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Title: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2013, 03:54:30 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2013, 03:55:03 PM
Please no posting here until after 745 PM! Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 17, 2013, 06:52:26 PM
Happy TAR day and a good show for everyone!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 06:56:04 PM
Can't wait! :hoot: :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
Happy St. Patrick's Day! :paddy: Looking forward to a great show.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 17, 2013, 06:57:44 PM
Looking forward for tonight! :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:01:50 PM
Previously on The Amazing Race...

Dave decided to continue racing. Meghan & Joey, John & Jessica and Mona & Beth have an alliance.

John was feeling comfortable having the EP. After a mistake going to a "detour" which turned out to be a random person's house, and then failing at the detour, they made history by getting eliminated with an EP.

Dave & Connor won their 2nd leg in a row but their future is still uncertain...

8 teams remain. Who will be eliminated next?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:07:00 PM
Max and Katie obviously don't know John/Jessica were eliminated but they are looking forward to the Uturn. They agree with Pam and Winnie to not Uturn each other
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 17, 2013, 07:08:05 PM
PAM & WINNIE: Just rolling by...
 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
I'm getting very good at predicting the last team shown before the intro credits but not much else. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:08:14 PM
Pit start: Cliffs at the end of the southern peninsula of Bali.

Dave & Connor depart 1st at 5:01 AM. Fly to Hanoi, Vietman. Then proceed to Rap Cong Nhan Theater inside Gallery 42. Dave's orthopaedic surgeon recommended surgery in 7 days. They plan on flying to Hanoi and getting eliminated.

Pam & Winnie depart at 5:21 AM. U-Turn ahead. Pam & Winnie mention the 3 team alliance and they want to break up the alliance. Ew.

Max & Katie depart at 5:25 AM. Max is looking forward to using the U-Turn. He wants to use it on Meghan & Joey or Jessica & John.

First 3 teams are all at the flight agency. Dave & Connor get asked if they're going to continue... Connor says they're not. Pam & Winnie: "We finally get to be on top... without someone from a wheelchair wheeling past us." :lol3:

Caroline & Jennifer depart at 7:20 AM. Joey & Meghan depart at 9:06 AM. They think that Jessica & John got eliminated... They're feeling more vulnerable.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:09:35 PM
First three teams on a flight by themselves, everyone else on the second flight
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:10:02 PM
Mona & Beth depart at 9:12 AM. They think John & Jessica are gone so their only alliance team is Meghan & Joey.

Bates & Anthony depart at 9:14 AM. They would U-Turn themselves if they were another team.

Chuck & Wynona depart at 9:23 AM. Wynona says they've grown apart this past year... She wants to reconnect and find each other to win the race.

Pam & Winnie, Max & Katie and Dave & Connor get on the 1st flight out to Hanoi. Caroline & Jennifer got a 9:30 PM arrival. Everyone else will be on the same flight as them.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:10:56 PM
Of course there is a dumb HOO :res:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 17, 2013, 07:12:00 PM
Pam & Winnie and Maxie are all besties! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:13:49 PM
First flight touches down. They all get into taxis. Max wonders who was eliminated. Pam & Winnie want to finish this leg without seeing another team.

Max: "It's like Beverly Hills!"

Hours of operation! Teams arrived at 7:34 PM but the gallery closed at 6 PM. All the other teams will catch up. They start setting up for the night. Max starts impersonating John. :lol3: Pam/Winnie for the title. :lol3: Pam & Winnie really like Max & Katie.

Second flight arrives... They find Max & Katie and Pam & Winnie sleeping on the floor. :lol3: Dave & Connor went to see a doctor but Pam & Winnie didn't tell them that they were going to quit.

It is revealed that John & Jessica were eliminated... Max calls them idiots. Joey & Meghan don't like Max & Katie and Pam & Winnie because they were bad mouthing John & Jessica... Except we're only shown Max doing it.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:15:01 PM
Dave & Connor have decided to go to the mat... :( Dave doesn't want to let Connor down but their race has to come to an end. Connor gets emotional talking about Dave. They've been eliminated. :(

Connor: "I would rather run 4 legs with you than win $1 million with anyone else." :'(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
Why did they reveal that only 13 minutes into the episode?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
Looks like all the teams are friends except members of the silly alliance
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
Back with the other teams... Caroline & Jennifer tell Pam & Winnie to U-Turn Joey & Meghan and Mona & Beth. Everyone agrees to U-Turn them... Well we have a nasty group of people. Gag. :res: Awkward tension when Joey & Meghan and Mona & Beth arrive at Gallery 42... lol. They both sense that they're going to get U-Turned...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
I'm really loving that we are seeing a whole lot more inter-team mingling this season than most recent seasons, not to mention these interesting friendships/alliances that have formed. :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 17, 2013, 07:19:13 PM
Dave and Connor :torche Oh well, their exit was quite sad, but it was for the best - hoping now that despite there's a Double U-Turn, it's an NEL
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 17, 2013, 07:19:35 PM
We lost the race's best team.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:21:12 PM
And we're back. Teams rush into the theatre...

Roadblock. Teams will have to watch a performance of a patriotic Vietnamese song. Then the dancers will have to memorize the words shown by the dancers and then find a matching poster. No notes can be taken.

"It's like One Direction!" :lol3: LAUGHING SO HARD.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Theo on March 17, 2013, 07:21:27 PM
Oh, God! Wynona decides not to do the Roadblock <3333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:21:42 PM
Wynona is going to have to do something eventually :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on March 17, 2013, 07:21:51 PM
Why did they reveal that only 13 minutes into the episode?
The show is roughly chronological concerning events within each leg. Since Dave-Connor were the first team to arrive at the Pit Stop before any of the other teams left the overnight location due to HOO, it does make sense to show their departure at that point.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on March 17, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
Wynona has done 1 roadblock. Chuck has done 5. Does not bode well.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 17, 2013, 07:22:29 PM
The Roadblock is so random... But so genius!

"It's like One Direction." :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:24:19 PM
Hm. Lots of communistic and socialistic views in this song. :lol3:

The dancers show the words. The next performance will start in 5 minutes... Teams start looking for the poster with the words... There are hundreds of posters... There are posters that are super close but have just 1 letter difference.

Teams are trying posters over and over again. Pam finishes the roadblock in first. Proceed to Cong Vien Thong Nhat. Teams will then perform a bamboo dance to receive their next clue. The second performance starts. Mona & Meghan team up to memorize only 4 words each.

Chuck finishes the roadblock in 2nd!!! Jennifer in 3rd. Katie in 4th. Holy moly.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:25:25 PM
Meghan finds the poster so she stays to help Beth. Except the next performance starts so they have to go back. Meghan has to leave the poster. Meghan finishes the roadblock, followed by Beth. Then Bates (or is it Anthony) finishes.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:27:18 PM
Pam & Winnie do the bamboo dance. The beat is quite nice. "It feels like the country gave us a hug."

Detour: Make Your Move or Make Your Meal.

Move: Set up a giant chess game using human pieces scattered around a park. :lol3: Teams will have to choose 4 chess pieces and match them to a human counterpart. Then they will have to place the pieces in the right position.

Meal: Make Vietman's national dish. Get basket and chickens. Then purchase all the ingredients stated on an ingredients list. Ingredients will be weighed and then they will have to prepare the dish to get the next clue.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:28:33 PM
Pam & Winnie pick chess. Chuck & Wynona and Max & Katie do the dance wrong. They're not holding hands. Max & Katie get the detour clue. They're doing meal. Joey & Meghan pick meal. Bates & Anthony had to hold hands. :lol3: They pick chess. Chuck & Wynona... what are you doing. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 17, 2013, 07:28:48 PM
Loved Chuck & Wynona's bamboo stick "obstacle course" fails. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
Pam & Winnie put the staves in place. "We need human beings!"

Chuck & Wynona finally realize they have to hold hands. Mona & Beth do chess. Chuck & Wynona do cook. Caroline & Jennifer pick chess. They're in last again rofl. :groan:

Pam & Winnie grab the humans... "We're not always this crazy, Americans." Two of the humans are incorrect. The colour of the words matter?

Max & Katie arrive start carrying basket and chickens. The ingredients list isn't in English omg. :lol3: A nice local helps Max & Katie. :hrt: Max: "Katie, did you want plastic or paper?" Funny, funny.

Pam & Winnie realize their mistake. They get their clue. Proceed to B-52 Memorial. Next clue will be there...

Joey & Meghan see them leave... Meghan: "Oh crap."

Max & Katie thank the local and then the ingredients are weighed. The hot peppers and basil are incorrect. They have to go back. Wynona says she needs to get the chickens. Chuck says they have to go to the market... Chuck got them lost. They have to take a rickshaw.

W-Turn board! This is an anonymous U-Turn. Omg. They U-Turn Joey & Meghan. Pit Stop: The Vietnam National Museum of History. should i start gagging. i'm gagging.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
Mona & Beth get the human chess pieces. Max & Katie get the basil and chili peppers. The driver has no clue where the market is... Wynona isn't very happy.

Bates & Anthony finish the detour. Caroline & Jennifer and Mona & Beth have no idea what they're doing. Joey & Meghan finish the detour in 3rd.

Max & Katie now have to make the dish. Max says that he can now go into a Vietnamese restaurant and say "Eh, that was alright.". :lol3: They're done the detour.

Wynona is frustrated with Chuck.

Pam & Winnie are team #1. They won a trip for 2 to Whistler, Canada. YAY CANADA.

Pit Stop:

1st - Pam & Winnie
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:38:36 PM
Phil: "Are you feeling confident?" And then Pam (or is it Winnie lol I still can't tell) replies that they can't get confident... "Look at John." ouch.

Joey & Meghan find out they've been U-Turned.

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 07:39:44 PM
That chess one looks very easy to me - I don't really think this Detour is well-balanced but it is kinda funny to watch. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:40:22 PM
I'm sure Meghan and Joey will Uturn Max and Katie but the latter have already done the harder task on the Detour so they should be fine
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
Phil: "Are you feeling confident?" And then Pam (or is it Winnie lol I still can't tell) replies that they can't get confident... "Look at John." ouch.

:lol3: I'm liking them this episode, I didn't realize they would be such a fierce and skillful team.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Theo on March 17, 2013, 07:41:26 PM
Pam & Winnie is on firee!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Theo on March 17, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
Boo at Joey & Meghan U-Turning Chuck & Wynona!!! :stare
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:42:57 PM
Joey & Meghan U-Turn Chuck & Wynona because they need to stay in the race. Meghan gets upset over the other alliance.

Caroline & Jennifer think they have to win a chess game. lmao.

Mona & Beth figure out they need to get matching chess players. Caroline & Jennifer ask a chess player what to do. :groan: Mona & Beth are done the detour. Caroline & Jennifer... rofl. Disaster.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 17, 2013, 07:44:10 PM
I officially hate Joey & Meghan for U-Turning Chuck & Wynona! :tantrum

It's stupid neither teams U-Turned Anthony & Bates!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:44:55 PM
Bates & Anthony proceed to the pit stop.

Caroline & Jennifer finally figure out what to do. :groan: :groan: :groan: "The treehouse will go right here!" :lol3:

Max & Katie see the U-Turn board. They're off to the pit stop. Max & Katie pass Mona & Beth. Mona & Beth find out Joey & Meghan were U-Turned. They're off to the pit stop.

Wynona: "We need 12 limes... and a husband that listens." :lol3:

Joey & Meghan begin the other side of the detour. I don't know how Joey is still keeping his crazy attitude up. I would be pissed. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:46:01 PM
The locals laugh at Joey carrying the chickens. The store owners are just randomly giving Joey & Meghan ingredients.

Max & Katie are team #2. Mona & Beth arrive right behind them. They're team #3. Bates & Anthony are team #4.

Pit Stop:

1st - Pam & Winnie
2nd - Max & Katie
3rd - Mona & Beth :wohoo:
4th - Bates & Anthony
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:46:55 PM
Joey & Meghan see Chuck & Wynona at the detour. Chuck & Wynona have a few ingredients wrong. Joey & Meghan's ingredients are completely off. The store owners just randomly gave them things.

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:47:22 PM
PS, I would have loved to see Max & Katie and Mona & Beth chat with Phil at the mat. That must have been one awkward conversation. :stare
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 17, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
I already miss Conner's Beautiful Hair.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 17, 2013, 07:48:29 PM
Bates & Anthony seemed to be surprised about being team number 4 , their cab must have been lost for a good time.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Really surprised by some questionable U-Turning decisions... :stare can kinda understand why Joey & Meghan chose Chuck & Wynona, but they would've been better off with another team imo, and the big alliance wants to get rid of JJ's minions instead of stronger teams... :crazy:

Caroline & Jennifer thinking they need to win a chess game <33333333333333 Love them <333333333333333333 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: supah on March 17, 2013, 07:50:04 PM
I already miss Conner's Beautiful Hair.

THIS
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
I officially hate Joey & Meghan for U-Turning Chuck & Wynona! :tantrum

It's stupid neither teams U-Turned Anthony & Bates!

It was actually a smart move from Joey and Meghan to Uturn Alabama because it is better to pick on  a weak team that you can beat than a strong team who might beat you anyway. But knowing them they didn't think of these strategies and just picked randomly :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:51:04 PM
Really surprised by some questionable U-Turning decisions... :stare can kinda understand why Joey & Meghan chose Chuck & Wynona, but they would've been better off with another team imo, and the big alliance wants to get rid of JJ's minions instead of stronger teams... :crazy:

Caroline & Jennifer thinking they need to win a chess game <33333333333333 Love them <333333333333333333 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

I thought it was smart to U-Turn Chuck & Wynona because if you're U-Turned and you're worried about getting eliminated, you're desperate to U-Turn someone you're confident you can beat.

& lol I really dislike Caroline & Jennifer.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:52:48 PM
We're back with Joey & Meghan's ingredients getting rejected. They have to go back.

Wynona sees that Joey & Meghan got chickens... Wynona is upset that Chuck didn't listen to her.

Caroline & Jennifer are team #5.

Pit Stop:

1st - Pam & Winnie
2nd - Max & Katie
3rd - Mona & Beth :wohoo:
4th - Bates & Anthony
5th - Caroline & Jennifer
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:54:26 PM
Chuck: "Mucho gracias" :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:54:59 PM
Joey & Meghan's ingredients are approved. The taster approves. They finish the detour in 6th.

Chuck & Wynona's ingredients are approved.

Joey & Meghan asks their taxi driver if he knows where he's going... he leads them to a house. :groan:

Chuck & Wynona finish the detour. Chuck tastes the noodles. :lol3:

Joey & Meghan are off to the pit stop. Chuck & Wynona see the U-Turn. They figure that Joey & Meghan U-Turned them. :(

Joey & Meghan are team #6. They're really happy about that. Meghan is a huge ball of fiery righteousness.

Pit Stop:

1st - Pam & Winnie
2nd - Max & Katie
3rd - Mona & Beth :wohoo:
4th - Bates & Anthony
5th - Caroline & Jennifer
6th - Joey & Meghan
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Neobie on March 17, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
It's Ian's Vietnam theme song!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Theo on March 17, 2013, 07:56:40 PM
Chuck & Wynona are safeee! :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 07:57:15 PM
Chuck & Wynona are shown doing the chess detour... and then fast forward to the pit stop. They're the last team to arrive... Wynona feels like she's the weakest person on all the teams. Chuck is proud of her. HOHOHO TWIST. Phil tells Chuck & Wynona that Dave & Connor have withdrawn from the race. They're officially team #7. :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

And we end with the Vietnamese song! :lol3:

Pit Stop:

1st - Pam & Winnie
2nd - Max & Katie
3rd - Mona & Beth :wohoo:
4th - Bates & Anthony
5th - Caroline & Jennifer
6th - Joey & Meghan
7th - Chuck & Wynona
8th - Dave & Connor (QUIT)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 07:57:34 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ the Vietnamese RB song playing through the beginning credits! :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 17, 2013, 07:58:29 PM
Chynona <33333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Magnus on March 17, 2013, 07:59:59 PM
Sesame street on crack!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 08:00:31 PM
Next week on The Amazing Race...

In the breathtaking country of Botswana... Teams meet Kalahari bushman! Pam & Winnie are following them... doing something? ??? and meet the bushmen's best friend... A scorpion! Joey is afraid of touching the scorpion and one of the bushmen is eating a scorpion in front of Max.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 17, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
Sesame street on crack!

I really hope that's the next episode title! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 08:00:46 PM
Really surprised by some questionable U-Turning decisions... :stare can kinda understand why Joey & Meghan chose Chuck & Wynona, but they would've been better off with another team imo, and the big alliance wants to get rid of JJ's minions instead of stronger teams... :crazy:

Caroline & Jennifer thinking they need to win a chess game <33333333333333 Love them <333333333333333333 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

I thought it was smart to U-Turn Chuck & Wynona because if you're U-Turned and you're worried about getting eliminated, you're desperate to U-Turn someone you're confident you can beat.

& lol I really dislike Caroline & Jennifer.

I don't think it was a bad move to U-Turn Chuck & Wynona necessarily, but I think they could've U-Turned someone else  and still beat them too, but that's just my opinion.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 17, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
Sesame street on crack!

I really hope that's the next episode title! :lol3:

IKR! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 17, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
Where is the "Next week.." post(s)

I missed the preview :(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jimmer on March 17, 2013, 08:03:46 PM
Reply 63 by Polaroid.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 17, 2013, 08:06:02 PM
There wasn't much to the preview anyway though.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 17, 2013, 08:14:47 PM
This episode was pretty cool; the Roadblock was exciting and I felt like doing the twinnie jig Natalie & Nadiya performed at Cui Ping Restaurant during the song. The bamboo stick "obstacle course" is enjoyable and Chuck & Wynona made this much more entertaining. The Detour was okay, I don't know what the chicken was for though.

U-Turn and Joey & Meghan drama was well-edited, but Team YouTube's evil faces in their Pit Stop was just so fake. Chuck & Wynona, barely making it since New Zealand. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 17, 2013, 08:17:11 PM
Sooo... does anyone know which bushmen camp or reserve they were at? :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Bwils927 on March 17, 2013, 08:18:25 PM
lol at Max mocking John at the hotel.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Theo on March 17, 2013, 08:19:09 PM
Whoa! I saw a lot of meltdown in Facebook page. They all complain about the communism thing. I'm not really good at American history, and it must be related with Vietnam war, what's actually happened? I'm afraid people don't want to watch TAR anymore because of it.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: GonzaloChileno on March 17, 2013, 08:25:42 PM
Whoa! I saw a lot of meltdown in Facebook page. They all complain about the communism thing. I'm not really good at American history, and it must be related with Vietnam war, what's actually happened? I'm afraid people don't want to watch TAR anymore because of it.

Well, i'm not a big fan of communism, but since it is part of their culture/tradition i accept it without any complain... Also, the song was really nice to hear :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: LoveRocked on March 17, 2013, 08:51:57 PM
Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan
I think I just about put them to sleep:) #AmazingRace pic.twitter.com/WzHvMJz8a5

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFmchGVCQAExK4F.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jimmer on March 17, 2013, 09:32:07 PM
It looks like they may have been waiting out a penalty. ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: paradoxinee on March 17, 2013, 11:01:24 PM
As I predicted, there are many typos in pictures in that Roadblock.
So funny when Joey & Meagan got the ingredient for Pho because they went to the same shop as Max & Katie, the shop owner already knew what they need but gave them everything wrong :))

And for the song, I don't think it said anything about Vietnam war with America. Just about a bright future of Vietnam with the leading of Communist Party.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 17, 2013, 11:19:45 PM
The other teams have the same reaction as us , about JJ's elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: LoveRocked on March 18, 2013, 12:04:22 AM
Connor O'Leary ‏@Coleary00
@PhilKeoghan @nooppwasted @AmazingRace_CBS this is what a torn Achilles looks like #amazingrace pic.twitter.com/tuAHpEgSsO
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFmcHesCQAA3IFb.jpg)

David really well and doing great.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: BuuYaa on March 18, 2013, 04:29:45 AM
Guess we have a Teams Coupling now :

Pam&Winnie + Max&Katie
Joey&Meghan + Mona Beth
Caroline&Jennifer + Bates&Anthony
while Chuck&Wynona is JET&CORD...  :tantrum


I feel bad though for Meghan. The target on JJ's back kind a move to her&Joey now. She really did NOTHING and VOALA they got U-TURNED ...
I guess that's the consequence for aligning yourself with JJ. Well at least JoeY&Meghan DID NOT forget to USE the other slot on the U-TURN board  :lol3:


Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: jostor on March 18, 2013, 05:56:20 AM
As much as Chuck & Wynona are a sweet team and I felt bad when they got U-turned they are on borrowed time already. I think the reason why they got U-tunred is because Meghan & Joey wanted to make sure they U-turned a team that was behind them. They had probably spent 30 minutes in a cab and had no idea they were in second place, if they knew what us viewers did they probably would have gone for a different team.

Also, is Dave & Connor the first team to actually give up on the race while essentially still having a chance? Other teams have quit in the past, but then they were already in last place and essentially just took a penalty that made them get eliminated, while Dave & Connor actually gave up, and would probably have survived the leg if they went on.
This makes Dave & Connor very likely candidates for a new Unfinished Business season.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: gator27 on March 18, 2013, 06:46:47 AM
Caroline & Jennifer thinking they need to win a chess game <33333333333333 Love them <333333333333333333 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Once Caroline & Jennifer realized the chess Detour was not a game against them men seated at the board, their strategy of choosing 4 people, taking them to the chess board area, and then putting them in the right place was probably the fastest.  They only had to run to the chess board to check their results instead of returning to the pool of people milling about.
Title: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: tydfan on March 18, 2013, 07:57:50 AM
1. No, no, and no. I think several of the tasks they used in Vietnam were insulting to every American and especially to anyone who served during that war. Having the U-Turn located next to a shrine for a US plane that was shot down was particularly offensive. It was propaganda at it's very worst and CBS ought to be ashamed. My wife and I have watched this show every year it has been on and I don't think any leg of any season affected me as negatively as that one did.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: shiqiansoh on March 18, 2013, 09:24:43 AM
Just watched the episode. For your reference, I kinda think that the lady that helped the newlyweds with the translation was The Amazing Race Vietnam's contestant Tran Gia Binh:

(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/309064_10150408992354712_1568269712_n.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: paradoxinee on March 18, 2013, 10:07:14 AM
Just watched the episode. For your reference, I kinda think that the lady that helped the newlyweds with the translation was The Amazing Race Vietnam's contestant Tran Gia Binh:

No, she isn't. I don't see any familiar between them.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 10:28:44 AM
Looks like all the teams are friends except members of the silly alliance
I believe that I have the answer. Except during ridiculous attempts to build non-existent suspense by misleading viewers into the time gap between the teams fighting bear the pit stop for survival, World Race Productions typically tries to align the task performance of all the teams in chronological order. That means the David/Connor withdrawal actually occurred before the HOO expired. They were probably ready to do so on arrival in Hanoi, but I guess they were held back by Production to allow Phil to rest and daylight to appear to assist HD filming.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 10:43:09 AM
Wynona is going to have to do something eventually :lol:
You bet. With a ROADBLOCK count now at Chuck 5/Wynona 1, this team will not last much longer. They are consistently finishing at the bottom of the pack.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 10:47:09 AM
The Roadblock is so random... But so genius!

"It's like One Direction." :lol3:
RachelLeVega,
That is the one of the least random ROADBLOCKs I can remember. It rewards excellent memory and the ability to on the spot form an alliance to have two selected individuals from different teams work together to get it done. I will agree with you that it is a very high-quality and interesting ROADBLOCK.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 10:52:10 AM

Max & Katie arrive start carrying basket and chickens. The ingredients list isn't in English omg.

The way I heard it is exactly the opposite. The list was in English, but what use is that in a Vietnamese market? Each team doing Make a Meal had to find a translator who could speak Viet to the the market vendors.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 11:01:58 AM
Really surprised by some questionable U-Turning decisions... :stare can kinda understand why Joey & Meghan chose Chuck & Wynona, but they would've been better off with another team imo, and the big alliance wants to get rid of JJ's minions instead of stronger teams... :crazy:
This happens in a world of imperfect information. Traditional wisdom holds that the sure thing for U-Turns is to attempt to discern who the team in last place is, so that there is more breathing room between Joey/Meghan and them. Their guess of Chuck/Wynona was correct. In my opinion, they made the best choice possible. Who else were they going to UTurn? Joey/Meghan didn't know where either Max/Katie or Caroline/Jennifer were and they would not do it to their Alliance partners Mona/Beth.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 11:29:18 AM
Whoa! I saw a lot of meltdown in Facebook page. They all complain about the communism thing. I'm not really good at American history, and it must be related with Vietnam war, what's actually happened? I'm afraid people don't want to watch TAR anymore because of it.
To make a brief summary of it, the U.S. mistook Vietnam's anticolonislist sentiments from fighting their French through their surrender and withdrawal at Dien Bien Phu in 1954. We escalated our involvement in the late 1950s and 1960s because we thought we were holding the line against communism in Asia. In fact, the Vietnamese did have a relationship with the Chinese and USSR communists but the Viets were basically Socialists throughout that period and remain so today. They are a fiercely independent people, so the U.S. 's assumptions about them being communist were misplaced.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 18, 2013, 11:43:20 AM
The big problem with u-turns is that teams don't often know if other teams have passed it or not and so can't use it as they might want to.  If it's meant to be a tactical part of the race that makes it difficult to use properly.

I've never seen the point of having them blind.  Incidentally Chuck and Wynona appeared to think that the board showed Joey and Meghan had u-turned them, so they read the sign wrong anyway.

I think the memory task could have been made more difficult, they only had about 5 words.  So I think the ease of tasks is still something that is stopping it from being classic, but definitely much better tasks and cast than the previous season.

The race seems to be about alliances as much as individual teams in recent seasons.  Personally I'm a bit tired of that and it feels a bit fake anyway like that's what the production are pushing at us.

I kind of expected a non-elimination leg after the rather quick exit of the injured team.  Glad taxis still haven't had too big an impact in this race. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
starrynight,

Actually it's 9 Viet words, which is not close to 5 words in difficulty of memorization. I have no idea whether the accent marks, which are much trickier in the Vietnamese language than in French (the language I know that uses a lot of accent marks) played any part in the difficulty of the ROADBLOCK. If we have any RFF members who are fluent in the Vietnamese language perhaps they could comment on that.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 18, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
Ok, still they only had to remember it phonetically to compare it to the cards didn't they?  And all of them did it within 2 attempts I think, so it can't have been that hard.  There have surely been more difficult memory tasks.  The way it was setup was ok, I just think it could have been more difficult.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 01:53:19 PM
starrynight,
How do you know that all teams completed that ROADBLOCK wihtrin 2 attempts. World Race Productions frequently does not show you the entire story, as the time limit of 41 minutes per telecast is too stringent for that to happen.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 18, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
Well that's all we can go by I suppose.  If people had taken quite a while we would probably have seen more frustration.
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Dånooky on March 18, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
1. No, no, and no. I think several of the tasks they used in Vietnam were insulting to every American and especially to anyone who served during that war. Having the U-Turn located next to a shrine for a US plane that was shot down was particularly offensive. It was propaganda at it's very worst and CBS ought to be ashamed. My wife and I have watched this show every year it has been on and I don't think any leg of any season affected me as negatively as that one did.

You should definitely re-watch Season 3 and check out Ian's perspective on Vietnam. Also, how is showing the B-52 monument more disrespectful and offensive than showcasing the memorial of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: couchracer on March 18, 2013, 05:04:19 PM
I dislike u-turns that are personal. Strategy is better and can have an effect on who continues.
You-tube's was strategic, as they could only guess who was behind. Pam and Winnie wasted their u-turn,
might they regret that later? 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Air on March 18, 2013, 05:36:28 PM
I dislike u-turns that are personal. Strategy is better and can have an effect on who continues.
You-tube's was strategic, as they could only guess who was behind. Pam and Winnie wasted their u-turn,
might they regret that later?

It is possible that Pam & Winnie have not wasted their U-Turn, because we still don't know if a Blind U-Turn wastes a team's Courtesy of Photo.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Reilly Queens on March 18, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
It doesn't.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 18, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
I dislike u-turns that are personal. Strategy is better and can have an effect on who continues.
You-tube's was strategic, as they could only guess who was behind. Pam and Winnie wasted their u-turn,
might they regret that later?

It is possible that Pam & Winnie have not wasted their U-Turn, because we still don't know if a Blind U-Turn wastes a team's Courtesy of Photo.

I hope not, otherwise Pam/Winnie's U-Turn decision was appalling especially for them
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jimmer on March 18, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
I dislike u-turns that are personal. Strategy is better and can have an effect on who continues.
You-tube's was strategic, as they could only guess who was behind. Pam and Winnie wasted their u-turn,
might they regret that later?

It is possible that Pam & Winnie have not wasted their U-Turn, because we still don't know if a Blind U-Turn wastes a team's Courtesy of Photo.

It doesn't.

Yeah, but that was back when they still carried photos. They might have changed the rules since the U-Turn board became electronic.
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Hooky on March 18, 2013, 06:19:52 PM
1. No, no, and no. I think several of the tasks they used in Vietnam were insulting to every American and especially to anyone who served during that war. Having the U-Turn located next to a shrine for a US plane that was shot down was particularly offensive. It was propaganda at it's very worst and CBS ought to be ashamed. My wife and I have watched this show every year it has been on and I don't think any leg of any season affected me as negatively as that one did.

You should definitely re-watch Season 3 and check out Ian's perspective on Vietnam. Also, how is showing the B-52 monument more disrespectful and offensive than showcasing the memorial of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings?

On a note that is only somewhat related, that ridiculous performance they had to watch could definitely be said to be propaganda in the U.S. Also, whose terrible idea was it to make that song the music playing in the episode credits? C'mon CBS, I want to see the epic credits music come back!

(See Season 12 Episode 6 for an excellent sample. That song gave me goosebumbs, and sadly, I haven't heard it on the show since.)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 06:50:09 PM
I dislike u-turns that are personal. Strategy is better and can have an effect on who continues.
You-tube's was strategic, as they could only guess who was behind. Pam and Winnie wasted their u-turn,
might they regret that later?

It is possible that Pam & Winnie have not wasted their U-Turn, because we still don't know if a Blind U-Turn wastes a team's Courtesy of Photo.

I hope not, otherwise Pam/Winnie's U-Turn decision was appalling especially for them

The last time an Anonymous UTurn was used it did not take away the right for a team to use a regular UTurn. I remember it being done in AR14 by Margie/Luke in episode 4. They did not get a later regular UTurn opportunity, but I recall that they would have able to use it if there was one open to them. Another example of an Anonymous UTurn being nulified without effect was in AR21 when Gary/Wil attempted to do so to Rob/Kelley, who were already ahead of them at that point.

We do not know if the rules allow anyone using an Anonymous UTurn to later use a regular UTurn in AR22 or not. If Pam/Winnie do not get that opportunity, then I agree that their decision to use an Anonymous UTurn to try to eliminate a team their alliance does not like was a poor one.

I think it is instructive that Max/Katie, who were members of the alliance with Pam/Winnie, did not use the second Anonymous UTurn on Mona/Beth even though they had the opportunity to. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Best Loser on March 18, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
Max & Katie arrived at the U-Turn board 4th, 2 placements below Joey & Meghan who were the second team at the board.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
Best Loser,
You are right. When Joey/Meghan activated the second U-Turn it was no longer available for Max/Katie.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on March 18, 2013, 11:44:39 PM
Dave and Connor, 5.01am.
Pam and Winnie, 5.21am.
Max and Katie, 5.25am.
Max: If we did it on Jess and John, we will be smoking out the EP. :lol3:
Joab: They smoked themselves out.

Caroline and Jennifer, 720am. (WOW)
Whiney and Meghan, 906am.
Mona and Beth, 912am.
Bates and Anthony, 914am.
Chuck and Wynona, 923am.

Max and Katie first team we see out of the airport. Max and Katie, Dave and Connor and Pam and Winnie are on Flight 1 through SINGAPORE. (For 2 legs in a row we see Singaporeeeee!)

And the rest are on KL Flight.

AT 7.34PM Max and Katie are first and HoO from 9am to 6PM. (BUNCHINGGGG)

Pamela and Winnie: Your tan is totally cool. Them and Max and Katie making friends.... hmm!

Max totally laughing at J/J eliminated with EP. <33333333333333333333

Moms and Whiney and Meghan are shocked. Nothing to be shocked!!! :lol3:

DAVE AND CONNOR QUIT THE RACE!!! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

TENSION TENSION AT GALLERY 52. Moms and Youtube TARGETS.

Caroline and Jennifer -> CURRENTLY IN 1ST PLACE

ROADBLOCK:
PAM AND WINNIE (1STTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT)
Chuck and Wynona :luvya:
MAX AND KATIE
CAROLINE AND JENNIFER

Joey accompanying moms <3

JOEY AND MEGHAN 5TH
MOMS 6TH
BATES AND ANTHONY 7TH

DETOUR:
PAMELA AND WINNIE FIRST DETOUR OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

IT'S A DOUBLE BLIND U-TURN.

Pam and Winnie kills Joey and Meghan. Omg, imagine if Dave and Connor doesn't quit, this has to be the MOST EXCITING leg I think.

Bates and Anthony 2nd
Joey and Meghan 3rd
Max and Katie 4th
Mona and Beth 5th
Caroline and Jen 6th

PAM AND WINNIE TEAM #1 <333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
THEY ARE GOING TO CANADA!
"Never let your confidence down as you will let your guard down, YOU CAN ASK JOHN" - HEHEHEHE.

Joey and Meghan in 2ND and U-TURN Chuck and Wynona. :(

Chuck and Wynona, We need 12 limes and a husband thatt listens. :lol3:

Chuck and  Wynona 7th

FINAL PITSTOP POSITION:
PAM AND WINNIE
MAX AND KATIE
MONA AND BETH
BATES AND ANTHONY
CAROLINE AND JENNIFER
JOEY AND MEGHAN
CHUCK AND WYNONA

It's a good episode but the Chinese Chess Detour was WAYYYY TOOOOO EASYYYY.

And Dave and Connor quitting = -_- anti-climax.




Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on March 18, 2013, 11:49:38 PM
I honestly think, this is the ONE season which all teams fare equally in terms of their abilities (with the exception of Chuck and Wynona of course)!

AVERAGE OF SEVEN REMAINING TEAMS:

BATES & ANTHONY: 3.4
PAM & WINNIE: 4.0
JOEY & MEGHAN: 5.2
MONA & BETH: 5.4
MAX & KATIE: 6.0
CAROLINE & JEN: 6.4
CHUCK & WYNONA: 7.2

ELIMINATED TEAMS:
DAVE & CONNOR: 3.0
JESS & JOHN: 3.75
IDRIES & JAMIL: 9.0
MATT & DANIEL: 11.0

I think it has been a long time we have had none of the teams with a 2.0+ average at least and with 5 of the 7 remaining teams with averages WORST than 5.0. :oh :oh :oh

It's like, two teams who won legs before are already eliminated and as long as Chuck and Wynona survive next leg, they would have gotten their best attained position yet. LOL
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on March 19, 2013, 12:03:28 AM
Chuck with 5 Detours and Wynona at 1 is just. :ascared :ascared :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: shiqiansoh on March 19, 2013, 12:11:23 AM
Just watched the episode. For your reference, I kinda think that the lady that helped the newlyweds with the translation was The Amazing Race Vietnam's contestant Tran Gia Binh:

No, she isn't. I don't see any familiar between them.

Hmmm…… But she was like Gia Binh to me. Well, maybe she isn't.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: paradoxinee on March 19, 2013, 02:42:22 AM
Do you European or American? because the Asian faces sometimes look familiar to European/American.

For the Roadblock, I think it's quite easy because there are only typos in the letter and one poster only had one mistake. If it has typo in accent marker and many typo in one poster, it will make it more difficult. But becaus that phrase has not much accent marker so...
For example:
Right phrase: Vinh quang thay thế hệ thanh niên chúng ta
Wrong phrase: Vinh quang thay thề hệ thank niêm chùng ta
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: shiqiansoh on March 19, 2013, 07:24:57 AM
I just noticed that the fifth leg's pit stop for this TAR USA season is the same as TAR Vietnam's first leg pit stop in Hanoi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_Vietnam#Leg_1_.28Hanoi.29
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jimmer on March 19, 2013, 10:16:02 AM
It's like, two teams who won legs before are already eliminated and as long as Chuck and Wynona survive next leg, they would have gotten their best attained position yet. LOL

Um, didn't Chuck and Wynona get 5th in the 2nd Bora Bora leg?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on March 19, 2013, 10:23:17 AM
It's like, two teams who won legs before are already eliminated and as long as Chuck and Wynona survive next leg, they would have gotten their best attained position yet. LOL

Um, didn't Chuck and Wynona get 5th in the 2nd Bora Bora leg?

I missed that lol! Let's hope Chuck and Wynona be our new LUMELIA! Escaping elimination THREE TIMES ALREADY <3 :lol3:
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Dånooky on March 19, 2013, 06:54:41 PM
1. No, no, and no. I think several of the tasks they used in Vietnam were insulting to every American and especially to anyone who served during that war. Having the U-Turn located next to a shrine for a US plane that was shot down was particularly offensive. It was propaganda at it's very worst and CBS ought to be ashamed. My wife and I have watched this show every year it has been on and I don't think any leg of any season affected me as negatively as that one did.

You should definitely re-watch Season 3 and check out Ian's perspective on Vietnam. Also, how is showing the B-52 monument more disrespectful and offensive than showcasing the memorial of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings?

On a note that is only somewhat related, that ridiculous performance they had to watch could definitely be said to be propaganda in the U.S. Also, whose terrible idea was it to make that song the music playing in the episode credits? C'mon CBS, I want to see the epic credits music come back!

(See Season 12 Episode 6 for an excellent sample. That song gave me goosebumbs, and sadly, I haven't heard it on the show since.)
While it could be considered propaganda, it is no different than broadcasting people from the US singing about "the land of the free and the home of the brave". I just think some 'Murricans believe that only they are entitled to be patriotic. I'm glad TAR was able to share a form of patriotism outside of what is common in the US. </rant>
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Snooky on March 19, 2013, 07:44:51 PM
1. No, no, and no. I think several of the tasks they used in Vietnam were insulting to every American and especially to anyone who served during that war. Having the U-Turn located next to a shrine for a US plane that was shot down was particularly offensive. It was propaganda at it's very worst and CBS ought to be ashamed. My wife and I have watched this show every year it has been on and I don't think any leg of any season affected me as negatively as that one did.
As far as I have seen from a history perspective of the war, many who served in the US military in Vietnam weren't even in support of the war in the first place.

As for the propaganda point, how can one not say that last season's United Nations final task and describing it as an "International peace-keeping organization" isn't propaganda? The Vietnam song task was from the perspective of the Communist Party in Vietnam...So it at least had some relevance to the society as a whole. The United Nations task was far worse propaganda in my opinion. I don't think making light of a culture is propaganda at all...I do think many Americans act as though they are the only ones allowed to show some National Pride.
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Jobby on March 20, 2013, 05:50:11 AM
I think the whole point of The Amazing Race is to display culture and society differences in the perspective of the host country. I mean, I am pretty sure the RB was not meant to be disrespectful towards Vietnam in anyway, and I am sure Vietnam love and adore the fact to be still viewed as somewhat a communist country and the people of the country believe/hold such a belief as well.

So, if you feel as an American or people from another country feel infuriated/awkward or any negative feelings just by watching it, it is OKAY because we have subscribed to democracy since the time when we were born (assuming we live in mostly democratic countries).

Them singing, waving flags, dancing to a song that sings about their country is nothing different to Americans celebrating their independence day through performances as well. It's just cultural differences that perhaps you simply do not adhere to, but really, the Roadblock task has done nothing negative but in fact open up our eyes to the culture of Vietnam.

The Detour of making Pho was also culturally relevant and interesting. I just had qualms with the Chinese Chess task. Too easy, anti-climax and simply non-challenging. They should have made them learn some moves of chess (should they really need to have a CHINESE chess task in VIETNAM), otherwise, they should have just totally just changed it to completing some very traditional and uniquely Vietnamese games.

I also like the fact they visited the Shrine and showed the B52. Be more open towards history and culture because that is what part the whole race is all about. Nothing is meant to purposely demean a country or put a country in a negative light on TAR I believe.
Title: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Kamineko on March 20, 2013, 06:56:30 AM
I think the whole point of The Amazing Race is to display culture and society differences in the perspective of the host country. I mean, I am pretty sure the RB was not meant to be disrespectful towards Vietnam in anyway, and I am sure Vietnam love and adore the fact to be still viewed as somewhat a communist country and the people of the country believe/hold such a belief as well.

So, if you feel as an American or people from another country feel infuriated/awkward or any negative feelings just by watching it, it is OKAY because we have subscribed to democracy since the time when we were born (assuming we live in mostly democratic countries).

Them singing, waving flags, dancing to a song that sings about their country is nothing different to Americans celebrating their independence day through performances as well. It's just cultural differences that perhaps you simply do not adhere to, but really, the Roadblock task has done nothing negative but in fact open up our eyes to the culture of Vietnam.

The Detour of making Pho was also culturally relevant and interesting. I just had qualms with the Chinese Chess task. Too easy, anti-climax and simply non-challenging. They should have made them learn some moves of chess (should they really need to have a CHINESE chess task in VIETNAM), otherwise, they should have just totally just changed it to completing some very traditional and uniquely Vietnamese games.

I also like the fact they visited the Shrine and showed the B52. Be more open towards history and culture because that is what part the whole race is all about. Nothing is meant to purposely demean a country or put a country in a negative light on TAR I believe.

Totally agree with Joab! Sometimes, I wonder why if the production showcased something that's not really culturally relevant (TAR21 Surabaya Leg), you didn't like it, but when the production showcased something like the Roadblock recently and the B52 Memorial, you also didn't like it? (Sorry, I personally think that some of you don't like that) :(

Actually, what's your opinion by this so-called culturally relevance? Is it HAS to be dancing, painting, music, food, etc.? I think that the song Roadblock and the memorial is something that you obviously can't find in other countries, so in my opinion, it's culturally relevant with Vietnam. If you don't agree about some of the one the production showcased, why don't you design a leg by yourself that you think won't get any complaint from the viewers from ALL AROUND THE WORLD? 'Cause I think that some of us will complain that the leg is boring, not creative, not culturally relevant, etc. ;)

And I think that this is the time that we have to respect people around us. That's why there are so many kinds of culture and society differences in earth. I'm sorry to say this, but there's not only one kind of people who live in this world y'know. What has happened, let it go. So, just learn to accept what other people/countries belief. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Air on March 20, 2013, 07:08:14 AM
I think the whole point of The Amazing Race is to display culture and society differences in the perspective of the host country. I mean, I am pretty sure the RB was not meant to be disrespectful towards Vietnam in anyway, and I am sure Vietnam love and adore the fact to be still viewed as somewhat a communist country and the people of the country believe/hold such a belief as well.

So, if you feel as an American or people from another country feel infuriated/awkward or any negative feelings just by watching it, it is OKAY because we have subscribed to democracy since the time when we were born (assuming we live in mostly democratic countries).

Them singing, waving flags, dancing to a song that sings about their country is nothing different to Americans celebrating their independence day through performances as well. It's just cultural differences that perhaps you simply do not adhere to, but really, the Roadblock task has done nothing negative but in fact open up our eyes to the culture of Vietnam.

The Detour of making Pho was also culturally relevant and interesting. I just had qualms with the Chinese Chess task. Too easy, anti-climax and simply non-challenging. They should have made them learn some moves of chess (should they really need to have a CHINESE chess task in VIETNAM), otherwise, they should have just totally just changed it to completing some very traditional and uniquely Vietnamese games.

I also like the fact they visited the Shrine and showed the B52. Be more open towards history and culture because that is what part the whole race is all about. Nothing is meant to purposely demean a country or put a country in a negative light on TAR I believe.

Totally agree with Joab! Sometimes, I wonder why if the production showcased something that's not really culturally relevant (TAR21 Surabaya Leg), you didn't like it, but when the production showcased something like the Roadblock recently and the B52 Memorial, you also didn't like it? (Sorry, I personally think that some of you don't like that) :(

Actually, what's your opinion by this so-called culturally relevance? Is it HAS to be dancing, painting, music, food, etc.? I think that the song Roadblock and the memorial is something that you obviously can't find in other countries, so in my opinion, it's culturally relevant with Vietnam. If you don't agree about some of the one the production showcased, why don't you design a leg by yourself that you think won't get any complaint from the viewers from ALL AROUND THE WORLD? 'Cause I think that some of us will complain that the leg is boring, not creative, not culturally relevant, etc. ;)

And I think that this is the time that we have to respect people around us. That's why there are so many kinds of culture and society differences in earth. I'm sorry to say this, but there's not only one kind of people who live in this world y'know. What has happened, let it go. So, just learn to accept what other people/countries belief. Thanks! :)

I want to add: The person that wins the war writes the story. Vietnam won, they can write their story in their country however they want. :)
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Hooky on March 20, 2013, 09:20:54 AM
I think the whole point of The Amazing Race is to display culture and society differences in the perspective of the host country. I mean, I am pretty sure the RB was not meant to be disrespectful towards Vietnam in anyway, and I am sure Vietnam love and adore the fact to be still viewed as somewhat a communist country and the people of the country believe/hold such a belief as well.

So, if you feel as an American or people from another country feel infuriated/awkward or any negative feelings just by watching it, it is OKAY because we have subscribed to democracy since the time when we were born (assuming we live in mostly democratic countries).

Them singing, waving flags, dancing to a song that sings about their country is nothing different to Americans celebrating their independence day through performances as well. It's just cultural differences that perhaps you simply do not adhere to, but really, the Roadblock task has done nothing negative but in fact open up our eyes to the culture of Vietnam.

The Detour of making Pho was also culturally relevant and interesting. I just had qualms with the Chinese Chess task. Too easy, anti-climax and simply non-challenging. They should have made them learn some moves of chess (should they really need to have a CHINESE chess task in VIETNAM), otherwise, they should have just totally just changed it to completing some very traditional and uniquely Vietnamese games.

I also like the fact they visited the Shrine and showed the B52. Be more open towards history and culture because that is what part the whole race is all about. Nothing is meant to purposely demean a country or put a country in a negative light on TAR I believe.

Totally agree with Joab! Sometimes, I wonder why if the production showcased something that's not really culturally relevant (TAR21 Surabaya Leg), you didn't like it, but when the production showcased something like the Roadblock recently and the B52 Memorial, you also didn't like it? (Sorry, I personally think that some of you don't like that) :(

Actually, what's your opinion by this so-called culturally relevance? Is it HAS to be dancing, painting, music, food, etc.? I think that the song Roadblock and the memorial is something that you obviously can't find in other countries, so in my opinion, it's culturally relevant with Vietnam. If you don't agree about some of the one the production showcased, why don't you design a leg by yourself that you think won't get any complaint from the viewers from ALL AROUND THE WORLD? 'Cause I think that some of us will complain that the leg is boring, not creative, not culturally relevant, etc. ;)

And I think that this is the time that we have to respect people around us. That's why there are so many kinds of culture and society differences in earth. I'm sorry to say this, but there's not only one kind of people who live in this world y'know. What has happened, let it go. So, just learn to accept what other people/countries belief. Thanks! :)

I want to add: The person that wins the war writes the story. Vietnam won, they can write their story in their country however they want. :)

Okay, I can see where you're coming from. Fair enough.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 21, 2013, 05:47:46 AM
Do you European or American? because the Asian faces sometimes look familiar to European/American.

For the Roadblock, I think it's quite easy because there are only typos in the letter and one poster only had one mistake. If it has typo in accent marker and many typo in one poster, it will make it more difficult. But becaus that phrase has not much accent marker so...
For example:
Right phrase: Vinh quang thay thế hệ thanh niên chúng ta
Wrong phrase: Vinh quang thay thề hệ thank niêm chùng ta

It was like they were putting English words in to the phrase to make it wrong, surely that would only fool idiots for a long time.
Title: Re: Re: That leg was just so nonsense and boring. (LEG 6 QUESTIONS)
Post by: Hooky on March 21, 2013, 04:39:58 PM
Apparently this episode is getting some media attention: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/03/21/amazing-race-episode-set-in-hanoi-sparks-outrage/

I didn't really get that impression while watching, I thought the communist song was supposed to be a joke. It would have been nice to mention the Americans who died at the plane wreck. They have taken moments like that before at other locations.

So I was right:

On a note that is only somewhat related, that ridiculous performance they had to watch could definitely be said to be propaganda in the U.S.

Ultimately, however, for it to be officially defined as propaganda, it must be proven that the task was featured on the show specifically for the purpose of promoting a political ideology. I don't know that that could be proven in this case. More likely it was featured simply to reveal the culture of the country.

It doesn't really bother me as much as it probably seemed when I first posted (my mistake for using emphatic language), but it is interesting nevertheless.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 22, 2013, 03:22:32 AM
Well I've heard what I might consider American propaganda on the show before, so I think it's nice to have a view from elsewhere.  And as it's a race around the world to broaden people's horizons I assume (rather than just for tourist photography) that could be considered a good thing.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 22, 2013, 11:31:12 AM
I found it interesting to research what are today classified as Socialist countries. Here is what I found:

A socialist country is one where the central government controls basically everything. They plan, control and distribute goods, with a view of having more equity distribution of labor and goods, and these countries are often led by a dictator. The current countries that practice socialism are Burma, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, North Korea and People's Republic of China, Syria, Belarus, Sweden, Laos, Zambia, Turkmenistan. There have been other countries that had this form of government before but have stopped. There are no other European other countries that are completely socialist. The list of socialist countries is most certainly open to alternate views, one of which is that all countries today are essentially capitalist, including Vietnam despite its rhetoric. Another is that Norway, Libya, Algeria, and Namibia could be added to the list.

So, you can decide for yourself what constitutes a Socialist country and whether Vietnam is essentially a Socialist country.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 23, 2013, 04:07:28 AM
Central government controls some aspects of some industries in every single country in the world, so all countries have an element of socialism in them.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: redskevin88 on March 23, 2013, 05:20:00 AM
I found it interesting to research what are today classified as Socialist countries. Here is what I found:

A socialist country is one where the central government controls basically everything. They plan, control and distribute goods, with a view of having more equity distribution of labor and goods, and these countries are often led by a dictator. The current countries that practice socialism are Burma, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, North Korea and People's Republic of China, Syria, Belarus, Sweden, Laos, Zambia, Turkmenistan. There have been other countries that had this form of government before but have stopped. There are no other European other countries that are completely socialist. The list of socialist countries is most certainly open to alternate views, one of which is that all countries today are essentially capitalist, including Vietnam despite its rhetoric. Another is that Norway, Libya, Algeria, and Namibia could be added to the list.

So, you can decide for yourself what constitutes a Socialist country and whether Vietnam is essentially a Socialist country.

The People's Republic of China is not a dictatorship! The PRC is run by a President who is elected by the Chinese Communist Party, which represents the will of the Chinese people... see not a dictatorship.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Air on March 23, 2013, 06:35:01 AM
I found it interesting to research what are today classified as Socialist countries. Here is what I found:

A socialist country is one where the central government controls basically everything. They plan, control and distribute goods, with a view of having more equity distribution of labor and goods, and these countries are often led by a dictator. The current countries that practice socialism are Burma, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, North Korea and People's Republic of China, Syria, Belarus, Sweden, Laos, Zambia, Turkmenistan. There have been other countries that had this form of government before but have stopped. There are no other European other countries that are completely socialist. The list of socialist countries is most certainly open to alternate views, one of which is that all countries today are essentially capitalist, including Vietnam despite its rhetoric. Another is that Norway, Libya, Algeria, and Namibia could be added to the list.

So, you can decide for yourself what constitutes a Socialist country and whether Vietnam is essentially a Socialist country.

The People's Republic of China is not a dictatorship! The PRC is run by a President who is elected by the Chinese Communist Party, which represents the will of the Chinese people... see not a dictatorship.

Apskip said 'are often a dictatorship' which doesn't mean all of them. Sweden isn't a dictatorship either.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 5 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: BuuYaa on March 23, 2013, 09:30:23 AM
CAUTION : Meghan&Joey AHEAD!!!!   :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: