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Title: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on September 30, 2017, 10:10:37 AM
This thread is the WORKZONE of our spoilers.
 
This is where ALL the spoiler speculation/discussion of the TAR 30 race goes, NOT in the LIVE thread. It is where we try to thrash out what the LIVE sightings mean.

 
 
Please use the LIVE START thread for all posts from there.

Once teams head to the airport, please use the LIVE SIGHTINGS Thread for sightings

ALL Discussion of the Spoilers and Sightings GO HERE!   :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 01, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

- Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating & Former Big Brother
- Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
- Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Friends & Former NBA Players
- April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Friends & Goat Yoga Instructors
- Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
- M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian.
- M/M in black and grey.
- M/F in 'Y' caps, male is Asian-American.
- F/F in pink.
- M/M bald in plaid.
- F/F younger in red.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WorldTraveler on October 01, 2017, 02:48:09 PM
Wonder where they will be going in Iceland. Jokulsarlon is beautiful, but was used the last time they went there. Icelandic hot dogs, as well as shark and Brennevin could also be featured.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TheRabbi on October 01, 2017, 03:23:53 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

- Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating & Former Big Brother
- Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
- Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Friends & Former NBA Players
- April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Friends & Goat Yoga Instructors
- Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
- M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian.
- M/M in black and grey.
- M/F in 'Y' caps, male is Asian-American.
- F/F in pink.
- M/M bald in plaid.
- F/F younger in red.

The red team I think I heard Phil say Kelsee and Kayla?
The Yale caps I think were named Henry and Evan (Evelyn?)

That's all I got. Phil didn't speak very loud.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 01, 2017, 03:27:06 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

- Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating & Former Big Brother
- Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
- Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Friends & Former NBA Players
- April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Friends & Goat Yoga Instructors
- Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
- M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian.
- M/M in black and grey.
- M/F in 'Y' caps, male is Asian-American.
- F/F in pink.
- M/M bald in plaid.
- F/F younger in red.

The red team I think I heard Phil say Kelsee and Kayla?
The Yale caps I think were named Henry and Evan (Evelyn?)

That's all I got. Phil didn't speak very loud.

Kelsey Wells and Kayla Itsines???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 01, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

(1.) - Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
(3.) - April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Goat Yoga Moms
(4.) - Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Former NBA Players
(5.) - Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating
(6.) - Trevor & Christopher - Violinists
(7.) - Henry (20s) & Evan (20s) - Friends/Debate Champions
(10.) - Kelsey (20s) & Kayla (20s) - Fitness Models
(11.) - Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
(2.) - M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian. Lifeguards?
(8.) - F/F in pink. Skiers.
(9.) - M/M bald in plaid. Army Vets/Twins?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NMC on October 01, 2017, 03:55:18 PM
Being from Ireland, I was praying for a Dublin start.  :(  On the bright side, ICELAND!!! Woooohoooo!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on October 01, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
How possible would it be for the teams to be racing under the northern lights? Sorry I posted in wrong thread before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 01, 2017, 04:11:03 PM
A Justin & Diana reference? That's where they got engaged, remember :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WorldTraveler on October 01, 2017, 04:12:14 PM
How possible would it be for the teams to be racing under the northern lights? Sorry I posted in wrong thread before.

It's possible, but no guarantee. Also, they aren't extremely bright, so it would be hard to get them on camera. I feel like most of the time, racers finish the legs in daylight too. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 01, 2017, 04:45:53 PM
Iceland? Great! I remember that leg in Iceland in s6 was pretty good. Possible ice climbing on a glaciers.

So, possible routing: Europe->Africa->Europe->Asia->Australia?->S. America?->USA
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 01, 2017, 04:53:27 PM
Iceland? Great! I remember that leg in Iceland in s6 was pretty good. Possible ice climbing on a glaciers.

So, possible routing: Europe->Africa->Europe->Asia->Australia?->S. America?->USA

At least there would be never having another South America leg after having four consecutive seasons in a row. Let's start for Europe -> Africa -> Asia -> Oceania -> USA route.

Fingers crossed for a 5-continent, 10 country and a near 40,000 mile race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 01, 2017, 05:41:42 PM
ICELAND WHAT A GREAT FIRST LOCATION!!!  :conf:

You've gotta love seeing a underused country on the Race!

Shame about Ireland though. Maybe next leg!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 01, 2017, 05:44:35 PM
ICELAND WHAT A GREAT FIRST LOCATION!!!  :conf:

You've gotta love seeing a underused country on the Race!

Shame about Ireland though. Maybe next leg!

Pray for Latvia in the next leg. The only Baltic country never visited in TAR franchise and it is way long overdue since the start of HD era.

There are a flights to Riga from Reykjavik-Keflavik with a stop at either Oslo/Copenhagen/Stockholm.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 01, 2017, 05:57:09 PM
I hope Denmark, Belgium, Australia get visited
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: coolhand12 on October 01, 2017, 06:05:29 PM
They were seen in terminal 7 and this is what I assume is the flight they will be taking
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 01, 2017, 06:11:14 PM
With Iceland as first leg, I suspect another Northern Europe country as next,  probably Sweden or Finland, before they go on the Baltic (Latvia)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 01, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
So this is the first stop when they get there, GeitŠrgljķfur (Source: http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/u/fQYSUbVfts-T7odkrFJckdiFeHvab0GWOfzhj7tYdC0uglagsDcWimYfrc9eEvsmOcsALamOBLLjviNCKpFhiZrXVBC_Rj6uFPLXMgNU3AB9En-LUp8hd0j-Aam-M3bxsShHhkkPMYPP2yDM9JNbkFfyntMzAn4ykVUxTSkQEyiNP1QsuoysYv8guWnusl0_evUUywAUxQgkW2JaGuuKdQ7qhnM/)

That's the thing about Iceland. It's got some cool almost unearthly landscapes in places.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 01, 2017, 07:21:33 PM
Wonder if they'll have an overnight rest like the first Iceland visit?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 01, 2017, 07:25:40 PM
Probably not, with a 2h30 driving time they'd arrive at around 9:30am!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 01, 2017, 07:46:10 PM
Good news: second flight's gate was right near mine!

Bad news: didn't make it in time to have good interaction with teams  :groan:

100% on the second flight:
Pro Eaters (Green M/M)
Violinists (Black M/M)
Boxers (Red F/F)

Apparently Basketball was the other team, but I didn't see them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 01, 2017, 08:00:12 PM
The second flight is expected to take off 10 minutes early at 8:55pm and the first flight is now expected to take off at 9:06pm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 01, 2017, 11:18:14 PM
I hope the teams buy good road maps with their remaining cash (cab fare (http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/passenger/taxicab_rate.shtml#AirportTrips) will eat most of the $85). The directions in the Additional Information are not very good (here are driving instructions (https://intotheglacier.is/driving-instructions-husafell/) from a Hķsafell tourist attraction; the route is not intuitive and the road signs aren't much help).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 01, 2017, 11:38:05 PM
Pretty sure it is a self driving leg? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 01, 2017, 11:40:49 PM
Pretty sure it is a self driving leg? ???

I think he means the taxi fare from the park to the airport Peach
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 12:11:12 AM
1 hour until the first flight lands!!! Woo :)

Will we have anyone there in Iceland that will see the race unfolding?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 02, 2017, 12:57:53 AM
The additional information says that there'll be more money in the cars at Reykjavik (probably in krona), so that might be able to cover a map once they arrive?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 02, 2017, 01:08:52 AM
The first flight has now landed!  :conf:

The second flight is about 20 minutes behind.

How long is the drive to the canyon? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 01:11:11 AM
A little over 2 hours it seems
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 02, 2017, 02:30:22 AM
The first flight has now landed!  :conf:

The second flight is about 20 minutes behind.

How long is the drive to the canyon? ???

By first flight do you mean the one with 6 teams on it?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 02, 2017, 06:47:05 AM
The additional information says that there'll be more money in the cars at Reykjavik (probably in krona), so that might be able to cover a map once they arrive?

im sorry, im quite confuse about this....they received 85 $ at the starting line, so production took all the money after they pay their taxi and give them back in Iceland or they are receiving more than just 85 bucks on the entire leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 07:50:26 AM
The Delta flight with #Basketball #RingGirls #Violinists #HotDogEaters landed about 20-30 minutes after the Iceland Air flight

According to pictures , the teams on Iceland Air were #Jody #YogaMoms #MasterDebaters #Skiers #Indy500.

Iím unsure of which flight #Lifeguards and #EMTs are on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 02, 2017, 09:43:37 AM
The Delta flight with #Basketball #RingGirls #Violinists #HotDogEaters landed about 20-30 minutes after the Iceland Air flight

According to pictures , the teams on Iceland Air were #Jody #YogaMoms #MasterDebaters #Skiers #Indy500.

Iím unsure of which flight #Lifeguards and #EMTs are on.


There's one photo in the lives where they are queueing at a counter #Lifeguards are on the 1st flight along with #Jody #YogaMoms #MasterDebaters #Skiers #Indy500. Encircled them.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 10:09:13 AM
They look different with coats on and ďyellow pikachu hats???Ē On their bag??

And maybe the EMTs are the team at the back with coats on now

 :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 02, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
They look different with coats on and ďyellow pikachu hats???Ē On their bag??

And maybe the EMTs are the team at the back with coats on now

 :groan:


Upon closer look, it does somehow look like Pikachu Hats because the hats have triangular ears. Not sure with the EMT's though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 12:26:03 PM
I have a feeling that the next leg may be in Iceland. Obviously we don't know everything but there seems to be many Reykjavik based tasks, They would probably want to focus on the other aspects of Iceland.

If not it's probably going to be another European leg, Ireland, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland & Prague are most likely i'd say.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: graytex on October 02, 2017, 12:44:40 PM
Seems like they are going for an athletic themed season.  Everyone is involved in a sport, or in an activity that could be loosely considered competitive, and it seems the greeter at the first pit stop is an athlete, as well as the "Icelandic strongmen" that were seen.  If this is true, it might help in future speculation of locations/activities.  Maybe they will head to some Olympic sites?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 02, 2017, 02:52:12 PM
The strongman/Thor's Power stop was here (https://goo.gl/maps/HVk51S7nduy)--at Ingolfur Square.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 02, 2017, 04:19:07 PM
Looking at flights out of Reykjavik tomorrow, main cities I'm seeing with multiple flights:

Frankfurt: 6:00, 7:25, 14:35 (2:35p)
Paris CDG: 6:00, 7:40, 15:20 (3:20p)
Copenhagen: 6:30, 7:45, 10:30, 13:00 (1:00p)
Amsterdam: 6:00, 7:40, 15:10 (3:10p)
London (Gatwick): 6:10, 7:45, 15:30 (3:30p)
London (Heathrow): 7:40, 16:10 (4:10p)
Oslo: 7:50, 11:40, 12:10
Helsinki: 7:30, 18:00 (6:00p)

These are just the direct flights from KEF, when looking up the departure schedule

I personally like the look of Copenhagen, but that's just me
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 04:33:46 PM
Remember teams probably can't fly WOW AIR as it's a budget airline who restrict hand baggage like Easyjet and Ryanair.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 02, 2017, 04:34:08 PM
Copenhagen or Helsinki would be amazing!
Though it's hard to guess, as they could easily make a connection in any of those, or other cities.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 02, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Finland would be terrific. They've never done a Pit Stop there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 02, 2017, 04:44:12 PM
Personally, I would like to see Helsinki, but knowing TAR, they'll probably go to London :res:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
Tomorrow there are two flights to Helsinki.

Icelandair; 7:30 --> 13:50

Finnair: 18:00 --> 00:30

So the Finnair flight works perfectly.

But remember that SAS & Lufthansa operate flights to Oslo, Stockholm, CPH & Frankfurt that could take teams anywhere in Europe along with all Icelandair destinations;

London Heathrow
London Gatwick
Manchester
Belfast
Glasgow
Amsterdam
Brussels
Paris
Frankfurt
Munich
Copenhagen
Oslo
Bergen
Stockholm
Helsinki
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazedArrow on October 02, 2017, 04:49:14 PM
I wish next stop is Spain, but I don't think so, last one was on S24, and we only had 2 others oficially (with tasks, I don't count TAR 3 as a visit). Madrid or Bilbao would be a good choice.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 04:50:26 PM
Personally, I would like to see Helsinki, but knowing TAR, they'll probably go to London :res:

London is actually quite undervisited, I may be biased being a Londoner but think about it.

They did a leg in S7 and only a detour in S25. That's it, so London would be nice to have also it's not raining tomorrow or the day after  :funny: not to mention it's the best city in the world. SorryNotSorry
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 02, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
Personally, I would like to see Helsinki, but knowing TAR, they'll probably go to London :res:

London is actually quite undervisited, I may be biased being a Londoner but think about it.

They did a leg in S7 and only a detour in S25. That's it, so London would be nice to have also it's not raining tomorrow or the day after  :funny: not to mention it's the best city in the world. SorryNotSorry

Just England in general is overused. And they ALWAYS to go to London airports for stopovers! And mate, we all know what the best city is...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 02, 2017, 05:04:13 PM
Forget overused countries and let's move on with some new European countries...

Latvia
Slovakia
Belarus
Bulgaria
Serbia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Slovenia

The next leg would be in Latvia and would be the first TAR appearance of that country. For flights to Riga, the possible departures from Keflavik Airport to Riga:

(https://i.imgur.com/cIg6yeE.png)

(https://imgur.com/775gLrr.png)

(https://imgur.com/flH8Qg5.png)

Phil and the production's flight:

AB3547 KEF-TXL 0040-0605 -> BT212 TXL-RIX 0920-1200
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 02, 2017, 06:11:05 PM
I doubt there will be any new European country in next leg since they are in Iceland, unless they make some crazy connections (eg. s12 Lithuania to Croatia leg) which I doubt.

I think that next leg will be in Brussels, Belgium since there's direct flight, and Belgium is not visited in like 11 seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 06:18:04 PM
I doubt there will be any new European country in next leg since they are in Iceland, unless they make some crazy connections (eg. s12 Lithuania to Croatia leg) which I doubt.

I think that next leg will be in Brussels, Belgium since there's direct flight, and Belgium is not visited in like 11 seasons.

I never thought of Belgium. That sounds like a reasonable idea but I would prefer Bruges.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 02, 2017, 06:24:02 PM
I doubt there will be any new European country in next leg since they are in Iceland, unless they make some crazy connections (eg. s12 Lithuania to Croatia leg) which I doubt.

I think that next leg will be in Brussels, Belgium since there's direct flight, and Belgium is not visited in like 11 seasons.

I never thought of Belgium. That sounds like a reasonable idea but I would prefer Bruges.

Bruges is very reasonable to get to from Brussels- just about an hour via train
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 02, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
Based on Jgilpat1's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwNI9Injt2/?taken-by=jl.gilpatrick) the Pit Stop was in front of the Iūnů Theatre on Lake TjŲrnin (https://www.google.com/maps/place/I%C3%B0n%C3%B3/@64.1457652,-21.9404355,16.79z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x644f18a959fdc764!8m2!3d64.1458232!4d-21.9400124).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 02, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
Looking at possible connections, Luxembourg could be brend new European country...

(https://i.snag.gy/1YNs5E.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 02, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
If production were thinking about going to Luxembourg, why not go to Germany which is cheaper, easier to produce since they've been there before, has similar visuals, and is easier to get into and out of especially if they're going to Africa somewhere farfetched on leg 3?

The Black Forest would be nice this time of year  :colors

eta: SPEC for Germany

Phil:
AB 3547 KEF TXL 0040 0605
AB 6577 TXL FRA 0850 1005 (though legitimately Phil can get to every major Germany city by 1030)

teams:
LH 857 KEF FRA 1435 2005, and then they can take a train or drive to wherever overnight and start leg 2 on Oct 4.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 02, 2017, 07:23:37 PM
I feel like Copenhagen is the best guess for the next leg (although I wouldnt be dissappinted with England, Belgium, or Finland either) plus there are some flights to Riga, Latvia which is where most of us would love to see get visited
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 07:33:29 PM
I love Copenhagen but it was only visited in S25 and S19, I would prefer Stockholm as we haven't properly had a leg there since S6. I went in October last year and it's lovely this time of year.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 02, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
Can't rule out the possibility of a Zurich revisit.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 02, 2017, 10:21:47 PM
If production were thinking about going to Luxembourg, why not go to Germany which is cheaper, easier to produce since they've been there before, has similar visuals, and is easier to get into and out of especially if they're going to Africa somewhere farfetched on leg 3?

The Black Forest would be nice this time of year  :colors

eta: SPEC for Germany

Phil:
AB 3547 KEF TXL 0040 0605
AB 6577 TXL FRA 0850 1005 (though legitimately Phil can get to every major Germany city by 1030)

teams:
LH 857 KEF FRA 1435 2005, and then they can take a train or drive to wherever overnight and start leg 2 on Oct 4.

At least Germany is overused and has going to rule out with OVERUSED countries visited in recent seasons. I expect Spain to be visited in leg 3, the only safe place to visit that country is Madrid.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 02, 2017, 11:06:13 PM
May I offer a different opinion? Since production usually reserves the bounce boards for the pit stop, I'm thinking it might be in a secluded spot of HljůmskŠlagarūur park (photos below--zoomed-in source here (https://goo.gl/maps/GAAeWgqMLH52) and a close-up here (https://goo.gl/maps/kh31WPtav8p)).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 02, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
If Luxembourg were visited, it's a tiny country, but I'm fortunate enough to know a guy there I could ask to help :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 02, 2017, 11:29:52 PM
Okay guys. Love your enthusiasm BUT:

This is the workzone for our speculation on spoilers. Y'all's enthusiasm is making finding actual info and valuable speculation hard to find.

It is not where you post wishlists for locations or anything else.

All comments here should be ONLY about the spoilers and any LOGICAL info about what may come next.

I am moving everything else to another thread. Help me out here please and keep this tightly focused? Thanks!!


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 03, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Hmm Slowhatch could it be for the post-leg interviews?
You can see the mat being rolled out in front of the Iūnů Theatre...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jgilpat1 on October 03, 2017, 05:17:16 AM
Hey everyone. I stopped by the pit stop this morning just to check things out. Teams were still there. It was 745 am local time -- well past the 12 hours since checkin. Any idea why that might be the case? Could it play into where they go next?

We saw Jess and Cody from a distance doing interviews. Saw debaters mulling about and one of the male-male teams also doing interviews. Either violinists or Indy car. I'm sorry I have trouble telling them apart.

We were right next to their interview spot. I posted a pic to instagram (jl.gilpatrick). Heard them say they were leaving today in 4th place. 100% sure.

Sorry if I'm not posting in the right spot. Don't mean to muck things up but wifi is spotty and I'm just trying to get it all out.

EDIT: I glanced at the team photos again and the team I saw today was definitely the violinists. They came in 4th on leg #1.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: HavaDrPepper on October 03, 2017, 05:28:48 AM
Hey everyone. I stopped by the pit stop this morning just to check things out. Teams were still there. It was 745 am local time -- well past the 12 hours since checkin. Any idea why that might be the case? Could it play into where they go next?

We saw Jess and Cody from a distance doing interviews. Saw debaters mulling about and one of the male-male teams also doing interviews. Either violinists or Indy car. I'm sorry I have trouble telling them apart.

We were right next to their interview spot. I posted a pic to instagram (jl.gilpatrick). Heard them say they were leaving today in 4th place. 100% sure.

Sorry if I'm not posting in the right spot. Don't mean to muck things up but wifi is spotty and I'm just trying to get it all out.

EDIT: I glanced at the team photos again and the team I saw today was definitely the violinists. They came in 4th on leg #1.

Could this have been an 18 hour rest period? I also think your photo is the violinists but hard to tell.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: maf on October 03, 2017, 05:38:14 AM
It has been many seasons since they abandoned the standardized 12h rest period. Nowadays the rest period is as long as production wants. I get a feeling that the things which determines the length is which transport they are going to take during the next leg. They try to avoid having one team getting on an earlier flight which arrives hours ahead of the others.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 08:29:13 AM
For teams heading to AMS, at least one lucky team will prob. be on Wow airlines - WW 446 KEFAMS 1510 2030
But space is really tight on all the flights out of KEF today, so I would expect lots of different connecting flights, most of which will give them a forced overnight and have them arriving into AMS tomorrow morning between 7-10am.  Two seats are available on lots of flights, but not 4 per team, so unless production has blocked some flights, this could get interesting.  More than half the flights departing today are completely sold out already.
Iceland has been such a popular destination over the past few years that air seats are always at a premium. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 03, 2017, 08:42:09 AM
At least there could be train from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport to Antwerp, Belgium that would arrive by 11:15 pm. Just like the teams did ride a train from Brussels to Amsterdam Airport in TAR 19.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 03, 2017, 08:45:40 AM
Any sign of team Indy?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: greenteapls on October 03, 2017, 09:18:50 AM
How do we know that Amsterdam is the location? As they were spotted at the airport 2 hours ago. Icelandair flight to Copehangen left 13:00 Iceland time (1 hour ago). Would The Amazing Race take a crappy discount airline flight (Wow Airlines) to Amsterdam?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 03, 2017, 09:21:04 AM
How do we know that Amsterdam is the location? As they were spotted at the airport 2 hours ago. Icelandair flight to Copehangen left 13:00 Iceland time (1 hour ago). Would The Amazing Race take a crappy discount airline flight (Wow Airlines) to Amsterdam?

We don't really until we see them doing tasks.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 03, 2017, 10:00:55 AM
In one of the pictures at the airport, it looks like they are taking WOW Airlines because the plane is purple. The WOW flight leaves at 3:10pm local time and landed 8:30pm local time. The flight number is 466 .
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
So that means they'll touch down in AMS at 830pm.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 10:05:43 AM
Unless they are sitting there as a distraction.... Odd to be using ONE flight on a NOT usual airline. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 10:07:07 AM
WW is a major player in the Iceland Air industry, WOW and Icelandair are the majority of their convenient flights, so the airline is new, but it's not a small, low cost one like an Easyjet or anything like that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 03, 2017, 10:11:38 AM
Unless they are sitting there as a distraction.... Odd to be using ONE flight on a NOT usual airline. ???

In case WOW is ruled out, only London is left in sooner European flights.

(https://i.snag.gy/g0cOBE.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 10:15:47 AM
WW is a major player in the Iceland Air industry, WOW and Icelandair are the majority of their convenient flights, so the airline is new, but it's not a small, low cost one like an Easyjet or anything like that.


Okay, that helps! And looks like too limited flight options to have 2 groups?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jesscahc on October 03, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
I think the teams had been at the airport for a long time. I overheard the Yale debaters say ďthey had exhausted all their optionsĒ re things to see/sit in the airport as they walked to the gate area. also the two major airlines here are both not usual: Icelandair and WOWair.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 03, 2017, 10:35:17 AM
Hey everyone, hope I'm in the right thread - I see some posts here and on reddit about TAR flying to Amsterdam tonight. Some users have mentioned that the flight will arrive 20.30 local time (CEST) but the airport website says its landing at 19.50 instead.

In case I go the the airport (I'd have to leave in 40 minutes) - what are the odds I can see some teams and gain some info? Furthermore, would it be appreciated if I look into flights or trains leaving after 19.50 or has that been covered already?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 03, 2017, 10:37:52 AM
Hey everyone, hope I'm in the right thread - I see some posts here and on reddit about TAR flying to Amsterdam tonight. Some users have mentioned that the flight will arrive 20.30 local time (CEST) but the airport website says its landing at 19.50 instead.

In case I go the the airport (I'd have to leave in 40 minutes) - what are the odds I can see some teams and gain some info? Furthermore, would it be appreciated if I look into flights or trains leaving after 19.50 or has that been covered already?

Thanks a lot!


Hi and welcome to RFF! :conf: These are some good leads. If you do find info, please do feel free to post it here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 03, 2017, 10:38:24 AM
Do we know if ALL teams are on that flight to AMS, or just some?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 03, 2017, 10:39:16 AM
Looks like Team Indy is still in the running

(https://i.imgur.com/QwxPPhh.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jesscahc on October 03, 2017, 10:47:36 AM
Because I did not stay and watch them board, it is possible that they were waiting to clear passport control to go down to D gates.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 03, 2017, 10:48:53 AM
Okay then! Hopping on a bus in about 45 minutes... Should be there at 19.22 with the flight arriving at 19.45. Phone fully charged so I will try and keep you updated. Would you recommend I post pictures or information here or send it to someone first? (If I get anything at all that is!)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 03, 2017, 10:49:43 AM
What is the flight  number?
Because I did not stay and watch them board, it is possible that they were waiting to clear passport control to go down to D gates.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 03, 2017, 10:50:36 AM
Okay then! Hopping on a bus in about 45 minutes... Should be there at 19.22 with the flight arriving at 19.45. Phone fully charged so I will try and keep you updated. Would you recommend I post pictures or information here or send it to someone first? (If I get anything at all that is!)

You could either post the pictures here by using the attachments part. If you do encounter a problem you could send it to our amazing moderator, georgiapeach.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 03, 2017, 11:06:05 AM
flight   WW 446 is now due at 19.59
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 11:16:26 AM
Okay then! Hopping on a bus in about 45 minutes... Should be there at 19.22 with the flight arriving at 19.45. Phone fully charged so I will try and keep you updated. Would you recommend I post pictures or information here or send it to someone first? (If I get anything at all that is!)

Send them to me first . Messaging you now...let's take this to messages.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 11:26:56 AM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 03, 2017, 11:41:32 AM
So are all the teams on the same flight?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 11:44:27 AM
It's the only flight that will get them into AMS tonight, so anyone who isn't is a day behind.

And the flight was showing as fully sold out before they departed, so I have more than a sneaking suspicion that production was holding a block of seats to ensure they all got on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 11:46:58 AM
And we are sure they are on this flight to Amsterdam? And we are sure itís not just a connection?

Seems kinda late at night to start doing tasks for a leg, no?


Wish we had a pic of their clue (like we did for their rote info to Reykjavic)

EDIT : duh . I completely forgot about HOurs of Operation type tasks and stuff like that. Nvm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
Our teams are landing in 15 minutes!!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
Teams have safely landed into Schipol  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 01:09:25 PM
Iím gonna check Snap Map to see if theres anything
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: oscarc74 on October 03, 2017, 01:15:09 PM
So which flight are they on then
The only flight I see landing from Reykjavik is WOW Air 446 at 8:08 PM (Netherlands time).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 01:35:01 PM
There will be a lot of people that are familiar with the Amazing Race in Amsterdam. Iím hoping we will have a lot of insight/media for this leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 03, 2017, 01:45:31 PM
Amsterdam, confirmed


(https://i.imgur.com/TlVpGDk.png)

Credit to: Gruicrouzet (https://www.instagram.com/guicrouzet/)

EDIT: Oops, wrong section, maybe it should go to live sightings
EDIT2: Added credits
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 01:48:15 PM
Credit to guicrouzet (instagram) for the pic!!

And thanks to dzony95 for posting!

This confirms the airline, flight and destination for leg 2!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 02:10:05 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 03, 2017, 02:15:40 PM
Was it confirmed that the last team out was the ring girls?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 03, 2017, 02:16:02 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe just cost cutting since WOW is lowcost airline
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: miakenzi on October 03, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
I posted this originally in the wrong post:

Who was not there waiting for train? aka kicked off on the first leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 03, 2017, 02:21:37 PM
nvm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 02:24:42 PM
Change of thought
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 02:26:24 PM
I have a friend at the ready who's only half an hour from Antwerp and able to travel if needed :)

 :conf: Woohoo!

If only we knew which Shop in Antwerp they were looking for!! Or maybe your friend is willing to follow from the train station? So cool
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 03, 2017, 02:26:54 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe just cost cutting since WOW is lowcost airline

I'd lean towards them wanting to film tomorrow.

They'd be getting in to whichever city late enough that they could make sure teams are bunched together with an HoO at the start, versus teams racing against the sun/possible locations closing early evening- depending on what they're doing/where they're going

I think that's why they decided to wait for the late flight too, since there were some earlier flights to Amsterdam that would've gotten them there around the same time as the Brussels one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 03, 2017, 03:09:27 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe Phil and the production staff took the direct flight and had the teams go through Amsterdam so that production would arrive a few hours ahead of the teams. Unless there was a flight last night that the production team could take.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 03, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
At least there could be train from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport to Antwerp, Belgium that would arrive by 11:15 pm. Just like the teams did ride a train from Brussels to Amsterdam Airport in TAR 19.

Yes. My prediction of Antwerp was right.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 03, 2017, 04:26:07 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe Phil and the production staff took the direct flight and had the teams go through Amsterdam so that production would arrive a few hours ahead of the teams. Unless there was a flight last night that the production team could take.

It's not direct, however based on timing I think Phil and production could've taken

VY 8561 KEF BCN 2320 0519 (10/3)
VY 8988 BCN BRU 0657 0907 (10/3)

and then traveled onward to Antwerp and filmed all of the standups earlier today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 04:33:45 PM
Maybe it could to do with the BrusselsTerrorist attack?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 04:42:10 PM
Maybe it could to do with the BrusselsTerrorist attack?

Antwerp is not Brussels. But BVM is from Belgium. Netherlands.  :-[
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 04:51:03 PM
Maybe it could to do with the BrusselsTerrorist attack?

Antwerp is not Brussels. But BVM is from Belgium.

I meant to do with the fact with them flying to Schipol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 03, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
Quote
But BVM is from Belgium.
???
Amsterdam--25 Oct 1940 (http://www.emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/bertram-van-munster)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
Quote
But BVM is from Belgium.
???
Amsterdam--25 Oct 1940 (http://www.emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/bertram-van-munster)

Totally. This girl needs sleep!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 03, 2017, 07:13:18 PM
So, teams flew into Amsterdam and then took a train to Antwerp?

I am getting very confused and so, I am I correct?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 03, 2017, 07:31:08 PM
So, teams flew into Amsterdam and then took a train to Antwerp?

I am getting very confused and so, I am I correct?

Correct so far.

We'll prob have to wait until tomorrow (for them) to see if they stay in Antwerp or hop around the country a bit more
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: elthemagnifico on October 04, 2017, 02:34:59 AM
They WILL likely racing to Antwerp tho,refer to the last sighting, but so far no further sighting yet
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 05:45:35 AM
It looks like Trevor & Christopher standing with Phil in the instagram sighting (look at the taller guy's beard).
And it must be Jen & Kristi to the side.

Could this mean that the girls checked in just before them?
And that both could be at the front, considering that the leg was rather short this morning, and that no other teams are visible?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 04, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
Are those costumes they're wearing supposed to be French Fries??? Weren't French Fries invented in Belgium?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: miakenzi on October 04, 2017, 07:00:06 AM
Hi guys! It appears the post about confirming the ring girls have been eliminated has been deleted (Or my computer/phone are messing up). If it was deleted was there something that made you question if they are still in the running?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 04, 2017, 07:02:56 AM
Are those costumes they're wearing supposed to be French Fries??? Weren't French Fries invented in Belgium?

I was guessing they were flowers but french fries sounds more like something TAR would do. Wikipedia says french fries were invented in either Belgium or France back in the late 1600s - early 1700s.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 04, 2017, 07:09:47 AM
To answer your question Miakenzi --

Any posts that confirm elimination of the teams have/will be deleted or edited out of respect for the family of the teams. We technically cant really confirm whether a team has been eliminated or not until we see it unfold on the show. Until then, as far as sightings go, we can all feel free to interpret the evidence whichever way we want.

(This is what I was told by a moderator.. not word for word but the jist of it)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 04, 2017, 07:24:55 AM
Are those costumes they're wearing supposed to be French Fries??? Weren't French Fries invented in Belgium?

I was guessing they were flowers but french fries sounds more like something TAR would do. Wikipedia says french fries were invented in either Belgium or France back in the late 1600s - early 1700s.

The yellow parts are shaped like fries, the white is supposed to be the serving "cone."
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 04, 2017, 08:08:17 AM
Removed information about TAR 16 that I mistakenly thought was current news.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 04, 2017, 08:13:20 AM
I'm pretty sure that the French fries cones are the Indy500 team.

The shoes match earlier shots of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 04, 2017, 08:16:42 AM
Here is a clear shot of their shoes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:17:09 AM
I'm pretty sure that the French fries cones are the Indy500 team.

The shoes match earlier shots of them.

Yes it is them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
Crote Markt looks like the Pitstop of this Leg. Saw in the videos posted Phil is with a woman in a Medieval-inspired dress, Pitstop Greeter. Do we have leads as to the order of arrival? Aside from the Indy Drivers, there was another team there in the fries costume, could not make it out clearly who they are.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:24:02 AM
you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?

I'm pretty sure that the French fries cones are the Indy500 team.

The shoes match earlier shots of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:25:00 AM
you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms based on that description.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:27:32 AM
yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARGoodness on October 04, 2017, 08:28:10 AM
Plaidmoon - that Reddit thread was talking about another BB team that had been on the race previously. Not Jessica and Cody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:33:50 AM
yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:37:32 AM
Yes but the hair and height don't match so it's throwing me off as well

yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 08:38:40 AM
Hi guys! It appears the post about confirming the ring girls have been eliminated has been deleted (Or my computer/phone are messing up). If it was deleted was there something that made you question if they are still in the running?

Not really. We didn't actually see them get eliminated. However, they have not been sighted since. They were not visible in Schiphol or at the train to Antwerp. So....

They looked like great fun at the start! So sorry we didn't get to see more.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 04, 2017, 08:42:25 AM
Plaidmoon - that Reddit thread was talking about another BB team that had been on the race previously. Not Jessica and Cody.

Oops. You appear to be right. I'll remove my earlier post to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:44:01 AM
Yes but the hair and height don't match so it's throwing me off as well

yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.


I'm thinking It's 1/2 of the Skiers and 1/2 of the Lifeguards, the female one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:54:30 AM
Yes but the hair and height don't match so it's throwing me off as well

yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.


I'm thinking It's 1/2 of the Skiers and 1/2 of the Lifeguards, the female one.

Don't think it's that because they have to be immediately separated after they check in
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
Sorry, my bad for thinking they were the violinists instead!

My instinct was that it was the female lifeguard as well, but would that be possible at a pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:13:09 AM
Normally they are separated immediately after check in at a pit stop. But now that I am looking at the screen capture it looks as though they could be waiting on line for that cart. Maybe the pit stop was very close. Has happened before. It looks as though they were still filming bc check out the back right corner. There is someone else in costume by a camera. It looks like they have a black hat on?


Sorry, my bad for thinking they were the violinists instead!

My instinct was that it was the female lifeguard as well, but would that be possible at a pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 04, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
You sure those two aren't the debate team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 04, 2017, 09:25:18 AM
Normally they are separated immediately after check in at a pit stop. But now that I am looking at the screen capture it looks as though they could be waiting on line for that cart. Maybe the pit stop was very close. Has happened before. It looks as though they were still filming bc check out the back right corner. There is someone else in costume by a camera. It looks like they have a black hat on?

Good catch, so does that give us some sort of finishing order then?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:26:21 AM
I think you are right. The outfits match..They have on black and white sneakers on as well which they had in the past


You sure those two aren't the debate team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:33:46 AM
Normally they are separated immediately after check in at a pit stop. But now that I am looking at the screen capture it looks as though they could be waiting on line for that cart. Maybe the pit stop was very close. Has happened before. It looks as though they were still filming bc check out the back right corner. There is someone else in costume by a camera. It looks like they have a black hat on?

Good catch, so does that give us some sort of finishing order then?

not too sure but thats indy checked in... possibly the debate team... (and black hat contestant) prob checked in a little before or after them im guessing? what do you think
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 09:47:05 AM
3a has 4 more
The first two are women, one blonde, one dark haired. Skiers?
Male in black cap ?? Violin??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/Antwerp%20pitstop3A.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:52:43 AM
The hair is too dark to be a skier. And the only other colors that match would be the debate team. The person in the back with hat is too short to be violinist compared to the other man

3a has 4 more
The first two are women, one blonde, one dark haired. Skiers?
Male in black cap ?? Violin??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 04, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
lol why do i just foresee Cody arguing about having to put on the funny looking fry costume and instead quitting the race  :funny:

Either that or he will put it on and just be emotionless for the rest of the leg until he gets to take it off <3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Teamjody on October 04, 2017, 11:42:37 AM
Do I see Cody in the background looking like Jody may have checked in already?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 11:58:57 AM
Do I see Cody in the background looking like Jody may have checked in already?

Might be unlikely. Generally once a team checks in they are whisked away to do their interviews, generally there is no hanging about.

:welcome: to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 04, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Sorry, guys that the friend from near Antwerp wasn't able to make it there this morning after all due to work :(

But I asked about the significance of French fries to Belgium, and he said to never call them that to a Belgian, they're "frites" :lol: It's a rather contentious issue they have with France, which country they originated in.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 01:43:02 PM
Sorry, guys that the friend from near Antwerp wasn't able to make it there this morning after all due to work :(

But I asked about the significance of French fries to Belgium, and he said to never call them that to a Belgian, they're "frites" :lol: It's a rather contentious issue they have with France, which country they originated in.

oh wow thats very interesting to know though. haha is it too early to mark anyone off as safe with the info we have?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
Antwerp flights are pretty minimal. SO I think we have to think train to somewhere or back to AMS if they want flights.

A nice long train ride to Eastern Europe would be lovely. Prague is on my list!


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 04, 2017, 02:25:32 PM
Wouldn't Brussels make sense. I think a train to another destination is most likely. Hopefully Luxembourg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 02:47:42 PM
With how much production has been trying to reduce costs, I don't think they would plan a flight to Amsterdam, a train to Antwerp, then a train back to Amsterdam (or Brussels) to fly somewhere else. Seems to much for just 1 leg, especially with 10 teams.
I'm expecting them to stay in Belgium for leg 3, probably in Brussels.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 04, 2017, 04:30:10 PM
 :hithere: thebasketmakerswife!  :bigwelcome to the R.F.F.!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 04, 2017, 05:05:38 PM
The newest pics seem to be right after the previous ones.  It looks like the Indy Drivers have taken of their "Frites" costumes, and that team Goat Yoga has reached the mat.  The third team was in the previous pics also, but not identifiable (not much help in the new pics, but maybe someone with a better eye can figure out who they are.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 05:28:25 PM
I just posted a new pic. It looks like a road block. Can't identify the first person on floor, one twin, possible yoga mom? And cody last
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 04, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
Hopefully they catch a train to Brussels and have Leg 3 there, get catch a flight to West Africa from there!  :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 04, 2017, 05:48:08 PM
I reckon if they visit anywhere in Belgium it'll be Bruges.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 06:28:23 PM
Me too. But I think one leg is enough, time to TRAVEL!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 04, 2017, 07:06:09 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/martajarsia.jpg)

Are they doing task right next to pitstop?

On picture we can see "Start" ("Friet Race"), maybe is the Pitstop end of that course?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 08:18:00 PM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 08:25:39 PM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Reply 100 in live sightings thread shows Phil, so the pit stop must be there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 04, 2017, 08:46:20 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/A3x.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/A2x%202.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/A1x.jpg)

if ANYONE CAN DO BETTER RESOLUTION PLEASE TRY!

Is that bright pink I see on one of the backpacks?  Could be the skiers there

It's difficult to tell because it's far away and the task flags are pink as well, but it looks to be a different shade, and it seems like the flags aren't strung across at that point

Feel free to move this to spec, but I felt it easier to reply directly on here, than try and vaguely reference it over there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 04, 2017, 09:10:06 PM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Reply 100 in live sightings thread shows Phil, so the pit stop must be there.

But do you see the mat? Hasn't he said in interviews before that there are times when he is barely ahead of the teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 04, 2017, 09:13:03 PM
I just posted a new pic. It looks like a road block. Can't identify the first person on floor, one twin, possible yoga mom? And cody last

Person on the floor is definitely shorter yoga mom (April), sneaker matches to hers from earlier pic. I also think the other guy in black beanie is not Cody, just other twin waiting for his brother to finish roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
Or it could be really close by...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 05, 2017, 04:01:40 AM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Reply 100 in live sightings thread shows Phil, so the pit stop must be there.

But do you see the mat? Hasn't he said in interviews before that there are times when he is barely ahead of the teams?
So what do you imply by that? Do you think Phil was late and therefore stopped at a task location to casually chat with the racers?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 05, 2017, 04:07:31 AM
I found a news story about the Iceland leg from an Icelandic news site. Unfortunately, they seem to have gotten all of their information from us, so there's not much new. It does mention some locations and I'm not sure we have all of these. Since there's not much new, I put it here rather than in Live Sightings. The sentence with the locations:

On the pictures and videos below, you can see teams running Laugavegur, HljůmskŠlagarūur and drinking cod liver oil with power plants at Ingůlfstorg.

Laugavegur is the main commercial street in downtown Reykjavik and also the name of a hiking trail, but I think the first is more likely. HljůmskŠlagarūur is a park with a large pond in Reykjavik and I think it is adjacent to the pit stop location.

Here's the link to the news story: http://www.visir.is/g/2017171009483/amazing-race-aftur-til-islands (http://www.visir.is/g/2017171009483/amazing-race-aftur-til-islands)

Here's a google translation (a poor one) of the Icelandic text:

Amazing Race back to Iceland

Stephen O. Jonsson writes October 5, 2017, 6:45 PM

Taking the Thirty Series of Real-Time Real Estate The Amazing Race has been rejected, and it seems that competitors need to return to Iceland again.

This racing game has been very popular since the first episode was premiered in 2001. 11 double teams travel around the world and solve puzzles in distant countries, the first to succeed in achieving a goal after the trip will receive a lot of money.

In this latest episode, the teams seem to have to bumble up in Iceland if the fans can be considered. They have been diligent to publish images of the team's cravings, which were in Iceland at the beginning of the week.

Below you can see the first clue that the teams received in their hands. There they are told to come to Iceland, more specifically to GeitŠrgljķfur.

A fan took this picture of the first clue of the contestants.
REALITY FAN FORUM
On the pictures and videos below, you can see teams running Laugavegur, HljůmskŠlagarūur and drinking cod liver oil with power plants at Ingůlfstorg.

Contestants in The Amazing Race have previously been sent to Iceland, in particular in the sixth series of events shown at Stage 2 in 2004 to 2005. The fact that Iceland had interfered with the episodes was said to be "one of the biggest country announcements in history." - neither more nor less.

It has not been released when the 37 th episode will be released, but it is expected that it will be at the end of this year or the beginning of 2018.

More photos of the contestants 'adventures can be found at the fans' forum by clicking here.
Below is a photo gallery, you can browse them by clicking the arrows that appear at the edge of the pictures.


The videos and photos are all ones that have been posted here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 05:03:40 AM
Nice! We must have posting at the same time. I just put the link in LIVE as well. I think the video of the lifeguard team answering the 2 questions from the Crossfit Lady to get their clue may be new. Thanks for the translation!

And how nice of them to both credit and link to us. Thank you note sent!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 05, 2017, 05:19:19 AM
Cpt Carnage's post (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1206785.html#msg1206785) has Phil, a greeter, and the mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 05:54:53 AM
Good eye!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 05, 2017, 06:20:38 AM
Fries were invented in Belgium and its original name (les frites) is in french, which is why we call em french fries
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 05, 2017, 07:00:37 AM
Thanks to all of the amazing RFF race detectives!

 :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 05, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
If we knew, we would post it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 05, 2017, 07:10:45 AM
Quote
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=post;quote=1207027;topic=33374.100;last_msg=1207027

so, it looks like we're gonna continue in Europe....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 05, 2017, 07:14:14 AM
Not necessarily.  They could easily be connecting to anywhere in Africa through the major hubs of London, Frankfurt, Madrid, Rome...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 05, 2017, 07:15:26 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 07:24:30 AM
Bad weather has postponed/cancelled many flights right now.

Comment from our live sighter:

Quote
we definitely saw them at the departures, they were just standing near us, we noticed the backpacks and camera. We then followed them over to the tax free declaration queue which I believe is to get their Vat return, not positive. After that they wandered over to the departure screens and looked at the one I sent you. From there it seemed they had time, they were never rushing, and were just chilling. The blond woman walked off one way and the team went down towards arrivals, maybe just looking for a seat, I'm not sure.



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 07:28:20 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought

Eliminated teams do not generally travel with a camera/sound crew and a story producer. That is usually first or last team.

Unless they have brought back Elimination station? ???

And we don't know what parameters they are working under.... Perhaps others could have chosen Brussels vs AMS.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 05, 2017, 07:38:29 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought

Eliminated teams do not generally travel with a camera/sound crew and a story producer. That is usually first or last team.

Unless they have brought back Elimination station? ???

And we don't know what parameters they are working under.... Perhaps others could have chosen Brussels vs AMS.

Thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 05, 2017, 07:49:22 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought

Eliminated teams do not generally travel with a camera/sound crew and a story producer. That is usually first or last team.

Unless they have brought back Elimination station? ???

And we don't know what parameters they are working under.... Perhaps others could have chosen Brussels vs AMS.

Thank you!


This also popped into my mind when I saw the pics posted by Peach. If Henry & Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport. For me it could only mean 2 things either they are connecting via AMS to get to the destination of the sequester or connecting to get to another country since Amsterdam has lots of flights. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 05, 2017, 09:47:50 AM
but don't you all think it is common sense to assume that if "they" are the only team spotted then they might be in trouble. yall need to STOP acting like you are the only ones who have seen this show. We are all TAR fans. I say The Debaters better grab their life vest.....cause its been punctured. See you NEVER>

FYI...im am here to entertain and see how good these "spoilers" are. so far I am NOT impressed...but i am open to be amazed.  ***STANNING TAR SHOW FOR LIFE***
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 09:55:25 AM
The flights that stick out to me are the 2 LHR, Frankfurt, and CDG for good connections onward

OR Bilbao since there were a couple flights there

My issue is that all of the flights on that board seem to be departing around 2 hours from the time on the screen, and yet they're taking their time to get through security and such. Granted 2 hours is a good amount of time, but I alreqdy like to get passed security ASAP as it is, and if I were on the race that would prob be heightened; they're just chilling and taking their time- it just seems really odd
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 09:58:01 AM
We are glad to welcome any TAR fans! Have fun! AfreekNSheets

I agree. Seeing one team alone is always cause for either a lot of joy or a lot of concern. Many a team has run into trouble in Schiphol...remember when Brad and his wife got eliminated due to fog?

But! At least in the past...teams eliminated were not traveling with a camera crew.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 05, 2017, 10:07:16 AM
they are perhaps with a camera crew maybe because they are not eliminated but they are running last which means their travel still has to be documented until they've reached the end of the leg.

why didn't you ask the questions we all want to know...."were they the only ones?" and where were they headed? i came here for the juicy stuff not just not just fluff.

And thanks for welcoming me. the website is very hard to navigate (not-user friendly) but i am a quick learner ;-)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 05, 2017, 10:10:28 AM
they are perhaps with a camera crew maybe because they are not eliminated but they are running last which means their travel still has to be documented until they've reached the end of the leg.

why didn't you ask the questions we all want to know...."were they the only ones?" and where were they headed? i came here for the juicy stuff not just not just fluff.

And thanks for welcoming me. the website is very hard to navigate (not-user friendly) but i am a quick learner ;-)

If they are in Amsterdam however that is not a part of the second leg in Brussels - I am a gabrillion percent sure they got on the train to Antwerp Tuesday night so they definitely got there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 10:20:55 AM
Looking at the flight details from Schiphol, the flights to LHR and Frankfurt were cancelled, but CDG and Bilbao were not but delayed at least an hour

I would think that since they didn't head to a ticket counter while our friend saw them, I would assume that they weren't on one of the cancelled flights
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 05, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
So here's my theory (feel free to debunk it...but don't be RUDE).
There is only one crew spotted because the rest either already left on earlier flight or took different mode of transportation
camera crew are with them because every team are assigned their own (that's how TAR works)
if you are last or eliminated they are with you, whether they are still filming or they aren't needed any longer either.
Lastly, the spoiler never said they were filming it said they were with them.....so that's subject to interpretation.

anyway, we can assume they are last or eliminated.....or just good old SOL. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 05, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
why are ruling out that they could be first? if they are alone couldnt this be the same reason. And if they were taking their time it could be because they had extra time because of that. A story producer also travels with the first team. Eliminated would mean no camera man whether he was filming them or not

So here's my theory (feel free to debunk it...but don't be RUDE).
There is only one crew spotted because the rest either already left on earlier flight or took different mode of transportation
camera crew are with them because every team are assigned their own (that's how TAR works)
if you are last or eliminated they are with you, whether they are still filming or they aren't needed any longer either.
Lastly, the spoiler never said they were filming it said they were with them.....so that's subject to interpretation.

anyway, we can assume they are last or eliminated.....or just good old SOL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 05, 2017, 10:40:07 AM
So here's my theory (feel free to debunk it...but don't be RUDE).
There is only one crew spotted because the rest either already left on earlier flight or took different mode of transportation
camera crew are with them because every team are assigned their own (that's how TAR works)
if you are last or eliminated they are with you, whether they are still filming or they aren't needed any longer either.
Lastly, the spoiler never said they were filming it said they were with them.....so that's subject to interpretation.

anyway, we can assume they are last or eliminated.....or just good old SOL.

Other teams could have taken a different route or several different routes. No reason to automatically assume they were last.
It is my understanding that crews are reassigned teams - I imagine TPTB want more experienced crews to continue if their team is eliminated. In addition, they aren't continually filming 100% of the time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 10:40:39 AM
I was talking to someone on the production team while at the start line.

I was asking about production crews and if they switch or what things looked like, and he said they switch the crews that follow the teams each leg to try and limit advantages/disadvantages due to the crew's speed/efficiency

To me it would seem that they wouldn't need a crew any longer if they weren't racing, UNLESS it's for Elimination Station (which could be a *slight* possibility, given the teams on this season)

As I've been researching the flights, the reason why they could've been taking their time a bit is because MANY of the flights were either delayed or out-right cancelled today, potentially giving them several hours to wander around the airport before being even close to needing to check in

I'm leaning more towards that they took a gamble and could be in some trouble right now, but not eliminated yet
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 05, 2017, 10:43:02 AM
Maybe the clue instruced teams to fly to wherever and could choose to use either Amsterdam or Brussels airport, unlikely but possible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 05, 2017, 10:47:59 AM
They appear to be talking to Production and I was under the impression that production cannot talk to them. Is that correct?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 11:06:07 AM
They appear to be talking to Production and I was under the impression that production cannot talk to them. Is that correct?

Apparently they can in certain situations. Scott from 29 said somewhere about how he made comments on recognizing the revisited tasks, but production actually didn't want him calling them "Switchbacks" for some reason.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 11:09:16 AM
Production is in charge of them and their safety at all times. They definitely talk. Not RACE but general instructions et all.

And :welcome: to you as well! I missed you before.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 11:10:49 AM
If the picture of Jody in the AMS airport was indeed posted immediately after the person ran into them, that would put them being there at 6am today

It seems likely that it was them catching a flight out for leg 3 as opposed to arriving a couple days ago for leg 2, since they seemed to be hanging around the airport; someone was able to spot that it was them, go get food and bring it to them- not likely something that could happen if they were trying to catch a train to Antwerp.

If it's accurate, it could give credence to Henry and Evan still being in the race, but also that they seem to be HOURS behind (and in danger of elimination)- unless every other team was stuck at the airport too, just on the other side of security


Sorry but that photo was taken in AMS PRIOR to going to Antwerp...NOT today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 11:15:15 AM
If they're that far behind, it could also very well mean too that they quit a task in Antwerp and took a penalty. Which apparently goes: 30 minutes not following the clue, 2 hours ARI, 4 hours Roadblock, 6 hours Detour.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
Jody in AMS was arrival before train to Antwerp, they were NOT seen today.

Only team seen today was the Debaters and the time was 1224 first pic.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 05, 2017, 12:09:11 PM
Perhaps the other teams flew from Brussels airport or a smaller Dutch one (Maastricht/Rotterdam/Eindhoven)? It's purely guessing for now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 05, 2017, 12:13:50 PM
If the picture of Jody in the AMS airport was indeed posted immediately after the person ran into them, that would put them being there at 6am today

It seems likely that it was them catching a flight out for leg 3 as opposed to arriving a couple days ago for leg 2, since they seemed to be hanging around the airport; someone was able to spot that it was them, go get food and bring it to them- not likely something that could happen if they were trying to catch a train to Antwerp.

If it's accurate, it could give credence to Henry and Evan still being in the race, but also that they seem to be HOURS behind (and in danger of elimination)- unless every other team was stuck at the airport too, just on the other side of security
(different DAY--see previous posts)

It was not posted immediately. I contacted someone on Twitter who first said her friend just ran into #JODY and told her to try to convince him to post that picture. She responded directly to me yesterday and said I got him to post the pic. And I said "I saw!". So that was before Leg 2. She posted it 20 hours prior than today and he stated he met them the prior night. (Yes we know...it was taken by one of OUR members.)

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 05, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
but don't you all think it is common sense to assume that if "they" are the only team spotted then they might be in trouble. yall need to STOP acting like you are the only ones who have seen this show. We are all TAR fans. I say The Debaters better grab their life vest.....cause its been punctured. See you NEVER>

FYI...im am here to entertain and see how good these "spoilers" are. so far I am NOT impressed...but i am open to be amazed.  ***STANNING TAR SHOW FOR LIFE***
What do you expect :lol: :lol:
No one here is like actually buying plane tickets to catch up with the racers, we're just all collecting sightings from locals and trying to fill the picture as much as possible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 05, 2017, 03:43:24 PM
Has this been posted? It shows Phil recording his intro for the Iceland pitstop.

https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t (https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 05, 2017, 04:20:16 PM
Has this been posted? It shows Phil recording his intro for the Iceland pitstop.

https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t (https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t)

I'm thinking that might be the detour, with Katrin getting one side and the strongmen getting the other.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 04:52:53 PM
Well, if we don't see them again we'll know. :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jesscahc on October 05, 2017, 05:19:03 PM
The strongmen were just for show. I relistened to the video I took. Katrin (in pink) asked them two questions:
1. What do us Icelanders call the drink known as black death? --> Brennivin
2. What is "Ģorskur lifur" --> cod liver oil
After answering correctly and drinking a shot of each, the strongmen then handed teams the clue, which tells them to make their way by foot to the pit stop.

Has this been posted? It shows Phil recording his intro for the Iceland pitstop.

https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t (https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t)

I'm thinking that might be the detour, with Katrin getting one side and the strongmen getting the other.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Caelestor on October 05, 2017, 06:34:45 PM
Bilbao is a possible destination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 05, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
Well, if we don't see them again we'll know. :(

I'm getting the impression that they went to Africa. Remember last season when they went to Tanzania, it took some time before we found info and coincided when they finally reached Norway.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 05, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
https://twitter.com/Savanna06112697/with_replies

this twitter user claiming she saw several teams racing today in Flughafen, Frankfurt
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: clemsonbeav on October 05, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
But Flughafen just means airport in German...there's no city specified, no?  *scratches head*
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 05, 2017, 07:09:28 PM
Flughafen means airport btw :lol: So the Frankfurt thing is something you made up yourself, ShelbysHat.
Call me skeptical, but for someone to go out of their way to find some random race-related tweet to reply to, and then give such vague details, seems suspicious. The user hasn't tweeted in 3 months beforehand, and seems to be a big BB fan, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this news was fake.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WorldTraveler on October 05, 2017, 07:12:26 PM

Does anyone else feel like #Jody might be at an advantage if they have BB fans that are able to find them and offer them some help along the way?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 05, 2017, 07:17:06 PM
Flughafen means airport btw :lol: So the Frankfurt thing is something you made up yourself, ShelbysHat.

yes, 6 years of studying German in school were wasted on me, i don't remember anything, i just assumed based on one of the first google search results
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flughafen
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 07:20:09 PM
That's kind of a relief, actually. Germany is the second most frequented country after France, it would taint this route a little.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 05, 2017, 07:23:24 PM
Maybe Germany was an airport stopover ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 07:24:27 PM
Maybe Germany was an airport stopover ???

Probably. Frankfurt's a major European hub.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 07:24:39 PM
Flughafen means airport btw :lol: So the Frankfurt thing is something you made up yourself, ShelbysHat.
Call me skeptical, but for someone to go out of their way to find some random race-related tweet to reply to, and then give such vague details, seems suspicious. The user hasn't tweeted in 3 months beforehand, and seems to be a big BB fan, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this news was fake.

It's also the district of Frankfurt that holds the airport, hence the name: Frankfurt-Flughafen

The rest seems odd, but that actually does check out in terms of being an actual place on the map- whether teams were there or if this person is a troll remains to be seen

If it is true, I wouldn't be surprised if its some sort of connection onward to somewhere else

It could also bring credence to teams having multiple airport options to travel to- Debate opting for AMS, and Jody opting for FRA

We have seen similar situations in the past (TAR 14 flying into Germany or Italy and taking the train from either into Switzerland), so maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 05, 2017, 07:24:57 PM


Quote
Does anyone else feel like #Jody might be at an advantage if they have BB fans that are able to find them and offer them some help along the way?


No, American BB isn't that well known around the world. And they would have to be pretty big brother fans in other parts to even recognize them to know who they are. They didn't last long Jessica was evicted pre jury and Cody the week after. There's bigger names on this cast like the Basketball team and Indy car drivers. If anyone has a leg up it's them imo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 05, 2017, 07:39:38 PM


What? There are BB superfans who follow MANY franchises worldwide + it began in Europe, not the US. They know who Jody are, trust me. The fact they didn't last long, IMO, actually led to their popularity. At first they were cheered by fans because they were seemingly the only ones playing for themselves & not Paul. After Jessica was evicted Pre-Jury, she campaigned for Cody for America's Favorite Player. They are being shipped hard. (Disclaimer: I am NOT a shipper - I don't care one way or the other, LOL)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 05, 2017, 08:07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Savanna06112697/with_replies

this twitter user claiming she saw several teams racing today in Flughafen, Frankfurt
fake
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 05, 2017, 09:05:15 PM
Oh, no! Not the Frankfurt airport! Bad things always happen to teams there.
 :peek
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 09:27:13 PM
Bilbao is a possible destination.

Based on??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kayd2838 on October 05, 2017, 11:07:35 PM
this was posted on Twitter according to Google translate it's filapino. im not sure if it's referring to our amazing race I'm gonna try to ask. it translates to amazing race is at the airport

UPDATE: I apologize the tweet was lost in translation! Im new :groan: so I havent figured out how to delete this post, I did report it to the mod though as incorrect info.



:welcome: to RFF! No worries! We appreciate the eyes watching! :waves: --peach
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: muninayo on October 05, 2017, 11:21:13 PM
^I understand Filipino...the tweet basically says she had an amazing race-like experience at the airport and that they made it...definitely not a TAR sighting...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 09:06:38 AM
We lost them now  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 09:51:13 AM
It looks to be a roadblock as the male in front is carrying a red clue.

Jessica (of Jessica and Cody - Big Brother)

Henry (of Henry and Evan - Debaters)

Are the 2 of the 4 Iím able to figure out

The male in front looks to be from the Violinists?? Not positive

The male in back Im pretty sure is with the Twins



(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%201.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 06, 2017, 09:51:37 AM
Itís definitely Henry and Jessica. The other two men in the photo are hard to identify, Iím thinking itís one of the twins and no idea who the other guy in the photo is. Itís too blurry for me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 06, 2017, 09:54:26 AM
Tangier, morocco

. How is this chick finding all this info and pics lol

She's just doing what we do. Those pics were on Instagram & Facebook.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 10:30:25 AM
Teams that are confirmed to be still racing on Leg 3 (Tangier, Morocco)

Seen at Roadblock
#Violinists
#MasterDebaters
#Jody
#Twins

we didnít really see the twins in Iceland, but these other 3 teams were bunched up in Reykjavic as well Iím pretty sure.

Violinists were confirmed 4th Place finish on Leg 1 and #Jody and #MasterDebaters weíre ahead of them

And seeing now as #Masterdebaters seem to be still in it and with other teams around, they either chose to go to Amsterdam to find a way to Tangier , or they were just there before the others

Seen at Task where teams are running to package of fish

#Eaters
#Jody
#Violinists
#Basketball

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Teams yet to be spotted on Leg 3 : Tangier, Morocco


#Lifeguards
#Skiers
#Indy500
#GoatYogaMoma

#RingGirls  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:13:20 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers & Dating Lifeguards.

I thought I saw Indy500 but it was a combo of the Eaters and Violinists Iím pretty sure. They are still missing too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:18:35 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers & Dating Lifeguards.

I thought I saw Indy500 but it was a combo of the Eaters and Violinists Iím pretty sure. They are still missing too

Corrected, thanks for the pics.:conf: Is that all?  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 11:20:47 AM
Also, the yellow clue In #Basketball teams hand tells us itís a detour.

So that might explain why the other teams arenít sighted (aside from the 1 team possibly eliminated in Leg 2). They could be doing the other detour
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 06, 2017, 11:23:53 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 06, 2017, 11:25:57 AM
Could they have landed in Spain/Gibraltar and then went to Tangier by boat?

Hoping we get to see Gibraltar, I don't remember TAR going there!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:26:37 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Which airport? I don't know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 06, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Which airport? I don't know.

I remember reading that on here but I could be wrong it was going into leg 3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:31:26 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Which airport? I don't know.

I remember reading that on here but I could be wrong it was going into leg 3

Did not come across that info, but will check. I would assume the latter 3 are now at risk. Team Indy did check in at leg 2 as per sighting. No idea on their placement though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 06, 2017, 11:56:44 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Nope. Not seen does NOT mean not there. It just means we did not see them in this shot at this location.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
AMS>TANGIER

No wonder they weren't hurrying!  :funny:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/AMS_TANGIER%20Flight.jpg)

Hmm so maybe #Debaters were  probably ahead and everyone caught up? or the other teams chose other ways to get there. If they were behind they made up ground because they were seen with other teams in Morocco.

This also explains why amine_kasmi has posted about the amazing race being in Tangier 21 hours ago (could have been setting up the Leg or Phil filming task stuff). However, no media was found until about 9 hours ago (which would be 9am local Tangier time). So whether teams were behind or not there was probably an HoO task or something that got them all bunched up again? So we can assume that this IS Leg 3? And the tasks only begun this morning
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 06, 2017, 12:18:39 PM
Production would have come in beforehand, maybe he just referenced Phil or crew, for the 21 hours ago.

With a night arrival they prob did an hours of op too.

Not sure with seeing a team in AMS at noonish that they could have had time to leave Antwerp, get to AMS, AND have another leg before.

SO I would say Leg 3.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 06, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
This was posted 9 hours ago, the pics of the travelocity gnome were posted 7 hours ago with the twins, jody, yale and violin in the lead?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 12:23:50 PM
Ok:)

And it looks like there was a flight to Tangier out of Brussels as well but a lot later than the Amsterdam one . With all of delays and arriving late to Tangier anyways, I think all teams prob got bunched up at the beginning of Leg 3 anyways.

Much like how they all arrived on the same train for Leg 2
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 06, 2017, 12:24:25 PM
I'm leaning towards 2 legs in Morocco, and a visit to Chefchaouen for leg 4

Yeah, Morocco's a good place for 2 legs, could see that. It's not far from Tangier.

I just looked up the place. Holy crap that is a lot of blue!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 06, 2017, 01:03:05 PM
Location of Roadblock is "The American Legation", as written on a image. That is the first American public property outside the United States, built in 1821. (source: wiki)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%201.jpg)

So Travelocity gnome is still there, yay
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lexie on October 06, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
I'm leaning towards 2 legs in Morocco, and a visit to Chefchaouen for leg 4

Yeah, Morocco's a good place for 2 legs, could see that. It's not far from Tangier.

I just looked up the place. Holy crap that is a lot of blue!!
===================
I didn't know what you meant until I put "Chefchaouen" in my Google bar and nothing but blue came up!!!  That is a LOT of blue!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 06, 2017, 01:09:18 PM
Seems like an ideal place for a unique TAR leg, yeah :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 06, 2017, 01:14:52 PM
Would be really cool if they visited that place - never heard of it but looks stunning!
However, the travel for leg 5 would probably be too difficult then. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 06, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
Casablanca would be better choice, lot's of flights from there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lexie on October 06, 2017, 01:19:14 PM
It would be really cool if the clue said "look for the big blue house"  :chute:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 06, 2017, 01:19:45 PM
Would be really cool if they visited that place - never heard of it but looks stunning!
However, the travel for leg 5 would probably be too difficult then. ???

They would just travel back to Tangier and fly out from there

It seems to have decent connections to major European hubs
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 06, 2017, 01:24:44 PM
so we still are not sure if this is leg 3 or 4? 

I heard somewhere that the Ring girls and Yoga Moms are eliminated. 

So far this leg the Racers, Debaters, Violinists, Twins, Jody and Basketball players have all been spotted.

The only teams not seen are the lifeguard couple, the eaters, and skii girls? 

Those 3 (possibly 2 if this is the 4th leg) seem like they would be the weakest teams left so I wonder if they are behind..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 01:31:50 PM
No . The only teams not seen so far this leg are #skiers #yogamoms #lifeguards #indy500 (although they checked in for leg 2 and were seen ahead of other teams) and #ringgirls (obviously)

If you factor in Pit stop rest periods and getting into Antwerp late at night and Tangier later at night (the racers would get bunched up and do the tasks the next day in the morning)

This is Leg 3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Caelestor on October 06, 2017, 01:37:57 PM
Do we think this TAR will be visiting all seaside cities, similar to the island theme of TAR 25?

Is Gibraltar in play? It's right across the Strait.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 06, 2017, 01:41:31 PM
I think we need to look closer at that video, I think there are more teams there. Not seen does not mean eliminated,  We have had teams reappear suddenly 5 or 6 legs later.

We are sorta looking through a periscope here, we def don't see everything!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 06, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
No . The only teams not seen so far this leg are #skiers #yogamoms #lifeguards #indy500 (although they checked in for leg 2 and were seen ahead of other teams) and #ringgirls (obviously)

If you factor in Pit stop rest periods and getting into Antwerp late at night and Tangier later at night (the racers would get bunched up and do the tasks the next day in the morning)

This is Leg 3

ok cool.. Is it safe to assume this leg is now over and they are on rest period before leg 4 starts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 06, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
No . The only teams not seen so far this leg are #skiers #yogamoms #lifeguards #indy500 (although they checked in for leg 2 and were seen ahead of other teams) and #ringgirls (obviously)

If you factor in Pit stop rest periods and getting into Antwerp late at night and Tangier later at night (the racers would get bunched up and do the tasks the next day in the morning)

This is Leg 3

ok cool.. Is it safe to assume this leg is now over and they are on rest period before leg 4 starts?

Well based on the clues seen in racers' hands, we've already had a Roadblock and Detour for this leg, could have been a third ARI task. Quite possibly. It's after 8:00 in Tangier now, it'd be getting dark.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 05:04:40 AM

I talked with the guy who was in morocco and posted those pics... and according to him they started at the docks and then went to the gnomes. The first 4 teams he saw were the picture with jess, debaters, emts,and violinists.. Also he said he only saw 8 teams which makes me think it was indeed leg 4. And further evidence of this is he has a picture with 8 blue structures which I assumed was significant. (most assumed it was leg 3 just because we had no intel the day prior)





And now that I take a closer look, I think I see the Twins in the first capture. Next to #Basketball and one of the team members is carrying both bags. Idk though thereís so much going on and apt of the people in the pic are production.

Iím wondering if itís 2 teams per Station. I want to know if this took place before or after the Roadblock w/ gnomes pics we saw.

Other teams (aside from eliminated contestants) could be at the other detour .. or ahead or behind

If I take other seasons in account, thereís a good chance they have to bring the gnomes to Phil at the pit stop. Which would mean the roadblock happened AFTER the teams running to get to the cartons of fish (gnomes arenít visible)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 07:02:34 AM
hmmm Im still not sure about how it would be Leg 4.

The Race started on 10/1. The teams landed in Reykjavic, Iceland on 10/2. They finished the leg in the afternoon.
Teams weren't spotted until the afternoon of 10/3 at the Keflavic Airport (after their mandatory rest period). Keep in mind that Phil and production have to be one step ahead of the racers as far as filming and set up goes. Also, the teams are required to have a great chunk of rest time between legs/travel. Sometimes the amount of time they have for rest depends on the itinerary for the next leg/flights and travel accomodations.

Teams arrived in Amsterdam the evening of 10/3 and then headed to the train station to take a late train to Antwerp, Belgium. They arrived really late on 10/3 and due to filming and HoO type stuff (they were heading to a SHOP in Antwerp) the leg wouldnt be until 10/4 in the morning which checks out with the daylight we saw in pictures (teams wearing fry costumes). Assuming the guests checked in during the afternoon on 10/4, they wouldnt leave the pit stop and start the next leg until 10/5 in the morning at least.

This goes along with our sighting of the Debaters at the Amsterdam airport on 10/5. You have to think about travel time to get to the airport from Antwerp and other teams possibly went to other airports to catch flights to Tangier (we know that the Debaters are still bunched with the other teams because we spotted Henry at the roadblock in Tangier with a couple of the other teams). The flight from Amsterdam to Tangier didnt land until late 10/5 meaning once again due to filming and HoO type stuff, the tasks for leg 3 couldnt really be completed until 10/6 which checks out with the pictures we saw of the race on 10/6 (the cartons of fish at the pier/roadblock with gnome)

It's not really possible for there to have been another leg in that time. Correct me if im wrong

If the guy that spotted the teams really didnt see a 9th team, that could mean a number of things. Remember, if we dont physically see a team checking in last place, it's all just speculation. The gentleman who posted the photos didn't mention that the blue structures had anything to do with the task did he?

But the team/s he didn't spot could have done the other detour or been far ahead or far behind or he just didnt recognize them . If he was keeping an eye on the tasks/teams the whole time, he would have posted more pictures. No?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 07:14:54 AM
hmmm Im still not sure about how it would be Leg 4.

The Race start on 10/1. The teams landed in Reykjavic, Iceland on 10/2. They finished the leg in the afternoon.
Teams weren't spotted until the afternoon of 10/3 at the Reykjavic Airport. Keep in mind that Phil and production have to be one step ahead of the racers as far as filming and set up goes.

Teams arrived in Amsterdam the evening of 10/3 and then headed to the train station to take a late train to Antwerp, Belgium. They arrived really late on 10/3 and due to filming and HoO type stuff (they were heading to a SHOP in Antwerp) the leg wouldnt be until 10/4 in the morning which checks out with the daylight we saw in pictures (teams wearing fry suits). Assuming the guests checked in during the afternoon on 10/4, they wouldnt leave the pit stop and start the next leg until 10/5 in the morning at least.

This goes along with our sighting of the Debaters at the Amsterdam airport on 10/5. You have to think about travel time to get to the airport from Antwerp and other teams possibly went to other airports to catch flights to Tangier (we know that the Debaters are still bunched with the other teams because we spotted Henry at the roadblock in Tangier with a couple of the other teams). The flight from Amsterdam to Tangier didnt land until late 10/5 meaning once again due to filming and HoO type stuff, the tasks for leg 3 couldnt really be completed until 10/6 which checks out with the pictures we saw of the race on 10/6 (the cartons of fish at the pier/roadblock with gnome)

It's not really possible for there to have been another leg in that time. Correct me if im wrong

Yes, my thinking is that they had a pit stop either before or  once landing in Tangier.... again the key to this is the fact the person present only saw 8 teams and we went a day without knowing where they were so itís been very possible they had a 3rd leg and were on their 4th yesterday
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 07:38:49 AM


Downtimes can be 6-8 to 24 hours. Usual is about 12. 
They may have been able to squeak in another leg somewhere. I'll have to look. Iceland? ??? Dunno. Gibralter could have been fast.

But the blue structures are posted upstream here ^^^ so agree there could only be 8 teams left this leg. Possible, not confirmed.
But inclined to believe this so we need to explore all options!!


Our remaining FF teams have not been seen (skiers, yoga) so there is that. HUGE bummer if we lost all 3 FF teams first.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 07:42:14 AM
I found some more information about the Tangier leg and a possible additional task from someone who apparently allowed part of the leg to be filmed at her location. There were two messages (translated from Italian):

Today could be the last day of shooting of The Amazing Race Morocco "from our terraces, two staff boys, especially appreciated the Italian cappuccino that I passed from our kitchen terrace. good day at all

and a second message:

And voila :) , thanks to all of you friends, that we are sure you will be in this new adventure <3

Goodbye friends, with great pleasure once again we share with you an event that is being held today in our big house in Tangier, on our terraces will turn an episode of the famous The Amazing Race, the shooting of today will be a competition between athletes who they will launch with ropes from our terraces, which are the tallest, on other homes located in in Medina below us .... for over a month we are involved in this beautiful adventure, the movie troupe has arrived directly from Hollywood, supported by the film directors of our Studios in Ouarzazate located south of Morocco between the Sahara dunes


It sounds like the teams rappelled or climbed down ropes to the Medina, which is the labyrinth of alleyways, both commercial and residential inside the walls of a 15th-century Portuguese fortress.

Here's a picture that was posted that seems to be where the filming took place.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Terrace.jpg)

Depending on when this picture was posted, this could be from Leg 4 (?) taking place today?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 07, 2017, 07:53:17 AM
The information I found and that picture was posted just over 24 hours ago, so it had to have been from the leg filmed yesterday. I'll add that to my other post in Live Sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 07, 2017, 07:58:03 AM
Why Tangier is giving two legs? That makes me unfair.

It is supposed only one leg within a population of 950,000 people. I checked in the sightings thread are Jody, #Basketball, #Eaters, #Twins, #YaleDebaters and #Violinists spotted in Tangier.

The only teams hadn't seen in Tangier are #Skiers, #Indy500, #LifeGuards or #YogaMoms (one of them are possibly eliminated in Antwerp).

The information I found and that picture was posted just over 24 hours ago, so it had to have been from the leg filmed yesterday. I\ll add that to my other post in Live Sightings.

As so, Leg 4 hasn't begun yet. So Gibraltar is totally small and unfair to visit there. Leg 4 would be going to start around Saturday late night/Sunday night Tangier time heading to Eastern Europe.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:02:06 AM
Claude I disagree with you.

Bottom line is THIS COULD BE LEG 4 OR LEG 3, we need to figure it out.

Fair doesn't mean a thing. :groan:

SO please do NOT word your spec as fact..we do not know right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:04:42 AM


Depending on when this picture was posted, this could be from Leg 4 (?) taking place today?

No. Morning of OCT 5. Tangier time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 07, 2017, 08:06:52 AM
Calibound summed it up very nicely.
I don't think there was time for another leg between Antwerp and Tangier.

As teams checked in in the afternoon of 10/04 in Belgium, and were then spotted a day later, it technically might have been a KOR, staying in Belgium for another leg. But I'm pretty sure we would've got sightings - the Antwerp leg was really well documented, even making Belgian TV!

The only other option is that maybe there was a leg on 10/05, and so Debaters flew there from Amsterdam. But it was reported they weren't in a rush. And there would be a very small timeframe to travel to Tangier and have tasks taking place on 10/06, even if this was a KOR.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:11:18 AM
The 8 blue things could have been Gnome stands? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 08:16:31 AM
Calibound summed it up very nicely.
I don't think there was time for another leg between Antwerp and Tangier.

As teams checked in in the afternoon of 10/04 in Belgium, and were then spotted a day later, it technically might have been a KOR, staying in Belgium for another leg. But I'm pretty sure we would've got sightings - the Antwerp leg was really well documented, even making Belgian TV!

The only other option is that maybe there was a leg on 10/05, and so Debaters flew there from Amsterdam. But it was reported they weren't in a rush. And there would be a very small timeframe to travel to Tangier and have tasks taking place on 10/06, even if this was a KOR.

Exactly. And the flight from Amsterdam to Tangier (that Debaters were waiting for) didnt arrive until after 8pm local time on 10/5. So my thoughts are that the leg had started that afternoon and finished the morning/afternoon of 10/6 in Tangier as the teams would have had to be stopped at some point due to HoO type task. Whether it be rapelling from that house or something else.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 08:17:11 AM
The 8 blue things could have been Gnome stands? ???

That makes more sense than my initial thoughts.  :funny:

I thought they were just added as decoration based off what the poster of the picture said
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:18:08 AM
Lets look at some pics again. This is the last frame of the video. NBA is running towards a station, I THINK there is another team there already.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/last%20cap.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:24:47 AM
Play with these, see if they help on ID's.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/last%20cap.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked2.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked3jpg.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked4jpg.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked5pg.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked6.jpg)

Ignore the numbers on the last two.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:28:16 AM

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%206.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 08:37:10 AM
What if the missing leg was split between locations?

In recent years the VAST majority of legs fall into this format: travel-tasks-pit stop

BUT that wasnít always the case, especially so in the early seasons- some legs went tasks-travel-pit stop, and some even went tasks-travel-pit stop (S1L3- all tasks in Paris, then travel to Marseille for Pit Stop)

Tasks couldíve been started before we saw Henry/Evan at Schiphol, and finished when teams arrived in Tangier that night
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 08:48:44 AM
What if the missing leg was split between locations?

In recent years the VAST majority of legs fall into this format: travel-tasks-pit stop

BUT that wasnít always the case, especially so in the early seasons- some legs went tasks-travel-pit stop, and some even went tasks-travel-pit stop (S1L3- all tasks in Paris, then travel to Marseille for Pit Stop)

Tasks couldíve been started before we saw Henry/Evan at Schiphol, and finished when teams arrived in Tangier that night

Its possible... but then again, the teams would have gotten into Tangier really late. And then you have to take into account the mandatory rest period. Teams were already doing tasks in Tangier early morning 10/6
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 09:13:10 AM
They like to make teams rough it the first night.

Suppose they did the first clue/leg/reststop all out in the Iceland countryside?

Then next leg intown?

Remember we see them getting gas in the AM. They would have had to do a LOT more driving to empty a full tank than just to that one location.
 2 legs in Iceland nay be our missing bit...but haven't plotted out times. They could make the rest stop10-12 hours.
First leg is keep them miserable lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 07, 2017, 09:14:59 AM
That could explain that earlier leaked clue. It mentioned a glacier outside of town.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 09:17:11 AM
hmmm but weren't all the teams (minus 1) spotted leaving Keflavic Airport for Amsterdam?

If there were 2 legs in Iceland, that would mean the #RingGirls were the 2nd team to go missing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 09:18:44 AM
The clue I posted with additional info was for their first clue. NYC to Iceland. We know they were in airport about 6AM IIRC? so one full leg that day.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 09:19:23 AM
The teams landed AT Keflavic airport at about 6am local time didnt they?

The started arriving in Reykjavic town center at about 12pm local time..

That seems like enough time to head to the glacier and then do a task and then head to Reykjavic where the pit stop was
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 09:31:49 AM
Cancel that Iceland idea.

Confirmed with source that the intown TAR sighting was OCT 2.


First sighting at the gas station was around 8:10am

Joey Chestnut sighting was around 1:47pm


The video was taken around 12:45ish

So must have been the kind of car rental that doesn't start you with a full tank.

SO one full leg. Waterfall/something else/town/maybe more.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 02:52:04 PM
Possible Goat Yoga FF Sighting

Hair seems like a match for April and the shoes are a match. Only thing is I'm not sure of is if that person is a racer.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 03:04:36 PM
Possible LifeGuard Sighting

Yellow Shirt, Black Backpack, Clue Envelope?

Shoes are a possible match; 90%
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
So we have 6 100% confirmed in Morocco (#TwinMedics, #ProEaters, #Basketball, #Jody, #Violinists, and #Debaters)

Next, we have 2 potential sightings of additional teams (#Lifeguards and #GoatYoga)

If this is indeed leg 4 with only 8 teams, and all findings can be proven accurate- things are not looking good for #Indy500 and #Skiers

HOWEVER, I'm a bit more confident with the possible #Lifeguard ID than the #GoatYoga ID
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 03:15:41 PM
Possible Goat Yoga FF Sighting

Hair seems like a match for April and the shoes are a match. Only thing is I'm not sure of is if that person is a racer.

That's def not goat yoga. Look at the white back of the shoes it's much thicker than hers. Also she has a side shoulder bag on and a different Fanny pack. I don't think this is a racer it looks like a worker who is taking their time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
Possible Goat Yoga FF Sighting

Hair seems like a match for April and the shoes are a match. Only thing is I'm not sure of is if that person is a racer.

That's def not goat yoga. Look at the white back of the shoes it's much thicker than hers. Also she has a side shoulder bag on and a different Fanny pack. I don't think this is a racer it looks like a worker who is taking their time

Its eerily freaky how both females have similar leg positioning.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 04:38:30 PM
I don't buy this yet so I'm going to put this here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 04:47:37 PM
I don't buy this yet so I'm going to put this here.

They're probably just siphoning off every word we say.

Would have been from where someone in the unconfirmed locations thread last night speculated Russia, and then I said how it's too politically sensitive for Americans right now with all the negative media coverage. Therefore unlikely.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 05:00:10 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 07, 2017, 05:28:14 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

*deleted because of all the overreactions.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 07, 2017, 05:44:51 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.


I am not sure though because even though they are a Jody fan they do seem to provide some pictures and seem to be big fans of TAR.. I think somebody has a connection to somebody on TAR crew. 

Also they didn't say Jody got first every time.. THey said they think Jody got 1st on leg 1, around 4th on leg 2, and were in the top 3 this leg but weren't 100% sure..

They also claim the ring girls, and yoga moms are out and are quite hesitant to release information until they are sure.

I mean I am still very skeptical but I wouldn't brush it off completely. 

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 05:53:14 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

Iíd like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... Iíll wait but you canít find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but thatís pretty widely accepted. Whereís a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), whereís a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists wonít like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 07, 2017, 05:56:00 PM
If we are going to call some reporting as misleading and others as facts then letís get it clear. Nothing on this site is fact. Itís all calculated guesses based on sightings and limited information given. That means anyone can come up with a logical explanatio/assumptionsn of the info we have. So stop calling people names and insulting people because they arrive at different conclusion from yours. Letís be respectful of each other and keep looking for sightings as it gets us all excited.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:05:43 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

Iíd like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... Iíll wait but you canít find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but thatís pretty widely accepted. Whereís a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), whereís a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists wonít like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.

Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So letís not just all get along ....  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:11:56 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

Iíd like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... Iíll wait but you canít find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but thatís pretty widely accepted. Whereís a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), whereís a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists wonít like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So letís not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 07, 2017, 06:14:16 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

Iíd like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... Iíll wait but you canít find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but thatís pretty widely accepted. Whereís a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), whereís a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists wonít like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.

We've had BB players before - remember Brenchel? We do welcome new viewers. The reason why Jody are "saturating" SM right now has nothing to do with the fan base for TAR. It's because it's filming and the vast majority of TAR fans do not want to be spoiled - they avoid SM like the plague. The Jody shippers are still on a high from BB19 and that's understandable.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:15:13 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:


LOL WOW
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:15:54 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:


Lol wow. That's interesting
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:16:19 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:


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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:20:23 PM
Someone wanted proof of all the bragging right? It started immediately from leg one. Can keep going but I won't
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 07, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
People in Jessica and Cody's camp :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 06:25:43 PM
PLEASE MOVE JOEY LOVE/HATE TO JODY DISCUSSION BOARD, THANK YOU
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:26:35 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

Iíd like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... Iíll wait but you canít find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but thatís pretty widely accepted. Whereís a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), whereís a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists wonít like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So letís not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president

Not selling anyone short, just stating the facts and you can see that she posts where she found the info and took it from as she posts the user in the pic....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:28:04 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

Iíd like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... Iíll wait but you canít find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but thatís pretty widely accepted. Whereís a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), whereís a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists wonít like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So letís not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president

Not selling anyone short, just stating the facts and you can see that she posts where she found the info and took it from as she posts the user in the pic....

Well thank god we have Jody fans scouring the internet I don't know how Georgia peach ran her site for all these years finding the pictures lol k
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:28:21 PM
Someone wanted proof of all the bragging right? It started immediately from leg one. Can keep going but I won't

Yes, please provide more proof because this is just someone reacting to a fact. Where did they make some claim they won every eg? Youíre reaching far but not far enough
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:29:51 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
People in Jessica and Cody's camp :)

I actually talked to the guy who took the pics in Tangier and I was the one who posted that they were the first 4 teams to the detour and he only saw 8 teams...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:30:40 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why itís so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

Iíd like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... Iíll wait but you canít find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but thatís pretty widely accepted. Whereís a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), whereís a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists wonít like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So letís not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president

Not selling anyone short, just stating the facts and you can see that she posts where she found the info and took it from as she posts the user in the pic....

Well thank god we have Jody fans scouring the internet I don't know how Georgia peach ran her site for all these years finding the pictures lol k

Youíre welcome! Its fun!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 06:32:19 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
People in Jessica and Cody's camp :)

I actually talked to the guy who took the pics in Tangier and I was the one who posted that they were the first 4 teams to the detour and he only saw 8 teams...

Oh Iím sorry! You should have said so. You can just post a screenshot of the convo in the live sightings thread. We would all appreciate it. That will help us put together pieces of the leg!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 07, 2017, 06:33:10 PM
Can you guys please talk about Jody in the appropriate thread.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 07, 2017, 06:34:44 PM
where in the world is a "metro fountain"...?

(https://image.ibb.co/eMmEAb/1.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: tennis33 on October 07, 2017, 06:36:48 PM
where in the world is a "metro fountain"...?

(https://image.ibb.co/eMmEAb/1.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

That is in Montreal. They want there on TARcan season 2
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 06:38:27 PM
where in the world is a "metro fountain"...?

(https://image.ibb.co/eMmEAb/1.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

As a Canadian...100% not from this race. That's the Montreal subway entrance sign.

(http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/43608a129480429788dfd9c9ce5a5a77/montreal-subway-entrance-d4nr4g.jpg)

They either got that from Family Edition, or TAR Canada 2, which went to the same place in Montreal
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:43:31 PM
That Canada pic was so random I wonder where they found that lol thought they went back for a sec
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 07, 2017, 06:55:45 PM
glad it is not in canada that would be uneventful (no offense canadians)..

I wonder when the first non elimination leg is going to be or if the Morocco leg might have been one?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 07:00:00 PM
Well, if next leg's sightings yield a Speed Bump sign, you'll know :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 07, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
Where was that picture of Cody taken (in the live sightings)

It doesn't look like Morocco ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 07:05:06 PM
Where was that picture of Cody taken (in the live sightings)

It doesn't look like Morocco ???

It's old and not from the race. I Believe LA and he has a cellphone in his hand
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 07:05:45 PM
Where was that picture of Cody taken (in the live sightings)

It doesn't look like Morocco ???

Nope. That's LA. Looked up the bus, it says "largest clean-air fleet".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 07, 2017, 07:09:39 PM
Ya that is defenitly a picture from before the race when he and Jessica were walking with her dog in LA lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 07, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
PLEASE MOVE JOEY LOVE/HATE TO JODY DISCUSSION BOARD, THANK YOU
I appreaciate all the new people. It's quite amazing to see so many new users here this season. And I love it! I watched BB19 and Jody were my favorite people, so I'm rooting for them a lot as well.
However, peach even created a new separate thread for all the off-topic discussion about Cody. So please use it!

I acknowledge that many spoilers have come from Jody fans who have possibly not followed TAR before, but there is a way in which this board operates.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 11:31:50 PM
No leads after a day of searching.

Have a few thoughts/theories I'll share:

Possible Double Elimination in Leg 2

Possible traveled to unknown destination and had a KOR leg (making us on track with 4 legs)

Possible Leg 2 Elimination and another team withdrew (quit, injury, illness or family emergency) - We would still be in Leg 3 for Tangier.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 11:37:25 PM
No leads after a day of searching.

Have a few thoughts/theories I'll share:

Possible Double Elimination in Leg 2

Possible traveled to unknown destination and had a KOR leg (making us on track with 4 legs)

Possible Leg 2 Elimination and another team withdrew (quit, injury, illness or family emergency) - We would still be in Leg 3 for Tangier.

Or leg 3 was split between Belgium/Morocco and what we see in Tangier is Leg 4
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 07, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
No leads after a day of searching.

Have a few thoughts/theories I'll share:

Possible Double Elimination in Leg 2

Possible traveled to unknown destination and had a KOR leg (making us on track with 4 legs)

Possible Leg 2 Elimination and another team withdrew (quit, injury, illness or family emergency) - We would still be in Leg 3 for Tangier.

Or leg 3 was split between Belgium/Morocco and what we see in Tangier is Leg 4


Is it really possible to have a leg sandwiched between the Antwerp & Tangier leg given the timeframe.  Sightings are getting confusing now ???  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 01:19:49 AM
Let's look at what's odd or different.

1. The Amsterdam to Antwerp to Amsterdam travel, both ways by train? Then the long wait for the flight to Tangier.
2. Phil being at the Frites task (we speculated Pitstop COULD be nearby)

I tend to agree with Fossil on a possible injury/illness/emergency. Normally that team would be considered the eliminated team. But maybe the incident happened during the mandatory rest/post elimination. Or a team was injured but carried on to avoid elimination, then it was later determined they would drop out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 02:32:52 AM
What about a Fast Forward?

Team would bypass all of these tasks, hence not being seen by the eye witness

That could also explain why 8 blue structures were set up, if they were later in the leg- production would be aware that a team completed the FF, and they no longer needed to set the extra structure

That would make it leg 3, which would ease up the timeline

The other options speculated seem... unprecedented

Thereís only ever been one other double elim, and that was following a first leg non-elim; it was not a popular twist

The injury theory is plausible, but I rather hope not
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 08, 2017, 04:04:53 AM
It's worth noting that according to Wikipedia, Connor Daly is a type 1 diabetic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 08, 2017, 07:33:56 AM
And now that I take a closer look, I think I see the Twins in the first capture. Next to #Basketball and one of the team members is carrying both bags. Idk though thereís so much going on and apt of the people in the pic are production.

Iím wondering if itís 2 teams per Station. I want to know if this took place before or after the Roadblock w/ gnomes pics we saw.

Other teams (aside from eliminated contestants) could be at the other detour .. or ahead or behind

If I take other seasons in account, thereís a good chance they have to bring the gnomes to Phil at the pit stop. Which would mean the roadblock happened AFTER the teams running to get to the cartons of fish (gnomes arenít visible)

I talked with the guy who was in morocco and posted those pics... and according to him they started at the docks and then went to the gnomes. The first 4 teams he saw were the picture with jess, debaters, emts,and violinists.. Also he said he only saw 8 teams which makes me think it was indeed leg 4. And further evidence of this is he has a picture with 8 blue structures which I assumed was significant. (most assumed it was leg 3 just because we had no intel the day prior)

It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:02:22 AM
Welcome G~Ann! Glad you are here!

Yes, that is always posssible. Part of the fun is the unanswered questions,more Detective work to do!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 08:16:51 AM
And now that I take a closer look, I think I see the Twins in the first capture. Next to #Basketball and one of the team members is carrying both bags. Idk though thereís so much going on and apt of the people in the pic are production.

Iím wondering if itís 2 teams per Station. I want to know if this took place before or after the Roadblock w/ gnomes pics we saw.

Other teams (aside from eliminated contestants) could be at the other detour .. or ahead or behind

If I take other seasons in account, thereís a good chance they have to bring the gnomes to Phil at the pit stop. Which would mean the roadblock happened AFTER the teams running to get to the cartons of fish (gnomes arenít visible)

I talked with the guy who was in morocco and posted those pics... and according to him they started at the docks and then went to the gnomes. The first 4 teams he saw were the picture with jess, debaters, emts,and violinists.. Also he said he only saw 8 teams which makes me think it was indeed leg 4. And further evidence of this is he has a picture with 8 blue structures which I assumed was significant. (most assumed it was leg 3 just because we had no intel the day prior)

It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.

like I said he only saw 8 teams as well.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 08:48:11 AM
What if the rappelling from the ladyís terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:54:10 AM
Sounds to me it was more extensive than one team... Won't that be a gorgeous location??!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 08, 2017, 08:59:25 AM
I would say Fast Forward is the most plausable option although we don't usually see them this early on with the notable exception of S27.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 08, 2017, 09:00:23 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 09:04:19 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 09:22:38 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

I was at the starting line. There definitively were 11 teams there. We are 3 or 4 legs in, so...

All hands on deck searching please!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 08, 2017, 09:56:20 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 10:08:56 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

But the gnome RB sighting was 8 teams with 8 gnome "holders." A FF would account for only 8 teams seen IF they took one of the holders away, but I can't see them doing that??? (edited)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:34:02 AM
What if the rappelling from the ladyís terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:35:59 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

I think you're overcomplicating things...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
What if the rappelling from the ladyís terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...

She said they launched with ropes off her terrace so I'm pretty sure that's rappelling which TAR usually has once a season so yes
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 08, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
Im still confused by if its leg three of four and if both are in Morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:41:29 AM
What if the rappelling from the ladyís terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...

She said they launched with ropes off her terrace so I'm pretty sure that's rappelling which TAR usually has once a season so yes

ah link? mustve missed that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 08, 2017, 10:50:59 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

I think you're overcomplicating things...

I have been watching from afar and you have jumped down many people's throats on this site. Especially last night. I also find it interesting at the exact time last night it went straight to twitter under #jodysearchparty and user teamjody that people were putting "words in your mouths". This has never gone on on rff before and frankly it isn't right what's happening.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:56:40 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

I think you're overcomplicating things...

I have been watching from afar and you have jumped down many people's throats on this site. Especially last night. I also find it interesting at the exact time last night it went straight to twitter under #jodysearchparty and user teamjody that people were putting "words in your mouths". This has never gone on on rff before and frankly it isn't right what's happening.

I wasn't being a dick, just suggesting he was overcomplicating things. IDK what you saw on twitter but wasn't me. I was simply providing info here, correcting people and providing other logic... sorry if your feelings were hurt
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
Okay. Going to say this once more.

Appreciate all the RFF love BUT:

#TAR fun is not an exclusive RFF phenomenon. We like to think we do an outstanding job but we rely on multiple sources. Without the many kind fans sharing on FB and Instagram and Twitter, we would be back in the dark ages of searching photos and blogs weeks later.

RFF has always shared. We teamed with Jokers in the past during BB seasons. We do NOT mind our info being shared.

We DO make every effort to insure that the original poster is credited. Hence the added photo credits to as many pics as possible. Copyright violations are serious business and protecting the rights of the owners of pics is important.

We ONLY ask that those sharing CREDIT us, just as we credit others. And that photos are shared with the correct logos. Removing a logo and Copyrighting a photo that is not yours can result in serious federal legal charges. Lying about sources is also NOT allowed here.

And we make every effort to RESPECT each other here. Personal comments are discouraged...we prefer everyone to keep to the topic.

So let's move on, and GO LOOKING for our teams!! :yess:




Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 08, 2017, 11:09:32 AM
What if the rappelling from the ladyís terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...

She said they launched with ropes off her terrace so I'm pretty sure that's rappelling which TAR usually has once a season so yes

ah link? mustve missed that

Page 11....this thread....post 261 (I think)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 11:14:12 AM
Here is the Spoiler post thanks to Plaidmoon's find:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207288.html#msg1207288

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
Okay. Going to say this once more.

Appreciate all the RFF love BUT:

#TAR fun is not an exclusive RFF phenomenon. We like to think we do an outstanding job but we rely on multiple sources. Without the many kind fans sharing on FB and Instagram and Twitter, we would be back in the dark ages of searching photos and blogs weeks later.

RFF has always shared. We teamed with Jokers in the past during BB seasons. We do NOT mind our info being shared.

We DO make every effort to insure that the original poster is credited. Hence the added photo credits to as many pics as possible. Copyright violations are serious business and protecting the rights of the owners of pics is important.

We ONLY ask that those sharing CREDIT us, just as we credit others. And that photos are shared with the correct logos. Removing a logo and Copyrighting a photo that is not yours can result in serious federal legal charges. Lying about sources is also NOT allowed here.

And we make every effort to RESPECT each other here. Personal comments are discouraged...we prefer everyone to keep to the topic.

So let's move on, and GO LOOKING for our teams!! :yess:


Agree, seemed some TAR fans had issue with Jess and Cody fans posting on social media about spoilers.... but theyíre also the ones scouring social media to find most of what weíve seen. I understand people not liking the new people though...  No sense in acting like anyone is better or worse or has super secret sources, we are all just looking for public info others post on social media... we should all share and may the best stalker find it first!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 08, 2017, 11:25:19 AM
France confirmed...working on uploading a video of a team on some kind of bote and a cluebox!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 11:25:36 AM
Okay. Going to say this once more.

Appreciate all the RFF love BUT:

#TAR fun is not an exclusive RFF phenomenon. We like to think we do an outstanding job but we rely on multiple sources. Without the many kind fans sharing on FB and Instagram and Twitter, we would be back in the dark ages of searching photos and blogs weeks later.

RFF has always shared. We teamed with Jokers in the past during BB seasons. We do NOT mind our info being shared.

We DO make every effort to insure that the original poster is credited. Hence the added photo credits to as many pics as possible. Copyright violations are serious business and protecting the rights of the owners of pics is important.

We ONLY ask that those sharing CREDIT us, just as we credit others. And that photos are shared with the correct logos. Removing a logo and Copyrighting a photo that is not yours can result in serious federal legal charges. Lying about sources is also NOT allowed here.

And we make every effort to RESPECT each other here. Personal comments are discouraged...we prefer everyone to keep to the topic.

So let's move on, and GO LOOKING for our teams!! :yess:


Agree, seemed some TAR fans had issue with Jess and Cody fans posting on social media about spoilers.... but theyíre also the ones scouring social media to find most of what weíve seen. I understand people not liking the new people though...  No sense in acting like anyone is better or worse or has super secret sources, we are all just looking for public info others post on social media... we should all share and may the best stalker find it first!

Those dang Jody fans are at it again.... sighting in Monaco France
https://twitter.com/shinigamishinz0/status/917060623732822017
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
They're doing it again...Alen mentioned the Riviera last night. Bam.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 11:35:52 AM
So is it Monaco or France? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 08, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
These Jody fans are relentless and should Be encouraged to help out more. They donít give up on their #JodySearchParty itís getting us really good info. Whether youíre their fan or not, them finding leads help us track TAR30. Good Job TeamJody I applaud your efforts.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 11:38:24 AM
Okay so the Riviera actually appears to be true.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 11:41:44 AM
The team in the lives looks like TEAM Indy 500.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:42:49 AM
The team in the lives looks like TEAM Indy 500.


Yea agreed it looks like Indy in the video. Also basketball players in photo and there is someone with a yellow hat next to him. Could be lifeguard?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
I think jess is at the end of the video
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 11:49:05 AM
I dunno if thats her.. I think jess is smaller than her.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:50:39 AM
I think jess is at the end of the video

I don't think so. I've never seen a team sitting at the clue box?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:53:00 AM
This isn't a racer.. it's not a baseball cap. It's a woman wearing a large round hat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 11:55:08 AM
I've heard in the past they have people guarding clueboxes to stop passers-by from trying to take one. She could be one of those.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:56:07 AM
I've heard in the past they have people guarding clueboxes to stop passers-by from trying to take one. She could be one of those.

Yes they do. I forgot about that.. and there is also no cameras around too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 12:00:01 PM
I've heard in the past they have people guarding clueboxes to stop passers-by from trying to take one. She could be one of those.

Definitely. And I doubt if she's just a passerby - they would be scooted away.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:02:49 PM


Agree, seemed some TAR fans had issue with Jess and Cody fans posting on social media about spoilers.... but they’re also the ones scouring social media to find most of what we’ve seen. I understand people not liking the new people though...  No sense in acting like anyone is better or worse or has super secret sources, we are all just looking for public info others post on social media... we should all share and may the best stalker find it first!

No issues here...moving on! And first is NOT the goal. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:04:44 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:10:27 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:


I think it's the male from lifeguards if you look st the shorts and legs ..which might make sense because we think she did the roadblock in morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 12:15:43 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:


I think it's the male from lifeguards if you look st the shorts and legs ..which might make sense because we think she did the roadblock in morocco

Oops. I was referring to the other pic.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 12:19:53 PM
RyanAir flight 6008 direct from Tangier to Marseille as possible flight?

Left at about 10am from Morocco, landed about 2pm in France
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
I'm pretty sure the pics we are looking are near the pit stop because that's usually the only
Time they use that big overhead camera.. it also looks like the blonde is the greeter and maybe can see the mat if you look very close. Prob explains why the two teams are next to eachother!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:31:44 PM
Photo here to make references easier.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/St%20Tropez.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:35:23 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It canít be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

ó�ó�ó�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:36:19 PM

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:

Can you please mark the photo to show this? I am not seeing all of that...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

ó�ó�ó�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Awesome summary thanks for this
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:39:41 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It canít be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

ó�ó�ó�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Again, please provide your photo proof so we can see what you are. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:41:08 PM
Photo here to make references easier.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/St%20Tropez.jpg)

Basketball and Lifeguard are seen in this photo... he looks really short next to Basketball. Lifeguard is wearing the yellow hat they have on their bags
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 12:41:48 PM

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:

Can you please mark the photo to show this? I am not seeing all of that...

Shawn (NBA) is on the left. Brittany (Lifeguards) is on the right.

Indy 500 is in another sighting (instagram post with the cluebox). I'll post the screencaps in a sec.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:43:40 PM
Ale Vera ‏ @doco86  3m3 minutes ago

😻 #sainttropez #france #TAR #amazingrace #bb19 #jody #bb #go en Saint-Tropez https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ_mFBygB-5/

Indy 500 spotted for first time since Antwerp
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 08, 2017, 12:43:59 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It canít be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

ó�ó�ó�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

That doesn't make any sense. The 4 teams that were ahead of the others in the gnome race were Jody, Violinists, Debaters and
Twins. Why would they be at risk of not making it to France. The other 3 you mentioned seem more plausible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:45:09 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It canít be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

ó�ó�ó�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

That doesn't make any sense. The 4 teams that were ahead of the others in the gnome race were Jody, Violinists, Debaters and
Twins. Why would they be at risk of not making it to France. The other 3 you mentioned seem more plausible.


Because that was the only task that was seen for a few seconds. We don't even know when that task was but we know it was before a pit stop so anything could have happened
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:45:53 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:46:37 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.

That's not Brittany I'm talking about the picture I posted with the lifeguard hat being the male lifeguard at the pit stop with nba
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 08, 2017, 12:46:44 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.

And the girl in the pic is wearing glasses.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:47:27 PM
Itís called process of elimination. If this is Leg 5 and Basketball, Lifeguards and Indy 500 were all spotted in France (no non elimination)

Than one of those other teams must have gotten elimated in Morocco unless it was a NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 12:48:52 PM
Is it the best idea to pick out a team based on a hat? Remember last season they were all sharing around that "Keesh" hat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:48:57 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.

And the girl in the pic is wearing glasses.

I'm stating lifeguard bc of the pic I posted. Yes I know the glasses is the girl that is a story producer. I'm talking about male lifeguard at the pit stop please look
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
Is it the best idea to pick out a team based on a hat? Remember last season they were all sharing around that "Keesh" hat.

No because that also looks like him and I don't think it's a coincidence he's wearing the hat too. We base off sneakers so what is the difference. There's a better chance basing it off of a hat that resembles him than just sneakers like we do
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
Doco: This is the Indy sighting?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
Doco: This is the Indy sighting?

Yea Georgia. And when you watch the video you can see the blue backpacks and height. Also it's not violinists bc they have the same pants Indy has on in previous  legs
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:58:17 PM
If you scroll up they have had that hat on or attached to them in every picture and have been in grey pants or shirt. This matches the lifeguard description in my opinion I'm pretty positive it's him. I attached some pics
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
Thanks!! I FINALLY got it!!

#goingtoeyedoctorasap
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 01:29:34 PM
Ya I am starting to feel like all the F/F teams are out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 08, 2017, 01:31:43 PM
If you scroll up they have had that hat on or attached to them in every picture and have been in grey pants or shirt. This matches the lifeguard description in my opinion I'm pretty positive it's him. I attached some pics

No it's Indy. The water bottle matches earlier. Shots
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 01:34:07 PM
If you scroll up they have had that hat on or attached to them in every picture and have been in grey pants or shirt. This matches the lifeguard description in my opinion I'm pretty positive it's him. I attached some pics

No it's Indy. The water bottle matches earlier. Shots

I know that's Indy in the video I was talking about the picture I posted next to nba. I was saying it was a lifeguard.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 08, 2017, 01:38:59 PM
I can't spot the cluebox precisely, but this (https://goo.gl/maps/hAeKo8KLSCH2) is close.
The pitstop looks like it's this place (https://goo.gl/maps/7PypK7ESo3J2) off the Place de Lices.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 01:43:11 PM
hahaha...just did image
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 08, 2017, 01:46:10 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 08, 2017, 01:48:23 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:
Who knows, a fast forward might have been in play.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 08, 2017, 01:51:37 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:
Who knows, a fast forward might have been in play.
very true, phil said in the start line that there would be many twists this season
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 01:52:09 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:

NOT SEEN NEVER MEANS NOT THERE. Season 28 a final 4 team reappeared after SIX legs. Remember what we re seeing is like looking through a pinhole...we see tiny fragments only.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 01:52:33 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

ó�ó�ó�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Awesome summary thanks for this
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 01:52:38 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:

This is nothing. Most memorably in Season 28, we had a team who disappeared past leg 2, and they looked like an early goner. All of a sudden, they pop up again much later in leg 7! It can happen.

You never know in filming unless a sighter specifically overhears Phil say "I'm sorry to tell you you've been eliminated from the race"
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 01:54:59 PM
just because we have seen these 3 teams in france doesn't mean they finished first in france though right?  They could be towards the bottom behind some of the other teams.

Also that post is assuming that Morocco was the 4th leg and not the 3rd.. If it was the 3rd it is very likely the last F/F team could have been eliminated in Morocco.. Or Morocco could have been a Non elimination leg for all we know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 08, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
Or Kisha and Jen in TAR 14 #keepthedreamalive
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

ó�ó�ó�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Awesome summary thanks for this
We don't know that they were ahead, because that was the only sighting we saw.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 02:08:49 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:10:10 PM
AGAIN: NOT SEEN DOES NOT MEAN NOT THERE!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
 :hearts:
I can't spot the cluebox precisely, but this (https://goo.gl/maps/hAeKo8KLSCH2) is close.
The pitstop looks like it's this place (https://goo.gl/maps/7PypK7ESo3J2) off the Place de Lices.

Thank you SO much!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 02:12:06 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
All of this ^^^ is why you don't speculate each leg. It's alway advisable to work backwards from a point of visual confirmation or even the final leg. Like Peach said, we only see a wee bit and there are lots of variables in play! For TAR CAN I do up a working chart. (yeah I'm that extreme LOL)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:16:00 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Quote

??? Can be either way though, that is not 10% reliable...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 02:17:15 PM
Another common downfall for teams... taxis/transportation!!

Anything can happen..

In my original post, i was naming the teams that are at a risk of not making it to France. Basically 3 teams have been spotted in France so far, the rest are at risk. Until we have a sighting that confirms them as making it further..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.
:groan: Jesus Christ, with conclusions like this, we're not gonna get anywhere.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 02:20:51 PM
Ya how you place in the previous leg means nothing.. All it takes is one bad leg/mistake or getting uturned and you're out..  Also teams that never win a leg and finish second to last and towards the bottom often have gone on to win the whole thing before.

However, I did hear from someone I trust that Jody did make it past Morroco so I am inclined to believe they at least made it to France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 02:21:49 PM
Ok I get it sorry

Another common downfall for teams... taxis/transportation!!

Anything can happen..

In my original post, i was naming the teams that are at a risk of not making it to France. Basically 3 teams have been spotted in France so far, the rest are at risk. Until we have a sighting that confirms them as making it further..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
Ya how you place in the previous leg means nothing.. All it takes is one bad leg/mistake or getting uturned and you're out..  Also teams that never win a leg and finish second to last and towards the bottom often have gone on to win the whole thing before.

However, I did hear from someone I trust that Jody did make it past Morroco so I am inclined to believe they at least made it to France.
Photo confirmation or firsthand confirmation required. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
Location of this sighting: (https://i.imgur.com/UwxivEO.jpg) (and others)

https://goo.gl/maps/61UQVRL4Xm42
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 08, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.
??????
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 04:52:01 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 08, 2017, 05:01:55 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 05:03:13 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.

Well I'm 100 percent positive that's actually dean the audio guy who's been doing this for years. You'd be surprised how inshape they are and yes that camera is brought to every pit stop
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: James_Earl on October 08, 2017, 05:10:45 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.

They totally can outrun most contestants. They also bring the boom mic everywhere they go. It's part of their travel pack and will pull it out when we can't be on mic (ex: when you are in a bathing suit or skimpy outfit).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 08, 2017, 05:18:03 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.

They totally can outrun most contestants. They also bring the boom mic everywhere they go. It's part of their travel pack and will pull it out when we can't be on mic (ex: when you are in a bathing suit or skimpy outfit).

Oh okay! Good to know!! Just didn't look like the camera guys from New York at all.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 05:27:15 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)

Iím going to say Phil

In the photo with #basketball and what could be #lifeguards standing next to each other, theyíre lined up and facing a blonde woman who appears to be a pit stop greeter

Hard to see, but standing next to her (obscured by cameraman), looks like could (and should) be Phil

Heís wearing a dark top with brown pants, the same as this picture

It also looks like Philís dusty blonde hair here
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 05:28:19 PM
Location of this sighting: (https://i.imgur.com/UwxivEO.jpg) (and others)

https://goo.gl/maps/61UQVRL4Xm42

Great minds think alike! :tup:

Via SLOWHATCH above:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1207574.html#msg1207574
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)

I’m going to say Phil

In the photo with #basketball and what could be #lifeguards standing next to each other, they’re lined up and facing a blonde woman who appears to be a pit stop greeter

Hard to see, but standing next to her (obscured by cameraman), looks like could (and should) be Phil

He’s wearing a dark top with brown pants, the same as this picture

It also looks like Phil’s dusty blonde hair here

100% NOT Phil. He does not have a bald spot. A little blurry but this is from the Start--totally different cut.:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 05:37:43 PM

Great minds think alike! :tup:

Via SLOWHATCH above:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1207574.html#msg1207574

My bad I didn't looked older posts  :groan:
I actually just did google search by that "La Renaissance" cafe  :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: mildwall on October 08, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)

Iím going to say Phil

In the photo with #basketball and what could be #lifeguards standing next to each other, theyíre lined up and facing a blonde woman who appears to be a pit stop greeter

Hard to see, but standing next to her (obscured by cameraman), looks like could (and should) be Phil

Heís wearing a dark top with brown pants, the same as this picture

It also looks like Philís dusty blonde hair here

100% NOT Phil. He does not have a bald spot. A little blurry but this is from the Start--totally different cut.:

Ha. I dont think so. There's another photo and the clothes' color highly matches with each other.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLpu0B9W0AAbxm6.jpg:large)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 07:15:41 PM
Hmmm. Clothes match. Hair sure looks different. (to me,) ???

Thanks for the pic!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 07:16:13 PM

Great minds think alike! :tup:

Via SLOWHATCH above:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1207574.html#msg1207574

My bad I didn't looked older posts  :groan:
I actually just did google search by that "La Renaissance" cafe  :D

The more help the better! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 07:19:29 PM
Hmmm. Clothes match. Hair sure looks different. (to me,) ???

Thanks for the pic!

I think the weird lighting is throwing things off in that pic, the trees are blocking the sunlight, but itís still sneaking through in patches- you can see bright patches on camera crews clothing as well
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 07:24:37 PM
Weird the ones spotted together doing the Gnome challenge in Morroco are no where to be seen in France.

I wonder if  Debaters, Violinists, Jody, Twins are all still close together in this race? Maybe they all finished before Basketball players or maybe they were all behind them?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 08, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
Makes me wonder if NBA players were last.  Do they usually have time to pose for pictures after check in.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 07:39:21 PM
Makes me wonder if NBA players were last.  Do they usually have time to pose for pictures after check in.

Depends.  One of the eyewitnesses in Iceland saw teams doing post-leg interviews not too far from the pit stop, other times they're whisked away to a hotel or other location to do so.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 08, 2017, 07:41:35 PM
Thank you, Iíve watched the show for years but have never been on this board before.  Itís all new to me but exciting to follow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 07:54:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lgfJwOv.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 08, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
Look at photo above.  This is not Phil because it looks more like the shorter guy standing next to Phil with jeans and Nike shoes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:01:27 PM
Okay, I cave. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Also by looking at today pictures of St. Tropez, I noticed at least 3 dfferent helicopters, so that could be the way they reached city.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:06:33 PM
Makes me wonder if NBA players were last.  Do they usually have time to pose for pictures after check in.

Usually the eliminated team is kept separated from the others, have their interview and are PDQ heading to sequester. I don't think I have ever seen an eliminated team posing with a fan. My guess is NBA is safe. That pic definitively shows the MAT as well.

And welcome! We are glad you are here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: justmjlayson on October 08, 2017, 08:08:38 PM
So the destination routes looks like this:

New York City -> Reykjavik -> Antwerp (via Schiphol train from Amsterdam) -> Tangier -> ??? -> St. Tropez?

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you forgot Kym & Alli on their sightings that they might be gone earlier but you're surprised they made it to Leg 9 in S25.    :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 08, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
Also by looking at today pictures of St. Tropez, I noticed at least 3 dfferent helicopters, so that could be the way they reached city.

It's 840 miles as the crow flies from Tangier to St. Tropez, so that seems too far to be taking helicopters. There was probably not enough time for ferry boats, so airline flights are likely.

If you're talking about getting from Marseille to St. Tropez, it seems like a lot of expense for little purpose. I'd think it would be ideal for self driving with great scenic views. Most likely helicopters were used to get aerial views, especially if they were on yachts doing sailing. Just a guess on my part. I have no evidence they did any sailing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 08, 2017, 08:42:30 PM
My two cents is that Saint-Tropez is only Leg 4. This race has for all recent seasons run on a 21 day schedule, with a leg being filmed over a course of two days (one for travel, one for running the actual leg). The only time I've seen a difference is when they stay in the country and don't need a whole travel day. Looking at the timeline we have, there doesn't appear to be time a mystery leg would have been thrown in, with them being sighted in a city every other day: Reykjavik (Oct. 2), Antwerp (Oct. 4), Tangier (Oct. 6), Saint-Tropez (Oct. 8). I could be wrong here and they somehow did sneak something in there, but I don't buy it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 08, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
It would be pretty cool to have them take a ferry from Tangier to Gibraltar ,do a route marker there and then drive from Gibraltar to Saint-Tropez.
It's a 17h hour drive... so maybe if they left yesterday and arrived late last night. That would make France only leg 4 tho...

I think it would give this leg old-school vibes, from when they had super long legs (aka the driving from Portugal to Morocco in season 4)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 08:53:25 PM
If it is, I wonder when the first 2 leg country is coming. Would rather it not be France...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 08, 2017, 10:06:25 PM
Well, there are limited flights from Tangier to Casablanca per week, as the teams would most likely board a train from Tanger Morora to Casa Voyageurs in Casablanca, then flight to Nice via Paris CDG.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 08, 2017, 10:09:19 PM
FYI, the 12 shows in 21 days that Phil says is actually is BS, it's usually 22-24 days
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
Yup. I really don't see enough time for them to have sneaked a leg in there. Plus the race isn't going too slow, we're only a week in and 4 legs have been finished. The pace will be even faster when we have 2 legs in the same country.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 11:32:47 PM
Facebook post of Shawn Marion in the Paris Airport yesterday. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1705989989413848&set=a.1200659149946937.1073741828.100000085898685&type=3&theater

Thanks! Interesting transfer via CDG....???

I could see it- it did have a fair amount of flights arriving at CDG from Tangier, and Marseille had A TON of flights from CDG arriving today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 09, 2017, 12:18:32 AM
Well, there goes the route of underused countries! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 09, 2017, 12:22:48 AM
Well, there goes the route of underused countries! :funny:

Look on the bright side Bourkie, maybe it is just 1 out of the 11 legs that is overused. At least it is a new part of France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 09, 2017, 12:25:31 AM
The NBA guys are on the left and the Yellow team on right checking in at Pit Stop together. Phil in front of cameraman and there's the "welcome" lady next to him in front of the mat. Wish I could post larger photo but won't let me. See brunoveronefrance on insta - larger photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:51:09 AM
Possible twin sighting on the mat with Phil in Saint Tropez. It hard to tell for me but if it is one of the twins he is on the left of the picture.  https://twitter.com/JessicaCodyBB19/status/917258537167998977


New at this so if I'm not posting in the correct spot please help me out. Thanks in advance!

Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. Thatís the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It canít be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France. It would have to Been one  or the other.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted doing the roadblock thing checks out (unless that was a non elimination leg) teams at risk of not making it to France are..



Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Eaters

(If there have been no NEL and Morocco was Leg 3.. theres a possibility Skiers OR Yoga Moms could take the spot of one of the 4 teams above)
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The teams that made it to France are :

Twins
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 02:19:55 AM
The NBA guys are on the left and the Yellow team on right checking in at Pit Stop together. Phil in front of cameraman and there's the "welcome" lady next to him in front of the mat. Wish I could post larger photo but won't let me. See brunoveronefrance on insta - larger photo.


You can see the larger photo in the LIVE thread here  : http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207545.html#msg1207545
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
My two cents is that Saint-Tropez is only Leg 4. This race has for all recent seasons run on a 21 day schedule, with a leg being filmed over a course of two days (one for travel, one for running the actual leg). The only time I've seen a difference is when they stay in the country and don't need a whole travel day. Looking at the timeline we have, there doesn't appear to be time a mystery leg would have been thrown in, with them being sighted in a city every other day: Reykjavik (Oct. 2), Antwerp (Oct. 4), Tangier (Oct. 6), Saint-Tropez (Oct. 8). I could be wrong here and they somehow did sneak something in there, but I don't buy it.

I think this is the biggest indicator of Saint Tropez being leg 4. I can't find anywhere to logically fit in a whole leg + pitstop, even without any additional flights/travel. Is the ONLY reason we're thinking we're missing a leg the 8 teams in Tangier deal?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 05:51:42 AM
Ok, haven't seen this posted but I'll share this speculation..

the eaters were eliminated in Tangier.

Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally. The gentleman who took pictures and watched said he only saw 8 teams and there were only 8 blue gnome holders so 3 teams had been eliminated.. (ring, yoga and skiers I believe).

He also said that group of 4 (Jody,twins,debaters,violinists) were the first 4 teams, and that they made their way to where he was from the docks where we saw the teams as well. So the pit stop I believe was nearby.

So, how does this factor into the eaters being eliminated?

In France we have seen NBA, lifeguards, and Indy only. 3 of the last 4 teams in Tangier. Leaving out the eaters. So, I think it makes a lot of sense they would've been eliminated in Tangier.

Why haven't we seen the other 4 teams? My thinking is two fold, 1. they may have likely been on an earlier flight than NBA, Indy and lifeguards. 2. NBA team is very noticeable as 6'10 black dudes and so the teams arriving around the same time as them are also seen as well.

Also.. for those questioning timeline... realize we still have 2 likely non elimination legs as well as long flights ahead. I think from France they head to either Australia or Asia which will be long extended flights.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: freds on October 09, 2017, 06:30:33 AM
Tomorrow will be a strike day in France. 30% of the flights are cancelled.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 06:37:40 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 06:52:20 AM
Tomorrow will be a strike day in France. 30% of the flights are cancelled.

they won't be there by tomorrow... likely leave today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 07:21:37 AM
My two cents is that Saint-Tropez is only Leg 4. This race has for all recent seasons run on a 21 day schedule, with a leg being filmed over a course of two days (one for travel, one for running the actual leg). The only time I've seen a difference is when they stay in the country and don't need a whole travel day. Looking at the timeline we have, there doesn't appear to be time a mystery leg would have been thrown in, with them being sighted in a city every other day: Reykjavik (Oct. 2), Antwerp (Oct. 4), Tangier (Oct. 6), Saint-Tropez (Oct. 8). I could be wrong here and they somehow did sneak something in there, but I don't buy it.

I think this is the biggest indicator of Saint Tropez being leg 4. I can't find anywhere to logically fit in a whole leg + pitstop, even without any additional flights/travel. Is the ONLY reason we're thinking we're missing a leg the 8 teams in Tangier deal?

Yes. So, if NOT a missing leg, and there were only 8 gnome holders, then what are we left with? An injury/illness/emergency or a FF in play?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 07:23:17 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 07:28:16 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.
I just wanna repost this for emphasis in every single page of every single thread.

dangambler, you're not making unsupported speculation, but neither is oval. And with that, we have to look at which reasoning makes more sense.
The information about there only being a 12 hour gap between Amsterdam and Tangier is fact. And it makes it impossible to squeeze 2 legs in there imo.
So there was either a Fast Forward in Tangier, following which a gnome stand was removed, or simply the person who made the claim about only 8 teams/8 gnomes being there was wrong. I sure hope it's not an emergency exit by a team though.

That's my thinking.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.

I wonder if we consider someone way behind... then would match with sighter only seeing 8 teams?

Does anyone remember what production did in TAR 11/12/23/other seasons when teams screwed up their flights so bad they couldn't even run the leg? Wonder if they'd just set up for 8 teams and cut the team before they even start a leg... has that ever been a thing? I sense this is heading into wild spec territory too, but it is driving me bonkers because I'm not seeing a logical explanation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 07:32:47 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Here is why they are wild:

The guy saw the 4 teams for literal seconds as they passed by- they may have been at the front at the time, but we DONíT KNOW where they were in their process of completing the Roadblock, or even how well they were doing at it

We also DONíT KNOW the location of the pit stop- could be close by, or in another location/city, which could cause shifts in order placement if some teams were to get lost

Also, we DONíT KNOW whether or not Tangier was an elimination leg or not

We DONíT KNOW with 100% certainty whether Tangier was leg 3 or 4, but many find it unlikely that they were able to squeeze a leg in that short of a window and lean toward leg 3

We have also yet to see the violinists, Jody, or the debaters in France, so we DONíT KNOW if theyíre safe or not either

Just because a team was in a good position at one point in a leg, does not mean they did good for the whole rest of it- the only way to know that for certain is to see them check in at the pit stop and to know the order they arrived

Weíve seen things turn terribly for teams between the final task and the pit stop before, so we really canít assume anything now
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:34:47 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:40:45 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Here is why they are wild:

The guy saw the 4 teams for literal seconds as they passed by- they may have been at the front at the time, but we DONíT KNOW where they were in their process of completing the Roadblock, or even how well they were doing at it

We also DONíT KNOW the location of the pit stop- could be close by, or in another location/city, which could cause shifts in order placement if some teams were to get lost

Also, we DONíT KNOW whether or not Tangier was an elimination leg or not

We DONíT KNOW with 100% certainty whether Tangier was leg 3 or 4, but many find it unlikely that they were able to squeeze a leg in that short of a window and lean toward leg 3

We have also yet to see the violinists, Jody, or the debaters in France, so we DONíT KNOW if theyíre safe or not either

Just because a team was in a good position at one point in a leg, does not mean they did good for the whole rest of it- the only way to know that for certain is to see them check in at the pit stop and to know the order they arrived

Weíve seen things turn terribly for teams between the final task and the pit stop before, so we really canít assume anything now

he saw 8 teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 07:41:23 AM
dangambler, do you still remember the source of the 8 team sighting?
I did a little search and can't find who it originated from, but I think it would be best to try and contact them, asking to identify the teams he saw.

Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.
I'm thinking about that as well, and it is unlikely for production to take a gnome out even if a team has already won the FF and are on their way to PS. But at the end of the day, I'm not buying the additional secret leg speculation, so therefore am considerng everything else.

Also think about it, we have had sighting in every single country so far. They haven't gone compeltely unnoticed, because so many people are searching for sightings all other the web this year. Why do we suddenly believe in the unknown just based on 1 little piece of information?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:43:00 AM
dangambler, do you still remember the source of the 8 team sighting?
I did a little search and can't find who it originated from, but I think it would be best to try and contact them, asking to identify the teams he saw.

Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.
I'm thinking about that as well, and it is unlikely for production to take a gnome out even if a team has already won the FF and are on their way to PS. But at the end of the day, I'm not buying the additional secret leg speculation, so therefore am considerng everything else.

Also think about it, we have had sighting in every single country so far. They haven't gone compeltely unnoticed, because so many people are searching for sightings all other the web this year. Why do we suddenly believe in the unknown just based on 1 little piece of information?

some guy on Facebook... I asked him some other questions but he never responded again
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 07:49:17 AM
It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.

Also need to consider this from G~Ann earlier today, but i think this whole 8 team in Tangier thing is worth another good look at.

Can someone also link me to where we figured the gnomes were standing on the blue things (PM is fine)? Can't find it anywhere and honestly, I would have thought its a bit dangerous to have the gnomes balancing on those things right on the terrace ledge. Odd.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:53:17 AM
It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.

Also need to consider this from G~Ann earlier today, but i think this whole 8 team in Tangier thing is worth another good look at.

Can someone also link me to where we figured the gnomes were standing on the blue things (PM is fine)? Can't find it anywhere and honestly, I would have thought its a bit dangerous to have the gnomes balancing on those things right on the terrace ledge. Odd.

I don't know if that is what they were... never understood why people assumed that, but he did take a picture of them so I assumed they were significant in some way.

And I think this guy had either his home or business that was in that alley looking down upon where they were based on his description, and to repeat again, he said jody, debaters, violinists, and twins were the first 4 he saw... and he saw 8 total
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:00:41 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:10:07 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???

or just the much easier and logical answer of just being 8 teams....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:11:52 AM
Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.

I wonder if we consider someone way behind... then would match with sighter only seeing 8 teams?

Does anyone remember what production did in TAR 11/12/23/other seasons when teams screwed up their flights so bad they couldn't even run the leg? Wonder if they'd just set up for 8 teams and cut the team before they even start a leg... has that ever been a thing? I sense this is heading into wild spec territory too, but it is driving me bonkers because I'm not seeing a logical explanation.

That was my thinking as well - there would be 9 gnomes available, if only as to NOT tip off other teams or spoilers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 09, 2017, 08:17:34 AM
I also echo the 9 gnomes thinking.

There's a reason why there are always more clues than needed. They're contingencies and spoiler-proofing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 09, 2017, 08:18:48 AM
Ok, haven't seen this posted but I'll share this speculation..

the eaters were eliminated in Tangier.

Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally. The gentleman who took pictures and watched said he only saw 8 teams and there were only 8 blue gnome holders so 3 teams had been eliminated.. (ring, yoga and skiers I believe).

He also said that group of 4 (Jody,twins,debaters,violinists) were the first 4 teams, and that they made their way to where he was from the docks where we saw the teams as well. So the pit stop I believe was nearby.

So, how does this factor into the eaters being eliminated?

In France we have seen NBA, lifeguards, and Indy only. 3 of the last 4 teams in Tangier. Leaving out the eaters. So, I think it makes a lot of sense they would've been eliminated in Tangier.

Why haven't we seen the other 4 teams? My thinking is two fold, 1. they may have likely been on an earlier flight than NBA, Indy and lifeguards. 2. NBA team is very noticeable as 6'10 black dudes and so the teams arriving around the same time as them are also seen as well.

Also.. for those questioning timeline... realize we still have 2 likely non elimination legs as well as long flights ahead. I think from France they head to either Australia or Asia which will be long extended flights.
:groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:19:38 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???

or just the much easier and logical answer of just being 8 teams....

Never said there weren't only 8 teams. I'm sorry if you are feeling annoyed, but this is how we work out problems. Please do not make assumptions. There could be reasons he only saw 8 teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 08:37:12 AM
What about Marseille airport?

Greater distance but shorter travel time to and from it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:39:48 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:40:32 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???

or just the much easier and logical answer of just being 8 teams....

Never said there weren't only 8 teams. I'm sorry if you are feeling annoyed, but this is how we work out problems. Please do not make assumptions. There could be reasons he only saw 8 teams.

Spot on  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:48:10 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 09, 2017, 08:50:00 AM
Is this TAR at all?
(posting from the phone)
(https://i.imgur.com/vFlTHWV.jpg)
EDIT: Okay, checked team pictures, this is not TAR I guess... BTW, picture was taken near Bled Lake in Slovenia (beautiful place for filming TAR)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:07:52 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.

Once again taking all the credit for everything. Enough already. You are ostrizing yourself by trying to find one team and asking for only one team. There are other racers. That is what this site is all about.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:17:03 AM
SO wait... youíre saying that a lot of the ďspoilersĒ we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Hereís the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we arenít taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because thereís a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldnít have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post ďfactsĒ make sure to back it up with photo evidence
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:23:09 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.

Once again taking all the credit for everything. Enough already. You are ostrizing yourself by trying to find one team and asking for only one team. There are other racers. That is what this site is all about.

taking credit for everything? where did I claim this? I stated the fact that a Jody fan found them in France. I also stated I didn't ask for 1 team.  :chute:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:24:45 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.

Once again taking all the credit for everything. Enough already. You are ostrizing yourself by trying to find one team and asking for only one team. There are other racers. That is what this site is all about.

taking credit for everything? where did I claim this? I stated the fact that a Jody fan found them in France. I also stated I didn't ask for 1 team.  :chute:

Right above you said:

"well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4"
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:26:27 AM
SO wait... youíre saying that a lot of the ďspoilersĒ we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Hereís the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we arenít taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because thereís a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldnít have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post ďfactsĒ make sure to back it up with photo evidence

I posted what the guy said because I asked him. you're a wee bit emotional about this eh? I never claimed it to be fact, I said it was speculation and reasonable logic. Im sorry if those two things don't sit well with you
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:28:59 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact ďGnome HoldersĒ, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that ďhavnt arrived yetĒ according to your poster

We canít  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 09, 2017, 09:29:31 AM
Is this TAR at all?
(posting from the phone)
(https://i.imgur.com/vFlTHWV.jpg)
EDIT: Okay, checked team pictures, this is not TAR I guess... BTW, picture was taken near Bled Lake in Slovenia (beautiful place for filming TAR)

what if cam check equipment
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:31:39 AM
SO wait... youíre saying that a lot of the ďspoilersĒ we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Hereís the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we arenít taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because thereís a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldnít have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post ďfactsĒ make sure to back it up with photo evidence

I posted what the guy said because I asked him. you're a wee bit emotional about this eh? I never claimed it to be fact, I said it was speculation and reasonable logic. Im sorry if those two things don't sit well with you

THank you for admitting it. Thatís all that we were wanting here. When we get conflicting facts it makes it hard to correctly figure out the race
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 09, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
What about Marseille airport?

Greater distance but shorter travel time to and from it

David is Marseille Airport an International Airport? If so very plausible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:48:51 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact ďGnome HoldersĒ, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that ďhavnt arrived yetĒ according to your poster

We canít  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... personal comments removed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact ďGnome HoldersĒ, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that ďhavnt arrived yetĒ according to your poster

We canít  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

personal comments removed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:50:55 AM
SO wait... youíre saying that a lot of the ďspoilersĒ we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Hereís the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we arenít taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because thereís a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldnít have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post ďfactsĒ make sure to back it up with photo evidence

I posted what the guy said because I asked him. you're a wee bit emotional about this eh? I never claimed it to be fact, I said it was speculation and reasonable logic. Im sorry if those two things don't sit well with you

THank you for admitting it. Thatís all that we were wanting here. When we get conflicting facts it makes it hard to correctly figure out the race

you have no facts, and I never claimed fact though I at least have an eye witness account to support my reasoning... you're suggesting theres a mythical 9th blue gnome thing that we have no basis of knowing is in existence.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:52:38 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact ďGnome HoldersĒ, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that ďhavnt arrived yetĒ according to your poster

We canít  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

personal comments removed

at least let them be somewhat based on something...

For example, based on an eye witness account.... not a blurry image where you can't see anything other than a slightly bald head.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:55:37 AM
personal comments removed

RFF's Golden Rule:
Have RESPECT for each other, regardless of opinion. This of course includes no flaming/insulting other users and/or their posts.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
THey arenít even confirmed to be blue gnome things!! And 8 teams arenít confirmed!!

If they were, you would have posted this convo in the live sightings thread.

And if the 8 blue holders represented 8 teams as you say it did.. why were the other 4 gnomes already missing.. you told us that the teams pictures were the first teams he saw.

Can you see why this is making it hard to update the timeline if we are given conflicting info.


The half picture of the supposed Twin? He is wearing exactly the same thing as he was in the roadblock in Tangier. I wonít jump down the throats of people who provide solid evidence
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:59:42 AM
THey arenít even confirmed to be blue gnome things!! And 8 teams arenít confirmed!!

If they were, you would have posted this convo in the live sightings thread.

And if the 8 blue holders represented 8 teams as you say it did.. why were the other 4 gnomes already missing.. you told us that the teams pictures were the first teams he saw.

Can you see why this is making it hard to update the timeline if we are given conflicting info.


The half picture of the supposed Twin? He is wearing exactly the same thing as he was in the roadblock in Tangier. I wonít jump down the throats of people who provide solid evidence

you're claiming I said things that I obviously haven't. honestly not worth continuing to explain because I've said the same thing over and over and you just don't care to understand.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:01:11 AM
More from John Davison!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20John%20Davison.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 09, 2017, 10:02:44 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact ďGnome HoldersĒ, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that ďhavnt arrived yetĒ according to your poster

We canít  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

I actually made this speculation because I was trying to help out with the collective effort of trying to find all the teams. Not just one. I don't appreciate you calling my efforts laughable. You've made some pretty outrageous claims yourself. I was basing off a photo not a person who may have seen some teams
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:05:17 AM
THey arenít even confirmed to be blue gnome things!! And 8 teams arenít confirmed!!

If they were, you would have posted this convo in the live sightings thread.

And if the 8 blue holders represented 8 teams as you say it did.. why were the other 4 gnomes already missing.. you told us that the teams pictures were the first teams he saw.

Can you see why this is making it hard to update the timeline if we are given conflicting info.


The half picture of the supposed Twin? He is wearing exactly the same thing as he was in the roadblock in Tangier. I wonít jump down the throats of people who provide solid evidence

you're claiming I said things that I obviously haven't. honestly not worth continuing to explain because I've said the same thing over and over and you just don't care to understand.

Then show us the convo that you had with the eyewitness so we can clear everything up. It will help us seperate the fact from the speculation. Please.


Did you not say that the 8 blue things were gnome holders?

Did you not say that the eyewitness told you the teams were doing the gnome task after the fish task?

Did you not tell us that the eyewitness saw 8 teams only?

Did you not say that the teams pictured were the first 4 teams to get to the task?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:08:58 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact ďGnome HoldersĒ, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that ďhavnt arrived yetĒ according to your poster

We canít  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

I actually made this speculation because I was trying to help out with the collective effort of trying to find all the teams. Not just one. I don't appreciate you calling my efforts laughable. You've made some pretty outrageous claims yourself. I was basing off a photo not a person who may have seen some teams

I never said you were laughable. Iím trying to find out the race and not just the placements of the teams I favor. I want to know how it plays out entirely. Unless we have 100% accurate info we canít make correct assumptions.

We have all been assuming a couple of things as fact because you told us the eyewitness told you they were true.

1. The blue things were gnome holders and involved with the task
2. There were only 8 teams
3. The teams came to that task after the Fish task at the pier
4. The teams we saw in the picture got there first

If these are just speculations, then it doesnít mean they are true. We appreciate all speculation but when we are being told that an eye witness is making these claims then we find out they are just guesses/speculation it just makes everything more complicated.

Iím sorry if you feel like Iím victimizing you
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 09, 2017, 10:11:15 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact ďGnome HoldersĒ, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that ďhavnt arrived yetĒ according to your poster

We canít  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

I actually made this speculation because I was trying to help out with the collective effort of trying to find all the teams. Not just one. I don't appreciate you calling my efforts laughable. You've made some pretty outrageous claims yourself. I was basing off a photo not a person who may have seen some teams

I never said you were laughable. Iím trying to find out the race and not just the placements of the teams I favor. I want to know how it plays out entirely. Unless we have 100% accurate info we canít make correct assumptions.

We have all been assuming a couple of things as fact because you told us the eyewitness told you they were true.

1. The blue things were gnome holders and involved with the task
2. There were only 8 teams
3. The teams came to that task after the Fish task at the pier
4. The teams we saw in the picture got there first

If these are just speculations, then it doesnít mean they are true. We appreciate all speculation but when we are being told that an eye witness is making these claims then we find out they arenít true it just makes everything more complicated.

Iím sorry if you feel like Iím victimizing you

No no sorry not you. I was talking to the other use @dangambler who said that. I agree with everything you are saying.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:18:31 AM
Iím sorry if anyone feels like they are being personally victimized in this thread. As you can see, we take this very seriously as speculation helps us to figure out what is happening in the race. The only issue is when speculation is confused as being fact and then the rest of us have a hard time figuring out the truth with conflicting statements. Everyone is welcome here.

Photos and Eyewitness claims should be well documented before we claim anything is fact <3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 10:26:29 AM
Iím sorry if anyone feels like they are being personally victimized in this thread. As you can see, we take this very seriously as speculation helps us to figure out what is happening in the race. The only issue is when speculation is confused as being fact and then the rest of us have a hard time figuring out the truth with conflicting statements. Everyone is welcome here.

Photos and Eyewitness claims should be well documented before we claim anything is fact <3

Yes agreed! And it would be nice if we all focused on all of the times instead of just trying to piece together information for just one. It is confusing and setting us back more
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 10:27:19 AM
What about Marseille airport?

Greater distance but shorter travel time to and from it

David is Marseille Airport an International Airport? If so very plausible.

Yes!

On top of that, plenty of flights to CDG which could open possibilities further (as well as Frankfurt, Munich, London, Amsterdam, Rome, Milan, Barcelona and Madrid)

Most other flights were back to North Africa or additional cities in France, BUT there were a couple direct flights East (several to Istanbul, as well as one to Prague, Athens, and even Tel Aviv
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 10:46:13 AM
I'm more than happy with people starting their search by looking for Jody sightings- it helps us plot the course really well!

But, to help us get a more well-rounded view of what is happening throughout, let's not stop just with that.

Someone find Jody at an airport, or racing through a town/city?  Great!  Did that person see other teams too?  Could the teams be identified by some of our MANY AMAZING photos of the teams, if they did see others?  Could the person explain exactly what they saw/what the teams were doing/where they were going?

Coming to these eyewitnesses with clear and concise questions, and not bombarding them/overwhelming them can often yield wonderful results beyond just the initial sighting

Keep hunting for the teams (including Jody)!  Don't get discouraged!  Be open to working with others to deciphering the sometimes minimal leads/information we get!  And be okay with being wrong sometimes (I know I can be fairly often)!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
I'm more than happy with people starting their search by looking for Jody sightings- it helps us plot the course really well!

But, to help us get a more well-rounded view of what is happening throughout, let's not stop just with that.

Someone find Jody at an airport, or racing through a town/city?  Great!  Did that person see other teams too?  Could the teams be identified by some of our MANY AMAZING photos of the teams, if they did see others?  Could the person explain exactly what they saw/what the teams were doing/where they were going?

Coming to these eyewitnesses with clear and concise questions, and not bombarding them/overwhelming them can often yield wonderful results beyond just the initial sighting

Keep hunting for the teams (including Jody)!  Don't get discouraged!  Be open to working with others to deciphering the sometimes minimal leads/information we get!  And be okay with being wrong sometimes (I know I can be fairly often)!

Very well said! :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 10:55:11 AM
Regarding the photo attached to your post...
I have definitely seen this pic before, but perhaps only glanced at it, because those tiny stands look really unsafe for the huge Travelocity gnomes. ???
Like, I'd be surprised if production decided to actually store them there, where they can easily fall down, especially if a team accidentally pushed it while picking up. And those things can break easily I assume! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 11:01:57 AM
Regarding the photo attached to your post...
I have definitely seen this pic before, but perhaps only glanced at it, because those tiny stands look really unsafe for the huge Travelocity gnomes. ???
Like, I'd be surprised if production decided to actually store them there, where they can easily fall down, especially if a team accidentally pushed it while picking up. And those things can break easily I assume! :lol:

Right? Nowhere in the caption did the eyewitness say it was for the task. So unless we get proof of the eyewitness saying those blue things were for the gnomes, we can put that down as speculation. And then that would mean that there werenít 8of them specifically  for 8 teams and so on..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 09, 2017, 11:10:19 AM
I think those blue things on top of the roof have nothing to do with the task, they're more of home decorations. To me it looked like some random bird's eye view of houses in Tangier. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 11:13:36 AM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 11:17:48 AM
Teams are not seen with Gnomes at the Fish task. SO makes perfect sense that that task comes after. Right?

**back to detecting**
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 09, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
What a surprise, the Pro Freestyle Skiers resurface.  :conf: They're with the Indy 500 Racers. It is possible that the Goat Yoga Instructors are eliminated in either Belgium or Tangier.


As taken from the collage of this user:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaCSXkcBHkp/?taken-by=jassy___n_n
(c) jassy___n_n
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 12:58:50 PM
The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL ó Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) ó if Belgium WAS a NEL then thatís the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 09, 2017, 01:00:38 PM
I think its leg 3 (Morocco) and leg 4 ( France) now.

Leg 5 is next?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 01:08:45 PM
I think its leg 3 (Morocco) and leg 4 ( France) now.

Leg 5 is next?

Agreed!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Great detective skills!!! So they only teams not spotted in saint tropez and since morocco were

Debaters
Jody
Violinists
Eaters

Correct?

YAY FOR THE SKIERS!!  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:13:39 PM
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL ó Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) ó if Belgium WAS a NEL then thatís the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL ó Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) ó if Belgium WAS a NEL then thatís the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far

Lifeguard was in the pit stop picture with nba. And we believe the other was a twin
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:15:27 PM
Great detective skills!!! So they only teams not spotted in saint tropez and since morocco were

Debaters
Jody
Violinists
Eaters

Correct?

YAY FOR THE SKIERS!!  :hoot:

Yes thatís correct.. we assume #RingGirls were last to reach the pitstop Leg 1
We assume #YogaMoms were last to reach the pitstop Leg 2

If Belgium was a NEL though the Yoga Moms could still be racing but would be at risk of not making to to France Leg 4 with the 4 teams mentioned above
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
Great detective skills!!! So they only teams not spotted in saint tropez and since morocco were

Debaters
Jody
Violinists
Eaters

Correct?

YAY FOR THE SKIERS!!  :hoot:

Yes thatís correct.. we assume #RingGirls were last to reach the pitstop Leg 1
We assume #YogaMoms were last to reach the pitstop Leg 2

If Belgium was a NEL though the Yoga Moms could still be racing but would be at risk of not making to to France Leg 4 with the 4 teams mentioned above

Ok great thank you.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL — Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) — if Belgium WAS a NEL then that’s the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far
Actually we have  the twins.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:19:15 PM
Once we spot either Yoga Moms, Debaters, Jody, Eaters, Violinists .. we will have an easier time figuring out who was eliminated in Leg 3 or whether or not there has been a non-elimination leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:21:05 PM
SO happy to see this post!! :ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Are you  100% sure
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL ó Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) ó if Belgium WAS a NEL then thatís the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far

Lifeguard was in the pit stop picture with nba. And we believe the other was a twin
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:24:51 PM


Malvear, here is the twin
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 01:29:34 PM
So the picture was posted today, but can we find out if those were from today or yesterday?

AKA mid-leg 4 or start of leg 5?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:30:35 PM
I have asked...so we'll see!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:35:23 PM
Iím so confused
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:36:43 PM
What are you confused about? We can help explain :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:38:08 PM
Help me out guys?

There is no need to quote a post DIRECTLY above you...just use ^^

If you are quoting a string of posts but only need one of them, for gosh sakes edit out the others. Just be sure quote starts with [ quote] and ends with [ /quote].

WAY too much blue around here :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 01:38:45 PM
So much going on in St. Tropez over this last weekend:
Saint Tropez rounded off this extraordinary festival of international yachting.
http://www.segel.de/regatta/europa/voiles-de-st-tropez/voiles-de-st-tropez-08-10-2017/

Photo attached looks like anticipated greeting of some kind? But for who?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ_AtaUHBQU/?taken-by=junigraph

The photo of the girl bending over forward looks like she is demonstrating a game of #pťtanque as she has the form and it appears she is in a circle.  Competition?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ6n9U5nRkV/?taken-by=pim_mary
https://twitter.com/shinigamishinz0/status/917236739244281856

Just all speculation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:41:52 PM
It possible for some team not to be seen a couple of legs and be seen in later legs
Like seen on leg 3 and not seen until leg 7
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 01:46:05 PM
cool to see the skiers but it is still entirely possible only the yoga moms and ring girls have been eliminated and all the other teams made it in france if there was a Non elimination leg and Morrocco was only Leg 3..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:47:37 PM
It possible for some team not to be seen a couple of legs and be seen in later legs
Like seen on leg 3 and not seen until leg 7

Totally. Season 28 Burnie (final 4) not seen for SIX legs!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:48:50 PM
Ok  thanks  that makes be feel better
It possible for some team not to be seen a couple of legs and be seen in later legs
Like seen on leg 3 and not seen until leg 7

Totally. Season 28 Burnie (final 4) not seen for SIX legs!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 01:49:27 PM
The picture by jassy_n_n.  The guy with the hat is Cody
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 09, 2017, 01:50:38 PM
Now this is how you do it. Put your target in the frame, then pretend you're taking a selfie.(source (http://www.glamamor.com/2014/09/EchoParkLake-HistoricLosAngeles.html)) (I doubt if it was deliberate: there are plenty of tourists in Tropez, and the sandal shop probably isn't in the exclusion zone. Still...nice technique)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 01:52:00 PM
The picture by jassy_n_n.  The guy with the hat is Cody

I think thats indy... not Codys bag or hat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:52:31 PM
The picture by jassy_n_n.  The guy with the hat is Cody

That's not cody it's Alex Rossi from Indy and Conor is next to him
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:54:21 PM
Yes that is entirely possibly! As some teams do the Fast Forward tasks.. or get left behind or jump ahead due to transportation. Also, if all teams except for 1 or 2 decide to do a different detour that doesnít have an eye witness taking pictures, they wonít be seen. There are plenty of things that factor into it.

But since there is a team that hasnít been spot since the beginning of Leg 2 competing on Leg 4 or 5 in france , you have to use process of elimination.

There are 11 teams and 1 goes home each leg unless there is a non-elimination.

So since 9 teams have been spotted since Leg 3, it either means Yoga Moms and Ring Girls are out .. OR there was a NEL in Belgium keeping the Yoga Moms in the running.. OR there wasnít a NEL until Leg 3 Morocco meaning the 9 teams we spotted in Morocco/France should still be in the running.

If Leg 3 Morocco was an elimination leg though then Jody, Violinists, Debaters, Eaters (or YogaMoms if Belgium NEL) must be at risk as the other 5 teams were spotted in France me therefore made it through Morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 01:58:43 PM
There are 2 guys in the shot.  The in the grey cap is Cody and other guy with the black cap is Indy.  I have watched a lot of the BB19 and the live feeds and I am pretty sure that the guy in the forefront is Cody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
I think we are 99% sure already that it's alex Rossi. That's not codys backpack.. Indy has the orange piece on it. That's also Alex's hairline and hat with his race partner right next to him
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
So all we may know is yoga mom and ring girls got eliminated leg 1 and 2
And we are still unsure who got eliminated leg 3
Correct
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
I think we are 99% sure already that it's alex Rossi. That's not codys backpack.. Indy has the orange piece on it. That's also Alex's hairline and hat with his race partner right next to him

Sorry for Jody but I agree that is not Cody and the two guys both carry green backpacks are from the same team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 02:04:31 PM
Not seen doesn't mean eliminated. Look what just happened with the skiers so we don't technically know. I would say most likely ring girls are but yoga moms who knows
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 02:07:43 PM
The guy in the grey cap is Cody.  The backpack is the same one Cody has been carrying all along.   :conf:
Quoting from LIVE, because that is not the place for these posts.

That is definitely not Cody. Indy racers and skiers.
Refer to this screencap for the same hat Alex Rossi of team Indy was wearing earlier in the same leg.

(https://s1.postimg.org/7wv6pgbn6n/2017-10-09_20_05_41-_Alejandro_Peralta_on_Instagram_saint.png)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:10:15 PM
So all we may know is yoga mom and ring girls got eliminated leg 1 and 2
And we are still unsure who got eliminated leg 3
Correct

Since we saw all of the teams at the Amsterdam train station (except for Ring Girls) at the start of Leg 2 , we can assume they were out first and itís wasnít a NEL

Since we have seen every remaining team except for the Yoga Moms in Leg 3 (Morocco) and the Skiers survived til atleast Leg 4 France...

This would mean that the Yoga Moms were out Leg 2 Belgium unless it was  a NEL

Now we need to figure out who was eliminated Leg 3 Morocco if it was an elimination leg.. thereís a chance itís could be the Yoga moms but only if leg 2 was NEL.. otherwise, if there have been no NEL so far.. one of Jody, Debaters, Violinists or Eaters would have had to of gone home on Leg 3 (if it  was an elimination leg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 02:19:21 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 09, 2017, 02:24:08 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:25:04 PM
I agree itís weird seeing that but you have to take into account other things. Were there more tasks after the gnome task?

How close were those teams from finishing the gnome task?

What position were they in when those pictures were taken? (What teams were ahead and what teams were behind)

Was there a fast forward in play?

Was there a UTUrn in play?

Was it a NEL?

Once the leg ends and the teams head to their next destination , most of the time they get all bunched up again at some point and then it just depends on how well they complete the tasks given to them. Quite often , teams that almost went Home will go on to win the next leg or be at the front of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:26:16 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.

The red clue card is a specific task called a ďRoadblockĒ which only one team member may perform. Hence why Cody, Evan, other twin and other violinist arenít in the picture
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
That's a roadblock clue. :groan:

Also, there's no logic behind thinking that 4 teams who were together and one point in the race will stay in that group for the duration of the race. They will not.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
The facts are even though we saw a couple of the teams in france spotted we dont know what place they are in! Jody/Yale/Violenists could have easily gotten a earlier flight than this group we saw spotted! They do that sort of stuff all the time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 02:37:24 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
That's a roadblock clue. :groan:

Also, there's no logic behind thinking that 4 teams who were together and one point in the race will stay in that group for the duration of the race. They will not.

If they were the first 3 teams to finish the Morrocco leg than they would be the first 3 teams to at least start the challenge in France.

Nobody said they were bunched together but if they were ahead of the other teams in France than that might be why we haven't seen pictures of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 02:41:38 PM
No, u can't automatically assume first 3 teams to finish one leg will be first 3 teams to start the tasks on the next leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:41:50 PM
Just because a team finishes a challenge first on one leg.. doesnít mean they will get to the challenge first on the next leg..

Transportation and other factors..

We donít even know that those 3 teams finished the gnome task .. for all we know they are still there trying to figure it out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 02:45:39 PM
Nobody is assuming anything.. This is all merely speculation which I believe is in the subject title for this thread..

I know the first three teams to finish a leg don't always start first but it doesn't have to be always for a theory to be correct it just had to happen this time and sometimes it does..

As someone else mentioned perhaps they got an earlier flight.. Perhaps they got a later flight and are behind all the other teams.. Who knows.

I was just throwing out a plausable idea.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 09, 2017, 02:46:10 PM

Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 02:48:38 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
That's a roadblock clue. :groan:

Also, there's no logic behind thinking that 4 teams who were together and one point in the race will stay in that group for the duration of the race. They will not.
My money is on the yale jody and violenist they seem very strong and I wouldnt be surprised if they have an alliance helping eachother.  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 02:53:47 PM

Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.

If this is your first season, it's understandable if you don't know the mechanics of the game yet :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 02:56:03 PM
Nobody is assuming anything.. This is all merely speculation which I believe is in the subject title for this thread..

I know the first three teams to finish a leg don't always start first but it doesn't have to be always for a theory to be correct it just had to happen this time and sometimes it does..

As someone else mentioned perhaps they got an earlier flight.. Perhaps they got a later flight and are behind all the other teams.. Who knows.

I was just throwing out a plausable idea.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean...If I'm typing quickly, I'm going to get right to the point. Speculation  begins with an assumption, and that can be dangerous! Sure teams can reach the first task on the next leg IF things go perfect. And I think - particularly in this case, travel between Tangier & Saint-Tropez was messy.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 02:58:28 PM
Nobody is assuming anything.. This is all merely speculation which I believe is in the subject title for this thread..

I know the first three teams to finish a leg don't always start first but it doesn't have to be always for a theory to be correct it just had to happen this time and sometimes it does..

As someone else mentioned perhaps they got an earlier flight.. Perhaps they got a later flight and are behind all the other teams.. Who knows.

I was just throwing out a plausable idea.

Careful... not all speculation is welcomed in the speculation thread... no matter the logic. Jody, Violinists, and Debaters have consistently been in the front pack, so your theory holds a lot of strong logic behind it. Doesnít mean itís fact, just means itís strongly possible and makes sense
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 03:01:19 PM
Jody, Violinists, and Debaters have consistently been in the front pack

? Proof please?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:04:28 PM



Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.

You and every other TAR newbie are VERY welcome here.

We were all newbies once, myself included. I could not begin to post a link or a picture and the whole team helped me. If they had not taught me research and other  detective skills I would not be here today. I will always be grateful to them all.

ALL eyes are welcome. Questions are fine!! That's how we learn. :ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 03:05:24 PM
Any speculation on what couple appears in the background of photo of Shawn at airport? this is at the Charles de Gaulle Airport and it appears they are departingólike Shawn Marionóis this before or after St. Tropez? My close up would not attach.
Iím new at this so any tutorial would help.
Lots of time but no experience.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 03:08:48 PM

Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.

Donít ever feel like you arenít welcome here. Iíll be happy to explain some of the clues you might see in the race :)

When teams get their clues at the beginning of the leg, or for completing certain tasks, they will be given yellow clue envelopes that say ďAmazing RaceĒ on them.

There are a number of different clues that can be inside.

ďRoute InfoĒ is a blue colored clue. These are usually the clues that help the teams find their next destination. ďFly to Reykjavic Iceland and go to _____ and look for _____Ē . Once they get to the location, sometimes they have to complete a task or find someone  before getting their next clue. Other times, the clues will be in a box waiting for them to grab.

Jessica with a ďRoute InfoĒ clue
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/30-Leg%201%20Iceland/Jesscahc4%20BB.jpg)

ďDetourĒ is a yellow colored clue. This is a choice between 2 tasks each with their own pros and cons. So each team chooses one of the 2 tasks to complete. (If there is a UTUrn on the leg and a team has been UTUrned, they will have to complete BOTH detour tasks). An example for this would be something like ďJump or HikeĒ where the Jump Task is scarier but can take less time to finish. The hike task is something not as scary but could take longer (bungee jumping vs. Hiking down a cliff)

ďRoadblockĒ is a red colored clue. This is a task that only one team member may perform. They get a brief hint/clue about what the task will be and then have to decide which teammate will complete the task before opening the rest of the clue and finding out what they have to do. This one is entertaining because sometimes teams will think it is going To be one thing and ends up being the opposite . (Example, a team member afraid of heights might be tricked into doing the task thinking it has nothing to do with heights when in actual fact it ends up being something that does have to do with heights)

Violinist with a ďRoad BlockĒ clue
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20%20John%20Davison.jpg)

ďFast ForwardĒ is a green colored clue. This is an OPTIONAL task that is not required that each team has the opportunity of completing only once during the race. It will show up in some of the clue envelopes. Once you complete a fast forward task, that team can go directly to the pitstop for that leg without completing any of the other tasks. Once a team completes the fast forward, they canít use it again so they must do it wisely when they really need it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seamonkey on October 09, 2017, 03:09:48 PM
In NY, did Phil mention the Express Pass?  Do we know if that is in play this season?

That could be a possible factor..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
Any speculation on what couple appears in the background of photo of Shawn at airport? this is at the Charles de Gaulle Airport and it appears they are departing—like Shawn Marion—is this before or after St. Tropez? My close up would not attach.
I’m new at this so any tutorial would help.
Lots of time but no experience.

Welcome!! This pic?

Facebook post of Shawn Marion in the Paris Airport yesterday. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1705989989413848&set=a.1200659149946937.1073741828.100000085898685&type=3&theater

The guy in the back is not a racer...may be production though...

Check out our support thread. We do have some instructions there on how to attach a picture...bottom line is it cant be too big.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:16:36 PM
In NY, did Phil mention the Express Pass?  Do we know if that is in play this season?

That could be a possible factor..

Not that I heard. He also did not say ____ # countries, ___miles which surprised me. But he was not on a mic and had a very hoarse voice, so possible I missed it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 03:18:49 PM
Look to the left, there is a reflection of a couple, both with hats & backpacksó they appear to be in the terminal. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 03:24:42 PM
It looks like the source of that picture posted in Facebook comments (he was asked about if he saw Jody there) and said that the Basketballers were the only team he saw
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 03:33:28 PM
They look like twins to me, but tbh it's really hard to tell from that photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 03:45:45 PM
I don't think it's a team at all.. The guy who took the picture said he only saw NBA
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:53:11 PM
I think you are on to something!!

I'll have to go check start line backpacks...but yes, I def think this looks like a possible team.

EMT's ? ???


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Saint%20Tropez/CDG%20possible%20team.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 03:57:53 PM
I don't think it's a team at all.. The guy who took the picture said he only saw NBA
Then either it's not a team, or the author of the picture didn't realize they were there :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
I zoomed in on the picture and lightened it up. Looks like the twins to me
(http://i67.[banned image hosting site].com/2j1lw1c.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 04:07:09 PM
I think so too. Here are their backbacks from the start: Do I get a hint of green stripe in the pic? ???

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Saint%20Tropez/EMTs%20backpacks.jpg)


I don't think it's a team at all.. The guy who took the picture said he only saw NBA
Then either it's not a team, or the author of the picture didn't realize they were there :tup:

They are on the other side of security I think... he wouldn't have noticed probably.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:08:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=177552356152990&set=pcb.177552412819651

that's #Eaters in the background of first photo

Eaters spotted in Saint Tropez..

Which means Jody, Violinists and Debaters (possibly Yoga Moms if Leg 2 was NEL) are at risk for elimination!

Hoping that Leg 3 was a NEL :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
Yay!!!! #Eaters sighting!  :bunny
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 04:18:01 PM
You newbies are on a ROLL!!

Congrats to ShelbysHat and TravelThe World for TWO awesome finds!!


:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 04:31:20 PM
wow that is a good find.. it does sound like phil was going to say they had a speedbump before it got cut off..

which would mean there was a non elim leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 09, 2017, 04:31:39 PM
Wow, great find.

Therefore, the Ring Girls and Goat Yoga must be the first 2 gone because everyone else was spotted in Morocco and France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
From that video it sounds like Phil says "let's not forget you had the speed bump" which would make Morocco a NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 04:38:37 PM
I am new here, so my apologies if I'm not posting this in the right spot. I found a video on instagram from the Pit Stop in Saint Tropez yesterday that goes along with the pictures of the basketballers standing on the mat. The video has audio and right at the end Phil makes a comment to them about having a Speed Bump, so I'm thinking there must have been a non-elimination leg in Morocco.

Here is the link (credit to @josyandgeorges on instagram):

https://instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

WOW! this may be the best kind of find! Thank you, this confirms that there was a NEL and the basketballers came last in the leg prior.  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
This is awesome!!

So based on our finds..

Leg 1 - ring girls
Leg 2 - yoga moms
Leg 3 - basketball (NEL and speedbump for Leg 4)
Leg 4 - ??? Saint Tropez , France

There couldn't have been an extra leg between Belgium and Morocco because we wouldn't have enough teams (everyone was spotted)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 09, 2017, 04:43:06 PM
Always knew that NBA guys, not Jody, will be saved by NEL.
On a more serious note, great video, but it's infuriating that person used two separate hashtags #amazing #race instead of one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 04:43:27 PM
remember the basketball players were spotted near jody in morroco near the fish? (without gnomes) then another sighting was of jody yale and violineist and twins with the gnomes? the basketball players must have gotten stuck on a mission between the fishing area and the gnomes making them in last in that leg.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 04:44:08 PM
This is awesome!!

So based on our finds..

Leg 1 - ring girls
Leg 2 - yoga moms
Leg 3 - basketball (NEL and speedbump for Leg 4)
Leg 4 - ??? Saint Tropez , France

There couldn't have been an extra leg between Belgium and Morocco because we wouldn't have enough teams (everyone was spotted)

not only that but from the video I think it is also safe to assume the basketball players survived the speed bump and didn't get last in France..

Phil says "And you made it work" makes me think they weren't the last team in France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:45:56 PM
Yes and Basketball is at the mat with Lifeguards so they are most likely safe too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 09, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
I am new here, so my apologies if I'm not posting this in the right spot. I found a video on instagram from the Pit Stop in Saint Tropez yesterday that goes along with the pictures of the basketballers standing on the mat. The video has audio and right at the end Phil makes a comment to them about having a Speed Bump, so I'm thinking there must have been a non-elimination leg in Morocco.

Here is the link (credit to @josyandgeorges on instagram):

https://instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

Does the person who posted the video not know what order they arrived at the pit stop? It seems like they would hear Phil say.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 04:48:47 PM
Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 04:49:57 PM
Maybe  lifeguard could have came in last

Yes and Basketball is at the mat with Lifeguards so they are most likely safe too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 04:50:58 PM
Phil: "Considering. Considering your size, and the fact that ____you somehow managed to made it work in the end. And let's not forget the Speedb___"

Does he say something about a fall?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:51:34 PM
Its possible . Production would have had them wait to reach the pitstop if they were last though so that they could have a 1 on 1 with Phil
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 04:54:41 PM
Yep, close races for last place happen a lot. Them being together doesn't mean anything :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:56:01 PM
OH ok sorry!

Would have helped us on this leg if we saw hem pick up the mat right after :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 04:57:44 PM
If they had to do a speedbump and were last the previous race they could have finished near the bottom of the pack again unless they pulled a cowboys..

who knows the lifegaurds could have been last, but it is good to know there was a NEL...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 04:59:29 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 04:59:38 PM
Is that camera man hat or a camo hat

Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:

Nope.. but if France is leg 4 that would mean all 3 of them made it there .. Maybe they were ahead of the basketball players/lifeguards like i earlier speculated.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 05:02:41 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:

Not spotted in france yet. However, because there was a non elimination leg (basketball came last Leg 3). If Saint TropeZ is  Leg 4 they would have to still be in it up until the pitstop there atleast
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 05:03:59 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:

Nope.. but if France is leg 4 that would mean all 3 of them made it there .. Maybe they were ahead of the basketball players/lifeguards like i earlier speculated.
thats what I am thinking, I sincerely hope Jody made a pact with them. The Yale group seems very smart.  :bunny
Plus the user above made a good point about the basketballers and the yellow team might be at the bottom especially since they had a speedbump in the french leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
Too tall to be Cody, maybe? He barely reaches Shawn's shoulder and that hat is back a bit.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 05:06:16 PM
Is that camera man hat or a camo hat

Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)
No, that's not Cody too tall. Cody is only 5'7
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 05:08:55 PM
Heh, I remember seeing that white-haired cameraman pictured in past seasons. He looks like a rather happy guy when you see his face :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 05:09:25 PM
I hope so, those 3 teams seem like the strongest in the race. I did like the idea of the 3 of them working together to get further in the game. Alliances has never really appeared in the show, but would be a great angle for the show. I know last season there were several legs that teams worked together to finish the detours. For example to eliminate Vanck and Ashton.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 05:14:45 PM
Maybe violin guys jody and debaters are ahead that why we have not seen them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 05:16:39 PM
It looks like a bridge behind them in that photo

With the opening looking like the hat everyone is trying to speculate about

I think itís just basketball and lifeguards at the mat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 05:18:43 PM
Maybe violin guys jody and debaters are ahead that why we have not seen them

That's what I was saying.. The basketball players having to do a speedbump makes that theory more likely as they probably wouldn't be one of the first teams to make it at the France pit stop with having to do an extra task..

not impossible but not likely.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 09, 2017, 05:19:21 PM
That would be pretty smart of them to form an alliance, I don't think i've ever seen a 3 team alliance before on AR. They have the smarts and strengths :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: HavaDrPepper on October 09, 2017, 05:23:19 PM
Is that camera man hat or a camo hat

Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)

I think it is something on the camera the guy with grey hair is holding.  It seems to move when he moves.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 05:25:13 PM
Sounds like Phil said:

ďWell considering your size, and the fact you were able to get them down into the boat, and somehow managed to make it work in the end- and letís not forget you had a speed-ď

Likely ended with bump, but not official

Iím sure Peach has already asked if the eyewitness could divulge what place they came in, or if Phil did mention the speed bump or something else

Letís just wait before we jump to too many conclusions
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: lulachristine on October 09, 2017, 05:27:54 PM
Regarding the lady that took a picture with the bball team on the mat: would production have allowed that while the leg was still going on? Also how long do teams hang around the pit stop after they finish?

Not new to TAR but new to this side of things. :)
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 05:30:50 PM
Regarding the lady that took a picture with the bball team on the mat: would production have allowed that while the leg was still going on? Also how long do teams hang around the pit stop after they finish?

Not new to TAR but new to this side of things. :)

In the old days no way. But since the well known youtubers etc  season, yes, they have been allowing selfies.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 05:49:59 PM
After seeing the video above, I would speculate that they made it to the mat last and the Lifeguard? team waiting next to them is last & awaiting their turn? The reference to the speedbump is noted as in despite all this you made it.  Or are they both on the mat at the same time? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 05:51:15 PM
"Considering you made it work at the end" translates to me as they completed the speed bump and made it to the mat in time or caught up with the pack. I think nba and lifeguards are safe at this point.
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Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 05:52:08 PM
And if that's the case which I think it is kudos  to NBA for rocking through a speed bump!
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Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 09, 2017, 05:54:37 PM
I'm thinking the lifeguards are safe as well. Phil wouldn't be patting another team on the back so much that is safe while the eliminated team stands there. Doesn't really happen like that
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Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 05:56:04 PM
I also see people reporting on twitter that Jody made it to leg 5? Where is that information? Didn't see them in France at all
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Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 05:57:33 PM
"Considering you made it work at the end" translates to me as they completed the speed bump and made it to the mat in time or caught up with the pack. I think nba and lifeguards are safe at this point.

I think it is safe to say the NBA players are safe I wouldn't rule out the Lifeguards being eliminated just yet though..

Phil is always nice so him saying "somehow you made it work and lets not forget you had a speed" might just be him making excuses for them almost getting last again..

somehow made it work could = barely managed to scrape by.

It's impossible to say really, if only the video was 10 seconds longer.
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Post by: chill_sd on October 09, 2017, 05:58:30 PM
The camo hat appears to be in this photo also. http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207545.html#msg1207545
but it looks like someone in the crowd, and not a racer.
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Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:00:09 PM
Yea you're right that's not cody that's a Grey camo hat. He wouldn't be standing in back of two teams on the mat too
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Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 06:00:50 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5

I know I read on twitter that they made it to leg 5. I was like huh where???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
Just because we have not seen them france Doesn't mean they don't  make it to leg 5
I also see people reporting on twitter that Jody made it to leg 5? Where is that information? Didn't see them in France at all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 06:06:01 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5

I know I read on twitter that they made it to leg 5. I was like huh where???

I think it is just people assuming things with no evidence now that they found out the basketball players had a speedbump and there was a previous Non elimination leg. 

I mean yes that would likely mean Jody made it to France but it doesn't necessarly mean they completed France same could be said for Violinists and Debaters who we have not seen..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:07:39 PM
Yes agreed ^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 06:08:25 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
Iím pretty sure Phil was commenting on the difficulty they had with the specific task- maybe loading something onto a boat and/or traveling on that boat somewhere? At very least it sounds like something where their height/weight would be at a disadvantage

I think Philís comments are more directed at the task than the leg as a whole, then he added the speed bump comment on top of that

I donít even know if it confirms them actually having difficulty with the task in question, let alone the entire leg

For all we know, they could have crushed the task despite their size disadvantage, and Phil was amazed by that fear enough to comment on it
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:10:57 PM
We re not sure if this is leg 4 or 5, I think 4 but we don't know 100%.

But look at it this way.

If the NBA team had a speedbump, they were LAST in the last leg.

So if Jody was not last in the last leg, then they were in France.

Happy news for the fans!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:11:07 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage

Teams are never bunched together for the majority of he race. Even for a few legs. We saw them for a 5 second photo
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:13:48 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage

!) Unlikely teams would be together over two legs. Doesn't happen.

2) NBA could have been first.  The guys in TARCanada went to first despite a speedbump, it happens.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 06:14:18 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5

I know I read on twitter that they made it to leg 5. I was like huh where???

I think it is just people assuming things with no evidence now that they found out the basketball players had a speedbump and there was a previous Non elimination leg. 

I mean yes that would likely mean Jody made it to France but it doesn't necessarly mean they completed France same could be said for Violinists and Debaters who we have not seen..
It could go for any of the teams really. Just because we see them checking into the pit stop doesn't mean they are safe. Only team we know for sure that made it to leg 5 is NBA rest is just speculation. For all we know  NBA,lifeguards, twins could have been the last three teams and it was a foot run to the pit stop jmo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
For all we know , Leg 5 hasnít started yet.

Someone gets eliminated in Leg 4 (Saint Tropez)

Basketball seems to be the only one we can say is safe and through to Leg 5 for now.

Jody
Indy500
Debaters
Violinists
Twins
Lifeguards
Skiers
Eaters

Have all made it to Leg 4 in Saint Tropez but we donít know who got eliminated yet.

(Unless there was a leg between Morocco and Saint Tropez.. then that messes it up)
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Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 06:16:50 PM
I agree^^^^
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Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 06:18:31 PM
The photo of the Eaters- is it safe to assume they were in proximity of the pit stop, since all other photos from that post were at that location?

If so, why were they standing off to the side from it (almost like lurking in the shadows)?

Did they already check in, and are kinda just hanging out nearby (seems like Basketball hung around the pit stop after they finished)?  Are they waiting out a penalty? Waiting to check in?

It doesnít seem like theyíre racing at that point, in their photo
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: justmjlayson on October 09, 2017, 06:21:17 PM
Looks like Kristi and Jen  in the photo made it to St. Tropez too. I bet it's them. if you look at the shirt's color Kristi used,  it's the same from the starting line.
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
 I think the one thing that looks relatively much more likely now is that The Yoga Ladies probably went out in Leg 2.


:torche :torche :torche






Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:25:59 PM
Regarding the lady that took a picture with the bball team on the mat: would production have allowed that while the leg was still going on? Also how long do teams hang around the pit stop after they finish?

Not new to TAR but new to this side of things. :)

They don't hang around at all generally. They are rapidly whisked away to do their post leg interviews...and then to food and wherever they are staying.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 06:30:41 PM
Peach, why do you still question that this might have been leg 5 rather than 4?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 06:31:44 PM
Those are the Lifeguards next to the NBA players on the mat.  (if you match the backpack to her)
But Skiers did make it to St Tropez according to the earlier photo they were with the Indy drivers.
So Yes you are right kinda.
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Post by: Slowhatch on October 09, 2017, 06:33:00 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

My French is rusty (non-existent, actually), but I take it the greeter is named Sasha?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:38:22 PM
Peach, why do you still question that this might have been leg 5 rather than 4?

Since there was a NEL, it is less likely for sure.

But I have to see the exact times to be sure.

Like I said, I think France was Leg 4. But haven't had time to sit and count out the hours...will wait on oval. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 06:41:01 PM
Seems a little too tight for another leg. And now that we know there was a Speed Bump that pretty much nulls the idea of a Keep Racing this early on.
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Post by: justmjlayson on October 09, 2017, 06:51:56 PM
If St. Tropez is Leg 4, then I think this is elimination. so my suggestion is:

Reykjavik is definitely an elimination leg, since Kayla and Dessie have not seen after Leg 1.

Antwerp could be elimination too. so that's why Yoga moms not seen after sightings in Leg 4.

Tangier might have been non-elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:53:55 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

My French is rusty (non-existent, actually), but I take it the greeter is named Sasha?

Yes she is a Model with that company.

here is her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/sasha/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 06:55:42 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage

Teams are never bunched together for the majority of he race. Even for a few legs. We saw them for a 5 second photo

I think bunched together or grouped together is the wrong word here..  Those three teams were seen close together toward the later stages of the last leg of the race in Morroco and we have seen nothing of them in France so it makes sense for people to speculate espically after finding out that Morocco was a non elimination leg where the basketball players got last.

I doubt they are grouped together still but if they were the first 3 teams to get to France and do the tasks and get to the pit stop before people with their cameras started catching on and snapping photos to their instagram than that could be why we haven't seen them.

Or maybe they were the last 3 teams, or maybe it is unrelated and we haven't seen them because there are just no photos of them that people took.

The basketball players are the most likely to be recognized in France so it makes sense we have seen the most of them.

Hopefully the next leg of the race we will get some more photos of all the teams still left in the game, but as for now all we have is speculation based off the info we are given.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:05:51 PM
just catching up but sounds like I was right about the group in the picture in Tangier of Jody. debaters, twins and violinists being the first group was correct and the other teams were behind. Id guess Jody and other teams got an earlier flight to France and probably why we haven't seen them...

if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 07:10:11 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:14:22 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: justmjlayson on October 09, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
the route destination of TARUS30 looks more like a combination of S6 and S12 because of the continents they've visited. I think that Tangier is only one leg. if there's an extra task, they could've worked it between Tangier and St. Tropez just like Zimbabwe and France in S26. The other African leg must be somewhere after going to Europe twice.

If not, with Morocco to be 2 legs,  like Burkina Faso in S12.  my speculation is that there's a slight chance that after France there's gonna be a new country right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 07:26:41 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.

I think the issue you’re running into bud, is the fact you’re wording things as if they are concrete fact

That’s already kinda backfired with the amount of teams in Tangier

We do not know WHEN teams were released for Leg 4, so we don’t know if they got bunched at any airport or even with an HoO when arriving in St. Tropez

It seems that the basketballers were seen at CDG with the medics, so that puts them at least on par with one of the ‘earlier’ teams from that photo in Tangier

We also don’t know how well/poor they or really anyone did at any of the tasks- just that they arrived at roughly the same time as the lifeguards
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 07:29:01 PM
Dan, what you're saying is not out of the realm of possibility, but it does in no way confirm amything.

All of the teams could have been on the same flight to France for all we know.
Some teams might have been delayed if on a different flight.
There is no way to tell what really happened.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 07:35:49 PM
Yep it is all speculation there is no way to know..

However, The basketball players being last in Morocco and having to do a speed bump here in France means the odds of them being in the second half of the pack are higher than them being towards the top .

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Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 07:36:31 PM
I agree ^^^^^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 09, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
Here's what we can agree on (based on given info right now):

Ring Girls were knocked out of the race in Leg 1.

Yoga moms didn't stretch out their potential and were most likely eliminated in Leg 2.

NBA hit a non-elimination in Leg 3 (Morocco).

Leg 4 (France) most likely had nine teams racing. 3 ( Debaters, Jody, Violinists) weren't sighted but they should be racing in this leg due to being sighted in Morocco and the leg 3 was a non-elim. Twins, Lifeguards, Eaters and NBA were spotted at the pitstop for this leg. Indy 500 and Skiers were spotted during this leg but not spotted at the pitstop.

Don't overthink guys!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:13:47 PM
Yep it is all speculation there is no way to know..

However, The basketball players being last in Morocco and having to do a speed bump here in France means the odds of them being in the second half of the pack are higher than them being towards the top .

exactly, and I've never claimed anything is fact, rather logical based on what we know
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
where did I say anything is a fact? Ive always said its speculation based on logic and some evidence we do have. Again the NBA team being last in tangier goes to show that the group of 4 in tangier was very likely the first teams to finish that pit stop
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:17:29 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.

People have come in first place after a speed bump. That really doesn't mean anything. And if could've been where they all had to take a time slot and could only be 5-10 minutes apart. There are so many different scenarios. Would not assume anyone was front or back of the pack
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:21:00 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.

People have come in first place after a speed bump. That really doesn't mean anything. And if could've been where they all picked a time and were only 10 minutes apart. There are so many different scenarios. Would not assume anyone was front or back of the pack

you can assume what you like, id rather make educated guesses based on the relevant info we have. to each their own

So yours is only an educated guess? Mine is based off of what happened in previous seasons. Therefore also a educated guess based on relevant information
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:27:25 PM
If you guys want some amazing race trivia. 25 teams have survived elimination after a speed bump and only 17 were eliminated. The odds are in our favor! Go nba!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:29:50 PM
Here's what we can agree on (based on given info right now):

Ring Girls were knocked out of the race in Leg 1.

Yoga moms didn't stretch out their potential and were most likely eliminated in Leg 2.

NBA hit a non-elimination in Leg 3 (Morocco).

Leg 4 (France) most likely had nine teams racing. 3 ( Debaters, Jody, Violinists) weren't sighted but they should be racing in this leg due to being sighted in Morocco and the leg 3 was a non-elim. Twins, Lifeguards, Eaters and NBA were spotted at the pitstop for this leg. Indy 500 and Skiers were spotted during this leg but not spotted at the pitstop.

Don't overthink guys!

^^^ THIS ^^^
Let's all calm down and wait to see what happens on the next leg. Patience!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 08:45:24 PM
If you guys want some amazing race trivia. 25 teams have survived elimination after a speed bump and only 17 were eliminated. The odds are in our favor! Go nba!

the NBA team would be out of the race in 9th place losing to professional eaters,  two female skiers and 90 pound jessica had they not been saved by production with a non elimination leg so not really sure that is rooting on.  They just got lucky the Yoga moms and Ring girls didn't.

However,  it does look like they rebounded and were at least able to survive the speedbump and stay out of last place in France.. What place they got remains to be seen.

I do know twice in history a team has gone from last to first but never with this many teams left. 

I also did some research and trivia..  and only 11 times has a team in last gone onto the next leg with a speedbump and jumped more than 3 places.  41 times they have not.

Which means there is like an 80% chance based off history that the basketball players were more towards the mid/bottom of the pack.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
Well, anyway, the next leg should most likely take place tomorrow. See what kind of sightings come out of it and hopefully they help provide us more insight.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 09:46:06 PM
Yep it is all speculation there is no way to know..

However, The basketball players being last in Morocco and having to do a speed bump here in France means the odds of them being in the second half of the pack are higher than them being towards the top .

exactly, and I've never claimed anything is fact, rather logical based on what we know

Okay, we are done with this discussion. We don't know, YOU don't know, So let's find another avenue to discuss.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 10, 2017, 10:02:54 AM
Please end this discussion right here. Period. It is not suitable for this topic.

Otherwise I SPECULATE that there will be a rapid deletion of some posts...

NEL are preplanned. Not for who comes last, but for which Leg of the race it is.

The Speedbump would already need to be planned in advance for the next leg. I doubt they would spend all that extra money to have a Speedbump set up for each leg of the race just so that they can decide when they are actually going to need to use it so that they can save their favorite team.

NEL are preplanned. Not for who comes last, but for which Leg of the race it is.

The Speedbump would already need to be planned in advance for the next leg. I doubt they would spend all that extra money to have a Speedbump set up for each leg of the race just so that they can decide when they are actually going to need to use it so that they can save their favorite team.

I don't believe that sorry and haven't since season 16 where Jeff/Jordan and the Cowboys both got NEL..

or when they saved brendon and rachel from going home 4th on allstars..

Too sketchy for me but again this is for a different thread.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Y'all can discuss PAST seasons in those Discussion threads.

Wishlists and "Unsupported" Speculation also has a thread.

This thread is SOLELY for DISCUSSION of TAR 30 SPOILERS.

We have a wishlist thread for routes and locations.

Housecleaning.

 :chores
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 10, 2017, 12:57:38 PM
This thread is specifically for working out what we see from sightings. When the convo veers off topic, it makes it difficult for us investigators to do things.  :spy: She's just asking for us to use the appropriate thread. Don't take it personally, it happens every season! And she is going to give me heck now for replying to u in this thread.  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 10, 2017, 01:35:43 PM
off topic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 10, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
So umm... Not a spoiler, but something that caught my eye and seems really interesting..

https://s1.postimg.org/1dbtbbkblr/insta.png

The instagram search for #amazingrace is no longer showing (recent) results. I wonder if someone from production is actually reporting such photos..? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 02:00:42 PM
So umm... Not a spoiler, but something that caught my eye and seems really interesting..

https://s1.postimg.org/1dbtbbkblr/insta.png

The instagram search for #amazingrace is no longer showing (recent) results. I wonder if someone from production is actually reporting such photos..? ???
Think it may just be an issue with insta because I saw some similar comments on twitter about insta hashtags
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 10, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
Scotland maybe?
{♡Savannah Dare♡} 🗼‏
@Dare19Dare

That moment when you realized you were just filmed on the amazing race😎
She's from Scotland
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 02:17:32 PM
SOME JODy fans found this on twitter... possibly Scotland?

https://twitter.com/dare19dare/status/917829715087581186
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 10, 2017, 02:18:39 PM
So umm... Not a spoiler, but something that caught my eye and seems really interesting..

https://s1.postimg.org/1dbtbbkblr/insta.png

The instagram search for #amazingrace is no longer showing (recent) results. I wonder if someone from production is actually reporting such photos..? ???
Think it may just be an issue with insta because I saw some similar comments on twitter about insta hashtags
I'm brand new here and I'm SURE I'm doing this wrong, but just wanted to add that I'm having the same issue with Instagram.  I get the same error on all hashtags, not just TAR tags.  I did report it to them.  Hopefully they are aware and working the issue.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 10, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
OK, thanks Hummingbird! And Welcome to RFF! :waves:
I don't use instagram, just went on to check for sightings, but I'm glad this is not just a TAR-related issue.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 02:24:08 PM
Mine instagram works perfectly, even with #amazingrace (but there's nothing new)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 10, 2017, 02:28:45 PM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 10, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
That looks like Reykjavik airport.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 02:31:44 PM
@Plaidmoon
Sorry, I realized later that I was looking at the pictures first, and then made a comment... I saw her post later actually, so I edited earlier post. My bad.

But anyway, I don't think they would make such a route, so I would be really surprised if they're actually in Scotland.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 10, 2017, 02:34:14 PM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
Quote
I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
Scotland seems unlikely?? That would be a very odd route.

Phil was there in May though, I think for one of his NZ/Nat Geo shows.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiT-nbAaQD/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 02:37:32 PM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
Quote
I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.

Yah kinda weird, could be a troll? Or maybe she moved to Scotland? On vacation? Who knows... I searched snap in a few coastal cities in Scotland and didnít see anything...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 02:49:48 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 10, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
She's from Iowa
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 02:59:57 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
She's from Iowa

Let's try to document comments: SHOW us how you know, don't just tell us. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 03:02:25 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
She's from Iowa

Let's try to document comments: SHOW us how you know, don't just tell us. :tup:

https://www.instagram.com/savannahdare1/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 10, 2017, 03:03:10 PM
^^ sorry didn't want to post her personal sm all over the board. But, it's listed on her Facebook page
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:03:29 PM


https://www.instagram.com/savannahdare1/

private.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 03:04:55 PM


https://www.instagram.com/savannahdare1/

private.

That's just what I wrote. But you asked for a source.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 10, 2017, 03:08:05 PM
Dozens of people inundating her twitter feed with demands about Jody probably isn't helping much.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 10, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
Dozens of people inundating her twitter feed with demands about Jody probably isn't helping much.  :groan:

I was going to say the same. Especially if the person isn't on SM much. Sigh. I appreciate the enthusiasm but they all know each other!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:19:09 PM
I don't think Scotland is us...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 10, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
Arles Ampitheatre, Arles is a town in the south of France. Our first two leg country?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gigaweek on October 10, 2017, 03:42:48 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaFKg4VnNa_/?taken-by=jonfeinstein
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 03:43:21 PM
Arles is pretty close to St Tropez.  Probable bus, train or self-drive(!).  Could explain lack of sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 10, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
Possible bus routes
https://www.rome2rio.com/s/Saint-Tropez/Arles
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:51:04 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaFKg4VnNa_/?taken-by=jonfeinstein

Thanks and :welcome: to RFF!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1208157.html#msg1208157
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:52:16 PM
Arles is pretty close to St Tropez.  Probable bus, train or self-drive(!).  Could explain lack of sightings.

Phil is probably well ahead of the teams. Possibility also that they have not been released yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 10, 2017, 03:52:28 PM
I would bet self drive.  It's a great way to scramble the teams and it's super common and convenient to drive in that area.  The trains take you out of the way unnecessarily.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Dozens of people inundating her twitter feed with demands about Jody probably isn't helping much.  :groan:

So we have sightings in France at Paris, St Tropez and then Arles... anyone want to speculation on timeline here based on what we know? Because I thought we saw them in Paris after Tropez but that makes no sense...

Guessing they flew into Paris, then flight or train to tropez... then either Bus train or scar to Arles?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 10, 2017, 03:57:19 PM
^ Self drive is a possibility although I'm not sure. What is the max distance they've had people drive before?

Also remember the current time in Arles is 11PM so that could have been filmed this morning or even yesterday.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 10, 2017, 03:59:14 PM
Teams were probably forbidden from flying Ryan Air from Tangier to Marseille due to the airline's baggage policy, so teams mostly flew to Marseille via Paris
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 10, 2017, 03:59:28 PM
SnapMap shows that today was votive festival in Aigues-Mortes, commune located 50 km from Arles. Maybe leg goes through there or it's just coincidence.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
It only about a 2.5 hour self drive. But if I remember correctly, the tolls were about $30 the last time I drove it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
It only about a 2.5 hour self drive. But if I remember correctly, the tolls were about $30 the last time I drove it.

What an your best on a timeline in France of the sightings weíve seen in Paris, Tropez and now Arles?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
Paris was just a flight, not a leg.

St Tropez we know

Arles: Most likely?

Phil filmed that standup yesterday and Leg is today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 04:17:02 PM
From Xoruz's link (above).
(https://i.imgur.com/TZ9jZ2q.jpg)

So the tolls would be about the same, but driving saves a lot of time.  If production needs to delay the teams for some reason, bus all the way is the slowest.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
Paris was just a flight, not a leg.

St Tropez we know

Arles: Most likely?

Phil filmed that standup yesterday and Leg is today

Yah no theyíre leg... but I thought we saw NBA in Paris after Tropez? Youíre thinking they flew from Morocco to Paris then pit stop was St Tropez... then next leg was a possible drive to Arles?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 04:30:43 PM
^

Yeah, sighting of B-Ball in CDG was from before St. Tropez, but just was found after we started getting sightings in St. Tropez
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:32:46 PM
Paris was just a flight, not a leg.

St Tropez we know

Arles: Most likely?

Phil filmed that standup yesterday and Leg is today

Yah no they’re leg... but I thought we saw NBA in Paris after Tropez? You’re thinking they flew from Morocco to Paris then pit stop was St Tropez... then next leg was a possible drive to Arles?

Why don't you check OUR Timeline? It is up to date and I agree with what is there. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:38:07 PM
So: I expect that the Arles leg was today, with Phil's standup yesterday (spec).

SO likely the ST Tropez Pitstop could be an extended one.  If so...

throwing this out there as a possible reason why:


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Arles/Marseille%20to%20Tel%20Aviv%20RFF.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 05:01:23 PM
Hello everyone.

I've been reading here for years, and really appreciate all you guys!  There, in long ago TAR days used to be other sites with great spoilers, spec, sightings, and timelines, but now?  I have to say you are the best.  Thanks!

Now my first post is pure spec, but here goes.  I keep coming back to they left Europe, went to Africa (Morocco) which clicks off another continent for them quite easily.  But WHY go back to Europe right after that?  From south to north in other words?  So, many possible reasons including cool travel arrangements or easier travel arrangements, but I would be pretty surprised if they then headed back again?

So, I'm guessing an eastward leg next, and that brings up the old favorite, India, with possibly one more stop in between?

Just a thought, and yes, I realize anything is possible.  I hope we get some new sightings soon.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 10, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
Why would they extend St. Tropez if the next leg is just two hours away?

My thinking:

10/8 - leg 4 in St. Tropez
10/9 - leg 5 in Arles
10/10 - extended pit stop for teams; Phil films any extra things for Arles and travels to the next location
10/11 - teams travel somewhere for leg 6
10/12 - leg 6 in somewhere

"somewhere" could easily be Tel Aviv or Jordan <3 or really anywhere; there are flights from MRS to London, Frankfurt and Istanbul tomorrow afternoon which could connect to lots of places.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Brannockdevice on October 10, 2017, 05:07:05 PM
I've always wanted them to visit the Camargue, near Arles!  :conf: :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 10, 2017, 05:15:23 PM
Why would they extend St. Tropez if the next leg is just two hours away?

My thinking:

10/8 - leg 3 in St. Tropez
10/9 - leg 4 in Arles
10/10 - extended pit stop for teams; Phil films any extra things for Arles and travels to the next location
10/11 - teams travel somewhere for leg 5
10/12 - leg 5 in somewhere

"somewhere" could easily be Tel Aviv or Jordan <3 or really anywhere; there are flights from MRS to London, Frankfurt and Istanbul tomorrow afternoon which could connect to lots of places.


leg 3 was morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 05:20:33 PM
Hello everyone.

I've been reading here for years, and really appreciate all you guys!  There, in long ago TAR days used to be other sites with great spoilers, spec, sightings, and timelines, but now?  I have to say you are the best.  Thanks!

Now my first post is pure spec, but here goes.  I keep coming back to they left Europe, went to Africa (Morocco) which clicks off another continent for them quite easily.  But WHY go back to Europe right after that?  From south to north in other words?  So, many possible reasons including cool travel arrangements or easier travel arrangements, but I would be pretty surprised if they then headed back again?

So, I'm guessing an eastward leg next, and that brings up the old favorite, India, with possibly one more stop in between?

Just a thought, and yes, I realize anything is possible.  I hope we get some new sightings soon.

Welcome Seastars!, and thank you for the kind words!

I agree on another stop. This is the best time of year to go to NEPAL, so I have convinced myself we are finally going there. To do that would almost certainly require a stop in India...Mumbai would work, esp if Cape Town enters the picture. (PURE SPEC)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
Why would they extend St. Tropez if the next leg is just two hours away?

My thinking:

10/8 - leg 4 in St. Tropez
10/9 - leg 5 in Arles
10/10 - extended pit stop for teams; Phil films any extra things for Arles and travels to the next location
10/11 - teams travel somewhere for leg 6
10/12 - leg 6 in somewhere

"somewhere" could easily be Tel Aviv or Jordan <3 or really anywhere; there are flights from MRS to London, Frankfurt and Istanbul tomorrow afternoon which could connect to lots of places.

Phil films his standup before...then races to keep ahead. Generally does not hang around the following day.

The reason for an extended PitStop could be the flight I posted. That particular one is not a DAILY flight. So hold them back to make it work.

Again ...spec. They could equally well head to SO Africa or India...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 05:55:05 PM
Sorry if I missed this, but do we have confirmation about when the Arles intro was filmed?  A specific date or time?  I've looked but can't find one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 06:03:18 PM
Since we don't know when was that video in Arles is taken, there's MAYBE a possibility that Arles was a 1st part of a leg in France (Marseille airport->Arles->St. Tropez) and, again, MAYBE both cities were included in one leg.

Got ths thinking only because France is overused, and there's no other evidence in Arles.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 06:03:25 PM
We do not. Prob yesterday or today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 10, 2017, 06:08:22 PM
I know nothing is concrete. But do we think weíre on Leg 5 or 6?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 06:13:40 PM
Thanks, it makes sense that it could have been the beginning of the one ending in St. Tropez, rather than more backtracking, but hopefully we will find out soon.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 06:20:07 PM
General consensus (first two legs pretty much confirmed, others not-so-much):
Leg 1 NYC to Reykjavik, Iceland
Leg 2 Reykjavik to Antwerp, Belgium (via Amsterdam)
Leg 3 Antwerp to Tangier, Morocco
Leg 4 Tangier to St Tropez, France (via CDG, Paris?)
Leg 5 St Tropez to Arles, France
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 10, 2017, 06:28:16 PM
Iím just getting caught up.. is there any chance that the Arles Leg could be the same leg as Saint Tropez and we only just found this out?

Aka fly into Marseille ó> Arles ó > St. Tropez where the pitstop was..

Or is Arles itís own leg ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
The video of Phil didn't show up until today, though we haven't pinned down when it was shot.  But there was also a hint that they were headed to Arles after St Tropez.

Hint from @ShenShen333: https://twitter.com/ShenShen333/status/917842327640641537
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 06:36:04 PM
Could the extended pit stop/down-time be to avoid the airport strikes that were happening today?

I know they at very least happened in Nice

How much advanced notice is there prior to one of these strikes?

Like is it something that production could potentially be aware of before the race started, or would be something more of a mid race delay theyíd have to adjust for?

Although, I do like Peachís spec regarding waiting for a particular flight
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 10, 2017, 06:37:59 PM
Theres a post on facebook of the people/company that took the aerial shots even as recent as 5 hours ago taking more shots of the inside of the Arena where Phil was standing outside.  its safe to assume they are still in Arles, France. And the same company also shot aerial shots from St. Tropez port on Sunday...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1898783547106835&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 10, 2017, 06:40:04 PM
they also posted these shots; and the comments/conversations translates to Mar Didier saying he was on a job. it would make sense since i have heard people say on here they do hire local people for some jobs. this is a french company that shoots aerial shots for moveis and tv shows per their website. 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1897904647194725&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1898327350485788&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1898676307117559&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 10, 2017, 07:24:03 PM
Regarding the post above, I think the FB post was saying that production and the racers stayed at a village residence. He is saying they took over the place with over 100 production. I believe this is the place. http://locations.lastminute.com/produit.aspx?lieu_id=366&lihe_id=5389&typp_id=10&utm_medium=meta_search&utm_source=lve&utm_campaign=core_selfcatering&utm_content=summer_hs&utm_term=Grimaud_5389&acntb=selfcatering&date=14/10/2017&duree=7&tag_uci=plve-RKLCCz2zIB8JTfDJ&marque_uci=LVE&org_lve=lve
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:25:26 PM
General consensus (first two legs pretty much confirmed, others not-so-much):
Leg 1 NYC to Reykjavik, Iceland
Leg 2 Reykjavik to Antwerp, Belgium (via Amsterdam)
Leg 3 Antwerp to Tangier, Morocco
Leg 4 Tangier to St Tropez, France (via CDG, Paris?)
Leg 5 St Tropez to Arles, France

There is some discussion that there may be  room for another leg before Tangier.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 10, 2017, 07:31:11 PM
Hmm I donít think thatís possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 07:33:57 PM
Hmm I donít think thatís possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin werenít seen in France


Nvm- I can't read good  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:39:49 PM
Oh good job AfreekNSheets  and Jessietrey!!  :hearts:

Really sounds like the drone shots would be for the leg today.

While it would make sense to also use him for leg 8, he may have been there to film the big sailing meet going on instead, can't be sure

Nice find for the crew quarters!!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
Hmm I don’t think that’s possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

Good point!! This girl needs some SLEEP!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 10, 2017, 07:41:31 PM
Hmm I donít think thatís possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin werenít seen in France

Yes but they were seen in Morocco, so for there to be another leg BEFORE Morocco there would have had to be another NEL assuming Morocco was a NEL where the basketball players placed last.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 07:44:17 PM
Hmm I donít think thatís possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin werenít seen in France

Yes but they were seen in Morocco, so for there to be another leg BEFORE Morocco there would have had to be another NEL assuming Morocco was a NEL where the basketball players placed last.

Sorry, thought it read AFTER Tangier, not BEFORE  :groan: :funny:

I'll adjust my previous post
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 10, 2017, 07:45:16 PM
Hmm I donít think thatís possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin werenít seen in France

I meant during hun.. sorry

We have seen 9 teams all together between Tangier and France.. only teams missing are Ring Girls and Yoga Moms

So Iím saying there couldnít be a leg between Antwerp and Tangier otherwise there would have had to have been 2 NEL back to back.. (assuming Basketball came last in Tangier and survivor St Tropez Leg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 10, 2017, 07:54:02 PM
so do we think they already did this leg in france or they are still waiting to start the next leg and have a really long pit stop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:55:53 PM
Hmmm we may have to rethink when the ARles leg was shot. It could have been yesterday.

The drone guy says he left yesterday! He might have just been hired for background shots, but normally they wuld also do overhead race shots. So I think that means the ARles leg was yesterday.

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Sheesh...I really hate posting production stuff...but this is over and done. :( Too late now!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 08:15:03 PM
Hmmm we may have to rethink when the ARles leg was shot. It could have been yesterday.

The drone guy says he left yesterday! He might have just been hired for background shots, but normally they wuld also do overhead race shots. So I think that means the ARles leg was yesterday.

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Sheesh...I really hate posting production stuff...but this is over and done. :( Too late now!

That just makes so much sense to me, I have a hard time believing that TAR producers would go backwards twice in a row, I know it's possible, but seems so strange to me.

That's the former Club Med I believe, and a nice one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 10, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
There is a photo of a boat in the evening of 08/10 at Saint-Tropez and Phil mentioned boats while talking to the NBA team, so it must be that the racers were there that day/evening.

The resort, which he had already left by the evening of 09/10 has been identified by jessietrey.
It is in Grimaud, a little village right next to Saint-Tropez. It's not in Arles, which I got the impression you think, Peach.
He added a comment with that photo, saying he arrived late the previous night and woke up to that view. So that night must have been the pit stop.

The photo from Arles was posted during the day of 10/10, which would suggest a different leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TAR789 on October 10, 2017, 09:42:48 PM
There is also this:

https://www.facebook.com/aeromaker.fr/videos/1741837826121383/?id=100009256257155&hc_ref=ARTA2BunpT0iukccNfiyYcjj2lSXEvyeJ6pSyuNVKthn9DnJocaqe-pe_sUhTTDo6A8&fref=nf

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En transfert vers les Baux de ProvenceÖ

#Aeromaker #Drone #CBS #TheAmasingRace

Les Baux de Provence was TAR's 3rd Pitstop, and is only 30 minutes away from Arles by car
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 10, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Hmmm we may have to rethink when the ARles leg was shot. It could have been yesterday.

The drone guy says he left yesterday! He might have just been hired for background shots, but normally they wuld also do overhead race shots. So I think that means the ARles leg was yesterday.

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Sheesh...I really hate posting production stuff...but this is over and done. :( Too late now!

Makes more sense to me, as staying in a country means no need for a travel day and is usually filmed the day after the previous. This is all based on the summaries I've put together over the last few years and shouldn't be taken as fact. But I would suggest:

Leg 01: Reykjavik, Iceland (Oct. 2)
Leg 02: Antwerp, Belgium (Oct. 4)
Leg 03: Tangier, Morocco (Oct. 6)
Leg 04: Saint-Tropez, France (Oct. 8)
Leg 05: Arles, France (Oct. 9)
Leg 06: TBD (Oct. 11)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 11, 2017, 12:11:22 AM
So, they DID film in Arles? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: REPDATHLR on October 11, 2017, 09:38:02 AM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
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I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.

Yah kinda weird, could be a troll? Or maybe she moved to Scotland? On vacation? Who knows... I searched snap in a few coastal cities in Scotland and didnít see anything...
She's in Europe.


link removed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 10:08:10 AM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
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I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.

Yah kinda weird, could be a troll? Or maybe she moved to Scotland? On vacation? Who knows... I searched snap in a few coastal cities in Scotland and didn’t see anything...
She's in Europe.


link removed

:welcome: to RFF! And thanks for the update. I agree, we can confirm that.

But I think we should move on and leave this young woman alone now.  Most of her info is private so RFF is going to respect that. If she makes another public (twitter, etc) post about this >> fair to share.

Thanks so much !
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:04:09 PM
Thanks for the video peach and annak!

At least it gives us a flyout point. Are we sure that it is a TAR crew?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 11, 2017, 02:09:18 PM
Video works for me now!
Thanks to annak, but did she report seeing any teams or have any idea where to/when they were leaving?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 11, 2017, 02:11:51 PM
A Jody fan found this, assumed to be in the Uk ( guy lives in Kingsley Uk)

https://twitter.com/jessicacodybb19/status/918186054766784513

https://twitter.com/shenshen333/status/918190786256175105

This person seems to take bonk it was from Tangier, sorry you can delete if you want
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 02:22:19 PM
She found, did not take, this video. And I agreed it looks like TAR crew. Have just checked possible flights.

Assuming vid taken approx. 630PM local, departure should be approx. 30 min later.

Destinations sadly only suggest a connection elsewhere, likely Paris or Frankfurt.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:24:02 PM
Paris would be the larger hub, does TAR usually schedule flights back to back or with a layover?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
Paris would be the larger hub, does TAR usually schedule flights back to back or with a layover?

Usually it's up to the teams to find flights- although they'll sometimes have pre-booked flights for more obscure destinations
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 02:31:58 PM
I see flights to Madrid, Munich, Rome, and both Paris airports that fit within that timeline

I'll look at each of those airports to see if there's any stand-out flights that fit within our timeline
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
Paris Orly departures are pretty mundane from 8-10pm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
Usually it's up to the teams to find flights- although they'll sometimes have pre-booked flights for more obscure destinations

What I was asking is how close do they cut the flights? Is it up to the teams discretion? It seems silly for them to book something without at least a 45 min to 1hr gap between flights.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 11, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
Season 4 they did MRS to AMS for a leg in Amsterdam.

For many reasons, I wonder if they had time to visit the Ch‚teau d'If in Marseille... :escape
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 02:45:29 PM
Assuming Frankfurt:

These are my two favorite options that could fit the time frame:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/FRA%20to%20PRA%20possible.jpg)


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/FRA%20to%20CPT%20possible.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 02:52:49 PM
Assuming CDG these two would be my favorites. Keep in mind many other options available.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20TelAviv%20possible.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20JNB%20possible.jpg)

Tel-Aviv or Cape Town or Prague are all  very strong  possibilities.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:55:34 PM
Some really interesting ones at CDG. Here's an oddball but it might be too remote and not give much options when it comes to flying on from this location.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Delhi and Tokyo are also options.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 11, 2017, 02:57:52 PM
Assuming CDG these two would be my favorites. Keep in mind many other options available.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20TelAviv%20possible.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20JNB%20possible.jpg)

Tel-Aviv or Cape Town or Prague are all  very strong  possibilities.
I like Tel Aviv via Paris - especially since there was a direct flight from Marseille to Tel Aviv earlier in the day for Phil to get ahead on:
      
(TLV) Tel Aviv-Yafo El Al 322 11:15 AM
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 03:22:58 PM
Not sure how to screen capture and upload, but Madrid has a flight to Tel-Aviv tonight as well

IB3317/LY8397 departing at 10:05pm

There was a flight to Madrid from Marseille that would fit well with the timeline too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
I have a reason to think that Tel-Aviv should be high on our list. Just saying...not confirming.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 11, 2017, 03:43:13 PM
Would be a very interesting new country. I guess it wouldn't hurt, seeing as Israel has their own TAR that has visited the US in a past season. If they do, I'd assume the teams are reminded to be respectful.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 11, 2017, 04:18:12 PM
I would LOVE to see Israel in TAR!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 11, 2017, 05:06:44 PM
British Airways should have lots of Tel Aviv & Cape Town options via Heathrow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 05:44:18 PM
Fumicino (Rome) has 2 that fit the timeline to Tel Aviv as well

They had a couple others, too: Amman, Athens, Tirana

But they seem less likely
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 11, 2017, 07:06:22 PM
British Airways should have lots of Tel Aviv & Cape Town options via Heathrow.

You are absolutely right, BA has daily flights from Heathrow to Cape Town into the night.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 11, 2017, 10:10:29 PM
After looking close at the video at Marseille Provence Aeroport there is a "coffee" sign with windows above it.  It looks like it is the Starbucks from Hall 1 and flight 1089 actual departure was changed to 6:50 pm and arrival 8:07 pm in Frankfort (all kinds of gate and time adjustments to this flight) This flight matches the gates and time of the video too.  Just saying.  :chute:

Possibly back to Hamburg (coastal city in Germany visited in #16?)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on October 11, 2017, 10:35:44 PM
Nice find! If teams are going to arrive at Frankfurt around 8:07pm some possible destinations not in Europe could be:

Cape Town (Lufthansa 576 10:15pm -> 10:00am+1)

Johannesburg (Lufthansa 572 10:05pm -> 8:30am +1)

Addis Ababa (Ethiopian 707 10:05pm -> 5:55am +1)

New Delhi (Air India 120 9:15pm - 8:30am +1)

Singapore (Lufthansa 778 9:55pm -> 4:15pm+1, Singapore Airlines 325 10:00pm -> 4:25pm +1)

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 11:12:13 PM
Definitely looks like Starbucks

However, that's on the main floor of Hall 1 (like right next to one of the airport entrances), could really be for any flight leaving from Hall 1 in that timeframe

Based on their location and the timing, I would almost think that they weren't going for the Frankfurt flight- if they were just arriving at the airport, and the flight hadn't been delayed, they would've missed it

It would be more likely that they would've been on the other side of security and trying to make sure they were at the correct gate had they been going for the Frankfurt flight, just based on timing of video/original flight time

Just my  :2cents:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 11, 2017, 11:33:38 PM
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=936417940&airlineCode=LH&flightNumber=1089

Reading the Flight Status that flight delayed take off until 6:50 and landed slightly overtime.  If the camera's were there the timing is relevant.  I don't think they want the teams lingering at the airport because then we would have possibly more sightings or photos? idk
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
It just seems too tight a window for me, unless they were buying tickets just then and the gate was still open and there was no line for security
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 12, 2017, 01:28:43 AM
New to posting! Hope this helps in some way! Our drone guy has posted a new photo of another possible location from around the Arles, France area.  His post read "Yesterday morning. Les baux de Provence" Here's the link to the photo:
 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1899188617066328&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:31:39 AM
Thanks so much Hummingbird! Welcome to the Dark Side lol!

That area is close to Marseilles...wonder if it is just for atmosphere or an actual stop? Would make a fun Pit Stop!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 12, 2017, 01:39:15 AM
Just a quick note to everyone at RFF that Iíve had a difficult few months and I hadnít had any time to help out with a belated deadline now out of the way, health issue under control, and a new schnauzer puppy to raise after Liebís unexpected passing in May. (New puppy is Edele, now five months old and happens to be Liebís niece.)
Give me a day or two and I will try to catch up with all things RFF and TAR related with the ongoing filming.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 12, 2017, 02:02:25 AM
Thanks so much Hummingbird! Welcome to the Dark Side lol!

That area is close to Marseilles...wonder if it is just for atmosphere or an actual stop? Would make a fun Pit Stop!
He did tag the show, so I'm assuming it has some relevance. Looks like the perfect place to hide a clue box. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 06:14:51 AM
It just seems too tight a window for me, unless they were buying tickets just then and the gate was still open and there was no line for security

Too tight how? They could have been sitting there for 2 hours. We don't know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 12, 2017, 09:10:15 AM
Was that on an airport shuttle?  Rome is a major Alitalia/KLM/Delta hub.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 09:18:27 AM
Was that on an airport shuttle?  Rome is a major Alitalia/KLM/Delta hub.

I don't see why they would do an actual leg there. They were just in Arles, which has a significant ancient Roman connection, including their own colosseum.

Still. Please, please, please let Rome just be a connection city and not a destination. Otherwise, urgh...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
?? fly all over from Marseille to Rome ??

Someone find the Story please? We need the whole thing and youtubed if possible. Record your screen if you have ios 11

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 12, 2017, 09:21:58 AM
No reason to fly all over from Marseille to Rome.

Someone find the Story please?

Unfortunately, there are no morning daily flights from Marseille to Rome, only Nice has a morning flights to Rome.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 09:34:48 AM
It just seems too tight a window for me, unless they were buying tickets just then and the gate was still open and there was no line for security

Too tight how? They could have been sitting there for 2 hours. We don't know.

Just from where they were- ground floor, pre-security

Based off where the cameraman were standing, and the direction they were filming (in relation to the Starbucks in the background), it looks like the team(s) were at a ticket counter- possibly still buying their tickets?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 12, 2017, 09:50:41 AM
This is the route of the line 200:

(https://image.ibb.co/kVdMdw/Roma2.png)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 09:56:17 AM
 :hearts:  I LOVE you guys!!  Great teamwork, and credit to Jody BB for the find.
Carnage... Chills...Alen great job for the fast work!!

Rome seems starnge, but we'll take it. There was this Vatican rumor.... ???

STart seasrching for sightings in ROME please!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 09:58:58 AM
Shawn looks like heís wearing a very small backpack in that video

The one that is essentially a pouch with pull strings as the straps

Seems an odd thing to wear while racing
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 10:04:17 AM
Here's a thought, what if the sequester place is in Rome? Up out of the main city center at a resort?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
Exceedingly unlikely....but not totally impossible.


Can someone get the ORIGINAL picture please? I have a doggie that Is desperate.... :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 10:09:41 AM
As the race goes on teams empty their bags leg by leg to start to remove unneeded items. By the last leg some teams have no bag. I wouldn't base it off of that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 10:10:19 AM
From the post it sounds like their first stop was Piazza Mancini

Not sure whatís out there beyond the Stadio Olimpico?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
^^^Google maps tells me it's a 37 minute bus ride across the Tiber to Vatican City.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 12, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
If Shawn Marion was seen where's Cedric Ceballos or the camera crew. It's hard to deduce though if this is a leg until we've seen the other teams. ??? I'd agree with Capt. Carnage, Rome could be a sequester place. We've had Tuscany as a sequester place for the Racers in S.29.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:33:31 AM
Where's the Camera Crew in that vid ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
If Shawn Marion was seen where's Cedric Ceballos or the camera crew. It's hard to deduce though if this is a leg until we've seen the other teams. ??? I'd agree with Capt. Carnage, Rome could be a sequester place. We've had Tuscany as a sequester place for the Racers in S.29.

Not going to wandering alone, esp in a major city. The camera crew is...??? ??? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 10:38:00 AM
If Shawn Marion was seen where's Cedric Ceballos or the camera crew. It's hard to deduce though if this is a leg until we've seen the other teams. ??? I'd agree with Capt. Carnage, Rome could be a sequester place. We've had Tuscany as a sequester place for the Racers in S.29.

Not going to wandering alone, esp in a major city. The camera crew is...??? ??? ???

Still waiting but, as of right now, I don't see any sightings on top of the NBA players. Plus, I didn't see a film crew with NBA; could they be sitting down?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 10:41:01 AM
^^^ I doubt crew would sit down on a crowded bus with their equipment???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
So...what are the odds that a pro BB player would just happen to be on a bus with Shawn??

I am starting to think this is something taken at another time, without further info

No partner, no camera crew, possible diff pack (I can't see that) and just...would not be alone EVEN if in sequester.

Production has treated us to faux spoilers before. :sab

 Keep looking, but my money is increasingly on : DISTRACTION. :tup:

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 10:56:19 AM
So...what are the odds that a pro BB player would just happen to be on a bus with Shawn??

I am starting to think this is something taken at another time, without further info

No partner, no camera crew, possible diff pack (I can't see that) and just...would not be alone EVEN if in sequester.

Production has treated us to faux spoilers before. :sab

 Keep looking, but my money is increasingly on : DISTRACTION. :tup:

I actually hope it is and they're somewhere less visited :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 11:00:22 AM
Here is my airport start pic of their packs:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:18:00 AM
cody and jess have been spotted.. They are still in the race.

I don't know how to post picturs but it's on teamjodys twitter.

https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918510310545330176
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 11:18:19 AM
Phew. Back on track with undervisited countries :D

Czech Republic has also only been visited once - the infamous "Franz" task with the Globetrotters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 11:19:57 AM
Double Uturn spotted!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 11:20:43 AM
Double Uturn spotted!

Double Blind U -turn

7 clues also!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...
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Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:23:09 AM
double blind u turn?!?!!?? wow yikes!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:25:24 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 11:28:41 AM
We have

Twins/Violinists/BB/Skiers

and this mystery team:

Henry and Evan???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:30:25 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?

yes in the pic with the twins... they said they saw all the teams, trying to get more info now of order and what teams they saw
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 11:31:03 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?

Well, if they didn't sign an agreement with the show, they can say anything, sure.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 11:31:28 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?

It appears they did. I can't recall ever seeing a hotel give out that kind of information before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 11:32:33 AM
^^^No not where they stayed! There is a clue box there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?


It appears they did. I can't recall ever seeing a hotel give out that kind of information before.

wow BVM is not gonna be happy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:37:43 AM
hopefully we can find out how many teams are left and who got eliminated ..

If there are only 7 it could be the basketball players and lifeguards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: smiley on October 12, 2017, 11:38:13 AM
From Prague, thereís many flights to Israel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 11:38:53 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

Skiers and Jody were spotted, and that photo near u-turn looks like Debaters. Maybe hotel meant that there are 2 m/f teams? Would make first 4 boots RingGirls, YogaMoms, Lifeguards and NBA (if sequester is actually in Italy).
Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:41:19 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

Skiers and Jody were spotted, and that photo near u-turn looks like Debaters. Maybe hotel meant that there are 2 m/f teams? Would make first 4 boots RingGirls, YogaMoms, Lifeguards and NBA (if sequester is actually in Italy).
Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

Yes but the lifeguards could have been last, basketball players second to last and then they got eliminated the last leg we have no info on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:42:01 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so Iíd guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

Skiers and Jody were spotted, and that photo near u-turn looks like Debaters. Maybe hotel meant that there are 2 m/f teams? Would make first 4 boots RingGirls, YogaMoms, Lifeguards and NBA (if sequester is actually in Italy).
Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

they said they saw all the teams and jody was first with skiers behind, and they only saw 2 m/f so yes I think its likely lifeguards eliminated... not weird tho because if NBA was eliminated and running back of the pack, and we saw them around lifeguards they likely were too.

If you all remember in St Tropez I said the man who spotted them said Jody, Violinists, Twins and debaters were the first teams he saw so id speculated thats likely why we hadn't seen them in France and only seeing that teams running in the back of the pack.
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Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:44:32 AM
yea def agreeing with you here about the lifeguards ^^^^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 11:46:37 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.
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Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 11:50:36 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:52:14 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

why not?  I am sure he was super nice to the lifeguards too (if they got last)..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:53:02 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
What if BBall was eliminated in St. Tropez?

Phil couldíve been talking to them about all the difficulties they had, which led to their elimination

But again, they could be anywhere in placing

Does anyone know if production arranges teams on the mat in any particular order based on placement, when multiple teams arrive at the aame time- i.e. right-left first-to-last, or left-right first-to-last?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:54:39 AM
usually only the last leg is in order.. ive seen various orders of other legs doesnt matter left or right =)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
Oh, NBA being last in Saint-Tropez would actually make sense to me. Also would explain them later hanging around pitstop and taking pics with locals.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:57:50 AM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:59:42 AM
Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg
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Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg

no idea but damn they need to leave Europe already sheesh
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 12:03:56 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 12:05:00 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.

Either way we aren't going to really know because the double u turn is going to throw everything off
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 12:05:57 PM
There are seven clues in cluebox, so pretty sure it's 7 teams remaining.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 12:08:45 PM
Based on the sightings, I'm thinking

Leg 1 Ring Girls were knocked out.
Leg 2 Yoga moms didn't stretch out their potential and were eliminated.
Leg 3 NBA was saved.
Leg 4 Lifeguards sunk to the bottom of the competition and were eliminated or NBA were eliminated (I'm thinking the former.)
Leg 5 NBA were eliminated or Lifeguards sunk to the bottom of the competition and were eliminated.
Leg 6 Currently - 7 teams left and U-turn also!

We did have an Italy sighting of Shawn from NBA.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 12:11:21 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.

yea, unfortunately they couldn't remember which team was last only the time difference ... still trying.

btw with 7 teams I think our teams still running are
jody
skier
(were first 2 to the hotel)

violinists
debaters
twins
(seen in Prague)

eaters
indy
(don't think we've seen a pic but if only 2 m/f teams left and NBA eliminated, these make most sense)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 12:11:55 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?
.

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.
Yes itís the current leg. Jody are the first team to arrive to the clue at the hotel and are 4 hours ahead of whatever team is in last
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 12:13:27 PM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last

No "we" are NOT thinking that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 12:18:52 PM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last

No "we" are NOT thinking that.

well I certainly am and it makes a ton of sense logically
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 12:39:36 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 12:49:22 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.

I don't see any pictures at all in the U-Turn frames. Is there another later picture out there that we don't have?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.

I don't see any pictures at all in the U-Turn frames. Is there another later picture out there that we don't have?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
Loooove the idea of Czech Republic being visited. Such an interesting country that has been shunned by TAR.
The place of the iconic Franz Roadblock. <3

.... but isn't this a bit much of Europe for 1 season..?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 12:55:27 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.

I don't see any pictures at all in the U-Turn frames. Is there another later picture out there that we don't have?

I think that's the debaters. Not Jess and Cody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 12:57:51 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZC0idCgSSN/?hl=en&taken-by=evan.lynyak

yes, i am 95% confident that's Debaters
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 12:59:44 PM
Those pictures are on the ground and haven't been used yet. You can't determine who has been u-turned from that. Every team will have a picture in that pile.

Update: Now that we have a few more pictures we can see that the Violinists were U-turned by Jody. Doesn't look like a blind U-turn after all. That makes sense since they were seen together earlier and must have been neck and neck.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 01:04:20 PM
Have we located exactly where these pictures were taken in Prague? I've looked around and I can't find a building that is similar.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:04:44 PM
ya Don't think jess or cody got uturned.. There is a picture of them at the uturn with no pictures up yet..

They very well could have been the first team to make it to the uturn..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:06:13 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 01:06:40 PM
From the pics in Live Sightings we have:
Jody
Violin
Twins
Lifeguards
Skiers
Debaters

Not seen yet:
Basketball, Indy, Eaters
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 12, 2017, 01:09:24 PM
Looks like Jody was first to uturn then skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:10:17 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:10:35 PM
There are seven clues in cluebox, so pretty sure it's 7 teams remaining.

Suppose another team already came through? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:11:33 PM
Looks like Jody was first to uturn then skiers

Is there a pic of skiers U-Turning?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
Looks like Jody was first to uturn then skiers

That lines up with the info the person at the hotel game that Jody was first and Skiers were next.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:12:15 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:13:13 PM


no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last

Lifeguards are seen, right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
 :conf: Jess and Cody appear to be in the lead and they U-turned Violinsist.  The Twins, Debaters, Skiers, and lifeguards are are all not far behind as they are seen together in that pic.  If the hotel only saw 2 M/F teams this doesn't make sense.  Makes me think the Skiers went past the U-turn and Jody found it first after viewing photos.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:14:28 PM
Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg

no idea but damn they need to leave Europe already sheesh

Unlikely with the U-Turn
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 12, 2017, 01:16:25 PM
It looks like the Rudolfinum (https://goo.gl/maps/4jjmPwyzFbE2).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:17:05 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target

That is why the move is ballsy.. They are trying to take a strong team out early and not worried about not getting blood on their hands  :groan:

But I would always uturn somebody just for the simple fact that if something crazy happened between the uturn and the pitstop and I ended up getting lost and coming in last I would never forgive myself if I had a chance to slow a team down and didn't take it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 12, 2017, 01:17:19 PM
The lifeguards are seen in the pictures of everybody at the UTurn...

So it seems that 2 (or maybe just 1) of the following have been eliminated:

-Basketball
- Eaters
-Indy racers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:22:52 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target

That is why the move is ballsy.. They are trying to take a strong team out early and not worried about not getting blood on their hands  :groan:

But I would always uturn somebody just for the simple fact that if something crazy happened between the uturn and the pitstop and I ended up getting lost and coming in last I would never forgive myself if I had a chance to slow a team down and didn't take it.

ballsy? maybe .. smartest? not really... prob would not use it if i was in first place with a team 4 hours behind
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 01:23:56 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target

being that they have seemingly been running at the front of the pack, they're already targets.. and they're taking a shot at arguably the strongest team in the race. its a risk but still smart
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
we will see.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 01:28:21 PM
they were the front of the pack majority of the race? we couldnt even locate the teams? And i wouldnt judge a team just yet and say they are the strongest by some pictures
yes from the best of what we know the won the 1st leg, in top 4 of 2nd leg, and in top group in leg 3, and not seen with bottom group in France... and violinists have been running towards front too from what we know
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:29:16 PM
we have seen photos of Eaters and NBA teams seemingly without camera crew on bus and sitting by the side watching.  Possible both those teams are out?

we saw 7 clues so we are down to 7 teams in Prague today.

 :didimiss:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:30:14 PM
where were the eaters not without a crew?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:31:56 PM
Last photo of eaters they were seen watching by the side and it was questioned why they would just be by the side-- I will go back and relocate that photo
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 01:37:37 PM
Skiers are still in
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918545688123858944
So far we have Debaters, Jody, Violinist, Twins, Skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:39:08 PM
This would explain why Eaters look to be at the side here, and NBA stayed around to take photos and spotted in Rome?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 01:42:54 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!

yes two teams can be uturned but it has to be by 2 different teams and only works if the team is currently behind you..

And no you can't uturnt he same team.. Every other team will see the violinist picture already up there and know they can uturn them again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:50:00 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!

yes two teams can be uturned but it has to be by 2 different teams and only works if the team you want to u turn is currently behind you..

And no you can't uturnt he same team.. Every other team will see the violinist picture already up there and know they can uturn them again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 01:54:34 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!

yes two teams can be uturned but it has to be by 2 different teams and only works if the team is currently behind you..

And no you can't uturnt he same team.. Every other team will see the violinist picture already up there and know they can uturn them again.

Thank you so much. I'm learning on the fly so I'll try not to ask too many more stupid questions!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:54:54 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:55:30 PM
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 12, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape
How do we know it? Thanks for answer.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape
How do we know it? Thanks for answer.

Where does it show the skiers u turning??? I only see Jess n Cody using it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
Are the skiers and jody working together?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I donít think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:05:51 PM
Are the skiers and jody working together?

I don't think there's any evidence to say that?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:07:17 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I donít think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team

Right but when the skiers are showing up there is no one on the board. When everyone is there they are also with the skiers. Then the board was used by Jody. It would make more sense if they used it not being in first place too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 02:08:31 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I donít think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team

Right but when the skiers are showing up there is no one on the board. When everyone is there they are also with the skiers. Then the board was used by Jody. It would make more sense if they used it not being in first place too

This makes it seem that Jody/Violinists are at the back of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
In the picture with all the teams, you can see they are all at the U-turn but the attention is on the Skiers-- I'm speculating that they reached it first and they have the possibility of U-turning a team, but we don't see if they do or if any of the other teams choose to-- I believe Jody was already there. 

I think the Skiers missed the U-turn in the first photo sighting because they are later seen at the U-turn with 3 other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:09:15 PM
The board is still blank when the skiers are there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:10:37 PM
The board is still blank when the skiers are there

I see that one but what is this picture of other other teams being with skiers at the blank board I cannot find it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape

No.we don't know how they placed at the Mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:11:06 PM
I'm taking a guess in my opinion and hope the skiers won this leg. They look very happy running to Phil! Fingers crossed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:13:54 PM
Where is the picture of other teams at a blank uturn board?  The only team I see at the blank board is Skiers and Jody..

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:14:13 PM
Guys, please be careful with your speculation here? LOTS of inaccurate statements!

If you don't understand how Uturns work, please ask.

Uturning someone never guarantees that you are safe. You could get lost, have a flat, screw up your task, ...a thousand things.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:15:30 PM
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it

Not necessarily true. Used to only be one, Season 29 was not limited.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:15:48 PM
Where is the picture of other teams at a blank uturn board?  The only team I see at the blank board is Skiers and Jody..

Because everyone is with the skiers in another shot.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:16:19 PM
Where is the picture of other teams at a blank uturn board?  The only team I see at the blank board is Skiers and Jody..



All the pics are up in live now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:16:28 PM
look at these two photos-- the skiers missed it the first time.  Then Jody came.  In the second photo the skiers look to be facing the camera's and talking indicating they are choosing to name or not name a team at this U-turn.  All the other teams look nervous to me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 02:17:40 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it

Not necessarily true. Used to only be one, Season 29 was not limited.

I thought you were only allowed to use the u turn again if it wa blind the first time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:19:05 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

This makes the most sense from what we've seen.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:20:03 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I don’t think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team

If that was the first clue the leg usually is 4+ hours. If Jody was 4 hours ahead of everyone they could have crawled thru this leg and won, so may  not be accurate.

Also remember that ANYTHING can happen in 4 hours. WHat the order is at the start of a leg in no way reflects what the order will be at the end.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
There is a picture of Jess and Cody on the other side of the hedge from the U-Turn, and no pictures are up yet.  This makes me think that at least one leg of the detour was at this location, and maybe Jody hasn't completed it yet.

In another picture it does look like the skiers are at the U-Turn with a bunch of teams looking on, but we can't see the actual picture area.  I would surmise that this happened after Jody U-Turned the violinists.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:22:45 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe
This is plausible too but I have seen teams go right by clues and U-turns too.  The girls seem like they fly right by it??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:24:01 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

Definitely makes the most sense to me!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 12, 2017, 02:27:18 PM
Every season you could use only one u-turn, blind or not, but in S29 you can use as many as you want as shown by Tara & Joey
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it

Not necessarily true. Used to only be one, Season 29 was not limited.

I thought you were only allowed to use the u turn again if it wa blind the first time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:28:30 PM
https://twitter.com/rebamay35/status/918555474827587590

This seems to detail the tasks, sorry if it was already posted, my computer is blocking some photos.

That Kafka task could be challenging.  (I had to save the photo and enlarge it there to read it.)  The article link didn't load for me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:28:35 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
They let a stranger with a camera get that close up to the board to take the pic so it's not impossible, other thing I was thinking was maybe prod was getting shots to explain the uturn like they usually do
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:29:26 PM
There is a picture of Jess and Cody on the other side of the hedge from the U-Turn, and no pictures are up yet.  This makes me think that at least one leg of the detour was at this location, and maybe Jody hasn't completed it yet.

In another picture it does look like the skiers are at the U-Turn with a bunch of teams looking on, but we can't see the actual picture area.  I would surmise that this happened after Jody U-Turned the violinists.

Is it possible to ask about time stamps on these pics?

I'm not very tech literate but there are ways to see location and time on photos-- do we have any time stamps on these photos?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
Do we know who was elimated in France?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:36:35 PM
Do we know who was elimated in France?

nope all we know is the teams we have not seen in this leg are NBA, Eaters, Race Car Drivers..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: smiley on October 12, 2017, 02:38:41 PM
https://twitter.com/rebamay35/status/918555474827587590

This seems to detail the tasks, sorry if it was already posted, my computer is blocking some photos.

That Kafka task could be challenging.  (I had to save the photo and enlarge it there to read it.)  The article link didn't load for me.

That was a previous season. 🙄
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:39:34 PM
Do we know who was elimated in France?

nope all we know is the teams we have not seen in this leg are NBA, Eaters, Race Car Drivers..

Well, there is this.  NBA in Rome?
https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918487779847426050
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
https://twitter.com/rebamay35/status/918555474827587590

This seems to detail the tasks, sorry if it was already posted, my computer is blocking some photos.

That Kafka task could be challenging.  (I had to save the photo and enlarge it there to read it.)  The article link didn't load for me.

That was a previous season. 🙄

Yikes.  Sorry, and thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
Quote from: Seastars
Well, there is this.  NBA in Rome?
https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918487779847426050
Could be a red herring placed by production.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: Seastars
Well, there is this.  NBA in Rome?
https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918487779847426050
Could be a red herring placed by production.

You mean they may have been decoy racers, since they are so widely recognized?  That was my thought too.  If you mean a completely fake tweet/photo by production and NBA is really in Prague?  Wow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:44:52 PM
I see the skiers getting clue card with the other teams and then see them all at the U-turn.  Yet they are seen by smiles90 running alone down that path and running to Phil & mat (alone?) no photos of other teams here.  Photos of Jody and Violinist around the same street (same photographer) so we can deduce same time-frame. Yet Jody gets to U-turn and uses it to turn Violinist because they are a threat to them.
We can assume if photos are taken is a same batch by the same photographer that it's probable that the timing is close too?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:45:26 PM
So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
How do we know they are first?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 02:46:23 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Fact is, the information from the hotel that Jody were in front of the others by 4 hours doesn't make sense.
Maybe they meant that the were 4 hours in front of the last team. That MIGHT be right.

It's pretty based on photos that all of Skiers/Lifeguards/Debaters/Twins were close together, and Jody must have been behind Skiers, with violinists likely behind.

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
What do you mean?

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
What does this have to do with production? They were photos taken by a local, not production.

So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
No, we don't know that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 02:47:15 PM
Nba team was spotted in Rome at 1330 today according to Dm from guy who saw them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 02:47:56 PM
^ Must be sequester, I think.

Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg

no idea but damn they need to leave Europe already sheesh

Unlikely with the U-Turn
Why? I don't get it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:48:16 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

Doesn't work that way. Production is always right there. Trust me, I've been there/done that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:48:41 PM
I  agree


I see the skiers getting clue card with the other teams and then see them all at the U-turn.  Yet they are seen by smiles90 running alone down that path and running to Phil & mat (alone?) no photos of other teams here.  Photos of Jody and Violinist around the same street (same photographer) so we can deduce same time-frame. Yet Jody gets to U-turn and uses it to turn Violinist because they are a threat to them.
We can assume if photos are taken is a same batch by the same photographer that it's probable that the timing is close too?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:48:51 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Fact is, the information from the hotel that Jody were in front of the others by 4 hours doesn't make sense.
Maybe they meant that the were 4 hours in front of the last team. That MIGHT be right.

It's pretty based on photos that all of Skiers/Lifeguards/Debaters/Twins were close together, and Jody must have been behind Skiers, with violinists likely behind.

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
What do you mean?

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
What does this have to do with production? They were photos taken by a local, not production.

So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
No, we don't know that.

I mean, the user said production wouldn't let people touch the uturn board, then why would they let strangers go up and take pics of it? Someone could have easily just grabbed the pics quick and put hem in the board and snapped a pic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:49:14 PM
So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
How do we know they are first?
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:49:45 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

Doesn't work that way. Production is always right there. Trust me, I've been there/done that.
Ok I believe you :) , do they usually let localists go up to it ? How did they get the pic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 02:50:23 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Fact is, the information from the hotel that Jody were in front of the others by 4 hours doesn't make sense.
Maybe they meant that the were 4 hours in front of the last team. That MIGHT be right.

It's pretty based on photos that all of Skiers/Lifeguards/Debaters/Twins were close together, and Jody must have been behind Skiers, with violinists likely behind.

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
What do you mean?

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
What does this have to do with production? They were photos taken by a local, not production.

So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
No, we don't know that.

Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 02:51:30 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:52:49 PM
Well for Jody sake I hope he voilenits got phileminated  :conf:

It must have been a race between Jody and the skiers to he pit stop and the skiers go there first
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:53:22 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
No, hotel said Jody was 4 hours ahead and arrived with the skiers. Lady at pit stop confirmed skiers were first
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:53:49 PM
How do we know?
Do we know when all picture  where taken ?

People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 02:54:50 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
You probably mean hotel, not pitstop.

Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.
And like I said, this info doesn't make sense, if all of the leg took place in the same day without any Hours of Operation or something similar.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:55:10 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
It's also possible Jody and violinists were near bottom of the pact, and Jody got nervous and used the turn and then used their express pass from leg 1 to jump ahead of all the other teams to catch up to the skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 02:55:48 PM
Do you think that this is the possible location for the pitstop? https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w (https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:56:09 PM

I agree
Well for Jody sake I hope he voilenits got phileminated  :conf:

It must have been a race between Jody and the skiers to he pit stop and the skiers go there first
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:57:51 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
No. A picture of Jody was sent to them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:58:41 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
No. A picture of Jody was sent to them

Ok and was the hotel spotting before or after the Uturn was completed?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:59:52 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
No. A picture of Jody was sent to them

Ok and was the hotel spotting before or after the Uturn was completed?
Before
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 03:00:37 PM
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776

I love how they instantly deduce from info "Skiers were first" that "Oh, well, Jody MUST have been second".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:01:50 PM
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776

I love how they instantly deduce from info "Skiers were first" that "Oh, well, Jody MUST have been second".
Jody fans are pros they contacted the hotel company online and messaged them, the hotel said Jody was at the hotel first with the skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.

No they didnít, I was the one who posted it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:03:14 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
You probably mean hotel, not pitstop.

Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.
And like I said, this info doesn't make sense, if all of the leg took place in the same day without any Hours of Operation or something similar.

Different flights possibly
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:03:42 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..

She saw a pic of Jody and confirmed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:07:51 PM
post removed for rudeness.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
It's possible that jody 5th in leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:08:45 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:10:27 PM
The vacation people who were in Prague took a pic near the clue stand. There are only 7 clues, and nobody took one yet cause they are vines on top of them, so that means

Jody
Yale
Skiers
Twins
Violinists

And 2 more are in this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 03:11:42 PM
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 03:12:14 PM
Yes
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
The vacation people who were in Prague took a pic near the clue stand. There are only 7 clues, and nobody took one yet cause they are vines on top of them, so that means

Jody
Yale
Skiers
Twins
Violinists

And 2 more are in this leg.

Lifeguards were spotted as well


Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists


i think it's correct assumption
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:13:50 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 03:14:03 PM
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776

I love how they instantly deduce from info "Skiers were first" that "Oh, well, Jody MUST have been second".

Could a team come in before the Skiers and not been seen by the person taken the pictures? Or was it clear she heard Phil say they were the first to the mat?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 03:17:20 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?

So far, from the sound of it, they were seen getting a clue DURING the race, not checking in after
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:22:28 PM
would like some help forming a timeline of when skiers finished, and comparing when we saw skiers at u turn and when we saw Jody at u turn.... and see how long possible roadblock took after the u turn

Skiers finished at 230gbt according to witness.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 03:28:54 PM
well if those 4 teams were ahead of Jody going into the uturn (deciding not to use it) and Jody somehow knew the violinists were one of the only teams behind them than the voilinists are in huge trouble..

The would mean they are already trailing and would have to do both detours. ;/


Intresting to note though there is still one team not accounted for if there are 7 teams left.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists


1) we don't know that
2) yes
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
SUNSET TODAY:

6:17 PM


Thursday, October 12, 2017 (GMT+2)

Sunset in Prague, Czechia
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:39:58 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?

Getting a CLUE outside a hotel certainly does not mean that is the hotel they stay in! In fact, prob means it is not. It is just a nice scenic hotel.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
Regarding the U-Turn photo being 'faked.'  It is my  understanding that the Teams carry their own small team photos to use in the "U-Turned By..." spot.  This is also how they control only using it once.

If so, a bystander wouldn't have had access to that smaller photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:42:10 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?

Getting a CLUE outside a hotel certainly does not mean that is the hotel they stay in! In fact, prob means it is not. It is just a nice scenic hotel.
Oh ok I just always remembere them starting a race in front of where they stayed the night before
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
Regarding the U-Turn photo being 'faked.'  It is my  understanding that the Teams carry their own small team photos to use in the "U-Turned By..." spot.  This is also how they control only using it once.

If so, a bystander wouldn't have had access to that smaller photo.
Then why is he small plates seen at the upturn board with the bigger plates?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 03:46:46 PM
The skiers could be the team the first team the lady saw and not first at the pit stop
Is that possible
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:48:16 PM
Do you think that this is the possible location for the pitstop? https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w (https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w)

YES!! Good one!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:49:56 PM

Oh ok I just always remembere them starting a race in front of where they stayed the night before

They do. That would have been in Arles or near Marseille airport. NOT in Prague.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:51:46 PM

Oh ok I just always remembere them starting a race in front of where they stayed the night before

They do. That would have been in Arles or near Marseille airport. NOT in Prague.
It's possible the amazing race made a deal with that hotel to put a clue there if they let the teams stay there for the night after the leg? Maybe idk just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 03:54:31 PM
^^^ It's my opinion that if that hotel was used by production, they wouldn't have allowed the employees to talk about the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 03:59:05 PM
Here is my perception of the photos we found so far today.  :word:

Basket Social Club post photo of Shawn Marion near Rome, Italy? (very strange are they eliminated?)

Twins sighted at The Hotel URaka.  Start of Days Run?  Not the last or first to start the day? As we see box has other clues in it. (no credit given or time of posting by Georgia Peach)

CCGrounds photographs—9:08 am--7 clues, U-turn, Phil yawning on sidewalk, and the Skiers* running past the U-turn, prolly heading to the clues? No clue seen in their hands. He also photographs his wife with the clues, spots Jess & Cody and the Violinists. 

Photos posted by Georgia Peach giving credit to SS* (Time or Where were these photos found? On what site? How do we look up SS*?) Photo of U-Turn with info on  Jody Turning Violinists, then photo of, looks like, all four teams finding clue at castle at same time—twins, debaters, skiers, and lifeguards ( this is weird since we saw skiers in earlier and later photos alone?  Did they get lost for a moment at the castle and then recover? Why didn’t we see the other teams in CCGounds photos? ) We also see photo of all three teams at the clue with Skiers looking to be talking.  Next we see the Debaters off to side perhaps reading the U-turn card? Its taken by the U-turn area and the next photo we see them going alone in a different direction?  She also had picture of Cody & Jess by the U-turn statue before they decided to put up Violinist and they have clue card in hand.  In this photo you can see picture of the U-turn and it looks like same set up at CCGrounds photo (untouched).  This makes me believe they were the first ones to the U-turn.
SS* also has pictures of “Jody” in street heading away or toward castle is unknown.

Mo_smiles90 posted pictures three hours ago of the pit stop and they see only the skiers.  They confirm it’s the first team to pitstop. 

**I assume from this that possible debate team U-turned by the other 3 teams to give them a lead but I also think Jody was the first team to the U-turn and the violinist were right behind them.  By giving the other 4 teams a break this would give Jody favor amongst the other teams.  Skiers were first team to castle but got behind.  After the U-turn they recovered and came in first but we do not see any of the other teams in sight at this time? IDK
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists


1) we don't know that
2) yes

Yes we do. They finished first. It was a pit stop, not continue on. Confirmed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 04:04:28 PM
well if those 4 teams were ahead of Jody going into the uturn (deciding not to use it) and Jody somehow knew the violinists were one of the only teams behind them than the voilinists are in huge trouble..

The would mean they are already trailing and would have to do both detours. ;/


Intresting to note though there is still one team not accounted for if there are 7 teams left.

**look at all photos taken of the U-turn--if the 4 teams got there before Jody then why is the U-turn area untouched when we see photo of Jody by the U-turn before they chose to put Violinist up?  Photos indicate to me Jody first to U-turn. Also 4 teams pick up castle clue at same time but only 3 seen by U-turn.  We see the debaters reading a clue by the U-turn location.  Possible the other 3 turned on the debaters giving them an edge?   A photo can say so much.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 04:08:37 PM
I'd think if the Violinists were right behind Jody, they would've put another team up there already

They can still target another team for a U-turn, when they arrive there and discover they've been U-turned

Wouldn't make sense for a U-turned team to NOT use it if it were available, you know, to help themselves out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 04:12:02 PM
If it was 2-part leg, they'd check in and Phil would quickly pull the next clue from his back pocket, no stopping for interviews.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 04:16:18 PM
We don't know for sure
Anything is possible

I'd think if the Violinists were right behind Jody, they would've put another team up there already

They can still target another team for a U-turn, when they arrive there and discover they've been U-turned

Wouldn't make sense for a U-turned team to NOT use it if it were available, you know, to help themselves out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 04:18:42 PM
Do you think that this is the possible location for the pitstop? https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w (https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w)

If this is the location of the PitStop (and it looks a lot like it) there is a large dirt area behind that little wall where Phil and the Greeter are standing - plenty of room for the Mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 04:19:36 PM
I ask ď@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?Ē Reply was, ďNo just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.Ē

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
Because the first four teams maybe didn't uturn anyone. So they left it blank?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:21:37 PM
I ask ď@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?Ē Reply was, ďNo just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.Ē

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

No. Itís been since confirmed they got first and received a prize by someone there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 04:21:59 PM
I mean, Season 6 spent more than half the race in Europe (7* out of 13* legs)
(Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Hungary x2*, France)
 *Introduction of Double-Length/Keep Racing Legs, I count the Double Leg in Hungary as two

Several other season had 5 or more legs:
Season 3: U.K., Portugal, Germany/Austria, Switzerland x2
Season 4: Italy x2, Austria, France, Netherlands
Season 9: Russia*, Germany, Italy x2, Greece (*Russia first half of double leg, I count as two)
Season 12: Ireland, Netherlands, Lithuania, Croatia, Italy
Season 15: Netherlands, Sweden, Estonia, Czech Republic x2
Season 17: U.K., Sweden, Norway, Russia x2
Season 21: Russia x2, Netherlands, France, Spain
Season 24: Italy x2, Switzerland, Spain, U.K.
Season 25: U.K. x2, Denmark/Sweden, Italy, Malta

This is unprecedented guys, I wouldn't be too worried or upset

We actually haven't gone above 4 in a while, so I'm not surprised by it, honestly

I'm just glad we got more Iceland, Belgium, Czechia, and a more of a beautiful region of France- even if the country as a whole is a bit overused
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
I ask ď@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?Ē Reply was, ďNo just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.Ē

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

No. Itís been since confirmed they got first and received a prize by someone there

I have not seen that do you mind telling where you seen it?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 12, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
Anyone know the time the skiers were at the u turn?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:36:01 PM
I ask ď@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?Ē Reply was, ďNo just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.Ē

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

No. Itís been since confirmed they got first and received a prize by someone there

I have not seen that do you mind telling where you seen it?

Jody fan hasnít been dming with someone who posted pics and was there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 04:36:12 PM
Ok, now I just saw another tweet from TeamJessica15, posting a screenshot of a chat, which says the skiers won a trip.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 04:41:39 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 04:42:05 PM
Jess and Cody please step it up! Ik you can beat the teams left  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 04:44:04 PM
Also Its pretty obvious that the violenists would be eliminated if all the other teams were ahead of them and jody did uturn them! right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 04:46:05 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.

Granted, the photos anyway on this leg were incredible. A few teams pictured - yeah, including Jody! - after some time of no sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 12, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Does anybody know if JODY still has the EXPRESS PASS to utilize in the next leg?  If I remember correctly I read that JODY won the first leg and received the EXPRESS PASS.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:49:31 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.

https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918589189708533760
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 04:53:29 PM
Also Its pretty obvious that the violenists would be eliminated if all the other teams were ahead of them and jody did uturn them! right?

We don't know that the Violinists were behind Jody do we?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 04:54:19 PM
Also Its pretty obvious that the violenists would be eliminated if all the other teams were ahead of them and jody did uturn them! right?

Sure, we can speculate that, as long as we're aware there could be many circumstances which could throw that out the window. Just a couple of examples that come to mind quickly:
A team involved in that assumption could have a penalty, (known or unknown to them)
A mistake was made at U-Turn board.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Does anybody know if JODY still has the EXPRESS PASS to utilize in the next leg?  If I remember correctly I read that JODY won the first leg and received the EXPRESS PASS.

I've never seen this or proof of this.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 04:55:03 PM
Does anybody know if JODY still has the EXPRESS PASS to utilize in the next leg?  If I remember correctly I read that JODY won the first leg and received the EXPRESS PASS.

So far, that is unconfirmed

Some on here are claiming that hardcore, but there isnít any evidence to support it, so it isnít official

In short, we donít have the evidence to know for sure if they even had the express pass in the first place
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 04:57:57 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.

https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918589189708533760

I get this message from that link:

This account's Tweets are protected.

I think was there earlier and just saw statements given with no proof.  I sent a follow request. Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
What haven't been seen today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 05:00:37 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 05:02:32 PM


Thanks for posting the screenshot Iím on mobile
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 05:11:51 PM

IMAGE REMOVED.  ALL INFO FROM OTHER SITES REQUIRE ASKING TO SHARE AND FULL CREDIT TO THE SOURCE.
Apologies to TeamJody #BB19‏ @TeamJessica15



OK, I'll buy that the skiers were first, but I don't see any proof that Jody "must have been in second".

And that's just one instance. There have been several other claims that I haven't seen any evidence for.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 12, 2017, 05:14:23 PM
off topic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
edited
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 05:22:57 PM
^^^^ That twitter account (which is now private) has posted a lot of sightings, etc, but usually didn't credit the source.  This makes follow-up very difficult.

Why wouldnít you need to follow up? Thatís likely why they keep things private so people arenít harassing Gothenburg or their sources.

This is what the new to TAR, Jody fans don't understand. First of all, I'm a huge Jess/Cody fan from BB. But I've watched TAR since season 2. This site doesn't hoard spoilers or try to get credit or keep them to themeselves to be the first or only with the information.

This site is all about getting as much information as possible, making sure it's correct, laying out the route, teams, order, destinations as correctly as possible AND giving credit to anyone who is a source. That's not what I see happening with jody fans on twitter. Also posting DM's is pretty sketchy too, unless they've been given permission from the person.

No one is trying to deny any information, the people here just don't believe it as fact until there's proof. They've lived this for many many years. They've been through all the different things that can happen and are just trying to have fun while piecing together the race for ALL racers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 05:24:10 PM
Off topic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
It's truly sad how much the the TAR community is shitting on Jody fans. They're working hard as sleuths and giving much needed attention back to the show. Why the disrespect???

Read my post above. No one is doing that. People just want facts to piece together the race. The only disrespect is not giving credit to the sources of information throughout the race.

No one cares who is fans of who. We want GOOD information that is proven. That's all.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 05:34:23 PM
^^^^ That twitter account (which is now private) has posted a lot of sightings, etc, but usually didn't credit the source.  This makes follow-up very difficult.

Why would you need to follow up? Thatís likely why they keep things private so people arenít harassing Gothenburg or their sources.

This is kind of a perfect example. One possible follow-up would be to find out what order the pictures were taken in. A lot of the questions directed at this person's twitter could have been handled discretely by contacting the original poster.  Most of what we have now is hearsay, despite having lots of photo evidence. All the photos in the world can't give us information on the order of the race unless we know when and where they were taken.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 05:35:36 PM
^^^^ That twitter account (which is now private) has posted a lot of sightings, etc, but usually didn't credit the source.  This makes follow-up very difficult.

Why would you need to follow up? That’s likely why they keep things private so people aren’t harassing Gothenburg or their sources.

We follow up because that is what we do. Regardless of what others do, we do things clearly a little differently. We rarely rely on one source, we check multiple sources.

If she got the info from a source, that's great! Great idea to screencap it too. If that info was shared readily we could understand things much better.

But this whole block/don't share thing is crazy.

Every other BB season RFF has worked TOGETHER with BB forums, and that made for some delightful and very effective spoiling seasons.

When people feel free to use our photos without credit, remove logos to claim credit for themselves, and then hide that, something is wrong.

This is not a competition between boards. I could care less who gets what when.

This is a thoughtful, serious evaluation of an enormous amount of data to reach some conclusions. I do care about accuracy. There will be mistakes, and misunderstanding of what we see...that is inevitable. But we try hard to read the data correctly, and appreciate all of YOU helping to bring us info.

But please, be SURE before you make a firm statement that you 1) understand how things work, 2) have correct info that can be documented, and 3) are careful how you word things. If you only hope/wish/ something is true, please say that. Do not state it as fact. Lot's of things can be interpreted more than one way.

Okay...back to spoiling!! Go find some more goodies!! :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 05:42:58 PM
I'd think if the Violinists were right behind Jody, they would've put another team up there already

They can still target another team for a U-turn, when they arrive there and discover they've been U-turned

Wouldn't make sense for a U-turned team to NOT use it if it were available, you know, to help themselves out

Maybe they did?  We have seen no pictures of the violinists at the Uturn, but if they were the last team to get there it doesn't matter they can't u turn anybody.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
I credit each and every photographer. I mark their pics with THEIR names. As do our team.

I have credited BB sources several times today.

I expect you all to do that as well. If that screencap was used without permission or credit, please edit your posts and delete it if you do not have permission to use it.

You all have NO idea how we function and how many hours of behind the scene work goes into being sure we have our facts straight.

We are MOVING ON NOW.

Back to spoiling.

Further discussion should go back to SPOILING and the TAR legs.

If you want to be here and help us with that, fine, We LOVE having you.

If you prefer another forum, by all means go there instead.

BUT THIS DISCUSSION IS CLOSED.

BACK TO DISCUSSION OF SPOILERS AND THAT IS IT!



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 05:58:32 PM
Quick recap of today's info up to this point to help get us all back on track:

7 clue packs were seen so we know there are at least 7 teams in this leg.

Teams seen today (in no particular order): Skiers, Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins, Jody, Violinists

Not seen YET today but not confirmed to be eliminated: Indy Racers, Eaters

Not seen in today and believed to have been eliminated: Ring Girls, Yoga Moms, Basketballers

We also have confirmation that Jody used a U-Turn on Violinists, and Skiers were seen at the Pit Stop.

Also, Skiers POSSIBLY (but not confirmed) finished 1st and POSSIBLY won a trip (POSSIBLY to Australia) as a prize.

Hope this helps a little!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 06:42:09 PM
Quick recap of today's info up to this point to help get us all back on track:

7 clue packs were seen so we know there are at least 7 teams in this leg.

Teams seen today (in no particular order): Skiers, Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins, Jody, Violinists

Not seen YET today but not confirmed to be eliminated: Indy Racers, Eaters

Not seen in today and believed to have been eliminated: Ring Girls, Yoga Moms, Basketballers

We also have confirmation that Jody used a U-Turn on Violinists, and Skiers were seen at the Pit Stop.

Also, Skiers POSSIBLY (but not confirmed) finished 1st and POSSIBLY won a trip (POSSIBLY to Australia) as a prize.

Hope this helps a little!

That's a good synopsis. I'll add the obvious point that since there were seven teams and only 6 were seen, either Indy or the Eaters were still in the race but not both.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 06:59:48 PM
Basically to summarize the U-Turn for you first time BB fans :) This is the biggest thing in the game one team can do to impede another. The team who is targeted by the U-Turn (only if they're behind the team that U-Turned, otherwise it doesn't work) is forced to turn back and do both tasks of the Detour.

If Jody hadn't gotten there first, I'd guess the odds are high they would have been U-Turned. It's often used to slow down a team who others feel is a threat. And sometimes by a team who's fallen behind, on a team even farther behind to create a buffer, which almost guarantees elimination for the latter.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
I do think it is weird that 4 teams that were so close together would all not use the U turn before Jody got there.

With everybody so close wouldn't you want to make sure you don't get last espically if they don't know for sure if there was another team ahead of them?

You would think the 4 teams would make a pact to use it on the teams that weren't with them at the time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 12, 2017, 07:02:19 PM
In one of the pics of Jess and Cody talking to people on street (pic#8 on the numbered pics) it looks like a clock on a street pole.  Were any times mentioned in any of the posts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:02:41 PM
I don't believe Jody did get there first? I thought it was The Skiers?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:07:32 PM
OKAY: ONE MORE POST.

PRIVATE information from another site should NOT be used without

1) PERMISSION and
2) credit.

Just as RFF likes credit for what we post, we expect others to GIVE credit for work well done.

Today a post was lifted from another site without permission. I am deleting all of those now and have apologized to the owner.

If you go multiple places you are responsible for the above. If you have any questions you can always MESSAGE me here or on Twitter  to see if it can be used.

Thanks guys! Back to TAR!



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:08:45 PM
In one of the pics of Jess and Cody talking to people on street (pic#8 on the numbered pics) it looks like a clock on a street pole.  Were any times mentioned in any of the posts?


:welcome: I remember seeing a clock time of about noon on one of the pics.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 07:14:15 PM
I do think it is weird that 4 teams that were so close together would all not use the U turn before Jody got there.

With everybody so close wouldn't you want to make sure you don't get last espically if they don't know for sure if there was another team ahead of them?

You would think the 4 teams would make a pact to use it on the teams that weren't with them at the time.

Sometimes you have to weigh the risks: use a U-Turn on a team vs it backfiring and they target you next time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:17:25 PM
Which picture, I was looking for that.  We know that four teams got their clue at the castle at the same time. And all four were at the U-turn at the same time too.  If you look at the photo with the Skiers at U-turn facing the cameras and seemingly talking about their U-turn decision. There are two ladies in the background that we later see in the photo of the Debaters near the U-turn location but they are now headed up the stairs into the building making it known that this photo followed the other in time.  Here is where I speculate that it is possible that the 3 teams U-turned the Debaters because they seem to go off in a different direction without all the others. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 07:20:04 PM
In one of the pics of Jess and Cody talking to people on street (pic#8 on the numbered pics) it looks like a clock on a street pole.  Were any times mentioned in any of the posts?
Thereís a picture of Jody talking to a local with a clock in the background Time was 12:02 pm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: justmjlayson on October 12, 2017, 07:21:47 PM
Assuming that Violinists were U-Turned, does that mean the Indy or Eaters who weren't in sightings gets ahead of them? If so, the Indy or Eaters might have a chance to get 2nd to Last while Violinists are in the back, at risk of being in elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 07:25:23 PM
I don't believe Jody did get there first? I thought it was The Skiers?

Or "before teams who would want to target them", I should have used better wording :)

Heck, there could have been a Fast Forward on this leg, and that's how the skiers got ahead of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:30:28 PM
Does anyone know how the U-turn works? After a team is there, do they remove their photo so the teams behind know they can not be U-turned?
If their photos are removed, we can know for sure that Jess and Cody were at the U-turn first because the Yale Debaters photo is showing in all the U-turn pictures--untouched, and they were there directly after the Skiers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Fast Forwards usually happen early in the leg, for the team to avoid doing detour/roadblock and head straight to the pit stop

Donít think the ladies would be at the U-turn board if they got a Fast Forward
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 07:33:45 PM
U-turn photos stay

Weíve had plenty occasions of a team accidentally u-turning a team ahead of them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:34:48 PM
POST EDITED:


IMAGE REMOVED.  ALL INFO FROM OTHER SITES REQUIRE ASKING TO SHARE AND FULL CREDIT TO THE SOURCE.
Apologies to TeamJody #BB19‏ @TeamJessica15


Thanks for posting the screenshot Iím on mobile

He deleted or lock this account after he tweeted that to me. I can no longer see it.

OK, I'll buy that the skiers were first, but I don't see any proof that Jody "must have been in second".

And that's just one instance. There have been several other claims that I haven't seen any evidence for.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:38:13 PM
I don't believe Jody did get there first? I thought it was The Skiers?

Examine the photos, I think Jody got to the U-turn before the Skiers. The photos at the bottom of the U-turn statue are all untouched and have the Debaters on top-- the debaters followed the Skiers, the twins, the lifeguards at the U-turn according to photos.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 07:39:06 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Prague/Prague%20SS8x.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Prague/Prague%20SS8x.jpg)

Here is the clock photo.  This building looks to be on the side of the plaza opposite the Dvorak statue. Slowhatch posted a link to the area on google.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:43:08 PM
U-turn photos stay

Weíve had plenty occasions of a team accidentally u-turning a team ahead of them

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Thank you for this information.  So do the photos usually remain in order too? IDK I look at the photos and the scene of the statue with photos look untouched until we see the U-turn on the Violinists.  Being the first photographer saw only Skiers coming into the castle grounds, but the violinist and Jody on the street, it's plausible they were in close proximity of each other.

later we see the skiers, debaters, lifeguards, and twins all getting there clues at the same time and showing up to the U-turn together.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
Dvorak? Hmm, wonder if they could have done something with that.

There's two famous Dvoraks, the composer, and the guy who patented the keyboard layout. If there's violinists in the race, I could see the former being the theme of a task.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:48:00 PM
Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 07:55:27 PM
Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?
Picture of Jody clock reads 12:02, fb posting of other teams was posted 12:09, Skiers at pit stop 2:30 pm gmt
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 07:56:17 PM
All of those photos were taken and posted by the same person.

How did he post a picture of Jody at 12:02 when the pictures were there at 9 AM???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 08:12:11 PM
Dvorak? Hmm, wonder if they could have done something with that.

There's two famous Dvoraks, the composer, and the guy who patented the keyboard layout. If there's violinists in the race, I could see the former being the theme of a task.

The composer Dvorak was a Czech, so that would be the obvious connection. The Violinists would have a big advantage. I'm not sure how you would design a task around keyboards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
Yeah, we've seen in the past how a lot of times, a team gets that one task that's exactly in their wheelhouse, there could certainly be one here for them. He was indeed a violinist and composer for string orchestra.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 08:20:46 PM
All of those photos were taken and posted by the same person.

How did he post a picture of Jody at 12:02 when the pictures were there at 9 AM???

Not same photographer.  Picture of Jody @ 12:02 taken by SS*  The photos posted this morning were at or near the castle posted at 9am byhttps://twitter.com/WhitmoorCCSuper
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 08:22:33 PM
That's the same person. SS is his Facebook name.

He posted them all at the same time on Facebook.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 08:26:02 PM
Would it have to do with his FB settings?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 08:28:59 PM
What are different times?
Do they mean anything?

Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?
Picture of Jody clock reads 12:02, fb posting of other teams was posted 12:09, Skiers at pit stop 2:30 pm gmt
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 08:31:07 PM
Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?


You have to take into account time zones. Where was the photographer posting from? Could his camera be set not to local time? All that matters. 9AM whose time? Your or his? May read differently.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 08:35:10 PM
Ok. I understand it.

Those photos were posted 2:36 PM in Prague. That's how they caught Jody at 12:02.

I had to adjust for my timezone.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 09:24:56 PM
Guessing they're probably moving on from Europe next. 4 countries there now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
Georgia Peach -- do you know what time the photo of the Twins was taken at the Romantik Hotel U Raka? You posted it around 11am while the other pictures were posted at 9am?  I think all those photos around the Rudolfinum Concert Hall were taken near the 12:02 noontime as seen in the photo.
If you plot on a map from  the Hotel is a six minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall, and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop --- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 09:37:56 PM
I am praying the next place they go to is germany castles or tokyo japan, or africa.  :bunny

PS: this has to be one of the best first dates EVER (for jody) lol  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 09:43:09 PM
The new photo and information put the 4 teams in the front (Skiers, Lifeguards, Twins, Debaters) and 3 teams (Jody, Violinist, and mystery team) in the rear.  So Jody did slow the Violinist down due to being behind the pack.... :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 09:46:29 PM
Georgia Peach -- do you know what time the photo of the Twins was taken at the Romantik Hotel U Raka? You posted it around 11am while the other pictures were posted at 9am?  I think all those photos around the Rudolfinum Concert Hall were taken near the 12:02 noontime as seen in the photo.
If you plot on a map from  the Hotel is a six minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall, and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop --- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... 
No sorry. Without the photographer checking their times there is no way to tell.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 09:54:33 PM
I'm confused. Is the time stamp on Facebook based on my timezone or the poster's timezone?

The hotel picture was posted on Facebook at 7:38 AM. But is that my time or do I have to adjust for Prague?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 10:14:52 PM
I'm confused. Is the time stamp on Facebook based on my timezone or the poster's timezone?

The hotel picture was posted on Facebook at 7:38 AM. But is that my time or do I have to adjust for Prague?

Yours. See where it says "14 hours ago"? BUT that just means WHEN he posted, it's not a time stamp on the pic.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 10:31:17 PM
How does this picture approve anything?

The new photo and information put the 4 teams in the front (Skiers, Lifeguards, Twins, Debaters) and 3 teams (Jody, Violinist, and mystery team) in the rear.  So Jody did slow the Violinist down due to being behind the pack.... :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 10:48:06 PM
Previous photo shows the Skiers, Lifeguards, Debaters, & Twins together at that Clue table &
at the U-turn. I had doubt all day but this last photo & FB post gives answers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghmorello on October 12, 2017, 11:07:53 PM
So as it relates to the mystery team, I'm gonna guess it's the Indy 500 racers or the eaters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 12, 2017, 11:20:30 PM
Yes, no sightings of either teams in Prague have surfaced.
So as it relates to the mystery team, I'm gonna guess it's the Indy 500 racers or the eaters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 11:24:50 PM
Previous photo shows the Skiers, Lifeguards, Debaters, & Twins together at that Clue table &
at the U-turn. I had doubt all day but this last photo & FB post gives answers.
i would agree with this.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 13, 2017, 01:28:13 AM
so if there were only 3 clues left on the cluetable close to the uturn does that mean teams would know their current place when they were there by how many clues were left?

If so that is probably why Jody used it.. If they realized they were only ahead of 1 or 2 teams and knew the violinist were one of the ones behind them, they needed to do it to buy more time and make sure they didn't get last.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 13, 2017, 01:44:39 AM
so if there were only 3 clues left on the cluetable close to the uturn does that mean teams would know their current place when they were there by how many clues were left?

If so that is probably why Jody used it.. If they realized they were only ahead of 1 or 2 teams and knew the violinist were one of the ones behind them, they needed to do it to buy more time and make sure they didn't get last.

Teams make the U-Turn decision being taking and reading their clue :tup:

Considering the clue-table though... maybe it's behind the board?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 13, 2017, 01:51:53 AM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cool123 on October 13, 2017, 01:52:42 AM
Spotted in prague
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaLT97ulgsx/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 02:24:20 AM
How do we know it isnít arranged as Shawn and Cedric?

Conor and Alex could also be in trouble, if they arrange it Alex and Conor

But that is if they truly do it alphabetically all the time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 13, 2017, 02:29:56 AM
They don't arrange the team members' names alphabetically.  They arrange them based on what they think would roll off the tongue better, or sound better (at least most of the time).  For example, "Cody & Jessica" sounds phonetically better than "Jessica & Cody."  Also rolls off the tongue a lot more easily.  With Trevor & Chris, I think their names also sound better that way, and maybe the producers thought and decided that, too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 02:37:00 AM
I think how the teams are arranged at the starting line reflects their team names more

From Phil’s perspective, it would fit with the three names we see on the pictures

Henry and Evan
Cody and Jessica
Trevor and Chris

Contrstents arranged the same in photo and at Starting Line

If based off that, and if the alphabetical photos are correct (team who’s first member’s name comes first alphabetically is at the top) I’d be more nervous for Indy (standing as Alex and Conor at the Starting Line)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 13, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
Well, you learn something new everyday!

I didn't know 'Czech Republic' is now called 'Czsecia'
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 13, 2017, 07:34:30 AM
Well, you learn something new everyday!

I didn't know 'Czech Republic' is now called 'Czsecia'

I had to look it up to verify it. They did change the name officially to Czechia although Czech Republic has registered in the minds of the people.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: naejae91 on October 13, 2017, 07:35:12 AM

How do we know it isnít arranged as Shawn and Cedric?

Conor and Alex could also be in trouble, if they arrange it Alex and Conor

But that is if they truly do it alphabetically all the time
They don't arrange the team members' names alphabetically.  They arrange them based on what they think would roll off the tongue better, or sound better (at least most of the time).  For example, "Cody & Jessica" sounds phonetically better than "Jessica & Cody."  Also rolls off the tongue a lot more easily.  With Trevor & Chris, I think their names also sound better that way, and maybe the producers thought and decided that, too.


I remember I saw a list was leaked somewhere here that show how the teammate was arranged but I can't find it anymore.


Edit: Can't find the list anymore, but I remember the teammate was arranged exactly like the list below:

1-  Alex Rossi/Conor Daly (M/M) Indy 500 Winners (Blue)
2-  Lucas Bocanegra/Brittany Austin (M/F) LifeGuard Couple (Lime Green)
3-  April Gould/Sarah Williams (F/F) (Bright Blue)
4-  Shawn Marion/Cedric Ceballos(M/M) NBA Stars (??Purple??)
5-  Cody Nickson/Jessica Graf(M/F) Big Brother Couple (Khaki Green)
6-  Trevor Wadleigh/Christopher Marchant (M/M) Violinists with WellStrung (Black)
7-  Henry Zhang/Evan Lynyak(M/F) Yale National Debate Champs-Couple (??)
8- Jen Hudak/Kristi Leskinen  (F/F) National Ski Champs (Pink)
9-  Eric/Daniel Guiffreda (M/M) Twin Firefighter EMT's (??)
10- Kayla Fitzgerald and Dessie Mitcheson (F/F) "Ring Girls" (Red)
11- Joey Chestnut/Tim Janus (M/M)  National Eating Champs (Kelly Green)

Our sighted F7 teams in alphabetical order might be:

Alex & Conor (If they're the mystery team)
Cody & Jessica
Eric & Daniel
Henry & Evan
Jen & Kristi
Joey & Tim (If they're the mystery team)
Lucas & Brittany
Trevor & Chris
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 13, 2017, 07:54:43 AM
The new photo and information put the 4 teams in the front (Skiers, Lifeguards, Twins, Debaters) and 3 teams (Jody, Violinist, and mystery team) in the rear.  So Jody did slow the Violinist down due to being behind the pack.... :groan:

I wonder who the mystery team is. I think it could only be either the Indy 500 Racers or the Competitive Eaters. Shawn Marion was seen in Rome without a backpack, without Cedric Ceballos nor a camera crew, I'd assume they're eliminated already.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 07:56:58 AM
Please search Prague airport  for sightings before noon today...STAT! Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 08:58:39 AM
^ Eastern Standard Time or Central Europe Time?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 09:06:42 AM
Departure Prague time.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: naejae91 on October 13, 2017, 09:35:01 AM
^ Eastern Standard Time or Central Europe Time?
Central Europe Time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 13, 2017, 10:59:27 AM
Interestingly enough, the person who posted the pic with all 7 clues (WhitmoorCCSuper), posted pictures of JODY and the Violinists. (Posted at the same time) Yet now we are thinking they were behind at least 4 other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 13, 2017, 11:10:23 AM
Sorry if this is wrong place to post.  I was thinking the same thing.  If you look at the times and the picture with Jody where there is a clock it looks like they may have been minutes apart.  Something still seems off to me.  The picture with the skiers in the background near the uturn by themselves is really throwing me off, where did the other 3 teams go??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 13, 2017, 11:24:53 AM
I find it very hard to believe all those teams that wer behind jody and the violienists got in front of them. without help atleast.

maybe it is a new twist and another team won it and put them in the bottom or something.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 13, 2017, 11:34:02 AM
teams go from first to last all the time during seasons. its normal
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 13, 2017, 11:35:19 AM
teams go from first to last all the time during seasons. its normal

Exactly. The two groups could have chosen different detours and one group finished quicker than the others. Or couldn't find the cluebox. Or got lost. Or bad cab. Anything can trip up teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 11:36:03 AM
Interestingly enough, the person who posted the pic with all 7 clues (WhitmoorCCSuper), posted pictures of JODY and the Violinists. (Posted at the same time) Yet now we are thinking they were behind at least 4 other teams.

Can you expand on this? Not sure I am getting it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:44:39 AM
Behind just means as to who got the clues first.  I think it's obvious that all the teams where the area at the same time.  Jody and the Violinist were not that far behind.  Question is, was the mystery team late start or what? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:52:03 AM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
That guy has glasses on--that photo is of Yale Team (debaters)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 13, 2017, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Cpt.Carnage
Got some more shots here : https://www.instagram.com/p/BaJ5rJ_AmaK/
Nice! :tup: Then Letenskż profil (https://goo.gl/maps/i9J1kbfSaDK2) is the pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:56:00 AM
Sorry if this is wrong place to post.  I was thinking the same thing.  If you look at the times and the picture with Jody where there is a clock it looks like they may have been minutes apart.  Something still seems off to me.  The picture with the skiers in the background near the uturn by themselves is really throwing me off, where did the other 3 teams go??

I think the Skiers were racing everyone to the clue table and blew past the U=turn at that point.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
I find it very hard to believe all those teams that wer behind jody and the violienists got in front of them. without help atleast.

maybe it is a new twist and another team won it and put them in the bottom or something.

If you plot on a map from the Hotel it's a six-minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall (the clue table and U-turn), and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop (Letenske Schody)--- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... Everything was relatively close so it was prolly a matter of minutes between the teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 13, 2017, 12:01:16 PM
I find it very hard to believe all those teams that wer behind jody and the violienists got in front of them. without help atleast.

maybe it is a new twist and another team won it and put them in the bottom or something.

If you plot on a map from the Hotel it's a six-minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall (the clue table and U-turn), and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop --- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... Everything was relatively close so it was prolly a matter of minutes between the teams.

But you have to factor in the tasks. That could set a team apart by hours
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:02:24 PM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
That guy has glasses on--that photo is of Yale Team (debaters)

Height difference is wrong for debaters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:03:32 PM
Let's all be on the alert for sightings please! Today SHOULD be a travel day unless this is an extended PitStop!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 13, 2017, 12:14:32 PM
Interestingly enough, the person who posted the pic with all 7 clues (WhitmoorCCSuper), posted pictures of JODY and the Violinists. (Posted at the same time) Yet now we are thinking they were behind at least 4 other teams.

Can you expand on this? Not sure I am getting it.

WhitmoorCCGrounds (@WhitmoorCCSuper) posted two sets of photos around the same time (9:08 and 9:09) on 12 Oct. (This may have been just after noon, Prague Time, I'm going by what I see on the twitter pics)
His pictures include a picture of all seven clues still on the pedestal.  They also include a picture of Phil, somewhere nearby and a picture of the skiers behind the hedge by the U-turn (In the first pics - 9:08 tag).
The other set of pics (9:09 tag) show Cody and Jess and the Violinists on the streets interacting with passersby.  One of the Jody pics is in front of the same building we see in the clock photo.

It's just interesting that this photographer only caught 3 of the teams, and they were not bunched the way we see them in other photos.

As has been mentioned, these pics, even though they include the U-Turn, may have been before the teams encountered the Detour.  If the skiers and others completed the Detour more quickly than Jody this would explain how the group of 4 teams got a bit of a lead.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NMC on October 13, 2017, 12:18:03 PM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
That guy has glasses on--that photo is of Yale Team (debaters)

Height difference is wrong for debaters.

This just leaves it to be the Lifeguards then?  ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:30:25 PM
These are from my start line pics, teams are standing.
Don't we have confirmation that JODY Uturned ?? ???
Not sure why the confusion, but maybe missing something.

Looks like JODY to me.



Lol if you are worrying about this you are NOT searching for sightings...and that's what we need more today/tonight.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 12:33:17 PM
So itís not Henry and Evan on that courtesy of on the ground in the first/smaller crop?

Though we canít make out the faces per se, the heights and background def look different than the one of Cody and Jessica

Also the hats look dark, as opposed to the bright yellow of the lifeguards hats

It doesnít look like a M/M or F/F team either

I still think that other one is Henry and Evan- the heights in that photo donít seem too dissimilar from their height at the Starting Line
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
This is the Yale Debater.  He is infront of a chalkboard. Hope enlargement helps.  I could not post my other two enlargements but he has glasses on and he is def the Guy debater.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 13, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
Iím conpletely lost sorry. Whatís the significance of figuring out that picture on the floor?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 13, 2017, 12:45:13 PM
Iím conpletely lost sorry. Whatís the significance of figuring out that picture on the floor?
I'm not sure there is any. We have positively identified six of the teams that made it to Prague.  Unless we get info on the 7th team, we really should take Peach's advice and look forward.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 13, 2017, 12:47:50 PM
Who knows it could be a close race.. The person who took the pictures of the 4 teams that are grouped together around the detour is also the same one who took the pictures of Jody arriving there and uturing the violinists correct?

So unless both these sources are sticking around for hours they seem to all be around the same general area and there could be only minutes seperating them.   

Defeintly not uncommon for a bunch of teams to be doing detours together.

All we know is Jody detoured the violinists so in order for them to do that they had to feel there was at least a chance that the violinists were behind them. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
Picture on the floor is immaterial....Only thing that matters is pic on the board.

Yeah...peach is pooped.

Y'all go searching please?? :please:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
I have a question Peach, if the team get a mat or pitstop, does that mean they go back to the hotel and rest? we kinda know the hotel they stayed at the night before, has anyone talked to that hotel? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
No sweetie. That hotel was a pick up a clue only, don't believe they stayed there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
For locations of direct flights out of Prague, if we're thinking they left this morning, I saw:
Kiev
Warsaw
Belgrade
Budapest
Riga
Moscow
St. Petersburg
Istanbul
Dubai
Tel-Aviv *fingers crossed*

Unless they went West for one of the European hubs- but that seems unlikely with a few good hubs in/to the middle east, and a descent amount of places in Eastern Europe/Middle East direct

Maybe searching around in some of these cities may be fruitful?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 01:29:07 PM
I can vouch there were no teams in Tel- Aviv today.  :sab

Let's focus on trains for now.  Look for train/bus station sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 13, 2017, 06:12:19 PM
Are teams racing right now, or is it an extended Pit Stop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 06:15:25 PM
Who knows??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 13, 2017, 08:15:09 PM
Wonder which side of the Detour the U-Turn was on, before like last season, or after where it should be. With so many of them crowded there at the same time, I'm inclined to guess before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 13, 2017, 09:20:23 PM
Turkey would really make sense to me. It's a great connector before heading deep into Asia.
But that 1 tweet doesn't really convince me, could it just be a reference to some local event? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 13, 2017, 09:22:46 PM
Turkey would really make sense to me. It's a great connector before heading deep into Asia.
But that 1 tweet doesn't really convince me, could it just be a reference to some local event? ???

Probably this could be a local race and could not be us. Maybe teams having an extended pit stop in Prague before heading to the next destination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 13, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
Turkey would be a good location for a leg!

But as Marionete said, we need more than 1 tweet to believe this is not a fake...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZouLy on October 13, 2017, 09:32:44 PM

Turkey would really make sense to me. It's a great connector before heading deep into Asia.
But that 1 tweet doesn't really convince me, could it just be a reference to some local event? ???

Turkey would be a good location for a leg!

But as Marionete said, we need more than 1 tweet to believe this is not a fake...


indeed, it's still unproven enough, as far as i zoom in the picture I can't see any race-related stuff, but well just to give a little bump and teams are on-route to the east hopefully... :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on Octobe