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Title: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: georgiapeach on July 13, 2019, 10:30:08 PM
Starts tomorrow??
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: BourkieBoy on July 13, 2019, 11:53:06 PM
Starts July 15, 2019, on Reshet 13!   :tup:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 14, 2019, 01:53:27 AM
Epic!

Same links site, I presume?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on July 14, 2019, 02:42:51 AM
Ah, 3 non-US TAR at the same time to enjoy over the summer, awesome.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: ZBC Company on July 15, 2019, 12:27:05 PM
peach are we going see episode 1 soon
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on July 15, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
First leg Non-Elimination. Nice change :) Every season there'd be that one unlucky team (or two when they split it up) who never got out of Israel.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: ZBC Company on July 15, 2019, 05:17:49 PM
First leg Non-Elimination. Nice change :) Every season there'd be that one unlucky team (or two when they split it up) who never got out of Israel.

True, like fact get one leg for episode
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on July 15, 2019, 05:28:22 PM
Agreed, I personally think that there should be more leg 1 NELs because it gives us more time with the cast, especially considering TARI usually excels in casting and this cast looks pretty good as well.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 16, 2019, 02:30:20 AM
Not bad. Not bad at all. I liked the task right before the Pit Stop, and it's always fun to see how much TAR Israel splurges on crane-related tasks.

How are we romanizing "כאמלה"? Wikipedia says Kamle, a FB page by someone with the same name says Camla, but I swore that they were saying "Camilla".

Also, I see the official site sucks once again. No full names, hometowns or ages. They said some of this information in their intros, but not everybody... Please help me find this info if you can!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: bavariankid on July 16, 2019, 03:12:54 AM
How are we romanizing "כאמלה"? Wikipedia says Kamle, a FB page by someone with the same name says Camla, but I swore that they were saying "Camilla".

reshet themselves uses "kamle" in the url https://13tv.co.il/tags/kamle-and-bahira/ (https://13tv.co.il/tags/kamle-and-bahira/) - I would simply go with that too.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 16, 2019, 03:31:55 AM
They also use "Judy", but the show clearly does not present her name as Judy, in text or speech.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on July 16, 2019, 10:24:25 PM
I enjoyed it, but would have liked it more if I hadn't been directly spoiled on the outcome while following the discussion of where the link would be.  The task with the fruit ended up being much harder than I expected.  It's great to see a leg go from day to night.  Short easy legs are boring.  Also teams didn't seem to be helping each other (maybe not that easy on the tasks anyway), which helped the drama.  They all got driven around though which seemed strange as it wasn't even outside of Israel.  The only task I didn't fully understand was the last one, where they had to persuade a member of the public to help them, good to see interaction with the locals though. 

The teams seem to have some variety with several older people, but some eye candy for those who want it too.  Some characters in there, like the geeky men who missed the clue giver, the older woman who fancied that same guy I think and others.  Obviously playing up their parts, but that's ok.  The older teams obviously look less physically fit but will be underdog stories.

Can I  upload it elsewhere so others can watch?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: MrKnowIrAll on July 16, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
The only task I didn't fully understand was the last one, where they had to persuade a member of the public to help them, good to see interaction with the locals though. 


Teams had to find a person that is flying outside the country in the next 24 h and must showcase the flight ticket as proof. It's an unusual needle in a haystack type of task and I suspect it took the teams much longer than production expected.

The first legs of TARI are usually hard legs but this one was one the toughest legs I can recall. If it's going to continue in that pace it will be a very exiting season.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 17, 2019, 12:11:35 AM
The only task I didn't fully understand was the last one, where they had to persuade a member of the public to help them, good to see interaction with the locals though. 

The wiki (https://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=HaMerotz_LaMillion_7_Leg_1) should usually have accurate information about the tasks within 24 hours of the Pit Stop episode coming out. I translate the subtitles when the host explains the task, so it's usually pretty accurate.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 17, 2019, 04:31:58 PM
When does the show air this time around? Mondays and...?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: bavariankid on July 17, 2019, 04:37:39 PM
When does the show air this time around? Mondays and...?
... Wednesdays and Saturdays https://13tv.co.il/tv-guide/ (https://13tv.co.il/tv-guide/). Not sure if these days are valid for every week though.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on July 17, 2019, 04:43:41 PM
Episode thoughts: This was another fun episode. Was interesting to see the Intersection return for the first time in a few years. It was made even more intriguing since some teams were forced to intersect with the people they voted.

Gili is reminding me of Debbie and her obsession with purple is so much fun.  :funny:
It's not often that we hear locals instead of the teams complain about someone not speaking english.  :funny:
Didn't realize that Tia & Fay making devil horns when talking about Eden would be a recurring thing.  :funny:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 17, 2019, 10:27:10 PM
Gili and Tali more remind me of Osnat & Carmit from season 2, actually.

Did I miscount, or do we seriously have another FOUR-WAY TIE for the Yield! Insanity!!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on July 20, 2019, 04:07:19 PM
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It's always sad to see a team go home due to an injury, so I do feel sad for Noy & Hadar to go out that way.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 20, 2019, 09:43:22 PM
What is it with TAR Israel and their obsession with 100% luck-based tasks right before the Pit Stop? It drives me insane!! If it weren't for [explained in Xoruz's post], a team would have gone home, totally undeserving of the dishonour. It really sucks.

I'm glad everything else can make up for it. What a brilliant Roadblock, it gave me lots of laughs.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: ImANewUser on July 21, 2019, 03:40:59 AM
the random tasks right before the Pit Stop (which wasn't always luck, right?) <3 <3 <3 I love how it usually throws a wrench in otherwise predictable legs (though this leg wasn't that really) <3
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 21, 2019, 06:32:31 AM
the random tasks right before the Pit Stop (which wasn't always luck, right?) <3 <3 <3 I love how it usually throws a wrench in otherwise predictable legs (though this leg wasn't that really) <3

I don't so much see it as throwing a wrench into legs. To me, it feels more like invalidating everything that came before. Look at Nisim & Orel... They bombed the Roadblock completely; Orel took the longest out of anybody to finish it, dropping them all the way down to "last" place. But then, oopsie poopsies, they find a lucky pearl and rocket all the way up to 6th. So, their struggle at the Roadblock ended up having no consequences. (I really like Nisim & Orel, I'm just speaking unbiased here). The Instagram girls fell down deep into last place, and I feel they were quite right to say "Ze lo fair".

It's really dumb. It boils the entire leg down to a simple roll of the dice. A team can dominate the leg and be in first the whole time, then suddenly get eliminated because they can't pick the right paella cube or whatever. As a viewer, it feels like there's no stakes in anything. If I see a team ahead, I don't cheer for them and believe they will win. If I see a team behind, I don't get worried that they won't catch up and will be eliminated. Not when there's a dice roll at the very end that can change literally everything.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: ImANewUser on July 21, 2019, 07:05:48 AM
As a viewer, it feels like there's no stakes in anything. If I see a team ahead, I don't cheer for them and believe they will win. If I see a team behind, I don't get worried that they won't catch up and will be eliminated. Not when there's a dice roll at the very end that can change literally everything.
IMO, on the contrary, I feel like it ups everything, because *anything* can happen and I am gonna root for the teams I like to get any advantage they can because they're gonna need all the help they can get
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on July 22, 2019, 12:17:42 PM
I don't really like things that are too chance orientated on elimination legs.  I remember the Ukraine version had a very good example of that with some coconut cracking challenge, it was a great season but that was a sour point I remember. 

In this case it may have been possible for a team to miss the pearl, we saw two teams managing to find it after searching through the remains of what they had, so I wonder if Michal and Omer might have missed one.  A cute team though, Omer seems steadier, though I noticed she shook a lot at both the opening heights challenge in Israel and at the hospital fakery.  Apparently she was in the army so I thought she'd have less nerves.

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I was sorry to see Noy and Hadar go too, yes they were loud, but they had some funny moments (I can see why they were apparently involved with children's tv).  They stopped to have a picture taken with some children in the first leg

I'm not that bothered about Nisim and Orel, they are an underdog team but I'd rather support others who have more character, such as Tali and Gili.  The interaction with the taxi driver was funny, and it shows how interesting it can be when people are outside of their normal environment.  There's more interaction with the locals, this is what the Canadian and Viet versions can miss out on.  And without subs it's obviously easier to watch with more English spoken, and just more different situations and locales.

(I did wonder whether, with the Israeli subs, it's possible to capture the unicode hardsubs using programs like AviSubDetector, Videosubfinder, esrxp, ABBYY FineReader or subrip - has anyone tried)?

With their English, it's generally ok, though sometimes, like with Gili in the taxi before that funny Nisim/Orel incident, it was hard to make out all she was saying, and the taxi driver probably didn't understand all she said like me.

Tia (the straight haired one I think) has some sassiness to her and I'm sure that appeals to some. 

It's nice to see a team of different generations with the mother/daughter. 

Bahira seems to be smiling most of the time, and she has that funny staring puzzled look at the mat. 

Aviad and Eden look a strong team, but she also gets dramatic at times. 

The newlyweds Ariel and Karin seems pretty good, he seems stronger though he also looked in despair in the first heights task in Israel when they got it wrong first time. 

Eyal and Sid and Haviv and Itzak may be the strongest teams but the latter could be the most boring one to me.  Two sets of twins in this season, but I thought Haviv and Itzak (the two strong guys) looked more like the identical twins, surprisingly to me it's actually Nov and Hadar who are identical.

One of Ran and Ben described the other as his partner to a local, but I'm assuming the are just co-workers as advertised.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on July 22, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
And there's the penguin bumping task. Man, imagine if it actually could have been Antarctica...
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on July 22, 2019, 03:06:55 PM
Also, how hilarious would it be it someone had voted for someone else than Ran & Ben?

11-way tie for 1 vote, so I guess everyone would have to wait out the Yield. So close :lol:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 22, 2019, 04:30:33 PM
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And without subs it's obviously easier to watch with more English spoken, and just more different situations and locales.

(I did wonder whether, with the Israeli subs, it's possible to capture the unicode hardsubs using programs like AviSubDetector, Videosubfinder, esrxp, ABBYY FineReader or subrip - has anyone tried)?

Learn this (https://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/hebrew.htm) keyboard, then you can translate any subtitles you're curious about. It's how I watch!  :cheer:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 22, 2019, 11:32:40 PM
Also, how hilarious would it be it someone had voted for someone else than Ran & Ben?

11-way tie for 1 vote, so I guess everyone would have to wait out the Yield. So close :lol:

I believe that the Yield would be cancelled. This is what I believe happened in Sri Lanka during season 2. There was a U-Turn vote (you can very clearly see the voting board), but nothing ever happened with it. It was the final 5, so I believe they all voted for each other and it was cancelled.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on July 23, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
Also, how hilarious would it be it someone had voted for someone else than Ran & Ben?

11-way tie for 1 vote, so I guess everyone would have to wait out the Yield. So close :lol:

I believe that the Yield would be cancelled. This is what I believe happened in Sri Lanka during season 2. There was a U-Turn vote (you can very clearly see the voting board), but nothing ever happened with it. It was the final 5, so I believe they all voted for each other and it was cancelled.

Well, long time no see on RFF, instead of quoting I sent you a message, but I'll leave it on a spoiler mark about what I've said.
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As far as I've understood and watched, who was Yielded was actually announced after the Double Battle midway to the next Route Info, and Ran & Ben received 2 votes out of 11. If not this, then we'd witness a massive Yield, like a Yield for everyone (oof?). Four alone, like HMLM 5, I forgot the Italian or Romanian leg, was massive, let alone 11.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on July 23, 2019, 02:59:51 PM
How many yields are there normally on a season, I'm assuming there are less as it goes on otherwise they could easily just decide eliminations.  I'm assuming there must be some rules concerning not selecting the same team every time, as tactically that would be the obvious way to upset the least number of people.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 23, 2019, 05:53:14 PM
How many yields are there normally on a season, I'm assuming there are less as it goes on otherwise they could easily just decide eliminations.  I'm assuming there must be some rules concerning not selecting the same team every time, as tactically that would be the obvious way to upset the least number of people.

There's a Yield or U-Turn on every single leg, except for any legs in Israel, and the final four onwards. In seasons 2 and 3, there were more U-Turns than Yields. However, as Detours became more and more rare on the Race, most legs just have a Yield now. Honestly, it's a little bit lame. I don't understand why they don't just make Detours. Detours are fun!

No rules about who you vote for. Just vote. Look at season 4. Vova & Alla got **smothered** in votes, with pretty much every single other team voting for them on almost every leg.
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Post by: Musicon on July 23, 2019, 06:45:43 PM
I haven't seen earlier seasons, so don't want specific information on those at this point.  But it does make it sound like it's hard for stronger teams to get to the end.  There is at least, from what I can tell, a limit to the yield time of 15 minutes.  Also it seems all teams can yield, so can all teams u-turn as well, like in the recent vote for u-turn on the US version?  It can make it like Big Brother where teams can just decide who to target until they leave.  At this point there isn't a clear pattern to me, which is better.  Some teams near the back are targeting others near the back.  Some stronger teams have been yielded too.  Though some teams so far are obviously strong but aren't being targeted that much, such as Eyal and Sid and Haviv and Itzak.  Maybe the winners are those who just try and keep in the middle of the pack most of the time and just get along with everyone.  But people just trying to get along would be a boring race.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: MrKnowIrAll on July 23, 2019, 09:30:56 PM
I haven't seen earlier seasons, so don't want specific information on those at this point.  But it does make it sound like it's hard for stronger teams to get to the end.  There is at least, from what I can tell, a limit to the yield time of 15 minutes.  Also it seems all teams can yield, so can all teams u-turn as well, like in the recent vote for u-turn on the US version?  It can make it like Big Brother where teams can just decide who to target until they leave.  At this point there isn't a clear pattern to me, which is better.  Some teams near the back are targeting others near the back.  Some stronger teams have been yielded too.  Though some teams so far are obviously strong but aren't being targeted that much, such as Eyal and Sid and Haviv and Itzak.  Maybe the winners are those who just try and keep in the middle of the pack most of the time and just get along with everyone.  But people just trying to get along would be a boring race.

The legs of TARI are usually longer and contain more tasks so the yield/U-turn is not that effective as in other versions. In most season after two or three legs teams understand the system a bit better and start to coordinated the votes. Unfortunately, the outcome of this usually manifests in repeated yield/U-turn of the same teams over and over again. Typically, a sightly below average team (a team that is strong enough to overpower the"sheep to the slaughterer" type teams but not strong enough to be in front) is the victim of such strategy and find themselves out between 6h-4th place with the exception of Bar&Inna that were able to pull off a win with the help of two NELs.

Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on July 23, 2019, 10:12:25 PM
I haven't seen earlier seasons, so don't want specific information on those at this point.  But it does make it sound like it's hard for stronger teams to get to the end.  There is at least, from what I can tell, a limit to the yield time of 15 minutes.  Also it seems all teams can yield, so can all teams u-turn as well, like in the recent vote for u-turn on the US version?  It can make it like Big Brother where teams can just decide who to target until they leave.  At this point there isn't a clear pattern to me, which is better.  Some teams near the back are targeting others near the back.  Some stronger teams have been yielded too.  Though some teams so far are obviously strong but aren't being targeted that much, such as Eyal and Sid and Haviv and Itzak.  Maybe the winners are those who just try and keep in the middle of the pack most of the time and just get along with everyone.  But people just trying to get along would be a boring race.

The legs of TARI are usually longer and contain more tasks so the yield/U-turn is not that effective as in other versions. In most season after two or three legs teams understand the system a bit better and start to coordinated the votes. Unfortunately, the outcome of this usually manifests in repeated yield/U-turn of the same teams over and over again. Typically, a sightly below average team (a team that is strong enough to overpower the"sheep to the slaughterer" type teams but not strong enough to be in front) is the victim of such strategy and find themselves out between 6h-4th place with the exception of Bar&Inna that were able to pull off a win with the help of two NELs.

Two NELs and a FF (if I'm not mistaken)?
But I remembered at a point on the fifth season in Namibia that of all things, Yael & Yosiel completed the Detour (notice that they're being U-Turned) like faster than several of those who voted to U-Turn them (e.g. Shon & Kim), so I do agree for this kind of longer legs, it's like ineffective or something for those competent teams (unless there are other twists/more challenging tasks near the end of the leg... idk more).
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on July 24, 2019, 01:17:42 AM
Yes I considered the length of the legs and even toughness of tasks I've seen so far as definitely being a counter to the voting yields/u-turn element, and to me they are definitely one of the biggest pluses of this version. 

No obvious navigation so far, I did see teams in the back of taxis with maps, so I don't know if that means they are supposed to guide the drivers, I hope that's the case because it would definitely be an improvement on the normal use of taxis.

If there are at least some more surprise (because less regular) elements like non-eliminations or fast forwards that would be good.  I'd also assume these wouldn't be voted for.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: georgiapeach on July 24, 2019, 01:01:57 PM
If anyone can UPDATE live-time please feel free! We'd love it!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on July 24, 2019, 01:26:50 PM
If anyone can UPDATE live-time please feel free! We'd love it!

Wait if this is 9.26pm IDT already, then here we go! The fiffh episode, and the second part of the third leg (Unsure if I could watch it live on mobile while I'm completely outside Israel lol, but ofc I'll catch up later since it is Thursday 1.26am here in Indo).
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Post by: Maanca on July 24, 2019, 07:48:38 PM
I forgot this was today! HaMerotz and its crazy scheduling.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on July 24, 2019, 11:02:13 PM
I can't live update, but I can give quick and dirty recaps of the tasks they had to do.

If anyone was wondering, I don't update the wiki until the leg is over (Just to make it easier for myself and less confusing)

...

>Green Point Lighthouse
  Yield Reveal
  One rides on a spinning platform (like being attached to panes of windmill/propellor). Partner picks fruit and puts it in spinning one's mouth, who must then drop it in a basket. Parter puts basket there ahead of time, labelled with Afrikaans names for fruits (based on a key they should memorize). 8 fruits.
   ~~Orel gets sick and has to recover
>Castle of Good Hope
  Three-legged race, but with iron shackles, and drag two iron balls (ie cartoons) behind. Given a map of the castle, find the keys to unlock themselves. Can only pick up balls for stairs. Keys are scattered, and only one will open each team's lock.
   ~~Orel gets close to giving up
>Kraaifontein Recycling Facility
  (Next episode...)
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on July 25, 2019, 10:11:15 AM
I forgot this was today! HaMerotz and its crazy scheduling.

As always.
As far as I understood, until this week, they're airing every Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday, 9.15pm IDT. I thought it would be airing every Wednesday & Saturday (from what I've read on the banner of the HMLM section of Reshet's website) until I constantly saw the ads on Instagram and realized that it's three times a week instead of two.

Meanwhile, thank goodness it's three times a week. As far as I read, the Filipino version, they aired like everyday for several minutes or something, then continued with an hour recap of everything on Saturday. Oh welp.

Good luck keeping up with this season, guys!
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Post by: tatasport on July 27, 2019, 11:55:07 AM
Just a reminder, today (Saturday 9.15pm IDT) is the third part of the third leg of this season!
Now I don't know why that particular task reminded me to one of the tasks back then (is this the first modified Switchback I've been seeing or what?), and I wonder if things spiced up during. Or even more.

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The reference is HMLM 5 Prelim 1 when they had to look for the race flag something within all those trashes in the trash can–but this one in HMLM 7 looks more complicated than HMLM 5 Prelim 1. Idk if my memory is right but it reminded me to it.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on July 27, 2019, 05:01:40 PM
Hated the latest elimination

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Bahira eliminated because of a bad taxi, that's worse than going out just by a luck based challenge to me.  I guessed they wouldn't go far, all the teams at the back haven't dragged themselves up much in this race, plus Kamle and Bahira haven't had much of an edit either.  It feels like the first two eliminations have been decided by bad luck.

The main drama this week was obviously Nisim and Orel and Aviad and Eden.  Eden somehow is more funny though, there's more entertainment there.  Nisim seems to see the humour in things more, Orel just seems moany.

At least at the waste recycling place there was some attention to detail needed as well as luck,  the castle needed some navigation but there was a lot of luck in finding the right location first. 

Most of the placement changes may even have been dependent on whether you had a good taxi driver or not, Eyal and Sid dropped some places because of that it seemed.

Karin was funny, crashing into a camera and then being surprised she'd fallen asleep on her partner in the car it seemed.

Not sure why Ran and Ben had a 15 minute penalty.

I still find Haviv and Itzak boring, their singing (and dancing) is less natural somehow than with Tali and Gili.  They shout annoyingly or act camp in the confessionals.

favourite teams:  Eyal and Sid (Sid, the smaller one, has a funny voice at times to me), Tali and Gili, Ariel and Karin (mainly for Karin), Aviad and Eden.
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Post by: Gra1162 on July 27, 2019, 05:13:04 PM
Rooting for Michal & Omer <3
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Post by: Xoruz on July 27, 2019, 06:21:50 PM

Karin was funny, crashing into a camera and then being surprised she'd fallen asleep on her partner in the car it seemed.

Not sure why Ran and Ben had a 15 minute penalty.

That was pretty funny.

Ran & Ben were Yielded in a previous episode.

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For as long as Hamerotz legs are, it usually comes down to the last task. It was surprising to see Kamle & Bahira have such bad luck in the drive to the Pit Stop, so I wasn't expecting their elimination.
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Post by: G.B. on July 27, 2019, 07:35:18 PM
Another luck task right before the Pit Stop. And at a very scenic waste management plant. Beautiful.

Let me clarify: I don't really care if there's a luck task before the Pit Stop. It's the fact that, for the last two seasons, EVERY leg has a luck task before the Pit Stop. It's become standard for this show, and I really really don't like it. This is the third leg in a row, and I'll bet anything that it's just going to continue.

For almost a decade, I have always told people that TAR Israel is the best version of the show. It's my favourite by far. This trend of luck tasks is docking some serious points to this show in my books. If it continues, I honestly don't know if I can keep calling it the best version. It's not right, it's not fair, and it's not entertaining to watch

...Especially when it's in a waste management plant.
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Post by: tatasport on July 28, 2019, 12:58:02 AM
Another luck task right before the Pit Stop. And at a very scenic waste management plant. Beautiful.

Let me clarify: I don't really care if there's a luck task before the Pit Stop. It's the fact that, for the last two seasons, EVERY leg has a luck task before the Pit Stop. It's become standard for this show, and I really really don't like it. This is the third leg in a row, and I'll bet anything that it's just going to continue.

For almost a decade, I have always told people that TAR Israel is the best version of the show. It's my favourite by far. This trend of luck tasks is docking some serious points to this show in my books. If it continues, I honestly don't know if I can keep calling it the best version. It's not right, it's not fair, and it's not entertaining to watch

...Especially when it's in a waste management plant.

And now I don't know why I randomly missed watching a certain season
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lemme say it's season 5 (one of the most memorable seasons I've watched, personally)
... and yes I hope the next legs don't have luck before the Pit Stop (or put it somewhere else in the leg, or... whatever, just the penultimate task in that leg don't be all luck, if the trend looks like that). It's just, I feel there's something odd, really.

*Disclaimer: I didn't watch most of the sixth season before, just reading the Wiki out of it, and if that is true, then I hope this changes.
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Post by: tatasport on July 28, 2019, 12:59:31 AM
But overall, the start of the fourth leg will be aired on Wednesday (9.15pm IDT it seems?), so now I hope it reverted back to the twice in a week mode. Whoa.
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Post by: tatasport on July 28, 2019, 01:14:38 AM
Hated the latest elimination

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Bahira eliminated because of a bad taxi, that's worse than going out just by a luck based challenge to me.  I guessed they wouldn't go far, all the teams at the back haven't dragged themselves up much in this race, plus Kamle and Bahira haven't had much of an edit either.  It feels like the first two eliminations have been decided by bad luck.

The main drama this week was obviously Nisim and Orel and Aviad and Eden.  Eden somehow is more funny though, there's more entertainment there.  Nisim seems to see the humour in things more, Orel just seems moany.

At least at the waste recycling place there was some attention to detail needed as well as luck,  the castle needed some navigation but there was a lot of luck in finding the right location first. 

Most of the placement changes may even have been dependent on whether you had a good taxi driver or not, Eyal and Sid dropped some places because of that it seemed.

Karin was funny, crashing into a camera and then being surprised she'd fallen asleep on her partner in the car it seemed.

Not sure why Ran and Ben had a 15 minute penalty.

I still find Haviv and Itzak boring, their singing (and dancing) is less natural somehow than with Tali and Gili.  They shout annoyingly or act camp in the confessionals.

favourite teams:  Eyal and Sid (Sid, the smaller one, has a funny voice at times to me), Tali and Gili, Ariel and Karin (mainly for Karin), Aviad and Eden.

Indeed! Most of the placement changes depended on either the taxi driver's competence or the detail skills needed in that part of the leg because the mark is very small
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(comparing to the fifth season first Prelims, I guess? Omg why I started to remember that season again).
--therefore even if it is luck, it is also about paying attention to details as well. I seeeee.....
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Post by: Musicon on July 28, 2019, 03:43:37 AM
The taxi driver seemed happy so I wonder if he was just making it a longer journey to get more money.

I liked getting the episodes three times a week.

I was wondering about the wiki, thanks for the work on that.



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Post by: tatasport on July 30, 2019, 12:33:07 PM
It is Wednesday here in Indo where I live, friendly reminder: on 9.15pm IDT, the fourth leg will begin! Whoa. Can't wait to see what the first part of this leg looked like...
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Post by: Xoruz on July 31, 2019, 05:06:49 PM
Ben & Ran asking their Cape Town cab to take them to Batoka Sky has to be the new "Arctic Circle, you know."  :funny:

Probably goes without saying but the microlight task was way better than TAR 27.

The crocodiles biting off Ariel's pole. :o

Had to be demoralizing for Tali & Gili to struggle with the Double Battle after they were the crocodile whisperers. If was nice for Ben & Ran to give them the win, but the amount of bad luck they had on the task after that was unbelievable.
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Post by: G.B. on July 31, 2019, 09:41:05 PM
Quick recap of tasks:

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>Fly to Livingstone, ZAMBIA
>Batoka Sky / Batoka Land / Maramba Aerodrome(?)
  One team member is given an incomplete map of the area. The other is flying above in a microlight and must describe the area over radio, so map can be completed using a collection of pieces. 15 minutes refuelling after landing.
>Livingstone Reptile Park
  Use sticks to feed the crocodiles, while also using a magnetic stick to grab 5 green, 5 red, 5 blue hanging cards. Food is tied on string hanging down from magnetic stick.
    ~Michel refuses to do the task involving raw meat (I think she's vegan?). Omer has to do it herself. At first Michel refuses to even enter the crocodile park, but later comes along for support.
>Chundukwa River Lodge
  HEAD2HEAD: Teams will be tied up in a net ('coccoon') hanging from a rope, must use a stick with a saw on the end to cut through 10 ropes nearby. One of these is the rope holding them up, and when cut will free them. But, one of these will set their opponents free. Then they can put on wings and become a butterfly.
    ~Ben & Ran see a demotivated Tali & Gili and surrender the H2H win to them as a gesture of good faith. Karma is taking the day off, because they lose every other subsequent match until the final one against M&O
>Batoka House
  Yield Vote
>Simdonga Village Tourism Trust Limited Skills Center, Simonga
  ...

The editors decided to be confusing on this episode. They constantly cut back to a welcome sign for the Zimbabwean city of "Victoria Falls", just across the border, which clearly features a Zimbabwe flag nearby.

If anybody knows where the heck this "Batoka House" is, let me know. Apparently it was important enough to be noted as established in 1993?

Poor Fia & Tey have been Yielded. WHERE ARE THE U-TURNS??
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Post by: Xoruz on July 31, 2019, 09:54:32 PM

The editors decided to be confusing on this episode. They constantly cut back to a welcome sign for the Zimbabwean city of "Victoria Falls", just across the border, which clearly features a Zimbabwe flag nearby.

If anybody knows where the heck this "Batoka House" is, let me know. Apparently it was important enough to be noted as established in 1993?

Poor Fia & Tey have been Yielded. WHERE ARE THE U-TURNS??

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they go to Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe later in the season.


Let's add more confusion. Batoka Sky was established in 1993, so the Batoka House is a building that's part of the aerodrome.

Was that last part a reference to Karin's flub?
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Post by: G.B. on August 01, 2019, 12:33:10 AM
Karin is cute.
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Post by: tatasport on August 01, 2019, 03:12:20 AM
Karin is cute.

Indeed she is!
I stan the team, I see them as one of the potential dark or wild horses... from what I saw so far (fight me on this in a way lel).
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Post by: Musicon on August 01, 2019, 04:10:11 AM
To need u-turns you need detours I'm assuming.  Detours are good as teams have less idea of exactly where they are in the race and sometimes there's the drama of them having to switch.

Omer's the brunette, right?  Was she afraid of the crocodiles as she wasn't doing that part where you feed the meat and take the cards.  Tali and Gili worked out the way to do it was to get one to feed them, while the other took the cards.  As they were all together the others around them at the time probably saw that too.
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Post by: G.B. on August 01, 2019, 04:25:32 AM
Omer's the brunette, right?  Was she afraid of the crocodiles as she wasn't doing that part where you feed the meat and take the cards.  Tali and Gili worked out the way to do it was to get one to feed them, while the other took the cards.  As they were all together the others around them at the time probably saw that too.

Michal is the brunette.

I translated one block of text from her, and she was saying the exact same thing Talia said back in Season 3 when they had to eat meat in Spain. The whole "I don't see it as flesh, I see it as part of a living creature's body" deal.
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Post by: ImANewUser on August 02, 2019, 08:00:23 AM
tbh I wanted the waste management plant to shake the placings up *more* than it actually did; it made that entire episode pointless because it was basically a non-impactful task as it is (if they're gonna do luck tasks, make it absolute #gamechangers)
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Post by: tatasport on August 03, 2019, 12:42:05 AM
And the second part of the Zambian leg is today! Saturday 9.15pm IDT on Reshet.
(Yes it's twice a week, Wednesday-Saturday up until this point).

Whoa.
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Post by: G.B. on August 03, 2019, 10:39:48 PM
Why don't they just have teams run the whole leg, and then draw numbers out of a hat to decide what place they're in?

It did tickle me pink that they centred a task around the 10 trillion dollar bill from Zimbabwe. I want one of those for my collection.
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Post by: fossil-racer on August 03, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
Half of the FF teams are gone  :'(
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Post by: Gra1162 on August 03, 2019, 11:49:13 PM
OMG NOOOOO Yehudit & Zohar  :'( :'( :'(

hopefully, the next few elimnations are M/F and ,M/M

still rotting for Michal & Omer
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Post by: tatasport on August 03, 2019, 11:54:28 PM
And surprisingly there'll be an episode TODAY! Wut? (As far as I understood, מחר means tomorrow and that pertains to Sunday, which is today here in Indo).

For the fifth leg, they're going to
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a third African country, Zimbabwe. Is it the first of its kind of having three African legs? Wow.
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Post by: Maanca on August 04, 2019, 12:15:51 AM
Tatasport: Not really. Old school US TAR routes used to.
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Post by: tatasport on August 04, 2019, 12:40:17 AM
Tatasport: Not really. Old school US TAR routes used to.

Cool! How I miss the old school US for several reasons now.
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Post by: ImANewUser on August 04, 2019, 07:10:14 AM
Why don't they just have teams run the whole leg, and then draw numbers out of a hat to decide what place they're in?
I only *wish* that happened; that luck task did next-to-nothing to shake things up and I'm very disappointed lol :(
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Post by: G.B. on August 05, 2019, 08:47:34 PM
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a third African country, Zimbabwe. Is it the first of its kind of having three African legs? Wow.

Third African leg, not really, that happened just in Israel Season 5 (Two Namibia and then Tanzania). Third African COUNTRY, though, that's a little more rare.  TAR10 went to Mauritius, Madagascar and Morocco. Unless you count Season 1's visit to South Africa, or Season 5's visit to Kenya, then I believe that's all there is.

The editors were a bit all over the place with this episode. For the casual viewer, it doesn't really matter, but for TAR detectives trying to determine where they went, it's confusing.

Karin & Ariel leave the train station, and it shows a shot of them leaving Kubu Zambezi...which was back in Zambia from last leg.

Eyal & Sid arrive at the Head-to-Head, which is at the Shoestrings Backpacker's camp from TAR27, and there's a random shot of the unrelated Ko Mpisi Village.

The Yield is shown after the Head-to-Head, but I'm almost certain it's located BEFORE the Head-to-Head at the train station.

Oy...
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Post by: tatasport on August 07, 2019, 07:41:34 AM
Whoa. Oh yes I remember those being third African leg but not third African country either. Welp.
Now that I'm trying to catch the episode up (that's okay guys I like to flip to me finding out why), don't forget that the second part of this leg today (Wed 9.15pm IDT)!
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Post by: Maanca on August 07, 2019, 03:33:16 PM
And we're not doing with Africa yet! Because next leg is

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Post by: Xoruz on August 07, 2019, 07:03:59 PM
And we're not doing with Africa yet! Because next leg is

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Mauritius

Too much Africa is never a bad thing, especially when they're showing 3 different sides of the continent.

Not sure who thought letting dizzy people throw spears was a good idea considering Nisim almost hit a cameraman.
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Post by: G.B. on August 07, 2019, 08:25:38 PM
I give up. This season sucks.

I have no excitement, no tension, no connection to any of the competition going on on-screen whatsoever. I know it'll all just be invalidated by the mandatory luck-based task right before the Pit Stop.

Fey & Tia should have won this leg, with their brilliant spear-throwing and mastery of the water-balancing task, to completely overcome the Yield. But RNG decided against that.

Eden & Aviad should have been eliminated after such a huge catastrophic failure at the water-balancing task. But RNG decided against that.

How can I say this season is good, if somebody comes up to me and asks "How did [Eliminated team] get eliminated in Zimbabwe?" and all I can tell them is RNG

ImANewUser, I respect your differing opinion and I'm not going to be ridiculous and say "I'm right you're wrong" or anything like that, but I just cannot see where you're coming from at all. Nothing matters until the very end. Literally nothing matters. There's no point in being skillful. There's no punishment for being unskillful. Nothing besides GOD decides who wins and who is eliminated. That is not interesting to watch.

~~~

On an unrelated note, I wonder if the Detour actually literally went extinct on this season. Last season (Season 6) only had TWO Detours through the whole Race, and we haven't seen any yet. What a strange production choice...
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Post by: Maanca on August 07, 2019, 09:31:45 PM
I feel G.B.'s frustration. Once in a while, maybe, but HaMerotz ends like every leg with a luck task now. It's taking away from the reputation it had for having some of the greatest tasks of the Amazing Race franchise.
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Post by: G.B. on August 07, 2019, 09:35:52 PM
I feel G.B.'s frustration. Once in a while, maybe, but HaMerotz ends like every leg with a luck task now. It's taking away from the reputation it had for having some of the greatest tasks of the Amazing Race franchise.

Some may disagree with me on this, but I feel like even the first leg in Israel ended with a luck task. You're in Tel Aviv, the one of the biggest cities in Israel, and you gotta find a person flying out the next day. How are you gonna figure that out without randomly asking every single person?

(https://i.imgur.com/Z4XFAwe.png)
Lookit that! It made a *derp*ing shoelace!!
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Post by: G.B. on August 07, 2019, 11:17:46 PM
Somebody PLEASE help me find Ko Mpisi Village...

Despite so many tourists and tour companies going there, I can't find a single trace of this thing anywhere on maps. All I know is it's 20 minutes outside the city of Victoria Falls...
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Post by: Musicon on August 08, 2019, 06:42:47 AM
So the eliminations so far
injury
taxi
taxi
luck task (though you could say all these so far have a large element of luck)

I'm happy Aviad and Eden survived anyway.  The drama switched to them and Ariel and Karin, so at least some different teams were involved in the suspense.

The last 3 eliminations were predictable once it got down to the end of the leg as they obviously haven't had much of an edit compared to the others.

I find it hard to believe the blonde was in an elite army unit, she's the weaker of the two.  Though in the crocodile task I thought the other one just put the meat on the sticks anyway, so that needn't have delayed them.  I was puzzled when Ran and Ben kept losing at the butterfly challenge as they seemed to cut some ropes. 

Tia and Fay still being targeted.  Orel still moaning and taking out resting time, so far she's got away with it.  Tali and Gili finding the head to heads tough, but doing ok otherwise.  The balancing task did look like it was more about speed and those who just tried to knock people over had the wrong approach most of the time.  It was funny when Aviad seemed to get knocked off easily though.  Getting the clue by radio message was cool, and it was funny seeing Ran and Ben listen to the English language broadcast thinking that was the message.

The earlier you arrive at a more luck based task the less need of luck I guess.  The soap task was probably the most luck based so far,  though it sounded like it was some kind of exfoliating soap so there was some discomfort that they had to quickly accept to find the token quicker.  Some didn't have as much skin exposed to use the soap on.
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Post by: ImANewUser on August 08, 2019, 08:27:12 AM
ImANewUser, I respect your differing opinion and I'm not going to be ridiculous and say "I'm right you're wrong" or anything like that, but I just cannot see where you're coming from at all. Nothing matters until the very end. Literally nothing matters. There's no point in being skillful. There's no punishment for being unskillful. Nothing besides GOD decides who wins and who is eliminated. That is not interesting to watch.
I actually get where you're coming from and I get your point; the thing for me is that there is *no* elimination thus far that hasn't felt telegraphed that it feels odd to blame the season's lack of stakes on the end-of-leg luck tasks now of all seasons when every other season has had the luck tasks be far more consistently impactful on the boot order (the luck tasks actually do their work and shake things up; the problem is just that the shake-up basically reverts things back to where teams were at the end of the prior episode  :groan:)

Noy & Hadar lost due to injury, and Kamle & Bahira, Yehoudit & Zohar and Ran & Ben all telegraphed to me as teams doomed to lose early with or without the luck task so even if, in the case of Ran & Ben, they would have survived without the luck task it doesn't bother me because they'd be gone soon regardless (and also I can't in good conscience actually root for an outcome here that leaves us with Aviad & Eden eliminated in 9th place)

PS: yes Tia & Fay were robbed of first place, but I wouldn't feel bad about it at all if it was, like, Michal & Omer / Gili & Tali who managed to nab first place instead
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Post by: tatasport on August 08, 2019, 09:21:22 AM
Now as far as I understood, for the next leg...
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1. It'll be aired next Wednesday.
2. FIRST DETOUR OF THE SEASON! (I understood from the part of "pa'am rishona baonah, mashimet tzomet (?)" Oh Detours, where have you been; the last time I watched there are still some of it. Shall I expect a U-Turn voting now?
Welp, season 7, just welp :v
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Post by: PAHC on August 08, 2019, 10:32:34 AM
Hi, recent discoverer of this forum and an Israeli here.

Some notes about the prevalence of luck tasks at the end of legs:

We in Israel have a tendency to root for the underdogs, whether it be in a reality show or otherwise - as we can personally relate to them on some levels. Luck tasks bring a fun twist to the legs, as they help underdog teams such as Tali and Gili or Nisim and Orel catch up and pass some teams.

Besides, luck tasks are a way to spark some drama. If a team sees a team which yielded/U-turned them in the final task, there's usually a lot of tension between the two as they race to finish the task and to reach the pitstop, which can lead the yielded team to "break" if passed by teams which yielded them.

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Also yeah, Tata, there will be a detour next leg. Between some sort of a task with armadillos and bananas, and a task with turtles, it seems?
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Post by: Maanca on August 08, 2019, 11:00:36 AM
Hi, recent discoverer of this forum and an Israeli here.

Some notes about the prevalence of luck tasks at the end of legs:

We in Israel have a tendency to root for the underdogs, whether it be in a reality show or otherwise - as we can personally relate to them on some levels. Luck tasks bring a fun twist to the legs, as they help underdog teams such as Tali and Gili or Nisim and Orel catch up and pass some teams.

Besides, luck tasks are a way to spark some drama. If a team sees a team which yielded/U-turned them in the final task, there's usually a lot of tension between the two as they race to finish the task and to reach the pitstop, which can lead the yielded team to "break" if passed by teams which yielded them.

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Also yeah, Tata, there will be a detour next leg. Between some sort of a task with armadillos and bananas, and a task with turtles, it seems?

Welcome :)

That's a very good point, actually.
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Post by: Musicon on August 08, 2019, 02:59:22 PM
I  think some of the more normal tasks have helped create drama anyway, if they want to make tasks less physical and to have more mental elements there are ways to do that.  The head to heads seem to be made too physical for Gili and Tili for example.  Yields are already a means to go after a stronger team, though they are getting repetitive in this, double u-turns are one of the other ways to do that.  Self navigation is a great way to create natural drama based on mental and not physical strength but it isn't used.  The luck based task is becoming a repetitive formula when put in at the end of every leg.  There's definitely some support for underdogs here, including from me.  But those at the back haven't really lifted themselves up much in this race so far. 
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Post by: G.B. on August 08, 2019, 04:06:45 PM
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I was puzzled when Ran and Ben kept losing at the butterfly challenge as they seemed to cut some ropes.

One of the ropes, when cut, would free the other team.

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Hi, recent discoverer of this forum and an Israeli here.

Some notes about the prevalence of luck tasks at the end of legs:

We in Israel have a tendency to root for the underdogs, whether it be in a reality show or otherwise - as we can personally relate to them on some levels. Luck tasks bring a fun twist to the legs, as they help underdog teams such as Tali and Gili or Nisim and Orel catch up and pass some teams.

Besides, luck tasks are a way to spark some drama. If a team sees a team which yielded/U-turned them in the final task, there's usually a lot of tension between the two as they race to finish the task and to reach the pitstop, which can lead the yielded team to "break" if passed by teams which yielded them.

You know, just recently I was asking myself "I wonder how the actual Israeli audience feels about this". I can definitely see where you're coming from and I do understand your point. The big, major problem is how OFTEN this happens. Having a luck task directly before the Pit Stop is (to me, anyway) a little bit iffy but whatever, I'll deal with it. But somewhere like six to eight of the last season's legs ended with one, and so far every single leg of this season has ended to one. That's what I mean when I say that skill is unrewarded. There hasn't been a leg yet where one can just simply "do well and win".

On a lighter note, where in Israel are you from? As time goes on, the land of Israel fascinates me more and more. I swear it's not going to be long until I just 'accidentally' learn how to speak Hebrew.
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Post by: PAHC on August 08, 2019, 04:36:43 PM
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On a lighter note, where in Israel are you from? As time goes on, the land of Israel fascinates me more and more. I swear it's not going to be long until I just 'accidentally' learn how to speak Hebrew.

Oh, near Tel-Aviv. Currently living somewhere in the big metropolis near the coast.
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Post by: Musicon on August 08, 2019, 04:40:48 PM
It sounds like the butterfly task had a luck element as well then.  And in that case completely random luck given by another team, unless it was explained to them that one rope would help the other team and it was possible to see where the ropes connected to.

I think you always need to have teams who have some kind of competence.  The main thing is just to balance the nature of the tasks so different kinds of competence are rewarded, such as more mental challenges to balance the physical, head to heads not just being physical.  Or at least not have a huge gaps of ability in the race, having people at a similar level of competence/incompetence.
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Post by: PAHC on August 08, 2019, 05:03:26 PM
It sounds like the butterfly task had a luck element as well then.  And in that case completely random luck given by another team, unless it was explained to them that one rope would help the other team and it was possible to see where the ropes connected to.

It actually was possible to see where the ropes connected to, with some teams, such as Eyal and Sid, actually trying to work out where the ropes lead to in order to get an advantage, and indeed, one rope helping the other team was actually explained. :)

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Besides, the ropes' order was not changed at all from one H2H to another. Ben and Ran just made the same mistake every time and dropped a lot as a result.
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Post by: tatasport on August 08, 2019, 08:59:45 PM
Hi, recent discoverer of this forum and an Israeli here.

Some notes about the prevalence of luck tasks at the end of legs:

We in Israel have a tendency to root for the underdogs, whether it be in a reality show or otherwise - as we can personally relate to them on some levels. Luck tasks bring a fun twist to the legs, as they help underdog teams such as Tali and Gili or Nisim and Orel catch up and pass some teams.

Besides, luck tasks are a way to spark some drama. If a team sees a team which yielded/U-turned them in the final task, there's usually a lot of tension between the two as they race to finish the task and to reach the pitstop, which can lead the yielded team to "break" if passed by teams which yielded them.

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Also yeah, Tata, there will be a detour next leg. Between some sort of a task with armadillos and bananas, and a task with turtles, it seems?

I see! Indeed it creates drama–well even the normal tasks are getting dramatic now as far as I saw it? Double U-Turn like season 3 might work, but it'd be completely massive if there are ties as frequent as season 6 (2 teams, wow).

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Ducks and turtles, as far as I saw it. Hope Detour gets more frequent now.
I sometimes feel several tasks are Roadblock-worthy, but guess the organizers saved the hardest/most challenging ones for it, causing more frequent Route Infos (?)

Anyway, thanks for the perspective and bruchim habaim shel RFF!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on August 08, 2019, 09:22:13 PM
Considering several people have talked about it, here's my thoughts. I don't mind luck tasks when there's an element of skill on top of luck. I thought the stone tower task was one of the better examples because of the stacking element. The trash task was the worst because it was pure luck (though that was negated by a traffic accident). The soap task wasn't the best because the speed they complete the task is dependent on the soap and how fast it dissolves, so Ben & Ran really didn't have a chance. The increased frequency so far compared to the past couple of seasons is a little annoying. At the same time, I'm someone who likes to see some shakeup in placement during the final task, and I don't mind if there is an element of luck to the final task but it has to remain an element and not the whole task.

Also, you guys do know that the animals shown in the preview are
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dodos & Aldabras (2 animals from Mauritius). Not sure where armadillos & ducks came from.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 08, 2019, 09:56:47 PM
Considering several people have talked about it, here's my thoughts. I don't mind luck tasks when there's an element of skill on top of luck. I thought the stone tower task was one of the better examples because of the stacking element. The trash task was the worst because it was pure luck (though that was negated by a traffic accident). The soap task wasn't the best because the speed they complete the task is dependent on the soap and how fast it dissolves, so Ben & Ran really didn't have a chance. The increased frequency so far compared to the past couple of seasons is a little annoying. At the same time, I'm someone who likes to see some shakeup in placement during the final task, and I don't mind if there is an element of luck to the final task but it has to remain an element and not the whole task.

Also, you guys do know that the animals shown in the preview are
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dodos & Aldabras (2 animals from Mauritius). Not sure where armadillos & ducks came from.

Oh wow.
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Those animals are completely cool!
Meanwhile that's a good point as well. Luck gets too frequent although things shaking every end of the task are just fine. Yep, let it be an element in a way is better–like the stone tower thing. Interesting point there.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on August 08, 2019, 09:58:03 PM
GB every time there's a luck task before the pit stop be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oTIjvw_-8
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Post by: jfarbzz on August 08, 2019, 10:17:50 PM
Also I’d like to point out that Ran from Ben & Ran looks a lot like TAR blogger Logan “supacoowacky” Saunders.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 10, 2019, 05:55:24 AM
From what I've understood, the reason why the next leg will be aired next Wednesday is because until tomorrow (on Sunday), Tisha B'Av (a Jewish holiday, fasting as far as I remember, for the destruction of the ancient Temple) is observed. All right.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: PAHC on August 10, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
From what I've understood, the reason why the next leg will be aired next Wednesday is because until tomorrow (on Sunday), Tisha B'Av (a Jewish holiday, fasting as far as I remember, for the destruction of the ancient Temple) is observed. All right.

Partly, actually! The main reason is because of a special report concerning some new leads found to a yet unsolved murder case. :/

[Can I say that here, actually?]
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on August 10, 2019, 05:26:05 PM
From what I've understood, the reason why the next leg will be aired next Wednesday is because until tomorrow (on Sunday), Tisha B'Av (a Jewish holiday, fasting as far as I remember, for the destruction of the ancient Temple) is observed. All right.
Yeah I’m Jewish and tomorrow is a fast day. This and Yom Kippur are the two major fast days on the Jewish calendar, where you have to fast a full 25 hours. There are other less serious fasts throughout the year that start in the morning and end at night, kinda like Ramadan.

Also love your picture, Josie & Alex are right up there with Daniel & Eliyahu for my favorite HaMerotz team.
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Post by: G.B. on August 10, 2019, 08:35:05 PM
I just learned that Alexa (Season 4) and Josie (Season 5) were both on a recent season of Survivor Israel! I would've loved to see how Josie handled that, haha!

I already knew beforehand that Tiltil (Season 4) was also on an earlier season.
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I believe he won!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 10, 2019, 09:47:57 PM
I just learned that Alexa (Season 4) and Josie (Season 5) were both on a recent season of Survivor Israel! I would've loved to see how Josie handled that, haha!

I already knew beforehand that Tiltil (Season 4) was also on an earlier season.
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I believe he won!

Well I watched Tiltil's season from the middle...
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yes Tiltil won but now I'm curious what happened to them both in VIP 9 lol since I only watched a glimpse but not in full. I read some thanks to Wikis but ofc I'm curious on their gameplays! Their season concluded just like days before HMLM 7's premiere, explaining my curiosity.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 10, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
From what I've understood, the reason why the next leg will be aired next Wednesday is because until tomorrow (on Sunday), Tisha B'Av (a Jewish holiday, fasting as far as I remember, for the destruction of the ancient Temple) is observed. All right.

Partly, actually! The main reason is because of a special report concerning some new leads found to a yet unsolved murder case. :/

[Can I say that here, actually?]

Oof.
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Which case, anyway? That recent stabbing (that's new, sadly) or is it different?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 10, 2019, 09:50:37 PM
From what I've understood, the reason why the next leg will be aired next Wednesday is because until tomorrow (on Sunday), Tisha B'Av (a Jewish holiday, fasting as far as I remember, for the destruction of the ancient Temple) is observed. All right.
Yeah I’m Jewish and tomorrow is a fast day. This and Yom Kippur are the two major fast days on the Jewish calendar, where you have to fast a full 25 hours. There are other less serious fasts throughout the year that start in the morning and end at night, kinda like Ramadan.

Also love your picture, Josie & Alex are right up there with Daniel & Eliyahu for my favorite HaMerotz team.

Whoa, thanks! I root for them in their respective seasons as well as several other teams :D
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Post by: jfarbzz on August 10, 2019, 11:53:13 PM
Tiltil was also on a season of Israeli Big Brother along with Neta from HaMerotz 6, which means he completed the TAR/Survivor/BB trifecta before any American did.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 11, 2019, 05:30:05 AM
Tiltil was also on a season of Israeli Big Brother along with Neta from HaMerotz 6, which means he completed the TAR/Survivor/BB trifecta before any American did.

Indeed. Although...
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in the end he didn't get admitted to the house due to not completing the missions as far as I read?
, at the very least we've got a Trifecta–albeit not a US version. Well well well...
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Post by: tatasport on August 14, 2019, 03:19:04 AM
Tonight (9.15pm IDT)! The first part of the leg.
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And as guessed, finally, U-TURN!!!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: redskevin88 on August 14, 2019, 07:21:50 AM
From what I've understood, the reason why the next leg will be aired next Wednesday is because until tomorrow (on Sunday), Tisha B'Av (a Jewish holiday, fasting as far as I remember, for the destruction of the ancient Temple) is observed. All right.
Yeah I’m Jewish and tomorrow is a fast day. This and Yom Kippur are the two major fast days on the Jewish calendar, where you have to fast a full 25 hours. There are other less serious fasts throughout the year that start in the morning and end at night, kinda like Ramadan.

Also love your picture, Josie & Alex are right up there with Daniel & Eliyahu for my favorite HaMerotz team.

Sorry for being off-topic, but isn't a day only 24 hours long?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on August 14, 2019, 03:47:52 PM
A Detour at last!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 14, 2019, 05:55:26 PM
The bird detour definitely looked much more difficult to me, you couldn't drop and the leaves were easier to pick up.  I guess silly costumes are a tradition on this version (the penguins on the earlier leg), and they can be funny.  The twins definitely blew up here, I've no idea why they had that idea of holding the water bottle differently to everyone else.  They are long legs at least, but I thought double u-turns were the modern way now.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on August 14, 2019, 06:10:52 PM
The dodo task was definitely harder and made even more difficult for teams that tried to transfer the eggs in the air, but having a person on your back for a bit of time probably wasn't appealing to a lot of teams.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on August 14, 2019, 10:35:34 PM
From what I've understood, the reason why the next leg will be aired next Wednesday is because until tomorrow (on Sunday), Tisha B'Av (a Jewish holiday, fasting as far as I remember, for the destruction of the ancient Temple) is observed. All right.
Yeah I’m Jewish and tomorrow is a fast day. This and Yom Kippur are the two major fast days on the Jewish calendar, where you have to fast a full 25 hours. There are other less serious fasts throughout the year that start in the morning and end at night, kinda like Ramadan.

Also love your picture, Josie & Alex are right up there with Daniel & Eliyahu for my favorite HaMerotz team.

Sorry for being off-topic, but isn't a day only 24 hours long?
Jewish holidays are weird. Like they start at sundown and end when three stars are visible in the sky.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on August 14, 2019, 10:36:35 PM
Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 14, 2019, 10:43:40 PM
Okay, so this season has now set TWO new records!

Most African countries visited in a season: 4 (Previous record-holder, TARUS season 10, Mauritius, Madagascar, Morocco)
Most legs in Africa in a single season: 5 (Previous record-holder, TAR Norway season 2, 2x South Africa, 2x Namibia)

Anyway, here is the best picture I could get of the U-Turn voting board location (https://i.imgur.com/uXbRvBp.png), and I need somebody to help me figure out where it is. It looks like some villa, and it's likely near Riambel but maybe not. If anybody finds it, let me know!!  :conf:

Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...

Last season, during the preview for the Pit Stop leg in Jamaica, the host still said "You've been eliminated", but that one turned out to be a non-elimination leg, so the previews lied to keep it a secret.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on August 15, 2019, 08:30:49 AM
Anyway, here is the best picture I could get of the U-Turn voting board location (https://i.imgur.com/uXbRvBp.png), and I need somebody to help me figure out where it is. It looks like some villa, and it's likely near Riambel but maybe not. If anybody finds it, let me know!!  :conf:

Club Nautique de Pointe d'Esny (https://www.google.com/maps/@-20.426884,57.7273337,3a,31.3y,284.24h,99.57t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOhqyKpIxEjJSn1KAB6g_gMx3pxA9_9vl61gpoG!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOhqyKpIxEjJSn1KAB6g_gMx3pxA9_9vl61gpoG%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya19.607773-ro-0-fo100!7i10240!8i5120)
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 15, 2019, 10:36:45 AM
Wait now I just saw an ad the next part of this leg will be aired this Sat? Amazing.
*will catch up sure enough, idk why this leg looks interesting yet intriguing to me
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 15, 2019, 03:52:45 PM
Anyway, here is the best picture I could get of the U-Turn voting board location (https://i.imgur.com/uXbRvBp.png), and I need somebody to help me figure out where it is. It looks like some villa, and it's likely near Riambel but maybe not. If anybody finds it, let me know!!  :conf:

Club Nautique de Pointe d'Esny (https://www.google.com/maps/@-20.426884,57.7273337,3a,31.3y,284.24h,99.57t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOhqyKpIxEjJSn1KAB6g_gMx3pxA9_9vl61gpoG!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOhqyKpIxEjJSn1KAB6g_gMx3pxA9_9vl61gpoG%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya19.607773-ro-0-fo100!7i10240!8i5120)

I don't think that's it. The roof is different.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on August 15, 2019, 04:48:10 PM
Anyway, here is the best picture I could get of the U-Turn voting board location (https://i.imgur.com/uXbRvBp.png), and I need somebody to help me figure out where it is. It looks like some villa, and it's likely near Riambel but maybe not. If anybody finds it, let me know!!  :conf:

Club Nautique de Pointe d'Esny (https://www.google.com/maps/@-20.426884,57.7273337,3a,31.3y,284.24h,99.57t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOhqyKpIxEjJSn1KAB6g_gMx3pxA9_9vl61gpoG!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOhqyKpIxEjJSn1KAB6g_gMx3pxA9_9vl61gpoG%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya19.607773-ro-0-fo100!7i10240!8i5120)

I don't think that's it. The roof is different.

They have the same logo. Plus, all teams were shown getting out of their cars at the same spot as the U-Turn board before they were shown reading the clue on Pointe d'Esny Beach.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 16, 2019, 01:59:20 PM
Okay, so this season has now set TWO new records!

Most African countries visited in a season: 4 (Previous record-holder, TARUS season 10, Mauritius, Madagascar, Morocco)
Most legs in Africa in a single season: 5 (Previous record-holder, TAR Norway season 2, 2x South Africa, 2x Namibia)

Anyway, here is the best picture I could get of the U-Turn voting board location (https://i.imgur.com/uXbRvBp.png), and I need somebody to help me figure out where it is. It looks like some villa, and it's likely near Riambel but maybe not. If anybody finds it, let me know!!  :conf:

Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...

Last season, during the preview for the Pit Stop leg in Jamaica, the host still said "You've been eliminated", but that one turned out to be a non-elimination leg, so the previews lied to keep it a secret.

I suddenly got reminded of season 5 and even more surprising. Not only in preview but in reality.
"(team name), you're the last team to arrive. I'm sorry to tell you that you're eliminated ftom the Race. (hands over a card) This is the prize you'll receive." (so they rub that card or something containing the prize; but for NEL, it'll be written like "Congratulations, you're still in the Race!" and Sir Shahar will announce that that particular leg is a NEL.

Idk if they should revive this but to me, that looks nerve-wracking yet surprising in terms of NELs, that when we rub the card (with a coin, usually), we thought we'll receive a prize until they say it's a NEL :v
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 16, 2019, 02:05:07 PM
And that water bottle task reminded me to a Detour that no one completed (Milk or Honey, the Milk option) from season 4 (first Prelim I guess). Only one team tried that, as far as I remember, but they also didn't make it, so they switched the Detour. Uhm.

Oh why do my memory keep switchbacking?!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 17, 2019, 12:44:42 AM
Did  Eyal and Sid switch places in the tortoise task at some point?

I much prefer Nisim to Orel,  like when he was rolling his eyes at her when she switched from laughing to crying during a confessional.  It's hard to root for this team with Orel.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 17, 2019, 01:29:35 PM
Did  Eyal and Sid switch places in the tortoise task at some point?

I much prefer Nisim to Orel,  like when he was rolling his eyes at her when she switched from laughing to crying during a confessional.  It's hard to root for this team with Orel.

They did. They stopped at one left, then Sid is below Eyal, so they switched, I can confirm.
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Post by: tatasport on August 17, 2019, 01:30:59 PM
And now, the second part of the sixth leg airs (Sat 9.15pm IDT, it should be 9.30pm IDT from the point I wrote this post). All right.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on August 17, 2019, 04:02:30 PM
So, another leg in Mauritius?

And another leg ended with a luck task :P
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 17, 2019, 10:39:50 PM
This sucks.

If I weren't a die-hard fan who is working on documenting all of this, then this would be the moment where I give up and completely stop watching. This is just a joke at this point. E&A did not deserve to win this leg. Last place did not deserve to be in last place.

I just sat there with this grim, un-enthused look on my face for the whole second half of the episode. Not a hint of joy. I will not be recommending this season to anybody.

And this was the WORST luck-based task thus far. Man, it's SO much fun watching teams dig through slimy grimy sugarcane mulch looking for a race flag the size of a  :dick ing fingernail.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 17, 2019, 11:44:33 PM
By the way, the show's map identifies them as flying from Harare to Mauritius, but I doubt that. I don't look at the spoiler threads. Do we have any spoiler photos of them leaving the area through the Livingstone Airport?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on August 18, 2019, 03:59:20 AM
Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...
Called it! And THANK GOD, Tia & Fay are the best team this season. For the record, this was the last NEL of the season. Ron told Nissim & Orel that they got the first of two, now he told Tia & Fay they got the last one.
Also speaking of righteous NELs, I happened to subtitle the most righteous NEL in HaMerotz (and maybe even franchise?) history a while back, I know tatasport in particular will appreciate this: https://streamable.com/20vcr
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: redskevin88 on August 18, 2019, 04:49:56 AM
By the way, the show's map identifies them as flying from Harare to Mauritius, but I doubt that. I don't look at the spoiler threads. Do we have any spoiler photos of them leaving the area through the Livingstone Airport?

Check out Wikipedia. They just claimed Livingstone for Zimbabwe.  :groan:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 18, 2019, 05:20:47 AM
By the way, the show's map identifies them as flying from Harare to Mauritius, but I doubt that. I don't look at the spoiler threads. Do we have any spoiler photos of them leaving the area through the Livingstone Airport?

Check out Wikipedia. They just claimed Livingstone for Zimbabwe.  :groan:

No, they're claiming that they went back over the border to the Livingstone Airport to depart, because this is exactly what teams did on TAR27. I just want to know if there's any proof of this from spoilers, because the SHOW says they flew form Harare. I at first thought maybe they had just been moved to a Harare hotel during the Pit Stop, but one of the taxis right before heading to the airport still says "Victoria Falls".
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: bottle on August 18, 2019, 05:46:46 AM
I am enjoying this season so much. Love Tali/Gili , Nisim and Orel and some others too like Mechal and Omer.  For me it's one of the best seasons  :conf: :)x
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Post by: Gra1162 on August 18, 2019, 05:58:08 AM
gooo michal and omer
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on August 18, 2019, 07:36:45 AM
By the way, the show's map identifies them as flying from Harare to Mauritius, but I doubt that. I don't look at the spoiler threads. Do we have any spoiler photos of them leaving the area through the Livingstone Airport?

Check out Wikipedia. They just claimed Livingstone for Zimbabwe.  :groan:

No, they're claiming that they went back over the border to the Livingstone Airport to depart, because this is exactly what teams did on TAR27. I just want to know if there's any proof of this from spoilers, because the SHOW says they flew form Harare. I at first thought maybe they had just been moved to a Harare hotel during the Pit Stop, but one of the taxis right before heading to the airport still says "Victoria Falls".

No airport photos, but teams were shown crossing the border back to Zambia (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Department+of+Immigration+Zimbabwe+-+Victoria+Falls+Border+Post/@-17.9263073,25.8492824,22a,37.3y/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNyGsZiYoxqu9PxHQCFcfUj62L971YkV-UKvBGG!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNyGsZiYoxqu9PxHQCFcfUj62L971YkV-UKvBGG%3Dw203-h270-k-no!7i3096!8i4128!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x194fe53f0d97964b:0xb5064359416ab317!2sVictoria+Falls,+Zimbabwe!3b1!8m2!3d-17.9318052!4d25.8255575!3m4!1s0x194fe559cd447479:0xf9c181521e8643a0!8m2!3d-17.9263847!4d25.8491832) at the start of the leg.

Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: ImANewUser on August 18, 2019, 09:37:34 AM
ok so can someone explain how the eff Aviad & Eden / Haviv & Itzhak started this episode ahead because idgi

funnily enough I disagree with G.B. about this season's flaws, but agree on the overall sentiment; we really can't expect the luck tasks this season to do their flipping job for once and actually give us a good last-minute shake-up huh :dick

that being said, the cast is still good, the worst teams of the season (who I still like) were not leaving with or without that luck task, and this is still far from the worst TAR season we've seen so *shrug*
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Post by: PAHC on August 18, 2019, 11:47:22 AM
Well, this is the first final task I can outright say was awful. I personally am not a fan of Tia and Fey, but they sure as hell didn't deserve to fall from 2nd (after a U-Turn, no less!) to last.
The task itself was also inherently bad. Its scenery was, let's say... not the greatest. And its entire premise was both not fun to watch and probably very unenjoyable for the teams to go through.

I definitely agree with G.B. about this one.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on August 18, 2019, 12:01:22 PM
I left a comment on HaMerotz’s Instagram page in Hebrew that said:

“I’m a Jew from America that also loves the American race, and I have a question: Why does every leg end with a luck task? Do you guys in Israel like seeing this? All the tasks before are meaningless because everything can get mixed up in a task that the teams have no control over. I just wanted to know what you guys in Israel thought because the American race doesn’t have this. Also, what happened to the intro at the start of every episode? There was in intro with all the teams in seasons 1-5, but there wasn’t in season 6 or this season. Does this bother you like it bothers me?”

Curious to see if I get any responses.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 18, 2019, 12:32:49 PM
The dancing (though it was no doubt judged very leniently) was by far the best part of the latest episode, definitely funny with Eden's ballet and some others.  The last task was like they were running out of ideas of how to do another luck based task.  Fey, the smaller one, is quite dramatic and sassy - I much prefer her to Tia.  I don't see anyone as villains, the game allows you to just target the same people so it's natural to do that, you get less blood on your hands.  I'd blame the rules for just making it too easy to do that. 
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 18, 2019, 05:31:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4nVmay8.png)

Here is the best shot we have of the clue directing teams to the sugarcane field. Wikipedia identifies it as a field somewhere in Bel Air Rivière Sèche. However, you can see written on the clue "Off B8 La Baraque" which, as far as I can tell, is nowhere near Bel Air. It's located near Rivière-des-Anguilles, and you can see "Anguilles" in the clue as well. It's a bit confusing that "Bel Air" is written in the clue as well, so my best guess was that the name of the property was Bel Air something something Sugarcane, while it was located in Rivière-des-Anguilles.

Thoughts? Disagreements?

Also, can somebody update the Wikipedia page for the sugar mill and change it to Savannah Sugar Factory. I'm 99% sure that's the correct place. Satellite imagery of this location perfectly matches the brief establishing shot during the daytime.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on August 18, 2019, 05:50:49 PM
^^
Double checked.

Sugarcane field is Bel Air Estate. (http://belair.mu/the-estate/)

Savannah Sugar Factory is owned by Omnicane and also calls it the La Baraque Sugarcane Mill. (http://www.omnicane.com/business-locatons/omnicane-limited)
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 18, 2019, 07:44:25 PM
Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...
Called it! And THANK GOD, Tia & Fay are the best team this season. For the record, this was the last NEL of the season. Ron told Nissim & Orel that they got the first of two, now he told Tia & Fay they got the last one.

Why would they spoil the suspense for viewers over the rest of the season?  I'd bet most viewers like suspense, like me.  I don't really want to know what happens in advance of a leg, I like to guess during legs.
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Post by: jfarbzz on August 19, 2019, 10:56:06 AM
Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...
Called it! And THANK GOD, Tia & Fay are the best team this season. For the record, this was the last NEL of the season. Ron told Nissim & Orel that they got the first of two, now he told Tia & Fay they got the last one.

Why would they spoil the suspense for viewers over the rest of the season?  I'd bet most viewers like suspense, like me.  I don't really want to know what happens in advance of a leg, I like to guess during legs.

I mean they just did that with TAR31, Phil said multiple times there would be no more NELs after the final 7.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 19, 2019, 04:35:11 PM
Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...
Called it! And THANK GOD, Tia & Fay are the best team this season. For the record, this was the last NEL of the season. Ron told Nissim & Orel that they got the first of two, now he told Tia & Fay they got the last one.

Why would they spoil the suspense for viewers over the rest of the season?  I'd bet most viewers like suspense, like me.  I don't really want to know what happens in advance of a leg, I like to guess during legs.

I mean they just did that with TAR31, Phil said multiple times there would be no more NELs after the final 7.

I don't like it whenever it's done.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 20, 2019, 07:46:01 AM
Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...
Called it! And THANK GOD, Tia & Fay are the best team this season. For the record, this was the last NEL of the season. Ron told Nissim & Orel that they got the first of two, now he told Tia & Fay they got the last one.
Also speaking of righteous NELs, I happened to subtitle the most righteous NEL in HaMerotz (and maybe even franchise?) history a while back, I know tatasport in particular will appreciate this: https://streamable.com/20vcr

YESH I DID REMEMBER THAT! I cut that scene on my laptop and rewatched it a few times (especially at a game I played as them coincidences happened so many times before it aired including this), omg yes! How I miss season 5 so much now.

ps: Toda though for subtitling, almost the same with how I understood it!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 20, 2019, 10:42:05 AM
Prediction: this will be a non-elimination leg. Usually during previews for a pitstop we hear Ron say "I'm sorry but you've been eliminated." But this time we heard him say "you're the last team to arrive." Hmm...
Called it! And THANK GOD, Tia & Fay are the best team this season. For the record, this was the last NEL of the season. Ron told Nissim & Orel that they got the first of two, now he told Tia & Fay they got the last one.
Also speaking of righteous NELs, I happened to subtitle the most righteous NEL in HaMerotz (and maybe even franchise?) history a while back, I know tatasport in particular will appreciate this: https://streamable.com/20vcr

YESH I DID REMEMBER THAT! I cut that scene on my laptop and rewatched it a few times (especially at a game I played as them coincidences happened so many times before it aired including this), omg yes! How I miss season 5 so much now.

ps: Toda though for subtitling, almost the same with how I understood it!

Well actually after that moment the quote from my signature came from. That NEL.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 20, 2019, 09:34:20 PM
As far as I see the promos, it's the first part of the seventh leg tonight (9.15pm IDT, it's Wednesday already here in Indo and indeed back in Israel).
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Welp, I thought this is the point when they air recap eps, or will it be non-existent, kept till the end or Final 6, or something (let's see throughout this season for that).
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 21, 2019, 06:02:09 PM
Did finding the right key involve any skill?  The food task had some strategy at times I suppose but watching people puke and stuffing food down isn't entertaining to me.  The word task did seem more mental skill at least, what was/were the word(s) they were trying to find?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on August 21, 2019, 06:14:09 PM
Did finding the right key involve any skill?  The food task had some strategy at times I suppose but watching people puke and stuffing food down isn't entertaining to me.  The word task did seem more mental skill at least, what was/were the word(s) they were trying to find?

Teams had a blown-up picture of the correct key on their chest and had to look through the jars to find the right one. Teams had to unscramble the letters to form a well-known landmark: the vegetable market.

Anyone averse to the sound of people gagging probably won't like that last task though I felt bad for some contestants for the amount of food they had to eat in ten minutes. It was also almost identical to the Romanian Double Battle from season 5.

The editors inserting a daydream for Karin of a leg win.  :funny: 
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 21, 2019, 11:19:42 PM
"Oh look! They're doing the food-bluffing task that was on TAR China Season 4, when they were in Denmark. That was a neat task that involved some mind games, so this should be neat. All right, it looks like Haviv & Itzak won the first match

"...What?! It's BEST OF THREE? Oh, go **** yourself, WHY?! That's disgusting. That's just vile."

Yeah, no thanks. Who's grand ****ing idea was it to make the eating task a best of three?! The original task, when it first appeared in TAR China, was hard enough as the losers often already had a full belly, but then they would use that to their advantage to try and play mind games with the next team. This is just awful. This is like medieval torture. Nobody can or should ever have to eat that much food. I'm pretty sure at some point it becomes harmful to one's health.

Meanwhile, I wonder why both teams were hooked up to the pulley system when only one team member had to carry the letters across the poles... (Ie, Karin was all suited up, but never did anything)
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 22, 2019, 07:21:10 AM
Maybe they could switch who went across the poles.

What I do like is so far I haven't seen teams helping each other.  I can image on the US/CAN version that a team would ask help from others on the word puzzle and might be given it by someone.  Maybe there are rules against that which would be good.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 22, 2019, 09:26:23 AM
Did finding the right key involve any skill?  The food task had some strategy at times I suppose but watching people puke and stuffing food down isn't entertaining to me.  The word task did seem more mental skill at least, what was/were the word(s) they were trying to find?

I didn't get a picture of the question or something, but the thing I understood is
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שוק הירקות / the vegetable market (shuk hayerakot; I guessed the last word after I realized there is no such 'yeroket' while there are no other letter (I refer to the letter vav or ו) to build 'yerukot' during A&K's attempt)
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 22, 2019, 10:15:21 AM
Did finding the right key involve any skill?  The food task had some strategy at times I suppose but watching people puke and stuffing food down isn't entertaining to me.  The word task did seem more mental skill at least, what was/were the word(s) they were trying to find?

Teams had a blown-up picture of the correct key on their chest and had to look through the jars to find the right one. Teams had to unscramble the letters to form a well-known landmark: the vegetable market.

Anyone averse to the sound of people gagging probably won't like that last task though I felt bad for some contestants for the amount of food they had to eat in ten minutes. It was also almost identical to the Romanian Double Battle from season 5.

The editors inserting a daydream for Karin of a leg win.  :funny:

That daydream is basically my favorite part ever (aside of that Romanian nightmare back in season 5, or any equivalent skits) #oof :funny:

(Can't wait to see the second part of the leg this Sat IDT on how this leg ended like... that's, welp.)
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 24, 2019, 11:18:29 AM
Tonight! Who'll be eliminated on the second part of the seventh leg... (9.15pm IDT that is)
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And the promo said like 'before leaving Africa', does it mean this season's going to visit that country
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Nepal
soon?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on August 24, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
Yes. That is where they're going next.

And I am ecstatic!!!
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Post by: Xoruz on August 24, 2019, 03:31:23 PM
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How did Eyal & Sid get into two close footraces in Mauritius? There must be something in the water.

The fact that we're getting episodes next weekend in Nepal & North Korea is something I never thought imaginable.  :jumpy:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: PAHC on August 24, 2019, 03:43:15 PM
Well, this was a fun episode.

MAJOR spoilers below!!

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First of all, I actually really liked the final challenge this leg! Despite relying on luck, you could complete it without doing so if you figure out that the clue itself takes up some space. We saw teams such as Eden and Aviad actually try to do that, and it worked out.

Tali and Gili, my favorites by far, managed to place third again!! Despite a weak leg, it's nice to see them finally get ahead after that... odd setback leaving the detour last leg.

Tia and Fay got a well-deserved redemption, which is always great. They seem to have learned a bit from the last leg, so I'm happy for them.

Also, next episode's in Nepal! That might be interesting.
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Post by: Gra1162 on August 24, 2019, 07:31:25 PM
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Noooooo Michal and Omer  :'(
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 24, 2019, 09:58:25 PM
Meh, you all know what I'm going to say at this point...
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Post by: bottle on August 25, 2019, 01:10:18 AM
Tali and Gili  :2hearts: :2hearts:
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Post by: tatasport on August 25, 2019, 02:17:05 AM
At the very least...
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...the competence of sorting letters also matter. Oof?
I should congratulate
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Tia & Fay
for placing first! Admire them for their determination after the F8 NEL, and even without the Speed Bump they nailed the leg! Mazal tov, this team grows on me now!

Nepal here we come!
Interested with this leg, along with North Korea for Vietnam 6 leg 9.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 25, 2019, 06:30:23 AM
With spoiler tags it's best to indicate what they relate to, if just this episode I'll open, if for later things or other seasons I won't.

The end was obviously harking back to an earlier US season.

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Rob and Amber - first all stars I think it was, I didn't like it then either.  A good team eliminated just by bad luck.

The edit teased me with the hope that the twins would be eliminated.  It seems the norm for teams to just take time out from tasks at times, and they seem to get away with it.

I think for most it's good to have the double suspense of a race to the mat and the confirmation of it being a non-elimination.  The close race is good, but unless you want to know what happens in advance you don't get anything from knowing that's all the suspense you'll get.

There was less picking up all the food and stuffing it in their mouths and more use of knives and forks.  Funny seeing the last team just enjoying the food they could in the 15 minute delay.

They seem to use Israeli music as a means of highlighting this as Amazing Race Israel, but the music showcased hasn't been that good imo.

I was wondering what the conversation between Tali and Gili and Nisim and Orel at the food was about.  I know they have had some problems before, Tali saying she wouldn't be Nisim's mother when they were held up by a yield.
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Post by: PAHC on August 25, 2019, 03:31:11 PM
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They seem to use Israeli music as a means of highlighting this as Amazing Race Israel, but the music showcased hasn't been that good imo.

It's not really a showcase of Israeli music, rather a random pool of Hebrew songs vaguely relating to a task or country - as Israelis would be able to relate to the music better.

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I was wondering what the conversation between Tali and Gili and Nisim and Orel at the food was about.

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Basically, Tali and Gili realized that Michal and Omer were next to perform the Double Battle - and seeing as they're models, T&G assumed they wouldn't be able to eat much. They decided to try asking Nisim and Orel if they'd be able to forfeit the Double Battle against them.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 25, 2019, 04:38:16 PM

It's not really a showcase of Israeli music, rather a random pool of Hebrew songs vaguely relating to a task or country - as Israelis would be able to relate to the music better.

I didn't mean that it's a showcase of music, more that it just makes it a more Israeli program, and I assume that's one of the purposes doing that.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on August 25, 2019, 10:22:50 PM
Here's something to consider: what's the penalty for quitting a task on HaMerotz? I'm pretty sure we only saw it once back in season 2, it was iirc two hours? Because if I was on the race and near the front of the pack, the minute I saw there was a luck task right before the pitstop I would just quit and go to the pitstop, knowing some teams may probably take longer than the penalty time to complete the task. Unless that's not allowed...
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on August 25, 2019, 10:42:13 PM
I honestly don't think it's allowed, except for injury and forfeiting the Head-to-Head. Nobody ever quits tasks, and there's never any time penalties. It seems like production on this show watches contestants and won't let them move on until they do it, and do it right.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 26, 2019, 05:11:16 AM
I honestly don't think it's allowed, except for injury and forfeiting the Head-to-Head. Nobody ever quits tasks, and there's never any time penalties. It seems like production on this show watches contestants and won't let them move on until they do it, and do it right.

And this is the most likely why, after dramatic and tension-istic expressions (it's more like they wanna give up at some point), teams re-tried, and they've done that task. Did I understand that correctly?!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on August 26, 2019, 06:14:02 AM
Of course there can be leniency in some kinds of tasks, the dancing task recently for example wasn't judged that hard.  And if someone is at the back and about to be eliminated maybe they just let them go to the end than wait forever.
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Post by: tatasport on August 27, 2019, 03:30:54 AM
Hang on...
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This Wednesday, there'll be kind of a recap ep about the racers' behind the scene as we saw like on HMLM's Insta, so they recorded things in between tasks or something... whoa! This looks exciting to me in a way, since usually the race's stacked with all those tasks etc. etc.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on August 27, 2019, 11:55:28 AM
Oh, yeah, I guess it's about that time in the season, isn't it? A spoiler tag isn't really necessary for that :P
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Post by: tatasport on August 28, 2019, 06:27:03 PM
Oh, yeah, I guess it's about that time in the season, isn't it? A spoiler tag isn't really necessary for that :P

Oops :D
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Post by: Musicon on August 28, 2019, 07:02:38 PM
So filler episode then (in the style of US BB), so they only have one a season?
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Post by: tatasport on August 28, 2019, 09:52:53 PM
So filler episode then (in the style of US BB), so they only have one a season?

Or sometimes, two (the one near Season Finale something).
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Post by: toanglobal on August 28, 2019, 10:33:56 PM
I haven't seen earlier seasons, so don't want specific information on those at this point.  But it does make it sound like it's hard for stronger teams to get to the end.  There is at least, from what I can tell, a limit to the yield time of 15 minutes.  Also it seems all teams can yield, so can all teams u-turn as well, like in the recent vote for u-turn on the US version?  It can make it like Big Brother where teams can just decide who to target until they leave.  At this point there isn't a clear pattern to me, which is better.  Some teams near the back are targeting others near the back.  Some stronger teams have been yielded too.  Though some teams so far are obviously strong but aren't being targeted that much, such as Eyal and Sid and Haviv and Itzak.  Maybe the winners are those who just try and keep in the middle of the pack most of the time and just get along with everyone.  But people just trying to get along would be a boring race.

The legs of TARI are usually longer and contain more tasks so the yield/U-turn is not that effective as in other versions. In most season after two or three legs teams understand the system a bit better and start to coordinated the votes. Unfortunately, the outcome of this usually manifests in repeated yield/U-turn of the same teams over and over again. Typically, a sightly below average team (a team that is strong enough to overpower the"sheep to the slaughterer" type teams but not strong enough to be in front) is the victim of such strategy and find themselves out between 6h-4th place with the exception of Bar&Inna that were able to pull off a win with the help of two NELs.

Two NELs and a FF (if I'm not mistaken)?
But I remembered at a point on the fifth season in Namibia that of all things, Yael & Yosiel completed the Detour (notice that they're being U-Turned) like faster than several of those who voted to U-Turn them (e.g. Shon & Kim), so I do agree for this kind of longer legs, it's like ineffective or something for those competent teams (unless there are other twists/more challenging tasks near the end of the leg... idk more).
But I remember that in this leg (Leg 10 season 2), Bar & Inna had completed several tasks included the detour before took up a Fast forward
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on August 31, 2019, 01:41:51 PM
I haven't seen earlier seasons, so don't want specific information on those at this point.  But it does make it sound like it's hard for stronger teams to get to the end.  There is at least, from what I can tell, a limit to the yield time of 15 minutes.  Also it seems all teams can yield, so can all teams u-turn as well, like in the recent vote for u-turn on the US version?  It can make it like Big Brother where teams can just decide who to target until they leave.  At this point there isn't a clear pattern to me, which is better.  Some teams near the back are targeting others near the back.  Some stronger teams have been yielded too.  Though some teams so far are obviously strong but aren't being targeted that much, such as Eyal and Sid and Haviv and Itzak.  Maybe the winners are those who just try and keep in the middle of the pack most of the time and just get along with everyone.  But people just trying to get along would be a boring race.

The legs of TARI are usually longer and contain more tasks so the yield/U-turn is not that effective as in other versions. In most season after two or three legs teams understand the system a bit better and start to coordinated the votes. Unfortunately, the outcome of this usually manifests in repeated yield/U-turn of the same teams over and over again. Typically, a sightly below average team (a team that is strong enough to overpower the"sheep to the slaughterer" type teams but not strong enough to be in front) is the victim of such strategy and find themselves out between 6h-4th place with the exception of Bar&Inna that were able to pull off a win with the help of two NELs.

Two NELs and a FF (if I'm not mistaken)?
But I remembered at a point on the fifth season in Namibia that of all things, Yael & Yosiel completed the Detour (notice that they're being U-Turned) like faster than several of those who voted to U-Turn them (e.g. Shon & Kim), so I do agree for this kind of longer legs, it's like ineffective or something for those competent teams (unless there are other twists/more challenging tasks near the end of the leg... idk more).
But I remember that in this leg (Leg 10 season 2), Bar & Inna had completed several tasks included the detour before took up a Fast forward

I see, thanks for reminding me about that.
And yes, after that recap and this ep airing atm, it'll also air this Sunday (whoa, another sudden announcement from what I saw on HMLM's official Insta). Enjoy the leg in Nepal, everyone!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on August 31, 2019, 03:10:04 PM
Oh no, here come the granola bars on HaMerotz, too. Take that, Clif Bar :lol:
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Post by: Xoruz on August 31, 2019, 03:11:52 PM
This has been a crazy day of firsts.

Did the granola industry buy out TAR? (No digs at TAR Canada, but I prefer Nature Valley over Clif) Also, probably not the best idea to put food in a place inhabited by moneys.  :funny:
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Post by: G.B. on August 31, 2019, 08:54:55 PM
Well, finally! I have no idea why Nepal has never been visited before now. It seems like such an obvious destination for a travel show like TAR... This was great. I had a lot of fun watching this one.

Though, I think the editors made a HUGE mistake during this episode.... (Possible elimination spoiler below)

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When teams are leaving Mauritius, there's a shot of Tia & Fey excitedly running to the airport's front door.

...the KATHMANDU airport's front door.

At least, I'm pretty sure. You can CLEARLY see Nepalese text written above the door. If so, this pretty much confirms that Tia & Fey survive the leg(s) in Nepal and will move on to the next country. I mean, really? Did they think nobody would notice that?
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Post by: Xoruz on August 31, 2019, 09:09:44 PM
Well, finally! I have no idea why Nepal has never been visited before now. It seems like such an obvious destination for a travel show like TAR... This was great. I had a lot of fun watching this one.

Though, I think the editors made a HUGE mistake during this episode.... (Possible elimination spoiler below)

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When teams are leaving Mauritius, there's a shot of Tia & Fey excitedly running to the airport's front door.

...the KATHMANDU airport's front door.

At least, I'm pretty sure. You can CLEARLY see Nepalese text written above the door. If so, this pretty much confirms that Tia & Fey survive the leg(s) in Nepal and will move on to the next country. I mean, really? Did they think nobody would notice that?

Definitely the reason why so many people, myself included, were happy to finally see a leg there. It's very reminiscent yet completely distinct to its neighbor to the south. Though, that step task seemed a little cruel.

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there was French (Porte 13) and Hindi on that door belonging to the Mauritian airport. Don't worry, it's not a spoiler.

https://www.viator.com/en-AU/tours/Port-Louis/Private-Departure-Transfer-Hotel-to-Mauritius-Airport/d4464-6559MRUHTLAPTPT
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Post by: Musicon on September 01, 2019, 02:59:47 AM
At the product placement stops (like the fruit mixer before) I'm assuming they have to stop for a specified period.  The interaction with the monkeys actually made the episode more enjoyable and the producers may have realised they would gravitate to the food stations as well.

I immediately thought the part that was badly thought out was having the puzzles right next to each other, I'm assuming there was a rule where you couldn't just go to another puzzle station and check but they were so close you could just look across anyway.

The twins were struggling at one point again but just a teaser once more, they are one of the more annoying teams I've seen.
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Post by: PAHC on September 01, 2019, 05:35:44 AM
Apparently there's also an episode today!
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Post by: Maanca on September 01, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
So another leg in Nepal? This was a city leg, hopefully the second one takes them more out into the country. I want to see them traversing some of those rugged mountain roads :)
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Post by: Musicon on September 02, 2019, 02:06:32 PM
So on the second episode of the weekend...


A task about Israel using tourists in Nepal?  Very strange.  Maybe they are trying to say they are promoting Israel, saying come here etc.

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Though I've liked Tali and Gili I would have preferred them going as I can't see them getting to the end.  I had a feeling they were way behind after the comment earlier, so the luck task at the end seemed to save them.  At least I wasn't spoiled like I thought I was and it looked close and tense.  Eden and Aviad went out with the same drama they ran the race.
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Post by: G.B. on September 02, 2019, 09:09:09 PM
Sigh...
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 02, 2019, 10:47:43 PM
Sigh...
What? I didn't think this luck task was that bad. Tia & Fay finished it before anyone else got there which is super rare for HaMerotz, plus it didn't directly eliminate a team.
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It's been a long time since we've seen elimination by Yield on HaMerotz, and the fact that Aviad & Eden got passed up by not one but two teams made it rather welcome for me. Not that I have anything against them, in fact I would have preferred Ariel & Karin to go, but it's one of those things that could only happen on HaMerotz so I'm kinda glad in a way!
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Post by: G.B. on September 02, 2019, 10:55:15 PM
Why is Wikipedia listing "Crowne Plaza Kathmandu-Soaltee" as a destination? Are there spoiler pics of an unaired location?

What? I didn't think this luck task was that bad.

Because it punished Karin & Ariel. They did so well in this leg and they got punished so hard. That's not fun to watch. But more than that, it's not so much a sigh that there's a luck task, but a sigh that there's STILL a luck task, and it's happening over and over and over and over and over again. If it wasn't after EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN LEG, I wouldn't be sighing so much.
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 02, 2019, 11:07:16 PM
Why is Wikipedia listing "Crowne Plaza Kathmandu-Soaltee" as a destination? Are there spoiler pics of an unaired location?

What? I didn't think this luck task was that bad.

Because it punished Karin & Ariel. They did so well in this leg and they got punished so hard. That's not fun to watch. But more than that, it's not so much a sigh that there's a luck task, but a sigh that there's STILL a luck task, and it's happening over and over and over and over and over again. If it wasn't after EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN LEG, I wouldn't be sighing so much.

Look I get that it's annoying but it's better to accept it alright? Neither of us are Israeli, and didn't PAHC say something that Israelis like watching teams have a chance to catch up? It's frustrating as a TAR fan, but you have to understand that it's a different culture that does different things so it's best to think of it from that angle.
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Post by: Musicon on September 02, 2019, 11:35:02 PM
Are luck tasks specifically an Israeli cultural thing?  Or is it just a producer's decision?  They didn't have them much before last season from what I've heard.
 
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I thought it probably did have an effect here, though I doubt anyone knows what the exact timings were.  It looked close enough to impact.
 

One thing that would help at least partly with luck tasks (though there is obviously still some luck) is if each team has their own patch to work through, as for example in the stones and the branches.  I'm not sure if that was the case with this task or not, but if they are just looking through the same pool of things then those that arrive later will have a smaller pool to look through.

Another general point is that because they get carried everywhere by taxis you'd think they'd be featured more, often you see a team that's obviously been delayed by a bad taxi but it wasn't shown, you have to infer it.  Taxis are just lottery drama but they may as well acknowledge it as much as the luck tasks.  But they often only concentrate on them in the final stretch to the pit stop.
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Post by: G.B. on September 03, 2019, 12:35:12 AM
I don't feel like I should have to understand or accept it, because this is new. Older seasons of TAR Israel were amazing, they were incredible, and they didn't have this nonsense. It's a formulaic thing now, and in my opinion that's a very bad thing. I don't think it's something to 'accept' because there was a better way beforehand, and I want them to go BACK.

Even just back in season 5, legs ended with: Roman Numerals math problem, observation task with dancers, African geography quiz, Who Wants to be a Millionaire, Facial recognition challenge, counting people in a crowd, and a hedge maze. The rest of the legs were luck tasks, but it wasn't on ALL of the legs so it was more acceptable.

The further back in time you go, the less luck based tasks before Pit Stops there are, and those are my favourite seasons!

Compared to season 7, legs ended with: luck, luck, luck, luck, luck, luck, luck... THAT is my problem.

Edit: Actually, here. I went back and graphed the whole thing out. This table shows the final task before the Pit Stop of each leg from all seasons. Green means it was not a luck task, while Red means it was a luck task. Orange means it's debatable, as the task is not inherently based around luck, but I feel luck has the most prominent influence on how the task is finished (This usually refers to tasks where people need to interact with locals; the luck-based part of the task in MY opinion is finding the one person out of the crowd who will agree to be on camera and participate). Seasons along the X axis, and legs of the race along the Y axis.

(https://i.imgur.com/3lPdJOa.png)
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Post by: Musicon on September 03, 2019, 02:53:37 AM
Looking at the wiki there was also an extra delay for being unlucky, if you picked the wrong sheet of paper you had to remake it.  I don't know whether there was much of a skill aspect to that or not where more worthy teams did better or whether it was just a time delaying task, and whether the time delays added up considerably.  I suppose the rocks also had a delay, where racers had to rebalance them.
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Post by: G.B. on September 03, 2019, 03:24:08 AM
I think the argument some people make is that some of these tasks have something skill-related to help balance out the luck. For example, rebalancing the rocks.

But does it really? However good or bad you are at rebalancing the rocks, total random luck will still decide if you have to rebuild 5 stacks or 50 stacks.
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Post by: Musicon on September 03, 2019, 03:55:58 AM
I just like to look at all potential angles that could impact things, I do think it's mainly luck.
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Post by: PAHC on September 03, 2019, 07:06:47 AM
I've actually realized why the luck tasks are so prevalent recently - there are 2 seasons being filmed at roughly the same time period. The luck tasks mostly stem from budgetary concerns, probably.

I don't think the public enjoying luck tasks in previous seasons would've led to such an impact.
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Post by: Xoruz on September 03, 2019, 07:47:12 AM
Why is Wikipedia listing "Crowne Plaza Kathmandu-Soaltee" as a destination? Are there spoiler pics of an unaired location?

Teams were shown running out of the hotel when they got their taxis at the start of the leg.

The paper task was trying to be another sandcastle task with remaking the paper, but the remaking aspect was pretty easy.

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The only surprising aspect of this episode was that the Yield had an impact.
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Post by: G.B. on September 03, 2019, 04:27:10 PM
Why is Wikipedia listing "Crowne Plaza Kathmandu-Soaltee" as a destination? Are there spoiler pics of an unaired location?

Teams were shown running out of the hotel when they got their taxis at the start of the leg.

Ohhhh, okay. I thought that was the airport, which was why I was so confused.
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 03, 2019, 09:10:31 PM
I'm rather curious how they got from Mauritius to Nepal. See I had a feeling there were no direct flights so I looked it up, and pretty much every flight has a stop in an Arab country, with the most direct route being just one connection through Dubai. Would they have Israelis go to Arab countries, even just for a layover?
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 04, 2019, 07:46:08 AM
I'm rather curious how they got from Mauritius to Nepal. See I had a feeling there were no direct flights so I looked it up, and pretty much every flight has a stop in an Arab country, with the most direct route being just one connection through Dubai. Would they have Israelis go to Arab countries, even just for a layover?
Update: it didn’t occur to me that they could possibly connect through Tel Aviv. There’s a direct flight from Mauritius to Tel Aviv, and a flight from Tel Aviv to Kathmandu that connects in Delhi. Maybe they did that, I’m curious if there’s a way to find out.
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Post by: tatasport on September 04, 2019, 09:04:59 AM
I'm rather curious how they got from Mauritius to Nepal. See I had a feeling there were no direct flights so I looked it up, and pretty much every flight has a stop in an Arab country, with the most direct route being just one connection through Dubai. Would they have Israelis go to Arab countries, even just for a layover?

As far as I read, the only time Israeli passport holders can enter UAE is by transit visa, otherwise I'm not sure if they're allowed entry (unless there are other circumstances, like competing: the last time I remember this was the case was at the judo championships something).

So it could be possible in a way, but I'm curious whether they layover in Dubai or somewhere else (e.g. New Delhi).

Anyway, there'll be an ep today for the first part of the ninth leg!
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Post by: ImANewUser on September 07, 2019, 07:49:55 AM
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Aviad and Eden :'( I like Ariel & Karin well enough, but I kinda wish they left this leg instead? lol
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Post by: Musicon on September 07, 2019, 08:15:48 AM
With the Wednesday episode...

The blindfold balancing task somehow wasn't that interesting, I suppose as a head to head they couldn't make it that difficult.

The yield strategy doesn't make sense to me, to keep in the race it makes sense to slow up those at the back but often they don't do that.  I wonder if the producers encourage them not to so that those at the back aren't left even further behind and it keeps things closer.

Orel's annoyed me from near the start and continues to.  Even when not shouting in some argument she lets out some loud silly shriek in a confessional.
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Post by: tatasport on September 07, 2019, 09:31:39 AM
With the Wednesday episode...

The blindfold balancing task somehow wasn't that interesting, I suppose as a head to head they couldn't make it that difficult.

The yield strategy doesn't make sense to me, to keep in the race it makes sense to slow up those at the back but often they don't do that.  I wonder if the producers encourage them not to so that those at the back aren't left even further behind and it keeps things closer.

Orel's annoyed me from near the start and continues to.  Even when not shouting in some argument she lets out some loud silly shriek in a confessional.

Drom what I saw this season, it is rare to see those targeting the back indeed. Sometimes by their voting pattern I kept making my own assumption/inference like "That's like a front vs. back so-called alliance" or "See, that looks like the 'alliance' broke seeing that pattern of vote, but then 'battle of alliances' returned despite its invisibility or is it just me?". Sometimes I also based them from what I infer in their 'voting confessional' or as the Race goes, like
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what happened between Tia & Fay and Eyal & Sid–while that pattern on yielding Tia & Fay wasn't there at several legs I also made my own inference that 'when the Yield or U-Turn, I forgot, turned to Aviad & Eden, I randomly inferred the front alliance has been broken'

My own inference during the votes might not be amusing in a way, sometimes or mostly confusing (I'm sorry for that), but in terms of votes like this I do like making (random, not really since there's a pattern) inferences, so if I understood it incorrectly, let me know! (Most of it are strategic votes if I inferred so yeah).
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Post by: tatasport on September 07, 2019, 09:33:14 AM
Oh, and the second part of the ninth leg is tonight (9.15pm IDT)! Game on!
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Post by: Xoruz on September 07, 2019, 03:24:34 PM
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Tali & Gili were such a fun team this year, so it was heartbreaking to see that they had the correct pot but didn't notice until it was too late.
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Post by: G.B. on September 07, 2019, 10:06:09 PM
Oh man, there was some fookery going on during this episode... See if you guys can help me figure out some of this...

1) I'm almost completely positive there was an unaired task after the mustard oil task. After completing the mustard task, no team is shown reading the name of the next destination. It just hard cuts to "Go get some nutritious snacks". Plus, the location of the Nature Valley product placement looks like a completely different area than the mustard task. It looks like old temple ruins. Can anybody identify this location?
2) The Yield voting board... Oy, this thing causes so much pain when trying to track locations. The show claims it was at the Norling Resort, but it's likely not...maybe? All teams except Nisim & Orel were shown taking their taxi FROM the Head-to-Head to get to the voting board, and were shown in their taxis again going TO the Norling Resort. But, on the other hand, Nisim & Orel finished serving their 15 minute penalty and then popped right over to the voting board, not shown taking a taxi at all. Was the board near the cricket stadium? It too looks like an old temple, so I'm doubtful. Can anyone identify THIS location?
3) Don't you love it when TAR identifies a location as "Rock-breaking spot"... The rocks task took place on what looks like a very old soccer/football field. I took some screens of a few identifying locations (https://i.imgur.com/7vzro2x.png) nearby. Two restaurants with blurry Nepali text, but what really caught my eye was that funky, colourful tower that was only a block away. I thought for sure I could find that one by googling, but didn't have much luck. Can anyone identify THIS location?
4) The final task with the pots took place at either "Kadrim Square" or "Kadarim Square", because Hebrew is fun. Neither of these gives me much results on Google, so... (You can probably see where this is going) Can anyone identify THIS location??
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Post by: Xoruz on September 07, 2019, 10:11:44 PM
The HaMerotz edit is so much fun.

1 & 2. Nature Valley and the Yield board were located inside the Kanti Bhairab Temple (also known as the Uttara Bahini Temple) with the mustard oil task in a rice field outside of the temple.

4. Pottery Square in Bhaktapur.
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Post by: G.B. on September 07, 2019, 10:47:12 PM
OH, is Kadrim a Hebrew word? I'm dumb.

Okay yeah, I see now what happened. Orel mysteriously loses the bandage on her arm after the Head-to-Head, which means the Yield vote actually took place after the mustard task. They just like to put it at the end of episodes for some reason. (Oh yes, especially because the resort is ACROSS THE STREET from the cricket ground)

EDIT: Oh yeah, and what was with that Detour being inside of a Blue Route Info clue??
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Post by: tatasport on September 08, 2019, 12:53:38 AM
OH, is Kadrim a Hebrew word? I'm dumb.

Okay yeah, I see now what happened. Orel mysteriously loses the bandage on her arm after the Head-to-Head, which means the Yield vote actually took place after the mustard task. They just like to put it at the end of episodes for some reason. (Oh yes, especially because the resort is ACROSS THE STREET from the cricket ground)

EDIT: Oh yeah, and what was with that Detour being inside of a Blue Route Info clue??

Good question. It's not that Vietnam 6 'forced Detour' with only one of four, right–instead it's two and Detour as always. And it's not a Blind one so... but I don't think there's a trick that they thought it'll be a Route Info task but then they have to choose so it's a Detour... hmm...
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Post by: Xoruz on September 08, 2019, 06:31:47 PM
I seriously loved this episode because it was all of the ridiculousness of HaMerotz LaMillion wrapped up into one episode. Tasks where teams have to interact with locals are always so much fun like when Karin has to ask if someone is rich and has their credit cards and has to reassure that she won't rob them or Nisim running around trying to measure people. We've seen VR tasks this year, but the fact that it was a FPS against mecha and zombies was so funny. Also, this is the only show I can think of that would do Twister on walls as a Double Battle.
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Post by: Maanca on September 08, 2019, 07:02:09 PM
All they really had to do for the one Detour was hit a gong loud enough with their partner? Seems easy.
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Post by: tatasport on September 09, 2019, 12:55:29 AM
OH, is Kadrim a Hebrew word? I'm dumb.

Okay yeah, I see now what happened. Orel mysteriously loses the bandage on her arm after the Head-to-Head, which means the Yield vote actually took place after the mustard task. They just like to put it at the end of episodes for some reason. (Oh yes, especially because the resort is ACROSS THE STREET from the cricket ground)

EDIT: Oh yeah, and what was with that Detour being inside of a Blue Route Info clue??

As far as I checked, if we refer to kadarim as in קדרים, it means pottery.
(Since I'm also learning, can anybody speaking it cross-check? Toda raba!)
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Post by: G.B. on September 09, 2019, 10:10:39 PM
I had a feeling they would be going back to China. The first three seasons visited Hong Kong, China and then Taiwan, but no visits since then. Night seemed to come pretty quickly, didn't it? Also, I'm so glad we finally have a leg where production doesn't give the teams taxi drivers.
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 09, 2019, 11:16:07 PM
The end of leg 9 might have been the best end result we've seen so far? Like yes it was a luck task, but luck didn't matter at all because the elimination was due to a mistake on the part of a team, which we almost never see on HaMerotz? Plus after Tia & Fay looked dead to rights AND THEN Nissim & Orel looked dead to rights, they both survive over a team that I didn't like nearly as much as those two.

Also can we agree that rock task was unfair because it punished teams that weighed more by making them do more work?
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Post by: bottle on September 11, 2019, 09:41:26 AM
Really happy Nisim and Orel survived. However,  :'( :'( :'( Gili and Tali  :'( :'( :'( I loved them so much. One of my all-time favorites. Sad they had to leave because of such a mistake but at least Nisim and Orel are still in it.  :woohoo:
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Post by: Maanca on September 11, 2019, 04:25:44 PM
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So the luck (tasks) finally ran out for the team saved on the first leg. They had a great run, though!
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Post by: Xoruz on September 11, 2019, 07:39:03 PM
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What a novel idea to not have a luck task at the end of the leg.

For how argumentative Nisim & Orel can get it's quite an accomplishment that they made it this far.
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Post by: G.B. on September 11, 2019, 10:20:54 PM
This was the best leg of the season thus far. Not even kidding. I really enjoyed every single task in Shanghai, including the last one. Fantastic leg, all around!

It was neat that they wrote out the contestants' names in Chinese during the Home Shopping Channel task, though there was a bit of weirdness.

Fey was 仙女 (Xiānnǚ) which literally means fairy, though that's where 'Fey' comes from in the first place.
Tia was 阮文绍 (Ruǎn Wénshào). I really don't know where this name comes from...?

Haviv was 善良 (Shànliáng) meaning kindness or kind-hearted. I believe that's the meaning of Haviv as well.
Itzak was 艾萨克 (Ài sà kè), which is "Isaac"

Karin was 卡琳 (Kǎ lín) and...
Ariel was 阿里尔 (Ā lǐ ěr), which matches their names...but the editors put the names under the wrong people! Oops! 卡琳 was under Ariel's head.

Nisim was 奇迹 (Qíjī), which means "miracle", also the base of Nisim's name (I should know, Google Translate kept spitting out "Miracle" when his name shows up, bleh...)
Orel was 口头 (Kǒutóu) which literally means "oral", as in "related to the mouth". I think something got a bit lost in translation here...

Eyal and Sid were 石灰 & 羚羊 (Shíhuī & Língyáng) meaning lime (as in, the fruit) and gazelle (as in the animal)...I have no idea which is which, or why these were picked.
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Post by: G.B. on September 12, 2019, 12:19:12 AM
WTF?? Google Maps for Shanghai is STILL screwed up! All of the streets and placemarks are off target.

This was broken back when TAR China 2 finished airing!! That was 2015!!!
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Post by: NELs on September 12, 2019, 09:07:32 AM
WTF?? Google Maps for Shanghai is STILL screwed up! All of the streets and placemarks are off target.

This was broken back when TAR China 2 finished airing!! That was 2015!!!

Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Di-UVC-_4&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Di-UVC-_4&t=1s), it explains why every map in China is wrong.
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Post by: ImANewUser on September 12, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
that was a good leg but tbh the entire time I felt that the issues present early this season re: boot order and predictability are still present even now; I literally could have skipped this episode and I'd have missed nothing except for Fay celebrating her birthday to ~Yom Huledet~ (all the Eurovision entries that keep getting airplay <3333)
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Post by: tatasport on September 14, 2019, 11:46:29 AM
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What a novel idea to not have a luck task at the end of the leg.

For how argumentative Nisim & Orel can get it's quite an accomplishment that they made it this far.

Indeed. And that's, wow. Even for me. Well done for the team.
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ps: This is a wild wish, but if there's a returnee season
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not that one that's already discussed somewhere in RFF
and organizers wanted to brought them back, ...I'm all right. That's because when it comes to voting, for example, especially since the first leg, people might think that "they're completely underdog, completely finished last in the first NEL so we could expect they'd be gone sooner or later" but then they went to Final 5--so they're not remarked as "vulnerable by consensus" and only handful of people voted for them without they being Yielded/U-Turned. If I'm confusing on this wish, just ask me, but my mind has gone pretty wild in this season at this point.

Can't wait for the next leg though. It'll be tonight IDT. And since it's Final 4...
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...there'll be no Yield, no U-Turn, and it all came down to how skillful the team is? Good luck teams!
And yes, the cutting of episodes are real (we're on ep22 rn while usually F4 take place at ep30-ish according to the last two seasons), idk why I love this form but not sure whether or not I feel something is missing or this pace is enough... anybody has a say on this?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on September 14, 2019, 03:14:02 PM
We're rapidly approaching the finale with another episode tomorrow.

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As someone whose been on the viewing deck of the Empire State Building, which was about the same height as the ledge teams were on. That task would have terrified me.

It was around the time we get the family chat, so that got emotional.

You can't curse, this is Disney. :funny:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on September 15, 2019, 02:53:04 PM
Well, "stinky tofu" is not a phrase I ever expected to add to my vocabulary.
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Post by: toanglobal on September 15, 2019, 09:54:04 PM
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What a novel idea to not have a luck task at the end of the leg.

For how argumentative Nisim & Orel can get it's quite an accomplishment that they made it this far.

Indeed. And that's, wow. Even for me. Well done for the team.
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ps: This is a wild wish, but if there's a returnee season
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not that one that's already discussed somewhere in RFF
and organizers wanted to brought them back, ...I'm all right. That's because when it comes to voting, for example, especially since the first leg, people might think that "they're completely underdog, completely finished last in the first NEL so we could expect they'd be gone sooner or later" but then they went to Final 5--so they're not remarked as "vulnerable by consensus" and only handful of people voted for them without they being Yielded/U-Turned. If I'm confusing on this wish, just ask me, but my mind has gone pretty wild in this season at this point.

Can't wait for the next leg though. It'll be tonight IDT. And since it's Final 4...
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...there'll be no Yield, no U-Turn, and it all came down to how skillful the team is? Good luck teams!
And yes, the cutting of episodes are real (we're on ep22 rn while usually F4 take place at ep30-ish according to the last two seasons), idk why I love this form but not sure whether or not I feel something is missing or this pace is enough... anybody has a say on this?
Is HMLM 7 still produced by ActiveTV? this season is shorter than five previous ones, plus this season contains many luck tasks before pitstop. Number of episodes per each season (recap excluded)
Season 1 had 20 episodes (2 per legs)
Season 2 had 27 episodes
Season 3 had 31 episodes
Season 4 had 34 episodes
Season 5 had 36 episodes
Season 6 had 40+ episodes
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on September 15, 2019, 10:00:58 PM
They filmed 7 and 8 back to back, so they couldn't go nuts with the length.
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Post by: claude_24hrs on September 15, 2019, 10:39:09 PM
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What a novel idea to not have a luck task at the end of the leg.

For how argumentative Nisim & Orel can get it's quite an accomplishment that they made it this far.

Indeed. And that's, wow. Even for me. Well done for the team.
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ps: This is a wild wish, but if there's a returnee season
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not that one that's already discussed somewhere in RFF
and organizers wanted to brought them back, ...I'm all right. That's because when it comes to voting, for example, especially since the first leg, people might think that "they're completely underdog, completely finished last in the first NEL so we could expect they'd be gone sooner or later" but then they went to Final 5--so they're not remarked as "vulnerable by consensus" and only handful of people voted for them without they being Yielded/U-Turned. If I'm confusing on this wish, just ask me, but my mind has gone pretty wild in this season at this point.

Can't wait for the next leg though. It'll be tonight IDT. And since it's Final 4...
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...there'll be no Yield, no U-Turn, and it all came down to how skillful the team is? Good luck teams!
And yes, the cutting of episodes are real (we're on ep22 rn while usually F4 take place at ep30-ish according to the last two seasons), idk why I love this form but not sure whether or not I feel something is missing or this pace is enough... anybody has a say on this?
Is HMLM 7 still produced by ActiveTV? this season is shorter than five previous ones, plus this season contains many luck tasks before pitstop. Number of episodes per each season (recap excluded)
Season 1 had 20 episodes (2 per legs)
Season 2 had 27 episodes
Season 3 had 31 episodes
Season 4 had 34 episodes
Season 5 had 36 episodes
Season 6 had 40+ episodes

I think HMLM is no longer produced by ActiveTV as the company left out of Amazing Race production a few years ago. Reshet now produces the show.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on September 15, 2019, 10:49:22 PM
So while there were definitely hints throughout previous episodes, the first episode for leg 11 confirmed that Eyal, Sid and Itzhak are all gay. All three of them had someone during the loved ones meeting that was identified on screen as "(name)'s partner," and Sid said something in a confessional about his mother's reaction to him "coming out of the closet."  Also for what it's worth, Haviv & Itzhak sometimes refer to each other using feminine pronouns (it might be more than I think, I'm not paying attention). That's rather interesting.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on September 15, 2019, 10:50:10 PM
Also really sad to see Nissim & Orel go, I for sure thought they would get to the pit stop before Eyal & Sid's yield ran out. But given how we should have lost them on leg 1 (seriously, has there ever been a NEL with 12 teams before?) I'm gonna count my blessings that we managed to get so much of them.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on September 15, 2019, 11:10:17 PM
So while there were definitely hints throughout previous episodes, the first episode for leg 11 confirmed that Eyal, Sid and Itzhak are all gay. All three of them had someone during the loved ones meeting that was identified on screen as "(name)'s partner," and Sid said something in a confessional about his mother's reaction to him "coming out of the closet."  Also for what it's worth, Haviv & Itzhak sometimes refer to each other using feminine pronouns (it might be more than I think, I'm not paying attention). That's rather interesting.

Thank you, jfarbzz! I'll add that to their tags on the TAR Fandom
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on September 16, 2019, 05:45:31 AM
So while there were definitely hints throughout previous episodes, the first episode for leg 11 confirmed that Eyal, Sid and Itzhak are all gay. All three of them had someone during the loved ones meeting that was identified on screen as "(name)'s partner," and Sid said something in a confessional about his mother's reaction to him "coming out of the closet."  Also for what it's worth, Haviv & Itzhak sometimes refer to each other using feminine pronouns (it might be more than I think, I'm not paying attention). That's rather interesting.

Thank you, jfarbzz! I'll add that to their tags on the TAR Fandom

You can also add Adi & Meitar from last season, Adi mentioned a few times that she was a lesbian.
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 16, 2019, 07:17:30 AM
Eyal and Sid were 石灰 & 羚羊 (Shíhuī & Língyáng) meaning lime (as in, the fruit) and gazelle (as in the animal)...I have no idea which is which, or why these were picked.

That’s what their names mean in English lol
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Post by: G.B. on September 16, 2019, 09:23:37 PM
"China Rush" travel agency?? At first I thought this was going to be a weird crossover with the cancelled TAR China Rush and teams would meet Allan Wu. Why can't I ever find anything in Shanghai by googling? :c

I don't understand the rules of the stinky tofu task. I couldn't tell if they had to make four necklaces, or four each, and how exactly eating a bowl of tofu factors into that. Does eating the bowl 'replace' one necklace?
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Post by: PAHC on September 17, 2019, 09:35:46 AM
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...and how exactly eating a bowl of tofu factors into that. Does eating the bowl 'replace' one necklace?

If teams wish to not make the necklace, they must eat the stinky tofu.
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 17, 2019, 10:03:24 AM
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...and how exactly eating a bowl of tofu factors into that. Does eating the bowl 'replace' one necklace?

If teams wish to not make the necklace, they must eat the stinky tofu.

I have a question for you, since the finale is airing on Sunday: did people in Israel get tired of how long the last few seasons were? Because this season is significantly shorter than seasons 4-6 that all had around 40 episodes.
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Post by: G.B. on September 17, 2019, 05:38:07 PM
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...and how exactly eating a bowl of tofu factors into that. Does eating the bowl 'replace' one necklace?

If teams wish to not make the necklace, they must eat the stinky tofu.

I guess the math didn't seem to add up to me while I was watching.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: PAHC on September 18, 2019, 06:36:27 AM
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I have a question for you, since the finale is airing on Sunday: did people in Israel get tired of how long the last few seasons were? Because this season is significantly shorter than seasons 4-6 that all had around 40 episodes.
They did, actually. While all reality shows here last twice as long as US ones, TAR was the one most heavily criticized as the show was supposed to be a fast-paced race, and felt unnecessarily long.
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Post by: Maanca on September 18, 2019, 02:17:10 PM
Season 6 aired for like 5 months. Since they're only meant to last 3, it really overstayed its welcome.

This season's length feels just right to me.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on September 18, 2019, 09:17:51 PM
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Eyal & Sid have been bothering me the past couple of legs because they started mocking teams for failing to get them out with Yields, so I was the least invested in them making the finale of the four teams. I'm very excited for this final 3, and I'm hoping for a good finale.

How did Itzhak not know where Haviv was born when they share the same birthplace?  :funny:
The filipina host did not believe in the twin psychic link.  :funny:
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Post by: claude_24hrs on September 18, 2019, 10:02:49 PM
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Eyal & Sid have been bothering me the past couple of legs because they started mocking teams for failing to get them out with Yields, so I was the least invested in them making the finale of the four teams. I'm very excited for this final 3, and I'm hoping for a good finale.

How did Itzhak not know where Haviv was born when they share the same birthplace?  :funny:
The filipina host did not believe in the twin psychic link.  :funny:

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Who is the Pit Stop greeter in the Philippine leg? Proud to be a Filipino.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on September 18, 2019, 10:16:57 PM
 :furious: :dick :furious: :furious: :dick :furious: :dick :dick :dick :furious: :groan:
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Post by: ImANewUser on September 18, 2019, 11:24:42 PM
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haven't watched the ep yet, but based on wiki that last task wasn't that bad? 2 of the 4 incorrect landmarks were within walking distance from the amusement park and the other 2 were within 5 kms of the amusement park, and all 4 were generally quickly navigable without having to venture into the more traffic-infested roads as long as you were able to keep your taxi
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Post by: G.B. on September 19, 2019, 07:36:25 AM
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haven't watched the ep yet, but based on wiki that last task wasn't that bad? 2 of the 4 incorrect landmarks were within walking distance from the amusement park and the other 2 were within 5 kms of the amusement park, and all 4 were generally quickly navigable without having to venture into the more traffic-infested roads as long as you were able to keep your taxi
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The final three should not be decided by pure luck
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Post by: ImANewUser on September 19, 2019, 12:05:02 PM
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haven't watched the ep yet, but based on wiki that last task wasn't that bad? 2 of the 4 incorrect landmarks were within walking distance from the amusement park and the other 2 were within 5 kms of the amusement park, and all 4 were generally quickly navigable without having to venture into the more traffic-infested roads as long as you were able to keep your taxi
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The final three should not be decided by pure luck
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theoretically yes, but based on what we have seen in previous seasons, it could have deeeeeeeeeefinitely been far worse so I'm not complaining :duno: *especially* since the luck task saved who are easily the best team left
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on September 19, 2019, 04:49:35 PM
Are the spoilers just about the Wednesday episode?  Helps to indicate what spoiler comments may refer to.

Anyway on the Wednesday episode and the last few.

Sid and Eyal really have had the worst luck with taxis on this race, several times being shown to have drivers who didn't know the location to go to.  I was so relieved they beat Nisim and Orel who were definitely lucky several times.  I generally didn't like the boot order on this (right from the injury at the start), and Tali and Gili basically helped Nisim/Orel survive by not paying attention in the luck task.  Luck hasn't really favoured teams I've liked on this race and even when it did there they there they couldn't take advantage. 

Monday last week I had no idea what the talk about credit cards was as the episode hadn't been uploaded.  As it's normally prompt I assumed there hadn't been a Monday episode.  Maybe it would be good to have a weekly schedule on when episodes are during seasons, as some versions definitely have variation at points.

I was wondering in the last few legs how many of these tasks are actually related to the culture of the local area.  And in China there was quite a strange leg where it looked like it was more a comedy than a race, with the dance/singing task (obviously meant to be judged very leniently) and some tv shopping task where they just seemed to fool around.  I still didn't find the twins funny, they may find Chinese a funny language, but I find their brand of humour very unfunny. 

The good thing was that most of the tasks on the race weren't easy and teams didn't appear to help each other.  If they did it wasn't shown that I could tell.  The yields may have shown alliances but could have just been teams following whoever other teams were yielding so they wouldn't get the most votes themselves.

One thing I really missed in this was navigation, not taxi luck although they rarely focused on the taxis even.  Sometimes it just seemed like one task after another, and the transport/navigation in between was just the boring bit that should be skipped over.  It was quite a shock in one leg when we saw Ariel and Karin running around trying to find somewhere, actual race drama that wasn't related to a task but to contestants actually having to find somewhere.

The luck tasks have obviously added drama but at the same time made it a lottery.  And as with lotteries it seems you rarely win, and I didn't with these.  The possibility was dangled that a certain team would go out before the finale, but of course it didn't happen.  The last luck task reminded me of another version, possibly the Canadian one, where teams had to find a large sign.  But it turned out this sign was in two different places and only one was the actual pit stop.  I don't like to spoil other seasons so just to say on that

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It turned out it was a non-elimination leg, as legs dependent on luck should be.


I know which team I don't want to win.  I don't mind the other two, though the edit seemingly making out that Tia and Fay were beset by villains who they had to valiantly fight against has annoyed me.  One of the best things about them for foreign viewers is that they do speak more English than anyone else.  It was interesting to see in their family segment that they had far fewer people, indicating further how they are different from all the others left.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: aaa2123 on September 21, 2019, 09:22:16 AM
Hello, I'm an Israeli new discoverer of the forum :)
I've read some of this ongoing discussion in the past. I kind of regret that I didn't register to here before, because I had (and still have) a lot to say about a lot of things that have happened in this season.
I want to know what you think about the teams and the tasks, because I think that this things haven't been discussed here that much (especially the teams).
But this question is too general, and so I had to find something that will summarize (well, sort of summarize) what I think.

The best thing I found is the questions on "The Golden Envelope Ceremony 2019" (the litteraly translation of "2019 טקס מעטפת הזהב")
This is a survey that Reshet 13 posted on thier website.
Link: https://13tv.co.il/item/mood/the-amazing-race/season-07/self/ww74j-1065817/

Here are the questions (translated by me) in the order they appear:
1. Who is the most complaining team? | ?מי הזוג הכי מתלונן
2. Who is the most sportic team? | ?מי הזוג הכי ספורטיבי
3. Who had the best realationship? | ?למי הייתה את הזוגיות הכי טובה
4. Who is the most groomed team? | ?מי הזוג הכי מטופח
5. Who is the funniest team? | ?מי הזוג הכי מצחיק
6. Who is the most strategist team? | ?מי הזוג הכי אסטרטג
7. Who is the most competitive team? | ?מי הזוג הכי תחרותי
8. Who is the bravest team? | ?מי הזוג הכי אמיץ
9. Who would you like to be friends with in reality? | ?עם איזה זוג הייתם רוצים להיות חברים במציאות
10. Who is the most nagging team? | ?מי הזוג הכי חופר

There is also a survey of The Most Beloved Team, also on Reshet 13's website.
Link: https://13tv.co.il/item/mood/the-amazing-race/season-07/self/xorci-1065137/

I will post what I answered and will explain why I answered what I answered.

I tried my best with the translations and with my English, sorry for any mistakes.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 12:44:44 AM
Hello, I'm an Israeli new discoverer of the forum :)
I've read some of this ongoing discussion in the past. I kind of regret that I didn't register to here before, because I had (and still have) a lot to say about a lot of things that have happened in this season.
I want to know what you think about the teams and the tasks, because I think that this things haven't been discussed here that much (especially the teams).
But this question is too general, and so I had to find something that will summarize (well, sort of summarize) what I think.

The best thing I found is the questions on "The Golden Envelope Ceremony 2019" (the litteraly translation of "2019 טקס מעטפת הזהב")
This is a survey that Reshet 13 posted on thier website.
Link: https://13tv.co.il/item/mood/the-amazing-race/season-07/self/ww74j-1065817/

Here are the questions (translated by me) in the order they appear:
1. Who is the most complaining team? | ?מי הזוג הכי מתלונן
2. Who is the most sportic team? | ?מי הזוג הכי ספורטיבי
3. Who had the best realationship? | ?למי הייתה את הזוגיות הכי טובה
4. Who is the most groomed team? | ?מי הזוג הכי מטופח
5. Who is the funniest team? | ?מי הזוג הכי מצחיק
6. Who is the most strategist team? | ?מי הזוג הכי אסטרטג
7. Who is the most competitive team? | ?מי הזוג הכי תחרותי
8. Who is the bravest team? | ?מי הזוג הכי אמיץ
9. Who would you like to be friends with in reality? | ?עם איזה זוג הייתם רוצים להיות חברים במציאות
10. Who is the most nagging team? | ?מי הזוג הכי חופר

There is also a survey of The Most Beloved Team, also on Reshet 13's website.
Link: https://13tv.co.il/item/mood/the-amazing-race/season-07/self/xorci-1065137/

I will post what I answered and will explain why I answered what I answered.

I tried my best with the translations and with my English, sorry for any mistakes.

Aha! Kind of the superlative awards or some sorts (that's why it's general).
I haven't voted there yet, but I already voted for the Fan Favorite thing.

Bruchim habaim shel RFF!
And as someone who watched three-fourth of the season (I haven't got into the leg 11 part 3 yet but I wanna know why by watching), first of all I'm glad on the episode pace–it's back to the season 2-ish when there were like 20+ eps instead of 40+ back in season 6. I mean, if they really wanna show a bit detailed on the process or idk how to say it, this pace is enough (or like season 5 but they took... 35-ish eps). The teams, they have their own characters (and uniquities in a way?), but I agree with most (or several) people here that even if in the end not all eliminations are purely luck (eg sooner or later with or without a luck task several teams could just be eliminated there, or there are several mishaps happened to them after that task idk), but the prevalence of it in near the Pit Stop really bothers–as if it all came down to that task instead of previous seasons while not all near Pit Stop tasks ended up with luck, or 'What's the point of being skillful?'

If you guys can add or modify things from this it'll be great! I'm trying to summarize what has been discussed here though.
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 22, 2019, 12:49:04 AM
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haven't watched the ep yet, but based on wiki that last task wasn't that bad? 2 of the 4 incorrect landmarks were within walking distance from the amusement park and the other 2 were within 5 kms of the amusement park, and all 4 were generally quickly navigable without having to venture into the more traffic-infested roads as long as you were able to keep your taxi
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The final three should not be decided by pure luck
Oh oops this has been happening as far back as TAR6 with the locks and that was iconic so
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 12:51:50 AM
The luck tasks have obviously added drama but at the same time made it a lottery.  And as with lotteries it seems you rarely win, and I didn't with these.  The possibility was dangled that a certain team would go out before the finale, but of course it didn't happen.  The last luck task reminded me of another version, possibly the Canadian one, where teams had to find a large sign.  But it turned out this sign was in two different places and only one was the actual pit stop.  I don't like to spoil other seasons so just to say on that

Regarding the Pit Stop, idk why I also reminded to the second Namibian leg of HMLM 5?
They played a catapult of 5 possible Pit Stops, if you're accurately throwing it to the picture of them you'll get a clue to that certain Pit Stop, but one of them is the real one. So if they couldn't find Sir Shahar, they need to go back play that catapult until they got the right Pit Stop.

(The thing I remember was a team walked while another team took a taxi there back then? Oh welp. That might be a different thing but I suddenly remember that one, excuse my memory.)

And regarding luck tasks that point makes sense as well... looked like a lottery.
Now that tonight IDT is the season finale, I hope it's a combination of being skillful and a bit of luck as well. I remembered the season 6 final task thing (thanks to that task it added to my Israeli music collection as well), hope it's like that (I mean the combination, the task could be different).
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 22, 2019, 01:09:25 AM
My favorite thing about the HaMerotz 6 finale was that the only team that screwed up the final task based on Israeli music was the team with a famous Israeli singer on it...and I couldn't stand them lol
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Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 08:33:43 AM
My favorite thing about the HaMerotz 6 finale was that the only team that screwed up the final task based on Israeli music was the team with a famous Israeli singer on it...and I couldn't stand them lol

YESH! Irony is delicious.
I wanna see that part (since I missed most of the sixth season) to actually collect the songs though :v I love collecting songs by watching :D
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Post by: georgiapeach on September 22, 2019, 10:50:42 AM


:bigwelcome to RFF aaa2123! 

Great questions!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 12:09:16 PM
Finale in one hour! Not sure if I can stream it here in Indo, but I hope it ends exciting!
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My wishlist of the final task is still the same, the combination for being skillful and a little bit of luck, let's say like the HMLM 6 one–or if it is a maze and self-drive ending like HMLM 5, they could just show the whole self-driving process or is it just me who didn't get it back then...
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Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 12:55:34 PM
Anyone outside Israel: Are you guys watching the Finale live? Apparently I found a working link but not sure shall I share it here or not since it is not the official link that I'm using (or you guys have found one then that's cool.).
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Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 03:36:15 PM
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OMG OMG I'M SO HAPPY
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TIA & FAY WON THE RACE!!
That team grows on me exactly after they have been Yielded, then nailed that NEL until they've won the Race! I love their spirit, I love their determination, and they have proven to the world that they're ruthless!
I'm happy for
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Karin and Ariel as well for placing second.

Side note: I love the riddle question for real. I've heard that song for some time–but I didn't expect them to be a riddle among anything else. If looking at the answer, it was not in the Knesset, right–but look who
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lost their luck and went to the Knesset instead, placing them third.

What a season this has been. This is the first season I've been watching in full, I love this pace of airing, that's not bad for showing TAR at a detail, but please I love these kind of riddles way better than the actual pot luck ones (albeit the elimination cause, some of it, was not the task, but other factors as we see it).
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 03:37:27 PM
Anyway, what do you guys think about this season insofar, and in an event of a returnee season (like all returnee), who do you guys want to see again?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on September 22, 2019, 03:40:17 PM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Xoruz on September 22, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
Very happy for the winning team, congratulations
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Tia & Fay  :jumpy:
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Maanca on September 22, 2019, 06:07:38 PM
I like that they did the Amazing Race 9 thing, almost. The finish line was the same place as the first Pit Stop.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: fossil-racer on September 22, 2019, 08:23:40 PM
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considering the 6 FF teams this season, I'm glad one of them won!
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on September 22, 2019, 09:57:01 PM
A great end to a very lackluster series. I'm glad they at least managed to go out on a high note. I was cheering for these two from the very beginning. It's especially gratifying to see them win because, back in leg 1, I accidentally saw something that I THOUGHT was a spoiler saying they would be eliminated, so I was sort of just waiting and waiting for it to happen. But then they won, so it's like wow!
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Post by: jfarbzz on September 22, 2019, 10:52:46 PM
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I shouldn't be surprised that Tia & Fay won given that someone somewhere else pointed out that they had a MASSIVE winner's edit, but I saw a comment on Instagram a while back saying something like "not to spoil, but the Mamans (Haviv & Itzhak) won." And given how I was spoiled on Evelin & Tohar's win via Instagram comment as well, I assumed it was right and was ready to be disappointed that Tia & Fay wouldn't win even though they had a lead, just like with Daniel & Eliyahu last season. But THEY WON AND I WAS SO HAPPY. Honestly? Tia & Fay are now my favorite HaMerotz team of all time. Before I kept flip-flopping between Daniel & Eliyahu and Josie & Alex, but both disappointingly came up short in the end. Tia & Fay were already in my top 5 or even top 3, but them winning catapulted them right to the top.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 22, 2019, 10:56:36 PM
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I shouldn't be surprised that Tia & Fay won given that someone somewhere else pointed out that they had a MASSIVE winner's edit, but I saw a comment on Instagram a while back saying something like "not to spoil, but the Mamans (Haviv & Itzhak) won." And given how I was spoiled on Evelin & Tohar's win via Instagram comment as well, I assumed it was right and was ready to be disappointed that Tia & Fay wouldn't win even though they had a lead, just like with Daniel & Eliyahu last season. But THEY WON AND I WAS SO HAPPY. Honestly? Tia & Fay are now my favorite HaMerotz team of all time. Before I kept flip-flopping between Daniel & Eliyahu and Josie & Alex, but both disappointingly came up short in the end. Tia & Fay were already in my top 5 or even top 3, but them winning catapulted them right to the top.

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No wonder why they grew on me as well from the start to the finish of the Race. And for me, they're also one of my fave teams this season (along with Ariel & Karin and Eyal & Sid, but my support to the latter began to lower or something after Tia & Fay survived that NEL, enjoyed seeing Gili & Tali as well!).
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on September 22, 2019, 11:06:49 PM
There was a rather dark yet hilarious moment during the finale when Ariel & Karin were sitting on the side after constantly failing the first task and Ariel was trying to convince Karin that she could hold the rope by saying something like "pretend the rope is a baby," and Karin was like, "then the baby will die!" Keep in mind last episode we found out Karin wants to have five kids...
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on September 23, 2019, 03:39:58 AM
Btw if you didn't know, that final challenge at Trump Tower Manila was a reference to when a crazy dude climbed up the New York Trump Tower using those same suction cup things. It was a huge police incident and he was arrested.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 23, 2019, 06:06:49 AM
There was a rather dark yet hilarious moment during the finale when Ariel & Karin were sitting on the side after constantly failing the first task and Ariel was trying to convince Karin that she could hold the rope by saying something like "pretend the rope is a baby," and Karin was like, "then the baby will die!" Keep in mind last episode we found out Karin wants to have five kids...

Omg thanks for pointing that out! My understanding was completely scattered, idk I wasn't too concentrating at that point maybe due to me watching live at 2am here or is it just me. That's dark for sure.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 23, 2019, 06:07:13 AM
Btw if you didn't know, that final challenge at Trump Tower Manila was a reference to when a crazy dude climbed up the New York Trump Tower using those same suction cup things. It was a huge police incident and he was arrested.

Ooh I remember now! What a reference :v
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: Musicon on September 23, 2019, 05:57:32 PM
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haven't watched the ep yet, but based on wiki that last task wasn't that bad? 2 of the 4 incorrect landmarks were within walking distance from the amusement park and the other 2 were within 5 kms of the amusement park, and all 4 were generally quickly navigable without having to venture into the more traffic-infested roads as long as you were able to keep your taxi

If you picked the wrong place you also had to go back and redo the task, delaying more.


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Anyway not much of a surprise about the winners and I was ok with it.  The best part was the team finishing 3rd not winning.  I was a bit puzzled by how it played out though.  Clearly Tia and Fay had a decent lead, but that all evaporated with the plane to Israel?  I'm assuming they kept to some kind of gaps as they left the plane.  The editing obviously showed them all at the boxes together, but were Tia and Fay just way in the lead anyway?  If they didn't keep to some gaps it made all the previous part of the leg in the Philippines pointless.  Tough leg for Karin but she persevered.  Working out a riddle is obviously much better than just guessing the location from a choice already given to teams.  Nice to see some of the other teams again, but disappointed not to see them mixing at the end.
 

Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on September 23, 2019, 06:18:23 PM

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Anyway not much of a surprise about the winners and I was ok with it.  The best part was the team finishing 3rd not winning.  I was a bit puzzled by how it played out though.  Clearly Tia and Fay had a decent lead, but that all evaporated with the plane to Israel?  I'm assuming they kept to some kind of gaps as they left the plane.  The editing obviously showed them all at the boxes together, but were Tia and Fay just way in the lead anyway?  If they didn't keep to some gaps it made all the previous part of the leg in the Philippines pointless.  Tough leg for Karin but she persevered.  Working out a riddle is obviously much better than just guessing the location from a choice already given to teams.  Nice to see some of the other teams again, but disappointed not to see them mixing at the end.


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Tia & Fey were shown hopping into a cab ahead of the other two when leaving Ben Gurion. The show was edited to make the teams closer together than they probably actually were, but it's clear to see that T&F did have a time advantage when leaving the airport, considering they were probably around a half hour to an hour ahead after their domination of the climbing task. It's likely they did exactly what they did in season 6, recording time differences when teams picked up the clue directing them to Israel, but for some reason just didn't explain it this season. It might be because T&F were so far ahead, it would've killed the suspense if they directly brought up the time differences.

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I just perused the spoiler thread, and it was said that it took T&F about 3 hours to climb up Trump Tower. We can see in the show itself that they were almost finished by the time H&I and K&A get started on the task, so T&F had to be around 3 hours ahead when they got the clue directing them to Israel. Last season they showed the time differences on-screen, but showing T&F being 3 hours ahead would have definitely killed the drama, so they edited things to make it closer for sure
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on September 24, 2019, 06:10:08 AM
I just realized that the final 3 here is pretty much the same as the final 3 of HaMerotz 2: an all-female team, two brothers, and a religious couple.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 24, 2019, 01:16:53 PM
And as always, there'll be a Reunion episode this Wednesday IDT! Who's excited for this portion?
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on September 24, 2019, 01:17:55 PM
I just realized that the final 3 here is pretty much the same as the final 3 of HaMerotz 2: an all-female team, two brothers, and a religious couple.

Yep I do remember that!
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in both seasons, the all-female team won. Just the second and third place that differs.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: the_exTIMinator on September 25, 2019, 01:30:52 AM
If there’s a way to watch the season of HaMerotz with English subtitles, I’d love to see it. I don’t understand much Hebrew.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: ImANewUser on September 25, 2019, 12:00:57 PM
this was a kinda disappointing finale? pretty much my main issues with the season were all on full display in this finale, with only the best team of the Final 3 winning to alleviate it; idk, the season was a ride from start to finish but this was a flat final note
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: jfarbzz on September 27, 2019, 10:14:37 AM
So there’s a moment in the reunion episode that I sincerely hope I misheard...I think Eden said she and Aviad have been married for nine years. Based on how long ago their pre-race footage was filmed, she’s 24/25, he’s 38/39. If you do the math...yikes.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on September 28, 2019, 02:46:41 AM
So scary to see Karin at the concert when the missile attack happened. So glad she's okay.
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: toanglobal on November 07, 2019, 08:21:10 PM
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...and how exactly eating a bowl of tofu factors into that. Does eating the bowl 'replace' one necklace?

If teams wish to not make the necklace, they must eat the stinky tofu.

I have a question for you, since the finale is airing on Sunday: did people in Israel get tired of how long the last few seasons were? Because this season is significantly shorter than seasons 4-6 that all had around 40 episodes.
Please converts some ARI tasks into Detour & Roadblock, in first two seasons there were 10 RBs & 10 Detours for each
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: tatasport on November 12, 2019, 08:19:34 AM
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...and how exactly eating a bowl of tofu factors into that. Does eating the bowl 'replace' one necklace?

If teams wish to not make the necklace, they must eat the stinky tofu.

I have a question for you, since the finale is airing on Sunday: did people in Israel get tired of how long the last few seasons were? Because this season is significantly shorter than seasons 4-6 that all had around 40 episodes.
Please converts some ARI tasks into Detour & Roadblock, in first two seasons there were 10 RBs & 10 Detours for each

I do agree! There are some Roadblock and Detour-worthy tasks instead of just keeping it as Route Info. Moreover, I thought they saved the (even) harder ones for Roadblocks and Detours until I saw there were like only 2 RBs and even 2 Detours (wait there's this one Route Info that should've been a Detour, unless it's like picking 1/4, like in Vietnam 6 if I'm not mistaken).
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Post by: toanglobal on December 09, 2019, 09:19:20 PM
Also, how hilarious would it be it someone had voted for someone else than Ran & Ben?

11-way tie for 1 vote, so I guess everyone would have to wait out the Yield. So close :lol:

I believe that the Yield would be cancelled. This is what I believe happened in Sri Lanka during season 2. There was a U-Turn vote (you can very clearly see the voting board), but nothing ever happened with it. It was the final 5, so I believe they all voted for each other and it was cancelled.
U-turn in Sri lanka leg was canceled because Bar & Inna took the fast forward, at that time most team targed Bar & Inna, Akiva & Anaelle, another unaired U-turn was HMLM 4 leg 7 in UK
Title: Re: HaMerotz LaMillion 7 (TAR ISRAEL 7) Ongoing SHOW DIscussion
Post by: G.B. on December 10, 2019, 05:37:48 PM
Also, how hilarious would it be it someone had voted for someone else than Ran & Ben?

11-way tie for 1 vote, so I guess everyone would have to wait out the Yield. So close :lol:

I believe that the Yield would be cancelled. This is what I believe happened in Sri Lanka during season 2. There was a U-Turn vote (you can very clearly see the voting board), but nothing ever happened with it. It was the final 5, so I believe they all voted for each other and it was cancelled.
U-turn in Sri lanka leg was canceled because Bar & Inna took the fast forward, at that time most team targed Bar & Inna, Akiva & Anaelle, another unaired U-turn was HMLM 4 leg 7 in UK

The Fast Forward in Sri Lanka happened after the Detour, so Bar & Inna still would have hit the U-Turn before taking it.