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Title: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on May 30, 2011, 03:46:30 AM

EP04/EP05: Macau to Port Elizabeth (via Johanessburg) AND Cape Town
EVIDENCE: Sighting at Macau airport Source 1 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572216.html#msg572216) Source 2 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572728.html#msg572728) Source 3 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572711.html#msg572711) Facebook post Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572923.html#msg572923)
Film Dates: 12 - 16 NOV
Air Dates: 6 June

Leg Route/Tasks:
ROUTE INFO: Make your way to Johanessburg? or Port Elizabeth?
Yellow team went via Bangkok at 2:10PM
Some/All the other teams went via KL at 5:00PM

EVIDENCE: Sighting at Macau airport Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572216.html#msg572216)

DETOUR: Dancing with the locals? OR Build a giraffe feeder?
EVIDENCE: Promo with C/A dancing with locals and TV Guide

ROUTE INFO: Drag a goat?
EVIDENCE: Promos and Review

ROADBLOCK: Bungee at Bloukrans Bridge
EVIDENCE: Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg573301.html#msg573301) and Promos

ROUTE INFO : Ride quad bikes at atlantis sand dunes near Cape Town
Evidence: Twitter reply to Caper Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572976.html#msg572976), Promos

TASK: Skydiving
EVIDENCE: Promos

ROUTE INFO: Make your way to Cape Town
EVIDENCE: Facebook post Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572923.html#msg572923)

INTERSECTION: V&A Waterfront in Cape Town
EVIDENCE: Photo Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg574033.html#msg574033)

DETOUR: Wine OR Shoot
EVIDENCE: Promos and TARI

PITSTOP: Make your way to the Pitstop, Rhodes Memorial
Credit to Caper
EVIDENCE: Facebook posts from bystanders, Picture of Grant at the Pitstop Source 1 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572923.html#msg572923) Source 2 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572965.html#msg572965) Source 3 (http://yfrog.com/izdwosj)

Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:
   
Possibly Eliminated (in South Africa):

Eliminated:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on May 30, 2011, 03:47:56 AM
Next Time on TARAus:

- Richard and Joey get their car stuck in the mud
- RB: Bungee jumping
- Team gets pulled over by the police

We have an intersection in Cape Town so we are assuming Jo'berg - Leg 4 (Elimination) and Cape Town - Leg 5 (Elimination OR NEL OR TBC?)

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TV GUIDE: The remaining nine teams scale great heights to face their greatest fears in South Africa. While some teams revel in African traditions, others struggle when it comes time to feed the giraffes.


Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on May 30, 2011, 03:48:46 AM
Promos - Credits to Coutzy


Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 30, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
Dave and Kell have been seen in armoured gear.

Teams spotted in Europe:
Sam/Renae
Nathan/Tyler
Matt/Tom
Dave/Kelly
Chris/Anastasia

Teams in South Africa (2 will be ELIMINATED, 2 will be safe to Europe)
Mel/Alana
Mo/Mos
Jeff/Luke
Richard/Joey

Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: tarflyonthewall on May 31, 2011, 12:42:22 AM
Do we know two will be booted? Couldn't the second South Africa leg be a NEL?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2011, 01:02:37 AM
I beg your pardon, there is a possiblility that the second leg in S.A could be a Non-Elimination, only a hunch atm
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Aussie on May 31, 2011, 01:07:50 AM
Jeff/Luke are safe. They have been seen in the promos wearing the knight costumes in Europe ;D
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on May 31, 2011, 10:09:02 PM
A few bits from the TV guide-

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The remaining nine teams face their fears in South Africa. While some of them revel in African traditions, others struggle to deal with the challenges including feeding giraffes. Another couple finds themselves on the wrong side of the law, while Richard and Joey's ruthless determination threatens to be their downfall.

And a longer piece on Richard and Joey & this episode by Dianne Butler

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So Richard and Joey are the team to beat on Amazing Race. That's according to Richard and Joey, because they shaved their hair off last week.
I don't know that it's going to be very effective.
The other contestants don't seem remotely threatened.
Apparently "nobody" likes Richard and Joey.
Alana and Mel? I think it was them - the sisters - who said it. The marvellous thing about this show of course is we, and Richard and Joey, don't have to wait long for Alana and Mel to look like idiots themselves.
All it takes is a manual gear shift. How many people have come unstuck by one of those?
Hard to believe, really. You don't often see two people driving the same vehicle.
But at least it's a reasonably sensible challenge. Some of the ones tonight (Monday) are completely inane.
Building a giraffe feeder. Dragging a goat. (Tyler and Nathan's approach: "We just took the bull by the horns and dragged the thing up there.")
The contestants are in South Africa, by the way. They left Macau and made their way, by various routes, to a carpark in Port Elizabeth where there's a car waiting.
I realise that sounds easy, locating a car in a carpark, but you saw that episode of Seinfeld where nobody can remember where Dramer parked his car - and Elaine's goldfish either dies or almost dies and George does a wee in the carpark and I think Jerry might too and it's all very, very bad.
Kramer bought an air conditioner and has to cart it around while they try to find his car. And this is more or less - though not really - how Amazing Race starts tonight (Monday). Do the farmers always get banjo music when they appear on screen?
Maybe I'm only noticing it now for the first time. It's a nice touch. Makes me want to see Deliverance again.

The Amazing Race
Channel 7, 8:30 PM
Three Stars


Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 01, 2011, 12:06:39 AM
Promos


Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: tarflyonthewall on June 01, 2011, 12:55:57 AM
It's worth noting, though, that Dianne Butler is a twat. Her "reviews" usually consist of extended tangents having absolutely nothing to do with the show, to the point where you wonder whether she even saw the episode she's supposed to be talking about at ALL. Believe it or not, that Seinfeld rant is actually one of her shorter efforts. Since she's first and foremost a gossip columnist (who in person makes Dave & Kelly seem classy), it's a bit like New York Times readers having Will Shortz writing about baseball.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 02, 2011, 05:01:03 PM
Looks like wine or shoot is this week and drag a goat and giraffe feeder are the active route markers?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 02, 2011, 05:03:01 PM
EVIDENCE: Chris and Ana promo with wine all over the floor :lol3:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Prophet on June 02, 2011, 05:13:41 PM
Interesting...some aired Pit Stop check-ins. Though it looks Mo and Mos have some sort of penalty. :lol:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 02, 2011, 07:47:22 PM
Where is the Chris and Ana promo please??

And why are the Mo/Mos back in dinner jackets and Mel in a wedding type dress? ???
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 02, 2011, 08:00:08 PM
Those are caps from the Hong Kong/Macau leg.

Alana and Mel didn't change prior to leaving the Venetian, and it looks like Alana had time to change while Mel did the Roadblock.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 02, 2011, 08:20:34 PM
Oh, I was wondering!! :lol:

Will you be abke to get the C/A promo?? :flirt:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 02, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
Oh, I was wondering!! :lol:

Will you be abke to get the C/A promo?? :flirt:

It's not up online, so I'm afraid I can't.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 02, 2011, 08:59:16 PM
Okay, hopefully it will turn up eventusaly! In the meantime, can someone do a voice over or describe it? :please:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 03, 2011, 12:36:26 AM
Something about them fighting - shows Indonesian airport
"I swear to God, I'll stop right here"
More fighting in China
Shows a massive wooden barrel with tap - huge puddle of red liquid underneath
Chris shouting abuse
Voice over says 'will this be the end?' or something
 
You literally see 2 secs on new footage
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: tarflyonthewall on June 04, 2011, 05:58:07 AM
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Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:

    * Sam and Renae - Last seen getting off train in Europe
    * Tom and Matt - Last spotted on route to Sri Lanka
    * Nathan and Taylor - Last seen getting off train in Europe
    * Chris and Anastasia - Last seen doing crossbow task in Prague
    * David and Kelly - Last seen in Prague
    * Jeff and Luke - Last seen in Prague

   
Possibly Eliminated (in South Africa):

    * Alana and Mel - Last seen driving in South Africa
    * Richard and Joey - Last seen driving in South Africa
    * Mo and Mos - Last seen at shooting task in South Africa

Macau was warm at the time of shooting (as evidenced by all the teams who changed out of their casino outfits checking in in warm gear), and it was late spring in South Africa. Based on Alana & Mel and Richard & Joey being shown at the Hue airport in cold-weather gear (which doesn't match the outfits they were wearing upon departure from the Pit Stop or in Hong Kong and Macau), they're both safe until at least Europe. Therefore, with a known Intersection in Cape Town, Leg 4 in Port Elizabeth sees Mo & Mos get booted and Leg 5 in Cape Town is a non-elimination.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 04, 2011, 06:48:56 PM
Quote
Safe from Elimination at End of Leg:

    * Sam and Renae - Last seen getting off train in Europe
    * Tom and Matt - Last spotted on route to Sri Lanka
    * Nathan and Taylor - Last seen getting off train in Europe
    * Chris and Anastasia - Last seen doing crossbow task in Prague
    * David and Kelly - Last seen in Prague
    * Jeff and Luke - Last seen in Prague

   
Possibly Eliminated (in South Africa):

    * Alana and Mel - Last seen driving in South Africa
    * Richard and Joey - Last seen driving in South Africa
    * Mo and Mos - Last seen at shooting task in South Africa

Macau was warm at the time of shooting (as evidenced by all the teams who changed out of their casino outfits checking in in warm gear), and it was late spring in South Africa. Based on Alana & Mel and Richard & Joey being shown at the Hue airport in cold-weather gear (which doesn't match the outfits they were wearing upon departure from the Pit Stop or in Hong Kong and Macau), they're both safe until at least Europe. Therefore, with a known Intersection in Cape Town, Leg 4 in Port Elizabeth sees Mo & Mos get booted and Leg 5 in Cape Town is a non-elimination.

Wait what?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 04, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
I don't undersatnd the clothes in Hue?? What does that have to do with upcoming legs please?? ???
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Slowhatch on June 04, 2011, 09:02:16 PM
???  :duno:  :)
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 04, 2011, 09:41:10 PM
Thanks...perhaps he didn't mean Hue??
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 05, 2011, 12:48:44 AM
Thanks...perhaps he didn't mean Hue??

(http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv147/baydogg/CA.jpg)

(http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv147/baydogg/RJ.jpg)

I think he means these...however note CRUSH IT shirts and Joey's hair
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 05, 2011, 01:01:55 AM
Where were those taken?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 05, 2011, 07:05:06 AM
From Episode 3 - Hue airport shots

I believe he thinks they are from another ep...
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 05, 2011, 10:14:55 AM
I still don't get it.  :duno:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: amazing race fan on June 05, 2011, 02:47:11 PM
Has the episode been aired yet?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 05, 2011, 06:10:14 PM
I still don't get it.  :duno:

What I interpret him as saying is, that there is no reason for them to be wearing cold weather gear so these must be images from one of the European episodes shown prematurely
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 05, 2011, 07:15:29 PM
I still don't get it.  :duno:

What I interpret him as saying is, that there is no reason for them to be wearing cold weather gear so these must be images from one of the European episodes shown prematurely

Ohhhh..   light dawns. :lol:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 05, 2011, 10:58:51 PM
Chris and Ana promo online!

Chris goes crazy  (:;) because Anastasia turns on wine tap and can't turn it off

"i had to carry the barrel 0.5km"
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 05, 2011, 11:13:41 PM
Here it is:


I actually think Chris conducted himself pretty well here- He did clearly tell Anastasia to wait, and from all accounts he only yelled at her once, stopping as soon as she said not to yell. He did carry on for a while, though, but didn't yell much.

Also, Anastasia looks WAY to smug for my liking while Chris is pouring the wine into the barrel.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 05, 2011, 11:44:01 PM
OMG...conducted himself pretty well? He is a control freak! I would have dumped the bucket over his head. :lol3:

Oooh boy...between Richard nd Joey getting stuck in the mud and the wine-gate, this will be fun!! :jumpy:

Thanks for the vid!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: ovalorange on June 06, 2011, 03:18:41 AM
Mo tweeted this afternoon that himself and Mos will depart 9 HOURS after Richard and Joey in tonight's episode  :ascared
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:37:02 AM
Previously on TAR Australia... 10 teams raced to Hong Kong, blah blah blah...


Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:37:58 AM
Tonight will FBA's ruthless determination be their downfall?

Teams face their greatest fear (Bungee)

And one pair will find themselves on the wrong side of the law

9 teams remain blah blah blah

Opening credits.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:40:15 AM
Richard and Joey- First to depart     9:52 AM

Fly to Port Elizabeth, South Africa. Then search the airport carpark for a marked vehicle that contains the next clue.

Joey hopes they do something with animals, or a safari.

FBA are planning to fly via Bangkok, NAB cards plug.

Alana and Mel & "Surfers" depart at 1 PM.

Alana and Mel don't like the yellow team.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Laimis on June 06, 2011, 05:41:45 AM
is there anywhere that i can watch this online?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:42:26 AM
N&T and A&M going to Hong Kong first because there will be more flights.

Dave and Kelly and Farmers depart 1:34 PM

Kelly mentions how long they've been married, and how quick they move on if they fight.

Matt and Tom are getting banjo music ala Jet and Cord.

Sisters and Surfers arrive at Hong Kong airport.

Jeff and Luke, Chris and Anastasia and Sam and Renae depart one minute apart from each other.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:43:34 AM
Chris and Anastasia have "had their ups and downs, but have been able to control our (their) anger" :lol3:

Renae tells off a businessman looking type for cutting in line at the ferry terminal.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:44:24 AM
Mo (or is it Mos?) is seasick on the ferry to Hong Kong. Seems to be puking more than Vicki at the sushi task.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 05:45:09 AM
We have the obligatory troubles with manual transmission.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:46:10 AM
Mo and Mos have levelled with everybody except FBA at the air port.

All teams are on same flight from J'berg to Port Elizabeth

Teams must now self drive to Camdaboo National Park, then make their way to the valley of desolation.

Mel stalled the car and is grinding gears.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:46:45 AM
Alana and Mel are now both driving the car, one is steering and pedalling and the other is controlling the gearstick.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:47:28 AM
Surfers are first to clue. It's a detour.

Smash or Bash

Smash- Throw a traditional african weapon to break some pots.

Bash- Build a giraffe feeder.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:48:55 AM
Alana and Mel last to Detour start point, teams all driving back into Port Elizabeth now. General consensus seems to be going for Smash.

Park for the Detour is closed until 7 AM tomorrow.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:50:15 AM
Teams marvelling at the animals, the zebras are popular.

Richard and Joey are reaching the Bog Bogfest.

Jeff and Luke- "The first vehicle is the one that finds all the bad spots."

Richard and Joey are first vehicle and hit a heavy bump. Ad break.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:51:04 AM
is there anywhere that i can watch this online?

Not live, no.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 05:53:06 AM
Now Chris and Anastasia are bogged.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:55:46 AM
And we're back...

Plug for Gloria Jean's coffee in South Africa.

Richard and Joey are Stuck Matt almost wets himself laughing.

Alana and Mel worry it will happen to them, but aren't going to help.

Richard and Joey are stuck up to the axle.

Chris is bogged, not as badly as Richard and Joey.

Dave, Tyler and Nathan and Matt and Jom are ecstatic.

Tyler and Nathan are sick of waiting and move the trees to push forward... And get bogged, stuck in a mini lake, wheels spinning. They manage to push out with no worries. Everyone is following their path. Chris & Anastasia back up and take the new way. Everyone getting through now bar Richard and Joey.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:58:25 AM
Richard and Joey appear screwed, having to resort to digging the car out.

Surfers are at the smash task, throwing sticks and enjoying the singing around them. Jeff and Luke, Matt and Tom  Mo and Mos and Bikers arrive.

Chris and Ana building, not really sure what a giraffe feeder is, but they have a civil engineer, what could go wrong.

Sisters are building. Ana is doing gymnastics to keep the logs up.

Matt and Tom and Surfers land a hit, Mo and Mos switching to giraffe feeders. Jeff and Luke switch. Matt and Tom finish the smashing.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 05:59:18 AM
Roadblock immediately- Who wants to take the plunge?

Bungee jumping, and...

CAUTION! U-Turn ahead

Tyler and Nathan finished

Nathan- "U-Turn? Oh no..."

Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:00:18 AM
Matt and Tom choose not to U-Turn. Surfers are stressing out, but didn't need to.

Tyler and Nathan make a beeline for Richard and Joey's picture, the focus believe achievers are still bogged.

Ad break.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 06:01:06 AM
Could this be a wasted U-Turn in light of Richard and Joey still being bogged?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
Ironic ad for how great free to air TV is while I watch on my Foxtel
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: ovalorange on June 06, 2011, 06:04:09 AM
Nathan and Tyler are legends  :yess: :lol:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 06:04:54 AM
Richard and Joey: They U-Turned us because we're the best. Yeah, right.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:07:56 AM
And we're back. Weekly $5000 winner announced.

FBA are bogged still, but have a confessionall about how they didn't give up. A ranger comes and tows them out.

Joey puts on a bad accent again while she thanks him. The two are screaming like they've just won the whole thing while they drive through.

Chris and Ana are making solid progress, liked how "We made it a solid 2 person job"

Jeff and Luke have years of carpentry experience, yet for some reason they didn't choose the carpentry job first.

Chris and Ana and Jeff and Luke finish detour.

Dave takes a lot of throws before getting it.

Dave- "Who wants to take the plunge, this is going to be something I'll hate for life I'll do it."

Mo and Mos struggling to build- "We're nowhere near what a chippy should be"

The girl models doing well, claim they're alright around tools- tools with inflection.

Richard hammers his thumb, he's bleeding.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:10:35 AM
Dave: "We choose not to U-Turn anyone because its been done for us.

Alana and Mel floundering: "Sorry dad. Our dad is a builder, and my husband is a designer."

Richard and Joey arguing about how good the job has to be, however, the FBA's have left the building ahead of the sisters and the muslims.

Richard: "I think its fine, everyone is doing their own race, who would U-Turn us?"

Shock horror, they are U-Turned.

Joey: "Maybe its a compliment, we feel so threatened by them that we have to U-Turn them when we're first and their ninth."

Richard and Joey have the gall to complain about other teams using the U-Turn.

Cop is going lights and sirens, Nathan and Tyler worried about being pulled over, but its Matt and Tom instead. The surfers shoot to first place.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Aussie on June 06, 2011, 06:11:36 AM
Richard and Joey U-Turned, and probably screwed.

Matt and Tom pulled over by police, and overtaken by Nathan and Tyler.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:16:24 AM
Back from commercial. Matt isn't sure of the speed limit. Nathan: "That's heavy, so heavy bro" :res:

Apparently, the police have had complaints about the vehicle with their plates driving too fast.

Cop: "Please slow down a bit, ok?"

Alana and Mel finish the giraffe feeder. Richard and Joey have 1 hit at smash and Mo and Mos still building.

Nathan and Tyler are at the bungee in number one, Chris and Ana are number 2.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 06:16:56 AM
Richard and Joey are the only team left at the detour now.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:18:44 AM
Nathan getting kitted up, Tyler pumping him up and threatening to push him if he doesn't go. Nathan jumps, doesn't scream but has a terrified look frozen on his face. Apparently Tyler wondered if Nathan had passed out.

Teams must now drive to Nomathamsanka and take a goat to the local witch doctor for their next clue.

Richard and Joey have 1 target left to hit, Mo and Mos have finished building.

Chris jumps, screams like a little girl. Anastasia gets the giggles.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:19:42 AM
Tom jumps, does the dolphin on the way down, gives the camera a big thumbs up. Matt thinks it looked good.

Chris and Ana getting directions, Matt and Tom drive off, thinking they have seen/will see a sign.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Aussie on June 06, 2011, 06:20:56 AM
Nathan and Tyler - Bungee'd and now in 1st.
Chris and Anastasia - Bungee'd and now 2nd.
Matt and Tom - Bungee'd and now 3rd.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:22:32 AM
Chris is asking why Anastasia feels the need to constantly argue with him. Richard and Joey back at the Detour, struggling but are sent into hysterics when they finally get the last one.

Nathan: "We went to a town that was about 15-20 letters long, and had to grab a goat to take to a Sangoma."

Matt and Tom are running their goat with no troubles, Tyler and Nathan struggling a bit.

Jeff and Luke at bungee, Jeff jumps with no trouble. Luke calls him his superman, and hopes he can set the same example for his son. Jeff says its the best thing he's ever done.

On the road, Mos and Mo are in front of the sisters again, Mel claims responsibility for the stuff up.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:24:23 AM
Dave "was scared, I (he) don't care who knows." Dave jumps, despite thinking about not doing it. He screams in a rich tenor, he's proud to have not soiled anything or expelled any bodily fluids. Kelly has a huge grin on.

Anastasia is scared of the goats, so Chris is doing it pretty much solo.

Nathan have dragged their goat to the witch doctor in first, and are now heading for the Pit Stop: the Addo Elephant National park.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 06:26:14 AM
Matt and Tom are in a footrace with Tyler and Nathan to the pitstop as they go into the break.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:27:27 AM
Matt and Tom are back right behind again, Ana does not want to touch the goat, but she grabs a horn to help pull it.

Sam is afraid, but comments "I've always said if I was gonna bungee jump or something, it was gonna be the highest of the highest." Sam jumps with no hesitation, feels like she wants to cry.

Mel and Mo are up. Mel screams a "long scream" she was happy she did it, but will never do it again.

Matt and Tom are first to the park, first through the gate, Nathan and Tyler right behind.

FOOTRACE!

Both teams out of the cars and grabbing their packs. Matt and Tom have slightly better car position, but Tyler is right next to them as they start running.

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Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:34:07 AM
And we're back

Footrace again, both teams are out and going, grabbing packs. Matt and Tom in front of Nathan, but Tyler is right with them. Very close call.

Grant gives it to Matt and Tom, Nathan thinks that if the sprint was 100 meters instead of that tiny little dash, they'd have got em.

Mos jumps, "Woo"s a lot and loves it. He thanks Mo for being scared of bungee jumping and letting him do it.

Jeff and Luke doing the goats, seem to be doing well.

Chris is 10 meters from the end and exhausted, Anastasia doesn't have a hair out of place.

They stop for a dance break before running off.

Richard is screaming before he's even jumped. Joey says she couldn't have done it. They're trying to stay positive.

And she says they're going to Focus, Believe, Achieve. Take a shot, everybody.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:35:08 AM
Jeff and Luke's goat is pregnant, so they refuse to drag it. They pick it up and carry it instead. Sam and Renae's goat is giving them grief, and Dave and Kelly's goat is performing the classic childhood tantrum move: The Slump.

Dave: "And with about 300 meters to go, the goat decided to start walking. In a zig zag fashion, but in a fashion where I didn't have to drag it, so it was a good fashion."

Richard and Joey are right behind Mo and Mos. Chris and Ana & Jeff and Luke are enjoying seeing the animals on the way to the Pit Stop.

Sam and Renae are done with their goat.  Can't help but feel that if Mos and Mo can't pull away at the goats, they'll lose in a footrace for sure.

Alana and Mel are at the goats, and we cue the clueless music. Not good signs for them.

FBA and the muslims are level at the goats, Mo and Mos wrangle one first.

Their goat isn't very keen, and Richard decides to change goats.

Alana has had the pleasure of putting her finger inside a goat. She was holding it by the tail to get it to move, and slipped. It still smells, apparently.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 06:40:23 AM
Richard and Joey arguing again, the pressure of being bottom feeders is getting to them. (Do they remind anyone else of Ray and Deana???)

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Edit:

And we're back.

Richard and Joey still struggling with goat, Richard shoved it and now its running. Alana and Mel have reached the Pit Stop unscathed in 7th place.

Mo and Mos have handed in their goat, Richard and Joey 5 seconds behind, according to Mo and Mos.

Driving battle to the Pit Stop, and Richard and Joey are not far behind, angling to become the first team to survive being U-Turned on their own.

Mo and Mos are first to the park, checked in at number 8.

Richard and Joey have gone from first to last, jogging to the mat and looking generally displeased.

They turn away as Grant tells them they're eliminated.

Joey hoped it was an NEL so they could thank the surfers for their gift.

So it looks like no more Focus, Believe, Achieving.

Next time on The Amazing Race:

Skydive, tensions between ana and christ (wine task)

Quad bikes, shooting and Mo "Can't do it" at the skydiving.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 06:42:39 AM
I was thinking of Ray and Deana before, because they were eliminated after winning the previous stage on the back of a Fast Forward. I hope that Richard and Joey meet the same fate.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: valor boreal on June 06, 2011, 06:44:46 AM
YES!!!!!
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: ovalorange on June 06, 2011, 06:45:05 AM
Richard and Joey are out!  :wohoo:  :neener:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Aussie on June 06, 2011, 06:47:34 AM
Bye bye Richard and Joey!  :jam:  :yess:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: aikman on June 06, 2011, 06:50:45 AM
I can't believe Richard & Joey are out!!! Two weeks in a row the most entertaining contestants get eliminated.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: ovalorange on June 06, 2011, 07:29:06 AM
Although I don't particularly like Richard and Joey (as I'm sure many of us don't :lol:) I will admit that the odds were stacked against them this leg. Dealing with a bad goat, unfriendly teams who wouldn't help them out of the mud, and a U-turn - they really did try hard to gain back time but luck wasn't on their side. In my opinion, they actually raced fairly well during the leg except for the final goat task where they lost their cool. I'm glad to see them go, but no there's no one to root against now  (:;) and there's going to be much less drama.

Mel and Alana need to go as far as possible, I love them  :hearts: And I love Mel's quote too, which was something along the lines of "If you get us lost again, I'm going to chuck you off this bridge"  :lol3: Though if they race again on an all stars, they need to learn to drive a manual  :groan:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 06, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :wohoo:  :neener:  :wohoo: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 06, 2011, 07:50:28 AM
WoW!!  Fabulous updates!! Thanks so much!!

Sounds like an exciting episode full of KARMA!! :lol3:

Can't wait to watch!!
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 08:10:06 AM
WoW!!  Fabulous updates!! Thanks so much!!

Sounds like an exciting episode full of KARMA!! :lol3:

Can't wait to watch!!

I think this was the best episode yet. High drama all the way through, with the footrace to first, and then Richard and Joey coming back and then falling away and then coming back again, only to pull an Ari and Staella and lose thanks to a stubborn animal. The detours were cheap, but challenging and interesting, the Roadblock was one of the great fear tasks that have been sorely missed in the US edition of TAR lately. Working with animals is always inspired, and the great foreshadowed being in the sky chipped in, with Richard and Joey expressing their desire to work with animals while in Africa.

Great episode, head and shoulders above 1, 2 and 3.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Dånooky on June 06, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
The Amazing Race is always better with goats.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Best Loser on June 06, 2011, 05:21:10 PM
Richard & Joey wouldn't have been the first team to survive a U-turn. Dimple & Sunaina did in Amazing Race Asia 4.

My opinion of the teams
Matt & Tom- Have the highest lowest place
Tyler & Nathan- Have the best average
Anastasia & Chris- The girl doesn't do anything and the guy has a temper. Never had a team like this before
Jeff & Luke- I really like these guys, they seem to enjoy the world most out of all the teams.
Sam & Renae- Were rather out of focus this leg
Kelly & Dave- They're entertaining
Alana & Mel- Mel has done 4 roadblocks and is a jerk to Alana. I like Alana though.
Mo & Mos- 3 of the 4 leg they've gotten lucky
Richard & Joey- Their only high finish was a result of a luck based task. I don't understand why they get so much hate.

I like this version. The tasks are all good and all the teams are likable. I'm not a fan of some of the editing, such as how some teams are never shown arriving at tasks. There're also several mistakes with the team labels.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: RichInSydney on June 06, 2011, 05:30:03 PM
I love it how after an elimination, most teams are reflective and give credit to their partner for an amazing time etc etc... However Richard and Joey were just peeved that they were eliminated and wanted have a go at Tyler & Nathan who U-Turned them!

Although it was good they were racing to win, they appeared to show no respect to the countires they visited or the fact they had an amazing oportunity to be on the race. Also they did exactly the opposite to their philosphy. Focus, Believe, Achieve they did not!  :lol:
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 09:30:00 PM
Deleted Scene from Nathan and Tyler.


And Matt and Tom help the girls with some car trouble.


I like how they note that helping someone now will equal good things coming back at them later, then they went on to win the leg.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 06, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Richard and Joey after their elimination.

Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: mswood on June 07, 2011, 01:26:30 AM
That was a great episode, not just of this show but of all TAR's.   I am really loving the season, the stunts and tasks, and the cast.

I loved Tyler, bungee it was like they threw a corpse off the side, it was awesome to see a guy so paralyzed with fear.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: redskevin88 on June 07, 2011, 06:55:35 AM
Richard & Joey wouldn't have been the first team to survive a U-turn. Dimple & Sunaina did in Amazing Race Asia 4.

Anastasia & Chris- The girl doesn't do anything and the guy has a temper. Never had a team like this before


Disagree with you. I've seen Mai & Oliver on The Amazing Race Asia 3. Mai seems to expect Oliver to carry her around, and Oliver lost his temper at Mai early on...

And Flight Time & Big Easy survived a U-turn in TAR 18, they were U-turned by Jamie & Cara in the second W-turn. 

Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 07, 2011, 07:09:20 AM
Richard & Joey wouldn't have been the first team to survive a U-turn. Dimple & Sunaina did in Amazing Race Asia 4.

Anastasia & Chris- The girl doesn't do anything and the guy has a temper. Never had a team like this before


Disagree with you. I've seen Mai & Oliver on The Amazing Race Asia 3. Mai seems to expect Oliver to carry her around, and Oliver lost his temper at Mai early on...

And Flight Time & Big Easy survived a U-turn in TAR 18, they were U-turned by Jamie & Cara in the second W-turn. 



I don't count Double U-Turns for that record because there are 2 teams getting done. One of them has to survive it, that's just math.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: apskip on June 07, 2011, 10:10:49 AM

ROUTE INFO: Make your way to Johanessburg? or Port Elizabeth?
Yellow team went via Bangkok at 2:10PM
Some/All the other teams went via KL at 5:00PM

EVIDENCE: Sighting at Macau airport Source (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23589.msg572216.html#msg572216)

Bay Bay:

My analysis of the flight possibilities indicates that you are correct on Richard and Joey through Bangkok (it was stated on the show), but your information on all others is not. I saw on the telecast the time 1145pm and that happens to be the time for a nonstop flight departure from HongKong to Johannesburg (CX799 2345 0700+1) and there is another (SA287) five minutes later also arriving at 0700+1. No flight combination leaving Hong Kong after 415pm would get there any sooner, so it would not have made any sense for teams to take any later flight including the 500pm flight requiring a double connection and does not go to Kuala Lumpur.

Richard and Joey could made an error in not getting to Johannesburg 1 hour sooner (possible without sweating it by getting any flight from Hong Kong airport to Kuala Lumpur up until MH972 1615 1755 and then the connecting flight MH203 0120+1 0600+1). Alana and Mel and Tyler and Nathan with serious hustle might have been able to get onto those flights, but no other teams could have.  

The flight all teams will get into Port Elizabeth is the first one, KL5785 (codeshare BA6233) 0815+1 0955+1
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: WalterC on June 07, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
I believe there have been 2 other teams that had their heads shaved in a Fast Forward, and would go on to win the race. But it looks like the head shaving did not bring the good karma this time around, with Richard & Joey gone now! And so quickly!

Finally caught up on the episodes, as this is the first time I'm keeping up with a season of an international edition. Enjoying this very much.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: apskip on June 07, 2011, 12:49:12 PM
Walter C,

The head-shaving in Jopdpur India of Uchenna and Joyce led to later victory in AR7. In AR5 Brandon and Nicole refused to have their heads shaved, finished last but were saved by non-elimination in Calcutta and went on to a later third-place finish.  

In Amazing Race Asia 4, the Richards had their heads shaved and went on to later victory.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: slayton on June 07, 2011, 05:20:14 PM
The biggest problem that I had with this episode were the multiple bunching points.

Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 07, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
I think the HoO at the detour was very appropriate as if teams had been let to do the detour:

1. The filming would look bad
2. They'd have to be bunched at the RB - which is stupid right before the Pitstop
3. The U-Turn would be quite ineffective
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Elven6 on June 08, 2011, 10:32:17 AM
I can't believe Grant didn't say anything about the split second race to #1! The follow up was kind of funny though since it seems like Tyler and Nathan could have made better use of the prize than Matt and Tom! :P
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: boston_jen on June 08, 2011, 11:28:39 AM
Yes, Grant is not very talkative.  The way it's edited, it seems like he doesn't want any mat chat, especially from the eliminated teams.   With them, the vibe is almost like he's bouncer at a bar, and if they were there a minute longer, you can imagine him saying "I'm going to have to ask you to leave now...." :rules: 

How often do we see such a close race for first as well as last in the same episode? 

That must have been so frustrating for Richard and Joey to have such a (bald) head-start erased completely, and what relief for Mo and Mos for their penalty to be wiped out!  It certainly made for a tense episode.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: TARdevotee on June 08, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
Not a fan of Richard and Joey, but it sucked to see them eliminated! They were entertaining and the Race is always fun to watch when you have someone to root against!  :lol:

Still loving the race, but editing can be worked on a little. Is it me or does it seem like teams just randomly appear at tasks out of nowhere? Establishing their placement before starting the task would be nice!
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: slayton on June 08, 2011, 09:15:10 PM
The HOO by itself didn't bother me.  The problem that I had was that there were also 2 other bunching points with flights.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Coutzy on June 08, 2011, 10:04:06 PM
The HOO by itself didn't bother me.  The problem that I had was that there were also 2 other bunching points with flights.

I daresay the leg was planned with a lot of bunching so that Richard and Joey couldn't skip away thanks to the Fast Forward and claim this leg uncontested as well.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: BayBay on June 08, 2011, 10:08:16 PM
The HOO by itself didn't bother me.  The problem that I had was that there were also 2 other bunching points with flights.

I daresay the leg was planned with a lot of bunching so that Richard and Joey couldn't skip away thanks to the Fast Forward and claim this leg uncontested as well.

And so that the U-Turn wouldn't determine fate perhaps?
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Dånooky on June 09, 2011, 01:23:37 PM
The HOO by itself didn't bother me.  The problem that I had was that there were also 2 other bunching points with flights.

I daresay the leg was planned with a lot of bunching so that Richard and Joey couldn't skip away thanks to the Fast Forward and claim this leg uncontested as well.

And so that the U-Turn wouldn't determine fate perhaps?
They could have survived the U-Turn had they not been stuck in the mud and got a bad goat
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: apskip on June 09, 2011, 04:27:33 PM
As some sages occasionally have to say "nevermind" (a quotation from Emily Litella on Saturday Night Live). This one got screwed up, so see my next one.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: apskip on June 09, 2011, 04:32:53 PM
Richard & Joey wouldn't have been the first team to survive a U-turn. Dimple & Sunaina did in Amazing Race Asia 4.

Anastasia & Chris- The girl doesn't do anything and the guy has a temper. Never had a team like this before


Disagree with you. I've seen Mai & Oliver on The Amazing Race Asia 3. Mai seems to expect Oliver to carry her around, and Oliver lost his temper at Mai early on...

And Flight Time & Big Easy survived a U-turn in TAR 18, they were U-turned by Jamie & Cara in the second W-turn. 



I don't count Double U-Turns for that record because there are 2 teams getting done. One of them has to survive it, that's just math.

My math is from a little different perspective. A Double U-Turn if actually implemented fully can involve either 3 teams or 4 teams. A minimum of one (two if you count the teams activating the U-Turns) does have to survive, but in fact all 4 teams can survive if they do not finish the leg in last place of an elimination leg.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Prophet on June 09, 2011, 04:41:57 PM
Richard & Joey wouldn't have been the first team to survive a U-turn. Dimple & Sunaina did in Amazing Race Asia 4.

And Flight Time & Big Easy survived a U-turn in TAR 18, they were U-turned by Jamie & Cara in the second W-turn. 

I don't count Double U-Turns for that record because there are 2 teams getting done. One of them has to survive it, that's just math.

My math is from a little different perspective. A Double U-Turn if actually implemented fully can involve either 3 teams or 4 teams. A minimum of one (two if you count the teams activating the U-Turns) does have to survive, but in fact all 4 teams can survive if they do not finish the leg in last place of an elimination leg.

I don't really understand how that logic is an argument against Coutzy's statement. You just backed up the truth that one has to survive and stated the obvious that both could.

I don't count W-turns towards that statistic either.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: tarflyonthewall on June 10, 2011, 03:16:10 AM
The HOO by itself didn't bother me.  The problem that I had was that there were also 2 other bunching points with flights.

I daresay the leg was planned with a lot of bunching so that Richard and Joey couldn't skip away thanks to the Fast Forward and claim this leg uncontested as well.

And so that the U-Turn wouldn't determine fate perhaps?

There was no bunching after the U-Turn. In fact, the first-come-first-served nature of the bungy was as far from bunching as you could have gotten.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: apskip on June 10, 2011, 06:22:36 AM
tarflyonthewall,

You are basically right due to the fact that the bungee ROADBLOCK takes enough time to guarantee spacing between teams after they complete it. There were few changes in the order of teams from Bloukrans Bridge to Nomathangsanga to the Addo Elephant Park. However, if the tasks after the ROADBLOCK were more variable in their outcomes, it wouldn't have been the case.
Title: Re: TARAus 1 Episode 4 (South Africa) Episode Discussion *SPOILERS*
Post by: Jobby on June 15, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Omg. I just watched this leg and it gets better and better.

Can't believe that Richard and Joey were eliminated! I admit that the U-TURN had a big part to do to their elimination. But don't forget that they spent a huge amount of time getting their car out as well as bickering with each other. I would have wished they stayed on (even though I don't like them and the 8th place team is a useless team)

I just love the teams on TAR Australia! They're so fun and interesting! We have nice and interesting teams like Matt and Tom, Luke and David, Kelly and Dave.. and is it just me or is Alana and Mel getting loads of edit these few episodes? Sam and Ranae are okay, Tyler and Nathan... (acceptable and they were appreciative of the surroundings this leg so that's a plus point for them for me this leg) and the only team that is making the race really boring is... Mo and Mos. I mean, they're the underdogs. But if they win.. I think it will be a shocker to anyone. Chris and Anastasia = :meow: but at least they're interesting.. in some ways.

The Detour was really cool.. would have wished for a better task than building a giraffe feeder. Maybe they have to get a giraffe to eat from it to add some interactive aspect to it.. but aww well, you can't have everything.

Leading the goat to the witch doctor =  :tup: :tup: :tup: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Adds to the funny aspect as well as the animal aspect AND it also shift up (just) a few position here and there. Rather than Roadblock then straight to the pitstop, we have another task and I'm not complaining.

Loving TAR Australia and I can't believe I'm in love with so many teams! <33333333