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The Amazing Race => The Amazing Race Discussion => Topic started by: Declive on May 13, 2012, 05:33:03 PM

Title: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: Declive on May 13, 2012, 05:33:03 PM
Every time when i watch a final leg i think :

WHY GOD , WHY THEY STILL LET TAXIS BECOME PART OF THE FINAL LEG??????????????????????????????

Don't you guys think is unfair? Like , Gary and Mallory , Jaime and Cara , Jeremy and Sandy (i think) , Jill and Thomas ( i think) , Art and JJ...
They all could have won if wasn't their taxis!!!
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Post by: maxen on May 13, 2012, 06:11:27 PM
Just imagine a person driving for a million dollars.
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Post by: SuperTux on May 13, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
On China Rush S2 Finale teams had to drive by themselves all the way in Shanghai. It worked well.
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Post by: choroneko on May 13, 2012, 08:55:20 PM
I don't think it's the taxi driver's fault why Jeremy & Sandy and Art & JJ lost.
Jeremy & Sandy went to the wrong dump. It's all their own fault.
And Art sucked in the sledding. They were given huge time advantage when Rachel & Dave made a mistake. And they still lost. The taxi driver only drives. It's you who should navigate if you are very eager to reach your destination.
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Post by: Best Loser on May 13, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
And Ken & Gerard  :'(
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 13, 2012, 10:54:04 PM
I would love a final leg where all teams had to use local public transportation.

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Post by: Katarzyna on May 13, 2012, 11:12:45 PM
I prefer taxis or public tranpos. It adds more excitement & unpredictability to the finale. Self driving is too straight forward for me.
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Post by: Dom on May 14, 2012, 01:36:59 AM
Imagine trying to keep teams under the speed limit in the final leg!
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Post by: starrynight on May 14, 2012, 02:31:39 AM
No way is self driving straightforward, teams have easily got lost in the past as has been shown many times in seasons where they drove more.  There should be more self driving in the race in general.  They have a cameraman with them, if they go over the speed limit or go through red lights they can get an on the spot time penalty.  And certainly no excuse not to use public transport more.
 
And the idea that taxis are always safe isn't that true anyway.  There have been some daredevil taxi drivers in the past.
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: DrRox on May 14, 2012, 02:12:46 PM
What most fail to realize, The Amazing Race is first of all, a business/commerical venture to produce entertainment for television. As such, it must carry liability insurance for the people involved. The cost to provide insurance if teams were driving cars in the finale for a million dollars would be prohibitive to production. It is not about just running red lights and speeding....it about what it would cost if some brain dead racers actually killed an innocent bystander on the way to the one million............it aint never gonna happen........unless the finale is in the middle of the Sahara or some place similiar......
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: Declive on May 14, 2012, 02:16:07 PM
Yeah , but taxi catch is LUCK . You may pick a good taxi driver or a really bad one.

Luck should not be part of the final leg...
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: DrRox on May 14, 2012, 02:30:37 PM
Whether you like it or not.......LUCK is always a part of the race........up until a team steps upon the mat and Phil declares them the winner........all kinds of luck. It has always been a part of the race. TAR1 was one by taxi luck in the finale.
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Post by: SuperTux on May 14, 2012, 07:50:46 PM
What do you think of this: all teams have to run on foot in the final leg.
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Post by: redskevin88 on May 14, 2012, 08:02:49 PM
What most fail to realize, The Amazing Race is first of all, a business/commerical venture to produce entertainment for television. As such, it must carry liability insurance for the people involved. The cost to provide insurance if teams were driving cars in the finale for a million dollars would be prohibitive to production. It is not about just running red lights and speeding....it about what it would cost if some brain dead racers actually killed an innocent bystander on the way to the one million............it aint never gonna happen........unless the finale is in the middle of the Sahara or some place similiar......


The finale of the first Australian season had self driving...
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: Katarzyna on May 14, 2012, 08:46:02 PM
What do you think of this: all teams have to run on foot in the final leg.

They could do a leg with that. There's a city in Nepal, close to Kathmandu, which does not allow any kind of vehicle. So walking is the only way to go around.
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Post by: scruffs on May 14, 2012, 09:07:21 PM
What do you think of this: all teams have to run on foot in the final leg.

They could do a leg with that. There's a city in Nepal, close to Kathmandu, which does not allow any kind of vehicle. So walking is the only way to go around.

Only problem is I doubt a finale will be held in Nepal.
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: Katarzyna on May 14, 2012, 09:11:31 PM
What do you think of this: all teams have to run on foot in the final leg.

They could do a leg with that. There's a city in Nepal, close to Kathmandu, which does not allow any kind of vehicle. So walking is the only way to go around.

Only problem is I doubt a finale will be held in Nepal.

I said, they can do a leg. Not a finale.
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: Mug Costanza on May 14, 2012, 09:38:46 PM
The finale of TAR2 had a LOT of running. Between searching for clues in San Francisco and the epic run to the finish line, Chris & Alex and Tara & Wil had a lot of long footraces all throughout that finale.
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: apskip on May 15, 2012, 07:37:08 AM
Every time when i watch a final leg i think :

WHY GOD , WHY THEY STILL LET TAXIS BECOME PART OF THE FINAL LEG??????????????????????????????

Don't you guys think is unfair? Like , Gary and Mallory , Jaime and Cara , Jeremy and Sandy (i think) , Jill and Thomas ( i think) , Art and JJ...
They all could have won if wasn't their taxis!!!

Declive,

I had said it before, but I cannot remember on which thread and when: The reason that self-driving is not allowed in the design of the finale by World Race Productions is simply safety. Unlike situations in various Amazing Race Australias and other Asian Amazing Races, the finish of a U.S. Amazing Race almost always (only exceptions AR7, AR8, AR18) involved at least 4 time zones (and typically many more) and 3,000 miles (and typically much longer). The fatigue factor from the race means that teams would be at risk self-driving.   
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: starrynight on May 16, 2012, 02:44:38 AM
Yeah , but taxi catch is LUCK . You may pick a good taxi driver or a really bad one.

Luck should not be part of the final leg...

Bad sometimes meaning crooked.  I don't see why they don't check which taxi drivers they use beforehand as well, to make sure they aren't just there to swindle money out of racers.
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on May 16, 2012, 09:10:19 AM
I love the structure of the race as it is!!!

I think that people would go all roadrage on a leg, where they could become millionaires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: starrynight on May 16, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
I'm sure some of them go roadrage on some of the taxi drivers and want to punch their face in, in fact I think someone said that once.  It will happen if it hasn't happened yet.  Absolutely no excuse to give racers useless or just plain crooked taxi drivers, and there is no way that should be loved in the race.
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Post by: coolio on May 16, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
I'm sure some of them go roadrage on some of the taxi drivers and want to punch their face in, in fact I think someone said that once.  It will happen if it hasn't happened yet.  Absolutely no excuse to give racers useless or just plain crooked taxi drivers, and there is no way that should be loved in the race.
But that's the Race! It's LUCK. The final leg is just like any other leg.
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: starrynight on May 22, 2012, 02:20:09 AM
There's enough luck in the race already.  Looking at season 16 I see we have another taxi driver depriving us of one of the teams making it a close finish.  Ultimately most of the audience want to see it close at the end and taxi drivers have helped prevent that.  They should use public transport in the final leg for longer distances. 
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: Jimmer on May 22, 2012, 07:15:48 AM
I would like to see more public transportation over taxis or self driving. You still have luck based on schedules and timing yet you do not leave the luck in the hands of a taxi driver.
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: Prophet on May 22, 2012, 01:00:27 PM
I have to agree with Apskip; it's too dangerous for TPTB to allow possibly tired and definitely determined people to race across the streets of America in pursuit of a million dollars. :lol: I dislike random taxis as well, which why I have proposed in the past that TPTB should hire three competent drivers who know what they're talking about to drive teams around for the entire leg.
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Post by: bcp19 on May 22, 2012, 01:03:30 PM
I have to agree with Apskip; it's too dangerous for TPTB to allow possibly tired and definitely determined people to race across the streets of America in pursuit of a million dollars. :lol: I dislike random taxis as well, which why I have proposed in the past that TPTB should hire three competent drivers who know what they're talking about to drive teams around for the entire leg.
Give each team a map and let them direct the drivers how to get there.  It would be the same as if they drove, but safer.
Title: Re: Self Driving in Final Leg.
Post by: starrynight on May 22, 2012, 01:52:39 PM
I have to agree with Apskip; it's too dangerous for TPTB to allow possibly tired and definitely determined people to race across the streets of America in pursuit of a million dollars. :lol: I dislike random taxis as well, which why I have proposed in the past that TPTB should hire three competent drivers who know what they're talking about to drive teams around for the entire leg.
Give each team a map and let them direct the drivers how to get there.  It would be the same as if they drove, but safer.

Excellent idea, navigation skills should be an essential part of the race.  They could actually do that in most places, except maybe where the script is wildly different like in China or Japan. 

I still think they could use public transport more on the race too.  Go to some places that have an excellent public transport system.  It can create a lot of drama having to catch a bus or train before it leaves, also there would probably be more interaction with local people.  And as public transport will probably play a bigger role in transportation systems in the future it would be forward thinking.
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Post by: Prophet on May 22, 2012, 02:09:53 PM
And as public transport will probably play a bigger role in transportation systems in the future it would be forward thinking.

I hope not... :lol: