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Title: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2005, 10:57:47 PM
I brought these over from Tarflies (http://www.tarflies.com/gallery/tar07_09/tar07_09_290)   ]**]

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a few more from teamjoisey @ Blows/ realitytvworld  (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1121.shtml)   ]**]

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Phil: On the next episode of The Amazing Race...

Uchenna helps Meredith and Gretchen with a difficult detour.

Uchenna: Meredith and Gretchen are good people, man. I hate to see them break their backs like this.

Phil: And the Roadblock drives teams crazy.

Rawb: It's haaad! I'm sorry.

Meredith: Arrgh!
Gretchen: Augh!
Ron: Awwwr!

It's like teaching women how to drive.


Joyce: I can't understand what the hell you're sayin'!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on April 27, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
Next week should be very interesting!  Looks like they all have trouble with the bus....interesting that Rob is doing hte roadblock again...that means Amber would have to do all the rest of the roadblocks.

Question I have is  . . . . . who will yeild and get yeilded or do the teams just do badly at the roadblocks
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on April 27, 2005, 09:28:17 AM
Okay I have another question....is this going to be the first thing they do?  U/J and M/G both are seen in the dark...but I think it is early morning rather then late at night.  Both R/A and R/K look like the day time.  Also I think Rob gets frustrated with the task...is he going to quit again?  He is seen walking off not happy and Amber looks concerned
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: dameche on April 27, 2005, 09:37:14 AM
Okay I am going to take a stab at this......... /]*

In the roadblock, it seems to me that R/A are in the lead with R/K in second. If you look at the vidcaps above. #8, 9 & 10 are of R/A in daylight. #7, 12 &17 are with R/K right before sunset (if you see pic #12 you can see the sun setting in one of the bus windows.) In #11, 14, 18, 19 & 21, it seems to me U/J & M/G are also there right before the sun-setting. But have a lot of trouble doing the RB that may take them into the night. It looks to me in the background they have the stadium lights on for them to see.  *(^

Due to bunching. R/A catch up and manages to yield U/J therefore I can hear Amber saying "The Devil made me do it". Well thats my opinion and it may change.

Whatcha think?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 10:11:34 AM
Okay I am going to take a stab at this......... /]*

In the roadblock, it seems to me that R/A are in the lead with R/K in second. If you look at the vidcaps above. #8, 9 & 10 are of R/A in daylight. #7, 12 &17 are with R/K right before sunset (if you see pic #12 you can see the sun setting in one of the bus windows.) In #11, 14, 18, 19 & 21, it seems to me U/J & M/G are also there right before the sun-setting. But have a lot of trouble doing the RB that may take them into the night. It looks to me in the background they have the stadium lights on for them to see.  *(^

Due to bunching. R/A catch up and manages to yield U/J therefore I can hear Amber saying "The Devil made me do it". Well thats my opinion and it may change.

Whatcha think?

you sure can dream, so I won't hold that against you  |}  I'd rather have Rob and Amber get yielded but of course we do have that picture of U/J
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 27, 2005, 10:17:09 AM
Welcome to Londontown!! (Oh where, oh where has ApprenticeFan gone? Melbourne?)

Looks like teams arrived around noontime at pit stop in Istanbul (sun in their faces from the South); which means that teams will be leaving in the early morning again (Hope Ron and Kelly enjoy their suite in the Four Seasons but remember to set their alarms!- or will they be having too much fun to sleep?)

Several flight possibliites from Istanbul to London: KLM LV 5:55AM, AR 10:50AM; LH LV 5:45AM AR 10:15AM; BA LV 8:55AM AR 11:05AM; or Turkish Airlives LV 8:30AM AR 10:30AM

Sunrise in mid-December is at 7:57AM and Sunset is at 3:51PM (We're far north and it is Winter: Av High 46, AV Low 34)

So if the team are arriving in mid-morning they probably are doing the ROADBLOCK at the end of the day since we see the sun setting and stadium lights being turned on. Task seems to be to perform a standard bus driver's licensing test. (Note bobby in yellow jacket behind one bus). Team members: Rob, Kelly, Meredith and Joyce, must drive big, red double-decker bus (on the way out by the way being replaced by other buses) All four seem to have real trouble backing the bus up through the pylons on the parking lot.

It looks from the amount of daylight showing that R/A and R/K are doing the task before U/J and M/G. One of these teams may have been YIELDED. Don't see anyone yielding M/G so it looks like R/A yielded U/J (just a guess at this point in time.)

DETOUR (or at least one part of the Detour) envolves a task of moving a number of blue rowboats from the Serpentine Lake in Hyde Park (central London) up a hill to a parking area.  It looks like they have to move at least four boats from the lake. While we only see M/G doing this task, U/J looks like they have completed stacking their four boats (nos: 14, 24, 19, and X) and Uchenna is seen helping M/G move their fourth boat (no. 6) up the hill and then leaves them on their own to stack it onto nos. xx, 8, and 24. (And they seem to be having a lot of trouble moving that boat onto their pile.)  R/K and R/A may be off doing the other Detour Task or have not arrived at the Serepentine Lake site yet.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 10:20:34 AM
The Promo is up!! London England .. !
I'll work on the vidcaps some at a time  :<( brb

VO: CBS Tuesday ..Sweethearts Rob And Amber take a big gamble to win the Amazing Race
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Rob Confessional: If we miss the connection we can put ourselves completely out of this race
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VO: In London solving a mystery could lead the teams clueless
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34.(http://img198.echo.cx/img198/5613/161hw.jpg)ETA This one in <<<<
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Gretchen : Where could it be ?
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VO: and what does a famous Beatles record have to do with the race ? < Abbey Road>
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Joyce<taxi>: I don't know any Beatles Albums
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VO: Only Two Heart stopping Episodes to go 

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Uchenna: Its anybodys game at this point
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VO:Its coming down to the wire on an all new  Amazing Race CBs Tuesday
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on April 27, 2005, 10:37:55 AM
take a big gamble.....and rob outside the bus...I bet he quits another task!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 10:40:27 AM
You're way too quick puddin, glad you're with us
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 27, 2005, 11:04:43 AM
This latest sure focuses on Rob and Amber. Looks like they are trying to make connection in Frankfurt Airport on Lufthansa flight from Istanbul connecting on flight to London. They may be pushing this connection tight. Confessional may be before they leave Istanbul at 5:45AM. But they could have waited for Turkish Air flight leaving at 8:30AM which is non-stop and arriving only 15 minutes later than the Lufthansa flights.

The ROADBLOCK is being done on the parking lot behind the MILLENIUM DOME (Greenwich across the Themes River from Tower and Parliament.)  Rob and Amber seem to be there while there is still some daylight. By the time Meredith and Gretchen and Uchenna and Joyce arrive it is growing dark and the lights are coming on by the dome. But there may be a time limit (as it was in China) and the task must be completed before it is completely dark.  Therefore, Rob may be taking the Biggest Gamble of the race and quiting and taking a penalty, but since at least two other teams will not complete the task, they will all start over again in the morning.

Could be, but what a drastic gamble to take at this stage of the race.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 11:04:53 AM
St. Jame's Park
http://www.infolondon.co.uk/attractions.php

I think someone else found it, bleh, I'm way too slow

better pictures:
(http://www.dankarran.com/uk_photos/london43_450.jpg)
(http://www.dankarran.com/uk_photos/london44_450.jpg)

Rob was talking about taking a gamble with a connection with the trains, but quitting a Roadblock that has the same rules as the Key Task in China can be a smart idea
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 27, 2005, 11:16:37 AM
That's not a Ferris Wheel, it is the British Airways LONDON EYE on the banks of the Themes River near the New Tate Gallery.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 11:17:42 AM
take a big gamble.....and rob outside the bus...I bet he quits another task!

guessing that the Roadblock makes teams drive a double-decker bus through a path marked by those -things-, Rob might be outside of the bus because the driver has to bring it back to the beginning because he already messed up/touched one of the markers.

Looks like My Grandparents and Janay's Parents are bunched up at some kind of Train Station too
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 11:18:16 AM
That's not a Ferris Wheel, it is the British Airways LONDON EYE on the banks of the Themes River near the New Tate Gallery.

 |( lmaoooo, I'm so stupid

sorry about that, first source that I came across called it a Ferris Wheel
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 11:24:01 AM
Ha!!  I knew they would go to the London Eye.  Rember when I posted this?

The Eye is located very close to that London Bellringer guy that is in the shows credits.


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WHERE DO WE GO NEXT?

Here! (http://www.buyimage.co.uk/photonet/london11/pages/947.htm)


Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 11:29:34 AM
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Joyce<taxi>: I don't know any Beatles Albums

Maybe they have to find Abbey Road (http://www.abbeyroad.co.uk/virtual_visit/webcam/).
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on April 27, 2005, 11:36:43 AM
Chateau,  You're faster than me.  That web cam is pointed at the same angle as vidcap 45.  You can see the same buildings and obelisk? in the background.  The camera shot in 45 is just taken from a lower angle.

Why are Rob and Amber there at Abbey Road in the day light and Uchenna and Joyce are in a cab at night discussing the Beatles?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 11:44:45 AM
This is the company (http://www.memorylane.co.uk/hire/index.php) that provides the buses for teams to get crazy-mad in.

(http://img171.echo.cx/img171/6909/rm46xj.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 11:53:55 AM
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Why are Rob and Amber there at Abbey Road in the day light and Uchenna and Joyce are in a cab at night discussing the Beatles?

I'm hoping it's because U&J get to leave Istanbul around 11:50 pm whereas R&A have to wait until ??? (I haven't figured it out yet but I will).  I hope U&J get way earlier flights.  "they're stupid"  will bite Rob good.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: kraziladi on April 27, 2005, 11:58:17 AM
As foggy as it is in London and as much as it rolls in and out and the fog pictures, how can ya'll tell when is morning vs. evening?  Where is the picture with the sun setting?  I know the lights come on on the stadium, but that may be becuase of the electronic eyes? Help????
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 01:17:45 PM
The whole promo is like this ..as if its in a big foggy  cloud , it  makes the vidcaps blurred . When Dreamer posts her wonderful Vidcaps I will bring some over  ]**]
btw: you all are doing a fantastic job finding these locations and all .
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 02:07:15 PM
Teams go to

The Sherlock Holmes Museum (http://www.sherlock-holmes.co.uk/home.htm)

221b Baker Street (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=221b+baker+street&ll=51.531494,-0.177810&sll=51.531260,-0.177518&spn=0.115601,0.131938&sspn=0.115601,0.131938&hl=en)


(http://img171.echo.cx/img171/1655/me20in20front20of20sherlock20h.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: rmax on April 27, 2005, 02:41:52 PM
Teams go to

The Sherlock Holmes Museum (http://www.sherlock-holmes.co.uk/home.htm)

221b Baker Street (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=NW8+9AY&ll=51.522705,-0.159934&spn=0.058228,0.102829&hl=en)

I've been there!  It's neat, furnished as though a late 19th century gentleman lived there, with "artifacts" from Holmes' cases.

I've also walked along the Serpentine in Hyde Park, so the next leg will bring some nice memories for me.  I was in London before the London Eye (or Millennium Wheel) was built.

The bell ringer in the promos is standing on Westminster Bridge, with Parliament and Big Ben in the background.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 03:54:27 PM
For the Bus Driving Roadblock:  the Millenium Dome is far from Parliament.  The metro stop for it is North Greenwich Station (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=greenwich&hl=en).

Getting to the Dome (http://www.londonnet.co.uk/ln/guide/about/dome-travel.html)

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The Dome is a no car zone and there are parking restrictions for 2 miles around.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 04:14:12 PM
I was in rush this morning..just noticed that I didn't add this one  |(

#34 (http://img198.echo.cx/img198/5613/161hw.jpg)

Romber playing Shelock Holmes ..I see the magnifying glass / hat and a briefcase perhaps ?
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Misc ~
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Abbey Road lightened ~  Ucheena & Joyce right?
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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 04:15:15 PM
GMan
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Several flight possibliites from Istanbul to London: KLM LV 5:55AM, AR 10:50AM; LH LV 5:45AM AR 10:15AM; BA LV 8:55AM AR 11:05AM; or Turkish Airlives LV 8:30AM AR 10:30AM

For figuring out the flights I remembered that we have not seen the Whirling Dervishes yet.  Maybe there is a minor task that involves doing that in Istanbul before the teams move on to London.  That would open up a lot more flight considerations.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: never0102 on April 27, 2005, 04:37:34 PM
Rob and Amber's big risk is going for the connecting early flight and beucase of there great luck they make it and are put ahead of the other teams.  Rob and Amber being ahead i think would force the yield on Uchenna and Joyce.  Then after struggleing through the deatour UJ catch up help and then pass MG during the detour.   Teams arrive to the roadblock in the order of RA, RK, UJ, MG and as to who finishes first and last your guesses are as good as mine
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 27, 2005, 05:05:17 PM
Good Vidcaps, everyone. Wish I could see them on "live" television since you can pick up much more with seeing the actual action. 

Questions:

Pix #35 - What are Rob and Amber carrying? It looks like some kind of dispatch case that Rob is holding before him. Maybe this is the other half of the Detour (moving the boats is the other half).

Pix #46 - Can anyone make out the sticker on the window (taxi) behind Uchenna? They look sleepy and at first I thought that it might be that they are on the way back after screwing up on the bus test, but the camera is on the right front so it is a left hand drive and therefore probably early in the morning in Istanbul and the way to the airport.

A lot of tease about Rob and Amber making the connection (either air port or trains) but we see that they get to take the bus test along with the others so no big deal.

Another tease about whether Rob pulls another "I quit" on the ROADBLOCK or is just outside the bus waiting for a professional driver to move it back so he can start over again.

It looks like Uchenna and Joyce, Meredith and Gretchen and Ron and Kelly made it up on the London Eye (where are Rob and Amber) Producers must have had real pull here since there usually is awaiting to get on or you have to reserve time ahead.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 05:12:58 PM
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Pix #46 - Can anyone make out the sticker on the window (taxi) behind Uchenna? They look sleepy and at first I thought that it might be that they are on the way back after screwing up on the bus test, but the camera is on the right front so it is a left hand drive and therefore probably early in the morning in Istanbul and the way to the airport.
If you could see it Gman this is where < I watched her lips > Joyce says " I don't know any Beatle Albums " ( embrassed like ) and Ucheena has his eyes closed and hand up to his head and doesn't budge .
(http://img241.echo.cx/img241/4434/albums3bp.jpg)
Romber are playing Sherlock Holmes , lol
(http://img241.echo.cx/img241/4982/sh8wx.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 05:24:55 PM
if memory serves me right it takes a whole thirty minutes to make a full circle on the London Eye

I also think that they're going to break the pattern now (landmark/famous area --> detour/roadblock --> landmark/famous area --> detour/roadblock --> pitstop) to add in that Mystery thing with Sherlock Holmes and the London eye... I have no idea how going to Abbey Road fits in here.

The shot that shows Merideth and Gretchen and Uchenna and Joyce in some kind of terminal must be in Istanbul somewhere and I have no time but can anyone figure out if the shot of Uchenna and Joyce in a taxi (dark outside) is in Istanbul or London by looking at where the camera guy is placed?

Uchenna helping Merideth and Gretchen? Maybe they got yielded and decides to help Merideth and Gretchen while they wait because they see them struggling.... very weird indeed
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 05:32:23 PM
(http://img29.echo.cx/img29/9465/thexpress5km.jpg)
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Heathrow Express  (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.p-w-p.co.uk/images/transport/t_hexpress.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.p-w-p.co.uk/transport/t_heathrowexpress.asp&h=322&w=176&sz=15&tbnid=2R0glECM5F8J:&tbnh=113&tbnw=62&start=10&prev=/images%3Fq%3DThe%2BHeathrow%2BExpress%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2005-04,GGLD:en%26sa%3DG)



The Heathrow Express provides a fast, direct link to Heathrow Airport every 15 minutes*.

Trains run in each direction between 05.10 and 23.30 hours, with an average journey time of 15 minutes to Terminals 1, 2 and 3, and Terminal 4 reached in a further eight minutes.

Trains run at 10, 25, 40 and 55 minutes past the hour.
For further timetable information visit www.heathrowexpress.com

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Paddington Station (http://www.jeffooi.com/archives/Paddington_Station.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 05:36:29 PM
yep...
no stops in between but very expensive, I can see Romber wasting their money on this

from sucks:
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Was it the Heathrow Express? The Heathrow Express takes you from Heathrow to Paddington Station in 15 minutes. It's high speed train with no stops in between. It is quicker than taking the Underground into the city though it is relatively more expensive. From Paddinton you can catch the District or Circle lines and get to other trains and parts of London. If I recall the train is white with purple stripes maybe? They are new trains and not the shoddy looking Underground trains.

Otherwise the other way out of Heathrow by Underground is the Picadilly line. I think it takes like 30-60 minutes or so from Heathrow to central London if I recall.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 05:54:56 PM
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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2005, 06:18:20 PM
Nice work, Puddin, on nailing down the Heathrow Express to Paddington.  And I have even ridden it.  It broke down halfway into town and we sat for 2 hours.

I also went on the Eye and, yes, you can get tix in advace for set times.

Here is some speculation:  I bet they have to ride the eye and as it goes up and around they are supposed to find something.  What they are looking for is that Town Crier guy who is over on the bridge across from Big Ben.

From pix of the Millenium Dome I can't see where the bus-driving open space could be.  The dome has the river on three sides and factories on the forth.  But in the screen caps it looks far away so maybe the Roadblock location is on the opposite side of the river.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 27, 2005, 06:23:58 PM
Here is some speculation:  I bet they have to ride the eye and as it goes up and around they are supposed to find something.  What they are looking for is that Town Crier guy who is over on the bridge across from Big Ben.

I completely forgot about that Town Crier, but it would be extremely difficult (I would imagine) to find one specific person when you're that high up. And also, if its part of the Mystery Task with Sherlock, why doesn't U/J and M/G have the things Romber are carrying around
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 09:54:33 PM
I wish I could go to London  /]*

Just looking around ..

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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 27, 2005, 10:04:30 PM
I see Amber also has Sherlock's pipe in her mouth also!  Could this be he other half of the Detour?  The Detour usually entails one physical task (moving the boats) and one less physical but one that takes longer to accomplish (searching for clues?)

The shot of Joyce and Uchenna in the taxi is strange. It is night so if it is London it must be after the Roadblock Bus gig. So are they downcast because they also had to quit the task?  And the camera is shooting from the right front seat which means the driver is on the left which is not right for London. And the shot is not reversed (as many are in the promos) because Uchenna has his wedding ring on his left ring finger.

I wonder where the Abbot Road thing works in.

And what are they trying to spot from the London Eye?  And strange that only one couple are in each gondola. Did producers tie up the entire wheel or is running just for them at a time when it normally is closed as was the case with the waterslide in Dubai. 

And CBS is really loading us down with stuff for this show after many with very little info for us to play with. So we all should have fun over the next six days!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on April 27, 2005, 10:12:11 PM
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Abbey Road lightened ~  Ucheena & Joyce right?

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I was thinking amber there... see the white on the jacket sleeves? Also, I think I see a hint of a ponytail. The person to her left, I think is perhaps their Fern. See he seems to have an umbrella? I can't see any of the team members with an umbrella. I think Rob is in front and blocked by those two... in a couple spots I think I see some extra legs.

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And what are they trying to spot from the London Eye?  And strange that only one couple are in each gondola. Did producers tie up the entire wheel or is running just for them at a time when it normally is closed as was the case with the waterslide in Dubai.
I wonder if they are looking for the red bus. Look at shot #42... red double decker bus in close up from the eye.

Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Traegen on April 27, 2005, 10:13:31 PM
December isn't high season for Tourists in Europe and if this was shot on a weekday (although I've heard it was probably a sunday) it is likely that the Eye wasn't that busy. However I wouldn't doubt it if TPTB did make arrangements for a certain amount of pods.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2005, 11:17:15 PM
Welcome jettrue  ]**] ..jump right in please !! I do see some white on the jacket.. let me see if I can slow it down again .  [^/
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cool site London Underground (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground#Station_identification)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 28, 2005, 10:22:31 AM
I think the date of the leg is Monday Dember 13th.  Here's the timeline.
 
Tuesday, Dec 7th, Teams arrive 9:44 and 9:52 am in Lucknow, Roadblock and Detour, and TBC, 24 hr train leaving at 9:00 pm
Wed, Dec 8, overnight train arrives in Jodhpur, about 11 pm
Thurs, Dec 9, Tower opens at 10:00 am, R & D, late afternoon pitstop
Fri, Dec 10, extended pitstop
Sat, Dec 11, Start Leg 9, teams board at Jodhpur 10:20 am, arrive Delhi about noon, they get flights out of Delhi at 3:35 and 4:45 am next day
Sun, Dec 12, Teams arrive in Istanbul at 6:27 and 8:24 am, they finish the leg same day.
Mon, Dec 13, (if regular pitstop), Start Leg 10, early AM

R&K's boarding pass at Jodhpur had December 11th, 2004 on it.  So that forced the insertion of an extended pitstop in Jodhpur.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 28, 2005, 11:14:29 AM
Hey, I think I finally solved one mystery - and this ep is going to be full of mysteries!

The cab shot of Joyce and Uchenna is at night and they are wearing their heavy jackets. It has been edited into a sequence set in London with Joyce saying "I don't know any Beatles albums."(pix #46).  And we have been assuming that this is in London, but the driver is on the left hand side and the camera is shooting from the righthand side of the front seat.

So I think the answer to this little puzzle is that Uchenna and Joyce have just left the pit stop in Istanbul (which would be around midnight or early the next morning while it is still dark) And in the first clue they get at the pit stop it tells them to fly to London and then locate something to do with a famous Beatles Album (the answer being Abbey Road)  But they will have time during the flight, etc. to talk to people and find out where they are supposed to go when they arrive in London. So they may solve the mystery but still be clueless of what they are supposed to do.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 28, 2005, 12:07:31 PM
You are golden!

Of course someone on the way would be able to help them figure it out.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 28, 2005, 12:15:10 PM
Hey, I think I finally solved one mystery - and this ep is going to be full of mysteries!

The cab shot of Joyce and Uchenna is at night and they are wearing their heavy jackets. It has been edited into a sequence set in London with Joyce saying "I don't know any Beatles albums."(pix #46).  And we have been assuming that this is in London, but the driver is on the left hand side and the camera is shooting from the righthand side of the front seat.

So I think the answer to this little puzzle is that Uchenna and Joyce have just left the pit stop in Istanbul (which would be around midnight or early the next morning while it is still dark) And in the first clue they get at the pit stop it tells them to fly to London and then locate something to do with a famous Beatles Album (the answer being Abbey Road)  But they will have time during the flight, etc. to talk to people and find out where they are supposed to go when they arrive in London. So they may solve the mystery but still be clueless of what they are supposed to do.

great, gman.

And also about the man with the "umbrella," I think its just another guy standing far away and not actually something that the "Fern" is holding
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 28, 2005, 05:48:50 PM
Don't be misled by what the CBess editors are showing you; they love to mix and match to give you the wrong impression of where you are and what is going on.  The shots of Uchenna and Joyce in the taxicab are a good example.  Another good example and has been misleading us are the shots of Rob and Amber.  Some shots of Rob have him in his red Bosox hat; other shots have him in a dark watchcap.  It looks like he starts off with his baseball had on and we have shots of him in some airport heading toward "flight connections" or so the sign says in the background. This I think is where he and Amber are making the big gamble: by taking an earlier flight and counting on making a connection which will get them to London before the others (he learned his lesson in Jodhpur when he joked about getting on an earlier flight which he wasn't aware of and UJ and MG took him up on it and found out that there actually was an earlier flight getting them to Istanbul two hours ahead of RK and RA) If you look up flights on Travelocity or other web sites they will only list the "authorized connecting" flights, but as I found out when travelling around the world for many years there are a lot of flights you can arrange for which are not authorized and if you are late too bad they won't wait for the connection. So perhaps they did find an earlier iffy connection.  And the shot of them entering a doorway is NOT the doorway of a Underground train, I think it looks more like a plane door and they still have their red hats on.

Later we see them in London on the tube (yellow circle line?) and Rob now has his dark knit hat on. Which we see him wearing in all the London shots.

No shots of him on the London Eye. Are Rob and Amber ahead or behind the others? I think that they are ahead since they seem to get to the ROADBLOCK at the Millinenum Dome before the others.

So far it looks like this to me (for now):

Fly to London with the strange clue about the Beatles Album

Locate Abbey Road and clue box

Go to London Eye and sight some marker perhaps on the Globe Theatre which is not far away..

Go to Marker and get DETOUR: (1) Move boats from the Serpentine, or (2) Solve a puzzle from Sherlock Holmes.

Go to some landmark: St. Paul, Big Ben, London Bridge and find a town cryer for the next clue

Go to Millenium Dome for ROADBLOCK CLUE: complete an official bus driver's test.  There now may be a time deadline like one hour after sunset or some such.

Go to Pit Stop: Tower Bridge, The Tower, or wherever we have not yet been.

ELIMINATION for the last place team. The Tower would be the appropriate place to execute the last place team, don't you think?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2005, 07:37:25 PM
You are Amazing Gman  ]*[

Sometime to kill before Survivor comes on , the carpeting looks the same  {l{


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Train  (http://www.airwise.com/airports/europe/STN/)

There is a direct Stansted Express service from Stansted Airport to London Liverpool Street station. Trains run every 15 minutes Monday to Friday between 8:00 and 17:00 and every 30 minutes at other times. The journey time to Liverpool Street is 41 minutes.
The first train leaves the airport at 06:00. Last train leaves the airport at 23:59.


This is it..Stansted airport is were Romber land after leaving Turkey..maybe one of you airline schedule googler's can figure out the time / flight schedules ?
My crappy photo with the dots inserted in the glass doors

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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2005, 10:21:52 PM
(http://img113.echo.cx/img113/9862/607ds.jpg)
(http://img143.echo.cx/img143/5655/13jw1.jpg)a good picture of Heathrow Express (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.themagnificent7.co.uk/images/dublincastle04/tube/1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.themagnificent7.co.uk/dc04pics.html&h=300&w=525&sz=68&tbnid=D9S3OGOzqFkJ:&tbnh=73&tbnw=128&hl=en&start=86&prev=/images%3Fq%3DThe%2BHeathrow%2BExpress%26start%3D80%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2005-04,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 28, 2005, 11:08:27 PM
Ahhhhh, I love playing detective! Its really elementary dear Dr.Watson:

   First we find a picture of a particular carpet. Right? Someone is clever enough to discover that this particular carpet is located in STANSTED AIRPORT outside LONDON, ENGLAND.   Now we dig further and find out that a low-cost German airline named GERMANWINGS flies there from COLOGNE, GERMANY.  Are your still with me doctor?  And where else does Germanwings fly to?  Why Istanbul Turkey!.  But the trick here is to learn that it does not fly out of the large international Anaturk airport (IST)  but from the smaller SABIHA (SAW) airport.  And lo and behold, they have a daily flight out to Sabiha to Cologne Germany leaving at 03:55AM arriving in Cologne at 06:00AM.  AND they have a flight from Cologne, Germany to Stansted Airport (London) leaving at 07:10AM arriving at Stansted at 07:25AM!!

Q. E. D. Now that was really elementary now wasn't it, Dr. Watson?

So it is possible if Rob and Amber leave the pitstop before 2:00AM to arrive in London about three hours ahead of the others! But if they miss their connection in Cologne, they could be hung up for many hours since the next flight from Cologne to Stansted doesn't leave until late afternoon! But since we see them doing all of their tasks in daylight, we know that they did NOT miss their connection.

Here is a picture of the Germanwings plane. Note the yellow and red markings.  I can't find the picture just now (still downloading) but there is a picture of Amber and Rob entering the front door of a plane and I rememer that there were yellow markings behind him. It looks like they are entering the plan from a stairway and not an enclosed jetway which would be typical of a small airport.

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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 12:14:23 AM
OMG GMan this is a blast and you Rock!! I was so happy to see you here this late ..I just knew you were playing detective  ]#*

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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 29, 2005, 01:22:25 AM
Hold on a sec.  I heard that was a "mind the gap" poster in the tube.

Great work Gman.  I'm going to get you a good time est for R&A's check in.

Working working working
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 01:34:37 AM
Work it Chateau d If
Webteasers are finally up ......

Next on THE AMAZING RACE

Tuesday, May 3, 9PM ET/PT

Some take a chance on airline tickets without confirmed seats, while others get seats on a later flight. Will the gamble pay off?

Forced to beg for money, one Racer shares a stranger's lipstick. ewwwwwwwwww

One Team is Yielded. Will this affect their standing?

Teams have trouble with double-decker buses, which they have to drive.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 01:40:35 AM
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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 02:14:06 AM
adding in some Vidcaps from Dreamer @ Jokersupdates  (http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheAmazingRace&Number=1742791&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=&mrd=1114758328)

You can see Joyce driving this bus /red jacket
Is that another team driving the bus through the course on the right?

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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 29, 2005, 03:20:31 AM
Okay, here are my best estimates for the teams' checkin times.  The analysis used is the same method that I used to get the 10:46 am est for seeing Uchenna on the rappel.

U&J 10:54 am
G&M 12:37 pm
R&A 1:26 pm
R&K 2:01 pm

And if R&K got to use the internet all night then they may have been able to find what Gman found too!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: rmax on April 29, 2005, 10:35:53 AM
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And if R&K got to use the internet all night then they may have been able to find what Gman found too!
Only if they were as smart as gman...which they aren't!

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Forced to beg for money, one Racer shares a stranger's lipstick.
Uh, Ron? (I hate these 50/50 questions.)  [^/  {l{
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 29, 2005, 10:37:53 AM
Good work, CdI, I was going to ask that this morning.  Time looks about right for Rob and Amber with sunset at 4:26PM and the shadows for R/A and G/M look almost the same. So if they check in at the pit stop at 1:26PM, then they would be leaving at 1:26AM. Plenty of time to go to a hotel desk or travel agent or airport and discover that Germanwings flies from the smaller airport and not the big international airport at Ataturk but SABIHA.  They also will find out about the Germanwings flight leaving at 3:55AM for Cologne, but it is a gamble since they cannot confirm seats on the 7:10AM flight from Cologne to STANSTED airport. But they decide to make the gamble: if they can't get seats on that flight they are in deep doo doo and probably would not reach London until late that afternoon.

But they do get on the 7:10AM flight from Cologne to London and arrive at 7:25AM (one hour change). Then they can take the train right into central London and go off and search for the right Abbey Road zebra crossing.

And by the way Ron and Kelly may get on the internet at the Four Seasons Hotel but until they get the next clue at the pits stop clue box they won't know that they are headed for London so would not discover the Germanwings flight.

This matches the CBees teaser: Some take a chance on unconfirmed seats on a connecting flight and other take a later flight - most likely the 8:30AM Turkish Airlines flight arriving non-stop in London at 10:30AM or the Lufthansa flight leaving at 5:45AM connecting through Frankfurt and arriving in London at 10:15AM.  In any case, a good three hours behind Rob and Amber.

Back to Abbey Road and a small problem: there are 23 streets in London named Abbey Road! The one used for the Beatles' Album is located in Ealing where there studio is a good 18 miles from central London. But the picuture from the Vidcap shows the sign "Abbey Road, 8NW, Westminster"  that is not far from St. John's Wood underground station.

http://www.londontown.com/LondonStreets/abbey_road_e52.html

That's a map showing Abbey Road, 8NW Westminster.

So far, so good but still a far distance to go.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 10:52:56 AM
 LOL  Richard you are silly  ((^  I have some thinking to do ..if Romber are the next to be eliminated how do they screw up so badly if they are perhaps hours ahead of the other teams? From what i've seen those underground rails can be confusing but Romber always find away and besides we know Rob always figures out a way to get folks to help him ..especially in London ! Just looking at those vidcaps they stick out like a sore thumb , I cant beleive we didnt get London spoilers/spottings of all places ! Originally I thought that Romber may be next but now I don't know ? What if that picture of who we think maybe Ron in P/R airport Raceygirl picture is Ron but could it be that Ron is on his way back to the states to greet the last three teams at the pistop? Odd that Kelly is no where to be seen ..more questions no answers .. ah well back to waiting for some more promo clues . I still think the title belongs to Rob and Rob yields someone ..not that it matters much but this is a tight race and a matter of half an hour or whatever can be really important in this race . My gut feeling , which is usually wrong , is screaming R&K for the next elimination .
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 29, 2005, 11:21:29 AM
Gman, the map you posted does have the Beatles Abbey Road location.  According to this site (http://www.spookshows.com/beatles/cross/crossing.htm) it was at:

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The Abbey Road Crosswalk
Intersection of Grove End Road and Abbey Road
Abbey Road Studios is the building in the center of this photo.

which shows up on your link in NW8 Westminster.  The screen caps seem to have the same street furniture in them as we see in the Abby Road web cam and the pix in the above link.

Also, why is this?
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but it is a gamble since they cannot confirm seats on the 7:10AM flight from Cologne to STANSTED airport.
I mean, why can't seats be confirmed?  Since it is in the CBS clue I want to better understand the rules of confirmed seats.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 29, 2005, 11:27:22 AM
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how do they screw up so badly if they are perhaps hours ahead of the other teams?

I just guessing that they had to go back from the mat and properly complete the task on Baker street.

Won't that be fun to watch!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: rmax on April 29, 2005, 11:31:01 AM
Actually, the London underground is pretty easy to figure out. The lines are color-coded, so all you need is a map to figure out which line/stop goes to where you want to go (hey, if *I* figured it out, it has to be easy!)

I didn't realize there are that many Abbey Roads, but I "think" there's one in London that passes for the one on the Beatles album.  There's also a bus line for Abbey Road (I remember seeing Abbey Road on the bus front placard), so maybe that's the one they look for?

I fear that if the vids showing M/G and U/J doing the RB late in the day mean they are in 3d and 4th place, one of those teams is eliminated.  And if the betting spoiler holds true, then...goodbye Meredith and Gretchen, sniff.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: cinni on April 29, 2005, 12:00:57 PM
ok, it's friday and well, i'm tired. long week.

what if rob and amber miss their connections? they end up falling way behind and end up in london well after the other teams, maybe even the next day? they still do all the tasks hoping against hope that the other teams had problems. would they still let them run even that far behind? are there any vidcaps of them with another team? i know that abbey road one maybe. just thinking out loud on my keyboard.

forgot to add, wow! awesome detective work. so much to ponder before tuesday.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 29, 2005, 12:15:16 PM
I'm not a betting man, but pounds to doughnuts, Rob and Amber make the connection and arrive in Stansted at 7:25AM (no customs as they are still in an European Union country!) so it is possible they make the 8:00AM or 8:15AM train to LIVERPOOL STATION. Here they can get on the YELLOW CIRCLE underground line to BAKER STREET connecting with the JUBILEE (Brown) line and one stop north they arrive at St. John's Woods.  Make their way to the clue box at the corner of Abbey Road and Grove End Road.

Underground or walk to Baker Street, 221B Sherlock Holmes Museum.

After completing task, Underground Jubilee Line to Waterloo Station for the London Eye.

Then continue on Jubilee Line to Canary Wharf across the river from the Millenium Dome

So if they know where they are going, it is going to be easy to get around London, and the Underground is a lot faster than taxies.  But I worry about Meredity and Gretchen. Can they read the map?  Picture of them looking lost in underground station may be foretelling their troubles in Londontown.

Map:

http://www.oxfordtube.com/assets/london/underground_map.jpg



Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on April 29, 2005, 01:35:08 PM
I don't know where to post this.  This is from Administrator Madbananrush at sucks:

"The next episode is an elimination episode. Rob and Ambah will be on the early show on Wednesday, May 4th."
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on April 29, 2005, 01:45:43 PM
In London on December 13th the sun never gets more than 16 degrees above the horizon. 

Sunrise  at 7:58 am, sunset at 3:51 pm.  Only 7 hours 53 min of daylight. 

The darkish shots with M&G at the bus Roadblock look like about 4:10 pm
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: cinni on April 29, 2005, 02:44:47 PM
I don't know where to post this.  This is from Administrator Madbananrush at sucks:

"The next episode is an elimination episode. Rob and Ambah will be on the early show on Wednesday, May 4th."
holy cannollis! (or however you spell that!)

note to self, drop rob/amber from mw team...
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 02:48:02 PM
Yep its time cinni   ]][ .. i'm  so lucky to have M&G & U&J on my team   =]/ .. ]#*
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: coksy on April 29, 2005, 03:12:56 PM
There is one thing that bugs me with that spoiler about MG being in the top 3 and Romber being eliminated next.

the vidcaps lead us to believe that Romber try to take a different flight to London that could either give them a few hours lead or put them a few hours behind. Since they are shown ding stuff in London in daylight, this means that either they made the earlier flight or are racing the next day. If it were the next day I'm sure the producers would have told them to stop by now since all three teams seem to make it in one day. if it's earlier in the day, then they must have made a BIG mistake to lose their lead and end up last...

I know some think that Rob quits the bus task, but I really doubt it. If they do have a few hours lead, why quit a task that can eventually be mastered?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 29, 2005, 04:35:54 PM
I don't know where to post this.  This is from Administrator Madbananrush at sucks:

"The next episode is an elimination episode. Rob and Ambah will be on the early show on Wednesday, May 4th."

If this is true it means that Rob really did blow it this time.  He arrives in London with a tremendous lead of three hours or so, rips through the Detour and gets to the Roadblock first. Yields his closest competion Uchenna and Joyce.  Then quits the task thinking there is a time limit that will save him.  Hard to believe.  Put depend on Puddin to get the correct info about TES for May 4th. First I have ever heard a particular team mentioned as being on TES, so I am very doubtful that this is real stuff. Help us out, Puddin, ole buddy!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 04:43:46 PM
Not a spoiler since MBR has already posted this . Someone that I trust 100% confirmed that the  eliminated team Will be on The Early Show this Wendsday and someone is eliminated and the final 2 hour show on the 10th will be three teams .
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 29, 2005, 04:48:20 PM
Yes, we agree. The eliminated team will be on TES on May 4th. But WHO?  Rob and Amber or Meredith and Gretchen?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2005, 05:00:05 PM
Oh it won't be  M&G so it would have to be one of the other teams  R&K or R&A , are U&J even a choice   ]][  ?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 29, 2005, 08:38:49 PM
isn't is possible that the "gamble" happens AFTER the Roadblock where they are shown in what seems like daylight?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2005, 12:13:20 PM
Here are some new observations:

Had a chance to see the ep 11 promo in action and have observed the following (you can catch a lot more when the scenes are in motion rather than just still vidcaps (as good as they are.)"

Pix 23 - Rob is standing by the bus, and the bus is BACKING UP. Is it being driven by another racer or is an official backing it up so Rob can try again?

Between Pix 30 and 31 - There is a missing pix of Rob and Amber running on the street, Amber is holding a Blue Route Info envelope. To their right (screen left) there is a particular stone fence with stubby square posts and a park behind. Now compare this with:

Pix 44 - Sign saying ABBEY ROAD, 8NW, The City of Westminster. The sign is on the same wall that we see Rob and Amber running by. Therefore, Rob and Amber have reached the first clue box at Abbey Road.

Pix 45 - Pair running by same park, and across zebra crossing (used in the cover of the Beatles' Album) BUT although one person who looks female has a red jacket on with white armpits, she is wearing blue jeans. The person running with her has a midlength brown suede jacket on and blue jeans.  None of the team racers is wearing blue jeans or has a midlength brown suede jacket. (Joyce has a red jacket but she has no hair!, which the person in pix 45 has! Amber has a red and white jacket but is wearing dark blue sweats with white stripes. Neither Kelly nor Gretchen has a red jacket) Conclusion: this is setup by production people to introduce scene which is so often the case. Shot has no meaning except to establish location so disregard.

Pix 29 - Upon further review, this is not a shot of Rob and Amber either entering a subway car or a airplane. Rather it is a shot of them at some kind of ticket counter. Amber is holding a ticket stub (boarding pass part of a ticket??) which Rob snatches out of her hand as she turns back to the counter. Behind the counter are two people with blue uniform smocks on, one is shuffling through a stack of papers which she holds in her hand.  Must have something to do perhaps in Cologne about getting on a connecting flight or in Istanbul when they are booking space. There is a Red and Yellow stripe to Rob's right which are the colors of Germanwings Airlines.

Pix 42 - This may be high angle shot from the London Eye. Camera seems to zoom in on a red, double-decker bus standing on a corner. Maybe there is a TAR marking on it (can't see shot too well) but this could be what they are looking for from the London Eye (find a distinctive London landmark with our flag, etc. This is typical when a task is being introduced by Phil) The location seems to be behind the wheel, not across the Themes river where they are looking. Could be parked along the Bankside.  Here they may find clue telling them to go to the Millenium Dome and find the next clue. The Roadblock Bus Driver's test.

Pix 51 and 55. Behind Meredith and Gretchen are Uchenna and Joyce standing on the underground station platform.  They all seem to be looking to their right as a train leaves. So at least we know that M/G and U/J arrived together. Did they just miss the train in Heathrow and know that they will have another delay getting into the city? Joyce is reading some kind of instructions.

So it looks like we have on this rainy Saturday morning the following:

Rob and Amber pulling a chancey move to get ahead of the others by taking an early flight on Germanwings through Cologne to London.

Rob and Amber make it to the Abbey Road 8NW location to find the first clue.

Detour: Go to Baker Street Sherlock Holmes Museum and SLEUTH for clues to solve a mystery (of where to go next?)Rob and Amber become Sherlock Holmes for the task.

OR, go to the Serpentine and STACK. Move four rental rowboats up from the Serpentine and stack them along a path in Hyde Park. Uchenna and Joyce and Meredith and Gretchen are the stackers.

Where oh where have Ron and Kelly gone? But they must have done one of these tasks to get to the London Eye.

Clue perhaps tells them to go to the London Eye to spot their next clue.Up on the Eye, Gretchen and Meredith; Uchenna and Joyce; and Ron and Kelly all have seperate, private gondolas to ride up and around (est. time 30 minutes the producers must have reserved space or are using it at a time when it is normally closed as was the case with the water slide in Dubai) and must spot a red, London double-decker bus with the TAR flag to get the next clue.

Where oh where are Rob and Amber?  But they must have been to the London Eye to get the next clue.

Clue sends them to the vacinity of the MILLENIUM DOME to do the ROADBLOCK. Here they first find the YIELD. Rob and Amber are in the lead and they chose to Yield, Uchenna and Joyce.

Doing the Roadblock is difficult: driving and backing huge London double-decker buses along the same course used to test professional London bus drivers. Rob, Kelly, Joyce, and Meredith all are having trouble.

Question does Rob quit or is this just him waiting to try, try again to back the bus without hitting one of those pesky, little red and white cones.

Then off the the pit stop and the Eighth and Final elimination.
Who goes home disappointed tonight? What could be more appropriate at this time in the race but to go to the Tower (which is across the Themes from the Millenium Dome) a place well known in British History as a place for Executions!

Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on April 30, 2005, 12:16:26 PM
Im pretty sure the gamble is the plane flight with the connection because on the web teasers it says,

Some take a chance on a flight with unconfirmed seats.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2005, 07:39:59 PM
Good EYE Gman   }^! ~
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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2005, 10:31:52 PM
I would kill for a new promo  ]][

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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on April 30, 2005, 10:33:49 PM
haha i would kill for a new promo too puddin, lol i think that is amber running cause you can kind of see her hair /]*
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2005, 11:02:29 PM
 {l{ but..
whos running behind her ? Rob wears Khaki pants right? The person behind her is wearing jeans or dark pants ?
and to me the person in the jacket is wearing a hat ? black?
they really both look like they are wearing jeans to me so what Gman posted , I have to agree .

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Pix 45 - Pair running by same park, and across zebra crossing (used in the cover of the Beatles' Album) BUT although one person who looks female has a red jacket on with white armpits, she is wearing blue jeans. The person running with her has a midlength brown suede jacket on and blue jeans.  None of the team racers is wearing blue jeans or has a midlength brown suede jacket. (Joyce has a red jacket but she has no hair!, which the person in pix 45 has! Amber has a red and white jacket but is wearing dark blue sweats with white stripes. Neither Kelly nor Gretchen has a red jacket) Conclusion: this is setup by production people to introduce scene which is so often the case. Shot has no meaning except to establish location so disregard.
 
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on April 30, 2005, 11:03:43 PM
I think the two people shown here are production people running at Abbey Road during set-the-scene bit by Phil. In live video you can see both people are wearing blue jeans.  None of the TAR racers are wearing blue jeans.  Red jacket is different from one worn by Amber and Amber has on dark blue sweats with white stripe down side.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2005, 11:11:23 PM
Maybe just maybe it is Amber but what does this prove ?  /]*( they still look like jeans to me )
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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: jennajokie on May 01, 2005, 10:21:57 AM
I'm very new to this, but I've been a huge fan of your messages for awhile now.

I have no proof to back this up just a gut feeling that Romber will yield R/K not U/J.  Rob doesn't think anyone is as smart as he is, but I believe he thinks R/K are a greater threat than U/J.  If R/K choose the detective detour it may take them a long time.  Ron may be able to read and follow a map but they are not established "detectives".  They have made a lot of mistakes looking for TAR clues. Just my two cents. [^/
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: FreddynKendrafan on May 01, 2005, 10:28:03 AM
Hey cool thanks for your opinion! lol! I hope your wrong (no offense) lol because I like Ron and Kelly!! 

I think that Ron and Kelly will yield Romber, or Meredith and Gretchen will yield Romber, but all in all I think Romber will be yielded..
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: thechosenone on May 01, 2005, 10:38:24 AM
I don't think romber get's yeilded because if they make the connection flight ( which they obviously do because they are seen in london looking really happy doing the sherlock holmes thing ) they would be 2-3 hours ahead so they probably yeild someone first. It depends on where the yeild is, the first one was before the detour right, the second one was before the road block, so maybe the third one is before the detour again.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2005, 10:42:05 AM
Good mornin' Jenna and Okie: your two cents is always welcome. And you too, Freddy and Kendra Fan (won't give up will you) Anyway, things are moving along and not much has changed promo vidcap wise. Still we know somebody will Yield someone else, but whom? Still think the Yield will be by either R/A or R/K who seem to be at the Bus Driver's Test site first.

Been looking again at the shots of Amber and Rob at what appears now to be a ticket or airline counter. Rob really looks dejected as he takes his ticket stub back from Amber.  Have they missed their connecting flight after all? Or are they just being told in Istanbul that they are taking a chance with Germanwings since they can't be guaranteed seats on the connecting flight to London from Cologne.  I think that's it.  Still the shot now established in Stansted Airport (thanks to Puddin) shows both Amber and Rob not moving very fast toward the exit nor do they look very happy if they think that they are in the lead.  Very puzzling, or are they just tired from being up all night?

If Rob and Amber are executed Tuesday (at the Tower; which certainly would be appropriate) they will have really blown a huge lead. This could happen if they complete the Baker Street Sherlock Holmes task and are to take the underground to the London Eye where they are to spot a well-known London landmark where the next clue will be located.  This could be the red, double-decker bus that seems to be parked at a corner not on a scheduled bus route and the camera zooms in on from the London Eye. But if Rob and Amber travel on the Jubalee Line from Baker Street and fail to get off at the Embankment Station which is the scheduled place to get off and then cross over the Themes by foot on the bridge which leads right to the Eye, but rather continue on one more stop to Waterloo Station they may be walking to the Eye from the backside and actually pass the bus with the TAR marking on it as they approach the Eye.  Then they might get the clue to proceed on to the Bus Test site without first completing the instructions which tell them to ride the Eye first.  A similar event happened in an early TAR series and the offending team who did not complete a task had to wait 30 minutes by the mat before they could be counted in.  So this may be the reason Rob and Amber lose out after some smart work to build a great lead. Just plain dumb luck at the last minute.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 01, 2005, 12:13:31 PM
GMan, really great work. 

I am holding on to the opinion that the shot(#29) of R&A is in the London underground because the aluminum framed poster behind Rob looks like a "mind the gap” (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/United_Kingdom/photo118571.htm) reminder. 

I gather that it is a big campaign (http://www.lambertsouvenirs.com/londonunderground/).

With some following (http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store.aspx?s=gu_net).

Oh, and the ticket stub looks just like the ones they use in Paris


Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2005, 12:52:27 PM
Don't think that pix 29 is in the London Underground.  In all other shots of Rob in London along with one identified as being on the Yellow Circle Line and at Abbey Road Rob is wearing a knit watchcap. In this pix he is still wearing his red Bosox hat.  It looks like he changes hats when he arrives in London early in morning and it is cold!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 01, 2005, 07:41:19 PM
Oh, I forgot about the cap.  Unless they haven't felt the cold yet.  Because he still has the cap on walking through the airport.  Does that airport have rail access?

A poster at sucks put up a cool link to satellite imaging (http://www.globexplorer.com/).  Using that I confirmed what they said:  the Roadblock parking lot is southeast of the Millennium Dome.  It's the one that is essentially by the river bank.  You can even see the curved steel rails that Amber hangs her head on while watching Rob.

And we have a time:  In a promo I saw today Big Ben says 10:52

It was as seen from the Eye but not in direct association with any team.  Just an isolated clip.  So it is not necessarily the time that teams were there.  For example, one daylight shot of the clock tower in Jodhpur had a time of 1:50 but we know the leg had already ended.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 01, 2005, 08:51:54 PM
There is a Stansted Express that runs from the airport to Liverpool Station. Trains leave every half hour before 8:00AM and every 15 minutes after that. Trip takes about 41 minutes.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 02, 2005, 08:41:18 AM
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If Rob and Amber are executed Tuesday (at the Tower; which certainly would be appropriate) they will have really blown a huge lead. This could happen if they complete the Baker Street Sherlock Holmes task and are to take the underground to the London Eye where they are to spot a well-known London landmark where the next clue will be located.  This could be the red, double-decker bus that seems to be parked at a corner not on a scheduled bus route and the camera zooms in on from the London Eye. But if Rob and Amber travel on the Jubalee Line from Baker Street and fail to get off at the Embankment Station which is the scheduled place to get off and then cross over the Themes by foot on the bridge which leads right to the Eye, but rather continue on one more stop to Waterloo Station they may be walking to the Eye from the backside and actually pass the bus with the TAR marking on it as they approach the Eye.  Then they might get the clue to proceed on to the Bus Test site without first completing the instructions which tell them to ride the Eye first.  A similar event happened in an early TAR series and the offending team who did not complete a task had to wait 30 minutes by the mat before they could be counted in.  So this may be the reason Rob and Amber lose out after some smart work to build a great lead. Just plain dumb luck at the last minute.

I think you may be onto something! I posted this theory over at TwoP with credits to you.

Especially since the VO hints to:
In London solving a mystery could lead the teams clueless

Then it gives us a shot at the eye, with shots of ONLY the other three teams at the eye. They could "skip" a whole clue... making them "clueless"

I think they would send them back though, like Gretchen and Meredith in Africa, not just make them wait 30 minutes at the map...
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2005, 08:54:12 AM
Like Chip & Kim and the twins in the first episode of TAR5, but this time they don't have teams following them who

are older,
are injured,
arrived on a later flight.

Oh wait, they do have all those things!  But this time,
at 4 pm it takes 20 min to go each mile in London,
they have to ride the eye for 30 min,
they blew most of their lead parking the bus (Rob's bus is seen going as a second one is too).
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: coksy on May 02, 2005, 09:55:03 AM


I think you may be onto something! I posted this theory over at TwoP with credits to you.

Especially since the VO hints to:
In London solving a mystery could lead the teams clueless

Then it gives us a shot at the eye, with shots of ONLY the other three teams at the eye. They could "skip" a whole clue... making them "clueless"

I think they would send them back though, like Gretchen and Meredith in Africa, not just make them wait 30 minutes at the map...

Yes, that really makes more sense now if RA are truly eliminated. I don't know if they would send them back to the eye though since some posters have mentionned that sometimes it can be hard to get onto the eye if there are a lot of people and maybe TPTB may have reserved it only for earlier.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 02, 2005, 10:38:25 AM
 

I am holding on to the opinion that the shot(#29) of R&A is in the London underground because the aluminum framed poster behind Rob looks like a "mind the gap” (http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/United_Kingdom/photo118571.htm) reminder. 






As they say in the NFL: "Upon further review" we find that you are right, this is a shot of Amber and Rob at an Underground Station and that is a poster for the Mind the Gap campaign. They are wearing the same stuff they had on when we saw them walking through the airport, so this may be them buying tickets to take the Stansted Express into London, or more likely at the Underground station at Liverpool Station where the airport express would leave them.  The thing that Amber is passing on to Rob looks like a ticket of some sort and you can barely make out the magnetic sripe that these tickets have nowadays.  Hope they were smart enought to buy a Day Pass so that they can move rapidly through the turnstiles at other stations. Amber may also be asking directions of how to get to Abbey Road since the clerk seems to be sorting through some kind of papers.

We have been assuming that the first location of a clue box is at the Abbey Road crossing, but if the producers have reserved an early opening of the London Eye just for the TAR teams, this might be the first location. But since the clue about the Beatle's Album was included, I guess, with the instruction to fly to London which the teams got at the Pit Stop in Istanbul, I imagine that this is the first task to complete.

In regards to final three, which seems to include R/K because of the RaceyGirl picture of them "at the airport in Puerto Rico" I still have my doubts. If the team of R/K lost all of their stuff and money in Istanbul, would you be buying a new backpack for what little stuff you had just for the last leg of the race? This is because RaceyGirl's picture shows a shot of Ron with newer, smaller backpack.  Very curious.  Or just a good job of photoshop editing?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2005, 12:53:36 PM
Nothing new here but I love the pic of Gretchen on the elephant
eyemail~ {l{
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Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 02, 2005, 06:13:21 PM
I've been looking at photos of Liverpool Street Station and Paddington and I did not find a definite match to the R&A by the "Mind the Gap" poster. 

360 degree of Liverpool Street Station (http://www.urban75.org/vista/liverpoolst.html)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 02, 2005, 08:03:05 PM
Behind the "self serve ticket" kiosks there seem to be people waiting in line a a window. Not clear but looks like place to buy tickets may be there.  Also note man in foreground by the ticket kiosk with blue jacket on.  seem to match same color as person we see behind counter selling tickets to Amber in #29.

Not clear but could be.  Or it could be at some other underground station.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: aidanurzeti on May 02, 2005, 08:35:41 PM

In regards to final three, which seems to include R/K because of the RaceyGirl picture of them "at the airport in Puerto Rico" I still have my doubts. If the team of R/K lost all of their stuff and money in Istanbul, would you be buying a new backpack for what little stuff you had just for the last leg of the race? This is because RaceyGirl's picture shows a shot of Ron with newer, smaller backpack.  Very curious.  Or just a good job of photoshop editing?


In TAR Season 1, Frank & Margaritta (one of final 3 teams) bought a new lighter backpack and toss their old backpack & some stuff during the final leg. So it could be that Ron/Kelly did the same.
 [^/
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: saylinara on May 02, 2005, 09:03:29 PM

In regards to final three, which seems to include R/K because of the RaceyGirl picture of them "at the airport in Puerto Rico" I still have my doubts. If the team of R/K lost all of their stuff and money in Istanbul, would you be buying a new backpack for what little stuff you had just for the last leg of the race? This is because RaceyGirl's picture shows a shot of Ron with newer, smaller backpack.  Very curious.  Or just a good job of photoshop editing?

I've heard of teams that have had to beg garner in excess of $1000 while in airports and whatnot.  If R&K can do the same, esp. in their swanky hotel for the night, I'm sure they'll have more then enough to by a backpack with, esp. if he's the only one carrying something.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Ottopart on May 02, 2005, 09:20:06 PM

I've heard of teams that have had to beg garner in excess of $1000 while in airports and whatnot.  If R&K can do the same, esp. in their swanky hotel for the night, I'm sure they'll have more then enough to by a backpack with, esp. if he's the only one carrying something.

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Phil stated they have to start the next leg with zero dollars to their name.  They cannot beg until the next leg starts.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: saylinara on May 02, 2005, 11:54:21 PM
Phil stated they have to start the next leg with zero dollars to their name.  They cannot beg until the next leg starts.

Actually, IIRC, Brandon and Nicole begged at the pitstop during their twelve hour lapse, since it was at a hotel.  They don't receive money, but the moment they are stripped of their money is the moment they can start begging if they wish.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: coksy on May 03, 2005, 12:12:17 AM
Phil stated they have to start the next leg with zero dollars to their name.  They cannot beg until the next leg starts.

Actually, IIRC, Brandon and Nicole begged at the pitstop during their twelve hour lapse, since it was at a hotel.  They don't receive money, but the moment they are stripped of their money is the moment they can start begging if they wish.

Not anymore. the rules changed and Phil clearly stated that the have to START the next leg with no money, meaning they have to wait until the Pit Stop is over to start begging. The change probably happened because of what Nicole& Brandon and other teams did, which didn't really put them at a disadvantage vs the other teams.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2005, 12:32:18 AM
Welcome  *^?  , and thanks for posting the answer coksy   )')  , like you posted I'm pretty sure this is how it works , they can start begging as soon as the next leg starts not while resting at the pitstop .
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Glebe on May 03, 2005, 02:22:57 AM
Hey all, first time poster taking a circuitous route from riii to sucks to here.

Regarding the Germanwings connection: I've been looking at their site and the flights are not always daily. They are daily July and August, but not at other times. The race was filmed in December, so I doubt the airline would be on its summer schedule at that point. The 3:55 to Cologne flies only Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays.

So... how sure are you guys on the timing of the race at this point? Are you sure it's a Monday, as a post upthread indicated?
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: rmax on May 03, 2005, 05:40:48 AM
Welcome Glebe!  Great to see you here.

There are some awesome detectives here, so I'd bet the calendar/schedule spec is correct.  I'm sure we'll get an answer.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: jettrue on May 03, 2005, 08:38:23 AM
As to the flight times... look here:http://travel.airwise.com/schedules/index.html

If you go to Dec 13th 2004, and search IST to CGN (istanbul to cologne) you'll see the flight.

I'm still skeptical that they actually take that flight though... Heathrow could have the same carpet, in the shot of R&A the carpet is kind of flecked just like the Stansted, but the shot isn't far back enough to see if the carped has the runners of solid color as well. Also, the shot of the Stansted shows a blue theme (blue chairs, blue carpet stripes, blue dots on the glass wall) while the shots of R&A show green dots and green chairs. And I've seem some shots of Heathrow with the same green chairs and green dots.

Who knows! I think they're all just as likely at this point. But someone else also brought up a good point, that maybe production requires them to only land at certain aiports? Seems like it would be easier that way... We've seen teams take different flights in... but have we ever seen teams arrive at different airports? Just wondering... I've only watched 5, 6 and now this one, though I can't recall it before....
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: cinni on May 03, 2005, 09:18:57 AM
Hey all, first time poster taking a circuitous route from riii to sucks to here.

 :<(  welcome glebe. lots of familar faces here.  }^!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2005, 09:26:19 AM
I confirmed the flight info.

But remember:

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But the trick here is to learn that it does not fly out of the large international Anaturk airport (IST)  but from the smaller SABIHA (SAW) airport
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2005, 09:54:02 AM
Welcome Glebe  *^? , I read on another board that its very possable that the carpet is not exclusive to Stansted airport , I've never been to London so what do I know ? It was speculation as well as fun detective work , it's very hard to get photos of airport interiors but I was excited when I saw the picture that I posted above , right or wrong   [^/ .  I'm sure if we are wrong we will hear about it but if we are right no one will remember  {l{ .
Just to note the promo on the TAR website does not pick up colors to well , the pattern/dots on the glass doors do match up as well as the ugly carpet ands columns , they may very well be blue  chairs /dots / carpet whatever so I guess we wait and see .
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 03, 2005, 12:23:34 PM
Wow, I go away for a couple of days and can't believe the number of posts.  Great job, all.

I'm a contrarian like Jettrue.  Remember, Dec. 13 is a Monday.  Available walk up seats to fly to a major city like London on a Monday morning are scarce.  Try flying from Dallas to Washington Reagan on a Monday at the last moment.  Very hard to do.

I think two of the teams have confirmed seats to a city like Amsterdam or Budpest but do not have confirmed seats to London.  They take a chance that they'll get stand-by seats and are successful.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: gingerman28 on May 03, 2005, 03:10:50 PM
Here's something else to puzzle on for the next few hours.  If Ron and Kelly have to wait until the leg starts before they can beg for money how do they get from the Four Season Hotel to the pit stop mat at the fort?  That's when the clock starts again for departure times and the next leg begins. Or do the producers provide transport for all teams from wherever they are spending the last 12 hours back to the pitstopmat to get the first clue for the next leg (fly to London)
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 03, 2005, 06:11:59 PM
G'man,  It wouldn't surprise me that they all don't stay over at the Four Seasons.  Maybe the other racers only get a regular room instead of a suite.

Teams usually stay in real nice places.  Ron and Kelly are in trouble if they don't stay in a four star hotel.  Remember Rebecca getting 100 dollars at that Shanghai hotel?

Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Pedaler on May 04, 2005, 10:44:29 AM
Congratulations to all of the detectives.  I'm probably missing some of the discoveries but here are most:

U&J's cab ride was in Turkey, not England
Confirming Abbey Road
Id'ing R&A on the way to Abbey Road from the Underground station
Id'ing the Circle Line Train, Heathrow Express, and Paddington Station
Determing that the detour was stack or sleuth
Determing that the Sleuth detour ended at the Sherlock Holmes Museum
Id'ing the London Eye
Id'ing the roadblock near the Millennium Dome
Deducing that the elimination (execution) mat would be near the Tower of London or the Tower Bridge

Sherlock Holmes would be proud
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Chateau d If on May 04, 2005, 03:03:31 PM
And GMan gets points for calling the initial clue to Abbey Road.

And check out the real boats at Battersea Park (http://www.the-artery.co.uk/photos/a_BatterseaPark1.php).  I think Production rented boats from Serpentine Lake and brought them over. 

No wonder we got the wrong lake!
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: Texan on May 04, 2005, 04:15:23 PM
I think they started the rule about begging as the international hotels did not want the racers to bug their clients.  I am sure they are giving CBS special rates and can set the rules.

BUT they did not say that to M/G whent ehy lsot the money, it may have been because they were at at 4 start hotel as a gift of travelocity.
Title: Re: EP 11 Vidcaps
Post by: rmax on May 04, 2005, 05:46:37 PM
I didn't see the boats at first, just goats!  Thought maybe there had been a typo in there somewhere...

Never mind  |(