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Title: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2013, 04:18:18 PM
 
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This is where all the spoiler speculation/discussion of the TAR 23 race goes, NOT in the LIVE thread.
 
**NEW** Let's try keeping all the confirmed LOCATION info together so it is easier to find. So anything about a location we are sure of can go HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28796.new.html#new).
 
All info about TEAMS can go in the Contestant thread HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28795.0.html).
 
 
As always, per RFF's practices, we do not spoil the start location (if known) or any teams until it is believed that the teams are safely underway. We would never want to jeopardize a team's chances or to interfere with the start. But if you have info to share before then, we would love to know, so please PM or email me! Spoilers are treasured!
 
This thread will be opened once we know for sure the race has begun.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2013, 04:19:18 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2013, 04:19:31 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on June 09, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
We have the blondes at gate 40..
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on June 09, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
We have the blondes at gate 40..

Gate 40 has American Airlines flight 2448 to Dallas, leaving at 1:40 PM.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZBC Company on June 09, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
if go dallas that mean one thing south america
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on June 09, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
if go dallas that mean one thing south america

Or Central America/Carribean
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 09, 2013, 02:48:01 PM
A couple of thoughts to keep in mind, based on past seasons:

If there's one flight headed to Dallas as a connector there's often a second flight that connects via Miami if the teams are headed to South America.

If teams were to be heading to Central America or the Carribbean, then a Miami connection would make more sense.

And if somehow, teams are connecting to Europe (always a possibility) the Race will have to avoid areas of central Europe that are experiencing flooding after heavy rainfall from a storm over the past few days. (Hungary and countries surrounding it at a minimum. It's the same storm that caused flooding in the central U.S. a couple of weeks ago and not the tropical storm that went up the east coast of the U.S. during the past few days.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 09, 2013, 03:10:10 PM
Doesn't TAR not start flying teams until late in the day or night at the airport? Isn't it a little early in the day for them to fly?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 09, 2013, 03:12:06 PM
Doesn't TAR not start flying teams until late in the day or night at the airport? Isn't it a little early in the day for them to fly?

Evidently not
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 09, 2013, 03:17:30 PM
You know guys, there's a huge amount of tweets with the tag "amazing race" but talking about the Canadian GP. That makes a little more difficult to survey the sightings. Who knows, maybe it's not a coincidence...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on June 09, 2013, 03:17:48 PM
Doesn't TAR not start flying teams until late in the day or night at the airport? Isn't it a little early in the day for them to fly?

Perhaps they have to get to their destination earlier because its going to be a long leg (I hope)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on June 09, 2013, 04:07:45 PM
Flights leaving MIA tonight flight is delayed it wont arrive till 10:26 pm tonight


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Spec.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 09, 2013, 04:13:54 PM
I just checked & Dallas today has flights to Lima, Buenos Aires, & Sao Paulo. I believe we an safely assume that Buenos Aires isn't an option- they just went there in S20
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on June 09, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
I'm wondering if the photo of the cheerleaders taken at Gate 40 were on the LAX-Miami flight departing from Gate 41 and Dallas isn't a connection point.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on June 09, 2013, 04:37:22 PM
I am predicting/hoping they will go to Lima.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 09, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
Could they be headed for Los Angeles, Chile from Los Angeles, California?....I always wondered if they would do this, similar to TAR20 with Santa Barbara, CA to Argentina!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Joeyengen on June 09, 2013, 04:49:51 PM
I am predicting/hoping they will go to Lima.


There going to Chile :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on June 09, 2013, 04:51:11 PM
I am predicting/hoping they will go to Lima.


There going to Chile :)

I posted this before Chile was revealed. Chile is awesome anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 09, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
 :stare
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 09, 2013, 04:58:12 PM
I hope they break the whole Chile => Argentina thing
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on June 09, 2013, 05:23:41 PM
I hope they break the whole Chile => Argentina thing

How about Chile>Bolivia. from Iquique or Arica.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on June 09, 2013, 05:35:42 PM
Weather in Chile for Monday, June 10

Santiago: 75F, Sunny
Arica: 67F, Partly Cloudy
Antofagasta: 62F, Mostly Sunny
Iquique: 65F, Mostly Sunny

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 09, 2013, 05:35:49 PM
I hope they break the whole Chile => Argentina thing

How about Chile>Bolivia. from Iquique or Arica.

That would be welcomed greatly as opposed to an overused country
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 09, 2013, 05:48:05 PM
I'm guessing they will due Brazil because of the World Cup next year. And maybe they can do some sort of task relating to Confederations Cup which starts Saturday.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on June 09, 2013, 05:54:31 PM
I'm guessing they will due Brazil because of the World Cup next year. And maybe they can do some sort of task relating to Confederations Cup which starts Saturday.

Brazil is better off as a first two legs country (TAR2, TAR9, TAR13) than a later leg country (TAR18/UB).
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 09, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
I kind of have a feeling that Santiago isn't the final destination, I'm thinking there might be a domestic flight to somewhere in Chile.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 09, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
So the teams are heading to Chile!  I hope they go to Brazil next -- and maybe visit Manaus!  I used it for my Fantasy Amazing Race story and my Amazing Race:  Winner's Edition game/story, so I hope it gets used for real!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 09, 2013, 06:03:20 PM
A couple of thoughts to keep in mind, based on past seasons:

If there's one flight headed to Dallas as a connector there's often a second flight that connects via Miami if the teams are headed to South America.

This is one time where the producers' past behavior was a total predictor. And yes, they have used Dulles for a South American connection, although I would have to go through all those seasons to tell you when.

I have no problems with Chile or southern Argentina; both are very beautiful areas and the show has had some excellent legs there. I would love to see the library detour task return as a Switchback -- it was a great task the first time around, and I'd enjoy seeing that one again.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hinagiku on June 09, 2013, 06:03:41 PM
It would be interesting if they travel to somewhere such as Arica since TAR has never visited that particular northern part of Chile.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 09, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
I would LOVE to see Easter Island... but i guess that's a little difficult.  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on June 09, 2013, 07:23:06 PM
In regards to moving onto Brazil, I don't think it'll happen, or they at least will stay away from some cities, due to the confederations cup. It would make more sense to visit next season anyways, since the leg will air closer to the actual date of the World Cup.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on June 09, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
And are we 100% sure on Chile?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 09, 2013, 07:36:36 PM
My understanding is that Chateau got confirmation of Chile through the money exchange at LAX.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on June 09, 2013, 07:49:50 PM
I'm guessing they will due Brazil because of the World Cup next year. And maybe they can do some sort of task relating to Confederations Cup which starts Saturday.

This is about the 20th season in a row where someone has said "<Big Sporting Event> is about to happen in <insert city or country here>. I'm guessing TAR will go there."

It NEVER happens. They may go to Brazil this season, but it won't have anything to do with next years World Cup or the Confederations Cup. If they do anything soccer/futbol related in Brazil, the description will be generic. "Brazil is a soccer mad country. At this roadblock, teams must score on a penalty kick, etc."

If they go to a World Cup venue, it will be a few seasons down the road after the World Cup has been held.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cosmophobia on June 09, 2013, 11:16:51 PM
Domestic? Why? It's my understanding that everytime the race comes to SouthAmerica they do in on summer. Corect me if i'm wrong but this may be the first time for a winter visit, and if that is the case, I see 2 possibilities:

1 From Santiago they would go to the ski resorts in the andes (just a couple of hours away), as we are in snow season. I can't think of any other place in Chile that couldn't be visited during summer.

2 Then, somehow, going to MacchuPicchu or the andean Bolivia. The weather in summer in those places makes them hard to visit, while winter is pleasent.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on June 09, 2013, 11:25:21 PM
I also speculate there's gonna be only one leg in Chile. They usually only spent one leg in first destination in odd-numbered seasons

Domestic? Why? It's my understanding that everytime the race comes to SouthAmerica they do in on summer. Corect me if i'm wrong but this may be the first time for a winter visit, and if that is the case, I see 2 possibilities:

1 From Santiago they would go to the ski resorts in the andes (just a couple of hours away), as we are in snow season. I can't think of any other place in Chile that couldn't be visited during summer.

2 Then, somehow, going to MacchuPicchu or the andean Bolivia. The weather in summer in those places makes them hard to visit, while winter is pleasent.

It's gonna be interesting to visit South America in winter <333 I'm really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 10, 2013, 12:13:26 AM
Thanks, you guys are unbelievably fantastic. I love the name team duck dynasty.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DavidJunior on June 10, 2013, 02:05:19 AM
I swear, if this ends up being just another stinking Chile/Argentina combo, I might just :tantrum

The only *potentially* redeeming thing of that is the slim, outside chance that they do a chocolate finding/meat eating Switchback in there somewhere.

Two quality tasks right there.

However, I find that very unlikely...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: WinTar on June 10, 2013, 06:06:31 AM
Just came back from school, and this already started! :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on June 10, 2013, 07:16:35 AM
My understanding is that Chateau got confirmation of Chile through the money exchange at LAX.

You sure they didn't confuse Chilean peso with Brazilian real and they are actually going to Brazil?  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 10, 2013, 07:22:25 AM
I also speculate there's gonna be only one leg in Chile. They usually only spent one leg in first destination in odd-numbered seasons.
It's been 3 years that they didn't visit Chile, since season 16. So, I think that there will be two legs in there because Chile has more to serve. :)

Anyway, where is the Starting Line?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 10, 2013, 08:07:57 AM
Iquique is a great place of the want to continue to Bolivia or Peru in car, by bus or plane (to Bolivia).

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 10, 2013, 10:58:50 AM
Domestic? Why? It's my understanding that everytime the race comes to SouthAmerica they do in on summer. Corect me if i'm wrong but this may be the first time for a winter visit, and if that is the case, I see 2 possibilities:

1 From Santiago they would go to the ski resorts in the andes (just a couple of hours away), as we are in snow season. I can't think of any other place in Chile that couldn't be visited during summer.

2 Then, somehow, going to MacchuPicchu or the andean Bolivia. The weather in summer in those places makes them hard to visit, while winter is pleasent.

If they go to Macchu Picchu, I'll flip!  I had the teams go there for the Pit Stop in my Amazing Race:  Winner's Edition game/story!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 10, 2013, 02:28:59 PM
I was also thinking Peru, since Iquique is in Northern Chile.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 10, 2013, 02:31:28 PM
Iquique has flights to destinations in Chile only besides La Paz, Bolivia.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 10, 2013, 03:16:10 PM
I wonder if there is going to be another season 7 or 13-style route again. After Chile, it looks like Peru's side of Lake Titicaca or Arequipa will be visited.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jlim201 on June 10, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Where was the starting line?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 10, 2013, 03:48:30 PM
Where was the starting line?

For the 47474739th time its not known atm :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 10, 2013, 05:51:33 PM
I am excited about Chile again. If Season 16 really is the last time it was visited, than it is definitely due!

I am totally wondering what happened to the 11th team. I really hope there aren't only 10 teams! The only thing worse would be another Starting Line elimination. (Please, no!)

However, it is entirely possible that the 11th team just slipped by without being noticed. Maybe they were grouped with all the other teams the entire time they were at the airport, and nobody noticed that they were a separate team. :lol:

As for the route, what they should do to be unpredictable is make a jump from South America to Africa. I don't think that has ever happened before - normally it's a jump to Europe!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 10, 2013, 06:01:52 PM
They did it on the second season and it was a nightmare... but it could work right now.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 10, 2013, 06:03:37 PM
They did it on the second season and it was a nightmare... but it could work right now.

That's right! I didn't remember it because I've never watched that season before. Thanks! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 10, 2013, 06:19:41 PM
They did it on the second season and it was a nightmare... but it could work right now.

That's right! I didn't remember it because I've never watched that season before. Thanks! :tup:

And All Stars
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mug Costanza on June 10, 2013, 06:25:23 PM
They did it on the second season and it was a nightmare... but it could work right now.

That's right! I didn't remember it because I've never watched that season before. Thanks! :tup:

And All Stars


And TAR7. ;)

It would definitely be awesome if they did Africa next though. South America to Europe is so predictable. I know it drives others RFF'ers crazy, but I don't mind when we completely lose track of the race for a few days... :P
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 10, 2013, 06:33:36 PM
It was only a few seasons ago that they finally did South America to Oceania/Australia, but IIRC, All Stars was the first time the Racers were able to fly directly from South America to Africa without connecting through a third continent.

At this point, any direction is possible other than the U.S., so I wouldn't rule anything else out.

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on June 10, 2013, 06:44:30 PM
Judging by the pit stop photo I posted in the sightings thread, it looks like the Afghanimals are safely through to leg 2.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 10, 2013, 06:54:24 PM
Yeah, that seems to be the case. And the pit stop was in Arturo Prat Square, next to the Clock Tower.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mandoli on June 10, 2013, 07:29:55 PM
Screwed up, posted this in the wrong thread... But I'm mildly depressed that it's another LAX start.

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on June 10, 2013, 09:36:08 PM
since they're already filming in Iquique, Chile which is near to the countries of Peru and Bolivia, probably after that leg they'll drive or ride on a bus/train either to those countries.  OR, hopefully they'll fly westward to Easter Island because that place are very exotic and famous for monolith statues there. :<3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 10, 2013, 10:24:40 PM
Oddly enough, it just occurred to me that when Alex Boylan did his on-camera season of Around the World For Free, He did enter Chile from Peru through that area, and went to Iquique at the time of an earthquake, so there were problems communicating with him and his camera-IT man at that point. (And Alex went there after going to  Machu Picchu, so that may we;; be worth the speculation)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 10, 2013, 10:52:30 PM
All the racers seen in Iquique were probably on the Miami flight, the FF cheerleaders and FF pink/orange and the MM Afghanimals. Also on that flight were the MM blacks, MF green bandanas on packs.
The Dallas flight got to Santiago 2 hours later at 9:30AM.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 10, 2013, 11:19:15 PM
All the racers seen in Iquique were probably on the Miami flight, the FF cheerleaders and FF pink/orange and the MM Afghanimals. Also on that flight were the MM blacks, MF green bandanas on packs.
The Dallas flight got to Santiago 2 hours later at 9:30AM.

Where did guy and pink/blonde girl go?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 11, 2013, 12:27:53 AM
Good question. Don't know the answer. The other 2 on Miami MM black, and FM with green bandanas on pack not seen, nor any on the DFW flight, that I know of. Unknown what flight for MF tall guy and blonde-pink. Still only counting 10 teams.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DavidJunior on June 11, 2013, 12:37:32 AM
I'm really confused... there can't really be only 9/10 teams can there?

I'm really hoping pink hair is a team and that there's another secret one somewhere...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 11, 2013, 12:39:23 AM
I think there was a report of 6 couples paragliding. Maybe the MF tall guy with blonde-pink girls was 6th on the Miami flight, and therefore the 6th paraglider. What happened to the 4 DFW couples? Is there an 11th team?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 11, 2013, 12:49:30 AM
There has to be an 11th team. :tantrum Hope the detectives identify them before they get eliminated. :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2013, 12:57:20 AM
^^Done! Coming soon!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 11, 2013, 02:24:43 AM
Found these couple of pics posted on Instagram Iquique approx.24hrs ago...

Just spec of one of the tasks  by the way, not sighting I guess...



(http://i.imgur.com/HFN21dA.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/IhfHft8.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 11, 2013, 02:52:50 AM
Phil Keoghan had been paragliding in Iquique before.

Go for It Episodes 2004, TV Show

Episode Detail: Paragliding in Chile - Go for It
"Paragliding in Chile" follows Phil Keoghan as he sails through the skies of Iquique. Included: paragliding safety precautions, equipment and technique.

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=286622&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=894648
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 11, 2013, 11:20:26 AM
NICE one, Xarles!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on June 11, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
Me says 2 more legs South America, fly to Europe for 2 to 3 more legs and its Asia baby all the way. I have a feeling Africa will be skipped this season. Or maybe just one leg there.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 11, 2013, 12:34:50 PM
Highways A-1 and A-16 leading south from Iquique to Iquique airport IQQ will be or have been closed sometime today due to some controlled "mining blasts" on the way.

Hans Kurt Gotterbarm
‏@hansgotterbarm
Hoy realizarán tronaduras y habrá suspensión de tránsito en rutas A-1 y A-16  http://www.soychile.cl/Iquique/Sociedad/2013/06/11/179442/Hoy-realizaran-tronaduras-y-habra-suspension-de-transito-en-rutas-A1-y-A16.aspx?utm_source=Destacadas&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=Botones+Sociales … #Iquique #AltoHospicio #Tarapacá

9:33 AM - 11 Jun 13

There will be blasts and there will be traffic closures on routes A-1 and A-16.

(The town of Alto Hospicio, 1500 feet above Iquique, is where paragliders take-off from)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on June 11, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
There were plenty of tweets about highway closures and explosive blasting yesterday as well. It must be an ongoing project.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 11, 2013, 02:22:10 PM
The Estrella newspaper from Iquique mentions that yesterday's greeter was Pamela Díaz.

Notice her recent silence (black-out) even when she is an active tweeter.

http://www.twitter.com/pamelafiera
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: kiki on June 11, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
The article from the newspaper that Plaidmoon posted at the live section talks about 8 pairs running in Iquique that were spotted.
We know that at the first flight from Miami were only 7 teams, so I wonder if one of the last teams somehow caught up with the first flight, (unless of course the article is wrong, always a possibility!).
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 11, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
The Estrella newspaper from Iquique mentions that yesterday's greeter was Pamela Díaz.

Notice her recent silence (black-out) even when she is an active tweeter.

http://www.twitter.com/pamelafiera

Pamela Diaz was the greater in the Santiago leg of TAR 7 too.  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: kiki on June 11, 2013, 02:28:19 PM
The Estrella newspaper from Iquique mentions that yesterday's greeter was Pamela Díaz.

Notice her recent silence (black-out) even when she is an active tweeter.

http://www.twitter.com/pamelafiera

I think that the article mentions that Pamela Diaz was the greeter in Santiago back in TAR 7(?) dressed in mapuche (native indian) costume, not that she was the greeter now. Fot the greater now it just says that she is a model.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 11, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
So based on what we have so far...

Teams sighted at the Pit Stop:
Team Interracial *or* Black Couple M/F
Team Afghanimals M/M
Team African-American M/M
Team Bingo M/M
Team Red/Pink with black bags F/F

Teams on the first flight:
Team Interracial *or* Black Couple M/F
Team Afghanimals M/M
Team African-American M/M
Team Cheerleaders F/F
Team Red/Pink with black bags F/F

I would assume that Team Bingo M/M (the previously missing team) and team Pink/Blonde hair M/F were also on the first flight, since they were grouped with other first flight teams in the Chile sightings. Also, since the first flight seems to have arrived a while before the second, it appears (barring any catastrophes for the remaining first flight teams) that the following teams (all on the last flight) will be fighting for last place on Leg 1 and possible elimination.

Last Flight Teams:
Team Older Couple M/F
Team Blue M/M
Team Boston M/F
Team Duck Dynasty M/M

Here are the other two teams who also aren't confirmed as having checked in.

First Group Teams who weren't seen checking in:
Team Cheerleaders F/F
Team Pink/Blonde Hair M/F

Someone please correct me if I made any errors.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Joeyengen on June 11, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
So based on what we have so far...

Teams sighted at the Pit Stop:
Team Interracial *or* Black Couple M/F
Team Afghanimals M/M
Team African-American M/M
Team Bingo M/M
Team Red/Pink with black bags F/F

Teams on the first flight:
Team Interracial *or* Black Couple M/F
Team Afghanimals M/M
Team African-American M/M
Team Cheerleaders F/F
Team Red/Pink with black bags F/F

I would assume that Team Bingo M/M (the previously missing team) and team Pink/Blonde hair M/F were also on the first flight, since they were grouped with other first flight teams in the Chile sightings. Also, since the first flight seems to have arrived a while before the second, it appears (barring any catastrophes for the remaining first flight teams) that the following teams (all on the last flight) will be fighting for last place on Leg 1 and possible elimination.

Last Flight Teams:
Team Older Couple M/F
Team Blue M/M
Team Boston M/F
Team Duck Dynasty M/M

Here are the other two teams who also aren't confirmed as having checked in.

First Group Teams who weren't seen checking in:
Team Cheerleaders F/F
Team Pink/Blonde Hair M/F

Someone please correct me if I made any errors.


Pics ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 11, 2013, 08:33:29 PM
Pics ???

It's based on all the pics in the updates thread and the contestants thread. I'm just trying to put all of the information in one place.

The Pit Stop check-ins are confirmed by the pics from the Chilean newspaper that Plaidmoon(?) posted, and then the pics from Peach of Team Bingo and Team Interracial Couple M/F near the mat. Flight information is taken from Dom's timeline thread, plus the addition of the two other teams whose flights were not known who were spotted in the Roadblock sighting pics with the first flight teams. That's where it all came from. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: briangwen7 on June 11, 2013, 11:08:59 PM
:D Love this!!!  :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 12, 2013, 01:03:12 AM

Afraid and Aware of Peach will get angry more.. I just posted here..



Persi  ® ‏@persiwiwi 1h
Plaza Prat #iquique #chile @ Iquique http://instagram.com/p/abmCXKE-VR/



I don't really think they're related to TAR, but here's the pic:



(http://i.imgur.com/S9zUZQE.jpg)


This looks like a PITSTART to me. Remember that the first teams may have checked in by 1 or 2 or so so a night start would be right.

And reports are that of the 4 clocks, none have the right time. :lol:


This pic below was taken not long after the above picture, you can see a group of people still mingling around on the right side and there's a couple standing in the middle of the tower, if this turns out to be a pit start, oh well..



(http://i.imgur.com/N2galMA.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: docol on June 12, 2013, 10:25:28 AM
appareantly, an earthquake just hit a place near San Pedro de Atacama...

OSoluciones ‏@o_soluciones 3h View translation
Alerta: sismo de magnitud 4.2 Ml a 86 km al SE de San Pedro de Atacama fecha y hora UTC: 2013/06/12 09:09:10

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 12, 2013, 10:33:24 AM

I smell a TAR-20 ish... Going to rural desert village...

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 12, 2013, 10:37:20 AM
Peach was speculating busses being used at the beginning of leg 2; I'm wondering if that might be taxis or even self-driving. (When TAR previously went to that same desert (TAR 11) if I recall correctly, they self-drove.)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: stunami on June 12, 2013, 11:11:12 AM
If they are going to San Pedro, then we have a Salar de Uyuni leg for sure!
I went there last summer, and the town of san pedro is empty, there is nothing to do there except some sandboarding, and biking. But it's the closest town to the Salar, wich is an amaing thing to see! And it's really easy to cross the boarder + even if there are some tourist that may see, they can report for a good 3 days because there is no wifi in the desert!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2013, 11:13:06 AM
No...what I meant was that it is not clear how teams travel to San Pedro...plane to Calama and then bus? Bus should be involved.

This appears to be a split leg of some sort...half outside Iquique and then the rest in San Pedro? :duno:
 






 
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 12, 2013, 11:15:16 AM
They could have gone to Antofagasta by bus and from there go to San Pedro performing several tasks along the way with self-driving. It's similar to TARLA 3 leg 8 but they went from San Pedro - Calama to Antofagasta with some tasks in the middle.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2013, 11:17:47 AM
Bus should be involved.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2013, 11:18:52 AM
That could be a possibility, self driving is always good!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 12, 2013, 11:29:25 AM
What is telling us that they left for San Pedro, Calama, Antofagasta or the Salar at Uyumi? I must have missed something.

If they were bused out, there is also a possibility they could be in southern Peru, like Cuzco/Machu Picchu or remotely Cochabamba in Bolivia kind of backtracking the past Bolivian leg.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 12, 2013, 11:35:43 AM
Leg 2 began in Iquique, and then continued outside the city. Following a task, teams may have continued onwards to San Pedro de Atacama yesterday for the rest of the leg. Bus travel?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 12, 2013, 03:43:24 PM
This is reall weird...this dude says he thinks there were only 5 teams left.??  :crazy:

Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 2m
@doco86 lo q te puedo decir es que era ya una etapa bien avanzada, pq solo quedaban 5 equipos.
TRANSLATION: The only thing i can say it was a very advanced leg, because there were only 5 teams left
 
Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 7m
@doco86 luego de la Plaza de Armas supe q seguían con pruebas en la Cascada de Las Ánimas, en el Cajón. Sorry por no poder ayudarte
TRANSLATION: After "Plaza de Armas" i knew they were still doing the tasks at the "Cascada de las Ánimas", in the "Cajòn". Sorry for no being able to help you.

 Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 7m View translation
@doco86  lamentablemente yo no pq mi celular esta malo. Si había mucha gente sacando fotos, aunque la mayoría ni tenía idea de q era.
TRANSLATION: Sadly, i couldn't take pictures because my phone isn't working. There were tons of people taking pictures, even tough most of them had no idea what it was.

I'm sure if they were racing in Plaza de Armas we would have seen a lot more info about it on twitter. To me it looks like he got confused. As you may have noticed twitter is wildly popular in Chile  :wohoo:

EDIT: It seems we are getting more info  :stare

This is getting weird.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 12, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Maybe a sudden change of plans? ???

appareantly, an earthquake just hit a place near San Pedro de Atacama...

OSoluciones ‏@o_soluciones 3h View translation
Alerta: sismo de magnitud 4.2 Ml a 86 km al SE de San Pedro de Atacama fecha y hora UTC: 2013/06/12 09:09:10
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 12, 2013, 04:15:34 PM
Maybe a sudden change of plans? ???

appareantly, an earthquake just hit a place near San Pedro de Atacama...

OSoluciones ‏@o_soluciones 3h View translation
Alerta: sismo de magnitud 4.2 Ml a 86 km al SE de San Pedro de Atacama fecha y hora UTC: 2013/06/12 09:09:10

Or something similar to TAR20's Argentina's legs.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 12, 2013, 04:22:04 PM
Maybe a sudden change of plans? ???

appareantly, an earthquake just hit a place near San Pedro de Atacama...

OSoluciones ‏@o_soluciones 3h View translation
Alerta: sismo de magnitud 4.2 Ml a 86 km al SE de San Pedro de Atacama fecha y hora UTC: 2013/06/12 09:09:10

Or something similar to TAR20's Argentina's legs.

What happened?... i don't remember.  :knock:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 12, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
After the Detour of the 2nd leg in Salta they travel by bus to Buenos Aires to do the RB and check in the PS.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 12, 2013, 04:34:18 PM
Oh yeah... i thought he was talking about some incident.  :tantrum

Hopefuly we'll get more info... from the descriptions it seems they are going to Cajon del Maipo outside Santiago. It is a beautiful place but it takes some time to get there.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cosmophobia on June 12, 2013, 05:35:18 PM
This is reall weird...this dude says he thinks there were only 5 teams left.??  :crazy:

Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 2m
@doco86 lo q te puedo decir es que era ya una etapa bien avanzada, pq solo quedaban 5 equipos.
TRANSLATION: The only thing i can say it was a very advanced leg, because there were only 5 teams left
 
Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 7m
@doco86 luego de la Plaza de Armas supe q seguían con pruebas en la Cascada de Las Ánimas, en el Cajón. Sorry por no poder ayudarte
TRANSLATION: After "Plaza de Armas" i knew they were still doing the tasks at the "Cascada de las Ánimas", in the "Cajòn". Sorry for no being able to help you.

 Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 7m View translation
@doco86  lamentablemente yo no pq mi celular esta malo. Si había mucha gente sacando fotos, aunque la mayoría ni tenía idea de q era.
TRANSLATION: Sadly, i couldn't take pictures because my phone isn't working. There were tons of people taking pictures, even tough most of them had no idea what it was.

I'm sure if they were racing in Plaza de Armas we would have seen a lot more info about it on twitter. To me it looks like he got confused. As you may have noticed twitter is wildly popular in Chile  :wohoo:

EDIT: It seems we are getting more info  :stare

This is getting weird.

Weird
I spent half an hour there today at that same time and saw NOTHING
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 12, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
Plaza de Armas, Cajon del Maipo and then Estacion Central????  :stare... really weird.... but i'm really interested.  :hearts:


Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 12, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
Looks like they were asking directions and it look like they are doing the book stacking detour from TAR7
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on June 12, 2013, 06:52:48 PM
http://www.greentoadbus.com/en/Chile-bus-passes/Chile-bus-schedule-342

looks like maybe a bus to Valpariso, then ....??
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2013, 08:26:58 PM
http://www.greentoadbus.com/en/Chile-bus-passes/Chile-bus-schedule-342

looks like maybe a bus to Valpariso, then ....??

Where did this come from please? Source?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 12, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
BTW, what an amazing coincidence! I was trying to access the street video system in Santiago but, apparently, the servidors are down. Whoh!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on June 12, 2013, 08:42:33 PM
http://www.greentoadbus.com/en/Chile-bus-passes/Chile-bus-schedule-342

looks like maybe a bus to Valpariso, then ....??

Where did this come from please? Source?


Juan Pablo Montero
‏@__jotaPe
Weooon están grabando The Amazing Race en Estación Central!! xddd
6:23 PM - 12 jun 13

Trans: (........) they're taping TAR at Central Station!!! xddd

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 12, 2013, 08:45:09 PM
Estacion Central is in Santiago.

(http://www.turismoenfotos.com/archivos/temp/1553/400_1223650959_chiledia-112.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 12, 2013, 08:45:17 PM
So does this mean the teams returned to Santiago for the second leg, or that it was actually the first leg?

As to the roadblock possibly being a Switchback to TAR 7 library detour, I believe I suggested that once we knew teams were flying to Chile. I hope that's the case, because that was a good, challenging task.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 12, 2013, 08:54:52 PM

 Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 4m
@doco86 mas normales una pareja conformada por un gringo y una descendiente de latinos pq hablaba español perfecto y la otra una pareja afro
TRANSLATION: more normal, another team of an american man and a latina because she speaks spanish perfectly and the other team was a team afro-look-alike

 Alex Valladares ‏@alexvallaloyola 5m
@doco86 o sea como te digo, vi sólo 5 equipos una pareja que parecian los dos basquet, otra de unos muchachos tipo rafta, otros dos muchacho
TRANSLATION: i mean, i saw onl 5 team, one of them looked like some basquetball dudes, the other team were a two man team who had dreadlocks, another team of two men

- black guys
- guys with long hair
- african american couple
- any of the other 3 m/m
- ???

I wonder who is the latin girl... maybe the girl from team Boston? ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2013, 08:55:27 PM
Did you see Iquique? ??? That was leg 1 and possibly either half or all of 2.

So does this mean the teams returned to Santiago for the second leg, or that it was actually the first leg?


Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 12, 2013, 09:20:36 PM
I'm sorry-i'm a little confused. So leg 2 is in Santiago, right? or was it in Iquique, and Santiago is part of leg 3?

One thing that I am clear on is that leg 2 has in fact started. Are there any teams that we KNOW survived leg 1?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2013, 09:22:07 PM
Read the spoilers. :tup: Photos count!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 12, 2013, 09:29:10 PM
The 5 teams he saw may have been on the DFW flight.
Long-hair aka dredlocks
mm blue bandana basketball?
speaks spanish may be the woman of the middle age two some
or may be the woman of the Boston duo
the tall guy with the blonde/pink
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 12, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
Where do you see anything about the m/f team with the blonde/pink hair girl?  If I had a guess I would think the woman who spoke fluent Spanish was from the middle aged couple. Just a guess though
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 12, 2013, 11:29:20 PM
The latest pic seems to show the afghanimals with the tall guy with the blonde girl in the dark.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 13, 2013, 02:09:39 AM
info removed
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Don Task on June 13, 2013, 03:58:20 AM
info removed
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 13, 2013, 04:35:15 AM
This my time/distance supposition:

Leg1 JUNE 09 LAX >> flight >> DFW/MIA >> flight >> SCL
Leg1 JUNE 10 SCL >> flight >> IQQ 1500km PIT STOP
Leg2 JUNE 11 IQQ >> bus >> Location A 500km >> bus >> SCL 1600km (24hr ride)
Leg2 JUNE 12 >> bus/drive >> Location B 60km PIT STOP
Leg3 JUNE 13 Location B >> bus/drive >> SCL 60km >> flight out of Chile

 
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on June 13, 2013, 09:58:50 AM
Phil Keoghan
@PhilKeoghan
Talk abt a wakeup ... Early morning earthquake overseas couldn't get back to sleep!

8:18am · 13 Jun 13

There was a mild quake this morning in Central Chile. It was felt in Santiago like a 4ish degree quake at 6:41am local time. It was a 5.1 in Valparaiso. For earthquake experts, that means Phil might have been in a high rise building.
wow, so much about TAR Disaster curse and they should get out of Chile immediately and they shouldn't go to Argentina because it is also been struck by earthquakes before.  Be safe Phil and the rest of the remaining TAR 23 contestants. :hello2:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 13, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
Responding to a comment made in the live info thread, an earthquake in the 4.0 to 5.0 range as mentioned by Phil in his tweet is strong enough to be felt, but not strong enough to cause significant damage or injury to people and property.

That being said, I also don't think the earthquake in and of itself, comes within the TAR disaster curse.

But it it nice of Phil to send a tweet that confirms the sleuthing about the current location of Phil and the racers.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on June 13, 2013, 12:13:33 PM
I didn't feel anything  :o but it's difficult for me to wake up with anything.  :res:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 13, 2013, 07:14:40 PM
If filming started on the 9th, how many teams at this point are likely eliminated? 1? 2?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 13, 2013, 07:29:20 PM
The has been 2 legs, so most likely 2 teams. :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 13, 2013, 07:34:53 PM
That would make total filming time around a month then?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 13, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
They're typically around 20 to 25 days. :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on June 13, 2013, 10:10:15 PM
Would it be correct to assume Leg 3 filmed today, June 13? Or should've began filming at least?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 13, 2013, 10:18:25 PM
That sounds about right...

is it me or did we know a lot more about the contestants and their whereabouts (sightings, pictures, tweets, etc.) at this point last season?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 13, 2013, 10:26:31 PM
Would it be correct to assume Leg 3 filmed today, June 13? Or should've began filming at least?


No, you need to think of how Phil can jump ahead and what transport would be needed.

Maybe tomorrow....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: melbtar on June 13, 2013, 10:39:15 PM
Multiple sightings of contestants in Melbourne, Australia.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 13, 2013, 10:41:04 PM
Multiple sightings of contestants in Melbourne, Australia.

That's too far to be true?!   :ascared

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: melbtar on June 13, 2013, 10:50:43 PM
No, they are definitely here. I saw them at Crown Casino, Melbourne.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 13, 2013, 10:53:01 PM
No, they are definitely here. I saw them at Crown Casino, Melbourne.

See my post on LIVE sighting thread, is that them what you saw?

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28799.msg887436.html#msg887436
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 15, 2013, 10:24:45 PM
There was a mention of going to Cordilleraro from Santiago.
There is a Cajon Cordilleraro about 30 mi SE of Santiago and they would most likely have to self-drive.
Vineyards in region along with Zip-line and rafting.
Is close to Argentina border, as is most of Chile.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: WinTar on June 15, 2013, 10:55:23 PM
Lisbon! :hrt:

Looks like the cheerleaders are safe going to Lisbon.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 15, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
They seem to be in Lisboa , does anybody knows how do we see the flights to Lisboa on the last 2 days?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 15, 2013, 11:02:11 PM
From a brief check, flights go through Paris or Madrid, it takes 17 hours or so from Santiago.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 15, 2013, 11:03:36 PM
Glad they have surfaced.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 15, 2013, 11:06:15 PM
I'll check properly later, but I do remember that TAP operates flights to and from Brazil.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on June 15, 2013, 11:10:38 PM
Found this sighting on Instagram search: http://statigr.am/p/479010967019021637_4738032

Mookland 9hrs ago #lisbon #amazingrace

"Guess who I was on the same flight with?!? Amazing Race Season 23 contestants. Had doubts but it's just been validated, Phil walked in the same hotel elevator as me. Haha! He was cranky."

From her caption, she was on the same flight as some teams and looking back at her other pictures taken in the last couple days, she was previously in London. So teams could have been on the second (or third) flight of a sequence from ???->London->Lisbon.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 15, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
Possibly even fourth. If they were in a remote region of Peru or Bolivia it would be (Remote regional airport)-Largest city (Santa Cruz or Lima)-London-Portugal.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 15, 2013, 11:37:12 PM
Is Lisbon the 3rd or 4th leg? They haven't been spotted in a few days so it might be the fourth, but then again flying from Santiago to Lisbon might take a while so it could also be the 3rd.......?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 15, 2013, 11:42:49 PM
Flying from Santiago or other locations to Lisbon shouldn't take that long to get in to. They would need to leave the morning of June 14th to get in June 15th. Assuming the second Chile leg is on June 12th they could possibly sandwich a 3rd leg on June 13th and make it the 4th leg, but it's still also possible that it's only the 3rd leg as well.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 16, 2013, 01:04:26 AM
Flying from Santiago or other locations to Lisbon shouldn't take that long to get in to. They would need to leave the morning of June 14th to get in June 15th. Assuming the second Chile leg is on June 12th they could possibly sandwich a 3rd leg on June 13th and make it the 4th leg, but it's still also possible that it's only the 3rd leg as well.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 16, 2013, 01:06:04 AM
We may have had an extended pit stop to get Phil out of Chile first, whereever the teams went to. The more connecting legs, then more time that will be needed to get from gate to gate in each connecting airport. My guess is that getting from Chile (other than Santiago) to Lisbon would take at least a full day (24 hours disregarding time zones) and possibly more.
They haven't been to Lisbon in a long time. Maybe they'll get to drive diesel again. :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 16, 2013, 01:08:12 AM
Dieselgate the second please <3333333333333
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 16, 2013, 03:19:20 AM
I am not doubting the possibilities of London, Madrid or Paris, but there are multiple connections to Lisbon via Sao Paulo or Rio. Brasil was a colony of Portugal.

The majority of the Brasil to Lisbon flights would be of the overnight, red eye type of flights.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 16, 2013, 03:22:06 AM
And also I think TAP and TAM have various agreements with other South American airlines for codeshares and the like.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 16, 2013, 03:42:53 AM
And also I think TAP and TAM have various agreements with other South American airlines for codeshares and the like.

When I search for possible flight connections, the first thing I do is hit the "Hide Codeshares" button. It really doesn't matter how they are ticketed.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 16, 2013, 03:47:58 AM
What I meant was that TAM and LAN have strategic codeshares, so it would be easier for teams to fly from SCL to LIS via Brazil.

Presuming they're departing from SCL of course.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 16, 2013, 04:07:25 AM
Well it will certainly be interesting to see what they did, as we get more data.

TAR has been to Chile three times to run race legs. TAR 7, 11, and 16. Each time they went to Argentina immediately after. Once by self driving, once by flying, and once by bus.

BsAs has connections to Lisbon also.

A lot depends on just when TPTB wanted teams to fly.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 16, 2013, 09:00:51 AM
What really stumps me is that sole Lisbon poster was in London a few days back and I really don't see any reasonable reasons why teams would have to connect in London and not other better cities.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 16, 2013, 10:46:05 AM
What I meant was that TAM and LAN have strategic codeshares, so it would be easier for teams to fly from SCL to LIS via Brazil.

Presuming they're departing from SCL of course.

TAP and TAM are part of Star Alliance, while LAN Chile is part of One World. Airlines tend to favor alliance partnerships over plain codeshares.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 16, 2013, 10:52:50 AM
What really stumps me is that sole Lisbon poster was in London a few days back and I really don't see any reasonable reasons why teams would have to connect in London and not other better cities.

Well only if production made teams fly that route. Like last race when teams flew Botswana to London to Zurich. Since Phil flew Botswana to Zurich, it gave him a day to film his standups before teams arrived.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 16, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
We may have had an extended pit stop to get Phil out of Chile first, whereever the teams went to. The more connecting legs, then more time that will be needed to get from gate to gate in each connecting airport. My guess is that getting from Chile (other than Santiago) to Lisbon would take at least a full day (24 hours disregarding time zones) and possibly more.
They haven't been to Lisbon in a long time. Maybe they'll get to drive diesel again. :)

Dieselgate!  Ah, that brings back memories!   :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Stylemikro on June 16, 2013, 12:20:54 PM
We may have had an extended pit stop to get Phil out of Chile first, whereever the teams went to. The more connecting legs, then more time that will be needed to get from gate to gate in each connecting airport. My guess is that getting from Chile (other than Santiago) to Lisbon would take at least a full day (24 hours disregarding time zones) and possibly more.
They haven't been to Lisbon in a long time. Maybe they'll get to drive diesel again. :)

Dieselgate!  Ah, that brings back memories!   :lol3:

My country! :D Finally! Tomorrow I will be really near to the airport, don't know if they are already in Portugal or if they are comin atm ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 16, 2013, 12:21:53 PM
They runned a Lisbon leg yesterday , is that right?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2013, 12:49:16 PM
What really stumps me is that sole Lisbon poster was in London a few days back and I really don't see any reasonable reasons why teams would have to connect in London and not other better cities.

And why would where the poster was have ANY bearing on where the racers were? They weren't seen in London, they were seen in Lisbon. So where the psoter was days ago is not relevant unless I missed something....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 16, 2013, 01:08:14 PM
What really stumps me is that sole Lisbon poster was in London a few days back and I really don't see any reasonable reasons why teams would have to connect in London and not other better cities.

And why would where the poster was have ANY bearing on where the racers were? They weren't seen in London, they were seen in Lisbon. So where the psoter was days ago is not relevant unless I missed something....

She posted she was on the flight with the racers. She is believed to be in London last, so London - Lisbon looks like the path she took.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2013, 01:23:51 PM
Okay then, thanks! That would make sense then
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hysha on June 16, 2013, 01:33:03 PM
Wait. There are people who says they are in Australia and later in Lisbon. Is too far away one from the other!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 16, 2013, 01:39:51 PM
Wait. There are people who says they are in Australia and later in Lisbon. Is too far away one from the other!

The Australia sighting is NOT us.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Stylemikro on June 16, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
In TAR's official facebook, a portuguese guy wrote that he saw them on the Lisbon airport like 7-8 hours ago.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 16, 2013, 02:18:11 PM
Let's check the flights from Lisbon 7~8 hours ago.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 16, 2013, 02:27:03 PM
"Cuca Roseta fado singer from Portugal performing now at The Amazing Race!"

This was also on the fbook page.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
Please quote the posts if you can and link them? Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 16, 2013, 06:26:27 PM
Lisbon maybe was a leg and then Norway
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 16, 2013, 06:29:17 PM

Svolvaer is an uniquely destination, majestic touristic arctic...  :hrt:

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Oddarane on June 16, 2013, 06:31:30 PM
Svolvaer is in Northern Norway. Unfortunately I am too far away 😞 And most flights go via Bodoe.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 16, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
:groan: I was in Svolvaer last month too!

It's not easy to get to by public transport (or even by car)! I was doing my pilgrimage in Narvik and had to take multiple buses (the direct bus doesn't run that often, especially not during the weekends) to get to Svolvaer. There's a ferry from Bodo as well, which is what I think teams might have done.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on June 16, 2013, 07:06:54 PM
OMG I actually predicted a country pre-season that appeared in the season correctly!!!  :luvya:
All we need is Mongolia and it will be a perfect route!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 16, 2013, 07:07:53 PM
I'm confused, is Lisbon a leg or just a connection to Norway? I'm lost.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on June 16, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
Are we sure Norway is us? The girl in the lighter blue jacket doesn't look like any of ours(but I can see the blue/green M/F team being there)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 16, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
Lisbon doesn't seem like a logical connection point from anywhere to Norway - it'd be really unlikely!

Let's figure out if Norway is us! My gut feeling is that teams can't get there in time; Svolvaer is not easy to get to! I'll need to check up on when teams were seen in Lisbon though, and I'll only have time when I get home on Wednesday...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 16, 2013, 07:17:35 PM
Could be female from Boston Strong and African American Lime Green team, perhaps? This is speculation based on photo however..
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
I see NO evidence that these are our teams.

Really not thinking this is us...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Oddarane on June 16, 2013, 07:21:11 PM
Are there any other TAR versions filming?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 16, 2013, 07:22:36 PM
Nam 2, but I doubt they would go to Norway.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2013, 07:23:10 PM
TARLA is filming.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 16, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
TARLA is filming.

Not yet.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 16, 2013, 07:24:16 PM
TARLA is filming.

In Norway??

Is there away of knowing when the photo was taken?

Though I remember have an unknown tar filming in Norway during tar21 too....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DavidJunior on June 16, 2013, 07:31:00 PM
Could it be TAR Norway 3?

Didn't season 2 kinda spring up on us last time too?

Maybe they started in a far flung location, and have to figure out the best way to get out of the country and to their first place?

PURE SPECULATION
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 16, 2013, 07:53:28 PM
So June 11 was start of Leg 2 Pitstart.
Teams finished Leg 2 June 12-13 in/around Santiago, Chile
And did not pop back up until yesterday, June 15 in Lisbon, Portugal. This is more likely to be Leg 3 or 4? What do we think?


Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 16, 2013, 08:27:05 PM
Oh my god , i'm tired of saying this but : LEG 3 IS IN SOUTH AMERICA
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 16, 2013, 08:34:16 PM
How do you know Declive?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 16, 2013, 08:38:23 PM
We lost track of them for a FREACKING DAY!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 16, 2013, 08:40:52 PM
It could be an extended pit stop. We don't know 100%.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 16, 2013, 08:43:57 PM
24 hours can easily be used up in the racecourse of The Amazing Race, though Declive. As jimmer25 stated the teams could have had an extended 36-hour-pitstop or more, and also flight connections could have been difficult - from South America to Lisbon, Portugal. Teams may have endured multiple layovers in different airports on their way to Lisbon.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 16, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
To add support for the theory of a possible extended pitstop. If the next country has limited flight opportunities for whatever reason, the producers would hold the teams back in order to send Phil and the lead production team ahead.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 16, 2013, 09:10:01 PM
Declive could be right, I could SPECULATE they might have went to or near Lake Titicaca at the Peruvian-Bolivian border, the question is if there is enough time for the sighting in Lisbon to match up with any other flight except at Comodoro Arturo Benitez Int'l Airport. From my guess/speculation, they probably went this route:

Leg 1 (U.S. --> Chile) / Los Angeles to Santiago and bus to Iquique
Leg 2 (Chile --> Peru --> Bolivia) / bus connecting from Arequipa to Lake Titicaca
Leg 3 (Bolivia --> Portugal) / went across the lake and drove to La Paz Int'l Airport to purchase a flight to Lisbon [via Brazil or Spain].

But the biggest question of all is: Was there a sighting of them at a South American airport after arriving in Chile?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 16, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
Was there a sighting of them at a South American airport after arriving in Chile?

No
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2013, 09:23:29 PM
I am not at all certain there was a leg 3 in SA, could have been but also could have been an extended pitstop. This remains in the UNKNOWN category for now. ANd since we have NO evidence, it is hard to say.

Anyway...

Tried to sharpen this:

Note the shoes, all dark...dont ALL of our racers have pretty bright colorful shoes? ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 16, 2013, 09:36:21 PM

The Svolvaer picture was taken 5 hous ago from this exact minute, I have asked the poster about the details, hopefully he will share a bit of story on what's really happening there..

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2013, 09:58:21 PM
Someone who has seen ALL the racers up close has just messaged me that these do NOT match. And again, with Phil needing to be ahead of racers, teams should be perhaps JUST leaving Lisbon...

I think it is much more likely that Neobie's Sintra, Portugal is correct and then...

wouldn't Gibraltar/Morocco be fun?? (pure spec!)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 16, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
Chateau might get Gibraltar at last :P
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 16, 2013, 10:08:51 PM

Spec on one of the destinations in Sintra, Portugal: Pena Palace or Castelo Dos Mouros?

Might worth a search for keywords.. ;)

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 17, 2013, 12:31:10 AM
Okay, so I just did some math, and it looks like either the guys with the blue bandanas, the brunette girls, the boston couple, or the elder Indian couple will be the first out :/ (although it probably won't be the brunette girls as they were on the first flight)

Sorry this was random- just an update for anyone who wanted it :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 17, 2013, 12:44:39 AM
How do you figure?  Just wondering how you made that assumption. There are a few other teams I don't remember hearing about or seeing lately. To be honest the only two ive heard anything about on here is the cheerleaders and the San Diego state guys. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 17, 2013, 02:05:08 AM
How do you figure?  Just wondering how you made that assumption. There are a few other teams I don't remember hearing about or seeing lately. To be honest the only two ive heard anything about on here is the cheerleaders and the San Diego state guys. Am I missing something?

Oops I forgot to mention the pink haired girl and her boyfriend  :groan: sorry

But anyway, as you mentioned, the LA Kings and San Diego state football players advance past leg 1. The metalheads were also spotted in Santiago. The Afghanimals were seen at the leg 1 pit stop, and were not the last ones there (in the newspaper article). In the very first picture of the Bingo guys, they were chatting with the African american M/F couple, but you could see the pit stop off to the side and the San Diego State guys were being checked in; this is probably because bingo & african american M/F had already checked in. Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 17, 2013, 02:10:46 AM
I'm not sure if this is relevant (because a cap is a silly thing to go by), but I saw a man wearing an Amazing Race cap in Sintra, Portugal on Mon 13 May. Was thinking nothing about it until Portugal came up as a possibility for this season. It seems that the cap is not for sale - suggesting he could be a member of production, but could someone bother to verify?

I've got the same cap. IT IS a CBS official product. It is/was available to the general public as my sister got it for me a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tarflyonthewall on June 17, 2013, 03:10:30 AM
No, Phil was in Lisbon. :)

Are any of those teams really us? ???

Plus if you're going from Santiago to Svolvaer, Lisbon is a downright bizarre connection point. There are no direct flights from Santiago, and the only direct flights to Europe are through Madrid and Paris. There are several daily flights from Paris to Oslo (which presumably is the last connection in any TAR flight route to Svolvaer). From Madrid, there's only seasonal flights to Oslo, but flights to Copenhagen and Stockholm, which would be better than going Santiago-Madrid-Lisbon-Oslo-Svolvaer.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 17, 2013, 10:19:37 AM
Thanks for the clarification!  It's funny how whenever we get a picture it's always the same teams in them. The pink haired girl and guy have rarely been seen the whole time. Even in LAX there was only one picture of them and it was of their backs, compared to multiple pictures of the other teams. Very strange. Same with the brunette girls.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: David on June 17, 2013, 11:04:32 AM
OK. It seems they left Portugal at 7am yesterday? Based on what it was said in LIVE sightings. Departures, according to thattime, is a 7.00 am flight to Madrid.

If only we knew the Terminal, it could el us a lot, since all flights depart from Terminal 1, whereas only a few flights left by Terminal 2: the specified one to Madrid, and a flight to Funchal, Portugal. In case we got to see them fly to Madrid, it could easily be a connecting point to somewhere else, but Funchal could be done too.

If they were in Terminal 1, there is LOTS of different possibilities.



About the Svolvaer thing in Norway, is it possible to have them already there, given the sighting time? Is that our Race, then??
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
Ok, this is the post on FB that Stylemikro found:

XXXXXXXXXX in The Amazing Race
8 hours ago.

Just seen them at Lisbon airport!

There was a follow up on this Facebook post

YYYYYYYYYY I can confirm, yesterday morning at the airport I've been with them while filming in front of the check-in queues with a friend of mine!
5 hours ago


Seeing them in the check-in queues makes it sounds like they were there to catch a flight rather then running to catch a taxi or pick up a car. I've asked him if they were leaving Lisbon or arriving.

Can we have the actual time please?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 11:31:18 AM

The Svolvaer picture was taken 5 hous ago from this exact minute, I have asked the poster about the details, hopefully he will share a bit of story on what's really happening there..



5PM  is very different info from "the teams arrived at midnight"

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=6&day=16&year=2013&p1=25&p2=133&p3=187&iv=0

Was this 5PM Solvaer time or your time or board time? Please clarify, in this case it makes a difference.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 17, 2013, 11:37:34 AM
Please notice that a Santiago to Lisbon connection takes at least 23 hours, runway to runway. Average flight time is 19 hours including layover plus a 4 hour time difference. So, there goes a full day, AT LEAST.

The easiest, fastest and with more options available connecting point between Santiago de Chile and Lisbon is Rio de Janeiro's Galeao airport, GIG.

LAN & TAM (both part of LATAM airlines group, hence the name) serve SCL-GIG and both partner with TAP which extensively joins the two traditional and historical capitals of the lusophone (portuguese-speaking) world: Rio & Lisbon.

Since Phil was still in Santiago the day of the morning earthquake, teams must have been "sequestered" for at least an additional 24 hours at the Cascada de las Animas Resort.

If you take all this in count, the Lisbon sightings' timing makes perfect sense: Leg 3 in Portugal.

I'm very doubtful of the Norway sightings.

For me, the actual route followed so far is:

Starting Line
Los Angeles Airport
Dallas or Miami Airports (connect)
Santiago Airport (connect)
Iquique Airport
Alto Hospicio Town
Iquique City PIT STOP 1
San Pedro de Atacama Town and/or Atacama Desert
Santiago City
Cascada de las Animas Resort PIT STOP 2
Santiago Airport
Rio de Janeiro or Sao Paulo or Four other cities in Brazil or Buenos Aires or Madrid Airports (connect)
Lisbon Airport
Somewhere in Portugal (possibly Sintra or Lisbon) PIT STOP 3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 17, 2013, 12:05:48 PM
Regarding the Lisbon/Norway issue, if Lisbon was no more than a connection, that would allow the teams and production to get through customs and passport control for the EU before heading elsewhere in Europe.
We haven't had to worry too much about this in recent seasons, due to the pacing of the flights into Europe and the tasks and HOO, but reading the live sighting posts this morning suggests this time element may be a factor (if the layover is very limited, or if Lisbon is used for a very short leg (in elapsed time) or a very short pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 17, 2013, 12:07:15 PM
Ok, this is the post on FB that Stylemikro found:

XXXXXXXXXX in The Amazing Race
8 hours ago.

Just seen them at Lisbon airport!

There was a follow up on this Facebook post

YYYYYYYYYY I can confirm, yesterday morning at the airport I've been with them while filming in front of the check-in queues with a friend of mine!
5 hours ago


Seeing them in the check-in queues makes it sounds like they were there to catch a flight rather then running to catch a taxi or pick up a car. I've asked him if they were leaving Lisbon or arriving.

Can we have the actual time please?

9:45am Portugal time :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
WHAT is 945?? grrrr..... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 17, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
WHAT is 945?? grrrr..... :lol:

The time of that Facebook post :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 17, 2013, 01:10:48 PM
Flights from Sao Paulo to Lisbon on Fridays, a 5 pm to 7 am next day, to catch the 8 am to Oslo, which they might have missed if the flight from Brazil was late.
Also from Rio de Janeiro to Lisbon a 5 pm to 7 am, and several others if Lisbon was a destination not a connection.
Most flights to Svolvaer seem to be through Wideroe.
Do not know where TAR went though, only know for sure one team in Lisbon.
Possibly Phil in Lisbon too.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
Regarding the Lisbon/Norway issue, if Lisbon was no more than a connection, that would allow the teams and production to get through customs and passport control for the EU before heading elsewhere in Europe.
We haven't had to worry too much about this in recent seasons, due to the pacing of the flights into Europe and the tasks and HOO, but reading the live sighting posts this morning suggests this time element may be a factor (if the layover is very limited, or if Lisbon is used for a very short leg (in elapsed time) or a very short pit stop.

 PRODUCTION WAS DEFINITELY IN LISBON CITY.. THEY DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL SUN AM. PORTUGAL (Lisbon or Lisbon area) IS HENCE NOT A CONNECTION. IT IS/WAS  A LEG.

The key for us is now to figure out Norway.

Facts: Production dep Lisbon early Sunday.
         Teams apparently seen leaving Lisbon approx 7 AM. (FB post)
         Teams may have been sighted in Svolvaer before MN.
         Flights: Teams COULD be in Svolvaer by 520PM with a VERY tight connection, by 930PM or later without difficulty. Times are a reasonable match to the dep/arr "sightings".

(I'll post flight details in transportation later)
 
Concerns:
The one photo we have may not appear to be a match to our teams. However...what else could be running? And the poster is very specific about "US race".
 
??? ??? ??? ???
 
 

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 01:14:30 PM
WHAT is 945?? grrrr..... :lol:

The time of that Facebook post :lol:

Y'all are still not getting it. FB times appear differently based on where you are and YOUR time. So if that is 845 AM YOUR TIME it is way off MY time. See? All FB times should be reported with a base reference or they are useless.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
Flights from Sao Paulo to Lisbon on Fridays, a 5 pm to 7 am next day, to catch the 8 am to Oslo, which they might have missed if the flight from Brazil was late.
Also from Rio de Janeiro to Lisbon a 5 pm to 7 am, and several others if Lisbon was a destination not a connection.
Most flights to Svolvaer seem to be through Wideroe.
Do not know where TAR went though, only know for sure one team in Lisbon.
Possibly Phil in Lisbon too.

We need to start with Santiago, that is the last KNOWN location, anything else is spec.

Phil WAS in Lisbon.

What one team and can you link to the sighting please? I am still catching up here... If it is the Lisbon airport sighting, that shows TWO teams, correct?  Or 1.5 anyway, :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on June 17, 2013, 01:28:22 PM
 Wideroe is an airline not an airport. Most likely route to Svolvaer, Oslo- Bodø or Stokmarkne- Svolvaer
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 17, 2013, 01:43:26 PM
Thanks I wondered why I could not find Wideroe.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on June 17, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
I had a thought about the Svolvaer sighting. The TAR Ukraine twitter account (actually the 1+1 network account) has been tweeting some pictures lately. One I remember a few days back had something about tired exhausted teams appearing in airports around the world and had a picture of teammates asleep in seats with their heads on each other shoulders. I didn't look too much into it but I'm now thinking that they are gearing up for a second season. While I've heard nothing about them filming, I wouldn't be shocked if the sighting in Svolvaer was TAR Ukraine. I have no proof either way, but it's a possibility.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 17, 2013, 06:35:11 PM
Santiago has evening or morning flights to Lisbon through Sao Paulo and/or Madrid. It still involves 17 or more hours of travel,  arriving in Lisbon the next day around the time you left Santiago. There are also possible connections through Paris and Buenos Aires. These are the ones I could find, I am sure there are more.
leave 11am arrive 11am-2pm or leave 6pm arrive 7pm or later.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 17, 2013, 07:07:55 PM
Hope I'm not adding more confusion :lol:

Christian Atanacio ‏@sonofbiznit 28m
Vacation turned interesting when you see 2 blonde girls kidnapping people holding an amazing race paper. lolz. #spain


Switching back all search terms from Portuguese to Spanish again. I'll be posting under transportation the Santiago-Lisbon flights that match perfectly by giving Phil an advantage on teams and with the 1.5 teams sighting.

Just a feeling but I think Norway is just not us.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 17, 2013, 07:25:12 PM
This my time/distance supposition:

Leg1 JUNE 09 LAX >> flight >> DFW/MIA >> flight >> SCL
Leg1 JUNE 10 SCL >> flight >> IQQ 1500km PIT STOP
Leg2 JUNE 11 IQQ >> bus >> Location A 500km >> bus >> SCL 1600km (24hr ride)
Leg2 JUNE 12 >> bus/drive >> Location B 60km PIT STOP
Leg3 JUNE 13 Location B >> bus/drive >> SCL 60km >> flight out of Chile for Phil
Leg3 JUNE 14 Phil arrives in LIS // Teams depart for LIS
Leg3 JUNE 15 LIS (Spec from this point on) PIT STOP
Leg4 JUNE 16 Portugal>>Spain
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 17, 2013, 07:55:59 PM

The Svolvaer picture was taken 5 hous ago from this exact minute, I have asked the poster about the details, hopefully he will share a bit of story on what's really happening there..



5PM  is very different info from "the teams arrived at midnight"

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=6&day=16&year=2013&p1=25&p2=133&p3=187&iv=0

Was this 5PM Solvaer time or your time or board time? Please clarify, in this case it makes a difference.


My time.. Sorry, GMT +8..
Or otherwise he posted it moments after he saw the actual sighting...

It is difficult to confirm which group they are,..

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 08:09:31 PM
I will never get this, lol.

Let's try this...WHat time did he see teams in Norway?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 17, 2013, 09:15:30 PM
I'm trying to remember if TAR was at that exact plaza on a prior visit, maybe TAR 3?

It sounds familiar.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2013, 09:22:59 PM
I went to wiki to look and see, And WOW! I had totally forgotten that they had done SIntra before, lol!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_3#Leg_4_.28Scotland.2C_UK_.E2.86.92_Portugal.29
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on June 17, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
 
:(  Not really seeing much into this Norway sighting.  Could be The Amazing Race Norge, the locally produced Amazing Race in Norway.  Or maybe not....

Amazing Race Norge info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_Norge) 
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 18, 2013, 12:06:47 AM
If it is plausible (based on the flight schedules and times) for our Race to be in Norway at this time, than I don't see why we should as yet discount it. To me those two teams shown in the Norway picture could very easily be Team Boston (note the color of her backpack and the speck of a possible yellow bandana in the back - their team color) and Team African-American/Interracial Couple (they have darker blue backpacks than Team Boston).

However, if the lady in the front of the picture is not the lady from Team Boston, then I will doubt that this is our race, as we have no other team with that color configuration that has a female member (unless there are 12 teams, which is doubtful).

The picture is so poor quality though that skin tone and other features are really hard to make out. :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 18, 2013, 12:18:24 AM
We could use this right now (just to feel like we know something): :lol3:

Teams who made it to Leg 3:
Team Cheerleaders F/F
Team Afghanimals M/F*

Teams who survived Leg 1:
Team Cheerleaders F/F
Team Bingo M/M
Team Afghanimals M/M
Team Interracial / African-American Couple M/F
Team African-American M/M
Team Red/Pink with black bags F/F

Possibly Eliminated:
Team Pink/Blonde Hair M/F*
Team Older Couple M/F
Team Blue M/M
Team Boston M/F - Don't have a CONFIRMED sighting of them yet.
Team Duck Dynasty M/M

*Note: I'm feeling 99% sure that the lone guy in the photo below is actually from the Afghanimals team, not the pink/blonde hair team. Second photo for comparison.

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 18, 2013, 12:24:13 AM
The team Boston girl has a blue backpack perhaps similar to the Norway sighting. Just saying.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: melbtar on June 18, 2013, 01:28:09 AM
I will never get this, lol.

Let's try this...WHat time did he see teams in Norway?

He said it was midnight when he saw them. If in Svolvaer then it is almost 100% certain they visited 'Magic Ice' - World’s first Ice Gallery and Bar http://www.magicice.no/
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 18, 2013, 02:24:50 AM
Posibility for TAR to go to Hong Kong? first visited in TAR 2 , then tar 11 which is 9 seasons apart then in 17 which is 6 seasons then in 23? which is also 6 seasons apart
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: David on June 18, 2013, 02:54:30 AM
Posibility for TAR to go to Hong Kong? first visited in TAR 2 , then tar 11 which is 9 seasons apart then in 17 which is 6 seasons then in 23? which is also 6 seasons apart

Not a bad fact, but I have never ever thought WRP will count seasons like that to make the route. #justsaying
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: David on June 18, 2013, 03:01:18 AM
Leg4 JUNE 16 Portugal>>Spain

Tought about it, but think it will not happen... Even though next to Portugal there are zones from Spain were few people live, and few people tweet, so it could be still a chance for them to not go spoiled.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 18, 2013, 06:12:04 AM
I went to wiki to look and see, And WOW! I had totally forgotten that they had done SIntra before, lol!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_3#Leg_4_.28Scotland.2C_UK_.E2.86.92_Portugal.29

Not super exactly though! They went to Cabo da Roca (via Cascais by train for some teams) which is in Sintra municipality, but still 45min by bus away from Sintra town itself.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 18, 2013, 06:18:52 AM
Leg4 JUNE 16 Portugal>>Spain

Tought about it, but think it will not happen... Even though next to Portugal there are zones from Spain were few people live, and few people tweet, so it could be still a chance for them to not go spoiled.

Don't say no to Spain just because one person tweeted. They have been to big cities where we haven't gotten any tweets. It's not a matter of population and internet access, it's more a matter of people just not caring to report it or not really knowing what's going on.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 18, 2013, 06:46:05 AM

it's more a matter of people just not caring to report it or not really knowing what's going on.

THIS!

We've got to think outside of the box to figure not just 'The Amazing Race' words that we're looking for out there :js:
#learn #detective #way

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 18, 2013, 07:15:59 AM
search the possible towns/location. Use keywords such as filming/cameras/backpacks/race also.

While Twitter is all powerful (and by extension Instagram)...it is not everywhere. Don't ignore the old standbys of flickr, and picasa!

Facebook is much harder to search than before, "amazing race" is nearly useless, so be creative. And if anyone has a good tool for that, do share!!

Thanks everyone!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 18, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
With teams being spotted in Santiago on June 14th and Lisbon on June 15th, I think it's safe to assume that Portugal would be Leg 3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 18, 2013, 01:07:48 PM
And as popular as both Facebook and Twitter are, don't leave out the live bloggers especially for travelers who aren't as into the new new media.

Meanwhile, there's a new post from a new poster "TAR Chile" with links to his own photos that place Racers at the Santiago airport on Friday morning, and that some of them boarded a flight to Buenos Aires. (A quick glance of the photos posted do show people with backpacks being filmed by a camera crew. And the cover story he was told "travel documentary" and that they didn't know where they were going, are old standby cover stories that we've been hearing for a decade.)

This may help us refine the flights to Lisbon and may help piece together the timeline last week, more and more pointing to an extended pitstop in Santiago after the first two legs.

Apparently Jimmer and I posted at the same time, and I'm pretty sure he's referring to the information TARChile posted.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 18, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
Yep :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 19, 2013, 01:42:47 AM
map
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 19, 2013, 06:36:47 AM
Yep. :faint:

:lol:  ;)  with all due respect, waiting for a new slot 'somewhere there' that would make me happy ;D
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on June 19, 2013, 07:22:54 AM
Oh Location of the picture in Poland is the Neptune Fountain in Gdansk, Poland.

(http://i.imgur.com/82dqvPt.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 19, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
:gaah: Everything is off by two months!!! :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 19, 2013, 07:58:05 AM
:gaah: Everything is off by two months!!! :groan:

:lol:  what an unfortunate events my friend..

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 19, 2013, 07:59:12 AM
:gaah: Everything is off by two months!!! :groan:

:lol:  what an unfortunate events my friend..

At least now I know where they're going to go for the rest of the race.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 19, 2013, 08:02:32 AM

At least now I know where they're going to go for the rest of the race.

:tup:  *fingers-crossed*!

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 19, 2013, 08:11:57 AM

By the way, there's an old shipyard anchored by the side of the river at Gdansk... More pit stops beside the big old ships?! #purespec


(http://i.imgur.com/u4I7UPs.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 19, 2013, 08:39:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/xGiNYGo.jpg)

Looks like a Detour arrow at the back there...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 19, 2013, 08:41:19 AM
"Father/Son" could be Bingo Boys? We havent had a clear look at yellowshirt yet....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 19, 2013, 10:01:39 AM
Spec:

Leg 1: Chile
Leg 2: Chile
Leg 3: Portugal
Leg 4: Norway
Leg 5: Norway
Leg 6: Poland
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 19, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
Another one:

http://web.stagram.com/p/481722192195536024_276263888

    aniaczi #AmazingRace in #Poland #Gdańsk. ! :)   5min

I asked her about it and she said teams had to earn something around 50 zlotys. She said there was a F/F team that was doing it and they were successful and there was also apparently a "father/son" team. (I am not sure who that might be). She also said there were spots for 8 teams and that the "father/son" team were saying something about a "U-Turn".

This is very interesting!  Now we know that at least one F/F team and one M/M team that made it to Poland!  Also, we know that probably 8 teams made it to Poland.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 19, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
Can we please get an update to that timeline so we have a better look at the route so far?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on June 19, 2013, 11:36:24 AM
Based on what the Polish girl told me, I am guessing that the Polish leg is the 5th one because she said there were 8 things for the "statue" task and she mentioned somebody was talking about a U-Turn. I am guessing there is one non-elimination before that, and then 8 teams continue in Poland. That's just my speculation.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Oddarane on June 19, 2013, 11:54:27 AM
Interesting route so far.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on June 19, 2013, 12:54:31 PM
Poland and Portugal have been overdue so maybe a lot of this route will be returning to countries that we haven't seen in a while. Pure spec but I'm looking for Sri Lanka, Malaysia or Philippines later in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 19, 2013, 01:07:07 PM
Poland and Portugal have been overdue so maybe a lot of this route will be returning to countries that we haven't seen in a while. Pure spec but I'm looking for Sri Lanka, Malaysia or Philippines later in the race.

I think Malaysia is the most likely out of the 3, although Sri Lanka has had a lot of Races through it recently and is still a break from India/Bangladesh... :o
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Drake on June 19, 2013, 01:18:19 PM
Based on what the Polish girl told me, I am guessing that the Polish leg is the 5th one because she said there were 8 things for the "statue" task and she mentioned somebody was talking about a U-Turn. I am guessing there is one non-elimination before that, and then 8 teams continue in Poland. That's just my speculation.
I've got information that 6 teams were racing in Poland. And yes, U-turn was on polish leg. 
I'm sure that F/F and Father/Son teams were in Gdańsk. Father/Son team switched Detour.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Drake on June 19, 2013, 02:28:29 PM
oognet.pl/content/details/725 You can watch Fountain of Neptune Live. There is a marked buildind. Do you see? On the right.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 19, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Thank you for the link, I think I saw one team finish the task and run off. 2:48pm central time us.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 20, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28799.0;attach=226265;image)

My shadow skills aren't as good as Chateau's, but it looks like 2.30pm.

Most of the sightings are around the same period then? The first report came up at 2.08pm.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 20, 2013, 02:22:46 AM
Also a quick note (slow day at work today) that the sun has been up in Svolvaer since 24 May. I wonder how that interferes (or not) with our production schedule!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 20, 2013, 05:25:49 AM
Based on what the Polish girl told me, I am guessing that the Polish leg is the 5th one because she said there were 8 things for the "statue" task and she mentioned somebody was talking about a U-Turn. I am guessing there is one non-elimination before that, and then 8 teams continue in Poland. That's just my speculation.
I've got information that 6 teams were racing in Poland. And yes, U-turn was on polish leg. 
I'm sure that F/F and Father/Son teams were in Gdańsk. Father/Son team switched Detour.

Poland's on the 5th leg, so there has to be, unless it's a TBC.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Drake on June 20, 2013, 06:33:07 AM
Based on what the Polish girl told me, I am guessing that the Polish leg is the 5th one because she said there were 8 things for the "statue" task and she mentioned somebody was talking about a U-Turn. I am guessing there is one non-elimination before that, and then 8 teams continue in Poland. That's just my speculation.
I've got information that 6 teams were racing in Poland. And yes, U-turn was on polish leg. 
I'm sure that F/F and Father/Son teams were in Gdańsk. Father/Son team switched Detour.

Poland's on the 5th leg, so there has to be, unless it's a TBC.
Maybe 6 teams performed tasks in the afternoon and 2 in the evening. I don't know.
Someone saw them http://joynjohannes.blogspot.com/2013/06/gdansk-city-trip.html Maybe we should write to him :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 20, 2013, 10:33:54 AM
All the pitstops we have so far have been of plazas/public squares. Possible memory task?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on June 20, 2013, 11:29:46 AM
I won't be surprised if India or China is next (moving on to Asia) and they will most likely be skipping the entire Africa continent? :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on June 20, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
When they get to Asia, I am predicting Kazakhstan and Mongolia will be visited.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on June 20, 2013, 12:16:23 PM
I think places like Croatia, maybe Romania, Serbia, happen before China, etc.  It sees like China gets visited pretty often.
maybe the Maldives.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hysha on June 20, 2013, 01:48:16 PM
Oh no, i want Africa legs... There are a lot of African countries haven't visited yet by TAR.

I like this option for a memory task. The ultimate Roadblock: Put these plazas/squares from the visited countries in order. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 20, 2013, 03:52:20 PM
Ignore this post. It was removed from its context.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 20, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Speculation, but the way the second leg worked this time (or, rather, the way I'm envisioning it to be) reminds me an awful lot about the weird replacement Bangkok leg we had in TAR 19.

A task or two at the beginning of the leg, then a looooong bus ride to the capital, then maybe one or two quick tasks before checking in.

We know the Bangkok leg was the result of a cancelled leg in Laos; could something similar have happened here?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 20, 2013, 04:27:33 PM
The monsoon season has arrived in India a few weeks early, and there's been massive flooding as a result.
That would probably mean that if TPTB were planning India, that might not happen now.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 20, 2013, 04:31:20 PM
I'm wondering if snowfall would restrict access over the Andes to Peru or Bolivia? I was in Bolivia three years back in July and had such a hard time trying to get to Iquique! I had to give up on Uyuni, backtrack to Oruro and then barely get a bus from there into Chile.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if the tasks in Santiago are as lame as the "feed the fish" in Bangkok!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 20, 2013, 04:38:24 PM
Don't forget the earthquake in the north of Chile the morning of the beginning of the second leg.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on June 20, 2013, 05:15:19 PM
I can see teams doing something in Sopot, Poland. Sopot is really close to Gdansk and is most popular for its Pier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pier_in_Sopot
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 20, 2013, 05:34:19 PM
SOpot is spec'd as the PitStop of the last leg...didn't you post it??
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on June 20, 2013, 05:39:20 PM
SOpot is spec'd as the PitStop of the last leg...didn't you post it??

Oh. No! I didn't post it but I did get information from instagram that the Pit Stop was at the Pier. There is a bunch of pictures of filming crews at the Pier but it doesn't look like the race to me. I am not sure.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 20, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
TRANSLATED comments from our first Gdansk sighter at the Neptune task:

aniaczi
 

 #AmazingRace in #Poland #Gdańsk. ! :)

8:43 am 06/19/2013 ✎Rise

http://statigr.am/p/481722192195536024_276263888 (http://statigr.am/p/481722192195536024_276263888)
aniaczi
aniaczigdańsk poland amazingrace
 So cool! And do you know what kind of team? What did they do?
kacper95 - a day ago
 They were set up on a platform like Neptune and collect hajs (probably 50 zł) :) This is the team of two young girls, they succeeded because they run at the road info, but they were still a father and son and they failed
aniaczi - a day ago
 And this father and son said something about u-turn
aniaczi - a day ago
 A and there was room for 8 teams
aniaczi - a day ago
 Oh no thanks: D are you still there?
kacper95 - a day ago
 Not anymore. I'm on the Westerplatte, but certainly there is no pitstop
aniaczi - a day ago
 Cool envy you! : D write and even something interesting will?
kacper95 - a day ago
 Sure ;)
aniaczi - a day ago
 pit stop was yesterday at the pier in Sopot @ aniaczi @ kacper95   
mercibea - about 13 hours ago
 @ Mercibea and I myslalem from the pier to film krecili?
kacper95 - about 6 hours ago
 you mean this article on gazeta.pl? @ kacper95
mercibea - about 6 hours ago
 @ Mercibea no. Plus your photo.
kacper95 - about 4 hours ago
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 20, 2013, 05:41:38 PM
SOpot is spec'd as the PitStop of the last leg...didn't you post it??

Oh. No! I didn't post it but I did get information from instagram that the Pit Stop was at the Pier. There is a bunch of pictures of filming crews at the Pier but it doesn't look like the race to me. I am not sure.

Do WE have any of those pics posted? ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 20, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
Aren't the football players, metalheads, and brunette girls safe past leg 1 as well (both M/M teams spotted in Santiago and brunettes spotted in Santiago airport on the way to Lisbon)?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on June 20, 2013, 05:58:05 PM
nvm
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 20, 2013, 06:38:55 PM
There's certainly nothing else to be done at Sopot other than to have the Pit Stop on a pier!

(Tiny voice: I raced a friend down the pier too back in March...)

And guess what, the Sheraton (there isn't one in Gdansk itself) is right there.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on June 20, 2013, 06:42:35 PM
There's certainly nothing else to be done at Sopot other than to have the Pit Stop on a pier!

And guess what, the Sheraton (there isn't one in Gdansk itself) is right there.

The Pier is right in front of the Grand Hotel (which is right next to the Sheraton). Which from what I've read and heard is popular in Poland also.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 20, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
SOpot is spec'd as the PitStop of the last leg...didn't you post it??

Oh. No! I didn't post it but I did get information from instagram that the Pit Stop was at the Pier. There is a bunch of pictures of filming crews at the Pier but it doesn't look like the race to me. I am not sure.

Do WE have any of those pics posted? ???


No we don't, but I agree with kacper, it was an action movie filming...


(http://i.imgur.com/cSgLXGv.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/fSmCf9U.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARChile on June 20, 2013, 10:25:49 PM
I unfortunately can't reply to Georgia Peach's message since his/her inbox is full, but I just posted two more pictures of my encounter in the Santiago airport here: http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/TARChile/library/

They weren't very good quality and I didn't want to splash their faces across the internet, so I didn't upload them at first though. I think now you guys might be able to use them, though, so I whited out their faces, and added the photos to PB!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 21, 2013, 01:30:57 AM
Theres no chance for the race to come to Hong Kong now... Tropical Storm.. :l
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Parovic on June 21, 2013, 02:34:30 AM
Theres no chance for the race to come to Hong Kong now... Tropical Storm.. :l

The tropical storm does not affect hong kong people much,cuz i am living in hk,and tar 23 is still shooting at leg 6,so there it is a possibility
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 21, 2013, 04:07:25 AM
I unfortunately can't reply to Georgia Peach's message since his/her inbox is full, but I just posted two more pictures of my encounter in the Santiago airport here: http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/TARChile/library/

They weren't very good quality and I didn't want to splash their faces across the internet, so I didn't upload them at first though. I think now you guys might be able to use them, though, so I whited out their faces, and added the photos to PB!

Sorry about the inbox, and Thank you very much!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 21, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Maybe a switchback Detour in Austria? Check the new photo on the live sightings!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 21, 2013, 11:04:03 AM
Maybe a switchback Detour in Austria? Check the new photo on the live sightings!

Huh?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on June 21, 2013, 11:09:50 AM
Pure spec here, but I think we are done with Europe after Austria. The only other thing I could see would be a leg in a city with more connections and flight options to Asia than Vienna. But only one more Europe leg at the most.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 21, 2013, 11:21:00 AM
Maybe a switchback Detour in Austria? Check the new photo on the live sightings!

Huh?
Maybe Declive thought that it's a Switchback from the "Quick and Easy Meal" task back on TAR 18 based on the photo that Alenaveda found. It's just a speculation because I don't know whether the photo was taken in Austria or Poland. :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 21, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
That one that teams ride a segway or smashed pies to each other's face in TAR14
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 21, 2013, 11:34:09 AM
Maybe a switchback Detour in Austria? Check the new photo on the live sightings!

Huh?
Maybe Declive thought that it's a Switchback from the "Quick and Easy Meal" task back on TAR 18 based on the photo that Alenaveda found. It's just a speculation because I don't know whether the photo was taken in Austria or Poland. :)

In Vienna.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 21, 2013, 11:35:26 AM
That one that teams ride a segway or smashed pies to each other's face in TAR14

Phil was riding a segway on the Austria picture...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on June 21, 2013, 12:31:40 PM
I thick that is filming equipment, not a segway. 

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/Aleij1963/CAPSTAR23/BNSVRXVCAAEuapv_zps368fb7d0.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 21, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
Oh , forget about that , than. Sorry guys!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mungobuh on June 21, 2013, 02:04:32 PM
My timing sucks. I was in Vienna last week and visited Schönbrunn Palace & Gardens. I've always wanted to be a Race Spotter...and this is the closest I'll ever get  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tHc on June 21, 2013, 07:50:18 PM
I thick that is filming equipment, not a segway. 

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/Aleij1963/CAPSTAR23/BNSVRXVCAAEuapv_zps368fb7d0.jpg)

Yup, its not a segway, that is just part of the rig, so it can be mobile while doing sweeping shots and not stay static, looks like Phil is on the controls lol
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 21, 2013, 09:39:30 PM
Team Duck Dynasty and the older couple were the only ones not spotted past leg 2, am I right?
And who were spotted on leg 6 (Vienna)?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 21, 2013, 10:52:28 PM
It is hard to identify in the pictures in live sightings, but in Poland we see probably the Afghanimals as statues, we see Tim and Marie (of the pink hair) reading a clue, we are told the father/son are there, at least 1 FF did the statues.
In the next leg in Vienna, we see at a table the MF Afro-American team of the green bandanas, at Schonbrunn Palace the baseball wives and Tim and Marie.
In Sweden we saw MF team Boston.
The tables in Vienna? say there are 4 teams, but I could only identify one. There was a blondish, but I do not know if it was cheerleader or baseball wife.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on June 21, 2013, 10:56:24 PM
Team Duck Dynasty and the older couple were the only ones not spotted past leg 2, am I right?
And who were spotted on leg 6 (Vienna)?

Actually, we haven't spotted Team 11 either. But they are safe on Leg 1 because we have a picture of them at that Pit Stop talking with other teams.

However, I am getting a feeling that Team 11 is the Father/Son team. If it's not Team 11, then I don't know which M/M team it would be!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 22, 2013, 02:32:09 AM
Theres no chance for the race to come to Hong Kong now... Tropical Storm.. :l

The tropical storm does not affect hong kong people much,cuz i am living in hk,and tar 23 is still shooting at leg 6,so there it is a possibility
Hey im living in hong kong too!! .. well the tropical storm is gone so there IS a chance :)

That means no chance for vietnam!!! yay its visited  to much!!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: selfeviction on June 22, 2013, 04:45:34 AM
Theres no chance for the race to come to Hong Kong now... Tropical Storm.. :l

The tropical storm does not affect hong kong people much,cuz i am living in hk,and tar 23 is still shooting at leg 6,so there it is a possibility
Hey im living in hong kong too!! .. well the tropical storm is gone so there IS a chance :)

That means no chance for vietnam!!! yay its visited  to much!!!
Vietnam has only been visited 4 times in 22 seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 22, 2013, 06:04:03 AM
Team Duck Dynasty and the older couple were the only ones not spotted past leg 2, am I right?
And who were spotted on leg 6 (Vienna)?

Actually, we haven't spotted Team 11 either. But they are safe on Leg 1 because we have a picture of them at that Pit Stop talking with other teams.

However, I am getting a feeling that Team 11 is the Father/Son team. If it's not Team 11, then I don't know which M/M team it would be!

Could the Father and Son team be the tall African-Americans?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 22, 2013, 08:40:54 AM
Keep in mid "Father-Son" is in the eye of the beholder. It could also NOT be true.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 22, 2013, 10:18:13 AM
Theres no chance for the race to come to Hong Kong now... Tropical Storm.. :l

The tropical storm does not affect hong kong people much,cuz i am living in hk,and tar 23 is still shooting at leg 6,so there it is a possibility
Hey im living in hong kong too!! .. well the tropical storm is gone so there IS a chance :)

That means no chance for vietnam!!! yay its visited  to much!!!
Vietnam has only been visited 4 times in 22 seasons.
Huh... must be cause ive watched seasons with vietnam in it .. 3 , 10, 22  .... Sorry!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 22, 2013, 10:39:06 AM

Posted approx.2hrs ago

Sighted at VIE aiport in front of QATAR AIRWAYS Counter... Maybe they're looking for flights or even booked one?


@kathlinar
Amazing race at VIE airport

(http://i.imgur.com/EzYv3gg.jpg)

I think that's the brunette girls!  So they survived another leg!   :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: abollo on June 22, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
Why do people suggest Qatar is only a connecting point and won't have a leg itself?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 22, 2013, 11:01:37 AM
Why do people suggest Qatar is only a connecting point and won't have a leg itself?

Qatar is quite a dangerous place, I remember going there myself and never feeling 100% safe, there's a lot of shady business there, particularly in the capital
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 22, 2013, 11:07:21 AM
I didn't feel unsafe in Qatar, but man that place is boring. It'd take some imagination to be able to design a leg there!

Places that look likely to me based on flight patterns:
Seychelles
Colombo
Kathmandu
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 22, 2013, 11:47:14 AM

Some of our friend in the neigbourhood games board have designed a leg in Qatar, could they be inspired? ;)

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 22, 2013, 12:39:47 PM
If they fly from Vienna to Doha, Doha is a great connecting point to many many cities, the big problem is the amount of possible connections if originating in Vienna:

Destination           Flight           Airline             Sched   

SEZ Mahe Island   QR 702      Qatar Airways    12:35 AM Seychelles
CMB Colombo           QR 300           Qatar Airways    12:50 AM Sri Lanka
MEL Melbourne    QR 30           Qatar Airways    12:55 AM Australia
PVG Shanghai           QR 888           Qatar Airways    1:00 AM China
MLE Male                   QR 380      Qatar Airways    1:05 AM Maldives
KTM Kathmandu   QR 352           Qatar Airways    1:10 AM Nepal
BKK Bangkok           QR 614           Qatar Airways    1:10 AM Thailand
KUL Kuala Lumpur   QR 624           Qatar Airways    1:15 AM Malaysia
JNB Johannesburg   QR 584           Qatar Airways    1:20 AM South Africa
SGN Ho Chi Minh   QR 602           Qatar Airways    1:25 AM Vietnam
BAH Bahrain           QR 150           Qatar Airways    1:30 AM Bahrain
HKG Hong Kong   QR 812           Qatar Airways    1:35 AM China
DEL Delhi                   QR 234           Qatar Airways    1:35 AM India
KIX Osaka           QR 802           Qatar Airways    1:40 AM Japan
ICN Seoul                   QR 882           Qatar Airways    1:40 AM South Korea
NRT Tokyo           QR 804        Qatar Airways    1:50 AM Japan
CGK Jakarta           QR 672           Qatar Airways    1:55 AM Indonesia
PER Perth                   QR 900           Qatar Airways    2:00 AM Australia
CCJ Kozhikode           QR 284      Qatar Airways    2:00 AM (Kerala) India
MNL Manila           QR 646           Qatar Airways    2:05 AM Phillipines
KWI Kuwait           QR 138           Qatar Airways    2:15 AM Kuwait
SIN Singapore           QR 642           Qatar Airways    2:15 AM Singapore
NBO Nairobi           QR 534           Qatar Airways    2:20 AM Kenya
DAR Dar Es Salaam   QR 546           Qatar Airways    2:20 AM Tanzania
SIN Singapore           QR 638           Qatar Airways    2:25 AM Singapore
CAN Guangzhou   QR 874           Qatar Airways    2:30 AM China

We need someone in Doha!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 22, 2013, 12:47:23 PM
Is there a live Doha airport webcam ?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on June 22, 2013, 01:04:33 PM
Based on that's list of flights, if Doha is a connection point, I see Male, Kathmandu, Colombo and Kozhikode as most likely.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 22, 2013, 01:09:39 PM
It will be awesome if they're going to Male first, then Kathmandu~! :yess: :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 22, 2013, 01:14:20 PM
Flight is expected to land an hour early from its expected time. The flight itself is scheduled to land in the next hour or so.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 22, 2013, 01:18:10 PM
Based on that's list of flights, if Doha is a connection point, I see Male, Kathmandu, Colombo and Kozhikode as most likely.

I absolutely agree with you. Those are live listings of scheduled flights out of Doha with enough time for a connection from Vienna if they are really flying on QR. If they go to Doha, they should be arriving by 10:05 PM local.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 22, 2013, 01:19:48 PM
955pm is currently the scheduled time of arrival. There is only one flight from Vienna on Qatar Airways, and it goes to Doha. Flight QR96.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 22, 2013, 01:27:40 PM
Here are flight leaving Doha tonight, that teams could probably make.

(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/2quhms4.png)
(http://i41.[banned image hosting site].com/dh7k9i.png)

These are flights from this morning, but they should run tomorrow as well.

(http://i40.[banned image hosting site].com/10xx1mv.png)
(http://i44.[banned image hosting site].com/5o8exg.png)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 22, 2013, 01:33:17 PM
Here are flight leaving Doha tonight, that teams could probably make.

(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/2quhms4.png)
(http://i41.[banned image hosting site].com/dh7k9i.png)

I'll edit in flights for tomorrow morning soon.

They definitely won't be going to London or Budapest as they could have flew straight from Vienna. I think Kuwait and Riyadh can also be discounted as they're quite dangerous so looks like the only possible places as of right now are Bahrain, India or UAE although they could be staying Doha or could be waiting until morning :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 22, 2013, 01:34:26 PM
Also, I think Kathmandu, Colombo, Kochi, and Maldives would be realistic for tomorrow morning flights.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 22, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
More likely
Doha
Bahrain
Mahe, Seychelles
Colombo
Kathmandu
Kozhikode, Kerala

Places that look likely to me based on flight patterns:
Seychelles
Colombo
Kathmandu

Er thanks everyone for repeating me!

I've done some analysis (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28801.msg889591.html#msg889591) over on the Transport thread earlier. Take a look!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 22, 2013, 02:37:53 PM
flight landed
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 22, 2013, 02:50:32 PM
Is there any possibility that the leg is actually in Doha?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 22, 2013, 02:51:17 PM
Why is it that people keep saying Qatar, Kuwait, & Saudi Arabia are unsafe? I thought that they were fairly safe Middle Eastern countries, like Oman or UAE. They have been to Kuwait before, and the world cup will be in Qatar in 2022, so it shouldn't be as unsafe as North Korea or anything.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on June 22, 2013, 02:52:47 PM
I agree that Kuwait is safe. Women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, so that makes it near impossible for the race to visit. And Qatar is definitely safe too.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 22, 2013, 02:53:48 PM
I agree that Kuwait is safe. Women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, so that makes it near impossible for the race to visit. And Qatar is definitely safe too.

Oh okay I didn't know that about Saudi Arabia. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 22, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
"KUWAIT - Exercise a high degree of caution

There is no nationwide advisory in effect for Kuwait. However, you should exercise a high degree of caution due to crime and the general threat of terrorist attacks."

This is why
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 22, 2013, 03:38:11 PM
Well they went to Kuwait about 6-7 years ago. There are American troops stationed there. I just dont think they will go there for the reason there is not much to do there. They covered about all  there was to do in TAR 10.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 22, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
I can't understend why the Kuwait speculations...

Also , they did went to Doha? How do we know that?

Standing on the Qatar Airways doesn't necesseraly means they are going to Doha...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 22, 2013, 06:35:15 PM
I can't understend why the Kuwait speculations...

Also , they did went to Doha? How do we know that?

Standing on the Qatar Airways doesn't necesseraly means they are going to Doha...

I think it was the only flight from Vienna on Qatar Airways that day :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 22, 2013, 06:39:50 PM

Remember that team was only seen at the counter, they're not checking-in, they could though bought a ticket, or looking for a stand-by list,...

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on June 22, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
I can't understend why the Kuwait speculations...

Also , they did went to Doha? How do we know that?

Standing on the Qatar Airways doesn't necesseraly means they are going to Doha...
there are so many connecting flights for that airline company, just take a look at their website: http://www.qatarairways.com/global/en/route-map.page

And I do believe right now they're done on Europe leg and their going to Asia right now, and hopefully that Qatar is just a connecting one and they should go to my country [the Philippines] especially to the exotic province of Palawan just like what it done on season 5 (since they'd been there), TAR Phils. and TAR Ukraine.  Also, no India for this season pls!  :gaah:

P.S.
BTW, hopefully they'd watched the NBA Finals before they'd left from Austria and go for the next leg. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: David on June 23, 2013, 01:30:56 AM

Remember that team was only seen at the counter, they're not checking-in, they could though bought a ticket, or looking for a stand-by list,...



Or searching for another option without buying, or checking in at a flight of another company which may have also been operated by Qatar Airlines...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on June 23, 2013, 03:23:16 AM
This page shows all the code shares of Qatar Airways

http://www.qatarairways.com/tz/en/codeshare-partners.page

They could be flying to Japan, South Korea or Malaysia (three two likely destinations).

Forgot about haze. Malaysia is out.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on June 23, 2013, 09:30:34 AM
I strongly doubt that TAR23 will visit Singapore (Haze just subsided from Singapore, but light haze still persist), Indonesia (Haze still going on), Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur and Muar haze reached over 750 points), and maybe Thailand
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 23, 2013, 09:47:02 AM
I strongly doubt that TAR23 will visit Singapore (Haze just subsided from Singapore, but light haze still persist), Indonesia (Haze still going on), Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur and Muar haze reached over 750 points), and maybe Thailand

Singapore is so much likely destination as the start of Asian race of this season as the City-state visited different versions of The Amazing Race, including its Ukrainian version.

The haze had reached 401 points in Singapore on midday Friday local time (11:00 pm Thursday board time).
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on June 23, 2013, 12:45:11 PM
The haze is down to 73 as of this post. I am pretty sure it's either India/China, considering Korea is out of question due to the recent North Korea threats, Japan for the radioactivity that's still persisting for the remaining 5/6 legs.

Philippines is more likely a location (??), and if they really want to include a new and safe country, Brunei is a country which is safe and yet to be visited by TAR US.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: abollo on June 23, 2013, 12:47:13 PM
I don't think the tweet posted belongs to us as you can see from her tweets that she's from Kentucky and is visiting Mexico and I guess it's Asia's or Africa's turn in the race now. Maybe she is talking about a local race
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 23, 2013, 12:49:25 PM
I don't think the tweet posted belongs to us as you can see from her tweets that she's from Kentucky and is visiting Mexico and I guess it's Asia's or Africa's turn in the race now. Maybe she is talking about a local race

Could be TAR LATIN AMERICA.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 24, 2013, 04:33:19 AM
nvm :iok
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Joeyengen on June 24, 2013, 08:03:26 AM
I thought the Afghanimals were spotted in Poland doing the statue task? so there safe so are they safe through at least leg 5??? :O
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 24, 2013, 08:44:42 AM
I think the race went somewhere remote? no live sightings for long time
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 24, 2013, 08:51:38 AM
I think the race went somewhere remote? no live sightings for long time

Agreed... Fingers-cross they're heading to Kathmandu..

or Remote China land...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Don Task on June 24, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
I think if they were in Kathmandu, someone would already spot them. I have been there last July and Kathmandu is small and packed with tourists. Internet is quite well accessible there.

I hope to see Kathmandu this season, it was one of the best places I have ever been to, however the climate in June/July is quite a problem. Too rainy and foggy. We had to fly to Mt. Everest twice because of fog!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 24, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
I really.hope they're going to Nepal , this week forecast is good. And a little precipitation won't hurt the contestants :P
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 24, 2013, 12:22:32 PM
I really.hope they're going to Nepal , this week forecast is good. And a little precipitation won't hurt the contestants :P
The monsoon floods in Bangkok (TAR14) and Cai Be (TAR15) never hurt either. I'm pretty sure the teams are in Asia for sure or just on an airplane or two making people a little paranoid. For remote locations, I am thinking Tajikistan. I really love Dushanbe, and I'm hoping they could visit Iskanderkul because it's only a 2 or 3 hour drive from the int'l airport.

(Making a free-time season featuring that country in a double-length leg :hearts:)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on June 24, 2013, 02:46:29 PM
This is a long shot, but I think it fits:    :waves:

Back to Songwe Village !

Here is how it would happen:

The flight we have identified:   Flight QR 96 VIE to DOH taking off at 3:42 pm, landing at 10:03 pm
connection with flight QR 584 DOH to JNB taking off at 1:20 am, landing at 8:20 am

It's not the best flight combination to take but it is a close alternative.  The best routing arrives only 55 min sooner by schedule.

Here is what other Teams may have booked:

Flight SA 7543 VIE to FRA taking off at 3:04 pm and landing 4:17 pm
Connection with flight SA 261 FRA to JNB taking off at 8:45 pm and landing at 6:59 am
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on June 24, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
Interesting thought, Chateau. However, there's a lot of interest in TAR in South Africa. It gets shown there and there are lots of local races. I'd have to think that any visit by TAR 23 would have generated numerous Twitter and Facebook messages. Just flying through Johannesburg on the way to Botswana for TAR 22 generated several messages. There were numerous sightings of TAR Ukraine in South Africa at that time as well.  Right now, I haven't seen anything at all from South Africa, so I'm skeptical.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 24, 2013, 04:42:53 PM
Phil tweeted this about 4 mins ago:

In a fog of #Jetlag gave check in the wrong destination city too long without rem sleep ... or a bike ride:)

Jetlag = long trip?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 24, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
nm
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 24, 2013, 05:16:27 PM
If Phil is tweeting he must be in some sort of location with a decent amount of technological advancements where he can access a computer or internet or cell phone towers.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 24, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
Don't we also have proof that the football players, bingo guys, & metalheads survive leg 1? (football players & metalheads were spotted in Santiago, and bingo players were spotted at the leg 1 pit stop chatting with the the african-american M/F couple, with the football guys checking in behind them, so we know they already checked in)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 24, 2013, 05:21:52 PM
Phil tweeted this about 4 mins ago:

In a fog of #Jetlag gave check in the wrong destination city too long without rem sleep ... or a bike ride:)

Jetlag = long trip?

Where ever Phil is.........this was posted to Twitter at 3:56pm Central Daylight Time.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: abollo on June 24, 2013, 05:57:06 PM
I would guess this wasn't from an Asian country. Don't think he will tweet 4-5 am. What do you think?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 24, 2013, 06:25:33 PM
What does Phil mean by wrong destination city? Jet lag could have you tweeting at any time, night or day.
Maybe is a long/ double leg. Who could substitute for Phil at a pit stop or maybe contestants would have to reappear to be checked in by Phil.
I love that he tweets while on the race.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Don Task on June 24, 2013, 07:01:52 PM
It could mean that Phil's flight was diverted to another airport due to weather conditions, medical issues onboard etc. So now he is in a wrong city with a jet leg. What you think about that theory? Do you know where we can check todays diverted flights?


http://gulfbusiness.com/2013/06/oman-air-flight-diverted-due-to-bomb-hoax/#.UcjgfvV-nJE
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 24, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
I interpret "gave check in the wrong destination city" as "I was at the airport checking in and I told the counter staff the wrong destination city." So he's at the airport right now, off to prepare the next leg!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 24, 2013, 07:10:15 PM
I interpret "gave check in the wrong destination city" as "I was at the airport checking in and I told the counter staff the wrong destination city." So he's at the airport right now, off to prepare the next leg!

I absolutely agree.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 24, 2013, 07:10:24 PM
Which could mean no Africa, because of recent trends of having double legs in Africa.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 24, 2013, 07:20:27 PM
Which could mean no Africa, because of recent trends of having double legs in Africa.

Also because Africa wouldn't give him a jet-lag? Africa ranges from +0 (West coast) to +4 (Indian Ocean islands). Poland was at +2. Austria was at +2.

Will put some flight analysis over in the Transport thread, but I'm ruling out Nepal. Sorry guys!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 24, 2013, 07:49:36 PM
Awesome. I love the way RFF's con put information together. I think yall are right.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 25, 2013, 05:14:52 AM
Would be so awesome if TAR is really in Jo'burg!!!  :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leilani on June 25, 2013, 06:49:22 AM
It's also possible that his "jet lag" isn't jet lag from traveling across several time zones as most of us think of it.  He might be using it as a figure of speech or descriptive phrase for how he is feeling.  It could just be that he is really tired from all the travel.  While I'm sure he has a higher tolerance for it than most who don't travel as frequently, I doubt it's easy.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on June 25, 2013, 07:56:40 AM
Phil has always been very precise in his twitter posting, especially when he posts while filming. He takes great pains to not "lie" to his followers. His posts are "obtuse" enough to require careful thought to decipher his meaning. I have no doubt that if Phil says he is "jet lagged," then he has crossed enough time zones to really affect his rest cycle.

If a person flies 8,10, or 12 hours, you will be fatigued when you arrive. If one was flying N/S, then you arrive in the same approximate time in the sun cycle as when you left. If you fly to the east, then you have all those hours PLUS the hours for all the time zones you fly across. So you could arrive at you destination, feeling like you have been flying 12, 14 or 16 hours, with respect to the sun cycle.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 25, 2013, 08:00:54 AM
One of these assumptions must be false:

1. Phil says he's jet-lagged, and hence he can't be in Africa or the Middle East (all less than 2 hours difference).
2. Phil tweeting in the wee hours of South Asia, when there are no good flights except backwards, so he can't be there.
3. No one has sighted them, which means they're not in East or Southeast Asia. (Laos doesn't work flight-wise.)

Can we figure out which one is a bad assumption?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 25, 2013, 08:05:41 AM
I think the jet-lagged one.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 25, 2013, 08:17:36 AM
Between one and two, since there are no live sightings past Vienna.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DavidJunior on June 25, 2013, 11:08:48 AM
Could it just be that he is fatigued from the overall race route?

It has required quite a bit of travelling and flights to get to certain locations (Northern Chile, Northern Norway), and there has been a lot of bouncing North and South.

Add the fact that he was travelling around France a week or two before.

I think that it may just be the overall jetlag and fatigue catching up to him (aka I believe they were in the Middle East these past couple days)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 25, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
Could it just be that he is fatigued from the overall race route?

It has required quite a bit of travelling and flights to get to certain locations (Northern Chile, Northern Norway), and there has been a lot of bouncing North and South.

Add the fact that he was travelling around France a week or two before.

I think that it may just be the overall jetlag and fatigue catching up to him (aka I believe they were in the Middle East these past couple days)
Maybe Phil went to Tajikistan or Kyrgyzstan. ??? It's possible for jet lag when making numerous connecting flights. Thinking Austria - Northern Middle East..,
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 25, 2013, 02:53:18 PM
Eric Lam ‏@EricJVolbalsha 35m Just saw people doing the amazing race loool

Have asked for further info...

Any answer? Just another false lead?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 25, 2013, 03:05:28 PM
No answer but suspect a local race :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 25, 2013, 03:08:07 PM
It probably is. The way it seems to work is Phil arrives at the next destination today and teams tomorrow.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 25, 2013, 03:27:49 PM
Not if he was on the move yesterday, teams should be moving today. I hope!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on June 25, 2013, 11:01:02 PM
I am thinking somewhere where TAR is remotely unpopular or unheard of. Mongolia? Bhutan? Really remotely unheard of countries in Asia which explains the lack of spoilers and sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on June 25, 2013, 11:20:37 PM
I am thinking somewhere where TAR is remotely unpopular or unheard of. Mongolia? Bhutan? Really remotely unheard of countries in Asia which explains the lack of spoilers and sightings.

Mongolia is absolutely not unheard of. Bhutan along Nepal are tops on our wishing list. But true unexpected countries at this time in the far east are the Principality of Mustang and the Kingdom of Sikkim.

If you can't find them there, please let us know, we will move over, then.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 25, 2013, 11:32:45 PM
Frivolous.
Where oh where are the amazing racers?
Oh where oh where can they be?
With their big backpacks and their little fanny packs.
Where oh where can they be?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 12:08:24 AM
UhOh just got a new ear worm!! Cute!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 26, 2013, 12:58:40 AM
This should be a visit to Nepal , Bhutan or Laos , finally!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 26, 2013, 01:00:04 AM
Bhutan probably won't happen because of restrictions but LAOS <3333333 NEPAL <3333333

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on June 26, 2013, 01:38:32 AM
The TAR in Singapore seems to be us...why would the Vietnam version film there now? I think it's us...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 26, 2013, 01:41:38 AM
Ren did say "Chinese or Korean Amazing Race"... I don't see that many (any?) Asians on TAR 23?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on June 26, 2013, 02:50:11 AM
That Bandung tweets seem like false alarm for me. If it's true, it should create more buzz, especially for a major city like Bandung. But, we'll see.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 03:00:01 AM
Got a Response..!! :

Toby B
‏@toby279
2mins ago

"oh, not me! temen, tadi foto di hotel nya, krn mrk 1 hotel.... but ga tau tepatnya, didnt ask jg!"

-->oh, not me! but my friend took a picture with him in his hotel, they were at the same hotel together... but unfortunately I didn't know the exact location, I didn't ask too :(


Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 26, 2013, 03:06:36 AM
^ god .. indonesia again !! :O
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 03:10:17 AM
^ god .. indonesia again !! :O

Complaint number one... okay who's next..?!   :funny:

Try to compile them at Bitch, Moan and Squeal Thread guys, so we can count.. :lol:

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on June 26, 2013, 05:04:43 AM
^ god .. indonesia again !! :O

Complaint number one... okay who's next..?!   :funny:

Try to compile them at Bitch, Moan and Squeal Thread guys, so we can count.. :lol:



ME...!!! LOL...
I'm freaking out right now. i thought they will skip Indonesia for All Stars edition.  Damn... i have plan to go to Bandung next month. it's too late for me  :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on June 26, 2013, 07:05:55 AM
I'm thinking they'll arrive in Jakarta at around 10pm and find all the trains have left, and will be waiting around in Jakarta until tomorrow morning.

Plenty of time to stalk them, then! :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 26, 2013, 07:32:45 AM
I'm thinking they'll arrive in Jakarta at around 10pm and find all the trains have left, and will be waiting around in Jakarta until tomorrow morning.

Plenty of time to stalk them, then! :)
Except if they're taking shuttle bus directly to Bandung, although I don't know is there any midnight schedule. But, is there any possibility that they're going to drive themselves from CGK to Bandung? ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 08:51:43 AM
Just to be clear:

SIngapore was TAR VietNam>>confirmed

Bandung is TAR 23 >>confirmed.

SPEC: Have to wonder if this was a PLANNED leg or a SUBSTITUTE leg since the conditions with the HAZE in Malaysia are so bad....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on June 26, 2013, 09:13:12 AM
I'm thinking they'll arrive in Jakarta at around 10pm and find all the trains have left, and will be waiting around in Jakarta until tomorrow morning.

Plenty of time to stalk them, then! :)
is there any possibility that they're going to drive themselves from CGK to Bandung? ;)

are you kidding me? NO WAY...!!!  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 26, 2013, 09:19:06 AM
I'm thinking they'll arrive in Jakarta at around 10pm and find all the trains have left, and will be waiting around in Jakarta until tomorrow morning.

Plenty of time to stalk them, then! :)
is there any possibility that they're going to drive themselves from CGK to Bandung? ;)

are you kidding me? NO WAY...!!!  :funny:

My home is near the toll road to Bandung from Jakarta, and it's jammed as hell!! :gaah:

It's normally 2 hours of self-driving without stopping to Bandung from Jakarta WITHOUT traffic jam. So, my prediction it'll be more than 4 hours in a traffic jam like this. :lol: I hope they'll feature the traffic jam in Jakarta/Bandung, actually. :P
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 10:01:19 AM
Then if they have not arrived yet Neobie's thought that they may have to wait until AM for the leg may be looking good!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 26, 2013, 10:36:02 AM
Just to be clear:

SIngapore was TAR VietNam>>confirmed

Bandung is TAR 23 >>confirmed.

SPEC: Have to wonder if this was a PLANNED leg or a SUBSTITUTE leg since the conditions with the HAZE in Malaysia are so bad....

Yeah, maybe they intended to go to Malaysia, but with the bad haze they quickly changed plans to Indonesia.  That might explain the fact that the delay was so long.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Daniel on June 26, 2013, 10:46:39 AM
Get ready for a LOT of tweets tomorrow guys. Indonesians are active tweeters, even the locals are already tweeting about tomorrow's filming tonight and how they will track them tomorrow :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Get ready for a LOT of tweets tomorrow guys. Indonesians are active tweeters, even the locals are already tweeting about tomorrow's filming tonight and how they will track them tomorrow :lol:

anything that you think it's not english, spanish or french please do throw it here tomorrow, I'm taking care the control station while my on-the-ground team will do their moves as we told them where to go...

Looking forward for everyone's cooperation tomorrow!!  :conf:

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 26, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
Anything not saying Body Break and TAR Canada will be sincerely welcome.  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
Anything not saying Body Break and TAR Canada will be sincerely welcome.  :funny:

THIS!!  :funny: :funny: :funny:

OMG my eyes just cried right now...

20 tweets in one second and all of them saying BODY BREAK...  :groan: :groan:

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 26, 2013, 11:02:50 AM
After the tweet number 105 in five minutes yesterday night I said "I'm done with it".  :gaah:

And started today and what? More of the same thing.  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 11:37:15 AM
Easy Fix. Use advanced Twitter search for "amazing race" (this eaxct phrase)
Add in ANY of these: Bandung, Jakarta, Airport  whatever seems useful

And put NONE of these: Hal Body Break Canada and ...

PEACE
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: walkingpneumonia on June 26, 2013, 11:45:40 AM
Anything not saying Body Break and TAR Canada will be sincerely welcome.  :funny:
Another Technical Hint:
With twitter its easy to exclude words from your searches by putting a - minus in front of the term. This url excludes the terms: "canada", "bodybreak", "body break", "AmazingRace_New"

https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%22amazing%20race%22%20-canada%20-bodybreak%20-%22body%20break%22%20-AmazingRace_New&src=typd
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 11:55:39 AM
STRONG possibility this could be a double leg.  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 26, 2013, 12:14:18 PM
TAR Vietnam

Just to be clear:

SIngapore was TAR VietNam>>confirmed

Bandung is TAR 23 >>confirmed.

SPEC: Have to wonder if this was a PLANNED leg or a SUBSTITUTE leg since the conditions with the HAZE in Malaysia are so bad....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 12:15:10 PM
Cassie Callahan ‏@cassielynn210 4m Had the participants from The Amazing Race join us on our flight from Thailand to Singapore

4 minutes ago? More info please... This could lead to a big change on our plan...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on June 26, 2013, 12:26:18 PM
asked for more.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 26, 2013, 01:06:35 PM
Is that mean that the missing leg is in Thailand?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 26, 2013, 01:14:01 PM
Now I'm confused as to what's us and what's not. As far as I am aware, the Vietnam version of TAR doesn't have team colors, so the blue team would have to be related to us.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
Now I'm confused as to what's us and what's not. As far as I am aware, the Vietnam version of TAR doesn't have team colors, so the blue team would have to be related to us.

The 'just-landed' and 'just-posted' tweets coming from 2 different persons in Singapore airport is us I think..
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
Y'all Chill. It is being handled but they are enroute again. So wait. And go see the TAR VietNam pics we have, there are clear team colors.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 01:27:06 PM
Is that mean that the missing leg is in Thailand?

NO.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dryedmangoez on June 26, 2013, 07:03:09 PM
Indonesia eh? Hope the Philippines is next hehe.
And you can be sure of plenty of tweets if they do go. lol
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on June 26, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
Indonesia eh? Hope the Philippines is next hehe.
And you can be sure of plenty of tweets if they do go. lol
yes to my home country please!  Just go to Palawan and Cebu or Clark, Pampanga before going back to the US, and that's the best place to race there.  And I do believe that Bandung, Indonesia is a 9th leg for TAR 23.  Just hang on Filipinos, let's pray and we should get ready for our cameras and computers to spread the sightings and spoilers. :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 09:35:14 PM
Indonesia eh? Hope the Philippines is next hehe.
And you can be sure of plenty of tweets if they do go. lol
yes to my home country please!  Just go to Palawan and Cebu or Clark, Pampanga before going back to the US, and that's the best place to race there.  And I do believe that Bandung, Indonesia is a 9th leg for TAR 23.  Just hang on Filipinos, let's pray and we should get ready for our cameras and computers to spread the sightings and spoilers. :hrt:

Love this spirit so much..! :lol:   :hrt:

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on June 26, 2013, 11:08:16 PM
No wonder they do a task related to "Adu Domba". Adu domba is one of the unique cultures from West Java. more details about Adu Domba http://indonesiazoom.blogspot.com/2012/02/adu-domba-wonderful-culture-from-west.html
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 11:10:56 PM
No wonder they do a task related to "Adu Domba". Adu domba is one of the unique cultures in West Java. more detail about Adu Domba http://indonesiazoom.blogspot.com/2012/02/adu-domba-wonderful-culture-from-west.html

This could attract a lot of controversy as they showcased animal harm... I remeber this thread over at TAR Discussion Board..

Goat Fight...

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 26, 2013, 11:16:39 PM
Is he tying the clue onto a rope? ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 26, 2013, 11:30:52 PM
Is he tying the clue onto a rope? ???

Looks like it, yeah, and probably they need to go through goat-fight arena to retrieve it...

Looks like just a normal Route Info...

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cabioTAR on June 27, 2013, 01:00:35 AM
poland & indonesia flag is similar. Speculated final task may related to the flags.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on June 27, 2013, 07:14:33 AM
poland & indonesia flag is similar. Speculated final task may related to the flags.
A Switchback from the final road block on TAR Season 9?  We'll see and we will find out on the final episode of TAR 23 but did you know that the country of Monaco also have similarity to the flags of Poland and Indonesia?  Well, thank god they didn't raced to that country for this season or else the Final 3 teams will get more confusion. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cabioTAR on June 27, 2013, 08:00:27 AM
Austria as well - 2red 1white.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on June 27, 2013, 10:43:13 AM
Is he tying the clue onto a rope? ???

Looks like it, yeah, and probably they need to go through goat-fight arena to retrieve it...

Looks like just a normal Route Info...

He could be taking it down from the rope.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on June 27, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
Just to be clear:

SIngapore was TAR VietNam>>confirmed

Bandung is TAR 23 >>confirmed.

SPEC: Have to wonder if this was a PLANNED leg or a SUBSTITUTE leg since the conditions with the HAZE in Malaysia are so bad....

I lean towards it being a substitute leg. I'm surprised they went back to Indonesia again (happily so, I like the Indonesian legs). One sign for a substitute leg would be somewhere they are familiar and comfortable with and know they can set up a leg on short notice. Obviously they have developed some good working relationships with companies in Indonesia and they are familiar with the need of the TAR production team.

One other thought: In the last few days or so, I saw an interview (probably linked to here but I can't find it), where either BVM or Phil discussed how planning for the last few seasons has changed since CBS cut their filming budget. Now, if they film a couple of legs in an expensive location like Europe, they have to balance it with a couple of legs in relatively inexpensive locations. I'm not sure where the potentially moved leg was originally going to be (Malaysia seems likely), but both Malaysia and Indonesia would appear to be relatively inexpensive locations to my uninformed eyes.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 27, 2013, 11:17:28 AM
That Interview is in the BVM thread I think....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 27, 2013, 11:19:19 AM
TAR can't travel anywhere in the Pacific Rim or Asia, without a swarm of eyewitnesses who can follow and record what is happening.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: SamualDude on June 27, 2013, 06:29:23 PM
I'm thinking that this leg was leg 8 or 9.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 27, 2013, 07:16:47 PM

LIVE REPORT

LEG-???


PLEASE NOTE! That this is only temporary until we collect more data and reports from other team member. Thanks!


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Detour.png/16px-Detour.png)Detour  (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/RBlock.png/16px-RBlock.png)Roadblock (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/TAR-pitstop-icon.png/32px-TAR-pitstop-icon.png)Pit Stop


Leg ?? ( ?? Indonesia)                                             
  • (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/plane.png) ??, ??   ( ?? ) to Bandung, Indonesia (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Flag_of_Indonesia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Indonesia.svg.png) (Hussein Sastranegara Int'l Airport)
  • Villa Bandung Indah, Cileunyi
  • Bandung (City Zoo & Dago Marketplace) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Detour.png/16px-Detour.png)
  • Bandung (Saung Angklung Udjo (http://www.angklung-udjo.co.id/)) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/RBlock.png/16px-RBlock.png)
  • Lembang, Bandung (Bosscha Observatory (http://bosscha.itb.ac.id/)) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/TAR-pitstop-icon.png/32px-TAR-pitstop-icon.png)



Teams that are running this leg are :


(http://i.imgur.com/cFJHXGi.jpg)   (http://i.imgur.com/2Ub16tK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ob0RhGL.jpg)   (http://i.imgur.com/OiIOxNn.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QrNm2ZR.jpg)



As for now, only the Leg's Itinerary and Teams that I can reveal, complete story with pics still on progress waiting for all team member's report...

Stay tune in this post, will give you an alert if I finish updating this post,

Thanks so much, and let's pray for our team healthiness and spirit for tomorrow Leg still in West Java regions, Indonesia... :lol:

Cheers!

Wow!  One of the two all-female teams are still in the running, and only one all-male team is still in the Race!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 27, 2013, 08:38:33 PM
Proving this race isn't designed for all male teams to win like some people think.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cabioTAR on June 27, 2013, 09:09:23 PM
Final 4 race is started/going to start already ... any sight?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 27, 2013, 09:17:38 PM
Nope. We need some CHASERS!!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 27, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
Nope. We need some CHASERS!!!

And we've got none today  :gaah: :gaah:

(But still putting some efforts into it)

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 28, 2013, 05:04:15 AM

Live Report Updated with the Complete Leg Story

Go ahead and Read them here :
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28799.msg891055.html#msg891055

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on June 28, 2013, 06:29:47 AM
GREAT JOB GUYS...!!!
- mellodoo
- aryantsoeseno
- doodledee
- zegha, and
- aivenaamir

So proud of you. Bandung team rocks...!!!  :hoot: :hoot: :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: doodledee on June 28, 2013, 06:39:38 AM
mellodoo's been chasing all over bandung once again..

but no sight

we believe it's a non-city place

so they won't be tweets rite?

and maybe it's quite far from city which is harder to detect coz our communication is like limited inside city...

we believe we'll catch a snapshot if it's around city and helped by some info, but out of it??

well let's see the show then...:)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 28, 2013, 08:18:13 AM
The Timeline & Spoiler Summary has not yet been updated, but from the info provided there and the info provided on the live sightings, here's what I can tell/guess:
Leg 1- either Team Duck Dynasty or Older Couple is eliminated. :(
Leg 7- probably where the brunettes got eliminated :(
NEL/TBC is probably on the 3rd or 4th leg. Other NELs/TBCs are on the F5 & F4. (Leg 8 & 10)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 28, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
Metalheads were seen in Santiago, so it has to be the middle aged couple first.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: angeldanger on June 28, 2013, 10:34:09 AM
Brunette Baseball girls probably in 6th place at best. They could have been 7th...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on June 28, 2013, 10:51:20 AM
Hopefully the cheerleaders managed to survive, either through the leg being an NEL or a superleg, or by the third and fourth teams to arrive making an error which spared them.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 28, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
Okay, "switchback"... we have all the teams secured, and have some of their names (Ashley & Aly, baseball wives whose names I forgot :lol:, and Tim & Marie).

Our route as we know of is:

Los Angeles --> Iquique, Chile --> Atacama Desert (speculated) --> Lisbon, Portugal --> Narvik, Norway --> Poland --> Doha, Qatar (speculated) --> Indonesia
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on June 28, 2013, 05:31:10 PM
We had Santiago and Vienna too
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 28, 2013, 05:41:18 PM
We had Santiago and Vienna too
Thanks. :)

I have a STRONG feeling the race will end on the West Coast and I'll be traveling to Seattle for two or three days after Independence Day, so I'll keep a watchdog in that city since California has been covered in TAR16 poorly and TAR17 greatly. Don't think it will be Oregon again since TAR13 basically covered everything there is to do there except visit Bill & Cathi's farm.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DavidJunior on June 28, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
The route looks like this:

Leg 1: Los Angeles, U.S.A. to Iquique, Chile (Last Middle Aged Hispanic Couple was seen)
Leg 2: Iquique to Santiago, Chile (Last Metalheads, Footballers seen, last photo of Team Bingo)
Leg 3: Santiago, Chile to Sintra, Portugal (Last Blue M/M was seen) (I put my bets on this being the 'Keep Racing Leg' for this season)
Leg 4: Sintra, Portugal to Svolvaer, Norway
Leg 5: Svolvaer, Norway to Gdansk, Poland (*Possible* last mention of Team Bingo- are they the 'Father/Son' team?) (W-turn mentioned)
Leg 6: Gdansk, Poland to Vienna, Austria (this leg or the following is another NEL)
Leg 7: Vienna, Austria to ? ? ? (Doha, Qatar a strong possibility) (last sighting of Brunette girls)
Leg ??: ? ? ? to Bandung, Indonesia (F5 confirmed, possible NEL)

That is generally what I have speculated and inferred from the general spoilers that we've had
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DavidJunior on June 28, 2013, 05:45:44 PM
We had Santiago and Vienna too
Thanks. :)

I have a STRONG feeling the race will end on the West Coast and I'll be traveling to Seattle for two or three days after Independence Day, so I'll keep a watchdog in that city since California has been covered in TAR16 poorly and TAR17 greatly. Don't think it will be Oregon again since TAR13 basically covered everything there is to do there except visit Bill & Cathi's farm.

I'm pretty sure S16 was covered pretty well... the one's doing the covering decided to withhold some of the information until a later time for safety purposes

Also, the Bay can be covered this time too, if they choose to come back here, and if my fellow RFFers so wish ;) #fingerscrossed
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 28, 2013, 06:02:01 PM
We had Santiago and Vienna too
Thanks. :)

I have a STRONG feeling the race will end on the West Coast and I'll be traveling to Seattle for two or three days after Independence Day, so I'll keep a watchdog in that city since California has been covered in TAR16 poorly and TAR17 greatly. Don't think it will be Oregon again since TAR13 basically covered everything there is to do there except visit Bill & Cathi's farm.

I'm pretty sure S16 was covered pretty well... the one's doing the covering decided to withhold some of the information until a later time for safety purposes

Also, the Bay can be covered this time too, if they choose to come back here, and if my fellow RFFers so wish ;) #fingerscrossed
I think the Bay Area is a possibility; maybe this time the Oakland/Berkeley region will be visited. I do think 88%, the final leg will be locked on West Coast. :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 28, 2013, 08:05:24 PM
<Please delete this post>
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 28, 2013, 08:05:36 PM
Atacama Desert? ???

Not.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: EagleSpirit0 on June 28, 2013, 08:15:45 PM
Just to chime in and verify Peach; if teams flew from Bandung to Denpasar, they are almost virtually guaranteed to go to Australia.  If they were going anywhere in Asia, it would make infinitely more sense to take buses from Bandung to Jakarta (it's less than 2 hours) and/or take the direct flight from Bandung to Singapore, where, well ... it's easy to gets places.

I hated Bandung as a traveler and am curious to why they traveled there (it's a great city to live in, but to travel to?  I don't know how compelling it will appear on TV.  It's more of a Surabaya than a Jogja/Bali), but as a historian/anthropologist, Bandung probably is one of the most interesting cities in its role in Third World globalism politics, Indonesian history, and the global non-aligned movement.  Sorry, dork. 
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 28, 2013, 08:22:02 PM
Just to put it out there I AM AVAILABLE FOR MELBOURNE SIGHTINGS <3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 28, 2013, 08:23:43 PM
My gut says Perth, based on my post in transport thread.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Daniel on June 28, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
It's more of a Surabaya than a Jogja/Bali)

Bandung and Surabaya aren't similar at all in my opinion..
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 28, 2013, 09:13:52 PM
Given that last season teams got routed through Perth to get to Bali from Christchurch, going to Singapore to get to anywhere in Australia makes sense, even if it's not the fastest or most direct route, if that creates a time bubble to get Phil and production to where they're headed first. (Don't forget production will send teams on a more indirect or slower paced route for that reason, and it becomes more apparent as we have fewer teams and we're getting to the end of the Race.

It's looking to me more and more as if WRP is aiming for a Fourth of July finish, especially if a trans-Pacific flight from Asia to the west coast or inland U.S. is coming up.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 28, 2013, 09:17:48 PM
Besides Joab, what RFFers are in SIN?? QUICK PLEASE!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: kathleenykl on June 28, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
 :hoot:
I'm at work in central SG & unable to go to Changi Airport today though, so I don't think I'd be of much help in finding their final destination.
I'd totally faint if they raced in Singapore. I'll be watching the LIVE Sightings thread very closely today...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: angeldanger on June 28, 2013, 09:56:33 PM
I live in Singapore and am free today till about 5:30pm when I need to meet a work mate in the Bukit Timah area till 7pm  to collect teaching materials. Where I'm at is pretty centralized.

contacted, thanks!--peach
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RealityFan37 on June 28, 2013, 10:09:09 PM
Also available for Melbourne sightings. We are long overdue for the race to visit Melbourne!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: angeldanger on June 28, 2013, 10:20:56 PM
If they are headed to Bali, (doubtful), my friend just arrived there last night will be there till tomorrow at noon- just sent him an email and message on phone messenger.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 28, 2013, 10:56:57 PM
If they are headed to Bali, (doubtful), my friend just arrived there last night will be there till tomorrow at noon- just sent him an email and message on phone messenger.

PLEASE...PLEASE..DO THAT...

There's also possiblity of splitting teams up... or the stand-by tickets run out of sales...so they need to look for alternative flights (DPS could be one of them)

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: angeldanger on June 28, 2013, 11:04:32 PM
If they are headed to Bali, (doubtful), my friend just arrived there last night will be there till tomorrow at noon- just sent him an email and message on phone messenger.

PLEASE...PLEASE..DO THAT...

There's also possiblity of splitting teams up... or the stand-by tickets run out of sales...so they need to look for alternative flights (DPS could be one of them)

Spammed his email, viber, we chat messenger and direct messaged him on twitter already. Last I heard from him was "I'm in Ubud cycling this afternoon with my family." an hour ago...

If teams need to connect to Singapore... and they flew via Bali,

They could possibly be on QZ8494 to SGP (arriving at 3:30pm), or
S Q 943 arriving at 3.35pm, or

VF 242  Valu Air arriving at 4.45pm,

or JQ 116 Jet Star arriving at 4.55pm (via Perth)

that's what I'm guessing.

Unless something went horribly wrong and a team got delayed, the next flight arriving in Singapore from Bali would be at 6:25pm

*all timings are local Singapore time*


My voice is running dry and calling a ton of major tourist attractions here to ask if anyone is filming later today. Came up empty, with most staff not knowing what I'm talking about... RE: Zoo, Bird Park, Marina Bay Sands, Flyer, Universal Studios, Resorts World Sentosa, Raffles Hotel, National Library

*just incase they might have a leg here*
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 28, 2013, 11:13:51 PM
New info, watch for tweets after 0800 please!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: angeldanger on June 28, 2013, 11:31:59 PM
MI 191 is delayed!

 Silkair Flight 191

    Scheduled - arrives in 31 mins
    BDO    
       SIN
    Departed Bandung, today
    Times    Terminal    Gate
    10:10 am    -    -
          
    Arrives Singapore, today
    Scheduled 12:55 pm    Terminal    Gate
    1:02 pm    2    -
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: abollo on June 28, 2013, 11:44:38 PM
This is old and I don't know if it has been discovered yet so I'll post it here. Maybe it helps.
On the austria leg teams 7 & 9 from here http://i.imgur.com/Q2tEpgy.jpg were still racing
I contacted someone who said they spotted the race and just got the reply. This is the only info I got so far, but I'll ask for more maybe it helps
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ICONBLEED on June 29, 2013, 12:14:02 AM
Philippines is experiecing an El Nino of TAR visit.  :gaah:
plus a tropical storm out here.. most probably we have to wait another season to speculate.. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on June 29, 2013, 12:37:21 AM
MI 191 has landed.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do;jsessionid=A647F229609041951F4C9307BD6290DE.web2:8009?airline=%28MI%29+Silkair&flightNumber=191&departureDate=2013-06-29&x=19&y=4
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on June 29, 2013, 12:38:26 AM
Guys, since I'd put this a speculation thing for TAR 23 but I'd found a twitter message from this Filipina girl just today:

Quote
Because I'm a fan! 😁👊 #TheAmazingRace #AmazingRace #ElephantCave #puertoprincesa #Palawan #Philippines… http://instagram.com/p/bDmUapiRbc/

‏@peehbeeh
1:48 AM - 27 Hun 13
But on the picture link on her instagram account you could see the board sign that said KARST MOUNTAIN ELEPHANT CAVE TARP Leg 11.  It could be a year old pic for the Philippine version of TAR but if she's telling the truth or if she's giving us a clue that TAR 23 will finally go to my country [the Philippines] and go to that place and it was previously raced for the TARP season 1, then that's great imho.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 29, 2013, 12:44:51 AM
edreifigure,  :bigwelcome to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 29, 2013, 12:49:49 AM
There are a lot of tropical storms in the Philippines at this time of the year. :(
They should come to the Philippines on November or December. The traffic during the Christmas season should make things more dramatic. :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 29, 2013, 06:09:27 AM
Poor Philippines won't get a leg... Typhoon directly hitting Philippines north but I think south it okay?
It means no hong Kong too... Its gonna get hit
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on June 29, 2013, 11:12:43 AM
Poor Philippines won't get a leg... Typhoon directly hitting Philippines north but I think south it okay?
It means no hong Kong too... Its gonna get hit

Right. :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 29, 2013, 11:24:36 AM
I see a problem with Singapore being the next destination. That would be backtracking. It's possible that it's a connection point, but thats about it.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: angeldanger on June 29, 2013, 12:07:20 PM
If teams flew out of Abu Dhabi direct to Singapore, there is only one flight daily that arrives at 22:20h local Singapore time. How many teams did teams see on the BKK-Singapore flight that is the question cause this would be the earlier one arriving direct.

ETIHAD AIRWAYSEY470

234
  ALITALIAAZ5740   
  ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS (NH)NH6370   
  NZNZ4270   
  CZECH AIRLINESOK3222   
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 29, 2013, 02:38:04 PM
Sorry haven't had a chance to check on the sight as often as I've wanted to lately... So I may be a little behind but I have just a couple questions.

Does anyone know for sure how many teams are remaining?
Was the Bandung leg that zouly gave the report on a NEL or were the pink girls eliminated?

Just wondering if we were able to come to a final verdict or if those answers are still unknown.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 29, 2013, 03:11:33 PM
Also we are getting pretty close to the finale. Just wondering where everyone thinks the final leg will take place and where everyone would like the final leg to be. Personally I was a fan of the Hawaii finale in tar 20 but since that was so recent I doubt they will go back.

What about another finish in anchorage or a similar Alaskan city like Juno or Fairbanks. It's beautiful in Alaska this time of year
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2013, 03:24:45 PM
Sorry haven't had a chance to check on the sight as often as I've wanted to lately... So I may be a little behind but I have just a couple questions.

Does anyone know for sure how many teams are remaining?
Was the Bandung leg that zouly gave the report on a NEL or were the pink girls eliminated?

Just wondering if we were able to come to a final verdict or if those answers are still unknown.


The spoilers from Bandung are very clear. 5 teams remaining, one eliminated.

Also we are getting pretty close to the finale. Just wondering where everyone thinks the final leg will take place and where everyone would like the final leg to be.....What about another finish I'm anchorage or a similar Alaskan city like Juno or Fairbanks. It's beautiful in Alaska this time of year

Works for me!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 29, 2013, 03:28:15 PM
Yes that's what I thought, but then people started saying they thought it was a NEL so I wasn't sure
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 29, 2013, 03:32:40 PM
I don't believe we ever get confirmation if that was an elimination leg or not. If that was Leg 9 like I thought it was, it would actually have to of been a NEL.

What we need is an update to that timeline to reflect the current information.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 29, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
(I accidentally posted this on the timeline thread, but I meant to put it here):

I think I speak for more than just myself when I say that this season in general has very confusing spoilers- there going back & forth, backtracking, no one can quite confirm some locations, we don't know who made it to where. 


I have a few questions that I can't seem to find the answers to anywhere on this site:

1.) Was there a leg in Doha, Qatar?
2.) I heard mention of a leg in Abu Dhabi, UAE- are we sure about this? I didn't see any sightings or tweets. Also, if there was a leg here, are we sure they went to Bandung, Indonesia straight from here? Isn't that kind of a stretch going from the Middle East straight to Southeast Asia?
3.) Are there 1 or 2 legs in Banding, Indonesia?
4.) Is the Bandung, Indonesia leg a NEL or an EL leg? I've heard both coming from numerous sources.
5.) What's the whole deal about Singapore? Was there a leg there, was it just a connection, etc. I couldn't tell.
6.) I heard that they were in Bali. Is this another leg, or a connection?
7.) I've also heard that they were going to Australia. Is this just pure spec or are there sightings?
8.) So far, we are 100% sure they've been to Chile, Portugal, Norway, Poland, Austria, and Indonesia. So far there are no new countries. Are we sure that somewhere between Austria and Indonesia they didn't visit a new country, even for just 1 leg?

I'm so sorry I have so many questions  . It would would be great if any of you guys could answer even one of these. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
(I accidentally posted this on the timeline thread, but I meant to put it here):

I think I speak for more than just myself when I say that this season in general has very confusing spoilers- there going back & forth, backtracking, no one can quite confirm some locations, we don't know who made it to where. 


I have a few questions that I can't seem to find the answers to anywhere on this site:

1.) Was there a leg in Doha, Qatar? No
2.) I heard mention of a leg in Abu Dhabi, UAE- are we sure about this? Yes.I didn't see any sightings or tweets. Also, if there was a leg here, are we sure they went to Bandung, Indonesia straight from here? Unknown
Isn't that kind of a stretch going from the Middle East straight to Southeast Asia?
3.) Are there 1 or 2 legs in Banding, Indonesia? Two
4.) Is the Bandung, Indonesia leg a NEL or an EL leg? There are two legs, probably one of each.I've heard both coming from numerous sources.
5.) What's the whole deal about Singapore? Was there a leg there, was it just a connection, etc. I couldn't tell. Connection
6.) I heard that they were in Bali. Is this another leg, or a connection? Only a POSSIBLE connection>pretty much did not happen.
7.) I've also heard that they were going to Australia. Is this just pure spec or are there sightings? Possible routing, spec only.
8.) So far, we are 100% sure they've been to Chile, Portugal, Norway, Poland, Austria, and Indonesia. So far there are no new countries. Are we sure that somewhere between Austria and Indonesia they didn't visit a new country, even for just 1 leg? :duno:

I'm so sorry I have so many questions  . It would would be great if any of you guys could answer even one of these. Thanks!

Sigh....
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on June 29, 2013, 04:15:19 PM
Quote
So far, we are 100% sure they've been to Chile, Portugal, Norway, Poland, Austria, and Indonesia. So far there are no new countries. Are we sure that somewhere between Austria and Indonesia they didn't visit a new country, even for just 1 leg?

We did lose them some days. You really never know. For all you know they may be on a flight to North Korea now.
Show content
just kidding.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 29, 2013, 04:40:03 PM
Thanks Peach! You're a life saver!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
And sorry...yesterday was insane. We were arranging coverage pretty much worldwide so it is completely possible that some info did not make it from tweets to the boards. :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: loseaguy on June 29, 2013, 04:44:55 PM
I'm sorry, does anyone know where teams are right now?? Still in Singapore?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 29, 2013, 04:59:39 PM
Nope. Singapore was only a connection point. Wherever they are, it's probably leg 11. So we might find out if they fly home from there and we figure out where the final destination city is.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2013, 05:12:31 PM
Actually, wherever in the world they are, the leg will be probably be starting in a a few short hours.

So please everyone be alert, watch tweets and blog like crazy, and help here as much as you can! Especially IF you are in Manila, Taipei, HK, or AUS!!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on June 29, 2013, 07:23:17 PM
It is interesting to note the Boston Strong girl didn't start the race with a white wrap around her ankle like she has in the most recent photo. It's likely she does injure herself at some point during this race.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on June 29, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
If MEL is a possibility, teams could be on these flights:

Thai Airways 465 BKK-MEL Departed at 12:09 AM and scheduled to arrive at 11:45AM
China Southern Airlines 321 CAN-MEL Departed at 9:00PM and scheduled to arrive at 10:53AM (Highly unlikely due to visas)
Jetstar 66 DRW-MEL Departed at 7:28 AM and scheduled to arrive at 11:35 AM

The last flight has possible connections with:

Jetstar Flight 64 SIN-DRW Departed at 10:20PM and arrived at 4:20AM
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
They could have come directly fm SIN 6-29 yesterday though, arriv last night around 730...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on June 29, 2013, 09:50:16 PM
Guys, since I'd put this a speculation thing for TAR 23 but I'd found a twitter message from this Filipina girl just today:

Quote
Because I'm a fan! 😁👊 #TheAmazingRace #AmazingRace #ElephantCave #puertoprincesa #Palawan #Philippines… http://instagram.com/p/bDmUapiRbc/

‏@peehbeeh
1:48 AM - 27 Hun 13
But on the picture link on her instagram account you could see the board sign that said KARST MOUNTAIN ELEPHANT CAVE TARP Leg 11.  It could be a year old pic for the Philippine version of TAR but if she's telling the truth or if she's giving us a clue that TAR 23 will finally go to my country [the Philippines] and go to that place and it was previously raced for the TARP season 1, then that's great imho.
I'd already asked this lady and she said that it's NOT really related to the upcoming TAR 23, she'd just posted it for TARP season 1.  So that's sad one.  And we really don't know if my country would really visit here for TAR 23 since as we know that there's a tropical storm by he name of Gorio that is now crossed to my country, today but I do believe that one is not as strong as TS Ondoy which it was really a devastated one that happened 4 years ago, and surely by tomorrow TS Gorio will be cross to Southern China and that will be a problem if they're going to that place right now.

But I'll be saddened if they gonna snubbed the producers of TAR US for not visiting to my country for season 23 for nine straight years and that'll pissed and dismayed my Filipino people in spite that we already have a Pinoy version of TAR. :( :'( :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cabioTAR on June 29, 2013, 10:06:55 PM
Tweeted 1hr ago

@ExampleButter: So the amazing race is being filmed in Curaçao and the participants are staying at my hotel #Cool

So it Quensland, Aus
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on June 29, 2013, 10:13:49 PM
isn't Curaçao in the southern caribean??
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: WinTar on June 29, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
^This.. and I think it was TAR Latin being mentioned.

Alen asked if it was TAR Latin and she said yes, so not us.

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: saskvagabond on June 29, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
Hey it's spec, so why not? As far as I'm aware, and others may have better intel than me, we lost them after the initial flight from Bandung, Indonesia to Singapore. I see that the general consensus from the most knowledgable peeps (Peach) is that Singapore was only a connection airport and that most likely [some] teams were on the 10:10am flight to Singapore with SilkAir.

Could they finally be going to Laos? Fastest flights there route through Singapore. And Laos could be a pretty "Twitter Dark" country.

*shrugs*  I could also be just spouting wishful word vomit too. But something to consider.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 29, 2013, 11:11:45 PM
Hey it's spec, so why not? As far as I'm aware, and others may have better intel than me, we lost them after the initial flight from Bandung, Indonesia to Singapore. I see that the general consensus from the most knowledgable peeps (Peach) is that Singapore was only a connection airport and that most likely [some] teams were on the 10:10am flight to Singapore with SilkAir.

Could they finally be going to Laos? Fastest flights there route through Singapore. And Laos could be a pretty "Twitter Dark" country.

*shrugs*  I could also be just spouting wishful word vomit too. But something to consider.

Makes sense... Might try to stump the detectives and quiet social media before they head back to the US
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 29, 2013, 11:29:11 PM
We have that unused leg in Laos.... ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 30, 2013, 12:48:37 AM
We have that unused leg in Laos.... ???
And President Obama and family might be doing the unused leg in Tanzania any day now. :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mellodoo on June 30, 2013, 01:17:14 AM
So they really went to Lembang  :ascared
I was like  :tantrum

When I was in Bosscha I have a feeling that they will go to Tangkuban Parahu.
 I can't follow the team on friday  :'(

But anyway here is the map of Lembang

http://ndahsaja.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/peta-wisata-lembang.jpg (http://ndahsaja.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/peta-wisata-lembang.jpg)

So if they started from Bosscha, I think lembang is quite close. It's a cool place. That's why on the weekend usually the traffic is really really bad.
When Phil tweeted that he was in traffic jams on friday I think that is in the border of Bandung-Lembang. :))

I think the teams will go to the Tea Plantation at Lembang/Subang to do challenge that related to Tea
or maybe "Sisingaan" a cultural ceremony that held in Subang. Or maybe both is the choice of the detour :))

if they really go to subang, It's really possible Bosscha -> Tangkuban Parahu Mount [detour] -> Subang

Let's see it later  :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on June 30, 2013, 11:27:24 AM
dosent indonesia > curacao seem ridiculos??
well maybe australia > curacao makes sense but really? oceania again?
oh well i bet its australia as we had indonesia again!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 30, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
So they really went to Lembang  :ascared
I was like  :tantrum

When I was in Bosscha I have a feeling that they will go to Tangkuban Parahu.
 I can't follow the team on friday  :'(

But anyway here is the map of Lembang

http://ndahsaja.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/peta-wisata-lembang.jpg (http://ndahsaja.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/peta-wisata-lembang.jpg)

So if they started from Bosscha, I think lembang is quite close. It's a cool place. That's why on the weekend usually the traffic is really really bad.
When Phil tweeted that he was in traffic jams on friday I think that is in the border of Bandung-Lembang. :))

I think the teams will go to the Tea Plantation at Lembang/Subang to do challenge that related to Tea
or maybe "Sisingaan" a cultural ceremony that held in Subang. Or maybe both is the choice of the detour :))

if they really go to subang, It's really possible Bosscha -> Tangkuban Parahu Mount [detour] -> Subang

Let's see it later  :conf:
Thanks mellodoo! :waves: Second Indonesia leg is confirmed then.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2013, 11:59:09 AM
It was confirmed by the onsite team days ago, lol.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 30, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
So the final leg should be taking place during the next day or two then?  Which means that we should be getting tons of sightings soon when they get back to the US. Hope it's somewhere different than San fransisco!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 30, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
So the final leg should be taking place during the next day or two then?  Which means that we should be getting tons of sightings soon when they get back to the US. Hope it's somewhere different than San fransisco!

I think Seattle is probably due for a finish line soon, considering LA and SanFran have both been visited post-All-Stars
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 30, 2013, 12:53:21 PM
So the final leg should be taking place during the next day or two then?  Which means that we should be getting tons of sightings soon when they get back to the US. Hope it's somewhere different than San fransisco!

I think Seattle is probably due for a finish line soon, considering LA and SanFran have both been visited post-All-Stars

What about Salt Lake City? I really wish they're going there.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 30, 2013, 12:59:48 PM
I think it would be cool to do a Grand Canyon type leg with the finish line being at the 4 corners (Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 30, 2013, 01:07:40 PM
So the final leg should be taking place during the next day or two then?  Which means that we should be getting tons of sightings soon when they get back to the US. Hope it's somewhere different than San fransisco!

I think Seattle is probably due for a finish line soon, considering LA and SanFran have both been visited post-All-Stars
L.A. has been TAR infestation the past eleven seasons. :lol: Wouldn't be sorry for San Francisco if they visited Alcatraz and Chinatown. I am certain Seattle will be landmarked for the finale, even Phoenix, Arizona would have a slight chance of being visited.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on June 30, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
I would really love a visit to the Colorado area and have like a Rocky Mountain/Snow Task for the final leg. I think it could be a great opportunity to showcase the Rockies in HD!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on June 30, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
I think Houston is due for a finish(or start). It is one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country. It is also very hot
traffic can be a nightmare. There are plenty of areas nearby for tasks and pit stops or finish lines.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on June 30, 2013, 03:11:23 PM
I think Portland is due for a finale again.  TAR13 was okay but I wished they did more.  The weather here for this week is sunny with temps in the upper 80s/90s.  The Portland area has a lot of things to do if the race came back here like Mt Hood/Ski Bowl, Washington Park Zoo/Rose Test Garden, Willamette River waterfront (perfect for a Dragonboat task), and much more.  I would be free to poke around on this Tuesday/Wednesday.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on June 30, 2013, 03:16:29 PM
well wherever they end up going for the final leg it should be done by the beginning of this week...tuesday or wednesday the latest
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 30, 2013, 04:58:03 PM
OMG I had a feeling Myanmar / Burma would be visited! How exciting, what an amazing place it is! And so glad they can finally go there - unless Peach is wrong (which is not often) So maybe, just maybe we will see Qatar and Myanmar. What fantastic destinations if so...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2013, 10:55:49 PM
Whole pic here:

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/Aleij1963/CAPSTAR23/bb726fa6e1f511e2a38a22000aa805e3_7_zps5111c4d2.jpg) (http://s1300.photobucket.com/user/Aleij1963/media/CAPSTAR23/bb726fa6e1f511e2a38a22000aa805e3_7_zps5111c4d2.jpg.html)

WHo is the guy w./beard upper left corner? ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on June 30, 2013, 10:57:25 PM
Whole pic here:

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/Aleij1963/CAPSTAR23/bb726fa6e1f511e2a38a22000aa805e3_7_zps5111c4d2.jpg) (http://s1300.photobucket.com/user/Aleij1963/media/CAPSTAR23/bb726fa6e1f511e2a38a22000aa805e3_7_zps5111c4d2.jpg.html)

WHo is the guy w./beard upper left corner? ???
One of the Afghanimals? ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 30, 2013, 10:59:12 PM

WHo is the guy w./beard upper left corner? ???

That's prolly Tim from Tim & Marie (pink haired blonde)

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cabioTAR on June 30, 2013, 11:01:04 PM
You are right!! The Boston strong woman AND the Interracial couple woman!!

Intersection at final 4?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on June 30, 2013, 11:01:56 PM
And why is the Boston girl worked with Interracial couple?!?

Is it possible to have an Intersection at Final 4 ?!?!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 30, 2013, 11:03:13 PM
And the two cameras in the front are shooting to the work station on the right, and not to the girls.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 30, 2013, 11:25:44 PM
Looks like Japan again to me seeing the kimono-dressed lady behind one of those weird structures. :groan: I hope I'm wrong and it's South Korea.

What are they trying to make or function?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on June 30, 2013, 11:30:21 PM
Looks like Japan again to me seeing the kimono-dressed lady behind one of those weird structures. :groan: I hope I'm wrong and it's South Korea.

What are they trying to make or function?

Sorry, Rachel. It's Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 30, 2013, 11:45:34 PM
YES! Finally a new country! So does this mean leg 7 in UAE, leg 8 in Myanmar, and leg 9 in Indonesia?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 30, 2013, 11:45:37 PM
Peach isn't the only one who's been hoping for a Myanmar leg (I've been expecting one since Aung San Suu Kyi was released from house arrest and was elected to Parliament.)

So is it possible one of the alleged double legs weren't and Myanmar was visited instead? And Japan sets up a long, extra long flight for the final leg.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: loseaguy on June 30, 2013, 11:46:59 PM
Is Tokyo the last leg before they go back to the states?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 30, 2013, 11:53:12 PM
losaguy, they will be on their 22nd day of filming Monday 1 July US Time/Tuesday 2 July Tokyo time, and that's about the actual average length of filming beginning with TAR 13. And I have been expecting them to finish up around the 4th of July.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Slowhatch on June 30, 2013, 11:56:04 PM
Yangon? It sure looks a lot like the corner of Polk/Vallejo in SF (viewpoint here (http://goo.gl/maps/sWRlw)).
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on July 01, 2013, 12:10:40 AM
Wait a minute? Slowhatch, isn't really a Yangon spoiler is truly fake?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 01, 2013, 12:14:36 AM
Yangon? It sure looks a lot like the corner of Polk/Vallejo in SF (viewpoint here (http://goo.gl/maps/sWRlw)).

It does look like SF, but on the website with the pictures, she said "I deleted all my originals for that night and there’s no way to get them back. The instagramised pics reflect the artistic endeavours of Myanmar’s youth, many of whom have created similarly-inspired graffiti on street walls."

We can deduce from this a few things. The photographer deleted her original images, so she had to recreate some new ones based off of what she saw in Myanmar. This is just pure spec so I could be wrong, but I believe that this pic is of SF, but it just reminded her of Yangon. She is pictured with Phil, so there is no way that picture is in SF (how could he be); however, the other pictures might be of SF. However, the last picture I believe was taken in Yangon, as it "shows local children mingling with our press con at the event".

This is just my two cents, so I do believe that Myanmar was visited.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on July 01, 2013, 12:49:54 AM
Yangon? It sure looks a lot like the corner of Polk/Vallejo in SF (viewpoint here (http://goo.gl/maps/sWRlw)).

It does look like SF, but on the website with the pictures, she said "I deleted all my originals for that night and there’s no way to get them back. The instagramised pics reflect the artistic endeavours of Myanmar’s youth, many of whom have created similarly-inspired graffiti on street walls."

We can deduce from this a few things. The photographer deleted her original images, so she had to recreate some new ones based off of what she saw in Myanmar. This is just pure spec so I could be wrong, but I believe that this pic is of SF, but it just reminded her of Yangon. She is pictured with Phil, so there is no way that picture is in SF (how could he be); however, the other pictures might be of SF. However, the last picture I believe was taken in Yangon, as it "shows local children mingling with our press con at the event".

This is just my two cents, so I do believe that Myanmar was visited.
hopefully its fake but as you know that Myanmar is now on a political transition, after 5 decades of military rule there and during that brutal era in the history of Myanmar, tourism, foreign investments and international diplomacy are not too easy to get there and so much human rights violations.  We'll see if that country, Myanmar will become one of the most successful Asian nation in the future like in the countries of South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and Singapore, if the democratic transition will go well and the people of Myanmar will be united and more courage to themselves.

P.S.
no Philippines again for TAR 23 and to my gov't out there would you please fix our NAIA Terminal 1 already so that it won't be one of the worst airport in the world and TAR US will re-visit to our country, again since 2004. (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on July 01, 2013, 12:51:56 AM
If they show ONE PICTURE of Aung San Suu Kyi I will be very happy <3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on July 01, 2013, 01:45:02 AM
Yangon? It sure looks a lot like the corner of Polk/Vallejo in SF (viewpoint here (http://goo.gl/maps/sWRlw)).

Slowhatch has done it again!!

Absolute match to San Francisco.  I'd say a long time ago too based on the two sizes of the ficus tree.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on July 01, 2013, 04:16:22 AM
South Korea or Japan... DING DING DING! But no Philippines. BOO
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on July 01, 2013, 09:43:02 AM
Perhaps the tweet and mentioning Myanmar,  were done with deception in mind to get anyone trying to follow them thinking they went to  Myanmar.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on July 01, 2013, 12:09:32 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that tourists and visitors fall off the global grid in Myanmar, so it is possible for the Race to slip in and out without contemporaneous eyewitness accounts. We'd only see something once visitors were outside the country, and regain access to the internet.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 01, 2013, 03:46:48 PM
I will not give up on Myanmar! It's too exciting  :cheer:

What if they went to Myanmar, but they didn't have a pit stop, and they only did a roadblock/detour and/or miscellaneous task? They've done it before (Tar 14 leg 2; Tar 18 leg 9; Tar 9 leg 6; & Tar 7 finale).

So maybe the route will go like this:

Leg 7: Abu Dhabi, UAE
Leg 8: Abu Dhabi, UAE
Leg 9: Abu Dhabi UAE --> Yangon, Myanmar --> Bandung, Indonesia


I really hope Myanmar is visited- they haven't (technically) visited any new countries since Tar 20! (French Polynesia is a territory of France & Northern Ireland is part of the UK). It's making me mad  :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 01, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
Apparently there are two Padaungs in Myanmar- one is a small village in the north, home to the Kayan ethnic group {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padaung_(village)}. The other is in central Myanmar, about halfway between Yangon & Nay Pyi Taw (I looked Padaung up on Google Earth and I found this one)- the one in central Myanmar is home to a couple of temples, but noting else major, at least that I could see.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on July 01, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
On June 27th a facebook page by the name of "Beauty of Myanmar" posted the following:

"Amazing Race in Myanmar namely "PADAUNG". Have you been seen to them?"

Source (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=549783385078142&set=a.525759920813822.1073741828.522482854474862&type=1&theater)

June 26, possibly a local thing?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on July 01, 2013, 04:42:29 PM
From what I understand, if they visited Myanmar, it would be leg 8, replacing the second leg in Abu Dhabi. But this is all spec, and should go in the spec thread.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 01, 2013, 05:04:03 PM
If they show ONE PICTURE of Aung San Suu Kyi I will be very happy <3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on July 01, 2013, 05:58:42 PM
Anthony Boundain's CNN series went to Myanmar for its first season which just finished airing and was filmed a few months ago; and he mentioned that all foreign tourist travel is limited to a triangular area in the center of the country, so the Padaung that's near Yangon, is most likely the location that TAR would have gone to as between those two locations.
Again, I realize we haven't confirmed this as part of a leg, but it does help refine the potential locations that might have been visited.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 01, 2013, 06:20:18 PM
Here are some pictures from google earth of Padaung (the one in Central Myanmar):

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on July 01, 2013, 06:44:58 PM
Anthony Boundain's CNN series went to Myanmar for its first season which just finished airing and was filmed a few months ago; and he mentioned that all foreign tourist travel is limited to a triangular area in the center of the country, so the Padaung that's near Yangon, is most likely the location that TAR would have gone to as between those two locations.
Again, I realize we haven't confirmed this as part of a leg, but it does help refine the potential locations that might have been visited.

I was in Myanmar a few years back and wasn't sure of the extent of tourist travel or commercial filming, but the major tourist areas are in a kite shape from Yangon to Taunggyi to Mandalay to Bagan. If I were a producer and got to go to Myanmar, though, I would definitely milk it and make two legs out of it!

It's possible to use Facebook there via proxy, but you need to find an internet cafe that knows how to get around the blocks.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DavidJunior on July 02, 2013, 12:54:41 AM
I'm at the ready!

If you need me to get to SFO, try and give me some advanced notice... it takes a while to get up there, especially if it's during rush hour traffic... (1 hour plus, depending)

SJC is just up the freeway from me (remote possibility) and should only take 15 minutes

Fingers crossed that they return to the Bay!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on July 02, 2013, 02:02:41 PM
Oh where, oh where
Has my WRP gone?
Oh where, oh where could they be?
With the budget cut short
And season cut long
Oh where, oh where could they be?

 :tantrum
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on July 02, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
Ditto.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on July 02, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Oh where, oh where
Has my WRP gone?
Oh where, oh where could they be?
With the budget cut short
And season cut long
Oh where, oh where could they be?

 :tantrum

This.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on July 02, 2013, 02:16:56 PM
Heh, Damn Twitters>>not. :pull
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Candi Lee on July 02, 2013, 02:17:43 PM
 stealth racing ....  :umn:  :waves: happy hunting!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on July 02, 2013, 02:28:57 PM
Heh, Damn Twitters>>not. :pull

dunno, I see plenty of OPEN CALL tweets... for next season...  :funny: :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on July 02, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
If Juneau, AK Mendenhall Glacier and pan for gold. A good route point going up the mountain in a gondola.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on July 02, 2013, 04:27:59 PM
Is Fats Domino a hint for Blueberry Lodge, or Blueberry Hill, or Blueberry Lane, or pick blueberries? In Juneau. don't u know.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on July 02, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
There is apparently a section called Blueberry Hill in Juneau. From the looks of it, it'd be a good place to finish or at least have a final task.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on July 02, 2013, 06:34:50 PM
Looks like we are darned lucky they got into Hoonah at all!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on July 02, 2013, 06:44:07 PM
Every image I've seen of Juneau today looked wet, so I imagine it's been raining all day there. It's not surprising for that area.

Do we know that TAR went to the zipline at Hoonah? From this tweet

Dawn Cavanaugh ‏@Loving_alaska 49m
Over run by tv camera crews around here in the past 16 hours. The amazing race and a small crew filming the Zipline in Hoonah.


I got the impression that The Amazing Race is around the area and a separate production is filming the Zipline at Hoonah.

However, a zipline would be something I'd expect to see on the finale, so maybe you all are right.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on July 02, 2013, 07:03:26 PM
Based on this picture from Google Maps, I would guess that teams got to Hoonah via helicopter.

(http://i41.[banned image hosting site].com/2mpiyip.png)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on July 02, 2013, 07:09:37 PM
Chateau has the 2 airlines that fly in there documented, but helicopters are always nice?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on July 02, 2013, 07:14:04 PM
Lots of helicopter companies around:

Coastal (http://www.coastalhelicopters.com/)

The fewer taxis the better!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on July 02, 2013, 07:32:25 PM
Lots of helicopter companies around:

Coastal (http://www.coastalhelicopters.com/)

The fewer taxis the better!


Teams could've used speedboats.. ???


@mikeboyce
2hrs ago

"High speed chase in Progress.. Alaska"


(http://i.imgur.com/uhvDTeM.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on July 02, 2013, 07:33:59 PM
Helicopters are also a great way to throw in those HD shots that would really drive this location home
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on July 02, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
The weather is not on our side today, rainy, cloudy, low ceilings. Hope they DID get some pretty shots anyway!! :(

Like the boats!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on July 02, 2013, 08:13:50 PM
Lots of helicopter companies around:

Coastal (http://www.coastalhelicopters.com/)

The fewer taxis the better!


Teams could've used speedboats.. ???


@mikeboyce
2hrs ago

"High speed chase in Progress.. Alaska"


(http://i.imgur.com/uhvDTeM.jpg)


Gotta be us! This poster is on a cruise ship near Juneau... :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on July 02, 2013, 10:58:31 PM
Loving the speedboats, exciting.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on July 02, 2013, 11:19:13 PM
Juneau :hrt: A city other than Anchorage will be great. Does anyone know where a potential finish line may be?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Slowhatch on July 02, 2013, 11:23:08 PM
Quote
...poster is on a cruise ship near Juneau
  :gaah: Why didn't I think of that? Cruise ships have webcams too.  :groan:
Find one through MarineTraffic (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/), and fetch a camera (http://www.princess.com/bridgecams/ap/grand_bridgecam.html).
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on July 02, 2013, 11:33:31 PM
Now you tell me, lol. You have the coolest things!! :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: aryanisetiawan on July 03, 2013, 01:45:40 AM
i'm thinking of a flag memory challenge. teams will be given the outline of the flag with no colors. teams have to paint it with the colors provided
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on July 03, 2013, 01:47:05 AM
Depends how big the flags are. Portugal could be hard to paint if small.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: aryanisetiawan on July 03, 2013, 02:01:31 AM
i just remembered that portugal is kinda compliated to color, maybe in that case. teams will only color the background of the flag. as you can see the rest of the flags are very easy to color   
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on July 03, 2013, 02:35:05 AM
I can only hope for Switchback from TAR12.. The best memory challenge ever!!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on July 03, 2013, 05:23:05 AM
I just joined last May. Can teams still be identified even if the crew's done filming?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on July 03, 2013, 07:03:19 AM
I just joined last May. Can teams still be identified even if the crew's done filming?

Of course!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Candi Lee on July 03, 2013, 09:55:43 AM
https://twitter.com/bunnydlooney

Bunny Asfian @ bunnydlooney 6h
The new dr BDG last week!!! RT @ rizkisya : @ bunnydlooney in jakarta bun filming new season?? Aahh why ga pair?? : D

Bunny Asfian @ bunnydlooney 7h
Pengen clay shooting The Amazing Race aku yang aku!!!! TT

Bunny Asfian @ bunnydlooney 7h
Aaahhhh ENVY YOU SO MUCH!!! RT @ aryantsoeseno Something to jealous for ..... ME & mr.Phil Keoghan pic.twitter.com/kvKFW1o5on
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on July 03, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
It seems like the teams didn't return to Juneau after traveling by speedboat to Hoonah/Chichagof Island after the speedboating. It would take so long to motor to the zip line an then jet back. That's why Lemesuriur Island or Pleasant Island is my guess on the Finish Line and/or final task location.

If they did return back to Juneau, Mendenhall Glacier may be a hot spot for the finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Tarfan37 on July 03, 2013, 06:55:31 PM
i have a friend that is from from anchorage... and she said that its hard to get to juneau.. because its an isloated city...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on July 03, 2013, 09:01:02 PM
i have a friend that is from from anchorage... and she said that its hard to get to juneau.. because its an isloated city...
The only way to get there by highway is through Canada, and there's nothing particularly direct from there to Anchorage.
Also, when the Race most recently ended in Anchorage, the finish map was at an air strip that was well outside of the city. I recall it being something like 30 miles south. after teams had tasks in the city center and on the north side, IIRC.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a similar pattern this time, and probably something similar to the finish a few seasons back in Honolulu.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on July 03, 2013, 10:34:49 PM

The only way to get there by highway is through Canada, and there's nothing particularly direct from there to Anchorage.


Do you have a number for that highway through Canada to Juneau? I think most Alaskans would be seriously bewildered to find that out. You cannot drive from Juneau to anywhere, except up and down the coast a few miles.

If you are talking about the Alaska Marine Highway.....then you can reach Skagway or Haines and then take highways into the Yukon Territories and connect with the Alcan Highway, but that is by ferry service only. The Alaska Marine Highway connects Bellingham, Washington with all the major cites of SE Alaska......and to other points north and west.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Marine_Highway
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on July 03, 2013, 10:43:16 PM
I think Juneau is spectacular. I wonder if Hoonah was the elimination station?
We will have to wait and see what the final tasks were.
WRP did a good job hiding many of the tasks and places.
I love the summer scenery in Alaska.
Getting around by boat was cool too, just like the temperatures.
I love the race over all and most places.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tarflyonthewall on July 04, 2013, 02:24:27 AM
One thing to keep in mind is that tourists and visitors fall off the global grid in Myanmar, so it is possible for the Race to slip in and out without contemporaneous eyewitness accounts. We'd only see something once visitors were outside the country, and regain access to the internet.

Also, we don't traditionally get many spoilers from India legs.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on July 09, 2013, 11:31:40 AM
I hate how they had 3 2 legs in one country... Have they cut the budget or something?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on July 09, 2013, 11:36:56 AM
I hate how they had 3 2 legs in one country... Have they cut the budget or something?

This has been the normal almost every season has that  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Picklelowpete on July 10, 2013, 04:23:49 AM
Can someone update the forum on how far the blonde F/F team got? As well as Boston M/F team? There's been a lot of confusion about whether or not the leg in Bundang was a NEL leg. Thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on July 10, 2013, 04:29:59 AM
Can someone update the forum on how far the blonde F/F team got? As well as Boston M/F team? There's been a lot of confusion about whether or not the leg in Bundang Bandung ;) was a NEL leg. Thank you!

Hi Picklelowpete..!  :bigwelcome

As far as I'm concern, Ashley & Ally finished their race in either the first LEG in Bandung or the second one, we don't have yet gather an accurate info on NEL in Bandung, but they took off from the city on Saturday (the day after the second LEG was held) and according to our sightings, Boston made it up until Tokyo, they could be racing further though! ;)



Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Loken on July 10, 2013, 10:13:26 AM
I hate how they had 3 2 legs in one country... Have they cut the budget or something?

This has been the normal almost every season has that  :groan:

Cause earlier seasons they didn't do that..
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Snooky on July 16, 2013, 11:27:26 PM
Sources tell that the outcome of this race will be very satisfying; that's all I can confirm publicly, sorry. :(
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on July 17, 2013, 10:41:37 AM
Sources tell that the outcome of this race will be very satisfying; that's all I can confirm publicly, sorry. :(
Well, definitely not a dating team! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hooky on July 18, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
Sources tell that the outcome of this race will be very satisfying; that's all I can confirm publicly, sorry. :(

 :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on July 18, 2013, 07:49:25 PM
Depends really on who your rooting for though, doesn't it.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on July 18, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
Sources tell that the outcome of this race will be very satisfying; that's all I can confirm publicly, sorry. :(

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: WinTar on July 23, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
As per the pictures posted in the live sightings thread, it looks like the three teams in the Final Three are: Amy & Jason, Tim & Marie and the Afghanimals.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on July 23, 2013, 09:58:07 AM
As per the pictures posted in the live sightings thread, it looks like the three teams in the Final Three are: Amy & Jason, Tim & Marie and the Afghanimals.

Darn!  Well, I hope Amy & Jason or Tim & Marie aren't too bad.  And at least the Afghanimals don't seem like an alpha male team to me.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on August 04, 2013, 11:14:14 AM
As per the pictures posted in the live sightings thread, it looks like the three teams in the Final Three are: Amy & Jason, Tim & Marie and the Afghanimals.

Darn!  Well, I hope Amy & Jason or Tim & Marie aren't too bad.  And at least the Afghanimals don't seem like an alpha male team to me.

If you check out Marie on Instagram she seems hysterical. Hopefully racing with her ex won't make them this fighting couple and we don't get to see that side of her.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on August 28, 2013, 10:16:41 AM

any hints on the Starting Line..?!?

Cowboy theme park..?!?!



(http://i.imgur.com/wOX0lcs.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on August 28, 2013, 10:35:20 AM

I've got Frontier Village in San Jose, California


http://www.frontiervillage.net/index.html


but unfortunately they were closed down :(




and I found this... but it's too far away near Arizona,,


http://www.stockfreeimages.com/5394405/Old-Wild-West-Cowboy-Settler-Scenic.html



(http://i.imgur.com/3yiAdxh.jpg)




or maybe just simply a Hollywood set up stage... :P




Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on August 28, 2013, 10:36:07 AM

any hints on the Starting Line..?!?

Cowboy theme park..?!?!



(http://i.imgur.com/wOX0lcs.jpg)

the answer is Santa Clarita Melody Ranch (studio) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28796.msg920785.html#msg920785)  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on August 28, 2013, 10:37:24 AM

yeah, just barely read that seconds after I posted... thanks Boingo!!


 :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on August 28, 2013, 05:20:59 PM
How were teams spotted in LAX if San Jose is so much closer to San Francisco and Oakland Int'l Airport? :ascared Either they arrive at LAX on the same flight or the route makers stupidly made them drive through the Modesto-Bakersfield area inti Los Angeles.

Anyways, glad they finally chose the Bay Area as a starting line location.


Finally could fetch the link after several attempts, Boingo. Thanks! Northwest LA it is!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on August 28, 2013, 05:22:56 PM
It isnt near San Fran, it is about an hour from LAX. Recheck the Google map....


https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Santa+Clarita+Melody+Ranch&hl=en&ll=34.383582,-118.512068&spn=0.000675,0.000862&sll=34.38055,-118.510342&sspn=0.002699,0.003449&t=h&deg=180&z=20
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on August 28, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
Since they're going to Abu Dhabi for this season, hopefully they'll go to this place: Capital Gate [aka The Leaning Tower of Abu Dhabi]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Gate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Gate)

(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/2rf3b01.jpg)

 :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on August 28, 2013, 09:46:11 PM
Wow that is a huge picture  :o


is that people rappelling down the building..?

when was this taken..?

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on August 28, 2013, 10:08:54 PM
Did the teams seriously hop out of a cowboy western trolley? :lol:

In the meet the teams video, you could see Ally or Ashley exiting a cartoon train of some sort behind the NFL players' run.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: sox15 on August 29, 2013, 10:44:29 PM
So, I'm watching Intentional Talk on the MLB Network.  They're talking about Getz & DeJesus's wives.  In the sidebar of the screen, it says "logged 35,000 miles traveling over a month this summer".  Could this mean they're in the final 3?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on August 30, 2013, 12:20:49 AM
I think it just means that the race went 35000 miles.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: SamualDude on September 14, 2013, 08:05:37 PM
I just realised that in the press release it talks about Formula One Racing in Abu Dhabi. I think that will be a switchback to Season 15 with the Fast Forward in Dubai.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NumfarPTB on September 26, 2013, 06:20:57 AM
Seem like there's already a title for Leg 2:
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/amazing-race/listings/

10/6/13 (Su.)   8:30 PM   CBS   (#2302) Zip It, Bingo

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on September 26, 2013, 09:24:29 AM
Seem like there's already a title for Leg 2:
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/amazing-race/listings/

10/6/13 (Su.)   8:30 PM   CBS   (#2302) Zip It, Bingo

Already covered in the media thread :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Ikurriña on September 27, 2013, 12:26:22 AM
Is Kim performing both roadblocks?
We can see that she's doing the Paraglide task in the sneak peek.
And we can see in the spoilers photos that Nicole is waiting her to complete the boat roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Lutpay on September 27, 2013, 12:49:45 AM
Is Kim performing both roadblocks?
We can see that she's doing the Paraglide task in the sneak peek.
And we can see in the spoilers photos that Nicole is waiting her to complete the boat roadblock.

I think Ally did both too. Now, I don't understand.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on September 27, 2013, 08:05:59 AM
Is Kim performing both roadblocks?
We can see that she's doing the Paraglide task in the sneak peek.
And we can see in the spoilers photos that Nicole is waiting her to complete the boat roadblock.

It was happened before in The Amazing Race Australia 2, Leg 3 (India). Some team members did perform both roadblocks.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on September 27, 2013, 09:31:33 AM
Is Kim performing both roadblocks?
We can see that she's doing the Paraglide task in the sneak peek.
And we can see in the spoilers photos that Nicole is waiting her to complete the boat roadblock.

I think Ally did both too. Now, I don't understand.

I think Travis did both two, but I'm not sure.

At the beginning of the season is not really a problem and they can do whatever, but it becomes a problem later on when the teams needs to have an equal amount of Roadblocks performed.

It has happened a few times where one of the team member has done all their roadblocks so productions writes in the clue that "____ needs to perform this roadblock" or "If one team member performed tha last roadblock, the other team member must do this"... I'm paraphrasing obviously but you get the idea.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: kiki on September 27, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
^ Or it could be like what happened in the first episode of TAR 20 where the team member that did not perform the RB went skydiving while the one doing the RB had to navigate to the dropzone.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Lutpay on September 27, 2013, 11:18:08 AM
^ Or it could be like what happened in the first episode of TAR 20 where the team member that did not perform the RB went skydiving while the one doing the RB had to navigate to the dropzone.

No way, since Jamal did the second Roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on September 28, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
I'm going to speculate half of the teams are going to misspronounce Iquique when they read the clue.  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on September 30, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
Hmmm, we have been speculating that the "Knight" challenge seen in promos would be taking place in Poland as a sort of switchback. But with the Ep 3 title being "King Arthur Style" does it seem to y'all that perhaps it could be in Lisbon instead? Would also explain why CBS spoiled at least one team as making it that far in the promos...

Thoughts?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on September 30, 2013, 04:43:45 PM
Hmmm, we have been speculating that the "Knight" challenge seen in promos would be taking place in Poland as a sort of switchback. But with the Ep 3 title being "King Arthur Style" does it seem to y'all that perhaps it could be in Lisbon instead? Would also explain why CBS spoiled at least one team as making it that far in the promos...

Thoughts?

That's certainly a possibility in the abstract; do we have any Portuguese speakers who want to take a crack on finding any King Arthur references via the search engines? I would think that would be the most likely way to see if there's anything that was pre-existing that would support that notion.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ovalorange on September 30, 2013, 06:44:25 PM
I interpreted this to be talking about the sword fighting, so I would have guessed Norway :duno:

So one of the exciting places we get to [go] this season is Norway, and that's Viking country, so let's just say that we tap into some of the Viking spirit, and perhaps some things that Vikings were tested with, and we have the teams sort of immerse themselves in that world for awhile,
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on September 30, 2013, 11:01:14 PM
I interpreted this to be talking about the sword fighting, so I would have guessed Norway :duno:

So one of the exciting places we get to [go] this season is Norway, and that's Viking country, so let's just say that we tap into some of the Viking spirit, and perhaps some things that Vikings were tested with, and we have the teams sort of immerse themselves in that world for awhile,

I don't about you guys but vikings don't relate to heavy armour to me. Helmet and shield tops.

According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age_arms_and_armour

Quote
These arms were also indicative of a Viking's social status. As war was the most prestigious activity in Viking Age Scandinavia, beautifully finished weapons were an important way for a warrior to display his wealth and status. A wealthy Viking would likely have a complete ensemble of a spear, one or two javelins, a wooden shield, and either a battle axe or a sword. The very richest might have a helmet, other armour is thought to have been limited to the nobility and their professional warriors. The average farmer was likely limited to a spear, shield, and perhaps a common axe or a large knife. Some would bring their hunting bows to use in the opening stages of battle, as well.[3]

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NumfarPTB on October 01, 2013, 06:19:13 AM
Pure spec, from little data provided by title and the few shots from the preview.
Found some King Arthur Related things in Portugal, but they all seem to be outside of Lisbon.

Here's the English Text, which is a tad bit less detailed than the Portuguese version: http://www.visitportugal.com/NR/exeres/0DCEBD06-A391-4AA5-8203-FA2DFFF3E602,frameless.htm?mode=2 (http://www.visitportugal.com/NR/exeres/0DCEBD06-A391-4AA5-8203-FA2DFFF3E602,frameless.htm?mode=2)

(The content in Portuguese if you'd like to check it out: http://www.visitportugal.com/NR/exeres/0DCEBD06-A391-4AA5-8203-FA2DFFF3E602,frameless.htm
 (http://www.visitportugal.com/NR/exeres/0DCEBD06-A391-4AA5-8203-FA2DFFF3E602,frameless.htm)
This would take them out of Lisbon, but not a huge stretch. A potential place might the Tomar Castle due to its ties to the Templar, it's a 80 minute drive from the airport according to Google Maps. Seems like that region of the country does have a lot places with Knight related things.

Have yet to do comparisons to the few pics we got though. Was not able to find any mentions or potential sightings or filming notes, associated with the area within our timeframe, so it's pure spec from my part.

However it's an area named as part of UNESCO World Heritage, so wouldn't be a stretch as place that WRP to consider filming.

More Reference content:
Official Page: http://www.conventocristo.pt/pt/index.php?s=white&pid=185&identificador=ct114_pt (http://www.conventocristo.pt/pt/index.php?s=white&pid=185&identificador=ct114_pt)
And a curious page, about bookings/ space rental for private activites: http://www.conventocristo.pt/pt/index.php?s=white&pid=173&identificador=ct26_pt (http://www.conventocristo.pt/pt/index.php?s=white&pid=173&identificador=ct26_pt), I doubt they would tell me if I tried to inquiry about a possible booking back from June.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on October 02, 2013, 03:08:58 PM
The Castle of Almourol, isolated on a small island in the middle of the River Tagus, seems a likely place for an unseen knights joust.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 04, 2013, 05:32:04 AM
Yes!!! Brandon and Adam had made at least leg 4, thus leg 2 maybe a NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 04, 2013, 08:35:21 AM
Yes!!! Brandon and Adam had made at least leg 4, thus leg 2 maybe a NEL.

Quote
Yes!!! Brandon and Adam had made at least leg 4
>>true based on the Episode title, and sightings.
Quote
thus leg 2 maybe a NEL
  >>What makes you think that??  ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: stekay on October 04, 2013, 08:55:01 AM
Episode 4:

(http://i.imgur.com/1AW8BXI.png)

THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPAAAYYYY  :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on October 05, 2013, 12:39:49 AM
Yes!!! Brandon and Adam had made at least leg 4, thus leg 2 maybe a NEL.

Quote
thus leg 2 maybe a NEL
  >>What makes you think that??  ???

All we know for sure is that there are 8 teams in the 5th leg (Poland), so there has to be a NEL/TBC before the 5th leg... and the chances of having a NEL on leg 2 is 1 out of 6. :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cattychic on October 08, 2013, 11:24:18 AM
Hi , just wondering if anyone would tell me , pretty please , who the f3 teams are , or more importantly if my faves, Leo and Jamal make f3 . I would so greatly appreciate it :) If u can't post can someone pm me please.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Oddarane on October 08, 2013, 11:39:30 AM
Episode 4:

(http://i.imgur.com/1AW8BXI.png)

THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPAAAYYYY  :conf: :conf:

My home country :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on October 08, 2013, 06:27:09 PM
I wonder if the memory task of this season will have anything to do with the amount of Ocean related stuff...

Leg 1: Iquique's harbor, Prat Pier
Leg 2: Arturo Prat's quote when he was captain of the Esmeralda
Leg 3: Vasco de Gama look alike?  :crazy:
Leg 4: Svolvaer was stablish as a harbor  :crazy:
Leg 5: Sopot Pier is the pitstop in Gdansk
Leg 6: I think Vienna is big on rowing clubs  :crazy:

Could this be a thing?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on October 12, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
Maybe the final task will be to identify explorers with ports or something like that.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
I wonder if the memory task of this season will have anything to do with the amount of Ocean related stuff...

Leg 1: Iquique's harbor, Prat Pier
Leg 2: Arturo Prat's quote when he was captain of the Esmeralda
Leg 3: Vasco de Gama look alike?  :crazy:
Leg 4: Svolvaer was stablish as a harbor  :crazy:
Leg 5: Sopot Pier is the pitstop in Gdansk
Leg 6: I think Vienna is big on rowing clubs  :crazy:

Could this be a thing?

I like it if it holds...I was trying to think what it could be, always given that they even DO one. They have gotten lazy about it so we never know. But this is a good theme so far, great idea!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2013, 02:24:44 PM
Maybe the final task will be to identify explorers with ports or something like that.

Hee, I clearly failed. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: kiki on October 12, 2013, 03:41:12 PM
For the final memory task, I've noticed a pattern: So far the first task in each leg was to find a person

Leg One: Find Javier for the paragliding
Leg Two: Find the Officer of the day on board Esmeralda

I think in the third leg in Lisbon they have again to find someone. If that's the first task, it could mean something.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 12, 2013, 03:48:53 PM
ooooooooooooh!! I like that too!! :hearts: Hope they are keeping notes!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: stekay on October 12, 2013, 04:14:07 PM
Changing it from the pit stop greeter is actually an amazing and simple idea  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on October 12, 2013, 05:32:39 PM
For the final memory task, I've noticed a pattern: So far the first task in each leg was to find a person

Leg One: Find Javier for the paragliding
Leg Two: Find the Officer of the day on board Esmeralda

I think in the third leg in Lisbon they have again to find someone. If that's the first task, it could mean something.

Maybe it doesn't even need to be the first one but just remembering A NAME of someone you have met during every Leg could be a thing, is harder that remembering a Place or a Face... Arturo Prat could be the name on Leg 2...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 13, 2013, 08:34:01 PM
For the final memory task, I've noticed a pattern: So far the first task in each leg was to find a person

Leg One: Find Javier for the paragliding
Leg Two: Find the Officer of the day on board Esmeralda

I think in the third leg in Lisbon they have again to find someone. If that's the first task, it could mean something.
Maybe it doesn't even need to be the first one but just remembering A NAME of someone you have met during every Leg could be a thing, is harder that remembering a Place or a Face... Arturo Prat could be the name on Leg 2...
Leg 3: Find the Portuguese singer in a red? dress (stagecoach painting clue)

If Norway will require finding a person, it's a definite lock or else in Juneau I would be shocked. :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on October 21, 2013, 02:37:49 PM
Episode 6 will be titled "Choir Boy At Heart" (Per CBS website)

This episode will focus on a mix of Mozart and Beethoven in Vienna.

Vienna Boys' Choir   :cheer:



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Wiener_Saengerknaben.jpg)


Palais Augarten Vienna

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Palais_Augarten_Vienna.jpg/800px-Palais_Augarten_Vienna.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 21, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Oh I hope so!! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on October 21, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
For the final memory task, I've noticed a pattern: So far the first task in each leg was to find a person

Leg One: Find Javier for the paragliding
Leg Two: Find the Officer of the day on board Esmeralda

I think in the third leg in Lisbon they have again to find someone. If that's the first task, it could mean something.
Maybe it doesn't even need to be the first one but just remembering A NAME of someone you have met during every Leg could be a thing, is harder that remembering a Place or a Face... Arturo Prat could be the name on Leg 2...
Leg 3: Find the Portuguese singer in a red? dress (stagecoach painting clue)

If Norway will require finding a person, it's a definite lock or else in Juneau I would be shocked. :yess:

It didn't hold up, Leg 4 didn't have anyone in particular, maybe the people at the pitstop party?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 21, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
For the final memory task, I've noticed a pattern: So far the first task in each leg was to find a person

Leg One: Find Javier for the paragliding
Leg Two: Find the Officer of the day on board Esmeralda

I think in the third leg in Lisbon they have again to find someone. If that's the first task, it could mean something.
Maybe it doesn't even need to be the first one but just remembering A NAME of someone you have met during every Leg could be a thing, is harder that remembering a Place or a Face... Arturo Prat could be the name on Leg 2...
Leg 3: Find the Portuguese singer in a red? dress (stagecoach painting clue)

If Norway will require finding a person, it's a definite lock or else in Juneau I would be shocked. :yess:

It didn't hold up, Leg 4 didn't have anyone in particular, maybe the people at the pitstop party?
Could there be a transportation memory task? :ascared We've seen different modes of transportation in all the legs so far.

Leg 1 (Gliders), Leg 2 (Bikes), Leg 3 (Trolley), Leg 4 (Speedboat)

If this is right, then Gdansk, Poland will likely feature a ferry.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on October 21, 2013, 11:36:29 PM
I still think about TAR 12 memory final roadblock. Should the mix of many stuff at Detour, Route Info, Roadblock, Pit Stop.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on October 22, 2013, 12:00:15 AM
Maybe paradoxinee is right and will have a switchback to Season 12 memory task... probably the best one if you ask me...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on October 22, 2013, 03:03:05 AM
I fear Tim & Danny is going home after the next leg. :( I just wonder if they got u-turned (and if they did, I wonder who) or they had difficulty with a task.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on October 22, 2013, 03:19:34 AM
If Leg 4 wasn't a TBC or a NEL (and assuming that the bunnies caught up), Tim & Marie's mistakes would've have them eliminated with an express pass (or 2). They have to go back and get the Viking Longhouse clue if I'm not mistaken, right?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on October 22, 2013, 04:25:31 AM
If Leg 4 wasn't a TBC or a NEL (and assuming that the bunnies caught up), Tim & Marie's mistakes would've have them eliminated with an express pass (or 2). They have to go back and get the Viking Longhouse clue if I'm not mistaken, right?

They might survive though, we really don't know.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on October 22, 2013, 04:29:37 AM
If Leg 4 wasn't a TBC or a NEL (and assuming that the bunnies caught up), Tim & Marie's mistakes would've have them eliminated with an express pass (or 2). They have to go back and get the Viking Longhouse clue if I'm not mistaken, right?

They might survive though, we really don't know.

They will definitely survive leg 4 since it's a TBC. I was saying that if leg 4 wasn't a NEL/TBC. :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on October 22, 2013, 04:30:53 AM
If Leg 4 wasn't a TBC or a NEL (and assuming that the bunnies caught up), Tim & Marie's mistakes would've have them eliminated with an express pass (or 2). They have to go back and get the Viking Longhouse clue if I'm not mistaken, right?

They might survive though, we really don't know.

They will definitely survive leg 4 since it's a TBC. I was saying that if leg 4 wasn't a NEL/TBC. :)

Not come last sorry.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 24, 2013, 06:02:20 PM
I still think about TAR 12 memory final roadblock. Should the mix of many stuff at Detour, Route Info, Roadblock, Pit Stop.
We'll have to wait and see. It's still early in the Race to make a conjecture. There will be more evidence if we wait until Leg 7. So far, I can't imagine a teammate dragging an entire glider or canoe onto a platform to represent Leg 1. The fish has been featured in the previous Leg (Norway) and in Iquique already so I'm kind of doubting this task being used, but my doubts are usually reality soo... :juggle
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 25, 2013, 07:06:50 PM
Do you think we will have another "Charla & Mirna in Poland" story again?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Dånooky on October 27, 2013, 09:33:14 PM
So, I took a look at the Timeline and I have a feeling that the Viking Coins from Leg 4 will be used in the vending machine task in Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 27, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
Great thought!!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on October 27, 2013, 10:57:59 PM
the title for the 8th leg of TAR 23 is One Hot Camel and I think they're still racing in Abu Dhabi or they're going to Dubai, again which is a few distance away from that city? :colors
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on October 27, 2013, 11:01:54 PM
So, I took a look at the Timeline and I have a feeling that the Viking Coins from Leg 4 will be used in the vending machine task in Japan.
nah, since I haven't watched this week's episode yet, I do believe there's a connection to it on the annual celebration of a festival in Poland about the visitation of the Vikings to that country, and I found this one from facebook acct: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolin-Viking-festival/56771576185 and also this one: http://www.poland.travel/en/festival/slavs-and-vikings-festival-festiwal-slowian-i-wikingow
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Dånooky on October 28, 2013, 10:33:46 AM
So, I took a look at the Timeline and I have a feeling that the Viking Coins from Leg 4 will be used in the vending machine task in Japan.
nah, since I haven't watched this week's episode yet, I do believe there's a connection to it on the annual celebration of a festival in Poland about the visitation of the Vikings to that country, and I found this one from facebook acct: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolin-Viking-festival/56771576185 and also this one: http://www.poland.travel/en/festival/slavs-and-vikings-festival-festiwal-slowian-i-wikingow
The coins were not used in the episode
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on October 28, 2013, 10:46:56 AM
Or the finale? *prays for a bag of coins related to memory task*
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on October 28, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
the title for the 8th leg of TAR 23 is One Hot Camel and I think they're still racing in Abu Dhabi or they're going to Dubai, again which is a few distance away from that city? :colors
It's been a long, long time since we've seen camels on TAR, and we're way overdue for the return of Sheky.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on October 29, 2013, 04:09:21 AM
There's a livestock market at al-Ain in the Abu Dhabi Emirate, where there are plenty of camels...
(The market is right behind a modern, nicely air-conditioned shopping mall...)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 29, 2013, 05:24:10 AM
So is Tim/Danny eliminated this next Vienna leg or the first Abu Dhabi? We know that the Final 6 is Nicky/Kim, The Iceghanimals, Tim/Marie, Travis/Nicole, and Jason/Amy.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on October 29, 2013, 05:29:11 AM
So is Tim/Danny eliminated this next Vienna leg or the first Abu Dhabi? We know that the Final 6 is Nicky/Kim, The Iceghanimals, Tim/Marie, Travis/Nicole, and Jason/Amy.

:torche Maybe this time. Then we know F5 does not include the bunnies. Then probably the Ice Girls go home after the bunnies (not sure though).
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ovalorange on October 29, 2013, 05:49:18 AM
We know that the Final 6 is Nicky/Kim, The Iceghanimals, Tim/Marie, Travis/Nicole, and Jason/Amy.

Nope, Nicky/Kim are only safe until the end of this episode. Vienna could be a NEL and Nicky/Kim could be eliminated in Abu Dhabi 1 aka they may possibly be booted at the F7 :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 29, 2013, 06:12:48 AM
We know that the Final 6 is Nicky/Kim, The Iceghanimals, Tim/Marie, Travis/Nicole, and Jason/Amy.

Nope, Nicky/Kim are only safe until the end of this episode. Vienna could be a NEL and Nicky/Kim could be eliminated in Abu Dhabi 1 aka they may possibly be booted at the F7 :)

OMG I hope not if the Bunnies get out first before Tim/Danny </3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on October 29, 2013, 08:44:58 AM
So, I took a look at the Timeline and I have a feeling that the Viking Coins from Leg 4 will be used in the vending machine task in Japan.
nah, since I haven't watched this week's episode yet, I do believe there's a connection to it on the annual celebration of a festival in Poland about the visitation of the Vikings to that country, and I found this one from facebook acct: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolin-Viking-festival/56771576185 and also this one: http://www.poland.travel/en/festival/slavs-and-vikings-festival-festiwal-slowian-i-wikingow
The coins were not used in the episode
well, it was but that Viking coin thing if that'll be use on Tokyo leg for this season, they might use it on a detour/road block/route info task on a Japanese-style game show and there was a reality game show that was famed on that country almost 10 years ago and it's called Viking and I'd watched that show on Animax on cable tv about 3 years ago which was similar to a game show in the 1980s called Takeshi's Castle and it was a cult hit show.  But I do believe it's gone already, and hopefully we could see that for this season for a tribute to that game show. :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on October 29, 2013, 09:16:09 AM
We know that the Final 6 is Nicky/Kim, The Iceghanimals, Tim/Marie, Travis/Nicole, and Jason/Amy.

Nope, Nicky/Kim are only safe until the end of this episode. Vienna could be a NEL and Nicky/Kim could be eliminated in Abu Dhabi 1 aka they may possibly be booted at the F7 :)

So this means: If Vienna is a NEL, Bunnies finish in 7th; but if it's not, Oklahoma finish in 7th.?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on October 29, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
Or leg 6 is NEL, but Tim & Danny will be eliminated in UAE in 7th place, and Nicky & Kim in 6th place. We still don't know :shrug:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 29, 2013, 04:37:29 PM
Hmm, some of you are not reading the LIVE spoilers!! :groan:

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on October 29, 2013, 09:45:36 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/sRPWgUj.jpg)


Will they remain until the Final 3 ?!?

Will the position also remain like this?  :js:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on October 30, 2013, 10:53:15 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/sRPWgUj.jpg)


Will they remain until the Final 3 ?!?

Will the position also remain like this?  :js:

I hope this is the Final 3.  But I hope Tim & Marie finish 3rd, leaving Jason & Amy and Travis & Nicole to fight it out for the win!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on October 30, 2013, 11:23:34 AM
Hmm, some of you are not reading the LIVE spoilers!! :groan:

 :funny:

Nicky and Kim are safe through UAE, which is LEG 8. That means they survived both UAE legs guys and we will see them all the way till LEG 9.

The ones who are not safe = Tim and Danny and Ally and Ashley.

The LIVE spoiler thread plus the timeline thread has all the info. <3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2013, 12:39:39 PM
The LIVE thread is full of answers...but ^^that's not it. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on October 30, 2013, 12:54:50 PM
Didn't Indonesia provide us with the final 5...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on October 30, 2013, 04:30:35 PM
^ I thought Indonesia provided us with F5 of Ice girls, Afghans, Travis & Nicole, Timmarie, Jason & Amy.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on October 30, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
^ I thought Indonesia provided us with F5 of Ice girls, Afghans, Travis & Nicole, Timmarie, Jason & Amy.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on October 30, 2013, 09:16:41 PM
I thought we had this :

Show content
6th : Nicky & Kim
5th : Ally & Ashley
4th : Travis & Nicole
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on October 30, 2013, 10:39:39 PM
I thought we had this :

Show content
6th : Nicky & Kim
5th : Ally & Ashley
4th : Travis & Nicole

Was it official that they finished 4th? ??? Didn't see that in the spoilers. ???
All I remember was:
Show content
Jason & Amy and Tim & Marie made it to the F3.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on October 31, 2013, 08:19:29 AM
The LIVE thread is full of answers...but ^^that's not it. :funny:

LOL, I took it from the Timeline thread as well. So I guess some editing needs to be done? ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 02, 2013, 06:13:42 AM
Here's what I noticed about the bunnies:
Leg 2- back of the pack
Leg 3- front of the pack
Leg 4- back of the pack
Leg 5- front of the pack
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on November 02, 2013, 08:00:33 AM
Here's what I predict will happen

Leg 6: Jason & Amy NEL because of FF.
Leg 7: Tim & Danny eliminated
Leg 8:  Nicky & Kim eliminated
Leg 9: NEL
Leg 10: Ally & Ashley eliminated
Leg 11: Travis & Nicole eliminated


Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 03, 2013, 04:36:11 AM
Not a chance, Red. The predictions for leg 6 that Tim & Danny will be eliminated in this leg. So leg 7 will be NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 03, 2013, 07:07:52 AM
Not a chance, Red. The predictions for leg 6 that Tim & Danny will be eliminated in this leg. So leg 7 will be NEL.

This leg 6 might be NEL. We have no confirmation about its elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 03, 2013, 07:46:03 AM
Not a chance, Red. The predictions for leg 6 that Tim & Danny will be eliminated in this leg. So leg 7 will be NEL.

This leg 6 might be NEL. We have no confirmation about its elimination.

All we know is that they'll finish in 7th. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on November 03, 2013, 06:02:26 PM
Not a chance, Red. The predictions for leg 6 that Tim & Danny will be eliminated in this leg. So leg 7 will be NEL.

We shall see.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paldog123456 on November 03, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
Not a chance, Red. The predictions for leg 6 that Tim & Danny will be eliminated in this leg. So leg 7 will be NEL.

We shall see.

Although it's possible for a NEL for leg 6, it would make more sense logistically to be in leg 7, as both legs 7 and 8 are in UAE. TAR loves to include NEL's in the middle of back-to-back double country legs (although this trend has been defied, too, such as in TAR 21 when there was a NEL in the second Bangladesh leg). My money is on an elimination this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Lutpay on November 03, 2013, 06:30:22 PM
Not a chance, Red. The predictions for leg 6 that Tim & Danny will be eliminated in this leg. So leg 7 will be NEL.

We shall see.

Although it's possible for a NEL for leg 6, it would make more sense logistically to be in leg 7, as both legs 7 and 8 are in UAE. TAR loves to include NEL's in the middle of back-to-back double country legs (although this trend has been defied, too, such as in TAR 21 when there was a NEL in the second Bangladesh leg). My money is on an elimination this leg.

Yep, they could easily send the 5th eliminated team to the ES before reaching Asia (Abu Dhabi), they usually did that on the past seasons
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: WinTar on November 04, 2013, 06:16:15 AM
The memory task looks definitely to be the finding the person as said by others.

Leg 1: Find Javier
Leg 2: Find the Officer
Leg 3: Find the Singer in Red
Leg 4: ? (I'll have to re-watch again and see. ;))
Leg 5: Find the foreman
Leg 6: Find the rigoletto
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 04, 2013, 06:30:02 AM
I think they didn't need to find someone at leg 4?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 04, 2013, 06:34:27 AM
I think they didn't need to find someone at leg 4?

It was in the middle of the night. ???
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on November 04, 2013, 06:36:36 AM
Could be a trick? Could trick the teams :P
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on November 04, 2013, 06:36:39 AM
Quote
Leg 4: ? (I'll have to re-watch again and see. ;))

They had to find the pit-stop just by a picture clue. If that's even counted. But then again, they could have considered Leg 4 as Leg 4 part 1 and Leg 5 as Leg 4 part 2, so it's still possible if they don't find anyone on Leg 4.

In TAR 3, the final RB didn't include animals they encountered on every leg as well and some legs did not feature any animals too.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: gamerfan09 on November 04, 2013, 06:53:51 AM
What if the Leg 4 is the judge at the Ford Focus task :P
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Hysha on November 04, 2013, 12:11:57 PM
Leg 11: Travis & Nicole eliminated

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ¬¬ Travis & Nicole to the final three!


IMPORTANT DATUM!
Have you noted that every country's flag has the colours red and white? I don't think it's coincidence... Maybe they have to do something at the final? Paint the flags?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NMC on November 04, 2013, 12:26:29 PM
Hey, I'm new here so bare with me Lol.. :waves:

I'm pretty annoyed that Nicky & Kim are gonna be the next team eliminated! :(

I really wasn't looking forward to watching them before the season started and even as far as the 3rd Leg I didn't care for them, but the past 2 Legs, they've really impressed me, and I sooooo wanted them to beat Travis and Nicole to the Pit Stop last night, just to have a different team win and "spice" things up a bit.

I think they're my new favourite team still in the race, just a pity they're gonna be the next to go!!!    :gaah:  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 04, 2013, 05:10:25 PM
IMPORTANT DATUM!
Have you noted that every country's flag has the colours red and white? I don't think it's coincidence... Maybe they have to do something at the final? Paint the flags?

Flag of Portugal only has small part of white color, and I think it's hard to color it. I like this idea, though <3
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: stekay on November 04, 2013, 05:38:53 PM
IMPORTANT DATUM!
Have you noted that every country's flag has the colours red and white? I don't think it's coincidence... Maybe they have to do something at the final? Paint the flags?

Flag of Portugal only has small part of white color, and I think it's hard to color it. I like this idea, though <3
Wow good spot! The rest of route is the same if I'm right?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 04, 2013, 08:57:35 PM
IMPORTANT DATUM!
Have you noted that every country's flag has the colours red and white? I don't think it's coincidence... Maybe they have to do something at the final? Paint the flags?

Flag of Portugal only has small part of white color, and I think it's hard to color it. I like this idea, though <3
Wow good spot! The rest of route is the same if I'm right?
UAE has red, green, and white
Indonesia has red and white
Japan has white and a red dot

Now, the big question is WHERE in Juneau or Hoonah could this fit in since the Alaskan Panhandle is a cold and rainy region. Paint and color isn'r good in chilly, moist temperatures.

Do you think when teams finish the Hoonah zipline, the memory task will take place afterward?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 05, 2013, 03:32:55 AM
Hey, I'm new here so bare with me Lol.. :waves:

I'm pretty annoyed that Nicky & Kim are gonna be the next team eliminated! :(

I really wasn't looking forward to watching them before the season started and even as far as the 3rd Leg I didn't care for them, but the past 2 Legs, they've really impressed me, and I sooooo wanted them to beat Travis and Nicole to the Pit Stop last night, just to have a different team win and "spice" things up a bit.

I think they're my new favourite team still in the race, just a pity they're gonna be the next to go!!!    :gaah:  (:;)

 :hello2: , and :bigwelcome to RFF, nmccarroll91!
I also wish that they'd win a leg before going home. :ascared 1 more leg to find out if they can finally win a leg. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NMC on November 05, 2013, 07:56:34 AM

 :hello2: , and :bigwelcome to RFF, nmccarroll91!
I also wish that they'd win a leg before going home. :ascared 1 more leg to find out if they can finally win a leg. ;)

Hey, and Thanks Platinum :)

I'd :hrt: to see them win the next Leg but somehow doubt it  :pity
I noticed though, that if the bunnies do win the next Leg, they'll be the 3rd team this season to be eliminated after coming 1st the previous Leg -
Chester & Ephraim - 1st Leg 2, Elim Leg 3
Brendon & Adam - 1st Leg 4, Elim Leg 5
:funny:
Dont recall this ever happening twice in the same season before, let alone 3 times.  It would be great to see none the less! Lol

IMPORTANT DATUM!
Have you noted that every country's flag has the colours red and white? I don't think it's coincidence... Maybe they have to do something at the final? Paint the flags?

Flag of Portugal only has small part of white color, and I think it's hard to color it. I like this idea, though <3
Wow good spot! The rest of route is the same if I'm right?
UAE has red, green, and white
Indonesia has red and white
Japan has white and a red dot

I can see both these tasks being used for the final leg, maybe as 2 separate RBs? where both members have to do one?

The first RB could be to match the correct person they had to find to the country they were in, and then the second RB would be Paint the flags?  They'd would make for 2 pretty hard final challenges,  especially for teams that didn't pay much attention!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: SamualDude on November 06, 2013, 04:01:05 PM
Well in Season 3, JVJ and the twins were eliminated after winning the leg prior same in Season 11 with Rob & Amber and Uchenna & Joyce, Season 17 with Connor & Jonathan and Chad & Stephanie.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NMC on November 07, 2013, 08:24:20 AM
Well in Season 3, JVJ and the twins were eliminated after winning the leg prior same in Season 11 with Rob & Amber and Uchenna & Joyce, Season 17 with Connor & Jonathan and Chad & Stephanie.

I stand MASSIVELY corrected!  :funny:
Having said that, it has never happened twice this early on in the race, and has never happened 3 times, so here's hoping Nicky & Kim win Leg 7   :conf:
Even if it does mean they'll go from First to Worst!  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 07, 2013, 08:30:03 AM
Well in Season 3, JVJ and the twins were eliminated after winning the leg prior same in Season 11 with Rob & Amber and Uchenna & Joyce, Season 17 with Connor & Jonathan and Chad & Stephanie.

I stand MASSIVELY corrected!  :funny:
Having said that, it has never happened twice this early on in the race, and has never happened 3 times, so here's hoping Nicky & Kim win Leg 7   :conf:
Even if it does mean they'll go from First to Worst!  :groan:

 :like: The biggest 1st to worst was Amanda & Chris, from 1st all the way to 11th.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NMC on November 07, 2013, 08:32:56 AM
Well in Season 3, JVJ and the twins were eliminated after winning the leg prior same in Season 11 with Rob & Amber and Uchenna & Joyce, Season 17 with Connor & Jonathan and Chad & Stephanie.

I stand MASSIVELY corrected!  :funny:
Having said that, it has never happened twice this early on in the race, and has never happened 3 times, so here's hoping Nicky & Kim win Leg 7   :conf:
Even if it does mean they'll go from First to Worst!  :groan:

 :like: The biggest 1st to worst was Amanda & Chris, from 1st all the way to 11th.

Kris & Amanda never came 1st in a Leg though... Gary and Mallory won the first leg, Kris and Amanda came 2nd.
Allison and Donny from season 5 is probably the biggest loss, as they won Leg 1, and were eliminated in Leg 2!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2013, 09:27:24 AM
Previous seasons can be discussed here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,22643.0.html

Let's all take this back to THIS season, okay?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Lutpay on November 10, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
Are there any unexpected runs like the Beekmans? Will we be surprised by who makes it far?

Keoghan: As the season progresses, it becomes very clear who is really playing the game well, but there are also a couple moments where teams you don't expect to be competing for MVP suddenly sneak up and make the other teams take notice. That's a little bit like the Beekmans, and I love that. Maybe a team doesn't perform well initially, but they get stronger as the season goes on. That always makes for interesting television. We also have some teams that look like shoo-ins for the final three and there's a shock turn and you're like, "What? They're gone?!" Yes, they're gone.

Phil's not lying this time  :funny:

The Bunnies and Ice Girls are clearly the next to go.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on November 10, 2013, 11:17:54 PM
The only team who's shoo-in for the Final Three IMHO is Travis and Nicole. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 10, 2013, 11:28:58 PM
So I think the memory task will be the one who gave the teams a clue:
Leg 1: Javier
Leg 2: the officer on deck
Leg 3: Fado performers
Leg 4: Phil
Leg 5: the foreman
Leg 6: Rigoletto
Leg 7: The man in Mosque
Leg 8: The man next to W-Uturn board.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on November 10, 2013, 11:30:36 PM
But the thing is, wouldn't such a memory task be too easy? :stare

Unless they have like 100 different pictures to choose from and they all look similar and alike, I really cannot imagine how difficult the task will be.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 10, 2013, 11:37:04 PM
Leg 7 and Leg 8 is something look very similar and Leg 4 is tricky :D
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on November 10, 2013, 11:46:57 PM
I think there's not gonna be any for Leg 4 and they are just gonna have 10 to remember. (No one from the final leg)

Sounds like a good number too.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 10, 2013, 11:48:50 PM
I think there's not gonna be any for Leg 4 and they are just gonna have 10 to remember. (No one from the final leg)

Sounds like a good number too.

Leg 4 is Phil who gave them the clue
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on November 10, 2013, 11:56:33 PM
Didn't we discuss that possibilty before? I feel like we have for some reason... Why did we discard it?

I feel like paradoxinee is totally right though... it sounds kind of easy but to be honest... memory task are not always hard...

TAR22: Find the ball for every country visited.
TAR21: Hello, Goodbye
TAR20: NONE
TAR19: Giant Map follow the Pitstop location with a rope while hanging.
TAR18: NONE IIRC
TAR17: Greteers GameShow
TAR16: Groovy Elimination Order
TAR15: NONE IIRC
TAR14: Surf Board Pictures
TAR13: Find Picture corresponding to the right task (Detour, Roadblock, Route Info)
TAR12: One of each leg.

TAR11: NONE (unless you consider the questions a memory task which I don't)

I can't really keep going out of pure memory... In bold the ones I consider to be hard...

Anyway I still have my fingers crossed for a switchback of TAR12 memory challenge
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Lutpay on November 10, 2013, 11:56:56 PM
From what I've seen, maybe not related but..

Leg 1: Collecting fish
Leg 4: Fish task
Leg 6: Die Forelle is a song about fishing
Leg 7: Sew fishing net
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 11, 2013, 12:04:07 AM
Yes, we're talking about this possibility before but wonder about leg 4 and I show that the one in Leg 4 is Phil :D
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on November 11, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
Yes, we're talking about this possibility before but wonder about leg 4 and I show that the one in Leg 4 is Phil :D

Oh yeah... right... I guess thats when I would've get stuck at the challenge if I was the one racing xD
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Candi Lee on November 15, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Whole pic here:

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag91/Aleij1963/CAPSTAR23/bb726fa6e1f511e2a38a22000aa805e3_7_zps5111c4d2.jpg) (http://s1300.photobucket.com/user/Aleij1963/media/CAPSTAR23/bb726fa6e1f511e2a38a22000aa805e3_7_zps5111c4d2.jpg.html)
The season finale of THE AMAZING RACE will be broadcast Sunday, Dec. 8 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT).  The final four Teams start in Tokyo where they’ll find themselves rolling through a human bowling competition and stripping down for a phone call at the bottom of a giant fish bowl. Ultimately, the final three Teams will sprint to the finish line in Alaska for the one million dollar prize. This season's edition is averaging 9.67 million viewers, 2.4/06 in adults 18-49 and 3.2/07 in adults 25-54.
     :p
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on November 15, 2013, 12:41:07 PM

 :funny:  well.... Tokyo seems to have a "giant fishbowl" (http://www.alafista.com/2012/08/21/todays-japan-photo-giant-fishbowl/)...   :colors    or maybe not...  :res:

Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on November 15, 2013, 12:51:08 PM
 :funny:  this view of Human Bowling (http://japanbah.flaneganb.net/2012/05/25/human-bowling/) in Japan doesn't seem to match the press release pictures... 

BUT... this game (http://elitedaily.com/featured/human-bowling-ball/) may have the racers "rolling through a human bowling competition"... or not
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 15, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
Why does it seem that Amy & Nicole are doing something together?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on November 15, 2013, 02:51:43 PM

 :funny:  yet another kind of Human Bowling in Japan on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5wc9Qeaf6g)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bookworm on November 16, 2013, 09:02:08 AM
We have our clue-giver  for Leg 11, the guy in the kimono near the teams.

What are they doing, anyway?
Whatever it is, I predict a F4 Intersection
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 16, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
Another Japanese Game show? :groan: Nothing can out-challenge Sushi Roulette! :) lol

I see more than two "machines" at that plaza/garden so an Intersection may not be possible. A noticeable piece is sticking out from the right edge of the pic.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 16, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
Why does it seem that Amy & Nicole are doing something together?

Maybe they are just helping each other out. The "machine" at the very top has a guy working on it. It has been raised up. I thought it was Jason at first, but now I think it is Tim. The girls might be too short or not strong enough and might be helping each other out.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on November 16, 2013, 11:09:49 AM

Given Japan's fascination with robots, they kinda look like one, particularly the one on the left which is standing up.  Not finding anything resembling them online yet.   :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 16, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
Why does it seem that Amy & Nicole are doing something together?

Maybe they are just helping each other out. The "machine" at the very top has a guy working on it. It has been raised up. I thought it was Jason at first, but now I think it is Tim. The girls might be too short or not strong enough and might be helping each other out.
The guy in the top left looks like Leo. Notice the resemblance of the sideburns?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 16, 2013, 11:44:26 AM

 :funny:  well.... Tokyo seems to have a "giant fishbowl" (http://www.alafista.com/2012/08/21/todays-japan-photo-giant-fishbowl/)...   :colors    or maybe not...  :res:
The giant "fishbowl" could be wordplay. When I think "fishbowl", I also think of an aquarium. In Tokyo, there is a Shinagawa Aquarium in the Shinagawa District. According to its English website, a 1F map diagram label states:

http://www.aquarium.gr.jp/en/innermap.html
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9. INVITATION TO THE GREAT OCEAN
    A huge tank containing 500 tons of water stands before you.As many as 1,500 fish of 80 species swim around gracefully in this enormous tank.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Slowhatch on November 16, 2013, 12:00:06 PM
It was already mentioned upstream, just nailing it down that it was Shinjuku central park (photo source (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/34274691))
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: SamualDude on November 16, 2013, 07:53:43 PM
So we possibly know who won't be winning. Sorry if is too much of a spoiler.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: stekay on November 17, 2013, 07:59:51 AM
Say what O_O
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Vitoko on November 17, 2013, 11:12:48 AM
I would expect something to happen at the finish line, even if Marie doesn't win I'm expecting everything to be about how after everything that was said she still couldn't win.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on November 17, 2013, 03:28:06 PM
So we possibly know who won't be winning. Sorry if is too much of a spoiler.

Could you please clarify what you meant by possibly knowing who won't be winning?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paldog123456 on November 17, 2013, 03:34:48 PM
So we possibly know who won't be winning. Sorry if is too much of a spoiler.

Could you please clarify what you meant by possibly knowing who won't be winning?

If you look at the TAR 24 spoilers, it will make more sense.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on November 17, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
So we possibly know who won't be winning. Sorry if is too much of a spoiler.

Could you please clarify what you meant by possibly knowing who won't be winning?

If you look at the TAR 24 spoilers, it will make more sense.

Just did.  And you're right -- I now know who probably didn't win.  I don't mind -- the team wasn't one of my favorites anyway.  Too bad they'll get a second chance -- unless I come to like them the second time around.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: scruffs on November 18, 2013, 01:45:46 AM
^ Who will not probably win? Hoping its Tim and Marie.  :res:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on November 18, 2013, 02:18:17 AM
Tim & Marie <3333333

But I doubt they win because of their edit :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 18, 2013, 03:49:06 AM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jetishidae on November 18, 2013, 08:18:31 AM
^
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how'd you know that the exes decline?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on November 18, 2013, 08:31:00 AM
Marie stated it on Twitter.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bookworm on November 18, 2013, 05:25:25 PM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.

I don't want (team stated in preview) to win!!!!!! :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on November 19, 2013, 10:46:49 AM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.

I REALLY wanted Team Exes to be on the all-stars!!!  I like them more and more every week!  Team Exes and team Jamy!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bookworm on November 19, 2013, 06:28:25 PM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.

I REALLY wanted Team Exes to be on the all-stars!!!  I like them more and more every week!  Team Exes and team Jamy!
Agree with you about the Exes, but I dislike Jamy
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on November 19, 2013, 07:51:52 PM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.

I REALLY wanted Team Exes to be on the all-stars!!!  I like them more and more every week!  Team Exes and team Jamy!
Agree with you about the Exes, but I dislike Jamy

Why do you dislike Jamy so much?  They seem to get along fine -- better than the Exes, that's for sure!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: scruffs on November 19, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
Hope Jamy wins!  :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 20, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Probably off topic but,

But the TAR20 and TAR23 Routes are very similar

Europe - Two Double Legs (with the first of each set being NEL's) then Japan and a finish in one of the non-48 contiguous states.

Oh and the first double legs occur in countries starting with United (Tanzania and UAE) and then IND (India and Indonesia)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 20, 2013, 04:23:33 PM
And the first two legs in the same country of South America - Argentina and Chile -.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 20, 2013, 04:25:35 PM
And the first two legs in the same country of South America - Argentina and Chile -.

That too lol, with the second leg finishing in the capital (after starting in another city) and the first leg in a new city.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Lemontail on November 21, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.

I REALLY wanted Team Exes to be on the all-stars!!!  I like them more and more every week!  Team Exes and team Jamy!
Agree with you about the Exes, but I dislike Jamy

Why do you dislike Jamy so much?  They seem to get along fine -- better than the Exes, that's for sure!

I don't care about Exes, but I like Jamy, Ice Crew Girls, and uh afghanimals... ;) Also the Doctors...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bookworm on November 23, 2013, 06:51:21 AM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.

I REALLY wanted Team Exes to be on the all-stars!!!  I like them more and more every week!  Team Exes and team Jamy!
Agree with you about the Exes, but I dislike Jamy

Why do you dislike Jamy so much?  They seem to get along fine -- better than the Exes, that's for sure!
I personally find Amy annoying and slightly obnoxious, and, as for Jason, I haven't liked him since I saw him. As for the Exes, they play the game well; they are mentally prepared. I really hope the Docs win!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on November 23, 2013, 10:29:06 AM
Here's a spec, spec may be heavy:
 :spoiler:
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F4 will include ER, Afghanimals, Jamy, Exes. Afghanimals are now racing in TAR24. Exes were invited back to TAR24 but Marie declined it. ER docs were eliminated in 4th? ??? Why can't I find it?

So my ultimate guess, after so many 2nd places, I think Jamy will win. :stare We'll see.

I REALLY wanted Team Exes to be on the all-stars!!!  I like them more and more every week!  Team Exes and team Jamy!
Agree with you about the Exes, but I dislike Jamy

Why do you dislike Jamy so much?  They seem to get along fine -- better than the Exes, that's for sure!
I personally find Amy annoying and slightly obnoxious, and, as for Jason, I haven't liked him since I saw him. As for the Exes, they play the game well; they are mentally prepared. I really hope the Docs win!

I don't find Jamy as annoying or obnoxious as you do and (most of the time) I find the Exes a lot more annoying and obnoxious than you do, but I guess we all have our favorites.  That said, I like the Doctors as well.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paradoxinee on November 24, 2013, 08:44:59 PM
Now I don't know what the final memory task is. Nobody who gave clues is  in this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bookworm on November 24, 2013, 08:48:40 PM
Now I don't know what the final memory task is. Nobody who gave clues is  in this leg.
The little boy?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 24, 2013, 09:24:46 PM
I hate to throw this out there, but i dont think we're getting a memory challenge in the finale this season. i make this assumption from no obvious hints and no set up for a memory challenge in the Juneau locations - i hope im wrong though because this has been a great season and would be awesome to round up with a memory task!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: paldog123456 on November 24, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
I hate to throw this out there, but i dont think we're getting a memory challenge in the finale this season. i make this assumption from no obvious hints and no set up for a memory challenge in the Juneau locations - i hope im wrong though because this has been a great season and would be awesome to round up with a memory task!

I was thinking the same thing, but then a different thought dawned upon me: how about a Switchback to the TAR12 final task/Roadblock. It is in Alaska, contains items with many patterns, and would be exciting to watch. (I am hoping it happens!)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Rachel Berry on November 24, 2013, 09:26:25 PM
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Guys I thought that Travis & Nicole were in the F3 how do we know that they came in 4th

Also is Leg 10 an NEL?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on November 24, 2013, 09:58:10 PM
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Guys I thought that Travis & Nicole were in the F3 how do we know that they came in 4th

Also is Leg 10 an NEL?

leg 10 is NEL for sure because we still have 4 teams and 2 legs remaining before the final leg
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 25, 2013, 07:08:36 AM
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Guys I thought that Travis & Nicole were in the F3 how do we know that they came in 4th


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All I know for sure (from the live sightings thread) is that Jamy and the Exes are in the F3. Some people mentioned that ER Docs finished in 4th from a thread (dunno which thread though :duno: ) .
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2013, 10:28:02 AM
My gut feeling is that one of Jason\Amy and Tim\Marie will win.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NMC on November 25, 2013, 10:31:40 AM
My gut feeling is that one of Jason\Amy and Tim\Marie will win.

Can't see Tim and Marie winning
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based on reports that they were asked back for Season 24, and as the Afghanimal's returned, I'm assuming, Jamy win  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2013, 10:32:13 AM
Are we sure that the Exes were invited again for TAR 24?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NMC on November 25, 2013, 10:34:04 AM
Are we sure that the Exes were invited again for TAR 24?

Not 100% sure, but apparently Marie stated it on Twitter and stated they declined the invite?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: couchracer on November 25, 2013, 04:59:20 PM
If Jamy makes the final leg and loses to the Docs, they will remember leg 9 not so fondly. Same thing of they get eliminated 4th.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: scruffs on November 25, 2013, 05:18:59 PM
Are we sure that the Exes were invited again for TAR 24?

Not 100% sure, but apparently Marie stated it on Twitter and stated they declined the invite?

Can the winners not be invited in the next all-star season?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: AmazingRace on November 26, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
Are we sure that the Exes were invited again for TAR 24?

Not 100% sure, but apparently Marie stated it on Twitter and stated they declined the invite?

Can the winners not be invited in the next all-star season?
[/quote

Yes, there has only been 1 winning team that has ever returned and that was Uchenna & Joyce.  The rest all lost at least once.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NMC on November 26, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
Are we sure that the Exes were invited again for TAR 24?

Not 100% sure, but apparently Marie stated it on Twitter and stated they declined the invite?

Can the winners not be invited in the next all-star season?
[/quote

Yes, there has only been 1 winning team that has ever returned and that was Uchenna & Joyce.  The rest all lost at least once.

As Scruff has already said, yea, winners can be called back
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BUT, because of CBS bringing back the Cowboys, Globetrotters and Margie & Luke, it kind of hints that season 24 will be another non-winner group of teams, which makes me think Tim and Marie don't win.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Platrium on November 27, 2013, 04:12:28 AM
If Jamy makes the final leg and loses to the Docs, they will remember leg 9 not so fondly. Same thing of they get eliminated 4th.

Yup. :stare
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on December 01, 2013, 09:05:09 PM
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Leo & Jamal get the F4 boot. Travis & Nicole would be All Star material , in my opinion , so i think they would win the race , with Jason & Amy in 2nd and Tim/Marie in 3rd.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on December 02, 2013, 10:47:45 AM
My thought :

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Leo & Jamal get the F4 boot. Travis & Nicole would be All Star material , in my opinion , so i think they would win the race , with Jason & Amy in 2nd and Tim/Marie in 3rd.

Well, I'd be a bit happier with Jason & Amy winning but Travis & Nicole winning would be okay.  Having Leo & Jamal come in fourth and Tim & Marie in third would make my day enough that I could accept Travis & Nicole beating Jason & Amy.  And besides, Jason & Amy finally won a leg!
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cattychic on December 02, 2013, 11:04:33 AM
Can anyone point me in the direction where the f3 spoilers are , I've searched and searched and can't find it . Thanks
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2013, 11:07:07 AM
Can anyone point me in the direction where the f3 spoilers are , I've searched and searched and can't find it . Thanks

All the relevant info is the spoilers and in the TimeLine. We don't do final 3 bootlists though...
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cattychic on December 02, 2013, 11:12:46 AM
Can anyone point me in the direction where the f3 spoilers are , I've searched and searched and can't find it . Thanks

All the relevant info is the spoilers and in the TimeLine. We don't do final 3 bootlists though...

I know u don't post the f3 bootlist , just could've sworn that I read earlier who the f3 was , now I can't find it and I'm second guessing myself.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on December 02, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Can anyone point me in the direction where the f3 spoilers are , I've searched and searched and can't find it . Thanks

All the relevant info is the spoilers and in the TimeLine. We don't do final 3 bootlists though...

I know u don't post the f3 bootlist , just could've sworn that I read earlier who the f3 was , now I can't find it and I'm second guessing myself.

Indications are that Jamy & Tim & Marie make the Final 3.  There was one suggestion that Leo & Jamal were the other Final 3 team but since they apparently are racing a second time, they might finish in fourth.  So I don't know whether Leo & Jamal or Travis & Nicole make the Final 3, just that Jamy & Tim & Marie apparently do so.  Does that help?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: cattychic on December 02, 2013, 12:59:35 PM
Yes that helps , I hope Leo/Jamal are the other team . Sick of Travis and Nicole getting all this help along the way.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: arubanna on December 02, 2013, 08:41:30 PM
My thought :

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Leo & Jamal get the F4 boot. Travis & Nicole would be All Star material , in my opinion , so i think they would win the race , with Jason & Amy in 2nd and Tim/Marie in 3rd.

Well, I'd be a bit happier with Jason & Amy winning but Travis & Nicole winning would be okay.  Having Leo & Jamal come in fourth and Tim & Marie in third would make my day enough that I could accept Travis & Nicole beating Jason & Amy.  And besides, Jason & Amy finally won a leg!

i am so with you.. my ideal final three are Jamy, Tracole, and Timarie.. assanimals please be fourth and it will make my day
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: sox15 on December 02, 2013, 09:56:36 PM
In the preview, it looked like the Bearded team was a bit over excited on who was crossing the finish line first.  If that's the case, it's NOT Tim/Marie or Leo/Jamal.  I remember reading the Bearded team's elimination interview and they talked about that incident about getting lost in Poland.  They tried unsuccessfully to get their taxi driver to talk to the other taxi driver, but Amy was overheard asking the driver to hang up.  If only they had identified themselves as Brandon/Adam, maybe Amy could help them out.  I'm not really sure about the relationship with Travis/Nicole however.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on December 03, 2013, 02:36:08 AM
My thought :

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Leo & Jamal get the F4 boot. Travis & Nicole would be All Star material , in my opinion , so i think they would win the race , with Jason & Amy in 2nd and Tim/Marie in 3rd.

I think right now it's quite blatant that Jamy win. They have a winner's MORP edit (booo), and the general fanbase detests Timmarie (they would have recieved a MUCH better edit if they were destined to win) and Tracole's edit has definitely slipped down into a negative, definitely not All-Stars worthy. The Afghans are the only other team to not get a bad edit other than Jamy, however Afghanimals are recieving more of a robbed boot edit (perfect for All-Stars) as opposed to a 'we won' edit, which is what believes me to think that Jamy will win.

In the preview, it looked like the Bearded team was a bit over excited on who was crossing the finish line first.  If that's the case, it's NOT Tim/Marie or Leo/Jamal.  I remember reading the Bearded team's elimination interview and they talked about that incident about getting lost in Poland.  They tried unsuccessfully to get their taxi driver to talk to the other taxi driver, but Amy was overheard asking the driver to hang up.  If only they had identified themselves as Brandon/Adam, maybe Amy could help them out.  I'm not really sure about the relationship with Travis/Nicole however.

Wouldn't they dislike Jamy then?
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bookworm on December 03, 2013, 05:08:19 PM
In the preview, it looked like the Bearded team was a bit over excited on who was crossing the finish line first.  If that's the case, it's NOT Tim/Marie or Leo/Jamal.  I remember reading the Bearded team's elimination interview and they talked about that incident about getting lost in Poland.  They tried unsuccessfully to get their taxi driver to talk to the other taxi driver, but Amy was overheard asking the driver to hang up.  If only they had identified themselves as Brandon/Adam, maybe Amy could help them out.  I'm not really sure about the relationship with Travis/Nicole however.
Brandon & Adam are so awesome, I'd think that they would be excited no matter who was first.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ranger1010 on December 03, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
My money is on the doctors
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 06, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
"and you better believe there is a memory challenge."

Source:http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Finale-Phil-Keoghan-1074368.aspx
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jetishidae on December 06, 2013, 05:42:43 PM
"and you better believe there is a memory challenge."

Source:http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Finale-Phil-Keoghan-1074368.aspx

i'm hoping it will be as interesting (if not more) as the memory task in season 12. it's my all time fave!  :cmas51
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on December 07, 2013, 08:33:10 AM
"and you better believe there is a memory challenge."

Source:http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Finale-Phil-Keoghan-1074368.aspx

i'm hoping it will be as interesting (if not more) as the memory task in season 12. it's my all time fave!  :cmas51

I loved that one, but I also loved the one in Season 17, mainly because Nat & Kat won that season!  Of course, the only downside is that that memory challenge didn't determine who won the Race -- Nat & Kat were way ahead by that point.
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: runningblind on December 07, 2013, 03:33:59 PM
"and you better believe there is a memory challenge."

Source:http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Finale-Phil-Keoghan-1074368.aspx

i'm hoping it will be as interesting (if not more) as the memory task in season 12. it's my all time fave!  :cmas51

I loved that one, but I also loved the one in Season 17, mainly because Nat & Kat won that season!  Of course, the only downside is that that memory challenge didn't determine who won the Race -- Nat & Kat were way ahead by that point.

The disappointing part was that it wasn't only memory challenge - using notes ruined that one for me
Title: Re: TAR 23 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: zythr on December 07, 2013, 07:25:28 PM
Jason and Amy will probably win, since they helped out another team(s). Good karma and all.