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Title: Clue boxes!
Post by: Mug Costanza on October 02, 2011, 10:11:03 PM
Where have all our old reliable clue boxes gone this season? I don't think I've even seen one once this season... even on the Speed Bump sign! Are they gone for good or just for now?
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: cosmophobia on October 02, 2011, 10:21:05 PM
Where have all our old reliable clue boxes gone this season? I don't think I've even seen one once this season... even on the Speed Bump sign! Are they gone for good or just for now?

I thought the same thing!
The only one i've seen so far in this season is the one at the boat task in Taipei. All the others are gone... but I like that, having the clues delivered not in a generic way.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: BayBay on October 02, 2011, 10:30:46 PM
Yeah what was with a roadblock right after the detour?? seemed a bit TARAus to me...coulnd't be bothered to have a route info  :lol:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 03, 2011, 07:07:18 AM
No, there hasn't been a single normal cluebox this season, and I was wondering if this has something to do with a final task or if it's just a new thing. :duno: But I kind of like it.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dom on October 03, 2011, 07:35:22 AM
I figured that seeing as how the Taiwan spoiler temporarily saw a cluebox at the boat task, that they're not gone for good. I've no idea why they didn't have one for the Speed Bump though.

And also, I can't recall any other time there's been a detour inside the roadblock completion clue or vice versa. Has this ever happened before?
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 03, 2011, 07:59:38 AM
I speculated that because of the driving time from the city to the cave and then back they needed to get straight to the Detour in order to have time. Both Detour tasks relied on there being many people in the streets to contribute. If the tasks had gone on into the late evening it could have gotten more difficult.
I was surprised at the lack of RI clues myself as well.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 03, 2011, 08:24:12 AM
I am not complaining.. I'll be pleased if there's a final task based on this! :lol:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: realshowfan on October 03, 2011, 08:27:12 AM
I am not complaining.. I'll be pleased if there's a final task based on this! :lol:

What's a possibility for a final task based on clue boxes? Usually, if it's memory tasks, they'd feature the objects in question (tasks, items, greeters, etc).
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 03, 2011, 08:28:48 AM
How about putting the different clue boxes in the order they appeared?
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kiki on October 03, 2011, 10:18:32 AM
Here is the clue box from the Ep 2 RB.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/kikisak/TAR/clue.png)

It seems as if we are going back to TAR1 when all the clue boxes were something local, a box, a pouch, a vase!


Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dom on October 03, 2011, 10:33:39 AM
Here is the clue box from the Ep 2 RB.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/kikisak/TAR/clue.png)

It seems as if we are going back to TAR1 when all the clue boxes were something local, a box, a pouch, a vase!

I reckon you're spot on with that prediction! The final memory task will probably be the show's way of celebrating 10 years, a task dedicated to the pre-cluebox season, and they'll have to match the 'cluebox' with the country outline.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Cocoa on October 03, 2011, 10:53:32 AM
And also, I can't recall any other time there's been a detour inside the roadblock completion clue or vice versa. Has this ever happened before?

TARA has lots of those. :lol:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2011, 11:46:55 AM
And also, I can't recall any other time there's been a detour inside the roadblock completion clue or vice versa. Has this ever happened before?

I don't undersatnd this...what detour inside the roadblock? ???

Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kiki on October 03, 2011, 11:55:10 AM
And also, I can't recall any other time there's been a detour inside the roadblock completion clue or vice versa. Has this ever happened before?

I don't undersatnd this...what detour inside the roadblock? ???



He means to receive a clue finishing the RB that directs the teams immediately to the Detour and not to a intermediate Route info first.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 03, 2011, 11:57:44 AM
^I thought it was odd too.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: cosmophobia on October 03, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
Did you notice that the first route info of leg 2 (Taiwan departing to Indonesia) said "travel to Indonesia..." and the shape of the country appeared along the clue? I don't have the caps for that but I'm sure I sow it a couple of times.

I think THAT is going to be the final memory task.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 03, 2011, 03:10:32 PM
Did you notice that the first route info of leg 2 (Taiwan departing to Indonesia) said "travel to Indonesia..." and the shape of the country appeared along the clue? I don't have the caps for that but I'm sure I sow it a couple of times.

I think THAT is going to be the final memory task.

Slowhatch agrees with you!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25525.msg668404.html#msg668404
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Marklouiekpopsuju13 on October 03, 2011, 07:48:19 PM
Another New Twist For the First Ever No Clue Box Seen in Leg 1&Leg2
Speedbump has another look
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Marklouiekpopsuju13 on October 03, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
No Clue Box for this Season...
another Look for speedbump
A New Amazing Race...... :lol3:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Mug Costanza on October 03, 2011, 08:42:25 PM
Did you notice that the first route info of leg 2 (Taiwan departing to Indonesia) said "travel to Indonesia..." and the shape of the country appeared along the clue? I don't have the caps for that but I'm sure I sow it a couple of times.

I think THAT is going to be the final memory task.

I HOPE that's the memory task! I loved the task from two seasons ago where they had to identify which country was Ghana on a map of Africa.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Caelestor on October 03, 2011, 10:26:54 PM
It costs money to ship these large and bulky clue boxes around; I find it interesting that there has been absolutely no clue box so far (and it may be like that for the rest of the season). Also, there's probably going to be a memory task relating to all of these culture-themed clue holders (every leg will likely have one).

Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Marklouiekpopsuju13 on October 08, 2011, 03:37:59 AM
they celebrating 10 years .which I think the amazing race Flashback surprise!!!!!!!!!!!
they not use a clue box. What  for Double U-turn? a triple U-turn Impossible
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 08, 2011, 12:23:30 PM
I really doubt the absence of clue boxes are a cost saving measure. It's something else, and the observation and memory needed for a final task seems the best bet.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2011, 01:17:24 PM
I think they are just taking a brief holiday...they'll be back! :tup:

Love the creativity this time though, and the "let's make them think" clues given to the racers.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kevin2012 on October 09, 2011, 10:18:05 AM
I wonder if the Amazing Race team read all the complaints fan have and decided to act upon all of them? That would be a first. I mean no cluebox (reverting to TAR1's ways), and cryptic clues
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Katarzyna on October 10, 2011, 02:38:32 AM
I kinda like it. And maybe it could be part of the final memory challenge. I would love to see more dramatic and flamboyant "clue boxes" in the upcoming legs. Maybe in Thailand, the elephant will hand it to them.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on October 10, 2011, 03:24:38 AM
i love how they put the speed bump/hazard clue on the sign
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 10, 2011, 07:02:48 AM
(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/de5qhx.jpg)

(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/15zlhlj.jpg)

(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/34si3x1.jpg)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hmmmmmmmm. Anyone wanna bet that this won't be part of the last memory challenge? :neener:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kiki on October 10, 2011, 09:04:01 AM
I was planning to do the same thing as you Joab :lol:

Here is another picture of the box before it was opened.
(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/kikisak/TAR/cluebox3.png)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 10, 2011, 09:06:16 AM
Every time I see another one of these different clue boxes, I believe that there will be a memory challenge involving them.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: realshowfan on October 10, 2011, 09:09:02 AM
Love it! If only there was some explanation on these things. I'm really looking forward to the rest of them clue 'containers' though, especially those out of my home continent! =D
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kiki on October 10, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
My theory is that they will be asked as the finally memory task to match the maps of each country that they have on their route info with the "clueboxes" and place them in order per leg.
Unless of course I'm imagining too devious things and these "clueboxes" are nothing more than a tribute to TAR 1 where they used similar items.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dom on October 10, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
My theory is that they will be asked as the finally memory task to match the maps of each country that they have on their route info with the "clueboxes" and place them in order per leg.
Unless of course I'm imagining too devious things and these "clueboxes" are nothing more than a tribute to TAR 1 where they used similar items.

I agree, all the signs point towards this. The country outlines would be easy to match up to the country names, and the clueboxes would be pretty easy to match up with the legs and therefore countries. But matching the two will certainly be a devious challenge! (Not for us obviously, but for the teams!)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 10, 2011, 09:41:25 AM
Or an easier task... photos of all the "special clueboxes" will be shown to them.. and they will have to choose them from a series of photos (fake ones involved) and then arrange them according to the legs in which they have appeared.

The 3 which I've shown are just too obvious. I haven't spot any others... are there anymore? On Leg 1's dragonboat task... they retrieved a clue from a man's pocket/sling pouch... don't know if that counted. But the rest definitely weren't "special"
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kiki on October 10, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
This is the one you are talking about Joab. The drummer at the dragon boats

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/kikisak/TAR/clue1.png)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 11, 2011, 04:48:56 AM
Yep! I like the interesting ways they're retrieving their clues man! But harder for people to spot TAR now... no conventional clueboxes!! :groan:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dom on October 11, 2011, 06:03:02 AM
I wonder why our dragon boat spotter saw them putting out a cluebox the day before shooting?
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: David on October 11, 2011, 07:05:46 AM
I really LOVED the original clue-boxes. Just because each time I go on a trip or go to cities when TAR is being filmed, my target is to find one of thos green boxes. I just love them. I'm somehow obsessed.

This means its end, and I do not like the change at all. I just hope this is a final memory challenge-thing instead of the death of the clueboxes...
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2011, 08:54:21 AM
I wonder why our dragon boat spotter saw them putting out a cluebox the day before shooting?

First 2 were taken during set up; maybe they were still deciding?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2019/Dragon%20Boats/9b18146c.png)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2019/Dragon%20Boats/44dbfd6a.jpg)

Clue in action

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2019/Dragon%20Boats/1a76ca2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Coutzy on October 11, 2011, 09:45:05 AM
Yep! I like the interesting ways they're retrieving their clues man! But harder for people to spot TAR now... no conventional clueboxes!! :groan:

I don't think the unusual clueboxes are a response to TAR spotting. The clueboxes are kept covered up unless a team is in the near vicinity, so that's not their concern, I think.

Besides, the frantic Americans with a cameraman and sound guy are much easier to identify than a green box.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 11, 2011, 12:33:20 PM
Yep! I like the interesting ways they're retrieving their clues man! But harder for people to spot TAR now... no conventional clueboxes!! :groan:

I don't think the unusual clueboxes are a response to TAR spotting. The clueboxes are kept covered up unless a team is in the near vicinity, so that's not their concern, I think.

Besides, the frantic Americans with a cameraman and sound guy are much easier to identify than a green box.

I know... I'm just saying one lesser means of really confirming a location. There used to be places/locations with clueboxes and we definitely know those places were visited. :(
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 11, 2011, 05:22:40 PM
Clueboxes are never put out more than 30 min or so before a team arrives to prevent sightings or interference, so a cluebox sighting is usually just pure luck.

Production is informed that teams are on the way...clue box is put out or uncovered, clues are inserted.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 16, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
(http://i55.[banned image hosting site].com/35cprmu.jpg)

 :lol:

TAR's much more fun each week for the spotting of these clues!!!!!! :neener:

Not really a "cluebox" but this is counted as a clue!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 16, 2011, 09:27:58 PM
The first clue was on something different as usual. It was a sort of metal barrel.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 16, 2011, 09:57:34 PM
The first clue was on something different as usual. It was a sort of metal barrel.

Oh yea. I was about to take a photo of that too! LOL!... coming up!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 16, 2011, 09:59:57 PM
I don't know.. this just doesn't seem as special.. but I guess it's counted.. lol!

(http://i54.[banned image hosting site].com/1fadfc.jpg)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2011, 11:36:03 PM
The Bird's Nest "clue box" may just be my most favorite one EVER!!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 18, 2011, 03:34:29 PM
It's going to be interesting how this play out in the finale final challenge. <3
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on October 19, 2011, 02:59:31 AM
I really LOVED the original clue-boxes. Just because each time I go on a trip or go to cities when TAR is being filmed, my target is to find one of thos green boxes.

the boxes red and yellow

It's going to be interesting how this play out in the finale final challenge. <3

agreed
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: David on October 19, 2011, 03:15:14 AM
I really LOVED the original clue-boxes. Just because each time I go on a trip or go to cities when TAR is being filmed, my target is to find one of thos green boxes.

the boxes red and yellow

Technically, the boxes ARE green. Then, they have an attached yellow and red flag, but the box itself is green. :)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on October 19, 2011, 04:54:49 AM
wait
notice how every leg teams are given a object instaed of a clue mabey this will be the final 3 rembering task
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Mug Costanza on October 19, 2011, 01:08:17 PM
wait
notice how every leg teams are given a object instaed of a clue mabey this will be the final 3 rembering task

Yep, that's a popular theory in this thread. :)

Side note: They really emphasized this week that the outline of Thailand was prominently featured in the first clue. This makes me even more sure that country shapes will also play into a Final 3 challenge.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on October 20, 2011, 06:33:51 AM
wait
notice how every leg teams are given a object instaed of a clue mabey this will be the final 3 rembering task

Yep, that's a popular theory in this thread. :)

Side note: They really emphasized this week that the outline of Thailand was prominently featured in the first clue. This makes me even more sure that country shapes will also play into a Final 3 challenge.

or maybe there is always someone at or near the pit stop that could be used as the final task

leg 1: guards at pitstop
leg 2 : kids at orphage
leg 3 eliphant
leg 4 vilage locals
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2011, 09:11:04 AM
wait
notice how every leg teams are given a object instaed of a clue mabey this will be the final 3 rembering task

Yep, that's a popular theory in this thread. :)

Side note: They really emphasized this week that the outline of Thailand was prominently featured in the first clue. This makes me even more sure that country shapes will also play into a Final 3 challenge.

Oh.. I remember that too!! I was wondering why keep showing us the shape of Thailand??
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: David on October 20, 2011, 10:58:11 AM
It also happened in Taiwan (I think) and Indonesia (for sure), the shape thing.

OMG. I would depserately love a 2-hour finale with 3 or 4 different harsh memory tasks: fake clue boxes, people, country shapes and objects. That'd rock the season.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2011, 11:57:15 AM
I looked through the first leg, I didn't really see a map.

(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/24ywe2u.jpg)

This did happen in Leg 2, where they showed the map of Indonesia twice. When Ernie and Cindy left the pitstop in first place and Bill and Cathi left the pitstop in Taiwan in last place.

Kind of weird they didn't show it when they flew to Taiwan... or is it just me?

Or are we just thinking too much? :lol: :neener:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 20, 2011, 11:59:25 AM
Neobie found one!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25525.msg668765.html#msg668765
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2011, 12:06:07 PM
So maybe they will do a recap and tell us readers that they have been shown the maps of every country prior to the start of each leg.

Now... TAR, you are putting 2 very ingenious thing into one season and I could hardly take the excitement.

Why didn't you do this for TAR 16 or TAR 18? :lol: :neener:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dom on October 20, 2011, 12:11:28 PM
So maybe they will do a recap and tell us readers that they have been shown the maps of every country prior to the start of each leg.

Now... TAR, you are putting 2 very ingenious thing into one season and I could hardly take the excitement.

Why didn't you do this for TAR 16 or TAR 18? :lol: :neener:

I don't think they'd ever try something like this for an all-star. Purely because having run the race and then watched it all back on TV, past racers will know exactly what to look out for on their second attempt. I think a past racer would see something like the country outline and immediately begin noting it.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2011, 12:21:37 PM
So maybe they will do a recap and tell us readers that they have been shown the maps of every country prior to the start of each leg.

Now... TAR, you are putting 2 very ingenious thing into one season and I could hardly take the excitement.

Why didn't you do this for TAR 16 or TAR 18? :lol: :neener:

I don't think they'd ever try something like this for an all-star. Purely because having run the race and then watched it all back on TV, past racers will know exactly what to look out for on their second attempt. I think a past racer would see something like the country outline and immediately begin noting it.

I don't know if it's just me... but I don't think so... it's so subtle! :lol:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 23, 2011, 08:44:14 PM
This week we saw two non clueboxes! The bucket and that basket with the cloth in it.

I tend to think they are making a concerted effort to not use them anymore. For a final task they could just throw one in, but they go to lengths to avoid any of them. Like when the Speed Bump and Hazard clues were just lying around.

I'm not saying it can't be a final task but I do think production is purposely moving towards using local items besides that.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 23, 2011, 08:57:01 PM
We saw so many non-clueboxes this leg I don't even know which one to take note of. :lol:

We have a really random one in the basket at the First RB.

Then we have another one which is the Koi Fish.. which literally contained a clue, right?

Then when teams completed the RB, they presented the clue to them on a tray designed with red cloth with clues....

It's so confusing. :lol: So certainly, the "special clue" this leg is as unplanned as the leg itself.

But if you ask me, I will guess the "Koi Fish" they had to break for the clue will be a final task challenge item should there be one.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Best Loser on October 23, 2011, 10:07:55 PM
I think it will be the both clue boxes and items, but maybe even costumes.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kiki on October 24, 2011, 06:56:29 AM
Episode 5 clue boxes

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/kikisak/TAR/bucket.png)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/kikisak/TAR/fish.png)

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x449/kikisak/TAR/basket.png)

The cloth parcels in the last one actually hold the fish food they have to feed the fish in Bangkok.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Cocoa on October 24, 2011, 08:41:17 AM
I think its the "cluebox" at the Temple (before the 2nd RB) because it looks more grandiose than the bucket (before the 1st RB).
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 24, 2011, 09:01:37 AM
I think it's both the fish food and the koi fish which they have to break?
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 25, 2011, 09:00:43 AM
i hope the cluebox come back
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 25, 2011, 09:09:17 AM
i hope the cluebox come back

It will. :)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Mug Costanza on October 30, 2011, 01:11:11 PM
Sorry if this has already been said, but for the last few legs (at least; maybe all season) at the Pit Stops, they haven't been using that silver sign that stands next to/behind Phil and the greeter with the city/country name and world map on it.

I feel like so much has changed this season. I'm not one to oppose change, especially when it makes the show better, but this season just feels completely different than any other one, and I'm having a hard time really getting into this season. The tasks just seem so much easier compared to past seasons; this whole season, I've felt like I've been watching Amazing Race: Asia. Not to completely derail this discussion, but does anyone else feel the same way? Maybe things will change tonight when they get to Africa, but I feel like a super-fan like me (and all of us, really!) shouldn't have this much difficulty getting into this season.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 30, 2011, 01:14:56 PM
Well, the last leg was clearly last minute because of complications with another location, but I don't think all the tasks have been that way. I thought the first Thailand Detour was very challenging, both mentally and physically. The Roadblock wasn't much, though. The second Indonesian Roadblock was mentally wearing. The Detour from that leg was physically taxing. The first and second legs weren't super hard, but one can't expect those legs to be that hard.

The last leg really did leave a sour taste in my mouth, though, and I hope tonight's episode is better. :tup:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on October 30, 2011, 01:43:41 PM
I miss that Cluebox at the Pitstop showing the country's name. I think they shouldn't remove that... :'( :(
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Mug Costanza on October 30, 2011, 01:45:23 PM
Well, the last leg was clearly last minute because of complications with another location

I haven't read any of the spoilers this year. Is this actually true?
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on October 30, 2011, 01:49:51 PM
Well, the last leg was clearly last minute because of complications with another location

I haven't read any of the spoilers this year. Is this actually true?

Yes, but no one knows where it was. Phil just said there were complications. :duno:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 30, 2011, 02:24:22 PM
Quote
Sorry if this has already been said, but for the last few legs (at least; maybe all season) at the Pit Stops, they haven't been using that silver sign that stands next to/behind Phil and the greeter with the city/country name and world map on it.

I had noticed that during the first Indonesia leg, and went back and found it had been missing in Taiwan as well.

Mug Costanza, Phil had sent out a Tweet after filming was completed and before the season began to air that there had been a sudden last minute change for some reason that required TPTB to completely change a destination on less than 24 hours' notice. The speculation has been that Thailand was the substitute for the unknown original country, and the timeline reconstruction appears to support that speculation.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: tarflyonthewall on November 07, 2011, 08:26:51 PM
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Mug Costanza, Phil had sent out a Tweet after filming was completed and before the season began to air that there had been a sudden last minute change for some reason that required TPTB to completely change a destination on less than 24 hours' notice. The speculation has been that Thailand was the substitute for the unknown original country, and the timeline reconstruction appears to support that speculation.

The last few seasons they've been deliberately revisiting locations that have had absolute stinkers of legs in the past: TAR15 in Dubai after TAR5; TAR16 in Puerto Varas after Puerto Montt in TAR11, Bariloche after TAR5, Singapore after TAR3, San Francisco after TAR11; TAR17 in St. Petersburg after TAR5, Oman after TAR9 (which won an Emmy, yes, but can hardly be called a "good" leg), Hong Kong after TAR11, Seoul after TAR4; TAR18 in Tokyo after both TAR9 and TAR15, Salzburg after TAR14, Rio after a culture-free TAR2 leg...

Given just how terribly the TAR14 leg turned out - didn't showcase the city well at all, had that awful animal-cruelty-promoting zoo task, AND had a contestant collapse - it's not surprising they wanted to show it in a better light.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: theamazingracer21 on November 09, 2011, 12:09:26 AM

I had noticed that during the first Indonesia leg, and went back and found it had been missing in Taiwan as well.

Mug Costanza, Phil had sent out a Tweet after filming was completed and before the season began to air that there had been a sudden last minute change for some reason that required TPTB to completely change a destination on less than 24 hours' notice. The speculation has been that Thailand was the substitute for the unknown original country, and the timeline reconstruction appears to support that speculation.

maybe brunei or the philapeens or burma

but on the upside with the thai leg from tar 14 is that their was a unaired ff with charirty
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on November 20, 2011, 08:36:27 PM
So what's with the cluebox at the Hamburg train station? ???
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 20, 2011, 08:51:59 PM
i hope the cluebox come back

It will. :)
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: dryedmangoez on November 21, 2011, 12:52:57 AM
So what's with the cluebox at the Hamburg train station? ???
Was that the very first cluebox of TAR19!?

I was like WOAH! What's that green thing with the flag!?  :noway:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2011, 11:53:48 AM
It was very scary to see, bet the teams were just as scared
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on November 21, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
It was very scary to see, bet the teams were just as scared

I was scared. :lol:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dånooky on November 21, 2011, 12:38:37 PM
OK, I have a new theory for the final task: they will have to match the clue holders with the outlines of he countries they visited. I believe Germany had a cluebox because when they got their clue to get there, it was a picture with no map unlike the others.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: dryedmangoez on November 21, 2011, 05:32:13 PM
(http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx9/xangatheamazingracecaps3/The%20Amazing%20Race%2019/Episode%209/TAR1909-00227.jpg)
So strange!  What an odd thing.  But it is nice TAR is trying new things. 
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on November 22, 2011, 11:36:55 AM
OK, I have a new theory for the final task: they will have to match the clue holders with the outlines of he countries they visited. I believe Germany had a cluebox because when they got their clue to get there, it was a picture with no map unlike the others.

I believe the cluebox "marks a new country" and agree with your theory... I think the outline of the country will come into play.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on December 05, 2011, 04:16:41 AM
This... obviously didn't work out as the final leg challenge. :lol:

Overthinking by us.. but hey, we gave the producers a good idea for final leg tasks! :lol:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: kiki on December 05, 2011, 04:32:37 AM
Pity though! It would be amazing if they had to match the shape of the country with the "cluebox" or "clueholder". Much more difficult!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dom on December 05, 2011, 04:50:49 AM
 :lol: So either WRP were reading this thread and thinking 'Oh yeah...' or they were trying to deliberately mislead the racers! It can be all too easy sometimes to predict what the final challenge will be, and this is the only time I've been convinced it's something that it wasn't.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 05, 2011, 06:06:23 AM
:lol: So either WRP were reading this thread and thinking 'Oh yeah...' or they were trying to deliberately mislead the racers! It can be all too easy sometimes to predict what the final challenge will be, and this is the only time I've been convinced it's something that it wasn't.

I'll have to go with deliberately misleading the racers because the race was long over by the time we saw the episodes and started brainstorming about the various clue boxes and the country outlines on the clues. I was completely fooled as well. I thought the final challenge would surely involve the clue boxes though I probably should have rethought that when the old traditional clue box started to make a few appearances.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Dom on December 05, 2011, 06:10:35 AM
Literally the only thing that left me with a shred of doubt about the final task was the confirmation from our Taiwan spotter that he saw production testing a cluebox in place of the drum/pouch man at the Dragon Boat task. Other than that, I was completely convinced.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: tarflyonthewall on December 09, 2011, 12:34:05 AM
The country outlines are still right, though, just not necessarily in the way we expected.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on December 09, 2011, 05:03:54 AM
Now we know where they get their idea from if we got a cluebox challenge in future. :cmaslol
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: David on December 18, 2011, 10:01:57 AM
So, it seems that Clue-Boxes had nothing to do for the Final Task, but country shapes did! The map thing can be easier if teams took all that into account!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 18, 2011, 10:08:01 AM
Pity though! It would be amazing if they had to match the shape of the country with the "cluebox" or "clueholder". Much more difficult!

This is what I was hoping for, and it would've been the most difficult challenge since that TAR12 one!

The route map memory challenge was pretty aweful for my taste. Only the TAR16 Memory CHallenge was more boring, in my opinion. Even though I LOVE memory challenges, if they aren't going to come up with inventive and difficult memory challenges, I'd prefer no memory challenges at all. The TAR15 poker chips and the TAR18 mobile home was more interesting than this TAR19 route map, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 18, 2011, 10:14:57 AM
heee,I asked some of the racers what they would have thought of a match the clue box to the country challenge...they thought it would be awesome and that they would have been SCREWED!! :lol:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 18, 2011, 10:22:10 AM
heee,I asked some of the racers what they would have thought of a match the clue box to the country challenge...they thought it would be awesome and that they would have been SCREWED!! :lol:

It would've been so much fun to see, and the finale might've been really close! I'm usually very good with memory challenges and memory games, but my memory of the clueboxes isn't very good at all! :cmaslol
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Flamant on December 18, 2011, 11:18:32 AM
They should just do a TAR12/14 final task each season. They are hard and there's the possibility to make variations so that they could be different each time.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: David on December 18, 2011, 11:21:07 AM
YAY! TAR 12 finale task was the most awesome one ever, along with TAR9 (I wouldn't have included that many hints) and TAR14.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Mug Costanza on December 18, 2011, 01:13:12 PM
I think I'm in the minority of people who liked the TAR16 task, but mostly because they had to lug the chest through the streets of San Francisco. :hearts:
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 19, 2011, 07:37:40 AM
They should just do a TAR12/14 final task each season. They are hard and there's the possibility to make variations so that they could be different each time.

I definitely agree with this comment! Those tasks were really difficult, and it allowed teams to catch up (even though I would've been much, much happier if Christina and Luke had maintained their leads). :cmas16

Another great one I have to mention is the TAR17 task - it was so unexpected and absolutely perfect! Obviously they won't re-use that anytime soon, but in many years time, they might be able to create a similar (although slightly different) type of challenge? :cmas5
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Flamant on December 19, 2011, 12:39:09 PM
Another great one I have to mention is the TAR17 task - it was so unexpected and absolutely perfect! Obviously they won't re-use that anytime soon, but in many years time, they might be able to create a similar (although slightly different) type of challenge? :cmas5

OMG. They need to do a field of disguised people, and find the correct one represeting the greeters. The people would not have exactly the same height/shape so that it could be a bit more difficult.
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 19, 2011, 08:51:25 PM
Another great one I have to mention is the TAR17 task - it was so unexpected and absolutely perfect! Obviously they won't re-use that anytime soon, but in many years time, they might be able to create a similar (although slightly different) type of challenge? :cmas5

OMG. They need to do a field of disguised people, and find the correct one represeting the greeters. The people would not have exactly the same height/shape so that it could be a bit more difficult.

Oh, that would be PERFECT!!! :cmas16
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: ZouLy on December 20, 2011, 05:56:58 AM
Here is the Compilation of Clue Boxes and what's Unique from Season 19 of The Amazing Race

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture1.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture2.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture3.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture4.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture5.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture6.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture7.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff397/farhan_zouly/Picture8.jpg)


Sorry if there's some missing..  :cmas22
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Prophet on December 20, 2011, 11:17:36 AM
Great work Zouly!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 21, 2011, 08:04:52 AM
Great work Zouly!

Yeah, that's an absolutely spectacular summary! :cmas16
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 22, 2011, 03:58:27 AM
Oh I am SO glad to have this all together!! Thank you for doing this!

I watched the MAP challenge being built, which was awesome...but I was a little sad to realize no match the cluebox challenge was in store for us...

Still these were wonderfully creative, I hope they kept it up this season!!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: Jobby on December 22, 2011, 04:06:27 AM
Thanks for the compilation!
Title: Re: Clue boxes!
Post by: ZouLy on December 22, 2011, 05:39:31 AM
Yupz, hopefully they'll bring back all these creative ideas in the next season...  :trampb: