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Title: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2012, 09:06:10 AM
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Name: Dave Brown Jr.
Age: 33
Hometown: Madison, Wis.
Connection to your teammate: Married
Current occupation: U.S. Army Officer

Describe what you do: I have served in a variety of capacities as an officer for the Wisconsin Army National Guard including Blackhawk Helicopter Pilot, Military Intelligence Officer, and Assistant Professor of Military Science for the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
How will these skills help you win The Race? The obvious response would be the ability to cope and manage excessive stressors, and physical fitness due to the nature of the More... (http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/cast/81474/#)challenges. But persistence and attention to detail seem to be the attributes most essential for success.
Three words to describe you: Motivated, resourceful and aggressive.
Favorite hobbies: Socializing, boating, fitness and traveling.
What famous person reminds you of yourself? Bill Clinton – we share a common affinity for music, politics, academics and socializing.
What famous person reminds you of your teammate? Marilyn Monroe – being vivacious, beautiful and the center of attention. 
What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? Having graduated from undergraduate studies in three years while being a young father (unexpectedly), a full-time employee and serving in the National Guard.
What scares you most about traveling? Being disoriented in an unfamiliar environment without knowing the language.
What excites you most about traveling? Experiencing foreign cultures and “once-in-a-lifetime” experiences.
Pet peeve about your teammate: Rachel is a persistent optimist which, for a realist can be annoying and overwhelming. 
What country and place would you most like to visit and why? Russia, due to the historical significance of the Cold War and prevalence of vodka!
What do you hope to accomplish by running The Race (other than winning one million bucks)? Travel, communication and competition. Traveling to exotic locations while honing our communication skills and improving upon our relationship.

Name: Rachel Brown
Age: 30
Hometown: Madison, Wis.
Connection to your teammate: Married
Current occupation: Project Manager

Describe what you do: I manage healthcare software implementations in hospitals and clinics. You probably grew up with paper charts and I am helping replace them, and other electronic medical records, with our software.
How will these skills help you win The Race? I work with and manage many different people and personalities, and I have a “do what it takes” approach to work and life.
Three words to describe you: Optimistic, driven and outgoing.
Favorite hobbies: Dancing, traveling and intramural sports—volleyball, softball, kickball.
What famous person reminds you of yourself? Ryan Seacrest—I know he’s a guy, but we both get along with everyone and we are very driven, hard-working people.
What famous person reminds you of your teammate? JFK Jr. because he is smart, ***y, witty, likeable and politically savvy. 
What is the accomplishment you are most proud of? I’m proud of myself for always being up for trying anything. Life is short and I want to experience as much as I possibly can.
What scares you most about traveling? Nothing scares me when I travel. I dread hotels without elevators when I’m packing heavy, though.
What excites you most about traveling? I love to travel! I love experiencing different cultures…people, history, food, animals and shops.
Biggest challenge you and your teammate will face on The Race together? Neither of us likes to be wrong and we are very competitive with each other. I would like to work on being a team and taking each other’s advice.
Pet peeve about your teammate: He’s insanely anal…obsessive-compulsive anal. Things always have to be neat, clean and exactly how he wants them.
What country and place would you most like to visit and why? Bora Bora, Tahiti—I’ve seen pictures and it looks amazing. I would love to stay in one of those huts in the ocean.
What do you hope to accomplish by running The Race (other than winning one million bucks)? I hope to reconnect with Dave. Being away from my husband for a year, with a lack of regular communication and having nothing in common due to our environments was way more difficult than I ever thought it would be.

 
http://www.youtube.com/v/lAqeeamRbrQ?version=3&hl
Title: Re: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Married*
Post by: Theo on January 25, 2012, 09:09:39 AM
I am getting Final 3 vibe from this team!!! :hearts: They will be one of my favorites in this season.

Go! Dave & Rachel!
Title: Re: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Married*
Post by: Prophet on January 25, 2012, 09:10:06 AM
<3333333333333333 this team :hearts:
Title: Re: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Married*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 25, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
<3333333333333333 this team :hearts:
Title: Re: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Married*
Post by: addie on January 25, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
<3333333333333333 this team :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Polaroid on January 25, 2012, 11:44:36 AM
Their picture reminded me of Ken & Tina.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: redskevin88 on January 25, 2012, 06:15:36 PM
Not another Ron & Kelly!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: balfour on January 25, 2012, 11:48:37 PM
Not another Ron & Kelly!

I sure hope not. But the big difference is that Ron and Kelly were only dating for a little bit, and Dave and Rachel are married. It even sounds like the have a kid. But that talk about about "reintegration". ....

I really like this two though. I hope they go far.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: eragon on January 26, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
Their picture reminded me of Ken & Tina.

Me too!

Is this TAR: Look-alike Edition?  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Hopeaboveall on January 26, 2012, 07:27:10 PM
These two seem very focused and have the brains and brawn to back it up. Final 3 .... Easily.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Flamant on January 27, 2012, 05:04:49 PM
Is it me or Rachel looks a bit (a bit) like Rachel??

Anyway I like them more than Brenchel :res:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: LoveRocked on January 27, 2012, 06:42:18 PM
<3333333333333333 this team :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: carlsbad_bolt_Fan on January 27, 2012, 10:58:28 PM
Nice couple & they seem focused. But I never bought into the whole "the race will strengthen our relationship" stuff, which is what they ultimately seem to be saying.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: theamazingracer21 on February 02, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
They seam like a nice team that have a good chance of making it to the end.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 02, 2012, 07:56:44 PM

Guard member, wife to compete in 'amazing race'
By: The Associated Press | 01/29/12 5:01 AM
The Associated Press
.A Wisconsin Army National Guard officer and his wife will compete in the latest installment of the CBS series "The Amazing Race."

Dave and Rachel Brown will be one of the 11 couples competing against each other in a trek around the world for $1 million. The show pits teams against physical and mental challenges.

Maj. Brown says 16 years of service in the Wisconsin guard and a recent deployment to Iraq should help him with the challenge. He's currently assigned to the ROTC detachment at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Rachel pitched the idea of applying for the show when the couple recently visited Sydney, Australia.

Maj. Brown has served as a military intelligence officer and a Black Hawk pilot. The 20th season of the reality show premieres Sunday, Feb. 19.



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/entertainment/2012/01/guard-member-wife-compete-amazing-race/2147096#ixzz1lHPShkFb
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Katarzyna on February 02, 2012, 11:41:37 PM
I love her. She's adorable.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Wisconsin National Guard member to compete in upcoming CBS hit series 'The Amazing Race'
January 26, 2012
Tech. Sgt. Jon LaDue
Wisconsin National Guard

For some fans of CBS's "The Amazing Race," deciding which couple to cheer for may be a little easier when the 20th season of the hit series premieres Sunday, Feb. 19 - especially for Wisconsin citizens and patriotic viewers across the country.

Madison native Maj. Dave Brown, Jr., an officer in the Wisconsin Army National Guard, and his wife, Rachel, will be one of 11 couples competing against each other in a trek around the world for the ultimate prize of supreme bragging rights and one million dollars.

"Both Rachel and I have been avid fans of the show for quite some time," Dave said.

The reality show, which has garnered eight Emmy Awards, will pit the teams against many physical and mental challenges over the course of about 25 days.

Although viewers will have to "stay tuned" to see how the couple fairs in the show, Dave does credit his 16 years of service in the Wisconsin Army National Guard - including a recent year-long deployment to Iraq - for his preparation and execution throughout the challenge.

"I truly feel my involvement in the military best prepared me for a competition such as 'The Amazing Race,'" he said, "whether it be attention to detail, leadership style and abilities, or who I am as a person."

When asked how the Race equates to military training, Dave associated the two in three ways.

"It's as physically demanding as air assault school, as mentally draining and as academically involved as flight school, and as sleep depriving as SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape) school," he said.

The major enlisted into the Arizona National Guard in 1996 as an artillery forward observer while attending Arizona State University. He graduated in three years with a bachelors in Political Science. He then transferred to the Wisconsin Guard's 32nd Infantry Brigade Combat Team in 2000 and earned an officer commission in 2002. Dave has also served as a military intelligence officer, a Black Hawk pilot with the 1st Battalion, 147th Aviation Regiment, and an executive officer for Recruiting and Retention Command. He is currently assigned to the ROTC detachment at the University of Wisconsin-Madison as an assistant professor of military science.

During his allotted two-week rest and relaxation leave from his deployment to Iraq, Dave visited with his wife in Sydney, Australia. Rachel took that opportunity to pitch the idea of applying for the show. They agreed, filled out the applications and she mailed them in as soon as she returned to their home in Madison.


Maj. Dave Brown, Jr., and his wife, Rachel, are set to compete in the CBS reality series "The Amazing Race" which premieres Feb. 19.


The cast of the CBS hit series "The Amazing Race" in its 20th season - which premieres Feb. 19. 
"Within a matter of a week or two, casting contacted her and requested a video," Dave said.
A fellow Soldier took a one-minute video at the end of one of Dave's flying mission in Iraq. It wasn't the fanciest audition video, but it got the job done. Rachel compiled the video with one of her own and sent it in. Dave returned from deployment in June 2011. He and Rachel had interviews with CBS and the show began filming in the fall.

The rest of the story is yet to be seen.

Growing up, Dave was an avid wrestler and participated in basketball, football, baseball and track where he gained an appreciation for competing, something he shares today - along with his wife.

"I not only strive for victory, but I expect it for myself," Dave said. "I am competitive in all aspects of my life, whether it be personally or professionally. That's one aspect that interested both Rachel and I, both being competitive and people who are in constant pursuit of a challenge."

There wasn't much time to train for the competition. Dave added some weight, in the form of a ruck sack, to his normal physical training. As a couple, Dave and Rachel watched and discussed episodes and specific challenges like they'd done periodically on Sundays since they met.

"While viewing previous seasons we talked through specific challenges in more detail in consideration of our individual strengths and weaknesses," he said.

Whether Dave and Rachel are the first couple to arrive at the final checkpoint or not, it's sure to have been the adventure of a lifetime. And according to Dave, it also seems as if there was no lack of effort or motivation for them to compete.

"I truly felt that I was not only representing myself, my spouse and my son, but I was also cognizant of being a representative of the Wisconsin National Guard and the Army as a whole," Dave said. "The overwhelming pride of representing the men and women of the military in the best light possible ... that was definitely in the forefront of our minds."

http://dma.wi.gov/dma/news/2012news/12015.asp (http://dma.wi.gov/dma/news/2012news/12015.asp)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on February 07, 2012, 11:18:38 AM
Meghan and Cheyne vibes. They look like they're going to be all ready to kick some ass.

Not one of my favourites currently now (may be too focused on the race rather than on the fun aspect of it) but I don't think I'll hate them either.

UNLESS, they turn out to be another Jonathan and Victoria.

But I didn't get good vibes from Kelly and Jon too but they were a hell lot of fun to watch on TAR 4. Hopefully this team too!

At least F6 for them and... I won't be surprise if they are in the F3. However, they just don't have the winner looks for me.. and I'm guessing they might miss the F3. Just a prediction.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2012, 09:26:04 AM
Couple with UW ties competes on “The Amazing Race”
Feb. 16, 2012
by Käri Knutson

It’s one thing to strategize from the comfort of your living room while watching hit reality show “The Amazing Race.” It’s quite another to be among the globe-trotting contestants.



 

Rachel and Dave Brown compete in the new season of "The Amazing Race" on CBS. (Photo: CBS)
Major Dave Brown Jr., an assistant professor of military science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and his wife, Rachel, will be among 11 couples competing on the 20th season of the show, which premieres at 7 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 19 on CBS.

“The anonymity of a name like ‘Dave Brown’ is no longer,” says Brown.

Rachel, a UW-Madison graduate who works at Epic Systems in Verona, had the idea to be on the show. Both have been long-time fans and are adventurous by nature.

Dave, 33, had been deployed to Iraq but had a two-week rest and relaxation leave where he and Rachel, 30, met up in Australia. That’s when she pitched the idea. They filled out the application and crossed their fingers.

“I didn’t have the slightest idea,” Brown says about whether they’d be picked.

The show has won eight Emmy Awards and pits teams against many physical and mental challenges over the course of 25 days.

“I’m very happy that not only we had this opportunity but the opportunity to represent military members,” Dave says. “The overwhelming pride of representing the men and women of the military in the best possible light … that was definitely in the forefront of our minds.”

Dave, a West Salem, Wis., native, enlisted into the Arizona National Guard in 1996 as an artillery forward observer while attending Arizona State University.

He graduated in three years with a bachelor’s degree in political science, transferred into the Wisconsin Guard’s 32nd Infantry Brigade Combat Team in 2000 and earned an officer commission in 2002.

He’s also served as an intelligence officer, a Black Hawk pilot with the 1st Battalion, 147th Aviation Regiment and an executive officer for Recruiting and Retention Command. He is currently assigned to the ROTC detachment at UW as an assistant professor of military science.

While “The Amazing Race” presents numerous physical and mental challenges, Dave believes the biggest component is teamwork.

“The icing on the cake is the travel – the challenge is the interaction and relationship between two people,” Dave says.

Being in the military has Dave and Rachel have had to do many things apart which made the experience of doing the show together all the more meaningful.

“The stress of not only military training but deployment really prepared me,” Dave says.

They can’t say whether they won the $1 million prize but are inviting people to watch the show with them at Madison’s, 119 King St. The party starts at 5:30 p.m.

They’ll have lots of people rooting them on.

“I was extremely excited for them to have such a tremendous opportunity to participate in this unique and challenging experience,” says Lt. Col. Jay Pitz, a professor of military science at the UW. 

Pitz says Dave’s experience in the military will be a huge asset.

“As an Army officer, he has already experienced a multitude of challenges during his distinguished career,” Pitz says. “The leadership attributes that he has developed throughout a career of vast experiences as an Aviation officer and a combat veteran will have prepared him for the unique challenges that may be encountered during the program.”

Dave returned from deployment in June 2011. He and Rachel flew out to Los Angeles to audition but they didn’t find out until four weeks before taping began last fall that they’d been chosen.

 “We were left in considerable suspense,” Dave says.

They were put through a rigorous process of testing.

“It’s as physically demanding as air assault school, as mentally draining and as academically involved as flight school and as sleep depriving as SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape) School,” Dave says.

Dave and Rachel have had to be pretty secretive throughout the whole process. Mum is the only word about the outcome of the show.

Stay tuned to see how the Browns do. “The Amazing Race” airs at 7 p.m. Sundays on CBS.

http://www.news.wisc.edu/20335
Title: INTERVIEW WITH DAVE BROWN AND WIFE
Post by: dpe on February 16, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FROM LOCAL TV NEWS.

http://video.channel3000.com/watch.php?id=40230

I wonder if the penalty for reveling the results is really 10 million?

The place where she works is a medical records software company.
Title: Re: INTERVIEW WITH DAVE BROWN AND WIFE
Post by: Prophet on February 16, 2012, 05:14:25 PM
Thanks for the video! Some interesting stuff in there. What are they talking about, 40 page applications?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on February 16, 2012, 10:44:26 PM
This is probably my favorite team from just having watched these videos.

However, I guarantee that just like Marcus' in-race interviews had him compare the Race to the NFL, a lot of Dave's will relate the Race to the military. :lol:
Title: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown- More local media
Post by: dpe on February 17, 2012, 08:53:41 AM

Dave and Rachel Brown have never been shy about going after what they wanted. Dave recalls the night the Madison couple met at Wando’s, where his future wife took a forthright approach to getting his attention.

“She had the audacity, and the alcohol, to approach me and say I was hot, which I was astonished by,” Dave said.

That drive will likely serve them both well as contestants on CBS’ hit reality show “The Amazing Race,” which kicks off its 20th season at 7 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 19. The Browns are one of 11 pairs criss-crossing the globe completing challenges, with a $1 million prize awaiting the winning team.

But the Browns bring much more to the challenge than their chutzpah. Dave, 33, is a 16-year military veteran, a Blackhawk helicopter pilot who spent 12 years in the Wisconsin National Guard’s 1st Battalion, 147th Aviation Regiment. Shortly before returning home last summer and competing in “The Amazing Race,” he was on a tour of duty in Iraq as an intelligence officer for an aviation task force.

And Rachel, 30, works for Epic Systems, the Verona-based health care software company, in a position that requires her to travel every week or two. Anyone who watches the CBS show knows that being able to negotiate travel obstacles is a prized skill for a team.

Dave said he and Rachel were fans of the show before they met, and as a couple have spent many Sunday nights on the couch watching the show. But they watched it more intently than other couples.

“We would actually look at it from the vantage point of being competitors ourselves, identifying individual strengths and weaknesses that our team might possess, and how that might contribute to successes on the Race,” he said.

While her husband was deployed in Iraq, Rachel came across an announcement online seeking contestants for the series’ 20th competition. Over beers while on vacation together in Australia during one of Dave’s R&R breaks, they filled out the application together.

The thought was that, after a year apart, competing on the show would be a great way to reunite as a couple.

“Naively enough, I think both Rachel and I thought it would be an excellent opportunity to reconnect,” Dave said. “From Rachel and I’s vantage point, even just spending quality time with one another, or time in general, has been a challenge in and of itself. Rachel, working for Epic Systems, travels quite frequently if not every week for three or four days, certainly every other week. And I travel less frequently, but of course, for greater durations of time with deployments.

“We were just eager and excited for the opportunity to spend 30-plus days of time together.”

Dave and Rachel went into the Race thinking they would be serious contenders, and Dave stated confidently on a promotional video on the CBS website that he didn’t think any of the other teams could beat them. Only they could defeat themselves if they didn’t work optimally as a team, he added.

“Both Rachel and myself are hyper-competitive people,” he said. “I would say that for me, my tenancity, my resourcefulness, decisiveness and even common sense definitely contributed to my involvement on the race. From a military perspective — my attention to detail, mental and physical preparedness.”

He said he thought the different mindsets he and his wife brought to the Race made them a good team.

“Rachel definitely possesses a dramatically different mentality,” Dave said. “She is very much an optimist, whereas I am a realist. So we balance each other in that respect.”

Dave said that the greatest pressure he felt during the Race wasn’t necessarily getting from Point A to Point B first, or finishing the various challenges quickly. It was knowing that the couple, dubbed “Team Army” on the show, was standing in for so many military couples in America who have had to deal with deployments overseas.

“To represent the men and women of the armed forces, and from Rachel’s perspective, to represent the spouses left behind, was truly an honor and a privilege for us both,” Dave said. “The greatest stresser from my persepctive was not the race or the competition. It was the self-induced stress of performing optimally on behalf of our military. It’s really an underrepresented profession in reality TV.”

Now, the stress of the competition is over, although Dave and Rachel are forbidden to talk about what happens on the show before it airs. They’ll be down at Madison’s on King Street on Sunday night, watching it unfold the same as every other “Amazing Race” fan.

“In some respects, being a military intelligence officer and having been in possession of some classified type information, retaining information is second nature,” Dave said. “But something that you’re truly excited about — being on the show — it has been difficult to harness.”



http://host.madison.com/entertainment/television/madison-couple-at-the-starting-line-for-amazing-race/article_f734495f-9897-5ad2-a3e0-3592eeeaacc4.html
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown More local media
Post by: dpe on February 19, 2012, 09:56:24 AM

Last summer in Los Angeles, Madison residents Dave and Rachel Brown were subjected to a number of psychological and physical screenings and exams, one of which was the famous IQ — intelligence quotient — test.

Neither Dave, 33, nor his wife, Rachel, 30, had ever taken an IQ test. But they hoped to be chosen as contestants on the hit CBS show, "The Amazing Race," and the tests were part of the deal.

After the IQ test, Rachel asked for the results.

The examiner said, "Are you sure you want to know?"

"When I heard that," Dave said recently, "I knew I wanted to know."

No doubt that kind of competitiveness and feisty good humor is part of why the Browns ultimately were selected to be contestants on "Race," the eight-time Emmy Award-winning reality show that begins its 20th season Sunday night on CBS.

It also probably didn't hurt that they look like movie stars.

Of course, they aren't film idols. Dave, originally from the La Crosse area, is with the Wisconsin Army National Guard, having served in a number of capacities including as a Black Hawk helicopter pilot, military intelligence officer, and currently as assistant professor of military science with the ROTC detachment at UW-Madison.

Rachel, who grew up near the Twin Cities and came to Madison to attend UW, is a project manager for Epic in Verona. She was traveling last week and not able to participate in my interview with Dave, which had to be conducted over the phone so a CBS representative could listen in.

The network appears to live in mortal fear that a contestant on the show will slip and reveal a location or result from the new season — which was shot in the fall — before it airs. Eleven couples are in the competition that takes them around the world in about 25 days and brings a prize of $1 million to the winners.

CBS didn't have to worry about Dave Brown, who was smooth as could be — friendly and funny — during our chat.

After growing up near La Crosse, Brown moved with his mother to Phoenix, where he attended high school and then Arizona State University. He enrolled in the Arizona National Guard in 1996, transferring to the Wisconsin Guard, and Madison, in 2000.

Dave said he and Rachel met in Wando's on University Avenue in 2006. They married in August 2009. Both were fans of "Amazing Race" before they met.

"Then as a couple we watched more intently," he said.

Like a lot of viewers, they speculated what it might be like to be contestants.

But they never acted on it until Dave was sent to Iraq in 2010. The forced separation — abetted by a general lack of communication technology from Iraq and the secrecy requirements of Dave's work with military intelligence — took a toll.

Dave and Rachel were able to reunite in Australia in February 2011 when Dave got two weeks' rest and relaxation from Iraq. Just before that, Rachel sent Dave a note saying a fun way for them to reconnect might be to apply for "Amazing Race."

Dave wasn't sure she was serious, but once they were in Sydney, Rachel pulled out a thick sheaf of papers that turned out to be the application. In between surfing lessons and romantic dinners, they filled it out.

Rachel mailed the application from Madison and before long, word arrived that the "Race" casting department was interested enough to want a video of the couple. Dave, however, was back in Iraq. He got his flight crew chief to tape him with their plane in the background.

Dave's overseas deployment ended in June, and not long after, he and Rachel were flown to California with other potential contestants for interviews with the "Race" host and creators as well as testing to predict how well they might handle the show's physical and mental challenges.

Clearly, they tested well. Dave and Rachel plan to watch Sunday night's first episode at Madison's on King Street, where they will host an informal party for anyone who wants to share in the fun, starting at 5:30.

And what of that IQ test?

"Apparently I beat her by two points," Dave said.

I suspect Rachel might suggest that's well within the margin of error.


http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/doug_moe/doug-moe-amazing-trip-to-the-start-of-amazing-race/article_f9ceccf8-5b0b-11e1-8fb9-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1mqMgSXfX
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on February 19, 2012, 11:03:35 PM
I am *almost* certain they will be a F3 team. :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Reilly Queens on February 20, 2012, 03:14:52 AM
They're meh to me. I don't know why everyone has gone crazy over them.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Aussie on February 20, 2012, 03:16:20 AM
They're meh to me. I don't know why everyone has gone crazy over them.

IKR.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on February 20, 2012, 07:26:11 AM
I haven't gone crazy over them. I think they will freak out with one another soon. Aka MoJo style. -_-
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on February 20, 2012, 07:28:04 AM
I'm just glad they won the EP ;D
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 20, 2012, 07:31:12 AM
I'm just glad they won the EP ;D

Me too! :hearts:

I don't mind if they turn out to be a bickering couple or not, considering Jonathan & Victoria are one of my all-time favourites :lol: and Flo & Zach are my #1 all-time team :lol: , but I do think they will be an interesting couple to watch! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on February 20, 2012, 07:31:32 AM
I'm just glad they won the EP ;D

And not Brendon and Rachel. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on February 20, 2012, 07:34:01 AM
I think we already have Red Rachel and White Rachel Camps :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 20, 2012, 08:01:11 AM
I think we already have Red Rachel and White Rachel Camps :lol:

Well then, I'm in Camp White Rachel for sure, although I liked Brenchel after the premiere too! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on February 20, 2012, 02:15:48 PM
They're meh to me. I don't know why everyone has gone crazy over them.

IKR.

Because they seem like real, genuine people. They aren't mactors or in the public eye.

Kris & Jon were "meh" for me, but from what I gather here on RFF, they're one of the most popular teams ever. To each his own!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Reilly Queens on February 24, 2012, 02:04:01 PM
They're meh to me. I don't know why everyone has gone crazy over them.

IKR.

Because they seem like real, genuine people. They aren't mactors or in the public eye.

Kris & Jon were "meh" for me, but from what I gather here on RFF, they're one of the most popular teams ever. To each his own!

I LOVED Kris & Jon, since they argued very little and were a strong team. Don't get me wrong I love Dave and the army <3 but Rachel doesn't really do anything to me, seems like a BG character, like some teams have 1 OTT person and an UTR partner. They might grow on me, but I'm skeptical on them for now.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on February 25, 2012, 01:10:41 AM
They're meh to me. I don't know why everyone has gone crazy over them.

IKR.

Because they seem like real, genuine people. They aren't mactors or in the public eye.

Kris & Jon were "meh" for me, but from what I gather here on RFF, they're one of the most popular teams ever. To each his own!

I LOVED Kris & Jon, since they argued very little and were a strong team. Don't get me wrong I love Dave and the army <3 but Rachel doesn't really do anything to me, seems like a BG character, like some teams have 1 OTT person and an UTR partner. They might grow on me, but I'm skeptical on them for now.

I think that's exactly how I felt about Jeremy & Sandy last season, and they ended up being my favorite team.  :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on February 25, 2012, 05:45:03 AM
Who's Jeremy and Sandy? They were so forgettable. :lol:

I bet Dave and Rachel will be overshadowed by Brendon and Rachel. Just like how Ron and Kelly were overshadowed by Rob and Amber? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Katarzyna on February 26, 2012, 12:06:04 AM
They seem robotic to me. I wanna see them loosen up.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Flamant on February 28, 2012, 01:05:00 PM
They better not dominate :cmas28
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Declive on February 28, 2012, 08:50:07 PM
They better not dominate :cmas28

Yeah,i hope leg 3 has a different winner
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on February 29, 2012, 12:04:39 AM
They better not dominate :cmas28

Yeah,i hope leg 3 has a different winner

I hope Leg 3 has a different winner... because of the alleged "Leg 3 Curse". :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: ZouLy on February 29, 2012, 12:53:55 AM
<333 rachel's voice...
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on February 29, 2012, 06:45:28 AM
They better not dominate :cmas28

Yeah,i hope leg 3 has a different winner

I hope Leg 3 has a different winner... because of the alleged "Leg 3 Curse". :lol:

That's what I was thinking. (You've changed our lives Supertux) :lol: Crossing my fingers for Brenchel.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on March 01, 2012, 01:20:07 AM
BRENCHEL PLEASE WIN LEG 3!

DAVE AND RACHEL DON'T WIN NEXT LEG!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: David on March 06, 2012, 11:02:26 AM
Definitely, I don't really understand this.

So, these two have not completed the Detour nor the Roadblock and still get a 6th place. Some teams are SO lucky that it shouldn't be fair...
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
It was a "first" but nothing unfair about it. Lucky, yes.

Skip the Detour by using the Express Pass, perfectly fair.

Unable to do the RB>>take the penalty given>> still make it to the MAT ahead of other teams...perfectly fair, and yes, VERY lucky for them that they had that cushion of being on the first flight AND also have other teams struggle more than they did.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on March 06, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
There's no way they would've known this, but if they didn't use the Express Pass and stuck with their Detour, then had to deal with a 2-hour penalty at the Roadblock, there's a chance they may have been eliminated. (I say "may" because I don't know how long they would have take with the harp or what time Vanessa & Ralph and Elliot & Andrew checked in to the Pit Stop.) So although it sucks to have to use the Express Pass so early, it might have turned out to be what kept them in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: TAR Fanatic on March 07, 2012, 11:54:31 PM
I'm getting vibes from Dave that nothing less than 1st is acceptable. As soon as Art/JJ finished the watermelon detour, that Express Pass was burning a hole in his pocket. Rachel talked him into trying the harp task first but he wouldn't even entertain it once he saw other teams there. If they had completed the harp task then they could have used the Express Pass to skip the bottle dancing when they only had 1 bottle left and not incurred a 2 hr penalty. At this point in the race, middle of the pack should have been acceptable to them.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 08, 2012, 01:00:38 AM
I'm getting vibes from Dave that nothing less than 1st is acceptable.

I get that vibe from Art & JJ.

I personally think Dave is quite competitive, too, but not as ridiculously competitive as Art & JJ. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on March 14, 2012, 07:07:57 AM
Dave - "This leg was a complete and utter failure from my point. Rachel and I can only improve from this point."

yeah, this really was a disastrous leg for you guys with a 2ND PLACE FINISH!

Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: apskip on March 14, 2012, 07:13:51 AM
kevint2010,


It is fine for you to root for Mark and Bopper, but do you have to do it Rachel and David's thread? You should know how inappropriate that it. Please change your post here into nvm or anything equivalent and place the deleted post into the Mark and Bopper thread where it belongs.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on March 14, 2012, 07:28:13 AM
kevint2010,


It is fine for you to root for Mark and Bopper, but do you have to do it Rachel and David's thread? You should know how inappropriate that it. Please change your post here into nvm or anything equivalent and place the deleted post into the Mark and Bopper thread where it belongs.

firstly, while I am rooting for Mark and Bopper, I didn't write anything that roots for them in this thread. The "Mark and Bopper for the win!" is a underquote that appears in every single one of my posts. Everyone on this site can have one, so don't tell me off for it. My post is about Dave and Rachel, not Mark and Bopper.

Secondly, this is a dave and rachel thread, but how in the world is this a "root" thread? the titles are just the team's name and descriptions. Not "hate" or "love", which is why people have posted "negative" comments about some teams in their thread. how is this "inappropriate"? Where do you want me to put this post? in "TAR Australia 2- Live Sightings!"?

Thirdly, I'm don't even dislike Dave and Rachel. I really like Rachel and while Dave's overcompetitiveness and hardheadness is annoying, I don't dislike him at all. I'm just pointing out his overcompetitiveness.

I'm sorry if you're unhappy with me voicing my opinions, but we can all get along, can't we?  :ghug:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: apskip on March 14, 2012, 07:39:23 AM
Kevin:

Yes we can and I apologize. I did not distinguish between your legitimate comments on Rachel and David and the tagline on Mark and Bopper. Any tagline is allowed anywhere, so the only person who did something wrong was me in criticizing you.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on March 14, 2012, 07:44:51 AM
Kevin:

Yes we can and I apologize. I did not distinguish between your legitimate comments on Rachel and David and the tagline on Mark and Bopper. Any tagline is allowed anywhere, so the only person who did something wrong was me in criticizing you.

no worries, it's just a classic case of misunderstandings. forgive and forget. :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on March 20, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
Their bickering seems to have a bitter undercurrent to it which makes it less entertaining to me than some of the other couples who can just seem silly and funny.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on March 20, 2012, 12:04:36 PM
Their bickering seems to have a bitter undercurrent to it which makes it less entertaining to me than some of the other couples who can just seem silly and funny.

They're probably less used to being on television than people who have nothing to do besides go on reality shows. :)

:bigwelcome to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: apskip on March 20, 2012, 02:22:41 PM
Prophet,

I think Brendon and Rachel and Vanessa and Ralph are giving Rachel and David pretty good competition for the "bitterest team" trophy.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on March 20, 2012, 02:25:50 PM
Prophet,

I think Brendon and Rachel and Vanessa and Ralph are giving Rachel and David pretty good competition for the "bitterest team" trophy.

Definitely not in the "most mature" category though :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on March 20, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
With the BB Rachel and Vanessa couples though there seems to be some affection and although they argue it never seems to last.  But with Dave and Rachel all I see is tension.  Of course it might just be a bad edit, but it doesn't really endear them to me.  The women are the stronger characters in all these groups it seems to me.

Their bickering seems to have a bitter undercurrent to it which makes it less entertaining to me than some of the other couples who can just seem silly and funny.

They're probably less used to being on television than people who have nothing to do besides go on reality shows. :)

:bigwelcome to RFF!

Thanks for the welcome.  I think going on reality tv shows sounds like quite a fun way to spend your time, so I don't begudge the likes of BB Rachel that.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: choroneko on March 20, 2012, 10:57:04 PM
I can sense Dave is a serious, smart, always focused man. He's kind of a perfectionist. I wonder how Rachel keeps up with him. He's too stern. I don't like stern people. :lol
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on March 21, 2012, 03:13:58 PM
She keeps up with him by not letting his uptight nature get to her. I think she's good for him. :lol: :tup:

Show content
I can relate to Dave because I get uptight very easily as well. :-[
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on March 26, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
They worked well together once again at the FF. I think their edit is improving. ;D I just hope the car curse doesn't come into play. :(
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 30, 2012, 09:16:07 AM
Quite impressed that Dave actually knew where Azerbaijan was located, unlike almost everyone else. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Topita on April 02, 2012, 12:34:16 PM
Quite impressed that Dave actually knew where Azerbaijan was located, unlike almost everyone else. :tup:
Well he was stationed in Iraq for quite a while wasn't he??
So it would make sense he knows this area better than others I think.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 05, 2012, 10:43:01 AM
No offense to the man and this may be just me

but...

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb454/kevint2011/creepysmile.jpg)

Dave has a creepy smile
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: David on April 05, 2012, 11:01:11 AM
It's not just you. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 05, 2012, 12:03:04 PM
It's not creepy to me :umn:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Aussie on April 05, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
He looks like an axolotl.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: apskip on April 05, 2012, 04:12:26 PM
Aussie,

Thank you for increasing my already considerable vocabulary. I had no clue what an axolotl is until you forced me to look it up. I am not going to spoil the suspense for others, who should look it up themselves if they want to know.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 05, 2012, 04:34:45 PM
Have any of you all ever done a long photoshoot?

 Their cheeks were probably quivering from the strain of smiling so long! :groan:

Moving on!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 05, 2012, 05:16:10 PM
Thank you Peach :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: ryanmissing27 on April 07, 2012, 05:48:19 AM
This team is making me find a greater appreciation for Ernie and Cindy, at least they lasted until leg 7 Malawi II before they became win obsessed and for good reason. E&C also maintained their express pass for longer and never used it out of necessity, not even out of perceived necessity, in fact I find Dave and Rachel's use to be one of the worst so far.
To their credit; however, I was impressed by Dave's knowledge of geography, specifically concerning Azerbaijan (he had me beat on that one and I'm a self confessed geography nerd :-[ ) and I found it hilarious when he was trying to convince Rachel that they should try the helicopter fast forward.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 09, 2012, 07:52:11 AM
When the plane is landing,

Rachel: "Uh oh! Natives!"

don't know if that's funny or offensive.

Oh well, still way better than the "breeding" comment from you-know-who from season 6
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: David on April 09, 2012, 07:55:54 AM
I don't like them at all. I prefer ART & JJ for sure, even though I'm tired of them winning each leg.

I just pray for the Kentucky, BB and Cops to be in the Final, please!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Theo on April 09, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
My love meter for this team is decreasing each leg. I'm pretty sure that my love meter will reach zero if they make it far :(
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 09, 2012, 10:49:38 AM
I think they're a well balanced couple and team :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Best Loser on April 09, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
I don't think their arguing is anything bad, because they never hold grudges after bickering. Would I think this is a good couple if this is how they acted in daily life? No, but normal life doesn't have you constantly running with little sleep and food.

I love how sarcastic Rachel is and how verbose Dave is.

Are these two a really strong team, or are they in a season with weak teams?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 09, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
I don't think their arguing is anything bad, because they never hold grudges after bickering. Would I think this is a good couple if this is how they acted in daily life? No, but normal life doesn't have you constantly running with little sleep and food.

I love how sarcastic Rachel is and how verbose Dave is.

I totally agree!

And by the way Art and JJ, you may not have wanted your wives to come with you but Dave finished the task faster with his. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on April 10, 2012, 07:39:30 AM
I just don't think their characters are that interesting, or their interaction with the other groups.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: supah on April 10, 2012, 08:30:08 PM
before the race, i told myself i was going to root for them, and despite all their bickering, i still think they are a great team  :conf:

GO DAVECHEL!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 16, 2012, 06:29:13 AM
Rachel - "I'm happy! He's being a sore loser!"

Oh rachel, I love you, you almost make up for Dave's douchiness  :-[
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 16, 2012, 06:30:30 AM
Rachel - "I'm happy! He's being a sore loser!"

Oh rachel, I love you, you almost make up for Dave's douchiness  :-[

She handles him so well. I love it :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 16, 2012, 08:02:18 AM
This is sort of a shaky theory, but it's been my observation that the winning team doesn't get bogged down in team feuds. They may fight with each other, but Eric and Danielle (the exception winner :lol:) are the only team I can think of that had major feuds with other teams throughout the Race and still won.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: AmazingRace on April 24, 2012, 09:18:17 PM
Dave: "I have skill and ability in nearly every sport." :whoop:
Rachel:  Thbbt!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: choroneko on April 24, 2012, 09:47:12 PM
This is sort of a shaky theory, but it's been my observation that the winning team doesn't get bogged down in team feuds. They may fight with each other, but Eric and Danielle (the exception winner :lol:) are the only team I can think of that had major feuds with other teams throughout the Race and still won.

Chip & Kim with Colin & Christie?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 25, 2012, 06:59:34 AM
This is sort of a shaky theory, but it's been my observation that the winning team doesn't get bogged down in team feuds. They may fight with each other, but Eric and Danielle (the exception winner :lol:) are the only team I can think of that had major feuds with other teams throughout the Race and still won.

Chip & Kim with Colin & Christie?

That's not a major feud. :lol: A major feud is Colin vs Mirna.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Best Loser on April 29, 2012, 08:44:16 PM
Come on! Set a record! 8 wins in a season, let's go!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: AmazingRace on April 29, 2012, 09:13:01 PM
They are a really strong team. But I wish Vanessa & Ralph kept their lead and won this leg, then Brenchel can win the remaining two.  :hides
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on April 29, 2012, 11:03:57 PM
Dave - "Babe, I don't need positive reinforcement right now"

Rachel, give him negative reinforcement. He demands it! (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on April 30, 2012, 07:52:53 AM
Dave - "Babe, I don't need positive reinforcement right now"

Rachel, give him negative reinforcement. He demands it! (:;)

He needs to chill :lol: but she handles him well :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: AmazingRace on May 01, 2012, 12:05:03 AM

He needs to chill :lol: but she handles him well :hearts:

Haha. Especially with that "Then why don't you shut the #$%^ up!" comment.  :meow:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on May 02, 2012, 05:31:18 AM
From episode 7

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb454/kevint2011/army.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 02, 2012, 06:35:17 AM

He needs to chill :lol: but she handles him well :hearts:

Haha. Especially with that "Then why don't you shut the #$%^ up!" comment.  :meow:

They have been leading up to that with his constant comments about needing silence :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: supah on May 04, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
In my personal opinion, I think Rachel is the best racer this season, she is strong, smart, and she puts up with Dave so well. I also think she is one of the strongest females on a MF team with a relationship. it would be really sad if they dont win :(
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 04, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
In my personal opinion, I think Rachel is the best racer this season, she is strong, smart, and she puts up with Dave so well. I also think she is one of the strongest females on a MF team with a relationship. it would be really sad if they dont win :(

:jam:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Saravannan on May 04, 2012, 08:43:41 PM
In my personal opinion, I think Rachel is the best racer this season, she is strong, smart, and she puts up with Dave so well. I also think she is one of the strongest females on a MF team with a relationship. it would be really sad if they dont win :(

:jam:

They definitely deserve the win; however, wouldn't Brenchel winning be so much more epic?   :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Best Loser on May 04, 2012, 11:46:16 PM
In my personal opinion, I think Rachel is the best racer this season, she is strong, smart, and she puts up with Dave so well. I also think she is one of the strongest females on a MF team with a relationship. it would be really sad if they dont win :(

:jam:

They definitely deserve the win; however, wouldn't Brenchel winning be so much more epic?   :jam:

No, not at all.



Unless by epic you actually mean painful.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: bcp19 on May 05, 2012, 12:12:21 AM
In my personal opinion, I think Rachel is the best racer this season, she is strong, smart, and she puts up with Dave so well. I also think she is one of the strongest females on a MF team with a relationship. it would be really sad if they dont win :(

:jam:

They definitely deserve the win; however, wouldn't Brenchel winning be so much more epic?   :jam:

No, not at all.



Unless by epic you actually mean painful.
Or epic fail
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on May 05, 2012, 01:37:16 AM
Quote from: Saravannan link=topic=26778.msg750013#msg750013
They definitely deserve the win; however, wouldn't Brenchel winning be so much more epic?   :jam:
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It would be as the haters would explode lol.  And I would call them haters as their comments are often just nasty and not reasonable.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on May 05, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
I love Rachel and can't wait to hear her say in a few days what I'm sure we all wanted to say to Dave for a long time. :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 06, 2012, 08:17:50 AM
<333333333333333
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Reilly Queens on May 06, 2012, 09:22:11 AM
No Dave doesn't deserve those 4 words.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on May 06, 2012, 09:49:33 AM
No Dave doesn't deserve those 4 words.

it's just me then
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: supah on May 06, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
I will be demoralised for life if they don't win.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 06, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
I will be demoralised for life disappointed if they don't win.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 06, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
Wooooowwwww! Phil was quoted as saying that Rachel of Dave & Rachel was his personal MVP for the race - for being highly competent, even-keeled and all that! She was outstanding in both Osaka and the final roadblock.

You got that right!! She is one of the all time racers, comparable to Gary and Cord in both skill and loveability!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: maxen on May 06, 2012, 09:09:13 PM
 :lol: they were destined to win... well deserved
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: bc922 on May 06, 2012, 09:17:43 PM
Congratulations Rachel & Dave on running a very strong race!!!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on May 06, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
I hate to see a season where one team dominates the whole race, but these two were my favorite from the start, so I'm really happy for them. :hearts: Can't wait to hear Rob's interview with them!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Topita on May 07, 2012, 12:09:20 AM
I've definitely had some moments of being slightly annoyed by Dave's rather commanding and at times presumptuous ways, especially in the way he treated Rachel, but she took it all on the chin and always knew how to give it right back as good as she got.

To me all in all just the strongest team on this race, not just by being competitive but more in terms of completing eachother and really working together as a team (at the moments they didn't have some bickering going on that is.  :lol: )

Glad to see they won, I think they were definitely most deserving of the final three to win this race.
All in all they didn't play dirty, kept out of most of the drama other teams were in and won it fair and square.
When they didn't complete the RB I thought they were done for for sure, another team would catch up but I'm quite impressed at how they kept their cool at the very end and still pulled it off together.

Solid & deserved winners of TAR 20 imo, congrats to them!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: supah on May 07, 2012, 02:44:12 AM
just watched the finale...   :hearts:

so glad they won, they deserved it, and Rachel I think is one of the top female contenders in race history if not the best  :tup:

i wish her and Dave a wonderful life together  :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: David on May 07, 2012, 05:44:06 AM
I still don't like them... I'm not having good luck with winners. Remember my E/C hate?? This is not good...

But I <3 that my favourite 2 F/F teams lately have won in the previous seasons. <333333

Waiting for TAR21! :D
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2012, 06:14:19 AM
so glad they won, they deserved it, and Rachel I think is one of the top female contenders in race history if not the best  :tup:

i wish her and Dave a wonderful life together  :luvya:

THIS
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on May 07, 2012, 06:30:30 AM
Very predictable end, their edit really was that of the loving couple who just had some quarrels now and again.  From the start of EP11 it was highlighted even more.  They had a very good edit I suspect compared to the other M/F finalist.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: kevin2012 on May 07, 2012, 07:28:02 AM
Rachel is amazing  :hearts:

The season's true MVP
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2012, 07:48:11 AM
BTW, they are the first married couple to win since Uchenna and Joyce.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Bluesky on May 07, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
Rachel is amazing  :hearts:

The season's true MVP


Roger that!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: TARFansurvivor on May 07, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Congrats Dave and Rachel!!!!!!!!!!

8 wins are AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best team ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :luvya: :luvya: :luvya: :luvya: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: bc922 on May 07, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
http://www.digitalspy.ca/ustv/s66/the-amazing-race/news/a380374/amazing-race-winners-rachel--dave-qa-winning-felt-unbelievable.html (http://www.digitalspy.ca/ustv/s66/the-amazing-race/news/a380374/amazing-race-winners-rachel--dave-qa-winning-felt-unbelievable.html)

'Amazing Race' winners Rachel & Dave Q&A: 'Winning felt unbelievable'

After five continents, nine countries, 22 cities and more than 36,000 miles, the 20th season of The Amazing Race came to an end last night with husband and wife duo Rachel and Dave being crowned the winners!

The couple not only took home the $1m grand prize, but broke the record for the most legs won in the Race. Digital Spy spoke with Rachel and Dave to talk about their winning moment, the secret of their success, and their arguments.

Congratulations on your win! Can you talk through how it felt in that winning moment when you heard you'd won the million dollars?
Rachel: "Oh, it felt unbelievable. We were so physically and mentally exhausted at that point that that was the sweetest thing we could ever have heard!"

What was more important to you - winning the million dollars, or breaking the record for the number of leg wins?
Dave: "In all honesty, from my perspective it was setting the precedent of most leg victories. I've been a huge fan of the show and in my mind it's the most competitive reality program that I've seen to date, and to be the most successful team at this point is truly astonishing. Setting a precedent was absolutely amazing - no pun intended!"
Rachel: "It was definitely the money for me!"

Well let me ask you - what are you going to spend the money on? Have you made any decisions yet?
Rachel: "Oh yeah - we're going to pay our mortgage off and maybe do a little investing."

Very good! But are you going to have a party to celebrate?
Dave: "We had a bit of a celebratory party last night in New York, so we're running on about an hour and a half of sleep! Bopper and Rachel and I basically closed the bar down last night! I'm sure once we return to Madison we'll have the opportunity to celebrate with friends and family."

You did have a few setbacks, and obviously the biggest one was that you had to go back and complete the Roadblock. How did you feel when Phil said that to you?
Rachel: "We were shocked. I thought that he was just kidding. I kind of laughed and said, 'Ha ha, that's funny Phil', and he did not laugh back - at which point I knew we had to have screwed something up. So we thought, 'What the heck could we have missed?' We had no idea so we thought it through and we thought, 'Okay, we must have missed a complete task', so we got back up on our paddle boards and we just went for it."

Did you think at that point you'd lost, or did you think there was any chance you could get back into the Race?
Rachel: "Oh no, we thought we were definitely going to come in third. So we were a little dejected, but at the same time we knew we had to finish it."

You must have felt pretty good when you got to the sledding and saw Art and JJ!
Rachel: "Oh, I was so exhausted! Paddleboarding back and forth a couple of times, then we had to run to the sledding thing, then we had to walk up the hill... oh my gosh, I was toast! I was done! So when I found out I had to do the Roadblock because Dave did the other one, I was so worried that it would take me a long time, especially after Art told me he'd had 15 tries by the time we got there."

Also in the leg in Japan you missed the ferry - you must have thought you were out! How did it feel at that point?
Dave: "That actually was a pretty dejecting feeling as well. Missing the ferry was basically a matter of seconds when we missed the train, and again a matter of minutes where we missed the ferry. And that then translated into an overnight stay at a hostel on the other side on the mainland, versus the island that we needed to be on. So again we didn't necessarily know what the island entailed - whether it was a challenge or whether it was a Pit Stop. So we were under the impression that it could have been catastrophic for Rachel's and my race."

Do you think you're just a really lucky team?
Dave: "I think there's a bit of luck involved in winning the Race."
Rachel: "Absolutely."
Dave: "But I think overall your skills and abilities and utilizing that luck to the best of your skills and abilities really makes for a successful team and Race."

And you were such a successful team - what was the secret to your success, do you think?
Rachel: "I think the biggest thing was that we really thought through the Roadblocks and the Detours. At first we just took impulse decisions because it was so exciting and the adrenaline was pumping through us, but then after the watermelon incident we said, 'Alright, we need to read through everything very carefully - if it takes up an extra minute that's fine, but then we'll choose the right thing'."
Dave: "I mean, I took this very seriously - obviously, I'm very competitive, aggressive and intense at times, but Rachel and I, we would sit down and actually analyze afterwards each and every leg - what we'd done wrong, what we intended to carry on from this point and what we could do to ensure that the next leg is better than the last."

You mentioned that you can be quite intense Dave, and you two did have some arguments. Did that make the Race harder?
Dave: "Uh, I mean, in some respects. Rachel's very competitive as well, and she is a challenge - she's feisty! And that challenge obviously doesn't translate well on television or bode well for me, especially the way it's perceived, but Rachel actually appreciates that challenge from me. And another consideration that many people don't realize is at that point we had spent 18 or 24 months apart, and now we're 24/7 together and competing in a variety of challenges and traveling around the world, so it was very difficult for both of us."

Rachel, you got very emotional at the end of the Race when you were speaking about your relationship with Dave. How has your relationship changed thanks to the Race?
Rachel: "Yeah, it was very emotional. I never cry - I even cried watching me cry last night! Very emotional. I think even though it showed the little spats we had, I think it was just a phenomenal thing for our relationship. Like Dave said, we were apart so much, so to have an entire month together, especially when we had checked into the mat and we got to spend some quality time together in a hotel, I think that was a [great thing] for our relationship. And the thing about us is that yeah, we can argue, but then we make up right away and we forget about anything that we had."

So what was your favorite moment from the Race?
Rachel: "Oh gosh, definitely, hands down, the African safari. The most beautiful, awesome thing I've ever seen in my entire life."
Dave: "Yeah, hands down it would be the same as well - the safari and the crater was absolutely phenomenal. The most surreal, majestic experience of my life."

And as well as the $1m, you've got all those prizes from winning all the legs. Which are you most excited about?
Dave: "I would actually say the trip to New Zealand. Not above and beyond the money, but the trip to New Zealand - that definitely I'm looking forward to!"
Rachel: "Absolutely!"

So as a successful team, what one piece of advice would you give future contestants going on the show?
Rachel: "I think the big thing is just, like I said, read through things very carefully and take the time to read through things. Make a very conscious decision rather than an impulse decision."
Dave: "As far as success goes, I would say again attention to detail and be detail-oriented. I didn't necessarily see the Race as anything other than a job. Rachel and I would check out and check into the mat like we were punching the time clock, so I didn't necessarily consider the ramifications of how people would perceive it based on an edit or any of those factors. Rachel and I just competed to the best of our abilities, and I think ultimately if you want to ensure success you need to be detail-oriented and just focus on the Race at hand."

You mentioned seeing Bopper last night - are you going to keep in touch with any of the Racers?
Rachel: "Oh yeah, definitely."
Dave: "Yeah, I actually do - more so than Rachel. Bopper, Ralph, Elliot and Joey I'm in touch with very, very frequently."
Rachel: "Yeah, the guys didn't have quite as many arguments as the girls! Even though I wasn't involved in the arguments I tried to stay out of everything, so I didn't really become that close with any of the girls."

You mentioned that you weren't involved in many arguments, but do you feel like the ones you did have are in the past and you can move on and be friends?
Rachel: "Oh yeah, definitely. After the wrapping of the show we all had a big fun festivity together and we all made up and yeah, we're all friends. We talk to each other, we write each other emails. So yeah, we all made up in the end."

And what's next for you? What are your plans for 2012?
Rachel: "Well, back to work as usual!"
Dave: "I'll be returning to work tomorrow as well. We're in NYC now - we should be back in Madison, which is our home town, some time probably about 4pm, and it's back to work tomorrow morning and another possibly ten plus years in the army!"
Rachel: "Work as usual!"

At least you still have all of those vacations to look forward to...
Rachel: "Yeah, exactly!"
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: bc922 on May 07, 2012, 02:09:51 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Rachel-Dave-1047025.aspx (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amazing-Race-Winners-Rachel-Dave-1047025.aspx)

Amazing Race's Rachel and Dave: It Was a Relief to Win After Our Mistake
by Joyce Eng

Dave and Rachel Brown made history on The Amazing Race 20, claiming the $1 million for a franchise record eighth victory on Sunday's finale — but not before making some other dubious history. The married Army couple accidentally skipped a second Roadblock and arrived at the finish line, where they became the first team ever to be turned back by Phil Keoghan for not completing the final course. They managed to recover and officially win the Race. "Can we say we won it twice? I said on the show last night, we had eight and a half wins since we went there once," Dave tells TVGuide.com. "It was such a great feeling when we got back the second time knowing we did it correctly and realizing that we were still first." See what else they have to say about their win, what they're gonna do with the money, and their U-Turn drama with Art and JJ.

Congratulations! How does it feel to win after almost losing it?
Rachel: [Laughs] Thank you! It was just a relief, I think. A huge relief! We definitely didn't want to be the first ones to lose from a screwup like that.

How did you miss the Roadblock? Did the cab drop you off and you didn't look to see if it was the right place?
Rachel: Well, the cab dropped us off at a couple of spots. We kept getting out and people were saying "Oh, it's that way." It was really a dirt path, so we found a route marker, but it was the wrong route marker, obviously, because it was for the final challenge. So we just stumbled into it because they were only about three-quarters of a mile apart. So imagine our surprise when Phil told us we had to go back.

They didn't really show your reaction. What went through your mind when he told you?
Dave: Actually, my initial reaction, having completed the first Roadblock — the shaved ice one — that was a 45-minute helicopter ride afterward from [one island to another]. I was under the impression that I had done something wrong there and there was no way obviously that we could recover from that. At that point, it probably would've been a three-hour cab drive and we wouldn't have had the money to cover it. We were both quite taken for a couple of minutes until we refocused our energy and we figured out there was another Roadblock.
Rachel: At first, I thought Phil was kidding, so I was laughing. I think they showed some of that. I was like, "Aw, very funny, Phil!" But he wasn't laughing back!
Dave: We've seen the show in the past and there was no way Phil was gonna joke about whether or not you just won The Amazing Race. For as much time and effort that they put into the production aspect, I knew that we had done something absolutely catastrophic.
Rachel: And we had no idea where the other teams were. We figured Brendon and Rachel were right on our tail, which is kind of funny because we didn't see them. Even when we were paddling the first time, we thought, "Are we first or second?" We had no idea because we didn't see them.

Did you think about how you could be the first team to get turned back and lose?
Rachel: I think we were so determined that we didn't try to think about it. We were just like, "OK, we have to complete the task and keep moving forward."
Dave: Yeah, we worked our way up the path. As you saw, there was a woman outside [who] directed us and we ran down and Rachel killed the challenge. She crushed it!
Rachel: It took me two times [to slide down the hill].
Dave: Yeah, just two! That was not editing.
Rachel: The first time was so painful. It felt like all the skin was ripped off my back because I was going down on my bare back on the grass when I wiped out. So the second time, I was just so determined not to wipe out because it hurt so bad the first time.

Did you think you were first after that? Did Art and JJ indicate if they had seen Brendon and Rachel?
Dave: We were under the impression that Art and JJ were in the lead when we arrived. [When we were done], we drove the ATVs to the paddleboards and I would say for the first quarter-mile, we thought we were in first place. Then I glanced over and I saw fresh ATV tracks and I go, "Wait a minute! Maybe Art and JJ aren't telling us something. Maybe Brendon and Rachel are out in front." The last portion when we were paddling across, you heard us say to each other, "Hey, I'm proud of you," without realizing that we were the first team. But what was definitely reassuring after completing the Roadblock was knowing where the finish line was.

And you also have the record for most leg wins. Eight out of 12 is pretty tough to beat.
Rachel: Yeah! It hasn't been broken in 20 seasons, so hopefully we'll have it for a while.

I talked to Phil last week and he called you, Rachel, his season MVP.
Rachel: We saw that! That was awesome! Thanks, Phil!

And he told you, Dave, to give her more props in Tanzania and a lot of fans think you're too hard on her. You guys also fought frequently. Do you think you're too hard on her?
Dave: I think, as any married couple would, we had the tendency to bicker. The Race is basically a microcosm of life. It's an over-amplified version of life. You're competing in a variety of challenges and just traveling around the world can be very difficult for some couples. We obviously did something right. Rachel did absolutely phenomenal at all aspects of it. I was very supportive of Rachel. Maybe it wasn't shown as frequently, but every challenge we would complete, I motivated her — whether it was positive reinforcement or negative reinforcement — to do absolutely the best we could. And it worked out pretty well for us.
Rachel: Yeah, we fought, but that's not an accurate representation of what we're like.

Let's talk about the U-Turn fiasco. How shocked were you that Art and JJ were so hung up on it?
Rachel: We were completely surprised! We had no idea they would act that way. We talked about U-Turning Brendon and Rachel in Germany, so that was a bunch of legs before the U-Turn leg. By the time we got to the U-Turn leg, we knew [Nary and Jamie] were so far behind that it did not make sense to use the U-Turn. We just did not want to create enemies for no reason.
Dave: Even in discussing it in Germany, it had to have been a logical use of the U-Turn, like if we were second to last and it was a last resort. If we had done it, it would've been a completely emotional decision and there's no need in creating unnecessary work on other teams and creating enemies.

And you accidentally created a new enemy.
Rachel: [Laughs] Exactly! We thought they'd get it, but they obviously didn't.

Did they talk to you at all the rest of the Race?
Rachel: Art did. Art was nice. Every time at the airport, he was nice and would come and say hi. But JJ was a complete baby! [Laughs] He refused to talk to us. ... All the teams made up after the wrap. We all talk and we're all friends.

Do you guys ever think about Leg 3 in Paraguay when you became the first team to not complete a single task and stay in?
Rachel: Oh my God! Yeah, a lot of firsts for us this season! Oh, that was a terrible leg. I never want to see watermelons again!

Did you think you could get eliminated or were you confident that you were far enough ahead that you would be safe with the two-hour penalty?
Dave: Once I put that bottle on my head, I knew it was a completely terrible decision on both our parts. She obviously can dance; she crushed the Bollywood dance. She should've completed that water dance one, but we were physically and mentally exhausted from the watermelons. During the cab ride, the smog and the heat took their toll on Rachel and she actually vomited in the back of the cab in between my legs into a bag. So when we arrived, she was out of it and there was no way in hell she could've competed, so I did it. And obviously my head is not conducive to retaining a bottle, that's for damn sure. [Laughs]

So you purposely broke all 20 bottles?
Dave: Oh yeah! I knew we had a pretty decent cushion, thankfully due to the use of the Express Pass. It was a two-hour penalty for not completing it versus a four-hour penalty for not attempting it or quitting. I think there was only 20 minutes remaining when the next team arrived.
Rachel: We were just happy to stay in it at that point.

Dave, is "complete and utter failure" your favorite phrase? You say that a lot.
Dave: [Laughs] No, it's not! For some Racers — whether it was Marcus and the football analogies that he used — these are the personalities that are created based on who you truly are in real life, but it's an over-exaggeration of who you are at times. That was one instance.
Rachel: It was better than [Vanessa and Ralph's] "cheese and crackers!" [Laughs]

What are you up to now? What are you gonna do with the money?
Dave: Right now, we're sitting in a hotel room that's in complete disarray from last night's festivities. [Laughs] Bopper's down the hall. We had a pretty eventful evening.
Rachel: We got an hour and half of sleep.
Dave: We've talked about [the money] and just having the financial freedom and stability and not having a mortgage. We'll probably invest money at some point and probably establish our family.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on May 07, 2012, 02:39:32 PM
I want to see a proper unedited version of their reaction on the mat, I'm not holding my breath though. :(  That's the trouble with a show so edited and with a zero live element.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Bluesky on May 07, 2012, 03:21:06 PM
I want to see a proper unedited version of their reaction on the mat, I'm not holding my breath though. :(  That's the trouble with a show so edited and with a zero live element.
 

In the real world, there are plenty of people who react to adversity by staying calm, figuring out what to do next, and then setting out to do it. Their reaction on the mat, as shown, is pretty much exactly what I would have expected of them. In fact they won precisely because they stayed in control more often than the other teams around them.

Just because sitcoms and "reality" shows constantly show people over-reacting to every little thing, doesn't mean that real people do that.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2012, 03:30:11 PM
What was more important to you - winning the million dollars, or breaking the record for the number of leg wins?
Dave: "In all honesty, from my perspective it was setting the precedent of most leg victories. I've been a huge fan of the show and in my mind it's the most competitive reality program that I've seen to date, and to be the most successful team at this point is truly astonishing. Setting a precedent was absolutely amazing - no pun intended!"
Rachel: "It was definitely the money for me!"


:lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2012, 03:36:10 PM
So on the whole race they won: The Express Pass, A trip for two to Grenada, two 2013 Ford Taurus SHO, A trip for two to Costa Rica,  A trip for two to Saint Lucia,  $20,000 each, A trip for two to New Zealand, $1 million!!!!

Four vacations, two cars and of course money!!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on May 07, 2012, 03:40:03 PM

In the real world, there are plenty of people who react to adversity by staying calm, figuring out what to do next, and then setting out to do it. Their reaction on the mat, as shown, is pretty much exactly what I would have expected of them. In fact they won precisely because they stayed in control more often than the other teams around them.

Just because sitcoms and "reality" shows constantly show people over-reacting to every little thing, doesn't mean that real people do that.

They argued plenty.  Because they were the winners they didn't give them a bad edit though.  Anyway, however they reacted I still want to see the full version, what they asked Phil and what he told them.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Bluesky on May 07, 2012, 03:50:15 PM

In the real world, there are plenty of people who react to adversity by staying calm, figuring out what to do next, and then setting out to do it. Their reaction on the mat, as shown, is pretty much exactly what I would have expected of them. In fact they won precisely because they stayed in control more often than the other teams around them.

Just because sitcoms and "reality" shows constantly show people over-reacting to every little thing, doesn't mean that real people do that.

They argued plenty.  Because they were the winners they didn't give them a bad edit though.  Anyway, however they reacted I still want to see the full version, what they asked Phil and what he told them.
 

That would be great to see.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Katarzyna on May 07, 2012, 04:02:31 PM
Rachel is so impressive this season. One of the best female racers. She handled her ill tempered, misogynist (not really) husband very well. God bless her!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: bcp19 on May 07, 2012, 04:36:55 PM
So on the whole race they won: The Express Pass, A trip for two to Grenada, two 2013 Ford Taurus SHO, A trip for two to Costa Rica,  A trip for two to Saint Lucia,  $20,000 each, A trip for two to New Zealand, $1 million!!!!

Four vacations, two cars and of course money!!
Do you realize this means they broke the car curse?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
So on the whole race they won: The Express Pass, A trip for two to Grenada, two 2013 Ford Taurus SHO, A trip for two to Costa Rica,  A trip for two to Saint Lucia,  $20,000 each, A trip for two to New Zealand, $1 million!!!!

Four vacations, two cars and of course money!!
Do you realize this means they broke the car curse?

I don't think there was such a thing in TAR really. We only have a few examples compared to Survivor. :)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: maxen on May 07, 2012, 06:00:03 PM
Didn't Nick & Star win electric cars?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Best Loser on May 07, 2012, 06:33:38 PM
Let's compare

Nick & Starr
A trip for two to Belize, A trip for two to US Virgin Islands, Two electric cars, A trip for two to Hawaii, Two waverunners, A trip for two to Anguilla, $1,000,000

Meghan & Cheyne
A trip for two to Colorado; A trip for two to Jamaica, Two personal watercrafts, A red cedar sauna, A trip for two to Hawaii, A pair of 52 inch HD LCD TVs, $1,000,000

Out of the three, who got the best stuff?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2012, 06:41:59 PM
Dave and Rachel is still the best because they can buy two pwc's and a tv with the $20,000. Ford Taurus' are superior to the electric cars and they got four vacations to Meghan and Cheyne's three.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Katarzyna on May 07, 2012, 06:52:18 PM
Ford Taurus > Electric car
That electric car is hideous.
Zev & Justin won the best car prize tho.  :colors
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 07, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
Presents from NYC!  :hearts:
 
 
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Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2012, 06:55:11 PM
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
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 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: maxen on May 07, 2012, 06:58:41 PM
 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: TexasLady on May 07, 2012, 07:04:01 PM
Nice! Lots of love from Dave and Rachel for Prophet!  :hoot: :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on May 07, 2012, 07:17:20 PM
Ford Taurus > Electric car
That electric car is hideous.
Zev & Justin won the best car prize tho.  :colors

No way, Andy & Tommy won Mustangs! :lol:

Are those Rachel & Dave pictures your doings, Peach? :)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: LoveRocked on May 07, 2012, 07:46:40 PM
:colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3
 :colors :hearts: :luvya: :wohoo: :conf: :hrt: :<3


YOU ARE LUCKY!!!!!! I'm jealous too!!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: bc922 on May 07, 2012, 08:40:46 PM
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-rachel-brown-and-dave-brown-talk-the-amazing-race-%28pt1%29-13444.php (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-rachel-brown-and-dave-brown-talk-the-amazing-race-%28pt1%29-13444.php)

Exclusive: Rachel Brown and Dave Brown talk 'The Amazing Race' (Pt.1)

By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski, 05/07/2012

Rachel Brown and Dave Brown were crowned the champions of The Amazing Race's twentieth season during Sunday night's two-hour finale broadcast of the CBS reality competition.

The "Married Couple" beat out "Border Patrol Agents and Friends" Art Velez and J.J. Carrell -- who came in second place overall -- and third-place finishers, "Engaged Couple" and former Big Brother houseguests Brendon Villegas and Rachel Reilly. "Dating Divorcees" Vanessa Macias and Ralph Kelley finished in fourth place mid-episode, and therefore, were ineligible to compete in the final twelfth leg of the Race with the Final 3.

Rachel and Dave not only managed to win The Amazing Race, but they also broke the show's record of having the most wins in a particular season. On Monday, the pair talked to Reality TV World about their The Amazing Race experience -- including what they plan to spend their million-dollar winnings on, how they explained making the major mistake of accidentally skipping a Roadblock task at the end of the final leg, and what each member of the couple highly appreciates about their teammate and partner despite how their arguing might appear to viewers.

Below is the first half of our exclusive interview with Rachel and Dave. Check back with Reality TV World tomorrow for the concluding portion.

Reality TV World: Congratulations on your big win you two!

Rachel Brown: Thank you!

Reality TV World: So my first question is what do you plan on doing with the money?

Dave Brown: Things that are honestly quite boring and sensible. We need to pay off our mortgage to have that financial security and stability of not paying it monthly.

Reality TV World: Okay and getting into the Race, how far ahead of Art and J.J. do you think you arrived at the Pit Stop when you won The Amazing Race? And then how far behind Art and J.J. do you think Rachel and Brendon finally arrived?

Rachel Brown: It's hard to say. I would say maybe Art and J.J. were about 20 minutes behind us.

Dave Brown: Twenty and 20 possibly.

Rachel Brown: Yeah.

Dave Brown: I'd say within 45 minutes both teams arrived behind us.

Reality TV World: During the final leg of the Race, you guys apparently didn't follow the marked path and then ended up doing the paddleboard task to the finish instead of going to the Hawaiian-games Roadblock task you were supposed to complete. Could you talk about that a little bit? How do you think you missed that part of the clue and how long did it take you to backtrack and get to the Roadblock task from the Pit Stop after you met Phil Keoghan and he gave you the bad news?

Rachel Brown: I would say that took us about an hour out of the way, and the reason that we missed the correct route marker is because we passed the route marker for the finish before we got to the other one. So we had to pass the one for the final part in order to get to the one with the sledding. So we recognized it and saw it, but we weren't supposed to.

Dave Brown: And again, the clue with the route information -- it didn't necessarily specify a Roadblock in my recollection. It really was, "Go to this location to receive your next clue." So again, we stumbled across a red and yellow flag and our cab driver was somewhat oblivious to where this location was, so we just assumed, "We're here now and this is it."

So we followed the marked path and we were astonished when we noticed the teams lined up and it was so surreal. And then we got on the mat and Phil had mentioned that, "Yes you are the first team to arrive, however, you did not successfully complete a Roadblock."

Reality TV World: So when he told you two that, what exactly was going through your minds? And when you ended up leaving that Pit Stop, you didn't really seem to be defeated at all and you maintained pretty positive attitudes. So were you confident you were still in first place at that point and that's why you didn't freak out?

Rachel Brown: Absolutely not. (Laughs) We thought Phil was just kidding when he said that.

Dave Brown: No.

Rachel Brown: Well, I did. I thought he was kidding, so I was just laughing like, "Oh, good joke, Phil." And he didn't laugh back, so then we realized that, "Oh, wow. We really actually did miss something." And we sat down for a second and Dave thought, "Oh well maybe we didn't complete the ice-shaving thing correctly."

He thought maybe we'd have to go all the way back there and of course, we took the helicopter ride to get to that location. So we were really nervous that we would not be able to complete the Race at all, let alone come in first.

Reality TV World: What was your reaction when you saw Art and J.J. still attempting to complete the sledding Roadblock task when you guys finally arrived there? Did it pump your adrenaline more to win now that you realized you were no longer in first place, or did it deflate the wind in your sails a bit?

Dave Brown: No, we were definitely -- it was reassuring to see another team, because we knew at this point, we were at least competing for either first or that there was another team in the Race.

At any point throughout the course of the Race itself, seeing another team, it's somewhat reassuring because you know that you're competing against another team versus being on your own and not necessarily knowing where you stand with the current teams remaining.

So it was definitely reassuring to see Art and J.J. and know that Art was having such difficulty with the challenge, that according to a local, was much easier for women.

Reality TV World: Yeah, I was just going to ask you a little bit about that. Rachel, you didn't seem to struggle with the sledding task at all, so I didn't know whether Art was just really bad at it or you thought women in general or just lighter people in general had an advantage. So it sounds like you think it was easier for women, right?

Rachel Brown: Well, I think it had to do with the course. So, you really had to balance yourself on that, and if you got off balance at all, you flipped right over. So, yeah, (laughs) it was a good core workout.

Reality TV World: After you guys landed in Hiroshima during the eleventh leg of the Race, you guys were the only team to miss that train, and Dave, you kept saying how stalling one minute could make a big difference and possibly affect the whole outcome of the Race. Could you talk about what happened there? What was the stall, was it just because you couldn't figure out where to buy the tickets? And how much later did the next train leave?

Rachel Brown: We had to buy tickets, so that was the stall. So, since we were the last to buy tickets, we ran up to the platform and the train had already left. It was just pulling away, so that was pretty heart-wrenching.

Dave Brown: Yeah, it was basically again just a matter of seconds, and missing the train transpired into minutes of missing the ferry, and then missing the ferry cost us an entire evening of having to stay at a hospital versus competing with the teams not knowing what was in store.

Rachel Brown: So for seven hours, Dave was sitting there thinking, "Wow, we're out of this Race. The teams are going to be done."

Reality TV World: So since you guys had to wait until the following morning to take the next available ferry, you said it gave you guys time talk out your problems and that you had clear heads going into the rest of the Race. How important do you think that discussion was to you guys ultimately winning The Amazing Race? Did it change your team dynamic drastically, and if you don't mind talking about it, what are some of the things you worked out?

Rachel Brown: Well I think the best thing about Dave and I's relationship is that we can have arguments, but then we squash it right away. We don't let things linger and we don't let it affect us in the long run.

Dave Brown: In some respects, and also from what you've seen on the show with regard to some of our bickering and arguing, much of that, we are actually saying to one another and it's a challenge. But we appreciate the challenge. We both do.

I think that's part of the reason that we're so successful in the Race. We do challenge each other. We push one another and Rachel has no qualms telling me when I'm wrong and I have no qualms with telling her when she's wrong or I feel I'm right.

A lot of people misperceive that as being demeaning or bickering and what have you, which it could be, but you know at times, that's what we appreciate about one another. We're not averse to challenging one another.

Reality TV World: You guys did win eight of The Amazing Race's legs and broke the show's record of most wins during a season. But would you say it's harder to compete as a couple during the Race rather than a team of friends or family, or do you think you actually had an advantage working together as a married couple? How do you think racing as married partners either helped or hurt you?

Rachel Brown: I think it would be so much easier to run with a friend. (Laughs)

Dave Brown: I definitely feel the same way. With a friend, you don't necessarily have the emotional investment that you do in a marital partnership or what have you and being with your spouse, there can be times that marital bickering can be very difficult and trying and not lend itself to solid team work. But I think Rachel and I fought through it...

Rachel Brown: Literally. (Laughs)

Dave Brown: Exactly. (Laughs)

Above is the first half of our exclusive interview with Rachel and Dave. Check back with Reality TV World tomorrow for the concluding portion.
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Post by: bc922 on May 07, 2012, 08:43:11 PM
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Winning The Amazing Race with Rachel and Dave Brown
by Reg Seeton

This week on the season finale of The Amazing Race, husband and wife team of Rachel Brown and Dave Brown walked away the winners after a thrilling finish.

Although Rachel and Dave set a record on The Amazing Race with eight first place finishes, the husband and wife team nearly lost it all when the two hit the mat in Honolulu but had to complete a required roadblock. Despite the setback, however, Rachel and Dave were crowned the winners of The Amazing Race after retracing their steps to beat boarder patrol agents Art and J.J. and the Big Brother team of Brendan and Rachel.

It was a thrilling finish to the latest season of The Amazing Race.

Following their Amazing Race victory, The Deadbolt spoke with Rachel and Dave to learn more about the final leg, how they felt about some of the drama, and how Rachel got through a rubber chicken challenge in Japan.

THE DEADBOLT: So, have you scheduled all of those trips yet?

DAVE: If only we had the time.

RACHEL: We have to build up vacation time first.

THE DEADBOLT: Did you think it was over when Phil told you about the final roadblock?

RACHEL: Oh, yes! We thought it was doomsday. We thought we were done.

DAVE: It was definitely heartbreaking. We didn’t really know how to react to it. Rachel initially assumed that he was joking and there was no way in hell we were going to choke on the final mat. But my first thought was, did I do something wrong in the ice roadblock? Being a fan of the show, I’d never seen two roadblocks in a single leg before.

THE DEADBOLT: Despite the challenges on a relationship, how tough was it to actually accomplish eight wins?

RACHEL: Well, I think a lot of it came with luck, which person does the roadblock, which taxi driver you get. So a lot of it comes down to luck.

DAVE: But also skill and ability and creating your own luck. For example, the cab driver that we had in Hawaii, we definitely strategically selected the big Samoan gentleman who was obviously familiar with the area.

THE DEADBOLT: Had you kept your alliance with Art and J.J., do you think you still would have won, or would they have slowed you down?

DAVE: I think in some respect it was a perfect breaking point for our supposed alliance. Art and J.J. were a little bit preoccupied with the drama of the other teams and they lost focus on their abilities. I think Rachel and I were able to take full advantage of that and become as successful as we have.

THE DEADBOLT: In the final task, you shook J.J.’s hand. Was that genuine?

DAVE: Yeah, definitely. I have no animosity toward anyone. The only drama that Rachel and I had, every argument and bickering session was aired, so that was a bit difficult. But I didn’t have any qualms with any of the other teams at all. I was a little perturbed that J.J. was hyper-critical of a very tactical decision. With him being a federal law enforcement agent, you would assume he would make a logical decision versus playing so emotionally.

THE DEADBOLT: Rachel, was that rubber chicken challenge hard or easy for you to get through?

RACHEL: It was so funny, I couldn’t stop laughing. It was really hard because after you grabbed the chicken – and it was hard to grab the chicken because I jumped up a bunch of times – they would speed up the treadmill. So you had to run for your life to jump onto that mat. It was fast! I felt so bad for Vanessa.

THE DEADBOLT: Was there anything you wish we saw that wasn’t aired on TV?

DAVE: I have a 13-year old and we spoke about him very highly. He’s truly one of the best people I have ever met. I wish there was a bit more dedicated to him so people could hear about him.
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Post by: Reilly Queens on May 07, 2012, 08:44:48 PM
..you are all really arguing about winning prizes? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Best Loser on May 07, 2012, 10:41:06 PM
..you are all really arguing about winning prizes? :lol:

Yeah! What else are we supposed to argue about? Who the strongest team is?...



...which totally is still Colin & Christie.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2012, 09:49:57 AM
<--- because multiple people asked me to... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: TAR Fanatic on May 08, 2012, 10:06:49 AM
You so deserve that picture and note Prophet. You were their #1 Fan. You defended them through thick and thin. I think it's awesome that Dave and Rachel are acknowledging your support. You should display that new avatar with pride!   :luvya:
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Post by: kevin2012 on May 08, 2012, 10:28:43 AM
can I not get one from Mark and Bopper? :(

anyway, that's awesome Phrophet, lucky you
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Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
You so deserve that picture and note Prophet. You were their #1 Fan. You defended them through thick and thin. I think it's awesome that Dave and Rachel are acknowledging your support. You should display that new avatar with pride!   :luvya:

Thanks TAR Fanatic :) You're right, they were so nice to do that, they're awesome people! :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 08, 2012, 01:30:54 PM
You so deserve that picture and note Prophet. You were their #1 Fan. You defended them through thick and thin. I think it's awesome that Dave and Rachel are acknowledging your support. You should display that new avatar with pride!   :luvya:

Thanks TAR Fanatic :) You're right, they were so nice to do that, they're awesome people! :hrt:

 :tup: :yess:
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Post by: starrynight on May 08, 2012, 02:54:29 PM
Yeh it's nice to see them acknowledge support and forums in general.  Some people can be idiots on forums but there can be some decent thoughts and debate as well, alongside some loyal support.  But with the internet in general I think you learn to ignore the more boring people and just listen to the better ones. 

Obviously it's impossible to deny they were the most competitive team.  I don't think they were the biggest characters as I suppose they were so focussed on the race we didn't see so much on their quirkier side.  Rachel could be funny sometimes though.
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Post by: dpe on May 08, 2012, 05:19:54 PM
Local Media interview.

http://host.madison.com/entertainment/television/dave-and-rachel-brown-talk-about-winning-the-amazing-race/article_b487d144-992c-11e1-960a-0019bb2963f4.html



For Rachel and Dave Brown, the Race is finally over.

The last leg of "The Amazing Race" for the Madison couple came Monday, a victory lap of appearances and interviews to talk about winning the CBS reality competition series. The competition actually ended in December, but the pair couldn't tell anyone how they did until the season finale aired on Sunday night.

In addition to winning $1 million, several trips, and his-and-hers cars, the Madison couple lay claim to being the most successful team in 20 seasons, having won a record-setting eight challenges during the globe-trotting competition. They said they appreciated the wave of support they got back home.

"We've gotten such support from Madisonians and Wisconsinites and the military and the Wisconsin Guard," said Dave Brown, a Wisconsin National Guardsmen who served in Iraq. "I mean, to arrive back home today from New York City and have Bucky and the Adjutant General for the state of Wisconsin, Gen. (Donald P.) Dunbar, on site (at the airport) was astronomical. We couldn't expect anything more from those who we care about and those who we live near."

Now they say they're looking forward to getting back to a normal life (although they're thrilled about one more appearance, throwing out the first pitch at the May 19 Brewers game.) Rachel is a project manager at Epic Systems in Verona who travels frequently for work, while Dave is now is an assistant professor of military science at the UW-Madison's ROTC detachment.

The Browns talked with 77 Square about their favorite and least favorite challenges on the Race, the perception the show gave of them as a "bickering" couple, and whether they'd Race again:

Did any of your friends and family every suspect that you won? Did you ever almost slip and let the cat out of the bag?

Rachel: Not at all. It actually became kind of a fun game. I think we misled our friends and family down the wrong direction. We were very nonchalant about everything, and they kept thinking, "Oh, maybe you guys didn't win, maybe something happened."

Dave: We just returned from New York City, and there's what referred to as TARcon, these fanatics that absolutely follow and love the race. One of the individuals claimed to have 100 percent accuracy guessing the winners. I think we deterred him. He said, "Well, I'm pretty confident that the two of you won, because you're in New York, and none of the other teams in the final four are here."

And I said, "Well, Rachel and I are very close to our friends and family. Do you think I would want to spend us winning here with you, or with our friends and family?" He was like, "Dammit!" Completely threw him off.

What was it like watching the show week after week, at these parties? Because you guys were seeing the show for the first time too, right?

Rachel: It was so fun to watch. A lot of stuff, we had no idea that it happened, or how people would be portrayed. It was a little bit nerve-wracking after the edit starting coming out and we were the "bickering couple." We were like, "Oh, no, we don't want to be the bickering couple."

Dave: That truly isn't us. What most people perceive as bickering – and Rachel and I will both attest to this – we perceive as challenging. Both Rachel and I have been very successful at all our aspects of our life – personally, professionally, academically. But one aspect, relationships, had never been a strong point for either one of us. Much of that had to do with the fact that our previous partners would try to placate us. Rachel and I challenge each other, and we appreciate that challenge.

That's just the nature of your relationship, that you push each other.

Dave: We definitely push each other to strive for more. But obviously that's not the day-to-day nature of our lives. But when you're vying for a million dollars, and both of us pride ourselves on being aggressive and intense . . . Obviously the Race, being under time constraints for each episode, probably choose to concentrate on a handful of characteristics for each individual person. And mine just happened to be those that are magnified to the nth degree.

It probably would have been decent had I been racing with another Army officer or a friend. But when you're traveling with your wife, and everybody perceives her to be this "Army wife" and not this equal professional that I know her to be, it doesn't necessarily lend itself to positive remarks from the media for me.

That's one thing that we talked about in the office, Rachel being tagged as an "Army wife" on the show when we knew she had a career as a project manager at Epic Systems. How did you feel about that, Rachel?

Rachel: That is the Number Two question I receive the most. Number One is "Are Brendon and Rachel as annoying as they appear on the show?" (laughs) Everyone at work was saying "Omigosh, I can't believe they called you an Army wife. That just does not do you justice." But I really didn't mind it. A. It's part of our story, and hey, if you're going to give me a million dollars, a bunch of trips and a car, you can call me whatever the heck you want. (laughs)

What was your favorite challenge to do on the show, and what was your least favorite? I'll bet I can guess the least.

Dave: Which one would you suspect would be our least favorite?

Easily the watermelon stacking. (Teams had to stack a perfect 10-by-10 pyramid of watermelons in grueling heat.)

Dave: You got it!

Rachel: That sucked so bad! It didn't even show how bad it sucked. We were there for four hours, stacking, unstacking, stacking, unstacking. It fell down about 15 times. It was just so hot and humid and there's smog in the air. I was throwing up.

Dave: Rachel was vomiting between my legs in the backseat of a cab in Asuncion, Paraguay, with a sound guy and a cameraman, both of whom were just as nauseated by the smog and the heat as well. They could have cared less to video it.

That actually led into one of the worst challenges for me, which was the bottle dancing. As everyone's well aware, my wife can dance. Bollywood, whatever. Obviously Rachel should have done the bottle dance, but she was just out of it physically and mentally, so I was forced to do it.

So what was your favorite?

Rachel: My favorite thing that we did, and it wasn't a challenge, was the safari in Africa. Oh my gosh. The most unbelievable thing that I've ever seen. The animals, the people, the scenery. I want to go back there for sure.

Dave: That was definitely one of the most surreal, majestic experiences of my life. But as far as challenges, I'd have to say the one in Japan with the sumo wrestlers. (Rachel and Dave had to get 30 Japanese strangers to pose for photos inside a sumo wrestler cutout.) I loved it, because you were in among the populace, and you got to mingle with people outside the Race. It was honestly the only challenge that took me outside the Race. Rachel and I are very social people and that allowed us to get out there and mingle. It was awesome.

Have you maintained friendships with other team members after the Race?

Dave: I've actually maintained very healthy contact with many of the other contestants. Bopper, we'll be lifelong friends. He and I probably maintained the best friendship at this point. Elliot and Andrew were just here in Madison, those are my boys for life as well.

During the race itself, you don't get to co-mingle with the other teammates, because they want everything to be on camera, so that being said, you're somewhat sequestered back to your room after each leg.

So do you think it'll be easy to transition back to a normal, not-on-TV life again in Madison?

Rachel: We're actually looking forward to it, to having our Sundays back, where we can sit on the couch and chill out. Not worry about arguing on TV.

Dave: We're actually very excited to bring some normalcy to our lives. I'm ready for the 15-minute clock to expire.

Do you think the race has affected how you guys solve problems as a couple?

Rachel: Before Dave deployed, we worked together really well and our communication was awesome. Then he left for a year, and we became these independent people, didn't depend on each other at all. So I think the Race went to us getting back to that, where we could actually communicate with each other, and realize that we have to depend on each other to be successful.

You know if they do an Amazing Race All-Stars, they're going to knock on your door again and ask you to race. Would you do it?

Rachel: Heck yeah!

Dave: In a heartbeat.
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Post by: starrynight on May 08, 2012, 05:55:19 PM

During the race itself, you don't get to co-mingle with the other teammates, because they want everything to be on camera, so that being said, you're somewhat sequestered back to your room after each leg.


I think the producers have got it wrong here, and it never used to be like that.
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Post by: Best Loser on May 08, 2012, 06:37:00 PM

During the race itself, you don't get to co-mingle with the other teammates, because they want everything to be on camera, so that being said, you're somewhat sequestered back to your room after each leg.


I think the producers have got it wrong here, and it never used to be like that.

They started doing that in Season 14, and I think it's pretty much anonymous unanimous from viewers that "eat, sleep, and mingle" is much better.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Mug Costanza on May 08, 2012, 07:07:54 PM

During the race itself, you don't get to co-mingle with the other teammates, because they want everything to be on camera, so that being said, you're somewhat sequestered back to your room after each leg.


I think the producers have got it wrong here, and it never used to be like that.

They started doing that in Season 14, and I think it's pretty much anonymous unanimous from viewers that "eat, sleep, and mingle" is much better.

I believe they still allow the teams to "eat, sleep, and mingle" on rare occasions (like the first Pit Stop in Tanzania this season, when teams had to set up their own camp), but for the most part, it has been eliminated.
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Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2012, 08:00:10 PM
Wasn't there a lot of that sort of thing at the Azerbaijan camp out?
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Post by: Mug Costanza on May 08, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
Wasn't there a lot of that sort of thing at the Azerbaijan camp out?

I'm sure there was -- that was when Art & JJ got suspicious of Nary & Jamie not actually being teachers -- but that wasn't a Pit Stop. I think Dave was explicitly referring to Pit Stops.
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Post by: bc922 on May 08, 2012, 11:06:47 PM
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'The Amazing Race' Exit Interview: Rachel and Dave
The show's most successful team ever on how they won the prize, even with all the fighting
By Diane Vadino

Rachel and Dave Brown, a combat pilot and Army wife, destroyed the competition on this season's "Amazing Race, " ultimately winning a record-setting eight legs as well as a million-dollar prize. They were, in fact, so dominant that not even skipping a task -- and having to backtrack to finish it in an "Amazing Race" finale first -- kept them from the prize.

We spoke to them about bickering their way through the race (they say it just motivates them to be better), Rachel's domination on the sled challenge, and picking up clues just like Katniss.

When did you first realize that something was wrong when you hit the mat the first time last night? 

Rachel: We had no clue [something was wrong] until Phil said, "However … "

Dave: The other racers were just as astonished as we were. But then there was the "However," and Phil's eyebrow raised.

What went through your mind when you heard that?

Rachel: My first thought was, "He's just kidding."

Dave: I was absolutely baffled. I had no idea what had happened. Phil alluded to the fact that Roadblock had not been completed, so we left the mat and just thought about it briefly. Strangely enough, we're on the main thoroughfare and there's a woman having a cigarette, and we asked her if she recognized [the place in the clue] and she said, "Yeah, it's about a quarter mile down the road." We ran the whole way, and then saw a mud road with a small "Amazing Race" banner. Then we followed it and I spotted fresh footprints.

That was kind of an amazing moment when you knew you were on the right path because of the print. It was like something out of "The Hunger Games."

Dave: We just knew there had been teams running around with their crews.

When you got to the sled challenge, what place did you think you were in?

Rachel: We thought [Rachel and Brendon] were definitely ahead of us. They had been right behind us at ice shaving.

Dave: I was talking to J.J., and he mentioned that Big Brother hadn't arrived yet, and that's when I realized we were contending for first place again. When we left, though, I noticed that there were ATV tracks, and I thought maybe J.J. threw us off. Your mind is just completely racing at this point. That's why, when we were crossing the pond again, I was, like, "I'm proud of you either way" because we really didn't know.

Every team comes off the "Race" saying that communication is the most important element. But it seemed like you guys actually didn't communicate very well. What were you doing right that we couldn't see from at home?

Rachel: We can have little spats, but we let them go. It's not something that holds us back.

Dave: Believe me, they incorporated every argument Rachel and I had. We are both very competitive people and very controlling. Rachel pushes my buttons, and that motivates me. And I push her buttons, and that motivates her. I think what most people would perceive as bickering or arguing, we used it to motivate each other. But ultimately, above and beyond [what we did right was] our attention to detail, and our detailed analysis of the Detours and Roadblocks. We really took time to assess which would be better for us.

Rachel: I think it's something you saw in the last episode, with the sumo wrestlers or the sushi. We said, sushi sounds like it's something out of our control, and we don't want things to be left to chance. We'd rather be able to drive our own success.

Dave, what do you think was Rachel's best moment on the race?

Dave: The sled. Art and J.J. are both very competitive, and they were attempting it like 50 times. She was actually able to complete it within two attempts.

How'd you do it, Rachel?

Rachel: It was a complete balance thing. I just squeezed my core and tried to stay on for my life. The first time I went down, it felt like I had rug burn all over my body. The second time, I was just not going to have to do it again.

What will you guys use the money for?

Dave: Rachel and I are both very sensible, frugal people, and we're going to use this money to pay off our mortgage and provide financial stability, and we'll invest quite a bit of it.
 
Rachel: And I think I'm just going to really splurge and buy something [small] in one of those Skymall magazines we saw all the time.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: bc922 on May 08, 2012, 11:17:47 PM
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Exclusive: Rachel Brown and Dave Brown talk 'Amazing Race' (Pt. 2)
By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski

Rachel Brown and Dave Brown were crowned the champions of The Amazing Race's twentieth season during Sunday night's two-hour finale broadcast of the CBS reality competition.

The "Married Couple" beat out "Border Patrol Agents and Friends" Art Velez and J.J. Carrell -- who came in second place overall -- and third-place finishers, "Engaged Couple" and former Big Brother houseguests Brendon Villegas and Rachel Reilly. "Dating Divorcees" Vanessa Macias and Ralph Kelley finished in fourth place mid-episode, and therefore, were ineligible to compete in the final twelfth leg of the Race with the Final 3.

Rachel and Dave not only managed to win The Amazing Race, but they also broke the show's record of having the most wins in a particular season. On Monday, the pair talked to Reality TV World about their The Amazing Race experience -- including who they believed got "too emotionally invested" in the Race and then lost focus as a result, which task they had the greatest time together attempting to complete and why they thought Nary Ebeid and Jamie Graetz's "kindergarten teacher" cover-up story made absolutely no sense.

Below is the concluding portion of our exclusive interview with Rachel and Dave. Click here to read the first half.

Reality TV World: During the eleventh leg, you guys chose to do the "Photo Cut-Out" Detour task, while everyone else chose to do the sushi one. You guys seemed to breeze through that Detour task, so is that accurate? How long do you think it took you, and after watching last night's episode, do you think you would've struggled with the sushi task?

Rachel Brown: Yeah, we're so glad that we did the sumo wrestling. It probably took us about, I'd say, 15 minutes -- at first.

Dave Brown: Fifteen minutes? The entire task?

Rachel Brown: Well once we got there. We had to haul this thing with the big sumo wrestlers all over the city on foot. So I'm sure the people in Japan thought that we were insane.

Dave Brown: I would definitely say it took close to an hour, but it truly was -- that was probably the greatest task that we had experienced together, because we had the opportunity to kind of break away from the Race and speak to the locals.

Surprisingly enough, when we first elected it, I was under the impression that -- I know that Rachel's hyper social and I'm very social as well -- but that she would be the one actively pursuing people and bringing them in.

Strangely enough, that was actually me bringing the people in and Rachel was the photog. So it worked; It was awesome. You could detach yourself from the Race a bit and you were kind of integrated into the locals.

Reality TV World: Earlier in the season you made a pact with Art and J.J. to U-Turn Rachel and Brendon if you got to the Double U-Turn board before the two guys, however, you ended up deciding not to U-Turn anybody. Could you talk a little bit more about what went into your decision there, was there anyone you were considering U-Turning for any reason?

Dave Brown: No it was again, just completely -- it was a logical decision versus an emotional decision. And for whatever reason, J.J. especially, became very emotionally invested in every other team, and they lost focus. I think in some respects, that benefited Rachel and I.

I think at one point, we still had an alliance with Art and J.J., but I could see their over-confidence and arrogance bleeding into their team cohesiveness and leading into their demise. And that was the opportunity when Rachel and I became more cohesive as a team, and I think that's kind of what distinguished Rachel and I and made us more successful towards the later phases of the Race.

Rachel Brown: It was weird. We thought the explanation of, "Oh well the teachers were so far behind that it didn't make sense to use it" would be enough. We didn't realize that J.J. would be so mad at us.

Reality TV World: Yes, they did seem extremely mad at you guys to the point where they felt like you guys had betrayed them. So did you two and Art and J.J. ever solve your issues or talk things out after that U-Turn moment or did they continue to have hard feelings towards you after that?

Dave Brown: Actually the first opportunity, and I attempted to speak to J.J. a few times -- and Art too -- but if you noticed in last night's episode, I think that's the first time when I extended my hand for a handshake and it was the first time they actually reciprocated any conversation.

And so, Art was pretty amicable and we spoke at the Bollywood challenge, but again, you would assume that -- especially if you are these federal agents and law enforcement agents or border patrol -- that they would appreciate logic over emotion. But for some reason, that emotional investment, it just skewed their perception.

Reality TV World: Art and J.J. said Rachel and Brendon didn't deserve to be in the Race because they were just followers and had no real racing skills. What did you think about that team being in the finale? Did you think they deserved to be there and what were your thoughts on the team as a whole? Because they were involved in a lot of drama throughout the season.

Rachel Brown: (Laughs) Yes they were. They were actually great people. We got to talk to them a lot at the airports, and when we saw the show, we didn't realize that Rachel had cried so much and been so emotional.

So it was a little bit of a surprise to us that she was like that. So yeah, we got along with them really well, especially after Art and J.J. got so mad at us, because then Rachel and Brendon really wanted to befriend us for not U-Turning them.

Reality TV World: In past The Amazing Race seasons, most teams normally prepared for a task in the finale that would test their knowledge and memory of the prior legs. How much studying had you two done before that final leg or throughout the Race in general, and were you surprised you didn't end up getting a task like that? 

Dave Brown: Yeah, actually Rachel and I were expecting it to such an extent where we would track every stage of the Race. We had everything written down in a small notebook we would carry in the "manny-pack" as we would refer to it, because I would have to wear it. (Laughs)

So yeah, we were completely expecting a memory-based challenge that kind of reflected back on your experiences in the Race, but it didn't happen. But we were definitely prepared for it.

Reality TV World: Art and J.J. suspected that Nary and Jamie weren't actually kindergarten teachers and they proved to be right in the end. What were your thoughts on that when you found out their real professions and do you think it made sense for them to pull off that cover story or do you think had you known what they actually did for a living, it wouldn't have made a difference and you wouldn't have been any more intimidated by them?

Rachel Brown: Yeah, we thought it was strange that they had lied. I mean, if they would have come in first or been one of the top teams, then maybe it would have made more sense because they would've seemed like a bigger threat as federal agents. But since they weren't the head of the pack, it didn't really make any sense at all. (Laughs)

Dave Brown: It would take a pretty impressive profession to intimidate me and Rachel and I are both results, production-oriented people, and they didn't produce. You could have legitimately been a kindergarten teacher and if you're producing results and you're winning legs, then yeah, we're going to perceive you as a threat. But it was never produced.

Reality TV World: Would you two ever consider doing an all-stars edition of the Race if given the opportunity?

Rachel Brown: Oh, that would be awesome! I would love to do that. Some people last night were talking about that -- having all the teams who had won the show -- and yeah, I think that would be the ultimate challenge.

Reality TV World: How were you cast on The Amazing Race and was it your first time applying for the show?

Dave Brown: Yeah, it was our first time applying. I was actually in Iraq at the time and Rachel and I have been avid fans of the show for quite some time, and we met in Sydney Australia of all places for my R & R [leave] from Iraq.

And she brought out two printed applications. We actually bought a bottle of wine and I probably had some vodka and we filled them out and submitted it, and then they contacted us shortly thereafter.

Reality TV World: Obviously you two ended up winning the show, but while you racing, who did you consider to be your biggest competition and why?

Rachel Brown: In the very beginning, we thought that Art and J.J. were definitely our biggest competition. They just seemed really smart, put together, they had some good experience in their background.

Dave Brown: Well, I think actually that Rachel and I had the opportunity throughout the application/interview process in L.A. -- they were part of our initial interviews, Art and J.J. -- and from the start, I knew that they would definitely possibly pose as a threat to Rachel and I, because they didn't seem to be there for any other reason.

They were there to win. They were focused and determined, as Rachel and I were, and they didn't have any ulterior motives. I assumed they weren't drama-oriented, but as we've all seen, that's not necessarily the case. (Laughs)

Reality TV World: You started off very strong in the beginning of the Race during the first couple of legs, but then you kind of hit a bump in the next few legs -- finishing sixth, second and fifth in the third, fourth and fifth legs respectively -- I believe. So did you two make some adjustments after those few legs and maybe that's why you finished almost every leg afterwards in first place, or do you think you just kind of hit a patch of bad luck in the middle there?

Rachel Brown: I think the biggest thing is that we made impulsive decisions, so we didn't even read through the entire clue when it said, "harps or watermelon." We kind of just said, "Okay let's do watermelons!"

And after that, we said, "Alright, we are going to take the extra minute to actually read very-detailed through each one of the clues and make sure that we choose the right option and the right person for the Roadblock."

Reality TV World: For winning eight of the season's legs, you guys clearly won a lot of trips and some cash prizes and stuff. So what are your plans for the near future? When do you plan on taking advantage of all these trips and is there an expiration date or anything like that on any of them?

Rachel Brown: I hope not! We don't know! We don't get anything until this week, so yeah, we're hoping there's not expiration dates on any of them because we both have to build up our vacation for taking so much vacation for being on the show. (Laughs)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Declive on May 10, 2012, 05:25:52 PM
Incredible how they mantained the calm when Phil told them they had skipped the Roadblock . If it happened with Rachel BB  , she would throw herself in the water  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: starrynight on May 12, 2012, 07:43:07 AM
I expect the reaction would have been a certain amount of shock whoever received that message.

But one of the things that stopped this season being classic I think is that the producers wanted to focus too much on the arguments.  They didn't have to show nearly every argument and I'm sure they haven't in some other seasons.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 14, 2012, 07:18:24 PM
CBS put up some pictures of their arrival back in Wisconsin :)

http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/photos/111216/rachel-and-dave-s-hometown-welcome/
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: ZouLy on May 18, 2012, 05:54:20 AM
CBS put up some pictures of their arrival back in Wisconsin :)

http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/photos/111216/rachel-and-dave-s-hometown-welcome/

There's more of their pictures in this guy photoalbum... maybe he's the one who took those shots?

'Amazing Race' champions return to Wisconsin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiguardpics/7154071212/)
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Prophet on May 23, 2012, 08:03:11 AM
Thanks to supah3ro for finding this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/DlG4TCmaxDY
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: supah on May 24, 2012, 12:58:12 AM
Thanks to supah3ro for finding this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/DlG4TCmaxDY

i love Davechel!!!!!!!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: David on May 24, 2012, 11:30:33 AM
I've started to be "meh" with them. It's not that hate I used to have... I obviously wanted BB to win, but that's not been possible. I think that Davechel are really competitive and such. I find them somehow arrogant thinking they have no rivals, and that they can win whatever they want (we want a 8-win record, you know...), but they are TAR fans and that is to be considered.

BUT! Rachel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on May 24, 2012, 03:39:11 PM
I haven't watch the finale but this would be the team I want to win (since the beginning I like them but across the season they went a little down for me)... but they are definitely one of my favourite teams this season.

I would take their win over teams like Rachel and Brendon and Art and JJ. If either of these two win, I might have killed myself or murdered someone. LOL. :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Best Loser on May 26, 2012, 10:13:10 AM
Apparently there was an interview with them in a recent issue of Army Times, but I guess my dad threw it away before I could read it. He said they talked about doing AARs after every leg and talked about editing/arguing.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 26, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
What is an AAR?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: TexasLady on May 26, 2012, 10:58:18 AM
After action reviews? Didn't they say something about this in one of their confessionals?
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on June 03, 2012, 01:19:01 AM
I still can't believe they won 8/12 legs. -_-

Thank goodness Bopper and Mark won Leg 8.

Awesome team Dave and Rachel is awesome team. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Jobby on June 03, 2012, 01:20:55 AM
They better not dominate :cmas28

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: Declive on May 14, 2016, 12:54:10 AM
Can't believe they split up.
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2016, 04:12:05 AM
YEARS ago!!
Title: Re: TAR 20: Dave Brown Jr and Rachel Brown *Army Couple*
Post by: maxen on May 14, 2016, 08:42:34 PM
I didn't know that  :o