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Title: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on September 30, 2017, 10:10:37 AM
This thread is the WORKZONE of our spoilers.
 
This is where ALL the spoiler speculation/discussion of the TAR 30 race goes, NOT in the LIVE thread. It is where we try to thrash out what the LIVE sightings mean.

 
 
Please use the LIVE START thread for all posts from there.

Once teams head to the airport, please use the LIVE SIGHTINGS Thread for sightings

ALL Discussion of the Spoilers and Sightings GO HERE!   :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 01, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

- Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating & Former Big Brother
- Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
- Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Friends & Former NBA Players
- April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Friends & Goat Yoga Instructors
- Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
- M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian.
- M/M in black and grey.
- M/F in 'Y' caps, male is Asian-American.
- F/F in pink.
- M/M bald in plaid.
- F/F younger in red.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WorldTraveler on October 01, 2017, 02:48:09 PM
Wonder where they will be going in Iceland. Jokulsarlon is beautiful, but was used the last time they went there. Icelandic hot dogs, as well as shark and Brennevin could also be featured.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TheRabbi on October 01, 2017, 03:23:53 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

- Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating & Former Big Brother
- Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
- Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Friends & Former NBA Players
- April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Friends & Goat Yoga Instructors
- Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
- M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian.
- M/M in black and grey.
- M/F in 'Y' caps, male is Asian-American.
- F/F in pink.
- M/M bald in plaid.
- F/F younger in red.

The red team I think I heard Phil say Kelsee and Kayla?
The Yale caps I think were named Henry and Evan (Evelyn?)

That's all I got. Phil didn't speak very loud.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 01, 2017, 03:27:06 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

- Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating & Former Big Brother
- Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
- Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Friends & Former NBA Players
- April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Friends & Goat Yoga Instructors
- Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
- M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian.
- M/M in black and grey.
- M/F in 'Y' caps, male is Asian-American.
- F/F in pink.
- M/M bald in plaid.
- F/F younger in red.

The red team I think I heard Phil say Kelsee and Kayla?
The Yale caps I think were named Henry and Evan (Evelyn?)

That's all I got. Phil didn't speak very loud.

Kelsey Wells and Kayla Itsines???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on October 01, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
So we have some slight celebrities after all. Not a full cast of everyday teams, nor do we have older contestants, nor do we have teams that are not as in shape (as I noticed nearly everyone on 29 was uber-fit, when did that become mandatory?).

On the bright side, at least the teams all have a pre-determined relationship...

(1.) - Alexander (26) & Conor (25) - Friends & IndyCar Drivers
(3.) - April (40) & Sarah (40s) - Goat Yoga Moms
(4.) - Cedric (48) & Shawn (39) - Former NBA Players
(5.) - Cody (32) & Jessica (26) - Newly Dating
(6.) - Trevor & Christopher - Violinists
(7.) - Henry (20s) & Evan (20s) - Friends/Debate Champions
(10.) - Kelsey (20s) & Kayla (20s) - Fitness Models
(11.) - Joey (33) & Tim (40) - Competitive Eaters

Still to confirm:
(2.) - M/F in fluro and light green, female may be Indian. Lifeguards?
(8.) - F/F in pink. Skiers.
(9.) - M/M bald in plaid. Army Vets/Twins?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NMC on October 01, 2017, 03:55:18 PM
Being from Ireland, I was praying for a Dublin start.  :(  On the bright side, ICELAND!!! Woooohoooo!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on October 01, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
How possible would it be for the teams to be racing under the northern lights? Sorry I posted in wrong thread before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 01, 2017, 04:11:03 PM
A Justin & Diana reference? That's where they got engaged, remember :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WorldTraveler on October 01, 2017, 04:12:14 PM
How possible would it be for the teams to be racing under the northern lights? Sorry I posted in wrong thread before.

It's possible, but no guarantee. Also, they aren't extremely bright, so it would be hard to get them on camera. I feel like most of the time, racers finish the legs in daylight too. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 01, 2017, 04:45:53 PM
Iceland? Great! I remember that leg in Iceland in s6 was pretty good. Possible ice climbing on a glaciers.

So, possible routing: Europe->Africa->Europe->Asia->Australia?->S. America?->USA
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 01, 2017, 04:53:27 PM
Iceland? Great! I remember that leg in Iceland in s6 was pretty good. Possible ice climbing on a glaciers.

So, possible routing: Europe->Africa->Europe->Asia->Australia?->S. America?->USA

At least there would be never having another South America leg after having four consecutive seasons in a row. Let's start for Europe -> Africa -> Asia -> Oceania -> USA route.

Fingers crossed for a 5-continent, 10 country and a near 40,000 mile race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 01, 2017, 05:41:42 PM
ICELAND WHAT A GREAT FIRST LOCATION!!!  :conf:

You've gotta love seeing a underused country on the Race!

Shame about Ireland though. Maybe next leg!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 01, 2017, 05:44:35 PM
ICELAND WHAT A GREAT FIRST LOCATION!!!  :conf:

You've gotta love seeing a underused country on the Race!

Shame about Ireland though. Maybe next leg!

Pray for Latvia in the next leg. The only Baltic country never visited in TAR franchise and it is way long overdue since the start of HD era.

There are a flights to Riga from Reykjavik-Keflavik with a stop at either Oslo/Copenhagen/Stockholm.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 01, 2017, 05:57:09 PM
I hope Denmark, Belgium, Australia get visited
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: coolhand12 on October 01, 2017, 06:05:29 PM
They were seen in terminal 7 and this is what I assume is the flight they will be taking
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 01, 2017, 06:11:14 PM
With Iceland as first leg, I suspect another Northern Europe country as next,  probably Sweden or Finland, before they go on the Baltic (Latvia)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 01, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
So this is the first stop when they get there, Geitárgljúfur (Source: http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/u/fQYSUbVfts-T7odkrFJckdiFeHvab0GWOfzhj7tYdC0uglagsDcWimYfrc9eEvsmOcsALamOBLLjviNCKpFhiZrXVBC_Rj6uFPLXMgNU3AB9En-LUp8hd0j-Aam-M3bxsShHhkkPMYPP2yDM9JNbkFfyntMzAn4ykVUxTSkQEyiNP1QsuoysYv8guWnusl0_evUUywAUxQgkW2JaGuuKdQ7qhnM/)

That's the thing about Iceland. It's got some cool almost unearthly landscapes in places.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 01, 2017, 07:21:33 PM
Wonder if they'll have an overnight rest like the first Iceland visit?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 01, 2017, 07:25:40 PM
Probably not, with a 2h30 driving time they'd arrive at around 9:30am!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 01, 2017, 07:46:10 PM
Good news: second flight's gate was right near mine!

Bad news: didn't make it in time to have good interaction with teams  :groan:

100% on the second flight:
Pro Eaters (Green M/M)
Violinists (Black M/M)
Boxers (Red F/F)

Apparently Basketball was the other team, but I didn't see them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 01, 2017, 08:00:12 PM
The second flight is expected to take off 10 minutes early at 8:55pm and the first flight is now expected to take off at 9:06pm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 01, 2017, 11:18:14 PM
I hope the teams buy good road maps with their remaining cash (cab fare (http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/passenger/taxicab_rate.shtml#AirportTrips) will eat most of the $85). The directions in the Additional Information are not very good (here are driving instructions (https://intotheglacier.is/driving-instructions-husafell/) from a Húsafell tourist attraction; the route is not intuitive and the road signs aren't much help).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 01, 2017, 11:38:05 PM
Pretty sure it is a self driving leg? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 01, 2017, 11:40:49 PM
Pretty sure it is a self driving leg? ???

I think he means the taxi fare from the park to the airport Peach
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 12:11:12 AM
1 hour until the first flight lands!!! Woo :)

Will we have anyone there in Iceland that will see the race unfolding?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 02, 2017, 12:57:53 AM
The additional information says that there'll be more money in the cars at Reykjavik (probably in krona), so that might be able to cover a map once they arrive?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 02, 2017, 01:08:52 AM
The first flight has now landed!  :conf:

The second flight is about 20 minutes behind.

How long is the drive to the canyon? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 01:11:11 AM
A little over 2 hours it seems
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 02, 2017, 02:30:22 AM
The first flight has now landed!  :conf:

The second flight is about 20 minutes behind.

How long is the drive to the canyon? ???

By first flight do you mean the one with 6 teams on it?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 02, 2017, 06:47:05 AM
The additional information says that there'll be more money in the cars at Reykjavik (probably in krona), so that might be able to cover a map once they arrive?

im sorry, im quite confuse about this....they received 85 $ at the starting line, so production took all the money after they pay their taxi and give them back in Iceland or they are receiving more than just 85 bucks on the entire leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 07:50:26 AM
The Delta flight with #Basketball #RingGirls #Violinists #HotDogEaters landed about 20-30 minutes after the Iceland Air flight

According to pictures , the teams on Iceland Air were #Jody #YogaMoms #MasterDebaters #Skiers #Indy500.

I’m unsure of which flight #Lifeguards and #EMTs are on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 02, 2017, 09:43:37 AM
The Delta flight with #Basketball #RingGirls #Violinists #HotDogEaters landed about 20-30 minutes after the Iceland Air flight

According to pictures , the teams on Iceland Air were #Jody #YogaMoms #MasterDebaters #Skiers #Indy500.

I’m unsure of which flight #Lifeguards and #EMTs are on.


There's one photo in the lives where they are queueing at a counter #Lifeguards are on the 1st flight along with #Jody #YogaMoms #MasterDebaters #Skiers #Indy500. Encircled them.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 02, 2017, 10:09:13 AM
They look different with coats on and “yellow pikachu hats???” On their bag??

And maybe the EMTs are the team at the back with coats on now

 :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 02, 2017, 10:20:53 AM
They look different with coats on and “yellow pikachu hats???” On their bag??

And maybe the EMTs are the team at the back with coats on now

 :groan:


Upon closer look, it does somehow look like Pikachu Hats because the hats have triangular ears. Not sure with the EMT's though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 12:26:03 PM
I have a feeling that the next leg may be in Iceland. Obviously we don't know everything but there seems to be many Reykjavik based tasks, They would probably want to focus on the other aspects of Iceland.

If not it's probably going to be another European leg, Ireland, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland & Prague are most likely i'd say.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: graytex on October 02, 2017, 12:44:40 PM
Seems like they are going for an athletic themed season.  Everyone is involved in a sport, or in an activity that could be loosely considered competitive, and it seems the greeter at the first pit stop is an athlete, as well as the "Icelandic strongmen" that were seen.  If this is true, it might help in future speculation of locations/activities.  Maybe they will head to some Olympic sites?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 02, 2017, 02:52:12 PM
The strongman/Thor's Power stop was here (https://goo.gl/maps/HVk51S7nduy)--at Ingolfur Square.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 02, 2017, 04:19:07 PM
Looking at flights out of Reykjavik tomorrow, main cities I'm seeing with multiple flights:

Frankfurt: 6:00, 7:25, 14:35 (2:35p)
Paris CDG: 6:00, 7:40, 15:20 (3:20p)
Copenhagen: 6:30, 7:45, 10:30, 13:00 (1:00p)
Amsterdam: 6:00, 7:40, 15:10 (3:10p)
London (Gatwick): 6:10, 7:45, 15:30 (3:30p)
London (Heathrow): 7:40, 16:10 (4:10p)
Oslo: 7:50, 11:40, 12:10
Helsinki: 7:30, 18:00 (6:00p)

These are just the direct flights from KEF, when looking up the departure schedule

I personally like the look of Copenhagen, but that's just me
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 04:33:46 PM
Remember teams probably can't fly WOW AIR as it's a budget airline who restrict hand baggage like Easyjet and Ryanair.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 02, 2017, 04:34:08 PM
Copenhagen or Helsinki would be amazing!
Though it's hard to guess, as they could easily make a connection in any of those, or other cities.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 02, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Finland would be terrific. They've never done a Pit Stop there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 02, 2017, 04:44:12 PM
Personally, I would like to see Helsinki, but knowing TAR, they'll probably go to London :res:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
Tomorrow there are two flights to Helsinki.

Icelandair; 7:30 --> 13:50

Finnair: 18:00 --> 00:30

So the Finnair flight works perfectly.

But remember that SAS & Lufthansa operate flights to Oslo, Stockholm, CPH & Frankfurt that could take teams anywhere in Europe along with all Icelandair destinations;

London Heathrow
London Gatwick
Manchester
Belfast
Glasgow
Amsterdam
Brussels
Paris
Frankfurt
Munich
Copenhagen
Oslo
Bergen
Stockholm
Helsinki
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazedArrow on October 02, 2017, 04:49:14 PM
I wish next stop is Spain, but I don't think so, last one was on S24, and we only had 2 others oficially (with tasks, I don't count TAR 3 as a visit). Madrid or Bilbao would be a good choice.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 04:50:26 PM
Personally, I would like to see Helsinki, but knowing TAR, they'll probably go to London :res:

London is actually quite undervisited, I may be biased being a Londoner but think about it.

They did a leg in S7 and only a detour in S25. That's it, so London would be nice to have also it's not raining tomorrow or the day after  :funny: not to mention it's the best city in the world. SorryNotSorry
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 02, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
Personally, I would like to see Helsinki, but knowing TAR, they'll probably go to London :res:

London is actually quite undervisited, I may be biased being a Londoner but think about it.

They did a leg in S7 and only a detour in S25. That's it, so London would be nice to have also it's not raining tomorrow or the day after  :funny: not to mention it's the best city in the world. SorryNotSorry

Just England in general is overused. And they ALWAYS to go to London airports for stopovers! And mate, we all know what the best city is...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 02, 2017, 05:04:13 PM
Forget overused countries and let's move on with some new European countries...

Latvia
Slovakia
Belarus
Bulgaria
Serbia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Slovenia

The next leg would be in Latvia and would be the first TAR appearance of that country. For flights to Riga, the possible departures from Keflavik Airport to Riga:

(https://i.imgur.com/cIg6yeE.png)

(https://imgur.com/775gLrr.png)

(https://imgur.com/flH8Qg5.png)

Phil and the production's flight:

AB3547 KEF-TXL 0040-0605 -> BT212 TXL-RIX 0920-1200
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 02, 2017, 06:11:05 PM
I doubt there will be any new European country in next leg since they are in Iceland, unless they make some crazy connections (eg. s12 Lithuania to Croatia leg) which I doubt.

I think that next leg will be in Brussels, Belgium since there's direct flight, and Belgium is not visited in like 11 seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 06:18:04 PM
I doubt there will be any new European country in next leg since they are in Iceland, unless they make some crazy connections (eg. s12 Lithuania to Croatia leg) which I doubt.

I think that next leg will be in Brussels, Belgium since there's direct flight, and Belgium is not visited in like 11 seasons.

I never thought of Belgium. That sounds like a reasonable idea but I would prefer Bruges.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 02, 2017, 06:24:02 PM
I doubt there will be any new European country in next leg since they are in Iceland, unless they make some crazy connections (eg. s12 Lithuania to Croatia leg) which I doubt.

I think that next leg will be in Brussels, Belgium since there's direct flight, and Belgium is not visited in like 11 seasons.

I never thought of Belgium. That sounds like a reasonable idea but I would prefer Bruges.

Bruges is very reasonable to get to from Brussels- just about an hour via train
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 02, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
Based on Jgilpat1's Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwNI9Injt2/?taken-by=jl.gilpatrick) the Pit Stop was in front of the Iðnó Theatre on Lake Tjörnin (https://www.google.com/maps/place/I%C3%B0n%C3%B3/@64.1457652,-21.9404355,16.79z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x644f18a959fdc764!8m2!3d64.1458232!4d-21.9400124).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 02, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
Looking at possible connections, Luxembourg could be brend new European country...

(https://i.snag.gy/1YNs5E.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 02, 2017, 06:36:21 PM
If production were thinking about going to Luxembourg, why not go to Germany which is cheaper, easier to produce since they've been there before, has similar visuals, and is easier to get into and out of especially if they're going to Africa somewhere farfetched on leg 3?

The Black Forest would be nice this time of year  :colors

eta: SPEC for Germany

Phil:
AB 3547 KEF TXL 0040 0605
AB 6577 TXL FRA 0850 1005 (though legitimately Phil can get to every major Germany city by 1030)

teams:
LH 857 KEF FRA 1435 2005, and then they can take a train or drive to wherever overnight and start leg 2 on Oct 4.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 02, 2017, 07:23:37 PM
I feel like Copenhagen is the best guess for the next leg (although I wouldnt be dissappinted with England, Belgium, or Finland either) plus there are some flights to Riga, Latvia which is where most of us would love to see get visited
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 02, 2017, 07:33:29 PM
I love Copenhagen but it was only visited in S25 and S19, I would prefer Stockholm as we haven't properly had a leg there since S6. I went in October last year and it's lovely this time of year.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 02, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
Can't rule out the possibility of a Zurich revisit.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 02, 2017, 10:21:47 PM
If production were thinking about going to Luxembourg, why not go to Germany which is cheaper, easier to produce since they've been there before, has similar visuals, and is easier to get into and out of especially if they're going to Africa somewhere farfetched on leg 3?

The Black Forest would be nice this time of year  :colors

eta: SPEC for Germany

Phil:
AB 3547 KEF TXL 0040 0605
AB 6577 TXL FRA 0850 1005 (though legitimately Phil can get to every major Germany city by 1030)

teams:
LH 857 KEF FRA 1435 2005, and then they can take a train or drive to wherever overnight and start leg 2 on Oct 4.

At least Germany is overused and has going to rule out with OVERUSED countries visited in recent seasons. I expect Spain to be visited in leg 3, the only safe place to visit that country is Madrid.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 02, 2017, 11:06:13 PM
May I offer a different opinion? Since production usually reserves the bounce boards for the pit stop, I'm thinking it might be in a secluded spot of Hljómskálagarður park (photos below--zoomed-in source here (https://goo.gl/maps/GAAeWgqMLH52) and a close-up here (https://goo.gl/maps/kh31WPtav8p)).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 02, 2017, 11:17:05 PM
If Luxembourg were visited, it's a tiny country, but I'm fortunate enough to know a guy there I could ask to help :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 02, 2017, 11:29:52 PM
Okay guys. Love your enthusiasm BUT:

This is the workzone for our speculation on spoilers. Y'all's enthusiasm is making finding actual info and valuable speculation hard to find.

It is not where you post wishlists for locations or anything else.

All comments here should be ONLY about the spoilers and any LOGICAL info about what may come next.

I am moving everything else to another thread. Help me out here please and keep this tightly focused? Thanks!!


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 03, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Hmm Slowhatch could it be for the post-leg interviews?
You can see the mat being rolled out in front of the Iðnó Theatre...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jgilpat1 on October 03, 2017, 05:17:16 AM
Hey everyone. I stopped by the pit stop this morning just to check things out. Teams were still there. It was 745 am local time -- well past the 12 hours since checkin. Any idea why that might be the case? Could it play into where they go next?

We saw Jess and Cody from a distance doing interviews. Saw debaters mulling about and one of the male-male teams also doing interviews. Either violinists or Indy car. I'm sorry I have trouble telling them apart.

We were right next to their interview spot. I posted a pic to instagram (jl.gilpatrick). Heard them say they were leaving today in 4th place. 100% sure.

Sorry if I'm not posting in the right spot. Don't mean to muck things up but wifi is spotty and I'm just trying to get it all out.

EDIT: I glanced at the team photos again and the team I saw today was definitely the violinists. They came in 4th on leg #1.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: HavaDrPepper on October 03, 2017, 05:28:48 AM
Hey everyone. I stopped by the pit stop this morning just to check things out. Teams were still there. It was 745 am local time -- well past the 12 hours since checkin. Any idea why that might be the case? Could it play into where they go next?

We saw Jess and Cody from a distance doing interviews. Saw debaters mulling about and one of the male-male teams also doing interviews. Either violinists or Indy car. I'm sorry I have trouble telling them apart.

We were right next to their interview spot. I posted a pic to instagram (jl.gilpatrick). Heard them say they were leaving today in 4th place. 100% sure.

Sorry if I'm not posting in the right spot. Don't mean to muck things up but wifi is spotty and I'm just trying to get it all out.

EDIT: I glanced at the team photos again and the team I saw today was definitely the violinists. They came in 4th on leg #1.

Could this have been an 18 hour rest period? I also think your photo is the violinists but hard to tell.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: maf on October 03, 2017, 05:38:14 AM
It has been many seasons since they abandoned the standardized 12h rest period. Nowadays the rest period is as long as production wants. I get a feeling that the things which determines the length is which transport they are going to take during the next leg. They try to avoid having one team getting on an earlier flight which arrives hours ahead of the others.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 08:29:13 AM
For teams heading to AMS, at least one lucky team will prob. be on Wow airlines - WW 446 KEFAMS 1510 2030
But space is really tight on all the flights out of KEF today, so I would expect lots of different connecting flights, most of which will give them a forced overnight and have them arriving into AMS tomorrow morning between 7-10am.  Two seats are available on lots of flights, but not 4 per team, so unless production has blocked some flights, this could get interesting.  More than half the flights departing today are completely sold out already.
Iceland has been such a popular destination over the past few years that air seats are always at a premium. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 03, 2017, 08:42:09 AM
At least there could be train from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport to Antwerp, Belgium that would arrive by 11:15 pm. Just like the teams did ride a train from Brussels to Amsterdam Airport in TAR 19.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 03, 2017, 08:45:40 AM
Any sign of team Indy?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: greenteapls on October 03, 2017, 09:18:50 AM
How do we know that Amsterdam is the location? As they were spotted at the airport 2 hours ago. Icelandair flight to Copehangen left 13:00 Iceland time (1 hour ago). Would The Amazing Race take a crappy discount airline flight (Wow Airlines) to Amsterdam?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 03, 2017, 09:21:04 AM
How do we know that Amsterdam is the location? As they were spotted at the airport 2 hours ago. Icelandair flight to Copehangen left 13:00 Iceland time (1 hour ago). Would The Amazing Race take a crappy discount airline flight (Wow Airlines) to Amsterdam?

We don't really until we see them doing tasks.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 03, 2017, 10:00:55 AM
In one of the pictures at the airport, it looks like they are taking WOW Airlines because the plane is purple. The WOW flight leaves at 3:10pm local time and landed 8:30pm local time. The flight number is 466 .
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
So that means they'll touch down in AMS at 830pm.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 10:05:43 AM
Unless they are sitting there as a distraction.... Odd to be using ONE flight on a NOT usual airline. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 10:07:07 AM
WW is a major player in the Iceland Air industry, WOW and Icelandair are the majority of their convenient flights, so the airline is new, but it's not a small, low cost one like an Easyjet or anything like that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 03, 2017, 10:11:38 AM
Unless they are sitting there as a distraction.... Odd to be using ONE flight on a NOT usual airline. ???

In case WOW is ruled out, only London is left in sooner European flights.

(https://i.snag.gy/g0cOBE.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 10:15:47 AM
WW is a major player in the Iceland Air industry, WOW and Icelandair are the majority of their convenient flights, so the airline is new, but it's not a small, low cost one like an Easyjet or anything like that.


Okay, that helps! And looks like too limited flight options to have 2 groups?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jesscahc on October 03, 2017, 10:34:28 AM
I think the teams had been at the airport for a long time. I overheard the Yale debaters say “they had exhausted all their options” re things to see/sit in the airport as they walked to the gate area. also the two major airlines here are both not usual: Icelandair and WOWair.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 03, 2017, 10:35:17 AM
Hey everyone, hope I'm in the right thread - I see some posts here and on reddit about TAR flying to Amsterdam tonight. Some users have mentioned that the flight will arrive 20.30 local time (CEST) but the airport website says its landing at 19.50 instead.

In case I go the the airport (I'd have to leave in 40 minutes) - what are the odds I can see some teams and gain some info? Furthermore, would it be appreciated if I look into flights or trains leaving after 19.50 or has that been covered already?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 03, 2017, 10:37:52 AM
Hey everyone, hope I'm in the right thread - I see some posts here and on reddit about TAR flying to Amsterdam tonight. Some users have mentioned that the flight will arrive 20.30 local time (CEST) but the airport website says its landing at 19.50 instead.

In case I go the the airport (I'd have to leave in 40 minutes) - what are the odds I can see some teams and gain some info? Furthermore, would it be appreciated if I look into flights or trains leaving after 19.50 or has that been covered already?

Thanks a lot!


Hi and welcome to RFF! :conf: These are some good leads. If you do find info, please do feel free to post it here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 03, 2017, 10:38:24 AM
Do we know if ALL teams are on that flight to AMS, or just some?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 03, 2017, 10:39:16 AM
Looks like Team Indy is still in the running

(https://i.imgur.com/QwxPPhh.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jesscahc on October 03, 2017, 10:47:36 AM
Because I did not stay and watch them board, it is possible that they were waiting to clear passport control to go down to D gates.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 03, 2017, 10:48:53 AM
Okay then! Hopping on a bus in about 45 minutes... Should be there at 19.22 with the flight arriving at 19.45. Phone fully charged so I will try and keep you updated. Would you recommend I post pictures or information here or send it to someone first? (If I get anything at all that is!)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 03, 2017, 10:49:43 AM
What is the flight  number?
Because I did not stay and watch them board, it is possible that they were waiting to clear passport control to go down to D gates.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 03, 2017, 10:50:36 AM
Okay then! Hopping on a bus in about 45 minutes... Should be there at 19.22 with the flight arriving at 19.45. Phone fully charged so I will try and keep you updated. Would you recommend I post pictures or information here or send it to someone first? (If I get anything at all that is!)

You could either post the pictures here by using the attachments part. If you do encounter a problem you could send it to our amazing moderator, georgiapeach.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 03, 2017, 11:06:05 AM
flight   WW 446 is now due at 19.59
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 11:16:26 AM
Okay then! Hopping on a bus in about 45 minutes... Should be there at 19.22 with the flight arriving at 19.45. Phone fully charged so I will try and keep you updated. Would you recommend I post pictures or information here or send it to someone first? (If I get anything at all that is!)

Send them to me first . Messaging you now...let's take this to messages.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 11:26:56 AM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 03, 2017, 11:41:32 AM
So are all the teams on the same flight?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 03, 2017, 11:44:27 AM
It's the only flight that will get them into AMS tonight, so anyone who isn't is a day behind.

And the flight was showing as fully sold out before they departed, so I have more than a sneaking suspicion that production was holding a block of seats to ensure they all got on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 11:46:58 AM
And we are sure they are on this flight to Amsterdam? And we are sure it’s not just a connection?

Seems kinda late at night to start doing tasks for a leg, no?


Wish we had a pic of their clue (like we did for their rote info to Reykjavic)

EDIT : duh . I completely forgot about HOurs of Operation type tasks and stuff like that. Nvm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
Our teams are landing in 15 minutes!!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
Teams have safely landed into Schipol  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 01:09:25 PM
I’m gonna check Snap Map to see if theres anything
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: oscarc74 on October 03, 2017, 01:15:09 PM
So which flight are they on then
The only flight I see landing from Reykjavik is WOW Air 446 at 8:08 PM (Netherlands time).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 01:35:01 PM
There will be a lot of people that are familiar with the Amazing Race in Amsterdam. I’m hoping we will have a lot of insight/media for this leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 03, 2017, 01:45:31 PM
Amsterdam, confirmed


(https://i.imgur.com/TlVpGDk.png)

Credit to: Gruicrouzet (https://www.instagram.com/guicrouzet/)

EDIT: Oops, wrong section, maybe it should go to live sightings
EDIT2: Added credits
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 01:48:15 PM
Credit to guicrouzet (instagram) for the pic!!

And thanks to dzony95 for posting!

This confirms the airline, flight and destination for leg 2!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 02:10:05 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 03, 2017, 02:15:40 PM
Was it confirmed that the last team out was the ring girls?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 03, 2017, 02:16:02 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe just cost cutting since WOW is lowcost airline
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: miakenzi on October 03, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
I posted this originally in the wrong post:

Who was not there waiting for train? aka kicked off on the first leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 03, 2017, 02:21:37 PM
nvm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 02:24:42 PM
Change of thought
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 03, 2017, 02:26:24 PM
I have a friend at the ready who's only half an hour from Antwerp and able to travel if needed :)

 :conf: Woohoo!

If only we knew which Shop in Antwerp they were looking for!! Or maybe your friend is willing to follow from the train station? So cool
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 03, 2017, 02:26:54 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe just cost cutting since WOW is lowcost airline

I'd lean towards them wanting to film tomorrow.

They'd be getting in to whichever city late enough that they could make sure teams are bunched together with an HoO at the start, versus teams racing against the sun/possible locations closing early evening- depending on what they're doing/where they're going

I think that's why they decided to wait for the late flight too, since there were some earlier flights to Amsterdam that would've gotten them there around the same time as the Brussels one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 03, 2017, 03:09:27 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe Phil and the production staff took the direct flight and had the teams go through Amsterdam so that production would arrive a few hours ahead of the teams. Unless there was a flight last night that the production team could take.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 03, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
At least there could be train from Amsterdam Schiphol Airport to Antwerp, Belgium that would arrive by 11:15 pm. Just like the teams did ride a train from Brussels to Amsterdam Airport in TAR 19.

Yes. My prediction of Antwerp was right.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 03, 2017, 04:26:07 PM
I wonder why they flew to Amsterdam and not Brussels? Icelandair had a direct Keflavik --> Brussels today landing at 12:40. Maybe they wanted the leg to take place tomorrow?

Maybe Phil and the production staff took the direct flight and had the teams go through Amsterdam so that production would arrive a few hours ahead of the teams. Unless there was a flight last night that the production team could take.

It's not direct, however based on timing I think Phil and production could've taken

VY 8561 KEF BCN 2320 0519 (10/3)
VY 8988 BCN BRU 0657 0907 (10/3)

and then traveled onward to Antwerp and filmed all of the standups earlier today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 04:33:45 PM
Maybe it could to do with the BrusselsTerrorist attack?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 04:42:10 PM
Maybe it could to do with the BrusselsTerrorist attack?

Antwerp is not Brussels. But BVM is from Belgium. Netherlands.  :-[
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 03, 2017, 04:51:03 PM
Maybe it could to do with the BrusselsTerrorist attack?

Antwerp is not Brussels. But BVM is from Belgium.

I meant to do with the fact with them flying to Schipol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 03, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
Quote
But BVM is from Belgium.
???
Amsterdam--25 Oct 1940 (http://www.emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/bertram-van-munster)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
Quote
But BVM is from Belgium.
???
Amsterdam--25 Oct 1940 (http://www.emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/bertram-van-munster)

Totally. This girl needs sleep!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 03, 2017, 07:13:18 PM
So, teams flew into Amsterdam and then took a train to Antwerp?

I am getting very confused and so, I am I correct?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 03, 2017, 07:31:08 PM
So, teams flew into Amsterdam and then took a train to Antwerp?

I am getting very confused and so, I am I correct?

Correct so far.

We'll prob have to wait until tomorrow (for them) to see if they stay in Antwerp or hop around the country a bit more
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: elthemagnifico on October 04, 2017, 02:34:59 AM
They WILL likely racing to Antwerp tho,refer to the last sighting, but so far no further sighting yet
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 05:45:35 AM
It looks like Trevor & Christopher standing with Phil in the instagram sighting (look at the taller guy's beard).
And it must be Jen & Kristi to the side.

Could this mean that the girls checked in just before them?
And that both could be at the front, considering that the leg was rather short this morning, and that no other teams are visible?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 04, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
Are those costumes they're wearing supposed to be French Fries??? Weren't French Fries invented in Belgium?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: miakenzi on October 04, 2017, 07:00:06 AM
Hi guys! It appears the post about confirming the ring girls have been eliminated has been deleted (Or my computer/phone are messing up). If it was deleted was there something that made you question if they are still in the running?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 04, 2017, 07:02:56 AM
Are those costumes they're wearing supposed to be French Fries??? Weren't French Fries invented in Belgium?

I was guessing they were flowers but french fries sounds more like something TAR would do. Wikipedia says french fries were invented in either Belgium or France back in the late 1600s - early 1700s.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 04, 2017, 07:09:47 AM
To answer your question Miakenzi --

Any posts that confirm elimination of the teams have/will be deleted or edited out of respect for the family of the teams. We technically cant really confirm whether a team has been eliminated or not until we see it unfold on the show. Until then, as far as sightings go, we can all feel free to interpret the evidence whichever way we want.

(This is what I was told by a moderator.. not word for word but the jist of it)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 04, 2017, 07:24:55 AM
Are those costumes they're wearing supposed to be French Fries??? Weren't French Fries invented in Belgium?

I was guessing they were flowers but french fries sounds more like something TAR would do. Wikipedia says french fries were invented in either Belgium or France back in the late 1600s - early 1700s.

The yellow parts are shaped like fries, the white is supposed to be the serving "cone."
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 04, 2017, 08:08:17 AM
Removed information about TAR 16 that I mistakenly thought was current news.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 04, 2017, 08:13:20 AM
I'm pretty sure that the French fries cones are the Indy500 team.

The shoes match earlier shots of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 04, 2017, 08:16:42 AM
Here is a clear shot of their shoes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:17:09 AM
I'm pretty sure that the French fries cones are the Indy500 team.

The shoes match earlier shots of them.

Yes it is them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:20:28 AM
Crote Markt looks like the Pitstop of this Leg. Saw in the videos posted Phil is with a woman in a Medieval-inspired dress, Pitstop Greeter. Do we have leads as to the order of arrival? Aside from the Indy Drivers, there was another team there in the fries costume, could not make it out clearly who they are.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:24:02 AM
you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?

I'm pretty sure that the French fries cones are the Indy500 team.

The shoes match earlier shots of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:25:00 AM
you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms based on that description.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:27:32 AM
yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARGoodness on October 04, 2017, 08:28:10 AM
Plaidmoon - that Reddit thread was talking about another BB team that had been on the race previously. Not Jessica and Cody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:33:50 AM
yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:37:32 AM
Yes but the hair and height don't match so it's throwing me off as well

yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 08:38:40 AM
Hi guys! It appears the post about confirming the ring girls have been eliminated has been deleted (Or my computer/phone are messing up). If it was deleted was there something that made you question if they are still in the running?

Not really. We didn't actually see them get eliminated. However, they have not been sighted since. They were not visible in Schiphol or at the train to Antwerp. So....

They looked like great fun at the start! So sorry we didn't get to see more.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 04, 2017, 08:42:25 AM
Plaidmoon - that Reddit thread was talking about another BB team that had been on the race previously. Not Jessica and Cody.

Oops. You appear to be right. I'll remove my earlier post to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 04, 2017, 08:44:01 AM
Yes but the hair and height don't match so it's throwing me off as well

yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.


I'm thinking It's 1/2 of the Skiers and 1/2 of the Lifeguards, the female one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 08:54:30 AM
Yes but the hair and height don't match so it's throwing me off as well

yes if you freeze frame the video you can see that but what is throwing me off is I do see a pink sleeve which could mean skiers. but leaning more towards yoga =)

you beat me to it i was going to say that is def indy sneakers. Also the two girls that finished before them does not look like the skiers. one is blonde and the smaller is brunette. Im leaning more towards goat yoga??? thoughts?



Obviously Goat Yoga Moms


I checked it again. There's some shade of pink there.


I'm thinking It's 1/2 of the Skiers and 1/2 of the Lifeguards, the female one.

Don't think it's that because they have to be immediately separated after they check in
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
Sorry, my bad for thinking they were the violinists instead!

My instinct was that it was the female lifeguard as well, but would that be possible at a pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:13:09 AM
Normally they are separated immediately after check in at a pit stop. But now that I am looking at the screen capture it looks as though they could be waiting on line for that cart. Maybe the pit stop was very close. Has happened before. It looks as though they were still filming bc check out the back right corner. There is someone else in costume by a camera. It looks like they have a black hat on?


Sorry, my bad for thinking they were the violinists instead!

My instinct was that it was the female lifeguard as well, but would that be possible at a pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 04, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
You sure those two aren't the debate team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 04, 2017, 09:25:18 AM
Normally they are separated immediately after check in at a pit stop. But now that I am looking at the screen capture it looks as though they could be waiting on line for that cart. Maybe the pit stop was very close. Has happened before. It looks as though they were still filming bc check out the back right corner. There is someone else in costume by a camera. It looks like they have a black hat on?

Good catch, so does that give us some sort of finishing order then?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:26:21 AM
I think you are right. The outfits match..They have on black and white sneakers on as well which they had in the past


You sure those two aren't the debate team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:33:46 AM
Normally they are separated immediately after check in at a pit stop. But now that I am looking at the screen capture it looks as though they could be waiting on line for that cart. Maybe the pit stop was very close. Has happened before. It looks as though they were still filming bc check out the back right corner. There is someone else in costume by a camera. It looks like they have a black hat on?

Good catch, so does that give us some sort of finishing order then?

not too sure but thats indy checked in... possibly the debate team... (and black hat contestant) prob checked in a little before or after them im guessing? what do you think
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 09:47:05 AM
3a has 4 more
The first two are women, one blonde, one dark haired. Skiers?
Male in black cap ?? Violin??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/Antwerp%20pitstop3A.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 09:52:43 AM
The hair is too dark to be a skier. And the only other colors that match would be the debate team. The person in the back with hat is too short to be violinist compared to the other man

3a has 4 more
The first two are women, one blonde, one dark haired. Skiers?
Male in black cap ?? Violin??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 04, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
lol why do i just foresee Cody arguing about having to put on the funny looking fry costume and instead quitting the race  :funny:

Either that or he will put it on and just be emotionless for the rest of the leg until he gets to take it off <3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Teamjody on October 04, 2017, 11:42:37 AM
Do I see Cody in the background looking like Jody may have checked in already?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 11:58:57 AM
Do I see Cody in the background looking like Jody may have checked in already?

Might be unlikely. Generally once a team checks in they are whisked away to do their interviews, generally there is no hanging about.

:welcome: to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 04, 2017, 01:17:51 PM
Sorry, guys that the friend from near Antwerp wasn't able to make it there this morning after all due to work :(

But I asked about the significance of French fries to Belgium, and he said to never call them that to a Belgian, they're "frites" :lol: It's a rather contentious issue they have with France, which country they originated in.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 01:43:02 PM
Sorry, guys that the friend from near Antwerp wasn't able to make it there this morning after all due to work :(

But I asked about the significance of French fries to Belgium, and he said to never call them that to a Belgian, they're "frites" :lol: It's a rather contentious issue they have with France, which country they originated in.

oh wow thats very interesting to know though. haha is it too early to mark anyone off as safe with the info we have?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
Antwerp flights are pretty minimal. SO I think we have to think train to somewhere or back to AMS if they want flights.

A nice long train ride to Eastern Europe would be lovely. Prague is on my list!


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 04, 2017, 02:25:32 PM
Wouldn't Brussels make sense. I think a train to another destination is most likely. Hopefully Luxembourg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 02:47:42 PM
With how much production has been trying to reduce costs, I don't think they would plan a flight to Amsterdam, a train to Antwerp, then a train back to Amsterdam (or Brussels) to fly somewhere else. Seems to much for just 1 leg, especially with 10 teams.
I'm expecting them to stay in Belgium for leg 3, probably in Brussels.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 04, 2017, 04:30:10 PM
 :hithere: thebasketmakerswife!  :bigwelcome to the R.F.F.!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 04, 2017, 05:05:38 PM
The newest pics seem to be right after the previous ones.  It looks like the Indy Drivers have taken of their "Frites" costumes, and that team Goat Yoga has reached the mat.  The third team was in the previous pics also, but not identifiable (not much help in the new pics, but maybe someone with a better eye can figure out who they are.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 04, 2017, 05:28:25 PM
I just posted a new pic. It looks like a road block. Can't identify the first person on floor, one twin, possible yoga mom? And cody last
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 04, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
Hopefully they catch a train to Brussels and have Leg 3 there, get catch a flight to West Africa from there!  :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 04, 2017, 05:48:08 PM
I reckon if they visit anywhere in Belgium it'll be Bruges.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 06:28:23 PM
Me too. But I think one leg is enough, time to TRAVEL!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 04, 2017, 07:06:09 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/martajarsia.jpg)

Are they doing task right next to pitstop?

On picture we can see "Start" ("Friet Race"), maybe is the Pitstop end of that course?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 08:18:00 PM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 04, 2017, 08:25:39 PM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Reply 100 in live sightings thread shows Phil, so the pit stop must be there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 04, 2017, 08:46:20 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/A3x.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/A2x%202.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Antwerp%20Belgium/A1x.jpg)

if ANYONE CAN DO BETTER RESOLUTION PLEASE TRY!

Is that bright pink I see on one of the backpacks?  Could be the skiers there

It's difficult to tell because it's far away and the task flags are pink as well, but it looks to be a different shade, and it seems like the flags aren't strung across at that point

Feel free to move this to spec, but I felt it easier to reply directly on here, than try and vaguely reference it over there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 04, 2017, 09:10:06 PM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Reply 100 in live sightings thread shows Phil, so the pit stop must be there.

But do you see the mat? Hasn't he said in interviews before that there are times when he is barely ahead of the teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 04, 2017, 09:13:03 PM
I just posted a new pic. It looks like a road block. Can't identify the first person on floor, one twin, possible yoga mom? And cody last

Person on the floor is definitely shorter yoga mom (April), sneaker matches to hers from earlier pic. I also think the other guy in black beanie is not Cody, just other twin waiting for his brother to finish roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
Or it could be really close by...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 05, 2017, 04:01:40 AM
Or maybe the Pitstop is somewhere else entirely.... :duno:
Reply 100 in live sightings thread shows Phil, so the pit stop must be there.

But do you see the mat? Hasn't he said in interviews before that there are times when he is barely ahead of the teams?
So what do you imply by that? Do you think Phil was late and therefore stopped at a task location to casually chat with the racers?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 05, 2017, 04:07:31 AM
I found a news story about the Iceland leg from an Icelandic news site. Unfortunately, they seem to have gotten all of their information from us, so there's not much new. It does mention some locations and I'm not sure we have all of these. Since there's not much new, I put it here rather than in Live Sightings. The sentence with the locations:

On the pictures and videos below, you can see teams running Laugavegur, Hljómskálagarður and drinking cod liver oil with power plants at Ingólfstorg.

Laugavegur is the main commercial street in downtown Reykjavik and also the name of a hiking trail, but I think the first is more likely. Hljómskálagarður is a park with a large pond in Reykjavik and I think it is adjacent to the pit stop location.

Here's the link to the news story: http://www.visir.is/g/2017171009483/amazing-race-aftur-til-islands (http://www.visir.is/g/2017171009483/amazing-race-aftur-til-islands)

Here's a google translation (a poor one) of the Icelandic text:

Amazing Race back to Iceland

Stephen O. Jonsson writes October 5, 2017, 6:45 PM

Taking the Thirty Series of Real-Time Real Estate The Amazing Race has been rejected, and it seems that competitors need to return to Iceland again.

This racing game has been very popular since the first episode was premiered in 2001. 11 double teams travel around the world and solve puzzles in distant countries, the first to succeed in achieving a goal after the trip will receive a lot of money.

In this latest episode, the teams seem to have to bumble up in Iceland if the fans can be considered. They have been diligent to publish images of the team's cravings, which were in Iceland at the beginning of the week.

Below you can see the first clue that the teams received in their hands. There they are told to come to Iceland, more specifically to Geitárgljúfur.

A fan took this picture of the first clue of the contestants.
REALITY FAN FORUM
On the pictures and videos below, you can see teams running Laugavegur, Hljómskálagarður and drinking cod liver oil with power plants at Ingólfstorg.

Contestants in The Amazing Race have previously been sent to Iceland, in particular in the sixth series of events shown at Stage 2 in 2004 to 2005. The fact that Iceland had interfered with the episodes was said to be "one of the biggest country announcements in history." - neither more nor less.

It has not been released when the 37 th episode will be released, but it is expected that it will be at the end of this year or the beginning of 2018.

More photos of the contestants 'adventures can be found at the fans' forum by clicking here.
Below is a photo gallery, you can browse them by clicking the arrows that appear at the edge of the pictures.


The videos and photos are all ones that have been posted here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 05:03:40 AM
Nice! We must have posting at the same time. I just put the link in LIVE as well. I think the video of the lifeguard team answering the 2 questions from the Crossfit Lady to get their clue may be new. Thanks for the translation!

And how nice of them to both credit and link to us. Thank you note sent!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 05, 2017, 05:19:19 AM
Cpt Carnage's post (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1206785.html#msg1206785) has Phil, a greeter, and the mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 05:54:53 AM
Good eye!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 05, 2017, 06:20:38 AM
Fries were invented in Belgium and its original name (les frites) is in french, which is why we call em french fries
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 05, 2017, 07:00:37 AM
Thanks to all of the amazing RFF race detectives!

 :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 05, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
If we knew, we would post it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 05, 2017, 07:10:45 AM
Quote
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=post;quote=1207027;topic=33374.100;last_msg=1207027

so, it looks like we're gonna continue in Europe....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 05, 2017, 07:14:14 AM
Not necessarily.  They could easily be connecting to anywhere in Africa through the major hubs of London, Frankfurt, Madrid, Rome...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 05, 2017, 07:15:26 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 07:24:30 AM
Bad weather has postponed/cancelled many flights right now.

Comment from our live sighter:

Quote
we definitely saw them at the departures, they were just standing near us, we noticed the backpacks and camera. We then followed them over to the tax free declaration queue which I believe is to get their Vat return, not positive. After that they wandered over to the departure screens and looked at the one I sent you. From there it seemed they had time, they were never rushing, and were just chilling. The blond woman walked off one way and the team went down towards arrivals, maybe just looking for a seat, I'm not sure.



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 07:28:20 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought

Eliminated teams do not generally travel with a camera/sound crew and a story producer. That is usually first or last team.

Unless they have brought back Elimination station? ???

And we don't know what parameters they are working under.... Perhaps others could have chosen Brussels vs AMS.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 05, 2017, 07:38:29 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought

Eliminated teams do not generally travel with a camera/sound crew and a story producer. That is usually first or last team.

Unless they have brought back Elimination station? ???

And we don't know what parameters they are working under.... Perhaps others could have chosen Brussels vs AMS.

Thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 05, 2017, 07:49:22 AM
What usually happens with the teams that are eliminated?

If Henry and Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport .......idk just a thought

Eliminated teams do not generally travel with a camera/sound crew and a story producer. That is usually first or last team.

Unless they have brought back Elimination station? ???

And we don't know what parameters they are working under.... Perhaps others could have chosen Brussels vs AMS.

Thank you!


This also popped into my mind when I saw the pics posted by Peach. If Henry & Evan are the only ones spotted at the airport. For me it could only mean 2 things either they are connecting via AMS to get to the destination of the sequester or connecting to get to another country since Amsterdam has lots of flights. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 05, 2017, 09:47:50 AM
but don't you all think it is common sense to assume that if "they" are the only team spotted then they might be in trouble. yall need to STOP acting like you are the only ones who have seen this show. We are all TAR fans. I say The Debaters better grab their life vest.....cause its been punctured. See you NEVER>

FYI...im am here to entertain and see how good these "spoilers" are. so far I am NOT impressed...but i am open to be amazed.  ***STANNING TAR SHOW FOR LIFE***
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 09:55:25 AM
The flights that stick out to me are the 2 LHR, Frankfurt, and CDG for good connections onward

OR Bilbao since there were a couple flights there

My issue is that all of the flights on that board seem to be departing around 2 hours from the time on the screen, and yet they're taking their time to get through security and such. Granted 2 hours is a good amount of time, but I alreqdy like to get passed security ASAP as it is, and if I were on the race that would prob be heightened; they're just chilling and taking their time- it just seems really odd
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 09:58:01 AM
We are glad to welcome any TAR fans! Have fun! AfreekNSheets

I agree. Seeing one team alone is always cause for either a lot of joy or a lot of concern. Many a team has run into trouble in Schiphol...remember when Brad and his wife got eliminated due to fog?

But! At least in the past...teams eliminated were not traveling with a camera crew.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 05, 2017, 10:07:16 AM
they are perhaps with a camera crew maybe because they are not eliminated but they are running last which means their travel still has to be documented until they've reached the end of the leg.

why didn't you ask the questions we all want to know...."were they the only ones?" and where were they headed? i came here for the juicy stuff not just not just fluff.

And thanks for welcoming me. the website is very hard to navigate (not-user friendly) but i am a quick learner ;-)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 05, 2017, 10:10:28 AM
they are perhaps with a camera crew maybe because they are not eliminated but they are running last which means their travel still has to be documented until they've reached the end of the leg.

why didn't you ask the questions we all want to know...."were they the only ones?" and where were they headed? i came here for the juicy stuff not just not just fluff.

And thanks for welcoming me. the website is very hard to navigate (not-user friendly) but i am a quick learner ;-)

If they are in Amsterdam however that is not a part of the second leg in Brussels - I am a gabrillion percent sure they got on the train to Antwerp Tuesday night so they definitely got there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 10:20:55 AM
Looking at the flight details from Schiphol, the flights to LHR and Frankfurt were cancelled, but CDG and Bilbao were not but delayed at least an hour

I would think that since they didn't head to a ticket counter while our friend saw them, I would assume that they weren't on one of the cancelled flights
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 05, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
So here's my theory (feel free to debunk it...but don't be RUDE).
There is only one crew spotted because the rest either already left on earlier flight or took different mode of transportation
camera crew are with them because every team are assigned their own (that's how TAR works)
if you are last or eliminated they are with you, whether they are still filming or they aren't needed any longer either.
Lastly, the spoiler never said they were filming it said they were with them.....so that's subject to interpretation.

anyway, we can assume they are last or eliminated.....or just good old SOL. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 05, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
why are ruling out that they could be first? if they are alone couldnt this be the same reason. And if they were taking their time it could be because they had extra time because of that. A story producer also travels with the first team. Eliminated would mean no camera man whether he was filming them or not

So here's my theory (feel free to debunk it...but don't be RUDE).
There is only one crew spotted because the rest either already left on earlier flight or took different mode of transportation
camera crew are with them because every team are assigned their own (that's how TAR works)
if you are last or eliminated they are with you, whether they are still filming or they aren't needed any longer either.
Lastly, the spoiler never said they were filming it said they were with them.....so that's subject to interpretation.

anyway, we can assume they are last or eliminated.....or just good old SOL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 05, 2017, 10:40:07 AM
So here's my theory (feel free to debunk it...but don't be RUDE).
There is only one crew spotted because the rest either already left on earlier flight or took different mode of transportation
camera crew are with them because every team are assigned their own (that's how TAR works)
if you are last or eliminated they are with you, whether they are still filming or they aren't needed any longer either.
Lastly, the spoiler never said they were filming it said they were with them.....so that's subject to interpretation.

anyway, we can assume they are last or eliminated.....or just good old SOL.

Other teams could have taken a different route or several different routes. No reason to automatically assume they were last.
It is my understanding that crews are reassigned teams - I imagine TPTB want more experienced crews to continue if their team is eliminated. In addition, they aren't continually filming 100% of the time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 10:40:39 AM
I was talking to someone on the production team while at the start line.

I was asking about production crews and if they switch or what things looked like, and he said they switch the crews that follow the teams each leg to try and limit advantages/disadvantages due to the crew's speed/efficiency

To me it would seem that they wouldn't need a crew any longer if they weren't racing, UNLESS it's for Elimination Station (which could be a *slight* possibility, given the teams on this season)

As I've been researching the flights, the reason why they could've been taking their time a bit is because MANY of the flights were either delayed or out-right cancelled today, potentially giving them several hours to wander around the airport before being even close to needing to check in

I'm leaning more towards that they took a gamble and could be in some trouble right now, but not eliminated yet
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 05, 2017, 10:43:02 AM
Maybe the clue instruced teams to fly to wherever and could choose to use either Amsterdam or Brussels airport, unlikely but possible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 05, 2017, 10:47:59 AM
They appear to be talking to Production and I was under the impression that production cannot talk to them. Is that correct?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 11:06:07 AM
They appear to be talking to Production and I was under the impression that production cannot talk to them. Is that correct?

Apparently they can in certain situations. Scott from 29 said somewhere about how he made comments on recognizing the revisited tasks, but production actually didn't want him calling them "Switchbacks" for some reason.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 11:09:16 AM
Production is in charge of them and their safety at all times. They definitely talk. Not RACE but general instructions et all.

And :welcome: to you as well! I missed you before.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 11:10:49 AM
If the picture of Jody in the AMS airport was indeed posted immediately after the person ran into them, that would put them being there at 6am today

It seems likely that it was them catching a flight out for leg 3 as opposed to arriving a couple days ago for leg 2, since they seemed to be hanging around the airport; someone was able to spot that it was them, go get food and bring it to them- not likely something that could happen if they were trying to catch a train to Antwerp.

If it's accurate, it could give credence to Henry and Evan still being in the race, but also that they seem to be HOURS behind (and in danger of elimination)- unless every other team was stuck at the airport too, just on the other side of security


Sorry but that photo was taken in AMS PRIOR to going to Antwerp...NOT today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 11:15:15 AM
If they're that far behind, it could also very well mean too that they quit a task in Antwerp and took a penalty. Which apparently goes: 30 minutes not following the clue, 2 hours ARI, 4 hours Roadblock, 6 hours Detour.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
Jody in AMS was arrival before train to Antwerp, they were NOT seen today.

Only team seen today was the Debaters and the time was 1224 first pic.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 05, 2017, 12:09:11 PM
Perhaps the other teams flew from Brussels airport or a smaller Dutch one (Maastricht/Rotterdam/Eindhoven)? It's purely guessing for now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 05, 2017, 12:13:50 PM
If the picture of Jody in the AMS airport was indeed posted immediately after the person ran into them, that would put them being there at 6am today

It seems likely that it was them catching a flight out for leg 3 as opposed to arriving a couple days ago for leg 2, since they seemed to be hanging around the airport; someone was able to spot that it was them, go get food and bring it to them- not likely something that could happen if they were trying to catch a train to Antwerp.

If it's accurate, it could give credence to Henry and Evan still being in the race, but also that they seem to be HOURS behind (and in danger of elimination)- unless every other team was stuck at the airport too, just on the other side of security
(different DAY--see previous posts)

It was not posted immediately. I contacted someone on Twitter who first said her friend just ran into #JODY and told her to try to convince him to post that picture. She responded directly to me yesterday and said I got him to post the pic. And I said "I saw!". So that was before Leg 2. She posted it 20 hours prior than today and he stated he met them the prior night. (Yes we know...it was taken by one of OUR members.)

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 05, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
but don't you all think it is common sense to assume that if "they" are the only team spotted then they might be in trouble. yall need to STOP acting like you are the only ones who have seen this show. We are all TAR fans. I say The Debaters better grab their life vest.....cause its been punctured. See you NEVER>

FYI...im am here to entertain and see how good these "spoilers" are. so far I am NOT impressed...but i am open to be amazed.  ***STANNING TAR SHOW FOR LIFE***
What do you expect :lol: :lol:
No one here is like actually buying plane tickets to catch up with the racers, we're just all collecting sightings from locals and trying to fill the picture as much as possible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 05, 2017, 03:43:24 PM
Has this been posted? It shows Phil recording his intro for the Iceland pitstop.

https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t (https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 05, 2017, 04:20:16 PM
Has this been posted? It shows Phil recording his intro for the Iceland pitstop.

https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t (https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t)

I'm thinking that might be the detour, with Katrin getting one side and the strongmen getting the other.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 04:52:53 PM
Well, if we don't see them again we'll know. :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jesscahc on October 05, 2017, 05:19:03 PM
The strongmen were just for show. I relistened to the video I took. Katrin (in pink) asked them two questions:
1. What do us Icelanders call the drink known as black death? --> Brennivin
2. What is "þorskur lifur" --> cod liver oil
After answering correctly and drinking a shot of each, the strongmen then handed teams the clue, which tells them to make their way by foot to the pit stop.

Has this been posted? It shows Phil recording his intro for the Iceland pitstop.

https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t (https://web.stagram.com/p/BZ06F_YAm0t)

I'm thinking that might be the detour, with Katrin getting one side and the strongmen getting the other.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Caelestor on October 05, 2017, 06:34:45 PM
Bilbao is a possible destination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 05, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
Well, if we don't see them again we'll know. :(

I'm getting the impression that they went to Africa. Remember last season when they went to Tanzania, it took some time before we found info and coincided when they finally reached Norway.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 05, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
https://twitter.com/Savanna06112697/with_replies

this twitter user claiming she saw several teams racing today in Flughafen, Frankfurt
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: clemsonbeav on October 05, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
But Flughafen just means airport in German...there's no city specified, no?  *scratches head*
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 05, 2017, 07:09:28 PM
Flughafen means airport btw :lol: So the Frankfurt thing is something you made up yourself, ShelbysHat.
Call me skeptical, but for someone to go out of their way to find some random race-related tweet to reply to, and then give such vague details, seems suspicious. The user hasn't tweeted in 3 months beforehand, and seems to be a big BB fan, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this news was fake.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WorldTraveler on October 05, 2017, 07:12:26 PM

Does anyone else feel like #Jody might be at an advantage if they have BB fans that are able to find them and offer them some help along the way?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 05, 2017, 07:17:06 PM
Flughafen means airport btw :lol: So the Frankfurt thing is something you made up yourself, ShelbysHat.

yes, 6 years of studying German in school were wasted on me, i don't remember anything, i just assumed based on one of the first google search results
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flughafen
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 07:20:09 PM
That's kind of a relief, actually. Germany is the second most frequented country after France, it would taint this route a little.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 05, 2017, 07:23:24 PM
Maybe Germany was an airport stopover ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 05, 2017, 07:24:27 PM
Maybe Germany was an airport stopover ???

Probably. Frankfurt's a major European hub.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 05, 2017, 07:24:39 PM
Flughafen means airport btw :lol: So the Frankfurt thing is something you made up yourself, ShelbysHat.
Call me skeptical, but for someone to go out of their way to find some random race-related tweet to reply to, and then give such vague details, seems suspicious. The user hasn't tweeted in 3 months beforehand, and seems to be a big BB fan, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this news was fake.

It's also the district of Frankfurt that holds the airport, hence the name: Frankfurt-Flughafen

The rest seems odd, but that actually does check out in terms of being an actual place on the map- whether teams were there or if this person is a troll remains to be seen

If it is true, I wouldn't be surprised if its some sort of connection onward to somewhere else

It could also bring credence to teams having multiple airport options to travel to- Debate opting for AMS, and Jody opting for FRA

We have seen similar situations in the past (TAR 14 flying into Germany or Italy and taking the train from either into Switzerland), so maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 05, 2017, 07:24:57 PM


Quote
Does anyone else feel like #Jody might be at an advantage if they have BB fans that are able to find them and offer them some help along the way?


No, American BB isn't that well known around the world. And they would have to be pretty big brother fans in other parts to even recognize them to know who they are. They didn't last long Jessica was evicted pre jury and Cody the week after. There's bigger names on this cast like the Basketball team and Indy car drivers. If anyone has a leg up it's them imo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 05, 2017, 07:39:38 PM


What? There are BB superfans who follow MANY franchises worldwide + it began in Europe, not the US. They know who Jody are, trust me. The fact they didn't last long, IMO, actually led to their popularity. At first they were cheered by fans because they were seemingly the only ones playing for themselves & not Paul. After Jessica was evicted Pre-Jury, she campaigned for Cody for America's Favorite Player. They are being shipped hard. (Disclaimer: I am NOT a shipper - I don't care one way or the other, LOL)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 05, 2017, 08:07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Savanna06112697/with_replies

this twitter user claiming she saw several teams racing today in Flughafen, Frankfurt
fake
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 05, 2017, 09:05:15 PM
Oh, no! Not the Frankfurt airport! Bad things always happen to teams there.
 :peek
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 05, 2017, 09:27:13 PM
Bilbao is a possible destination.

Based on??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kayd2838 on October 05, 2017, 11:07:35 PM
this was posted on Twitter according to Google translate it's filapino. im not sure if it's referring to our amazing race I'm gonna try to ask. it translates to amazing race is at the airport

UPDATE: I apologize the tweet was lost in translation! Im new :groan: so I havent figured out how to delete this post, I did report it to the mod though as incorrect info.



:welcome: to RFF! No worries! We appreciate the eyes watching! :waves: --peach
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: muninayo on October 05, 2017, 11:21:13 PM
^I understand Filipino...the tweet basically says she had an amazing race-like experience at the airport and that they made it...definitely not a TAR sighting...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 09:06:38 AM
We lost them now  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 09:51:13 AM
It looks to be a roadblock as the male in front is carrying a red clue.

Jessica (of Jessica and Cody - Big Brother)

Henry (of Henry and Evan - Debaters)

Are the 2 of the 4 I’m able to figure out

The male in front looks to be from the Violinists?? Not positive

The male in back Im pretty sure is with the Twins



(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%201.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 06, 2017, 09:51:37 AM
It’s definitely Henry and Jessica. The other two men in the photo are hard to identify, I’m thinking it’s one of the twins and no idea who the other guy in the photo is. It’s too blurry for me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 06, 2017, 09:54:26 AM
Tangier, morocco

. How is this chick finding all this info and pics lol

She's just doing what we do. Those pics were on Instagram & Facebook.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 10:30:25 AM
Teams that are confirmed to be still racing on Leg 3 (Tangier, Morocco)

Seen at Roadblock
#Violinists
#MasterDebaters
#Jody
#Twins

we didn’t really see the twins in Iceland, but these other 3 teams were bunched up in Reykjavic as well I’m pretty sure.

Violinists were confirmed 4th Place finish on Leg 1 and #Jody and #MasterDebaters we’re ahead of them

And seeing now as #Masterdebaters seem to be still in it and with other teams around, they either chose to go to Amsterdam to find a way to Tangier , or they were just there before the others

Seen at Task where teams are running to package of fish

#Eaters
#Jody
#Violinists
#Basketball

—�—�—�—�-

Teams yet to be spotted on Leg 3 : Tangier, Morocco


#Lifeguards
#Skiers
#Indy500
#GoatYogaMoma

#RingGirls  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:13:20 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers & Dating Lifeguards.

I thought I saw Indy500 but it was a combo of the Eaters and Violinists I’m pretty sure. They are still missing too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:18:35 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers & Dating Lifeguards.

I thought I saw Indy500 but it was a combo of the Eaters and Violinists I’m pretty sure. They are still missing too

Corrected, thanks for the pics.:conf: Is that all?  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 11:20:47 AM
Also, the yellow clue In #Basketball teams hand tells us it’s a detour.

So that might explain why the other teams aren’t sighted (aside from the 1 team possibly eliminated in Leg 2). They could be doing the other detour
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 06, 2017, 11:23:53 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 06, 2017, 11:25:57 AM
Could they have landed in Spain/Gibraltar and then went to Tangier by boat?

Hoping we get to see Gibraltar, I don't remember TAR going there!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:26:37 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Which airport? I don't know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 06, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Which airport? I don't know.

I remember reading that on here but I could be wrong it was going into leg 3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 06, 2017, 11:31:26 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Which airport? I don't know.

I remember reading that on here but I could be wrong it was going into leg 3

Did not come across that info, but will check. I would assume the latter 3 are now at risk. Team Indy did check in at leg 2 as per sighting. No idea on their placement though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 06, 2017, 11:56:44 AM
Based on the pics posted by Calibound2, we're missing the Goat Yoga Moms, Pro Skiers, Indy 500 Racers & Dating Lifeguards.

We're the lifeguards seen at the airport? And Indy was seen checking in for leg 2. Is it safe to assume that yoga moms or skiers were possibly eliminated leg 2?

Nope. Not seen does NOT mean not there. It just means we did not see them in this shot at this location.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
AMS>TANGIER

No wonder they weren't hurrying!  :funny:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/AMS_TANGIER%20Flight.jpg)

Hmm so maybe #Debaters were  probably ahead and everyone caught up? or the other teams chose other ways to get there. If they were behind they made up ground because they were seen with other teams in Morocco.

This also explains why amine_kasmi has posted about the amazing race being in Tangier 21 hours ago (could have been setting up the Leg or Phil filming task stuff). However, no media was found until about 9 hours ago (which would be 9am local Tangier time). So whether teams were behind or not there was probably an HoO task or something that got them all bunched up again? So we can assume that this IS Leg 3? And the tasks only begun this morning
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 06, 2017, 12:18:39 PM
Production would have come in beforehand, maybe he just referenced Phil or crew, for the 21 hours ago.

With a night arrival they prob did an hours of op too.

Not sure with seeing a team in AMS at noonish that they could have had time to leave Antwerp, get to AMS, AND have another leg before.

SO I would say Leg 3.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 06, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
This was posted 9 hours ago, the pics of the travelocity gnome were posted 7 hours ago with the twins, jody, yale and violin in the lead?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 12:23:50 PM
Ok:)

And it looks like there was a flight to Tangier out of Brussels as well but a lot later than the Amsterdam one . With all of delays and arriving late to Tangier anyways, I think all teams prob got bunched up at the beginning of Leg 3 anyways.

Much like how they all arrived on the same train for Leg 2
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 06, 2017, 12:24:25 PM
I'm leaning towards 2 legs in Morocco, and a visit to Chefchaouen for leg 4

Yeah, Morocco's a good place for 2 legs, could see that. It's not far from Tangier.

I just looked up the place. Holy crap that is a lot of blue!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 06, 2017, 01:03:05 PM
Location of Roadblock is "The American Legation", as written on a image. That is the first American public property outside the United States, built in 1821. (source: wiki)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%201.jpg)

So Travelocity gnome is still there, yay
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lexie on October 06, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
I'm leaning towards 2 legs in Morocco, and a visit to Chefchaouen for leg 4

Yeah, Morocco's a good place for 2 legs, could see that. It's not far from Tangier.

I just looked up the place. Holy crap that is a lot of blue!!
===================
I didn't know what you meant until I put "Chefchaouen" in my Google bar and nothing but blue came up!!!  That is a LOT of blue!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 06, 2017, 01:09:18 PM
Seems like an ideal place for a unique TAR leg, yeah :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 06, 2017, 01:14:52 PM
Would be really cool if they visited that place - never heard of it but looks stunning!
However, the travel for leg 5 would probably be too difficult then. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 06, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
Casablanca would be better choice, lot's of flights from there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lexie on October 06, 2017, 01:19:14 PM
It would be really cool if the clue said "look for the big blue house"  :chute:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 06, 2017, 01:19:45 PM
Would be really cool if they visited that place - never heard of it but looks stunning!
However, the travel for leg 5 would probably be too difficult then. ???

They would just travel back to Tangier and fly out from there

It seems to have decent connections to major European hubs
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 06, 2017, 01:24:44 PM
so we still are not sure if this is leg 3 or 4? 

I heard somewhere that the Ring girls and Yoga Moms are eliminated. 

So far this leg the Racers, Debaters, Violinists, Twins, Jody and Basketball players have all been spotted.

The only teams not seen are the lifeguard couple, the eaters, and skii girls? 

Those 3 (possibly 2 if this is the 4th leg) seem like they would be the weakest teams left so I wonder if they are behind..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 06, 2017, 01:31:50 PM
No . The only teams not seen so far this leg are #skiers #yogamoms #lifeguards #indy500 (although they checked in for leg 2 and were seen ahead of other teams) and #ringgirls (obviously)

If you factor in Pit stop rest periods and getting into Antwerp late at night and Tangier later at night (the racers would get bunched up and do the tasks the next day in the morning)

This is Leg 3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Caelestor on October 06, 2017, 01:37:57 PM
Do we think this TAR will be visiting all seaside cities, similar to the island theme of TAR 25?

Is Gibraltar in play? It's right across the Strait.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 06, 2017, 01:41:31 PM
I think we need to look closer at that video, I think there are more teams there. Not seen does not mean eliminated,  We have had teams reappear suddenly 5 or 6 legs later.

We are sorta looking through a periscope here, we def don't see everything!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 06, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
No . The only teams not seen so far this leg are #skiers #yogamoms #lifeguards #indy500 (although they checked in for leg 2 and were seen ahead of other teams) and #ringgirls (obviously)

If you factor in Pit stop rest periods and getting into Antwerp late at night and Tangier later at night (the racers would get bunched up and do the tasks the next day in the morning)

This is Leg 3

ok cool.. Is it safe to assume this leg is now over and they are on rest period before leg 4 starts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 06, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
No . The only teams not seen so far this leg are #skiers #yogamoms #lifeguards #indy500 (although they checked in for leg 2 and were seen ahead of other teams) and #ringgirls (obviously)

If you factor in Pit stop rest periods and getting into Antwerp late at night and Tangier later at night (the racers would get bunched up and do the tasks the next day in the morning)

This is Leg 3

ok cool.. Is it safe to assume this leg is now over and they are on rest period before leg 4 starts?

Well based on the clues seen in racers' hands, we've already had a Roadblock and Detour for this leg, could have been a third ARI task. Quite possibly. It's after 8:00 in Tangier now, it'd be getting dark.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 05:04:40 AM

I talked with the guy who was in morocco and posted those pics... and according to him they started at the docks and then went to the gnomes. The first 4 teams he saw were the picture with jess, debaters, emts,and violinists.. Also he said he only saw 8 teams which makes me think it was indeed leg 4. And further evidence of this is he has a picture with 8 blue structures which I assumed was significant. (most assumed it was leg 3 just because we had no intel the day prior)





And now that I take a closer look, I think I see the Twins in the first capture. Next to #Basketball and one of the team members is carrying both bags. Idk though there’s so much going on and apt of the people in the pic are production.

I’m wondering if it’s 2 teams per Station. I want to know if this took place before or after the Roadblock w/ gnomes pics we saw.

Other teams (aside from eliminated contestants) could be at the other detour .. or ahead or behind

If I take other seasons in account, there’s a good chance they have to bring the gnomes to Phil at the pit stop. Which would mean the roadblock happened AFTER the teams running to get to the cartons of fish (gnomes aren’t visible)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 07:02:34 AM
hmmm Im still not sure about how it would be Leg 4.

The Race started on 10/1. The teams landed in Reykjavic, Iceland on 10/2. They finished the leg in the afternoon.
Teams weren't spotted until the afternoon of 10/3 at the Keflavic Airport (after their mandatory rest period). Keep in mind that Phil and production have to be one step ahead of the racers as far as filming and set up goes. Also, the teams are required to have a great chunk of rest time between legs/travel. Sometimes the amount of time they have for rest depends on the itinerary for the next leg/flights and travel accomodations.

Teams arrived in Amsterdam the evening of 10/3 and then headed to the train station to take a late train to Antwerp, Belgium. They arrived really late on 10/3 and due to filming and HoO type stuff (they were heading to a SHOP in Antwerp) the leg wouldnt be until 10/4 in the morning which checks out with the daylight we saw in pictures (teams wearing fry costumes). Assuming the guests checked in during the afternoon on 10/4, they wouldnt leave the pit stop and start the next leg until 10/5 in the morning at least.

This goes along with our sighting of the Debaters at the Amsterdam airport on 10/5. You have to think about travel time to get to the airport from Antwerp and other teams possibly went to other airports to catch flights to Tangier (we know that the Debaters are still bunched with the other teams because we spotted Henry at the roadblock in Tangier with a couple of the other teams). The flight from Amsterdam to Tangier didnt land until late 10/5 meaning once again due to filming and HoO type stuff, the tasks for leg 3 couldnt really be completed until 10/6 which checks out with the pictures we saw of the race on 10/6 (the cartons of fish at the pier/roadblock with gnome)

It's not really possible for there to have been another leg in that time. Correct me if im wrong

If the guy that spotted the teams really didnt see a 9th team, that could mean a number of things. Remember, if we dont physically see a team checking in last place, it's all just speculation. The gentleman who posted the photos didn't mention that the blue structures had anything to do with the task did he?

But the team/s he didn't spot could have done the other detour or been far ahead or far behind or he just didnt recognize them . If he was keeping an eye on the tasks/teams the whole time, he would have posted more pictures. No?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 07:14:54 AM
hmmm Im still not sure about how it would be Leg 4.

The Race start on 10/1. The teams landed in Reykjavic, Iceland on 10/2. They finished the leg in the afternoon.
Teams weren't spotted until the afternoon of 10/3 at the Reykjavic Airport. Keep in mind that Phil and production have to be one step ahead of the racers as far as filming and set up goes.

Teams arrived in Amsterdam the evening of 10/3 and then headed to the train station to take a late train to Antwerp, Belgium. They arrived really late on 10/3 and due to filming and HoO type stuff (they were heading to a SHOP in Antwerp) the leg wouldnt be until 10/4 in the morning which checks out with the daylight we saw in pictures (teams wearing fry suits). Assuming the guests checked in during the afternoon on 10/4, they wouldnt leave the pit stop and start the next leg until 10/5 in the morning at least.

This goes along with our sighting of the Debaters at the Amsterdam airport on 10/5. You have to think about travel time to get to the airport from Antwerp and other teams possibly went to other airports to catch flights to Tangier (we know that the Debaters are still bunched with the other teams because we spotted Henry at the roadblock in Tangier with a couple of the other teams). The flight from Amsterdam to Tangier didnt land until late 10/5 meaning once again due to filming and HoO type stuff, the tasks for leg 3 couldnt really be completed until 10/6 which checks out with the pictures we saw of the race on 10/6 (the cartons of fish at the pier/roadblock with gnome)

It's not really possible for there to have been another leg in that time. Correct me if im wrong

Yes, my thinking is that they had a pit stop either before or  once landing in Tangier.... again the key to this is the fact the person present only saw 8 teams and we went a day without knowing where they were so it’s been very possible they had a 3rd leg and were on their 4th yesterday
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 07:38:49 AM


Downtimes can be 6-8 to 24 hours. Usual is about 12. 
They may have been able to squeak in another leg somewhere. I'll have to look. Iceland? ??? Dunno. Gibralter could have been fast.

But the blue structures are posted upstream here ^^^ so agree there could only be 8 teams left this leg. Possible, not confirmed.
But inclined to believe this so we need to explore all options!!


Our remaining FF teams have not been seen (skiers, yoga) so there is that. HUGE bummer if we lost all 3 FF teams first.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 07:42:14 AM
I found some more information about the Tangier leg and a possible additional task from someone who apparently allowed part of the leg to be filmed at her location. There were two messages (translated from Italian):

Today could be the last day of shooting of The Amazing Race Morocco "from our terraces, two staff boys, especially appreciated the Italian cappuccino that I passed from our kitchen terrace. good day at all

and a second message:

And voila :) , thanks to all of you friends, that we are sure you will be in this new adventure <3

Goodbye friends, with great pleasure once again we share with you an event that is being held today in our big house in Tangier, on our terraces will turn an episode of the famous The Amazing Race, the shooting of today will be a competition between athletes who they will launch with ropes from our terraces, which are the tallest, on other homes located in in Medina below us .... for over a month we are involved in this beautiful adventure, the movie troupe has arrived directly from Hollywood, supported by the film directors of our Studios in Ouarzazate located south of Morocco between the Sahara dunes


It sounds like the teams rappelled or climbed down ropes to the Medina, which is the labyrinth of alleyways, both commercial and residential inside the walls of a 15th-century Portuguese fortress.

Here's a picture that was posted that seems to be where the filming took place.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Terrace.jpg)

Depending on when this picture was posted, this could be from Leg 4 (?) taking place today?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 07, 2017, 07:53:17 AM
The information I found and that picture was posted just over 24 hours ago, so it had to have been from the leg filmed yesterday. I'll add that to my other post in Live Sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 07, 2017, 07:58:03 AM
Why Tangier is giving two legs? That makes me unfair.

It is supposed only one leg within a population of 950,000 people. I checked in the sightings thread are Jody, #Basketball, #Eaters, #Twins, #YaleDebaters and #Violinists spotted in Tangier.

The only teams hadn't seen in Tangier are #Skiers, #Indy500, #LifeGuards or #YogaMoms (one of them are possibly eliminated in Antwerp).

The information I found and that picture was posted just over 24 hours ago, so it had to have been from the leg filmed yesterday. I\ll add that to my other post in Live Sightings.

As so, Leg 4 hasn't begun yet. So Gibraltar is totally small and unfair to visit there. Leg 4 would be going to start around Saturday late night/Sunday night Tangier time heading to Eastern Europe.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:02:06 AM
Claude I disagree with you.

Bottom line is THIS COULD BE LEG 4 OR LEG 3, we need to figure it out.

Fair doesn't mean a thing. :groan:

SO please do NOT word your spec as fact..we do not know right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:04:42 AM


Depending on when this picture was posted, this could be from Leg 4 (?) taking place today?

No. Morning of OCT 5. Tangier time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 07, 2017, 08:06:52 AM
Calibound summed it up very nicely.
I don't think there was time for another leg between Antwerp and Tangier.

As teams checked in in the afternoon of 10/04 in Belgium, and were then spotted a day later, it technically might have been a KOR, staying in Belgium for another leg. But I'm pretty sure we would've got sightings - the Antwerp leg was really well documented, even making Belgian TV!

The only other option is that maybe there was a leg on 10/05, and so Debaters flew there from Amsterdam. But it was reported they weren't in a rush. And there would be a very small timeframe to travel to Tangier and have tasks taking place on 10/06, even if this was a KOR.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:11:18 AM
The 8 blue things could have been Gnome stands? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 08:16:31 AM
Calibound summed it up very nicely.
I don't think there was time for another leg between Antwerp and Tangier.

As teams checked in in the afternoon of 10/04 in Belgium, and were then spotted a day later, it technically might have been a KOR, staying in Belgium for another leg. But I'm pretty sure we would've got sightings - the Antwerp leg was really well documented, even making Belgian TV!

The only other option is that maybe there was a leg on 10/05, and so Debaters flew there from Amsterdam. But it was reported they weren't in a rush. And there would be a very small timeframe to travel to Tangier and have tasks taking place on 10/06, even if this was a KOR.

Exactly. And the flight from Amsterdam to Tangier (that Debaters were waiting for) didnt arrive until after 8pm local time on 10/5. So my thoughts are that the leg had started that afternoon and finished the morning/afternoon of 10/6 in Tangier as the teams would have had to be stopped at some point due to HoO type task. Whether it be rapelling from that house or something else.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 08:17:11 AM
The 8 blue things could have been Gnome stands? ???

That makes more sense than my initial thoughts.  :funny:

I thought they were just added as decoration based off what the poster of the picture said
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:18:08 AM
Lets look at some pics again. This is the last frame of the video. NBA is running towards a station, I THINK there is another team there already.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/last%20cap.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:24:47 AM
Play with these, see if they help on ID's.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/last%20cap.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked2.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked3jpg.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked4jpg.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked5pg.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%20Xmarked6.jpg)

Ignore the numbers on the last two.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 08:28:16 AM

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20Racers%206.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 08:37:10 AM
What if the missing leg was split between locations?

In recent years the VAST majority of legs fall into this format: travel-tasks-pit stop

BUT that wasn’t always the case, especially so in the early seasons- some legs went tasks-travel-pit stop, and some even went tasks-travel-pit stop (S1L3- all tasks in Paris, then travel to Marseille for Pit Stop)

Tasks could’ve been started before we saw Henry/Evan at Schiphol, and finished when teams arrived in Tangier that night
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 08:48:44 AM
What if the missing leg was split between locations?

In recent years the VAST majority of legs fall into this format: travel-tasks-pit stop

BUT that wasn’t always the case, especially so in the early seasons- some legs went tasks-travel-pit stop, and some even went tasks-travel-pit stop (S1L3- all tasks in Paris, then travel to Marseille for Pit Stop)

Tasks could’ve been started before we saw Henry/Evan at Schiphol, and finished when teams arrived in Tangier that night

Its possible... but then again, the teams would have gotten into Tangier really late. And then you have to take into account the mandatory rest period. Teams were already doing tasks in Tangier early morning 10/6
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 09:13:10 AM
They like to make teams rough it the first night.

Suppose they did the first clue/leg/reststop all out in the Iceland countryside?

Then next leg intown?

Remember we see them getting gas in the AM. They would have had to do a LOT more driving to empty a full tank than just to that one location.
 2 legs in Iceland nay be our missing bit...but haven't plotted out times. They could make the rest stop10-12 hours.
First leg is keep them miserable lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 07, 2017, 09:14:59 AM
That could explain that earlier leaked clue. It mentioned a glacier outside of town.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 09:17:11 AM
hmmm but weren't all the teams (minus 1) spotted leaving Keflavic Airport for Amsterdam?

If there were 2 legs in Iceland, that would mean the #RingGirls were the 2nd team to go missing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 09:18:44 AM
The clue I posted with additional info was for their first clue. NYC to Iceland. We know they were in airport about 6AM IIRC? so one full leg that day.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 09:19:23 AM
The teams landed AT Keflavic airport at about 6am local time didnt they?

The started arriving in Reykjavic town center at about 12pm local time..

That seems like enough time to head to the glacier and then do a task and then head to Reykjavic where the pit stop was
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 07, 2017, 09:31:49 AM
Cancel that Iceland idea.

Confirmed with source that the intown TAR sighting was OCT 2.


First sighting at the gas station was around 8:10am

Joey Chestnut sighting was around 1:47pm


The video was taken around 12:45ish

So must have been the kind of car rental that doesn't start you with a full tank.

SO one full leg. Waterfall/something else/town/maybe more.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 02:52:04 PM
Possible Goat Yoga FF Sighting

Hair seems like a match for April and the shoes are a match. Only thing is I'm not sure of is if that person is a racer.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 03:04:36 PM
Possible LifeGuard Sighting

Yellow Shirt, Black Backpack, Clue Envelope?

Shoes are a possible match; 90%
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
So we have 6 100% confirmed in Morocco (#TwinMedics, #ProEaters, #Basketball, #Jody, #Violinists, and #Debaters)

Next, we have 2 potential sightings of additional teams (#Lifeguards and #GoatYoga)

If this is indeed leg 4 with only 8 teams, and all findings can be proven accurate- things are not looking good for #Indy500 and #Skiers

HOWEVER, I'm a bit more confident with the possible #Lifeguard ID than the #GoatYoga ID
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 03:15:41 PM
Possible Goat Yoga FF Sighting

Hair seems like a match for April and the shoes are a match. Only thing is I'm not sure of is if that person is a racer.

That's def not goat yoga. Look at the white back of the shoes it's much thicker than hers. Also she has a side shoulder bag on and a different Fanny pack. I don't think this is a racer it looks like a worker who is taking their time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
Possible Goat Yoga FF Sighting

Hair seems like a match for April and the shoes are a match. Only thing is I'm not sure of is if that person is a racer.

That's def not goat yoga. Look at the white back of the shoes it's much thicker than hers. Also she has a side shoulder bag on and a different Fanny pack. I don't think this is a racer it looks like a worker who is taking their time

Its eerily freaky how both females have similar leg positioning.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 04:38:30 PM
I don't buy this yet so I'm going to put this here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 04:47:37 PM
I don't buy this yet so I'm going to put this here.

They're probably just siphoning off every word we say.

Would have been from where someone in the unconfirmed locations thread last night speculated Russia, and then I said how it's too politically sensitive for Americans right now with all the negative media coverage. Therefore unlikely.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 05:00:10 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 07, 2017, 05:28:14 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

*deleted because of all the overreactions.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 07, 2017, 05:44:51 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.


I am not sure though because even though they are a Jody fan they do seem to provide some pictures and seem to be big fans of TAR.. I think somebody has a connection to somebody on TAR crew. 

Also they didn't say Jody got first every time.. THey said they think Jody got 1st on leg 1, around 4th on leg 2, and were in the top 3 this leg but weren't 100% sure..

They also claim the ring girls, and yoga moms are out and are quite hesitant to release information until they are sure.

I mean I am still very skeptical but I wouldn't brush it off completely. 

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 05:53:14 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

I’d like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... I’ll wait but you can’t find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but that’s pretty widely accepted. Where’s a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), where’s a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists won’t like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 07, 2017, 05:56:00 PM
If we are going to call some reporting as misleading and others as facts then let’s get it clear. Nothing on this site is fact. It’s all calculated guesses based on sightings and limited information given. That means anyone can come up with a logical explanatio/assumptionsn of the info we have. So stop calling people names and insulting people because they arrive at different conclusion from yours. Let’s be respectful of each other and keep looking for sightings as it gets us all excited.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:05:43 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

I’d like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... I’ll wait but you can’t find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but that’s pretty widely accepted. Where’s a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), where’s a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists won’t like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.

Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So let’s not just all get along ....  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:11:56 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

I’d like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... I’ll wait but you can’t find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but that’s pretty widely accepted. Where’s a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), where’s a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists won’t like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So let’s not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 07, 2017, 06:14:16 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

I’d like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... I’ll wait but you can’t find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but that’s pretty widely accepted. Where’s a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), where’s a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists won’t like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.

We've had BB players before - remember Brenchel? We do welcome new viewers. The reason why Jody are "saturating" SM right now has nothing to do with the fan base for TAR. It's because it's filming and the vast majority of TAR fans do not want to be spoiled - they avoid SM like the plague. The Jody shippers are still on a high from BB19 and that's understandable.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:15:13 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:


LOL WOW
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:15:54 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:


Lol wow. That's interesting
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:16:19 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:


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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:20:23 PM
Someone wanted proof of all the bragging right? It started immediately from leg one. Can keep going but I won't
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 07, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
People in Jessica and Cody's camp :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 06:25:43 PM
PLEASE MOVE JOEY LOVE/HATE TO JODY DISCUSSION BOARD, THANK YOU
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:26:35 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

I’d like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... I’ll wait but you can’t find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but that’s pretty widely accepted. Where’s a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), where’s a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists won’t like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So let’s not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president

Not selling anyone short, just stating the facts and you can see that she posts where she found the info and took it from as she posts the user in the pic....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:28:04 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

I’d like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... I’ll wait but you can’t find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but that’s pretty widely accepted. Where’s a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), where’s a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists won’t like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So let’s not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president

Not selling anyone short, just stating the facts and you can see that she posts where she found the info and took it from as she posts the user in the pic....

Well thank god we have Jody fans scouring the internet I don't know how Georgia peach ran her site for all these years finding the pictures lol k
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:28:21 PM
Someone wanted proof of all the bragging right? It started immediately from leg one. Can keep going but I won't

Yes, please provide more proof because this is just someone reacting to a fact. Where did they make some claim they won every eg? You’re reaching far but not far enough
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:29:51 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
People in Jessica and Cody's camp :)

I actually talked to the guy who took the pics in Tangier and I was the one who posted that they were the first 4 teams to the detour and he only saw 8 teams...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 07, 2017, 06:30:40 PM
Maanca is right.

There are a lot of fans hardcore rooting for certain teams. So they will take anything someone tweets or posts and believe it without waiting for fact/photo evidence

Just now I was on twitter trying to look for clues and apparently #Jody was confirmed to be one of the first 3 teams to reach the pitstop yesterday!!  :didimiss:

Now I understand why it’s so important to seperate LIVE sightings from discussion/speculation of spoilers

Exactly, every time I go on social media Jody fans are saying that Cody and Jessica were first to the pit stop even though they have no actual evidence of this. It seems they have been saying this for every leg of the race so far because they want them to be in first place. So yes people have to continuously try to separate the facts of what has happened from fans just simply projecting what they would like to see happen during the race.

I’d like to see actual evidence of Jody fans claiming this.... I’ll wait but you can’t find it. Do people claim they won the first leg? Yes but that’s pretty widely accepted. Where’s a claim they won the 2nd (most suspect they got 4th), where’s a claim they won the 3rd or 4th? The only thing said was actually by me, that the guy who took pics of them said those were the first 4 teams he saw at the detour and he saw 8 teams total. Nobody claimed they won, got 2nd 3rd.... nothing other than in the first 4 at this point.

Look i understand some of your tAR purists won’t like BB fans saturating something you love, but if you like your show you should probably welcome the new viewers instead of chastising them. If you look at any social media site the vast majority of Amazing Race talk is from Jody fans, they have one of the largest fan bases of any BB players in a while... maybe be appreciative we are interested and following and stop acting as if we are a burden.



Not to mention... most of the actual facts that have been confirmed about the race, has been found by Jody fans on Twitter, IG, and Facebook that Georgia Peach has reposted here. So, without Jody fans scouring then internet... we may just have a lot more speculation and a lot less knowledge. So let’s not just all get along ....  :)


lol seriously? I think Georgia peach has been working wonders with this site for years and providing accurate information for years without any help from bb fans. Don't sell her short. With that being said Georgia can you move this thread to the b*tch moan or the Jody section. Stop clogging with nonsense

Georgia peach for president

Not selling anyone short, just stating the facts and you can see that she posts where she found the info and took it from as she posts the user in the pic....

Well thank god we have Jody fans scouring the internet I don't know how Georgia peach ran her site for all these years finding the pictures lol k

You’re welcome! Its fun!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 07, 2017, 06:32:19 PM
Who is the source?!  :didimiss:
People in Jessica and Cody's camp :)

I actually talked to the guy who took the pics in Tangier and I was the one who posted that they were the first 4 teams to the detour and he only saw 8 teams...

Oh I’m sorry! You should have said so. You can just post a screenshot of the convo in the live sightings thread. We would all appreciate it. That will help us put together pieces of the leg!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 07, 2017, 06:33:10 PM
Can you guys please talk about Jody in the appropriate thread.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 07, 2017, 06:34:44 PM
where in the world is a "metro fountain"...?

(https://image.ibb.co/eMmEAb/1.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: tennis33 on October 07, 2017, 06:36:48 PM
where in the world is a "metro fountain"...?

(https://image.ibb.co/eMmEAb/1.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

That is in Montreal. They want there on TARcan season 2
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 06:38:27 PM
where in the world is a "metro fountain"...?

(https://image.ibb.co/eMmEAb/1.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

As a Canadian...100% not from this race. That's the Montreal subway entrance sign.

(http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/43608a129480429788dfd9c9ce5a5a77/montreal-subway-entrance-d4nr4g.jpg)

They either got that from Family Edition, or TAR Canada 2, which went to the same place in Montreal
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 06:43:31 PM
That Canada pic was so random I wonder where they found that lol thought they went back for a sec
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 07, 2017, 06:55:45 PM
glad it is not in canada that would be uneventful (no offense canadians)..

I wonder when the first non elimination leg is going to be or if the Morocco leg might have been one?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 07:00:00 PM
Well, if next leg's sightings yield a Speed Bump sign, you'll know :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 07, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
Where was that picture of Cody taken (in the live sightings)

It doesn't look like Morocco ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 07, 2017, 07:05:06 PM
Where was that picture of Cody taken (in the live sightings)

It doesn't look like Morocco ???

It's old and not from the race. I Believe LA and he has a cellphone in his hand
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 07, 2017, 07:05:45 PM
Where was that picture of Cody taken (in the live sightings)

It doesn't look like Morocco ???

Nope. That's LA. Looked up the bus, it says "largest clean-air fleet".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 07, 2017, 07:09:39 PM
Ya that is defenitly a picture from before the race when he and Jessica were walking with her dog in LA lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 07, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
PLEASE MOVE JOEY LOVE/HATE TO JODY DISCUSSION BOARD, THANK YOU
I appreaciate all the new people. It's quite amazing to see so many new users here this season. And I love it! I watched BB19 and Jody were my favorite people, so I'm rooting for them a lot as well.
However, peach even created a new separate thread for all the off-topic discussion about Cody. So please use it!

I acknowledge that many spoilers have come from Jody fans who have possibly not followed TAR before, but there is a way in which this board operates.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 07, 2017, 11:31:50 PM
No leads after a day of searching.

Have a few thoughts/theories I'll share:

Possible Double Elimination in Leg 2

Possible traveled to unknown destination and had a KOR leg (making us on track with 4 legs)

Possible Leg 2 Elimination and another team withdrew (quit, injury, illness or family emergency) - We would still be in Leg 3 for Tangier.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 07, 2017, 11:37:25 PM
No leads after a day of searching.

Have a few thoughts/theories I'll share:

Possible Double Elimination in Leg 2

Possible traveled to unknown destination and had a KOR leg (making us on track with 4 legs)

Possible Leg 2 Elimination and another team withdrew (quit, injury, illness or family emergency) - We would still be in Leg 3 for Tangier.

Or leg 3 was split between Belgium/Morocco and what we see in Tangier is Leg 4
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 07, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
No leads after a day of searching.

Have a few thoughts/theories I'll share:

Possible Double Elimination in Leg 2

Possible traveled to unknown destination and had a KOR leg (making us on track with 4 legs)

Possible Leg 2 Elimination and another team withdrew (quit, injury, illness or family emergency) - We would still be in Leg 3 for Tangier.

Or leg 3 was split between Belgium/Morocco and what we see in Tangier is Leg 4


Is it really possible to have a leg sandwiched between the Antwerp & Tangier leg given the timeframe.  Sightings are getting confusing now ???  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 01:19:49 AM
Let's look at what's odd or different.

1. The Amsterdam to Antwerp to Amsterdam travel, both ways by train? Then the long wait for the flight to Tangier.
2. Phil being at the Frites task (we speculated Pitstop COULD be nearby)

I tend to agree with Fossil on a possible injury/illness/emergency. Normally that team would be considered the eliminated team. But maybe the incident happened during the mandatory rest/post elimination. Or a team was injured but carried on to avoid elimination, then it was later determined they would drop out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 02:32:52 AM
What about a Fast Forward?

Team would bypass all of these tasks, hence not being seen by the eye witness

That could also explain why 8 blue structures were set up, if they were later in the leg- production would be aware that a team completed the FF, and they no longer needed to set the extra structure

That would make it leg 3, which would ease up the timeline

The other options speculated seem... unprecedented

There’s only ever been one other double elim, and that was following a first leg non-elim; it was not a popular twist

The injury theory is plausible, but I rather hope not
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 08, 2017, 04:04:53 AM
It's worth noting that according to Wikipedia, Connor Daly is a type 1 diabetic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 08, 2017, 07:33:56 AM
And now that I take a closer look, I think I see the Twins in the first capture. Next to #Basketball and one of the team members is carrying both bags. Idk though there’s so much going on and apt of the people in the pic are production.

I’m wondering if it’s 2 teams per Station. I want to know if this took place before or after the Roadblock w/ gnomes pics we saw.

Other teams (aside from eliminated contestants) could be at the other detour .. or ahead or behind

If I take other seasons in account, there’s a good chance they have to bring the gnomes to Phil at the pit stop. Which would mean the roadblock happened AFTER the teams running to get to the cartons of fish (gnomes aren’t visible)

I talked with the guy who was in morocco and posted those pics... and according to him they started at the docks and then went to the gnomes. The first 4 teams he saw were the picture with jess, debaters, emts,and violinists.. Also he said he only saw 8 teams which makes me think it was indeed leg 4. And further evidence of this is he has a picture with 8 blue structures which I assumed was significant. (most assumed it was leg 3 just because we had no intel the day prior)

It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:02:22 AM
Welcome G~Ann! Glad you are here!

Yes, that is always posssible. Part of the fun is the unanswered questions,more Detective work to do!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 08:16:51 AM
And now that I take a closer look, I think I see the Twins in the first capture. Next to #Basketball and one of the team members is carrying both bags. Idk though there’s so much going on and apt of the people in the pic are production.

I’m wondering if it’s 2 teams per Station. I want to know if this took place before or after the Roadblock w/ gnomes pics we saw.

Other teams (aside from eliminated contestants) could be at the other detour .. or ahead or behind

If I take other seasons in account, there’s a good chance they have to bring the gnomes to Phil at the pit stop. Which would mean the roadblock happened AFTER the teams running to get to the cartons of fish (gnomes aren’t visible)

I talked with the guy who was in morocco and posted those pics... and according to him they started at the docks and then went to the gnomes. The first 4 teams he saw were the picture with jess, debaters, emts,and violinists.. Also he said he only saw 8 teams which makes me think it was indeed leg 4. And further evidence of this is he has a picture with 8 blue structures which I assumed was significant. (most assumed it was leg 3 just because we had no intel the day prior)

It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.

like I said he only saw 8 teams as well.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 08:48:11 AM
What if the rappelling from the lady’s terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:54:10 AM
Sounds to me it was more extensive than one team... Won't that be a gorgeous location??!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 08, 2017, 08:59:25 AM
I would say Fast Forward is the most plausable option although we don't usually see them this early on with the notable exception of S27.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 08, 2017, 09:00:23 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 09:04:19 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 09:22:38 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

I was at the starting line. There definitively were 11 teams there. We are 3 or 4 legs in, so...

All hands on deck searching please!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 08, 2017, 09:56:20 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 10:08:56 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

But the gnome RB sighting was 8 teams with 8 gnome "holders." A FF would account for only 8 teams seen IF they took one of the holders away, but I can't see them doing that??? (edited)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:34:02 AM
What if the rappelling from the lady’s terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:35:59 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

I think you're overcomplicating things...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
What if the rappelling from the lady’s terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...

She said they launched with ropes off her terrace so I'm pretty sure that's rappelling which TAR usually has once a season so yes
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 08, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
Im still confused by if its leg three of four and if both are in Morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:41:29 AM
What if the rappelling from the lady’s terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...

She said they launched with ropes off her terrace so I'm pretty sure that's rappelling which TAR usually has once a season so yes

ah link? mustve missed that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 08, 2017, 10:50:59 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

I think you're overcomplicating things...

I have been watching from afar and you have jumped down many people's throats on this site. Especially last night. I also find it interesting at the exact time last night it went straight to twitter under #jodysearchparty and user teamjody that people were putting "words in your mouths". This has never gone on on rff before and frankly it isn't right what's happening.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 10:56:40 AM
I haven't extensivly seen everything, is there a possibility of there being 10 teams?

no. What?  they're on the 4th or 5th leg and at least 3 teams have been eliminated....

No what i meant was, if Tangier was leg 3, The Belgium leg could'v been non elim and the task in Tangier was in groups of 2 and there could've been 2 teams we didn't see.

I think you're overcomplicating things...

I have been watching from afar and you have jumped down many people's throats on this site. Especially last night. I also find it interesting at the exact time last night it went straight to twitter under #jodysearchparty and user teamjody that people were putting "words in your mouths". This has never gone on on rff before and frankly it isn't right what's happening.

I wasn't being a dick, just suggesting he was overcomplicating things. IDK what you saw on twitter but wasn't me. I was simply providing info here, correcting people and providing other logic... sorry if your feelings were hurt
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
Okay. Going to say this once more.

Appreciate all the RFF love BUT:

#TAR fun is not an exclusive RFF phenomenon. We like to think we do an outstanding job but we rely on multiple sources. Without the many kind fans sharing on FB and Instagram and Twitter, we would be back in the dark ages of searching photos and blogs weeks later.

RFF has always shared. We teamed with Jokers in the past during BB seasons. We do NOT mind our info being shared.

We DO make every effort to insure that the original poster is credited. Hence the added photo credits to as many pics as possible. Copyright violations are serious business and protecting the rights of the owners of pics is important.

We ONLY ask that those sharing CREDIT us, just as we credit others. And that photos are shared with the correct logos. Removing a logo and Copyrighting a photo that is not yours can result in serious federal legal charges. Lying about sources is also NOT allowed here.

And we make every effort to RESPECT each other here. Personal comments are discouraged...we prefer everyone to keep to the topic.

So let's move on, and GO LOOKING for our teams!! :yess:




Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 08, 2017, 11:09:32 AM
What if the rappelling from the lady’s terrace was a Fast Forward?

Can we find out from the lady who/what she saw?

Main 3 options for task would be Active Route Info, other half of Detour, or a Fast Forward

who even said they rappelled? all that lady said was she saw some crew members...

She said they launched with ropes off her terrace so I'm pretty sure that's rappelling which TAR usually has once a season so yes

ah link? mustve missed that

Page 11....this thread....post 261 (I think)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 11:14:12 AM
Here is the Spoiler post thanks to Plaidmoon's find:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207288.html#msg1207288

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 11:21:08 AM
Okay. Going to say this once more.

Appreciate all the RFF love BUT:

#TAR fun is not an exclusive RFF phenomenon. We like to think we do an outstanding job but we rely on multiple sources. Without the many kind fans sharing on FB and Instagram and Twitter, we would be back in the dark ages of searching photos and blogs weeks later.

RFF has always shared. We teamed with Jokers in the past during BB seasons. We do NOT mind our info being shared.

We DO make every effort to insure that the original poster is credited. Hence the added photo credits to as many pics as possible. Copyright violations are serious business and protecting the rights of the owners of pics is important.

We ONLY ask that those sharing CREDIT us, just as we credit others. And that photos are shared with the correct logos. Removing a logo and Copyrighting a photo that is not yours can result in serious federal legal charges. Lying about sources is also NOT allowed here.

And we make every effort to RESPECT each other here. Personal comments are discouraged...we prefer everyone to keep to the topic.

So let's move on, and GO LOOKING for our teams!! :yess:


Agree, seemed some TAR fans had issue with Jess and Cody fans posting on social media about spoilers.... but they’re also the ones scouring social media to find most of what we’ve seen. I understand people not liking the new people though...  No sense in acting like anyone is better or worse or has super secret sources, we are all just looking for public info others post on social media... we should all share and may the best stalker find it first!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 08, 2017, 11:25:19 AM
France confirmed...working on uploading a video of a team on some kind of bote and a cluebox!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 08, 2017, 11:25:36 AM
Okay. Going to say this once more.

Appreciate all the RFF love BUT:

#TAR fun is not an exclusive RFF phenomenon. We like to think we do an outstanding job but we rely on multiple sources. Without the many kind fans sharing on FB and Instagram and Twitter, we would be back in the dark ages of searching photos and blogs weeks later.

RFF has always shared. We teamed with Jokers in the past during BB seasons. We do NOT mind our info being shared.

We DO make every effort to insure that the original poster is credited. Hence the added photo credits to as many pics as possible. Copyright violations are serious business and protecting the rights of the owners of pics is important.

We ONLY ask that those sharing CREDIT us, just as we credit others. And that photos are shared with the correct logos. Removing a logo and Copyrighting a photo that is not yours can result in serious federal legal charges. Lying about sources is also NOT allowed here.

And we make every effort to RESPECT each other here. Personal comments are discouraged...we prefer everyone to keep to the topic.

So let's move on, and GO LOOKING for our teams!! :yess:


Agree, seemed some TAR fans had issue with Jess and Cody fans posting on social media about spoilers.... but they’re also the ones scouring social media to find most of what we’ve seen. I understand people not liking the new people though...  No sense in acting like anyone is better or worse or has super secret sources, we are all just looking for public info others post on social media... we should all share and may the best stalker find it first!

Those dang Jody fans are at it again.... sighting in Monaco France
https://twitter.com/shinigamishinz0/status/917060623732822017
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
They're doing it again...Alen mentioned the Riviera last night. Bam.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 11:35:52 AM
So is it Monaco or France? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 08, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
These Jody fans are relentless and should Be encouraged to help out more. They don’t give up on their #JodySearchParty it’s getting us really good info. Whether you’re their fan or not, them finding leads help us track TAR30. Good Job TeamJody I applaud your efforts.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 11:38:24 AM
Okay so the Riviera actually appears to be true.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 11:41:44 AM
The team in the lives looks like TEAM Indy 500.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:42:49 AM
The team in the lives looks like TEAM Indy 500.


Yea agreed it looks like Indy in the video. Also basketball players in photo and there is someone with a yellow hat next to him. Could be lifeguard?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
I think jess is at the end of the video
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Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 11:49:05 AM
I dunno if thats her.. I think jess is smaller than her.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:50:39 AM
I think jess is at the end of the video

I don't think so. I've never seen a team sitting at the clue box?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:53:00 AM
This isn't a racer.. it's not a baseball cap. It's a woman wearing a large round hat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 11:55:08 AM
I've heard in the past they have people guarding clueboxes to stop passers-by from trying to take one. She could be one of those.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 11:56:07 AM
I've heard in the past they have people guarding clueboxes to stop passers-by from trying to take one. She could be one of those.

Yes they do. I forgot about that.. and there is also no cameras around too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 12:00:01 PM
I've heard in the past they have people guarding clueboxes to stop passers-by from trying to take one. She could be one of those.

Definitely. And I doubt if she's just a passerby - they would be scooted away.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:02:49 PM


Agree, seemed some TAR fans had issue with Jess and Cody fans posting on social media about spoilers.... but they’re also the ones scouring social media to find most of what we’ve seen. I understand people not liking the new people though...  No sense in acting like anyone is better or worse or has super secret sources, we are all just looking for public info others post on social media... we should all share and may the best stalker find it first!

No issues here...moving on! And first is NOT the goal. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:04:44 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:08:00 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:10:27 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:


I think it's the male from lifeguards if you look st the shorts and legs ..which might make sense because we think she did the roadblock in morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 12:15:43 PM
Did anyone take a look at the person in the yellow hat next to NBA players. I think that's the same lifeguard hat

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:


I think it's the male from lifeguards if you look st the shorts and legs ..which might make sense because we think she did the roadblock in morocco

Oops. I was referring to the other pic.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 12:19:53 PM
RyanAir flight 6008 direct from Tangier to Marseille as possible flight?

Left at about 10am from Morocco, landed about 2pm in France
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
I'm pretty sure the pics we are looking are near the pit stop because that's usually the only
Time they use that big overhead camera.. it also looks like the blonde is the greeter and maybe can see the mat if you look very close. Prob explains why the two teams are next to eachother!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:31:44 PM
Photo here to make references easier.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/St%20Tropez.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:35:23 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It can’t be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:36:19 PM

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:

Can you please mark the photo to show this? I am not seeing all of that...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Awesome summary thanks for this
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:39:41 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It can’t be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Again, please provide your photo proof so we can see what you are. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:41:08 PM
Photo here to make references easier.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/St%20Tropez.jpg)

Basketball and Lifeguard are seen in this photo... he looks really short next to Basketball. Lifeguard is wearing the yellow hat they have on their bags
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 12:41:48 PM

I think that is Brittany from the lifeguards and Shawn from the NBA.

We also have Indy 500.

I think the FF teams have been roadkilled. It's not looking too good at this point. :groan:

Can you please mark the photo to show this? I am not seeing all of that...

Shawn (NBA) is on the left. Brittany (Lifeguards) is on the right.

Indy 500 is in another sighting (instagram post with the cluebox). I'll post the screencaps in a sec.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:43:40 PM
Ale Vera ‏ @doco86  3m3 minutes ago

😻 #sainttropez #france #TAR #amazingrace #bb19 #jody #bb #go en Saint-Tropez https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ_mFBygB-5/

Indy 500 spotted for first time since Antwerp
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 08, 2017, 12:43:59 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It can’t be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

That doesn't make any sense. The 4 teams that were ahead of the others in the gnome race were Jody, Violinists, Debaters and
Twins. Why would they be at risk of not making it to France. The other 3 you mentioned seem more plausible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:45:09 PM
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It can’t be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

That doesn't make any sense. The 4 teams that were ahead of the others in the gnome race were Jody, Violinists, Debaters and
Twins. Why would they be at risk of not making it to France. The other 3 you mentioned seem more plausible.


Because that was the only task that was seen for a few seconds. We don't even know when that task was but we know it was before a pit stop so anything could have happened
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:45:53 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:46:37 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.

That's not Brittany I'm talking about the picture I posted with the lifeguard hat being the male lifeguard at the pit stop with nba
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 08, 2017, 12:46:44 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.

And the girl in the pic is wearing glasses.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 12:47:27 PM
It’s called process of elimination. If this is Leg 5 and Basketball, Lifeguards and Indy 500 were all spotted in France (no non elimination)

Than one of those other teams must have gotten elimated in Morocco unless it was a NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 12:48:52 PM
Is it the best idea to pick out a team based on a hat? Remember last season they were all sharing around that "Keesh" hat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:48:57 PM
Okay, keep showing me. Not convinced that is Brittany.

And the girl in the pic is wearing glasses.

I'm stating lifeguard bc of the pic I posted. Yes I know the glasses is the girl that is a story producer. I'm talking about male lifeguard at the pit stop please look
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
Is it the best idea to pick out a team based on a hat? Remember last season they were all sharing around that "Keesh" hat.

No because that also looks like him and I don't think it's a coincidence he's wearing the hat too. We base off sneakers so what is the difference. There's a better chance basing it off of a hat that resembles him than just sneakers like we do
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
Doco: This is the Indy sighting?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
Doco: This is the Indy sighting?

Yea Georgia. And when you watch the video you can see the blue backpacks and height. Also it's not violinists bc they have the same pants Indy has on in previous  legs
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 12:58:17 PM
If you scroll up they have had that hat on or attached to them in every picture and have been in grey pants or shirt. This matches the lifeguard description in my opinion I'm pretty positive it's him. I attached some pics
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
Thanks!! I FINALLY got it!!

#goingtoeyedoctorasap
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 01:29:34 PM
Ya I am starting to feel like all the F/F teams are out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 08, 2017, 01:31:43 PM
If you scroll up they have had that hat on or attached to them in every picture and have been in grey pants or shirt. This matches the lifeguard description in my opinion I'm pretty positive it's him. I attached some pics

No it's Indy. The water bottle matches earlier. Shots
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 01:34:07 PM
If you scroll up they have had that hat on or attached to them in every picture and have been in grey pants or shirt. This matches the lifeguard description in my opinion I'm pretty positive it's him. I attached some pics

No it's Indy. The water bottle matches earlier. Shots

I know that's Indy in the video I was talking about the picture I posted next to nba. I was saying it was a lifeguard.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 08, 2017, 01:38:59 PM
I can't spot the cluebox precisely, but this (https://goo.gl/maps/hAeKo8KLSCH2) is close.
The pitstop looks like it's this place (https://goo.gl/maps/7PypK7ESo3J2) off the Place de Lices.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 01:43:11 PM
hahaha...just did image
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 08, 2017, 01:46:10 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 08, 2017, 01:48:23 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:
Who knows, a fast forward might have been in play.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 08, 2017, 01:51:37 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:
Who knows, a fast forward might have been in play.
very true, phil said in the start line that there would be many twists this season
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 01:52:09 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:

NOT SEEN NEVER MEANS NOT THERE. Season 28 a final 4 team reappeared after SIX legs. Remember what we re seeing is like looking through a pinhole...we see tiny fragments only.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 01:52:33 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Awesome summary thanks for this
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 01:52:38 PM
I find it really strange we didnt see the indy boys during the morroco' leaks and then they all of a sudden appear in the next leg?  :spy:

This is nothing. Most memorably in Season 28, we had a team who disappeared past leg 2, and they looked like an early goner. All of a sudden, they pop up again much later in leg 7! It can happen.

You never know in filming unless a sighter specifically overhears Phil say "I'm sorry to tell you you've been eliminated from the race"
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 01:54:59 PM
just because we have seen these 3 teams in france doesn't mean they finished first in france though right?  They could be towards the bottom behind some of the other teams.

Also that post is assuming that Morocco was the 4th leg and not the 3rd.. If it was the 3rd it is very likely the last F/F team could have been eliminated in Morocco.. Or Morocco could have been a Non elimination leg for all we know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 08, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
Or Kisha and Jen in TAR 14 #keepthedreamalive
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo
Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted thing checks out, unless that was a non elimination leg, teams at risk of not making it to France are..

Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Twins
Eaters

—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy

Awesome summary thanks for this
We don't know that they were ahead, because that was the only sighting we saw.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 02:08:49 PM
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:10:10 PM
AGAIN: NOT SEEN DOES NOT MEAN NOT THERE!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
 :hearts:
I can't spot the cluebox precisely, but this (https://goo.gl/maps/hAeKo8KLSCH2) is close.
The pitstop looks like it's this place (https://goo.gl/maps/7PypK7ESo3J2) off the Place de Lices.

Thank you SO much!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 02:12:06 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 08, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
All of this ^^^ is why you don't speculate each leg. It's alway advisable to work backwards from a point of visual confirmation or even the final leg. Like Peach said, we only see a wee bit and there are lots of variables in play! For TAR CAN I do up a working chart. (yeah I'm that extreme LOL)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:16:00 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Quote

??? Can be either way though, that is not 10% reliable...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 08, 2017, 02:17:15 PM
Another common downfall for teams... taxis/transportation!!

Anything can happen..

In my original post, i was naming the teams that are at a risk of not making it to France. Basically 3 teams have been spotted in France so far, the rest are at risk. Until we have a sighting that confirms them as making it further..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.
:groan: Jesus Christ, with conclusions like this, we're not gonna get anywhere.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 02:20:51 PM
Ya how you place in the previous leg means nothing.. All it takes is one bad leg/mistake or getting uturned and you're out..  Also teams that never win a leg and finish second to last and towards the bottom often have gone on to win the whole thing before.

However, I did hear from someone I trust that Jody did make it past Morroco so I am inclined to believe they at least made it to France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 08, 2017, 02:21:49 PM
Ok I get it sorry

Another common downfall for teams... taxis/transportation!!

Anything can happen..

In my original post, i was naming the teams that are at a risk of not making it to France. Basically 3 teams have been spotted in France so far, the rest are at risk. Until we have a sighting that confirms them as making it further..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
Ya how you place in the previous leg means nothing.. All it takes is one bad leg/mistake or getting uturned and you're out..  Also teams that never win a leg and finish second to last and towards the bottom often have gone on to win the whole thing before.

However, I did hear from someone I trust that Jody did make it past Morroco so I am inclined to believe they at least made it to France.
Photo confirmation or firsthand confirmation required. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
Location of this sighting: (https://i.imgur.com/UwxivEO.jpg) (and others)

https://goo.gl/maps/61UQVRL4Xm42
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 08, 2017, 04:39:48 PM
The fish was the detour and the gnome was the roadblock the detour is usually before the roadblock 
Jody were in the 1st 4 teams at the road block in Morocco
Jody would of had to have a drastic mess up in Morocco to not make it to France jmo


This happens all the time. First to last. It's possible. Any team can go on any leg.

Right. It could have been a UTurn? We also dont know which of those Morocco tasks came first. Lots of things can happen that we dont see.
??????
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 04:52:01 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 08, 2017, 05:01:55 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 08, 2017, 05:03:13 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.

Well I'm 100 percent positive that's actually dean the audio guy who's been doing this for years. You'd be surprised how inshape they are and yes that camera is brought to every pit stop
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: James_Earl on October 08, 2017, 05:10:45 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.

They totally can outrun most contestants. They also bring the boom mic everywhere they go. It's part of their travel pack and will pull it out when we can't be on mic (ex: when you are in a bathing suit or skimpy outfit).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 08, 2017, 05:18:03 PM
Just my opinion but those camera guys don't look like the same ones in all the other stuff. Doesn't appear that they could run with the contestants for miles. Just saying. And the photo with the big "boom" for sound above and stuff - I don't think they bring that around the world. This seems like it's for something else.

They totally can outrun most contestants. They also bring the boom mic everywhere they go. It's part of their travel pack and will pull it out when we can't be on mic (ex: when you are in a bathing suit or skimpy outfit).

Oh okay! Good to know!! Just didn't look like the camera guys from New York at all.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 05:27:15 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)

I’m going to say Phil

In the photo with #basketball and what could be #lifeguards standing next to each other, they’re lined up and facing a blonde woman who appears to be a pit stop greeter

Hard to see, but standing next to her (obscured by cameraman), looks like could (and should) be Phil

He’s wearing a dark top with brown pants, the same as this picture

It also looks like Phil’s dusty blonde hair here
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 05:28:19 PM
Location of this sighting: (https://i.imgur.com/UwxivEO.jpg) (and others)

https://goo.gl/maps/61UQVRL4Xm42

Great minds think alike! :tup:

Via SLOWHATCH above:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1207574.html#msg1207574
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 05:37:30 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)

I’m going to say Phil

In the photo with #basketball and what could be #lifeguards standing next to each other, they’re lined up and facing a blonde woman who appears to be a pit stop greeter

Hard to see, but standing next to her (obscured by cameraman), looks like could (and should) be Phil

He’s wearing a dark top with brown pants, the same as this picture

It also looks like Phil’s dusty blonde hair here

100% NOT Phil. He does not have a bald spot. A little blurry but this is from the Start--totally different cut.:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 05:37:43 PM

Great minds think alike! :tup:

Via SLOWHATCH above:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1207574.html#msg1207574

My bad I didn't looked older posts  :groan:
I actually just did google search by that "La Renaissance" cafe  :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: mildwall on October 08, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
Possible twin being filmed?
(https://i.imgur.com/avs9DNM.jpg)
Same, little bit better quality (because of details)

I’m going to say Phil

In the photo with #basketball and what could be #lifeguards standing next to each other, they’re lined up and facing a blonde woman who appears to be a pit stop greeter

Hard to see, but standing next to her (obscured by cameraman), looks like could (and should) be Phil

He’s wearing a dark top with brown pants, the same as this picture

It also looks like Phil’s dusty blonde hair here

100% NOT Phil. He does not have a bald spot. A little blurry but this is from the Start--totally different cut.:

Ha. I dont think so. There's another photo and the clothes' color highly matches with each other.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLpu0B9W0AAbxm6.jpg:large)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 07:15:41 PM
Hmmm. Clothes match. Hair sure looks different. (to me,) ???

Thanks for the pic!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 07:16:13 PM

Great minds think alike! :tup:

Via SLOWHATCH above:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1207574.html#msg1207574

My bad I didn't looked older posts  :groan:
I actually just did google search by that "La Renaissance" cafe  :D

The more help the better! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 07:19:29 PM
Hmmm. Clothes match. Hair sure looks different. (to me,) ???

Thanks for the pic!

I think the weird lighting is throwing things off in that pic, the trees are blocking the sunlight, but it’s still sneaking through in patches- you can see bright patches on camera crews clothing as well
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 08, 2017, 07:24:37 PM
Weird the ones spotted together doing the Gnome challenge in Morroco are no where to be seen in France.

I wonder if  Debaters, Violinists, Jody, Twins are all still close together in this race? Maybe they all finished before Basketball players or maybe they were all behind them?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 08, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
Makes me wonder if NBA players were last.  Do they usually have time to pose for pictures after check in.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 07:39:21 PM
Makes me wonder if NBA players were last.  Do they usually have time to pose for pictures after check in.

Depends.  One of the eyewitnesses in Iceland saw teams doing post-leg interviews not too far from the pit stop, other times they're whisked away to a hotel or other location to do so.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 08, 2017, 07:41:35 PM
Thank you, I’ve watched the show for years but have never been on this board before.  It’s all new to me but exciting to follow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 07:54:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lgfJwOv.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 08, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
Look at photo above.  This is not Phil because it looks more like the shorter guy standing next to Phil with jeans and Nike shoes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:01:27 PM
Okay, I cave. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 08, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Also by looking at today pictures of St. Tropez, I noticed at least 3 dfferent helicopters, so that could be the way they reached city.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2017, 08:06:33 PM
Makes me wonder if NBA players were last.  Do they usually have time to pose for pictures after check in.

Usually the eliminated team is kept separated from the others, have their interview and are PDQ heading to sequester. I don't think I have ever seen an eliminated team posing with a fan. My guess is NBA is safe. That pic definitively shows the MAT as well.

And welcome! We are glad you are here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: PikaBelleChu on October 08, 2017, 08:08:38 PM
So the destination routes looks like this:

New York City -> Reykjavik -> Antwerp (via Schiphol train from Amsterdam) -> Tangier -> ??? -> St. Tropez?

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you forgot Kym & Alli on their sightings that they might be gone earlier but you're surprised they made it to Leg 9 in S25.    :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 08, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
Also by looking at today pictures of St. Tropez, I noticed at least 3 dfferent helicopters, so that could be the way they reached city.

It's 840 miles as the crow flies from Tangier to St. Tropez, so that seems too far to be taking helicopters. There was probably not enough time for ferry boats, so airline flights are likely.

If you're talking about getting from Marseille to St. Tropez, it seems like a lot of expense for little purpose. I'd think it would be ideal for self driving with great scenic views. Most likely helicopters were used to get aerial views, especially if they were on yachts doing sailing. Just a guess on my part. I have no evidence they did any sailing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 08, 2017, 08:42:30 PM
My two cents is that Saint-Tropez is only Leg 4. This race has for all recent seasons run on a 21 day schedule, with a leg being filmed over a course of two days (one for travel, one for running the actual leg). The only time I've seen a difference is when they stay in the country and don't need a whole travel day. Looking at the timeline we have, there doesn't appear to be time a mystery leg would have been thrown in, with them being sighted in a city every other day: Reykjavik (Oct. 2), Antwerp (Oct. 4), Tangier (Oct. 6), Saint-Tropez (Oct. 8). I could be wrong here and they somehow did sneak something in there, but I don't buy it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 08, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
It would be pretty cool to have them take a ferry from Tangier to Gibraltar ,do a route marker there and then drive from Gibraltar to Saint-Tropez.
It's a 17h hour drive... so maybe if they left yesterday and arrived late last night. That would make France only leg 4 tho...

I think it would give this leg old-school vibes, from when they had super long legs (aka the driving from Portugal to Morocco in season 4)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 08, 2017, 08:53:25 PM
If it is, I wonder when the first 2 leg country is coming. Would rather it not be France...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 08, 2017, 10:06:25 PM
Well, there are limited flights from Tangier to Casablanca per week, as the teams would most likely board a train from Tanger Morora to Casa Voyageurs in Casablanca, then flight to Nice via Paris CDG.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 08, 2017, 10:09:19 PM
FYI, the 12 shows in 21 days that Phil says is actually is BS, it's usually 22-24 days
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 08, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
Yup. I really don't see enough time for them to have sneaked a leg in there. Plus the race isn't going too slow, we're only a week in and 4 legs have been finished. The pace will be even faster when we have 2 legs in the same country.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 08, 2017, 11:32:47 PM
Facebook post of Shawn Marion in the Paris Airport yesterday. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1705989989413848&set=a.1200659149946937.1073741828.100000085898685&type=3&theater

Thanks! Interesting transfer via CDG....???

I could see it- it did have a fair amount of flights arriving at CDG from Tangier, and Marseille had A TON of flights from CDG arriving today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 09, 2017, 12:18:32 AM
Well, there goes the route of underused countries! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 09, 2017, 12:22:48 AM
Well, there goes the route of underused countries! :funny:

Look on the bright side Bourkie, maybe it is just 1 out of the 11 legs that is overused. At least it is a new part of France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: thebasketmakerswife on October 09, 2017, 12:25:31 AM
The NBA guys are on the left and the Yellow team on right checking in at Pit Stop together. Phil in front of cameraman and there's the "welcome" lady next to him in front of the mat. Wish I could post larger photo but won't let me. See brunoveronefrance on insta - larger photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:51:09 AM
Possible twin sighting on the mat with Phil in Saint Tropez. It hard to tell for me but if it is one of the twins he is on the left of the picture.  https://twitter.com/JessicaCodyBB19/status/917258537167998977


New at this so if I'm not posting in the correct spot please help me out. Thanks in advance!

Alright so assuming this is Leg 4 or 5,

The only teams not spotted at the Amsterdam Train station at the start of Leg 2 (Ring Girls)

The only teams that havnt been spotted since then are Yoga Moms and Skiers

If there have been no non eiminations so far and the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 3. That’s the only chance Either the Yoga Moms or Skiers are still in it. It can’t be both because we have spotted 8 of the teams either in Morocco or France. It would have to Been one  or the other.

If the pictures we saw in Morocco WERE Leg 4 and the whole 8 teams spotted doing the roadblock thing checks out (unless that was a non elimination leg) teams at risk of not making it to France are..



Jody
Violinists
Debaters
Eaters

(If there have been no NEL and Morocco was Leg 3.. theres a possibility Skiers OR Yoga Moms could take the spot of one of the 4 teams above)
—�—�—�-

The teams that made it to France are :

Twins
Basketball
Lifeguards
Indy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 02:19:55 AM
The NBA guys are on the left and the Yellow team on right checking in at Pit Stop together. Phil in front of cameraman and there's the "welcome" lady next to him in front of the mat. Wish I could post larger photo but won't let me. See brunoveronefrance on insta - larger photo.


You can see the larger photo in the LIVE thread here  : http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207545.html#msg1207545
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
My two cents is that Saint-Tropez is only Leg 4. This race has for all recent seasons run on a 21 day schedule, with a leg being filmed over a course of two days (one for travel, one for running the actual leg). The only time I've seen a difference is when they stay in the country and don't need a whole travel day. Looking at the timeline we have, there doesn't appear to be time a mystery leg would have been thrown in, with them being sighted in a city every other day: Reykjavik (Oct. 2), Antwerp (Oct. 4), Tangier (Oct. 6), Saint-Tropez (Oct. 8). I could be wrong here and they somehow did sneak something in there, but I don't buy it.

I think this is the biggest indicator of Saint Tropez being leg 4. I can't find anywhere to logically fit in a whole leg + pitstop, even without any additional flights/travel. Is the ONLY reason we're thinking we're missing a leg the 8 teams in Tangier deal?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 05:51:42 AM
Ok, haven't seen this posted but I'll share this speculation..

the eaters were eliminated in Tangier.

Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally. The gentleman who took pictures and watched said he only saw 8 teams and there were only 8 blue gnome holders so 3 teams had been eliminated.. (ring, yoga and skiers I believe).

He also said that group of 4 (Jody,twins,debaters,violinists) were the first 4 teams, and that they made their way to where he was from the docks where we saw the teams as well. So the pit stop I believe was nearby.

So, how does this factor into the eaters being eliminated?

In France we have seen NBA, lifeguards, and Indy only. 3 of the last 4 teams in Tangier. Leaving out the eaters. So, I think it makes a lot of sense they would've been eliminated in Tangier.

Why haven't we seen the other 4 teams? My thinking is two fold, 1. they may have likely been on an earlier flight than NBA, Indy and lifeguards. 2. NBA team is very noticeable as 6'10 black dudes and so the teams arriving around the same time as them are also seen as well.

Also.. for those questioning timeline... realize we still have 2 likely non elimination legs as well as long flights ahead. I think from France they head to either Australia or Asia which will be long extended flights.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: freds on October 09, 2017, 06:30:33 AM
Tomorrow will be a strike day in France. 30% of the flights are cancelled.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 06:37:40 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 06:52:20 AM
Tomorrow will be a strike day in France. 30% of the flights are cancelled.

they won't be there by tomorrow... likely leave today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 07:21:37 AM
My two cents is that Saint-Tropez is only Leg 4. This race has for all recent seasons run on a 21 day schedule, with a leg being filmed over a course of two days (one for travel, one for running the actual leg). The only time I've seen a difference is when they stay in the country and don't need a whole travel day. Looking at the timeline we have, there doesn't appear to be time a mystery leg would have been thrown in, with them being sighted in a city every other day: Reykjavik (Oct. 2), Antwerp (Oct. 4), Tangier (Oct. 6), Saint-Tropez (Oct. 8). I could be wrong here and they somehow did sneak something in there, but I don't buy it.

I think this is the biggest indicator of Saint Tropez being leg 4. I can't find anywhere to logically fit in a whole leg + pitstop, even without any additional flights/travel. Is the ONLY reason we're thinking we're missing a leg the 8 teams in Tangier deal?

Yes. So, if NOT a missing leg, and there were only 8 gnome holders, then what are we left with? An injury/illness/emergency or a FF in play?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 07:23:17 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 07:28:16 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.
I just wanna repost this for emphasis in every single page of every single thread.

dangambler, you're not making unsupported speculation, but neither is oval. And with that, we have to look at which reasoning makes more sense.
The information about there only being a 12 hour gap between Amsterdam and Tangier is fact. And it makes it impossible to squeeze 2 legs in there imo.
So there was either a Fast Forward in Tangier, following which a gnome stand was removed, or simply the person who made the claim about only 8 teams/8 gnomes being there was wrong. I sure hope it's not an emergency exit by a team though.

That's my thinking.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.

I wonder if we consider someone way behind... then would match with sighter only seeing 8 teams?

Does anyone remember what production did in TAR 11/12/23/other seasons when teams screwed up their flights so bad they couldn't even run the leg? Wonder if they'd just set up for 8 teams and cut the team before they even start a leg... has that ever been a thing? I sense this is heading into wild spec territory too, but it is driving me bonkers because I'm not seeing a logical explanation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 07:32:47 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Here is why they are wild:

The guy saw the 4 teams for literal seconds as they passed by- they may have been at the front at the time, but we DON’T KNOW where they were in their process of completing the Roadblock, or even how well they were doing at it

We also DON’T KNOW the location of the pit stop- could be close by, or in another location/city, which could cause shifts in order placement if some teams were to get lost

Also, we DON’T KNOW whether or not Tangier was an elimination leg or not

We DON’T KNOW with 100% certainty whether Tangier was leg 3 or 4, but many find it unlikely that they were able to squeeze a leg in that short of a window and lean toward leg 3

We have also yet to see the violinists, Jody, or the debaters in France, so we DON’T KNOW if they’re safe or not either

Just because a team was in a good position at one point in a leg, does not mean they did good for the whole rest of it- the only way to know that for certain is to see them check in at the pit stop and to know the order they arrived

We’ve seen things turn terribly for teams between the final task and the pit stop before, so we really can’t assume anything now
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:34:47 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:40:45 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Here is why they are wild:

The guy saw the 4 teams for literal seconds as they passed by- they may have been at the front at the time, but we DON’T KNOW where they were in their process of completing the Roadblock, or even how well they were doing at it

We also DON’T KNOW the location of the pit stop- could be close by, or in another location/city, which could cause shifts in order placement if some teams were to get lost

Also, we DON’T KNOW whether or not Tangier was an elimination leg or not

We DON’T KNOW with 100% certainty whether Tangier was leg 3 or 4, but many find it unlikely that they were able to squeeze a leg in that short of a window and lean toward leg 3

We have also yet to see the violinists, Jody, or the debaters in France, so we DON’T KNOW if they’re safe or not either

Just because a team was in a good position at one point in a leg, does not mean they did good for the whole rest of it- the only way to know that for certain is to see them check in at the pit stop and to know the order they arrived

We’ve seen things turn terribly for teams between the final task and the pit stop before, so we really can’t assume anything now

he saw 8 teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 07:41:23 AM
dangambler, do you still remember the source of the 8 team sighting?
I did a little search and can't find who it originated from, but I think it would be best to try and contact them, asking to identify the teams he saw.

Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.
I'm thinking about that as well, and it is unlikely for production to take a gnome out even if a team has already won the FF and are on their way to PS. But at the end of the day, I'm not buying the additional secret leg speculation, so therefore am considerng everything else.

Also think about it, we have had sighting in every single country so far. They haven't gone compeltely unnoticed, because so many people are searching for sightings all other the web this year. Why do we suddenly believe in the unknown just based on 1 little piece of information?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:43:00 AM
dangambler, do you still remember the source of the 8 team sighting?
I did a little search and can't find who it originated from, but I think it would be best to try and contact them, asking to identify the teams he saw.

Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.
I'm thinking about that as well, and it is unlikely for production to take a gnome out even if a team has already won the FF and are on their way to PS. But at the end of the day, I'm not buying the additional secret leg speculation, so therefore am considerng everything else.

Also think about it, we have had sighting in every single country so far. They haven't gone compeltely unnoticed, because so many people are searching for sightings all other the web this year. Why do we suddenly believe in the unknown just based on 1 little piece of information?

some guy on Facebook... I asked him some other questions but he never responded again
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 09, 2017, 07:49:17 AM
It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.

Also need to consider this from G~Ann earlier today, but i think this whole 8 team in Tangier thing is worth another good look at.

Can someone also link me to where we figured the gnomes were standing on the blue things (PM is fine)? Can't find it anywhere and honestly, I would have thought its a bit dangerous to have the gnomes balancing on those things right on the terrace ledge. Odd.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:53:17 AM
It is possible there were more than 8 blue structures but only 8 seen in the picture, there is room on the right side IMO.

Also need to consider this from G~Ann earlier today, but i think this whole 8 team in Tangier thing is worth another good look at.

Can someone also link me to where we figured the gnomes were standing on the blue things (PM is fine)? Can't find it anywhere and honestly, I would have thought its a bit dangerous to have the gnomes balancing on those things right on the terrace ledge. Odd.

I don't know if that is what they were... never understood why people assumed that, but he did take a picture of them so I assumed they were significant in some way.

And I think this guy had either his home or business that was in that alley looking down upon where they were based on his description, and to repeat again, he said jody, debaters, violinists, and twins were the first 4 he saw... and he saw 8 total
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:00:41 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:10:07 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???

or just the much easier and logical answer of just being 8 teams....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:11:52 AM
Sue, dunno can't be sure. But with a FF production would have to assume no one might go for it, or even go for it and later bail for the regular course.

I wonder if we consider someone way behind... then would match with sighter only seeing 8 teams?

Does anyone remember what production did in TAR 11/12/23/other seasons when teams screwed up their flights so bad they couldn't even run the leg? Wonder if they'd just set up for 8 teams and cut the team before they even start a leg... has that ever been a thing? I sense this is heading into wild spec territory too, but it is driving me bonkers because I'm not seeing a logical explanation.

That was my thinking as well - there would be 9 gnomes available, if only as to NOT tip off other teams or spoilers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 09, 2017, 08:17:34 AM
I also echo the 9 gnomes thinking.

There's a reason why there are always more clues than needed. They're contingencies and spoiler-proofing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 09, 2017, 08:18:48 AM
Ok, haven't seen this posted but I'll share this speculation..

the eaters were eliminated in Tangier.

Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally. The gentleman who took pictures and watched said he only saw 8 teams and there were only 8 blue gnome holders so 3 teams had been eliminated.. (ring, yoga and skiers I believe).

He also said that group of 4 (Jody,twins,debaters,violinists) were the first 4 teams, and that they made their way to where he was from the docks where we saw the teams as well. So the pit stop I believe was nearby.

So, how does this factor into the eaters being eliminated?

In France we have seen NBA, lifeguards, and Indy only. 3 of the last 4 teams in Tangier. Leaving out the eaters. So, I think it makes a lot of sense they would've been eliminated in Tangier.

Why haven't we seen the other 4 teams? My thinking is two fold, 1. they may have likely been on an earlier flight than NBA, Indy and lifeguards. 2. NBA team is very noticeable as 6'10 black dudes and so the teams arriving around the same time as them are also seen as well.

Also.. for those questioning timeline... realize we still have 2 likely non elimination legs as well as long flights ahead. I think from France they head to either Australia or Asia which will be long extended flights.
:groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:19:38 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???

or just the much easier and logical answer of just being 8 teams....

Never said there weren't only 8 teams. I'm sorry if you are feeling annoyed, but this is how we work out problems. Please do not make assumptions. There could be reasons he only saw 8 teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 08:37:12 AM
What about Marseille airport?

Greater distance but shorter travel time to and from it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:39:48 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:40:32 AM
The blue "holders" are permanent architectural features, and as such, you can bet there are more to the right out of frame of that picture. At this point I doubt they were used at all. The film set up was just that - camera vantage. It does not mean the teams had to go up there. IF the 8 team i correct, then a FF in play???

or just the much easier and logical answer of just being 8 teams....

Never said there weren't only 8 teams. I'm sorry if you are feeling annoyed, but this is how we work out problems. Please do not make assumptions. There could be reasons he only saw 8 teams.

Spot on  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:48:10 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 09, 2017, 08:50:00 AM
Is this TAR at all?
(posting from the phone)
(https://i.imgur.com/vFlTHWV.jpg)
EDIT: Okay, checked team pictures, this is not TAR I guess... BTW, picture was taken near Bled Lake in Slovenia (beautiful place for filming TAR)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:07:52 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.

Once again taking all the credit for everything. Enough already. You are ostrizing yourself by trying to find one team and asking for only one team. There are other racers. That is what this site is all about.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:17:03 AM
SO wait... you’re saying that a lot of the “spoilers” we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Here’s the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we aren’t taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because there’s a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldn’t have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post “facts” make sure to back it up with photo evidence
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:23:09 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.

Once again taking all the credit for everything. Enough already. You are ostrizing yourself by trying to find one team and asking for only one team. There are other racers. That is what this site is all about.

taking credit for everything? where did I claim this? I stated the fact that a Jody fan found them in France. I also stated I didn't ask for 1 team.  :chute:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:24:45 AM
Thought process....

Ok, Tangier was leg 4. Logically I think they had 2 legs in Tangier. 1 that finished in Tangier after a flight from Amsterdam, and then the next day locally.

I literally do not see anything to support this. The flight from AMS landed at 8PM (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1207188.html#msg1207188) on 10/05. We have sightings of teams at the fish dock (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207168.html#msg1207168) in the AM (~7AM) on 10/06. You're telling me they ran two legs and had a pitstop in the space of less than 12 hours?

A KOR I would consider but then that would leave us with 9 teams and not 8 on your proposed leg 4.

I'm not gonna even continue with the rest of those wild speculations.

wild speculations? I presented reasoning and logic to backup everything

Maybe I'm not understanding correctly, so help me out.

If we're adamant that there's exactly 8 teams left for our spoiled leg in Tangier, then why did we/do we not know exactly who all 8 teams are? Wouldn't one of the first questions to the sighter be to find out who the rest of the teams are? I mean we have a ton of photos from the start for all 11 teams to help him ID who he saw. Why did our team spend a lot of today looking at grainy pics in Saint-Tropez trying to decipher which other teams are still in it if the Tangier sighter that you spoke to knew who was still in?

I don't want you to take this as a personal attack, I just question every bit of info we get. Something with this 8 teams in Tangier is conflicting with our timelines and it isn't sitting right with me.

well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4... but when I saw the pic of the 8 blue things I assumed it was 8 teams, and then he said he saw 8 teams so I took that as confirmation.


What you said above is exactly the problem we have here. You made it clear you only care about Jess and cody and not the other teams. Maybe your speculation should be moved to that Jody section because we all are here to collectively find out info of the race and ALL the racers. That's great you guys are passionate about finding your one team but I see the questioning on these people's social media pages about only this one team and we are scaring them off to the point they stop answering all together. Georgia and oval work hard to find the timeline and summary of the race and racers not just the positioning of one team.

Let Georgia and whoever search and ask and find out all they can, Jody fans are doing the same.. It was a Jody fan who found them in France so I wouldn't ostracize them too much... And fwiw the person I asked had no idea who I was searching for, rather by his answer of their positioning and how many teams he saw I got the answers I was seeking.

Once again taking all the credit for everything. Enough already. You are ostrizing yourself by trying to find one team and asking for only one team. There are other racers. That is what this site is all about.

taking credit for everything? where did I claim this? I stated the fact that a Jody fan found them in France. I also stated I didn't ask for 1 team.  :chute:

Right above you said:

"well I frankly only cared about where Jess and Cody were in the race and once he said those were the first 4, and they came to where he was from the docks, I didn't follow up to ask about the other 4"
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:26:27 AM
SO wait... you’re saying that a lot of the “spoilers” we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Here’s the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we aren’t taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because there’s a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldn’t have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post “facts” make sure to back it up with photo evidence

I posted what the guy said because I asked him. you're a wee bit emotional about this eh? I never claimed it to be fact, I said it was speculation and reasonable logic. Im sorry if those two things don't sit well with you
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:28:59 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact “Gnome Holders”, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that “havnt arrived yet” according to your poster

We can’t  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 09, 2017, 09:29:31 AM
Is this TAR at all?
(posting from the phone)
(https://i.imgur.com/vFlTHWV.jpg)
EDIT: Okay, checked team pictures, this is not TAR I guess... BTW, picture was taken near Bled Lake in Slovenia (beautiful place for filming TAR)

what if cam check equipment
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:31:39 AM
SO wait... you’re saying that a lot of the “spoilers” we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Here’s the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we aren’t taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because there’s a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldn’t have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post “facts” make sure to back it up with photo evidence

I posted what the guy said because I asked him. you're a wee bit emotional about this eh? I never claimed it to be fact, I said it was speculation and reasonable logic. Im sorry if those two things don't sit well with you

THank you for admitting it. That’s all that we were wanting here. When we get conflicting facts it makes it hard to correctly figure out the race
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 09, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
What about Marseille airport?

Greater distance but shorter travel time to and from it

David is Marseille Airport an International Airport? If so very plausible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:48:51 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact “Gnome Holders”, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that “havnt arrived yet” according to your poster

We can’t  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... personal comments removed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact “Gnome Holders”, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that “havnt arrived yet” according to your poster

We can’t  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

personal comments removed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:50:55 AM
SO wait... you’re saying that a lot of the “spoilers” we have for the Morocco Leg were just speculations you made based off of answers you received from someone who posted pictures of the team running the Leg?

Here’s the issue..

The gentleman only took pictures of the 4 teams we saw. No one has mentioned whether the blue things on top of the building have anything to do with the task or not.

If the gentleman took pictures of the teams doing the roadblock, where are the other photos?
How do we know that the teams came from the task that we saw them doing at the pier? How come we aren’t taking into account that this task could be before the fish detour?

If these teams were really the first 4 teams he saw, why not take pics of the others that came after? (Because there’s a chance that the other teams already came before the ones he pictured)

The genetleman who provided pics wouldn’t have all of this information about what place the teams are in or which task came first  as it was a different person who posted stuff at the pier.!

Then you have to take into account the UTurns, transportation and issues with task.

When you post “facts” make sure to back it up with photo evidence

I posted what the guy said because I asked him. you're a wee bit emotional about this eh? I never claimed it to be fact, I said it was speculation and reasonable logic. Im sorry if those two things don't sit well with you

THank you for admitting it. That’s all that we were wanting here. When we get conflicting facts it makes it hard to correctly figure out the race

you have no facts, and I never claimed fact though I at least have an eye witness account to support my reasoning... you're suggesting theres a mythical 9th blue gnome thing that we have no basis of knowing is in existence.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:52:38 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact “Gnome Holders”, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that “havnt arrived yet” according to your poster

We can’t  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

personal comments removed

at least let them be somewhat based on something...

For example, based on an eye witness account.... not a blurry image where you can't see anything other than a slightly bald head.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 09:55:37 AM
personal comments removed

RFF's Golden Rule:
Have RESPECT for each other, regardless of opinion. This of course includes no flaming/insulting other users and/or their posts.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
THey aren’t even confirmed to be blue gnome things!! And 8 teams aren’t confirmed!!

If they were, you would have posted this convo in the live sightings thread.

And if the 8 blue holders represented 8 teams as you say it did.. why were the other 4 gnomes already missing.. you told us that the teams pictures were the first teams he saw.

Can you see why this is making it hard to update the timeline if we are given conflicting info.


The half picture of the supposed Twin? He is wearing exactly the same thing as he was in the roadblock in Tangier. I won’t jump down the throats of people who provide solid evidence
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 09:59:42 AM
THey aren’t even confirmed to be blue gnome things!! And 8 teams aren’t confirmed!!

If they were, you would have posted this convo in the live sightings thread.

And if the 8 blue holders represented 8 teams as you say it did.. why were the other 4 gnomes already missing.. you told us that the teams pictures were the first teams he saw.

Can you see why this is making it hard to update the timeline if we are given conflicting info.


The half picture of the supposed Twin? He is wearing exactly the same thing as he was in the roadblock in Tangier. I won’t jump down the throats of people who provide solid evidence

you're claiming I said things that I obviously haven't. honestly not worth continuing to explain because I've said the same thing over and over and you just don't care to understand.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:01:11 AM
More from John Davison!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20John%20Davison.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 09, 2017, 10:02:44 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact “Gnome Holders”, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that “havnt arrived yet” according to your poster

We can’t  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

I actually made this speculation because I was trying to help out with the collective effort of trying to find all the teams. Not just one. I don't appreciate you calling my efforts laughable. You've made some pretty outrageous claims yourself. I was basing off a photo not a person who may have seen some teams
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:05:17 AM
THey aren’t even confirmed to be blue gnome things!! And 8 teams aren’t confirmed!!

If they were, you would have posted this convo in the live sightings thread.

And if the 8 blue holders represented 8 teams as you say it did.. why were the other 4 gnomes already missing.. you told us that the teams pictures were the first teams he saw.

Can you see why this is making it hard to update the timeline if we are given conflicting info.


The half picture of the supposed Twin? He is wearing exactly the same thing as he was in the roadblock in Tangier. I won’t jump down the throats of people who provide solid evidence

you're claiming I said things that I obviously haven't. honestly not worth continuing to explain because I've said the same thing over and over and you just don't care to understand.

Then show us the convo that you had with the eyewitness so we can clear everything up. It will help us seperate the fact from the speculation. Please.


Did you not say that the 8 blue things were gnome holders?

Did you not say that the eyewitness told you the teams were doing the gnome task after the fish task?

Did you not tell us that the eyewitness saw 8 teams only?

Did you not say that the teams pictured were the first 4 teams to get to the task?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:08:58 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact “Gnome Holders”, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that “havnt arrived yet” according to your poster

We can’t  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

I actually made this speculation because I was trying to help out with the collective effort of trying to find all the teams. Not just one. I don't appreciate you calling my efforts laughable. You've made some pretty outrageous claims yourself. I was basing off a photo not a person who may have seen some teams

I never said you were laughable. I’m trying to find out the race and not just the placements of the teams I favor. I want to know how it plays out entirely. Unless we have 100% accurate info we can’t make correct assumptions.

We have all been assuming a couple of things as fact because you told us the eyewitness told you they were true.

1. The blue things were gnome holders and involved with the task
2. There were only 8 teams
3. The teams came to that task after the Fish task at the pier
4. The teams we saw in the picture got there first

If these are just speculations, then it doesn’t mean they are true. We appreciate all speculation but when we are being told that an eye witness is making these claims then we find out they are just guesses/speculation it just makes everything more complicated.

I’m sorry if you feel like I’m victimizing you
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 09, 2017, 10:11:15 AM
SO just to confirm Dan,

It is just speculation that these 8 blue things on the top of the building are for the roadblock task?

If this WAS true. There could be 9th one to the right of the picture.

Also, if these were in fact “Gnome Holders”, where are the remaining ones  to be picked up for the teams that “havnt arrived yet” according to your poster

We can’t  just assume the number of decorations on the top of a building in a picture amount to the amount of teams left in the race.

Photos and eye witnesses only
I never claimed they were gnome holders, only that he took a pic of them so they must be relevant.. and the blue things having only 8 just was confirmation to what he saw with his own eyes, you nor I were there, that there were only 8 teams.

We can assume and speculate a lot, hint what this thread is for. Someone speculated some random half pic of a guy who seemed bald was a twin in this thread... I don't see you jumping down his throat even though that assumption is laughable.

I actually made this speculation because I was trying to help out with the collective effort of trying to find all the teams. Not just one. I don't appreciate you calling my efforts laughable. You've made some pretty outrageous claims yourself. I was basing off a photo not a person who may have seen some teams

I never said you were laughable. I’m trying to find out the race and not just the placements of the teams I favor. I want to know how it plays out entirely. Unless we have 100% accurate info we can’t make correct assumptions.

We have all been assuming a couple of things as fact because you told us the eyewitness told you they were true.

1. The blue things were gnome holders and involved with the task
2. There were only 8 teams
3. The teams came to that task after the Fish task at the pier
4. The teams we saw in the picture got there first

If these are just speculations, then it doesn’t mean they are true. We appreciate all speculation but when we are being told that an eye witness is making these claims then we find out they aren’t true it just makes everything more complicated.

I’m sorry if you feel like I’m victimizing you

No no sorry not you. I was talking to the other use @dangambler who said that. I agree with everything you are saying.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 10:18:31 AM
I’m sorry if anyone feels like they are being personally victimized in this thread. As you can see, we take this very seriously as speculation helps us to figure out what is happening in the race. The only issue is when speculation is confused as being fact and then the rest of us have a hard time figuring out the truth with conflicting statements. Everyone is welcome here.

Photos and Eyewitness claims should be well documented before we claim anything is fact <3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 10:26:29 AM
I’m sorry if anyone feels like they are being personally victimized in this thread. As you can see, we take this very seriously as speculation helps us to figure out what is happening in the race. The only issue is when speculation is confused as being fact and then the rest of us have a hard time figuring out the truth with conflicting statements. Everyone is welcome here.

Photos and Eyewitness claims should be well documented before we claim anything is fact <3

Yes agreed! And it would be nice if we all focused on all of the times instead of just trying to piece together information for just one. It is confusing and setting us back more
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 10:27:19 AM
What about Marseille airport?

Greater distance but shorter travel time to and from it

David is Marseille Airport an International Airport? If so very plausible.

Yes!

On top of that, plenty of flights to CDG which could open possibilities further (as well as Frankfurt, Munich, London, Amsterdam, Rome, Milan, Barcelona and Madrid)

Most other flights were back to North Africa or additional cities in France, BUT there were a couple direct flights East (several to Istanbul, as well as one to Prague, Athens, and even Tel Aviv
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 10:46:13 AM
I'm more than happy with people starting their search by looking for Jody sightings- it helps us plot the course really well!

But, to help us get a more well-rounded view of what is happening throughout, let's not stop just with that.

Someone find Jody at an airport, or racing through a town/city?  Great!  Did that person see other teams too?  Could the teams be identified by some of our MANY AMAZING photos of the teams, if they did see others?  Could the person explain exactly what they saw/what the teams were doing/where they were going?

Coming to these eyewitnesses with clear and concise questions, and not bombarding them/overwhelming them can often yield wonderful results beyond just the initial sighting

Keep hunting for the teams (including Jody)!  Don't get discouraged!  Be open to working with others to deciphering the sometimes minimal leads/information we get!  And be okay with being wrong sometimes (I know I can be fairly often)!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
I'm more than happy with people starting their search by looking for Jody sightings- it helps us plot the course really well!

But, to help us get a more well-rounded view of what is happening throughout, let's not stop just with that.

Someone find Jody at an airport, or racing through a town/city?  Great!  Did that person see other teams too?  Could the teams be identified by some of our MANY AMAZING photos of the teams, if they did see others?  Could the person explain exactly what they saw/what the teams were doing/where they were going?

Coming to these eyewitnesses with clear and concise questions, and not bombarding them/overwhelming them can often yield wonderful results beyond just the initial sighting

Keep hunting for the teams (including Jody)!  Don't get discouraged!  Be open to working with others to deciphering the sometimes minimal leads/information we get!  And be okay with being wrong sometimes (I know I can be fairly often)!

Very well said! :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 10:55:11 AM
Regarding the photo attached to your post...
I have definitely seen this pic before, but perhaps only glanced at it, because those tiny stands look really unsafe for the huge Travelocity gnomes. ???
Like, I'd be surprised if production decided to actually store them there, where they can easily fall down, especially if a team accidentally pushed it while picking up. And those things can break easily I assume! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 11:01:57 AM
Regarding the photo attached to your post...
I have definitely seen this pic before, but perhaps only glanced at it, because those tiny stands look really unsafe for the huge Travelocity gnomes. ???
Like, I'd be surprised if production decided to actually store them there, where they can easily fall down, especially if a team accidentally pushed it while picking up. And those things can break easily I assume! :lol:

Right? Nowhere in the caption did the eyewitness say it was for the task. So unless we get proof of the eyewitness saying those blue things were for the gnomes, we can put that down as speculation. And then that would mean that there weren’t 8of them specifically  for 8 teams and so on..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 09, 2017, 11:10:19 AM
I think those blue things on top of the roof have nothing to do with the task, they're more of home decorations. To me it looked like some random bird's eye view of houses in Tangier. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 11:13:36 AM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 11:17:48 AM
Teams are not seen with Gnomes at the Fish task. SO makes perfect sense that that task comes after. Right?

**back to detecting**
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 09, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
What a surprise, the Pro Freestyle Skiers resurface.  :conf: They're with the Indy 500 Racers. It is possible that the Goat Yoga Instructors are eliminated in either Belgium or Tangier.


As taken from the collage of this user:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaCSXkcBHkp/?taken-by=jassy___n_n
(c) jassy___n_n
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 12:58:50 PM
The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL — Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) — if Belgium WAS a NEL then that’s the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 09, 2017, 01:00:38 PM
I think its leg 3 (Morocco) and leg 4 ( France) now.

Leg 5 is next?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 01:08:45 PM
I think its leg 3 (Morocco) and leg 4 ( France) now.

Leg 5 is next?

Agreed!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
Great detective skills!!! So they only teams not spotted in saint tropez and since morocco were

Debaters
Jody
Violinists
Eaters

Correct?

YAY FOR THE SKIERS!!  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:13:39 PM
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL — Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) — if Belgium WAS a NEL then that’s the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL — Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) — if Belgium WAS a NEL then that’s the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far

Lifeguard was in the pit stop picture with nba. And we believe the other was a twin
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:15:27 PM
Great detective skills!!! So they only teams not spotted in saint tropez and since morocco were

Debaters
Jody
Violinists
Eaters

Correct?

YAY FOR THE SKIERS!!  :hoot:

Yes that’s correct.. we assume #RingGirls were last to reach the pitstop Leg 1
We assume #YogaMoms were last to reach the pitstop Leg 2

If Belgium was a NEL though the Yoga Moms could still be racing but would be at risk of not making to to France Leg 4 with the 4 teams mentioned above
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
Great detective skills!!! So they only teams not spotted in saint tropez and since morocco were

Debaters
Jody
Violinists
Eaters

Correct?

YAY FOR THE SKIERS!!  :hoot:

Yes that’s correct.. we assume #RingGirls were last to reach the pitstop Leg 1
We assume #YogaMoms were last to reach the pitstop Leg 2

If Belgium was a NEL though the Yoga Moms could still be racing but would be at risk of not making to to France Leg 4 with the 4 teams mentioned above

Ok great thank you.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL — Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) — if Belgium WAS a NEL then that’s the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far
Actually we have  the twins.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:19:15 PM
Once we spot either Yoga Moms, Debaters, Jody, Eaters, Violinists .. we will have an easier time figuring out who was eliminated in Leg 3 or whether or not there has been a non-elimination leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:21:05 PM
SO happy to see this post!! :ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Are you  100% sure
Lifeguard and twin have not been spotted in France

The Skiers are still in it!

Which means there were 9 teams (or 10 if Belgium was NEL)  in the Morocco Leg..

Yoga moms were eliminated in Belgium (unless it was a NEL)

This means, if Morocco and Belgium WERENT NEL — Jody, Eaters, Debaters and Violinists are at risk of being eliminated in Leg 3 (Morocco) — if Belgium WAS a NEL then that’s the only way the Yoga Moms are still in it and we could add them to the list of at risk teams

Indy, Twins, Basketball, Skiers, Lifeguards are spotted on Leg 4/5 in France so far

Lifeguard was in the pit stop picture with nba. And we believe the other was a twin
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:24:51 PM


Malvear, here is the twin
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 01:29:34 PM
So the picture was posted today, but can we find out if those were from today or yesterday?

AKA mid-leg 4 or start of leg 5?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:30:35 PM
I have asked...so we'll see!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:35:23 PM
I’m so confused
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:36:43 PM
What are you confused about? We can help explain :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:38:08 PM
Help me out guys?

There is no need to quote a post DIRECTLY above you...just use ^^

If you are quoting a string of posts but only need one of them, for gosh sakes edit out the others. Just be sure quote starts with [ quote] and ends with [ /quote].

WAY too much blue around here :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 01:38:45 PM
So much going on in St. Tropez over this last weekend:
Saint Tropez rounded off this extraordinary festival of international yachting.
http://www.segel.de/regatta/europa/voiles-de-st-tropez/voiles-de-st-tropez-08-10-2017/

Photo attached looks like anticipated greeting of some kind? But for who?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ_AtaUHBQU/?taken-by=junigraph

The photo of the girl bending over forward looks like she is demonstrating a game of #pétanque as she has the form and it appears she is in a circle.  Competition?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ6n9U5nRkV/?taken-by=pim_mary
https://twitter.com/shinigamishinz0/status/917236739244281856

Just all speculation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:41:52 PM
It possible for some team not to be seen a couple of legs and be seen in later legs
Like seen on leg 3 and not seen until leg 7
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 01:46:05 PM
cool to see the skiers but it is still entirely possible only the yoga moms and ring girls have been eliminated and all the other teams made it in france if there was a Non elimination leg and Morrocco was only Leg 3..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 01:47:37 PM
It possible for some team not to be seen a couple of legs and be seen in later legs
Like seen on leg 3 and not seen until leg 7

Totally. Season 28 Burnie (final 4) not seen for SIX legs!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 01:48:50 PM
Ok  thanks  that makes be feel better
It possible for some team not to be seen a couple of legs and be seen in later legs
Like seen on leg 3 and not seen until leg 7

Totally. Season 28 Burnie (final 4) not seen for SIX legs!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 01:49:27 PM
The picture by jassy_n_n.  The guy with the hat is Cody
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 09, 2017, 01:50:38 PM
Now this is how you do it. Put your target in the frame, then pretend you're taking a selfie.(source (http://www.glamamor.com/2014/09/EchoParkLake-HistoricLosAngeles.html)) (I doubt if it was deliberate: there are plenty of tourists in Tropez, and the sandal shop probably isn't in the exclusion zone. Still...nice technique)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 01:52:00 PM
The picture by jassy_n_n.  The guy with the hat is Cody

I think thats indy... not Codys bag or hat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 01:52:31 PM
The picture by jassy_n_n.  The guy with the hat is Cody

That's not cody it's Alex Rossi from Indy and Conor is next to him
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 01:54:21 PM
Yes that is entirely possibly! As some teams do the Fast Forward tasks.. or get left behind or jump ahead due to transportation. Also, if all teams except for 1 or 2 decide to do a different detour that doesn’t have an eye witness taking pictures, they won’t be seen. There are plenty of things that factor into it.

But since there is a team that hasn’t been spot since the beginning of Leg 2 competing on Leg 4 or 5 in france , you have to use process of elimination.

There are 11 teams and 1 goes home each leg unless there is a non-elimination.

So since 9 teams have been spotted since Leg 3, it either means Yoga Moms and Ring Girls are out .. OR there was a NEL in Belgium keeping the Yoga Moms in the running.. OR there wasn’t a NEL until Leg 3 Morocco meaning the 9 teams we spotted in Morocco/France should still be in the running.

If Leg 3 Morocco was an elimination leg though then Jody, Violinists, Debaters, Eaters (or YogaMoms if Belgium NEL) must be at risk as the other 5 teams were spotted in France me therefore made it through Morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 01:58:43 PM
There are 2 guys in the shot.  The in the grey cap is Cody and other guy with the black cap is Indy.  I have watched a lot of the BB19 and the live feeds and I am pretty sure that the guy in the forefront is Cody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
I think we are 99% sure already that it's alex Rossi. That's not codys backpack.. Indy has the orange piece on it. That's also Alex's hairline and hat with his race partner right next to him
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
So all we may know is yoga mom and ring girls got eliminated leg 1 and 2
And we are still unsure who got eliminated leg 3
Correct
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
I think we are 99% sure already that it's alex Rossi. That's not codys backpack.. Indy has the orange piece on it. That's also Alex's hairline and hat with his race partner right next to him

Sorry for Jody but I agree that is not Cody and the two guys both carry green backpacks are from the same team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 02:04:31 PM
Not seen doesn't mean eliminated. Look what just happened with the skiers so we don't technically know. I would say most likely ring girls are but yoga moms who knows
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 02:07:43 PM
The guy in the grey cap is Cody.  The backpack is the same one Cody has been carrying all along.   :conf:
Quoting from LIVE, because that is not the place for these posts.

That is definitely not Cody. Indy racers and skiers.
Refer to this screencap for the same hat Alex Rossi of team Indy was wearing earlier in the same leg.

(https://s1.postimg.org/7wv6pgbn6n/2017-10-09_20_05_41-_Alejandro_Peralta_on_Instagram_saint.png)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:10:15 PM
So all we may know is yoga mom and ring girls got eliminated leg 1 and 2
And we are still unsure who got eliminated leg 3
Correct

Since we saw all of the teams at the Amsterdam train station (except for Ring Girls) at the start of Leg 2 , we can assume they were out first and it’s wasn’t a NEL

Since we have seen every remaining team except for the Yoga Moms in Leg 3 (Morocco) and the Skiers survived til atleast Leg 4 France...

This would mean that the Yoga Moms were out Leg 2 Belgium unless it was  a NEL

Now we need to figure out who was eliminated Leg 3 Morocco if it was an elimination leg.. there’s a chance it’s could be the Yoga moms but only if leg 2 was NEL.. otherwise, if there have been no NEL so far.. one of Jody, Debaters, Violinists or Eaters would have had to of gone home on Leg 3 (if it  was an elimination leg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 02:19:21 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 09, 2017, 02:24:08 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:25:04 PM
I agree it’s weird seeing that but you have to take into account other things. Were there more tasks after the gnome task?

How close were those teams from finishing the gnome task?

What position were they in when those pictures were taken? (What teams were ahead and what teams were behind)

Was there a fast forward in play?

Was there a UTUrn in play?

Was it a NEL?

Once the leg ends and the teams head to their next destination , most of the time they get all bunched up again at some point and then it just depends on how well they complete the tasks given to them. Quite often , teams that almost went Home will go on to win the next leg or be at the front of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:26:16 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.

The red clue card is a specific task called a “Roadblock” which only one team member may perform. Hence why Cody, Evan, other twin and other violinist aren’t in the picture
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
That's a roadblock clue. :groan:

Also, there's no logic behind thinking that 4 teams who were together and one point in the race will stay in that group for the duration of the race. They will not.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
The facts are even though we saw a couple of the teams in france spotted we dont know what place they are in! Jody/Yale/Violenists could have easily gotten a earlier flight than this group we saw spotted! They do that sort of stuff all the time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 02:37:24 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
That's a roadblock clue. :groan:

Also, there's no logic behind thinking that 4 teams who were together and one point in the race will stay in that group for the duration of the race. They will not.

If they were the first 3 teams to finish the Morrocco leg than they would be the first 3 teams to at least start the challenge in France.

Nobody said they were bunched together but if they were ahead of the other teams in France than that might be why we haven't seen pictures of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 02:41:38 PM
No, u can't automatically assume first 3 teams to finish one leg will be first 3 teams to start the tasks on the next leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 02:41:50 PM
Just because a team finishes a challenge first on one leg.. doesn’t mean they will get to the challenge first on the next leg..

Transportation and other factors..

We don’t even know that those 3 teams finished the gnome task .. for all we know they are still there trying to figure it out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 02:45:39 PM
Nobody is assuming anything.. This is all merely speculation which I believe is in the subject title for this thread..

I know the first three teams to finish a leg don't always start first but it doesn't have to be always for a theory to be correct it just had to happen this time and sometimes it does..

As someone else mentioned perhaps they got an earlier flight.. Perhaps they got a later flight and are behind all the other teams.. Who knows.

I was just throwing out a plausable idea.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 09, 2017, 02:46:10 PM

Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 02:48:38 PM
I just think it's weird that the 3 teams that haven't been seen were right next to each other in Morrocco in the gnome challenge.. (Violinists, Debate, Jody)..

It is always possible they were ahead of these other teams in France before they were spotted and the pictures started being taken correct?

 Really we will probably have to wait until the next leg to hopefully find out some more info on these teams and start putting the puzzle together.

Agree. Also the Violinists had so sort of disadvantage in the Morrocco leg didn't they. Red clue card? Could have slow them down.
That's a roadblock clue. :groan:

Also, there's no logic behind thinking that 4 teams who were together and one point in the race will stay in that group for the duration of the race. They will not.
My money is on the yale jody and violenist they seem very strong and I wouldnt be surprised if they have an alliance helping eachother.  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 02:53:47 PM

Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.

If this is your first season, it's understandable if you don't know the mechanics of the game yet :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 02:56:03 PM
Nobody is assuming anything.. This is all merely speculation which I believe is in the subject title for this thread..

I know the first three teams to finish a leg don't always start first but it doesn't have to be always for a theory to be correct it just had to happen this time and sometimes it does..

As someone else mentioned perhaps they got an earlier flight.. Perhaps they got a later flight and are behind all the other teams.. Who knows.

I was just throwing out a plausable idea.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean...If I'm typing quickly, I'm going to get right to the point. Speculation  begins with an assumption, and that can be dangerous! Sure teams can reach the first task on the next leg IF things go perfect. And I think - particularly in this case, travel between Tangier & Saint-Tropez was messy.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 02:58:28 PM
Nobody is assuming anything.. This is all merely speculation which I believe is in the subject title for this thread..

I know the first three teams to finish a leg don't always start first but it doesn't have to be always for a theory to be correct it just had to happen this time and sometimes it does..

As someone else mentioned perhaps they got an earlier flight.. Perhaps they got a later flight and are behind all the other teams.. Who knows.

I was just throwing out a plausable idea.

Careful... not all speculation is welcomed in the speculation thread... no matter the logic. Jody, Violinists, and Debaters have consistently been in the front pack, so your theory holds a lot of strong logic behind it. Doesn’t mean it’s fact, just means it’s strongly possible and makes sense
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 03:01:19 PM
Jody, Violinists, and Debaters have consistently been in the front pack

? Proof please?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:04:28 PM



Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.

You and every other TAR newbie are VERY welcome here.

We were all newbies once, myself included. I could not begin to post a link or a picture and the whole team helped me. If they had not taught me research and other  detective skills I would not be here today. I will always be grateful to them all.

ALL eyes are welcome. Questions are fine!! That's how we learn. :ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 03:05:24 PM
Any speculation on what couple appears in the background of photo of Shawn at airport? this is at the Charles de Gaulle Airport and it appears they are departing—like Shawn Marion—is this before or after St. Tropez? My close up would not attach.
I’m new at this so any tutorial would help.
Lots of time but no experience.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 03:08:48 PM

Something tell me I should not post here. Thanks for the :groan: and making me feel so welcome to the site Marionete. I'll just lurk.

Don’t ever feel like you aren’t welcome here. I’ll be happy to explain some of the clues you might see in the race :)

When teams get their clues at the beginning of the leg, or for completing certain tasks, they will be given yellow clue envelopes that say “Amazing Race” on them.

There are a number of different clues that can be inside.

“Route Info” is a blue colored clue. These are usually the clues that help the teams find their next destination. “Fly to Reykjavic Iceland and go to _____ and look for _____” . Once they get to the location, sometimes they have to complete a task or find someone  before getting their next clue. Other times, the clues will be in a box waiting for them to grab.

Jessica with a “Route Info” clue
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/30-Leg%201%20Iceland/Jesscahc4%20BB.jpg)

“Detour” is a yellow colored clue. This is a choice between 2 tasks each with their own pros and cons. So each team chooses one of the 2 tasks to complete. (If there is a UTUrn on the leg and a team has been UTUrned, they will have to complete BOTH detour tasks). An example for this would be something like “Jump or Hike” where the Jump Task is scarier but can take less time to finish. The hike task is something not as scary but could take longer (bungee jumping vs. Hiking down a cliff)

“Roadblock” is a red colored clue. This is a task that only one team member may perform. They get a brief hint/clue about what the task will be and then have to decide which teammate will complete the task before opening the rest of the clue and finding out what they have to do. This one is entertaining because sometimes teams will think it is going To be one thing and ends up being the opposite . (Example, a team member afraid of heights might be tricked into doing the task thinking it has nothing to do with heights when in actual fact it ends up being something that does have to do with heights)

Violinist with a “Road Block” clue
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/TANGIER/Tangier%20%20John%20Davison.jpg)

“Fast Forward” is a green colored clue. This is an OPTIONAL task that is not required that each team has the opportunity of completing only once during the race. It will show up in some of the clue envelopes. Once you complete a fast forward task, that team can go directly to the pitstop for that leg without completing any of the other tasks. Once a team completes the fast forward, they can’t use it again so they must do it wisely when they really need it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seamonkey on October 09, 2017, 03:09:48 PM
In NY, did Phil mention the Express Pass?  Do we know if that is in play this season?

That could be a possible factor..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
Any speculation on what couple appears in the background of photo of Shawn at airport? this is at the Charles de Gaulle Airport and it appears they are departing—like Shawn Marion—is this before or after St. Tropez? My close up would not attach.
I’m new at this so any tutorial would help.
Lots of time but no experience.

Welcome!! This pic?

Facebook post of Shawn Marion in the Paris Airport yesterday. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1705989989413848&set=a.1200659149946937.1073741828.100000085898685&type=3&theater

The guy in the back is not a racer...may be production though...

Check out our support thread. We do have some instructions there on how to attach a picture...bottom line is it cant be too big.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:16:36 PM
In NY, did Phil mention the Express Pass?  Do we know if that is in play this season?

That could be a possible factor..

Not that I heard. He also did not say ____ # countries, ___miles which surprised me. But he was not on a mic and had a very hoarse voice, so possible I missed it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 03:18:49 PM
Look to the left, there is a reflection of a couple, both with hats & backpacks— they appear to be in the terminal. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 03:24:42 PM
It looks like the source of that picture posted in Facebook comments (he was asked about if he saw Jody there) and said that the Basketballers were the only team he saw
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 03:33:28 PM
They look like twins to me, but tbh it's really hard to tell from that photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 03:45:45 PM
I don't think it's a team at all.. The guy who took the picture said he only saw NBA
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 03:53:11 PM
I think you are on to something!!

I'll have to go check start line backpacks...but yes, I def think this looks like a possible team.

EMT's ? ???


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Saint%20Tropez/CDG%20possible%20team.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 03:57:53 PM
I don't think it's a team at all.. The guy who took the picture said he only saw NBA
Then either it's not a team, or the author of the picture didn't realize they were there :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
I zoomed in on the picture and lightened it up. Looks like the twins to me
(http://i67.[banned image hosting site].com/2j1lw1c.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 04:07:09 PM
I think so too. Here are their backbacks from the start: Do I get a hint of green stripe in the pic? ???

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Saint%20Tropez/EMTs%20backpacks.jpg)


I don't think it's a team at all.. The guy who took the picture said he only saw NBA
Then either it's not a team, or the author of the picture didn't realize they were there :tup:

They are on the other side of security I think... he wouldn't have noticed probably.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:08:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=177552356152990&set=pcb.177552412819651

that's #Eaters in the background of first photo

Eaters spotted in Saint Tropez..

Which means Jody, Violinists and Debaters (possibly Yoga Moms if Leg 2 was NEL) are at risk for elimination!

Hoping that Leg 3 was a NEL :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
Yay!!!! #Eaters sighting!  :bunny
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 04:18:01 PM
You newbies are on a ROLL!!

Congrats to ShelbysHat and TravelThe World for TWO awesome finds!!


:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 04:31:20 PM
wow that is a good find.. it does sound like phil was going to say they had a speedbump before it got cut off..

which would mean there was a non elim leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 09, 2017, 04:31:39 PM
Wow, great find.

Therefore, the Ring Girls and Goat Yoga must be the first 2 gone because everyone else was spotted in Morocco and France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 04:37:26 PM
From that video it sounds like Phil says "let's not forget you had the speed bump" which would make Morocco a NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 04:38:37 PM
I am new here, so my apologies if I'm not posting this in the right spot. I found a video on instagram from the Pit Stop in Saint Tropez yesterday that goes along with the pictures of the basketballers standing on the mat. The video has audio and right at the end Phil makes a comment to them about having a Speed Bump, so I'm thinking there must have been a non-elimination leg in Morocco.

Here is the link (credit to @josyandgeorges on instagram):

https://instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

WOW! this may be the best kind of find! Thank you, this confirms that there was a NEL and the basketballers came last in the leg prior.  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
This is awesome!!

So based on our finds..

Leg 1 - ring girls
Leg 2 - yoga moms
Leg 3 - basketball (NEL and speedbump for Leg 4)
Leg 4 - ??? Saint Tropez , France

There couldn't have been an extra leg between Belgium and Morocco because we wouldn't have enough teams (everyone was spotted)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 09, 2017, 04:43:06 PM
Always knew that NBA guys, not Jody, will be saved by NEL.
On a more serious note, great video, but it's infuriating that person used two separate hashtags #amazing #race instead of one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 04:43:27 PM
remember the basketball players were spotted near jody in morroco near the fish? (without gnomes) then another sighting was of jody yale and violineist and twins with the gnomes? the basketball players must have gotten stuck on a mission between the fishing area and the gnomes making them in last in that leg.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 04:44:08 PM
This is awesome!!

So based on our finds..

Leg 1 - ring girls
Leg 2 - yoga moms
Leg 3 - basketball (NEL and speedbump for Leg 4)
Leg 4 - ??? Saint Tropez , France

There couldn't have been an extra leg between Belgium and Morocco because we wouldn't have enough teams (everyone was spotted)

not only that but from the video I think it is also safe to assume the basketball players survived the speed bump and didn't get last in France..

Phil says "And you made it work" makes me think they weren't the last team in France.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:45:56 PM
Yes and Basketball is at the mat with Lifeguards so they are most likely safe too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 09, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
I am new here, so my apologies if I'm not posting this in the right spot. I found a video on instagram from the Pit Stop in Saint Tropez yesterday that goes along with the pictures of the basketballers standing on the mat. The video has audio and right at the end Phil makes a comment to them about having a Speed Bump, so I'm thinking there must have been a non-elimination leg in Morocco.

Here is the link (credit to @josyandgeorges on instagram):

https://instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

Does the person who posted the video not know what order they arrived at the pit stop? It seems like they would hear Phil say.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 04:48:47 PM
Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 04:49:57 PM
Maybe  lifeguard could have came in last

Yes and Basketball is at the mat with Lifeguards so they are most likely safe too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 04:50:58 PM
Phil: "Considering. Considering your size, and the fact that ____you somehow managed to made it work in the end. And let's not forget the Speedb___"

Does he say something about a fall?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:51:34 PM
Its possible . Production would have had them wait to reach the pitstop if they were last though so that they could have a 1 on 1 with Phil
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 04:54:41 PM
Yep, close races for last place happen a lot. Them being together doesn't mean anything :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 04:56:01 PM
OH ok sorry!

Would have helped us on this leg if we saw hem pick up the mat right after :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 04:57:44 PM
If they had to do a speedbump and were last the previous race they could have finished near the bottom of the pack again unless they pulled a cowboys..

who knows the lifegaurds could have been last, but it is good to know there was a NEL...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 04:59:29 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 04:59:38 PM
Is that camera man hat or a camo hat

Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:

Nope.. but if France is leg 4 that would mean all 3 of them made it there .. Maybe they were ahead of the basketball players/lifeguards like i earlier speculated.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 05:02:41 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:

Not spotted in france yet. However, because there was a non elimination leg (basketball came last Leg 3). If Saint TropeZ is  Leg 4 they would have to still be in it up until the pitstop there atleast
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 05:03:59 PM
Have there been any sightings of JODY, violinists or debaters.  :spy:

Nope.. but if France is leg 4 that would mean all 3 of them made it there .. Maybe they were ahead of the basketball players/lifeguards like i earlier speculated.
thats what I am thinking, I sincerely hope Jody made a pact with them. The Yale group seems very smart.  :bunny
Plus the user above made a good point about the basketballers and the yellow team might be at the bottom especially since they had a speedbump in the french leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 05:04:37 PM
Too tall to be Cody, maybe? He barely reaches Shawn's shoulder and that hat is back a bit.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 05:06:16 PM
Is that camera man hat or a camo hat

Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)
No, that's not Cody too tall. Cody is only 5'7
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 05:08:55 PM
Heh, I remember seeing that white-haired cameraman pictured in past seasons. He looks like a rather happy guy when you see his face :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 09, 2017, 05:09:25 PM
I hope so, those 3 teams seem like the strongest in the race. I did like the idea of the 3 of them working together to get further in the game. Alliances has never really appeared in the show, but would be a great angle for the show. I know last season there were several legs that teams worked together to finish the detours. For example to eliminate Vanck and Ashton.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 05:14:45 PM
Maybe violin guys jody and debaters are ahead that why we have not seen them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 05:16:39 PM
It looks like a bridge behind them in that photo

With the opening looking like the hat everyone is trying to speculate about

I think it’s just basketball and lifeguards at the mat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 05:18:43 PM
Maybe violin guys jody and debaters are ahead that why we have not seen them

That's what I was saying.. The basketball players having to do a speedbump makes that theory more likely as they probably wouldn't be one of the first teams to make it at the France pit stop with having to do an extra task..

not impossible but not likely.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 09, 2017, 05:19:21 PM
That would be pretty smart of them to form an alliance, I don't think i've ever seen a 3 team alliance before on AR. They have the smarts and strengths :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: HavaDrPepper on October 09, 2017, 05:23:19 PM
Is that camera man hat or a camo hat

Wait is that a camo hat I see blocked by the camera guy? Maybe there is another team near the bball and lifeguards?
(https://i.imgur.com/coPWmJ2.jpg)

I think it is something on the camera the guy with grey hair is holding.  It seems to move when he moves.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 05:25:13 PM
Sounds like Phil said:

“Well considering your size, and the fact you were able to get them down into the boat, and somehow managed to make it work in the end- and let’s not forget you had a speed-“

Likely ended with bump, but not official

I’m sure Peach has already asked if the eyewitness could divulge what place they came in, or if Phil did mention the speed bump or something else

Let’s just wait before we jump to too many conclusions
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: lulachristine on October 09, 2017, 05:27:54 PM
Regarding the lady that took a picture with the bball team on the mat: would production have allowed that while the leg was still going on? Also how long do teams hang around the pit stop after they finish?

Not new to TAR but new to this side of things. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 05:30:50 PM
Regarding the lady that took a picture with the bball team on the mat: would production have allowed that while the leg was still going on? Also how long do teams hang around the pit stop after they finish?

Not new to TAR but new to this side of things. :)

In the old days no way. But since the well known youtubers etc  season, yes, they have been allowing selfies.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 05:49:59 PM
After seeing the video above, I would speculate that they made it to the mat last and the Lifeguard? team waiting next to them is last & awaiting their turn? The reference to the speedbump is noted as in despite all this you made it.  Or are they both on the mat at the same time? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 05:51:15 PM
"Considering you made it work at the end" translates to me as they completed the speed bump and made it to the mat in time or caught up with the pack. I think nba and lifeguards are safe at this point.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 05:52:08 PM
And if that's the case which I think it is kudos  to NBA for rocking through a speed bump!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 09, 2017, 05:54:37 PM
I'm thinking the lifeguards are safe as well. Phil wouldn't be patting another team on the back so much that is safe while the eliminated team stands there. Doesn't really happen like that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 05:56:04 PM
I also see people reporting on twitter that Jody made it to leg 5? Where is that information? Didn't see them in France at all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 05:57:33 PM
"Considering you made it work at the end" translates to me as they completed the speed bump and made it to the mat in time or caught up with the pack. I think nba and lifeguards are safe at this point.

I think it is safe to say the NBA players are safe I wouldn't rule out the Lifeguards being eliminated just yet though..

Phil is always nice so him saying "somehow you made it work and lets not forget you had a speed" might just be him making excuses for them almost getting last again..

somehow made it work could = barely managed to scrape by.

It's impossible to say really, if only the video was 10 seconds longer.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 09, 2017, 05:58:30 PM
The camo hat appears to be in this photo also. http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1207545.html#msg1207545
but it looks like someone in the crowd, and not a racer.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:00:09 PM
Yea you're right that's not cody that's a Grey camo hat. He wouldn't be standing in back of two teams on the mat too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 06:00:50 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5

I know I read on twitter that they made it to leg 5. I was like huh where???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
Just because we have not seen them france Doesn't mean they don't  make it to leg 5
I also see people reporting on twitter that Jody made it to leg 5? Where is that information? Didn't see them in France at all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 06:06:01 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5

I know I read on twitter that they made it to leg 5. I was like huh where???

I think it is just people assuming things with no evidence now that they found out the basketball players had a speedbump and there was a previous Non elimination leg. 

I mean yes that would likely mean Jody made it to France but it doesn't necessarly mean they completed France same could be said for Violinists and Debaters who we have not seen..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:07:39 PM
Yes agreed ^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 09, 2017, 06:08:25 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
I’m pretty sure Phil was commenting on the difficulty they had with the specific task- maybe loading something onto a boat and/or traveling on that boat somewhere? At very least it sounds like something where their height/weight would be at a disadvantage

I think Phil’s comments are more directed at the task than the leg as a whole, then he added the speed bump comment on top of that

I don’t even know if it confirms them actually having difficulty with the task in question, let alone the entire leg

For all we know, they could have crushed the task despite their size disadvantage, and Phil was amazed by that fear enough to comment on it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:10:57 PM
We re not sure if this is leg 4 or 5, I think 4 but we don't know 100%.

But look at it this way.

If the NBA team had a speedbump, they were LAST in the last leg.

So if Jody was not last in the last leg, then they were in France.

Happy news for the fans!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 06:11:07 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage

Teams are never bunched together for the majority of he race. Even for a few legs. We saw them for a 5 second photo
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:13:48 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage

!) Unlikely teams would be together over two legs. Doesn't happen.

2) NBA could have been first.  The guys in TARCanada went to first despite a speedbump, it happens.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 09, 2017, 06:14:18 PM
Nothing has been spotted from Leg 5 of the race yet..

But yes, fellow Jody fans  :ghug: unless there was a leg in between Tangier, Morocco and Saint Tropez, France . They have made it to at least Leg 4 in Saint Tropez.. How the teams did on that leg we won't know yet until we spot teams in leg 5

I know I read on twitter that they made it to leg 5. I was like huh where???

I think it is just people assuming things with no evidence now that they found out the basketball players had a speedbump and there was a previous Non elimination leg. 

I mean yes that would likely mean Jody made it to France but it doesn't necessarly mean they completed France same could be said for Violinists and Debaters who we have not seen..
It could go for any of the teams really. Just because we see them checking into the pit stop doesn't mean they are safe. Only team we know for sure that made it to leg 5 is NBA rest is just speculation. For all we know  NBA,lifeguards, twins could have been the last three teams and it was a foot run to the pit stop jmo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 09, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
For all we know , Leg 5 hasn’t started yet.

Someone gets eliminated in Leg 4 (Saint Tropez)

Basketball seems to be the only one we can say is safe and through to Leg 5 for now.

Jody
Indy500
Debaters
Violinists
Twins
Lifeguards
Skiers
Eaters

Have all made it to Leg 4 in Saint Tropez but we don’t know who got eliminated yet.

(Unless there was a leg between Morocco and Saint Tropez.. then that messes it up)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 06:16:50 PM
I agree^^^^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 06:18:31 PM
The photo of the Eaters- is it safe to assume they were in proximity of the pit stop, since all other photos from that post were at that location?

If so, why were they standing off to the side from it (almost like lurking in the shadows)?

Did they already check in, and are kinda just hanging out nearby (seems like Basketball hung around the pit stop after they finished)?  Are they waiting out a penalty? Waiting to check in?

It doesn’t seem like they’re racing at that point, in their photo
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: PikaBelleChu on October 09, 2017, 06:21:17 PM
Looks like Kristi and Jen  in the photo made it to St. Tropez too. I bet it's them. if you look at the shirt's color Kristi used,  it's the same from the starting line.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
 I think the one thing that looks relatively much more likely now is that The Yoga Ladies probably went out in Leg 2.


:torche :torche :torche






Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:25:59 PM
Regarding the lady that took a picture with the bball team on the mat: would production have allowed that while the leg was still going on? Also how long do teams hang around the pit stop after they finish?

Not new to TAR but new to this side of things. :)

They don't hang around at all generally. They are rapidly whisked away to do their post leg interviews...and then to food and wherever they are staying.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 06:30:41 PM
Peach, why do you still question that this might have been leg 5 rather than 4?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 09, 2017, 06:31:44 PM
Those are the Lifeguards next to the NBA players on the mat.  (if you match the backpack to her)
But Skiers did make it to St Tropez according to the earlier photo they were with the Indy drivers.
So Yes you are right kinda.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 09, 2017, 06:33:00 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

My French is rusty (non-existent, actually), but I take it the greeter is named Sasha?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:38:22 PM
Peach, why do you still question that this might have been leg 5 rather than 4?

Since there was a NEL, it is less likely for sure.

But I have to see the exact times to be sure.

Like I said, I think France was Leg 4. But haven't had time to sit and count out the hours...will wait on oval. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 06:41:01 PM
Seems a little too tight for another leg. And now that we know there was a Speed Bump that pretty much nulls the idea of a Keep Racing this early on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: PikaBelleChu on October 09, 2017, 06:51:56 PM
If St. Tropez is Leg 4, then I think this is elimination. so my suggestion is:

Reykjavik is definitely an elimination leg, since Kayla and Dessie have not seen after Leg 1.

Antwerp could be elimination too. so that's why Yoga moms not seen after sightings in Leg 4.

Tangier might have been non-elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 06:53:55 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaBw3gEDnNN/

My French is rusty (non-existent, actually), but I take it the greeter is named Sasha?

Yes she is a Model with that company.

here is her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/sasha/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 06:55:42 PM
I know we can jump to conclusions. But we saw jody violinetnist and yale together in past legs. I know the race can change the order at any moment, but if they all managed to stick with eachother, there is a reason we havent seen all 3 of them at all during this leg. Id say 75% they finished before these other teams were sighted or 25% they fell behind.

the new sighting of the bball players having the speedbump just prooves more that they were probably in the lower half of the teams checking into the pitstop. Teams with speedbumps usually are at the disadvantage

Teams are never bunched together for the majority of he race. Even for a few legs. We saw them for a 5 second photo

I think bunched together or grouped together is the wrong word here..  Those three teams were seen close together toward the later stages of the last leg of the race in Morroco and we have seen nothing of them in France so it makes sense for people to speculate espically after finding out that Morocco was a non elimination leg where the basketball players got last.

I doubt they are grouped together still but if they were the first 3 teams to get to France and do the tasks and get to the pit stop before people with their cameras started catching on and snapping photos to their instagram than that could be why we haven't seen them.

Or maybe they were the last 3 teams, or maybe it is unrelated and we haven't seen them because there are just no photos of them that people took.

The basketball players are the most likely to be recognized in France so it makes sense we have seen the most of them.

Hopefully the next leg of the race we will get some more photos of all the teams still left in the game, but as for now all we have is speculation based off the info we are given.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:05:51 PM
just catching up but sounds like I was right about the group in the picture in Tangier of Jody. debaters, twins and violinists being the first group was correct and the other teams were behind. Id guess Jody and other teams got an earlier flight to France and probably why we haven't seen them...

if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 07:10:11 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 07:14:22 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: PikaBelleChu on October 09, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
the route destination of TARUS30 looks more like a combination of S6 and S12 because of the continents they've visited. I think that Tangier is only one leg. if there's an extra task, they could've worked it between Tangier and St. Tropez just like Zimbabwe and France in S26. The other African leg must be somewhere after going to Europe twice.

If not, with Morocco to be 2 legs,  like Burkina Faso in S12.  my speculation is that there's a slight chance that after France there's gonna be a new country right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 09, 2017, 07:26:41 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.

I think the issue you’re running into bud, is the fact you’re wording things as if they are concrete fact

That’s already kinda backfired with the amount of teams in Tangier

We do not know WHEN teams were released for Leg 4, so we don’t know if they got bunched at any airport or even with an HoO when arriving in St. Tropez

It seems that the basketballers were seen at CDG with the medics, so that puts them at least on par with one of the ‘earlier’ teams from that photo in Tangier

We also don’t know how well/poor they or really anyone did at any of the tasks- just that they arrived at roughly the same time as the lifeguards
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 09, 2017, 07:29:01 PM
Dan, what you're saying is not out of the realm of possibility, but it does in no way confirm amything.

All of the teams could have been on the same flight to France for all we know.
Some teams might have been delayed if on a different flight.
There is no way to tell what really happened.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 07:35:49 PM
Yep it is all speculation there is no way to know..

However, The basketball players being last in Morocco and having to do a speed bump here in France means the odds of them being in the second half of the pack are higher than them being towards the top .

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 09, 2017, 07:36:31 PM
I agree ^^^^^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 09, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
Here's what we can agree on (based on given info right now):

Ring Girls were knocked out of the race in Leg 1.

Yoga moms didn't stretch out their potential and were most likely eliminated in Leg 2.

NBA hit a non-elimination in Leg 3 (Morocco).

Leg 4 (France) most likely had nine teams racing. 3 ( Debaters, Jody, Violinists) weren't sighted but they should be racing in this leg due to being sighted in Morocco and the leg 3 was a non-elim. Twins, Lifeguards, Eaters and NBA were spotted at the pitstop for this leg. Indy 500 and Skiers were spotted during this leg but not spotted at the pitstop.

Don't overthink guys!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:13:47 PM
Yep it is all speculation there is no way to know..

However, The basketball players being last in Morocco and having to do a speed bump here in France means the odds of them being in the second half of the pack are higher than them being towards the top .

exactly, and I've never claimed anything is fact, rather logical based on what we know
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 09, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
where did I say anything is a fact? Ive always said its speculation based on logic and some evidence we do have. Again the NBA team being last in tangier goes to show that the group of 4 in tangier was very likely the first teams to finish that pit stop
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:17:29 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.

People have come in first place after a speed bump. That really doesn't mean anything. And if could've been where they all had to take a time slot and could only be 5-10 minutes apart. There are so many different scenarios. Would not assume anyone was front or back of the pack
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:21:00 PM


if nba was last in Tangier id say the teams around them in France were at risk of likely being eliminated

That makes no sense. He could just as well be in first place. You CANNOT know from the info we have.

no sense?

ok lets go slow..

1. they were obviously last in Tangier, meaning they'd start behind other teams, possibly a later flight.
2. they had to do a speed bump
3. add the two together and you get the likelihood they were still in the back of the pack.

People have come in first place after a speed bump. That really doesn't mean anything. And if could've been where they all picked a time and were only 10 minutes apart. There are so many different scenarios. Would not assume anyone was front or back of the pack

you can assume what you like, id rather make educated guesses based on the relevant info we have. to each their own

So yours is only an educated guess? Mine is based off of what happened in previous seasons. Therefore also a educated guess based on relevant information
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 09, 2017, 08:27:25 PM
If you guys want some amazing race trivia. 25 teams have survived elimination after a speed bump and only 17 were eliminated. The odds are in our favor! Go nba!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 09, 2017, 08:29:50 PM
Here's what we can agree on (based on given info right now):

Ring Girls were knocked out of the race in Leg 1.

Yoga moms didn't stretch out their potential and were most likely eliminated in Leg 2.

NBA hit a non-elimination in Leg 3 (Morocco).

Leg 4 (France) most likely had nine teams racing. 3 ( Debaters, Jody, Violinists) weren't sighted but they should be racing in this leg due to being sighted in Morocco and the leg 3 was a non-elim. Twins, Lifeguards, Eaters and NBA were spotted at the pitstop for this leg. Indy 500 and Skiers were spotted during this leg but not spotted at the pitstop.

Don't overthink guys!

^^^ THIS ^^^
Let's all calm down and wait to see what happens on the next leg. Patience!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 09, 2017, 08:45:24 PM
If you guys want some amazing race trivia. 25 teams have survived elimination after a speed bump and only 17 were eliminated. The odds are in our favor! Go nba!

the NBA team would be out of the race in 9th place losing to professional eaters,  two female skiers and 90 pound jessica had they not been saved by production with a non elimination leg so not really sure that is rooting on.  They just got lucky the Yoga moms and Ring girls didn't.

However,  it does look like they rebounded and were at least able to survive the speedbump and stay out of last place in France.. What place they got remains to be seen.

I do know twice in history a team has gone from last to first but never with this many teams left. 

I also did some research and trivia..  and only 11 times has a team in last gone onto the next leg with a speedbump and jumped more than 3 places.  41 times they have not.

Which means there is like an 80% chance based off history that the basketball players were more towards the mid/bottom of the pack.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 09, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
Well, anyway, the next leg should most likely take place tomorrow. See what kind of sightings come out of it and hopefully they help provide us more insight.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 09, 2017, 09:46:06 PM
Yep it is all speculation there is no way to know..

However, The basketball players being last in Morocco and having to do a speed bump here in France means the odds of them being in the second half of the pack are higher than them being towards the top .

exactly, and I've never claimed anything is fact, rather logical based on what we know

Okay, we are done with this discussion. We don't know, YOU don't know, So let's find another avenue to discuss.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 10, 2017, 10:02:54 AM
Please end this discussion right here. Period. It is not suitable for this topic.

Otherwise I SPECULATE that there will be a rapid deletion of some posts...

NEL are preplanned. Not for who comes last, but for which Leg of the race it is.

The Speedbump would already need to be planned in advance for the next leg. I doubt they would spend all that extra money to have a Speedbump set up for each leg of the race just so that they can decide when they are actually going to need to use it so that they can save their favorite team.

NEL are preplanned. Not for who comes last, but for which Leg of the race it is.

The Speedbump would already need to be planned in advance for the next leg. I doubt they would spend all that extra money to have a Speedbump set up for each leg of the race just so that they can decide when they are actually going to need to use it so that they can save their favorite team.

I don't believe that sorry and haven't since season 16 where Jeff/Jordan and the Cowboys both got NEL..

or when they saved brendon and rachel from going home 4th on allstars..

Too sketchy for me but again this is for a different thread.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Y'all can discuss PAST seasons in those Discussion threads.

Wishlists and "Unsupported" Speculation also has a thread.

This thread is SOLELY for DISCUSSION of TAR 30 SPOILERS.

We have a wishlist thread for routes and locations.

Housecleaning.

 :chores
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 10, 2017, 12:57:38 PM
This thread is specifically for working out what we see from sightings. When the convo veers off topic, it makes it difficult for us investigators to do things.  :spy: She's just asking for us to use the appropriate thread. Don't take it personally, it happens every season! And she is going to give me heck now for replying to u in this thread.  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 10, 2017, 01:35:43 PM
off topic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 10, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
So umm... Not a spoiler, but something that caught my eye and seems really interesting..

https://s1.postimg.org/1dbtbbkblr/insta.png

The instagram search for #amazingrace is no longer showing (recent) results. I wonder if someone from production is actually reporting such photos..? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 02:00:42 PM
So umm... Not a spoiler, but something that caught my eye and seems really interesting..

https://s1.postimg.org/1dbtbbkblr/insta.png

The instagram search for #amazingrace is no longer showing (recent) results. I wonder if someone from production is actually reporting such photos..? ???
Think it may just be an issue with insta because I saw some similar comments on twitter about insta hashtags
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 10, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
Scotland maybe?
{♡Savannah Dare♡} 🗼‏
@Dare19Dare

That moment when you realized you were just filmed on the amazing race😎
She's from Scotland
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 02:17:32 PM
SOME JODy fans found this on twitter... possibly Scotland?

https://twitter.com/dare19dare/status/917829715087581186
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 10, 2017, 02:18:39 PM
So umm... Not a spoiler, but something that caught my eye and seems really interesting..

https://s1.postimg.org/1dbtbbkblr/insta.png

The instagram search for #amazingrace is no longer showing (recent) results. I wonder if someone from production is actually reporting such photos..? ???
Think it may just be an issue with insta because I saw some similar comments on twitter about insta hashtags
I'm brand new here and I'm SURE I'm doing this wrong, but just wanted to add that I'm having the same issue with Instagram.  I get the same error on all hashtags, not just TAR tags.  I did report it to them.  Hopefully they are aware and working the issue.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 10, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
OK, thanks Hummingbird! And Welcome to RFF! :waves:
I don't use instagram, just went on to check for sightings, but I'm glad this is not just a TAR-related issue.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 02:24:08 PM
Mine instagram works perfectly, even with #amazingrace (but there's nothing new)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 10, 2017, 02:28:45 PM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 10, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
That looks like Reykjavik airport.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 02:31:44 PM
@Plaidmoon
Sorry, I realized later that I was looking at the pictures first, and then made a comment... I saw her post later actually, so I edited earlier post. My bad.

But anyway, I don't think they would make such a route, so I would be really surprised if they're actually in Scotland.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 10, 2017, 02:34:14 PM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
Quote
I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
Scotland seems unlikely?? That would be a very odd route.

Phil was there in May though, I think for one of his NZ/Nat Geo shows.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUiT-nbAaQD/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 02:37:32 PM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
Quote
I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.

Yah kinda weird, could be a troll? Or maybe she moved to Scotland? On vacation? Who knows... I searched snap in a few coastal cities in Scotland and didn’t see anything...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 02:49:48 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 10, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
She's from Iowa
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 02:59:57 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
She's from Iowa

Let's try to document comments: SHOW us how you know, don't just tell us. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 03:02:25 PM
Her private instagram account says this:

"The world is a book and those who don't travel read only one page"

So, she loves to travel, but I doubt she will accept my follow request :D
She's from Iowa

Let's try to document comments: SHOW us how you know, don't just tell us. :tup:

https://www.instagram.com/savannahdare1/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 10, 2017, 03:03:10 PM
^^ sorry didn't want to post her personal sm all over the board. But, it's listed on her Facebook page
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:03:29 PM


https://www.instagram.com/savannahdare1/

private.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 03:04:55 PM


https://www.instagram.com/savannahdare1/

private.

That's just what I wrote. But you asked for a source.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 10, 2017, 03:08:05 PM
Dozens of people inundating her twitter feed with demands about Jody probably isn't helping much.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 10, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
Dozens of people inundating her twitter feed with demands about Jody probably isn't helping much.  :groan:

I was going to say the same. Especially if the person isn't on SM much. Sigh. I appreciate the enthusiasm but they all know each other!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:19:09 PM
I don't think Scotland is us...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 10, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
Arles Ampitheatre, Arles is a town in the south of France. Our first two leg country?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gigaweek on October 10, 2017, 03:42:48 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaFKg4VnNa_/?taken-by=jonfeinstein
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 03:43:21 PM
Arles is pretty close to St Tropez.  Probable bus, train or self-drive(!).  Could explain lack of sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 10, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
Possible bus routes
https://www.rome2rio.com/s/Saint-Tropez/Arles
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:51:04 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaFKg4VnNa_/?taken-by=jonfeinstein

Thanks and :welcome: to RFF!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1208157.html#msg1208157
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 03:52:16 PM
Arles is pretty close to St Tropez.  Probable bus, train or self-drive(!).  Could explain lack of sightings.

Phil is probably well ahead of the teams. Possibility also that they have not been released yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 10, 2017, 03:52:28 PM
I would bet self drive.  It's a great way to scramble the teams and it's super common and convenient to drive in that area.  The trains take you out of the way unnecessarily.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 03:54:22 PM
Dozens of people inundating her twitter feed with demands about Jody probably isn't helping much.  :groan:

So we have sightings in France at Paris, St Tropez and then Arles... anyone want to speculation on timeline here based on what we know? Because I thought we saw them in Paris after Tropez but that makes no sense...

Guessing they flew into Paris, then flight or train to tropez... then either Bus train or scar to Arles?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 10, 2017, 03:57:19 PM
^ Self drive is a possibility although I'm not sure. What is the max distance they've had people drive before?

Also remember the current time in Arles is 11PM so that could have been filmed this morning or even yesterday.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 10, 2017, 03:59:14 PM
Teams were probably forbidden from flying Ryan Air from Tangier to Marseille due to the airline's baggage policy, so teams mostly flew to Marseille via Paris
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 10, 2017, 03:59:28 PM
SnapMap shows that today was votive festival in Aigues-Mortes, commune located 50 km from Arles. Maybe leg goes through there or it's just coincidence.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
It only about a 2.5 hour self drive. But if I remember correctly, the tolls were about $30 the last time I drove it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
It only about a 2.5 hour self drive. But if I remember correctly, the tolls were about $30 the last time I drove it.

What an your best on a timeline in France of the sightings we’ve seen in Paris, Tropez and now Arles?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:16:52 PM
Paris was just a flight, not a leg.

St Tropez we know

Arles: Most likely?

Phil filmed that standup yesterday and Leg is today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 04:17:02 PM
From Xoruz's link (above).
(https://i.imgur.com/TZ9jZ2q.jpg)

So the tolls would be about the same, but driving saves a lot of time.  If production needs to delay the teams for some reason, bus all the way is the slowest.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 10, 2017, 04:24:17 PM
Paris was just a flight, not a leg.

St Tropez we know

Arles: Most likely?

Phil filmed that standup yesterday and Leg is today

Yah no they’re leg... but I thought we saw NBA in Paris after Tropez? You’re thinking they flew from Morocco to Paris then pit stop was St Tropez... then next leg was a possible drive to Arles?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 04:30:43 PM
^

Yeah, sighting of B-Ball in CDG was from before St. Tropez, but just was found after we started getting sightings in St. Tropez
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:32:46 PM
Paris was just a flight, not a leg.

St Tropez we know

Arles: Most likely?

Phil filmed that standup yesterday and Leg is today

Yah no they’re leg... but I thought we saw NBA in Paris after Tropez? You’re thinking they flew from Morocco to Paris then pit stop was St Tropez... then next leg was a possible drive to Arles?

Why don't you check OUR Timeline? It is up to date and I agree with what is there. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 04:38:07 PM
So: I expect that the Arles leg was today, with Phil's standup yesterday (spec).

SO likely the ST Tropez Pitstop could be an extended one.  If so...

throwing this out there as a possible reason why:


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Arles/Marseille%20to%20Tel%20Aviv%20RFF.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 05:01:23 PM
Hello everyone.

I've been reading here for years, and really appreciate all you guys!  There, in long ago TAR days used to be other sites with great spoilers, spec, sightings, and timelines, but now?  I have to say you are the best.  Thanks!

Now my first post is pure spec, but here goes.  I keep coming back to they left Europe, went to Africa (Morocco) which clicks off another continent for them quite easily.  But WHY go back to Europe right after that?  From south to north in other words?  So, many possible reasons including cool travel arrangements or easier travel arrangements, but I would be pretty surprised if they then headed back again?

So, I'm guessing an eastward leg next, and that brings up the old favorite, India, with possibly one more stop in between?

Just a thought, and yes, I realize anything is possible.  I hope we get some new sightings soon.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 10, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
Why would they extend St. Tropez if the next leg is just two hours away?

My thinking:

10/8 - leg 4 in St. Tropez
10/9 - leg 5 in Arles
10/10 - extended pit stop for teams; Phil films any extra things for Arles and travels to the next location
10/11 - teams travel somewhere for leg 6
10/12 - leg 6 in somewhere

"somewhere" could easily be Tel Aviv or Jordan <3 or really anywhere; there are flights from MRS to London, Frankfurt and Istanbul tomorrow afternoon which could connect to lots of places.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Brannockdevice on October 10, 2017, 05:07:05 PM
I've always wanted them to visit the Camargue, near Arles!  :conf: :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 10, 2017, 05:15:23 PM
Why would they extend St. Tropez if the next leg is just two hours away?

My thinking:

10/8 - leg 3 in St. Tropez
10/9 - leg 4 in Arles
10/10 - extended pit stop for teams; Phil films any extra things for Arles and travels to the next location
10/11 - teams travel somewhere for leg 5
10/12 - leg 5 in somewhere

"somewhere" could easily be Tel Aviv or Jordan <3 or really anywhere; there are flights from MRS to London, Frankfurt and Istanbul tomorrow afternoon which could connect to lots of places.


leg 3 was morocco
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 05:20:33 PM
Hello everyone.

I've been reading here for years, and really appreciate all you guys!  There, in long ago TAR days used to be other sites with great spoilers, spec, sightings, and timelines, but now?  I have to say you are the best.  Thanks!

Now my first post is pure spec, but here goes.  I keep coming back to they left Europe, went to Africa (Morocco) which clicks off another continent for them quite easily.  But WHY go back to Europe right after that?  From south to north in other words?  So, many possible reasons including cool travel arrangements or easier travel arrangements, but I would be pretty surprised if they then headed back again?

So, I'm guessing an eastward leg next, and that brings up the old favorite, India, with possibly one more stop in between?

Just a thought, and yes, I realize anything is possible.  I hope we get some new sightings soon.

Welcome Seastars!, and thank you for the kind words!

I agree on another stop. This is the best time of year to go to NEPAL, so I have convinced myself we are finally going there. To do that would almost certainly require a stop in India...Mumbai would work, esp if Cape Town enters the picture. (PURE SPEC)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
Why would they extend St. Tropez if the next leg is just two hours away?

My thinking:

10/8 - leg 4 in St. Tropez
10/9 - leg 5 in Arles
10/10 - extended pit stop for teams; Phil films any extra things for Arles and travels to the next location
10/11 - teams travel somewhere for leg 6
10/12 - leg 6 in somewhere

"somewhere" could easily be Tel Aviv or Jordan <3 or really anywhere; there are flights from MRS to London, Frankfurt and Istanbul tomorrow afternoon which could connect to lots of places.

Phil films his standup before...then races to keep ahead. Generally does not hang around the following day.

The reason for an extended PitStop could be the flight I posted. That particular one is not a DAILY flight. So hold them back to make it work.

Again ...spec. They could equally well head to SO Africa or India...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 05:55:05 PM
Sorry if I missed this, but do we have confirmation about when the Arles intro was filmed?  A specific date or time?  I've looked but can't find one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Dzony95 on October 10, 2017, 06:03:18 PM
Since we don't know when was that video in Arles is taken, there's MAYBE a possibility that Arles was a 1st part of a leg in France (Marseille airport->Arles->St. Tropez) and, again, MAYBE both cities were included in one leg.

Got ths thinking only because France is overused, and there's no other evidence in Arles.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 06:03:25 PM
We do not. Prob yesterday or today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 10, 2017, 06:08:22 PM
I know nothing is concrete. But do we think we’re on Leg 5 or 6?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 06:13:40 PM
Thanks, it makes sense that it could have been the beginning of the one ending in St. Tropez, rather than more backtracking, but hopefully we will find out soon.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 06:20:07 PM
General consensus (first two legs pretty much confirmed, others not-so-much):
Leg 1 NYC to Reykjavik, Iceland
Leg 2 Reykjavik to Antwerp, Belgium (via Amsterdam)
Leg 3 Antwerp to Tangier, Morocco
Leg 4 Tangier to St Tropez, France (via CDG, Paris?)
Leg 5 St Tropez to Arles, France
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 10, 2017, 06:28:16 PM
I’m just getting caught up.. is there any chance that the Arles Leg could be the same leg as Saint Tropez and we only just found this out?

Aka fly into Marseille —> Arles — > St. Tropez where the pitstop was..

Or is Arles it’s own leg ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 10, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
The video of Phil didn't show up until today, though we haven't pinned down when it was shot.  But there was also a hint that they were headed to Arles after St Tropez.

Hint from @ShenShen333: https://twitter.com/ShenShen333/status/917842327640641537
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 06:36:04 PM
Could the extended pit stop/down-time be to avoid the airport strikes that were happening today?

I know they at very least happened in Nice

How much advanced notice is there prior to one of these strikes?

Like is it something that production could potentially be aware of before the race started, or would be something more of a mid race delay they’d have to adjust for?

Although, I do like Peach’s spec regarding waiting for a particular flight
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 10, 2017, 06:37:59 PM
Theres a post on facebook of the people/company that took the aerial shots even as recent as 5 hours ago taking more shots of the inside of the Arena where Phil was standing outside.  its safe to assume they are still in Arles, France. And the same company also shot aerial shots from St. Tropez port on Sunday...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1898783547106835&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AfreekNSheets on October 10, 2017, 06:40:04 PM
they also posted these shots; and the comments/conversations translates to Mar Didier saying he was on a job. it would make sense since i have heard people say on here they do hire local people for some jobs. this is a french company that shoots aerial shots for moveis and tv shows per their website. 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1897904647194725&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1898327350485788&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1898676307117559&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jessietrey on October 10, 2017, 07:24:03 PM
Regarding the post above, I think the FB post was saying that production and the racers stayed at a village residence. He is saying they took over the place with over 100 production. I believe this is the place. http://locations.lastminute.com/produit.aspx?lieu_id=366&lihe_id=5389&typp_id=10&utm_medium=meta_search&utm_source=lve&utm_campaign=core_selfcatering&utm_content=summer_hs&utm_term=Grimaud_5389&acntb=selfcatering&date=14/10/2017&duree=7&tag_uci=plve-RKLCCz2zIB8JTfDJ&marque_uci=LVE&org_lve=lve
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:25:26 PM
General consensus (first two legs pretty much confirmed, others not-so-much):
Leg 1 NYC to Reykjavik, Iceland
Leg 2 Reykjavik to Antwerp, Belgium (via Amsterdam)
Leg 3 Antwerp to Tangier, Morocco
Leg 4 Tangier to St Tropez, France (via CDG, Paris?)
Leg 5 St Tropez to Arles, France

There is some discussion that there may be  room for another leg before Tangier.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 10, 2017, 07:31:11 PM
Hmm I don’t think that’s possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 07:33:57 PM
Hmm I don’t think that’s possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin weren’t seen in France


Nvm- I can't read good  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:39:49 PM
Oh good job AfreekNSheets  and Jessietrey!!  :hearts:

Really sounds like the drone shots would be for the leg today.

While it would make sense to also use him for leg 8, he may have been there to film the big sailing meet going on instead, can't be sure

Nice find for the crew quarters!!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
Hmm I don’t think that’s possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

Good point!! This girl needs some SLEEP!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 10, 2017, 07:41:31 PM
Hmm I don’t think that’s possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin weren’t seen in France

Yes but they were seen in Morocco, so for there to be another leg BEFORE Morocco there would have had to be another NEL assuming Morocco was a NEL where the basketball players placed last.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 10, 2017, 07:44:17 PM
Hmm I don’t think that’s possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin weren’t seen in France

Yes but they were seen in Morocco, so for there to be another leg BEFORE Morocco there would have had to be another NEL assuming Morocco was a NEL where the basketball players placed last.

Sorry, thought it read AFTER Tangier, not BEFORE  :groan: :funny:

I'll adjust my previous post
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 10, 2017, 07:45:16 PM
Hmm I don’t think that’s possible anymore for the leg before Tangier.. that would mean 2 NEL in a row

We have seen 9 teams since Tangier , so if the Speedbump the Basketballers were getting told about was for that leg; that would make the Tangier Leg NEL

We have only seen 6 teams since Tangier

Jody, Debate, and Violin weren’t seen in France

I meant during hun.. sorry

We have seen 9 teams all together between Tangier and France.. only teams missing are Ring Girls and Yoga Moms

So I’m saying there couldn’t be a leg between Antwerp and Tangier otherwise there would have had to have been 2 NEL back to back.. (assuming Basketball came last in Tangier and survivor St Tropez Leg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 10, 2017, 07:54:02 PM
so do we think they already did this leg in france or they are still waiting to start the next leg and have a really long pit stop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 10, 2017, 07:55:53 PM
Hmmm we may have to rethink when the ARles leg was shot. It could have been yesterday.

The drone guy says he left yesterday! He might have just been hired for background shots, but normally they wuld also do overhead race shots. So I think that means the ARles leg was yesterday.

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Sheesh...I really hate posting production stuff...but this is over and done. :( Too late now!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 10, 2017, 08:15:03 PM
Hmmm we may have to rethink when the ARles leg was shot. It could have been yesterday.

The drone guy says he left yesterday! He might have just been hired for background shots, but normally they wuld also do overhead race shots. So I think that means the ARles leg was yesterday.

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Sheesh...I really hate posting production stuff...but this is over and done. :( Too late now!

That just makes so much sense to me, I have a hard time believing that TAR producers would go backwards twice in a row, I know it's possible, but seems so strange to me.

That's the former Club Med I believe, and a nice one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 10, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
There is a photo of a boat in the evening of 08/10 at Saint-Tropez and Phil mentioned boats while talking to the NBA team, so it must be that the racers were there that day/evening.

The resort, which he had already left by the evening of 09/10 has been identified by jessietrey.
It is in Grimaud, a little village right next to Saint-Tropez. It's not in Arles, which I got the impression you think, Peach.
He added a comment with that photo, saying he arrived late the previous night and woke up to that view. So that night must have been the pit stop.

The photo from Arles was posted during the day of 10/10, which would suggest a different leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TAR789 on October 10, 2017, 09:42:48 PM
There is also this:

https://www.facebook.com/aeromaker.fr/videos/1741837826121383/?id=100009256257155&hc_ref=ARTA2BunpT0iukccNfiyYcjj2lSXEvyeJ6pSyuNVKthn9DnJocaqe-pe_sUhTTDo6A8&fref=nf

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En transfert vers les Baux de Provence…

#Aeromaker #Drone #CBS #TheAmasingRace

Les Baux de Provence was TAR's 3rd Pitstop, and is only 30 minutes away from Arles by car
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 10, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Hmmm we may have to rethink when the ARles leg was shot. It could have been yesterday.

The drone guy says he left yesterday! He might have just been hired for background shots, but normally they wuld also do overhead race shots. So I think that means the ARles leg was yesterday.

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Sheesh...I really hate posting production stuff...but this is over and done. :( Too late now!

Makes more sense to me, as staying in a country means no need for a travel day and is usually filmed the day after the previous. This is all based on the summaries I've put together over the last few years and shouldn't be taken as fact. But I would suggest:

Leg 01: Reykjavik, Iceland (Oct. 2)
Leg 02: Antwerp, Belgium (Oct. 4)
Leg 03: Tangier, Morocco (Oct. 6)
Leg 04: Saint-Tropez, France (Oct. 8)
Leg 05: Arles, France (Oct. 9)
Leg 06: TBD (Oct. 11)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 11, 2017, 12:11:22 AM
So, they DID film in Arles? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: REPDATHLR on October 11, 2017, 09:38:02 AM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
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I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.

Yah kinda weird, could be a troll? Or maybe she moved to Scotland? On vacation? Who knows... I searched snap in a few coastal cities in Scotland and didn’t see anything...
She's in Europe.


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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 10:08:10 AM
She hasn't tweeted anything in the last two weeks except the tweet about being filmed which doesn't give a location. She could be vacationing just about anywhere. Most likely she's in Scotland I think, though I find it odd TAR would go back to the west.

After a bit of research I don't think she is in Scotland - probably Iowa... she has been to Scotland though.
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I'm a girl that loves the idea of traveling and living in Scotland. Family is everything to me and repeated laughter.

Yah kinda weird, could be a troll? Or maybe she moved to Scotland? On vacation? Who knows... I searched snap in a few coastal cities in Scotland and didn’t see anything...
She's in Europe.


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:welcome: to RFF! And thanks for the update. I agree, we can confirm that.

But I think we should move on and leave this young woman alone now.  Most of her info is private so RFF is going to respect that. If she makes another public (twitter, etc) post about this >> fair to share.

Thanks so much !
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:04:09 PM
Thanks for the video peach and annak!

At least it gives us a flyout point. Are we sure that it is a TAR crew?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 11, 2017, 02:09:18 PM
Video works for me now!
Thanks to annak, but did she report seeing any teams or have any idea where to/when they were leaving?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 11, 2017, 02:11:51 PM
A Jody fan found this, assumed to be in the Uk ( guy lives in Kingsley Uk)

https://twitter.com/jessicacodybb19/status/918186054766784513

https://twitter.com/shenshen333/status/918190786256175105

This person seems to take bonk it was from Tangier, sorry you can delete if you want
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 02:22:19 PM
She found, did not take, this video. And I agreed it looks like TAR crew. Have just checked possible flights.

Assuming vid taken approx. 630PM local, departure should be approx. 30 min later.

Destinations sadly only suggest a connection elsewhere, likely Paris or Frankfurt.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:24:02 PM
Paris would be the larger hub, does TAR usually schedule flights back to back or with a layover?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
Paris would be the larger hub, does TAR usually schedule flights back to back or with a layover?

Usually it's up to the teams to find flights- although they'll sometimes have pre-booked flights for more obscure destinations
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 02:31:58 PM
I see flights to Madrid, Munich, Rome, and both Paris airports that fit within that timeline

I'll look at each of those airports to see if there's any stand-out flights that fit within our timeline
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
Paris Orly departures are pretty mundane from 8-10pm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
Usually it's up to the teams to find flights- although they'll sometimes have pre-booked flights for more obscure destinations

What I was asking is how close do they cut the flights? Is it up to the teams discretion? It seems silly for them to book something without at least a 45 min to 1hr gap between flights.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 11, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
Season 4 they did MRS to AMS for a leg in Amsterdam.

For many reasons, I wonder if they had time to visit the Château d'If in Marseille... :escape
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 02:45:29 PM
Assuming Frankfurt:

These are my two favorite options that could fit the time frame:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/FRA%20to%20PRA%20possible.jpg)


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/FRA%20to%20CPT%20possible.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 02:52:49 PM
Assuming CDG these two would be my favorites. Keep in mind many other options available.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20TelAviv%20possible.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20JNB%20possible.jpg)

Tel-Aviv or Cape Town or Prague are all  very strong  possibilities.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:55:34 PM
Some really interesting ones at CDG. Here's an oddball but it might be too remote and not give much options when it comes to flying on from this location.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 11, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Delhi and Tokyo are also options.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 11, 2017, 02:57:52 PM
Assuming CDG these two would be my favorites. Keep in mind many other options available.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20TelAviv%20possible.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/possibilities/CDG%20to%20JNB%20possible.jpg)

Tel-Aviv or Cape Town or Prague are all  very strong  possibilities.
I like Tel Aviv via Paris - especially since there was a direct flight from Marseille to Tel Aviv earlier in the day for Phil to get ahead on:
      
(TLV) Tel Aviv-Yafo El Al 322 11:15 AM
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 03:22:58 PM
Not sure how to screen capture and upload, but Madrid has a flight to Tel-Aviv tonight as well

IB3317/LY8397 departing at 10:05pm

There was a flight to Madrid from Marseille that would fit well with the timeline too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
I have a reason to think that Tel-Aviv should be high on our list. Just saying...not confirming.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 11, 2017, 03:43:13 PM
Would be a very interesting new country. I guess it wouldn't hurt, seeing as Israel has their own TAR that has visited the US in a past season. If they do, I'd assume the teams are reminded to be respectful.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 11, 2017, 04:18:12 PM
I would LOVE to see Israel in TAR!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 11, 2017, 05:06:44 PM
British Airways should have lots of Tel Aviv & Cape Town options via Heathrow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 05:44:18 PM
Fumicino (Rome) has 2 that fit the timeline to Tel Aviv as well

They had a couple others, too: Amman, Athens, Tirana

But they seem less likely
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 11, 2017, 07:06:22 PM
British Airways should have lots of Tel Aviv & Cape Town options via Heathrow.

You are absolutely right, BA has daily flights from Heathrow to Cape Town into the night.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 11, 2017, 10:10:29 PM
After looking close at the video at Marseille Provence Aeroport there is a "coffee" sign with windows above it.  It looks like it is the Starbucks from Hall 1 and flight 1089 actual departure was changed to 6:50 pm and arrival 8:07 pm in Frankfort (all kinds of gate and time adjustments to this flight) This flight matches the gates and time of the video too.  Just saying.  :chute:

Possibly back to Hamburg (coastal city in Germany visited in #16?)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on October 11, 2017, 10:35:44 PM
Nice find! If teams are going to arrive at Frankfurt around 8:07pm some possible destinations not in Europe could be:

Cape Town (Lufthansa 576 10:15pm -> 10:00am+1)

Johannesburg (Lufthansa 572 10:05pm -> 8:30am +1)

Addis Ababa (Ethiopian 707 10:05pm -> 5:55am +1)

New Delhi (Air India 120 9:15pm - 8:30am +1)

Singapore (Lufthansa 778 9:55pm -> 4:15pm+1, Singapore Airlines 325 10:00pm -> 4:25pm +1)

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 11:12:13 PM
Definitely looks like Starbucks

However, that's on the main floor of Hall 1 (like right next to one of the airport entrances), could really be for any flight leaving from Hall 1 in that timeframe

Based on their location and the timing, I would almost think that they weren't going for the Frankfurt flight- if they were just arriving at the airport, and the flight hadn't been delayed, they would've missed it

It would be more likely that they would've been on the other side of security and trying to make sure they were at the correct gate had they been going for the Frankfurt flight, just based on timing of video/original flight time

Just my  :2cents:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 11, 2017, 11:33:38 PM
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=936417940&airlineCode=LH&flightNumber=1089

Reading the Flight Status that flight delayed take off until 6:50 and landed slightly overtime.  If the camera's were there the timing is relevant.  I don't think they want the teams lingering at the airport because then we would have possibly more sightings or photos? idk
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 11, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
It just seems too tight a window for me, unless they were buying tickets just then and the gate was still open and there was no line for security
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 12, 2017, 01:28:43 AM
New to posting! Hope this helps in some way! Our drone guy has posted a new photo of another possible location from around the Arles, France area.  His post read "Yesterday morning. Les baux de Provence" Here's the link to the photo:
 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1899188617066328&set=a.1422075841444277.1073741828.100009256257155&type=3&theater
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:31:39 AM
Thanks so much Hummingbird! Welcome to the Dark Side lol!

That area is close to Marseilles...wonder if it is just for atmosphere or an actual stop? Would make a fun Pit Stop!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 12, 2017, 01:39:15 AM
Just a quick note to everyone at RFF that I’ve had a difficult few months and I hadn’t had any time to help out with a belated deadline now out of the way, health issue under control, and a new schnauzer puppy to raise after Lieb’s unexpected passing in May. (New puppy is Edele, now five months old and happens to be Lieb’s niece.)
Give me a day or two and I will try to catch up with all things RFF and TAR related with the ongoing filming.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 12, 2017, 02:02:25 AM
Thanks so much Hummingbird! Welcome to the Dark Side lol!

That area is close to Marseilles...wonder if it is just for atmosphere or an actual stop? Would make a fun Pit Stop!
He did tag the show, so I'm assuming it has some relevance. Looks like the perfect place to hide a clue box. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 06:14:51 AM
It just seems too tight a window for me, unless they were buying tickets just then and the gate was still open and there was no line for security

Too tight how? They could have been sitting there for 2 hours. We don't know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 12, 2017, 09:10:15 AM
Was that on an airport shuttle?  Rome is a major Alitalia/KLM/Delta hub.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 09:18:27 AM
Was that on an airport shuttle?  Rome is a major Alitalia/KLM/Delta hub.

I don't see why they would do an actual leg there. They were just in Arles, which has a significant ancient Roman connection, including their own colosseum.

Still. Please, please, please let Rome just be a connection city and not a destination. Otherwise, urgh...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 09:19:38 AM
?? fly all over from Marseille to Rome ??

Someone find the Story please? We need the whole thing and youtubed if possible. Record your screen if you have ios 11

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 12, 2017, 09:21:58 AM
No reason to fly all over from Marseille to Rome.

Someone find the Story please?

Unfortunately, there are no morning daily flights from Marseille to Rome, only Nice has a morning flights to Rome.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 09:34:48 AM
It just seems too tight a window for me, unless they were buying tickets just then and the gate was still open and there was no line for security

Too tight how? They could have been sitting there for 2 hours. We don't know.

Just from where they were- ground floor, pre-security

Based off where the cameraman were standing, and the direction they were filming (in relation to the Starbucks in the background), it looks like the team(s) were at a ticket counter- possibly still buying their tickets?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 12, 2017, 09:50:41 AM
This is the route of the line 200:

(https://image.ibb.co/kVdMdw/Roma2.png)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 09:56:17 AM
 :hearts:  I LOVE you guys!!  Great teamwork, and credit to Jody BB for the find.
Carnage... Chills...Alen great job for the fast work!!

Rome seems starnge, but we'll take it. There was this Vatican rumor.... ???

STart seasrching for sightings in ROME please!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 09:58:58 AM
Shawn looks like he’s wearing a very small backpack in that video

The one that is essentially a pouch with pull strings as the straps

Seems an odd thing to wear while racing
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 10:04:17 AM
Here's a thought, what if the sequester place is in Rome? Up out of the main city center at a resort?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
Exceedingly unlikely....but not totally impossible.


Can someone get the ORIGINAL picture please? I have a doggie that Is desperate.... :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 10:09:41 AM
As the race goes on teams empty their bags leg by leg to start to remove unneeded items. By the last leg some teams have no bag. I wouldn't base it off of that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 10:10:19 AM
From the post it sounds like their first stop was Piazza Mancini

Not sure what’s out there beyond the Stadio Olimpico?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
^^^Google maps tells me it's a 37 minute bus ride across the Tiber to Vatican City.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 12, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
If Shawn Marion was seen where's Cedric Ceballos or the camera crew. It's hard to deduce though if this is a leg until we've seen the other teams. ??? I'd agree with Capt. Carnage, Rome could be a sequester place. We've had Tuscany as a sequester place for the Racers in S.29.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:33:31 AM
Where's the Camera Crew in that vid ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
If Shawn Marion was seen where's Cedric Ceballos or the camera crew. It's hard to deduce though if this is a leg until we've seen the other teams. ??? I'd agree with Capt. Carnage, Rome could be a sequester place. We've had Tuscany as a sequester place for the Racers in S.29.

Not going to wandering alone, esp in a major city. The camera crew is...??? ??? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 10:38:00 AM
If Shawn Marion was seen where's Cedric Ceballos or the camera crew. It's hard to deduce though if this is a leg until we've seen the other teams. ??? I'd agree with Capt. Carnage, Rome could be a sequester place. We've had Tuscany as a sequester place for the Racers in S.29.

Not going to wandering alone, esp in a major city. The camera crew is...??? ??? ???

Still waiting but, as of right now, I don't see any sightings on top of the NBA players. Plus, I didn't see a film crew with NBA; could they be sitting down?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 10:41:01 AM
^^^ I doubt crew would sit down on a crowded bus with their equipment???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
So...what are the odds that a pro BB player would just happen to be on a bus with Shawn??

I am starting to think this is something taken at another time, without further info

No partner, no camera crew, possible diff pack (I can't see that) and just...would not be alone EVEN if in sequester.

Production has treated us to faux spoilers before. :sab

 Keep looking, but my money is increasingly on : DISTRACTION. :tup:

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 10:56:19 AM
So...what are the odds that a pro BB player would just happen to be on a bus with Shawn??

I am starting to think this is something taken at another time, without further info

No partner, no camera crew, possible diff pack (I can't see that) and just...would not be alone EVEN if in sequester.

Production has treated us to faux spoilers before. :sab

 Keep looking, but my money is increasingly on : DISTRACTION. :tup:

I actually hope it is and they're somewhere less visited :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 11:00:22 AM
Here is my airport start pic of their packs:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:18:00 AM
cody and jess have been spotted.. They are still in the race.

I don't know how to post picturs but it's on teamjodys twitter.

https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918510310545330176
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 11:18:19 AM
Phew. Back on track with undervisited countries :D

Czech Republic has also only been visited once - the infamous "Franz" task with the Globetrotters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 11:19:57 AM
Double Uturn spotted!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 11:20:43 AM
Double Uturn spotted!

Double Blind U -turn

7 clues also!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:23:09 AM
double blind u turn?!?!!?? wow yikes!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:25:24 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 11:28:41 AM
We have

Twins/Violinists/BB/Skiers

and this mystery team:

Henry and Evan???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:30:25 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?

yes in the pic with the twins... they said they saw all the teams, trying to get more info now of order and what teams they saw
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 11:31:03 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?

Well, if they didn't sign an agreement with the show, they can say anything, sure.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 11:31:28 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?

It appears they did. I can't recall ever seeing a hotel give out that kind of information before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 11:32:33 AM
^^^No not where they stayed! There is a clue box there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

the hotel they stayed at gave out out that information?


It appears they did. I can't recall ever seeing a hotel give out that kind of information before.

wow BVM is not gonna be happy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:37:43 AM
hopefully we can find out how many teams are left and who got eliminated ..

If there are only 7 it could be the basketball players and lifeguards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: smiley on October 12, 2017, 11:38:13 AM
From Prague, there’s many flights to Israel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 11:38:53 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

Skiers and Jody were spotted, and that photo near u-turn looks like Debaters. Maybe hotel meant that there are 2 m/f teams? Would make first 4 boots RingGirls, YogaMoms, Lifeguards and NBA (if sequester is actually in Italy).
Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:41:19 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

Skiers and Jody were spotted, and that photo near u-turn looks like Debaters. Maybe hotel meant that there are 2 m/f teams? Would make first 4 boots RingGirls, YogaMoms, Lifeguards and NBA (if sequester is actually in Italy).
Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

Yes but the lifeguards could have been last, basketball players second to last and then they got eliminated the last leg we have no info on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:42:01 AM
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918509427174592514

The hotel confirmed Jess and cody still in race, and they were running in first with skiers behind them. Also they said only 2 male female teams so I’d guess lifeguards possibly eliminated. Working on getting some more info...

Skiers and Jody were spotted, and that photo near u-turn looks like Debaters. Maybe hotel meant that there are 2 m/f teams? Would make first 4 boots RingGirls, YogaMoms, Lifeguards and NBA (if sequester is actually in Italy).
Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

they said they saw all the teams and jody was first with skiers behind, and they only saw 2 m/f so yes I think its likely lifeguards eliminated... not weird tho because if NBA was eliminated and running back of the pack, and we saw them around lifeguards they likely were too.

If you all remember in St Tropez I said the man who spotted them said Jody, Violinists, Twins and debaters were the first teams he saw so id speculated thats likely why we hadn't seen them in France and only seeing that teams running in the back of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:44:32 AM
yea def agreeing with you here about the lifeguards ^^^^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 11:46:37 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 11:50:36 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 11:52:14 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

why not?  I am sure he was super nice to the lifeguards too (if they got last)..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:53:02 AM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
What if BBall was eliminated in St. Tropez?

Phil could’ve been talking to them about all the difficulties they had, which led to their elimination

But again, they could be anywhere in placing

Does anyone know if production arranges teams on the mat in any particular order based on placement, when multiple teams arrive at the aame time- i.e. right-left first-to-last, or left-right first-to-last?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:54:39 AM
usually only the last leg is in order.. ive seen various orders of other legs doesnt matter left or right =)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
Oh, NBA being last in Saint-Tropez would actually make sense to me. Also would explain them later hanging around pitstop and taking pics with locals.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 11:57:50 AM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 11:59:42 AM
Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg

no idea but damn they need to leave Europe already sheesh
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 12:03:56 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 12:05:00 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.

Either way we aren't going to really know because the double u turn is going to throw everything off
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 12:05:57 PM
There are seven clues in cluebox, so pretty sure it's 7 teams remaining.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 12:08:45 PM
Based on the sightings, I'm thinking

Leg 1 Ring Girls were knocked out.
Leg 2 Yoga moms didn't stretch out their potential and were eliminated.
Leg 3 NBA was saved.
Leg 4 Lifeguards sunk to the bottom of the competition and were eliminated or NBA were eliminated (I'm thinking the former.)
Leg 5 NBA were eliminated or Lifeguards sunk to the bottom of the competition and were eliminated.
Leg 6 Currently - 7 teams left and U-turn also!

We did have an Italy sighting of Shawn from NBA.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 12:11:21 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.

yea, unfortunately they couldn't remember which team was last only the time difference ... still trying.

btw with 7 teams I think our teams still running are
jody
skier
(were first 2 to the hotel)

violinists
debaters
twins
(seen in Prague)

eaters
indy
(don't think we've seen a pic but if only 2 m/f teams left and NBA eliminated, these make most sense)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 12:11:55 PM
some more info**

Jody arrived to hotel first to complete task and was almost 4 hours ahead of the last team

we are trying to find out order and who was last now.

That is referring to this current leg dan correct?
.

Ya it would be good to know who was the last place team and how many teams are left.
Yes it’s the current leg. Jody are the first team to arrive to the clue at the hotel and are 4 hours ahead of whatever team is in last
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 12:13:27 PM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last

No "we" are NOT thinking that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 12:18:52 PM

Although it's weird because in video from Saint-Tropez both Lifeguards and NBA were on the mat at pitstop.

WHy is that weird? That MAT pic does NOT show order. For all we know NBA could have been #1 in that pic.

Lifeguards would need to be last in Saint-Tropez for both them and NBA to be out by Leg 6. And Phil was so congratulatory of Basketball team in front of lifeguards: "Good job, you made that work, even with speed bump, amazing". Didn't expect him to turn to Lifeguards and say "oh, btw, you are last team to arrive, sorry, you are eliminated". Just my opinion.

no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last

No "we" are NOT thinking that.

well I certainly am and it makes a ton of sense logically
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 12:39:36 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 12:49:22 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.

I don't see any pictures at all in the U-Turn frames. Is there another later picture out there that we don't have?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 12, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.

I don't see any pictures at all in the U-Turn frames. Is there another later picture out there that we don't have?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
Loooove the idea of Czech Republic being visited. Such an interesting country that has been shunned by TAR.
The place of the iconic Franz Roadblock. <3

.... but isn't this a bit much of Europe for 1 season..?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 12:55:27 PM
Is anyone looking close at that U-turn photos?  The photo on the right is small but looks like possibly Jess and Cody. Trying to see how many photos are on the ground but one frame looks empty like one team has already been there and took there photo or how does that work?
The photo with the skiers near the u-turn might indicate they A. don't see the U-turn yet, or B. are one of the first teams to get there.

I don't see any pictures at all in the U-Turn frames. Is there another later picture out there that we don't have?

I think that's the debaters. Not Jess and Cody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 12:57:51 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZC0idCgSSN/?hl=en&taken-by=evan.lynyak

yes, i am 95% confident that's Debaters
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 12:59:44 PM
Those pictures are on the ground and haven't been used yet. You can't determine who has been u-turned from that. Every team will have a picture in that pile.

Update: Now that we have a few more pictures we can see that the Violinists were U-turned by Jody. Doesn't look like a blind U-turn after all. That makes sense since they were seen together earlier and must have been neck and neck.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 01:04:20 PM
Have we located exactly where these pictures were taken in Prague? I've looked around and I can't find a building that is similar.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:04:44 PM
ya Don't think jess or cody got uturned.. There is a picture of them at the uturn with no pictures up yet..

They very well could have been the first team to make it to the uturn..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:06:13 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 01:06:40 PM
From the pics in Live Sightings we have:
Jody
Violin
Twins
Lifeguards
Skiers
Debaters

Not seen yet:
Basketball, Indy, Eaters
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 12, 2017, 01:09:24 PM
Looks like Jody was first to uturn then skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:10:17 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:10:35 PM
There are seven clues in cluebox, so pretty sure it's 7 teams remaining.

Suppose another team already came through? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:11:33 PM
Looks like Jody was first to uturn then skiers

Is there a pic of skiers U-Turning?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
Looks like Jody was first to uturn then skiers

That lines up with the info the person at the hotel game that Jody was first and Skiers were next.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:12:15 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:13:13 PM


no we are thinking NBA got eliminated there and since the lifeguards were almost last place they were eliminated in Arles... Its just speculation because they only seen 2 m/f teams and they were most likely 2nd to last

Lifeguards are seen, right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
 :conf: Jess and Cody appear to be in the lead and they U-turned Violinsist.  The Twins, Debaters, Skiers, and lifeguards are are all not far behind as they are seen together in that pic.  If the hotel only saw 2 M/F teams this doesn't make sense.  Makes me think the Skiers went past the U-turn and Jody found it first after viewing photos.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 01:14:28 PM
Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg

no idea but damn they need to leave Europe already sheesh

Unlikely with the U-Turn
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 12, 2017, 01:16:25 PM
It looks like the Rudolfinum (https://goo.gl/maps/4jjmPwyzFbE2).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:17:05 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target

That is why the move is ballsy.. They are trying to take a strong team out early and not worried about not getting blood on their hands  :groan:

But I would always uturn somebody just for the simple fact that if something crazy happened between the uturn and the pitstop and I ended up getting lost and coming in last I would never forgive myself if I had a chance to slow a team down and didn't take it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 12, 2017, 01:17:19 PM
The lifeguards are seen in the pictures of everybody at the UTurn...

So it seems that 2 (or maybe just 1) of the following have been eliminated:

-Basketball
- Eaters
-Indy racers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:22:52 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target

That is why the move is ballsy.. They are trying to take a strong team out early and not worried about not getting blood on their hands  :groan:

But I would always uturn somebody just for the simple fact that if something crazy happened between the uturn and the pitstop and I ended up getting lost and coming in last I would never forgive myself if I had a chance to slow a team down and didn't take it.

ballsy? maybe .. smartest? not really... prob would not use it if i was in first place with a team 4 hours behind
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 01:23:56 PM
jess and cody u turned the violinists take a look at the pics just up.. should be very interesting if the violinists arent far behind

Ballsy move.. I kind of respect it.

not really.. it doesnt look like the violinists were with the pack so they are prob a little behind. if they were in first already i dont know why they would. they should let the rest battle it out with no blood on their hands... we know how u turns work and theres a good chance someone stays or its keep on racing. now they will have a bigger target

being that they have seemingly been running at the front of the pack, they're already targets.. and they're taking a shot at arguably the strongest team in the race. its a risk but still smart
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
we will see.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 01:28:21 PM
they were the front of the pack majority of the race? we couldnt even locate the teams? And i wouldnt judge a team just yet and say they are the strongest by some pictures
yes from the best of what we know the won the 1st leg, in top 4 of 2nd leg, and in top group in leg 3, and not seen with bottom group in France... and violinists have been running towards front too from what we know
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:29:16 PM
we have seen photos of Eaters and NBA teams seemingly without camera crew on bus and sitting by the side watching.  Possible both those teams are out?

we saw 7 clues so we are down to 7 teams in Prague today.

 :didimiss:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:30:14 PM
where were the eaters not without a crew?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:31:56 PM
Last photo of eaters they were seen watching by the side and it was questioned why they would just be by the side-- I will go back and relocate that photo
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 01:37:37 PM
Skiers are still in
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918545688123858944
So far we have Debaters, Jody, Violinist, Twins, Skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:39:08 PM
This would explain why Eaters look to be at the side here, and NBA stayed around to take photos and spotted in Rome?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 01:42:54 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!

yes two teams can be uturned but it has to be by 2 different teams and only works if the team is currently behind you..

And no you can't uturnt he same team.. Every other team will see the violinist picture already up there and know they can uturn them again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 01:50:00 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!

yes two teams can be uturned but it has to be by 2 different teams and only works if the team you want to u turn is currently behind you..

And no you can't uturnt he same team.. Every other team will see the violinist picture already up there and know they can uturn them again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 01:54:34 PM
Since it was a Double U Turn, two teams can U Turn another team, correct? Any indication a second U Turn was used? Also, could two teams U Turn the same team at this time? Thanks!

yes two teams can be uturned but it has to be by 2 different teams and only works if the team is currently behind you..

And no you can't uturnt he same team.. Every other team will see the violinist picture already up there and know they can uturn them again.

Thank you so much. I'm learning on the fly so I'll try not to ask too many more stupid questions!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 01:54:54 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:55:30 PM
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 12, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape
How do we know it? Thanks for answer.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape
How do we know it? Thanks for answer.

Where does it show the skiers u turning??? I only see Jess n Cody using it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
Are the skiers and jody working together?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I don’t think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:05:51 PM
Are the skiers and jody working together?

I don't think there's any evidence to say that?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:07:17 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I don’t think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team

Right but when the skiers are showing up there is no one on the board. When everyone is there they are also with the skiers. Then the board was used by Jody. It would make more sense if they used it not being in first place too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 02:08:31 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I don’t think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team

Right but when the skiers are showing up there is no one on the board. When everyone is there they are also with the skiers. Then the board was used by Jody. It would make more sense if they used it not being in first place too

This makes it seem that Jody/Violinists are at the back of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
In the picture with all the teams, you can see they are all at the U-turn but the attention is on the Skiers-- I'm speculating that they reached it first and they have the possibility of U-turning a team, but we don't see if they do or if any of the other teams choose to-- I believe Jody was already there. 

I think the Skiers missed the U-turn in the first photo sighting because they are later seen at the U-turn with 3 other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:09:15 PM
The board is still blank when the skiers are there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:10:37 PM
The board is still blank when the skiers are there

I see that one but what is this picture of other other teams being with skiers at the blank board I cannot find it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
All four teams are pictured in front of the U-turn but it's the Skiers who get to U-turn a team.  Later photo shows skiers running up to the Mat.  We know they are safe this round.   :escape

No.we don't know how they placed at the Mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:11:06 PM
I'm taking a guess in my opinion and hope the skiers won this leg. They look very happy running to Phil! Fingers crossed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:13:54 PM
Where is the picture of other teams at a blank uturn board?  The only team I see at the blank board is Skiers and Jody..

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:14:13 PM
Guys, please be careful with your speculation here? LOTS of inaccurate statements!

If you don't understand how Uturns work, please ask.

Uturning someone never guarantees that you are safe. You could get lost, have a flat, screw up your task, ...a thousand things.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:15:30 PM
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it

Not necessarily true. Used to only be one, Season 29 was not limited.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:15:48 PM
Where is the picture of other teams at a blank uturn board?  The only team I see at the blank board is Skiers and Jody..

Because everyone is with the skiers in another shot.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:16:19 PM
Where is the picture of other teams at a blank uturn board?  The only team I see at the blank board is Skiers and Jody..



All the pics are up in live now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:16:28 PM
look at these two photos-- the skiers missed it the first time.  Then Jody came.  In the second photo the skiers look to be facing the camera's and talking indicating they are choosing to name or not name a team at this U-turn.  All the other teams look nervous to me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 02:17:40 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it

Not necessarily true. Used to only be one, Season 29 was not limited.

I thought you were only allowed to use the u turn again if it wa blind the first time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 12, 2017, 02:19:05 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 02:19:58 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

This makes the most sense from what we've seen.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:20:03 PM
Was Jody after the pack at the u turn? I'm confused because the board was blank when everyone was there and then they used it?
I don’t think so the hotel said Jody and the skiers were the first two teams to the clue and that they were four hours ahead of the last place team

If that was the first clue the leg usually is 4+ hours. If Jody was 4 hours ahead of everyone they could have crawled thru this leg and won, so may  not be accurate.

Also remember that ANYTHING can happen in 4 hours. WHat the order is at the start of a leg in no way reflects what the order will be at the end.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
There is a picture of Jess and Cody on the other side of the hedge from the U-Turn, and no pictures are up yet.  This makes me think that at least one leg of the detour was at this location, and maybe Jody hasn't completed it yet.

In another picture it does look like the skiers are at the U-Turn with a bunch of teams looking on, but we can't see the actual picture area.  I would surmise that this happened after Jody U-Turned the violinists.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:22:45 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe
This is plausible too but I have seen teams go right by clues and U-turns too.  The girls seem like they fly right by it??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:24:01 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

Definitely makes the most sense to me!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 12, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 12, 2017, 02:27:18 PM
Every season you could use only one u-turn, blind or not, but in S29 you can use as many as you want as shown by Tara & Joey
Don't forget once you use a u turn you can no longer use it again. So the next u turn that comes Jody can't use it

Not necessarily true. Used to only be one, Season 29 was not limited.

I thought you were only allowed to use the u turn again if it wa blind the first time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:28:30 PM
https://twitter.com/rebamay35/status/918555474827587590

This seems to detail the tasks, sorry if it was already posted, my computer is blocking some photos.

That Kafka task could be challenging.  (I had to save the photo and enlarge it there to read it.)  The article link didn't load for me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:28:35 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
They let a stranger with a camera get that close up to the board to take the pic so it's not impossible, other thing I was thinking was maybe prod was getting shots to explain the uturn like they usually do
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:29:26 PM
There is a picture of Jess and Cody on the other side of the hedge from the U-Turn, and no pictures are up yet.  This makes me think that at least one leg of the detour was at this location, and maybe Jody hasn't completed it yet.

In another picture it does look like the skiers are at the U-Turn with a bunch of teams looking on, but we can't see the actual picture area.  I would surmise that this happened after Jody U-Turned the violinists.

Is it possible to ask about time stamps on these pics?

I'm not very tech literate but there are ways to see location and time on photos-- do we have any time stamps on these photos?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:34:03 PM
Do we know who was elimated in France?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:36:35 PM
Do we know who was elimated in France?

nope all we know is the teams we have not seen in this leg are NBA, Eaters, Race Car Drivers..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: smiley on October 12, 2017, 02:38:41 PM
https://twitter.com/rebamay35/status/918555474827587590

This seems to detail the tasks, sorry if it was already posted, my computer is blocking some photos.

That Kafka task could be challenging.  (I had to save the photo and enlarge it there to read it.)  The article link didn't load for me.

That was a previous season. 🙄
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:39:34 PM
Do we know who was elimated in France?

nope all we know is the teams we have not seen in this leg are NBA, Eaters, Race Car Drivers..

Well, there is this.  NBA in Rome?
https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918487779847426050
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
https://twitter.com/rebamay35/status/918555474827587590

This seems to detail the tasks, sorry if it was already posted, my computer is blocking some photos.

That Kafka task could be challenging.  (I had to save the photo and enlarge it there to read it.)  The article link didn't load for me.

That was a previous season. 🙄

Yikes.  Sorry, and thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
Quote from: Seastars
Well, there is this.  NBA in Rome?
https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918487779847426050
Could be a red herring placed by production.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 12, 2017, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: Seastars
Well, there is this.  NBA in Rome?
https://twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/918487779847426050
Could be a red herring placed by production.

You mean they may have been decoy racers, since they are so widely recognized?  That was my thought too.  If you mean a completely fake tweet/photo by production and NBA is really in Prague?  Wow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 02:44:52 PM
I see the skiers getting clue card with the other teams and then see them all at the U-turn.  Yet they are seen by smiles90 running alone down that path and running to Phil & mat (alone?) no photos of other teams here.  Photos of Jody and Violinist around the same street (same photographer) so we can deduce same time-frame. Yet Jody gets to U-turn and uses it to turn Violinist because they are a threat to them.
We can assume if photos are taken is a same batch by the same photographer that it's probable that the timing is close too?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:45:26 PM
So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
How do we know they are first?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 02:46:23 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Fact is, the information from the hotel that Jody were in front of the others by 4 hours doesn't make sense.
Maybe they meant that the were 4 hours in front of the last team. That MIGHT be right.

It's pretty based on photos that all of Skiers/Lifeguards/Debaters/Twins were close together, and Jody must have been behind Skiers, with violinists likely behind.

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
What do you mean?

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
What does this have to do with production? They were photos taken by a local, not production.

So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
No, we don't know that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 02:47:15 PM
Nba team was spotted in Rome at 1330 today according to Dm from guy who saw them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 02:47:56 PM
^ Must be sequester, I think.

Wonder if this is going to be a keep on racing leg

no idea but damn they need to leave Europe already sheesh

Unlikely with the U-Turn
Why? I don't get it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 02:48:16 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

Doesn't work that way. Production is always right there. Trust me, I've been there/done that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:48:41 PM
I  agree


I see the skiers getting clue card with the other teams and then see them all at the U-turn.  Yet they are seen by smiles90 running alone down that path and running to Phil & mat (alone?) no photos of other teams here.  Photos of Jody and Violinist around the same street (same photographer) so we can deduce same time-frame. Yet Jody gets to U-turn and uses it to turn Violinist because they are a threat to them.
We can assume if photos are taken is a same batch by the same photographer that it's probable that the timing is close too?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:48:51 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Fact is, the information from the hotel that Jody were in front of the others by 4 hours doesn't make sense.
Maybe they meant that the were 4 hours in front of the last team. That MIGHT be right.

It's pretty based on photos that all of Skiers/Lifeguards/Debaters/Twins were close together, and Jody must have been behind Skiers, with violinists likely behind.

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
What do you mean?

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
What does this have to do with production? They were photos taken by a local, not production.

So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
No, we don't know that.

I mean, the user said production wouldn't let people touch the uturn board, then why would they let strangers go up and take pics of it? Someone could have easily just grabbed the pics quick and put hem in the board and snapped a pic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:49:14 PM
So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
How do we know they are first?
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:49:45 PM
Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

Doesn't work that way. Production is always right there. Trust me, I've been there/done that.
Ok I believe you :) , do they usually let localists go up to it ? How did they get the pic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 02:50:23 PM
People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe

That's what I think as well. I don't think Jody swooped in that fast while the skiers were right there and hen everyone else showed up
Fact is, the information from the hotel that Jody were in front of the others by 4 hours doesn't make sense.
Maybe they meant that the were 4 hours in front of the last team. That MIGHT be right.

It's pretty based on photos that all of Skiers/Lifeguards/Debaters/Twins were close together, and Jody must have been behind Skiers, with violinists likely behind.

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up
What do you mean?

Just playing devils advocate, whoever took the pic that close to the upturn board could have been a troll after the leg was over and put those pics up

I don't think production would let that happen honestly
What does this have to do with production? They were photos taken by a local, not production.

So all we know is the skiers got first? Right
No, we don't know that.

Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 02:51:30 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:52:49 PM
Well for Jody sake I hope he voilenits got phileminated  :conf:

It must have been a race between Jody and the skiers to he pit stop and the skiers go there first
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:53:22 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
No, hotel said Jody was 4 hours ahead and arrived with the skiers. Lady at pit stop confirmed skiers were first
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:53:49 PM
How do we know?
Do we know when all picture  where taken ?

People jumped to conclusion that Jody and Skiers were in the front because of the info that there were only two teams with females left and they were ahead of the pack. Now we know it's not true, Lifeguards and Debaters are still in it as well. From the available photos i don't see any proof that Jody are in front.
I think, most plausible scenario:

- Skiers show up to U-Turn first, freeze not sure what to do
- Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins catch up to them, all of them together decide not to use it
- Jody show up later, realize they are in the back of the pack and use U-Turn on Violinists to be safe
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 02:54:50 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
You probably mean hotel, not pitstop.

Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.
And like I said, this info doesn't make sense, if all of the leg took place in the same day without any Hours of Operation or something similar.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:55:10 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
It's also possible Jody and violinists were near bottom of the pact, and Jody got nervous and used the turn and then used their express pass from leg 1 to jump ahead of all the other teams to catch up to the skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 12, 2017, 02:55:48 PM
Do you think that this is the possible location for the pitstop? https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w (https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 02:56:09 PM

I agree
Well for Jody sake I hope he voilenits got phileminated  :conf:

It must have been a race between Jody and the skiers to he pit stop and the skiers go there first
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:57:51 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
No. A picture of Jody was sent to them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 02:58:41 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
No. A picture of Jody was sent to them

Ok and was the hotel spotting before or after the Uturn was completed?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 02:59:52 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..
No. A picture of Jody was sent to them

Ok and was the hotel spotting before or after the Uturn was completed?
Before
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 03:00:37 PM
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776

I love how they instantly deduce from info "Skiers were first" that "Oh, well, Jody MUST have been second".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:01:50 PM
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776

I love how they instantly deduce from info "Skiers were first" that "Oh, well, Jody MUST have been second".
Jody fans are pros they contacted the hotel company online and messaged them, the hotel said Jody was at the hotel first with the skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.

No they didn’t, I was the one who posted it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:03:14 PM
The lady who said Jody were 4 hours ahead was at the pitstop, not the u-turn station.
You probably mean hotel, not pitstop.

Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.
And like I said, this info doesn't make sense, if all of the leg took place in the same day without any Hours of Operation or something similar.

Different flights possibly
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:03:42 PM
Could the hotel have confused Jody with the debaters? They were up there with the ski girls in the picture..

She saw a pic of Jody and confirmed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:07:51 PM
post removed for rudeness.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
It's possible that jody 5th in leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:08:45 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:10:27 PM
The vacation people who were in Prague took a pic near the clue stand. There are only 7 clues, and nobody took one yet cause they are vines on top of them, so that means

Jody
Yale
Skiers
Twins
Violinists

And 2 more are in this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 03:11:42 PM
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 03:12:14 PM
Yes
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 12, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
The vacation people who were in Prague took a pic near the clue stand. There are only 7 clues, and nobody took one yet cause they are vines on top of them, so that means

Jody
Yale
Skiers
Twins
Violinists

And 2 more are in this leg.

Lifeguards were spotted as well


Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists


i think it's correct assumption
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:13:50 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 03:14:03 PM
Skiers confirmed in first place
https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918554646800715776

I love how they instantly deduce from info "Skiers were first" that "Oh, well, Jody MUST have been second".

Could a team come in before the Skiers and not been seen by the person taken the pictures? Or was it clear she heard Phil say they were the first to the mat?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 03:17:20 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?

So far, from the sound of it, they were seen getting a clue DURING the race, not checking in after
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 03:22:28 PM
would like some help forming a timeline of when skiers finished, and comparing when we saw skiers at u turn and when we saw Jody at u turn.... and see how long possible roadblock took after the u turn

Skiers finished at 230gbt according to witness.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 03:28:54 PM
well if those 4 teams were ahead of Jody going into the uturn (deciding not to use it) and Jody somehow knew the violinists were one of the only teams behind them than the voilinists are in huge trouble..

The would mean they are already trailing and would have to do both detours. ;/


Intresting to note though there is still one team not accounted for if there are 7 teams left.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists


1) we don't know that
2) yes
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
SUNSET TODAY:

6:17 PM


Thursday, October 12, 2017 (GMT+2)

Sunset in Prague, Czechia
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:39:58 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?

Getting a CLUE outside a hotel certainly does not mean that is the hotel they stay in! In fact, prob means it is not. It is just a nice scenic hotel.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
Regarding the U-Turn photo being 'faked.'  It is my  understanding that the Teams carry their own small team photos to use in the "U-Turned By..." spot.  This is also how they control only using it once.

If so, a bystander wouldn't have had access to that smaller photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:42:10 PM
Yes they said Jody and skiers got to hotel first and were 4 hrs ahead of last place team.



The hotel was a get a clue location, probably early in the leg. What happened there would have NO bearing on the end of the race. UNLESS we find out at what stage of the race that get a clue was, you cannot logically speculate on how it influenced the race.

After a leg is finished if they don't leave to the next country till the next day wouldn't they go back to the hotel to sleep?

Getting a CLUE outside a hotel certainly does not mean that is the hotel they stay in! In fact, prob means it is not. It is just a nice scenic hotel.
Oh ok I just always remembere them starting a race in front of where they stayed the night before
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
Regarding the U-Turn photo being 'faked.'  It is my  understanding that the Teams carry their own small team photos to use in the "U-Turned By..." spot.  This is also how they control only using it once.

If so, a bystander wouldn't have had access to that smaller photo.
Then why is he small plates seen at the upturn board with the bigger plates?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 03:46:46 PM
The skiers could be the team the first team the lady saw and not first at the pit stop
Is that possible
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:48:16 PM
Do you think that this is the possible location for the pitstop? https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w (https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w)

YES!! Good one!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 03:49:56 PM

Oh ok I just always remembere them starting a race in front of where they stayed the night before

They do. That would have been in Arles or near Marseille airport. NOT in Prague.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 03:51:46 PM

Oh ok I just always remembere them starting a race in front of where they stayed the night before

They do. That would have been in Arles or near Marseille airport. NOT in Prague.
It's possible the amazing race made a deal with that hotel to put a clue there if they let the teams stay there for the night after the leg? Maybe idk just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 03:54:31 PM
^^^ It's my opinion that if that hotel was used by production, they wouldn't have allowed the employees to talk about the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 03:59:05 PM
Here is my perception of the photos we found so far today.  :word:

Basket Social Club post photo of Shawn Marion near Rome, Italy? (very strange are they eliminated?)

Twins sighted at The Hotel URaka.  Start of Days Run?  Not the last or first to start the day? As we see box has other clues in it. (no credit given or time of posting by Georgia Peach)

CCGrounds photographs—9:08 am--7 clues, U-turn, Phil yawning on sidewalk, and the Skiers* running past the U-turn, prolly heading to the clues? No clue seen in their hands. He also photographs his wife with the clues, spots Jess & Cody and the Violinists. 

Photos posted by Georgia Peach giving credit to SS* (Time or Where were these photos found? On what site? How do we look up SS*?) Photo of U-Turn with info on  Jody Turning Violinists, then photo of, looks like, all four teams finding clue at castle at same time—twins, debaters, skiers, and lifeguards ( this is weird since we saw skiers in earlier and later photos alone?  Did they get lost for a moment at the castle and then recover? Why didn’t we see the other teams in CCGounds photos? ) We also see photo of all three teams at the clue with Skiers looking to be talking.  Next we see the Debaters off to side perhaps reading the U-turn card? Its taken by the U-turn area and the next photo we see them going alone in a different direction?  She also had picture of Cody & Jess by the U-turn statue before they decided to put up Violinist and they have clue card in hand.  In this photo you can see picture of the U-turn and it looks like same set up at CCGrounds photo (untouched).  This makes me believe they were the first ones to the U-turn.
SS* also has pictures of “Jody” in street heading away or toward castle is unknown.

Mo_smiles90 posted pictures three hours ago of the pit stop and they see only the skiers.  They confirm it’s the first team to pitstop. 

**I assume from this that possible debate team U-turned by the other 3 teams to give them a lead but I also think Jody was the first team to the U-turn and the violinist were right behind them.  By giving the other 4 teams a break this would give Jody favor amongst the other teams.  Skiers were first team to castle but got behind.  After the U-turn they recovered and came in first but we do not see any of the other teams in sight at this time? IDK
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
Is it safe to say the ONLY things absolutely confirmed are:

1. Skiers finished 1st.

2. Jody used U-turn on Violinists


1) we don't know that
2) yes

Yes we do. They finished first. It was a pit stop, not continue on. Confirmed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 04:04:28 PM
well if those 4 teams were ahead of Jody going into the uturn (deciding not to use it) and Jody somehow knew the violinists were one of the only teams behind them than the voilinists are in huge trouble..

The would mean they are already trailing and would have to do both detours. ;/


Intresting to note though there is still one team not accounted for if there are 7 teams left.

**look at all photos taken of the U-turn--if the 4 teams got there before Jody then why is the U-turn area untouched when we see photo of Jody by the U-turn before they chose to put Violinist up?  Photos indicate to me Jody first to U-turn. Also 4 teams pick up castle clue at same time but only 3 seen by U-turn.  We see the debaters reading a clue by the U-turn location.  Possible the other 3 turned on the debaters giving them an edge?   A photo can say so much.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 04:08:37 PM
I'd think if the Violinists were right behind Jody, they would've put another team up there already

They can still target another team for a U-turn, when they arrive there and discover they've been U-turned

Wouldn't make sense for a U-turned team to NOT use it if it were available, you know, to help themselves out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 04:12:02 PM
If it was 2-part leg, they'd check in and Phil would quickly pull the next clue from his back pocket, no stopping for interviews.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 04:16:18 PM
We don't know for sure
Anything is possible

I'd think if the Violinists were right behind Jody, they would've put another team up there already

They can still target another team for a U-turn, when they arrive there and discover they've been U-turned

Wouldn't make sense for a U-turned team to NOT use it if it were available, you know, to help themselves out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 04:18:42 PM
Do you think that this is the possible location for the pitstop? https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w (https://goo.gl/maps/GXBjj6eY42w)

If this is the location of the PitStop (and it looks a lot like it) there is a large dirt area behind that little wall where Phil and the Greeter are standing - plenty of room for the Mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 04:19:36 PM
I ask “@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?” Reply was, “No just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.”

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
Because the first four teams maybe didn't uturn anyone. So they left it blank?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:21:37 PM
I ask “@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?” Reply was, “No just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.”

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

No. It’s been since confirmed they got first and received a prize by someone there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 04:21:59 PM
I mean, Season 6 spent more than half the race in Europe (7* out of 13* legs)
(Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Hungary x2*, France)
 *Introduction of Double-Length/Keep Racing Legs, I count the Double Leg in Hungary as two

Several other season had 5 or more legs:
Season 3: U.K., Portugal, Germany/Austria, Switzerland x2
Season 4: Italy x2, Austria, France, Netherlands
Season 9: Russia*, Germany, Italy x2, Greece (*Russia first half of double leg, I count as two)
Season 12: Ireland, Netherlands, Lithuania, Croatia, Italy
Season 15: Netherlands, Sweden, Estonia, Czech Republic x2
Season 17: U.K., Sweden, Norway, Russia x2
Season 21: Russia x2, Netherlands, France, Spain
Season 24: Italy x2, Switzerland, Spain, U.K.
Season 25: U.K. x2, Denmark/Sweden, Italy, Malta

This is unprecedented guys, I wouldn't be too worried or upset

We actually haven't gone above 4 in a while, so I'm not surprised by it, honestly

I'm just glad we got more Iceland, Belgium, Czechia, and a more of a beautiful region of France- even if the country as a whole is a bit overused
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
I ask “@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?” Reply was, “No just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.”

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

No. It’s been since confirmed they got first and received a prize by someone there

I have not seen that do you mind telling where you seen it?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 12, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
Anyone know the time the skiers were at the u turn?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:36:01 PM
I ask “@TeamJessica15  Did she stated that she heard Phil say they came in 1st place? Or could team/s came in before she was at the pit stop?” Reply was, “No just said that 2 girls were first and that she left after the first team came in.”

So it is possible team/s come in before the she was at the pit stop and just assumed the skiers were in first place.

No. It’s been since confirmed they got first and received a prize by someone there

I have not seen that do you mind telling where you seen it?

Jody fan hasn’t been dming with someone who posted pics and was there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 04:36:12 PM
Ok, now I just saw another tweet from TeamJessica15, posting a screenshot of a chat, which says the skiers won a trip.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 04:41:39 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 04:42:05 PM
Jess and Cody please step it up! Ik you can beat the teams left  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 04:44:04 PM
Also Its pretty obvious that the violenists would be eliminated if all the other teams were ahead of them and jody did uturn them! right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 04:46:05 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.

Granted, the photos anyway on this leg were incredible. A few teams pictured - yeah, including Jody! - after some time of no sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chi_smiley_72 on October 12, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Does anybody know if JODY still has the EXPRESS PASS to utilize in the next leg?  If I remember correctly I read that JODY won the first leg and received the EXPRESS PASS.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 04:49:31 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.

https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918589189708533760
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 04:53:29 PM
Also Its pretty obvious that the violenists would be eliminated if all the other teams were ahead of them and jody did uturn them! right?

We don't know that the Violinists were behind Jody do we?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 04:54:19 PM
Also Its pretty obvious that the violenists would be eliminated if all the other teams were ahead of them and jody did uturn them! right?

Sure, we can speculate that, as long as we're aware there could be many circumstances which could throw that out the window. Just a couple of examples that come to mind quickly:
A team involved in that assumption could have a penalty, (known or unknown to them)
A mistake was made at U-Turn board.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Does anybody know if JODY still has the EXPRESS PASS to utilize in the next leg?  If I remember correctly I read that JODY won the first leg and received the EXPRESS PASS.

I've never seen this or proof of this.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 04:55:03 PM
Does anybody know if JODY still has the EXPRESS PASS to utilize in the next leg?  If I remember correctly I read that JODY won the first leg and received the EXPRESS PASS.

So far, that is unconfirmed

Some on here are claiming that hardcore, but there isn’t any evidence to support it, so it isn’t official

In short, we don’t have the evidence to know for sure if they even had the express pass in the first place
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 04:57:57 PM
I've never seen so many statements with no evidence or proof being provided that are immediately accepted as proven fact. If questioned, it seems that some unnamed person said something to somebody somewhere at some point. Where did they do that? Where can I see it? Inquiring minds want to know. My head is spinning at this point. :iok

I'm not saying these statements are wrong. I'm just not willing to accept them on faith without some evidence backing them up.

https://twitter.com/teamjessica15/status/918589189708533760

I get this message from that link:

This account's Tweets are protected.

I think was there earlier and just saw statements given with no proof.  I sent a follow request. Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
What haven't been seen today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 05:00:37 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 12, 2017, 05:02:32 PM


Thanks for posting the screenshot I’m on mobile
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 05:11:51 PM

IMAGE REMOVED.  ALL INFO FROM OTHER SITES REQUIRE ASKING TO SHARE AND FULL CREDIT TO THE SOURCE.
Apologies to TeamJody #BB19‏ @TeamJessica15



OK, I'll buy that the skiers were first, but I don't see any proof that Jody "must have been in second".

And that's just one instance. There have been several other claims that I haven't seen any evidence for.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 12, 2017, 05:14:23 PM
off topic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 12, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
edited
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 05:22:57 PM
^^^^ That twitter account (which is now private) has posted a lot of sightings, etc, but usually didn't credit the source.  This makes follow-up very difficult.

Why wouldn’t you need to follow up? That’s likely why they keep things private so people aren’t harassing Gothenburg or their sources.

This is what the new to TAR, Jody fans don't understand. First of all, I'm a huge Jess/Cody fan from BB. But I've watched TAR since season 2. This site doesn't hoard spoilers or try to get credit or keep them to themeselves to be the first or only with the information.

This site is all about getting as much information as possible, making sure it's correct, laying out the route, teams, order, destinations as correctly as possible AND giving credit to anyone who is a source. That's not what I see happening with jody fans on twitter. Also posting DM's is pretty sketchy too, unless they've been given permission from the person.

No one is trying to deny any information, the people here just don't believe it as fact until there's proof. They've lived this for many many years. They've been through all the different things that can happen and are just trying to have fun while piecing together the race for ALL racers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 05:24:10 PM
Off topic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 12, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
It's truly sad how much the the TAR community is ****ting on Jody fans. They're working hard as sleuths and giving much needed attention back to the show. Why the disrespect???

Read my post above. No one is doing that. People just want facts to piece together the race. The only disrespect is not giving credit to the sources of information throughout the race.

No one cares who is fans of who. We want GOOD information that is proven. That's all.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 05:34:23 PM
^^^^ That twitter account (which is now private) has posted a lot of sightings, etc, but usually didn't credit the source.  This makes follow-up very difficult.

Why would you need to follow up? That’s likely why they keep things private so people aren’t harassing Gothenburg or their sources.

This is kind of a perfect example. One possible follow-up would be to find out what order the pictures were taken in. A lot of the questions directed at this person's twitter could have been handled discretely by contacting the original poster.  Most of what we have now is hearsay, despite having lots of photo evidence. All the photos in the world can't give us information on the order of the race unless we know when and where they were taken.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 05:35:36 PM
^^^^ That twitter account (which is now private) has posted a lot of sightings, etc, but usually didn't credit the source.  This makes follow-up very difficult.

Why would you need to follow up? That’s likely why they keep things private so people aren’t harassing Gothenburg or their sources.

We follow up because that is what we do. Regardless of what others do, we do things clearly a little differently. We rarely rely on one source, we check multiple sources.

If she got the info from a source, that's great! Great idea to screencap it too. If that info was shared readily we could understand things much better.

But this whole block/don't share thing is crazy.

Every other BB season RFF has worked TOGETHER with BB forums, and that made for some delightful and very effective spoiling seasons.

When people feel free to use our photos without credit, remove logos to claim credit for themselves, and then hide that, something is wrong.

This is not a competition between boards. I could care less who gets what when.

This is a thoughtful, serious evaluation of an enormous amount of data to reach some conclusions. I do care about accuracy. There will be mistakes, and misunderstanding of what we see...that is inevitable. But we try hard to read the data correctly, and appreciate all of YOU helping to bring us info.

But please, be SURE before you make a firm statement that you 1) understand how things work, 2) have correct info that can be documented, and 3) are careful how you word things. If you only hope/wish/ something is true, please say that. Do not state it as fact. Lot's of things can be interpreted more than one way.

Okay...back to spoiling!! Go find some more goodies!! :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 05:42:58 PM
I'd think if the Violinists were right behind Jody, they would've put another team up there already

They can still target another team for a U-turn, when they arrive there and discover they've been U-turned

Wouldn't make sense for a U-turned team to NOT use it if it were available, you know, to help themselves out

Maybe they did?  We have seen no pictures of the violinists at the Uturn, but if they were the last team to get there it doesn't matter they can't u turn anybody.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 05:56:12 PM
I credit each and every photographer. I mark their pics with THEIR names. As do our team.

I have credited BB sources several times today.

I expect you all to do that as well. If that screencap was used without permission or credit, please edit your posts and delete it if you do not have permission to use it.

You all have NO idea how we function and how many hours of behind the scene work goes into being sure we have our facts straight.

We are MOVING ON NOW.

Back to spoiling.

Further discussion should go back to SPOILING and the TAR legs.

If you want to be here and help us with that, fine, We LOVE having you.

If you prefer another forum, by all means go there instead.

BUT THIS DISCUSSION IS CLOSED.

BACK TO DISCUSSION OF SPOILERS AND THAT IS IT!



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 12, 2017, 05:58:32 PM
Quick recap of today's info up to this point to help get us all back on track:

7 clue packs were seen so we know there are at least 7 teams in this leg.

Teams seen today (in no particular order): Skiers, Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins, Jody, Violinists

Not seen YET today but not confirmed to be eliminated: Indy Racers, Eaters

Not seen in today and believed to have been eliminated: Ring Girls, Yoga Moms, Basketballers

We also have confirmation that Jody used a U-Turn on Violinists, and Skiers were seen at the Pit Stop.

Also, Skiers POSSIBLY (but not confirmed) finished 1st and POSSIBLY won a trip (POSSIBLY to Australia) as a prize.

Hope this helps a little!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 06:42:09 PM
Quick recap of today's info up to this point to help get us all back on track:

7 clue packs were seen so we know there are at least 7 teams in this leg.

Teams seen today (in no particular order): Skiers, Debaters, Lifeguards, Twins, Jody, Violinists

Not seen YET today but not confirmed to be eliminated: Indy Racers, Eaters

Not seen in today and believed to have been eliminated: Ring Girls, Yoga Moms, Basketballers

We also have confirmation that Jody used a U-Turn on Violinists, and Skiers were seen at the Pit Stop.

Also, Skiers POSSIBLY (but not confirmed) finished 1st and POSSIBLY won a trip (POSSIBLY to Australia) as a prize.

Hope this helps a little!

That's a good synopsis. I'll add the obvious point that since there were seven teams and only 6 were seen, either Indy or the Eaters were still in the race but not both.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 06:59:48 PM
Basically to summarize the U-Turn for you first time BB fans :) This is the biggest thing in the game one team can do to impede another. The team who is targeted by the U-Turn (only if they're behind the team that U-Turned, otherwise it doesn't work) is forced to turn back and do both tasks of the Detour.

If Jody hadn't gotten there first, I'd guess the odds are high they would have been U-Turned. It's often used to slow down a team who others feel is a threat. And sometimes by a team who's fallen behind, on a team even farther behind to create a buffer, which almost guarantees elimination for the latter.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 12, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
I do think it is weird that 4 teams that were so close together would all not use the U turn before Jody got there.

With everybody so close wouldn't you want to make sure you don't get last espically if they don't know for sure if there was another team ahead of them?

You would think the 4 teams would make a pact to use it on the teams that weren't with them at the time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 12, 2017, 07:02:19 PM
In one of the pics of Jess and Cody talking to people on street (pic#8 on the numbered pics) it looks like a clock on a street pole.  Were any times mentioned in any of the posts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:02:41 PM
I don't believe Jody did get there first? I thought it was The Skiers?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:07:32 PM
OKAY: ONE MORE POST.

PRIVATE information from another site should NOT be used without

1) PERMISSION and
2) credit.

Just as RFF likes credit for what we post, we expect others to GIVE credit for work well done.

Today a post was lifted from another site without permission. I am deleting all of those now and have apologized to the owner.

If you go multiple places you are responsible for the above. If you have any questions you can always MESSAGE me here or on Twitter  to see if it can be used.

Thanks guys! Back to TAR!



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:08:45 PM
In one of the pics of Jess and Cody talking to people on street (pic#8 on the numbered pics) it looks like a clock on a street pole.  Were any times mentioned in any of the posts?


:welcome: I remember seeing a clock time of about noon on one of the pics.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 07:14:15 PM
I do think it is weird that 4 teams that were so close together would all not use the U turn before Jody got there.

With everybody so close wouldn't you want to make sure you don't get last espically if they don't know for sure if there was another team ahead of them?

You would think the 4 teams would make a pact to use it on the teams that weren't with them at the time.

Sometimes you have to weigh the risks: use a U-Turn on a team vs it backfiring and they target you next time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:17:25 PM
Which picture, I was looking for that.  We know that four teams got their clue at the castle at the same time. And all four were at the U-turn at the same time too.  If you look at the photo with the Skiers at U-turn facing the cameras and seemingly talking about their U-turn decision. There are two ladies in the background that we later see in the photo of the Debaters near the U-turn location but they are now headed up the stairs into the building making it known that this photo followed the other in time.  Here is where I speculate that it is possible that the 3 teams U-turned the Debaters because they seem to go off in a different direction without all the others. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 07:20:04 PM
In one of the pics of Jess and Cody talking to people on street (pic#8 on the numbered pics) it looks like a clock on a street pole.  Were any times mentioned in any of the posts?
There’s a picture of Jody talking to a local with a clock in the background Time was 12:02 pm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: PikaBelleChu on October 12, 2017, 07:21:47 PM
Assuming that Violinists were U-Turned, does that mean the Indy or Eaters who weren't in sightings gets ahead of them? If so, the Indy or Eaters might have a chance to get 2nd to Last while Violinists are in the back, at risk of being in elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 07:25:23 PM
I don't believe Jody did get there first? I thought it was The Skiers?

Or "before teams who would want to target them", I should have used better wording :)

Heck, there could have been a Fast Forward on this leg, and that's how the skiers got ahead of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:30:28 PM
Does anyone know how the U-turn works? After a team is there, do they remove their photo so the teams behind know they can not be U-turned?
If their photos are removed, we can know for sure that Jess and Cody were at the U-turn first because the Yale Debaters photo is showing in all the U-turn pictures--untouched, and they were there directly after the Skiers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Fast Forwards usually happen early in the leg, for the team to avoid doing detour/roadblock and head straight to the pit stop

Don’t think the ladies would be at the U-turn board if they got a Fast Forward
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 12, 2017, 07:33:45 PM
U-turn photos stay

We’ve had plenty occasions of a team accidentally u-turning a team ahead of them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 07:34:48 PM
POST EDITED:


IMAGE REMOVED.  ALL INFO FROM OTHER SITES REQUIRE ASKING TO SHARE AND FULL CREDIT TO THE SOURCE.
Apologies to TeamJody #BB19‏ @TeamJessica15


Thanks for posting the screenshot I’m on mobile

He deleted or lock this account after he tweeted that to me. I can no longer see it.

OK, I'll buy that the skiers were first, but I don't see any proof that Jody "must have been in second".

And that's just one instance. There have been several other claims that I haven't seen any evidence for.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:38:13 PM
I don't believe Jody did get there first? I thought it was The Skiers?

Examine the photos, I think Jody got to the U-turn before the Skiers. The photos at the bottom of the U-turn statue are all untouched and have the Debaters on top-- the debaters followed the Skiers, the twins, the lifeguards at the U-turn according to photos.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 12, 2017, 07:39:06 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Prague/Prague%20SS8x.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Prague/Prague%20SS8x.jpg)

Here is the clock photo.  This building looks to be on the side of the plaza opposite the Dvorak statue. Slowhatch posted a link to the area on google.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:43:08 PM
U-turn photos stay

We’ve had plenty occasions of a team accidentally u-turning a team ahead of them

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Thank you for this information.  So do the photos usually remain in order too? IDK I look at the photos and the scene of the statue with photos look untouched until we see the U-turn on the Violinists.  Being the first photographer saw only Skiers coming into the castle grounds, but the violinist and Jody on the street, it's plausible they were in close proximity of each other.

later we see the skiers, debaters, lifeguards, and twins all getting there clues at the same time and showing up to the U-turn together.
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Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
Dvorak? Hmm, wonder if they could have done something with that.

There's two famous Dvoraks, the composer, and the guy who patented the keyboard layout. If there's violinists in the race, I could see the former being the theme of a task.
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Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 07:48:00 PM
Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?
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Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 12, 2017, 07:55:27 PM
Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?
Picture of Jody clock reads 12:02, fb posting of other teams was posted 12:09, Skiers at pit stop 2:30 pm gmt
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 07:56:17 PM
All of those photos were taken and posted by the same person.

How did he post a picture of Jody at 12:02 when the pictures were there at 9 AM???
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Post by: Plaidmoon on October 12, 2017, 08:12:11 PM
Dvorak? Hmm, wonder if they could have done something with that.

There's two famous Dvoraks, the composer, and the guy who patented the keyboard layout. If there's violinists in the race, I could see the former being the theme of a task.

The composer Dvorak was a Czech, so that would be the obvious connection. The Violinists would have a big advantage. I'm not sure how you would design a task around keyboards.
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Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
Yeah, we've seen in the past how a lot of times, a team gets that one task that's exactly in their wheelhouse, there could certainly be one here for them. He was indeed a violinist and composer for string orchestra.
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Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 08:20:46 PM
All of those photos were taken and posted by the same person.

How did he post a picture of Jody at 12:02 when the pictures were there at 9 AM???

Not same photographer.  Picture of Jody @ 12:02 taken by SS*  The photos posted this morning were at or near the castle posted at 9am byhttps://twitter.com/WhitmoorCCSuper
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 08:22:33 PM
That's the same person. SS is his Facebook name.

He posted them all at the same time on Facebook.
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Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 08:26:02 PM
Would it have to do with his FB settings?
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Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 08:28:59 PM
What are different times?
Do they mean anything?

Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?
Picture of Jody clock reads 12:02, fb posting of other teams was posted 12:09, Skiers at pit stop 2:30 pm gmt
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 08:31:07 PM
Time on the clock is Noon.  The morning photographer posted his photos at 9 am this morning. And didn't we learn the Skiers got to the mat at 2:30 pm?


You have to take into account time zones. Where was the photographer posting from? Could his camera be set not to local time? All that matters. 9AM whose time? Your or his? May read differently.
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 08:35:10 PM
Ok. I understand it.

Those photos were posted 2:36 PM in Prague. That's how they caught Jody at 12:02.

I had to adjust for my timezone.
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Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2017, 09:24:56 PM
Guessing they're probably moving on from Europe next. 4 countries there now.
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Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
Georgia Peach -- do you know what time the photo of the Twins was taken at the Romantik Hotel U Raka? You posted it around 11am while the other pictures were posted at 9am?  I think all those photos around the Rudolfinum Concert Hall were taken near the 12:02 noontime as seen in the photo.
If you plot on a map from  the Hotel is a six minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall, and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop --- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... 
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Post by: jboy224 on October 12, 2017, 09:37:56 PM
I am praying the next place they go to is germany castles or tokyo japan, or africa.  :bunny

PS: this has to be one of the best first dates EVER (for jody) lol  :conf:
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Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 09:43:09 PM
The new photo and information put the 4 teams in the front (Skiers, Lifeguards, Twins, Debaters) and 3 teams (Jody, Violinist, and mystery team) in the rear.  So Jody did slow the Violinist down due to being behind the pack.... :groan:
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2017, 09:46:29 PM
Georgia Peach -- do you know what time the photo of the Twins was taken at the Romantik Hotel U Raka? You posted it around 11am while the other pictures were posted at 9am?  I think all those photos around the Rudolfinum Concert Hall were taken near the 12:02 noontime as seen in the photo.
If you plot on a map from  the Hotel is a six minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall, and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop --- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... 
No sorry. Without the photographer checking their times there is no way to tell.
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 12, 2017, 09:54:33 PM
I'm confused. Is the time stamp on Facebook based on my timezone or the poster's timezone?

The hotel picture was posted on Facebook at 7:38 AM. But is that my time or do I have to adjust for Prague?
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Post by: WindsorSue on October 12, 2017, 10:14:52 PM
I'm confused. Is the time stamp on Facebook based on my timezone or the poster's timezone?

The hotel picture was posted on Facebook at 7:38 AM. But is that my time or do I have to adjust for Prague?

Yours. See where it says "14 hours ago"? BUT that just means WHEN he posted, it's not a time stamp on the pic.
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Post by: Malvear867 on October 12, 2017, 10:31:17 PM
How does this picture approve anything?

The new photo and information put the 4 teams in the front (Skiers, Lifeguards, Twins, Debaters) and 3 teams (Jody, Violinist, and mystery team) in the rear.  So Jody did slow the Violinist down due to being behind the pack.... :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 12, 2017, 10:48:06 PM
Previous photo shows the Skiers, Lifeguards, Debaters, & Twins together at that Clue table &
at the U-turn. I had doubt all day but this last photo & FB post gives answers.
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Post by: ghmorello on October 12, 2017, 11:07:53 PM
So as it relates to the mystery team, I'm gonna guess it's the Indy 500 racers or the eaters.
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Post by: geographyknower on October 12, 2017, 11:20:30 PM
Yes, no sightings of either teams in Prague have surfaced.
So as it relates to the mystery team, I'm gonna guess it's the Indy 500 racers or the eaters.
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Post by: Marionete on October 12, 2017, 11:24:50 PM
Previous photo shows the Skiers, Lifeguards, Debaters, & Twins together at that Clue table &
at the U-turn. I had doubt all day but this last photo & FB post gives answers.
i would agree with this.
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Post by: Winteriscoming on October 13, 2017, 01:28:13 AM
so if there were only 3 clues left on the cluetable close to the uturn does that mean teams would know their current place when they were there by how many clues were left?

If so that is probably why Jody used it.. If they realized they were only ahead of 1 or 2 teams and knew the violinist were one of the ones behind them, they needed to do it to buy more time and make sure they didn't get last.
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Post by: gamerfan09 on October 13, 2017, 01:44:39 AM
so if there were only 3 clues left on the cluetable close to the uturn does that mean teams would know their current place when they were there by how many clues were left?

If so that is probably why Jody used it.. If they realized they were only ahead of 1 or 2 teams and knew the violinist were one of the ones behind them, they needed to do it to buy more time and make sure they didn't get last.

Teams make the U-Turn decision being taking and reading their clue :tup:

Considering the clue-table though... maybe it's behind the board?
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Post by: gamerfan09 on October 13, 2017, 01:51:53 AM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
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Post by: Cool123 on October 13, 2017, 01:52:42 AM
Spotted in prague
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaLT97ulgsx/
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Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 02:24:20 AM
How do we know it isn’t arranged as Shawn and Cedric?

Conor and Alex could also be in trouble, if they arrange it Alex and Conor

But that is if they truly do it alphabetically all the time
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Post by: Joberio on October 13, 2017, 02:29:56 AM
They don't arrange the team members' names alphabetically.  They arrange them based on what they think would roll off the tongue better, or sound better (at least most of the time).  For example, "Cody & Jessica" sounds phonetically better than "Jessica & Cody."  Also rolls off the tongue a lot more easily.  With Trevor & Chris, I think their names also sound better that way, and maybe the producers thought and decided that, too.
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Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 02:37:00 AM
I think how the teams are arranged at the starting line reflects their team names more

From Phil’s perspective, it would fit with the three names we see on the pictures

Henry and Evan
Cody and Jessica
Trevor and Chris

Contrstents arranged the same in photo and at Starting Line

If based off that, and if the alphabetical photos are correct (team who’s first member’s name comes first alphabetically is at the top) I’d be more nervous for Indy (standing as Alex and Conor at the Starting Line)
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Post by: BourkieBoy on October 13, 2017, 07:26:04 AM
Well, you learn something new everyday!

I didn't know 'Czech Republic' is now called 'Czsecia'
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Post by: TARUSAFan on October 13, 2017, 07:34:30 AM
Well, you learn something new everyday!

I didn't know 'Czech Republic' is now called 'Czsecia'

I had to look it up to verify it. They did change the name officially to Czechia although Czech Republic has registered in the minds of the people.
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Post by: naejae91 on October 13, 2017, 07:35:12 AM

How do we know it isn’t arranged as Shawn and Cedric?

Conor and Alex could also be in trouble, if they arrange it Alex and Conor

But that is if they truly do it alphabetically all the time
They don't arrange the team members' names alphabetically.  They arrange them based on what they think would roll off the tongue better, or sound better (at least most of the time).  For example, "Cody & Jessica" sounds phonetically better than "Jessica & Cody."  Also rolls off the tongue a lot more easily.  With Trevor & Chris, I think their names also sound better that way, and maybe the producers thought and decided that, too.


I remember I saw a list was leaked somewhere here that show how the teammate was arranged but I can't find it anymore.


Edit: Can't find the list anymore, but I remember the teammate was arranged exactly like the list below:

1-  Alex Rossi/Conor Daly (M/M) Indy 500 Winners (Blue)
2-  Lucas Bocanegra/Brittany Austin (M/F) LifeGuard Couple (Lime Green)
3-  April Gould/Sarah Williams (F/F) (Bright Blue)
4-  Shawn Marion/Cedric Ceballos(M/M) NBA Stars (??Purple??)
5-  Cody Nickson/Jessica Graf(M/F) Big Brother Couple (Khaki Green)
6-  Trevor Wadleigh/Christopher Marchant (M/M) Violinists with WellStrung (Black)
7-  Henry Zhang/Evan Lynyak(M/F) Yale National Debate Champs-Couple (??)
8- Jen Hudak/Kristi Leskinen  (F/F) National Ski Champs (Pink)
9-  Eric/Daniel Guiffreda (M/M) Twin Firefighter EMT's (??)
10- Kayla Fitzgerald and Dessie Mitcheson (F/F) "Ring Girls" (Red)
11- Joey Chestnut/Tim Janus (M/M)  National Eating Champs (Kelly Green)

Our sighted F7 teams in alphabetical order might be:

Alex & Conor (If they're the mystery team)
Cody & Jessica
Eric & Daniel
Henry & Evan
Jen & Kristi
Joey & Tim (If they're the mystery team)
Lucas & Brittany
Trevor & Chris
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 13, 2017, 07:54:43 AM
The new photo and information put the 4 teams in the front (Skiers, Lifeguards, Twins, Debaters) and 3 teams (Jody, Violinist, and mystery team) in the rear.  So Jody did slow the Violinist down due to being behind the pack.... :groan:

I wonder who the mystery team is. I think it could only be either the Indy 500 Racers or the Competitive Eaters. Shawn Marion was seen in Rome without a backpack, without Cedric Ceballos nor a camera crew, I'd assume they're eliminated already.
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 07:56:58 AM
Please search Prague airport  for sightings before noon today...STAT! Thanks!
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Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 08:58:39 AM
^ Eastern Standard Time or Central Europe Time?
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 09:06:42 AM
Departure Prague time.

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Post by: naejae91 on October 13, 2017, 09:35:01 AM
^ Eastern Standard Time or Central Europe Time?
Central Europe Time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 13, 2017, 10:59:27 AM
Interestingly enough, the person who posted the pic with all 7 clues (WhitmoorCCSuper), posted pictures of JODY and the Violinists. (Posted at the same time) Yet now we are thinking they were behind at least 4 other teams.
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Post by: Jruffo15 on October 13, 2017, 11:10:23 AM
Sorry if this is wrong place to post.  I was thinking the same thing.  If you look at the times and the picture with Jody where there is a clock it looks like they may have been minutes apart.  Something still seems off to me.  The picture with the skiers in the background near the uturn by themselves is really throwing me off, where did the other 3 teams go??
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Post by: jboy224 on October 13, 2017, 11:24:53 AM
I find it very hard to believe all those teams that wer behind jody and the violienists got in front of them. without help atleast.

maybe it is a new twist and another team won it and put them in the bottom or something.
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Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 13, 2017, 11:34:02 AM
teams go from first to last all the time during seasons. its normal
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Post by: ilovetoread on October 13, 2017, 11:35:19 AM
teams go from first to last all the time during seasons. its normal

Exactly. The two groups could have chosen different detours and one group finished quicker than the others. Or couldn't find the cluebox. Or got lost. Or bad cab. Anything can trip up teams.
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 11:36:03 AM
Interestingly enough, the person who posted the pic with all 7 clues (WhitmoorCCSuper), posted pictures of JODY and the Violinists. (Posted at the same time) Yet now we are thinking they were behind at least 4 other teams.

Can you expand on this? Not sure I am getting it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:44:39 AM
Behind just means as to who got the clues first.  I think it's obvious that all the teams where the area at the same time.  Jody and the Violinist were not that far behind.  Question is, was the mystery team late start or what? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:52:03 AM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
That guy has glasses on--that photo is of Yale Team (debaters)
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Post by: Slowhatch on October 13, 2017, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Cpt.Carnage
Got some more shots here : https://www.instagram.com/p/BaJ5rJ_AmaK/
Nice! :tup: Then Letenský profil (https://goo.gl/maps/i9J1kbfSaDK2) is the pitstop.
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Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:56:00 AM
Sorry if this is wrong place to post.  I was thinking the same thing.  If you look at the times and the picture with Jody where there is a clock it looks like they may have been minutes apart.  Something still seems off to me.  The picture with the skiers in the background near the uturn by themselves is really throwing me off, where did the other 3 teams go??

I think the Skiers were racing everyone to the clue table and blew past the U=turn at that point.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
I find it very hard to believe all those teams that wer behind jody and the violienists got in front of them. without help atleast.

maybe it is a new twist and another team won it and put them in the bottom or something.

If you plot on a map from the Hotel it's a six-minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall (the clue table and U-turn), and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop (Letenske Schody)--- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... Everything was relatively close so it was prolly a matter of minutes between the teams.
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Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 13, 2017, 12:01:16 PM
I find it very hard to believe all those teams that wer behind jody and the violienists got in front of them. without help atleast.

maybe it is a new twist and another team won it and put them in the bottom or something.

If you plot on a map from the Hotel it's a six-minute drive (1.9 miles) to the Rudolfinum Concert Hall (the clue table and U-turn), and then just .5 mile to the Metronome Sculpture & Pitstop --- you get the idea of their journey today minus any tasks or roadblocks.... Everything was relatively close so it was prolly a matter of minutes between the teams.

But you have to factor in the tasks. That could set a team apart by hours
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:02:24 PM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
That guy has glasses on--that photo is of Yale Team (debaters)

Height difference is wrong for debaters.
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:03:32 PM
Let's all be on the alert for sightings please! Today SHOULD be a travel day unless this is an extended PitStop!
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Post by: chill_sd on October 13, 2017, 12:14:32 PM
Interestingly enough, the person who posted the pic with all 7 clues (WhitmoorCCSuper), posted pictures of JODY and the Violinists. (Posted at the same time) Yet now we are thinking they were behind at least 4 other teams.

Can you expand on this? Not sure I am getting it.

WhitmoorCCGrounds (@WhitmoorCCSuper) posted two sets of photos around the same time (9:08 and 9:09) on 12 Oct. (This may have been just after noon, Prague Time, I'm going by what I see on the twitter pics)
His pictures include a picture of all seven clues still on the pedestal.  They also include a picture of Phil, somewhere nearby and a picture of the skiers behind the hedge by the U-turn (In the first pics - 9:08 tag).
The other set of pics (9:09 tag) show Cody and Jess and the Violinists on the streets interacting with passersby.  One of the Jody pics is in front of the same building we see in the clock photo.

It's just interesting that this photographer only caught 3 of the teams, and they were not bunched the way we see them in other photos.

As has been mentioned, these pics, even though they include the U-Turn, may have been before the teams encountered the Detour.  If the skiers and others completed the Detour more quickly than Jody this would explain how the group of 4 teams got a bit of a lead.
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Post by: NMC on October 13, 2017, 12:18:03 PM
I also do not know if this has been mentioned but:

Is this Jody's courtesy of photo below or is it someone else?

Cropped from the big picture:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwP1OBq.png)

Cropped from the U-Turn picture:

(https://i.imgur.com/vGtZ8K2.png)

Most of the time the first Courtesy of Photo that exists at the U-Turn is the teams arranged in Alphabetical order. If it's Jessica & Cody then it's "Cody & Jessica", and thus, we might be able to figure that "CEDRIC & Shawn" are now likely eliminated.
That guy has glasses on--that photo is of Yale Team (debaters)

Height difference is wrong for debaters.

This just leaves it to be the Lifeguards then?  ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:30:25 PM
These are from my start line pics, teams are standing.
Don't we have confirmation that JODY Uturned ?? ???
Not sure why the confusion, but maybe missing something.

Looks like JODY to me.



Lol if you are worrying about this you are NOT searching for sightings...and that's what we need more today/tonight.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 12:33:17 PM
So it’s not Henry and Evan on that courtesy of on the ground in the first/smaller crop?

Though we can’t make out the faces per se, the heights and background def look different than the one of Cody and Jessica

Also the hats look dark, as opposed to the bright yellow of the lifeguards hats

It doesn’t look like a M/M or F/F team either

I still think that other one is Henry and Evan- the heights in that photo don’t seem too dissimilar from their height at the Starting Line
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
This is the Yale Debater.  He is infront of a chalkboard. Hope enlargement helps.  I could not post my other two enlargements but he has glasses on and he is def the Guy debater.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 13, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
I’m conpletely lost sorry. What’s the significance of figuring out that picture on the floor?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 13, 2017, 12:45:13 PM
I’m conpletely lost sorry. What’s the significance of figuring out that picture on the floor?
I'm not sure there is any. We have positively identified six of the teams that made it to Prague.  Unless we get info on the 7th team, we really should take Peach's advice and look forward.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 13, 2017, 12:47:50 PM
Who knows it could be a close race.. The person who took the pictures of the 4 teams that are grouped together around the detour is also the same one who took the pictures of Jody arriving there and uturing the violinists correct?

So unless both these sources are sticking around for hours they seem to all be around the same general area and there could be only minutes seperating them.   

Defeintly not uncommon for a bunch of teams to be doing detours together.

All we know is Jody detoured the violinists so in order for them to do that they had to feel there was at least a chance that the violinists were behind them. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
Picture on the floor is immaterial....Only thing that matters is pic on the board.

Yeah...peach is pooped.

Y'all go searching please?? :please:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 13, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
I have a question Peach, if the team get a mat or pitstop, does that mean they go back to the hotel and rest? we kinda know the hotel they stayed at the night before, has anyone talked to that hotel? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 01:07:33 PM
No sweetie. That hotel was a pick up a clue only, don't believe they stayed there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 13, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
For locations of direct flights out of Prague, if we're thinking they left this morning, I saw:
Kiev
Warsaw
Belgrade
Budapest
Riga
Moscow
St. Petersburg
Istanbul
Dubai
Tel-Aviv *fingers crossed*

Unless they went West for one of the European hubs- but that seems unlikely with a few good hubs in/to the middle east, and a descent amount of places in Eastern Europe/Middle East direct

Maybe searching around in some of these cities may be fruitful?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 01:29:07 PM
I can vouch there were no teams in Tel- Aviv today.  :sab

Let's focus on trains for now.  Look for train/bus station sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 13, 2017, 06:12:19 PM
Are teams racing right now, or is it an extended Pit Stop?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 06:15:25 PM
Who knows??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 13, 2017, 08:15:09 PM
Wonder which side of the Detour the U-Turn was on, before like last season, or after where it should be. With so many of them crowded there at the same time, I'm inclined to guess before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 13, 2017, 09:20:23 PM
Turkey would really make sense to me. It's a great connector before heading deep into Asia.
But that 1 tweet doesn't really convince me, could it just be a reference to some local event? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 13, 2017, 09:22:46 PM
Turkey would really make sense to me. It's a great connector before heading deep into Asia.
But that 1 tweet doesn't really convince me, could it just be a reference to some local event? ???

Probably this could be a local race and could not be us. Maybe teams having an extended pit stop in Prague before heading to the next destination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 13, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
Turkey would be a good location for a leg!

But as Marionete said, we need more than 1 tweet to believe this is not a fake...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZouLy on October 13, 2017, 09:32:44 PM

Turkey would really make sense to me. It's a great connector before heading deep into Asia.
But that 1 tweet doesn't really convince me, could it just be a reference to some local event? ???

Turkey would be a good location for a leg!

But as Marionete said, we need more than 1 tweet to believe this is not a fake...


indeed, it's still unproven enough, as far as i zoom in the picture I can't see any race-related stuff, but well just to give a little bump and teams are on-route to the east hopefully... :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 13, 2017, 10:08:56 PM
His next tweet was a soccer game also tagged amazing race. ???


https://twitter.com/neden5353/status/917157167224049664
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 13, 2017, 10:11:10 PM
His next tweet was a soccer game also tagged amazing race. ???


https://twitter.com/neden5353/status/917157167224049664
Yeah, and that was 5 days ago.
Pretty sure this is irrelevant to us.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 14, 2017, 11:27:39 AM
This is probably not a real sighting but on the small chance that they are filming a second leg in Czechia, I thought I'd post it.

ondra‏ @iourboi  6h6 hours ago
v Praze se natáčí Amazing race... omg
3:37 AM - 14 Oct 2017


This translates to

in Prague filming Amazing race ... omg

There was one reply to this that asked in Czech, "Today?" No answer to that so far. @iourbis states that he lives in České Budějovice, which is about 70 miles south of Prague.  Nice looking city, but since he mentions Prague specifically, they are probably not in his city.


I’m the reply  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 14, 2017, 11:35:44 AM
I agree it’s prob nothing

S was like more of a reaction to hearing about the recent leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 14, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
I agree, they were probably surprised to hear about the filming the other day. Good work about contacting them in their language!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
From Prague:

October 12 at 8:49am · Prague, Czech Republic ·


Phil Keoghan from The Amazing Race raving about Imran Khan (official)
(video)

https://www.facebook.com/saleha.dadabhoy/videos/10159358329480403/

Imran Khan is Pakistani. That's another "Can't see that happening" country.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 14, 2017, 12:50:59 PM
Or did the Prague sighting see them on way to airport???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 14, 2017, 01:03:15 PM
No, they were on the plane stowing their backpacks in the overhead bins. Pics are up now. Maybe others can see more teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 14, 2017, 01:04:20 PM
Any sign of other teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 01:06:54 PM
So it appears we have the twins and the debaters on that flight. That's clearly Henry from the side of the face.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 14, 2017, 01:07:46 PM
No, they were on the plane stowing their backpacks in the overhead bins. Pics are up now. Maybe others can see more teams.

I meant the first sighting by @IOURBOI  "in Prague ..."
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 14, 2017, 01:08:31 PM
So it appears we have the twins and the debaters on that flight. That's clearly Henry from the side of the face.
Possible Lifeguards?

Backpack in overhead compartment
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: supermom on October 14, 2017, 01:20:42 PM
2 flights to Zurich departed at same time. Swiss International Air flight LX1485 and Air Canada flight AC 6784. The original poster for photos commented that they were headed to Zimbabwe but I do not see flights connecting to Zimbabwe via Zurich so not sure where she got that info to if it was given to her purposely.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 01:21:22 PM
Zurich's probably just a connection. Hopefully
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 14, 2017, 01:23:31 PM
Just doing a quick check & there will be multiple connections. And we don't know where in Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 14, 2017, 01:25:37 PM
That's the female lifeguard standing in the aisle, isn't it?


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 14, 2017, 01:27:32 PM
That's the female lifeguard standing in the aisle, isn't it?

No that's just an old woman on the same flight lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
From Prague:

October 12 at 8:49am · Prague, Czech Republic ·


Phil Keoghan from The Amazing Race raving about Imran Khan (official)
(video)

https://www.facebook.com/saleha.dadabhoy/videos/10159358329480403/

Imran Khan is Pakistani. That's another "Can't see that happening" country.

I think it is a favor...could the poster be our greeter?? Pakistan has nothing to do with 30.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 01:29:17 PM
That's the female lifeguard standing in the aisle, isn't it?




I think so. Will get confirmation when has wifi again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 01:29:57 PM
Could connect via Cape Town....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Swiss Air flight 1499 (LX1499)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 14, 2017, 01:37:47 PM
They could be connecting on the South African Airlines/Swiss Air connection via Johannesburg to Victoria Falls that would have arrived at 1230pm today:
SA/LX 7241 ZRHJNB 2240 0910‡1                           
SA 40 JNBVFA 1050 1230 

or this nearly identical combination to Harare:
LX 288 ZRHJNB 2240 0910‡1
SA 22 JNBHRE 1045 1215

I can't imagine they'd stay in Vic Falls since they were just there with the Reporters, but from there it's a half hour drive to Chobe, Botswana.           
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 14, 2017, 01:38:33 PM
Sorry, these flights would arrive at noon tomorrow, local time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 01:46:32 PM
Supposedly going to Zimbabwe. Connections to HRE look good.

In a previous season I think they drove across border? ??? what am I remembering guys?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 01:48:15 PM
Supposedly going to Zimbabwe. Connections to HRE look good.

In a previous season I think they drove across border? ??? what am I remembering guys?

Yeah, Season 27. They just went across the border from Livingstone, Zambia. Them flying into the capital, Harare, would be unexpected. Not entirely sure of the situation there, but the country has had a lot of problems with hyperinflated currency, which is now dead and worthless.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 14, 2017, 01:49:36 PM
They just use the US Dollar
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 14, 2017, 01:49:49 PM
Vic Falls has remained stable due to it's Tourist Bubble economy.  And from there they can drive into Botswana or Zambia as well.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 01:52:38 PM
They just use the US Dollar

Well that's convenient, then. Good reason to return.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 01:53:56 PM
Going to Zimbabwi. Are there also flights ZUR to Livingstone that fit?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 14, 2017, 01:54:53 PM
They just use the US Dollar

Well that's convenient, then. Good reason to return.

Honestly can’t tell you’re being sarcastic. But if you are I don’t mean it like that I mean it due to the person talking about Zimbabwe’s economic problem.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 02:01:57 PM
Where are you seeing the lifeguard? The woman in the aisle looks way older.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 02:03:04 PM
Where are you seeing the lifeguard? The woman in the aisle looks way older.

Yes, that woman in the aisle looks much older than the female lifeguard, and the luggage that she's stowing in the bin doesn't look like that of the lifeguard.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
Deplaning in Zurich, very tight connection

There's our male lifeguard
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 14, 2017, 02:16:00 PM
I guess that rules Cape Town out as Eldweiss Air flight departs in over 2 hours.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 14, 2017, 02:17:25 PM
Fingers crossed that Indy made it through...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 02:22:15 PM
I'm anxious to find out whether Violinists survived the U-Turn.  }:>
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 14, 2017, 02:24:38 PM
When asked if she spotted Jody, @dawnbeavers on twitter replied

"Yep! Front of the plane and cuddly!!"
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 02:27:56 PM
Is that the lifeguard in yellow?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 14, 2017, 02:28:12 PM
Is that Yoga in the pink on the escalator?

Is that Violinist behind Debater?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 02:29:55 PM
The woman in pink is the debater.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 02:32:47 PM
Is that Yoga in the pink on the escalator?

Is that Violinist behind Debater?

The woman in pink is the female Debater. She's usually seen with a black headband on, and the male Debater was photographed settling down in the seat next to her on the flight.
I don't think the man in the background is Violinist. Violinists have matching light grey backpacks.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 14, 2017, 02:35:10 PM
Where are you seeing the lifeguard? The woman in the aisle looks way older.

Yes, that woman in the aisle looks much older than the female lifeguard, and the luggage that she's stowing in the bin doesn't look like that of the lifeguard.

I think it may just be a bad pic of her.  Apparently someone else sees the male lifeguard so...?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 02:37:47 PM
Male lifeguard is spotted. Check out the live sighting thread.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 14, 2017, 02:38:51 PM
Are you sure that’s not the tall violinist? I know one has a Grey backpack but they don’t have matching backpacks
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 02:40:02 PM
Where are you seeing the lifeguard? The woman in the aisle looks way older.

Yes, that woman in the aisle looks much older than the female lifeguard, and the luggage that she's stowing in the bin doesn't look like that of the lifeguard.

I think it may just be a bad pic of her.  Apparently someone else sees the male lifeguard so...?

The lifeguard team is definitely on the flight, but I don't think the woman in the aisle is the female Lifeguard. Debaters, Lifeguards, and Twins were all seated together toward the back of where the woman is stowing her luggage.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 02:41:30 PM
Are you sure that’s not the tall violinist? I know one has a Grey backpack but they don’t have matching backpacks

No, I'm not sure but the backpack and haircut don't look like either of their's to me. Their grey backpacks look matching to me (in color).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 14, 2017, 02:41:56 PM
Guys I just went back one of the violinists does have a blue backpack. The taller one that matches his appearance. I think that’s them!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 14, 2017, 02:42:39 PM
That looks exactly like both his beard and hair to me. The picture made the backpack a little darker blue
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 02:45:30 PM
That looks exactly like both his beard and hair to me. The picture made the backpack a little darker blue

That guy's backpack is at least two-toned (looks blue and grey). The Violinists' backpacks are a solid color. You can see it at different angles in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1rZBwe4oA
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 02:50:00 PM
Skiers don't appear to have been pictured, but if they really did win the leg, that goes without saying they're safe. Maybe they found a better connection.

That leaves the violinists or our unknown 7th team as the one who went out in Prague.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 14, 2017, 02:52:09 PM
Skiers could have been at the front of the plane with Jody
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 03:00:00 PM
Are you sure that’s not the tall violinist? I know one has a Grey backpack but they don’t have matching backpacks

yes they do!

Let's all try to be accurate here? If you are not sure saying I think is always good!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 14, 2017, 03:02:00 PM
So, if I have this correct, the only team Dawn Beavers didn't see was Indy?  Or have we found something about them? 

Getting a little lost here, especially since some photos on this site are blocked for me by one security system or another.   :knock:

I'm trying to think of tasks in Zimbabwe, but in reality, I don't even know the political climate there right now, and I'm rushing around today.  Dang in one way though, India and the trains are almost always some of my favorite times on TAR.

Latest:
https://twitter.com/dawnbeavers/status/919292332830228481

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: docol on October 14, 2017, 03:05:04 PM
Do we know what flight they took next since it was posted that it was a “tight” connection??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 14, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
So which teams were spotted on that flight? Can someone list them out. then who are we missing?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 03:08:23 PM
So which teams were spotted on that flight? Can someone list them out. then who are we missing?

Dawn recognized Jody who were toward the front of the plane and photographed Lifeguards, Debaters, and Twins.

Dawn didn't see Skiers, Indy, Eaters, or Violinists as far as she knows.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 14, 2017, 03:08:51 PM
She said that she saw Debaters,Twins,Lifeguards. Jody aren’t pictured as she was in the back of the plane and they were up front, we know Skiers made it as they were first last leg so we are missing one team. She was sent pictures of Indy and Violinist but said she doesn’t think she saw them but also didn’t know what she was looking for. Said she only noticed Jody as she was exiting plane and because she knew who they were.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 14, 2017, 03:17:16 PM
Thanks guys! So we need to be searching Zurich's airport. Also looking for connecting flights to get them close to Zimbabwe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on October 14, 2017, 03:18:08 PM
Thanks guys! So we need to be searching Zurich's airport. Also looking for connecting flights to get them close to Zimbabwe?

Flight to Cape Town is boarding now. (WK084)

Flight to Johannesburg is also boarding now. (LX288)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
She said that she saw Debaters,Twins,Lifeguards. Jody aren’t pictured as she was in the back of the plane and they were up front, we know Skiers made it as they were first last leg so we are missing one team. She was sent pictures of Indy and Violinist but said she doesn’t think she saw them but also didn’t know what she was looking for. Said she only noticed Jody as she was exiting plane and because she knew who they were.

There is probably a missing leg so you cannot assume that!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 03:20:32 PM
Thanks guys! So we need to be searching Zurich's airport. Also looking for connecting flights to get them close to Zimbabwe?

Already posted!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 03:21:29 PM
She said that she saw Debaters,Twins,Lifeguards. Jody aren’t pictured as she was in the back of the plane and they were up front, we know Skiers made it as they were first last leg so we are missing one team. She was sent pictures of Indy and Violinist but said she doesn’t think she saw them but also didn’t know what she was looking for. Said she only noticed Jody as she was exiting plane and because she knew who they were.

She saw Jody as she boarded I believe.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 03:27:07 PM
She said that she saw Debaters,Twins,Lifeguards. Jody aren’t pictured as she was in the back of the plane and they were up front, we know Skiers made it as they were first last leg so we are missing one team. She was sent pictures of Indy and Violinist but said she doesn’t think she saw them but also didn’t know what she was looking for. Said she only noticed Jody as she was exiting plane and because she knew who they were.

There is probably a missing leg so you cannot assume that!
Why do we think there's a missing leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
Okay,pretty obvious by TimeFrame that we missed a leg near Prague. My guess is that Varsha's suggestion of Luhacovice Cz could have been right.

So let's keep searching there and  any nearby places that would bring them back to Prague to fly out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
Interesting tidbit... She offered to buy them some food and was told "not allowed to accept". I had same answer in 27 airport...news (ish) rule??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 14, 2017, 03:36:26 PM
Hum, I thought the blonde man bought Jody both water, apple and something else in an airport earlier.
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 03:39:06 PM
I think he GAVE them food, probably a difference.
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Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 14, 2017, 03:40:01 PM
She said that she saw Debaters,Twins,Lifeguards. Jody aren’t pictured as she was in the back of the plane and they were up front, we know Skiers made it as they were first last leg so we are missing one team. She was sent pictures of Indy and Violinist but said she doesn’t think she saw them but also didn’t know what she was looking for. Said she only noticed Jody as she was exiting plane and because she knew who they were.

She saw Jody as she boarded I believe.
She said this to some Jody fans
https://twitter.com/dawnbeavers/status/919292142689947648
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 03:40:54 PM
Okay,pretty obvious by TimeFrame that we missed a leg near Prague. My guess is that Varsha's suggestion of Luhacovice Cz could have been right.

So let's keep searching there and  any nearby places that would bring them back to Prague to fly out.
Do you think that leg was a non elimination? Are there usually 2 of them?

I'm new to TAR
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 14, 2017, 03:46:51 PM
The lady  on twitter confirmed only 6 teams left
https://twitter.com/dawnbeavers/status/919303095598944256
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 03:47:40 PM
She's basing that on our spoilers.
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Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 14, 2017, 03:47:47 PM
Out of Zurich flights include: Swiss International Air Lines SWR288
Zurich/Kloten (LSZH) to OR Tambo (FAOR) and connection to South African Airways SA048 to Livingstone, Zambia (like season 27?)
Also available on South African Airways SA7241 connecting with SA048 They would all land together.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 14, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
How can she confirm 6 teams when she didn’t know who else to look for? I wouldn’t say that’s a confirmation at all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 14, 2017, 03:51:31 PM
Thanks guys! So we need to be searching Zurich's airport. Also looking for connecting flights to get them close to Zimbabwe?

Flight to Cape Town is boarding now. (WK084)

Flight to Johannesburg is also boarding now. (LX288)
Out of Zurich flights include: Swiss International Air Lines SWR288
Zurich/Kloten (LSZH) to OR Tambo (FAOR) and connection to South African Airways SA048 to Livingstone, Zambia (like season 27?)
Also available on South African Airways SA7241 connecting with SA048 They would all land together.
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Post by: Marionete on October 14, 2017, 03:52:16 PM
The lady  on twitter confirmed only 6 teams left
https://twitter.com/dawnbeavers/status/919303095598944256
I wouldn't take this as fact yet.
She said she only saw 4 teams, so I don't know how that conclusion can be made yet. Unless there's more info she hasn't revealed yet.

Okay,pretty obvious by TimeFrame that we missed a leg near Prague. My guess is that Varsha's suggestion of Luhacovice Cz could have been right.

So let's keep searching there and  any nearby places that would bring them back to Prague to fly out.
Do you think that leg was a non elimination? Are there usually 2 of them?

I'm new to TAR
Usually there are 3 non-eliminations, so with the known one in Morocco, we're looking for 2 more.
It may have been during the leg we missed in Czech Republic. If there even is a leg we missed there. But it may have been an elimination, there's no way to tell.
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 14, 2017, 03:52:50 PM
How can she confirm 6 teams when she didn’t know who else to look for? I wouldn’t say that’s a confirmation at all
Someone tweeted her that 6 teams were left. She doesn't actually know that.

There were 4 teams on her flight, that's the important news.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 14, 2017, 03:55:37 PM
Thanks guys! So we need to be searching Zurich's airport. Also looking for connecting flights to get them close to Zimbabwe?

Flight to Cape Town is boarding now. (WK084)

Flight to Johannesburg is also boarding now. (LX288)

Both flights have connections with South African Airways (SA048) taking them to Livingstone, Zambia   

I googled TAR27 in WIKI and found they went through Livingstone to Zimbabwa that way.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 14, 2017, 03:58:29 PM
How can she confirm 6 teams when she didn’t know who else to look for? I wouldn’t say that’s a confirmation at all
Someone tweeted her that 6 teams were left. She doesn't actually know that.

There were 4 teams on her flight, that's the important news.

There was an earlier flight to Zurich from Prague but at 10:25 am sometimes they leave much earlier but at some point end up meeting up at the same time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 14, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
Okay,pretty obvious by TimeFrame that we missed a leg near Prague. My guess is that Varsha's suggestion of Luhacovice Cz could have been right.

So let's keep searching there and  any nearby places that would bring them back to Prague to fly out.
Do you think that leg was a non elimination? Are there usually 2 of them?

I'm new to TAR

Yes. In fact usually there are three legs where teams are not eliminated. They can be saved because is a pre-determined non-eliminated PS - a NEL - or because they arrive and find that instead of being checked they receive a new clue instructing to continue racing - a KOR -.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 14, 2017, 04:02:08 PM
tracking flight information here:
https://www.getflightinfo.com/#/details/SWR/SWR288/1508013600/1508051400

Flight on Swiss SWR288 DEPARTURE
10:59 PM CEST
Oct 14
Gate E42
Terminal Unknown
ARRIVAL
09:09 AM SAST
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 14, 2017, 04:10:03 PM
Not an expert on airline protocol, so can someone tell me if an airline will confirm so-and-so (give the specific name) is listed as a passenger on a certain flight number? Thx!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 14, 2017, 04:14:48 PM
I'm pretty sure that's private information.
Would have been utilised before for sure if it was legal. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 14, 2017, 04:17:51 PM
I'm pretty sure that's private information.
Would have been utilised before for sure if it was legal. :tup:

Thanks. That's what I figured but had to ask in case it was a legit way to get info! :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 14, 2017, 05:04:12 PM
 :conf: The following might help all Newbie's like me as far as places to search.  It was a good day today!!

Information from TAR27

Zambia → Zimbabwe)

While in Zambia, teams visited Victoria Falls, the largest sheet of falling water in the world.

to Livingstone, Zambia Zambia (Harry Mwanga Nkumbula International Airport)
Livingstone District (Mukuni Village)
Livingstone (Batoka Aerodrome) Roadblock: "Who wants to rise above the smoke that thunders?"
Mosi-oa-Tunya National Park (Victoria Falls – Knife's Edge)
Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe Zimbabwe (Shoestrings Backpackers Lodge) (Overnight rest)
Detour: Co-Op or Croquet Victoria Falls (The Big Five Co-Op or Victoria Falls Hotel)
Victoria Falls (Rose of Charity Orphanage) Double U-Turn: Tiffany & Krista attempted to U-Turn Justin & Diana and 2nd U-Turn not used Pit Stop: Leg 4
In this leg's Roadblock, one member from each team had to choose a microlight plane and fly above Victoria Falls to spot the route marker below the mist on Knife's Edge Bridge. Once landed, they reunited with their partner and traveled across Knife's Edge Bridge for their next clue.

The Detour was a choice between Co-Op or Croquet. In Co-Op, teams made their way to The Big Five Co-Op and had to stain and polish a carved wooden giraffe. When it was properly painted and dried, a woodcarver gave them their next clue. In Croquet, teams made their way to Victoria Falls Hotel and had to play croquet, scoring five points against professional players to receive their next clue.

Additional tasks
Teams were informed that their flight was to Livingstone, Zambia. They were tasked to book their tickets to O. R. Tambo International Airport in Johannesburg, South Africa and given two separate flight options to Livingstone that arrived 15 minutes apart.
Upon arrival in Livingstone, teams made their way to Mukuni Village and took part in a traditional welcome ceremony in which the village chief spat water on them as a blessing.
At the Shoestrings Backpackers Lodge in the nearby country of Zimbabwe, teams had to spend the night and pick one of three times to leave the following morning: 8:00 a.m., 8:10 a.m., or 8:20 a.m.
Leg 5 (Zimbabwe)

This leg of the race featured the first challenge of season 1 where they had to swing across Batoka Gorge.

Victoria Falls (The Lookout Café)
Victoria Falls National Park (Batoka Gorge) Roadblock: "Who wants to gorge themselves?"
Detour: Crocs or Canoes Victoria Falls (Elephants Walk Shopping and Artist Village – Crocodile Cage Diving or A Zambezi River Lodge)
Victoria Falls (Masuwe Safari Lodge – The Lion Encounter)
Victoria Falls (Masuwe Safari Lodge – Masuwe Private Game Reserve) Pit Stop: Leg 5
In this leg's Roadblock, each team had to select one member to participate in the very first task from season 1. The team member had to strap on a harness and free-fall 200 feet (61 m) into the Batoka Gorge and swing above the Zambezi River. Once they returned to the top, they got their next clue.

The Detour was a choice between Crocs or Canoes. In Crocs, teams had to travel to Crocodile Cage Diving at Elephants Walk Shopping and Artist Village. The teams changed into wetsuits and were submerged in a metal cage, using poles to feed meat to three Nile crocodiles. Once the meat was fed, they received their next clue. In Canoes, teams had to travel to A Zambezi River Lodge where they had to get an inflatable canoe and paddle together across the river. Once they arrived at the riverbank, one team member had to hoist their partner up a tree to retrieve the clue from a vulture's nest. Teams then paddled back across the river.

Additional tasks
After the Detour, teams were instructed to travel to The Lion Encounter at Masuwe Safari Lodge. Accompanied by safari instructors and two lions, they walked through the bush to find their next clue hidden in a skull. Only two teams were permitted to attempt this task at the same time.
After teams found their clue they had to walk to Masuwe Private Game Reserve, where they received a large cloth to tie around their heads. Each then had to get a basket of fruit at Masuwe Lodge to carry on their heads and continue walking carefully to the Pit Stop.
Leg 6 (Zimbabwe → France)

Roadblock: "Who wants to get their heart pumping?" Victoria Falls National Park (Victoria Falls Bridge)
Flight: Livingstone, Zambia (Harry Mwanga Nkumbula International Airport) to Paris, France France (Charles de Gaulle Airport)

The above are possible searching points these next few days.  Either ways, It's gonna be thrilling!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 14, 2017, 05:29:53 PM
Great info ^^^^^ from previous season to use for searching! Thanks! :)

But before I resume searching, is this correct?
Teams seen today on the plane were Debaters, Twins, Lifeguards & Jody.
No sightings today (YET) of Skiers, Indy Racers, Violinists or Eaters.
Believed to already have been eliminated: Ring Girls, Yoga Moms, Basketballers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 14, 2017, 05:42:08 PM
Yes you are right, that's accurate.
At least one of Eaters/Indy Racers is eliminated as well.
Unless the leg in Prague was a NEL and there was no leg in between that and Zimbabwe, there are more teams that have been eliminated.
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Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 14, 2017, 05:45:15 PM
Yes you are right, that's accurate.
At least one of Eaters/Indy Racers is eliminated as well.
Unless the leg in Prague was a NEL and there was no leg in between that and Zimbabwe, there are more teams that have been eliminated.
Fingers crossed on Indy...
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Post by: Clueless on October 14, 2017, 05:47:38 PM
Thanks for confirming, Marionete! :)
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Post by: BourkieBoy on October 14, 2017, 05:52:10 PM
Why wold you go to Zimbabwe, over South Africa? ???  :groan: :haha
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Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 06:13:09 PM
Why wold you go to Zimbabwe, over South Africa? ???  :groan: :haha

As a few have speculated, they're probably headed for Victoria Falls.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 06:26:04 PM
Not an expert on airline protocol, so can someone tell me if an airline will confirm so-and-so (give the specific name) is listed as a passenger on a certain flight number? Thx!

No way in he**.
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Post by: smiley on October 14, 2017, 06:27:15 PM
What about Bulawayo?
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 14, 2017, 06:27:44 PM
For the game spotting! Supposed to be awesome there.
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Post by: TARmap on October 14, 2017, 06:34:01 PM
Sorry, can someone clarify if teams are on the flight to Johannesburg or Cape Town? Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 14, 2017, 06:58:52 PM
Okay,pretty obvious by TimeFrame that we missed a leg near Prague. My guess is that Varsha's suggestion of Luhacovice Cz could have been right.

So let's keep searching there and  any nearby places that would bring them back to Prague to fly out.
Do you think that leg was a non elimination? Are there usually 2 of them?

I'm new to TAR

There is usually 2 or 3 of them so there is a decent chance of this leg being non elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: PikaBelleChu on October 14, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
Is that Yoga in the pink on the escalator?

Is that Violinist behind Debater?

The woman in pink is the female Debater. She's usually seen with a black headband on, and the male Debater was photographed settling down in the seat next to her on the flight.
I don't think the man in the background is Violinist. Violinists have matching light grey backpacks.

I figured that would be one of Skiers. that's Jen. the pink color is darker compared to Evan which has light pink. of course, that's Jen's headband and not Evan's, the female debater team always wear black cap wherever she goes.
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Post by: DavidJunior on October 14, 2017, 07:12:57 PM
I'm leaning towards Joburg for connection city- has way more flights into Zimbabwe tomorrow than Cape Town

Harare and Victoria Falls both have flights in the late morning and early afternoon from there, with Bulawayo having one in the late morning as well

Cape Town just has one to the Victoria Falls area, and it might be before our expected time frame for their arrival in South Africa
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 14, 2017, 08:07:28 PM
I know we dont know for sure, but Since Jody was the only ones to  use the u turn board on the violinists its most likely they were the ones eliminated last. Good for them if true because then they dont have a team still on the show mad at them.

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Post by: couchracer on October 14, 2017, 08:09:12 PM
There are many flights from Cape town to Johannesburg, many more flights from Johannesburg.
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Post by: paradoxinee on October 14, 2017, 08:10:23 PM
Is that Yoga in the pink on the escalator?

Is that Violinist behind Debater?

The woman in pink is the female Debater. She's usually seen with a black headband on, and the male Debater was photographed settling down in the seat next to her on the flight.
I don't think the man in the background is Violinist. Violinists have matching light grey backpacks.

I figured that would be one of Skiers. that's Jen. the pink color is darker compared to Evan which has light pink. of course, that's Jen's headband and not Evan's, the female debater team always wear black cap wherever she goes.

No, that's Debater, not Skiers. The headband is Debater's (you can check the previous sightings in Prague). She has darker pink because she was wearing a jacket or something. And people can have more than one set of clothes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 08:14:34 PM
I know we dont know for sure, but Since Jody was the only ones to  use the u turn board on the violinists its most likely they were the ones eliminated last. Good for them if true because then they dont have a team still on the show mad at them.

Yup, that's what tends to happen with U-Turns. There almost always is another one. If the targeted team survives, they will usually be seeking to return the favor (in this case, Jody) on the next one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 14, 2017, 08:17:51 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them
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Post by: Winteriscoming on October 14, 2017, 08:24:01 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

It's a possibility.  There is still one missing M/M team out there somewhere.  No matter what though I am happy to see some M/M teams going down..  This would be 3 in a row.

All 3 couples are still there which surprised me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 14, 2017, 08:35:56 PM
I hope Violinist are out lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 14, 2017, 08:43:38 PM
Just something to question about the U-Turn leg, does anyone think the missing team may have taken a Fast Forward?

TAR16: Fast Forward on U-Turn Leg
TAR17: Fast Forward on Regular Leg
TAR20: Fast Forward on Regular Leg
TAR21: Fast Forward with Double U-Turn Leg
TAR22: Fast Forward on Regular Leg
TAR23: Fast Forward on Regular Leg
TAR25: Fast Forward with Double U-Turn Leg
TAR27: Fast Forward on Regular Leg
TAR29: Fast Forward on Regular Leg
TAR30: ?

I'm not saying there's a pattern but I'm just throwing this out there  :funny:
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Post by: Joberio on October 14, 2017, 08:48:01 PM
I hope Violinist are out lol
Me, too.  Don't know why anyone would want an alpha-male team to stick around.  I hope the U-Turn did its job.
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Post by: Winteriscoming on October 14, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
Stay ON TOPIC please. Save the sarcasm for somewhere else.
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Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 09:06:48 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

Why do you want a team who was U-Turn'ed to be saved?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 14, 2017, 09:11:04 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

Why do you want a team who was U-Turn'ed to be saved?

Personally while I know it's part of the game, I would rather someone go out for their own undoing than a U-Turn
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 14, 2017, 09:19:45 PM
They're going to Harare, Zimbabwe

https://twitter.com/ShenShen333/status/919325632378654720
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 14, 2017, 09:20:35 PM
They're going to Harare, Zimbabwe

https://twitter.com/ShenShen333/status/919325632378654720
Nice!  Zimbabwe's not a new country, obviously, but is Harare a new location for the show?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 14, 2017, 09:20:50 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

Why do you want a team who was U-Turn'ed to be saved?

Personally while I know it's part of the game, I would rather someone go out for their own undoing than a U-Turn

well to be fair their own undoing was not making it to the uturn before the other teams (if they are gone).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 14, 2017, 09:34:25 PM
They're going to Harare, Zimbabwe

https://twitter.com/ShenShen333/status/919325632378654720

How is this a reliable source?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 14, 2017, 09:54:12 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

Why do you want a team who was U-Turn'ed to be saved?

For me, it's simply because I like them!  I like several of the other teams too though.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 14, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
They're going to Harare, Zimbabwe

https://twitter.com/ShenShen333/status/919325632378654720

How is this a reliable source?

The rest of her information has been reliable for the past 2 weeks.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 14, 2017, 10:21:51 PM
^^^ She's just doing what we're doing. She knows it's Zimbabwe and she's looked at flight info.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 14, 2017, 10:25:08 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

Why do you want a team who was U-Turn'ed to be saved?

Because I rather watch a team go out on their own doing than someone else’s
Choice
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 14, 2017, 10:29:53 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

Why do you want a team who was U-Turn'ed to be saved?

Because I rather watch a team go out on their own doing than someone else’s
Choice
It's part of the game, though.  And honestly, if they're gone, they're gone.  Cody & Jessica made the right choice by making it so.  Allow the rarely trailing alpha-male team a chance to catch up and even win after passing up the best chance to keep it from happening?  Hell no!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 10:42:31 PM
I wonder if someone was behind the violinists and they got to u turn someone as well. Hopefully that saved them

Why do you want a team who was U-Turn'ed to be saved?

Because I rather watch a team go out on their own doing than someone else’s
Choice
It's part of the game, though.  And honestly, if they're gone, they're gone.  Cody & Jessica made the right choice by making it so.  Allow the rarely trailing alpha-male team a chance to catch up and even win after passing up the best chance to keep it from happening?  Hell no!

I have no strong feelings either way about the Violinists. I'm still confused as to what wanting a team to be eliminated "by their own doing" rather than the result of a U-Turn means. So are these people who are against U-Turns being successful also against NELs?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Brannockdevice on October 14, 2017, 10:49:33 PM
Dawn Beavers‏ @dawnbeavers  5m5 minutes ago
More
Replying to @dawnbeavers @RealitySteve
They are headed to Zimbabwe!

Has Zimbabwe been confirmed?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 14, 2017, 11:01:03 PM
Well NEL’s have been a feature since the beginning, and I’d argue necessary

If we were to have no NEL’s with 11 teams we would only get 9 episodes tops, which is really short, especially for reality television

If we wanted 12-13 episodes without NEL’s, we’d have to have 14-15 teams- you already run the risk of losing teams amongst the sea of contestants when they do a 12 team race

Neither really would work that well

U-turn is just another extra device they implemented to spice things up

I personally kind of enjoy it as a whole, but it is really a bummer when a good/competitive team gets knocked out solely because they didn’t happen to complete a detour as quick as another team

And throughout the seasons there have been plenty of instances of teams being their own worst enemy, and knocking themselves out/losing in the finale- and I find it makes for better tv
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 14, 2017, 11:02:53 PM
Well NEL’s have been a feature since the beginning, and I’d argue necessary

If we were to have no NEL’s with 11 teams we would only get 9 episodes tops, which is really short, especially for reality television

If we wanted 12-13 episodes without NEL’s, we’d have to have 14-15 teams- you already run the risk of losing teams amongst the sea of contestants when they do a 12 team race

Neither really would work that well

U-turn is just another extra device they implemented to spice things up

I personally kind of enjoy it as a whole, but it is really a bummer when a good/competitive team gets knocked out solely because they didn’t happen to complete a detour as quick as another team

And throughout the seasons there have been plenty of instances of teams being their own worst enemy, and knocking themselves out/losing in the finale- and I find it makes for better tv

Great explanation and reasoning. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 14, 2017, 11:31:52 PM
http://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbabwe/water-cannons-riot-police-out-in-force-in-harare-20171012

This was the first thing that came up for me when I googled Harare.  Water Cannons from the police to clear out street vendors, 2 days ago. 

Next I found an article about how Harare was the worst (or 4th worst) city in the world, written in 2013.  That was fascinating, and according to the author, not his experience.  I'll link it in case anyone else is interested.  https://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/15/harare-is-it-really-the-worst-city-on-earth/

Several museums, etc.  This should be a great place for TAR, I'm looking forward to it.  IF the Harare destination is true, or course.  Wild life and bird sanctuaries as well. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 11:49:40 PM
South of Harare, I see there's the ruins of an ancient walled city from the iron age called Great Zimbabwe. It's a UNESCO site.

That for one looks like a great possible location for a task.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 14, 2017, 11:50:51 PM
It's a UNESCO site.
UNESCO?  What's UNESCO?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 14, 2017, 11:52:30 PM
It's a UNESCO site.
UNESCO?  What's UNESCO?

United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Basically it's a classification that all the most important historic and cultural sites around the world receive, and it ensures their preservation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 15, 2017, 12:02:16 AM
https://wikitravel.org/en/Zimbabwe

If you page down here, there are "deluxe" busses running to other locations, flights are also listed by airline and destination, and there is also a train from Bulawayo to the Victoria Falls.  https://www.seat61.com/Zimbabwe.htm 

I hope they do two legs in this area!

Weather should be good, not rainy, but warm.  Still, there are driving warnings about potholes (probably big enough to swallow a large dog or a tire) so if they do any self driving?  It may not be here.  In Harare itself, roads look great though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 15, 2017, 12:04:58 AM
https://wikitravel.org/en/Zimbabwe

If you page down here, there are "deluxe" busses running to other locations, flights are also listed by airline and destination, and there is also a train from Bulawayo to the Victoria Falls.  https://www.seat61.com/Zimbabwe.htm 

I hope they do two legs in this area!
I do, too, but that might be a slim possibility.  Isn't this leg eight by now?  I'm pretty sure they'll want to head out in Asia's direction around leg nine, get a leg or two there (or even three, if they don't want to have at least one South America leg before the final leg).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 12:14:05 AM
They could be connecting on the South African Airlines/Swiss Air connection via Johannesburg to Victoria Falls that would arrive at 1230pm 10/15
SA/LX 7241 ZRHJNB 2240 0910‡1                           
SA 40 JNBVFA 1050 1230 

or this nearly identical combination to Harare:
LX 288 ZRHJNB 2240 0910‡1
SA 22 JNBHRE 1045 1215

I can't imagine they'd stay in Vic Falls since they were just there with the Reporters, but from there it's a half hour drive to Chobe, Botswana.           

Okay . So we have ONE set of flights:
Prague>Zurich Swiss Air 1499
And either to Harare or Victoria Falls as above.

Now we need another set for the remaining teams.  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 15, 2017, 12:15:51 AM
Dawn Beavers‏ @dawnbeavers  5m5 minutes ago
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Replying to @dawnbeavers @RealitySteve
They are headed to Zimbabwe!

Has Zimbabwe been confirmed?

The woman was posting pictures of teams from inside the plane going to Zurich. She said in another tweet that one of the teams told her they were going to Zimbabwe. Until we get pictures or video from on the ground in Zimbabwe, this is about the best confirmation we're likely to get.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 15, 2017, 12:16:55 AM
https://wikitravel.org/en/Zimbabwe

If you page down here, there are "deluxe" busses running to other locations, flights are also listed by airline and destination, and there is also a train from Bulawayo to the Victoria Falls.  https://www.seat61.com/Zimbabwe.htm 

I hope they do two legs in this area!
I do, too, but that might be a slim possibility.  Isn't this leg eight by now?  I'm pretty sure they'll want to head out in Asia's direction around leg nine, get a leg or two there (or even three, if they don't want to have at least one South America leg before the final leg).

If there are 6 teams left and there has only been one NEL than this would be leg 7.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 15, 2017, 12:17:19 AM
I've seen people talk about a missing leg, but I don't see why that has to be the case. The Prague leg was on October 12, the 12th day of the race, which is not unusual for the sixth leg to be.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 12:32:27 AM
Right. The Prague leg was the 12th.

Where were they for the next 48 hours??

I think we could have missed one during that time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 15, 2017, 12:35:41 AM
Right. The Prague leg was the 12th.

Where were they for the next 48 hours??

I think we could have missed one during that time.
That's what I'm saying.  Two weeks in now?  Two-thirds of the race just has to be over by now, or about to be.  I'm really thinking that there was another Czech Republic/Czechia leg for maybe a F6 NEL as the seventh leg, and now, this Africa leg is the eighth leg and the F6 elimination leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 15, 2017, 12:38:27 AM
I think if we're finally having a big jump now that some form of an extended PS needs to be considered after Prague.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 15, 2017, 12:51:41 AM
Right. The Prague leg was the 12th.

Where were they for the next 48 hours??

I think we could have missed one during that time.

If its a jump from Prague to Zimbabwe as we expect, then it would make sense for a rest day and teams arriving on the 15th. Its common for long jumps.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 12:51:59 AM
Right. The Prague leg was the 12th.

Where were they for the next 48 hours??

I think we could have missed one during that time.
That's what I'm saying.  Two weeks in now?  Two-thirds of the race just has to be over by now, or about to be.  I'm really thinking that there was another Czech Republic/Czechia leg for maybe a F6 NEL as the seventh leg, and now, this Africa leg is the eighth leg and the F6 elimination leg.


Agree except no proof or evidence for a F6 NEL right? ???

Leg 6 Prague finished approx. 3PM?? 12th (using 3PM as example)
Released about 3AM 13th
Leg 7 3am to 3pm 13th
Pitstop 3PM to 3AM 14th
Gives them close to 12 hours to get back to Prague for Swiss Air flight dep 755PM 14th

This is way too much time for an extended PitStop...IMO. 48++ hours??
Can't rule it out...but regardless we have to consider that it remains a possibility.


Keep in mind we still need a second set of flights for remainder of teams...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 12:55:42 AM

If its a jump from Prague to Zimbabwe as we expect, then it would make sense for a rest day and teams arriving on the 15th. Its common for long jumps.

It isn't ONE rest day though...it is 48 hours. Right? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 15, 2017, 12:56:16 AM
Didn't they start traveling on the 14th?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 15, 2017, 12:59:35 AM
Right. The Prague leg was the 12th.

Where were they for the next 48 hours??

I think we could have missed one during that time.

considering that water cannon police stuff on the street vendors in Harare was happening on the 12th?  I suck at judging times nearly half way around the world, but it's possible they took an extended rest in Prague to 1) See if things calmed down there, or 2) have production talk about / arrange alternative destinations if need be.  ???

Just a thought.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 15, 2017, 12:59:59 AM
fwiw this season is pretty much on pace with the last two (TAR 29 finished leg 6 on day 12 and had leg 7 on day 13; TAR 29 finished leg 6 on day 11 and leg 7 on day 12), hence why I suspect there's a second leg near Prague.

It would be a tight fit for Phil (unless it's a KOR where teams are held up somehow for a day) but manageable I think.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 01:00:13 AM
Didn't they start traveling on the 14th?

The swiss air flight was the 14th yes. That's what I said. 755PM

assume they want them in airport by 5 ish PM.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 15, 2017, 01:01:24 AM
I guess it just seems rather normal to me, but I guess there could of been an extra leg then.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 01:06:29 AM
Bottom line is we don't know unless we find something. 29 had a very extended leg in Korea.

Last season ran 23 days right??, expecting about the same here, maybe +1.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 15, 2017, 01:08:30 AM
They could be connecting on the South African Airlines/Swiss Air connection via Johannesburg to Victoria Falls that would arrive at 1230pm 10/15
SA/LX 7241 ZRHJNB 2240 0910‡1                           
SA 40 JNBVFA 1050 1230 

or this nearly identical combination to Harare:
LX 288 ZRHJNB 2240 0910‡1
SA 22 JNBHRE 1045 1215

I can't imagine they'd stay in Vic Falls since they were just there with the Reporters, but from there it's a half hour drive to Chobe, Botswana.           

Okay . So we have ONE set of flights:
Prague>Zurich Swiss Air 1499
And either to Harare or Victoria Falls as above.

Now we need another set for the remaining teams.  :angel

Does it have to be from Zurich? If not, then

LH 1401 PRG FRA 1849 1944
ET 707 FRA ADD 2204 0600 (10/15)

and either of
ET 873 ADD HRE 0925 1230
ET 829 ADD VFA 0835 1215

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 01:25:43 AM
It has to be from Prague  based on the other teams leaving from there.

 just saw Addis too...but wonder if production would allow a transfer there right now?

Thanks Zack!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 15, 2017, 05:14:36 AM
Is this one of the Violinist?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Travejunkie on October 15, 2017, 06:08:23 AM
Could also be on:

EK 140 PRGDXB   1555 2350                       
EK 713 DXBHRE 0925 1710       

OK 296 PRGBEY 2200 0230‡1                       
ET 407 BEYADD 0335 0750                       
ET 873 ADDHRE 0925 1230       

LH 1401 PRGFRA 1850 1955                       
LH 572 FRAJNB 2205 0830‡1                         
LH/SA 9554 JNBHRE 1045 1215

or

KL/OK 3122 PRGAMS 1730 1900                     
KL/KQ 4141 AMSNBO 2045 0605‡1                       
KL/KQ 4215 NBOVFA 0720 0935 


OK 618 PRGAMS 1730 1900                       
KQ 117 AMSNBO 2045 0605‡1                     
KQ 792 NBOVFA 0720 0935


AF 1583 PRGCDG 2035 2220                         
AF 990 CDGJNB 2325 0955‡1                         
BA/MN 6285 JNBVFA 1125 1305
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 15, 2017, 06:09:03 AM
Agree except no proof or evidence for a F6 NEL right? ???

Leg 6 Prague finished approx. 3PM?? 12th (using 3PM as example)
Released about 3AM 13th
Leg 7 3am to 3pm 13th
Pitstop 3PM to 3AM 14th
Gives them close to 12 hours to get back to Prague for Swiss Air flight dep 755PM 14th

This is way too much time for an extended PitStop...IMO. 48++ hours??
Can't rule it out...but regardless we have to consider that it remains a possibility.


Keep in mind we still need a second set of flights for remainder of teams...

I agree 48ish hours seems like a lot, but my issue with that itinerary is that pitstops nowdays seem to sit around the 18-22 hours mark at least and extended ones even longer (based off the past (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,31236.msg1156923.html#msg1156923) three (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,31690.msg1167342.html#msg1167342) seasons (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,32178.msg1197394.html#msg1197394)). ~12 hours for a pitstop is awfully short and we haven't seen it in a good while.

I guess they could always released them early on the 14th for a task and have this be a split leg alike Zimbabwe/Paris and Athens/Hanoi... potentially something else to consider.

Not saying a missing leg is impossible, just saying that precedence has me leaning towards only one leg in Prague. Thoughts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 06:47:26 AM
I think we may not know. We'll have to see how things go from here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 15, 2017, 08:17:20 AM
Is this one of the Violinist?
Interesting! Looks like the tall one to me. Not sure if the backpack matches though. Can anyone else confirm or refute based on the backpack?

I'm curious about two things now: Do racers ever carry extra backpacks (empty) in case one of theirs rips, etc? Also, do racers ever change their facial hair during a race? (Start growing a beard or shave off a beard they started the race with.)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 15, 2017, 08:21:31 AM
Is this one of the Violinist?
Interesting! Looks like the tall one to me. Not sure if the backpack matches though. Can anyone else confirm or refute based on the backpack?

I'm curious about two things now: Do racers ever carry extra backpacks (empty) in case one of theirs rips, etc? Also, do racers ever change their facial hair during a race? (Start growing a beard or shave off a beard they started the race with.)

Here's the Violinists as taken in Iceland, I think carrying another extra backpack seems absurd, but maybe a pouchbag? They do shave, there's Matt Ladley from last season. There's some instances where his beard is visible and others with him a clean cut.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 15, 2017, 08:23:26 AM
OR, maybe the Harare police were using water canons where the TAR racers were scheduled to be.  Same day after all.

I think if a country having unrest was next up, producers might take a day or so to discuss the safety or practicality of the next scheduled leg of the race.

Which kind of raises an interesting question.  Have they ever said if they have back up or alternate plans in case of disaster, civil unrest, or other issues?  I would think they'd have a back up plan, but don't remember seeing that addressed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 15, 2017, 08:24:19 AM
Is this one of the Violinist?
Interesting! Looks like the tall one to me. Not sure if the backpack matches though. Can anyone else confirm or refute based on the backpack?

I'm curious about two things now: Do racers ever carry extra backpacks (empty) in case one of theirs rips, etc? Also, do racers ever change their facial hair during a race? (Start growing a beard or shave off a beard they started the race with.)

Doesn't appear to be the same backpack. The violinists backpacks are lighter in color.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 15, 2017, 08:44:17 AM
Is this one of the Violinist?
No the color backpack doesn't match there's and the face structure doesn't look like them at all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 15, 2017, 09:01:06 AM
OR, maybe the Harare police were using water canons where the TAR racers were scheduled to be.  Same day after all.

I think if a country having unrest was next up, producers might take a day or so to discuss the safety or practicality of the next scheduled leg of the race.

Which kind of raises an interesting question.  Have they ever said if they have back up or alternate plans in case of disaster, civil unrest, or other issues?  I would think they'd have a back up plan, but don't remember seeing that addressed.
There have been many instances in the past when a pre-scheduled leg was replaced due to various reasons.
Not sure if they always have alternative tasks in mind, but pretty sure they think on their feet.

It's not possible to predict which leg might have to be replaced, so if you have an extra leg planned in, say, Germany, but are in China right now and need to replace an Asian leg, it wouldn't work.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 15, 2017, 09:19:36 AM
I just think that is more likely than another leg, they made other plans IN CASE, waited to see if all calmed down, it did, so on with it.

?

Or perhaps the scrapped the "find this street vendor" task and took a day to make a new plan.    :dontgo:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 15, 2017, 09:29:06 AM
Is this one of the Violinist?
Interesting! Looks like the tall one to me. Not sure if the backpack matches though. Can anyone else confirm or refute based on the backpack?

I'm curious about two things now: Do racers ever carry extra backpacks (empty) in case one of theirs rips, etc? Also, do racers ever change their facial hair during a race? (Start growing a beard or shave off a beard they started the race with.)

Here's the Violinists as taken in Iceland, I think carrying another extra backpack seems absurd, but maybe a pouchbag? They do shave, there's Matt Ladley from last season. There's some instances where his beard is visible and others with him a clean cut.
Thank you for the response & info! Yes, I agree an extra full size backpack wouldn't be practical, but maybe a pouchbag or something like it? I'm still not convinced that's not a Violinist but the backpack definitely does look different, at least the part we can see. Guess time will tell!  :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 15, 2017, 09:45:19 AM
If Asia isnt visited this season will be the first season without a visit to Asia. Is this likely or unlikely?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 09:47:52 AM
If Asia isnt visited this season will be the first season without a visit to Asia. Is this likely or unlikely?

First non-Family Edition season, yes. But can't see them skipping Asia.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 15, 2017, 09:59:12 AM
I can't see them skipping Asia either.

This was interesting, the US warnings aren't as elaborate, but according to this https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/zimbabwe/safety-and-security busses, trains, and planes run there are not safe, and driving is very tricky too. 

Kind of cool to visit a spot that has so many warnings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 15, 2017, 10:13:41 AM
I just think that is more likely than another leg, they made other plans IN CASE, waited to see if all calmed down, it did, so on with it.

?

Or perhaps the scrapped the "find this street vendor" task and took a day to make a new plan.    :dontgo:
Oh, yeah, I agree with you. I also don't think we're missing a leg, but we COULD be.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 15, 2017, 10:24:03 AM
Helps to have your own personal camera crew...crime deterrent.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 10:40:22 AM
Sounds like they may have landed in Harare in the last hour according to a few tweets by Jody fans.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on October 15, 2017, 11:15:15 AM
Could someone explain the Rome sightings? Were the teams mostly in Prague and just one task in Rome (or maybe a Fast Forward or something)?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 15, 2017, 11:20:17 AM
It was possibly sequester.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 15, 2017, 11:22:39 AM
6 teams are in Harare. Confirmed by Jody fan source.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 15, 2017, 11:26:28 AM
I would really like to know who that 6th team is.. Hopefully we can find out today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 15, 2017, 11:27:00 AM
Johneesa‏ @johneesa

Leg 7(Czch->Zmb) will be NEL
Leg 8(Zmb) will be an Elimination Leg with Double U-TURN in play
Remaining legs will move to Asia #Jody #TAR30


Anyone know this person of how they would know this?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 15, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
Could someone explain the Rome sightings? Were the teams mostly in Prague and just one task in Rome (or maybe a Fast Forward or something)?

Rome was probably where eliminated teams were sequestered or at least flew into. Rome has flights from many places, making it easy for eliminated teams to go there and I know Italy was used at least once before in Season 22 for sequestering.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 15, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
Unless they have some sort of in with a member of production with really loose lips, and they feel ballsy enough to put their informants job on the line by divulging that info, I think it’s just spec presented as fact

It’s likely they’ll hold two legs there, and not unreasonable to have another W-turn, but not officially confirmed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 15, 2017, 11:33:10 AM
Johneesa‏ @johneesa

Leg 7(Czch->Zmb) will be NEL
Leg 8(Zmb) will be an Elimination Leg with Double U-TURN in play
Remaining legs will move to Asia #Jody #TAR30


Anyone know this person of how they would know this?

they're just guessing based on **** they read
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seamonkey on October 15, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
I can't see them skipping Asia either.

This was interesting, the US warnings aren't as elaborate, but according to this https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/zimbabwe/safety-and-security busses, trains, and planes run there are not safe, and driving is very tricky too. 

Kind of cool to visit a spot that has so many warnings.

From those travel warnings: It is against the law for civilians to wear any form of clothing made from camouflage material.

I hope production is aware of this.

I am NOT a fan of Jessica or Cody, but they should get a heads up on this rule.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 11:38:45 AM
I can't see them skipping Asia either.

This was interesting, the US warnings aren't as elaborate, but according to this https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/zimbabwe/safety-and-security busses, trains, and planes run there are not safe, and driving is very tricky too. 

Kind of cool to visit a spot that has so many warnings.

From those travel warnings: It is against the law for civilians to wear any form of clothing made from camouflage material.

I hope production is aware of this.

I am NOT a fan of Jessica or Cody, but they should get a heads up on this rule.

I trust production would have researched that when planning the route. Last season in Zanzibar, they were not allowed to wear short clothes due to local law (it's a predominantly Islamic area)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 15, 2017, 11:41:29 AM
Until some sort of proof is shown I'm taking all these tweets as purely speculation.

 :word:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 15, 2017, 11:41:47 AM
I hope they noticed it, I don't think it was on the USA.gov site.  UK warnings were stronger and more specific, BTW they also warned about some of the game preserves/safari's not being safe, and tourists wounded or killed by animals. 

Could be a fun two days!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 15, 2017, 11:44:18 AM
I think there is a very decent chance of this leg today being a NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 15, 2017, 11:48:25 AM
In the last hour, the Jody fan accounts are suddenly all tweeting. Something might be shaking as we speak.

Jess & Cody Army‏ @JessicaCodyBB19  29m
29 minutes ago
 Teams have landed in Harare, Zimbabwe!   Anyone in the area please be on the lookout for teams racing & camera crews!  Post anything you see!
#TheAmazingRace #Zimbabwe #Harare #TeamJody

TeamJody #BB19‏ @TeamJessica15  33m
33 minutes ago
#jody have landed safely in Harare! Confirmed 6 teams left #AmazingRace #TAR30

Tammy @tammi1512 1h
Amazing race update: Jody have landed safely in Harare, Zimbabwe #BB19 #tar30 #teamjody

well at least you found the best TAR sources! I figured you guys had the flight info already (haven't been on rff since mid day yesterday)... anyways from Johannesburg they went to Harare on a SAA flight that took off at 10:45 am and landed at 12:15pm. From an eye witness there were all 6 teams on the same flight.

Jody fans are insane and somehow find this stuff way too easily... kinda scary tbh
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 15, 2017, 11:51:18 AM
I think there is a very decent chance of this leg today being a NEL.

my wild guess is today will be a nel in the safari, and then tomorrow they will head to Victoria falls and a team will be eliminated. then off to Australia or New Zealand!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 11:53:10 AM
Victoria Falls is probably not likely. They were just there 3 seasons ago, via a different nearby airport, and it's 8 hours away.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 15, 2017, 11:59:05 AM
I think the only thing that is news to us is that there apparently was an eyewitness on the flight into Harare

Based on my research I knew that Joburg was the strongest candidate, and the 10:45 to Harare was the strongest candidate

Love to hear more regarding that on flight sighting
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 15, 2017, 12:09:54 PM
Are we positive that 2 Legs will be held in Zimbabwe ? Cuz I believe so because every time they went to an african nation at half stage of the game, they've had 2 LEGS. Check for yourselves. Also, TAR30 is going on same trajectory as TAR20. I think we march towards Asia after Zimbabwe!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 12:10:59 PM
I am flying...are there pics of the 6 teams, or verbal confirmation of which 6?

Thanks, y'all be good and keep the info coming!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 12:12:09 PM
Nah, no actual pictures of them on the ground yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 15, 2017, 12:15:07 PM
I am flying...are there pics of the 6 teams, or verbal confirmation of which 6?

Thanks, y'all be good and keep the info coming!!

We know 4 of the 6 (Debaters/Lifeguards/JessCody/Twins). The other 2 are a mystery right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 15, 2017, 12:24:46 PM
I am flying...are there pics of the 6 teams, or verbal confirmation of which 6?

Thanks, y'all be good and keep the info coming!!

We know 4 of the 6 (Debaters/Lifeguards/JessCody/Twins). The other 2 are a mystery right now.

Considering there was no leg in between Prague & Zimbabwe, Skiers also made it. There was a picture proving it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 15, 2017, 12:26:26 PM
Jody were sitting in front row of the plane and others were at the back. Jody must have got a headstart!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
Jody were sitting in front row of the plane and others were at the back. Jody must have got a headstart!

That was the first flight yesterday I think? Or again?/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 15, 2017, 12:27:34 PM
Yes! Guiffreda Firefighter Twins!! Love those guys!!! Awesome
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 15, 2017, 12:32:08 PM
Yes! Guiffreda Firefighter Twins!! Love those guys!!! Awesome

Jody were sitting in front row of the plane and others were at the back. Jody must have got a headstart!

Welcome to RFF! :conf: :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 12:32:22 PM
:welcome: to all our new posters, glad you are here!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 15, 2017, 12:35:11 PM
:welcome: to all our new posters, glad you are here!

I was expressing my thoughts on Twitter (@johneesa). Wasn't aware of this amazing platform too! Thanks.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 15, 2017, 12:48:56 PM
I am flying...are there pics of the 6 teams, or verbal confirmation of which 6?

Thanks, y'all be good and keep the info coming!!
Verbal confirmation by someone who was at the Zimbabwe airport. There's a post in the live sightings thread.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 15, 2017, 03:18:22 PM
pit stop is at safari lodge in Victoria Falls
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 15, 2017, 03:20:46 PM
Nvm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 15, 2017, 03:23:34 PM
Yes, wrong info.

Pit stop is at safari lodge in Victoria Falls
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
That was season 27 and also nowhere close. Are we being messed with again?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 03:30:17 PM
That was season 27 and also nowhere close. Are we being messed with again?

There was a Phil sighting posted s few minutes ago.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/919651678772711425/photo/1

Yes. I happen to remember this exact picture from tracking Season 27.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 15, 2017, 03:35:50 PM
In the comments, when asked if they knew where the teams were headed, this person left a comment that sounds like they talked to someone locally perhaps? Unsure if confirmed, but could be a clue for us as we hunt for pictures.

Daniel @DanielWatsonLa
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22m
Replying to @Destiny_w101 and @TeamJessica15
Person in Harare said they’re headed to Dar Salaam in Tanzania
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 15, 2017, 03:37:42 PM
Dar Salaam is so far away from Harare
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 15, 2017, 03:40:14 PM
Photo from TAR 27 episode 5
Same shirt, same hat, same fishhook
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 15, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
That was season 27 and also nowhere close. Are we being messed with again?

There was a Phil sighting posted s few minutes ago.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamJessica15/status/919651678772711425/photo/1

Yes. I happen to remember this exact picture from tracking Season 27.

Someone replied to the post from this morning with that photo.

The original post was posted by Muchero Mutizwa. "We can't say Zim is boring...Amazing Race contestants racing in Zim...spotted at the airport. Season 30(our 5mins of fame:-) )"

It doesn't say that the photo is from today.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 03:42:05 PM
Yeah, this is the photo I was remembering, from the TAR27 Live thread. http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,31228.msg1109804.html#msg1109804
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 15, 2017, 03:43:37 PM
It seems way too similar to s27 plus dar es salaam was visited last season
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 15, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
Shenshen33
@jessicacodybb19 I can confirm Safari Lodge 🦏🐘🐒 #tar30  so the lady that was in that photo with Phil should be real and current  👍 facebook.com/enchantedafric…
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 15, 2017, 04:09:07 PM

Quote
Someone replied to the post from this morning with that photo.

The original post was posted by Muchero Mutizwa. "We can't say Zim is boring...Amazing Race contestants racing in Zim...spotted at the airport. Season 30(our 5mins of fame:-) )"

It doesn't say that the photo is from today.

Googled Muchero Mutizwa and she is the Managing Director at SplashArt in Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 15, 2017, 04:20:34 PM
Shenshen33
@jessicacodybb19 I can confirm Safari Lodge 🦏🐘🐒 #tar30  so the lady that was in that photo with Phil should be real and current  👍 facebook.com/enchantedafric…

Unless Phil brought the exact same outfit for each Zimbabwe visit, I still do not understand how the most recent sighting is current.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Aprilrose on October 15, 2017, 04:30:26 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/5uzQpERAH9/

It's from 2015
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 15, 2017, 04:37:54 PM
B - U - S - T - E - D.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 15, 2017, 04:54:56 PM
I think the person who replied who replied was merely pointing out TAR was there before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 15, 2017, 05:06:26 PM
Any confirmed developments since teams being spotted at the airport?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 05:15:34 PM
Any confirmed developments since teams being spotted at the airport?

Not from the looks of it. Southern Africa typically tends to be much more difficult than Europe to get verifiable sightings out of, you kinda have to have a tourist familiar with TAR who happens to be in the right place at the right time. Parts of Asia, too.

They're not gonna be as big on BB to be able to recognize Jody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 07:15:44 PM
???  Old?  or New?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: clemsonbeav on October 15, 2017, 07:24:59 PM
Lookout Cafe outside Victoria Falls. Seems like old pic.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 07:26:40 PM
Sorry,just see this discussed above. good work guys!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 08:03:19 PM
So, having never gotten to physically see anybody, is Harare, Zimbabwe even really confirmed as a destination? What a confusing day.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 15, 2017, 08:13:49 PM
So, having never gotten to physically see anybody, is Harare, Zimbabwe even really confirmed as a destination? What a confusing day.

I would say no.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 15, 2017, 08:27:44 PM
I've been in Baltimore all day so excuse me if I missed something. Perhaps they are in Zimbabwe, perhaps they aren't. I'm just not inclined to believe that these BB fans would know more information than us when it comes to a country and continent where I doubt many people know who "Jody" are. I also can't think for the life of me when Bertrum has ever been so uncreative to visit the exact same city in back to back seasons. That they really believed a photo from 2015 was current and that the same pitstop was being used shows me they have no idea what is going on, except for the information we got from a passenger that was told their going to Zimbabwe. I sincerely appreciate the help they have provided in Europe, but when it comes to Africa, it's anyones guess.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 15, 2017, 09:22:22 PM
We know from our airplane source that they were going to Zimbabwe. I believe her!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 15, 2017, 09:32:16 PM
We know from our airplane source that they were going to Zimbabwe. I believe her!

The source who was on the flight to Zurich was a great help.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 09:42:21 PM
Well, if they spent the leg out in some village on the plains, as they like to do in Africa, chances are rather slim we'd get anything.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 15, 2017, 09:49:56 PM
This route could end up a lot like TAR 6: USA -> Europe (Iceland first) -> Africa for one leg -> Europe -> Africa for one leg -> Asia -> USA
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 15, 2017, 09:50:57 PM
I've been in Baltimore all day so excuse me if I missed something. Perhaps they are in Zimbabwe, perhaps they aren't. I'm just not inclined to believe that these BB fans would know more information than us when it comes to a country and continent where I doubt many people know who "Jody" are. I also can't think for the life of me when Bertrum has ever been so uncreative to visit the exact same city in back to back seasons. That they really believed a photo from 2015 was current and that the same pitstop was being used shows me they have no idea what is going on, except for the information we got from a passenger that was told their going to Zimbabwe. I sincerely appreciate the help they have provided in Europe, but when it comes to Africa, it's anyones guess.

There was a legit sighting in the Harare airport. They confirmed seeing 6 teams.

Lots of people fell for the 2015 photo/

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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 15, 2017, 09:55:56 PM
personal comments removed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 15, 2017, 10:10:23 PM
Lots of people fell for the 2015 photo, not just Jody fans. Don't be rude.  :groan:

I kept myself in check, but for a while today, I assumed you were purposefully trolling us with those photos :(

I saw several versions of that photo before I found the original post. The background sign was purposely covered up, one with something that purposely flamed us. The thing is by us ALL not working together, a disservice is being done especially to the Jody fans. They could have checked here with some of the more seasoned detectives. It's a shame.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 15, 2017, 10:18:12 PM
I've been in Baltimore all day so excuse me if I missed something. Perhaps they are in Zimbabwe, perhaps they aren't. I'm just not inclined to believe that these BB fans would know more information than us when it comes to a country and continent where I doubt many people know who "Jody" are. I also can't think for the life of me when Bertrum has ever been so uncreative to visit the exact same city in back to back seasons. That they really believed a photo from 2015 was current and that the same pitstop was being used shows me they have no idea what is going on, except for the information we got from a passenger that was told their going to Zimbabwe. I sincerely appreciate the help they have provided in Europe, but when it comes to Africa, it's anyones guess.
There was a legit sighting in the Harare airport. They confirmed seeing 6 teams.

Lots of people fell for the 2015 photo, not just Jody fans. Don't be rude.  :groan:

No mean intentions at all. I think we're all confused and a lot of confusion could be saved by doing research and checking sources before selling something as fact. No big though, we'll find um again!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 15, 2017, 10:24:34 PM
Lots of people fell for the 2015 photo, not just Jody fans. Don't be rude.  :groan:

I kept myself in check, but for a while today, I assumed you were purposefully trolling us with those photos :(
I found it on Twitter from a Jody fan. I don't troll.

The woman posted the pic on Facebook today but it was from an earlier season. It was an honest mistake on everyone's part.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GabrielP on October 15, 2017, 11:55:27 PM
This route could end up a lot like TAR 6: USA -> Europe (Iceland first) -> Africa for one leg -> Europe -> Africa for one leg -> Asia -> USA

Check my posts at location wishlists thread, there could be a possibly of having two legs in Southeast Asia and the other two in Australia. A reverse route of the first half of TAR 22.

Haven’t posted here in forever... I live in Australia (Melbourne) and I’m a huge Jody fan (Jessica is my fave player from recent BB seasons), so if they come here I can try to help, I‘m willing to even go to the airport and wait for them lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 16, 2017, 12:22:58 AM
Zimbabwe isn't dangerous, cause all of the international cricket teams go there. If it was very dangerous, they wouldn't go  :groan:

Is Zimbabwe even conformed?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 12:41:50 AM
Zimbabwe is pretty confirmed, if you read above you will see the photos, tweets, and responses to someone that was on the plane with racers who was told where they were headed.

As far as it "not being dangerous" there is a difference between soccer teams playing at a stadium and "make your way (by bus, train, car) to this location as TAR racers do.  Those warnings about dangers all came from the UK gov site, including the ban on an camouflage wear.  So if the buses, trains, and cars are all dangerous ways to travel, that could restrict activities for racers.  Ditto the warnings about poorly run and dangerous safari and animal santuary or zoo areas.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 16, 2017, 12:44:01 AM
This route could end up a lot like TAR 6: USA -> Europe (Iceland first) -> Africa for one leg -> Europe -> Africa for one leg -> Asia -> USA

Check my posts at location wishlists thread, there could be a possibly of having two legs in Southeast Asia and the other two in Australia. A reverse route of the first half of TAR 22.

Haven’t posted here in forever... I live in Australia (Melbourne) and I’m a huge Jody fan (Jessica is my fave player from recent BB seasons), so if they come here I can try to help, I‘m willing to even go to the airport and wait for them lol

It's great to have you back! If you want to help if TAR visits your area, we keep a list of people's locations here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,29785.150.html (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,29785.150.html)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 01:37:11 AM
The last three consecutive seasons had Asia as the last continent and places in East Asia were the penultimate legs before finishing in the US and that may not going to do it agaijln. I could possibly Zimbabwe would give only one leg with a planned 30-32 hour extended Pit Stop in Harare before leaving to Southeast Asia.

So, we could be going to move on on a penultimate leg in the second Australian leg.

Oceanian legs at the end stages of the race is a rarity but Asian legs are very common
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 02:35:28 AM
Once they get off the plane do they usually get a day rest? Someone just posted on the FB that they are doing 4x4 races at a Lodge today but they all arrived yesterday.

Aberfoyle Lodge maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 16, 2017, 02:38:35 AM
Once they get off the plane do they usually get a day rest? Someone just posted on the FB that they are doing 4x4 races at a Lodge today but they all arrived yesterday.

When they arrived in Zim, it was evening. It's morning there now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 02:41:03 AM
Once they get off the plane do they usually get a day rest? Someone just posted on the FB that they are doing 4x4 races at a Lodge today but they all arrived yesterday.

When they arrived in Zim, it was evening. It's morning there now.

Ah so probably all went to a hotel to rest and they're starting now! 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 02:58:31 AM
Once they get off the plane do they usually get a day rest? Someone just posted on the FB that they are doing 4x4 races at a Lodge today but they all arrived yesterday.

When they arrived in Zim, it was evening. It's morning there now.

Ah so probably all went to a hotel to rest and they're starting now!

Which means there won't be much difference b/w the teams. Roadblock is usually an easy part there where they might have to get a clue from victoria fall by locating via helicopter. Detour will decide this leg! And ofcourse the zimbabwe customs too :p
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 03:49:23 AM
We have a thread for "wishlists".

We have a thread to discuss Jody.

Please try to keep THIS thread to actual SPOILER discussion?

Thanks guys, and welcome back old friends and NEW!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 04:06:24 AM
Detours and roadblocks for TAR27 Zimbabwe leg included bungee jumping, balancing, walking the lion, feeding the crocs, rowing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 04:11:22 AM
They must be in one of these lodges
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 16, 2017, 04:59:44 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are in Zimbabwe an extra day. This seems like the set up for another of TAR's "let's build some community a school" projects.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 05:17:11 AM
Times getting short though...we only have another week.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 05:24:06 AM
They must be in one of these lodges

There are a few more...Amalinde for one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 06:42:31 AM
We now know the pitstop also. Lets get some pics!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 07:25:16 AM
DMH Law is at Eastgate Shopping Centre in Harare. Could the "lodge" be closer to the city?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 07:36:20 AM
Lifeguards and Skiers are first two teams at the pitstop. Others are still reaching!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 16, 2017, 07:37:05 AM
Lifeguards and Skiers are first two teams at the pitstop. Others are still reaching!

Where did you find out that they are first two teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 16, 2017, 07:38:08 AM
The inside of Eastgate is this

(https://i.imgur.com/VC0LL8o.jpg)

which seems like a pretty cool location *just* to get a clue; I don't expect them to do a task at a law office but who knows?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 07:40:13 AM
I think there might be confusion as to "pitstop" in that thread. Another claim says First Street near Econet Shop. There is a large park nearby: Africa Unity Square.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 07:48:01 AM
Lifeguards and Skiers are first two teams at the pitstop. Others are still reaching!

Where did you find out that they are first two teams?

the source that shared the picture said so
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NMC on October 16, 2017, 08:02:16 AM
So we know for sure 5 of the 6 remaining teams?  ???

Jody
Lifeguards
Twins
Skiers
Debaters

Am I the only one hoping that Basketball are the mystery team we've been missing the last few legs?  :(
:funny:  Realistically though, I'm thinking it's either Violinists or Eaters? Although, with the Violinists being U-Turned, and no sign of them in Zimbabwe yet, chances are they've been eliminated? This is pure speculation btw, and there's absolutely no confirmation of this.  :lol:  Just one mans two cents.  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 08:09:15 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2017, 08:18:58 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks

The show hasn't aired so we have no clue how they would do considering the leg =P

That said, I'm surprised that the lifeguards keep popping out in the spoilers/sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 08:19:40 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks
They are probably better competitors than Jody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 16, 2017, 08:21:37 AM
It could be anything though; we've had plenty of good teams lose because of a bad taxi for example. :)

Also, do we know if those sightings are current? If so, I think this is the second Zimbabwe leg, with the first being Oct. 15 right when they landed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 16, 2017, 08:22:10 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks

The show hasn't aired so we have no clue how they would do considering the leg =P

That said, I'm surprised that the lifeguards keep popping out in the spoilers/sightings.

Kym & Alli beat Keith & Whitney...

Dustin & Kandice and Charla & Mirna beat Rob & Amber...

So ANYTHING can happen  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 08:24:07 AM
Aren’t the skiers Olympian’s and didn’t the lifeguards rescue around 500 people? They seem like great competitors I’m not sure why it’s surprising
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 08:26:02 AM
Shouldn't there have been a reset by now? Like no time advantages from leg to leg? They need to shake the order up. The skiers have been in front for like the past 4 legs. Like when they fly somewhere else, don't they all start when the plane lands?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NMC on October 16, 2017, 08:26:30 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks

The show hasn't aired so we have no clue how they would do considering the leg =P

That said, I'm surprised that the lifeguards keep popping out in the spoilers/sightings.

Kym & Alli beat Keith & Whitney...

Dustin & Kandice and Charla & Mirna beat Rob & Amber...

So ANYTHING can happen  :)

But Kym & Alli were a much stronger team than Keith & Whitney anyway.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 08:26:53 AM
It could be anything though; we've had plenty of good teams lose because of a bad taxi for example. :)

Also, do we know if those sightings are current? If so, I think this is the second Zimbabwe leg, with the first being Oct. 15 right when they landed.
Which means it could be another Double U TURN ? Maybe they U-turned 2 teams!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 08:30:19 AM
Shouldn't there have been a reset by now? Like no time advantages from leg to leg? They need to shake the order up. The skiers have been in front for like the past 4 legs. Like when they fly somewhere else, don't they all start when the plane lands?

They were all on th same flight so it was a reset
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on October 16, 2017, 08:30:36 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks

so many factors. They could be good at navigation skill, chose the right detour, etc. Many teams formed an alliance in the past seasons, so helping each other is another possibility. The show has not aired yet, we don't know how well their performance in the previous legs. so we can't assume that Jody are better than skiers & lifeguards, vice versa.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 16, 2017, 08:31:29 AM
Shouldn't there have been a reset by now? Like no time advantages from leg to leg? They need to shake the order up. The skiers have been in front for like the past 4 legs. Like when they fly somewhere else, don't they all start when the plane lands?

The flight(s) to Zimbabwe would act as an equalizer for the teams, assuming they all were on the same flight.

Really good teams manage to stay in the front once the plane lands  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 16, 2017, 08:32:39 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks
they could've done better in a roadblock/detour? idk how thats surprising whatsoever.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 16, 2017, 08:58:09 AM
@windsorsue Thanks for finding the correct link for the pics I post in the other thread. I knew someone would be able too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 09:09:27 AM
@windsorsue Thanks for finding the correct link for the pics I post in the other thread. I knew someone would be able too.

You're welcome!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 16, 2017, 09:23:47 AM
Do we know if the people who took those pictures are still there? If so, this is a pretty big lapse in time between the first two teams and the others.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 09:28:13 AM
Exactly what I was wondering too.???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 16, 2017, 09:34:03 AM
That's pretty common in TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 16, 2017, 09:47:34 AM
Lifeguards and Skiers are first two teams at the pitstop. Others are still reaching!

Is the clue envelope the Skier on the left has important? Would she just be receiving a new one for an extended leg maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 09:51:10 AM
It seems to me Lifeguards checked in before skiers

Lifeguards have ice cream in all pics, skiers seem to receive it at some point among the pictures
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 16, 2017, 09:52:52 AM
Lifeguards and Skiers are first two teams at the pitstop. Others are still reaching!

Is the clue envelope the Skier on the left has important? Would she just be receiving a new one for an extended leg maybe?

She may be just putting clues in her fanny pack, and sometimes racers don't put their clues in their fanny pace while on the way to the Pit Stop. Also, it could be they trying to use the clue to find the Pit Stop and simply didn't have time to put it (as they're in a footrace).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 09:54:05 AM
If it was keep on racing I don’t think they would hold the lifeguards there or give them ice cream. I have a feeling it’s a regular nel if anything
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 10:11:21 AM
If it was keep on racing I don’t think they would hold the lifeguards there or give them ice cream. I have a feeling it’s a regular nel if anything

fwiw the guy who said they were 1st and 2nd... doesn't know for sure, those were just the first teams he saw.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 10:12:40 AM
If it was keep on racing I don’t think they would hold the lifeguards there or give them ice cream. I have a feeling it’s a regular nel if anything

fwiw the guy who said they were 1st and 2nd... doesn't know for sure, those were just the first teams he saw.

No matter what place they were in they usually wouldn’t hold them on the mat for a keep on racing leg it goes quick
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 16, 2017, 10:18:59 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaUEVmOA89b/?tagged=harare

Production Crew
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 10:29:33 AM
Witness says lifeguards and skieres are teams he saw on the mat then they packed up and left shortly afterwards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 10:32:29 AM
I bet NEL..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 16, 2017, 10:35:34 AM
Witness says lifeguards and skieres are teams he saw on the mat then they packed up and left shortly afterwards.

Just wondering if you got to talk with the witness or did you see this some place else?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 16, 2017, 10:35:59 AM
This must have been NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 16, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
What's up with the lifeguards eating an ice cream lol ?
It almost looks like they were waiting for their penalty and decided to eat an ice cream while waiting, and then the skiers showed up and both team checked in...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 10:40:34 AM
How the heck is the skiers and lifeguards beating Jody? It makes no sense to me.  :chute:

They got to be helping eachother in tasks

Well I thought Racecar drivers and Violinists would for sure make the finals and now I am hearing that one or both of those teams could be out.  Lot of things can go wrong and the order can switch constantly.

Also we don't even know the lifeguards and skiers were front of pack.. Now I am hearing they packed up after skiers and lifeguards arrived implying they could be last.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 10:44:39 AM
People on twitter are now saying the skiers and lifeguards could have been top 2 middle 2 or bottom 2
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 10:46:24 AM
What's up with the lifeguards eating an ice cream lol ?
It almost looks like they were waiting for their penalty and decided to eat an ice cream while waiting, and then the skiers showed up and both team checked in...

Thinking the same thing. Skiers look upset in some of the pics, but if they were last, Phil is smiling a bit too much for an elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 16, 2017, 10:47:54 AM
Aren’t the skiers Olympian’s and didn’t the lifeguards rescue around 500 people? They seem like great competitors I’m not sure why it’s surprising

Olympians have to do with Greek mythology. Did you mean Olympic athletes? In that case, no, they are not Olympic athletes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 10:51:58 AM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 10:52:59 AM
Aren’t the skiers Olympian’s and didn’t the lifeguards rescue around 500 people? They seem like great competitors I’m not sure why it’s surprising

Olympians have to do with Greek mythology. Did you mean Olympic athletes? In that case, no, they are not Olympic athletes.

Yeah but no. Olympian refers to Olympic athletes as well.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 16, 2017, 10:53:40 AM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,

If Phil is smiling at that moment, probably is a NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 10:57:10 AM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,

If Phil is smiling at that moment, probably is a NEL
Also, so many people gathered around. Its hard to digest them being first and huge crowd already there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 11:01:49 AM
Aren’t the skiers Olympian’s and didn’t the lifeguards rescue around 500 people? They seem like great competitors I’m not sure why it’s surprising

Olympians have to do with Greek mythology. Did you mean Olympic athletes? In that case, no, they are not Olympic athletes.

i dont know if this is passive aggressive but olympians also means olympic athletes. i thought i read they were in the olympics. guess not
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 11:04:56 AM
I still think this is a NEL. They prob want more teams racing in Africa for the filming. The eliminated team has to fly all the way back from Africa to sequester in Europe. They prob would keep them around another leg until they all leave at the same time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 16, 2017, 11:14:25 AM
I still think this is a NEL. They prob want more teams racing in Africa for the filming. The eliminated team has to fly all the way back from Africa to sequester in Europe. They prob would keep them around another leg until they all leave at the same time

I thought that from F6 eliminated teams don't go into sequester and just travel with production along the route, used as decoys and leg testers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
I still think this is a NEL. They prob want more teams racing in Africa for the filming. The eliminated team has to fly all the way back from Africa to sequester in Europe. They prob would keep them around another leg until they all leave at the same time

I thought that from F6 eliminated teams don't go into sequester and just travel with production along the route, used as decoys and leg testers.

I think it depends on where they are location wise. Not sure if every season is the same? Could be. Either way I feel like they want more teams to film in Africa because of the thrilling tasks that they usually have. Just my opinion
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 11:17:48 AM
It should be noted that the person who saw skiers/Lifeguards went to work and came back and everything was packed up..

So lifeguards skiers arent necessarly bottom OR top two..  Just the only two seen by that source.  They could have placed anywhere.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 11:20:28 AM
^ Interesting. I'm guessing they were either top 2 or towards the upper pack if the guy went to work and came back to packing up.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 11:21:19 AM
^ Interesting. I'm guessing they were either top 2 or towards the upper pack if the guy went to work and came back to packing up.

no he didn't come back to packing up.  When he came back everything was gone. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 11:23:16 AM
Oh gotcha. Who knows they clean up everything so fast
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 16, 2017, 11:25:38 AM
I still think this is a NEL. They prob want more teams racing in Africa for the filming. The eliminated team has to fly all the way back from Africa to sequester in Europe. They prob would keep them around another leg until they all leave at the same time

I thought that from F6 eliminated teams don't go into sequester and just travel with production along the route, used as decoys and leg testers.

Oh wow. I never knew that. Very cool!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 11:29:16 AM
We do know they are 2 of the last 6. Lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 11:31:39 AM
We should say USUALLY F6 run as decoys after elim, though sometimes it’s F5 (TAR 14 Mel/Mike went to sequester in 6th)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 16, 2017, 11:35:51 AM
We do know they are 2 of the last 6. Lol

Are mat interviews done in the order of placement?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 12:12:33 PM
Comments from the Muchero Mutizwa FB Post


Nyaradzo M: One of their pit stops was DMH lawyers at eastgate 🤗🤗

Thandiwe Z: Just saw them as well, their pit stop is on First street in Harare CBD just out side the econet shop

Gloria M: i spotted them over lunch outside fcb samora. probably headed to the econet pit stop.


I think the first comment is a possible task location while the other ones refer to the actual pitstop!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 12:17:26 PM
If skiers and lifeguards were place 5 and 6, that means we have to figure out where Jody, twins, debaters, and mystery team placed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 12:18:39 PM
If skiers and lifeguards were place 5 and 6, that means we have to figure out where Jody, twins, debaters, and mystery team placed

Where did it say they were 5 and 6? We do not know that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 12:21:06 PM
If skiers and lifeguards were place 5 and 6, that means we have to figure out where Jody, twins, debaters, and mystery team placed

Mystery team is an MM team ( Eaters, Indy 500, Violinists or NBA)

I don't think its NBA but everyone else is fair game.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 12:25:42 PM
If skiers and lifeguards were place 5 and 6, that means we have to figure out where Jody, twins, debaters, and mystery team placed

Mystery team is an MM team ( Eaters, Indy 500, Violinists or NBA)

I don't think its NBA but everyone else is fair game.
I'd guess it's either Indy or violin. Ball went out after the leg in France of the video clip we saw of them having a speed bump.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 16, 2017, 12:45:48 PM
Getting late in the race now, the rest of the route's going to be interesting, has to be big jumps from here on to get back to the states.

Wonder if they'd actually do a third leg in Africa for the first time in years. Still hopeful for at least one Oceania leg at the end, but the chance is lessening in the time left since at least two Asian countries per season are the norm :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 12:59:22 PM
If skiers and lifeguards were place 5 and 6, that means we have to figure out where Jody, twins, debaters, and mystery team placed

Where did it say they were 5 and 6? We do not know that

No we don't .. All we know is a person saw them at the pitstop took some photos, went back to work came back and everything was gone.  We are not even sure how long they were gone for.

NO way to tell their or anyone elses placement for this leg unless we get some more photos.

All we know is that

1) Ski Girls and LIfeguards placed close to eachtoher
2) The leg if definietly over.

This could very well be a NEL too so keep that in mind.. All 6 teams could still be there for the next one.
   
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 16, 2017, 01:19:23 PM
Quote from: WindsorSue
I think there might be confusion as to "pitstop" in that thread. Another claim says First Street near Econet Shop.
I agree; the "Topics" shop and Greenwood Pharmacy in the photo puts them near the corner of First and Silundika.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 01:29:23 PM
What's up with the lifeguards eating an ice cream lol ?
It almost looks like they were waiting for their penalty and decided to eat an ice cream while waiting, and then the skiers showed up and both team checked in...

Sometimes esp when HOt they get a treat...coconuts, ice cream, etc
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 01:43:28 PM
Yayyyy pic of Jody found at the pitstiop!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 01:56:02 PM
We should say USUALLY F6 run as decoys after elim, though sometimes it’s F5 (TAR 14 Mel/Mike went to sequester in 6th)

We haven't had decoys in years though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 01:58:55 PM

Are mat interviews done in the order of placement?

On the Mat Interviews are done live time.

Post leg Interviews are done right after they leave Mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: clace on October 16, 2017, 02:01:13 PM
Can placement be deduced by looking at shadows? In the picture of Jody, there's a solid shadow over most of the mat. In the picture of lifeguards/skiers, there's sun on the mat and the shadow is "dappled" (from the trees). Not sure whether this was in the am or pm.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 02:07:50 PM
Can placement be deduced by looking at shadows? In the picture of Jody, there's a solid shadow over most of the mat. In the picture of lifeguards/skiers, there's sun on the mat and the shadow is "dappled" (from the trees). Not sure whether this was in the am or pm.

Welcome to RFF!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 16, 2017, 02:08:57 PM
Can placement be deduced by looking at shadows? In the picture of Jody, there's a solid shadow over most of the mat. In the picture of lifeguards/skiers, there's sun on the mat and the shadow is "dappled" (from the trees). Not sure whether this was in the am or pm.

Where is the pic, I havent seen it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:10:24 PM
It looks later because there is no sun on Phil’s shirt you’re right. And Cody looks not happy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 02:11:27 PM
It looks later because there is no sun on Phil’s shirt you’re right. And Cody looks not happy
Loool you can't base anything off of codys face, he is always like that. It's too bad Jess face is blocked cause hat would say a lot more
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:12:26 PM
He usually looks mad he looks more upset and Phil is giving those hands he does LOL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: clace on October 16, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
Lifeguards/skiers: https://twitter.com/shinigamishinz0/status/919901163906060288 (click on the photos to see the uncropped versions which show the shadow)

Jody: https://twitter.com/shinigamishinz0/status/919997809536983041
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 16, 2017, 02:14:04 PM
Cody definitely does not look happy. But he is known to be expressionless sometimes. Phil's hands seem to be saying "what happened?" Don't want to jump to any conclusions, but I'm not getting a good vibe from this picture.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 16, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
He usually looks mad he looks more upset and Phil is giving those hands he does LOL

"More upset?"  :groan: I don't know how you're coming to that conclusion. There's a shadow on his face.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 02:14:14 PM
He usually looks mad he looks more upset and Phil is giving those hands he does LOL
Your making lots of assumptions. Phil always uses his hands when talking.....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
Ya I would not assume anything off those pictures, espically when it comes to trying to read Cody's facial expressions..

Hopefully the person who posted it will come forward with some more details.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jruffo15 on October 16, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
Photo taking from different angle then the other photos.  There is sun on the mat and Jess and Cody.  I think everyone is jumping the gun on Cody’s face and the sun position in a picture.😜
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:18:45 PM
He usually looks mad he looks more upset and Phil is giving those hands he does LOL
Your making lots of assumptions. Phil always uses his hands when talking.....

Didn’t you say the skiers looked  upset and made an assumption they were in 5 or 6th place a couple hours ago? Lol ok
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 02:19:12 PM
The girls friend who took the pic, she is asking her what time she took it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 02:19:25 PM
Can placement be deduced by looking at shadows? In the picture of Jody, there's a solid shadow over most of the mat. In the picture of lifeguards/skiers, there's sun on the mat and the shadow is "dappled" (from the trees). Not sure whether this was in the am or pm.

Yes. It's been done before. Also look at the pics that were posted by production companies because (I would SPECULATE) those were set up shots. You must also determine direction they are facing. BUT also be aware that it's just one piece of the puzzle. There could be a team later or there could be a penalty.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:19:50 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,

Here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 02:20:13 PM
Cody definitely does not look happy. But he is known to be expressionless sometimes. Phil's hands seem to be saying "what happened?" Don't want to jump to any conclusions, but I'm not getting a good vibe from this picture.
Lol Cody looked the same way when he won America’s Favorite Houseguest
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 02:21:08 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
It's so frustrating to come here and see people jumping to conclusions like that for no reason.

This isn't directed solely at you, jboy224, but I wish everyone stopped making false claims when we know so little. :/
Reading through this thread has become really tough trying to find useful info.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 16, 2017, 02:21:22 PM
Don't know him - not a fan of any BB incarnation-, but he could look that way just because they had a bad race day - what could make them think they're in last place, or just being unhappy because they had a chance to win the leg and for some mistake in a task or while traveling they lost that chance -. Wouldn't be the first time that a team looks frustated at the PS.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 02:22:10 PM
Well we do now have Picture evidence confirming the 5 teams we already pretty much knew made it there..

I am still really wanting to know who that mystery 6th team is though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 02:23:26 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
It's so frustrating to come here and see people jumping to conclusions like that for no reason.

This isn't directed solely at you, jboy224, but I wish everyone stopped making false claims when we know so little. :/
Reading through this thread has become really tough trying to find useful info.
I'm just discussing what was reported. The person who was there when the skiers and lifeguards were at pit stop said the camera crews wrapped up after they checked in, iteoukd make sense they would be in last if they aren't waiting for any other teams no?????
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 16, 2017, 02:23:48 PM
Cody is not a smily person. Even if they came in first, he would still be stone faced.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:24:30 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
It's so frustrating to come here and see people jumping to conclusions like that for no reason.

This isn't directed solely at you, jboy224, but I wish everyone stopped making false claims when we know so little. :/
Reading through this thread has become really tough trying to find useful info.
I'm just discussing what was reported. The person who was there when the skiers and lifeguards were at pit stop said the camera crews wrapped up after they checked in, iteoukd make sense they would be in last if they aren't waiting for any other teams no?????

That’s not what he said. He said when he CAME BACK FROM WORK they were all gone.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 02:25:27 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
It's so frustrating to come here and see people jumping to conclusions like that for no reason.

This isn't directed solely at you, jboy224, but I wish everyone stopped making false claims when we know so little. :/
Reading through this thread has become really tough trying to find useful info.
I'm just discussing what was reported. The person who was there when the skiers and lifeguards were at pit stop said the camera crews wrapped up after they checked in, iteoukd make sense they would be in last if they aren't waiting for any other teams no?????

That’s not what he said. He said when he CAME BACK FROM WORK they were all gone.
He works right in front of where they were wow,
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 02:25:53 PM
Don't know him - not a fan of any BB incarnation-, but he could look that way just because they had a bad race day - what could make them think they're in last place, or just being unhappy because they had a chance to win the leg and for some mistake in a task or while traveling they lost that chance -. Wouldn't be the first time that a team looks frustated at the PS.
Cody always looks “unhappy” though.. he hardly if ever smiles 😂. It’s hard trying to read him we’ve been trying to do it for four months with no luck lol. It would be better to tell if we had a picture of Jess’s face
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:27:05 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
It's so frustrating to come here and see people jumping to conclusions like that for no reason.

This isn't directed solely at you, jboy224, but I wish everyone stopped making false claims when we know so little. :/
Reading through this thread has become really tough trying to find useful info.
I'm just discussing what was reported. The person who was there when the skiers and lifeguards were at pit stop said the camera crews wrapped up after they checked in, iteoukd make sense they would be in last if they aren't waiting for any other teams no?????

That’s not what he said. He said when he CAME BACK FROM WORK they were all gone.
He works right in front of where they were wow,

Please show where he said they picked up the mat right after the skiers left because those were not the words. They looked pretty happy eating ice cream and it was earlier I wouldn’t be too concerned with them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 02:28:08 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
It's so frustrating to come here and see people jumping to conclusions like that for no reason.

This isn't directed solely at you, jboy224, but I wish everyone stopped making false claims when we know so little. :/
Reading through this thread has become really tough trying to find useful info.
I'm just discussing what was reported. The person who was there when the skiers and lifeguards were at pit stop said the camera crews wrapped up after they checked in, iteoukd make sense they would be in last if they aren't waiting for any other teams no?????

That’s not what he said. He said when he CAME BACK FROM WORK they were all gone.
He actually said shortly after they checked in production was packing up.. my friend talked to him!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 16, 2017, 02:29:20 PM
That’s not what he said. He said when he CAME BACK FROM WORK they were all gone.
He works right in front of where they were wow,
You don't know that.

Came back from work could mean anything from 4-8 hours.

Plenty of time for other teams to arrive.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 02:30:01 PM
Guys for some actual evidence... not facial expressions of an emotionless robot... I need some help.

I think we can determine the time Cody and Jess got to the pit stop vs the other 2 based on the sun shadow.

From what I can tell Jess and Cody got there and they have much less shade, meaning the sun was higher and earlier in the day than when the other 2 got there.

Now this isn’t 100% but would also help if anyone knew what direction they were facing as well if anyone can help with that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:30:27 PM
And we’re basing it off of someone that was working and in and out from the spot? That’s not confirmation yet at all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:31:31 PM
Guys for some actual evidence... not facial expressions of an emotionless robot... I need some help.

I think we can determine the time Cody and Jess got to the pit stop vs the other 2 based on the sun shadow.

From what I can tell Jess and Cody got there and they have much less shade, meaning the sun was higher and earlier in the day than when the other 2 got there.

Now this isn’t 100% but would also help if anyone knew what direction they were facing as well if anyone can help with that

Or it is the opposite which is why the pic was found later. Can go both ways.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TSPKM on October 16, 2017, 02:31:42 PM
If they packed up the cameras after the skiers and lifeguards cam then clearly they are in last place. It would also explain why the skiers look upset in the pics. It's probably a non elimination leg though. So that means next leg will prob have a u turn. The speed bump will hinder either the lifeguards or skiers,
It's so frustrating to come here and see people jumping to conclusions like that for no reason.

This isn't directed solely at you, jboy224, but I wish everyone stopped making false claims when we know so little. :/
Reading through this thread has become really tough trying to find useful info.
I'm just discussing what was reported. The person who was there when the skiers and lifeguards were at pit stop said the camera crews wrapped up after they checked in, iteoukd make sense they would be in last if they aren't waiting for any other teams no?????

That’s not what he said. He said when he CAME BACK FROM WORK they were all gone.
He works right in front of where they were wow,

jboy I understand you’re a Jody fan, but your speculations are clearly biased, not helpful and make it difficult for lurkers like myself to get a read on what’s ACTUALLY going on.

And unless he went right into work to grab a jacket and then came back out then your logic here is yet another speculation based of a bias. Just stop please
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 02:31:51 PM
The person who took the pic and works right in front of where the pit stop said it lol. I don't see the problems here, this thread is for discussing the spoilers. Sorry if I came off wrong!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
And we’re basing it off of someone that was working and in and out from the spot? That’s not confirmation yet at all
Okay he also said the later it got the crowd grew. The picture with Jody shows a smaller crowd than the picture with Skiers/Lifeguards
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:34:44 PM
There’s one pic of Jody from one angle I wouldn’t base it off a crowd
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 02:37:10 PM
Cody's face does not show different emotions. He could be the happiest guy ever right now and he would still look like that  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 16, 2017, 02:39:01 PM
Here’s what I’m basing it off.

A team that arrived with another team with more sunlight that is extremely happy smiling and eating ice cream with everyone smiling around them

Or

A team that arrived alone with less sun that does not look happy. And the pic was found later than the others.

Signs for me point to who was in the front.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 16, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
There's way more sun on Jody....,
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:41:24 PM
 :didimiss: ^
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 02:44:42 PM
Well the bulidings actually do look sunnier in Jody's picture..   Like if you look at the CABS building..

but I'm not going to base placement off the sun because I am not an expert and the pictures were taken at completely different angles.

Or facial expressions.. There could be a million reasons why Cody or ski girls look that way..

The best way to find out is to ask the source for more info.. Hopefully they will divulge some more
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 02:46:09 PM
Here’s what I’m basing it off.

A team that arrived with another team with more sunlight that is extremely happy smiling and eating ice cream with everyone smiling around them

Or

A team that arrived alone with less sun that does not look happy. And the pic was found later than the others.

Signs for me point to who was in the front.
You can only see Cody’s face and his face literally always looks “unhappy” that’s just his face. I watched him on live feeds 24/7 barely if ever would he smile. This is his face when he won 25 K looks exactly the same lol..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 16, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
Or simply the leg had really difficult tasks and it was a scorching hot day? That would make anybody look miserable at the end of the leg.

The weather says the high in Harare today was 93 F.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 02:48:26 PM
Guys for some actual evidence... not facial expressions of an emotionless robot... I need some help.

I think we can determine the time Cody and Jess got to the pit stop vs the other 2 based on the sun shadow.

From what I can tell Jess and Cody got there and they have much less shade, meaning the sun was higher and earlier in the day than when the other 2 got there.

Now this isn’t 100% but would also help if anyone knew what direction they were facing as well if anyone can help with that

Or it is the opposite which is why the pic was found later. Can go both ways.

Don’t think so, the shadow differences is very noticeable, but again not certain
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 02:50:22 PM
The person who posted the Jody pic said it was a pic taken by a friend from earlier on in the day..

So just because it was posted later doesn't mean it was taken later.. WE have no idea when these pics were taken.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
Guess we will find out soon
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 02:58:31 PM
Hopefully... I just want to find out who the 6th team is.. Is that too much to ask? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 16, 2017, 02:59:57 PM
Hopefully... I just want to find out who the 6th team is.. Is that too much to ask?
I'm with you  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: clace on October 16, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
From what I can tell Jess and Cody got there and they have much less shade, meaning the sun was higher and earlier in the day than when the other 2 got there.

They are standing under a tree so there would be plenty of shade at any hour, including noon. The key difference is the solid block shadow (of a building presumably) that is covering about half of the Jody picture, and most of the mat. This is what led me to think that the skier/lifeguard picture is taken closer to noon, and the Jody picture is further away from noon (in either direction).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: JaKAsK on October 16, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
So without having any ideas how the shadows play out earlier/later in the day, I did note the store Topics as being behind the contestants in one of the pics, and Econet/ZLG bank being behind Phil's back ... if that's right, the teams were facing south (and slightly east) and phil was facing north (and slightly west) .... now who can put the rest of the puzzle together re: shadows lol! (not me!)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 03:02:26 PM
Ok I’m more convinced now.

Solar noon is at 11:41 am there. Sunset at 5:26 pm.
We don’t know time on Jody pic.
Pic of skiers/lifeguards was af about 1:30pm there time.

Much more noticeable sun and less shade on Jody pic. The time of the lifeguards pic means the sun would’ve shifted about 30 to 40 degrees and that’s why we see so much more shade.

My best guess is Jody got there an hour or more before the skiers and lifeguards.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 16, 2017, 03:13:31 PM
Ok I’m more convinced now.

Solar noon is at 11:41 am there. Sunset at 5:26 pm.
We don’t know time on Jody pic.
Pic of skiers/lifeguards was af about 1:30pm there time.

Much more noticeable sun and less shade on Jody pic. The time of the lifeguards pic means the sun would’ve shifted about 30 to 40 degrees and that’s why we see so much more shade.

My best guess is Jody got there an hour or more before the skiers and lifeguards.

See, this is the sort of speculation I appreciate whether I agree with it or not. Step-by-step thought process that's logical and includes research.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 16, 2017, 03:17:01 PM
To be completely honest finishing order is pretty much irrelevant on every leg except for the last one.

If they didn't get last place and its not a NEL then we'll see them again.  :groan:

Also I don't recall anyone giving the skiers/lifeguards time on the mat exactly. Was this ever proven or is it a case of 'my friend said'?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 03:18:37 PM
They are standing under a tree so there would be plenty of shade at any hour, including noon. The key difference is the solid block shadow (of a building presumably) that is covering about half of the Jody picture, and most of the mat. This is what led me to think that the skier/lifeguard picture is taken closer to noon, and the Jody picture is further away from noon (in either direction).

Agreed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TSPKM on October 16, 2017, 03:18:46 PM
Ok I’m more convinced now.

Solar noon is at 11:41 am there. Sunset at 5:26 pm.
We don’t know time on Jody pic.
Pic of skiers/lifeguards was af about 1:30pm there time.

Much more noticeable sun and less shade on Jody pic. The time of the lifeguards pic means the sun would’ve shifted about 30 to 40 degrees and that’s why we see so much more shade.

My best guess is Jody got there an hour or more before the skiers and lifeguards.

..or they were much later than the skiers and lifeguards. IMO the skiers and lifeguards look way too happy to be that far behind Jody
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 03:20:12 PM
I’m actually thinking the opposite

The pic with Jody has a shadow coming in hard from a different angle

The shadow has a very clear straight edge to it, much more reminiscent of a building

Looking at that, it seems the angle of the sun is further from solar noon in their shot

We have shots of Phil by the production team, which seem closer to late morning with little to no shadow angle (shade from tree seems to come straight down), and pics with Lifeguard/Skiers having shade from tree as well

Unless Phil had been there since earlier in the morning, and the shots from the production team were from the end of the process, it seems Jody were a bit later
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 03:23:53 PM
Ok I’m more convinced now.

Solar noon is at 11:41 am there. Sunset at 5:26 pm.
We don’t know time on Jody pic.
Pic of skiers/lifeguards was af about 1:30pm there time.

Much more noticeable sun and less shade on Jody pic. The time of the lifeguards pic means the sun would’ve shifted about 30 to 40 degrees and that’s why we see so much more shade.

My best guess is Jody got there an hour or more before the skiers and lifeguards.

..or they were much later than the skiers and lifeguards. IMO the skiers and lifeguards look way too happy to be that far behind Jody

The skiers got there around 130pm. For them to get there later, it would be near dark. Good try tho
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
I’m actually thinking the opposite

The pic with Jody has a shadow coming in hard from a different angle

The shadow has a very clear straight edge to it, much more reminiscent of a building

Looking at that, it seems the angle of the sun is further from solar noon in their shot

We have shots of Phil by the production team, which seem closer to late morning with little to no shadow angle (shade from tree seems to come straight down), and pics with Lifeguard/Skiers having shade from tree as well

Unless Phil had been there since earlier in the morning, and the shots from the production team were from the end of the process, it seems Jody were a bit later

No, we know the skiers got there around 130pm. So the rest of your theory is disproven based on that fact
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 03:26:52 PM
Ok I’m more convinced now.

Solar noon is at 11:41 am there. Sunset at 5:26 pm.
We don’t know time on Jody pic.
Pic of skiers/lifeguards was af about 1:30pm there time.

Much more noticeable sun and less shade on Jody pic. The time of the lifeguards pic means the sun would’ve shifted about 30 to 40 degrees and that’s why we see so much more shade.

My best guess is Jody got there an hour or more before the skiers and lifeguards.

..or they were much later than the skiers and lifeguards. IMO the skiers and lifeguards look way too happy to be that far behind Jody

I don't think it is a good idea to judge anyones placement in a race based off of facial expressions snapped from a picture..

Besides a lot of teams are happy to just not get last (that is the main goal of each leg), some even leave proud and smiling..

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 03:28:54 PM
3pm-4pm is much later than 1:30pm, and would still be plenty sunny

And clue me in on where we have official and verified timing for Skiers/Lifeguard check in time?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 16, 2017, 03:30:58 PM
We’re the Twin 🔥 one of the teams who made it that you know of? Thankks
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 16, 2017, 03:32:10 PM
No, we know the skiers got there around 130pm. So the rest of your theory is disproven based on that fact
You are basing that off of when the picture was posted correct? How do you know it was posted immediately after being shot? It could have been an hour it could have been 3 hours. All we know is it was taken sometime before 1:30pm.

Unless .... the photographer has invented time travel!  }:>
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 16, 2017, 03:35:04 PM
We’re the Twin 🔥 one of the teams who made it that you know of? Thankks
Twins, Debaters, Lifeguards and Jody were all on the same flight from Prague to Zurich - and headed to Zimbabwe.  So far we haven't seen them in Zimbabwe, but they made that leg anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 16, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
I just had a funny thought. The skiers were not seen on that flight correct? Maybe they were on an earlier or later flight with our missing team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 03:43:26 PM
I don't think we know when any of the photos were taken yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 03:43:48 PM
I just had a funny thought. The skiers were not seen on that flight correct? Maybe they were on an earlier or later flight with our missing team.
The lady who saw the teams at Harare airport said she saw 6 teams
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 03:45:33 PM
3pm-4pm is much later than 1:30pm, and would still be plenty sunny

And clue me in on where we have official and verified timing for Skiers/Lifeguard check in time?

it would not be very sunny, the sun sets at 526pm.

and time is when guy took pic, and we talked with him and he had just taken the pic... also fwiw he went back an hour later and production already packed up
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 16, 2017, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: TravelTheWorld
The lady who saw the teams at Harare airport said she saw 6 teams
I was talking about the Zurich flight.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 16, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
I just had a funny thought. The skiers were not seen on that flight correct? Maybe they were on an earlier or later flight with our missing team.
Exactly what I've been thinking.
I'm pretty much ignoring all speculation based on facial expressions, shadows, sunlight, etc. I simply look for hard proof of which teams are still in the race!
Their exact positions really don't matter to me because that's so very difficult to verify, even despite claims by people who took photos etc. There's often a bias attached to who-finished-in-which-position claims; it's human nature to see things in a way that are favorable for one's personal favorite(s) and call it "proof".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 04:02:43 PM
No, we know the skiers got there around 130pm. So the rest of your theory is disproven based on that fact
You are basing that off of when the picture was posted correct? How do you know it was posted immediately after being shot? It could have been an hour it could have been 3 hours. All we know is it was taken sometime before 1:30pm.

Unless .... the photographer has invented time travel!  }:>

we talked to him
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
and he said he was only gone an hour and everything was packed up when he returned?

I didn't know he said how long he was gone for.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 04:33:54 PM
I just had a funny thought. The skiers were not seen on that flight correct? Maybe they were on an earlier or later flight with our missing team.
Exactly what I've been thinking.
I'm pretty much ignoring all speculation based on facial expressions, shadows, sunlight, etc. I simply look for hard proof of which teams are still in the race!
Their exact positions really don't matter to me because that's so very difficult to verify, even despite claims by people who took photos etc. There's often a bias attached to who-finished-in-which-position claims; it's human nature to see things in a way that are favorable for one's personal favorite(s) and call it "proof".

Spot on!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 04:34:58 PM
This picture was posted 4 hours ago when they were taking things down. You can see the shade matches when the pictures of the lifeguards and skiers were taken. The mat and phil have both left. There is also some dude selling ice cream.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaUTPDclqdd/?taken-by=exploreharare
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Enthusiasticcarrot on October 16, 2017, 04:36:15 PM
Phil's shirt looks like it has hard wrinkles in the skiers and lifeguards picture but not in Jody's, it would be hard to get rid of those if he was waiting for teams to arrive.  Can anyone else take a closer look at this?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 16, 2017, 04:39:21 PM
posted a photo in live sightings of Lifeguards with Phil and without Skiers and ice cream
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 04:40:36 PM
Interesting, there is a pic of only the lifeguards with Phil in other thread, I'm so confused at this point.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
You can see Jessicas hands are on her hips too, like a sign of upset. They look beat. Maybe u turned? Skiers and Lifeguards seemed more refreshed looking.????
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 04:48:39 PM
You can see Jessicas hands are on her hips too, like a sign of upset. They look beat. Maybe u turned? Skiers and Lifeguards seemed more refreshed looking.????
Hands on hips are also common with people who are catching their breath, the nfl players always do it...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 04:50:53 PM
You can see Jessicas hands are on her hips too, like a sign of upset. They look beat. Maybe u turned? Skiers and Lifeguards seemed more refreshed looking.????

Putting your hands on your hips does not necessarly = upset..   Some people stand that way and talk normally, or some people do it when they are exhausted from running to the pitstop.

Again I would not read into any of the body language stuff at all when it comes to pitstop photos. THey are extremely speculative and often misleading.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 16, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
Almost impossible to determine placement in filming unless a witness make a video in which Phil audibly calls out a number to a team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 16, 2017, 04:52:08 PM
I watched bb19. Jessica always has her hands on her hip. It's one of her go-to poses.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 04:52:37 PM
I just had a funny thought. The skiers were not seen on that flight correct? Maybe they were on an earlier or later flight with our missing team.
Exactly what I've been thinking.
I'm pretty much ignoring all speculation based on facial expressions, shadows, sunlight, etc. I simply look for hard proof of which teams are still in the race!
Their exact positions really don't matter to me because that's so very difficult to verify, even despite claims by people who took photos etc. There's often a bias attached to who-finished-in-which-position claims; it's human nature to see things in a way that are favorable for one's personal favorite(s) and call it "proof".

Spot on!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 04:53:26 PM
Did more digging, sunset was 5:57pm, basically 6pm

It doesn't take the sun 3 hours to set, so mid-afternoon being bright and sunny is not only plausible, but nigh definite

Mid-afternoon for Jody sighting seems to fit with the hard angle of the shadow (seemingly coming from a building across the square), as opposed to the slighter angle we see in the production and lifeguard/skier photos

If the tree is not the thing that is shading them, despite them standing DIRECTLY UNDER it, means the timing is further away from solar noon (that's how shadows work)

Unless they showed up around 8-9am, it would seem more plausible that Jody showed up later
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
Comments from the Muchero Mutizwa FB Post


Nyaradzo M: One of their pit stops was DMH lawyers at eastgate 🤗🤗

Thandiwe Z: Just saw them as well, their pit stop is on First street in Harare CBD just out side the econet shop

Gloria M: i spotted them over lunch outside fcb samora. probably headed to the econet pit stop.


I think the first comment is a possible task location while the other ones refer to the actual pitstop!

Karen Chengetai Ramhewa one couple asked for me for directions today!!!hope the win!!! :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 16, 2017, 05:01:15 PM
You can see Jessicas hands are on her hips too, like a sign of upset. They look beat. Maybe u turned? Skiers and Lifeguards seemed more refreshed looking.????

I do tend to agree with the comment a few posts up about trying not to analyze body language and other things as hard, mostly because we don't know what's going on in the exact moment a photo is taken. For all we know, they're just tired and a little cranky, or it's really hot outside so it's affecting their mood in the exact moment that the photo is taken. For all we know, their mood improved two seconds later and they were all smiles.

If we do try to analyze the teams' body language, we could say that in the most recent photo with the Lifeguards, they have closed off body language as well (hands on hips AND crossed arms), indicating that they could be close to last. We can't really tell, though we can make logical assumptions. But I always like to go off of fact.

For example, we know that there is time between Jody's check in and the Lifeguards/Skiers' check in because the sun is most definitely aligned differently. Now, which one got there first, it's hard to tell, until we get time stamps on when each source took their picture. I know it was said above that the source of the Skiers/Lifeguard pictures said that their pic was taken at 1:30? Personally, I kind of need proof before I fully believe that. I like to have all the facts with the evidence because I know I've jumped to conclusions one too many times.

Also, hi. Long time fan of the show and new Jody fan who found this site recently.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 05:02:17 PM
You can see Jessicas hands are on her hips too, like a sign of upset. They look beat. Maybe u turned? Skiers and Lifeguards seemed more refreshed looking.????

I do tend to agree with the comment a few posts up about trying not to analyze body language and other things as hard, mostly because we don't know what's going on in the exact moment a photo is taken. For all we know, they're just tired and a little cranky, or it's really hot outside so it's affecting their mood in the exact moment that the photo is taken. For all we know, their mood improved two seconds later and they were all smiles.

If we do try to analyze the teams' body language, we could say that in the most recent photo with the Lifeguards, they have closed off body language as well (hands on hips AND crossed arms), indicating that they could be close to last. We can't really tell, though we can make logical assumptions. But I always like to go off of fact.

For example, we know that there is time between Jody's check in and the Lifeguards/Skiers' check in because the sun is most definitely aligned differently. Now, which one got there first, it's hard to tell, until we get time stamps on when each source took their picture. I know it was said above that the source of the Skiers/Lifeguard pictures said that their pic was taken at 1:30? Personally, I kind of need proof before I fully believe that. I like to have all the facts with the evidence because I know I've jumped to conclusions one too many times.

Also, hi. Long time fan of the show and new Jody fan who found this site recently.

Welcome to RFF!!! :conf: :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 05:06:31 PM
I'm smart enough to know all that. Just thought this was the place to go for speculation,  which is not based on fact.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
*speculation alert* if the istagram pic of crew disassembling is just that (and not setting up), then the shadows from tree would be more aligned with pic with skiers/lifeguards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 05:12:54 PM
Ok, I have a pretty big nugget here... and I'll be releasing some big news in the morning... need to keep it quiet for now, but will say something fairly shocking happened that I certainly didn't see coming. Enjoy!


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 05:17:32 PM
*speculation alert* if the istagram pic of crew disassembling is just that (and not setting up), then the shadows from tree would be more aligned with pic with skiers/lifeguards.

That pic was a repost from IG user Naledi Productions earlier in the day, and was posted almost the same time as the other production pic with stand-ins at the mat. I hope we're not assuming it's take down based on the time reposted.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 05:20:46 PM
Ok, I have a pretty big nugget here... and I'll be releasing some big news in the morning... need to keep it quiet for now, but will say something fairly shocking happened that I certainly didn't see coming. Enjoy!


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4S7QjkeNLTnUHNOcTRTTGpUNXM/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4S7QjkeNLTnUHNOcTRTTGpUNXM/view

Very nice find, love videos. So one of the tasks? Thanks for this! Btw I'm new to this stuff, why do you have to wait till morning?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 16, 2017, 05:39:01 PM
Lots of people fell for the 2015 photo, not just Jody fans. Don't be rude.  :groan:

I kept myself in check, but for a while today, I assumed you were purposefully trolling us with those photos :(

I saw several versions of that photo before I found the original post. The background sign was purposely covered up, one with something that purposely flamed us. The thing is by us ALL not working together, a disservice is being done especially to the Jody fans. They could have checked here with some of the more seasoned detectives. It's a shame.

I'm the one that posted the "phil" picture on here, that was later discovered to be from a prior season. I was offline as a bad storm hit my area, knocking out our power, internet, etc after I posted it. I wasnt hiding. Sorry if this post, then lead into mistrust of some posters. That was never my intention! I was just trying to help. :(

I too saw several people had posted the picture...& I think it was an honest mistake on everyone's part. I can't speak to the other pictures that had been edited. I did see those in passing, wasn't sure what that was about or meant, so purposely posted a link here to a post that had an unedited photo.

I wasnt trolling. As a newer member to the forum (as I see many of us are) we are learning as we go. I follow several people on Twitter,  Not just Jody fans, but amazing race fans, as thats what I am first and foreemost. My goal is to look for clues on any teams. I've found most of the Jody fans to be the same and post sightings and updates for other teams as well.

I hope that helps put mind's at ease. I felt horrible when I saw the follow up posts and comments of mistrust & wanted to try and clear it up!

Thanks
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Coolhand on October 16, 2017, 05:39:31 PM
Ok, I have a pretty big nugget here... and I'll be releasing some big news in the morning... need to keep it quiet for now, but will say something fairly shocking happened that I certainly didn't see coming. Enjoy!


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4S7QjkeNLTnUHNOcTRTTGpUNXM/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4S7QjkeNLTnUHNOcTRTTGpUNXM/view

Very nice find, love videos. So one of the tasks? Thanks for this! Btw I'm new to this stuff, why do you have to wait till morning?
Definitely looks to be the skiiers competing in one side of a detour, and they both have microphones, and one of them is holding a sheet, so I wonder if the task is to memorize a traditional song and performed it for judges
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 05:40:39 PM
looks like it.. Very similar to season 20 in Africa when they had to memorize a dance routine and perform it for a judge.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 16, 2017, 05:43:56 PM
Looks like the twins.  Which we already knew made it to Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 05:45:59 PM
Looks like the twins.  Which we already knew made it to Zimbabwe.  I guess we just have to wait for morning for dangambler to reveal which leg this was on, in addition to his "shocking" news.

The twins? Are we looking at the same video? Because those 2 are women 😂
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 05:49:34 PM
Also something I noticed, Cody is wearing a jacket here when it's obviously hot in Zimbabwe while he wore tshirts in freezing cold Iceland lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 16, 2017, 05:51:05 PM
I'm smart enough to know all that. Just thought this was the place to go for speculation,  which is not based on fact.

Sorry, Bonnie, for my reply to your post! I can totally see how it comes across! I just personally feel like the Lifeguards/Skiers don't look all that relaxed, and we can't even see Jess to know how she's feeling. Also, since there's only one Jody pic to the several Lifeguards/Skiers' pic, it's really, really hard to judge. I think if we had more than one Jody pic, I'd be analyzing those in more detail.

I mean, in the most recent Lifeguards with Phil pic, they have similar closed body language (hands on hips AND crossed arms) so maybe both teams were caught in the moment when they just got to the pit stop and Phil was about to tell them their placement.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Coolhand on October 16, 2017, 05:55:47 PM
Also something I noticed, Cody is wearing a jacket here when it's obviously hot in Zimbabwe while he wore tshirts in freezing cold Iceland lol
I thought the same exact thing it's in the 90s in Harare and all of the racers seem to be covered up. I wonder if it is a cultural thing???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 16, 2017, 05:57:15 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 06:00:44 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.
Even if they were that would be productions own fault for not reading into laws ahead of time to make sure their cast was prepared and they shouldn't be held accountable for being stopped if they were
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 06:02:05 PM
Looks like the twins.  Which we already knew made it to Zimbabwe.  I guess we just have to wait for morning for dangambler to reveal which leg this was on, in addition to his "shocking" news.

The twins? Are we looking at the same video? Because those 2 are women
Yeah, it's 100% the skiers.
Great find though! That's definitely one side of the detour.

no personal comments allowed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 16, 2017, 06:02:37 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.

In the Jody photo, Cody doesn't have his hat on, which he's been wearing, I think, in every other photo, so I do think they warned him about it.

Also something I noticed, Cody is wearing a jacket here when it's obviously hot in Zimbabwe while he wore tshirts in freezing cold Iceland lol
I thought the same exact thing it's in the 90s in Harare and all of the racers seem to be covered up. I wonder if it is a cultural thing???

I thought so at first, but wouldn't they have to cover up their entire body, not just their upper portion, then? A genuine question, because they all seem to be wearing shorts, but I did notice that they are wearing sweaters or long sleeves.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 06:05:55 PM
I'm interested in the sun angles details you guys are talking about.

So, I saw the name on the building in one photo, TOPICS.  Googled it on maps.  this link may or may not work, but you could do the same.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/TOPICS/@-17.8298856,31.0497984,154m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!2m7!3m6!1sTOPICS!2sHarare,+Zimbabwe!3s0x1931a4ee1bdddb35:0xa5143b9be5134f2f!4m2!1d31.03351!2d-17.8251657

Someone mentioned 1st street, so I went to that one, and there two trees there that could easily be the one Phil's standing under. 

All that basically does if give directional location for those who are inclined to further analyze sun and shadow.  I think, from the tall white building, Phil was under the tree at Econet House, mostly guessing, but also photos.

I have no idea if any of this will help, but it was cool looking around.  No street view there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Leilani on October 16, 2017, 06:07:48 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.

I'm pretty sure production would have given them the heads up.  Last thing production wants to do is cause friction with the local authorities.  Plus the teams are an asset, so it would make sense that production would take the necessary steps to protect their assets.  Imagine th PR nightmare if a team ran afoul of local authorities and ended up in the glue because production didn't tell them that it was illegal to wear camo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 16, 2017, 06:11:04 PM
Lots of info posted on this thread comes from Twitter accts if anyone wants to do some detective work of their own instead of waiting for "I-know-something-you-don't-knoooooow" claims. Dunno if I can post the Twitter acct names here or not so I'll err on the side of caution regarding privacy and not post them.

. Just keep in mind that the sources there sometimes post conflicting info or make assumptions that are not confirmed or are still waiting for some kind of confirmation, so take everything with a grain of salt! Happy hunting!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 06:24:58 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.

I'm pretty sure production would have given them the heads up.  Last thing production wants to do is cause friction with the local authorities.  Plus the teams are an asset, so it would make sense that production would take the necessary steps to protect their assets.  Imagine th PR nightmare if a team ran afoul of local authorities and ended up in the glue because production didn't tell them that it was illegal to wear camo.

There are also roadblocks that check tourists' IDs. Notice, Cody wasn't wearing his camo bball cap.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 06:27:51 PM


Or it's finding the original source and crediting the proper person. Please, we've been over this way too many times.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 06:28:26 PM
The video was uploaded by Mob Graphix who is also the one who posted the pics of lifeguards and skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 16, 2017, 06:33:59 PM


this isn't hunting... this is just finding someone else's work.

No idea what you mean by that. We're all hunting for clues about TAR activities of all kinds. Clues include things we find on our own and things others find and we pass along. If you know something that hasn't been posted yet, please share/pass the info on to the rest of us and credit the source  (within privacy limitations). Thanks. Otherwise, keep hunting with the rest of us and good luck to all!

OFF TOPIC!! THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCUSSION OF SPOILERS ONLY PLEASE!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 16, 2017, 06:41:44 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.

I'm pretty sure production would have given them the heads up.  Last thing production wants to do is cause friction with the local authorities.  Plus the teams are an asset, so it would make sense that production would take the necessary steps to protect their assets.  Imagine th PR nightmare if a team ran afoul of local authorities and ended up in the glue because production didn't tell them that it was illegal to wear camo.
Completely agree. Can't imagine production not making sure all local rules are told to, and understood by, all members of all teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 16, 2017, 06:46:58 PM
I've found a video--here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7MHUcjDt8A)--from Harare Gardens which seems to match the stage video; the pavement matches and the bamboo (I think it's bamboo) is also there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 06:49:02 PM
I'm just amused that we will see CODY having to sing and dance on stage  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 06:50:35 PM
Ok I’m more convinced now.

Solar noon is at 11:41 am there. Sunset at 5:26 pm.
We don’t know time on Jody pic.
Pic of skiers/lifeguards was af about 1:30pm there time.

Much more noticeable sun and less shade on Jody pic. The time of the lifeguards pic means the sun would’ve shifted about 30 to 40 degrees and that’s why we see so much more shade.

Don't know your meteorological abilities, but I hope they're right!!

My best guess is Jody got there an hour or more before the skiers and lifeguards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 16, 2017, 06:51:11 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.

I'm pretty sure production would have given them the heads up.  Last thing production wants to do is cause friction with the local authorities.  Plus the teams are an asset, so it would make sense that production would take the necessary steps to protect their assets.  Imagine th PR nightmare if a team ran afoul of local authorities and ended up in the glue because production didn't tell them that it was illegal to wear camo.
Completely agree. Can't imagine production not making sure all local rules are told to, and understood by, all members of all teams.
Makes sense why Cody wasn’t wearing his camo hat today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 06:53:49 PM
That Harare Gardens makes sense, it's very close to the mat/Phil/racers photos.  3-4 blocks south, plus through the gardens, would make a nice little race to the end.

It looks like the stage might be at the North-Westish corner of the gardens.  So, the racers would run south and slightly east.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
You act like analyzing body language isn't a thing. There are people who make a living off it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 07:01:04 PM
I'm just amused that we will see CODY having to sing and dance on stage  :funny:
Not necessarily.
If it's a detour they didn't choose, we won't.

You act like analyzing body language isn't a thing. There are people who make a living off it.
We're just saying a single photo is not enough to make accurate assumptions.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 07:03:06 PM
I've found a video--here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7MHUcjDt8A)--from Harare Gardens which seems to match the stage video; the pavement matches and the bamboo (I think it's bamboo) is also there.

That's just a few blocks away from the Pitstop, too. There are several places for the other side of the Detour there or nearby - like the National Art Gallery.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 07:06:14 PM
You act like analyzing body language isn't a thing. There are people who make a living off it.

For normal people yes but Cody isn't normal. He didn't even blink when he won $25000

There are plenty of times he smiled or laughed. I think he was shocked about AFP. Besides, he was more excited to see Jess.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 07:13:08 PM

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That's just a few blocks away from the Pitstop, too. There are several places for the other side of the Detour there or nearby - like the National Art Gallery.

Yes, as I said just above, about a 7-8 city block run to the end if I'm right about the stage location.  Many things in that park as well, an unusual sculpture garden which would have been a great place for a clue "find the wooden whatever, etc."  There is also a pool, but no one looks wet, and that would be an odd task in African anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 16, 2017, 07:17:14 PM
Also everyone completely forgot about the other 3 teams as Jody, Lifeguards and skiers are the only ones were talking about. How did everyone else place 😛
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 07:22:43 PM
We know they are safe so  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 07:25:13 PM
We know they are safe so  :groan:

How do we know that?  We don't even know who one of the teams are or where Skii girls, Lifeguards or Jody placed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 07:26:28 PM
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Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 16, 2017, 07:30:36 PM
Jody
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 07:32:44 PM
We know they are safe so  :groan:
No, WE don't know who is safe yet.
You are welcome to believe whatever you want, but so far there has been no proof to indicate anybody besides the lifeguards not being last.
Jody may be safe if the shadow discussion is accurate, but all the others - NOT known.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 16, 2017, 07:35:01 PM
By evidence posted, the safest team is the lifeguards.  From the positioning of the buildings around the pitstop, I now firmly believe that the Jody pic was in the afternoon, while the other pics were around noontime.

We still have no sightings of the twins or the debaters, or any 6th or 7th team that might have made this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 07:38:56 PM
Bragging/boasting about info  has not been shared is unacceptable. DO not do it again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Bonnie on October 16, 2017, 07:46:25 PM
There is either very young people posting here or just very opinionated. For one, I never referenced Cody’s lack of smile. I know that’s a common disposition.  I was commenting on combination of both of them, their posture, “expression” and physical body posture as compared to lifeguards and skiers who seemed lighter and less frustrated looking. If Jody came in before them, then my GUESS was wrong. But you just make people not want to even comment cause you know so much more.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 07:48:44 PM
By evidence posted, the safest team is the lifeguards.  From the positioning of the buildings around the pitstop, I now firmly believe that the Jody pic was in the afternoon, while the other pics were around noontime.

We still have no sightings of the twins or the debaters, or any 6th or 7th team that might have made this leg.

evidence posted shows that the lifeguards and skiers were last to the pitstop. why else would the camera crew pack up after they were done at the mat?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 16, 2017, 07:51:59 PM
The lifeguards could have a plenalty which could be a reason they are on the matt with the Skiers. Just a thought.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 16, 2017, 07:53:26 PM
Ive been reading this forum for years, always impressed with the detective abilities and how information is found. Ive also always been impressed on how everyone works together to try and figure things out.  I have to say Im a bit perplexed at this sudden secrecy and need to be so cryptic.

This has always been collaborative. No one "hid" anything or needed to withhold info. It was a group of people working together. What is the sudden need for secrecy. Not just secrecy, but the need to tell people you know something that others don't? Seems off to me and not what , I thought, this board was about.

Anyway, its the first time that I was prompted to post. But if I dont post again, thank you all for years of fun following your investigative work.  Its always made TAR that much more fun for me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 08:02:30 PM
Ive been reading this forum for years, always impressed with the detective abilities and how information is found. Ive also always been impressed on how everyone works together to try and figure things out.  I have to say Im a bit perplexed at this sudden secrecy and need to be so cryptic.

This has always been collaborative. No one "hid" anything or needed to withhold info. It was a group of people working together. What is the sudden need for secrecy. Not just secrecy, but the need to tell people you know something that others don't? Seems off to me and not what , I thought, this board was about.

Anyway, its the first time that I was prompted to post. But if I dont post again, thank you all for years of fun following your investigative work.  Its always made TAR that much more fun for me.

Welcome to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 08:19:29 PM
By evidence posted, the safest team is the lifeguards.  From the positioning of the buildings around the pitstop, I now firmly believe that the Jody pic was in the afternoon, while the other pics were around noontime.

We still have no sightings of the twins or the debaters, or any 6th or 7th team that might have made this leg.

evidence posted shows that the lifeguards and skiers were last to the pitstop. why else would the camera crew pack up after they were done at the mat?
That's not evident. The person reported that he saw those 2 teams, came back later, and everything was packed up. Doesn't tell us whether a team or more checked in during the time he wasnt there.

We know they are safe so  :groan:
No, WE don't know who is safe yet.
You are welcome to believe whatever you want, but so far there has been no proof to indicate anybody besides the lifeguards not being last.
Jody may be safe if the shadow discussion is accurate, but all the others - NOT known.

You may not know. But we do.
I think it's the opposite way around, dan. :tup: You may know, we don't.
Or you just relate to a different 'we' that the entire of RFF does.
Feel free to disclose whatever you wish, but do not make assumptions based on what WE do not know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: couchracer on October 16, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
There is a lot more sun glare (like evening or early morning) in the Jody picture, Less glare in the skiiers/ lifeguards pic, like closer to noon, but I have been wrong before and shall be again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 16, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
Just a thought. Maybe the thing that cannot be disclosed now is the twist Phil mentioned at the start. Something about fear of heights will cause a team not to be able to reach the finish line! Anxious to see what is “breaking news” that can only be disclosed tomorrow morning!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 08:32:31 PM
Just like it was known there were only 8 teams in Morocco, even though there were 9?

Just like it was known Jody won the Express Pass on Leg 1, despite no known evidence?

Just like it’s been known that Jody has been at the front of the pack all season, despite little to no concrete evidence showing this?

I’m sorry, but I’m gonna be skeptical of stated “info” if it’s not backed up with evidence

So far, the unsupported “facts,” have had a poor track record of actually being accurate

But sure, we’re in the dark, and only a select few have supreme knowledge of what’s going on  :res:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: zuzuspetals on October 16, 2017, 08:32:54 PM
So we have a pic of the lifeguards (only) with Phil.  We also have a pic of the lifeguards and the skiers with Phil, with the lifeguards eating ice cream.  Has Phil ever invited a checked-in team to stand with the next team that arrives, when there were still teams to arrive ?

Would the lifeguards finish their mat interview and then go off for ice cream or would the ice cream be brought to them while still on the mat, and the next team (skiers) arrive on the mat ?  Or did the skiers mention to Phil how close they are (or working) with the lifeguards and Phil then invited the lifeguards (standing nearby) to join the skiers on the mat ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 16, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
Well when a team has a penalty (for either missing a clue or not finishing a task) they have to stick around and wait until the time elapses for them to check in..

NOt saying that happened but that is a reason for teams to stick around at the pitstop for a while.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 08:38:58 PM
I'm thinking the ice cream is given to the teams at the pit stop for them to enjoy while interviewing at the mat

Teams have checked in while another team was standing on the mat in the past
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 08:41:42 PM
Just like it was known Jody won the Express Pass on Leg 1, despite it not featuring the last two seasons?
The last two seasons featured an Express Pass.

So we have a pic of the lifeguards (only) with Phil.  We also have a pic of the lifeguards and the skiers with Phil, with the lifeguards eating ice cream.  Has Phil ever invited a checked-in team to stand with the next team that arrives, when there were still teams to arrive ?

Would the lifeguards finish their mat interview and then go off for ice cream or would the ice cream be brought to them while still on the mat, and the next team (skiers) arrive on the mat ?  Or did the skiers mention to Phil how close they are (or working) with the lifeguards and Phil then invited the lifeguards (standing nearby) to join the skiers on the mat ?
The lifeguards were probably still chatting with Phil when the skiers arrived. Teams are not instructed to leave the mat and then come back. Not once that I remember.
The ice cream was probably just offered to teams after checking in.

Pure spec, but I am inclined to think the skiers were not last. Unless we have a very tight footrace, the last team is usually allowed to check in alone.

Well when a team has a penalty (for either missing a clue or not finishing a task) they have to stick around and wait until the time elapses for them to check in..

NOt saying that happened but that is a reason for teams to stick around at the pitstop for a while.
Teams do not stand at the mat with Phil while waiting out penalties, though.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 08:44:13 PM
There is a lot more sun glare (like evening or early morning) in the Jody picture, Less glare in the skiiers/ lifeguards pic, like closer to noon, but I have been wrong before and shall be again.

It could be a bad picture, but I thought it looked more like atmospheric haze from severe heat. For sure the shadow is longer - from the building and little or no dappled shade from leaves. It could still mean before or after. UGH.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 16, 2017, 08:47:20 PM
Ive been reading this forum for years, always impressed with the detective abilities and how information is found. Ive also always been impressed on how everyone works together to try and figure things out.  I have to say Im a bit perplexed at this sudden secrecy and need to be so cryptic.

This has always been collaborative. No one "hid" anything or needed to withhold info. It was a group of people working together. What is the sudden need for secrecy. Not just secrecy, but the need to tell people you know something that others don't? Seems off to me and not what , I thought, this board was about.

Anyway, its the first time that I was prompted to post. But if I dont post again, thank you all for years of fun following your investigative work.  Its always made TAR that much more fun for me.
 
 
I too have been here & reading since 2009 & was always able to enjoy all your hard word work and looked forward to the airing of the show. Never once have I posted so today is my first and most likely my last. This year is so different. Big Brother fans are only concerned with Jody and are very pushy in case you have not noticed. Even the detectives on the board this season seem to enjoy in the "I know something you don't know". Oh well. Thanks for all the years past & maybe next season it will get back to normal.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 16, 2017, 08:57:08 PM
Just like it was known Jody won the Express Pass on Leg 1, despite it not featuring the last two seasons?
The last two seasons featured an Express Pass.

Sorry, was typing fast

They weren’t featured in the typical leg 1 prize way, just simplified my original post
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 16, 2017, 09:03:18 PM
Looking at the Harare photo background details and comparing to a map... the Topics store is NNW of the mat and the Batanai Gardens building is South of Phil.

This supports that Phil would be standing on First St., facing North at the mat and the racers facing south.  The sun only rises and sets in one direction.  More shade would then be earlier in the day.

Anyway, that's my speculation and method of logic. 

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 09:04:46 PM
Looking at the Harare photo background details and comparing to a map... the Topics store is NNW of the mat and the Batanai Gardens building is South of Phil.

This supports that Phil would be standing on First St., facing North at the mat and the racers facing south.  The sun only rises and sets in one direction.  More shade would then be earlier in the day.

Anyway, that's my speculation and method of logic.

Welcome to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 16, 2017, 09:07:23 PM
the sun and shadow theory isn't reliable at all especially with things such as clouds in the sky
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 09:24:06 PM
Looking at the Harare photo background details and comparing to a map... the Topics store is NNW of the mat and the Batanai Gardens building is South of Phil.

This supports that Phil would be standing on First St., facing North at the mat and the racers facing south.  The sun only rises and sets in one direction.  More shade would then be earlier in the day.

Anyway, that's my speculation and method of logic.

I posted the google earth map earlier.  I think Phil had his back to Econet House, so he would be facing slightly Northwest, we see the street in front of him.  The park is about 3-4 blocks northwest of Econet House, and I think the bandstand thing is in the Northwest corner of that park.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/TOPICS/@-17.8303927,31.0496796,306m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!2m7!3m6!1sTOPICS!2sHarare,+Zimbabwe!3s0x1931a4ee1bdddb35:0xa5143b9be5134f2f!4m2!1d31.03351!2d-17.8251657

eta, checked another photo and in that one he does seem to be facing north, in the shadow of the building to his right (east)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 16, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
Ive been reading this forum for years, always impressed with the detective abilities and how information is found. Ive also always been impressed on how everyone works together to try and figure things out.  I have to say Im a bit perplexed at this sudden secrecy and need to be so cryptic.

This has always been collaborative. No one "hid" anything or needed to withhold info. It was a group of people working together. What is the sudden need for secrecy. Not just secrecy, but the need to tell people you know something that others don't? Seems off to me and not what , I thought, this board was about.

Anyway, its the first time that I was prompted to post. But if I dont post again, thank you all for years of fun following your investigative work.  Its always made TAR that much more fun for me.
 
 
I too have been here & reading since 2009 & was always able to enjoy all your hard word work and looked forward to the airing of the show. Never once have I posted so today is my first and most likely my last. This year is so different. Big Brother fans are only concerned with Jody and are very pushy in case you have not noticed. Even the detectives on the board this season seem to enjoy in the "I know something you don't know". Oh well. Thanks for all the years past & maybe next season it will get back to normal.

I'm willing to cut Dan a little slack. There have been occasions in the past where information has been held back for a day or two. I've done it. Usually it involved information about the next leg or from a sensitive source. I just kept my mouth shut until the time was right or maybe just gave a very vague hint. I didn't go to the "I've got a big secret" route but different styles for different people. I can wait until tomorrow. I am a bit surprised as so far as I haven't seen this level of restraint from the Jody fans.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 16, 2017, 09:38:55 PM
Not sure if this is anything worth mentioning, so please delete if it doesn't belong.
That said, one of the frequent Twitter sources is back online so maybe there will be some confirmed news soon.  Not trying to tease anyone just trying to provide some info that better detective than I might be able to use!

Also, what exactly IS the policy about giving out Twitter handles that people looking for info may want to follow? Thanks! Sorry for being such a newbie pain!!!!

I've always just copied and pasted any relevant tweets into the Live Sightings thread (or here). Be sure to include their twitter ID and the date and time it was posted. Don't feel bad about asking questions. We have our own little culture and ways of doing things. It's appreciated that you want to do things right. I still make mistakes about posting at times, so don't feel too bad about mistakes. Oh, Facebook sightings should probably be sent to Georgiapeach first. Rules are a little different for Facebook.

The only thing that has given me some concern this season is that any tweet that gets posted soon gets 10 or more tweets to the person demanding information about Jody and I expect that has turned off some witnesses. Really, if 1 or 2 people have asked, then there's no need for others to do so.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 16, 2017, 09:40:01 PM
Looking at the Harare photo background details and comparing to a map... the Topics store is NNW of the mat and the Batanai Gardens building is South of Phil.

This supports that Phil would be standing on First St., facing North at the mat and the racers facing south.  The sun only rises and sets in one direction.  More shade would then be earlier in the day.

Anyway, that's my speculation and method of logic.

I posted the google earth map earlier.  I think Phil had his back to Econet House, so he would be facing slightly Northwest, we see the street in front of him.  The park is about 3-4 blocks northwest of Econet House, and I think the bandstand thing is in the Northwest corner of that park.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/TOPICS/@-17.8303927,31.0496796,306m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!2m7!3m6!1sTOPICS!2sHarare,+Zimbabwe!3s0x1931a4ee1bdddb35:0xa5143b9be5134f2f!4m2!1d31.03351!2d-17.8251657

eta, checked another photo and in that one he does seem to be facing north, in the shadow of the building to his right (east)

Thanks for thinking of the map - I used a car ride map to help locate the stores in the photos.  First street is not truly set as north - south. 


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 09:43:40 PM
I give the Jody team props for  finding and tweeting many of the spoilers we've had this season, but they almost never credit the source of the original photo or it's the tweet of a friend who has a friend.  It's great that they are finding so much, but I do wish they would credit the person.

Yeah, I saw that first street is slightly North West, which is why I said "ish" in the original post.  I give up at sun paths though!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 16, 2017, 09:47:13 PM
Ive been reading this forum for years, always impressed with the detective abilities and how information is found. Ive also always been impressed on how everyone works together to try and figure things out.  I have to say Im a bit perplexed at this sudden secrecy and need to be so cryptic.

This has always been collaborative. No one "hid" anything or needed to withhold info. It was a group of people working together. What is the sudden need for secrecy. Not just secrecy, but the need to tell people you know something that others don't? Seems off to me and not what , I thought, this board was about.

Anyway, its the first time that I was prompted to post. But if I dont post again, thank you all for years of fun following your investigative work.  Its always made TAR that much more fun for me.
 
 
I too have been here & reading since 2009 & was always able to enjoy all your hard word work and looked forward to the airing of the show. Never once have I posted so today is my first and most likely my last. This year is so different. Big Brother fans are only concerned with Jody and are very pushy in case you have not noticed. Even the detectives on the board this season seem to enjoy in the "I know something you don't know". Oh well. Thanks for all the years past & maybe next season it will get back to normal.

I'm willing to cut Dan a little slack. There have been occasions in the past where information has been held back for a day or two. I've done it. Usually it involved information about the next leg or from a sensitive source. I just kept my mouth shut until the time was right or maybe just gave a very vague hint. I didn't go to the "I've got a big secret" route but different styles for different people. I can wait until tomorrow. I am a bit surprised as so far as I haven't seen this level of restraint from the Jody fans.

Jumping into this because I'm probably one of the referred "Even the detectives on the board this season seem to enjoy in the "I know something you don't know"", as I was the one who the previous day knew that teams were going to race on Saint Tropez. As Plaidmoon explained, it was one of those ocasions where info must be kept in the dark due to involve production crew - what is a strict policy on the forum as it happened before that crew had lost their jobs for revealing info about the race not matter if it was on purpose or not - and all I could do was giving a hint about the posibility of the teams going to that area. So in no way I was playing that card. In fact, if Dan source is somehow related to production I'm the first one supporting the decision of not posting anything about it until reaching the proper time to do it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 16, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
If this "intel" has anything to do with the next destination (just my guess), yes, don't want to know until then. Would rather not risk another cool undervisited place being subsitituted with the umpteenth visit to China :lol:

Another reason to not to release destinations early: I did that once many seasons back a couple of days ahead of time and heard later that the people hired locally were interrogated and had to sign additional nondisclosure forms. I hope none of them got fired. I'd be sick about that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 16, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
Someone here (Walkingpneumonia?) has some good software that can look at the location, the sun angles and the shadows and determine when a picture has been taken in a 10-15 minute window. I imagine he's been busy but hopefully he can analyze some of these pictures eventually. It really clears up a lot of mysteries.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
don't know anything about the next leg yet... but I was looking at flights out of johannesbirg tomorrow and only 3 possible locations that seem to make sense...

Dubai at 1030
hong kong at 1230
singapore at 145

I think Hong Kong or Singapore may be more likely
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 16, 2017, 09:59:41 PM
The only thing that has given me some concern this season is that any tweet that gets posted soon gets 10 or more tweets to the person demanding information about Jody and I expect that has turned off some witnesses. Really, if 1 or 2 people have asked, then there's no need for others to do so.
This is my concern. So if I find news on Twitter, how do I report it AND give credit without risking the source getting swamped with follow up questions? Help?!?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
I certainly understand and applaud restraint if it would get someone in trouble, production or local.

If it's about something that many people could easily know though?  Like who was racing, a task, or who won or was eliminated?  Then I don't understand.  There are too many witnesses at the mat and at many tasks, the information could come from anyone, not just the 'source.'

"I was told by someone I trust that the Humbugs were first" or "Happenstanders were eliminated."  Lots of witnesses at many tasks, in airports, and at the finish line of many legs, including this one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 16, 2017, 10:01:35 PM
I completely understand needing to keep information quiet. I actually would expect it. It might just be my misperceptions but it was just starting to feel like a competition about who knows more than another. Of course information must be kept Under wraps at time , but it just felt a bit different than previous years. 

Investigate on detectives, I look forward to more discoveries.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 16, 2017, 10:02:33 PM
Thank you dan! :)
I appreciate that you shared this.
Like the couple of new people posted, RFF prides itself on teamwork and free flow of information, unless necessary to be withheld.

The flights are definitely interesting, but bear in mind that there needs to be enough time for them to have a pit stop, and if filming finished near sunset, I don't think teams would be able to make those connections. Are there even suitable flights from Harare to Johannesburg to catch those flights?

And we can't rule out that another airport other than Johannesburg could be chosen as a connection (i.e. no Jburg at all or even Harambe > Jburg > 2nd connection > Leg destination)


EDIT: I'm glad you're here, itsjustme11 :waves: Join in on the discussion more often!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2017, 10:05:34 PM
I can confirm that the detectives do withhold information at times. It's mainly for safety reasons. We don't want to cost someone their job or , in some cases, the source asks us to not share the info.

It all depends but we want to make sure we aren't jeopardizing anyone's life or reputation with any info we put out so we have to be careful with what gets shared.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 16, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
Ive been reading this forum for years, always impressed with the detective abilities and how information is found. Ive also always been impressed on how everyone works together to try and figure things out.  I have to say Im a bit perplexed at this sudden secrecy and need to be so cryptic.

This has always been collaborative. No one "hid" anything or needed to withhold info. It was a group of people working together. What is the sudden need for secrecy. Not just secrecy, but the need to tell people you know something that others don't? Seems off to me and not what , I thought, this board was about.

Anyway, its the first time that I was prompted to post. But if I dont post again, thank you all for years of fun following your investigative work.  Its always made TAR that much more fun for me.

I am new this season...although I've been an amazing race fan for years. I'm also disappointed by how many people are acting...or reacting to posts on here.

It's to the point that some people seem to not care for Team Jody at all...and react as though all they want to do is disprove any posting that references this team. Other people are so Pro Team Jody that they get upset with anything that might contradict what they have posted.

And then you have the majority of us...people that are just fans...trying to have fun..look for clues and trying to work with each other to make educated, estimated, deductions on what's happening in the race.

The problem is...that this negativity is carrying over and making it hard for anyone to post a question...a clue...an opion..an educated guess..without major fallout in return. Or, having to sift through the back and forth, to try and figure out what's going on. Thats not fun for anyone and I see a lot of it happening.

Can we all remember, that regardless of who our favorite team is ( or our least favorite team ) that this forum about all teams in the race. The best way for us to get good, conclusive information about how EACH OF OUR favorite teams is doing in the race, is to piece the clues together as we get them and by everyone being inclusive with the clues we find.

And...try to show some patience for some of the newer, greener fans. I've seen people just making an innocent comment about their favorite team..or just general game chat, and suddenly getting sarcastic, undeserving comments back.

If we put our heads together, we can learn a lot! Ive been AMAZED by the insight Peach & the other unbiased veteran detectives have been able to glean from something that at first seemed like an insigificant clue. Their years of experience in chasing the Amazing Race cant be duplicated.

If you have clues or sources, but don't share the details...well..the rest of us can't take that as 100% fact/proof of something..even if we might want to.  Share the details, so we can all be excited together.  :)  let's work together, not assume facts not in evidence, be respectful of each other's opinions ( even when they differ from our opinion ) to try and get more out of each and every clue we get.

Perfect example today of the pictures and using the theory of analyzing sunlight/lighting/shadows, etc, to help try & establish times each team at the mat. Some people did great...unbiased research about sourounding businesses, direction they faced, etc try and help so we could use this info,  compare against the direction their shadows fell, etc...and it ended up getting buried in the back and forth banter. Too bad we couldn't have worked together more to see if we could have nailed this down better.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 16, 2017, 10:07:17 PM
Someone here (Walkingpneumonia?) has some good software that can look at the location, the sun angles and the shadows and determine when a picture has been taken in a 10-15 minute window. I imagine he's been busy but hopefully he can analyze some of these pictures eventually. It really clears up a lot of mysteries.

I believe that in the past it was Chateau who did that; but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 16, 2017, 10:12:15 PM
Thank you dan! :)
I appreciate that you shared this.
Like the couple of new people posted, RFF prides itself on teamwork and free flow of information, unless necessary to be withheld.

The flights are definitely interesting, but bear in mind that there needs to be enough time for them to have a pit stop, and if filming finished near sunset, I don't think teams would be able to make those connections. Are there even suitable flights from Harare to Johannesburg to catch those flights?

And we can't rule out that another airport other than Johannesburg could be chosen as a connection (i.e. no Jburg at all or even Harambe > Jburg > 2nd connection > Leg destination)


EDIT: I'm glad you're here, itsjustme11 :waves: Join in on the discussion more often!

they have flights from Harare to Johannesburg this morning, and would be there well in time for any of those flights
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 16, 2017, 10:15:03 PM
The only thing that has given me some concern this season is that any tweet that gets posted soon gets 10 or more tweets to the person demanding information about Jody and I expect that has turned off some witnesses. Really, if 1 or 2 people have asked, then there's no need for others to do so.
This is my concern. So if I find news on Twitter, how do I report it AND give credit without risking the source getting swamped with follow up questions? Help?!?

Our main guideline in years past is that if you see another RFF detective on duty, to let them handle it. But this poses new challenges this year, what with new members and all the Jody fans out there. This is also the underlying problem in the "Us" vs "Them" mentality or who got what info first. There is no point in anyone asking a source  for info even a second time let alone 8 or 12 times like I've seen.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 16, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
Anyway. I can’t wait to find out the significance of the ice cream LOL I have never seen that st a pit stop before. Which season did they get the coconuts?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 10:15:36 PM


No, we know the skiers got there around 130pm. So the rest of your theory is disproven based on that fact

If you are going to make statements like this, You MUST include why/how you know. Unsupported statements don't fly well here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2017, 10:20:51 PM
Anyway. I can’t wait to find out the significance of the ice cream LOL I have never seen that st a pit stop before. Which season did they get the coconuts?

18, which begs the question, could the ice cream be from the greeter? :lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/xZlXGjx.png)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
This picture was posted 4 hours ago when they were taking things down. You can see the shade matches when the pictures of the lifeguards and skiers were taken. The mat and phil have both left. There is also some dude selling ice cream.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaUTPDclqdd/?taken-by=exploreharare

You cannot say that.

Time posted has ZERO to do with time TAKEN.

You do not know that they are taking down, they could be setting up.

Phil could not have arrived yet VS having left.

Unless the owner of the photo has given the explanation, then this is pure SPEC and MUST be expressesd as such.

ALL OF YOU MUST STOP STATING UNKNOWN INFO AS FACT WITHOUT PROOF>

RFF DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!
  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 10:36:15 PM
Lots of people fell for the 2015 photo, not just Jody fans. Don't be rude.  :groan:

I kept myself in check, but for a while today, I assumed you were purposefully trolling us with those photos :(

I saw several versions of that photo before I found the original post. The background sign was purposely covered up, one with something that purposely flamed us. The thing is by us ALL not working together, a disservice is being done especially to the Jody fans. They could have checked here with some of the more seasoned detectives. It's a shame.

I'm the one that posted the "phil" picture on here, that was later discovered to be from a prior season. I was offline as a bad storm hit my area, knocking out our power, internet, etc after I posted it. I wasnt hiding. Sorry if this post, then lead into mistrust of some posters. That was never my intention! I was just trying to help. :(

I too saw several people had posted the picture...& I think it was an honest mistake on everyone's part. I can't speak to the other pictures that had been edited. I did see those in passing, wasn't sure what that was about or meant, so purposely posted a link here to a post that had an unedited photo.

I wasnt trolling. As a newer member to the forum (as I see many of us are) we are learning as we go. I follow several people on Twitter,  Not just Jody fans, but amazing race fans, as thats what I am first and foreemost. My goal is to look for clues on any teams. I've found most of the Jody fans to be the same and post sightings and updates for other teams as well.

I hope that helps put mind's at ease. I felt horrible when I saw the follow up posts and comments of mistrust & wanted to try and clear it up!

Thanks


Thanks Kitty! No worries, we all have made mistakes, I know I have and do!!! Very much appreciate your clearing it up! 

:ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 16, 2017, 10:44:43 PM
Someone here (Walkingpneumonia?) has some good software that can look at the location, the sun angles and the shadows and determine when a picture has been taken in a 10-15 minute window. I imagine he's been busy but hopefully he can analyze some of these pictures eventually. It really clears up a lot of mysteries.

This is so neat! Regardless of what it might help to prove in terms of when each team may have arrived, i think this kind of stuff is so interesting and is hard to argue against. LOL Hopefully...whomever has this know-how can check out the pictures and put their knowledge to work.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 16, 2017, 10:50:22 PM
Looking at the Harare photo background details and comparing to a map... the Topics store is NNW of the mat and the Batanai Gardens building is South of Phil.

This supports that Phil would be standing on First St., facing North at the mat and the racers facing south.  The sun only rises and sets in one direction.  More shade would then be earlier in the day.

Anyway, that's my speculation and method of logic.

I posted the google earth map earlier.  I think Phil had his back to Econet House, so he would be facing slightly Northwest, we see the street in front of him.  The park is about 3-4 blocks northwest of Econet House, and I think the bandstand thing is in the Northwest corner of that park.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/TOPICS/@-17.8303927,31.0496796,306m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!2m7!3m6!1sTOPICS!2sHarare,+Zimbabwe!3s0x1931a4ee1bdddb35:0xa5143b9be5134f2f!4m2!1d31.03351!2d-17.8251657

eta, checked another photo and in that one he does seem to be facing north, in the shadow of the building to his right (east)

Great job by both of you, taking the time to research this in more detail!  Hopefully others with the know-how can use this to give us a better time estimate, if we don't end up hearing back with times from the original photo takers. Kudos!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 16, 2017, 11:03:42 PM
In the area of pure speculation, do we really think TAR would go all the way to southern Africa and keep them only in an area that looks like any big city anywhere in the world?  I feel like, and hope, we've missed something.  Singing in a lovely city park and a pit stop downtown across from offices and a clothing store? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 16, 2017, 11:08:52 PM
I give the Jody team props for  finding and tweeting many of the spoilers we've had this season, but they almost never credit the source of the original photo or it's the tweet of a friend who has a friend.  It's great that they are finding so much, but I do wish they would credit the person.

Yeah, I saw that first street is slightly North West, which is why I said "ish" in the original post.  I give up at sun paths though!

I'm wondering if this is because of what someone was just mentioning about sources getting bombarded with well-wishing, good intended fans..inundating them with back to back questions...until they seem to go into hibernation until the coast is clear? We've all seen this while we are out being detectives...and then let out a deep sigh. They could be trying to prevent this by instead working with them 1 on 1? Perhaps?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 16, 2017, 11:10:05 PM
In the area of pure speculation, do we really think TAR would go all the way to southern Africa and keep them only in an area that looks like any big city anywhere in the world?  I feel like, and hope, we've missed something.  Singing in a lovely city park and a pit stop downtown across from offices and a clothing store?

Today was spent in and around the town center, so I'm speculating that teams will be going somewhere scenic tomorrow to do some sort of adrenaline-inducing task(s).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 16, 2017, 11:38:02 PM
Just hope Jody wasn't wearing their camo stuff. As somebody pointed out yesterday, it's actually illegal there.

I'm pretty sure production would have given them the heads up.  Last thing production wants to do is cause friction with the local authorities.  Plus the teams are an asset, so it would make sense that production would take the necessary steps to protect their assets.  Imagine th PR nightmare if a team ran afoul of local authorities and ended up in the glue because production didn't tell them that it was illegal to wear camo.
Completely agree. Can't imagine production not making sure all local rules are told to, and understood by, all members of all teams.

I was relieved to see that they weren't wearing camo as well, after someone discovered this was against the law here! I would never have thought this might be a law I any if the countries the team visited. I'm sure it made their tasks harder, if they are used to wearing baseball hats to block the sun and couldn't today.  This is the only team we've seen wearing anything with camo in it this season, isn't It?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2017, 11:43:57 PM
Ive been reading this forum for years, always impressed with the detective abilities and how information is found. Ive also always been impressed on how everyone works together to try and figure things out.  I have to say Im a bit perplexed at this sudden secrecy and need to be so cryptic.

This has always been collaborative. No one "hid" anything or needed to withhold info. It was a group of people working together. What is the sudden need for secrecy. Not just secrecy, but the need to tell people you know something that others don't? Seems off to me and not what , I thought, this board was about.

Anyway, its the first time that I was prompted to post. But if I dont post again, thank you all for years of fun following your investigative work.  Its always made TAR that much more fun for me.

I am new this season...although I've been an amazing race fan for years. I'm also disappointed by how many people are acting...or reacting to posts on here.

It's to the point that some people seem to not care for Team Jody at all...and react as though all they want to do is disprove any posting that references this team. Other people are so Pro Team Jody that they get upset with anything that might contradict what they have posted.

And then you have the majority of us...people that are just fans...trying to have fun..look for clues and trying to work with each other to make educated, estimated, deductions on what's happening in the race.

The problem is...that this negativity is carrying over and making it hard for anyone to post a question...a clue...an opion..an educated guess..without major fallout in return. Or, having to sift through the back and forth, to try and figure out what's going on. Thats not fun for anyone and I see a lot of it happening.

Can we all remember, that regardless of who our favorite team is ( or our least favorite team ) that this forum about all teams in the race. The best way for us to get good, conclusive information about how EACH OF OUR favorite teams is doing in the race, is to piece the clues together as we get them and by everyone being inclusive with the clues we find.

And...try to show some patience for some of the newer, greener fans. I've seen people just making an innocent comment about their favorite team..or just general game chat, and suddenly getting sarcastic, undeserving comments back.

If we put our heads together, we can learn a lot! Ive been AMAZED by the insight Peach & the other unbiased veteran detectives have been able to glean from something that at first seemed like an insigificant clue. Their years of experience in chasing the Amazing Race cant be duplicated.

If you have clues or sources, but don't share the details...well..the rest of us can't take that as 100% fact/proof of something..even if we might want to.  Share the details, so we can all be excited together.  :)  let's work together, not assume facts not in evidence, be respectful of each other's opinions ( even when they differ from our opinion ) to try and get more out of each and every clue we get.

Perfect example today of the pictures and using the theory of analyzing sunlight/lighting/shadows, etc, to help try & establish times each team at the mat. Some people did great...unbiased research about sourounding businesses, direction they faced, etc try and help so we could use this info,  compare against the direction their shadows fell, etc...and it ended up getting buried in the back and forth banter. Too bad we couldn't have worked together more to see if we could have nailed this down better.



Thanks Kitty. Agree with you 100%. Appreciate your thoughtful comments.



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 16, 2017, 11:49:37 PM
I'm just amused that we will see CODY having to sing and dance on stage  :funny:

Agreed...lol. if they ended up doing this task...Cody would be amusing to watch. Our luck...they chose the other tadk...hahaha. I bet this will be a very funny episode to see many of the teams doing this task. Hahaha. Now I really can't wait for the episodes to start airing! This is my first season, playing detective on the backend. It is going to be so much fun to watch each week play out TV. Comparing notes on what we think happened..and what really happens!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: PikaBelleChu on October 16, 2017, 11:52:49 PM
Anyway. I can’t wait to find out the significance of the ice cream LOL I have never seen that st a pit stop before. Which season did they get the coconuts?

That would be S16, Seychelles?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 16, 2017, 11:56:58 PM
To sum everything up :
1) Lifeguards reached before Skiers.
2) Lifeguards & Skiers reached at around 1:30 pm (zmb time) according to a source.
3) Jody's pic also propped up later, but clearly has more sunlight.
4) Lifeguards & Skiers pic have more shade.
5) Icecream sellers are usually available when there's shade. We see Lifeguards/Skiers having icecream but not Jody
6) Phil's shirt is also more wrinkled in Skiers/Lifeguards pic than in Jody's
7) Production packed up soon (in an hour according to a source) after Skiers/Lifeguards pic was taken
8) Jody have both hands on their hips
9) Points 2,3,4,5,6,7 are proving that no way Jody reached last, and also, no way Lifeguards/Skiers reached before Jody
10) Also Jody may not have been 1st/2nd from the looks of their body language. So I'll speculate that they would've reached at 3rd/4th position
11) Skiers will get a speed bump for next leg.
12) This leg looks like NEL since both skiers & lifeguards were offered ice cream and Phil was smiling
13) The mystery team is doing better than lifeguards & skiers. We know for sure that its a male-male team.
14) Next leg can be the 2nd and final Double U-Turn leg

Rankings for Leg 7 I expect, based on above points :
1/2) Twins/Debaters
3/4) Jody/Mystery team
5) Lifeguards
6) Skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 16, 2017, 11:58:40 PM
My analysis of the shadows:
In the photos of the skiers and lifeguards, the shadow of the tree is almost directly below the tree itself.  There is also a shadow in one of the pics of a piece of equipment (I think it's a reflector for lighting) that casts a rectangular shadow directly beneath the equipment.  This leads me to believe that these pictures were taken around noontime.
In the photo of Jody, there is a definite shadow across what we know (or at least strongly believe) to be the South side of the mat.  From the placement of the buildings and the mat, it is my opinion that the buildings on the East side of the street would cast a shadow on the North side of the mat, and that the building on the West side of the street would cast a shadow from the South.  Remember, the sun is in the Northern sky in Harare.
My conclusion, therefore, is that the Jody mat pics were taken after noon.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 12:03:09 AM
My guess is either Jody or Ski girls got last but it was a NEL..

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 17, 2017, 12:15:41 AM
dangambler is it tomorrow for you yet, can you tell us the exciting news  :D :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 12:37:05 AM
Okay everyone.

This thread has gotten WAY OFF TOPIC today, except for the valiant souls among you trying to DISCUSS THE SPOILERS (and shadows!), which is what this thread is for.(Big thanks to all of you!)

So let me just go over a few BASICS here.

 This thread is for DISCUSSION OF SPOILERS. Not discussion of each other, other spoilers, other sites, bragging about info you have that can't be shared.

Our basic guidelines are what is in my signature (respect for each other), a true curiosity about every detail of the race, and "detecting" work that builds upon a collaboration with each other's info.

Our guidelines on posting and sharing are in the first post of the spoiler board and hopefully have been read by you ALL. Production is tricky...so ask before posting if you have any doubts.

ALL racers are respected here. I have no idea where this Jody fans against the world attitude began. I for one could care less that they were on BB. What I DO care about is that they are TAR racers now, and as part of our TARFamily will be given the same courtesy and respect as any other racer. Comments and insight on their past and how it may reflect game play here add depth to the discussion and are welcomed.

I was off line for several hours this evening and returned to a thread filled with off topic chatter, personal comments and attacks on others, unsourced bragging, and worst of all, disappointment with RFF from many of our long term members. Trust me, I share this frustration and disappointment. The majority of the last 5 pages here ARE not what we are here for which is to question/evaluate/discuss/ and hopefully figure out every bit of the TAR wonders that we can. Terrifically proud of our TAR team!

So as a reminder:

#1) RESPECT EACH OTHER. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS.
#2) We love anyone who can bring and share info with us all. If you can, wonderful! This is not a competition, it is a collaboration with all our valued members. Every detail is cherished and evaluated. The search,  the research and the conclusions our whole team makes are the fun!
#3) Please stay ON TOPIC, which is DISCUSSION OF SPOILERS.

And Finally...someone(S) owes me a GIANT  :margarita: and a LARGE bottle of Advil.

We are going back to basics starting NOW.

Be kind to each other. This is supposed to be FUN.


So bring your curiosity, your insights, your finds. And working together we can make this another wonderful season!  :hrt:

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 17, 2017, 12:59:43 AM
I wouldn't put too much significance to the ice cream. It was a warm day, 93F (34C) at the Harare airport. Fortunately, it wasn"t humid. I imagine that after working hard and running around in the hot sun, ice cream would be a welcome and refreshing treat. I could see a connection to the greeter that has been suggested. I sure hope they didn't send everybody to Zimbabwe and have the teams make ice cream.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 17, 2017, 01:01:37 AM
I wouldn't put too much significance to the ice cream. It was a warm day, 93F (34C) at the Harare airport. Fortunately, it wasn"t humid. I imagine that after working hard and running around in the hot sun, ice cream would be a welcome and refreshing treat. I could see a connection to the greeter that has been suggested. I sure hope they didn't send everybody to Zimbabwe and have the teams make ice cream.

In the picture I posted in sightings you can see an ice cream cart with a guy chilling on the side. Maybe the man just felt nice.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 01:26:05 AM
Looks like we have a Twin sighting thanks to new member yankeeshan!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/30%20Cast/twins%20packs.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/30%20Cast/twins%20packs%20Harare.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 17, 2017, 01:29:18 AM
Looks like we have a Twin sighting thanks to new member yankeeshan!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/30%20Cast/twins%20packs.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/30%20Cast/twins%20packs%20Harare.jpg)

Thanks for all your help with the verification and also for Fossil-Racer's help in posting the photos I found on Twitter. Looking forward to contributing after many years as a lurker.
 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: pjmichaelis on October 17, 2017, 02:18:06 AM
Hi long time lurker but first time poster, really appreciate what you guys do here for fans :)

So I was trying to take a look at the shadows from the pic of the Surfers compared to the one of Jess and Cody.

Here's a little graphic I quickly did up from an image of the intersection off of Google maps...

(https://i.imgur.com/RnMJIvK.png)

The A is the Topics, the B is the Cabo/Capo building seen behind Jess and Cody, and the C is approximately where the Zimbabwe Bank seen behind Phil would be.  The red line represents a guess at the angle of the mat with Phil facing towards B.

Anyway, in the picture with the Surfers, the cameraman's shadow lines up with the angle of the mat, whereas in Jess and Cody's pic it a building's shadow (probably C) is going across the mat.  This suggests Surfers arrived before noon while Jess/Cody arrived in the afternoon, considering that in the Southern Hemisphere after the spring equinox the sun rises and sets to the south of due east.  Assuming the Surfers/Skiers arrived close together, both would be ahead of Jess/Cody.

Could be completely off-base, but figured I'd give a crack at it :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 02:21:29 AM
Awesome Thanks!! Will try to drag our NASA genius in the morning to help check in on this too! Thank you very much!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 03:43:36 AM
There is one picture that shows "Batanai Gardens" behind Phil.  This building is located further down First streeet at the next intersection (Jason Moyo Ave) below the picture above.

This would place the pitstop underneath the tree on First St and not as depicted under the tree on George Silundika Ave.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: pjmichaelis on October 17, 2017, 03:52:32 AM
There is one picture that shows "Batanai Gardens" behind Phil.  This building is located further down First streeet at the next intersection (Jason Moyo Ave) below the picture above.

This would place the pitstop underneath the tree on First St and not as depicted under the tree on George Silundika Ave.

I was wondering what that was... The shadows make a lot more sense that way also to line up with the mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 17, 2017, 04:01:42 AM
After reading the discussion about shadows and sadly realizing that I have forgotten most of the celestial navigation that I learned, I came across this site that might be of help to someone.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/AltAz.php

I hope someone can apply this information to the map information to possibly determine shadow directions and times. I think the direction would be azimuth + 180 degrees. (minus 360 if > 360)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 17, 2017, 04:16:06 AM
Ignore the posted table. I did not input the lat and long as needed. This should be better.

HARARE, ZIMBABWE                                                             
   o  ,    o  ,                                                               
E 31 02, S17 49
                                                             
Altitude and Azimuth of the Sun                                               
Oct 15, 2017
                                                                 
Zone:  2h East of Greenwich
                                                 
          Altitude    Azimuth                                                 
                      (E of N)
                                               
 h  m         o           o                                                   
                                                                             
                                                                             
04:40      -11.8       103.1
04:50       -9.5       102.2
05:00       -7.2       101.4
05:10       -4.8       100.6
05:20       -2.5        99.8
05:30        0.4        99.0
05:40        2.5        98.3
05:50        4.7        97.5
06:00        7.1        96.8
06:10        9.4        96.1
06:20       11.7        95.4
06:30       14.1        94.6
06:40       16.5        93.9
06:50       18.8        93.2
07:00       21.2        92.5
07:10       23.6        91.8
07:20       26.0        91.0
07:30       28.3        90.3
07:40       30.7        89.5
07:50       33.1        88.7
08:00       35.5        87.9
08:10       37.9        87.1
08:20       40.2        86.2
08:30       42.6        85.3
08:40       45.0        84.3
08:50       47.3        83.3
09:00       49.7        82.2
09:10       52.1        81.0
09:20       54.4        79.7
09:30       56.7        78.3
09:40       59.1        76.7
09:50       61.4        74.9
10:00       63.7        72.9
10:10       65.9        70.6
10:20       68.1        67.8
10:30       70.3        64.5
10:40       72.4        60.5
10:50       74.5        55.5
11:00       76.3        49.1
11:10       78.0        41.0
11:20       79.4        30.5
11:30       80.4        17.5
11:40       80.8         2.5
11:50       80.6       347.2
12:00       79.8       333.4
12:10       78.5       322.1
12:20       76.9       313.2
12:30       75.1       306.3
12:40       73.1       300.9
12:50       71.0       296.6
13:00       68.9       293.1
13:10       66.7       290.2
13:20       64.4       287.7
13:30       62.1       285.6
13:40       59.8       283.7
13:50       57.5       282.1
14:00       55.2       280.6
14:10       52.8       279.3
14:20       50.5       278.1
14:30       48.1       276.9
14:40       45.8       275.9
14:50       43.4       274.9
15:00       41.0       274.0
15:10       38.7       273.1
15:20       36.3       272.2
15:30       33.9       271.4
15:40       31.5       270.6
15:50       29.2       269.8
16:00       26.8       269.1
16:10       24.4       268.3
16:20       22.0       267.6
16:30       19.7       266.9
16:40       17.3       266.1
16:50       14.9       265.4
17:00       12.6       264.7
17:10       10.2       264.0
17:20        7.9       263.3
17:30        5.5       262.5
17:40        3.3       261.8
17:50        1.1       261.0
18:00       -1.7       260.3
18:10       -4.0       259.5
18:20       -6.3       258.7
18:30       -8.7       257.8
18:40      -11.0       257.0
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 17, 2017, 04:32:40 AM
Here is another site that the detectives may want to try out.

http://www.findmyshadow.com/

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 17, 2017, 04:41:50 AM
Do we think we will have a second leg in Zimbabwe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 05:18:55 AM
YES. Visiting an african nation for just one leg seems absurd to even begin with. 2 legs here, then they'll move to asia for the rest
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 05:20:00 AM
Based on the above table my estimates for shadow angles.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARJr. on October 17, 2017, 05:48:00 AM
YES. Visiting an african nation for just one leg seems absurd to even begin with. 2 legs here, then they'll move to asia for the rest

They only did a leg in Morocco.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 06:13:14 AM
YES. Visiting an african nation for just one leg seems absurd to even begin with. 2 legs here, then they'll move to asia for the rest

They only did a leg in Morocco.

But if this is NEL as is being speculated, then another leg will happen here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 06:18:38 AM
 
" don't know anything about the next leg yet... but I was looking at flights out of johannesbirg tomorrow and only 3 possible locations that seem to make sense...

Dubai at 1030
hong kong at 1230
singapore at 145

I think Hong Kong or Singapore may be more likely "

Which means after we are done with zimbabwe with possibly 2 legs, we MIGHT move to asia and hongkong, singapore are the topmost countries to be visited!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 17, 2017, 06:19:03 AM
SPECULATION!

That could probably an extended pit stop in Harare before heading towards Southeast Asia for the next leg. A Speed Bump will be seen there.

Hong Kong or Singapore are probable connections towards on flights to Southeast Asia. Thailand or Cambodia perhaps.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 17, 2017, 06:35:53 AM
Dan it's morning we r waiting  :bunny :conf:
Daaaaan it’s morning!!! C’mon C’mon... give us that nugget!🔥

You two should go to the top of this page and read what Georgiapeach had to say about recent behavior. Obviously you haven't read it.

If Dan has something to share, he'll do so when he's ready. Until then, posts like the above are just noise and an irritant to everyone. It's also more stuff to wade through if you are trying to find something posted earlier.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 08:37:44 AM
The photo of the mat at the pitstop from the person who saw the twins is practically completely shaded...

There was more sun on the mat in the photos with the other people.  I guess it doesn't really help though as it could mean they came earlier before the sun was completely up or later when it was going down, but interesting to note.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARJr. on October 17, 2017, 08:59:37 AM


Dubai, Hong Kong, and Singapore are good connection countries which opens up a lot of possibilities as to where they are headed next. They'll most likely go to Southeast Asia if they decided to connect via Hong Kong and Singapore.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 17, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
In the picture of the twins. They guy in front of them with a baseball cap looking like he’s chatting with a few women. Could it be another racer? Or maybe just crew.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: JaKAsK on October 17, 2017, 09:19:02 AM
Looks like Jody got Ice Cream too!

https://twitter.com/teamjody15/status/920292269651095552

Source:

Twitter/teamjody15
(Hope I did that right!)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: naejae91 on October 17, 2017, 09:24:19 AM



Johannesburg airport did provide daily flights to Perth (SAA) and Sydney (Qantas except Wednesday) which means we might not rule out Australia completely yet, but yeah a big jump to Southeast Asia or East Asia are most likely gonna happen.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 17, 2017, 09:24:32 AM
In the picture of the twins. They guy in front of them with a baseball cap looking like he’s chatting with a few women. Could it be another racer? Or maybe just crew.
I believe he might have to much hair to be one of the racers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 17, 2017, 09:26:07 AM
Looks like Jody got Ice Cream too!

https://twitter.com/teamjody15/status/920292269651095552

Source:

Twitter/teamjody15
(Hope I did that right!)

They don't look worried at all in that pic if there on their way to the pit stop
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 17, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
A Jody fan on Twitter said they were told by a witness that Jody was in second place and they were upset they missed first place by a couple seconds

(Needs a source or the info is only hearsay...)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: JaKAsK on October 17, 2017, 09:31:56 AM
Looks like Jody got Ice Cream too!

https://twitter.com/teamjody15/status/920292269651095552

Source:

Twitter/teamjody15
(Hope I did that right!)

They don't look worried at all in that pic if there on their way to the pit stop

I would agree they look laid back; my guess is this is after the arrival at pit stop - figuring they wouldn't be so causal and not running if they were en route
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
The twins were in 1st.

(Useless with a source, please do not post without sources, thank you)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 17, 2017, 09:33:56 AM
Witness that took the Jody ice cream pic said they were right behind the twins , so that means twins won first Jody second, third ??? Fourth??? Fifth and sixth must be skiers and lifeguards

(useless info without a source, see above)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 17, 2017, 09:37:13 AM
AMAZING 🔥😄 Great to see this news! So proud of my cousins!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 09:39:25 AM
Well I am going to chose to believe a picture and info from a source that was there over shadow/sun theories so we will roll with this..

Hopefully we can find out a few more things.

1)Who the mystery 6th m/m team is
2) Who got last
3) If this was a non elim leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 17, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
I'm starting to wonder if we are missing legs here and are down to the final 4... the last few seasons have run around 21 days or so so it's feasible that they will be back in the US as early as Monday next week.

Meaning we've only got 6 days to go and probably only 1 more destination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 09:45:00 AM
I'm starting to wonder if we are missing legs here and are down to the final 4... the last few seasons have run around 21 days or so so it's feasible that they will be back in the US as early as Monday next week.

Meaning we've only got 6 days to go and probably only 1 more destination.

We seen the other teams on the flight. There at least 6 teams this is still leg 7 or possibly 8. Still a lot of time to go
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 17, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
In the picture you can see the back of the twin when Jody is walking away.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 09:50:33 AM
So, the teams we are missing in last pit stop are the Debaters and a mystery team still to be determined?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 09:52:10 AM
So, the teams we are missing in last pit stop are the Debaters and a mystery team still to be determined?

Think so because debaters were on the flight and the mystery team LOL supposedly. Hope so
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 09:52:44 AM
So, the teams we are missing in last pit stop are the Debaters and a mystery team still to be determined?

Those are the two, but it doesn't necessarly mean they were behind everyone they could have been inbetween Twins/Jody and Lifeguards/Ski girls.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 17, 2017, 09:53:51 AM
Jody team is doing amazing. Here is an article they found.
https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/2017/10/17/the-amazing-race-lights-up-harare#.WeYXmK3jd00.twitter
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 09:55:07 AM
Article says there is 6 teams that is awesome news
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
Jody team is doing amazing. Here is an article they found.
https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/2017/10/17/the-amazing-race-lights-up-harare#.WeYXmK3jd00.twitter

"Six teams of two were tasked to sing "Pasi Pano Pane Zviedzo".

SO that confirms it 6 teams were doing this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 09:57:55 AM
Ya.. And a possible NEL hopefully. Feel like it has to be soon so I am guessing it was this one in my opinion
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 17, 2017, 10:00:23 AM
Here's the song mentioned in the article

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzAhRrKa5wU
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Fanfav21 on October 17, 2017, 10:04:52 AM
I'm starting to wonder if we are missing legs here and are down to the final 4... the last few seasons have run around 21 days or so so it's feasible that they will be back in the US as early as Monday next week.

Meaning we've only got 6 days to go and probably only 1 more destination.

Seems plausible to me! we have had no sighting of the Male?male teams in a few days....but what has happened to the debaters?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 10:07:43 AM
I'm starting to wonder if we are missing legs here and are down to the final 4... the last few seasons have run around 21 days or so so it's feasible that they will be back in the US as early as Monday next week.

Meaning we've only got 6 days to go and probably only 1 more destination.

Seems plausible to me! we have had no sighting of the Male?male teams in a few days....but what has happened to the debaters?

It was just confirmed there are 6 teams in Africa
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 10:09:02 AM
So, the teams we are missing in last pit stop are the Debaters and a mystery team still to be determined?

Those are the two, but it doesn't necessarly mean they were behind everyone they could have been inbetween Twins/Jody and Lifeguards/Ski girls.

Right, so want to know who that 6th team is!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 10:11:54 AM
So, the teams we are missing in last pit stop are the Debaters and a mystery team still to be determined?

Those are the two, but it doesn't necessarly mean they were behind everyone they could have been inbetween Twins/Jody and Lifeguards/Ski girls.

Right, so want to know who that 6th team is!

Imagine if it is the Eaters! I will 100% back them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 17, 2017, 10:13:00 AM
Yes, they are the twin EMT Firefighters, Eric and Daniel Guiffreda. I knew they had to leave and couldn’t say what was up but I thought it was to do with the military. So surprised when I saw them in a photo for The Amazing Race standing next to B.B. STARS
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 10:32:53 AM
Hang on guys. Chateau NASA will be on the shadow job soon! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 10:34:39 AM
With 7 legs have done finished, as leg 8 has not begun yet. It's 67 pages and nearly 3 weeks since the thread was created, it made super fast.
All due to Jody Stans. Thank You :)

All due to EVERYONE. Thank you ALL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 10:43:59 AM
What is everyones best guess on who the 6th team is?? I have no clue LOL :bunny
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 10:48:01 AM
I think least likely is NBA.

We saw violinists most recently in the last leg but we also know they got u turned so there is also a decent chance they got eliminated last leg.

so it could be racecar drivers or eaters.   

If I had to guess I would say race car drivers but it could be violinists or eaters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 17, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
I've got a personal interest in the race car drivers so I'm hoping its them  }:>
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 10:49:41 AM
I wonder if there was a team in back of the violinists that they couldve used the double u turn for and we would all be in for a surprise
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 10:52:38 AM
The twins were in 1st.

ANY INFO POSTED HERE MUST BE SOURCED.

Provide the LINK to your info or don't post.

If the source is not able to be shared then you have 2 choices.

DON'T share, don't post, don't comment on it

OR

Check with me to see if the info is safe to share. (concerns re source or production or safety)

This goes for everyone.

There is to be NO MORE

blahblah  that a team is a place without supporting evidence.

Also this a SPOILER DSICUSSION Thread, not one's team thread. If you want to celebrate or discuss Jody we welcome your comment and enthusiasm in THEIR thread.

:tu everyone!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 10:57:28 AM
The twins were in 1st.

ANY INFO POSTED HERE MUST BE SOURCED.

Provide the LINK to your info or don't post.

If the source is not able to be shared then you have 2 choices.

DON'T share, don't post, don't comment on it

OR

Check with me to see if the info is safe to share. (concerns re source or production or safety)

This goes for everyone.

There is to be NO MORE

blahblah  that a team is a place without supporting evidence.

Also this a SPOILER DSICUSSION Thread, not one's team thread. If you want to celebrate or discuss Jody we welcome your comment and enthusiasm in THEIR thread.

:tu everyone!

You got it Peach!  :bunny
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 17, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
We know that Debaters are still in the race, but a local who posted to Facebook saying he witnessed the filming said he saw them. He doesn't know what place they were in, said he saw them some time between 1 - 2 o' clock (huge window). He also said it was one of the hottest days there, so I wouldn't count on the ice cream have any significant role in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 11:00:54 AM
Im still not convinced, based on whats been posted, that its 100% the twins 1st and Jody 2nd. Can we be sure it wasn't  Skiers/Lifeguards 1& 2   and later, Twins/Jody?  Have I missed any additional confirmation?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 11:02:34 AM
Someone was in crutches that guy said?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 17, 2017, 11:03:07 AM
Why do I think that a second Czechia leg is suddenly more likely?

All the great shadow analysis (which I will NOT be helping with, I learned my lesson during TAR 26  :groan:) made me realize there's FOUR DAYS between the pit stops in Prague and Harare. Even if there's an extended Pit Stop after Prague teams would still get to Harare on Oct. 15 right before sunset. Theories-

(1) production, not wanting to race in Harare at night, forced teams somewhere overnight to start racing on Oct. 16
(2) production DID have a leg in Zimbabwe the night of Oct. 15, with a second leg on Oct. 16
(3) production had a leg somewhere in Czechia on Oct. 13 and Phil bolted for Zimbabwe soon after

I would LOVE (2) but I think safety/filming concerns would make (3) the most likely option.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 11:06:22 AM
Can you explain those screenshots because there are parts of the conversation that are missing
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 17, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Someone was in crutches that guy said?

He said locals were crowding to watch and one had crutches. The only info of note from the chat is what's included.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 11:11:06 AM
Proof that it was the Twins that reached the Pitstop at 1st place beating Jody by seconds. Thats why they had "hands on their hips" lol
I'm sharing this by taking her permission into account and also cuz you people want answers!. No contract was singed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 11:11:14 AM
That's a really random thing to note about a regular local there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 11:14:38 AM
Proof that it was the Twins that reached the Pitstop at 1st place beating Jody by seconds. Thats why they had "hands on their hips" lol
I'm sharing this by taking her permission into account and also cuz you people want answers!. No contract was singed.

Being the cynic that I am, isn't there a possibility that this person THINKS they were in 1st and 2nd and might have not been there if/when Skiers/Lifeguards came through earlier? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 11:16:45 AM
The lady said I SUPPOSE  its because they missed first place because they looked disappointed. She was trying to put two and two together. That's not a definite confirmation.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 17, 2017, 11:18:17 AM
One of the twins back are in the picture of Jess and Cody with the ice cream so they definitely were right near eachother.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 11:19:02 AM
Proof that it was the Twins that reached the Pitstop at 1st place beating Jody by seconds. Thats why they had "hands on their hips" lol
I'm sharing this by taking her permission into account and also cuz you people want answers!. No contract was singed.

Being the cynic that I am, isn't there a possibility that this person THINKS they were in 1st and 2nd and might have not been there if/when Skiers/Lifeguards came through earlier?

No because I showed her their pics also. She didn't see any team come before the twins and jody. Then she left so doesn't know about later rankings. You may choose to be highly skeptic but we should also work with what we have!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 11:19:12 AM
I know they were close together but that lady is assuming they were second because they were close to them by seconds and also did not see other teams. We don't know the order
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
can you ask her what time this was?  That may be a helpful indicator.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 17, 2017, 11:21:13 AM
Proof that it was the Twins that reached the Pitstop at 1st place beating Jody by seconds. Thats why they had "hands on their hips" lol
I'm sharing this by taking her permission into account and also cuz you people want answers!. No contract was singed.

Being the cynic that I am, isn't there a possibility that this person THINKS they were in 1st and 2nd and might have not been there if/when Skiers/Lifeguards came through earlier?

No because I showed her their pics also. She didn't see any team come before the twins and jody. Then she left so doesn't know about later rankings. You may choose to be highly skeptic but we should also work with what we have!

Did she tell you what time they came in?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 11:21:23 AM
Im still not convinced, based on whats been posted, that its 100% the twins 1st and Jody 2nd. Can we be sure it wasn't  Skiers/Lifeguards 1& 2   and later, Twins/Jody?  Have I missed any additional confirmation?

You are correct.

When you all can be nice for 15 min I can finish getting the info to our shadow genius.!!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 17, 2017, 11:22:55 AM
Picture of #Jody was taken at 1:42 pm yesterday #Tar30 #AmazingRace

https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/920323877900873728
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 11:24:01 AM
And I thought the skiers were 1:30 so how does that add up?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 11:24:34 AM
Picture of #Jody was taken at 1:42 pm yesterday #Tar30 #AmazingRace

https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/920323877900873728

her twitter feed is protected
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 11:27:06 AM
I'm very curious to see what the shadow genius comes up with! Hopefully we can base some placements off of that because I am not convinced by that conversation. It seems she was assuming
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 17, 2017, 11:32:05 AM
And I thought the skiers were 1:30 so how does that add up?

According to a reply underneath that tweet. she also claims that the Skiers/Lifeguards checked in at 2:04/the picture was taken at 2:04.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 17, 2017, 11:33:48 AM
About the screenshots of the convo.....

He randomly told you that a local was on crutches? I’m finding this a little odd. Is this the “shocking” news that couldn’t be told?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 17, 2017, 11:36:10 AM
I think some of the confusion/concern may be that it doesn’t show in the conversation with the lad if she was there from the very beginning or not. If she was In the beginning then what she says would mean twins 1st then Cody/Jess 2nd.   But if she wasn’t then there is a chance that other teams could have been through before she started watching. Maybe she made it clear in conversations that she was there very early. There’s a lot to read and I may have missed that somewhere. I’m not saying she is wrong just that it could be why there is some skepticism happening
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 17, 2017, 11:38:16 AM
We know that Debaters are still in the race, but a local who posted to Facebook saying he witnessed the filming said he saw them. He doesn't know what place they were in, said he saw them some time between 1 - 2 o' clock (huge window). He also said it was one of the hottest days there, so I wouldn't count on the ice cream have any significant role in the race.

He randomly told you that a local was in crutches? I’m finding this a little odd. Is this the “shocking” news that couldn’t be told?

Yup, he randomly told me that a local was in crutches. I don't know. I wasn't the user who posted about upcoming "shocking" news.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 17, 2017, 11:38:56 AM
Gotcha. Okay
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 17, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
I can see her twitter and she never offers any confirmation or credits anyone for pics & information. She is one of the leaders of the Jody army and thats fine. But I can't put faith in someone that throws out a statement with no confirmation. I will wait on the RFF shadow expert. 
Picture of #Jody was taken at 1:42 pm yesterday #Tar30 #AmazingRace

https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/920323877900873728

her twitter feed is protected
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 11:53:17 AM
I realize the excitement of finding what could be positive info on your favorite team. But reading this forum for years has taught me never to assume, even 1%!

Waiting patiently on the shadow expert!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 11:55:20 AM
Who's to say that the shadow analysis will be correct?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 11:57:17 AM
I can see her twitter and she never offers any confirmation or credits anyone for pics & information. She is one of the leaders of the Jody army and thats fine. But I can't put faith in someone that throws out a statement with no confirmation. I will wait on the RFF shadow expert. 
Picture of #Jody was taken at 1:42 pm yesterday #Tar30 #AmazingRace

https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/920323877900873728

her twitter feed is protected

Seems like I too made a mistake sharing those DMs as people are just being negative & hateful towards us. Believing at first hand info from a local seems more valuable than speculation on sun-shade theory! Anyways, Lets cut this negativity and work together. Both camps want peace i suppose.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
I would trust the Jody fan account because they have talked to the sources first hand. They know the exact times those pit stop pics were shot.

They don't always share source names because then their sources will be overloaded with questions from TAR fans.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 12:02:05 PM
You didn’t make a mistake! That was great she gave you info. I think people are just trying to stress we can not make huge assumptions off of some little facts. Don’t let it get you down or think people are upset. It’s a piece of the puzzle we have to put together and it’s appreciated
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 12:04:06 PM
Who's to say that the shadow analysis will be correct?
Shadows are science.  A scientist can tell you where the sun is located at any specific time at any specific location on Earth. Buildings also don't move. So a building acts like a sundial, if you know how to read it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
But photo quality can hinder that process.

The Jody fan knows exactly when the photos were taken. I will take that as a better indicator than shadow software.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 12:07:28 PM
But photo quality can hinder that process.

The Jody fan knows exactly when the photos were taken. I will take that as a better indicator than shadow software.

Actually I rather have a scientific definitive answer than what someone maybe can recall but that’s just me
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 12:08:18 PM
I can see her twitter and she never offers any confirmation or credits anyone for pics & information. She is one of the leaders of the Jody army and thats fine. But I can't put faith in someone that throws out a statement with no confirmation. I will wait on the RFF shadow expert. 
Picture of #Jody was taken at 1:42 pm yesterday #Tar30 #AmazingRace

https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/920323877900873728

her twitter feed is protected

Seems like I too made a mistake sharing those DMs as people are just being negative & hateful towards us. Believing at first hand info from a local seems more valuable than speculation on sun-shade theory! Anyways, Lets cut this negativity and work together. Both camps want peace i suppose.

There is no mistake and please, no negativity. The information is great and much appreciated, just taking things with a objective eye and with a grain of salt.  Reading here for years has shown me not to take things at face value easily.  Its great to have pieces of the puzzle. Thats the fun of it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 17, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
When it comes to shadows are they longer when the sun is rising and setting? If so the cloudy picture of Jody walking away from the pit stop shows little shadow under they body. Now if you look a the pic with Skiers and lifeguards you can see people in the background with longer shadows. Not sure if that helps or not.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 12:09:52 PM
They're judging the shadows based on the photos. There would have to be some room for error in that.

The Jody fan was plainly told by sources when the pictures were taken. It's easy to see when a picture is taken. The source doesn't have to recollect anything. That sounds like solid evidence to me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 12:11:16 PM
They're judging the shadows based on the photos. There would have to be some room for error in that.

The Jody fan was plainly told by sources when the pictures were taken. It's easy to see when a picture is taken. The source doesn't have to recollect anything. That sounds like solid evidence to me.

To each his own
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 12:12:30 PM
Thank you for sharing bluesoul, that helps!

again guys, this is NOT a discussion of other forums and what they do. Please get back ON TOPIC.

WE are here to work together.

:ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
So we can't share information that Jody fans find here? I'm very confused.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 12:15:53 PM
So from eyewitness accounts we have Lifeguards and Skiers checking in at 1:30, then Twins, then Jody at 1:42.

Since we are going by the recollection of eyewitnesses, none of whom claim to have seen all six teams.

Proceed with caution.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 17, 2017, 12:16:18 PM
I can see her twitter and she never offers any confirmation or credits anyone for pics & information. She is one of the leaders of the Jody army and thats fine. But I can't put faith in someone that throws out a statement with no confirmation. I will wait on the RFF shadow expert. 
Picture of #Jody was taken at 1:42 pm yesterday #Tar30 #AmazingRace

https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/920323877900873728

her twitter feed is protected

Seems like I too made a mistake sharing those DMs as people are just being negative & hateful towards us. Believing at first hand info from a local seems more valuable than speculation on sun-shade theory! Anyways, Lets cut this negativity and work together. Both camps want peace i suppose.
 
 
I never meant my post to be negative or hateful. RFF has always worked on confirmed information & Jody Camp does not. To each his own. This TAR fan likes to know that information given is legit and not something that is just being posted.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 17, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
Did no one notice that the guy said they did retakes--because of the sun.  Now you can all speculate as to if the photos were taken during take one or two.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 12:17:46 PM
Did no one notice that the guy said they did retakes--because of the sun.  Now you can all speculate as to if the photos were taken during take one or two.  :groan:

Would only be a minute or two time difference of filming the run to mat
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 17, 2017, 12:20:55 PM
source it or don't post it!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 17, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
Did no one notice that the guy said they did retakes--because of the sun.  Now you can all speculate as to if the photos were taken during take one or two.  :groan:

That's normal, yeah. At least some of the time they will have a team run in a couple times, and the one that looks better is what makes it to air. In the past, have seen previews from the next episode where the reaction of the last team being eliminated is different from when it happened the previous week.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 12:22:38 PM
Can someone quick find me the post with the MAT big building shadow?? Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 12:23:08 PM
No, skiiers and lifeguards were at 2:04, according to Jody fan source.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 12:23:15 PM
So from eyewitness accounts we have Lifeguards and Skiers checking in at 1:30, then Twins, then Jody at 1:42.

Since we are going by the recollection of eyewitnesses, none of whom claim to have seen all six teams.

Proceed with caution.

No. According to our sources Jody reached at 1:42 and Lifeguards/Skiers at 2:04. These were the times at which pics were taken and NOT posted on social media.
I choose to refrain from sharing the DMs. So you have to believe our word. The sources don't want to get disclosed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 12:25:01 PM
Excited to hear the shadow theory peach to piece this all together
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 17, 2017, 12:25:54 PM
Georgiapeach I would post the link to their tweet but they r private
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 17, 2017, 12:28:23 PM
Can someone quick find me the post with the MAT big building shadow?? Thanks!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.225.html

Post #237
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 12:31:19 PM
^^That's the page, here's the post with the best shadow:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1209330.html#msg1209330
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 12:33:28 PM
So from eyewitness accounts we have Lifeguards and Skiers checking in at 1:30, then Twins, then Jody at 1:42.

Since we are going by the recollection of eyewitnesses, none of whom claim to have seen all six teams.

Proceed with caution.

No. According to our sources Jody reached at 1:42 and Lifeguards/Skiers at 2:04. These were the times at which pics were taken and NOT posted on social media.
I choose to refrain from sharing the DMs. So you have to believe our word. The sources don't want to get disclosed.

Source that saw Twins and Jody didn't see Lifeguards and Skiers.  Earlier post says source of Lifeguard/Skier photo said it was 1:30.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 17, 2017, 12:46:11 PM
We're getting conflicting info now on when the Skiers/Lifeguards arrived

Yesterday people were adamant that it was 1:30pm

Now (seemingly after Jody sighting was clocked at 1:42pm), its 2:04pm

Odd.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 12:47:20 PM
So from eyewitness accounts we have Lifeguards and Skiers checking in at 1:30, then Twins, then Jody at 1:42.

Since we are going by the recollection of eyewitnesses, none of whom claim to have seen all six teams.

Proceed with caution.

No. According to our sources Jody reached at 1:42 and Lifeguards/Skiers at 2:04. These were the times at which pics were taken and NOT posted on social media.
I choose to refrain from sharing the DMs. So you have to believe our word. The sources don't want to get disclosed.

Source that saw Twins and Jody didn't see Lifeguards and Skiers.  Earlier post says source of Lifeguard/Skier photo said it was 1:30.

We confirmed this from not just one source but many sources. One source rarely gives you the whole information.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 17, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
So from eyewitness accounts we have Lifeguards and Skiers checking in at 1:30, then Twins, then Jody at 1:42.

Since we are going by the recollection of eyewitnesses, none of whom claim to have seen all six teams.

Proceed with caution.

No. According to our sources Jody reached at 1:42 and Lifeguards/Skiers at 2:04. These were the times at which pics were taken and NOT posted on social media.
I choose to refrain from sharing the DMs. So you have to believe our word. The sources don't want to get disclosed.

Source that saw Twins and Jody didn't see Lifeguards and Skiers.  Earlier post says source of Lifeguard/Skier photo said it was 1:30.

We confirmed this from not just one source but many sources. One source rarely gives you the whole information.

lol at we.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 12:57:51 PM
iF Twins/Jody and Lifeguards/Ski girls were only like 20/30 minutes apart I doubt you can get a real accurate reading with sun shadows espically with a few pictures..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 17, 2017, 01:00:34 PM
heres what I can say as of now, from multiple people on the ground..
an all male team got first and barely beat jody.
jody got there at 1:42... lifeguards shows up at 2... (confusion above is because I said 130-2, and got further confirmation today)
the teams are still in Harare and leaving tomorrow
everyone we've talked to say 6 teams were there and seem to think they're all safe, but theres reasons I don't quite believe this and think they could be mistaken.
don't know if debaters were before or after skiers/lifeguards... also don't know who the 6th team racing is

because they're still in Harare I have to keep some things quiet for now though, also its harder to share things when every time we do the person is bombarded with messages and makes it harder for us to get info...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 17, 2017, 01:01:20 PM
iF Twins/Jody and Lifeguards/Ski girls were only like 20/30 minutes apart I doubt you can get a real accurate reading with sun shadows espically with a few pictures..

yah looking back it may have just been clouds being the difference
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 17, 2017, 01:03:47 PM
^^^Thanks, Dan!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TSPKM on October 17, 2017, 01:07:13 PM
Im still not convinced, based on whats been posted, that its 100% the twins 1st and Jody 2nd. Can we be sure it wasn't  Skiers/Lifeguards 1& 2   and later, Twins/Jody?  Have I missed any additional confirmation?

Lol no. If you notice, Jody fans tend to say they were first or second every leg without any evidence to back that claim up. It’s just wishful thinking from their fans.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 01:08:05 PM
heres what I can say as of now, from multiple people on the ground..
an all male team got first and barely beat jody.
jody got there at 1:42... lifeguards shows up at 2... (confusion above is because I said 130-2, and got further confirmation today)
the teams are still in Harare and leaving tomorrow
everyone we've talked to say 6 teams were there and seem to think they're all safe, but theres reasons I don't quite believe this and think they could be mistaken.
don't know if debaters were before skiers/lifeguards... also don't know who the 6th team racing is

because they're still in Harare I have to keep some things quiet for now though, also its harder to share things when every time we do the person is bombarded with messages and makes it harder for us to get info...

Still dont know who any of the "sources" are so it is hard to go by. And most of the people are asking these people if they have seen jess and cody numerous times on almost every post on social media that Ive seen so they stop answering. So you are still saying you have shocking news????? Really confused on how something so shocking has not been heard of anywhere
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 01:08:28 PM
heres what I can say as of now, from multiple people on the ground..
an all male team got first and barely beat jody.
jody got there at 1:42... lifeguards shows up at 2... (confusion above is because I said 130-2, and got further confirmation today)
the teams are still in Harare and leaving tomorrow
everyone we've talked to say 6 teams were there and seem to think they're all safe, but theres reasons I don't quite believe this and think they could be mistaken.
don't know if debaters were before skiers/lifeguards... also don't know who the 6th team racing is

because they're still in Harare I have to keep some things quiet for now though, also its harder to share things when every time we do the person is bombarded with messages and makes it harder for us to get info...
Bombardment happens cuz we choose to work alone and I'll include myself also. If we just assign one person to one source, things might be better. But instead, we take digs at each other. For what ? We haven't even met personally. But the main goal of getting correct info without harassing the source should be our aim, that can only happen if we cooperate, collaborate and commit. My 2 cents.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 17, 2017, 01:10:09 PM
Im still not convinced, based on whats been posted, that its 100% the twins 1st and Jody 2nd. Can we be sure it wasn't  Skiers/Lifeguards 1& 2   and later, Twins/Jody?  Have I missed any additional confirmation?

Lol no. If you notice, Jody fans tend to say they were first or second every leg without any evidence to back that claim up. It’s just wishful thinking from their fans.
Jody fans? Or people who actually see the filming live and relay said information
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
Im still not convinced, based on whats been posted, that its 100% the twins 1st and Jody 2nd. Can we be sure it wasn't  Skiers/Lifeguards 1& 2   and later, Twins/Jody?  Have I missed any additional confirmation?

Lol no. If you notice, Jody fans tend to say they were first or second every leg without any evidence to back that claim up. It’s just wishful thinking from their fans.
Jody fans? Or people who actually see the filming live and relay said information

Didnt jody fans say they were first at the u turn board? And were adamant about it and it turned out to be false. So yes it has been frequent
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 17, 2017, 01:11:23 PM
Im still not convinced, based on whats been posted, that its 100% the twins 1st and Jody 2nd. Can we be sure it wasn't  Skiers/Lifeguards 1& 2   and later, Twins/Jody?  Have I missed any additional confirmation?

Lol no. If you notice, Jody fans tend to say they were first or second every leg without any evidence to back that claim up. It’s just wishful thinking from their fans.

They have provided evidence. There's a chat posted literally earlier today with a witness who claims Jody came in 2nd.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 17, 2017, 01:11:37 PM
heres what I can say as of now, from multiple people on the ground..
an all male team got first and barely beat jody.
jody got there at 1:42... lifeguards shows up at 2... (confusion above is because I said 130-2, and got further confirmation today)
the teams are still in Harare and leaving tomorrow
everyone we've talked to say 6 teams were there and seem to think they're all safe, but theres reasons I don't quite believe this and think they could be mistaken.
don't know if debaters were before skiers/lifeguards... also don't know who the 6th team racing is

because they're still in Harare I have to keep some things quiet for now though, also its harder to share things when every time we do the person is bombarded with messages and makes it harder for us to get info...

Thanks for the info, Dan! It is mildly surprising that none of these sources can identify the sixth team. Honestly, I'm more curious about who THEY are more than anything!

So, does that mean the teams all finished close together? Because if the Twins/Jody arrived first and second at 1:42 and the Lifeguards/Skiiers arrived at 2:04, then the Debaters/Mystery Male Team would have had to be either in between those times, which means all teams checked in within 30 minutes of each other, or the Debaters/Mystery Male Team checked in after Lifeguards/Skiiers shortly after, since there's still that source that said production was packed up not too long after the Lifeguards/Skiiers checked in.

Seriously, though, I just want to know the Mystery Team! Part of me thinks it's the Indy Drivers, but I have no proof to even back that up.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 17, 2017, 01:13:48 PM
heres what I can say as of now, from multiple people on the ground..
an all male team got first and barely beat jody.
jody got there at 1:42... lifeguards shows up at 2... (confusion above is because I said 130-2, and got further confirmation today)
the teams are still in Harare and leaving tomorrow
everyone we've talked to say 6 teams were there and seem to think they're all safe, but theres reasons I don't quite believe this and think they could be mistaken.
don't know if debaters were before skiers/lifeguards... also don't know who the 6th team racing is

because they're still in Harare I have to keep some things quiet for now though, also its harder to share things when every time we do the person is bombarded with messages and makes it harder for us to get info...

Still dont know who any of the "sources" are so it is hard to go by. And most of the people are asking these people if they have seen jess and cody numerous times on almost every post on social media that Ive seen so they stop answering. So you are still saying you have shocking news????? Really confused on how something so shocking has not been heard of anywhere

I agree all the people asking about them is an issue and we've tried to limit it and not post sightings or block out names... but it is hard to contain... and yes something id consider pretty shocking based on a few reasons.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 01:13:59 PM
What if.....
The Lifeguards did check in at 1:30 but had to wait out a penalty?  Meanwhile, the Twins and Jody check in. Then the Skiers show up just as the penalty is expiring at 2:00?

This would explain quite a bit.

Also if the other two teams came in shortly after 2:00 it would explain how the first witness saw the Lifeguards and Skiers, then came back an hour or so later and all was packed up.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 17, 2017, 01:16:14 PM
heres what I can say as of now, from multiple people on the ground..
an all male team got first and barely beat jody.
jody got there at 1:42... lifeguards shows up at 2... (confusion above is because I said 130-2, and got further confirmation today)
the teams are still in Harare and leaving tomorrow
everyone we've talked to say 6 teams were there and seem to think they're all safe, but theres reasons I don't quite believe this and think they could be mistaken.
don't know if debaters were before skiers/lifeguards... also don't know who the 6th team racing is

because they're still in Harare I have to keep some things quiet for now though, also its harder to share things when every time we do the person is bombarded with messages and makes it harder for us to get info...

Thanks for the info, Dan! It is mildly surprising that none of these sources can identify the sixth team. Honestly, I'm more curious about who THEY are more than anything!

So, does that mean the teams all finished close together? Because if the Twins/Jody arrived first and second at 1:42 and the Lifeguards/Skiiers arrived at 2:04, then the Debaters/Mystery Male Team would have had to be either in between those times, which means all teams checked in within 30 minutes of each other, or the Debaters/Mystery Male Team checked in after Lifeguards/Skiiers shortly after, since there's still that source that said production was packed up not too long after the Lifeguards/Skiiers checked in.

Seriously, though, I just want to know the Mystery Team! Part of me thinks it's the Indy Drivers, but I have no proof to even back that up.

I'm with you... who the hell is the 6th team! lmao

and yes it does seem that all teams were pretty close.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 01:21:35 PM
Georgiapeach I would post the link to their tweet but they r private

Then don't bother posting at all. if others don't want to share info that is their prerogative.

:tup:

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 01:22:38 PM
Can someone quick find me the post with the MAT big building shadow?? Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 01:26:59 PM
Can someone quick find me the post with the MAT big building shadow?? Thanks!
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1209330.html#msg1209330 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1209330.html#msg1209330)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 01:45:29 PM
Thanks chills! I thought I lost the OTHER half of my brain lol.

Okay...who is watching flights? Airports? Phil sightings?

All wanna be detectives should be hard at work! If teams may be on the move...so should WE!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 02:18:36 PM
What about buses?  A couple were scheduled to leave in the last hour or so. It's a 17 hour trip that way.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 17, 2017, 02:22:46 PM
is there another vist to the falls again
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 02:31:19 PM
is there another vist to the falls again

If it was NEL, then chances of next leg happening in zimbabwe itself increases. I am basing this argument on previous seasons while taking into account only 2nd NEL. So that might be on the cards!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 17, 2017, 02:32:36 PM
how many teams are left and what leg this is
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 02:34:28 PM
how many teams are left and what leg this is
Leg 7 and 6 teams with NEL, 5 teams otherwise
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 17, 2017, 02:40:17 PM
If they did leave today

Joburg had some departures in the early afternoon (Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Hong Kong) that teams could make, if they were on earlier morning flights out of Harare

They also have some in the evening that could work too (Dubai, Hong Kong, Sydney, Abu Dhabi, Nairobi)

Nairobi does have a later evening connection to Mumbai, which teams could've easily caught if they flew there directly from Harare at 11:45am today

Surprising amount of options depending on which way they did end up going, and IF they even left Zimbabwe today
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 17, 2017, 02:40:52 PM
how many teams are left and what leg this is
Leg 7 and 6 teams with NEL, 5 teams otherwise

Don't know either of those for sure- could be leg 8
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 17, 2017, 02:42:55 PM
If they did leave today

Joburg had some departures in the early afternoon (Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Hong Kong) that teams could make, if they were on earlier morning flights out of Harare

They also have some in the evening that could work too (Dubai, Hong Kong, Sydney, Abu Dhabi, Nairobi)

Nairobi does have a later evening connection to Mumbai, which teams could've easily caught if they flew there directly from Harare at 11:45am today

Surprising amount of options depending on which way they did end up going, and IF they even left Zimbabwe today

they didn't leave today from what I know.. were still at hotel mid day
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 02:50:12 PM
how many teams are left and what leg this is
Leg 7 and 6 teams with NEL, 5 teams otherwise

Don't know either of those for sure- could be leg 8
It very well could be. But where could that missing leg have happened ? Zmb, Prague or before !
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 17, 2017, 02:56:36 PM
If they did leave today

Joburg had some departures in the early afternoon (Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Hong Kong) that teams could make, if they were on earlier morning flights out of Harare

They also have some in the evening that could work too (Dubai, Hong Kong, Sydney, Abu Dhabi, Nairobi)

Nairobi does have a later evening connection to Mumbai, which teams could've easily caught if they flew there directly from Harare at 11:45am today

Surprising amount of options depending on which way they did end up going, and IF they even left Zimbabwe today

they didn't leave today from what I know.. were still at hotel mid day

Hmm... if you're big reveal has to do with what you're hinting at here, I think I understand a bit more why you're holding off for now  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 02:56:45 PM
Amazing Race is shot in 21/23 days usually.
So each leg takes approx 1.75 or 1.91 days. In both cases we seem to be missing ONE LEG, cuz we are now 17 days deep.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 17, 2017, 02:59:32 PM
Phil's got this hashtag he loves to use when live tweeting episodes - #12Shows21Days

But it's not always exactly that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 17, 2017, 03:00:49 PM
If they did leave today

Joburg had some departures in the early afternoon (Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Hong Kong) that teams could make, if they were on earlier morning flights out of Harare

They also have some in the evening that could work too (Dubai, Hong Kong, Sydney, Abu Dhabi, Nairobi)

Nairobi does have a later evening connection to Mumbai, which teams could've easily caught if they flew there directly from Harare at 11:45am today

Surprising amount of options depending on which way they did end up going, and IF they even left Zimbabwe today

they didn't leave today from what I know.. were still at hotel mid day

Hmm... if you're big reveal has to do with what you're hinting at here, I think I understand a bit more why you're holding off for now  ;)

I thought the big reveal was Jody getting second only seconds behind the twins.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 17, 2017, 03:03:31 PM
6 teams were confirmed for this leg that just happened so if this was leg 8 there would have to be 2 legs where there was no elimination.



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 03:09:06 PM
6 teams were confirmed for this leg that just happened so if this was leg 8 there would have to be 2 legs where there was no elimination.

For this to happen Leg 7 has to be NEL since Leg 6 was Double U-TURN.
Leg 7 has to be either from prague -> swiss or prague -> swiss -> zmb
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
Phil's got this hashtag he loves to use when live tweeting episodes - #12Shows21Days

But it's not always exactly that.

Even if you take 25 days of shooting, its still lagging behind if it was Leg 7 just completed! One leg is missing
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 17, 2017, 03:22:38 PM
If they did leave today

Joburg had some departures in the early afternoon (Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Hong Kong) that teams could make, if they were on earlier morning flights out of Harare

They also have some in the evening that could work too (Dubai, Hong Kong, Sydney, Abu Dhabi, Nairobi)

Nairobi does have a later evening connection to Mumbai, which teams could've easily caught if they flew there directly from Harare at 11:45am today

Surprising amount of options depending on which way they did end up going, and IF they even left Zimbabwe today

they didn't leave today from what I know.. were still at hotel mid day

Hmm... if you're big reveal has to do with what you're hinting at here, I think I understand a bit more why you're holding off for now  ;)

I thought the big reveal was Jody getting second only seconds behind the twins.

Was it that?

I thought we were still waiting

To me, a second-hand account of what a friend saw, with assumptions made by (seemingly) the eyewitness, the informant, and the investigator, without clear evidence/indication of what was EXACTLY seen, and how they could precisely know what order teams came in, or even the exact time frame, is just  ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 17, 2017, 03:26:55 PM
If they did leave today

Joburg had some departures in the early afternoon (Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Hong Kong) that teams could make, if they were on earlier morning flights out of Harare

They also have some in the evening that could work too (Dubai, Hong Kong, Sydney, Abu Dhabi, Nairobi)

Nairobi does have a later evening connection to Mumbai, which teams could've easily caught if they flew there directly from Harare at 11:45am today

Surprising amount of options depending on which way they did end up going, and IF they even left Zimbabwe today

they didn't leave today from what I know.. were still at hotel mid day

Hmm... if you're big reveal has to do with what you're hinting at here, I think I understand a bit more why you're holding off for now  ;)

I thought the big reveal was Jody getting second only seconds behind the twins.

Was it that?

I thought we were still waiting

To me, a second-hand account of what a friend saw, with assumptions made by (seemingly) the eyewitness, the informant, and the investigator, without clear evidence/indication of what was EXACTLY seen, and how they could precisely know what order teams came in, or even the exact time frame, is just  ???

I'm not sure why they're withholding the chats, but from what I've seen, there is more than one source -- one of whom gave the team directions shortly before that team reached the pit stop -- and at least two of the sources agree on the approximate time the team finished. I don't want to say more out of respect for these detectives who seem to want to keep it to themselves.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 17, 2017, 03:28:38 PM
6 teams were confirmed for this leg that just happened so if this was leg 8 there would have to be 2 legs where there was no elimination.

For this to happen Leg 7 has to be NEL since Leg 6 was Double U-TURN.
Wrong. Speculation.

Phil's got this hashtag he loves to use when live tweeting episodes - #12Shows21Days

But it's not always exactly that.

Even if you take 25 days of shooting, its still lagging behind if it was Leg 7 just completed! One leg is missing
There was some valid speculation that teams could have been held in Czech Republic for another day due to troubles in Zimbabwe (don't remember what exactly was going on). That could still be the case.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KittyBoo on October 17, 2017, 04:17:49 PM
So from eyewitness accounts we have Lifeguards and Skiers checking in at 1:30, then Twins, then Jody at 1:42.

Since we are going by the recollection of eyewitnesses, none of whom claim to have seen all six teams.

Proceed with caution.

No. According to our sources Jody reached at 1:42 and Lifeguards/Skiers at 2:04. These were the times at which pics were taken and NOT posted on social media.
I choose to refrain from sharing the DMs. So you have to believe our word. The sources don't want to get disclosed.

Thanks for all of you and others have done, to proactively reach out and are fortunate to have been able to connect with local eyewitnesses to give us updates! It's really appreciated!

I understand what you mentioned about sources not wanting to have their info known, or concern that they will get bombarded with questions from other excited fans. On the flip side...i also see other detectives concerned that something might be missed & analyzing the details from every angle.  :)  I hope this doesn't cause you to not want to share details in the future.   :( 

I'm wondering if a good compromise would be to share the full screenshots, details, etc with the full source info with Peach directly. This will allow her to officially authenticate the info for the group, while still protecting any sources info that don't want their name/info out there.

As what Peach says is ok is law around here...it should prevent all the back and forth and concern that something was missed.  LOL  Also...as Peach has been doing this so long and has followed the race for years through all these amazingly diverse & different counties & cultures, she may also be able to offer some advice on follow up questions on details we may not even consider, being unfamiliar with some of the native traditions or backend things that happen during the race.

Again...just a thought. I know for my part...I love the updates, but I also understand needing to be sure about the info. This method could be a win/win for everyone and would allow more details and updates to be shared and less back and forth, while keeping conversations friendly and sources protected. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 04:39:07 PM
Thank you Kitty.

BUT RFF is NOT Playing this game.

Others want to hide their info? Fine!

Odd than in all our years of TAR spoiling (including TWO high profile BB teams) many forums have found ways to work together and share info. The fun is in the search and the discovery, not in not helping each other.  Totally beyond me. I don't do this for some crazy notion of exclusivity. I do it for FUN.

This Season has not worked that way.

SO moving forward:

There will be NO posts here bringing INFO that do not name their source. EXCEPT if there are privacy concerns: Personal Request by the poster involved, security concerns, or Production concerns., or just unsure. All posts like that can def be discussed with me here by PM or on twitter and we will work it out and find a way to share info that does not involve risk to others..

But this is spoiler discussion not posting discussion, so back to searching please!

No more off topic please.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 17, 2017, 04:59:39 PM
Just read through the last 7 pages or so here.  GeorgiaPeach, I really hope I am not going off topic here at all, just trying to put together events discussed so far.  If I do, apologies and delete this, it's tricky navigating what is true and what isn't.

Stuff that jumped out at me.

A second leg here wouldn't surprise me, since as I said before, going to southern Africa and only racing in a downtown area of what looks like any big city in the world just strikes me as odd for TAR.  IF they are still there though, it could just be for flights or a rest stop?  Alternately, I could see them "racing" at night if it was an indoor or protected location, like a museum or even the race track there.

What is with so many posters here saying "we" (and definitely not meaning RFF) and I only ask this because the TeamJody15 account is suddenly protected after providing great photos all season, even if their conclusions haven't been accurate, they come up with great sightings, and now we can't see them?

HOW did they "perform a song" and all arrive nearly together at the mat?  This one really confuses me, since that kind of task tend to be "taking a turn" usually while practicing off the stage with local teachers.  From the google map link I found, that stage seems to be in the North West corner of the park, so they would have to navigate THROUGH the park as well as about 3/4 city blocks to find Phil.  BTW I agree that Phil was in front of the Econet Store for shadow searchers, but if they all came in together, seems pretty useless. 

My guess there is a possible second task, a short one, in the park, not sure if task is the right word.  What I mean is something like that sculpture garden outside the museum in the North East section of the park.  Finding a certain statue with a cryptic clue that would lead them back to First Street and Phil, and could allow teams to arrive close together, as we've seen from photos taken there.

As far as the flights, heading to Australia or New Zealand, then a hop to Asia also makes sense to me.  I really don't think they will skip Asia entirely. 

I remember at least one other another season when a leg was completely left out of the show, so I'm not going completely by "leg" numbers.  That information came from racers after the show was over.   It might have been the grandfather/grandson team.  ?  The grandson wrote the most extensive blogs about what really happens on the race I've seen, so I believed him.

SO odd we still don't know who the 6th team racing is!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 17, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
Nobody was hiding info. The problem is that sources are being hounded by tons of people. Some TAR fans, some Jody fans.

I understand why they don't want to reveal everyone's name because it freaks people out and then you lose the source.....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 17, 2017, 05:36:01 PM
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 17, 2017, 05:40:14 PM
I just want to know who the mystery team is,!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 17, 2017, 05:46:33 PM
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?

I still wonder if the delay in Prague was just because of the unrest in Harare that day.  Water Canons on street vendors, and they obviously planned to race in the city.  ?  They could have been being cautious and waiting to make sure things calmed down.  ?

I feel like they almost had to do, or will do, something else in Africa.  All the way to Africa to sing and run around a big city?  Do we know what time (local time) their plane arrived in Harare?  Or if it was a straight transfer from Johannesburg? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ChiTown on October 17, 2017, 05:52:17 PM
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?

The upcoming leg as 9 or the one that just passed? I think the leg we maybe could’ve missed would’ve been a keep on racing that makes sense
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 05:55:01 PM
Nobody was hiding info. The problem is that sources are being hounded by tons of people. Some TAR fans, some Jody fans.

I understand why they don't want to reveal everyone's name because it freaks people out and then you lose the source.....
And that is always fine. Protecting sources is always good. I would be freaked out too if 100 JODY fans cam screaming at me, that's why we tend to let one person do the asking.

But that is info that could be shared privatey w/me and then we could accept the info and help take the search down other avenues.

But please guys, we are NOT continuing this discussion in the TAR threads.

Move on, okay?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 05:58:03 PM
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?

I still wonder if the delay in Prague was just because of the unrest in Harare that day.  Water Canons on street vendors, and they obviously planned to race in the city.  ?  They could have been being cautious and waiting to make sure things calmed down.  ?

I feel like they almost had to do, or will do, something else in Africa.  All the way to Africa to sing and run around a big city?  Do we know what time (local time) their plane arrived in Harare?  Or if it was a straight transfer from Johannesburg? 

All the flight info has been posted. The unrest could have caused a delay, or perhaps they were misguidedly trying to clean up before TAR arrived, we don't know.


Will be interested to see what happens next!
We NEVER have a 100% of every leg spoiled. Leaving some things unspoiled keeps it fun!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 05:59:53 PM
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?
Prague: I think a second short leg, but maybe not.

Zimb: we don't know yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 06:00:52 PM
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?

The upcoming leg as 9 or the one that just passed? I think the leg we maybe could’ve missed would’ve been a keep on racing that makes sense

In Prague?  we saw the MAT+ Greeter right?? , so unlikely.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 06:15:14 PM
Right, this may seems CRAZY to some people but makes sense to me:

What if there were 2 legs in and around Prague and 2 legs in Zimbabwe?

This would make what they are departing today Leg NINE!

October 15, Prague to Zurich flight then to Zimbabwe. There is our first Zimbabwe leg. The 'shadow' leg is then our second leg.

As for Prague, we think it was an extended Pit Stop right? What if it was another leg in a small town?

What do we think?

The upcoming leg as 9 or the one that just passed? I think the leg we maybe could’ve missed would’ve been a keep on racing that makes sense

In Prague?  we saw the MAT+ Greeter right?? , so unlikely.
Zim is the only possibility then, if at all there's a missing leg. Maybe it happened at outskirts of city (maybe a village like TAR20 Tanzania Leg) cuz going all the way to a south african nation just to shoot one leg and that too around a city seems very absurd.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 17, 2017, 06:35:18 PM
So we never got the flight from Zurich to Harara or Johannesburg, or I've just missed it?  It's not in the timeline thread that I can see.  Sorry if I'm being blind here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 17, 2017, 06:38:32 PM
So we never got the flight from Zurich to Harara or Johannesburg, or I've just missed it?  It's not in the timeline thread that I can see.  Sorry if I'm being blind here.
Zurich to Johannesburg they arrived at around 8 am. Johannesburg to Harare was flight SAA
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 17, 2017, 06:39:28 PM
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1209480.html#msg1209480

If this is the actual flight, it would be really strange if they only raced on the 16th.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 17, 2017, 06:54:38 PM
On one of the first sightings at the Harare airport on Facebook, one of the replies mentioned a Lodge and a 4x4 adventure. I'm thinking they may be doing a second Zimbabwe leg out at a remote lodge interacting with elephants and hyenas and stuff like that. The one problem with this is that time in the normal 21 days is running short. A second leg in the bush probably requires an earlier missing leg in Czechia.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 17, 2017, 06:55:58 PM
ALL good^^

Just read through the last 7 pages or so here.  GeorgiaPeach, I really hope I am not going off topic here at all, just trying to put together events discussed so far.  If I do, apologies and delete this, it's tricky navigating what is true and what isn't.

Stuff that jumped out at me.

A second leg here wouldn't surprise me, since as I said before, going to southern Africa and only racing in a downtown area of what looks like any big city in the world just strikes me as odd for TAR.  IF they are still there though, it could just be for flights or a rest stop?  Alternately, I could see them "racing" at night if it was an indoor or protected location, like a museum or even the race track there.

What is with so many posters here saying "we" (and definitely not meaning RFF) and I only ask this because the TeamJody15 account is suddenly protected after providing great photos all season, even if their conclusions haven't been accurate, they come up with great sightings, and now we can't see them?

HOW did they "perform a song" and all arrive nearly together at the mat?  This one really confuses me, since that kind of task tend to be "taking a turn" usually while practicing off the stage with local teachers.  From the google map link I found, that stage seems to be in the North West corner of the park, so they would have to navigate THROUGH the park as well as about 3/4 city blocks to find Phil.  BTW I agree that Phil was in front of the Econet Store for shadow searchers, but if they all came in together, seems pretty useless. 

My guess there is a possible second task, a short one, in the park, not sure if task is the right word.  What I mean is something like that sculpture garden outside the museum in the North East section of the park.  Finding a certain statue with a cryptic clue that would lead them back to First Street and Phil, and could allow teams to arrive close together, as we've seen from photos taken there.

As far as the flights, heading to Australia or New Zealand, then a hop to Asia also makes sense to me.  I really don't think they will skip Asia entirely. 

I remember at least one other another season when a leg was completely left out of the show, so I'm not going completely by "leg" numbers.  That information came from racers after the show was over.   It might have been the grandfather/grandson team.  ?  The grandson wrote the most extensive blogs about what really happens on the race I've seen, so I believed him.

SO odd we still don't know who the 6th team racing is!


You are all good!

I think the song was a Detour. So one of two choices. The photo of that law building looks like a made to order rappelling site to me! (guess get a clue or RB maybe??)

Don't understand the delay in Prague either UNLESS the Harare city clean up was a problem. Or perhaps there was no delay and we missed a second leg in Cz,  Will be fun to see!



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 17, 2017, 07:02:51 PM
On one of the first sightings at the Harare airport on Facebook, one of the replies mentioned a Lodge and a 4x4 adventure. I'm thinking they may be doing a second Zimbabwe leg out at a remote lodge interacting with elephants and hyenas and stuff like that. The one problem with this is that time in the normal 21 days is running short. A second leg in the bush probably requires an earlier missing leg in Czechia.

That FB mention made me wonder of a possible lodge/4x4 just outside of the city, but I thought the tourist roadblocks might pose a problem.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 17, 2017, 07:03:29 PM
Apparently there's flights from South Africa straight over to Australia. That would be an interesting shakeup in the standard route pattern. But, expecting somewhere in Asia to be more likely next.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 07:10:30 PM
On one of the first sightings at the Harare airport on Facebook, one of the replies mentioned a Lodge and a 4x4 adventure. I'm thinking they may be doing a second Zimbabwe leg out at a remote lodge interacting with elephants and hyenas and stuff like that. The one problem with this is that time in the normal 21 days is running short. A second leg in the bush probably requires an earlier missing leg in Czechia.

That FB mention made me wonder of a possible lodge/4x4 just outside of the city, but I thought the tourist roadblocks might pose a problem.

He mentioned that they were filming the adventure at lodge. So we have to assume that something was up. Also he wasn't allowed to share which lodge! So he must have been part of the local crew there. I tried contacting him but got no response. We can't and should not eliminate a possibility of a leg there. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 17, 2017, 07:11:10 PM
The 21 Days thing is actually not common. Seasons will often go to 23-24 days
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 07:14:20 PM
Apparently there's flights from South Africa straight over to Australia. That would be an interesting shakeup in the standard route pattern. But, expecting somewhere in Asia to be more likely next.
An oceanian nation was last visited 8 years back! But hey its the 30th season. They might as well throw in one this time round thereby making it special & memorable.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 17, 2017, 07:34:15 PM
He mentioned that they were filming the adventure at lodge. So we have to assume that something was up. Also he wasn't allowed to share which lodge! So he must have been part of the local crew there. I tried contacting him but got no response. We can't and should not eliminate a possibility of a leg there. 
They arrived late afternoon in Harare. Perhaps there was an Hours of Operation at the lodge, and they did the adventure early the next morning, then finished the leg in town that afternoon.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 17, 2017, 07:35:42 PM
He mentioned that they were filming the adventure at lodge. So we have to assume that something was up. Also he wasn't allowed to share which lodge! So he must have been part of the local crew there. I tried contacting him but got no response. We can't and should not eliminate a possibility of a leg there. 
They arrived late afternoon in Harare. Perhaps there was an Hours of Operation at the lodge, and they did the adventure early the next morning, then finished the leg in town that afternoon.

You are probably right, Chill. See my post (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33367.msg1209480.html#msg1209480) at the Transportation thread.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 07:41:10 PM
He mentioned that they were filming the adventure at lodge. So we have to assume that something was up. Also he wasn't allowed to share which lodge! So he must have been part of the local crew there. I tried contacting him but got no response. We can't and should not eliminate a possibility of a leg there. 
They arrived late afternoon in Harare. Perhaps there was an Hours of Operation at the lodge, and they did the adventure early the next morning, then finished the leg in town that afternoon.
Also since we know for a fact that zmb city leg had 6 teams, so if a leg happened b4 that, we know for sure it must have been NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 17, 2017, 08:50:50 PM
He mentioned that they were filming the adventure at lodge. So we have to assume that something was up. Also he wasn't allowed to share which lodge! So he must have been part of the local crew there. I tried contacting him but got no response. We can't and should not eliminate a possibility of a leg there. 
They arrived late afternoon in Harare. Perhaps there was an Hours of Operation at the lodge, and they did the adventure early the next morning, then finished the leg in town that afternoon.
Also since we know for a fact that zmb city leg had 6 teams, so if a leg happened b4 that, we know for sure it must have been NEL.

We don't though? If the Zimbabwe leg is an NEL we could easily have a situation like

leg 3 in Tangier - 9 to 9 (Basketball last)
leg 4 in St. Tropez - 9 to 8
leg 5 in Arles - 8 to 7
leg 6 in Prague - 7 to 7
leg 7 in Czechia somewhere - 7 to 6
leg 8 in Zimbabwe - 6 to 6
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 17, 2017, 09:16:59 PM
He mentioned that they were filming the adventure at lodge. So we have to assume that something was up. Also he wasn't allowed to share which lodge! So he must have been part of the local crew there. I tried contacting him but got no response. We can't and should not eliminate a possibility of a leg there. 
They arrived late afternoon in Harare. Perhaps there was an Hours of Operation at the lodge, and they did the adventure early the next morning, then finished the leg in town that afternoon.
Also since we know for a fact that zmb city leg had 6 teams, so if a leg happened b4 that, we know for sure it must have been NEL.

We don't though? If the Zimbabwe leg is an NEL we could easily have a situation like

leg 3 in Tangier - 9 to 9 (Basketball last)
leg 4 in St. Tropez - 9 to 8
leg 5 in Arles - 8 to 7
leg 6 in Prague - 7 to 7
leg 7 in Czechia somewhere - 7 to 6
leg 8 in Zimbabwe - 6 to 6

Chances of Leg 6 being NEL is close to slim cuz it was the Double U-Turn Leg. So 6/8 won't be NELs.
Only 7, 9, 10 are the only plausible options out of which two must have been predetermined as NELs.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 17, 2017, 09:25:34 PM
Has anyone considered they filmed Leg 7 out in rural Zimbabwe on Oct. 15th and filmed Leg 8 in the city yesterday?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 17, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
Has anyone considered they filmed Leg 7 out in rural Zimbabwe on Oct. 15th and filmed Leg 8 in the city yesterday?

Possible, it might also be why we haven't seen the sixth racer yet. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 17, 2017, 10:00:14 PM
Has anyone considered they filmed Leg 7 out in rural Zimbabwe on Oct. 15th and filmed Leg 8 in the city yesterday?

Yep! See my post on the next page
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 17, 2017, 10:28:00 PM
Has anyone considered they filmed Leg 7 out in rural Zimbabwe on Oct. 15th and filmed Leg 8 in the city yesterday?

Yep! See my post on the next page

I think it's more likely, but I also believe in this case the Czech Republic itself only hosted one leg. There has to be some breakup between doubling up in a country. Who knows though, that might be an answer we get later on haha.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 17, 2017, 11:01:48 PM
Thinking about it, I'm SPECULATING that we have a timeline like

- Oct 12 - leg 6 in Prague - someone (probably Violinists) eliminated in seventh place
- Oct 13 - extended pit stop for teams / Phil flies to Zimbabwe
- Oct 14 - teams travel to Zimbabwe
- Oct 15 - leg 7 near Harare - "keep on racing"; teams encounter an hours of operation bunch
- Oct 16 - leg 8 in Harare - someone eliminated in sixth place
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: naejae91 on October 18, 2017, 12:58:37 AM
Zack speculation was more logical since they need to spend least 1-2 days for cross continent jump and Phil might not have enough buffer to arrive Zimbabwe earlier if the missing leg was second CZ leg.


Expect 1-2 days off happen again very soon for another cross continent jump.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 18, 2017, 03:27:42 AM
Options from Harare today:
Many flights into Joburg throughout the day
1 to Nairobi at 11:45am

From Joburg:
Sao Paulo, Brazil at 11am (unlikely, but hey?)
Hong Kong, China at 12:30pm and 5:20pm
Doha, Qatar at 1:15pm
Dubai, UAE at 1:40pm
Singapore at 1:45pm
Mahe Island, Maldives at 1:45pm
Istanbul, Turkey at 6:20pm (unlikely)

From Nairobi:
Dubai, UAE at 4:35pm and 6:55pm
Doha, Qatar at 5:35pm and 8:10pm
Istanbul, Turkey at 8:50pm (unlikely)
Mumbai, India at 8:55pm

Doha and Mumbai both have connections to Kathmandu in the morning (19th) that could get teams there around 11am, Dubai has connections that could get them into India to possibly connect there as well.

Another option that stuck out to me was the Maldives- could be a good place for a tropical leg near the end, since the South Pacific seems less and less likely

Both Singapore and Hong Kong could host legs, but also could be perfect transfer points for other SE Asian countries
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: redskevin88 on October 18, 2017, 04:07:38 AM
Doha and Mumbai both have connections to Kathmandu in the morning (19th) that could get teams there around 11am, Dubai has connections that could get them into India to possibly connect there as well.

Another option that stuck out to me was the Maldives- could be a good place for a tropical leg near the end, since the South Pacific seems less and less likely

Both Singapore and Hong Kong could host legs, but also could be perfect transfer points for other SE Asian countries

The Maldives is unstable at the moment, the dictator in charge is kind of unstable.

There are connecting flights via Addis Abba/Dar Es Salaam/Nairobi and Doha/Mumbai to Kathmandu.

There are also flights via Johannesburg and Hong Kong to Taipei.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 18, 2017, 04:50:21 AM
I mean there's at least one confirmed leg in Harare despite what people were reading about water cannons earlier in the week so, short of active unrest or faulty infrastructure, we can't rule many places out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 18, 2017, 05:04:55 AM
A woman in Harare who posted a photo of the filming said she did the paperwork and knew that they were coming months ago. I'm assuming that it's standard practice for production to make arrangements to visit a country months in advance.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 18, 2017, 08:31:13 AM
Options from Harare today:
Many flights into Joburg throughout the day
1 to Nairobi at 11:45am

From Joburg:
Sao Paulo, Brazil at 11am (unlikely, but hey?)
Hong Kong, China at 12:30pm and 5:20pm
Doha, Qatar at 1:15pm
Dubai, UAE at 1:40pm
Singapore at 1:45pm
Mahe Island, Maldives at 1:45pm
Istanbul, Turkey at 6:20pm (unlikely)

From Nairobi:
Dubai, UAE at 4:35pm and 6:55pm
Doha, Qatar at 5:35pm and 8:10pm
Istanbul, Turkey at 8:50pm (unlikely)
Mumbai, India at 8:55pm

Doha and Mumbai both have connections to Kathmandu in the morning (19th) that could get teams there around 11am, Dubai has connections that could get them into India to possibly connect there as well.

Another option that stuck out to me was the Maldives- could be a good place for a tropical leg near the end, since the South Pacific seems less and less likely

Both Singapore and Hong Kong could host legs, but also could be perfect transfer points for other SE Asian countries

Dubai would be an awesome place for them to go and to see on TAR
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 08:49:31 AM


Chances of Leg 6 being NEL is close to slim cuz it was the Double U-Turn Leg. So 6/8 won't be NELs.

Y'all help me? Didn't TAR Canada or someone recently do a NEL on a U Turn leg? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 08:50:32 AM
Thinking about it, I'm SPECULATING that we have a timeline like

- Oct 12 - leg 6 in Prague - someone (probably Violinists) eliminated in seventh place
- Oct 13 - extended pit stop for teams / Phil flies to Zimbabwe
- Oct 14 - teams travel to Zimbabwe
- Oct 15 - leg 7 near Harare - "keep on racing"; teams encounter an hours of operation bunch
- Oct 16 - leg 8 in Harare - someone eliminated in sixth place

I like this.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 08:53:52 AM


Chances of Leg 6 being NEL is close to slim cuz it was the Double U-Turn Leg. So 6/8 won't be NELs.

Y'all help me? Didn't TAR Canada or someone recently do a NEL on a U Turn leg? ???
TAR27 did a KOR on a Double U-Turn leg in Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 18, 2017, 09:05:34 AM
Thinking about it, I'm SPECULATING that we have a timeline like

- Oct 12 - leg 6 in Prague - someone (probably Violinists) eliminated in seventh place
- Oct 13 - extended pit stop for teams / Phil flies to Zimbabwe
- Oct 14 - teams travel to Zimbabwe
- Oct 15 - leg 7 near Harare - "keep on racing"; teams encounter an hours of operation bunch
- Oct 16 - leg 8 in Harare - someone eliminated in sixth place

I really like the keep on racing speculation in leg 7. Id been thinking that myself .
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amcelwee on October 18, 2017, 09:05:57 AM
Bahrain!!!!
https://twitter.com/ffsEman
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 09:09:04 AM
Bahrain!!!!
https://twitter.com/ffsEman

Hats off! That was quick ;)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 09:11:19 AM


Chances of Leg 6 being NEL is close to slim cuz it was the Double U-Turn Leg. So 6/8 won't be NELs.

Y'all help me? Didn't TAR Canada or someone recently do a NEL on a U Turn leg? ???
TAR27 did a KOR on a Double U-Turn leg in Zimbabwe.

What I meant was that 2nd/3rd NELs have never occurred with a uturn embedded in the leg. 1st NEL has, TAR27 is an example for that!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 18, 2017, 09:11:46 AM


Chances of Leg 6 being NEL is close to slim cuz it was the Double U-Turn Leg. So 6/8 won't be NELs.

Y'all help me? Didn't TAR Canada or someone recently do a NEL on a U Turn leg? ???
TAR27 did a KOR on a Double U-Turn leg in Zimbabwe.

Yes TarCan did, Leg 6 in Ottawa.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 09:13:45 AM


Chances of Leg 6 being NEL is close to slim cuz it was the Double U-Turn Leg. So 6/8 won't be NELs.

Y'all help me? Didn't TAR Canada or someone recently do a NEL on a U Turn leg? ???
TAR27 did a KOR on a Double U-Turn leg in Zimbabwe.

Yes TarCan did, Leg 6 in Ottawa.

I said chances were slim. Secondly that happened in canadian version, NOT in US one
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 18, 2017, 09:14:16 AM
From the spec thread:

Bahrain!!!!
https://twitter.com/ffsEman

40‏ @ffsEman 1 h

I JUST REALLY CANT WAIT @Salah_AlSayed93

(https://image.ibb.co/b94Sam/DMa_85n_X4_AAXLVP.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: smiley on October 18, 2017, 09:14:32 AM
So great you found the next location this is exciting. Way to go RFF!

We still don’t know if it’s Bahrain
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 18, 2017, 09:14:37 AM
Bahrain!!!!
https://twitter.com/ffsEman

Hats off! That was quick ;)

Sorry to burst bubbles, but a quick Google search reveals this is Canada.

https://theworldgoespop.com/2014/09/21/off-to-the-finish-line-with-amazing-race-canada/clue-box-parliament-hill/

The photo is the exact same. I had my doubts when I saw the Canada flag at the top :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 18, 2017, 09:14:55 AM
Hum... that's the Canadian Parlement in Ottawa... was for Leg 6 of The Amazing race canada 5
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 18, 2017, 09:16:28 AM
Hum... that's the Canadian Parlement in Ottawa... was for Leg 6 of The Amazing race canada 5

This. While it's puzzling how someone with their location in Bahrain would post it, this is definitely not us.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 18, 2017, 09:17:45 AM
Bahrain!!!!
https://twitter.com/ffsEman

Hats off! That was quick ;)

Sorry to burst bubbles, but a quick Google search reveals this is Canada.

https://theworldgoespop.com/2014/09/21/off-to-the-finish-line-with-amazing-race-canada/clue-box-parliament-hill/

The photo is the exact same. I had my doubts when I saw the Canada flag at the top :lol:

When I first looked at the photo, I realized that only Canada would have that building. Architecture like that doesn't exist in Bahrain...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 09:24:47 AM
Bahrain!!!!
https://twitter.com/ffsEman

Hats off! That was quick ;)

Sorry to burst bubbles, but a quick Google search reveals this is Canada.

https://theworldgoespop.com/2014/09/21/off-to-the-finish-line-with-amazing-race-canada/clue-box-parliament-hill/

The photo is the exact same. I had my doubts when I saw the Canada flag at the top :lol:

When I first looked at the photo, I realized that only Canada would have that building. Architecture like that doesn't exist in Bahrain...

Damn! And Bahrain has never been visited also.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 09:27:43 AM
I know I got excited. Would have been very cool! And it made sense for them to travel that way but Oh well. Back to hunting.  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 09:31:41 AM
Okay thanks guys!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I never really thought of a no rest leg.

That would be a way to quickly bump the leg count up and make this one leg 9..

The last 3 seasons have all had one during the middle of the game so maybe this one did too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 18, 2017, 09:34:15 AM
Or maybe that Bahrain tweet just searched & posted the first Amazing Race clue box pic she liked.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: muninayo on October 18, 2017, 09:49:50 AM
that's a Canadian flag on top of the tower
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 09:52:14 AM
Well, one thing for sure...y'all are awake NOW!! :funny:

Thanks everyone, we got it. :-[
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
Damn, I got so excited as well.
But Bahrain makes SO much sense to me...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 18, 2017, 12:16:55 PM
Or maybe that Bahrain tweet just searched & posted the first Amazing Race clue box pic she liked.
That was my first thought.  Maybe she knows they're coming there, and just googled a picture to post as a hint.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 12:44:24 PM
Or maybe that Bahrain tweet just searched & posted the first Amazing Race clue box pic she liked.
That was my first thought.  Maybe she knows they're coming there, and just googled a picture to post as a hint.

This has me thinking now lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 18, 2017, 12:55:29 PM
Or maybe that Bahrain tweet just searched & posted the first Amazing Race clue box pic she liked.
That was my first thought.  Maybe she knows they're coming there, and just googled a picture to post as a hint.

This has me thinking now lol.
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Or maybe she is just a fan of TAR canada.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 18, 2017, 01:38:43 PM
Or is about to fly to Canada.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 18, 2017, 01:40:59 PM
Moving on...If they're in Asia, next leg could even start tonight in their time. Have been checking :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: JaKAsK on October 18, 2017, 02:10:14 PM
I have been checking Asia, Australia, all kinds of weird things - being new to the TAR spoilers, is this an abnormally long stretch with no new tangible news (or does it really depend on the social media activity of the locations they are in?)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 18, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
So, Canada and Bahrain are 'fake news' right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 18, 2017, 03:12:17 PM
So, Canada and Bahrain are 'fake news' right?

LOL YES PRESIDENT FULL CRAB TRUMP
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 03:17:05 PM
Both. This next leg will be a long haul. Chances are good they are flying now, some of production was in transit yesterday.

Possible/probable
I have been checking Asia, Australia, all kinds of weird things - being new to the TAR spoilers, is this an abnormally long stretch with no new tangible news (or does it really depend on the social media activity of the locations they are in?)


Both. This next leg will be a long haul. Chances are good they are flying now, some of production was in transit yesterday.

Katmandu remains a STRONG possibility. As does Taipei.


Others include Myanmar, Sydney, Perth.

Katmandu would bring me GREAT JOY!!




Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 18, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
I'm thinking Nepal too Peach.

We haven't had sightings for two days! People in Nepal are not the best in terms of money, so they may not have mobile phones, which means no pictures on social media we can find!

That would made us now on Leg 9?? I mean, the final two legs could go ANYWHERE!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 03:24:29 PM
I'm thinking Nepal too Peach.

We haven't had sightings for two days! People in Nepal are not the best in terms of money, so they may not have mobile phones, which means no pictures on social media we can find!

That would made us now on Leg 9?? I mean, the final two legs could go ANYWHERE!


Ummm...they wouldn't be there yet. lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amcelwee on October 18, 2017, 03:27:59 PM
Hey Y'all,  Just wanting to let you know I didn't purposefully mislead to Bahrain.  Seemed legitimate from where I was sitting.  (Bahrain flag is red and white as well and my monitor isn't that big).  Anyway, sorry for the misdirection!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 18, 2017, 03:30:15 PM
I'm thinking Nepal too Peach.

We haven't had sightings for two days! People in Nepal are not the best in terms of money, so they may not have mobile phones, which means no pictures on social media we can find!

That would made us now on Leg 9?? I mean, the final two legs could go ANYWHERE!



Ummm...they wouldn't be there yet. lol

They wouldn't. Though I agree with Nepal as I keep remembering Elise hinting towards it by replying to that tweet before they left.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 03:38:48 PM
Hey Y'all,  Just wanting to let you know I didn't purposefully mislead to Bahrain.  Seemed legitimate from where I was sitting.  (Bahrain flag is red and white as well and my monitor isn't that big).  Anyway, sorry for the misdirection!
It's alright, it seemed like a legit sighting to many of us at first. :)
Nobody holds you at fault or anything, that's why we always double-check - to avoid mistakes (that sometimes happen anyway lol).

Keep going with the search!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 18, 2017, 03:41:51 PM
Well there isnt much time left in a the race (less than a week) so the next 2 legs better happen quickly.

Isn't there some festival in Kathmandu at the moment?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 03:50:45 PM
I am starting to believe this is leg 9 coming up and we missed a NEL or even more likely a No rest leg somewhere..

if this is only 8 they would be rushed to even make 24/25 days at this point.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 04:55:12 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodyfan on October 18, 2017, 05:02:29 PM
Looks like Jody was  u turned and twins eliminated? On to next leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 18, 2017, 05:13:32 PM
U turned and survive? <3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 18, 2017, 05:15:45 PM
M/F team was u-turned, M/M elimated, teams are now in flight to next destination?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 18, 2017, 05:17:16 PM
I could also type out emojis and sell them as fact. If someone has something to back that up please share.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 05:19:25 PM
If it's the final 5 are all non elimination legs over?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 05:20:23 PM
If it's the final 5 are all non elimination legs over?

no there could stil very likely be one more.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 05:23:59 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?

4th. not sure who u turned them though... but do know a male male team beat jody by just seconds, so would be the mystery team of violin, eaters or indy whoever..... since twins eliminated
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 05:28:21 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?

4th. not sure who u turned them though... but do know a male male team beat jody by just seconds, so would be the mystery team of violin, eaters or indy whoever..... since twins eliminated


You mean Jody got 4th not 5th?   
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 18, 2017, 05:29:44 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?
   
 
Now you know that this cannot be true because JodysCrew was insisting the last few days that Jody was 2nd to the pit stop behind the twins and for heaven sakes, they could not have been wrong. :funny: They even said they had eye witnesses to verify it. Now they are posting that Twins are eliminated & Jody was u-turned. I wonder which version is the actual truth.  :groan:
 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 05:35:10 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?
   
 
Now you know that this cannot be true because JodysCrew was insisting the last few days that Jody was 2nd to the pit stop behind the twins and for heaven sakes, they could not have been wrong. :funny: They even said they had eye witnesses to verify it. Now they are posting that Twins are eliminated & Jody was u-turned. I wonder which version is the actual truth.  :groan:
 

thats the thing about relying on sources who are kinda clueless... you have to compile info from multiple and put things together. some only see one thing and they don't know any better... so on thinking 2nd..  we were told they were just behind a male male team and it was the first teams they saw.

the u turn info we sat on for a while.. but that was our most reliable source for reasons I don't really want to say because they could get someone in trouble. but they also came back to us with the solid info of where they were staying, how many teams, who was eliminated, the u turn and the place of jess and Cody.

we will be posting some screenshots of convo soon.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 18, 2017, 05:36:09 PM
maybe it is the second leg in Harare he is referring to?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?

4th. not sure who u turned them though... but do know a male male team beat jody by just seconds, so would be the mystery team of violin, eaters or indy whoever..... since twins eliminated


You mean Jody got 4th not 5th?

yes
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 05:38:07 PM
maybe it is the second leg in Harare he is referring to?

I wouldn't be shocked if they had 2 legs there or a continue racing... timing is a bit weird...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 18, 2017, 05:38:15 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?

4th. not sure who u turned them though... but do know a male male team beat jody by just seconds, so would be the mystery team of violin, eaters or indy whoever..... since twins eliminated


You mean Jody got 4th not 5th?

yes

Do you have info on the placement of the other teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 05:39:35 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?

4th. not sure who u turned them though... but do know a male male team beat jody by just seconds, so would be the mystery team of violin, eaters or indy whoever..... since twins eliminated


You mean Jody got 4th not 5th?

yes

so if that is all true it sounds like the order of the last leg would be

1)Lifeguards,  2) Ski girls,  3) Mystery M/M team   4) Jody   5)Debators   6)Twins.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 18, 2017, 05:39:54 PM
What about the debaters ? When did they get in?

We saw Skiers, lifeguards, jody, twins.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 18, 2017, 05:40:40 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?

4th. not sure who u turned them though... but do know a male male team beat jody by just seconds, so would be the mystery team of violin, eaters or indy whoever..... since twins eliminated


You mean Jody got 4th not 5th?

yes

so if that is all true it sounds like the order of the last leg would be

1)Lifeguards,  2) Ski girls,  3) Mystery M/M team   4) Jody   5)Debators   6)Twins.

but the twins were in the picture with jody?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 18, 2017, 05:43:57 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?
   
 
Now you know that this cannot be true because JodysCrew was insisting the last few days that Jody was 2nd to the pit stop behind the twins and for heaven sakes, they could not have been wrong. :funny: They even said they had eye witnesses to verify it. Now they are posting that Twins are eliminated & Jody was u-turned. I wonder which version is the actual truth.  :groan:
 

thats the thing about relying on sources who are kinda clueless... you have to compile info from multiple and put things together. some only see one thing and they don't know any better... so on thinking 2nd..  we were told they were just behind a male male team and it was the first teams they saw.

the u turn info we sat on for a while.. but that was our most reliable source for reasons I don't really want to say because they could get someone in trouble. but they also came back to us with the solid info of where they were staying, how many teams, who was eliminated, the u turn and the place of jess and Cody.

we will be posting some screenshots of convo soon.
   
 
Well I am just a dumb jock from small town Louisiana and I guess I was raised on proof & confirmation. When someone insists on 1 thing one day & tells a whole nother story the next, it is hard to get a good grip on whats true & whats BS. just saying
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 18, 2017, 05:44:50 PM
maybe it is the second leg in Harare he is referring to?

I wouldn't be shocked if they had 2 legs there or a continue racing... timing is a bit weird...
So u r talking about the leg that we have so many sightings of pictures? Not a new leg then
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 05:45:36 PM


we will be posting some screenshots of convo soon.

Like THAT is a good idea. Good way to expose a source to risk. :res:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 05:47:13 PM
but the twins were in the picture with jody?
When?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 18, 2017, 05:47:21 PM
This season has more sources that must be kept confidential that the previous 29 seasons combined. It's very strange.

Also, if you have a source that says an M/M team just beat Jody to the mat, why can't he describe the M/M team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 18, 2017, 05:47:41 PM
What do you think?    ???

10/15 Teams arrive in Harare late afternoon, spend night in lodge
10/16 Leg 7 in Harare: Song task, NEL
10/17 Leg 8 Rural Zimbabwe: U-Turn x2
10/18 Leg 9: Onward to next destination

I have a hard time believing that there was a quick leg on the 15th due to the last visit to Zimbabwe. Teams arrived in Zimbabwe in the afternoon, but due to the KOR production most likely didn't want teams racing at night. So, teams had to spend the night at Shoestrings before continuing the race. I'm sensing similar safety precautions for TAR 30.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 18, 2017, 05:47:52 PM


we will be posting some screenshots of convo soon.

Like THAT is a good idea. Good way to expose a source to risk. :res:

Redact the names and photos before posting?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 18, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?
   
 
Now you know that this cannot be true because JodysCrew was insisting the last few days that Jody was 2nd to the pit stop behind the twins and for heaven sakes, they could not have been wrong. :funny: They even said they had eye witnesses to verify it. Now they are posting that Twins are eliminated & Jody was u-turned. I wonder which version is the actual truth.  :groan:
 

thats the thing about relying on sources who are kinda clueless... you have to compile info from multiple and put things together. some only see one thing and they don't know any better... so on thinking 2nd..  we were told they were just behind a male male team and it was the first teams they saw.

the u turn info we sat on for a while.. but that was our most reliable source for reasons I don't really want to say because they could get someone in trouble. but they also came back to us with the solid info of where they were staying, how many teams, who was eliminated, the u turn and the place of jess and Cody.

we will be posting some screenshots of convo soon.
you were so adamant.. they were 2nd showing your bias, to the point to where you were discrediting people who have experience analyzing shadows lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 05:49:49 PM
you were so adamant.. they were 2nd showing your bias, to the point to where you were discrediting people who have experience analyzing shadows lol
But the shadows were irrelvant? Nothing came of that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
↪️👫 ..... 👬😵..... ✈️ 🌏

what does that mean?..

That Jody and the twins were actually the last 2 teams to arrive to the pitstop.. Jody got uturned by somebody (possibly violinists as payback) and twins got last (possibly eliminated).. and Now they are on to the next leg?
   
 
Now you know that this cannot be true because JodysCrew was insisting the last few days that Jody was 2nd to the pit stop behind the twins and for heaven sakes, they could not have been wrong. :funny: They even said they had eye witnesses to verify it. Now they are posting that Twins are eliminated & Jody was u-turned. I wonder which version is the actual truth.  :groan:
 

thats the thing about relying on sources who are kinda clueless... you have to compile info from multiple and put things together. some only see one thing and they don't know any better... so on thinking 2nd..  we were told they were just behind a male male team and it was the first teams they saw.

the u turn info we sat on for a while.. but that was our most reliable source for reasons I don't really want to say because they could get someone in trouble. but they also came back to us with the solid info of where they were staying, how many teams, who was eliminated, the u turn and the place of jess and Cody.

we will be posting some screenshots of convo soon.
Thank you for the new information, dan!
Looking forward to seeing the screenshots of the convo with your source.

See, what you said right here is what the people here at RFF have been trying to tell some of you new guys here.
We're not saying any of the information provided is false, but we just don't accept it at face value if there isn't enough proof (or if there is a scenario where the SOURCE is wrong).
Don't mean this in a rude way, but it turns out that Chateau's shadow analysis was indeed right. And I saw some very disrespectful comments about that wholeprocedure....



we will be posting some screenshots of convo soon.

Like THAT is a good idea. Good way to expose a source to risk. :res:
There are ways to post conversations without revealing any private information that could be used to identify the person. ;D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 18, 2017, 05:51:14 PM
you were so adamant.. they were 2nd showing your bias, to the point to where you were discrediting people who have experience analyzing shadows lol
But the shadows were irrelvant? Nothing came of that.
Actually, they came to the conclusion that Lifeguards/Skiers were first to the mat before Jody, but people decided to ignore that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 05:53:33 PM
They can post convos and block out names and photos. That won't burn a source
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 18, 2017, 05:55:15 PM
What do you think?    ???

10/15 Teams arrive in Harare late afternoon, spend night in lodge
10/16 Leg 7 in Harare: Song task, NEL
10/17 Leg 8 Rural Zimbabwe: U-Turn x2
10/18 Leg 9: Onward to next destination

I have a hard time believing that there was a quick leg on the 15th due to the last visit to Zimbabwe. Teams arrived in Zimbabwe in the afternoon, but due to the KOR production most likely didn't want teams racing at night. So, teams had to spend the night at Shoestrings before continuing the race. I'm sensing similar safety precautions for TAR 30.

So you are saying they were at Victoria Falls?  This lodge?  https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293761-d317533-Reviews-Shoestrings_Backpackers_Lodge-Victoria_Falls_Matabeleland_North_Province.html

http://www.victoriafalls-guide.net/shoestrings.html

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 05:56:31 PM
I could also type out emojis and sell them as fact. If someone has something to back that up please share.

Teams Left this AM.

Some Production flew out last evening via Dubai.

Lifeguards first to arrive at PitStop.

Twins sadly eliminated.

Possible next locations already posted earlier today.



Assume:

Based on photo evidence Skiers second.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Zimbabwe/th_Zim%20Pitstop.jpg) (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/ga--peach/media/TAR%2030/Zimbabwe/Zim%20Pitstop.jpg.html)

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 05:57:18 PM
They can post convos and block out names and photos. That won't burn a source
Please read this post again: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1209763.html#msg1209763

There are 2 very clear and important conclusions:
1 then 2 Teams [Lifeguards and Skiers] on Mat Approx 1240-140
Team Jody on MAT 250-350


EDIT: well, now that you've edited your post completely, I suppose you've realized that. :lol:
This can be deleted, Peach.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 05:57:30 PM
^ Are you going to share a source, Peach?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 18, 2017, 06:00:20 PM
What do you think?    ???

10/15 Teams arrive in Harare late afternoon, spend night in lodge
10/16 Leg 7 in Harare: Song task, NEL
10/17 Leg 8 Rural Zimbabwe: U-Turn x2
10/18 Leg 9: Onward to next destination

I have a hard time believing that there was a quick leg on the 15th due to the last visit to Zimbabwe. Teams arrived in Zimbabwe in the afternoon, but due to the KOR production most likely didn't want teams racing at night. So, teams had to spend the night at Shoestrings before continuing the race. I'm sensing similar safety precautions for TAR 30.

So you are saying they were at Victoria Falls?  This lodge?  https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293761-d317533-Reviews-Shoestrings_Backpackers_Lodge-Victoria_Falls_Matabeleland_North_Province.html

http://www.victoriafalls-guide.net/shoestrings.html

Sorry for the confusion, when I referenced Shoestrings, I was referring to TAR 27 leg 4. That's what I meant by "last visit to Zimbabwe."
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 18, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
Nah, my fault Xorux, I read too fast!

GeorgiaPeach where did you get that?  Cool!  If they flew to Dubai, Asia seems likely next, rather than Australia area.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 06:07:23 PM

 
Well I am just a dumb jock from small town Louisiana and I guess I was raised on proof & confirmation. When someone insists on 1 thing one day & tells a whole nother story the next, it is hard to get a good grip on whats true & whats BS. just saying

Exactly.

Which is why good detectives work hard to verify sources before posting unconfirmed "facts". It is always best to confirm things more than one way before calling them fact.

Which is why I have said a hundred times, please source your info. An eyewitness, a rumor, a news report, or an actual sighting, a friend said, someone onsite said, something to show your train of reasoning.

Then we can all work together to figure out what is really going on.

There are multiple  sources who see things from different times and perspectives. Putting that info altogether is like solving a jigsaw...what was a mystery becomes clear.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:08:16 PM
Did the twins have some sort of penalty? Wasn't there a pic of them watching Jody at the mat?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 06:09:06 PM
I wonder if another team got uturned too or just Jody?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 18, 2017, 06:11:14 PM
Did the twins have some sort of penalty? Wasn't there a pic of them watching Jody at the mat?

That is what I was wondering also. I don't think that picture is posted on here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:11:27 PM
Can someone repost the pic with both Jody and the Twins?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 06:15:30 PM
as far as placings go, I think we'd have to say the debaters were either 1st or 5th based on the following:

lifeguards and skiers were together (either 1/2 or 2/3)
a male male team beat jody to mat by seconds (3rd and 4th)
twins were last (6)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 06:15:59 PM
What do you think?    ???

10/15 Teams arrive in Harare late afternoon, spend night in lodge
10/16 Leg 7 in Harare: Song task, NEL
10/17 Leg 8 Rural Zimbabwe: U-Turn x2
10/18 Leg 9: Onward to next destination

I have a hard time believing that there was a quick leg on the 15th due to the last visit to Zimbabwe. Teams arrived in Zimbabwe in the afternoon, but due to the KOR production most likely didn't want teams racing at night. So, teams had to spend the night at Shoestrings before continuing the race. I'm sensing similar safety precautions for TAR 30.

So you are saying they were at Victoria Falls?  This lodge?  https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293761-d317533-Reviews-Shoestrings_Backpackers_Lodge-Victoria_Falls_Matabeleland_North_Province.html

http://www.victoriafalls-guide.net/shoestrings.html

Sorry for the confusion, when I referenced Shoestrings, I was referring to TAR 27 leg 4. That's what I meant by "last visit to Zimbabwe."

It is my understanding that there may have been no "Lodge"

Teams and Production were known to be  an intown Harare Hotel that I am not going to name right now since I am not sure what agreements they have w/production.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:16:31 PM
Isn't the guy wearing the hat one of the twins?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMWI77JUEAAgoPk.jpg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 18, 2017, 06:17:03 PM
https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/920292269651095552

You can see one of the twins standing there in the cap as jody walk away.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:17:51 PM
So was it a penalty? Or is it possible that the "twins" are being mistaken for another M/M team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 18, 2017, 06:19:49 PM
Maybe they did have a penalty. Also, the Twin isn't wearing his backpack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
Nah, my fault Xorux, I read too fast!

GeorgiaPeach where did you get that?  Cool!  If they flew to Dubai, Asia seems likely next, rather than Australia area.

Can't assume that. Production may have flown a faster route than teams can do.

But yes, I have already posted where I think they are going.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 06:22:12 PM
They can post convos and block out names and photos. That won't burn a source

Sure it can.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 06:23:02 PM
what if the twins checked in right before jody but had a penalty?

That would make them the m/m team that was seen checking in right before them AND caused them to be eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 18, 2017, 06:23:38 PM
We also have this Twin picture.


(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33374.0;attach=270100;image)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 06:25:10 PM
^ Are you going to share a source, Peach?

Absolutely. Already have.  :angel

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:30:16 PM
^ Are you going to share a source, Peach?

Absolutely. Already have.  :angel
May I ask where?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 06:30:48 PM
If I can combine both Peach's info & JodysCrew info, its easy to speculate that :
1) There were 2 legs in harare : Leg 7(rural) on 15th & Leg 8(urban) on 16th
2) Leg 7 was NEL, so 6 teams were still in play for Leg 8 (verfied by local zmb news that 6 teams competed in urban leg)
3) Leg 8 was Double U-Turn Leg
4) Shadow theory was correct in deciphering time lapse between Lifeguards/Skiers & Jody
5) Twins were eliminated and Jody finished 4th
6) Lifeguards placed 1st, Skiers placed 2nd
7) A male-male team which was't Twins, finished seconds before Jody
8) From 5,6,7 we can say that Debaters finished 5th
9) Production flew to Dubai as per Peach, may be a connector or final destination! still unknown so I'd rather not comment on that!
10) Interesting Fact : In TAR20, Brenchel were u-turned in the same leg and still manage to finish 4th with 6th team getting eliminated! So strange :o this happened again after exactly 10 years with another BB power couple
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:32:04 PM
I still think something is up. Why are the twins just chilling like that, if they were supposed to be last place? Jody apparently came in fouth too.

Is it possible that the twins were mistaken for another male pair? Or are your sources clear that the twins left.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:33:10 PM
Also, we know that one M/M pair finished just ahead of Jody. Couldn't that be the twins?

I really think the twins are still in it and another M/M pair is out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 06:36:41 PM
7) A male-male team which was't Twins, finished seconds before Jody
I'm a little sceptical about that. If Jody were really second behind another team, you'd guess there would be photo evidence of that. We have photos of lifeguards and skiers, who did not check in at the same time, together on the mat, so there should have been a photo of Jody AND that other team if this was true.

Btw, season 20 (Brenchel's first season) aired in 2012, not 2007.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:38:12 PM
^ There's a photo of the twins and Jody together at the pit stop. Look up.

I suspect that the twins are being mistakenly identifed as Indy, Violinists or Eaters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 06:41:22 PM
I still think something is up. Why are the twins just chilling like that, if they were supposed to be last place? Jody apparently came in fouth too.

Is it possible that the twins were mistaken for another male pair? Or are your sources clear that the twins left.
That’s not the twins in the picture
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:42:26 PM
I still think something is up. Why are the twins just chilling like that, if they were supposed to be last place? Jody apparently came in fouth too.

Is it possible that the twins were mistaken for another male pair? Or are your sources clear that the twins left.
That’s not the twins in the picture
Really? It matches his outfit to a tee and it looks like his shoes too?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 18, 2017, 06:42:40 PM
I'm seeing twitter posts from @tammi1512 with screen caps of conversations. So far, it's all been basic stuff we already knew. No real revelations up to this point. 5 teams left. They left Harare this morning. Since we already have this, didn't see any need to post them here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 06:43:05 PM
^ There's a photo of the twins and Jody together at the pit stop. Look up.

I suspect that the twins are being mistakenly identifed as Indy, Violinists or Eaters.
So for now, lets keep it at either Twins or another Male-Male team got eliminated.
Also, I think one more team along with Jody was u-turned for Jody to come in 4th. Remember Jody couldn't u-turn a team as they used it up in Leg 6. So some other team helped Jody in a way!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 06:43:22 PM
yep that isn't a twin look at the shoes.. They are different.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 18, 2017, 06:43:49 PM
I'm confused, because the eyewitness that saw Jody get beat by "seconds" identified the other team as the twins from a photo.

I also see on twitter people still claiming that Jody checked in at "13.42" when we know it had to be later.

My conclusion is that even eyewitnesses often make mistakes, so please, everyone be careful with your declarative statements.

Adding link to post where witness identifies the twins: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33373.msg1209665.html#msg1209665
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 06:46:15 PM
I still think something is up. Why are the twins just chilling like that, if they were supposed to be last place? Jody apparently came in fouth too.

Is it possible that the twins were mistaken for another male pair? Or are your sources clear that the twins left.
That’s not the twins in the picture
Really? It matches his outfit to a tee and it looks like his shoes too?

The shoes of the guy at the pitstop are like brown., the ones of the twins is blueish.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 18, 2017, 06:48:05 PM
Yesterday when people were saying that pic was the twins I didn’t look close at the pic. Looking at it now is that even one of the teams or is it camera crew? Looks like a camera on one of their hips
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 06:48:20 PM
I think one twin is wearing blue-ish shoes, but the other has brown ones?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 18, 2017, 06:48:52 PM
I still think something is up. Why are the twins just chilling like that, if they were supposed to be last place? Jody apparently came in fouth too.

Is it possible that the twins were mistaken for another male pair? Or are your sources clear that the twins left.
That’s not the twins in the picture
Really? It matches his outfit to a tee and it looks like his shoes too?

The shoes of the guy at the pitstop are like brown., the ones of the twins is blueish.

That is so odd b/c the shoes do look different and the back of pants look different also, but both are wearing their hat backwards.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 06:49:05 PM
If I can combine both Peach's info & JodysCrew info, its easy to speculate that :
1) There were 2 legs in harare : Leg 7(rural) on 15th & Leg 8(urban) on 16th
2) Leg 7 was NEL, so 6 teams were still in play for Leg 8 (verfied by local zmb news that 6 teams competed in urban leg)
3) Leg 8 was Double U-Turn Leg
4) Shadow theory was correct in deciphering time lapse between Lifeguards/Skiers & Jody
5) Twins were eliminated and Jody finished 4th
6) Lifeguards placed 1st, Skiers placed 2nd
7) A male-male team which was't Twins, finished seconds before Jody
8) From 5,6,7 we can say that Debaters finished 5th
9) Production flew to Dubai as per Peach, may be a connector or final destination! still unknown so I'd rather not comment on that!
10) Interesting Fact : In TAR20, Brenchel were u-turned in the same leg and still manage to finish 4th with 6th team getting eliminated! So strange :o this happened again after exactly 10 years with another BB power couple

What peach info? Seemed like she just repeated our info.. did I miss something?

No she didn't. I think both investigations converged beautifully.
1. Shadow theory where it was mentioned that Lifeguards/Skiers finished before Jody by like an hour
2. Missing leg in harare
3. Production member flying to Dubai
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 18, 2017, 06:50:32 PM
Does this mean that four of the men's teams have fallen in a row?  If so, it serves CBS right for once again casting so many of them.  Like we really wanted to see that many men's teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 18, 2017, 06:51:20 PM
Yesterday when people were saying that pic was the twins I didn’t look close at the pic. Looking at it now is that even one of the teams or is it camera crew? Looks like a camera on one of their hips

Thought that myself when found picture on Twitter, but GeorgiaPeach compared backpacks and if you look at earlier pics they had the same cranberry thing hanging off it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 06:54:46 PM
I think one twin is wearing blue-ish shoes, but the other has brown ones?

no look at the picture with the two twins.. Both of their shoes are dark colored

THe guys at the pitstop are brown. That is not a twin.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 18, 2017, 06:56:00 PM
Well there isnt much time left in a the race (less than a week) so the next 2 legs better happen quickly.

Isn't there some festival in Kathmandu at the moment?

Yes, tomorrow is Diwali. It's an official holiday in Hindu countries.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 18, 2017, 06:56:16 PM
Yesterday when people were saying that pic was the twins I didn’t look close at the pic. Looking at it now is that even one of the teams or is it camera crew? Looks like a camera on one of their hips

Thought that myself when found picture on Twitter, but GeorgiaPeach compared backpacks and if you look at earlier pics they had the same cranberry thing hanging off it.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but is that the same pic people are saying has Cody/Jess and twins together in because I don’t see that. Or is there a different pic with all of them together?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 18, 2017, 06:58:29 PM
Honestly, we should be looking ahead and catching the teams. Could help solve the identity of our missing team!

As Peach said earlier; Possible locations are Kathmandu, Sydney, Perth and Taipei. Myanmar is also a possibility.

Both. This next leg will be a long haul. Chances are good they are flying now, some of production was in transit yesterday.

Possible/probable
I have been checking Asia, Australia, all kinds of weird things - being new to the TAR spoilers, is this an abnormally long stretch with no new tangible news (or does it really depend on the social media activity of the locations they are in?)


Both. This next leg will be a long haul. Chances are good they are flying now, some of production was in transit yesterday.

Katmandu remains a STRONG possibility. As does Taipei.


Others include Myanmar, Sydney, Perth.

Katmandu would bring me GREAT JOY!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 18, 2017, 07:00:04 PM
I think one twin is wearing blue-ish shoes, but the other has brown ones?

no look at the picture with the two twins.. Both of their shoes are dark colored

THe guys at the pitstop are brown. That is not a twin.

Can you please repost the pictures in question so we know what you're referring to? Or give me the links so I can do a side-by-side?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 18, 2017, 07:06:37 PM
Here are the two pictures in question:

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33374.0;attach=270100;image)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMWI77JUEAAgoPk.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 18, 2017, 07:07:42 PM
I tried to post of the twins ang the guy who is being thought of as one of them, but my file is too big. The twins have cargo pants on but the guy in the pic with Cody doesnt
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 07:09:23 PM
I tried to post of the twins ang the guy who is being thought of as one of them, but my file is too big. The twins have cargo pants on but the guy in the pic with Cody doesnt

yes the pants and shoes are different. Plus he has no backpack.  THat guy probably works with the crew..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 18, 2017, 07:10:53 PM
I tried to post of the twins ang the guy who is being thought of as one of them, but my file is too big. The twins have cargo pants on but the guy in the pic with Cody doesnt

They look so similar, but looking at it again the guy in Jody pic also doesn't have a pack around his waist. I think in the other picture that is what is probably what is near his waist area.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 07:10:56 PM
Fwiw I’m pretty sure they went to Dubai and landed at 12:09am, and either doing a leg there or connecting in the morning and sleeping there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 18, 2017, 07:12:57 PM
I meant Jody not Cody
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 07:15:29 PM
this is probably the fewest M/F team they have ever had on the race... Only 3 and they are all in final 5.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 18, 2017, 07:19:51 PM
Fwiw I’m pretty sure they went to Dubai and landed at 12:09am, and either doing a leg there or connecting in the morning and sleeping there

Doing a leg in Dubai and catching a quick 4 hour flight to Katmandu sounds very reasonable.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 07:21:06 PM
I highly doubt this is only leg 8 with 5 teams left. This has to be leg 9 coming up .
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 18, 2017, 07:21:56 PM
Fingers crossed on Kathmandu!

If it is, teams could be landing via Doha, Qatar around 8:45am or 10:30am (so in the next few hours for us)

Connecting through Mumbai is also an option landing at 11am

Production could have easily connected through Dubai yesterday, landing sometime yesterday evening/night
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 18, 2017, 07:24:40 PM
this is probably the fewest M/F team they have ever had on the race... Only 3 and they are all in final 5.

And all three are dating. These lovers are competitive.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 07:25:54 PM
I highly doubt this is only leg 8 with 5 teams left. This has to be leg 9 coming up .
Yes it is Leg 9. 2 Legs in Zimbabwe (Leg 7 was NEL, Leg 8 was Double U-Turn)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 18, 2017, 07:27:19 PM
I highly doubt this is only leg 8 with 5 teams left. This has to be leg 9 coming up .
Yes it is Leg 9. 2 Legs in Zimbabwe (Leg 7 was NEL, Leg 8 was Double U-Turn)

Do we know is was a NEL and not a Keep on racing?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 07:27:39 PM
I highly doubt this is only leg 8 with 5 teams left. This has to be leg 9 coming up .
Yes it is Leg 9. 2 Legs in Zimbabwe (Leg 7 was NEL, Leg 8 was Double U-Turn)

Stop saying this. Nobody know this to be true
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 07:31:42 PM
One other thing I’ve learned is they’re expected to be home in 23-24 days from the start. So I’m assuming they finish Sunday-Tuesday.

With 5 left. I see an elimination in Asia, possibly a NEL and 2 quick legs there... then head to Australia with 4 teams... and then head to Vegas or LA with the final 3.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 18, 2017, 07:33:48 PM
Maybe a dumb question to ask, is there any confirmation with support for these three pieces of information we are talking about?

1. 2 Legs in Zimbabwe and we are now starting leg 9
2. U-turn in Zimbabwe and Twins get eliminated
3. They flew to Dubai
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 18, 2017, 07:36:17 PM
Fingers crossed on Kathmandu!

If it is, teams could be landing via Doha, Qatar around 8:45am or 10:30am (so in the next few hours for us)

Connecting through Mumbai is also an option landing at 11am

Production could have easily connected through Dubai yesterday, landing sometime yesterday evening/night

Not happening I think. I don't think they would do a three flight connection.

We know they did Harare-Johannesburg-Dubai. The next flight is their destination, ie direct from Dubai.

Didn't they JUST do one to get to Zimbabwe though?

Prague > Zurich > Johannesburg > Harare?

Would take only 2 to get into either Doha or Mumbai from Harare- I'm not counting it out yet
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 18, 2017, 07:40:49 PM
Maybe a dumb question to ask, is there any confirmation with support for these three pieces of information we are talking about?

1. 2 Legs in Zimbabwe and we are now starting leg 9
2. U-turn in Zimbabwe and Twins get eliminated
3. They flew to Dubai
https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712
https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920794580076838912
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 18, 2017, 07:41:37 PM
One other thing I’ve learned is they’re expected to be home in 23-24 days from the start. So I’m assuming they finish Sunday-Tuesday.

With 5 left. I see an elimination in Asia, possibly a NEL and 2 quick legs there... then head to Australia with 4 teams... and then head to Vegas or LA with the final 3.

Since they started in New York, chances are the final leg will predictably be somewhere in LA or somewhere close to it. Sadly, every season since 11 has either had to start or end in California. Would be nice if they break this pattern for 30 but, I'd guess there's a little budget saving for at least one end of the race to be near home base.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 18, 2017, 07:50:16 PM
I thought only production was seen connecting in Dubai?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 18, 2017, 07:53:00 PM
I thought only production was seen connecting in Dubai?

Yes. Yesterday, I worked backwards from suspected destination. There are other possibilities.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 07:59:38 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on October 18, 2017, 08:00:54 PM
Fingers crossed on Kathmandu!

If it is, teams could be landing via Doha, Qatar around 8:45am or 10:30am (so in the next few hours for us)

Connecting through Mumbai is also an option landing at 11am

Production could have easily connected through Dubai yesterday, landing sometime yesterday evening/night

Not happening I think. I don't think they would do a three flight connection.

We know they did Harare-Johannesburg-Dubai. The next flight is their destination, ie direct from Dubai.

Didn't they JUST do one to get to Zimbabwe though?

Prague > Zurich > Johannesburg > Harare?

Would take only 2 to get into either Doha or Mumbai from Harare- I'm not counting it out yet

Sorry should have been more clear. I meant three connections before their final destination, which we have not seen.

We know teams are connecting through Dubai...

So that would be our two flights... leaving one more to get to their destination.

Perhaps Taipei??? Based only off the fact that Taiwan tourism board sponsored casting calls and because there are direct flights to Taiwan from Dubai. Would have posted in unsupported speculation but didn't know how to post cross-threads sry!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 18, 2017, 08:02:24 PM
-deleted after digging out older post to see some information  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 08:07:33 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:11:29 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️

But the info yesterday was correct on here. And not there. They didn’t come in 2nd. Where was the confirmation that the twins got eliminated?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 18, 2017, 08:11:32 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️
but you've also been wrong numerous times already, first saying they were only 8 times in Morocco, and recently saying jody was ahead of lifeguards/skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 18, 2017, 08:13:11 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️

But the info yesterday was correct on here. And not there. They didn’t come in 2nd. Where was the confirmation that the twins got eliminated?

Peach also posted that Twins were eliminated. If the Jody group chooses not to post confirmation here, you can request it from Peach.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 08:13:47 PM
I requested the info from Peach and she never posted?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 08:14:32 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️
Excuse me ? We spoke to the same source and got same answers. I am admitting my mistake that I jumped on the conclusion of Jody being 2nd from the info from the source I had conversation with. I have apologized since. Interestingly, the crew also posted the same conclusion of them being 2nd and has not yet apologized since and in return is blocking.
You bet I'll stick to rff, their shade theory was accurate enough before any of this! But i'll also appreciate the work you guys are putting in. Im in no way bitter. Just want to reach to the right conclusion. For that, questioning is an essential tool.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:14:37 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️

But the info yesterday was correct on here. And not there. They didn’t come in 2nd. Where was the confirmation that the twins got eliminated?

Peach also posted that Twins were eliminated. If the Jody group chooses not to post confirmation here, you can request it from Peach.

It wasn’t directed towards “Jody’s group”. I was asking confirmation because peach posted it. So anyone know?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 18, 2017, 08:16:21 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️
Excuse me ? We spoke to the same source and got same answers. I am admitting my mistake that I jumped on the conclusion of Jody being 2nd from the info from the source I had conversation with. I have apologized since. Interestingly, the crew also posted the same conclusion of them being 2nd and has not yet apologized since and in return is blocking.
You bet I'll stick to rff, their shade theory was accurate enough before any of this! But i'll also appreciate the work you guys are putting in. Im in no way bitter. Just want to reach to the right conclusion. For that, questioning is an essential tool.
Shade theory was still incorrect because Jody were already checked into the pit stop well before “2:50-3:50” 😂
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:18:04 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️
Excuse me ? We spoke to the same source and got same answers. I am admitting my mistake that I jumped on the conclusion of Jody being 2nd from the info from the source I had conversation with. I have apologized since. Interestingly, the crew also posted the same conclusion of them being 2nd and has not yet apologized since and in return is blocking.
You bet I'll stick to rff, their shade theory was accurate enough before any of this! But i'll also appreciate the work you guys are putting in. Im in no way bitter. Just want to reach to the right conclusion. For that, questioning is an essential tool.
Shade theory was still incorrect because Jody were already checked into the pit stop well before “2:50-3:50” 😂

The point was to see who was earlier and later. That proved correct. Based on a scientific point of view not heresay  from someone who’s friend of a friend that someone may have spoken to that could’ve saw them maybe at that time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 18, 2017, 08:19:27 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️
Excuse me ? We spoke to the same source and got same answers. I am admitting my mistake that I jumped on the conclusion of Jody being 2nd from the info from the source I had conversation with. I have apologized since. Interestingly, the crew also posted the same conclusion of them being 2nd and has not yet apologized since and in return is blocking.
You bet I'll stick to rff, their shade theory was accurate enough before any of this! But i'll also appreciate the work you guys are putting in. Im in no way bitter. Just want to reach to the right conclusion. For that, questioning is an essential tool.
Shade theory was still incorrect because Jody were already checked into the pit stop well before “2:50-3:50” 😂

The point was to see who was earlier and later. That proved correct. Based on a scientific point of view not heresay  from someone who’s friend of a friend that someone may have spoken to that could’ve saw them maybe at that time
Actually the person we got the picture from was taken by one of our sources not a friend! You guys complain and bash us and then get mad when we protect our tweets but you sure are glued to all of our twitter feeds 🙄.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:20:54 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 08:24:23 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 18, 2017, 08:25:47 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:26:19 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.

I don’t think it was another double u turn but anything is possible. I feel like this was a NEL I know peach said it so I wanted to know for sure
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 08:26:53 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.


why.  Twins could have gotten lost, or were bad at the challenges.. Wasn't one of them a singing comp where you had to memorize african lyrics?  Maybe they just weren't good at it..

Any team can get stuck and go home at anytime on TAR for so many different reasons.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:27:00 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team

How is it 100%?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 08:27:45 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team
Why has the info about an MM team beating Jody by seconds suddenly disappeared?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:27:59 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.


why.  Twins could have gotten lost, or were bad at the challenges.. Wasn't one of them a singing comp where you had to memorize african lyrics?  Maybe they just weren't good at it..

Any team can get stuck and go home at anytime on TAR for so many different reasons.

That’s not what theyre saying. They aren’t saying they aren’t capable of being eliminated we just wanted to know what proof there was that’s all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:28:47 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team
Why has the info about an MM team beating Jody by seconds suddenly disappeared?

That’s why I’m confused. One day is 100 percent certain and then it’s not right
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.
The same level of proof is provided for twins being last and Jody being 4th, so I don't know why you're selecting information that you believe in like that.
Also, there are a millions reasons why a team could get eliminated. And there are never speed bumps on NEL legs, they appear on legs after NELs.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 18, 2017, 08:30:18 PM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️
Excuse me ? We spoke to the same source and got same answers. I am admitting my mistake that I jumped on the conclusion of Jody being 2nd from the info from the source I had conversation with. I have apologized since. Interestingly, the crew also posted the same conclusion of them being 2nd and has not yet apologized since and in return is blocking.
You bet I'll stick to rff, their shade theory was accurate enough before any of this! But i'll also appreciate the work you guys are putting in. Im in no way bitter. Just want to reach to the right conclusion. For that, questioning is an essential tool.
Shade theory was still incorrect because Jody were already checked into the pit stop well before “2:50-3:50” 😂
Still more accurate than Jody fanbase 😂 😂
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 18, 2017, 08:31:25 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team
Why has the info about an MM team beating Jody by seconds suddenly disappeared?
The source that mentioned that never said twins and we NEVER said which team beat them by seconds. Straight from the sources mouth
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 08:32:24 PM
the source never said the twins.. People assumed twins because they thought the guy in the photo was a twin (it wasn't).

It was likely the mystery m/m team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team
Why has the info about an MM team beating Jody by seconds suddenly disappeared?
The source that mentioned that never said twins and we NEVER said which team beat them by seconds. Straight from the sources mouth
I didn't mention twins either.
I said MM team, which was reirerated by you guys many times here. Please don't make me crawl my way back pages to show proof in posts.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 18, 2017, 08:34:00 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Their cousins won't know any more than we do. Eliminated teams are sequestered and wouldn't be allow to call home. After the race, the cousins still won't know unless the twins violate their non-disclosure agreement.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 18, 2017, 08:34:18 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team
Why has the info about an MM team beating Jody by seconds suddenly disappeared?
The source that mentioned that never said twins and we NEVER said which team beat them by seconds. Straight from the sources mouth

But now you're saying they checked in before the M/M team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 08:34:46 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.
The same level of proof is provided for twins being last and Jody being 4th, so I don't know why you're selecting information that you believe in like that.
Also, there are a millions reasons why a team could get eliminated. And there are never speed bumps on NEL legs, they appear on legs after NELs.

Again, where is the proof where your source said that twins were last ? All i saw was jody in 4th position and 5 teams remain.
Agreed there are million reasons and agreed that there is no speed bump on NEL leg, but their is on the next leg. Thats what i meant with obviously considering there were 2 legs in zimbabwe. One was rural, other was urban.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 08:35:18 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Their cousins won't know any more than we do. Eliminated teams are sequestered and wouldn't be allow to call home. After the race, the cousins still won't know unless the twins violate their non-disclosure agreement.
ARFanatic was saying that we might have some information FOR the cousin, not from them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 18, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
Twins are 100% eliminated. 5 teams are 1.Skiers 2.
Lifeguards 3.Debaters 4.Jody 5. M/M mystery team
Why has the info about an MM team beating Jody by seconds suddenly disappeared?

That’s why I’m confused. One day is 100 percent certain and then it’s not right
Im confused with you because I thought I read that the unknown m/m team still beat Jody by seconds it just was not the twins as people originally thought
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:36:31 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Their cousins won't know any more than we do. Eliminated teams are sequestered and wouldn't be allow to call home. After the race, the cousins still won't know unless the twins violate their non-disclosure agreement.

I know that. I’m saying they have been reading here to follow along their Journey and hope they win. I wouldn’t want them to read they were eliminated if we were not sure
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 18, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Their cousins won't know any more than we do. Eliminated teams are sequestered and wouldn't be allow to call home. After the race, the cousins still won't know unless the twins violate their non-disclosure agreement.

I know that. I’m saying they have been reading here to follow along their Journey and hope they win. I wouldn’t want them to read they were eliminated if we were not sure
https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 08:40:44 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.
The same level of proof is provided for twins being last and Jody being 4th, so I don't know why you're selecting information that you believe in like that.
Also, there are a millions reasons why a team could get eliminated. And there are never speed bumps on NEL legs, they appear on legs after NELs.

Again, where is the proof where your source said that twins were last ? All i saw was jody in 4th position and 5 teams remain.
Agreed there are million reasons and agreed that there is no speed bump on NEL leg, but their is on the next leg. Thats what i meant with obviously considering there were 2 legs in zimbabwe. One was rural, other was urban.
Not my source, I'm not the one bringing info here, but I guess this is the 'proof': https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712

I just don't get why you're referring to NELs & speed bumps at all. We don't know ANYTHING about that.
Could have been 2 legs in Zimbabwe, could have been 1.
For all we know, there could be a F5 and a F4 NEL. Has happened before multiple times.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: AmazingRaceFanatic3 on October 18, 2017, 08:44:35 PM
I’m not going to take that as proof right now. That’s the same thing as last time. Guess I’ll wait and see who pops up
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 18, 2017, 08:45:43 PM
I’m hopeful!! 😁. I believe those TwinEMTs are still in this thing... we shall see!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 18, 2017, 08:47:46 PM
Well, I also just read from the "Jody TEAM" that I am GeorgiaPeach's sock puppet.

So, yeah, sometimes they haven't been accurate, but they definitely have a source, and at this point, I really have to wonder if someone from production is involved.  Obviously a source at the hotel in a few places as well.

I don't know why this has to be a war, it's making me feel icky.  I love the photos they've posted and the spoilers, and I love the work you guys do too. 

I still don't know how we know Phil flew to Dubai, from everything I can remember reading, it was just said, without even a "I can't tell you how I know, I'm protecting a source." 

I also don't understand how, with all the photos, sources, and information a mysterious team hasn't been seen in so long, that was quite a crowd at the pit stop, seems like someone would have had a photo, considering how many have been found.

Also, anyone know what the "made it by 5 minutes" thing is about?  I assumed it was "made the plane by 5 minutes?"
 :chute:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 08:51:29 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.
The same level of proof is provided for twins being last and Jody being 4th, so I don't know why you're selecting information that you believe in like that.
Also, there are a millions reasons why a team could get eliminated. And there are never speed bumps on NEL legs, they appear on legs after NELs.

Again, where is the proof where your source said that twins were last ? All i saw was jody in 4th position and 5 teams remain.
Agreed there are million reasons and agreed that there is no speed bump on NEL leg, but their is on the next leg. Thats what i meant with obviously considering there were 2 legs in zimbabwe. One was rural, other was urban.
Not my source, I'm not the one bringing info here, but I guess this is the 'proof': https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712

I just don't get why you're referring to NELs & speed bumps at all. We don't know ANYTHING about that.
Could have been 2 legs in Zimbabwe, could have been 1.
For all we know, there could be a F5 and a F4 NEL. Has happened before multiple times.

1.Cuz they NELs, speed bumps are part of TAR lol and they would've impacted the leg results.
2. That source doesn't prove that twins were last at all.
3. Which season had F5 & F4 as NELs previously in the history of TAR US ? NELs can't be back to back.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 18, 2017, 08:54:17 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.
The same level of proof is provided for twins being last and Jody being 4th, so I don't know why you're selecting information that you believe in like that.
Also, there are a millions reasons why a team could get eliminated. And there are never speed bumps on NEL legs, they appear on legs after NELs.

Again, where is the proof where your source said that twins were last ? All i saw was jody in 4th position and 5 teams remain.
Agreed there are million reasons and agreed that there is no speed bump on NEL leg, but their is on the next leg. Thats what i meant with obviously considering there were 2 legs in zimbabwe. One was rural, other was urban.
Not my source, I'm not the one bringing info here, but I guess this is the 'proof': https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712

I just don't get why you're referring to NELs & speed bumps at all. We don't know ANYTHING about that.
Could have been 2 legs in Zimbabwe, could have been 1.
For all we know, there could be a F5 and a F4 NEL. Has happened before multiple times.

1.Cuz they NELs, speed bumps are part of TAR lol and they would've impacted the leg results.
2. That source doesn't prove that twins were last at all.
3. Which season had F5 & F4 as NELs previously in the history of TAR US ? NELs can't be back to back.

True. But TAR 15 was the last time had a true F5 and F4 NEL. TAR 26 was also had a F5 and F4 NEL, but the F4 NEL was a KOR.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 18, 2017, 08:56:38 PM
I just want to know who are the mystery team. How could they beat Jody by seconds and yet nobody can identify them while we have multiple sightings of team Jody? This is very interesting can wait for them to pop up and find out their identity
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 08:58:57 PM
Guess he still didn’t get the order right then. Anyway does anyone know about the
Twins how it’s 100%? I know their cousins are on here so hope we have some information for them

Its not. Their posts don't prove that twins were last. Only that Jody was 4th (obviously if we believe their source, which I do).
The only way i see twins getting eliminated is if they too would've been u-turned along with jody. There already was a speed bump before in the NEL leg.
The same level of proof is provided for twins being last and Jody being 4th, so I don't know why you're selecting information that you believe in like that.
Also, there are a millions reasons why a team could get eliminated. And there are never speed bumps on NEL legs, they appear on legs after NELs.

Again, where is the proof where your source said that twins were last ? All i saw was jody in 4th position and 5 teams remain.
Agreed there are million reasons and agreed that there is no speed bump on NEL leg, but their is on the next leg. Thats what i meant with obviously considering there were 2 legs in zimbabwe. One was rural, other was urban.
Not my source, I'm not the one bringing info here, but I guess this is the 'proof': https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712

I just don't get why you're referring to NELs & speed bumps at all. We don't know ANYTHING about that.
Could have been 2 legs in Zimbabwe, could have been 1.
For all we know, there could be a F5 and a F4 NEL. Has happened before multiple times.

1.Cuz they NELs, speed bumps are part of TAR lol and they would've impacted the leg results.
2. That source doesn't prove that twins were last at all.
3. Which season had F5 & F4 as NELs previously in the history of TAR US ? NELs can't be back to back.

TAR 15 was the last time had a F5 and F4 NEL.

True but it also had
1. 12 teams unlike 11 we have in modern TAR seasons
2. these were the only 2 NELs it had.
3. Hence, hard to go just by this exception
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 18, 2017, 08:59:23 PM
I’m hopeful!! 😁. I believe those TwinEMTs are still in this thing... we shall see!
   
 
I am with you Tammy. I read the eliminated team was scared of heights.  That just does not sound like 2 ex marines/EMTs/firefighters to me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 18, 2017, 09:00:10 PM
I just want to know who are the mystery team. How could they beat Jody by seconds and yet nobody can identify them while we have multiple sightings of team Jody? This is very interesting can wait for them to pop up and find out their identity

I want to know, too. Without any reason, I suspect it's the Violinists team in spite of getting U-Turned. The Jody group tends to ask only questions about the Jody team and their safety.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 09:00:49 PM
Not my source, I'm not the one bringing info here, but I guess this is the 'proof': https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712

I just don't get why you're referring to NELs & speed bumps at all. We don't know ANYTHING about that.
Could have been 2 legs in Zimbabwe, could have been 1.
For all we know, there could be a F5 and a F4 NEL. Has happened before multiple times.

1.Cuz they NELs, speed bumps are part of TAR lol and they would've impacted the leg results.
2. That source doesn't prove that twins were last at all.
3. Which season had F5 & F4 as NELs previously in the history of TAR US ? NELs can't be back to back.
I mean that we have no way of knowing anything about NEL placements so far besides the Morocco leg. And you seemed to reference it like something was known, so sorry if I misunderstood.
For F5 & F4 NELs, look at seasons 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 26.
Seasons 3 and 5 had back-to-back NELs at F5 (and 11 at F4), but that doesn't happen anymore, with the rare exception of 25 which had back-to-back NEL and KOR at F4.


Slight (irrelevant) correction to your other post - S15 also had Leg 1 NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 09:03:30 PM
I’m hopeful!! 😁. I believe those TwinEMTs are still in this thing... we shall see!
   
 
I am with you Tammy. I read the eliminated team was scared of heights.  That just does not sound like 2 ex marines/EMTs/firefighters to me.
Where did you read that? :groan: This is 100% unbased and I haven't even seen such info anywhere.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 09:06:24 PM
I just want to know who are the mystery team. How could they beat Jody by seconds and yet nobody can identify them while we have multiple sightings of team Jody? This is very interesting can wait for them to pop up and find out their identity

1. The Jody crew people are saying that violinists are still in it.
2. And if we do believe them that twins were perhaps last. Then based on this, we can say that violinists finished seconds before Jody as they also seem to claim that a Male-Male team finished seconds before Jody
3. And I'm also hearing that Lifeguards were the 1st to start the next leg.
4. This leaves Debaters in the 5th place.
5. So it may so have been that Jody & Twins would've been u-turned by LG/Skiers/Violinists.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 18, 2017, 09:07:51 PM
I’ve learned to trust what Peach says

If she’s made such definitive statements as she did back on 75, I’m considering those as good as fact

She’s proven throughout the seasons that she knows what she’s up to

I’m excited to see how the rest of the season shakes out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 18, 2017, 09:08:18 PM
I’m hopeful!! 😁. I believe those TwinEMTs are still in this thing... we shall see!
   
 
I am with you Tammy. I read the eliminated team was scared of heights.  That just does not sound like 2 ex marines/EMTs/firefighters to me.

So this is the twist Phil mentioned at the special start for this season that teams with fear of height might not make it to the finish line! Wondering what is the twist now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 09:09:38 PM
Peach said that the twins were out. Can she provide a source?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 18, 2017, 09:10:35 PM
I’m hopeful!! 😁. I believe those TwinEMTs are still in this thing... we shall see!
   
 
I am with you Tammy. I read the eliminated team was scared of heights.  That just does not sound like 2 ex marines/EMTs/firefighters to me.

So this is the twist Phil mentioned at the special start for this season that teams with fear of height might not make it to the finish line! Wondering what is the twist now.

Where is it stated that Twins are scared of heights???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 18, 2017, 09:11:10 PM
Peach said that the twins were out. Can she provide a source?

If Peach confirms it, you can bet its true.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 09:14:41 PM
I just want to know who are the mystery team. How could they beat Jody by seconds and yet nobody can identify them while we have multiple sightings of team Jody? This is very interesting can wait for them to pop up and find out their identity

1. The Jody crew people are saying that violinists are still in it.
2. And if we do believe them that twins were perhaps last. Then based on this, we can say that violinists finished seconds before Jody as they also seem to claim that a Male-Male team finished seconds before Jody
3. And I'm also hearing that Lifeguards were the 1st to start the next leg.
4. This leaves Debaters in the 5th place.
5. So it may so have been that Jody & Twins would've been u-turned by LG/Skiers/Violinists.

Here you go again taking things we say, adding to it and stating as fact. ... smh
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 09:14:52 PM
Peach said that the twins were out. Can she provide a source?

If Peach confirms it, you can bet its true.
But it's not sourced?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 18, 2017, 09:15:54 PM
Peach said that the twins were out. Can she provide a source?

If Peach confirms it, you can bet its true.

She just took what we said and repeated it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 09:17:30 PM
It's interesting because my posts got deleted for not naming sources. Yet we still don't have a source from Peach???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 18, 2017, 09:18:40 PM
Today there are lots of info floating around and most of them do not have evidence to back them up. Very confused...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 18, 2017, 09:19:10 PM
I just want to know who are the mystery team. How could they beat Jody by seconds and yet nobody can identify them while we have multiple sightings of team Jody? This is very interesting can wait for them to pop up and find out their identity

1. The Jody crew people are saying that violinists are still in it.
2. And if we do believe them that twins were perhaps last. Then based on this, we can say that violinists finished seconds before Jody as they also seem to claim that a Male-Male team finished seconds before Jody
3. And I'm also hearing that Lifeguards were the 1st to start the next leg.
4. This leaves Debaters in the 5th place.
5. So it may so have been that Jody & Twins would've been u-turned by LG/Skiers/Violinists.

Here you go again taking things we say, adding to it and stating as fact. ... smh

I said according to Jody crew people. Never said thats what I said. But basing certain facts in order and reaching a conclusion, I think that, any rational being can do. Which Jody crew people fail at miserably. They had all the sources, yet they took so much time in concluding the rankings. SAD.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 18, 2017, 09:20:28 PM
It's interesting because my posts got deleted for not naming sources. Yet we still don't have a source from Peach???

Peach knows her sources. She has no idea whether you have one or not since you refuse to divulge it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 09:23:06 PM
It's interesting because my posts got deleted for not naming sources. Yet we still don't have a source from Peach???

Peach knows her sources. She has no idea whether you have one or not since you refuse to divulge it.
I don't have a source, but that's silly.

You guys can't rag on Jody fans for not sharing their sources, then do the exact same.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 18, 2017, 09:25:46 PM
It's interesting because my posts got deleted for not naming sources. Yet we still don't have a source from Peach???

Peach knows her sources. She has no idea whether you have one or not since you refuse to divulge it.
I don't have a source, but that's silly.

You guys can't rag on Jody fans for not sharing their sources, then do the exact same.

Personally I would like both RFF and Jody fans to share their sources (unless someone has production on speed dial that needs protected) because I'm inclined to believe nothing unless it's been photographed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 18, 2017, 09:26:58 PM
It's interesting because my posts got deleted for not naming sources. Yet we still don't have a source from Peach???

Peach knows her sources. She has no idea whether you have one or not since you refuse to divulge it.
I don't have a source, but that's silly.

You guys can't rag on Jody fans for not sharing their sources, then do the exact same.

Its not about not sharing sources to keep them to yourself. This board is about verifying information. We do share information because the more we have , the more we see things from different angles and the better the speculation. Peach wants to make sure we get good, correct information, hence the sourcing. Peach runs this board, she isn't going to post anything thats not reliable. 

Now, can we get back to researching. All this is sucking the fun out of this.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 18, 2017, 09:27:42 PM
when does this next leg supposed to start anyone have any ideas?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 18, 2017, 09:30:28 PM
Well, if you don't have sources and the Jody fans won't share their sources, how are we supposed to just take your word for it? Especially when the story changes a few times a day. The vast majority of the time at RFF we do give our sources. Occasionally we don't when there are sufficient reasons, but that doesn't happen EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 18, 2017, 09:31:38 PM
when does this next leg supposed to start anyone have any ideas?

Could be any time now. Maybe it's already happening.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 18, 2017, 09:33:12 PM
Well, if you don't have sources and the Jody fans won't share their sources, how are we supposed to just take your word for it? Especially when the story changes a few times a day. The vast majority of the time at RFF we do give our sources. Occasionally we don't when there are sufficient reasons, but that doesn't happen EVERY SINGLE TIME.
I'm not one of JodysCrew. I'm just a fan of the couple.

I follow both RFF and Jody fans. I respect any info. lately I just noticed some hypocrisy here
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 18, 2017, 09:37:59 PM
Well, if it is in Nepal, it's just after 8 AM now, lots to do there.  I hope it's not Dubai, so super rich and they've already done it, heck, even the Real Housewives go there.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 09:48:46 PM
I just want to know who are the mystery team. How could they beat Jody by seconds and yet nobody can identify them while we have multiple sightings of team Jody? This is very interesting can wait for them to pop up and find out their identity

1. The Jody crew people are saying that violinists are still in it.
2. And if we do believe them that twins were perhaps last. Then based on this, we can say that violinists finished seconds before Jody as they also seem to claim that a Male-Male team finished seconds before Jody
3. And I'm also hearing that Lifeguards were the 1st to start the next leg.
4. This leaves Debaters in the 5th place.
5. So it may so have been that Jody & Twins would've been u-turned by LG/Skiers/Violinists.

I'm pretty SURE nobody knows who the missing team is. What I've seen on twitter is fans GUESSING it could be violinists, but there is absolutely 0 proof.
Btw, TravelTheWorld gave a list that completely contradicted the previous info of Jody being beaten by an MM team by seconds.

I’m hopeful!! . I believe those TwinEMTs are still in this thing... we shall see!
   
 
I am with you Tammy. I read the eliminated team was scared of heights.  That just does not sound like 2 ex marines/EMTs/firefighters to me.

So this is the twist Phil mentioned at the special start for this season that teams with fear of height might not make it to the finish line! Wondering what is the twist now.
Sorry, I really just don't get how this is important? Fear of heights would be no twist, there are heights tasks each season.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 18, 2017, 09:51:41 PM
itsjustme11 summed it up so well.
This thread has really depleted me today and I don't find myself enjoying this as much as I should be.

Really, the perfect way to describe it
https://youtu.be/woDB-3r-WWk?t=6s

And I hope that everybody who is here to argue and not help with the assessment of spoilers can stop cluttering this thread.
Goodnight, we'll catch the teams in the next leg and everything will be clearer!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 18, 2017, 09:57:40 PM
I also don't get how fear of heights should affect a team lol, did many of you not watch 29? :lol:

You should!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sox15 on October 18, 2017, 11:49:24 PM
If you ever followed Jody fans on Jokers Updates, man...it was exhausting. This is how I'm feeling here. Keep up the excellent work Peach!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 18, 2017, 11:58:25 PM
Maybe a dumb question to ask, is there any confirmation with support for these three pieces of information we are talking about?

1. 2 Legs in Zimbabwe and we are now starting leg 9
2. U-turn in Zimbabwe and Twins get eliminated
3. They flew to Dubai
https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920795644175859712
https://twitter.com/tammi1512/status/920794580076838912

Sorry but this is NOT confirmation of anything except a convo between two unknown people. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 12:01:21 AM
I thought only production was seen connecting in Dubai?

That's right.

And production's route cannot be interpreted to be the route teams would take.

Apples and Oranges. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 12:06:15 AM
These Jody crew people are certainly good info gatherers but they fail miserably in making sense out of it. RFF is clearly the best place to have an unbiased conversation and argumentation.
They are blocking people left and right who are trying to argue in a constructive manner. Its pathetic of them.
No, they’re blocking you because you take their info and then present it and subscribe random ass theories and present them as fact, like I corrected you on the last page. So just stick to rff and wait for isn’t to decide to post the info like everyone else here. 💁🏻‍♂️

PERSONAL ATTACKS TO OTHER POSTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT RFF!

ONE MORE POST LIKE THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST> I AM TIRED OF TELLING YOU!



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 12:13:34 AM


Again, where is the proof where your source said that twins were last ? All i saw was jody in 4th position and 5 teams remain.
Agreed there are million reasons and agreed that there is no speed bump on NEL leg, but their is on the next leg. Thats what i meant with obviously considering there were 2 legs in zimbabwe. One was rural, other was urban.

Where is the evidence for this please? as best I remember this has been speculated, but no proof.

So far except one comment on a Lodge and a 4x4 that has not yet been proven, I see nothing to PROVE a rural leg ...did I miss something? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 12:48:04 AM
OKAY...peach is pissed.

I go offline for 3 hours and come back to 4 pages of crapola.

THIS thread is for RFF's Discussion on SPOILERS.

NOT discussion of others..

Since the "JODY TEAM" Is hiding their work it is IMPOSSIBLE to make a judgement on their info. We can't see it so we can't assess its accuracy.

Secondhand reports of what others are saying/doing is utterly useless in a spoiler evaluation. I have repeatedly told the people regurgitating others info to post the FACTS.

No more!!

Let's start again please.

It is ~11:38 in Katmandu.

IF this is our next destination, teams could be landing now

Possible flight (thanks to traveljunkie)

Jet Air 557 Dubai 2325 0405‡1 Mumbai       

Jet Air 250 Mumbai 0805 Kathmandu  1100

Remember that this destination is NOT confirmed. It is one of several that fit flight possibilities.

But it is EXCEEDINGLY dear to my heart, so hoping!! October is also the best month of the year there, the skies are clearer and the chances of Mountain views are much higher.

BACK TO SPOILERS NOW.

Let's all search our heart's out! I see HOURS of WASTED search time spent distracted by the unsubstantiated info being posted here.

MOVING ON.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 19, 2017, 12:53:50 AM
I tried to post of the twins ang the guy who is being thought of as one of them, but my file is too big. The twins have cargo pants on but the guy in the pic with Cody doesnt

They look so similar, but looking at it again the guy in Jody pic also doesn't have a pack around his waist. I think in the other picture that is what is probably what is near his waist area.
This is probably old insignificant news, but I was looking back through some of the posts & this one was really bugging me.  I wasn't quite sure which 2 photos/guys were in question, but I think I've got it. I believe this is the same guy (camera man) in both pictures. At first glance (in the fuzzy photo) his hair looks like a backwards cap, but I think that's just longer blonde hair as visible in the 2nd photo.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 01:09:01 AM
That is Petr of course! 100%
Good job!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 01:16:06 AM
I took this at JFK. The circle is Petr.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 01:21:00 AM
More Petr:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 19, 2017, 01:23:59 AM
Thanks for the additional photos of Petr. Makes me feel like I'm going a little less crazy!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: paradoxinee on October 19, 2017, 02:04:45 AM
Is a cameramen assigned all the way to one team? Like Petr and the violists.
If he is, then I think the violists were eliminated so that Petr now joined the production team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 19, 2017, 02:08:32 AM
No, they change

Talked with someone on production about that

They switch crews between teams every leg

He could very well have been Jody’s cameraman that leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 02:24:59 AM
Is a cameramen assigned all the way to one team? Like Petr and the violists.
If he is, then I think the violists were eliminated so that Petr now joined the production team.

No. Camera guys switch racers every leg or two, so there is no advantage to a team in any way.

Petr is mostly with Phil anyway I think? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 02:26:09 AM
And based on what we have DOCUMENTED, I am not sure we can say Violinists. ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 19, 2017, 02:50:47 AM
This is honestly sad. I've been following this for years now and never had seen the speculation thread like this before
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 19, 2017, 03:04:06 AM
If Jody finished 4th, are we looking at Jelani & Jenni situation (TAR 26) ? That would so awesome to watch. It happened to them during Leg 8 too.
If thats the case, they probably used their express pass (from Leg 1) but couldn't reach at U-Turn board on time and someone did them dirty (violinists ? cuz Jody uturned them.. a payback of sorts!) and they were forced to do one side of the detour.
That would justify as to why they didn't get a 5th position or get eliminated! A far fetched speculation I know but can come true.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 19, 2017, 03:46:07 AM
If Jody finished 4th, are we looking at Jelani & Jenni situation (TAR 26) ? That would so awesome to watch. It happened to them during Leg 8 too.
If thats the case, they probably used their express pass (from Leg 1) but couldn't reach at U-Turn board on time and someone did them dirty (violinists ? cuz Jody uturned them.. a payback of sorts!) and they were forced to do one side of the detour.
That would justify as to why they didn't get a 5th position or get eliminated! A far fetched speculation I know but can come true.
Without any support of the u-turn, I don't think we should go for speculation like this
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: yankeeshan on October 19, 2017, 04:04:45 AM
I tried to post of the twins ang the guy who is being thought of as one of them, but my file is too big. The twins have cargo pants on but the guy in the pic with Cody doesnt

They look so similar, but looking at it again the guy in Jody pic also doesn't have a pack around his waist. I think in the other picture that is what is probably what is near his waist area.
This is probably old insignificant news, but I was looking back through some of the posts & this one was really bugging me.  I wasn't quite sure which 2 photos/guys were in question, but I think I've got it. I believe this is the same guy (camera man) in both pictures. At first glance (in the fuzzy photo) his hair looks like a backwards cap, but I think that's just longer blonde hair as visible in the 2nd photo.

Awesome find!!! The mind certainly can do tricks on you. Now it is obvious that it is hair and not a cap. LOL!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 19, 2017, 04:50:39 AM
I also don't get how fear of heights should affect a team lol, did many of you not watch 29? :lol:

You should!
I was just repeating what Phil said at the start of TAR 30 at Washington Square! Nobody would get how it would affect because as he said it was a twist this season! If it is a normal thing, why would he bring it up at the start and it would not be called a twist.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 07:22:37 AM
I was there and I forgot about that until you said something. Thanks SO much!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 19, 2017, 08:51:13 AM
I took this at JFK. The circle is Petr.
   
 
Petr has on black New Balance in this pic Peach took. The pic of the guy with his back to the camera with Jody at the pit stop does not have on black New Balance. So confused   :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amcelwee on October 19, 2017, 08:54:01 AM
Black Nikes is a girl.  Petr is standing next to her holding the camera with black New Balance (I think)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 08:57:12 AM
I took this at JFK. The circle is Petr.
   
 
Petr has on black New Balance in this pic Peach took. The pic of the guy with his back to the camera with Jody at the pit stop does not have on black New Balance. So confused   :spy:

Those were different days.. He works for production he could have multiple pairs of shoes.. But if you look at the picture that was taken on the same day you can tell the guy in the photo with Jody is obviously Petr not a twin.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sawyer on October 19, 2017, 08:57:21 AM
Black Nikes is a girl.  Petr is standing next to her holding the camera with black New Balance (I think)
 
 
yes , I have already corrected my original post. had Nike on the brain I guess. They are still different shoes from the other pic at the pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 09:48:28 AM
Credit to TarJr for the find. Posted in Live sightings, a tweet of a meeting with Phil in Bahrain.  Id link to TarJr's post, but Im forum challenged.  Any other Bahrain speculation or info?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: mylomilk on October 19, 2017, 09:51:45 AM
The tweet shows your local time, so it was posted 4 hours ago, 1:43pm local time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 09:56:52 AM
The tweet shows your local time, so it was posted 4 hours ago, 1:43pm local time

Thanks!  If it was posted 9:36 am my local time (Eastern), it would have been posted 1.5 ago which would have been 4:30 PM Bahrain time? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 19, 2017, 10:01:12 AM
Credit to TarJr for the find. Posted in Live sightings, a tweet of a meeting with Phil in Bahrain.  Id link to TarJr's post, but Im forum challenged.  Any other Bahrain speculation or info?

Well there was an tweet also talking from TAR in Bahrain from yesterday, but we didn't believe it was us because the building in the background is located in Canada:

Quote
40‏ @ffsEman 18 oct.

I JUST REALLY CANT WAIT @Salah_AlSayed93

(https://image.ibb.co/eLrNQm/DMa_85n_X4_AAXLVP.jpg)

She's from Bahrain.

And there's another cryptic tweet from five hours ago:

40‏ @ffsEman 5 h

Let the race begin
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: michael on October 19, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
Credit to TarJr for the find. Posted in Live sightings, a tweet of a meeting with Phil in Bahrain.  Id link to TarJr's post, but Im forum challenged.  Any other Bahrain speculation or info?

Well there was an tweet also talking from TAR in Bahrain from yesterday, but we didn't believe it was us because the building in the background is located in Canada:

Quote
40‏ @ffsEman 18 oct.

I JUST REALLY CANT WAIT @Salah_AlSayed93

(https://image.ibb.co/eLrNQm/DMa_85n_X4_AAXLVP.jpg)

She's from Bahrain.

And there's another cryptic tweet from five hours ago:

40‏ @ffsEman 5 h

Let the race begin

That is Ottawa.......
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 10:11:13 AM
I think the Bahrain sighting is a troll job
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 19, 2017, 10:20:46 AM
It sounds like she knew there were coming to Bahrain and just looked up a clue box pic.

That is what I already speculated when it was posted. I thought she perhaps used a clue box pic she liked. Or maybe one that seemed innocent. The other possibility - which someone else mentioned is that she was coming to Canada.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 10:21:54 AM
I just saw that the person who posted the new Bahrain sighting is from Pennsylvania...

We heard you the first time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 10:23:57 AM
I just saw that the person who posted the new Bahrain sighting is from Pennsylvania...

I think this is a troll job

The girl who posted pics from Iceland was there for work, she was American.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 19, 2017, 10:26:39 AM
I just saw that the person who posted the new Bahrain sighting is from Pennsylvania...

I think this is a troll job

Is there anything in his TL that suggests he would troll???? I don't see anything. He could be traveling too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: mylomilk on October 19, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
The tweet shows your local time, so it was posted 4 hours ago, 1:43pm local time

Thanks!  If it was posted 9:36 am my local time (Eastern), it would have been posted 1.5 ago which would have been 4:30 PM Bahrain time?

Yea sorry you are right, I'm not sure why it shows differently on my desktop than phone... It's indeed 4:43pm local time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 10:39:01 AM
Can we stick to the FACTS and THE SIGHTINGS please?

ALL info is evaluated.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 19, 2017, 10:39:18 AM
Like my mom's friend from the USA is in Bahrain atm for work, so it's not impossible at all for an American to spot TAR there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 10:42:25 AM
not impossible no but you would think somebody who met/recognized phil and the crew out in a random country and tweeted about it would have gotten and uploaded a picture or something..

It makes me skeptical he has no pics.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 10:44:11 AM
I'm suspicous because the girl posted the Canadian TAR pic and now this person tweeted about a Bahrain sighting. It's almost like they got their info from the first girl and then spun a lie out of it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 10:50:35 AM
I have some reason to think this may be FAKE.

Let's continue the search please . ALL hands need to be searching Keep your posts concise and on target please.

Searching is more helpful than blahblah right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Tammynauck on October 19, 2017, 10:55:44 AM
Awe, 😞twins were eliminated. So how many teams are left now? Gotta be winding down pretty quickly
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 19, 2017, 01:42:19 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 01:43:29 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.

Agree.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 01:43:45 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.

but cody has his backpack on so it would almost have to be..  That would at the very least mean she saw them at some point during the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 01:44:31 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.
She knew they were coming to Bahrain. She just posted a general pic of the clue box.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 01:46:51 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.

Any evidence to prove its not? :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 01:49:28 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.
She knew they were coming to Bahrain. She just posted a general pic of the clue box.
Yep looks like a friend told her where and when so she knew exactly where they would be.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 19, 2017, 01:49:47 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.

Any evidence to prove its not? :spy:
No. It's my opinion. But do you really think they posed for her and she just happened to put the crown filter on the pic? And why not take a pic with some context that proves where they are?

They could very well be in Bahrain, but I'm not convinced.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
Any evidence to prove it is?  We can certainly continue to evaluate this. But photo appears photoshopped and there is no corroborating evidence. Previous post suggests intent to deceive. I suggest caution while we research.

Let's continue.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 01:50:50 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.

Agree.

Im getting a troll vibe , need more than just that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 01:50:57 PM
What was photoshopped?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 01:58:22 PM
The latest tweet in the live sightings thread is from the same person who posted the pic of the Canadian Parliament.  I don't believe it's a true Jody sighting.

Any evidence to prove its not? :spy:
No. It's my opinion. But do you really think they posed for her and she just happened to put the crown filter on the pic? And why not take a pic with some context that proves where they are?

They could very well be in Bahrain, but I'm not convinced.

Yes I do believe she put the crown filter on those pics ... and because she doesn't care about TAR she just cares about meeting Jess and Cody.

https://twitter.com/ffsEman/with_replies

You can look at her tweets she posted through the day. Looks like she was VERY happy.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 01:59:54 PM
Phil posted an Instagram video in Bahrain.

The Jody photo is a FACT
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 02:00:56 PM
the girl clearly knows english so of course I could believe Jody would take a picture for her despite being a hurry....

Any person who speaks english in a foriegn country is a valuable asset in the race when it comes to getting help/directions.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 02:01:34 PM
I believe this girl met them after the race was over. She knows that they finished in the top 4.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 19, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
So twins were eliminated at 6th place, and F5 consists of all 3 MF teams, skiers and mystery MM team? Correct? Thanks for answer.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 19, 2017, 02:01:53 PM
Phil posted an Instagram video in Bahrain.

The Jody photo is a FACT

Yeah I think so. I compared with background of his video. It definitely looks like he is standing near the famour "Tree of Life" in Bahrain. So teams should be at least there, right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 02:02:00 PM
Where is Phil at right now?  :funny:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BacIy97AruX/?taken-by=philiminator
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 19, 2017, 02:02:31 PM
Phil posted an Instagram video in Bahrain.

The Jody photo is a FACT

I would not jump to that conclusion, even if Phil is in Bahrain we don't know when that video was taken.

Its far from a confirmation of the other photo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 02:03:28 PM
The girl is Bahrain and Phil is in Bahrain. She knew someone involved in production. That's how she got to meet them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 02:04:05 PM
If Phil is in Bahrain that's as good as it gets. I think this is a FIRST from him?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 19, 2017, 02:05:00 PM
The girl is Bahrain and Phil is in Bahrain. She knew someone involved in production. That's how she got to meet them.
Phil 'might' be in Bahrain, who knows when that video was taken  :)

As for the Jody photo we have no way to verify that it was taken during this leg or sometime else in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 02:05:35 PM
She's in Bahrain....

Where else would it be taken?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 19, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
The girl who took a pic of jody says they made top 4 whatever that means. they also look happy
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
The girl who took a pic of jody says they made top 4 whatever that means. they also look happy

Yep that is Cody's happy face 😂😂
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 02:07:44 PM
Well, has it ever really been Phil's style to make an on-site post from somewhere he's not currently at?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 02:09:10 PM
The girl who took a pic of jody says they made top 4 whatever that means. they also look happy

While I do think they're still in the race, they're POSING in the photo; it's not candid. Of course they're going to try to look happy if someone asks to take a photo of them. I don't think you should read into how they look in it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 02:11:03 PM
She said they finished in top 4. that's straight from the source's mouth.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 02:11:53 PM
agreed.. And that is where sources often make mistakes is when they assume a teams position.. I do believe she saw them but I wouldn't trust they made it to top 4 yet..

1) in order for her to know that she would have had to of seen or talked to them AFTER the leg was completely over.
2) IT could have very easily been a NEL and all teams made it to leg 10 and they just don't know it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 19, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
agreed.. And that is where sources often make mistakes is when they assume a teams position.. I do believe she saw them but I wouldn't trust they made it to top 4 yet..

1) in order for her to know that she would have had to of seen or talked to them AFTER the leg was completely over.
2) IT could have very easily been a NEL and all teams made it to leg 10 and they just don't know it.

agreed, we are just reporting what the source said.

also im no amazing race super fan, but dont they usually do a NEL on final 4 leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: michael on October 19, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
Peach.... wtf has happened here in my 3 year absence from the website :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 19, 2017, 02:16:09 PM
Even though it doesn’t prove definitely as fact, Looking at her post through the day it does seem like she was told by someone where to catch them. Hopefully she posts more info or pics as proof
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: clemsonbeav on October 19, 2017, 02:18:01 PM
IF Phil vid is current and from the race, then Tree of Life seems like a good place for pitstop...maybe?  (But I have no evidence for that...just seems like a cool place to have it.)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lexie on October 19, 2017, 02:20:54 PM
She said they finished in top 4. that's straight from the source's mouth.
Reading through her Twitter feed, it appeared to me that the Jody fans were wrongly assuming they were in the F4, just like they have been assuming that Jody has placed either first or second in every leg of the race.  I need to learn Jody math - how they went from six teams in Harare to four teams in Bahrain in less than 24 hours is mind-boggling.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 02:23:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ffsEman/status/921082428529266688

She says "They are still in the top 4"

The Harare leg took 6 down to 5.

This leg took 5 down to 4.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 02:24:40 PM
She said they finished in top 4. that's straight from the source's mouth.
Reading through her Twitter feed, it appeared to me that the Jody fans were wrongly assuming they were in the F4, just like they have been assuming that Jody has placed either first or second in every leg of the race.  I need to learn Jody math - how they went from six teams in Harare to four teams in Bahrain in less than 24 hours is mind-boggling.

to be fair the source did say they made top 4 so of course they are going to assume that.  They don't realize though that sources are soo often mistaken on what they saw.   

Definelty can't trust that piece of info without proof... Not that the girl is lying but she could very easily just be mistaken about something.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 02:26:00 PM
She said they finished in top 4. that's straight from the source's mouth.
Reading through her Twitter feed, it appeared to me that the Jody fans were wrongly assuming they were in the F4, just like they have been assuming that Jody has placed either first or second in every leg of the race.  I need to learn Jody math - how they went from six teams in Harare to four teams in Bahrain in less than 24 hours is mind-boggling.

6 teams arrived in Harare where Twins were eliminated taking it down to 5 teams. Allegedly, the leg in Bahrain is over and another team has been eliminated taking it down to 4 teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 02:26:09 PM
She said they finished in top 4. that's straight from the source's mouth.
Reading through her Twitter feed, it appeared to me that the Jody fans were wrongly assuming they were in the F4, just like they have been assuming that Jody has placed either first or second in every leg of the race.  I need to learn Jody math - how they went from six teams in Harare to four teams in Bahrain in less than 24 hours is mind-boggling.

Because 6-1 = 5 and 5 - 1 = 4
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lexie on October 19, 2017, 02:35:43 PM
She said they finished in top 4. that's straight from the source's mouth.
Reading through her Twitter feed, it appeared to me that the Jody fans were wrongly assuming they were in the F4, just like they have been assuming that Jody has placed either first or second in every leg of the race.  I need to learn Jody math - how they went from six teams in Harare to four teams in Bahrain in less than 24 hours is mind-boggling.

6 teams arrived in Harare where Twins were eliminated taking it down to 5 teams. Allegedly, the leg in Bahrain is over and another team has been eliminated taking it down to 4 teams. 

Thanks - I don't know why I thought the Harare leg was possibly an NEL (I guess since they were all standing around eating ice cream)  Of course, after going to bed last night and waking up this morning to 5 pages in this thread, there was no way I was going to sift through it to see what was going on.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 02:47:57 PM
Peach.... wtf has happened here in my 3 year absence from the website :P

God love you sweetie. Welcome HOME!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 02:50:39 PM
Well, has it ever really been Phil's style to make an on-site post from somewhere he's not currently at?

Not that I can recall.....Seems MOST unusual to give us a freebie spoiler. :funny:

He has worn that hat and shirt before though...lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 19, 2017, 02:54:37 PM
Do we think they've traveled and completed a leg today?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 19, 2017, 02:55:15 PM
'The Tree of Life (Shajarat-al-Hayat) in Bahrain is an approximately 400 year-old, 9.75 m (32 ft) high Prosopis cineraria tree. The tree stands on top of a 7.6 m (25 ft) high sandy tell that formed around a 500-year-old fortress. The tree is a local tourist attraction, visited by approximately 50,000 tourists every year.'

Lots of visitors to The Tree of Life and no other images found.

It is less than an hours flight from Bahrain to AbuDhabi.  It would have been easy for Phil to fly over to visit the Tree of Life in honor of Spirit Day outside of the race, film his contribution, and join up with production back in AbuDhabi.   And just as easy for the twitter user to fly over to AbuDhabi to capture an image of Jody in the airport during a connection.   The twitter image does appear like a food court lounge area in an airport.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Do we think they've traveled and completed a leg today?

Yes I think the leg was likely over hours ago.  it is currently 11 pm there lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 02:59:41 PM


It is less than an hours flight from Bahrain to AbuDhabi.  It would have been easy for Phil to fly over to visit the Tree of Life in honor of Spirit Day outside of the race, film his contribution, and join up with production back in AbuDhabi.   And just as easy for the twitter user to fly over to AbuDhabi to capture an image of Jody in the airport during a connection.   The twitter image does appear like a food court lounge area in an airport.



Not understanding...why Abu Dhabi?? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 03:05:26 PM
I think she got Abu Dhabi and Dubai mixed up.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 19, 2017, 03:05:56 PM

It is less than an hours flight from Bahrain to AbuDhabi.  It would have been easy for Phil to fly over to visit the Tree of Life in honor of Spirit Day outside of the race, film his contribution, and join up with production back in AbuDhabi.   And just as easy for the twitter user to fly over to AbuDhabi to capture an image of Jody in the airport during a connection.   The twitter image does appear like a food court lounge area in an airport.

you mean Dubai?

it's possible but i don't really get connection between Spirit Day and Tree of Life to fly specifically there for 30 sec instagram video
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
Piper has a point, seems random that Phil would go out of his way to another country during the race, even if it is a short flight, just for that. I'm not getting the "peace" connection, either.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 19, 2017, 03:15:06 PM
Darn that spellchecker - it was really working after all.  Sorry about that mixup.

Point was if production left Zimbabwe earlier than racers, and there was a connection near Bahrain, it would be fairly easy for Phil to travel over and then meetup with production later. Same for the twitter user if she had a head's up.

Only one twitter image and Phil's video - just being cautious is all.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on October 19, 2017, 03:15:52 PM
Well, has it ever really been Phil's style to make an on-site post from somewhere he's not currently at?

Not that I can recall.....Seems MOST unusual to give us a freebie spoiler. :funny:

He has worn that hat and shirt before though...lol.

Didn't Phil posted a pic in Season 25 in Italy? And that's how we found him  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Xoruz on October 19, 2017, 03:32:05 PM
Darn that spellchecker - it was really working after all.  Sorry about that mixup.

Point was if production left Zimbabwe earlier than racers, and there was a connection near Bahrain, it would be fairly easy for Phil to travel over and then meetup with production later. Same for the twitter user if she had a head's up.

Only one twitter image and Phil's video - just being cautious is all.

The Tree of Life is in southern Bahrain, and the nation only has one civilian airport on the northern tip. So, travel to the tree to film a Spirit Day video would be more difficult than just a short flight.

Stunami, I believe Phil did post a photo in Sicily as well as a kasbah photo in Morocco.

 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 03:33:11 PM
https://twitter.com/ffsEman/status/921082428529266688

She says "They are still in the top 4"

The Harare leg took 6 down to 5.

This leg took 5 down to 4.

Based on previous years (and excluding a possible "twist), isn't too early to be at final 4? What leg is this?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 03:33:26 PM
The girl who took a pic of jody says they made top 4 whatever that means. they also look happy

That's interesting in itself. How would she KNOW that? Did she see the leg? A racer would DEFINITELY not be able to tell a bystander that. It's a puzzle! ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 03:35:20 PM
https://twitter.com/ffsEman/status/921082428529266688

She says "They are still in the top 4"

The Harare leg took 6 down to 5.

This leg took 5 down to 4.

Based on previous years (and excluding a possible "twist), isn't too early to be at final 4? What leg is this?

Based on what about previous years would lead you to believe it's too early to be at F4? We're 19 days in.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Trying to figure that out. We are at leg 8/9? Isn't usually 10-11? I may be wrong, or missing something
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 03:37:14 PM
She says in the TOP 4..not the FINAL 4. There is a difference. Too soon for final 4.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 03:38:42 PM
Based on previous years (and excluding a possible "twist), isn't too early to be at final 4? What leg is this?

Well, Seasons 12 and 13 were final 4 at episode 9. But were shortened by a leg, too, they were back during the long writer's strike, it wouldn't happen again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 03:39:06 PM
That was my thinking. Just questioning claims that this was an elimination leg and took it from 5 to 4
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 03:39:38 PM


Based on what about previous years would lead you to believe it's too early to be at F4? We're 19 days in.

Final 4 is the last leg before the Finale. The "penultimate" leg. We are at least a couple of days from that. But it doesn't matter...from what I see she said in the TOP 4...not the FINAL 4. That's a huge difference.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
She says in the TOP 4..not the FINAL 4. There is a difference. Too soon for final 4.

She replied yes to someone who asked if that photo is from today's leg. If it's too soon for F4, then the leg they just completed is NEL?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 19, 2017, 03:47:19 PM
While i agree that Top 4 doesn't mean Final 4, i am confused why people so sure it's impossible to be F4. They had F5 eliminaton in Leg 9 in TAR25, they could do it again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodyfan on October 19, 2017, 03:53:28 PM
Don't understand why it couldn't be top 4. They only have about 5 days left to hit 24 days. They also need time to travel, which takes a leg 1-2 days.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 03:54:29 PM
Technically if this leg today was leg 9 than it could be down to 4.  Leg 10 could be a NEL. Then leg 11 could go from 4-3 and then the final.  Not sure what to make of what she said though. I would take it with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 03:56:12 PM
In an average season nowadays, they double up on 3 countries (making 9-10 countries including US). So we have France, quite possibly Zimbabwe, meaning another likely wherever they're going in Asia.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TeamBB on October 19, 2017, 03:57:38 PM
also keep in mind they only started with 11 teams compared to the usual 12 teams.  Top 4 isn't that impossible at all. maybe there was only 1 NEL round this year. Just a thought!!!!  :spy: :spy: :knock: :knock: :hosed :margarita: :BBored
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 19, 2017, 04:00:06 PM
also keep in mind they only started with 11 teams compared to the usual 12 teams.  Top 4 isn't that impossible at all. maybe there was only 1 NEL round this year. Just a thought!!!!  :spy: :spy: :knock: :knock: :hosed :margarita: :BBored

The exception is 12 teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 04:02:00 PM
OK didnt mean to set us off on another tangent.  Back to finding info...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 19, 2017, 04:09:24 PM
So, I guess I'm trying to work out the timing of each leg. We might have had two NELs, correct? Because, from the information gathered here, unless my math is off (and please correct me on my information if it's wrong), this is what I've got:

Leg 1: Reykjavik, Iceland (October 2) 11-10
Leg 2: Antwerp, Belgium (October 4) 10-9
Leg 3: Tangier, Morocco (October 6) NEL
Leg 4: Saint-Tropez, France (October 8 ) 9-8
Leg 5: Arles, France (October 9/10) 8-7
Leg 6: Prague, Czechia (October 12) 7-6
Leg 7: Harare, Zimbabwe (October 15/16) Possible NEL/TBC
Leg 8: Harare, Zimbabwe (October 16/17) 6-5
Leg 9: Bahrain (October 19) 5-4

I don't know if my dates are off (I think my Leg 7-9 dates get muddled so please correct me on those particular dates!) so that's why I think, unless this recent leg is also the final NEL, that it's quite possible that we're down to final 4. I think it would make sense, especially if they're going to be back in the US by Sunday/Monday for the final leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 04:11:49 PM
Don't think Bahrain is a definite yet, but the timing of Phil's clip to that other girl is a little coincidental.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 19, 2017, 04:16:47 PM
Don't think Bahrain is a definite yet, but the timing of Phil's clip to that other girl is a little coincidental.

True. So possibly Bahrain, but also possibly some other country!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 04:34:14 PM
Technically if this leg today was leg 9 than it could be down to 4.  Leg 10 could be a NEL. Then leg 11 could go from 4-3 and then the final.  Not sure what to make of what she said though. I would take it with a grain of salt.

That's it! Unless we missed a leg which would confuse us more.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 04:35:15 PM
So, I guess I'm trying to work out the timing of each leg. We might have had two NELs, correct? Because, from the information gathered here, unless my math is off (and please correct me on my information if it's wrong), this is what I've got:

Leg 1: Reykjavik, Iceland (October 2) 11-10
Leg 2: Antwerp, Belgium (October 4) 10-9
Leg 3: Tangier, Morocco (October 6) NEL
Leg 4: Saint-Tropez, France (October 8 ) 9-8
Leg 5: Arles, France (October 9/10) 8-7
Leg 6: Prague, Czechia (October 12) 7-6
Leg 7: Harare, Zimbabwe (October 15/16) Possible NEL/TBC
Leg 8: Harare, Zimbabwe (October 16/17) 6-5
Leg 9: Bahrain (October 19) 5-4

I don't know if my dates are off (I think my Leg 7-9 dates get muddled so please correct me on those particular dates!) so that's why I think, unless this recent leg is also the final NEL, that it's quite possible that we're down to final 4. I think it would make sense, especially if they're going to be back in the US by Sunday/Monday for the final leg.

You can look at the TIMELINE as well. Oval is AMAZING!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: G~Ann on October 19, 2017, 04:42:37 PM
#TAR30 tweeter feed has a pic of two teams if any one want to check that out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 19, 2017, 04:44:37 PM
#TAR30 tweeter feed has a pic of two teams if any one want to check that out.
Just saw that over on twitter. Looks like skiers and Indy drivers. Didn’t see any source but maybe one will come
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 04:50:19 PM
Indy STill in!! Hang on!

I kept thinking those guys in cargo pants standing talking to the other woman in Harare looked an awful lot like Indy from the side, but this thread managed to convince me it was the twins.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 19, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
There is a video on his story of someone jumping into water off of a ship. Not sure if it is the pitstop or not. Phil is there with a pink team?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 19, 2017, 04:57:21 PM
Trying to figure that out. We are at leg 8/9? Isn't usually 10-11? I may be wrong, or missing something

Probably leg 8 and it is proof to be true. My gut thinks that Bahrain could be the 8th leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 04:59:36 PM
The Tree of Life could have certainly been a location, then?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 19, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
That's awesome that we finally found our Mystery M/M team after searching for them for several legs. I'm actually excited that it's them.

So...does that mean that Violinists definitely went out on the Prague leg, then? I mean, maybe not definitely because we can't be 100% certain right now, but probably?

But then who went out for the Harare Leg? Debaters?

And then Twins are said to have gotten out on this now confirmed Bahrain leg?

I just want to double check my information, because of so many false reports and confusing speculation the last three days.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 19, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
Trying to figure that out. We are at leg 8/9? Isn't usually 10-11? I may be wrong, or missing something

Probably leg 8 and it is proof to be true. My gut thinks that Bahrain could be the 8th leg.

My gut is still feeling they were in Zimbabwe to long and this is leg 9
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 05:03:31 PM
That's awesome that we finally found our Mystery M/M team after searching for them for several legs. I'm actually excited that it's them.

So...does that mean that Violinists definitely went out on the Prague leg, then? I mean, maybe not definitely because we can't be 100% certain right now, but probably?

But then who went out for the Harare Leg? Debaters?

And then Twins are said to have gotten out on this now confirmed Bahrain leg?

I just want to double check my information, because of so many false reports and confusing speculation the last three days.

No, Twins were eliminated in Harare.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 19, 2017, 05:03:52 PM
http://instagram.com/maaziwaazi
Has he removed the photo/video? I don't see it om his IG.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 05:04:32 PM
It's in his instagram story
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 19, 2017, 05:04:48 PM
It's in his instagram story
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 05:05:09 PM
http://instagram.com/maaziwaazi
Has he removed the photo/video? I don't see it om his IG.

He has a lot of great photos and footage in his Instagram story. You should use Chrome browser and click on his profile photo to view it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 19, 2017, 05:07:01 PM
So the remaining teams in todays leg were

skiers
jody
debaters
lifeguards
indy

one of them or none of them got eliminated today.

 :conf:

yay no more confusion about the last m/m team
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 19, 2017, 05:12:59 PM
That's awesome that we finally found our Mystery M/M team after searching for them for several legs. I'm actually excited that it's them.

So...does that mean that Violinists definitely went out on the Prague leg, then? I mean, maybe not definitely because we can't be 100% certain right now, but probably?

But then who went out for the Harare Leg? Debaters?

And then Twins are said to have gotten out on this now confirmed Bahrain leg?

I just want to double check my information, because of so many false reports and confusing speculation the last three days.

No, Twins were eliminated in Harare.

Ok, now I'm not confused anymore! Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 05:18:28 PM
That is a tinier country than I thought, actually took a minute to figure it out on a map :lol: But we've had smaller (Liechtensein, Malta, Monaco, etc)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 19, 2017, 05:22:07 PM
One men's team, one women's team, and all three coed teams who started the race are still in it?  Or were in it at the time of those pics being posted?  Nice.  Once again, love that CBS got some major karma with four of the five men's teams dropping in a row!

So to make sure, with Indy at last confirmed to still be in, this means the Eaters are out, right?

So that makes the boot order:

11th: Ring Girls
10th: Yoga Moms
9th: Eaters
8th: NBA
7th: Violinists (good to get confirmation that the U-Turn took them out, after all)
6th: Twins

Leaving:

Cody & Jessica
Debaters
Lifeguards
Indy
Skiers

Pretty nice, gender-balanced F5.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 19, 2017, 05:23:43 PM
Don’t know which between Eaters/Basketball went out first officially
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
Is that Cody in his camo hat standing behind Indy and Skiers??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 19, 2017, 05:33:39 PM
Don’t know which between Eaters/Basketball went out first officially

I feel like the snippet of the Mat Chat for basketball in St. Tropez about them 'getting through' in spite of the SB (paraphrased) suggests they survived that leg thus Eaters in 9th and Basketball in 8th.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Firestone on October 19, 2017, 05:58:55 PM
According go the Twitter use who just posted Jessica and Cody checking in, they came in 4th for the Bahrain leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
She's at the pit stop......

Check the live sightings thread
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 19, 2017, 06:06:49 PM
According go the Twitter use who just posted Jessica and Cody checking in, they came in 4th for the Bahrain leg.
We have that already, please scroll up.

And we can't trust her yet, we don't know that she was at the pit stop to know this for sure. As Peach said, the racers themselves would not be allowed to reveal such information.
Even if the info is true, it's very ambiguous. TOP4 could mean many things, not just that they finished the leg in 4th place.
But didn’t she also has a video for them to checking in? Hearing the placement would only take at most five mins though. Judging from the video, she is not that far away from Phil and the team. I assume that is not too long to stick around.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 19, 2017, 06:10:57 PM
Hearing Phil tell them they came in 4th at the pit stop is prob what the poster meant by top 4

They may not have stuck around to find out what happened to 5th place (elim/non-elim)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 19, 2017, 06:12:18 PM
Hearing Phil tell them they came in 4th at the pit stop is prob what the poster meant by top 4

They may not have stuck around to find out what happened to 5th place (elim/non-elim)

yeah probably but I think she probably heard 4th place indeed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 19, 2017, 06:13:20 PM
Looks like the original Instagram video has been edited cutting out the teams pictures. 😋
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 19, 2017, 06:18:18 PM
Who Instagram
Looks like the original Instagram video has been edited cutting out the teams pictures. 😋
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 19, 2017, 06:19:26 PM
https://twitter.com/ffsEman/status/921146655952572416

Running to the mat.

That first photo really did look like a food court from what we could see of the background, same original source.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 19, 2017, 06:29:26 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 19, 2017, 06:31:03 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They are athletes. Maybe they are just very good.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 06:33:56 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They've won medals in competitions like the X-Games. I don't understand why you're "flabbergasted."
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 06:34:30 PM
TeamJody are saying lifeguards are out. That diving challenge tho.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 19, 2017, 06:39:10 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They've won medals in competitions like the X-Games. I don't understand why you're "flabbergasted."

from the seasons ive watched the line up from each leg usually changes, ive never seen a season where 1 team always stays in the lead. I hope its fun to watch atleast !
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 19, 2017, 06:42:40 PM
TeamJody are saying lifeguards are out. That diving challenge tho.
Really? Wasn’t that same source saying she did not know who was 5th? Did they have new sightings?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 06:43:58 PM
in the pic with Indy, can't you see Jody, the female debater, and skiers?

maybe that's why they think lifeguards are out??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 06:44:16 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They've won medals in competitions like the X-Games. I don't understand why you're "flabbergasted."

from the seasons ive watched the line up from each leg usually changes, ive never seen a season where 1 team always stays in the lead. I hope its fun to watch atleast !

I don't understand. Are you implying that Skiers are the one team that always stays in the lead? I don't know what would lead you to believe that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: selfeviction on October 19, 2017, 06:45:31 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They've won medals in competitions like the X-Games. I don't understand why you're "flabbergasted."

from the seasons ive watched the line up from each leg usually changes, ive never seen a season where 1 team always stays in the lead. I hope its fun to watch atleast !
we don't know what placements they got in the beginning of the race
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
TeamJody are saying lifeguards are out. That diving challenge tho.
Really? Wasn’t that same source saying she did not know who was 5th? Did they have new sightings?

They may have talked to the man who got the final flag souvinere
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 06:47:13 PM
TeamJody are saying lifeguards are out. That diving challenge tho.
Really? Wasn’t that same source saying she did not know who was 5th? Did they have new sightings?

They may have talked to the man who got the final flag souvinere

Are you completely guessing that this happened...?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 19, 2017, 06:51:42 PM
TeamJody are saying lifeguards are out. That diving challenge tho.
Really? Wasn’t that same source saying she did not know who was 5th? Did they have new sightings?

They may have talked to the man who got the final flag souvinere

Are you completely guessing that this happened...?
I saw someone posted that but I thought it was a joke with the pic he posted.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 06:52:51 PM
1) no personal comments
2) source your info please
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 06:54:50 PM
No personal comments please
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 19, 2017, 07:00:35 PM
STOP!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 19, 2017, 07:02:49 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They've won medals in competitions like the X-Games. I don't understand why you're "flabbergasted."

from the seasons ive watched the line up from each leg usually changes, ive never seen a season where 1 team always stays in the lead. I hope its fun to watch atleast !

Go watch TAR 27. Justin and Diana won 7 legs including 5 in a row from legs 6-10. Justin was pretty cocky about it too which turned a lot of people off. In the end though they didn't win the final leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 07:12:16 PM
1) No personal comments
2) OFF TOPIC
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 19, 2017, 07:22:54 PM
Any guesses about what those bars are in the video?  Thanks for posting the stills from that in the Live Sightings thread GeorgiaPeach.

That could have been Jessica taking the dive, but it's blurry, I think so though.  That water must have felt good in the desert, and whomever it was?  NICE dive.  Ha.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2017, 07:26:53 PM
Guys, remember: SHOW RESPECT TO EACH OTHER.

NO PERSONAL COMMENTS ARE EVER APPROPRIATE.

Review your words before you post.

Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 19, 2017, 07:27:23 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They've won medals in competitions like the X-Games. I don't understand why you're "flabbergasted."

from the seasons ive watched the line up from each leg usually changes, ive never seen a season where 1 team always stays in the lead. I hope its fun to watch atleast !

Go watch TAR 27. Justin and Diana won 7 legs including 5 in a row from legs 6-10. Justin was pretty cocky about it too which turned a lot of people off. In the end though they didn't win the final leg.

Or TAR20 with Dave & Rachel, who won 8 legs - including the final leg (and the race and the million dollars) - and still hold the record for the highest amount of first places in a single season.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 19, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
TeamJody are saying lifeguards are out. That diving challenge tho.

Lifeguards being eliminated for failing in a DIVING challenge? I can believe that they're out but, I have trouble making sense that it was due to a task that's an aquatic sport; that's in their wheelhouse.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 07:44:15 PM
You all do realize the order can change each leg so easily right? Look at the lifeguards from first to last like that boom.  The goal for each leg is to not get last
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: smiley on October 19, 2017, 07:51:40 PM
Where is posted/confirmed that the lifeguards are last? Pretty sure this is what Peach is talking about, people.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 19, 2017, 08:00:47 PM
If I’m being honest, I stopped following the race (aside from what I stumble upon in the recent posts area) because certain people were making/believing false claims as long as they made a certain team appear to be safe or still in the race. However, were unable to provide evidence.

I want my favorite player to win Big Brother.. or Survivor.. but I don’t post false info to make myself believe they are doing better than they really are.


Ok that was my 2 cents. Happy racing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 08:06:42 PM
Presuming this probably won't be a two-leg country. Its square mileage is way smaller than Bali or Zanzibar (295 sq m)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 19, 2017, 08:10:53 PM
Nor will they take a boat over to Doha, having already visited Tangier.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 08:31:27 PM
Aren't the final 4 teams visible in this pic??? http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Bahrain/Bahrain%20maaziwaazi.jpg

skii, indy, jody in back and debater female??? right?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 19, 2017, 08:36:20 PM
Just a completely random guess - but that picture of the "final flag souvenir" and the potential outfits on the right side of the screen; dance task?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 19, 2017, 08:37:28 PM
I think people are just saying that because we haven't really seen them this leg

NOT seen does not mean NOT there, they could've been ahead for all we know

Or it could've been an NEL

Not enough evidence to really say
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 19, 2017, 08:38:01 PM
If that is true about e lifeguards going from first to last that is absolutely crazy especially on the diving challenge? I'd have to guess it wasn't the challenge itself maybe they got lost and was last to show up to it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 19, 2017, 08:49:54 PM
Im flabbergasted how the skiers seem to have been doing so well in all these legs! they must have the luck of the angels or something. Hoping the next area they go to its an even playing field again and no time advantages from signing in at the pitstop. These last few legs will be so predictable on the show with them always leading.

They've won medals in competitions like the X-Games. I don't understand why you're "flabbergasted."

from the seasons ive watched the line up from each leg usually changes, ive never seen a season where 1 team always stays in the lead. I hope its fun to watch atleast !
Check out TAR13, TAR15, and TAR20, then.  Those seasons had conditions exactly like what you said.  Three of the most predictable seasons ever.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 19, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
If that is true about e lifeguards going from first to last that is absolutely crazy especially on the diving challenge? I'd have to guess it wasn't the challenge itself maybe they got lost and was last to show up to it

Wouldn't be the first time it happens, if that's the situation.

And navigation is a major issue on the race, with bad navigation being one of the motives of the downfall of a great number of teams during the previous seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: paradoxinee on October 19, 2017, 09:05:04 PM
Aren't the final 4 teams visible in this pic??? http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/Bahrain/Bahrain%20maaziwaazi.jpg

skii, indy, jody in back and debater female??? right?

I don't think that Cody because that guy looks taller than Cody is.
Anyway, that two blurred people behind Skiers and Indy are too difficult to say so we cannot say that it's Debaters and Jody.
And is the Twins confirmed to be eliminated last leg? It can be Debaters because we did not see them since Airport sighting before Harare.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 19, 2017, 09:08:51 PM
The task wasn't just a diving task. The wording on it says something about getting an answer wrong so they have to dive. So it's entirely conceivable the lifeguards could have botched it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 19, 2017, 09:13:16 PM
Czechia had photographic proof of a W-Turn at F7, and Zimbabwe an unpictured one at F6.

Seeing as Italy and Greece had W-Turns at the same elimination points last season, the chance of this season's third having appeared in France's earlier half at F9 is minuscule.

Could it have already surfaced in the latter French leg at F8?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 09:15:56 PM
Jess and Cody were U-Turned in Harare.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 19, 2017, 09:17:34 PM
How does that contradict the above?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 09:21:51 PM
oops. i thought there were usually only 2 u-turns.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 19, 2017, 09:23:27 PM
can a non elim leg happen at the final 4??? or do you all think maybe the all 3 have happened already???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 19, 2017, 09:24:41 PM
It's cool.

Two of the last three seasons have increased the count to three, which heavily suggests a trend towards more.

S27 did them at F8, F6, and F5.

S29 was F9, F7, and F6.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 09:25:35 PM
Usually there are 2, yes. Seasons 27 and 29 were the exceptions where they threw in a third U-Turn. 28 only had 2 (according to one team, one of them we didn't see because nobody used it)

And final 4 NELs have happened plenty of times. I kinda like them, keeps us in suspense of the final elimination for an extra week.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 19, 2017, 09:27:03 PM
The last true F4 NEL was during S25, the penultimate-finale twist for that season and the following one notwithstanding.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 19, 2017, 09:27:59 PM
NEL's haven't typically happened at Final 4 usually in the recent seasons, but anything is possible

I just think it would be weird for the timeline to not have at least one NEL left, whether it was Final 5 in Bahrain just now, or the next leg with Final 4

It would be very unorthodox for them to be in Bahrain with only one leg between it and the final leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 19, 2017, 09:28:19 PM
Seasons 27 and 29 were the exceptions where they threw in a third U-Turn. 

Being so recent, that sounds like what I wrote, "a trend towards more".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 19, 2017, 09:30:06 PM
NEL's haven't typically happened at Final 4 usually in the recent seasons, but anything is possible

I just think it would be weird for the timeline to not have at least one NEL left

True, this season's looking like either F9-F6-F4 or F9-F5-F4, both unlike any previous one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 10:04:23 PM
I think it will be a NEL next.  Then leg 11 will go from 4 to 3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 19, 2017, 11:31:39 PM
From this Jody check-in video, posted earlier https://mobile.twitter.com/ffsEman/status/921146655952572416/video/1

Looks like the Tree of Life is the Pit Stop? Phil must have taken that Instagram video while waiting there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 19, 2017, 11:50:58 PM
I'm confused as to where the confirmation is that the Lifeguards got eliminated in 5th?

I personally haven't seen it, but I might've just missed something? ???

Then again, people were adamant that they were out in St. Tropez, soooooo
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 19, 2017, 11:59:59 PM
not sure but there was no given proof the twins got eliminated in 6th but that ended up being proven true..

Clearly somebody has ties with production and can't reveal the source.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 20, 2017, 12:38:15 AM
No evidence of Lifeguards being out yet. I.e., no source, it's in rumour state so far I'd say.
Regarding twins, Peach confirmed they were out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: serendipity on October 20, 2017, 12:44:58 AM
Thanks, Alenaveda! This was from today's leg in Bahrain. I'm guessing that was where the pit stop was but you can't tell from the pictures. No real evidence there though there is at least one person next to the tree in one of the pictures. It also explains why Phil was tweeting a picture of the Tree of Life earlier.

I think the last picture shows a pitstop mat? Also just saw Phil Instagram video it seems he took it at some place around there?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 20, 2017, 03:00:33 AM
Call me Captain Oblivious! I completely missed seeing the mat.  :groan:  I think that it is the mat anyway. I'm glad I thought the rest of the picture was interesting enough to post. That undoubtedly is where Phil shot his video since he filmed the Tree of Life and that is the same Tree of Life in those pictures. I was searching on Tree of Life.

It just shows how different it is in Bahrain when what would be a medium sized tree in my area has a visitor center built for it there.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 20, 2017, 03:04:02 AM
Speaking of which, does visiting Bahrain finally mean a new country for the race?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 03:21:38 AM
Spec:
The Man who took the pics and the video is apparently affiliated with the Bahrain National Stadium. Perhaps there was a task there as well?  Cricket? Football? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 20, 2017, 05:28:26 AM
Spec:
The Man who took the pics and the video is apparently affiliated with the Bahrain National Stadium. Perhaps there was a task there as well?  Cricket? Football? ???

I am a cricket nerd and Peach, cricket is NOT played in Bahrain. Soccer, however, could be a real possibility!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 20, 2017, 07:53:50 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 08:26:58 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

Do you have any proof for that ? Moreover it could've been a NEL or a continue racing leg! Nobody knows.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on October 20, 2017, 08:30:41 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

i can't find any source/evidence about that in this thread, only video that saying Jody finished 4th. And no confirmation whether Bahrain was elimination or NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 20, 2017, 08:37:57 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

i can't find any source/evidence about that in this thread, only video that saying Jody finished 4th. And no confirmation whether Bahrain was elimination or NEL

true but as I stated before there was no source given for the twins going out 6th.. None what so ever and it was true.

Often sources can't be given because people will lose their jobs among other things.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 20, 2017, 08:42:52 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

Dan, is this from  source that can't be published or is there more evidence?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 08:44:52 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

i can't find any source/evidence about that in this thread, only video that saying Jody finished 4th. And no confirmation whether Bahrain was elimination or NEL

true but as I stated before there was no source given for the twins going out 6th.. None what so ever and it was true.

Often sources can't be given because people will lose their jobs among other things.
Thats such a cliche excuse used over and over. Nobody will lose his/her job. That chick from bahrain openly shared info of TAR happening. Then according to you, her job is gone ?
You can always share pic/convo by excluding the source name & face. Atleast we have something to work on rather than just "Ok this happened and simply believe me!"
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 20, 2017, 08:52:10 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

i can't find any source/evidence about that in this thread, only video that saying Jody finished 4th. And no confirmation whether Bahrain was elimination or NEL

true but as I stated before there was no source given for the twins going out 6th.. None what so ever and it was true.

Often sources can't be given because people will lose their jobs among other things.
Thats such a cliche excuse used over and over. Nobody will lose his/her job. That chick from bahrain openly shared info of TAR happening. Then according to you, her job is gone ?
You can always share pic/convo by excluding the source name & face. Atleast we have something to work on rather than just "Ok this happened and simply believe me!"

Even if they did you wouldn't believe it anyway because everyone on here doubts absoutely everything..  They would just say they are lying or that it doesn't prove anything. It is nearly impossible to prove anything about the race until the next leg comes along and you can see who isn't there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 08:55:40 AM
The way I see this forum is in three parts,
one being gathering bits of info via source & providing same to the forum
two being members of the forum scrutinizing that source info provided
three being, fora members filling the missing pieces of the puzzle which the source was unable to reveal through logic & reason.

The problem i'm seeing is that some people seem to be boasting their ego by keeping source info to themselves resulting in a situation where nothing is moving forward. Its all talk, a hollow hollow talk.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 20, 2017, 09:04:05 AM
The way I see this forum is in three parts,
one being gathering bits of info via source & providing same to the forum
two being members of the forum scrutinizing that source info provided
three being, fora members filling the missing pieces of the puzzle which the source was unable to reveal through logic & reason.

The problem i'm seeing is that some people seem to be boasting their ego by keeping source info to themselves resulting in a situation where nothing is moving forward. Its all talk, a hollow hollow talk.

Because every time anybody posts anything that they know everyone harrases them with "PROVE IT"  "I don't believe you"  etc..

But what you don't realize is it is extremely extremely hard to 100% prove something, even with pictures...  There is always going to be some doubt if you look for it.

If everyone keeps being rude to people than they just aren't going to bother giving out info and trying anymore..

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 09:04:15 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

i can't find any source/evidence about that in this thread, only video that saying Jody finished 4th. And no confirmation whether Bahrain was elimination or NEL

true but as I stated before there was no source given for the twins going out 6th.. None what so ever and it was true.

Often sources can't be given because people will lose their jobs among other things.
Thats such a cliche excuse used over and over. Nobody will lose his/her job. That chick from bahrain openly shared info of TAR happening. Then according to you, her job is gone ?
You can always share pic/convo by excluding the source name & face. Atleast we have something to work on rather than just "Ok this happened and simply believe me!"

Even if they did you wouldn't believe it anyway because everyone on here doubts absoutely everything..  They would just say they are lying or that it doesn't prove anything. It is nearly impossible to prove anything about the race until the next leg comes along and you can see who isn't there.
Ok. So thats the real reason! We can't even scrutinize the source info ? Nobody doubts the source. We believe you on that. What we scrutinize is the picture or conversation. Try to find out things hidden beneath the lines. But you want to take the sole role of making sense of the information I suppose! You might miss somethings that some experts here might identify.
Collaboration with agents possessing varied skill set always trumps Singular Work.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 09:12:43 AM
The way I see this forum is in three parts,
one being gathering bits of info via source & providing same to the forum
two being members of the forum scrutinizing that source info provided
three being, fora members filling the missing pieces of the puzzle which the source was unable to reveal through logic & reason.

The problem i'm seeing is that some people seem to be boasting their ego by keeping source info to themselves resulting in a situation where nothing is moving forward. Its all talk, a hollow hollow talk.

Because every time anybody posts anything that they know everyone harrases them with "PROVE IT"  "I don't believe you"  etc..

But what you don't realize is it is extremely extremely hard to 100% prove something, even with pictures...  There is always going to be some doubt if you look for it.

If everyone keeps being rude to people than they just aren't going to bother giving out info and trying anymore..

Just my 2 cents.
See this forum has a lot of members. Some rookie, some average, some experts and good thing is you can easily differentiate b/w them. The member who just says " I dont believe it " without giving any valid reason is avoided by everyone cuz no one likes to interact with such a member.
But, there are experts who will extract more from the source than whats already there.
And you are always respected for trying the hardest job of finding the source in first place and getting info. Start afresh I say.

Also If I may add, you shouldn't take the burden of proving anything. You have already done the most difficult job. The way investigation proceeds is that sources are collected but the source gatherer is never burdened with proving everything, rather the experts try combining the sources received to reach for the most logical conclusion.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 09:13:48 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.



Source it Dan. Don't need names but do need accountability.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 09:23:39 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

i can't find any source/evidence about that in this thread, only video that saying Jody finished 4th. And no confirmation whether Bahrain was elimination or NEL

true but as I stated before there was no source given for the twins going out 6th.. None what so ever and it was true.

Often sources can't be given because people will lose their jobs among other things.
Thats such a cliche excuse used over and over. Nobody will lose his/her job. That chick from bahrain openly shared info of TAR happening. Then according to you, her job is gone ?
You can always share pic/convo by excluding the source name & face. Atleast we have something to work on rather than just "Ok this happened and simply believe me!"

Clearly you are misinformed.

The "chick" did not work for TAR. She was a guest .

EMPLOYEES of TAR HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS.

Had we known that the photos shared yesterday were from someone approved by TAR to be there, we would not have shared them in public. But too late now as they are everywhere.

You are new here. Politeness counts. Read my SIG thanks.





Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 09:29:45 AM
Back to SPOILER DISCUSSION PLEASE>

This is NOT a thread to discuss how RFF works.

Move along. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 09:42:11 AM
lifeguards were indeed eliminated.... final 4 is indy, jody, skiers, debaters.

i can't find any source/evidence about that in this thread, only video that saying Jody finished 4th. And no confirmation whether Bahrain was elimination or NEL

true but as I stated before there was no source given for the twins going out 6th.. None what so ever and it was true.

Often sources can't be given because people will lose their jobs among other things.
Thats such a cliche excuse used over and over. Nobody will lose his/her job. That chick from bahrain openly shared info of TAR happening. Then according to you, her job is gone ?
You can always share pic/convo by excluding the source name & face. Atleast we have something to work on rather than just "Ok this happened and simply believe me!"

Clearly you are misinformed.

The "chick" did not work for TAR. She was a guest .

EMPLOYEES of TAR HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS.

Had we known that the photos shared yesterday were from someone approved by TAR to be there, we would not have shared them in public. But too late now as they are everywhere.

You are new here. Politeness counts. Read my SIG thanks.

So this reasoning only applies to a source which is related to TAR production in some way or the other right? But there are many other sources that gatherers choose not to reveal giving a reason that it might harm them. No one is asking to portray the whole thing. All im saying is exclude the picture and name. Even time if its an issue.
I am new to this forum. True. But I am being polite all along. Maybe you can enlighten me where I was rude!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 10:12:53 AM
Back to SPOILER DISCUSSION PLEASE.

This is NOT a thread to discuss how RFF works.

Move along. :)

We can all learn and grow from each other. RFF has always been generous with sharing info. Our pages are open for all to read.


 I appreciate the thoughtful discussion and perhaps we can discuss this once TAR has finished  running.


But not now.

THIS thread is solely for discussion of TAR Spoilers. Back on topic please.

This could be a travel day for teams, let's all do our best looking!

:tu all for playing with us!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 20, 2017, 10:19:07 AM
Back to SPOILER DISCUSSION PLEASE.

This is NOT a thread to discuss how RFF works.

Move along. :)

We can all learn and grow from each other. RFF has always been generous with sharing info. Our pages are open for all to read.


 I appreciate the thoughtful discussion and perhaps we can discuss this once TAR has finished  running.


But not now.

THIS thread is solely for discussion of TAR Spoilers. Back on topic please.

This could be a travel day for teams, let's all do our best looking!

:tu all for playing with us!

You have the patience of Job.. But moving along, do we have any good speculation on where they will be going next? Asia? Australia?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 10:44:43 AM
I have been passionately hoping for Nepal. October is the BEST month of the year.

But at this point time may not allow that. Flights from Bahrain aren't great unless they do charter.

Time is running out We have just had Probable LEG 9...cannot totally rule out it being Leg 10.

Teams will be home before long. Two legs max before Finale.

So lets do our best  and concentrate all our efforts on a great Finish!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 10:47:11 AM


You have the patience of Job..

:kuss: You should see me when I have slept more than 8 hours in 5 days lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 20, 2017, 10:49:34 AM
In the Bahrain Jody mat video, Phil seemed to be hurried and his words short with comments like, it's been a long day, it's been quite a long day, alright put your bags down and then the greeter speaks. 

Couple of questions on this interaction.  Have previous years' spoilers revealed people following teams, cheering on a team at the mat and posting pictures and video?  And, would CBS have any concerns returning to the country in future races because of leaks?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 20, 2017, 10:52:41 AM
In the Bahrain Jody mat video, Phil seemed to be hurried and his words short with comments like, it's been a long day, it's been quite a long day, alright put your bags down and then the greeter speaks. 

Couple of questions on this interaction.  Have previous years' spoilers revealed people following teams, cheering on a team at the mat and posting pictures and video?  And, would CBS have any concerns returning to the country in future races because of leaks?

What does the first part of your post have to do with your questions?

How do we know there were people "following" teams? I didn't hear any team being cheered on at the mat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: bluesoul on October 20, 2017, 11:00:58 AM
In the Bahrain Jody mat video, Phil seemed to be hurried and his words short with comments like, it's been a long day, it's been quite a long day, alright put your bags down and then the greeter speaks. 

Couple of questions on this interaction.  Have previous years' spoilers revealed people following teams, cheering on a team at the mat and posting pictures and video?  And, would CBS have any concerns returning to the country in future races because of leaks?

What does the first part of your post have to do with your questions?

How do we know there were people "following" teams? I didn't hear any team being cheered on at the mat.

I think what he is insinuating at is that it may have been a "continue racing" leg as Phil was quick in his approach.
Peach has also mentioned earlier, that bahrain leg could be leg 10. I am unsure though, as to when such "continue legs" are conducted ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on October 20, 2017, 11:03:08 AM
In the Bahrain Jody mat video, Phil seemed to be hurried and his words short with comments like, it's been a long day, it's been quite a long day, alright put your bags down and then the greeter speaks. 

Couple of questions on this interaction.  Have previous years' spoilers revealed people following teams, cheering on a team at the mat and posting pictures and video?  And, would CBS have any concerns returning to the country in future races because of leaks?

What does the first part of your post have to do with your questions?

How do we know there were people "following" teams? I didn't hear any team being cheered on at the mat.

At the beginning of the video - someone shouts out "Go Jody".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 20, 2017, 11:11:26 AM
Looking at Flight Stats, only real options straight from Bahrain could be Thailand- haven't seen it in a few seasons, or somewhere on the Indian subcontinent

A connection in Dubai is much more likely, but they would have to be there earlier to catch some of the mid to late morning flights that head east of India

If they did catch that window, it could be anyone's guess- I saw flights to: Australia, Indonesia, Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Myanmar, China, and Japan, as well as India, Nepal, Maldives, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh

And that was just a quick leafing through :funny:

If they somehow didn't catch that, options would become much more limited- mainly the Indian Subcontinent (including Nepal)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 11:16:44 AM
In the Bahrain Jody mat video, Phil seemed to be hurried and his words short with comments like, it's been a long day, it's been quite a long day, alright put your bags down and then the greeter speaks. 

Couple of questions on this interaction.  Have previous years' spoilers revealed people following teams, cheering on a team at the mat and posting pictures and video?  And, would CBS have any concerns returning to the country in future races because of leaks?

Maybe he had a plane to catch lol.

Sometimes there is a local crowd, we had that in TAR 29.

I think this was a case of  perhaps an invited guest or business associate...and somewhere the importance of discretion was not emphasized. TAR has been much more lax about their vendors/associates signing NDA's so we have seen hotels etc posting as well. They do top notch work so cannot second guess their judgement.

But strange to me, I would think for SECURITY alone they would be concerned. We sure are, RFF tries hard to never says exactly where they will be in advance in public here, naming an exact position is too scary in today's atmosphere. Afterwards is safer.

Anyway we are probably the thorn in their shoe. We have to balance the fun of the chase with the safety of the teams and crew, and the GOOD of the show.

That is also why RFF choses to NOT POST THE FINAL 3 FINISH ORDER as well.  The SHOW is always more important than the spoilers, and while I think planes/trains/locations/tasks are all great fun to know and dissect, I am less happy with boot lists.

Our compromise is to protect the final 3 order as best we can.  If we see the final 3 racing we cannot hide the teams. But if you are hoping to find out who wins here you will be disappointed. We want zillions of viewers watching so our favorite show lives long and prospers.

The SHOW needs some support from ALL of us ...Season 11 was spoiled top to bottom with a full boot list. The actual season was an RFF dud..no suspense, no anticipation, no thrills. We have since then chosen a different path and been much happier as a whole.

Shoot, now it is me who is off topic!! :-[

We'll all sit down in the long wait till airing and figure this out.

Back to Business!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 20, 2017, 12:35:27 PM
I'm pretty sure this is old info from an earlier race, so I'll put this here.

TeamJody ❤️ 🇺🇸 🙏🏻‏
@LibertyLove2008
https://www.instagram.com/p/BacMqcpDHLM/?hl=en&tagged=amazingrace …
Is this the end of the Amazing Race? #TAR30
10:19 AM - 20 Oct 2017


Hard to believe that someone thinks TAR would put the mat out at the final location days in advance so a former production person could take selfies with it. Not sure where that was taken. Brooklyn? Dallas?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 20, 2017, 12:37:40 PM
it says #TBT on it..

TBT stands for throw back thursday.. It was a past season.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 20, 2017, 12:40:02 PM
Dallas. That's the Season 26 finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 20, 2017, 12:53:04 PM
Yesterday the picture of the woman racer on the diving board was proof that the lifeguards had failed a diving challenge and finished last. Today's version of the truth is that the woman was one of the skiers. Maybe this means the skiers finished last?  :knock:

Johneesa‏ @johneesa  30m30 minutes ago
Lady in this picture is not Jessica nor from Debaters/LGs. Its the Skiers. Circled in Red & Green. Green one has pink shirt on. #TAR30 #Jody
9:53 AM - 20 Oct 2017
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 20, 2017, 01:02:53 PM
Yesterday the picture of the woman racer on the diving board was proof that the lifeguards had failed a diving challenge and finished last. Today's version of the truth is that the woman was one of the skiers. Maybe this means the skiers finished last?  :knock:

Johneesa‏ @johneesa  30m30 minutes ago
Lady in this picture is not Jessica nor from Debaters/LGs. Its the Skiers. Circled in Red & Green. Green one has pink shirt on. #TAR30 #Jody
9:53 AM - 20 Oct 2017


I just (regrettably) scrolled through his Twitter feed. It's a hodgepodge of unfounded speculation and a lot of in-fighting.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 20, 2017, 01:03:49 PM
Yesterday the picture of the woman racer on the diving board was proof that the lifeguards had failed a diving challenge and finished last. Today's version of the truth is that the woman was one of the skiers. Maybe this means the skiers finished last?  :knock:

Johneesa‏ @johneesa  30m30 minutes ago
Lady in this picture is not Jessica nor from Debaters/LGs. Its the Skiers. Circled in Red & Green. Green one has pink shirt on. #TAR30 #Jody
9:53 AM - 20 Oct 2017


To me, that looks like a M/F team. AND it's not Jessica on the plank....so??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 01:12:35 PM
Yesterday the picture of the woman racer on the diving board was proof that the lifeguards had failed a diving challenge and finished last. Today's version of the truth is that the woman was one of the skiers. Maybe this means the skiers finished last?  :knock:

Johneesa‏ @johneesa  30m30 minutes ago
Lady in this picture is not Jessica nor from Debaters/LGs. Its the Skiers. Circled in Red & Green. Green one has pink shirt on. #TAR30 #Jody
9:53 AM - 20 Oct 2017

I went to that tweet and in there she replied to one person explaining her reasoning i suppose. And I think she is right on this one. I saw the clip again and the reaction from other person on ship gave it away when answer given was wrong and she had to dive again!. What are the expert's opinion ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 20, 2017, 01:14:42 PM
That's both the skiers in the diving clip.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 20, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
To me it's pretty obvious one skier doing roadblock and another one waiting for her to finish.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 20, 2017, 01:17:29 PM
I agree that it's not the woman lifeguard walking the plank. She's a bit chunky and the woman on the plank is thin. Probably the blonde skier if I had to guess.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 20, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
IT doesn't really matter who it is..

THat wasn't proof the lifeguards were struggling or anyone is struggling because they got dropped once.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 01:19:16 PM
No matter who it is, it gives nothing away about where in the task they are. Could be first, could be last. Unless the person who was there live blabbed, no way to tell IMO.

We see one team...nothing to compare to.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 01:21:38 PM
THIS is interesting though and we haven't commented on it.

What's going on in the cell? Maybe other team member has to find / decipher something??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 20, 2017, 01:21:56 PM
Yesterday the picture of the woman racer on the diving board was proof that the lifeguards had failed a diving challenge and finished last. Today's version of the truth is that the woman was one of the skiers. Maybe this means the skiers finished last?  :knock:

Johneesa‏ @johneesa  30m30 minutes ago
Lady in this picture is not Jessica nor from Debaters/LGs. Its the Skiers. Circled in Red & Green. Green one has pink shirt on. #TAR30 #Jody
9:53 AM - 20 Oct 2017


that person takes things we say, adds a bunch of wild speculation and states it as fact.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
I agree that it's not the woman lifeguard walking the plank. She's a bit chunky and the woman on the plank is thin. Probably the blonde skier if I had to guess.
So what can we conclude from this ? Most people were thinking that lifeguards got eliminated since they were unable to do the diving challenge. Now that is proven wrong. Who was eliminated ?
I still see Skiers and Indys together doing that roadblock, also later a picture of those two teams was taken by a local fan. So what are we sure off as of now ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 20, 2017, 01:22:13 PM
Yesterday the picture of the woman racer on the diving board was proof that the lifeguards had failed a diving challenge and finished last. Today's version of the truth is that the woman was one of the skiers. Maybe this means the skiers finished last?  :knock:

Johneesa‏ @johneesa  30m30 minutes ago
Lady in this picture is not Jessica nor from Debaters/LGs. Its the Skiers. Circled in Red & Green. Green one has pink shirt on. #TAR30 #Jody
9:53 AM - 20 Oct 2017


When was that ever quoted as proof? They were talking about who they thought the mystery woman was and this is an explanation of who this person thinks it is.  :knock:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 20, 2017, 01:23:06 PM
IT doesn't really matter who it is..

THat wasn't proof the lifeguards were struggling or anyone is struggling because they got dropped once.

lifeguards would've needed to make it to Bahrain to struggle...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 01:23:30 PM
THIS is interesting though and we haven't commented on it.

What's going on in the cell? Maybe other team member has to find / decipher something??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 20, 2017, 01:23:50 PM
THIS is interesting though and we haven't commented on it.

What's going on in the cell? Maybe other team member has to find / decipher something??

Its a hawk ... the same hawk the guy at the pitstop was holding ..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 20, 2017, 01:24:08 PM
THIS is interesting though and we haven't commented on it.

What's going on in the cell? Maybe other team member has to find / decipher something??

Uhhhhh peach that is a Birdcage. The falcon seen on the mat in the video is in there. They were talking about loosing fingers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 01:26:38 PM
IT doesn't really matter who it is..

THat wasn't proof the lifeguards were struggling or anyone is struggling because they got dropped once.

lifeguards would've needed to make it to Bahrain to struggle...

Since we believe they were FIRST in Harare....why would you think they didn't?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 01:27:44 PM
THIS is interesting though and we haven't commented on it.

What's going on in the cell? Maybe other team member has to find / decipher something??

Uhhhhh peach that is a Birdcage. The falcon seen on the mat in the video is in there. They were talking about loosing fingers

Oh cool! Thanks!

Another look, well damn my britches. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 20, 2017, 01:32:41 PM
IT doesn't really matter who it is..

THat wasn't proof the lifeguards were struggling or anyone is struggling because they got dropped once.

lifeguards would've needed to make it to Bahrain to struggle...

Since we believe they were FIRST in Harare....why would you think they didn't?

they made it to Dubai... I don't really know exactly what happened but from someone who's posted proof they were there, they said lifeguards didn't make it to Bahrain for some reason... and I think Phil alluded to it when jody got to the pit stop... he said something like "you're the last team here... but lifeguards didn't make it to Bahrain"

I don't know if they lost their passport, missed a flight, or what ...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 01:38:13 PM
Wow...that would be heartbreaking if true. My heart would not want that to happen to any teams EVER again.

Former Racers  who went thru that relive it forever.

 :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 01:38:47 PM
IT doesn't really matter who it is..

THat wasn't proof the lifeguards were struggling or anyone is struggling because they got dropped once.

lifeguards would've needed to make it to Bahrain to struggle...

Since we believe they were FIRST in Harare....why would you think they didn't?

they made it to Dubai... I don't really know exactly what happened but from someone who's posted proof they were there, they said lifeguards didn't make it to Bahrain for some reason... and I think Phil alluded to it when jody got to the pit stop... he said something like "you're the last team here... but lifeguards didn't make it to Bahrain"

I don't know if they lost their passport, missed a flight, or what ...
This roadbloack was tailor made for Lifeguards as it had a diving element to it. If what you are saying in true, then Cody & Jessica got very lucky! But you positive that it wasn't a non elimination leg ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 20, 2017, 01:39:11 PM
^ Dan, he wouldn't say "you're the last team to arrive" if they indeed weren't, but that's just FYI.
Could you confirm with Peach that the info from this source is legit, Dan? Just so everyone doesn't question it as much.

By the way, since it looks like we're in Asia (or Oceania) for the remaining legs now, I'm guessing there should be quite a lot of sightings from the future legs, so we'll likely find out who's not there, and therefore was eliminated in Bahrain, if anyone's interested in that. :tup:

By the way, even if Lifeguards missed a flight or fell way behind for some other reason... NELs are pre-determined, and if this leg was a NEL (which we don't know that it wasn't), then they would still be in it, even if hours behind.
So I wouldn't count on saying they definitely left in 5th place yet.


ETA: to DontKillMe, I don't know why you're saying that this was a diving challenge. To me it looks like the diving part was just added for the fun of it - i.e. performers have to take a dive if they're wrong with the question(s), they're not diving down to do a task underwater or something.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 20, 2017, 01:43:18 PM
IT doesn't really matter who it is..

THat wasn't proof the lifeguards were struggling or anyone is struggling because they got dropped once.

lifeguards would've needed to make it to Bahrain to struggle...

Since we believe they were FIRST in Harare....why would you think they didn't?

they made it to Dubai... I don't really know exactly what happened but from someone who's posted proof they were there, they said lifeguards didn't make it to Bahrain for some reason... and I think Phil alluded to it when jody got to the pit stop... he said something like "you're the last team here... but lifeguards didn't make it to Bahrain"

I don't know if they lost their passport, missed a flight, or what ...
This roadbloack was tailor made for Lifeguards as it had a diving element to it. If what you are saying in true, then Cody & Jessica got very lucky! But you positive that it wasn't a non elimination leg ?

It appears that the challenge has more to do with answering questions correctly than diving. I don't understand how a challenge with a diving element equates to Cody and Jessica getting lucky (and not the others who are still in the race as well).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 01:45:14 PM
^ Dan, he wouldn't say "you're the last team to arrive" if they indeed weren't, but that's just FYI.
Could you confirm with Peach that the info from this source is legit, Dan? Just so everyone doesn't question it as much.

By the way, since it looks like we're in Asia (or Oceania) for the remaining legs now, I'm guessing there should be quite a lot of sightings from the future legs, so we'll likely find out who's not there, and therefore was eliminated in Bahrain, if anyone's interested in that. :tup:

By the way, even if Lifeguards missed a flight or fell way behind for some other reason... NELs are pre-determined, and if this leg was a NEL (which we don't know that it wasn't), then they would still be in it, even if hours behind.
So I wouldn't count on saying they definitely left in 5th place yet.


ETA: to DontKillMe, I don't know why you're saying that this was a diving challenge. To me it looks like the diving part was just added for the fun of it - i.e. performers have to take a dive if they're wrong with the question(s), they're not diving down to do a task underwater or something.
Agreed! A confirmation with the admin would do it for all skeptics.
I think you are correct. Maybe it was more of a question/answer challenge than a diving challenge.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 20, 2017, 01:47:11 PM
^ Dan, he wouldn't say "you're the last team to arrive" if they indeed weren't, but that's just FYI.
Could you confirm with Peach that the info from this source is legit, Dan? Just so everyone doesn't question it as much.

By the way, since it looks like we're in Asia (or Oceania) for the remaining legs now, I'm guessing there should be quite a lot of sightings from the future legs, so we'll likely find out who's not there, and therefore was eliminated in Bahrain, if anyone's interested in that. :tup:

By the way, even if Lifeguards missed a flight or fell way behind for some other reason... NELs are pre-determined, and if this leg was a NEL (which we don't know that it wasn't), then they would still be in it, even if hours behind.
So I wouldn't count on saying they definitely left in 5th place yet.


ETA: to DontKillMe, I don't know why you're saying that this was a diving challenge. To me it looks like the diving part was just added for the fun of it - i.e. performers have to take a dive if they're wrong with the question(s), they're not diving down to do a task underwater or something.

I could totally see him doing a fakeout thing.. Teasing them like they were going out but they weren't..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 20, 2017, 01:48:16 PM
He did that one time to Tim & Marie. "You are the last team to arrive - except for one"
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 20, 2017, 01:50:25 PM
need help with something... I was pretty sure I heard Phil say at the start they would go to 5 continents, but I can't find the video of it... its important because if true it means they likely went to Australia after Bahrain.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 20, 2017, 01:54:39 PM
need help with something... I was pretty sure I heard Phil say at the start they would go to 5 continents, but I can't find the video of it... its important because if true it means they likely went to Australia after Bahrain.

Haven't found Phil saying that yet....but you can find all the Oct. 1st videos here, Dan:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33364.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
need help with something... I was pretty sure I heard Phil say at the start they would go to 5 continents, but I can't find the video of it... its important because if true it means they likely went to Australia after Bahrain.
Isn't it too late for 5 continents ? With supposedly 3 legs left, crossing two continents seems unviable to me.
I think they will either cover Europe, Africa, Asia, North America OR Europe, Africa, Oceania, North America.
Thoughts ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 02:01:05 PM
Spec:
The Man who took the pics and the video is apparently affiliated with the Bahrain National Stadium. Perhaps there was a task there as well?  Cricket? Football? ???

I am a cricket nerd and Peach, cricket is NOT played in Bahrain. Soccer, however, could be a real possibility!

What's that you say? ???

http://www.boc.bh/en/about-sports/cricket
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 02:05:32 PM
Spec:
The Man who took the pics and the video is apparently affiliated with the Bahrain National Stadium. Perhaps there was a task there as well?  Cricket? Football? ???

I am a cricket nerd and Peach, cricket is NOT played in Bahrain. Soccer, however, could be a real possibility!

What's that you say? ???

http://www.boc.bh/en/about-sports/cricket

I too follow cricket closely Georgia Peach! Bahrain is an affiliated member of ICC (international cricket council) in theory only! It doesn't feature in the main 10-12 playing nations.
USA also has a national cricket team btw!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 20, 2017, 02:07:02 PM

need help with something... I was pretty sure I heard Phil say at the start they would go to 5 continents, but I can't find the video of it... its important because if true it means they likely went to Australia after Bahrain.

I was there. Prob 20 feet away from Phil.

He was un-miked, was very hoarse, and with the crowd noise I could not hear that at all.

In fact I was disappointed to not hear the traditional __countries, __ continents, __miles .

There is an hour long professional start video out there, maybe that will have it?? I have tapes of him doing the intro x5, but I do not hear that said. 
But am sure it was said...just not that I can hear.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 20, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
need help with something... I was pretty sure I heard Phil say at the start they would go to 5 continents, but I can't find the video of it... its important because if true it means they likely went to Australia after Bahrain.
Isn't it too late for 5 continents ? With supposedly 3 legs left, crossing two continents seems unviable to me.
I think they will either cover Europe, Africa, Asia, North America OR Europe, Africa, Oceania, North America.
Thoughts ?

they've already done 4, Ny + finale. Europe, Africa, Bahrain = Asia, ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 02:15:32 PM
need help with something... I was pretty sure I heard Phil say at the start they would go to 5 continents, but I can't find the video of it... its important because if true it means they likely went to Australia after Bahrain.
Isn't it too late for 5 continents ? With supposedly 3 legs left, crossing two continents seems unviable to me.
I think they will either cover Europe, Africa, Asia, North America OR Europe, Africa, Oceania, North America.
Thoughts ?

they've already done 4, Ny + finale. Europe, Africa, Bahrain = Asia, ?
Yes Bahrain's part of Asia, but have they done 1 nation asia leg ever ? I have to check on it. Either Asia has been skipped all together or atleast 2 nations have been visited as per my knowledge. Someone correct me if i'm wrong!

Update : I crosschecked for past 10 TAR seasons and I couldn't find a scenario where only 1 asian nation was visited. If an asian continent was touched, atleast 2 nations were visited.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 20, 2017, 02:16:14 PM
Bahrain IS considered Asia. And Im thinking there are  at least 2 legs before finale, so you could be right about Australia.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 20, 2017, 02:30:45 PM
Bahrain IS considered Asia. And Im thinking there is still at least 2 legs before finale, so you could be right about Australia.

looking at flights Bangkok makes sense if they have 2 more legs before finale... thought maybe Tokyo but they have a typhoon coming so doubt it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 02:42:32 PM
Bahrain IS considered Asia. And Im thinking there is still at least 2 legs before finale, so you could be right about Australia.

looking at flights Bangkok makes sense if they have 2 more legs before finale... thought maybe Tokyo but they have a typhoon coming so doubt it
Thailand would be wonderful. What other asian nations are a possibility (bleak though!) by looking at the flight schedule according to you ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 20, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Bahrain IS considered Asia. And Im thinking there is still at least 2 legs before finale, so you could be right about Australia.

looking at flights Bangkok makes sense if they have 2 more legs before finale... thought maybe Tokyo but they have a typhoon coming so doubt it
Thailand would be wonderful. What other asian nations are a possibility (bleak though!) by looking at the flight schedule according to you ?
Also are we positive that Bahrain was only for one leg ? I know its an island nation, but still !
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 20, 2017, 04:24:46 PM
If they connected in Dubai, and arrived before 9am, they could’ve gone literally anywhere

Indian Subcontinent seems more likely if they didn’t
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 20, 2017, 05:57:14 PM

Spec:
The Man who took the pics and the video is apparently affiliated with the Bahrain National Stadium. Perhaps there was a task there as well?  Cricket? Football? ???

I am a cricket nerd and Peach, cricket is NOT played in Bahrain. Soccer, however, could be a real possibility!

What's that you say? ???

http://www.boc.bh/en/about-sports/cricket

I too follow cricket closely Georgia Peach! Bahrain is an affiliated member of ICC (international cricket council) in theory only! It doesn't feature in the main 10-12 playing nations.
USA also has a national cricket team btw!

Yes. Bahrain is an 'affiliated member' of the ICC, which means it doesn't play Test match cricket. (Like Australia, England, etc) Instead, it plays in regional competitors, in other nations around them, such as Qatar, United Arab Emirates (where Pakistan play their home matches), Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Oman. However, I am unsure if they have 'city cricket', as they do here in Australia. DontKillMe, what country are you from? I am also unsure as too which how many children have an interest in the great game. I hope (if it is cricket), it is a too harder a task, as I have played it for many years and I haven't scored over 20 runs in one go  :escape
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 20, 2017, 06:16:43 PM
THIS is interesting though and we haven't commented on it.

What's going on in the cell? Maybe other team member has to find / decipher something??

Uhhhhh peach that is a Birdcage. The falcon seen on the mat in the video is in there. They were talking about loosing fingers

Thank you so much!  I was asking about that photo yesterday, only I called it "the bars" photo.  Glad to know that.

The drive from the Bahrain Airport to the tree of life is about 48- 54 minutes (of course, not including any tasks along the way.)  Interestingly enough there are 3 routes they could take.  The most eastern road takes them over water, the others are all inland, so I'd guess they drove along the road that goes over Nabih Salah Island.  The road, or at least part of it is called Shakh Jaber A. Al Subah Highway.  https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Bahrain+Airport,+Muharraq,+Bahrain/Tree+of+Life,+Southern+Governorate,+Bahrain/@26.0677847,50.6224724,63114m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x3e49a6343fdd7993:0xf4c26bbbcf7a1a96!2m2!1d50.6259871!2d26.2697119!1m5!1m1!1s0x3e49ad2161891555:0x6a3b167814b8c131!2m2!1d50.5830047!2d25.9941341!3e0  It nears water in at least 3 places.

It looks like there are about 18 flights a day from Dubai to Bahrain, and visa versa.  Flights are about one hour 15 minutes long.  Back in Dubai of course, there are so many flights out to everywhere that even if you only look at the east bound flights, they could go almost anywhere.

I don't think we have a confirmed arrival flight in Dubai, or at least not a live sighting.  ??  But with the race in Bahrain photos yesterday, I doubt they started the leg in Dubai, then caught the 95 minute flight to Bahrain to continue the leg, but it's slightly possible I guess.

I'm just trying to think of an answer for the "team didn't make it to" in Bahrain, given the number of flights out.  The lost passport idea idea seems possible, but if they were only connecting flights and no tasks?  That could mean losing it somewhere in the airport in Dubai?   I suppose something could have happened in Africa as well, but  with that wording, if they are correct, it doesn't sound like an injury.

So, any ideas where that water / dive / questions task was?  Of course the airport is practically surrounded by water, so they could have done it there and driven any of the 3 routes to the Tree of Life, or gone to the western side, and then back for the drive to ToL.

ETA the Bahrain Yacht Club is at Sitra (that eastern road) and they have all kinds of activities there, kayaking, diving, so it might be a place TAR could arrange a "walk the plank."  Just looking for possible locations and routes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 20, 2017, 06:33:20 PM

Of course the airport is practically surrounded by water, so they could have done it there and driven any of the 3 routes to the Tree of Life, or gone to the western side, and then back for the drive to ToL.

Yes, the guy who posted the video of the diving said "Bahrain Bay," which is 6.8 kms** (corrected from miles) from the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 20, 2017, 06:40:23 PM

Of course the airport is practically surrounded by water, so they could have done it there and driven any of the 3 routes to the Tree of Life, or gone to the western side, and then back for the drive to ToL.

Yes, the guy who posted the video of the diving said "Bahrain Bay," which is 6.8 miles from the airport.

Thanks, that's on the east, tiny short drive to the west side, and
 http://www.bahrain.com/en/vp/things-to-do/top-ten-sights/Pages/Bahrain-National-MUseum.aspx#.WeqJEVtSyiQ  which might/could be a place the questions came from, TAR does like it's old museums.

Pure speculation of course, places nearby, it's such a small Island, they could do several things.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 20, 2017, 08:39:55 PM
Well.. we can't rule out the possibility of having a full leg in Bahrain,  just because of its small area

Remember we do have extremely short legs (TAR13 leg 7) or legs covered very short travel distance (TAR22 leg 2, TAR27 leg 10)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on October 20, 2017, 09:18:12 PM
Nobody implied that Bahrain was a half-leg, which is in any case absurd given the fact that it dwarves Liechtenstein as well as Monaco.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 20, 2017, 10:38:42 PM
Yeah, there is lots to do in Bahrain, I am trying to figure out HOW a team "didn't make it to Bahrain" though.  Lost passport seems likely, but where?  Africa or Dubai, and how would you lose it in Dubai if you were just switching planes?

IF that report is true that is, that the unnamed source heard Phil tell "Jody" they were safe, and that the other team didn't make it to that country.

I think the source is production and that's why they aren't naming it, so I tend to believe them.  Their conclusions haven't been completely accurate, but the actual spoilers have been.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 20, 2017, 10:47:03 PM
Yeah, there is lots to do in Bahrain, I am trying to figure out HOW a team "didn't make it to Bahrain" though.  Lost passport seems likely, but where?  Africa or Dubai, and how would you lose it in Dubai if you were just switching planes?

IF that report is true that is, that the unnamed source heard Phil tell "Jody" they were safe, and that the other team didn't make it to that country.

I think the source is production and that's why they aren't naming it, so I tend to believe them.  Their conclusions haven't been completely accurate, but the actual spoilers have been.

lost passport or one of the members of the team got extremely sick maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 20, 2017, 10:48:32 PM
I had a friend lose their passport on the plane on the second of three flights- Miami to Lima if I remember correctly (wasnt with them, but remember the retelling of the tale)

Stuff like that CAN happen- haven’t seen the losing of a passport in transit between countries, but isn’t impossible based on my (secondhand) experience

But, I would like a little more before I outright believe it

I’d lend myself to believe it more easily if the info that had been extrapolated from sightings throughout the race  had been more right than wrong, but currently it’s not reliable enough on its own for me
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 20, 2017, 10:50:08 PM
Well, we'll find out all when it actually goes to air.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 20, 2017, 11:37:26 PM
Bahrain IS considered Asia. And Im thinking there is still at least 2 legs before finale, so you could be right about Australia.

looking at flights Bangkok makes sense if they have 2 more legs before finale... thought maybe Tokyo but they have a typhoon coming so doubt it
Thailand would be wonderful. What other asian nations are a possibility (bleak though!) by looking at the flight schedule according to you ?
I think Thailand may not be visited as the Funeral of the king of Thailand is held in the upcoming 5 days
Although teams can go there,however,there are a lot of advices that tourists should pay attention to such as trying to follow formal dress code

As there are 2 more legs, some big cities like Hong Kong,Singapore can be paid attention to as these 2 are the busiest transit city
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 21, 2017, 03:18:34 AM
I don’t know why but I just feel like Singapore will be visited.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 21, 2017, 03:37:19 AM
I don’t know why but I just feel like Singapore will be visited.

Singapore was last visited five seasons ago and could not be a fourpeat. Unlikely choice.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: naejae91 on October 21, 2017, 06:15:02 AM
I don’t know why but I just feel like Singapore will be visited.

Singapore was last visited five seasons ago and could not be a fourpeat. Unlikely choice.
But they can use Singapore as airport connection to other Asian countries and Australia/New Zealand but the nearer Dubai airport could provide most of the non-stop flight to the same destination (I read somewhere Emirates and Qatar Airways now provide non-stop flights to Auckland, NZ but there's another story) so. Other than that I agree with you that a Singapore visit would be too soon and does not fit with the underused/unvisited route theme this season.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 21, 2017, 10:33:31 AM
Again! Do not take this as 100% that Amazing Race is in Singapore/Malaysia but I just saw 2 insta pics from the same user named Jennifer Wong. I am posting their links for the experts to verify whether its true or not! Team Work. Lets do this.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bag0frBACW7/?taken-by=jennifer_jwjf
https://www.instagram.com/p/BafqC2AAKnS/?taken-by=jennifer_jwjf
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
Again! Do not take this as 100% that Amazing Race is in Singapore/Malaysia but I just saw 2 insta pics from the same user named Jennifer Wong. I am posting their links for the experts to verify whether its true or not! Team Work. Lets do this.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bag0frBACW7/?taken-by=jennifer_jwjf
https://www.instagram.com/p/BafqC2AAKnS/?taken-by=jennifer_jwjf


Pretty sure this is a local event.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 21, 2017, 10:58:47 AM
Before this gains any traction, this is NOT a sighting:

Hilal Ahmad @hilalahsoun
Coming ,,, Amazing Race
7:23 AM - 21 Oct 2017
[time stamp is ET. Approx 3 hours ago. This person is in Jammu & Kashmir.]

He has explained twice that he meant "autumn is coming."


To me, the picture he posted looks more like New England or the Appalachians than Jammu or Kashmir. But I've never been to Jammu or Kashmir.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 11:03:30 AM
Wouldnt it make sense to have atleast one leg in tokyo or china or asia before the final?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 11:08:17 AM
Before this gains any traction, this is NOT a sighting:

Hilal Ahmad @hilalahsoun
Coming ,,, Amazing Race
7:23 AM - 21 Oct 2017
[time stamp is ET. Approx 3 hours ago. This person is in Jammu & Kashmir.]

He has explained twice that he meant "autumn is coming."


To me, the picture he posted looks more like New England or the Appalachians than Jammu or Kashmir. But I've never been to Jammu or Kashmir.

He is in Kashmir . Spoke to him, he is sorry for any confusion.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
Question: there are a lot of starting line vids out there.

Could y'all keep an eye out for any that might include Phil's normal ___continents, ___cities, ___ days?? My clips do not have it, and I do not remember hearing it, but could easily have missed it. Would be helpful to have. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 21, 2017, 11:48:47 AM
Perhaps the logistics promo was filmed pre-flight/during/post-landing of this trip high over New York.

philiminator
High above #newyork heading to #washingtonsquarepark for the start on #TAR30 ... see you soon!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZtdycvASkb/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 21, 2017, 12:10:18 PM
Question: there are a lot of starting line vids out there.

Could y'all keep an eye out for any that might include Phil's normal ___continents, ___cities, ___ days?? My clips do not have it, and I do not remember hearing it, but could easily have missed it. Would be helpful to have. :tup:

Does he ever do that at the starting line? I only really remember him doing it to the winners, but it would be super helpful to have!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 21, 2017, 12:41:35 PM
Question: there are a lot of starting line vids out there.

Could y'all keep an eye out for any that might include Phil's normal ___continents, ___cities, ___ days?? My clips do not have it, and I do not remember hearing it, but could easily have missed it. Would be helpful to have. :tup:

Isn't that something that he says at the end of the race right before saying who the winner is?  I just went back and watched the beginning of 5 seasons and he didn't say that in any of them.  He says "The world is waiting for you...good luck...travel safe...go"

This doesn't mean he didn't mention it, just that it's not something that's typically aired at the start of the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 12:43:50 PM
Could have sworn he's at least said "...that will take you across __ continents and more than __ miles" at a starting line before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 21, 2017, 01:07:07 PM
I think it’s kind of hit or miss- at least for what makes it to air
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 21, 2017, 01:33:24 PM
He's said it in the recent seasons:

TAR 29: You are about to pair up with a complete stranger for a 9-country 17-city 36,000-mile race around the world...
TAR 28: In just 21 days, you'll visit 18 cities and 10 countries and travel more than 27,000 miles.
TAR 27: [None aired]
TAR 26: [Opening narration, not to racers] Is it possible to find new love on a 35,000-mile race around the world?
TAR 25: [None aired]
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
Ah, so he hasn't done it for the public starting lines. 25 and 27 were open. And 28 was live but didn't have a proper starting line, it was a video message at home. Clever, Phil :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
Question: there are a lot of starting line vids out there.

Could y'all keep an eye out for any that might include Phil's normal ___continents, ___cities, ___ days?? My clips do not have it, and I do not remember hearing it, but could easily have missed it. Would be helpful to have. :tup:

Does he ever do that at the starting line? I only really remember him doing it to the winners, but it would be super helpful to have!

Yes he does almost always.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 21, 2017, 02:59:36 PM
It seems that not at public starts though.
Kinda makes sense, as it would make our spoiling job much easier. So makes sense not to say it this season as well.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 21, 2017, 05:54:36 PM
Geez, if TAR went to Pakistan, that equals ALOTTA trouble!  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 21, 2017, 06:17:11 PM
Geez, if TAR went to Pakistan, that equals ALOTTA trouble!  :funny:

Pakistan is more unlikely is too dangerous there to visit.US and Australia already have travel advisories in the country that would not to travel the country.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 07:43:38 PM
Appears they are Chiang Mai, northern Thailand. Skiers sighting.

Guess that's alright, an underused part of the country :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 07:44:24 PM
Appears they are Chiang Mai, northern Thailand. Skiers sighting.

Guess that's alright, an underused part of the country :)

it is currently 7:43 am there.. Could they just be starting the leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 21, 2017, 07:46:39 PM
I'm trying to watch the periscope.  A huge Thailand  map was posted on Twitter 21 hours ago.  More and more I think their source is Production.

https://twitter.com/ShenShen333/status/921576891357782019

I'm not great with Periscope, will someone be able to get some stills from it?

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 21, 2017, 07:48:01 PM
In live sighting, Captain was amazing enough to post the periscope streams. If anyone has good eyes, in the first broadcast, at the end, he encounter the skiers and the clue is visible. Can anyone read it?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2017, 07:53:27 PM
The additional info seems to suggest Hong Kong is the final destination. Unless they're going to Hong Kong getting a clue there at one Route Marker and then flying off somewhere else.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 07:56:57 PM
Appears they are Chiang Mai, northern Thailand. Skiers sighting.

Guess that's alright, an underused part of the country :)

it is currently 7:43 am there.. Could they just be starting the leg?

According to the clue that is not the destination and they're headed to Hong Kong.

Unless we've already missed a leg that took place there. Thailand I understand has a bit of a history of being a difficult country to get sightings out of, after most recently Canada 5 went to Bangkok and we had no idea they were ever in that country until the episode preview came up.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 21, 2017, 07:57:23 PM
If they are flying to Hong Kong from Thailand is it possible that this is already leg 11 (if we assume Bahrain was pitstop for leg 9)?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 21, 2017, 07:58:45 PM
Since it's morning and they are just heading to the travel agent, do we think they did a leg in Thailand yesterday?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 07:59:51 PM
Since it's morning and they are just heading to the travel agent, do we think they did a leg in Thailand yesterday?

Quite possibly. By the timeframe since Bahrain, maybe a Keep on Racing (no Pit Stop break)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 08:00:09 PM
I think that is most likely.. There has to still be 4 teams left if it's leg 11 so either Thaliand or Bahrain would have to be a NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 21, 2017, 08:01:39 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Maybe the Chang Mai Leg was Saturday 10/21?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 21, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
Hong Kong!

IT IS STILL CHINA!  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 21, 2017, 08:11:50 PM
Maybe the Chang Mai Leg was Saturday 10/21?

Most likely yes. Almost all flights from BAH to CNX require overnighting somewhere, so it's doubtful they managed to get there in time to film on Oct 20.

also it's rather interesting that production is suggesting there's "limited availability" on flights from Chiang Mai to Hong Kong when 30 seconds of searching shows at least three better flights...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2017, 08:16:19 PM
^Definitely interesting. Most likely logistics. Either they want a night Leg in Hong Kong or they need them there around that time to equalize them before moving on to another location not in HK perhaps?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 08:18:00 PM
An African TAR fan who's a pretty avid follower of this board just tweeted something interesting. If the letters of the connections and destinations are arranged correctly, he may actually be onto something. Check it out.

https://twitter.com/Phil_okk/status/921905956912549888
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
An African TAR fan who's a pretty avid follower of this board just tweeted something interesting. If the letters of the connections and destinations are arranged correctly, he may actually be onto something. Check it out.

https://twitter.com/Phil_okk/status/921905956912549888

The finale is not in Atlanta...

Expecting the predictable, there's a few California cities that start with A, i.e. Anaheim
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 21, 2017, 08:23:10 PM
I still think it will an LA finale leg! :res:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 21, 2017, 08:23:29 PM
Also Germany didn't host anything this season
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 21, 2017, 08:24:17 PM
Should be a west coast city.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 21, 2017, 08:33:55 PM
How could do Chiang Mai is a TBC leg before getting to Hong Kong for today? It could still be a F5 and could be a secind NEL in a row?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 21, 2017, 08:35:10 PM
^Definitely interesting. Most likely logistics. Either they want a night Leg in Hong Kong or they need them there around that time to equalize them before moving on to another location not in HK perhaps?

But they wouldn't need to equalize them with forced flights though; if they're traveling somewhere else then all they have to do is force teams to sign up for whatever bus/train/plane/who knows they're taking.

Incidentally I'm on my phone so I can't cap the periscope but the temple complex the skiers are exiting is Wat Ho Tham inside the Wat Chedi Luang temple complex.  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
How could do Chiang Mai is a TBC leg before getting to Hong Kong for today? It could still be a F5 and could be a secind NEL in a row?

nope highly doubt that.. IF this is leg 11 they are down to four.. Either Chiang Mai was TBC/NEL or Bahrain was but not both.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 08:38:23 PM
How could do Chiang Mai is a TBC leg before getting to Hong Kong for today? It could still be a F5 and could be a secind NEL in a row?

I know all is rumors , but its rumored that the liefguards were eliminated in Bahrain, so the 4 remaining teams might have did a leg in Chiang Mai and it could have been a NEL, with hong kong as the final leg determining the final 3 .
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 21, 2017, 08:39:18 PM
How are we sure Chang Mai and Hong Kong aren't one leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2017, 08:42:24 PM

But they wouldn't need to equalize them with forced flights though; if they're traveling somewhere else then all they have to do is force teams to sign up for whatever bus/train/plane/who knows they're taking.

True.
On that same note, would they really have teams fly specifically to Hong Kong just to get them somewhere else instead of just connecting through straight to the final destination? In today's TAR? It's pretty doubtful I would say.

How are we sure Chang Mai and Hong Kong aren't one leg?
It could be. Very TAR Canada 5 of them. But I doubt they'd only do half a Leg in either country. It would have to be a TBC/KOR Leg at the very least.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 21, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
An African TAR fan who's a pretty avid follower of this board just tweeted something interesting. If the letters of the connections and destinations are arranged correctly, he may actually be onto something. Check it out.

https://twitter.com/Phil_okk/status/921905956912549888

I've been seeing this guy's tweets about TAR for years. He's an obsessed fan like most of us. However, most of what he tweets is just stuff he's seen elsewhere. In addition to the flaws that have already been pointed out, I have trouble believing in him as a reliable source.

We have probably just made his day though.  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 21, 2017, 08:46:44 PM
How are we sure Chang Mai and Hong Kong aren't one leg?

Unlikely, but could be a possibility!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 08:55:17 PM
How are we sure Chang Mai and Hong Kong aren't one leg?

Unlikely, but could be a possibility!

I am leaning toward highly unlikely. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodyfan on October 21, 2017, 08:58:23 PM
Why does the clue give them specific instructions for flights? Like the connecting flight. From the show they make it seem like they have to find their own flight.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2017, 09:00:51 PM
Why does the clue give them specific instructions for flights? Like the connecting flight. From the show they make it seem like they have to find their own flight.
Sometimes the show will make them take specific flights, for various reasons. Other times teams have to find their own.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 09:02:06 PM
Why does the clue give them specific instructions for flights? Like the connecting flight. From the show they make it seem like they have to find their own flight.

I'd guess because in the very early seasons, back when teams had free reign to book their own flights, we had incidents where a team would botch it and end up almost a day behind, or adversely sometimes in their favor, almost a day ahead of everyone else. Also to avoid any risk of them accidentally transferring through somewhere they shouldn't for safety reasons.

They don't really want things like that anymore, better to keep them all moderately bunched together.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 21, 2017, 09:03:55 PM
Why does the clue give them specific instructions for flights? Like the connecting flight. From the show they make it seem like they have to find their own flight.
To make them to be on the same plane before starting the leg I guess. Also to avoid them finding some maraculous flight which puts one team in lead ahead of others for many hours. I recall there was a huge lead of 7 hours by finding a great flight at the airport in tar 5 in Egypt!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 21, 2017, 09:04:05 PM
That periscope guy John Mho is heading to the airport now, we might get lucky.

https://twitter.com/JohnMho/status/921917751567925248
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 09:04:24 PM
An African TAR fan who's a pretty avid follower of this board just tweeted something interesting. If the letters of the connections and destinations are arranged correctly, he may actually be onto something. Check it out.

https://twitter.com/Phil_okk/status/921905956912549888

:groan:

You BELIEVE this?? :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 09:07:38 PM
Guess not really :P But it'd be kinda funny now if the final city ends up starting with A.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 21, 2017, 09:07:51 PM
I'll throw this in here because it's not a sighting.....yet.

Johnny‏ @patschampions  36m36 minutes ago
@JohnMho Hi! saw your amazing race scope, did you by any chance see this couple at all during your trip near the 2 girls? #tar30 #jody
 
<insert a couple of pictures of Team Jody here

John Ho (何John)‏Verified account
@JohnMho
Replying to @patschampions
No I haven't but heading to airport now let's see :)
6:54 PM - 21 Oct 2017


John Ho is the guy who shot the Periscope videos. If he's going to the airport in Chiang Mai now, he'll likely see the other teams, so it should be worth keeping an eye on his Twitter account.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 21, 2017, 09:12:14 PM

Someone tweeted him the flight info, and photos of the other racers too.


Guess not really :P But it'd be kinda funny now if the final city ends up starting with A.

I'd be happy!  Anchorage!  I want Alaska again.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 09:13:10 PM
Someone tweeted him the flight info, and photos of the other racers too.

should probably tweet him the lifeguards picture too just incase that info of them being eliminated wasn't accurate..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 21, 2017, 09:14:35 PM
Someone tweeted him the flight info, and photos of the other racers too.

should probably tweet him the lifeguards picture too just incase that info of them being eliminated wasn't accurate..

Well, he has everything, including the gate number, so here's hoping he films any two people together with backpacks.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 09:15:21 PM
Well we've got one that's safe through Bahrain, the skiers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 09:33:56 PM
Why does the clue give them specific instructions for flights? Like the connecting flight. From the show they make it seem like they have to find their own flight.

I'd guess because in the very early seasons, back when teams had free reign to book their own flights, we had incidents where a team would botch it and end up almost a day behind, or adversely sometimes in their favor, almost a day ahead of everyone else. Also to avoid any risk of them accidentally transferring through somewhere they shouldn't for safety reasons.

They don't really want things like that anymore, better to keep them all moderately bunched together.

No. All budget and security,
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 09:35:35 PM
Guys, let's keep in mind the Racer's security and not pinpoint future locations okay? The damage re flight is done, but be very careful from here on out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2017, 09:40:06 PM
Well considering the crew allowed the guy to Periscope the whole thing, maybe TARUS is becoming a little more loose when it comes to keeping locations and stuff secret. The more social media chatter, even if live sightings, the  better.  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 21, 2017, 10:08:56 PM
Didn't see the other post...nvm.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 21, 2017, 10:28:20 PM
Was looking at the Timeline Thread and I noticed something, normally TAR has 3 double-country legs, 2 double-country legs for other seasons. This season, there's only 1 which is France X2.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 21, 2017, 10:30:06 PM
So Hong Kong is the last leg?

I see the picture and they will land in Hong Kong around 6-7pm in Hong Kong time
And from the periscope,there should be 4 teams according to him

If Hong Kong is the last destination, I think they may need to have a late-night leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 10:31:36 PM
Was looking at the Timeline Thread and I noticed something, normally TAR has 3 double-country legs, 2 double-country legs for other seasons. This season, there's only 1 which is France X2.

There's a large time gap around Zimbabwe, which could very well have been a rural second leg there. A leg is missing, no doubt.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 21, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
How long until the flight takes off?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 21, 2017, 10:38:50 PM
Was looking at the Timeline Thread and I noticed something, normally TAR has 3 double-country legs, 2 double-country legs for other seasons. This season, there's only 1 which is France X2.

Certainly I agree on this. We confirmed that France is having a true double leg (Saint-Tropez and Arles). The missing leg in Zimbabwe remains speculated just like the speculated missing leg gap between Hanoi and Maun on TAR 22.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 21, 2017, 10:40:38 PM
Was looking at the Timeline Thread and I noticed something, normally TAR has 3 double-country legs, 2 double-country legs for other seasons. This season, there's only 1 which is France X2.

There's a large time gap around Zimbabwe, which could very well have been a rural second leg there. A leg is missing, no doubt.

I was thinking about the same thing. I really think Zimbabwe has another leg, which we may have not seen or gotten info. Putting into perspective the production's eyes. I would not spend money on multiple connections and spend just 1 leg there. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 21, 2017, 10:45:36 PM
OK SO far have sightings of skiers and Jody at airport. About to post a pic on twitter or Cody waiting st the gate.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 21, 2017, 10:45:40 PM
So Hong Kong is the last leg?

I see the picture and they will land in Hong Kong around 6-7pm in Hong Kong time
And from the periscope,there should be 4 teams according to him

If Hong Kong is the last destination, I think they may need to have a late-night leg

so he confirmed he saw 4 teams?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 21, 2017, 10:47:18 PM
So Hong Kong is the last leg?

I see the picture and they will land in Hong Kong around 6-7pm in Hong Kong time
And from the periscope,there should be 4 teams according to him

If Hong Kong is the last destination, I think they may need to have a late-night leg

so he confirmed he saw 4 teams?
From I have seen in John's periscope,he says there are 4 teams
And he sees a pink team ask for a direction whether they should go to international depature/domestic departure
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 21, 2017, 10:53:03 PM
The pink team is the skiers. Its on his periscope.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 10:56:06 PM
Mr ho the periscope guy just saw he skiers again live at the airport, I ask him when he saw them first back in the city and he said 3 hours ago. Very strange no other teams were there with 3 hours gap? Either skiers are far ahead or they are lost and behind  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 10:57:12 PM
Mr ho the periscope guy just saw he skiers again live at the airport, I ask him when he saw them first back in the city and he said 3 hours ago. Very strange no other teams were there with 3 hours gap? Either skiers are far ahead or they are lost and behind  :spy:

no cody is there. I just saw a picture of him.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 21, 2017, 10:58:18 PM
guess the question now is who else is still in it!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 10:58:56 PM
guess the question now is who else is still in it!

well if the rumor about the lifeguards is true it is probably racers and debaters.

Even if this is leg 11 leg 10 was probably NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 10:59:16 PM
As I post that Jody has been spotted, not sure how long ago or if live but here is pic https://twitter.com/flylikethesun/status/921946636124815360
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2017, 11:04:37 PM
As I post that Jody has been spotted, not sure how long ago or if live but here is pic https://twitter.com/flylikethesun/status/921946636124815360

I'm pretty sure the guy sitting on the left is producer Matt Schmidt. Have tweeted at him many a time in the past :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 11:05:49 PM
Is it a bad sign if a team sit next to a producer??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 21, 2017, 11:06:26 PM
As I post that Jody has been spotted, not sure how long ago or if live but here is pic https://twitter.com/flylikethesun/status/921946636124815360

They were seen minutes ago. Their flight leaves in an hour
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 21, 2017, 11:08:10 PM
Mr ho the periscope guy just saw he skiers again live at the airport, I ask him when he saw them first back in the city and he said 3 hours ago. Very strange no other teams were there with 3 hours gap? Either skiers are far ahead or they are lost and behind  :spy:
When he saw them in the city, they were asking for a travel agency, so I think they were starting the leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2017, 11:08:50 PM
Many of us don't use Periscope. Could someone narrate it? Upload to YT?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 21, 2017, 11:09:25 PM
Interesting how we did not get any sighting of them in Chiang Mai, only them leaving the Thailand.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 11:12:03 PM
Many of us don't use Periscope. Could someone narrate it? Upload to YT?
He only got a clip of the skiers in front of burger king then running around a few times. He didn't follow them cause he was waiting for his wife before they went to their flight. But he was kind enough to walk to where the teams would be waiting and he didn't find any of them here so he walked to where his flight was answering questions.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 21, 2017, 11:13:32 PM
Many of us don't use Periscope. Could someone narrate it? Upload to YT?

So basically the periscope starts with Mr. Ho sees the skiers are finding the departing terminals
And he sees the skiers walk in the wrong way (In fact they are going to Bangkok,Thailand)
And after 3-4 minute,he sees the skiers rush to the domestic departure

The remaining part of the live is just about talking how excited to be on TAR (As the cameraman may take a few shots of him) and try to find the teams but in vain
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 21, 2017, 11:13:39 PM
You can see them on his twitter feed
https://twitter.com/JohnMho

First video he is walking around Chiang Mai, at the end of this video is where he meets them and they ask him for help
2nd video shows the skiers getting into a car
3rd one is at the airport. Skiers are running looking for the correct terminal.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 21, 2017, 11:18:41 PM
So the pic of Cody is not from John Ho?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 21, 2017, 11:19:20 PM
I have been asked for my friends looking for any speculations in Hong Kong
Due to a late night leg is going to be happened in Hong Kong, I think they may finish the leg at night
And may start the finale leg on October 23 afternoon-night

Regarding to the flights in the night which depart from Hong Kong to US
(And they probably take the cathay pacific airlines with reference to S27 experience)
The possible locations are:
Los angeles
San Francisco
Dallas
NYC
Anchorage
Boston
Newark
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 21, 2017, 11:19:27 PM
its from a different source
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 21, 2017, 11:19:38 PM
So the pic of Cody is not from John Ho?
No
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 21, 2017, 11:20:40 PM
So the pic of Cody is not from John Ho?

No. It’s from a Jody fan, and someone brought it here without sourcing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 11:21:41 PM
So the pic of Cody is not from John Ho?

No. It’s from a Jody fan, and someone brought it here without sourcing.

but is the same airport/flight as the ski girls are on for sure?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 21, 2017, 11:21:57 PM
Can we assume that’s Jody out of the race? Sitting next to a producer and not seen with the skiers (if this is correct)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 21, 2017, 11:22:46 PM
The instructions from the clue show that they are to fly on a specific flight. So there is only 1 apparently
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 21, 2017, 11:23:33 PM
So the pic of Cody is not from John Ho?

No. It’s from a Jody fan, and someone brought it here without sourcing.

A Jody fan was in the airport and took the picture?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 11:24:34 PM
Can we assume that’s Jody out of the race? Sitting next to a producer and not seen with the skiers (if this is correct)

No u can't assume that

He only teams spotted were skiers and Jody. Debaters and Indy are mia
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 21, 2017, 11:25:44 PM
Can we assume that’s Jody out of the race? Sitting next to a producer and not seen with the skiers (if this is correct)

No u can't assume that

There is only one flight I thought and the source that as asked to look for Jody didn’t see them .. then we have a pic from another source of Jody at an airport sitting with production
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 21, 2017, 11:27:07 PM
Do the producers travel alongside them??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 21, 2017, 11:27:43 PM
Can we assume that’s Jody out of the race? Sitting next to a producer and not seen with the skiers (if this is correct)

No u can't assume that

There is only one flight I thought and the source that as asked to look for Jody didn’t see them .. then we have a pic from another source of Jody at an airport sitting with production

Who knows? The leg just completed could be NEL and other teams have yet to be spotted.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 21, 2017, 11:27:58 PM
Can we assume that’s Jody out of the race? Sitting next to a producer and not seen with the skiers (if this is correct)

No u can't assume that

There is only one flight I thought and the source that as asked to look for Jody didn’t see them .. then we have a pic from another source of Jody at an airport sitting with production
Mr. Ho didn't see anyone but the skiers. Following your evidence, that would mean they already won.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 21, 2017, 11:28:06 PM
Mr HO only saw 1 team, the skiers. That is it. He did not see any other team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 11:31:10 PM
Mr ho saw the skiers in front of burger king around 1130 pm eastern on periscope.

I ask the girl on twitter who got the Cody pic in airport when it was taken and she said 15 min ago to when she posted it on twitter. That was around 1145 pm eastern
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodyfan on October 21, 2017, 11:32:56 PM
The guy in the photo looks older than Matt Schmidt.. he doesn't like him in my opinion
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2017, 11:33:16 PM
Many of us don't use Periscope. Could someone narrate it? Upload to YT?

You don't need to know how to use Periscope or reupload the vid to YT. The replays work fine in a regular browser on a computer. Click Play and go.

When he first meets them: https://www.pscp.tv/johnho/1BdGYMaeNOBGX0
When they hop into a songthaew: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ynKOoQwoWlKR
And the new airport stream: https://www.pscp.tv/johnho/1vAxRMZBWWRJl
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 21, 2017, 11:34:47 PM
So is production...omg
why omg? Because sitting next to production is a bad sign which leads to ...?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 21, 2017, 11:35:11 PM
Can we assume that’s Jody out of the race? Sitting next to a producer and not seen with the skiers (if this is correct)
No they’re waiting in flight to Bangkok
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 21, 2017, 11:35:49 PM
So the pic of Cody is not from John Ho?

No. It’s from a Jody fan, and someone brought it here without sourcing.

A Jody fan was in the airport and took the picture?

No we found someone there and talked with them and got that pic
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 21, 2017, 11:36:08 PM
After looking again, I don't think that's production either. Different faces.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 21, 2017, 11:37:38 PM
Where's Jessica?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 21, 2017, 11:38:03 PM
So the pic of Cody is not from John Ho?

No. It’s from a Jody fan, and someone brought it here without sourcing.

A Jody fan was in the airport and took the picture?

No we found someone there and talked with them and got that pic

WOW! U guys are definitely resourceful!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 11:39:19 PM
Where's Jessica?

who knows?  bathroom? getting something to drink? anything that causes you to get up for a minute at the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 21, 2017, 11:42:37 PM
After looking again, I don't think that's production either. Different faces.
You can clearly see the camera in his lap
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 21, 2017, 11:45:15 PM
yes. camera man. not a producer!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 21, 2017, 11:49:07 PM
After looking again, I don't think that's production either. Different faces.
You can clearly see the camera in his lap
they thought the other guy was the producer. but he doesn't look like him at alll
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 21, 2017, 11:49:15 PM
Georgia, I just watch on my PC, I don't have Periscope either.

So, I want to be sure I'm clear on this latest instruction.

Even if Twitter posters have planes and flights and gates, you don't want it posted here?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 21, 2017, 11:51:51 PM
I really hope not seeing sightings of debaters and Indy means skiers and Jody are in front of pack, I don't want them stuck with the speed bump for the last leg before f3
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 21, 2017, 11:53:25 PM
I really hope not seeing sightings of debaters and Indy means skiers and Jody are in front of pack, I don't want them stuck with the speed bump for the last leg before f3
Well Jody is waiting on the flight and there before other teams (skiers went to wrong location at first)... I would guess Jody and skiers ahead of the other teams
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 21, 2017, 11:56:09 PM
Front of the pack doesn't matter at this point. They are all on even ground since they are travelling together. Its an equalizer. All that matters is that the teams make it to the airport on time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: paradoxinee on October 21, 2017, 11:57:59 PM
Georgia, I just watch on my PC, I don't have Periscope either.

So, I want to be sure I'm clear on this latest instruction.

Even if Twitter posters have planes and flights and gates, you don't want it posted here?

In RFF, we don't post that kind of sighting even if it is over Twitter or Insta... because the production can change their plan. We can post that after teams arrive the city.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 21, 2017, 11:58:34 PM
Front of the pack doesn't matter at this point. They are all on even ground since they are travelling together. Its an equalizer. All that matters is that the teams make it to the airport on time

Well if this is the start of leg 11, and leg 10 was a NEL than the last team to arrive to the airport may very likely have a speedbump and be at a disadvantage for this leg of the race..  This is all speculation of course..

Are we assuming this is the start of leg 11?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 22, 2017, 12:04:09 AM
Georgia, I just watch on my PC, I don't have Periscope either.

So, I want to be sure I'm clear on this latest instruction.

Even if Twitter posters have planes and flights and gates, you don't want it posted here?

In RFF, we don't post that kind of sighting even if it is over Twitter or Insta... because the production can change their plan. We can post that after teams arrive the city.

OK.  Twitter has millions of people though, so if they were going to change things, I think twitter would be a bigger indicator for them.  Glad to know that rule here!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 12:04:26 AM
Georgia, I just watch on my PC, I don't have Periscope either.

So, I want to be sure I'm clear on this latest instruction.

Even if Twitter posters have planes and flights and gates, you don't want it posted here?

In RFF, we don't post that kind of sighting even if it is over Twitter or Insta... because the production can change their plan. We can post that after teams arrive the city.

We don't post where teams will be at XYZ future times, to prevent the risk of possible harm to the racers.

A pic of someone sitting in a airport is okay, it is a live sighting.


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 12:06:10 AM
Front of the pack doesn't matter at this point. They are all on even ground since they are travelling together. Its an equalizer. All that matters is that the teams make it to the airport on time

Correct. Getting a good seat may matter though! In this case they are all connecting so there is no advantage.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 12:07:09 AM
It does matter, because there's likely a speed bump in the next leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 22, 2017, 12:09:09 AM
Being in the front right now doesn't matter. It always matters if you are last at the end of the previous leg. But the order of how they got to the airport doesn't matter
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 12:13:55 AM
it could be telling though. if they finished so far in last, they may get to the airport later.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 12:23:22 AM
might be a stretch but rewatch the periscope,

are they allowed to get food while waiting at the airport? This girl in one of the shops similar to jess

https://twitter.com/patschampions/status/921969742398750720
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 12:25:55 AM
might be a stretch but rewatch the periscope,

are they allowed to get food while waiting at the airport? This girl in one of the shops similar to jess

https://twitter.com/patschampions/status/921969742398750720

yes they are allowed to eat at the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 12:26:40 AM
might be a stretch but rewatch the periscope,

are they allowed to get food while waiting at the airport? This girl in one of the shops similar to jess

https://twitter.com/patschampions/status/921969742398750720

Yes, it's just a matter of budgeting. I don't think that woman is Jess. Is it even the same woman in both stills?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 12:28:01 AM
Bangkok Airways Flight 224, their flight to Bangkok has just left Chiang Mai. I have a flight tracker, they left 10 minutes early.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 12:31:59 AM
Bangkok Airways Flight 224, their flight to Bangkok has just left Chiang Mai. I have a flight tracker, they left 10 minutes early.
I hope we have detectives in Bangkok ready to see who connects to Hong Kong from there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 12:34:57 AM
Bangkok Airways Flight 224, their flight to Bangkok has just left Chiang Mai. I have a flight tracker, they left 10 minutes early.

do you know how many hours it will take for them to get to hong kong?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 12:37:47 AM
Bangkok Airways Flight 224, their flight to Bangkok has just left Chiang Mai. I have a flight tracker, they left 10 minutes early.

do you know how many hours it will take for them to get to hong kong?

Cathay Pacific Flight 654: Bangkok - Hong Kong will depart at 2:55pm BK Time and arriving at 6:35pm HK Time. Hong Kong is 1 hour ahead of Thailand.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 12:38:52 AM
Bangkok Airways Flight 224, their flight to Bangkok has just left Chiang Mai. I have a flight tracker, they left 10 minutes early.

do you know how many hours it will take for them to get to hong kong?

Cathay Pacific Flight 654: Bangkok - Hong Kong will depart at 2:55pm BK Time and arriving at 6:35pm HK Time. Hong Kong is 1 hour ahead of Thailand.

so roughly 5 hours then.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 12:40:08 AM
Bangkok Airways Flight 224, their flight to Bangkok has just left Chiang Mai. I have a flight tracker, they left 10 minutes early.

do you know how many hours it will take for them to get to hong kong?

Cathay Pacific Flight 654: Bangkok - Hong Kong will depart at 2:55pm BK Time and arriving at 6:35pm HK Time. Hong Kong is 1 hour ahead of Thailand.

so roughly 5 hours then.


41 minutes left before they land in Bangkok. ETA is 1:10 pm BK Time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 22, 2017, 12:59:57 AM
Looking at the #amazingrace I see lots of people asking their friends to keep an eye out for the teams in Hong Kong. Excited to see pics  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 22, 2017, 01:03:11 AM
The pic of Cody is def at Chiang Mai airport

It seems to match first floor, right by the stairs/escalators up to departure floor

There’s another insta pic from a day ago of what seems to be the same area (different angle)

But the chairs and carpet match perfectly, as well as the wall behind them

But it just seems like Cody is waiting for Jess to do something before they head to the gates
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 22, 2017, 01:09:40 AM
Looking at the #amazingrace I see lots of people asking their friends to keep an eye out for the teams in Hong Kong. Excited to see pics  :conf:
I have asked my friends to share my instagram post

Due to this is a late night leg, so I think they will go to some crowded areas
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 22, 2017, 01:10:49 AM
The pic of Cody is def at Chiang Mai airport

It seems to match first floor, right by the stairs/escalators up to departure floor

There’s another insta pic from a day ago of what seems to be the same area (different angle)

But the chairs and carpet match perfectly, as well as the wall behind them

But it just seems like Cody is waiting for Jess to do something before they head to the gates

nah they were sitting at the gate
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 01:24:32 AM
They're now about to land. 8 minutes left.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 01:27:04 AM
They're now about to land. 8 minutes left.

good I guess we are to assume SKi Girls, Jody, Racers, and Debators are left but it would be nice to get it confirmed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 22, 2017, 01:28:32 AM
Bangkok flight is delayed by 50 min
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 01:31:27 AM
They have landed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 01:32:08 AM
Bangkok flight is delayed by 50 min

Where's your source?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 01:39:24 AM
Bangkok flight is delayed by 50 min

Where's your source?
http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA654
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 01:44:55 AM
Bangkok flight is delayed by 50 min

Where's your source?
http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA654

It could probably mean that the flight from Hong Kong to Bangkok is delayed, therefore the return flight also gets delayed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 01:49:10 AM
Good finds dangambler and DontKillMe, we can now expect them to arrive at Hong Kong sometime past 7. ETA is 7:35 pm HK Time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 02:02:35 AM
It's pretty safe to assume that the leg in Chiang mai was either an elimination or non.

If it was an elimination leg, either debaters or Indy was eliminated since we saw Jody and skiers at the airport for the flight to Hong Kong.

If it was a NEL then they all made it to Hong Kong
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 02:12:29 AM
It's pretty safe to assume that the leg in Chiang mai was either an elimination or non.

If it was an elimination leg, either debaters or Indy was eliminated since we saw Jody and skiers at the airport for the flight to Hong Kong.

If it was a NEL then they all made it to Hong Kong
I agree partly though. But if you eliminate 1 more team in Leg 10. Then Leg 11 becomes a keep on racing leg mostly and as per my knowledge I doubt if a keep on racing leg has happened with 3 teams. Someone verify it please.
So what I think is :
Leg 9 : Bahrian (Lifeguards elimination based on Dangambler's source ; 5->4 teams)
Leg 10 : Thailand (NEL)
Leg 11 : HongKong ( can be either continue on racing leg OR elimination leg)
Leg 12 : USA (if it was continue on racing leg, then 4 teams compete for finals OR if its simple elimination leg, 3 teams compete for it)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 02:34:09 AM
It's pretty safe to assume that the leg in Chiang mai was either an elimination or non.

If it was an elimination leg, either debaters or Indy was eliminated since we saw Jody and skiers at the airport for the flight to Hong Kong.

If it was a NEL then they all made it to Hong Kong
I agree partly though. But if you eliminate 1 more team in Leg 10. Then Leg 11 becomes a keep on racing leg mostly and as per my knowledge I doubt if a keep on racing leg has happened with 3 teams. Someone verify it please.
So what I think is :
Leg 9 : Bahrian (Lifeguards elimination based on Dangambler's source ; 5->4 teams)
Leg 10 : Thailand (NEL)
Leg 11 : HongKong ( can be either continue on racing leg OR elimination leg)
Leg 12 : USA (if it was continue on racing leg, then 4 teams compete for finals OR if its simple elimination leg, 3 teams compete for it)
If they do a TBC on the penultimate leg (which I doubt), they'll eliminate one of the F4 midway through the leg, a la Brooke & Robbie in TAR25 and Mike & Rochelle in TAR26.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 22, 2017, 02:47:03 AM
So is Hong Kong 100% true?
I am going to rush to the airport after I off work and hopefully reach there by 7pm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 02:48:23 AM
So is Hong Kong 100% true?
I am going to rush to the airport after I off work and hopefully reach there by 7pm

Yes, :conf: They won't be arriving there before 7 anyway, their flight is delayed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 02:48:31 AM
Or there are 4 teams racing, one gets eliminated in HK, and 3 go to the Finale. The straightforward usual.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 22, 2017, 02:54:23 AM
So is Hong Kong 100% true?
I am going to rush to the airport after I off work and hopefully reach there by 7pm

they'll get to gate at 735, and they're landing in terminal 1.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Air on October 22, 2017, 03:10:49 AM
It's pretty safe to assume that the leg in Chiang mai was either an elimination or non.

If it was an elimination leg, either debaters or Indy was eliminated since we saw Jody and skiers at the airport for the flight to Hong Kong.

If it was a NEL then they all made it to Hong Kong

yeah as opposed to *all* the other options that a leg could *possibly* be like a half-elim which is my personal favourite
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 03:27:31 AM
Was Bahrain a NEL or EL?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 22, 2017, 03:28:44 AM
So is Hong Kong 100% true?
I am going to rush to the airport after I off work and hopefully reach there by 7pm

they'll get to gate at 735, and they're landing in terminal 1.

If night leg in HK might not happen, teams may wait for hours of operation for the next morning just like as case with the theory of Zimbabwe leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 03:35:06 AM
Well, the new pics in Chiang Mai's airport make it official.  Lifeguards are indeed out at F5.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 22, 2017, 03:37:52 AM
Well, the new pics in Chiang Mai's airport make it official.  Lifeguards are indeed out at F5.

Might mean Bahrain is indeed a possible NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 22, 2017, 03:42:17 AM
Well, there are two girls wearing pink in the pic below and a girl on the right, covered by the male debater (?) and just beside the blonde girl.

So who are they other than one of them is female debater?

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33374.0;attach=270144;image)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 03:43:44 AM
Well, there are two girls wearing pink in the pic below and a girl on the right, covered by the male debater (?) and just beside the blonde girl.

So who are they other than one of them is female debater?


Pink Shirt Girls are Skiers obviously. The other blonde girl looks like she's leaning on the side of the male debater (Henry) so it must be the female debater (Evan).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 22, 2017, 03:45:43 AM
So what could be possible tasks for a night leg in Hong Kong. And on a Sunday night too.

Fun to note that the last solo HK leg (TAR17) was also a night leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Vicdemort on October 22, 2017, 03:51:31 AM
I will be on the ground tonight. Please PM me route marker location if you find any and I will try to go there. :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Vicdemort on October 22, 2017, 04:10:17 AM
Flight CX654 has been delayed to ETA 1921 HKT.

(https://i.imgur.com/LJdoehJ.png)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 04:29:50 AM
proud of you guys!! Have the most fun ever, it is AMAZING!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 04:44:01 AM
Well, there are two girls wearing pink in the pic below and a girl on the right, covered by the male debater (?) and just beside the blonde girl.

So who are they other than one of them is female debater?


Pink Shirt Girls are Skiers obviously. The other blonde girl looks like she's leaning on the side of the male debater (Henry) so it must be the female debater (Evan).
I can also see Cody sitting next to brunette skier and also one of the indy's standing in the picture. That means all are starting from a clean slate. Except, one team has to do a speed bump. I wonder which team!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 04:49:57 AM
Well, there are two girls wearing pink in the pic below and a girl on the right, covered by the male debater (?) and just beside the blonde girl.

So who are they other than one of them is female debater?


Pink Shirt Girls are Skiers obviously. The other blonde girl looks like she's leaning on the side of the male debater (Henry) so it must be the female debater (Evan).
I can also see Cody sitting next to brunette skier and also one of the indy's standing in the picture. That means all are starting from a clean slate. Except, one team has to do a speed bump. I wonder which team!
Also, I think that's Jessica sleeping with her hat over her face.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 05:08:21 AM
ETA of Cathay Pacific 654 is 1 hour and 16 minutes.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 05:08:53 AM
Well, there are two girls wearing pink in the pic below and a girl on the right, covered by the male debater (?) and just beside the blonde girl.

So who are they other than one of them is female debater?


Pink Shirt Girls are Skiers obviously. The other blonde girl looks like she's leaning on the side of the male debater (Henry) so it must be the female debater (Evan).
I can also see Cody sitting next to brunette skier and also one of the indy's standing in the picture. That means all are starting from a clean slate. Except, one team has to do a speed bump. I wonder which team!

Chiang Mai is a NEL?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: redskevin88 on October 22, 2017, 05:29:09 AM
It's pretty safe to assume that the leg in Chiang mai was either an elimination or non.

If it was an elimination leg, either debaters or Indy was eliminated since we saw Jody and skiers at the airport for the flight to Hong Kong.

If it was a NEL then they all made it to Hong Kong
I agree partly though. But if you eliminate 1 more team in Leg 10. Then Leg 11 becomes a keep on racing leg mostly and as per my knowledge I doubt if a keep on racing leg has happened with 3 teams. Someone verify it please.
So what I think is :
Leg 9 : Bahrian (Lifeguards elimination based on Dangambler's source ; 5->4 teams)
Leg 10 : Thailand (NEL)
Leg 11 : HongKong ( can be either continue on racing leg OR elimination leg)
Leg 12 : USA (if it was continue on racing leg, then 4 teams compete for finals OR if its simple elimination leg, 3 teams compete for it)

Here's something interesting. Phil said at the starting line something about a "twist" right. So we have final 3 in Hong Kong, KOR and then finale in the United States.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 05:34:32 AM
It's pretty safe to assume that the leg in Chiang mai was either an elimination or non.

If it was an elimination leg, either debaters or Indy was eliminated since we saw Jody and skiers at the airport for the flight to Hong Kong.

If it was a NEL then they all made it to Hong Kong
I agree partly though. But if you eliminate 1 more team in Leg 10. Then Leg 11 becomes a keep on racing leg mostly and as per my knowledge I doubt if a keep on racing leg has happened with 3 teams. Someone verify it please.
So what I think is :
Leg 9 : Bahrian (Lifeguards elimination based on Dangambler's source ; 5->4 teams)
Leg 10 : Thailand (NEL)
Leg 11 : HongKong ( can be either continue on racing leg OR elimination leg)
Leg 12 : USA (if it was continue on racing leg, then 4 teams compete for finals OR if its simple elimination leg, 3 teams compete for it)

Here's something interesting. Phil said at the starting line something about a "twist" right. So we have final 3 in Hong Kong, KOR and then finale in the United States.
Wrong.  Four teams are already en route to Hong Kong right now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 05:39:32 AM
Well, there are two girls wearing pink in the pic below and a girl on the right, covered by the male debater (?) and just beside the blonde girl.

So who are they other than one of them is female debater?


Pink Shirt Girls are Skiers obviously. The other blonde girl looks like she's leaning on the side of the male debater (Henry) so it must be the female debater (Evan).
I can also see Cody sitting next to brunette skier and also one of the indy's standing in the picture. That means all are starting from a clean slate. Except, one team has to do a speed bump. I wonder which team!

Chiang Mai is a NEL?
Yes! If we go by Dangambler's source of Lifeguards EL in Bahrain Leg 9. Then next leg 10, which apparently was thailand becomes NEL since we saw no Lifeguards at the airport also but did see all other 4 teams. So no one got eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 06:21:17 AM
ya somebody posted in sightings a picture of the speedbump sign and the debaters picture on it in Hong Kong.

That means they got last in Chiang Mai and it was a NEL
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 22, 2017, 06:58:42 AM
Wouldn't all four teams continue to fly together anyway at this point?  Decoy team AND to be there at the finish line.  ???

Wow, looks like people in HK have already staked out the peak with finding that speed bump up there already.  Good work!

We will probably get quite a few good spoilers.  I'm picturing a couple dozen people gathered up there waiting.   

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 07:02:58 AM
Cathay Pacific 654 arrived 40 minutes ago. Victoria Peak is a 49-minute drive from Hong Kong International Airport. They could be already on their way to a Route Info.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: redskevin88 on October 22, 2017, 07:05:58 AM
Wrong.  Four teams are already en route to Hong Kong right now.

Thanks. Sorry my bad, I thought there was a missing team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 22, 2017, 07:08:06 AM
Cathay Pacific 654 arrived 40 minutes ago. Victoria Peak is a 49-minute drive from Hong Kong International Airport. They could be already on their way to a Route Info.
I am from hong Kong but I can tell if they take taxi,it will take a lot more time for them (As the road to the Peak is so congested especially at night)

And I think they have a high possibility to go to the Metro/take the bus from HKG to Central
And take the tram from Admiralty to the Peak
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 22, 2017, 07:08:48 AM
They would have possibly to go through customs which takes a lot of time, right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 22, 2017, 07:09:30 AM
Based on the decoration of the Speed Bump board I'm guessing to make lanterns for the mid-autumn festival (which just passed)?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 22, 2017, 07:11:54 AM
They would have possibly to go through customs which takes a lot of time, right?
Not really
Customs in Hong Kong are really fast tbh
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 22, 2017, 07:14:04 AM
Based on the decoration of the Speed Bump board I'm guessing to make lanterns for the mid-autumn festival (which just passed)?
yup

Especially there are a lot of tourists right out there and I think they may sell lanterns
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 22, 2017, 07:20:39 AM
Going to HK wouldn’t debaters have a little advantages of language?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 22, 2017, 07:22:15 AM
Going to HK wouldn’t debaters have a little advantages of language?
I think Henry knows Mandarin
To be honest,people in Hong Kong are fair in Mandarin
They only speak Cantonese and English
But yeah,they will have advantages
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 22, 2017, 07:28:20 AM
Does anyone know how to link to a periscope broadcast. I'm on an IPad
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 07:37:26 AM
Does anyone know how to link to a periscope broadcast. I'm on an IPad
U can just tell us the username and we can search it
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 22, 2017, 07:38:46 AM
Does anyone know how to link to a periscope broadcast. I'm on an IPad
U can just tell us the username and we can search it

Just type #tar30 in search box and voila. I did it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 22, 2017, 07:39:17 AM
https://www.pscp.tv/w/bLs1dTFEWUVYVnZua0xvS2d8MVprS3pkUGJtdmRKdmIpX_OIr0CK9yHmpDrmWQSyEEoaKBI4aeJb2KGQ5YL_?t=283s
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 22, 2017, 07:40:35 AM
https://www.pscp.tv/w/bLs1dTFEWUVYVnZua0xvS2d8MVprS3pkUGJtdmRKdmIpX_OIr0CK9yHmpDrmWQSyEEoaKBI4aeJb2KGQ5YL_?t=283s

Thank you! I was getting a headache trying to figure it out
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 07:48:03 AM
Well the final leg to determine top 3 has started  :conf: I'm so excited and nervous. Hope we get more sightings, there seem to be a lot of fans in Hong Kong
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 22, 2017, 07:48:50 AM
Well the final leg to determine top 3 has started  :conf: I'm so excited and nervous. Hope we get more sightings, there seem to be a lot of fans in Hong Kong
I have asked for reposts in ig and facebook

Hopefully it works
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 07:49:05 AM
Well the final leg to determine top 3 has started  :conf: I'm so excited and nervous. Hope we get more sightings, there seem to be a lot of fans in Hong Kong

someone needs to find phil and the pitstop and camp there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Parovic on October 22, 2017, 07:50:52 AM
Well the final leg to determine top 3 has started  :conf: I'm so excited and nervous. Hope we get more sightings, there seem to be a lot of fans in Hong Kong

someone needs to find phil and the pitstop and camp there
For pitstop,I  think it will be in crowded areas in Hong Kong (Like Statue Square in TAR17)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 08:23:33 AM
Peach, while the debaters r doing their speed bump has all the other teams left with their next clue ? Or did the debaters somehow get ahead of everyone
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Post by: Macanese on October 22, 2017, 08:40:51 AM
damn it... Hong Kong again... I am from Macau and I never saw them and they already visited Macau twice before.... please come to Macau this time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 22, 2017, 08:50:35 AM
The Pitstop I bet that would likely to be at Kowloon Walled City Park. This has done in several TARs but has never in the US version.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 22, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Wouldn't all four teams continue to fly together anyway at this point?  Decoy team AND to be there at the finish line.  ???

Just so people don't get confused, the eliminated team will travel with production to the final city. Probably not with the final three teams. Also, it's been many seasons since they have run a decoy team on the final leg, so don't be expecting to see one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 10:58:33 AM
Which is the more difficult part in a leg ? DETOUR or ROADBLOCK
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 22, 2017, 11:02:57 AM
Which is the more difficult part in a leg ? DETOUR or ROADBLOCK

Yes.

Depends on the case. Sometimes the roadblock is more difficult, sometimes the detour is. Sometimes the editing will confuse the issue too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 11:04:26 AM
Which is the more difficult part in a leg ? DETOUR or ROADBLOCK

it depends.. The good thing about a detour is you can work together with your partner and if one is too challenging you can leave and try the other one.

Where as a roadblock once you chose a person to do it you are locked in and cannot trade with your partner (and they cannot help you).. Which is why a lot of teams get stuck on roadblocks.

Since this is leg 11 though there is no longer a trade off rule (if it is like past previous season) for the roadblock so each team will likely have their strongest person doing the roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 11:06:50 AM
Which is the more difficult part in a leg ? DETOUR or ROADBLOCK

Yes.

Depends on the case. Sometimes the roadblock is more difficult, sometimes the detour is. Sometimes the editing will confuse the issue too.
Okay. Also since last leg has no roadblock, in the leg before that, any member can perform the same, regardless of whether s/he did the roadblock in last to last leg ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 22, 2017, 11:07:55 AM
We have seen no task except the ARI on the peak and Debaters' speed bump
No way to deduce which task is more difficu;t

Which is the more difficult part in a leg ? DETOUR or ROADBLOCK

Yes.

Depends on the case. Sometimes the roadblock is more difficult, sometimes the detour is. Sometimes the editing will confuse the issue too.
Okay. Also since last leg has no roadblock, in the leg before that, any member can perform the same, regardless of whether s/he did the roadblock in last to last leg ?
Only TAR 29 did not have a roadblock for final leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 11:09:08 AM
Which is the more difficult part in a leg ? DETOUR or ROADBLOCK

it depends.. The good thing about a detour is you can work together with your partner and if one is too challenging you can leave and try the other one.

Where as a roadblock once you chose a person to do it you are locked in and cannot trade with your partner (and they cannot help you).. Which is why a lot of teams get stuck on roadblocks.

Since this is leg 11 though there is no longer a trade off rule (if it is like past previous season) for the roadblock so each team will likely have their strongest person doing the roadblock.
Gotcha! Thanks, thats some valuable info. It'll be fun watching Leg 11 roadblock then!! Stonger players will butt heads.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 22, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
No no no, there’s no rule that teams have to trade off Roadblocks, just that they have to share an equal amount

If one person did most of the roadblocks on the front half, they would eventually get stuck with the partner having to do all the rest

I’ve seen where teams get stuck with someone not well suited for the task having to do the roadblock because the team didn’t share roadblocks properly
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 11:19:48 AM
? Did the sighters lose the teams or something, we were so spoiled when they landed with pics and updates and now its just gone. lol  :chute:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 11:21:03 AM
No no no, there’s no rule that teams have to trade off Roadblocks, just that they have to share an equal amount

If one person did most of the roadblocks on the front half, they would eventually get stuck with the partner having to do all the rest

I’ve seen where teams get stuck with someone not well suited for the task having to do the roadblock because the team didn’t share roadblocks properly

I know that, but that ended leg 9 last season and leg 10 many seasons prior, so the rule is irrelavent for this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 22, 2017, 11:22:20 AM
? Did the sighters lose the teams or something, we were so spoiled when they landed with pics and updates and now its just gone. lol  :chute:

It's 1:20 in the morning there (weird and unique thing about China is the whole country all shares one timezone). The sighters are probably all asleep now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 11:24:30 AM
? Did the sighters lose the teams or something, we were so spoiled when they landed with pics and updates and now its just gone. lol  :chute:

It's 1:20 in the morning there (weird and unique thing about China is the whole country all shares one timezone). The sighters are probably all asleep now.

It's actually 12:20 there. Don't fret jboy224, there might be others that could snap pics other than our trusted sighters. Great job to our Hong Kong team!! Hong Kong is still alive at this time of the night.
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Post by: Macanese on October 22, 2017, 11:26:05 AM
? Did the sighters lose the teams or something, we were so spoiled when they landed with pics and updates and now its just gone. lol  :chute:

It's 1:20 in the morning there (weird and unique thing about China is the whole country all shares one timezone). The sighters are probably all asleep now.

nope, it's only 12:25 in the morning there in Hong Kong (and whole China).

I am from Macau and I really hope they visit again... by the way I am gonna sleep.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 11:29:25 AM
new sighting of jody
https://twitter.com/TeamJody15/status/922137081849184257
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 22, 2017, 11:31:48 AM
No no no, there’s no rule that teams have to trade off Roadblocks, just that they have to share an equal amount

If one person did most of the roadblocks on the front half, they would eventually get stuck with the partner having to do all the rest

I’ve seen where teams get stuck with someone not well suited for the task having to do the roadblock because the team didn’t share roadblocks properly

I know that, but that ended leg 9 last season and leg 10 many seasons prior, so the rule is irrelavent for this leg.

I do agree that sometimes it becomes a non-issue in the later stages of some races, but not all

Teams were still keeping things even through the penultimate leg in TAR28, or else Matt, Cole, and maybe even Korey would’ve done that monument roadblock over Dana, Sheri and Tyler and the count would’ve been 8-6 for all
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 22, 2017, 11:59:28 AM
The task at Lan Kwai Fong is in front of the Insomnia bar (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2809149,114.1552987,3a,75y,109.44h,93.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjD8-iJVf_wrRcG-LzbXG3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
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Post by: Maanca on October 22, 2017, 12:10:33 PM
Pitstop

https://www.instagram.com/p/BajhcyigGGp/?taken-by=cecillevs

There's the "1890-1930 coastline" sign, and above it is a street address of 136. When I Google the sign, it comes up as Wan Chai Road, but I don't see a matching wall at that address.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wan_Chai_Rd_1890-1930_Coastline.JPG
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 22, 2017, 12:11:46 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!
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Post by: fossil-racer on October 22, 2017, 12:32:41 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 12:33:24 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)

did that person say if they were staying there to see each team arrive?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 22, 2017, 12:34:35 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)

did that person say if they were staying there to see each team arrive?
Nope. She left. Didn't stay long to see any teams arrive.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 22, 2017, 12:51:29 PM
Is any of RFF source there at the pitstop, now that we know its location ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 12:53:01 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)

did that person say if they were staying there to see each team arrive?
Nope. She left. Didn't stay long to see any teams arrive.

Darn.  The leg is probably over by now so it stinks we got no teams at the pitstop sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 22, 2017, 01:43:08 PM
I guess the leg is over? Do we have any sightings on the pit stop while teams arriving?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 22, 2017, 01:53:13 PM
I guess the leg is over? Do we have any sightings on the pit stop while teams arriving?

Leg is over. Not sure about pitstop arrival.

No pics with teams at the pitstop yet (if anyone took them)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 01:54:18 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)

Chun Wui Mansion is Wrong...and I fall for it... :groan:

It is in 136 Wan Chai Road, a road in front of the new apartment "L Wanchai", it took me an hour to find this pit stop, and when I was there, the crew is packing everything...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 01:57:31 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)

Chun Wui Mansion is Wrong...and I fall for it... :groan:

It is in 136 Wan Chai Road, a road in front of the new apartment "L Wanchai", it took me an hour to find this pit stop, and when I was there, the crew is packing everything...

Oh, no. The street address is visible in the photo on the right. Were you able to find out ANYTHING? Talk to anyone who was there when teams arrived?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 22, 2017, 01:58:34 PM
https://twitter.com/NewbieHOH/status/922173951479918593

Phil is there talking to the Indy guys but they took away the mat?
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Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 02:00:16 PM
Phil went to the bar ? Maybe he telling Indy they maxed the time? And are out? https://twitter.com/newbiehoh/status/922173951479918593
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 22, 2017, 02:00:54 PM
https://twitter.com/NewbieHOH/status/922173951479918593

Phil is there talking to the Indy guys but they took away the mat?

So, does that mean that Indy Drivers were potentially eliminated, then? If Phil's talking to them with the cameras and there's no mat, would that indicate that they were last or unable to complete one of the tasks?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 02:01:08 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)

Chun Wui Mansion is Wrong...and I fall for it... :groan:

It is in 136 Wan Chai Road, a road in front of the new apartment "L Wanchai", it took me an hour to find this pit stop, and when I was there, the crew is packing everything...

Oh, no. The street address is visible in the photo on the right. Were you able to find out ANYTHING? Talk to anyone who was there when teams arrived?

When I was here, I was told by another fans Phil went to eliminated the 4th team in LKF....but I doubt it as he didn't really see the whole scene
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 02:01:39 PM
I think Indy drivers couldn't complete the puzzle in time...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 02:02:17 PM
Pit Stop is the junction of Johnston Rd and Wan Chai Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@22.2767312,114.175138,3a,75y,124.42h,97.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNhsy88DhiIOVEEn1t-Cvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
What a random place to put a Pit Stop!

IG Poster says this: Right in front of Chung Wui Mansion, near Wan Chai station :)

Chun Wui Mansion is Wrong...and I fall for it... :groan:

It is in 136 Wan Chai Road, a road in front of the new apartment "L Wanchai", it took me an hour to find this pit stop, and when I was there, the crew is packing everything...

Oh, no. The street address is visible in the photo on the right. Were you able to find out ANYTHING? Talk to anyone who was there when teams arrived?

When I was here, I was told by another fans Phil went to eliminated the 4th team in LKF....but I doubt it as he didn't really see the whole scene
I think that's what happened...look above.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 22, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
Uh oh. When Phil is talking to a team somewhere other than the mat, that's always a bad sign. As in, being unable to finish a task there, and he has to come over and eliminate them because everyone else is already checked in.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
OMG...so the two guys is really 4th...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 22, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
Team's worst nightmare, an elimination on the field.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 02:03:28 PM
OMG...so the two guys is really 4th...

It confirms what the person told you. Everyone in the photo looks solemn, too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 02:04:00 PM
look at the racecar drivers feet.. That is the closed breifcase we saw cody unlocking in the task?   Maybe they couldn't figure out the code?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 02:05:32 PM
Will Phil come back to Wan Chai Road? I wish I can see him at least once for a selfie...

I am sitting in the 24 hrs mc Donald next to it in hope he is hungry and want a burger...

But with the LLF thing, I think he is not coming back...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 02:06:14 PM
look at the racecar drivers feet.. That is the closed breifcase we saw cody unlocking in the task?   Maybe they couldn't figure out the code?

And the briefcase is set down closer to Phil and not the Indy drivers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 02:07:17 PM
look at the racecar drivers feet.. That is the closed breifcase we saw cody unlocking in the task?   Maybe they couldn't figure out the code?

And the briefcase is set down closer to Phil and not the Indy drivers.

ya they were supposed to open it and get a map or clue inside for their next destination.. My guess is they couldn't get it open by the time all the other teams finished so phil went to them and eliminated them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 22, 2017, 02:09:28 PM
That really does suck for the Indy Drivers. After so many legs of not knowing who the mystery team was, I was excited when I found out it was them, and I can't even explain why.

Honestly, going out this way is probably worse than even with bad luck or narrowly losing to another team, in my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: north09 on October 22, 2017, 02:13:06 PM
That really does suck for the Indy Drivers. After so many legs of not knowing who the mystery team was, I was excited when I found out it was them, and I can't even explain why.

Honestly, going out this way is probably worse than even with bad luck or narrowly losing to another team, in my opinion.

I was too. The good thing is, as for all teams that go out in 4th place, is they got to see every country visited this year and I guess that's a pretty cool thing to say. Maybe they got some trips or prizes along the way. I'll still root for um!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 02:14:09 PM
although.. Five M/M teams and none of them made it to the finale.. That is insane..

I do feel bad for the drivers though.. It sucks when you get stuck on something espically so close to the end.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 22, 2017, 02:15:05 PM
I guess we know the final 3. In TAR 23, none of the 5 MM teams made the finals too.

This season, we found 1 U-turn, 2 Speedbump'd teams ( 1 indirectly) and 7 pitstops!!! :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 02:15:41 PM
although.. Five M/M teams and none of them made it to the finale.. That is insane..

I do feel bad for the drivers though.. It sucks when you get stuck on something espically so close to the end.

Right. They were so close to making F3. Dang, but that means Debaters came through and made it despite the speed bump?  :didimiss:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 02:17:18 PM
although.. Five M/M teams and none of them made it to the finale.. That is insane..

I do feel bad for the drivers though.. It sucks when you get stuck on something espically so close to the end.

Right. They were so close to making F3. Dang, but that means Debaters came through and made it despite the speed bump?  :didimiss:

ya debaters are smart.. That code the racecar drivers got stuck on is right in their wheelhouse.  Who knows how long the poor guys would have been there doing that had phil not came to them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 22, 2017, 02:20:41 PM
although.. Five M/M teams and none of them made it to the finale.. That is insane..

I do feel bad for the drivers though.. It sucks when you get stuck on something espically so close to the end.

Right. They were so close to making F3. Dang, but that means Debaters came through and made it despite the speed bump?  :didimiss:

I guess so. Sometimes, Speed Bumps are easier to solve if you have the time to catch up to other teams. Seeing as the Indy Drivers got stuck on this one puzzle, presumably it allowed for the Debaters to catch up and pass them at some point. They all were on the same flight, so they all pretty much started the leg at the exact same time. If the Speed Bump took only an additional 20 minutes, they could have powered through the rest of the tasks with ease.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 22, 2017, 02:21:57 PM
So 3 out of 4 teams in this pic (rip yoga moms) made to F3? Wonder if it's just coincidence or they made early agreement to help each other out if possible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 02:24:24 PM
This final 3 is really good and they are all threats.

The debaters will be a very threat to Jody and skiers with the mental puzzle in the last leg of the whole journey.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 02:26:54 PM
So 3 out of 4 teams in this pic (rip yoga moms) made to F3? Wonder if it's just coincidence or they made early agreement to help each other out if possible.

Doesn't seem like there was an agreement. Remember in Prague when Jody weren't spotted with the group of Skiers, Debaters, and Twins? And Jody was sitting by themselves in the front away from Debaters, Twins, and Lifeguards who were bunched together on the flight from Zurich.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jdessy on October 22, 2017, 02:30:52 PM
This final 3 is really good and they are all threats.

The debaters will be a very threat to Jody and skiers with the mental puzzle in the last leg of the whole journey.

Agreed. Although I don't know what the Skiers or Debaters are like and they could very well piss me off when the season comes out (much like Jody could also piss me off, despite me being fans of them), I can acknowledge how strong they are. Obviously they are if they got this far, but also because I believe all three teams have been mostly in the front of the pack. I know Jody have been lower down in the rankings compared to the Skiers (not sure about Debaters), but they've all seemed to work very hard.

Now, if none of the teams can end up another Brooke/Scott, that would be very helpful in rooting for them when the season starts up. Unfortunately, there's always that one team in F3 that pisses me off from the beginning.

Even as a Jody fan, I'm ok if they get third place, because they got farther than I expected them to. Though I'd really like them to beat out the current BB/TAR crossover team, Rachel/Brendon, and get at least second.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 22, 2017, 02:33:36 PM
Assuming there's some form of grand memory challenge as per usual in the final leg, if smarts got the Debaters through the race, I could very well see them having the edge there. A la Amy & Maya, who weren't exactly physically fit people.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 22, 2017, 02:36:56 PM
Well the Debaters look pretty fit. So if they're smart and reasonably fit, that's a pretty good combination.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Well the Debaters look pretty fit. So if they're smart and reasonably fit, that's a pretty good combination.

yep.. They got lucky with that f4 NEL..  MIght have just won them $1 million dollars.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 22, 2017, 02:41:06 PM
Though I'd really like them to beat out the current BB/TAR crossover team, Rachel/Brendon, and get at least second.
I kinda hope they don't  :D :angel
Though, at least, I don't think any team will ever even get the chance to reach the Final 3 twice considering TAR's future.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 02:45:48 PM
The crew is finally packing everything else in the pit stop now, and I don't see Phil anymore...
It seems s late and I am heading home now. I wonder if they start the leg on the exact same place tmr...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 02:47:21 PM
Though I'd really like them to beat out the current BB/TAR crossover team, Rachel/Brendon, and get at least second.
I kinda hope they don't  :D :angel
Though, at least, I don't think any team will ever even get the chance to reach the Final 3 twice considering TAR's future.

Jody is already better than Brenchel imo..  Brenchel played against weaker competition on season 20 and still barely squeaked by never winning a single leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 22, 2017, 02:47:28 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodyfan on October 22, 2017, 02:48:02 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 22, 2017, 02:48:51 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

Yeah. It usually happens about once a season
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 02:49:04 PM
Though I'd really like them to beat out the current BB/TAR crossover team, Rachel/Brendon, and get at least second.
I kinda hope they don't  :D :angel
Though, at least, I don't think any team will ever even get the chance to reach the Final 3 twice considering TAR's future.

Jody is already better than Brenchel imo..  Brenchel played against weaker competition on season 20 and still barely squeaked by never winning a single leg.

The competition this season looks fierce. A lot of sharp and fit teams that have dominated in their respective fields.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 02:49:27 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

yes it happens.. If he doesn't do that than he has to be out there all night..  Phil needs his rest too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 22, 2017, 02:50:12 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

Yes, twice last season, in fact. It's mainly when everyone's already checked in and that team's so far behind they're still working on a task.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on October 22, 2017, 02:52:22 PM
so sad if Indy are eliminated that way :( , one of my pre-race favorites. I was so excited when they were still on the race after no sighting for so many legs. Other than that, i really want MM vs MF vs FF team in the finale
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 02:54:07 PM
the most memorable time i remember phil going to tell someone they lost is in that haybell challenge finding the clue in the haybells in the farm.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 02:57:52 PM
the most memorable time i remember phil going to tell someone they lost is in that haybell challenge finding the clue in the haybells in the farm.

This might beat that. Telling the team on a crowded party street with drunken people being loud all around.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 03:01:45 PM
Indy and Debaters were seen last at the briefcase puzzle challenge near the bar.

Debaters must have figured it out and indy must have been stumped.

a twitter user said that the skiers arrived there with them too, so its looking like Jody beat them to it and got first since this pic was taken a while after jody already completed it.

(https://preview.ibb.co/gdzQWR/DMx_CS_NVQAA2g3k.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eyguQm)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 22, 2017, 03:08:06 PM
I didn't realize they were handcuffed to the suitcase. Maybe they had to mix drinks with it attached?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 03:08:11 PM
Y'all sure are assuming a lot. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 03:18:46 PM
the most memorable time i remember phil going to tell someone they lost is in that haybell challenge finding the clue in the haybells in the farm.

The two poor girls that push the hay 7 hours for nothing  :groan:

Season 6
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 03:40:57 PM
Walking all the way wrong to the chung wui building is my biggest mistake, I should have read the clue in RFF carefully which clearly said Wan Chai Road.

The reason why someone mention Ching Wui Road is because they have the exactly same sign of 1890-1930 stand...So when I arrived the pit stop and realised it is all over, it's just like I got eliminated without a pit stop 😩

The only thing I saw is the clue box...

End of my Race story :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 03:42:36 PM
Walking all the way wrong to the chung wui building is my biggest mistake,
I should have read the clue carefully which clear said Wan Chai Road.

The reason why someone mention Ching Wui Road is because they have the exactly same sign of 1890-1930 stand...

So when I arrived the pit stop and realised it is all over, it's just like I got eliminated without a pit stop 😩

The only thing I saw is the clue box...

End of my Race story :(

It's a good story even without a happy ending.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 22, 2017, 03:52:14 PM
At least you could see a cluebox. It's more than I can say, and they were filming only 15 blocks away from my home.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 03:56:35 PM
I was going to ask if there was possibly a fast forward in this leg but doesnt that mean you do a task and go automatically to the pitstop? all teams were sighted at the bar so not likely unless they all declined
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: amazing_hey on October 22, 2017, 04:02:34 PM
Walking all the way wrong to the chung wui building is my biggest mistake,
I should have read the clue carefully which clear said Wan Chai Road.

The reason why someone mention Ching Wui Road is because they have the exactly same sign of 1890-1930 stand...

So when I arrived the pit stop and realised it is all over, it's just like I got eliminated without a pit stop 😩

The only thing I saw is the clue box...

End of my Race story :(

It's a good story even without a happy ending.

I took a taxi from Kowloon to Wan Chai, the moment I get of the Taxi, I am too excited and start to run, My iPhone fly to the air in a sudden, I was like OMFG, and thanks god it didn't break. That's the best part of my story in the beginning.

Anyway, I am glad that the debater and Jody make it.

Now I have to make a choice and I am gonna pick debaters, the real dating version of the blind dating version of Vanck and Ashton...lol

To be honest, Asia male with a "Non-Asian" female couple is not that common compared to "Non-Asian" male with a Asian female couple.

Since we already have a Cindy and Ernie as a winner representative of the Asian girl one, It is time for Asian boy - Henry & Evan!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 04:03:34 PM
You were an important part of today. What you said about Phil leaving the matt to eliminate a team was great information.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Clueless on October 22, 2017, 04:12:34 PM
How is TAR going to stop the spoilers in a populated city?
Can't be stopped anywhere at this point. People have been actively rounded up all over the place and aggressively encouraged to be on the lookout, take pics, videos etc. Honestly, no way the ending can't be ruined now. Lesson learned. No more spoiler sites for me. (No offense to those who like them!) I'm sure the winner will be announced all over the Internet in a couple of days so no need to watch TAR 30 for me. Like I said, lesson learned. :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 22, 2017, 04:16:01 PM
The rules on this board are that  for the safety of crew and teams, we don't post future locations until the teams are on there way.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 22, 2017, 04:17:04 PM
aribb19, read last post in sightings thread.

Clueless, it's really unlikely to be spoiled if you withdraw from any TAR discussion forums and stop following people that might post spoilers on twitter. There is always a way.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 22, 2017, 04:22:56 PM
Not trying to be argumentative but sincerely confused. How does not posting future locations reconcile with all the posts of future flights from various airports other that a lack of certainty? Also, if hints of future locations aren't posted how will we get sightings in the future? Isn't production responsible for providing and ensuring team security?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 04:28:07 PM
Guys Info is NOT the point. Right or Wrong.

The point is that from day one here The FIRST POST IN SPOILERS SAYS NO FUTURE INFO!!

How would you feel if a crazy loon targeted TAR?  Because they knew days ahead where and when they would be?

It is highly dangerous and against our rules, so DO NOT DO IT AGAIN.


An hour maybe, days no.

And THAT is a MODERATOR call.

I have no control over others, if they want to be irresponsible I cannot help it. But here you do it again, and that's it.


PLEASE READ POST #1 CLOSELY IF YOU HAVE NOT  ALREADY.

It is potentially DANGEROUS to tell today's world where teams will be ahead of time..

It is NOT allowed here at RFF and I hope other thoughtful  posters will consider that as well.

You can trust that RFF has things well in hand, and you will be welcome to join us at the right time for more fun.

RULES:

No location info to be revealed before teams are on the way. (I'll let you know when!)

NO spoiling of the Final 3 Finish order.

Respect each other, love the game, and have a super fun time!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
Not trying to be argumentative but sincerely confused. How does not posting future locations reconcile with all the posts of future flights from various airports other that a lack of certainty? Also, if hints of future locations aren't posted how will we get sightings in the future? Isn't production responsible for providing and ensuring team security?

We protect 3 things here.

The Start Line, The Finish Line , and the Final 3 Finish order.

We also do not post concrete info re locations in advance. Lack of certainty IS the deal.

That is our choice, it is not up for discussion.

We have covered this over and over again, and I am sorry some of you may not agree.

This is one case that we feel it is the RIGHT thing to do.

Spoilers are fun, but even taking the slightest risk of endangering our racers, or beloved crew is not happening here.

Neither is HURTING the show by publishing the winner order. I have been there done that in Season 11 when a top to bottom boot list was shared. It ruined the anticipation and the buzz and the suspense. Same more recently.
We need good ratings, so this is a small give back to TAR for all the joy they give us.

Move on okay? No further discussion on this now... maybe later when we have all slept a week.

:tu

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 22, 2017, 04:38:33 PM
I was going to ask if there was possibly a fast forward in this leg but doesnt that mean you do a task and go automatically to the pitstop? all teams were sighted at the bar so not likely unless they all declined

Highly unlikely. They've never done a fast forward this late in the race and I doubt they ever will. It would suck some of the drama out of the leg and make cab driver luck in getting to the clue box first even more important. They should be working to make cab drivers less important, not more.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 04:46:31 PM
will this thread be active anymore or does discussion stop now that the final leg is taking place???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 04:47:44 PM
will this thread be active anymore or does discussion stop now that the final leg is taking place???

I dunno we can't really talk about anything from this point on.. Now that we know the final 3.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 22, 2017, 04:48:43 PM
I guess we could talk about when we might think TAR30 will premiere...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 22, 2017, 04:52:23 PM
The job does not end here. Experience taught us that sightings can still pop up even after the season filming is over. Wouldn't be the first time neither the last one.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
but are we allowed to post future sightings in the final leg or is it considered spoiling final placement??????
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 22, 2017, 04:57:22 PM
but are we allowed to post future sightings in the final leg or is it considered spoiling final placement??????

You can post sightings during the final leg. You cannot post any finish line pics unless cleared by a moderator! You cannot post any finish line placements!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 22, 2017, 04:59:24 PM
Though I'd really like them to beat out the current BB/TAR crossover team, Rachel/Brendon, and get at least second.
I kinda hope they don't  :D :angel
Though, at least, I don't think any team will ever even get the chance to reach the Final 3 twice considering TAR's future.

Jody is already better than Brenchel imo..  Brenchel played against weaker competition on season 20 and still barely squeaked by never winning a single leg.

I've only watched 3 seasons... but this seems like a really stout cast compared to the seasons I watched when they had very few what id consider athletes
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 22, 2017, 05:04:27 PM
but are we allowed to post future sightings in the final leg or is it considered spoiling final placement??????

You can post sightings during the final leg. You cannot post any finish line pics unless cleared by a moderator! You cannot post any finish line placements!

If you have any doubts about it, go the archive section, pick a previous season and see the live sightings and you will see that there are lot of pics and info of each final leg. However, you'll never find info about who won, who was second or third place.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 22, 2017, 05:06:28 PM
if you're in HK and want to go to airport to possibly see them hit me up and I can give you an idea of where we believe they will be
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 22, 2017, 05:07:12 PM
If you look at past seasons, you will also see that not everybody is interested in the boot order. Many just like to know info on the routes, detours, roadblocks, etc. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
I was going to ask if there was possibly a fast forward in this leg but doesnt that mean you do a task and go automatically to the pitstop? all teams were sighted at the bar so not likely unless they all declined

Highly unlikely. They've never done a fast forward this late in the race and I doubt they ever will. It would suck some of the drama out of the leg and make cab driver luck in getting to the clue box first even more important. They should be working to make cab drivers less important, not more.

didnt they do a fastfowrd in brenchel season where she could have shaved her head and declined? for the final 4 leg
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 22, 2017, 05:09:46 PM
I was going to ask if there was possibly a fast forward in this leg but doesnt that mean you do a task and go automatically to the pitstop? all teams were sighted at the bar so not likely unless they all declined

Highly unlikely. They've never done a fast forward this late in the race and I doubt they ever will. It would suck some of the drama out of the leg and make cab driver luck in getting to the clue box first even more important. They should be working to make cab drivers less important, not more.

didnt they do a fastfowrd in brenchel season where she could have shaved her head and declined? for the final 4 leg

It was when 5 teams were remaining and were to be cut to 4 teams for next leg. It was Leg 10.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 22, 2017, 05:10:14 PM
I was going to ask if there was possibly a fast forward in this leg but doesnt that mean you do a task and go automatically to the pitstop? all teams were sighted at the bar so not likely unless they all declined

Highly unlikely. They've never done a fast forward this late in the race and I doubt they ever will. It would suck some of the drama out of the leg and make cab driver luck in getting to the clue box first even more important. They should be working to make cab drivers less important, not more.

didnt they do a fastfowrd in brenchel season where she could have shaved her head and declined? for the final 4 leg

That was in the Final Five, and TAR25 also had one. It's also the latest a Fast Forward has popped up in the Race for quite some time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 05:29:46 PM
although.. Five M/M teams and none of them made it to the finale.. That is insane..
I guess we know the final 3. In TAR 23, none of the 5 MM teams made the finals [either].
I'm totally okay with this.  As I said several pages back, consider it another big dose of karma for CBS and their casting department.  They really thought that America would like a whopping FIVE men's teams in the cast?  That was just way too many.  Season after season, we get a meager number of women's teams, yet they feel okay overcasting and overloading us with four and, three times (TAR4, TAR23, and now TAR30), five men's teams?!  Casting?!  So to have none of them make it to the end yet again makes me all giddy inside.

This is a decent parallel to TAR23, though: five men's teams, all of them eliminated before the end, with four of them falling in a row.  Rowan & Shane, Chester & Ephraim, Brandon & Adam, and Tim & Danny for TAR23, and Joey & Tim (Eaters), Shaun & Cedric (NBA), Trevor & Chris (Violinists), and Eric & Daniel (Twins) for TAR30.  And the final men's team gets the ax right before the end -- Leo & Jamal for TAR23, and now Alex & Connor (Indy) for TAR30.  In addition, one coed team and two women's teams were eliminated over the course of each season -- Hoskote & Naina, Nicky & Kim, and Ally & Ashley for TAR23, and now Kayla & Dessie (Ring Girls), April & Sarah (Yoga Moms), and Lucas & Brittany (Lifeguards) for TAR30.

Good parallel, and good end result for this leg.

So Cody & Jessica (Jody), Henry & Evan (Debaters), and Jen & Kristi (Skiers) are our F3, huh?  All three have sounded like they were in front at different times (with Jen & Kristi sounding like they were in or near the front a bit more than the other two), so it could be a tough race to the end.  Hoping there is one.

And I'm just glad that another women's team has finally cracked the F3 after so long!  I think Amy & Maya were our last one to do so five seasons ago, right?  So Jen & Kristi are the magic tenth one to make it there, following Lyn & Karlyn (TAR10), Dustin & Kandice (TAR11), Charla & Mirna (TAR11), Jaime & Cara (TAR14), Brook & Claire (TAR17), Nat & Kat (TAR17), Kisha & Jen (TAR18), Mona & Beth (TAR22), and Amy & Maya (TAR25).  Congrats, ladies, for joining that super-rare club of women's teams who reach the end!  After the other two were booted so soon this season, I really worried for them, but they turned out to be one of the strongest teams this season, if not the strongest (hopefully)!

Either way, with Cody & Jessica at the end, Paul Abrahamian's head must be exploding right now.  Or it will be when he hears of this.

Whew.  Sorry for all the trivia.  Just had to vent my excitement about this somehow. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 05:31:14 PM
IK no talk about the finale location, but i recall phil saying something about heights, imagine for a crazy first that he has the finish line at the top of something very BIG they have to climb too?
 :spy:

would make for very good tv, *are you scared to climb to win a mill?* and would have us at the edge of our seats if there was a race to the top
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 05:32:07 PM
will this thread be active anymore or does discussion stop now that the final leg is taking place???

We'll be discussing EVERYTHING right thru the last episode airs...and then some.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 22, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
IK no talk about the finale location, but i recall phil saying something about heights, imagine for a crazy first that he has the finish line at the top of something very BIG they have to climb too?
 :spy:

would make for very good tv, *are you scared to climb to win a mill?* and would have us at the edge of our seats if there was a race to the top

This could also unfortunately backfire, Brenchel's 2nd season had a Finish Line dependent on who got to the final cluebox first because it was skydiving to the Finish Line :/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 05:37:14 PM
will this thread be active anymore or does discussion stop now that the final leg is taking place???

We'll be discussing EVERYTHING right thru the last episode airs...and then some.
Peach, are the teams still taking their Pit Stop?  Or have they started the final leg by now?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 05:38:16 PM
IK no talk about the finale location, but i recall phil saying something about heights, imagine for a crazy first that he has the finish line at the top of something very BIG they have to climb too?
 :spy:

would make for very good tv, *are you scared to climb to win a mill?* and would have us at the edge of our seats if there was a race to the top

This could also unfortunately backfire, Brenchel's 2nd season had a Finish Line dependent on who got to the final cluebox first because it was skydiving to the Finish Line :/

I remember that, wasnt that for allstars .

this is a big season since its 30. I hope they go all out and make it a crazy finish line. it has to do something with heights because we didnt see anything crazy height wise for spoilers in the legs.
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Post by: Lemontail on October 22, 2017, 05:38:59 PM
although.. Five M/M teams and none of them made it to the finale.. That is insane..
I guess we know the final 3. In TAR 23, none of the 5 MM teams made the finals [either].
I'm totally okay with this.  As I said several pages back, consider it another big dose of karma for CBS and their casting department.  They really thought that America would like a whopping FIVE men's teams in the cast?  That was just way too many.  Season after season, we get a meager number of women's teams, yet they feel okay overcasting and overloading us with four and, three times (TAR4, TAR23, and now TAR30), five men's teams?!  WTF, casting?!  So to have none of them make it to the end yet again makes me all giddy inside.

This is a decent parallel to TAR23, though: five men's teams, all of them eliminated before the end, with four of them falling in a row.  Rowan & Shane, Chester & Ephraim, Brandon & Adam, and Tim & Danny for TAR23, and Joey & Tim (Eaters), Shaun & Cedric (NBA), Trevor & Chris (Violinists), and Eric & Daniel (Twins) for TAR30.  And the final men's team gets the ax right before the end -- Leo & Jamal for TAR23, and now Alex & Connor (Indy) for TAR30.  In addition, one coed team and two women's teams were eliminated over the course of each season -- Hoskote & Naina, Nicky & Kim, and Ally & Ashley for TAR23, and now Kayla & Dessie (Ring Girls), April & Sarah (Yoga Moms), and Lucas & Brittany (Lifeguards) for TAR30.

Good parallel, and good end result for this leg.

So Cody & Jessica (Jody), Henry & Evan (Debaters), and Jen & Kristi (Skiers) are our F3, huh?  All three have sounded like they were in front at different times (with Jen & Kristi sounding like they were in or near the front a bit more than the other two), so it could be a tough race to the end.  Hoping there is one.

And I'm just glad that another women's team has finally cracked the F3 after so long!  I think Amy & Maya were our last one to do so five seasons ago, right?  So Jen & Kristi are the magic tenth one to make it there, following Lyn & Karlyn (TAR10), Dustin & Kandice (TAR11), Charla & Mirna (TAR11), Jaime & Cara (TAR14), Brook & Claire (TAR17), Nat & Kat (TAR17), Kisha & Jen (TAR18), Mona & Beth (TAR22), and Amy & Maya (TAR25).  Congrats, ladies, for joining that super-rare club of women's teams who reach the end!  After the other two were booted so soon this season, I really worried for them, but they turned out to be one of the strongest teams this season, if not the strongest (hopefully)!

Either way, with Cody & Jessica at the end, Paul Abrahamian's head must be exploding right now.  Or it will be when he hears of this.

Whew.  Sorry for all the trivia.  Just had to vent my excitement about this somehow. :)

Sorry, but you forgot that Caroline & Jennifer also made F3 in that season that shall not be named, so that makes eleven F/F teams to make it.
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2017, 05:40:13 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

Yeah. It usually happens about once a season

I think 5 or 6 times in all? Our TAR Wiki would have that info, go post in Q's and it will get answered.
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Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 05:46:26 PM
although.. Five M/M teams and none of them made it to the finale.. That is insane..
I guess we know the final 3. In TAR 23, none of the 5 MM teams made the finals [either].
I'm totally okay with this.  As I said several pages back, consider it another big dose of karma for CBS and their casting department.  They really thought that America would like a whopping FIVE men's teams in the cast?  That was just way too many.  Season after season, we get a meager number of women's teams, yet they feel okay overcasting and overloading us with four and, three times (TAR4, TAR23, and now TAR30), five men's teams?!  Casting?!  So to have none of them make it to the end yet again makes me all giddy inside.

This is a decent parallel to TAR23, though: five men's teams, all of them eliminated before the end, with four of them falling in a row.  Rowan & Shane, Chester & Ephraim, Brandon & Adam, and Tim & Danny for TAR23, and Joey & Tim (Eaters), Shaun & Cedric (NBA), Trevor & Chris (Violinists), and Eric & Daniel (Twins) for TAR30.  And the final men's team gets the ax right before the end -- Leo & Jamal for TAR23, and now Alex & Connor (Indy) for TAR30.  In addition, one coed team and two women's teams were eliminated over the course of each season -- Hoskote & Naina, Nicky & Kim, and Ally & Ashley for TAR23, and now Kayla & Dessie (Ring Girls), April & Sarah (Yoga Moms), and Lucas & Brittany (Lifeguards) for TAR30.

Good parallel, and good end result for this leg.

So Cody & Jessica (Jody), Henry & Evan (Debaters), and Jen & Kristi (Skiers) are our F3, huh?  All three have sounded like they were in front at different times (with Jen & Kristi sounding like they were in or near the front a bit more than the other two), so it could be a tough race to the end.  Hoping there is one.

And I'm just glad that another women's team has finally cracked the F3 after so long!  I think Amy & Maya were our last one to do so five seasons ago, right?  So Jen & Kristi are the magic tenth one to make it there, following Lyn & Karlyn (TAR10), Dustin & Kandice (TAR11), Charla & Mirna (TAR11), Jaime & Cara (TAR14), Brook & Claire (TAR17), Nat & Kat (TAR17), Kisha & Jen (TAR18), Mona & Beth (TAR22), and Amy & Maya (TAR25).  Congrats, ladies, for joining that super-rare club of women's teams who reach the end!  After the other two were booted so soon this season, I really worried for them, but they turned out to be one of the strongest teams this season, if not the strongest (hopefully)!

Either way, with Cody & Jessica at the end, Paul Abrahamian's head must be exploding right now.  Or it will be when he hears of this.

Whew.  Sorry for all the trivia.  Just had to vent my excitement about this somehow. :)

Sorry, but you forgot that Caroline & Jennifer also made F3 in that season that shall not be named, so that makes eleven F/F teams to make it.
Oh, yeah!  How could I forget Caroline & Jennifer also making it?!  We do have eleven!:)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 22, 2017, 06:08:14 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

From the top of my head: yes. TAR5/6/15/16/23/29 are the ones that quickly come to mind.
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Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 06:31:32 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

From the top of my head: yes. TAR5/6/15/16/23/29 are the ones that quickly come to mind.
Yep.  You got all of those right.

TAR5: Marshall & Lance on leg six.
TAR6: Lena & Kristy on leg three.
TAR15: Maria & Tiffany on leg seven.
TAR16: Dana & Adrian (thanks to Dana's laziness) on leg one (a pathetic time to get that kind of elimination)
TAR23: Chester & Ephraim on leg three.
TAR29: Shamir & Sara on leg four.

. . . But you also forgot one more, at least:

TAR13: Toni & Dallas on leg ten.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 22, 2017, 06:36:22 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

From the top of my head: yes. TAR5/6/15/16/23/29 are the ones that quickly come to mind.
Yep.  You all of those right.

TAR5: Marshall & Lance on leg six.
TAR6: Lena & Kristy on leg three.
TAR15: Maria & Tiffany on leg seven.
TAR16: Dana & Adrian (thanks to Dana's laziness) on leg one (a pathetic time to get that kind of elimination)
TAR23: Chester & Ephraim on leg three.
TAR29: Shamir & Sara on leg four.

. . . But you also forgot one more, at least:

TAR13: Toni & Dallas on leg ten.
TAR 29 Floyd and Becca on Leg 10
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 06:41:36 PM
I've only watched about 5 seasons. Has that happened before where Phil goes to eliminate a team without them finishing the leg?

From the top of my head: yes. TAR5/6/15/16/23/29 are the ones that quickly come to mind.
Yep.  You all of those right.

TAR5: Marshall & Lance on leg six.
TAR6: Lena & Kristy on leg three.
TAR15: Maria & Tiffany on leg seven.
TAR16: Dana & Adrian (thanks to Dana's laziness) on leg one (a pathetic time to get that kind of elimination)
TAR23: Chester & Ephraim on leg three.
TAR29: Shamir & Sara on leg four.

. . . But you also forgot one more, at least:

TAR13: Toni & Dallas on leg ten.
TAR 29 Floyd and Becca on Leg 10

You forgot one of the worst teams on TAR, TAR 27's Kelly & Shevonne who finishes a slider puzzle in 3 hours and 45 minutes. Phil eliminated them on the spot at Copacabana Beach in Rio, Leg 1. :funny:
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Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 06:42:20 PM
I am rewatching the final 3 leg major puzzles and S16 was so easy, (and this is when they could still write details down and jordan and dan had the order in their journal)

They had to carry a box across town to a studio and then arrange the eliminated teams in order plus add in the non elimination legs. After that they got a clue with a riddle to the final finish line. "candelstick park"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMxxqXoWAAE4RqC.jpg)
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Post by: TARUSAFan on October 22, 2017, 06:43:04 PM
Kinda familiar with the suitcase task. I've done something similar in the past. Solving and it was frustrating.
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Post by: dryedmangoez on October 22, 2017, 06:50:11 PM
Looking a little like the Past Seasons discussion thread. lol

Anyway I assume that they are going to be leaving Monday afternoon or evening from Hong Kong. Which would mean that the earliest they would arrive at any American location would be Monday afternoon or evening as well?
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Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 06:53:32 PM
Looking a little like the Past Seasons discussion thread. lol

Anyway I assume that they are going to be leaving Monday afternoon or evening from Hong Kong. Which would mean that the earliest they would arrive at any American location would be Monday afternoon or evening as well?
well they probably went to sleep right after they finished the leg since it was late in hongkong. wont they wake up early in the AM to catch the flight to the final probably held tomorrow?
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Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 06:58:43 PM
How soon after do the contestants return home? Are they held for a couple of days to do press?
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Post by: dryedmangoez on October 22, 2017, 07:11:23 PM
Well, the HK leg finished around 1 or 2 am I think? I know Pit Stops aren't all 12 hours any more. But even if they were released in the morning, the earliest flights they could take would be around 12 pm which would mean the earliest they could arrive at any American location would be in the afternoon as well I guess. Direct flights of course. Sometimes they do make teams take specific flights to get them somewhere at specific times.
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 22, 2017, 07:13:42 PM
Well, the HK leg finished around 1 or 2 am I think? I know Pit Stops aren't all 12 hours any more. But even if they were released in the morning, the earliest flights they could take would be around 12 pm which would mean the earliest they could arrive at any American location would be in the afternoon as well I guess. Direct flights of course. Sometimes they do make teams take specific flights to get them somewhere at specific times.
Peach will have flight information, no worries  :hoot:
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Post by: Neobie on October 22, 2017, 07:16:44 PM
Remember that since TAR 27, teams weren't even released for the final leg, they're just transported straight to their flight by production.
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Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 07:17:49 PM
Remember that in the past few seasons, teams weren't even released for the final leg, they're just transported straight to their flight by production.
Which seasons did that?
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Post by: dryedmangoez on October 22, 2017, 07:25:05 PM
Really? That's odd. So the teams do their interviews and are taken directly to the airport? Even TAR25 and TAR26 had at least a couple hours downtime even at the airport.
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Post by: Neobie on October 22, 2017, 07:35:23 PM
Oh, I mean there's downtime, but there hasn't been an official Pit Start (i.e. release based on check-in time, clue-ripping). When it's time for the flight, production just bundles them all to the airport for their spoonfed flights (e.g. from Macau to Hong Kong Airport in TAR 27, from Shenzhen to Guangzhou Airport in TAR 28).
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Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 07:38:25 PM
is the final leg for sure  tomorrow or could they give them a day off and have it on Tues?
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Post by: dryedmangoez on October 22, 2017, 07:44:10 PM
Oh. Yeah i was just wondering because depending on if they leave Hong Kong early then they might be able to squeeze in the final leg on Monday afternoon and finishing  in the evening wherever they're going in the US it doesn't matter whether it's on the West Coast or east coast. Otherwise, thinking about at least the 12-hour Pit Stop as an example, they'll leave Hong Kong some time past 1 or 2 p.m. that'll get them into the United States sometime late Monday night or early Tuesday morning I guess.
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Post by: TSPKM on October 22, 2017, 08:04:16 PM
Y'all sure are assuming a lot. :funny:

It’s jboy..what do you expect. It’s always an assumption Jody come in first every leg
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Post by: Winteriscoming on October 22, 2017, 08:08:24 PM
Y'all sure are assuming a lot. :funny:

It’s jboy..what do you expect. It’s always an assumption Jody come in first every leg

to be fair they survived a uturn and outlasted a lot of good teams..  Wasn't a fan of bb19 in general but they are impressing me on the race.. Didn't think they had it in them to make it this far (espically Jessica).

All the 3 teams left deserve major props.  This looks like one of the toughest overall casts ever.
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Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 08:12:45 PM
Y'all sure are assuming a lot. :funny:

It’s jboy..what do you expect. It’s always an assumption Jody come in first every leg

to be fair they survived a uturn and outlasted a lot of good teams..  Wasn't a fan of bb19 in general but they are impressing me on the race.. Didn't think they had it in them to make it this far (espically Jessica).

All the 3 teams left deserve major props.  This looks like one of the toughest overall casts ever.

Agreed. These teams, Jody particularly, have been impressive. Casting seems to have done a stellar job for TAR 30. I think production will make the final leg reaaal tough.
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Post by: Marionete on October 22, 2017, 08:20:52 PM
is the final leg for sure  tomorrow or could they give them a day off and have it on Tues?
They had a long Pit Stop before the final leg last season (CMIIW), so a ~12 hour Pit Stop before the FINAL leg would be especially weird. I mean, they don't usually do such short Pit Stops anyway.
Also, final legs are usually day-time legs, so I would be really surprised to see them doing the finale tomorrow. Production needs to get in front as well.

I'm banking on Tuesday afternoon-evening.
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Post by: dangambler on October 22, 2017, 09:39:43 PM
is the final leg for sure  tomorrow or could they give them a day off and have it on Tues?
They had a long Pit Stop before the final leg last season (CMIIW), so a ~12 hour Pit Stop before the FINAL leg would be especially weird. I mean, they don't usually do such short Pit Stops anyway.
Also, final legs are usually day-time legs, so I would be really surprised to see them doing the finale tomorrow. Production needs to get in front as well.

I'm banking on Tuesday afternoon-evening.

why?
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Post by: aribb19 on October 22, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
If they leave today won't they have a break on the plane anyways since its a 13 hour flight and stay at a hotel once they get there or do they start racing right at the airport.
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Post by: Maanca on October 22, 2017, 10:32:50 PM
Final leg? Nah, as soon as they hit the ground in the final city, it's game on.
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Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 10:33:18 PM
They can sleep on the plane.... that should be well enough time to get rest for the most important leg on the show.
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Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 10:36:50 PM
Rachel gave Jody tips before they left. And Cody has watched the race before so they should be mentally prepared for the last puzzle  :conf:

This final may be the most competitive in a while. Each team has the guts and wits to win. It will be a battle to the finish line
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Post by: dangambler on October 22, 2017, 10:48:57 PM
Ok a few things... I haven’t seen these vids here, someonodh can embed them

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=770364319831952&id=100005751737729

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=770421363159581&id=100005751737729


 
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Post by: aribb19 on October 22, 2017, 10:52:07 PM
https://twitter.com/NewbieHOH/status/922302380766519297

Filming at the pit stop maybe stating soon or interviews?
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 10:59:41 PM
why would they film at the pit stop again?
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Post by: Maanca on October 22, 2017, 11:01:35 PM
Start of the next leg, ripping open their first clue. Sometimes they start in the same place, sometimes they move them somewhere else.

It has been about 12 hours almost now.
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 11:02:54 PM
Thanks. I didn't realize they started in the same place.

appears that Jody Crew were right again.
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 22, 2017, 11:03:22 PM
Where's the guy who missed them last night?? He needs to wake up
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Post by: aribb19 on October 22, 2017, 11:05:22 PM
What a random spot for a pit stop I don't see anything special about it.
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Post by: jboy224 on October 22, 2017, 11:05:30 PM
i rewatcehd s16 finale episode.

begining of the ep is phil giving detail about the area they just did leg 11 in (in this case hong kong) and then it shows teams departing frm the pitstop ripping open their next clue (likely to head to the airport for a plane ride to ____________)

time advantages carry over at the pitstop but it doesnt really matter since they all will meet up at the airport for 1 plane.

Then when the plane lands they begin the finale leg.

the twins on s16 were smart and asked to be moved to first class of the plane when the other 2 teams were sleeping so they got out first and a big lead.  :funny:

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Post by: aribb19 on October 22, 2017, 11:06:51 PM
i rewatcehd s16 finale episode.

begining of the ep is phil giving detail about the area they just did leg 11 in (in this case hong kong) and then it shows teams departing frm the pitstop ripping open their next clue (likely to head to the airport for a plane ride to ____________)

time advantages carry over at the pitstop but it doesnt really matter since they all will meet up at the airport for 1 plane.

Then when the plane lands they begin the finale leg.

the twins on s16 were smart and asked to be moved to first class of the plane when the other 2 teams were sleeping so they got out first and a big lead.  :funny:

How did they have enough money for that?  :funny: the place they're going to is expensive as hell lol
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Post by: Pinnacle94080 on October 22, 2017, 11:11:39 PM
i rewatcehd s16 finale episode.

begining of the ep is phil giving detail about the area they just did leg 11 in (in this case hong kong) and then it shows teams departing frm the pitstop ripping open their next clue (likely to head to the airport for a plane ride to ____________)

time advantages carry over at the pitstop but it doesnt really matter since they all will meet up at the airport for 1 plane.

Then when the plane lands they begin the finale leg.

the twins on s16 were smart and asked to be moved to first class of the plane when the other 2 teams were sleeping so they got out first and a big lead.  :funny:

How did they have enough money for that?  :funny: the place they're going to is expensive as hell lol
When u ask to be moved to 1st class while airborne, & they agree to move you, you don't have to pay extra.
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Post by: Pinnacle94080 on October 22, 2017, 11:31:08 PM


 :conf: big hand to all you detectives. Don't know how you all do it but it's fantastic.
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Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 11:37:57 PM
I only saw one team in that video -- Cody & Jessica.  Who was the other team, and where were they?  When did they appear in that video?
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Post by: geographyknower on October 22, 2017, 11:49:34 PM
I only saw one team in that video -- Cody & Jessica.  Who was the other team, and where were they?  When did they appear in that video?

You can see Indy drivers standing around at the end of the second video.
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Post by: north09 on October 22, 2017, 11:55:04 PM
Rachel gave Jody tips before they left. And Cody has watched the race before so they should be mentally prepared for the last puzzle  :conf:

This final may be the most competitive in a while. Each team has the guts and wits to win. It will be a battle to the finish line

Just a little caution guys, we know nothing about these teams except a few snapshots we get of the legs as they progress. No one knows for sure how "strong" these three teams are, considering at least two have been known to have been at the back of the pack at least once (Jody was running behind in Prague and Bahrain, and the Debaters were NEL'd in Thailand). I'm hoping for the best for all three of them, but let's not get ahead of ourselves before we actually see these episodes air haha!
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Post by: Joberio on October 22, 2017, 11:56:50 PM
I only saw one team in that video -- Cody & Jessica.  Who was the other team, and where were they?  When did they appear in that video?

You can see Indy drivers standing around at the end of the second video.
Yep.  Saw them.  Totally forgot there was a second video.  But thanks!:)
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 23, 2017, 12:00:16 AM
Guys search for sighting at HK airport, skiers just departed for Leg 12
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Post by: Zack. on October 23, 2017, 12:00:31 AM
Given that we're going to San Francisco and that this season's gimmick in casting was teams who were together all the time or summat, why do I think we're getting a ~*Switchback*~ to the "how well do you know your partner" task?
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Post by: Joberio on October 23, 2017, 12:05:41 AM
Guys search for sighting at HK airport, skiers just departed for Leg 12
Were they the first out?
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 23, 2017, 12:05:49 AM
Guys search for sighting at HK airport, skiers just departed for Leg 12
Does that mean they got first in the last leg?
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 23, 2017, 12:06:39 AM
Guys search for sighting at HK airport, skiers just departed for Leg 12
Were they the first out?
Not yet known. Vic mentioned he saw Skiers only and the mat was removed after Skiers ripped off the clue
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Post by: jodystan23 on October 23, 2017, 12:07:16 AM
That's weird. Did the skiers come in last then??
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Post by: Joberio on October 23, 2017, 12:08:12 AM
That's weird. Did the skiers come in last then??
Maybe.  Either that, or they just needed to remove the mat for a while before the next team sets off.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 23, 2017, 12:16:19 AM
Since they are all going to be on the same flight, who was first and leaves earliest for the airport probably isn't going to make much difference. Except for the prize at the end of the last leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 12:20:09 AM
Rachel gave Jody tips before they left. And Cody has watched the race before so they should be mentally prepared for the last puzzle  :conf:

This final may be the most competitive in a while. Each team has the guts and wits to win. It will be a battle to the finish line

Just a little caution guys, we know nothing about these teams except a few snapshots we get of the legs as they progress. No one knows for sure how "strong" these three teams are, considering at least two have been known to have been at the back of the pack at least once (Jody was running behind in Prague and Bahrain, and the Debaters were NEL'd in Thailand). I'm hoping for the best for all three of them, but let's not get ahead of ourselves before we actually see these episodes air haha!

Lol Jody got 4th after getting u turned in Bahrain.. hardly back of pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 23, 2017, 12:21:43 AM
Since the Pit Start mat was removed, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that the skiiers were 3rd.

No matter which of Jody or Debaters won the leg would be interesting; if Jody wins that's a plus for the fans, and if the Debaters won that's a new addition to the Brooke & Robbie/Jet & Cord club of teams getting NELed with Speed Bumps then winning the leg :lol:

Lol Jody got 4th after getting u turned in Bahrain.. hardly back of pack.

But wouldn't bottom 2 constitute back of the pack in an F5 scenario? =P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 12:29:29 AM
Since the Pit Start mat was removed, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that the skiiers were 3rd.

No matter which of Jody or Debaters won the leg would be interesting; if Jody wins that's a plus for the fans, and if the Debaters won that's a new addition to the Brooke & Robbie/Jet & Cord club of teams getting NELed with Speed Bumps then winning the leg :lol:

Lol Jody got 4th after getting u turned in Bahrain.. hardly back of pack.

But wouldn't bottom 2 constitute back of the pack in an F5 scenario? =P

To the contrary they were running high enough to be able rob do u turn and still beat two teams
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 23, 2017, 12:30:25 AM
Rachel gave Jody tips before they left. And Cody has watched the race before so they should be mentally prepared for the last puzzle  :conf:

This final may be the most competitive in a while. Each team has the guts and wits to win. It will be a battle to the finish line

Just a little caution guys, we know nothing about these teams except a few snapshots we get of the legs as they progress. No one knows for sure how "strong" these three teams are, considering at least two have been known to have been at the back of the pack at least once (Jody was running behind in Prague and Bahrain, and the Debaters were NEL'd in Thailand). I'm hoping for the best for all three of them, but let's not get ahead of ourselves before we actually see these episodes air haha!

Lol Jody got 4th after getting u turned in Bahrain.. hardly back of pack.
Weren't they U-Turned in Zimbabwe, not Bahrain?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 12:31:16 AM
Since the Pit Start mat was removed, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that the skiiers were 3rd.

No matter which of Jody or Debaters won the leg would be interesting; if Jody wins that's a plus for the fans, and if the Debaters won that's a new addition to the Brooke & Robbie/Jet & Cord club of teams getting NELed with Speed Bumps then winning the leg :lol:

Lol Jody got 4th after getting u turned in Bahrain.. hardly back of pack.

But wouldn't bottom 2 constitute back of the pack in an F5 scenario? =P

Woman who filmed them unlocking the briefcase said Jess a and Cody were first team she saw.. and skiers were seen arriving with Indy so I’d guess Jody won the leg. Debaters May have flown through and somehow got 2nd
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 12:32:11 AM
Rachel gave Jody tips before they left. And Cody has watched the race before so they should be mentally prepared for the last puzzle  :conf:

This final may be the most competitive in a while. Each team has the guts and wits to win. It will be a battle to the finish line

Just a little caution guys, we know nothing about these teams except a few snapshots we get of the legs as they progress. No one knows for sure how "strong" these three teams are, considering at least two have been known to have been at the back of the pack at least once (Jody was running behind in Prague and Bahrain, and the Debaters were NEL'd in Thailand). I'm hoping for the best for all three of them, but let's not get ahead of ourselves before we actually see these episodes air haha!

Lol Jody got 4th after getting u turned in Bahrain.. hardly back of pack.
Weren't they U-Turned in Zimbabwe, not Bahrain?
Yep my mistake on city
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 12:34:31 AM
Just a little caution guys, we know nothing about these teams except a few snapshots we get of the legs as they progress. No one knows for sure how "strong" these three teams are, considering at least two have been known to have been at the back of the pack at least once (Jody was running behind in Prague and Bahrain, and the Debaters were NEL'd in Thailand). I'm hoping for the best for all three of them, but let's not get ahead of ourselves before we actually see these episodes air haha!
This!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 12:39:09 AM
Guys search for sighting at HK airport, skiers just departed for Leg 12

Didn’t you hear any of whatbthey said about the clue?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 23, 2017, 12:40:49 AM
Since the Pit Start mat was removed, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that the skiiers were 3rd.

No matter which of Jody or Debaters won the leg would be interesting; if Jody wins that's a plus for the fans, and if the Debaters won that's a new addition to the Brooke & Robbie/Jet & Cord club of teams getting NELed with Speed Bumps then winning the leg :lol:

Lol Jody got 4th after getting u turned in Bahrain.. hardly back of pack.

But wouldn't bottom 2 constitute back of the pack in an F5 scenario? =P

Woman who filmed them unlocking the briefcase said Jess a and Cody were first team she saw.. and skiers were seen arriving with Indy so I’d guess Jody won the leg. Debaters May have flown through and somehow got 2nd

This pic also shows debaters with the indy races.
https://twitter.com/shinigamishinz0/status/922185223550504961
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 23, 2017, 12:43:37 AM
I would not think that removing the pit start mat indicates anything. If they are doing the 'classical' start based on a fixed interval from the teams' arrival time at the pit stop, then they would know exactly when each team would be released to start the leg. They might move the mat to get it out of the way of people while waiting for the next team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 23, 2017, 12:44:14 AM
that seems like a lot of work. why not just leave the mat there???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 23, 2017, 12:47:37 AM
that seems like a lot of work. why not just leave the mat there???

It seems like a lot of work to roll up and unroll a mat? The answer is literally in the post: They might move the mat to get it out of the way of people while waiting for the next team. It's a street with heavy foot traffic during the day.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on October 23, 2017, 12:50:50 AM
Since from the beginning the producer knows that there's a chance that Jody might be in the finale. I don't think the finale will be in downtown area like in TAR29, since it may attract fans to help them or haters to stumble them.

Therefore, I think that the finale will be in remote/secluded areas or somewhere that not many people can spot the teams like back in TAR20 or TAR24 finale took place in the night and they visited Las Vegas desert in the beginning. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 23, 2017, 12:54:19 AM
The taxi ride from the pitstart to airport takes at least 40 minutes
They get in taxi not until 12:45, that enables them to reach the airport not earlier than 13:15, which is very late (1 hour ahead) for international departure
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 23, 2017, 12:59:22 AM
that seems like a lot of work. why not just leave the mat there???

It seems like a lot of work to roll up and unroll a mat? The answer is literally in the post: They might move the mat to get it out of the way of people while waiting for the next team. It's a street with heavy foot traffic during the day.
But they left it there the whole time for the pitstop??? I doubt they would keep rolling it.

Skiers were probably the last team to leave in my opinion......
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Vicdemort on October 23, 2017, 01:01:02 AM
They didn't seem to be in a hurry at all. I think they will be bunched anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 23, 2017, 01:03:47 AM
that seems like a lot of work. why not just leave the mat there???

It seems like a lot of work to roll up and unroll a mat? The answer is literally in the post: They might move the mat to get it out of the way of people while waiting for the next team. It's a street with heavy foot traffic during the day.
But they left it there the whole time for the pitstop??? I doubt they would keep rolling it.

Skiers were probably the last team to leave in my opinion......

Why would they roll up the mat during a pit stop and risk teams missing it because they were unable to spot the mat? It's the most crucial part of the race. Today's filming on the mat is for continuity. I have no speculation of the order. I'm just not dismissing possibilities.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Fanfav21 on October 23, 2017, 01:10:23 AM
that seems like a lot of work. why not just leave the mat there???

It seems like a lot of work to roll up and unroll a mat? The answer is literally in the post: They might move the mat to get it out of the way of people while waiting for the next team. It's a street with heavy foot traffic during the day.
But they left it there the whole time for the pitstop??? I doubt they would keep rolling it.

Skiers were probably the last team to leave in my opinion......


OMG! what if it down to 2 teams...this lady only saw 2 Jody and Skiers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 01:10:44 AM
https://twitter.com/march_e8/status/922332126250393600

Jody and Skiers at mat

She said Jody filmed first...
Also Jess and one of the skiers are in flip flops so they’re in no hurry obviously
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 01:26:43 AM
Based on the timing of when they were at the mat, and the casualness of Jess and one of the skiers... they’re in no hurry to catch a flight... only possible flights that make sense are:

Ny at 4:10, LA 435, Alaska 6:10,la 6:10, Boston 615, ny 645,

My guess would be LA at 435 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 23, 2017, 01:30:17 AM
Based on the timing of when they were at the mat, and the casualness of Jess and one orb the skiers... they’re in no hurry to catch a flight... only possible flights that make sense are:

Ny at 4:10, LA 435, Alaska 6:10,la 6:10, Boston 615, ny 645,

My guess would be LA at 435 🤷🏻‍♂️

What happened to confirmation of going to SF? There were so many posts of people believing it's going to be SF.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 01:32:17 AM
Based on the timing of when they were at the mat, and the casualness of Jess and one orb the skiers... they’re in no hurry to catch a flight... only possible flights that make sense are:

Ny at 4:10, LA 435, Alaska 6:10,la 6:10, Boston 615, ny 645,

My guess would be LA at 435 🤷🏻‍♂️

What happened to confirmation of going to SF? There were so many posts of people believing it's going to be SF.

could still be going to sf through la?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 23, 2017, 01:43:31 AM
It could be possible for production to instruct teams to report to the mat between a short designated time span and edit in positional order, if necessary, for the show.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 23, 2017, 01:51:52 AM
It could be possible for production to instruct teams to report to the mat between a short designated time span and edit in positional order, if necessary, for the show.

Yeah, I don't see why they would need to film teams on the mat in order today. They can film however is most convenient and edit the footage in the right sequence.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Pinnacle94080 on October 23, 2017, 02:02:33 AM
Hope they still come through SF so I can get a chance to see them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 02:38:47 AM
Since from the beginning the producer knows that there's a chance that Jody might be in the finale. I don't think the finale will be in downtown area like in TAR29, since it may attract fans to help them or haters to stumble them.

Therefore, I think that the finale will be in remote/secluded areas or somewhere that not many people can spot the teams like back   or TAR24 finale took place in the night and they visited Las Vegas desert in the beginning? :)

Also, the Leg doesn't have to take place within city limits of course. They could travel to other cities in the area.
Would've been interesting to see what kind of adjustments would've been made if the Final Leg took place a few weeks ago when the tragic wildfires were at their worst.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on October 23, 2017, 02:51:00 AM
Since from the beginning the producer knows that there's a chance that Jody might be in the finale. I don't think the finale will be in downtown area like in TAR29, since it may attract fans to help them or haters to stumble them.

Therefore, I think that the finale will be in remote/secluded areas or somewhere that not many people can spot the teams like back   or TAR24 finale took place in the night and they visited Las Vegas desert in the beginning? :)

Therefore, I think that the finale will be in remote/secluded areas or somewhere that not many people can spot the teams like back in TAR20 or TAR24 finale took place in the night and they visited Las Vegas desert in the beginning. :)

Also, the Leg doesn't have to take place within city limits of course. They could travel to other cities in the area.
Would've been interesting to see what kind of adjustments would've been made if the Final Leg took place a few weeks ago when the tragic wildfires were at their worst.

I had typos in my first post :lol:

I'm still hoping for either Hawaii, SF, or Seattle finale. Please don't ruin this great route with another LA finale... :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 03:09:44 AM
Maybe this would be better in the "TAR 30 Location wishlists and Unsupported speculation" thread, but if they do go to LA, your idea of secluded/remote locations outside of the city would fit very well. I'd love to see them visit the aircraft boneyard in Mojave. Would be a stunning Final Leg location, especially for a memory task of some sort.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ovalorange on October 23, 2017, 05:03:29 AM
All I hope is that production learned from last season's spoilers what not to do this time around. Particularly as there's a lot more fans tracking it this time around
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 23, 2017, 05:17:45 AM
All I hope is that production learned from last season's spoilers what not to do this time around. Particularly as there's a lot more fans tracking it this time around
Teams do wear The amazing race fanny pack yesterday in Hong Kong
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 23, 2017, 05:25:20 AM
They could be connecting?

I agree with this- I don’t think it needs to be direct if it’s prebooked (could also provide extra buffer for Phil, if he’s flying direct)

Prebooked tickets could also explain why some racers are in flip flops?

Interested to see where they go/when they get there
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NumfarPTB on October 23, 2017, 05:42:02 AM
Where-ever is the final city, the teams that were eliminated 11th to 6th, are also being flown from the place where they were all sequestered, with them arriving closer to Phil's time.

As we don't have the ES feature anymore, they don't have camera people with them, but will still have producers with them, wonder if there might have been any sightings through that route.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 23, 2017, 05:56:22 AM
I'm so happy that Jody won the leg yesterday wooot 1st.

If the May was picked up after the skiers opened their clue that means the order is jody debaters skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2017, 06:36:53 AM
Guys Info is NOT the point. Right or Wrong.

The point is that from day one here The FIRST POST IN SPOILERS SAYS NO FUTURE INFO!!

How would you feel if a crazy loon targeted TAR?  Because they knew days ahead where and when they would be?

It is highly dangerous and against our rules, so DO NOT DO IT AGAIN.


An hour maybe, days no.

And THAT is a MODERATOR call.

I have no control over others, if they want to be irresponsible I cannot help it. But here you do it again, and that's it.


PLEASE READ POST #1 CLOSELY IF YOU HAVE NOT  ALREADY.

It is potentially DANGEROUS to tell today's world where teams will be ahead of time..

It is NOT allowed here at RFF and I hope other thoughtful  posters will consider that as well.

You can trust that RFF has things well in hand, and you will be welcome to join us at the right time for more fun.

RULES:

No location info to be revealed before teams are on the way. (I'll let you know when!)

NO spoiling of the Final 3 Finish order.

Respect each other, love the game, and have a super fun time!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TSPKM on October 23, 2017, 07:06:27 AM
I'm so happy that Jody won the leg yesterday wooot 1st.

If the May was picked up after the skiers opened their clue that means the order is jody debaters skiers

Smh. And how do you know Jody best the debaters? Good god 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 23, 2017, 08:21:47 AM
So we do not have sightings at the Hong Kong airport? That means we have no idea where are they connecting to sf (assuming that is the final destination), right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 23, 2017, 08:31:36 AM
I'm so happy that Jody won the leg yesterday wooot 1st.

If the May was picked up after the skiers opened their clue that means the order is jody debaters skiers

Smh. And how do you know Jody best the debaters? Good god

LOL because the debaters were seen at the bar task with the Indy guys way after the fact Jody already finished that. Smh they won first be happy for them. Plus the girl who took the pic of them at the pit stop today said they were first to rip open their clue
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 23, 2017, 08:51:50 AM
How long does a final leg last on average ? I know its much elaborate than any of the previous legs.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 23, 2017, 08:54:38 AM
I'm so happy that Jody won the leg yesterday wooot 1st.

If the May was picked up after the skiers opened their clue that means the order is jody debaters skiers

Smh. And how do you know Jody best the debaters? Good god

LOL because the debaters were seen at the bar task with the Indy guys way after the fact Jody already finished that. Smh they won first be happy for them. Plus the girl who took the pic of them at the pit stop today said they were first to rip open their clue

Hm, this sounds similar to the logic the Jody fans used when they insisted that Lifeguards and Skiers were the last two teams to reach the Harare pit stop, which proved to be untrue.

They were the first to rip open their clue but neither teams spotted on the mat were in a rush, right? They may not even have been on the mat in order. Teams will likely be starting evenly on the flight out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 23, 2017, 08:59:34 AM
can both sides just stop fighting its finale already both teams made it anyway :lol: =P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 23, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
can both sides just stop fighting its finale already both teams made it anyway :lol: =P

agreed.. Other than winning a vacation prize or like 5k winning that leg really doesn't mean much anyway.

The goal was to not get last.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 23, 2017, 09:05:44 AM
Where-ever is the final city, the teams that were eliminated 11th to 6th, are also being flown from the place where they were all sequestered, with them arriving closer to Phil's time.

As we don't have the ES feature anymore, they don't have camera people with them, but will still have producers with them, wonder if there might have been any sightings through that route.

Right and Shawn Marion is a recognizable face that can help us find them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 23, 2017, 09:08:04 AM
Have there been any pictures of the Debaters this morning at all?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 23, 2017, 09:11:25 AM
can both sides just stop fighting its finale already both teams made it anyway :lol: =P

agreed.. Other than winning a vacation prize or like 5k winning that leg really doesn't mean much anyway.

The goal was to not get last.

from what I've read the vacation prizes are basically worthless because it costs more in taxes than what you could pay for the trip out of pocket booking yourself ... I wonder/hope they can exchange for cash equivalent
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Fanfav21 on October 23, 2017, 09:28:36 AM
Have there been any pictures of the Debaters this morning at all?


I am hoping they also couldn't finish the leg and there is only 2 teams in the final!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Cpt.Carnage on October 23, 2017, 09:29:28 AM
Have there been any pictures of the Debaters this morning at all?


I am hoping they also couldn't finish the leg and there is only 2 teams in the final!
I really doubt that, but if that were the case then all 4 teams might be in the final...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 23, 2017, 09:32:21 AM
Have there been any pictures of the Debaters this morning at all?


I am hoping they also couldn't finish the leg and there is only 2 teams in the final!

That would be awful. I like seeing 3 teams battle for the finish. More excitment, better show.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 23, 2017, 10:00:21 AM
right.. You get a penalty for not finishing ( i think it's like 4 hours) so if both teams couldn't finish the task than the first one to get the pitstop would move on..

No way would 2 teams ever be eliminated
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on October 23, 2017, 10:00:32 AM
Have there been any pictures of the Debaters this morning at all?


I am hoping they also couldn't finish the leg and there is only 2 teams in the final!

LOL... no way  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2017, 10:15:27 AM
Interestingly for all the insults you appear to be wrong. The tweeter says:

only saw Jody, then Skiers, then MAT removed. That clearly means Debaters were in first.

But the flight is an equalizer...so  DOES NOT MATTER!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 10:19:24 AM
 :bunny

]

I am hoping they also couldn't finish the leg and there is only 2 teams in the final!
That's never going to happen.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 23, 2017, 10:36:42 AM
Where-ever is the final city, the teams that were eliminated 11th to 6th, are also being flown from the place where they were all sequestered, with them arriving closer to Phil's time.

As we don't have the ES feature anymore, they don't have camera people with them, but will still have producers with them, wonder if there might have been any sightings through that route.

Right and Shawn Marion is a recognizable face that can help us find them.

I don't think we have ever seen the teams traveling from the sequester site to the final city. Without camera crews, they just don't stand out much. Still, it can happen so it's worth going back and looking for the eliminated teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sls17 on October 23, 2017, 10:41:48 AM
so, since rules say no spoiling the final 3 placements, will we not get any info regarding possible winners?  been following this site for the past few weeks, so thank you for all you guys posting!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 23, 2017, 10:43:53 AM
so, since rules say no spoiling the final 3 placements, will we not get any info regarding possible winners?  been following this site for the past few weeks, so thank you for all you guys posting!!!

We will no doubt have info and pictures from the leg, but not the final team placements.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 23, 2017, 10:51:36 AM
Fanny packs spotted on the ground in Portland, ME.
Would they have had enough time to fly from Hong Kong to Maine?

Actually Portland Jetport (the airport in Portland, ME) does not have direct flights from West Coast.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 23, 2017, 10:53:58 AM
Fanny packs spotted on the ground in Portland, ME.
Would they have had enough time to fly from Hong Kong to Maine?

Actually Portland Jetport (the airport in Portland, ME) does not have direct flights from West Coast.

Local Race
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 23, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
so we think Order of elimination

11) Ring Girls
10) Yoga Moms
9) NBA/Eaters
8.) NBA/Eaters
7) Violinists
6) Twins
5) Lifeguards
4) Racers

Final 3:  Debaters, Jody, Ski Girls  (Final leg today?)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 23, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
Patience is a virtue  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 23, 2017, 11:20:28 AM
so we think Order of elimination

11) Ring Girls
10) Yoga Moms
9) NBA/Eaters
8.) NBA/Eaters
7) Violinists
6) Twins
5) Lifeguards
4) Racers

Final 3:  Debaters, Jody, Ski Girls  (Final leg today?)


Seems that way
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 23, 2017, 11:21:01 AM
I'm just waiting to see which teams have the sense to ditch their bags for the last leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NumfarPTB on October 23, 2017, 11:24:18 AM
so, since rules say no spoiling the final 3 placements, will we not get any info regarding possible winners?  been following this site for the past few weeks, so thank you for all you guys posting!!!

Its depends how much info we might get from live sightings. We never revealed the final placements for TAR29 as it was being filmed (not even during as the season finally aired months later), but there was a lot of information that a careful reader could take some educated conclusions.  On that matter, the amount of information we got from TAR29 finale was also unusually more than we got from some of the previous seasons. As a comparison, during TAR28 finale, I believe we lost the teams shortly before the final challenge.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 23, 2017, 11:29:23 AM
TAR29 finale was easy. All urban, and they spent the last 1/3 of it around Wrigley Field, which has webcams pointed at it.

TAR28 finale's latter half was out in the rural southern California valleys.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Michi on October 23, 2017, 12:21:45 PM
Have they come to the filming of the last leg already? The weeks sure have gone fast.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 23, 2017, 12:26:16 PM
Have they come to the filming of the last leg already? The weeks sure have gone fast.
They should be arriving in the final city in the next few hours. Today will be day 23 of racing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2017, 12:34:09 PM
so, since rules say no spoiling the final 3 placements, will we not get any info regarding possible winners?  been following this site for the past few weeks, so thank you for all you guys posting!!!

welcome! That's right. If possible we protect the final 3 finish order. Guess it is really up to filming.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2017, 12:43:26 PM
Asking everyone to remember...as stated in multiple places:

THERE IS TO BE NO DISCUSSION OF FINAL CITY UNTIL FIRST SIGHTINGS.

NONE.

THIS IS A  NON NEGOTIABLE RFF RULE. SO break it at your own risk.

No city named, no flight arrivals, nothing to announce to the world where they are UNTIL they are seen on the ground and racing.

At that point like all legs we trust in WRP's security.

So PLEASE STOP IT. I edited some posts but will be deleting posts as well. This IS a BANNABLE OFFENSE.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 23, 2017, 12:48:50 PM
Quote
But the flight is an equalizer...so  DOES NOT MATTER!
We hope it's an equalizer; I'd be disappointed if the finale was linear.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 23, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
Do you have to carry there bag on the final leg or just there fanny pack with there passports and clues?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 23, 2017, 12:59:26 PM
Do you have to carry there bag on the final leg or just there fanny pack with there passports and clues?

You don't have to have your bag with you. You just have to have the necessary items for travel and racing with you. Let's see if any of the Final 3 teams ditch their baggage.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 23, 2017, 01:20:00 PM
Is there a difference between publicly announcing when and where the starting line will take place?
Is there a difference between talking about the 11 teams flying to Iceland before they have landed?

I’m just reading your message and seriously wondering. I’m not meaning to be rude.

If the reason why it’s different is because it is the final leg and we don’t want to know the exact placement of the final 3 teams (aka don’t want fans documenting the final leg and spoiling it) . Can’t we just post that instead and say we want everyone to tune in and watch the show because it’s about to be cancelled if there aren’t enough viewers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 23, 2017, 01:33:00 PM
Is there a difference between publicly announcing when and where the starting line will take place?
Is there a difference between talking about the 11 teams flying to Iceland before they have landed?

I'm sure someone can give a more definitive answer, but allow me to put in my two cents.

1) This season's starting line was publicly announced by CBS, so there was no question about anybody spoiling the start.  RFF has, in fact, discovered some of the previous starting lines (through some excellent detective work) but does not publicly disclose this information until the racers have started racing (or, in at least one case, slightly before, when the racers are at the starting line).

2) This information was also disclosed through multiple sources this season, mostly because of the public start.  Many people had a chance to learn the first destination from the racers themselves. I believe RFF mostly wants to protect the finish line and the final US destination, but again usually only discloses destinations when the racers are safely on their way.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 23, 2017, 02:20:42 PM
Is there a difference between publicly announcing when and where the starting line will take place?
Is there a difference between talking about the 11 teams flying to Iceland before they have landed?

I'm sure someone can give a more definitive answer, but allow me to put in my two cents.

1) This season's starting line was publicly announced by CBS, so there was no question about anybody spoiling the start.  RFF has, in fact, discovered some of the previous starting lines (through some excellent detective work) but does not publicly disclose this information until the racers have started racing (or, in at least one case, slightly before, when the racers are at the starting line).

2) This information was also disclosed through multiple sources this season, mostly because of the public start.  Many people had a chance to learn the first destination from the racers themselves. I believe RFF mostly wants to protect the finish line and the final US destination, but again usually only discloses destinations when the racers are safely on their way.

Ok cause that’s my question.. if they are afraid of some cuckoo crazy going to the finish line city , wouldn’t they be even more afraid to publicly announce where the starting line is being held and give plenty of advanced notice.

Or our members that live in cities that host legs of the race that know they are going to be there and head to the locations to take pictures. How is it any different?

Sorry I was just wondering what makes the final destination so special and secret when just the other day there were a bunch of people in Hong Kong waiting at the airport
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 23, 2017, 02:24:55 PM

Ok cause that’s my question.. if they are afraid of some cuckoo crazy going to the finish line city , wouldn’t they be even more afraid to publicly announce where the starting line is being held and give plenty of advanced notice.

Or our members that live in cities that host legs of the race that know they are going to be there and head to the locations to take pictures. How is it any different?

Sorry I was just wondering what makes the final destination so special and secret when just the other day there were a bunch of people in Hong Kong waiting at the airport

The starting line was revealed by CBS and they encouraged people to go. The security was set up by them. 

All legs are protected. If you read the live sightings post 1- it states that. This board does not allow posting of any future locations until the teams are there.    People find about about future locations, but you won't find it posted here until the team are on the ground and running.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2017, 02:27:44 PM
We don't control others, just us. And maybe our safety concerns are archaic given open starts etc. But until/unless I hear differently, that's the way it goes!

But stay tuned, hoping to have a lovely time ahead!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NumfarPTB on October 23, 2017, 02:47:14 PM
Quote
But the flight is an equalizer...so  DOES NOT MATTER!
We hope it's an equalizer; I'd be disappointed if the finale was linear.

It's been ages, since the last time we had final 3 / 4 teams split apart by them booking different flights for the final city, I guess that's a possibility production has worked really hard to avoid. They do prefer to have entire cast at the finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 23, 2017, 02:55:14 PM
What I meant by "linear" was a poorly-designed leg where the finishing order duplicates the exit order at the final airport; in other words, the first team to get off the plane wins the race. A leg that's constructed well allows back-and-forth movement among the teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 03:19:40 PM
What I meant by "linear" was a poorly-designed leg where the finishing order duplicates the exit order at the final airport; in other words, the first team to get off the plane wins the race. A leg that's constructed well allows back-and-forth movement among the teams.

Yeah, any task that involves teams to get in a line for something shouldn't be on a Final Leg, imo. A Leg of course can be linear and poorly designed without such a task. But first come, first served tasks certainly don't help.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 23, 2017, 03:35:58 PM
Shouldn't there be sightings by now?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 23, 2017, 03:48:03 PM
I think it might be helpful if Peach or some other mod would post whether RFF has information that it is withholding or not. Then we would have some idea what to expect to see posted.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 23, 2017, 03:54:18 PM
I don't think we can know what to expect until the leg is done. It's a rapidly changing situation and we don't know how public the filming is going to be. Sometimes (like TAR 29) social media is crazy with sightings, other times they go to private locations and we don't find out much.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 23, 2017, 03:55:12 PM
seems weird that they weren't spotted at an airport
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 03:57:11 PM
Like, should we be expecting to see sightings today or tomorrow? Or is that also dangerous to say.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 23, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
Maybe they were just filming their clues and then going back to sequester? The skiers hung out for a little bit and then Jessica was wearing flip-flops. I could be wrong.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 04:10:45 PM
^That's a good point. Especially with no sightings at the airport. Maybe they haven't even left Hong Kong yet.  :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 23, 2017, 04:13:45 PM
^That's a good point. Especially with no sightings at the airport. Maybe they haven't even left Hong Kong yet.  :D
And then today, Phil and production maybe went to the finish line city
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 23, 2017, 04:14:14 PM
Does anybody think the would really "fake" a pit-start? I certainly don't.

Question: Did any of the people that saw them ripping envelopes hear what the route info said?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 23, 2017, 04:16:18 PM
Do we know if they actually ripped the clues open?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 23, 2017, 04:20:30 PM
Does anybody think the would really "fake" a pit-start? I certainly don't.

Question: Did any of the people that saw them ripping envelopes hear what the route info said?
The only reason why I think that is because I found it weird that the skiers would hang out for a little bit before leaving. I have no idea.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 23, 2017, 04:21:22 PM
Do we know if they actually ripped the clues open?

I don't know that that happened. I have yet to see confirmation of it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 23, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
Guys search for sighting at HK airport, skiers just departed for Leg 12
Were they the first out?
Not yet known. Vic mentioned he saw Skiers only and the mat was removed after Skiers ripped off the clue
Vicdemort may be able to tell us whether he saw them rip the clue.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 04:36:02 PM
Does anybody think the would really "fake" a pit-start? I certainly don't.

Question: Did any of the people that saw them ripping envelopes hear what the route info said?
Well, it's not like it has any effect on the competition and Race itself if they "faked" it. Just something they need to do for the episode itself to get it out of the way, especially if they have the whole day in HK before leaving.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 23, 2017, 05:28:12 PM
Jessica had her flip-flops on, we didn't see one team, and the skiers hung around. For all we know, they were filming interviews and would be released later. And what better way for TPTB to throw a few foilers out there? Don't forget, they know we're watching.  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 23, 2017, 05:31:01 PM
Patience is a virtue  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 23, 2017, 05:35:37 PM
The only night finale they've ever done was Vegas in season 24, pretty sure.

But as Hong Kong was just a night leg, they probably won't do 2 in a row.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 05:38:56 PM
Of course, the TAR21 finale went into the evening because of the Road Block. hehe
And the Finish Line was indoors too.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 23, 2017, 06:25:23 PM
Jessica had her flip-flops on, we didn't see one team, and the skiers hung around. For all we know, they were filming interviews and would be released later. And what better way for TPTB to throw a few foilers out there? Don't forget, they know we're watching.  :funny:

One of the skiers also had on flipflops.  I thought the skiers had to wait a few minutes longer before they could leave after #Jody, sometimes they do that right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 23, 2017, 06:46:44 PM
Jessica had her flip-flops on, we didn't see one team, and the skiers hung around. For all we know, they were filming interviews and would be released later. And what better way for TPTB to throw a few foilers out there? Don't forget, they know we're watching.  :funny:

One of the skiers also had on flipflops.  I thought the skiers had to wait a few minutes longer before they could leave after #Jody, sometimes they do that right?

Unless I'm mistaken, usually they rip their clue envelopes at the time specified for the start of their leg. There's some speculation that the start of this leg was staged around 12-12:30 Hong Kong time.  If so we don't know what the true intervals might be.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 23, 2017, 06:51:07 PM
I've read bits and pieces of the raw threads (very little help for me) and the summaries, and looking at it with fresh eyes since I hadn't been involved this season, I would say no airport in the US is safe from being the final destination city airport at this point. TPTB could even do a fake out and have teams fly to the final city via Beijing from Hong Kong and that would open up even more direct flights. Anything is possible.
Only thing I'll suggest is that on paper, areas with recent natural events such as hurricanes and fires are probably less likely, but who knows? I certainly don't.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sudilly on October 23, 2017, 07:22:40 PM
Phil tweeted a picture of himself with a camel...there is a camel safari in Vegas.  It's at camelsafari.com
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: supermom on October 23, 2017, 07:47:32 PM
The Camel Safari is not in Vegas, it is in Mesquite which is a super dumpy city outside of Vegas and also was home to Stephen Paddock which I doubt they would want to showcase where that psycho lived.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 23, 2017, 07:52:10 PM
With regards to the Pit Start of teams hanging out - I would like to bring up the possibility that it's likely just for formalities. We actually haven't seen all three teams depart the Pit Start on the Finale (with all departure times) on the show since TAR26.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 23, 2017, 08:11:15 PM
With regards to the Pit Start of teams hanging out - I would like to bring up the possibility that it's likely just for formalities. We actually haven't seen all three teams depart the Pit Start on the Finale (with all departure times) on the show since TAR26.
We have departure scenes for all three teams in TAR27
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 23, 2017, 08:15:02 PM
I've read bits and pieces of the raw threads (very little help for me) and the summaries, and looking at it with fresh eyes since I hadn't been involved this season, I would say no airport in the US is safe from being the final destination city airport at this point. TPTB could even do a fake out and have teams fly to the final city via Beijing from Hong Kong and that would open up even more direct flights. Anything is possible.
Only thing I'll suggest is that on paper, areas with recent natural events such as hurricanes and fires are probably less likely, but who knows? I certainly don't.

It's certainly possible that TAR may have originally planned a Finish Line in one location and changed it last minute. I have no idea if he Jody fans detective skills are recent or not, but things could have changed since.

Should we be expecting to see sightings today or tomorrow? Or is that also dangerous to say here on RFF?


Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on October 23, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 23, 2017, 08:17:21 PM
I would be really surprised if it was a night finale
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 23, 2017, 08:19:22 PM
I would be really surprised if it was a night finale

Now here's hoping it's better than the last night finale (24)  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Pinnacle94080 on October 23, 2017, 08:25:32 PM
From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 23, 2017, 08:40:00 PM
From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Was wondering same thing when the one pic shows Indy and Jody together staring at the monitor like they are trying to figure something out. It’s a pic in sightings but I don’t know how to copy it here

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Vicdemort on October 23, 2017, 08:41:39 PM
From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.

The photo booth is usually not there, it was set up for the task. The monitor is a computer screen. The photographer transferred the digital photo to the computer for editing/printing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 23, 2017, 08:43:16 PM
According to smily's expression on the left, it must be something funny :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Vicdemort on October 23, 2017, 08:43:47 PM
From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Was wondering same thing when the one pic shows Indy and Jody together staring at the monitor like they are trying to figure something out. It’s a pic in sightings but I don’t know how to copy it here



Indy have taken their photos (as they were first to arrive) and they were editing/printing their photo when Jody arrived. Jody were just peeking over Indy's photo lol.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on October 23, 2017, 08:54:01 PM
From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Was wondering same thing when the one pic shows Indy and Jody together staring at the monitor like they are trying to figure something out. It’s a pic in sightings but I don’t know how to copy it here



Indy have taken their photos (as they were first to arrive) and they were editing/printing their photo when Jody arrived. Jody were just peeking over Indy's photo lol.

Hey Vic, did you somehow manage to see what kind of photo they should take? Was it like the one attached on the booth?

(https://i.imgur.com/NNt5utO.png)

I'm just thinking if it's a selfie or if there's a designated photographer that they should search or they should ask locals to take their photo. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Vicdemort on October 23, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Was wondering same thing when the one pic shows Indy and Jody together staring at the monitor like they are trying to figure something out. It’s a pic in sightings but I don’t know how to copy it here



Indy have taken their photos (as they were first to arrive) and they were editing/printing their photo when Jody arrived. Jody were just peeking over Indy's photo lol.

Hey Vic, did you somehow manage to see what kind of photo they should take? Was it like the one attached on the booth?

(https://i.imgur.com/NNt5utO.png)

I'm just thinking if it's a selfie or if there's a designated photographer that they should search or they should ask locals to take their photo. :)

Yes, it is just a usual photo of the Victoria Harbour. The designated photographer did all the job. Teams just need to pose and get their photos/clues.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Malvear867 on October 23, 2017, 09:35:18 PM
Do you have video? Vicdemort

From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Was wondering same thing when the one pic shows Indy and Jody together staring at the monitor like they are trying to figure something out. It’s a pic in sightings but I don’t know how to copy it here



Indy have taken their photos (as they were first to arrive) and they were editing/printing their photo when Jody arrived. Jody were just peeking over Indy's photo lol.

Hey Vic, did you somehow manage to see what kind of photo they should take? Was it like the one attached on the booth?

(https://i.imgur.com/NNt5utO.png)

I'm just thinking if it's a selfie or if there's a designated photographer that they should search or they should ask locals to take their photo. :)

Yes, it is just a usual photo of the Victoria Harbour. The designated photographer did all the job. Teams just need to pose and get their photos/clues.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Vicdemort on October 23, 2017, 09:41:16 PM
Do you have video? Vicdemort

From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Was wondering same thing when the one pic shows Indy and Jody together staring at the monitor like they are trying to figure something out. It’s a pic in sightings but I don’t know how to copy it here



Indy have taken their photos (as they were first to arrive) and they were editing/printing their photo when Jody arrived. Jody were just peeking over Indy's photo lol.

Hey Vic, did you somehow manage to see what kind of photo they should take? Was it like the one attached on the booth?

(https://i.imgur.com/NNt5utO.png)

I'm just thinking if it's a selfie or if there's a designated photographer that they should search or they should ask locals to take their photo. :)

Yes, it is just a usual photo of the Victoria Harbour. The designated photographer did all the job. Teams just need to pose and get their photos/clues.

Not for that part.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 23, 2017, 09:41:50 PM
Do you have video? Vicdemort

From Vic's post here, I wonder what were they looking for at that monitor... Because I don't think that was a setup booth. Can someone explain? ???

(https://i.imgur.com/lRpKT38h.jpg)

Most likely to see the photo they just took of themselves at the overlook. Maybe they can choose which one they like and had to print one out.
Was wondering same thing when the one pic shows Indy and Jody together staring at the monitor like they are trying to figure something out. It’s a pic in sightings but I don’t know how to copy it here



Indy have taken their photos (as they were first to arrive) and they were editing/printing their photo when Jody arrived. Jody were just peeking over Indy's photo lol.

Hey Vic, did you somehow manage to see what kind of photo they should take? Was it like the one attached on the booth?

(https://i.imgur.com/NNt5utO.png)

I'm just thinking if it's a selfie or if there's a designated photographer that they should search or they should ask locals to take their photo. :)

Yes, it is just a usual photo of the Victoria Harbour. The designated photographer did all the job. Teams just need to pose and get their photos/clues.
I have uploaded all of his videos in my Google drive
Check the live sighting thread
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 23, 2017, 11:19:48 PM
Nevermind, they landed in SFO a little over an hour ago.  Photos in live sighting thread.

Final destination (reportedly) is everywhere, if you want to find it, try twitter.

Just so you don't have to google it?

On May 4, 1965, San Francisco Giants outfielder Willie Mays hits his 512th career home run to break Mel Ott's National League record for home runs. Mays would finish his career with 660 home runs, good for third on the all-time list at the time of his retirement.    :dick   :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 24, 2017, 12:15:13 AM
I would be really surprised if it was a night finale

Now here's hoping it's better than the last night finale (24)  :funny:

Was S24's finale bad, because the best team in the world Dave and Connor won? :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 12:16:40 AM
Nevermind, they landed in SFO a little over an hour ago.  Photos in live sighting thread.

Final destination (reportedly) is everywhere, if you want to find it, try twitter.

Just so you don't have to google it?

On May 4, 1965, San Francisco Giants outfielder Willie Mays hits his 512th career home run to break Mel Ott's National League record for home runs. Mays would finish his career with 660 home runs, good for third on the all-time list at the time of his retirement.    :dick   :D

Hah! My mind is a storehouse of useless information so I knew that.  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 24, 2017, 12:17:26 AM
I would be really surprised if it was a night finale

Now here's hoping it's better than the last night finale (24)  :funny:

Was S24's finale bad, because the best team in the world Dave and Connor won? :funny:

No. Because it's an absolute joke of a leg.

Digging in the middle of nowhere.
Lightbulbs that failed to allow ANY placement changes.
A magic task that failed to allow ANY placement changes.
A "final task" which decided the winners by first-come first-served to the final clue.

Literally anyone could make a better finale than that.

That said, this is off-topic so sorry for derailing the thread.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 12:26:30 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/search/san+francisco+pier+40+walk+to+pier+39/@37.7817323,-122.422469,13z/data=!3m1!4b1

Look at this map, and listen to the directions that guy gave the skiers.

wow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 12:26:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/xcF6oqKbwnU

A couple of things.
The clue is to figure out how many home runs Willie Mays hit in his career (660) and those are the numbers they need on the baseballs they'll collect. They ask that guy to Google it while they're standing in front of the huge Willie Mays statue with plaques that probably tell them that info. (I dunno, I never read it, but most likely)

Then the Additional Info tells them to go to Pier 40 for the kayaks probably, but the guy filming tells them Pier 40 is 2 miles away. OMGNO. :groan: He's probably thinking about Pier 39. Pier 40 is right behind AT&T. What if he just sent the ladies all the way down the Embarcadero for nothing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 12:30:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/xcF6oqKbwnU

A couple of things.
The clue is to figure out how many home runs Willie Mays hit in his career (660) and those are the numbers they need on the baseballs they'll collect. They ask that guy to Google it while they're standing in front of the huge Willie Mays statue with plaques that probably tell them that info. (I dunno, I never read it, but most likely)

Then the Additional Info tells them to go to Pier 40 for the kayaks probably, but the guy filming tells them Pier 40 is 2 miles away. OMGNO. :groan: He's probably thinking about Pier 39. Pier 40 is right behind AT&T. What if he just sent the ladies all the way down the Embarcadero for nothing.

Yup, that could end their game, and he told them to run instead of wait for a cab too.

Map from 40 to 39.  https://www.google.com/maps/search/san+francisco+pier+40+walk+to+pier+39/@37.7817323,-122.422469,13z/data=!3m1!4b1
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 24, 2017, 12:31:09 AM
OF COURSE California is featured on TAR!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 24, 2017, 12:31:29 AM
Which teams are those in the kayaks?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 12:31:59 AM
nvm
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 24, 2017, 12:32:15 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/search/san+francisco+pier+40+walk+to+pier+39/@37.7817323,-122.422469,13z/data=!3m1!4b1

Look at this map, and listen to the directions that guy gave the skiers.

wow.

It's obvious he was sabotaging them :res:

"Can you check on your phone" "ASK HIM HE KNOWS HE'S VERY GOOD AT THIS" *keeps recording*
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 12:34:47 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/search/san+francisco+pier+40+walk+to+pier+39/@37.7817323,-122.422469,13z/data=!3m1!4b1

Look at this map, and listen to the directions that guy gave the skiers.

wow.

It's obvious he was sabotaging them :res:

"Can you check on your phone" "ASK HIM HE KNOWS HE'S VERY GOOD AT THIS" *keeps recording*

He probably thought 40 was close to 39.  It's an easy mistake to make, everyone knows where Pier 39 is, the other piers?  Not so much.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 12:35:38 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/search/san+francisco+pier+40+walk+to+pier+39/@37.7817323,-122.422469,13z/data=!3m1!4b1

Look at this map, and listen to the directions that guy gave the skiers.

wow.

It's obvious he was sabotaging them :res:

"Can you check on your phone" "ASK HIM HE KNOWS HE'S VERY GOOD AT THIS" *keeps recording*

There was something mischevious about the way he was talking to the person recoding at the end, but I wasn't sure if he was just clueless or intentionally feeding Skiers wrong info.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 24, 2017, 12:39:33 AM
Okay.  Asking again.

Whose teams were those at the kayaks?!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 12:41:18 AM
Maybe.  I lived their 13 years, and never went to Pier 40.  I would have thought it was by 39 as well. 

??   :dontgo:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 12:41:28 AM
Okay.  Asking again.

Whose teams were those at the kayaks?!

Which photos? Each set of photos is of a different team and it's in order of teams arriving to the kayaks 1) Debaters 2) Jody 3) Skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 12:41:54 AM
Oh god ski girls appear to be flopping.. Hopefully they can get back in it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 12:42:56 AM
Skiers must have checked the clue and realized the mistake or they asked someone else.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 12:46:12 AM
Maybe.  I lived their 13 years, and never went to Pier 40.  I would have thought it was by 39 as well. 

??   :dontgo:

Pier 40 is one of the docks for anyone to launch from when they want to hang out in McCovey Cove during games.
I wonder if TAR didn't intentionally point that out hoping someone makes the mistake of heading to Pier 39.

NEXT:

Teams are picked up by Zodiac boats...taken away:  (Zodiac Pics from earlier)

SPEC:
Taken out to sea?? Bay Bridge??

Overheard: First team just JUMPED!

Missed opportunity not taking teams to Alcatraz for a spooky night task or something lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 24, 2017, 12:50:26 AM
FYI Willy Mays' stats are listed on the plaque on the statue they were all standing next to.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 12:58:04 AM
FYI Willy Mays' stats are listed on the plaque on the statue they were all standing next to.

I hope the show edits it to convey the comedy of errors the clue hunting was, particularly for the Skiers
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:00:41 AM
FYI Willy Mays' stats are listed on the plaque on the statue they were all standing next to.

WOW,  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 01:04:11 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/search/san+francisco+pier+40+walk+to+pier+39/@37.7817323,-122.422469,13z/data=!3m1!4b1

Look at this map, and listen to the directions that guy gave the skiers.

wow.

It's obvious he was sabotaging them :res:

"Can you check on your phone" "ASK HIM HE KNOWS HE'S VERY GOOD AT THIS" *keeps recording*

He probably thought 40 was close to 39.  It's an easy mistake to make, everyone knows where Pier 39 is, the other piers?  Not so much.

I lived in the SF area for years, but it's been a while. I think the odd numbered piers are on the ocean side of the Ferry building and the even numbers on the bay side.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 01:07:08 AM

I lived in the SF area for years, but it's been a while. I think the odd numbered piers are on the ocean side of the Ferry building and the even numbers on the bay side.

That's right.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 24, 2017, 01:17:51 AM
From the sightings being given in the sighting thread, it sounds like this is a hella close final leg!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 01:22:08 AM
Pinnacle, you're doing a great job!   :bunny
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 01:22:26 AM
From the sightings being given in the sighting thread, it sounds like this is a hella close final leg!

yes although I don't like that they did a baking (fortune cookie) challenge in the final.. That is boring.. I wanted them to climb up and jump off stuff..

lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 01:23:00 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if the final mat is close to TAR 2's with the Golden Gate Bridge, but at night.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:24:49 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if the final mat is close to TAR 2's with the Golden Gate Bridge, but at night.

Or running up the "crookedest street in the world" via sidewalks.  SO many options in SF.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 01:25:26 AM
Clue: Proceed to the Place Joe DIMAGGIO and Marilyn Monroe Got Married!!

I've been there. Very impressive! Don't think I'm allowed to say where it is yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 24, 2017, 01:26:19 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if the final mat is close to TAR 2's with the Golden Gate Bridge, but at night.

I was thinking that, too. Sausalito, site of the closest finish they ever had!

Also, the place Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe got married. SF City Hall.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:29:01 AM
My boyfriend lost his clutch (saved it barely) as we were stuck in traffic driving up that hill in order to drive down the crooked street, before I lived there.  Worst hour of MY LIFE, well not really, but it was scary as hell, bumper to bumper.

San Francisco City Hall

is the next location
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 01:29:06 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if the final mat is close to TAR 2's with the Golden Gate Bridge, but at night.

Right now though, the more picturesque Finish Line though would be somewhere the Bay Lights on the Bay Bridge are visible in the background:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/vice_asset_uploader/files/1418914753490349873rd.gif)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 01:31:50 AM
Cluebox outside!!

RUN to FINAL LOCATION!
As in Finish Line?
From City Hall? Indoor Finish Line?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 24, 2017, 01:32:01 AM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33374.0;attach=270180;image)
So cool City Hall in TAR colors.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 24, 2017, 01:33:39 AM
Cluebox outside!!

RUN to FINAL LOCATION!
As in Finish Line?
From City Hall? Indoor Finish Line?

In the RFF tradition of not revealing final location and finishing order, this might be where the revealed locations end, I'd guess :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 01:34:14 AM
What do u mean run to finish line? Where is the classic puzzle task?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 01:34:48 AM
What do u mean run to finish line? Where is the classic puzzle task?

I hope the last task wasn't making fortune cookies.. That is like the lamest thing ever for a final.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 24, 2017, 01:35:03 AM
Link to the City Hall distant webcam:

http://www.outsidecams.com/north-america/united-states/california/san-francisco/sf-city-hall-dome/
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:35:37 AM
That's a lot of lights up, if that isn't the finale.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 01:37:50 AM
That's a lot of lights up, if that isn't the finale.

City Hall (and the airport actually) are regularly lit up in different colors for different things. (Local sports teams, causes, flag colors) It's easy to swap out filters for the lights. I tagged along once at SFO.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 01:38:19 AM
Must be close if they have to run there....lots of ground around it, Phil standing at mat still with a view of City Hall in the background. I can almot picture it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 01:38:36 AM
These tasks don't seem finale worthy imo, all they did was kayaks get balls, then get driven to China town on boat do fortune cookie task then go to city hall??? There better be more
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 01:40:06 AM
If there was anyplace that got the marriage equality movement its legs towards legal victory its IS San Francisco City Hall, btw, when Gavin Newsom was mayor in 2008 and issued all those marriage licenses, during a gap period which was later validated by the courts.
Of course this season will air in 2018, which is ten years later! (And 14 years and 26 seasons after two gay men won the Race under the tagline "married.")
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 24, 2017, 01:41:35 AM
Could the fortune cookies be a memory task? ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 01:41:44 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if the final mat is close to TAR 2's with the Golden Gate Bridge, but at night.

Right now though, the more picturesque Finish Line though would be somewhere the Bay Lights on the Bay Bridge are visible in the background:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/vice_asset_uploader/files/1418914753490349873rd.gif)

I speculated to someone lately that a cool task would have been to copy what the Bachelor did a few seasons on the Bay Bridge and have racers walk up the suspension cable from the roadway to the top of a tower. Probably too dangerous at night and really no way for teams to pass each other. Unless they climbed different towers. I didn't think of that before.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 01:43:04 AM
Must be close if they have to run there....lots of ground around it, Phil standing at mat still with a view of City Hall in the background. I can almot picture it.

Could be indoors. Plenty of theaters around the area, like TAR21's night finale.
Kinda funny having teams run around the area. Maybe even into the Tenderloin. At midnight?!  :D lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 01:43:41 AM
The tasks for this finale have been so tame...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:44:59 AM
Well, I doubt they are headed south of Mission, so Coit Tower, Lombard's crooked street, the Pyramid building?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 01:51:22 AM
Must be close if they have to run there....lots of ground around it, Phil standing at mat still with a view of City Hall in the background. I can almot picture it.

Could be indoors. Plenty of theaters around the area, like TAR21's night finale.
Kinda funny having teams run around the area. Maybe even into the Tenderloin. At midnight?!  :D lol

Yeah there are 3 or 4 theaters with stages that could be used for memory challenges. Take a wrong turn in the Tenderloin and we could have a switchback to Charla and Mirna and the Polish Streetwalker. "Don't bother her, she's working."  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 01:54:40 AM
Well, I doubt they are headed south of Mission, so Coit Tower, Lombard's crooked street, the Pyramid building?

It's not an easy run to get from City Hall to those locations.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:55:24 AM
Well, I doubt they are headed south of Mission, so Coit Tower, Lombard's crooked street, the Pyramid building?

It's not an easy run to get from City Hall to those locations.

Yup, lots of hills.  I can't see them running south though, not this time of night.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 01:55:52 AM

Yeah there are 3 or 4 theaters with stages that could be used for memory challenges. Take a wrong turn in the Tenderloin and we could have a switchback to Charla and Mirna and the Polish Streetwalker. "Don't bother her, she's working."  :funny:

"Charla, she's really pissed we're asking her. She has business to do." (https://youtu.be/1IH1YzuFWfw?t=3m28s)

...

I mean, there's plenty of places to run to in the Civic Center area. But it can't be that far at this time of night. Plus, it's not like they could easily find a taxi to another location, if there is one after either. Very strange.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 24, 2017, 01:56:13 AM
The UN Plaza?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 01:58:51 AM
The UN Plaza?

...and you would still see City Hall in the background.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: paradoxinee on October 24, 2017, 01:59:29 AM
I hope fortune cookie is not lucky task and there is at least a RB and a memory challange (a combination of the two is greater).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:00:20 AM
The UN Plaza?

That would be interestingly too close I would think to run to. Though it certainly would be hidden from view of the cluebox at City Hall, depending on where in the plaza it was at.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 02:03:19 AM
Even thought the Palace of Fine Arts is further, there are less hills, and man, that would be a fantastic place for the finish.

Anyone think there is one more (memory) task, or just a foot race to the end now?  (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/uCAHyydYlO7kwU94KW-sW_sdQDo=/56x0:967x683/920x613/filters:focal(56x0:967x683):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48182229/jyhrtegrfsdvbfght.0.jpeg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:04:32 AM

ALL TAKING TAXIS to FINAL LOCATION!
Oh, so NOT on foot to "FINAL LOCATION" which equals or does not equal the Finish Line?

Taxis though eh? In San Francisco? Hmm... I wonder if the show had some ready for them.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Firestone on October 24, 2017, 02:06:49 AM

ALL TAKING TAXIS to FINAL LOCATION!
Oh, so NOT on foot to "FINAL LOCATION" which equals or does not equal the Finish Line?

yeah thats what im wondering too
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 02:07:23 AM
I'm confused, I thought they were running to it? Now in other thread it says they taking taxis?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 02:08:40 AM
They ran to a final cluebox, I suspect, and are taking taxis to the final mat.....just like in TAR 2.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 02:09:48 AM
They ran to a final cluebox, I suspect, and are taking taxis to the final mat.....just like in TAR 2.

So the fortune cookie task had to be the classic staple puzzle then if there is no other puzzle
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 02:10:04 AM
Golden Gate Bridge?  That seems likely.  Damn taxis, I was happy it was a footrace.

Did ANYONE notice in all those photos we've had who was still carrying a backpack?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 02:12:12 AM
Even thought the Palace of Fine Arts is further, there are less hills, and man, that would be a fantastic place for the finish.

Anyone think there is one more (memory) task, or just a foot race to the end now?  (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/uCAHyydYlO7kwU94KW-sW_sdQDo=/56x0:967x683/920x613/filters:focal(56x0:967x683):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48182229/jyhrtegrfsdvbfght.0.jpeg)

It was somewhere that came up in speculation. I agree it would be a great backdrop. It's the only building left from the 1915 World's Fair. I don't think it would work well at night. There's too much to be lit up. You would have to take a taxi to get there. Too far from City Hall.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: michaelmarill on October 24, 2017, 02:12:39 AM
Golden Gate Bridge?  That seems likely.  Damn taxis, I was happy it was a footrace.

Did ANYONE notice in all those photos we've had who was still carrying a backpack?

supposedly, Skiers were the only ones reported not carrying their bags; I'm not 100% sure
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 24, 2017, 02:12:53 AM
Golden Gate Bridge?  That seems likely.  Damn taxis, I was happy it was a footrace.

Did ANYONE notice in all those photos we've had who was still carrying a backpack?
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Looks like the skiers are the only ones WITHOUT backpacks....
I thought Jess got advice from Rachel before the race started??  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 02:13:04 AM
A long footrace would have been way better and allowed lead changes u would think these producers would want some instead of a predictable lead
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 02:14:26 AM
Even thought the Palace of Fine Arts is further, there are less hills, and man, that would be a fantastic place for the finish.

Anyone think there is one more (memory) task, or just a foot race to the end now?  (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/uCAHyydYlO7kwU94KW-sW_sdQDo=/56x0:967x683/920x613/filters:focal(56x0:967x683):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48182229/jyhrtegrfsdvbfght.0.jpeg)

It was somewhere that came up in speculation. I agree it would be a great backdrop. It's the only building left from the 1915 World's Fair. I don't think it would work well at night. There's too much to be lit up. You would have to take a taxi to get there. Too far from City Hall.

I lived near there in the Marina.  It always USED to be lit up at night (and gorgeous.)  Isn't it now?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:14:41 AM
Pretty difficult for a good footrace in the middle of the night in San Francisco though.
Depending on where the Finish Line is, if the taxis get there around the same time, and there's open space between drop off and Finish Line, maybe then.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 02:16:51 AM
Pretty difficult for a good footrace in the middle of the night in San Francisco though.
Depending on where the Finish Line is, if the taxis get there around the same time, and there's open space between drop off and Finish Line, maybe then.

Again, Palace of Fine Arts would work for that, several ways in around a lake to the main dome.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:17:09 AM
So Leg looks like...

SFO
-Clue from someone waiting in the Arrivals Lobby

AT&T Park
-Kayak into McCovey Cove and search for three baseballs with the numbers of Willie Mays' career HR total (660)

Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory/Chinatown
-Make Fortune Cookies, receive a HUGE fortune cookie with clue inside

-Find where Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe got married:
City Hall/Civic Center Plaza
-Route Marker

Final Task and Finish Line?

A task missing somewhere I assume.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 02:17:56 AM
As to a footrace to the finish mat -- that is exactly what happened in TAR 2 when Alex and Chris ran down the lead team to reach the mat first by mere seconds, and the third place team was in sight of the finish mat as well.
It would be ironic if this season has a similar finish after seasons of not getting a real close finish like that which took place in TAR 2.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 24, 2017, 02:18:19 AM
Golden Gate Park?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 02:18:52 AM
Even thought the Palace of Fine Arts is further, there are less hills, and man, that would be a fantastic place for the finish.

Anyone think there is one more (memory) task, or just a foot race to the end now?  (https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/uCAHyydYlO7kwU94KW-sW_sdQDo=/56x0:967x683/920x613/filters:focal(56x0:967x683):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48182229/jyhrtegrfsdvbfght.0.jpeg)

It was somewhere that came up in speculation. I agree it would be a great backdrop. It's the only building left from the 1915 World's Fair. I don't think it would work well at night. There's too much to be lit up. You would have to take a taxi to get there. Too far from City Hall.

I lived near there in the Marina.  It always USED to be lit up at night (and gorgeous.)  Isn't it now?

I defer to your local knowledge. I lived in Oakland and the times I was there, it was during the day. I didn't know it was lit up at night.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 24, 2017, 02:20:13 AM
So Leg looks like...

SFO
-Clue from someone waiting in the Arrivals Lobby

AT&T Park
-Kayak into McCovey Cove and search for three baseballs with the numbers of Willie Mays' career HR total (660)

Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory/Chinatown
-Make Fortune Cookies, receive a HUGE fortune cookie with clue inside

-Find where Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe got married:
City Hall/Civic Center Plaza
-Route Marker

Final Task and Finish Line?

A task missing somewhere I assume.

There was a trip on a boat and overhead that someone jumped?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:20:53 AM
Palace of Fine Arts is lit up at night.

With this though...
DEBATERS FIRST AT TRIVIA TASK - HAVE TO PUT ALL FLAGS IN CORRECT ORDER - RIGHT OUTSIDE OF FINAL PITSTOP - ALL TEAMS SHOWN BUT GOAT YOGA :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
maybe Golden Gate Park or somewhere in the Presidio would have a little more room for a task like this?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 02:21:30 AM
(https://out.reddit.com/t3_2wqf3s?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPpFGqDn.jpg&token=AQAAgPfuWWVMPdn1AfX4C8WS7-1um_MLhwthjiVRsI_wC9OwQF22&app_name=reddit.com)

Night time.  Room to shoot, run around a lake, several ways in to the dome...it could work.

Yikes, sorry, it's HUGE, I don't know how to shrink it.

There is room there, there are out buildings as well.  An assembly hall/theater type thing, and is the Exploratorium still there?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:22:19 AM

There was a trip on a boat and overhead that someone jumped?

Oh yes!

San Francisco International Airport
-Clue from someone waiting in the Arrivals Lobby

AT&T Park
-Kayak into McCovey Cove and search for three baseballs with the numbers of Willie Mays' career HR total (660)

-Zodiac Boats into SF Bay to:
Pier 15/Exploratorium (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,33374.msg1211523.html#msg1211523)

Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory/Chinatown
-Make Fortune Cookies, receive a HUGE fortune cookie with clue inside

-Find where Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe got married:
City Hall/Civic Center Plaza
-Route Marker

Final Task and Finish Line?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 02:22:30 AM
Hmm.. a first time poster that has the scoop on the final destination and task with an eliminated team reference. Sure... I can believe in that.

Haven't had a good troll in a while. Guess we still haven't.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 02:24:38 AM
Golden Gate Park?

I made that suggestion two hours ago. But it would be whatever city parks are on the city side of the bridge. There are two parks, one on each side of the highway.....and TAR 2 used the lesser known and harder to reach park.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 02:25:39 AM
They should have made the final Matt at the top of the Golden Gate Bridge and had them climb all the way to the top to win
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:26:27 AM
FYI: Golden Gate Park is not at Golden Gate Bridge.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 24, 2017, 02:27:11 AM
Don’t know about the final task, but at the final location and they were doing something before running to the mat
Far off, can’t tell too well beyond that
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 02:28:08 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 02:29:08 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..
That's even if that person is telling the truth, they are a new poster
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:29:27 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..

Season 9 was decided with country flags :D
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 02:29:37 AM
Don’t know about the final task, but at the final location and they were doing something before running to the mat
Far off, can’t tell too well beyond that

Can you tell us more?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 02:29:59 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..

It's about the race, and they've done it before, flags, greeters, etc.  It's usually cool.

I still say The Palace of Fine Arts.  Ha!  I'm being stubborn, it would be such a cool location.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 02:30:56 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..

It's been done several times...TAR 9 was the first IIRC. And it did make a difference that time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghmorello on October 24, 2017, 02:31:27 AM
Jody fans are so toxic on Twitter. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 02:31:43 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..

It's about the race, and they've done it before, flags, greeters, etc.  It's usually cool.

I still say The Palace of Fine Arts.  Ha!  I'm being stubborn, it would be such a cool location.

I dunno.. I just expected more climbing, running, heights type stuff for the final of the amazing race..

I feel like that is way more exciting than making fortune cookies and flag puzzles.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 24, 2017, 02:32:15 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..
That's how BJ and Tyler beat Eric and Jeremy in TAR9.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 24, 2017, 02:32:39 AM
Are we allowed to discuss about the Finish Line now, Decectives?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:33:12 AM
I dunno.. I just expected more climbing, running, heights type stuff for the final of the amazing race..

I feel like that is way more exciting than making fortune cookies and flag puzzles.

Well, night leg in San Francisco certainly limits what kinds of tasks can be done. Daytime Leg? Plenty of stuff.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 02:33:27 AM
so the entire million dollars relies on a flag puzzle?  Kind of lame for a "race" but oh well..

Many of the countries visited had obscure flags. Give them about 50 flags to choose from and it won't be that easy. Especially if you weren't paying attention to things I like that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 02:33:44 AM
Are we allowed to discuss about the Finish Line now, Decectives?

If we aren't can you PM me? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 02:34:32 AM
Are we allowed to discuss about the Finish Line now, Decectives?
The actual location? No. Not until its over.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 02:39:02 AM
Apparently Mr. Parasites has been refuted.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 24, 2017, 02:39:23 AM
Are we allowed to discuss about the Finish Line now, Decectives?
The actual location? No. Not until its over.

I mean where we THINK the Finsih line will be.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 24, 2017, 02:39:53 AM
Apparently Mr. Parasites has been refuted.  :groan:

I'm starting to itch over here!  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 02:42:03 AM
GEORGIA HAS SEEMED TO LOCK THE LOCATION OF MY SPOILERS. SKIIERS WENT AGAIN AND ARE WRONG. DEBATERS ARE PUTTING IN FROM WHAT I REMEMBER COULD BE RIGHT! DEBATERS MAY WIN! : :spy: :spy: :spy: :spy:

Sure, Jan.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on October 24, 2017, 02:42:21 AM
Apparently Mr. Parasites has been refuted.  :groan:

Well, what is the truth then? Why isn't Peach, who apparently knows what's "truly happening", not telling anything or at least hinting what's actually going on? She even locked the Live Sightings thread. :funny:

YOU COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:42:40 AM
GEORGIA HAS SEEMED TO LOCK THE LOCATION OF MY SPOILERS. SKIIERS WENT AGAIN AND ARE WRONG. DEBATERS ARE PUTTING IN FROM WHAT I REMEMBER COULD BE RIGHT! DEBATERS MAY WIN! : :spy: :spy: :spy: :spy:
:bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 24, 2017, 02:43:28 AM
Oh my gosh!  Two reveals in two nights!  EPIC

Thanks Peach     BRAVO     

:conf: :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 24, 2017, 02:43:42 AM
GEORGIA HAS SEEMED TO LOCK THE LOCATION OF MY SPOILERS. SKIIERS WENT AGAIN AND ARE WRONG. DEBATERS ARE PUTTING IN FROM WHAT I REMEMBER COULD BE RIGHT! DEBATERS MAY WIN! : :spy: :spy: :spy: :spy:

Is this 'fake news'?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 24, 2017, 02:46:01 AM
Sorry guys, security stopped us from getting close

Really bad angle, couldn’t see much of anything beyond the fact they’re doing a task; and we saw the light of a camera in transit to another area of the final location

Peach will share what the location is when she feels it’s ready
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghmorello on October 24, 2017, 02:46:42 AM
GEORGIA HAS SEEMED TO LOCK THE LOCATION OF MY SPOILERS. SKIIERS WENT AGAIN AND ARE WRONG. DEBATERS ARE PUTTING IN FROM WHAT I REMEMBER COULD BE RIGHT! DEBATERS MAY WIN! : :spy: :spy: :spy: :spy:

Is this 'fake news'?

I would say so.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 24, 2017, 02:47:21 AM
ITS OVER. DEBATERS JUST WON AND PHIL CONGRATULATING. JODY FINISHED ABOUT 45 SECONDS AFTER IN TEARS.

FAKE NEWS
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 24, 2017, 02:47:51 AM
Peach - thank you for all your hard work moderating this site. It is very much appreciated. (And all the other Mods too :) )
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 02:48:20 AM
Apparently Mr. Parasites has been refuted.  :groan:

Well, what is the truth then? Why isn't Peach, who apparently knows what's "truly happening", not telling anything or at least hinting what's actually going on? She even locked the Live Sightings thread. :funny:

If you've been paying attention, Peach is on the scene right now and kinda busy. Too busy to be deleting made up sightings. Yes, there may be real sightings that won't get in right away, but the RFF ground team seem to have things well covered.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 02:53:40 AM
I am just going to assume it is over and they placed in the order they got to that final clue box as it makes the most logical sense to me..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2017, 02:55:21 AM
Sorry guys. Apparently someone sent a troll...jealous much?

Spoilers will resume shortly.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 24, 2017, 02:56:15 AM
That newbie is a troll and don't trust with the fake spoilers. I do mean what is the actual finish line would be taking place.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 24, 2017, 02:59:13 AM
RFF detectives and associates ROCK!  All around the world! 

What a class act!  Thanks!

 :conf: :conf: :conf:

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: michaelmarill on October 24, 2017, 03:01:25 AM
https://twitter.com/DylanWhatsUp/status/922733989215064064

Troller found
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghmorello on October 24, 2017, 03:07:29 AM
https://twitter.com/DylanWhatsUp/status/922733989215064064

Troller found

Don't feed him.  Anyways, I'm about to hit the sack.  Guess there's tomorrow.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: michaelmarill on October 24, 2017, 03:09:08 AM
https://twitter.com/DylanWhatsUp/status/922733989215064064

Troller found

Don't feed him.  Anyways, I'm about to hit the sack.  Guess there's tomorrow.

He's banned from the forums, we should be fine..

I'm crashing in too.... after I finish homework.

And thanks again for all those staying up late to provide info!  :bunny
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 03:12:12 AM
RFF detectives and associates ROCK!  All around the world! 

What a class act!  Thanks!

 :conf: :conf: :conf:

Thank you from this little cog in the machine. It's a lot of work, but a lot of fun when you find something. The real hero is Peach. She barely sleeps while the race is on and she finds out so many things that I can't begin to figure out how it was done.

Between all the work the Jody fans have done and all we have done, it's been a well spoiled season. It's not over though. There's no doubt more info that will be trickling out over time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 24, 2017, 03:18:55 AM
Thanks so much Peach, for spending all of your avaible hours, searching the web to find spoilers for us to enjoy!

Thanks for the work you do as well Dectectives!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 03:21:05 AM
Yes, big thanks to Peach and all the posters here that are so reliable.

I'm glad I'm back to TAR.  I think I'll watch the seasons I've missed over the next few weeks.

GREAT WORK, and thank you Peach!

 :conf: :angel

I still wanna know that location though!  Ha!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 03:21:55 AM
do we know how long it takes after the race ends for the racers to get back on social media?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 24, 2017, 03:32:02 AM
do we know how long it takes after the race ends for the racers to get back on social media?

Probably not long. I don't think they are restricted any longer once they wrap up tonight's filming. Sleeping and a good meal may be a priority right now though. Don't expect a lot of juicy details until after each episode airs.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 03:37:25 AM
This late night west coast final leg is pushing me to bed as well. Edele is impatient about my not coming to bed (as this little one has decided to pin me down at night by using my leg as her pillow) so I will have to wait to see how this played out here.

And yes, I will explain who Edele is in the appropriate place when I have some time and energy for. For now, just know she is a five month old mini schnauzer female puppy with more energy than the energizer bunny.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 03:54:05 AM
 :zzz
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on October 24, 2017, 03:56:33 AM
Regardless of what happens, at least 1 female will win the competition.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 03:58:48 AM
Regardless of what happens, at least 1 female will win the competition.

I like how the women outnumbered the men in the final 4/2.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 24, 2017, 04:02:44 AM
Regardless of what happens, at least 1 female will win the competition.

I like how the women outnumbered the men in the final 4/2.
Especially after the men outnumbered them thirteen to nine at the outset.  Like I said, that's a nice dose of karma to CBS and its casting department.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 04:08:08 AM
Is it safe now to post the Finish Line location since they're probably packed up now and either in bed or celebrating with a hotel party in the City?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on October 24, 2017, 07:25:24 AM
Is this the latest finish ever on TAR or TAR24 beat this? I mean, it's around 2AM right in SF but the race was still on going. CMIIW
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 24, 2017, 07:54:53 AM
Guys! I just read a theory by tweeter @johneesa on why 2 teams didn't pay their cabbies as per our RFF team's sighting. I'm attaching the screenshot. Hope some expert clarifies it, if thats a possibility!
Losing a cab driver must be scary in the finale..
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 24, 2017, 08:15:36 AM
So skiers were 1st who opened "go to the finish line" clue, correct?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Neobie on October 24, 2017, 08:19:30 AM
Back to Hong Kong for a bit...

If this was already posted, please delete but I don't remember seeing it.

On Instagram maxprice3 posted a video in Hong Kong giving wrong directions to the skiers.

Jen/Kristi were looking for D'Aguilar St in Lan Kwai Fong (nightlife area), while standing on D'Aguilar St!
And yep that guy pointed them the wrong way. (The skiers walked right past the location 10 paces back!)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 24, 2017, 08:24:34 AM
Guys! I just read a theory by tweeter @johneesa on why 2 teams didn't pay their cabbies as per our RFF team's sighting. I'm attaching the screenshot. Hope some expert clarifies it, if thats a possibility!
Losing a cab driver must be scary in the finale..
Don't see how you can deduce which teams were in the lead based on (not) paying their taxis.
Yes, it happens VERY often that taxis are instructed to wait for teams, and are therefore not payed in advance, but teams must go back and pay them before finishing the leg.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 09:11:55 AM
What song is playing in this video I love a new bop  :conf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiDThj6Vn8c
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 24, 2017, 09:22:42 AM
Jessica is already back on Twitter
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 09:25:35 AM
Legends Jody will be invited back if they ever do a TAR allstars again. I cant wait.  :conf:

Thanks for all your spoilers this season everyone who scouted.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 24, 2017, 09:41:48 AM
What song is playing in this video I love a new bop  :conf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiDThj6Vn8c

Personal by The Vamps (so ironically appropriate) :bunny
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 10:08:56 AM
If this was already posted, please delete but I don't remember seeing it.

On Instagram maxprice3 posted a video in Hong Kong giving wrong directions to the skiers.
Dude are people really trying to sabotage the skiers or something.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 24, 2017, 10:12:11 AM
If this was already posted, please delete but I don't remember seeing it.

On Instagram maxprice3 posted a video in Hong Kong giving wrong directions to the skiers.
Dude are people really trying to sabotage the skiers or something.

Well, the fans on Twitter did say to only help Jody in Hong Kong. That guy might have been one of the people who got the message. I really hope this didn't happen extensively over the course of the race, locals intentionally sabotaging the other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 24, 2017, 10:19:20 AM
If this was already posted, please delete but I don't remember seeing it.

On Instagram maxprice3 posted a video in Hong Kong giving wrong directions to the skiers.
Dude are people really trying to sabotage the skiers or something.

Well, the fans on Twitter did say to only help Jody in Hong Kong. That guy might have been one of the people who got the message. I really hope this didn't happen extensively over the course of the race, locals intentionally sabotaging the other teams.

This guy just seemed like he wanted to cause trouble. No agenda other than being a jerk.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 24, 2017, 10:20:23 AM
If this was already posted, please delete but I don't remember seeing it.

On Instagram maxprice3 posted a video in Hong Kong giving wrong directions to the skiers.
Dude are people really trying to sabotage the skiers or something.

Well, the fans on Twitter did say to only help Jody in Hong Kong. That guy might have been one of the people who got the message. I really hope this didn't happen extensively over the course of the race, locals intentionally sabotaging the other teams.
Please don't put this on "Jody fans" I'm one and "integrity & honor" would be more fitting for a marine and his lady.  Stop pointing fingers and take it for what it was--(look at this guys instagram site) He was a jerk.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 10:23:45 AM
Well, some fans were actively rooting for sabotage last night during the finale. Really annoying. Hopefully Cody and Jessica would tell any fans off if they ever heard about their fans trying to do that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 24, 2017, 10:24:12 AM
Yeah, maybe it was one incident. It was late at night, when the more troublesome people come out, as they say.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 24, 2017, 10:27:09 AM
My heart goes out for Skiers. Those are some tough strong willed women to crack. Even after that, they manage to survive the leg and reach Finals. Who knows ? They were leading when we last heard. May just have won the race. Girl Power!!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 24, 2017, 10:28:50 AM
Sadly I think some people on reddit were talking about sabotaging earlier, but I really hope this wasn't the case and that the guy who sent the skiiers the wrong way was genuinely trying to help :/

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 10:30:50 AM
My heart goes out for Skiers. Those are some tough strong willed women to crack. Even after that, they manage to survive the leg and reach Finals. Who knows ? They were leading when we last heard. May just have won the race. Girl Power!!!
Indeed they might have just won the race even after those really really bad directions last night as well. The bad directions put them in last place at the task at AT&T but seem to be leading towards the end of the leg anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 24, 2017, 10:33:25 AM
Sadly I think some people on reddit were talking about sabotaging earlier, but I really hope this wasn't the case and that the guy who sent the skiiers the wrong way was genuinely trying to help :/

He wasn't. His hashtags included #wrongway #noidea #****bloke

He says he couldn't resist bull****ting them. Just seems like a jerk to be a jerk.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 24, 2017, 10:33:49 AM
Great to see a F/F team in the final again. Doesn't happen enough in the US, took 10 seasons to get the first one :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 10:36:58 AM
all of these f3 teams were deserving , even if i wanted jody to win, the skiers and debaters worked their tails off too. This may be the most competitive final have seen tbh. usually there is a flop team who stays behind the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 24, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
So what about the final location and tasks? Are they forbidden here?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 24, 2017, 10:57:42 AM
So what about the final location and tasks? Are they forbidden here?

I think both RFF and the leading twitter spoiler accounts have closed some "pact" as to not spoil the final placements. I think I even saw Peach post that spoiling it is bannable?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 11:00:18 AM
Placements are forbidden. But Finish Line locations and tasks are not. They will be posted whenever those in the know feel like it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 24, 2017, 11:55:25 AM
Has a team, which was trailing 3rd for 2/3rd of the final leg of the amazing race, won at the end ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 11:57:40 AM
Okay...just a quick recap.

The final three teams got their clue at City Hall and headed off in taxis.

The location was NOT close.  It was also NOT possible to SEE into the location...!

Not close to Civic Center? Jumpsuits? Maybe
- The Presidio
- Yerba Buena/Treasure Island?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 24, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
Okay...just a quick recap.

The final three teams got their clue at City Hall and headed off in taxis.

The location was NOT close.  It was also NOT possible to SEE into the location...!

Not close to Civic Center? Jumpsuits? Maybe
- The Presidio
- Yerba Buena/Treasure Island?

I mean Alcatraz would fit the need for jumpsuits...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 24, 2017, 12:17:49 PM
Has a team, which was trailing 3rd for 2/3rd of the final leg of the amazing race, won at the end ?

Season 14, I believe is one? The team had a healthy lead most of the leg, then the one doing the Roadblock got frustrated and mentally shut down on the memory task, they ultimately fell to 3rd.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 24, 2017, 12:20:30 PM
So skiers were 1st who opened "go to the finish line" clue, correct?
Can you guys answer my question, please? Thanks  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on October 24, 2017, 12:30:10 PM
So skiers were 1st who opened "go to the finish line" clue, correct?
Can you guys answer my question, please? Thanks  :)

i think it was "go to the final task location", not "go to finish line". CMIIW
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 24, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
Has a team, which was trailing 3rd for 2/3rd of the final leg of the amazing race, won at the end ?

Season 14, I believe is one? The team had a healthy lead most of the leg, then the one doing the Roadblock got frustrated and mentally shut down on the memory task, they ultimately fell to 3rd.
So did the team that was trailing 3rd won that season ? I haven't seen that season.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 12:33:21 PM
So skiers were 1st who opened "go to the finish line" clue, correct?
Can you guys answer my question, please? Thanks  :)

i think it was "go to the final task location", not "go to finish line". CMIIW

Agreed, if you're talking about the clue at City Hall.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TravelTheWorld on October 24, 2017, 12:35:55 PM
Final destination must have been in Oakland
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 24, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
Has a team, which was trailing 3rd for 2/3rd of the final leg of the amazing race, won at the end ?

Season 14, I believe is one? The team had a healthy lead most of the leg, then the one doing the Roadblock got frustrated and mentally shut down on the memory task, they ultimately fell to 3rd.
So did the team that was trailing 3rd won that season ? I haven't seen that season.

My memory is fuzzy but I do think they won yes. As OP described they only got into first place at the final task. I think the same happened in tar 21 but I'm not sure again!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 12:41:10 PM
Final destination must have been in Oakland

That's Jess going home.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 12:41:35 PM
Okay...just a quick recap.

The final three teams got their clue at City Hall and headed off in taxis.

The location was NOT close.  It was also NOT possible to SEE into the location...!

Not close to Civic Center? Jumpsuits? Maybe
- The Presidio
- Yerba Buena/Treasure Island?

I mean Alcatraz would fit the need for jumpsuits...
Taxi to Alcatraz?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 24, 2017, 12:46:43 PM
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Taxi to Alcatraz?

Well, taking a taxi to Alcatraz might be difficult as its an island  :)

And Ive been to Alcatraz and would die if you made me go at night!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
Obviously.

There are plenty of warehouses and abandoned buildings on Treasure Island. if jumpsuits, maybe something stunt-y like TAR25
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 24, 2017, 12:51:44 PM
So skiers were 1st who opened "go to the finish line" clue, correct?
Can you guys answer my question, please? Thanks  :)

i think it was "go to the final task location", not "go to finish line". CMIIW

Agreed, if you're talking about the clue at City Hall.
So skiers were 1st who got clue at City Hall and then followed final task and then finish line?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 01:03:41 PM
^^^ Yes. Check out Peach's entries on page 15 & 16 in the Sightings thread.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 24, 2017, 01:04:58 PM
Yes, was confirmed Skiers got city hall clue first

After that ???

Peach will reveal what she feels is safe/appropriate to, and in the proper time

Remember, patience is a virtue  :angel ;)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 24, 2017, 01:21:44 PM
Jess and Cody probably took taxi or BART (rapid transit/train) to Oakland for better flight to LA. I don't think the final task was in Oakland (but I suppose it could have been).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TrustCluster on October 24, 2017, 01:28:25 PM
Jess and Cody probably took taxi or BART (rapid transit/train) to Oakland for better flight to LA. I don't think the final task was in Oakland (but I suppose it could have been).

Oakland to Burbank is Jessica flying home as Jess herself sent out that tweet (earlier she sent "We missed you - J + C" ). The penultimate location seems to have been the city hall in San Francisco so I suppose the final location / finish line isn't anywhere near Burbank :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:31:14 PM
Well, they flew out of Oakland.

They started this leg in SF at a sports stadium, the hints we were given was that the location "wasn't close."

Maybe they ended it in the Oakland stadium?  That would be EASY to close off from fans/TAR hunters as well. 

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 01:38:06 PM
Well, they flew out of Oakland.

They started this leg in SF at a sports stadium, the hints we were given was that the location "wasn't close."

Maybe they ended it in the Oakland stadium?  That would be EASY to close off from fans/TAR hunters as well.

Oakland's just a short drive across the Bay Bridge from San Francisco. I think she flew out of Oakland airport for flight convenience or a cheaper rate than that of SFO.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 24, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Well, they flew out of Oakland.

They started this leg in SF at a sports stadium, the hints we were given was that the location "wasn't close."

Maybe they ended it in the Oakland stadium?  That would be EASY to close off from fans/TAR hunters as well.

Oakland's just a short drive across the Bay Bridge from San Francisco. I think she flew out of Oakland airport for flight convenience or a cheaper rate than that of SFO.

Depends on traffic, but yes, it's a ways away.  17 miles but across the bay, google maps says 34 minutes.

Why can't we know the location?  I don't get it. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 02:23:02 PM
I'm so nervous and excited, some fans r posting money throwing gifs whatever that means  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 02:28:47 PM
Why can't we know the location?  I don't get it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 24, 2017, 03:37:28 PM
Guys. We finishing spoiling less than 9 hours ago. For 5 of that I slept, 3 had real life things to do.  I am now wading thru all the incoming info and pics and vids from multiple sources to see what exactly we do and don't have. Then the team will share in any info as always.

No decisions have been made about anything except not spoiling the final 3 finish order as we usually do not. IF we have it, which I don't think we do.
Oval, please make some message room so we can talk. Thanks!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 05:00:49 PM
I was looking thru the tar30 tag on twitter and this acc popped up recently, i snapped a pic , the acc got locked right away whatever that means. If they are telling the truth it has got me really excited to hear what happened and watch the season finale!!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM70Y_NV4AE9SYG.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
I was looking thru the tar30 tag on twitter and this acc popped up recently, i snapped a pic , the acc got locked right away whatever that means. If they are telling the truth it has got me really excited to hear what happened and watch the season finale!!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM70Y_NV4AE9SYG.jpg)

The account is restricted because enough users reported it for violating Twitter's terms. It's a newly created account posting "spoilers." I don't know how much more obvious of a troll account it can be.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sox15 on October 24, 2017, 05:43:27 PM
Well, they flew out of Oakland.

They started this leg in SF at a sports stadium, the hints we were given was that the location "wasn't close."

Maybe they ended it in the Oakland stadium?  That would be EASY to close off from fans/TAR hunters as well.

Oakland's just a short drive across the Bay Bridge from San Francisco. I think she flew out of Oakland airport for flight convenience or a cheaper rate than that of SFO.

Depends on traffic, but yes, it's a ways away.  17 miles but across the bay, google maps says 34 minutes.

Why can't we know the location?  I don't get it.

17 miles from San Francisco City Hall:  Muir Beach (Marin County), Tiburon/Belvedere (Marin County)...Tiburon would be awesome...night time view of the SF skyline and the Golden Gate Bridge lit at night?  But then again, there is the fog element.
 Haha Hmmm...Pacifica State Beach?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 24, 2017, 05:43:44 PM
First time following the race live on this forum. Started due to wanting to get updates on Cody/Jess  since it was also my first time watching live feeds on BB19 and became a fan of theirs from that, and now really loved following here for TAR updates on all of the teams. Can’t wait to watch the show to see all of the tasks the teams did that we saw just little bits of info on and the ones we don’t know. And see what happened with each team to get eliminated. Thanks everyone for all of the updates and anylizing.  Will definitely follow here again in the future :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
The brian guy who reportred jody in the first place weeks before the race started just tweeted this then deleted it quickly.  :bunny woooooot
(https://ton.twitter.com/1.1/ton/data/dm/922957505256460292/922957495122894848/sUagov2d.jpg:large)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dogshout on October 24, 2017, 05:54:01 PM
The brian guy who reportred jody in the first place weeks before the race started just tweeted this then deleted it quickly.  :bunny woooooot
(https://ton.twitter.com/1.1/ton/data/dm/922957505256460292/922957495122894848/sUagov2d.jpg:large)
tweeted what?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodyfan on October 24, 2017, 05:56:04 PM
He tweeted something like, I know something you don't know #tar30
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 05:58:56 PM
The reporter? CBS really should penalize him. Like wtf
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 06:00:03 PM
The reporter? CBS really should penalize him. Like wtf

ya he should be fired lol, but I actually am starting to wonder if Jody came back and won.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 06:04:12 PM
The reporter? CBS really should penalize him. Like wtf

to be fair he could be talking about totally something else. like one of them being asked on another show.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 06:06:53 PM

Depends on traffic, but yes, it's a ways away.  17 miles but across the bay, google maps says 34 minutes.

Why can't we know the location?  I don't get it.

17 miles from San Francisco City Hall:  Muir Beach (Marin County), Tiburon/Belvedere (Marin County)...Tiburon would be awesome...night time view of the SF skyline and the Golden Gate Bridge lit at night?  But then again, there is the fog element.
 Haha Hmmm...Pacifica State Beach?
I don't think Seastars was referring to the Finish Line as being 17 miles away. Just that Oakland airport is 17 miles from San Francisco Maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 06:07:15 PM
The reporter? CBS really should penalize him. Like wtf

to be fair he could be talking about totally something else. like one of them being asked on another show.

ya or they got engaged on the show or something like that, but him deleting it makes it even more suspicious.

I am assuming they are doing closing interviews today? 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:10:23 PM
The brian guy who reportred jody in the first place weeks before the race started just tweeted this then deleted it quickly.  :bunny woooooot
(https://ton.twitter.com/1.1/ton/data/dm/922957505256460292/922957495122894848/sUagov2d.jpg:large)

This is worded in a very confusing way. To clarify, a reporter who works for The Hollywood Reporter tweeted that Jody were going to be on TAR before there was press release/confirmed to the public. He later deleted that tweet. Today, that same reporter tweeted something cryptic along the lines of "I guess I should say that I know something you don't know" with the hashtags #TAR30 #BB19. I wouldn't necessarily assume that that implies he knows Jody won.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 06:11:49 PM
The reporter? CBS really should penalize him. Like wtf

to be fair he could be talking about totally something else. like one of them being asked on another show.

ya or they got engaged on the show or something like that, but him deleting it makes it even more suspicious.

I am assuming they are doing closing interviews today?

your guess at cody possibly proposing at the finish line is a good one it could totally be something like that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 06:12:48 PM
The brian guy who reportred jody in the first place weeks before the race started just tweeted this then deleted it quickly.  :bunny woooooot
(https://ton.twitter.com/1.1/ton/data/dm/922957505256460292/922957495122894848/sUagov2d.jpg:large)

This is worded in a very confusing way. To clarify, a reporter who works for The Hollywood Reporter tweeted that Jody were going to be on TAR before there was press release/confirmed to the public. He later deleted that tweet. Today, that same reporter tweeted something cryptic along the lines of "I guess I should say that I know something you don't know" with the hashtags #TAR30 #BB19. I wouldn't necessarily assume that he implied that he knows Jody won.

He is the interviewer.. He would know if they won or lost..  Not saying that is what he is referring to but He would know.

There are very few things he could have been talking about, the only other thing I could think of is engagement.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 06:13:39 PM
Or he just wants more Twitter followers and doesn't know a single thing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 06:15:42 PM
Or he just wants more Twitter followers and doesn't know a single thing.

no he does learn things before they air. He toured and interviewed weeks before the bb season started. Im excited whatever it is.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 24, 2017, 06:22:28 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 06:25:18 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.

Of Course they do.. This guy also knew Jody was going to be on the show weeks before it was supposed to be announced and spoiled/deleted it the exact same way.

He seems like he just gets super excited when he hears something and posts it immedatly until he realizes he isn't allowed to spoil than quickly backtracks and deletes..

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:25:30 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.

I'm sure certain reporters are told at some point, but the finale ended not 24 hours ago.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 06:25:39 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.
he is close with jody, and yes he is a major reporter for cbs and would get the scoop ahead of time
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 24, 2017, 06:27:00 PM
He could also be referring to knowing who was called for 31 because I remember reading something preshow about it being potentially returnees before this season started  :sab
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:27:17 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.

Of Course they do.. This guy also knew Jody was going to be on the show weeks before it was supposed to be announced and spoiled/deleted it the exact same way.

He seems like he just gets super excited when he hears something and posts it immedatly until he realizes he isn't allowed to spoil than quickly backtracks and deletes..

A lot of people knew Jody were going on TAR. Even some of the BB19 cast knew ahead of time. I think there's a distinction between knowing who the cast is and knowing who the winner is.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 06:28:19 PM
He could also be referring to knowing who was called for 31 because I remember reading something preshow about it being potentially returnees before this season started  :sab

i wouldnt be surprised if 31 was allstars and they were asked back like brenchels was.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 06:29:03 PM
31?!  :funny:
*insert Jim Mora "Playoffs?!?!" rant*
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:31:59 PM
 :didimiss: BTW he doesn't work for CBS. He's employed by The Hollywood Reporter and covers other shows, networks, and media.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
I lowkey hope the taxi error was as good as charla and mirna's flipout. "take our money!!"  :funny:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZjtRlWNr-90
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 24, 2017, 06:33:54 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.

I'm sure certain reporters are told at some point, but the finale ended not 24 hours ago.

Exactly. It seems nutso for anyone to know anything yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 06:34:10 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.

I'm sure certain reporters are told at some point, but the finale ended not 24 hours ago.

it ended in california.. The guy lives in cali, Jody lives in Cali.  Not saying he knows they won but he knows something.  It could be an engagement.

TO say he is just trying to troll by quickly tweeting out something exciting and deleting it is just not a good theory.. 

Trolls do that, not established reporters.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 24, 2017, 06:34:22 PM
:didimiss: BTW he doesn't work for CBS. He's employed by The Hollywood Reporter and covers other shows, networks, and media.

if you belive that is hilarious. he is covering his tail backtracking. doesnt wnt to get in trouble which i dont blame him.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:36:09 PM
:didimiss: BTW he doesn't work for CBS. He's employed by The Hollywood Reporter and covers other shows, networks, and media.

if you belive that is hilarious. he is covering his tail backtracking. doesnt wnt to get in trouble which i dont blame him.

That's hilarious? I'm still waiting on the proof of your claim that Jody won an Express Pass. That was you, right?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 24, 2017, 06:38:00 PM
Brian and the hollywood reporter was the one big newsite that had the interview with Jody before starting amazing race..

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/amazing-race-big-brothers-jessica-graf-cody-nickson-joining-1043557

This was like the only interview that was done.. TO act like it couldn't be possible he would know anything is just dumb.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 24, 2017, 06:38:51 PM
Does an Express pass even matter anymore  :funny:

Also Brian is backtracking hard now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:39:36 PM
Surely reporters aren't told the outcome of the show? Especially when it just ended yesterday.

I bet he's just trying to get attention.

I'm sure certain reporters are told at some point, but the finale ended not 24 hours ago.

it ended in california.. The guy lives in cali, Jody lives in Cali.  Not saying he knows they won but he knows something.  It could be an engagement.

TO say he is just trying to troll by quickly tweeting out something exciting and deleting it is just not a good theory.. 

Trolls do that, not established reporters.

What's the significance of where the finale took place, where Jody lives (just Jessica btw), and where the reporter lives? He works in entertainment, so of course he lives in Los Angeles. My point is to exercise caution -- not everything is a hint of who won TAR, particularly not everything is a hint that Jody won TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Does an Express pass even matter anymore  :funny:

No, the race is over so obviously not. The point is that user has a record of posting claims in favor of Jody with little to no substantiation since the start of the race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 24, 2017, 06:43:48 PM


Also Brian is backtracking hard now.

How are you characterizing that he's backtracking "hard" now? He simply posted one reply claiming that was a joke.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 06:52:30 PM
Well, they flew out of Oakland.

They started this leg in SF at a sports stadium, the hints we were given was that the location "wasn't close."

Maybe they ended it in the Oakland stadium?  That would be EASY to close off from fans/TAR hunters as well.

Oakland's just a short drive across the Bay Bridge from San Francisco. I think she flew out of Oakland airport for flight convenience or a cheaper rate than that of SFO.

Why can't we know the location?  I don't get it. 
Let's just say that confidential sources are being protected, and leave it at that, OK?
Peach will say something when the possibility of exposing any sources are non-existence. Those are valuable to have, and shouldn't be tossed. (And no, I don't know where or what those are, but I am speaking generally since we've been through this now about 30 times.)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2017, 07:01:47 PM
Let's just say that confidential sources are being protected, and leave it at that, OK?
Peach will say something when the possibility of exposing any sources are non-existence. Those are valuable to have, and shouldn't be tossed. (And no, I don't know where or what those are, but I am speaking generally since we've been through this now about 30 times.)
She thanked the people who followed the teams around last night by name. And revealed every single location and task except simply the location of the finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Beki on October 24, 2017, 07:04:29 PM
Hi new poster here. Just a thought... people have said that the last 3 teams at the airport was an equalizer. Maybe not. If a team arrives at an airport early enough they can go to the currency exchange to turn their left over money into US dollars. I never have done this and don't know how long it takes, but it would certainly give a team extra cash for the taxis.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 24, 2017, 07:14:02 PM
Welcome to RFF, Beki! :waves:
All teams can exchange their money before the flight, though. There was plenty of time I think.
What we mean by saying 'equalizer' is that all teams reach the finale city and start racing at the same time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Beki on October 24, 2017, 07:18:45 PM
I understand they are all equal when they land, but if a team didn't have time to exchange their money it would put them at a disadvantage if extra money was needed.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 07:36:45 PM
I understand they are all equal when they land, but if a team didn't have time to exchange their money it would put them at a disadvantage if extra money was needed.

If this is about not paying the taxi drivers, the two teams involved probably forgot to pay. It's common to ask the cabbie to wait. They probably thought it would be needed to go from the Final Memory Challenge to the finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 24, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
Let's just say that confidential sources are being protected, and leave it at that, OK?
Peach will say something when the possibility of exposing any sources are non-existence. Those are valuable to have, and shouldn't be tossed. (And no, I don't know where or what those are, but I am speaking generally since we've been through this now about 30 times.)

She thanked the people who followed the teams around last night by name. And revealed every single location and task except simply the location of the finish line.

There may be others who provided tips and who were deliberately not mentioned or acknowledged and these could have been beforehand. This is nothing new for TAR. There have been seasons where the final mat location was not spoiled here because no one actually saw and posted about it on social media; which is increasingly likely the case this time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 24, 2017, 10:46:00 PM
also since peach unbanned me..(guess she didn't want me posting spoilers last night?.. how sad)

I'll respect her wishes and not expose 2 much but to correct a few things
1. skiers were ahead at city hall by like 5 min ahead of jody/debaters who showed up at same time, but jody left before debaters
2. missing a solid hour and a half of competition.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 24, 2017, 10:52:56 PM
I was literally there

Debaters got to city hall before Jody
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 24, 2017, 11:02:02 PM
I was literally there

Debaters got to city hall before Jody

Peach said that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 24, 2017, 11:07:39 PM
I was literally there

Debaters got to city hall before Jody
I didn't say they didn't. I said they left before them
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: graytex on October 24, 2017, 11:09:27 PM
Like DavidJunior, I was there and this is completely false.  The order of teams is wrong and the times are wrong. 

also since peach unbanned me..(guess she didn't want me posting spoilers last night?.. how sad)

I'll respect her wishes and not expose 2 much but to correct a few things
1. skiers were ahead at city hall by like 5 min ahead of jody/debaters who showed up at same time, but jody left before debaters
2. missing a solid hour and a half of competition.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 24, 2017, 11:11:34 PM
then can you share the accurate times??

is it at least true that there was another hour of competition???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 24, 2017, 11:19:39 PM
Like DavidJunior, I was there and this is completely false.  The order of teams is wrong and the times are wrong.  This is why Peach blocked you.

also since peach unbanned me..(guess she didn't want me posting spoilers last night?.. how sad)

I'll respect her wishes and not expose 2 much but to correct a few things
1. skiers were ahead at city hall by like 5 min ahead of jody/debaters who showed up at same time, but jody left before debaters
2. missing a solid hour and a half of competition.

sure.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: supermom on October 24, 2017, 11:51:19 PM
Being new to this forum, I just find it so comical that all these people have been chasing the teams around the world to spoil every single leg of the race. We get to the end and radio silent. Not just for the actual running to the mat but the task spoilers for this last leg. People who were supposedly "there" will not clarify what they saw even though there is enough of yesterday to talk about that wouldn't even give away the winner if that is the sole purpose. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I just find it obtuse. Others have posted on Twitter and such who won and they claim they were there also yet this forum is supposed to be the place to discuss and "spoil" everything we know and now, the last leg and we are not allowed to during or after? RFF supposedly has members and "ground crew" that were physically there and now won't share what they know? It's just simply comical to me. "Hey guys out there in the world give us all your pics, tell us who you saw, where, when, what order, omg thanks, we will post it with great big credits in photo". "BTW, cast and crew if you want to drop me a DM and give me all your secrets that's cool too and I promise I won't give up my source but I will spoil it for America" lol. RFF wants everyone to contribute to their forum but when those helping and contributing want something in return, it's a great big NO. Our rules, our way or the highway. Yeah, yeah I know I won't be popular after this post but come on isn't this a little silly? Yes, I know Peach will let you know what Peach wants you to know because hey it's "Peach" or the flippin Wizard of Oz idk. I got it and that's perfectly fine but Peach wouldn't have all the RFF spoilers if it weren't for the general public that helped along the way. I know who won and I also know what order they won in. I had live info to share yesterday yet we weren't allowed to share it. Was ridiculous to me that I had been following all this time only to be told I am not allowed to post anything because now all the control belonged to a single person and their sources only. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted but fair is fair. Peace out people.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jodystan23 on October 25, 2017, 12:05:54 AM
Being new to this forum, I just find it so comical that all these people have been chasing the teams around the world to spoil every single leg of the race. We get to the end and radio silent. Not just for the actual running to the mat but the task spoilers for this last leg. People who were supposedly "there" will not clarify what they saw even though there is enough of yesterday to talk about that wouldn't even give away the winner if that is the sole purpose. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I just find it obtuse. Others have posted on Twitter and such who won and they claim they were there also yet this forum is supposed to be the place to discuss and "spoil" everything we know and now, the last leg and we are not allowed to during or after? RFF supposedly has members and "ground crew" that were physically there and now won't share what they know? It's just simply comical to me. "Hey guys out there in the world give us all your pics, tell us who you saw, where, when, what order, omg thanks, we will post it with great big credits in photo". "BTW, cast and crew if you want to drop me a DM and give me all your secrets that's cool too and I promise I won't give up my source but I will spoil it for America" lol. RFF wants everyone to contribute to their forum but when those helping and contributing want something in return, it's a great big NO. Our rules, our way or the highway. Yeah, yeah I know I won't be popular after this post but come on isn't this a little silly? Yes, I know Peach will let you know what Peach wants you to know because hey it's "Peach" or the flippin Wizard of Oz idk. I got it and that's perfectly fine but Peach wouldn't have all the RFF spoilers if it weren't for the general public that helped along the way. I know who won and I also know what order they won in. I had live info to share yesterday yet we weren't allowed to share it. Was ridiculous to me that I had been following all this time only to be told I am not allowed to post anything because now all the control belonged to a single person and their sources only. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted but fair is fair. Peace out people.
you should make a Twitter. they can't stop you from sharing there.  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 25, 2017, 12:22:06 AM
Sure, you had someone who was updating you from a restricted area with only one access point that was guarded by security  :res:

It would either have to be someone on production with really loose lips and 0% fear of being fired/fined or some crazy super secret ninja to be able to find a spot that they could go unnoticed there

Either that or your claims are BS

But, what do I know? I was just one of those dummies that was “there”
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 25, 2017, 12:38:08 AM
Don't really look into this but it seems like Indy, Jody and Skiers are all good with each other and follow each other on Instagram.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DontKillMe on October 25, 2017, 12:51:27 AM
Don't really look into this but it seems like Indy, Jody and Skiers are all good with each other and follow each other on Instagram.
does that mean all 3 teams empathize with each other that none won the amazing race! Just kidding. It can mean anything and nothing. Maybe they were companions all throughout. Who knows ? We'll only get to know about all this when the season airs.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 25, 2017, 12:54:10 AM
it means they can put the competition behind them now that the race is over and be friends, whether they were friends during the race or not.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 25, 2017, 12:55:06 AM
it means they can put the competition behind them now that the race is over and be friends, whether they were friends during the race or not.

Yup, I expect more of the teams to follow each other. They've had access to social media for less than 24 hours.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 25, 2017, 01:50:43 AM
Don't really look into this but it seems like Indy, Jody and Skiers are all good with each other and follow each other on Instagram.

That's something that happens most of the time with the teams once season is over. For instance if you look into the IG of the racers from last season you'll see that each of them is following various members of the cast.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 25, 2017, 02:23:20 AM
Don't really look into this but it seems like Indy, Jody and Skiers are all good with each other and follow each other on Instagram.
Three of the F4, right?  Could've been friends as well as allies during the race.  Maybe made plans to go to the F3 together but for the Roadblock that took Alex & Connor down.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: NumfarPTB on October 25, 2017, 02:33:24 AM
Has a team, which was trailing 3rd for 2/3rd of the final leg of the amazing race, won at the end ?

Yes, TAR21, if I'm not mistaken. All due to the final memory challenge.
A well designed memory challenge can actually shift placements around, before the finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Zack. on October 25, 2017, 04:56:09 AM
re: social media following-

I don't think this is as much of an indicator as is it with Survivor since there's less "direct" targeting of people and less time spent together on TAR. I'd keep an eye if teams don't follow each other once the season starts airing since THAT is usually a sign of something happening between teams.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 25, 2017, 08:19:13 AM
Sorry, but I'm calling bull**** on not sharing the final location because "it might jeopardize a source!"

They were in San Francisco, downtown San Francisco.  They got into cabs, as people do every single day and night in San Francisco, because cabs are everywhere downtown and really, through much of the city.  The racers probably had special cabs that had already signed non disclosure stuff and releases.  However ANY of the people watching them in Chinatown, City Hall, etc, could have easily jumped into a cab with the instructions "Follow that cab!" and know where the racers went for the finale.

ANYONE. 

In addition, apparently 5-10 "special" posters know, not only the location, but also who didn't pay their cab.  The rest of us?  Tough on you guys!  We know something you don't know!  Hee Hee.

So, no, not buying it, and frankly it feels pretty junior high clique.

No one is asking you about who won, which apparently you couldn't see, so enclosed location of some sort with easily secured entrances, which is why I guessed the Oakland stadium rather than a park or beach or something in Marin county, or the south bay...although there is another stadium in the south bay now, so maybe there?  They flew out of Oakland, not San Jose though, so Oakland makes sense.  Treasure Island also fits, but the coy hint was dropped that it was "far" and Treasure Island isn't.  They took cabs, so not Alcatraz, unless the ferry or boat is also being withheld, ditto Angel Island. 

However, if you are withholding the boat information, either is possible, and you could have still seen the cabs on shore waiting to be paid.

Anyway, this all feels like bull**** to me.  They were TOO easily followed, by car or cab, to be protecting "sources" about a LOCATION. 

My two cents, and yes, I am annoyed and frustrated by what appears to be dissembling explanation.
I've enjoyed this board for years, joining only this year, and I appreciate so much of what you all do here.  Right now though?  Not so much.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 25, 2017, 09:25:04 AM
Did David Junior & Peach not ask us to be patient? Why must everyone need to know...RIGHT.THIS.MINUTE? They have already said the location of the finish line was secluded and guarded. Therefore, even if they wanted to, nobody can say with 100% accuracy the final placements. Even knowing the identities of the two teams who forgot to pay their cabs will not confirm anything...you can only speculate.

How many times must people be told the reason why RFF does not reveal the final placements?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 25, 2017, 09:27:59 AM
Well, speculating and looking for spoilers is just a fun part of Amazing Race for me.     I figure, not my board, not my rules. Some are taking this way too seriously, lets not suck the fun out it.. :) :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 25, 2017, 09:37:14 AM
Did David Junior & Peach not ask us to be patient? Why must everyone need to know...RIGHT.THIS.MINUTE? They have already said the location of the finish line was secluded and guarded. Therefore, even if they wanted to, nobody can say with 100% accuracy the final placements. Even knowing the identities of the two teams who forgot to pay their cabs will not confirm anything...you can only speculate.

How many times must people be told the reason why RFF does not reveal the final placements?

Location.  Just the location.  We already know and easily accept they will not spoil the winner, even if they did know it.

I suppose if it was Angel Island or Alcatraz and there was fog over the bay they might not have been able to see which island the boat/ferry landed on.  That is the place where a "source" might come into play.

I lived there for many years, following a cab or grabbing one to follow them would have been very easy, and some may have even had their own car around.  Whatever.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 25, 2017, 10:15:41 AM
There really is no legit reason why the final location can't be revealed.

It's as simple as typing:
FINISH LINE LOCATION

No "source" compromised, no Race "integrity" lost. No need for a second-by-second account of events. It's just a location of an event that happened 30 hours ago and all the people involved have been comfortably resting in their own homes away from the Bay Area.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 25, 2017, 10:19:55 AM
There really is no legit reason why the final location can't be revealed.

It's as simple as typing:
FINISH LINE LOCATION

No "source" compromised, no Race "integrity" lost. No need for a second-by-second account of events. It's just a location of an event that happened 30 hours ago and all the people involved have been comfortably resting in their own homes away from the Bay Area.

Agreed. It's ridiculous to even just be waiting for the Finish Line, it's not like we're hammering for F3 results lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 25, 2017, 10:23:41 AM
The clues r out there of who won, pretty easy to see. Either way I'm pumped to watch this season out compared to what we saw on the spoilers each leg to see how they edit it.
 :conf:

Jody and he Indy seem to be good friends now and I hope bb asks Indy to go on their next season those boys were ROBBED by those Yale debaters   :sab
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: LibertyLove08 on October 25, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
I’m sure Peach needed some rest after the 21 day journey and that final nite even I was up until 3am.
I just keep checking and waiting for those pictures & videos from the finals in SF she said would come later. No rush Peach, just checking & hope you are feeling well.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 25, 2017, 10:29:24 AM
I mean if no one knows the finish line location then say so. If it's "you're all being annoying so I'm going to keep this secret forevah!" Then you can say that too. But withholding the finish line location like it's some kind of matter of national security or something? It's like Trump signing off on the release of the JFK documents or something.  :wtf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 25, 2017, 11:02:33 AM
I think the skiers/jody/indy had a final 3 deal because they r all following eachother on social medias. No yale  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 25, 2017, 11:03:13 AM
Raiders.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 25, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
They're all back on social media now. I like Conor Daly's explanation for his month-long absence "I got lost in an IKEA" :lol:

The other teams besides Jody would not be allowed to talk about even being on the race yet.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 25, 2017, 11:21:35 AM
They're all back on social media now. I like Conor Daly's explanation for his month-long absence "I got lost in an IKEA" :lol:

The other teams besides Jody would not be allowed to talk about even being on the race yet.

the whole world knows they were on it, amazing race advertised the starting line i dont think they would get in trouble saying they were filming lol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 25, 2017, 11:28:47 AM
They would.
Jessica & Cody were the only team announced officially as competitors on this season.
Others were not, unlike for seasons 25 and 28, when the entire cast was announced once the race began.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 25, 2017, 11:29:22 AM
It's like Trump signing off on the release of the JFK documents or something.  :wtf:
I think you figured it out. The finish line was on the grassy knoll.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 25, 2017, 11:37:45 AM
I heard this season starts in Feb.. Is that confirmed or just a rumor?  I just don't want it to take 8 months to air like season 29 did.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 25, 2017, 11:43:29 AM
Raiders.  :)

Is this a final location hint? 

Disney on Ice had a final show on the evening of the 23rd at the Oracle. The DOI venue contract would have specified venue access for X number of hours for load out and AEG staff would then "turn" the venue from ice to BB court for a game today.  Even with non-disclosures that is a lot of traffic and eyes around for a TAR setup at the Coliseum. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 25, 2017, 11:45:51 AM
conor from the indy team commented on jess ig pic saying "our favorite team" whatever that means.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 25, 2017, 11:51:29 AM
Just talked with Peach

She said more info IS coming soon

She is working on compiling a detailed and accurate timeline of events (likely including final location), but she's wading through a lot of pics and info still

We're just asking for a little more patience and grace until we have ALL the info properly compiled

Believe me, we want to share with you guys, I just want to follow the protocol and Peach's leading with it- she wants to share too, when she feels it's right to

I will say it was 100% NOT Oakland Coliseum (or O.CO Arena, for that matter), since some people seem to be really pushing that :res:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 25, 2017, 12:12:57 PM
They would.
Jessica & Cody were the only team announced officially as competitors on this season.
Others were not, unlike for seasons 25 and 28, when the entire cast was announced once the race began.
TAR27 also right? Both 25 and 27 Starting Lines, which is why it was strange there was no official team press release this time. Though CBS likely doesn't care enough to go through the effort.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 25, 2017, 12:36:14 PM
conor from the indy team commented on jess ig pic saying "our favorite team" whatever that means.
Just an opinion, but these teams were all together a lot these past few weeks. Who knows who became friends, who joked around, bickered or bantered back and forth while competing. There may be inside jokes that only they would all know about. Wouldn’t read too much into what they say to each other now that the game is over
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: graytex on October 25, 2017, 12:55:13 PM
I have also spoken to Peach and am following her lead.  But I can tell you that when I talked to her, we were both still recovering from being up all night and needed a break.  As for protecting sources, this is very important.  Sometimes people with non-disclosure agreements let info slip and we don't want them hurt.  Plus, Peach does not want to do anything that will damage the show or the final outcome.  We spoil, but we're still big fans and want the show to continue.

Peach will tell the final mat location soon, but she wants to do it the right way, and with love for the show.  DavidJunior and I, and the others that were helping that night, will add details when she reveals the location.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 25, 2017, 12:55:20 PM
conor from the indy team commented on jess ig pic saying "our favorite team" whatever that means.
Just an opinion, but these teams were all together a lot these past few weeks. Who knows who became friends, who joked around, bickered or bantered back and forth while competing. There may be inside jokes that only they would all know about. Wouldn’t read too much into what they say to each other now that the game is over

if that was the case they would follow everyone from the race.

they only followed eachother they must have been close or had an alliance.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 25, 2017, 12:58:41 PM
Just talked with Peach

She said more info IS coming soon

She is working on compiling a detailed and accurate timeline of events (likely including final location), but she's wading through a lot of pics and info still

We're just asking for a little more patience and grace until we have ALL the info properly compiled

Believe me, we want to share with you guys, I just want to follow the protocol and Peach's leading with it- she wants to share too, when she feels it's right to

I will say it was 100% NOT Oakland Coliseum (or O.CO Arena, for that matter), since some people seem to be really pushing that :res:

Thank you David! And if I didn't say before, Thank You & your crew so very much for your efforts!  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 25, 2017, 01:13:54 PM
conor from the indy team commented on jess ig pic saying "our favorite team" whatever that means.
Just an opinion, but these teams were all together a lot these past few weeks. Who knows who became friends, who joked around, bickered or bantered back and forth while competing. There may be inside jokes that only they would all know about. Wouldn’t read too much into what they say to each other now that the game is over

if that was the case they would follow everyone from the race.

they only followed eachother they must have been close or had an alliance.

lol both Indy drivers are following the Ring Girls, too. Do you think THEY had an alliance as well? These people have been back on social media for, what, < a day and a half? You think they're gonna immediately spend time searching for every racer on social media to follow or perhaps recuperate and get in contact with their loved ones first?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 25, 2017, 01:15:42 PM
conor from the indy team commented on jess ig pic saying "our favorite team" whatever that means.
Just an opinion, but these teams were all together a lot these past few weeks. Who knows who became friends, who joked around, bickered or bantered back and forth while competing. There may be inside jokes that only they would all know about. Wouldn’t read too much into what they say to each other now that the game is over

if that was the case they would follow everyone from the race.

they only followed eachother they must have been close or had an alliance.

lol both Indy drivers are following the Ring Girls, too. Do you think THEY had an alliance as well? These people have been back on social media for, what, < a day and a half? You think they're gonna immediately spend time searching for every racer on social media to follow or perhaps recuperate and get in contact with their loved ones first?
All I'm saying is we have photographic proof of Jody and Indy working together.  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: nurseykins on October 25, 2017, 01:26:34 PM
I have also spoken to Peach and am following her lead.  But I can tell you that when I talked to her, we were both still recovering from being up all night and needed a break.  As for protecting sources, this is very important.  Sometimes people with non-disclosure agreements let info slip and we don't want them hurt.  Plus, Peach does not want to do anything that will damage the show or the final outcome.  We spoil, but we're still big fans and want the show to continue.

Peach will tell the final mat location soon, but she wants to do it the right way, and with love for the show.  DavidJunior and I, and the others that were helping that night, will add details when she reveals the location.

The race is over.  There is no damaging the final outcome.  Lmfao!  I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 25, 2017, 01:28:32 PM
One/two photos of teams together at a task do not confirm any alliance :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 25, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
conor from the indy team commented on jess ig pic saying "our favorite team" whatever that means.
Just an opinion, but these teams were all together a lot these past few weeks. Who knows who became friends, who joked around, bickered or bantered back and forth while competing. There may be inside jokes that only they would all know about. Wouldn’t read too much into what they say to each other now that the game is over

if that was the case they would follow everyone from the race.

they only followed eachother they must have been close or had an alliance.

lol both Indy drivers are following the Ring Girls, too. Do you think THEY had an alliance as well? These people have been back on social media for, what, < a day and a half? You think they're gonna immediately spend time searching for every racer on social media to follow or perhaps recuperate and get in contact with their loved ones first?

We can all guess why they're following the ring girls ...  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 25, 2017, 02:02:51 PM
I heard this season starts in Feb.. Is that confirmed or just a rumor?  I just don't want it to take 8 months to air like season 29 did.

I wouldn't be surprised because Celebrity Big Brother is starting around that time so maybe since Jess and Cody were on TAR30, it will be on together. It might not be a bad thing if they did that because BB gets great ratings and could give TAR30 a push if they were on back to back.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 25, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
I heard this season starts in Feb.. Is that confirmed or just a rumor?  I just don't want it to take 8 months to air like season 29 did.

I wouldn't be surprised because Celebrity Big Brother is starting around that time so maybe since Jess and Cody were on TAR30, it will be on together. It might not be a bad thing if they did that because BB gets great ratings and could give TAR30 a push if they were on back to back.

ya I would bet money on either Feb or March.. I wonder if season 29 took so long to air because it was originally expected to air in Sept (keeping up with 2 per year) but had to get pushed back months since they are now only doing 1 per year.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on October 25, 2017, 02:24:38 PM
Season 29 took wayyyyy to long to air. Their premiere was set for the end of April! At least they moved it to March but then it was on at 10pm which didn't help ratings at all. Hopefully they are on at 8pm or 9pm so that they bring people back
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 25, 2017, 02:25:43 PM
I wonder if season 29 took so long to air because it was originally expected to air in Sept (keeping up with 2 per year) but had to get pushed back months since they are now only doing 1 per year.

TAR29 took so long to air because CBS renewed it as a benchwarmer. It was never going to air in September since CBS gave the show's slot to MacGyver. The show was picked up and would be held until the network needed to fill a timeslot, whether it was a canceled show (which it eventually did) or once MacGyver completed its season run in April (which was original schedule plan announced in November).
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on October 25, 2017, 02:27:21 PM
Also there are several groups with built in fanbases: the NBA players, the Indy guys, and probably smaller the skiers, the eaters, Jess and Cody.

Although, are these skiers still competing? I wonder if this will air around the time of the Winter Olympics?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 25, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
GUYS.

JUST STOP.

WE ALL HAVE REAL LIFE RESPONSIBILITIES.

WE ARE ALL EXHAUSTED.

I for one am ill. 6 Hours of sleep in 60 hours will do that to you.

The rest of the info will come WHEN we have as team reviewed what we have and confirm all the details. We want accuracy, not speed.

I don't want to see any more about this. It will come when OUR TEAM is done. Not before..

I HOPE that will be by tomorrow, but no guarantees.

I really don't want to come on here hoping to see intelligent discussion about the race (ON TOPIC maybe?) and read a bunch of whining.

So please...go do something else. And stop complaining when you have NO idea what is involved.

The RFF team worked their butts off for you. What happened to : Great job, guys! Thank you so much! We appreciate your efforts?

Chill Pills all around!

AND NO MORE. Go complain somewhere else.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Joberio on October 25, 2017, 05:42:38 PM
The clues r out there of who won, pretty easy to see.
Because you want them to be clues that Cody & Jessica won?  We don't know who won, and that won't change till the season airs.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Calibound2 on October 25, 2017, 05:49:10 PM
I feel like Jess and Cody didn’t win and that’s why we havnt heard anything.

SO MANY fans  of theirs showed interest in the show this season for them.. which was great!

And I think the powers that Be are worried that if the Jody fans find out they didn’t win, they won’t watch the show...

Which would ruin their plan of trying to gain viewers for the show this season to save it from being cancelled
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 25, 2017, 05:53:42 PM
We haven't heard anything because it was secluded and guarded. Production knew there were going to be many eyes watching, and they are pros at this after 30 seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 25, 2017, 05:56:38 PM
I feel like Jess and Cody didn’t win and that’s why we havnt heard anything.

SO MANY fans  of theirs showed interest in the show this season for them.. which was great!

And I think the powers that Be are worried that if the Jody fans find out they didn’t win, they won’t watch the show...

Which would ruin their plan of trying to gain viewers for the show this season to save it from being cancelled

um no?  Whether they won or not they made it all the way to the end and are gaurnteed to be on every episode.. Their fans will still watch regardless of the outcome.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Laaadedaa on October 25, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
WE ALL HAVE REAL LIFE RESPONSIBILITIES.


But I thought you “live at RFF”??  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on October 25, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
WE ALL HAVE REAL LIFE RESPONSIBILITIES.


But I thought you “live at RFF”??  :groan:

That still wouldn't negate having real life responsibilities, so try harder to come up with a coherent insult.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 25, 2017, 06:24:51 PM
Why is the finish line location or anything else so important to learn this very second??
The race is over. We're not tracking the racers anymore.
Just chill.

The info is there, but the people who have it will release it at their own pace.
What is the rush?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 25, 2017, 06:27:17 PM
Yeah, the waiting will make you more interested... so just be patient. They didn't even reveal the photos of teams running to the final mat in TAR 25 until the Leg 11 episode has aired...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 25, 2017, 07:44:26 PM
People aren't asking for rush delivery of photos and/or long essays describing in intricate, step-by-step, second-by-second detail of exactly what happened. Just for 1 or 2 or 3 words. The name of the Finish Line location.

It's not about photos or wanting to chase around teams or even wanting to know who won. It's just the name of some a place in the San Francisco Bay Area.

It's not going to compromise anyone or any thing. The Race results aren't going to change. No one is going to make or lose money off of it. Almost every other aspect of the finale, INCLUDING placement at what was described as the last Route Marker before the "final location" was posted LIVE in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Yet the location of the actual Finish Line, (read: a few words, a name. Not video evidence. Not an autobiography of the person who stood on the southeast corner of the location 10 years ago.) is being guarded like a national security secret using flimsy excuses that include things people aren't even asking for.

People would be more understanding if from the start it was "We won't post the Finish Line location to keep it a surprise for the airing." or "We want to sit on this RFF-exclusive information that no one else has as long as possible." Not this runaround and excuses of "we have to go through everything" as if the posting of the location required triangulating Bertram Van Munster's cellphone.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 25, 2017, 08:01:35 PM
OK, what am I missing? The race is over. What is the visceral need to know where the finish line was and know it right now?  Id love to see pics and such but Im lost in this finish line thing.. Again, maybe Im missing something.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 25, 2017, 09:41:26 PM
It's nice to have some finality, and it IS odd that we've had the Finish Line locations recently only for this year to be this closely guarded.

I agree with dryedmangoez.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 25, 2017, 09:50:20 PM
If I had to guess it has to be somewhere high up.

I still dont see anything in the past spoilers that would highlight phil telling them the fear of heights thing at the start line.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Realitytvfan on October 25, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
I forgot about Phil mentioning something about the fear of heights. Do you remember exactly what it was that he said?
Didn`t he also say something about a twist? What was that?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 25, 2017, 10:33:55 PM
I don’t have the time or energy right now to give this the fuller treatment it would deserve, but what if the one sourced information from a confidential source has to have an independently derived second source to use and confirm the original source? No matter how reliable and trustworthy the original source may be, one will want to preserve that original, ultra-reliable confidential for later and other use. Lawyers see this, law enforcement see this, journalists see this, investigators see this.
That is the reality of this. Back during Nixon’s time, Ben Bradley, then the Executive Editor, insisted of  Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein that any confidential information had to have two independent confirmed sources to any fact they reported. You can watch the film,”All The President’s Meet or read the source book to see how that works.
In any event, I believe we’re waiting for that reliable second source.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 25, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
They were THERE.  It was posted here that they weren't telling "for security."

"They" and subsequent statements make it obvious that several were there.

Also, as for "why do you want to know?"

Hello!  This is a fan SPOILER site, that's why we've been here all season, for exactly this.  Not for the winners, but at least for the location.  Tasks are a bonus. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Firestone on October 25, 2017, 11:16:21 PM
People aren't asking for rush delivery of photos and/or long essays describing in intricate, step-by-step, second-by-second detail of exactly what happened. Just for 1 or 2 or 3 words. The name of the Finish Line location.

It's not about photos or wanting to chase around teams or even wanting to know who won. It's just the name of some a place in the San Francisco Bay Area.

It's not going to compromise anyone or any thing. The Race results aren't going to change. No one is going to make or lose money off of it. Almost every other aspect of the finale, INCLUDING placement at what was described as the last Route Marker before the "final location" was posted LIVE in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Yet the location of the actual Finish Line, (read: a few words, a name. Not video evidence. Not an autobiography of the person who stood on the southeast corner of the location 10 years ago.) is being guarded like a national security secret using flimsy excuses that include things people aren't even asking for.

People would be more understanding if from the start it was "We won't post the Finish Line location to keep it a surprise for the airing." or "We want to sit on this RFF-exclusive information that no one else has as long as possible." Not this runaround and excuses of "we have to go through everything" as if the posting of the location required triangulating Bertram Van Munster's cellphone.

I couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Firestone on October 25, 2017, 11:18:44 PM
GUYS.

JUST STOP.

WE ALL HAVE REAL LIFE RESPONSIBILITIES.

WE ARE ALL EXHAUSTED.

I for one am ill. 6 Hours of sleep in 60 hours will do that to you.

The rest of the info will come WHEN we have as team reviewed what we have and confirm all the details. We want accuracy, not speed.

I don't want to see any more about this. It will come when OUR TEAM is done. Not before..

I HOPE that will be by tomorrow, but no guarantees.

I really don't want to come on here hoping to see intelligent discussion about the race (ON TOPIC maybe?) and read a bunch of whining.

So please...go do something else. And stop complaining when you have NO idea what is involved.

The RFF team worked their butts off for you. What happened to : Great job, guys! Thank you so much! We appreciate your efforts?

Chill Pills all around!

AND NO MORE. Go complain somewhere else.  :groan:

why will i ever thank u.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: coffeebean on October 25, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
Thanks to all that volunteer their time for our entertainment.
Can't wait to watch the season after following along with the TAR30 adventure.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 26, 2017, 12:25:40 AM
Welcome to RFF, coffeebean! :waves:
I can't wait to at least find out the premiere date. :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: sox15 on October 26, 2017, 12:37:31 AM
Thanks to all that volunteer their time for our entertainment.
Can't wait to watch the season after following along with the TAR30 adventure.

THANK YOU for even saying it.  I'm mostly a lurker here and I can't believe the ungrateful posters here who whine about not getting their spoilers or "withholding" information or whatever.  I think I've been following this page since Season 8?  You guys especially Georgia here at RFF do phenomenal investigative work!  Everything is so organized here.  I can wait for the information.  Oh and to whoever is whining about the location of the finish line?  It was in the San Francisco Bay Area...LOL  If you really need to know, why weren't you there following them?  It's not RFF's fault.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: aribb19 on October 26, 2017, 12:55:22 AM
Start using Imgur.com and Google Docs to share info. You'll get it out and organized quicker. Photobucket is ancient.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 26, 2017, 02:05:45 AM
I don’t have the time or energy right now to give this the fuller treatment it would deserve, but what if the one sourced information from a confidential source has to have an independently derived second source to use and confirm the original source? No matter how reliable and trustworthy the original source may be, one will want to preserve that original, ultra-reliable confidential for later and other use. Lawyers see this, law enforcement see this, journalists see this, investigators see this.
That is the reality of this. Back during Nixon’s time, Ben Bradley, then the Executive Editor, insisted of  Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein that any confidential information had to have two independent confirmed sources to any fact they reported. You can watch the film,”All The President’s Meet or read the source book to see how that works.
In any event, I believe we’re waiting for that reliable second source.


 :didimiss:  I wish I DID have confidential sources.


 :haha
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seamonkey on October 26, 2017, 02:48:24 AM
I certainly appreciate all you do here for TAR.   :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on October 26, 2017, 03:27:44 AM
i don't understand the obsession with the finish line. i mean, if Peach & teams said they need time then i will wait patiently. they must be exhausted and have other things to do in real life. I experienced that before when TAR visited Bali in season 22 & 28. back from work i directly went to the airport to catch the racers. arrived at home at 04.00 AM and then have to be at Tanah Lot when the racers released at at 06.00 AM, didn't have enough sleep. And Peach didn't force me to give the information that i had immediately. i appreciate the hard work of moderator & detectives here. Tbh i don't really care about the finish line
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: RealityFan11 on October 26, 2017, 09:46:10 AM
This is the fourth time they have had a finish line in San Francisco (TAR2, TAR11/All Stars, TAR16) and it isnt Los Angeles this time!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Fanfav21 on October 26, 2017, 11:16:07 AM
I forgot about Phil mentioning something about the fear of heights. Do you remember exactly what it was that he said?
Didn`t he also say something about a twist? What was that?

Maybe he was speaking figuratively... not literally
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: graytex on October 26, 2017, 01:05:48 PM
 :luvya:

i don't understand the obsession with the finish line. i mean, if Peach & teams said they need time then i will wait patiently. they must be exhausted and have other things to do in real life. I experienced that before when TAR visited Bali in season 22 & 28. back from work i directly went to the airport to catch the racers. arrived at home at 04.00 AM and then have to be at Tanah Lot when the racers released at at 06.00 AM, didn't have enough sleep. And Peach didn't force me to give the information that i had immediately. i appreciate the hard work of moderator & detectives here. Tbh i don't really care about the finish line
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Sourapple on October 26, 2017, 04:00:02 PM
I came to this forum at the begging of the season to follow the twins & they're in final 3 yay!!  But I've never registered to post until today.   I'm just confused as to why this is a spoiler site BUT WONT announce winners??  I've read they don't wanna spoil it for people who don't want to know, but in all fairness it says "spoiler" before you click on it SO if somebody comes to this site it's obviously for spoilers.   The ones that don't want to know will not even be here.  Is it because you don't really know??   I read you also said to protect sources, but how does that make sense?  You haven't protected sources all season so what's the difference now?  I feel like Twitter has broke more sources than here throughout the season.   I've saw posts of users upset because they saw the finale unfold (which have been deleted) BUT "georgiapeach" won't let them post or say anything about it. last I checked she doesn't own you go post it on Twitter or Facebook or wherever. I'd be dang if I did all that work for her just for her to tell me to keep my mouth shut!!!!  Seems like she treats some of you like slaves.  I know I'll get blocked & this post will be removed because that's what Peach has seemed to do all season if you don't agree with her way of thinking.   It's actually become a joke of a site & all you guys who abide by her rules look weak, if you have the ability to announce winner do it yourself instead of letting her stake claim.  Whoever owns Reality Fan Forum really needs to find someone else to run this because this season has been nothing short of a joke.  They find their info on twitter then post their name on it make it look like a Reality Fan Forum exclusive. There is so much wrong with this site. Goodbye for good if they get new people to run it I will be back but I will probably be banned anyways hahahaha
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 26, 2017, 04:13:10 PM
the twins got 6th place, they didn't make final 3 ^.

Final 3 was Ski girls, Jody, and Debate team.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 26, 2017, 04:18:33 PM
Twins went out way before the final 3.

Knowing the eventual winners ruins the fun and we have experienced that before.
There's no doubt people would keep discussing that information all over the place, even if it was posted in a separate thread or whatever. Especially with the new folk in town.
We've all seen how many times the mods tried to keep order around here. And they all failed. Because too many people don't care to learn how this board operates.

There's not really a discussion to be had over the reveal of winners, even if known.

It's also become pretty tiring how everyone keeps insinuating the 'protect sources' phrases.
The information that is yet to be revealed is in a few people's hands. You don't know what or who it concerns. I don't know.
It may be a special case that's forcing them to treat the info more carefully. It may be nothing special and they just haven't organised it yet.
So they will decide what to do when they wish. These repeated rants will surely not accelerate anything.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Sourapple on October 26, 2017, 04:27:14 PM
That's why I don't post, I word stuff wrong haha. I did come here for the twins & am team twins but I meant now they're DOWN to the final 3. That was a run on sentence I suppose. Oops. I am aware twins didn't make final 3 lol.  I've been following since the beginning & get information about every elimination down to final 3 then it stops and we get nothing and they say they won't announce winner?  Then what is the purpose of the forum?  It's like reading a good book that is missing the final chapter.  At least people on twitter acknowledge they don't know who won so if that's the case here they need to do the same





I came to this forum at the begging of the season to follow the twins & they're in final 3 yay!!  But I've never registered to post until today.   I'm just confused as to why this is a spoiler site BUT WONT announce winners??  I've read they don't wanna spoil it for people who don't want to know, but in all fairness it says "spoiler" before you click on it SO if somebody comes to this site it's obviously for spoilers.   The ones that don't want to know will not even be here.  Is it because you don't really know??   I read you also said to protect sources, but how does that make sense?  You haven't protected sources all season so what's the difference now?  I feel like Twitter has broke more sources than here throughout the season.   I've saw posts of users upset because they saw the finale unfold (which have been deleted) BUT "georgiapeach" won't let them post or say anything about it. last I checked she doesn't own you go post it on Twitter or Facebook or wherever. I'd be dang if I did all that work for her just for her to tell me to keep my mouth shut!!!!  Seems like she treats some of you like slaves.  I know I'll get blocked & this post will be removed because that's what Peach has seemed to do all season if you don't agree with her way of thinking.   It's actually become a joke of a site & all you guys who abide by her rules look weak, if you have the ability to announce winner do it yourself instead of letting her stake claim.  Whoever owns Reality Fan Forum really needs to find someone else to run this because this season has been nothing short of a joke.  They find their info on twitter then post their name on it make it look like a Reality Fan Forum exclusive. There is so much wrong with this site. Goodbye for good if they get new people to run it I will be back but I will probably be banned anyways hahahaha
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 26, 2017, 04:32:18 PM

...  I feel like Twitter has broke more sources than here throughout the season.   I've saw posts of users upset because they saw the finale unfold ... go post it on Twitter or Facebook or wherever.

I highlighted just part of your post to answer those points.

Yes, there was a lot of spoiling this season on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and other sites. A lot of this had to do with the pre-existing fanbase of Cody and Jessica (#TeamJody).  But have you seen much of the final leg spoiled on Twitter and elsewhere? No. And that is because RFF is the best at what they do.  This site is a compendium of information on TAR in all of its US and international versions, as well as Survivor, Big Brother and many other reality programs.

If you want to find out more about what happened on TAR30, including more information about the final leg, stay tuned to this channel. You won't be sorry you did.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 26, 2017, 04:36:11 PM
I thought I gave an explanation why the winners were never revealed on this forum. Whether we have them or not, it hasn't been done for many seasons.

The last chapter of this good book that you're talking about is what everyone wants to suspensefully watch unfold on TV.
If you're interested in who won, you'll have to search elsewhere.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Sourapple on October 26, 2017, 04:44:00 PM
I get what you're saying but then what is the purpose of this forum?  Might as well delete the word spoiler then.   The people who want to watch how the last chapter unfolds won't be on this spoiler forum I assure you that. Twitter is a different story, too many people can RT & the wrong person will come across it! You don't just accidentally stumble onto this forum for any other reason other than spoilers. 
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: itsjustme11 on October 26, 2017, 05:07:13 PM
Folks on this forum of fans of the show, not just a particular team. Searching and following then during the race is part of the fun and enjoyment of the show, Many follow and like to keep the end unspoiled and see the end unfolds when then show airs.

And for the record, this site has been doing this for years. Trust me they know what they are doing.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on October 26, 2017, 05:09:04 PM
Sourapple - This forum was instrumental in identifying ten of the eleven teams racing in TAR30.  That information has not been released by CBS (except for the eleventh team) and is certainly considered spoiler material.  Since this was a public start, you may think these teams were all pretty much exposed to the public anyway, but if you look back, RFF has identified racers even when the start wasn't a public event.

RFF may not be the site you are looking for to discuss Reality Television shows, but many would disagree, including me.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 26, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
I get what you're saying but then what is the purpose of this forum?
Gathering and summarising accurate information about the teams, route, locations, tasks and everything else each season, which has been done successfully for TAR30 as well.

The people who want to watch how the last chapter unfolds won't be on this spoiler forum I assure you that.
And I have assured you that as well. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 26, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
That's why I don't post, I word stuff wrong haha. I did come here for the twins & am team twins but I meant now they're DOWN to the final 3. That was a run on sentence I suppose. Oops. I am aware twins didn't make final 3 lol.  I've been following since the beginning & get information about every elimination down to final 3 then it stops and we get nothing and they say they won't announce winner?  Then what is the purpose of the forum?  It's like reading a good book that is missing the final chapter.  At least people on twitter acknowledge they don't know who won so if that's the case here they need to do the same

If you read through the live sightings, It sounds like RFF's team couldn't get close enough to see what was happening at the final location. It was too secluded and they had security people keeping them away. So, I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly confident RFF doesn't know who the winner was.

It's been said elsewhere a few times, but I'll repeat it. We have had seasons where everything was revealed and once that happened, interest around here dropped off to next to nothing. Keep a little mystery at the end and it keeps people interested and engaged. We've done it this way for quite a few years and it works for RFF. I'm somewhat surprised at all the people angry about this. What makes you think we owe it to you to spell out every last detail?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: GrandmawLily on October 26, 2017, 05:59:27 PM

  They find their info on twitter then post their name on it make it look like a Reality Fan Forum exclusive.


For the record.....I was on twitter the night of the final leg.
TWITTER users simply copied and pasted almost ALL of RFF's final leg word for word....post for post.
A 'few" twitter users noted the info came from RFF, but not all. I didn't see/read any revelation about the final leg from ANY Twitter user that night that didn't come directly  from THIS site.

Trying to bully the people in charge into getting your way isn't going to work. This is NOT BB19.


And, yes....I know....this if off-topic!
  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 26, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
I came to this forum at the begging of the season to follow the twins & they're in final 3 yay!!  But I've never registered to post until today.   I'm just confused as to why this is a spoiler site BUT WONT announce winners??  I've read they don't wanna spoil it for people who don't want to know, but in all fairness it says "spoiler" before you click on it SO if somebody comes to this site it's obviously for spoilers.   The ones that don't want to know will not even be here.  Is it because you don't really know??   I read you also said to protect sources, but how does that make sense?  You haven't protected sources all season so what's the difference now?  I feel like Twitter has broke more sources than here throughout the season.   I've saw posts of users upset because they saw the finale unfold (which have been deleted) BUT "georgiapeach" won't let them post or say anything about it. last I checked she doesn't own you go post it on Twitter or Facebook or wherever. I'd be dang if I did all that work for her just for her to tell me to keep my mouth shut!!!!  Seems like she treats some of you like slaves.  I know I'll get blocked & this post will be removed because that's what Peach has seemed to do all season if you don't agree with her way of thinking.   It's actually become a joke of a site & all you guys who abide by her rules look weak, if you have the ability to announce winner do it yourself instead of letting her stake claim.  Whoever owns Reality Fan Forum really needs to find someone else to run this because this season has been nothing short of a joke.  They find their info on twitter then post their name on it make it look like a Reality Fan Forum exclusive. There is so much wrong with this site. Goodbye for good if they get new people to run it I will be back but I will probably be banned anyways hahahaha

If anybody out there besides the production staff and the racers know who the winners are, I'd be shocked. I haven't seen anything out in the Twitterverse or Facebook, so I don't think anyone knows. As for just posting tweets and information from other social media, that's by far the best source of information. There wouldn't be much to post without that. We always strive to credit whoever put their sighting out where we could find it. I suspect there are a few cases where that wasn't done but that's the exception, not the rule. As for the protecting our sources claim that keeps getting thrown in our faces, I think that was entirely used (or nearly so) by the Jody Fans. We don't have inside sources of information that need to be protected. In 15 seasons of chasing spoilers, I've never seen any information leak from the TAR production team. Maybe somebody they hire locally will spill something on social media but not often. So, we don't have to protect somebody's job, although when a locally hired person is involved we generally haven't revealed who it was. Personally, I suspect the "protect the source" claims was just a response to our requests to know the source of the categorical assertions being made with little or no supporting evidence. By saying they had to protect their source, they didn't have to explain their claims.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 26, 2017, 06:45:36 PM
Plaidmoon it's pretty obvious who won when that reporter tweeted that thing about a team he recently interviewed
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: paradoxinee on October 26, 2017, 07:00:20 PM
Plaidmoon it's pretty obvious who won when that reporter tweeted that thing about a team he recently interviewed

Even if that team won, at this moment, this info is still a speculation/rumor, not the fact.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 26, 2017, 07:00:52 PM
That's why I don't post, I word stuff wrong haha. I did come here for the twins & am team twins but I meant now they're DOWN to the final 3. That was a run on sentence I suppose. Oops. I am aware twins didn't make final 3 lol.  I've been following since the beginning & get information about every elimination down to final 3 then it stops and we get nothing and they say they won't announce winner?  Then what is the purpose of the forum?  It's like reading a good book that is missing the final chapter.  At least people on twitter acknowledge they don't know who won so if that's the case here they need to do the same

If you read through the live sightings, It sounds like RFF's team couldn't get close enough to see what was happening at the final location. It was too secluded and they had security people keeping them away. So, I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly confident RFF doesn't know who the winner was.

It's been said elsewhere a few times, but I'll repeat it. We have had seasons where everything was revealed and once that happened, interest around here dropped off to next to nothing. Keep a little mystery at the end and it keeps people interested and engaged. We've done it this way for quite a few years and it works for RFF. I'm somewhat surprised at all the people angry about this. What makes you think we owe it to you to spell out every last detail?

rff people and peach's timeline is missing an hour and a half, so a lot could've changed in that time.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 26, 2017, 07:09:59 PM
I knew the current timeline was off, that is way too little tasks and easy for a FINALE I can't wait to see what happened I love the final 3 all good competitors and will give a good show.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 26, 2017, 07:23:31 PM
Plaidmoon it's pretty obvious who won when that reporter tweeted that thing about a team he recently interviewed

Which is probably what the marketing machine wants a particular fan base to believe.  It's the scoop that keeps on giving, freely.   

1. How many racers were marketed prior to start? One   
2. Whose fan base did the marketing desire to pull in at the start?  One
3. Whose fan base is lighting up social media about TAR?  One
4. What did all this marketing cost?  $0
5. Other racing teams may be promoted closer to show time or not.

For many viewers, it doesn't matter who wins - it is all about the race, the game play, and the travel.

For the machine - it is all about advertising $$$.
 :conf:    We want TAR renewed!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 26, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
That's why I don't post, I word stuff wrong haha. I did come here for the twins & am team twins but I meant now they're DOWN to the final 3. That was a run on sentence I suppose. Oops. I am aware twins didn't make final 3 lol.  I've been following since the beginning & get information about every elimination down to final 3 then it stops and we get nothing and they say they won't announce winner?  Then what is the purpose of the forum?  It's like reading a good book that is missing the final chapter.  At least people on twitter acknowledge they don't know who won so if that's the case here they need to do the same

If you read through the live sightings, It sounds like RFF's team couldn't get close enough to see what was happening at the final location. It was too secluded and they had security people keeping them away. So, I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly confident RFF doesn't know who the winner was.

It's been said elsewhere a few times, but I'll repeat it. We have had seasons where everything was revealed and once that happened, interest around here dropped off to next to nothing. Keep a little mystery at the end and it keeps people interested and engaged. We've done it this way for quite a few years and it works for RFF. I'm somewhat surprised at all the people angry about this. What makes you think we owe it to you to spell out every last detail?

rff people and peach's timeline is missing an hour and a half, so a lot could've changed in that time.

I never said anything about the timeline. Not sure why you're bringing it in here. However, there was never a 90 minute period during the final leg when Peach and the RFF team weren't providing updates, even if it's that they were all in a building. Also, a task could easily take 90 minutes to complete. You're right, much could change in 90 minutes. However, we're not claiming to know how the race ended. We haven't claimed that since the Skiers arrived first that they must have won. That's been others who make the assumption. Any of the three teams could have won.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 26, 2017, 07:41:43 PM
That's why I don't post, I word stuff wrong haha. I did come here for the twins & am team twins but I meant now they're DOWN to the final 3. That was a run on sentence I suppose. Oops. I am aware twins didn't make final 3 lol.  I've been following since the beginning & get information about every elimination down to final 3 then it stops and we get nothing and they say they won't announce winner?  Then what is the purpose of the forum?  It's like reading a good book that is missing the final chapter.  At least people on twitter acknowledge they don't know who won so if that's the case here they need to do the same

If you read through the live sightings, It sounds like RFF's team couldn't get close enough to see what was happening at the final location. It was too secluded and they had security people keeping them away. So, I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly confident RFF doesn't know who the winner was.

It's been said elsewhere a few times, but I'll repeat it. We have had seasons where everything was revealed and once that happened, interest around here dropped off to next to nothing. Keep a little mystery at the end and it keeps people interested and engaged. We've done it this way for quite a few years and it works for RFF. I'm somewhat surprised at all the people angry about this. What makes you think we owe it to you to spell out every last detail?

rff people and peach's timeline is missing an hour and a half, so a lot could've changed in that time.

I never said anything about the timeline. Not sure why you're bringing it in here. However, there was never a 90 minute period during the final leg when Peach and the RFF team had nothing to report.

just stating that they didn't end until 3am pt.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 26, 2017, 07:48:42 PM
That's why I don't post, I word stuff wrong haha. I did come here for the twins & am team twins but I meant now they're DOWN to the final 3. That was a run on sentence I suppose. Oops. I am aware twins didn't make final 3 lol.  I've been following since the beginning & get information about every elimination down to final 3 then it stops and we get nothing and they say they won't announce winner?  Then what is the purpose of the forum?  It's like reading a good book that is missing the final chapter.  At least people on twitter acknowledge they don't know who won so if that's the case here they need to do the same

If you read through the live sightings, It sounds like RFF's team couldn't get close enough to see what was happening at the final location. It was too secluded and they had security people keeping them away. So, I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly confident RFF doesn't know who the winner was.

It's been said elsewhere a few times, but I'll repeat it. We have had seasons where everything was revealed and once that happened, interest around here dropped off to next to nothing. Keep a little mystery at the end and it keeps people interested and engaged. We've done it this way for quite a few years and it works for RFF. I'm somewhat surprised at all the people angry about this. What makes you think we owe it to you to spell out every last detail?

rff people and peach's timeline is missing an hour and a half, so a lot could've changed in that time.

I never said anything about the timeline. Not sure why you're bringing it in here. However, there was never a 90 minute period during the final leg when Peach and the RFF team had nothing to report.

just stating that they didn't end until 3am pt.

And you know this how?

Again, we haven't claimed any of the teams won. Not sure why we take the blame for a supposed 90 minute gap.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Piper on October 26, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: dangambler

just stating that they didn't end until 3am pt.

Oh, this reminds me of the 2:15pm flight from Hong Kong to SFO that turned out incorrect.  Those start photos from Hong Kong were among some of the best spoilers.   :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: WindsorSue on October 26, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
Peach was posting WELL past 3 AM. He's just fishing for info.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 26, 2017, 07:58:01 PM
OK, I looked at the Live Sighting thread and there was about 90 minutes between the last update and Peach's recap. I guess that's what you're referring to. I suppose that makes it sinister. It can take time to do the last challenge and I'm sure it wasn't easy. So, that might well eat up close to 90 minutes. It's also possible that Peach took a few minutes to collect herself after the adrenaline rush of the evening, talk with her team and compose the thoughts she wanted to present.

Yes, in 90 minutes much can change. But we've never claimed to know what happened at the end, so we're not hiding anything. ANY of the three teams might have won it. One did. That's what we know.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dangambler on October 26, 2017, 08:10:03 PM
OK, I looked at the Live Sighting thread and there was about 90 minutes between the last update and Peach's recap. I guess that's what you're referring to. I suppose that makes it sinister. It can take time to do the last challenge and I'm sure it wasn't easy. So, that might well eat up close to 90 minutes. It's also possible that Peach took a few minutes to collect herself after the adrenaline rush of the evening, talk with her team and compose the thoughts she wanted to present.

Yes, in 90 minutes much can change. But we've never claimed to know what happened at the end, so we're not hiding anything. ANY of the three teams might have won it. One did. That's what we know.

who said anything sinister was implied? why so defensive? all I stated was I know what time it ended and it was around 3am pt. was no dig at anyone, just a statement of fact.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on October 26, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
I'm sad you didn't realise that throughout the season, but "I know" doesn't go as fact here.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on October 26, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
Peach was posting WELL past 3 AM. He's just fishing for info.

for what info exactly?  Everyone on RFF has already admitted they don't know who won and lost track of them after a certain point, and peach was not giving updates at 3am PT (6am my time) nobody was, they were out of sight well before that point by everyone here who claims they were there.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Flyergal on October 26, 2017, 08:19:23 PM
Off topic from what you all are discussing but I have a general TAR question. If I’m in the wrong place on the forum for that I’m sorry. My question- even though it was a public start, since only one team was officially announced by the network, are the rest not allowed to publicly say they were on the show until they get officially announced, even though there’s pics of them all over?  Just wondering how that works..thanks
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 26, 2017, 08:24:52 PM
My guess is they went into a building and had more tasks inside where you scouters couldnt watch. maybe it was part of a "twist" phil talked about at the start line.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 26, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
i don't understand the obsession with the finish line. i mean, if Peach & teams said they need time then i will wait patiently. they must be exhausted and have other things to do in real life. I experienced that before when TAR visited Bali in season 22 & 28. back from work i directly went to the airport to catch the racers. arrived at home at 04.00 AM and then have to be at Tanah Lot when the racers released at at 06.00 AM, didn't have enough sleep. And Peach didn't force me to give the information that i had immediately. i appreciate the hard work of moderator & detectives here. Tbh i don't really care about the finish line
I totally agree with you! During the HK leg this season, I went directly to the airport after my work at 7pm and started to follow the teams until 8:30 where they finally came out from the gate.
It was such an excited yet worried 1.5 hour in my entire life lol  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 26, 2017, 08:41:29 PM
Off topic from what you all are discussing but I have a general TAR question. If I’m in the wrong place on the forum for that I’m sorry. My question- even though it was a public start, since only one team was officially announced by the network, are the rest not allowed to publicly say they were on the show until they get officially announced, even though there’s pics of them all over?  Just wondering how that works..thanks

Yes, they're not allowed to tell unless CBS has officially announced.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 26, 2017, 08:55:20 PM
Off topic from what you all are discussing but I have a general TAR question. If I’m in the wrong place on the forum for that I’m sorry. My question- even though it was a public start, since only one team was officially announced by the network, are the rest not allowed to publicly say they were on the show until they get officially announced, even though there’s pics of them all over?  Just wondering how that works..thanks

Yes, they're not allowed to tell unless CBS has officially announced.

That is so confusing to me because cbs asked fans to come watch the start line, seems silly to not just release alll the teams back when they started filming
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 26, 2017, 08:57:40 PM
Off topic from what you all are discussing but I have a general TAR question. If I’m in the wrong place on the forum for that I’m sorry. My question- even though it was a public start, since only one team was officially announced by the network, are the rest not allowed to publicly say they were on the show until they get officially announced, even though there’s pics of them all over?  Just wondering how that works..thanks

Yes, they're not allowed to tell unless CBS has officially announced.

That is so confusing to me because cbs asked fans to come watch the start line, seems silly to not just release alll the teams back when they started filming

CBS had an official press release revealing the teams almost immediately after the open Starting Lines of TAR25 and TAR27. That's why it's odd nothing for TAR30. But then again, TAR isn't too high on CBS' priority list these days.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Hummingbird on October 26, 2017, 09:20:44 PM
So sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place, but all the back and forth is maddening!!

As a newbie to this site, I just wanted to comment on few things.

In the beginning, there was bickering between posters on this board and some Jody fans. It went both ways. However, I think the start of it all was some Jody fans not understanding (or not caring) how this board works and/or not abiding by the rules of this board. Then we had the seasoned posters trying to correct them.  Misunderstandings turned into chaos.  It would have been a much more positive experience for everyone if all that bickering didn't exist. How does this get rectified so it doesn't become the norm?

As far as what Georgia Peach and the other detectives do here, I find it fascinating and quite impressive.  I personally think they ALL deserve a huge round of applause and giant debt of gratitude! What they were able to deliver to us on finale night, was incredible!  I didn't see anything even remotely close anywhere else on finale night despite searching all night.  All the sightings and information that I saw everywhere else, came straight from RFF.  Would we all like to know more? Of course we would!!  But let's all just be happy for the AMAZING feat they were able to pull off a few nights ago, and have a little patience until more info is able to be shared.  And in the event nothing new surfaces, just think of how exciting the finale will be when all is finally revealed.

A special personal thank you to Georgia Peach.  As busy as she was during the season, she took the time to walk me through some things I didn't know how to do.  So, Thanks Peach...much appreciated!! 

Thanks to everyone for your time!  :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on October 26, 2017, 09:26:52 PM
Just my two cents but I don't think all of these commotions will also happen if Jody didn't end up on the finale. :res:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 26, 2017, 11:31:46 PM
Just my two cents but I don't think all of these commotions will also happen if Jody didn't end up on the finale. :res:
Experienced RFF members like us would have adapted the rule long before though, it probably takes times for newcomers (especially Jody fans who extremely care their positions on each leg of the race  :groan:)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 27, 2017, 07:53:15 AM
Tell you what guys, can we please get back to discussing the spoilers? Searching for missing legs?

This is a thread for the TAR30 spoiler discussion, not a thread for how RFF works or does not work.

And thank you for the kind words as well! Everyone worked extremely hard to bring you the HK and San Fran spoilers, so some love for the incredible on the ground teams means a lot!

Thanks!

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on October 28, 2017, 12:04:16 AM
I'm not sure it's San Francisco Bay, but if it is, that must be the San Francisco - Oakland Bay Bridge because there are no tall buildings near the Golden Gate Bridge. Would they use day time shots in a night time leg?  That might also suggest that the Zodiac boats went to the bridge. Could the team jumping have been from the bridge? Interesting to speculate but no proof.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 28, 2017, 12:34:20 AM
I'm not sure it's San Francisco Bay, but if it is, that must be the San Francisco - Oakland Bay Bridge because there are no tall buildings near the Golden Gate Bridge. Would they use day time shots in a night time leg?  That might also suggest that the Zodiac boats went to the bridge. Could the team jumping have been from the bridge? Interesting to speculate but no proof.

The Bay Bridge is a freeway bridge, so no sidewalks or something that they can use to jump.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 28, 2017, 12:53:12 AM
The buildings between the photogs resembles the Rincon Hill towers. I'd say the boat they were on was halfway between SF and Yerba Buena island and south of the bridge. Sources:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bax0q-dA6O_/?hl=en
https://goo.gl/maps/nK2xkKC6KH42
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 28, 2017, 01:44:41 AM
Finish Line on a boat?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 28, 2017, 06:55:35 AM
Finish Line on a boat?
That’s honestly would be tragic for the teams who had to drive back on their boat to land to pay their taxis
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on October 28, 2017, 06:57:08 AM
Finish Line on a boat?
That’s honestly would be tragic for the teams who had to drive back on their boat to land to pay their taxis

And also hilariously cruel. But it's gotta be a large boat.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on October 28, 2017, 10:02:00 AM
Well, you would have to acknowledge that a boat would be a pretty good secure, restricted access and restricted visibility location. And, if they wanted to have the equivalent of a footrace they could make the teams have to climb a cargo net up the side of the boat (ship?) to board.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 28, 2017, 10:30:21 AM
The Bay Bridge photo MAY reflect when teams disappeared on the zodiac boats after the kayak task...and were gone approx. an hour.

We believe they were doing a JUMP...but did not reappear WET.

So a jump and swing maybe? Pure spec!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ShelbysHat on October 28, 2017, 10:49:05 AM
Probably the same bungee swing they did in TAR17 Finale.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 28, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
how does that make any sense at all, wasnt in night time during the kayak task pics which was before that jump ?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Seastars on October 28, 2017, 11:16:15 AM
They could have done a night parachute jump, several smaller airports around Oakland/East Bay and it's a "thing" there. 

A bungee type jump could be set up anywhere as well, including on one of the islands in the bay or in any enclosed space.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 28, 2017, 11:37:20 AM
how does that make any sense at all, wasnt in night time during the kayak task pics which was before that jump ?

Production/Phil probably got in ahead of them earlier in the day.

If the finish line is on a boat, while that is cool, just don't want a repeat of 24's stunty entrance to the finish where the winner was decided by who got to the cluebox first.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 28, 2017, 12:48:07 PM
Phil's pic looks to have been taken Monday afternoon most likely considering the sun is in the west as the pic is facing the City.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on October 28, 2017, 05:44:11 PM
Quick order of the night to help clarify:
Arrive at SFO
Travel by taxi to South Beach Harbor/Pier 40/AT&T Park
Perform task with kayaks and baseballs (possible Willie Mays tie-in?)
Leave Pier 40 area by boat
Possibly perform some form of "jump" task?
Arrive at Pier 15/Exploratorium by boat (neither team member appeared wet after "jump" task)
Receive clue leading to Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory
Travel to Fortune Cookie Factory on foot
Perform tasks at Fortune Cookie Factory
Receive clue leading to SF City Hall
Travel to City Hall by taxi
Arrive at City Hall and receive clue leading to final location
Travel to final location by taxi
Arrive at final location
Perform final task?
Run to pit stop within the same area?

Peach will be coming soon with an official timeline and more details, but thought I'd clear things up a little, since there might've been a little confusion on transportation

Question marked items are due to us not having visual confirmation of these, thought they all seem highly likely
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jboy224 on October 28, 2017, 05:55:46 PM
Can you scouters please explain to me how the skiers got ahead in a boat ride when yall reported that jody and the debaters beat the skiers in the kayak challenge and said they had kayak problems??
Here is some information on the "jump" comment.  The racers left the kayaks via zodiac boat (Pier 40/South Beach Harbor/AT&T Park).  They arrived at Pier 15/Exploratorium approximately 1 hour later.  During this 1 hour (maybe at the 45 minute mark?) I overheard one of the waiting production staff say, "The first team just jumped."  That was all I heard and no other context.  So wherever this "jump" was, they had to be able to get from Pier 40 to Pier 15 by boat with the "jump" in between.  The quoted picture of the skiers was taken at Pier 15 when they got off the boat and they don't look wet.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 28, 2017, 06:08:51 PM
Because either they travelled faster or did the task faster of course. Placements can change at the drop of a hat.

And the "kayak problem" was a guess because they were seen just waiting at one point. In hindsight, it is possible they were either waiting for the umpire or their zodiac pickup.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Aprilrose on October 28, 2017, 06:18:47 PM
Context of Willie Mays and the kayaks:  The water on the other side of the right field fence is called McCovey cove, named after Willie McCovey, a hall of famer, & team mate of Willie Mays.  Home run balls over the right field fence land in McCovey Cove, and people really do rent kayaks there and hang out to fish out home run balls from the water.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 28, 2017, 08:26:47 PM
Travel by taxi to South Beach Harbor/Pier 40/AT&T Park
Perform task with kayaks and baseballs (possible Willie Mays tie-in?)

Just based on the 2 videos posted to YouTube and Instagram Stories, the clue picked up in front of AT&T Park/Willie Mays Plaza asked teams
How many career HRs did Willie Mays hit? = 660
They then had to go to Pier 40, hop into a kayak and paddle themselves into McCovey Cove to search for three baseballs with the numbers 6, 6 and 0. Those were the baseballs needed to be given to the umpire.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on October 28, 2017, 08:31:08 PM
Could this be a reference to one of the TAR19 finale tasks, it sounds reminiscent of it. Or...TAR just likes baseball in their finales, because we had it as a theme last season too  :P

"On completing the Roadblock, teams had to deduce that the series of three numbers on the clue were a homage to Hank Aaron: 44 (his uniform number), 715 (the number of home runs he hit to break the Major League Baseball home run record) and 74 (the year in which he broke the record). Teams had to figure out that they were to go to Turner Field."
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 29, 2017, 04:35:07 AM
I moved a lot of misguided spoiler final 3 order discussion to the Jody Thread.

Please read my post there. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: chill_sd on November 01, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
From the live sighting thread:

I don't think this was posted.

Found a small article (http://www.varmatin.com/serie-tv/la-chaine-cbs-a-tourne-le-pekin-express-americain-a-saint-tropez-176242) in french about TAR's visit to Saint-Tropez.
According to the article, they played boules (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boules) (=pétanque (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9tanque) I think ?) at Place de Lices.

I love the last line (and caption to the photo): "If filming was meant to be confidential, it did not resist to a touchdown on social networks." (Google translate, but you get the drift.)  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ss on November 03, 2017, 10:21:04 PM
Georgia peach, please release the photos and videos you promised on Oct 24th. I have been lurking and patiently waiting for days now :(
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on November 03, 2017, 10:59:39 PM
Georgia peach, please release the photos and videos you promised on Oct 24th. I have been lurking and patiently waiting for days now :(

Welcome to RFF, ss. Peach will release what she has, when she feels fit!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on November 04, 2017, 12:39:03 AM
Georgia peach, please release the photos and videos you promised on Oct 24th. I have been lurking and patiently waiting for days now :(

Welcome to RFF, ss. Peach will release what she has, when she feels fit!

Yes, she will. Just be patient. We're not in a rush.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ss on November 04, 2017, 08:09:31 AM
Thank you! Yes, I do know that, but I was just hoping to speed along the process (just because she mentioned that there would be loads of photos and videos for weeks to come)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on December 02, 2017, 06:29:05 PM
With a premiere less than six weeks away, and a cast reveal beforehand, there will be plenty to digest.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 08, 2017, 12:15:27 AM
From the Media:

Quote
travel to their first destination, Iceland, where they must traverse a massive canyon high above the Geitargljufur River

teams will travel to 10 countries, 21 cities and over 29,000 miles in the quest to cross the finish line

Who is checking the count?? Are they right? Are WE right??

Don't think we had the traverse either....

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: SamualDude on December 08, 2017, 01:52:07 AM
From the Media:

Quote
travel to their first destination, Iceland, where they must traverse a massive canyon high above the Geitargljufur River

teams will travel to 10 countries, 21 cities and over 29,000 miles in the quest to cross the finish line

Who is checking the count?? Are they right? Are WE right??

Don't think we had the traverse either....



Yeah the countries is right because I believe they include the US as one of the 10 countries. They have only two countries to have two legs this season so 10 countries.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 08, 2017, 09:45:52 AM
From the CBS press release:

Teams begin their adventure in Washington Square Park in New York City and immediately travel to their first destination, Iceland, where they must traverse a massive canyon high above the Geitargljufur River.

I am really curious to see this part of the episode because I spent a lot of time on Google Earth trying to find this site using the information on that first clue. First of all, searching for Geitargljufur gets you nowhere. I'm not actually sure that's the right name. I eventually figured out that gljufur is Icelandic for gorge or canyon and that there is a Geita River along part of the Kaldidalur Road (spelling may be a bit off) that the clue said to take. Problem is that the river runs through fairly flat terrain and the only gorge I could find was about 20-30 feet deep and about 50-75 feet across. Not very impressive except that the lava in the area is interesting. I'm thinking they must have followed the Geita river up to the source at the Langjökull glacier. I tried to find a suitable gorge there but Google Earth is lacking detail and I couldn't identify one. There are some peaks above the river that they could rig something between but it appeared it would be at least a quarter mile across and I'm not sure how you would get up or down from the peaks.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: fossil-racer on December 28, 2017, 09:06:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBcPx5vZEBNJHylRryMxniw/videos

A lot of teasers and trailers from the channel

16 - You can see the pitstop mat and the French Fry race task
Boat task in Saint Tropez

15 - Alex and Conor driving

14 - Promo; nothing new

13 - Lifeguards in Iceland?

10/11 - Skiers running (possible for Leg 6 pitstop)

9 - Jody in Iceland?

8 - Promo

7 - Some throwing task in Saint Tropez

4 - Twins @ a singing task

3 - Race between the ring girls and yoga moms? (Leg 1 Pitstop Race?)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on December 28, 2017, 09:30:56 PM

15. Alex & Conor driving in Morocco and get lost for a stop.



 the license plates you've seen is from Morocco:

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/world/AF_MORO.html

(http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/AF_MORO_GI.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on December 28, 2017, 09:51:15 PM
Good news, Double Battle/Face-off will finally appear on TAR 30.



 :HNY:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on December 29, 2017, 01:31:03 AM
If they're like HaMerotz and a few TARPH2 and TAR China ones, then yay. If they're like any TAR Canada ones, then no thank you  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on December 29, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
That's exciting, I never imagined that task could be a Face-Off. :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: DavidJunior on December 29, 2017, 05:35:45 PM
I’m not excited that it’s at the end of the leg and basically is the sole determinant of leg placements and the main reason a team got eliminated

It’s a bad implementation and placement of a type of task I didn’t really even want to see

I hope it’s the only one we see if it is a face off
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on December 29, 2017, 06:00:33 PM
Been waiting for this pop up in TAR US!

Excited for it!  :xmas146 :cmas51
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on December 29, 2017, 07:55:24 PM
That's exciting, I never imagined that task could be a Face-Off. :cmas9
What's the task?

I’m not excited that it’s at the end of the leg and basically is the sole determinant of leg placements and the main reason a team got eliminated

It’s a bad implementation and placement of a type of task I didn’t really even want to see


And that's exactly what I meant about it being more TAR Canada-like. HaMarotz, TARChina and TARPH's were usually (if not all) in the first half of their Legs with plenty more tasks following.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on December 29, 2017, 07:59:16 PM
Yeah, not the best placement for it. I'm hoping the last place team was the last one to get to the Face Off.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on December 30, 2017, 11:29:12 AM
On second thought, you guys are right that the placement is not the best for this task.
And I also hope that the eliminated team didn't fall behind just because of it.

dryedmangoez, the task is the frites/french fries one. I assume it's some kind of race.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on December 30, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
Could the French fry race be a RACE TO THE PITSTOP?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on December 30, 2017, 07:38:18 PM
dryedmangoez, the task is the frites/french fries one. I assume it's some kind of race.

Oh! I didn't really follow the tasks live. But looking at it, it seems like a HaMerotz-style wacky/offbeat kind of task. Not a completely sport-like task like TAR Canada.

But yeah, the placement on the Leg is  :cmas3. And that's just true for any TAR that has used the Double Battle/Face Off on their Race. Should be interesting to see how TARUS implements and executes it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Laaadedaa on December 30, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
The Jody twitter accounts have started again.... seemingly hinting that they know the winner 🤷🏽‍♀️
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Lemontail on December 30, 2017, 08:58:08 PM
The Jody twitter accounts have started again.... seemingly hinting that they know the winner 🤷🏽‍♀️

Or it's because TAR is about to start on January 3rd, a few days from now.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on December 31, 2017, 03:28:10 AM
Whatever, i really don't care about knowing the winner when the show is about to start :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on December 31, 2017, 03:35:43 AM
The Jody twitter accounts have started again.... seemingly hinting that they know the winner 🤷🏽‍♀️

Even their Insta accounts have started again as well to see/stalk around. So happy that will be three days to go.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2018, 05:35:57 PM
Interesting tidbit from the latest Goat Yoga Video: http://www.azfamily.com/clip/14017922/goat-yoga-creators-compete-on-the-amazing-race

3 Teams applied.

8 Teams recruited.

sigh.....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 01, 2018, 05:39:42 PM
Interesting tidbit from the latest Goat Yoga Video: http://www.azfamily.com/clip/14017922/goat-yoga-creators-compete-on-the-amazing-race

3 Teams applied.

8 Teams recruited.

sigh.....

How could this happened? Who were actually these three are applied?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on January 01, 2018, 05:45:13 PM
Not too surprising given the teams
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on January 01, 2018, 05:51:38 PM
Interesting tidbit from the latest Goat Yoga Video: http://www.azfamily.com/clip/14017922/goat-yoga-creators-compete-on-the-amazing-race

3 Teams applied.

8 Teams recruited.

sigh.....

How could this happened? Who were actually these three are applied?

If I had to wager a guess, I'd say the firefighter twins are one of them. They seem like the most "regular".
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 01, 2018, 06:07:16 PM
How about for TAR31 and onwards, we just have contestants recruited and NOT applied contestants. This season is not good for normally Americans who have actually done this the RIGHT WAY! Livid about this.  :cmas28 :cmas28
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on January 01, 2018, 08:18:55 PM
Interesting tidbit from the latest Goat Yoga Video: http://www.azfamily.com/clip/14017922/goat-yoga-creators-compete-on-the-amazing-race

3 Teams applied.

8 Teams recruited.

sigh.....

How could this happened? Who were actually these three are applied?

If I had to wager a guess, I'd say the firefighter twins are one of them. They seem like the most "regular".

Also the token blood-related team.

The other two are some combination of the non-BB M/F couples and the Ski ladies.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARUSAFan on January 02, 2018, 07:57:15 AM
Interesting tidbit from the latest Goat Yoga Video: http://www.azfamily.com/clip/14017922/goat-yoga-creators-compete-on-the-amazing-race

3 Teams applied.

8 Teams recruited.

sigh.....

How could this happened? Who were actually these three are applied?

If I had to wager a guess, I'd say the firefighter twins are one of them. They seem like the most "regular".

Also the token blood-related team.

The other two are some combination of the non-BB M/F couples and the Ski ladies.


In the contestant's profiles. April from the Goat Yoga Moms states that it is her dream to be on TAR. Peach posted something about Dessie from the Ring Girls/Models that she applied 3 times with her father, brother and a cousin, only to be finally casted with a fellow model and friend Kayla. I wonder who the other team is. But seriously 8 recruits! I wonder how that will translate onto the show knowing they are not fans to begin with.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 02, 2018, 06:33:01 PM
Granath was probably right with those posts below. Those teams applied were Goat Yoga moms, Ring Girls/Models and Louisiana twins. The rest were recruited including Jody, B-ball and Skiers.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on January 03, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
In Phil's THR interview (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/amazing-race-host-phil-keoghan-talks-30-seasons-years-best-best-competitors-1071311), (around 18:17) he describes/teases the Face Off/Double Battle and says it'll happen more than once, at least, in the season. But in describing Leg 2's task, he says it starts out being fun and frivolous before basically (possibly?) being the deciding factor in that Leg's elimination.

Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on January 03, 2018, 05:50:05 PM
I remember seeing in one of the tv commercials the Skiers and Jody together playing something like bocce ball in France. Perhaps that could be another Face-Off?

Edit: One of the Skiers said she was really frustrated in that clip. Perhaps after losing a couple rounds at the Face-Off?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: TARmap on January 03, 2018, 06:07:50 PM
In Phil's THR interview (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/amazing-race-host-phil-keoghan-talks-30-seasons-years-best-best-competitors-1071311), (around 18:17) he describes/teases the Face Off/Double Battle and says it'll happen more than once, at least, in the season. But in describing Leg 2's task, he says it starts out being fun and frivolous before basically (possibly?) being the deciding factor in that Leg's elimination.

Phil also lists all the locations they visit but not 100% sure why.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 03, 2018, 07:28:51 PM
Georgiapeach and KYT6DM's revelation that the final pit stop was on the USS Hornet in Alameda explains much. It certainly explains how they couldn't get close enough to see what was happening. Hopefully that will satisfy the conspiracy theorists.

That location blows me away. My Dad was in the US Navy for 22 years and most of my childhood was spent just a few miles away from Alameda. The final pit stop location was a Naval Base for many years, though it closed 15-20 years ago. I spent a lot of time on that base. We bought groceries at the commissary there. We went to movies there and used the swimming pool. I learned to swim there. We went to the pediatrician at the clinic on the base. I wish I could have been there to see TAR  run the leg at a place with so many memories for me. I'll be looking forward to the finale with great interest.

Also, the Aircraft Carrier Hornet Foundation appears to be a private organization, so it must have been appealing to TAR as keeping it secret must have been much easier.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 03, 2018, 07:36:42 PM
I love that you lived there! Wish you could have been there too....
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 03, 2018, 07:37:44 PM
Thanks for sharing the Finish Line with us Peach!  :xmas146
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 03, 2018, 07:38:49 PM
I'm like the tortoise...I get there in the end! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 03, 2018, 07:48:42 PM
I love that you lived there! Wish you could have been there too....

It would have been difficult to get free that day and get flights to San Francisco, but now I'm regretting not trying harder to see if I could have done it.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: CocoNuts on January 03, 2018, 08:18:01 PM
I need to know how these twists are going to work!!!

It looked like the team swap was in Zimbabwe so we r looking at Leg 7/8
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on January 04, 2018, 02:03:11 AM
Coincidence? Spoiler?  :cmaslol
(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on January 04, 2018, 09:03:55 PM
Coincidence? Spoiler?  :cmaslol
(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)

Cedric and Shawns is in front of France where they got eliminated  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on January 04, 2018, 09:26:33 PM
Coincidence? Spoiler?  :cmaslol
(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)

Cedric and Shawns is in front of France where they got eliminated  :cmaslol

What? All I can see is intro picture of Kristi & Jen ???
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BritishTARFan on January 04, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Coincidence? Spoiler?  :cmaslol
(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)

Cedric and Shawns is in front of France where they got eliminated  :cmaslol

What? All I can see is intro picture of Kristi & Jen ???

The Golden Gate Bridge hints a location they may possibly visit  :cmas22
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Kamineko on January 04, 2018, 09:40:59 PM
Coincidence? Spoiler?  :cmaslol
(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)

Cedric and Shawns is in front of France where they got eliminated  :cmaslol

What? All I can see is intro picture of Kristi & Jen ???

The Golden Gate Bridge hints a location they may possibly visit  :cmas22

I mean this part :lol:

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Cedric and Shawns is in front of France where they got eliminated  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: SoYoung on January 05, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
would it be a first in TAR history if the final leg placement would be the same as their placement on the first leg?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ianthebalance on January 05, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
would it be a first in TAR history if the final leg placement would be the same as their placement on the first leg?

No
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jro on January 05, 2018, 09:07:39 PM
would it be a first in TAR history if the final leg placement would be the same as their placement on the first leg?

That has happened around 10 or 11 times. Would be the first time an all-female team won both the first and final leg though if the Skiers win/won. Nat and Kat finished 2nd in the first leg when they won, so they came close.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on January 05, 2018, 09:26:15 PM
To answer what SoYoung actually asked, yes, it would be the first time in history.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on January 05, 2018, 09:30:20 PM
I think SoYoung might be referring to the top 3 teams in the first Leg finishing in the exact same order on the Final Leg. If so, then it would be a first here on TAR30. That has never happened before.
In fact, TAR1 and TAR20 are the only seasons where the Top 3 of the first Leg were the Final 3 of the Race. Except, Guidos and Frank & Margarita/Brendon & Rachel and Art & JJ switched places on the Final Leg.

Most seasons have had 1 or 2 of the 1st Leg Top 3 in the Final Leg and of course many first Leg winners have gone on to also win the Race. A few seasons also where teams finished in the same place as their first Leg. But never all 3 teams.

So it would be a first if the Final Leg placements will also be:
Winners: Kristi & Jen
2nd Place: Cody & Jessica
3rd Place: Henry & Evan
It's certainly possible.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jro on January 05, 2018, 09:36:21 PM
My bad. Thought the question was asking about individual team placement.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: SoYoung on January 06, 2018, 12:01:37 AM
I think SoYoung might be referring to the top 3 teams in the first Leg finishing in the exact same order on the Final Leg. If so, then it would be a first here on TAR30. That has never happened before.
In fact, TAR1 and TAR20 are the only seasons where the Top 3 of the first Leg were the Final 3 of the Race. Except, Guidos and Frank & Margarita/Brendon & Rachel and Art & JJ switched places on the Final Leg.

Most seasons have had 1 or 2 of the 1st Leg Top 3 in the Final Leg and of course many first Leg winners have gone on to also win the Race. A few seasons also where teams finished in the same place as their first Leg. But never all 3 teams.

So it would be a first if the Final Leg placements will also be:
Winners: Kristi & Jen
2nd Place: Cody & Jessica
3rd Place: Henry & Evan
It's certainly possible.

Yes this is what i meant. Thank you. our bottom 3 this week would be their final placement as well based on the spoilers if they are correct.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on January 06, 2018, 04:45:17 PM
Joey looks like he is in pain running in the promo and it shows something happened while climbing up the tower
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: geographyknower on January 07, 2018, 06:23:12 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned but remember on the flight from Switzerland to Harare where there were photos of Lifeguards, Debaters, and Firefighters seated together? Jessica said in an interview with the Hollywood Reporter that Jody did form an alliance that happened organically, which likely means Jody, Skiiers, and Indy were together on the flight (in the front of the plane/in the front of the pack). Also, Ring Girls did an interview on Rob Has a Podcast and said Jody were targeted by everyone from the start, but Dessie and Kayla wanted to make an alliance with Jody.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on January 09, 2018, 01:28:00 AM
Judging from the season-long preview, it looks like we may have 3 big tasks for the HK leg?

A task in Aberdeen? (Though we lost them there)
RB at central pier (in preview)
Task at Lan Kwai Fong (Indy's elimination / Jody's sighting)

It looks good for a HK leg! (Previous HK legs except TAR17 ate all lame)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on January 11, 2018, 08:29:02 AM
Speculation theory:

After this first head-to-head, most people believe the next one will be in St-Tropez, France (aka leg 4) with the Pétanque task.
I think it will also lead to elimination:

If I'm not mistaken, the task is taking place at the same place of the pitstop (Place des Lices)

We saw some teams hanging in the background of some pictures (The competitive eaters), which would mean that this team lost and are waiting for the next team.

And we have a picture of two teams at the mat at the same time: The lifeguards and the Basketballers. I think they are the last two teams to check in (like we just had with the firefighters and Goat Yoga).

And we never saw team Basketball after that... So I would guess that they got Eliminated, with Lifeguards being in 8th place
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on January 11, 2018, 08:34:34 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2030/St%20Tropez.jpg)

Instagram brunoveronefrance

I'm talking about this picture. And notice the flags?  We had similar flags along the course of the first head-to-head
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on January 11, 2018, 11:18:24 AM
This completely sucks then. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on January 11, 2018, 11:31:02 AM
I don't know if the Head-to-head and its placement is hilarious, infuriating or just inexplicable and absurd. It definitely feels like a contrived way to further the "most competitive" hype.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 11, 2018, 05:26:49 PM
There's another Head-to-Head!!!

Don't care that it is at the end of the leg. GREAT PLACE to put it, but still calling it to the Head-to-Head  :cmas12

And one is enough for a season...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 11, 2018, 08:06:15 PM
No Bourkie...putting it at the end of a leg is AWFUL. I don't think any other franchise has EVER done that. This purely sucks.

Good eye stunami, but I REALLY hope you are not right!!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 12, 2018, 08:05:35 AM
Do we have this?

https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/2018/01/10/marshall-munhumumwe-s-shoes-too-big
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Alenaveda on January 12, 2018, 09:56:55 AM
No Bourkie...putting it at the end of a leg is AWFUL. I don't think any other franchise has EVER done that. This purely sucks.

Good eye stunami, but I REALLY hope you are not right!!

Although officially was an Intersection, TARLA did the same in the fourth leg of the second season.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: jb542 on January 14, 2018, 09:49:25 AM
Phil is now hosting a new show this fall. Will this affect The Amazing Race?
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 14, 2018, 11:33:07 AM
Do we have this?

https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/2018/01/10/marshall-munhumumwe-s-shoes-too-big

That sounds familiar to me. I remember seeing a similar article back during the filming. At least the details about the song and the reformed Four Brothers. Whether it's in here upthread, I couldn't say.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: theschnauzers on January 14, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
Phil is now hosting a new show this fall. Will this affect The Amazing Race?
I suspect it won't. It sounds like the sort of deal where he’ll go to each location, film any stand-ups and on camera interviews and can do voiceovers anywhere. And it would be relatively quick as well.(Most of the episodes if not all of them, would have co-hosts as a few were named in the press release as reported on Deadline Hollywood website.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jro on January 14, 2018, 10:24:02 PM
Do we have this?

https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/2018/01/10/marshall-munhumumwe-s-shoes-too-big

Speaking of Zimbabwe, TV Guide lists episodes 7 and 8 on February 7th as both occuring in Zimbabwe, which I think confirms what many have suspected of there being two Zimbabwe legs.

http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-amazing-race-30/episodes/1010412/ (http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-amazing-race-30/episodes/1010412/)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: KT6DM on January 14, 2018, 10:27:08 PM
"Gotta Put Your Sole Into It" - The race continues in St. Tropez, France, and Provence, France.  The title for S30 Episode 4 showed up in my program guide this morning...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: zuzuspetals on January 17, 2018, 09:20:45 PM
In the preview of the frites head-to-head comp, there was no sign of Jody, who ended up winning the leg.  In tonight's preview of the next bocce head-to-head comp there is no sign of Jody again.  Another first place finish coming up ??
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jro on January 17, 2018, 09:30:42 PM
In the preview of the frites head-to-head comp, there was no sign of Jody, who ended up winning the leg.  In tonight's preview of the next bocce head-to-head comp there is no sign of Jody again.  Another first place finish coming up ??

If I remember correctly, in one of the early previews, there was a clip of the Skiers and Jody at the Petanque faceoff and the Skiers being disappointed, so it's possible that was for first judging by their track records. As we know though, previews aren't always accurate, so we'll see.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jro on January 17, 2018, 09:35:25 PM
Random fun fact: This is the first season in which the final 3 teams each won one of the first three legs.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Maanca on January 17, 2018, 09:45:18 PM
Looks like a sports Face Off. Mangoez ain't gonna like that too much :P
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on January 18, 2018, 11:07:26 AM
Well curling and crokicurl were two of the least offensive TAR Canada Face Offs, though their placement on a Penultimate Leg is still  :cmas30:
But petanque is certainly better than basketball or water polo.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 19, 2018, 01:31:16 AM
Current Leg Discussion should go into that leg please.

So Leg 4 spoilers can be discussed in the leg 4 thread...

Moved a couple. :)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 24, 2018, 04:46:47 PM
Here's what would we have given on the timeline summary:

October 8 (Day 8 ) - Run Leg 4, tasks in Saint Tropez
October 9 (Day 9) - Probable extended Pit Stop
October 10 (Day 10) - Release times for Leg 5 in early morning, Run the leg in Provence
October 11 (Day 11) - Release times for Leg 6, travel to Prague
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: SoYoung on January 25, 2018, 12:20:38 AM
Current Leg Winners:

Leg 1 - Skiers
Leg 2 - Jody
Leg 3 - Yale
Leg 4 - Indy
Leg 5 - Lifeguards

Hopefully this will be their final placement as well. Love the pattern
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on January 25, 2018, 09:26:53 PM
Speculation theory:

After this first head-to-head, most people believe the next one will be in St-Tropez, France (aka leg 4) with the Pétanque task.
I think it will also lead to elimination:

If I'm not mistaken, the task is taking place at the same place of the pitstop (Place des Lices)

We saw some teams hanging in the background of some pictures (The competitive eaters), which would mean that this team lost and are waiting for the next team.

And we have a picture of two teams at the mat at the same time: The lifeguards and the Basketballers. I think they are the last two teams to check in (like we just had with the firefighters and Goat Yoga).

And we never saw team Basketball after that... So I would guess that they got Eliminated, with Lifeguards being in 8th place

For once I was right haha... doesn't happen often :P

Another theory for next week: Could it be possible that we have two flights going to Prague? We have this picture at the Uturn board with the first 5 teams. I think they will be on the same flight, and that the last 3 teams will be on another flight (which is why team big brother Uturned the well strung guys) (Indy could be on either flight).

There was talk (if I remember right) about some teams being 3-4 hours behind in Prague...

I was shock to see who big brother Uturned, after seeing that the well strung guys were doing good, but not the strongest team there. If they were the last two teams there, then it would make sense, and it would also explained why team big brother are saying : our face is going to be on there, in the preview. Maybe the first 5 teams made a deal to not use the Uturn.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jro on January 25, 2018, 10:03:52 PM
Speculation theory:

After this first head-to-head, most people believe the next one will be in St-Tropez, France (aka leg 4) with the Pétanque task.
I think it will also lead to elimination:

If I'm not mistaken, the task is taking place at the same place of the pitstop (Place des Lices)

We saw some teams hanging in the background of some pictures (The competitive eaters), which would mean that this team lost and are waiting for the next team.

And we have a picture of two teams at the mat at the same time: The lifeguards and the Basketballers. I think they are the last two teams to check in (like we just had with the firefighters and Goat Yoga).

And we never saw team Basketball after that... So I would guess that they got Eliminated, with Lifeguards being in 8th place

For once I was right haha... doesn't happen often :P

Another theory for next week: Could it be possible that we have two flights going to Prague? We have this picture at the Uturn board with the first 5 teams. I think they will be on the same flight, and that the last 3 teams will be on another flight (which is why team big brother Uturned the well strung guys) (Indy could be on either flight).

There was talk (if I remember right) about some teams being 3-4 hours behind in Prague...

I was shock to see who big brother Uturned, after seeing that the well strung guys were doing good, but not the strongest team there. If they were the last two teams there, then it would make sense, and it would also explained why team big brother are saying : our face is going to be on there, in the preview. Maybe the first 5 teams made a deal to not use the Uturn.

Yeah I was also wondering about the uturn usage. Not so much that Jody uturned Well Strung. They are/were a relatively strong team and Jody was friendly with the Skiers and Indycar, so I wouldn't expect Jody to uturn either of them. More so that the lifeguards seemed to be ahead of jody and didn't uturn them. Especially because Jess said recently that Brittany held the gnome thing over her for the entire duration of filming (She really does not like Brittany lol). I think they probably thought they were getting u-turned because they knew the lifeguards didn't like them, and they knew other teams viewed them as a threat.  I'm thinking the Skiers maybe talked them out of it? Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: stunami on January 26, 2018, 10:52:25 AM
FB Via Lawren Campbell

So my old friend -------- is in Prague. He took this picture and wrote this post, you can't buy an experience like this: We stumbled across these envelopes this morning in a small park, semi-hidden behind the shrubs. We are thinking is this the real deal? As I decide to find out by picking one up, some guy behind the bushes pops up and nicely asks me not to touch them. He confirmed it was indeed the real Amazing Race in Prague! What are the chances! One hour later we saw the end destination point film crew waiting for the teams to arrive in another famous park.

4 teams in the front; 3 in the back.

That's what I meant... Probably 2 flights to Prague, or something that separated them into two groups (a bus or plane ride)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on January 26, 2018, 03:25:57 PM

15. Alex & Conor driving in BAHRAIN Morocco and get lost for a stop.



 the license plates you've seen is from Morocco:

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/world/AF_MORO.html

(http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/AF_MORO_GI.jpg)

ApprenticeFan is wrong as usual - the footage is from Manama and thereabouts.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 26, 2018, 04:50:37 PM

15. Alex & Conor driving in BAHRAIN Morocco and get lost for a stop.



 the license plates you've seen is from Morocco:

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/world/AF_MORO.html

(http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/AF_MORO_GI.jpg)

ApprenticeFan is wrong as usual - the footage is from Manama and thereabouts.

You are exactly right Granath. Bahrain and Morocco have their license plates similarities due to Arabic text.

(http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/AS_BAHR_GI.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 26, 2018, 09:20:55 PM
I'm not as sure. In the background you can see a fuel truck for Afriquia (http://www.afriquia.ma/), a petrol network that AFAIK doesn't do any business outside of Morocco.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: zuzuspetals on January 26, 2018, 10:38:20 PM
Another theory for next week: Could it be possible that we have two flights going to Prague? We have this picture at the Uturn board with the first 5 teams. I think they will be on the same flight, and that the last 3 teams will be on another flight (which is why team big brother Uturned the well strung guys) (Indy could be on either flight).

There was talk (if I remember right) about some teams being 3-4 hours behind in Prague...

I was shock to see who big brother Uturned, after seeing that the well strung guys were doing good, but not the strongest team there. If they were the last two teams there, then it would make sense, and it would also explained why team big brother are saying : our face is going to be on there, in the preview. Maybe the first 5 teams made a deal to not use the Uturn.

Yeah I was also wondering about the uturn usage. Not so much that Jody uturned Well Strung. They are/were a relatively strong team and Jody was friendly with the Skiers and Indycar, so I wouldn't expect Jody to uturn either of them. More so that the lifeguards seemed to be ahead of jody and didn't uturn them. Especially because Jess said recently that Brittany held the gnome thing over her for the entire duration of filming (She really does not like Brittany lol). I think they probably thought they were getting u-turned because they knew the lifeguards didn't like them, and they knew other teams viewed them as a threat.  I'm thinking the Skiers maybe talked them out of it? Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I think the lifeguards are U-turning Jody in a future leg  ...



Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Jro on January 26, 2018, 10:44:41 PM
Another theory for next week: Could it be possible that we have two flights going to Prague? We have this picture at the Uturn board with the first 5 teams. I think they will be on the same flight, and that the last 3 teams will be on another flight (which is why team big brother Uturned the well strung guys) (Indy could be on either flight).

There was talk (if I remember right) about some teams being 3-4 hours behind in Prague...

I was shock to see who big brother Uturned, after seeing that the well strung guys were doing good, but not the strongest team there. If they were the last two teams there, then it would make sense, and it would also explained why team big brother are saying : our face is going to be on there, in the preview. Maybe the first 5 teams made a deal to not use the Uturn.

Yeah I was also wondering about the uturn usage. Not so much that Jody uturned Well Strung. They are/were a relatively strong team and Jody was friendly with the Skiers and Indycar, so I wouldn't expect Jody to uturn either of them. More so that the lifeguards seemed to be ahead of jody and didn't uturn them. Especially because Jess said recently that Brittany held the gnome thing over her for the entire duration of filming (She really does not like Brittany lol). I think they probably thought they were getting u-turned because they knew the lifeguards didn't like them, and they knew other teams viewed them as a threat.  I'm thinking the Skiers maybe talked them out of it? Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I think the lifeguards are U-turning Jody in a future leg  ...

I was actually thinking that too. I think there were rumors back during filming that Jody got u-turned in Zimbabwe but overcame it. Would make sense if the Lifeguards were responsible for that.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on January 28, 2018, 05:26:53 AM
I'm not as sure. In the background you can see a fuel truck for Afriquia (http://www.afriquia.ma/), a petrol network that AFAIK doesn't do any business outside of Morocco.

That's just another example of lazy splicing from the editors because "all Arabic-speaking nations are interchangeable" /s, and besides, that clip had self-driving.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on February 08, 2018, 10:32:29 AM
If Yale knew between the end of Leg 9 and the start of Leg 10 that OceanRescue had been eliminated, then they might have strategically decided to go slow in Thailand knowing that it would be impossible to eliminate them for that round and therefore conserve their energy for HK.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: redskevin88 on February 11, 2018, 12:20:34 AM
If Yale knew between the end of Leg 9 and the start of Leg 10 that OceanRescue had been eliminated, then they might have strategically decided to go slow in Thailand knowing that it would be impossible to eliminate them for that round and therefore conserve their energy for HK.


It doesn't make sense. You could end up in last place :funny:.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Granth on February 11, 2018, 03:29:41 AM
Except that's the point.
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Post by: redskevin88 on February 11, 2018, 07:01:36 AM
Except that's the point.

Not worth it, you could risk elimination from the race. The racers wouldn't know beforehand if they would be leaving Thailand in Leg 11, and thus being able to potentially catch up on a flight. Even if they could catch up on a flight, they would still face a speed bump which would put them behind again.
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Post by: Marionete on February 11, 2018, 08:16:52 AM
Yeah, there's never any good reason to purposely fall behind.
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Post by: Granth on February 11, 2018, 02:00:44 PM
Potential risk of elimination =/= its guarantee.

Last non-Philippine Southeast Asian penultimate leg was Vietnam 27 seasons ago, plus Oceania stopped hosting them since the end of the same 13-leg era; savvy superfans can therefore wager that the 11th leg of recent eastward routes will for certain be in East Asia.

SBs are a minor setback that can be easily overcome.
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Post by: Granth on February 11, 2018, 02:05:37 PM
It looks like Evan will be eating scorpions while Henry wears them, so there goes the chance of a TARCAN-style strategic quit in order to save themselves from performing a gross Roadblock with the knowledge that it's NEL.
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Post by: Marionete on February 11, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
Potential risk of elimination =/= its guarantee.

Last non-Philippine Southeast Asian penultimate leg was Vietnam 27 seasons ago, plus Oceania stopped hosting them since the end of the same 13-leg era; savvy superfans can therefore wager that the 11th leg of recent eastward routes will for certain be in East Asia.

SBs are a minor setback that can be easily overcome.
All I'm saying is that there's no real gain in purposely not doing your best and falling behind.
"Saving your energy" isn't like you're skipping the leg, taking a day off. If that was an option, then you could call it a strategy. But when you still have to run the leg and perform all those same tasks, you get tired nevertheless. Walking to places rather than running won't save you enough energy to offset the disadvantage of getting worse tickets (back of the plane), or hell even risking a later flight for your team, coupled with a speed bump.

You can't say that speedbumps are easily overcome because that's situational. If there's a footrace for last place, or if you're literally minutes apart, then definitely the reason you were last is because you had that tiny extra task to complete.

I don't see how you can reason against that (don't mean this disrespectfully).
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Post by: Granth on February 11, 2018, 03:13:36 PM

All I'm saying is that there's no real gain in purposely not doing your best and falling behind.
"Saving your energy" isn't like you're skipping the leg, taking a day off. If that was an option, then you could call it a strategy. But when you still have to run the leg and perform all those same tasks, you get tired nevertheless. Walking to places rather than running won't save you enough energy to offset the disadvantage of getting worse tickets (back of the plane), or hell even risking a later flight for your team, coupled with a speed bump.

You can't say that speedbumps are easily overcome because that's situational. If there's a footrace for last place, or if you're literally minutes apart, then definitely the reason you were last is because you had that tiny extra task to complete.

I don't see how you can reason against that (don't mean this disrespectfully).

Fair enough - E/H don't seem like the types to take the easy way out, after all.
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 15, 2018, 09:24:49 AM
Hearing Cantonese from the preview is amazing <333333
I am looking forward to the order taking task :-*
Hopefully another good times since S14 Kisha & Jen  :bow:
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Post by: dryedmangoez on February 15, 2018, 04:43:49 PM
Judging from the edits, I would bet either Kristi & Jen to win with all the all-female team talk and their Top 3 dominance during the Race. Or Henry & Evan as the underdogs against the group of friends and maybe their Yale smarts finally coming into play on the Final Task? Otherwise, it's Cody & Jessica for the boring couple win. And maybe Jessica possibly losing the million for them after the comment she made last night with regards to Cody carrying most of the weight of the team.
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Post by: zuzuspetals on February 15, 2018, 08:57:16 PM
IMHO the edit (since early on) has clearly foreshadowed the skiers winning the race.

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Post by: Marionete on February 15, 2018, 10:07:09 PM
IMHO the edit (since early on) has clearly foreshadowed the skiers winning the race.
Agree.

I've had such mixed feelings about Jody edgically, though.
The last couple of episode especially, they were highlighted in a really positive, fun light, with very positive second-person visibility, as everyone kept making comments on how strong of a team they are, or how Cody's killing it in all tasks.
However, it was twice or maybe even 3 times that we heard the quote "I don't wanna be the reason we lose this race" from Jess, and that is... as obvious of a foreshadowing as it can be, in my opinion.
Really reminded me of Hayley from S26, and how Blair would never listen to her, but when he finally did for a crucial task in the finale, Hayley was the reason they fell behind quite a lot, and basically cost their team the million.

I would sure hate to see Jess be the reason they lose, and like I said, at first I thought that these last two episodes were setting them up as real winner contenders, but there's just overwhelmingly nothing negative to pinpoint in the girls' edit, that it makes me think they definitely win.
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Post by: Snausages on February 15, 2018, 10:58:41 PM
 I just hope it's not Big Brother that wins, Jessica is just too insufferable
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Post by: dryedmangoez on February 16, 2018, 01:40:31 AM
The edit has certainly never been a sure thing, most especially in recent seasons.

I definitely think Hayley was the most direct foreshadowing. And this time, Jessica's not wanting to "be the reason we lose a million dollars" popping up this week so prominently is similar to Hayley's quotes before about always being right (which she actually was most of the time).

Conversely, Henry & Evan have always talked about their smarts being what helps them overcome any physical limitations compared to the other teams. Yet their Yale smarts have failed them pretty much every time they've needed it. It's possible their smarts finally come into play on the Final Task.

For Kristi & Jen, they could just as easily be in a Natalie & Meaghan situation. Dominant the entire Race, just comes up short in the final.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ghostbusted on February 16, 2018, 01:10:21 PM
I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask this. I am embarrassed to admit that I can't remember or figure out what an ARI is. I know that RI is route info but I just can't figure out what the A is. Does anyone want to help me out?
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Post by: CocoNuts on February 16, 2018, 01:37:52 PM
This may not be the right place to put this but....

Switchback leg 6: Prague Franz RB, Eliminated Flightime and Big Easy Season 15
Switchback leg 11 (as per spoilers): Mandarin food ordering DT, Basically Eliminated Kisha and Jen Season 14

Both these teams later returned for Unfinished Business. Could this mean next season is an Unfinished Business?? That's the hint I'm getting!
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Marionete on February 16, 2018, 02:14:12 PM
I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask this. I am embarrassed to admit that I can't remember or figure out what an ARI is. I know that RI is route info but I just can't figure out what the A is. Does anyone want to help me out?
Haha, don't worry about it so much.
We call ARI an Active Route Info. It's basically a task, and not just a location for the next clue like a Route Info is.
For a Route Info, teams get directions. For an Active Route Info, everyone needs to complete a task to receive the next clue. :)
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Post by: ghostbusted on February 16, 2018, 04:18:30 PM
Thanks. That A really stumped me. Advanced? Automatic? Amazing? ...
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: dryedmangoez on February 16, 2018, 04:31:36 PM
I wonder if Jody announcing their engagement now instead of after the finale means they don't win. I mean, what bettertime to announce an engagement than after winning The Amazing Race right? Double good news hehe
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Post by: Jen #TeamExtreme on February 16, 2018, 06:11:45 PM
I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask this. I am embarrassed to admit that I can't remember or figure out what an ARI is. I know that RI is route info but I just can't figure out what the A is. Does anyone want to help me out?

Active Route Info. It's where you have a task to perform that isn't a detour or a roadblock in order to get your next clue (route info).
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Post by: Jro on February 16, 2018, 06:17:46 PM
I wonder if Jody announcing their engagement now instead of after the finale means they don't win. I mean, what bettertime to announce an engagement than after winning The Amazing Race right? Double good news hehe

Idk, looks like a pretty expensive ring lol
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Post by: NumfarPTB on February 16, 2018, 06:21:47 PM
I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask this. I am embarrassed to admit that I can't remember or figure out what an ARI is. I know that RI is route info but I just can't figure out what the A is. Does anyone want to help me out?

Active Route Info.

Which is Route Info that includes a task, not just a travel to somewhere sort of RI.
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Post by: Joberio on February 16, 2018, 09:49:22 PM
The edit has certainly never been a sure thing, most especially in recent seasons.

I definitely think Hayley was the most direct foreshadowing. And this time, Jessica's not wanting to "be the reason we lose a million dollars" popping up this week so prominently is similar to Hayley's quotes before about always being right (which she actually was most of the time).

Conversely, Henry & Evan have always talked about their smarts being what helps them overcome any physical limitations compared to the other teams. Yet their Yale smarts have failed them pretty much every time they've needed it. It's possible their smarts finally come into play on the Final Task.

For Kristi & Jen, they could just as easily be in a Natalie & Meaghan situation. Dominant the entire Race, just comes up short in the final.
I don't agree.  Last season, Brooke & Scott's edit (especially Brooke's) was overwhelmingly negative, but at least they got a very sharp, sudden up-turn in their edit the final two legs to at least not make their win feel so bad.  Before them, I can grant you Dana & Matt's edit, but even theirs wasn't that bad, either.  In fact, the worst edit for a winning team I've seen in recent seasons is either theirs or Laura & Tyler's.

My point?  I think the edit can be indicative of the winner.  Not always, but most of the time, yes, it is.
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Post by: Marionete on February 16, 2018, 10:31:11 PM
I feel like in S28, none of the F3 had an edit that screamed "winner".
But because of that, people started looking at whose edit made the most sense for a winner. And of course, nobody believed that Dana & Matt could win because of that.

In S26, Laura & Tyler's edit actually seemed the most positive to me, and I didn't have any doubt that they would win, especially heading into the finale. Jelani & Jenny were either completely INV or arguing with each other, and Hayley & Blair... well, they were the entertaining team that all casuals hated. :cmaslol Only looking back I realized that Luara & Tyler weren't as positive of racers as I thought they were, but out of their F3, I would still say their edit was most winner-like.

Last season, though, I thought that the edit clearly didn't favour Brooke & Scott, and Tara & Joey were the clear favorites to win edit-wise. However, I was a bit spoiled for the finale, and knew that Brooke & Scott likely left the final task first, so I can't judge without any bias.

So what do I make of this? I still feel like the final four teams besides Skiers all have those type of edits that qualify for the "whose win would make most sense?" category, but if the Skiers do make the final 3, then I definitely see them winning per their edit.
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Post by: chill_sd on February 16, 2018, 10:51:37 PM
I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask this. I am embarrassed to admit that I can't remember or figure out what an ARI is. I know that RI is route info but I just can't figure out what the A is. Does anyone want to help me out?
A=Active, meaning there is an activity involved which is not a detour or roadblock (nor just instructions to go to another location.)
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Post by: Lemontail on February 16, 2018, 11:00:57 PM
Don't know why in the intro Kristi & Jen was shown along with Golden Gate Bridge in the bottom left when neither any references to San Francisco are shown in the intro.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2018, 11:02:20 PM
Don't know why in the intro Kristi & Jen was shown along with Golden Gate Bridge in the bottom left when neither any references to San Francisco are shown in the intro.
What cap # are you referring to please? LINK?
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Post by: Lemontail on February 16, 2018, 11:26:01 PM
Don't know why in the intro Kristi & Jen was shown along with Golden Gate Bridge in the bottom left when neither any references to San Francisco are shown in the intro.
What cap # are you referring to please? LINK?

This cap is what I referring to. Coincidence?

(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)
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Post by: Marionete on February 16, 2018, 11:29:38 PM
Don't know why in the intro Kristi & Jen was shown along with Golden Gate Bridge in the bottom left when neither any references to San Francisco are shown in the intro.
San Francisco is the final city, though, so I don't know why that would be strange. :P

The surprising thing to me is that many other teams' backgrounds are completely unrelated to this season and the places visited.
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2018, 11:38:03 PM
Coincidence lol
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Post by: theschnauzers on February 17, 2018, 12:21:46 AM
Don't know why in the intro Kristi & Jen was shown along with Golden Gate Bridge in the bottom left when neither any references to San Francisco are shown in the intro.
What cap # are you referring to please? LINK?

This cap is what I referring to. Coincidence?

(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)
Truthfully I'm not sure that's even the Golden Gate Bridge; yes, it's a suspension bridge, but it isn't crossing a body of water. So that's not even a coincidence.
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Post by: Lemontail on February 17, 2018, 12:33:32 AM
Don't know why in the intro Kristi & Jen was shown along with Golden Gate Bridge in the bottom left when neither any references to San Francisco are shown in the intro.
What cap # are you referring to please? LINK?

This cap is what I referring to. Coincidence?

(https://i.imgur.com/asqLAcI.jpg)
Truthfully I'm not sure that's even the Golden Gate Bridge; yes, it's a suspension bridge, but it isn't crossing a body of water. So that's not even a coincidence.

Well, other backgrounds are exaggerated in relative size and location too.
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Post by: dryedmangoez on February 17, 2018, 02:47:26 AM
Well, there aren't very many iconic landmark red (international orange) suspension bridges that look like that.
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Post by: zuzuspetals on February 17, 2018, 07:33:23 PM
IMHO the edit (since early on) has clearly foreshadowed the skiers winning the race.
Agree.

I've had such mixed feelings about Jody edgically, though.
The last couple of episode especially, they were highlighted in a really positive, fun light, with very positive second-person visibility, as everyone kept making comments on how strong of a team they are, or how Cody's killing it in all tasks.
However, it was twice or maybe even 3 times that we heard the quote "I don't wanna be the reason we lose this race" from Jess, and that is... as obvious of a foreshadowing as it can be, in my opinion.
Really reminded me of Hayley from S26, and how Blair would never listen to her, but when he finally did for a crucial task in the finale, Hayley was the reason they fell behind quite a lot, and basically cost their team the million.

I would sure hate to see Jess be the reason they lose, and like I said, at first I thought that these last two episodes were setting them up as real winner contenders, but there's just overwhelmingly nothing negative to pinpoint in the girls' edit, that it makes me think they definitely win.


I don't see any 'Jess causes Jody to lose' scenario at all.  Weren't Jody running in third place towards the end of the spoilers ?  I see a straight-forward easy win for the skiers.

Jody received a really good positive edit at first, right up to the manufactured Gnomegate and Phonegate 'improprieties'.  They received no negative feedback/editing for properly Uturning the Strings.  Since they recovered from their own Uturn, they are being edited positively again, probably right through the finale.

Have we been shown any negativity between Jess and Cody, like we have been shown for the other teams, even with Jody's terrible navigating 'skills' coming into play again and again ?  I think that the TAR producers expected Jody to be their designated 'villain team' and they expected lots of infighting between them, and that never happened.
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Post by: Joberio on February 18, 2018, 02:42:55 AM
Jody received a really good positive edit at first, right up to the manufactured Gnomegate and Phonegate 'improprieties'.  They received no negative feedback/editing for properly Uturning the Strings.  Since they recovered from their own Uturn, they are being edited positively again, probably right through the finale.

Have we been shown any negativity between Jess and Cody, like we have been shown for the other teams, even with Jody's terrible navigating 'skills' coming into play again and again ?  I think that the TAR producers expected Jody to be their designated 'villain team' and they expected lots of infighting between them, and that never happened.
Actually, Cody's avoided having any negatively-edited moments, surprisingly, as I thought he'd be the one more liable to be edited that way.  It's Jessica who's had her share of "villain" moments, albeit small ones, like screwing Alex and Brittany over in Prague, which led to Lucas & Brittany U-Turning them in Harare, and making her "karma" comment about Lucas losing the passport.  So I think that if TPTB wanted them to be the villains, at least one of them has given them something with which to work.

Though if you read between the lines, the female half of the other F3 team has unintentionally given them even more than Jessica has.
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Post by: TravelTheWorld on February 19, 2018, 10:19:57 AM
I wonder if Jody announcing their engagement now instead of after the finale means they don't win. I mean, what bettertime to announce an engagement than after winning The Amazing Race right? Double good news hehe
They only announced their because someone sold it to TMZ and spilled the news first
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: Winteriscoming on February 20, 2018, 10:28:39 AM
The editing and the fact that Jen keeps hyping up the finale on social media makes me feel like Team Extreme won..

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Post by: ilovetoread on February 20, 2018, 03:45:29 PM
The editing and the fact that Jen keeps hyping up the finale on social media makes me feel like Team Extreme won..

Same. I will be happy with any winner, but Team Extreme and Big Brother are my favorite.
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Post by: Winteriscoming on February 20, 2018, 08:59:48 PM
The editing and the fact that Jen keeps hyping up the finale on social media makes me feel like Team Extreme won..

Same. I will be happy with any winner, but Team Extreme and Big Brother are my favorite.

well now Cody and Jess have been hyping up the finale a lot today so maybe they did win.. Not so sure anymore.. I am pretty confident in thinking Yale didn't win though..
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Post by: redskevin88 on February 21, 2018, 04:40:51 AM
Why are there no love for Alex/Connor guys?  :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Post by: Granth on February 21, 2018, 07:42:55 AM
Why are there no love for Alex/Connor guys?  :funny: :funny: :funny:

Because they're already out of contention.   :cmas29
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Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2018, 03:48:47 PM
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Post by: theschnauzers on February 21, 2018, 10:51:44 PM
Alex and Conor may have well revived the fourth place curse (fan favorites ending up in fourth place)
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Post by: Marionete on February 21, 2018, 10:53:56 PM
Isn't that Survivor's curse? :cmaslol
Anyway, I don't think Indy were favored over Skiers by most fans.
Title: Re: TAR 30: Speculation and Discussion of the **SPOILERS** WORKZONE!
Post by: ilovetoread on February 21, 2018, 11:22:22 PM
Alex and Conor may have well revived the fourth place curse (fan favorites ending up in fourth place)

Surely the fan favorites were the girls of Team Extreme?

Conor’s attitude the whole leg annoyed the crap out of me.