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Title: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Oddarane on September 29, 2012, 11:40:08 AM
Does anyone know when abouts TAR 22 starts filming?
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: TexasLady on September 29, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
I don't know but I saw this last night on CBS.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: amazinglatinoamericafan on September 29, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
that maybe tar 23 and tar 22 may start in novemer
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: Mug Costanza on September 29, 2012, 01:07:22 PM
I think they've been able to fit the even-numbered seasons between Thanksgiving and Christmas lately, but that's not a hard and fast rule.
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: Alenaveda on September 30, 2012, 08:56:35 AM
Yeap, at leat last season started last week of November.
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: DrRox on September 30, 2012, 09:04:28 AM
The USA has a national holiday called Thanksgiving Day on the 4th Thursday in November. TAR seems to like to start filming on the Sat after this holiday. I suspect work rules concerning overtime pay for the crew is probably pretty high if they are actually working on that holiday. Since TAR has gotten very good at filming a whole season in 21-23 days....that gives them time to film a season between Thanksgiving and Christmas and not have to pay that overtime penalty.
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: theschnauzers on September 30, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
The one element we can't be sure of is when the filming for a particular locale has to take place at a particular time, or that they need to avoid at a particular time due to national or cultural factors. This was never more clear than in TARAS when teams were delayed traveling in Africa due to travel for a religious holiday or festival that congested flights all over the African continent.

That's an element that is hard to predict unless we know the itinerary beforehand (boy wouldn't that be fun!) but it is a factor that TPTB have learned they needed to deal with in planning, and that might dictate an earlier or later start to filming.
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: georgiapeach on September 30, 2012, 11:35:03 AM
Late-ish Nov as far as we know now. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: aj_0852 on October 12, 2012, 07:19:43 AM
Will this help? hmmm

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/Phil/PhilrePhilippines.jpg)
 
edited to embed message
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: Air on October 12, 2012, 07:21:55 AM
I so hope that is true.
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: Jobby on October 12, 2012, 12:32:39 PM
Will this help? hmmm

OMGOMGOMG. PLEASE. :wohoo: Philippines PLEASE!
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: Charlie90 on October 12, 2012, 01:13:33 PM
Philippines would be cool. It's been a long time since they went there.
Also..new country please!! At least one
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: addie on October 12, 2012, 01:24:43 PM
OMG! So cool!  :)
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: supah on October 12, 2012, 10:04:29 PM
New APPS!!

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We are casting!!!!

Welcome to The Amazing Race online casting site. We are happy to let you know, that we are casting another season. We are looking for outgoing, adventurous, competitive and humorous teams of two.

The online appication (from this site) ,  home video and photos are all due on April 25th at 12pm (noon) PDT.

These will be considered for the 2012-2013 casting season. Calls will most likely go out in June and July, 2012 

The filiming dates for the season we are casting is early November, 2012.

 
 
http://www.theamazingracecasting.com/Home (http://www.theamazingracecasting.com/Home)


Early November? Philippines needs a revisit ASAP
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: gigglypiggies on October 21, 2012, 06:20:56 PM


Early November? Philippines needs a revisit ASAP
[/quote]

^^^ THIS. After seeing the phillipines in survivor this season, I have noticed how amazing it actually is. So beautiful!
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: Harry4 on October 24, 2012, 09:44:07 AM
 :ghug: Australia and  New Zealand for TAR 22 hopefully. 
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: Charlie90 on October 24, 2012, 09:01:08 PM
On of two. I would prefer New Zealand. Besides how about they use another country from Oceania? Papua New Guinea or Fiji....
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: ZouLy on October 24, 2012, 09:32:04 PM

Also beware of other franchises going around the world :)

last year we had a crash with TAR Aus 2..
Title: Re: TAR 22
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 24, 2012, 10:09:26 PM
On of two. I would prefer New Zealand. Besides how about they use another country from Oceania? Papua New Guinea or Fiji....
Yeah, Fiji is definitely on my TAR wishlist.

And...
Will this help? hmmm
:conf: :conf:
Philippines on TAR22 please!  Looking forward to "Pig or Jig" 4.0  :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on October 25, 2012, 03:04:59 AM
New Zealand, Beijing, Philippines. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ilhamrizki on October 25, 2012, 03:40:12 AM
Hopefully back to Indonesia.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on October 25, 2012, 03:42:29 AM
NZ, Sri Lanka/Nepal and the Middle East  :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: addie on October 25, 2012, 03:44:42 AM
Hopefully not back to Indonesia.

And London, Sri Lanka and NZ.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on October 25, 2012, 03:47:20 AM
Hopefully back to Indonesia.

lol please no i need a break  :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on October 25, 2012, 04:28:59 AM
Hopefully back to Indonesia.

lol please no i need a break  :lol:

even though I'm Indonesian but I have to agree with supah3ro, I think Oceania deserves a chance to visit... ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on October 25, 2012, 09:06:50 AM
Spec is fine, but let's put wishlists elsewhere, okay?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on October 25, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
I think its a prime time to visit New Zealand, especially with it being "olympic year" and New Zealand having lots of sports types(like the bridge fall in southern nz)
 and with the tweet, Philippines can be visited to, maybe TAR5 esque route?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on October 25, 2012, 05:54:47 PM
My Predicitons:
1. A reverse season 13 route.
(North America-Europe-Asia-Oceania-South America-North America)
2. Australia wont be visited, but 2 legs will be spent in New Zealand.
3. No legs in South Asia.
4. Patagonia :hrt:

Those are all my predicitions. I would be surprised if this came true at all.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 25, 2012, 06:11:33 PM
I agree with Kandace, New Zealand is most likely and it will be the second visit to Oceania for the first leg after Unfinished Business (where returning teams traveled from U.S. to Australia), that will make three Oceania legs and it will be the first since 20 seasons ago.

Then, it will be Asia and the Philippines leg would be planned as possible, seen from Phil's tweet in the previous page.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Theo on October 25, 2012, 06:14:56 PM
I think they will visit England, following TAR tradition to visit Summer Olympic host country.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: topaz on October 25, 2012, 10:13:47 PM
I want Philippines, Kenya in Africa, more Ireland, Norway and Belgium in Europe and more Australia as well and please no more India and China. :hello2:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Air on October 26, 2012, 06:07:32 AM
My route spec:

L1: Los Angeles - NZ (Auckland) (about 100 % according to me)
L2: Auckland - Rural NZ/Melbourne/Fiji
L3: Rural NZ/Melbourne/Fiji - Melbourne/Fiji/Philippines
L4:Melbourne/Fiji/Philippines - Philippines/India
L5: Philippines/India - India
L6: India - Finland/Africa
L7: Finland/Africa - Latvia/Africa
L8: Latvia/Africa - England/Finland/Slovenia
L9: England/Finland/Slovenia - Finland/Slovenia
L10: Finland/Slovenia - Portugal/Africa
L11: Portugal/Africa - Portugal
L12: Portugal - US
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ovalorange on October 26, 2012, 06:28:28 AM
L1: Los Angeles - NZ (Auckland) (about 100 % according to me)

You're 100% certain on Auckland?? :o Cause I don't think anyone was remotely close with Shanghai last season :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Theo on October 26, 2012, 06:49:46 AM
Hopefully back to Indonesia.

lol please no i need a break  :lol:

even though I'm Indonesian but I have to agree with supah3ro, I think Oceania deserves a chance to visit... ;)
Yeah, me too :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Air on October 26, 2012, 07:14:07 AM
L1: Los Angeles - NZ (Auckland) (about 100 % according to me)

You're 100% certain on Auckland?? :o Cause I don't think anyone was remotely close with Shanghai last season :lol:

Fine, 99.9%  :lol:

It is a spec thread, so everyone could be wrong.  :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Dom on October 26, 2012, 02:42:58 PM
I think we're going to see long overdue visits to Spain, New Zealand and Malta and perhaps even a new country in Africa like Gambia!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on October 26, 2012, 04:03:53 PM
Again, spec based on something is fine. If it is just something you WANT to see,  it is a wishlist and should go into that thread please.

And we had Spain THIS season.... :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jimmer on October 26, 2012, 05:57:53 PM
I'm think we might see somewhere around the area of Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Slovakia, and Hungary, all of which hasn't been visited in Post All-Stars. I think we could also see Laos, Vietnam, the Philippines, as well as Oceania (Which is due for a visit).
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 26, 2012, 09:14:18 PM
I bet if the next season will follow TAR21's format, it will be no new countries race. Sri Lanka, Greece and Peru (all are pre-All Stars countries) will plan as second-time visits as well.

I also think the penultimate leg will be in South American non-Brazil country, Peru.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Mug Costanza on October 26, 2012, 09:24:42 PM
In case anyone was curious, here's the current list of US Travel Advisories:

Quote
Tunisia    10/19/2012
Colombia    10/03/2012
Pakistan    09/19/2012
Lebanon    09/17/2012
Sudan    09/15/2012
Algeria    09/13/2012
Libya    09/12/2012
Korea, Democratic People's Republic of    09/11/2012
Republic of South Sudan   09/10/2012
Guinea    09/07/2012
Mali    08/29/2012
Syria    08/28/2012
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza    08/10/2012
Iraq    08/09/2012
Congo, Democratic Republic of the    08/02/2012
Central African Republic    07/11/2012
Kenya    07/05/2012
Afghanistan    06/27/2012
Nigeria    06/21/2012
Haiti    06/18/2012
Somalia    06/15/2012
Philippines    06/14/2012
Mauritania    05/24/2012
Saudi Arabia   05/18/2012
Iran    04/27/2012
Cote d'Ivoire   04/23/2012
Burundi    04/18/2012
Eritrea    04/18/2012
Mali    04/09/2012
Niger    04/06/2012
Chad    03/29/2012
Yemen   03/27/2012
Mexico   02/08/2012

Source: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on October 26, 2012, 09:29:21 PM
Wasn't there one on Indonesia when TAR19 visited?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on October 26, 2012, 09:32:37 PM
I think we're going to see long overdue visits to Spain, New Zealand and Malta and perhaps even a new country in Africa like Gambia!

I think we're going to see long overdue visits to Spain, New Zealand and Malta and perhaps even a new country in Africa like Gambia!

 :stare
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Alenaveda on October 26, 2012, 10:00:02 PM
When race has started in SA

new-brazil
new-uruguay
new-peru
old-brazil
new-ecuador
old-brazil
old-chile
old-argentina

new? for s22 Venezuela is the only option.

Peach what do you think will be some destinations visited?

And Colombia.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on October 26, 2012, 10:59:28 PM
South Asia has been completely skipped in the following seasons:
2
3
9
11
15
16
19
Maybe we're due for no South Asia this season?
However Sri Lanka has been named the top destination to visit in 2013 so I wouldn't be surprised if they go there.

Africa is always unpredictable - we weren't expecting it in TAR20

Latin America/Brazil is hard to say. I think would either be the opening legs or the penultimate legs. The seasons that went to South America first generally spent a bit more time there (as in more than one leg). That happened in seasons:
2
5
7
9
11
13
16
20
We definitely could be due for South America, but I think Europe deserves a shot at Leg 1 again.

I predict we're looking at:
a TAR13 route in the OPPOSITE direction
OR
a TAR18 route
OR
a TAR14 route (especially considering a tight budget)


ETA: I also think we may have an Olympic season by following the trend!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 27, 2012, 12:02:28 AM
South Asia has been completely skipped in the following seasons:
2
3
9
11
15
16
19
Maybe we're due for no South Asia this season?
However Sri Lanka has been named the top destination to visit in 2013 so I wouldn't be surprised if they go there.

Africa is always unpredictable - we weren't expecting it in TAR20

Latin America/Brazil is hard to say. I think would either be the opening legs or the penultimate legs. The seasons that went to South America first generally spent a bit more time there (as in more than one leg). That happened in seasons:
2
5
7
9
11
13
16
20
We definitely could be due for South America, but I think Europe deserves a shot at Leg 1 again.

I predict we're looking at:
a TAR13 route in the OPPOSITE direction
OR
a TAR18 route
OR
a TAR14 route (especially considering a tight budget)


ETA: I also think we may have an Olympic season by following the trend!

Supah3ro, here the other Asian regions have skipped in the following seasons:
Southeast Asia - 6, 7, 12, 17, 18, 20
East Asia - 3, 5, 7, 13

Enough of East Asia already. No more China and Japan.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Dom on October 27, 2012, 12:26:26 AM
I think we're going to see long overdue visits to Spain, New Zealand and Malta and perhaps even a new country in Africa like Gambia!

I think we're going to see long overdue visits to Spain, New Zealand and Malta and perhaps even a new country in Africa like Gambia!

 :stare

None of them came true so I repeated my prediction (with the exception of Spain, but I'm thinking Madrid and Barcelona, not the islands). Nice to know you're cross checking though!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on October 27, 2012, 01:04:27 AM
TAR22 Predictions!

Countries in bold are the ones I think we might see on TAR22!

Central/South America

I’m going to rule out Central America now. It would make a great penultimate leg but I just don’t see them going there.

As for South America, we are due for a visit, whether it be the opening legs or the penultimate legs. I don’t see them going to Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay or Paraguay anytime soon. I don’t see them going to the north coast either (the most likely candidate would be Venezuela, but I doubt it). I think if South America is visited, we will need to keep an eye out on Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia. All three countries have so much on offer and as they are close together I could see them doing some country hopping. As all of them have only been visited once, any of them are possible.

Europe

TAR21 had a very Europe centric route, so we wont be spending as much time there, possibly 2 or 3 legs.

Western Europe is unlikely as TAR21 hosted 2 legs there (France and Netherlands) however due to TAR’s Olympic trend, I could see them doing a leg somewhere in the United Kingdom, but that’s it.

Scandinavia would be way to cold, but that doesn’t stop them. Denmark was recently visited, along with Sweden. Norway and Finland are both possible but Finland is more likely. I doubt they’ll make it there though.

The Mediterranean countries hosted 2 legs in TAR21 (Turkey and Spain), and Italy was in TAR20, Greece and Cyprus are unlikely, so I would rule this region out.

Central Europe has hosted 7 legs in the past 7 seasons CMIIW. I don’t see them going there anytime soon.

Eastern Europe is definitely a top contender. Russia is highly unlikely. The Baltic States are very undervisited, and Latvia is definitely due to host leg, but I think they will save it for another season. The only other possibilities I can think of are Poland, Hungary and Slovakia. However Poland and Hungary were visited only once a long time ago and Slovakia has never been visited. I can’t see them visiting Slovakia but Poland and Hungary are very possible as they have been visited in recent foregin editions.

We should keep our eye out for Yugoslavia for this season, and if they go there, I’m sure it will be a new country. I’d put my money on Slovenia and Albania, as I think they’re the most stable.

Africa

Africa is so unpredictable. North Africa is due for a re-visit, but I don’t see them going there. West Africa will be saved for later. I’m thinking East Africa or Central Africa. A visit back to Victoria Falls would be amazing but I doubt it.  In East Africa, I could see them going to Ethiopia for a re-visit, but pretty unlikely. For Central Africa, Uganda or Rwanda would be the best possibilities, however I’d go with Uganda. Though I wont be surprised if we don’t see Africa at all.

Middle East

Definitely coming soon, but more likely for TAR23.

Asia

Central Asia is tough. None of us were expecting Azerbaijan in TAR20 so I don’t know what to say. Out of the region I’d say Armenia and Uzbekistan, however I doubt they’ll go there at all. If they do go I’m sticking with Uzbekistan.

For South Asia, Bangladesh and India are in need of a rest. Lonely Planet named Sri Lanka the top destination to visit in 2013, plus the appearance of Natalie & Nadiya on TAR21 could also bring them there. Phil has claimed he would love to go to Nepal but I think Sri Lanka is more likely. However I wouldn’t be surprised if they give South Asia a break this season.

South East Asia needs a break, but that doesn’t stop WRP. We assumed Laos was our last minute cancellation leg in TAR19, but I think they’ll save it for TAR23. Philippines is the top contender here. It has not been visited for a very long time and after TAR Philippines and other foreign editions going there, we may see it!

No Japan. South Korea is unlikely but always remains a possibility. Definitely China.  Even though Shanghai was visited in TAR21 they probably want to explore another region, much like the TAR18 China legs. They will probably spend 2 legs there, I would predict Chengdu as one.

Oceania

Australia is unlikely, there’s not much left to see. New Zealand is a huge possibility. Not only is Phil from NZ, but after the Christchurch earthquakes and the oil spill, they probably want to help NZ with some tourism advertising. Not to mention NZ is at its prime during this time of the year. Phil has also claimed he would love to see the Pacific, and as Australia and NZ have plenty of direct flights to the island nations, its very likely will we see one if the race does go to New Zealand. I would predict Vanuatu.

Starting/Final Destination

Maybe a chance we wont be departing from LAX? Hopefully. If Europe’s first, we may have an east coast start. If New Zealand is first we’ll probably leave from LA.

For the final destination, it’s hard to say.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: addie on October 27, 2012, 03:04:22 AM
In case anyone was curious, here's the current list of US Travel Advisories:

Quote
Tunisia    10/19/2012
Colombia    10/03/2012
Pakistan    09/19/2012
Lebanon    09/17/2012
Sudan    09/15/2012
Algeria    09/13/2012
Libya    09/12/2012
Korea, Democratic People's Republic of    09/11/2012
Republic of South Sudan   09/10/2012
Guinea    09/07/2012
Mali    08/29/2012
Syria    08/28/2012
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza    08/10/2012
Iraq    08/09/2012
Congo, Democratic Republic of the    08/02/2012
Central African Republic    07/11/2012
Kenya    07/05/2012
Afghanistan    06/27/2012
Nigeria    06/21/2012
Haiti    06/18/2012
Somalia    06/15/2012
Philippines    06/14/2012
Mauritania    05/24/2012
Saudi Arabia   05/18/2012
Iran    04/27/2012
Cote d'Ivoire   04/23/2012
Burundi    04/18/2012
Eritrea    04/18/2012
Mali    04/09/2012
Niger    04/06/2012
Chad    03/29/2012
Yemen   03/27/2012
Mexico   02/08/2012

Source: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html)
Kenya being on this list </3
It is safe there, I've just been there. Just don't go to a random village in the north, stay in Mombasa or the national parks.  ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: David on October 27, 2012, 02:31:20 PM
Having TAR 18, 19 and 21 starting in Oceania or Asia, I think this time, it will start Central or Southern America, or even Europe. About the TAR13 route made backwards, I don't think so. TAR is recently skipping a continent per season, and sometimes two, trying to make things cheaper; visiting all continents would be expensive with flights and such, and I am almost sure there are only 3/4 continents visited.

Visits to Spain could be amazing, since we've seen Barcelona, and will get to see Mallorca in a few weeks, but I think Spain is MUUUCH more than that (if you think about traditions in Spain, none of them are from Barcelona nor Mallorca, for example). I should also say that the Tomatina is made in a town near Valencia, and that could be a great Switchback task sometimes, but I also don't thi they will come back in, at least, five seasons or more. Hope to be wrong in that. I just expect to get online much often and try to catch anything to help this time. Wanna get spoiled.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 27, 2012, 03:36:12 PM
Season 22 already?! Wow, time sure flies. :stare:

I'm hoping they will do a unique, messed up route like this:
Leg 1 (United States --> New Zealand) / San Francisco, CA to Christchurch & Dunedin
Leg 2 (New Zealand) / Auckland revisit
Leg 3 (New Zealand --> Australia) / Tasmania
Leg 4 (Australia --> Philippines) / Manila & Quezon City
Leg 5 (Philippines --> Brunei) / Bandar
Leg 6 (Brunei) / Random village :hearts:
Leg 7 (Brunei --> Uganda) / Kampala
Leg 8 (Uganda --> Greece) / Athens
Leg 9 (Greece --> Poland) / Warsaw
Leg 10 (Poland) / Krakow
Leg 11 (Poland --> Wales) / Random cultural locations :hearts:
Leg 12 (Wales --> United States) / to Buffalo, NY
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on October 28, 2012, 01:30:25 AM
Oh and I think Bulgaria might be featured. Just a feeling :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Remembers on October 28, 2012, 04:06:52 AM
I think this season will have a leg or two in India, China, and United Arab Emirates. They seem to love India in the race too.

Ideally I think it may be.

Leg 1 - (United States - > Australia)
Leg 2 - (Australia)
Leg 3 - (Australia -> Philippines)
Leg 4 - (Philippines -> Malaysia)
Leg 5 - (Malaysia -> China)
Leg 6 - (China -> India)
Leg 7 - (India -> United Arab Emirates)
Leg 8 - (United Arab Emirates)
Leg 9 - (United Arab Emirates -> Italy)
Leg 10 - (Italy -> Germany)
Leg 11 - (Germany)
Leg 12 - (Germany -> United States)

Or realistically

Leg 1 - (United States -> Australia)
Leg 2 - (Australia - > Japan)
Leg 3 - (Japan -> Cambodia)
Leg 4 - (Cambodia-> Laos)
Leg 5 - (Laos -> China)
Leg 6 - (China -> India)
Leg 7 - (India)
Leg 8 - (India -> United Arab Emirates)
Leg 9 - (United Arab Emirates -> Sweden)
Leg 10 - (Sweden -> Norway)
Leg 11 - (Norway)
Leg 12 - (Norway - United States)

I don't think these would be bad routes and realistic if they travel directly to Australia.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Harry4 on October 28, 2012, 09:39:13 AM
 :( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: gigglypiggies on October 28, 2012, 10:07:45 AM
I am actually thinking/hoping that they may try for every inhabited continent again. They haven't done that since season 5 I think...and they are slowly building their budget back up. So why not?

If they don't go to Australia/New Zealand next season I will be super surprised. And Africa is pretty much a guarantee if they aren't going to Africa this season. South America/Latin America is a possibility since it isn't being visited this season, but definitely not a guarantee.

I just am hoping for Dubai, Switzerland, and Philippines. Dubai always gives some of the best legs, and the Philippines are such an amazing place. Switzerland is awesome, too. I wouldn't mind a revisit to some secluded tropical islands ala Seychelles, or even some areas in the Mediterranean. Malaysia would be cool. Middle Eastern countries would be awesome too, but really, that isn't all that likely.

So my guess (a little bit of realistic mixed with a little bit of hope, lol):

Leg 1: Venezuela
Leg 2: Guyana
Leg 3: Morocco
Leg 4: Morocco
Leg 5: Dubai
Leg 6: Belgium
Leg 7: Switzerland
Leg 8: Japan
Leg 9: Japan
Leg 10: Philippines
Leg 11: Australia/New Zealand
Leg 12: Home
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jimmer on October 28, 2012, 03:44:53 PM
Am I the only person that thinks Africa will not be visited?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on October 28, 2012, 03:50:11 PM
Am I the only person that thinks Africa will not be visited?

Nope. I think they will save africa for season 23.
Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on October 28, 2012, 03:54:29 PM
Am I the only person that thinks Africa will not be visited?

Yes. :lol:

.
Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?

Yes. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on October 28, 2012, 04:07:24 PM
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on October 28, 2012, 05:40:53 PM
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

supah3ro speaks the truth...  ;)

I live in Melbourne for almost four years now, indeed only buildings and parks and gardens, though it's a very much multicultural city but there's not much significant of the indigenous culture to be explored, unless you went to the outback.

The only suburban areas that is really interesting for TAR to visit (via Melbourne) is the ancient gold town Ballarat (Sovereign Hill), Phillip Island (lots of holiday attraction, including MotoGP venue), otherwise it's gonna be a waste of episode if they came to Melbourne only for rapelling down the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground, the starting line for TARAus-1) or climbing the 88 floors of Eureka tower...  :(

Not that I don't want them to not coming down under to Australia, but it's just.... like..that...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Air on October 29, 2012, 04:29:40 AM
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

Uhh supah3ro I live in Melbourne and there's a lot to do. You could have a double leg based entirely in Victoria (self driving). The first leg could be AFL & Eureka Tower, with some stops at Great Ocean Road and Phillip Island, the second leg you go to Ballarat and do Eureka Stockade/Gold rush tasks or you could go to the Murray or even Wilsons Prom.  (This is a very long two self driving legs but I could spoil it all :lol: ).
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on October 29, 2012, 08:55:22 AM
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

Uhh supah3ro I live in Melbourne and there's a lot to do. You could have a double leg based entirely in Victoria (self driving). The first leg could be AFL & Eureka Tower, with some stops at Great Ocean Road and Phillip Island, the second leg you go to Ballarat and do Eureka Stockade/Gold rush tasks or you could go to the Murray or even Wilsons Prom.  (This is a very long two self driving legs but I could spoil it all :lol: ).

They have never been to Tasmania, so they could first go to Melbourne and then go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: DrRox on October 29, 2012, 11:33:02 AM
After Africa was missed completely I think we will have 2 legs in one country there, possibly a new country like Uganda.


Yeah, I am sure that Uganda is at the top of Bertram's list. With the outbreak last week of Marburg Haemorrhagic  Fevor.....gives new meaning to "surviving" the leg.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: mjriches2005 on October 29, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
This is pure speculation, not a wish wist.

Starting Line: Minneapolis, Houston, Denver, Phoenix, Detroit, Washington DC, Portland-OR, or San Francisco
Visits to:
Brazil (Amazon River/Brasilia), Colombia (Bogota), or Peru (Macchu Pichu)
Southern Africa or West Central Africa (Gabon or Cameroon)
Europe (England-2012 Olympics, Scotland, Germany, Slovakia, Serbia, Slovenia, or Hungary)
Middle East/Central Asia (Kyrgyzstan, Tel Aviv, or Jordan)
Siberia (Irkutsk/Lake Baikal)
Eastern Asia (Macau, Central Vietnam, Chiang Mai, or Laos)
Philippines (Manila, Laoag City, or Palawan)
Oceania (Palau, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, or Fiji)
Canada (Vancouver-2010 Winter Olympics)
Finish Line (Seattle, Portland, or San Diego)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Tarfan37 on October 29, 2012, 04:27:58 PM
I think Jamaica has a good shot of returning. 1. they have had a miami starting line 2. last time we have seen it was s7. 3. they have never went to the carabiean to start of the race. theyve been to every other contintent first...
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on October 30, 2012, 01:38:58 AM
Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27942.0;attach=218154;image)

After Africa was missed completely I think we will have 2 legs in one country there, possibly a new country like Uganda.


Yeah, I am sure that Uganda is at the top of Bertram's list. With the outbreak last week of Marburg Haemorrhagic  Fevor.....gives new meaning to "surviving" the leg.


 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ilhamrizki on October 30, 2012, 03:06:20 AM
Well because everyone does not want to Indonesia :'( :'(. It is true anyway, better to Indonesia during the dry season because the weather was very hot at that time. :lol:

My prediction for this season :
Leg 01 : USA - Qatar
Leg 02 : Qatar - India/Sri Lanka
Leg 03 : India/Sri Lanka - Japan
Leg 04 : Japan - Ethiopia
Leg 05 : Ethiopia
Leg 06 : Ethiopia - Greece
Leg 07 : Greece - Croatia
Leg 08 : Croatia
Leg 09 : Croatia - Trinad & Tobago
Leg 10 : Trinad & Tobago - Peru
Leg 11 : Peru
Leg 12 : Peru - USA (Hopefully at San Francisco)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Air on October 30, 2012, 05:28:03 AM
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

Uhh supah3ro I live in Melbourne and there's a lot to do. You could have a double leg based entirely in Victoria (self driving). The first leg could be AFL & Eureka Tower, with some stops at Great Ocean Road and Phillip Island, the second leg you go to Ballarat and do Eureka Stockade/Gold rush tasks or you could go to the Murray or even Wilsons Prom.  (This is a very long two self driving legs but I could spoil it all :lol: ).

They have never been to Tasmania, so they could first go to Melbourne and then go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If people are going to say Melbourne is bad, Tasmania is A LOT worse.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Theo on October 30, 2012, 09:53:31 AM
Why is Tasmania bad, Airlinesguy?

Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Theo on October 30, 2012, 09:55:02 AM
Anyway, do you guys think that it will be filming at early November? Then it's just few more days :hoot:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on October 30, 2012, 10:25:16 AM
:( So supah3ro, there is not much more to see in Australia, since TAR 9, Australia has only been a destination once (TAR 18). There has been 6 times in India, 8 in China (including Hong Kong and Macau, 4 times in Japan, even 3 in Austria and Russia. Also we have had India in Seasons 18 and 20, and Indonesia in 19 and 21. So it is about time we have Australia as a destination also it would be good to see New Zealand in TAR 22.

So supah3ro,would like to get a response why you made that statement about Australia and what is your reasoning behind the comment.

I live in Australia and I have travelled around Australia. This place is in no shortage of an amazing landscape, but what we don't have is any type of culture. The only real culture here is Indigenous Australian culture, and TAR has already done that before. Not to mention as Leafsfan said, it's so expensive to film here. Normally when they come here they go from big city to outback city. The only big city left is Melbourne, and Melbourne is just buildings. They could do a leg somewhere in the outback, but it'll probably be crap cuz there's nothing to do. Unless you want them to dress up as kangaroos and hop around...

Uhh supah3ro I live in Melbourne and there's a lot to do. You could have a double leg based entirely in Victoria (self driving). The first leg could be AFL & Eureka Tower, with some stops at Great Ocean Road and Phillip Island, the second leg you go to Ballarat and do Eureka Stockade/Gold rush tasks or you could go to the Murray or even Wilsons Prom.  (This is a very long two self driving legs but I could spoil it all :lol: ).

They have never been to Tasmania, so they could first go to Melbourne and then go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If people are going to say Melbourne is bad, Tasmania is A LOT worse.

I don`t think that Melbourne and Tasmania can be more worse, then leg 3-4-5 this season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Declive on October 30, 2012, 11:44:18 AM
God , i hope it's early November!  :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2012, 12:01:04 PM
Hmmm. 

IF there was supposed to be an East Coast start, wonder IF/how long we could be delayed or rescheduled due to Hurricane Sandy? ???

Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on October 30, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
they should start or finish either in Baltimore or Washington D.C  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Declive on October 30, 2012, 12:18:44 PM
they should start or finish either in Baltimore or Washington D.C  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:

finish , please  :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2012, 12:29:23 PM
Start (or finish) there would be lovely!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Declive on October 30, 2012, 12:30:57 PM
Hoping to see Africa/South America and more Oceania!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: choroneko on October 30, 2012, 12:46:11 PM
I'm really hoping for 2 legs in the Philippines after seeing that tweet. Manila to Banaue or Manila to Albay would be lovely. Although I would really wish they would start outside Manila for the Philippines. Cebu would be a great start with Cebu-Bohol route.
And this could be another west coast starting line.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Mug Costanza on October 30, 2012, 12:58:41 PM
I'll point out the obvious and say that November 6 is Election Day in the US, and given that we're voting for President this year, there's no chance they start until after that. I don't even think they would do the pre-race sequester until the election is over.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2012, 01:29:17 PM
I'll point out the obvious and say that November 6 is Election Day in the US, and given that we're voting for President this year, there's no chance they start until after that. I don't even think they would do the pre-race sequester until the election is over.

Irrelevant...anyone can pre-vote by absentee ballot.

And
Start (or finish) there would be lovely!

Has a start line ever been moved to a hurricane/disaster before? It looks as if the start is in NY it won't be happening for a long time

Who said anything about moving TO a disaster area?? The discussion was IF they could possibly be moving FROM an East Coast start.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2012, 02:31:47 PM
Sure...Belize!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on October 30, 2012, 02:37:29 PM
The main issue with a eastward moving Race right now is that the airports in New York, all of them, have flooded runways, and until that has drained, and the instrumentation has been checked and repaired, all flights (and aircraft) will be unavailable to and from NYC.

I haven't heard about any other east coast airports, but the center of Sandy crossed over Philadelphia, and close to Baltimore, and that's not far from both Dulles and Washington Reagan National; I haven't heard anything specific about Boston Logan, either.

The bottom line is that aircraft for most or all international flights are possible out of position for the current posted flight schedules (aircraft often fly several different routes and route legs in one trip for the crew.)

Getting to Europe without connecting through the airports in the area affected by Sandy, and especially if it is a west coast start headed eastward needing connecting flights, is going to be a challenge for the next few days.

If they're headed to South America first, then that may not be impacted.

I wouldn't be surprised if this affects the filming route if they're planning to start filming in the next week or so, the problem in NYC is unprecedented as salt water flooding is a far more serious problem than snow from a blizzard or winter storm.

My instincts are right:

http://news.yahoo.com/sandy-canceled-flights-no-airport-chaos-164142623.html (http://news.yahoo.com/sandy-canceled-flights-no-airport-chaos-164142623.html)

Quote
NEW YORK (AP) — Hurricane Sandy has left more than 16,000 flight cancellations in its wake.

Chaos at airports? Hardly.

Not long ago, a powerful storm pounding the Northeast would have brought havoc to some of the nation's busiest airports: families sleeping on the floor amidst mounds of luggage; passengers stuck for hours on planes hoping to take off; and dinners cobbled together from near-empty vending machines.

In the aftermath of Sandy, airports from Washington to Boston are deserted. There are hundreds of thousands of travelers stranded across the U.S. and around the world, but instead of camping out inside airport terminals they are staying with friends and family or in hotels.

After years of storm mismanagement and the bad public relations that followed, U.S. airlines have rewritten their severe weather playbooks. They've learned that it's best to cancel flights early and keep the public away from airports, even if that means they'll have a bigger backlog to deal with once conditions improve.

This allows the airlines to tell gate agents, baggage handlers and flight crews to stay home, too — keeping them fresh once they're needed again.

And by moving planes to airports outside of the storm's path, airlines can protect their equipment and thereby get flight schedules back to normal quickly after a storm passes and airports reopen.

These precautions make good business sense. They also help the airlines comply with new government regulations that impose steep fines for leaving passengers stuck on planes for three hours or more.

"The last few major storms created such gridlock, and such bad will with their best customers, they just had to shift their behavior," said Kate Hanni, who heads up the passenger advocacy group Flyers Rights and lobbied for the three-hour rule. "The flying public would rather have their flights pre-cancelled than be sleeping in Chicago on a cot."

Departure monitors at airports across the Northeast Monday and Tuesday reflected that new approach.

London: Canceled.

Seattle: Canceled.

Los Angeles: Canceled.

Hong Kong: Canceled.

Houston: Canceled.

And the number of cancellations is likely to rise.

"It will probably take until the weekend for things to return to normal," said Rob Maruster, the chief operating officer of JetBlue Airways, which is based in New York.

Even "normal" won't be perfect. Passengers are reporting multi-hour wait times at most airline call centers and they are likely to experience long lines once airports reopen.

JetBlue is keenly aware of what is at stake when a big storm hits. On Valentine's Day weekend 2007, a massive snowstorm hammered the East Coast. JetBlue was late to cancel flights. Passengers were stranded on planes for hours. When the storm finally cleared, other airlines resumed flights but JetBlue's operations were still in shambles.

Other airlines took note. Severe weather manuals were updated. Reservation systems were programmed to automatically rebook passengers when flights are canceled. And travelers now receive notifications by email, phone or text message.

"In past years, airlines would have soldiered on, trying to get their planes in the air no matter what," said George Hobica, founder of AirfareWatchdog.com. But they've learned that "there's no value in news cameras showing footage of people sleeping on cots in airports."

Enter Sandy.

Airlines spent days before the storm hit running though color-coded checklists to shut down their Northeast operations. Computers were covered in plastic tarps. Hotel rooms near airports were booked for gate agents and ramp workers. Planes, pilots and flight attendants were moved to other airports.

And — don't worry — shelter was found for animals traveling as cargo.

"Anything that could move by the wind, we've locked down," said Henry Kuykendall, who oversees operations for Delta Air Lines at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport.

The airlines' in-house meteorologists started tracking this storm more than a week ago as it approached the Caribbean. By Thursday night, it was pretty clear that widespread cancelations would happen in Washington, Philadelphia, New York and Boston.

The next day, airlines started to waive fees for passengers who wanted to move to earlier or later flights. American Airlines, for instance, let travelers heading to any of 22 airports — from Greensboro, N.C. in the south to Buffalo, N.Y. in the north — change plans. Then teams started to cancel flights heading into or out of airports stretching from Washington to Boston.

That sounds easier than it is. Every plane in its fleet is in near constant motion. In one day, a single plane might fly from Atlanta to New York to Detroit — and then back to Atlanta and then once more to New York.

If the airline doesn't want that plane to spend the night in New York, it has ripple effects throughout the system. For instance, that plane might have been scheduled the next day to fly passengers to Seattle and then on to San Francisco.

When Sandy hit, almost no planes were left in the Northeast.

JetBlue scattered the majority of its planes to 20 different airports across the country, even though 80 percent of its flights start or end in New York or Boston.

American Airlines moved 80 planes that were supposed to spend Sunday night in the Northeast to other airports.

One Boeing 737 didn't make it out of Boston in time because of a mechanical issue. Left with no other solution, American filled the plane with fuel to make it as heavy as possible, faced it toward the wind, locked the wheels and moved it away from anything else.

"We'll keep our fingers crossed," said Jon Snook, the airline's vice president of operations planning and performance.

Delta got all of its planes out of New York. The last plane took off at 1:01 a.m. Monday — a Boeing 757 with 157 people on board heading to Georgetown, Guyana. US Airways held all but one of its Transatlantic planes bound for Philadelphia at European airports. And United Airlines removed all but about a dozen planes from its Washington Dulles and Newark, N.J., hubs.

Once the clouds clear, flights won't start up immediately.

JetBlue's Maruster equated starting up the airline again to be like putting together a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle. It's not about staffing levels, but an overall game plan that makes sense. "At a certain point, putting more hands on the table doesn't help get it solved faster," he said.

The airlines need to ask a lot of questions before bringing in planes.

First, are the runways open? New York's JFK and LaGuardia airports both had water flow onto the runways.

Next, is there public transit to get workers to the airport? If not, does the airline have enough staff staying at nearby hotels that can be bused in?

Finally, the airline has to check on all the other people needed to run an airport: the Transportation Security Administration, customs officials, caters, fuel trucks and even the people who push wheelchairs through the terminal.

"Before we can even move an airplane here, we need to make sure those resources are here," said Delta's Kuykendall. "There's a lot of moving pieces that people don't see. It's a dance to get it all to work."
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: addie on October 30, 2012, 02:49:05 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but LAX has direct flights to London right?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on October 30, 2012, 02:53:45 PM
That depends on where the Race route is laid out to, and airlines often use aircraft on several routes for one "trip." In other words, airlines may not have the aircraft normally used in place at LAX for such flights. And then, there'll be all of the rescheduled travelers using alternate routes outside of the affected corridor in the northeastern and mid-Atlantic states to get where they're going.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Air on October 30, 2012, 06:47:28 PM
Why is Tasmania bad, Airlinesguy?

Tasmania is S-O B-O-R-I-N-G. The only reason you would go there is a) because you're a Hawthorn supporter and need to go to Launceston to see Hawthorn win another AFL game  :lol: or b) because you want to go hiking on Cradle Mountain. There is literally no other reason.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but LAX has direct flights to London right?

LAX has direct flights to London, Paris, Frankfurt and some other European destinations too. :tup: However the majority of them are flights operated by American Airlines or United Airlines, which would probably have aircraft somewhere else due to hurricane disruptions, like theschnauzers said. It is possible, however, that teams could fly on these airlines to get to major European hubs:

LHR:

Air New Zealand (Not sure if you can book flights from LAX to LHR on ANZ because of freedom restrictions, however this flight is definitely operating because ANZ does not fly to the Eastern Seaboard)

American Airlines (Flight running perfectly & LHR is a great connection point)

British Airways (Look at American Airlines)

United Airlines (One cancellation, but don't think that has had to do with the hurricane)

Virgin Atlantic (Look at American Airlines)

CDG:

Air France (Most likely, they are still operating flights between LAX and CDG)

Air Tahiti Nui (Definitely, they don't fly to the Eastern Seaboard at all)

FRA:

Lufthansa (FRA is how to get into a small airport in Europe and the flight isnt cancelled either)
Other:

Aeroflot-SVO (Reasonable connection point, good flights to all over Europe, however this flight seems to be operating in a very limited manner)

Air Berlin-TXL & Dusseldorf (IDK what has happened to this flight)

Alitalia-FCO (Seasonal Flight only, currently not scheduled)

El Al-TLV (Not sure if WRP would let them connect here, but flight has not been cancelled recently)

Emirates-DXB (Great connecting point, even if it's a bit far away, but no cancellations yet)

Iberia-MAD (Not-so-great connecting point, but the flight seams to be fine)

KLM-AMS (Great connecting point, flight seems to be fine too)

Lufthansa-MUC (MUC has great connections and the flight's not cancelled)

Swiss International Air Lines-ZRH (reasonable connections, flight isnt cancelled)

Transaero-DME (Reasonable connection point, but flight seems to have disappeared)

Turkish Airlines-IST (Great connections thanks to Turkish's expansion, flight ok)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: SoYoung on October 31, 2012, 09:19:11 AM
Am I the only person that thinks South Asia will not be visited?

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27942.0;attach=218154;image)

After Africa was missed completely I think we will have 2 legs in one country there, possibly a new country like Uganda.


Yeah, I am sure that Uganda is at the top of Bertram's list. With the outbreak last week of Marburg Haemorrhagic  Fevor.....gives new meaning to "surviving" the leg.


 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well Philippines is not part of South asia. Its on SouthEastAsia  :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jobby on October 31, 2012, 02:22:29 PM
I have seen 2 comments about Philippines not in South Asia but Southeast Asia. Can anyone point to me a country that is in South Asia but not Southeast Asia then? :lol:

Food for thought.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Dom on October 31, 2012, 05:53:26 PM
I'd consider India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and maybe Pakistan as South Asian countries.

In fact, this is a pretty good system of grouping countries based on geographical and cultural differences: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on October 31, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
I have seen 2 comments about Philippines not in South Asia but Southeast Asia. Can anyone point to me a country that is in South Asia but not Southeast Asia then? :lol:

Food for thought.

Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, India (?).
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on October 31, 2012, 07:51:30 PM
PAKISTAN PLEASE  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on October 31, 2012, 09:14:22 PM
PAKISTAN PLEASE  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:

Sure, with a side trip to Afghanistan and flying in from Bhutan.  :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Air on November 01, 2012, 04:55:00 AM
According to this article: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/sandys-impact-on-airline-financials-too-early-to-tell-378389/

All NYC airports should be up and running to full capacity in the next 2 days. Since these were the hardest hit airports, the others should open sooner. I don't think Hurricane Sandy will have any impact  on TAR22.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: apskip on November 01, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
Let's remember that wishlists on where AR22 will go should not be placed on this thread.

What is appropriate for speculation is when AR22 will start. Historic fall-started Amazing Races typically start late November or the extreme beginning of December. We need to be vigilant for the entire month of November, as World Race Productions could be ready to go sooner than the historic date range.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 01, 2012, 04:05:01 PM
PAKISTAN PLEASE  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:

Sure, with a side trip to Afghanistan and flying in from Bhutan.  :lol3:
Both have good flight connections to Iran and Syria. ;-)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: paldog123456 on November 01, 2012, 05:50:29 PM
PAKISTAN PLEASE  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:

Sure, with a side trip to Afghanistan and flying in from Bhutan.  :lol3:
Both have good flight connections to Iran and Syria. ;-)

As interesting as it would be to see Pakistan, I think there is no way they will go there. It is just too dangerous for TAR. (Especially considering the shooting of the 15 year old girl last week that is making global headlines...)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on November 01, 2012, 07:38:22 PM
PAKISTAN PLEASE  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:

Sure, with a side trip to Afghanistan and flying in from Bhutan.  :lol3:
Both have good flight connections to Iran and Syria. ;-)

As interesting as it would be to see Pakistan, I think there is no way they will go there. It is just too dangerous for TAR. (Especially considering the shooting of the 15 year old girl last week that is making global headlines...)

I know.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 01, 2012, 08:28:39 PM

What is appropriate for speculation is when AR22 will start. Historic fall-started Amazing Races typically start late November or the extreme beginning of December. We need to be vigilant for the entire month of November, as World Race Productions could be ready to go sooner than the historic date range.


Especially as they have said early November here on the casting site:

Quote
online application (from this site), home video and photos are all due on April 25th at 12pm (noon) PDT.

These will be considered for the 2012-2013 casting season. Calls will most likely go out in June and July, 2012 

The filming dates for the season we are casting is early November, 2012.

Now, it is totally possible that Sandy may have forced a few changes ...or not. :duno:
 
But I would take them at face value...and be ready from now on. :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ovalorange on November 02, 2012, 01:16:17 AM
Please excuse me if I've missed it, but has anyone speculated what teams we might see this season? I'm interested in what types of teams y'all think might be cast this season! :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Air on November 02, 2012, 01:30:45 AM
Please excuse me if I've missed it, but has anyone speculated what teams we might see this season? I'm interested in what types of teams y'all think might be cast this season! :tup:

I don't think anyone has speculated that sort of thing yet.  :)

I reckon we will have:

3 FF
3 MM
5 MF

An Afro-American Couple (Young)
Father/Son
Sister/Brother
Lesbian/Not lesbian (ie chippendales)
A Lumelia esque team
Two Old Females
Older dating couple
M/F Friends
Frat Boys
Twins (MF)
MM work colleagues.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Aussie on November 02, 2012, 01:38:04 AM
PAKISTAN PLEASE  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts: :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:  :hearts:

Sure, with a side trip to Afghanistan and flying in from Bhutan.  :lol3:
Both have good flight connections to Iran and Syria. ;-)

As interesting as it would be to see Pakistan, I think there is no way they will go there. It is just too dangerous for TAR. (Especially considering the shooting of the 15 year old girl last week that is making global headlines...)

NO. WAY.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Theo on November 02, 2012, 02:24:46 AM
I think we'll have many parent/child teams. I think TAR wants to have parent/child to win the race. 3-4 parent/child teams I guess.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on November 02, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
good question oval!

based on the team gender ratios since TAR12, it seems as though our line up will be :

- 3 F/F
- 3 M/M
- 5 M/F


after a lack of F/F domination in the past three seasons (the twinnies could change that), we will probably get one more F/F team, there's no way we will get 4 unless casting is feeling generous :lol: so here they are :

- mother/daughter
- friends connected by an occupation
- friends connected by an occupation


after the abundance of M/M teams in the past three seasons making it far into the race, i'm sure we will get cut down to 3, or they'll keep it 4, but i doubt it, so here they are :

- father/son
- friends connected by an occupation
- friends connected by an occupation


that leaves us with 5 M/F teams! here they are :

- father/daughter
- a couple
- a couple
- a couple
- a couple


we will get more 'ordinary' teams this season
and out of all of these teams, two of them will be African-American
that's the end of my cast predicting!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on November 02, 2012, 02:36:51 AM
that leaves us with 5 M/F teams! here they are :

- father/daughter
- a couple
- a couple
- a couple
- a couple


we will get more 'ordinary' teams this season
and out of all of these teams, two of them will be African-American
that's the end of my cast predicting!

or add on that list : mother/son  as well, margie/luke was the only one?!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: addie on November 02, 2012, 02:41:12 AM
Toni/Dallas Susan/Patrick
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: choroneko on November 02, 2012, 12:37:38 PM
Since season 18, they always had 2 FF teams. I hope to have 3 FF teams this coming season but I'm speculating we'll only have 2 FF teams again.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Ikurriña on November 02, 2012, 02:14:36 PM
We had 3 FF teams in S20
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2012, 12:24:56 AM
This is not a wish list thread. :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Aussie on November 03, 2012, 05:21:13 AM
usa >> mexico
mexico
mexico >> colombia
colombia >> venezuela >> peru
peru >> laos
laos >> bhutan
bhutan >> yemen
yemen >> saudi arabia >> syria
syria >> kosovo
kosovo >> albania >> libya
libya
libya >> usa
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on November 03, 2012, 05:35:21 AM
i predict the race starts tomorrow. keep your eyes peeled!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on November 03, 2012, 06:24:36 AM
usa >> mexico
mexico
mexico >> colombia
colombia >> venezuela >> peru
peru >> laos
laos >> bhutan
bhutan >> yemen
yemen >> saudi arabia >> syria
syria >> kosovo
kosovo >> albania >> libya


libya
libya >> usa


 :lol3:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on November 03, 2012, 03:40:42 PM

Ok guys..

Does Phil's tweet could possibly be a hint?  :duno:  who knows..

Just watch out for New Zealand coming in our way!  :hoot:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on November 03, 2012, 04:55:34 PM
How about all stars previous teams return for a chance to win the race again  :duno:  :duno:  :duno: ???
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on November 03, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
Phul was retweeting a PSA that Air New Zealand will be using on its flights concerning passenger safety briefings, that all airlines do before takeoff. Peter Jackson and the cast of The Hobbit donated their time to help make the PSA.
(I saw this on an entertainment industry blog a few days ago when it was released.)
I don't think it's a hint of anything; Phil has made promo spots for Air New Zealand in the past; and he flies on it regularly between New Zealand and California.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Dom on November 05, 2012, 01:59:32 PM
What do you guys make of this tweet?

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan I'm sorry I disappeared live #Tweeting #AmazingRace last night, I'm traveling and lost connection.

WHERE ARE YOU PHIL?!?!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on November 05, 2012, 04:51:06 PM
The Amazing Race checked in at Большой театр / Bolshoi Theatre
Москва, Россия
Racing in Moscow, Russia on 11/4/12!
2 days ago 

does this mean anything  :duno:  :duno:  :duno:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
it is the Foursquare update for next show with a wrong date, lol.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Kacper on November 06, 2012, 02:57:43 PM
What do you guys make of this tweet?

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan I'm sorry I disappeared live #Tweeting #AmazingRace last night, I'm traveling and lost connection.

WHERE ARE YOU PHIL?!?!

That's what I am wondering. Where is he traveling?  :duno:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: supah on November 06, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
What do you guys make of this tweet?

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan I'm sorry I disappeared live #Tweeting #AmazingRace last night, I'm traveling and lost connection.

WHERE ARE YOU PHIL?!?!

That's what I am wondering. Where is he traveling?  :duno:

To infinity, and beyond!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2012, 08:49:27 PM
Wasn't us. ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2012, 10:18:26 PM
Nope. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: topaz on November 07, 2012, 08:11:00 PM
finally the US election is over, and surely next week it'll start the race for TAR 22.  But if they could race to Japan, again for this new season and they'll encounter this clue instruction: Make your way to Obama. and that will be the best and the most memorable instructions on TAR just like what on TAR Australia 2 did when some of the remaining Aussie teams read an instruction that they should drove their way to Australia but it actually meant that they should drove it in a crocodile farm just a distant away from Havana, Cuba. :lol3:

BTW, there really is a Japanese city that is name to Barack Obama but it actually meant "little beach" in Japanese and here's the info about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama,_Fukui
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on November 07, 2012, 08:38:45 PM
The airline schedules for the northeast are all messed up again due to a winter storm that struck the same area that were hit by Sandy last week. The airlines cancelled flights and moved their aircraft out of the storm area.
Just mentioning it because it may or may not affect when and where filming starts.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: redskevin88 on November 08, 2012, 05:16:59 AM
The airline schedules for the northeast are all messed up again due to a winter storm that struck the same area that were hit by Sandy last week. The airlines cancelled flights and moved their aircraft out of the storm area.
Just mentioning it because it may or may not affect when and where filming starts.

Doesn't the race usually start on the West Coast in LA?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 08, 2012, 07:42:08 AM
Doesn't the race usually start on the West Coast in LA?

Yeah, usually. It always start at LA and sometimes LA area such as Pasadena or Long Beach. World Race Productions headquarters is in El Segundo.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: apskip on November 08, 2012, 07:46:46 AM
redskevin,

You are right, it usually does, but there is no law of Amazing Races stating that an LAX start is mandated. It is done for convenience. That means that a race could start from any major city in the East: New York, Boston, Philadelphia long overdue, Washington long overdue, Charlotte overdue, Atlanta long overdue, Orlando long overdue or Miami.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: amazing race fan on November 09, 2012, 07:31:06 AM
I think tomorrow will be the start of TAR 22. I am going to guess that we get a start in the South, but it might be LA again.

I just think that South America will be visited first, so it would make sense to start in the south. Who knows though what the first destination is and where it will start, I just think that we will see the start tomorrow.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: topaz on November 09, 2012, 09:09:37 PM
I'm sick about visiting to South America as the 1st continent to race for TAR 22 because of the infamous TARLA. (:;)

I want either Africa or Australia/South Pacific as the 1st continent to race it. :gaah:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Alenaveda on November 09, 2012, 09:17:25 PM
I'm sick about visiting to South America as the 1st continent to race for TAR 22 because of the infamous TARLA. (:;)

I want either Africa or Australia/South Pacific as the 1st continent to race it. :gaah:

What is infamous about TARLA?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 09, 2012, 11:59:29 PM
I think tomorrow will be the start of TAR 22. I am going to guess that we get a start in the South, but it might be LA again.

I just think that South America will be visited first, so it would make sense to start in the south. Who knows though what the first destination is and where it will start, I just think that we will see the start tomorrow.

If the start of TAR22 won't do for tomorrow, it will be for another week.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: amazingracer921 on November 10, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
Sequester may have started already.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 10, 2012, 01:43:09 AM
Sequester may have started already.

Why? Is it too early to start for sequester? I guess the LA area would start the race. I'm tired of South America starts since TAR2 and has been done eight times for its 11 year run.

Oceania leg please.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on November 10, 2012, 11:16:48 AM
Sequester may have started already.

Why? Is it too early to start for sequester? I guess the LA area would start the race. I'm tired of South America starts since TAR2 and has been done eight times for its 11 year run.

Oceania leg please.

Lol this is how I feel about Asia starts.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2012, 11:20:57 AM
I think tomorrow will be the start of TAR 22.

Not today. :kuss:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on November 10, 2012, 12:42:07 PM
Just a reminder that TPTB do like starting filming on holiday weekends in the U.S., if not ending filming on a holiday weekend.

This weekend is considered a three-day holiday weekend in the U.S. since tomorrow is a legal holiday (Veterans' Day) that will be observed on Monday. Although many private employers do not give Veterans' Day as a paid or unpaid holiday (i.e., regular workday,) the federal government, most states and local governments d observe the holiday, as well as federally chartered banks, and the postal service (no banking or mail on Monday.)

Of course areas recovering from both the recent Superstorm and the more recent winter storm will have most government and retail services open due to the emergency those storms have created.

So, take that information for what it is worth.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jobby on November 11, 2012, 12:13:34 AM
Oh my god please don't start in Asia again. Although it seems like it. -_-
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on November 11, 2012, 08:15:14 AM
Oh my god please don't start in Asia again. Although it seems like it. -_-

I think that Seoul could be a great start-city, and then off to Japan!!!!
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jimmer on November 11, 2012, 09:07:25 AM
Oh my god please don't start in Asia again. Although it seems like it. -_-

I think that Seoul could be a great start-city, and then off to Japan!!!!

I am 99% sure Japan will not be visited since it has been visited twice in the last four seasons. :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on November 11, 2012, 03:48:13 PM
I would be really surprised if the race doesn't start in South America. I'm hoping for Brazil and the Patagonia Region  :hearts:.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jimmer on November 11, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
I highly doubt they visit South America since we spent 3 legs there in Season 20.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Alenaveda on November 11, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
I would be really surprised if the race doesn't start in South America. I'm hoping for Brazil and the Patagonia Region  :hearts:.

I highly doubt they visit South America since we spent 3 legs there in Season 20.

In the same line,  they shouldn't visit Asia again because they had 5 legs on this season and in Season 19 :( .
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jimmer on November 11, 2012, 04:38:29 PM
Yeah, but based on past trends, TAR only visits South America on average about once every 3 to 4 years.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: maxen on November 11, 2012, 04:47:24 PM
I would be really surprised if the race doesn't start in South America. I'm hoping for Brazil and the Patagonia Region  :hearts:.

Brazil and patagonia would be repetitive. Perú & Ecuador would be really nice. But i don't think SA will be visited this year.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on November 11, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
Yeah, but based on past trends, TAR only visits South America on average about once every 3 to 4 years.

Uhh... these are the seasons the race has viisited South America.
2,5,7,9,11,13,16,18,20

The pattern is usually every other season (or sometimes 2 seasons apart) visits South America
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on November 11, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
I would be really surprised if the race doesn't start in South America. I'm hoping for Brazil and the Patagonia Region  :hearts:.

Brazil and patagonia would be repetitive. Perú & Ecuador would be really nice. But i don't think SA will be visited this year.

Brazil was visited for only 1 leg in Season 18 and Patagonia hasn't been visited since Season 16. Peru and Ecuador are in the Andes, and didn't the race go there in Season 20. Wouldn't going back be repetitive.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: maxen on November 11, 2012, 05:34:54 PM
I would be really surprised if the race doesn't start in South America. I'm hoping for Brazil and the Patagonia Region  :hearts:.

Brazil and patagonia would be repetitive. Perú & Ecuador would be really nice. But i don't think SA will be visited this year.

Brazil was visited for only 1 leg in Season 18 and Patagonia hasn't been visited since Season 16. Peru and Ecuador are in the Andes, and didn't the race go there in Season 20. Wouldn't going back be repetitive.

Last year they went to Argentina and that area is surrounded by the Andes, it's not in the Andes. On the other hand Perú and Ecuador have A LOT more to offer than just the Andes.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Theo on November 11, 2012, 06:22:34 PM
Can it get started already? I am getting impatient :gaah:

Anyway, Phil hasn't tweeted for a week. Could it be a hint? ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 11, 2012, 07:10:02 PM
Phil is tweeting now. ;)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 11, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
In the same line,  they shouldn't visit Asia again because they had 5 legs on this season and in Season 19 :( .

And in TAR:UB, Asia had also spent 5 legs too.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 11, 2012, 08:26:07 PM
I would be really surprised if the race doesn't start in South America. I'm hoping for Brazil and the Patagonia Region  :hearts:.

Brazil and patagonia would be repetitive. Perú & Ecuador would be really nice. But i don't think SA will be visited this year.

All I'm hoping for South America is that they kill the Chile & Argentina pairing. Whenever Chile is a destination, I always sigh and say "Argentina again, right?" :(
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Declive on November 11, 2012, 08:26:50 PM
They could start to use Colombia and Bolivia more.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on November 11, 2012, 08:42:01 PM
Columbia and Venezuela aren't used because of the potential threats to Americans, just like Mexico these past few years.

One country that may now be on the permitted list is Myanmar now that President Obama and Secretary Clinton are due there for an official visit in about 10 days. 
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 11, 2012, 08:55:09 PM

One country that may now be on the permitted list is Myanmar now that President Obama and Secretary Clinton are due there for an official visit in about 10 days. 

Just had a big eathquake there:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/world/asia/deadly-myanmar-quake-destroys-bridge-and-mine.html?_r=0
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Alenaveda on November 11, 2012, 09:03:08 PM
I would be really surprised if the race doesn't start in South America. I'm hoping for Brazil and the Patagonia Region  :hearts:.

Brazil and patagonia would be repetitive. Perú & Ecuador would be really nice. But i don't think SA will be visited this year.

All I'm hoping for South America is that they kill the Chile & Argentina pairing. Whenever Chile is a destination, I always sigh and say "Argentina again, right?" :(

They did it in TAR5 and TAR20.  BTW, Uruguay is a good option, with only one previous visit (TAR5).
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on November 11, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
I want at least 2 of the fallowing: Peru, Chile, Brazil
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on November 12, 2012, 09:23:39 AM
I want at least 2 of the fallowing: Peru, Chile, Brazil

Some cool spots they have not visited is The Galápago Islands, Machu Picchu, Lake Titicaca, Easter Island and The Amazon. If they go to Venezuela, it could be so cool if they went to Canaima National Park.  :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Amazingracer on November 12, 2012, 10:19:58 AM
One place I feel it's hard for them to not visit, purely for its convenience, is Qatar(Doha). It could easily serve as a transition point between Asia and Europe or even Africa. It would be a new country as well.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: TARFansurvivor on November 12, 2012, 12:05:31 PM
One place I feel it's hard for them to not visit, purely for its convenience, is Qatar(Doha). It could easily serve as a transition point between Asia and Europe or even Africa. It would be a new country as well.

Could be so great, since there where no new countries in TAR 21.
So i hope there is a lot of new countries like TAR 19 there had 4.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Katarzyna on November 12, 2012, 12:57:34 PM
I'm still betting on a Europe first leg. It's been a while since they started there (Season 17). If this coming season is anything special, I hope North America or a Pacific Island would be the first region to be featured. In order for them to get their ratings back, TAR should include a rarely seen region in the world. Perhaps they could feature Greenland, the Himalayas (Northern India or Nepal), the exotic Central Asia or Pacific Islands. These routes they're featuring recently are too generic.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ianthebalance on November 12, 2012, 01:19:18 PM
I'm still betting on a Europe first leg. It's been a while since they started there (Season 17). If this coming season is anything special, I hope North America or a Pacific Island would be the first region to be featured. In order for them to get their ratings back, TAR should include a rarely seen region in the world. Perhaps they could feature Greenland, the Himalayas (Northern India or Nepal), the exotic Central Asia or Pacific Islands. These routes they're featuring recently are too generic.

I also agree it has been a while since the race had a europe start, but I think they are saving that for Season 23, since we cant have three summer starts in asia in a row. I'm hoping Season 23 starts in SCANDANAVIA!!! :luvya:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: NiceGuy on November 12, 2012, 02:09:53 PM
I wonder what the special casting is going to be for TAR22.  I noticed that recently the even numbered seasons have all had either crossover teams or returning teams or something like that.  TAR16 had Jeff & Jordan.  TAR18 was Unfinished Buisness. TAR20 had Brendon & Rachel.  So I'm excited to find out what we're going to have like that in TAR22  :hoot:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Kacper on November 12, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
Can it start already?  :gaah: :gaah:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: amazingracer921 on November 12, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
I wonder what the special casting is going to be for TAR22.  I noticed that recently the even numbered seasons have all had either crossover teams or returning teams or something like that.  TAR16 had Jeff & Jordan.  TAR18 was Unfinished Buisness. TAR20 had Brendon & Rachel.  So I'm excited to find out what we're going to have like that in TAR22  :hoot:

Shane and Danielle
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: apskip on November 12, 2012, 06:50:05 PM
Can it start already?  :gaah: :gaah:
Absolutely. AR22 could already be underway with us not picking it up. It is possible to devise a route that does this, but World Race Productions usually likes a minor amount of during-the-race publicity. If it hasn't started already, there is now a 3 week window to do so.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Jimmer on November 12, 2012, 07:58:26 PM
I wonder what the special casting is going to be for TAR22.  I noticed that recently the even numbered seasons have all had either crossover teams or returning teams or something like that.  TAR16 had Jeff & Jordan.  TAR18 was Unfinished Buisness. TAR20 had Brendon & Rachel.  So I'm excited to find out what we're going to have like that in TAR22  :hoot:

Not to mention Ethan and Jenna from Survivor on Season 19.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 12, 2012, 09:03:44 PM
I wonder what the special casting is going to be for TAR22.  I noticed that recently the even numbered seasons have all had either crossover teams or returning teams or something like that.  TAR16 had Jeff & Jordan.  TAR18 was Unfinished Buisness. TAR20 had Brendon & Rachel.  So I'm excited to find out what we're going to have like that in TAR22  :hoot:

Not to mention Ethan and Jenna from Survivor on Season 19.

Ryan (season 21) was also a former reality show competitor on the Martha Stewart Apprentice, but don't forget about the way past seasons like Rob & Amber from season 7 and all-stars.  ;) They were incredible racers, but had bad attitudes. Alison from Big Brother 4 was forgettable. She participated with her ex-BF, Donny in season 5. I'm hoping for a CBS soap opera or A&E reality appearance couple this season.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 12, 2012, 09:53:20 PM
Can it start already?  :gaah: :gaah:
Absolutely. AR22 could already be underway with us not picking it up.

No it couldn't.  :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Alenaveda on November 13, 2012, 11:26:53 AM
I wonder what the special casting is going to be for TAR22.  I noticed that recently the even numbered seasons have all had either crossover teams or returning teams or something like that.  TAR16 had Jeff & Jordan.  TAR18 was Unfinished Buisness. TAR20 had Brendon & Rachel.  So I'm excited to find out what we're going to have like that in TAR22  :hoot:

 :welcome: to RFF NiceGuy
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 13, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Well if all the threads are unlocked I think were getting a start soon :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on November 13, 2012, 03:25:16 PM

here  :pray:  if Chateau or other LA detectives could be on field anytime soon...  :colors


Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Oddarane on November 13, 2012, 04:15:51 PM
Fingers crossed for a Scandinavian leg
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Kacper on November 13, 2012, 04:19:51 PM
:hearts:  And....we are LIVE!!  :hearts: 
 
Hoping for the adventure of a lifetime for our TAR 22 cast!!

Look at what peach posted in the Live Sightings page.
Does that mean the race started today?  :o   :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: hollistersurferboy22 on November 13, 2012, 04:31:48 PM
No idea. But they keep adding posts in the spoiler thread that only say "Saved" and I keep getting excited for nothing.

Can't find anything on twitter
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Joeyengen on November 13, 2012, 04:35:06 PM
@PhilKeoghan thanks Phil!! I was in South Korea when AR came! pic.twitter.com/RNhe6EKL  :duno:  :duno:  :duno:  :duno:

November 11 this was tweeted
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Kacper on November 13, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
Nah. I bet she is just saying how she was in South Korea when TAR visited back in season 17.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 13, 2012, 04:41:37 PM
LAX has two flights to Melbourne tonight, though its probably "Its going to Aus/NZ" that happened in 20/21 :lol:

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ETA: Though in recent seasons(TAR20/21) they usually bunch all the teams on a flight to somewhere and have Phil fly direct. Ie in TAR20 Phil flew direct(I think) and the rest connected in Miami and in TAR21 they flew the teams to Taipei and Phil flew direct to film the stand ups & task descriptions.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 04:55:17 PM
:hearts:  And....we are LIVE!!  :hearts: 
 
Hoping for the adventure of a lifetime for our TAR 22 cast!!

Look at what peach posted in the Live Sightings page.
Does that mean the race started today?  :o   :)

ummm...YES OF COURSE!! :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Macaroons on November 13, 2012, 05:02:38 PM
New season, new avatar (thanks georgiapeach  :luvya:)

Looking forward to it
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 05:04:49 PM
 :<3
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on November 13, 2012, 05:06:11 PM

is it only me or someone elses experience the same thing??

even facebook has blockade the search facility...  :lol:


(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/RFF%20Stuff/fb-blockade.jpg)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
Been happening for days....
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: gigglypiggies on November 13, 2012, 05:09:24 PM
How do we know the race has started?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 13, 2012, 05:10:09 PM
I haven't been able to do any meaningful searches on Facebook for the last 10 days or so.   :gaah:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Declive on November 13, 2012, 05:10:31 PM
How do we know the race has started?

WE don't know nothing.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on November 13, 2012, 05:14:01 PM

just keep your eyes peeled for #LAX , #LosAngeles , filmcrews, #BigBrother , #Survivor ... lol...  ;D


Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on November 13, 2012, 05:15:21 PM
How do we know the race has started?

Oh, Thee of little faith.....
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
How do we know the race has started?

I think I just got doubted. :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: redwings8831 on November 13, 2012, 05:22:13 PM
How do we know the race has started?

I think I just got doubted. :lol:

You did. Happens every season.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Snooky on November 13, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
Peach is the member of mystery.
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 05:32:23 PM
ooooooh... :flirt:
 
Y'all need to find me some tweets.  :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: redwings8831 on November 13, 2012, 05:33:50 PM
ooooooh... :flirt:
 
Y'all need to find me some tweets.  :tup:

Have been looking. Any hints? East coast, west coast?
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: gigglypiggies on November 13, 2012, 05:35:07 PM
I didn't doubt you peach, I am just the new guy that feels like I'm missing something everyone else picked up on. Lol
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 06:04:33 PM
Don't worry sweetie, I'm used to it!! :lol:



Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 06:05:44 PM
My... they are slowpokes.


 :popcorn:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: theschnauzers on November 13, 2012, 06:07:36 PM
I've tried Twitter, Facebook, Google, and nada so far.

I'm going AFK for a bit, and just watch; something will show up in the meantime. :)
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on November 13, 2012, 06:12:12 PM
I've tried Twitter, Facebook, Google, and nada so far.

I'm going AFK for a bit, and just watch; something will show up in the meantime. :)

Something will show up when they're at the check-in counter or waiting at the departure gate tonight..   :tup:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: Reilly Queens on November 13, 2012, 06:19:51 PM
My... they are slowpokes.


 :popcorn:

Can we get a hint your highness :lol: :hugs:
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: NiceGuy on November 13, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
I wonder what the special casting is going to be for TAR22.  I noticed that recently the even numbered seasons have all had either crossover teams or returning teams or something like that.  TAR16 had Jeff & Jordan.  TAR18 was Unfinished Buisness. TAR20 had Brendon & Rachel.  So I'm excited to find out what we're going to have like that in TAR22  :hoot:

 :welcome: to RFF NiceGuy



Thanks!!!   :waves:  So excited to find out what teams we have this season!!!! 


Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: gigglypiggies on November 13, 2012, 06:36:42 PM

just keep your eyes peeled for #LAX , #LosAngeles , filmcrews, #BigBrother , #Survivor ... lol...  ;D

Well, so far, all that comes up on twitter when I search #bigbrother are lots of preteen girls hatin on their older siblings, and "man arrested for uploading picture of burning poppy"

...I guess I'll check back later. Lol
Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: ZouLy on November 13, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
My... they are slowpokes.


 :popcorn:

Can we get a hint your highness :lol: :hugs:

She already revealed the starting line location :lol:

Title: Re: pre-TAR 22 Speculation
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2012, 08:08:20 PM
And...now this thread is kaput!