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Title: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on October 25, 2012, 01:07:29 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/comsoon1.gif)

This is where all the speculation of the TAR 22 race goes, NOT in the LIVE thread.
 
**NEW** Let's try keeping all the confirmed LOCATION info together so it is easier to find. So anything about a location we are sure of can go HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28047.0.html).
 
All info about TEAMS can go in the Contestant thread HERE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28049.0.html).

As always, per RFF's practices, we do not spoil the start location (if known) or any teams until it is believed that the teams are safely underway. We would never want to jeopardize a team's chances or to interfere with the start. But if you have info to share before then, we would love to know, so please PM or email me! Spoilers are treasured!
 
This thread will be opened once we know for sure the race has begun.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on November 13, 2012, 08:11:29 PM
Next Destination appears to be:


Papeete, Tahiti!  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papeete)

Via AIr France and Air Tahiti.
 
 :dancer: :beach:   :dancer:
 
 
Damn. Now I AM jealous!
ah, my wish was granted.  They should race to Australia/South Pacific as their 1st destination and forget about South America, due to TARLA's racing within that continent since their 1st season.  Hopefully they should go to my country, the Philippines after that.  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 13, 2012, 08:25:53 PM
OMG Tahiti! LOVE IT! C :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf:

I had Tahiti in like 10 of my wishlist routes  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 13, 2012, 08:26:09 PM
If Tahiti is true.. and they land the 14th, have time to do the leg, then assumes 12 hour pit stop,
can depart early AM the 15th.

And looking at flightstats, its all random south pacific, Bora Bora, Rarotonga(<3) and other places in French Polynesia.

if its extended pit stop(could be true to get production out of Tahiti to the next locale)

depart late the 15th/midnightish the 16th

They have a 2:00AM flight to Auckland (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=280580490&airlineCode=NZ&flightNumber=41)
and a 6:30AM flight to Tokyo (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=280580503&airline=TN&flightNumber=78&departureDate=2012-11-16)

Its most likely gonna be a forced bunched flight, since tbh there isn't as many options.

They can also fly back to LAX, but it wouldn't be in their best interest to drag them through the area again and would be costing more $$$ to. But you never know!

But its gonna get crazy since Tahiti is so stranded(guess they're trying to get out of spoilers, but failed! :b)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 13, 2012, 08:28:07 PM
Assuming Tahiti is the first destination, then a Race almost completely in the southern hemisphere is a possibility. It would be spring headed into summer, and could see a Race course going to Australia-New Zealand, Africa, and Latin America. Maybe they'll drop by Antarctica on the way. :)

The fact that there's a TAR:LA would not affect where TAR would go, since American television does not air any of the international editions of TAR.

Kandice, I don't think we should think in terms of a "standard" 12 hour pit stop, because there isn't a standard length any longer. We should look for the next stop to be somewhere and somewhen that allows production to get ahead of the teams by a flight but allow all continuing teams to make it out without having delays for an additional day.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 13, 2012, 08:32:06 PM
Tokyo and New Zealand are the only logical next airports that connect to FAA international airport

Also what a great start line to pick as it was untrackable according to opening times (as its closed on Tuesdays :lol:)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on November 13, 2012, 08:49:57 PM
Since it appears its starting in Tahiti, I'm guessing that this season continent line up is like Season 18. Oceania-Asia-Europe-South America-North America.
I'm hoping that this time, there wil be less legs in Asia, and 2-4 legs in South America (I love it when South America gets 4 legs, hasn't been done since Season 11  :'(). These are my speculation first 5 legs.

1. Tahiti
2. New Zealand
3. Philippines
4. Philippines
5. (East Asia)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 13, 2012, 09:07:56 PM
Interesting to note that they are not crossing the IDL meaning that they will lose a day when they eventually cross over. Is that mean more quicker and shorter legs?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 13, 2012, 09:24:38 PM
There aren't too many places to head to after Tahiti. I wouldn't be surprised if Europe was skipped this time, as TAR 21 spent a lot of time in Europe, and completely omitted Africa and South America.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 13, 2012, 09:27:34 PM
They could move back to Chile. There's a flight to Chile from Papeete, right? That would be great!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on November 13, 2012, 09:29:08 PM
They could move back to Chile. There's a flight to Chile from Papeete, right? That would be great!

The only problem with that is that asia will most likely be completely skipped.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on November 13, 2012, 09:30:43 PM
There aren't too many places to head to after Tahiti. I wouldn't be surprised if Europe was skipped this time, as TAR 21 spent a lot of time in Europe, and completely omitted Africa and South America.

I dont think that would happen. There is a direct flight to Auckland from Tahiti if I am not mistaken. From there, they can go to Asia and Europe eventually. It looks like 4-5 continents to me (I predict South America will have a later visit.).
Aslo, I think the race will spend 5-7 legs in Europe/Asia, since we just had a whole season in Europe/Asia.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 13, 2012, 09:59:52 PM
http://www.urbanutilities.com.au/Infrastructure/AIP_Plan/Capital_works_projects/

Shows the water plant is known as WRP so maybe its a confusion
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 13, 2012, 11:00:09 PM
I have a pretty good guess that Leg 2 is in New Zealand, and maybe Leg 3 somewhere near by do make up time? Again, its spec and might not happen, lol (:

They can get into NZ with these flights (the links are to flightstats)
November 15th
Tahiti -> Rarotonga (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=280484346&airline=VT&flightNumber=35&departureDate=2012-11-15)
12:20PM 15th -> 2:50PM 15th

Then on the 15thstill
Rarotonga to AUCKLAND (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=280485837&airline=NZ&flightNumber=45&departureDate=2012-11-15)
Dep 5:30PM 15th ARR 8:50PM 16th(International Date Line is going be rude lol)

They can get in and go around and get their stuff together and do what they do

Then teams fly to Auckland direct using

Tahiti -> AUCKLAND (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=280580490&airline=NZ&flightNumber=41&departureDate=2012-11-16)
2:00AM 16th -> 6:55AM the 17th
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Heliox on November 14, 2012, 12:38:11 AM
woo hoo.. best place to be on the internet when the racing is on. Great work on the information already!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 14, 2012, 12:52:04 AM
So for the Air France flight, we have the blondes, red shirt, and firefighters?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: NiceGuy on November 14, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
Great job so far everyone!!!  :tup:

Any reality stars or D-list celebs yet?? 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 14, 2012, 01:01:47 AM
throwing this for what it's worth or maybe not..

Practical info :
Thursday, November 15, 2012 until Sunday, November 18, 2012 at 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.   

Gardens and House of Culture
Papeete

Website: http://www.monoiaddict.com  Tel: 43.18.49

Description:

Quote
La semaine du Monoï, rendez-vous désormais incontournable à Tahiti, Monoï Here (prononcer Monoï Héré) pourrait se traduire par "Monoï chéri" ou "Monoï mon amour" et réunit chaque année tous les amoureux du Monoï. Une occasion unique de rencontrer les Mamas venues des différents archipels, d'échanger des recettes traditionnelles, de découvrir les plantes de la pharmacopée Ma'ohi, ou de s'offrir de véritables moments de plaisir et d'émotions.

Thème de cette année: "Les Nouvelles Vahinés"

Stands d’expositions-ventes, conférences, massages, démonstrations, projections de films documentaires,etc., à la Maison de la Culture.

Salon : Monoi Here, la semaine du Monoi
Jeudi 15 et dimanche 18 novembre 2012 – de 09h00 à 18h00
Vendredi 16 et samedi 17 – de 09h00 à 20h00

Google translate :

Monoi week, must now go to Tahiti, Monoi Here (pronounced Monoi Héré) could be translated as "Monoi darling" or "my love Monoi" and meets annually all lovers of Monoi. A unique opportunity to meet the Mamas came various archipelagos, share traditional recipes, discover plants Ma'ohi pharmacopoeia or to offer genuine moments of pleasure and emotions. theme this year: "The New Vahinés" Stands for sales exhibitions, conferences, massages, demonstrations, documentary films, etc.., the Maison de la Culture. Salon: Monoi Here, the week of Monoi Thursday 15 until Sunday, November 18, 2012 - from 09:00 to 18:00 Friday 16 and Saturday 17 - 09:00 to 20:00

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/tahiti1.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 14, 2012, 01:08:31 AM

there's also a little incident this morning at the local airport (FAA)  :o  :ascared

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FAA'A, Tuesday, Nov. 13, 2012. This morning a plane of ATR 42 500 Air Tahiti left the airport of Tahiti at 10am at destination Hao (Tuamotu) with 33 passengers on board. After 30 minutes of flight, the captain finds an unusual noise and suspect in the cockpit. The noise intensified in gaining altitude, the captain made ​​the decision to turn around. The aircraft landed without incident at 11:00 on the runway of the airport of Tahiti. Joining the passengers lounge while waiting for a replacement flight. Upon analysis, it appears that the whistle is due to a leak seal windshield right side.

http://www.tahiti-infos.com/Un-avion-d-Air-Tahiti-contraint-de-faire-demi-tour_a60987.html


Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: AmazingRace on November 14, 2012, 01:21:46 AM
Air Tahiti Nui Flight 101 departing at 2330?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 14, 2012, 04:33:33 AM
After French Polynesia, I am guessing New Zealand, followed by 3 legs in Asia, 2 in Africa, 3-4 in Europe and a finally returning to the USA with hopes a 11th stop in Cancun.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on November 14, 2012, 09:20:20 AM
Oh my God. Tahiti... what a random place <33333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on November 14, 2012, 10:09:50 AM

 :lol:  Seems there's "lots-o-webcams" in Tahiti.  (too bad they show mostly the resorts).   If someone has a lot of spare time, they may spot something.  Here's some webcam links:

Tahiti webcam link 1 (http://search.earthcam.com/search/ft_search.php?term=tahiti)  Tahiti webcam link 2 (http://www.camvista.com/webdir/Tahiti-Web-Cams/1000566.html)  Tahiti webcam link 2 (http://www.goandroam.com/webcams/french_polynesia/tahiti/)   ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: choroneko on November 14, 2012, 12:07:54 PM
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the next leg would be in Japan. As much as I want to, however I would love for them to be in NZ.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 14, 2012, 01:03:03 PM
New Zealand is probally next, hoping for South Island (Queenstown, Dunedin, or Christchurch). North Island was visited 3 times on three different seasons (2, 5, and 13) and South Island had only one visit (2) and it's way overdue for another. 

-I am speculating 8-10 countries and 4-5 Continents

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 14, 2012, 01:33:26 PM
Oh and a possible task to do in Tahiti is va'a(outrigger canoe) which is the national sport and and and they just had a big race on them through the leeward islands, so its possible to have a mini task? Its spec, but I think it could be cool :b
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 14, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Searching on Twitter I found a link to this:

REALITY NATION

Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?
Rumors flying that BB12 and BB14's Britney will be on TAR21
Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?   


According to Twitter, hilarious former Big Brother contestant Britney Haynes could be filming The Amazing Race 22.

Several people have picked up on the rumor that Britney and an unknown partner started filming the next season of TAR on November 12. There’s been absolutely no confirmation at this point and it’s all speculation. As of now, the only proof we’ve got is that Britney hasn’t tweeted since the 12th. And we realize that’s not proof at all, but just enough of a “humph” to raise our eyebrows.

Britney, are you out there? Can you dispel this rumor? Or better yet, can someone confirm? Personally, I would LOVE to see Britney on The Amazing Race. Can you imagine how hilarious she’d be? I’d definitely be watching. Of course I don’t expect this rumor to be true no matter how much I want it to be. I just don’t really see Britney being interested in being on the show. We’ll keep you posted, one way or the other.

Britney finished fourth during Big Brother 12 and won the fan favorite award. She returned during Season 14 as a coach and later entered the game, finishing in 8th place.


 :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: amazingracer921 on November 14, 2012, 07:34:56 PM
Searching on Twitter I found a link to this:

REALITY NATION

Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?
Rumors flying that BB12 and BB14's Britney will be on TAR21
Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?   


According to Twitter, hilarious former Big Brother contestant Britney Haynes could be filming The Amazing Race 22.

Several people have picked up on the rumor that Britney and an unknown partner started filming the next season of TAR on November 12. There’s been absolutely no confirmation at this point and it’s all speculation. As of now, the only proof we’ve got is that Britney hasn’t tweeted since the 12th. And we realize that’s not proof at all, but just enough of a “humph” to raise our eyebrows.

Britney, are you out there? Can you dispel this rumor? Or better yet, can someone confirm? Personally, I would LOVE to see Britney on The Amazing Race. Can you imagine how hilarious she’d be? I’d definitely be watching. Of course I don’t expect this rumor to be true no matter how much I want it to be. I just don’t really see Britney being interested in being on the show. We’ll keep you posted, one way or the other.

Britney finished fourth during Big Brother 12 and won the fan favorite award. She returned during Season 14 as a coach and later entered the game, finishing in 8th place.


 :duno:

Big Brother 14 winner Ian Terry says the rumors have no legs.

“Well, considering Brit and I texted each other on the 13th, not too likely she’s on TAR,” he Tweeted.

Britney finished fourth during Big Brother 12 and won the fan favorite award. She returned during Season 14 as a coach and later entered the game, finishing in 8th place.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 14, 2012, 07:42:08 PM
Searching on Twitter I found a link to this:

REALITY NATION

Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?
Rumors flying that BB12 and BB14's Britney will be on TAR21
Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?   


According to Twitter, hilarious former Big Brother contestant Britney Haynes could be filming The Amazing Race 22.

Several people have picked up on the rumor that Britney and an unknown partner started filming the next season of TAR on November 12. There’s been absolutely no confirmation at this point and it’s all speculation. As of now, the only proof we’ve got is that Britney hasn’t tweeted since the 12th. And we realize that’s not proof at all, but just enough of a “humph” to raise our eyebrows.

Britney, are you out there? Can you dispel this rumor? Or better yet, can someone confirm? Personally, I would LOVE to see Britney on The Amazing Race. Can you imagine how hilarious she’d be? I’d definitely be watching. Of course I don’t expect this rumor to be true no matter how much I want it to be. I just don’t really see Britney being interested in being on the show. We’ll keep you posted, one way or the other.

Britney finished fourth during Big Brother 12 and won the fan favorite award. She returned during Season 14 as a coach and later entered the game, finishing in 8th place.


 :duno:

Big Brother 14 winner Ian Terry says the rumors have no legs.

“Well, considering Brit and I texted each other on the 13th, not too likely she’s on TAR,” he Tweeted.

Britney finished fourth during Big Brother 12 and won the fan favorite award. She returned during Season 14 as a coach and later entered the game, finishing in 8th place.

Britney last registered tweet was on the 12th not the 13th. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mug Costanza on November 14, 2012, 07:59:32 PM
Searching on Twitter I found a link to this:

REALITY NATION

Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?
Rumors flying that BB12 and BB14's Britney will be on TAR21
Britney Haynes On Amazing Race?   


According to Twitter, hilarious former Big Brother contestant Britney Haynes could be filming The Amazing Race 22.

Several people have picked up on the rumor that Britney and an unknown partner started filming the next season of TAR on November 12. There’s been absolutely no confirmation at this point and it’s all speculation. As of now, the only proof we’ve got is that Britney hasn’t tweeted since the 12th. And we realize that’s not proof at all, but just enough of a “humph” to raise our eyebrows.

Britney, are you out there? Can you dispel this rumor? Or better yet, can someone confirm? Personally, I would LOVE to see Britney on The Amazing Race. Can you imagine how hilarious she’d be? I’d definitely be watching. Of course I don’t expect this rumor to be true no matter how much I want it to be. I just don’t really see Britney being interested in being on the show. We’ll keep you posted, one way or the other.

Britney finished fourth during Big Brother 12 and won the fan favorite award. She returned during Season 14 as a coach and later entered the game, finishing in 8th place.


 :duno:

Big Brother 14 winner Ian Terry says the rumors have no legs.

“Well, considering Brit and I texted each other on the 13th, not too likely she’s on TAR,” he Tweeted.

Britney finished fourth during Big Brother 12 and won the fan favorite award. She returned during Season 14 as a coach and later entered the game, finishing in 8th place.

Britney last registered tweet was on the 12th not the 13th. 

Texted, not tweeted.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 14, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
It's not very likely because of the outrigger canoe Detour completed in Malawi in season 19 unless it's an early Switchback. I am thinking there might be a noni fruit-related task or plantation Pit Stop.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2012, 08:40:42 PM
Based on the one possible M/F team, and Chateau just posted that pic....I would say NO.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 14, 2012, 09:11:11 PM
I wonder if that Bora Bora cluebox will be a part of Leg 1, or if they are spending one leg in Tahiti and one in Bora Bora. I hope they do two legs, but I reckon it'll probably be one. Just speculating/
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 14, 2012, 09:18:33 PM

I knew this was right!!

I was observing some live cameras inside the ferry from FAA'A airport to the island of Moorea, and some locals who tweeted saw some foreigners, and there they headed to bora-bora by ferry..

Looks like a water task first, either canoe or stand up paddling, or they could be taken by one of the speedboats somewhere to the middle of the islands/ocean

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 14, 2012, 09:37:18 PM

I knew this was right!!

I was observing some live cameras inside the ferry from FAA'A airport to the island of Moorea, and some locals who tweeted saw some foreigners, and there they headed to bora-bora by ferry..

Looks like a water task first, either canoe or stand up paddling, or they could be taken by one of the speedboats somewhere to the middle of the islands/ocean

Crossing my fingers it will be another Ha Long Bay (Vietnam) in season 10 experience...  :yess: Yay for rowing drama!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2012, 09:45:53 PM

I knew this was right!!

I was observing some live cameras inside the ferry from FAA'A airport to the island of Moorea, and some locals who tweeted saw some foreigners, and there they headed to bora-bora by ferry..

Looks like a water task first, either canoe or stand up paddling, or they could be taken by one of the speedboats somewhere to the middle of the islands/ocean



Any screencaps? ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 14, 2012, 09:50:45 PM

Any screencaps? ???

Still waiting for approval, hope he's kind enough to share it to us :)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: coolio on November 14, 2012, 09:52:56 PM
Britney has been tweeting, but it feels like a handler.

Quote
@britney_haynes
You guys are soooo silly with these rumors! I'm actually on vacation in Greece and just got this great bag!

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 14, 2012, 09:59:04 PM
Lmao it is either Britney poking fun at the rumors for last seasons big brother when Janelle sent a tweet that said "on vacation in Greece" or whatever. The pic she sent was a pic from an article online lol. Janelle was really in sequester.

So either Britney is just joking around OR her handler is making a joke similar to the one used for Janelle
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: amazingracer921 on November 14, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Lmao it is either Britney poking fun at the rumors for last seasons big brother when Janelle sent a tweet that said "on vacation in Greece" or whatever. The pic she sent was a pic from an article online lol. Janelle was really in sequester.

So either Britney is just joking around OR her handler is making a joke similar to the one used for Janelle

I'm not buying it one bit
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 14, 2012, 10:05:33 PM

Can we case closed this Brittney BB rumors and get a move on..???  :lol:


Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 14, 2012, 10:09:55 PM

Can we case closed this Brittney BB rumors and get a move on..???  :lol:

Unless until we have any solid evidence on one way or another.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 14, 2012, 10:43:38 PM

Can we case closed this Brittney BB rumors and get a move on..???  :lol:

Unless until we have any solid evidence on one way or another.

I'm sorry, but for someone who watched Britney Haynes on the BB feeds a lot, I can safely say its not true. The Greece tweet, was just a well done snap at Janelle :lol:

(http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/77b24712bd1c8e8cd1854473d81b96beebd029.jpg)

Plus, like someone said Britney is way to short to be the shown girls. Sorry. But no.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
There are no women on the race who look like Brit...pics will show!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: eddiethejet on November 15, 2012, 12:31:37 AM
i said it already in another thread but i'll say it here too.  all the girls so far seem to be too tall to be brit anyways.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on November 15, 2012, 01:14:45 AM
Anyway, is there any information of starting line task? Or maybe there's no starting line task? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 15, 2012, 04:30:52 AM
Anyway, is there any information of starting line task? Or maybe there's no starting line task? :duno:

This is interesting guys...  ;)

often we speculate starting line with our first destination where they both have some sort of connection..

now that we know both locations:

1. Griffith Observatory

2. Tahiti


Now, my thesis is that there's a connection between those two in terms of the astronomical occurance,

The transit of Venus occurs when the planet Venus passes directly between the Earth and the Sun

Quote

http://www.griffithobservatory.org/exhibits/special/Special_Event_Transit_of_Venus.html

Public Viewing of the Transit of Venus
Tuesday, June 5, 2012
3:06 p.m. - 8:02 p.m.
(Building Open 12:00 noon - 10:00 p.m.)

What is the transit of Venus?
The transit of Venus occurs when the planet Venus passes directly between the Earth and the Sun. During the transit, Venus will appear as a small black dot on the face of the Sun. Historically, this alignment permitted the size of our solar system to be measured. After this transit, no transit of Venus will occur for another 105 years! So if you miss this transit you will have to wait until December 11, 2117. The last transit of Venus occurred on June 8, 2004, but was not visible in Los Angeles. In fact, no transit of Venus has been visible from Los Angeles since December 6, 1882.


and I am sure some of you (especially Kandace) know what happened in Tahiti a long time ago... :


Quote

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/28may_cook/

.... The view from Point Venus, Tahiti, where Cook and his men observed the transit of Venus....

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/RFF%20Stuff/ptvenus.jpg)



Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Don Task on November 15, 2012, 05:50:31 AM
If there is the flight from Tahiti to New Zealand via Rarotonga, what about a leg @ Cook Islands? That would be cool. It would be like...
Leg 1: Tahiti
Leg 2: Cook Islands
Leg 3 & 4: New Zealand
...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: weihen on November 15, 2012, 06:35:48 AM
nvm
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2012, 01:24:21 PM
i said it already in another thread but i'll say it here too.  all the girls so far seem to be too tall to be brit anyways.

I have said it anyway. NOT BRIT.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on November 16, 2012, 12:58:38 AM
Apparently they're in Hobart, Tasmania today. A friend on Facebook made a status saying they came into her work there.

my guy firend say this we got austrillia
OMG!!! SERIOUSLY???!!! :o :o :o This is getting REALLY interesting! :lol3:

Do you have more information about this? Like screenshot, maybe? :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
Just clarifying. We KNOW there are two legs in Tahiti, prob both in BoraBora. So see all of Neobie's info in the transport thread.

There is no way teams are in Tasmania now. Cant r/o production of course, but def not teams.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 16, 2012, 10:51:01 AM
My best guess is that the never-visited-by-an-Amazing-Race-U.S. metro area of Melbourne is the place for leg 3. That allows easy access to Hobart, Tasmania for leg 4 if the race goes there as some have hypothesized.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on November 16, 2012, 11:14:47 AM
TAR Norway visited Melbourne.  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 16, 2012, 11:15:17 AM
My best guess is that the never-visited-by-an-Amazing-Race metro area of Melbourne is the place for leg 3. That allows easy access to Hobart, Tasmania for leg 4 if the race goes there as some have hypothesized.

never-visited-by-an-Amazing-Race <------  :iok  :lol3:

It will probably NZ first, then Aussie as Weihen's source told him, and if it's indeed aussie, I doubt melbourne gonna be the place to visit, unless they want to divert it with the start of TAR Aus season 3..

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2012, 11:27:37 AM
My best guess is that the never-visited-by-an-Amazing-Race metro area of Melbourne is the place for leg 3. That allows easy access to Hobart, Tasmania for leg 4 if the race goes there as some have hypothesized.


Check out Neobie's transport info. Almost certainly the race will go next to NZ... although AUS could follow.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 16, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
Simply because an international edition of TAR (any of them) has been to a location has no influence on whether the mothership goes there. TAR original has never been to Melbourne (even though it hosted the 1956 Summer Olympics) and given Bertram's penchant for wanting to get to Olympics host cities, we can't rule it out.

For that matter, if the first two legs were in fact Tahiti/Bora Bora, and the next leg is New Zealand, it is 50-50 as to whether New Zealand is one or two legs, or Australia is one or two legs. By that point, we'd be at five legs of a presumed 12, and that leaves room for countries in Africa and South America for this edition.

The last couple of seasons have been Europe heavy (I suspect so that they could do a Europe-free season) and they've done the South/Latin America back to the end city a couple of times in recent seasons, so I think that remains a possibility, especially if the end city is not on the east coast or the west coast, but somewhere in the heartland.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 16, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
TAR Norway visited Melbourne.  ;)

TAR Norway hardly counts in this discussion. The U.S. version has never visited Melbourne and is long overdue to visit!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 16, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
I am surprised two legs were done in Bora Bora. Its such a small place I wonder what they did for those 2 legs.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 16, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
My best guess is that the never-visited-by-an-Amazing-Race metro area of Melbourne is the place for leg 3. That allows easy access to Hobart, Tasmania for leg 4 if the race goes there as some have hypothesized.


Check out Neobie's transport info. Almost certainly the race will go next to NZ... although AUS could follow.

I have exchanged PMs with Neobie. As I frequently do, he is utilizing flight information to make a best guess. The flights do focus attention on getting to Auckland, but the racers do not have to stop in New Zealand. They could change planes and continue to several Australian cities. Amazing Races do frequently land after dark, which is one reason why Neobie has cited for selecting New Zealand because there is time to run a leg in the daytime. We hopefully will be able to find the teams soon.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on November 16, 2012, 02:27:56 PM
I am surprised two legs were done in Bora Bora. Its such a small place I wonder what they did for those 2 legs.

I would say that a leg was done in Bora Bora, then they returned to Pepeete (or went to a nearby island) to do the second one, before going to their next destination (probably NZ).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 16, 2012, 02:33:47 PM
My best guess is that the never-visited-by-an-Amazing-Race metro area of Melbourne is the place for leg 3. That allows easy access to Hobart, Tasmania for leg 4 if the race goes there as some have hypothesized.


Check out Neobie's transport info. Almost certainly the race will go next to NZ... although AUS could follow.

I have exchanged PMs with Neobie. As I frequently do, he is utilizing flight information to make a best guess. The flights do focus attention on getting to Auckland, but the racers do not have to stop in New Zealand. They could change planes and continue to several Australian cities. Amazing Races do frequently land after dark, which is one reason why Neobie has cited for selecting New Zealand because there is time to run a leg in the daytime. We hopefully will be able to find the teams soon.

I think where ever a leg is possible they will do it as they are losing one day and going directly into Australia and waiting overnight makes them lose more time. However maybe the race began earlier and will take a little longer then the 23 days of recent seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 16, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
This past Race (TAR 21) was a day or so longer than the 21-22 day average IIRC; and one reason why a south Pacific island leg hasn't been done is that those locations have relatively few flights that can be used coming from or to the U.S. and the opposing direction.

When the Race when to Guam some seasons back, IIRC, teams had to go both ways via Tokyo which certainly added a day or so to filming. What TPTB seem to be doing this time is probably the only way to do it, and not lose any more time than necessary.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 16, 2012, 05:18:03 PM
The Amazing Race shooting in Bora Bora~~
 
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Tahiti/22-BoroBoraviaweibo.jpg)
 
edited to embed. Hi reta! Thank you!

I agree with what weihen said, but if they are diving, they're definitely diving for SOMETHING. I remember reading in an encyclopedia about the South Pacific and one of their oceanic economic activities being pearl harvesting. So here's my :2cents: on the Bora Bora beach or lagoon cluebox.

CLUE: Roadblock- Dive to collect pearls hidden inside oysters

Why did I spec a RB? Season 6's diving Fast Forward in Corsica was pretty sad. Rebecca did wonderfully getting the FF clue, but Adam was a waste of time trying to go underwater to touch where the clue came from. By being a RB, it would be more efficient than if each 11 teams have to follow along while someone collects.
Why did I spec pearl harvesting? French Polynesia is the home of many pearls and it would be such a disappointment to not feature such lovely jewelry. :luvu:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 16, 2012, 05:36:04 PM

I agree with what weihen said, but if they are diving, they're definitely diving for SOMETHING. I remember reading in an encyclopedia about the South Pacific and one of their oceanic economic activities being pearl harvesting. So here's my :2cents: on the Bora Bora beach or lagoon cluebox.

CLUE: Roadblock- Dive to collect pearls hidden inside oysters

Why did I spec a RB? Season 6's diving Fast Forward in Corsica was pretty sad. Rebecca did wonderfully getting the FF clue, but Adam was a waste of time trying to go underwater to touch where the clue came from. By being a RB, it would be more efficient than if each 11 teams have to follow along while someone collects.
Why did I spec pearl harvesting? French Polynesia is the home of many pearls and it would be such a disappointment to not feature such lovely jewelry. :luvu:

In the Leg 4 of TAR10, one of the Detour choices was "Under", and it was related to harvesting 30 oyster basket from a pearl farm.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 16, 2012, 10:57:36 PM

I agree with what weihen said, but if they are diving, they're definitely diving for SOMETHING. I remember reading in an encyclopedia about the South Pacific and one of their oceanic economic activities being pearl harvesting. So here's my :2cents: on the Bora Bora beach or lagoon cluebox.

CLUE: Roadblock- Dive to collect pearls hidden inside oysters

Why did I spec a RB? Season 6's diving Fast Forward in Corsica was pretty sad. Rebecca did wonderfully getting the FF clue, but Adam was a waste of time trying to go underwater to touch where the clue came from. By being a RB, it would be more efficient than if each 11 teams have to follow along while someone collects.
Why did I spec pearl harvesting? French Polynesia is the home of many pearls and it would be such a disappointment to not feature such lovely jewelry. :luvu:

In the Leg 4 of TAR10, one of the Detour choices was "Under", and it was related to harvesting 30 oyster basket from a pearl farm.

I loved that leg (best one of the season) with all that rowing, but instead of oyster baskets, I was thinking of teams retrieving pearls from faux oyster shells instead hauling up basket strings. Since I don't see any objects sticking out of the water, I highly doubt they will use traps or any other special fishing devices. Just speculating.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 16, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
amanjunkie (handle on picture of cluebox) is a hotel chain operating all over the world with a currently closed hotel in Bora Bora
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on November 17, 2012, 09:28:51 AM
Do we know if they are going to Aus and/or NZ yet?

I really do hope that they are going to NZ. It seems really likely because of the flights from Papeete to NZ & Japan (doubting this last option since they visited it twice in the past four seasons)... But why do people say that they may be going to Australia? They just visited it for two legs in TAR18 and they pretty much went everywhere in that country, while NZ's last visit was nine seasons ago...

South Island is way overdue I think... but I don't want them to only visit cities. NZ has wonderful landscapes that they never really visited (would love to see Milford Sound). if they plan two legs, I would say the other one in the north, with maybe a visit to Hobbiton...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 17, 2012, 09:44:39 AM
Flamant,

Hobbiton was on the north island about halfway between Auckland and Rotorua the only time I was privileged to visit there 16 months ago.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on November 17, 2012, 10:14:21 AM
Flamant,

Hobbiton was on the north island about halfway between Auckland and Rotorua the only time I was privileged to visit there 16 months ago.

oups, I wanted to say the other leg on the north island, not in the north of the south island. My bad :-[
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Heliox on November 17, 2012, 01:20:41 PM
I am surprised two legs were done in Bora Bora. Its such a small place I wonder what they did for those 2 legs.

I was just thinking about this. The south Pacific is so beautiful and this will be aired right in the middle of winter. What a great marketing idea for their main supporter Travelocity. Just seeing those pictures, and looking outside, makes me want to book a vacay to some place warm.  And I just got back from Hawaii 2 weeks ago!

I really think they are thinking about what might help sell vacations imho.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 17, 2012, 02:03:11 PM

I was just thinking about this. The south Pacific is so beautiful and this will be aired right in the middle of winter.

I think this will be aired during march-april-ish ???  And that's when the USA had spring maybe  :duno:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 17, 2012, 03:13:00 PM

I was just thinking about this. The south Pacific is so beautiful and this will be aired right in the middle of winter.

I think this will be aired during march-april-ish ???  And that's when the USA had spring maybe  :duno:

It will be the season's first episode which is always in February
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: loseaguy on November 17, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
Is there any possibility they will come to Melbourne? I'm in Melbourne now!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on November 17, 2012, 09:00:07 PM
Hi guys, I would like to share with you but I don't know if this message that I'll gonna post it will be on this section or not.  Anyway, I had a dream last night that the remaining teams for TAR 22 will be visit to my hometown in Manila, Philippines and they're racing within the oldest district of that city and that is in Binondo and there are many famous places there like Binondo Church and Chinatown.  Hopefully my dream will come true and they should visit to my country again since TAR 5, and also hopefully if they could visit here there should be a balut eating task just like what it did on TAR Asia 2 and TAR Australia 2 and bring a switchback task on the carabao (water buffalo) detour as what Colin and Christie did on TAR 5 and made an epic quote of his for this show. :lol3:

So please TAR US producers, hear my wish! (:;)

PS:
If anyone want to know about Binondo, Manila in which I'm talking about just search it on Google and Wikipedia.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 17, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
TAR 22 appears to have flown from Papeete, Tahiti to Auckland, New Zealand on Air Tahiti Nui flight 101, which departed Papeete about 2 1/2 late. While it's possible that the next leg is underway in Auckland, it's also possible that people are seeing teams running to make a connecting flight. Stay tuned for more details.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 17, 2012, 09:32:11 PM
I found a tweet that had a team trying to cut into the standby line at Air New Zealand. In the next 2 to 3 hours, Air New Zealand has flights to Wellington, Christchurch, Sydney and Melbourne. I'm guessing Christchurch is very possible, just to show off the city after the earthquake.

Scheduled Departures (More)
Ident    Type    To    Depart    Arrive
 ANZ705    A320    Sydney (YSSY / SYD)                    04:20p NZDT    05:40p EST
 ANZ449    A320    Wellington Int'l (NZWN / WLG)    04:35p NZDT    05:15p NZDT
 ANZ451    A320    Wellington Int'l (NZWN / WLG)    05:10p NZDT    05:50p NZDT
 ANZ547    B733    Christchurch Int'l (NZCH / CHC)    05:10p NZDT    06:10p NZDT
 JST255    A320    Christchurch Int'l (NZCH / CHC)    05:30p NZDT    06:35p NZDT
 ANZ543    A320    Christchurch Int'l (NZCH / CHC)    05:40p NZDT    06:40p NZDT
 GTI7586    B744    Melbourne Tullamarine (YMML / MEL) 05:40p NZDT    07:15p EST
 ANZ709    A320    Sydney (YSSY / SYD)                    05:40p NZDT    06:38p EST
 ANZ721    A320    Melbourne Tullamarine (YMML / MEL) 05:40p NZDT    07:02p EST
 ANZ18    B763    Rarotonga Int'l (NCRG / RAR)           05:45p NZDT    10:20p CKT
 ANZ459    B733    Wellington Int'l (NZWN / WLG)    06:00p NZDT    06:20p NZDT
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 17, 2012, 09:32:35 PM
Most possible destinations as per last tweets have become:
Today Sunday Nov 18 in NZ
SYD Sydney   NZ 709   
Air New Zealand    5:30 PM    5:30 PM ~    T-I    Scheduled
  On-time    320   
MEL Melbourne   NZ 721   
Air New Zealand    5:30 PM    5:30 PM ~    T-I    Scheduled
  On-time    320   
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 17, 2012, 09:34:33 PM
I'm guessing Christchurch is very possible

I absolutely agree with you. Why should Phil let them fly past his home! :-)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on November 17, 2012, 09:34:40 PM
 FYI, just heard that Brisbane (Queensland) Australia is experiencing severe weather conditions currently (rain/floods).  Not sure if TAR22 will visit the Gold Coast or Austrailia at all, but this could affect the race.   :ascared   News at 11. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZBC Company on November 17, 2012, 09:35:02 PM
I found a tweet that had a team trying to cut into the standby line at Air New Zealand. In the next 2 to 3 hours, Air New Zealand has flights to Wellington, Christchurch, Sydney and Melbourne. I'm guessing Christchurch is very possible, just to show off the city after the earthquake.
I THINK CHIRSTCHURCH
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ovalorange on November 17, 2012, 09:41:20 PM
FYI, just heard that Brisbane (Queensland) Australia is experiencing severe weather conditions currently (rain/floods).  Not sure if TAR22 will visit the Gold Coast or Austrailia at all, but this could affect the race.   :ascared   News at 11. 

Yes, correct. If you take a look at these (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2012/11/17/14/08/reader-photos-of-wild-queensland-storm) photos, I'm sure you'll agree that IF Brisbane is planned then a change of plans may take place then.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 17, 2012, 09:49:04 PM
Flights from Air NZL

that will land in Christchurch:

620, 650, 750. 850, 945 pm local time
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 17, 2012, 09:59:48 PM
Last tweet mentioned CHC (Christchurch) All eyes on Chistchurch!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 17, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
From Christchurch there are flights into most major Australian cities which is expected to be the next country. So I think its likely a double leg in Australia as opposed to NZL
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 17, 2012, 10:02:20 PM
Are they doing a leg in Christchurch or going from Christchurch to somewhere else?

Anyone live in Christchurch or nearby?

So far The Alabama Mullet and the Blonde girls are confirmed safe.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 17, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Are they doing a leg in Christchurch or going from Christchurch to somewhere else?

Anyone live in Christchurch or nearby?

So far The Alabama Mullet and the Blonde girls are confirmed safe.

Very likely THEY WILL STAY in Christchurch as Auckland would have made much better connections to AUS at the time they ARE there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 17, 2012, 10:13:35 PM
These are the flight btwn Auckland and Christchurch for the rest of Today Sunday Nov 18 NZDT

JQ 255   
Jetstar Airways    3:05 PM    5:30 PM ~    T-D    4:30 PM    6:45 PM ~       Scheduled
  145 min    320   
NZ 539   
Air New Zealand    3:30 PM    3:42 PM    T-D    4:50 PM    5:05 PM ~       En Route
  15 min    733   
NZ 547     
Air New Zealand    5:00 PM    5:05 PM ~    T-D    6:20 PM    6:25 PM ~       Scheduled
733   
NZ 543   
Air New Zealand    5:30 PM    5:30 PM ~    T-D    6:50 PM    6:50 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    320   
NZ 557   
Air New Zealand    6:30 PM    6:40 PM ~    T-D    7:50 PM    8:00 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    733   
NZ 553   
Air New Zealand    7:30 PM    7:30 PM ~    T-D    8:50 PM    8:50 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    733   
NZ 551      Air New Zealand    8:25 PM    8:25 PM ~    T-D    9:45 PM    9:45 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    320   
NZ 559   
Air New Zealand    8:45 PM    8:45 PM ~    T-D    10:05 PM    10:05 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    320   
JQ 259   
Jetstar Airways    9:15 PM    9:15 PM ~    T-D    10:40 PM    10:40 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    320   
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2012, 10:31:58 PM
Of course PHIL would want a leg in his hometown, particularly to update the earthquake status. Hoping to see John!! :flirt:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: loseaguy on November 17, 2012, 10:44:26 PM
So according to the info so far, teams might be going to Australia for the next leg?
Hopefully it's Melb, then I have the chance to see them again!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 17, 2012, 10:52:38 PM
Leg 1: Bora Bora, Tahiti Nov. 14-15
Leg 2: Bora Bora, Tahiti Nov. 16
Leg 3: Christchurch, New Zealand Nov 18-19
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 17, 2012, 11:33:07 PM
RFF's own on the ground team will be here later to fill us all in!  :hearts:

In the meantime, thanks to KIWI
 
teams are on the 730 PM flight to Christchurch and will be heading to what sounds like a bungy jump location tonight.

And sadly: The father/son team has had an accident. The father has ruptured his achilles tendon and is in a moon boot. :'(


I love RFF with all my heart. I just want to thank everyone that helps to contribute to spoiling the season for us. Whether it be finding pictures, tweets, locations, etc.

Sorry to hear about the Father/Son team. Curious to see who is still in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 17, 2012, 11:34:04 PM
Since we do have a team on the ground I do assume we will likely get a list of teams arriving in order. Is it possible to hide the results under spoiler tags? Many of us do not like team placement spoilers.


Waiau Ferry Bridge - Bridge Jumping
Christchurch Pier - Vertical Bungee Rocket
Bridge Jumping - Mount Hutt ski field

Are possible bungee sites in Christchurch

http://traveltips.usatoday.com/bungee-jumping-christchurch-new-zealand-54994.html (http://traveltips.usatoday.com/bungee-jumping-christchurch-new-zealand-54994.html)

Another off the board observation Adelaide is the sister city of Chrstchurch and that might tie into why they are going to go there (if they end up going).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 17, 2012, 11:41:28 PM
Since we do have a team on the ground I do assume we will likely get a list of teams arriving in order. Is it possible to hide the results under spoiler tags? Many of us do not like team placement spoilers.


Waiau Ferry Bridge - Bridge Jumping
Christchurch Pier - Vertical Bungee Rocket
Bridge Jumping - Mount Hutt ski field

Are possible bungee sites in Christchurch

http://traveltips.usatoday.com/bungee-jumping-christchurch-new-zealand-54994.html (http://traveltips.usatoday.com/bungee-jumping-christchurch-new-zealand-54994.html)

Lol I am with you on this one.

When the race started I was curious to see who the teams were and if any were semi-famous or from other reality tv shows. Then i was curious to see where they were heading next. Now we have pictures of teams after a leg or 2 have gone by and I am curious as to if my pre-season fave teams are still in it. *crossing my fingers*

I am going to have to pry myself off of the website once i find out :P
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 17, 2012, 11:48:50 PM
Since we do have a team on the ground I do assume we will likely get a list of teams arriving in order. Is it possible to hide the results under spoiler tags? Many of us do not like team placement spoilers.

well this IS a spoiler forum....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2012, 11:49:45 PM
Since we do have a team on the ground I do assume we will likely get a list of teams arriving in order. Is it possible to hide the results under spoiler tags? Many of us do not like team placement spoilers.



No, in general not. This is a spoiler board, read at your own risk. However, this was an airport sighting...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 17, 2012, 11:53:39 PM
Since we do have a team on the ground I do assume we will likely get a list of teams arriving in order. Is it possible to hide the results under spoiler tags? Many of us do not like team placement spoilers.

well this IS a spoiler forum....

I guess you are right but there are many spoilers like identifying teams, location spoilers, task spoilers etc. Giving away the results in away takes away the interest of the race, but who am I too request such a thing.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2012, 11:56:37 PM
I'll be happy to discuss this with you privately, feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 17, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Leafsfan, my attitude about placement "spoilers" are that usually they're partial and not total, and even then, we rarely if ever know why it happened, so there's always some mystery to be answered until the leg airs.

Peach, which team are you referring to as the "father-son" team? I don't see it in the team spoiler thread or the timeline thread.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on November 18, 2012, 12:00:16 AM
Leafsfan, my attitude about placement "spoilers" are that usually they're partial and not total, and even then, we rarely if ever know why it happened, so there's always some mystery to be answered until the leg airs.

Peach, which team are you referring to as the "father-son" team? I don't see it in the team spoiler thread or the timeline thread.
I think Peach is talking about them?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Parisinspring/TAR22/IMG_0649a_zps027d614c.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 18, 2012, 12:05:57 AM

Too bad Phil and the teams just missed the opportunity to meet Prince Charles and Princess Camilla.. they're just there yesterday dancing with locals on the street of christchurch...  :groan:   :lol:


Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 18, 2012, 12:25:45 AM

a pure spec of one of the tasks could probably involved some of those "give back" to community thing, like help to build the city, renovate, donation, or else a sympathy letters or something  :)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 18, 2012, 12:29:13 AM
RFF's own on the ground team will be here later to fill us all in!  :hearts:

In the meantime, thanks to KIWI
 
teams are on the 730 PM flight to Christchurch and will be heading to (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Christchurch/th_TAR22ChCH.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Christchurch/TAR22ChCH.jpg) tonight.

And sadly: The father/son team has had an accident. The father has ruptured his achilles tendon and is in a moon boot. :'(

From this tweet, if true, they must have been in a much earlier flight than 7:30 PM:

Chris Doyle @doy
Asian couple and a camera guy just ran past me in the Christchurch airport... Amazing Race contestants?
11:38 PM - 17 Nov 12 MX
06:38 PM - 18 Nov 12 NZ

NZ 527   
Air New Zealand    1:00 PM    1:00 PM    T-D    2:20 PM    2:18 PM       Landed
  On-time    320   
NZ 521   
Air New Zealand    2:10 PM    2:09 PM    T-D    3:30 PM    3:30 PM       Landed
  On-time    733   
NZ 535   
Air New Zealand    2:45 PM    2:51 PM    T-D    4:05 PM    4:15 PM       Landed
  On-time    733   
JQ 255   
Jetstar Airways    3:05 PM    5:25 PM    T-D    4:30 PM    6:52 PM       Landed
  142 min    320   
NZ 539   
Air New Zealand    3:30 PM    3:42 PM    T-D    4:50 PM    5:07 PM       Landed
  17 min    733   
NZ 547   
Air New Zealand    5:00 PM    5:06 PM    T-D    6:20 PM    6:30 PM       Landed
  On-time    733   
NZ 543   
Air New Zealand    5:30 PM    5:38 PM    T-D    6:50 PM    7:01 PM       Landed
  On-time    320   
NZ 557   
Air New Zealand    6:30 PM    6:49 PM    T-D    7:50 PM    8:16 PM ~       En Route
  26 min    733   
NZ 553   
Air New Zealand    7:30 PM    7:30 PM ~    T-D    8:50 PM    8:50 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    733   
NZ 551      Air New Zealand    8:25 PM    8:25 PM ~    T-D    9:45 PM    9:45 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    320   
NZ 559   
Air New Zealand    8:45 PM    8:45 PM ~    T-D    10:05 PM    10:05 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    320   
JQ 259   
Jetstar Airways    9:15 PM    9:15 PM ~    T-D    10:40 PM    10:40 PM ~       Scheduled
  On-time    320   

Most likely they were on the 5pm flight. At least the team mentioned in the tweet.

It is Sun Nov 18 1:30am Atlanta & 7:30pm Christchurch.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2012, 12:33:15 AM
We'll get some clarification later. We know exactly when they arrived in Auckland, perhaps 730 refers to their arr time in CHC and not the dep time? Just wait... :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 18, 2012, 12:35:17 AM
Go for that info in CHC, Zouly!!! I hope that the next one "on the ground" is you in MEL! Good luck!

PS You just made Duchess Camilla a princess.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2012, 12:35:31 AM

Too bad Phil and the teams just missed the opportunity to meet Prince Charles and Princess Camilla.. they're just there yesterday dancing with locals on the street of christchurch...  :groan:   :lol:




Ahhh, but Phil could have easily been almost a day ahead of the teams? See Neobie's info in the transport thread, that's where flight info mostly goes.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: amazinglatinoamericafan on November 18, 2012, 12:38:48 AM
Mel ‏@shittmelsays
Just seen the amazing race arrive in chch. Exciting!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 18, 2012, 02:23:21 AM
instagram post:

@sophie_cocks the amazing race

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u513/supah3ro/ScreenShot2012-11-18at25940PM.png)

The people to the right of the cameras, left of the team and right of team are myself and family...hehe

That is such a weird yet awesome coincidence!  :lol: what an opportunity to get to see them! Can't wait for photos... if you have any  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 18, 2012, 02:34:16 AM
Oh I do, and videos. And a story to tell, and some reveals of team names. As well as Papa and Son having Papa in a moon boot, having ruptured his achilles tendon in Bora Bora and can hardly walk poor man, I spoke with him.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 18, 2012, 03:01:25 AM
Oh I do, and videos. And a story to tell, and some reveals of team names. As well as Papa and Son having Papa in a moon boot, having ruptured his achilles tendon in Bora Bora and can hardly walk poor man, I spoke with him.

That sounds SO cool! You're very lucky! I can't wait to hear all about it! I'll be on all night in case you decide to tell us more ;)

That sucks that PaPa has had a serious injury :'( I'm hoping his son will help him power through the race!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 18, 2012, 03:04:23 AM
Sadly, this seems unlikely, especially 'from what I was told'. Looks like they'll be jetsetting off soon :'(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARdevotee on November 18, 2012, 04:57:05 AM
Oh I do, and videos. And a story to tell, and some reveals of team names. As well as Papa and Son having Papa in a moon boot, having ruptured his achilles tendon in Bora Bora and can hardly walk poor man, I spoke with him.

You are so lucky! And thanks for all the great info! Since you got to see the teams up close and personal, did Winnie and Cam look like they could be Asian to you? Just curious since people can't seem to figure it out. And what about the F/F red team? Could they be Latinas?
I like to root for ethnic teams as they can be a rarity!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 18, 2012, 04:59:12 AM
What an awesome job, Kiwi Jay! And you are so lucky. Thank you so much for bringing the news. :hearts:

Feel sad about the Father/Son. Hope he'll be alright :(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 18, 2012, 05:04:49 AM
The red female team definitely do not look Latino. At all. Winnie and Cam do look asian without a doubt. May be born and raised in America (they sounded definite american) but look either Asian or Hawaiian at a FAR stretch, or maybe they were just a tad tanned from Tahiti :P
I told the Father 'best of luck' and he smiled and thanked me and said he would need it. The son looks sad but they are going to give it their best. Sadly I don't think his state will meet the standard, even though they seemed wonderful. In team alabama, I think we have a real hoot of a team and I know I will keep in contact with them. Other teams seem great fun, some a bit jumpy still. The blondes asked where gate 11 was as I said, and I said....um there isn't a gate 11. They laughed and ran off  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Polaroid on November 18, 2012, 05:35:01 AM
Awesome job, Kiwi! The poor father... :( Surprised that two (well, I guess three now) all-male teams have been eliminated right at the beginning.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on November 18, 2012, 06:59:57 AM
If it is true i think it is cool, we need stronger all-females teams in TAR!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jiajia12 on November 18, 2012, 08:33:09 AM
Yes,sorry papa but no more male alpha teams dominating the race :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on November 18, 2012, 08:43:19 AM
If it is true i think it is cool, we need stronger all-females teams in TAR!!!!

Agree with this!

Yes,sorry papa but no more male alpha teams dominating the race :yess:

Don't speak too fast :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZBC Company on November 18, 2012, 08:46:55 AM
peach i think we got wrong because swear so one of twins in in auckland photos or it was careman
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 18, 2012, 08:51:31 AM
Oh I do, and videos. And a story to tell, and some reveals of team names. As well as Papa and Son having Papa in a moon boot, having ruptured his achilles tendon in Bora Bora and can hardly walk poor man, I spoke with him.

The red female team definitely do not look Latino. At all. Winnie and Cam do look asian without a doubt. May be born and raised in America (they sounded definite american) but look either Asian or Hawaiian at a FAR stretch, or maybe they were just a tad tanned from Tahiti :P
I told the Father 'best of luck' and he smiled and thanked me and said he would need it. The son looks sad but they are going to give it their best. Sadly I don't think his state will meet the standard, even though they seemed wonderful. In team alabama, I think we have a real hoot of a team and I know I will keep in contact with them. Other teams seem great fun, some a bit jumpy still. The blondes asked where gate 11 was as I said, and I said....um there isn't a gate 11. They laughed and ran off  :lol3:

Yes,sorry papa but no more male alpha teams dominating the race :yess:

About this thing, I brought back something from the second indian leg of TAR20,

Talking about Vanessa's injury, in TARLA 3 one of the girls (Marisol, from Marisol & José) suffered an injury in one of his knees, and stayed in the race but she has to compete using a wheelchair, and that team could be in the race at least for 4 more legs before their elimination.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/Tarpast/3406524_0.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 18, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
Since teams arrived in Christchurch last night around local sundown, I believe there is a very good chance they were faced with an HoO. It's around sunrise in Christchurch now, so I suggest we should be watching for more sightings in the next 6 or 8 hours.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 18, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
Anyway, once in to the domestic terminal we saw teams getting flights, Chuck and Wynona on a phone and later we chatted to a few people and learnt:

- 2 legs in Bora Bora / Tahiti
- Got a blessing in Tahiti for good luck
- Swam with sharks
- Father hurt himself racing to pitstop in a cart?! May have run over foot?? Needs surgery (on his way out)...
- Christchurch Rakaia Gorge Bridge (overnight stop?)

and learnt of Chuck and Wynona McCall, age 46 and 49 from Alabama Can't say more, but I may be on the telly box...nuff said ;)

Oooooh and I read the clue: 'fly to phil's hometown of Christchurch, New Zealand. Once there, drive yourselves to Rakaia Gorge Bridge to recieve your next clue.. and saw the immense additional info :O

The Amazing Race shooting in Bora Bora~~
 
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Tahiti/22-BoroBoraviaweibo.jpg)
 
edited to embed. Hi reta! Thank you!

Swimming with sharks cluebox?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
We think Swimming w/ sharks would have been on the second leg...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2012, 06:50:39 PM
A news story fresh from the New Zealand media!

http://www.guardianonline.co.nz/news/latest-news/american-amazing-race-comes-to-town/ (http://www.guardianonline.co.nz/news/latest-news/american-amazing-race-comes-to-town/)

American Amazing Race comes to town

The Amazing Race has hit Mid Canterbury.


Teams in the American version of television’s million dollar race around the world were spotted near Methven this morning taking part in a rural themed challenge at Mount Hutt Station before heading to Terrace Downs.

It’s understood the teams arrived last night and may have camped at the Rakaia Gorge overnight before jet boating on the Rakaia River early this morning.

Teams were last seen driving north through Windwhistle.


There's a picture with the story, but it doesn't show too much. It's a car with the cameraman in the front passenger seat, the sound guy in the back seat and a man driving. You can't see the other teammate.

This agrees well with what we know since I believe KiwiJay said they were headed for the Rakaia Gorge Bridge. Rapppel or bungy to the campsite?

Oh boy!! :hearts: Gotta love NZ media!! Thanks PM!!

I think the bridge is too low for a rapel...there are vids of kids jumping off.

And N thru Windwhistle is on the way back to Christchurch....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on November 18, 2012, 06:57:34 PM
YAY Self-driving!  :hearts: Its been like forever since I have seen teams drive themselves.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 18, 2012, 07:01:35 PM
YAY Self-driving!  :hearts: Its been like forever since I have seen teams drive themselves.

Since Germany in TAR20 (at least until last leg of TAR21).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 18, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
If it's Melbourne, it's Zouly's turn! :hoot: :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: loseaguy on November 18, 2012, 07:30:05 PM
I've followed amazing race once in Taiwan. It was last year.
It was awesome to see Phil in person!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 18, 2012, 07:44:17 PM
Melbourne or Brisbane could also be connectors to other cities either in Australia or Asia/Pacific.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2012, 07:48:56 PM
???

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/southeast-mops-up-after-wild-weekend-weather-20121119-29kvh.html
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 18, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
Melbourne or Brisbane could also be connectors to other cities either in Australia or Asia/Pacific.

If this is the case, at least we can still catch the teams transferring to domestic terminals (for domestic flight), but not for international, as we need to have a valid ticket to enter beyond the checkpoint guards...

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 18, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
If the teams are headed back to the airport already, this must be a keep on racing leg with a zero time (or just a couple of hour) pit stop.

If Phil is there an hour ago to take a picture with the fan, then he's not getting any jump at all on the teams. Maybe it's just the production team at the airport now?

I'm puzzled.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 18, 2012, 08:15:33 PM

I'm puzzled.

me too..  :iok

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 18, 2012, 08:21:59 PM
I suppose they could be telling the teams to take one or two specific flights while Phil catches an earlier one.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on November 18, 2012, 08:24:05 PM
Could Phil be catching a flight but still have time and the other teams are waiting for the pitstart?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 18, 2012, 08:28:14 PM
Could Phil be catching a flight but still have time and the other teams are waiting for the pitstart?

Georgiapeach posted some pictures about 30 minutes ago of teams at an airport, so I'm thinking the teams are at the airport now. Phil was there in the last hour or two as well. That's what is so surprising.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2012, 08:28:50 PM
I added pics....:tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on November 19, 2012, 12:30:26 AM
Was not expecting the overnight stop, continued racing and an immediate flight to Australia!

I would have expected them to fly there tomorrow with Phil escaping today, what with it being late in the day and all...

There has to be a reason why they're arriving late in the afternoon? Perhaps a task designed for the evening? Perhaps a long drive out to... say... the Great Ocean Road?

(And maybe the New Zealand tasks were planned for the afternoon of the 18th but the delayed flight from Tahiti pushed everything to the next day... I think Phil would have wanted to catch the early morning direct flights straight to Australia!)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RichInSydney on November 19, 2012, 04:32:58 AM
From the ground crew:

Teams are traveling via Melbourne-PERTH onto BALI
Nooooo!  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: howie_2010 on November 19, 2012, 04:46:26 AM
From the ground crew:

Teams are traveling via Melbourne-PERTH onto BALI
Bali? What, did they suddenly discover Indonesia's existence in season 19 and think using it as a location in 3/4 seasons would be a good idea?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: docol on November 19, 2012, 05:58:24 AM
From the ground crew:

Teams are traveling via Melbourne-PERTH onto BALI
Nooooo!  (:;)

OH MY GOODDD...!!! Indonesia AGAIN???? C'mon CBS, i can't stand another leg there..... :groan:  :gaah: :stare (:;) :crazy:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Ray! on November 19, 2012, 06:03:10 AM
I should care that they're visiting Indonesia *yet again*, but who cares it's a new island and it's BALI <333

also, I think that with Bali now as an official destination, I think we'll be seeing another SEAsia leg next
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 19, 2012, 06:12:14 AM
If you are just bitchin'...please use that thread. This is for helpful spec.:lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on November 19, 2012, 06:36:16 AM
I have a feeling they will go to India next (Please note that it is just a feeling).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 19, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
I am thinking Bali is being visited for a particular reason. Possibly for the next leg being not well connected and Bali being the only one that connects there (and hasn't been visited yet). Idk just a theory.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 19, 2012, 10:15:04 AM
I am thinking Bali is being visited for a particular reason. Possibly for the next leg being not well connected and Bali being the only one that connects there (and hasn't been visited yet). Idk just a theory.
Yeah! Bali is quite a good hub to eastern part of Indonesia. Some remote Indonesian islands would be awesome! <33333 My guts said they're gonna spend one leg in Indonesia, though. Production teams know that RFF people would get angry if they spend another two legs in Indonesia :lol: Just kidding. It's pure speculation because we've already had four legs in Indonesia since Season 19.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on November 19, 2012, 10:31:03 AM
How about East Timor? Are there direct flights from Denpasar to Dili? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 19, 2012, 10:37:33 AM
Bali will be interesting. It is the predominately Hindi, non-Muslim part of Indonesia. It will be interesting to see the contrast with Java. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 19, 2012, 10:38:49 AM
How about East Timor? Are there direct flights from Denpasar to Dili? :duno:
Yes, there is direct flight to Dili. But Dili also has direct flight from Australia too. I don't know the schedule though
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 19, 2012, 10:39:32 AM
Bali will be interesting. It is the predominately Hindi, non-Muslim part of Indonesia. It will be interesting to see the contrast with Java.

Hindu**

=====
Dili only connects to Jakarta, Singapore and Darwin and Bali

Bali could have been done to contrast Java ruling out Jakarta. Darwin and Singapore have both had legs. Idk maybe
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 19, 2012, 12:01:38 PM
So was there time for a leg 4 in Melbourne or is it just a connector?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZBC Company on November 19, 2012, 12:02:04 PM
connectoin
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: EagleSpirit0 on November 19, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
Just as a note to where the race travels after Bali, Denpasar is a *hub* of Southeast Asian air traffic that outflanks the size of Bali; you can get nearly everywhere in Southeast Asia and most locations in East Asia from Bali with one or no stopovers.  However, the most highly dense routes from Denpasar are the obvious (Kuala Lumpar, Bangkok, Jakarta and Singapore). 

I would speculate that one or two legs in Southeast Asia would follow.  Given this route's novelty thus far (I mean, seriously, Bali/Southern New Zealand are two locations way over-due), I'm going to cross my fingers for Laos, despite the fact that I'm no longer an expat there.  \=  It's currently the tourist high season, but, it's also the most climate-amenable time to visit the country.  To get to Vientiane or Luang Prabang, it would only require a stop-over in Singapore, Hong Kong, Bangkok, KL, SaiGon, or HaNoi.  So I'll be watching RFF anxiously in the next few days!

There are routes off of Bali via ferry + rail + bus, but, given the production's preference for cutting down on transit time, it's not likely they'll pursue those routes.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on November 19, 2012, 01:42:40 PM
I would speculate that one or two legs in Southeast Asia would follow.  Given this route's novelty thus far (I mean, seriously, Bali/Southern New Zealand are two locations way over-due), I'm going to cross my fingers for Laos, despite the fact that I'm no longer an expat there.  \=  It's currently the tourist high season, but, it's also the most climate-amenable time to visit the country.  To get to Vientiane or Luang Prabang, it would only require a stop-over in Singapore, Hong Kong, Bangkok, KL, SaiGon, or HaNoi.  So I'll be watching RFF anxiously in the next few days!

Laos would be AMAZING! This season is already shaping up great, but Laos would put it over the top. It's like WRP read our wish lists :lol: jk
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 19, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
I've suggested this possibility pre-season, but if Bali is a good connection point for the following leg(s), Myanmar (Burma) is also a possible location (after all Obama was just there yesterday-today) and he's also been to Thailand and is in Cambodia now.

The fact that they've gone to two legendary places already (Tahiti and Bali, apparently) and a third in a area that stood in for Middle Earth, makes me wonder if more such locations are on the way. Nepal? Shangri La? Any others?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on November 19, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
The fact that they've gone to two legendary places already (Tahiti and Bali, apparently) and a third in a area that stood in for Middle Earth, makes me wonder if more such locations are on the way. Nepal? Shangri La? Any others?

El Dorado(Amazon/South America)? Atlantis(Greece/Mediterranian)? Camelot(UK)?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 19, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
I think this would be a great time to re-use the TAR 19 missing Laos leg (pure SPEC!) and Nov is a lovely time in NEPAL:

for Kathmandu in November
November happens to be the best month for visiting Kathmandu.


The weather and visibility during this month is just perfect for trekking and outdoor activities.

The average daytime temperatures are around 15°C (about 59°F) and it is just the perfect temperature to enjoy hikes and walks around the town without getting sweaty or uncomfortable in the excessive heat that can be experienced at other times of the year.


The chances of rain in November are next to none.


The atmosphere and the environment is also at its best during this period. The whole valley is green and lush due to all the monsoon rain.


Kathmandu in November also receives sunshine for 8 to 9 hours a day.


http://www.holiday-weather.com/kathmandu/averages/november/

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 19, 2012, 04:39:34 PM
I've suggested this possibility pre-season, but if Bali is a good connection point for the following leg(s), Myanmar (Burma) is also a possible location (after all Obama was just there yesterday-today) and he's also been to Thailand and is in Cambodia now.

The fact that they've gone to two legendary places already (Tahiti and Bali, apparently) and a third in a area that stood in for Middle Earth, makes me wonder if more such locations are on the way. Nepal? Shangri La? Any others?

Shangri La? The Hotel Chain?? Or do you mean Sri Lanka.

I had a dream about Laos being visited yesterday LOL
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on November 19, 2012, 04:53:42 PM
They tried very hard to pass off Kunming as Tibet the last time they went! The Tibetan costumes, the "Tibetan" prayer wheel...

Which probably means they want to go but face too many logistical problems...

("Shangri-la" is on the way up to Tibet from Kunming. It's a devious marketing ploy.)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 19, 2012, 05:48:24 PM
This is just soo in coincidence ...

Today, the 20th of November is the anniversary of Puputan Margarana in Bali,

Commemorating the death of Bali's hero Ngurah Rai, which now (and since then) became the official name of Bali's capital International airport in Denpasar (DPS, Ngurah Rai International Airport)

Puputan Margarana is part of Bali's important history that shaped the society, and could be an interesting research ground for the production WRP team if they really chase their schedule to not miss this...

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From Wikipedia:

Dutch seizure of Bali island
Dutch colonial control expanded across the Indonesian archipelago in the nineteenth century, to become the Dutch East Indies. In Bali, the Dutch used the pretext of eradicating opium smuggling, arms running, plunder of shipwrecks, and slavery to impose their control on Balinese kingdoms....
read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bali#Northern_Bali_campaigns_.281846-49.29

Puputan
Puputan is a Balinese term that refers to a mass ritual suicide[1] in preference to facing the humiliation of surrender. Notable puputans occurred in 1906 and 1908 when the Balinese were being subjugated by the Dutch...
read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puputan


and what an interesting finding that I found a picture posted this morning (9.19AM AEST - so that probably 6.10AM WITA), during the sunrise where I see some tents have / being set up like there's gonna be something / an event up for today around noon / evening time..  :yess:


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(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/Bali-5.jpg)
@priscillaruth
@museum Bajra Sandhi #morning #field #beautiful #view #sunrise #bali #photooftheday #instagood #instalike


to make it clear (and really hope it's true, eventhough I just speculate this :P )

this is how the place looks like during the daylight:

From the front view :

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/Bali-1.jpg)


From the backyard view :

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/Bali-2.jpg)



or you can check out the surrounding of the monument, which I think could be just a perfect place for Fast Forward ;)


(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/Bali-3.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/TAR%20Live%20Sightings/Bali-4.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 19, 2012, 06:00:35 PM
Just pointing out, the asian girls (Winnie and Cam?) are wearing jandals at Tullamarine from the looks of it. Seems weird, but thought I'd point it out.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 19, 2012, 06:08:02 PM
I've suggested this possibility pre-season, but if Bali is a good connection point for the following leg(s), Myanmar (Burma) is also a possible location (after all Obama was just there yesterday-today) and he's also been to Thailand and is in Cambodia now.

The fact that they've gone to two legendary places already (Tahiti and Bali, apparently) and a third in a area that stood in for Middle Earth, makes me wonder if more such locations are on the way. Nepal? Shangri La? Any others?

Shangri La? The Hotel Chain?? Or do you mean Sri Lanka.

I had a dream about Laos being visited yesterday LOL

Shangri-La is the name of a fictional utopian lamasery high in the mountains of Tibet, depicted in the 1933 novel and 1937 film Lost Horizon (directed by Frank Capra.)

Like I said, the inclusion of both Bora Bora (Tahiti) and Bali as three of the first four legs makes me think something more is coming.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on November 19, 2012, 06:52:52 PM
I think this would be a great time to re-use the TAR 19 missing Laos leg (pure SPEC!) and Nov is a lovely time in NEPAL:

Or Bhutan.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Coutzy on November 19, 2012, 06:54:23 PM
Just pointing out, the asian girls (Winnie and Cam?) are wearing jandals at Tullamarine from the looks of it. Seems weird, but thought I'd point it out.

Their shoes were wet, and they were worried about them drying in time. Cam(?) kept slapping the insoles against things to try and get them dry.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 19, 2012, 07:07:09 PM
I wouldn't rule out a visit to Bajra Sandhi, but I just found this tweet:

Lidya Julianty ‏@LidyaSuwita

Gerakan Kemanusiaan dan Perdamaian di Monumen Bajra Sandhi Renon, hari selasa 20 Nov 2012 jam 4 sore. Datang & jadilah bagian sejarah Ind. |
12 hours ago


Google Translation:

Humanitarian and Peace Movement in Monument
Bajra
Sandhi
Renon, Tuesday November 20, 2012 at 4 pm. Come and be a part of history Ind.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on November 19, 2012, 07:26:08 PM
From the ground crew:

Teams are traveling via Melbourne-PERTH onto BALI
Nooooo!  (:;)

OH MY GOODDD...!!! Indonesia AGAIN???? C'mon CBS, i can't stand another leg there..... :groan:  :gaah: :stare (:;) :crazy:
Well, at least Indonesia is safe right now and hopefully no terror attacks just like what happened on that place ten years ago. :res:

p.s.
I WANT PHILIPPINES AFTER BALI!!! :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 19, 2012, 07:55:56 PM

Three teams already out the airport but our on the ground team lose their track..  :groan:

Hopefully they'll be able to recover soon..

Who were these 3 teams? Are they in the top 3 spots?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 19, 2012, 07:58:45 PM

Three teams already out the airport but our on the ground team lose their track..  :groan:

Hopefully they'll be able to recover soon..

Who were these 3 teams? Are they in the top 3 spots?

They're the first three out to the car/taxi, but I can't revealed them yet, not untill all teams check in with Phil, just wait okay  ;)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 19, 2012, 07:59:46 PM
I dont mind waiting at all!!

Thanks Zouly!<3
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 19, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
That's the way to do it Zouly, great detecting! So I'm assuming they are exiting Bali-Denpasar Airport right now?  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 19, 2012, 08:15:48 PM
I'm sensing "third time's the charm" (Mallory's law :tup:) for Indonesia. All I'm hoping is after Bali, the teams are flying immediately to another country. Since Bali is near mid-race point, I'm speculating there will be another Double U-Turn board hidden there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 19, 2012, 08:31:21 PM
I think this would be a great time to re-use the TAR 19 missing Laos leg (pure SPEC!) and Nov is a lovely time in NEPAL:

for Kathmandu in November
November happens to be the best month for visiting Kathmandu.


The weather and visibility during this month is just perfect for trekking and outdoor activities.

The average daytime temperatures are around 15°C (about 59°F) and it is just the perfect temperature to enjoy hikes and walks around the town without getting sweaty or uncomfortable in the excessive heat that can be experienced at other times of the year.


The chances of rain in November are next to none.


The atmosphere and the environment is also at its best during this period. The whole valley is green and lush due to all the monsoon rain.


Kathmandu in November also receives sunshine for 8 to 9 hours a day.


http://www.holiday-weather.com/kathmandu/averages/november/
A hint! A hint! :lol:

Laos and Nepal will be awesome, but I speculate they're going to either Philippines or Sri Lanka after Indonesia. I think Sri Lanka is more likely since Philippines would be too obvious (with Phil tweeted they're gonna try to make legs there). I guess Philippines will be saved for the next season :duno: They have visited three island countries already for this season, so it must be kind of pattern what we'll see next. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 19, 2012, 08:38:14 PM
See the words PURE SPEC?? This is just kinda my own "wish list" !! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 19, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
A hint! A hint! :lol:

Laos and Nepal will be awesome, but I speculate they're going to either Philippines or Sri Lanka after Indonesia. I think Sri Lanka is more likely since Philippines would be too obvious (with Phil tweeted they're gonna try to make legs there). I guess Philippines will be saved for the next season :duno: They have visited three island countries already for this season, so it must be kind of pattern what we'll see next. :duno:

Philippines is unlikely after Bali as they would be going backwards.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on November 19, 2012, 09:36:19 PM
what else is going on at Bali beaches??
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/***-drugs-cheap-beer-and-ignorance-schoolies-completely-lose-it-in-bali/story-e6frfq80-1226519103268
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 19, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
They might be doing a water based theme this season. Sri Lanka Maldives are the two that would fit that criteria in South Asia.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tarflyonthewall on November 19, 2012, 09:43:35 PM
I think this would be a great time to re-use the TAR 19 missing Laos leg (pure SPEC!) and Nov is a lovely time in NEPAL:

Or Bhutan.

Government restrictions on tourist travel would make Bhutan impossible.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dryedmangoez on November 19, 2012, 11:38:24 PM
I thought Sri Lanka would be a big possibility after Natalie & Nadiya. Hehe. Nepal and Bhutan are definitely on my wish list.
I guess the Philippines will be saved for TAR23 and if they run in May-June, they shouldn't run into too much bad weather.

I remember someone suggest they could be staying in the Southern Hemisphere which would be interesting. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 20, 2012, 01:17:05 AM
I remember someone suggest they could be staying in the Southern Hemisphere which would be interesting. 
That was me, although Bali may mean they're staying south of the Tropic of Cancer, rather than the Equator, And I would have expected a leg or two more between New Zealand and Australia if this was to be a all southern hemisphere route. The idea of getting to a lot of legendary places, though, is appealing, and I never would have expected Bali and Bora Bora/Tahiti on the same race, so who knows for sure what Bert and Elise have up their sleeves.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Ray! on November 20, 2012, 03:28:15 AM
so if the tweets page is right and we're getting Ubud Monkey Forest/Uluwatu Beach, omglol if they end up copying TARA1's Bali leg
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 20, 2012, 03:29:40 AM
so if the tweets page is right and we're getting Ubud Monkey Forest/Uluwatu Beach, omglol if they end up copying TARA1's Bali leg

close  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on November 20, 2012, 08:48:09 AM
I have a feeling that after Indonesia, the route will be more urban to balance out the route (until they go to South America if they do go there).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 20, 2012, 11:12:29 AM
And I think a Southern Hemisphere route could take teams directly from Bali to Africa and on to South America. This would skip mainland Asia and Europe entirely. That would be something completely different and, for me, quite welcome.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2012, 12:11:22 PM
And I think a Southern Hemisphere route could take teams directly from Bali to Africa and on to South America. This would skip mainland Asia and Europe entirely. That would be something completely different and, for me, quite welcome.

I like to see South Africa again maybe Cape Town, Port Elizabeth, East London, The Garden Route, Durban, Bloemfontein, Northern Cape Provicne, or around the Johannesburg surrouding area.  I hope we also get a new African country like either Lesotho, Swaziland, Comoros, Zimbabwe, or Angola.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 20, 2012, 12:55:18 PM
And I think a Southern Hemisphere route could take teams directly from Bali to Africa and on to South America. This would skip mainland Asia and Europe entirely. That would be something completely different and, for me, quite welcome.

I like to see South Africa again maybe Cape Town, Port Elizabeth, East London, The Garden Route, Durban, Bloemfontein, Northern Cape Provicne, or around the Johannesburg surrouding area.  I hope we also get a new African country like either Lesotho, Swaziland, Comoros, Zimbabwe, or Angola.

Maybe Madagascar again. Only one visit in TAR10.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 20, 2012, 01:10:01 PM
From Twitter:

At uluwatu beach shooting for "Amazing Race" show !! Yewww !!

 7:28 pm - 19 nov 12


Looks like surf's up!  :wohoo:
 
Surfing task or just footage?? Hmmmm.
 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 20, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
From Twitter:

At uluwatu beach shooting for "Amazing Race" show !! Yewww !!

 7:28 pm - 19 nov 12



Looks like surf's up!  :wohoo:
 
Surfing task or just footage?? Hmmmm.

Well, I did some YTube research and I found this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJTdKTVmpE

In fact, when you search "Uluwatu Beach" there's a lot of vids about surfing.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 20, 2012, 06:53:59 PM
I don't see how they will be able to do surfing stunts while filming on some speedboat. :duno: Maybe they will go the disappointing way like the "bull racing" by sanding and smoothing out surfboards/boogieboards.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on November 20, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
Yesterday was terrible day, but FUN. i got some pictures and i saw almost all teams, especially at the Road Block (Uluwatu Beach).  i gave the photos to  ZouLy and he will tell everything to you guys.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 20, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
Yesterday was terrible day, but FUN. i got some pictures and i saw almost all teams, especially at the Road Block (Uluwatu Beach).  i gave the photos to  ZouLy and he will tell everything to you guys.

Thank you for all your hard work!

Welcome to RFF!

 :bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Polaroid on November 20, 2012, 08:17:51 PM
Yesterday was terrible day, but FUN. i got some pictures and i saw almost all teams, especially at the Road Block (Uluwatu Beach).  i gave the photos to  ZouLy and he will tell everything to you guys.

Awesome job! :wohoo: Welcome to RFF!

So happy that the father/son are still in it. :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 20, 2012, 08:24:26 PM
Great, great job, nyoman! Welcome here with a job well done like the best of bests!

:party: :gj:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 20, 2012, 08:26:10 PM
So spotted in Indonesia are:

1) Winnie and Cam
2) Utah Father / Son
3) Purple M/F wearing pink @ LAX
4) Joey and Meghan
---------------------------
Not yet spotted:
5) Chuck and Wynona
6) Blondes F/F
7) Brunettes F/F
8) Anthony and Jonathan / Bates
9) Indie young M/F - Walter / John and Jennifer?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 20, 2012, 08:58:52 PM
Looks like the next leg is starting...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dryedmangoez on November 20, 2012, 09:22:20 PM
I wonder if they had any legs planned in the Middle East and now have to change.  Or I think before, they had to change a destination because a possible route had them flying near a conflict and they wanted to avoid it?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 20, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
I wonder if they had any legs planned in the Middle East and now have to change.  Or I think before, they had to change a destination because a possible route had them flying near a conflict and they wanted to avoid it?

I think as west asia as India~surrounding etc then fly into Southern Africa like Joburg/Namibia/Kenya etc if its that much of an issue.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 20, 2012, 09:46:40 PM
Won't clog up the live sightings thread...

BUT GOOD JOB ZOULY & ND!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 20, 2012, 10:15:00 PM
Yesterday was terrible day, but FUN. i got some pictures and i saw almost all teams, especially at the Road Block (Uluwatu Beach).  i gave the photos to  ZouLy and he will tell everything to you guys.

Oh WOW!! Just read the whole story and we OWE you big time!! You did an incredible job!! :tu for everything...and all this after working nights!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 20, 2012, 10:39:12 PM
Yesterday was terrible day, but FUN. i got some pictures and i saw almost all teams, especially at the Road Block (Uluwatu Beach).  i gave the photos to  ZouLy and he will tell everything to you guys.

Nice work, nyoman! Love and appreciate the work you put into searching the Indonesian leg. :luvya: Thanks! It seems like Indonesia is summed up. :ya3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 20, 2012, 10:54:29 PM
The reports were excellent given the locations and difficulties, good job!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 21, 2012, 12:35:21 AM
Upcoming foreign destinations for flights out of Jakarta in order:

1) Riyadh
5) Jeddah
6) Bandar Seri Begawan
9) Colombo

2378 are Singapore and Bangkok which can be connected through Bali meaning no flight to Jakarta is necessary.

The first three are rather unlikely to be visited.


Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 21, 2012, 12:38:09 AM
From the last tweet from Jakarta Airport, the most plausible destinations and/or connecting points happen to be Bangkok and Singapore with Colombo coming in a far third place. The other three international destinations within a logical timeline are almost unlikely: Taiwan, Brunei and Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 21, 2012, 12:44:42 AM
Upcoming foreign destinations for flights out of Jakarta in order:

1) Riyadh
5) Jeddah
6) Bandar Seri Begawan
9) Colombo

2378 are Singapore and Bangkok which can be connected through Bali meaning no flight to Jakarta is necessary.

The first three are rather unlikely to be visited.

I'd go for the westbound one: Sri Lanka!

I wouldn't expect women in shorts racing through Saudi Arabia. Brunei is possible as it is just straight north from Bali, but I still say they'll go west.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 21, 2012, 12:46:46 AM
Upcoming foreign destinations for flights out of Jakarta in order:

1) Riyadh
5) Jeddah
6) Bandar Seri Begawan
9) Colombo

2378 are Singapore and Bangkok which can be connected through Bali meaning no flight to Jakarta is necessary.

The first three are rather unlikely to be visited.

I'd go for the westbound one: Sri Lanka!

I wouldn't expect women in shorts racing through Saudi Arabia. Brunei is possible as it is just straight north from Bali, but I still say they'll go west.

Brunei is almost impossible to visit with all the red tape.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 21, 2012, 01:02:56 AM
Every time the race has visited Vietnam it has been a double leg
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: chal_uf on November 21, 2012, 01:04:26 AM
i mentioned the guys Irwan Fauzi @irwan_fly on twitter who posted this tweet

"Terhenyak adlh ketika serombongan team "Amazing Race" go show ke counter sambil bawa kamera yg menyala :) *colek @febrianirinni #WorldRace"

He said the team going to Vietnam using connecting flight maybe "air asia"..
And according air asia website Connection possibe via bangkok or kuala lumpur

  :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 21, 2012, 01:06:19 AM
Every time the race has visited Vietnam it has been a double leg

I think Vietnam is 1 leg this time in one of the big cities to do a really quick leg, and then off to south asia for 2 big legs :) There's no way they're skipping South Asia  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 21, 2012, 01:08:16 AM
Every time the race has visited Vietnam it has been a double leg

I think Vietnam is 1 leg this time in one of the big cities to do a really quick leg, and then off to south asia for 2 big legs :) There's no way they're skipping South Asia  :lol:

4 legs in 2 seasons. + Last time Asia-Pacific had at least 5 legs South Asia was skipped and it was straight to Malawi
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: chal_uf on November 21, 2012, 01:09:25 AM
From the last tweet from Jakarta Airport, the most plausible destinations and/or connecting points happen to be Bangkok and Singapore with Colombo coming in a far third place. The other three international destinations within a logical timeline are almost unlikely: Taiwan, Brunei and Saudi Arabia.

No,,, he said he saw in Ngurah Rai and said its because eror connection in his uber so the location is wrong.. And the team going to vietnam via Ngurah Rai
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 21, 2012, 01:15:41 AM
From the last tweet from Jakarta Airport, the most plausible destinations and/or connecting points happen to be Bangkok and Singapore with Colombo coming in a far third place. The other three international destinations within a logical timeline are almost unlikely: Taiwan, Brunei and Saudi Arabia.

No,,, he said he saw in Ngurah Rai and said its because eror connection in his uber so the location is wrong.. And the team going to vietnam via Ngurah Rai

Thank you very much for your translation and interpreting. So it is Denpasar-Vietnam. Any idea if it s Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh or somewhere else?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: chal_uf on November 21, 2012, 01:49:32 AM
Thank you very much for your translation and interpreting. So it is Denpasar-Vietnam. Any idea if it s Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh or somewhere else?

i don't know yet. but my speculation they go to Ho Chi Minh. Because they using Air Asia from Ngurah Rai, possible connection is KL or Bangkok going to Hanoi/Ho Chi Minh/Da Nang. And then i check flight status there are 3 flight from kuala lumpur using air asia to Ho Chi Minh and 1 flight from bangkok this afternoon until midnight. But None air asia flight from bangkok and KL today in Hanoi airport.. So i assuming they go to Ho Chi Min. *pure speculation*

But it will be different story if they change airlines in KL or Bangkok. They can go to other city
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on November 21, 2012, 02:12:52 AM
Since we're going to Vietnam, I hope we can see the switchback to infamous Detour: Basket Boats or Basket Bikes where Flo brokedown.

Flo! <333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 21, 2012, 02:40:03 AM
Chal_uf,

Do you mean Air Asia (AK) or Indonesia Air Asia (QZ)?

AK is not flying DPS to BKK on 11/21/12.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on November 21, 2012, 02:45:15 AM
Important question: when were the teams seen?

If they made it on a 9.10am flight to Singapore they can make it to Vietnam before sunset. If not they'd be arriving in the dark!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 21, 2012, 02:46:23 AM
Just tip-toeing over to the neighbour TAR International board, we've got our amazing member anhgau2007 who's always updating the TAR Vietnam discussion thread, hopefully our Vietnamese leg could be detected with his/her help and his friends  :hrt:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 21, 2012, 02:51:00 AM
There is an Air Asia AK 1363 that left DPS at 1:55 pm/2:22 pm and arrived/arriving KUL 4:50 pm/5:17 pm
From that
AK 1454 leaves KUL at 6:50 pm and arrives SGN at 7:45 pm
From that
VJC 8386 leaves SGN at 8:45 pm and arrives DAD at 9:55 pm

DAD is Da Nang, home of the Nam O Bridge where there seems to be, imminently, the switchback for Basket Boat or Basket Bike.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: chal_uf on November 21, 2012, 02:57:05 AM
Chal_uf,

Do you mean Air Asia (AK) or Indonesia Air Asia (QZ)?

AK is not flying DPS to BKK on 11/21/12.
Hahah I don't know those two is different. But I'm pretty sure thats is Air Asia (AK).. So they just connecting Via kuala lumpur

Important question: when were the teams seen?

If they made it on a 9.10am flight to Singapore they can make it to Vietnam before sunset. If not they'd be arriving in the dark!

That guys tweeted about 4 hr ago in WITA (+8 GMT) time.. So its around 12.00 - 13.00 WITA (+8 GMT) / 12.00 pm/01.00 pm
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2012, 07:52:02 PM
HANOI!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 21, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
So the route so far looks like:

Leg 1: USA (Los Angeles) - French Polynesia (Bora Bora)
Leg 2: French Polynesia (Bora Bora)
Leg 3: French Polynesia - New Zealand (Christchurch)
Leg 4: New Zealand - Indonesia (Bali)
Leg 5: Indonesia - Vietnam (Hanoi)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 21, 2012, 08:04:08 PM
The picture looks to me like teams are waiting for a travel agency to open ?

Leg 6 start?

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28045.0;attach=218422;image)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 21, 2012, 08:08:48 PM

They must be barely arrived?  :duno:

Maybe need a tranposrt to go somewhere else in Hanoi? Like Ha Long Bay?
-just my 50cents- :js:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 21, 2012, 08:13:29 PM
http://instagram.com/p/SUCJqvtgQd/

Alykhan Velji ‏@AlyVelji
The Amazing Race is filming in #Hanoi today!!! One of our fave shows and we caught them filming today! http://instagr.am/p/SUCJqvtgQd/

Teams in the top half of the photo:

1. Team Alabama
2. Team 'Not Asian'
3. Team Blondies (the blue backpacks behind our red F/F team belong to the blondes)
4. Team Red F/F (notice the names and number on their tops, obviously cast because of a specific sporting background - roller derby anyone?)
5. Team 'Florida' (don't know who they are so just calling them the speculated Team Florida right now)

6. A pair of blue/grey backpacks next to Team 'Not Asian'. They could be crew backpacks, but they also look identical to the Hockey Brothers' backpacks.

This raises the question if Bali was an elimination and who was eliminated, as our sighter claims either Team Florida or Team Hockey was eliminated, but both seem to appear in the photo..

 :duno:

In the BOTTOM half of the photo, it appears to be filming crew, as we have all our teams accounted for. Except the man in red on the far right could possibly be one of the hockey brothers.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 21, 2012, 08:21:56 PM

They must be barely arrived?  :duno:

Maybe need a tranposrt to go somewhere else in Hanoi? Like Ha Long Bay?
-just my 50cents- :js:

Me and time LOL

Thanks for the heads up.

What strikes me as being odd is why are teams waiting at an hotel? Wouldn't a hotel be opened 24hrs a day?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 21, 2012, 08:34:23 PM

Confirming is still in progress for the spotted florida and hockey teams, please give us several hours as our Bali's team are mostly at work and school this time around, :)



What strikes me as being odd is why are teams waiting at an hotel? Wouldn't a hotel be opened 24hrs a day?

I would spec that they're getting ready for the clue to be given/taken at some point nearby,

Can we have the time of that instagram posted? Local Hanoi time GMT +7 i guess,..

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ovalorange on November 21, 2012, 08:36:33 PM
I think these are the stairs teams are sitting on... It's labeled "NHÀ HÁT CÔNG NHÂN TRÊN PHỐ TRÀNG TIỀN" though that doesn't produce anything for me on google maps?

https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/71285092
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 21, 2012, 08:43:37 PM
Oval, the Google translation for this "NHÀ HÁT CÔNG NHÂN TRÊN PHỐ TRÀNG TIỀN", is:

"WORKER Theatre on Trang Tien Street"

Maybe this can help.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2012, 08:46:46 PM
Trust me the cap, red shirt and blue shoes are definitely from Bates, our hockey player, and those backpacks blue/grey - are the hockey players. I know its him/theirs. So someone else was eliminated in Indonesia.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ovalorange on November 21, 2012, 08:48:01 PM
Oval, the Google translation for this is:

"WORKER Theatre on Trang Tien Street"

Maybe this can help.

Yes, that looks like it! Thanks! Lots of google images for it at "Rạp Công Nhân"! :tup:

(http://i.imgur.com/gr7ry.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Charlie90 on November 21, 2012, 08:58:02 PM
So those are the teams that are still racing, huh? You know, it would be kinda cool if the F3 is made up of only the female teams.
That would be something different, and also is it to much to ask for a night time finish line?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 21, 2012, 09:04:51 PM
So the teams waiting on the stairs of the theatre could mean an HoO. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 21, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
Meghan and Joey, Father and Son, Unidentified blonde M/F aren't pictured . I wonder if any of them were eliminated :(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Slowhatch on November 21, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
Maybe they were just crossing the street to get some ice cream (http://migrationology.com/2010/10/hanois-ice-cream-motorbike-drive-in/).  :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on November 21, 2012, 09:26:01 PM
The hockey team is not 100% confirmed to be there. Let's wait, the rest of the teams will arrive soon (hopefuly).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 21, 2012, 10:55:57 PM
Maybe they were just crossing the street to get some ice cream (http://migrationology.com/2010/10/hanois-ice-cream-motorbike-drive-in/).  :)

I'd buy this!  Both the ice cream and the idea!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 21, 2012, 11:43:36 PM

Just get an answer few minutes ago after I sent text message to ND in Bali,

He's saying that he is very certain 90% sure that up until 6.00PM (1hour before the race officially over) there's only two more people left doing the roadblock, and that is the short-hair guy from the hockey players team, and the female blonde (not to blonde but with a bit of dark-chocolate mix blonde) and when he look at Dom's thumbnail pictures of all teams, he's pretty sure that the female is one of the florida team.

He also saying to me that if according to a logical theory, it is very rare in the very early of the game, LEG 3 and LEG 4 will be the Non-Elimination LEG back-to-back after one another, so he's again truly believe that LEG-4 is an elimination leg.

among those two roadblocker described above, the most struggling ones is the short-hair guy from the hockey players team, because when the female blonde disappear, he can still saw the guy going up and down the stairs carrying the surf board..

So, i leave it up to you guys, if there's any experts out there for this analysis, maybe put some previous season experience, etc..etc..

That's all I received from him,  :tup:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2012, 11:55:30 PM
I can tell you with 100% certainty, that the guy in Hanoi, with the blue shoes, red shirt and cap is Jonathan from the Hockey Players. And Florida were spotted also so both are still in the game. Therefore, with 9 teams spotted in Bali, and 6 spotted in Hanoi, and a non-elimination in Christchurch, it means either the Father / Son, Young Unspotted Couple or Joey and Meghan were eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 22, 2012, 12:05:58 AM
I believe the green bags in the group picture on the steps belong to Joey and Meghan. Can anyone else confirm?

Maybe a team got a penalty and was unable to checkin?

Or the unidentified  m/f couple was mixed up with the florida purple couple
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 22, 2012, 12:06:53 AM
I believe the green bags in the group picture on the steps belong to Joey and Meghan. Can anyone else confirm?

False. They belong to Team Alabama
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 22, 2012, 12:07:22 AM
They have done two NELs back to back (first one was TAR 3, TAR 5, TAR 8, TAR 11, however, these were all during the era when the Race normally had 13 legs/segments. Since the total number of legs was reduced for filming TAR 13 and later, there has not been a case where there were two consecutive NELs.

However, there's nothing preventing that from being planned as an unexpected curveball to throw at the teams as it has been more than 10 seasons since it has been used. In other words, we can't rule it out, either as two consecutive NELs or as a double leg, or a paired just keep running leg.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 22, 2012, 12:08:29 AM
I believe the green bags in the group picture on the steps belong to Joey and Meghan. Can anyone else confirm?

False. They belong to Team Alabama

Oh I'm sorry. I didn't see a pic with alabamas bags so I wasn't able to conpare
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2012, 12:09:25 AM
On a second look, Chuck and Wynona's bags are behind the other two green bags closer to Winnie and Cam. Wynona has a khaki pack and Chuck has a green one similar to the Video Bloggers. There are four packs there, and the others do look similar to Joey and Meghan, but couldn't say for sure...and yes of course that could be another idea theschnauzers  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 22, 2012, 01:34:19 AM

After seeing this picture :


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Auckland/kiwi/2012-11-18_045504.jpg)


I am pretty sure that ND has mixed up between them and the Florida team... :o


because he said like this :

the one who struggling at the end was wearing a shirtless blue tank-top (well sometimes green could become blue for some reason).. and the girl was blonde (but not so blonde, it was dark-chocolate mixed blonde)

THIS IS IT..!!   :hoot:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 22, 2012, 02:29:55 AM
Next leg could be Nepal? (Spec!)

Hanoi > Guangzhou (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=281162375&airline=VN&flightNumber=506&departureDate=2012-11-23) Vietnam Airlines 506 DEP 12:50PM ARR 3:25PM
Guangzhou > Kathmandu (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=281143534&airline=CZ&flightNumber=3067&departureDate=2012-11-23) China Southern 3067 DEP 7:10PM ARR 10:10PM

Idk if they would visit Nepal, but as others said Myanmar could also be visited, or pretty much anywhere in Asia :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on November 22, 2012, 04:24:21 AM

After seeing this picture :


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Auckland/kiwi/2012-11-18_045504.jpg)


I am pretty sure that ND has mixed up between them and the Florida team... :o


because he said like this :

the one who struggling at the end was wearing a shirtless blue tank-top (well sometimes green could become blue for some reason).. and the girl was blonde (but not so blonde, it was dark-chocolate mixed blonde)

THIS IS IT..!!   :hoot:

you probably right about the shirt colour ZouLy. It was 6 PM. almost dark at that time. But Michael and me agree that the last man we saw at the road block has short blonde hair
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Ikurriña on November 22, 2012, 09:58:10 AM
the numbers in shirts of brunettes could mean something?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Amazingracer on November 22, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
When can we anticipate the next leg starting?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: selkie on November 22, 2012, 11:40:39 PM
Wasn't Father of Father/Son in an airport wheelchair at one point? Could have been a withdrawl for medical reasons.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 22, 2012, 11:49:22 PM
Wasn't Father of Father/Son in an airport wheelchair at one point? Could have been a withdrawl for medical reasons.

Nope, they still racing up until Leg-4 as far as I'm concern :)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on November 23, 2012, 01:27:30 AM
Could there have been a penalty elimination in Bali?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TSPKM on November 23, 2012, 09:29:31 AM
So who is still left?

Alabama
Blondes
Brunettes
Not Asian
Hockey players

And which team Tan guy/blonde or the unidentified blonde team?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 23, 2012, 03:40:43 PM
Tan guy and blonde/team purple, father and son and Joey and Meghan are still in, and apparently the 'unidentified' team may have been booted in Bali
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 24, 2012, 12:44:06 AM

2 Teams spotted in HongKong airport,!!

I'm quite sure they're gonna connect somewhere else pretty quick.. And hongkong is just a gateway to go anywhere in the world..  :groan:

But,   :wohoo:   to Alabama CHYNONA!! They survived another leg!!  :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 24, 2012, 12:54:01 AM
Johannesburg is the only Hong Kong direct to Africa, though they can go to Dubai etc to connect, but Johannesburg has 2 flights to Lesotho? #purespec
Hong Kong > Johannesburg (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=281250611&airline=CX&flightNumber=749&departureDate=2012-11-24)
Johannesburg > Lesotho (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=281256586&airline=4Z&flightNumber=8052&departureDate=2012-11-24)

Nothing I've guessed has came true so far but lol heres a shot at a *new* country :lol:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2012, 01:00:55 AM
Tons of available flights, GO SEARCH!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 24, 2012, 06:36:58 AM
Tweet replies! Thanks samanthakuhr!

@peachrff they must be tired... Lots of contestants sleeping in the airport #amazingrace #tar22 #hongkong http://ow.ly/i/1ad3x (http://ow.ly/i/1ad3x) 
 3:32 AM - 24 Nov 12

so this was 4 hours ago, am I right?

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 24, 2012, 08:38:39 AM
Hong Kong destinations to Africa:

Mauritius
Johannesburg
Addis Ababa

That's it!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2012, 12:14:31 PM
Tweet replies! Thanks samanthakuhr!

@peachrff they must be tired... Lots of contestants sleeping in the airport #amazingrace #tar22 #hongkong http://ow.ly/i/1ad3x (http://ow.ly/i/1ad3x) 
 3:32 AM - 24 Nov 12

so this was 4 hours ago, am I right?



At the time I posted, yes.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
JO-burg??

HMMM................
 
TAR 1 Leg 1:

Quote
Leg 1 (United States → South Africa → Zambia)
Victoria Falls was the first ever location visited in the entire seriesAirdate: September 5, 2001

New York City, New York, United States  (Central Park – Bethesda Fountain) (Starting Point)
 New York City (John F. Kennedy International Airport) to Johannesburg, South Africa  (Johannesburg International Airport)
 Johannesburg (Lanseria Airport) to Livingstone, Zambia  (Livingstone Airport)
Livingstone (Victoria Falls - Knife's Edge)
Livingstone (Batoka Gorge)
Songwe Village 
In the first Fast Forward of the race, teams had to hike down a steep slope to the Boiling Pot on the Zambezi River. In the very first Detour for the entire series had teams choosing between Air and Land. In Air, teams had to take a zipline across the gorge and then experience a 54-meter gorge swing. In Land, teams had to take a long hike down the mountains. An unaired Roadblock (available as a bonus feature on the DVD set) required one team member to cook an ostrich egg, and both team members were required to eat it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_1#Leg_1_.28United_States_.E2.86.92_South_Africa_.E2.86.92_Zambia.29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_1#Leg_1_.28United_States_.E2.86.92_South_Africa_.E2.86.92_Zambia.29)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 24, 2012, 04:38:20 PM
For reasons having to do with current events elsewhere in Africa, Johannesburg does seem to be the best bet this time for legs in Africa. (Uganda, Rwanda, Congo involved in conplicated civil war conflict, Sudan/South Sudan situation still unsettled, etc.

The question I have is whether all of the remaining teams would have to go through Hong Kong to get to Johannesburg; or whether teams leaving Hanoi could have gone to Singapore, Bangkok, or other hubs to get there. If we haven't seen all of the teams at the Hong Kong airport, then the other question is whether the teams that were seen there are leading or trailing teams, or risk takers or risk adverse in their travel arrangements.

The other comment I'll make is that South Africa as the next country is still consistent with a mostly-southern hemisphere, or at least south of the Tropic of Cancer route that I've been speculating about.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 24, 2012, 06:02:43 PM
theschnauzers,

You are not the only individual who has hypothesized a route to Africa and South America. World Race Productions blew the southern hemisphere route by going to Hanoi. The entire rest of AR21 may be south of the equator, but I doubt it.

Some hypothesize Johannesburg is next and I believe Addis Ababa is more likely. There are dozens of other possibilities. That qualifies for your below the Tropic of Cancer route.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2012, 08:47:33 PM
ALL we have to go on is one twitter suggesting Africa as a POSSIBLE destination. NOTHING is confirmed until we have further sightings.

:lol: I also liked the direct flight to Katmandu!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 24, 2012, 10:27:35 PM
ALL we have to go on is one twitter suggesting Africa as a POSSIBLE destination. NOTHING is confirmed until we have further sightings.

:lol: I also liked the direct flight to Katmandu!

I say we have TWO twitter suggestions: One from the ground in Hong Kong and another directly from Phil Keoghan: He says he is a 12 hour flight away from where he took off. Just map a 12 hr flight away from Hanoi or a 12 hr flight away from Hong Kong, limit that to the destinations available WEST BOUND within the available time frame and that puts him either in Paris, London, Frankfurt, Munich or Jo'burg.

Paris, London, Frankfurt, Munich do not sound much like they can be confused with African destinations.

I'd say most eyes should be in sub-equatorial Africa if not just in South Africa.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 24, 2012, 11:48:01 PM
Do we even know that Phil was leaving Hanoi through Hong Kong? He might have left Hanoi heading to a different hub city than the Racers that were seen in Hong Kong. That would coincidentally, make the 12 hour flight fit better headed to Johannesburg rather than the longer time needed from Hong Kong. That could suggest Bangkok or Singapore as alternatives for Phil.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 25, 2012, 09:55:05 AM
Maun Botswana is only a 9 hour drive from Victoria falls. 

Maybe?   :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 25, 2012, 10:23:08 AM
Maun Botswana is only a 9 hour drive from Victoria falls. 

Maybe?   :tup:

I noticed that when I was looking up Maun Botswana on Google Earth. While self driving might be fun, I'd expect that a bus or train would be more likely. Or perhaps hired drivers. I don't know what the local safety issues might be.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on November 26, 2012, 08:52:10 AM
Saw the amazing race in DM !

in United Arab Emirates

7 hours ago

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on November 26, 2012, 10:06:03 AM
Omg lucky! :O RT @zena_mk: Wee saaw the Amazing Race in DM awesomeee

not sure where DM is

tweeter in Dubai

DM is Dubai Mall. both tweeters had just to the cheese cake factory at this mall
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Don Task on November 26, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
I am quite sure that teams are currently in Africa since we have no new sightings. I think they will stay there for 2 - 3 legs in two countries.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 26, 2012, 10:24:20 AM
Omg lucky! :O RT @zena_mk: Wee saaw the Amazing Race in DM awesomeee

not sure where DM is

tweeter in Dubai

I'm pretty sure that is in Dubai and is a TAR Ukraine sighting. DM is probably Dubai Mall, one of the largest shopping malls in the world. I think that's where the indoor ski slope is that was used a few seasons back on TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on November 26, 2012, 10:34:14 AM
thats why I put it in SPEC. no desire to incur the wrath of GP  :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2012, 11:54:17 AM
You can always put a LIVE sightings in LIVE.

Not saying it won't get wisked to another place though. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tarflyonthewall on November 26, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
In terms of European countries, I'd definitely put the feelers out in Norway - the producers seem to love rewarding countries that get their own versions with visits. Think about it:

TAR Asia 1 establishes Malaysia as its base, the next US season (TAR 11) visits Kuala Lumpur
Brazil gets a version, the next US season (TAR 13) visits Brazil and features many of the same locations
Israel gets a version, though the country is on CBS's blacklist, the next full-scale foreign season (TAR Australia 1) visits it
Latin America's first season was run by an Argentine production company, the next US season (TAR 16) visits Bariloche
China... well, you know...
TAR Australia gets a version, the next US season (TAR 18) visits Sydney and Broken Hill
France gets a version, the next US season (TAR 21) visits it
Vietnam gets a version, the next US season after it finishes airing (TAR 22) visits it

That just leaves Norway, the Philippines, and the upcoming Ukrainian version. The Philippines is out (although depending on when it was confirmed the TAR Australia 2 visit could count as its reward), but Norway and the Ukraine are still possible.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 27, 2012, 01:52:14 PM
TAR must have arrived in Botswana on the 25th. Its about time we fix our eyes somewhere else. I bought Oslo and Kiev but I also want to keep with the southern hemisphere route and there are non-stops to Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires out of JNB. Where else do you think?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 27, 2012, 04:32:20 PM
I think a second leg, and then a second country in Africa is also a possibility, especially if South America is next after that (which I do think is the case.)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 27, 2012, 04:45:46 PM
Even if this involves TRANSPORTATION, SPECULATION and LIVE sightings I'll keep it to #PureSpec for now:

They arrived on NOV 25 in Botswana (KNOWN)
They ran one leg there on NOV 26 (POSSIBLE)
They flew to Brazil on NOV 27 (PURE SPEC)

They may have flown NOV 27 JNB-GRU
SA 222   South African Airways    10:10 AM    10:10 AM    T-B    4:30 PM    4:29 PM    T-2    Landed  On-time    332
That means they arrived at 12:29 North American Central Time

It is now 8:30 PM in southern Brazil and I'm getting this tweets in French (enough time for a connection GRU-Iguazu):

Marine Canu @MarineCanu
Amazing race aux chutes d'Iguazu sur la 17! #souvenir #amazingtrip #iguazu
29m

Amazing race at Iguazu Falls on (the route?) 17

"the 17" seems to refer to Route 17 there. Referenced to an old post in Spanish that talks about Routes 17 & 12 near Iguazu. (Estoy por viajar a Foz de Iguazu desde Salto (Concordia, ER) ... con la 17 que no es linda ruta y volver hacia atras a eldorado sbre la 12.)

Maade in Braazil @Shaabine
Huuum Cajouuuuu #AmazingRace
27m

Maade in Braazil @Shaabine
Ils ont de la chance ceux d'amazing Race
27m

They're lucky those of the amazing Race.

Maade in Braazil @Shaabine
Les Chutes d'iguaçu au Bresil .. Je reve d'y aller ..
28m

Iguazu Falls in Brazil .. I dream of going ..
   
If, per TARflyOnTheWall, countries get rewarded with a visit. Brazil just switched back to a Brazil-Only TAR. We may (PURE SPECULATION) have them already in South America.

If we are talking FALLS, how about speculating Victoria to Iguazu to... Niagara???

Of course this is pure speculation since this would have put Phil in true dire straits to get there ahead.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on November 27, 2012, 04:50:43 PM
TAR France went to Brazil and the episode is currently airing :tup: That's what all those tweets are talking about :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 27, 2012, 05:02:43 PM
TAR France went to Brazil and the episode is currently airing :tup: That's what all those tweets are talking about :)

Yes. It is possible and also from this one from Brazil:

Andrea Pires @AndreaPires1
"O Brasil não conhece o Brasil..."Começando agora uma reportagem sobre Foz do Iguaçu, na TV francesa!! E ontem foi sobre o Rio!
1h

"Brazil doesn't know Brazil..." Starting now, a report about Iguazu Falls on French TV!! Last time it was about Rio!

That's why I kept it to Pure Speculation. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 27, 2012, 05:11:35 PM

Just read Xarles findings about the blog (thanks bro!  :yess: ) but unfortunately they didn't post any pics except the night shot at their hotel :(

Anyway, I also read a couple of travel blogs, and one of them got me suspicious about teams were somewhere in that area,
Posted on Nov 26, the blogger arrived in Maun and telling stories about how difficult to get a taxi outside of Maun Airport, and they were taken to Okavango River Lodge, where they also saw a lot of taxis lined up with "two staffs", "a friend" and a driver..

I've sent a question regarding those scene, and still waiting for his reply, hopefully he can tell us something ;)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 28, 2012, 03:35:52 AM
Not be a downer on the anti Europe route(which dw, its very possible) I'd like to point out that Joburg DOES have flights to Europe. Particularly London, which like TAR14(which was after the Olympics) they visited the host city, Beijing. Johannesburg has late PM flights to London arriving in the early AM which are perfect times to do legs. Just sayin'
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 28, 2012, 08:48:58 AM
Yes, Kandace you are correct. Johannesburg does have 4 flights today nonstop to London plus one to Frankfurt, Munich, Paris-CDG, Zurich and Amsterdam. However, Amazing Races have been to all of those places at least once (and for London  and Paris twice or Amsterdam thrice), so what is the point of going off a tropic of Cancer route?

You can say that Sao Paulo has been the place where AR9 visited, but that is the only Amazing Race visit there. Other cities in South America are easy connections from Sao Paulo if World Race Productions wanted something new.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on November 28, 2012, 08:50:30 AM
Oh come on...if they're going to visit Brazil , no more São Paulo and Rio.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: halfass09 on November 28, 2012, 09:35:27 AM
I'm going to speculate the rest of the route this season! (Hopefully I turn out to be right)

Most likely they will spend 2-3 legs in Africa, which includes Leg 7 in Maun, Botswana. As for the other 1/2 leg(s), they could have stayed in Botswana, or traveled to Namibia or South Africa, who knows. After the African legs, I think it's most likely that they head to South America, and the only country I see them visiting in Brazil. There is always the chance that they fly Europe (London would be the best possibility), but I believe they will fly to Brazil. In Brazil, I think & hope they will have one leg in Brasilia, and one leg in Manaus. Brasilia is the capital and has never been visited and Manaus is the largest city in the Amazon rainforest, which has also never been visited.
If there is still 1 leg left, (which means they only spent 2 legs in Africa), then I think it's a good possibility that they will visit Latin America or the Caribbean. Mexico, Cuba and the Dominican Republic are good candidates. Then off to the finish line, where this year I speculate will be in........ TEXAS! Houston and Dallas are two cities wayyy overdue. Houston has never been visited, and Dallas was only visited once back in TAR 5.

So to recap:
Leg 7: Hanoi --> Maun, Botswana
Leg 8: Maun --> Botswana/Namibia/South Africa??
Leg 9: Africa --> Brasilia, Brazil
Leg 10: Brasilia --> Manaus, Brazil
Leg 11: Manaus --> Latin America
Leg 12: Latin America --> Houston/Dallas, Texas

This is PURE SPECULATION but I feel this is a very probable and likely route to finish the race!  :conf:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on November 28, 2012, 10:27:33 AM
I think we will see Europe this time around also.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on November 28, 2012, 04:28:27 PM
My Predicitons for the final legs:
7. Maun, Botswana
8. Port Elizabeth, South Africa
9. Brasilia, Brazil
10. Amazon Region, Brazil
11. Ecuador (anywhere is fine)
12. Houston, USA

Now that I look back, this is very simular to halfass09's predictions :lol:.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Charlie90 on November 28, 2012, 08:56:12 PM
If the end up visiting Cuba, i'll be shocked..I don't mean just this season, i mean in the nearby future..or ever..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 28, 2012, 08:57:32 PM
If the end up visiting Cuba, i'll be shocked..I don't mean just this season, i mean in the nearby future..or ever..

They can't -.-
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 28, 2012, 10:35:21 PM
By U.S. law only limited categories of U.S. passport holders can even visit Cuba, and most have to do so through travel via a third country, such as Mexico or the Bahamas. There have been rumblings of a change, but that would involve domestic U.S. politics, especially in Florida, so it is hard to say when that might change,

That does not mean a leg or two in the Caribbean basin isn't possible. Only TAR 7 has had legs in the area (Jamaica and Puerto Rico with the end point in Miami/Fort Lauderdale) and I've felt we were overdue for another leg in the region. Haiti would be difficult, as the country is still recovering from the earthquake that destroy Port au Prince, and much of southern Haiti, not to mention the string of hurricanes coming through there in the last decade causing extensive flooding and damage, The Dominican Republic, the Virgin Islands, and much of the Lesser Antilles are possibilities, though.

Oh, as to South America, I don't have the location name handy but there is a major radio observatory in Chile that could harken back to the start line, and that might be a location they go to. Just a passing thought.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2012, 10:39:22 PM
If the end up visiting Cuba, i'll be shocked..I don't mean just this season, i mean in the nearby future..or ever..

They can't -.-

Sure they can, if BVM wants too. Just takes a bit of paperwork. But I doubt that BVM would go there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: halfass09 on November 28, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
I've been doing a bit of research and I'm starting to think that if the race ends in Houston, the penultimate leg will be in Mexico City. Mexico is loooooonng overdue and hasn't been visited since TAR 3!!! Also, there are tons of direct flights from Mexico City to Houston. And Mexico City is easily accesible from South America or Europe.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on November 28, 2012, 11:36:50 PM
I've been doing a bit of research and I'm starting to think that if the race ends in Houston, the penultimate leg will be in Mexico City. Mexico is loooooonng overdue and hasn't been visited since TAR 3!!! Also, there are tons of direct flights from Mexico City to Houston. And Mexico City is easily accesible from South America or Europe.

Doubt it as Mexico is on the current travel warnings list for US Citizens.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 29, 2012, 12:01:37 AM
I've been doing a bit of research and I'm starting to think that if the race ends in Houston, the penultimate leg will be in Mexico City. Mexico is loooooonng overdue and hasn't been visited since TAR 3!!! Also, there are tons of direct flights from Mexico City to Houston. And Mexico City is easily accesible from South America or Europe.

I'm starting to like you. (Pure speculation, hahaha.)

In case such miracle happens, and if the 50 plus people now lost somewhere in Africa ever get out of there and into Europe or South America, then the most likely candidate city in Mexico, afterwards, would be Cancun. I insist this is almost impossible but it has been my wish for almost a decade.

CUN has non-stop flights from most of Europe and South America and into almost anywhere-USA. It is an airport where you can see the most unthinkable airliners parked side by side as can be ArkeFly NL and TACA SV, Frontier US and Cubana CU, Transaero RU and Mayan Island Air BZ or Jet Blue US and Magnicharters MX; not to mention a bunch of legacy carriers from all over.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 29, 2012, 01:35:14 AM
I've been doing a bit of research and I'm starting to think that if the race ends in Houston, the penultimate leg will be in Mexico City. Mexico is loooooonng overdue and hasn't been visited since TAR 3!!! Also, there are tons of direct flights from Mexico City to Houston. And Mexico City is easily accesible from South America or Europe.

Doubt it as Mexico is on the current travel warnings list for US Citizens.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html

Dear RedWings,

I get to read this same old story every season and I still don't understand it as it also applied to Season 3. So let me explain:

Back in Season 3 (2002) when they visited at least 2 states and the Federal District in the country, Mexico was then also in the American Black List; as usually are the US in the Mexican Black List: http://guiadelviajero.sre.gob.mx/ ...and this has been almost permanent since the Mexican-American War of 1847.

Nevertheless TAR S03 came to Mexico in 2002.

I now have to guess that the avoiding of Mexico only happens with WRP as with, our without, our very well liked TAR, Mexico was, is and will likely remain, among the Top 10 most visited countries in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism with over 20 million Americans visiting every year: http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/09/travel/mexico-travel-spring-break/index.html with or without the warnings, as CNN explains.

If WRP wants to go by unsustainable warnings, let them be free to do so: It is their responsibility, to their people and to their government, but in the meanwhile please let the world know that even with all of the bad press, Mexico is safer for Americans than any big city in their own country:

Each year, about ONE in every 155,000 visiting Americans dies in ALL of Mexico from ANY cause; JUST IN Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Pop.: 165,000, there are about SEVEN Americans deceased -by murder only- every year.

The probabilities of something bad happening to TAR racers in Mexico are lower than those of you winning the $579 million Powerball jackpot last night.

Did you win at least a part of it?

If so, lets celebrate and I will invite you to one of TARLA1's most beautiful roadblock sites in Mexico: http://www.blueparrot.com, but if you didn't then please let old news just get older. Gracias.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Neobie on November 29, 2012, 05:29:24 AM
I love Mexico (one of my top three places in the world!) but I'm afraid the reasons you cited, Xarles, is why TAR doesn't like to go to Mexico! Too many Americans go there, so it's, under some strange reasoning, considered "not exotic enough" for viewers. Same thing why Canada's always given a miss...

I sure hope TAR gets to cover more of North America (even within the US)!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 29, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
I love Mexico (one of my top three places in the world!) but I'm afraid the reasons you cited, Xarles, is why TAR doesn't like to go to Mexico! Too many Americans go there, so it's, under some strange reasoning, considered "not exotic enough" for viewers. Same thing why Canada's always given a miss...

I sure hope TAR gets to cover more of North America (even within the US)!

 :lol:

Probably the same reason why Survivor hasn't filmed up here.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 29, 2012, 09:38:44 AM
Hmm that girl doesnt look like ou blonde...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 29, 2012, 09:39:04 AM
I agree with you, Neobie and Leafsfan. But also, I had never thought of the hype that TAR can cause in Mexico among both, Mexicans and Americans. It could be like having 500 RFFers on your back!  :lol3:  A big difference from Season 3, when TAR could easily be ignored and there was not much social media. Probably it is the same for Canada.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
Hmm that girl doesnt look like ou blonde...
???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 29, 2012, 09:43:46 AM
Our* I mean it could very well be us but I dont remember our crew having head sets :lol:

Eta nor having fancy backpacks
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2012, 10:00:46 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/possible%20sightings/TAR22Santiagomaybe.jpg)

I don't think it is us...our guys have BLUE tags.
 
 
clickclick to enlarge
 
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Christchurch/th_2012-11-18_205135.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Christchurch/2012-11-18_205135.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Hanoi/th_TAR22HanoiHotel.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Hanoi/TAR22HanoiHotel.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 29, 2012, 10:11:17 AM
I'm now following the Nairobi lead from *LIVE*. Sounds more than possible, if not for... Ukraine!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 29, 2012, 10:14:16 AM
My thought too xarles :lol: dubai has a lot of flights there..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: amazinglatinoamericafan on November 29, 2012, 10:57:39 AM
he is on a trip in europe he is in swiss like our friend said
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: amazinglatinoamericafan on November 29, 2012, 10:59:47 AM
he was in milan yesterday
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 29, 2012, 11:05:30 AM
Could we be now looking at a Botswana-Kenya-Switzerland route?

LX 293   
SWISS    12:20 AM    1:35 AM       6:25 AM    7:22 AM       Landed
  57 min ago    333   

If that route is right, Phil might have taken this flight from Nairobi to Zurich.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
he was in milan yesterday

Source your info please? Give us a link? Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 29, 2012, 11:06:48 AM
he was in milan yesterday

Source your info please? Give us a link? Thanks!

Weihan was.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 29, 2012, 11:08:58 AM
The sighting could be FRA?

There was LH 573  that departed JNB at 7:40 pm on 11/28/12 and landed FRA at 5:30/5:28 am on 11/29/12
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 29, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
There is also LX 289 which left JNB at 8:25/8:38 pm on 11/28/12 and arrived ZRH at 6:10 am on 11/29/12.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2012, 11:22:54 AM
I have my doubts about Nairobi guy.... ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 29, 2012, 11:26:19 AM
Maybe Zurich

SuisseAir
LX 289   JNB to ZUR   Nov 28 @  8:25pm to 6:10am (Nov 29)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on November 29, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
Just got full confirmation -double sourced locally- from Chile that it is the Norwegian TAR there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZBC Company on November 29, 2012, 11:50:37 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/possible%20sightings/TAR22Santiagomaybe.jpg)

I don't think it is us...our guys have BLUE tags.
 
 
clickclick to enlarge
 
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Christchurch/th_2012-11-18_205135.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Christchurch/2012-11-18_205135.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Hanoi/th_TAR22HanoiHotel.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2022/Hanoi/TAR22HanoiHotel.jpg)

This is Norway promblem
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2012, 12:21:13 PM
Just add this to the pot, lol:

Congrats @DeanOelsch for raising R106K for rhinos @WildlifeACTFund last w/e at the JHB AmazingRace. Was so much fun! #arfc10 #Rhino
  6 hours ago by HornNOTMedicine |  Share
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 29, 2012, 12:26:30 PM
Just add this to the pot, lol:

Congrats @DeanOelsch for raising R106K for rhinos @WildlifeACTFund last w/e at the JHB AmazingRace. Was so much fun! #arfc10 #Rhino
  6 hours ago by HornNOTMedicine |  Share

I think that has to do with a large local race in Johannesburg a few days ago. If you search on #arfc10, you'll get a bunch of tweets and pictures of people in costume and of a big bunch of helium balloons carrying a cow (hopefully fake) through the air.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2012, 12:30:19 PM
Yes, just want it here to avoid confusion! Thx!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 29, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
A summation of flights from Johannesburg to Swiss Alps region.  Nov 28/29

Lufthansa   LH 573   JNB to FRA 7:40 pm  FRA at 5:30 (5:28)

Suisse Air    LX 289   JNB to ZUR   Nov 28 @  8:25pm to 6:10am

South African Airways   SA 264  JNB to MUC   9:25pm to 7:00am (6:32)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 29, 2012, 12:53:20 PM
I believe titlis has a webcam...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 29, 2012, 01:55:54 PM
I believe titlis has a webcam...

http://www.titlis.ch/en/titlis/titlis_live/webcam

Its late there now..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 29, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
Q ...Thanks, thanks. Which is the closest city?

A    Weihan @TERRRYAKI
      umm lucerne i guess! Or interlaken.


Would like to point out(Or me clinging onto hope for Engelberg..)
Lucerne is the closest 'big' city to Engelberg. It is less than an hour drive.. http://goo.gl/maps/Afp9l
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2012, 05:43:16 PM
yay Kandace <333 you finally got Switzerland <333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 29, 2012, 05:50:51 PM
I'm not sure on the one guy though..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on November 29, 2012, 10:40:42 PM

Swiss alps sounds fit into the theme Majestic Landscapes this season  ;)

But still..

I'm not sure on the one guy though..


Until we had a legit picture of phil or the teams..  :lol:


Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 30, 2012, 05:04:35 AM
I wonder where (time zone) his camera clock was set too?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 30, 2012, 05:11:17 AM
Time in Switzerland is 12:11 pm (UTC+1).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 30, 2012, 05:14:41 AM
He's from Singapore. But lets get back to tweets.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 30, 2012, 05:26:03 AM
Well with a legit photo of Phil on the Jungfrau train from yesterday, teams should have arrived there this morning. If his camera clock is set to Singapore (+8) and Switzerland is (+1), then that is a 7 hour time difference in the pic. So he took the pic of Phil about 11:19 am on the Jungfrau train.....which fits with arriving on probably that SwisseAir flight from Jo'burg, transferring at the Zurich airport to train and transferring to the Jungfrau train in Interlaken.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 30, 2012, 09:54:39 AM
This is so exciting ! I went to the top of jungfrau on my euro trip with Contiki!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 30, 2012, 10:10:17 AM
Nice!

I remember this!  It's the train that goes up to Jungfrau:

(http://www.rainyhills.com/Gallery/Jungfrau_files/Jungfrau01.jpg)


I have a very distinct recall that this very location was included in the opening credits of an earlier season, but one where the location ended up not being used that season. Does anyone remember this? If it was in fact related to an unaired or unused task from that earlier season, that may help in looking for the teams there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZBC Company on November 30, 2012, 10:15:59 AM
Nice!

I remember this!  It's the train that goes up to Jungfrau:

(http://www.rainyhills.com/Gallery/Jungfrau_files/Jungfrau01.jpg)


I have a very distinct recall that this very location was included in the opening credits of an earlier season, but one where the location ended up not being used that season. Does anyone remember this? If it was in fact related to an unaired or unused task from that earlier season, that may help in looking for the teams there.

was it season 3
Sphinx Observatory
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 30, 2012, 10:24:13 AM
This is so exciting ! I went to the top of jungfrau on my euro trip with Contiki!

That's quite a trip, but I doubt that you actually got to the top of the Jungfrau. Where I bet you did go (and I went several decades ago) was to the Jungfraujoch, which is the top of the rail line past the top end of the Ice Palace. Here is a description of the trip to get there:

The Jungfrau railway climbs from Kleine Scheidigg to the Eiger Glacier station, well known for its mountain restaurant and polar dog kennels, then continues through the Eiger tunnel, only stopping to enjoy spectacular vistas on the way to the highest railway station in Europe. The Jungfraujoch is 3454 m up.

The mountain restaurant with its beautiful panorama terrace is located below the Eigergletscher (Eiger Glacier) at the foot of the majestic Mönch and Jungfrau massif at 2322 metres.
The actual Jungfrau is 4158 m and you have to walk through a treacherous ice field plus climb to get there. I doubt that you actually did that. Only experienced climbers should attempt it and tourist groups certainly do not. I didn't. The height at 3454 m made me very ill and I had to get down as rapidly as I could.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 30, 2012, 10:34:44 AM
He's from Singapore. But lets get back to tweets.

But wait!

What time was his picture posted?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 30, 2012, 10:38:26 AM
Ya I only got o where the train took us. In the first pic that was posted earlier. I went zip lining and had a bad pressure headache/altitude sickness :(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 30, 2012, 10:39:41 AM
I rmbr that picture from the season 4 intro.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 30, 2012, 10:45:18 AM
Well with a legit photo of Phil on the Jungfrau train from yesterday, teams should have arrived there this morning. If his camera clock is set to Singapore (+8) and Switzerland is (+1), then that is a 7 hour time difference in the pic. So he took the pic of Phil about 11:19 am on the Jungfrau train.....which fits with arriving on probably that SwisseAir flight from Jo'burg, transferring at the Zurich airport to train and transferring to the Jungfrau train in Interlaken.

I like the 11:10 am on 11/29/12 for Phil.  But did he mix up am and pm on his camera time setting?  Because 7 hours away from 30/11/12 6:19 would be 11:19 pm on November 29th, 2012.   :duno:

(http://i.imgur.com/JVysm.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 30, 2012, 10:48:55 AM
Around 9am swiss time I think...but its the time it was uploaded to twitter..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 30, 2012, 10:51:07 AM
You are going the wrong way, Chateau. Singapore to Switzerland is like NYC to LA, you have to subtract the hours. If, as you propose, you add the 7 hours to 6:19, that would be 1:19am, not 11:19 pm. The photo is certainly not taken at 1:19 am.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 30, 2012, 11:02:28 AM
nvm, I was wrong.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 30, 2012, 11:07:16 AM
I rmbr that picture from the season 4 intro.

The only Amazing Race visits to Switzerland have been:
AR3 - Grindelwald, Kandersteg, Montreux, Geneva
AR14 - Locarno, Interlaken
AR18 - Zermatt

Only AR3 pictures could have been in the season 4 intro
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 30, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
The picture Chateau provided is the Sphinx Observatory.

The train station that goes up to Jungfraujoc
(http://i46.[banned image hosting site].com/ngt64o.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 30, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
I rmbr that picture from the season 4 intro.

The only Amazing Race visits to Switzerland have been:
AR3 - Grindelwald, Kandersteg, Montreux, Geneva
AR14 - Locarno, Interlaken
AR18 - Zermatt

Only AR3 pictures could have been in the season 4 intro

So I was correct

at :39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brFdla7brUM
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2012, 11:39:28 AM
If Phil was filming on on the MT , then that is a stand up, and we can assume that this IS a TAR 22 location. Perhaps PitStop? I would search FB and twitter for this location in current time, my guess is that the leg is/has ending now.

And they are very close to an infamous Swiss task as well! Switchback time??
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on November 30, 2012, 12:19:44 PM
If Phil was filming on on the MT , then that is a stand up, and we can assume that this IS a TAR 22 location. Perhaps PitStop? I would search FB and twitter for this location in current time, my guess is that the leg is/has ending now.

And they are very close to an infamous Swiss task as well! Switchback time??

Which taks is that?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 30, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
If Phil was filming on on the MT , then that is a stand up, and we can assume that this IS a TAR 22 location. Perhaps PitStop? I would search FB and twitter for this location in current time, my guess is that the leg is/has ending now.

And they are very close to an infamous Swiss task as well! Switchback time??

Which taks is that?

I'm guessing it is the cheese rolling task from TAR 14, although it could be the TAR 3 puzzle task.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on November 30, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
Say Cheese!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on November 30, 2012, 02:38:15 PM
That cheese hill was dangerous enough in summer without any snow on it.......It will really be crazy in winter with snow.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on November 30, 2012, 03:35:38 PM
Maybe they will have to use collapsing snow sleds this time!   :lol:

Cheese Hill, visited June 2010.  Locals still talking about it! :lol3:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Parisinspring/TAR22/IMG_0296_zpse4c00141.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on November 30, 2012, 08:24:45 PM
If Phil was filming on on the MT , then that is a stand up, and we can assume that this IS a TAR 22 location. Perhaps PitStop? I would search FB and twitter for this location in current time, my guess is that the leg is/has ending now.

And they are very close to an infamous Swiss task as well! Switchback time??

Which taks is that?

I'm guessing it is the cheese rolling task from TAR 14, although it could be the TAR 3 puzzle task.

I am not familiar with an AR3 ROADBLOCK with a puzzle. The only ROADBLOCKs I know of in Switzerland were:
episode 8 crossbow to shoot an apple off a mannequin's head
episode 9 construct 2 bicycles and ride them from the Chateau de Chillon to the Bassett Marina
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 30, 2012, 08:48:59 PM
It was a detour task, but it was infamous for how much trouble the teams had with it. And given that a Switchback has been a roadblock or a fast forward so far, I'm not aware that a detour can't be a switchback.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on November 30, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
It was a detour task, but it was infamous for how much trouble the teams had with it. And given that a Switchback has been a roadblock or a fast forward so far, I'm not aware that a detour can't be a switchback.

The TAR 14 cheese task was just an active route info.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2012, 12:56:05 AM
? ? ?
 
 
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121130201338AAGqWdR (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121130201338AAGqWdR)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on December 01, 2012, 12:57:42 AM
You know , Yahoo can lie as much as wikipedia  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on December 01, 2012, 01:00:25 AM
You know , Yahoo can lie as much as wikipedia  :lol:

um wikipedia doesnt lie xo
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on December 01, 2012, 01:02:42 AM
You know , Yahoo can lie as much as wikipedia  :lol:

um wikipedia doesnt lie xo

they do
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on December 01, 2012, 01:04:51 AM
You know , Yahoo can lie as much as wikipedia  :lol:

um wikipedia doesnt lie xo

Want to buy Brooklyn Bridge?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2012, 01:08:25 AM
Enough. Just adding it because...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on December 01, 2012, 01:20:15 AM
assuming this is the race so far

1 bora bora, tahiti
2 bora bora, tahiti
3, christchurch, new zealand
4 denpasar, indonesia
5 hanoi, vietnam
6 ?, vietnam
7 maun, botswana
8 ?, botswana
9 switzerland
10 POSSIBLY malta?
11 somewhere in europe/CA/SA
12 usa!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on December 01, 2012, 08:09:21 AM

SUE YEAP, The West Australian
Updated November 12, 2012, 11:30 am
Let the race begin

As host of the high-stakes reality series The Amazing Race, Phil Keoghan has seen more of the world than most viewers ever will and has a box of about 20 used passports to show for it.

In 21 seasons of globetrotting Keoghan has witnessed bickering contestants, havoc caused by late or missed flights, pandemonium erupting from taxi drivers getting lost and the tears of those eliminated for arriving last on the mat.

But there's one thing Keoghan would like to see again and it's cheese. The season 14 challenge where 90kg rounds of Swiss cheese rolled out of control towards people and houses has been a viewer and YouTube hit, so a reprise in a future season is not out of the question, especially with another old favourite returning this season.

 "We will be getting to Moscow, a country in Africa, another new country in Europe," says Keoghan of the remaining destinations for season 21, which has already seen teams pass through China, Indonesia and Bangladesh, with action due to move to Turkey in tonight's fast-tracked episode.

"I can tell you this season we will be revisiting a country in Europe and having a switchback of a popular European challenge of the past. It's definitely going to make a lot of people happy.

"With regards to the cheese; it is not actually the cheese but absolutely we have to get back at some point and do the cheese because that is up there in the top five. That is definitely an all-time favourite."

The stakes are higher than ever this season with the $1 million first prize set to double if the team that won the first leg, Abbie and Ryan, also win the last leg.

Another team everyone is talking about this season are Sri Lankan twins Natalie an Nadiya. "They finish each other's sentence, they are hysterical, they drive some of the other teams crazy," Keoghan says.

"They are one of those teams that really polarise the audience; people either absolutely love them or they get driven crazy by them because of the way they keep saying 'twinnies' all the time and finishing each other's sentences."

Contestants in The Amazing Race are tested by a range of physical and mental challenges from rappelling down a Pasadena bridge and eating the Chinese delicacy hasma (the fatty tissue found near frog fallopian tubes) in the season opener, to the rat catching assignment in Bangladesh.

Is there anything Keoghan wouldn't or couldn't do if challenged? "For me personally there is nothing there I wouldn't do; there are lots of things I'd prefer not to do," he says. "I am not a fan of eating weird crazy food. So I wouldn't choose to eat frogs' fallopian tubes. That said, if you told me I had a chance to win $1 million if I ate something I could probably muster up the energy to do it.

"That's one thing I like about Race is we tend to focus on food people actually do eat, we don't just have people eating things for the sake of eating, they are eating delicacies from a particular place."

Another thing Keoghan loves about the show is it is filmed in the real world with limited control of how events unfold.

"When they randomly come into contact with a taxi driver, suddenly that taxi driver is in a way dictating what the content is," he says. "This guy is suddenly a part of our creative process and out of that come these crazy cab rides where people have quite literally lost $1 million."

The Amazing Race picked up another Emmy award this year for outstanding reality program and Keoghan is ready to pack his bags to have season 22 filmed by the end of the year. After that, it's a well-deserved break with his family back in his native New Zealand for Christmas.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/15358522/let-the-race-begin/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/15358522/let-the-race-begin/)

If Malta is correct, maybe Phil accidentally said the spoiler for this season? ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 01, 2012, 08:24:12 AM
Wait where did Malta come from? :stare
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on December 01, 2012, 08:25:45 AM
Wait where did Malta come from? :stare

From Yahoo!Answers :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on December 01, 2012, 08:39:47 AM
But there's one thing Keoghan would like to see again and it's cheese. The season 14 challenge where 90kg rounds of Swiss cheese rolled out of control towards people and houses has been a viewer and YouTube hit, so a reprise in a future season is not out of the question, especially with another old favourite returning this season.

Hint?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on December 01, 2012, 08:49:56 AM
But there's one thing Keoghan would like to see again and it's cheese. The season 14 challenge where 90kg rounds of Swiss cheese rolled out of control towards people and houses has been a viewer and YouTube hit, so a reprise in a future season is not out of the question, especially with another old favourite returning this season.

Hint?
Will they do another Switchback in Switzerland? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2012, 08:52:52 AM
I would put NO faith in MALTA unless/until there are CONFIRMED sightings. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 09:06:28 AM
I would put NO faith in MALTA unless/until there are CONFIRMED sightings. :lol:

The whole screen shot and how the question is worded screams fake to me.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on December 01, 2012, 09:49:19 AM
? ? ?
 
 
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121130201338AAGqWdR (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121130201338AAGqWdR)

It has been deleted...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2012, 09:53:34 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Charlie90 on December 01, 2012, 10:03:30 AM
If the interview is for TAR22, then why does it mention Moscow? Are they visiting it again or is it a mistake?
It can't be for TAR21, there is no African country in the route, and no new country in Europe..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 10:05:35 AM
If the interview is for TAR22, then why does it mention Moscow? Are they visiting it again or is it a mistake?
It can't be for TAR21, there is no African country in the route, and no new country in Europe..

Phil is lying about TAR21 route  :lol:

Also Switzerland S14-S18-S22 now a pattern forming lol

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2012, 10:10:11 AM
Phil gave at least TWO (maybe 3) interviews where he misquoted an African leg and a NEW country in Europe in reference to TAR 21. Either he just plain goofed, or he was thinking about TAR 22 while discussing 21.... :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 10:26:24 AM
Phil gave at least TWO (maybe 3) interviews where he misquoted an African leg and a NEW country in Europe in reference to TAR 21. Either he just plain goofed, or he was thinking about TAR 22 while discussing 21.... :duno:

So Phil is given the route before the race begins? Interesting.

Even at that Botswana was a previously visited country unless they did a quick leg somewhere before flying into Switzerland
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2012, 10:42:56 AM
No one said a NEW African leg.

You can see the original quote here:

 "We will be getting to Moscow, a country in Africa, another new country in Europe," says Keoghan of the remaining destinations for season 21, which has already seen teams pass through China, Indonesia and Bangladesh, with action due to move to Turkey in tonight's fast-tracked episode.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/15358522/let-the-race-begin/



Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
No one said a NEW African leg.

You can see the original quote here:

 "We will be getting to Moscow, a country in Africa, another new country in Europe," says Keoghan of the remaining destinations for season 21, which has already seen teams pass through China, Indonesia and Bangladesh, with action due to move to Turkey in tonight's fast-tracked episode.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/entertainment/a/-/entertainment/15358522/let-the-race-begin/

Misread! So potentially we should look at new countries in Europe. Malta fits that but IDK I think Malta is fake tbh
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on December 01, 2012, 04:42:34 PM
So this is what we have so far it appears.

1. French Polynesia
2. French Polynesia
3. New Zealand
4. Indonesia
5. Vietnam
6. Vietnam
7. Botswana
8. ???
9. Switzerland
10. Germany
11. ???
12. USA (obviously)

Theories I have for legs 8 and eventually 11:
a. Second leg in Botswana, other country in Europe
b. leg in South Africa/Namibia, second leg in Germany (i hope  :hrt:)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on December 01, 2012, 05:08:16 PM
Let's hope Leg 11 is either another European country (I would guess London due to the Olympics) OR a South American country to make a 6-continent race which would be absolutely amazing!

My spec for Leg 8 would probably be another leg somewhere near Maun but probably remaining in Botswana
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maxen on December 01, 2012, 05:34:27 PM
I think the 11th leg could be in Berlin too.  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
SO thankfully I was right about the street of the location of the pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redwings8831 on December 01, 2012, 06:06:03 PM
Here is the Berlin Pit Stop location:  Note that it was not Christmastime when the Streetview shot was taken!   :lol:

Joachimstaler Platz  Streetview Link (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=berlin&hl=en&ll=52.503527,13.331244&spn=0.003612,0.015739&hnear=Berlin,+Germany&gl=us&t=m&layer=c&cbll=52.50353,13.331244&panoid=kEHybfikOV8zU036oj0Sgg&cbp=11,244.1,,1,1.39&z=17)

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u513/supah3ro/ScreenShot2012-12-02at84044AM.png)

I hope this pitstop is a prelude to a leg at the Santa Claus Village in Finland.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on December 01, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
I think the 11th leg could be in Berlin too.  :'(

May be possible, but I doubt it. The pattern lately seems to be a total of 9 countries (featuring tasks, not counting visits like Germany & Netherlands in TAR19 or Austria in TAR20), with three of them having 2 legs (or the equivalent - 1 1/2 for Denmark & Belgium in TAR19). With the fact that they most probably already visited those three, and that they are in Europe and it's pretty easy to travel from a country to another, I think that we'll see another country for leg 11 (just hope that there wasen't a last minute cancellation à la TAR19 Leg 5)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on December 01, 2012, 06:48:08 PM
I think the 11th leg could be in Berlin too.  :'(

I want that so bad now. Its an awesome city, and I always enjoyed it when the last two legs before the finale were in the same city. IDK why, I always like the legs. So I am hoping for double the Berlin  :hearts:.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 01, 2012, 06:58:28 PM
French Polynesia
New Zealand
Indonesia
Vietnam
Botswana
Switzerland
Germany

We had 8 last time not counting US, so we could have another African country as our 8th..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on December 01, 2012, 07:10:09 PM
French Polynesia
New Zealand
Indonesia
Vietnam
Botswana
Switzerland
Germany

We had 8 last time not counting US, so we could have another African country as our 8th..

Or another European one...

Show content
COUGHSLOVAKIACOUGH
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on December 01, 2012, 07:27:32 PM
SO thankfully I was right about the street of the location of the pitstop.

You are aware that the KuDamm is over 2 miles long!   :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on December 01, 2012, 07:34:24 PM
So this is what we have so far it appears.

1. French Polynesia
2. French Polynesia
3. New Zealand
4. Indonesia
5. Vietnam
6. Vietnam
7. Botswana
8. ???
9. Switzerland
10. Germany
11. ???
12. USA (obviously)

Theories I have for legs 8 and eventually 11:
a. Second leg in Botswana, other country in Europe
b. leg in South Africa/Namibia, second leg in Germany (i hope  :hrt:)

Here is my guess:

Leg   Country
1   French Polynesia
2   French Polynesia
3   New Zealand
4   Indonesia
5   Vietnam
6   Vietnam
7   Botswana
8   Botswana
9   Switzerland & Germany
10   Gibraltar
11   London England
12   USA
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 07:37:22 PM
SO thankfully I was right about the street of the location of the pitstop.

You are aware that the KuDamm is over 2 miles long!   :waves:

I was close though I think I got the santa but not the exact location
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on December 01, 2012, 07:43:24 PM
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 07:47:57 PM
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!!!

Oh well that is why I am not a detective and Chateau is.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on December 01, 2012, 08:30:19 PM
It was your picture of the smallish Allianz building, now gone, that clued me into the spot!   :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 01, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
It was your picture of the smallish Allianz building, now gone, that clued me into the spot!   :keeta:

Its gone!? LOLLLL

I didn't even notice you have a very keen eye
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on December 01, 2012, 09:05:02 PM
found this tweet idk the relevance i didnt check the profile yet
Richmond FC‏@Richmond_FC

 The final activity for the Amazing Race, on Four Mile Beach in Port Douglas. Go teams! pic.twitter.com/gxx3bazx



 View photo
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on December 01, 2012, 09:12:15 PM
found this tweet idk the relevance i didnt check the profile yet
Richmond FC‏@Richmond_FC

 The final activity for the Amazing Race, on Four Mile Beach in Port Douglas. Go teams! pic.twitter.com/gxx3bazx



 View photo

I'm pretty shure that's a local race...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on December 01, 2012, 09:12:53 PM
found this tweet idk the relevance i didnt check the profile yet
Richmond FC‏@Richmond_FC

 The final activity for the Amazing Race, on Four Mile Beach in Port Douglas. Go teams! pic.twitter.com/gxx3bazx



 View photo

The final task?!?

If its wrong and its an SL, it could be TARAus.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on December 01, 2012, 09:15:45 PM
found this tweet idk the relevance i didnt check the profile yet
Richmond FC‏@Richmond_FC

 The final activity for the Amazing Race, on Four Mile Beach in Port Douglas. Go teams! pic.twitter.com/gxx3bazx



 View photo

The final task?!?

If its wrong and its an SL, it could be TARAus.
port douglas is in australia near cairns so if aus3 is filming that is possible
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Bwils927 on December 01, 2012, 09:19:06 PM
found this tweet idk the relevance i didnt check the profile yet
Richmond FC‏@Richmond_FC

 The final activity for the Amazing Race, on Four Mile Beach in Port Douglas. Go teams! pic.twitter.com/gxx3bazx



 View photo

The final task?!?

If its wrong and its an SL, it could be TARAus.
port douglas is in australia near cairns so if aus3 is filming that is possible
just looked up the account i can confirm it is a local race with members of the portland fc rugby team sorry for any misleading
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on December 02, 2012, 02:17:00 AM
Here is the Berlin Pit Stop location:  Note that it was not Christmastime when the Streetview shot was taken!   :lol:

Joachimstaler Platz  Streetview Link (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=berlin&hl=en&ll=52.503527,13.331244&spn=0.003612,0.015739&hnear=Berlin,+Germany&gl=us&t=m&layer=c&cbll=52.50353,13.331244&panoid=kEHybfikOV8zU036oj0Sgg&cbp=11,244.1,,1,1.39&z=17)

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u513/supah3ro/ScreenShot2012-12-02at84044AM.png)

I hope this pitstop is a prelude to a leg at the Santa Claus Village in Finland.
I think of that, too since its already Christmas right now and only few remaining legs left and that few remaining legs might probably be a Christmas and New Year's Day theme.  After Berlin and probably Finland they might also go to these place:

1) Galve goat in Galve, Sweden which it was a traditional to that city for erecting a giant goat during Christmas for almost 50 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat

2) A visit to Scotland where a Scottish poet, Robert Burns wrote a famous song during a New Year's Day celebration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Burns
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 02, 2012, 01:51:13 PM
So this is what we have so far it appears.

1. French Polynesia
2. French Polynesia
3. New Zealand
4. Indonesia
5. Vietnam
6. Vietnam
7. Botswana
8. ???
9. Switzerland
10. Germany
11. ???
12. USA (obviously)

Theories I have for legs 8 and eventually 11:
a. Second leg in Botswana, other country in Europe
b. leg in South Africa/Namibia, second leg in Germany (i hope  :hrt:)

Here is my guess:

Leg   Country
1   French Polynesia
2   French Polynesia
3   New Zealand
4   Indonesia
5   Vietnam
6   Vietnam
7   Botswana
8   Botswana
9   Switzerland & Germany
10   Gibraltar
11   London England
12   USA

It's not very likely for London to be visited again because of the season 7 and season 17 surrounding areas route. My theory is leg 11 will take place in Scotland agreeing with topaz, the last time teams visited Scottie was in TAR3 after reading the route on Wikipedia and it was only in Stonehaven, barely any Aberdeen except for transportation services. There's so much more of Scotland to uncover.

As for the mystery Botswana? leg, very likely as there was barely any information about the 8th leg. If it went to Switzerland, at least one person would have social networked about a sighting in a total of three to five days than a one leg visit. Rural leg habits.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on December 02, 2012, 02:05:16 PM
But they went to Athens after the Olympics, and to Beijing after the Olympics too; so there's a very good chance that they continue the pattern with London.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on December 02, 2012, 05:09:49 PM

 :lol:  Looks like racers in Berlin are running past a store with "Global Blue" Tax Free shoping. (note flag)

(http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/bd1a2ee43cc211e2bbe622000a9f1270_7.jpg)

Here's a link to Global Blue web site (it has a store finder).  Good luck searching.   :lol3:

http://www.global-blue.com/
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 02, 2012, 05:23:46 PM
Its near Alexendraplatz so would that narrow it down?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2012, 05:23:56 PM
WhooHoo! Is this the couple that supposedly we hadn't seen since Bali? ?? Good for them!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 02, 2012, 05:25:02 PM
That looks like team pink/tan last seen in Hanoi <3
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/mfpink.png)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2012, 05:26:58 PM
Thanks! I couldn't remember.  :-[
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on December 02, 2012, 07:53:11 PM
Its near Alexendraplatz so would that narrow it down?

 :lol:  saw a "WMF" in the store window, so did a Global Blue search in the Alexanderplatz area and came up with two shops close by.  Who the hell knows if this has anything to do with anything....   :lol3:  :duno:  :groan:

Edited to add: According to new data in the "Sightings thread". it appears that the racers were near the WMF store on Karl-Liebknecht Strasse.  (HA! got it even without the additional info!  Way to go, me!)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Boingo on December 02, 2012, 08:55:54 PM

 :yess:  street view of WMF store near Alexanderplatz
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on December 03, 2012, 01:57:07 AM
'girls were brunettes and their letters were n/u and r.

ROLLER DERBY MOM GODDESSES <333333333333333
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on December 03, 2012, 06:53:12 AM
Here is the Berlin Pit Stop location:  Note that it was not Christmastime when the Streetview shot was taken!   :lol:

Joachimstaler Platz  Streetview Link (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=berlin&hl=en&ll=52.503527,13.331244&spn=0.003612,0.015739&hnear=Berlin,+Germany&gl=us&t=m&layer=c&cbll=52.50353,13.331244&panoid=kEHybfikOV8zU036oj0Sgg&cbp=11,244.1,,1,1.39&z=17)

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u513/supah3ro/ScreenShot2012-12-02at84044AM.png)

I hope this pitstop is a prelude to a leg at the Santa Claus Village in Finland.
I think of that, too since its already Christmas right now and only few remaining legs left and that few remaining legs might probably be a Christmas and New Year's Day theme.  After Berlin and probably Finland they might also go to these place:

1) Galve goat in Galve, Sweden which it was a traditional to that city for erecting a giant goat during Christmas for almost 50 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat

2) A visit to Scotland where a Scottish poet, Robert Burns wrote a famous song during a New Year's Day celebration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Burns
If your thinking Scotland and Christmas/New Years Day theme it's probably more likely to be Edinburgh with the Hogmany Street party hosting 80 thousand people in the middle of the city and the Loony Dook in the Firth of Forth on New Years day. Plus you have the Castle, Grayfriers Bobby, Artuhur's Seat, Scottish Parliment, lots of supposedly haunted streets under the city and the Zoo.

May have to take a wonder into the city tonight just to see if there are any signs of the race.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on December 03, 2012, 01:00:31 PM
If what is to be believed about Edinburgh is true, then it is going to be absolutely AMAZING! It's such a pretty city, especially at Winter!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on December 03, 2012, 01:03:07 PM
If your thinking Scotland and Christmas/New Years Day theme it's probably more likely to be Edinburgh with the Hogmany Street party hosting 80 thousand people in the middle of the city and the Loony Dook in the Firth of Forth on New Years day. Plus you have the Castle, Grayfriers Bobby, Artuhur's Seat, Scottish Parliment, lots of supposedly haunted streets under the city and the Zoo.

May have to take a wonder into the city tonight just to see if there are any signs of the race.


GO Mattjimf..!!  :hoot: :wohoo:

*fingers-crossed* if they went to Edingburh and we have on-the ground team  :hrt:

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on December 03, 2012, 01:45:34 PM
nvm
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on December 03, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
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maybe Norway

Direct 8 (#D8) is the French channel that has been broadcasting TAR and they have been through Brazil, this season.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 03, 2012, 07:09:48 PM
So Meghan is back on Twitter posting pictures..  :cmas18
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 03, 2012, 07:53:49 PM
So Meghan is back on Twitter posting pictures..  :cmas18

It must be someone doing it for her. Even if her team was eliminated from the race, they wouldn't let her back on social media or the internet until the race has ended.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 03, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
Oh okay.. but shes in it but I guess shes worked a lot into her and joeys cover up <#

Do we have any end city spec yet? :cmaslol

sry ignore me
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 03, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
End city spec is like start line spec, for safety we try to avoid saying where anyone WILL be.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: GMR 602 on December 04, 2012, 01:20:15 AM
This was in the papers today:

John Brunton of Toronto-based Insight Productions.

Brunton was talking to the Star from “somewhere in the world” while on secret location with the current season of the U.S. Amazing Race.

After the project was green-lighted by CTV programming president Phil King last Friday, Brunton hopped on a plane on Saturday to be on location for the finale of the American show.

“I wanted to see how the heck they operate this thing. I’ve never seen a show with so many moving parts and so much unpredictability,” said Brunton, at times shouting over the noise from what was obviously a busy street.

“You have no idea what’s going to happen or what the timing is, what the weather is, who’s going to get lost.”

Brunton said he’d already been on seven locations. We momentarily lost contact after he had to avoid bumping into one of four remaining teams who were running toward him. He ducked into a quiet alleyway to hear his phone.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on December 04, 2012, 09:02:24 AM
If your thinking Scotland and Christmas/New Years Day theme it's probably more likely to be Edinburgh with the Hogmany Street party hosting 80 thousand people in the middle of the city and the Loony Dook in the Firth of Forth on New Years day. Plus you have the Castle, Grayfriers Bobby, Artuhur's Seat, Scottish Parliment, lots of supposedly haunted streets under the city and the Zoo.

May have to take a wonder into the city tonight just to see if there are any signs of the race.
Wow Edinburgh, really hope it is true. Then London in leg 11 and have Washington D.C. as the end city!!!!

GO Mattjimf..!!  :hoot: :wohoo:

*fingers-crossed* if they went to Edingburh and we have on-the ground team  :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on December 04, 2012, 09:56:51 AM
It is possible that they could get a flight out of Edinburgh via Amsterdam/London to US or a flight from Glasgow to the US direct (into Newark, there was a flight at 9am GMT today, next being on Thursday at same time).

If they arrived in Edinburgh on Monday, pit stop monday night, Tuesday travel to roadblock/detour (maybe St Andrews for a Golf thing possibly up to Stonehaven for the switchback at Dunotter Castle or across to Glasgow. Wednesday flight back to US via London/Amsterdam.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on December 04, 2012, 10:01:07 AM
It is possible that they could get a flight out of Edinburgh via Amsterdam/London to US or a flight from Glasgow to the US direct (into Newark, there was a flight at 9am GMT today, next being on Thursday at same time).

If they arrived in Edinburgh on Monday, pit stop monday night, Tuesday travel to roadblock/detour (maybe St Andrews for a Golf thing possibly up to Stonehaven for the switchback at Dunotter Castle or across to Glasgow. Wednesday flight back to US via London/Amsterdam.

I really hope that London is the next city before End city. Since they have done France - New York twice!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: dpe on December 05, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
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don't know if this means Boston..?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on December 05, 2012, 10:37:56 AM
Here is the Berlin Pit Stop location:  Note that it was not Christmastime when the Streetview shot was taken!   :lol:

Joachimstaler Platz  Streetview Link (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=berlin&hl=en&ll=52.503527,13.331244&spn=0.003612,0.015739&hnear=Berlin,+Germany&gl=us&t=m&layer=c&cbll=52.50353,13.331244&panoid=kEHybfikOV8zU036oj0Sgg&cbp=11,244.1,,1,1.39&z=17)

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u513/supah3ro/ScreenShot2012-12-02at84044AM.png)

I hope this pitstop is a prelude to a leg at the Santa Claus Village in Finland.
I think of that, too since its already Christmas right now and only few remaining legs left and that few remaining legs might probably be a Christmas and New Year's Day theme.  After Berlin and probably Finland they might also go to these place:

1) Galve goat in Galve, Sweden which it was a traditional to that city for erecting a giant goat during Christmas for almost 50 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A4vle_goat

2) A visit to Scotland where a Scottish poet, Robert Burns wrote a famous song during a New Year's Day celebration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Burns
If your thinking Scotland and Christmas/New Years Day theme it's probably more likely to be Edinburgh with the Hogmany Street party hosting 80 thousand people in the middle of the city and the Loony Dook in the Firth of Forth on New Years day. Plus you have the Castle, Grayfriers Bobby, Artuhur's Seat, Scottish Parliment, lots of supposedly haunted streets under the city and the Zoo.

May have to take a wonder into the city tonight just to see if there are any signs of the race.

Can`t believe they go to Berlin, without going to Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church and Alexanderplatz!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 05, 2012, 10:46:08 AM
They visited Alexanderplatz

And just a suggestion when quoting pictures please remove them to avoid clogging threads.  :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on December 05, 2012, 10:56:05 AM
They visited Alexanderplatz

And just a suggestion when quoting pictures please remove them to avoid clogging threads.  :cmas16

Okay sorry about that!!!!

Could not find Alexanderplatz or Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church in The Timeline!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on December 05, 2012, 04:45:27 PM
Thanks to Caper:

--xxxx  Pretty sure I just saw two amazing race contestants running down the street in belfast! Very exciting!!! 4 hours ago

-- xxxx I really wish we could have chased them down the street. We were sitting in a restaurant when they went running past - quite fun to watch!
31 minutes ago via mobile..

This is not the first reference to Belfast that I see! I'm going back to fetch what I read before...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on December 05, 2012, 04:55:48 PM
Could be right, we know they were spotted in cars, so could have driven across to the west coast of Scotland, then got a ferry across to Belfast from either Cairnryan or Troon.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Xarles on December 05, 2012, 04:58:27 PM
This is the NIE building at the Belfast docks. As NIE was mentioned in LIVE thread.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 05, 2012, 04:59:17 PM
Wait, Edinburgh/Scotland/UK is confirmed??
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on December 05, 2012, 05:03:34 PM
If they were near the docks, could have had something to do with the Titanic as it's 100 years since the voyage and it was built there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 05, 2012, 05:05:40 PM
 Might be Hanoi/or Botswana were one leg
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on December 05, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
Wait, Edinburgh/Scotland/UK is confirmed??

Check the live sighting thread, detailed ID of car and American film crew.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 05, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
Did we get PICTURES??? :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on December 05, 2012, 07:10:55 PM
Thanks to Caper:

--xxxx  Pretty sure I just saw two amazing race contestants running down the street in belfast! Very exciting!!! 4 hours ago

-- xxxx I really wish we could have chased them down the street. We were sitting in a restaurant when they went running past - quite fun to watch!
31 minutes ago via mobile..

If they are self-driving and in Belfast, this could mean flights back to the US from Shannon.

Probably not, Shannon only connects to JFK and Newark.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 05, 2012, 08:25:55 PM
Thanks to Caper:

--xxxx  Pretty sure I just saw two amazing race contestants running down the street in belfast! Very exciting!!! 4 hours ago

-- xxxx I really wish we could have chased them down the street. We were sitting in a restaurant when they went running past - quite fun to watch!
31 minutes ago via mobile..

If they are self-driving and in Belfast, this could mean flights back to the US from Shannon.

Probably not, Shannon only connects to JFK and Newark.

Does Belfast have direct flights to usa?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on December 05, 2012, 08:32:40 PM
Pure spec,

for whatever reason, if edinburgh turns out to be our TAR route, then there might be some sort of connection on why the pit stop is at berlin christmas market...

maybe it's the clue to their next destination, because in Edinburgh, there is also a German Christmas Market happening too!!  :ascared


weihnachtsmarkt : Berlin Christmas Market (Alexanderplatz)


(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/RFF%20Stuff/xmas3.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/RFF%20Stuff/xmas4.jpg)



weihnachtsmarkt : German Christmas Market (Edinburgh, United Kingdom)


(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/RFF%20Stuff/xmas2.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/RFF%20Stuff/xmas1.jpg)




and if teams were driving, there's a possibility for 3hrs30mins drive to the Loch Ness lake.... maybe pit stop  :cmas19




Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on December 05, 2012, 08:59:15 PM
If they were near the docks, could have had something to do with the Titanic as it's 100 years since the voyage and it was built there.
from :MC: to I'm The King of The World!!!  :hearts:  Yup, and there's one place in Belfast that have a museum dedicated to that ship: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_Belfast  And probably the 4 remaining teams will have a moment of silence there in commemoration to the victims of the sinking of Titanic that happened a hundred years ago before they'll resume their leg. :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: topaz on December 05, 2012, 09:09:46 PM
Might be Hanoi/or Botswana were one leg
I do believe there are 2 legs in Botswana, or they went to Zambia/Namibia after that.  So, these might be my speculations for the TAR 22 legs:

Leg 1: Los Angeles to Tahiti
Leg 2: Tahiti to Bora Bora
Leg 3: Bora Bora to Queenstown, New Zealand
Leg 4: Queenstown, New Zealand to Bali, Indonesia
Leg 5: Bali, Indonesia to Hanoi, Vietnam
Leg 6: Hanoi, Vietnam to Botswana
Leg 7: Botswana/Namibia/Zambia
Leg 8: Botswana/Namibia/Zambia to Jungfrau, Switzerland
Leg 9: Jungfrau, Switzerland to Berlin, Germany
Leg 10: Berlin, Germany to Edinburgh, Scotland
Leg 11: Edinburgh, Scotland to Belfast, NI
Leg 12: Belfast, NI to Boston or Washington DC

And sadly there's no new country that'll visit for TAR 22, and even my country, Philippines didn't visit as well just like the previous season.  And that's sucks!!! (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: weihen on December 05, 2012, 09:21:40 PM
It's possible that they did a task in Edinburgh,then move to Belfast to continue racing.like TAR20 Leg11 in Japan.
I still think Hanoi will have 2 legs.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: amazing race fan on December 05, 2012, 09:27:02 PM
Pure Spec, but if Northern Ireland is true, I wouldn't be surprised to see some type of Golf detour or road block. For such a small country, its amazing how good some of the golfers they produce are. Just like TAR visiting Rafa Nadal's tennis courts in Spain, I think we might see something similar with the home town of Rory McIlroy. Its not like there is an incredible amount of things Northern Ireland is more well known for.

Besides, how cool would it be for a clue to say head to Hollywood for the contestants to think they are headed back to the United States instead to later find out that Hollywood is a town in Northern Ireland.

Just a thought on a possible roadblock or detour.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on December 05, 2012, 11:42:09 PM
Might be Hanoi/or Botswana were one leg
I do believe there are 2 legs in Botswana, or they went to Zambia/Namibia after that.  So, these might be my speculations for the TAR 22 legs:

Leg 1: Los Angeles to Tahiti
Leg 2: Tahiti to Bora Bora
Leg 3: Bora Bora to Queenstown, New Zealand
Leg 4: Queenstown, New Zealand to Bali, Indonesia
Leg 5: Bali, Indonesia to Hanoi, Vietnam
Leg 6: Hanoi, Vietnam to Botswana
Leg 7: Botswana/Namibia/Zambia
Leg 8: Botswana/Namibia/Zambia to Jungfrau, Switzerland
Leg 9: Jungfrau, Switzerland to Berlin, Germany
Leg 10: Berlin, Germany to Edinburgh, Scotland
Leg 11: Edinburgh, Scotland to Belfast, NI
Leg 12: Belfast, NI to Boston or Washington DC

And sadly there's no new country that'll visit for TAR 22, and even my country, Philippines didn't visit as well just like the previous season.  And that's sucks!!! (:;)

There is a new country this season. Its French Polynesia  :cmas22
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 05, 2012, 11:45:06 PM
and northern ireland :b
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 06, 2012, 12:48:32 AM
and northern ireland :b

Have they ever been to Botswana or Scotland before?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 06, 2012, 12:53:35 AM
Botswana- TAR7
Scotland- TAR3 Leg3p2

we have a lot of TAR3 actually. Vietnam, Switz, Germany, Scotland.. :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on December 06, 2012, 01:13:47 AM
Botswana was visited in season 1, leg 2 as one half of a detour. It was during that part of that leg after teams left Songwe Village and before teams went back to Johannesburg to get flights to Paris.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 06, 2012, 01:18:51 AM
Thanks to Caper:

--xxxx  Pretty sure I just saw two amazing race contestants running down the street in belfast! Very exciting!!! 4 hours ago

-- xxxx I really wish we could have chased them down the street. We were sitting in a restaurant when they went running past - quite fun to watch!
31 minutes ago via mobile..

If they are self-driving and in Belfast, this could mean flights back to the US from Shannon.

Probably not, Shannon only connects to JFK and Newark.

Does Belfast have direct flights to usa?

The only direct flights are to Newark on United (connect to anywhere from EWR) and seasonal service to Orlando-Sanford on Monarch.  The other airport in Belfast is George Best Belfast City Airport, which has flights to connect thru Heathrow and Gatwick to the US from there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 06, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
Botswana was visited in season 1, leg 2 as one half of a detour. It was during that part of that leg after teams left Songwe Village and before teams went back to Johannesburg to get flights to Paris.

I was going to say that too but noticed they did 2 legs in S7 as well.

I don't think any teams took that side of the detour though
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: GMR 602 on December 06, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
could this be....a 13 leg race?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on December 06, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
Botswana was visited in season 1, leg 2 as one half of a detour. It was during that part of that leg after teams left Songwe Village and before teams went back to Johannesburg to get flights to Paris.

I was going to say that too but noticed they did 2 legs in S7 as well.

I don't think any teams took that side of the detour though

I don't think they did either, but I remember the wood sign with "Botswana" on it that was used to show where that half of the detour was.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Zack. on December 06, 2012, 02:52:52 PM
Could we get a finish in Orlando maybe?

There's not much daylight time right now to run a final leg if it hasn't already started or finished (and if that were the case I think there would be a sign) so it would more than likely start tomorrow morning. The main issue is that in most metropolitan areas on the East coast, Friday mornings are particularly busy so the chance of sightings go up visibly. Orlando, and more specifically, the theme parks around Orlando, are less crowded this time of year plus they could easily close down parts of theme parks to house tasks or the finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on December 06, 2012, 02:54:59 PM
could this be....a 13 leg race?
GMR, I strongly doubt it. I think its more likely one of the countries currently thought as two legs might be just one leg.

And to follow up Peach's comment in the live sightings thread, given the time right now, I think it's highly unlikely to be today simply because the trans-Atlantic flight window for flights to arrive at east coast airports by tonight is closing.
And I believe many of the international airports along the east coast generally have a "curfew" of sorts as to not having middle of the night departures or arrivals if the approach lanes go over residential areas.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 06, 2012, 03:34:27 PM
If it was today, it would be finishing/finished by now. Still thinking tomorrow, but with some uncertainty, want everyone alert.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 06, 2012, 10:16:01 PM
Checking the Belfast Int'l Airport live scheduled flights, possible End Cities can be:

Belfast Flight Departure - Destination:
9:10 United Airlines - Newark, New Jersey (hope they drive AWAY from New York, :lol:)
9:50 EZY - Birmingham, Alabama (possible choice)

Connections from Manchester skipping NY:
9:55 A LOT! - Chicago, Illinois :luvya: HOMECITY LOVE :luvya: (we need a better Chicago finish than pizza)
10:05 DL065 - Atlanta (no thanks, but not very likely anyways)
10:55 US735 - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (possible choice)

Too intimidating live flight info for London. :lol: :gnome
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 06, 2012, 10:59:23 PM
To make London Heathrow less daunting... I'm just going to list the possible U.S. flights in the 8:40 (8:00 and 10:00 Belfast arrival) to 12:00 timeframe.


Starting at 8:40; Dallas, Texas / Newark, New Jersey / Baltimore, Maryland / New York / Washington DC (District of Columbia) / Philadelphia, Pennsylvania / :cmas9 DENVER, COLORADO :cmas9 / Miami, Florida / Houston, Texas / Atlanta, Georgia

Second Belfast wave along with consideration of previous flights; :xmas146 CHICAGO, ILLINOIS :xmas146 / San Francisco, California / Los Angeles, California / Seattle, Washington

------------------------
KEY:
Bolded: Highly considerable
Underlined: Considerable with some doubt
U, I, B font styled: MUST VISIT :lol:
No style: Not that considerable, less wanted
Slashed: Not even going there...
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Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on December 06, 2012, 11:30:41 PM
Checking the Belfast Int'l Airport live scheduled flights, possible End Cities can be:

Belfast Flight Departure - Destination:
9:10 United Airlines - Newark, New Jersey (hope they drive AWAY from New York, :lol:)
9:50 EZY - Birmingham, Alabama (possible choice)

I didn't find either of these flights in the Flightstats database for Dec 6/7, 2012. I did see a flight to Newark at 11:10am. Are you sure that flight to Birmingham is not Birmingham ENGLAND.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tarflyonthewall on December 06, 2012, 11:50:05 PM
I'm definitely on the "either Hanoi or Tahiti is only one leg, or we finally have 13 legs again" bandwagon too.

Even if it's Scotland instead of England, there's no way on Earth the government of Northern Ireland lets the producers in if they're planning on spending half of the episode in the rest of the UK. So if those two are both true, they're separate legs.

Maun is too much of a dogleg in the route to spend only one leg in the region. To put it into context, going from Hanoi to Maun to (probably) Zurich in two legs is roughly the same as going from Okinawa to Baghdad via New York. It doesn't really matter whether the other leg down there is in Johannesburg or Gaborone or Windhoek or Livingstone or Harare, but combined with the show's budget there has to be another leg in southern Africa to make it worthwhile.

So that's four legs (at least). Switzerland and Berlin are definitely separate, as are Christchurch and Bali for eight. Add the US finale makes nine, and we have to somehow fit the four legs currently allotted to Hanoi and Tahiti into three. My guess is Tahiti is only one leg due to cost (seriously, that island is all-caps EXPENSIVE), probably with a 'camp on the streets' opening night bunch/separation like the old seasons, and we're getting two in Hanoi (which is officially the cheapest city in Asia for backpackers to visit at the moment).

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on December 07, 2012, 12:01:51 AM
I'm definitely on the "either Hanoi or Tahiti is only one leg, or we finally have 13 legs again" bandwagon too.

Even if it's Scotland instead of England, there's no way on Earth the government of Northern Ireland lets the producers in if they're planning on spending half of the episode in the rest of the UK. So if those two are both true, they're separate legs.

Maun is too much of a dogleg in the route to spend only one leg in the region. To put it into context, going from Hanoi to Maun to (probably) Zurich in two legs is roughly the same as going from Okinawa to Baghdad via New York. It doesn't really matter whether the other leg down there is in Johannesburg or Gaborone or Windhoek or Livingstone or Harare, but combined with the show's budget there has to be another leg in southern Africa to make it worthwhile.

So that's four legs (at least). Switzerland and Berlin are definitely separate, as are Christchurch and Bali for eight. Add the US finale makes nine, and we have to somehow fit the four legs currently allotted to Hanoi and Tahiti into three. My guess is Tahiti is only one leg due to cost (seriously, that island is all-caps EXPENSIVE), probably with a 'camp on the streets' opening night bunch/separation like the old seasons, and we're getting two in Hanoi (which is officially the cheapest city in Asia for backpackers to visit at the moment).

Tahiti was confirmed to be 2 legs by KiwiJay when he asked teams in Christchurch
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tarflyonthewall on December 07, 2012, 12:29:07 AM
So two in Tahiti and one in Hanoi? Seems like the only way to make the route work, unless there's a false spoiler in here somewhere.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: GMR 602 on December 07, 2012, 12:33:40 AM
I'm definitely on the "either Hanoi or Tahiti is only one leg, or we finally have 13 legs again" bandwagon too.

Even if it's Scotland instead of England, there's no way on Earth the government of Northern Ireland lets the producers in if they're planning on spending half of the episode in the rest of the UK. So if those two are both true, they're separate legs.

Maun is too much of a dogleg in the route to spend only one leg in the region. To put it into context, going from Hanoi to Maun to (probably) Zurich in two legs is roughly the same as going from Okinawa to Baghdad via New York. It doesn't really matter whether the other leg down there is in Johannesburg or Gaborone or Windhoek or Livingstone or Harare, but combined with the show's budget there has to be another leg in southern Africa to make it worthwhile.

So that's four legs (at least). Switzerland and Berlin are definitely separate, as are Christchurch and Bali for eight. Add the US finale makes nine, and we have to somehow fit the four legs currently allotted to Hanoi and Tahiti into three. My guess is Tahiti is only one leg due to cost (seriously, that island is all-caps EXPENSIVE), probably with a 'camp on the streets' opening night bunch/separation like the old seasons, and we're getting two in Hanoi (which is officially the cheapest city in Asia for backpackers to visit at the moment).

The last 3 times they went to Vietnam, they spent two legs there....

lets hope for a 13 leg race..the timing is right...and it feels right too!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: tarflyonthewall on December 07, 2012, 01:38:50 AM
Then again, the last three times they went to mainland China they had two legs as well.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: weihen on December 07, 2012, 04:53:04 AM
They also never had 2 legs in UK...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Flamant on December 07, 2012, 08:36:34 AM
They also never spent less than three legs in Asia when circumnavigating the globe...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Genius on December 07, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Botswana was visited in season 1, leg 2 as one half of a detour. It was during that part of that leg after teams left Songwe Village and before teams went back to Johannesburg to get flights to Paris.

I was going to say that too but noticed they did 2 legs in S7 as well.

I don't think any teams took that side of the detour though

Oh wow, I never noticed that part about TAR1. I only remembered Phil saying at the finish line that Rob and Brennan visited 8 countries. So in reality, it would have been a season featuring 11 countries, including South Africa (for just 1 clue), Botswana and and the Vatican. What a pity that teams didn't visit Botswana and the Vatican.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on December 07, 2012, 11:50:18 AM
While we wait to see if those tweets supposedly in D.C. pan out, I wanted to post a link to a news article that reports of rioting in Belfast, Northern Ireland even as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived there for a visit
http://news.yahoo.com/flag-riots-mar-hillary-clintons-visit-belfast-150434556.html (http://news.yahoo.com/flag-riots-mar-hillary-clintons-visit-belfast-150434556.html)
The incidents have been ongoing for a week, and the latest rioting started on Thursday night. We know that the show likes to avoid trouble spots whenever possible, and this may require us to assess the possibility of a last minute change in filming.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZBC Company on December 07, 2012, 11:58:04 AM
D.C OMG  HELL YES
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on December 07, 2012, 12:34:15 PM
So after reading what georgiapeach said, does this mean the Hockey Players, Winnie and Cam, possibly the blondes (can't make out who is in that 2nd picture) aren't in the final 3?

Edit : or is that the roller derby girls?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
We'll have to sort all that out.

I just KNOW that decoys are used extensively IN the airports, so let's not jump to any team conclusions just yet.

Info from the locations will be more helpful.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: amazinglatinoamericafan on December 07, 2012, 12:44:42 PM
So after reading what georgiapeach said, does this mean the Hockey Players, Winnie and Cam, possibly the blondes (can't make out who is in that 2nd picture) aren't in the final 3?

Edit : or is that the roller derby girls?


WHY THE BlONDEs and Winnie AND CAM...?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on December 07, 2012, 12:57:24 PM
The two tweets in the live threads with locations (buildings) mentioned away from airports are not far from one another; teams could be using the D.C. Metro Subway system to get to that general area as well as taxis.
The taxi system in D.C. is flat rate depending on zone(s) for travel, so teams may be using either option, IMHO.
And clearly someone at WRP spent a lot of time with the Secret Service, the National Park Police, and the G.S.A. to pull this off. The physical security buffers are always there in downtown D.C.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2012, 01:01:29 PM
They are using taxis.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 07, 2012, 01:15:14 PM
Roller Derby defs decoy, look at the shoes.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on December 07, 2012, 02:43:54 PM
The two tweets in the live threads with locations (buildings) mentioned away from airports are not far from one another; teams could be using the D.C. Metro Subway system to get to that general area as well as taxis.
The taxi system in D.C. is flat rate depending on zone(s) for travel, so teams may be using either option, IMHO.
And clearly someone at WRP spent a lot of time with the Secret Service, the National Park Police, and the G.S.A. to pull this off. The physical security buffers are always there in downtown D.C.


It is not easy to use the DC Metro system to get from Dulles to downtown Washington DC. One alternative is the tri-modal Washingon Flyer limo to bus at West Falls Church in direction New Carrollton, then connect to subway there into DC. Another alternative is the 5A bus route that runs every 40 minutes and stops 34 minutes later in Rosslyn, where teams could get the Orange or Blue MARTA trains or 47 minutes later at D St. and 7th Avenue.
To me the simple answer is "take a taxi."
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on December 07, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
apskip, I'm not referring to the trip from Dulles, but once in town; although the Metro system is currently building a subway extension out to and past Dulles airport along Virginia Route 7 (the "Silver Line.")

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 07, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
Some spec,

I was told he saw 3 teams, The Tan Guy/GF , Beth/Mona, and Hockey. He said he DID see cameras, and one of them pushed him apparently.

But but but the pics show no cameras for Roller/Hockey.. so.. **Spec time

11/10th: Matt/Daniel & Jamil & Idries
9th: Green Muscle Shirt/GF

Other teams seen..
Connor/Dave: Last seen in Bali(Safe to Vietnam)
Joey/Meghan: Last seen in Bali(Safe to Vietnam)
Winnie/Cam: Last seen in Bali(Safe to Vietnam)
Chuck/Wynona: Last seen going to Botswana
Jennifer/Caroline: Last seen going to Botswana(Seen in Edinburgh too possibly)
Tan Guy/Blonde Girl: Last seen going to Botswana(Seen in DC airport, possible F3)
Beth/Mona: 6th and up(Decoy in DC)
Anthony/Bates: 6th and up(Decoy in DC)

so I think that Connor/Dave and Joey/Meghan go before Europe(I think 8th/7th) and then we have a final 3 combo o Jennifer/Caroline, Chuck/Wynona, Winnie/Cam and Tan Guy/Blonde girl)


Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on December 07, 2012, 03:53:17 PM
The tan guy and blonde girl were last seen transporting letters in Berlin, where he didn't look all that tan to me.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 07, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
The tan guy and blonde girl were last seen transporting letters in Berlin, where he didn't look all that tan to me.

Well its mainly derived from this picture on the right  :cmaslol with his sunglasses tan 8)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/xmfpink.png)

but that was the team he said saw in IAD.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: north09 on December 07, 2012, 04:07:16 PM
The tan guy and blonde girl were last seen transporting letters in Berlin, where he didn't look all that tan to me.

Well its mainly derived from this picture on the right  :cmaslol with his sunglasses tan 8)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/domel9/xmfpink.png)

but that was the team he said saw in IAD.

I know, and thats the weird thing. In the other two pictures we have of him he isn't tan. I guess we'll find out when the team is identified.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jiajia12 on December 07, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
They don't always have camera in airport for the finale,but probably by the taxis, we see in episodes all the time,
besides its the final episode, we don't really need scenes from the airport,its like Jen/Kisha BigEasy/Flightime all over again :cmas5 Hockey boys should be F3,Mona/Beth could be too
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 07, 2012, 04:54:29 PM
Okay so I'm *guessing* this is the leg layout

1. Bora Bora
2. Bora Bora
3. Christchurch
4. Bali
5. Vietnam
6. Botswana
7. Botswana
8. Switzerland
9. Germany
10. Northern Ireland
11. London
12. Washington DC

OR New Zealand/Bali is the return of the TBC leg and NZ/Bali is 1 leg, explains the NEL and no rest stop,a nd allows Vietnam to be 2 legs..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ZouLy on December 07, 2012, 05:01:26 PM

OR New Zealand/Bali is the return of the TBC leg and NZ/Bali is 1 leg, explains the NEL and no rest stop,a nd allows Vietnam to be 2 legs..

quite possible...!   :cmas16


Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TSPKM on December 07, 2012, 05:59:56 PM
So after reading what georgiapeach said, does this mean the Hockey Players, Winnie and Cam, possibly the blondes (can't make out who is in that 2nd picture) aren't in the final 3?

Edit : or is that the roller derby girls?

according to the guy that posted in the live sightings thread, the blondes had a camera crew with them, they just didnt look to be in a hurry. Camera crew being there is telling, perception of being in a hurry is not.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on December 07, 2012, 06:36:59 PM
Thanks to stroche's pictures, we may have our F3  :cmas18
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 07, 2012, 06:55:19 PM
Can't believe they are Switchbacking to the best task on Family Edition <3
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: chal_uf on December 07, 2012, 07:07:56 PM
Based On stroche's picture and whammo's post.. I Think brunette girls and tan guy/blonde girl on F3.. And maybe the other one is F/F Blonde girl  :cmas30:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: weihen on December 07, 2012, 11:24:47 PM
Is this the girl who stroche referred to blonde F/F team(keep talking to production during RB)?
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2021/FINALE/pics%20by%20Stroche%2012-7-12/2012-12-07_165843.jpg)
I think she is one racer from Beth and Mona(you can compare from other pics)
(https://instagr.am/p/S8cdxxFEI_/media/?size=l)

still think F3:Hocky players(we know they had camera crew too from  stroche),M/F team,Beth and Mona.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: graytex on December 08, 2012, 09:47:43 AM
According to the Mount Vernon event calendar yesterday:

"Mount Vernon Estate, Museum & Gardens will close early at 12 p.m. due to a private event."

Sounds like a very likely finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TSPKM on December 08, 2012, 12:54:20 PM
Is this the girl who stroche referred to blonde F/F team(keep talking to production during RB)?
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2021/FINALE/pics%20by%20Stroche%2012-7-12/2012-12-07_165843.jpg)
I think she is one racer from Beth and Mona(you can compare from other pics)
(https://instagr.am/p/S8cdxxFEI_/media/?size=l)

still think F3:Hocky players(we know they had camera crew too from  stroche),M/F team,Beth and Mona.

she is clearly brunette, and stroche saw brunettes as well. I've seen no evidence of the hockey players having a film crew, they also looked like in the pics they werent taking it seriously. I think it's wishful thinking for the hockey players to be final 3.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: weihen on December 08, 2012, 08:00:47 PM
she is clearly brunette, and stroche saw brunettes as well. I've seen no evidence of the hockey players having a film crew, they also looked like in the pics they werent taking it seriously. I think it's wishful thinking for the hockey players to be final 3.

  After seeing the Roadblock, I came back to Nats Park and clue box was set up at main gate and the hockey team ran out slowly, carrying their briefcase and leaving their camer and sound guy far behind, to their cab and hopped in to head out.  One of them commented "It was snug in that thing".  Again, they were running slow but they were the only team there at that time, and I knew that the other two teams were still back at the Roadblock.  Perhaps they knew they had a lead?  Production car followed them out of the park and onto the next destination.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 09, 2012, 06:32:06 PM
Holy crap Switz/Germany was one leg? :cmas18
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on December 09, 2012, 06:44:02 PM
Wasn't Leg 8 our mystery leg in TAR 21 as well?  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: BuuYaa on December 10, 2012, 04:57:31 AM
So excited in here!!!!

This season done taping right?  :cmas9

Can't wait. Hopefully better teams this season and longer route than previous season (25.000 miles are you kidding me.  :cmas4 Just three continents.  :cmas12)



Dave&Rachel are the best!
Gary&Mallory <3 <3 <3
Kris&Amanda should get a third chance !!!

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on December 10, 2012, 11:46:32 AM
Holy crap Switz/Germany was one leg? :cmas18
Interlaken/Berlin is way too far imo
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: IvarG on December 10, 2012, 04:24:40 PM
Here is my speculated boot list, using the info we have currently.
 
 
....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on December 10, 2012, 06:36:38 PM
Holy crap Switz/Germany was one leg? :cmas18
Interlaken/Berlin is way too far imo

Nope. It appears that Maun to Switzerland to Berlin was one leg.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on December 10, 2012, 08:26:23 PM
Welcome to RFF, IvarG!!!  :wel2

Your full speculated boot list isn't confirmed yet....check the live sightings thread.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on December 11, 2012, 01:45:23 AM
:welcome: to RFF, IvarG!

We are glad you found us and hope you will join in ALL the spoiler fun as we piece together teams, locations, tasks, and sightings!

Sent you a PM as well!



Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on December 11, 2012, 07:22:53 AM
Ya, I feel like it is really hard to come up with a boot list at this point.

The only 3ish confirmed eliminations are in the first few legs. The twin doctors and the firefighters (although we arent sure what order)

I think it was confirmed that the 3rd leg was a TBC or a nonelimination and that the 4th leg John and Jessica were eliminated (they were originally speculated to be safe for that round but upon further review, the eyewitness was able to confirm they were the last team to arrive and were eliminated. If that isn't the case, we will find out soon enough!  :cmas9 :cmas22 )

After this, nothing is really confirmed. There were some sightings of the different contestants in future legs, but with Non eliminations and TBC legs, it is hard to tell the boot order of the contestants
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on December 11, 2012, 01:51:54 PM
I'm wondering if we're seeing evidence of a double leg in here somewhere. If there is one that might help reconcile the problems we're having to get the locations that have been reported to fit into 12 legs, (I do mean 13 leg segments with 12 legs as opposed to 12 leg segments with 11 legs.)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Dom on December 11, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
I'm wondering if we're seeing evidence of a double leg in here somewhere. If there is one that might help reconcile the problems we're having to get the locations that have been reported to fit into 12 legs, (I do mean 13 leg segments with 12 legs as opposed to 12 leg segments with 11 legs.)

I think French Polynesia to NZ to Bali must have been a no-rest leg.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 11, 2012, 02:12:44 PM

OR New Zealand/Bali is the return of the TBC leg and NZ/Bali is 1 leg, explains the NEL and no rest stop,a nd allows Vietnam to be 2 legs..

quite possible...!   :cmas16

I was thinking that too.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Joeyengen on December 11, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
the roadblock task in D.C is a switchback task from TAR season 8  :cmas9  :cmas9  :cmas9  :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on December 11, 2012, 06:25:45 PM
the roadblock task in D.C is a switchback task from TAR season 8 

I suspect that by the time we watch the finale, it will just be ONE of the roadblock tasks in that leg.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: SoYoung on December 14, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
the roadblock task in D.C is a switchback task from TAR season 8  :cmas9  :cmas9  :cmas9  :cmas9

Is it the final roadblock?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on December 15, 2012, 05:03:34 PM
Now that the 11 Teams are fully identified, instead of getting bored until February 17th, let's find out what were the locations and tasks of the 11th leg in London   :cmas20  one of the world's biggest cities!  There's got to be some tweets or blogs.   :cmas5

This would have been on December 6th all day long.

GO!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Shelact on January 05, 2013, 08:34:45 PM
I don't think this has been mentioned at all.  This weeks TV Guide is a winter preview of the next seasons shows.  For The Amazing Race it says "The 22nd season introduces a startling new twist, which will be revealed by host Phil Keoghan a the the starting line in LA."   Startling new twist?   Do we know what is?   
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on January 05, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Could you give a reference or take a picture of the text?

*flurry of speculation*
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Shelact on January 05, 2013, 09:21:12 PM
I don't know how to take a picture of it but it is on page 32 of the Jan. 7 - 13 issue of TV Guide.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on January 05, 2013, 09:49:24 PM
Thanks!! Fun!!

If anyone can scan in the article, please do!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mug Costanza on January 07, 2013, 02:24:44 AM
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/Duvee/tar22tvguide_zpsf4b471ed.png)

Short and to the point... Well that's no fun! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Cocoa on January 07, 2013, 03:08:59 AM
omg hazard's back? lol
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Air on January 07, 2013, 04:36:25 AM
omg hazard's back? lol

NO. The end. Period. Full Stop. Bye.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on January 07, 2013, 07:08:46 AM
It might have been discussed already, but has anyone found anything peculiar at the Griffith Observatory other than the "do not cross signs"? I may have missed it.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on January 07, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
omg hazard's back? lol

LMFAO!

The Key word here is STARTLING not starting
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on January 07, 2013, 08:42:56 AM
This better be a real twist, not that shit from season 19 and 21.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on January 07, 2013, 10:12:24 AM
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/Duvee/tar22tvguide_zpsf4b471ed.png)

Short and to the point... Well that's no fun! :lol:

I can already answer this one!    :hoot:

We have the Express Pass as an accepted  and appreciated and sought after feature of TAR.  So that's not going away.     :wise   

At the end of the first leg, what would be even better than winning one?   ???

Well?  Winning two Express Passes of course!   :beer2:

But that may be just too simple.  And I have my reasons.  Let there be two EPs with the understanding that the second one has to be shared with another Team.  Simple!  Powerful!  Adds drama too.  TPTB probably got it from  one of mutlitude of  fantasy games  going on allover.  Can somebody check?  ;)  :popcorn:

The reason I can bring this up and speculate it with high confidence comes from  the spoiler information we have on Dave & Conner.  Here's my guess:   Dave does not actually hurt his Achilles Tendon.  He claims to have sustained the injury in order to garner sympathy from the other Teams.  In particular, sympathy from the Team that wins two Express Passes on the first leg.  So the EP is handed over, the ankle magically heals   :browsie:, and Dave & Conner are launched into a very advantageous position in the game.    One which may very well carry them to the final three.   :wtg:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Dom on January 07, 2013, 11:04:24 AM
I like the idea,  much better than the Salvage Pass. But faking an injury is surely going too far. Getting an ankle cast, crutches and a wheelchair just to theoretically improve your chances of skipping one task? Walking with a cast is akin to GIVING yourself a handicap, let alone faking one.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on January 07, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
Two Express Passes, that's really interesting!! :hearts:

Anyway, if your guessing is true, then they'll going to be a main target for being U-turned... :tantrum :tantrum
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: LoveRocked on January 07, 2013, 02:57:22 PM
OHHHHHH!!! It's must be interesting Season 22!!!!  TWO EXPRESS PASS? I LOVE IT!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on January 07, 2013, 04:24:34 PM
Maybe the twist is that there are NO express passes. That would be a twist I would love. More fast forwards, no express pass!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on January 07, 2013, 04:48:39 PM
Let's just hope it's not another SL elimination :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on January 07, 2013, 06:59:17 PM
I suspect we'll have more raw data or an explanation from Phil or CBS before we get to the 17th of February. And I suspect we'll have a confirmed cast announcement before we are in February.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on January 07, 2013, 08:53:22 PM
Maybe the twist is that there are NO express passes. That would be a twist I would love. More fast forwards, no express pass!
Back to basics! :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Genius on January 09, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
Maybe the new twist is that you can win some sort of immunity from all U-Turns. Of course, it doesn't guarantee that you can't be eliminated.

It could be also an extra of something, like an extra U-Turn to use.

I actually don't mind the idea of having a small penalty for being last to complete the first task at the starting line, but what we had in the last few seasons (instant elimination, Hazard, automatic U-Turn) do seem somewhat harsh. Maybe that team should be penalized 10% of the 1st leg's money or something.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on January 09, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
Maybe the new twist is that you can win some sort of immunity from all U-Turns. Of course, it doesn't guarantee that you can't be eliminated.

It could be also an extra of something, like an extra U-Turn to use.

I actually don't mind the idea of having a small penalty for being last to complete the first task at the starting line, but what we had in the last few seasons (instant elimination, Hazard, automatic U-Turn) do seem somewhat harsh. Maybe that team should be penalized 10% of the 1st leg's money or something.

After season 15 i think that they have learnt something, season 18 leg 1 non elimination and season 19 the samething. But then again season 19 had the awful double elimination on leg 2.

I think that they can win the Express Pass at the startline, and the Salvage Pass at the end.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on January 09, 2013, 05:35:53 PM
Triple Your Money? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2013, 10:38:32 PM

I can already answer this one!    :hoot:

We have the Express Pass as an accepted  and appreciated and sought after feature of TAR.  So that's not going away.     :wise   

At the end of the first leg, what would be even better than winning one?   ???

Well?  Winning two Express Passes of course!   :beer2:

But that may be just too simple.  And I have my reasons.  Let there be two EPs with the understanding that the second one has to be shared with another Team.  Simple!  Powerful!  Adds drama too.  TPTB probably got it from  one of mutlitude of  fantasy games  going on allover.  Can somebody check?  ;)  :popcorn:



Wonder how long they have to share? And what happens to the second Express Pass if that tem should be eliminated before sharing?

This will be FUN to see!

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on January 09, 2013, 10:45:27 PM
Are we sure of that? Cause i'm thinking about the first team to arrive on the first leg gets the chance to choose between double their money or the express pass. This determines the prize of the 2nd team to arrive on the first leg , or the prize for Leg2.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mug Costanza on January 09, 2013, 10:54:18 PM
Are we sure of that? Cause i'm thinking about the first team to arrive on the first leg gets the chance to choose between double their money or the express pass. This determines the prize of the 2nd team to arrive on the first leg , or the prize for Leg2.

Phil has said in interviews that there is no Double Your Money twist for TAR22.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on January 09, 2013, 10:57:19 PM
Are we sure of that? Cause i'm thinking about the first team to arrive on the first leg gets the chance to choose between double their money or the express pass. This determines the prize of the 2nd team to arrive on the first leg , or the prize for Leg2.

Phil has said in interviews that there is no Double Your Money twist for TAR22.

Oh wow , than i'll go with Chateau!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Oh wow , than i'll go with Chateau!

Always a good plan! ;)



except maybe in facial ID's, lmao....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ovalorange on January 10, 2013, 01:26:26 AM
I guess this adds a whole new level of strategy to the game... I'm intrigued but I don't know if I like it :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on January 10, 2013, 05:39:29 AM
I guess this adds a whole new level of strategy to the game... I'm intrigued but I don't know if I like it :lol:
yep. i feel the same way! not sure what to expect. i would rather have a race with no twists at all. i liked how in TAR20 they went back to basics :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on January 10, 2013, 07:08:58 AM
Oh wow , than i'll go with Chateau!

except maybe in facial ID's, lmao....

LOL
Chateau has been right before identifying teams by face :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on January 10, 2013, 01:14:58 PM
I've had some horrendous mistakes too! 

Remember Karl Malone !   :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on January 10, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
I've had some horrendous mistakes too! 

Remember Karl Malone !   :gaah:

I came up with the idea originally though  :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on January 10, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
I've had some horrendous mistakes too! 

Remember Karl Malone !   :gaah:

I came up with the idea originally though  :)

:tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on January 10, 2013, 07:11:54 PM
I've had some horrendous mistakes too! 

Remember Karl Malone !   :gaah:

I came up with the idea originally though  :)

I can't blame you for it!  But if you want it ...  :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Joeyengen on January 17, 2013, 10:44:36 PM
Idries Abdur-Rahman from TAR 22 on his facebook page it says he has traveled to lots of places including some of the destinations TAR 22 will be visiting It says he was at the Dublin Airport he traveled there ??? 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Joeyengen on January 17, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
He also says he was at the Noibai International Airport, Hanoi Vietnam and the London Heathrow Airport ????
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 18, 2013, 10:31:46 AM
He also says he was at the Noibai International Airport, Hanoi Vietnam and the London Heathrow Airport ????

That makes sense in terms of the destinations for TAR 22. Teams likely traveled through Nairobi to or from Johannesburg for the Botswana legs, They had a leg in Hanoi. London Heathrow would have been a connecting point for the UK legs and going to Washington DC.

What doesn't make sense is why he would have been to those locations if they were the first or second team eliminated. Maybe Heathrow makes sense, if he was traveling from where they were sequestered to Washington DC.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on January 18, 2013, 10:39:23 AM
Or he went there before the race...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on January 23, 2013, 08:37:56 AM
Gutsy contestants at the Shepherd's Shemozzle in Hunterville, New Zealand, had to run 50 metres with a bull's testicle in their mouth. <3
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on January 23, 2013, 09:01:39 AM
9 Countries:

USA
France (Bora Bora)
New Zealand
Indonesia
Vietnam
Botswana
Switzerland
Germany
UK (Scotland, Northern Ireland and London!?)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on January 23, 2013, 09:04:51 AM
Tahiti Moorea Bora Bora

Is where the skydiving happened.
 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 23, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
Legs 1-2: Bora Bora, French Polynesia, France
Leg 3: Christchurch, New Zealand
Leg 4: Bali, Indonesia
Leg 5: Hanoi, Vietnam
Legs 6-7: Botswana (includes Maun)
Leg 8: Switzerland (includes Eiger and Jungfrau)
Leg 9: Berlin, Germany
Leg 10: Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
Leg 11: Northern Ireland or London, England, UK
Leg 12: Washington D.C.

9 countries, 12 legs.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on January 24, 2013, 07:24:10 AM
I see it like:

1/2: Bora Bora
3: New Zealand
4: Indonesia
5/6 Vietnam
7/8 Botswana
9: Switzerland/Germany
10: Scotland
11: Northern Ireland
12: Northern Ireland - London - Washington DC
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 25, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
Can't disclose the evidence so this should be considered speculation - but it looks like they may have gone on a safari when they were in Edinburgh.

A Surfing Safari...

Probably one of these 3 locations - all about 1 hour away from Edinburgh airport:
Belhaven Bay (Dunbar)
Pease Bay
Coldingham Bay

Yes - there is winter surfing in Scotland

Lets go surfin now, Everybodys learning how, Come on and safari with me!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on January 25, 2013, 01:08:51 PM
Seems to be a surfing theme to this season.

Who knows they might have done snow and surfing in Switzerland.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on January 25, 2013, 02:38:47 PM
Can't disclose the evidence so this should be considered speculation - but it looks like they may have gone on a safari when they were in Edinburgh.

A Surfing Safari...

Probably one of these 3 locations - all about 1 hour away from Edinburgh airport:
Belhaven Bay (Dunbar)
Pease Bay
Coldingham Bay

Yes - there is winter surfing in Scotland

Lets go surfin now, Everybodys learning how, Come on and safari with me!

Cool!

I wish I had known about this for my video!

Winter surfing in the North Sea (http://seattletimes.com/html/picturethis/2017517619_scotlandsurfing.html)

Seattle Times

(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2012/02/15/2017517556.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on January 25, 2013, 03:32:12 PM
Can't disclose the evidence so this should be considered speculation - but it looks like they may have gone on a safari when they were in Edinburgh.

A Surfing Safari...

Probably one of these 3 locations - all about 1 hour away from Edinburgh airport:
Belhaven Bay (Dunbar)
Pease Bay
Coldingham Bay

Yes - there is winter surfing in Scotland

Lets go surfin now, Everybodys learning how, Come on and safari with me!

Yes, there are safaris in Scotland other than the obvious shooting/hunting related ones.
Here are the safaris I can find in Scotland (note - some are more than a part of one day and would not be suitable for that reason):

Duchally Highland Safari
Blair Drummond Safari and Adventure Park
Highland Adventure Safaris
Braemar Highland Safari
Scottish Highland Safari in Aberfeldy with separate Mountain, Forest, Mountain Trek, Cycling and Walking Safaris

and for the marine or diving enthusiast:
Dive Safari Scotland
Scottish Marine Safari
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 25, 2013, 04:54:05 PM
Can't disclose the evidence so this should be considered speculation - but it looks like they may have gone on a safari when they were in Edinburgh.

A Surfing Safari...

Probably one of these 3 locations - all about 1 hour away from Edinburgh airport:
Belhaven Bay (Dunbar)
Pease Bay
Coldingham Bay

Yes - there is winter surfing in Scotland

Lets go surfin now, Everybodys learning how, Come on and safari with me!

Yes, there are safaris in Scotland other than the obvious shooting/hunting related ones.
Here are the safaris I can find in Scotland (note - some are more than a part of one day and would not be suitable for that reason):

Duchally Highland Safari
Blair Drummond Safari and Adventure Park
Highland Adventure Safaris
Braemar Highland Safari
Scottish Highland Safari in Aberfeldy with separate Mountain, Forest, Mountain Trek, Cycling and Walking Safaris

and for the marine or diving enthusiast:
Dive Safari Scotland
Scottish Marine Safari

Ummm, ya... Perhaps I should have know better than to try to inject some levity in my post by including obscure references to 60s music.

They went surfing - forget I even mentioned safaris
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on January 25, 2013, 06:16:25 PM
The focus of my efforts has switched from safaris (a neat concept for Scotland and actually feasible) to surfing. The most likely surfing by AR22 teams was in the East Lothian section of Scotland, just east of Edinburgh. Here are the beaches I find most likely and whether of not they have any surf school:

EAST LOTHIAN SCOTLAND SURFING BEACHES
Pease Bay
Coast to Coast Surf School

Momentum Surf Shop

C2C Surf School

St Vedas

Puro Nectar Surf

Puro Nectar Surf

Gullane/Yellow Craigs-none

North Berwick/Seacliff-none

Dunbar/nearby Belhaven Bay
Each has a Coast to Coast Surf School, but they are closed after November 30

Coldingham Bay
Coast to Coast Surf School

C2C Surf School

St Vedas

Puro Nectar Surf

Puro Nectar Surf

So each of the 3 locations cited by Walking Pneumonia does have a surf school, although the Coast to Coast Schools in all 3 were probably closed for the winter before AR22 came to the area.
 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: selfeviction on January 25, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
I think TAR 22 elimination will go like this:
11th-Idries & Jamil
10th-Matthew & Daniel
9th-Jessica & John
8th-David & Connor
7th-Winnie & Pamela
6th-Joey & Meghan
5th-Chuck & Wynona
4th-Caroline & Jennifer
Final Three: Max & Katie, Mona & Beth, Bates & Anthony
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 25, 2013, 10:18:26 PM
I think TAR 22 elimination will go like this:
11th-Idries & Jamil
10th-Matthew & Daniel
9th-Jessica & John
8th-David & Connor
7th-Winnie & Pamela
6th-Joey & Meghan
5th-Chuck & Wynona
4th-Caroline & Jennifer
Final Three: Max & Katie, Mona & Beth, Bates & Anthony

QoR, Max & Katie and Mona & Beth are confirmed in DC. Bates & Anthony and Caroline & Jen are also spotted in DC. As with Whammo's post, Caroline & Jen are spotted in DC's Old Post office with Max & Katie and Mona & Beth. But Bates & Anthony were seen running near Mona & Beth near onto a mall or a shopping center and was seen behind.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Joeyengen on January 29, 2013, 01:36:19 AM
I have been watching season 13 of the amazing race and i was watching leg 4 when they went to New Zealand and Phil's dad was the pit stop greeter i wonder if he will be the greeter again for this season when to go to Christchurch ??? :D hahahahahaha
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on January 30, 2013, 05:58:52 AM
I have been watching season 13 of the amazing race and i was watching leg 4 when they went to New Zealand and Phil's dad was the pit stop greeter i wonder if he will be the greeter again for this season when to go to Christchurch ??? :D hahahahahaha

It is within the realm of possibility as Phil's family is from Christchurch, maybe the pit stop could even be Phil's childhood home.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 03, 2013, 07:49:55 AM
I have been watching season 13 of the amazing race and i was watching leg 4 when they went to New Zealand and Phil's dad was the pit stop greeter i wonder if he will be the greeter again for this season when to go to Christchurch ??? :D hahahahahaha

It is within the realm of possibility as Phil's family is from Christchurch, maybe the pit stop could even be Phil's childhood home.
You may be correct on the Pit Stop location, redskevin88. It seems like that may be the biggest possibility out of all Christchurch area choices. Lincoln, NZ isn't that far from Christchurch; it also has the first NZ supermarket generated by some wind turbines, so it may be the hit target for the mat... and Phil's dad! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on February 05, 2013, 09:09:18 PM
I don't know where to put this.

Basically I had a dream last night about TAR 22. I dreamt of a finishing line with teams cheering for a winning team...

Just as the winning team was about to arrive...............























I woke up. Thanks dream. :res:

BUT, I did see a male/female team running through first and three teams were obviously not there. SO, let's see if this holds through, the F3 in my dream and the ultimate winner. :lol3:

AND, this reminds me. I need to start updating myself a little on spoilers so as to have those killer questions for my game. Kthxbye.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2013, 09:19:44 PM
Encrypt it. Then we can check on your dream ESP later!! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on February 05, 2013, 09:41:03 PM
Bates and Anthony = F3 but don't win.

The winning team = male/female team whom I can't make out whether is it Joey and Meghan OR Max and Katherine (BUT pretty sure it's not Jessica and John OR Chuck and Wyona). I thought I saw these three in the F3 but then I'm not sure if I've got Joey and Meghan identified in blurred vision of dreams or not. :lol3: :lol3:

SADLY, Mona and Beth are not in the F3. :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: SamualDude on February 10, 2013, 09:50:07 PM
I remember you guys were talking about Shemozzle Racing in Hunterville but I don't know if you guys know this but Hunterville is in near the middle of the North Island so we may be getting two legs in New Zealand.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on February 10, 2013, 09:51:31 PM
There wasn't time I don't think. TAR can do a "created" race most anywhere though.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 11, 2013, 02:06:44 AM
I remember you guys were talking about Shemozzle Racing in Hunterville but I don't know if you guys know this but Hunterville is in near the middle of the North Island so we may be getting two legs in New Zealand.

Hunterville is too far away from Christchurch, I think there is a possibility the "shemozzle racing" task would be in Lincoln, not far from Christchurch.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on February 11, 2013, 01:07:47 PM
I remember you guys were talking about Shemozzle Racing in Hunterville but I don't know if you guys know this but Hunterville is in near the middle of the North Island so we may be getting two legs in New Zealand.

Hunterville is too far away from Christchurch, I think there is a possibility the "shemozzle racing" task would be in Lincoln, not far from Christchurch.

Amen! Hunterville is 378 miles from Christchurch, composed of:

North Island Hunterville to Wellington 114 miles
South Island Picton to Christchurch 209 miles
Interisland Ferry Wellington to Picton 55 miles 

So, teams are not going to be sent to Hunterville. However, the competitions from the Shepherd's Shemozzle Festival could easily be duplicated on the South Island. They include:

a cross country Shemozzle with Shepherds and Huntaway dogs (a large, strongly-built breed of dog used for general sheep herding tasks in New Zealand, especially for driving sheep) competing on an endurance and obstacle course
a Sheep shearing competition (done all over the South Island to attract tourists)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 15, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
I thought I'd indulge in some speculation about the second Express Pass this season. Phil says in his recent TV Guide interview that the holders of the Express Pass get a lot of attention from the other teams that want to be given the second Express Pass. I imagine that they will quickly realize that the second Express Pass puts them in a difficult position. The team that gets the second pass will be very happy and most of the other teams will be upset with them.

One of the things learned from our spoilers is that David of Connor and David gets a leg or Achilles tendon injury in one of the Bora Bora legs. Somehow, according to the timeline, they managed to survive until at least leg 5 despite the fact that David was barely able to walk and was using a wheelchair in some of the sightings. They seems pretty remarkable to me and after thinking it over, I figure that the team that wins the Express Pass in the first leg will end up giving it to Connor and David. The Express Pass would be one way for them to survive a leg.  The other teams can't get too upset about that since Connor and David aren't going to be much of a threat to the other teams and they will be thinking it's only a matter of time until the injury catches up with them and they are eliminated. Given the situation, it's probably the safest play for the team with the Express Pass. Unless they really want to forge an alliance with another team and don't care too much about the other teams.   

I suppose it's possible that Connor and David could win the first leg and get the Express Pass. In that case, forget all of the above.  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on February 15, 2013, 06:55:20 PM
Just to remind you  :)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/Duvee/tar22tvguide_zpsf4b471ed.png)

Short and to the point... Well that's no fun! :lol:

I can already answer this one!    :hoot:

We have the Express Pass as an accepted  and appreciated and sought after feature of TAR.  So that's not going away.     :wise   

At the end of the first leg, what would be even better than winning one?   ???

Well?  Winning two Express Passes of course!   :beer2:

But that may be just too simple.  And I have my reasons.  Let there be two EPs with the understanding that the second one has to be shared with another Team.  Simple!  Powerful!  Adds drama too.  TPTB probably got it from  one of mutlitude of  fantasy games  going on allover.  Can somebody check?  ;)  :popcorn:

The reason I can bring this up and speculate it with high confidence comes from  the spoiler information we have on Dave & Conner.  Here's my guess:   Dave does not actually hurt his Achilles Tendon.  He claims to have sustained the injury in order to garner sympathy from the other Teams.  In particular, sympathy from the Team that wins two Express Passes on the first leg.  So the EP is handed over, the ankle magically heals   :browsie:, and Dave & Conner are launched into a very advantageous position in the game.    One which may very well carry them to the final three.   :wtg:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2013, 08:07:16 PM
That might explain why D/C are believed to be in the lead at the airport...wheelchair and all!I think we have a consensus from two GREAT Detectives!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: LoveRocked on February 15, 2013, 09:15:20 PM
That might explain why D/C are believed to be in the lead at the airport...wheelchair and all!I think we have a consensus from two GREAT Detectives!

Who will be wheelchair? It's must be David & Connor but David & Connor really eliminated this point in Leg somewhere?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on February 15, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
Speculation for Leg 5: One team discovered they have been "lied too and back stabbed" and u-turn a team out of the race.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on February 15, 2013, 10:24:06 PM

In addition, Keoghan reveals, "We have a switchback coming that's a classic Amazing Race moment that we're going to repeat. We know from past experience that this is going to tweak them."


Another switchback!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on February 15, 2013, 10:31:58 PM

In addition, Keoghan reveals, "We have a switchback coming that's a classic Amazing Race moment that we're going to repeat. We know from past experience that this is going to tweak them."


Another switchback!

What can it be..  :umn:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2013, 10:39:12 PM
Let's take the Discussion to the spoiler threads. But we DO already know the switchback of course! TAR 8!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on February 15, 2013, 10:42:31 PM
Let's take the Discussion to the spoiler threads. But we DO already know the switchback of course! TAR 8!

Yeap  (Silly me, I found the sighting on FB  :gaah:).

 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: LoveRocked on February 16, 2013, 01:54:06 AM
Let's take the Discussion to the spoiler threads. But we DO already know the switchback of course! TAR 8!

Yeap  (Silly me, I found the sighting on FB  :gaah:).

 :lol3:

Which back switchback task? and I don't remember I don't watch TAR 8.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 16, 2013, 04:02:55 AM
Let's take the Discussion to the spoiler threads. But we DO already know the switchback of course! TAR 8!

Yeap  (Silly me, I found the sighting on FB  :gaah:).

 :lol3:

Which back switchback task? and I don't remember I don't watch TAR 8.

Show content
The briefcase task in TAR 8 with the phrase, "The Sky is Blue, The Sea is Green."
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on February 17, 2013, 02:56:48 AM
Maybe I'm just placing my speculation here. I'm kinda hoping that they'll make a task to find TAR Vietnam's host, Dustin Nguyen, which is like the one back in TAR16 in Singapore where they had to search for Allan Wu. It'll be nice to see them searching for a specific person. :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 17, 2013, 05:58:59 PM
Just to remind you  :)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d194/Duvee/tar22tvguide_zpsf4b471ed.png)

Short and to the point... Well that's no fun! :lol:

I can already answer this one!    :hoot:

We have the Express Pass as an accepted  and appreciated and sought after feature of TAR.  So that's not going away.     :wise   

At the end of the first leg, what would be even better than winning one?   ???

Well?  Winning two Express Passes of course!   :beer2:

But that may be just too simple.  And I have my reasons.  Let there be two EPs with the understanding that the second one has to be shared with another Team.  Simple!  Powerful!  Adds drama too.  TPTB probably got it from  one of mutlitude of  fantasy games  going on allover.  Can somebody check?  ;)  :popcorn:

The reason I can bring this up and speculate it with high confidence comes from  the spoiler information we have on Dave & Conner.  Here's my guess:   Dave does not actually hurt his Achilles Tendon.  He claims to have sustained the injury in order to garner sympathy from the other Teams.  In particular, sympathy from the Team that wins two Express Passes on the first leg.  So the EP is handed over, the ankle magically heals   :browsie:, and Dave & Conner are launched into a very advantageous position in the game.    One which may very well carry them to the final three.   :wtg:

I hope you're right about Dave and Connor because that would be great to see! It would be one of the greatest con jobs in reality TV history, up there with Johnny Fairplay's "dead" grandmother on Survivor and er.... umm.... Well, theer must be others, but they don't spring to mind right now. It's better than Nary and Jaimie's "We're school teachers!" line.

I'd speculate that Dave might actually get a mild sprain that needs medical attention and they then concoct the idea to play up the injury for sympathy.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 17, 2013, 08:18:59 PM
One thing I'm not so fond about is the record amount of pacts there are this season. The handbook conversation between JoJe and the cancer survivors on the episode 2 preview is one of the most pathetic agreement I have seen so far since TAR20 between Rachel & Dave and Art & JJ.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 17, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on February 17, 2013, 08:24:21 PM
Another thing I noticed with the next episode preview, unless there was editing, was that Dave hurt his leg, he just came right out and said, "I ruptured my Achilles tendon." Who says that without seeing a doctor? I think they are really trying to get some sympathy for the Express Pass.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Magnus on February 17, 2013, 08:26:33 PM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.

It helps that there were three teams, leaving two to deal with the penalty next time and not just one.

Well unless theres a bullshit hours of operation we can all come to the conclusion that Max and Katie or Country Girls are going home next

I don't know, no matter what I've been watching TAR too long to make those kind of assumptions.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on February 17, 2013, 08:27:27 PM
Well unless theres a bullshit hours of operation we can all come to the conclusion that Max and Katie or Country Girls are going home next

Knowing WRP, there will be though.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on February 17, 2013, 08:28:37 PM
Well unless theres a bullshit hours of operation we can all come to the conclusion that Max and Katie or Country Girls are going home next

Where John and Jess and Dave and Conner are talking, they look like they are waiting for something, so it's possible...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on February 17, 2013, 08:30:39 PM
Cheateau's theory may very well be correct and the pieces are coming together!

We saw that the 2nd team from flight 1 would get the spare EP from the team that won it. So JJ should give it to Connor & Dave.

HOWEVER, JJ will realise it was a dumb pact and they won't be playing it strategically by giving it to Connor & Dave.

So Connor & Dave are furious that they don't get the EP so Dave fakes his injury to get it off them straight away.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: LoveRocked on February 18, 2013, 12:16:20 AM
Cheateau's theory may very well be correct and the pieces are coming together!

We saw that the 2nd team from flight 1 would get the spare EP from the team that won it. So JJ should give it to Connor & Dave.

HOWEVER, JJ will realise it was a dumb pact and they won't be playing it strategically by giving it to Connor & Dave.

So Connor & Dave are furious that they don't get the EP so Dave fakes his injury to get it off them straight away.

It's pretty interesting! Its must be a good episode. I feel sorry for Dave.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on February 18, 2013, 04:38:49 AM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70wmrOgUy1qa9fk9o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on February 18, 2013, 07:34:32 AM
It's interesting to see the first/second episode with an arc over two teams that don't go too far (I think?)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on February 18, 2013, 08:16:35 AM
Another thing I noticed with the next episode preview, unless there was editing, was that Dave hurt his leg, he just came right out and said, "I ruptured my Achilles tendon." Who says that without seeing a doctor? I think they are really trying to get some sympathy for the Express Pass.

What difference did it make? If David and Connor finished 2nd of the original group of 5, the partnership agreement was for the winners of leg 1(John and Jessica) weere supposed to give it to them anyway).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on February 18, 2013, 08:31:55 AM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.

Let's look at the mathematics of this. There are 400 sandcastles at the start and 11 clues; the first team has a 2.75% chance each try. It appeared to be slow going and I thought the average time per sandcastle was running at about 3 minutes. That means it would take on average 54 minutes of attempts to find a clue. For each succeeding team, the odds went down until for the final 3 teams there are 3 sandcastles left, for a probability of 0.825% for each try. That means is would take on average 3.0 hours for them to find a clue. They appeared to have gone beyond that, so the statistics of the situation (which had worked for all prior teams) did not appear to be working out for the last 3 teams. Their election of taking the 4 hour penalty together meant that one team would almost certainly be eliminated and the other two would be fighting against elimination at the end of leg 2.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on February 18, 2013, 09:17:33 AM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.

Let's look at the mathematics of this. There are 400 sandcastles at the start and 10 clues; the first team has a 2.5% chance each try. It appeared to be slow going and I thought the average time per sandcastle was running at about 3 minutes. That means it would take on average 1 hour of attempts to find a clue. For each succeeding team, the odds went down until for the final 3 teams there are 3 sandcastles left, for a probability of 0.75% for each try. That means is would take 3.3 hours for them to find a clue. They appeared to have gone beyond that, so the statistics of the situation (which had worked for all prior teams) did not appear to be working out for the last 3 teams. Their election of taking the 4 hour penalty together meant that one team would almost certainly be eliminated and the other two would be fighting against elimination at the end of leg 2.

Wasn't there 11 clues at the start? ??? If there were only 10 clues, somebody was guaranteed not to get one and thus forced to take a penalty. Going with that new addition, the first team had a 2.75% chance of getting the clue at each sandcastle. Going with the assumption that each sandcastle would take on average 3 minutes to knock down and rebuild, there would be a 55% chance that a team would get it within the first hour of searching. Obviously this will decrease as teams find clues, but at the same time, I think from watching it, no teams rebuilt the last sandcastle they knocked over (the one with the clue), so going with that assumption...

10 teams: 50.12% chance within one hour
9 teams: 45.22% chance within one hour
8 teams: 40.3% chance within one hour
7 teams: 35.35% chance within one hour
6 teams: 30.38% chance within one hour
5 teams: 25.38% chance within one hour
4 teams: 20.36% chance within one hour
3 teams: 15.31% chance within one hour

This is based also on another assumption that the teams are doing it independently of one another (very poor statistical assumption but is basic enough to see the effects of finding the clues are). Thus, if Katie, Jennifer and Daniel had continued with the Roadblock, they would have taken about 6 and a half hours to complete (with all the assumptions used)! :ascared

However, going with the assumption that the Roadblockers DID rebuild the last sandcastle, the effects of chance change significantly:

10 teams: 50% chance within one hour
9 teams: 45% chance within one hour
8 teams: 40% chance within one hour
7 teams: 35% chance within one hour
6 teams: 30% chance within one hour
5 teams: 25% chance within one hour
4 teams: 20% chance within one hour
3 teams: 15% chance within one hour

Although insignificant in some respect, if the last sandcastle was to be built back up again, the chances of find the sandcastle would be reduced. Once again, these calculations are done with the assumption that all the teams performances are independent of each other. Thus, the time taken for the three teams to find a clue at 3 teams left would be slightly greater at 6 hours 40 minutes.

However, these models are really simplistic, ignoring a number of factors including:


There are other factors but I think these could be considered as the most important. At the end of the day, looking over the calculations here would suggest that taking the penalty would have been a good decision, however, incorporating the factors affecting how long the teams take, it may not have been such a wise decision after all. I guess time will tell...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on February 18, 2013, 09:18:27 AM
nvm, I missed the last post!

Thanks so much!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on February 18, 2013, 10:34:34 AM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.

Let's look at the mathematics of this. There are 400 sandcastles at the start and 10 clues; the first team has a 2.5% chance each try. It appeared to be slow going and I thought the average time per sandcastle was running at about 3 minutes. That means it would take on average 1 hour of attempts to find a clue. For each succeeding team, the odds went down until for the final 3 teams there are 3 sandcastles left, for a probability of 0.75% for each try. That means is would take 3.3 hours for them to find a clue. They appeared to have gone beyond that, so the statistics of the situation (which had worked for all prior teams) did not appear to be working out for the last 3 teams. Their election of taking the 4 hour penalty together meant that one team would almost certainly be eliminated and the other two would be fighting against elimination at the end of leg 2.

Wasn't there 11 clues at the start? ??? If there were only 10 clues, somebody was guaranteed not to get one and thus forced to take a penalty. Going with that new addition, the first team had a 2.75% chance of getting the clue at each sandcastle. Going with the assumption that each sandcastle would take on average 3 minutes to knock down and rebuild, there would be a 55% chance that a team would get it within the first hour of searching. Obviously this will decrease as teams find clues, but at the same time, I think from watching it, no teams rebuilt the last sandcastle they knocked over (the one with the clue), so going with that assumption...

10 teams: 50.12% chance within one hour
9 teams: 45.22% chance within one hour
8 teams: 40.3% chance within one hour
7 teams: 35.35% chance within one hour
6 teams: 30.38% chance within one hour
5 teams: 25.38% chance within one hour
4 teams: 20.36% chance within one hour
3 teams: 15.31% chance within one hour

This is based also on another assumption that the teams are doing it independently of one another (very poor statistical assumption but is basic enough to see the effects of finding the clues are). Thus, if Katie, Jennifer and Daniel had continued with the Roadblock, they would have taken about 6 and a half hours to complete (with all the assumptions used)! :ascared

However, going with the assumption that the Roadblockers DID rebuild the last sandcastle, the effects of chance change significantly:

10 teams: 50% chance within one hour
9 teams: 45% chance within one hour
8 teams: 40% chance within one hour
7 teams: 35% chance within one hour
6 teams: 30% chance within one hour
5 teams: 25% chance within one hour
4 teams: 20% chance within one hour
3 teams: 15% chance within one hour

Although insignificant in some respect, if the last sandcastle was to be built back up again, the chances of find the sandcastle would be reduced. Once again, these calculations are done with the assumption that all the teams performances are independent of each other. Thus, the time taken for the three teams to find a clue at 3 teams left would be slightly greater at 6 hours 40 minutes.

However, these models are really simplistic, ignoring a number of factors including:

  • How quickly teams are constructing the sandcastles
  • Fatigue
  • How many sandcastles teams know have been searched
  • Teams potentially "missing" the clue (remember how Dave said he might have missed a clue for not digging deep enough?)
  • How many sandcastles other teams deconstruct before finding a clue

There are other factors but I think these could be considered as the most important. At the end of the day, looking over the calculations here would suggest that taking the penalty would have been a good decision, however, incorporating the factors affecting how long the teams take, it may not have been such a wise decision after all. I guess time will tell...

Mr. Deer Shank,

I discovered my error about 11 initial clues vs. the 10 I erroneously used (and am correcting it). Your mathematics are not significantly different than mine. Your point about the several other factors that influenced the actual situation are all valid. However, we have no knowledge of the specific impact of each one or even the aggregate of them. So we are left with just the mathematics, which does tell us some very interesting things about why it was taking the last 3 teams so long.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on February 18, 2013, 10:39:52 AM
I wonder why Matt and Dnaiel did not go back and finish the roadblock. If I remember correctly teams that quit the meat roadblock went back and finished it (Susan and Patrick).
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: BuuYaa on February 18, 2013, 10:46:45 AM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.

Let's look at the mathematics of this. There are 400 sandcastles at the start and 10 clues; the first team has a 2.5% chance each try. It appeared to be slow going and I thought the average time per sandcastle was running at about 3 minutes. That means it would take on average 1 hour of attempts to find a clue. For each succeeding team, the odds went down until for the final 3 teams there are 3 sandcastles left, for a probability of 0.75% for each try. That means is would take 3.3 hours for them to find a clue. They appeared to have gone beyond that, so the statistics of the situation (which had worked for all prior teams) did not appear to be working out for the last 3 teams. Their election of taking the 4 hour penalty together meant that one team would almost certainly be eliminated and the other two would be fighting against elimination at the end of leg 2.

I also think it was smart of them to take the penalty. I meant they could just stay there and depended on their luck but were you really gonna do that after 4 hours of digging, searching, building, repeating, in almost 100 degrees. It was still leg 1 and you knew you have 11 legs coming and had to stay fit.

I think what's interesting in this RB is that they're gonna have to re-build the Sandcastles. Back in Tar 6 and Tar 15, in the hay RB, they didn't have to roll the hay back, they just roll it open and search, and if no clue in it, repeat. So teams coming behind were spared some works and had the chance to catch up. or in Tar 18 in the tea-tasting RB, once you drank a cup,if wrong, that cup would not be re-filled again.

this RB, either they arrived first or last, they all started from zero. of course teams arriving behind may notice which sandcastle had been torn down and which hadn't, but i think it was still hard to differ, especially with 100 degrees up on your head. almost everything depended on their luck.

It was fair actually but I did pity the racers. Why would they just put 11 clues instead of like 20? The more clue found, the more miserable teams became.



Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: BuuYaa on February 18, 2013, 10:53:12 AM
I wonder why Matt and Dnaiel did not go back and finish the roadblock. If I remember correctly teams that quit the meat roadblock went back and finished it (Susan and Patrick).

I think because they already declared to take the penalty.
Once you took it, it will be assessed no matter what

Susan&Patrick never really declared to take the penalty.
They were second to last  and they still needed to wait for Debbie&Bianca to start the RB before the penalty time was started to count

So it would be best for Patrick to attempt the RB so they remained ahead of Debbie&Bianca.

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on February 18, 2013, 10:58:50 AM
I think what's interesting in this RB is that they're gonna have to re-build the Sandcastles. Back in Tar 6 and Tar 15, in the hay RB, they didn't have to roll the hay back, they just roll it open and search, and if no clue in it, repeat. So teams coming behind were spared some works and had the chance to catch up. or in Tar 18 in the tea-tasting RB, once you drank a cup,if wrong, that cup would not be re-filled again.
Umm.. I think it's TOO CRUEL to be implemented... Actually, making one hay bale (from a source (http://www.ehow.com/how_8036885_make-hay-bales-consistent-weight.html) I read) takes more than 1 day in order to dry the hay. Also, I think that they used tractor to make it, not by bare hands... :res:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: BuuYaa on February 18, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
I think what's interesting in this RB is that they're gonna have to re-build the Sandcastles. Back in Tar 6 and Tar 15, in the hay RB, they didn't have to roll the hay back, they just roll it open and search, and if no clue in it, repeat. So teams coming behind were spared some works and had the chance to catch up. or in Tar 18 in the tea-tasting RB, once you drank a cup,if wrong, that cup would not be re-filled again.
Umm.. I think it's TOO CRUEL to be implemented... Actually, making one hay bale (from a source (http://www.ehow.com/how_8036885_make-hay-bales-consistent-weight.html) I read) takes more than 1 day in order to dry the hay. Also, I think that they used tractor to make it, not by bare hands... :res:

aw lol sorry then I guess I had no idea. but still, the hay bale RB spared some works on teams arriving behind. in the sandcastle RB, you need to have keen eyes to differ which has been torn down and which hasn't. the amount of hay bales in tar 6 was only 200 something, and in tar 15 was 100 something. amount of clues hidden inside were more than the amount of remaining teams.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 18, 2013, 11:22:21 AM
I'm just going to express again that I hate luck tasks, especially with Bates and Anthony checking in 2nd after like searching 2 sandcastles. I don't blame the task for Matt and Daniel's elimination, since they were too arrogant with the boat task.

I'm shocked they all took the penalty. If I was racing, I would have not agreed to take the penalty hoping that I have kept good track at which sandcastles I knocked down, but then again, I wasn't out there for 3 hours either.

Ain't nobody got time for a 4-hour penalty when almost half of the sandcastles are already knocked down. Even if you didn't take the penalty, it will still take less time to knock down and rebuild them. Forget the pact, I'm worrying about myself.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70wmrOgUy1qa9fk9o1_500.gif)
THIS!  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on February 18, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
I'm going to speculate that Gosford House is not only the Pit Stop for our leg in Scotland but also that it directly follows the surfing task at the beaches of Longniddry.

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4096/4891558121_722aaff875_z.jpg)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/54625416.jpg)

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on February 18, 2013, 12:55:04 PM
Nice Chateau!! Geographic proximetry works!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on February 18, 2013, 01:00:35 PM
You could just see Phil standing at the top of those stairs with the bagpipe players right now :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jiajia12 on February 18, 2013, 06:27:02 PM
I come to a conclusion that Max&Katie and the Blondes survives because of HoO or the black twins can't swim .
again this is not racist just because I call them black, its just easier for me to identity them without messing up their names.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 18, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
I come to a conclusion that Max&Katie and the Blondes survives because of HoO or the black twins can't swim .
again this is not racist just because I call them black, its just easier for me to identity them without messing up their names.
Idries & Jamil can barely swim decently judging from their big splash in the va'a coming undone. If you notice, Idries took a while to get back up to surface (WITH LIFEVESTS) and then he lost his glasses. :) So when that scuba task comes up, one of them will screw things up.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 19, 2013, 12:05:34 AM
Rewatching the premiere's "next time on" on DVR, I can see trivial hints:

• During the stingray scene, you can see a couple boxes on the right side which might have to do with the scuba. "Scuba dive into the Pacific Ocean and retrieve a treasure chest surrounded by many sea creatures." Teams will have to do something with an item inside the box for sure.
• The Pit Stop location is at a small point (maybe Motu Ahuna) where there are some shrubs and are able to view two nearby islands perfectly. Okay, if teams are running to the Pit Stop via land, then it's most likely a land task preceding the Pit Stop since we already have boat transportation checked off.

FUN-CAR RENTALS IN VAITAPE would make this leg. :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on February 19, 2013, 04:25:51 AM
I'm going to guess that a detour in Edinburgh is could be Stones(curling) or Bowls(skittles) as next to Duddingston Kirk is Thomson's Tower - http://www.drneilsgarden.co.uk/history2.html which is where the rules of curling were first written down and where they stored the stones. There is also The Sheep Heid Inn - http://www.thesheepheidedinburgh.co.uk/offer/skittleslley/ which has Scotland's oldest surviving skittle alley.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: BuuYaa on February 19, 2013, 09:47:11 AM
Hey maybe it's a little off topic to talk about this now but I am just pretty curious ...

I haven't been here for a while and since this is a spoiler thread, so I wanted to know

Which teams are confirmed to be in the final three???
 
....

Is that true?Or maybe there's a new-confirmed-true final three that I haven't reached yet???

Please tell I am too curious  :umn: :umn: :umn:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on February 19, 2013, 11:40:56 AM
Hey maybe it's a little off topic to talk about this now but I am just pretty curious ...

I haven't been here for a while and since this is a spoiler thread, so I wanted to know

Which teams are confirmed to be in the final three???
 
....

Is that true?Or maybe there's a new-confirmed-true final three that I haven't reached yet???

Please tell I am too curious  :umn: :umn: :umn:

Or perhaps you could just READ THE SPOILERS yourself. Grrr.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on February 19, 2013, 01:22:36 PM
First page... guys... first page. *shakes head*
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: theschnauzers on February 24, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
A point about the probabilities for the sandcastle task that was being discussed.

It's apparent when a sandcastle had been rebuilt as compared to the ones that had not been checked by any of the teams. I'm not totally sure why they were requiring teams to re-build each sandcastle as it was checked other than to use up time and make the task more difficult, but the practical nature of that instruction in the task certain makes it harder to compute real odds.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jobby on March 03, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
Apparently, during the episode, I think Max and Katie said they hope they were making a smart decision by not digging a sandcastle that they know has been rebuilt by another team. Hence, a Lena and Kristy moment could happen here should a team not DIG deep enough for the clue and then went on to rebuild the sandcastle and then all the other teams virtually will assume that there's no clue in there and not find a clue from it. I think it's kind of easy to tell which one was a sandcastle built by the production and which one was rebuilt by the teams based on the wetness of the sand.

Considering the odds, this task could be way harder than the Haybales task in TAR 6 and 15? Because the odds are decreasing exponentially with each clue found, for example, 3 to 4:400 sandcastles for the final three teams 3:whatever that's not been unrolled for the Haybales challenge in TAR 15 and we know there's only 186 of them. The strength required for both tasks are varying but let's not forget the heat factor, dehydration etc.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on March 03, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
I was wondering, what will happen if a team that wins the Express Pass is eliminated before using Express Pass? I read somewhere that it will be prize for the next leg ???

I just can't imagine what makes Jessica & John completely screwed up at the next leg.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 03, 2013, 08:38:19 PM
I was wondering, what will happen if a team that wins the Express Pass is eliminated before using Express Pass? I read somewhere that it will be prize for the next leg ???

I just can't imagine what makes Jessica & John completely screwed up at the next leg.
Teams can't Express Pass transportation issues, so that might land in their elimination category.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on March 03, 2013, 08:56:57 PM
I was wondering, what will happen if a team that wins the Express Pass is eliminated before using Express Pass? I read somewhere that it will be prize for the next leg ???

I just can't imagine what makes Jessica & John completely screwed up at the next leg.
Teams can't Express Pass transportation issues, so that might land in their elimination category.
So, is there a chance to have a U-Turn in Bali leg? JeJo will screw them up and get eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 04, 2013, 07:56:21 AM
I thought I'd indulge in some speculation about the second Express Pass this season. Phil says in his recent TV Guide interview that the holders of the Express Pass get a lot of attention from the other teams that want to be given the second Express Pass. I imagine that they will quickly realize that the second Express Pass puts them in a difficult position. The team that gets the second pass will be very happy and most of the other teams will be upset with them.

One of the things learned from our spoilers is that David of Connor and David gets a leg or Achilles tendon injury in one of the Bora Bora legs. Somehow, according to the timeline, they managed to survive until at least leg 5 despite the fact that David was barely able to walk and was using a wheelchair in some of the sightings. They seems pretty remarkable to me and after thinking it over, I figure that the team that wins the Express Pass in the first leg will end up giving it to Connor and David. The Express Pass would be one way for them to survive a leg.  The other teams can't get too upset about that since Connor and David aren't going to be much of a threat to the other teams and they will be thinking it's only a matter of time until the injury catches up with them and they are eliminated. Given the situation, it's probably the safest play for the team with the Express Pass. Unless they really want to forge an alliance with another team and don't care too much about the other teams.   

I suppose it's possible that Connor and David could win the first leg and get the Express Pass. In that case, forget all of the above.  ;)

 *-:)   :winner    :happy:

The sound you hear is me tooting my own horn.

Every once in a while I get one right. It feels good.

 :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on March 04, 2013, 10:06:01 AM
Awesome! Good Job Plaidmoon!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: SoYoung on March 05, 2013, 06:37:52 AM
Its kinda surprising that the speculated f3-f5 teams are either struggling, not dominating, always at the back of the back as of episode 3. The teams who are cuurrently always in the front pack is the one speculated to be leaving next. :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: scuzneck on March 05, 2013, 11:20:51 AM
Not sure if it has been posted elsewhere, but do we know the full extent of David injury. I am to have my ruptured Achilles' tendon surgery tomorrow and just was curious to know what his final diagnosis was and how he is doing now. I realize that because of the show's airing a few months after the injury that details like that are probably confidential but it would be reassuring to know that he is doing well. I saw the episode when it happened to him and immediately knew the pain he was feeling.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
I dont think we do know, they are not using social media. Best of luck tomorrow, hope all goes well! Perhaps you can share the limitations/pain you experienced in the Episode thread, to help us understand better? :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 06, 2013, 12:47:07 PM
Really hope that they have London before D.C., but we don`t know yet.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 06, 2013, 12:49:11 PM
Really hope that they have London before D.C., but we don`t know yet.

I think it's gonna be Berlin -> Edinburgh/Longniddry -> Belfast -> D.C. - London's been visited every time TAR has been to the UK, we do have other places here :P
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on March 08, 2013, 08:55:41 AM
First time the race visits Vietnam for one leg
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
Having a single leg in Vietnam brings London back into the picture!  ;)

We need to have BIG city action in this season.  Right?

There are 12 legs and the sighting in Belfast was on December 5th.  That leaves just enough time to fly to London and have a regular leg on the 6th.  Teams catch UA 923 from LHR to IAD at 7:40 am on the 7th.

(http://i47.[banned image hosting site].com/14taf5v.png)

(http://www.inetours.com/England/London/images/Trafalgar/Lion_3304.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 11:33:13 AM
Only problem is...so far we have not one little clue...no tweets, sightings, blogs, permit to be found for London! But there SHOULD be something else, they aren't going to be sitting in Belfast for that long either.

It is a puzzle!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on March 08, 2013, 11:40:59 AM
Maybe they avoided the touristy spots.  Only 4 Teams.  Season 19's Panama was devoid of sightings too.  ???
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 11:45:16 AM
An Indian village in the Panama countryside is different from London. One woud think we sould have SOMETHING from there. Or perhaps it was planned and then cancelled for some reason. :duno:

No saying they weren't there, mind you. Just that normal TAR research has turned up...zilch.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 08, 2013, 12:31:07 PM
If London is to be believed, it's the first time ever (except for FE) that a country has had 3 legs in it! :o (Unless you want to count TAR14 China) Could Switzerland and Germany be two separate legs? That would once again make the 12 legs, but it's just a thought :)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2013, 01:59:53 PM
We have too many legs, not too few, lol.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: supah on March 08, 2013, 07:12:26 PM
I seriously doubt Switzerland and Germany was one leg like we suspect it is
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Leafsfan on March 09, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
It might be the Botswana to Switzerland as one, continuing the theme of long legs this season.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on March 09, 2013, 02:00:18 PM
Wow wow wow just ONE VietNam leg!! Was expecting 2, darn!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on March 09, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
My guess:
Leg 6: Vietnam - Botswana
Leg 7: Botswana
Leg 8: Botswana - Switzerland
Leg 9: Switzerland - Germany
Leg 10: Germany - Scotland
Leg 11: Scotland - Northern Ireland
Leg 12: Northern Ireland - USA

Someone earlier said this season will need some big city action. I believe that will be fulfilled by Hanoi, Berlin, and Washington D.C.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 09, 2013, 02:59:04 PM
My guess:
Leg 6: Vietnam - Botswana
Leg 7: Botswana
Leg 8: Botswana - Switzerland
Leg 9: Switzerland - Germany
Leg 10: Germany - Scotland
Leg 11: Scotland - Northern Ireland
Leg 12: Northern Ireland - USA

Someone earlier said this season will need some big city action. I believe that will be fulfilled by Hanoi, Berlin, and Washington D.C.

Hopefully Belfast as well
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_cities
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on March 09, 2013, 03:17:08 PM
Underscoring my suspicion of hitting at least one of the world's biggest cities (besides LA) is Phil's introductory remark that "Los Angeles, once a desolate valley is now the most populated county in the United States."
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 10, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
So the next boot is possibly Pam/Winnie, Dave/Connor, or Joey/Meghan?

Were any of them spotted in Botswana?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 10, 2013, 08:22:57 PM
So the next boot is possibly Pam/Winnie, Dave/Connor, or Joey/Meghan?

Were any of them spotted in Botswana?

There was a blog post that somebody put in the Live sightings thread (I think) saying that Joey and Meghan and Pam and Winnie were safe to Botswana - although that can be taken with a grain of salt :)

I'm speculating that if Dave and Connor ARE eliminated, they'll be U-Turned by someone
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 08:26:10 PM
Only a dastardly duo would U Turn someone on crutches! :ascared
Title: Re: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2013, 08:31:21 PM
The next episode can be discussed in that thread..... :tup:

as soon as I remember to open it!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 11, 2013, 09:47:06 AM
So the next boot is possibly Pam/Winnie, Dave/Connor, or Joey/Meghan?

Were any of them spotted in Botswana?

There was a blog post that somebody put in the Live sightings thread (I think) saying that Joey and Meghan and Pam and Winnie were safe to Botswana - although that can be taken with a grain of salt :)

I'm speculating that if Dave and Connor ARE eliminated, they'll be U-Turned by someone
I'm having a feeling that it might be Bates & Anthony or maybe even Pam & Winnie. I doubt it will be the country singers, Chuck & Wynona, or Joey & Meghan. I'm mixed about Max & Katie...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on March 11, 2013, 11:30:39 AM
My mind says Joey & Meghan but gut feeling says Dave & Connor. Well , they've already made history anyway  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 11, 2013, 12:20:10 PM
Having a single leg in Vietnam brings London back into the picture!  ;)

We need to have BIG city action in this season.  Right?

There are 12 legs and the sighting in Belfast was on December 5th.  That leaves just enough time to fly to London and have a regular leg on the 6th.  Teams catch UA 923 from LHR to IAD at 7:40 am on the 7th.

(http://i47.[banned image hosting site].com/14taf5v.png)

(http://www.inetours.com/England/London/images/Trafalgar/Lion_3304.jpg)

It could be so COOL if they go there!!!! Only Season 7 have showcased London in a propper way!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 11, 2013, 06:28:52 PM
Were we certain that the F3 is Max/Katie, Bates/Anthony, and Mona/Beth? Maybe this will make that true?

Max posted a Twitter pic quite a while ago https://twitter.com/MrMaxBichler/status/302824653372674048/photo/1

and the first three names that appear are theirs, Mona/Beth, and Bates/Anthony (clearly Bates got cut off)

Idk.. I recall these incidents happening in past seasons (I remember in TAR 18 someone said that they had Gary & Mallory listed, and in TAR 19 someone had Ernie & Cindy listed.. if I recall, Dave/Rachel were listed in TAR 20?)

Just a little "fact" idk
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jiajia12 on March 11, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
The season finale of #AmazingRace has been announced! Tune in for a 2-hr episode on 5/5 at 8/7c only on @CBS! http://bit.ly/YfnvDY

2 Hour episode, so Final 4 I guess makes the finale? :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on March 11, 2013, 10:05:24 PM
Maybe it's 4 teams going into that leg, but probably it's only 3. We have 8 teams left now. There are 7 episodes left before the finale. That means 2 NELs or additional TBC/KORs to reach that point. If 4 teams are left going into leg 12, then there would have to be 3 NELs or additional TBCs/KROs. That doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on March 11, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
Possibilities for u-turn:
1. Max and Katie/Caroline and Jennifer UTURN Joey and Meghan/Mona and Beth
2. Joey and Meghan/Mona and Beth UTURN Max and Katie/Caroline and Jennifer
3. Joey and Meghan/Mona and Beth UTURN Bates and Anthony (Their alliance was made to get rid of the hockey bros)
4. Pam and Winnie UTURN David and Connor (Perhaps they want revenge for the surfboard incident)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2013, 11:33:38 PM
Maybe it's 4 teams going into that leg, but probably it's only 3. We have 8 teams left now. There are 7 episodes left before the finale. That means 2 NELs or additional TBC/KORs to reach that point. If 4 teams are left going into leg 12, then there would have to be 3 NELs or additional TBCs/KROs. That doesn't make sense to me.

Double episode would mean 4 teams at ep 11 and 3 at ep 12...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
Let's take the discussion of  current episodes to that EPISODE thread, and use this thread for future episodes...many thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jostor on March 12, 2013, 06:17:55 AM
Let's hope that the teams actually spend some time in London or some other larger European cities, in almost all recent series whenever teams went to a larger European city they always just went off driving around the countryside. Obviously filming inside the city might be harder and it greatly increases the risk of getting spotted, but some european city action would be nice, the only recent one was in Russia in TAR 21 if I remember right.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 12, 2013, 12:13:59 PM
Let's hope that the teams actually spend some time in London or some other larger European cities, in almost all recent series whenever teams went to a larger European city they always just went off driving around the countryside. Obviously filming inside the city might be harder and it greatly increases the risk of getting spotted, but some european city action would be nice, the only recent one was in Russia in TAR 21 if I remember right.

Yes they need some more Big City Action, So London could be perfect!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: kiki on March 12, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Let's hope that the teams actually spend some time in London or some other larger European cities, in almost all recent series whenever teams went to a larger European city they always just went off driving around the countryside. Obviously filming inside the city might be harder and it greatly increases the risk of getting spotted, but some european city action would be nice, the only recent one was in Russia in TAR 21 if I remember right.

Yes they need some more Big City Action, So London could be perfect!!!!

Don't forget we have Berlin!
Teams were spotted walking through the streets holding huge letters.
Berlin certainly qualifies as Big City Action.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2013, 01:18:49 PM
And Edinburgh, and Belfast...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: jostor on March 14, 2013, 02:30:46 PM
Let's hope that the teams actually spend some time in London or some other larger European cities, in almost all recent series whenever teams went to a larger European city they always just went off driving around the countryside. Obviously filming inside the city might be harder and it greatly increases the risk of getting spotted, but some european city action would be nice, the only recent one was in Russia in TAR 21 if I remember right.

Yes they need some more Big City Action, So London could be perfect!!!!

Don't forget we have Berlin!
Teams were spotted walking through the streets holding huge letters.
Berlin certainly qualifies as Big City Action.
Would be a very welcome change and I hope they do it in more seasons!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on March 14, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
Coughtar21
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: addie on March 18, 2013, 06:22:13 AM
leg 7 being botswana is confirmed
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 18, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Do you suppose Wynona digs for scorpions?
She better be... :rules: ..... jk! :lol:

But seriously, unless she wants to do a more physical or strengthy Roadblock than the sandcastles, she HAS to do the scorpion RB.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on March 19, 2013, 04:59:59 PM
Were we certain that the F3 is Max/Katie, Bates/Anthony, and Mona/Beth? Maybe this will make that true?

Max posted a Twitter pic quite a while ago https://twitter.com/MrMaxBichler/status/302824653372674048/photo/1

and the first three names that appear are theirs, Mona/Beth, and Bates/Anthony (clearly Bates got cut off)

Idk.. I recall these incidents happening in past seasons (I remember in TAR 18 someone said that they had Gary & Mallory listed, and in TAR 19 someone had Ernie & Cindy listed.. if I recall, Dave/Rachel were listed in TAR 20?)

Just a little "fact" idk

You do realise that's for the opening episode?

As for London, all I'm going to say is that London is not the be all and end all of the British Isles, as shown in series 3 and with going to Edinburgh and Belfast. Sure it's the main International flight hub, but there are far better cities in England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales that showcase the many wonders of the isles that London just can't do.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 19, 2013, 05:15:24 PM
Were we certain that the F3 is Max/Katie, Bates/Anthony, and Mona/Beth? Maybe this will make that true?

Max posted a Twitter pic quite a while ago https://twitter.com/MrMaxBichler/status/302824653372674048/photo/1

and the first three names that appear are theirs, Mona/Beth, and Bates/Anthony (clearly Bates got cut off)

Idk.. I recall these incidents happening in past seasons (I remember in TAR 18 someone said that they had Gary & Mallory listed, and in TAR 19 someone had Ernie & Cindy listed.. if I recall, Dave/Rachel were listed in TAR 20?)

Just a little "fact" idk

You do realise that's for the opening episode?

As for London, all I'm going to say is that London is not the be all and end all of the British Isles, as shown in series 3 and with going to Edinburgh and Belfast. Sure it's the main International flight hub, but there are far better cities in England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales that showcase the many wonders of the isles that London just can't do.

Doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure they list the same people in every single episode. The fact that they appear in probably every episode of this season is why they're in the description.

It HAS happened in past seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on March 19, 2013, 05:45:33 PM
Were we certain that the F3 is Max/Katie, Bates/Anthony, and Mona/Beth? Maybe this will make that true?

Max posted a Twitter pic quite a while ago https://twitter.com/MrMaxBichler/status/302824653372674048/photo/1

and the first three names that appear are theirs, Mona/Beth, and Bates/Anthony (clearly Bates got cut off)

Idk.. I recall these incidents happening in past seasons (I remember in TAR 18 someone said that they had Gary & Mallory listed, and in TAR 19 someone had Ernie & Cindy listed.. if I recall, Dave/Rachel were listed in TAR 20?)

Just a little "fact" idk

You do realise that's for the opening episode?

As for London, all I'm going to say is that London is not the be all and end all of the British Isles, as shown in series 3 and with going to Edinburgh and Belfast. Sure it's the main International flight hub, but there are far better cities in England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales that showcase the many wonders of the isles that London just can't do.

THIS. They do not need to go to London every time they come here, even if from there, they go off somewhere else. I'm so glad Edinburgh/Longniddry and Belfast are being showcased instead this time
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 21, 2013, 12:41:50 PM
Were we certain that the F3 is Max/Katie, Bates/Anthony, and Mona/Beth? Maybe this will make that true?

Max posted a Twitter pic quite a while ago https://twitter.com/MrMaxBichler/status/302824653372674048/photo/1

and the first three names that appear are theirs, Mona/Beth, and Bates/Anthony (clearly Bates got cut off)

Idk.. I recall these incidents happening in past seasons (I remember in TAR 18 someone said that they had Gary & Mallory listed, and in TAR 19 someone had Ernie & Cindy listed.. if I recall, Dave/Rachel were listed in TAR 20?)

Just a little "fact" idk

You do realise that's for the opening episode?

As for London, all I'm going to say is that London is not the be all and end all of the British Isles, as shown in series 3 and with going to Edinburgh and Belfast. Sure it's the main International flight hub, but there are far better cities in England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales that showcase the many wonders of the isles that London just can't do.

THIS. They do not need to go to London every time they come here, even if from there, they go off somewhere else. I'm so glad Edinburgh/Longniddry and Belfast are being showcased instead this time

True it could be great to see Liverpool, Manchester, the country of Wales and get a visit to Sherwood Forest to have a Robin Hood challenge.
But i would personally love to see London, before the end city. It could be so cool. There are so many amazing Places there BigBen, Wembly, The Harry Potter experience. A lot of great museums they could do stuff at. And finally many great personallyties they could refere to like The Iron Lady, William Churchill and Charles Dickens. But it looks like London is NOT gonna happend this season. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 22 MEDIA
Post by: ianthebalance on March 30, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
YAY!  :hearts: I dont know why people assumed the briefcase roadblock from Family Edition would be the switchback, this was the obvious choice.
Title: Re: Re: TAR 22 MEDIA
Post by: georgiapeach on March 30, 2013, 10:46:50 PM
Same task, same loaction=switchback.

This could be different...
Title: Re: Re: TAR 22 MEDIA
Post by: Kamineko on March 30, 2013, 11:57:53 PM
Same task, same loaction=switchback.

This could be different...
It doesn't have to be in exact same location. The Fast Forward Switchback in TAR20 is in different city, although in the same country (India). ;)

Is there any possibility that there'll be more than one Switchback? :ascared :ascared
Title: Re: Re: TAR 22 MEDIA
Post by: theschnauzers on March 31, 2013, 03:02:13 AM
Same task, same loaction=switchback.

This could be different...
It doesn't have to be in exact same location. The Fast Forward Switchback in TAR20 is in different city, although in the same country (India). ;)

Is there any possibility that there'll be more than one Switchback? :ascared :ascared

That's the thought that I have as well. It would surprise viewers for there to be two such switchbacks in the same season. And IIRC, didn't we have photographic evidence of the final leg switchback?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: DrRox on March 31, 2013, 03:27:59 AM
It sort of depends on what type of task is the switchback.

Fast Forward switchbacks (head shaving) have not been in the same location. Roadblock switchbacks (haybales) was in the same exact field.

The cheesehill was neither of those, but it was a route info team task. I dont think we have had a switchback on route info yet.
Title: Re: Re: TAR 22 MEDIA
Post by: Alenaveda on March 31, 2013, 07:14:33 AM
Same task, same loaction=switchback.

This could be different...
It doesn't have to be in exact same location. The Fast Forward Switchback in TAR20 is in different city, although in the same country (India). ;)

Is there any possibility that there'll be more than one Switchback? :ascared :ascared

That's the thought that I have as well. It would surprise viewers for there to be two such switchbacks in the same season. And IIRC, didn't we have photographic evidence of the final leg switchback?

Yes, in the sightings thread.  Check Reply #254, Reply #257 and Reply #261.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ianthebalance on March 31, 2013, 11:08:18 AM
Just because a task is simular, it doesn't mean its a switchback. I think the only switchback is the cheese task. I doubt they would do an official switchback of the most hated season in TAR history.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on March 31, 2013, 12:23:20 PM
The donkey task is not a switchback , guys... 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on March 31, 2013, 01:44:23 PM
They're not talking about the donkeys, lol

I think they're talking Cheese/TAR14 vs. Suitcase/TAR8
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on April 01, 2013, 08:08:14 AM
Based on our caps/sightings for Scotland so far, we have 4 places:

The Royal Mile
Craigmillar Castle
Duddingston Kirk
Gosford House

The Royal Mile is probably where teams picked up their cars if they were getting directions in Cowgate, which isn't far from the Mile; Gosford House is most likely the Pit Stop. However, Craigmillar Castle and Duddingston Kirk are the ones which are slightly puzzling. Craigmillar Castle could be either a Detour or Roadblock, but Duddingston Kirk is quite a small graveyard, so potentially, depending on where it is in relation to other places possibly visited, could be a site of a Double U-Turn or a Speed Bump (which would imply an NEL in Germany). If it were to be a Double U-Turn, we would most likely see an NEL before that (as we have not had a Double U-Turn with only 4 teams left?) so that could be either in Switzerland (which is to be believed as per the timeline) or Germany.

With that in mind, I'm going to speculate Chuck and Wynona to be the next to go, it's whether we will see them saved by a NEL prior to their departure
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on April 01, 2013, 08:32:13 AM
Based on our caps/sightings for Scotland so far, we have 4 places:

The Royal Mile
Craigmillar Castle
Duddingston Kirk
Gosford House

The Royal Mile is probably where teams picked up their cars if they were getting directions in Cowgate, which isn't far from the Mile; Gosford House is most likely the Pit Stop. However, Craigmillar Castle and Duddingston Kirk are the ones which are slightly puzzling. Craigmillar Castle could be either a Detour or Roadblock, but Duddingston Kirk is quite a small graveyard, so potentially, depending on where it is in relation to other places possibly visited, could be a site of a Double U-Turn or a Speed Bump (which would imply an NEL in Germany). If it were to be a Double U-Turn, we would most likely see an NEL before that (as we have not had a Double U-Turn with only 4 teams left?) so that could be either in Switzerland (which is to be believed as per the timeline) or Germany.

With that in mind, I'm going to speculate Chuck and Wynona to be the next to go, it's whether we will see them saved by a NEL prior to their departure

It is the cold water swimming I want to hear about!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on April 02, 2013, 04:08:37 AM
Based on our caps/sightings for Scotland so far, we have 4 places:

The Royal Mile
Craigmillar Castle
Duddingston Kirk
Gosford House

The Royal Mile is probably where teams picked up their cars if they were getting directions in Cowgate, which isn't far from the Mile; Gosford House is most likely the Pit Stop. However, Craigmillar Castle and Duddingston Kirk are the ones which are slightly puzzling. Craigmillar Castle could be either a Detour or Roadblock, but Duddingston Kirk is quite a small graveyard, so potentially, depending on where it is in relation to other places possibly visited, could be a site of a Double U-Turn or a Speed Bump (which would imply an NEL in Germany). If it were to be a Double U-Turn, we would most likely see an NEL before that (as we have not had a Double U-Turn with only 4 teams left?) so that could be either in Switzerland (which is to be believed as per the timeline) or Germany.

With that in mind, I'm going to speculate Chuck and Wynona to be the next to go, it's whether we will see them saved by a NEL prior to their departure
At the bottom of page 24 I posted what they may be doing at Duddingston Kirk:
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Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
« Reply #599 on: 19-02-2013, 11:25:51 »
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I'm going to guess that a detour in Edinburgh is could be Stones(curling) or Bowls(skittles) as next to Duddingston Kirk is Thomson's Tower - http://www.drneilsgarden.co.uk/history2.html which is where the rules of curling were first written down and where they stored the stones. There is also The Sheep Heid Inn - http://www.thesheepheidedinburgh.co.uk/offer/skittleslley/ which has Scotland's oldest surviving skittle alley.
As they probably flew into Edinburgh, I would guess that they picked the cars up at the Airport, as the only other options are taxi or Airport bus. There are two ways to get to Gosford House from the airport, the city bypass or through town. If they went through the town, it would be very easy to get lost in the city centre due to the ongoing tram works (from the Airport to the city centre).
Having spoken to someone who was at Craigmillar Castle on the Monday they were in Edinburgh, she said that there was some filming happening when she left, which I guess would have been late afternoon, which would correspond with the late afternoon sighting at the Holiday Inn in the Cowgate, so I would guess that the pitstop is at Craigmillar Castle, followed by the windsurfing/Gosford House/Duddingston Kirk on the Tuesday then maybe TBC pitstop to get to Belfast. Will add flights to the transportation thread.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: claude_24hrs on April 10, 2013, 08:18:42 AM
I think this leg could be our final NEL. That leaves 6 teams racing in Berlin, and the opportunity for a Double U-Turn, because with more teams racing, the better chances the U-Turns will be used. Fingers crossed!

I like Supah's theory. After Berlin, there are 5 teams racing in Edinburgh and the final four in Belfast. So, both UK legs are eliminations. In both Switzerland legs of TAR18, they're all elimination rounds.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on April 12, 2013, 01:15:31 PM
This is not a spoiler. It's an announcement from CBS about the AR22 finale on May 5:

After sprinting nearly 30,000 miles, over five continents and through nine countries, the final four Teams find themselves bog snorkeling in Belfast, Ireland where one Team's Race will come to an end. The final three Teams Race to our nation's capital where they'll scour some of Washington, D.C.'s most historic landmarks for the chance to be crowned this season's $1 million winners.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on April 12, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
6 teams leaving Africa and 4 arriving in Belfast means that there will be two eliminations total in Switzerland, Berlin and Edinburgh.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on April 12, 2013, 02:12:46 PM
6 teams leaving Africa and 4 arriving in Belfast means that there will be two eliminations total in Switzerland, Edinburgh and Glasgow Berlin.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: apskip on April 12, 2013, 05:12:24 PM
Mr. DS,

You are right. I was thinking the next 3 known legs but somehow wrote down Glasgow rather than Berlin. 
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Belle Book on April 13, 2013, 01:55:57 PM
This is not a spoiler. It's an announcement from CBS about the AR22 finale on May 5:

After sprinting nearly 30,000 miles, over five continents and through nine countries, the final four Teams find themselves bog snorkeling in Belfast, Ireland where one Team's Race will come to an end. The final three Teams Race to our nation's capital where they'll scour some of Washington, D.C.'s most historic landmarks for the chance to be crowned this season's $1 million winners.

Do we have any idea who will be eliminated before the Final 4?  I'm pretty sure that Chuck & Wynonna are one team but what about the other team?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Declive on April 13, 2013, 01:57:20 PM
Either Meghan & Joey or the Blondes . But most likely to be Meghan & Joey.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on April 13, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
Either Meghan & Joey or the Blondes . But most likely to be Meghan & Joey.

The blondes are safe up to Edinburgh and were believed to be sighted in Belfast as well
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 13, 2013, 08:38:46 PM
Either Meghan & Joey or the Blondes . But most likely to be Meghan & Joey.

The blondes are safe up to Edinburgh and were believed to be sighted in Belfast as well

I think Chynona gets eliminated tomorrow, then NEL, then Joey/Meghan.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on April 13, 2013, 11:44:23 PM
I think Chuck & Wynona will be eliminated in Switzerland, double U-turn in Germany, and then last NEL in Scotland
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: doremon.0504 on April 14, 2013, 12:40:24 AM
I think Chuck & Wynona will be eliminated in Switzerland, double U-turn in Germany, and then last NEL in Scotland
Max&Katie get U-Turn in Germany
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 14, 2013, 07:34:23 AM
Puuuuuuuuuuuure speculation ...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: David on April 14, 2013, 08:19:57 AM
I think Chuck & Wynona will be eliminated in Switzerland, double U-turn in Germany, and then last NEL in Scotland
Max&Katie get U-Turn in Germany

You mean there is a NEL that saves them?? If it is a Double U-Turn, they can then attack someone else. Moreover, this season U-Turns have not eliminated anytargeted teams, so, we could have a new curse in there? ??? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: David on April 14, 2013, 08:25:31 AM
I think this leg could be our final NEL. That leaves 6 teams racing in Berlin, and the opportunity for a Double U-Turn, because with more teams racing, the better chances the U-Turns will be used. Fingers crossed!

I like Supah's theory. After Berlin, there are 5 teams racing in Edinburgh and the final four in Belfast. So, both UK legs are eliminations. In both Switzerland legs of TAR18, they're all elimination rounds.

Not necessary to have 6 teams for the double U-Turn. Remember the Double U-Turn in TAR 17 Bangladesh?? Both used in F5.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Reilly Queens on April 14, 2013, 11:00:58 AM
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. @NoOppWasted love 2C the return of some memorable teams, working on it RT“@RudyRudy85 are we going to get an #AmazingRace AllStars ...?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: BuuYaa on April 14, 2013, 11:54:10 PM
I think this leg could be our final NEL. That leaves 6 teams racing in Berlin, and the opportunity for a Double U-Turn, because with more teams racing, the better chances the U-Turns will be used. Fingers crossed!

I like Supah's theory. After Berlin, there are 5 teams racing in Edinburgh and the final four in Belfast. So, both UK legs are eliminations. In both Switzerland legs of TAR18, they're all elimination rounds.

Not necessary to have 6 teams for the double U-Turn. Remember the Double U-Turn in TAR 17 Bangladesh?? Both used in F5.

Last season had a Double U-TURN in Amsterdam and that was FINAL 5
both were used
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MrDeerShank on April 15, 2013, 02:58:49 AM
Speculating that, if Germany is an NEL, we're gonna have a second Double U-Turn in Scotland
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 15, 2013, 04:18:55 AM
Germany seems like a Double Roadblock leg. So most likely the next leg is where the U-Turn pops out.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Videoizt on April 16, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
Hey, there are a couple of things I've noticed, although I'm not sure whether they've been discussed yet:

1. It's possible Joey & Meghan win TAR. According to a post on tumblr I've read, Joey and Meghan said they would buy a house with any prize money they get should they win in an interview. Coincidentally, Meghan moved house recently as she documents in some of her recent YT videos,

2. The Titanic Quarter was recently built in Belfast to commemorate those who died aboard the ship and has become a huge tourist attraction. The building is seen in the pre-roll before each episode begins when each team is being visually re-introduced. It's highly likely that there are challenges that take place here as there are ports, clubs, museums, arenas and a train station all within a 5 minute walk.

3. It is said that the final legs are going to be Scotland -> Northern Ireland / Northern Ireland -> Washington D.C.. It takes roughly an hour and a half by ferry to get from Scotland to Northern Ireland, and only 45 minutes by plane (this is all from experience). In my opinion, I think Switzerland -> Germany will be an elimination round, and Germany -> Scotland NEL as it would take so little time to get from Scotland to Northern Ireland, and that the last two episodes are being aired as back-to-backs. Which means there will be four teams up until the last two episodes.

4. Apparently, Joey Graceffa also commented on his twitter that he had visited Scotland meaning that both him and Meghan will survive for at least another 2 episodes.

If you can help me find proof for any of this (as I can't find a shred of any interviews or twitter comments!) I'm sure everyone would be very grateful!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 16, 2013, 10:07:03 PM
 :hello2: Welcome to RFF!

I'm not an expert on these things :lol: but I can vouch for the fact that Joey & Meghan probably don't win...

1. She couldn't have 'moved her house' already because they don't have the million dollars yet (they don't receive until after the finale is aired; or unless she used her own money).

2. Don't know how to respond to that?? ???

3. Same as #2.

4. Could have always been on a vacation in the past. IIRC, one of Idries & Jamil stated a list of places that they have visited.. some of which included the places that this season had gone to.. including D.C. .. and yet they didn't even make it to those parts of the Race. So we can't say that Joey & Meghan will survive for another 2 episodes.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Alenaveda on April 16, 2013, 10:21:28 PM
:hello2:  Videoizt and  :wel2 to the RFF!

About number 1:  we have sightings of the teams in the final leg in Washington, supported with pictures. You can check them in the corresponding thread:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,28045.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on April 17, 2013, 06:00:33 PM
About #4, usually by this point in the race with 5 teams and only a few legs left, the eliminated teams stay with the race through to the finish line. It makes little sense to send them halfway around the world to where the rest of the eliminated teams are staying then have them fly back to the finish line a few days later.  Also, the last couple of eliminated teams often run the final legs as decoys so if anyone is watching (like us), it is harder to tell who is racing at the end. So, it is very possible that Joey could have visited Scotland with the race even after being eliminated.

I wouldn't mind if Joey and Meghan stay around and are racing at the end as they don't bother me as much as they seem to bother many of the other people around here. It would be nice to see Meghan get a chance to shine and show her personality. Joey just overwhelms her it seems like. I don't feel like I know much about her. Back to the main point, unfortunately, all the evidence I've seen suggests Joey and Meghan don't make it through to the final legs.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 21, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Since there was a Bates & Anthony vs. Mona & Beth it'll be interesting to see that happen for the remainder for the Race.. especially the finale! (If both make it, which we're basically sure of.. right?)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Jimmer on April 21, 2013, 09:11:24 PM
No, the only team we are sure made the Final 3 is Max & Katie.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: MichaelFarrell on April 21, 2013, 10:19:41 PM
I believe that decoy teams go to the final city a day early, and two of the five teams (Mona & Beth) & (Bates & Anthony) were confirmed being seen in Washington D.C. so I concur that Joey and Meghan, Max and Katie, and Caroline and Jen are the Final 3 Teams. Just speculation though.



Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Theo on April 21, 2013, 10:21:53 PM
 :bigwelcome to RFF, MichaelFarrell.

As far as we know, we didn't have any evidence that Joey & Meghan were racing in D.C., CMIIW.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on April 21, 2013, 10:37:52 PM
However, something comes up to my mind that is really intriguing. Does anybody ever imagined why Joey & Meghan are making the recap video of each leg? I mean, has anyone imagined what if they were eliminated at early leg? Is it a bit useless and incomplete to make the recap just for some episodes/legs until you're eliminated?

I think that Joey & Meghan are making their recap video on their own YouTube channel because they know all the legs in detail, which includes the final leg. So, even that there's no proof that Joey & Meghan are in the final 3, but I speculate that they're one of the final 3 teams, just because their effort to make each legs recap. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kacper on April 21, 2013, 10:41:02 PM
Well didn't Kevin (from season 17) do recaps on his YouTube account too? They came in 7th place overall..
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Kamineko on April 21, 2013, 11:05:11 PM
Well didn't Kevin (from season 17) do recaps on his YouTube account too? They came in 7th place overall..
I didn't watched it. And it's just my speculation. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2013, 11:07:23 PM
recaps would have to be approved by WRP/CBS...so I wouldn't read anything into that...
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: redskevin88 on April 22, 2013, 05:57:46 AM
4. Could have always been on a vacation in the past. IIRC, one of Idries & Jamil stated a list of places that they have visited.. some of which included the places that this season had gone to.. including D.C. .. and yet they didn't even make it to those parts of the Race. So we can't say that Joey & Meghan will survive for another 2 episodes.

They did visit D.C.

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It's the finish line, they have to be there.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 22, 2013, 06:09:09 AM
I don't think I said they didn't?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: ruadhan on April 24, 2013, 09:31:11 PM
:cmas20
From a good friend/anonymous for now(with their permission), spoiler tag for large pic
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(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s430/Aero-Hollister/AnonSource1.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s430/Aero-Hollister/AnonSource2.jpg)

Is it just me or do these pictures from the live sighting thread make the hockey brothers and roller derby look like decoys..

Mona or Beth is in the first pic getting clue from woman... Which is something they've done in the past for decoy teams.. Is that not quite conclusive??

Also in the second picture, the brothers are just ahead of the moms.. both seemingly without cameras.. I dont know. To me anyway this definitely makes the moms look like decoys and possibly the brothers too which is interesting when you think we  thought they were both final three.... I guess we'll see on sunday. If its true it would mean one or both of the blondes and youtube must make the final which would surprise me!

EDIT: Actually scratch that. You can see a guy with blue jacket, illuminous shoes and short dark hair running behind anthony... its obviously max so this is most definitely our final three then.. I still dont get the woman handing clues though.. seems like such a decoy thing
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2013, 09:42:44 PM
Just for the record....

We have not seen ANY teams run a decoy during a Finale leg in many many seasons.  Elim'd teams have very frequently done some airport running around however before going to the Finale Mat.

So ...THREE teams seen in DC.  Take it FWIW, but nothing is ever set in stone....
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: maf on April 25, 2013, 12:38:57 AM
We have not seen ANY teams run a decoy during a Finale leg in many many seasons.  Elim'd teams have very frequently done some airport running around however before going to the Finale Mat.

Didn't we see the twinnies do the pizza task in the last season?
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2013, 07:48:31 AM
We have not seen ANY teams run a decoy during a Finale leg in many many seasons.  Elim'd teams have very frequently done some airport running around however before going to the Finale Mat.

Didn't we see the twinnies do the pizza task in the last season?

Absolutely right. Yes, twins and Ryan/Abbie. I should have said:

We have not seen ANY teams run a decoy during a Finale leg in many many seasons, until last season.  Elim'd teams have very frequently done some airport running around however before going to the Finale Mat.
 
So the use of decoys in the final leg is of course possible. There were also rumors last year of possibly using false teams as decoys along the way.
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2013, 09:26:15 AM
Just for the record....

We have not seen ANY teams run a decoy during a Finale leg in many many seasons, until last season.  Elim'd teams have very frequently done some airport running around however before going to the Finale Mat.

So ...THREE teams seen in DC airport.  Take it FWIW, but nothing is ever set in stone....

Thanks maf for the correction. I didn't realize that my wording was implying the exact opposite of what I was trying to say.  :crazy:
 
Fixed. And read the LIVE Spoilers everyone!!
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Chateau d If on April 28, 2013, 06:24:25 PM
Purely spec:   ;)

Belfast Opera House

(http://www.gate1travel.com/europe-travel/photos/Belfast-Opera-House.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ye7PIyIcCro?t=50s&amp;hl

Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: TARFansurvivor on May 02, 2013, 12:34:48 PM
Purely spec:   ;)

Belfast Opera House

(http://www.gate1travel.com/europe-travel/photos/Belfast-Opera-House.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ye7PIyIcCro?t=50s&amp;hl

How about The Giant's Causeway and Causeway Coast as the pitstop????
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Mattjimf on May 03, 2013, 01:57:27 AM
Too far from Belfast
Title: Re: TAR 22 Speculation and Discussion **of Spoilers**
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 29, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
I don't believe we ever figured out where eliminated teams were sequestered for TAR 22. After reading the following Twitter conversation, I still believe we don't know where the teams were sequestered. But I was amused.  ;)

Esper Tortuga ‏@EsperVieyra 10h
I found out my friend's mom works at the hotel Joey Graceffa stayed at for over a month when filming the Amazing Race in Arizona. I jelly.

moti duh ‏@smoshersnorlax 10h
@EsperVieyra Well he's not there anymore so the magic has gone haha

Esper Tortuga ‏@EsperVieyra 10h
@smoshersnorlax yes but I could have gone over there and maybe met him. I only live an hour from the Grand Canyon where he was

moti duh ‏@smoshersnorlax 10h
@EsperVieyra Oh I get you now! That would have been awesome

Esper Tortuga ‏@EsperVieyra 10h
@smoshersnorlax yeah. hopefully I get to meet him at VidCon though :D

moti duh ‏@smoshersnorlax 10h
@EsperVieyra Yeah that should be good :D