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Welcome to Survivor Insider!
DC Notes: Thank you to everyone for waiting! And a BIG thank you to those who actually say thank you. It takes a lot of time to do these, and I absolutely adore it when my work goes acknowledged.
I FINISHED! Do a victory dance!
My favorite clip was "Twila's Tough". Also, check out "A Day at Lopevi", strictly for vanity reasons.
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Yasur Tribal Council
Lisa 'Liminiated
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Eliza (Votes Lisa): Lisa, cross me once, shame on you. Cross me twice, shame on me. I wasn’t going to let it happen again. You tried to get me voted off, and I’m not standing for it. I’m sorry. Your time to go.
Lisa (Votes Rory): Well, I really don’t want to vote you off, but I want to prove that my word is good with the ladies. And I don’t think you’re going anyway. But anyway, good luck.
Rory (Votes Lisa): Lisa, you know how I feel about you. I love you by your personality and your character. You’re a godful-fearing woman. You support your family. You love your family. And I absolutely adore you. This is the hardest vote I’ve had to make. But I’m the only man standing, and I gotta go with the flow. Ain’t nothin’ personal, it’s just business.
Ami (Votes Lisa and doesn’t say anything)
Leann (Votes Lisa): I’m sorry that my performance today may cause you to go home. I apologize for that. And the only reason why I’m voting for you is because of a sliver of mistrust I have. And that’s the only thing I got to go on. Sorry.
Scout (Votes Rory): Rory, I told you about this. This is not a vote against you. This is a vote in support of our alliance and it’s an honoring vote for Lisa, who I really cherish. I couldn’t put her name down. Love you Rory, you’re doing great.
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Lisa
Final Words
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DC Notes: These last words are all alike. 1) "Survivor is hard." 2) “I will appreciate everything.” 3) "I was voted off unfairly."
Lisa: I was voted off because there were a few women in the tribe, particularly Ami, that did not trust me for whatever reason. I don’t know. It’s quite unfair. But she definitely had some power over the other women, so they voted me out. And that’s the way it is. But I believe it was totally unfair.
I voted for Rory specifically to prove to those women that I stuck to my word and I was behind them. And if for any other reason to get voted off, I wanted to leave with dignity and I wanted to show them that I’m good for my word. And by voting for Rory, I did that, knowing that he was not going to get voted off. But I still would’ve done it.
(Cut)
When I walk away from the experience of Survivor, I walk away realizing what’s important in life. People that trust you, that love you, that respect you and don’t judge you based on one thing you say. And I learned that the group I was with, they’re not those type of people that I want to be with. Although I have to say, I love the game of Survivor.
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I think what surprised me the most about Survivor is that it’s a heck of a lot harder than it appears. As far as not having luxuries and food and comfort and just the workload. It’s not relaxation. It’s constant work to get a meal. So I think what shocked me was how incredibly hard that part of it was, but also how hard it is to deal with people. And I pretty much get along with most everyone, at least that I know of. It was tough getting along with this group of people. I’ve had to bite my tongue several times. That was very hard.
(Cut)
Well, one thing I learned about myself is I will never take my family or my lifestyle for granted. I love my friends. I love my family. I love my church. And mostly I love the lord. And I will never take that for granted. And that is, to me, the most important thing in my life.
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Lisa
The Day After
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Lisa: Well the Survivor experience was about the most incredible, hardest thing I’ve ever done in my whole life. It was everything I expected, and then some. Really. It was very challenging. It was difficult as far as elements. As far as food and water, it was extremely difficult. And then mostly, as far as the personalities: I think that was the hardest. But the overall experience was something I will always cherish and remember. I absolutely had the most incredible time of my life. It was amazing (laughs). Really.
(Cut)
There were definitely several contestants that really were totally opposite as far as personalities. I was on the tribe with mostly women. Well, it was all women at first. I thought we were all, everyone one of us, were very different. There were nine of us, and I would say that maybe 2 were close in personalities, but really, we were all different. Well, there were two women on the tribe that are gay, and then I was the only married one, I believe. I have six children, so I have the most kids. No, I think there was one other with one child.
DC Notes: She doesn’t know her tribe that well at all! Twila says her proudest accomplishment is raising her son as a single mother. Leann is really emotional about her divorce from her husband. These are prominent facts about her tribemates, impossible to ignore.
Lisa: We were just all from different backgrounds. Religions. Politically we’re all different. There were times when religion and politics came up, and you could tell! You could tell that we were quite different in those two areas. And especially in the way that we think and deal about the world. And they were totally different than me as far as of that.
So you had to deal with, one, a lot of the girls were a lot younger than me and knew a lot more about the world right now than I do, and then there were a couple older than me, so I kind of had to fit in with all those different age groups and the different personalities and the different ways they live in with the world. Our lives are different. I’m a mom. And they’re single (laughs). So that’s different!
I thought it was very hard at first to relate to the entire tribe. I did not say that, but when I found out it was a tribe of all women, I really was not happy about that. Namely because I knew I could get along with the men. There were some of the men, I didn’t know them because we weren’t allowed to talk. But I could sense that they were more like me than some of the women. They looked more like dads or something.
But I knew when it was all women, I just thought I was in trouble. I feel like I had a hard time fitting in even with the language. There was a lot of cursing and a lot of sex talk, and I’m just not into all that. I was real uncomfortable. I liked them all. It’s not that I judged them on it. But I just was uncomfortable. That first night, we were trying to find our camp, and we were all snuggled under a tree, and it was storming. And we couldn’t sleep. It was dark, it was freezing, it was storming, it was dark. We were hyper. We were all excited. All we did was talk. And just the language and the topic of conversation. I was real uncomfortable. And I just felt like if there were more men around, probably we wouldn’t have gone that deep into that kind of discussion. So I felt real uncomfortable, and I felt it was going to be hard to fit in.
And then after a day or two, I felt comfortable. I was okay. But we still all think and just are different.
(Cut)
It was harder than I expected. The whole Survivor game was harder. I knew it was going to be hard. But yes, it was definitely harder than I expected. You go into the game, and you prepare. I prepared myself. For two months I worked out hard. I cut back on the sugar and on caffeine and everything I thought – I knew I wasn’t going to have. I tried to cut back on so I could get used to it. So my body could get used to it. And I was in really good shape.
So I thought, okay, it’s going to be hard, but it can’t be that hard. I can do without food. We’ll eat coconut, and that’ll be enough. And I’m so strong. But let me tell ya, you start eating that coconut, and you don’t even look at it again. And then it’s hard to chew because you’re thirsty and you’re not getting enough water, so to swallow the coconut is even hard. And then you eat things like unripe plantains, and they’re so nasty that you can’t eat another one. And all you think about is food. That’s all you think about. I heard that it happens, but until you’re there, that is all you can think about. Your next bite of chocolate or your next big plate of lasagna. And that’s all we talked about (OTHER THAN DOING THE NASTY). It was crazy! It was the craziest thing! I never thought I would miss food that much. And it was wild how that’s all we could think about. Even more so than our families (laughs). I totally couldn’t think! So it was very, very, very hard.
(Cut)
I think probably I was a good representation for mothers. I hope that I was. I tried to be not a prude, Christian mother. “Gosh, they’re cursing.” It’s not like that I was, “I can’t hear that” or “my kids will hear that I hear that.” It’s not that because people are people. And I tried to be, “that’s how they are.” I didn’t want to be a prude. So I think I was a good representative for mothers.
It’s my Christian side that I’m hoping more than that that I was a good example for. There were a couple of times in there where I feel I did a couple of things – like Scout wanted me to swear on her hand like it was a bible, that I was telling the truth, and I did, because in my mind I was thinking, “That’s not a bible. That’s her hand.” But then I looked back and I thought, “You know what? That’s sacred to me.” I don’t take that lightly. Even it was her hand or even if I was swearing on the bible or to god, I don’t take that lightly. You’re in the moment of the game, and people are looking at you, and they want you to do that. And you’re like, “Well, if I don’t do that, they’re not going to believe me.” And you want them to believe you, so you do it. But then you think, “Now why did I do that?”
What I wish I would have done was said, first of all, I don’t take this lightly. This is very serious to me. If I do that, I want assurance that you will believe me. But I did it. I did that, and they did still not believe me. So that’s the kind of thing I wish now I hadn’t done now.
Other than that, I think I taught them some Christian songs. I tried to talk about my beliefs to the point where I could slip it in without disrespecting anyone or insulting anyone or offending anyone. Heck, they talked about “the spirits” all the time. I was like “Yeah, whatever.” Scout didn’t want me to throw the coconut at the tiki in case it would, I don’t know, send off evil spirits. When she turned around I threw it anyway! (Laughs) So it doesn’t matter.
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A Day in the Life of Lopevi
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Description: John describes a typical day at Lopevi. A typical day when no Tribal Council looms, that is.
DC Notes: This is just a typical description of JOHN'S day at camp.
Sarge's typical day:
- Build a mud replicate of Royry and yell at it for being lazy and not helping around camp
- Flirt with Twila
- Stare at Julie
- Flirt with Twila
- Stare at Julie
- Yell at Royry for staring at the girls and not helping around camp
Chris's typical day:
How should I know? He falls off balance beams and has blisters on feet. He doesn't get any screen time.
Chad's typical day:
- Remove leg and leave it at camp
- Enjoy a big, heaping breakfast with the Survivor production team
- Laugh because no one notices his absence - his leg is the only part of him that gets screen time and it's right there for the camera crews to film
Twila's typical day:
- Make googly eyes at Sarge
- Work on curing her "Cubicle Syndrome" - the tendency to make it look like you're doing work by having a purposeful expression on your face and holding a work-related object in your hand, while actually doing nothing
Julie's typical day:
- Contemplate Kimmi's patented "dirt line" method of eliminating pesky tan lines.
- Decide to get naked and sunbathe (Hey, she's on national television, and those tan lines are soooo not attractive)
John K. (Confessional): This afternoon’s been great. We won our challenge, and since then, came back, had a little snack of plantains and papaya, and just kind of been napping for the past couple of hours. Can’t really beat it.
(Cut)
We just won four challenges in a row. We’re going strong. And I don’t see us not winning – I mean, not losing – any for quite a while now. As long as we have our tribe, I think we can keep winning these challenges.
(Cut)
The rest of the day is probably a little more napping, followed by firewood gathering, and then cooking. Same as always. Just gather the firewood, cook some plantains and manioc, and just relax, cause we’re not too stressed out. We don’t have tribal council tonight. We can breathe a lot easier. Everything’s easy.
(Cut)
I think Yasur’s probably freaking out right now because we’ve just won four in a row. Their strategy, whatever it was, of getting rid of Bubba first, I think they’re going to rethink that, because if they were to get rid of Rory, he’s their only other strength. And without them (HIM), they’re going to have some trouble beating us.
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Say a Little Prayer
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Description: Before she and Rory try to rekindle Yasur’s dampened fire, Scout asks God for a sign. She gets her sign, which makes her decision about whom to vote off next.
DC Notes: This clip has those yellow headlines that give the day, person’s name, tribe name, etc. It looks like it was supposed to be included in the actual episode.
(Day 15 – Scout and Rory are trying to make a fire)
Rory (Confessional): Last night was an extremely, extremely windy night. The wind must have been blowing 25 miles an hour all night. It really wiped out the campfire. At this point, the fire’s completely out, and we have to start over from zero. But it will be a good morning. We’ll get it done.
(Scout chops wood)
Rory: Chafes me a little bit that Scout obviously runs this whole operation, and not one of the ladies has stirred to help with the fire. They all slept right through it. And they’re letting the oldest lady in the group pull the weight. My first response the morning was to go and kick the hut until each and every one of those ladies gets their asses up.
(More shots of Scout and Rory doing chores)
Scout (Confessional): I’ve had a little scare in my belly since we’ve been out here, and I’ve had a good shake with the earthquake. That got me a little rattled. And then this morning, the thought of our flint, going down, and not having fire. But I did say a prayer this morning, and I said, okay, if we’re striking the flint and it wouldn’t go and it wouldn’t go, and I said, “Okay creator, if you want Eliza to go first and Rory to hang out with us, let this fire happen.”
DC Notes: So what did Scout think would happen? She’d never, ever get a fire? She wants Eliza to go. She’s just trying to justify her situation with mysticism.
(Rory tries over and over to make a fire and eventually succeeds)
Rory: I think we got it.
Scout: Okay.
Scout (Confessional): Give me a sign, and PHOOF! That thing flamed right up. I take those things seriously. I ask. When you ask, you’re given.
Rory: Good work (hugs Scout). Good way to start the morning.
Scout: Yeah.
Scout (Confessional): But Rory and I do work well together. We’re both scorpios, so we have a good understanding of emotions. They run deep. This morning, I know that if we continue to pay the numbers game, that Rory and Eliza would come up next if we have to go to the immunity challenge (SHE MEANS IF THEY LOSE). We know that at some point we’ll have to vote a sister out, and it’s a matter of sequencing and timing. So I’m going to talk to Ami and Leann, and right now, I think we really need Rory to help keep the fire going. He and I – what we’re doing in the morning – is really important. So we’ll see how the day goes. That’s where my thought is today. It ain’t over till the fat lady sings. (Laughs) That’s the truth!
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Load of Crap
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Description: Ami expresses her displeasure about Eliza’s performance in the Pig Pen Reward Challenge. Apparently, Eliza suffers from a deep fear of pigs, and Ami’s not thrilled about that.
Ami (Confessional): The challenge today was a blast! I had fun. I’m sad we lost. We were to catch 10 pigs, put them in a pen, keep ‘em there and do it before the other team did, and we didn’t make it. Eliza was a little afraid of the pigs, I think (laughs), and she ended up with a faceful of mud. And she was not about ready to touch one of those pigs, so it was kind of sad we lost the steak. Back to cabbage soup.
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Yeah, Eliza didn’t want to touch the pigs. You could tell. She was scared of the pigs. You could tell on her face, she was scared of them. Because they were easy to catch, they weren’t too big. They were pretty slow. And maybe she hasn’t been around pigs a whole lot (laughs). But yeah, she wasn’t too excited about touching the pigs.
(Cut)
Do I think that’s okay? I think that’s a load of crap! (Laughs) I think it’s a total load of crap. Check fear at the door and let’s play this game! That’s how I feel. We came here to play a game and to win, and I would have loved to have steak tonight, and eggs, and spices for later on. But.
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I don’t know how I’m going to deal with Eliza being scared today, and I don’t really feel like even at the challenge before that, the diving challenge, that everybody really gave it everything they had. I feel like Rory did. I feel like Rory gave it everything he had today, and at the diving, and at the paddling. I feel like we all did all right, but it wasn’t that intense. It wasn’t that scary. You had to go for it.
I don’t know how I’m going to deal with Eliza’s fear (laughs). I think she has to deal with it. There’s nothing really I can do. But I’m definitely going to say something to her.
I’m not eating steak tonight. I can’t say it’s all because of Eliza, that we lost today. I can’t say that. But I would definitely say that her fear today but a damper on our performance.
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There could have been a difference if Bubba would have been around, but I wasn’t willing to take that playing-two-sides-of-the-fence attitude for the difference.
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I think we’ll all keep our chins up and have our dinner and go to bed and see what tonight brings.
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I don’t know how Rory feels right now. He’s gotta feel like we’re all laying it all out there, and here you got one of your teammates not performing to the top of her ability, and you’re thinking maybe about kicking me out? He’s gotta be questioning that a little bit right now. I know I would.
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The Lone Survivor
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Description: Aware that he’s got a target on his back, Rory goes off alone and laments his pitiful plight while the women have breakfast.
(Nighttime at Yasur camp)
Scout (Confessional): Rory would like to go off on everyone right now, but that would just seal his fate. He’s had a fit and foul in it, sitting over there on his pity pot, so hopefully he’ll wipe his ass and get off and get over it and start a new day. We’ll see what we can make of it.
(Morning – the women are eating breakfast together)
Lisa: This is like heaven
Ami: I wonder where Rory is.
Eliza: He’s out exploring. He knew breakfast would be ready. I told him.
Lisa: Is he okay? Scout, did you get a chance to talk with him?
Scout: He’s a good guy.
Someone?: Yeah.
Someone else: Um, I don’t know, I’ve known him for two days.
Ami: It would stink to be in his position.
Rory (Confessional): Basically right now, I’m at zero. And I have no options. Very upsetting for me because my work ethic, I was hoping would shine through. Even through all the work I’ve done, they’re not giving me a shot. Right now I’m a lone Survivor. It’s just Rory. And I’ve got to do whatever possible to ensure that I can make it past Day 15. And that’s going to be a stretch and a struggle for me, but I’m not going to quit.
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Paltry Pig Pen Performance
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Description: Leann laments Yasur’s dismal failure at the Pig Pen Reward Challenge. Not only that, but their food supply is dwindling, and things are generally falling apart.
Leann (Confessional): The pig challenge? I was so sure we were going to win our next challenge, which was the grab-a-pig-in-the-mud challenge. And obviously we lost. It was really, really, really a hard challenge to lose, because it wasn’t skewed towards strength. It was something we easily could have won. Not a happy camper. Hungry! I wanted that steak!
Actually, after the challenge, I felt really down. My spirits were down. I felt like just coming home, washing off, and going to bed. I didn’t want to talk to anybody, I didn’t want to be cheered up. I was just mad.
I’m still kind of mad about it. What do you do? We tried.
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Can’t say I didn’t try. I’ll give it everything, I don’t care. I’m a little bothered that Eliza didn’t want to get dirty. Seemed like she didn’t want to get dirty. I don’t know. Just go and get after it! You know? I didn’t get my two, so I can’t complain, really, that much, but I tried hard. I got my one. I don’t know how they did it. They just did it really fast. They just did it really fast. It seemed like we were doing okay. I think we just lost time with Eliza. Maybe I stayed out there longer than I should have the second time around. I don’t know. This sucks. I hate losing. I hate it! More than anything! I realized how much I hate it, losing three things in a row now – four. I can’t remember now.
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Not only do I hate losing, I hate seeing other people win! (Laughs) I want to be the winner. And when it’s food – all we do is think about food and dream about food thee days. All our supply of food we had when Dolly was here – I don’t know, did we eat the island clean? Because all of the good stuff is gone. We’re back to coconut and plantain. I hope I never see either again after I’m done with this.
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Well, it just seems like, it just seems like the area we’re in, the general area seems like that’s where the vegetation is, and we’ve kind of exhausted that whole area. I know that various people have set off on hikes in all directions trying to find additional areas, but not really having much luck at all. I just think that the time of the year. It’s winter, and there’s just not much growing. Maybe if we had Da back he could show us some more tricks (laughs). Finding the manioc is proving to be difficult. Trying to dig up vines, and not getting anything once you dig them up. There’s not much around. Sugar cane’s at an all time low. Doesn’t make me happy!
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I was hooked on the cane. There might be one or two stalks left. Just don’t want to use it up all now. We just need food! Oh my god! It’s hard! It’s two weeks already! Nothing but bland, starchy foods. We’re not having any protein. And I haven’t been on a tribe that’s won a reward for food yet, so that one pringle we had way back when was heaven. I haven’t had anything normal since! Normal to me.
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Twila’s Tough
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Description: Twila assesses Lopevi’s chances now that they’ve won an exceptionally tough Immunity Challenge. Find out exactly how glad she is to be away from Yasur.
DC Notes: This is the most interesting clip of the bunch. Twila has completely integrated with Lopevi, at least in her mind, and she’s broken off from the women. She also thinks that if they were to merge, the Lopevi tribe, including Julie and John K., would stick together and vote off all Yasur members. So far as she goes, the Yasur tribe is now the enemy. She thinks Yasur made a mistake in booting Bubba, but what she fails to realize is Sarge asked her to be in the alliance only because they needed a replacement for Bubba.
Twila (Confessional): I am so happy that we crushed them today. You just wouldn’t believe it. We just know we need to win. We would like to win if it’s tomorrow. Whenever it comes up, we would like to win the next two. The next reward challenge, that’ll really put them down, and then the next immunity, and I think we have it. We want it so bad. It’s kind of interesting to see who’s going to be around tomorrow. Even if I had been there I don’t think I would’ve changed their minds about who they got rid of last time. I think they messed up with muscle-wise, but I’m excited. Hell, I’m ready. Let’s go.
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That was tough. I’m weak - I would say I smoked for 30 years and my lungs ain’t as good as these young kids. That, oh my god. That was a tough challenge. That was the toughest challenge we’ve had since we’ve been here, and I’m so proud of every one of ‘em, because that was a kick-ass challenge. It would have been tough. For me, that would have been tough. I’d have been probably like Leann. It would have took me a while to get through it. The wind was up. The waves were kicking your ass every time you tried to come up from air, they said it was kinda hard cause they’d get a mouthful of water. Shoo, that was tough.
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Julie was awesome. I was so proud of Julie today. She just amazed me. She said she was a strong swimmer, and I thought damn, she’s awful small. But she got out there and she kicked some ass and I was so proud of her. She never quit. She just kept going. And shoo, I was proud of her. I told her. I was proud of her. She done good.
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Yeah, I was happy. I just want to get ahead of them so bad. If we could win the next reward and the next immunity challenge and be six and four, I would be very happy. Very happy. Because if they get rid of Rory, or however you say his name (ROYRY), if they get rid of him tonight that shows the women are sticking together, but it also leaves them very vulnerable. To me, it’s a piss-poor decision on their part because they’ve got at least one wink link they could get rid of, and they could’ve gotten rid of last time. Strategically, I don’t think it was a good move, and it probably would have done me no good, and I’d probably would have gotten a lot of people pissed off at me for expressing my opinion over there. But I don’t think it was a good move over there. And yeah, I’m happy as hell. They did it. Scout picked the teams. I was just lucky enough to get on this one.
DC Notes: I didn't transcribe "From Rat to Pig in a Poke?" because it was shown in the actual episode. For anyone who wants to see the exact comments exchanged between Lisa and Ami again, this is the clip for you.
Edited by: DCReads56 at: 10/23/04 10:21 pm
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Godo readign ~ thanks for posting. Should be interesting when they merge if Twilla is against the women now.
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I think that she goes before or after Sarge but, not before Rory ;) At least she will have Sarge to keep her warm at night on sequesterville :)* they make such a cute couple *()* The new Romber ... what do we call Sarge & Twila ..Swila?
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Wow, thanks puddin!