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Title: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 06:58:12 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 06:59:45 PM
Sorry to be late! oopsie, lol!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 10, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
Here we go!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:01:53 PM
Previously on The Amazing Race...

Dave hurt his Achilles tendon. Dave got a walking boot and the EP from Jessica & John.

Chuck & Wynona went fishing at the detour. Dave & Connor used the EP at the detour, and they got to the pit stop first... But the leg is not over yet!

Will Dave & Connor continue? And who will be eliminated next?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
PS, can someone update today? I have a 1000+ word essay to do for a scholarship due in about 4 hours... which uhm, is kind of super rough still. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:03:34 PM
Rewards are endless during spring daylight savings. :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:05:47 PM
Leg 3 Pit Stop: Christchurch, New Zealand.

Dave & Connor open the clue. Fly to Bali, Indonesia. Then proceed to Monkey Forest where a monkey will give the next clue. They decide to continue.

Jessica & John are team #2 at the pit stop. They hope to extract as much value as they can from the EP.

Bates & Anthony are team #3. Pam & Winnie are team #4. Joey & Meghan are team #5. Caroline & Jennifer are team #6. Mona & Beth are team #7. Max & Katie are team #8.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:08:08 PM
They didn't even show teams finishing the shemozzle RB. :gaah:

Chuck & Wynona bowing at the Pit Stop was priceless!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:10:08 PM
Max & Katie call in to get tickets. The earliest flight arrives at 8:30 AM. They reserve those tickets.

Chuck & Wynona are the last team to arrive... but they're still racing! :hearts:

Dave & Connor get on the 8:30 AM flight too. Pam & Winnie get the 8:30 AM flight as well.

Joey & Meghan and Jessica & John can't find any flights. Mona & Beth and Bates & Anthony get some directions to the travel agency. Caroline & Jennifer are trying to get the best connection... Max & Katie arrive to see Caroline & Jennifer. Max & Katie tell them they already got tickets and leave.

Joey & Meghan and Jessica & John get a flight arriving in at 12:05 PM. Mona & Beth arrive at the travel agency... They might not get on the same flight? Bates & Anthony and Chuck & Wynona get on the 12:05 PM flight.

Max & Katie, Caroline & Jennifer, Pam & Winnie and Dave & Connor get on the 8:30 AM flight.

Bates & Anthony, Chuck & Wynona and Mona & Beth get a flight that arrives at 12:05 PM.

Joey & Jessica and Jessica & John get on a different flight that arrives at 12:05 PM. Oh wait... They find a transfer that gets them in at 10:30 AM.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:13:17 PM
I  :luvya: Caroline & Jnnifer's Amazing Race song.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:14:06 PM
First flight lands. Pam & Winnie want a first. They feel like this leg is "the one". Caroline & Jennifer sing in the taxi. Their taxi driver gives them a thumbs up.

Pam & Winnie arrive in the Monkey Forest first. All other teams arrive shortly after. Pam & Winnie for the title. The tourists are scaring away the monkeys... All the teams are waiting for the monkey to smash the coconuts...

Dave & Connor get the first detour clue.

Sandy Bottom: Teams will have to collect sand from the bottom of the river and transfer it 200 yards to the brick maker. They have to fill a bucket to a line.

Fruity Top: Create a religious offering out of fruit. Then it'll be taken to a temple where it has to be approved.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 10, 2013, 07:16:43 PM
Joey and Meghan are just so annoying.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:16:52 PM
All the first four teams got detour clues.

Jessica & John and Joey & Meghan's flight lands.

First four teams arrive at fruity top. They all start creating their fruit cone-things.

Joey had a little funny roleplay as a monkey. :lol3:

Last flight arrives.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
Jessica & John do Fruity Top. Joey & Meghan do Fruity Top too.

Mona & Beth and Chuck & Wynona arrive at Monkey Forest... Bates & Anthony's taxi driver says 5 more minutes... but they're lost.

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 10, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
Dave & Connor : First team in TAR history to open the 3 first DETOUR clues in first place.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 10, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
I hated the rushing in the beginning .. though maybe it's not much of a big deal because I didn't like the Roadblock :lol:

But HOW THE HECK DID BATES & ANTHONY POP UP IN 3RD?!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
Joey and Meghan are just so annoying.
Their monkey "bad lip reading" was just honestly bad. :groan: I'm starting to get a little annoyed by Pam & Winnie as well, but we'll see how these two work out at the end of the episode.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:21:18 PM
Joey and Meghan are just so annoying.
Their monkey "bad lip reading" was just honestly bad. :groan: I'm starting to get a little annoyed by Pam & Winnie as well, but we'll see how these two work out at the end of the episode.

I thought it was hilarious! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:22:26 PM
Bates & Anthony get directions to Monkey Forest.

Mona & Beth are telling their monkey to eat the coconut... Their monkey goes up into the tree and then drops the coconut. Chuck & Wynona get their clue. Chuck thinks it's a whistle. :lol3: They pick Fruity Top. Mona & Beth get their clue.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: ianthebalance on March 10, 2013, 07:23:39 PM
Omg:
For the first three legs, the same teams placed in the top three spots each time.
David and Connor: 3,2,1
John and Jessica: 1,3,2
Bates and Anthony: 2,1,3
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
Pam & Winnie were being really meticulous... and then they look back and they think the others' displays look like fruit thrown on a platter. :lol3: Their offering gets approved. Max & Katie's gets rejected. Dave & Connor's gets approved. Now the fruit display has to be taken outside and put onto a woman's head...

Pam & Winnie are in the first procession. Dave & Connor are in the next procession.

Pam & Winnie are done the detour in first. Proceed to Uluwatu Surf Beach for the next clue. Dave & Connor are done in 2nd.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:26:41 PM
Omg... John & Jess! :lol3: I feel so bad for you...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
John says he and Jessica are detail oriented.

Max & Katie are done putting together the offering. Caroline & Jennifer are too.

Jessica & John are in the wrong place... But they think it's the right place and they think they're putting together a completely different thing. :groan: The local there is so confused... John asks if the local has seen anyone like them yet... The local says no. They find out they're in the wrong place, LOL.

Max & Katie and Caroline & Jennifer are done the detour in 3rd and 4th.

Jessica & John find the right detour.

Bates & Anthony arrive at Monkey Forest. Their monkey is hiding from them.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:29:52 PM
Mona & Beth do the sand detour.

Jessica & John and Joey & Meghan are both at the fruit. Chuck & Wynona arrive.

Bates & Anthony say the clue container looks like a lipstick... "Maybe the girls left it for us." Gag. :res: They choose Fruity Top.

Pam & Winnie arrive at the beach. Roadblock: Who's ready to get totally tubular? Find a surfboard with an image they've seen before... The priest who blessed them in Bora Bora. They have to have the right board to check in. Otherwise, they have to run back to the surf shop and get the right surfboard.

Ew.  That's a bit of nasty business.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:33:52 PM
Winnie does the roadblock. Connor (obviously) does the roadblock.

Winnie figures out it's not a thing seen in a detour or roadblock because not all of them would have experienced it. Winnie gets the priest surfboard...

Max & Katie arrive at the roadblock. Max does the roadblock. Caroline & Jennifer arrive. Caroline does the roadblock.

Back at the sand detour... Mona & Beth carry the sand to the bucket. It's heavy.

Jessica & John's offering gets rejected. They have to start over. Bates & Anthony arrive at the fruit detour to see the other teams still there.

Winnie can't find Phil. She comes back to Connor to ask where Phil is. Connor asks for the board... Winnie won't give it. Connor sneaks a peak and gets it! :lol3: It's a race to the pit stop.

OMG LOL. DAVE & CONNOR ARE THE FIRST AT THE PIT STOP. OMG LOLOLOL. THEY'RE TEAM #1. :lol3: DYING RIGHT NOW. They won $5000 each!

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 10, 2013, 07:34:22 PM
Dave & Connor first place! Awesome!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:34:50 PM
That was just so low of Connor, I'm pretty sure Max & Katie are the nice team while Dave & Connor are actually the evil ones.

However, a part of me is happy for them. Lol
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:35:12 PM
Actually laughing so much. Pam & Winnie and Max & Katie are both going to Phil...

Pam & Winnie arrive at the pit stop. They're team #2. Max & Katie arrive with the correct surfboard. Team #3.

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
2nd - Pam & Winnie
3rd - Max & Katie
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 10, 2013, 07:35:33 PM
That was just so low of Connor, I'm pretty sure Max & Katie are the nice team while Dave & Connor are actually the evil ones.

Nah!!!! Dave & Connor are AWESOME!!!!  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:35:54 PM
Jessica & John get a little bickery bickery with each other. Joey & Meghan's offering gets approved. Jessica asks John if he wants to use the EP... he says no.

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:36:32 PM
That was just so low of Connor, I'm pretty sure Max & Katie are the nice team while Dave & Connor are actually the evil ones.

Evil? Hardly. Hilarious? Yes. :lol3: How did Winnie not notice? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 10, 2013, 07:37:50 PM
That was lowwwwwwww of Connor. Respect lost for them.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 10, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
I would have sneaked a peek too!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:38:49 PM
That was lowwwwwwww of Connor. Respect lost for them.

Am I the only one who thinks this is absolutely hilarious? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Laimis on March 10, 2013, 07:39:09 PM
Guys you are just very pessimistic if you are getting annoyed by such optimistic people like Joey&Meghan =D just sayin'
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
"We've encountered Bali!"

True...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 10, 2013, 07:41:06 PM
No more Shemozzle race </3

But Derby moms at Detour <33333333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:41:13 PM
Back at the detour... Jessica says to switch. John tells her to slow down, or something like that. They switch detours. John says he's not thinking about the EP right now... He's thinking about slow and steady lol.

Chuck & Wynona's offering is approved. Joey & Meghan finish the detour in 5th.

Caroline picks the surfboard that says Bali.

John & Jessica are going to make an EP decision based on Mona & Beth's progress. Mona & Beth finish the detour in 6th.

Caroline & Jennifer get rejected at the pit stop. Caroline has to go back to get the correct surfboard.

Chuck & Wynona are out of the detour in 7th.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Caroline gets a surfboard that has surfers... Caroline says they've encountered surfers. Jennifer: "Where have we encountered surfers?" Caroline cries at the pit stop. Jennifer tells her to calm down.

Mona & Beth say that they've been racing for 4 days! :o

Joey & Meghan find out that they've been taken to the wrong beach! :ascared

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:43:38 PM
"We've encountered Bali!"

True...

That's probably what I would have done. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:48:51 PM
And we're back. Caroline goes back to picking surfboards... Caroline finds "a guy". Turns out it's the priest.

Joey & Meghan are running up a hill to the beach... Chuck & Wynona pass them by taxi. Chuck does the roadblock. Joey does the roadblock.

Jennifer: "What'd you get?" Caroline: "This guy." Caroline guessed right. They're team #4!

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
2nd - Pam & Winnie
3rd - Max & Katie
4th - Caroline & Jennifer
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:51:26 PM
Jessica & John start doing the sand detour. Bates & Anthony finish the fruit detour.

Wow. It's already sunset when Mona & Beth arrive at the roadblock.

Chuck picks a surfboard with a girl with a fruit basket... Joey: "We've encountered what so many times!" :lol3: Chuck is lost. Wynona sees his head.

Jessica & John still doing sand. Bates & Anthony arrive at the roadblock. Joey thinks he has the surfboard. Bates... or is it Anthony sees the priest but he passes on it. Chuck is so lost.

Joey has the right surfboard. They're team #5. Mona & Beth have the wrong surfboard. They have to go back. Joey tells Mona which surfboard it is. :hrt:

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
2nd - Pam & Winnie
3rd - Max & Katie
4th - Caroline & Jennifer
5th - Joey & Meghan
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: WolfgalX on March 10, 2013, 07:52:33 PM
I was questioning why John and Jessica didn't use the Express Pass, but they can also use it on the last task, so...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:52:33 PM
Chuck trying to find Phil like a scolded dog was awesome! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:53:38 PM
Jessica & John are finally done the detour. Geez.

Hockey player having trouble finding Phil. Totally lost.

Mona doesn't tell Chuck which surfboard it is. Jessica & John arrive at the roadblock. John decides to do it. Hockey player keeps passing the red arrow.

Mona and Chuck both are heading to the pit stop...

Mona & Beth are team #6. Chuck's board is still wrong. Mona didn't want to tell Chuck which board it was. Bates & Anthony have the right board. They're team #7.

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
2nd - Pam & Winnie
3rd - Max & Katie
4th - Caroline & Jennifer
5th - Joey & Meghan
6th - Mona & Beth
7th - Bates & Anthony
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:54:24 PM
Chuck and John are the last two...

Chuck picks a surfboard... They've headed to Phil... OMG THEY HAVE THE RIGHT BOARD! :hearts:

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
2nd - Pam & Winnie
3rd - Max & Katie
4th - Caroline & Jennifer
5th - Joey & Meghan
6th - Mona & Beth
7th - Bates & Anthony
8th - Chuck & Wynona
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: WolfgalX on March 10, 2013, 07:55:20 PM
I think this is John's downfall - he's more concerned with finishing this task than finishing the race...Jessica obviously wants to quit.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 10, 2013, 07:56:23 PM
How can you guys be so stupid? You had an Express Pass and never used it?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 07:56:39 PM
"You're not allowed to look at those."

John & Jessica = MADE A NEW RECORD (First team eliminated with an Express Pass)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 10, 2013, 07:57:14 PM
What da hell is going on in my life right now
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
John couldn't recognize the surfboard... He goes back to Jessica. Jessica knows they're last. John decides to keep going. He has a night light on.

Phil rejects him. Jessica is bummed that they had an EP that they didn't use. John doesn't think the EP will benefit him. It's been 1 hour 15 minutes... John picks the right surfboard. They've been eliminated. They're the first team ever to be eliminated with the EP. John doesn't think he should look back and think about it with regret... YOU HAD AN EP THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE USED TO NOT BE ELIMINATED. HOW CAN YOU BE SO CALM ABOUT IT. Jessica thinks they should have used the EP, lol.

Phil looks at the camera... and says something while shrugging? Confused music going on. I'm confused. :lol3:

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
2nd - Pam & Winnie
3rd - Max & Katie
4th - Caroline & Jennifer
5th - Joey & Meghan
6th - Mona & Beth
7th - Bates & Anthony
8th - Chuck & Wynona
9th - Jessica & John (ELIMINATED)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
John is so stubborn, holy moly.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Theo on March 10, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
 :lol3: :lol3: This episode is just what-in-the-world-is-going-on!

 :lol3: :lol3: at Phil's comment.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: TARAsia Fan on March 10, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
The first team ever to be eliminated with an Express Pass in its pocket.

John: "I don't need a million dollars." Good, give it to me.

Oy vey is right, Phil.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 10, 2013, 08:00:17 PM
Oh my god @ new look Double U-Turn <3
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Polaroid on March 10, 2013, 08:00:21 PM
Next week on The Amazing Race...

Will Dave & Connor's improbable streak continue? Dave thinks that they could win the race.

DOUBLE U-TURN! Seems like there's some dramaaa.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 08:01:33 PM
And the Good Wife begins...

Overall, this episode felt lackluster in my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: David on March 10, 2013, 08:03:17 PM
Back at the detour... Jessica says to switch. John tells her to slow down, or something like that. They switch detours. John says he's not thinking about the EP right now... He's thinking about slow and steady lol.

LOL think twice.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 10, 2013, 08:03:50 PM
Next week on The Amazing Race...

Will Dave & Connor's improbable streak continue? Dave thinks that they could win the race.

DOUBLE U-TURN! Seems like there's some dramaaa.
Well, obviously Dave & Connor reached the next Pit Stop from the preview... :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: sapphirepit on March 10, 2013, 08:03:53 PM
John clearly had some kind of mental breakdown on this leg.

Not upset they were eliminated though. Wonder what'll happen to their relationship though. Wish we still had elimination station!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: David on March 10, 2013, 08:03:54 PM
:lol3: :lol3: at Phil's comment.

Phil is quite amazed as how John made as if nothing bad happened to them.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 10, 2013, 08:04:38 PM
I loved this episode. One of the best.

Man that John looked real crazy at the end. It does look like he has a problem with admitting he was wrong.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 10, 2013, 08:09:23 PM
Idk about this episode..

Maybe because the leg was completely spoiled so there wasn't much suspense to it :LOL:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: ilhamrizki on March 10, 2013, 08:13:29 PM
John, are you sick? Why you not use your express pass?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on March 10, 2013, 08:14:02 PM
Interesting episode, and I do think some teams were affected in Bali from the pair of long connections out of Bora Bora to Bali with the quick intermediate leg in New Zealand.

At least a few of the teams did recognize the priest from Bora Bora on the surfboards without help, so all hope isn't lost; but that is where the KF comes into play so early in this Race.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Bwils927 on March 10, 2013, 08:18:47 PM
What an episode. Foreshadowing throughout with the XP comment in the cab in New Zealand, to the "We're both detail oriented" comments. This year the men in the two couples are way too analytical of everything, and the girls end up being right on everything with little to no thinking  :lol3: I just can't believe they didn't use the express pass. She said it twice at the fruit detour, once on the way to the coal detour, once at the coal detour, and once at the roadblock, and he still didn't listen. Stubborn as hell!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: ilhamrizki on March 10, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
Luckily, this season there is no Double Your Money. You'll know why.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 10, 2013, 08:32:30 PM
What an episode. Foreshadowing throughout with the XP comment in the cab in New Zealand, to the "We're both detail oriented" comments. This year the men in the two couples are way too analytical of everything, and the girls end up being right on everything with little to no thinking  :lol3: I just can't believe they didn't use the express pass. She said it twice at the fruit detour, once on the way to the coal detour, once at the coal detour, and once at the roadblock, and he still didn't listen. Stubborn as hell!

Wasn't it John at the Detour who wanted to use the Pass?
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Post by: Bwils927 on March 10, 2013, 08:36:13 PM
I don't think so I just remember Jess insisting on it all episode.
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Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 10, 2013, 08:37:21 PM
well i'm not shocked at all. i knew John was the last person at he roadblock, but what's wrong with you John??? Dumbest move ever, eliminated with an Express Pass. it's just like voted off on Survivor with an idol in your pocket. I feel bad for Jessica. Are they still together now?  :bounce
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Post by: Bwils927 on March 10, 2013, 08:39:16 PM
Probably. They never fought, although they argued about the XP but they weren't vicious about it or anything. i'd be surprised to find out if they broke up.
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Post by: Jimmer on March 10, 2013, 08:42:13 PM
In their team intro, they said they were planning on getting married, but haven't been engaged yet.

I also find it ironic that in their intro picture they were standing next to surfboards. :lol3:
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Post by: Bwils927 on March 10, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
In their team intro, they said they were planning on getting married, but haven't been engaged yet.

I also find it ironic that in their intro picture they were standing next to surfboards. :lol3:
its really because they're surfers, but I guarantee that production wanted an emphasis on that  :lol3: :lol3:
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Post by: Jobby on March 10, 2013, 11:06:28 PM
Their elimination was more of because of the Detour I think. Even if John used his EP immediately at the Roadblock, I think they would have been eliminated anyway.

Connor <//////////3 cheaters never win, not the entire race. DISLIKE. :lol3:
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Post by: Alenaveda on March 10, 2013, 11:43:52 PM
For one instante, I thought they would do the same as Davechel in Asunción.   Fail attempting to perform one Detour and skip the other one with the EP.   :groan:
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Post by: supah on March 11, 2013, 12:57:53 AM
Can I just say how much I LOVED the coconut clue at the monkey sanctuary? Very creative touch producers - nice one!  :hearts:

HAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG LAUGHING SO HARD AND JJ AT THAT RANDOM GUY'S HOUSE DOING THE 'DETOUR'

Love the Detour options as well! This episode is off to a good start!

Pam & Winnie got robbed of 1st place. Not happy!

Poor Jessica.. she really looked liked she wanted to continue on! I am annoyed at John for not playing the EP, but then again, good on him for not giving up!
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Post by: ovalorange on March 11, 2013, 02:08:45 AM
Their elimination was more of because of the Detour I think. Even if John used his EP immediately at the Roadblock, I think they would have been eliminated anyway.

No? He was clearly at the roadblock at the same time as Chuck. They easily could have used the Express pass and survived. John's ego got in the way... I still can't believe he continued to be a douche and deny Jessica's suggestion of using the express Pass even when they were last.

Even if he wasn't in last, it was clear he didn't recognise the picture, why the hell did he continue going and not use the Express Pass? Remember, a saved express pass doesn't help you later on if you're eliminated :lol:

Their whole elimination made me laugh, I really felt like John got what he deserved. Such a shame Jessica actually wanted to play it smart because she seemed like a good and nice competitor :(

Also ew at the fact that Connor cheated off Winnie. Seriously, how did he not get a penalty for it? There's a difference between sharing answers and stealing them off someone else. He cleared looked at her answer when she didn't want him to.
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Post by: Jobby on March 11, 2013, 02:18:48 AM
And stole their first place.

Oval, I haven't watch the episode yet. But I think you are right, John = stupidity at its best.

Not that it matters. CHUCK AND WYNONA SURVIVED <3
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Post by: starrynight on March 11, 2013, 04:25:33 AM
Well that was the best leg in this season, and it was better than any leg last season, so  The Amazing Race might be back on track again.  That's a relief as the previous season really disappointed me.

Felt sorry for the woman who got eliminated, but the guy she was with seemed like a jerk so I guess that's on her.
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Post by: alecbaldwin on March 11, 2013, 04:33:26 AM
Their elimination was more of because of the Detour I think. Even if John used his EP immediately at the Roadblock, I think they would have been eliminated anyway.

No? He was clearly at the roadblock at the same time as Chuck. They easily could have used the Express pass and survived. John's ego got in the way... I still can't believe he continued to be a douche and deny Jessica's suggestion of using the express Pass even when they were last.

Even if he wasn't in last, it was clear he didn't recognise the picture, why the hell did he continue going and not use the Express Pass? Remember, a saved express pass doesn't help you later on if you're eliminated :lol:

Their whole elimination made me laugh, I really felt like John got what he deserved. Such a shame Jessica actually wanted to play it smart because she seemed like a good and nice competitor :(

Also ew at the fact that Connor cheated off Winnie. Seriously, how did he not get a penalty for it? There's a difference between sharing answers and stealing them off someone else. He cleared looked at her answer when she didn't want him to.

So what is the differ between stealing a cab and that? No penalty was absolutely right.

A smart team would do anything to win even lie and cheat. Did you remember?!  :lol3:
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Post by: alecbaldwin on March 11, 2013, 05:01:16 AM
Their elimination was more of because of the Detour I think. Even if John used his EP immediately at the Roadblock, I think they would have been eliminated anyway.

No? He was clearly at the roadblock at the same time as Chuck. They easily could have used the Express pass and survived. John's ego got in the way... I still can't believe he continued to be a douche and deny Jessica's suggestion of using the express Pass even when they were last.

Even if he wasn't in last, it was clear he didn't recognise the picture, why the hell did he continue going and not use the Express Pass? Remember, a saved express pass doesn't help you later on if you're eliminated :lol:

Their whole elimination made me laugh, I really felt like John got what he deserved. Such a shame Jessica actually wanted to play it smart because she seemed like a good and nice competitor :(

Also ew at the fact that Connor cheated off Winnie. Seriously, how did he not get a penalty for it? There's a difference between sharing answers and stealing them off someone else. He cleared looked at her answer when she didn't want him to.

So what is the differ between stealing a cab and that? No penalty was absolutely right.

A smart team would do anything to win even lie and cheat. Did you remember?  :lol3:

At least  he cheated but didn't lie.
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Post by: alecbaldwin on March 11, 2013, 05:02:00 AM
Their elimination was more of because of the Detour I think. Even if John used his EP immediately at the Roadblock, I think they would have been eliminated anyway.

No? He was clearly at the roadblock at the same time as Chuck. They easily could have used the Express pass and survived. John's ego got in the way... I still can't believe he continued to be a douche and deny Jessica's suggestion of using the express Pass even when they were last.

Even if he wasn't in last, it was clear he didn't recognise the picture, why the hell did he continue going and not use the Express Pass? Remember, a saved express pass doesn't help you later on if you're eliminated :lol:

Their whole elimination made me laugh, I really felt like John got what he deserved. Such a shame Jessica actually wanted to play it smart because she seemed like a good and nice competitor :(

Also ew at the fact that Connor cheated off Winnie. Seriously, how did he not get a penalty for it? There's a difference between sharing answers and stealing them off someone else. He cleared looked at her answer when she didn't want him to.

So what is the differ between stealing a cab and that? No penalty was absolutely right.

A smart team would do anything to win even lie and cheat. Did you remember?  :lol3:

At least  he cheated but didn't lie.  :lol3:

Stealing cab slow other team down but what he done doesn't.
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Post by: ovalorange on March 11, 2013, 05:44:35 AM
The point is that Connor stole an answer for the actual task when Winnie specifically stated beforehand she wasn't willing to show him it. John wasn't able to see the surfboards teams who had previous checked in used - Phil outright denied him. So how is Connor's move any different?

Stealing a cab is fine - it's not the team's property, it's the cab driver's car and it's up to them on who they choose to take. The surfboard was Winnie's answer, she was in possession of it and chose not to share it. It's something that she owned and it was stolen from her, hence Connor and Dave ripped the girls off first place.
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Post by: BuuYaa on March 11, 2013, 05:53:34 AM
Well that was the best leg in this season, and it was better than any leg last season, so  The Amazing Race might be back on track again.  That's a relief as the previous season really disappointed me.

Really? Well I live in Indonesia but I still prefer legs in Bora-Bora because it's so beautiful there. But Bali is excellent  :wohoo:
and yeah like last season why on earth they went to Surabaya  (:;) (:;) (:;) instead of Bali

Yogyakarta I get it, they're so cultured there, but Surabaya?  :crazy:

It's like the production wanted to have a leg in Jakarta but it was too large of a city with traffics everywhere all the time that they were just like "let's move to the another large city", which is Surabaya.


Their elimination was more of because of the Detour I think. Even if John used his EP immediately at the Roadblock, I think they would have been eliminated anyway.

No? He was clearly at the roadblock at the same time as Chuck. They easily could have used the Express pass and survived. John's ego got in the way... I still can't believe he continued to be a douche and deny Jessica's suggestion of using the express Pass even when they were last.

Even if he wasn't in last, it was clear he didn't recognise the picture, why the hell did he continue going and not use the Express Pass? Remember, a saved express pass doesn't help you later on if you're eliminated :lol:

Their whole elimination made me laugh, I really felt like John got what he deserved. Such a shame Jessica actually wanted to play it smart because she seemed like a good and nice competitor :(

Also ew at the fact that Connor cheated off Winnie. Seriously, how did he not get a penalty for it? There's a difference between sharing answers and stealing them off someone else. He cleared looked at her answer when she didn't want him to.

So what is the differ between stealing a cab and that? No penalty was absolutely right.

A smart team would do anything to win even lie and cheat. Did you remember?  :lol3:

At least  he cheated but didn't lie.  :lol3:

Stealing cab slow other team down but what he done doesn't.

As soon as John saw Chuck at the RB, he could easily just took a random surfboard, find Jessica, and run to the pit-stop. they will then used the express pass there

John was not in the same place as Jessica doing the RB

only Jessica knew they were last because Wynona told her. Remember that Chuck&Wynona checked in with Mona&Beth, Mona&Beth got 6th, and they may have bumped into Bates&Antohony somewhere or while running back to the RB location. Bates&Anthony never seemed to return so Wynona knew she and Chuck were second to last as soon as JJ arrived

John may assume that they were not last, because he saw Chuck, not knowing that he already checked in once and knew where he stood. and I think Chuck kept John in the dark saying that Bates&Anthony or one other team were still behind so John didn't use the EP and that allowed him and Wynona to check in before JJ decided to utilize their EP

wait...




nah! it's just John's ridiculous principal

(although if Chuck actually did what I thought, HATS OFF!!!!)  :bounce
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Post by: BuuYaa on March 11, 2013, 06:09:20 AM
The point is that Connor stole an answer for the actual task when Winnie specifically stated beforehand she wasn't willing to show him it. John wasn't able to see the surfboards teams who had previous checked in used - Phil outright denied him. So how is Connor's move any different?

Stealing a cab is fine - it's not the team's property, it's the cab driver's car and it's up to them on who they choose to take. The surfboard was Winnie's answer, she was in possession of it and chose not to share it. It's something that she owned and it was stolen from her, hence Connor and Dave ripped the girls off first place.

But the surfboards in the pit-stop were already checked in, meaning they were the correct ones. Pam&Winnie hasn't checked in. So assuming  that Phil still didn't know that Winnie's pick was correct or not. Had she picked the wrong one, Connor's would also be wrong. That's why Connor were not penalized and John were not allowed to see the surfboards at the pit stop. Fair enough actually, for me. I don't know though maybe people here have different opinions

I never really liked Dave&Connor in the first place though. I always knew they were one of those "sneaky-let's-try-screw-another-teams" teams.turned out I am right

Don't you worry they'll get BOOTED somewhere, hopefully in Botswana, even better in Vietnam  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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Post by: starrynight on March 11, 2013, 07:41:35 AM
She should have put her hand over the image so they couldn't see it.

And the Bora Bora leg may have been a nice location, but I need more than that to enjoy this program as it's meant to be a race.  This leg was the best so far as it had race excitement.
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Post by: apskip on March 11, 2013, 09:01:27 AM
Their elimination was more of because of the Detour I think. Even if John used his EP immediately at the Roadblock, I think they would have been eliminated anyway.

Connor <//////////3 cheaters never win, not the entire race. DISLIKE. :lol3:
The issue was not using the Express Pass at the beginning of the ROADBLOCK. It was too late then. However, it should have been used instead of switching to the Sandy bottom DETOUR, as that took unnecessary time. John would certainly have been ahead of Bates/Anthony at that time and maybe also some other teams. There would have been more correct surfboards to find, so he would have done so much earlier and saved his team from elimination.

Why didn't Jessica and John do that? We will have to read the interviews coming out this week to find out.
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Post by: realshowfan on March 11, 2013, 09:23:45 AM
Oh good no more Meghan & Cheyne TAR22 version (they're not really like them, they just reminded me of them). I honestly couldn't tell if John was stating that principle of his because he fully believes in it or he's first being positive and then when Jessica told him they were last he started saying things like 'I'm not gonna give up' and not show any frustration and keep forcing a smile all the way to the end. I mean, it's just hard to watch because I do respect them as racers but John, as the one visibly dominating the team's decisions, wasn't being realistic/strategic enough.

Connor lost a bit of respect for me, maybe he wanted to win a bit too much, but maybe that's just the heat of the moment.

I'm just wondering why the preview for next eppy show Mona & Beth and Joey & Meghan as targets.  :(

On the whole, Bora Bora and then Bali? <333
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Post by: starrynight on March 11, 2013, 09:55:03 AM
But a team was still at the roadblock when they arrived, so they could still have used the EP if they had done so straight away and saved themselves?

Do they have to have each teammate do an equal amount of roadblocks now (which I think is the better rules)?  I suspect not, which means the father and son could survive longer than you might expect.

Also it seemed to me that they were given alot of info as to which detour to choose, but very little information as to what the roadblock entailed.
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Post by: BuuYaa on March 11, 2013, 10:19:59 AM
But a team was still at the roadblock when they arrived, so they could still have used the EP if they had done so straight away and saved themselves?

maybe Chuck told John something like "Hey John you know Bates&Anthony haven't arrived yet."
LOL That would be so epic should've made the cut had it happened

I adore Chuck&Wynona
but technically, only Jessica knew they were the last two because Wynona told her. And she was not at the same place with John. John didn't know and Chuck did. he screwed him a little telling John there's one team that hasn't arrived to make sure JJ not using the EP until he&Wynona checked in.
Well I didn't think Chuck will do something like that but if he did,  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

When John first went back to Jessica, he did think and say that there's one team behind them (and that was after Chuck&Wynona already checked in). I mean who would've told him that if it wasn't Chuck? The only other teams JJ encountered at the RB was Chuck&Wynona

What JJ should've done was actually Expresspassing the Detour as Jessica wished. They would've gotten 5th place. They would BE with Joey&Meghan in the RB who would most likely help them.


Connor lost a bit of respect for me, maybe he wanted to win a bit too much, but maybe that's just the heat of the moment.

I'm just wondering why the preview for next eppy show Mona & Beth and Joey & Meghan as targets.  :(


I think the alliance is noticed by the other teams...
Or maybe Mona&Beth-Joey&Meghan antagonizing themselves with every other teams ala Nick&Starr-Ken&Tina. They would ONLY help each other, even screw another teams

At least the alliance of Trey&Lexi-Natalie&Nadiya only antagonizing Abby&Ryan LOL

Or maybe Mona&Beth-Joey&Meghan want to use the U-turn but they're not telling on whom. The other teams heard them. So that's why Jennifer said "We just have to get there before Joey&Meghan and RollerDerbies"




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Post by: BuuYaa on March 11, 2013, 10:29:01 AM

Do they have to have each teammate do an equal amount of roadblocks now (which I think is the better rules)?  I suspect not, which means the father and son could survive longer than you might expect.


Yup they possibly could.
Connor already done 4 RBs. By the time they reached Leg 7, Dave would have to do the rest of the RBs. Unless they're having a Detour-Only-leg somewhere, or another Double-RBs-No-Detour-leg, meaning Connor will be eligible to perform another RB even if he already done 6.




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Post by: starrynight on March 11, 2013, 10:59:17 AM
No spoilers on future locations please.

I had no idea what Phil said at the end, but looked it up on the internet.  Apparently most Americans know what it means as I don't see many people asking on the internet.
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Post by: lmkpickle on March 11, 2013, 11:05:46 AM
Long time reader, New Poster.

So I COMPLETELY agree that Connor was wrong for cheating. I would even say he stole information.  However, last season the twins stole money, a physical thing, from James/Abba, and got no penalty, so if they gave Dave/Connor a penalty, that would make no sense.  Besides, teams look at other teams' work or progress frequently, so that penalty would have to be given out every leg.  I do not think it was fair for them to win the leg by cheating though.  I agree, it knocked them down a bit on my teams I like list.

I also think that switching detours was not a stupid move for John/Jessica.  If they used the express pass without even trying the second detour, it would've been stupid.  However, they DEFINITELY should've used it at the road block, especially once John had a hard time.  After he looked through and said "I don't get this," Chuck and Wynonna were still there, they could've won.  In the end, I was sad for Jess and happy for John to go. John just lost his mind at the end.

As far as Dave/Connor with road blocks...They're screwed.  Do we know when they are eliminated? Because Connor has done almost all of his, and Dave is not going to miraculously recover in the next two legs to be able to complete his six.  So they dug their own grave.

Wonder what will happen with the Double U Turn.  And the wasted express pass.  Maybe it'll just be wasted, but it'd be interesting if they gave it to the next first place team...

Just some thoughts...
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Post by: BuuYaa on March 11, 2013, 11:36:50 AM
Long time reader, New Poster.

So I COMPLETELY agree that Connor was wrong for cheating. I would even say he stole information.  However, last season the twins stole money, a physical thing, from James/Abba, and got no penalty, so if they gave Dave/Connor a penalty, that would make no sense.  Besides, teams look at other teams' work or progress frequently, so that penalty would have to be given out every leg.  I do not think it was fair for them to win the leg by cheating though.  I agree, it knocked them down a bit on my teams I like list.

I also think that switching detours was not a stupid move for John/Jessica.  If they used the express pass without even trying the second detour, it would've been stupid.  However, they DEFINITELY should've used it at the road block, especially once John had a hard time.  After he looked through and said "I don't get this," Chuck and Wynonna were still there, they could've won.  In the end, I was sad for Jess and happy for John to go. John just lost his mind at the end.

As far as Dave/Connor with road blocks...They're screwed.  Do we know when they are eliminated? Because Connor has done almost all of his, and Dave is not going to miraculously recover in the next two legs to be able to complete his six.  So they dug their own grave.

Wonder what will happen with the Double U Turn.  And the wasted express pass.  Maybe it'll just be wasted, but it'd be interesting if they gave it to the next first place team...

Just some thoughts...

Dave&Connor didn't have to be penalized. I wish they were. It's just what they did was really low, regards on the image that they're trying to make to us viewers think on how they survived cancer, they're nice, sweet... meh!

On the Detour, yeah maybe it was good for JJ to switch. But evidently, switching Detours was what put them in Last Place to begin with. Then they got to the RB, which is the MOST CRUCIAL time for them to use the EP.They did see another team but John never really intended using the EP. I don't know why. Could be Chuck lying to John that there's still another team behind, could be the principal of John, I don't know.

If they had used the EP on the Detour, they could do the RB without being so hasty. Joey&Meghan, Chuck&Wynona, Mona&Beth, Anthony&Bates would be all behind them. and Since when JJ decided to switch they have to use a cab to get the other detour, if it were me, I'd just express pass the damn detour and save more money for cabs. I don't know though LOL

In addition, to get to the RB from detour location is actually quite far. 2-3 hours by cab if traffics are good.

Well maybe we would have one of those not so physically challenging RB like eating fallopian tubes in Shanghai or unlocking trees of love or selling stuffs that Dave could do.
But with their 3rd,2nd,1st,1st + CAUTION : Double U-Turn ahead, OMG dude!!!  :gaah:''

It's being proven that for the last  couple legs, every time they encounter the detour, one detour was always not even an option for them.
If same goes for another legs, and they got U-turned,pheeww... I wonder if Dave would still yell out"" YEEHAAAA""






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Post by: theschnauzers on March 11, 2013, 11:46:32 AM
Teams have taken the opportunity to see what other teams were doing/did in the past, so Connor taking a peek at Winnie's surfboard before Phil checked either team at the mat was not an issue. He still had to check in behind Winnie and Pam, so it did not give him a benefit at that point. And it did not impede any other team still out on the race course. That, to me, made that a non-issue. (This is where the TAR 14 penalty is distinguishable.)

As to John and the EP, the odd thing is that teams did not have a clue giver at the roadblock, they were instructed to take the surfboard to Phil. I note people are assuming that the EP would have to be presented to Phil, but I have to admit it was a bit ambiguous, and I have to wonder if John's thinking in part might have had something to do with that issue.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: lmkpickle on March 11, 2013, 11:51:05 AM
Long time reader, New Poster.

So I COMPLETELY agree that Connor was wrong for cheating. I would even say he stole information.  However, last season the twins stole money, a physical thing, from James/Abba, and got no penalty, so if they gave Dave/Connor a penalty, that would make no sense.  Besides, teams look at other teams' work or progress frequently, so that penalty would have to be given out every leg.  I do not think it was fair for them to win the leg by cheating though.  I agree, it knocked them down a bit on my teams I like list.

I also think that switching detours was not a stupid move for John/Jessica.  If they used the express pass without even trying the second detour, it would've been stupid.  However, they DEFINITELY should've used it at the road block, especially once John had a hard time.  After he looked through and said "I don't get this," Chuck and Wynonna were still there, they could've won.  In the end, I was sad for Jess and happy for John to go. John just lost his mind at the end.

As far as Dave/Connor with road blocks...They're screwed.  Do we know when they are eliminated? Because Connor has done almost all of his, and Dave is not going to miraculously recover in the next two legs to be able to complete his six.  So they dug their own grave.

Wonder what will happen with the Double U Turn.  And the wasted express pass.  Maybe it'll just be wasted, but it'd be interesting if they gave it to the next first place team...

Just some thoughts...

Dave&Connor didn't have to be penalized. I wish they were. It's just what they did was really low, regards on the image that they're trying to make to us viewers think on how they survived cancer, they're nice, sweet... meh!

On the Detour, yeah maybe it was good for JJ to switch. But evidently, switching Detours was what put them in Last Place to begin with. Then they got to the RB, which is the MOST CRUCIAL time for them to use the EP.They did see another team but John never really intended using the EP. I don't know why. Could be Chuck lying to John that there's still another team behind, could be the principal of John, I don't know.

If they had used the EP on the Detour, they could do the RB without being so hasty. Joey&Meghan, Chuck&Wynona, Mona&Beth, Anthony&Bates would be all behind them. and Since when JJ decided to switch they have to use a cab to get the other detour, if it were me, I'd just express pass the damn detour and save more money for cabs. I don't know though LOL

In addition, to get to the RB from detour location is actually quite far. 2-3 hours by cab if traffics are good.

Well maybe we would have one of those not so physically challenging RB like eating fallopian tubes in Shanghai or unlocking trees of love or selling stuffs that Dave could do.
But with their 3rd,2nd,1st,1st + CAUTION : Double U-Turn ahead, OMG dude!!!  :gaah:''

It's being proven that for the last  couple legs, every time they encounter the detour, one detour was always not even an option for them.
If same goes for another legs, and they got U-turned,pheeww... I wonder if Dave would still yell out"" YEEHAAAA""

Yeah, I do wish they were able to be penalized.  Or maybe just karma. Like Connor hurt his ankle on the way in. Imagine??!?
And yeah, in hindsight I totally agree that they should've used the EP at the detour.  However, I know myself in that moment, and I would want to go check out the other side.  Keep in mind that they hadn't seen Roller Derby moms at all, so they assumed they were still behind them.  So I totally understand them not passing on the detour in the moment.  I even see them not immediately passing on the road block because they all thought it was surfing, and let's be real, in a surfing challenge, John would've finished in a fraction of the time that they other teams would.  But once he tried once, that was their ideal moment.

In the end, what's done is done. They didn't use it, and I feel bad for Jess.

Hope Dave/Connor go home now. I'm glad people agree that even with their story they were wrong.  They deserve to lose popularity because that was lame.

Unfolding to be an interesting season. Can't wait for next week  :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: gator27 on March 11, 2013, 12:06:39 PM

Joey has the right surfboard. They're team #5. Mona & Beth have the wrong surfboard. They have to go back. Joey tells Mona which surfboard it is. :hrt:

Pit stop:
1st - Dave & Connor
2nd - Pam & Winnie
3rd - Max & Katie
4th - Caroline & Jennifer
5th - Joey & Meghan

Interesting that many are upset that Connor "stole" a peek of the surfboard logo while Joey told Mona the correct information. In front of Phil no less.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 11, 2013, 12:11:30 PM
Exactly my thought. What Connor did was NOT wrong , people.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 11, 2013, 12:34:07 PM
Teams have taken the opportunity to see what other teams were doing/did in the past, so Connor taking a peek at Winnie's surfboard before Phil checked either team at the mat was not an issue. He still had to check in behind Winnie and Pam, so it did not give him a benefit at that point. And it did not impede any other team still out on the race course. That, to me, made that a non-issue. (This is where the TAR 14 penalty is distinguishable.)

As to John and the EP, the odd thing is that teams did not have a clue giver at the roadblock, they were instructed to take the surfboard to Phil. I note people are assuming that the EP would have to be presented to Phil, but I have to admit it was a bit ambiguous, and I have to wonder if John's thinking in part might have had something to do with that issue.

I guess there was someone at the surf boards they could have given the express pass to, or they could have given it to Phil.  I'm sure they would have been advised who they should give it to had they said they wanted to use it.

I didn't have much of an issue with Connor, I suspect most don't.  However there is a limit to peeking, I'm pretty sure it isn't allowed on the final memory task.  But here when things are out in the open and people have to protect the information they have then they had best do that. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Laimis on March 11, 2013, 01:21:58 PM
Well Joey share it with Mona because he wanted to and there is no rule against it, but Connor just peeked for himself to Winnie's board, when she didn't want to. So Connor was defenetly not nice at this point ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 11, 2013, 07:49:02 PM
Well Joey share it with Mona because he wanted to and there is no rule against it, but Connor just peeked for himself to Winnie's board, when she didn't want to. So Connor was defenetly not nice at this point ;)

i agree with this. i like Dave/Connor from the beginning but after what Connor did, i don't know... :( 
Pam & Winnie deserved the 1st place
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: alecbaldwin on March 11, 2013, 08:15:48 PM
The point is that Connor stole an answer for the actual task when Winnie specifically stated beforehand she wasn't willing to show him it. John wasn't able to see the surfboards teams who had previous checked in used - Phil outright denied him. So how is Connor's move any different?

Stealing a cab is fine - it's not the team's property, it's the cab driver's car and it's up to them on who they choose to take. The surfboard was Winnie's answer, she was in possession of it and chose not to share it. It's something that she owned and it was stolen from her, hence Connor and Dave ripped the girls off first place.

Don't blame taxi drivers for that. They drive for money. That's thier job. So when you come to to them and say you'll pay more extra we all know what will happen next.

How about follow other teams? That's the kind of stealing information too when they don't want you follow them on the race and many teams did that include some winning teams but you guys still like them. It's a part of the game so live with it.

Even when Connor take the answer form Winnie, he still don't know pit stop yet and Winnie's still ahead of him. Pam & Winnie lose first place because Winnie lost her way to pit stop so don't blame all to Connor. It's very low of you guys to do that.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 11, 2013, 09:54:33 PM
A taxi driver's job is to serve their customers as well.  If a taxi wasted my time I certainly wouldn't use that company again, and that ultimately hurts the employers of the taxi driver.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Air on March 12, 2013, 05:34:22 AM
So what is being said here is that what Connor did is not ethically correct... much like the Twinnies' move last year to claim James & Abba's money is incorrect. I support Kiwi in saying that if you're in the middle of the race you WOULDN'T peek at that? I think that each and every one of you would, sorry. Connor did what he had to do to win the leg, which was bending the rules but not breaking them. So he did what he had to do to advance his team in the Race, and the Race is cutthroat, as we have seen in recent seasons.

But I still don't like them for doing it, ugh.

Pam & Winnie love <333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on March 12, 2013, 09:58:27 AM
Dave and Connor <3333333
(I haven't loved any Father/Son team since... liek... Nick and Don (and they aren't even father/son :lol:) forever? )
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 12, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
Dave and Connor <3333333
(I haven't loved any Father/Son team since... liek... Nick and Don (and they aren't even father/son :lol:) forever? )
You didn't like Mel & Mike? :o
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on March 12, 2013, 01:11:54 PM
Dave and Connor <3333333
(I haven't loved any Father/Son team since... liek... Nick and Don (and they aren't even father/son :lol:) forever? )
You didn't like Mel & Mike? :o

Oh, yes. Mel and Mike! Yes yes (the TAR14 version of themselves, though)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: ZouLy on March 12, 2013, 01:37:25 PM
Glad to have Indonesia broke another record/history  :hrt:

S19 : Double Elimination
S21 : Double Blind U-Turn
S22 : First team to be Eliminated with an Express Pass in their pocket :P

Want some more record breaking and history making episode? Visit Indonesia  ;)

There are still heaps of islands and cultures to be explored!

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 12, 2013, 01:49:37 PM
Glad to have Indonesia broke another record/history  :hrt:

S19 : Double Elimination
S21 : Double Blind U-Turn
S22 : First team to be Eliminated with an Express Pass in their pocket :P

Want some more record breaking and history making episode? Visit Indonesia  ;)

There are still heaps of islands and cultures to be explored!
Also, Indonesia is the first foreign country visited in TARAustralia!  TARAsia also featured their first Fast Forward in Jakarta.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 12, 2013, 02:27:52 PM
Glad to have Indonesia broke another record/history  :hrt:

S19 : Double Elimination
S21 : Double Blind U-Turn
S22 : First team to be Eliminated with an Express Pass in their pocket :P

Want some more record breaking and history making episode? Visit Indonesia  ;)

There are still heaps of islands and cultures to be explored!

hahaha... everyone will upset if they come to Indonesia again next season. We need a break Zouly. Yes, we have more than 17000 islands, so many ethnics & cultures.  i'm sure they'll be back, maybe season 25 (All stars edition) *finger crossed*
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: themikko95 on March 12, 2013, 08:10:50 PM
The point is that Connor stole an answer for the actual task when Winnie specifically stated beforehand she wasn't willing to show him it. John wasn't able to see the surfboards teams who had previous checked in used - Phil outright denied him. So how is Connor's move any different?

Stealing a cab is fine - it's not the team's property, it's the cab driver's car and it's up to them on who they choose to take. The surfboard was Winnie's answer, she was in possession of it and chose not to share it. It's something that she owned and it was stolen from her, hence Connor and Dave ripped the girls off first place.

Don't blame taxi drivers for that. They drive for money. That's thier job. So when you come to to them and say you'll pay more extra we all know what will happen next.

How about follow other teams? That's the kind of stealing information too when they don't want you follow them on the race and many teams did that include some winning teams but you guys still like them. It's a part of the game so live with it.

Even when Connor take the answer form Winnie, he still don't know pit stop yet and Winnie's still ahead of him. Pam & Winnie lose first place because Winnie lost her way to pit stop so don't blame all to Connor. It's very low of you guys to do that.

But it could've taken Connor a while to search for the right board.  :( I don't know. I think we're all just sad that Pam and Winnie were so close to getting first. I really think they deserved to get first this leg. They did everything without any help and completed all the tasks efficiently.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: starrynight on March 13, 2013, 12:45:28 PM
So what is being said here is that what Connor did is not ethically correct... much like the Twinnies' move last year to claim James & Abba's money is incorrect. I support Kiwi in saying that if you're in the middle of the race you WOULDN'T peek at that? I think that each and every one of you would, sorry. Connor did what he had to do to win the leg, which was bending the rules but not breaking them. So he did what he had to do to advance his team in the Race, and the Race is cutthroat, as we have seen in recent seasons.

But I still don't like them for doing it, ugh.

Pam & Winnie love <333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

Taking any part of somebody's possessions is far far worse.

I know in the past sabotaging another team in a detour or RB wasn't allowed (I remember the stuntmen being penalised for hiding a bicycle pump) but I wonder if the rules might change on that.  Similarly moving someone's bag has been penalised in the past but if people are allowed to take someone's money then I think it's virtually anything goes now.  Though with some of the backlash the producers got for the money taking last season I wonder if they might have second thoughts about that approach.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 13, 2013, 05:00:01 PM
Looking at another teams efforts has been a long established fair tactic...

Teams check out each other's building (watermelon stacks, tents, scales etc) efforts, follow others to get a clue (abbaccus) even  those flags that Jet/Cord had trouble with.

I don't think sneaking a peek at what another team is doing is any way out of order. If some team wants to prevent that, seems like it is up to them. And I am kind of persnickety about ethics.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 13, 2013, 07:03:00 PM
I thought it was kind of dumb for Winnie to stop and ask Connor for directions to the pit stop. "Hi, I know we're both competing for 1st place and a big prize, but please help me out and tell me where to go to find Phil." If Winnie had just kept going and didn't ask for directions, Connor wouldn't have been able to peek at her surfboard and chances are very good that Pam and Winnie would have arrived first. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Chateau d If on March 13, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
Or even in a strategic play she could have traded information with Connor and then, with Pam, easily out race him and Dave to the mat. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Mak on March 14, 2013, 09:56:20 AM
If I'm not mistaken, Winnie did say to Connor she would show him the board she chose if he let her and Pam go on the mat first, but Connor declined this offer.  I think that's what made it worse for me when Connor then sneaked a look a which board she had chosen and then beat them to first place.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on March 14, 2013, 01:52:06 PM
Quote
I don't think sneaking a peek at what another team is doing is any way out of order. If some team wants to prevent that, seems like it is up to them. And I am kind of persnickety about ethics.

Don't compare it to other tasks such as checking the progress of other teams. Ultimately, you can check out what other teams are doing, but you still have to DO IT YOURSELF.

Connor didn't DO IT HIMSELF. He STOLE an ANSWER which Pam DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE HIM.

Yes, Pamela and Winnie may have agree to work with Connor and Dave and then beat them to the pitstop since Dave can't walk properly. But seriously, you think if a team already said (Connor) did they don't want to work with you, you'll want to linger around and talk to them further?

Connor is sneaky and that's how I see it. He cheated and stole $10,000 from Pamela and Winnie. It's a sin and it's a HORRIBLE SIN.

Kthxbye.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on March 14, 2013, 01:56:06 PM
With that said, I already said before I will give Dave and Connor the benefit of the doubt that I'll probably sneak a peak if I were in his situation too.

Then I thought again and I take back what I say. I saw the episode and if I were in that circumstance, I would work with her for an answer, then go to the pitstop with them in 2nd place, since Pamela and Winnie helped with the clue too.

I'm sorry, it's just against my morals and ethics. You may not buy it but I'm serious, I was pointing my middle finger at Connor and Dave (literally at the screen) while watching the show.

That was how mad I was. When people say they don't want to show you the answer, you don't CHEAT.

Cheaters never win. I hope Dave and Connor get eliminated soon. (HEHEHEHEHEHE) :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Declive on March 14, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
So weird. I didn't saw a "No Peeking" sign at the end of the Roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on March 14, 2013, 09:31:51 PM
Declive, you are talking rules of the Amazing Race and Joab is talking the ethics of normal human interactions. I side with Joab on this one.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on March 14, 2013, 09:41:59 PM
Declive, you are talking rules of the Amazing Race and Joab is talking the ethics of normal human interactions. I side with Joab on this one.

<3 apskip we are finally in the same tune.

Nobody says no robbery in a jewellery store too, you wanna rob it Declive? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Air on March 14, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
IMO the best episode this season so far. Ew at Dave & Connor, Pam & Winnie didn't win a leg.

Pam & Winnie and Supertan were STARS this leg and well <3

Flight drama <3

Caroline getting it perpetually wrong </3

I don't think the Country Singers will last the race, unfortunately. :( (NOT A SPOILER)

Wow John is stupid. Just use the EP for goodness' sakes. :res:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **Please read the rules**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 17, 2013, 04:22:16 AM
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/hanoman_zpse231d3a9.jpg)

unfortunately CBS cut this scene, where teams got their first clue here before they headed to monkey forest. Kecak dance is the most famous dance in Bali, plus the rice field view would be great to the viewers. it's all because of duration :(