it looks like nightime to me .
Note: Ron running maybe somewhere near the limbo area ? its dark but the building /wall is lit up with ground spotlights and you could see a city or lights far away in the back ground .

Detours
Raft
Amber/Rob

other detour spec
Ore or mineral/ seach / dig ?
Ucheena & Joyce
rumored Golf  detour ?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Traegen on May 08, 2005, 03:42:47 PM
Something I noticed from the new preview:

Amber is seen doing the Limbo task at night
Ron is seen running around at night
All the U/J pics are during daylight.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 08, 2005, 03:43:26 PM
Some more things to ponder:

Flights from LHR to KIN are via on American Airlines. One flight leaves at 9:45AM and arrives at 5:55PM via Miami. This seems to me to be the flight they take if they leave the morning after the pitstop.  I estimate that Ron and Amber finish first in mid-afternoon before the sun sets at 3:51. Both Ron and Kelly and Uchenna and Joyce arrive after it is completely pitch black and Tower Bridge is brightly lit, so they probably arrive somewhere around 5:00PM or later.  Therefore, R/A would be leaving around 2:00AM and the others around 5:00AM.  Unless there is some other task to perform, they all could bunch up on the 9:45AM flight. There are other flight possiblities but they all leave in the evening and arrive in Jamaica around noon time the following day. There have been no hints at the teams doing anything in London before flying off to Jamaica, but there are a lot of possiblities for them to do stuff during the day, Dec. 14 and then fly off to Jamaica on Dec. 15.  This would give them a good 5 hours to complete tasks in Jamaica before the sun sets at 5:33PM.

There are new shots of Ron running up to a brightly lit castle or fort in Jamaica (after 5:30PM)  This could be FORT CHARLES  in Kingston the only remaining of six forts that at one time guarded the harbor of Kingston.  Will try to locate a picture of Fort Charles (hey, Puddin' are you listening?)  Also it looks like the limbo may occur here or it could be the pit stop in Jamaica.

Interesting thing to note, which isn't captured by the vidcaps. We have Rob and Amber scrambling down the steep embankment to the river for the rafting bit.  But on the way down they seem to pass Uchenna (white tank top) and Joyce (black shirt) on the way UP!  Have they taken one look at the rafting bit and decided to do the other part of the DETOUR which seems to be building something which looks like a ladder or some such. Kelly and Ron are doing the same task! And the shots here do not match U/J running to the white building.

On the run to the white building, this is a typical scene of how the teams bunch up at the beginning of the day when they have to wait for some attraction to open. (Railroad Museum in Budapest for example.)

We have shots of Uchenna and Joyce with plastic hand protectors on handling some kine of rocks or something.  Another Detour task?

AND, there is a quick shot of someone driving a golf ball on some golf course.  This does not look like a team member but a production dude during Phil's intro to the task (as was the case of the couple running across Abbey Road last week.)

So that's another task and we already seem to have two ROADBLOCKS Bridge Jumping and Limbo.

And two DETOURS: Rafting and Building Bamboo; Picking buxite ore and Driving golf balls

Or is Limbo a team task and Rob has to be limber also?

So much information being given us BUt with one important ingredient missing:  WHAT HAPPENS ON WHAT DAY IN WHAT ORDER?

And most important of all what happens in Jamaica and what happens in PR and do we go to another island like the Bahamas?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 03:58:06 PM
So U&J must get mugged/ NEL before they hit Puerto Rico, thats one thing we know for sure , right ?
Another Team is at the mercy of strangers when they are forced to beg for money. 
Jamaica airport~
(http://img104.echo.cx/img104/71/tar7finale263hy.th.jpg)  (http://img104.echo.cx/img104/5185/tar7finale319ae.th.jpg) (http://img56.echo.cx/img56/142/224yu.th.jpg)

P/R airport~ Maybe Joyce ditched  her black jacket or its tied around her waist  ?
(http://img51.echo.cx/img51/690/0000008qo.th.jpg)

Rons London Vidcap new backpack
London airport
(http://img68.echo.cx/img68/3095/bp27gh.th.jpg) (http://img68.echo.cx/my.php?image=bp27gh.jpg)
P/R airport new backpack not NEL losers
(http://img51.echo.cx/img51/7190/2ioz818at.th.jpg) (http://img51.echo.cx/my.php?image=2ioz818at.jpg)

Romber full backpacks / Puerto Rico
(http://img23.echo.cx/img23/9258/tar7finale243dj.th.jpg)

Who loses the clue ? Did U&J lose the clue and just miss their flight ?

Also, a team makes the crucial mistake of leaving a clue behind while shopping at a bookstore.
Joyce at Jamaica airport can we please make it ? its a race can we make it on this flight <crys> I dont know what were going to do ?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 08, 2005, 04:16:06 PM
It lookls like one DETOUR  is either to steer a raft down stream or build something out of bamboo.  U/J go down to the river bank but come back up (change their minds on which task to do for the detour) and go to the building area (they are dressed the same as on the riverbank: Uchenna white tank top; Joyce with black shirt.)  Kelly and Ron are also seen at work with Kelly banging what looks like at ladder rung.

And there is a golf shot. So it looks like this is part of another detour since we have two ROADBLOCKS so far: Bridge Jump and Limbo.

But could the Bridge Jump be in Puerto Rico and not Jamaica? Or do we have two Roadblocks in one day? That would be a first!

Just thought of something: could the DETOUR be: Diving or Driving?  One team member must dive off the bridge, or one team member must drive the golf balls?  That could lead to the ROADBLOCK for the LIMBO.

Just tossing out ideas here.

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 04:20:40 PM
Someone guessed above that it maybe Ron&Kelly that lose there  clue in a bookstore ..
watching the insider clips again , the thing that Kelly misses the most from her bags  ..her Bible , lipstick and toothbrush , but just to note she says that she has the bible memorized .  [^/
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 04:24:21 PM
It lookls like one DETOUR is either to steer a raft down stream or build something out of bamboo. U/J go down to the river bank but come back up (change their minds on which task to do for the detour) and go to the building area (they are dressed the same as on the riverbank: Uchenna white tank top; Joyce with black shirt.) Kelly and Ron are also seen at work with Kelly banging what looks like at ladder rung.

And there is a golf shot. So it looks like this is part of another detour since we have two ROADBLOCKS so far: Bridge Jump and Limbo.

But could the Bridge Jump be in Puerto Rico and not Jamaica? Or do we have two Roadblocks in one day? That would be a first!

Just thought of something: could the DETOUR be: Diving or Driving? One team member must dive off the bridge, or one team member must drive the golf balls? That could lead to the ROADBLOCK for the LIMBO.

Just tossing out ideas here.



I missed that promo Gman  :':') good to know more details . If anyone finds new vidcaps please link them or bring them over  |#'
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 08, 2005, 05:10:14 PM
Maybe Ron running in front of the fort has nothing to do with the limbo? Maybe they have to get a clue in Puerto Rico, and their task is to go from the airport to old San Juan, find a <a href="http://www.nps.gov/saju/forts.html>specific fort[/url] and search for their next clue, which tells them to go the final pitstop?

There are a lot of forts in old San Juan (http://www.iit.edu/~PR/sanjuan.html). It's not that far from the airport 30-45 minutes, I think.


EDITED TO ADD: looking at this picture of Fort Charles in Jamaica (http://www.jnht.com/forts/charles.html), it looks like that could be where Ron is running after all.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 08, 2005, 05:23:31 PM
Quote
I estimate that Ron and Amber finish first in mid-afternoon before the sun sets at 3:51. Both Ron and Kelly and Uchenna and Joyce arrive after it is completely pitch black and Tower Bridge is brightly lit, so they probably arrive somewhere around 5:00PM or later.


GMan, you're so lucky.  I have not seen these new promos.

My guesses for checkin times are:   R&A at 2:38 pm      U&J at 4:58 pm

No solar analysis this time.  I just used the clock on the building across the street from where taxi drops them.   8-)'
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 08, 2005, 06:48:30 PM
Dreamer just posted great new caps: TAR finale promo (http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheAmazingRace&Number=1762848&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&mrd=1115595747) on jokersupdates.

I still don't understand how Uchenna and Joyce look so clean in the Raceygirl picture where they are going into the PR airport. In these caps, we see them in the outfit from the Raceygirl picture, but they look like they've been in the water, and Uchenna's pants are drenched.

Is it in Jamaica before the NEL? If so, when did they change clothes and swap bandannas?
Is it the next day, after the NEL, and the diving is the final task before leaving Jamaica for PR, so their clothes have dried by the time they reach PR?
Or is it a task in PR?

And also, why is there a clip from outside Fenway Park (where Rob and Amber's intro pic is from)? It's right before the golf course clip. There aren't any clips from U/J or R/K's intros.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 07:11:49 PM
 :] :] YAYYYYY Thanks Orlando !!

I'll start numbering them at 200

200 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/8153/tar7finaletv2023zd.jpg) Amber
201 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/6045/tar7finaletv2033yd.jpg)
202 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/255/tar7finaletv2049os.jpg)
203 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/860/tar7finaletv2051pn.jpg)
204 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/1277/tar7finaletv2060tc.jpg)
205 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/7106/tar7finaletv2076wj.jpg)
206 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/3654/tar7finaletv2081tg.jpg)
207 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5931/tar7finaletv2096lk.jpg) Uchenna
208 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/3182/tar7finaletv2121mb.jpg) GolfCourse
209 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/3748/tar7finaletv2139kp.jpg)
210 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/6311/tar7finaletv2145ns.jpg) Some Dude
211 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/2300/tar7finaletv2154wz.jpg)
212 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/2096/tar7finaletv2169gp.jpg)
213 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/6874/tar7finaletv2177ix.jpg)U&J going up / Romber going down
214 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/9447/tar7finaletv2184ev.jpg)
215 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/4144/tar7finaletv2196jk.jpg)
216 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/4058/tar7finaletv2208ur.jpg)
217 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/2847/tar7finaletv2210ey.jpg) U&J ?
218 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5829/tar7finaletv2220av.jpg)
219 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/4331/tar7finaletv2231qo.jpg)
220 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/7039/tar7finaletv2249to.jpg) R&K
221 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/9907/tar7finaletv2250qw.jpg)
222 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5226/tar7finaletv2266yz.jpg)
223 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/9307/tar7finaletv2275uc.jpg)
224 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/1213/tar7finaletv2286qa.jpg)
225 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/1812/tar7finaletv2299cw.jpg)
226 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5085/tar7finaletv2302cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 08, 2005, 07:14:44 PM
theory: Uchenna and Joyce are a few miniutes ahead of rob and amber, and choose the rafting detour. They run down the hill and see it, and turn around and go back up to do the other detour. Why else would they be running out, the most logical theory would be the teams would get their clue at the other side of the river or what ever it is, and then just leave from there, not raft back.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 08, 2005, 07:22:34 PM
Re:  The Fort shown and Ron running.

I think from seeing those very fuzzy vidcaps, it also could Castillo de San Cristo'pal  in Old San Juan looks very similar as Orlando thoughts on the Fort Charles one. ???cant capture photos, but did visit couple sites, it most matched the little bit we see.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 08, 2005, 07:27:28 PM
Quote
I estimate that Ron and Amber finish first in mid-afternoon before the sun sets at 3:51. Both Ron and Kelly and Uchenna and Joyce arrive after it is completely pitch black and Tower Bridge is brightly lit, so they probably arrive somewhere around 5:00PM or later.


GMan, you're so lucky.  I have not seen these new promos.

My guesses for checkin times are:   R&A at 2:38 pm      U&J at 4:58 pm

No solar analysis this time.  I just used the clock on the building across the street from where taxi drops them.   8-)'

Gee, I missed the clock and came up with almost the same times just by guessing how big a lead R/A had. But no matter, it just means that everyone ends up bunched at the airport either the next morning or that afternoon, if they have to do some task in London first which CBs has carefully not shown any promos of.

With the time running out on the racers before their appearance in San Juan Puerto Rico, I am leaning toward guessing that they take the 9:45AM flight to Kingston va Miami arriving in Kindston at 5:05PM.  The airport is on the way from downtown Kingston to Port Royal the location of one of Kingston's best know landmarks: FORT CHARLES which I'm sure would be floodlit at night.  And this is wild guess that the clue tells them to proceed to the fort for their next task. This could be the limbo which we see being done at night.  Ron is running toward the castle late arriving after Rob and Amber.  Uchenna and Joyce are not seen because they stopped in a bookstore at the airport to buy a guide to Jamaica and that is where they lost the clue and perhaps had to go back and try to find it so they are running very late to the Fort.

But again, it doesn't matter as all three teams arrive at the Bridge and have to wait until daybreak (5:34AM) to run in and find the clue box.

The first task is the ROADBLOCK to dive off the bridge.  Ron, Amber and Uchenna do this task.

Completing the task leads them to the DETOUR: Steer a bamboo craft down a rapidly moving river, or Build a structure from Bamboo. Uchenna and Joyce start out to do Steer, but change their minds and climb back up the cliff passing Rob and Amber coming down who do the task.  Ron and Kelly just do the Build task.

Two unaccounted tasks:  sorting some kind of rocks or buxite ore samples; and hitting golf balls somewhere.

And the mystery of all mysteries why in the world are they going to Puerto Rico from Jamaica when most flights have to backtrack first through Florida (Miami or Fort Lauderdale)

Could it be that from Jamaica they go first to another Caribbean Island and then to Puerto Rico?  We still have some unaccounted for pix in the flash intro sequences.

Open to ideas (except for who wins and loses - that's another thread)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 07:27:47 PM
curiouser and curiouser, why does it seem that U&J have gloves on? but not R&K ?

Hey Gman Raft or Craft ?  {l{
(http://img61.echo.cx/img61/7039/tar7finaletv2249to.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2249to.jpg)

(http://img53.echo.cx/img53/4237/427d0e503b0518185xb.jpg)
(http://img53.echo.cx/img53/492/427d0e6b3b3a2d4d0gq.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 07:34:41 PM
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http://But no matter, it just means that everyone ends up bunched at the airport either the next morning or that afternoon, if they have to do some task in London first which CBs has carefully not shown any promos of.
Maybe we get to see the Bell ringer ? We did see the whirling Dervishes as the last place to get the clue in Turkey to head to london ?




 
(http://img78.exs.cx/img78/9797/TAR7flash035.th.jpg)(http://img78.exs.cx/img78/6256/TAR7flash075.th.jpg)



Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 07:40:12 PM
210 assume Jamaica ( spoiler ) I'll look for it in my travels
204 & 218 a better view of the structures so I'm off to Island hop ..

Lucy if you could postthe links I'll gladly host your pictures   ]**]
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 08:13:41 PM
Credits to Lucy325 for the find   }bis{

(http://img173.echo.cx/img173/6839/jamm15wn.jpg)  Ritz-Carlton’s White Witch in Montego Bay - (http://www.travelgolf.com/whitewitch1.htm)


(http://img61.echo.cx/img61/6311/tar7finaletv2145ns.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2145ns.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/3182/tar7finaletv2121mb.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2121mb.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 08, 2005, 08:45:10 PM
Raft or Craft - I like that, I like that!

OK, we now have a golfer at Montego Bay.  Course looks similar to the quick shot on todays promo.  But golfer probably is not any of the team players: certainly not Amber, Joyce or Kelly; and not Uchenna nor Ron. And as far as I know Rob has never worn a white baseball cap.  So this is probably a production goofer filling during Phil's VO Intro. But is it Detour or Roadblock?  If it is a Roadblock it means we will have three in the two hours, and who would be able to do it as by the end of the other two Roadblocks (Jump and Limbo) everyone would have done the maximum six.  Two possiblilities to ponder: 1.  Limbo is not a Roadblock or 2. Golf is one part of a two part Detour. What would the other task be?
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 08, 2005, 08:54:04 PM
Thanks to Puddin for the photo, believe it or not, I still dont know how to do that here.....maybe posting for dummies is in order, lol
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 09:01:01 PM
 >^% What do you want me to look for Gman ?
Could the production goofer /golfer been mistaken for another team?

bump ~

Quote
The Jamaica spoiler credits to Blows

Quote
tortfeasorette 12 desperate attention whore postings
DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
 12-24-04, 01:42 AM (EST)
     
"TAR Spotted Filming Last Week"
My friends were in Jamaica on vacation last week and spotted TAR filming at a resort there. They saw three teams (at least one was a male/female couple -- not Rob & Amber) do either a roadblock or a detour (involving hitting golf balls to a specified area). They said the third team was far behind the other two (like five hours). 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Traegen on May 08, 2005, 09:29:52 PM
What if Golf isn't a Roadblock or a Detour it is just something the teams have to do to get their next clue. That would make the tasks in Jamaica:

Detour: Raft or Craft
Roadblock: Jump
Random Clue getting task: Golf
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 09:31:21 PM
per request ( my picture hosting is acting funky so click on the link if tou see a red X .)
Jamaica
Image: fort-charles2.jpg (http://www.rickyrobinson.id.au/internship/jamaica/index/pages/fort-charles2.html)

(http://www.rickyrobinson.id.au/internship/jamaica/index/images/full/fort-charles2.jpg)

Castillo de San Cristo'pal  in Old San Juan  (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://photos1.blogger.com/img/167/1273/640/Castillo%2520de%2520San%2520Marcos.jpg&imgrefurl=http://danceoflife.blogspot.com/2004/08/another-view-of-fort.html&h=480&w=640&sz=36&tbnid=jTRBl3h-_eoJ:&tbnh=101&tbnw=135&hl=en&start=15&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCastillo%2Bde%2BSan%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2005-04,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN)
(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/167/1273/400/Castillo%20de%20San%20Marcos.jpg)
(http://auctionuploader.com/uploads/302_.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 08, 2005, 10:46:55 PM
Castillo de San Cristo'pal  in Old San Juan [/url]
(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/167/1273/400/Castillo%20de%20San%20Marcos.jpg)
(http://auctionuploader.com/uploads/302_.jpg)


Don't forget El Morro fort. It is also in Old San Juan and is much larger than San Cristobal. I have pictures of both (non-digital in photo albums).
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 11:01:35 PM

In the best sort of order I can figure for now  {}{
adding #numbers




London Airport
100 (http://img54.echo.cx/img54/7303/tar7finale038dk.th.jpg) (http://img54.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale038dk.jpg)



101 (http://img54.echo.cx/img54/6827/tar7finale021bw.th.jpg) (http://img54.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale021bw.jpg)


102 (http://img23.echo.cx/img23/1015/tar7finale010bo.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale010bo.jpg)

Ron & Kelly
some other airport
 103 (http://img54.echo.cx/img54/9882/427819aa38de32845pu.th.jpg) (http://img54.echo.cx/my.php?image=427819aa38de32845pu.jpg)




104(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/2267/tar7103059ty.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103059ty.jpg)Kelly< crying > : I Love You




105 (http://img23.echo.cx/img23/268/tar7finale044cs.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale044cs.jpg)


 106(http://img54.echo.cx/img54/2872/4278245e04384aea4in.th.jpg) (http://img54.echo.cx/my.php?image=4278245e04384aea4in.jpg)


107(http://img23.echo.cx/img23/3649/tar7finale078yh.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale078yh.jpg)Your breaking my heart

police Jamaica

108(http://img23.echo.cx/img23/8413/tar7finale116ft.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale116ft.jpg)


109(http://img23.echo.cx/img23/2125/tar7finale134kg.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale134kg.jpg)


110(http://img23.echo.cx/img23/8403/tar7finale168gt.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale168gt.jpg) 


111(http://img133.echo.cx/img133/5047/42781a3a3cc054354on.th.jpg) (http://img133.echo.cx/my.php?image=42781a3a3cc054354on.jpg)

112(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/2219/tar7103090uj.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103090uj.jpg)Are you kidding me
,that cops gonna cost us a million bucks



113(http://img133.echo.cx/img133/251/427820bc6bccae416yf.th.jpg) (http://img133.echo.cx/my.php?image=427820bc6bccae416yf.jpg)
flat

114(http://img133.echo.cx/img133/6149/42781a5b3d6629406lj.th.jpg) (http://img133.echo.cx/my.php?image=42781a5b3d6629406lj.jpg)

115(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/5114/tar7103108cp.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103108cp.jpg)

116(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/9016/tar7103118uf.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103118uf.jpg)what was that ? unbeleivable ! no fricking way !


117(http://img133.echo.cx/img133/5909/42781a763e1a59044js.th.jpg) (http://img133.echo.cx/my.php?image=42781a763e1a59044js.jpg)


118 (http://img56.echo.cx/img56/8699/163hw.th.jpg) (http://img56.echo.cx/my.php?image=163hw.jpg)

119(http://img64.echo.cx/img64/8051/tar7ao089zs.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7ao089zs.jpg)

120(http://img56.echo.cx/img56/6882/177iy.th.jpg) (http://img56.echo.cx/my.php?image=177iy.jpg)

JUTA Tours (http://www.jutatoursnegrilltd.com/JUTACoaster_7543lg.htm)



Ron & Kelly

121 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/5692/tar7tvfinale205ca.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7tvfinale205ca.jpg)


122 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9650/tar7tvfinale196py.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7tvfinale196py.jpg) 



Picture out of sequence but will leave it here for now.
123 (http://img60.echo.cx/img60/3633/tar7103177dw.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103177dw.jpg) Jamaica water bottle  (http://img239.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn10935vz.jpg)  Please Lord let help us be the first team


group run toward bridge/structure ?

124(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/3007/tar7103180hh.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103180hh.jpg)

roadblock??
125(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/5120/tar7103195wx.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103195wx.jpg)

126 (http://img60.echo.cx/img60/2095/tar7103202ho.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103202ho.jpg)

127 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9471/tar7ao046ip.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7ao046ip.jpg)

128 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/7259/tar7ao031yk.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7ao031yk.jpg)

129(http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9448/tar7ao021nz.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7ao021nz.jpg)

 
130(http://img61.echo.cx/img61/6045/tar7finaletv2033yd.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2033yd.jpg)


131(http://img61.echo.cx/img61/255/tar7finaletv2049os.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2049os.jpg)


132 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/1277/tar7finaletv2060tc.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2060tc.jpg)

133 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/3654/tar7finaletv2081tg.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2081tg.jpg)

134 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5931/tar7finaletv2096lk.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2096lk.jpg)






Romber Run
135 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/2293/tar7ao068ly.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7ao068ly.jpg)

136 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/9454/tar7ao079yh.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7ao079yh.jpg)



137 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/1996/tar7tvfinale029qw.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7tvfinale029qw.jpg) I Cant Run


138 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/8872/tar7tvfinale036qc.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7tvfinale036qc.jpg)


139 (http://img60.echo.cx/img60/984/tar7103228ne.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103228ne.jpg)




140 (http://img60.echo.cx/img60/6310/tar7103238tp.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103238tp.jpg) hop on ,come on baby a million bucks


Raft
141 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/6874/tar7finaletv2177ix.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2177ix.jpg)

142 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/9447/tar7finaletv2184ev.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2184ev.jpg)

143 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/4144/tar7finaletv2196jk.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2196jk.jpg)
144 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/4058/tar7finaletv2208ur.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2208ur.jpg)
145 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/1213/tar7finaletv2286qa.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2286qa.jpg)
146 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/1812/tar7finaletv2299cw.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2299cw.jpg)
147 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5085/tar7finaletv2302cd.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2302cd.jpg)



148 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/3884/tar7tvfinale215wu.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7tvfinale215wu.jpg)

149 (http://img64.echo.cx/img64/603/tar7tvfinale237jv.th.jpg) (http://img64.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7tvfinale237jv.jpg)


Ron & Kelly Craft Raft?
150 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/7039/tar7finaletv2249to.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2249to.jpg)
151 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/9907/tar7finaletv2250qw.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2250qw.jpg)
152 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5226/tar7finaletv2266yz.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2266yz.jpg)


153 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/833/427d0e6b3b3a2d4d2ws.jpg) U&J ?? Craft /Raft

U&J something else  ?? I'll leave it here for now . OchoRio mine/dig/ something ?
154 (http://img53.echo.cx/img53/4237/427d0e503b0518185xb.jpg)

155  (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/2847/tar7finaletv2210ey.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2210ey.jpg)



156 (http://img61.echo.cx/img61/5829/tar7finaletv2220av.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2220av.jpg)

 Amber Limbo

(http://img53.echo.cx/img53/5350/427d0edd3c696eac0yc.jpg)





U&J Airport

158(http://img104.echo.cx/img104/71/tar7finale263hy.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale263hy.jpg)


159(http://img104.echo.cx/img104/9489/tar7finale276vg.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale276vg.jpg)


160 (http://img104.echo.cx/img104/5984/tar7finale284fi.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale284fi.jpg)


161 (http://img104.echo.cx/img104/5185/tar7finale319ae.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale319ae.jpg)

162(http://img56.echo.cx/img56/142/224yu.th.jpg) (http://img56.echo.cx/my.php?image=224yu.jpg)
can we please make it ? its a race  can we make on this  flight <crys> I dont know what were going to  do ?


(http://img51.echo.cx/img51/690/0000008qo.th.jpg) (http://img51.echo.cx/my.php?image=0000008qo.jpg) RaceyGirls P/R picture (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1068.shtml)


Romber  airport

163 (http://img23.echo.cx/img23/9258/tar7finale243dj.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale243dj.jpg) 
Tarjunkie999 blows found of San Juan aiport. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,5608.0.html)
164(http://img23.echo.cx/img23/1277/tar7finale259vc.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale259vc.jpg)



165(http://img23.echo.cx/img23/1627/tar7finale296jh.th.jpg) (http://img23.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale296jh.jpg)


166(http://img60.echo.cx/img60/6903/tar7103152es.th.jpg) (http://img60.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7103152es.jpg)


167(http://img53.echo.cx/img53/3019/tar1pip9rj.th.jpg) (http://img53.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar1pip9rj.jpg)

168(http://img53.echo.cx/img53/2743/tar2pip0rb.th.jpg) (http://img53.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar2pip0rb.jpg) TARJunkies PIP @ Blows (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1137&forum=DCForumID37&omm=0)

169(http://img51.echo.cx/img51/7190/2ioz818at.th.jpg) (http://img51.echo.cx/my.php?image=2ioz818at.jpg) RaceyGirls Ron ? P/R picture

misc golf

(http://img61.echo.cx/img61/3748/tar7finaletv2139kp.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2139kp.jpg)
(http://img61.echo.cx/img61/6311/tar7finaletv2145ns.th.jpg) (http://img61.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finaletv2145ns.jpg)
(http://img173.echo.cx/img173/6839/jamm15wn.jpg)  Ritz-Carlton’s White Witch (http://www.travelgolf.com/whitewitch1.htm)
PictureCredits
TeamJoisey (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1137&forum=DCForumID37&omm=0)
TARJunkie999@ Blows  (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1137&forum=DCForumID37&omm=0)
TARFlies (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery/tar07_10)
Dreamer@ Jokersupdates  (http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheAmazingRace&Number=1754983&page=1&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&mrd=1115301379)
Lucy 325

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 08, 2005, 11:01:55 PM
Why Miami??  The flights from San Juan to Miami just don't add up so now I'm thinking why are we trying to place everyone on an SJU to Miami flight? I don't know if I am missing something else here but isn't the only thing we have on Miami is that R/K were seen on a flight from San Juan to Miami and they are the only team on the plane? Also, Miami only has a filming permit for the airport so it should just be a connecting point, right? I know a lot of flights from SJU go through Miami but they also fly nonstop to many other cities. Maybe even the final city! Could be that R/K took a flight via Miami and the others got a direct flight or a flight through a different city. What do you think? If only we knew the final city!!!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 08, 2005, 11:32:38 PM
supsandalee , your request .

Morro fort /SanJuan PuertoRico  (http://www.jarogers.com/el-morro.gif)
(http://img70.echo.cx/img70/3199/elmorro9lp.th.gif) (http://img70.echo.cx/my.php?image=elmorro9lp.gif)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 09, 2005, 12:19:47 AM
Nice one ,  credits to Ferretricks as posted at Sucks !! and confimed by about that  ]**]
Exactly!!! 

(http://img142.echo.cx/img142/97/aa20concourse7dd.th.jpg) (http://img142.echo.cx/my.php?image=aa20concourse7dd.jpg)

Photo of American Airlines Check-In at PR International Airport

(http://img104.echo.cx/img104/5984/tar7finale284fi.th.jpg) (http://img104.echo.cx/my.php?image=tar7finale284fi.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 09, 2005, 08:13:09 AM
This is exciting! One day left!

I think that U&J and R&K are doing the same task. Have no idea what they are doing, but I don't think that they are showing two different tasks... we see Kelly with bamboo and is messing with rocks. It's hard to tell if she's banging what looks like a rung of a ladder in, or is trying to 'gore' the rock with the stick. And what the heck is Ron doing in that shot? It looks like he's messing with other large bamboo polls, and then it looks like a long line of parallel bamboo polls in the distance...like a bamboo train track. Then there is U&J with what seems to be gloves... perhaps its something they have to do at the end, requires gloves? Who knows!

Theory about the golfer in the preview... could it just be perhaps a shot from the beginning, where Phil says something like "now the teams are heading to sunny Jamaica, home of world renowned golf courses" (LOL) like a little come to Jamaica golfers! commercial. heh heh . Though I do agree, I like idea of a "dive or drive" detour, but we only see one team member jumping, which seems like a Roadblock to me, and then we see the rafting/doing odd things with rocks and bamboo which seems like a detour.

I can't see the limbo being another roadblock, because that would be te 12th roadblock, and I think they would save one for the mainland and the final part of the finale. So, perhaps it's just a task to get a clue, like someone else mentioned. Hopefully only one person has to do it though... the limbo would be really tough for the men.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 09, 2005, 09:23:21 AM
Quote
Also, Miami only has a filming permit for the airport so it should just be a connecting point, right?


Slowhatch at TWoP found this (http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/041230/filming.shtml) back in January.

Quote
VIACOM INC., Marina del Rey, CA. Destination Miami. Several locations.

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 09, 2005, 09:57:04 AM
Chateau,  Great find.  I had not seen that one.  That's probably the finish line.  I don't think the race producers would strip a team of their possessions (including heavy jackets) in a tropical climate and then send them to a cold climate.

I suspect the finish mat is at a location where you would see Biscayne Bay and downtown Miami in the background.  There are lots of extremely scenic locations from them to choose from.

I'm kind of surprised that we haven't seen any vidcaps of the racers in the finish city like last race (F&K and K&J running in Chicago).
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 09, 2005, 10:31:01 AM
I heard that spoiler long while back, but I understood that the film permit was for the airport only.  I'll see what I can find about that.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 09, 2005, 10:53:17 AM
I forgot about that Chauteau !

Is that the ocean in the background ? I think I see waves , a stony harbor and a round structure ? Did Ucheena have to wade for the clue ? Maybe we can pinpoint this  ]][  ?
(http://img59.echo.cx/img59/286/tar7finaletv2219rp.jpg)

(http://img59.echo.cx/img59/9774/tar7finaletv2231cq.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: orlando spring on May 09, 2005, 11:12:51 AM
Puddin, my theory on the clips with Joyce and Uchenna by the water's edge is that it's the end of the jumping/swimming roadblock. They're wearing the clothes they have on at the bunching where they're all running to the house. Uchenna looks wiped out, much like Amber does in the Romber run clips.

My guess is that Uchenna gets out of the water, then puts his pants back on and they get wet because he's soaking wet, and they run up a hill to a path like the one Rob and Amber are on. Of course, this is pure speculation based on clothing and how tired he looks, while Joyce isn't wet and doesn't look wiped out.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 09, 2005, 11:15:49 AM
Slowhatch at TWoP found this (http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/041230/filming.shtml) back in January.
Quote
VIACOM INC., Marina del Rey, CA. Destination Miami. Several locations.

I didn't think the dates for the VIACOM one jived for the Amazing Race. It was listed as December 30, 2004 and stated that the permits were filed the previous week. The permit I was referring to was this one:

WRP GROUP, Marina del Rey, CA. TV for "WRP Race." Miami Airport. listed here:
http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/041202/filming.shtml
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: supsandalee on May 09, 2005, 11:34:07 AM
Puddin, could these descriptions from Ocho Rios link to some of the pics? Unfortunately, there were no pics of these on the website I found it on.

"The pier at the west of town is the only reminder of Reynolds Jamaica Mines once the economic base of Ocho Rios. The Reynolds mines, plant and office were situated in the hills south of Ocho Rios. The ore was mined in open pits, dried and then transported to the coast by an overhead conveyor belt 6.3 miles long.

Located beside the Reynolds bauxite installation in Ocho Rios is the Ocho Rios fort. The fort was built in the late 17th Century. The Ocho Rios Fort was recently rebuilt by Reynolds Jamaica and contains two of the original guns from Ocho Rios and two of the guns which defended the town of Mammee Bay."
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 09, 2005, 11:55:28 AM
The Reynolds pier, was where the ore boats were filled (dredged very deep, pier very high) with the bauxite from the mine which is carried down from the mountains on the conveyor belts.  This was mentioned by me before .  That is what they are jumping from on the previews, the conveyor belt.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 09, 2005, 05:36:20 PM
Found this at Jokers , this task does have something to do with the raft/craft probably not Bauxite.
(http://img208.echo.cx/img208/7928/tarpip087bj.jpg)<< Bamboo in the background
(http://img208.echo.cx/img208/5106/tarpip077pa.jpg)
(http://img208.echo.cx/img208/4610/tarpip094pc.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 09, 2005, 06:18:03 PM
Those pics, with Uchenna and Joyce running, away from rocks and such, obviously after finishing the roadblock, shows Joyce carrying the Roadblock clue, BUT why is it colored blue, you can see that circle/with slash thru it, which is always RED.  Looks like someone in production is fooling with the colors.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: never0102 on May 09, 2005, 06:48:21 PM
Those pics, with Uchenna and Joyce running, away from rocks and such, obviously after finishing the roadblock, shows Joyce carrying the Roadblock clue, BUT why is it colored blue, you can see that circle/with slash thru it, which is always RED.  Looks like someone in production is fooling with the colors.

No, the route info clues that are blue always have a globe and thats the circle you are seeing.  To me it looks like they are finished with the detour.
Title: AOL Screencaps
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 08:48:43 AM
Credits to Jetrue for the link  :]

300 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/114/12lp2.jpg)
301 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/7937/20rj1.jpg)
302 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/9189/30ds.jpg)
303 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/6601/49je.jpg)
304 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/1685/55fy.jpg)
305 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/2976/67wn.jpg)
306 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/9416/71gp.jpg)Ron: Oh My God
307 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/920/84di.jpg)
308 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/1479/91op.jpg)Ucheena
309 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/8756/108ek.jpg)
310 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/3848/111oy.jpg)
311 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/867/123hn.jpg)
312 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/6916/136fc.jpg)
313 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/9900/145kd.jpg)
314 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/771/150zk.jpg) Rob: Wait Amber are we both suppose to be going down there  ?
315  (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/9245/168zd.jpg) Wheres Ron?
316  (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/2860/175bv.jpg) Amber:I dont know honey
317 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/183/182vu.jpg)
318 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/636/207ce.jpg)
319 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/84/215go.jpg) Rob: gotta go back up here
320 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/5208/227og.jpg)
321 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/601/234jw.jpg) Rob: You gotta go off the platform
322 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/4732/257fe.jpg)Rob : Come on!
323 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/152/263wp.jpg) Ron
duplicates removed
326 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/9237/303fy.jpg)
327 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/2492/317ea.jpg)
328 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/1766/339mz.jpg)
329 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/60/341fr.jpg)
330 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/3415/355km.jpg)
331 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/1466/401yx.jpg)
332 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/4117/419kj.jpg)Rob : where is this place baby ?
333 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/2316/431bj.jpg)
334 (http://img211.echo.cx/img211/2601/447mp.jpg)

thats it Video Preview: Jump To It! (http://tv.channel.aol.com/styles/realitytv.adp?hid=PA37765%7c+%7c2%7c1&zip=18610&csexp=1115732189)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 10, 2005, 08:56:38 AM
Bet that is the bauxite mine conveyor that takes that ore right out to the ships, as I have said, finally I decent pic to see how far that is out in the water.  Yeah!
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: Lucy325 on May 10, 2005, 09:06:05 AM
who is that in black shirt, down below uchenna, already on the platform? kelly, joyce or just maybe a production helper
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 09:23:45 AM
Its hard to say whos on on the structure with Ron in black , it maybe Kelly and I see a dude , helper  whatever ? Doesnt matter Rob tells Amber that she has to do the platform so my guess is yeah this is a roadblock .
Now wonder why amber is tired after she jumps . Rob is sorta lost and has her running all over the place trying to find out how to get up to the platform   {l{ . I assume that Ron is ahead because Rob is wondering where he is .
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Rob on May 10, 2005, 09:45:05 AM
Just what I wanted to see, Uchena in his skivies! LOL GROOOOSSSS!!

Rob
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 09:49:51 AM
Be quiet Rob or I'll blow it up  /]* to late the Devil made me do it .
(http://img218.echo.cx/img218/8295/us8eo.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Lucy325 on May 10, 2005, 09:53:46 AM
It was the first thing I noticed, was Uchenna underwear(?) didnt want to be the first to mention it :)*

And I thought it might be a boring day..... ]#*
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 10:22:05 AM
 :)*

Ok for what its worth Rob is carrying Ambers sneakers  I see she has some sort of black shoes on as does Ron & Ucheena
(http://img218.echo.cx/img218/1613/507dw.jpg)
(http://img218.echo.cx/img218/4030/ron1nc.jpg) ron
(http://img218.echo.cx/img218/8990/ucheena1dx.jpg) ucheena
(http://img218.echo.cx/img218/1199/nk3yv.jpg)??
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Lucy325 on May 10, 2005, 10:30:34 AM
Those are called beach shoes, strong rubber bottom, mesh sides, used when your in ocean swimming or walking around, lots of shells and coral could really cut up your feet.  When I am at the beach, I never go in water without them.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2005, 12:32:43 PM
Puddin, Are we really sure that this thing is at Ocho Rios? Because if so, then the the time of the shot (Ron) is late in the day when the sun is over in the west (azimuth between 200 and 230 degrees).
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 12:39:16 PM
Chateau , I will look for more vidcaps of Ocho Rio  |(

(http://img101.echo.cx/img101/3028/rbc5gu.jpg)
(http://img101.echo.cx/img101/2793/rbc25qc.jpg)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 12:58:47 PM
Where do you think this is Chauteau ? I've been to Puerto Rico , Cuba , Haiti?
Some OchoRio shots (http://www.pbase.com/pike47/jamaica)
(http://img135.echo.cx/img135/4387/ocho10cw.th.jpg) (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=ocho10cw.jpg)

(http://img101.echo.cx/img101/9045/shipatrockyptlarge0hu.jpg)

Rocky Point port (http://www.alcoa.com/locations/jamaica_clarendon/en/about/sustainability_report_2003/case_quality_tonnes.asp)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 01:14:16 PM
(http://img137.echo.cx/img137/6224/gypsumpier0su.jpg)


JGQ‘s Gypsum Pier  (http://www.caribcement.com/products/pierfacilities.asp)
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Lucy325 on May 10, 2005, 01:23:16 PM
Note that the one in the preview vidcap, that goes way way out in the ocean, does not have any perpendicular (sp) railings or walkways at the end.  Plus the vidcap one has that two or three story, control tower that is white.  It would also match the buildings that we see on land, in those earlier vidcaps, when they are all running toward that building.  You can also same type of builing from the catwalk/converyor shot that looks toward the island.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2005, 01:46:29 PM
Ijust scaned the entire coastline of Jamaica (http://imageatlas.globexplorer.com/ImageAtlas/view.do?group=ImageAtlas&lat=39.5276&lon=-97.142&zoom_level=1) and could not fiind it.

I'm starting to think it's in PR.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Pedaler on May 10, 2005, 01:56:04 PM
Quote
Puddin, Are we really sure that this thing is at Ocho Rios? Because if so, then the the time of the shot (Ron) is late in the day when the sun is over in the west (azimuth between 200 and 230 degrees).


What's wrong with the jump being late in the day?  Ocho Rios is a pretty good distance away from both the airports in Jamaica (Montego Bay and Kingston).  They could have flown into one of those two cities, done the detour, and then went on to Ocho Rios and the roadblock.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 02:06:49 PM
I cant find a thing in P/R  |(

Ive googled platforms , piers , shipyards , cruises , ore , Bauxite , powerplants, water systems bananas , sugar , rum ( something I could use right now ) conveyer belts ...Alcoa , aluminum , minerals, trestles ...
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Chateau d If on May 10, 2005, 02:25:21 PM
I found something possible in the Bahia de Tallaoa in the city of Ponce (http://imageatlas.globexplorer.com/ImageAtlas/view.do?group=ImageAtlas&lat=39.5276&lon=-97.142&zoom_level=1) in Puerto Rico.

Adjust the pointing to:
lat = 17.99
lon = -66.713

And zoom in close.

Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Pedaler on May 10, 2005, 03:07:53 PM
Chateau,  If you're right, you should retire.

I scanned the coast and saw what I thought were jetties for oil tankers.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: gingerman28 on May 10, 2005, 03:33:27 PM
The curious thing about all this is the time frame.  It certainly looks like the three teams are bunched up and are running toward the building which looks like it is behind the pier or whatever.  Uchenna and Joyce are in the same clothes we see them in later in Puerto Rico Airport. She is wearing the same white sleeveless shirt that she is wearing running with the other teams and after Uchenna emerges from the water onto the rocks. The teams may be able to jump off without killing themselves but that looks like a mightly long swim to shore afterwards.  But usually we only see teams bunching up at the beginning of the day, but as Chateau points out this looks like it is late in the day.

Sad to say the GMan has to sign off now.  The Chicago Symphony unkindly scheduled their season ending concert at the Kenndey Center for tonight and the the other half of this household says no way will she miss the Mozart Piano Concerto and Mahler's Ninth Symphony.  So its off for some high-brow culture and the old VCR better work tonight! Sould be a great show and it will be interesting to see how right or wrong all our deductions will be.  Enjoy.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 10, 2005, 03:46:34 PM
Have fun Gman ..dont forget to me at the Airport around midnight so that we can take off to you know where with our winnings  ;)  ]*[
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: rmax on May 10, 2005, 05:24:44 PM
Quote
Mozart Piano Concerto and Mahler's Ninth Symphony.
I'm green with envy, gman!  Enjoy all that glorious music, The Amazing Race will be fun to watch on tape, even if you know the outcome.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Pedaler on May 11, 2005, 12:37:31 PM
Quote
Ijust scaned the entire coastline of Jamaica and could not fiind it.

I'm starting to think it's in PR.

Congratulations, Chateau.  You were the only detective I read on the web that thought this.  Your final guess was on the wrong coast, but still a great effort nonetheless.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Chateau d If on May 11, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
Thanks Pedaler.

Here it is (http://imageatlas.globexplorer.com/ImageAtlas/view.do?group=ImageAtlas&lat=39.5276&lon=-97.142&zoom_level=1
).

Adjust pointing to
Lat = 18.446
Lon = -67.16

And zoom in.

I missed it before because the site’s watermark covered it at the “city-level” resolution I was using to scan with.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: puddin on May 11, 2005, 02:48:42 PM
 /#} Nice going Chateau !! lol, I searched P/R sugar mines & mills and came up with zip /zero , but learned alot from the pros and cant wait for TAR 8  |#'
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Pedaler on May 12, 2005, 09:20:42 AM
Quote
Adjust pointing to
Lat = 18.446
Lon = -67.16

And zoom in.

I missed it before because the site’s watermark covered it at the “city-level” resolution I was using to scan with.

Chateau, You're f'ing incredible.
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: Chateau d If on May 12, 2005, 04:53:41 PM
f'ing watermark.  I could have retired!

Thanks Puddin & Pedaler. 
Title: Re: Finale Vidcaps updated with AOL " Jump" preview
Post by: about that on May 14, 2005, 06:15:05 PM
Good job everyone.
I just learned about the sugar mill in Aguadilla. Never heard of it before, even though I went to college nearby. Guess I was too busy studying. ;)
Now I have another place to visit when I go back home on vacation.  (*(
Anyhoo, there is an airport in Aguadilla. I wonder why the producers made the teams go back to San Juan...