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Title: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Coming soon?

Spec only...NO WISHLISTS. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on April 19, 2013, 10:31:25 PM
I predict: South America, Latvia, long overdue-for-TAR visits to either India or China. Maybe Slovenia?

Hopefully a new Africa country too *coughGaboncough*

And MAYBE *hopes* Central America/Guyanas/Caribbean *laughs at prospect* :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on April 19, 2013, 10:41:33 PM
India/China one or both. I don't think two seasons in a row without either is possible. :lol:

A new country maybe?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on April 19, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
4 continents (Europe, Asia, Africa)

order:
Europe (Scandanavia, southern europe)
Africa (Morocco)
Asia (Sri Lanka, Mongolia)
North America (Central America/Carribean, USA)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ovalorange on April 19, 2013, 10:54:28 PM
Asia (Sri Lanka, Mongolia)

Well you can see these in someone's final DC design and then you better vote for them as the winner ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: IvarG on April 19, 2013, 10:55:45 PM
Ooh, fun fun. Let me try out a spec route:
Leg 1: Los Angeles, CA - Seoul, South Korea
Leg 2: Seoul, South Korea to Beijing, China
Leg 3: Beijing, China to Rural China
Leg 4: Rural China to Vientiane, Laos
Leg 5: Vientiane, Laos to Doha, Qatar
Leg 7: Doha, Qatar to Cape Town, South Africa
Leg 8: Cape Town, South Africa to Durban, South Africa
Leg 9: Durban, South Africa to Budapest, Hungary
Leg 10: Budapest, Hungary to Debrecen, Hungary
Leg 11: Debrecen, Hungary to Lisbon, Portugal
Leg 12: Lisbon, Portugal to Saint Louis, MO
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on April 19, 2013, 10:56:32 PM
4 continents (Europe, Asia, Africa)

order:
Europe (Scandanavia, southern europe)
Africa (Morocco)
Asia (Sri Lanka, Mongolia)
North America (Central America/Carribean, USA)

I disagree with Scandinavia. It's only been 4 seasons since it was last visited, unless they remember that Iceland and Finland exist <3

And Morocco still has a few problems ATM. :/

Asia (Sri Lanka, Mongolia)

Well you can see these in someone's final DC design and then you better vote for them as the winner ;)

Oval <3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2013, 11:03:19 PM
Please read the first post. This is NOT a wishlist thread or for your dream routes. It is for legitimate (ie possible/probable) spec on cast/routes/start cities/tasks.

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on April 19, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
Additionally, I predict a Europe first leg, flying to maybe Portugal? Davad style. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: MrDeerShank on April 20, 2013, 07:13:59 AM
Please read the first post. This is NOT a wishlist thread or for your dream routes. It is for legitimate (ie possible/probable) spec on cast/routes/start cities/tasks.

Los Angeles :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Theo on April 20, 2013, 07:17:27 AM
I think there will be a lot of parent/child teams for this season 23. 3-4 teams maybe? The last season we have 3 parent/child team is season 18. Doesn't TAR want to have parent/child winner?

The route is eastward, I'm quite sure. I think they'll try something new, like putting South American legs on last.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on April 20, 2013, 07:58:05 AM
Please read the first post. This is NOT a wishlist thread or for your dream routes. It is for legitimate (ie possible/probable) spec on cast/routes/start cities/tasks.

Los Angeles :lol:

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:lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 20, 2013, 08:23:39 AM
I predict that a team is gonna be from Survivor or other reality shows. I just have a hunch.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on April 20, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
we need an east coast starting line we have not had one in a long long long long time guys hahahaha :D

BALTIMORE  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on April 20, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
I think they'll try something new, like putting South American legs on last.

TAR 18???

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: amazing1604 on April 20, 2013, 07:47:14 PM
Indonesia again?  :lol3:

They seem really like Indonesia lately. Even though i'm an Indonesian, i think Indonesia should have a break lol
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on April 20, 2013, 07:54:34 PM
I think Indonesia is a lovely place, but it's becoming really overused.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2013, 08:20:26 PM
Remember this??

Will this help? hmmm

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Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on April 20, 2013, 08:47:18 PM
I still think TAR is going to make it to Burma/Myanmar sooner rather than later, given (1) the U.S. has had an official visit by then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in December and (2) the first episode of the new Anthony Bourdain CNN series "Parts Unknown" was filmed in Myanmar without any minders or government interference and (3) the US, the EU and others are lifting economic sanctions or already have. And it would be a change from China, India, Thailand and Indonesia so all four of those countries can take a TAR rest.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2013, 08:55:48 PM
That one is on MY dream list!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Harry4 on April 20, 2013, 08:58:32 PM
 :ghug: Australia better be in this Season, we don't need another 5 legs in Indonesia...........
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: SamualDude on April 20, 2013, 09:06:04 PM
Even though it was just in this Season I'd like the race to return to the south island of New Zealand. One leg in Otago near Dunedin and one leg in South Cantebury in the Timaru area. Head to peel forest and do some white water rafting or kayaking.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Theo on April 20, 2013, 09:11:55 PM
I was wondering does anyone here complain when we got India-combo from season 12-14? :lol: Or China-combo? Why not Indonesia-combo lol? :hides But I believe Indonesia should rest.

Does Philippines still have travel warnings? :( I don't know if it will affect the production team or not.


Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on April 20, 2013, 09:42:23 PM
Biased since i just went there:

They should go to Tamahu, Guatemala, and also visit nearby cities Tactic and Coban.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Felix on April 20, 2013, 10:13:00 PM
The only continent they haven't visited in the last 2 seasons is South America. It was been 4 seasons of their last visit in Brazil,the normal period of seasons between the visits...I think we'll have 2 legs in South America,one in a Brazilian City that is hosting the World Cup and the other probably in Uruguay.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Zack. on April 21, 2013, 02:28:24 AM
I don't think we'll get into South America this season - they generally like filming their summer seasons in the Northern Hemisphere unless there's some sort of convenient infrastructure and/or a financial or Emmy-related benefit to filming down there coughMalawicough. That being said, I think we'll see Central America, be it through legs on the continent such as Costa Rica or Guatemala (red bean Switchback, Mayan temple running, take your pic) or else the Caribbean.

Regarding Asia, I think the cancelled Laos leg might be appropriated for this season. I've learned to always assume China will be visited in some capacity, but I think they'll also visit Sri Lanka given the number of foreign seasons that have recently visited it, as well as maybe Japan again. (I'd say Philippines in the winter so they can abuse the warm weather). Probably nothing in the Middle East either.

Concerning Africa, I think a leg or two in Morocco or, if they're feeling particularly generous, a leg or two in West Africa. Of the countries not previously visited, Sierra Leone is probably the best mix of safe, interesting, and reasonable with regard to infrastructure, though I wouldn't rule out a trip to Senegal or Ethiopia.

Onto Europe! The past two seasons have tapped out basically all of Western Europe safe Portugal and Ireland so I think we're due for some Eastern Europe. I think they might have planned for legs in the Balkans, but even if not, the region has been relatively untouched by TAR. I'd imagine a leg or two in Serbia and/or Montenegro would not be out of the question. They could easily re-visit other one shot countries like Hungary or Romania or Poland for multiple legs. Perhaps one extra leg in a transport hub (Vienna, Rome, maybe even Madrid to facilitate travel to or from North America.

US! I wonder where the start line will be!  :res: As far as finishes go, we've had two East Coast finales in a row so I'd imagine we're either going to get a finale in the middle three-fourths of the country or (more likely) a west coast final. Texas has only been used once, much like Chicago but I'm thinking for some strange reason the final will be in Seattle. *shrugs*

Projected route:

Leg 1: LA to China
Leg 2: China to Laos
Leg 3: Laos
Leg 4: Laos to Sri Lanka
Leg 5: Sri Lanka to Hungary
Leg 6: Hungary to Serbia
Leg 7: Serbia to Montenegro
Leg 8: Montenegro to Morocco
Leg 9: Morocco
Leg 10: Morocco to Spain
Leg 11: Spain to Puerto Rico
Leg 12: Puerto Rico to Seattle

I'm excited to see how wrong I'll be  :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on April 21, 2013, 02:39:08 AM
Puerto Rico and Sri Lanka <3 Hungary <3

I don't think they would do both Serbia and Montenegro in one season though. :P
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Kamineko on April 21, 2013, 04:01:49 AM
Well, since TAR1, we haven't seen any 1st leg in Africa, so I really hope that they're doing that in season 23. :lol:

In Africa, I think either a leg in Morocco OR leg(s) in South Africa, since TAR recently has interest in safari-themed leg (Kruger National Park, anyone?).

About Europe, I think that the Western Europe is way overused in recent seasons. So, I think they'll go either north (Finland/Norway), south (Greece/Malta), or east (Latvia/Ukraine/Romania).

For Asia, I agree that Indonesia is way overused, although I hope that they visit Indonesia NOT in early legs, but in the late legs (final 5/4 in Indonesia will be awesome :hrt:). I think that they'll visit Laos to redeem the cancelled leg in TAR19, and I think they'll stay for 2 legs on there. Brunei, Singapore, and Malaysia are also have a chance to be visited, since Singapore and Malaysia haven't been visited since TAR16 and Brunei is kinda forgotten by the production team... For eastern Asia, I predict South Korea due to recent booming of Korean culture in US (Gangnam Style task, anyone? :lol:); but I think that they'll skip it because of North Korea problem. :groan:

Australia is also need to be visited, but not in Sydney! They should go in Tasmania or the Western Australia! :hrt:

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on April 21, 2013, 04:09:23 AM
Not mentioning Melbourne. Shame. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on April 21, 2013, 04:11:59 AM
We can easily rule out much of the Middle East, India is unsafe because of the recent rapes of woman. I think we can rule out Korea at least for Season 23 because of the North Korea problem. Laos seems a little remote, but that has never stopped TAR.

I think we will see a lot of South America, Europe and maybe Africa...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Smugleaf on April 21, 2013, 08:45:27 AM
India/China one or both. I don't think two seasons in a row without either is possible. :lol:

A new country maybe?

The first leg of TAR 21 was set in Shanghai, China, right? :0

As for potential locations, a revisit to Perú is long overdue, so I'd put my money on at least one leg there (Lima, Cusco, Puno and Machu Picchu are all viable locations). Ecuador and Greece are also possible countries.

We can expect 2-3 new countries as well. Uganda, the 'stans, Laos, Brunei, Monaco and Latvia would all make nice legs. TAR has to visit Antarctica sooner or later, too.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Stylemikro on April 21, 2013, 09:27:50 AM
Hum, I hope they come to my country, Portugal :D, We caused a lot of trouble to some teams back in season 3 (one of them with a penalty gets eliminated after getting a 1st place in the pit stop and half of the teams in the next leg did not realize the fuel the vehicle needs and put the incorrect one xD) And we deserved a better leg, we have a lot to show too :)

Also I believe in this season there will be no Africa, instead they will go again to India and/or China. Also I would like some initial legs in South America, would say Argentina, Perú or Venezuela. Then we will have the usual legs in Europe, I would say they will go again to Bavaria in Germany, and maybe some eastern europe countries.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on April 21, 2013, 09:40:05 AM
I hope no Bavaria included, since we already have some Germany this season.

A nice Portugal-North of Spain driving would be really awesome. Quite a lot of interesting scenarios there to see.

I would love to see some of this landscape along with some big urban cities. I also hope there is no Africa since I prefer to miss Africa for a couple of seasons before enjoying it. I also hope there is MORE self-drive.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Daniel on April 21, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
I agree with most of the speculations here...
I predict it will be a West to East route with at least two South America legs.
And I think they'll visit India, it's been two seasons!
Also no more Indonesia hopefully, it's so overused, there's a lot Asian countries TAR haven't visited.
I also predict a Middle East leg and I think for Europe legs they'll visit places like Spain, Portugal...

I'd also love to see more self-driving legs!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on April 21, 2013, 11:21:04 AM
This season must be a west to east route season. If it is not,  :killme:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Kamineko on April 21, 2013, 11:41:30 AM
This season must be a west to east route season. If it is not,  :killme:
Nooooo.....!!! Don't hang yourself just because TAR's not going west to east. :lol3:

Anyway, because TAR already went from east to west in previous season. I think this time they'll go the reverse route.

BUT, don't forget that in TAR 7, they reversed the route (North America > South America > Africa > Asia > Europe > Central America > North America). It's also a possibility. ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
I think we are due a NON-LA start. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on April 21, 2013, 01:17:21 PM
I'm thinking TAR might do a reverse Season 13 route. We're due for a west to east Season and South America and I don't think they will do a similar route as S20.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: briangwen7 on April 21, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Yes!!! Puerto Rico My Island! :P
 :wohoo:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on April 21, 2013, 06:05:35 PM
This thread is speculation or guesses, briangwen7, that is not necessarily true.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on April 21, 2013, 06:32:15 PM
???
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: jostor on April 22, 2013, 10:06:52 AM
Lately almost all seasons have started in LA, whether that means it's time for a change or it's more likely to be there is anyone's guess.

China and India have gotten quite little attention lately, and even though neither of them (particular India) are among my favourite destinations, almost 1/3 of the world's population live in those two countries, so it's hard to ignore them, so a leg or two there is likely. (even though I hope not!)
A lot of recent series have also travelled westward around the world (as opposed to the earlier series when the race most of the times went east), so it's about time for some eastwards travelling! Of the last 5 series only TAR20 went east first. In fact have a list:

Went eastwards:
TAR 1
TAR 2
TAR 3
TAR 4
TAR 5
TAR 6
TAR 7 (didn't actually circumnavigate the earth, but started out going east)
TAR 9 (TAR 8 was the family edition, not listed)
TAR 11
TAR 12
TAR 14
TAR 16
TAR 17
TAR 20

Went westwards:
TAR 10
TAR 13
TAR 15
TAR 18
TAR 19
TAR 21
TAR 22


So as we see in the early seasons pretty much all races went east, the first one to start out west was season 10, but lately it's been a lot going west, so going east would be about time.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: apskip on April 23, 2013, 06:15:16 AM
I think we are due a NON-LA start. :lol:
Amen, let's hope for that. How about Atlanta?
Philadelphia (although that would make a better finishing place)?
Charlotte?
Detroit?
Orlando?
Houston?
St. Louis?
Minneapolis?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: tarflyonthewall on April 24, 2013, 12:00:33 AM
I'm usually pretty good at reading the producers' minds -  a few seasons back I got every country right.

Central America as the penultimate leg I feel is more likely South America, unless they're going to skip Brazil and Argentina for the first time. Much as I'd love to see the Caribbean islands (especially the Dominican Republic) or Mexico I think they're both unlikely - Costa Rica is the best bet in this region.

Since season 17, we've done Norway, Sweden, Austria, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Denmark, Belgium, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands, Spain, France, and the UK (with Germany hit three times and the Netherlands twice). That's every western European country except Iceland, Ireland, Portugal, Andorra, and Luxembourg. In the same time period, the only eastern European country visited is Russia (twice). If we go to Europe I'd put it at about 95% likely it's the eastern half, and probably somewhere in the former Yugoslavia given all of the regional franchises COMBINED have only spent two legs there (TAR12 in Dubrovnik, and the HMLM2 leg covering both Sarajevo and Dubrovnik). Or Greece, if they can get in and out safely - though with Golden Dawn's political influence, that's unlikely if there are going to be minority teams.

Africa? Most likely Morocco if anywhere - easy connections to Europe (especially to Portugal), a safe country, not the same landscape as the Africa seen in the last three visits (Malawi, Tanzania, Botswana) - although Angola is an outside chance, and I'd love another leg in South Africa if they can do it. The Arab Spring countries are probably still out at least until TAR24, and the remaining countries are either too similar to what we've seen recently (Gabon) or not safe (Kenya). It's definitely time for a "big city" leg in Africa again, and preferably one where "poverty LOL" isn't the focus. Maybe Ethiopia?

Unless the show is given a midseason "another show isn't rating" renewal we've only got one season this time around, so India is probably the safest bet you can make, but aside from that Asia is tougher. Middle East is still out (Jordan is the most plausible option, and it has borders with Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Palestine, and Syria, which should tell you all you need to know), Japan and Korea are probably on the blacklist until Kim Jong-Un calms down, Indonesia needs a break, and we had Hanoi this season. At a guess I'd say Malaysia or the Philippines. If they're going to insist on pointing out the lack of originality in recent seasons by having another Switchback, then the Philippines is DEFINITELY the better option.

No to New Zealand and the rest of the South Pacific islands, and Australia is an outside chance at best. If they do, it'll be somewhere that isn't beachside or "outback", and the only real options that are race-friendly are Victoria and Tasmania (and Adelaide, but pfft).

So in summary, my guess:

United States
Portugal
Morocco
Serbia
Russia
India
Australia
Philippines
Costa Rica
United States

That's nine countries, with one new - roughly the same as this season. If I had to guess, I'd say the extra three legs come from double legs in Morocco (because the show hasn't had a single leg in any African country for twelve seasons), Australia, and the Philippines.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ovalorange on April 24, 2013, 05:52:26 AM
I'm usually pretty good at reading the producers' minds -  a few seasons back I got every country right.

Seriously? Link me to said post please :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on April 24, 2013, 06:06:57 AM
United States
Portugal
Morocco
Serbia
Russia
India
Australia
Philippines
Costa Rica
United States

That's nine countries, with one new - roughly the same as this season. If I had to guess, I'd say the extra three legs come from double legs in Morocco (because the show hasn't had a single leg in any African country for twelve seasons), Australia, and the Philippines.

Unless you plan on all your female-female teams being eliminated early or you want to get sued should the unthinkable happen, I don't think India is a good idea. 
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: hotriceguy on April 24, 2013, 07:34:41 PM
Starting Point: San Fran (for WC) or Baltimore (for EC)
Wish list:
Azores or Cape Verde
Balkans countries (esp. Slovenia)
Himalayan countries or regions (Nepal/Bhutan/Tibet)
Caribbean
Oceania countries (excluding Australia)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 25, 2013, 09:32:39 AM
Starting Point: i feel like they use states on some kind of coastline a lot... so i figure we will get a somewhat southern start but a city thats not on the coast.. maybe Nashville, TN... then heading to costa rica to go from hot to hot (since they are probably filming in the summer.. then maybe an extremley cold europe leg.. o i dont know poland or austria? take a quick dip into africa (angola would be a nice probable leg) then go back up into cold europe kind of like how S13 did hot-cold-hot-cold.. I do feel like they will use the Laos leg somewhere.. also maybe some islands as well...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2013, 09:41:51 AM
Well, the unused Belize and Tanzania legs NEVER resurfaced, nothing to say we will ever see the Laos leg either way.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ruadhan on April 25, 2013, 10:02:31 AM
Starting Point: i feel like they use states on some kind of coastline a lot... so i figure we will get a somewhat southern start but a city thats not on the coast.. maybe Nashville, TN... then heading to costa rica to go from hot to hot (since they are probably filming in the summer.. then maybe an extremley cold europe leg.. o i dont know poland or austria? take a quick dip into africa (angola would be a nice probable leg) then go back up into cold europe kind of like how S13 did hot-cold-hot-cold.. I do feel like they will use the Laos leg somewhere.. also maybe some islands as well...


lol europe isnt cold in the summer. Poland and austria would be quite warm, maybe not africa hot but warm
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2013, 10:14:44 AM
Summer filming often has gone SOUTH (of the equator) so as to get to cooler weather.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jobby on April 25, 2013, 10:16:56 AM
Malaysia fans, watch out. #gutfeeling
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 25, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
Summer filming often has gone SOUTH (of the equator) so as to get to cooler weather.
ik that had a huge brain fart...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 25, 2013, 12:04:22 PM
Canada (anywhere) has been noticeably absent from TAR US for many seasons.
I'm thinking at least a partial leg - either part of leg 1 or the penultimate leg.

Why?
- they haven't been to Canada in a long time
- TAR Canada is being filmed very soon, probably before S23. WRP and Insight Productions are collaborating on TAR CA, which means WRP has a production partner in Canada that could facilitate the planning and sharing of production resources.

I'm speculating - start line in Detroit - departure southwards from Toronto...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on April 25, 2013, 09:53:36 PM
The second all stars season maybe ???
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on April 28, 2013, 01:35:41 PM
I think that we will see either Chicago, San Francisco, New York or Boston as a startcity this season. And at least 3 major big cities in Europe.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: tarflyonthewall on April 28, 2013, 09:44:22 PM
I'm usually pretty good at reading the producers' minds -  a few seasons back I got every country right.

Seriously? Link me to said post please :lol:

Not quite every country - can I use "it was two years ago" as an excuse? - but I did mention Indonesia, Thailand, Malawi, Denmark, and Belgium by name, as well as correctly predict skipping China/India AND getting a North American country for the first time in eleven seasons (as well as call Argentina and Paraguay as the next two South American countries to be visited) in the TAR19 pre-race prediction thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25436.msg614109.html#msg614109).
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leilani on May 02, 2013, 09:04:36 AM
I think that we will see either Chicago, San Francisco, New York or Boston as a startcity this season. And at least 3 major big cities in Europe

I don't see Boston being a good start city unless they do it in one of the suburbs and then travel to Logan.  I'd love to have the race come here and self driving would be hilarious.  I know they don't use gps when they drive, but I have yet to find a gps that can figure out how to navigate the city so a self-driving leg through the city would be interesting.  Although they'd probably have to rely on taxis or the T for transportation which could also be quite interesting.  I'd rather see it as a final leg with the finish being some place that most people don't think about when they hear Boston.  With the exception of the time I was on the Esplanade and saw a bunch of little Amazing Race flags (must have been a local thing) I never thought about the race doing a leg in the city so I'd have to look to see which locations would offer a enough privacy to keep the end a secret.  I could come up with a huge wishlist of tasks for a leg in and around Boston.

There's a lot of country between the coasts, at some point one would think that the producers would have a leg or two in the US.  I know family edition did, but..................
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Dånooky on May 02, 2013, 10:15:23 AM
We had too much water/island this season, so I think there will be no exotic islands in S23.

I think we will see the race return to either China or Latin America in the first leg, but both will probably be visited at one point.

I also speculate there will be an obvious (to the audience) memory challenge in the finale.

My gut feeling tells me there will only be one or two M/M teams, in case Bates & Anthony win this season, and the majority of the cast will be M/F.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on May 02, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
Starting dates:

The Amazing Race 15: July 18.
The Amazing Race 17: May 26.
The Amazing Race 19: June 18.
The Amazing Race 21: May 26.
The Amazing Race 23: I predic late May early June.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 02, 2013, 05:16:21 PM
Starting dates:

The Amazing Race 15: July 18.
The Amazing Race 17: May 26.
The Amazing Race 19: June 18.
The Amazing Race 21: May 26.
The Amazing Race 23: I predic late May early June.

Judging that pattern, wouldn't it be May 18?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2013, 08:47:50 PM
Phil comments on TAR23...and US!! :hearts:
 
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What's the latest on Season 23?
Keoghan: Can you believe it's been 23 seasons? We continue to get teams we could've never dreamed up. There are certain teams you don't even know are out there until you see the combination. Expect some different, new casting announcements. I've started writing the scripts for next season and the challenges are great. ... We will have new places [and we'll start shooting] in the summer. We don't tell people specific dates because they find us anyway. That's one of the things that's changed dramatically since Season 1 with social media.

There are literally fans from around the world who come together and live-tweet and collect sightings of you and the teams. Does that bother you guys? Or do you like that it's almost interactive now? Twitter did help Kaylani get her passport back.
Keoghan: Exactly. There are live updates all the time. Personally, I think it's exciting. What's weird was when we were going one way in an airport and The Amazing Race Asia team was going the other way, but neither of us had any idea that the other would be there. I think anyone who was trying to keep track would've been extremely confused. One of the other franchises was shooting in Christchurch [New Zealand] and my friend emailed me and said, "I can't believe you came to Christchurch and didn't even give me a call." I was like, "What are you talking about?" He manages the Christchurch airport and he said, "I saw the crew and the racers running around the airport." I was like, "Sorry, dude, that wasn't me." But Twitter and social media have added a whole new element for fans. Fans love being in the know. I think overall, our fans are pretty good. They don't give away too much. Sometimes people love dropping spoilers, but our fans are good. They tend to do it in such a way that doesn't ruin it for fans who don't want to know.

Sometimes they withhold major spoilers until after the season's over.
Keoghan: And we love that because I think they think they're part of something bigger. They don't feel like they have to spoil everything. Little teases here and there to whet the appetite are enough.



http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Finale-Phil-Keoghan-1064929.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Finale-Phil-Keoghan-1064929.aspx)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: amazing1604 on May 04, 2013, 03:35:29 AM
Malaysia fans, watch out. #gutfeeling

I think it's likely going to be The Philippines #justsaying
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on May 04, 2013, 05:59:55 AM
100% speculation: the race will start and end in the United States.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 04, 2013, 06:03:08 AM
100% speculation: the race will start and end in the United States.

Wrong, clearly. It's going to start in North Korea and end in Iran. Gosh what is wrong with you people?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Xarles on May 05, 2013, 09:19:21 PM
I'll speculate that WRP has a discriminating view for Mexico and Canada.
Mexico makes it to the top 15 of all the following lists while Canada almost does:
TOP 15 Richest Countries by National GDP, 15 Largest, 15 Most populated, 15 oldest and largest democracies in the world. ...and all but Mexico and Canada have been recently visited.
Even President Barack Obama has been in Mexico City, Guadalajara and Cabo San Lucas 4 times and has sent his daughters on vacation to Oaxaca State during his presidency which is much shorter than the time TAR has been running!
Bertram: ¡Estamos esperando! We are waiting!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Dånooky on May 05, 2013, 09:24:29 PM
I'll speculate that WRP has a discriminating view for Mexico and Canada.
Mexico makes it to the top 15 of all the following lists while Canada almost does:
TOP 15 Richest Countries by National GDP, 15 Largest, 15 Most populated, 15 oldest and largest democracies in the world. ...and all but Mexico and Canada have been recently visited.
Even President Barack Obama has been in Mexico City, Guadalajara and Cabo San Lucas 4 times and has sent his daughters on vacation to Oaxaca State during his presidency which is much shorter than the time TAR has been running!
Bertram: ¡Estamos esperando! We are waiting!
Give it a year or two while the whole political shift calms down, I'm forecasting Mx for the next All-Stars
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Xarles on May 05, 2013, 09:29:20 PM
Give it a year or two while the whole political shift calms down, I'm forecasting Mx for the next All-Stars

Political "shift"? Calms down? A year or two? I have no idea what are you referring to but I promise not to make any fun of your lack of knowledge.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Dånooky on May 05, 2013, 09:34:55 PM
Give it a year or two while the whole political shift calms down, I'm forecasting Mx for the next All-Stars

Political "shift"? Calms down? A year or two? I have no idea what are you referring to but I promise not to make any fun of your lack of knowledge.
Dude, our ruling party just changed, which may have a positive effect in safety issues the country has had, which has kept Mexico in the US Travel Warning list, but it will take time. Also, I'm Mexican.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 05, 2013, 10:23:06 PM
I'll speculate that WRP has a discriminating view for Mexico and Canada.
Mexico makes it to the top 15 of all the following lists while Canada almost does:
TOP 15 Richest Countries by National GDP, 15 Largest, 15 Most populated, 15 oldest and largest democracies in the world. ...and all but Mexico and Canada have been recently visited.
Even President Barack Obama has been in Mexico City, Guadalajara and Cabo San Lucas 4 times and has sent his daughters on vacation to Oaxaca State during his presidency which is much shorter than the time TAR has been running!
Bertram: ¡Estamos esperando! We are waiting!

Xarles, I hope TAR23 won't go to Canada. Unless the country currently filming the Canadian version. Mexico has issued a travel warning to American tourists. Such as U.S.-Mexico border areas and throughout Mexico including carjacking, drug trafficking and kidnapping. Unless, TAR23 won't visit the country either. Sorry U.S. borders.

I hope TAR23 will visit my country, which is the Philippines. And it hasn't been visited since TAR5, the highly success of last year's airing of the local version of the race and wanted to visit the country there. The reason there's a furious rain storms by the months of June to August, the race couldn't visit wet areas.

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 05, 2013, 10:33:29 PM
I'll speculate that WRP has a discriminating view for Mexico and Canada.
Mexico makes it to the top 15 of all the following lists while Canada almost does:
TOP 15 Richest Countries by National GDP, 15 Largest, 15 Most populated, 15 oldest and largest democracies in the world. ...and all but Mexico and Canada have been recently visited.
Even President Barack Obama has been in Mexico City, Guadalajara and Cabo San Lucas 4 times and has sent his daughters on vacation to Oaxaca State during his presidency which is much shorter than the time TAR has been running!
Bertram: ¡Estamos esperando! We are waiting!

But Mexico is unsafe. I personally would not feel safe going there.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: MrDeerShank on May 06, 2013, 03:09:08 AM
A lot of editions of the race have been filming in places like Sri Lanka and The Philippines so I can't see them ruling them out straight away...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 06, 2013, 03:13:28 AM
A lot of editions of the race have been filming in places like Sri Lanka and The Philippines so I can't see them ruling them out straight away...

I hope for a Philippine leg since there hasn't been any since TAR 5. :D
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ZBC Company on May 06, 2013, 07:55:21 AM
guys we all now it is going start in LA
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: themikko95 on May 06, 2013, 08:10:37 AM
I think we'll see India again.  :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 06, 2013, 09:04:26 AM
guys we all now it is going start in LA

What about an East Coast start line?
Speculations:
Philadelphia (Philly)?
New York City?
Miami?
Charlotte?
Chicago?
Houston?
Atlanta?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Loken on May 06, 2013, 09:11:58 AM
Visit a new country! Nepal! and also go visit Hong Kong.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: amazing1604 on May 06, 2013, 09:43:14 AM
I think we'll see India again.  :)

I think it's gonna be the highland, such as Darjeeling, or even more bustling city that hasn't been visited yet, such as Bangalore  ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on May 06, 2013, 10:02:57 AM
I think we'll see India again.  :)

I think it's gonna be the highland, such as Darjeeling, or even more bustling city that hasn't been visited yet, such as Bangalore  ;)
Also Udaipur and Goa could be great Places to go!!!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Belle Book on May 06, 2013, 11:12:17 AM
Recent rapes of Indian women make me think it'll be unlikely that TAR will visit India.

I'd like TAR to visit Mexico, but considering the safety issues I doubt they'll go there.

Since we've seen a lot of Western Europe, I think we'll see more of Eastern Europe this time (and not just Russia)!

Korea is out.  Japan is probably out as well thanks to North Korea's provocations.  If TAR goes to China, it'll be southern China.  Northern China is too close to Korea -- especially northeastern China!

We might see some of Latin America.  Costa Rica, maybe.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: BuuYaa on May 06, 2013, 11:29:52 AM
A lot of editions of the race have been filming in places like Sri Lanka and The Philippines so I can't see them ruling them out straight away...

I hope for a Philippine leg since there hasn't been any since TAR 5. :D

OMG YES !!!!

although even I live in it, I was kind a done now with South East Asia...
maybe season 25 ...

but I'd love to see TAR to visit The Phillipines either way...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Prophet on May 06, 2013, 11:55:05 AM
I think we'll see India again.  :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: couchracer on May 06, 2013, 12:30:13 PM
How about a Galveston, Tx start, Right by Houston? Recent hurricane and recovery.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: apskip on May 06, 2013, 02:58:19 PM
I think we are due a NON-LA start. :lol:
Amen, let's hope for that. How about Atlanta?
Philadelphia (although that would make a better finishing place)?
Charlotte?
Detroit?
Orlando?
Houston?
St. Louis?
Minneapolis?

This is what I think and Peach thinks. It is quite similar to what Claude has proposed for the start city and diametrically opposed to ZBC stating "We all know that it's going to be L.A."  We don't all know that and one of these races World Race Productions is not going to take the easy way out and give us a more interesting start instead of just a drive to LAX.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: MrDeerShank on May 06, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
First leg in Africa please, Morocco <3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Belle Book on May 06, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
I think we are due a NON-LA start. :lol:
Amen, let's hope for that. How about Atlanta?
Philadelphia (although that would make a better finishing place)?
Charlotte?
Detroit?
Orlando?
Houston?
St. Louis?
Minneapolis?

This is what I think and Peach thinks. It is quite similar to what Claude has proposed for the start city and diametrically opposed to ZBC stating "We all know that it's going to be L.A."  We don't all know that and one of these races World Race Productions is not going to take the easy way out and give us a more interesting start instead of just a drive to LAX.

I'd love for TAR to begin or end (preferably end) in Philly.  Until last year, I lived about an hour north-northwest of there and it would be great seeing some highlights of Philly!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 07, 2013, 02:29:26 AM
Can't wait. WRP, bring it on! :D
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: TARFANINDONESIA on May 07, 2013, 08:21:25 AM
going to south america -> Africa -> europe -> asia
having philippines or china as the last leg.
not starting in los angeles
visiting scandinavian country ( preferably sweden of finland )
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 07, 2013, 01:44:17 PM
Y'all, this is not a wishlist thread. Educated spec on routes is fine, posting a bunch of wishlists here is not. Let's try to be aware of the difference, okay??
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Smugleaf on May 08, 2013, 06:08:21 AM
The Amazing Race: Family Edition 2, anyone?  :lol3:

TAR 8 wasn't that bad, imho.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 08, 2013, 07:29:37 AM
We're obviously gonna see Korea.

With the K-Pop madness in America now....
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Caelestor on May 08, 2013, 08:23:11 AM
I'll begin my analysis with likely ideas:

South America: Typically, S. America is visited every other cycle, but TAR 22 broke the cycle because it headed to Oceania first. Since I expect TAR 23 to head eastward, it logically makes sense for TAR to head south first before heading to Europe/Africa. Three legs minimum because of the gap since TAR 20, with one country being a double leg. Peru is a good candidate for a first destination/double leg, and because Argentina was featured during the last visit to S. America, it's probably Brazil or Chile's turn.

Europe: Western Europe has been extensively featured in the past few cycles, so I'm hoping for (and expecting) Eastern Europe, namely the area around the Balkans. Hungary and Bulgaria are definite possibilities as well. Due to the numerous European legs last year, I'm only expecting two legs; I think Africa will be visited before Europe though.

Africa: In accordance with TAR's recent patterns, I'm expecting Africa to be visited in TAR 23 and skipped in TAR 24. There will be two legs in one country as usual; I actually think that Johannesburg, South Africa would be a fairly good choice to be revisited, given the relative ease of the hop from Brazil. I don't know where the second leg in S. Africa would be. Dark horse candidates include Ethiopia and Rwanda; if so, Europe comes first and the overall route becomes quite similar to TAR 20.

Asia: This is by far the murkiest area to predict because there's a lot of available areas to explore. Here are just some of the possibilities for the three or four Asian legs: India (maybe unlikely due to the rapes, but definitely two legs if visited), Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Laos, Philippines, Nepal, and China.

Oceania: No visit because New Zealand and French Polynesia were just visited.

North America: Likely no visit to Central America or the Caribbean, unfortunately, unless Africa or South America is removed (which I don't want to see happen). We're looking at a final city in the Midwest or the West Coast. Thus, I lean towards Seattle or Chicago.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 08, 2013, 12:15:26 PM
I definitely do not hope Africa is revisited after this season's visit. It is expensive to go to all the continents, so I do not think South America and Africa will come together anytime soon. Europe will also get at least 3 legs, as travelling through there is safer and in most cases cheaper (in terms of long distance trips).
Asia is always hard to predict. I hope somewhere next to Israel and such countries is visited. Would also expect somewhere southeast, skipping Vietnam and Indonesia, which are becoming the same of every season. I would love a Philippines and Sngapore, IMHO. I also pray for 2 legs in a row in North America to serve for the last two legs of this race.

Not much worldwide events in 2013 that may bring visits to a EuroCup or Olympics themed leg, IDK.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 08, 2013, 01:40:33 PM
Maybe this time we can get an Europe start. It's been a while since last time.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2013, 04:27:11 PM
They have NEVER started in Europe, right??
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 08, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
lol.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 08, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
BTW, do we have a tentative date? Do we have a list of when do summer races usually start? IDK, just to get some ideas.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: addie on May 08, 2013, 04:37:38 PM
Well TAR17 was the last time, so I think it should be time for another Europe start.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2013, 05:09:13 PM
Well TAR17 was the last time, so I think it should be time for another Europe start.

Terminology please.

TAR 17 did NOT start in Europe...they started in Gloucester, Mass. The first LEG went to England...but not the start.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
yay for a new board! :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Mandoli on May 08, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
Sorry for not reading up on five pages worth of thread, but... What are the chances that the powers that be put a leg in Canada? I believe they've visited before, but only east.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2013, 06:03:29 PM
Sorry for not reading up on five pages worth of thread, but... What are the chances that the powers that be put a leg in Canada? I believe they've visited before, but only east.

Possible always...

But meanwhile the Canada fun is in the TAR-C LIVE spoiler thread!! :hearts:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/board,146.0.html
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 08, 2013, 06:06:40 PM
TAR is LONGGGG overdue for t\many Caribbean places. We got the South Pacific this season, I think I could see a leg in Trinidad or the D.R., or maybe a revisit to Jamaica (unvisited since TAR 7). I also really agree about South America, I would say a leg in Sao Paulo, and an unvisited city, and then maybe somewhere like Ecuador or Peru. I think Africa will not be on this year unless it is the North. I want none of China, India, Nam, or Indonesia. But I really do not want India. Lastly, it may be too soon, but possibly a visit to Qatar to get some Americans to notice it before the World Cup in 2022.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 08, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
Sorry for not reading up on five pages worth of thread, but... What are the chances that the powers that be put a leg in Canada? I believe they've visited before, but only east.

Twice.

S5 Calgary
S8 Toronto, Montreal and the Niagara region.

But no pitstop -_-
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 08, 2013, 06:17:42 PM
TAR is LONGGGG overdue for t\many Caribbean places. We got the South Pacific this season, I think I could see a leg in Trinidad or the D.R., or maybe a revisit to Jamaica (unvisited since TAR 7). I also really agree about South America, I would say a leg in Sao Paulo, and an unvisited city, and then maybe somewhere like Ecuador or Peru. I think Africa will not be on this year unless it is the North. I want none of China, India, Nam, or Indonesia. But I really do not want India. Lastly, it may be too soon, but possibly a visit to Qatar to get some Americans to notice it before the World Cup in 2022.

Qatar
Its 2013 we still have 9 years.  for a country that is extremely backwards and restrictive to many members of society (women and the lgbt community) I doubt its visited.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 08, 2013, 08:40:30 PM
Yeah i'm hoping for an Caribbean or Europe start. It would be AWESOME!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 08, 2013, 08:41:45 PM
Terminology please.

TAR 17 did NOT start in Europe...they started in Gloucester, Mass. The first LEG went to England...but not the start.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: SamualDude on May 08, 2013, 10:01:52 PM
I would love for the Race to visit Papua New Guinea.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 08, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
My speculation has narrowed down to a Europe or Africa first leg. It's not recommended right now for the race to head to any tropical islands (Carribean or Oceania) because of its recent visit to the French Polynesia.

My spec at the moment is heading towards a long overdue African first leg consisting of North Africa (Marrakech, Morocco outskirts to Gambia to Lagos, Nigeria). That way, two new Africa countries visited and a flight into Europe via Frankfurt or London is race-friendly which could create a gateway to a new European country possibly in the former Yugoslavian region again since season 12.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: GMR 602 on May 09, 2013, 10:36:00 AM
Here's mine:

Since this board is now open, I am willing to guess that this race before the week is over (I'm guessing Saturday)
Mostly like not departing from LAX.

Itll most likely visit;
South America, Africa, Europe, Asia and North America :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 09, 2013, 11:33:05 AM
Are Colombia and Venezuela are still in the travel warning list?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 09, 2013, 01:53:52 PM
Don't y'all get too worked up yet. The new board has much more to do with MY schedule than TAR's.  :oh
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 09, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
Are Colombia and Venezuela are still in the travel warning list?
Colombia definitely, just cause of the drug war. Not sure about Venezuela.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jobby on May 09, 2013, 09:07:25 PM
Don't y'all get too worked up yet. The new board has much more to do with MY schedule than TAR's.  :oh

Word. :lol3:

All ready to see a South American continent first leg and ending in Asia! With Survivor recent success in Philippines... you never know! ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 10, 2013, 08:16:42 AM
Are Colombia and Venezuela are still in the travel warning list?
Colombia definitely, just cause of the drug war. Not sure about Venezuela.

Nope, Venezuela isn't listed on the travel warning list according to the official website, Colombia is.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Headhunter on May 10, 2013, 10:05:35 AM
Just a few thoughts.
The last Los Angeles to Europe start was in 14, and Amazing Race hasn't gone to Europe first since 17. Either Europe won't be the first continent or Los Angeles won't be the start city.
Amazing Race has alternated Australia and New Zealand every 4-5 seasons for a while, an Australia visit won't be likely for this season.
Brazil is hosting the World Cup in 2014. I do think Brazil will be visited in one of the next two seasons, it doesn't hurt that it hasn't been visited since 18.
Africa has been present in 3 of the last 4 seasons, I think this season will skip it.
My prediction is 3-4 continents in total. USA, Central or South America, Europe, Asia, USA.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Kamineko on May 10, 2013, 10:06:45 AM
Welcome to RFF, Headhunter!!! :bigwelcome :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
 :welcome2: to RFF, Headhunter! Some good points in there. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 10, 2013, 06:01:06 PM
Based off of headhunters spec i would say the route could be:

Los Angeles -> Central America -> Brazil -> Scandinavia -> Eastern Europe -> Middle East? -> India  :gaah: -> Philippines -> USA
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: selkie on May 10, 2013, 07:50:36 PM
Detroit as a finish city would make sense. They're one of the few significant US international airports TAR hasn't used yet, you get a lot of daylight filming hours this time of year, and there are a good number of nice places in the area where they could film tasks in relative privacy.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 10, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Middle East, I would think, is still off the boundaries due to the Arab Spring and some Islamisation in Yemen.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 10, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
Possibly Dubai or Abu Dhabi, but anything else is a no.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: paldog123456 on May 10, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
Detroit as a finish city would make sense. They're one of the few significant US international airports TAR hasn't used yet, you get a lot of daylight filming hours this time of year, and there are a good number of nice places in the area where they could film tasks in relative privacy.

I like the way you think! :lol:

Also, I know a perfect place they could finish the race: Meadowbrook Mansion in Rochester Hills. It is fancy, secluded, and can be rented out. Plus, there are tons of things they could do here!

I have a feeling we will see Detroit in the near future.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on May 11, 2013, 10:39:46 AM
If the race visits the Philippines, I predict Detroit as the finish city.
If not, Juneau. They haven't been to Alaska in a while.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 11, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Possibly Dubai or Abu Dhabi, but anything else is a no.

What about Doha, Qatar?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Felix on May 11, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
Do anyone know if Rio de Janeiro is in the warning list after a tourist got raped in a van?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 11, 2013, 08:59:44 PM
The U.S. Department of State only issues travel warnings for only long-term dangerous conditions that would make it risky. Once minor incident will not make the Department of State add Rio to the list. :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 11, 2013, 09:19:59 PM
Rio it's the crime city in Brazil. Don't forget that.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 11, 2013, 09:41:29 PM
Not on the warning list. That is limited to more sustained dangers. But the individual city warnings are quite extensive:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1072.html
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 11, 2013, 09:51:21 PM
Not on the warning list. That is limited to more sustained dangers. But the individual city warnings are quite extensive:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1072.html

Fair enough.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ilhamrizki on May 11, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
How about go to Canada?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 11, 2013, 11:41:26 PM
How about go to Canada?

No. Canada will be out as right now, but the said country is currently filming its version there at the Canadian home soil.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scARCYty on May 12, 2013, 09:40:42 PM
Phil just tweeted this now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Every time I see a plane I feel I should be racing somewhere!Back soon with another #amazingrace (https://twitter.com/search/%23amazingrace) <a href="http://t.co/PuCICvXP5L" title="http://instagram.com/p/ZPDvwsR12W/">instagram.com/p/ZPDvwsR12W/[/url]</p>&mdash; Phil Keoghan (@PhilKeoghan) May 13, 2013 (https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/333772374753292288)
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 12, 2013, 10:05:02 PM
^^ Thanks!! Translated that reads:

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan 27m Every time I see a plane I feel I should be racing somewhere!  Back soon with another #amazingrace http://instagram.com/p/ZPDvwsR12W/

Soon as in about 5 months??!! :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 12, 2013, 10:07:01 PM
I can't wait for us to spoil aaaaaaaaaaaalll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want TAR 23 to start asap
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 12, 2013, 10:10:44 PM
Not yet. ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scARCYty on May 12, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
Haha. Sorry Peach for the very uneven post. I was so frantic to post it that I've forgot to redo it.  :iok

I hope the Philippines get visited. It has been a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time since the country was last visited.

Also, don't you think it is better to have just one race for a year? I mean, the last seasons were very forgettable in general.  :res:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 12, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
Nope!! Two works just fine for me! :lol: But then...I am an addict!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 12, 2013, 11:03:01 PM
Haha. Sorry Peach for the very uneven post. I was so frantic to post it that I've forgot to redo it.  :iok

I hope the Philippines get visited. It has been a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time since the country was last visited.

Also, don't you think it is better to have just one race for a year? I mean, the last seasons were very forgettable in general.  :res:

Ehem. TAR 22 is epic. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 12, 2013, 11:04:12 PM

Ehem. TAR 22 is epic. :)

Agreed.

Sometime this month

*hopefully
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 12, 2013, 11:08:03 PM
I think another Survivor/BB/ whatever reality show team makes it.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 12, 2013, 11:11:58 PM
I think another Survivor/BB/ whatever reality show team makes it.

Evidence? ???
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 12, 2013, 11:17:07 PM
I think another Survivor/BB/ whatever reality show team makes it.

Evidence? ???

It's purely spec. :)

It's just because we have had at least one for each season post UB.

(Brenchel, Amanda/Kris, Beekmans, Ethan/Jenna)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 12, 2013, 11:20:48 PM
Not s22 though
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 12, 2013, 11:26:20 PM
Amanda and Kris? ???
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Washingtonian on May 13, 2013, 06:55:49 AM
Start it in Anchorage, no one would see that coming.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2013, 08:04:57 AM
Maybe, maybe not. We had the season 12 Anchorage finale heavily spoiled. :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: JordanJones123 on May 13, 2013, 08:48:09 AM
Not the most in-depth speculation, but after the amazing route of Tar 22, which was up there with 16 and 18, I am predicting some less picturesque loctions.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Belle Book on May 13, 2013, 10:43:31 AM
^^ Thanks!! Translated that reads:

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan 27m Every time I see a plane I feel I should be racing somewhere!  Back soon with another #amazingrace http://instagram.com/p/ZPDvwsR12W/

Soon as in about 5 months??!! :lol:

More likely a couple of weeks!  Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: maf on May 14, 2013, 12:11:07 AM
From an interview in the 'hil in the news' thread.

I am about to embark on the biggest physical and mental challenge of my life and trust me I will be fueled by my No Opportunity Wasted Energy Bar. In July I will leave Paris to travel around France on a 1928 bicycle. I will average 150 miles a day for 22 days to honor the Australasian team who rode the Tour de France.  Proceeds from my film will go to MS. This is hands down the hardest thing I have attempted to do in my life so far!!!

If Phil is planning to ride around France in July then that must mean that TAR filming is complete by then. Which means it should start filming soon...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on May 14, 2013, 05:57:12 AM
Maybe, maybe not. We had the season 12 Anchorage finale heavily spoiled. :tup:

Portland, Oregon will make a nice starting city. No spoilers for sure.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 14, 2013, 07:32:32 AM
They have to start filming between now and the end of this month , than.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2013, 10:27:02 AM
Maybe, maybe not. We had the season 12 Anchorage finale heavily spoiled. :tup:

Portland, Oregon will make a nice starting city. No spoilers for sure.

:lol3: Good one!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: mjriches2005 on May 14, 2013, 12:02:00 PM
Maybe, maybe not. We had the season 12 Anchorage finale heavily spoiled. :tup:

Portland, Oregon will make a nice starting city. No spoilers for sure.

:lol3: Good one!

Portland doesn't have much in nonstop international flights, the only nonstop internationals other than Canada are Tokyo and Amsterdam on Delta Airlines.  Portland is better off as a finish line city anyway.  Seattle has a better chance as a starting line city due to SeaTac Airport has more international service to Asia and Europe.
TAR23 Filming could start sometime either this weekend or afterwards.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DrRox on May 14, 2013, 12:08:08 PM
Tour de France is from June 29 to July 21. I don't really forsee Phil competing with that. So I would anticipate his ride to take place after July 21.

After TAR 23 filiming, Phil will need some recovery time, to be in shape to do his ride. How many days to you think that will take?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on May 14, 2013, 12:33:16 PM
From an interview in the 'hil in the news' thread.

I am about to embark on the biggest physical and mental challenge of my life and trust me I will be fueled by my No Opportunity Wasted Energy Bar. In July I will leave Paris to travel around France on a 1928 bicycle. I will average 150 miles a day for 22 days to honor the Australasian team who rode the Tour de France.  Proceeds from my film will go to MS. This is hands down the hardest thing I have attempted to do in my life so far!!!

If Phil is planning to ride around France in July then that must mean that TAR filming is complete by then. Which means it should start filming soon...
I think they are gonna start in late May!!!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on May 14, 2013, 06:05:38 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they started slightly earlier than usual considering Season 22 started slightly earlier than usual.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 14, 2013, 07:11:40 PM
Maybe, maybe not. We had the season 12 Anchorage finale heavily spoiled. :tup:

Portland, Oregon will make a nice starting city. No spoilers for sure.

:lol3: Good one!

Portland doesn't have much in nonstop international flights, the only nonstop internationals other than Canada are Tokyo and Amsterdam on Delta Airlines.  Portland is better off as a finish line city anyway.  Seattle has a better chance as a starting line city due to SeaTac Airport has more international service to Asia and Europe.
TAR23 Filming could start sometime either this weekend or afterwards.
I have a feeling they might start in a Texas city (most likely Houston) or Detroit because they also provide airline services internationally. Houston's intercontinental airport is known for traveling to all continents except Antarctica (obviously :res: ) I suggest keeping a watchdog in Houston because I see it as a starting line location and not a finish line location. It hasn't even been featured.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 14, 2013, 07:21:09 PM
I think the starting line might be in Miami. In S20 when the went to South American, IIRC, the flew from LA to Miami and then on their way, so maybe production can skip the domestic flight in the US and start in Miami. Miami also has many flights to Europe as well and we are due for the first leg to be in Europe.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 14, 2013, 10:44:21 PM
I think the starting line might be in Miami. In S20 when the went to South American, IIRC, the flew from LA to Miami and then on their way, so maybe production can skip the domestic flight in the US and start in Miami. Miami also has many flights to Europe as well and we are due for the first leg to be in Europe.
Not being rude, but Miami is about as :groan: as a starting line location in L.A. County again. We've all seen Los Angeles or Miami featured in some way or another including airport arrivals for nearly every season now since TAR10.

It's like exercising in the same routine week by week. I kind of want something fresh in TAR23 since we all know viewership has been shrinking over the years and I want a route that will "pop" like the famous U.S. to Japan leg in TAR15 or TAR10's double elimination (1/2 point and full meter).

I have a gut feeling spec that WRP may start in a new state, but if it's wrong, good luck, because 23 is usually the number people forget in counting.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: couchracer on May 14, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
I would love a Texas start. Historic Galveston. Sam Houston Statue in Walker county. Battle Ship Texas. Any for a Houston start.
San Antonio for the Riverwalk (La Villita) or the Alamo start. Would have to likely fly to Mexico though.
No I do not live in Texas.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ovalorange on May 15, 2013, 03:55:34 AM
because 23 is usually the number people forget in counting.

Oh I'm sure that has a major impact on how WRP is planning this season :res:

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 15, 2013, 10:23:02 AM
because 23 is usually the number people forget in counting.

Oh I'm sure that has a major impact on how WRP is planning this season :res:

LOLL

But seriously I think we are due for an East Coast start.

S11 = Miami
5 straight in La
S17 = Boston
5 straight in La
S23 = Non La start?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: WalterC on May 15, 2013, 02:43:25 PM
Detroit as a finish city would make sense. They're one of the few significant US international airports TAR hasn't used yet, you get a lot of daylight filming hours this time of year, and there are a good number of nice places in the area where they could film tasks in relative privacy.

Plus the headquarters of one of the race's sponsors. ;)

LA has been in every season since All-Stars, and I just don't see S23 will be any different. S17 was the exception, only because they wanted use LA as the finish line city for a change.

I predict the starting line will be in the Inland Empire, if they were to consider starting outside of the LA area. A starting line task, then drive Ford Fusions to LAX.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Mandoli on May 15, 2013, 02:53:55 PM
Yeah... Unless the powers that be are really adventurous, the start point's going to be in LA.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 15, 2013, 04:52:59 PM
because 23 is usually the number people forget in counting.

Oh I'm sure that has a major impact on how WRP is planning this season :res:

LOLL

But seriously I think we are due for an East Coast start.

S11 = Miami
5 straight in La
S17 = Boston
5 straight in La
S23 = Non La start?

Cool data, but with almost 50 people to travel (teams, cameramen, soundmen, Phil...) it is just that WRP searches for the cheapest way to do things. If LAX is easier to connect their flight, do not doubt about it.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 15, 2013, 07:04:50 PM
Another Texas final is long overdue. San Antonio or Houston though.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: themikko95 on May 15, 2013, 09:50:04 PM
Um, what's wrong with an LA start? We only get to see it for the first 15 mins of the first episode anyway.  :) And what I care more about is a non LA finish .




Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Mug Costanza on May 15, 2013, 11:08:35 PM
Um, what's wrong with an LA start? We only get to see it for the first 15 mins of the first episode anyway.  :) And what I care more about is a non LA finish .

I was just going to post this. :lol:

I'd be worried that a non-LA start would mean an LA Finish Line, like TAR17.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: WalterC on May 16, 2013, 10:22:44 AM
The only way I would see a non-LA start, is if the entire first leg would take place in that city, just like in TAR Asia. But we all know that will never happen in the US edition, as we would react the same way as Marion Paolo did during the middle of *that* season.  :)

Um, what's wrong with an LA start? We only get to see it for the first 15 mins of the first episode anyway.  :) And what I care more about is a non LA finish .

Same here. While I still don't like the LA starts, but have learned to accept it, since we don't really see much of it, since it's mainly about the start of a new race.

Besides, when they did start in the Boston area in S17, we did not really get to see much of it either. Kind of a waste, since it was the race's first ever visit to New England. But hopefully, it will be visited again in the final leg of a future season.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: apskip on May 16, 2013, 10:22:57 AM
I believe that Phil's grueling bike ride around France means that AR23 will be run and filmed before July.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: north09 on May 16, 2013, 01:51:43 PM
I remember it starting memorial day weekend last year, so I would expect around the same time frame this year.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Prophet on May 16, 2013, 04:05:28 PM
Another Texas final is long overdue. San Antonio or Houston though.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 16, 2013, 07:36:15 PM
I just want them to take off ASAP so we can chase them down.  :lol3:

Also , i don't think it's in LA again. I hope we can see another location , maybe leaving LA for a final leg or something like this...

My prediction for a final city : Anchorage (i really hope they get back there soon)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Oddarane on May 17, 2013, 01:37:48 PM
Phil tweeted this today.

Reflective heading 2 France 2nite + just realized I dropped my daughter off at school for the last time, next up college! @nooppwasted (https://twitter.com/nooppwasted)</p>&mdash; Phil Keoghan (@PhilKeoghan) 17. mai 2013 (https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/335398413455745024)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Zack. on May 17, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
Nm.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on May 17, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
FWIW: Next weekend (Fri-Mon, the 24th-27th) is Memorial Day weekend in the U.S.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on May 18, 2013, 01:52:07 PM
Early june than...?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 18, 2013, 02:38:13 PM
No, it's just production likes to start on Memorial Day Weekend.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: kathleenykl on May 19, 2013, 01:50:56 AM
On destinations:
I am almost 100% locked on onto Malaysia. It's been 6 seasons and one of the cheapest SE Asia destinations, with just enough to keep it fresh every visit. We could look at Eastern peninsular malaysia (Kuantan/Kota Bharu) or Western/Southern (Ipoh/Malacca/ Penang again why not?) or Kuching/Miri/Kota Kinabalu on Borneo. Our Malaysia fans should keep an eye out this season.

Legs in China are almost always interesting, so count that in for TAR23. They might explore Southern China due to convenient connection by Hong Kong. Cities such as Guangzhou, Xiamen, Haikou/Sanya on Hainan island. If they transit by Shanghai, it would be Suzhou, Hangzhou, Wuxi & the UNESCO Huangshan in neighbouring Anhui province. I do not think they will do a leg in/around the northern part i.e. via Beijing. The only possibility would be Harbin/Shenyang to connect into Russia's eastern edge, or Inner Mongolia/Xinjiang to connect to Mongolia. Count Chengdu out.

Also, Cambodia for the same reasons as Malaysia. Though it would be freaking hot!! The last time it was visited was the Zev & Justin passport disaster leg IIRC. And that was just Phnom Penh. Siem Reap has lots to show in the 10 seasons since its Race visit. And in between the 2 cities, Baray, Kampong Cham, Preah Vihear (UNESCO temple) could be an additional leg in the same way producers like to have Phuket/Chiang Mai as an additional leg when visiting Thailand.

I could envision 2-3 legs in Mongolia/Irkutsk/Lake Baikal region in seasons to come. That is a region yet to be explored. Vladivostok/ROK/Japan might be a stretch due to their proximity to DPRK. Singapore and Philippines are about time too, even if it was just 1 Manila city leg. It would truly surprise me in a good way if the race went to Myanmar, or Nepal.

On Europe: I don't think they can skip this continent entirely. Like Asia, when cultures are so different and in Asia's case when 2/3 of the world resides there, it's not really a "Race around the world" if you don't visit it.
Very low chances of TAR23 going to: France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland
Moderate chances: Spain (least likely Barcelona due to S21), Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland
High chances: Portugal, Hungary, Baltic states, Former Yugoslavia states - you get where i'm going with this

On start/end cities:
Have they ever done Philly?
Just for the random lulz -> Wichita, KS - "aviation capital of US"
Dover, Delaware
New Orleans
Galveston
Denver
Boise
Kansas City
Dallas
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: themikko95 on May 19, 2013, 02:51:54 AM
What are the chances of the Race ending in North/South Dakota or Nebraska? ???
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 19, 2013, 03:05:18 AM
Next to nothing :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: apskip on May 19, 2013, 05:15:36 AM
Next to nothing :lol:
That is right. Here's why:
Amazing Races usually end with a leg featuring a long international flight from Asia, Europe, South America or another flying from or finishing in a distant part of the U.S. (Alaska, Hawaii, Guam). The only ones not fitting that that occur to me are AR5 (Calgary) and AR8 (Toronto).


Editor's right - airlinesguy is basically right in his recommendation below. I did not include any Caribbean jumping-off-for-finale points, but AR7 with Jamaica/Puerto Rico could qualify. The flight from San Juan into Miami was only a few hours, which is why I did not think of it.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 19, 2013, 05:17:25 AM
Jamaica would fit too.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Belle Book on May 19, 2013, 11:08:14 AM
On destinations:
I am almost 100% locked on onto Malaysia. It's been 6 seasons and one of the cheapest SE Asia destinations, with just enough to keep it fresh every visit. We could look at Eastern peninsular malaysia (Kuantan/Kota Bharu) or Western/Southern (Ipoh/Malacca/ Penang again why not?) or Kuching/Miri/Kota Kinabalu on Borneo. Our Malaysia fans should keep an eye out this season.

Legs in China are almost always interesting, so count that in for TAR23. They might explore Southern China due to convenient connection by Hong Kong. Cities such as Guangzhou, Xiamen, Haikou/Sanya on Hainan island. If they transit by Shanghai, it would be Suzhou, Hangzhou, Wuxi & the UNESCO Huangshan in neighbouring Anhui province. I do not think they will do a leg in/around the northern part i.e. via Beijing. The only possibility would be Harbin/Shenyang to connect into Russia's eastern edge, or Inner Mongolia/Xinjiang to connect to Mongolia. Count Chengdu out.

Also, Cambodia for the same reasons as Malaysia. Though it would be freaking hot!! The last time it was visited was the Zev & Justin passport disaster leg IIRC. And that was just Phnom Penh. Siem Reap has lots to show in the 10 seasons since its Race visit. And in between the 2 cities, Baray, Kampong Cham, Preah Vihear (UNESCO temple) could be an additional leg in the same way producers like to have Phuket/Chiang Mai as an additional leg when visiting Thailand.

I could envision 2-3 legs in Mongolia/Irkutsk/Lake Baikal region in seasons to come. That is a region yet to be explored. Vladivostok/ROK/Japan might be a stretch due to their proximity to DPRK. Singapore and Philippines are about time too, even if it was just 1 Manila city leg. It would truly surprise me in a good way if the race went to Myanmar, or Nepal.

On Europe: I don't think they can skip this continent entirely. Like Asia, when cultures are so different and in Asia's case when 2/3 of the world resides there, it's not really a "Race around the world" if you don't visit it.
Very low chances of TAR23 going to: France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland
Moderate chances: Spain (least likely Barcelona due to S21), Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland
High chances: Portugal, Hungary, Baltic states, Former Yugoslavia states - you get where i'm going with this

On start/end cities:
Have they ever done Philly?
Just for the random lulz -> Wichita, KS - "aviation capital of US"
Dover, Delaware
New Orleans
Galveston
Denver
Boise
Kansas City
Dallas

I like your suggestions for countries to visit.

No, they've never really done Philly.  I don't live in the area anymore -- I had to move to Raleigh -- but I'd love to see a start or end in Philly, since it was near home for so long!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: north09 on May 19, 2013, 04:35:48 PM
If they ever start/finish in Philly, I'm willing to drop what ever I'm doing and head into the city. I live like 45 minutes outside of it. I keep waiting.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: selkie on May 19, 2013, 04:54:24 PM
Jamaica would fit too.

We haven't seen the Caribbean in a while, have we? and while it's technically hurricane season on June 1, storms that early are quite rare. Seems like they could find an acceptably safe island, and flight access between the region and the US is generally good, especially with a NYC or Miami start.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 19, 2013, 05:34:03 PM
I'll be in Philly for 2 days this summer, and I'll be on the lookout!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: docol on May 20, 2013, 10:22:51 AM
I can't wait..!!! i just want to start seeing the tweets and some pics of the teams  :yess: :colors
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jobby on May 21, 2013, 12:04:33 AM
If it's Malaysia guess it's time for some TAR scooping for me. :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 21, 2013, 12:09:52 AM
If it's Malaysia guess it's time for some TAR scooping for me. :lol3:

Ditto for Philippines. :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: thespicdatum on May 21, 2013, 02:41:13 AM
YEah, it's about time the Philippines gets a leg or two. There are so many things they can do here. How about a balut-eating or one-day-old-eating and a heavy physical task (a market task which requires them to get dirty and tired) detour
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: NiceGuy on May 21, 2013, 07:57:23 PM
This season should start filming soon right?  I wonder if they have the cast by now. 
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Joeyslimo on May 21, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
I dont think so last i saw Phil was in France for some reason :O
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 21, 2013, 09:33:30 PM
 :hello2: and :bigwelcome to RFF Joeyslimo!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: sox15 on May 21, 2013, 10:39:30 PM
Man...I'd be so pissed if they went to Ilocos Norte, Philippines.  I was just there in March/April 2013!  I can already imagine them visiting Batac to make empanadas or ziplining in Pagudpud or visiting the windmills in Bangui.

Heck, I'd be happy with a visit anywhere in the country!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: WalterC on May 22, 2013, 05:18:35 PM
Have they ever done Philly?

Never for a finale. The only time they went to Philly, was during Family Edition, for an overnight stay in tents that teams had to pitch.

It would be awesome if they finished in Philly, since I live and work in it. And feel like it will get its due soon, after 4 of the last 5 seasons have finished in NL East cities (baseball fans will know what I'm referring to  :) ). That's assuming S23 is going west.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 22, 2013, 06:48:36 PM
after 4 of the last 5 seasons have finished in NL East cities (baseball fans will know what I'm referring to  :) ).
Wow, I honestly hadn't noticed that! Washington, NYC, Atlanta, Miami.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 22, 2013, 10:39:40 PM
This season should start filming soon right?  I wonder if they have the cast by now.

Yes they do. :) In fact, they are casting TAR 24 right now. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 23, 2013, 12:51:11 AM
No the cast for TAR 24 is by no means set.

TAR 23 IS casted.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: WinTar on May 23, 2013, 01:18:26 AM
Man...I'd be so pissed if they went to Ilocos Norte, Philippines.  I was just there in March/April 2013!  I can already imagine them visiting Batac to make empanadas or ziplining in Pagudpud or visiting the windmills in Bangui.

Heck, I'd be happy with a visit anywhere in the country!
I'm from Batac (my father is). I actually did all those things during my vacation there from May 9-16.

No the cast for TAR 24 is by no means set.

TAR 23 IS casted.
I think he meant CASTING, as in they're accepting applications for TAR 24.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 24, 2013, 01:12:01 AM
No the cast for TAR 24 is by no means set.

TAR 23 IS casted.

I meant "CASTING". Like apps were being accepted. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 24, 2013, 04:15:14 PM
Nevermind, move along, nothing to see here anymore.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: north09 on May 24, 2013, 04:37:50 PM
If he was legit serious, I would think we'd be seeing other tweets. I believe it will start this weekend though.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 24, 2013, 04:46:52 PM
Yeah, he said he saw them filming a team with a golden envelope at an airport Starbucks. That didn't make a lot of sense for several reasons. When I tried to get more info, he just got more vague and finally clammed up. I think I got trolled.

I agree we would have seen other tweets if they had been filming. I think it'll be a while before it starts. Maybe next weekend, maybe not.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: north09 on May 24, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
I don't know man, they started at this time last year. Keep an eye out.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on May 24, 2013, 09:13:03 PM
someone tweeted saying they saw some amazing race teams at the Denver airport 5 hours ago??? :O


Father/Daughter team????
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: NumfarPTB on May 24, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Yeah, he said he saw them filming a team with a golden envelope at an airport Starbucks. That didn't make a lot of sense for several reasons. When I tried to get more info, he just got more vague and finally clammed up. I think I got trolled.

I agree we would have seen other tweets if they had been filming. I think it'll be a while before it starts. Maybe next weekend, maybe not.

Isn't Phil in France this weekend. It makes starting this weekend very unlikely.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 24, 2013, 11:25:30 PM
Before beginning to name possible/impossible countries to visit for this season, I would like to hear some feedback about route directions first. I think an original rightward route is a little overdue since TAR21 and 22 basically covered that twice in a row. I do NOT want Oceania or Asia in the first leg this season; I would flip a couch. :lol:

It's possible for WRP to drag a unique route like 7 or 13 again. To keep it a little "weirded" out, I think a route flow of USA --> Caribbean --> Baltic Europe --> Africa --> Upper Asia (not China) --> USA would be pretty cool. With better editing and more race dama, it could be running with the TAR12 through TAR17 era.

 
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 25, 2013, 12:35:28 AM
Yeah, he said he saw them filming a team with a golden envelope at an airport Starbucks. That didn't make a lot of sense for several reasons. When I tried to get more info, he just got more vague and finally clammed up. I think I got trolled.

I agree we would have seen other tweets if they had been filming. I think it'll be a while before it starts. Maybe next weekend, maybe not.

Isn't Phil in France this weekend. It makes starting this weekend very unlikely.

Phil being in France to do some cycling was the main reason why I figure it'll be another week or so before they begin the race. When I said next weekend above, I meant the June 1-2 weekend. It could be sooner if Phil returns in the next few days.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Loken on May 25, 2013, 04:39:21 AM
go to nepal!!!!!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 26, 2013, 12:54:22 AM
someone tweeted saying they saw some amazing race teams at the Denver airport 5 hours ago??? :O


Father/Daughter team????

That was the tweet I posted earlier and then removed. It's what north09 and I were discussing above. I had my doubts, so I exchanged a couple of tweets with the guy and it became clear it wasn't a real sighting.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Mister RC on May 27, 2013, 10:55:13 AM
I think there will be a lot of parent/child teams for this season 23. 3-4 teams maybe? The last season we have 3 parent/child team is season 18. Doesn't TAR want to have parent/child winner?

The route is eastward, I'm quite sure. I think they'll try something new, like putting South American legs on last.


Hopefully, if we end up getting our Parent/Child winner, it'll be a 60 year-old kid with a 80 (plus) year-old teammate (or late 70s). All sort of records will fall if that happens!

Yeah, the SA end isn't new, but I would totally be for your idea. Would be a refreshing switch to the typical route in the majority of the past seasons
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: mjriches2005 on May 27, 2013, 10:04:43 PM
I hope the race begins filming soon later this week, I am looking towards it.  I hope to see more new countries.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: couchracer on May 27, 2013, 10:26:18 PM
Phil seems to be riding across France, but on a speedy bike. Practice for the July ride?
He probably will be through in a few days. Race start by June1, maybe May 30 or 31.
Or sooner. Can not wait.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DrRox on May 28, 2013, 04:27:44 AM
Phil seems to be riding across France, but on a speedy bike. Practice for the July ride?
He probably will be through in a few days. Race start by June1, maybe May 30 or 31.
Or sooner. Can not wait.

Phil is doing a route recon in a car/bus/van for his ride later. He is good, but I dont think he can ride 500 miles a day.

In his twitter feed, he said his route recon was total of 3800 miles. After day 9 he had traveled 2700 miles...so that means he has 2-3 more days of recon.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: couchracer on May 28, 2013, 01:11:52 PM
Thanks, I thought it must be something like that, but I wondered. Super biker.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on May 28, 2013, 04:40:42 PM
Hello, all! An old member here, decided to make a new account after a extended hiatus.

I wanted to add my thoughts in regards to the speculations about potential countries/locations.

I will go region by region, stating which locations/combinations I believe will most likely be used:

I will start off with Latin America:
Likelihood that the race will visit: Likely
The region has not been used for 2 seasons, and now seems like a perfect time to return.  My personal opinion is that South America is much more likely than Central, or the Caribbean. The region will get 2-3 legs, either at the very beginning or very end of the race.

My top choices:
1. Ecuador/Peru (3 legs)
Two very wonderful countries that have been sorely underused by the U.S. franchise. Ecuador, especially Guayaquil is relatively easy to get to from the U.S., so having the premiere/penultimate legs here would not necessarily be a logistical mess. Guayaquil is Ecuador's largest city, so it can very easily host it's own leg; it is also the main jumping off point to reach the Galapagos Islands, which would be amazing to shoot in HD. For Peru, the only place they really visited was Cusco and Machu Picchu (sort of), and that was way back in Season 7. Even a return to that area to get a proper use of it would be a breath of fresh air. Plenty of connecting flights between Guayaquil and Lima, and Lima is only a couple hours flight from major hubs that can get teams to Europe, Africa, or the South Pacific and vice versa. (If they can get from Bolivia to New Zealand in Season 13, they could easily to something similar with Peru, just sayin')

2. Brazil (2 legs)
Brazil is an old go to for the Amazing Race, it is one country that no matter how many times it gets visited, there always seems to be a new energy and pizzazz to it. Though I would not be surprised to see a return to Sao Paulo, I personally believe that should the race return to Brazil it will feature new cities. Not since Season 2 has the race ventured into the interior of the country (though Brotas (S9) wasn't on the coast, it definitely wouldn't constitute it being called an 'interior city'). Look out for places like Brasilia or even Manaus (wishful thinking).

3. Peru/Bolivia (3 legs)
I'm itching for a return to Peru, and for good reason. The country is rich in history and culture and yet gets overlooked for countries like Argentina, Brazil, and Chile. I think Peru's next turn is coming soon. I would love them to cross the border from Peru to Bolivia via Lake Titicaca, I think it would work very well and look nice (also, it's a place that many Americans know because of it's name). They can then take teams to the Salt Flats in Bolivia, or one of several other Bolivian sites and cities so far skipped by the race.

I don't see much else as a strong possibility, outside of a Central American or Caribbean team being the first destination, or hosting the penultimate or even part of the final leg, before returning to the States. Likely candidates for that role:
1. Dominican Republic (could be used as an opening leg, before heading to Brazil or Europe)
2. Barbados (same as the D.R.)
3. Belize (could see this come in as something similar to Puerto Rico in S7- part of the final leg, hosting a couple tasks before returning to the U.S.)
4. Bahamas (same as Belize)

I don't believe Northern South America is quite ready to host the U.S. franchise (or maybe we're still not ready for it), and for the most part, the Caribbean and C.A. just seem too close to home for production to want to make a point of going there.

Feel free to comment on my thoughts, and add your speculation and opinions to my own- just trying to get conversations started :)

And if you'd like, my thoughts on where in Europe, if they go to Africa, and the general race route will come later!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: north09 on May 28, 2013, 07:30:42 PM
Since we're kind of just waiting around for Phil to get back and hopefully get this thing filmed soon, I'll play along. I think that this season they have to go east after starting the last two going west. That means, assuming they stick with what they always do, either a start in South America and then onto Europe or go straight to Europe. Or I could be wrong and they do something totally different.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on May 29, 2013, 01:45:33 AM
Hi! I'm new here! I usually come here to just check up on amazing race spoilers, and I thought I might as well make an account :)
Haha anyway as tar 23 spec, what's the chance of this season starting or ending in Phoenix, AZ?
Also, as for actual countries visited, I think Poland, Portugal, and the Philippines are definitely up for re-visits, and I think we should keep our eyes peeled for new visits to Monaco & Bahamas.
Thanks!
-Brannockdevice
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2013, 02:44:08 AM
:welcome: to RFF, Brannockdevice!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 29, 2013, 05:32:17 AM
Hi! I'm new here! I usually come here to just check up on amazing race spoilers, and I thought I might as well make an account :)
Haha anyway as tar 23 spec, what's the chance of this season starting or ending in Phoenix, AZ?
Also, as for actual countries visited, I think Poland, Portugal, and the Philippines are definitely up for re-visits, and I think we should keep our eyes peeled for new visits to Monaco & Bahamas.
Thanks!
-Brannockdevice

LOL TAR23: P Edition

I would be delighted if these three countries get chosen for this season, it's been a LONG while since they appeared. Not sure about Monaco and Bahamas. Monaco implies a visit to France, which we recently had. I still expect a Nice-Monaco-Italian Alps visit for a TAR 24 or 25, BTW.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Hysha on May 29, 2013, 09:22:24 AM
Hi there!

I'm Jorge, from Spain. I'm not good with english, but i'll try to write good for being understood by all. I talk in english like Tarzán! hahah

I hope this season they will go to countries not visited yet, or been visited a few times (Portgual, Philppines, Laos, Nepal...) Obviously, not China, France, Japan, India...

I created my season. Maybe it have a lot of "ignored" countries, but i like.

1 – USA - CUBA -> From NY to La Habanna. A fall from a skyscraper in NY will be amazing. TAR was never to Cuba.

2- CUBA – COSTA RICA -> Costa Rica is one of the most expected countries to see on the next season.

3- COSTA RICA – FIYI -> Oceania have more than Australia and NZ!

4 - FIYI – AUSTRALIA - PHILIPPINES -> Please, go Philippines.

5 -  PHILIPPINES – LAOS -> Laos, another beautiful country not visited yet.

6 – LAOS – NEPAL -> Like Laos.

7 – NEPAL – EGYPT -> A leg on the desert will be great, with pyramides, sphinx..

8 - EGYPT -> One leg for Africa is so poor.

9 – EGYPT – GREECE -> Greece is beautiful. They can go to Mykonos.

10 – GREECE – SPAIN -> I know Spain was visited on the 21st season, but it's my country, i want TAR go there. This time to Canary islands.

11 – SPAIN – PORTUGAL -> Portugal needs a visit.

12 – PORTUGAL – CANADÁ -> The semifinal.

13 – CANADÁ - USA -> The final in Alaska.

I think Africa need more legs too. There are so many countries in this continent are not visited yet.

Please, no more boys team winners. (I don't like Bates and Anthony from 22, sorry! )-**)

I'm so excited for spoiler from the next season, i love this reality show! :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 29, 2013, 09:50:35 AM
Bienvenido, Hysha!!! Más españolees!! :D

BTW, Cuba has never been visited because of obvious reasons of the relationship of US with that country.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Kacper on May 29, 2013, 09:50:47 AM
Phil just tweeted:
"#Heathrow to #LAX on @FlyAirNZ fantastic flight back home thank you team! @NoOppWasted"

So I guess he is on his way back already?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 29, 2013, 09:51:24 AM
Phil just tweeted:
"#Heathrow to #LAX on @FlyAirNZ fantastic flight back home thank you team! @NoOppWasted"

So I guess he is on his way back already?

Is this a Ready... Set... ¿?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Kacper on May 29, 2013, 09:54:09 AM
I don't know. I would think Phil would need some rest time before starting after all these miles he traveled on the bike. I guess we will find out soon!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on May 29, 2013, 10:39:22 AM
Bienvenido, Hysha!!! Más españolees!! :D

BTW, Cuba has never been visited because of obvious reasons of the relationship of US with that country.

And don't expect a visit anytime soon.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DrRox on May 29, 2013, 11:42:17 AM
I don't know. I would think Phil would need some rest time before starting after all these miles he traveled on the bike. I guess we will find out soon!

A bike????

Phil posted this 10 hours ago...

(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/drrox1/TAR23/BLaPj5FCUAApqI5_zps10e10946.jpg) (http://s1124.photobucket.com/user/drrox1/media/TAR23/BLaPj5FCUAApqI5_zps10e10946.jpg.html)

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan  10h 
#LeRide #1928Tdf scout #France 10Days, 3,341 miles in a trusty @Ford next time I'm on these roads will be on a bike! pic.twitter.com/jQdH6rILdy


So no bike riding for Phil....his route recon was in a car. His bike ride will come later this summer.


Phil posted this one hour ago....

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan  1h 
#Heathrow to #LAX on @FlyAirNZ fantastic flight back home thank you team! @NoOppWasted


This appears to be just before the departure of Air New Zealand flight 1, also about an hour ago. He has a 10 hour flight to LA.

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: couchracer on May 29, 2013, 12:37:29 PM
Hoorah. Ready for the start in a few days. Los Angeles start, blah, but they do have so many venues to choose from.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2013, 01:02:36 PM
:welcome: to RFF Hysha!! I undersatnd your English perfectly!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 29, 2013, 01:12:02 PM
I found a tweet from someone who traveled with Phil yesterday. She was traveling from Spain to Washington DC. I'm not sure how that matches up with Phil's flights, but obviously it did.

Ilana Avergun ‏@ilana_eve 28 May
Phil from The Amazing Race aka new plane friend! He asked if I felt smarter after studying abroad. #bffs #traveltales pic.twitter.com/QlArwECm0J



(http://imageshack.us/a/img4/7515/philtravelinghomefromfr.jpg)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ZBC Company on May 29, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
Phil just tweeted:
"#Heathrow to #LAX on @FlyAirNZ fantastic flight back home thank you team! @NoOppWasted"

So I guess he is on his way back already?

Will he is form nz mabye going to nz
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Mattjimf on May 29, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
Phil just tweeted:
"#Heathrow to #LAX on @FlyAirNZ fantastic flight back home thank you team! @NoOppWasted"

So I guess he is on his way back already?

Will he is form nz mabye going to nz
AirNZ fly regularly from Heathrow to LAX
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: jlim201 on May 29, 2013, 03:22:23 PM
Hi there!

I'm Jorge, from Spain. I'm not good with english, but i'll try to write good for being understood by all. I talk in english like Tarzán! hahah

I hope this season they will go to countries not visited yet, or been visited a few times (Portgual, Philppines, Laos, Nepal...) Obviously, not China, France, Japan, India...

I created my season. Maybe it have a lot of "ignored" countries, but i like.

1 – USA - CUBA -> From NY to La Habanna. A fall from a skyscraper in NY will be amazing. TAR was never to Cuba. (Americans cant go to Cuba)

2- CUBA – COSTA RICA -> Costa Rica is one of the most expected countries to see on the next season.

3- COSTA RICA – FIYI -> Oceania have more than Australia and NZ!

4 - FIYI – AUSTRALIA - PHILIPPINES -> Please, go Philippines.

5 -  PHILIPPINES – LAOS -> Laos, another beautiful country not visited yet.

6 – LAOS – NEPAL -> Like Laos.

7 – NEPAL – EGYPT -> A leg on the desert will be great, with pyramides, sphinx.. (Egypt is considered dangerous)

8 - EGYPT -> One leg for Africa is so poor.

9 – EGYPT – GREECE -> Greece is beautiful. They can go to Mykonos.

10 – GREECE – SPAIN -> I know Spain was visited on the 21st season, but it's my country, i want TAR go there. This time to Canary islands.

11 – SPAIN – PORTUGAL -> Portugal needs a visit.

12 – PORTUGAL – CANADÁ -> The semifinal.

13 – CANADÁ - USA -> The final in Alaska.

I think Africa need more legs too. There are so many countries in this continent are not visited yet.

Please, no more boys team winners. (I don't like Bates and Anthony from 22, sorry! )-**)

I'm so excited for spoiler from the next season, i love this reality show! :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on May 29, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
Hi! I'm new here! I usually come here to just check up on amazing race spoilers, and I thought I might as well make an account :)
Haha anyway as tar 23 spec, what's the chance of this season starting or ending in Phoenix, AZ?
Also, as for actual countries visited, I think Poland, Portugal, and the Philippines are definitely up for re-visits, and I think we should keep our eyes peeled for new visits to Monaco & Bahamas.
Thanks!
-Brannockdevice

LOL TAR23: P Edition

I would be delighted if these three countries get chosen for this season, it's been a LONG while since they appeared. Not sure about Monaco and Bahamas. Monaco implies a visit to France, which we recently had. I still expect a Nice-Monaco-Italian Alps visit for a TAR 24 or 25, BTW.


Haha I didn't even realize that! Lol that's pretty funny.
Anyway is it safe now to visit Kazakhstan? It would make my day if they visited Astana (coolest city ever). Adding on to my spec, if they don't go to Monaco, I'd say a new visit to Malta or the Italian island of Sardinia would be fantastic!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 29, 2013, 05:44:30 PM
I always have trouble understanding why Monaco was never visited. It is LONG overdue.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: paldog123456 on May 29, 2013, 08:40:01 PM
I always have trouble understanding why Monaco was never visited. It is LONG overdue.

Monaco is one of the priciest countries of the world. Although TAR has a somewhat large budget when compared to that of other reality television shows, they probably would rather not gamble half of their budget away in one Monaco leg (get the casino reference? :lol: ).
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Parovic on May 29, 2013, 08:55:02 PM
I hope that there will be some new regions like svalbard or palau
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on May 29, 2013, 11:45:26 PM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 29, 2013, 11:48:44 PM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?

Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran

......

 :res:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on May 29, 2013, 11:57:17 PM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?

Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran

......

 :res:

You never know, they could visit Iraqi Kurdistan, which is fairly safe :)
Haha no but really, are there any places we can rule out, besides countries like Switzerland or Russia that have been visited in the last few seasons?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: topaz on May 30, 2013, 12:19:41 AM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?

Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran

......

 :res:
and even:
North Korea
Syria
Somalia
Libya
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on May 30, 2013, 01:39:44 AM
Yeah, everywhere like that and such as.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 30, 2013, 01:41:36 AM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?

Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran

......

 :res:
and even:
North Korea
Syria
Somalia
Libya
Cuba
Mali
Uganda
Rwanda
Burundi

(going into obscurity :lol: )
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: APABLD on May 30, 2013, 03:25:50 AM
I know it will never happen, but I think it would be really interesting if they devoted an entire season to cities and/or countries never visited before (besides the United States of course).

I'd love for Laos to be in TAR23's route, as my parents are from there.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 30, 2013, 06:39:51 AM
Hi there!

I'm Jorge, from Spain. I'm not good with english, but i'll try to write good for being understood by all. I talk in english like Tarzán! hahah

I hope this season they will go to countries not visited yet, or been visited a few times (Portgual, Philppines, Laos, Nepal...) Obviously, not China, France, Japan, India...

I created my season. Maybe it have a lot of "ignored" countries, but i like.

1 – USA - CUBA -> From NY to La Habanna. A fall from a skyscraper in NY will be amazing. TAR was never to Cuba. (Americans cant go to Cuba)

2- CUBA – COSTA RICA -> Costa Rica is one of the most expected countries to see on the next season.

3- COSTA RICA – FIYI -> Oceania have more than Australia and NZ!

4 - FIYI – AUSTRALIA - PHILIPPINES -> Please, go Philippines.

5 -  PHILIPPINES – LAOS -> Laos, another beautiful country not visited yet.

6 – LAOS – NEPAL -> Like Laos.

7 – NEPAL – EGYPT -> A leg on the desert will be great, with pyramides, sphinx.. (Egypt is considered dangerous)

8 - EGYPT -> One leg for Africa is so poor.

9 – EGYPT – GREECE -> Greece is beautiful. They can go to Mykonos.

10 – GREECE – SPAIN -> I know Spain was visited on the 21st season, but it's my country, i want TAR go there. This time to Canary islands.

11 – SPAIN – PORTUGAL -> Portugal needs a visit.

12 – PORTUGAL – CANADÁ -> The semifinal.

13 – CANADÁ - USA -> The final in Alaska.

I think Africa need more legs too. There are so many countries in this continent are not visited yet.

Please, no more boys team winners. (I don't like Bates and Anthony from 22, sorry! )-**)

I'm so excited for spoiler from the next season, i love this reality show! :hearts:
This would make a great season 12-style race! :hearts: Oh yeah, and Americans can visit Cuba, just not use the US Dollar for currency there.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scARCYty on May 30, 2013, 06:50:37 AM
Hi there!

I'm Jorge, from Spain. I'm not good with english, but i'll try to write good for being understood by all. I talk in english like Tarzán! hahah

I hope this season they will go to countries not visited yet, or been visited a few times (Portgual, Philppines, Laos, Nepal...) Obviously, not China, France, Japan, India...

I created my season. Maybe it have a lot of "ignored" countries, but i like.

1 – USA - CUBA -> From NY to La Habanna. A fall from a skyscraper in NY will be amazing. TAR was never to Cuba.

2- CUBA – COSTA RICA -> Costa Rica is one of the most expected countries to see on the next season.

3- COSTA RICA – FIYI -> Oceania have more than Australia and NZ!

4 - FIYI – AUSTRALIA - PHILIPPINES -> Please, go Philippines.

5 -  PHILIPPINES – LAOS -> Laos, another beautiful country not visited yet.

6 – LAOS – NEPAL -> Like Laos.

7 – NEPAL – EGYPT -> A leg on the desert will be great, with pyramides, sphinx..

8 - EGYPT -> One leg for Africa is so poor.

9 – EGYPT – GREECE -> Greece is beautiful. They can go to Mykonos.

10 – GREECE – SPAIN -> I know Spain was visited on the 21st season, but it's my country, i want TAR go there. This time to Canary islands.

11 – SPAIN – PORTUGAL -> Portugal needs a visit.

12 – PORTUGAL – CANADÁ -> The semifinal.

13 – CANADÁ - USA -> The final in Alaska.

I think Africa need more legs too. There are so many countries in this continent are not visited yet.

Please, no more boys team winners. (I don't like Bates and Anthony from 22, sorry! )-**)

I'm so excited for spoiler from the next season, i love this reality show! :hearts:

Well, we all know what is happening in Egypt right now. Cuba, too, is still on the watchlist. Though the Philippines is in the blacklist, I think TAR needs to visit it. I mean, Survivor made two seasons in here. why not TAR? which only visits the country during the exact race maybe in just 2-4 days? Is that FIYI? Or Fiji? I can't tell. Great list, btw.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 30, 2013, 06:52:05 AM
It hasn't been 100% translated from Spanish, so FIYI = Fiji, and also the accent above the last A of Canada.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DrRox on May 30, 2013, 08:41:48 AM
I always have trouble understanding why Monaco was never visited. It is LONG overdue.

Why would TAR want to go to Monaco? What would they do there, even if they went?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scARCYty on May 30, 2013, 08:57:53 AM
It hasn't been 100% translated from Spanish, so FIYI = Fiji, and also the accent above the last A of Canada.

Oh, didn't noticed that. Fiji is amazing! More island countries please!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Platrium on May 30, 2013, 09:05:26 AM
Hi! I'm new here! I usually come here to just check up on amazing race spoilers, and I thought I might as well make an account :)
Haha anyway as tar 23 spec, what's the chance of this season starting or ending in Phoenix, AZ?
Also, as for actual countries visited, I think Poland, Portugal, and the Philippines are definitely up for re-visits, and I think we should keep our eyes peeled for new visits to Monaco & Bahamas.
Thanks!
-Brannockdevice

Same here ;)
I'd also like to see a leg or two there with all 11 teams, since it hasn't been visited since 17 seasons ago. Sad to say but, it's in the travel warning's list.  :'(
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jobby on May 30, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
To add on, I will be in The Philippines from 5th to 18th June! :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Theo on May 30, 2013, 09:19:56 AM
I have strong feeling that it should start by this weekend or next weekend
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scARCYty on May 30, 2013, 09:24:52 AM
Btw, it's Phil's birthday tomorrow.  :conf:  :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 30, 2013, 09:28:07 AM
It would be a nice present if they started filming on his birthday. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scARCYty on May 30, 2013, 09:45:45 AM
It would be. But imagine Phil doing that. He has just arrived from London, and then starts the race at the exact moment.  :iok
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Hooky on May 30, 2013, 10:07:15 AM
Hello, all! An old member here, decided to make a new account after a extended hiatus.

Hi DavidJunior! I remember you. Welcome back! :hello2:

It would be. But imagine Phil doing that. He has just arrived from London, and then starts the race at the exact moment.  :iok

I could see them starting this Saturday. If he wasn't riding a bike in France then he shouldn't get too tired.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: jlim201 on May 30, 2013, 04:00:18 PM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?

Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran

......

 :res:
and even:
North Korea
Syria
Somalia
Libya
Cuba
Mali
Uganda
Rwanda
Burundi

(going into obscurity :lol: )

These are some countries I can find that are dangerous
Congo
Yemen
Nigeria
Algeria
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Bulgaria
All of Rural Colombia
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on May 30, 2013, 05:08:43 PM
My thoughts on Western Europe:

Possibility: Definite
Most people are saying that the Western half of Europe has been way over-used and is need of a rest, at least for one season. Although I do agree that it has been used quite extensively recently- especially the "Big 5" (Spain, France, England, Italy, Germany), I don't believe they are quite finished with the region, nor with featuring at least one of those big names. Let's look at the possibilities:

The U.K. can be ruled out because it was featured heavily last season, and though the country of Ireland wasn't used, the island was, so I'd put my money of that being skipped this year too. Possibility: Unlikely

Germany doesn't seem likely, however, WRP has really enjoyed visiting the country these recent years with 4 visits since season 14 (S14 Leg 2, S16 Leg 4, S20 Leg 5, and S22 Leg 9). This doesn't include the midleg clue in the Hamburg train station while teams were travelling from Denmark to Belgium. I would not be surprised in the slightest if this country still managed to be squeezed in there. Possibility: Unlikely

France seems unlikely since it's been featured quite a few times and has been used as recently as season 21. Possibility: Unlikely

Spain finally got featured again since season 10 and looks open to continue hosting teams, however the fact it was used in season 21 makes me unsure of it being used again already- especially since it took so long to get a revisit originally. I will tack on Portugal to the Spain talk, much like I did with Ireland in the U.K. section. I don't really see where all the Portugal hype is coming from. I think that it could host another leg, but I feel like there are several better options that WRP would look to first before attempting a return visit to the small Iberian nation. Possibility: Outside chance

Alpine Countries: Very Unlikely. Switzerland just used, and Austria has been featured a couple times within the last 10 seasons.

Benelux is another region with a shot of making a return on this season. Personally, I think the Netherlands is the least likely of the three- it looks like they're running out of ideas with using that Switchback with mediocre results. Belgium/Luxembourg are more likely, however, I don't think they're very likely for similar reasons as Spain. I think Belgium was used too recently given the number of previous visits (none), and the fact that they weren't the most successful in design or viewership. Possibility: Outside chance

Scandanvia/Far North: The only one I could maybe see from here is Iceland. I could see them doing a S6-esque opening leg there and continuing on to another European country. However, if they start by heading to Latin America, I would rule Iceland out. Possibility: Likely (Iceland), Unlikely (Scandanavia)

That leaves only one country: Italy
Italy (to me) seems to be the most likely and most obvious answer to where the race will visit this season. Though it was used as recent as S20, that was it's first and only visit since Florence in S12. Outside of Spain, it has been the most underused major country in recent seasons. It's a great country filled with it's own unique culture and several subcultures within. Possibility: Highly Likely. Possible cities/regions:

1. Rome/Vatican City- Way overdue for another visit that actually stays within the city. Hasn't been used at all since season1 and that wasn't even a full leg. The Vatican City is overdue as well, and could house a Route Info, task, or maybe even a pit stop.

2. Naples/Vesuvius/Capri- Great region, beautiful landscapes, and much different from Northern Italian big cities *cough cough* Milan/Turin *cough*

3. Venice- Would look very nice in HD, and is great jumping off point to get to Slovenia/Northern Croatia, which both seem ready for a visit.

4. Sardinia- they've been to Sicily, so why not?

5. Tuscany- with more tasks out in the vineyards or along the countryside

I could see any two of these options make it on for two legs in Italy.

Final thoughts: Look out for Italy, maybe Iceland, and maybe Belgium in Western Europe.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 30, 2013, 06:48:54 PM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?

Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran

......

 :res:
and even:
North Korea
Syria
Somalia
Libya
Cuba
Mali
Uganda
Rwanda
Burundi

(going into obscurity :lol: )

These are some countries I can find that are dangerous
Congo
Yemen
Nigeria
Algeria
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Bulgaria
All of Rural Colombia
Central African Republic
Chad
Niger
Cyprus
Guatemala
El Salvador
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 30, 2013, 07:09:23 PM
Are there any countries we absolutely know or can rule out that will not be visited in tar 23?

Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran

......

 :res:
and even:
North Korea
Syria
Somalia
Libya
Cuba
Mali
Uganda
Rwanda
Burundi

(going into obscurity :lol: )

These are some countries I can find that are dangerous
Congo
Yemen
Nigeria
Algeria
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Bulgaria
All of Rural Colombia
Central African Republic
Chad
Niger
Cyprus
Guatemala
El Salvador

Bulgaria?

How is Bulgaria dangerous?

Cyprus?

How is Cyprus dangerous? I mean, if Portugal can be discussed and Spain can be discussed, why not Cyprus?

Guatemala?

Didn't you go there recently? And I'm guessing your organisation wouldn't actively transport people into dangerous nations.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 30, 2013, 07:32:36 PM
Bertram said Guatemala wasn't feasible to visit.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on May 30, 2013, 08:00:32 PM
In Guatemala we had high security, and were in a safe region. In the major cities, Americans are major crime targets simply because we have a good amount of money compared to them, and the expensive camera equipment would make that target bigger. And Cyprus is in a huge economic struggle, and also has a Greek vs Turkish conflict in the North
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on May 30, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
In Guatemala we had high security, and were in a safe region. In the major cities, Americans are major crime targets simply because we have a good amount of money compared to them, and the expensive camera equipment would make that target bigger. And Cyprus is in a huge economic struggle, and also has a Greek vs Turkish conflict in the North

The Greek vs Turkish is way over stated. Its safer then the Korean border imo.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on May 30, 2013, 08:37:34 PM
In Guatemala we had high security, and were in a safe region. In the major cities, Americans are major crime targets simply because we have a good amount of money compared to them, and the expensive camera equipment would make that target bigger. And Cyprus is in a huge economic struggle, and also has a Greek vs Turkish conflict in the North

The Greek vs Turkish is way over stated. Its safer then the Korean border imo.

It is actually astonishingly safe. It's ultimately like any other controlled border, and there are quite a few. The UN have managed to tone down the hatred between the Greek and Turkish sides of the conflict, and economic problems don't matter either, because Italy and Spain both had massive economic problems and they were visited, so that isn't a viable reason.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: NiceGuy on May 31, 2013, 01:15:39 AM
They should be starting this weekend, correct?  I'm so excited!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 31, 2013, 07:15:35 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on May 31, 2013, 11:57:53 AM
Quick thoughts on Eastern Europe

Possibility: Highly Likely
The region has been glossed over recently and is ready to be revisited.

Likelihood of particular sub-regions (most to least):

1.) Central Europe- It is one of the more politically, socially, and economically stable areas in the Eastern Bloc, so it should be safe and easy for teams to travel to/through there. To me Hungary seems the most likely of the 5 (Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia), with a potentially amazing Switchback task with the spicy soup Roadblock (S6). Slovenia would be next, especially if they go to North-Eastern Italy- its a great country that is also part of the E.U. and would be a new country. Poland is a maybe in my book; of the remaining two, I would put a Slovakian visit as more likely than a return to the Czech Rep.

2.) Balkan Peninsula- Not as strong infrastructure as Central Europe, but several locations can still feasibly host a leg. Montenegro, Croatia, and even Bosnia are the most likely bets for a leg from here. Romania, I don't think will get a return any time soon, Albania and Macedonia are probably too small and forgettable to most viewers for WRP to consider them, and there has been some recent civil unrest in Greece and Bulgaria which might make production a little cautious about traveling there (otherwise, those two are great options as well). Serbia is the least likely to me, especially with the whole Kosovo situation- don't want to go somewhere that's the middle of a very heated and touchy political subject and step on anyone's toes, again (the Hanoi debacle).

3.) Baltic States- Latvia seems most likely since it's the only one to not have been visited. Finland would be next, since it seems the most likely to host another leg or two. I really don't ever expect a return to Estonia or Lithuania. Overall, I don't think this region is likely to make it on this season.

4.) Russia and the Former Soviets- Russia just got a visit in S21, so don't really expect it again yet (except maybe some cities in the Far East). Ukraine could likely host a few legs, but I don't think it will yet. Belarus and Moldova don't seem super feasible yet either, IMO. Overall, I think the fact that this general region has little to no political relationships with the EU may hinder travel to them a little bit. It's much easier and less expensive to travel through the EU, than bounce around between it and non-EU members (obviously this hasn't stopped the race before, but it is a factor, even if it's slight). Infrastructure isn't good in some of these.

Final thoughts: SOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUP
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: selkie on May 31, 2013, 11:58:44 AM
TAR: Original Recipe is very conservative in its country selection. We haven't even gotten Israel when, IIRC, TAR:Australia has gone there.

On the flip side, they've never had to get evacuated from a country by US Marines while filming like Anthony Bourdain has. (Related topic- catch his Libya episode next time it shows up on CNN- it's a really excellent look at that country post-Gadaffi)

I also think that Cuba is out for political reasons, given the fuss we had over content of the Vietnam leg last season. It would be nice to see a Miami or Texas start though that would give us a Caribbean/Central American/South American first country that's a bit off the beaten path. How about a Trinidad or Suriname?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on May 31, 2013, 05:11:01 PM
@vepmes

Just saw a @newhot899 Race to the Altar couple tied together running past. How exciting!! Looks like the Amazing Race lol
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: MrDeerShank on May 31, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
@vepmes

Just saw a @newhot899 Race to the Altar couple tied together running past. How exciting!! Looks like the Amazing Race lol

@newhot899 is a Twitter for a radio station so very unlikely it's the real thing
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on May 31, 2013, 08:47:34 PM
It's not. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: NiceGuy on June 01, 2013, 12:07:10 AM
Nope.

oh lol sorry.  Bummer, I was ready to see some pix!  :hoot:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 01, 2013, 12:07:45 AM
Me too!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 01, 2013, 12:34:40 AM
I know it says no dream routes,  but I have to!

Leg 1: Phoenix, AZ, USA (Home town respect, but it'll probably be LA) > Nassau, Bahamas (I know Bora Bora was just visited, but this place NEEDS to be visited!)

Leg 2: Nassau, Bahamas > Quito, Ecuador (Quito city leg)
 
Leg 3: Quito, Ecuador > Napo Province, Ecuador (Amazon leg)

Leg 4: Napo Province, Ecuador > Lisbon, Portugal (Lisbon city leg)

Leg 5: Lisbon, Portugal > either Malta, Monaco, or Sardinia (this region is way underused)

Leg 6: either Malta, Monaco, or Sardinia > Krakow, Poland (Krakow city leg)

Leg 7: Krakow, Poland > surrounding Polish countryside, Poland (possibly copy from the Australian or Israeli tars)

Leg 8: Polish countryside, Poland > Astana, Kazakhstan (this proves my point of how awesome this place is: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/02/astana/ludwig-photography)

Leg 9: Astana, Kazakhstan --> Yangon, Myanmar (Myanmar needs to be visited)

Leg 10: this leg will either be a second leg in Myanmar or the first leg in China

Leg 11: southern China (not Guilin, but other really cool places like Zhangjiajie or Wulong County)

Leg 12: southern China --> Seattle, WA, USA
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: WinTar on June 01, 2013, 12:35:49 AM
I know it says no dream routes,  but I have to!

Leg 1: Phoenix, AZ, USA (Home town respect, but it'll probably be LA) > Nassau, Bahamas (I know Bora Bora was just visited, but this place NEEDS to be visited!)

Leg 2: Nassau, Bahamas > Quito, Ecuador (Quito city leg)
 
Leg 3: Quito, Ecuador > Napo Province, Ecuador (Amazon leg)

Leg 4: Napo Province, Ecuador > Lisbon, Portugal (Lisbon city leg)

Leg 5: Lisbon, Portugal > either Malta, Monaco, or Sardinia (this region is way underused)

Leg 6: either Malta, Monaco, or Sardinia > Krakow, Poland (Krakow city leg)

Leg 7: Krakow, Poland > surrounding Polish countryside, Poland (possibly copy from the Australian or Israeli tars)

Leg 8: Polish countryside, Poland > Astana, Kazakhstan (this proves my point of how awesome this place is: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/02/astana/ludwig-photography)

Leg 9: Astana, Kazakhstan --> Yangon, Myanmar (Myanmar needs to be visited)

Leg 10: this leg will either be a second leg in Myanmar or the first leg in China

Leg 11: southern China (not Guilin, but other really cool places like Zhangjiajie or Wulong County)

Leg 12: southern China --> Seattle, WA, USA
Post it on the wishlist thread in the Discussion board. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 01, 2013, 12:37:22 AM
Great route! There is a wishlist thread here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.1625.html in case you want to make more in the future. You're new here, so it's alright.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 01, 2013, 12:39:07 AM
Great route! There is a wishlist thread here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.1625.html in case you want to make more in the future. You're new here, so it's alright.

Thanks! Sorry, I'll do that in the future next time :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on June 01, 2013, 01:39:18 AM
Africa, Africa, Africa

Keeping it really short:

Possibility: Unlikely
Been used a lot recently, producers will most likely want to rest it to avoid it becoming too repetitive/dull

Only way is if they use unique cultures/regions, like:

1.) Ethiopia- It's East Africa, which has been used a lot recently (Seychelles S16, Malawi S19, Tanzania S20), but it's ETHIOPIA. It's a culture and a people all it's own. A revisit has been long overdue.

2.) Western Central Africa- Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Rep. of Congo could all see visits. It could be the Africa that we know and love, but with a more tropical/jungle-y twist.

3.) South Africa and either Lesotho or Swaziland- The only way this will work is if they don't do the typical "we're in Africa, let's look at the poverty and the people who still live in huts! Oh, and ANIMALS!" kind of visit. More metropolitan stuff, more extreme things (world's highest bungy in Port Elizabeth), more music and culture.

Final thought: Don't be surprised if we don't see Africa this season, or maybe even next, but still keep an eye out.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 02, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
Africa, Africa, Africa

Keeping it really short:

Possibility: Unlikely
Been used a lot recently, producers will most likely want to rest it to avoid it becoming too repetitive/dull

Only way is if they use unique cultures/regions, like:

1.) Ethiopia- It's East Africa, which has been used a lot recently (Seychelles S16, Malawi S19, Tanzania S20), but it's ETHIOPIA. It's a culture and a people all it's own. A revisit has been long overdue.

2.) Western Central Africa- Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Rep. of Congo could all see visits. It could be the Africa that we know and love, but with a more tropical/jungle-y twist.

3.) South Africa and either Lesotho or Swaziland- The only way this will work is if they don't do the typical "we're in Africa, let's look at the poverty and the people who still live in huts! Oh, and ANIMALS!" kind of visit. More metropolitan stuff, more extreme things (world's highest bungy in Port Elizabeth), more music and culture.

Final thought: Don't be surprised if we don't see Africa this season, or maybe even next, but still keep an eye out.

What about north Africa (mainly Morocco)?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on June 03, 2013, 10:00:47 AM
Africa, Africa, Africa

Keeping it really short:

Possibility: Unlikely
Been used a lot recently, producers will most likely want to rest it to avoid it becoming too repetitive/dull

Only way is if they use unique cultures/regions, like:

1.) Ethiopia- It's East Africa, which has been used a lot recently (Seychelles S16, Malawi S19, Tanzania S20), but it's ETHIOPIA. It's a culture and a people all it's own. A revisit has been long overdue.

2.) Western Central Africa- Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Rep. of Congo could all see visits. It could be the Africa that we know and love, but with a more tropical/jungle-y twist.

3.) South Africa and either Lesotho or Swaziland- The only way this will work is if they don't do the typical "we're in Africa, let's look at the poverty and the people who still live in huts! Oh, and ANIMALS!" kind of visit. More metropolitan stuff, more extreme things (world's highest bungy in Port Elizabeth), more music and culture.

Final thought: Don't be surprised if we don't see Africa this season, or maybe even next, but still keep an eye out.

What about north Africa (mainly Morocco)?

I personally feel that WRP considers the area to be off limits, though I agree that Morocco will likely be the first one they return to (just not this season).
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 05, 2013, 03:59:08 PM
Ugh when will it start?  :tantrum
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on June 05, 2013, 05:11:28 PM
I am predicting a 4 continent season.
3-4 legs in South America
3-4 legs in Europe
3-4 legs in Asia
1 leg in north america
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on June 05, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
I would expect this season will be Asia dominated this year (even though I dislike it) because of Season 22 only spending 2 legs in Asia and they typically almost always have three legs in Asia.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 05, 2013, 05:44:31 PM
I am predicting a 4 continent season.
3-4 legs in South America
3-4 legs in Europe
3-4 legs in Asia
1 leg in north america

I agree with this apart from maybe 2 legs in NA and 1 less leg in Europe
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Belle Book on June 05, 2013, 06:12:25 PM
Ugh when will it start?  :tantrum

Part of me feels the same way, but I'm not throwing a tantrum because of impatience!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on June 06, 2013, 11:11:53 AM
NEW POST on FACEBOOK from Ryan:

Ryan Danz

someone on World Race Production just reached out and jokingly asked if I needed them to find my lost watch back from Leg 2 in Indonesia ...

In other words, the next season of Amazing Race just kicked off today ... as in, teams are wheels up, destinations known to only a select few, and 22 people about to embark on an experience of a lifetime that only those that have raced before them will ever truly understand. Best of luck and looking forward to seeing their journey play out on screen.
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Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on June 06, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
TODAY?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Theo on June 06, 2013, 11:20:07 AM
that's really interesting, I guess?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Theo on June 06, 2013, 11:20:26 AM
If that's true, thats interesting, specially with the part wrp asked Ryan if they need to take Ryan's watch in Indonesia? An Indonesia visit? Lol, I hope no.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Declive on June 06, 2013, 11:24:34 AM
Yeah , i don't think they started today. And OH SHUT UP for an Indonesian first leg.  :res:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Kamineko on June 06, 2013, 11:28:55 AM
Yeah , i don't think they started today. And OH SHUT UP for an Indonesian first leg.  :res:
Please not another early Indonesian leg if they're going back... Although it highly won't happen... :res:
Because if they're going to Indonesia right now, especially in Jakarta, I'll be devastated because I'm in my final exam week! :groan:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: north09 on June 06, 2013, 11:54:56 AM
If it had started today, there would be at least one tweet about it. I don't believe it. Maybe they mean this weekend.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: kiki on June 06, 2013, 01:37:42 PM
I think he may imply that the teams have reached the start city and are sequestered.
Does anybody know how many days before the beginning the teams in general arrive at the start city?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 06, 2013, 03:14:51 PM
Deep breaths everyone. :lol:

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ZouLy on June 06, 2013, 04:53:30 PM

Here's what Phil has been doing in approx. 2 days ago :

He posted a couple pics without telling where the location was... It was on sunset time..



(http://i.imgur.com/vo1o9he.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/IkR6r7J.jpg)

Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Alvi18 on June 06, 2013, 05:32:16 PM
I hope they visit Bangladesh again and this time I can catch them on the streets :P They treat Bangladesh like India and the tough African countries, they only go to the non-beautiful locations and give them very hard tasks. I am predicting this time there's gonna be 2-3 legs in South America and may focus a bit on North America too. Maybe,
 
Leg1: Florida-Mexico
Leg2: Mexico
Leg3: Mexico-Uruguay
Leg4: Uruguay-Morocco
Leg5: Morocco-Czech Republic
Leg6: Czech Republic-Slovakia/Poland
Leg7: Slovakia/Poland
Leg8: Slovakia/Poland-Belarus/Ukraine
Leg9: Belarus/Ukraine-Nepal-Bhutan
Leg10: Bhutan-Philippines
Leg11: Philippines-Canada (Why don't they visit Canada???)
Leg12: Canada-Seattle(USA)/San-Francisco(USA)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Alvi18 on June 06, 2013, 05:35:56 PM
Yeah , i don't think they started today. And OH SHUT UP for an Indonesian first leg.  :res:
Please not another early Indonesian leg if they're going back... Although it highly won't happen... :res:
Because if they're going to Indonesia right now, especially in Jakarta, I'll be devastated because I'm in my final exam week! :groan:

PLEASE NO MORE INDONESIA! There are more than 150 countries in the world!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on June 06, 2013, 06:18:42 PM
I hope they visit Bangladesh again and this time I can catch them on the streets :P They treat Bangladesh like India and the tough African countries, they only go to the non-beautiful locations and give them very hard tasks. I am predicting this time there's gonna be 2-3 legs in South America and may focus a bit on North America too. Maybe,
 
Leg1: Florida-Mexico
Leg2: Mexico
Leg3: Mexico-Uruguay
Leg4: Uruguay-Morocco
Leg5: Morocco-Czech Republic
Leg6: Czech Republic-Slovakia/Poland
Leg7: Slovakia/Poland
Leg8: Slovakia/Poland-Belarus/Ukraine
Leg9: Belarus/Ukraine-Nepal-Bhutan
Leg10: Bhutan-Philippines
Leg11: Philippines-Canada (Why don't they visit Canada???)
Leg12: Canada-Seattle(USA)/San-Francisco(USA)

I really doubt they would visit both Mexico and Canada in the same season.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Alvi18 on June 06, 2013, 06:31:54 PM
I hope they visit Bangladesh again and this time I can catch them on the streets :P They treat Bangladesh like India and the tough African countries, they only go to the non-beautiful locations and give them very hard tasks. I am predicting this time there's gonna be 2-3 legs in South America and may focus a bit on North America too. Maybe,
 
Leg1: Florida-Mexico
Leg2: Mexico
Leg3: Mexico-Uruguay
Leg4: Uruguay-Morocco
Leg5: Morocco-Czech Republic
Leg6: Czech Republic-Slovakia/Poland
Leg7: Slovakia/Poland
Leg8: Slovakia/Poland-Belarus/Ukraine
Leg9: Belarus/Ukraine-Nepal-Bhutan
Leg10: Bhutan-Philippines
Leg11: Philippines-Canada (Why don't they visit Canada???)
Leg12: Canada-Seattle(USA)/San-Francisco(USA)

I really doubt they would visit both Mexico and Canada in the same season.

Yh me 2 :P but this season can be called The Amazing Race:America Rules u know highlighting North and South America like crazy.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Daniel on June 06, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
LOL at the possibility of another Indonesian leg. Remember before season 19 when people complained about Indonesia not getting any legs yet but now it's getting way too overused? :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 06, 2013, 11:35:52 PM

Here's what Phil has been doing in approx. 2 days ago :

He posted a couple pics without telling where the location was... It was on sunset time..



(http://i.imgur.com/vo1o9he.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/IkR6r7J.jpg)
To me, it looks like Long Beach, California (hopefully not another LA County start) or SoBe of Miami. If those are mountains in the background instead of clouds, then I'm clueless. lol

But it looks like his bike tour to me.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 06, 2013, 11:54:27 PM
:welcome: to RFF Alvi18!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 07, 2013, 12:23:56 AM

Here's what Phil has been doing in approx. 2 days ago :

He posted a couple pics without telling where the location was... It was on sunset time..



(http://i.imgur.com/vo1o9he.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/IkR6r7J.jpg)

What does the writing in the top picture say? And is there an ocean in the background in the bottom picture? If not, it looks a lot like Phoenix
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
I think the lower one was posted as a "glad to be home" one...so prob near his home. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 07, 2013, 12:33:40 AM
I think the lower one was posted as a "glad to be home" one...so prob near his home. :)

Oh haha so probably not Phoenix  :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on June 07, 2013, 02:09:38 AM
I LIVE IN LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: apskip on June 07, 2013, 02:54:56 AM
How about from the perspective of Newport Beach CA looking across the water to the mountain on top of Catalina Island 28 miles out to sea?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: WinTar on June 07, 2013, 03:07:32 AM
I think it's Venice Beach in LA. :duno:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: topaz on June 07, 2013, 04:49:23 AM
what about San Diego, CA or somewhere in Texas and they drove down to Mexico instead of flying on the airplane?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Alvi18 on June 07, 2013, 04:54:16 AM
:welcome: to RFF Alvi18!!

 Thanks :) I am one of the biggest fans of the race.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on June 07, 2013, 05:22:52 AM
:welcome: to RFF Alvi18!!

 Thanks :) I am one of the biggest fans of the race.

Lol. So you came to the right place to find more people like you. <3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on June 07, 2013, 06:03:03 AM
Yeah , i don't think they started today. And OH SHUT UP for an Indonesian first leg.  :res:
Please not another early Indonesian leg if they're going back... Although it highly won't happen... :res:
Because if they're going to Indonesia right now, especially in Jakarta, I'll be devastated because I'm in my final exam week! :groan:

PLEASE NO MORE INDONESIA! There are more than 150 countries in the world!

LOL... i don't think they will visit Indonesia  for 3 consecutive seasons. i don't like that, although i'm Indonesian  :) :) :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Sukhumvit road on June 07, 2013, 09:32:25 AM
About Europe, I think that the Western Europe is way overused in recent seasons. So, I think they'll go either north (Finland/Norway), south (Greece/Malta), or east (Latvia/Ukraine/Romania).

Finland/Norway is Western Europe
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on June 07, 2013, 09:35:23 AM
About Europe, I think that the Western Europe is way overused in recent seasons. So, I think they'll go either north (Finland/Norway), south (Greece/Malta), or east (Latvia/Ukraine/Romania).

Finland/Norway is Western Europe

They're in Scandinavia = Northern Europe.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: mjriches2005 on June 07, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
The bottom picture appears to be the sun setting behind what looks like mountains.  It can't be on the California coast, so it has to be either east of the mountains of Los Angeles or it could be in Las Vegas.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on June 07, 2013, 11:38:22 AM
Western Asia (including the Indian Subcontinent):

Probability: Near Definite

Middle East
Probability: Likely
Though the region was hit nearly as hard as North Africa was during the Arab Spring, many countries were able to dodge the political and civil turmoil of that Season. Countries like Bahrain, Qatar, and U.A.E. suffered little to no problems. More countries still have since become stable and safe again (Jordan and Oman), and could easily constitute visits as well. The Caucus States (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan) probably will not receive a visit for the next few seasons, and the same for Turkey. Israel, I will say time and again is more feasible than people let on. Now with the Arab Spring in the past, and at very least one other Race franchise racing there with little to no problems, its all the more likely that this will be a location soon (prob not this year tho)

Central Asia
Probability: Possible
This is one region that I believe will receive a surprise visit in the very near future (similar to Azerbaijan in S20). Whether it's a return to Kazakhstan, or a visit to Uzbekistan, it will be a great look at region that too often gets overlooked.

South Asia
Probability: Highly Likely
India is one of the race's "Old Faithfuls." Time and again they take contestants there, and it still produces some of the most profound, emotional, and exciting legs of each of the seasons that it's featured. Although I know that there are many different cultures within India, let alone each of the surrounding nations within the region, the average American viewer most likely does not- so, places like Bangladesh (not likely due to visit in S21), and Sri Lanka are nearly completely interchangeable with India. One of the three is bound to be featured this season. Nepal and Maldives could also host a leg or two each, as well. Those two may be featured sooner than we all think.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on June 07, 2013, 11:42:10 AM
The bottom picture appears to be the sun setting behind what looks like mountains.  It can't be on the California coast, so it has to be either east of the mountains of Los Angeles or it could be in Las Vegas.

I live in California- definitely plenty of mountainous terrain that comes right up near the coastline (look at CA Hwy 1 for an idea), so its definitely feasible to have a picture at a beach with mountains in the background... and it almost certainly looks like a beach, at least to me...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 07, 2013, 02:09:21 PM
When I move to California I promise to do some Amazing Race stalking for us lol.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2013, 02:20:57 PM
Gloucester would have been good. LOL
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 07, 2013, 02:29:21 PM
That was before I discovered RFF. But hopefully they return to Boston for a finale sometime.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on June 07, 2013, 04:44:27 PM
I can see a load of legs in Asia, tbh.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Hinagiku on June 07, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
How about from the perspective of Newport Beach CA looking across the water to the mountain on top of Catalina Island 28 miles out to sea?
This seems highly unlikely from my personal experience. Every beach I have visited in Los Angeles urban area in California, you can either barely see Catalina, or can't see it at all, not to mention it's often foggy in some cases.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on June 07, 2013, 09:09:21 PM
Western Asia (including the Indian Subcontinent):

Probability: Near Definite

Middle East
Probability: Likely
Though the region was hit nearly as hard as North Africa was during the Arab Spring, many countries were able to dodge the political and civil turmoil of that Season. Countries like Bahrain, Qatar, and U.A.E. suffered little to no problems. More countries still have since become stable and safe again (Jordan and Oman), and could easily constitute visits as well. The Caucus States (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan) probably will not receive a visit for the next few seasons, and the same for Turkey. Israel, I will say time and again is more feasible than people let on. Now with the Arab Spring in the past, and at very least one other Race franchise racing there with little to no problems, its all the more likely that this will be a location soon (prob not this year tho)


Bahrain is out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahraini_uprising_%282011%E2%80%93present%29
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 07, 2013, 09:19:43 PM
Western Asia (including the Indian Subcontinent):

Probability: Near Definite

Middle East
Probability: Likely
Though the region was hit nearly as hard as North Africa was during the Arab Spring, many countries were able to dodge the political and civil turmoil of that Season. Countries like Bahrain, Qatar, and U.A.E. suffered little to no problems. More countries still have since become stable and safe again (Jordan and Oman), and could easily constitute visits as well. The Caucus States (Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan) probably will not receive a visit for the next few seasons, and the same for Turkey. Israel, I will say time and again is more feasible than people let on. Now with the Arab Spring in the past, and at very least one other Race franchise racing there with little to no problems, its all the more likely that this will be a location soon (prob not this year tho)

Central Asia
Probability: Possible
This is one region that I believe will receive a surprise visit in the very near future (similar to Azerbaijan in S20). Whether it's a return to Kazakhstan, or a visit to Uzbekistan, it will be a great look at region that too often gets overlooked.

South Asia
Probability: Highly Likely
India is one of the race's "Old Faithfuls." Time and again they take contestants there, and it still produces some of the most profound, emotional, and exciting legs of each of the seasons that it's featured. Although I know that there are many different cultures within India, let alone each of the surrounding nations within the region, the average American viewer most likely does not- so, places like Bangladesh (not likely due to visit in S21), and Sri Lanka are nearly completely interchangeable with India. One of the three is bound to be featured this season. Nepal and Maldives could also host a leg or two each, as well. Those two may be featured sooner than we all think.

You. Are. My. HERO! Finally someone agrees that Kazakhstan should be visited! I would be so elated if they went to the capital city of Astana! Just go to http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/02/astana/ludwig-photography
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 07, 2013, 09:59:34 PM
I agree with Kazakhstan. Also I would love Uzbekistan.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on June 07, 2013, 10:00:27 PM
Uzbekistan I'd think would be off the list because there's a sort of dictator there who isn't on the best terms with the US.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 07, 2013, 10:05:41 PM
Thats's too bad. It seems like a cool place, with lots of ancient historical stuff
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Air on June 07, 2013, 10:06:46 PM
Samarkand <3

I wanna see Samarkand and do some Tamerlane the Great related tasks <3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 07, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
That would be a legendary leg! Like one of the top 5 of Amazing Race history!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 07, 2013, 11:49:49 PM
Everyone is ready for TAR 23, right?? :hearts:

But...WAIT!! Are you REALLY ready??

Have you read and reread the LIVE feed tips and rules? If not, do it NOW!!
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28799.msg875263.html#msg875263 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28799.msg875263.html#msg875263)

Do you know what RFF will and won't reveal PRE -start??

Do you know how to search Twitter and Facebook and Instagram/Flickr/etc for info/pics?
Do you know how to SHARE that info here? Can you post and label a picture? If not, NOW is the time to learn!! Lots of info in the support thread!
 
Can you search for flights? (Redwings' games taught me how!!)

Do you know how to reach me if WHEN  :lol: my inbox is full?? Do I care what time it is if you have news?
 
IF TAR comes to your neighborhood, are you ready? Camera charged and WITH you? Extra phone battery or charger with you at all times? Have you teamed up with a buddy and learned the fastest way to your closest airport/train station/bus station??
 
You have a LITTLE time to get ready...so ALL you TAR-lovers, we are counting on you!!
 
 :ghug:
 
 
 


 
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Theo on June 08, 2013, 12:11:28 AM
OMG!!!! <3<3<3<3<3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 08, 2013, 12:35:01 AM
So excited to wait!!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on June 08, 2013, 01:53:26 AM
Gah! Final thoughts and predictions:

Eastern Asia:
Probability: Definite

China
Probability: Likely
Although I wouldn't be surprised if it got featured, I personally don't get a "WE'RE GOING TO CHINA AGAIN THIS SEASON!" vibe. There isn't much to base this off of, just a gut feeling- a hunch, if you will.

Eastern/Northern Asia
Probability: Likely
South Korea, despite the ever present 'threat' posed by their Northern neighbors, would rank high on my list from this general area. Japan, is very possible too. Would love to see Eastern Russia (Irkutsk, Lake Bikal, Vladivostok, etc.) featured, or a return to Mongolia, but my bet is that they're not in the cards for this season.

South East Asia
Probability: Duh!
With the general pattern that there is, I would not be surprised if there was yet another Thailand *cough cough* Bangkok *cough* visit (Hopefully this time with Laos)... Is Myanmar ready for a visit yet? I would start to lean towards no, personally... Malaysia/Singapore haven't been visited in a while, nor has Hong Kong/Macau. Taiwan doesn't seem likely as of yet (visited in S19). NO. INDONESIA. KTHNXBAI. And finally, the Philippines- Brunei and East Timor will def not get a leg, Cambodia doesn't seem exciting enough comparatively- I believe that the Philippines will definitely get a visit somewhere in the next three seasons (whether it's this one or not, we will soon find out).

South Pacific
Probability: Unlikely
Only country I can really see is Australia- Melbourne and Tasmania, to be exact. Papua New Guinea may have a really outside chance, but with 3 legs in Oceania last season (two of which were on tropical, Polynesian Islands), I really can't see much else from here being featured quite this season.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Parovic on June 08, 2013, 02:33:52 AM
Europe:
Britain-low possibility
Eastern(Bulgaria)-high
Czech Republic,Hungary,Germany,Austria(low)-Serious flood and rainfall
Portugal-high
Finland-high

Asia:
China-low
Phillipines,Laos-high
Malaysia(Sabah)-relatively high
Nepal-high
Middle East-low
Armenia-Not really

South America
Guyana-low
Brazil-high
Argentina-relatively low
Ecuador-high

South Pacific
Not really

Africa
Tanzania-I do not prefer this
Gabon-Maybe

There are some cities that probably become the first destination:
Rio de Janeiro
Seoul
Paris
Sydney
Hong Kong






Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 08, 2013, 03:51:47 AM
Europe:
Britain-low possibility
Eastern(Bulgaria)-high
Czech Republic,Hungary,Germany,Austria(low)-Serious flood and rainfall
Portugal-high
Finland-high

Asia:
China-low
Phillipines,Laos-high
Malaysia(Sabah)-relatively high
Nepal-high
Middle East-low
Armenia-Not really

South America
Guyana-low
Brazil-high
Argentina-relatively low
Ecuador-high

South Pacific
Not really

Africa
Tanzania-I do not prefer this
Gabon-Maybe

There are some cities that probably become the first destination:
Rio de Janeiro
Seoul
Paris
Sydney
Hong Kong

Britain is out and we've already visited last season, as so is Paris.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on June 08, 2013, 04:31:35 AM
I can see a load of legs in Europe and Asia, tbh.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: NiceGuy on June 08, 2013, 07:17:31 AM
Soooo excited to see the first pix of the new cast!!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Don Task on June 08, 2013, 08:45:38 AM
Czech Republic,Hungary,Germany,Austria(low)-Serious flood and rainfall

Hi, I am from the Czech Republic and I can confirm that there are some serious floods... but only in certain regions. Prague, Central & North & South Bohemia are most affected. The same is with German/Slovakian/Austrian/Hungarian regions.

"It's like - there are some floods in Florida, don't travel to New York, it's dangerous."  ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on June 08, 2013, 12:03:42 PM
I can see a load of legs in Europe and Asia, tbh.

Didn't they spend like almost half of 22 in Europe? Well, yeah I still expect Europe but not as much.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on June 08, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
I can see a load of legs in Europe and Asia, tbh.

Didn't they spend like almost half of 22 in Europe? Well, yeah I still expect Europe but not as much.

4 out of 12 legs, yeah, I would think a little less, maybe 3 Europe Legs, 5-6 Asia LEgs
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: David on June 08, 2013, 04:16:53 PM
What I meant is that South America could have 3 legs, and with recent visits to Africa and Oceania (S22), the rest will surely be in Europe and Asia.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: docol on June 08, 2013, 05:59:45 PM
so, no race again today?  :'(
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Amazingracer on June 08, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
so, no race again today?  :'(

Still holding out. I can recall a west coast start where the first siting didn't appear until 10/11 Eastern.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: DavidJunior on June 08, 2013, 06:23:04 PM
Here's my (semi-)short list of countries I believe are most likely to be featured:
Americas:
Dominican Republic
Ecuador
Peru
Bolivia
Brazil

Europe:
Italy
Belgium
Iceland
Poland
Hungary (still)
Bulgaria

Africa:
Ethiopia
South Africa+ (a big stretch tho)

Asia:
Qatar
India
Sri Lanka
South Korea
Thailand/Laos
Malaysia/Singapore
Philippines

Oceania:
Australia only
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Amazingracer on June 08, 2013, 06:38:55 PM
Seems like everyone's doing it, so here are my predictions:

America's:
Ecuador
Bahamas
Dominican Republic
Brazil
Uruguay
Chile

Europe:
Iceland
Poland
Finland
Italy
Ukraine
Bulgaria

Africa:
If it has to be anywhere, it'd be South Africa or Angola.

Asia:
India & China (because it wouldn't be the amazing race without them)
Sri Lanka
Maldives
Nepal
Qatar
Kazakhstan
Mongolia
South Korea
Philippines
Laos

No Oceania expected, but Australia has an outside chance.
Most of the locales of tar 23 should be in there.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: MrDeerShank on June 08, 2013, 06:39:47 PM
South Korea is more than likely a big no-no with the whole North Korea thing.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 08, 2013, 06:57:07 PM
North America:
Canada
Dominican Republic
Jamaica

South America:
Brazil

Europe:
Scandanavia
Portugal
Italy

Africa: none

Asia:
UAE
Oman
India  :res:
Malaysia
Singapore
Thailand
Cambodia

Oceania:
Australia
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: SamualDude on June 08, 2013, 07:40:34 PM
At this point I think we can rule out Turkey being visited this season.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: themikko95 on June 08, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
Spec: Another set of female twins?  :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Charlie90 on June 08, 2013, 11:00:29 PM
How about Mexico? The situation here is a lot better than it used to be a couple of years ago...
Besides, since Latin America most likely will be featured in this race, i think they should leave those legs for the last part of the race instead of featuring them in the beginning like they almost always do.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 08, 2013, 11:03:01 PM
Spec: Another set of female twins?  :lol3:
Oh, please no! After the quitters, Twinnies, Elliot & Andrew, and the blondies, I'm tired of twins. Maybe an interesting pair of sisters with Mary & Peach personalities would be most likely at this point.

For some reason, I sense an all-granny team this season! :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Bwils927 on June 08, 2013, 11:05:23 PM
Elliot & Andrew were great. Twinnies <///////////////////////////3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on June 08, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
PANAMA OR COSTA RICA OR EVEN GUATEMALA  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:


How about Nicaragua ??? 
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Platrium on June 08, 2013, 11:34:12 PM
PANAMA OR COSTA RICA OR EVEN GUATEMALA  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:


How about Nicaragua ???

And if it's Panama or Costa Rica, I think there could be a switchback. :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Leafsfan on June 08, 2013, 11:39:24 PM
Na Na <3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scott14 on June 09, 2013, 08:38:05 AM
Long time lurker so thought it time I should join.

My thoughts on a possible route.

South America – 3-4 legs at the start
A visit is very likely after being skipped the last two seasons. Brazil hasn’t been visited since S18, and can provide a more rural and large city leg. See this combined with revisits to two other countries probably Peru and Uruguay who haven’t been visited since S7 and S5.

Europe - 4-5 legs in the middle of the race.
Have seen recent visits to Germany, France, UK, Spain and Italy so think we will see a return to Scandinavia. Iceland as a first leg like S6 could be a possibility followed by visits to either Sweden, Norway and Finland. Portugal may provide the first destination if travelling from South America and Russia has so many possibilities a trip there and onward to Asia could occur.
For new countries in Europe I can see a visit to the Balkans to include a return visit to Croatia but also first time visits to Slovenia and Bulgaria. Turkey and Greece unlikely due to recent conflicts and financial instability.

Africa
Very unlikely after visits to Malawi, Tanzania and Botswana in last 4 seasons.

Asia - See 4-5 legs at end of the race.
Certainty for a visit. After problems in India a visit to China or Japan I believe is very likely either as the first or last destination. After the controversy in Vietnam and  consecutive visits to Indonesia these two are very unlikely. I can see an avoidance of the middle east and gulf states.
To balance out visits to China/Japan will expect a different Asian climate to be selected so a visit to Sri Lanka/Mongolia/Philippines will occur as they haven’t been visited since S6,S10,S5.

Oceania
After last seasons visit to Bora Bora and New Zealand very unlikely.

Overall:
Los Angeles, Peru, Uruguay, Brazil, Portugal, (Croatia and Slovenia or Norway and Sweden), Sri Lanka, Philippines and China/Japan, Texas Finish Line.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Alenaveda on June 09, 2013, 08:44:54 AM
scott14,  :hello2:.  :bigwelcome to the R.F.F.!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: foreverhoping on June 09, 2013, 08:53:13 AM
Today is the day!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: scott14 on June 09, 2013, 09:00:33 AM
Thanks Alenaveda :)

Some quick cast predictions as well. I really liked the cast of S22 where jobs more than relationships seemed to be the focus. I can see this continuing with only a few couples/dating teams and concentrating on teams with shared professions or hobbies as well as family teams after the early loss of Dave and Connor last time. After a M/M team winning last two seasons , predict more novelty M/M teams and a focus on F/F teams.

4 M/F: Young dating, Married retirees, Magician and Assistant, Fashion Designer Friends,
4 F/F: Gymnasts, Sisters from Queens, Mother/Daughter, Surfer Chicks
3 M/M: DJ’s, Single Parent Friends, Bodybuilders
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 09, 2013, 09:13:20 AM
We have a prediction/wishlist thread...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: jlim201 on June 09, 2013, 09:46:48 AM
When does filming start, if anyone knows?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Belle Book on June 09, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
When does filming start, if anyone knows?

If it's in L.A., then they're probably about to start filming soon as it's 8:18 there!  If not -- it might already be filming.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: apskip on June 09, 2013, 10:40:19 AM
Today is the day!
foreverhoping,
I hope you're right, but what is the basis for your statement?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: docol on June 09, 2013, 11:16:35 AM
Has the race started???
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 09, 2013, 11:43:23 AM
Has the race started???

Not yet! But soon. ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Loken on June 18, 2013, 03:09:14 AM
i think no philippines as its on the warning list
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: Jimmer on June 18, 2013, 08:15:14 AM
If you read the actual warning, it's only for certain regions in Southern Philippines. Legs in Manila or other regions in northern Philippines are totally safe.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 23 speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on June 18, 2013, 09:05:42 AM
SInce we are no longer PRE TAR 23, please use the spec threads for any current discussions?

Will try leaving this open in case we need to re-visit any of our pre-23 discussion ONLY.

Thanks!