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Title: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2013, 06:16:47 AM
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Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2013, 06:17:40 AM
Scheduled start time is 8:00 PM EST, subject to football delays.

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Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Theo on November 24, 2013, 06:46:23 PM
Happy TAR day everyone :conf:

I can't wait to see the city in where I'm currently studying on TV screen :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Dånooky on November 24, 2013, 07:02:15 PM
I think it might be safe to say we'll be getting quotes from Marie before the intro until the finale :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:03:27 PM
And Detroit has a 10 minute delay. :res: I'll try to get a stream that works for me, but my internet sucks.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redwings8831 on November 24, 2013, 07:04:13 PM
And Detroit has a 10 minute delay. :res: I'll try to get a stream that works for me, but my internet sucks.

yeah we've been stuck with the late game most weeks this year :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: paldog123456 on November 24, 2013, 07:04:38 PM
And Detroit has a 10 minute delay. :res: I'll try to get a stream that works for me, but my internet sucks.

As always... we are used to it around here. (And the Lions were a disappointment today, too, so it's just a bad television day all around...).
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:10:40 PM
Sorry, missed the first few minutes.

Nicole & Travis arrive at the airport and find out that everyone will be on the same flight to Bandung, Indonesia.

Afghanimals are about 2 minutes late to their scheduled pit stop arrival... They don't seem to mind... They seem quite cheerful about leaving late, LOL. Ally & Ashley are there, lol. They both leave at 2:06 AM.

Afghanimals and Nicole & Travis are at the airport... Travis tells them that the Brandon & Adam U-Turn was part of the reason for the U-Turn. Afghanimals think that ER doctors will break soon with pressure.

All teams are heading to Bandung on the same flight...

All teams are getting cabs... Nicole & Travis in 1st. Boston are last right now.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:14:20 PM
ER doctors see the cluebox. Route info: Search for trucks. Take head-butting rams to a festival... Once their rams have butted heads, then take them back on the truck, lol.

Nicole & Travis get their rams first. Ally & Ashley are next. Nicole & Travis are first at the arena. The rams start going at each other, lol. Ally & Ashley are there too. Nicole & Travis' rams are finished ramming. :lol: Ally & Ashley enjoy the atmosphere. Lots of cheering.

Nicole & Travis get the next clue. Route info: Go to Rancaekek Station. Travel by train back to Bandung. Once there, they will find their next clue.

Afghanimals get the rams. Afghanimals have some rambunctious rams. Tim & Marie get their route info clue. Girls are out while Jason & Amy arrive. Afghanimals make some obnoxious noises as they take their rams to the arena... They're worse than the rams.

Jason & Amy arrive at rams and start taking their rams. Afghanimals finish the task.

Ally & Ashley arrive at the train station first. Train leaves in 12 minutes... Nicole & Travis are on the same train. Ally & Ashley are excited about being on the same train as Nicole & Travis, LOL.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:16:44 PM
Tim & Marie leave to the train station. Jason & Amy are done the task... Tim & Marie are having taxi troubles... Their taxi broke down. Jason & Amy say that Tim & Marie didn't get the chance to steal their cab this time. :funny:

Ally & Ashley and Nicole & Travis are waiting for their train to leave... It's late departing... Afghanimals made it on the train. Nicole & Travis aren't pleased. Afghanimals are so loud and annoying, omg.

Nicole & Travis are told by someone that the train leaves in 1 minute...

Jason & Amy arrive at the train station.

Afghanimals say their wife is pregnant, lol.

The train leaves without Jason & Amy... They barely missed it.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 24, 2013, 07:19:18 PM
Jason asking Amy if Indonesia had Indian or Chinese locals was hilarious. Better than Nathan's comment about Taiwan (Thailand).
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:25:04 PM
And we're back at the train station. Jason & Amy have to wait an hour now... Tim & Marie arrive... And they find out they have to wait an hour now. Amy's upset that it's head to head against Tim & Marie... Tim & Marie are confident they can beat JAmy.

First train arrives. Detour: For the Elephants or For the Birds.

For the Elephants: Visit a market. Pick up 8 watermelons, 2 bunches of bananas, 1 dozen sweet potatoes and 5 stalks of sugar cane. Go to the Bandung Zoo and feed the elephants.
For the Birds: Pick up 2 peach-faced lovebirds and deliver them to an arena. Enter the competition arena, and encourage their bird to sing. Once they've been scored, they will get their next clue.

Ally & Ashley pick elephants...

Leo & Jamal are at the market. They're being loud and obnoxious there too. Shut up omg. They're loading the stuff into their taxi.

Nicole & Travis are doing birds. They pick up their matching birds. Now they're off to the arena.

Ally & Ashley are looking for their trolley.

Leo & Jamal have their sugar cane stalks partially out of the window because it's so large.

Nicole & Travis take their birds and hang their cages on these hooks. They try to make their birds sing...
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:28:49 PM
The second train arrives... Amy's pretty upset about barely missing the train. Tim & Marie think they can beat Jason & Amy.

Ally & Ashley are still at the zoo... They realize they have to go to the market to pick up their stuff first... :groan:

Afghanimals are loading their stuff on the trolley. They kept their scarves from Abu Dhabi and it made it easier to transport the stuff. Wow, smart.

Nicole & Travis are trying to make their birds sing... They liked being in the moment... One of their birds is singing... And Nicole & Travis are super pumped. They're jumping around. All the locals are cheering! They're done the detour. Route info: Saung Angklung Udjo. They're feeling super energized now.

Ally & Ashley get dropped off at the market. Except they let their taxi go? Now they have nothing to load their stuff in...

Afghanimals: "Crazy Americans coming through." No, just annoying ones. They're looking for the elephants.

Second train arrives. Jason & Amy pick elephants. Tim & Marie pick elephants because Marie wants to see elephants.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
Ally & Ashley can't load their 5 stalks of sugar cane into their taxi... It won't fit. They say that they don't want to carry the stalks for another hour because it'll waste too much time. They are bickering... They switch to do birds. Ashley said she wanted to do birds first. Ally isn't having any of it. Oh man. Tons of arguing.

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 24, 2013, 07:31:19 PM
At first I liked Ally & Ashley, but after their more-than-annoying-Marie arguing, never again. Seriously, I feel bad for the taxi driver.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:37:56 PM
Ashley and Ally do some more arguing, and now they're at the zoo.

Jamal: "I come in peace." Afghanimals feed their elephants... They're done the detour in 2nd.

Wait, Ally & Ashley decided to do elephants still? Weird. I thought they switched. They're loading watermelons on their trolly. Afghanimals exit as Ally & Ashley are loading their watermelons. Ally & Ashley don't have sugarcanes with them so they'll have to go back for a second trip.

Nicole & Travis arrive at the roadblock...
Roadblock: Assemble an angklung. They will have to assemble the instrument and play an octave.

Nicole does the roadblock. Travis doesn't think Nicole knows that the bar-things have to be different lengths.

Amy was smart and used blankets to load all their stuff. Exes arrive at the market. They both load their taxis.

Afghanimals arrive at the roadblock. Leo is doing the roadblock. They're so obnoxious omg. They're dancing. I probably would like it more if it weren't them. :res:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 24, 2013, 07:40:48 PM
The Indonesian kids as a judge! :hrt: "Nooooo....Yeeeees!"
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:42:29 PM
Ice girls unloaded all their stuff. They're going back for their sugar cane. Jason & Amy are trying to deliver their stuff... Jason's fruits on the trolly keep falling apart. We have a rolling watermelon! Tim & Marie also have all their stuff falling off the trolley.

Travis is watching Nicole building the instrument... She only has 4 notes... Travis knows that she needs 8...

Jason & Amy are done the detour in 3rd. Exes are done right after in 4th. Girls get their sugar cane. Ally & Ashley for the title.

Leo displays his instrument. Jamal is yelling for him to go. Nicole goes to get her instrument checked first while Leo goes to display his instrument. Why is he so annoying. Nicole's instrument doesn't get approved. Leo's instrument plays an octave... Except the stand is not correct.

Jason & Amy arrive at the roadblock. Amy is doing it.

Tim & Marie arrive at the roadblock. Tim & Marie go back and forth with their roadblocks... Except Marie tells Tim to go... Tim has a musical background. He played piano, he was in choir, and now he's teaching himself how to play the guitar. LOL.

Ally & Ashley feed their elephants. They have calmed down now. Ashley says she's confident that they fell from 1st to last.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
Nicole can't play an octave on her instrument... Leo goes to get his instrument checked. It's correct. He's done the roadblock in first. Jamal: "LEO, DESTROY YOURS SO NOBODY CAN SEE."

Nicole then runs to the checking area to try to see... Omg lol. Leo then runs trying to not let Nicole see his instrument. Confessional with Nicole saying that she wanted to run the race in an honest way. Confessional with Afghanimals calling Nicole & Travis hypocrites...

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: SamualDude on November 24, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
To be honest, I don't blame Leo for not letting Nicole see it.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Mister RC on November 24, 2013, 07:50:33 PM
Moral victory for Jason and Amy. Not another 2nd place painful finish
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:51:15 PM
And we're back with Nicole going to try to see Leo's instrument. And Leo runs out being super obnoxious... Proceed to the pit stop. Pit stop: Bosscha Observatory. The last team to check in may be eliminated.

Tim finishes... He goes to get his instrument checked out. It's approved! Tim & Marie are out of the roadblock in 2nd. Marie says she made Tim do it, and she's right, lol.

Travis is super frustrated.

Marie says Afghanimals are literally a minute ahead of them...

Afghanimals arrive at the pit stop in 1st. Kill me. :res: Tim & Marie arrive shortly after. They're team #2. Afghanimals won $7500 EACH? WHAT.

Pit stop:
1st - Leo & Jamal
2nd - Tim & Marie
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 24, 2013, 07:52:16 PM
Jason & Amy are going to get a penalty! :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: alecbaldwin on November 24, 2013, 07:54:24 PM
Can I call Jamy dump? They help the strongest team out the only time they're in trouble.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:55:06 PM
Amy goes to get her instrument checked... It's approved. Jason & Amy are done the roadblock in 3rd. Ally & Ashley arrive at the roadblock. Nicole is still struggling. Jason tells Amy to go help Nicole. Omg. They're so nice. Ally & Ashley arrive in...

Omg. Nicole is having an epic meltdown. Jason is telling Amy to come. Amy puts the bars in order for Nicole. Jason is frustrated that Amy spent so long helping Nicole because they could get lost on the way to the pit stop... Oh man. Nicole's meltdown is contageous, lol.

Nicole finally finishes the roadblock. They're out in 4th. Ashley is still doing the roadblock. Travis isn't very pleased.

Jason & Amy arrive at the pit stop in 3rd. They're team #3. Travis & Nicole arrive at the pit stop in 4th. Nicole gives a huge hug to Amy. Travis & Nicole are team #4. Travis is speechless.

Pit stop:
1st - Leo & Jamal
2nd - Tim & Marie
3rd - Jason & Amy
4th - Travis & Nicole
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 24, 2013, 07:56:45 PM
Thank goodness for the elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redskevin88 on November 24, 2013, 07:57:36 PM
Thank goodness for the elimination.

BOO!

Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 07:57:43 PM
Ashley is assembling her instrument. Ally says she knows that they're in last. She says it's disappointing that they started out the leg so well and now they're in last. Ashley finishes the roadblock. Ally says she doesn't want it to end because they've been having so much fun...

Ally & Ashley run to the mat... They're the last team to arrive... And they've been eliminated from the race. :ascared They're so happy that they've been to 7 countries. And they say that they've made friends with Afghanimals. They say that their goal was to be top 5 and have fun, and they say they accomplished it. :hrt:

Pit stop:
1st - Leo & Jamal
2nd - Tim & Marie
3rd - Jason & Amy
4th - Travis & Nicole
5th - Ally & Ashley (ELIMINATED)
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Dånooky on November 24, 2013, 07:58:55 PM
Ice girls totally deserved to be eliminated. And Jamy totally personify the concept of Honor Before Reason
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 08:00:35 PM
Next week on The Amazing Race...

Marie meets her match with snakes... "I'm not eating a snake."

Teams are applying makeup to each other?

Leo & Jamal reach the end of their rope... They've having trouble finding something in a field...
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Quoc Nghia on November 24, 2013, 08:00:41 PM
Why did Jamy help Nicole? I want to see her meltdown more.  :funny: I don't like the Ice girls but it's sad to see them gone.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 24, 2013, 08:00:54 PM
Next leg looks interesting
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: alecbaldwin on November 24, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
Didn't Jamy want to win? If they did, they wouldn't done it. Now I'm cheering for Tim & Marie to win. I would take the opportunity to get rid Travis & Nicole any day in my life.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on November 24, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
Why did Jamy help Nicole? I want to see her meltdown more.  :funny: I don't like the Ice girls but it's sad to see them gone.

I wanted to see the meltdown continue too. :-[ Would have been great drama.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Mister RC on November 24, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
Hats off to Amy. Didn't need to see another scenario where a team destined to lose ends up surviving and winning. Will miss Ashley & Ally, but Travis & Nicole are too good to leave
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Bookworm on November 24, 2013, 08:05:28 PM
Didn't Jamy want to win? If they did, they wouldn't done it. Now I'm cheering for Tim & Marie to win. I would take the opportunity to get rid Travis & Nicole any day in my life.
THIS
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on November 24, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
Thanks for a really good job, Polaroid
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: alecbaldwin on November 24, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
Hats off to Amy. Didn't need to see another scenario where a team destined to lose ends up surviving and winning. Will miss Ashley & Ally, but Travis & Nicole are too good to leave

How about another scenario of boring hockey guys? I can't believe there's anyone call keeping strong teams in the competition is a smart move. I would take the ice girls to the finale any day in my life. They are too weak to get rid.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Bookworm on November 24, 2013, 08:14:43 PM
Hats off to Amy. Didn't need to see another scenario where a team destined to lose ends up surviving and winning. Will miss Ashley & Ally, but Travis & Nicole are too good to leave

How about another scenario of boring hockey guys? I can't believe there's anyone call keeping strong teams in the competition is a smart move. I would take the ice girls to the finale any day in my life. They are too weak to get rid.
I agree. Alliances aside, Jamy should have left Travis & Nicole to their own devices. Jamy hasn't won a leg yet, and it's because the ER docs are still in the Race. Ally and Ashley are a guaranteed last place in the F4. Why WOULDN'T you want to keep them in the Race?!?!?
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Quoc Nghia on November 24, 2013, 08:18:19 PM
I think that Jamy was stupid to help ERs but I like to keep them than the girls. They were boring and didn't do anything well the whole race.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 24, 2013, 08:24:46 PM
LEG 9 (United Arab Emirates --> Indonesia) Analysis
Indonesia, the country that has provided so many underwhelming Legs, finally comes through! The editing was pretty good and nobody was forgotten (obviously because there are only 5 teams left). I really like how this Leg was unpredictable with team placement changes. The tasks were great at featuring animals (elephant, parakeets, rams) and little details made these tasks a lot more challenging.

DETOUR: For The Birds or For The Elephants
The task design for both choices were pretty good. The Songbird Grand Prix looked easy, but waiting for the transported bird to sing took time which Travis & Nicole eventually cheered it out. The food for the elephants was tough as teams had to have a good balancing act at the zoo to reach the elephant quicker. Better yet, having a good taxi driver was also necessary to transport the sugarcane there or teams may end up like Ally & Ashley. What's with uniforming the Detour-Roadblock style route though?
DETOUR SCORE: 8/10

ROADBLOCK: Anklung Assembling
This was a really good task to be honest. It left Nicole to go against her tip and made her look bad to over 7 to 9 million viewers. (Don't forget the AMA's are on ABC, not hoping for a huge number.) :funny: Making the cute Indonesian kids the judges signatured this task. This task is time-consuming if you didn't have assembly skills or knowing what an octave meant.
ROADBLOCK SCORE: 9/10

OTHER RANDOM SCORES:
SOUNDTRACK USE SCORE: 6/10
MARIE-ACTING-LIKE-A-BIT¢H SCORE: 4/10
KARMA SCORE: 10/10
ANIMALS-BEING-ADORABLE SCORE: 9/10 (The rams are the reason why it didn't reach at least 10)
INDONESIAN CHILDREN CUTENESS SCORE: 100/10 :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Bookworm on November 24, 2013, 08:26:30 PM
I think that Jamy was stupid to help ERs but I like to keep them than the girls. They were boring and didn't do anything well the whole race.
I know, but from a competition standpoint, the teams left have a 1/4 chance of winning 1 million dollars. Jamy would be more likely to win if the Ice Girls were in the Race than if the ER docs were in.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Dånooky on November 24, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
...What's with uniforming the Detour-Roadblock style route though?...
It gives the show a nice retro vibe
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Bookworm on November 24, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
...What's with uniforming the Detour-Roadblock style route though?...
It gives the show a nice retro vibe
I agree about the retro part, as it was Detour--> Roadblock for all of the first 3 seasons, and for most of 4. However, whether it is good or not is debateable. I personally prefer it more mixed up, and most of the time, the Roadblocks are more linear than the Detours, making the latter half of the episode more boring (with the exception of Leg 9).
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 24, 2013, 08:37:48 PM
I agree about the retro part, as it was Detour--> Roadblock for all of the first 3 seasons, and for most of 4. However, whether it is good or not is debateable. I personally prefer it more mixed up, and most of the time, the Roadblocks are more linear than the Detours, making the latter half of the episode more boring (with the exception of Leg 9).
This, a mix of Roadblock-Detour with Detour-Roadblock is a lot more unpredictable. Remember when Aja & Ty thought they were most likely in last in New Zealand after the Detour, and apparently Marisa & Brooke took a longer time at the kiwi stomp? I love team reactions to find out they aren't last after a Detour.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Bookworm on November 24, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
I agree about the retro part, as it was Detour--> Roadblock for all of the first 3 seasons, and for most of 4. However, whether it is good or not is debateable. I personally prefer it more mixed up, and most of the time, the Roadblocks are more linear than the Detours, making the latter half of the episode more boring (with the exception of Leg 9).
This, a mix of Roadblock-Detour with Detour-Roadblock is a lot more unpredictable. Remember when Aja & Ty thought they were in last in New Zealand after the Detour, and apparently Marisa & Brooke took a longer time at the kiwi stomp? I love team reactions to find out they aren't last after a Detour.
I agree completely!
Another example could be in All-Stars Leg 5 (Maputo, Mozambique) when Charla & Mirna, Dustin & Kandice, and Teri & Ian jumped from the middle/pack of the pack to the front (by far) by choosing the better Detour.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2013, 08:48:42 PM
:tu Polaroid!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zachary on November 24, 2013, 09:42:15 PM
First of all, can't believe Indonesia provides us with one of the best leg this season  :hoot:

usually Indonesian legs are straight forward. But knowing the fact that two teams that were actually one hour behind could catch up in the middle of tasks, and not because of a traffic jam or their taxi getting lost or something, really speaks volume on how well-designed this leg actually was 

The Goat-Fighting was okay. It shows culture I suppose

The Detour was good, both sides had a quite clear objective. Although in "for the elephants" detour, I wonder how far is the market from the zoo? It can't be too far, especially when you need to bring sugar canes in a taxi, a TAXI! The sugar canes could hit some of the cars on the street, and that ain't gonna look good.

The Roadblock was great!!!
It changes the whole placements almost completely!
Ass-animals went from 2nd to 1st. Not stoked about it but anyway, good for them.
Timarie went from 4th to 2nd
Jamy still were at 3rd, but actually they passed Tracole in this task whom went from 1st to 4th
And the Icegirls could possibly catch up if Amy just left Nicole out in the cold.

We need to see who wins this whole thing. If Tracole ends up bringing the whole money home, then Jamy should look back at this particular leg and better start to rethink their "goody-two-shoes-we-want-to-help-our-friend" thing that they kept doing cause this leg could possibly be their only shot at sending Tracole home.

Well unless Jamy won this season, then they probably could get in line with Josh and Brent to become one the nicest teams to ever win the race
 ;)

The pit-stop was good. Phil said it was what, 4300 feet above sea level? or 43000?   :ascared
and thank god it was an elimination (i called it before folks) cause the whole fiasco that's happening in this leg was too good to make it a non elimination
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zachary on November 24, 2013, 10:06:47 PM
btw, after they finished the RB, Tracole got into a car instead of a taxi...
while other teams used taxis

what's happening there?
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Vitoko on November 25, 2013, 12:52:57 AM
I really don't know what to think about this leg...

I found the Ram task little bit pointless, nice culture reference but little bit pointless... it just separated the teams and created a tense moment between the back of the pack... I think I answer my own question...

I really like the detour just because it was a simple concept but it was nice to show off both Elephants and also that bird cage market looked so cool to just be a bird cage market O.o

LOVED the roadblock, I wish I was the one doing it... that leads me to how I have more respect for Tim, because of his musical background and how he and Marie talk instead of scream before doing it

Ice girls totally deserved to be eliminated. And Jamy totally personify the concept of Honor Before Reason

It was Ally&Ashley time to go home, they ran more than they probably should've... Also Amy helping Nicole, I understand why she did it, Nicole was struggling really hard with the roadbloack when she just needed to keep it together and looking at it from a different perspective, I guess it just wasn't clicking for her...

I'll say this again though, I'm a bit disssapointed for both Travis attitude of "embarrassment" to Nicole instead of being supportive to his partner and Nicole performance in the roadblock... Let's hope is their worst leg, although I think we have seen this coming from Leg 1 taxi mistake or Leg 2 with the roadblock where she also lost her cool...

I just can't stand Leo&Jamal anymore, I know they are having fun with the race and everything but they are so annyoing for me, I just can't stand them...
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on November 25, 2013, 06:02:50 AM
Just watched the episode.

I loved it! This makes last season's Indonesia episode look kinda bad despite John's refusal to use the Express Pass.

Judging by editing, Ally & Ashley's elimination was edited to be quite sad :lol:  :( Why did the editors wait so long to feature them? I was kind of starting to like them.

(Speaking of "sad eliminations" who remembers when every elimination used to be SO sad? I've been watching some TAR 5 and such :lol: )
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Platrium on November 25, 2013, 07:01:55 AM
This leg was a lot better than I expected. ;) The spoilers were great, but I didn't expect this episode to be as amazing as the other Indo legs.
-The ram thingy was an uh... :crazy: But it shows culture, so it prob'ly wasn't that bad. :) Plus, I think it would be even more entertaining if I were in a racer's shoes watching the rams fight.
-The taxi karma! :cheer:
-The Afghanimals bribing and Leo saying that his wife is... something. (didn't hear that part) :funny:
-The train scene avoids an equalizer. :luvya:
-The detour was good, definitely better than the Vienna detour. The elephants look fun. :hearts: For me, the birds look more boring. Anyway, the detour was great! :)
-The roadblock was amazing! :conf: The background, the culture, the placement jumbling - They were all amazing! The most amazing part of the roadblock is the cute kids!!! :luvya: :hrt: :hearts: :conf: :cheer: They're just too cute!!! :hugs:
-ER Docs falling from 1st to 2nd to the last was... woah! The 1st time I checked the spoilers, I was wondering what happened to them, since they arrived 1st and left 4th.
-The Afghanimals were very active this leg. They were more active than any other leg. Even when they were late. :funny:
-The ER Docs and Afghanimals' drama added some great spice to this leg.
-This legs karma was awesome! :wohoo:
-Jamy helping Nicole was... good? They were very nice to help them, but in this stage of the race, it's... really up to the team, and Jamy decided to help them. Wow! :o
-ER Docs & Ice Girls flunking was a pitiable part of the leg. ER Docs because of the roadblock. :stare
-Ice Girls made such a horrible mistake. They could've at least gotten... 2nd to the last? :funny: Not making the big mistake in the detour could have them race for at least 2 more legs.
-I thought in was NEL this leg. :pity I was expecting the Ice Girls to survive for another desperate leg.

TAR legs are more amazing with the Indo legs. :funny: :funny: :funny: Although I should feel sick about Indonesia being visited by TAR 3 seasons in a row :res: , the culture just makes the Indo legs great! :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 25, 2013, 08:28:17 AM
Lol at everyone who thought this leg was a NEL. (including myself)

This has to be one of my favourite legs after Europe as well. The Detour was refreshing, something we haven't seen on the race and the Roadblock required more skill and brains than just plain brutal, follow the rules type of task.

Love the starting task where teams had to deliver rams and watch them fight too. To be honest, this is definitely one of the better Indonesian legs in all 4 seasons we have seen so far.

Ally and Ashley getting eliminated when they didn't cheat? Wow. It could have been Nicole and Travis if they haven't been help by Jason and Amy.

Nicole and Travis... are completely my least favourite team right now. I've seen Travis being unsupportive of his wife.. but oh God, calling your wife an embarrassment just because she cannot complete a task. What? At least Tim and Marie are being real and mean to each other and they are just being true to themselves. N/T on the other hand, talks about being light of God and wanting to set an example... by cheating? I mean, nothing wrong with Nicole begging for Amy's help, but that was just so wrong trying to peep at Leo and Jamal, even after you U-TURNed them?

Somehow I think Ally and Ashley really screwed themselves. Had they been a little faster and Ally and Ashley were actually at the task, Leo and Jamal might actually stop to help them. A good team to bring to the F4 in fact.

Everything rocks this leg, except for the results. I wished Ally and Ashley stayed... but sometimes you can't have everything.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 25, 2013, 08:31:33 AM
And must I say... Leo and Jamal and Tim and Marie are slowly getting a more positive edit?

More of Leo and Jamal and gotta give them probs for totally embracing the local's culture this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: ianthebalance on November 25, 2013, 08:35:39 AM
And must I say... Leo and Jamal and Tim and Marie are slowly getting a more positive edit?

More of Leo and Jamal and gotta give them probs for totally embracing the local's culture this leg.

Tim and Marie are getting a more positive edit. Leo and Jamal got a VERY bad edit leg 8.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Lutpay on November 25, 2013, 08:38:34 AM
And must I say... Leo and Jamal and Tim and Marie are slowly getting a more positive edit?

More of Leo and Jamal and gotta give them probs for totally embracing the local's culture this leg.

When I looked on the spoilers back there, I thought the Detour will make me sleep when it airs, but I was wrong <3

I agree. Leo/Jamal might be manipulative, but it's just about the race strategy. They really enjoy the culture and friendly with the locals.

This leg is the BEST edit for Tim/Marie, like.. everything goes right about them.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 25, 2013, 08:46:28 AM
And must I say... Leo and Jamal and Tim and Marie are slowly getting a more positive edit?

More of Leo and Jamal and gotta give them probs for totally embracing the local's culture this leg.

Tim and Marie are getting a more positive edit. Leo and Jamal got a VERY bad edit leg 8.

They didn't.. I think. They lied to the doctors long before and it seemed to me just like a build up to this episode, where Nicole and Travis had such a big deal about people lying and they themselves being the hugeass bad example. Leg 8 was kind of neutral for them and I would say positive even. They completed the task and U-TURN with heads held high.

To be honest, I think people who pretend to be morally upright and self-righteous when they are not are even worse than people who are just real/mean etc. I don't know how I'm going to make this sound not negative or right, but the U-TURN lie that keeps being shown, seems to pale in comparison to Travis's unsupportiveness and calling her wife an "embarrassment" and of course Nicole attempting to peep her way through the RB.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: jetishidae on November 25, 2013, 08:54:49 AM
oh wow this is the best Indonesian leg by far in TAR history, but judging from the preview the next leg in Bandung will also be good.
I really love the For the Elephant detour. All of them choose it because they wanted to see elephant  :funny:
it's pretty cute  :funny:

this episode has the best display of karma.
first for Tim&Marie, their Taxi broke down and letting Jason & Amy who got their cab stolen by T&M pass them
and the second of course for Nicole&Travis

Anyway, i really like how Marie is putting so much trust on Tim during the RB.
and she's not yelling  :yess:
is it just me or she's seems to be in a good mood during this leg, even though they missed the train and their taxi broke down?
maybe it's because of the elephant

Feel indifferent about Ally & Ashley elimination
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 25, 2013, 09:19:00 AM
^^ I get what you mean. If Nicole and Travis haven't got such a bad edit this leg, I won't be easily swing and manipulated to feel sad for the Ice Girls. To be honest, they can be really entertaining (look at the quotes they have delivered two episodes in a row!), just that I guess with so many teams with big personalities this season.. it's hard to outshine them. :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Lutpay on November 25, 2013, 09:28:53 AM
^^ I get what you mean. If Nicole and Travis haven't got such a bad edit this leg, I won't be easily swing and manipulated to feel sad for the Ice Girls. To be honest, they can be really entertaining (look at the quotes they have delivered two episodes in a row!), just that I guess with so many teams with big personalities this season.. it's hard to outshine them. :(

As much as I like Ice Girls Ally, I'm rooting for Amy more than anyone else right now, I'll be upset if they're not winning this whole thing. She's such a sweetheart.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zachary on November 25, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Anyway, i really like how Marie is putting so much trust on Tim during the RB.
and she's not yelling  :yess:
is it just me or she's seems to be in a good mood during this leg, even though they missed the train and their taxi broke down?
maybe it's because of the elephant

LOL!  :funny:
I also think it's because they were probably what, like more or less than 1 hour behind, and they were last to arrive at the detour, but managed to pass three teams before checking in at the pit-stop. I mean that was pretty impressive on their part. Kinda remind me when The Country singers just breezed through that balancing on stilts roadblock in Bora-Bora and went from being last to also passing three teams before checking in at the pit-stop. How long was Tim doing that roadblock, like 5 minutes? And how long was Nicole doing that roadblock?  ;) :funny:

As much as I want Jamy to finally win a leg, I wish Timarie won this leg to be quite honest...  :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: WinTar on November 26, 2013, 06:25:51 AM
My comments on the leg:

Ram task was good and showed a part of their culture. :)

The Detour was also good, but I felt like the birds seemed a lot easier to do than the elephants.

Last but not the least, the Roadblock. I totally loved it! :hearts:
It looked hard to do especially in the midst of a loud environment, it was both difficult but at the same time fun and cultural.

The Pit Stop was also a great location. Loved it!

Overall, a good-great leg in Bandung. Looking forward to next week, looks promising! ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on November 26, 2013, 08:54:21 AM
i'm glad most people loved this episode, although i'm sad at the same time reading comments on Facebook page (animal abuse)  :(
The detour was fine, but the roadblock  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
And Bosscha Observatory was a great choice for the Pit Stop  :luvya: 
The pit stop greeter is Dan Nicky. He is a musician from Chicago. He lived for 3 years in Bandung and compose songs for Indonesian children. I like him, but i was hoping local people as pit stop greeter.
Btw.. am i the only one who is rooting for the Afghanimals?  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: whatever on November 26, 2013, 10:49:21 AM
i'm glad most people loved this episode, although i'm sad at the same time reading comments on Facebook page (animal abuse)  :(
The detour was fine, but the roadblock  :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
And Bosscha Observatory was a great choice for the Pit Stop  :luvya: 
The pit stop greeter is Dan Nicky. He is a musician from Chicago. He lived for 3 years in Bandung and compose songs for Indonesian children. I like him, but i was hoping local people as pit stop greeter.
Btw.. am i the only who is rooting for the Afghanimals?  :funny:
I'm rooting for them too!  :hrt:
But I also read a lot of spoilers on this forum ;).
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Bookworm on November 26, 2013, 06:25:20 PM
And must I say... Leo and Jamal and Tim and Marie are slowly getting a more positive edit?

More of Leo and Jamal and gotta give them probs for totally embracing the local's culture this leg.
I agree completely! I'm very happy about their edit, as I've liked them since the beginning.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 26, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
There was no animal abuse? :groan: If these rams head butt each other in the wild, they call it natural instinct and what animals do, but when humans set them up for it, they term it animal abuse?

I mean come on, it's not like they let them head butt each other till death. It was a local culture and I would instead see it that conservative people (and maybe some self righteous ones) are completely insensitive to culture.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redskevin88 on November 26, 2013, 09:56:14 PM
There was no animal abuse? :groan: If these rams head butt each other in the wild, they call it natural instinct and what animals do, but when humans set them up for it, they term it animal abuse?

I mean come on, it's not like they let them head butt each other till death. It was a local culture and I would instead see it that conservative people (and maybe some self righteous ones) are completely insensitive to culture.

You don't know American conservative people. Everything different that's not American they don't like.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 26, 2013, 11:53:56 PM
There was no animal abuse? :groan: If these rams head butt each other in the wild, they call it natural instinct and what animals do, but when humans set them up for it, they term it animal abuse?

I mean come on, it's not like they let them head butt each other till death. It was a local culture and I would instead see it that conservative people (and maybe some self righteous ones) are completely insensitive to culture.

You don't know American conservative people. Everything different that's not American they don't like.
I agree with Jobby. It's the rams' natural instincts to butt heads since they want to see whose horns are tougher, guessing both rams were males. Nobody or nothing was injured, it's part of a cultural and animal knowledge reference, and it's all in the fun and games for local Indonesians.

I have heard so many real animal abuse incidents like those vile and sickening dog fights Mexican cartels have organized (those beings just INFURIATE me! (:;) ) that have the audacity to let the losing dog die on the "spot". The ram task isn't abuse at all. Nature on PBS have shown moose butting heads and kangaroos kickboxing each other; it's natural instinct. Sorry, I just had to get that out there.

Here's a saying: "If you want to jump to conclusions, research it first."
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on November 26, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
There was no animal abuse? :groan: If these rams head butt each other in the wild, they call it natural instinct and what animals do, but when humans set them up for it, they term it animal abuse?

I mean come on, it's not like they let them head butt each other till death. It was a local culture and I would instead see it that conservative people (and maybe some self righteous ones) are completely insensitive to culture.

You don't know American conservative people. Everything different that's not American they don't like.
I agree with Jobby. It's the rams' natural instincts to butt heads since they want to see whose horns are tougher, guessing both rams were males. Nobody or nothing was injured, it's part of a cultural and animal knowledge reference, and it's all in the fun and games for local Indonesians.

I have heard so many real animal abuse incidents like those vile and sickening dog fights Mexican cartels have organized (those beings just INFURIATE me! (:;) ) that have the audacity to let the losing dog die on the "spot". The ram task isn't abuse at all. Nature on PBS have shown moose butting heads and kangaroos kickboxing each other; it's natural instinct. Sorry, I just had to get that out there.

Here's a saying: "If you want to jump to conclusions, research it first."

I thought rams could only be male :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: maf on November 27, 2013, 01:29:08 AM
I have a question about this episode. How could Jason & Amy and Tim & Marie catch up with the front teams? Their train left one hour later, but still they caught up with the front teams at the road block. I can thing of a few possible explanations:

1. They got a faster train so they were much less than an hour after when they reached Bandung. But this feels unlikely since the distance between the stations is apparently just 17km, so the ride should be fairly quick.

2. Traffic was better so they could drive faster

3. The road block took a really long time. But this does not jibe with the fact that Leo seems to finish it fairly quickly. And Nicole, who really struggled, say she spent 40 minutes there.

Does anybody have any insights into this?
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redskevin88 on November 27, 2013, 03:23:18 AM
I have a question about this episode. How could Jason & Amy and Tim & Marie catch up with the front teams? Their train left one hour later, but still they caught up with the front teams at the road block. I can thing of a few possible explanations:

1. They got a faster train so they were much less than an hour after when they reached Bandung. But this feels unlikely since the distance between the stations is apparently just 17km, so the ride should be fairly quick.

2. Traffic was better so they could drive faster

3. The road block took a really long time. But this does not jibe with the fact that Leo seems to finish it fairly quickly. And Nicole, who really struggled, say she spent 40 minutes there.

Does anybody have any insights into this?

1. Nicole was being untruthful (no surprises there).
2. They got on a different train than shown, or perhaps the conductor lied. 
3. Teams struggled at the detour.
4. Tim & Marie and Jason & Amy did their detour quickly.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Platrium on November 27, 2013, 04:10:52 AM
I have a question about this episode. How could Jason & Amy and Tim & Marie catch up with the front teams? Their train left one hour later, but still they caught up with the front teams at the road block. I can thing of a few possible explanations:

1. They got a faster train so they were much less than an hour after when they reached Bandung. But this feels unlikely since the distance between the stations is apparently just 17km, so the ride should be fairly quick.

2. Traffic was better so they could drive faster

3. The road block took a really long time. But this does not jibe with the fact that Leo seems to finish it fairly quickly. And Nicole, who really struggled, say she spent 40 minutes there.

Does anybody have any insights into this?

1. Nicole was being untruthful (no surprises there).
2. They got on a different train than shown, or perhaps the conductor lied. 
3. Teams struggled at the detour.
4. Tim & Marie and Jason & Amy did their detour quickly.

They did the roadblock faster too. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Bookworm on November 27, 2013, 08:51:22 AM
There was no animal abuse? :groan: If these rams head butt each other in the wild, they call it natural instinct and what animals do, but when humans set them up for it, they term it animal abuse?

I mean come on, it's not like they let them head butt each other till death. It was a local culture and I would instead see it that conservative people (and maybe some self righteous ones) are completely insensitive to culture.

You don't know American conservative people. Everything different that's not American they don't like.
I agree with Jobby. It's the rams' natural instincts to butt heads since they want to see whose horns are tougher, guessing both rams were males. Nobody or nothing was injured, it's part of a cultural and animal knowledge reference, and it's all in the fun and games for local Indonesians.

I have heard so many real animal abuse incidents like those vile and sickening dog fights Mexican cartels have organized (those beings just INFURIATE me! (:;) ) that have the audacity to let the losing dog die on the "spot". The ram task isn't abuse at all. Nature on PBS have shown moose butting heads and kangaroos kickboxing each other; it's natural instinct. Sorry, I just had to get that out there.

Here's a saying: "If you want to jump to conclusions, research it first."
Exactly. It's natural instinct for Rams to but heads to see who's the Alpha. It's Indonesian culture, and they understand that it's natural. However, if people are too conservative to understand different cultures, they they'll dislike it. It's like visiting the Plane Crash site last season. Many people complained and called it "un-American." How is it wrong to visit a memorial? It's not un-American to visit the USS Arizona Memorial in Peal Harbor, or to visit the Vietnam Memorial in DC, so how is it wrong to visit the Crashed Plane Memorial in Hanoi? Some people sadly are just to judgemental and misinterpret everything that has to do with culture.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 30, 2013, 09:48:33 AM
There was no animal abuse? :groan: If these rams head butt each other in the wild, they call it natural instinct and what animals do, but when humans set them up for it, they term it animal abuse?

I mean come on, it's not like they let them head butt each other till death. It was a local culture and I would instead see it that conservative people (and maybe some self righteous ones) are completely insensitive to culture.

You don't know American conservative people. Everything different that's not American they don't like.
I agree with Jobby. It's the rams' natural instincts to butt heads since they want to see whose horns are tougher, guessing both rams were males. Nobody or nothing was injured, it's part of a cultural and animal knowledge reference, and it's all in the fun and games for local Indonesians.

I have heard so many real animal abuse incidents like those vile and sickening dog fights Mexican cartels have organized (those beings just INFURIATE me! (:;) ) that have the audacity to let the losing dog die on the "spot". The ram task isn't abuse at all. Nature on PBS have shown moose butting heads and kangaroos kickboxing each other; it's natural instinct. Sorry, I just had to get that out there.

Here's a saying: "If you want to jump to conclusions, research it first."
Exactly. It's natural instinct for Rams to but heads to see who's the Alpha. It's Indonesian culture, and they understand that it's natural. However, if people are too conservative to understand different cultures, they they'll dislike it. It's like visiting the Plane Crash site last season. Many people complained and called it "un-American." How is it wrong to visit a memorial? It's not un-American to visit the USS Arizona Memorial in Peal Harbor, or to visit the Vietnam Memorial in DC, so how is it wrong to visit the Crashed Plane Memorial in Hanoi? Some people sadly are just to judgemental and misinterpret everything that has to do with culture.
And that FOX controversy specifically ruined TAR22's chances for an Emmy. :'(
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Kamineko on November 30, 2013, 10:04:25 AM
I think nobody posted this. Teams got $31 for this leg of the race. ;)

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Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on November 30, 2013, 10:41:59 AM
wow... $31?? i don't think it was enough to pay train ticket from Rancaekek to Bandung and then taxi from Bandung station - Simpang Dago - Bandung zoo - Saung Angklung Udjo - Bosscha observatory. maybe they still have money from previous leg.
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: redskevin88 on December 01, 2013, 02:28:42 AM
wow... $31?? i don't think it was enough to pay train ticket from Rancaekek to Bandung and then taxi from Bandung station - Simpang Dago - Bandung zoo - Saung Angklung Udjo - Bosscha observatory. maybe they still have money from previous leg.

If I recall correctly, teams got US$1 the previous leg.

Smart teams do build up a stash of money though....
Title: Re: TAR 23 East Coast EP 9 SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: David on December 01, 2013, 03:03:40 AM
They usually receive lots of money in European countries and on the very first legs of the race. They hardly ever run out of money.