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Title: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 05:18:35 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 05:26:35 PM
TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO Back-to-back LEGS !! TWO HOURS OF FUN and DRAMA!

The PENULTIMATE LEG In HONG KONG

AND OUR FINALE LEG IN SAN FRANCISCO!

LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION WELCOMED after 8:30 PM


Keep it nice...and remember no spoilers, no outcomes !

Everyone have fun!! But keep it nice!! 

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do well in a task, or behaved badly, or just isn't your favorite, it is
NOT okay to be rude or impolite
in doing so. We don't allow personal
attacks on each other or on our racer friends. Comments on how they raced are
fair, personal attacks are not.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 05:40:55 PM
FINALE DAY!!

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Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 05:43:23 PM
The FUN STARTS AT 8:30 PM EST! :waves:

Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 07:31:57 PM
Hey, everyone! It's the season tertianniversary! Tonight is the time to celebrate a milestone! :wine:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 07:39:41 PM
So happy to see this come alive!! Hope the on the ground teams will contribute as they can!!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 07:48:43 PM
My morning lectures are called off due to a strike tomorrow, so hell yes I'm here at 2am <3

Really excited for a (seemingly difficult) night leg in Hong Kong!!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Alenaveda on February 21, 2018, 07:50:22 PM
Season finale!  :cheer: :cheer:

Hoping we see another amazing finale!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
And we are on the air!

Previously on TAR, our most competitive season began with a photo finish! for the first time ever, teams went head to head! And swapped partners! They made strategic moves and game changing mistakes. Along the way 7 teams were eliminated leaving Team Indy, Skiers, BB, and Yale with a shot at winning $1 million. Tonight, one of these four teams will win TAR!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:02:58 PM
Alex & Conor are first to depart at 6:45 AM. Teams must fly to Pearl of the Orient, Hong Kong. Once there, teams must go to the picturesque view atop Victoria Peak to take a picture and retrieve their next clue.

All teams catch up at the airport with Henry & Evan describing their all-or-nothing stance with their Speed Bump.

Flight takes off! Intro
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 08:05:51 PM
Yay Hong Kong my home and the season finale hope the skiers win :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:11:18 PM
We come back from our introductory commercials to teams arriving head first in Hong Kong! Everyone running through the airport like manics and snagging taxis. Lion's Pavilion!  Alex & Conor and Kristi & Jen are in the lead while Cody & Jessica while Henry & Evan are right behind. "In the future, we gotta be more aggressive. We got to push *shoving motion*" - Evan

Kristi & Jen finish each other's sentences and Mandarin-speaking Henry meets Henry the Mandarin-speaking taxi driver. LOL Alex & Conor arrive at the point while Kristi & Jen are arguing and the taxi driver crashes his vehicle against a retaining wall

Alex & Conor get to the photo kiosk, bypassing Henry & Evan's Speed Bump sign. They are welcomed to HK with a Kowloon? background.

Henry & Evan arrive at the Speed Bump near the kiosk where they must illuminate 48 Chinese lanterns for good luck to progress to their task.

Alex & Conor must travel to the Aberdeen? waterfront to retrieve their next clue. Cody & Jessica move up to 2nd with a kiss at the peak.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:14:59 PM
Kristi & Jen take their pic at the peak and move up to 3rd. Meanwhile, Henry & Evan are still hanging lanterns with a smile. Everyone else is moving on to the waterfront. Cody & Jessica are following Indy hoping they can overtake them.

Alex & Conor and Cody & Jess split to find the clue box at the promenade while Kristi & Jen trail along.

Kristi & Jen find the DETOUR CLUE: Hairy Crab or Grub Grab
In Hairy Crab, teams must wrap 50 live crabs by twine in a fake typhoon to receive their next clue. In Grub Grab, teams must take orders in Mandarin Chinese at a restaurant to receive their next clue. Kisha & Jen would LOVE this choice, lol.

All teams except Yale get their clues. Henry & Evan take their pic and head to the waterfront. Cody & Jessica and Al ex & Conor are doing crabs. Ouches and yows heard around the world!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:16:28 PM
Kristi & Jen choose hairy crabs and are starting to hurry up the pace. Cody & Jessica arrive right after them while Alex & Conor are making some progress. Conor is complaining and whining about those pinchers. "This is pointless! I don't want to break my finger!" They quit and switch to Kisha & Jen's fave Detour task.

Commercials.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 08:16:28 PM
Kristi & Jen take their pic at the peak and move up to 3rd. Meanwhile, Henry & Evan are still hanging lanterns with a smile. Everyone else is moving on to the waterfront. Cody & Jessica are following Indy hoping they can overtake them.

Alex & Conor and Cody & Jess split to find the clue box at the promenade while Kristi & Jen trail along.

Kristi & Jen find the DETOUR CLUE: Hairy Crab or Grub Grab
In Hairy Crab, teams must wrap 50 live crabs by twine in a fake typhoon to receive their next clue. In Grub Grab, teams must take orders in Mandarin Chinese at a restaurant to receive their next clue. Kisha & Jen would LOVE this choice, lol.

All teams except Yale get their clues. Henry & Evan take their pic and head to the waterfront. Cody & Jessica and Al ex & Conor are doing crabs. Ouches and yows heard around the world!
It is not Mandarin but in Cantonese
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:16:56 PM
Kristi & Jen take their pic at the peak and move up to 3rd. Meanwhile, Henry & Evan are still hanging lanterns with a smile. Everyone else is moving on to the waterfront. Cody & Jessica are following Indy hoping they can overtake them.

Alex & Conor and Cody & Jess split to find the clue box at the promenade while Kristi & Jen trail along.

Kristi & Jen find the DETOUR CLUE: Hairy Crab or Grub Grab
In Hairy Crab, teams must wrap 50 live crabs by twine in a fake typhoon to receive their next clue. In Grub Grab, teams must take orders in Mandarin Chinese at a restaurant to receive their next clue. Kisha & Jen would LOVE this choice, lol.

All teams except Yale get their clues. Henry & Evan take their pic and head to the waterfront. Cody & Jessica and Al ex & Conor are doing crabs. Ouches and yows heard around the world!
It is not Mandarin but in Cantonese
Thank you for the correction. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 08:17:24 PM
IndyCar is so negative since the very first Route Info... ???
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 08:19:59 PM
Triggered cause Kristi and Jen got a horrible taxi driver :furious:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 08:22:44 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 08:22:59 PM
I will help up with translating the Cantonese involved in this episode once I caught up with the episode later tonight in Hong Kong (now I am busy with school  :faint:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:25:26 PM
We come back to Alex & Conor switching to the restaurant. Conor is frustrated.
Henry & Evan get to the promenade, almost passing by it. They choose Grub Grab.

Cody & Jessica are calmly tying those crabs while Kristi & Jen underestimated this task. Meanwhile, Henry & Evan and Alex & Conor and neck and neck arriving at Kimbao? Restaurant. They start taking orders and Conor is already ranting to both team members. Really, bro?
Henry & Evan are working practically and phonetically, bypassing Conor's negativity.

Kristi & Jen and Cody & Jessica are continuing the crab task and Jessica is FRUSTRATED! She thinks the restaurant is a better choice.

Meanwhile, Conor is already confused. Henry already serving plates with a perfect strategy by re-asking and getting orders correct but fails because he initially served the right dishes. :lol: Conor is beating him.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
Jessica can't tie the remaining crabs and Alex & Conor are starting to progress even more. Conor wants a check, but still incorrect. Henry checks and gets all 8 dishes correct, moving up to 1st!

Route info: Make your way to Central Pier to get your next clue!

Conor finishes right after in 2nd place. Kristi & Jen finish up the crabs, but incorrectly. They must redo half a basket full of moving crabbies. Cody & Jessica move up to 3rd place.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:29:55 PM
Henry & Evan arrive at the pier in 1st.
ROADBLOCK: Who want to get smashed?
One team member must smash old and broken electronics to find two halves of a clue. After finding both halves, they must splash red paint over their destruction to create "rage art" before going back to their partner and releasing them from a handcuffed briefcase punishment. Another punishment... hmmm...

Alex & Conor follow Henry right after.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:33:23 PM
ANd Conor breaks his bat in half mid-break. Henry finds his first half while he brushes by the second half and eventually finds it.

Travel by taxi to Lan Kwai Fong to find specific icons in the neons of previously seen figures on the race to unlock their briefcase.

Cody & Jessica meet up at the pier and start smashing. Kristi & Jen arrive right after with Kristi in SO MUCH PAIN not being able to brea any of the desolated gadgets. She is in physical pain and holding her wrists as if they were bleeding.

Commercials.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 08:33:53 PM
Daaamn, skiers struggling so much this leg! :o
They're like a different team
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:40:25 PM
We return to a crying-in-mercy Kristi at the Roadblock. Cody & Jessica are worrying they are competing for last place. Kristi finally gets the hang of it, "this sucks", while Cody finds the first half.

Henry & Evan begin writing down possible icons and as they arrive are struck with a nightlife shock. Alex & Conor then arrive and Cody & Jessica finish up the Roadblock. Meanwhile, Kristi is miserable smashing the desktops.

Alex & Conor feel the neons are their worst nightmares. Henry & Evan are even more confused. Cody & Jessica can't believe they are racing for last against the skiers. Yale finds the Moroccan musicians' caps while Alex & Conor also get the bulls.

Kristi is struggling.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:44:38 PM
She re-reads her clue and begins actively searching for both halves. They eventually get both and are on their way to Lan Kwai Fong. Alex & Conor are overanalyzing this task with any signs, even storefronts, in particular. They decide to work with Henry & Evan, confusing them even more. This is more pointless than Conor's complaint about the hairy crabs. :lol:

"This is like Mardi Gras!" - Jessica. BB arrives searching for the figures. Henry & Evan realize their lead evaporated. Alex & Conor and Cody & Jessica tiffing with each other about over-analyzing signs.

Henry & Evan find the Washington Square Park monument as Leg 1. They starting picking locks AND UNLOCK IT!

This brightly lit intersection of Johnston & Wan Chai Road is the Pit Stop for this Leg of the race. The last team to arrive WILL be eliminated!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:46:50 PM
Henry & Evan are hurrying their asses up the hill. Cody & Jessica and Alex & Conor skip over Leg 1 thinking the starting line isn't part of the race. Yale in their taxi to the intersection. Kristi & Jen arrive at the nightlife row and start searching. cody & Jessica can't find 'nother sign to save their lives.

 Kristi & Jen concentrate on themselves because it's an us or them scenario. Alex & Conor are dawdling with numbers. Meanwhile, Cody & Jess realize WSP is the final number.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:48:11 PM
Cody & Jessica get their clue with a cheering crowd surrounding them like they are putting their hands in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, going off in 2nd place. Meanwhile, Kristi & Jen and Alex & Conor are stuck. "This is terrible." - Conor.

Commercials.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Big Mother on February 21, 2018, 08:53:14 PM
I recall reading something here on RFF that Jody fans in Hong Kong were sent out to help them, and someone even gave one of the other teams wrong directions?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:54:46 PM
We come back to Kristi & Jen confusing each other with Washington Square Park. Cody & Jess and Henry & Evan on their way to the Pit Stop. And Yale almost gets run over by a ding ding train before arriving at the mat! They make TAR history by being a team to complete the Speed Bump and winning the same leg - with Jet & Cord. Evan says they smoked all these teams. Phil reveals they will be pampered in premier on the plane back to the USA... to San Francisco! No Travelocity-sponsored prize?

Meanwhile, Cody & Jessica arrive in 2nd place and will be one of three teams who will be racing for a million dollars. They get emotional because they are losing friends over Yale winning the leg. They are bittersweet.

Kristi & Jen now cracking under pressure while Indy are lost.

Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Joberio on February 21, 2018, 08:55:44 PM
I recall reading something here on RFF that Jody fans in Hong Kong were sent out to help them, and someone even gave one of the other teams wrong directions?
Yes.  An Australian dude gave Kristi & Jen wrong directions on purpose.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 21, 2018, 08:57:42 PM
I recall reading something here on RFF that Jody fans in Hong Kong were sent out to help them, and someone even gave one of the other teams wrong directions?

Wasn't a Jody fan. Was a random Australian dude messing around.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:57:45 PM
Kristi & Jen unlock the case by luck and on their way to the taxis. Alex & Conor are confused more than ever now. The skiers race to the mat and arrive in the nick of time.  They hug it out before Phil reveals they are team number 3! He says they are relentless and only 3 FF teams have won the race. Jen feels confident while Alex & Conor meet Phil on the course.

They have been eliminated. Conor feels this is difficult to take and feels disappointed in himself. Phil even reconciles him at this point.
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Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 08:58:56 PM
I recall reading something here on RFF that Jody fans in Hong Kong were sent out to help them, and someone even gave one of the other teams wrong directions?

Wasn't a Jody fan. Was a random Australian dude messing around.
That's awful.

In the next leg, teams must travel to San Francisco's AT&T Park and find the Willie Mays statue (oh, I went there before!) to find their next clue. Team Extreme meet up with Yale and BB in the finals at the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:00:23 PM
Henry & Evan check in their bags to race without baggage. Meanwhile, every team gets an upgrade to business class on China Airlines, I think. All teams ready to take on the final leg!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 09:04:46 PM
I recall reading something here on RFF that Jody fans in Hong Kong were sent out to help them, and someone even gave one of the other teams wrong directions?

Several times in SF. There are videos of the liars gloating.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Big Mother on February 21, 2018, 09:05:33 PM
I recall reading something here on RFF that Jody fans in Hong Kong were sent out to help them, and someone even gave one of the other teams wrong directions?
Yes.  An Australian dude gave Kristi & Jen wrong directions on purpose.
whew, at least it didn't affect them.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Big Mother on February 21, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
I recall reading something here on RFF that Jody fans in Hong Kong were sent out to help them, and someone even gave one of the other teams wrong directions?

Several times in SF. There are videos of the liars gloating.

In san Francisco! Oh, wow, the shame.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:07:37 PM
Ugh Kristi and Jen struggled so much  :furious:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:08:11 PM
We come back to the finale with teams arriving in SFO and pushing in taxis to AT&T Park. Everyone is on edge! It's a night leg y'all!! Cody & Jess arrive at AT&T Park.

Teams must retrieve three numbers to represent the number of home runs Mays hit over his career (660) to receive their next clue. Kristi & Jen decide to ask travelers/locals. Smart. Meanwhile, Cody twists his ankle and now running with a limp. Keep on pushing!!!!!!

All teams now rowing in kayaks to retrieve the splash landings.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:09:40 PM
Lou Seal, the Giants mascot, is throwing more baseballs into the water. :lol:
Cody & Jess crash into Henry & Evan while Kristi & Jen are making up time.  All teams start grabbing numbers.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:13:49 PM
Cody & Jess get 6-6-0 and Henry & Evan overhear their conversation with the local. Both teams are searching frantically. Kristi & Jen get their last number and are paddling to the umpire. Cody & Jess find the last ball too.

"You're outta here!" Skiers get their next clue. Henry & Evan are cracking while BB get the clue.

ROADBLOCK: Who brought an extra pair of underwear?
One team member must travel to the concrete base of the Bay Bridge. The team member must ascend 20 storeys worth of structure and take a pitch dark bungee jump into the abyss of the tower before receiving their next clue.

Henry & Evan finally get their 3rd clue and now having a communication breakdown --- on the final leg. They're done. Kristi & Jen love the beauty of the bridge while Cody & Jessica arrive at the bridge in 1st.


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/DSC_0253.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:14:43 PM
Henry & Evan catch up and all teams are neck and neck and now ascending upward!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:16:53 PM
Evan is cardiovascularly exhausted and trying to catch up. Kristi and Cody are butt-to-butt at this point. But Cody still reaches the top first right before Kristi. Evan is struggling.

I love the edit for this leg! Feels like TAR12-17 now.

Cody is in some neon jumpsuit getting ready to JUMP!

Commercials.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:21:27 PM
We return to Cody juming into the dark abyss! He is unaffected. :lol:
They must travel to Golden gate Fortune Cookie Factory in Chinatown! Yum!

Kristi hates tall buildings and is scared to walk down the ledge, yet skis for a living. That makes sense, haha.

Evan is now prepping for the plunge.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:23:03 PM
At the fortune cookie factory, teams must make 120 perfect fortune cookies to break open a giant cookie to find their next clue.

Evan jumps and screams in fright and delight. They now proceed to the fortune cookie factory.

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Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 09:26:05 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Cookie%20Skiers2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:26:11 PM
Cody & Jessica arrive 1st at the cookies and Kristi & Jen follow them in 2nd. Henry & Evan's taxi driver Googles the fortune cookie factory. Both teams redoing cookies individually before Kristi is checked off. Cody has yet to finish.

And Jen completes her set!

Find your next clue at the USS Hornet!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:27:23 PM
Jessica is struggling a bit while Evan is quickly catching up.  Cody & Jessica leave in 2nd while Henry & Evan head off rigght after them.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:27:56 PM
Henry & Evan get their taxi while Cody & Jessica are stuck at finding a taxi. "This is ridiculous!" - Jessica

Commercials.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 09:30:33 PM
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Cookie%20Skiers2.jpg
Was this not posted during filming?? Don't remember seeing the photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 09:31:00 PM
This finale is amazing so far.
Now, what's the memory challenge gonna be?
 :adevil
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:32:01 PM
Love the finals go Kristi and Jen win it :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 09:33:29 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/DSC_0320.jpg)
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(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/DSC_0337.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:36:00 PM
We come back to the Big Brother team in despair for a taxi. They eventually getin one. Kristi & Jen arrive in 1st at the Hornet.

"This is it!" - in unison

Teams must assemble a model biplane by arranging 12 parts representing each of the previous and current Legs of this race correctly in order to proceed to the Finish Line.

Kristi & Jen start off in a hurried mindset while BB and Yale arrive right after. Its gonna be a tight race!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:36:56 PM
We come back to the Big Brother team in despair for a taxi. They eventually getin one. Kristi & Jen arrive in 1st at the Hornet.

"This is it!" - in unison

Teams must assemble a model biplane by arranging 12 parts (hidden around the elaborate aircraft carrier ship) representing each of the previous and current Legs of this race correctly in order to proceed to the Finish Line.

Kristi & Jen start off in a hurried mindset while BB and Yale arrive right after. Its gonna be a tight race!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:37:42 PM
Kristi & Jen have 7 pieces, Henry & Evan currently have 4 while Cody & Jessica currently have 6.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:38:52 PM
Everyone doing great adding two more pieces to their inventory. Henry starts over-analyzing while Evan says the back and front are irrelevant right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:39:51 PM
I just hope Kristi and Jen van finish this quick I don't want BB or the very boring debates to win if the debates win they will be the borinest winners ever
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:40:04 PM
Kristi & Jen and Cody & Jessica finds their pieces within an hour and 11 minutes. Meanwhile, this is a Roadblock and Jen and Jessica working on the correct plane organization.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:41:02 PM
This is probably the toughest final Roadblock since TAR12.... come on come on...
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: NumfarPTB on February 21, 2018, 09:41:20 PM
Amazing Memory Challenge. Reminds me of the task items from 12 or surfboards from 14.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:41:29 PM
Omg this is such a tight race
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:42:28 PM
Jen has 8 correct and 4 incorrect. Henry & Evan get back into the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:43:30 PM
Nonononono
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:43:50 PM
Jessica gets half/half while Henry is quickly putting on pieces.

Jessica and Jen are super confused with Iceland, while Jen realizes the fishes are from Tangier.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:44:43 PM
Henry uses a different strategy just sticking pieces onto the plane. All partners yelling out to their partners.

And Henry checks..... he is uncleared. Half/half.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
All teams checking and not cleared.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:45:24 PM
And.....
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:46:11 PM
Frustration starting to kick in for real and now unsure what they are missing.

Commercials.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 09:48:13 PM
Best memory challenge in years! :colors
Seriously loving this.

I just hope Kristi and Jen van finish this quick I don't want BB or the very boring debates to win if the debates win they will be the borinest winners ever
:cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 09:49:27 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/City%20Hall%20clue%20box.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet%201.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet%202.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet%203.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet%204.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet%205.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet%206.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet%207.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Hornet8.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:51:41 PM
We come back to teams working hard. Kristi is knee-height in anticipation. All teams at special intensity never before seen.

Jen gets unchecked and still 8 correct with 4 incorrect.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:52:25 PM
Henry intially has ALL correct... but takes a pair and swaps them. Uncleared.
Jessica is still uncleared with the same amount.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:53:15 PM
And.... JESSICA IS CLEARED FOR TAKEOFF
She must push the plane to her partner for flight.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:54:04 PM
BREAKING NEWS: CODY & JESSICA ARRIVE AT THE FINISH LINE!

Cody & Jessica, I'm pleased to tell you, you've won The Amazing Race and have won the $1 million!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:54:26 PM
No :furious:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:55:14 PM
 :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :grupo: :grupo: :grupo: :grupo:
1ST PLACE: Cody & Jessica
 :dance: :dance: :dance:

"We'll be together for a long time!"

And Henry & Evan finish! They come to the mat in 2ND PLACE!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:55:39 PM
At least the debates didn't win
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 21, 2018, 09:56:17 PM
Guess people can't say that Jess did nothing now, eh?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: NumfarPTB on February 21, 2018, 09:56:26 PM
Amazing legs, not my favorite winners among the final 3.
Still not buying the most competitive season narrative.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Yale and BB were minutes away from each other, one of the closest finishes in a long time!

And thus, Kristi & Jen are finally cleared for takeoff. Jen cries and pities over her fault. They arrive at the Finish Line in 3RD PLACE.
"That was a hard moment and I feel I let her down." - Jen

Phil assures she did amazing and didn't let her down.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 09:56:57 PM
Team extreme is marked to be on next returning season for sure
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: HavaDrPepper on February 21, 2018, 09:58:02 PM
I absolutely LOVED this whole season!

One of the best finales ever.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 09:58:31 PM
Number of leg wins:

Extreme/ Jody / Yale / Ocean rescue : 2
Indy car:  3
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 21, 2018, 09:58:48 PM
True and pls don't bring back the debates I am so done withe the collage talk ugh
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 09:58:57 PM
*Henry gets the puzzle right*
*doesn't ask for a check*
*changes one of the pieces to a wrong one*
Evan: Henry, good job!

:cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: G.B. on February 21, 2018, 09:59:08 PM
Worst. Season. Ever.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 09:59:28 PM
Kristi & Jen loved every moment of the race. Henry & Evan say the experiences will be cherished forever. And Cody says he loved his time on the race.

PHOTO FINISH AT NIGHT!

End credits. It's over guys. Season 30 is a wrap.

So comments, cheers, jeers, whatever you want to get off your shoulders. Feel free to discuss!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
*Henry gets the puzzle right*
*doesn't ask for a check*
*changes one of the pieces to a wrong one*
Evan: Henry, good job!

:cmaslol
Oh man, what a simple change can do to you in the race... he's gonna be kicking himself a for a while with that fault. Sigh.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 21, 2018, 10:01:16 PM
 Well, it's been a great first season tracking the race both during filming and during airing here on RFF for me. Thanks everyone and I look forward to TAR 31!!  :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 10:02:02 PM
What was NOT shown during the Final task was that TWO teams had chosen to keep  their taxis and HAD to stop the task and come out to pay.

Debate and Skiers

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/teams%20flight%20suits2.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Team%20marked.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 10:02:39 PM
Worst. Season. Ever.
Mine are still 24 and 28 by a long stretch, but this season isn't as high as several of the others in my rankings.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Joberio on February 21, 2018, 10:03:01 PM
Team extreme is marked to be on next returning season for sure
They really fell apart these last two legs.  But at least now that they have at least three women's team who could meet this distinction, they might indeed have another season of returnees.  I hope that Kym & Alli and Tiffany & Krista are the other two, if they decide to cast three.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 10:03:36 PM
GREAT AMAZING JOB RACHEL!!


:tu :tu
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 21, 2018, 10:04:01 PM
WHat was NOT shown during the Final task was that TWO teams had not paid their taxis and HAD to stop the task and come out to pay.

Debate and Skiers

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/teams%20flight%20suits2.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Team%20marked.jpg)

That explains how Jody caught up to the Skiers in finding the plane parts
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: G.B. on February 21, 2018, 10:04:18 PM
The last time I had winners I was actually happy with was Season 24. We got down to the final EIGHT teams and all but one of them I would have been happy winning, and of course not a one of them won. Instead two despicable human beings get to win a million dollars.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 10:04:23 PM
Top 5 season <3333
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 10:04:48 PM
Worst. Season. Ever.
Nothing can really beat season 4 or season 16 to me in terms of worst season
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 10:04:58 PM
WHat was NOT shown during the Final task was that TWO teams had not paid their taxis and HAD to stop the task and come out to pay.

Debate and Skiers

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/teams%20flight%20suits2.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Team%20marked.jpg
Daaamn, that might very well be the reason Yale didn't win.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 21, 2018, 10:06:17 PM
The last time I had winners I was actually happy with was Season 24. We got down to the final EIGHT teams and all but one of them I would have been happy winning, and of course not a one of them won. Instead two despicable human beings get to win a million dollars.

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Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Platrium on February 21, 2018, 10:06:31 PM
(lurking today haha)

Wow! Sounds fun and exciting for a 2-hour finale. :nut:

Henry got it right at first!? :(I can't find the facepalm emoji):

I wanna see Kristi & Jen in the next returning racers season. :torche If they do, I predict they might not do as well as they did this season. Never placing below 3rd automatically marks them off as a threat. If the cowboys were U-turned out on both all-star seasons they were in, what more with a strong FF team like Kristi & Jen? :(
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 10:06:36 PM
The last time I had winners I was actually happy with was Season 24. We got down to the final EIGHT teams and all but one of them I would have been happy winning, and of course not a one of them won. Instead two despicable human beings get to win a million dollars.

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Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 10:07:51 PM
The last time I had winners I was actually happy with was Season 24. We got down to the final EIGHT teams and all but one of them I would have been happy winning, and of course not a one of them won. Instead two despicable human beings get to win a million dollars.


I'm sorry, hate to discuss past seasons, but didn't Dave just cry about being U-Turned and complained for most of the season?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: G.B. on February 21, 2018, 10:08:01 PM
I'm not sorry. I have to endure almost everybody here badmouthing Dave & Connor literally all the time, so I think I'm allowed to do it for a team that I despise just as much.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Big Mother on February 21, 2018, 10:08:49 PM
I'M SHOCKED!!!
I thought they woudl come in third!
no one saw this coming! wow!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 21, 2018, 10:09:14 PM
I'm not sorry. I have to endure almost everybody here badmouthing Dave & Connor literally all the time, so I think I'm allowed to do it for a team that I despise just as much.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: TravelTheWorld on February 21, 2018, 10:12:58 PM
I knew they won this whole time!!! So incredibly proud of my favorites my friends were never wrong and I should have never doubted
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 10:13:03 PM
I'm not sorry. I have to endure almost everybody here badmouthing Dave & Connor literally all the time, so I think I'm allowed to do it for a team that I despise just as much.

(lurking today haha)

Wow! Sounds fun and exciting for a 2-hour finale. :nut:

Henry got it right at first!? :(I can't find the facepalm emoji):

I wanna see Kristi & Jen in the next returning racers season. :torche If they do, I predict they might not do as well as they did this season. Never placing below 3rd automatically marks them off as a threat. If the cowboys were U-turned out on both all-star seasons they were in, what more with a strong FF team like Kristi & Jen? :(
Why would you just spoil yourself if you're not watching???
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 10:15:13 PM
I'm not sorry. I have to endure almost everybody here badmouthing Dave & Connor literally all the time, so I think I'm allowed to do it for a team that I despise just as much.
I think there's quite a big difference between hating a racer's/team's mentality and outright calling somebody despicable without any given reason.

(lurking today haha)

Wow! Sounds fun and exciting for a 2-hour finale. :nut:

Henry got it right at first!? :(I can't find the facepalm emoji):

I wanna see Kristi & Jen in the next returning racers season. :torche If they do, I predict they might not do as well as they did this season. Never placing below 3rd automatically marks them off as a threat. If the cowboys were U-turned out on both all-star seasons they were in, what more with a strong FF team like Kristi & Jen? :(
Why would you just spoil yourself if you're not watching???
In Asian timezones we are hard to catch it up on live  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on February 21, 2018, 10:17:52 PM
What I love about TAR is how unpredictable the winners are! (At least for me)

In S28, I thought there was no chance in hell Matt & Dana were winning because of how negatively Dana was edited.

S29, same for Brooke.

S30, for some reason Jody's edit screamed 2nd or 3rd place.  I found Yale to be boring, which made me worry they'd have a higher chance of winning.

And all that talk about Kristi & Jen being the next F/F team to win? All just to throw us off.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 10:21:09 PM
Skiers were honestly the best editing misdirection I can remember.
The San Francisco bridge in their intro, the constant talk of past F/F winners, the overwhelmingly postiive edit... Of course they still made history as the first team ever not to fall below 3rd place, but I was so sure they were gonna win!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: G.B. on February 21, 2018, 10:21:38 PM
I'm not sorry. I have to endure almost everybody here badmouthing Dave & Connor literally all the time, so I think I'm allowed to do it for a team that I despise just as much.
I think there's quite a big difference between hating a racer's/team's mentality and outright calling somebody despicable without any given reason.

They behaved horribly and rude all the time, and I hated watching them whenever they were on screen. When they got U-Turned, Jessica got all salty and passive-aggressive towards L&B, meanwhile I'm like "You JUST U-Turned a team for no reason two legs ago, are you kidding me?"

I cannot stand Big Brother contestants, and I would be very happy if I never saw any more on this show.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 10:28:07 PM
You know that without U-Turning Violinists, Jody would've been out in Prague, right?

There was mutual dislike between Brittany and Jessica, who felt there was no NEED for a team in first place to use the U-Turn. Things got personal, and if you've never disliked anyone, maybe you won't understand her reaction.

I love how real Jessica & Cody are, and I don't live in a utopian world where everybody is nice all the time and walks around with a smile to put on a show. So I'm extremely happy for them, and they definitely deserve it all!

Good night everyone, this was an incredible season. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 10:29:31 PM
Reasons for returning

Extreme: 
(UB2) leading the finale until a final roadblock causing their downfall, and never finish below 3rd over the race
(AS3) highest-average placing FF teams

Indy car:
(UB2) falling short of final 3 despite winning the most number of legs
(AS3) their unique friendship among all other Male teams

Yales :
(UB2) Falling short of winning just because of Henry deciding not to get a check for final roadblock
(AS3) I don't see them having a chance to come back after the constant bashing towards Evan by casuals
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 10:38:22 PM
We are NOT rude to each other here. Please do NOT comment on others posts if you cannot be nice.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 21, 2018, 10:41:18 PM
Reasons for returning

Extreme: 
(UB2) leading the finale until a final roadblock causing their downfall, and never finish below 3rd over the race
(AS3) highest-average placing FF teams

Indy car:
(UB2) falling short of final 3 despite winning the most number of legs
(AS3) their unique friendship among all other Male teams

Yales :
(UB2) Falling short of winning just because of Henry deciding not to get a check for final roadblock
(AS3) I don't see them having a chance to come back after the constant bashing towards Evan by casuals

Definitely wouldn't mind seeing the Skiers or Indycar return. Wouldn't really wanna see Yale again.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ZBC Company on February 21, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
What a great leg
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ilovetoread on February 21, 2018, 10:57:44 PM
Why wouldn’t they have paid for their taxis? Surely they thought this was the last stop? They’d done so much!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 21, 2018, 10:58:48 PM
Why wouldn’t they have paid for their taxis? Surely they thought this was the last stop? They’d done so much!
Only 3 seasons have set the location of last task as finish line. Season 24/27/28
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 11:02:25 PM
Why wouldn’t they have paid for their taxis? Surely they thought this was the last stop? They’d done so much!

Not a bad decision actually.

They were MILES away from SF, in the dark, in a locked down location.

Had there been another task they would have been up the creek with no hope of getting a taxi.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 11:04:31 PM
Did I BLINK and MISS it?

How could they NOT show the most beautiful shot of the night?

CITY HALL lit up in TAR Red and Yellow?

Teams did NOT go directly from Cookies to Hornet.

They went to City Hall to collect the clue that sent them to the Hornet.


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/City%20Hall.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/City%20Hall%20clue%20box.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/DSC_0350.jpg)


Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: theschnauzers on February 21, 2018, 11:06:01 PM
If I had picked a team pre-season to win, I would have gotten it right. Jess came through on completing that last task, but Cody’s skill set was tremendous as they were the third team to start the final task, but still got all their pieces first, not to mention making fortune cookies.

So am I satisfied with season 30? Yes I am. As I’ve commented elsewhere this season has been the best, most competitive, balanced season in tasks, route, and casting in a long time, with a lot of the season one vibe running all through it. I have Ben saying since around season 20or so TPTB needed to get back to the early seasons with tasks, routes, and casting. And they now have, and got this gem of a season.

(Not to mention the ratings in pre-Olympics January.)

And PS the lit city hall was shown.

I didn’t see any taxi issues referenced in any way. A penalty affecting placement or outcome would have been mentioned, including taxis (season 7, anyone?)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Platrium on February 21, 2018, 11:13:16 PM
(lurking today haha)

Wow! Sounds fun and exciting for a 2-hour finale. :nut:

Henry got it right at first!? :(I can't find the facepalm emoji):

I wanna see Kristi & Jen in the next returning racers season. :torche If they do, I predict they might not do as well as they did this season. Never placing below 3rd automatically marks them off as a threat. If the cowboys were U-turned out on both all-star seasons they were in, what more with a strong FF team like Kristi & Jen? :(
Why would you just spoil yourself if you're not watching???
In Asian timezones we are hard to catch it up on live  :jam:

cbacbacba1 is right. :jam:
Also, I would've checked Wikipedia or Twitter due to a lack of self-control when it comes to TAR spoilers. :funny: Might as well spoil myself in detail like I did back in the day. :P
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Platrium on February 21, 2018, 11:17:40 PM
Henry & Evan were boring!? I think they weren't, especially with Evan being very strategic and competitive. It's like she had some sort of villain edit at some points.

Kristi & Jen may not have won, but they're still winners to me since they're the only FF team never to go below the Top 3 and also the FF team with the highest average (as a result of the former). :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ilovetoread on February 21, 2018, 11:20:58 PM
Why wouldn’t they have paid for their taxis? Surely they thought this was the last stop? They’d done so much!

Not a bad decision actually.

They were MILES away from SF, in the dark, in a locked down location.

Had there been another task they would have been up the creek with no hope of getting a taxi.

Oh yeah.  Because the taxi ride is sometimes what causes the change in place! Crazy.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 21, 2018, 11:56:22 PM
Just a random afterthought, but it would've been cool if they somehow edited in the moment during Cody's goodbye message to Jessica during Big Brother where he basically told Jessica that she gave up $500,000 for him, and he will re-pay her. Worked out pretty well lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Snausages on February 21, 2018, 11:59:09 PM
The only reason Big Brother won is because they gutted the number of roadblocks. Jessica got carried by Cody, and that's bull**** imo.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: zuzuspetals on February 22, 2018, 12:19:48 AM
Why wouldn’t they have paid for their taxis? Surely they thought this was the last stop? They’d done so much!

Not a bad decision actually.

They were MILES away from SF, in the dark, in a locked down location.

Had there been another task they would have been up the creek with no hope of getting a taxi.

Oh yeah.  Because the taxi ride is sometimes what causes the change in place! Crazy.


Wasn't the cluebox "This is it !" on the dock next to the Hornet ?  If so, then the run back to the taxis shouldn't have taken that long.

Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: BourkieBoy on February 22, 2018, 12:22:13 AM
WHAT A LEG!!! <33333

THAT is the best finale leg in recent memory!

Sad that Skiers didn't win (they deserved it), but BB winning... Er...
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: NELs on February 22, 2018, 01:19:51 AM
I just watched the finale, and it was probably the best edited episode in this season. The Hong Kong leg was amazing at night! The tasks were amazing. The crab task was good, looked hard. The serving task had a great language barrier. The Roadblock could've been better(really smashing old electronics is the best you could think of.) The mini memory challenge was good.

Two night legs in a row was a great idea. The San Francisco leg is probably the best finale in recent seasons. All the tasks were great. The Kayak task was a great task and let the racers ask the people of the city. The Bridge Task was a great extreme task this season. The Fortune Cookie Task was a bit lame for a final leg. The final memory challenge was the best one in recent seasons.

Hong Kong 5/5 for being a great penultimate leg
San Francisco 5/5 for being a great night final leg
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: nrh2110 on February 22, 2018, 01:28:10 AM
Okay first leg.

I'm REALLY happy with this Hong Kong leg. I was actually quite surprised when I found out they were going back to Hong Kong so soon, considering they just went there in 27, and they already did another country from 27 (Zimbabwe). That being said, this leg blew my expectations. The detour choices were some of the best detour choices this season. I think what the racers didn't realize is that if you did it right, the waiting detour was so much easier, but I still think both turned out great.

The roadblock was a bit disappointing. I thought it was a little too easy. Imo, I think what they could've done to really make this the perfect leg would've been to do a final switchback to TAR 17's eating roadblock, but seeing as they already went to a restaurant for one task, I guess it was pretty clear that that wasn't gonna happen.

That being said, the final task made up for it. Really happy with how it played out, and it was kind of cool that they brought a memory task early, which I wish they did more. Sad about Indy getting eliminated, but still a great leg. Really happy about Henry and Evan winning that leg; imo they receive too much hate, and I really don't like how the editing painted Evan as a villain despite not really doing anything wrong.

Now the second leg.

San Francisco has been long overdue! I'm surprised this is the first time in the newer seasons (I consider 18 the turning point because they changed the resolution and quality) that they went to San Francisco, considering it was one of the more visited American cities in earlier seasons. Also REALLY happy that they finally did a season without LA, as my worry when I saw the New York start was that it would be an LA finish.

Now onto the leg.

First task I think turned out to be easier than it should've been, just by luck of Jody finding the balls so fast despite having none of the three numbers the first time. Second task too, I think turned out to be more of a flop, but I think maybe it was because of the editing. (Also was it really the highest ascension? Was it higher than the Honolulu one from TAR 20?)

Loved the fortune cookie task. That task proved a bit harder than it seemed it should've been, which I liked.

Final task. Wow. The way they described the task made it seem so easy, and I was worried it was going to be too easy, specifically the assembly, but as you all saw, that was not the case. I think effectively, this was kind of a recreation of the final task from TAR 12 due to the logic involved, and as I think RFF agrees, that was one of the best final memory challenges of all time, and because of this, I think this was one of the best memory challenges of all time. Totally made up for the easiness of last season's memory challenge.
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Yes, I'm not happy with the winners. Never liked Jody. Was really pulling for the other two teams and it KILLED me when Henry had the right combination and didn't get it checked. Oh well. That's four seasons in a row where I have not been a fan of the winner, so maybe 31 will be the season for me.

All in all, one of the best final legs of recent seasons. Last season's final leg was the low point of its season imo, but this season's was one of the high points and totally makes up for it.

Of the seasons since the last All-Stars, my current ranking is now 25, 29, 30, 28, 27, 26, but there's a good gap between 30 and 28. I really hope TAR keeps up a streak of good seasons because that's two great seasons in a row after having two meh and one bad season.

Also, quick side note, did anybody else notice that Phil said the wrong number of countries? He said 9 countries when there were 10. Has this ever happened before?

Here's to an end to a great season and [hopefully] TAR 31!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Winteriscoming on February 22, 2018, 03:51:21 AM
The only reason Big Brother won is because they gutted the number of roadblocks. Jessica got carried by Cody, and that's bull**** imo.

Did you miss the last 15 minutes of the episode where she was forced to do the final task by herself and beat Jen and Henry and ran to the finish line or did you just chose to ignore it?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Maanca on February 22, 2018, 04:04:50 AM
What was that correct symbol for leg 12 supposed to be, a pistol? Inquiring Wikipedia editor wants to know :P
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Musicon on February 22, 2018, 04:59:11 AM
It was a good final episode, there have been some weak ones in recent years with a team getting ahead early and weak memory tasks to close.  I would have liked the finish mat to be harder to find than just a straight run in, but otherwise it had plenty of classic Amazing Race suspense.

And I was happy with the top 2, they had more character than 3/4.  And Indy were likely the weakest of those left so being cut at 4 was right.  And interesting teams with clear strengths but also faults that they had to work on.

I wouldn't mind Henry/Evan coming back for an unfinished business season.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Musicon on February 22, 2018, 05:03:36 AM
Yales :
(UB2) Falling short of winning just because of Henry deciding not to get a check for final roadblock
(AS3) I don't see them having a chance to come back after the constant bashing towards Evan by casuals

Casuals will want boring teams back, so definitely don't want to go by what they want.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: violetb1911 on February 22, 2018, 05:54:39 AM
Such a disappointment to see Jody win after one of the most well-structured races in TAR history. imo they definitely didn't deserve it, but when Jessica came through and constructed her plane first, I felt that she redeemed this karmic burden off of her back. I wouldn't say its an unjust victory ( *cough* season 29 *cough* ) but definitely would have preferred Kristi and Jen winning.
High point of the double length finale:
--> The tasks. The tasks really stole the show for me. The quality and the difficulty of the tasks has improved manifold from previous seasons (*cough* season 28 *cough*).
--> Henry and Evan's comeback. One of the only 3 teams to completely recover from a speed bump to win 1st place.

Low point of the double length finale:
where do I start!
--> Alex and Conor being disrespectful to the guy who clicked their photographs. (That really pissed me off.)
--> Alex and Conor getting frustrated over the crabs. I get it, it's a tough challenge. Get over it.
--> Kristi not reading the clue properly before smashing the electronics and then wincing. #readyourclue !!!
--> Both Kristi and Jen and Alex and Conor neglecting that rando dude's advice. I get that he (might have been) was drunk, but there was a reason why he was pointing at it!
--> Conor accusing Henry of lying and getting offended over Evan not openly helping them. It's a race, million dollars are literally on the line, what makes you think Evan will literally give away her lead?
--> Cody and Jessica miraculously getting the 6-6-0 balls immediately after finding out its 660. Kristi and Jen intuitively found it out and they deserved more of a lead.
--> Evan and Henry having several miscommunications and breakdowns. They were all over the place in the final task.
--> Kristi's breakdown in leg 11 and Jen's breakdown in the final roadblock. Nobody ever saw them this disoriented. These last few legs really wrecked em'.
--> Henry getting the plane correct but switching it at the last moment. I wasn't really rooting for them to win, but ah it was so close.
--> Cody and Jessica winning the race *sigh*

All in all, even though there were so many disappointing things, it's life. All in all this season was phenomenal and I'm looking forward to s31, (hopefully?) this year. If not a new season, an AS or UB. Those were pretty fun! ( *cough* season 24 *cough* )

Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: TheRabbi on February 22, 2018, 07:03:31 AM
I've been reading through the spoiler threads now that it's over. I'm sad they edited out the bit at city hall! I saw a quick shot in one of the montages and noted it was cool that the building was red and yellow lighting and wondered if it had anything to do with the show. Shame.

Really enjoyed the finale, even with preferring different winners.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: TheRabbi on February 22, 2018, 07:12:10 AM

Of the seasons since the last All-Stars, my current ranking is now 25, 29, 30, 28, 27, 26, but there's a good gap between 30 and 28. I really hope TAR keeps up a streak of good seasons because that's two great seasons in a row after having two meh and one bad season.


I like this game! I've gotta go 28 - 30 - 25 - 27 - 29 - 26. Just didn't care for either of the 'strangers' themed seasons. Something was really lacking there. I was expecting to loathe the social media season, but it shattered my expectations and I loved it. I also loved this season. 25 and 27 are in the middle for me: both good seasons, but not up to 28 and 30's quality.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: CocoNuts on February 22, 2018, 07:29:54 AM

Of the seasons since the last All-Stars, my current ranking is now 25, 29, 30, 28, 27, 26, but there's a good gap between 30 and 28. I really hope TAR keeps up a streak of good seasons because that's two great seasons in a row after having two meh and one bad season.


I like this game! I've gotta go 28 - 30 - 25 - 27 - 29 - 26. Just didn't care for either of the 'strangers' themed seasons. Something was really lacking there. I was expecting to loathe the social media season, but it shattered my expectations and I loved it. I also loved this season. 25 and 27 are in the middle for me: both good seasons, but not up to 28 and 30's quality.

Im going 25 - 30 - 27 - 28 - 29 - 26
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Declive on February 22, 2018, 08:18:20 AM
Loved the final episode and the season.

I was frustrated that Alex & Conor weren't there to race to the finish line, but they were really cranky in Hong Kong and didn't deserved it.

And i loved Jessica being the hero. I'm a big big fan of her.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: TheRabbi on February 22, 2018, 08:38:15 AM
The various things I'm reading are hinting that there was some drama at the finish line about teams that hadn't paid their cabs yet. Does anyone know more about this?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Alenaveda on February 22, 2018, 08:49:32 AM
The various things I'm reading are hinting that there was some drama at the finish line about teams that hadn't paid their cabs yet. Does anyone know more about this?

What was NOT shown during the Final task was that TWO teams had chosen to keep  their taxis and HAD to stop the task and come out to pay.

Debate and Skiers

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/teams%20flight%20suits2.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/FINALE/Team%20marked.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: paradoxinee on February 22, 2018, 08:54:13 AM
People should stop saying that the winning team didn't deserve to win. Unless they cheated to win or were rigged to win (which is a NO), they deserved it. You love them or hate them, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: TheRabbi on February 22, 2018, 09:02:00 AM
Thanks Alenaveda. Lot of threads to wade through, especially when I haven't checked the spoilers before the episodes.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ilovetoread on February 22, 2018, 10:53:46 AM
I really liked Team Extreme, but they fell apart these last two legs. They never lost their cool the entire race and both of them had meltdowns, was it because they finally had tasks that they couldn't finish as quickly as they had others? I still love them, but it was a huge contrast to the previous episodes.

Also, what was up with Conor and Alex? They were so short and rude to everyone and about every task. I wonder if something happened behind the scenes because although Conor usually gave up quickly, he was never that ugly to people as he was on the Hong Kong leg. Was it just the pressure?

Poor Henry. I wonder if he only found out he had it right last night? Will Evan forgive him? Seriously, I wonder. Especially after the extra footage scenes with Phil asking them about being soul mates and neither being able to answer the question. Phil's awkward questions have got to go!

Jessica and Cody make a great team. Yes Cody beasted most of the comps, but they wouldn't even have been in the race if Jessica hasn't gotten Cody through the singing challenge. Her attention to detail and focus balances Cody's rambo-style of wanting to just kill every task without thinking. I'm shocked they did so well with him having less than a week after leaving the poisonous situation on Big Brother before starting the race. I'm very happy for them.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: elthemagnifico on February 22, 2018, 11:30:25 AM
Ive just invested the best 2 hour season finale of a tv show ive ever had....

Lets start with Hongkong Leg! Last penultimate leg (S29) we were served one the most exciting and intense penultimate leg ever in TAR history, and now, in Hongkong the crews served us its magical again.

The detour choices were really good, Physical and detail task vs Language and Mental barrier. The crabs reminded me from S12 but with different style and concept, while the Messenger task reminded me from S14, but with Cantonese. It is really good since you have to jump the barrier from either crabs or Chinese speaking customers. The crab seemed easier but with well alive crab and its quantity, it was sure a hell for short-patience player. Language barrier seemed hard, but its easier since there were translations in the dish and you could just recognize by hearing the intonation to be written.

RB seemed like a just-do-for-fun task which was fine for me to cool down the tension, but the next task was a killer. Finding a crypted signs in the crowded hangover ppl was really frustating, especially when you dont know, what kind of sign needed. This task was a game changer for everybody, and i loved it. I also loved about how crews made it as a mini series task from the RB, and 'punishment' concept. It was spot on.  Best task of the race since Zimbabwe's concert and Jason Bourne-esque RB.

Overall, it was a funtastic legs for sure, another best penultimate leg from TAR, and best Hongkong leg since last visit.


Going to San Fransisco! The tasks was good. Finding the balls from the lake was cool since not only we have to search the right balls, but we have tp make sure what kinda 'balls' needed. It was requiring a physical, coordination, and especially communication. I liked it. Next we climbed to One of the suspensions of the SF bridge and bungee jumping to the pitch black below. It was a good linear high task since they also needed upper body strength to get to up there.

Next, a cryptic clue to Fortune cookie's factory in Golden Gate. This task was good, attentiom needed and detail oriented. But the best of the best ever on this season came from military ship. The final task. The super freaking, frustating, and tvworthy memory challenge ever to date, since 12 and 21. The best final task/memory challenge task ive ever seen. It was basically a task that requires to search 12 specific parts, with stickers representing each leg, and put it to assemble the plane according to required combination. This task was a combination of ARI+RB, which i loved it, and the required combination for the the parts was really cool and made the puzzle even harder. This taks really needed everything, especially the fundamental part of TAR. I really loved watching member teams were struggled to put in pieces, and try figure it out the right combination. This was the final task that every fans, oldie or newbie wanted for, and it fulfilled.

For the winner, even though i didnt root Cody x Jessica, the are deserved, since it is the finale leg. And tbh, no matter how many legs you have won, if you sucked at finale, you wouldnt win. And Jody, especially Jessica performed better game than  any other teams, so they really deserved it. But i kinda hoping that Skiers and Indies got returned for AS/UB. (And also the lifeguards)

Overall, this was a really good season, if not the best. There were still flaws in this season, and i preferred Season 29 more, nevertheless, it was such a enjoyable season, definitely top 5 seasons imo. It started at rock bottom, and it ended on flying colors. Hoping for another great seasons onward

Edit: my rank for TAR post AS2 would be

29 > 25 > 30 > 28 > 26 > 27
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: elthemagnifico on February 22, 2018, 11:41:04 AM
**looked up for TAR reddit, especially dpthe live discussion and post discussion thread, and it was really cance than ive ever expected before, some just bashing on winners and mocking to other team's rooter instead of appreciating the finale leg itself*
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Musicon on February 22, 2018, 12:06:39 PM
**looked up for TAR reddit, especially dpthe live discussion and post discussion thread, and it was really cance than ive ever expected before, some just bashing on winners and mocking to other team's rooter instead of appreciating the finale leg itself*

Cross casting will always bring some hate, but it will also bring in viewers.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Neobie on February 22, 2018, 12:57:20 PM
I assume the thing in the bottom-right are the handcuffs from Hong Kong, but what's that crank in the top-right, presumably from St-Tropez?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Maanca on February 22, 2018, 12:59:53 PM
I assume the thing in the bottom-right are the handcuffs from Hong Kong, but what's that crank in the top-right, presumably from St-Tropez?

That's the one that I was stumped on, too, when writing the Wikipedia table last night. St-Tropez was the oar, I thought.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: HavaDrPepper on February 22, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
I assume the thing in the bottom-right are the handcuffs from Hong Kong, but what's that crank in the top-right, presumably from St-Tropez?

That's the one that I was stumped on, too, when writing the Wikipedia table last night. St-Tropez was the oar, I thought.

St-Tropez was building the trebuchet while their partner was in the stocks. No water in this leg.

Oops, was reading MAFS summaries wrong. Disregard.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Neobie on February 22, 2018, 01:16:42 PM
How to solve the final challenge, using Jessica's pieces:

Propeller
- Map of Arles (Arles, 5)/Train (Imire, 7) [the map really points to Lyon, but I'll be generous here]
- Pontoon (Imire, 7)/Scales (Bahrain, 9)
Wings
- Drinking horn (Iceland, 1)/Rope ladder (Antwerp, 2)
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Fish (Tangiers, 3)
- Fries (Antwerp, 2)/Elephant (Chiang Mai, 10)
- Fish (Tangiers, 3)/Fortune cookie (San Francisco, 12)
Tail fin
- Magnifying glass (Prague, 6)/Paddle (San Francisco, 12)
- Tyre (Harare, 8 )/Scorpion (Chiang Mai, 10)
Tailplanes
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Falcon (Bahrain, 9)
- Rudder (St-Tropez, 4)/Handcuffs (Hong Kong, 11)
- Knight (Arles, 5)/Microphone (Harare, 8 )
- Beer spa (Prague, 6)/Baseball bats (Hong Kong, 11)

1. Even if we didn't know what the rudder was, there isn't anything from St-Tropez. So we assume it's from there and this goes on the plane.
2. The handcuffs take care of Hong Kong, so we eliminate the bats.

Propeller
- Map of Arles (Arles, 5)/Train (Imire, 7)
- Pontoon (Imire, 7)/Scales (Bahrain, 9)
Wings
- Drinking horn (Iceland, 1)/Rope ladder (Antwerp, 2)
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Fish (Tangiers, 3)
- Fries (Antwerp, 2)/Elephant (Chiang Mai, 10)
- Fish (Tangiers, 3)/Fortune cookie (San Francisco, 12)
Tail fin
- Magnifying glass (Prague, 6)/Paddle (San Francisco, 12)
- Tyre (Harare, 8 )/Scorpion (Chiang Mai, 10)
Tailplanes
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Falcon (Bahrain, 9)
- Rudder (St-Tropez, 4)/Handcuffs (Hong Kong, 11)
- Knight (Arles, 5)/Microphone (Harare, 8 )
- Beer spa (Prague, 6)/Baseball bats (Hong Kong, 11)

3. The only thing left from Prague is the magnifying glass, so this goes on the plane.
4. The paddle takes care of San Francisco, so we eliminate the fortune cookie.

Propeller
- Map of Arles (Arles, 5)/Train (Imire, 7)
- Pontoon (Imire, 7)/Scales (Bahrain, 9)
Wings
- Drinking horn (Iceland, 1)/Rope ladder (Antwerp, 2)
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Fish (Tangiers, 3)
- Fries (Antwerp, 2)/Elephant (Chiang Mai, 10)
- Fish (Tangiers, 3)/Fortune cookie (San Francisco, 12)
Tail fin
- Magnifying glass (Prague, 6)/Paddle (San Francisco, 12)
- Tyre (Harare, 8 )/Scorpion (Chiang Mai, 10)
Tailplanes
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Falcon (Bahrain, 9)
- Rudder (St-Tropez, 4)/Handcuffs (Hong Kong, 11)
- Knight (Arles, 5)/Microphone (Harare, 8 )
- Beer spa (Prague, 6)/Baseball bats (Hong Kong, 11)

5. The only thing left from Tangiers is the fish, so this goes on the plane.
6. The helmet takes care of Iceland, so we eliminate the drinking horn and the other helmet.
7. The only thing left from Bahrain are the scales, so this goes on the plane.

Propeller
- Map of Arles (Arles, 5)/Train (Imire, 7)
- Pontoon (Imire, 7)/Scales (Bahrain, 9)
Wings
- Drinking horn (Iceland, 1)/Rope ladder (Antwerp, 2)
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Fish (Tangiers, 3)
- Fries (Antwerp, 2)/Elephant (Chiang Mai, 10)
- Fish (Tangiers, 3)/Fortune cookie (San Francisco, 12)
Tail fin
- Magnifying glass (Prague, 6)/Paddle (San Francisco, 12)
- Tyre (Harare, 8 )/Scorpion (Chiang Mai, 10)
Tailplanes
- Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Falcon (Bahrain, 9)
- Rudder (St-Tropez, 4)/Handcuffs (Hong Kong, 11)
- Knight (Arles, 5)/Microphone (Harare, 8 )
- Beer spa (Prague, 6)/Baseball bats (Hong Kong, 11)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Snausages on February 22, 2018, 01:35:31 PM
The only reason Big Brother won is because they gutted the number of roadblocks. Jessica got carried by Cody, and that's bull**** imo.

Did you miss the last 15 minutes of the episode where she was forced to do the final task by herself and beat Jen and Henry and ran to the finish line or did you just chose to ignore it?

There hasn't been such a lopsided number of roadblocks since the old 11-1's.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ghostbusted on February 22, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
Is that crank like symbol the crank used to cock and arm the trebuchet? Also FYI I think the terms for the airplane tail parts are vertical and horizontal stabilizers. If they are all moving, then rudder and elevators.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Neobie on February 22, 2018, 01:43:36 PM
The Arles leg (with the trebuchet) is represented by the knight.
The St-Tropez leg is represented by the (badly-drawn) boat rudder, from the sailing challenge.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 22, 2018, 02:12:12 PM
Amazing analysis, Neobie! :colors

The only reason Big Brother won is because they gutted the number of roadblocks. Jessica got carried by Cody, and that's bull**** imo.

Did you miss the last 15 minutes of the episode where she was forced to do the final task by herself and beat Jen and Henry and ran to the finish line or did you just chose to ignore it?

There hasn't been such a lopsided number of roadblocks since the old 11-1's.
Nope, season 24 had lots of drama with RB counts.

Besides, I'm really surprised the memory challenge (not the part-gathering) wasn't a roadblock, since one team member was forced to do it. We should still appreciate how well Jessica did on it.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2018, 02:29:37 PM
Could someone NAME THESE ITEMS  please?  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Maanca on February 22, 2018, 02:36:05 PM
Oh, duh! Now I see what the upper-right is. A boat rudder, yeah.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: CocoNuts on February 22, 2018, 02:50:38 PM
Could someone NAME THESE ITEMS  please?  :funny:

1- helmet
2- frite
3- fish
4- boat rutter
5- knight
6- magnifying glass
7- canteen
8- microphone
9- weigh scales
10- elephants
11- handcuff on brief case
12- oar
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Xoruz on February 22, 2018, 02:56:43 PM
Two really good legs. Great final episode for TAR 30.

Leg 11

I'm usually a fan of night legs, and TAR has been producing great penultimate legs lately. So, I thought that Hong Kong gave a great leg. Recently rewatched TAR 21, and this leg reminded me of the Loire Valley with 3 teams trying to force out the Beekmans.

Props to Henry & Evan.

Alex & Conor were so much fun the whole way. It was sad to see them go out.

Lantern: Speed Bump was enough to drop Henry & Evan to last place, so it was effective.
Crab: Liked the typhoon. Liked teams working with crabs. Liked the strict judge.
Grub: It was an interesting twist on the Chinese Waiter Detour with memorizing the orders and identifying the dishes.
Rage Art: So many teams breaking bats. :funny: A month of racing will do that. Fun Roadblock.
Briefcase: Really enjoyed having a mini-memory task in the penultimate leg forcing teams to earn their spot. There were so many confusing signs, and even teams that tried all the combinations with two known numbers would've had a difficult time.

Great first half of the finale.

5/5


Leg 12

For what was billed as the most competitive season ever, we got a very competitive finale. It was anybody's leg, and I loved that. Phenomenal finale leg.

It is crazy that the second night finale is San Francisco, but I do love night legs.
For the record TAR 30 finale>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TAR 24 finale

Lou Seal :funny:

Classical music to close the season  :2hearts:

For the longest time, the edit highlighted Jessica hoping that she would not let Cody down. I had mostly thought that would happen coming into the final leg. Was surprised to see that as a winner quote.

Baseball: The kayak task was a nice opening to the leg. Looks like teams thought only correct balls would be numbered, so I liked that confusion.
Bay Bridge: Typical heights challenge.
Fortune Cookies: Liked the cryptic clue. Judge seems particular with the cookies. Also liked that the dough was hot.
Hornet: I have to agree. This task is probably up there with TAR 12 & 21 as one of the best memory challenges. Phenomenal end to the season. Searching the ship was a tiring open to the challenge. Forcing the person who did not complete the Roadblock was good as well. All the items seemed to be from the Race but only one combination was correct. Essentially it was a combination of the memory task from TAR 12 & 14, two of my favorites. Great closing task.

Congratulations to Jessica & Cody.
Congratulations to all the teams who raced.
Thank you to everyone involved in creating this season.
 :ty

5/5
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: BritishTARFan on February 22, 2018, 03:31:32 PM
I'm not a fan of Jody but it was a great season.

The Hong Kong leg was so good, especially the task in Lang Kwai Fong; the drunk people made it better  :funny:.

That memory task was so good and difficult but when Evan changed the correct answer I cringed so hard, they essentially won the race  :dick, I feel sorry for him when Evan watches  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on February 22, 2018, 07:32:08 PM
Did anyone catch the classic TAR finish line music playing at the finish line? I feel the last time I heard that was S17.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Gra1162 on February 22, 2018, 07:59:10 PM
The seasons winner isn't my favorite but nothing can't beat tar 25 Amy and Maya and tar 11 Eric and Daniel cause both of them don't deserve winning Dustin and Kandice should have won tar 11 and Adam and Bethany should have won tar 25 the whole season was horrible most of the task seems more less challenging and less difficult but nothing can beat tar 5 and tar 26.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: NELs on February 22, 2018, 08:08:23 PM
Did anyone catch the classic TAR finish line music playing at the finish line? I feel the last time I heard that was S17.

Yeah, and am I the only one that noticed music from the older seasons return in the first half of the San Francisco leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: zuzuspetals on February 22, 2018, 09:13:45 PM
Poor Henry. I wonder if he only found out he had it right last night? Will Evan forgive him? Seriously, I wonder. Especially after the extra footage scenes with Phil asking them about being soul mates and neither being able to answer the question.


I have a hunch that Henry and Evan are no longer together.  They have had zero presence on social media this season and they haven't been seen at any viewing parties (that I am aware of).

All the other teams like/love Henry.  And most of the other teams do not like Evan (and her stupid nose ring).  I have a feeling the same applies to most viewers and most of the TAR crew.  And it's all because of how she treated Henry throughout the entire race - every argument, every communication breakdown, every bump in the road, was Henry's fault.  He took her **** for a much longer period that someone without the patience of Job would have.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ilovetoread on February 22, 2018, 09:44:44 PM
They're still together. Rob interviewed all 4 teams today.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 22, 2018, 10:00:51 PM
They're still together. Rob interviewed all 4 teams today.
Glad to hear it! :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2018, 07:19:16 AM
Did anyone catch the classic TAR finish line music playing at the finish line? I feel the last time I heard that was S17.

Oh wow!! I am going to go re-listen now. WhooHoo!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2018, 09:07:32 AM
Anyone notice anything? #thisplanewon'tfly

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/MEDIA/EP%2012%20FINALE%20SF/Plane%20wings%20marked.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Tiger87 on February 23, 2018, 09:14:22 AM
I thought it was one of the most enjoyable seasons in a few years, and better than last year's BB. The teams were interesting without being annoying. There was a high level of performance. And the Face Off was a nice new twist that added a whole other layer of pressure.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 23, 2018, 09:18:06 AM
Anyone notice anything? #thisplanewon'tfly

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/MEDIA/EP%2012%20FINALE%20SF/Plane%20wings%20marked.jpg)

Jen said on Rob Has a Podcast that one of the hardest parts of the final challenge for her was that the clue said properly assemble a plane and solve the puzzle but in reality, "properly assembling" the plane was subservient to solving the puzzle and the final solution for everyone actually wasn't a proper assembly.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2018, 10:10:19 AM
I took flying lessons before I could drive. The first thing you learn about is lift and thrust and wind flow over the wing.

Quote
Jen said on Rob Has a Podcast that one of the hardest parts of the final challenge for her was that the clue said properly assemble a plane and solve the puzzle but in reality, "properly assembling" the plane was subservient to solving the puzzle and the final solution for everyone actually wasn't a proper assembly.

I don't think I could have gotten past assembling a plane with the wing on backwards either. With Jen's great attention to every detail this must have been excruciating.

I have AMAZING respect for the ART department on TAR. They are the ones who give us all the detailed clues, clue boxes, signs, and task creations that make TAR the wonderful show we all love.

But have to wish this had been caught before it was used in a FINAL TASK where every second counts.

I love this FINAL TASK and think it may be the most difficult Final Task ever. It had everything...memory, puzzle solving, physical effort. It required extraordinary attention to every detail.

But it would be a shame if this one strange detail caused any sort of a mental delay in solving the puzzle for any of the teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Cocoa on February 23, 2018, 10:53:44 AM
Evan is cardiovascularly exhausted and trying to catch up. Kristi and Cody are butt-to-butt at this point. But Cody still reaches the top first right before Kristi. Evan is struggling.

I love the edit for this leg! Feels like TAR12-17 now.

Cody is in some neon jumpsuit getting ready to JUMP!

Commercials.

Exactly! The best edited (in terms of scoring, transitions, and effects, and also the structure of Phil's spiels while narrating the tasks) seasons are from TAR 12-17, so it was pure joy for me to see it play out in the finale! Hopefully this style of editing shall continue for the next seasons to come!

Wow, that was a truly spectacular penultimate and finale leg! I LOOOOOOOOVE night legs and oh boy oh boy we're given TWO hours of it!

LEG 11 - Hong Kong
Seriously, I think HK has hosted the ALL excellent legs (in terms of design and difficulty) in TAR history (S02, S11, S17, part of S27, S30), so I will always look forward to HK. And wow, all of the tasks (well that RB was easy, but I guess it was necessary to have a slightly less engaging task) are great! And that LKF task was super difficult! And the fact that all teams are within inches from each other is crazy! But lol at the random pitstop hahaha (hey, we've got cow stables in Germany and Konno Hachimangu x 2 in Japan, so I guess any place could be pitstop-worthy nowadays hahaa)

5/5 will watch again

LEG 12 - SF
An amazing night finale! This is the only night finale, and boy it delivered! dont force me to acknowledge TAR24 as a season because everything in it sucked. The city hall in red and yellow would have been a cool feature, but I guess they dont have much time ahaha. EVIL finale task!!! Are the teams even allowed to use an empty paper and pen to solve it down, or is it all done mentally? CRAZY! Easily steals away the TAR12/13 amazing finale task to me.

I loooooove Henry and Evan so quite a bit bummed not to see them win. Also Alex and Conor, hope they return!!!

As for Jody? Hmmmm ok good winners, at least they are not disappointing (e.g. TK/Rachel, Eric/Danielle, Josh/Brent, and recent winners I legit forgot the names).

Amazing season 30!!!! Glad that we recovered from the slump! After S20-21, I kinda lost my TAR appetite, I was not as big of a fan as before. But soooo glad to be reminded of how much I loved TAR!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: HavaDrPepper on February 23, 2018, 11:02:00 AM
According to this interview (https://parade.com/648294/mikebloom/the-amazing-race-30-cody-nickson-and-jessica-graf-go-from-evicted-to-victorious/), Jessica used a process of elimination to solve the final puzzle. She said she would change a piece then get it checked and that she had it checked about 30 times.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: runningblind on February 23, 2018, 12:19:25 PM
it KILLED me when Henry had the right combination and didn't get it checked. Oh well.


This, just this...
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on February 23, 2018, 12:57:11 PM
got spoiled with the final result before able to watch it  :furious: Fortunately both legs were amazing.

Hong Kong: Night leg <333. Loved the detour, roadblock was OK, the final task was the best part with mini memory challenge. It was hard to find signs in a crowded area and the clue didn't say any specific sign. The fact that they need to remember the sign and use that number to open the briefcase and handcuff makes this task so cool. This is definitely one of the best penultimate legs (maybe the best) in TAR history 
Score: 10/10

San Fransisco: 2 night legs in a row <333. The final task was the highlight, one of the hardest final tasks. I just don't like the final task and the finish line were located at the same place  :nono2:
Score: 9/10

All final 4 deserve to win, but i was rooting for Henry/Evan more, especially after the other 3 teams were working together to knock them out.

Henry & Evan were boring!? I think they weren't, especially with Evan being very strategic and competitive. It's like she had some sort of villain edit at some points.

Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: boggart on February 24, 2018, 12:07:08 AM
The finale is great
All the tasks are hard enough to allow shuffling of placement throughout the leg
Actually I would say this season is overally good. At least unlike recent season, there are much less linear legs. The tasks are always not easy for team lagging behind to catch up

However, i have to say i dun really like the winner of this season.
While watching the interview, Jessica just kept saying that she defeated team Yale in written test but i would like to point out that she had a head start over Henry (although i dunno the exact length of the head start). I am pretty sure Henry spent less time than Jessica to finish this final task. I agree that they defeated Team Yale in the race, but in terms of the final memory task, I have conservation about her saying she defected Henry

Also, Cody accused Henry of copying Jessica’s work but where is the evidence? I am very annyed by his accusation without any evidence

I just feel they are so arrogant that i dislike...
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 24, 2018, 02:06:20 AM
The finale is great
All the tasks are hard enough to allow shuffling of placement throughout the leg
Actually I would say this season is overally good. At least unlike recent season, there are much less linear legs. The tasks are always not easy for team lagging behind to catch up

However, i have to say i dun really like the winner of this season.
While watching the interview, Jessica just kept saying that she defeated team Yale in written test but i would like to point out that she had a head start over Henry (although i dunno the exact length of the head start). I am pretty sure Henry spent less time than Jessica to finish this final task. I agree that they defeated Team Yale in the race, but in terms of the final memory task, I have conservation about her saying she defected Henry

Also, Cody accused Henry of copying Jessica’s work but where is the evidence? I am very annyed by his accusation without any evidence

I just feel they are so arrogant that i dislike...
Cody and Jessica irritated me a lot with their reactions in the past episode and the exit interview
1) They claimed Henry copied Jessica's work with no evidence
2) their reaction towards Yale's congratulation at the finish line
3) They literally said they were unhappy with Yale getting into final 3 directly next to Yale at the Hong Kong mat
4) Cody mentioning of not enjoyed travelling around the world constantly throught out the race, as well as in their exit interviews

I mean, you can dislike Yale. But your way of aliening them just show you are not good people either
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: serendipity on February 24, 2018, 03:00:23 AM
Finally caught the last 2 episodes, and got to say quite disappointed about the result.

The Hong Kong leg is generally great. Growing up in Hong Kong I always enjoy when TAR came to my city, and I always think the Peak should be visited as it is so beautiful, glad that they finally did it this time. If they also did a tram ride up the Peak that would be great! Detour is very good as well as it creates some challenge on either side, roadblock just meh and it doesn't represent any Hong Kong culture (what Phil said was not true and I have never seen any people here smashing electronics to release stress...). Last task at LKF is just awesome, and it is a genius plan to do it in a crowded place without letting them get people help easily, would be the best if they are not allowed to do trial and error without getting all 3 correct signs.

San Francisco leg is ok as a finale, not too many tasks involved and physical challenge seems a bit unfavourable to female racer here. The last task sounds good but too little information given, they should at least let us know what are the 12 patterns they need. Most importantly I am disappointed with the result, I am fine with anyone in F5 winning except BB, Cody is alright to me but Jessica is just hypocritical the whole time and got lucky with that final challenge. She has been the dead weight to Cody in both Bahrain and Hong Kong legs.

I would say the disappointment mostly comes from the misdirection from the producers, who always try to suggest Kristy/Jen likely winning. I thought they must win and Henry/Evan as dark horse, but never thought the final result is like now.

Hope a new TAR season coming soon to erase this bad memory...
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 24, 2018, 07:44:49 AM
The Hong Kong pitstop of TAR30 was not purely just a random street corner!  :hfive:

1. The tree at the Junction was planted by an American Country Singer John Denver in 1994  :jumpy:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Hong%20Kong/HK%20tree%20article-horz.jpg)
Source : 
(Left) Facebook page 'Hong Kong Taste 香港原味' https://www.facebook.com/hongkongtaste01/photos/a.1129330710505804.1073741837.183787531726798/1129331093839099/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/hongkongtaste01/photos/a.1129330710505804.1073741837.183787531726798/1129331093839099/?type=3&theater) 
(Right) live sighting photo by @vicdemort

photo merged by Peach

Back in 1994, a large scale greening project was carried out in the Wan Chai district. Among these 1000 trees planted in the project, this was one of the the only two trees planted by a celebrity, that is an American Country Singer John Denver (the other one was no. 600 by Chris Patten, the last Governor of Hong Kong before it was returned to China).

https://www.facebook.com/hongkongtaste01/photos/a.1129330710505804.1073741837.183787531726798/1129331093839099/?type=3

2. Besides, Joshston road was also the original coastline of Wan Chai before the large scale reclamation project back in the 1920s.  :girly


They should have made the racers guess the location of  pitstop instead of using the street board to shuffle the placement more!  >:(  :'(  :drama
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2018, 08:35:50 AM
Love knowing this,  :tu so much for sharing!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 24, 2018, 08:54:12 AM
Finally caught the last 2 episodes, and got to say quite disappointed about the result.

The Hong Kong leg is generally great. Growing up in Hong Kong I always enjoy when TAR came to my city, and I always think the Peak should be visited as it is so beautiful, glad that they finally did it this time. If they also did a tram ride up the Peak that would be great! Detour is very good as well as it creates some challenge on either side, roadblock just meh and it doesn't represent any Hong Kong culture (what Phil said was not true and I have never seen any people here smashing electronics to release stress...). Last task at LKF is just awesome, and it is a genius plan to do it in a crowded place without letting them get people help easily, would be the best if they are not allowed to do trial and error without getting all 3 correct signs.
I'm guessing the race planners found this article and assumed "destruction therapy" is from Hong Kong's entertainment subculture. Even the writer for this story says that there are rage rooms all around the world, so I'm not sure why they particularly chose HK.

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/education-community/article/2099695/anger-management-or-violent-fun-destruction
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 24, 2018, 09:25:37 AM
The finale is great
All the tasks are hard enough to allow shuffling of placement throughout the leg
Actually I would say this season is overally good. At least unlike recent season, there are much less linear legs. The tasks are always not easy for team lagging behind to catch up

However, i have to say i dun really like the winner of this season.
While watching the interview, Jessica just kept saying that she defeated team Yale in written test but i would like to point out that she had a head start over Henry (although i dunno the exact length of the head start). I am pretty sure Henry spent less time than Jessica to finish this final task. I agree that they defeated Team Yale in the race, but in terms of the final memory task, I have conservation about her saying she defected Henry

Also, Cody accused Henry of copying Jessica’s work but where is the evidence? I am very annyed by his accusation without any evidence

I just feel they are so arrogant that i dislike...
Cody and Jessica irritated me a lot with their reactions in the past episode and the exit interview
1) They claimed Henry copied Jessica's work with no evidence
2) their reaction towards Yale's congratulation at the finish line
3) They literally said they were unhappy with Yale getting into final 3 directly next to Yale at the Hong Kong mat
4) Cody mentioning of not enjoyed travelling around the world constantly throught out the race, as well as in their exit interviews

I mean, you can dislike Yale. But your way of aliening them just show you are not good people either

I disagree with 1-3. With regards to 1, Cody said that he was yelling for Jessica to roll the plane because he saw Henry looking at the plane and start rushing to finish. You can't say it's not valid because you were not there and it's edited. Regarding #2, Jessica said "thank you" and Cody has that face a large majority of the time. Number 3, They never explicitly said they were unhappy right next to Yale, they just said it was hard seeing the other teams get eliminated. In fact, Yale didn't even know teams disliked them until they watched it back. You can dislike Jody, but dislike them for valid reasons lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Platrium on February 24, 2018, 10:23:06 AM
I just finished watching the finale! :woohoo:

The final task was very difficult. I can agree that it may be the most difficult task yet. If I'm not mistaken, all 24 images were part of the race. There's only a combination of it wherein exactly two images on a plane part represent exactly two legs, and that no leg can be represented by more than or less than one image. You have to know everything and especially where they're from to be able to solve the puzzle.

Regarding the discussion of the magnifying glass and Henry not being able to see it: Fyi, he switched the frites and the elephant out and placed in the beer bath and the drink in Iceland. ??? Not sure what I could get from that. I'd like to hear Henry's thoughts about it. But also, he might not have it checked immediately? Or maybe it was just not shown.

As for Jessica, if she had it checked several times by trial and error, I think it gave her more knowledge as to which ones might not be the pieces. ??? Her strategy worked better than Henry's overanalyzing, and we could see it from the final result.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jesscahc on February 24, 2018, 01:16:59 PM
I agree with these sentiments and opinions. It is disappointing to see Jessica and Cody's lack of decorum. They continued their ungraciousness towards Evan and Henry in the finale even after their win.

While Evan is portrayed to have competitive qualities that can justifiably alienate them socially, the behavior and verbal language of Jessica/Cody and Conor/Alex are atrocious and disheartening. Evan maintains a true competitive nature whereas the other two teams are just ugly spirited. Anyone catch Conor calling Henry a dirtbag?

More than anything, Jessica's failure to display even a minimal level of grace at the pit stop in Hong Kong and San Francisco next to Team Yale is majorly off-putting. Additionally, the Amazing Race, at its core, is a reality show of competitive adventures while simultaneously showcasing travel to multiple destinations in the world. Cody's continued statements of only wanting to be in America goes against the very spirit the show. Just sad.

The finale is great
All the tasks are hard enough to allow shuffling of placement throughout the leg
Actually I would say this season is overally good. At least unlike recent season, there are much less linear legs. The tasks are always not easy for team lagging behind to catch up

However, i have to say i dun really like the winner of this season.
While watching the interview, Jessica just kept saying that she defeated team Yale in written test but i would like to point out that she had a head start over Henry (although i dunno the exact length of the head start). I am pretty sure Henry spent less time than Jessica to finish this final task. I agree that they defeated Team Yale in the race, but in terms of the final memory task, I have conservation about her saying she defected Henry

Also, Cody accused Henry of copying Jessica’s work but where is the evidence? I am very annyed by his accusation without any evidence

I just feel they are so arrogant that i dislike...
Cody and Jessica irritated me a lot with their reactions in the past episode and the exit interview
1) They claimed Henry copied Jessica's work with no evidence
2) their reaction towards Yale's congratulation at the finish line
3) They literally said they were unhappy with Yale getting into final 3 directly next to Yale at the Hong Kong mat
4) Cody mentioning of not enjoyed travelling around the world constantly throught out the race, as well as in their exit interviews

I mean, you can dislike Yale. But your way of aliening them just show you are not good people either
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 24, 2018, 01:51:02 PM
I agree with these sentiments and opinions. It is disappointing to see Jessica and Cody's lack of decorum. They continued their ungraciousness towards Evan and Henry in the finale even after their win.

While Evan is portrayed to have competitive qualities that can justifiably alienate them socially, the behavior and verbal language of Jessica/Cody and Conor/Alex are atrocious and disheartening. Evan maintains a true competitive nature whereas the other two teams are just ugly spirited. Anyone catch Conor calling Henry a dirtbag?

More than anything, Jessica's failure to display even a minimal level of grace at the pit stop in Hong Kong and San Francisco next to Team Yale is majorly off-putting. Additionally, the Amazing Race, at its core, is a reality show of competitive adventures while simultaneously showcasing travel to multiple destinations in the world. Cody's continued statements of only wanting to be in America goes against the very spirit the show. Just sad.



I take it you were cheering for Yale? lol. I can promise you there have been FAR worse comments made on past races about teams. Also, while I concede that they showed little grace at the hong kong pit stop and Cody's statements at times went against the spirit of the show, I don't see your point with the minimal level of grace at the finish line. Don't really see what they did wrong there and I've watched the finish multiple times.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Platrium on February 24, 2018, 02:12:28 PM
Is it just me or did I see someone taking pics and/or videos outside the fortune cookie place? ;)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jesscahc on February 24, 2018, 02:53:54 PM
As a matter of fact, I went in to the season mostly indifferent but slightly rooting for Team "Jody," as that was the only team I had prior information about from Big Brother. (Particularly seeing the way they were treated in Big Brother, I expected more from their behavior.)

In actuality, I have watched many past seasons, which is why I was supremely optimistic that all the teams this season would be 'competitive' but not nasty. Furthermore, in an exit interview, Cody claimed Henry copied Jessica, whereas one can easily accuse Jessica of copying Henry's work since she was next to him.. What an incredibly tactless statement.

In summation, Jody's cumulative actions and statements throughout the season made it difficult to for me and many others to swallow their win, especially over two hungry teams who better embodied the spirit of the Amazing Race. (To clarify, I find no fault with Jessica choosing not to inform Brittany of her forgotten gnome or being selective with her words in the phone task. It is her ubiquitous negative and personal statements towards Team Ocean Rescue and Team Yale that really garnered dislike, as well as Cody's many statements seen in the additional CBS videos.)

In my opinion, Evan and Jen seem to not only be the strongest and cleanest competitors of the season, but also the most hungry for the win. To add to that, both are incredibly intelligent well-spoken. Hope both respective teams come back in the future. They deserve it.

I agree with these sentiments and opinions. It is disappointing to see Jessica and Cody's lack of decorum. They continued their ungraciousness towards Evan and Henry in the finale even after their win.

While Evan is portrayed to have competitive qualities that can justifiably alienate them socially, the behavior and verbal language of Jessica/Cody and Conor/Alex are atrocious and disheartening. Evan maintains a true competitive nature whereas the other two teams are just ugly spirited. Anyone catch Conor calling Henry a dirtbag?

More than anything, Jessica's failure to display even a minimal level of grace at the pit stop in Hong Kong and San Francisco next to Team Yale is majorly off-putting. Additionally, the Amazing Race, at its core, is a reality show of competitive adventures while simultaneously showcasing travel to multiple destinations in the world. Cody's continued statements of only wanting to be in America goes against the very spirit the show. Just sad.



I take it you were cheering for Yale? lol. I can promise you there have been FAR worse comments made on past races about teams. Also, while I concede that they showed little grace at the hong kong pit stop and Cody's statements at times went against the spirit of the show, I don't see your point with the minimal level of grace at the finish line. Don't really see what they did wrong there and I've watched the finish multiple times.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 24, 2018, 03:23:06 PM

Furthermore, in an exit interview, Cody claimed Henry copied Jessica, whereas one can easily accuse Jessica of copying Henry's work since she was next to him.. What an incredibly tactless statement.

The difference is, he wasn't accusing Henry of copying throughout the task. What he said was that after Jessica was informed that her plane was "cleared for takeoff" or whatever, while she was bear-hugging the judge, Henry started to look at Jessica's plane and then started speeding up.  Being that Yale got to the finish line minutes after Jody, it's not inconceivable.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 24, 2018, 05:24:14 PM

Furthermore, in an exit interview, Cody claimed Henry copied Jessica, whereas one can easily accuse Jessica of copying Henry's work since she was next to him.. What an incredibly tactless statement.

The difference is, he wasn't accusing Henry of copying throughout the task. What he said was that after Jessica was informed that her plane was "cleared for takeoff" or whatever, while she was bear-hugging the judge, Henry started to look at Jessica's plane and then started speeding up.  Being that Yale got to the finish line minutes after Jody, it's not inconceivable.

You couldn't simply "copy" someone else's plane. Though we all had the same images on our planes, they were on different airplane parts. For example, on my finished plane, my propellers had Fish representing Morocco and a Helmet from Iceland, while Jess' prop had a Scale from Bahrain and a Cantene from Imire. But one of my wings had the cantene and scale, while Jess had the fish and helmet on a wing. Of course, we didn't know that while we were solving the planes.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 24, 2018, 08:27:52 PM

Furthermore, in an exit interview, Cody claimed Henry copied Jessica, whereas one can easily accuse Jessica of copying Henry's work since she was next to him.. What an incredibly tactless statement.

The difference is, he wasn't accusing Henry of copying throughout the task. What he said was that after Jessica was informed that her plane was "cleared for takeoff" or whatever, while she was bear-hugging the judge, Henry started to look at Jessica's plane and then started speeding up.  Being that Yale got to the finish line minutes after Jody, it's not inconceivable.

You couldn't simply "copy" someone else's plane. Though we all had the same images on our planes, they were on different airplane parts. For example, on my finished plane, my propellers had Fish representing Morocco and a Helmet from Iceland, while Jess' prop had a Scale from Bahrain and a Cantene from Imire. But one of my wings had the cantene and scale, while Jess had the fish and helmet on a wing. Of course, we didn't know that while we were solving the planes.

Thanks for clarifying, Jen.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ghostbusted on February 24, 2018, 08:54:04 PM
I also appreciate the clarification. That was smart for production to do but it must have made it harder for the judge. Did he have to remember all three planes or was there a cheat sheet?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: boggart on February 24, 2018, 09:00:41 PM

Furthermore, in an exit interview, Cody claimed Henry copied Jessica, whereas one can easily accuse Jessica of copying Henry's work since she was next to him.. What an incredibly tactless statement.

The difference is, he wasn't accusing Henry of copying throughout the task. What he said was that after Jessica was informed that her plane was "cleared for takeoff" or whatever, while she was bear-hugging the judge, Henry started to look at Jessica's plane and then started speeding up.  Being that Yale got to the finish line minutes after Jody, it's not inconceivable.

You couldn't simply "copy" someone else's plane. Though we all had the same images on our planes, they were on different airplane parts. For example, on my finished plane, my propellers had Fish representing Morocco and a Helmet from Iceland, while Jess' prop had a Scale from Bahrain and a Cantene from Imire. But one of my wings had the cantene and scale, while Jess had the fish and helmet on a wing. Of course, we didn't know that while we were solving the planes.

Thanks Jen for the clarification!!!

and i would like to take this oppportunity to thank you for making this season of TAR. You are one of my favourite contestants this season. You are so competitive!! Look forward to seeing you again in the returnee season!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: serendipity on February 25, 2018, 01:08:42 AM

Furthermore, in an exit interview, Cody claimed Henry copied Jessica, whereas one can easily accuse Jessica of copying Henry's work since she was next to him.. What an incredibly tactless statement.

The difference is, he wasn't accusing Henry of copying throughout the task. What he said was that after Jessica was informed that her plane was "cleared for takeoff" or whatever, while she was bear-hugging the judge, Henry started to look at Jessica's plane and then started speeding up.  Being that Yale got to the finish line minutes after Jody, it's not inconceivable.

You couldn't simply "copy" someone else's plane. Though we all had the same images on our planes, they were on different airplane parts. For example, on my finished plane, my propellers had Fish representing Morocco and a Helmet from Iceland, while Jess' prop had a Scale from Bahrain and a Cantene from Imire. But one of my wings had the cantene and scale, while Jess had the fish and helmet on a wing. Of course, we didn't know that while we were solving the planes.

wow, it's nice to see Jen posting on this forum! I am a great fan of you and Kristi this season, you two did a great job and would be better if you won it. Please come back to All-Stars if you got invited. So sorry was not there to help you out on the Hong Kong LKF suitcase task lol

That's good to know that you all got different images on different parts, I kept thinking whether the planes are too close between one another and very easy to peek on other people's plane, though the final combination of the 12 pictures could still be the same so one could see what the other had to pass the challenge.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: serendipity on February 25, 2018, 01:19:36 AM
The Hong Kong pitstop of TAR30 was not purely just a random street corner!  :hfive:

1. The tree at the Junction was planted by an American Country Singer John Denver in 1994  :jumpy:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Hong%20Kong/HK%20tree%20article-horz.jpg)
Source : 
(Left) Facebook page 'Hong Kong Taste 香港原味' https://www.facebook.com/hongkongtaste01/photos/a.1129330710505804.1073741837.183787531726798/1129331093839099/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/hongkongtaste01/photos/a.1129330710505804.1073741837.183787531726798/1129331093839099/?type=3&theater) 
(Right) live sighting photo by @vicdemort

photo merged by Peach

Back in 1994, a large scale greening project was carried out in the Wan Chai district. Among these 1000 trees planted in the project, this was one of the the only two trees planted by a celebrity, that is an American Country Singer John Denver (the other one was no. 600 by Chris Patten, the last Governor of Hong Kong before it was returned to China).

https://www.facebook.com/hongkongtaste01/photos/a.1129330710505804.1073741837.183787531726798/1129331093839099/?type=3

2. Besides, Joshston road was also the original coastline of Wan Chai before the large scale reclamation project back in the 1920s.  :girly


They should have made the racers guess the location of  pitstop instead of using the street board to shuffle the placement more!  >:(  :'(  :drama


What a good find! In fact when I knew they visited Wanchai the day after shooting I went there and found this plate on the tree, but I think that is unlikely the clue for pitstop as no one in Wanchai would know that there is story behind this tree!! lol

Anyway I was still frustrated to know that they visited Hong Kong and I only knew it the morning after... I was at IFC that night and could easily see them at Pier 4, and I would definitely be able to help on the Lan Kwai Fong task, I couldn't believe IndyCar thought Bread Street by Gordan Ramsay could be a clue for the French leg...  :funny: :funny: :funny:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4619/26600060498_1006f8f169.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GwygfJ) (https://flic.kr/p/GwygfJ) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144203832@N02/)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 25, 2018, 05:45:19 AM
That's good to know that you all got different images on different parts, I kept thinking whether the planes are too close between one another and very easy to peek on other people's plane, though the final combination of the 12 pictures could still be the same so one could see what the other had to pass the challenge.
I think that's why it's really good the finish line was at the same location, so that there was no chance for someone copying another team's work, and then beating them to the finish line in a cab race.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: GrandmawLily on February 25, 2018, 01:29:18 PM
The finale is great
All the tasks are hard enough to allow shuffling of placement throughout the leg
Actually I would say this season is overally good. At least unlike recent season, there are much less linear legs. The tasks are always not easy for team lagging behind to catch up

However, i have to say i dun really like the winner of this season.
While watching the interview, Jessica just kept saying that she defeated team Yale in written test but i would like to point out that she had a head start over Henry (although i dunno the exact length of the head start). I am pretty sure Henry spent less time than Jessica to finish this final task. I agree that they defeated Team Yale in the race, but in terms of the final memory task, I have conservation about her saying she defected Henry

Also, Cody accused Henry of copying Jessica’s work but where is the evidence? I am very annyed by his accusation without any evidence

I just feel they are so arrogant that i dislike...
Cody and Jessica irritated me a lot with their reactions in the past episode and the exit interview
1) They claimed Henry copied Jessica's work with no evidence
2) their reaction towards Yale's congratulation at the finish line
3) They literally said they were unhappy with Yale getting into final 3 directly next to Yale at the Hong Kong mat
4) Cody mentioning of not enjoyed travelling around the world constantly throught out the race, as well as in their exit interviews

I mean, you can dislike Yale. But your way of aliening them just show you are not good people either

I disagree with 1-3. With regards to 1, Cody said that he was yelling for Jessica to roll the plane because he saw Henry looking at the plane and start rushing to finish. You can't say it's not valid because you were not there and it's edited. Regarding #2, Jessica said "thank you" and Cody has that face a large majority of the time. Number 3, They never explicitly said they were unhappy right next to Yale, they just said it was hard seeing the other teams get eliminated. In fact, Yale didn't even know teams disliked them until they watched it back. You can dislike Jody, but dislike them for valid reasons lol.

Wait....are you saying Cody was yelling instructions to Jessica in the final task?? Didn't Shawn and Cedric receive a time penalty in Iceland for one of them making a comment (which, according to Phil, didn't matter WHAT was shouted) during the task?? I still haven't watched the finale....don't know if I ever will because I am not a fan of the winning team, but if Cody actually said this to Jessica during the final task, they should have received a penalty.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 25, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
The finale is great
All the tasks are hard enough to allow shuffling of placement throughout the leg
Actually I would say this season is overally good. At least unlike recent season, there are much less linear legs. The tasks are always not easy for team lagging behind to catch up

However, i have to say i dun really like the winner of this season.
While watching the interview, Jessica just kept saying that she defeated team Yale in written test but i would like to point out that she had a head start over Henry (although i dunno the exact length of the head start). I am pretty sure Henry spent less time than Jessica to finish this final task. I agree that they defeated Team Yale in the race, but in terms of the final memory task, I have conservation about her saying she defected Henry

Also, Cody accused Henry of copying Jessica’s work but where is the evidence? I am very annyed by his accusation without any evidence

I just feel they are so arrogant that i dislike...
Cody and Jessica irritated me a lot with their reactions in the past episode and the exit interview
1) They claimed Henry copied Jessica's work with no evidence
2) their reaction towards Yale's congratulation at the finish line
3) They literally said they were unhappy with Yale getting into final 3 directly next to Yale at the Hong Kong mat
4) Cody mentioning of not enjoyed travelling around the world constantly throught out the race, as well as in their exit interviews

I mean, you can dislike Yale. But your way of aliening them just show you are not good people either

I disagree with 1-3. With regards to 1, Cody said that he was yelling for Jessica to roll the plane because he saw Henry looking at the plane and start rushing to finish. You can't say it's not valid because you were not there and it's edited. Regarding #2, Jessica said "thank you" and Cody has that face a large majority of the time. Number 3, They never explicitly said they were unhappy right next to Yale, they just said it was hard seeing the other teams get eliminated. In fact, Yale didn't even know teams disliked them until they watched it back. You can dislike Jody, but dislike them for valid reasons lol.

Wait....are you saying Cody was yelling instructions to Jessica in the final task?? Didn't Shawn and Cedric receive a time penalty in Iceland for one of them making a comment (which, according to Phil, didn't matter WHAT was shouted) during the task?? I still haven't watched the finale....don't know if I ever will because I am not a fan of the winning team, but if Cody actually said this to Jessica during the final task, they should have received a penalty.

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves lol. Jessica had already finished the task and the judge already told her to taxi the plane back to her teammate.
If you want to see the actual video, I posted one I found on youtube below. Not great quality but the vid on the official amazing race youtube just shows them running to the finish line, so.

https://www.youtube.com/v/3I8-mYb2mqE
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 25, 2018, 01:47:09 PM
I also appreciate the clarification. That was smart for production to do but it must have made it harder for the judge. Did he have to remember all three planes or was there a cheat sheet?

I think he remembered the 12 images that needed to be on the plane. But each check took about 60-90 seconds. It wasn't a fast process by any means. I also think that the "rules guys" had a cheat sheet for each of our planes and probably indicated to the "Captain" when we had it right.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Piper on February 25, 2018, 02:16:42 PM
She had not finished the task because they could not leave the area and run to the finish line until the verbal instruction was completed. The judge gave verbal task instruction to taxi the plane to your teammate.  Jessica should have figured out how to taxi on her own. Cody did provide instructions on how to taxi by yelling roll the plane.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 25, 2018, 02:23:21 PM
She had not finished the task because they could not leave the area and run to the finish line until the verbal instruction was completed. The judge gave verbal task instruction to taxi the plane to your teammate.  Jessica should have figured out how to taxi on her own. Cody did provide instructions on how to taxi by yelling roll the plane.

The task was assembling the plane not figuring out how to taxi it back to the partner.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Piper on February 25, 2018, 04:26:33 PM
If the task was complete with the plane assembled, why didn't Cody run over and help push?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jro on February 25, 2018, 04:59:12 PM
If the task was complete with the plane assembled, why didn't Cody run over and help push?

Ok so let's run through it. It was an ARI with a roadblock-like component where the member who didn't do the roadblock had to assemble the plane on their own. Keep in mind, that was the only part that was stipulated in the episode, that they had to assemble the plane without help. Teams were able to strategize though while getting the plane parts about the stickers and such apparently, so obviously, the rules were not the same as a roadblock. From what I'm getting, the only things that the other teammate couldn't help with were saying what plane parts to use, actually helping put the parts on, and physically pushing the plane to the line (the judge told the assembly participant to push the plane to their shipmate, meaning two couldnt push). Not to mention, by your logic, Kristi saying "Good job Jen, push it to the line" would also be a penalty. If multiple teams did it and no penalties were handed out, I'm pretty sure it wasn't against the rules.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 25, 2018, 07:38:08 PM
If the task was complete with the plane assembled, why didn't Cody run over and help push?

Ok so let's run through it. It was an ARI with a roadblock-like component where the member who didn't do the roadblock had to assemble the plane on their own. Keep in mind, that was the only part that was stipulated in the episode, that they had to assemble the plane without help. Teams were able to strategize though while getting the plane parts about the stickers and such apparently, so obviously, the rules were not the same as a roadblock. From what I'm getting, the only things that the other teammate couldn't help with were saying what plane parts to use, actually helping put the parts on, and physically pushing the plane to the line (the judge told the assembly participant to push the plane to their shipmate, meaning two couldnt push). Not to mention, by your logic, Kristi saying "Good job Jen, push it to the line" would also be a penalty. If multiple teams did it and no penalties were handed out, I'm pretty sure it wasn't against the rules.

Cody's words to Jess were merely encouragement. The Captain told Jess to push it to her partner. I don't see this as worthy of a penalty in the least.  The rules were a bit convoluted for this challenge though. It was unclear whether you could look at the images with your partner before you attempted to solve it. We aired on the side of caution and didn't discuss the images at all. Just hauled them to the flight deck.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 25, 2018, 10:21:34 PM
Jen, do you know how far were Indy behind you at the Hong Kong pitstop?
Checking the episode with the operation hours of the train and buses, it seems like all 3 teams finished within 00:00 - 01:00, while Indy car said they met Phil at 3:30am.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 25, 2018, 10:57:50 PM
Jen, do you know how far were Indy behind you at the Hong Kong pitstop?
Checking the episode with the operation hours of the train and buses, it seems like all 3 teams finished within 00:00 - 01:00, while Indy car said they met Phil at 3:30am.

Answered this elsewhere, but for simplicity:

I don't know exactly. Kristi and I definitely finished around 1 a.m. They took us to a McDonalds and were hiding us away for at least an hour and a half. I think part of the reason they went to get the boys was because they were trying to hide both Indy and us from Yale and BB so that there was that surprise "reveal" moment at the airport. So, I'd say they were out there for minimum of another 1.5 hrs if not longer. We finally saw Indy arrive to the interview location when we were leaving our interview. Which had to have been at least 2.5 hours after we got to the mat. So, that 3:30 timeline could be accurate.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Pinnacle94080 on February 25, 2018, 11:28:46 PM
Is it just me or did I see someone taking pics and/or videos outside the fortune cookie place? ;)

Lol. That was me & yes I was recording and taking pics which covered my face so there goes my 5 seconds of fame.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: theschnauzers on February 26, 2018, 12:03:05 AM
I also appreciate the clarification. That was smart for production to do but it must have made it harder for the judge. Did he have to remember all three planes or was there a cheat sheet?

I think he remembered the 12 images that needed to be on the plane. But each check took about 60-90 seconds. It wasn't a fast process by any means. I also think that the "rules guys" had a cheat sheet for each of our planes and probably indicated to the "Captain" when we had it right.

Jen: The thought has occurred to me about that final task, that perhaps all twelve symbols appeared twice on different parts, so that if someone doing the task had the right set of parts on the plane, then the unused parts also had the same 12 symbols, but in a different order.

And did either you or Kristi realize during the collection phase of that task what the symbols represented, or had the instructions already told the teams that? I admit I am surprised they had symbols representing leg locations on two separate tasks in both of the final legs. That was different.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Marionete on February 26, 2018, 01:08:03 PM
Jen: The thought has occurred to me about that final task, that perhaps all twelve symbols appeared twice on different parts, so that if someone doing the task had the right set of parts on the plane, then the unused parts also had the same 12 symbols, but in a different order.
Wait, this doesn't make sense. I believe there were 12 pieces and each had 2 symbols? Then for sure we couldn't have had 2 sets of the correct symbols.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 26, 2018, 05:36:02 PM
Jen: The thought has occurred to me about that final task, that perhaps all twelve symbols appeared twice on different parts, so that if someone doing the task had the right set of parts on the plane, then the unused parts also had the same 12 symbols, but in a different order.
Wait, this doesn't make sense. I believe there were 12 pieces and each had 2 symbols? Then for sure we couldn't have had 2 sets of the correct symbols.

I share the drawing of all my plane parts on my blog: jenhudak.com/amazing-race-30-11-12

There were 22 unique images and two repeats (the helmet for Iceland and the fish for Morocco). There was only one correct solution, and it was the same combination of 12 images for each team. Each piece had two images on them, and the combination of two images was the always the same across each plane. The only difference was what piece had the images on them. For example, one of my wings had the scale from Bahrain and the cantene from Imire, but those were on Jess' propeller.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: theschnauzers on February 26, 2018, 06:37:12 PM
Jen: The thought has occurred to me about that final task, that perhaps all twelve symbols appeared twice on different parts, so that if someone doing the task had the right set of parts on the plane, then the unused parts also had the same 12 symbols, but in a different order.
Wait, this doesn't make sense. I believe there were 12 pieces and each had 2 symbols? Then for sure we couldn't have had 2 sets of the correct symbols.

I share the drawing of all my plane parts on my blog: jenhudak.com/amazing-race-30-11-12

There were 22 unique images and two repeats (the helmet for Iceland and the fish for Morocco). There was only one correct solution, and it was the same combination of 12 images for each team. Each piece had two images on them, and the combination of two images was the always the same across each plane. The only difference was what piece had the images on them. For example, one of my wings had the scale from Bahrain and the cantene from Imire, but those were on Jess' propeller.
Thanks. The show wasn’t clear about some aspects of the 24 images, so I wanted to verify exactly what the Racers were dealing with.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Neobie on February 27, 2018, 07:21:40 AM
Thanks Jen for detailing your travels! Do hang around for a while, us obsessive types might have a few questions as we map out the route and fill in the gaps in the timeline!
Agreed that the final challenge was set up unfairly, and your team was shortchanged at this crucial juncture. Here are the pieces each team had:

White (Jessica)Red (Jen)Blue (Henry)
Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Fish (Tangiers, 3)Left wingPropellerWing
Fries (Antwerp, 2)/Elephant (Chiang Mai, 10)Left wingTailplaneTail fin
Pontoon (Imire, 7)/Scales (Bahrain, 9)PropellerLeft wingTailplane
Magnifying glass (Prague, 6)/Paddle (San Francisco, 12)Tail finLeft wingPropeller
Rudder (St-Tropez, 4)/Handcuffs (Hong Kong, 11)TailplaneTail finTailplane
Knight (Arles, 5)/Microphone (Harare, 8 )TailplaneTailplaneLeft wing
Map of Geneva?/Train (Imire, 7)PropellerRight wingTailplane
Drinking horn (Iceland, 1)/Rope ladder (Antwerp, 2)Right wingTailplanePropeller
Fish (Tangiers, 3)/Fortune cookie (San Francisco, 12)Right wingPropellerTailplane
Tyre (Harare, 8 )/Scorpion (Chiang Mai, 10)Tail finTailplaneWing
Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Falcon (Bahrain, 9)TailplaneTail finRight wing
Beer spa (Prague, 6)/Baseball bats (Hong Kong, 11)TailplaneRight wingTail fin
Bold denotes correct answer.

While I'm not sure about Henry, it was impossible for Jessica and Jen to finish with a structurally-sound plane; they both needed a plane with two left wings.
Shame on the producers! Why would they bother making the wings differently if they didn't bother to make them count?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ilovetoread on February 27, 2018, 08:02:36 AM
Interestingly, Jen said in her AMA on Reddit that the taxi situation was resolved by production pausing all three teams so whoever hadn't paid could go do so. It was Extreme and Yale who had not paid.

It seems weird they would make everyone stop, no? Wouldn't it be considered an advantage for the team who did pay theirs? If they had had to go to a new location, would they pause for the team that didn't have a cab to get one?
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 27, 2018, 08:53:37 AM
Interestingly, Jen said in her AMA on Reddit that the taxi situation was resolved by production pausing all three teams so whoever hadn't paid could go do so. It was Extreme and Yale who had not paid.

It seems weird they would make everyone stop, no? Wouldn't it be considered an advantage for the team who did pay theirs? If they had had to go to a new location, would they pause for the team that didn't have a cab to get one?

They restarted the time BEFORE we went out to pay our cabs. So, Jessica & Cody were able to continue looking for plane parts when we had to go out and pay our cab.  Thanks for asking this! I realize I did not make that clear in my post on Reddit, so I just went and modified it there too.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ilovetoread on February 27, 2018, 09:10:18 AM
Oh gotcha! Thanks for clarifying!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 27, 2018, 09:11:38 AM
Thanks Jen for detailing your travels! Do hang around for a while, us obsessive types might have a few questions as we map out the route and fill in the gaps in the timeline!
Agreed that the final challenge was set up unfairly, and your team was shortchanged at this crucial juncture. Here are the pieces each team had:

White (Jessica)Red (Jen)Blue (Henry)
Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Fish (Tangiers, 3)Left wingPropellerWing
Fries (Antwerp, 2)/Elephant (Chiang Mai, 10)Left wingTailplaneTail fin
Pontoon (Imire, 7)/Scales (Bahrain, 9)PropellerLeft wingTailplane
Magnifying glass (Prague, 6)/Paddle (San Francisco, 12)Tail finLeft wingPropeller
Rudder (St-Tropez, 4)/Handcuffs (Hong Kong, 11)TailplaneTail finTailplane
Knight (Arles, 5)/Microphone (Harare, 8 )TailplaneTailplaneLeft wing
Map of Geneva?/Train (Imire, 7)PropellerRight wingTailplane
Drinking horn (Iceland, 1)/Rope ladder (Antwerp, 2)Right wingTailplanePropeller
Fish (Tangiers, 3)/Fortune cookie (San Francisco, 12)Right wingPropellerTailplane
Tyre (Harare, 8 )/Scorpion (Chiang Mai, 10)Tail finTailplaneWing
Helmet (Iceland, 1)/Falcon (Bahrain, 9)TailplaneTail finRight wing
Beer spa (Prague, 6)/Baseball bats (Hong Kong, 11)TailplaneRight wingTail fin
Bold denotes correct answer.

While I'm not sure about Henry, it was impossible for Jessica and Jen to finish with a structurally-sound plane; they both needed a plane with two left wings.
Shame on the producers! Why would they bother making the wings differently if they didn't bother to make them count?

Neobie! Thank you for your attention to detail on this! I drew out each plane on Sunday and came to the same conclusion. I couldn't find images from the edited show to determine if Henry's were both left wings, but I did look at his plane after I completed mine and all planes had both left wings.

I do have one other nerd question, if you feel up to the task. The images that they flashed on the screen after two of my checks seem like impossible combinations. For two reasons: 1) I never had the Left Wing/Left Wing combination until my final solution (as that was the major roadblock for me solving the puzzle) 2) one of them is showing an incorrect image of a keel, which is the stand alone image for St. Tropez.

The only reason that this is significant at all, is that it makes me wonder if Henry actually had the solution on his plane when he switched parts last second. You can't see any of his plane parts when he's asking for that check. Makes me wonder if they were building up dramatic effect. But of course, it's truly impossible to tell. And again, makes no difference to the results. Just curiosity.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: ghostbusted on February 27, 2018, 12:00:01 PM
Sorry this is kind of off topic but I can't resist. Correct planes having two left wings. There has to be a political comment about mainstream TV network political views here somewhere. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 27, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
Sorry this is kind of off topic but I can't resist. Correct planes having two left wings. There has to be a political comment about mainstream TV network political views here somewhere. :)

Hahahhahahahaa!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: dryedmangoez on February 27, 2018, 02:42:11 PM
The only reason that this is significant at all, is that it makes me wonder if Henry actually had the solution on his plane when he switched parts last second. You can't see any of his plane parts when he's asking for that check. Makes me wonder if they were building up dramatic effect. But of course, it's truly impossible to tell. And again, makes no difference to the results. Just curiosity.
I was wondering that too. It wouldn't be the first time TAR or any reality show did some creative editing.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Musicon on March 01, 2018, 03:13:20 PM

4) Cody mentioning of not enjoyed travelling around the world constantly throught out the race, as well as in their exit interviews

I suppose it's quite tiring and he did just come off Big Brother (and had been sequestered in the Jury up to the end of it), so he probably wanted time to relax at home after all that and the stress involved.  He went on this because Jessica wanted to I guess, he said he wouldn't have done it with anyone else.
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: dryedmangoez on March 03, 2018, 01:03:43 AM
4) Cody mentioning of not enjoyed travelling around the world constantly throught out the race, as well as in their exit interviews
i don't know if he was being sarcastic most of the Race whenever he mentioned stuff like that, but he sounded like all the TAR Canada contestants and Jon himself who basically say different variations of: "You don't need to travel somewhere else!" or "It's… better getting to explore our own country." (actual quotes from the TARC3 and 4 finales)
Title: Re: TAR 30 EP 11&12 FINALE NIGHT LIVE SHOW DISCUSSION! 2/21/17
Post by: Neobie on March 04, 2018, 09:51:59 AM
I do have one other nerd question, if you feel up to the task. The images that they flashed on the screen after two of my checks seem like impossible combinations. For two reasons: 1) I never had the Left Wing/Left Wing combination until my final solution (as that was the major roadblock for me solving the puzzle) 2) one of them is showing an incorrect image of a keel, which is the stand alone image for St. Tropez.

The only reason that this is significant at all, is that it makes me wonder if Henry actually had the solution on his plane when he switched parts last second. You can't see any of his plane parts when he's asking for that check. Makes me wonder if they were building up dramatic effect. But of course, it's truly impossible to tell. And again, makes no difference to the results. Just curiosity.

Yep, it seems like the graphics were utter rubbish. The "correct" half of the graphic seems plausible, but the "incorrect" half was full of impossible combinations. When Henry removed his fries/elephant tail fin and replaced it with beer spa/baseball bats, the graphics added beer spa/drinking horn under the "incorrect" column instead.

You can tell Henry had 3 correct parts before swapping out (fries/elephant, canteen/scales, and knight/microphone), but no idea whether the graphics correctly reflected the other 3 parts we couldn't see!

Jen, if you'd indulge us! I've a couple of questions while mapping out the route for this season here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,34153.msg1219710.html#msg1219710); would you mind taking a look to see if you'd recall anything?