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Archive => RFF Archived Boards => Amazing Race 21 Spoilers Archive => Topic started by: Cocoa on May 27, 2012, 03:19:04 AM

Title: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Cocoa on May 27, 2012, 03:19:04 AM
Like last season, I think we should also have a BMS thread for TAR 21. :hearts:

And yay China <333 This could be a trainwreck leg! <33333
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 27, 2012, 03:28:06 AM
Like last season, I think we should also have a BMS thread for TAR 21. :hearts:

And yay China <333 This could be a trainwreck leg! <33333

I agree. Throwing them into China on the first leg is just plain mean. I expect a few meltdowns and horribly lost teams.  :yess:

Should be fun to watch.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: redwings8831 on May 27, 2012, 03:30:31 AM
Like last season, I think we should also have a BMS thread for TAR 21. :hearts:

And yay China <333 This could be a trainwreck leg! <33333

I agree. Throwing them into China on the first leg is just plain mean. I expect a few meltdowns and horribly lost teams.  :yess:

Should be fun to watch.

A 24+ hour Chinese train ride would be a nice way to start Leg 2. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Cocoa on May 27, 2012, 03:36:59 AM
I hope after Shanghai, they go to a totally random Chinese remote city (by train) where NO ONE knows English to make teams cray-cray :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Polaroid on May 27, 2012, 03:41:23 AM
I hope after Shanghai, they go to a totally random Chinese remote city (by train) where NO ONE knows English to make teams cray-cray :lol:

I think I might go insane if we have teams getting mad at locals for not speaking English... No Jamie & Cara taxi anger please. :res:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Air on May 27, 2012, 03:43:14 AM
I hope after Shanghai, they go to a totally random Chinese remote city (by train) where NO ONE knows English to make teams cray-cray :lol:

I think I might go insane if we have teams getting mad at locals for not speaking English... No Jamie & Cara taxi anger please. :res:

Taxi anger is FUN! (For the viewers, not the taxis)  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: addie on May 27, 2012, 06:06:52 AM
I hope after Shanghai, they go to a totally random Chinese remote city (by train) where NO ONE knows English to make teams cray-cray :lol:
This, this. And loads of taxi anger! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: georgiapeach on May 27, 2012, 09:41:08 AM
I think Shanghai is not the first destination. Even if it is probably a second leg in a city which has a connecting flight to Laos.

What is this? ???

Shanghai IS the first destination as stated in spoilers.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Charlie90 on May 27, 2012, 11:32:53 AM
China first huh? Reminds me of Season 10. Hopefully this season has a great leg route like that one.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Mandoli on May 27, 2012, 12:47:11 PM
I'm going to bitch about China being the first leg. Isn't that country completely overused?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: apskip on May 27, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
I'm going to bitch about China being the first leg. Isn't that country completely overused?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. China (including Hong Kong and Macau) has been included in 45% of Amazing Races and if you adjust for Ar8 and AR7 not circumnavigating it rises to 50%. Just look at Asia and the fact that you have to get across eastern Asia either westbound or eastbound. It makes sense to me for China to to be used a lot and so it is.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: georgiapeach on May 27, 2012, 02:02:44 PM
I watched all of China Rush, and never got tired of it! China is a big place with lots of wonderful spots!
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Mug Costanza on May 27, 2012, 02:08:07 PM
I watched all of China Rush, and never got tired of it! China is a big place with lots of wonderful spots!

I don't mind it either, but Shanghai all over again? When there are many other cities? I am thinking since China is so big it might be a double leg in the country.

That's what I'm hoping for too, as long as Leg 2 goes somewhere brand new. If it stays in Shanghai or goes somewhere we've seen two or three times already, like Hong Kong, I'll be very disappointed.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: addie on May 27, 2012, 02:16:24 PM
3 legs in Shanghai :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Prophet on May 27, 2012, 02:18:11 PM
What's everybody so frustrated about? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: addie on May 27, 2012, 02:19:48 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: addie on May 27, 2012, 02:32:00 PM
This is the 3th time the race goes to Shanghai :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: hotriceguy on May 27, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
I want them in Guangzhou or some provincial capital but neither Shanghai nor Beijing!
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: apskip on May 27, 2012, 06:37:51 PM
I want them in Guangzhou or some provincial capital but neither Shanghai nor Beijing!
From Shanghai, Guangzhou is a long way (I am guessing off the top of my head about 500 miles),Beijing is about the same, Xian is over 1000 miles, Chongqing is probably about 1500 miles. AR21 may send them to one of those places, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Reilly Queens on May 27, 2012, 07:13:22 PM
I'm going to bitch about China being the first leg. Isn't that country completely overused?

You've mistaken China with India.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: hotriceguy on May 27, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
I want them in Guangzhou or some provincial capital but neither Shanghai nor Beijing!
From Shanghai, Guangzhou is a long way (I am guessing off the top of my head about 500 miles),Beijing is about the same, Xian is over 1000 miles, Chongqing is probably about 1500 miles. AR21 may send them to one of those places, but I doubt it.
Well, is it possibly that they are going to Suzhou, Hangzhou, or Nanjing?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Zack. on May 27, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
I think Shanghai's a large enough city to justify three visits (much like how I feel about Tokyo even though they always seem to have poor legs there). Given that smaller/less populated areas already have (Phuket) or could easily have (Mekong Delta, Singapore) three visits, I don't see the fuss.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Glamazon Racer on May 27, 2012, 10:22:53 PM
I'm going to bitch about China being the first leg. Isn't that country completely overused?

Completely agreed... :res:

If the rest of the route turns out to be a good one, then I won't mind the first leg being in China... :lol:

I just want new countries! Or at least some new cities! :lol:

But I will reserve my judgement until this leg airs! Even though TAR16 had two dull Shanghai legs, TAR6 had an awesome Shanghai leg, so maybe they can do it again. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Declive on May 27, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
Yeah , China for the first leg is boring...
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: apskip on May 27, 2012, 10:31:14 PM
I want them in Guangzhou or some provincial capital but neither Shanghai nor Beijing!
From Shanghai, Guangzhou is a long way (I am guessing off the top of my head about 500 miles),Beijing is about the same, Xian is over 1000 miles, Chongqing is probably about 1500 miles. AR21 may send them to one of those places, but I doubt it.
Well, is it possibly that they are going to Suzhou, Hangzhou, or Nanjing?
Sure, anything is possible. My guess (it's no more than that) is not Beijing (been there, done that), Xian (too far), or Chongqing (too far). It could be somewhere closer.Suzhou is quite close to Shanghai and is a beautiful place according to what I understand. I do not understand what the attractions of Nanjing and Hangzhou are because I haven't studied them, but they are quite close to Shanghai. They will fir the criteria.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: supah on May 28, 2012, 04:01:21 AM
SQUEAL i love the Starting Line transportation  :hearts:
(a hippie bus, pic in the locations thread thanks to Chateau  :tup: )
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: theschnauzers on May 28, 2012, 11:22:44 AM
Who would have expected a rappel at the start line, before the teams had a clue. (Yes, that was a pun; sue me!)
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Cocoa on May 28, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
There's no rural China!?!? Boo. :(
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: JordanJones123 on May 29, 2012, 05:28:51 AM
Looks like second leg is a unused leg from TAR19. Phil hinted at a quick visit back to Indonesia.

what do you mean unused? they just skipped it?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Jobby on May 29, 2012, 07:32:48 AM
Woah, Indonesia again within....... just two season??? :lol: No more Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand blah blah blah then. It should be an India/Bangladesh/Sri Lanka destination next OR Australia/New Zealand... but that's weird.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: ZBC Company on May 29, 2012, 07:35:48 AM
Woah, Indonesia again within....... just two season??? :lol: No more Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand blah blah blah then. It should be an India/Bangladesh/Sri Lanka destination next OR Australia/New Zealand... but that's weird.

Will think about combadia
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: addie on May 29, 2012, 08:33:35 AM
No Laos :iok
Hoping on a new Central Asia country then.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Dom on May 29, 2012, 02:46:58 PM
I am VERY excited about the cast this season. It looks like a really varied bunch of racers with tons of interesting stories to tell!

Also, I'm madly in love with the blonde girls..
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
Apparently Brent and Josh have more that their reality documentary series The Fabulous Beekman Boys going for them. The third season of their series is scheduled to air later this year on the Cooking Channel, and apparently their formal engagement party was filmed for the next season of The Real Housewives of New York, also airing later this year on Bravo.
Yep, they're an engaged couple as they live in New York which legalized same *** marriage late last year.....and I suspect production is almost certain to label them as "engaged" when this season airs in September. So I think we might want to move away from "gay goat farmers" and maybe move towards "engaged goat farmers" perhaps?
http://www.queerty.com/exclusive-the-fabulous-beekman-boys-got-engaged-last-night-20111217/ (http://www.queerty.com/exclusive-the-fabulous-beekman-boys-got-engaged-last-night-20111217/)
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Jobby on May 30, 2012, 01:32:48 AM
"Gay Goat Farmers..."

Hmm, wonder if there's any Brokeback Mountain jokes. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Prophet on May 30, 2012, 09:02:31 PM
But they are going to completely different areas this time. And they had never been to that country before in 18 seasons so they are making up for it. It still comes to only four episodes in 21 seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: selfeviction on May 30, 2012, 09:10:18 PM
So glad both F/F survived 2 legs! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: paldog123456 on May 30, 2012, 09:20:46 PM
Hoping my Michigan team is still in the race :(
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: reta on May 30, 2012, 09:25:36 PM
Hoping my Michigan team is still in the race :(

I hope too, they are pretty nice and polite.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Cocoa on May 31, 2012, 01:13:37 AM
Phil is once again, wearing a hat. :( I like to see him with his chicken-hairdue. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Theo on May 31, 2012, 01:26:23 AM
Phil is once again, wearing a hat. :( I like to see him with his chicken-hairdue. :lol:

Part of the final task maybe? Identify Phil's hat? :lol: If I'm not mistaken, Phil also wore a hat in Shanghai, right?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: theschnauzers on May 31, 2012, 01:47:52 AM
I think Phil has been instructed by doctors to wear protective headware from the sun. If there's any risk for skin cancer, that is often what patients are told by their doctors.
Until the last year or so, Phil may have had headwear on once or twice, but it looks as if the is wearing the summer hat whenever he has to wait for teams in direct sunlight. If its a location where he's not in direct sunlight, then he seems to not wear headgear.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Jobby on May 31, 2012, 02:29:55 AM
I am actually glad they visited Indonesia again... but where is Philippines? :'(
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Kamineko on May 31, 2012, 09:22:16 AM
It's so fun to see that they're visiting Indonesia again... :hearts: :hearts:

However, I think that they're doing legs in Java just too much.. I just don't like the way that they overused Java in 4 legs (TAR19 included)! There are OTHER areas in Indonesia other than the island of Java!
Why don't they visit Sumatra and it's beautiful Sianok Canyon or Lake Toba?? :duno:
Why don't they visit Bunaken National Park?? :duno:
Why don't they visit Bali, Lombok, or Komodo National Park?? :duno:
Why don't they visit the beautiful Raja Ampat Islands?? :duno:

You see, there are MANY areas in Indonesia other than Java! :tup: So, if they're going to Indonesia again in other seasons, I hope that they also visit other places other than Java.. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: kevin2012 on June 03, 2012, 04:11:57 AM
I AM STEAMING! I AM FURIOUS! I came to Shanghai 3 months after the filming of season 16 and I thought I was so close. Now this season came to Shanghai... I still live in Shanghai...

...

...

but I WAS ON HOLIDAY!

yep during the first leg filming of season 21, I was in Thailand. Lady luck hates me
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: topaz on June 03, 2012, 04:40:00 AM
I am actually glad they visited Indonesia again... but where is Philippines? :'(
Blame our airport in NAIA, dude!  It is one of the WORST airport in the world and because of the "Thrilla In NAIA" incident that happened last month spoiled by Mon Tulfo, Raymart Santiago and Claudine Barretto there. :gaah:
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Post by: themikko on June 03, 2012, 04:43:20 AM
Ummm. How is our airport the one to blame? I think it's because our rainy season has just begun. No?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Jobby on June 03, 2012, 06:48:52 AM
Erm no, I've been to Philippines airport and it's not the worst. I've been to even worst ones. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 03, 2012, 11:19:20 AM
I AM STEAMING! I AM FURIOUS! I came to Shanghai 3 months after the filming of season 16 and I thought I was so close. Now this season came to Shanghai... I still live in Shanghai...

...

...

but I WAS ON HOLIDAY!

yep during the first leg filming of season 21, I was in Thailand. Lady luck hates me

Aww..... that sucks!

:ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: topaz on June 03, 2012, 11:23:22 PM
Erm no, I've been to Philippines airport and it's not the worst. I've been to even worst ones. :lol:
ummm.... which one, joab? :iok
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: reta on June 03, 2012, 11:57:40 PM
I AM STEAMING! I AM FURIOUS! I came to Shanghai 3 months after the filming of season 16 and I thought I was so close. Now this season came to Shanghai... I still live in Shanghai...

...

...

but I WAS ON HOLIDAY!

yep during the first leg filming of season 21, I was in Thailand. Lady luck hates me

Oops..That's too bad...
S16, S21, maybe they will come back in S26? Just guess...
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Post by: Alenaveda on June 04, 2012, 08:50:15 AM
I AM STEAMING! I AM FURIOUS! I came to Shanghai 3 months after the filming of season 16 and I thought I was so close. Now this season came to Shanghai... I still live in Shanghai...

...

...

but I WAS ON HOLIDAY!

yep during the first leg filming of season 21, I was in Thailand. Lady luck hates me

Well, I live and work in Buenos Aires; I usually goes to the Bus Terminal for sending or retrieving packages for the company I am part of a couple days a week; and I didn't see the teams the day they arrived from Salta.  And that gives me a 3 of 3 in not crossing my path with TAR, including previous legs in Bs. As.; so lady luck hates me too. :groan:

Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Reilly Queens on June 06, 2012, 08:25:37 AM
Bangladesh!!!
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Mug Costanza on June 06, 2012, 01:12:24 PM
No new countries (that we know of) yet... :groan:

This route is starting to resemble that of TAR15 or TAR19, which is not good news for me...
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: georgiapeach on June 06, 2012, 10:35:07 PM
New PLACES are what matters to me. I don't care if they are new countries. The world is a very big place. :hearts:
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Post by: theschnauzers on June 06, 2012, 11:17:28 PM
It's a good thing Bangladesh became independent of Pakistan after the civil war there in the 1970s, or else it might not be off the safe place to travel list (unless Pakistan itself).
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: choroneko on June 07, 2012, 02:23:51 PM
I"m not going to expect much in Shanghai being the first leg. Usually first legs are underwhelming and short.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: guacamole300 on June 07, 2012, 04:36:07 PM
I agree. First legs used to be much more exciting.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: selfeviction on June 11, 2012, 02:55:00 PM
Sri Lankan sisters survived to Amsterdam yay!  :hearts: :<3 :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: supah on June 11, 2012, 02:58:29 PM
Sri Lankan sisters survived to Amsterdam yay!  :hearts: :<3 :hrt:

that means we will get to see a lot of them this season :hearts:
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Post by: selfeviction on June 11, 2012, 03:02:43 PM
Sri Lankan sisters survived to Amsterdam yay!  :hearts: :<3 :hrt:

that means we will get to see a lot of them this season :hearts:
True that!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: supah on June 11, 2012, 03:10:57 PM
Sri Lankan sisters survived to Amsterdam yay!  :hearts: :<3 :hrt:

that means we will get to see a lot of them this season :hearts:
True that!  :tup:

it seems like we are very far into the race, and we havent seen a new FF team go far since TAR17 :hearts: (Kisha and Jen won TAR18 but that was their 2nd race)

we havent seen the blonde FF team for a while, Im just glad the Sri Lankan sisters are still running :luvya:
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Post by: Jobby on June 15, 2012, 10:29:41 AM
AMSTERDAM CENTRAL?? I WAS JUST THERE LIKE... BARELY 20 DAYS AGO BEFORE FILMING. I AM PISSED. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: maxen on June 15, 2012, 12:27:47 PM
 :gaah: I'm not feeling this route.
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Post by: north09 on June 15, 2012, 01:21:38 PM
Sri Lankan sisters survived to Amsterdam yay!  :hearts: :<3 :hrt:

that means we will get to see a lot of them this season :hearts:
True that!  :tup:

it seems like we are very far into the race, and we havent seen a new FF team go far since TAR17 :hearts: (Kisha and Jen won TAR18 but that was their 2nd race)

we havent seen the blonde FF team for a while, Im just glad the Sri Lankan sisters are still running :luvya:

I believe it is also speculated that Nadine & Natalie won the Express Pass on leg 2. It would look like we have a new alpha F/F team. I'm loving them.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 15, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
So it's a 3 continent race. I would have preferred more but I am loving some of these new places we are going to. I speculate Leg 8 is somewhere new in Europe. Riga, Latvia? Sofia, Bulgaria?

USA-China-Indonesia-Indonesia-Bangladesh-Bangladesh?-Turkey-Russia-Latvia or Bulgaria?-Netherlands-Spain-France-USA
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Post by: Reilly Queens on June 16, 2012, 09:02:54 AM
No new countries?! :( I thought we had Gibraltar, lol
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Post by: Theo on June 16, 2012, 09:38:38 AM
I really hope we'll see at least one new country :(
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Post by: apskip on June 16, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
No new countries?! :( I thought we had Gibraltar, lol

We were close through Ibiza!

We were eventually bound to have a season where no new countries were to be featured.

However, we have underutilized countries: Spain (No full leg ever), Turkey (1 leg), Bangladesh (1 leg), Indonesia (1 season).

leafsfan,

Where did you get your data on "no full leg ever" for Spain? Of course this depends on how you count it, but AR10 ep. 12 teams had a ROADBLOCK in Casablanca then flew to Barcelona for an exciting episode ending at Montjuic. The finale, ep. 13 started with finding Gaudi's unfinished church before flying to Paris. The way I count it that makes a full leg in Barcelona. 
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: theschnauzers on June 16, 2012, 04:59:35 PM
I look at legs as pit stop to pit stop (basically), and by that measure, we had not had a full leg in Spain, apparently, until now. Half legs, yes. But not a full leg.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Mandoli on June 18, 2012, 07:44:57 AM
Every season has that one team that I go... "Are you kidding me" in good ways. Like, never expected that kind of team, and really interested in that said team.

And then there's the beauty queen thing. I don't get the obsession with them.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Chateau d If on June 20, 2012, 01:35:16 PM
Every season has that one team that I go... "Are you kidding me" in good ways. Like, never expected that kind of team, and really interested in that said team.

And then there's the beauty queen thing. I don't get the obsession with them.

I think you will get a big dose of this with Brittany & Caitlin   ;)

Just my speculation.  It will depend on the editing.   :lol:
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Post by: Jobby on August 19, 2012, 01:22:56 PM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:
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Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
I know. No big jigs or jags into Africa, Austalia, or ....Antarctica!!  :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: apskip on August 19, 2012, 07:47:46 PM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

Joab, your estimate is not the remotest bit close to the real mileage for AR5. It appears that you are using either a World Race Productions source (notorious for overestimating the mileage of Amazing Races) or some other invalid source. Here are the statistics for each of the legs, using www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/howfar.htm. I am going to approach this by separating out the air miles, which I will show as statute miles at the conversion factor of 1.15 statute miles/air mile, from the fairly small ground transportation segments, which will be in statue miles to start with. One approximation which will tend to understate the air miles is that real trips involve connections at airports not on the line between the origination and destination point. I have used connecting points in only a few instances where I know them.

Here are those segments:                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                         Air Miles   Statute Miles   
1. Los Angeles to Montevideo                                                                                                                                    6182
   Montevideo to Punta del Este                                                                                                                                                   90
2. Punta del Este to Montevideo                                                                                                                                                  90
   Montevideo to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                                   150
3. Buenos Aires to San Carlos de Bariloche                                                                                                                    857
4. San Carlos de Bariloche to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                  947
5. Buenos Aires to St. Petersburg                                                                                                                                8171
6. St. Petersburg to Cairo                                                                                                                                           2073
7. Cairo to Nairobi                                                                                                                                                     2173
    Nairobi to Kilimanjaro airport                                                                                                                                    100
    Kilimanjaro to Mto Wa Mbu                                                                                                                                      100
8. Mto Wa Mbu to Kilimanjaro                                                                                                                                       100 
    Kilimanjaro to Nairobi                                                                                                                                              100
    Nairobi to Dubai                                                                                                                                                    2181
9. Dubai to Calcutta                                                                                                                                                  2100
10. Calcutta to Auckland                                                                                                                                            5907
11Auckland                                                                                                                                                              4922
12. Manila to El Nido Island                                                                                                                                         231
13. El Nido Island to Manila                                                                                                                                          231
     Manila to Calgary                                                                                                                                                 6862
     Calgary to Banff                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Banff to Calgary                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Calgary to Denver                                                                                                                                                  939 
     Denver to Dallas/Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                      658
     DFW to Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                                                 25

That gives me a total of 43225 air miles, which is equivalent to 49709 statute miles. Direct statute miles from ground segments total 1924. The total in statute mile equivalents is 51633, more than 20,000 miles short of 72K.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: theschnauzers on August 19, 2012, 09:29:35 PM
I'm not going to try and compute this, but there were seasons where I thought someone in production confused statute miles for kilometers, because that was about the only way the number used by Phil on the finish mat or in promos could even be close to the actual statute miles. :)
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Prophet on August 20, 2012, 08:53:38 AM
I know. No big jigs or jags into Africa, Austalia, or ....Antarctica!!  :gaah:

is that a possibility for future seasons? :lol:

apskip <3
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: David on August 20, 2012, 11:18:39 AM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

I think it is 72K KILOMETERS, maybe?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Marionete on August 20, 2012, 01:09:39 PM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

I think it is 72K KILOMETERS, maybe?
No, wikipedia says 72k miles, which transfers to 116k kilometers, so apparently they're mistaken.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: theschnauzers on August 20, 2012, 01:19:49 PM
Marionete, I think you are misreading what is being referred to. The thinking was that the 72,000 "miles" were actually kilometers, which would be about 44739 miles.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Charlie90 on August 20, 2012, 01:50:13 PM
So are we counting the US in those 9 countries visited in this season? I seem to recall that the US is not counted but i could be wrong..hopefully im not :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Dom on August 20, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
So are we counting the US in those 9 countries visited in this season? I seem to recall that the US is not counted but i could be wrong..hopefully im not :lol:

Yes unfortunately when Phil says '8/9/10/11 countries' at the finish line, the count always includes the US, so we would assume the promo follows the same rules.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Marionete on August 21, 2012, 06:50:21 AM
Marionete, I think you are misreading what is being referred to. The thinking was that the 72,000 "miles" were actually kilometers, which would be about 44739 miles.
Oh, okay, then it seems right ;)

So are we counting the US in those 9 countries visited in this season? I seem to recall that the US is not counted but i could be wrong..hopefully im not :lol:

Yes unfortunately when Phil says '8/9/10/11 countries' at the finish line, the count always includes the US, so we would assume the promo follows the same rules.
Correct!
I just hope that if they're staying in Russia for a second leg and not having a double visit to The Netherlands, they visit some rural, less known place. :)
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: choroneko on August 23, 2012, 04:14:23 PM
So are we counting the US in those 9 countries visited in this season? I seem to recall that the US is not counted but i could be wrong..hopefully im not :lol:

Yes unfortunately when Phil says '8/9/10/11 countries' at the finish line, the count always includes the US, so we would assume the promo follows the same rules.
Correct!
I just hope that if they're staying in Russia for a second leg and not having a double visit to The Netherlands, they visit some rural, less known place. :)
[/quote]

Yep! A location other than Moscow or St. Petersburg pls!
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Air on August 24, 2012, 01:01:45 AM
TBH, I reckon the second Russia leg is going to be Moscow & surrounds or maybe Sochi (2014 Winter Olympic Games, anyone?). I don't think they'll travel that far out eastwards because it will be ridiculous to go back towards The Netherlands.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Jobby on August 24, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

Joab, your estimate is not the remotest bit close to the real mileage for AR5. It appears that you are using either a World Race Productions source (notorious for overestimating the mileage of Amazing Races) or some other invalid source. Here are the statistics for each of the legs, using www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/howfar.htm. I am going to approach this by separating out the air miles, which I will show as statute miles at the conversion factor of 1.15 statute miles/air mile, from the fairly small ground transportation segments, which will be in statue miles to start with. One approximation which will tend to understate the air miles is that real trips involve connections at airports not on the line between the origination and destination point. I have used connecting points in only a few instances where I know them.

Here are those segments:                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                         Air Miles   Statute Miles   
1. Los Angeles to Montevideo                                                                                                                                    6182
   Montevideo to Punta del Este                                                                                                                                                   90
2. Punta del Este to Montevideo                                                                                                                                                  90
   Montevideo to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                                   150
3. Buenos Aires to San Carlos de Bariloche                                                                                                                    857
4. San Carlos de Bariloche to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                  947
5. Buenos Aires to St. Petersburg                                                                                                                                8171
6. St. Petersburg to Cairo                                                                                                                                           2073
7. Cairo to Nairobi                                                                                                                                                     2173
    Nairobi to Kilimanjaro airport                                                                                                                                    100
    Kilimanjaro to Mto Wa Mbu                                                                                                                                      100
8. Mto Wa Mbu to Kilimanjaro                                                                                                                                       100 
    Kilimanjaro to Nairobi                                                                                                                                              100
    Nairobi to Dubai                                                                                                                                                    2181
9. Dubai to Calcutta                                                                                                                                                  2100
10. Calcutta to Auckland                                                                                                                                            5907
11Auckland                                                                                                                                                              4922
12. Manila to El Nido Island                                                                                                                                         231
13. El Nido Island to Manila                                                                                                                                          231
     Manila to Calgary                                                                                                                                                 6862
     Calgary to Banff                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Banff to Calgary                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Calgary to Denver                                                                                                                                                  939 
     Denver to Dallas/Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                      658
     DFW to Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                                                 25

That gives me a total of 43225 air miles, which is equivalent to 49709 statute miles. Direct statute miles from ground segments total 1924. The total in statute mile equivalents is 51633, more than 20,000 miles short of 72K.

YES, I AM USING A WORLD RACE PRODUCTION SOURCE. CAN'T I?  :res:

I have absolute trust with Phil and his words at the finish line. :) Who cares about evidence and statistics. They could have included all the layovers, transfers or road travelled distance without YOUR knowledge. :)
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: theschnauzers on August 24, 2012, 02:11:17 PM
I'm going to repeat myself:

Quote
Marionete, I think you are misreading what is being referred to. The thinking was that the 72,000 "miles" were actually kilometers, which would be about 44739 miles.

I've manage to explain already where the 72,000 came from; someone at WRP muxed up kilometers and miles and how they managed to let that mistake slip through I still have no indea.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Declive on August 24, 2012, 02:32:49 PM
Totally agree with Joab on this one. Why tha hell we need to research? They SAID IT , even if it's wrong , it's in them that we'll believe , obviously.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: ianthebalance on August 24, 2012, 08:00:55 PM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

Joab, your estimate is not the remotest bit close to the real mileage for AR5. It appears that you are using either a World Race Productions source (notorious for overestimating the mileage of Amazing Races) or some other invalid source. Here are the statistics for each of the legs, using www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/howfar.htm. I am going to approach this by separating out the air miles, which I will show as statute miles at the conversion factor of 1.15 statute miles/air mile, from the fairly small ground transportation segments, which will be in statue miles to start with. One approximation which will tend to understate the air miles is that real trips involve connections at airports not on the line between the origination and destination point. I have used connecting points in only a few instances where I know them.

Here are those segments:                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                         Air Miles   Statute Miles   
1. Los Angeles to Montevideo                                                                                                                                    6182
   Montevideo to Punta del Este                                                                                                                                                   90
2. Punta del Este to Montevideo                                                                                                                                                  90
   Montevideo to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                                   150
3. Buenos Aires to San Carlos de Bariloche                                                                                                                    857
4. San Carlos de Bariloche to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                  947
5. Buenos Aires to St. Petersburg                                                                                                                                8171
6. St. Petersburg to Cairo                                                                                                                                           2073
7. Cairo to Nairobi                                                                                                                                                     2173
    Nairobi to Kilimanjaro airport                                                                                                                                    100
    Kilimanjaro to Mto Wa Mbu                                                                                                                                      100
8. Mto Wa Mbu to Kilimanjaro                                                                                                                                       100 
    Kilimanjaro to Nairobi                                                                                                                                              100
    Nairobi to Dubai                                                                                                                                                    2181
9. Dubai to Calcutta                                                                                                                                                  2100
10. Calcutta to Auckland                                                                                                                                            5907
11Auckland                                                                                                                                                              4922
12. Manila to El Nido Island                                                                                                                                         231
13. El Nido Island to Manila                                                                                                                                          231
     Manila to Calgary                                                                                                                                                 6862
     Calgary to Banff                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Banff to Calgary                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Calgary to Denver                                                                                                                                                  939 
     Denver to Dallas/Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                      658
     DFW to Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                                                 25

That gives me a total of 43225 air miles, which is equivalent to 49709 statute miles. Direct statute miles from ground segments total 1924. The total in statute mile equivalents is 51633, more than 20,000 miles short of 72K.

YES, I AM USING A WORLD RACE PRODUCTION SOURCE. CAN'T I?  :res:

I have absolute trust with Phil and his words at the finish line. :) Who cares about evidence and statistics. They could have included all the layovers, transfers or road travelled distance without YOUR knowledge. :)

Dont trust Phil. At the Season 20 Finish Line he said "9 countries".
1. USA
2. Argentina
3. Paraguay
4. Italy
5. Austria
6. Germany
7. Azerbijian
8. Tanzania
9. India
10. Japan
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: ianthebalance on August 24, 2012, 09:25:38 PM
Austria doesn't count.

Then why did Phil say 10 countries at Season 19's Finish Line?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Kacper on August 24, 2012, 09:49:50 PM
Austria doesn't count.

It does. They just don't count the States. Phil said 10 countries in season 19 cuz it was 10 countries..excluding the U.S.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: georgiapeach on August 24, 2012, 10:19:53 PM
Totally agree with Joab on this one. Why tha hell we need to research? They SAID IT , even if it's wrong , it's in them that we'll believe , obviously.

Oh please. There have been notorious errors in this regards. Of course WE never take things at face value, right? That's our job!! And there was some great mileage calculator tool that was brought up a few seasons back when this came up...wish we could find that post, it showed how crazy far off they can be!!



And whether ANY of you agree or disagree please do remember to be POLITE in saying so, okay?? :ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: ianthebalance on August 25, 2012, 12:07:52 AM

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Then why did Phil say 10 countries at Season 19's Finish Line?
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Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Air on August 25, 2012, 12:15:42 AM
For the record, Austria does count. Teams were not only specifically directed to pick up their cars there, but is also listed in Wikipedia for a visit. And the Netherlands and Germany counted in TAR19, so this makes sense.
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: ianthebalance on August 25, 2012, 01:57:54 AM
For the record, Austria does count. Teams were not only specifically directed to pick up their cars there, but is also listed in Wikipedia for a visit. And the Netherlands and Germany counted in TAR19, so this makes sense.

Thank you!!!  :hearts: This is why I cannot believe Phil said "5 continents, 9 countries..."
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Dom on August 25, 2012, 07:30:29 AM
I compared my total countries visited for each season with Phil's total, and he includes USA MOST of the time, but not all. There's only a few discrepancies:

In S3, England and Scotland are counted separately, but that could be counted either way.
In S9, Phil says 9 countries, but there are clearly 10 visited, so I can only assume they didn't count the USA this season. Brazil, Russia, Germany, Italy, Greece, Oman, Australia, Thailand, Japan and the USA all have tasks in them.
In S15, Phil says 8 countries, but there are 9 visited, so again, the USA isn't counted. Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia, UAE, Netherlands, Sweden, Estonia, Czech Republic and USA all have tasks in them.
In S20, Phil says 9 countries, which would imply the exclusion of Austria or USA. I'm inclined to agree with Airlinesguy and say that this time, the USA was excluded.

So 2 or 3 times, Phil has excluded the USA, possible in the most recent season. I definitely don't think we can say for sure that the missing leg isn't in a new country.. (My money's on Slovakia!)
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Magnus on August 25, 2012, 08:05:13 AM
So are we counting the US in those 9 countries visited in this season? I seem to recall that the US is not counted but i could be wrong..hopefully im not :lol:

Yes unfortunately when Phil says '8/9/10/11 countries' at the finish line, the count always includes the US, so we would assume the promo follows the same rules.

Well why wouldn't he? It is a country after all and they do the most important tasks of the season there.


I know. No big jigs or jags into Africa, Austalia, or ....Antarctica!!  :gaah:

is that a possibility for future seasons? :lol:

apskip <3

I just love apskip's posts :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Magnus on August 25, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
YES, I AM USING A WORLD RACE PRODUCTION SOURCE. CAN'T I?  :res:

I have absolute trust with Phil and his words at the finish line. :) Who cares about evidence and statistics. They could have included all the layovers, transfers or road travelled distance without YOUR knowledge. :)

This is a joke right? :lol3:

I love Phil and WRP too but they are obviously more interested in exaggerating the facts for marketing than actual precision. Phil is probably just reading a script. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: selfeviction on August 25, 2012, 11:16:40 PM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

Joab, your estimate is not the remotest bit close to the real mileage for AR5. It appears that you are using either a World Race Productions source (notorious for overestimating the mileage of Amazing Races) or some other invalid source. Here are the statistics for each of the legs, using www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/howfar.htm. I am going to approach this by separating out the air miles, which I will show as statute miles at the conversion factor of 1.15 statute miles/air mile, from the fairly small ground transportation segments, which will be in statue miles to start with. One approximation which will tend to understate the air miles is that real trips involve connections at airports not on the line between the origination and destination point. I have used connecting points in only a few instances where I know them.

Here are those segments:                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                         Air Miles   Statute Miles   
1. Los Angeles to Montevideo                                                                                                                                    6182
   Montevideo to Punta del Este                                                                                                                                                   90
2. Punta del Este to Montevideo                                                                                                                                                  90
   Montevideo to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                                   150
3. Buenos Aires to San Carlos de Bariloche                                                                                                                    857
4. San Carlos de Bariloche to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                  947
5. Buenos Aires to St. Petersburg                                                                                                                                8171
6. St. Petersburg to Cairo                                                                                                                                           2073
7. Cairo to Nairobi                                                                                                                                                     2173
    Nairobi to Kilimanjaro airport                                                                                                                                    100
    Kilimanjaro to Mto Wa Mbu                                                                                                                                      100
8. Mto Wa Mbu to Kilimanjaro                                                                                                                                       100 
    Kilimanjaro to Nairobi                                                                                                                                              100
    Nairobi to Dubai                                                                                                                                                    2181
9. Dubai to Calcutta                                                                                                                                                  2100
10. Calcutta to Auckland                                                                                                                                            5907
11Auckland                                                                                                                                                              4922
12. Manila to El Nido Island                                                                                                                                         231
13. El Nido Island to Manila                                                                                                                                          231
     Manila to Calgary                                                                                                                                                 6862
     Calgary to Banff                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Banff to Calgary                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Calgary to Denver                                                                                                                                                  939 
     Denver to Dallas/Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                      658
     DFW to Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                                                 25

That gives me a total of 43225 air miles, which is equivalent to 49709 statute miles. Direct statute miles from ground segments total 1924. The total in statute mile equivalents is 51633, more than 20,000 miles short of 72K.

YES, I AM USING A WORLD RACE PRODUCTION SOURCE. CAN'T I?  :res:

I have absolute trust with Phil and his words at the finish line. :) Who cares about evidence and statistics. They could have included all the layovers, transfers or road travelled distance without YOUR knowledge. :)

Dont trust Phil. At the Season 20 Finish Line he said "9 countries".
1. USA
2. Argentina
3. Paraguay
4. Italy
5. Austria
6. Germany
7. Azerbijian
8. Tanzania
9. India
10. Japan
when did they visit austria?
Title: Re: TAR 21: Bitch, Moan, and Squeal Thread **Spoilers Inside!**
Post by: Alenaveda on August 25, 2012, 11:32:59 PM
25,000 mile is pretty WTF.

TAR 5 = 72,000 mile.

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res:

Joab, your estimate is not the remotest bit close to the real mileage for AR5. It appears that you are using either a World Race Productions source (notorious for overestimating the mileage of Amazing Races) or some other invalid source. Here are the statistics for each of the legs, using www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/howfar.htm. I am going to approach this by separating out the air miles, which I will show as statute miles at the conversion factor of 1.15 statute miles/air mile, from the fairly small ground transportation segments, which will be in statue miles to start with. One approximation which will tend to understate the air miles is that real trips involve connections at airports not on the line between the origination and destination point. I have used connecting points in only a few instances where I know them.

Here are those segments:                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                         Air Miles   Statute Miles   
1. Los Angeles to Montevideo                                                                                                                                    6182
   Montevideo to Punta del Este                                                                                                                                                   90
2. Punta del Este to Montevideo                                                                                                                                                  90
   Montevideo to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                                   150
3. Buenos Aires to San Carlos de Bariloche                                                                                                                    857
4. San Carlos de Bariloche to Buenos Aires                                                                                                                                  947
5. Buenos Aires to St. Petersburg                                                                                                                                8171
6. St. Petersburg to Cairo                                                                                                                                           2073
7. Cairo to Nairobi                                                                                                                                                     2173
    Nairobi to Kilimanjaro airport                                                                                                                                    100
    Kilimanjaro to Mto Wa Mbu                                                                                                                                      100
8. Mto Wa Mbu to Kilimanjaro                                                                                                                                       100 
    Kilimanjaro to Nairobi                                                                                                                                              100
    Nairobi to Dubai                                                                                                                                                    2181
9. Dubai to Calcutta                                                                                                                                                  2100
10. Calcutta to Auckland                                                                                                                                            5907
11Auckland                                                                                                                                                              4922
12. Manila to El Nido Island                                                                                                                                         231
13. El Nido Island to Manila                                                                                                                                          231
     Manila to Calgary                                                                                                                                                 6862
     Calgary to Banff                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Banff to Calgary                                                                                                                                                                  80
     Calgary to Denver                                                                                                                                                  939 
     Denver to Dallas/Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                      658
     DFW to Ft. Worth                                                                                                                                                                 25

That gives me a total of 43225 air miles, which is equivalent to 49709 statute miles. Direct statute miles from ground segments total 1924. The total in statute mile equivalents is 51633, more than 20,000 miles short of 72K.

YES, I AM USING A WORLD RACE PRODUCTION SOURCE. CAN'T I?  :res:

I have absolute trust with Phil and his words at the finish line. :) Who cares about evidence and statistics. They could have included all the layovers, transfers or road travelled distance without YOUR knowledge. :)

Dont trust Phil. At the Season 20 Finish Line he said "9 countries".
1. USA
2. Argentina
3. Paraguay
4. Italy
5. Austria
6. Germany
7. Azerbijian
8. Tanzania
9. India
10. Japan
when did they visit austria?

Ehrwald train station (Leg 5) is in Austria.
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Post by: redwings8831 on August 26, 2012, 09:40:33 PM
Teams were not only specifically directed to pick up their cars there, but is also listed in Wikipedia for a visit. And the Netherlands and Germany counted in TAR19, so this makes sense.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: couchracer on August 29, 2012, 05:06:24 PM
It seems weird, but they may not count The USA as visited, only a start and finish.
Though they probably should include it in the count as a visit.
Do they not count countries if they just pass through? What about airport connections?
The number of visited countries could climb.
Complicated.
Maybe only countries Phil talks count as visited.
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Post by: Marionete on August 30, 2012, 05:06:16 AM
It seems weird, but they may not count The USA as visited, only a start and finish.
Though they probably should include it in the count as a visit.
Do they not count countries if they just pass through? What about airport connections?
The number of visited countries could climb.
Complicated.
Maybe only countries Phil talks count as visited.
Of course that doesn't count ..
Not as much, if you study other seasons
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Post by: supah on August 31, 2012, 07:58:24 AM
SQUEAL! On very few occasions, there is something to like about every single team, and this season they've done it again! I feel like the cast is well-balanced out, no teams have special advantages, and some really interesting teams that I hope to see more of :)
My pre-season favourites are every team, but these are the ones I'm going to support the most (in order of how awesome they are):
1. Gary & Will - The type of team I want to see on every season. The title of 'Substitute Teachers' sounds boring, but I think it's nice to see something different, not to mention they are avid cyclists and best friends. They are clearly long time TAR fans, and they seem like good guys. Definitely my #1 team this season :)
2. Jaymes & James - I was expecting the usual alpha male team which they are, HOWEVER they don't seem the too serious/competitive type, I think they'll be loads of fun to watch! They seem like good guys and I look forward to see how they race!
3. Amy & Daniel - Definitely my favourite couple, Amy is obviously an inspiration and it seems as though Daniel balances her out. I'm expecting minor bickering but I won't mind that, because they seem like awesome people!
4. James & Abba - Straight away I've predicted they're going to be our humour team this season. They remind me of a city version of Mark & Bopper :lol: I look forward to see how they race, they look like loads of fun and even though they're heavy metal heads, they seem like nice guys.
5. Caitlin & Brittany - A blonde team I have confidence in! They seem a lot more intelligent than I was expecting, and they claim they're competitive and I think they can avoid the first few eliminations, they have it in them!
6. Natalie & Nadiya - I think these two are going to be the strongest team this season, let me explain. Sibling teams tend to have the better relationships because all their troubles are sorted out in childhood, and it's easier to sort out problems in the long run. Some of the best racers in TAR history are siblings (TAR3 Wonder Twins, Australian Wonder Twins, Nick & Starr, Tammy & Victor) and the fact that these two are TWINS as well, I think they're going to be on the same wavelength. They come across as very competitive, intelligent AND physically strong. Do we have an alpha female team on our hands? I think so
7. Trey & Lexi - Is this the youngest couple we've ever had on TAR? CMIIW. I'm afraid of them developing into the token bicker team but i really hope they can stay cool like they are in their bio video :)

As for the other teams. I do LIKE them, but I don't see myself supporting them in the long run :(
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Post by: kevin2012 on August 31, 2012, 10:47:34 PM
There just HAD to be a catch to the 2 million prize!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!  :gaah:

Only one thing will make me feel better, Gangnam Style!
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Post by: Mug Costanza on September 08, 2012, 01:37:58 AM
I hate to bitch and moan about my favorite show... but I really don't like this cast. I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I need to voice my opinion. There's only like 3 teams that I really like (Gary & Will, Abbie & Ryan, Amy & Daniel), and I'm indifferent about the rest. I'm really, really hoping that'll change once the show starts and we actually see teams racing, but I really don't like this cast as a whole right now. :( :( :(
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Post by: amazing race fan on September 08, 2012, 11:00:49 AM
I hate to bitch and moan about my favorite show... but I really don't like this cast. I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but I need to voice my opinion. There's only like 3 teams that I really like (Gary & Will, Abbie & Ryan, Amy & Daniel), and I'm indifferent about the rest. I'm really, really hoping that'll change once the show starts and we actually see teams racing, but I really don't like this cast as a whole right now. :( :( :(

I agree. I thought I was the only one who hated this cast. It seems like there are too many non-competitive teams who are just on the show to produce a show rather than to race well. Just by the intro's, you can tell that about half of the teams are just not going to be competitive teams, they are on the race to get viewers.

I really haven't liked the casting since really Season 16 for seasons with new casts. I liked the cast of Unfinished Business, but that was basically an all star season. For a completely new season, the casting hasn't been good in a while.

In fact, I have thought that some of the recent seasons have had the worst casting in the history of the show(TAR 17 and TAR 19). I thought those two casts were incredibly boring, and really non-competitive with the exception of like three or four teams on each season who you knew were going to make it far in the race.

The Amazing Race is to the point where they basically dictate which teams make it to the final three. Some teams just aren't competitive, and some teams are. A group of 60 year old ladies is going to be eliminated over a pair of alpha-males in their 30's. Its just the way it is, The Amazing Race is catering their casting towards certain teams they decide to cast. I almost feel like they cast a few good teams and then cater the rest of the cast towards those teams making it far in the race by filling out the rest of the spots with non-competitive teams.

I would really like to see a season where every team could possibly win. That hasn't happened in a while, but the Amazing Race was a lot better like that.
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 08, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
I rewatched the Season 12 Finale:
Phil "10 CITIES, 4 continents, and over 30,000 miles..." :groan:
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Post by: Theo on October 01, 2012, 09:05:00 PM
Emmm... Actually, the premiere of this season was... okay for me :tup:

Yeah, I agree with the editing which seems very rushed, except the abacus part (which is totally the highlight of this episode). The tasks were okay for me too, though the rappelling task seemed unnecessary for me. It could be replaced with self-driving scene to the airport (just like old TAR that I miss :) ). The ping pong task wasn't that bad as well as the eating challenge. In my opinion, this premiere was better than the last season. :escape


For the cast, well, I heard many people complain about the casts which are 'stunt'. What do you guys think? I think casts for this season are okay. I love all of the teams so far.

I am actually worried when people complain a lot about TAR USA nowadays. I don't know...  :duno: With many people think that TAR Australia is better (not that I hate TAR: Australia. I love TAR: Australia too), I'm afraid that someday TAR USA loses its fame. :(

Anyway, do you think that one of the reasons why this premiere is disappointing for most of people because of its duration? Original TAR is just an hour episode, which is shorter than TAR Australia. Isn't TAR Aus more than an hour episode? Correct me. :)

Hope it's gonna be a nice season.

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Post by: Charlie90 on October 02, 2012, 12:14:16 AM
Actually i liked the premiere too. The tasks were ok i guess, the only issue i have is that they seemed to be a rehash from previous visits to China (Ping-pong from S1 and eating task from S10).

The season is filled with stunt casting, which at first i thought it was annoying but if the cast can entertain for the whole season without getting boring then fine by me.

Still disappointed that we wont get a new country this season but i can forget about that if the next set of legs are good. Especially the one in Spain.
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Post by: Marionete on October 02, 2012, 05:09:57 AM
Actually i liked the premiere too. The tasks were ok i guess, the only issue i have is that they seemed to be a rehash from previous visits to China (Ping-pong from S1 and eating task from S10).

The season is filled with stunt casting, which at first i thought it was annoying but if the cast can entertain for the whole season without getting boring then fine by me.

Still disappointed that we wont get a new country this season but i can forget about that if the next set of legs are good. Especially the one in Spain.
However, we still don't know what comes in between Russia & The Netherlands :tup:
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Post by: Air on October 02, 2012, 07:20:58 AM
Emmm... Actually, the premiere of this season was... okay for me :tup:

Yeah, I agree with the editing which seems very rushed, except the abacus part (which is totally the highlight of this episode). The tasks were okay for me too, though the rappelling task seemed unnecessary for me. It could be replaced with self-driving scene to the airport (just like old TAR that I miss :) ). The ping pong task wasn't that bad as well as the eating challenge. In my opinion, this premiere was better than the last season. :escape


For the cast, well, I heard many people complain about the casts which are 'stunt'. What do you guys think? I think casts for this season are okay. I love all of the teams so far.

I am actually worried when people complain a lot about TAR USA nowadays. I don't know...  :duno: With many people think that TAR Australia is better (not that I hate TAR: Australia. I love TAR: Australia too), I'm afraid that someday TAR USA loses its fame. :(

Anyway, do you think that one of the reasons why this premiere is disappointing for most of people because of its duration? Original TAR is just an hour episode, which is shorter than TAR Australia. Isn't TAR Aus more than an hour episode? Correct me. :)

Hope it's gonna be a nice season.

TARAus is supposed to be a 1hr episode but it always runs overtime.  :tup:
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Post by: supah on October 02, 2012, 07:23:28 AM
TARAus is supposed to be a 1hr episode but overrated talent shows always runs overtime.  :tup:
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Post by: Air on October 02, 2012, 07:25:21 AM
TARAus is supposed to be a 1hr episode but overrated talent shows always runs overtime.  :tup:

Or Home & Away.  :lol3: :lol3:
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Post by: maxen on October 02, 2012, 03:54:17 PM
They need to get rid of those starting line tasks, it's a waste of time.
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Post by: theschnauzers on October 02, 2012, 03:59:45 PM
They need to get rid of those starting line tasks, it's a waste of time.

The starting line tasks have either directly or indirectly determined which teams make the first flight out, and thus, which teams are more at risk of being eliminated first.
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Post by: supah on October 05, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
So I guess even though it's 3 continents, it's not a bad route. Indonesia, Bangladesh, Turkey and Spain <3
But I guess since the prize is possibly $2M, they've cut the budget of the route.
If this $2M prize continues for the rest of TAR seasons, does that mean we will continue to have small routes?  :gaah:
TBH, I would rather have a HUGE race route rather than this $2M prize.
After all only one team has a chance at $2M..
TAR19 went to these new amazing countries but some of the challenges disappointed..
TAR20 had a REALLY good route! It was actually an AMAZING route compared to recent TAR seasons.
But seriously, if $2M means smaller route, I'm not happy.
I was hoping to see Africa 3 seasons in a row (it was unexpected in TAR20) but sadly, not this time.
We'll have to wait and see what this season delivers.
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Post by: DrRox on October 05, 2012, 10:38:25 AM
So I guess even though it's 3 continents, it's not a bad route. Indonesia, Bangladesh, Turkey and Spain <3
But I guess since the prize is possibly $2M, they've cut the budget of the route.
If this $2M prize continues for the rest of TAR seasons, does that mean we will continue to have small routes?  :gaah:
TBH, I would rather have a HUGE race route rather than this $2M prize.
After all only one team has a chance at $2M..
TAR19 went to these new amazing countries but some of the challenges disappointed..
TAR20 had a REALLY good route! It was actually an AMAZING route compared to recent TAR seasons.
But seriously, if $2M means smaller route, I'm not happy.
I was hoping to see Africa 3 seasons in a row (it was unexpected in TAR20) but sadly, not this time.
We'll have to wait and see what this season delivers.

I wouldn't worry to much about the possible 2nd million dollars coming out of the production budget. Since it is not a guaranteed prize, it is most certainly going to be paid by some Insurance company if it is, in fact, won. All WRP has to do is pay for the premium for the policy.
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Post by: addie on October 08, 2012, 01:38:22 PM
I don't know where to post this but:

(http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx9/xangatheamazingracecaps3/The%20Amazing%20Race%2021/Episode%202/TAR2102-1162.jpg)

<33333333333333333333 so cute
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Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2012, 04:23:38 PM
Cutest clue giver ever!!
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Post by: gigglypiggies on October 08, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
Cutest clue giver ever!!

Idk, He PingPing from season 16 might have her beat!  :lol: He was adorable. But so is she. It is a tough call to which is cuter.
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Post by: JordanJones123 on October 08, 2012, 09:23:28 PM
Moan about Natalie and Nadine or whatever their names are. In Australia ep 1 aired last night, and they were so annoying! Always yelling and bickering and just ruining a decent episode.
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Post by: Aussie on October 09, 2012, 02:28:35 AM
Moan about Natalie and Nadine or whatever their names are. In Australia ep 1 aired last night, and they were so annoying! Always yelling and bickering and just ruining a decent episode.

sorry but a jet/cord fan can't complain about any other team being annoying.
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Post by: Reilly Queens on October 09, 2012, 02:51:36 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/9l1x2.png)(http://i.imgur.com/5EZvz.png)
Booooooo
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Post by: JordanJones123 on October 09, 2012, 07:03:15 AM
Moan about Natalie and Nadine or whatever their names are. In Australia ep 1 aired last night, and they were so annoying! Always yelling and bickering and just ruining a decent episode.

sorry but a jet/cord fan can't complain about any other team being annoying.

Ahh the beauty of different tastes - I enjoyed Jet and Cord!!! I suppose my judgement is to quick tho.
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Post by: addie on October 09, 2012, 08:29:32 AM
Moan about Natalie and Nadine or whatever their names are. In Australia ep 1 aired last night, and they were so annoying! Always yelling and bickering and just ruining a decent episode.

sorry but a jet/cord fan can't complain about any other team being annoying.
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 09, 2012, 08:44:30 AM
Moan about Natalie and Nadine or whatever their names are. In Australia ep 1 aired last night, and they were so annoying! Always yelling and bickering and just ruining a decent episode.

sorry but a jet/cord fan can't complain about any other team being annoying.

Jet and Cord ARE one of the most popular teams the race has ever had (1 of my faves also). Nadiya and Natalie are ok.....
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Post by: addie on October 09, 2012, 08:48:56 AM
Taste ;)
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Post by: gigglypiggies on October 09, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
I think I am going to squeal about this season.  :lol: to me, this season is the best season since season 17.
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Post by: Reilly Queens on October 10, 2012, 05:18:17 AM
I think I am going to squeal about this season.  :lol: to me, this season is the best season since season 17.

disagree.
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Post by: Theo on October 11, 2012, 05:31:13 PM
I think I am going to squeal about this season.  :lol: to me, this season is the best season since season 1718.
Agree :D it gives me a vibe  that this is gonna be a good season
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Post by: Charlie90 on October 13, 2012, 01:37:03 PM
I rewatched the Season 12 Finale:
Phil "10 CITIES, 4 continents, and over 30,000 miles..." :groan:

I rewatched TAR5 finale last night  and i noticed that Phil said at the finish line: 11 countries..
So they didn't count the US..and i know, there is no new country on this season, but there could always be a chance.
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Post by: Jobby on October 13, 2012, 02:02:40 PM
TAR 20 was horrible for me. TAR 21... a new change. At least we don't have Army and Wife owning the race and Whiney and Whiner complaining about how the rest of the teams suck whenever they don't win the leg... or Brendon and Majorbreakdown crying every few moments into the episode and saying something stupid.

They made this season cast seem as though they are a bunch of friendly teletubbies living together on a hill. <3

The only thing to <////3 is Amy and Daniel's BAD LUCK CABBY unfair elimination. But then again, there were ten teams and if they got eliminated this early, it really means it was not their race to win. :'(
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Post by: Jobby on October 13, 2012, 02:04:16 PM
I don't know where to post this but:

<33333333333333333333 so cute

*Removed the pic, don't want to double post a picture...

BUT. I MISSED THAT SCENE.

AWWWWWWWWWW. CUTE!!!! :colors :wohoo: :luvya: :luvya: :luvya: :luvya: :hearts:
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Post by: gigglypiggies on October 13, 2012, 03:28:07 PM
The only thing to <////3 is Amy and Daniel's BAD LUCK CABBY unfair elimination. But then again, there were ten teams and if they got eliminated this early, it really means it was not their race to win. :'(

Idk, a lot of teams eliminated early had real potential. I don't think you can say that it wasn't their race to win, because any team could've been stuck with a bad cab. just so happens that it was my favorite team in the race. It sucks, but it happens.

Debbie and Bianca could've gone far, but they got turned around in Chile(?). Jeff and Jordan could've won, just had bad luck with their cabby in germany and couldn't catch up. Then there is Azaria and Hendekia, who would've probably won the race had they not accidentally bought business class. Lena and Christy probably wouldn't have won, but they could've made top 5 i bet. And then there are teams that make it to the end that don't deserve it at all (Dan and Andrew, anyone?). That is what is sucky but exciting about the race. Luck with taxi drivers, luck with locals, luck with tasks, luck with directions, luck with everything plays a huge role in the race, and it has eliminated some of the top teams. So you really never know who is going to be eliminated next.
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 13, 2012, 06:19:50 PM
I rewatched the Season 12 Finale:
Phil "10 CITIES, 4 continents, and over 30,000 miles..." :groan:

I rewatched TAR5 finale last night  and i noticed that Phil said at the finish line: 11 countries..
So they didn't count the US..and i know, there is no new country on this season, but there could always be a chance.

Read my quote carefully.
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Post by: Reilly Queens on October 13, 2012, 06:35:48 PM
Im still pissed at the TAR19 Clone route :lol:

But I like a majority of the teams surprisingly! Trexie, Chips, Sri Lanka, Abby/Ryan, AmyDaniel, RobSheila.. which is a shocking amount because usually I can't decide who I want to go home next.
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Post by: Charlie90 on October 13, 2012, 11:56:04 PM
I rewatched the Season 12 Finale:
Phil "10 CITIES, 4 continents, and over 30,000 miles..." :groan:

I rewatched TAR5 finale last night  and i noticed that Phil said at the finish line: 11 countries..
So they didn't count the US..and i know, there is no new country on this season, but there could always be a chance.

Read my quote carefully.

Done...
I was referring to the fact that they don't always count the US on some seasons.
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Post by: ovalorange on October 14, 2012, 12:40:00 AM
because usually I can't decide who I want to go home next.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: gigglypiggies on October 14, 2012, 03:32:12 PM
usually I can't decide who I want to go home next.

It is easy for me. But that is another good thing about this particular race, you feel so strongly about the teams one way or the other, so you actually care when someone gets eliminated. Seasons like 13, 15, or 16 definitely didn't have that same effect.
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Post by: Reilly Queens on October 14, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
OKay if the blondes go next, this is becoming a horrible boot order(which could equal the Jethan-KayLisa-Twins from Tar19)

oh and that China leg. Which ChinaTown did they use??
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Post by: theschnauzers on October 14, 2012, 06:20:34 PM
The worse performing team after 2 weeks (by a wide margin) are Gary and Will (averaging 8.5 placements). Every other teams is averaging at least 6.5 or better. take it for what it's worth.
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Post by: Jimmer on October 14, 2012, 06:43:32 PM
The worse performing team after 2 weeks (by a wide margin) are Gary and Will (averaging 8.5 placements). Every other teams is averaging at least 6.5 or better. take it for what it's worth.

I think it's because they were on the last flight to China and they performed poorly at the roadblock. Personally, I wouldn't worry about them (unless the poor performance on tasks becomes a trend :lol:)
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Post by: Theo on October 14, 2012, 08:41:31 PM
I'm enjoying this season so far, honestly :hearts:

Hopefully it keeps getting better and better
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Post by: Jimmer on October 14, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
I'm enjoying this season so far, honestly :hearts:

Hopefully it keeps getting better and better

Except for the fact that good teams get eliminated by bad luck. :'(
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Post by: Theo on October 14, 2012, 08:46:54 PM
I'm enjoying this season so far, honestly :hearts:

Hopefully it keeps getting better and better

Except for the fact that good teams get eliminated by bad luck. :'(
Yeah :(
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Post by: addie on October 16, 2012, 02:25:39 PM
the locations really suck this season, especially the indonesian ones.  :lol:
Indonesia is way prettier than that random thingy.
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Post by: gigglypiggies on October 21, 2012, 06:27:20 PM
 :hyper: back to Dhaka!!! I just wish that they wouldn't spend 2 legs in every country it feels like.
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Post by: Theo on October 21, 2012, 07:15:07 PM
the locations really suck this season, especially the indonesian ones.  :lol:
Indonesia is way prettier than that random thingy.
I think they try to show different side of Indonesia. :)

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Actually, I don't like the location they used for this season either. :lol:. It makes me surprised they didn't race in Madura. It's really beautiful, honestly.
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Post by: Theo on October 21, 2012, 07:17:18 PM
:hyper: back to Dhaka!!! I just wish that they wouldn't spend 2 legs in every country it feels like.
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Post by: RachelLeVega on October 22, 2012, 09:15:25 PM
Well, they "bull raced" in Madura, but I'm not sure if that counts.

But here's my (:;) , :gaah: , and  :tantrum session.

I love the teams this season, but the s19 style routing is so frigglestomping :lol: because I wanted to see something more diverse and different. China = Taiwan, Indonesian legs, Bangladesh legs = Thailand legs, and now it's Turkey = Malawi. Let's just hope they won't do two more legs in Turkey despite the fact that TARAUS2 already visited there twice.
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Post by: Alenaveda on October 22, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
Well, they "bull raced" in Madura, but I'm not sure if that counts.

But here's my (:;) , :gaah: , and  :tantrum session.

I love the teams this season, but the s19 style routing is so frigglestomping :lol: because I wanted to see something more diverse and different. China = Taiwan, Indonesian legs, Bangladesh legs = Thailand legs, and now it's Turkey = Malawi. Let's just hope they won't do two more legs in Turkey despite the fact that TARAUS2 already visited there twice.

No, only one leg.
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 22, 2012, 09:29:05 PM
Well, they "bull raced" in Madura, but I'm not sure if that counts.

But here's my (:;) , :gaah: , and  :tantrum session.

I love the teams this season, but the s19 style routing is so frigglestomping :lol: because I wanted to see something more diverse and different. China = Taiwan, Indonesian legs, Bangladesh legs = Thailand legs, and now it's Turkey = Malawi. Let's just hope they won't do two more legs in Turkey despite the fact that TARAUS2 already visited there twice.

How is Turkey=Malawi?!!!
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Post by: Cocoa on October 22, 2012, 11:24:41 PM
gawd this is a horrible season
tar is horrible now
it pains my heart to say this, but tar has taken a turn for the worst
or i just lost interest in it, dunno :(
or maybe i just love survivor more and i keep on comparing them :(
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Post by: ovalorange on October 22, 2012, 11:56:10 PM
^You're not the only one who feels that way :(
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 23, 2012, 12:09:39 AM
I actually thought episode 4 was the best so far this season.
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Post by: supah on October 23, 2012, 05:16:06 AM
I actually thought episode 4 was the best so far this season.

This season hasn't really delivered any amazing episodes yet, but I agree that it was the best one so far. I really liked the Fast Forward as it wasn't the usual 'eat something gross' or 'perform some crazy stunt'. It required Jabba to do some intensive running and cleaning up Dhaka  :lol: I absolutely loved that moment when they were running down the street and all the kids were following them! The Roadblock was simple, but it required precision and some amount of strength, it was a good Roadblock. The Detour wasn't as great. I loved the boat travel and the Pit Stop location!
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Post by: addie on October 23, 2012, 05:38:07 AM
1. Bangladesh I
2. Indonesia I
3. China
4. Indonesia II
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Post by: RachelLeVega on October 23, 2012, 06:36:40 AM
Well, they "bull raced" in Madura, but I'm not sure if that counts.

But here's my (:;) , :gaah: , and  :tantrum session.

I love the teams this season, but the s19 style routing is so frigglestomping :lol: because I wanted to see something more diverse and different. China = Taiwan, Indonesian legs, Bangladesh legs = Thailand legs, and now it's Turkey = Malawi. Let's just hope they won't do two more legs in Turkey despite the fact that TARAUS2 already visited there twice.

What I meant was that IF Turkey also had two legs, it would then become a s19 route. But so far as the episodes have been shown on TV, it looks like s19.

How is Turkey=Malawi?!!!
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Post by: Dom on November 30, 2012, 04:13:19 AM
Why did they have to go to Majorca?! Wish it was MENorca.. I've been there about 15 times!