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Title: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2013, 07:11:33 AM
Title find thanks to Theodorus!!
 
Episode 4 title quote is up:
(http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s497/Daniel_Dian/Episode4_zps9806888d.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2013, 07:11:42 AM
PREVIEW!
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/y7FX069TkW0?hl
 
LONG PREVIEW!
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/I8VR5HQ3gQE?version=3&hl
 
Detour Clip!
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/XCldRSCc7RY?version=3&hl
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4
Post by: Dom on February 23, 2013, 07:57:49 AM
Leg 4 (Christchurch, New Zealand (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg/22px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png) → Bali, Indonesia (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Flag_of_Indonesia.svg/22px-Flag_of_Indonesia.svg.png))

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/filming.png) Filmed19-20 Nov
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/tv2.png) Broadcast10 March

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/routeinfo2.png) ROUTE INFOChristchurch International Airport (CHC) to Ngurah Rai International Airport (DPS)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/plane-1.png) FLIGHTSUnknown

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/routeinfo2.png) ROUTE INFOKenanga Terracotta Restaurant, Ubud (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817320.html#msg817320)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/routeinfo2.png) ROUTE INFOUbud Monkey Forest, Ubud (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817150.html#msg817150) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/w2.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubud_Monkey_Forest)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/detour-1.png) DETOUR AUnknown
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/detour-1.png) DETOUR BAssemble a 'Gebogan'
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-11_zpsbcbd4f4a.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28504.msg851186.html#msg851186)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/routeinfo2.png) ROUTE INFOBeach near Uluwatu (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817354.html#msg817354) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/w2.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukit_Peninsula)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/roadblock-1.jpg) ROADBLOCKChoose the correct surfboard and carry it down the cliff to the beach.
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/live-balij.jpg) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817354.html#msg817354)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/pitstop-1.png) PIT STOPBeach near Uluwatu (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817354.html#msg817354) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/w2.png) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukit_Peninsula)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/live-balio.jpg) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817354.html#msg817354)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/tick.png) Safe(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/ffblondes-1.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815680.html#msg815680) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/ffbrunettes.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815682.html#msg815682) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/mfalabama.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815792.html#msg815792) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/fforange.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815939.html#msg815939) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/mmfatherson.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815945.html#msg815945) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/mfgrey.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815957.html#msg815957) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/mfpink.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815893.html#msg815893) (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/mmred.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg815944.html#msg815944)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/question.png) At Risk(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/mfgreen.png) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.msg817615.html#msg817615)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/cross.png) EliminatedUnknown
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
From Intro caps:
 
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/INTROCAPS22_zps566cba63.png)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/INTROCAPS11_zps6f2d97d5.png)
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/INTROCAPS39_zps53b3ee0d.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2013, 11:41:20 AM
For an AWESOME Live Summary of the Bali Leg, read part 1 and 2 of Nyoman and Zouly's adventure!
 
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817320.html#msg817320 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817320.html#msg817320)
 
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817354.html#msg817354 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817354.html#msg817354)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2013, 11:41:31 AM
Neobie!! :hearts:
 
 
Leg 4. Thanks to Nyoman_SB1 and Chateau!
I can't confirm the exact location for Sandy Bottom, but that's the closest match I've found.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q300/TAR_Neobie/TAR%2022/2241SouthBali.jpg)
 
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q300/TAR_Neobie/TAR%2022/2242Ubud.jpg)
 
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q300/TAR_Neobie/TAR%2022/2243BluePtBayVillas.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 03, 2013, 09:38:05 PM
Preview up, caps will be coming!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 03, 2013, 09:38:16 PM
CAPS!
 
 
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0064.jpg)1(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0085.jpg)2(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0105.jpg)3(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0140.jpg)4(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0192.jpg)5(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0224.jpg)6(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0245.jpg)7(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0280.jpg)8(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0288.jpg)9(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0316.jpg)11(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0348.jpg)12(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0364.jpg)13(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0400.jpg)14(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0403.jpg)15(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0436.jpg)16(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0451.jpg)17(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0452.jpg)18(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0475.jpg)19(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0483.jpg)21(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0503.jpg)22(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0529.jpg)23(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0574.jpg)24(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0603.jpg)25(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0608.jpg)26(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0664.jpg)27(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0679.jpg)28
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 04, 2013, 03:13:25 AM
From the spoiler team in Bali, this looks like the Kenanga Hotel in Ubud:
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/03/44/cf/0d/kenanga-boutique-hotel.jpg)

And the big hut in the caps:
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/fa/6e/a3/kenanga-boutique-hotel.jpg)

Wonder if the Bali team (or others) can point out the Pit Stop to me on a map? I can't find the platform on Google Earth...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: BuuYaa on March 04, 2013, 03:50:37 AM
Indonesian right here :):)

I don't exactly live in Bali (oh boy the life cost in Bali is just pheeew... it'll blow your mind I'll say) but been there twice, recent one in 2010

From the spoiler team in Bali, this looks like the Kenanga Hotel in Ubud:
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/03/44/cf/0d/kenanga-boutique-hotel.jpg)

And the big hut in the caps:
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/fa/6e/a3/kenanga-boutique-hotel.jpg)

Wonder if the Bali team (or others) can point out the Pit Stop to me on a map? I can't find the platform on Google Earth...

it's not certainly a hotel in Ubud I think.
it's the monkey forest. people there visit it for vacation sometimes.  I had been there once, but it was like 6 pm and it was dawn already and we were only allowed in till 8 pm.
Monkeys are EVERYWHERE!!!!
and not like they have people to guide the monkey, they're just releasing the monkeys in the wild. People better be sure not to hold clue in there because the monkeys might as well swap it off their hands. Lots of people got their cellphones and jewelries stolen in there, by the MONKEYS! The guard in front gate usually warns us to NOT hold anything and better NOT bringing any kinds of BAGS inside. If they have to, make sure the bags are zipped tightly or hardly opened by the monkeys.

There's a picture of the front gate. i remembered taking picture there but idk where it is now.  :'( :'( :'(

and for the pit stop in Uluwatu, it was actually a temple called "Luhur Uluwatu"
the temple is located on the edge of a hill near Hindia Ocean
it was so windy there if it rains you'll get home very wet
I was there too in 2010. but I didn't remember seeing the platform for the pit stop
maybe it was specially prepared for The Amazing Race itself
or else it still wasn't been made when I was there.

I wonder why they went to Ubud first before going to Uluwatu. Uluwatu is much closer from the airport in Bali, and to get to Ubud is just... :iok the road is just awful. it will give you car sickness for sho...

hope i am right.


Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 04, 2013, 04:46:22 AM
Hello BuuYaa! From reports from a spoiler team in Bali (HS, ND, and ZouLy) we think they went to both the Monkey Forest and the Kenanda Hotel. (At first I thought they went to ask for directions, but now we have vidcap proof!)

So here's a preliminary map for Leg Four...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: redskevin88 on March 04, 2013, 04:47:45 AM
They when to the Monkey Forest in TARA1, I think that it is the same place!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: banredbeans on March 04, 2013, 08:59:43 AM
I have been to monkey forest twice.  Those monkeys are very fresh and brave.  They will go through your pockets and try and steal things from you.  Many are trained to steal things only to have them returned to you if you give the so called trainer money.
Carissa had a coconut dropped on her from one of the monkeys in the trees on purpose. 

There are so many great places to go in Bali I am sure thensurfing is from Kuta Beach and that hotel is probably from Nusa Dua or Jambarian Bay were all of the luxury hotels are.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: RealityFreakWill on March 04, 2013, 11:24:07 AM
New promo.....

Travel to exotic Bali where the heat is on and the surf's up. Who will win the longest leg in Amazing Race History? Find out on the next episode of The Amazing Race Sunday at 8/7c.

http://www.youtube.com/v/aEEfdd_K_bc
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: jiajia12 on March 04, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Peach upload it please, outside of US ty :<3
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
Thank you so much WIll, working on it!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 04, 2013, 12:44:11 PM
 from wikipedia. title quote episode 4 >> Joey.  it's so predictable  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2013, 12:56:09 PM
Can't count on wiki though....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2013, 12:59:43 PM
Promo up in post 2!! Please look it over nyoman, you were there so your eyes will be invaluable!! Tell us where we are!

I will start the caps now, but will take awhile, darn new photobucket!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 04, 2013, 02:33:23 PM
Bali, land of a thousand temples!

Well... Start looking! (This is a different one from the dancers with the guy painted white - sorry for the lack of terminological precision!)

The John/Jessica shot might be in Ubud?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2013, 02:35:24 PM
CAPS!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0050.jpg)1 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0052.jpg)2(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0055.jpg)3 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0056.jpg)4 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0066.jpg)5 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0120.jpg)6 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0126.jpg)7 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0142.jpg)8 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0146.jpg)9 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0165.jpg)10 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0176.jpg)11
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Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 04, 2013, 02:57:35 PM
Are they just exaggerating the "LONGEST LEG" portion?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: supah on March 04, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
Are they just exaggerating the "LONGEST LEG" portion?

It's 4 days of non-stop racing since the Pit Start in Bora Bora so I wouldn't be surprised if it is :o
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: theschnauzers on March 04, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
Are they just exaggerating the "LONGEST LEG" portion?
I doubt it's the longest leg by distance, unless they're also including leg 3 from Bora Bora as part of it.
It could be in duration, especially if teams did in fact have to fly to Perth to get to Bali, which IIRC, was suggested by live tweets at the time of filming.
But I am curious as to how that label is being applied.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on March 04, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
We have never had a KOR/TBC leg that travels that far I do not think? They have raced non-stop from Bora Bora to Tahiti to Auckland to Christchurch to Australia (connections?) to Bali before ending Leg 4 with an elimination. That is a long arse amount of travel - come on now!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2013, 03:31:38 PM
Non-stop except for an overnight camp-out that is.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on March 04, 2013, 03:34:44 PM
Oh dear, I forget that  :lol3: mind you, this is the same announcer who stated: 'three teams will quit in the first episode'. So should likely take it with a grain of salt :P
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 04, 2013, 03:37:11 PM
(Hopes we avoid another round of defining what is a "leg", since I think we all know what CBS is trying to say.)

But it's grueling for the teams; six flights at one go; sleeping on an airport floor, then sleeping in a tent, then getting all dirty and cold, then sleeping in another airport?

Four days is if you add another technical "day" since they crossed the Intl Date Line flying from Tahiti to New Zealand...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 04, 2013, 05:29:14 PM
Doesn't matter too much but Roller Derby Moms and Newlyweds check in around the same time in Leg 3:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: jiajia12 on March 04, 2013, 05:58:11 PM
Katie and Max caught up :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 04, 2013, 09:49:05 PM
As would be expected, this is an Ulu Watu shot:  Pura Ulu Watu  (Panoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/75409106?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com))

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0224.jpg)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/75409106.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 04, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
Here is a GE look at the Surfboard Task location:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview/22-4-preview-caps0436.jpg)

(Panoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/76960525?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com))

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/76960525.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on March 04, 2013, 11:14:11 PM
We have never had a KOR/TBC leg that travels that far I do not think? They have raced non-stop from Bora Bora to Tahiti to Auckland to Christchurch to Australia (connections?) to Bali before ending Leg 4 with an elimination. That is a long arse amount of travel - come on now!

Yes. The cities that have been accumulated this season is crazy. Imagine the toll that it takes on the racers! :(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 05, 2013, 12:37:31 AM
This shot was taken between 5:31 and 5:49 pm (assumes November 20th).   :ascared

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0414.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 05, 2013, 03:34:21 AM

 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0176.jpg)
  i think this is in Ubud, but i don't know the exact location. Definitely not at the public/famous temple like Besakih, Uluwatu or Tanah Lot temple.  Each house & village has their own temple, so this little temple must be one of them.
 

 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0254.jpg)
 This is at the pit stop


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0598.jpg) 
 I'm pretty sure  this is Ayung river in Ubud. This river is well known in foreign countries as a very attractive place for rafting. This is obviously one of the detours. looks like they collect black sands and then carry it somewhere.


 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0286.jpg) 
 I think John & Jessica are on their way to the detour.


 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0338.jpg)   Uluwatu beach


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0446.jpg) Uluwatu beach. Chuck couldn't find the surf shop. I told him where it's at and then he running everywhere with that surfboard lol...


 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0509.jpg) Monkey forest, Ubud.


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0525.jpg) Parking lot at monkey forest. I took Joey & Meghan's pic from here


 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0645.jpg)
Maybe Bates & Anthony running to the small temple (caps 1)


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0810.jpg)   Uluwatu
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 05, 2013, 03:35:53 AM
There must be a memory challenge.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: jiajia12 on March 05, 2013, 05:16:53 AM
Wasn't there a report on who left when in the surfboard task?
The pitstop is than within walking distance?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: SoYoung on March 05, 2013, 05:24:14 AM
I wonder if leg 3 is elimination leg... Did we see everyone in leg4 caps?  I cant see Pam and Winnie  :o
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: BuuYaa on March 05, 2013, 05:27:00 AM
judging from the location, I think the detours are performing Kecak Dance and something that involves monkeys


oh man they better not pick the dance. I learned it a couple times in high school. The eye movements (which is the basic key) took almost a month to master, let alone the dance.

and the RB, pura=temple uluwatu is almost 100 meters up on the sea level. If they have to run back and forth carrying a surfboard from the temple to the beach, pheww!! good luck with that...

maybe that's why this became the longest leg
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Air on March 05, 2013, 05:28:34 AM
I wonder if leg 3 is elimination leg... Did we see everyone in leg4 caps?  I cant see Pam and Winnie  :o

Pam & Winnie were spotted in Vietnam, to my recollection.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: ilhamrizki on March 05, 2013, 05:39:35 AM
judging from the location, I think the detours are performing Kecak Dance and something that involves monkeys


oh man they better not pick the dance. I learned it a couple times in high school. The eye movements (which is the basic key) took almost a month to master, let alone the dance.

and the RB, pura=temple uluwatu is almost 100 meters up on the sea level. If they have to run back and forth carrying a surfboard from the temple to the beach, pheww!! good luck with that...

maybe that's why this became the longest leg

I don't agree that the detour related to monkeys. Looks like it's just additional task.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: sharkshooter on March 05, 2013, 06:17:45 AM
(Hopes we avoid another round of defining what is a "leg", since I think we all know what CBS is trying to say.)

But it's grueling for the teams; six flights at one go; sleeping on an airport floor, then sleeping in a tent, then getting all dirty and cold, then sleeping in another airport?

Four days is if you add another technical "day" since they crossed the Intl Date Line flying from Tahiti to New Zealand...
Experienced travellers also sleep on the planes.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 05, 2013, 06:24:36 AM

and the RB, pura=temple uluwatu is almost 100 meters up on the sea level. If they have to run back and forth carrying a surfboard from the temple to the beach, pheww!! good luck with that...

maybe that's why this became the longest leg

No, temple & the beach are not in the same location. it takes 15 minutes by taxi from the temple to the beach. The roadblock was at Uluwatu beach. And yes, i saw they run back and forth carrying a surfboard. there are many stairs, rocks, & cliffs. It was physically challenging 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 05, 2013, 06:27:34 AM
I wonder if leg 3 is elimination leg... Did we see everyone in leg4 caps?  I cant see Pam and Winnie  :o

Pam & Winnie were spotted in Vietnam, to my recollection.

They were on the first flight with Dave/Connor & Max/Katie
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 05, 2013, 07:31:33 AM
Nyoman, do you mind pointing out to us where the Pit Stop location is in Uluwatu? I don't think the wooden terrace is on the Google Earth imagery...

(Just draw a circle on it in MS Paint or describe where it is to us!) :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: ianthebalance on March 05, 2013, 08:14:40 AM
I think the detour options are:
Collect black sand from river/ Something with a coconut, since Chuck and Wynona appear to find a slip of paper in one
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2013, 08:40:57 AM
Rolled paper could also be the clue...like in the baguettes before?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 05, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
Hope they go to a Temple there!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 05, 2013, 12:27:09 PM
Coconut has the clue inside.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 05, 2013, 03:20:46 PM
Another angle of the temple from the opening sequence. It's on a terrace of some sort. Although most Hindu temples are based on the mythical Mt Meru so this description fits most temples in Bali.......

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/INTROCAPS7_zps790a943c.png)

We've got teams going from the airport to the (mostly male) kecak dancers at Kenanga Hotel, then to the Detour at Ubud Monkey Forest, then... ?... until the Roadblock in Uluwatu and the Pit Stop.

So if the (female) legong dancers are not just stock footage they'd have to fit in somewhere between Ubud and Uluwatu?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2013, 03:45:33 PM
Neobie...are we SURE this is not at Ubad? I was there once but it has been too long ago for me to remember... These are all from Ubad.
 
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Ubad2-vert.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2013, 03:53:56 PM
Dalem Temple, Ubad Entrance...sort of a terrace? ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 05, 2013, 04:08:36 PM
It would make a lot of sense for it to be at Ubud - we don't have time for more stuff in the episode - the grass could be recent landscaping, but I can't explain away the different background... The entrance archway at Ubud is much more intricate. Different angle or somewhere else in the compound?

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28504.0;attach=219911;image)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2013, 10:09:56 PM
Okay...just noticing that the "floor" is different...back to the drawing board!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 05, 2013, 11:34:10 PM
Here is the location of the dancing task at the mystery temple:  (Panaoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7191234?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com))

Note matching details in the image at the bottom. 

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/7191234.jpg)

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28504.0;attach=219911;image)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2013, 11:41:51 PM
Ubad after all!! :yess: NICE!

Thanks Chateau!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2013, 12:49:39 AM
This shot was taken between 9:00 and 10:30 am (assumes November 20th).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0050.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 06, 2013, 02:56:18 AM
Wikimapia labels it as the village temple of Singakerta, called Pura Kayangan Puseh... Couldn't find any other photos just yet... Good work Chateau! It's close enough to the Monkey Forest... Is it a Detour option or a U-Turn location?

We seem to have a lot of things going on in Ubud!
1. Route info with kecak dancers at Kenanga Hotel
2. Detour decision at Ubud Monkey Forest
3a. Clues inside coconuts with Chuck/Wynona, likely at Ubud Monkey Forest
3b. Cordoned-off 15-min task with Joey/Meghan at Ubud Monkey Forest
4. Gathering black sand (?) at, according to Nyoman, Ayung River, which is not in the Monkey Forest
5. Legong dancers at Singakerta, which is close to, but not in, the Monkey Forest

If the Joey/Meghan (= coconut?) task and the river task are two sides of a Detour, isn't it a little unbalanced? The river is a distance away from the Monkey Forest (short distance, but still a distance, say 10min), you get wet, it's physical, and the other task only takes 15 minutes? Is there the possibility of the river being in the Monkey Forest?

And would teams visit Singakerta at all or is it just stock footage?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2013, 08:25:19 AM
Wikimapia labels it as the village temple of Singakerta, called Pura Kayangan Puseh... Couldn't find any other photos just yet... Good work Chateau! It's close enough to the Monkey Forest... Is it a Detour option or a U-Turn location?


The photo I found was labelled as Dalem Temple, Ubud, Neobie..it is within the Ubud forest!!
(http://i47.[banned image hosting site].com/1zfmp3b.jpg)


Also this copyrighted photo of near identical dancers is ALSO labelled Pura Dalem temple, desa Ubud
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kei-kecil/2841522645/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kei-kecil/2841522645/)

These Youtubes show the layout perfectly, especially the second.
 

http://www.youtube.com/v/1R8LX04wnQU
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/DjQxAL8QEqs
 
 

 
 
 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 06, 2013, 09:39:06 AM
Peach, they're two different temples, similar-looking but not the same! The one Chateau found is not in the Monkey Forest, it's slightly outside of Ubud in a village called Singakerta.

Let's play spot-the-difference! :)
1. The gateway is sharp in Ubud, rounded in Singakerta.
2. A much more ornate base in Ubud, simpler stairwell in Singakerta.
3. A gap in the "fence" of the central altar, none in Singakerta.
4. The jagged triangular pattern along the gateway in Singakerta, none in Ubud.
5. The ground is tiled in Ubud, grassy in Singakerta.

4 and 5 are evident in the episode caps, meaning the dancers are at Singakerta, not at the Monkey Forest.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: CeCeKline on March 06, 2013, 09:43:24 AM
I wonder if leg 3 is elimination leg... Did we see everyone in leg4 caps?  I cant see Pam and Winnie  :o

Pam & Winnie were spotted in Vietnam, to my recollection.

for sure Pam and Winnie are TEAM NO. 2. There were spoilers that Dave and Connor were with them in the flight from Brisbane/or Melbourne to Perth where the connection to Bali awaits. They did talk about getting "2ND place last leg"
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2013, 09:48:18 AM
I wonder if leg 3 is elimination leg... Did we see everyone in leg4 caps?  I cant see Pam and Winnie  :o

Pam & Winnie were spotted in Vietnam, to my recollection.

for sure Pam and Winnie are TEAM NO. 2. There were spoilers that Dave and Connor were with them in the flight from Brisbane/or Melbourne to Perth where the connection to Bali awaits. They did talk about getting "2ND place last leg"

Yes CeCe we know. Supposedly just in front of Hockey.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
Peach, they're two different temples, similar-looking but not the same! The one Chateau found is not in the Monkey Forest, it's slightly outside of Ubud in a village called Singakerta.

Let's play spot-the-difference! :)
1. The gateway is sharp in Ubud, rounded in Singakerta.
2. A much more ornate base in Ubud, simpler stairwell in Singakerta.
3. A gap in the "fence" of the central altar on the left, none in Singakerta.
4. The jagged triangular pattern along the gateway in Singakerta, none in Ubud.
5. The small altar to the right faces left-right in Ubud, but front-back in Singakerta.

4 and 5 are evident in the episode caps, meaning the dancers are at Singakerta, not at the Monkey Forest.

Arrrgh, Making my eye appt now!! :groan:

Thanks!

Still, the Udud temple dancers seem to match, lol.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 06, 2013, 10:17:10 AM
So we have a Detour task within the Monkey Forest (taking 15min, probably the coconut task) and another task on the river... and then a location after that in the same vicinity...

Are we due for a U-Turn?

Possibly?:
Kenanga Hotel - Detour Decision
Monkey Forest - Detour A (Chuck/Wynona, Joey/Meghan, David/Connor)
Ayung River - Detour B (Jessica/John, Mona/Beth)
Singakerta - U-Turn
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 06, 2013, 10:20:38 AM
Sorry to keep you waiting. so i went to Uluwatu beach this afternoon and took some pictures. here's the pit stop. the wooden terrace is not there anymore. so i think they created that special for Amazing Race.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: BuuYaa on March 06, 2013, 10:46:51 AM
So we have a Detour task within the Monkey Forest (taking 15min, probably the coconut task) and another task on the river... and then a location after that in the same vicinity...

Are we due for a U-Turn?

Possibly?:
Kenanga Hotel - Detour Decision
Monkey Forest - Detour A (Chuck/Wynona, Joey/Meghan, David/Connor)
Ayung River - Detour B (Jessica/John, Mona/Beth)
Singakerta - U-Turn

WHAT? another U-turn in Indonesia? What do we look like some evil country to you people :haha  :werock

Although, it would be interesting to have a U-turn in Bali.  :conf:  :yess:

Indonesia is gonna have its 6TH victim.  :killme:

This could be a lesson though to future racers. If you are having a leg in Indonesia, WATCH OUT! IT'S ALWAYS AN ELIMINATION LEG  }:> }:> }:>

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Kamineko on March 06, 2013, 11:04:58 AM
Sorry to keep you waiting. so i went to Uluwatu beach this afternoon and took some pictures. here's the pit stop. the wooden terrace is not there anymore. so i think they created that special for Amazing Race.
Awesome job, Nyoman! :hearts: :hearts:
Anyway, it's surprising that the wooden terrace was made special for Amazing Race, I think I've never seen anything specially made for the Pit Stop like that before! :o
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 06, 2013, 11:26:24 AM
So we have a Detour task within the Monkey Forest (taking 15min, probably the coconut task) and another task on the river... and then a location after that in the same vicinity...

Are we due for a U-Turn?

Possibly?:
Kenanga Hotel - Detour Decision
Monkey Forest - Detour A (Chuck/Wynona, Joey/Meghan, David/Connor)
Ayung River - Detour B (Jessica/John, Mona/Beth)
Singakerta - U-Turn

WHAT? another U-turn in Indonesia? What do we look like some evil country to you people :haha  :werock

Although, it would be interesting to have a U-turn in Bali.  :conf:  :yess:

Indonesia is gonna have its 6TH victim.  :killme:

This could be a lesson though to future racers. If you are having a leg in Indonesia, WATCH OUT! IT'S ALWAYS AN ELIMINATION LEG  }:> }:> }:>

there is possibility, although CBS didn't show it in the preview. If it's true, maybe Jess & John will be the victim and they will use their express pass. Max/Katie & Bates/Anthony don't like JJ. maybe one of them U-turn JJ  :happy:

TAR 19: double elimination in Yogyakarta (leg 2), and then 1 elimination in Borobudur (leg3)
TAR 21: double blind U-turn, 1 elimination in Surabaya (leg 2) and 1 elimination in Bangil (leg 3)
i'm sure Bali is elimination leg. If there is U-turn/Double U-turn in Bali, Indonesia will be the cruelest country in TAR history   :bounce
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 06, 2013, 12:30:48 PM
I'm really expecting a U-Turn. Also expecting to see Dave & Connor using it.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2013, 02:24:41 PM
Sorry to keep you waiting. so i went to Uluwatu beach this afternoon and took some pictures. here's the pit stop. the wooden terrace is not there anymore. so i think they created that special for Amazing Race.

Thanks Nyoman!  Does this look about right for the location of the Pit Stop structure?

"From Here" should be about where your shot was taken from.  the yellow lines are used to line up features in your shot with features we see from the satellite.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28504.0;attach=219950;image)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: bc922 on March 06, 2013, 06:41:29 PM
ONE TEAM MAKES HISTORY WHILE TRYING TO AVOID ELIMINATION AND ANOTHER IS BROUGHT TO TEARS BY THE STRESS OF THE RACE, ON “THE AMAZING RACE,” SUNDAY, MARCH 10

“I Love Monkeys!”– The stress of the Race brings one Racer to tears and another Team makes history while trying to avoid elimination, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Emmy Award nominee Phil Keoghan (@philkeoghan) is the host.

CHEAT TWEET: What do U get when U mix surfboards, monkeys, tears & an #AmazingRace first? Teams head 2 Bali this Sun 3/10 8pmET/PT   

(http://cbspres***press.com/images/photos/thumbnail/2013/03/06/T09Grab02.jpg)
"I Love Monkeys!"-- In Detour B, Best friends Pam (left) and Winnie (right) must assemble an elaborate religious offering known as a "Gebogan" then take it to the Pura Desa Puseh Temple for a blessing in order to receive the next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

(http://cbspres***press.com/images/photos/thumbnail/2013/03/06/T07Grab04.jpg)
"I Love Monkeys!"-- In Detour B, Country singers Caroline (left) and Jennifer (right) must assemble an elaborate religious offering known as a "Gebogan" then take it to the Pura Desa Puseh Temple for a blessing in order to receive the next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

(http://cbspres***press.com/images/photos/thumbnail/2013/03/06/T05Grab02.jpg)
"I Love Monkeys!"-- In Detour B, Married couple Wynona (left) and Chuck (right) must assemble an elaborate religious offering known as a "Gebogan" then take it to the Pura Desa Puseh Temple for a blessing in order to receive the next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

(http://cbspres***press.com/images/photos/thumbnail/2013/03/06/T04Grab01.jpg)
"I Love Monkeys!"-- In Detour B, Hockey brothers Bates (left) and Anthony (right) must assemble an elaborate religious offering known as a "Gebogan" then take it to the Pura Desa Puseh Temple for a blessing in order to receive the next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

(http://cbspres***press.com/images/photos/thumbnail/2013/03/06/T02Grab03.jpg)
"I Love Monkeys!"--In Detour B, Newlyweds Max (left) and Katie (right) must assemble an elaborate religious offering known as a "Gebogan" then take it to the Pura Desa Puseh Temple for a blessing in order to receive the next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Puppet on March 06, 2013, 06:59:37 PM
I think if there is a U-Turn, the target would definitely be on John/Jessica. The other teams would want their express pass gone. Could that be why they lose their express pass early?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 06, 2013, 07:01:41 PM
Just for clarification, Pura Desa Puseh Temple is the one Chateau found. Wikimapia labels it as "Pura Kayangan Puseh - Desa Pekraman Singakerta". "Pura" = "temple", "kayangan" = "heaven", "desa" = "village".

So now that the temple's been accounted for, no need for a U-Turn!

River
Jessica/John, Mona/Beth
Temple
Chuck/Wynona, Joey/Meghan, David/Connor, Pamela/Winnie, Caroline/Jennifer, Bates/Anthony, Max/Katie
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 06, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
I think if there is a U-Turn, the target would definitely be on John/Jessica. The other teams would want their express pass gone. Could that be why they lose their express pass early?

I remember in TARLA 3 that one of the teams had an argument about the same point:  U-Turn the team with the EP only to force them to use it.  They finally didn't do it, but the EP team later use it in the same leg to avoid elimination in the last task of the leg.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
Usually the U-Turns are advertised in the caps...we have no evidence for one so far.

I am thinking the coconut thing could be a route marker of sorts??
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 06, 2013, 09:06:40 PM
Just for clarification, Pura Desa Puseh Temple is the one Chateau found. Wikimapia labels it as "Pura Kayangan Puseh - Desa Pekraman Singakerta". "Pura" = "temple", "kayangan" = "heaven", "desa" = "village".

So now that the temple's been accounted for, no need for a U-Turn!

River
Jessica/John, Mona/Beth
Temple
Chuck/Wynona, Joey/Meghan, David/Connor, Pamela/Winnie, Caroline/Jennifer, Bates/Anthony, Max/Katie

Updated ....

I'm thinking the shot that I found may have been misplaced on GE  (:;).  In that GE image, the placements of the buildings don't perfectly match this shot (video) from Pond5 which, right now the best representation of the place.

I have included another possible location from GE below.  But the general blurriness makes it hard to be sure.   :'(

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28504.0;attach=219911;image)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/7191234.jpg)

pond5 (http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/599896/hindu-temple-ubud-bali.html)
(http://ec.pond5.com/s3/000599896_prevstill.jpeg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 07, 2013, 12:37:56 AM

Thanks Nyoman!  Does this look about right for the location of the Pit Stop structure?

"From Here" should be about where your shot was taken from.  the yellow lines are used to line up features in your shot with features we see from the satellite.

[/quote]

this is the right one
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/GEPitStop_zps0a8cac84.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: supah on March 07, 2013, 01:23:03 AM
It's speculated that John & Jessica are the team to be eliminated this leg, and due to our future sightings of other teams, they probably are. What puzzles me is HOW?! They are physically and mentally one of the strongest teams left, not to mention they have an Express Pass! Here's my theory: they play the EP on the Detour, but they're screwed over by the Roadblock.

Judging by the 'looks' of our Detour, neither option seems difficult enough for John & Jessica not to complete. Then I saw this:

“I Love Monkeys!”– another Team makes history while trying to avoid elimination

This 'hint' from the episode preview is probably the reason why John & Jessica get eliminated. But the question is, HOW?! From the previews it seems as though Caroline struggles terribly with the Roadblock. Possibly, she takes a 4 hour penalty and they survive because Jessica takes so long? I have no idea. I guess we'll have to wait and see  :o
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
 :hrt: The HISTORY screencap is over Jennifer... perhap the history refers to her and not JJ?

OR it could be referring to Dave/Connor completing this leg while so badly injured.

OR something to do with JJ.

Lots of choices.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Puppet on March 07, 2013, 02:28:02 AM
:hrt: The HISTORY screencap is over Jennifer... perhap the history refers to her and not JJ?

OR it could be referring to Dave/Connor completing this leg while so badly injured.

OR something to do with JJ.

Lots of choices.

I think Dave & Connor might survive if they encounter a non-physical Detour. Ultimately, they will get eliminated if the son max out his roadblocks.

And I still don't see how JJ gets eliminated holding the EP.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 07, 2013, 03:20:13 AM

(http://cbspres***press.com/images/photos/thumbnail/2013/03/06/T05Grab02.jpg)
"I Love Monkeys!"-- In Detour B, Married couple Wynona (left) and Chuck (right) must assemble an elaborate religious offering known as a "Gebogan" then take it to the Pura Desa Puseh Temple for a blessing in order to receive the next clue, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.


   :hearts:   i was expecting Gebogan or Penjor challenge in Bali and they did the Gebogan, although i prefer the Penjor. Making Penjor is much harder than Gebogan. Gebogan is commonly made by women, while Penjor made by men.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/penjor_zps34a5a62c.jpg)
Penjor
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: claude_24hrs on March 07, 2013, 04:23:19 AM
It's speculated that John & Jessica are the team to be eliminated this leg, and due to our future sightings of other teams, they probably are. What puzzles me is HOW?! They are physically and mentally one of the strongest teams left, not to mention they have an Express Pass! Here's my theory: they play the EP on the Detour, but they're screwed over by the Roadblock.

Judging by the 'looks' of our Detour, neither option seems difficult enough for John & Jessica not to complete. Then I saw this:

“I Love Monkeys!”– another Team makes history while trying to avoid elimination

This 'hint' from the episode preview is probably the reason why John & Jessica get eliminated. But the question is, HOW?! From the previews it seems as though Caroline struggles terribly with the Roadblock. Possibly, she takes a 4 hour penalty and they survive because Jessica takes so long? I have no idea. I guess we'll have to wait and see  :o

Love your theory, Supah. So, no actual evidence for the U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 07, 2013, 04:31:23 AM
I'm slightly confused by CBS' caption labeling the temple as Pura Desa Puseh.

From Chateau's link:
Quote
Every village has at least three temples: the Pura Desa, where religious festivals are celebrated, the Pura Dalem for the Goddess of Death (this is the place where the funeral cremation rites start), and the Pura Puseh that is dedicated to the Gods of Heaven.

Is this a double temple or did CBS just fudge the name of the temple?

Chateau, Bing has a clearer map than Google, but I can't match our temple up to either site.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 07, 2013, 04:52:28 AM
It's speculated that John & Jessica are the team to be eliminated this leg, and due to our future sightings of other teams, they probably are. What puzzles me is HOW?! They are physically and mentally one of the strongest teams left, not to mention they have an Express Pass! Here's my theory: they play the EP on the Detour, but they're screwed over by the Roadblock.

Judging by the 'looks' of our Detour, neither option seems difficult enough for John & Jessica not to complete. Then I saw this:

“I Love Monkeys!”– another Team makes history while trying to avoid elimination


This 'hint' from the episode preview is probably the reason why John & Jessica get eliminated. But the question is, HOW?! From the previews it seems as though Caroline struggles terribly with the Roadblock. Possibly, she takes a 4 hour penalty and they survive because Jessica takes so long? I have no idea. I guess we'll have to wait and see  :o

i was thinking the same thing. JJ probably use their EP on the Detour and then struggled at the roadblock.
These pics are from the roadblock. they run back and forth carrying a surfboard in a place like this. No wonder Caroline's so tired & frustrated

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/SAM_0964_zps5393e1ec.jpg)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/SAM_0965_zps07a1ada9.jpg)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/SAM_0967_zpsb419ca17.jpg)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/SAM_0968_zpsa9fce1fd.jpg)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/nyoman_sb1/SAM_0958a_zps150424f7.jpg)
We saw Caro & Jen here (in the preview). There is a short staircase (circled). Team must use that to reach the pit stop
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Kamineko on March 07, 2013, 05:11:37 AM
OMG! That Roadblock was TOUGH!!! :ascared I can feel their struggle when carrying the surfboard up and down the stairs... GOOD JOB ON THE PICTURES, NYOMAN!!! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Well, I think either John & Jessica were too rushed when they used the EP on Detour (if that's true), or the Detour is same as hard as the Roadblock... :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 07, 2013, 06:08:25 AM
Here's my theory on "ONE TEAM MAKES HISTORY WHILE TRYING TO AVOID ELIMINATION"

It's probably something simple like John/Jessica probably use their Express Pass at some point during the leg but get eliminated on the same leg - never happened on the US edition, correct?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: supah on March 07, 2013, 06:26:30 AM
Here's my theory on "ONE TEAM MAKES HISTORY WHILE TRYING TO AVOID ELIMINATION"

It's probably something simple like John/Jessica probably use their Express Pass at some point during the leg but get eliminated on the same leg - never happened on the US edition, correct?

I THINK YOU HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!! :yess: :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2013, 06:31:28 AM
I'm slightly confused by CBS' caption labeling the temple as Pura Desa Puseh.

From Chateau's link:
Quote
Every village has at least three temples: the Pura Desa, where religious festivals are celebrated, the Pura Dalem for the Goddess of Death (this is the place where the funeral cremation rites start), and the Pura Puseh that is dedicated to the Gods of Heaven.

Is this a double temple or did CBS just fudge the name of the temple?

Chateau, Bing has a clearer map than Google, but I can't match our temple up to either site.

That seems to be a non-town unspecific name:

Quote
There are three fundamental types of temple in every village. Pura Puseh (temple of origin) remains the most important and is reserved for founders of villages. It is always situated at the kaja end of the village.

In the middle of the village is the Pura Desa, which is for the spirits that protect and bless the villagers in their daily lives.


http://www.bali-directory.com/all-about-bali/Temples.asp (http://www.bali-directory.com/all-about-bali/Temples.asp)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: claude_24hrs on March 07, 2013, 06:39:42 AM
Here's my theory on "ONE TEAM MAKES HISTORY WHILE TRYING TO AVOID ELIMINATION"

It's probably something simple like John/Jessica probably use their Express Pass at some point during the leg but get eliminated on the same leg - never happened on the US edition, correct?

Yes. It has never happened in the original US edition. I read on Wikipedia on the inaugural season of The Amazing Race Vietnam, Thanh Thủy & Minh Thoa won the EP on its first leg and they used the EP on the third leg of that season, but they were eliminated. This was the first TAR franchise to do so.

What a shame and Indonesia is the home of elimination victims.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2013, 02:13:07 PM
Here it is!!

Finally, I can see it in GE   :hoot:


Pura Desa Puseh Temple is in Nyuh Kuning (still Ubud area)

And it's only 2000 feet away from the original place that the mis-placed photo was located  :gaah:

(Picassa (http://picasaweb.google.com/113647438943677872877/Id20090718BaliIslandWalkingAroundTheTownOfUbud#5516651351640836674))
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/-DmxrOeT8JHE/TI8VLQQ7CkI/AAAAAAAA2T0/cppIuDDzMgk/s1440/C20090718-1510_IMG_2757_1800x1200.JPG)

Look in the center of this GE image:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 07, 2013, 03:25:16 PM
Full resolution versions of these are now available:  CBS (http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/photos/1000244/season-22-episode-4/35976/?fb_action_ids=400647526698758%2C400645923365585%2C400645506698960%2C400645396698971%2C400645133365664&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_ref=PHOTO%3A%3A35976%2CPHOTO%3A%3A35975%2CPHOTO%3A%3A35972%2CPHOTO%3A%3A35973%2CPHOTO%3A%3A35974&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%22400647526698758%22%3A225994124192267%2C%22400645923365585%22%3A417437615017461%2C%22400645506698960%22%3A215707071904430%2C%22400645396698971%22%3A104533589732929%2C%22400645133365664%22%3A136944853146374}&action_type_map={%22400647526698758%22%3A%22og.likes%22%2C%22400645923365585%22%3A%22og.likes%22%2C%22400645506698960%22%3A%22og.likes%22%2C%22400645396698971%22%3A%22og.likes%22%2C%22400645133365664%22%3A%22og.likes%22}&action_ref_map={%22400647526698758%22%3A%22PHOTO%3A%3A35976%22%2C%22400645923365585%22%3A%22PHOTO%3A%3A35975%22%2C%22400645506698960%22%3A%22PHOTO%3A%3A35972%22%2C%22400645396698971%22%3A%22PHOTO%3A%3A35973%22%2C%22400645133365664%22%3A%22PHOTO%3A%3A35974%22})

(http://cbspres***press.com/images/photos/thumbnail/2013/03/06/T09Grab02.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: leenie on March 08, 2013, 12:30:41 PM
New episode 4 clip
http://www.teen.com/videos/tv-clips/amazing-race-clip-joey-meghan-video/
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 12:54:57 PM
I can't figure out why Jessica's watch would say 19:35 ???

Peach, can you get a capture of that?  Maybe the watch is in stopwatch mode.  Because 19:35 is after sunset and they still have to get to the surfboard task place.  Which they do work on at near sunset.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 12:57:24 PM
I can't figure out why Jessica's watch would say 19:35 ???

Peach, can you get a capture of that?  Maybe the watch is in stopwatch mode.  Because 19:35 is after sunset and they still have to get to the surfboard task place.  Which they do work on at near sunset.

tell me the time and I'll try...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 08, 2013, 12:58:08 PM
New Zealand time?

Bali is +7, New Zealand is +13 in the southern summer,
Moscow is +4 in its own time zone.
7.35pm New Zealand time > 1.35pm Bali time.

ND saw Joey/Meghan leaving the airport at around 11am, Bali time.
Driving time from the airport to Kenanga Hotel to the Money Forest is 1h22, according to Google.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 01:07:43 PM
Maybe she relies on John to keep the time in sync with the country?  Setting watch to local time is the first thing I would do while waiting to get off the plane.  Very strange.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 01:32:06 PM
Maybe their problem with this task is the sticks poking through the fruit?

I need to make a trip to Bali !
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
capped it out but I can not see a clear time at all, sorry. I don't see the 19:35 either. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 08, 2013, 02:08:58 PM
To the rescue! (I hope  :lol3: )
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 08, 2013, 02:09:19 PM
I see 19:35 clear.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 08, 2013, 02:20:36 PM
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-7relojampliado_zps7be9d432.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 02:21:12 PM
I see it on Chateau's, but I am not in a good place to try this, see if Alenaveda can?

But if she didn't reset from NZ, it would be 1235, right?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 02:30:12 PM
VID up in post 2!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 08, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
And this is the picture reversed:

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-7relojampliadoInvertida_zps6ba956eb.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 08, 2013, 03:00:02 PM
OK , we know that Joey and Meghan got to the Detour clue at 11 AM or more (INDO TIME) , so Jessica's clock is in what GMT time?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 08, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
Bali is +7 +8, New Zealand is +13 in the southern summer,
Moscow is +4 in its own time zone.
7.35pm New Zealand time > 1.35pm 2.35pm Bali time.

Correction - Bali is +8.

Jessica's watch is on Christchurch time.
Unless she adjusted it on layover and it's like on Sydney time or something. But that would mean they're waaaaay behind.

Joey/Meghan exit the airport at around 11.00am.
1h 9min to get to Kenanga Hotel = ~12.09pm.
10min at Kenanga Hotel according to ND = ~12.19pm.
11min to get to the Monkey Forest = ~12.29pm.
Make necessary adjustments for getting lost and doing the fruit task?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 08, 2013, 07:31:39 PM
Caps from the Detour promo.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-1_zps73c4869a.png)
1

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-2_zpsdc77b144.png)
2

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-3_zpsaeb6b1ef.png)
3

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-4_zps1e52a60a.png)
4

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-5_zps7b872022.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-6_zpsec7e94ca.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-7_zps9ad53c8d.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-8_zpsca063141.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-9_zps2a219b64.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-10_zpsf8733aa7.png)
10

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-11_zpsbcbd4f4a.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-12_zps9ea896b0.png)
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Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 08, 2013, 07:33:11 PM
Last part.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-13_zps9bcb698e.png)
13

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-14_zps9325a41d.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-15_zps3879cbd6.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-16_zps6010c80c.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-17_zps3f4f9427.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-18_zps03d50425.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-19_zps6e379190.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-20_zpsf27a6806.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-21_zpsbbc1ca02.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-22_zps39860b21.png)
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(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-23_zps4f91f465.png)
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Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: qing_her on March 08, 2013, 08:04:49 PM
Is the show done?  :oh
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
Is the show done?  :oh

This episode will air on Sunday night. But yes, the show was filmed in Nov-Dec of last year.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: qing_her on March 08, 2013, 08:16:22 PM
hahahaha  :lol3:
sorry got excited ... thought today's Monday in the Philippines HAHAHA

 :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 08, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
Ok , we need to clear that up a little bit.

Jessica's clock says 19:35 .

What time it was in BALI TIME?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 08:35:58 PM
Ok , we need to clear that up a little bit.

Jessica's clock says 19:35 .

What time it was in BALI TIME?

Neobie has ALREADY answered this twice upstream...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 08:52:09 PM
Some more of these frames please, and I may be able to get a time:

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-16_zps6010c80c.png)

But Jessica will never forgive me  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 09:34:33 PM
And a good HD freeze frame of this would be nice to have for obvious reasons!   :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 08, 2013, 09:41:28 PM
Yeah it would. And i'm not talking about the clock.

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Kidding. That would be the killer so we can know what time exactly was.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 08, 2013, 09:47:36 PM
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-10b_zpsf2f7dd6a.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Alenaveda on March 08, 2013, 09:57:52 PM
I hope this helps:

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-10b_zps5e5ba1b7.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: selkie on March 08, 2013, 10:47:08 PM
Jessica's watch is a Timex Ironman. Most of those have both 12 and 24 hour setting options, though the default setting is 12 hour.

The Ironmans also have a stopwatch function, and the 19:35 could actually be the stopwatch in action and not reflecting local clock time.  Does the line above the numbers say 'chrono' or look like it has a day of the week and date on it?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 11:02:20 PM
Awesom selkie, thanks!
 
Is that Connor in the wings??
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 11:48:59 PM
No...not Connor.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 11:50:05 PM
Another watch cap
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 11:56:08 PM
Tuesday November 20th right?   :)

TU  11 20
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 12:12:48 AM
Neobie's 2:35 pm fits good enough with the sun shadows indicating 1:55 to 2:48 pm and with the lady's wrist watch saying 3:06.

So Jessica was stuck in Rakaia Gorge.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR22/PROMO22-4-10b_zps5e5ba1b7.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 12:34:18 AM
So Jessica was stuck in Rakaia Gorge.


??? Explain please ???  Not sure what this means.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 12:35:36 AM
I have changed out the Detour video in post 2 to an HD one..thanks WP!!

Alenaveda has done most all the caps, but if you need others, holler!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 01:16:29 AM
So Jessica was stuck in Rakaia Gorge.


??? Explain please ???  Not sure what this means.

It's just that, as Neobie pointed out, her watch is showing New Zealand time.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 01:31:19 AM
oh, I was trying to think what evidence we had for a problem there! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 09, 2013, 08:28:17 AM
http://statigr.am/p/407306000774893239_52121186

Here's an Instagram picture of Caroline and Jennifer hanging and trying to approve the offering.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 11:46:22 AM
Just for clarification, Pura Desa Puseh Temple is the one Chateau found. Wikimapia labels it as "Pura Kayangan Puseh - Desa Pekraman Singakerta". "Pura" = "temple", "kayangan" = "heaven", "desa" = "village".

So now that the temple's been accounted for, no need for a U-Turn!

River
Jessica/John, Mona/Beth
Temple
Chuck/Wynona, Joey/Meghan, David/Connor, Pamela/Winnie, Caroline/Jennifer, Bates/Anthony, Max/Katie

I guess John & Jessica give up on the Gebogan assembly for the Pura Desa Puseh Temple and switch over to do the Black Sand gathering in the river.

Nevermind about my now deleted EP speculation, I mixed up Joey with John  :groan:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 01:13:15 PM
My guess is that Pam & Winnie finish the Gebogan task first, then Caroline & Jennifer, followed by Bates & Anthony.

Further guessing would make Max & Katie or Dave & Connor next and then Joey & Meghan and Chuck & Wynona.

John & Jessica finish it last if they finish it at all.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 01:28:21 PM
Are our dancers just for show or do we think there is a get a clue there?

No sign of a FF yet....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Reilly Queens on March 09, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
Have we seen Dave/Connor in any shots in Bali? If they get first it could be of the return of the FF in second leg of a KRL!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 03:24:03 PM
In the long preview they were seen at the NZ mat, in an airport, and at the Bali mat.

We also have them SIGHTED at the Bali mat...but I am not sure they were also SIGHTED actually doing the RB? ???

Nyoman, can you help us with this?

A FF would be a good answer!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 03:26:11 PM
Of course, difficult to imagine Dave dancing just now....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 09, 2013, 03:32:40 PM
In ZouLy's leg report , he says that the SON from FATHER/SON team was identified doing the Roadblock
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 04:39:31 PM
I should have seen this earlier!

This shot was taken between 1:33 and 1:52 pm (assumes November 20th).

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28504.0;attach=220528;image)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: ovalorange on March 09, 2013, 04:43:50 PM
Here's a new clip in Meghan's Ep 3 recap, it starts at 14.45. The monkeys get the detour clue for them from inside the coconut :lol: Detour is called Sandy Bottom or Fruity Top, maybe someone might be able to grab what the entire detour clue says? :)


http://youtube.com/v/QgP7AaZ767w?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 09, 2013, 04:58:55 PM
Great find!

Sandy Bottom: Dredge the volcanic sand used to make bricks from the bottom of the Ayung River. Then, using baskets, carry the sand in the traditional manner to the brick maker on Gang Bucu. When you have delivered the required amound of sand to the brick maker, you will receive your next clue.

That's all I can see and then the first few lines of Fruity Top.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Air on March 09, 2013, 05:11:01 PM
I'm going to guess that Fruity Top is what we see Bates & Anthony completing in the promos which looks like completing a sort of fruit pyramid.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 05:11:12 PM
Looks like the nearest part of the Ayung River is about 2 miles to the west of the Pura Desa Puseh Temple.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 09, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
From ZouLy's report and our Spoilers :

INFO ABOUT CHRISTCHURCH LEG :

Pam and Winnie - 2nd

Arrive at the Melbourne (connection) Airport :

IN ORDER :

Dave & Connor (Got a flight ahead to arrive in Melbourne)
Pam & Winnie (Got a flight ahead to arrive in Melbourne)
Jessica & John (Got a flight ahead to arrive in Melbourne)

Arrive at 8:37 AM (BALI TIME)

Left the Airport in order :

Pam & Winnie
Dave & Connor
Jessica & John

11:00 AM

Joey and Meghan on their way to Ubud

in about 15 minutes time, Joey and Meghan done their task

("Approx. 10 minutes later, they continue their journey to the Monkey Forest and Sanctuary for the Detour")

The distance between Monkey Forest to Uluwatu Beach is approx. 2 hours driving

2:35 PM


Jessica & John stuck at the fruit detour

River
Jessica/John, Mona/Beth
Temple
Chuck/Wynona, Joey/Meghan, David/Connor, Pamela/Winnie, Caroline/Jennifer, Bates/Anthony, Max/Katie

Also , we know that Joey/Meghan finish the Detour before Jessica & John

3:00 PM -- Roadblock

Dave & Connor
Chuck & Wynona
Caroline & Jennifer

(A F/F team checks in before 4 PM)

5:00 PM

Only 4 teams had checked-in

7:00 PM

The leg ends.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 05:47:41 PM
Quote
2:45 PM

Jessica & John stuck at the fruit detour

Is this in ZouLy's report?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 09, 2013, 05:55:50 PM
Quote
2:45 PM

Jessica & John stuck at the fruit detour

Is this in ZouLy's report?

Sorry , 2:35 PM . That was sayed by Neobie.

I edited there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 08:39:00 PM
Where is the link to this Declive? It is not the same as Zouly's report.

Is this something you are summarizing from all the info?? ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 09, 2013, 08:40:58 PM
Where is the link to this Declive? It is not the same as Zouly's report.

Is this something you are summarizing from all the info?? ???

It's a resume/summary of ZouLy's report and all the info we have!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 09:17:17 PM
Okay, I would prefer that we use the TIMELINE for this info, that has LINKS to all the sources.

First of all, this INFO is not confirmed:

Quote
INFO ABOUT CHRISTCHURCH LEG :

Pam and Winnie - 2nd

This is based on an overheard comment from a team that we know jokes around with info. It MAY very well be true, but it does not have secondary confirmation.

Also I think you may have John/Jessica confused with Max and Katie? As per Zouly's report, team "green shoes" is the team referred to...I think? I do not believe that team was ever ID'd as J/J, it is MAX that wears the green shoes.

Quote
there's the third team (which I really shocked how on earth they catch up the flight  ) was the M/F team (not-sure speculated florida team by Kandace (male green shoes)

 
 
Also THIS:
 
Quote
11:00 AM

Joey and Meghan on their way to Ubud

in about 15 minutes time, Joey and Meghan done their task

("Approx. 10 minutes later, they continue their journey to the Monkey Forest and Sanctuary for the Detour")

refers to the stop at Kenanga Terracotta Restaurant, Ubud, a possible route info.


I think for now we need to use the ORIGINAL info (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.msg817320.html#msg817320) and the TIMELINE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28504.msg845094.html#msg845094) as our factual basis, although I certainly appreciate your effort!

I will bring Zouly's info over later tonight and add to the "summary" post (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28504.msg845125.html#msg845125).

 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: GMR 602 on March 09, 2013, 10:57:50 PM
Are our dancers just for show or do we think there is a get a clue there?

No sign of a FF yet....

In the LAST 2 seasons....there was a FF in Leg 4.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Here's a new clip in Meghan's Ep 3 recap, it starts at 14.45. The monkeys get the detour clue for them from inside the coconut :lol: Detour is called Sandy Bottom or Fruity Top, maybe someone might be able to grab what the entire detour clue says? :)



Thanks oval!! :hearts:


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Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: ianthebalance on March 09, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
You could see a little note similar to the note Chuck and Wynona were seen with in the preview coming from the coconut the monkey Joey and Meghan were with. I think after the detour, they give a coconut to the monkey who gives them their next clue.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 09, 2013, 11:35:19 PM
Are our dancers just for show or do we think there is a get a clue there?

No sign of a FF yet....

In the LAST 2 seasons....there was a FF in Leg 4.

The only team we haven't seened doing any task or speculated was Mona & Beth.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 11:58:10 PM
Yes we have, in the LONG PREVIEW: (caps upstream)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0589.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0690.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 11:59:36 PM
You could see a little note similar to the note Chuck and Wynona were seen with in the preview coming from the coconut the monkey Joey and Meghan were with. I think after the detour, they give a coconut to the monkey who gives them their next clue.

They receive the clue FOR the Detour.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 10, 2013, 12:29:25 AM
Hmm yeah...do we have Max & Katie?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
Hmm yeah...do we have Max & Katie?

The caps are all posted...maybe YOU could check them?? :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: kiki on March 10, 2013, 12:38:24 AM
Hmm yeah...do we have Max & Katie?

I think we have Katie in one of the promos on her own. The location looks like the same pavilion that Jennifer is sitting but the lighting is different. Check the first page picture 26.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 10, 2013, 12:40:37 AM
Hmm yeah...do we have Max & Katie?

I think we have Katie in one of the promos on her own. The location looks like the same pavilion that Jennifer is sitting but the lighting is different. Check the first page picture 26.

Saw that. I think we have Max doing the Roadblock , than.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: ianthebalance on March 10, 2013, 01:17:10 AM
So either there is no Fast Forward or it is unused.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: GMR 602 on March 10, 2013, 01:24:07 AM
D and C the only ones that can do the FF?? (assuming that there IS one!)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: ianthebalance on March 10, 2013, 01:26:45 AM
D and C the only ones that can do the FF?? (assuming that there IS one!)

The RFF Spoiler team saw Connor doing the roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: GMR 602 on March 10, 2013, 01:28:45 AM
Correct, but Peach stated on page 6 that the explanation for why there are only three screen shots of D and C is due to the fact that there might be a FF!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: addie on March 10, 2013, 01:31:01 AM
I think this has just been done to keep the excitement of whether D & C are still racing or they quit.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 03:33:59 AM
Correct, but Peach stated on page 6 that the explanation for why there are only three screen shots of D and C is due to the fact that there might be a FF!

Not exactly. :lol:


The RFF Spoiler team saw Connor doing the roadblock.

I think that could still use some clarification... as outlined above.


We usually have some indication of a FF in the caps or previews. I am not seeing any signs there so far....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 10, 2013, 06:20:47 AM
In the long preview they were seen at the NZ mat, in an airport, and at the Bali mat.

We also have them SIGHTED at the Bali mat...but I am not sure they were also SIGHTED actually doing the RB? ???

Nyoman, can you help us with this?

A FF would be a good answer!

Pam/Winnie, Dave/Connor, & Max/Katie were the first 3 teams i saw at the airport, unfortunately i lost their track  :groan:  i arrived at the roadblock around 4 PM and i DIDN'T see any of those teams (i think all of them already checked in). first person i saw at the roadblock was Caroline and then (in random order) Bates, Joey, Chuck, John, & Beth/Mona (i forgot which one of them did the roadblock, i'm sorry)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0254.jpg) This is at the pit stop.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Ep%204/Preview-long/22-4-Previewlong-CAPS0525.jpg) and This one at the parking lot (Monkey forest). you said Teams got their clue for the detour here. if there was fast forward, why would Dave/Connor come here??
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 12:55:37 PM
:tu Nyoman!! Can I say again how AWESOME you were??  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 12:58:28 PM
Do we know where the Fruity Top challenge is?? Is it the same place as our Dancers?

??? ??? ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on March 10, 2013, 01:15:29 PM
Do we know where the Fruity Top challenge is?? Is it the same place as our Dancers?

??? ??? ???

no, it's different place. from CBS website: " team must assemble an elaborate religious offering known as a "Gebogan" then TAKE IT TO the Pura Desa Puseh Temple for a blessing in order to receive the next clue"
so they assemble the "Gebogan" somewhere and then take it to the Dancers (Pura Desa Puseh Temple)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 10, 2013, 01:20:17 PM
Do we know where the Fruity Top challenge is?? Is it the same place as our Dancers?

??? ??? ???

Yep, they are in the background.  However, the Gebogan building location may be someplace else and they have to deliver them to Pura Desa Puseh Temple.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28504.0;attach=220521;image)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 01:55:37 PM
Maybe it is my poor temple at Ubud!! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Chateau d If on March 10, 2013, 02:58:02 PM
It's probably just down the street but I have not been able to find it  :'(

The GE resolution is too fuzzy to sort out the minimal information at hand.  Sometimes it looks like there is a temple in everybody's backyard  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Joeyengen on March 10, 2013, 06:05:37 PM
According to Wikipedia leg 4 is also a no pit stop to be continue on ???


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_22
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
According to Wikipedia leg 4 is also a no pit stop to be continue on ???


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_22

And you believe it?? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 10, 2013, 06:10:51 PM
According to Wikipedia leg 4 is also a no pit stop to be continue on ???


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_22

Read the note at the bottom - it's underlined to indicate that it's the second half of a KOR/TBC leg
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 10, 2013, 06:18:22 PM
Joey , last year wikipedia said that the Twinnies wouldn't use their Express Pass , it's not trustable at all
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: theschnauzers on March 10, 2013, 06:51:50 PM
I was just looking at that Wiki article, and it mentions the episode was a TBC not the leg, and the footnote also mentioned that there was no mandatory rest period.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Joeyengen on March 10, 2013, 07:50:17 PM
maybe J&J get eliminated without using the express pass ??? hahahahaha :D
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 10:19:57 PM
A TREAT!!  :lol:
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/aTMdJgn6CuU?hl

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: GMR 602 on March 11, 2013, 02:08:04 AM
Loved this ep!
This season is on track to meet or exceed season 20, which is the BEST season post all-stars...if things keep up...it may even be comparable to a season PRE all stars :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: hotriceguy on March 11, 2013, 03:56:04 AM
This episode is pretty awesome. Except I dislike the fact that Conner is cheating in the RB and steal the first place again. I don't buy the cancer story. Correct me if I was wrong.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: BuuYaa on March 11, 2013, 06:17:18 AM
This episode is pretty awesome. Except I dislike the fact that Conner is cheating in the RB and steal the first place again. I don't buy the cancer story. Correct me if I was wrong.

I don't really want to speak about the cancer

But yeah I found it pretty annoying he cheated on the RB.
Winnie didn't want to give it to you then don't cheat you loser!!!
Really it's not that he broke a rule and should be penalized, it was just a manner as a fair racer.

Stealing a cab, that's fine because the cab is not possessed to the racers, but stealing an answer is just  :dick

Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: David on March 11, 2013, 06:19:27 AM
This episode is pretty awesome. Except I dislike the fact that Conner is cheating in the RB and steal the first place again. I don't buy the cancer story. Correct me if I was wrong.

I don't really want to speak about the cancer

But yeah I found it pretty annoying he cheated on the RB.
Winnie didn't want to give it to you then don't cheat you loser!!!
Really it's not that he broke a rule and should be penalized, it was just a manner as a fair racer.

Stealing a cab, that's fine because the cab is not possessed to the racers, but stealing an answer is just  :dick



=Stealing $5,000













EACH.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on March 11, 2013, 07:37:11 AM
I would have peek for the answers too. If I were stressed on the race, I would. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt because it's just dumb not to peek if given the chance.

BUT, I wouldn't then race the person whom I've got the answer from by cheating, for first place.

I wouldn't take the money without feeling guilty.

And I hate it because THEY STOLE THE WIN FROM AN ALL-FEMALE TEAM. :knuckles: :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on March 11, 2013, 07:38:06 AM
And I did not buy the cancer story since Leg 1. Sorry peach, I know you love them but for me they are just a really sneaky and cut-throat team. :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: redskevin88 on March 11, 2013, 07:40:56 AM
And I did not buy the cancer story since Leg 1. Sorry peach, I know you love them but for me they are just a really sneaky and cut-throat team. :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

So???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on March 11, 2013, 07:42:51 AM
+ I think getting eliminated with the Express Pass will be the worst and most stupid mistake ever made by a team on the history of The Amazing Race. Nothing else tops that, not checking for an earlier flight (Rob and Amber), driving in the wrong directions (Debbie and Bianca), taking a cab to the pitstop and thus breaking the rule and getting eliminated (Kevin and Michael, Heather and Eve)... NOTHING TOP THIS.

They had so many chance to use the Express Pass and then they kept it in their pockets.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on March 11, 2013, 07:53:01 AM
And I did not buy the cancer story since Leg 1. Sorry peach, I know you love them but for me they are just a really sneaky and cut-throat team. :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

So???

So, it's my opinion? :res:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: BuuYaa on March 11, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
+ I think getting eliminated with the Express Pass will be the worst and most stupid mistake ever made by a team on the history of The Amazing Race. Nothing else tops that, not checking for an earlier flight (Rob and Amber), driving in the wrong directions (Debbie and Bianca), taking a cab to the pitstop and thus breaking the rule and getting eliminated (Kevin and Michael, Heather and Eve)... NOTHING TOP THIS.

They had so many chance to use the Express Pass and then they kept it in their pockets.

A THOUSAND PERCENT AGREED ....
they actually made Misa&Maiya from TAR20 seemed a little bit better  :lol3:

I think I remembered posting something here about JJ thinking too much on who to hand over the 2nd EP that they forgot to use their own EP
that was supposed to be a joke
Well who knows turned out I was right ...  :lol3:

And I did not buy the cancer story since Leg 1. Sorry peach, I know you love them but for me they are just a really sneaky and cut-throat team. :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

Well could you imagine if Dave hadn't injured his leg? Do you think they would still have the "sweet-Father/Son-we-survived-cancer-YOU-KNOW" editing? For me .................................. YES OF COURSE... they'll still have that kind a editing. We are supposed to love'em anyway Y'ALL...
it would be like
"hey you guys, sorry we u-turned you.it's because you know, we got cancer and we're injured"

Never liked'em in the first place. The only parent-child teams I ever adored so far was Nancy&Emily and Gary&Mallory. The rest were just either sucks or mean spirited, ... or both *cough*Susan&Patrick*cough* (well Ron&Christina too probably but they were mean to Nicolas&Donald. It was a little annoying for me seeing them minding other team's business)
 


Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 11, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
I would have peek for the answers too. If I were stressed on the race, I would. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt because it's just dumb not to peek if given the chance.

BUT, I wouldn't then race the person whom I've got the answer from by cheating, for first place.

I wouldn't take the money without feeling guilty.

And I hate it because THEY STOLE THE WIN FROM AN ALL-FEMALE TEAM. :knuckles: :knuckles:
*cough*AbbieandRyan*cough* :res:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 11, 2013, 11:28:12 AM
I think Connor was a genious to look at the surf board. He wasn't cheating , and that was the right move , cause Pam & Winnie suck at navigation/directions and we all know that. They were so slow and dumb that always lost their 2nd place to Max & Katie.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: hotriceguy on March 11, 2013, 01:36:54 PM
I think Connor was a genious to look at the surf board. He wasn't cheating , and that was the right move , cause Pam & Winnie suck at navigation/directions and we all know that. They were so slow and dumb that always lost their 2nd place to Max & Katie.

Please give the teams some respects. They are not "dumb" enough so far to lose a leg. I just hate Conner's attitude that he did not even have any guiltiness after peaking Winnie's board and stealing the win, which he had already known what he was looking for. Also, not only Winnie but most of the team members who perform the RB had hard time to navigate the PS.  Plus, this time they won their 2nd place from Max & Katie.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on March 11, 2013, 03:30:09 PM
So you people actually would NOT have peeked at Winnie's correct board just in case - while in the heat of the race? I find that hard to believe. Kudos to him for having a look when he had the chance. For goodness sakes, you cannot think if you were racing you would not do the same. Countless teams have tried to look at other teams work / correct answer! Gosh.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: theschnauzers on March 11, 2013, 04:15:38 PM
I have a real problem with people who want to say that a team whose cast bio makes clear that both members on the team were diagnosed and treated for cancer and are in remission are lying. If you think that is a lie, prove it. Otherwise, don't be so damn irresponsible with such comments.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Laimis on March 11, 2013, 04:31:29 PM
Someone said that they're lying about their cancer?  :ascared They even showed pictures on TAR22 (I don't remember which episode) when he was bold because of cancer
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: hotriceguy on March 11, 2013, 05:41:42 PM
The cancer story must not be a lie, but CBS should stop emphasizing. I have sympathy on them at first, but the editing makes their cancer story become annoying.
The production team should find a larger place probably like a beach or a park for the RB task, then the RB performers will get less chance to peek on the others. Winnie is somehow naive in the race. =[
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: jostor on March 12, 2013, 06:04:20 AM
Even though CBS lied about some racer's backgrounds and relationships in the past I very much doubt they'd make things up about them being cancer survivors. That said though I think it was a garbage move to look at Winnie's board, I understand the stress of the race and I would probably have done the same in his situation, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on March 12, 2013, 07:48:18 AM
I do not like the father and son, but there's no way CBS is lying about their cancer.

Them "cheating" and winning the leg and getting cancer are two DIFFERENT THINGS. People, don't say such comments please. Them going through cancer is hard enough already, who would want to lie about such things? :res:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Hooky on March 12, 2013, 10:00:58 AM
I didn't see that as anything other than a competitive move, one which I would likely have made also, if given the chance. I'm pretty sure Max & Katie, Caroline & Jennifer, or most of the other teams would have done the exact same thing.

I still like them and am rooting for them, even if nobody else is. And in this last episode we didn't see as much of them as we have in the past episodes, so I think editing is getting better.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Neobie on March 12, 2013, 11:43:01 AM
I don't know where to draw the line between following another team's taxi (which I find acceptable) and stealing another team's answer (which I have objections to). Are these two things qualitatively different?

Anyway, when Pam/Winnie exit the construction "temple" (I think it might be a hotel or a meditation centre of some sort?) you see a "Kememai" shop across the street. That should put it half a minute's walk south of the Pura Desa Puseh (the blessing temple) according to this map (http://www.geocities.co.jp/yosh_3jp/bali9/CompleteNyuhKuningMAP2.jpg). We also see a "Jalan Nyuh Gading" street sign as Bates/Anthony arrive, but it's such a small street that I can't find it on any map - the streets all seem to be named after colours though. The district is called "Nyuh Kuning", which is also the main street.
(kuning=yellow gading=ivory, jalan=road)

Anyone wants to try find where the other Detour option is along the Ayung River? "Gang Bucu" is again a tiny street that doesn't appear on maps.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: ianthebalance on March 12, 2013, 06:46:12 PM
Just watched the episode. I didn't see anything wrong with what Connor did. Winnie should have put her hand over the sticker when she came back to the sufrboard area. It was Winnie's fault. She took the surdboard BACK to the surfboard site and didn't even cover it up!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: jostor on March 14, 2013, 02:25:32 PM
A taxi is not something that's "yours" the taxi driver can make his own choice of who he wants to drive or not. Peeking on another teams solution like that is very borderline cheating, but then again, Winnie should have covered it up better.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Dånooky on March 18, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
A taxi is not something that's "yours" the taxi driver can make his own choice of who he wants to drive or not. Peeking on another teams solution like that is very borderline cheating, but then again, Winnie should have covered it up better.
It is yours if you hired him and the meter is still running
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Declive on March 22, 2013, 01:14:07 PM
Meghan sayed in her video review that she forgot the fanny pack while searching for Phil in the Terrace Downs pit stop. They were initially ahead of Hockey and Pam/Winnie.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on March 22, 2013, 01:51:26 PM
A taxi is not something that's "yours" the taxi driver can make his own choice of who he wants to drive or not. Peeking on another teams solution like that is very borderline cheating, but then again, Winnie should have covered it up better.
It is yours if you hired him and the meter is still running

I think they are not allowed to take another team's cab if the meter is still running, unless they agree to pay the cab the existing fare that's been incurred on the leg. With that, they are actually using their own money and causing themselves some sort of a disadvantage.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on May 27, 2013, 10:22:32 AM
I did some TAR hunting in Bali and no wonder the locals do not know the pit-stop location that the racers were referring to. They do not normally open up that part of the beach for people. Heck, even the Roadblock location is actually a deck for beach chairs, where you will need to pay before you can access that area as well. The whole place was CONFUSING as hell and I ran up the same flight of stairs that Bates and Anthony were seen going up and down many many times as well, because there's just no way of finding out where the hell the exact pit-stop location is! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: georgiapeach on May 27, 2013, 05:58:03 PM
Love it!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on May 28, 2013, 10:43:33 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/310147_10151355421455653_24957419_n.jpg)

The beach deck is the actual area where the Roadblock took place.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/420060_10151369758335653_502483234_n.jpg)

Remember who first ripped open their clue here?
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Pamela and Winnie


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/960007_10151369759800653_735217230_n.jpg)

The long winding steps that the racers had to climb. But before that they need to descend some really steep steps! Real hard work!


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/970038_10151369760205653_327743291_n.jpg)

That's the Roadblock area that was locked.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/970059_10151369760710653_1568577968_n.jpg)

And so, this was the start of the flight of stairs. You need to TURN RIGHT at a point, which is LOCKED (now) and hidden and not really seen by the locals.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/481533_10151369760745653_941653524_n.jpg)

And the steps go ALLLLL THE WAY UP!


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/960036_10151369761340653_1855649553_n.jpg)

The red shed was where the partners had to wait for the Roadblockers!


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/479737_10151369761710653_1645320359_n.jpg)

Can you find where the red shed is hidden now? And totally blocked off is the "pitstop" at behind the rocks, WHICH IS INACCESSIBLE. :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: (at least on the day I went!)


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294751_10151369759885653_1601753002_n.jpg)

Remember the racer who ran here aimlessly? :lol3:
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Chuck!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on May 28, 2013, 10:48:44 AM
NOTE: One of these monkeys may have been the stars at Ubud Monkey Forest. :lol3:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316179_10151354071055653_1461056123_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/984166_10151369753090653_955198933_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969004_10151369753355653_339301533_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/574579_10151369755160653_1737515966_n.jpg)

It was pretty direct that the location of the task was right in the heart of the forest, nothing much to do detective work about, and depending on where the monkeys bring their coconut, that's the location where teams have to pray and hope that the monkey open them and deliver their clue. :oh
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: themikko95 on May 29, 2013, 05:23:45 AM
Love the pics!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: David on May 29, 2013, 05:35:27 AM
Jobby <33333333333333333

PS: Could bring them to "Retrace the Steps of TAR".
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: Jobby on May 29, 2013, 01:01:24 PM
And there I was, thinking who was Mr D. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Ep 4 "I Love Monkeys"
Post by: David on May 29, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
And there I was, thinking who was Mr D. :lol3:

LOL.

Have been since I registered searching for a PLAIN David. TL has got it for me. <3

The D may eventually return in a future.

PS: Jobby, not so many people with Jessie J avies.