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Title: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 16, 2011, 05:35:38 AM
Thanks to racer for the title find!


AN IMPENDING DOUBLE U-TURN PUTS THE REMAINING TEAMS ON EDGE, AND ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, APRIL 24

"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24


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EPISODE 9 SUMMARY!!

A HUGE thanks to Neobie's incredible on site Detective work in Zermatt for jumpstarting our spoilers and to the rest of the team (especially raina, DrRox, The Prophet, walkingpneumomia, and of course tombc52)  who provided eyewitness accounts, locations, routes, maps, times, screencap aanalysis, and theories, we have been able to cover this leg from start to finish!! It is so detailed that I wanted to pull it all together.

Neobie gave us an estimated TIMELINE as well:


It looks like, to me:
Pit Start at Salzburg, before 6.00am
Train from Salzburg to Feldkirch, around 6.30am
Taxi from Feldkirch to Liechtenstein, around 10.00am
Roadblock at Liechtenstein: Moped measurement, around 10.30am
Taxi (or, a smaller possibility, bus) from Liechtenstein to Sargans, around 11.30am
Train from Sargans to Zermatt, around 12.00pm
Detour at Zermatt: Luggage or Fondue (Cheesy Costumes or Cheesy Cuisine - just a joking guess), around 6.00pm
Pit Stop at Zermatt, around 7.30pm


So have fun!! The underlining means there is a LINK to more info, the pictures are thumbnails so click-click to enlarge them.


Teams depart from Salzburg and travel by train  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24706.msg605552.html#msg605552)to Feldkirch Austria.

From Feldkirch, they catch a taxi
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_18-9-PREVIEW-caps0081.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0081.jpg)

(Cowboys and FTBE bunched; Gallory trailing)

to Schaanwald, Liechtenstein, where they receive their first Route Info near the Kaiser AG buiding, within walking distance of the border.
.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18ep9Kaisarag.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9Kaisarag.jpg)

Gary and Mallory, who arrived last in the previous leg, must complete a Speedbump (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/th_gamecluespeedbump.png) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/gamecluespeedbump.png)before moving on.
 
They must figure out how to fuel a moped (http://www.myronsmoped.com/content/FAQ/FAQ.html).

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18-9-speedbumphint.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18-9-speedbumphint.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18ep9speedbump.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9speedbump.jpg)


The Roadblock is ride a  VELOSOLEX (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg607238.html#msg607238) the length of Liechtenstein,

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/th_18-9-promo1-caps0076-Copy.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0076-Copy.jpg)

and measure the exact length of the country (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23692.msg585539.html#msg585539).
Your moped has an odometer, so any mistake in direction will cause your total to be wrong, and force you to start again.


Doing the Roadblock are Jet (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/th_18-9-promo1-caps0276.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0276.jpg), Gary(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/th_18-9-promo1A-caps0486.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0486.jpg), FT(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/th_18-9-promo1-caps0160-Copy.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0160-Copy.jpg), Jen(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/th_18-9-promo3-caps0208.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/18-9-promo3-caps0208.jpg), Vyxsin(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/th_18-9-promo3-caps0327.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/18-9-promo3-caps0327.jpg) and Justin(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/th_18-9-promo3-caps0434.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/18-9-promo3-caps0434.jpg).

Bikers turn in their estimated distance to famed Olympic skier Marco Büchel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_B%C3%BCchel).

If their totals are correct, the bikers are directed to rejoin their teammates at Balzer Castle (aka Gutenberg Castle)  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg606472.html#msg606472)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_GutenburgBalzarsCastle.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/GutenburgBalzarsCastle.jpg)

 and receive their next Route Info clue from their teammate.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/th_18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)

Teams must then travel by bus to Sargans train station.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/th_18-9-promo1A-caps0783.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0783.jpg)

Take the train (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24706.msg603588.html#msg603588) from Sargans to Zermatt (via Zurich and Visp) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg580353.html#msg580353).
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/th_18-9-promo1-caps0342-Copy.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0342-Copy.jpg)

On arrival to the Zermatt train station, teams will find the Detour clue.

Thanks to Neobie's Detective work (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg605528.html#msg605528) and the later promos, we know the tasks are:

FONDUE!
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_18-9-PREVIEW-caps0496.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0496.jpg)

With the location being discovered by Raina  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg606007.html#msg606007)as being here:
http://www.walliserkanne.ch/walliserkanne_zermatt_restaurant_en.htm



We see Zev and Justin doing this task here:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_18-9-PREVIEW-caps0506.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0506.jpg)

With Justin seeming to be having trouble here:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_18-9-PREVIEW-caps0575.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0575.jpg)

and a shot of The Cowboys here: (note the outfits, this shot confirms either them being U-Turned or an unusual Detour switch on their part.)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_18-9-PREVIEW-caps0465.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0465.jpg)

The other Detour is deliver luggage from the train station to various Zermatt Hotels. Teams must deleiver a number of pieces of luggae to several different hotels, and importantly, retrieve some luggage tag receipts to turn in at the end of the task.

Teams who complete the task successfully are given the next ROUTE Info clue, which THANKS TO NEOBIE (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg605528.html#msg605528) we know directs them to find
the Ulrich Inderbinen Fountain

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAr18ep9Ulrichfountain.jpg)

in the Histerdorf

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9Hinterdorf.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18ep9fountain.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9fountain.jpg)

This is the site of the DOUBLE U-TURN. And some goats.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18ep9doubleUturn.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9doubleUturn.jpg)

TWO teams MAY be put at risk here.

Seeing the Cowboys at one Detour Option in the uniform of the second Detour Option strongly suggests they are the victim of one of the available U-Turns.

Will another team face the double U-Turn as well?? Who does the Yielding??

The next Route Info Clue directs the teams to take Electric Taxis to the PITSTOP

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18ep9Moos.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9Moos.jpg)

Bergrestaurant-Moos
Moosstrasse 77, 3920 Zermatt, Switzerland

PANORAMA:
http://bergrestaurant-moos.ch/pano/index.html

where one team WILL BE ELIMINATED.

WHO wins the leg? WHO will be eliminated??

Find out

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/th_18-9-promo1A-caps0145.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0145.jpg)





 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 16, 2011, 05:36:40 AM
Preview!


              
                   caps here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg605877.html#msg605877


Promo 1! (TV)




                   caps here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg606378.html#msg606378


Promo 1A! (Web)





                               caps here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg606552.html#msg606552



Promo 3!!


                 


SPorts Promo!!


Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 16, 2011, 05:36:54 AM
Thanks Neobie!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9ZERMATTmapNeobie.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9SalzburgtoZERMATTmapNeobie.jpg)  



Liechtenstein: Thanks apskip!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9LiechtensteinMAP.jpg)



From RAINA! Thanks!!


Looking at Amazing Line map that they had in the preview, this should be the route map with the Schaanwald being the start point, Balzers being the end point and the gas station in the middle.  It's exactly 9.5 km to the gas station from the start and exactly 9.5 km from the gas station to Balzers. 

(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/34yczmf.jpg)
.com/zl7zog.jpg]Route With Gas Station (B) Location (Slightly bigger) (http://i56.[banned image hosting site)

I couldn't find any bike shops near the gas station (there might be some there obviously, just couldn't find them.  There is one near Balzers (http://www.veloshop.li/home.aspx) and one in Triesenberg (http://www.bikeshop.li/index.html).  Both are after the gas station.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 16, 2011, 05:37:12 AM
Fun stuff.


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/gamecluespeedbump.png)



Not soldiers, not chimney sweepers... but BELLBOYS. :lol:

It looks like, to me:
Pit Start at Salzburg, before 6.00am
Train from Salzburg to Feldkirch, around 6.30am
Taxi from Feldkirch to Liechtenstein, around 10.00am
Roadblock at Liechtenstein: Moped measurement, around 10.30am
Taxi (or, a smaller possibility, bus) from Liechtenstein to Sargans, around 11.30am
Train from Sargans to Zermatt, around 12.00pm
Detour at Zermatt: Luggage or Fondue (Cheesy Costumes or Cheesy Cuisine - just a joking guess), around 6.00pm
Pit Stop at Zermatt, around 7.30pm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 17, 2011, 05:31:08 PM
Nice a speed bump. Will we see an intersection this season?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: jiajia12 on April 17, 2011, 08:01:51 PM
Not looking good for Gary/Mallory 6th again :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 17, 2011, 08:06:31 PM
Not looking good for Gary/Mallory 6th again :'(

Yup,but some of the roadblocks are really easy so they may stay safe.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: coolio on April 17, 2011, 08:15:29 PM
Wait, in the preview, the teams were shown riding the mopeds. I thought that was Liestenstien? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2011, 08:21:08 PM
Yep....they pass thru Lichtenstein on the way to Switzerland.  It is a small place. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 17, 2011, 08:28:08 PM
I guess Lichtenstein can't be a separate leg since Brazil is on the 1st and the final on the 8th. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on April 17, 2011, 08:35:14 PM
I say Gary & Mallory for the the line "We're Good American People"!  :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2011, 08:47:00 PM
I guess Lichtenstein can't be a separate leg since Brazil is on the 1st and the final on the 8th. 

We NEVER had it as a separate leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 17, 2011, 08:50:40 PM
The moped thing is nice, but for $70K and a little imagination the producers could have created some awesome tasks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/15/liechtenstein-hire-rental-scheme).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2011, 08:52:52 PM
LOVE that!! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 17, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
Again, the findings from my little Zermatt trip. The glacier will almost certainly be the following leg, not sure about the railway station task and the fountain?

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4561/bzermatt4.jpg)

THE TRAIN STATION
The only feasible way to enter Zermatt is by train, and as we know from Tombc52's spoiler, the train from Liechtenstein involves a change at Zurich and Visp. Teams would have arrived in the evening, with LaKisha/Jennifer scheduled to arrive at 5.34pm. Sunset on 7 Dec is at 4.38pm, so I'd doubt any tasks outside of town for the rest of the first leg. That being said, it seems that there is a task taking place right at the train station itself! More in the next section.

THE LOCAL HOTELS
There seems to have been a task with teams carrying luggage from the train station to hotels around the area. Teams were reportedly running up and down Bahnhofstrasse and Hinterdorfstrasse. Some possible hotels are the Mont Cervin Palace, the Hotel Phoenix and the Hotel Primavera. On another note, production was housed at the Hotel Ambassador, not far from the train station.

THE GLACIERS
Teams were seen performing tasks at Theodulgletscher and Furggsattel. There may have been, on top of the avalanche search task, another task that involved rescuing someone or something from a mountain crevice.

AND A FOUNTAIN
This is the Ulrich Inderbinen fountain, dedicated to a mountaineer who climbed the Matterhorn a staggering 370+ times. Sounds like a Pit Stop to me, but I can't be sure. It's semi-open to the public, but the surrounding streets are easily closed off. Production was seen milling around here for a while.

(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7043/kzermatt2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 17, 2011, 09:36:44 PM
Neobie!!!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 17, 2011, 09:56:10 PM
Ermmm...Neobie,you're amazing! :<3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 17, 2011, 10:09:15 PM
Gary and Mallory are chasing down a taxi at the train station in FELDKIRCH, AUSTRIA. This is the Austrian jumping-off point to Liechtenstein, and where I based myself because Liechtenstein was so crazily expensive to stay in!

(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/2035614-The_FeldkirchSchaan_bus-Vaduz.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 18, 2011, 01:25:09 AM
forgive me for being off topic, but i am wondering why the narrator of the preview for episode 9 is not phil.  normally phil is the one narrating "next week on TAR, ....." probably not relevant, but it's something that jumped at me. 

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 18, 2011, 01:44:07 AM
forgive me for being off topic, but i am wondering why the narrator of the preview for episode 9 is not phil.  normally phil is the one narrating "next week on TAR, ....." probably not relevant, but it's something that jumped at me. 



http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/4896661/Keoghan-helps-raise-200-000-for-Christchurch (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/4896661/Keoghan-helps-raise-200-000-for-Christchurch)

It might be this, but im not 100% sure.
It looks like he was in NZ when it was recorded?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: LoveRocked on April 18, 2011, 02:06:38 AM

Here we go..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lutpay on April 18, 2011, 03:48:12 AM
They eat fondue at ??? I can't find the place
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 18, 2011, 04:13:14 AM
forgive me for being off topic, but i am wondering why the narrator of the preview for episode 9 is not phil.  normally phil is the one narrating "next week on TAR, ....." probably not relevant, but it's something that jumped at me. 



http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/4896661/Keoghan-helps-raise-200-000-for-Christchurch (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/4896661/Keoghan-helps-raise-200-000-for-Christchurch)

It might be this, but im not 100% sure.
It looks like he was in NZ when it was recorded?

that might be true! anyways, I was just in the city of Christchurch, NZ a month ago when the earthquake happened! SCARY!!! I wish I was there to see Phil... and get his autograph! :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 18, 2011, 04:15:48 AM
can anyone please tell me what food they are eating?

oh yeah, a picture too if you guys don't mind :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 18, 2011, 04:18:47 AM
can anyone please tell me what food they are eating?

oh yeah, a picture too if you guys don't mind :)

Looks to me like it is cheese fondue.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 18, 2011, 04:23:12 AM
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2966/37918978.png)
Do you guys think this is a detour which involves having to eat within the time frame given (same as the Ferris wheel task)? And

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5664/29521585.png)
This being a roadblock?

The thing that questions me is... in the electric bicycle task jet/cord are wearing different clothings compared to when they're doing the cheese fondue task. Could it be that they actually switched detours..? Because Zev/Justin are wearing their usual clothes.

If im right.. that could put them into last place or something.. Because they don't look very happy eating that thing and normally you would change out of that outfit if you ain't rushing right? Sobsob.. cowboys you'd better be in the final 3 or imma whoop your butt  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kiki on April 18, 2011, 05:01:35 AM
^ The motopeds are in Lichtenstain as we know, but then the teams go to Zermaat. So IMO the motopeds is a RB and then the fondue probably a detour in a restaurant in Zermaat. Although why any team would choose a food detour after what happened to Vienna is beyond me.

livingincm is right about the clothes in the fondue scenes, the cowboys are wearing a military style uniform unlike Zev and Justin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 18, 2011, 05:06:06 AM
It was pretty cold in Europe when they were there filming........looks like Jen, Gary and Cord kept the chimney sweep coat.......lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 18, 2011, 05:57:54 AM
Put the pieces together!

Not soldiers, not chimney sweepers... but BELLBOYS. :lol:

It looks like, to me:
Pit Start at Salzburg, before 6.00am
Train from Salzburg to Feldkirch, around 6.30am
Taxi from Feldkirch to Liechtenstein, around 10.00am
Roadblock at Liechtenstein: Moped measurement, around 10.30am
Taxi (or, a smaller possibility, bus) from Liechtenstein to Sargans, around 11.30am
Train from Sargans to Zermatt, around 12.00pm
Detour at Zermatt: Luggage or Fondue (Cheesy Costumes or Cheesy Cuisine - just a joking guess), around 6.00pm
Pit Stop at Zermatt, around 7.30pm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 18, 2011, 07:09:31 AM
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2966/37918978.png)
Do you guys think this is a detour which involves having to eat within the time frame given (same as the Ferris wheel task)? And

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5664/29521585.png)
This being a roadblock?

The thing that questions me is... in the electric bicycle task jet/cord are wearing different clothings compared to when they're doing the cheese fondue task. Could it be that they actually switched detours..? Because Zev/Justin are wearing their usual clothes.

If im right.. that could put them into last place or something.. Because they don't look very happy eating that thing and normally you would change out of that outfit if you ain't rushing right? Sobsob.. cowboys you'd better be in the final 3 or imma whoop your butt  (:;)

hmmm... that's true.. but why would the cowboys switch detours? they never quit a task that they've started!!! >:(... anyways, it could possibly put them in last place but they are very fast at anything though... plus, Gary and Mallory have speedbump so they will probably be ok...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Greens on April 18, 2011, 08:06:07 AM
i thought the motorbike task was a route info task where they had to measure Lichenstein
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 08:17:33 AM
@Neobie Thanks for all the info, man! :jumpy:
So based on your Detour reasoning, the Cowboys switch Detours. If this is true, I wonder how the luggage could be harder than the fondue. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: hufter on April 18, 2011, 08:23:21 AM
can anyone please tell me what food they are eating?

oh yeah, a picture too if you guys don't mind :)

Looks to me like it is cheese fondue.

Telling from the reaction of (is it Zev or Justin), they are apparently also drinking Kirschwasser.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: jiajia12 on April 18, 2011, 08:30:31 AM
There's somwthing wrong with the speculation of Cow boys switching detours...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 08:32:07 AM
It's Justin and he definitely doesn't seem to be enjoying that.  :lol:

I figured the hard part has to be something besides the fondue, how hard can that be to eat? Maybe it's really spicy?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 08:33:36 AM
Would this sign help somebody figure it out?
(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/2dble01.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 18, 2011, 08:40:29 AM
"Flaschenweine im Offenausschank" according to Google means... "bottled wine by the glass". So not much help, I guess?

While we cannot insist for certain that the Cowboys switch Detours, saying that they don't would mean that the fondue is a mandatory task. And in an episode involving three countries (four if you count the train ride through Bavaria), two long international journeys with multiple legs, a Speed Bump, and a whole leg to showcase Zermatt the week after, I don't think the fondue as a mandatory Route Marker task is very likely.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 08:42:14 AM
This appears to be one of the Cowboys doing the Roadblock. It is not likely that it is Gary since it's not his turn.
(http://i52.[banned image hosting site].com/mmv3n7.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: franxaverian on April 18, 2011, 09:08:56 AM
Isn't fondue supposed to be really hot??? If this is another time-framed eating challenge, I guess it would be a big problem for the teams to finish it without burning your tongues...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on April 18, 2011, 09:53:44 AM
The moped thing is nice, but for $70K and a little imagination the producers could have created some awesome tasks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/15/liechtenstein-hire-rental-scheme).
They had a piece on the news here in Australia about hiring Liechtenstein for a day!

How about we all chip in and have an RFF Christmas Party in Liechtenstein! :jam: If there is 100 people chipping in, that is $700 per head (not counting the cost of the flight...)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: apskip on April 18, 2011, 09:58:56 AM
Isn't fondue supposed to be really hot??? If this is another time-framed eating challenge, I guess it would be a big problem for the teams to finish it without burning your tongues...

There is a flame underneath fondue pots which are typically adjustable. You can have your melted cheese hot or warm. Now, World Race Productions could choose to burn the roofs of the mouths of any who try this, but why would they want to discourage any future contestants from trying eating challenges?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 18, 2011, 11:22:37 AM
(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/40208756.jpg)

Road bending slightly to the left, woods on right, field to left, this looks about right! (Also, compare the wear-and-tear on the sign below.)

This is the southernmost border of Liechtenstein (with Switzerland) at Balzers. Since it's not on the road between Feldkirch and Liechtenstein, nor that between Liechtenstein and Sargans, I'd say this is the end-point of our moped run, and our measurement of Liechtenstein runs north-south and not east-west?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: hufter on April 18, 2011, 11:48:00 AM
Isn't fondue supposed to be really hot??? If this is another time-framed eating challenge, I guess it would be a big problem for the teams to finish it without burning your tongues...

It's not the food, cheese fondue is delicious. I'd say they also have to drink something like this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Fuersteneck_Kirschwasser.jpg/279px-Fuersteneck_Kirschwasser.jpg)
Which is good too, but if you are not used to strong alcohol, it is really... mm... strong.
I told you so upwards, but no-one noticed because I'm a n00b. When you see the episode, remember, I told you so.  :umn:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2011, 12:07:43 PM
Isn't fondue supposed to be really hot??? If this is another time-framed eating challenge, I guess it would be a big problem for the teams to finish it without burning your tongues...

It's not the food, cheese fondue is delicious. I'd say they also have to drink something like this:
Which is good too, but if you are not used to strong alcohol, it is really... mm... strong.
I told you so upwards, but no-one noticed because I'm a n00b. When you see the episode, remember, I told you so.  :umn:

I noticed!! And we are a TEAM here, so great observations are always welcome here from anyone, new or not!! That is how we puzzle things out.

So :welcome: and keep it up!! Especially if you are bringing the drinks! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: chill_sd on April 18, 2011, 12:14:47 PM
This is the southernmost border of Liechtenstein (with Switzerland) at Balzers. Since it's not on the road between Feldkirch and Liechtenstein, nor that between Liechtenstein and Sargans, I'd say this is the end-point of our moped run, and our measurement of Liechtenstein runs north-south and not east-west?

I believe you are correct.  Looking earlier, I noticed a good North/South route on the Western side of Liechtenstein.  The East side of the country looks more mountainous, and I didn't see any real good East/West routes.  The North/South route is longer, also.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: hufter on April 18, 2011, 12:24:32 PM
So :welcome: and keep it up!! Especially if you are bringing the drinks! :lol:
A little bitterness gets you the attention again, doesn't it?
If I could send drinks over the interwebs, I totally would. I've been admiring the work of you, Prophet, Neobie and many others.   Cheers :keeta: Jumalauta!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 12:26:47 PM
Awww.... :hrt:
But I'm not as good as our wonderful TAR Detectives! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2011, 12:30:04 PM
 Cheers :keeta: Jumalauta!



Thanks for the nice words!

Jumalauta!   ???

Right back at you!!  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: littlewop on April 18, 2011, 04:24:59 PM
Isn't fondue supposed to be really hot??? If this is another time-framed eating challenge, I guess it would be a big problem for the teams to finish it without burning your tongues...

It's not the food, cheese fondue is delicious. I'd say they also have to drink something like this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Fuersteneck_Kirschwasser.jpg/279px-Fuersteneck_Kirschwasser.jpg)
Which is good too, but if you are not used to strong alcohol, it is really... mm... strong.
I told you so upwards, but no-one noticed because I'm a n00b. When you see the episode, remember, I told you so.  :umn:


Hopefully the drinking part is after the driving part!!   :colors
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 05:00:06 PM
DOUBLE UTURN!!

:ascared :ascared :ascared :ascared

Quote
"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 05:01:20 PM
Jet and Cord must be Uturned  :'( that's why they do the luggage and eating.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Laimis on April 18, 2011, 05:09:43 PM
DOUBLE UTURN!!

:ascared :ascared :ascared :ascared

Quote
"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

wow, again : O
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 18, 2011, 05:23:08 PM
Wow, a W-Turn again!?! 

What does that mean for Gary and Mallory I wonder?  If teams are smart, they should U-Turn them as it could be the final nail.  Of course that will depend on who gets to the U-Turn first.  Just looked like G&M were having trouble getting a cab in the preview.  Hmm. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: paldog123456 on April 18, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
Hopefully a chance for Gary and Mallory to catch up!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: phant0m on April 18, 2011, 05:27:57 PM
Hopefully a chance for Gary and Mallory to catch up!  :hearts:

or to fall further behind!  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
TPTB have been building a storyline for the Cowboys to be U-Turned...if anyone else is U-Turned, it may be the Goths because the other teams aren't exactly friends with them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shiryu01 on April 18, 2011, 06:13:36 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 07:38:30 PM
Yes, if the Cowboys are the first ones U-Turned, they have a better chance because they may U-Turn somebody else to save themselves. Otherwise, not so much.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 18, 2011, 07:45:46 PM
DOUBLE UTURN!!

:ascared :ascared :ascared :ascared

Quote
"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

wow, again : O

One team struggles to consume a local delicacy ---> jet/cord
Swiss hospitality ---> ???

Oh dear.... :( pls survive jet/cord. I have a bad feeling bout this.
Hope its like tar16 whr the team tt did the swiss hospitality task ended up like joe/heidi or sth >…<
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mds1978 on April 18, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
Is the rule of only being allowed to use the u-turn once per season still in effect? If so, can we assume that kent/vyxsin aren't allowed to u-turn any other team this week since they already used up their u-turn in china?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 07:48:11 PM
I would assume that the Goths only had one Courtesy of Photo, which they used in Kunming. I speculated up the thread that the Goths may be U-Turned. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dånooky on April 18, 2011, 08:05:59 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.

Now, I thought about a strategy to counter that...if two teams decide to cooperate with the U-Turn to just affect the cowboys, two teams can agree that:
one of them U-Turns the cowboys and
the other team u-turns a team that is already ahead of them (to cancel the second U-Turn)

farfetched but it could work in theory
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Zack. on April 18, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.

Now, I thought about a strategy to counter that...if two teams decide to cooperate with the U-Turn to just affect the cowboys, two teams can agree that:
one of them U-Turns the cowboys and
the other team u-turns a team that is already ahead of them (to cancel the second U-Turn)

farfetched but it could work in theory

To further extend this thought, the second team could just U-Turn the team that used the first U-Turn.

Also: 'Swiss hospitality' = hotel task mentioned by Neobie upthread.  :tup:
Though, this Detour is shaping up to be 'power eating' (though, much like before, with something delicious) vs 'lift heavy things'. For the second week in a row.  :res:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 18, 2011, 08:36:30 PM

Though, this Detour is shaping up to be 'power eating' (though, much like before, with something delicious) vs 'lift heavy things'. For the second week in a row.  :res:

Not only life heavy things but deliver them to specific locations. :lol3: Are they running out of ideas?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Belle Book on April 18, 2011, 08:37:27 PM
DOUBLE UTURN!!

:ascared :ascared :ascared :ascared

Quote
"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

I think the teams who are U-Turned are the Cowboys (they're really strong) and Kent & Vyksin (they're unpopular).

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Cocoa on April 18, 2011, 08:38:24 PM
Now this means that the Roadblock is after the Detour, or else that's what you call bad planning. :o
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 18, 2011, 08:38:42 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.

Now, I thought about a strategy to counter that...if two teams decide to cooperate with the U-Turn to just affect the cowboys, two teams can agree that:
one of them U-Turns the cowboys and
the other team u-turns a team that is already ahead of them (to cancel the second U-Turn)

farfetched but it could work in theory

One thing we know for sure is that the cowboys are u-turned.

It is a genius idea. Cos everyone (i mean everyone ; Zev/Justin, Ron/Chris, Gary/Mallory etc.) have either said "the cowboys are intimidating" or "it's the cowboys. Pretty sure they would catch up". But i think this kinda strategy is only thought by the ppl from survivor. But it would b a more likely thing IF

1) Route info from pitstop says > Careful, W-TURN ahead! As teams would b in the train, they might have ample time to actually socialize and discuss strategy w/ each other.

2) 2 teams arrived at the w-turn & the idea just came to them and tada.. cowboys u-turned.

I just hope that the roadblock would be an easy task for the cowboys but a hard task for the other teams haha! :) Just like the dinosaur puzzle in china.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shiryu01 on April 18, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.

Now, I thought about a strategy to counter that...if two teams decide to cooperate with the U-Turn to just affect the cowboys, two teams can agree that:
one of them U-Turns the cowboys and
the other team u-turns a team that is already ahead of them (to cancel the second U-Turn)

farfetched but it could work in theory

To further extend this thought, the second team could just U-Turn the team that used the first U-Turn.

Also: 'Swiss hospitality' = hotel task mentioned by Neobie upthread.  :tup:
Though, this Detour is shaping up to be 'power eating' (though, much like before, with something delicious) vs 'lift heavy things'. For the second week in a row.  :res:
That would borderline on conspiracy, but it could certainly happen, although I personally would find it a bit mean. And it's also possible that the cowboys or somebody else mistakenly u-turn a team ahead. A lot of it will depend on how hard the roadblock is and on where it's located, last time we had detour before dinosour RB and everyone managed to catch up, BUT now Jet is not wearing the hotel uniform on the scooter, so it could be RB before detour? Now that would be almost a nail in the coffin. :'(
PS, I think the team struggling with the food challenge are Zev/Justin, judging from the promo. Justin didn't sound too happy there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 18, 2011, 08:45:30 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.

Now, I thought about a strategy to counter that...if two teams decide to cooperate with the U-Turn to just affect the cowboys, two teams can agree that:
one of them U-Turns the cowboys and
the other team u-turns a team that is already ahead of them (to cancel the second U-Turn)

farfetched but it could work in theory

To further extend this thought, the second team could just U-Turn the team that used the first U-Turn.

Also: 'Swiss hospitality' = hotel task mentioned by Neobie upthread.  :tup:
Though, this Detour is shaping up to be 'power eating' (though, much like before, with something delicious) vs 'lift heavy things'. For the second week in a row.  :res:
That would borderline on conspiracy, but it could certainly happen, although I personally would find it a bit mean. And it's also possible that the cowboys or somebody else mistakenly u-turn a team ahead. A lot of it will depend on how hard the roadblock is and on where it's located, last time we had detour before dinosour RB and everyone managed to catch up, BUT now Jet is not wearing the hotel uniform on the scooter, so it could be RB before detour? Now that would be almost a nail in the coffin. :'(
PS, I think the team struggling with the food challenge are Zev/Justin, judging from the promo. Justin didn't sound too happy there.

It is just extremely poor planning if the roadblock comes before the detour. Because there's no way in hell for the u-turned teams to catch up. So im guessing it's a route info to measure the length of Liechtenstein. Otherwise it's just not fair.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 18, 2011, 09:26:44 PM
Quote
"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while otherS become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

This suggests that most team went to do the swiss hospitality detour (otherS). Bet its due to the phobia from vienna, austria. :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 18, 2011, 09:35:00 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.

Now, I thought about a strategy to counter that...if two teams decide to cooperate with the U-Turn to just affect the cowboys, two teams can agree that:
one of them U-Turns the cowboys and
the other team u-turns a team that is already ahead of them (to cancel the second U-Turn)

farfetched but it could work in theory

To further extend this thought, the second team could just U-Turn the team that used the first U-Turn.

Also: 'Swiss hospitality' = hotel task mentioned by Neobie upthread.  :tup:
Though, this Detour is shaping up to be 'power eating' (though, much like before, with something delicious) vs 'lift heavy things'. For the second week in a row.  :res:

The team that used the first U-Turn would be considered to have passed the U-Turn point, though. So technically if they were U-Turned, it would not have any effect.

Edit: Yes, I am an idiot  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: theschnauzers on April 18, 2011, 10:11:35 PM
Don't forget Gary and Mallory have to do a speed bump.  If the detour comes before the roadblock, the odds are the speed bump would come before the detour.  Which would point to Gary and Mallory being the last team reaching the Detour.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: BayBay on April 18, 2011, 10:11:47 PM
These may be the last famous words, BUT for the cowboys a double u-turn is better than a normal u-turn. They are always VERY quick at performing tasks, that's where they usually catch up. If another team is in their same predicament, they might pull ahead - providing they don't get there last or something like that.

Now, I thought about a strategy to counter that...if two teams decide to cooperate with the U-Turn to just affect the cowboys, two teams can agree that:
one of them U-Turns the cowboys and
the other team u-turns a team that is already ahead of them (to cancel the second U-Turn)

farfetched but it could work in theory

To further extend this thought, the second team could just U-Turn the team that used the first U-Turn.

Also: 'Swiss hospitality' = hotel task mentioned by Neobie upthread.  :tup:
Though, this Detour is shaping up to be 'power eating' (though, much like before, with something delicious) vs 'lift heavy things'. For the second week in a row.  :res:

The team that used the first U-Turn would be considered to have passed the U-Turn point, though. So technically if they were U-Turned, it would not have any effect.

I think that is the point  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: AmazingRace on April 18, 2011, 10:15:19 PM
Hmm..I could imagine FT/BE being U-Turned again, ala Eric & Danielle.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: AmazingRace on April 18, 2011, 10:23:36 PM
Double post.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 18, 2011, 10:37:41 PM
soo.. Jet and Cord probably got u-turned... which sucks! T_T

the question now is... who u-turned them?

probably not the goths since they've use their power...
can't be Gary and Mal, because they already said that they can't u-turn the trotters and cowboys no matter how strong they are...

soo.. it might be the globetrotters, Zev and Justin or Kisha and Jen that u-turned the cowboys?

there is a big chance that it might be the globetrotters..
I also think that Kisha and Jen might get the second u-turn....

hmm.. If I were to u-turn someone on the race... it will be Gary and Mallory... as much as I love them but they are gonna be racing like a dog since they have a speedbump and could probably catch up and u-turning them is gonna be a good idea because they cannot give them a momentum going if they survive this leg...

I really do hope that cowboys survive! I cannot watch the amazing race without them racing!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2011, 10:59:54 PM
Preview caps, sorry they are late!


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Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2011, 11:00:50 PM
Preview is up in post 2!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: scruffs on April 19, 2011, 12:36:10 AM
U-turned or not, I just hope the cowboys survive this leg.. :(

Maybe its time the goths be out... :snicker: Kent is very irritating to watch... Poor Vyksin...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 19, 2011, 12:57:00 AM
U-turned or not, I just hope the cowboys survive this leg.. :(

Maybe its time the goths be out... :snicker: Kent is very irritating to watch... Poor Vyksin...

yea no kidding.  it kind of reminds me of how nick was acting towards vicki.  always complaining and not contributing.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Puppet on April 19, 2011, 12:58:22 AM
U-turned or not, I just hope the cowboys survive this leg.. :(

Maybe its time the goths be out... :snicker: Kent is very irritating to watch... Poor Vyksin...

yea no kidding.  it kind of reminds me of how nick was acting towards vicki.  always complaining and not contributing.

Yup, it's like a total replay of TAR 17 ._. I used to like them in TAR 12. But in this season, Kent is really annoying to watch!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Coutzy on April 19, 2011, 01:01:23 AM
U-turned or not, I just hope the cowboys survive this leg.. :(

Maybe its time the goths be out... :snicker: Kent is very irritating to watch... Poor Vyksin...

yea no kidding.  it kind of reminds me of how nick was acting towards vicki.  always complaining and not contributing.

Yup, it's like a total replay of TAR 17 ._. I used to like them in TAR 12. But in this season, Kent is really annoying to watch!

Keep in mind at the mat that Vyx made a comment about their "Hot and cold" feelings and attitude that leg, and ask yourself- How much of the aforementioned "hot" did we get to see as opposed to the "cold"?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 19, 2011, 01:09:08 AM
U-turned or not, I just hope the cowboys survive this leg.. :(

Maybe its time the goths be out... :snicker: Kent is very irritating to watch... Poor Vyksin...

yea no kidding.  it kind of reminds me of how nick was acting towards vicki.  always complaining and not contributing.

Yup, it's like a total replay of TAR 17 ._. I used to like them in TAR 12. But in this season, Kent is really annoying to watch!

Keep in mind at the mat that Vyx made a comment about their "Hot and cold" feelings and attitude that leg, and ask yourself- How much of the aforementioned "hot" did we get to see as opposed to the "cold"?

I loved it when vyx told kent to stop acting like a chick! lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2011, 01:11:46 AM
I tried to nab a few of the MAT chats watch shots

Mallory on Mat w/ Phil:

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Jet on Mat w/ Phil:

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Jet in later post race confessional:

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Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Coutzy on April 19, 2011, 01:13:13 AM
Look's like J/C hit the mat at about 3:50-3:55 and their confessionals happened at 6:15

As for G/M, about... 3:10 ish? Except that can't be a 3 if G/M were last. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 19, 2011, 01:22:49 AM
Look's like J/C hit the mat at about 3:50-3:55 and their confessionals happened at 6:15

As for G/M, about... 3:10 ish?

This is for which leg? :) The upcoming switzerland or the Austria one? haha!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2011, 01:50:41 AM
MAT arrival times for the last leg..was looking for time separations.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 19, 2011, 01:56:26 AM
From the previews, I would think that Zev/Justin and Jet/Cord were victums of the W-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 19, 2011, 04:11:46 AM
From the previews, I would think that Zev/Justin and Jet/Cord were victums of the W-Turn.

that's exactly what I thought... I'm guessing that Zev/Justin got u-turned first and they have a time to change and then they u-turned the cowboys to get ahead? and some team told them that they got u-turned so they've decided not to change their clothes.

So Kisha and Jen are the only ones that I think will u-turn Zev/Justin because Gary and Mal probably can't cause they boys are probably ahead of them.. I'm pretty sure that the globetrotters wouldn't u-turn them too and the goths have used their u-turn... and they saw the cowboys behind them and decided to u-turn them just to make up time... does it make sense?

sorry if I'm trying too hard! XD
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 19, 2011, 06:42:01 AM
From the previews, I would think that Zev/Justin and Jet/Cord were victums of the W-Turn.

that's exactly what I thought... I'm guessing that Zev/Justin got u-turned first and they have a time to change and then they u-turned the cowboys to get ahead? and some team told them that they got u-turned so they've decided not to change their clothes.

So Kisha and Jen are the only ones that I think will u-turn Zev/Justin because Gary and Mal probably can't cause they boys are probably ahead of them.. I'm pretty sure that the globetrotters wouldn't u-turn them too and the goths have used their u-turn... and they saw the cowboys behind them and decided to u-turn them just to make up time... does it make sense?

sorry if I'm trying too hard! XD

Hmm.. it's extremely hard to predict anything from the previews. Who knows kent/vyxin are the one eliminated instead of those that are u-turned. From the previews, Jet/Cord are looking pretty serious.. (or do they look serious all the time LOL). Whatever it is, i really hope to see the cowboys survive. I would love to see them in the glacier leg. :) Cowboys on top of a glacier is just epic :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 19, 2011, 08:59:19 AM
From the previews, I would think that Zev/Justin and Jet/Cord were victums of the W-Turn.

My thoughts exactly.I hope the cowboys survive!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: north09 on April 19, 2011, 09:37:27 AM
From the previews, I would think that Zev/Justin and Jet/Cord were victums of the W-Turn.

that's exactly what I thought... I'm guessing that Zev/Justin got u-turned first and they have a time to change and then they u-turned the cowboys to get ahead? and some team told them that they got u-turned so they've decided not to change their clothes.

So Kisha and Jen are the only ones that I think will u-turn Zev/Justin because Gary and Mal probably can't cause they boys are probably ahead of them.. I'm pretty sure that the globetrotters wouldn't u-turn them too and the goths have used their u-turn... and they saw the cowboys behind them and decided to u-turn them just to make up time... does it make sense?

sorry if I'm trying too hard! XD

Hmm.. it's extremely hard to predict anything from the previews. Who knows kent/vyxin are the one eliminated instead of those that are u-turned. From the previews, Jet/Cord are looking pretty serious.. (or do they look serious all the time LOL). Whatever it is, i really hope to see the cowboys survive. I would love to see them in the glacier leg. :) Cowboys on top of a glacier is just epic :)

It is hard to predict right now who is U-Turned. The cowboys are likley based on their edit and the previews. What I'm not geetting is the spec on Zev/Justin because of their reaction to the food. The only thing it really sows is that they participate in that side of the detour. I think there is always a chance that the cowboys are the only team U-turned. I hope that we get more from CBS about the U-Turn for this leg. But the fact that they didn't show it in the preview makes me think it may not have any real effect on the outcome.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
Yes, we do need to wait for another promo before we keep making assumptions.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 19, 2011, 09:56:41 AM
In cap #3 you can see the Globetrotters getting into a cab in the background.
Which means the teams are bunched by the train from Salzburg.
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Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 19, 2011, 10:01:15 AM
Comment deleted because I am an idiot!   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 10:04:05 AM
Good eye, WP! I don't know how anybody else missed that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 19, 2011, 10:08:51 AM
From the previews, I would think that Zev/Justin and Jet/Cord were victums of the W-Turn.

It is hard to predict right now who is U-Turned. The cowboys are likley based on their edit and the previews. What I'm not geetting is the spec on Zev/Justin because of their reaction to the food. The only thing it really sows is that they participate in that side of the detour. I think there is always a chance that the cowboys are the only team U-turned. I hope that we get more from CBS about the U-Turn for this leg. But the fact that they didn't show it in the preview makes me think it may not have any real effect on the outcome.

north09......

My spec, which you seem to have problems with, is just that my speculation. It is based on several things.
1) the CBS announcement that we have a W-Turn.
2) the vid cap showing Zev/Justin doing the food side of the detour
3) comments that Zev/Justin made at the end of the previous leg about food challenges and they should have done the physical challenge first
4) the fact that Zev/Justin passed all the other teams in the previous leg to win the cars and now have a bull's eye on their chest.

I am not asking anyone to agree with me, but I am just stating what I think at this time. If we get more info, then certainly my spec can change. It is not cast in concrete or carved in stone.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on April 19, 2011, 10:09:55 AM
U-turned or not, I just hope the cowboys survive this leg.. :(

Maybe its time the goths be out... :snicker: Kent is very irritating to watch... Poor Vyksin...

yea no kidding.  it kind of reminds me of how nick was acting towards vicki.  always complaining and not contributing.

Yup, it's like a total replay of TAR 17 ._. I used to like them in TAR 12. But in this season, Kent is really annoying to watch!

Keep in mind at the mat that Vyx made a comment about their "Hot and cold" feelings and attitude that leg, and ask yourself- How much of the aforementioned "hot" did we get to see as opposed to the "cold"?

I loved it when vyx told kent to stop acting like a chick! lol
Kent & Vyxsin are a great team not the cowboys!!!!!!!!!  :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 10:12:19 AM
It does seem strange that Zev and Justin would choose another eating task...I just wonder why the Cowboys are wearing the bellboy outfits and Zev and Justin are not. :duno:
It is not impossible that Zev and Justin are U-Turned since they have won the most legs...they could very well be U-Turned if one of the teams is thinking logically.
Moreover, I speculate that an emotional U-Turn would be directed at the Goths.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 10:14:08 AM
U-turned or not, I just hope the cowboys survive this leg.. :(

Maybe its time the goths be out... :snicker: Kent is very irritating to watch... Poor Vyksin...

yea no kidding.  it kind of reminds me of how nick was acting towards vicki.  always complaining and not contributing.

Yup, it's like a total replay of TAR 17 ._. I used to like them in TAR 12. But in this season, Kent is really annoying to watch!

Like I always say about the editing theory, the racer still did do or say the negative thing. :lol:

The cowboys can overcome any task if they want to, scruffs!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: StephenWasHere on April 19, 2011, 11:43:21 AM
Hmm..I have a feeling that Zev/Justin weren't victims of the W-Turn. I'm assuming Justin is frustrated, but my guess would just be because it isn't tasty. I don't think that Z/J were W-Turned by Kisha/Jen because they seem to be close on Twitter. This is probably all just wishful thinking from a Z/J fan though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 19, 2011, 11:50:09 AM
Well if the Cowboys and  the Goths are U-Turned, I think we know who will win the other side of the detour (( Cowboys likely :neener: )) but it depends who is U-Turned 1st.

I think either Goths, Cowboys, or Gary and Mallory are eliminated.


Zev and Justin are just  :duno: until we get another preview.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 11:52:54 AM
I think either Goths, Cowboys, or Gary and Mallory are eliminated.

Gary and Mallory will most likely not be eliminated if they are not U-Turned.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 19, 2011, 12:10:31 PM
I think either Goths, Cowboys, or Gary and Mallory are eliminated.

Gary and Mallory will most likely not be eliminated if they are not U-Turned.

Probably - They would have to SCREW UP badly to get eliminated without the U-turn. But it also depends what the Speed Bump is?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 12:11:48 PM
Yes, the difficulty level of the Speed Bump is also a factor. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: StephenWasHere on April 19, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
Yes, the difficulty level of the Speed Bump is also a factor. :tup:

Hopefully, the Speed Bump won't be too difficult! I really hope Gary/Mal make it through this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 19, 2011, 12:15:50 PM
Isn't fondue supposed to be really hot??? If this is another time-framed eating challenge, I guess it would be a big problem for the teams to finish it without burning your tongues...

It's not the food, cheese fondue is delicious. I'd say they also have to drink something like this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Fuersteneck_Kirschwasser.jpg/279px-Fuersteneck_Kirschwasser.jpg)
Which is good too, but if you are not used to strong alcohol, it is really... mm... strong.


Hopefully the drinking part is after the driving part!!   :colors

It would be socially irresponsible of TAR to have the racers drink alcohol and then get on mopeds to drive around Lichtenstein.

I will speculate Roadblock ==> Detour(s) ==> PitStop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
Yes, the difficulty level of the Speed Bump is also a factor. :tup:

Hopefully, the Speed Bump won't be too difficult! I really hope Gary/Mal make it through this leg.

I really hope so too! :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dånooky on April 19, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
So, the alcohol shouldn't come before the moped task, which makes me believe the measuring task is a Route Info. It makes more sense to send both team mates from one side of Liechtenstein to the other and then continue racing, rather than making one team member go two-ways and then have them go again.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 12:25:17 PM
Neobie has already laid out the order of things for this week. I see your point, Dan but a roadblock after the W-turn like it should be would be late at night.


It looks like, to me:
Pit Start at Salzburg, before 6.00am
Train from Salzburg to Feldkirch, around 6.30am
Taxi from Feldkirch to Liechtenstein, around 10.00am
Roadblock at Liechtenstein: Moped measurement, around 10.30am
Taxi (or, a smaller possibility, bus) from Liechtenstein to Sargans, around 11.30am
Train from Sargans to Zermatt, around 12.00pm
Detour at Zermatt: Luggage or Fondue (Cheesy Costumes or Cheesy Cuisine - just a joking guess), around 6.00pm
Pit Stop at Zermatt, around 7.30pm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2011, 12:44:45 PM
Neobie is correct, of course!!

The RB is the Liechtenstein portion (moped task), so the Speedbump will be there too>>followed by train to Zermatt>>Detours (thanks Neobie!!) >>Pitstop (location to be determined).

Glacier tasks are for next week.

This looks like a very sad leg to be U-turned on.... not much time to play catch up.  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tobertz on April 19, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
I think the Speed Bump would really not be that difficult like Roadblock or Detours, I mean think about those speed bumps last seasons like sitting on ice, washing tanks, staying in sauna etc. Those speed bumps are not like solving puzzles, they're just tasks that can be finish in an average or fixed time.

But i'm really worried about G/M's position,,, I'm rooting for them...  :'(

I also speculate the Trotters u-turning K/V since the goths were the cause of them being U-turn by cheerleaders in China... It would also be interesting if they U-turn them right in front of their faces!  :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 19, 2011, 12:56:09 PM
So, the alcohol shouldn't come before the moped task, which makes me believe the measuring task is a Route Info. It makes more sense to send both team mates from one side of Liechtenstein to the other and then continue racing, rather than making one team member go two-ways and then have them go again.

It is possible that the other teammate rides along in the camera van or is transported to the end of the RB by other means. Then both teammates would be close (~2-3 miles) to the railroad station in Sargans. TPTB could also tell the teams to run/walk to the train station.

I have always assumed that the moped RB would end at one of those two bridges across the Rhine, SW of Balzers, for the HD cameras. If on the other hand if TPTB were in stealth mode, there is an isolated land crossing back into Switzerland SE of Balzers. This would take teams to the town of Bad Ragaz, which just happens to be a stop on that Chur-Zurich train that Kisha/Jen were seen on.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: selkie on April 19, 2011, 02:13:14 PM
I think the Speed Bump would really not be that difficult like Roadblock or Detours, I mean think about those speed bumps last seasons like sitting on ice, washing tanks, staying in sauna etc. Those speed bumps are not like solving puzzles, they're just tasks that can be finish in an average or fixed time.

Seems like in the past, the Speedbump has essentially been a 20-40 minute time penalty (depending on the given leg) that's essentially a fixed duration rather than something that a Racer has much control over how long it will take, and serve as a bonus chance to show local scenery or culture without being a huge expense to Production.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: serendipity on April 19, 2011, 02:21:47 PM
Neobie is correct, of course!!

The RB is the Liechtenstein portion (moped task), so the Speedbump will be there too>>followed by train to Zermatt>>Detours (thanks Neobie!!) >>Pitstop (location to be determined).

Glacier tasks are for next week.

This looks like a very sad leg to be U-turned on.... not much time to play catch up.  :'(

Well, if that's the case, then other teams may get bunched up for Gary/Mallory to finish the speedbump and catch the same train to Zermatt.  That would make sense for the W-turn since it will be everyone's game again in Zermatt and no unfair advantage to Gary/Mallory. It will depend on who finish the detour first and then find the W-turn mat.

I also think that Zev/Justin may get U-turned for the fact that they do a food task after all the Vienna experience.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 19, 2011, 02:23:49 PM
I think they're having the fondue at

http://www.walliserkanne.ch/walliserkanne_zermatt_restaurant_en.htm (http://www.walliserkanne.ch/walliserkanne_zermatt_restaurant_en.htm)

in the Rustic room there based on comparing
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0506.jpg)25

with

one of their 360 views:

(http://i52.[banned image hosting site].com/2nvchw8.jpg)

Two photos by people (http://gu-ta.ciao.jp/europe/photo/12-14/Walliser_Kanne_3.gif) of the fondue pot at the restaurant (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_wLQDsmYmRrI/S79XWO4F3TI/AAAAAAAAMDg/Y-gn4JoL0_w/s640/IMG_9126.JPG) for comparison purposes.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Reilly Queens on April 19, 2011, 02:24:51 PM
Fondue <333 Lucky racers! Give me some!!! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 02:25:28 PM
It's a match, raina! :hearts: Good work! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
Looks good to me too Raina!!  :wohoo:

That is some great work!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: doedoe on April 19, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
Love this site, but I'm new here.  I have most of the lingo figured out but what is a W-turn?

I know I'm going to go daaaaa, of course!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 03:22:45 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, doedoe!

W-Turn is slang for Double U-Turn. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 19, 2011, 03:23:09 PM
Love this site, but I'm new here.  I have most of the lingo figured out but what is a W-turn?

I know I'm going to go daaaaa, of course!

Welcome to RFF! It stands for Double U-turn :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: doedoe on April 19, 2011, 03:25:26 PM
You see I was right...daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 19, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
I know knowing the restaurant and its location doesn't help with figuring out the order of anything, but can't hurt either. :)  

---

I am way too new to officially welcome you, doedoe, but welcome!  This is one of the nicest boards I've ever been to!

I see that the W-Turn question has been answered already.  

---
I am feeling pretty good for Justin and Zev not being U-Turned mainly because they're not wearing the uniforms that the Cowboys are wearing.   Hopefully there's a new promo soon!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
Any accurate information is helpful, raina! :tup: I mean, I would have never had the patience to find the restaurant! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: chill_sd on April 19, 2011, 04:06:36 PM
Every bit of info is useful.  Verifying that the Detour takes place in Zermatt helps to nail down that part of the leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 19, 2011, 04:53:07 PM
it also might help us determain what time the teams got there (using the hours of the resturant) which could help us figure out whos eliminated. im also wondering does any1 have any ideas what the speed bump could b?  darn producers  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 19, 2011, 05:21:35 PM
It's a huge restaurant, probably why they chose it.  The website says it's open from 8 am to midnight with the kitchen being open from 12 pm to 2 pm and 6 pm to 10 pm.  So what do people do from 8 am to 12 pm there?   :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 05:33:51 PM
:welcome: to RFF, Tarfan37!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 19, 2011, 05:34:20 PM
I commenter a few pages back had the same thought as me. I too find it strange that after the eating trouble from the last leg, that Z/J would do it again. Unless they were U-turned.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dånooky on April 19, 2011, 05:39:35 PM
It's a huge restaurant, probably why they chose it.  The website says it's open from 8 am to midnight with the kitchen being open from 12 pm to 2 pm and 6 pm to 10 pm.  So what do people do from 8 am to 12 pm there?   :duno:
coffee, pastries, bistro, sandwiches, etc...the kitchen usually refers to more elaborate entrees.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 05:50:28 PM
Here's a slightly different press release:

Quote
AN IMPENDING DOUBLE U-TURN PUTS THE REMAINING TEAMS ON EDGE, AND ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, APRIL 24

What's the purpose of using a specific word like nightmare?? We know it is going to be dark out when they begin, probably after 18:00 at the earliest.
Is someone there all night? The restaurant's website says they are open til midnight.  :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dånooky on April 19, 2011, 06:28:07 PM
Here's a slightly different press release:

Quote
AN IMPENDING DOUBLE U-TURN PUTS THE REMAINING TEAMS ON EDGE, AND ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, APRIL 24

What's the purpose of using a specific word like nightmare?? We know it is going to be dark out when they begin, probably after 18:00 at the earliest.
Is someone there all night? The restaurant's website says they are open til midnight.  :ascared
figure of speech, most probably
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 19, 2011, 06:48:19 PM
I commenter a few pages back had the same thought as me. I too find it strange that after the eating trouble from the last leg, that Z/J would do it again. Unless they were U-turned.

I agree; I don't think Z/J would have chosen it again unless they were U-Turned. However I can't really think of who would U-Turn them, other than the cowboys (and a very small chance of Gary/Mallory or Kisha/Jen, I suppose...) And it could always be something like, if they weren't able to find the location of the first Detour and decided to just pick the second one. Still...I think Z/J are one of the more probable teams to get U-Turned especially with the target on their backs.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: El Gado on April 19, 2011, 07:17:04 PM
Hey there, im new to this forum and I will try to help as all of you guys!

Me and my mom support the cowboys and seeing that they might get u-turned... we are worried now

BTW sorry if this is a noooob question but where do you heard that there is a w-turn?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 19, 2011, 07:19:22 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, El Gado!
A press release told us that there will be a W-Turn in this leg. It's somewhere in this thread.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: El Gado on April 19, 2011, 07:44:26 PM
well seeing the cowboys with some sort of militar outfit and Zev/Justin without it at the fondue task makes me think thay they will be u turned...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: jiajia12 on April 19, 2011, 08:19:59 PM
I think the Cowboys were U turned. They werent with Zev and justin at that time.
and Zev/Justin were there earlier.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 19, 2011, 08:31:37 PM
I think the Cowboys were U turned. They werent with Zev and justin at that time.
and Zev/Justin were there earlier.

Can't really assume that Zev/Justin came earlier. Haha. One thing for sure the cowboys are u-turned.
HOWEVER, "ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY". This literally just tells us that the team that was having trouble consuming the swiss delicacy will definitely have a 95% chance of being eliminated.
Nightmare of a time = must have taken a long time to eat it. Unless someone actually screwed up really bad at the other detour, this team is sure to be sent home.

Looking at the preview, Zev/Justin really look like they're having a really bad time eating that thing.
And Justin said "Zev this is crazy". Im pretty sure he would have done the other task if he could right?
Which makes more sense that Zev/Justin & Jet/Cord are u-turned. Haha.

But who knows that after all these stressing bout whos being u-turned, in reality, kent/vyxin were the one who actually got eliminated haha!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 19, 2011, 08:41:45 PM
Hello! new to RFF
OK this has been making me worried... how do yall know there is really a double u-turn and how do yall know that jet and cord were u-turned.
 Cord had that suit on bc that was FROM HIS CHIMNEY SWEEP road block!!! in Austria!!!  :snicker: :snicker: :snicker:
I think ANYBODY can be u-turned at this point.
top victims for u-turning:
Zev and Justin, Gallory, Jet and Cord.
JET AND CORD FTW!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lutpay on April 19, 2011, 08:49:41 PM
Hello! new to RFF
OK this has been making me worried... how do yall know there is really a double u-turn and how do yall know that jet and cord were u-turned.
 Cord had that suit on bc that was FROM HIS CHIMNEY SWEEP road block!!! in Austria!!!  :snicker: :snicker: :snicker:
I think ANYBODY can be u-turned at this point.
top victims for u-turning:
Zev and Justin, Gallory, Jet and Cord.
JET AND CORD FTW!!!!

Unfortunately, Jet is wearing that outfit too..

welcome to rff!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 19, 2011, 08:56:34 PM
Guys, when does CBS normally release a new video promo? Every tuesday yeah? :)

And welcome auburnsuperfan97 to RFF! :D
 :bigwelcome

Wonder how many ppl actually smacked their pc/laptop screen cos of my insect avatar... haha!  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on April 19, 2011, 08:57:55 PM
I think the Cowboys were U turned. They werent with Zev and justin at that time.
and Zev/Justin were there earlier.
Yea right  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Can't really assume that Zev/Justin came earlier. Haha. One thing for sure the cowboys are u-turned.
HOWEVER, "ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY". This literally just tells us that the team that was having trouble consuming the swiss delicacy will definitely have a 95% chance of being eliminated.
Nightmare of a time = must have taken a long time to eat it. Unless someone actually screwed up really bad at the other detour, this team is sure to be sent home.

Looking at the preview, Zev/Justin really look like they're having a really bad time eating that thing.
And Justin said "Zev this is crazy". Im pretty sure he would have done the other task if he could right?
Which makes more sense that Zev/Justin & Jet/Cord are u-turned. Haha.

But who knows that after all these stressing bout whos being u-turned, in reality, kent/vyxin were the one who actually got eliminated haha!
Yea right :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 19, 2011, 09:01:56 PM
If somebody can answer my question.. please do  :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
How do yall know theres a u-turn or double u-turn
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 19, 2011, 09:06:32 PM
Ok we know that there is a cheese-fondue detour. what is the other side  :umn: :umn: :umn: :umn: :umn:
LOL this episode will be awesome.
and i hope there will be an intersection since there are even number of teams  :hearts: :hearts: ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 19, 2011, 09:07:41 PM
auburnsuperfan................there is a CBS announcement of the W Turn this week.

Also, that is a different uniform than the chimney sweep uniform. It appears that Jet/Cord have realized that it wastes time to take off the costumes they have to wear...........they can take them off at the mat.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 19, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
Cant wait till Sunday. If Jet and Cord were to be last to check in..i hope it is a TBC leg but thats not likely.
I doubt Jet and Cord would struggle @ the detour(s) if they get u-turned... they are never ones to struggle or give up!
This is def. not the leg to have to lose time in! I hope Gallory, Kynt and Vyxsin or Kisha and Jen mess up somewhere to help the cowboys catch up IF! they are u-turned.
Im glad this is a DOUBLE U-turn instead of a single u-turn where it makes it a little easier on one of the teams u-turned so they arent alone and far behind.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 19, 2011, 09:21:33 PM
Comparing viewpoints of this moped cap with GE, it looks like he is southwest of Eschen, traveling north.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 19, 2011, 09:28:45 PM
Here's a slightly different press release:

Quote
AN IMPENDING DOUBLE U-TURN PUTS THE REMAINING TEAMS ON EDGE, AND ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, APRIL 24

What's the purpose of using a specific word like nightmare?? We know it is going to be dark out when they begin, probably after 18:00 at the earliest.
Is someone there all night? The restaurant's website says they are open til midnight.  :ascared
figure of speech, most probably

I'm actually inclined to think like The Prophet that 'nightmare' has a meaning like that. In the previous releases they've used phrases like "a desperate plunge" and Vyxsin literally jumped into the water; "costly mistake" and Ron/Christina did get eliminated because of the mistake. But we never know. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 19, 2011, 09:54:23 PM
Hmm..I have a feeling that Zev/Justin weren't victims of the W-Turn. I'm assuming Justin is frustrated, but my guess would just be because it isn't tasty. I don't think that Z/J were W-Turned by Kisha/Jen because they seem to be close on Twitter. This is probably all just wishful thinking from a Z/J fan though.

yeah that's true, but that's after the race already and that's why they are close... but they are still racing during this leg...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Arubato on April 19, 2011, 11:27:23 PM
hiiii im new too LOL

my totally ridiculous/random speculation:
Gary & Mallory are u-turned by Kisha & Jen because they show scenes of K&J jokingly trying to screw them up
so it'll be like:
"We think you're lying!" *everyone laughs*
"They're trying to get there as late as possible" *everyone laughs*
*Gary & Mallory are u-turned* *Kisha & Jen laugh*
ALSO
im pretty sure the cowboys are u-turned because maybe they make another final "minor" mistake and it ends up allowing other teams to get to the u-turn first.
i was also gonna guess the globetrotters u-turning kynt and vyxsin but someone else said it first >.>
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: AmazingRace on April 20, 2011, 12:00:34 AM
:welcome: Arubato and to all who have just joined us.  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 20, 2011, 12:12:12 AM
im glad to see a lot of new people chiming in.  i've been reading this forum for what seems like forever now, but am never home at the right time to contribute.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 12:37:09 AM
I know I have missed some of you, so a BIG :bigwelcome to all of you joining RFF for the first time!

And for those of you who were asking "how do you know", the first 4 posts of the episode threads are updated as we go with press releases and promos, so worth checking there.

Have fun, everyone!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Squall16 on April 20, 2011, 01:18:11 AM
Okay... So i've been stalking this group forever because I love the Amazing Race! .... And I decided to join!!

Don't know all the lingo yet but hopefully will get there!

Now something pertaining to this forum:
I agree that Jet/Cord are U-turned, and possibly Zev/Justin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 01:32:09 AM
:welcome: to RFF, squall 16!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 20, 2011, 02:39:43 AM
Quote
AN IMPENDING DOUBLE U-TURN PUTS THE REMAINING TEAMS ON EDGE, AND ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, APRIL 24

"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24
 

Whats up with CBS emphasizing on "ONE". Are they gonna get eliminated or what lol! The more CBS emphasize the more SAFER that team would be aint it. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 20, 2011, 03:03:10 AM
Quote
AN IMPENDING DOUBLE U-TURN PUTS THE REMAINING TEAMS ON EDGE, AND ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, APRIL 24

"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24
 

Whats up with CBS emphasizing on "ONE". Are they gonna get eliminated or what lol! The more CBS emphasize the more SAFER that team would be aint it. :duno:

Well in the promos, yeah usually, but when it comes to these TV-Guide things, not really.

For example, last 2 weeks we had
"One team member makes a costly mistake in the roadblock" (When Christina/Ron was eliminated)
AND last week we had
" and a hefty meal proves to be too big for some teams' stomachs" (When Gallory came last place)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: florida on April 20, 2011, 03:39:25 AM
Thanks to racer for the title find!


AN IMPENDING DOUBLE U-TURN PUTS THE REMAINING TEAMS ON EDGE,
AND ONE TEAM HAS A NIGHTMARE OF A TIME TRYING TO CONSUME A SWISS DELICACY, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, APRIL 24

"We're Good American People" (Switzerland) - The stress of the Race begins to take its toll when a Double U-Turn is revealed, and one Team struggles to consume a local delicacy while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, April 24
 


The W-Turn has to be revealed in the Pit Start clue.


And just because "one team struggles" doesn't exactly mean that only one team is U-Turned.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 20, 2011, 04:19:53 AM
the cowboys are in serious trouble

prey for them.....

are we sure that detour comes before roadblock?

who can recall all the previous seasons' U-turn legs?

Is it normally detour first or roadblock first in U-turn legs?

I did a bit search. Normally detour first.  then u-turn teams have roadblock to catch up.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: lovingtar on April 20, 2011, 05:28:50 AM
Hi everyone! Long time reader, first time post.

Just a few thoughts on Kirschwasser (Kirsh for short)... having a Swiss sister in law means that I have had many cheese fondues in my time!

Kirsh is a common ingredient in making cheese fondue (helps keep the cheese smooth, otherwise it may clump).

Kirsh is also drunk to help with the digestion of the cheese... if you eat too much over a long period of time, the cheese kinda clumps inside your stomach which can give you really bad stomach pain.  The kirsh helps in keeping the cheese moving... considering the amount of fondue in the pan for two people, could be a real possibility one of the team members could be having problems with stomach pain.

The sister in law also mentioned that sometimes, when they are eating fondue with friends, they will have a 'rule' that if you lose your bread in the fondue, you then have to take a shot of kirsch.  This could possibly be something they could have to do... if you lose your piece of bread from the fondue stick in the cheese, you have to take a shot of kirsch... just speculation.

As a side note, Kirsh is a type of cherry brandy, but it is not sweet.  It is very very strong and if you are not a big alcohol drinker, getting it down is very difficult... I refuse to have any when I am visiting my family.

Just thought I would share some of my own experiences with fondue!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: graytex on April 20, 2011, 07:37:16 AM
Welcome lovingtar!

That is very helpful.  I've been wondering why the teams are making such awful faces eating cheese!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: flair0310 on April 20, 2011, 07:49:55 AM
I just wonder, why two food tasks in a row  :duno:  Although, they are detours, I can't see (unless you are u-turned) that the fondue is a viable option ...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 08:26:22 AM
Hi everyone! Long time reader, first time post.

Just a few thoughts on Kirschwasser (Kirsh for short)... having a Swiss sister in law means that I have had many cheese fondues in my time!

Kirsh is a common ingredient in making cheese fondue (helps keep the cheese smooth, otherwise it may clump).

Kirsh is also drunk to help with the digestion of the cheese... if you eat too much over a long period of time, the cheese kinda clumps inside your stomach which can give you really bad stomach pain.  The kirsh helps in keeping the cheese moving... considering the amount of fondue in the pan for two people, could be a real possibility one of the team members could be having problems with stomach pain.

The sister in law also mentioned that sometimes, when they are eating fondue with friends, they will have a 'rule' that if you lose your bread in the fondue, you then have to take a shot of kirsch.  This could possibly be something they could have to do... if you lose your piece of bread from the fondue stick in the cheese, you have to take a shot of kirsch... just speculation.

As a side note, Kirsh is a type of cherry brandy, but it is not sweet.  It is very very strong and if you are not a big alcohol drinker, getting it down is very difficult... I refuse to have any when I am visiting my family.

Just thought I would share some of my own experiences with fondue!

:bigwelcome to RFF, lovingtar! This looks like very helpful information!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 08:30:42 AM
:welcome: also to auburnsuperfan, Arubato, and Squall16! Thanks for joining in!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 20, 2011, 09:02:27 AM
Hi everyone! Long time reader, first time post.

Just a few thoughts on Kirschwasser (Kirsh for short)... having a Swiss sister in law means that I have had many cheese fondues in my time!

Kirsh is a common ingredient in making cheese fondue (helps keep the cheese smooth, otherwise it may clump).

Kirsh is also drunk to help with the digestion of the cheese... if you eat too much over a long period of time, the cheese kinda clumps inside your stomach which can give you really bad stomach pain.  The kirsh helps in keeping the cheese moving... considering the amount of fondue in the pan for two people, could be a real possibility one of the team members could be having problems with stomach pain.

The sister in law also mentioned that sometimes, when they are eating fondue with friends, they will have a 'rule' that if you lose your bread in the fondue, you then have to take a shot of kirsch.  This could possibly be something they could have to do... if you lose your piece of bread from the fondue stick in the cheese, you have to take a shot of kirsch... just speculation.

As a side note, Kirsh is a type of cherry brandy, but it is not sweet.  It is very very strong and if you are not a big alcohol drinker, getting it down is very difficult... I refuse to have any when I am visiting my family.

Just thought I would share some of my own experiences with fondue!

Remember back in Season 16 where Jet and Cord did good on the drinking task, but admitted that they haven't drunk beer and never again will... This time they will face drinking brandy... I do hope they would still do great in drinking... It's just all mind over matter... As for winning the leg, drinking brandy won't stop, but I guess they will say again that they won't drink it again ever.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Coutzy on April 20, 2011, 09:40:35 AM
Hi everyone! Long time reader, first time post.

Just a few thoughts on Kirschwasser (Kirsh for short)... having a Swiss sister in law means that I have had many cheese fondues in my time!

Kirsh is a common ingredient in making cheese fondue (helps keep the cheese smooth, otherwise it may clump).

Kirsh is also drunk to help with the digestion of the cheese... if you eat too much over a long period of time, the cheese kinda clumps inside your stomach which can give you really bad stomach pain.  The kirsh helps in keeping the cheese moving... considering the amount of fondue in the pan for two people, could be a real possibility one of the team members could be having problems with stomach pain.

The sister in law also mentioned that sometimes, when they are eating fondue with friends, they will have a 'rule' that if you lose your bread in the fondue, you then have to take a shot of kirsch.  This could possibly be something they could have to do... if you lose your piece of bread from the fondue stick in the cheese, you have to take a shot of kirsch... just speculation.

As a side note, Kirsh is a type of cherry brandy, but it is not sweet.  It is very very strong and if you are not a big alcohol drinker, getting it down is very difficult... I refuse to have any when I am visiting my family.

Just thought I would share some of my own experiences with fondue!

Remember back in Season 16 where Jet and Cord did good on the drinking task, but admitted that they haven't drunk beer and never again will... This time they will face drinking brandy... I do hope they would still do great in drinking... It's just all mind over matter... As for winning the leg, drinking brandy won't stop, but I guess they will say again that they won't drink it again ever.

Beer is an acquired taste. Brandy is always terrible. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 10:27:06 AM
One of the BEST bits of this ep is that the speculation that K/J were decoys when seen on the train can FINALLY be put to rest!! :jumpy:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg580353.html#msg580353
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 20, 2011, 11:13:51 AM
One of the BEST bits of this ep is that the speculation that K/J were decoys when seen on the train can FINALLY be put to rest!! :jumpy:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg580353.html#msg580353

Amen, Peach!!!  Decoy activities are pretty specific..........riding a train across Switzerland is not one of them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 11:18:53 AM
One of the BEST bits of this ep is that the speculation that K/J were decoys when seen on the train can FINALLY be put to rest!! :jumpy:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg580353.html#msg580353


Amen, Peach!!!  Decoy activities are pretty specific..........riding a train across Switzerland is not one of them.

I know! I have had a hard time staying  :-X !! You can only say I don't think they were decoys so many times.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on April 20, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
the cowboys are in serious trouble

prey for them.....

are we sure that detour comes before roadblock?

who can recall all the previous seasons' U-turn legs?

Is it normally detour first or roadblock first in U-turn legs?

I did a bit search. Normally detour first.  then u-turn teams have roadblock to catch up.


Ever since the U-Turn was created in Season 12, on the legs that contain a U-Turn, the Detour has always been before the Roadblock, so this leg would break the pattern. I will sum up all the U-Turns for you, if this helps:

Season 12, Leg 4 - "Shake Your Pan, Shake Your Booty" Detour (Shana & Jennifer U-Turn Lorena & Jason) then the bicycle Roadblock

Season 12, Leg 8 - "Paste 'Em, Thread 'Em" Detour (Kynt & Vyxsin mistakenly U-Turn Nicolas & Donald) then the gas delivery Roadblock

Season 13, Leg 3 - "Musical March, Bumpy Ride" Detour (Unused U-Turn) then the fighting cholitas Roadblock

Season 13, Leg 9 - "Boots, Borscht" Detour (Unaired U-Turn, if I am not mistaken) then the bakery Roadblock

Season 14, Leg 4 - "Stack, Construct" Detour (Margie & Luke U-Turn Amanda & Kris) then the Chekhov Roadblock

Season 14, Leg 11 - "Beijing Opera, Chinese Waiter" Detour (Tammy & Victor U-Turn Kisha & Jen) then the eating Roadblock

Season 15 did not air any U-Turns, but if I am not mistaken, I think there was one on Leg 3, which had the Detour first also

Season 16, Leg 5 - "In The Trenches, Under Fire" Detour (Louie & Michael U-Turn Joe & Heidi) and this leg did not have a Roadblock

Season 16, Leg 9 - "Pounding The Drums, Pounding The Pavement" Detour (Brent & Caite U-Turn Carol & Brandy) then the chain counting Roadblock

Season 17, Leg 9 - "Balanced Meal, Balanced Bricks" Detour (Double U-Turn; Jill & Thomas -> Brook & Claire, Nat & Kat -> Chad & Stephanie) then the rickshaw assembling Roadblock

Season 18, Leg 5 - "Honor Past, Embrace Future" Detour (Double U-Turn; Kent & Vyxsin -> Jaime & Cara -> Flight Time & Big Easy) then the dinosaur Roadblock

Hope I haven't been off-topic B:) , but I hope this helps ! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 20, 2011, 11:38:21 AM
One of the BEST bits of this ep is that the speculation that K/J were decoys when seen on the train can FINALLY be put to rest!! :jumpy:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg580353.html#msg580353


Amen, Peach!!!  Decoy activities are pretty specific..........riding a train across Switzerland is not one of them.

I know! I have had a hard time staying  :-X !! You can only say I don't think they were decoys so many times.  :lol:
But what a great decoy idea!  Instead of sending the philiminated to a resort, put them on trains with a camera and sound guy. Let them get off the train in obscure places and run around doing wacky stuff.
Probably cheaper than Elimination Station and more fun.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Laimis on April 20, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
the cowboys are in serious trouble

prey for them.....

are we sure that detour comes before roadblock?

who can recall all the previous seasons' U-turn legs?

Is it normally detour first or roadblock first in U-turn legs?

I did a bit search. Normally detour first.  then u-turn teams have roadblock to catch up.




Season 15 did not air any U-Turns, but if I am not mistaken, I think there was one on Leg 3, which had the Detour first also



There was a U-turn used by Lance & Keri I think
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
Thanks racer! Great summary. I thought of Joe and Heidi when I saw the W U turn making an appearance. If you are going to have a tool that puts one team in charge of another team's destiny, at least plan it so they have a chance to catch up. grrr.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 20, 2011, 12:12:05 PM
the cowboys are in serious trouble

pray for them.....

are we sure that detour comes before roadblock?

who can recall all the previous seasons' U-turn legs?

Is it normally detour first or roadblock first in U-turn legs?

I did a bit search. Normally detour first.  then u-turn teams have roadblock to catch up.


Put the pieces together!

Not soldiers, not chimney sweepers... but BELLBOYS. :lol:

It looks like, to me:
Pit Start at Salzburg, before 6.00am
Train from Salzburg to Feldkirch, around 6.30am
Taxi from Feldkirch to Liechtenstein, around 10.00am
Roadblock at Liechtenstein: Moped measurement, around 10.30am
Taxi (or, a smaller possibility, bus) from Liechtenstein to Sargans, around 11.30am
Train from Sargans to Zermatt, around 12.00pm
Detour at Zermatt: Luggage or Fondue (Cheesy Costumes or Cheesy Cuisine - just a joking guess), around 6.00pm
Pit Stop at Zermatt, around 7.30pm

Upstream, on page 2 of this thread (and copied here), Neobie outlined this leg of the race.  There is a nice map too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 01:11:31 PM
Do keep an eye on the first 4 posts of this thread, am trying to keep an update going!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 02:43:18 PM
Really wish we could get a promo someday. :pull
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 20, 2011, 04:26:56 PM
i agree about the promo but we are to good for the producers :neener: but right now i think its route info to leichenstein(sp?) speedbump/ roadblock then detour/uturn possibly 2 more route infos b4 the pit stop i have a feeling there throwin an extra route info in there. any1 kno about the speed bump? though i mean think about it usually a speedbump is placed before a route info or detour usually
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
The course is:

Speedbump/Roadblock in Liechtenstein
Detour/Uturn in Zermatt
Pitstop>>Zermatt


Throw the route infos in wherever you want. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dånooky on April 20, 2011, 05:00:57 PM
Thanks racer! Great summary. I thought of Joe and Heidi when I saw the W U turn making an appearance. If you are going to have a tool that puts one team in charge of another team's destiny, at least plan it so they have a chance to catch up. grrr.
However, with the chance of now being two teams having to backtrack makes it less unfair in this case.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 05:23:01 PM
WHAT IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DETOUR ??? :ascared :ascared :ascared :ascared
its ok if yall dont know I was just wondering. I know one is the cheese fondue.. but idk the other.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 20, 2011, 05:27:48 PM
WHAT IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DETOUR ??? :ascared :ascared :ascared :ascared
its ok if yall dont know I was just wondering. I know one is the cheese fondue.. but idk the other.
According to what has been posted it's some kind of luggage task at one of the local hotels. Teams acting like bellhops?  I couldn't find any pictures that matched with the outfits we see Jet and Cord wearing.  They kind of look like the horse-carriage driver outfits from two of the luxury hotels, but the colors are all wrong.   And they're more bellhopy than those outfits anyway.  Just didn't think they fit the color schemes of those two hotels.  If only we had a location shot!

It would be nice if there was a route info or task after the detour.  It would be pretty late at night by the time they finish detours, though.  What's there to do so late in the night? 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 06:01:05 PM
Here's Neobie's report on the hotel business:


THE LOCAL HOTELS
There seems to have been a task with teams carrying luggage from the train station to hotels around the area. Teams were reportedly running up and down Bahnhofstrasse and Hinterdorfstrasse. Some possible hotels are the Mont Cervin Palace, the Hotel Phoenix and the Hotel Primavera. On another note, production was housed at the Hotel Ambassador, not far from the train station.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 06:12:49 PM
WHAT IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DETOUR ??? :ascared :ascared :ascared :ascared
its ok if yall dont know I was just wondering. I know one is the cheese fondue.. but idk the other.

Always a good idea to read the thread!! And as I said, the first 4 posts in this thread have updates and promos so you can find the answer there if you can't wade thru the whole thread.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 06:13:29 PM
Here's Neobie's report on the hotel business:


THE LOCAL HOTELS
There seems to have been a task with teams carrying luggage from the train station to hotels around the area. Teams were reportedly running up and down Bahnhofstrasse and Hinterdorfstrasse. Some possible hotels are the Mont Cervin Palace, the Hotel Phoenix and the Hotel Primavera. On another note, production was housed at the Hotel Ambassador, not far from the train station.

Thanks much  :tup: :tup: :tup:     i really do not want Jet and Cord eliminated! I would be very disappointed  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 20, 2011, 06:42:11 PM
Ok, so it looks like Gary/Mallory were tied with the pack until a certain point with the slow taxi. The question it, when is the taxi? All I can tell is that there is a bunch of yellow buses and there is definitely a bus lane. Is it a train station? From the looks of it, it's not Zermatt, because of the buses and buildings. And I do know there are yellow buses in Liechtenstein. If I were to make a guess, it looks a little bit like Vaduz, Liechtenstein.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 20, 2011, 06:57:35 PM
I have a gut feeling that says one of the globetrotters will say "We're Good American People".


I guess this line was said by a team when they are on the W-Turn Mat or just right after it. LOL
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
Ok, so it looks like Gary/Mallory were tied with the pack until a certain point with the slow taxi. The question it, when is the taxi? All I can tell is that there is a bunch of yellow buses and there is definitely a bus lane. Is it a train station? From the looks of it, it's not Zermatt, because of the buses and buildings. And I do know there are yellow buses in Liechtenstein. If I were to make a guess, it looks a little bit like Vaduz, Liechtenstein.


Gary and Mallory are chasing down a taxi at the train station in FELDKIRCH, AUSTRIA. This is the Austrian jumping-off point to Liechtenstein, and where I based myself because Liechtenstein was so crazily expensive to stay in!

(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/2035614-The_FeldkirchSchaan_bus-Vaduz.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 07:12:21 PM
I saw a promo on Survivor. The Globestrotters **MAY** U-Turn the Cowboys.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 20, 2011, 07:25:12 PM
why what was the conversation like that made you think this or is it up on cbs.com?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 07:26:31 PM
why what was the conversation like that made you think this or is it up on cbs.com?

It's complete speculation because they showed their confessionals consecutively and they were both talking big.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 20, 2011, 07:28:36 PM
o okay. for some reason i feel like kisha and jen will be uturned as well probably by Gallory. i think kisha and jen get lost or cant complete the road block most likely the former.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 20, 2011, 07:29:15 PM
why what was the conversation like that made you think this or is it up on cbs.com?

It's complete speculation because they showed their confessionals consecutively and they were both talking big.

By 'both,' do you mean Flight Time and Big Easy or the Globetrotters and the Cowboys?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 07:31:04 PM
In their confessionals (the Cowboys' and the Globetrotters'), they were both talking about being competitive. That's all I know.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 07:32:01 PM
One helpful thing I did see was the exact route they are taking on the mopeds. I also saw that Flight Time, Gary, and Jet are doing the Roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 20, 2011, 07:34:39 PM
In their confessionals (the Cowboys' and the Globetrotters'), they were both talking about being competitive. That's all I know.




Thanks :) hopefully the promo will be up soon.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 07:35:23 PM
I sure hope so too. :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 07:40:43 PM
Since the roadblock is relatively easy... Gallory have that speed bump @ one of those  :duno:    That wont help Gallory catch up w/ the pack much. Gallory need to not be u-turned in order to not be eliminated... Its a matter of who gets to that U-turn first. I really hope Jet and Cord get to the u-turn first and u-turn somebody... hopefully kent and vyxsin  :yess: :yess: :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on April 20, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
Since the roadblock is relatively easy... Gallory have that speed bump @ one of those  :duno:    That wont help Gallory catch up w/ the pack much. Gallory need to not be u-turned in order to not be eliminated... Its a matter of who gets to that U-turn first. I really hope Jet and Cord get to the u-turn first and u-turn somebody... hopefully kent and vyxsin  :yess: :yess: :yess:
We already know Jet and Cord get u turned so they CAN'T  be first at the u-turn :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 07:47:50 PM
Since the roadblock is relatively easy... Gallory have that speed bump @ one of those  :duno:    That wont help Gallory catch up w/ the pack much. Gallory need to not be u-turned in order to not be eliminated... Its a matter of who gets to that U-turn first. I really hope Jet and Cord get to the u-turn first and u-turn somebody... hopefully kent and vyxsin  :yess: :yess: :yess:
We already know Jet and Cord get u turned so they CAN'T  be first at the u-turn :tup: :tup: :tup:
Darn it  (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;)
Well... do yall know who else got u-turned? Im sure Jet and Cord are safe bc they are always successful @ detours.. ..very efficient!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 07:49:02 PM
We have no confirmation that anyone was U-Turned...we speculate that Jet and Cord were U-Turned. We don't know about anyone else. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 20, 2011, 07:49:24 PM
Since the roadblock is relatively easy... Gallory have that speed bump @ one of those  :duno:    That wont help Gallory catch up w/ the pack much. Gallory need to not be u-turned in order to not be eliminated... Its a matter of who gets to that U-turn first. I really hope Jet and Cord get to the u-turn first and u-turn somebody... hopefully kent and vyxsin  :yess: :yess: :yess:
We already know Jet and Cord get u turned so they CAN'T  be first at the u-turn :tup: :tup: :tup:
true but say they get there 2nd or 3rd they can still uturn the next team we saw this with jamie and cara use the uturn after being u-turned themselves.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 20, 2011, 07:51:13 PM
We have no confirmation that anyone was U-Turned...we speculate that Jet and Cord were U-Turned. We don't know about anyone else. :tup:
what i was saying before was that Gallory mite have one of those just sit there for 10 minute tasks. and if they dont see a team or a 2nd team being uturned i dont see why they wouldnt just use it for the heck of it due to its towards the end of the race. plus if a team is behind gallory ie kisha and jen getting lost gallory could catch up
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 07:54:15 PM
I hope to have the promo later on!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 20, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
I hope to have the promo later on!! :jumpy:
ditto. but when do they usually come on cbs' website
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 07:58:53 PM
We have no confirmation that anyone was U-Turned...we speculate that Jet and Cord were U-Turned. We don't know about anyone else. :tup:
what i was saying before was that Gallory mite have one of those just sit there for 10 minute tasks. and if they dont see a team or a 2nd team being uturned i dont see why they wouldnt just use it for the heck of it due to its towards the end of the race. plus if a team is behind gallory ie kisha and jen getting lost gallory could catch up
   I hope it is a w-turn because if one of my favorite teams gets u-turned... theres another team that gets u-turned also...
Is it possible for just one team to be u-turned?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 07:59:22 PM
I meant just one team be u-turned in a double u-turn!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 07:59:56 PM
It is a W-Turn. It is possible that only one team could get U-Turned.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
OR there could be a throw-away U-turn on a team in front that wouldn't count....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
It is a W-Turn. It is possible that only one team could get U-Turned.
thanks  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 20, 2011, 08:08:21 PM
OR there could be a throw-away U-turn on a team in front that wouldn't count....
     I remember seeing that multiple times in previous seasons and this season..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 20, 2011, 08:22:06 PM
OR there could be a throw-away U-turn on a team in front that wouldn't count....

Oh Peach you tease!I hope this is speculation as I wouldn't want the cowboys to be the only ones U-Turned!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 20, 2011, 08:27:10 PM
Me neither, kinibug!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Mister RC on April 20, 2011, 09:13:15 PM
Since the roadblock is relatively easy... Gallory have that speed bump @ one of those  :duno:    That wont help Gallory catch up w/ the pack much. Gallory need to not be u-turned in order to not be eliminated... Its a matter of who gets to that U-turn first. I really hope Jet and Cord get to the u-turn first and u-turn somebody... hopefully kent and vyxsin  :yess: :yess: :yess:
We already know Jet and Cord get u turned so they CAN'T  be first at the u-turn :tup: :tup: :tup:
true but say they get there 2nd or 3rd they can still uturn the next team we saw this with jamie and cara use the uturn after being u-turned themselves.

I guess it's possible. The same could be said for the possibility of the team they U-Turn passing them (FT/BE beating Jaime/Cara and several other teams too).  IMO, if Jet/Cord arrive third, their chances of using the second U-Turn aren't good.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 09:13:39 PM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9luggagetags.jpg)


vintage tags for illustration only

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 20, 2011, 09:18:56 PM
Ok, so it looks like Gary/Mallory were tied with the pack until a certain point with the slow taxi. The question it, when is the taxi? All I can tell is that there is a bunch of yellow buses and there is definitely a bus lane. Is it a train station? From the looks of it, it's not Zermatt, because of the buses and buildings. And I do know there are yellow buses in Liechtenstein. If I were to make a guess, it looks a little bit like Vaduz, Liechtenstein.


Gary and Mallory are chasing down a taxi at the train station in FELDKIRCH, AUSTRIA. This is the Austrian jumping-off point to Liechtenstein, and where I based myself because Liechtenstein was so crazily expensive to stay in!

(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/2035614-The_FeldkirchSchaan_bus-Vaduz.jpg)

So they were pretty much caught up by then...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 09:20:27 PM
I don't think we see any teams with them there? But that was pretty near to the start!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 20, 2011, 09:25:57 PM
it is ok to be u-turned.

but it is not okay to put roadblock before detour. it is really hard for u-turned teams to catch up. even they do, they will finish later which will harm the next leg.  therefore it is too harsh and unfair to put roadblock before detour. like someone said in the previous posts, it is bad planning.

maybe this leg will change the history.

or it also could be, the passing through Liechtenstein will just be a route info, the roadblock will be something we didn't see in the promo and it will be after the cheesy fondue and bellboy detour.

or it also could be, no roadblock this leg, like season 16 the french battlefield leg, one detour and then riding bikes.

the real intention for u-turn is simply to eliminate teams (they feel yeild is not effective enough), its not like speedbump which you can finish it and still be number one team.

Since u-turn itself is so harsh already, if it is placed at the second half of the leg................(speechless)

Forget to mention that, the intention for teams to use u-turn is to make sure they are ahead of other teams during the whole leg, that's why detour first, roadblock next, because the teams who use u-turn are not sure how well they will perform in the roadblock.

But if roadblock first, then detour, the teams who use u-turn will surely get personal, to eliminate the biggest rival in the whole race, not just this leg. unless they are the first team to arrive at the u-turn clue box and they see a second team then eliminate them to make sure they get to pit stop first.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 20, 2011, 09:28:31 PM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9luggagetags.jpg)


vintage tags for illustration only




I don't know whether this is a hint chimney styles?lol

Is it possible that the cowboys and/or Zev and Justin weren't U-Turned but just struggled with the bellboy task and so switched detours?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 20, 2011, 09:35:53 PM
Preview caps, sorry they are late!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0102.jpg)2(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg)3





if you look closey at the  2nd or 3rd picture i can see zev/justin in the corner well i think its them
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 10:01:24 PM
Pictures 2 and 3 are at different places I think.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 20, 2011, 10:32:12 PM
Who could U-Turn the Cowboys? Lets Find Out.

Gary and Mallory - They are good friends with them + They are probably Behind. (( Unlikely U-turned Cowboys ))

Globe Trotters - They seem to be alright with the cowboys, but they are trying to win, not sure of placement. (( Neutral - Possible but Unlikely. ))

Zev and Justin - They seem to just care about winning, they could very well do it, but they are struggling in promos. (( Likely U-turned Cowboys. ))

Kent and Vyxin - Impossible because they already U-turned someone (( Jamie and Care ))  (( Did not U-Turn Cowboys. ))

Kisha and Jen - They could have very well U-turned them, they just want to win. They know cowboys are strong. (( Likely U-Turned Cowboys. ))

Jet and Cord - As far as we know they were U-Turned or STRUGGLED BADLY at the cheese task. But we are not sure.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 20, 2011, 10:39:46 PM
actually, when the cowboys were doing the cheese task, i can see cord's facial expression is like' man, this is hot'

I think they did well, finished the majority of them, if you look at the level of cheese in the hotpot.

while zev and justin, the cheese in the hotpot seemed untouched.

but it could be zev and justin are first, so they took their time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: graytex on April 20, 2011, 10:47:50 PM
I don't believe we see Zev/Justin and the Cowboys at the Fondue at the same time.  Who knows who is first there. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 20, 2011, 10:53:34 PM
I don't believe we see Zev/Justin and the Cowboys at the Fondue at the same time.  Who knows who is first there. :duno:

of course they are not there the same time, what i mean is 'one team struggles to consume the fondue' from the press release, doesn't necessarily mean the cowboys.  although they look serious having the fondue, it could be they get u-turned and need to be hurry and the fondue is hot.   while zev/ justin seems to be happy with the fondue, it doesn't mean they couldn't be the team who struggles, the only reason they seem relaxed could be they are at the fondue task first.  Or they are not, then they are in trouble.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Cocoa on April 20, 2011, 11:18:28 PM
Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!

Kent and Vyxsin. ??? :lol:

On another note, wow at the sudden sporadic growth of Cowboy-lovers in RFF. *blank face*  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 11:34:32 PM
Has a terribly familiar ring to it doesn't it??


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!

Kent and Vyxsin. ??? :lol:


Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 20, 2011, 11:35:08 PM
Promo 1 is now up in post 2!! Caps to follow....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 20, 2011, 11:43:48 PM
The Cowboys say, "This really could be our last leg."  That makes me feel better about their chances of surviving this leg.

I didn't see any new pictures of the detour. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 20, 2011, 11:53:53 PM
The Cowboys say, "This really could be our last leg."  That makes me feel better about their chances of surviving this leg.

I didn't see any new pictures of the detour. :(

It's a way for the production to tease the viewers! LOL. It is either the cowboys gets eliminated or again find themselves second to the last... They know that the cowboys really have so many fans that's why these promos will make all the fans watch to see them survive... I do really hope so that they survive....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 20, 2011, 11:55:40 PM
After watching that promo. Personally I am 100% certain the cowboys will be safe. It seems like they are smiling and that they have a good tone of voice.  :hearts:


But we still need to speculate.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 20, 2011, 11:56:16 PM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9luggagetags.jpg)


vintage tags for illustration only



I seriously hope this doesn't reference Kent/Vyxsin being eliminated this leg :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on April 20, 2011, 11:57:39 PM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9luggagetags.jpg)


vintage tags for illustration only



I seriously hope this doesn't reference Kent/Vyxsin being eliminated this leg :(
Me too I Love Kent & Vyxsin :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 21, 2011, 12:04:15 AM
OMG I finally found something helpful-

The confessional at the end of Promo 1 of Cord saying "This really could be out last leg" was shot from the end of last episode.

Notice the scenery(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0525.jpg) is the exact same as the scenery from the clip "Jet, the Cowboy Psychologist" found on http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/ , So they haven't even run the leg yet.

So therefore, I would say they probably aren't safe at all.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: AmazingRace on April 21, 2011, 12:16:10 AM
OMG I finally found something helpful-

The confessional at the end of Promo 1 of Cord saying "This really could be out last leg" was shot from the end of last episode.

Notice the scenery (will edit when caps come up) is the exact same as the scenery from the clip "Jet, the Cowboy Psychologist" found on http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/ , So they haven't even run the leg yet.

So therefore, I would say they probably aren't safe at all.

 :ascared
Good catch Mike!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 21, 2011, 12:21:02 AM
i'm really hoping the cowboys survive.  i personally want either j/k or the goths eliminated.  nothing against either of them, but i dont like teams that whine on the race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 21, 2011, 12:23:58 AM
Thanks, Peach.
Well, I don't get it. The magic line in the promo runs north to south, but FT can be seen passing the Wielenmann garage (http://www.weilenmann.li/) on his right; he is going north on Bendererstrasse through Schaan.  ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 12:28:42 AM
caps!


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Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 12:29:24 AM
Thanks, Peach.
Well, I don't get it. The magic line in the promo runs north to south, but FT can be seen passing the Wielenmann garage (http://www.weilenmann.li/) on his right; he is going north on Bendererstrasse through Schaan.  ???

I think I got lots more road signs for you!! ^^^
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 21, 2011, 12:30:50 AM
Thanks, Peach.
Well, I don't get it. The magic line in the promo runs north to south, but FT can be seen passing the Wielenmann garage (http://www.weilenmann.li/) on his right; he is going north on Bendererstrasse through Schaan.  ???

maybe some teams went the reverse way.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 12:31:38 AM
Thanks, Peach.
Well, I don't get it. The magic line in the promo runs north to south, but FT can be seen passing the Wielenmann garage (http://www.weilenmann.li/) on his right; he is going north on Bendererstrasse through Schaan.  ???

Maybe he did something wrong in the measuring and has to do it again?? The measurements will need to match!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 21, 2011, 12:40:30 AM
I don't know if we have this, but just for reference info, the length from Schaanwald to Balzers is approximately 18km according to google maps.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 21, 2011, 12:41:30 AM
Thanks, Peach.
Well, I don't get it. The magic line in the promo runs north to south, but FT can be seen passing the Wielenmann garage (http://www.weilenmann.li/) on his right; he is going north on Bendererstrasse through Schaan.  ???

Maybe he did something wrong in the measuring and has to do it again?? The measurements will need to match!

that's what i was thinking..maybe he had to go "backwards" and recount his measurement.  and since he's saying something about it being crazy, it kinda makes sense.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 12:54:34 AM
road signs
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 21, 2011, 12:56:39 AM
"And why is everyone ganging up on the cowboys?"

uh oh.. so the teams COULD have ganged up to ONLY u-turn the cowboys. :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 21, 2011, 01:03:32 AM
I can't see the promo because I'm on my phone,but in the caps it looks as though the cowboys are running to the pitstop and they look pretty happy.Now,this could just be because they are glad to have finished but maybe they know they're not last? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 21, 2011, 01:09:08 AM
Hahaha somebody kidnap jet or cord n tell them to spoil us!! Haha :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 21, 2011, 01:09:21 AM
I can't see the promo because I'm on my phone,but in the caps it looks as though the cowboys are running to the pitstop and they look pretty happy.Now,this could just be because they are glad to have finished but maybe they know they're not last? :duno:

that cap you are referring to is actually a clip from a previous leg.  
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 01:36:31 AM
I can't see the promo because I'm on my phone,but in the caps it looks as though the cowboys are running to the pitstop and they look pretty happy.Now,this could just be because they are glad to have finished but maybe they know they're not last? :duno:

that cap you are referring to is actually a clip from a previous leg.  

eddieshi1............

This is NOT from the previous episode..........just a fyi.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 21, 2011, 01:44:53 AM
I can't see the promo because I'm on my phone,but in the caps it looks as though the cowboys are running to the pitstop and they look pretty happy.Now,this could just be because they are glad to have finished but maybe they know they're not last? :duno:

that cap you are referring to is actually a clip from a previous leg.  

eddieshi1............

This is NOT from the previous episode..........just a fyi.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)

oh sorry..i was referring to cap 22.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 01:45:28 AM
I have yet to see any evidence that any team was U-Turned, ie, the W-Turn sign with any pictures on it. It may very well be, as Peach has really hinted at, that teams have problems with the Hotel Luggage detour and switch to the fondue eating detour. Nor have I seen any evidence as to which team, of the two we see, eating the fondue, is actually the first one there. Just a bunch of WILD SPECULATION AND WISHES for whichever team is a particular poster's favorite team.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 21, 2011, 01:51:26 AM
Hey guys! there is a website I found and the website is No links to other sites please   and there's like a category where they can predict the order of elimination and there is this one person, who got the first five teams that got eliminated right...

it makes me worried that his/her prediction might be right.. maybe the cowboys are the next one to go..

that will piss me off so bad...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 21, 2011, 01:54:01 AM
I have yet to see any evidence that any team was U-Turned, ie, the W-Turn sign with any pictures on it. It may very well be, as Peach has really hinted at, that teams have problems with the Hotel Luggage detour and switch to the fondue eating detour. Nor have I seen any evidence as to which team, of the two we see, eating the fondue, is actually the first one there. Just a bunch of WILD SPECULATION AND WISHES for whichever team is a particular poster's favorite team.

good point.  but we do know for a fact that there is a w turn.  but we dont know for sure who got it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 02:01:07 AM
Sunset in Zermatt on Dec 7, is approximately at 4:44 pm/1644.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)

This appears to be mid day, so probably they are retrieving a Route Info clue AFTER the moped RB. From earlier analysis of train schedules, it would appear that it would be very difficult for any teams to arrive in Zermatt in daylight. Also if this was the run to the Pit Stop, I would expect to see Jet/Cord wearing the bellboy uniforms.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 02:05:04 AM
In time, ianinator, you will learn to not pay any attention to Wikipedia for any real evidence (before the fact) about The Amazing Race. ANYONE can edit those pages there, with whatever they want. They mostly get all their ideas from us.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 21, 2011, 02:06:46 AM
The "cowboys running down a path" shot looks like Liechtenstein to me, not Zermatt. I suppose there'd be snow on the ground in the Alps in December?

(Checked Weather Underground. It snowed 1 Dec and 6 Dec.)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 21, 2011, 02:40:01 AM
measuring the length....

would there be any kind of cheating going on? like leg 1, teams tell each other about the answer.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 02:41:55 AM
Odometers don't lie. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 21, 2011, 02:44:08 AM
Allgemeines Treuunternehmen Building, on the east flank of the road through Vaduz. Gary is going North to South, but I wonder if it's a return journey rather than a one-way?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 02:52:35 AM
Do you mean Gary is going South to North? I am confused. Also an arrow on the building you are talking about might help. I see what you are talking about.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 21, 2011, 02:54:57 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)

While snooping around Liechtenstein I stumbled across the name Parkhotel Sonnenhof, but being a terrible navigator I got lost looking for it and ran out of time. And while looking for it, I walked past numerous vineyards. One of which you see to the cowboys' right. I believe they're concentrated around Vaduz, but I'll check to make sure.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 21, 2011, 02:57:49 AM
Odometers don't lie. :tup:

Wow.. so if they actually steered off-course, they're doomed aren't they cos the total distance is affected :S
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 21, 2011, 03:01:28 AM
you guys don't sleep at all?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 21, 2011, 03:16:55 AM
you guys don't sleep at all?



haha too excited and impatient to sleep!! :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 03:26:06 AM
If the mileage obtained is incorrect, I believe they have to start over....so this makes me wonder if FT has problems??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 21, 2011, 03:32:48 AM
If the mileage obtained is incorrect, I believe they have to start over....so this makes me wonder if FT has problems??

Oh dear.. an average cycling speed is around 20km/h. Therefore, if teams actually screwed up, it takes another 54 minutes to measure again. From the Promo FT looks like he is having problems.  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 03:46:22 AM
Well it depends on just what they have to measure. Those dashed lines are confusing. Slowhatch has shown that FT was SW of Eschen......which doesnt appear to be on the line they are supposed to measure, Unless they have to go west from Schaan and then backtrack.

The mopeds the teams are riding do appear to have a pretty sophisticated odometer on them, sticking off to the right. Phil's moped does not have one on it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 21, 2011, 03:52:33 AM
I can't see the promo because I'm on my phone,but in the caps it looks as though the cowboys are running to the pitstop and they look pretty happy.Now,this could just be because they are glad to have finished but maybe they know they're not last? :duno:

that cap you are referring to is actually a clip from a previous leg.  

eddieshi1............

This is NOT from the previous episode..........just a fyi.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)

oh sorry..i was referring to cap 22.

I was also referring to cap 22 :) ok,well seems that's from an old episode.There goes my far-fetched theory  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 03:55:00 AM
Cap 22 is Broken Hill.

Cap 23 is a head shot from the Intros.

Cap 25 is from the last episodes confessionals.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 03:56:13 AM
I think that cap 22 25 is from the end of leg confessionals at the Von Trapp House in Salzburg.

Cap 22 is Jet/Cord running away from the detour in Broken Hill. Cord's shirt is all dirty from carrying all the bits of colored stone.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 21, 2011, 03:56:59 AM
Cap 22 is Broken Hill.

Cap 23 is a head shot from the Intros.

Cap 25 is from the last episodes confessionals.

Thanks for clearing that up :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Cocoa on April 21, 2011, 05:58:01 AM
Why were the Trotters inserted in Cap 24 from the Cowboys? Hmmm. :lol: (And by this, speculation begins. :res: :lol:)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: StephenWasHere on April 21, 2011, 06:55:55 AM
I don't see Zev/Justin U-Turning the Cowboys. I don't know why, I just don't. Based on the promo, the Globetrotters look like they could have U-Turned the Cowboys but who knows. I think that in all likelihood, the Cowboys were U-Turned by either Kent/Vyxsin or the Globetrotters. I also have a feeling that since it's a W-Turn, the other W-Turn'd team may not be as obvious. Zev/Justin did look like they were struggling at the fondue but the reason is unknown. I have a feeling the other W-Turn'd team is either Kent/Vyxsin or even Gary/Mallory because of their Speed Bump (I hope that Gary/Mal aren't U-Turned though)

Thanks, and sorry for the longish post
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 21, 2011, 07:38:20 AM
I don't see Zev/Justin U-Turning the Cowboys. I don't know why, I just don't. Based on the promo, the Globetrotters look like they could have U-Turned the Cowboys but who knows. I think that in all likelihood, the Cowboys were U-Turned by either Kent/Vyxsin or the Globetrotters. I also have a feeling that since it's a W-Turn, the other W-Turn'd team may not be as obvious. Zev/Justin did look like they were struggling at the fondue but the reason is unknown. I have a feeling the other W-Turn'd team is either Kent/Vyxsin or even Gary/Mallory because of their Speed Bump (I hope that Gary/Mal aren't U-Turned though)

Thanks, and sorry for the longish post

The Goths couldn't have U-Turned the cowboys as they have already used up their U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 08:16:50 AM
On another note, wow at the sudden sporadic growth of Cowboy-lovers in RFF. *blank face*  :lol:

They were always there, but they just started posting recently! :lol:

I see a lot of possibilities for small mistakes to mess up a whole task this time. With the roadblock a wrong turn could add an extra kilometer to the odometer and cause them to have to do it all over again. With the luggage carrying losing a tag or receipt may force them to have to track it down before continuing. And as someone mentioned way back, it is quite possible that losing the bread in the fondue makes them have to drink the Kirsch.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: StephenWasHere on April 21, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
I don't see Zev/Justin U-Turning the Cowboys. I don't know why, I just don't. Based on the promo, the Globetrotters look like they could have U-Turned the Cowboys but who knows. I think that in all likelihood, the Cowboys were U-Turned by either Kent/Vyxsin or the Globetrotters. I also have a feeling that since it's a W-Turn, the other W-Turn'd team may not be as obvious. Zev/Justin did look like they were struggling at the fondue but the reason is unknown. I have a feeling the other W-Turn'd team is either Kent/Vyxsin or even Gary/Mallory because of their Speed Bump (I hope that Gary/Mal aren't U-Turned though)

Thanks, and sorry for the longish post

The Goths couldn't have U-Turned the cowboys as they have already used up their U-Turn.

Ah whoops! I forgot about that! Thanks for reminding me XD.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 21, 2011, 09:05:07 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)21
I think #21 is the path leading up to Gutenberg Castle in Balzers - looking for some corroborating evidence.
They grow grapes on the side of the hill.
Looks like a good place for a pit stop.

Mmmm, the fine wines of Liechtenstein  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 09:08:30 AM
There are several things I already find odd about this upcoming episode:
1. We have yet to see the W-Turn sign when we have had two previews.
2. TPTB chose to hide the fact that there is a W-Turn in a press release, therefore hiding it from the public at large.

Moreover, what is the meaning of "Why is everyone ganging up on the Cowboys?", as we heard in the latest preview (which did not come from the CBS site).

As for all of this "wild speculation" :lol:, one can deductively believe that the Cowboys were U-Turned by a team that is definitely not the Goths, based on the two previews we have. I am referring to both the fact that the Cowboys were wearing bellboy outfits while eating the fondue and that the announcer in the second preview is hinting at something of the like. However, the latter may come to nothing.
Moreover, we have no evidence that any other team was U-Turned.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 09:09:25 AM
On another note, wow at the sudden sporadic growth of Cowboy-lovers in RFF. *blank face*  :lol:

They were always there, but they just started posting recently! :lol:

I see a lot of possibilities for small mistakes to mess up a whole task this time. With the roadblock a wrong turn could add an extra kilometer to the odometer and cause them to have to do it all over again. With the luggage carrying losing a tag or receipt may force them to have to track it down before continuing. And as someone mentioned way back, it is quite possible that losing the bread in the fondue makes them have to drink the Kirsch.
this is exactly why i feel that FT and BE allow Gallory to catch up and indeed use the double uturn if they use it. i feel like it would be the cowboys because no one will see it coming
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 09:10:43 AM
WP, I thought the Pitstop was in Zermatt. Also wouldn't any shots of teams running to the PS be in the dark? At the fondue detour it looks dark outside already and sunset in Zermatt is before the train even arrives.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: chill_sd on April 21, 2011, 09:15:02 AM

The Goths couldn't have U-Turned the cowboys as they have already used up their U-Turn.

I suppose it's a slim possibility, but if this happened to be a Blind Double U-Turn,  the Goths could U-Turn someone.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 09:15:25 AM
There is no evidence that any team was U-Turned......only SPECULATION!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: doedoe on April 21, 2011, 09:16:22 AM
In picture 19...who is the person on the moped? Helmet does not match any of the ID-ed racers.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 09:16:46 AM
There is no evidence that any team was U-Turned......only SPECULATION!!
true true, but why not use it at this point in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: chill_sd on April 21, 2011, 09:20:04 AM
In picture 19...who is the person on the moped? Helmet does not match any of the ID-ed racers.

I believe that's Jen.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: doedoe on April 21, 2011, 09:22:46 AM
In picture 19...who is the person on the moped? Helmet does not match any of the ID-ed racers.

I believe that's Jen.

ok...in other pictures her headband/boggen looked orange instead of red.  Maybe lighting.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 09:24:29 AM
In picture 19...who is the person on the moped? Helmet does not match any of the ID-ed racers.

I believe that's Jen.

It could be Jen or Zev\Justin because the hat under the helmet could either be red or orange.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 09:39:13 AM
I think it is Jen too...........the rider just looks to "skinny" to be Zev or Justin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 21, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
caps!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0219.jpg)15(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0364.jpg)21

It looks like the moped task ends at Balzers and the Cowboys are running next to a vineyard.  Schloss Gutenberg is in Balzers and has a vineyard.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 09:48:14 AM
There could very well be a Route Marker or Active Route Marker at the vineyard.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 09:51:04 AM
Or the moped task ends at the end of the dashed line, SE of Balzers at the border with Switzerland and the screencap just marks Vyxin's progress so far.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 09:55:27 AM
Or the moped task ends at the end of the dashed line, SE of Balzers at the border with Switzerland and the screencap just marks Vyxin's progress so far.

It's highly possible based on other caps that show a dotted line.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 10:04:50 AM
There is no evidence that any team was U-Turned......only SPECULATION!!
true true, but why not use it at this point in the race.

I am not saying that the W-Turn was not used. I am just saying that we have no evidence for it yet, if it was. All we have is speculation, based on the Cowboys seen doing the fondue detour, dressed in the bellhop uniforms. It could very well mean that they had to switch detours because of some other reason, not just being U-Turned. Peach has given us some clues.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 10:15:53 AM
As far as who we have seen in the moped RB, excluding Zev/Justin. All the other teams will be RB ballanced, except Gary/Mallory. They will be Gary (5) and Mallory (3) after this episode. At this point, Zev (3) and Justin (4). I am wondering if Zev or Justin do the RB.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 10:22:23 AM
As far as who we have seen in the moped RB, excluding Zev/Justin. All the other teams will be RB ballanced, except Gary/Mallory. They will be Gary (5) and Mallory (3) after this episode. At this point, Zev (3) and Justin (4). I am wondering if Zev or Justin do the RB.
i forgot in which caption but i saw zev on the moped.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 21, 2011, 10:33:00 AM
I think #21 is the path leading up to Gutenberg Castle in Balzers - looking for some corroborating evidence.
They grow grapes on the side of the hill.
Looks like a good place for a pit stop.

Mmmm, the fine wines of Liechtenstein  :lol3:

Do the pictures on this page help?  http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Liechtenstein/Vaduz/blog-422769.html (http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Liechtenstein/Vaduz/blog-422769.html)  Especially the picture labeled "Way up to Balzers Castle (http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/4110123)."  It could possibly be the same location from a different angle?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 10:36:56 AM
I'm 90% sure you found another match, raina! :hearts:

The cowboys are holding the map I think so this may be after the roadblock. So the moped path ends down there and they probably head on to Sargans which is not far at all.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 21, 2011, 10:57:53 AM
I think #21 is the path leading up to Gutenberg Castle in Balzers - looking for some corroborating evidence.
They grow grapes on the side of the hill.
Looks like a good place for a pit stop.

Mmmm, the fine wines of Liechtenstein  :lol3:

Do the pictures on this page help?  http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Liechtenstein/Vaduz/blog-422769.html (http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Liechtenstein/Vaduz/blog-422769.html)  Especially the picture labeled "Way up to Balzers Castle (http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/4110123)."  It could possibly be the same location from a different angle?
Good job!  :jam:
And to alleviate any confusion - Balzers Castle, Gutenburg Castle and Schloss Gutenberg are all the same place.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 11:12:52 AM
I think #21 is the path leading up to Gutenberg Castle in Balzers - looking for some corroborating evidence.
They grow grapes on the side of the hill.
Looks like a good place for a pit stop.

Mmmm, the fine wines of Liechtenstein  :lol3:

Do the pictures on this page help?  http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Liechtenstein/Vaduz/blog-422769.html (http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Liechtenstein/Vaduz/blog-422769.html)  Especially the picture labeled "Way up to Balzers Castle (http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/4110123)."  It could possibly be the same location from a different angle?

Raina!! Another awesome find!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 11:15:51 AM
Caps 1 and 2 from the Promo 1 video are also from the Balzers Castle. I would suspect that this location is a route info location after the moped RB, that is if they measure all the way to the Swiss border SE of Balzers.

This screencap from the preview is the Swiss border crossing that is SE of Balzers. You can see Balzers in the background of the screencap. You can almost see the Castle, but it is cut off on the left.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0341.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 21, 2011, 11:30:53 AM
Or the moped task ends at the end of the dashed line, SE of Balzers at the border with Switzerland and the screencap just marks Vyxin's progress so far.
Caps 1 and 2 from the Promo 1 video are also from the Balzers Castle. I would suspect that this location is a route info location after the moped RB, that is if they measure all the way to the Swiss border SE of Balzers.

This screencap from the preview is the Swiss border crossing that is SE of Balzers. You can see Balzers in the left rear of the screencap. You can almost see the Castle, but it is cut off on the left.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0341.jpg)

Watching Promo 1, the audio "dings" when the route info (for measuring the length of Liechtenstein) reaches Balzers.  Looking at your screencap, the sign at the border would be a good end point.

Hmmm.  Just another thing that will make watching this episode more interesting.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 11:58:15 AM
 :<3


(http://i52.[banned image hosting site].com/13zsdw7.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 12:00:24 PM
Another clue? Hmm...do they have to put gas in the mopeds at some point?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 12:05:36 PM
gater27........

No credit to me, Neobie already identified this border crossing on about page 3/4. It is possible that the moped riders pick up their teammates and a taxi at the border......then be directed to the Balzer Castle to get the route info clue to start heading to Zermatt.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 21, 2011, 12:29:49 PM
Caps 12-16 seem to match the southern border, pointing south (GE viewpoint on top). The cutoff to the right would be Andstein road.  Who is that, btw?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 12:32:29 PM
Who is that, btw?

It might be Jen. Or Jet, he's wearing a brown coat. It's not Gary, Vyxsin, or Flight Time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
Why were the Trotters inserted in Cap 24 from the Cowboys? Hmmm. :lol: (And by this, speculation begins. :res: :lol:)

That's a very good question.

And the comments from the Trotters in the Promo 1 confessional....that is from a previous episode I think?? When did BE have the bandaid on his head??

Pretty sure that is not a current confessional in any case....but something edited in from before.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: graytex on April 21, 2011, 12:50:16 PM
He still had the bandaid this week in Vienna.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 12:56:13 PM
He still had the bandaid this week in Vienna.

Okay then, guess we need to look for some curtains to match today. :lol:

Maybe it is the current one then? ??? Just looked vaguely familiar.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
Caps 12-16 seem to match the southern border, pointing south (GE viewpoint on top). The cutoff to the right would be Andstein road.  Who is that, btw?

I think that is Jen.......with the long hair sticking out the back of the helmet.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: boston_jen on April 21, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
I found the curtains in the Villa Trapp.  They have a very distinctive animal print on them.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
You got it boston jen!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0465.jpg)


Cowboys are in the same place, same curtains, same window panes. So any comments about we could be in last, etc. is fake drama.


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0525.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 21, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
Noticed that there is a heliport very close to the end of the moped ride in Balzers on Andstein road.
Speculation - maybe the racer not doing the roadblock is transported by helicopter to Balzers.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 01:30:58 PM
Revisiting the Swiss Railroad Timetables (they changed the schedule back on Dec 12, 2110), connecting in Visp to Zermatt seems to be the choke point.

There are multiple train connections from Sargans to Zurich to Visp. From Visp to Zermatt, trains run about once an hour. So teams could possible gain an hour advantage catching the right train. If they happen to catch the 1510 train, they would actually gain a 1.5 hour advantage over the next train.

Any team that could catch the EC8 train in Sargans at 1139 would enjoy that 1.5 hour head start and arrive in Zermatt @ 1614. Any teams on trains from Sargans after that departure will arrive in Zermat at 1754.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 01:45:37 PM
I found the curtains in the Villa Trapp.  They have a very distinctive animal print on them.



Great job Boston Jen!! Thanks for doing that!!

So at least we are not looking at confessionals from this leg. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 01:50:59 PM
Noticed that there is a heliport very close to the end of the moped ride in Balzers on Andstein road.
Speculation - maybe the racer not doing the roadblock is transported by helicopter to Balzers.

Non speculation: :lol: The racer not doing the RB is transported by production van back to their teammate.

Helicopters or balloons :lol3: would have been SO much more fun!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 21, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
Another clue? Hmm...do they have to put gas in the mopeds at some point?
Or maybe it's the Speed Bump.   :lol:

I just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where Gary was and then I read the thread and see that we already know his exact location.   :groan:  Oh well, I don't mind looking at Gary for 15 minute straight and now I know exactly where he is from all angles, so... yay! Heh. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 02:24:10 PM
Loose ends: (or do we have these already? ??? )

Have we confirmed the location of this train station? We should be able to match the nice blue taxi or the station...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg)

Is it possible to confirm the train? Are we on the way Salzburg to Feldkirch? Or Sargens to Zermatt?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0342-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 02:25:00 PM
Noticed that there is a heliport very close to the end of the moped ride in Balzers on Andstein road.
Speculation - maybe the racer not doing the roadblock is transported by helicopter to Balzers.

Non speculation: :lol: The racer not doing the RB is transported by production van back to their teammate.

Helicopters or balloons :lol3: would have been SO much more fun!!
could this be peach giving us a hint? i have a feeling that the balloons/helicopter ride mite be the speed bump. its near yet time consuming! hahaah do i win?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 21, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
Revisiting the Swiss Railroad Timetables (they changed the schedule back on Dec 12, 2110), connecting in Visp to Zermatt seems to be the choke point.

There are multiple train connections from Sargans to Zurich to Visp. From Visp to Zermatt, trains run about once an hour. So teams could possible gain an hour advantage catching the right train. If they happen to catch the 1510 train, they would actually gain a 1.5 hour advantage over the next train.

Any team that could catch the EC8 train in Sargans at 1139 would enjoy that 1.5 hour head start and arrive in Zermatt @ 1614. Any teams on trains from Sargans after that departure will arrive in Zermat at 1754.

The sighting of Kisha/Jen on the train with no other teams seen - how would this relate to the train schedule?  They would have arrived in Zurich at 1:48 PM?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
I don't believe the cowboys are debarking in Feldkirch, peach as the station there does not have an indoor platform.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wesleyvandrongelen/5054304572/in/photostream/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 21, 2011, 02:37:54 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0342-Copy.jpg)

The cowboys are getting off at Zermatt. This train is from Matterhorn Gotthard Bahn that only runs a very specific route.
Also, why are they in first class? Cheaters? :lol:

(http://www.matterhorngotthardbahn.ch/DE/reiseinformationen/karte_strecke/PublishingImages/Strecke/ch-karte.gif)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 21, 2011, 02:38:44 PM
Loose ends: (or do we have these already? ??? )

Have we confirmed the location of this train station? We should be able to match the nice blue taxi or the station...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg)

Is it possible to confirm the train? Are we on the way Salzburg to Feldkirch? Or Sargens to Zermatt?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0342-Copy.jpg)
There are no taxis in Zermatt, so the first cap can't be there.  

The second cap has to be at the Zermatt station as the train says Matterhorn Gotthard Bahn.  Matches their logo as well.

(http://www.matterhorngotthardbahn.ch/publishingimages/logo.gif)

Website:  http://www.matterhorngotthardbahn.ch/de/Pages/default.aspx
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
They are arriving in Zermatt! Look at the ceiling and the red and white cars.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/reinholdbehringer/5082067848/in/photostream/

Unfortunately since they do have an indoor platform we cannot guess the time. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 02:41:45 PM

The sighting of Kisha/Jen on the train with no other teams seen - how would this relate to the train schedule?  They would have arrived in Zurich at 1:48 PM?

I think Neobie has that answered over here:

Hi Apskip, in my above analysis I only described the journey made by LaKisha/Jennifer, who were seen on a train that was going from Chur to Zurich. As you said, there are direct trains from Buchs to Zurich, so the sisters, if they had started their journey at Buchs, would not be on the train they were on. They must have started riding the train at Sargans.

IR 1776 from Sargans to Zurich, 1239-1348 (LaKisha/Jennifer seen on this train)
IC 826 from Zurich to Visp, 1402-1602
R 249 from Visp to Zermatt, 1625-1734


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24706.msg603588.html#msg603588

And do remember that just because we saw no other teams on that train, it does NOT mean that there were no other teams on the train. NOT SEEN does not mean NOT THERE. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 02:44:56 PM
Noticed that there is a heliport very close to the end of the moped ride in Balzers on Andstein road.
Speculation - maybe the racer not doing the roadblock is transported by helicopter to Balzers.

Non speculation: :lol: The racer not doing the RB is transported by production van back to their teammate.

Helicopters or balloons :lol3: would have been SO much more fun!!
could this be peach giving us a hint? i have a feeling that the balloons/helicopter ride mite be the speed bump. its near yet time consuming! hahaah do i win?

Nope Afraid not. Helicopters and balloons were just fun comments. Production van is good.

And you already have the speedbump clue.  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 02:49:22 PM
Loose ends: (or do we have these already? ??? )

Have we confirmed the location of this train station? We should be able to match the nice blue taxi or the station...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg)



They wouldn't allow a vehicle like that in Zermatt. Since I get the impression that teams are going in the station I will guess Sargans. If they are getting in the taxis then it is Feldkirch.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
Very nice Prophet, raina and Neobie!! Thanks!

Now...where do they need to LEAVE a train station by taxi besides Feldkirch? ??? Or is this a shot of two teams ARRIVING  at a station?

And raina, there ARE taxis in Zermatt, but they are little electro ones. We may see teams using those to get to the Pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 21, 2011, 02:53:45 PM
The teams are getting off the train and into the taxis at Feldkirch. Compare the windows on the corner.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg)

(http://www.oebb-immobilien.at/de/Bahnhofsoffensive/Neue_Bahnhoefe/Bahnhof_Feldkirch/1_3_1_Feldkirch1.jpg)

If Herbert/Nathaniel (leaving Salzburg 2nd) and Jet/Cord (5th) get off the same train at Feldkirch, and Gary/Mallory (6th) are with at least one other team ("Now all the teams have passed us."), it suggests that the bunching includes at least five out of six teams. Zev/Justin were barely ahead of Herbert/Nathaniel, so I'm guessing it's a total bunch at the beginning of the next leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 02:53:52 PM
CBS released that promo on their website it is a little different from the Survivor one:



Differences:

Kynt and Vyxsin riding a tram and wanting to Uturn the cowboys

Gary and Jet right on top of each other on mopeds

Gary leaving a gas station

The video description says:

Quote
Everyone is ganging up on the cowboys on the next episode of The Amazing Race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Reilly Queens on April 21, 2011, 02:58:20 PM
Kynt and Vyxsin riding a tram and wanting to Uturn the cowboys

They already used their COP photo when they U-Turned the Red Heads.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 21, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
What penalty would it be if they U-Turned them again?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Reilly Queens on April 21, 2011, 03:01:59 PM
What penalty would it be if they U-Turned them again?

They wouldn't be allowed too. You can't U-Turn if you don't have a Courtesy Of Photo.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 03:08:19 PM
Sargans Train Station. Taxis in Liechtenstein are blue

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rPpjFXDiVpM/StcJ6FANk7I/AAAAAAAAMm0/K5SC-VPcdz8/IMG_2937.JPG)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: boston_jen on April 21, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
nevermind...  I somehow missed neobie's post on the matterhorn gottard bahn
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 21, 2011, 03:17:41 PM
CBS released that promo on their website it is a little different from the Survivor one:


Kynt and Vyxsin riding a tram and wanting to Uturn the cowboys 


It could be a bus from Balzers to Sargans?  Looks similar to one of the Liechtenstein buses. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 21, 2011, 03:21:19 PM
Noticed that there is a heliport very close to the end of the moped ride in Balzers on Andstein road.
Speculation - maybe the racer not doing the roadblock is transported by helicopter to Balzers.

Non speculation: :lol: The racer not doing the RB is transported by production van back to their teammate.

Helicopters or balloons :lol3: would have been SO much more fun!!
could this be peach giving us a hint? i have a feeling that the balloons/helicopter ride mite be the speed bump. its near yet time consuming! hahaah do i win?

Nope Afraid not. Helicopters and balloons were just fun comments. Production van is good.

And you already have the speedbump clue.  :neener:

Sounds like the speedbump then may be Gary  having to fill up the moped with gas?  Perhaps his moped is the only one that doesn't have enough gas to go all the way across the country?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 21, 2011, 03:31:04 PM
As someone else suggested, what if it is a BLIND W-Turn. I do not see the point in the goths talking about the U-turn if they can't use it. And they are fans of the amazing race, so they obviously know they cant use it.

Can someone upload the video to youtube please :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 03:34:59 PM
Gary needs Gas
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 21, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
^^^

(http://i52.[banned image hosting site].com/13zsdw7.jpg)

G is for gas.  G is for Gary.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 03:38:27 PM
This thread on RFF is brought to you by the letter

G

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 21, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
What penalty would it be if they U-Turned them again?

They wouldn't be allowed too. You can't U-Turn if you don't have a Courtesy Of Photo.

The rules may be different for this season of the Race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 03:53:04 PM

Can someone upload the video to youtube please :)

Sure Mike. ANYTHING for you!   :luvx


promo 1a is now up in post 2!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 21, 2011, 04:18:37 PM

Can someone upload the video to youtube please :)

Sure Mike. ANYTHING for you!   :luvx


promo 1a is now up in post 2!

 :hearts:  :<3
Thanks :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 04:24:19 PM
Caps for promo1A: (only the new ones)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0085.jpg)1(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0145.jpg)2(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0460.jpg)4(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0486.jpg)5(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0501.jpg)6(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0528.jpg)7(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0534.jpg)8(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0545.jpg)9(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0550.jpg)10(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0722.jpg)11(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0783.jpg)12

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: graytex on April 21, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
Where are we getting that the Goths want to U-Turn the Cowboys?  Kent says, "I want to put some Cowboys on ice today."  I just take that he wants them out of the race or make sure they are last.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shiryu01 on April 21, 2011, 04:33:23 PM
After watching the promo, I feel a fraction more optimistic for the cowboys. I know that promos in the past have occasionally showed the team that was then eliminated, but Cord saying "this could be our last leg today" would almost spoil the entire episode if they do end up eliminated.
Or maybe it's just wishful thinking...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: graytex on April 21, 2011, 04:35:50 PM
This is the Cowboy taxi picture a few frames later.  I agree Zev & Justin are behind them.  But who is in the bright blue jacket and hat?

(http://i56.[banned image hosting site].com/333c16x.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 21, 2011, 04:36:46 PM
That's FT.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 04:40:44 PM
As mentioned upthread, Kent and Vyxen appear to be on the bus from Balzers to Sargans. It only takes about 20 minutes on the SBB website.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 21, 2011, 05:11:48 PM
Loose ends: (or do we have these already? ??? )

Have we confirmed the location of this train station? We should be able to match the nice blue taxi or the station...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0104.jpg)

Is it possible to confirm the train? Are we on the way Salzburg to Feldkirch? Or Sargens to Zermatt?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0342-Copy.jpg)
In picture two on the train... any concern the cowboys took a wrong plane.. are in last?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 05:23:01 PM
There are no plane flights involved in this episode, so the cowboys are in luck.  :lol:

I'd love to know who else made that 13:48 train but we don't. I do know that the cowboys were at the roadblock about the same time as the trotters and Gallory.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: selkie on April 21, 2011, 05:42:52 PM
Way back when there was a Phil quote describing the Goths as the devious/sneaky team this year. And while they've had their sneaky moments (previous U-turn, Kent ditching Gary in India) they've been nowhere close to what we've seen in other seasons. I wonder if what happens is that the Goths try to talk the other teams into only U-turning the Cowboys, using the logic that they're the strongest team left in the Race, and that everyone else's chances are better if they can get rid of the Cowboys this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 21, 2011, 05:48:42 PM
There are no plane flights involved in this episode, so the cowboys are in luck.  :lol:

I'd love to know who else made that 13:48 train but we don't. I do know that the cowboys were at the roadblock about the same time as the trotters and Gallory.
 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:   They have been behind the last 2 legs bc of their plane mishaps  :groan: :groan:
which made me worried.   Were Jet and Cord on the 1:48 train? Was that the earliest or was there an earlier train?  :duno: :duno:
 If you can answer that.. thanks  :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 21, 2011, 05:52:31 PM
Way back when there was a Phil quote describing the Goths as the devious/sneaky team this year. And while they've had their sneaky moments (previous U-turn, Kent ditching Gary in India) they've been nowhere close to what we've seen in other seasons. I wonder if what happens is that the Goths try to talk the other teams into only U-turning the Cowboys, using the logic that they're the strongest team left in the Race, and that everyone else's chances are better if they can get rid of the Cowboys this leg.
Well the other teams might/might not u-turn the cowboys.. but kynt and vyxsin have already used their u-turn.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 21, 2011, 05:55:55 PM
Way back when there was a Phil quote describing the Goths as the devious/sneaky team this year. And while they've had their sneaky moments (previous U-turn, Kent ditching Gary in India) they've been nowhere close to what we've seen in other seasons. I wonder if what happens is that the Goths try to talk the other teams into only U-turning the Cowboys, using the logic that they're the strongest team left in the Race, and that everyone else's chances are better if they can get rid of the Cowboys this leg.
Well the other teams might/might not u-turn the cowboys.. but kynt and vyxsin have already used their u-turn.
But I see what you mean by K and V convincing the other teams to uturn ONLY jet and cord to get them out  :colors
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 05:57:46 PM
Way back when there was a Phil quote describing the Goths as the devious/sneaky team this year. And while they've had their sneaky moments (previous U-turn, Kent ditching Gary in India) they've been nowhere close to what we've seen in other seasons. I wonder if what happens is that the Goths try to talk the other teams into only U-turning the Cowboys, using the logic that they're the strongest team left in the Race, and that everyone else's chances are better if they can get rid of the Cowboys this leg.

Unfortunately, this is not completely out of the realm of possibility. :/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 21, 2011, 06:01:41 PM
Sorry this is long... I kinda have a lot to say. Im a new member of RFF, but I've been reading posts here for over a year.

Just some speculation...

1. The comment Jet/Cord made about "this could be our last leg"... since it was from the confessional of the leg in Austria, it could've been something said about the previous leg, something like, "we were really thinking like, 'this could be out last leg'". the promos always try to trick you, so you never know what they mean.

2. Jet/Cord are almost definitely W-Turned by somebody because they would've definitely went for the luggage (the more physical detour) and the only problem they could've had would be finding the hotel to deliver it to, but seeing as Zermatt shouldn't be that hard to navigate, I think they would've figured it out.

3. "Ganging up on the cowboys" - FT/BE made that comment but since they mentioned it in the promos, I don't think they will be the ones to U-turn Jet/Cord. I doubt that it will be Kent/Vyxsin because a Blind W-Turn is highly unlikely.

4. Flight Time seems to be having trouble but I don't think he messed up in the calculations because he says its crazy but he doesnt seem pissed or anything, he's actually kind of saying it in a humored way.

5. I don't think Kent/Vyxsin U-Turned the cowboys. It's possible Kent was threatening to ruin the cowboys because they were the ones W-Turned by the cowboys, and not the other way around, because I wouldn't find it so hard for the cowboys to get ahead of the goths. However, seeing from Kent's mood, it doesn't seem to be that way because we all know by now that Kent can be quite whiny.

6. Of course CBS would make it look like the cowboys are in trouble. They know how many fans there are and it is a great way for them to get viewers.

7. Yes, Gary is getting gas for the moped, and although that seems pretty easy, it can mess up his calculations if it's not exactly on the route they are following. Also, it may be far away or hard to find. You can see the gas station in the corner of cap 6 of promo 1A. Not sure if this is the speed bump or not, but it seems likely, because a full tank of gas should be able to take them the full 18 km, so the only way someone would need gas would be that they didn't get a full tank to start with.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 21, 2011, 06:06:01 PM
Way back when there was a Phil quote describing the Goths as the devious/sneaky team this year. And while they've had their sneaky moments (previous U-turn, Kent ditching Gary in India) they've been nowhere close to what we've seen in other seasons. I wonder if what happens is that the Goths try to talk the other teams into only U-turning the Cowboys, using the logic that they're the strongest team left in the Race, and that everyone else's chances are better if they can get rid of the Cowboys this leg.

Still, I doubt many teams would listen to the Goths either because they dislike them, or they don't trust them. Gary/Mallory obviously wouldn't, and I think the 'ganging up on the cowboys' may just be many different teams with different agendas, all trying to take the cowboys out, seeing them as their strongest threat. You can kind of see the no one really likes the Goths, seeing their U-Turn, Kent ditching Gary, and how they lied about their penalty from Kunming.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 21, 2011, 07:28:52 PM
Way back when there was a Phil quote describing the Goths as the devious/sneaky team this year. And while they've had their sneaky moments (previous U-turn, Kent ditching Gary in India) they've been nowhere close to what we've seen in other seasons. I wonder if what happens is that the Goths try to talk the other teams into only U-turning the Cowboys, using the logic that they're the strongest team left in the Race, and that everyone else's chances are better if they can get rid of the Cowboys this leg.

This is a definite possibility. However I think Phil often exaggerates these types of things in interviews, so perhaps he really is only referring to the previous U-Turn and all. For example, before the Season 17 finale, Phil said in interviews things like, "The order of teams will be changing around," "You'll think you've got it all figured out and then it'll change." Not literally that, but something to the same effect, and it led to a lot of excitement and speculation. Of course, what really happened was that Nat and Kat were in 1st place going into the first taxi and stayed in 1st place the whole time. Brook and Claire passed Jill and Thomas at one point, but it wasn't as significant as everyone had hoped.

So I do think it's possible that the Goths will be sneaky about getting other teams to U-Turn the cowboys. But at the same time it's also very possible that Phil's only referring to the previous U-Turn and all that with his statement.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 21, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
This is the Cowboy taxi picture a few frames later.  I agree Zev & Justin are behind them.  But who is in the bright blue jacket and hat?

(http://i56.[banned image hosting site].com/333c16x.jpg)

Yeah, its Flight Time. And I think the other guys are the cameraman/sound guy, not Zev and Justin? Haha, not too sure though.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 21, 2011, 07:52:14 PM
This is the Cowboy taxi picture a few frames later.  I agree Zev & Justin are behind them.  But who is in the bright blue jacket and hat?

(http://i56.[banned image hosting site].com/333c16x.jpg)

Yeah, its Flight Time. And I think the other guys are the cameraman/sound guy, not Zev and Justin? Haha, not too sure though.  :lol:
Ok how do we know that that is Jet/Cord's taxi  :js: :js: :js: :js:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 21, 2011, 07:56:20 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0460.jpg)4(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0486.jpg)5(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0501.jpg)6
I think this is the gas station: 

(http://www.vaterland.li/var/upload/newsticker/image/6506_640.jpg)

and

(http://www.exclusiv.li/Portals/0/Content/ZeitschriftArchiv/Ausgabe%2082%20Architektur%20im%20Wandel%20der%20Zeit/Fo_Agip_2003-10-31-47759.jpg)

Source One (http://www.vaterland.li/index.cfm?source=lv&id=8066) and Source Two (http://www.exclusiv.li/MagazinexclusivArchiv20022009/2003/exclusivNr82Oktober2003/CarfreshinVaduz.aspx)

.com/i36x3l.jpg]So on Landstresse (28) in Vaduz (red and blue star). (http://i52.[banned image hosting site)  Same road that Gary was in the earlier promo (blue star).   

And I think the wall photos are also from the same road near the gas station.  The gas station photo, you can see the wall in the corner that looks similar to the cap with Jet in it.  And the wall continues as can be seen in this photo. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasandersen/2456922850/sizes/l/in/photostream/)  (The gas station is slightly visible in the left corner.)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
This is the Cowboy taxi picture a few frames later.  I agree Zev & Justin are behind them.  But who is in the bright blue jacket and hat?

(http://i56.[banned image hosting site].com/333c16x.jpg)

Yeah, its Flight Time. And I think the other guys are the cameraman/sound guy, not Zev and Justin? Haha, not too sure though.  :lol:
Ok how do we know that that is Jet/Cord's taxi  :js: :js: :js: :js:

We know, because we have all read this whole thread.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 07:58:41 PM
I nominate raina for TAR Detective! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: LoveRocked on April 21, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
I nominate raina for TAR Detective! :hearts:

I agree with that.. I am very surprise raina know everything find evidence with promo! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 21, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
Ok some ppl said that there was a 13:48 train that Jet/Cord, Kisha/Jen, FT/BE were seen on..
Was there another there another train earlier or later? Or was it a bunch train?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 21, 2011, 08:19:10 PM
Aaaw  :-[  I just have a lot of time right now as I'm on sick leave.  I saw that photo a little whle ago, but I just wasn't sure it was it.  I'm still not a 100% sure, but looks right I think.

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Do we know if Zev or Justin do the roadblock?  I'm guessing Justin and in that case how many will he have done?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kinibug on April 21, 2011, 08:20:45 PM
Aaaw  :-[  I just have a lot of time right now as I'm on sick leave.  I saw that photo, but I just wasn't sure it was it.  I'm still not a 100% sure, but looks right I think.


Raina,seriously,you're amazing at this!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 08:28:11 PM
I nominate raina for TAR Detective! :hearts:

I agree with that.. I am very surprise raina know everything find evidence with promo! :hearts:
i third that motion
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2011, 08:33:28 PM
I speculate that Justin does the Roadblock, which would bring him to a count of five. :tup: I would be surprised to see Zev do two roadblocks in a row because he did not seem to enjoy them that much.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 08:40:41 PM
I speculate that Justin does the Roadblock, which would bring him to a count of five. :tup:
i disagree for 2 reasons 1. i saw zev on the moped(assuming moped is rb) and 2. if it was justin he would only be able to do 1 last road block. either at the finale in which case zev has to do legs 10 and 11.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 21, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
I speculate that Justin does the Roadblock, which would bring him to a count of five. :tup:
i disagree for 2 reasons 1. i saw zev on the moped(assuming moped is rb) and 2. if it was justin he would only be able to do 1 last road block. either at the finale in which case zev has to do legs 10 and 11.

You have said this now twice today.......please find the link to the screencap you say you have seen.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 09:17:45 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0347.jpg)18(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/18-9-PREVIEW-caps0389.jpg)19

caps 18 and19
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 21, 2011, 09:25:28 PM
Thats Jet  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 09:26:23 PM
Thats Jet  :lol:
my bad =( i thought that but im like they could be trying to throw us!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 21, 2011, 09:27:44 PM
Thats Jet  :lol:
my bad =( i thought that but im like they could be trying to throw us!
:) its alright haha, I know how sometimes you think you're onto something but you aren't.
Its still likely he could be doing it though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 21, 2011, 09:42:14 PM
i think zev is actually gonna do the final road block if they get that far. idk y just a hunch that he mite remember more(assuming final RB is a memory related task)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 21, 2011, 10:08:44 PM
I was watching the 2nd promo (promo 1A) and noticed something.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo1A/18-9-promo1A-caps0783.jpg)12

Kent/Vyxin was in the train right?

Anyways just a thought. I think all these "ganging up against the cowboys" are just discussions teams made when they saw "DOUBLE-U-TURN AHEAD" after they have departed from the pitstop. To me it seems like the producers are just trying to keep us on the edge of the seat by using the cowboys to put fear in us cowboys fan. To me it's extremely hard to assume that anyone has been u-turned.. even though most likely the cowboys are u-turned haha.

I can't wait! 3 more days! :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 21, 2011, 10:27:03 PM
So the The image of K/V on the tram is taken after the rode block? She is still wearing the goggles.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 21, 2011, 10:33:06 PM
So the The image of K/V on the tram is taken after the rode block? She is still wearing the goggles.

Good spotting!
They both look relatively happy too, maybe they finished fast.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 21, 2011, 10:43:46 PM
So the The image of K/V on the tram is taken after the rode block? She is still wearing the goggles.

Good spotting!
They both look relatively happy too, maybe they finished fast.

omg yeah, that is true. I didnt notice that >.< Im sure they're one of the first few to finish the roadblock.

But still, they might screw up in the detour haha! :) And end up getting u-turned instead  :snicker:
(haha. gosh i feel like a crazy cowboy fan who just dont want them to get eliminated at all, finding every single excuse to try to prove that they're safe)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: redskevin88 on April 22, 2011, 12:56:28 AM
I speculate that Justin does the Roadblock, which would bring him to a count of five. :tup:
i disagree for 2 reasons 1. i saw zev on the moped(assuming moped is rb) and 2. if it was justin he would only be able to do 1 last road block. either at the finale in which case zev has to do legs 10 and 11.

I disagree... we have seen in previous races since Season 16, teams can do 7 roadblocks...

Even if Justin does this roadblock, he can still do one more roadblock before the finale (with Zev doing one roadblock in either Leg 10 or 11) without hitting the roadblock count of 6...

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 22, 2011, 01:57:50 AM
So the The image of K/V on the tram is taken after the rode block? She is still wearing the goggles.

Good spotting!
They both look relatively happy too, maybe they finished fast.

omg yeah, that is true. I didnt notice that >.< Im sure they're one of the first few to finish the roadblock.

But still, they might screw up in the detour haha! :) And end up getting u-turned instead  :snicker:
(haha. gosh i feel like a crazy cowboy fan who just dont want them to get eliminated at all, finding every single excuse to try to prove that they're safe)

I'm pulling for the cowboys as well, but i hate referring to myself as a "cowboy" fan bc i hate those dallas cowboys...haha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 22, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
Two more days. Btw good friday to everybody :) im extremly impatient for sunday to come.....  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 22, 2011, 08:15:14 AM
It has already been mentioned on this thread that the goths are riding the tram to Sargans to catch a train to Zermatt. So it is definitely after the roadblock.  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 22, 2011, 08:46:53 AM
Is the Moped dealer near the gas station?  Since we suspect the speedbump has something to do with gas, maybe they have to fill a certain amount of Moped tanks, including their own, before they are allowed to continue...?  :duno:

I predict that the prize for this leg will be Mopeds or Scooters.  ;)

My guts says Cowboys, Zev/Justin and Gallory are fine.  Kent/Vxysin, Kisha/Jen might be in some trouble.  As for the Trotters, why doesn't anyone think they would U-Turn the Cowboys?  I think they would.  They see the Cowboys and Zev/Justin as their biggest competition.  If they can slow them down or eliminate them, I think they'd do it in a heartbeat! JMO
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 22, 2011, 10:37:45 AM

omg yeah, that is true. I didnt notice that >.< Im sure they're one of the first few to finish the roadblock.

But still, they might screw up in the detour haha! :) And end up getting u-turned instead  :snicker:
(haha. gosh i feel like a crazy cowboy fan who just dont want them to get eliminated at all, finding every single excuse to try to prove that they're safe)
[/quote] this would make sense because peach was like luggage tags is that familiar to anyone, however i dont see why they would be u-turned becasue you would want to keep the weaker teams in race wouldnt you?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 22, 2011, 10:48:47 AM
Is the Moped dealer near the gas station?  Since we suspect the speedbump has something to do with gas, maybe they have to fill a certain amount of Moped tanks, including their own, before they are allowed to continue...?  :duno:

I predict that the prize for this leg will be Mopeds or Scooters.  ;)

My guts says Cowboys, Zev/Justin and Gallory are fine.  Kent/Vxysin, Kisha/Jen might be in some trouble.  As for the Trotters, why doesn't anyone think they would U-Turn the Cowboys?  I think they would.  They see the Cowboys and Zev/Justin as their biggest competition.  If they can slow them down or eliminate them, I think they'd do it in a heartbeat! JMO

Actually a lot of people have speculated that the Globetrotters U-Turn the cowboys, a few pages back. I think it's likely as well. My gut also says that Zev/Justin and Gallory are fine. They've gotten a pretty big edit despite the fact that they don't have Jet/Cord, Flight Time/Big Easy, and Kent/Vyxsin-size fan bases. I also feel like with all of the promo emphasis on the cowboys, they should be okay too, but it's a little iffy as this is a bad leg to be U-Turned on (since the Detour comes after the Roadblock; not much catch-up time here).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 22, 2011, 01:05:26 PM
Is the Moped dealer near the gas station?  Since we suspect the speedbump has something to do with gas, maybe they have to fill a certain amount of Moped tanks, including their own, before they are allowed to continue...?  :duno:

Looking at Amazing Line map that they had in the preview, this should be the route map with the Schaanwald being the start point, Balzers being the end point and the gas station in the middle.  It's exactly 9.5 km to the gas station from the start and exactly 9.5 km from the gas station to Balzers.  

(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/34yczmf.jpg)
.com/zl7zog.jpg]Route With Gas Station (B) Location (Slightly bigger) (http://i56.[banned image hosting site)

I couldn't find any bike shops near the gas station (there might be some there obviously, just couldn't find them.  There is one near Balzers (http://www.veloshop.li/home.aspx) and one in Triesenberg (http://www.bikeshop.li/index.html).  Both are after the gas station.

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It's possible that they've to stop at the gas station (80% sure it is the right one) and make sure they're on the right path?  So they only have to do half the route over instead of the entire route?  


Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 22, 2011, 01:23:13 PM

 :ascared Nice Work!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 22, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Reading this again closely...  Could this mean that the SAME team that stuggles with the food detour ALSO struggles at the luggage task?   In other words, could it be that the cowboys are the one's that lose the luggage tags, then switch detours, struggle mightily with the food task, only to then discover that they are U-turned???  If so, seems that would almost certainly spell their doom.    What would happen in that case?  Would they be forced to go back and search for the luggage tags until they find them, or would they have to start the entire task all over again??? 

Hoping this is NOT true...

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 22, 2011, 02:48:32 PM
I read it to mean that others struggle with the luggage while only ONE team has trouble with the fondue. That doesn't mean that that is what it means though.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 22, 2011, 02:51:41 PM
I read it to mean that others struggle with the luggage while only ONE team has trouble with the fondue. That doesn't mean that that is what it means though.  :lol:

I sure hope so..  I guess it's the word "ALSO" in upper case that leads me to think it might be the same team...  

But then again, I suppose that if one team struggles at both, it could also be Zev and Justin, since they appear to be struggling at the food task.

Or maybe I am just overthinking again!   :lol:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 22, 2011, 02:54:16 PM
Well, the press release did not tell us that someone struggled on the luggage so she is telling us that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Just to be clear:

But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.

Is not a press release but is a peach clue.  :angel

It could also be read as one team may struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.






Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 22, 2011, 03:12:17 PM
Quote
Just to be clear:

But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.

Is not a press release but is a peach clue.

It could also be read as one team may struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.

Cowboys MAY ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY task?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 22, 2011, 03:19:32 PM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Just to be clear:

But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.

Is not a press release but is a peach clue.  :angel

It could also be read as one team may struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.









Thanks for clarifying...  I feel a little bit better now!   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 03:22:59 PM
I think I said ONE TEAM. No team was specified. 


Maybe I need to go out of the clue business.  :wall:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 22, 2011, 03:24:51 PM
I meant that the cowboys are the ONE team?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: doedoe on April 22, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
I think I said ONE TEAM. No team was specified. 


Maybe I need to go out of the clue business.  :wall:

No, please!  You are so good that it!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 22, 2011, 03:26:52 PM
I think I said ONE TEAM. No team was specified. 


Maybe I need to go out of the clue business.  :wall:
i took your clue to mean kynt and vyxsin because they also forgot their recits on delerving the tea in season 12. so thats what i think now
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 22, 2011, 03:32:13 PM
I read your clues, Peach! Don't stop giving them!

We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9luggagetags.jpg)


vintage tags for illustration only


Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 22, 2011, 03:33:06 PM
I think I said ONE TEAM. No team was specified. 


Maybe I need to go out of the clue business.  :wall:

No need for that!  I think I understand what you mean...  Just that ONE team struggles at the luggage task.  Not related to who struggles at the food task at all.  Could be the same team or could not be...  But I am comforted by the fact that it is not DEFINITELY the same team that struggles at both!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Tarfan37 on April 22, 2011, 03:34:58 PM
this is why its kynt and vxysin 'nough said
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 22, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
Nooooo, Peach, some of us live on your clues. :)

I added another image of the gas station in the previous post, because once you find something, it just pours. There's only one station from that company in Liechtenstein, so it kind of has to be that... 
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The team that struggles could be anyone at this point.  It could be Kynt and Vyxsin.   It could also have something to do with the Episode Title. 

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Route Video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cirN0Vcmvqo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cirN0Vcmvqo)

It's a video of the entire route the teams will take, but in the opposite direction.  It starts in Balzers and ends in Schaanwald. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 04:33:42 PM
I meant that the cowboys are the ONE team?

I know what you meant. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 05:00:44 PM
Raina I love your map and am going to put it the summary thread. And I love your being able to find the gas station in the promo. :hearts:

And yes, the speedbump should involve fueling the mopeds.

BUT we do have to remember that Gallory will have to do the speedbump BEFORE they start on the RB, so if that gas/petrol station is halfway along the RB route, I don't think we can say that that is where the speedbump takes place, right??  :(

And that video is a snoozefest, but look at all the roundabouts. Someone could easily get lost, or just go a couple of blocks out of their way, and have a wrong odometer reading. Navigation is a good thing in this task.

And that vid goes S>North, took me the whole thing to figure that out!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 22, 2011, 05:06:10 PM
And that vid goes S>North, took me the whole thing to figure that out!
I finally slapped myself awake to see a bit of it and saw that it was South to North..  I was all happy to see the gas station pass by.  It really is a snooze although I do feel like I virtually did the roadblock now.  

I think you're right about this not being the speedbump spot.  I speculated earlier that it could be just a check in spot to make sure they're doing it right?  Like you wouldn't want to send a team back the entire way, so they could do it in two segments.  Or it could be just a passing shot, who knows?

Glad the map was a little useful!  Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 05:20:43 PM
I wonder if it isn't a passing shot too...but GREAT job either way!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: LoveRocked on April 22, 2011, 05:34:12 PM
The Amazing Race Episode 10:
Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen (Switzerland)

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 05:48:50 PM
Thanks!!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 22, 2011, 06:18:38 PM
Hey Peach!

have you posted the promo yet on youtube? if you haven't so, will you please upload it for everyone? because apparently, CBS won't let e see the promo because I'm not from America.. -.-
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 22, 2011, 06:19:20 PM
Hey Peach!

have you posted the promo yet on youtube? if you haven't so, will you please upload it for everyone? because apparently, CBS won't let e see the promo because I'm not from America.. -.-

Thanks! =)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: tombc52 on April 22, 2011, 06:23:01 PM
Ok some ppl said that there was a 13:48 train that Jet/Cord, Kisha/Jen, FT/BE were seen on..
Was there another there another train earlier or later? Or was it a bunch train?

I was the one that saw Kisha and Jen on that particular train. I didnt see any other teams. The train was only lightly occupied. If there was another team on I would have seen them.

From what we know now I'm pretty sure that they rode the RJ362 from Salzburg to Feldkirch (since the screencap shows them arriving in Feldkirch in daylight).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 22, 2011, 06:24:39 PM
 :didimiss:  Why is everybody certain Gary is getting gas instead of just passing by the Agip station on Landstrasse? I've run through the video a few times and I still don't see it.  ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 06:34:34 PM
We were just talking about that...the gas is a speedbump thing, so can't be in the middle of the RB. So Gary's shot has to be just a drive-by shot.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 06:35:23 PM
Hey Peach!

have you posted the promo yet on youtube? if you haven't so, will you please upload it for everyone? because apparently, CBS won't let e see the promo because I'm not from America.. -.-

Is there a new one?? ??? All the others are in the second post of this thread, as always.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: theschnauzers on April 22, 2011, 06:55:37 PM
I'm going to set aside the wishful thinking and point this point.

I don't see anything in the tasks thought to be for the detour options, or the roadblock that would give the Cowboys any particular problem, or more of a problem than for the other teams. They've shown again and again that they're particularly adept at tasks.
They may well be U-Turned, but I suspect that move on the part of any of the other teams except for Kent-Vyxzen who can't do it, will backfire; and if Kent-Vxyzen lobby other teams to do it, it may still backfire in their faces.
Which team would struggle in the fondue task -- a team without a strong stomach for the taste of Swiss cheese (which is often what is used in fondue).  Which team would have trouble with the luggage task, a team that has trouble with tasks requiring strength. At the moment, I don't expect any of the teams would stuggle with the moped task; but we may not know all there is to know about that task yet, so we'll see.
The editors made a point of giving us a flashback to the Cowboys worse-to-first-plus-a-spredback leg in their original season; I suspect this week may be something similar. Who goes home? I don't know, but I do think Kent-Vxyzen deserve to at this point.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 22, 2011, 07:01:58 PM
When Gary is leaving the gas station in promo 1A, he says "It's like the Tour de France." Well... in the Tour de France, if im not mistaken, there are checkpoints and you must stop at each one and check in to finish the race? Gary could be comparing to that... I think the gas station is DEFINITELY a checkpoint.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 22, 2011, 07:05:22 PM
I'm going to set aside the wishful thinking and point this point.

I don't see anything in the tasks thought to be for the detour options, or the roadblock that would give the Cowboys any particular problem, or more of a problem than for the other teams. They've shown again and again that they're particularly adept at tasks.
They may well be U-Turned, but I suspect that move on the part of any of the other teams except for Kent-Vyxzen who can't do it, will backfire; and if Kent-Vxyzen lobby other teams to do it, it may still backfire in their faces.
Which team would struggle in the fondue task -- a team without a strong stomach for the taste of Swiss cheese (which is often what is used in fondue).  Which team would have trouble with the luggage task, a team that has trouble with tasks requiring strength. At the moment, I don't expect any of the teams would stuggle with the moped task; but we may not know all there is to know about that task yet, so we'll see.
The editors made a point of giving us a flashback to the Cowboys worse-to-first-plus-a-spredback leg in their original season; I suspect this week may be something similar. Who goes home? I don't know, but I do think Kent-Vxyzen deserve to at this point.

I agree that they should go home. They fight too much and by now they're just annoying. :meow:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
When Gary is leaving the gas station in promo 1A, he says "It's like the Tour de France." Well... in the Tour de France, if im not mistaken, there are checkpoints and you must stop at each one and check in to finish the race? Gary could be comparing to that... I think the gas station is DEFINITELY a checkpoint.

He was referring to "streaming" behind another racer , not to checkpoints, I believe.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 22, 2011, 07:38:55 PM
I believe the term is "drafting." It means, in Tour de France terms, to get behind another rider and let the rider in front take the wind. It takes less effort for the following rider to keep the same speed. In Gary's case, it might mean that he uses less gas.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: IceMelts on April 22, 2011, 07:43:09 PM
Hi, I've been a lurker here for a while, and I just wanted to point out that there's a new episode preview on the CBS site:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=cca52xfQZMdJjhT6oT9PqFm68vWdOgYg&vs=homepage&play=true

It seems like everyone messes up at the roadblock. haha
and Justin does the road block, too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 22, 2011, 07:44:20 PM
:didimiss:  Why is everybody certain Gary is getting gas instead of just passing by the Agip station on Landstrasse? I've run through the video a few times and I still don't see it.  ???
I think you're right about it not being the pitstop.  In the promo, they don't seem to be slowing down while going by the station/stone wall area.  
---

Something I've been wondering about is this cap:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0178-Copy.jpg)

Why the second red and white location circle?  Might that be the speed bump location?  In searching for bikeshops, there are four listed for bike rental in Liechtenstein.  The two I mentioned earlier and another one in Triesen.  All three are down south after Vaduz.  However, the last one is in Mauren which is west of Schaanwald close to the starting location.

This is the one in Mauren:  http://fahrradshop.li/%C3%9Cberuns/Lageplan/tabid/77/Default.aspx (http://fahrradshop.li/%C3%9Cberuns/Lageplan/tabid/77/Default.aspx)

(http://i52.[banned image hosting site].com/2ekrlsx.jpg)

A is the location of the Mauren Bike Rental Shop (Martin's Fahrradshop AG) and B is the Agrola Gas Station (the northernmost gas station in Liechtenstein).  Could work?   It would give a reason for that second location on the map.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 22, 2011, 07:49:04 PM
Here you go!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 22, 2011, 07:49:14 PM
Hi, I've been a lurker here for a while, and I just wanted to point out that there's a new episode preview on the CBS site:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=cca52xfQZMdJjhT6oT9PqFm68vWdOgYg&vs=homepage&play=true

It seems like everyone messes up at the roadblock. haha
and Justin does the road block, too.
Welcome!! And thank you.  I think I recognized half those locations.  :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 07:52:43 PM
Thanks IceMelts!! :bigwelcome

I'm on it!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 22, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
Well with Justin doing the RB.........that makes 6 for him and max is 7. So Zev will have to do 2 out of the next 3.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: selkie on April 22, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
I believe the term is "drafting." It means, in Tour de France terms, to get behind another rider and let the rider in front take the wind. It takes less effort for the following rider to keep the same speed. In Gary's case, it might mean that he uses less gas.

Wasn't Gary a triathlete? If so, he's probably got a lot of experience with cycling drafting if he does training rides with a bike club and might actually be able to apple what he's learned to the mopeds.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 08:22:31 PM
Promo 3 now up in post #2!!

caps to follow after I take care of a hungry doggie. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 08:23:13 PM
Thanks DrRox!! Drafting it is!! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 22, 2011, 08:29:46 PM
Let's see if my arithmetic is correct:
   1.64  swiss francs per liter (cheapest gas)
 X3.78 liters per gallon
 X1.01 dollars per swiss franc (07 Dec exchange rate)
 =6.26 USD per gallon equivalent
Is that right? I'm not going to stop griping about the $4.20 I just paid  :'(, but it puts things into perspective.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 22, 2011, 08:38:55 PM
From the promo, it seems like almost all of the teams had problems

1) Jen (?) - Dropped her map
2) Vyxin - Lost
3) Gary - Unsure of his readings
4) Justin (?) - Lost
5) Jet - Made the wrong turn at the last town -

The only teams that are unseen is FT/BE. It's either they are first or last. If they are first to finish the roadblock it makes sense if the cowboys are u-turned.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 22, 2011, 09:19:55 PM
Gary's probably not that wrong in his measurements.  He said 10.5km and we obviously don't know the exact location of the start point and there do seem to be certain markers they've to hit, but he doesn't seem too wrong.  

The photo of Jet above is a little bit south of the Agip gas station and right near the earlier linked photo. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasandersen/2456922850/sizes/l/in/photostream/).  (Overhead shot that has the COOP gas station to the left. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbr42/294475007/sizes/l/in/photostream/))

Are gas prices that high now?  Being on sick leave I've no idea what prices are right now!  They were $3.60 last time I got gas.  I wonder what the gas mileage is for those things.. and how big the tank is?

I wish we had gotten a little bit of Zermatt.  Maybe tomorrow.  Goodnight, folks! 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 22, 2011, 09:23:54 PM
I think I said ONE TEAM. No team was specified. 


Maybe I need to go out of the clue business.  :wall:

Is this a clue that only one team gets U-turned too?  :flirt:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 22, 2011, 09:32:36 PM
Current standings in the sneak preview)! (Assuming clips are in general chronological order)

Ahead: Jennifer & Justin
Middle: Vyxsin
Behind: Jet & Gary

No idea about Herbert/Nathaniel. Most likely ahead, if the Speed Bump has already been completed!

Map coming soon.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: boston_jen on April 22, 2011, 09:39:54 PM
Current standings in the sneak preview)! (Assuming clips are in general chronological order)

Ahead: Jennifer & Justin
Middle: Vyxsin
Behind: Jet & Gary

No idea about Herbert/Nathaniel. Most likely ahead, if the Speed Bump has already been completed!

Map coming soon.

That jibes with the order they finished last week, except Vyxsin (but Vyxsin + map = automatic drop in the standings)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 09:45:22 PM
caps!


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Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 09:46:25 PM
Current standings in the sneak preview)! (Assuming clips are in general chronological order)

Ahead: Jennifer & Justin
Middle: Vyxsin
Behind: Jet & Gary

No idea about Herbert/Nathaniel. Most likely ahead, if the Speed Bump has already been completed!

Map coming soon.

Ahead unless they have to redo the whole thing. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Reilly Queens on April 22, 2011, 09:48:07 PM
Vxysin with maps, Uh Oh! Haven't they learned their lesson in Japan?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 22, 2011, 09:51:12 PM
Map of Liechtenstein.

From north to south:
Jet and Gary at Vaduz. (0:25)
Jennifer just north of Triesen. (0:05)
Vyxsin just north of Balzers. (0:18)
Jennifer and Justin at Balzers. (0:53)

Vyxsin is on the right path, but this is where the main road veers off to Switzerland and a smaller one goes on straight to Balzers.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 22, 2011, 09:52:56 PM
caps!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/18-9-promo3-caps0053.jpg)2(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/18-9-promo3-caps0086.jpg)3

"Hoval" seems to be a heating and ventilation company in Liechtenstein.

http://www.hoval.com/default.htm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 10:02:41 PM
Vxysin with maps, Uh Oh! Haven't they learned their lesson in Japan?

SHe has been navigating for them very well indeed this season. :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 10:03:27 PM
We see you Mr Cameraman!! :neener:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/18-9-promo3-caps1533.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/18-9-promo3-caps1621.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: boston_jen on April 22, 2011, 10:11:43 PM
Balzers Castle is up on the hill beyond Jen and Justin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 10:13:15 PM
So we were right about them looking for the end of the RB there.

Here is a nice video showing aerials of the castle.

http://stargatehosting.com/videos/favorite-videos/gutenberg-castle-balzers-liechtenstein/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2011, 10:17:34 PM
SIGH.

In the "if we had only known category", here are some great webcams. You can search back to Dec 7.

And the glacier tours will be great for next week!! :yess:

Just like being there!!

http://www.zermatt.ch/en/page.cfm/service/webcams
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 22, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
From the promo, it seems like almost all of the teams had problems

1) Jen (?) - Dropped her map
2) Vyxin - Lost
3) Gary - Unsure of his readings
4) Justin (?) - Lost
5) Jet - Made the wrong turn at the last town -

The only teams that are unseen is FT/BE. It's either they are first or last. If they are first to finish the roadblock it makes sense if the cowboys are u-turned.

i think a few pages back, we speculated that FT was going "backwards". so maybe he made a mistake and is behind everyone?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 22, 2011, 11:34:21 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%203/18-9-promo3-caps0514.jpg)

Two black arrows. Two red arrows. Speculate! Do the black arrows fit Raina's circles? (It doesn't seem like it.)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0178-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 22, 2011, 11:35:42 PM
Red Starting Point and Black Finishing Point. Thats a Start  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 22, 2011, 11:45:37 PM
That would mean that Jennifer and Justin are off course, turning right at Reitstrasse for Balzers Castle instead of heading straight to the border? But Jennifer with a map points back North to where they need to go. Strange?

Also, why TWO arrows each?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: north09 on April 22, 2011, 11:58:34 PM
Heres a thought: maybe they have to measure the distance both N-S and E-W.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 12:02:25 AM
Phil says in the promo measure the entire length of Liechtensteinn
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 23, 2011, 12:04:04 AM
yea i think they only measure just 1 direction.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: mike4lyf on April 23, 2011, 01:06:36 AM
SIGH.

In the "if we had only known category", here are some great webcams. You can search back to Dec 7.

And the glacier tours will be great for next week!! :yess:

Just like being there!!

http://www.zermatt.ch/en/page.cfm/service/webcams

Do you have any suggestions on which webcam?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 01:21:04 AM
I've looked at all of them, these are lots of fun! Too bad we couldn't have watched live!! **remembers kayaks**

But the Interactive videos of Zermatt are the best...really like walking around the town!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 23, 2011, 04:21:01 AM
Black arrows = start measuring = Feldkirk border crossing
Red arrows = stop measuring = Belzars border crossing
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 23, 2011, 04:28:56 AM
That's perfectly legit, but where does Balzers Castle come in then?
Also, Jennifer points away from the "red arrows" and towards Balzers Castle when directing Justin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 23, 2011, 04:38:02 AM
I think maybe they have to "report in" to Balzers Castle after measuring. I think it may be posible they pick up the mopeds at Schaanwald, then go back to the border crossing and start measuring...........then end measuring at the Balzers border crossing. Then go to Balzers Castle to turn in milage and moped and get route info to Zermatt.

In that screencap of Jennifer at the Balzers border crossing......it didnt look like there was anyone there to meet her or to turn in the moped too. That might take place at the castle.

That location of Jennifer and Justin on Reitstrasse, to me, looks like they are trying to find their way up to the castle AFTER finishing the measuring.

Jennifer is pretty good with maps. In Season 14, when they were in Munich, Jennifer was in the back seat with maps trying to tell Kisha where to go. Kisha wouldnt listen to her and they ended up driving on one of the ring roads and wasted a lot of time. If Kisha had paid attention to Jennifer, they would have cut across the city on another autobahn on a clear shortcut.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 23, 2011, 08:08:01 AM
Gary looks pretty happy in the new promo.  Probably tickled pink that the speedbump is done and he is seeing other racers doing the roadblock! Gives him hope and the extra push he needs to forge ahead.  If he does have experience with biking it also means he has experience in reading the maps.  I wouldn't be surprised if he did do this on the first try.
:geekon:  <Love that smiley! LOL

One might assume that the Cowboys struggled with the luggage but there are several teams they did not show doing the detour.  I am going to say that Zev & Justin struggle with the fondue and Jet/Cord were U-Turned and another team struggled with the luggage... Kent/Vxysin I hope!  :snicker:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 11:01:01 AM
Gary ... If he does have experience with biking it also means he has experience in reading the maps.  I wouldn't be surprised if he did do this on the first try.


He is a PILOT as well.  Maps and fuel should be a cinch for him.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 11:03:06 AM
I think maybe they have to "report in" to Balzers Castle after measuring..

Me too. :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: new mexican mom on April 23, 2011, 11:22:13 AM
Longtime lurker-following you guys is more fun and interesting than watching the show.  The RB to me seems to be just an old-fashioned road rally but on mopeds.  Call it measuring Liechenstein or what but it has the mark of a STD Road Rally, that is speed, time and distance.   Where you follow a set course with check points, but have to maintain a certain speed to make the distance in the time allow or you would be penalized.  There is one cap where Gary is handing off or getting a card from someone or thing.   Think of a poker run event.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
more clues, please. <--- I do really love your clues Peach... I always try to solve it, but had no guts to really post what I think about it... I'm a cowboy fan that's why I'm getting more nervous everyday... I hope the cowboys will be safe this leg...  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, new mexican mom!

Longtime lurker-following you guys is more fun and interesting than watching the show. 

So true a lot of times! :lol3:


Gary ... If he does have experience with biking it also means he has experience in reading the maps.  I wouldn't be surprised if he did do this on the first try.


He is a PILOT as well.  Maps and fuel should be a cinch for him.

Everything is a cinch for Gary! :hero:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 23, 2011, 12:25:02 PM
Here's a clue...

Who's the most famous (well know) living Liechtensteiner? :secret :future
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 12:26:09 PM
more clues, please. <--- I do really love your clues Peach... I always try to solve it, but had no guts to really post what I think about it... I'm a cowboy fan that's why I'm getting more nervous everyday... I hope the cowboys will be safe this leg...  :'(

Hi new Mexican Mom! :welcome:

And this one's for you bystander...so you BETTER comment!! Even if it just to say has peach lost her mind??!!  :lol:


NEOBIE had it all along!! (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25164.msg605528.html#msg605528)


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18ep9fountain.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9fountain.jpg)



           
  The Sound of Music - Lonely Goatherd - Watch more Videos at Vodpod.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 12:26:47 PM
It is a TWO-Fer!! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Squall16 on April 23, 2011, 01:02:58 PM
The prince? or yodeling?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 01:12:25 PM
Okay guys...we need to identify this moped??

Engine on the front, side mirror, can be pedalled, runs on a fuel mix......

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/Promo%201/18-9-promo1-caps0076-Copy.jpg)

lots of pics in the thread!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 01:13:10 PM
The prince? or yodeling?

Good guess! But no...and no.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Laimis on April 23, 2011, 01:16:48 PM
The prince? or yodeling?

Good guess! But no...and no.

goats?  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2011, 01:19:54 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/th_TAR18ep9fountain.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9fountain.jpg)

This fountain was dedicated to Ulrich Inderbinen, a famous Swiss mountain climber who climbed the Matterhorn many times (this information is from Neobie and Slowhatch, not me).
Neobie said he thought this might be a Pit Stop. Is that what you mean, Peach?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 23, 2011, 01:22:31 PM
I think maybe they have to "report in" to Balzers Castle after measuring. I think it may be posible they pick up the mopeds at Schaanwald, then go back to the border crossing and start measuring...........then end measuring at the Balzers border crossing. Then go to Balzers Castle to turn in milage and moped and get route info to Zermatt.

In that screencap of Jennifer at the Balzers border crossing......it didnt look like there was anyone there to meet her or to turn in the moped too. That might take place at the castle.

That location of Jennifer and Justin on Reitstrasse, to me, looks like they are trying to find their way up to the castle AFTER finishing the measuring.
This seems to be the most likely thing.  The route I laid out was based on the promo map thing, but the map that Vyxsen is holding goes border to border. (That makes sense if they're measuring the length.)  Their route is a little different from the one in that video which goes from the bridge to Sargans (as can be seen in Neobie's map) to border crossing near Schaanwald (right start point).   And the small red/white circle is probably where they go pick up their mopeds as was speculated.  Google says it's 10.3 km from border to gas station, so Gary would be quite close.  Maybe they forgot to measure the zillion roundabouts.  :lol: Either way seems way closer than Jet's 17km and hopefully that means good things for Gary and Mal Mal.  

---

peach if the castle is where they go after the measurement, would both team members be going up there as we Jet and Cord doing in the earlier cap?  Now that I think about it, that's similar to first roadblock in that they finished the puzzle and then had to go and give the answer as a team and I'm sure there are a lot of other similar examples, but just seemed a little odd.

---
And now I've the Lonely Goatherd stuck in my head.  I think it means only one team gets U-Turned.  :neener:  Just kidding.  I've not thought about it much.  
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2011, 01:24:23 PM
And now I've the Lonely Goatherd stuck in my head.  I think it means only one team gets U-Turned.  :neener:  Just kidding.  I've not thought about it much. 

It's possible, but I hope it's not true.

Does it have something to do with goats, Peach?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 01:38:11 PM
Not the Pitstop. And the link in my post takes you to Neobie's original fabulous post!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2011, 01:38:59 PM
Not the Pitstop. And the link in my post takes you to Neobie's original fabulous post!!

The W-Turn location?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 23, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
raina.........

I would expect the non RBing teammate to be waiting at the castle.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 01:55:27 PM
raina.........

I would expect the non RBing teammate to be waiting at the castle.

YEP!! :jumpy:


Non speculation: :lol: The racer not doing the RB is transported by production van back to their teammate.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 23, 2011, 02:46:08 PM
Maybe they have the non-RB teammate has to ride a goat to the castle. :rodeo

Hahaha  :lolmao:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 23, 2011, 02:57:35 PM
On the CBS homepage, i found a picture of Gary and Mallory. It looks like a speedbump to me, and it looks like some kind of a gas pump. Anybody recognize this location?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2011, 03:01:39 PM
Nice find! It reminds me of those manual pumps from season 13 that Dandrew couldn't figure out. This one may not be manual though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: paldog123456 on April 23, 2011, 03:11:05 PM
I am pretty sure Mallory is holding the Speed Bump clue in her hand in that picture.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 23, 2011, 03:11:05 PM
Nice find! It reminds me of those manual pumps from season 13 that Dandrew couldn't figure out. This one may not be manual though.

Whether it be manual or not, I think Gary will figure it out, considering he was once a pilot... he should know about this stuff.

BTW, do you think it's the Weilenmann Garage behind them in the background?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 03:34:47 PM
On the CBS homepage, i found a picture of Gary and Mallory. It looks like a speedbump to me, and it looks like some kind of a gas pump. Anybody recognize this location?

Very nice crystiluv!! That should be our speedbump!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 23, 2011, 03:45:44 PM
I think the Mercedes dealership matches up with the odd off-set red circle on the CBS Liechtenstein map.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 05:00:13 PM
I think this logo matches what we see behind them?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/kaiseraglogo.gif)

In which case this may be where they are, even up on the hillside in the picture??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9Kaisarag.jpg)


Vorarlbergerstrasse 220, Schaanwald,  9486, Liechtenstein


You GE guys will have to say if this is a match?



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Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 23, 2011, 05:01:07 PM
I think the Mercedes dealership matches up with the odd off-set red circle on the CBS Liechtenstein map.

yeah thats what i was thinking...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 23, 2011, 05:10:40 PM
I thought Kaiser as well, Peach.  But then thought the building looked all wrong from top.  It's right near the border crossing/start line, though, which makes a lot more sense than a place in Schaan.  Also it does look like some construction crane looking things in that image of Gary/Mallory.

Also, I think the mopeds are a model of Velosolex.  They're a pretty old model, but classics in the industry... so that's interesting.   
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 05:17:08 PM
Thanks raina!!

Velosolex is a match!  vroooom!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 23, 2011, 05:57:44 PM
I noticed that the color the helmet of the rider, matches the color of the moped too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 06:00:39 PM
more clues, please. <--- I do really love your clues Peach... I always try to solve it, but had no guts to really post what I think about it... I'm a cowboy fan that's why I'm getting more nervous everyday... I hope the cowboys will be safe this leg...  :'(

And this one's for you bystander...so you BETTER comment!! Even if it just to say has peach lost her mind??!!  :lol:

OH MY PEACH............... You had really lost your mind!
I have been viewing the video three times already... AND many things are going through my mind right now...

Does the video had something to do with the girl and goatherd??? <--- just one of the things going on my mind! hehe XD
_____________________________________________
I've been thinking about the promo where Gary went with Jet.... Is it possible that both of them helped each other to get the correct answer... It is seen in the video that Gary wants to go with Jet...
Jen w/ Justin ----> makes easier navigation
Gary w/ Jet ----> makes easier calculation

Vyxin ----> alone; as compared to JenJustin & GaryJet
FT ----> not seen on the video... but was alone also in the previous promos
ALONE ----> bad navigation and you only have yourself for the calculation, no one to confirm it with unlike the pairing of two teams

If Gary gets it right, then probably Jet will just follow Gary's calculation since he was sure he had a wrong turn... therefore most probably Gary and Jet finished this task at the same time... as it is true also for Justin and Jen...
_______________________________________________
The previous promos had Cord and the Globetrotters at the same place before the moped task(???)
It made me think they almost started the moped task the same time.... If Jet had the wrong turn, there's a possibility that FT had a wrong turn too or had it right... while Jet was making up for the wrong turn... Gary was able to catch up....
_______________________________________________
I don't know where I will put the placing of FT and Vyxsin....
The placement in the first task...
Zev & Justin / Kisha & Jen ---> Either would not U-turn each other as they paired up in navigating to find the location
----> Either of these two teams U-turned the cowboys (thinking that the cowboys were really U-turned; Zev and Justin most probably did it)
[Vyxin or FT probably places here unless they got lost or need to redo the task]
Gary & Mallory / Jet & Cord ---> Won't probably U-turn each other as they went together
----> If ever Jet & Cord arrived on the U-turn Mat before Gary & Mallory, I think they won't U-turn them, or vice-versa because They are Good american people... ( both teams I really think are good people... hehe)
[Vyxin or FT probably places here if they got lost or need to redo to calculate again]
________________________________________________
If Jet & Cord were U-turned... They might have finished the luggage task fast... and was hungry enough after that to eat all the cheese...
The team that gets eliminated could have really messed-up in the moped task....
________________________________________________
I do really hope so that it will not be the cowboys who will get eliminated...  :js:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TrueNorth on April 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DavidJunior on April 23, 2011, 06:13:07 PM
Lonely Goatherd= route info before leaving Salzburg?

The fact that Sound of Music was used has got me thinking it's a Von Trapp family-esque thing

Which obviously would be in Salzburg

Maybe something similar to the tea tasting in Kunming before heading to Kolkata?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 06:14:26 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.
Is the episodes on your country 1 week delayed as compared to the US???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 06:24:51 PM
I thought Kaiser as well, Peach.  But then thought the building looked all wrong from top.  It's right near the border crossing/start line, though, which makes a lot more sense than a place in Schaan.  Also it does look like some construction crane looking things in that image of Gary/Mallory.

Also, I think the mopeds are a model of Velosolex.  They're a pretty old model, but classics in the industry... so that's interesting.   

Yes to kaiser, yes to crane looking things... Kaiser had those colors for their crane looking things also... XD
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Zvarri on April 23, 2011, 06:29:29 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

If I recall correctly, its a two hour finale with 2 legs. I remember reading something about a two hour finale, but I may be mistaken.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 06:33:03 PM
I can't help, but notice that as the episodes progresses... the more post we are having in each thread... I guess next episode will exceed the number of pages we have right now... More and more people are coming to RFF when the finale gets nearer... Everybody wants to make sure their bet will be on top three!

I hope these teams will not be eliminated in this leg...
Jet & Cord
Gary & Mallory
Kisha & Jen
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 06:36:33 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

If I recall correctly, its a two hour finale with 2 legs. I remember reading something about a two hour finale, but I may be mistaken.
Yep, it's a two-hour finale I think... two legs in 1 episode (???)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 06:43:11 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

The finale is two hours, two legs (11&12) so change your DVR settings NOW!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: selkie on April 23, 2011, 06:56:35 PM
Here's a clue...

Who's the most famous (well know) living Liechtensteiner?

The only Liechtensteiners I can put names to are the skiing Wenzel family that won a bunch of Olympic medals in the 70s and 80s.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 23, 2011, 07:20:53 PM
I think this logo matches what we see behind them?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/kaiseraglogo.gif)

In which case this may be where they are, even up on the hillside in the picture??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9Kaisarag.jpg)


Vorarlbergerstrasse 220, Schaanwald,  9486, Liechtenstein


You GE guys will have to say if this is a match?



View Larger Map


:hearts: :<3 This must be it. The logo definitely matches and the location appears to be right because it's before Schaanwald where we think the mopeds are being rented or whatever. :hearts: :<3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2011, 07:23:06 PM
Here's a clue...

Who's the most famous (well know) living Liechtensteiner?

The only Liechtensteiners I can put names to are the skiing Wenzel family that won a bunch of Olympic medals in the 70s and 80s.

How about Marco Büchel??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 23, 2011, 07:54:46 PM
Here's a clue...

Who's the most famous (well know) living Liechtensteiner?

The only Liechtensteiners I can put names to are the skiing Wenzel family that won a bunch of Olympic medals in the 70s and 80s.

How about Marco Büchel??
Yep!
I consider the Wenzel's to be German - although the Olympic committee disagrees...
Did you know that Liechtensteiners have won more Olympic gold medals per capita than any other country?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
So... he will make an appearance? Maybe at Balzers castle? It would be smart of WRP to feature a well known figure among the people there. They are usually good about that.  :js:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 23, 2011, 08:50:38 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

If I recall correctly, its a two hour finale with 2 legs. I remember reading something about a two hour finale, but I may be mistaken.
Yep, it's a two-hour finale I think... two legs in 1 episode (???)
OMG thats awesome   :fun :fun   how is it gonna work out with elimination.. like i dont think theres anymore non-elims
so the point is... will the last team be eliminated every leg up till the finale?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dånooky on April 23, 2011, 09:24:23 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

If I recall correctly, its a two hour finale with 2 legs. I remember reading something about a two hour finale, but I may be mistaken.
Yep, it's a two-hour finale I think... two legs in 1 episode (???)
OMG thats awesome   :fun :fun   how is it gonna work out with elimination.. like i dont think theres anymore non-elims
so the point is... will the last team be eliminated every leg up till the finale?
It will be just like in Season 6, the first hour will have the final elimination and the second hour will have the race to the Finish Line
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: crystiluv on April 23, 2011, 10:11:33 PM
Quote
It will be just like in Season 6, the first hour will have the final elimination and the second hour will have the race to the Finish Line

It's gonna be a lot of fun...  :fun
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: auburnsuperfan97 on April 23, 2011, 10:13:28 PM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

If I recall correctly, its a two hour finale with 2 legs. I remember reading something about a two hour finale, but I may be mistaken.
Yep, it's a two-hour finale I think... two legs in 1 episode (???)
OMG thats awesome   :fun :fun   how is it gonna work out with elimination.. like i dont think theres anymore non-elims
so the point is... will the last team be eliminated every leg up till the finale?
Thats interesting
It will be just like in Season 6, the first hour will have the final elimination and the second hour will have the race to the Finish Line
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
The finale can be discussed in the Finale discussion thread. Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 23, 2011, 10:31:58 PM
Since the fountain is centrally located (2 min walk from both the Mont Cervin Palace Hotel and the fondue restaurant), and we do need just one location left to solve besides the Pit Stop...

I'm calling my fountain as the W-Turn spot then? :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 23, 2011, 10:32:26 PM
3 more weeks of the amazing race UNFINISHED BUSINESS?????

=((((
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 10:40:21 PM
Since the fountain is centrally located (2 min walk from both the Mont Cervin Palace Hotel and the fondue restaurant), and we do need just one location left to solve besides the Pit Stop...

I'm calling my fountain as the W-Turn spot then? :jam:


YES!! :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

Good job Neobie!! This leg is all yours!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 23, 2011, 11:15:13 PM
Did you give the answer the lonely goatherd clue yet?  Because the song is STILL stuck in my head. :) 

If not, in my random wanderings I've discovered there's a goat promenade in Zermatt every morning and every evening... but I think the teams arrive too late for that to have any significance. :lol:       B:)

Perhaps "High on the Hill" is a reference... to I don't know... there are some hotels on nearby hills... and an English church... and some other stuff. 

Or... lonely goatherd.. high on a hill... Sound of Music... I'll just go to bed instead.  :waves: Happy Easter!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2011, 11:17:07 PM
Goats. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 23, 2011, 11:19:29 PM
Happy Easter Everyone at RFF!

Anyways great job everyone, you are all fantastic and that is why I love this site so much!!!!!

Happy Easter Again!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 11:21:09 PM
Did you give the answer the lonely goatherd clue yet?  Because the song is STILL stuck in my head. :) 

If not, in my random wanderings I've discovered there's a goat promenade in Zermatt every morning and every evening... but I think the teams arrive too late for that to have any significance. :lol:       B:)

Perhaps "High on the Hill" is a reference... to I don't know... there are some hotels on nearby hills... and an English church... and some other stuff. 

Or... lonely goatherd.. high on a hill... Sound of Music... I'll just go to bed instead.  :waves: Happy Easter!
OMG, I always thought that the lonely goatherd is a clue to the team who gets eliminated...   :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 23, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
more clues, please. <--- I do really love your clues Peach... I always try to solve it, but had no guts to really post what I think about it... I'm a cowboy fan that's why I'm getting more nervous everyday... I hope the cowboys will be safe this leg...  :'(

And this one's for you bystander...so you BETTER comment!! Even if it just to say has peach lost her mind??!!  :lol:

OH MY PEACH............... You had really lost your mind!
I have been viewing the video three times already... AND many things are going through my mind right now...

Does the video had something to do with the girl and goatherd??? <--- just one of the things going on my mind! hehe XD
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I've been thinking about the promo where Gary went with Jet.... Is it possible that both of them helped each other to get the correct answer... It is seen in the video that Gary wants to go with Jet...
Jen w/ Justin ----> makes easier navigation
Gary w/ Jet ----> makes easier calculation

Vyxin ----> alone; as compared to JenJustin & GaryJet
FT ----> not seen on the video... but was alone also in the previous promos
ALONE ----> bad navigation and you only have yourself for the calculation, no one to confirm it with unlike the pairing of two teams

If Gary gets it right, then probably Jet will just follow Gary's calculation since he was sure he had a wrong turn... therefore most probably Gary and Jet finished this task at the same time... as it is true also for Justin and Jen...
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The previous promos had Cord and the Globetrotters at the same place before the moped task(???)
It made me think they almost started the moped task the same time.... If Jet had the wrong turn, there's a possibility that FT had a wrong turn too or had it right... while Jet was making up for the wrong turn... Gary was able to catch up....
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I don't know where I will put the placing of FT and Vyxsin....
The placement in the first task...
Zev & Justin / Kisha & Jen ---> Either would not U-turn each other as they paired up in navigating to find the location
----> Either of these two teams U-turned the cowboys (thinking that the cowboys were really U-turned; Zev and Justin most probably did it)
[Vyxin or FT probably places here unless they got lost or need to redo the task]
Gary & Mallory / Jet & Cord ---> Won't probably U-turn each other as they went together
----> If ever Jet & Cord arrived on the U-turn Mat before Gary & Mallory, I think they won't U-turn them, or vice-versa because They are Good american people... ( both teams I really think are good people... hehe)
[Vyxin or FT probably places here if they got lost or need to redo to calculate again]
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If Jet & Cord were U-turned... They might have finished the luggage task fast... and was hungry enough after that to eat all the cheese...
The team that gets eliminated could have really messed-up in the moped task....
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I do really hope so that it will not be the cowboys who will get eliminated...  :js:


Any thoughts on what I posted earlier???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: livingincm on April 23, 2011, 11:38:08 PM
more clues, please. <--- I do really love your clues Peach... I always try to solve it, but had no guts to really post what I think about it... I'm a cowboy fan that's why I'm getting more nervous everyday... I hope the cowboys will be safe this leg...  :'(

And this one's for you bystander...so you BETTER comment!! Even if it just to say has peach lost her mind??!!  :lol:

OH MY PEACH............... You had really lost your mind!
I have been viewing the video three times already... AND many things are going through my mind right now...

Does the video had something to do with the girl and goatherd??? <--- just one of the things going on my mind! hehe XD
_____________________________________________
I've been thinking about the promo where Gary went with Jet.... Is it possible that both of them helped each other to get the correct answer... It is seen in the video that Gary wants to go with Jet...
Jen w/ Justin ----> makes easier navigation
Gary w/ Jet ----> makes easier calculation

Vyxin ----> alone; as compared to JenJustin & GaryJet
FT ----> not seen on the video... but was alone also in the previous promos
ALONE ----> bad navigation and you only have yourself for the calculation, no one to confirm it with unlike the pairing of two teams

If Gary gets it right, then probably Jet will just follow Gary's calculation since he was sure he had a wrong turn... therefore most probably Gary and Jet finished this task at the same time... as it is true also for Justin and Jen...
_______________________________________________
The previous promos had Cord and the Globetrotters at the same place before the moped task(???)
It made me think they almost started the moped task the same time.... If Jet had the wrong turn, there's a possibility that FT had a wrong turn too or had it right... while Jet was making up for the wrong turn... Gary was able to catch up....
_______________________________________________
I don't know where I will put the placing of FT and Vyxsin....
The placement in the first task...
Zev & Justin / Kisha & Jen ---> Either would not U-turn each other as they paired up in navigating to find the location
----> Either of these two teams U-turned the cowboys (thinking that the cowboys were really U-turned; Zev and Justin most probably did it)
[Vyxin or FT probably places here unless they got lost or need to redo the task]
Gary & Mallory / Jet & Cord ---> Won't probably U-turn each other as they went together
----> If ever Jet & Cord arrived on the U-turn Mat before Gary & Mallory, I think they won't U-turn them, or vice-versa because They are Good american people... ( both teams I really think are good people... hehe)
[Vyxin or FT probably places here if they got lost or need to redo to calculate again]
________________________________________________
If Jet & Cord were U-turned... They might have finished the luggage task fast... and was hungry enough after that to eat all the cheese...
The team that gets eliminated could have really messed-up in the moped task....
________________________________________________
I do really hope so that it will not be the cowboys who will get eliminated...  :js:


Any thoughts on what I posted earlier???

Hahaha in the promo, jennifer & justin made a mistake i guess. Cos jen mentioned "I bet all the teams have to do this all over again".
I agree with you on the jet & gary part. (Haha mostly cos im a cowboy fan LOL. And also it made sense).
Im pretty sure Jet & Gary will help each other out in the task.
It's hard to predict the verdict of Kent/Vyxin because Vyxin said (in promo 1B) -> "The cowboys are gonna get iced" and they were looking pretty happy.
Let's assume the cowboys are u-turned. The only team that would u-turn the cowboys are FT&BE and Zev/Justin.
As i mentioned, Jen & Justin made a mistake.
Therefore, i think the order of the teams finishing the roadblock is

1) Kent & Vyxin
2) FT & BE
2) Jet & Cord
3) Gary & Mallory
5) Zev/Justin
6) Jen & Kisha

And FT & BE u-turned the cowboys.

I speculate that the team that have trouble with the food is Jen & Kisha followed by Kent & Vyxin for the luggage task.

:)

Just my guess.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 24, 2011, 12:07:28 AM

Hahaha in the promo, jennifer & justin made a mistake i guess. Cos jen mentioned "I bet all the teams have to do this all over again".
I agree with you on the jet & gary part. (Haha mostly cos im a cowboy fan LOL. And also it made sense).
Im pretty sure Jet & Gary will help each other out in the task.
It's hard to predict the verdict of Kent/Vyxin because Vyxin said (in promo 1B) -> "The cowboys are gonna get iced" and they were looking pretty happy.
Let's assume the cowboys are u-turned. The only team that would u-turn the cowboys are FT&BE and Zev/Justin.
As i mentioned, Jen & Justin made a mistake.
Therefore, i think the order of the teams finishing the roadblock is

1) Kent & Vyxin
2) FT & BE
2) Jet & Cord
3) Gary & Mallory
5) Zev/Justin
6) Jen & Kisha

And FT & BE u-turned the cowboys.

I speculate that the team that have trouble with the food is Jen & Kisha followed by Kent & Vyxin for the luggage task.

:)

Just my guess.

I remembered that Peach once posted that Vyxin is doing quite a nice job navigating this season...
Thinking more about it, I think Vyxin did it slowly but surely... Though it took her long to do the task, but she did it in one try... making them the first one to finish it...

Did really jen & justin made a mistake??? maybe I wasn't able to hear what jen said in the caps... I thought she said... something like... she doesn't want to do it all over again... it is more on they are helping each other to go to the end of the task... but thinking on what you have said, and by the looks on how jen is worried... they might have redone the task to get the correct length...

by the statement of Kent and Vyxin... they can't be the one who U-turned the cowboys... but by the looks of it... somebody was at the U-turn Mat before them... they might have seen the cowboys being U-turned... But I can't see it fit why they were on a bus, not unless they were going to a pit stop which is unlikely because they could have taken a cab... These statement might have been said on the bus going to the detour... things are still vague for me....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 24, 2011, 12:28:10 AM
Well we know cowboys can catch up if they are 1 hour behind in the beginning of the leg, (( Passed 2 legs )) but almost 75% through the leg, meh,  I am not sure if they can catch up to beat someone..  
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Phat139 on April 24, 2011, 12:48:43 AM
Hi guys, I'm a new member here, and my name is Phat, from Vietnam ^^
Here we really love watching TAR, on AXN channel, not CBS, 'cuz we didn't have it :P

BTW, Happy Easter everyone!!  :hearts:

P/S: oh yeah, and I'm a BIG Jet&Cord's fan  :hearts: I hope they will survive next leg, make it to the F3 and win the 1 million buck!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 24, 2011, 12:58:05 AM
 :bigwelcome Phat139.  Happy Easter everyone! I hope all of you have a great day!  As for me, I will be serving chinese all day and coming home to watch the race online!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 24, 2011, 01:11:57 AM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

The finale is two hours, two legs (11&12)

does that mean that there's no TBC or NEL before the finale?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DavidJunior on April 24, 2011, 01:13:27 AM
WAIT...maybe goats at the pitstop??

and maybe a goatherder on a hill somewhere around town as the greeter?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 24, 2011, 01:15:31 AM
Well we know cowboys can catch up if they are 1 hour behind in the beginning of the leg, (( Passed 2 legs )) but almost 75% through the leg, meh,  I am not sure if they can catch up to beat someone..  

That is why the roadblock is very crucial... If indeed they were U-turned, then they have to be in the middle who finishes the moped task... and gain at least 30-45 minutes from that task ahead of at least 1 team so that it will be just consumed on the detour tasks... The only thing we need to hope is that Gary was able to help in the calculations of Jet, then others redone the task or lost for quite sometime... I do hope they got U-turned than the ones who could have lost the luggage receipt... Losing the receipt is good as getting U-turned... you need to put some effort in finding it first then to realize they have to switch task then have a hard time eating....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 24, 2011, 01:24:32 AM
Did I miss something? My cable company lists the finale as May 8th, but that makes only 11 episodes, not 12.

The finale is two hours, two legs (11&12)

does that mean that there's no TBC or NEL before the finale?



Most likely. 

This episode will cut 6 teams down to 5.
Ep.10 (cooks in the kitchen) will cut from 5 to 4.
1st half of finale will cut to final 3 and then the 2nd half will show the champ. 

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 02:07:44 AM
New sports promo up in post #2! 

Not much new there so won't do caps unless someone spots something.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: eddiethejet on April 24, 2011, 02:18:10 AM
idk if it's just me, but when phil said in the beginning of the season that this season will be different, i want to believe him.  i dont think we are done seeing stuff that surprises us. maybe we will see it in this episode as cbs is focusing mainly on the roadblock and not showing us much on the detours.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 24, 2011, 02:33:40 AM
New sports promo up in post #2! 

Not much new there so won't do caps unless someone spots something.
Oh My Gravy, the moment of truth will be tomorrow. I can't handle it already. I want to scream. Haha. XD
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Puppet on April 24, 2011, 03:25:04 AM
New sports promo up in post #2! 

Not much new there so won't do caps unless someone spots something.

What a lousy promo. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 03:36:36 AM
PITSTOP CLUE:

What does one cow say??

What do TWO cows say??

Follow the trail to the Pitstop location!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/zermattcow.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: AmazingRace on April 24, 2011, 03:49:59 AM
PITSTOP CLUE:

What does one cow say??  Moo

What do TWO cows say??   Moo...Moo...

Follow the trail to the Pitstop location!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lutpay on April 24, 2011, 04:00:59 AM
PITSTOP CLUE:

What does one cow say??

What do TWO cows say??

Follow the trail to the Pitstop location!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/zermattcow.jpg)

Bergrestaurant-Moos??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 24, 2011, 04:27:11 AM
ok I know this is off topic but I still don't know what this is on the picture
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 04:34:11 AM
PITSTOP CLUE:

What does one cow say??

What do TWO cows say??

Follow the trail to the Pitstop location!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/zermattcow.jpg)

Bergrestaurant-Moos??

Oh VERY Good!! :winner
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 04:35:20 AM
ok I know this is off topic but I still don't know what this is on the picture

The questions thread is the best place for this.

But it ia mike, mostly used when they may get WET.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 24, 2011, 04:57:18 AM
ok I know this is off topic but I still don't know what this is on the picture

The questions thread is the best place for this.

But it ia mike, mostly used when they may get WET.

ohhh right.. thanks peach!!

umm.. sorry but I don't know where the questions thread is.. =)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2011, 05:39:57 AM
ok I know this is off topic but I still don't know what this is on the picture

The questions thread is the best place for this.

But it ia mike, mostly used when they may get WET.

ohhh right.. thanks peach!!

umm.. sorry but I don't know where the questions thread is.. =)

Then for sure it is time to explore the different Amazing Race Forums and see what goes on in them. The Transportation and Map threads are not pinned but below the pinned threads have a lot of info in them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Phat139 on April 24, 2011, 05:42:15 AM
@ianinator: LOL I thought it was a camera or something like that  :lol:....
You're so thoughtful, Cord :P
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2011, 06:07:21 AM
@ianinator: LOL I thought it was a camera or something like that  :lol:....
You're so thoughtful, Cord :P

Racers always wear a wireless microphone. It is normally on the beltline. Everything they say is recorded by the sound man. When racers have to be farther away from the soundman, then they use that chest pack microphone. It is waterproof and more powerful than the belt pack microphone. This enables the racers to be farther away from the soundman.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2011, 06:27:19 AM
Well we know cowboys can catch up if they are 1 hour behind in the beginning of the leg, (( Passed 2 legs )) but almost 75% through the leg, meh,  I am not sure if they can catch up to beat someone..  

That is why the roadblock is very crucial... If indeed they were U-turned, then they have to be in the middle who finishes the moped task... and gain at least 30-45 minutes from that task ahead of at least 1 team so that it will be just consumed on the detour tasks... The only thing we need to hope is that Gary was able to help in the calculations of Jet, then others redone the task or lost for quite sometime... I do hope they got U-turned than the ones who could have lost the luggage receipt... Losing the receipt is good as getting U-turned... you need to put some effort in finding it first then to realize they have to switch task then have a hard time eating....

bystander.........

I really dont mean to rain on your speculations or calculations. From the Transportation Thread, we know that the racers "probably" arrived in Feldkick at approx 0946. We know that Kisha/Jen caught a 1239 train in Sargans to Zurick. So give them 14 minutes to get from Feldkirk Station to Schaanwald and start the moped RB. It is only 3 miles from the station to Schaanwald. Then give Kisha/Jen 39 minutes to get from Balzers Castle by bus to Sargans station to catch that train.

It probably means that it took Jen about 2 hours to do that RB. We are talking about measuring a course ~13-14 miles long, with a speed limit of 30mph. How many times does it appear that Jen traveled that course.....in all directions? It appears to me that Jen had to do 3 trips. 1st one down and wrong answer. 2nd one back to the north border. 3rd one down south. Since she knows where to go this time, she gets a right answer and then is off to the trains. Since she appears to be working with Justin, one could assume he got an incorrect answer too. As Jen said.......she thinks All the teams will be doing it over. I think placing teams in any kind of order, will be very misleading from the info we have at this time.

As far as the W-Turn, I am with the_schnauzers. I just dont see any team using it. The only one that I would think would do that, K/V, have already used theirs. Teams are not stupid. They will all realize they are just one clue away from the Pit Stop. I think they will all decline U-Turning any other team and haul buns to the Pit Stop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Phat139 on April 24, 2011, 06:31:23 AM
@ianinator: LOL I thought it was a camera or something like that  :lol:....
You're so thoughtful, Cord :P

Racers always wear a wireless microphone. It is normally on the beltline. Everything they say is recorded by the sound man. When racers have to be farther away from the soundman, then they use that chest pack microphone. It is waterproof and more powerful than the belt pack microphone. This enables the racers to be farther away from the soundman.
Oh wow thanks... I didn't know that :P
Can you give me the link to post questions about TAR, I want to ask something... (like how can they film when they doing difficult task like diving, climbing, racing...)
... oh and I think Jet & Cord will be safe next leg, 'cuz I noticed that their confession in the promo was from previous episode, not the newset... is that a way to "fish" viewers from CBS? 'Cuz they did know that there were a lot of Jet & Cord fans here... :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2011, 06:42:38 AM
@ianinator: LOL I thought it was a camera or something like that  :lol:....
You're so thoughtful, Cord :P

Racers always wear a wireless microphone. It is normally on the beltline. Everything they say is recorded by the sound man. When racers have to be farther away from the soundman, then they use that chest pack microphone. It is waterproof and more powerful than the belt pack microphone. This enables the racers to be farther away from the soundman.
Oh wow thanks... I didn't know that :P
Can you give me the link to post questions about TAR, I want to ask something... (like how can they film when they doing difficult task like diving, climbing, racing...)
... oh and I think Jet & Cord will be safe next leg, 'cuz I noticed that their confession in the promo was from previous episode, not the newset... is that a way to "fish" viewers from CBS? 'Cuz they did know that there were a lot of Jet & Cord fans here... :D

Check out THE AMAZING RACE DISCUSSION FORUM here

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/board,72.0.html

It is for all non spoiler discussions. Lots of threads there for different kinds of questions.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 24, 2011, 07:28:05 AM
Well we know cowboys can catch up if they are 1 hour behind in the beginning of the leg, (( Passed 2 legs )) but almost 75% through the leg, meh,  I am not sure if they can catch up to beat someone..  

That is why the roadblock is very crucial... If indeed they were U-turned, then they have to be in the middle who finishes the moped task... and gain at least 30-45 minutes from that task ahead of at least 1 team so that it will be just consumed on the detour tasks... The only thing we need to hope is that Gary was able to help in the calculations of Jet, then others redone the task or lost for quite sometime... I do hope they got U-turned than the ones who could have lost the luggage receipt... Losing the receipt is good as getting U-turned... you need to put some effort in finding it first then to realize they have to switch task then have a hard time eating....

bystander.........

I really dont mean to rain on your speculations or calculations. From the Transportation Thread, we know that the racers "probably" arrived in Feldkick at approx 0946. We know that Kisha/Jen caught a 1239 train in Sargans to Zurick. So give them 14 minutes to get from Feldkirk Station to Schaanwald and start the moped RB. It is only 3 miles from the station to Schaanwald. Then give Kisha/Jen 39 minutes to get from Balzers Castle by bus to Sargans station to catch that train.

It probably means that it took Jen about 2 hours to do that RB. We are talking about measuring a course ~13-14 miles long, with a speed limit of 30mph. How many times does it appear that Jen traveled that course.....in all directions? It appears to me that Jen had to do 3 trips. 1st one down and wrong answer. 2nd one back to the north border. 3rd one down south. Since she knows where to go this time, she gets a right answer and then is off to the trains. Since she appears to be working with Justin, one could assume he got an incorrect answer too. As Jen said.......she thinks All the teams will be doing it over. I think placing teams in any kind of order, will be very misleading from the info we have at this time.

As far as the W-Turn, I am with the_schnauzers. I just dont see any team using it. The only one that I would think would do that, K/V, have already used theirs. Teams are not stupid. They will all realize they are just one clue away from the Pit Stop. I think they will all decline U-Turning any other team and haul buns to the Pit Stop.

I understand if you wanted to rain on my speculations. There weren't major calculations on what I posted. What I just wanted to say was that they need that lead to at least equalize the U-turn that may or may not place into them... As for your calculations, I do hope that only jen and justin recalculated or any team other than my bets (jet/cord & gary/mallory)... It does give me hopes that the cowboys are not eliminated, but I do hope if they are safe that they place somewhere in the top three that leg...  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2011, 07:40:11 AM
Also something else to think about. Teams face a 5.5 to 6.5 hour bus/train journey after the RB. There are multiple, multiple connections till that last connecting point Visp. I suspect we will see teams all bunching up at that choke point. For the most part, trains run once an hour from Visp to Zermatt, except about the time we expect teams to arrive in Visp. There is a 1510 train, then about a 1640 train, then a 1710 train..........Kisha/Jen were probably on the 1640 train. That give other teams an extra 30 minutes to catch up for that train. Then only 30 minutes to next train, instead of the normal hour wait.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 24, 2011, 07:52:21 AM
ok I know this is off topic but I still don't know what this is on the picture

The questions thread is the best place for this.

But it ia mike, mostly used when they may get WET.

ohhh right.. thanks peach!!

umm.. sorry but I don't know where the questions thread is.. =)

Then for sure it is time to explore the different Amazing Race Forums and see what goes on in them. The Transportation and Map threads are not pinned but below the pinned threads have a lot of info in them.

WILL DO SIR!!!  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 24, 2011, 07:53:22 AM
@ianinator: LOL I thought it was a camera or something like that  :lol:....
You're so thoughtful, Cord :P

I thought it was like a pocket or something.. =)))
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 07:59:05 AM
So... he will make an appearance? Maybe at Balzers castle? It would be smart of WRP to feature a well known figure among the people there. They are usually good about that.  :js:

Could he be the Pitstop Greeter?  Oh Wait... The Pitstop will be in Switzerland.  Nevermind. LOL
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 24, 2011, 10:35:34 AM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9luggagetags.jpg)


vintage tags for illustration only



That is why the roadblock is very crucial... If indeed they were U-turned, then they have to be in the middle who finishes the moped task... and gain at least 30-45 minutes from that task ahead of at least 1 team so that it will be just consumed on the detour tasks... The only thing we need to hope is that Gary was able to help in the calculations of Jet, then others redone the task or lost for quite sometime... I do hope they got U-turned than the ones who could have lost the luggage receipt... Losing the receipt is good as getting U-turned... you need to put some effort in finding it first then to realize they have to switch task then have a hard time eating....

I like bystander's comment about losing a luggage receipt being a defacto U-Turn. It fits with Peach's clue too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 10:50:16 AM
We know from the press release that:

ONE Team struggles to consume a local delicacy (FONDUE) while others become acquainted with Swiss hospitality (Luggage Delivery??)


But one team may ALSO struggle on the BELLBOY/luggage task.


Luggage tags! :o      Don't forget your receipt!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Ep%209%20Liechtenstein%20and%20Switzerland/TAR18ep9luggagetags.jpg)


vintage tags for illustration only



That is why the roadblock is very crucial... If indeed they were U-turned, then they have to be in the middle who finishes the moped task... and gain at least 30-45 minutes from that task ahead of at least 1 team so that it will be just consumed on the detour tasks... The only thing we need to hope is that Gary was able to help in the calculations of Jet, then others redone the task or lost for quite sometime... I do hope they got U-turned than the ones who could have lost the luggage receipt... Losing the receipt is good as getting U-turned... you need to put some effort in finding it first then to realize they have to switch task then have a hard time eating....

I like bystander's comment about losing a luggage receipt being a defacto U-Turn. It fits with Peach's clue too.

OK... If the cowboys decided to switch detour after losing the receipt and do cheese instead that is fine.  If they are the ones who lost the receipt AND got U-Turned to boot, they are sunk.  They have to COMPLETE both detour options in the U-Turn.  They would first have to find the receipt or get a new one and then go do the cheese.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shiryu01 on April 24, 2011, 11:01:26 AM
Uhm, I think the cowboys do get u-turned, but somebody else loses the receipt and/or doesn't figure out the clue for the pit stop and gets eliminated. To me it makes sense to u-turn a team as strong as Jet and Cord are, especially as we are getting close to the final leg and it could be the last chance to do so. In fact, I'd go as far as saying that IMO the GTs are the ones who u-turn them, it would fit with their comment in one of the video promos and with the statement that everyone is "ganging up" on the cowboys. How else can one or more teams damage another if not by using the u-turn?

Uhm, I think for the first time tonight I'll watch the live stream! Peach, I'm counting on you!!  :<3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 11:08:14 AM
Another thing that I am struggling with... When Gary met up with Jet on the moped task, Gary said his od reading was 10.75 and Jet said his was 17.5 and that he thought he took a wrong turn somewhere. Wouldn't Jet have to go back to the beginning before heading out with Gary or at least do the task over to get the correct reading I wonder?  I can't see Gary (who is already a bit behind) waiting for Jet to go all the way back to the start and then come back for him.  More likely that Jet continued on with Gary in hopes he would be close enough and then possibly had to repeat the task?

I predict that Gary got it right, Jet got it wrong and Gallory are ahead of Jet & Cord at this point.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bystander on April 24, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
Another thing that I am struggling with... When Gary met up with Jet on the moped task, Gary said his od reading was 10.75 and Jet said his was 17.5 and that he thought he took a wrong turn somewhere. Wouldn't Jet have to go back to the beginning before heading out with Gary or at least do the task over to get the correct reading I wonder?  I can't see Gary (who is already a bit behind) waiting for Jet to go all the way back to the start and then come back for him.  More likely that Jet continued on with Gary in hopes he would be close enough and then possibly had to repeat the task?

I predict that Gary got it right, Jet got it wrong and Gallory are ahead of Jet & Cord at this point.

They only had to calculate the length... I guess that it is legal to follow somebody's answer especially if they were helping each other... They only had to show their calculations, if they had the wrong answer they can approximate on how much they travelled the wrong way or the turn abouts... the best way though to get it right is to redo it again...  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 11:59:52 AM
They only had to calculate the length... I guess that it is legal to follow somebody's answer especially if they were helping each other... They only had to show their calculations, if they had the wrong answer they can approximate on how much they travelled the wrong way or the turn abouts... the best way though to get it right is to redo it again...  :duno:

The Promo's say they have to measure... Unless someone is keeping extremely good notes, there is no way they could accurately calculate if they know they have taken wrong turns or traveled the wrong way for any amount of time.  They would almost certainly have to repeat it if they were wrong the first time.  There shouldn't be any excuse not to get it right the second time.  If Gary got it right the first time and they accept Jet's 'Copy' calculations from Gary, they should be fine then.  I was just thinking the Odometer reading had to be correct or only off by a small amount. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: tombc52 on April 24, 2011, 02:26:42 PM
hey there

as i live right next door i decided to check out the actual locations

the pic with gary & mallory doing there speedbump is definitely in schaanwald right next to the border, unfortunately i wasnt able to figure out the actual location

the pic with jet & cord is on the footpath up to balzers castle
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 02:30:21 PM
Oh tomb!! This is wonderful, thank you so much! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
I have just posted an Episode 9 SPOILER SUMMARY in post #1!! Enjoy!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2011, 02:51:06 PM
Thanks tombc52!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Heliox on April 24, 2011, 02:56:39 PM
Thanks for the episode summary, was driving me nuts trying to find previews that could be viewed in Canada.

And that last  clip of Jet/Cord with Cord in the bellboy suit and saying 'we are not going until you say go' ... I assume that is at the pitstop this leg?? Or am I totally confused on this, it seems so odd to release something from the pit mat. Cowboys are safe??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shiryu01 on April 24, 2011, 03:00:11 PM
Thanks for the episode summary, was driving me nuts trying to find previews that could be viewed in Canada.

And that last  clip of Jet/Cord with Cord in the bellboy suit and saying 'we are not going until you say go' ... I assume that is at the pitstop this leg?? Or am I totally confused on this, it seems so odd to release something from the pit mat. Cowboys are safe??
It's from last leg, you can sort of see Jen and Cord is wearing the chimney sweeper uniform.
The real question is what Peach meant by posting it here...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 24, 2011, 03:00:33 PM
 B:)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 24, 2011, 03:06:40 PM
Awesome episode summary, Peach!  I'm very excited about this episode.  

Thanks for the photo of the Kaiser building, tombc52!  So it's not their  main factory building but probably something nearby?  We'll find out soon enough.

My personal hope is that one of the three non-Kentucky teams goes home, but I honestly don't mind either way.  It's all fun.  
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 03:16:07 PM
Thanks for the episode summary, was driving me nuts trying to find previews that could be viewed in Canada.

And that last  clip of Jet/Cord with Cord in the bellboy suit and saying 'we are not going until you say go' ... I assume that is at the pitstop this leg?? Or am I totally confused on this, it seems so odd to release something from the pit mat. Cowboys are safe??
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We always have the vids, Heliox, post 2!! :happy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 24, 2011, 03:49:03 PM
Now I feel silly, looks like that building is right across the street and the SB location is right off the road in the little parking area.  The rail poles, the litlte burned area, the trees all seem to match.   http://goo.gl/maps/FPPw

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That video's ending with "One more leg" seems a little doomsday like. :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 03:59:03 PM
I think this is where they get the bikes, so very easy for G/M if the speedbump is right there. AND they can walk right over from border control too. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: tombc52 on April 24, 2011, 04:02:35 PM
Now I feel silly, looks like that building is right across the street and the SB location is right off the road in the little parking area.  The rail poles, the litlte burned area, the trees all seem to match.   http://goo.gl/maps/FPPw

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That video's ending with "One more leg" seems a little doomsday like. :)

Thats what I was thinking too but thats not where it is. There a thick bushes obstructing the view to the Kaiser Building from the parking area.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
Could they maybe be up on the slope beside the building? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 24, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
That video's ending with "One more leg" seems a little doomsday like. :)

Reminds me of the epilogues of movies after the main character dies, with a clip from a home video camera showing happier times and foreshadowing to the inevitable...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: raina on April 24, 2011, 04:22:49 PM
Thats what I was thinking too but thats not where it is. There a thick bushes obstructing the view to the Kaiser Building from the parking area.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eVtf-1vweo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eVtf-1vweo)  

You can see the building in this video at 0:22 seconds and then the little parking lot area/hill area? where they would've taken the shot from...  I think since it was winter, the trees wouldn't obstruct the view.  You can see a few of them in the shot of Gary/Mallory. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: graytex on April 24, 2011, 04:31:52 PM
The video of Jet & Cord from the last mat...seems pretty ominous to me.  "We're still here until you say go...one more leg."  Maybe this is the "one more leg".
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shiryu01 on April 24, 2011, 04:55:09 PM
I'm clutching at straws here, but maybe it means they are still safe at the end? I mean, it's not like Peach could have posted a clip from the new episode.
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Ok, I admit there is hardly hope  :( U-Turned near the end, with virtually no time to make up, and probably the only u-turned team too. There's no way they can survive this.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 24, 2011, 05:07:24 PM
Ughhhh...  Now I don't even want to watch...    :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Saravannan on April 24, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
Ughhhh...  Now I don't even want to watch...    :'( :'( :'( :'(

I'm absolutely terrified too D:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 24, 2011, 05:20:47 PM
I still do not think that Jet and Cord are going to get eliminated.

I just do not see it happening. But I guess if the evidence says so......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Saravannan on April 24, 2011, 05:24:46 PM
I still do not think that Jet and Cord are going to get eliminated.

I just do not see it happening. But I guess if the evidence says so......


I'm hoping Peach is just trying to trick us all and it's actually someone completely unexpected like the Globetrotters, but... it's really stacking up against the cowboys.

The video that Peach has from the last episode is really tripping me out though. Is she trying to tell us that they're not leaving until they have to (Not yet, I hope)? Or is she trying to tell us that they're only here for one more leg?

Must wait another 2.5 hours to find out... Going to pass out... *dies*  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Oddarane on April 24, 2011, 05:29:24 PM
Going to be a very excitied episode. Too bad I wait till tomorrow watching it due to time difference.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Laimis on April 24, 2011, 05:32:57 PM
Were can I watch the amazing race online? For this episode, with all of you :D ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 05:33:31 PM
Going to be a very excitied episode. Too bad I wait till tomorrow watching it due to time difference.

You can watch with us right here if you can hang out another 1.5 hours!!

Look for the stickied streaming video thread!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: nash on April 24, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Since it is Easter Sunday....

Check out Luke 6:27-36 and let's all try to be KIND to one another! 

Blessings to all,

-Nash-
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Heliox on April 24, 2011, 05:46:13 PM
Thanks for the episode summary, was driving me nuts trying to find previews that could be viewed in Canada.
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We always have the vids, Heliox, post 2!! :happy:

And that was my problem, I had read that somewhere, but I read it as PAGE 2.. and couldn't find them. Will know next time.  silly me... :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Zvarri on April 24, 2011, 05:47:19 PM
Geez, I wasn't even trying to start a fight. I was just poking fun about all the worry you people show.








 Read the rules, they are your friend (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23776.0.html)  :vader:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 05:48:55 PM
:knuckles: We need to stop this before a flame war breaks out.  :lol:

 

Amen to that, it would be a shame to get a ban tonight!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2011, 05:54:18 PM
I thought we had a forum for all the cast love/hate comments

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23809.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 24, 2011, 05:56:06 PM
Since it is Easter Sunday....

Check out Luke 6:27-36 and let's all try to be KIND to one another! 

Blessings to all,

-Nash-


This sounds likes good advice to me!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Saravannan on April 24, 2011, 05:58:15 PM
:knuckles: We need to stop this before a flame war breaks out.  :lol:

 

Amen to that, it would be a shame to get a ban tonight!

Sorry, I didn't think I was starting a war! I was just having fun.  :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 24, 2011, 06:07:17 PM
Great spoiler summary! Do them again, peach!

I was wondering what this means:

Quote
Will another team face the double U-Turn as well?? Who does the Yielding??

Probably a typo but some people might jump to conclusions.  :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 06:11:31 PM
We'll be switching to the SHOW thread in a little while...there will be NONE of this over there, right??

:ghug:

And DrRox is absolutely right, fan love/hate goes in that thread. But I am too danged tired to move it all.

Thanks Prophet...I still think of the UTurn as a Yield I guess!

I have wanted to do these every ep but they take a LOT of time, and my real life doesn't let me very often!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: JETandCORDfan on April 24, 2011, 06:12:51 PM
Either Way, Great Job Peach!!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Saravannan on April 24, 2011, 06:25:09 PM
No bickering in the other thread.  :snicker:

I'm predicting a great episode keeping us all on the edge of our seats the whole time.

Kind of off topic, but does anyone else think the roadblock seemed like an amazing idea? It seems like a task that every racer would remember forever and it also seems like it could put a whole lot of distance between the great navigators and the so-so ones if it's executed well.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 06:39:50 PM

I'm predicting a great episode keeping us all on the edge of our seats the whole time.


This will be considered a MAJOR game changing episode I think...can't wait to see how it all unfolds!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 06:45:47 PM

I'm predicting a great episode keeping us all on the edge of our seats the whole time.


This will be considered a MAJOR game changing episode I think...can't wait to see how it all unfolds!!

I finally figured out who is eliminated. But my lips are  :-X
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kim05 on April 24, 2011, 06:48:50 PM
Don't be that way...do tell!!  Pleassssse.  I got my idea, and I am not happy with my guess (Cowboys).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 06:52:00 PM
Don't be that way...do tell!!  Pleassssse.  I got my idea, and I am not happy with my guess (Cowboys).

I had better not because then I will have people all mad that I spilled what they have tried so hard to keep quiet. But Peach is right about MAJOR game change!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shiryu01 on April 24, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
I think I got it too now ^^
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: ianinator on April 24, 2011, 06:54:44 PM
okay because of the time difference... (I watch TAR every monday) I woke up at 6 am today thinking about who U-turned Jet and Cord and went back to sleep and after that I've been thinking about them the whole time until I woke up again... that's how I'm worried about the cowboys...

In my dream, it was Kisha and Jen that u-turned the cowboys T_T

but I speculate that the cowboys screwed up the luggage detour probably lost the receipt... and decided to do the eating one..

so there's still HOPE!!!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Saravannan on April 24, 2011, 06:55:12 PM
Don't be that way...do tell!!  Pleassssse.  I got my idea, and I am not happy with my guess (Cowboys).

I had better not because then I will have people all mad that I spilled what they have tried so hard to keep quiet. But Peach is right about MAJOR game change!

Just wondering, after the episode's done, could you tell us how you figured it out? The rest of us haven't learned how to speak Peachy yet  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kim05 on April 24, 2011, 06:58:09 PM
I am wondering who is coming in first...i can't get a handle on that one.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 06:59:29 PM
speak peachy....:lol3:

:kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kim05 on April 24, 2011, 07:00:55 PM
I wish i could...lol 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 07:03:31 PM
Don't be that way...do tell!!  Pleassssse.  I got my idea, and I am not happy with my guess (Cowboys).

I had better not because then I will have people all mad that I spilled what they have tried so hard to keep quiet. But Peach is right about MAJOR game change!

Just wondering, after the episode's done, could you tell us how you figured it out? The rest of us haven't learned how to speak Peachy yet  :'(

LMAO
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 07:06:02 PM
I am wondering who is coming in first...i can't get a handle on that one.

I do not know 100% sure but I speculate it's Herb & Nate or any of the teams except the one that got eliminated! ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: docol on April 24, 2011, 08:00:34 PM
thank you god...the cowboys are gone.....what a happy easter day!!!!!!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: scruffs on April 24, 2011, 08:35:11 PM
so sad that the cowboys are gone...  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: steve2011 on April 24, 2011, 09:12:53 PM
 the cowboys are gone :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 24, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
Just wondering, after the episode's done, could you tell us how you figured it out? The rest of us haven't learned how to speak Peachy yet  :'(

Peach speak is not all that hard... She basically handed it on a silver platter and pretty bow with the video in the summary thread.  Up to that point, I was fairly sure the Cowboys were safe. 

But I got to tell ya... I didn't choose the Cowboys to get eliminated in my game.  I chose Zev & Justin.  We saw some answers in another game that indicated them and then mis-read something at the CBS sight.  The voice inside my head kept thinking of the video but I was explaining it away saying... They get eliminated next week... One more week. OMG
I was going to go change it at the very, very, very last minute to Jet & Cord and by that time I was too late.

The biggest mistake the Dumboys made was Jet taking off and leaving Gary behind. DORK!  See, he thought he was so smart and sneaky and the karma hit him full force in the butt at the end! LOL
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kpop_suju13_elf on April 24, 2011, 10:07:14 PM
  :hearts: I LOVE THIS.. ... Gallory IN Cowboys OUT :neener:
My Final Three is..
1. Gallory
2. Zevtin
3.Jenisha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kpop_suju13_elf on April 24, 2011, 10:10:38 PM
GO Gary and Mallory!!!!

I think Amazing race is Unfair to the Cowboys they are strong But we need to accept that because it's the part of the Game..... :colors :meow:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 10:28:04 PM
:welcome: to RFF kpop!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 24, 2011, 10:36:40 PM
Peach, I like your new outfit!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lutpay on April 24, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
after the episode, Eric is the only person who made it into the final 3 TWICE :groan:

we'll get the fresh new F3!  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 24, 2011, 10:43:37 PM
I can't wait to watch season 19

Hope there will be a lot of interesting teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 24, 2011, 10:58:15 PM
Let's stay on topic please?? :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Jobby on April 24, 2011, 11:25:41 PM
I really liked the Detour, but thought that the help that all the racers gave one another was really a huge turn-off. The Roadblock was supposed to be a good one, but there should be a rule written that you cannot help one another. Even if it means Gary and Mallory getting eliminated, at least that's fair.

This just proves that you can't just SOLO on the race and you'll need some help at one point or another.

And i disagree with the statement made that Goths are Dandrewing. They have done so well for the past 2 legs ON THEIR OWN. I correct myself, Vyxsin has done so well for the past 2 legs. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: LoveRocked on April 24, 2011, 11:35:12 PM
I am sad Cowboy are gone that elimination! :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: muffin on April 25, 2011, 12:38:14 AM
I really liked the Detour, but thought that the help that all the racers gave one another was really a huge turn-off. The Roadblock was supposed to be a good one, but there should be a rule written that you cannot help one another. Even if it means Gary and Mallory getting eliminated, at least that's fair.

This just proves that you can't just SOLO on the race and you'll need some help at one point or another.

The cowboys played a fair game. The rests are cheaters. Have been watching the amazing race when they first air and never missed an episode. This episode is just a turn-off. Will stop watching the amazing race from now on.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: thespicdatum on April 25, 2011, 12:45:38 AM
I hate to see the Cowboys go.

But great tribute music in the closing....  :js:


The cowboys wouldn't be elimintaed if not for the social factor (other teams helping almost all the others except the cowboys) but it's part of the game. It's becoming a lot like Survivor these days.

I wish K & V will be eliminated next. I actually like them during the first few episodes but Kent is becoming a pain to watch lately.


Hoping gallory wins the race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 25, 2011, 02:04:07 AM
Allow me to make a personal request to move excessive outpouring of emotion to some other place.
Especially before an episode airs when spoiling should take precedence.

A little note on editing: We've figured out that Jennifer tells Justin about the loss of her map on their way to Balzers Castle, after the handing-over of answers, so the two scenes were shown to the viewer out of order. It seems to be adding on to the (in my opinion, inane) "cheaters" hatefest going on. But for TPTB, does it achieve a more coherent storyline?

Good job on this leg, guys! And a very strong first impression you're making, Raina!

Also, do you spot Uncle Cameraman in this classic shot? :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 25, 2011, 07:43:48 AM
Helping each other at different points in the Race is so common.  Teams have helped each other nearly every single season at one point or another, so why is everyone so shocked and appauled and calling foul??

Had Jet not got cocky and sped off leaving Gary behind in the RB, he would have got help too and not had to repeat the task.  The Trotters would probably be gone right now, not the Cowboys.  That was Jet's fault, not anyone else's. JMO

The U-Turns are put there for teams to U-Turn other teams.  It's the nature of the game.  Would the Trotters have made the PS without U-Turning the Boys? Probably.  But Jet and Cord were so close behind them that they couldn't take the risk... Things can change on the way to the PS and they wanted to make sure they had plenty of time. Can't blame the Trotters for covering their own butts.

Now it's time for the Cowboy fans to pick themselves by the boot straps and pick another team to get behind and root for!  Go Gallory! Go Zev & Justin!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kevin2012 on April 25, 2011, 07:55:49 AM
  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( THE COWBOYS!!!!

well, at least they went out with a smile... :tup: and love their music playing as a tribute (also sad that it's probably the last time we'll ever hear it, unless there's an Amazing Race: Heroes vs. Villains)

anybody else noticed how the greeter seemed to be crying watching
Jet and Cord being eliminated?

One more thing... I'm a new member, can anyone tell me how I can add a picture to one of my posts? I don't understand how to do it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 25, 2011, 08:02:27 AM
OH! I have to say one more thing about this leg and then I will move on to figuring out next week...

KENT and Vxysin need to go!  It's like Vxysin put her infant crybaby son in a stroller and pushed him to the park!  Grrrrr WTH Kent?  I swear if these two get into the final three or god forbid win this race... That would be a travesty.   (:;)  JMO
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Coutzy on April 25, 2011, 08:04:17 AM
OH! I have to say one more thing about this leg and then I will move on to figuring out next week...

KENT and Vxysin need to go!  It's like Vxysin put her infant crybaby son in a stroller and pushed him to the park!  Grrrrr WTH Kent?  I swear if these two get into the final three or god forbid win this race... That would be a travesty.   (:;)  JMO

To be fair, he was a lot more cheerful before he cracked his rib.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kevin2012 on April 25, 2011, 08:08:27 AM
OH! I have to say one more thing about this leg and then I will move on to figuring out next week...

KENT and Vxysin need to go!  It's like Vxysin put her infant crybaby son in a stroller and pushed him to the park!  Grrrrr WTH Kent?  I swear if these two get into the final three or god forbid win this race... That would be a travesty.   (:;)  JMO

to be honest, I enjoy watching Kent & Vyxsin, sure they're not the best racers but they're still a lot of fun.

Still, I would pick Jet & Cord over Kent & Vyxsin ANYDAY

Kent's whining is more amusing than annoying, I nearly died laughing watching Vyxsin literally "drag" Kent in the luggage cart
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: boston_jen on April 25, 2011, 08:27:44 AM
(but Vyxsin + map = automatic drop in the standings)

My apologies to Vyxsin.  She figured it out on her own, despite her doubts over her wadded-up map, and maintained their third place standing afterall.  Her decision to put Kent in the luggage cart was a riot. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2011, 09:23:12 AM
For those who attribute the elimination of the Cowboys to being U-Turned by Flight Time and Big Easy, it was totally irrelevant. The fact is that FT/BE arrived in Zermatt at least one hour ahead of Jet/Cord and there is on reason to believe that they did the DETOUR any slower until they discovered that tags were missing. At that time, they had to return to the one hotel where they may have lost them, which would take only minutes in Zermatt. It is my conclusion that Jet/Cord finished the Luggage DETOUR at least a half hour after FT/BE. Since the distance to Restaurant Moos was short, it did not matter whether they were U-Turned or not.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 25, 2011, 09:33:45 AM
(but Vyxsin + map = automatic drop in the standings)

My apologies to Vyxsin.  She figured it out on her own, despite her doubts over her wadded-up map, and maintained their third place standing afterall.  Her decision to put Kent in the luggage cart was a riot. 


Actually, Vxysin got help with the map from Gary...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TexasLady on April 25, 2011, 09:38:37 AM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( THE COWBOYS!!!!

well, at least they went out with a smile... :tup: and love their music playing as a tribute (also sad that it's probably the last time we'll ever hear it, unless there's an Amazing Race: Heroes vs. Villains)

anybody else noticed how the greeter seemed to be crying watching
Jet and Cord being eliminated?

One more thing... I'm a new member, can anyone tell me how I can add a picture to one of my posts? I don't understand how to do it.

I liked the Cowboys too, I hated seeing them eliminated.  :'(

You can find help with adding pictures here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12374.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: boston_jen on April 25, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
Quote

Actually, Vxysin got help with the map from Gary...

Did she?  My daughter sat on the remote right after Justin and Jen showed their 22k papers, so it must have happened around then.  I will have to rewatch.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Jobby on April 25, 2011, 10:38:13 AM
I believe Justin and Vyxsin are the only ones who solved it on their own, besides the cowboys..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2011, 10:58:03 AM
I actaully think Gary may have already had it too, even though FT gave him the number?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 25, 2011, 11:21:07 AM
I actaully think Gary may have already had it too, even though FT gave him the number?

I think so too.  I just re-watched.  Justin & Jen helped each other, then they helped Herb.  I think Gary helped Vxysin with the map and I think he had the number right but Herb confirmed it.  Although they didn't show it, I think Gary helped Jet with the map and then Gary fell in behind Jet who then took off but he was so far off that he had to redo it.  LOL :groan:  He should have thrown out the 17.5 and taken Gary's 10.75 at that gas station and went from there. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 25, 2011, 11:31:19 AM
I believe Justin and Vyxsin are the only ones who solved it on their own, besides the cowboys..

I went back and watched. Justin and Jen both had correct numbers, all Justin did was confirm Jen's number. He didnt tell her the number, just that her number was correct. The crazy editing makes it look like they helped each other out before they got to the check in point. When Jen offered to read the map for Justin, that was after they both got correct numbers and were on the way to the castle......editing makes it look like it was before.

Vyxsin got help from Gary. She actually parked the moped and started trying to find local help before Gary arrived. Flight Time got the correct milage from Jen and then gave it to Gary, even though Gary probably already had the correct number.

The Gary/Vyxsin collaboration might be similiar to the Justin/Jen deal........after they had already checked in with correct milage and were looking for the castle........I just need to find that location and see.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: lovetherace on April 25, 2011, 12:08:44 PM
I think so too.  I just re-watched.  Justin & Jen helped each other, then they helped Herb.  I think Gary helped Vxysin with the map and I think he had the number right but Herb confirmed it.  Although they didn't show it, I think Gary helped Jet with the map and then Gary fell in behind Jet who then took off but he was so far off that he had to redo it.  LOL   He should have thrown out the 17.5 and taken Gary's 10.75 at that gas station and went from there.


Sorry, wasn't sure how to do the quote thing in the box.

Actually, I agree with a poster on another forum, that Jet did actually use Gary's number at the end of the RB but screwed up the calculation.  He already knew he'd made mistakes when he saw Gary at the gas station; since he was possibly off by more than 6 km, he knew he'd have to go a long way back from the gas station to try again.  Using Gary's info made sense, especially since Gary was willing to help.  I also think he might have stuck with Gary to get past another tricky navigation, and that's when he went on ahead.  So I don't think the Cowboy's game was any "fairer" than anyone else. They all got help at some point on the RB.

Also agree that Gary probably was already on track with the correct final number, and Flight Time's info basically just confirmed it.

IMO, Jet basically shot himself in the foot (sorry, couldn't resist!).  The cowboys had two big flaws that came into play in this RB - not so great navigational skills, and too much of the lone ranger attitude.  Don't mean they should have been friendly with the other teams to get info (though again, Gary was willing to help), but that they should have paid attention to keeping other teams in sight.  If Jet had stuck with Gary, at least he'd know that they'd both have to go back to the start if their final number was wrong.  The cowboys were so good generally at smoking the tasks, the chance of them blasting through a Detour ahead of Gary and Mallory was pretty good (especially, as it turned out, Gary had trouble getting going on the luggage task).  Instead, Jet was the only one who had to go all the way back to the start, and it cost them.   

Not sure the info sharing bothered me, maybe because I feel the teams have been working hard through all these legs.  The possible exception is Flight Time; had the impression once he realized he was screwed up, he just coasted looking for someone to tell him the correct answer.  The other teams used help, but seemed to put in a good effort.  I guess at least Flight Time paid it forward by offering the info to Gary...

Have lurked for a while...really enjoy reading the forums - you guys are incredible at figuring things out!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2011, 12:20:04 PM
I should have been on top of this when Peach first put the name out in the open, but better late than never. "Restaurant Moos"is at the bottom of the Gornergrat mountain with view of the Matterhorn from the adjacent apartment. Cabs cannot stop right in front of the house. The apartment offers a beautiful view of the Matterhorn mountain. Restaurant Moos is in the district of Moos 2 km from the center of Zermatt, bus stop "Wichje" 700 m, railway station "Kleines Matterhorn" 1 km, free Ski bus stop 700 m, (that may have been the conveyance we saw in last night's telecast).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2011, 12:37:28 PM
Teams took electic taxis to the Pitstop.

This is their website, lovely pano pics!

http://bergrestaurant-moos.ch/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 25, 2011, 12:42:32 PM

IMO, Jet basically shot himself in the foot (sorry, couldn't resist!).  The cowboys had two big flaws that came into play in this RB - not so great navigational skills, and too much of the lone ranger attitude.  Don't mean they should have been friendly with the other teams to get info (though again, Gary was willing to help), but that they should have paid attention to keeping other teams in sight.  If Jet had stuck with Gary, at least he'd know that they'd both have to go back to the start if their final number was wrong.  The cowboys were so good generally at smoking the tasks, the chance of them blasting through a Detour ahead of Gary and Mallory was pretty good (especially, as it turned out, Gary had trouble getting going on the luggage task).  Instead, Jet was the only one who had to go all the way back to the start, and it cost them.   

:bigwelcome to RFF! That is exactly what I have always thought about the cowboys. So good at tasks most of the time but they have those glaring flaws that make it hard for them to keep up. It's sad because they are a fun team to watch and have many good qualities.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: milanissimo on April 25, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Finally a Great episode.. :yess:
There were ....everything...
Drama,good tasks  :tup: ,trains,taxi,bus....double u-turn...good locations ,sensational  development......

Probably the  best episode of this season...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 25, 2011, 04:11:00 PM
I actaully think Gary may have already had it too, even though FT gave him the number?

I think so too.  I just re-watched.  Justin & Jen helped each other, then they helped Herb.  I think Gary helped Vxysin with the map and I think he had the number right but Herb confirmed it.  Although they didn't show it, I think Gary helped Jet with the map and then Gary fell in behind Jet who then took off but he was so far off that he had to redo it.  LOL :groan:  He should have thrown out the 17.5 and taken Gary's 10.75 at that gas station and went from there. 

Jet's incorrect answer was 35 km. Even if he'd subtracted 6.75 km from that in order to match Gary's calculation, he would've gotten 28.25, which would've still been wrong.  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Neobie on April 25, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
Jet's incorrect answer was 35 km. Even if he'd subtracted 6.75 km from that in order to match Gary's calculation, he would've gotten 28.25, which would've still been wrong.  :duno:

What Noisack's point (quoted from TWoP) is that Jet got 28km on his odometer, but added 6km instead of subtracting it to get an (even more) incorrect answer.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: bentjen on April 25, 2011, 05:35:11 PM
I wondered too about Jet's weird answer of 35 km.  If he somehow got confused and thought the 22 (which he might have gotten from Gary's mention) was in MILES, then maybe he tried to convert that into KILOMETERS by multiplying by 1.6, which would have indeed left him at 35.

22 x 1.6 =35

I hope that we can hear from the cowboys what went wrong.

Also, they may not have appreciated the U-Turn by Herb and Nate, but let's be realistic.  Those GT boys have had numerous challenges finding pits tops in general (they were ahead of Zev and Justin last week and still ended up arriving about 15 minutes later and missed out on getting the cars).  They may have only been minutes ahead of the cowboys and trying to navigate in the dark.

And personally, I don't think any of the remaining teams will have a problem with it, since many expressed concern on how well the Cowboys race. I don't think any of the remaining teams is really scared of the GTs winning it all.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 25, 2011, 05:37:30 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, bentjen and all other new members!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: coolio on April 25, 2011, 06:41:11 PM
Would Jet really know how to convert kilometers into miles. Just sayn' I don't know that, and I'm not sure how many people would actually know that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2011, 07:43:16 PM
Multiply by 0.6 for a close estimate.

But the odometer and the results were in km.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kevin2012 on April 25, 2011, 07:46:26 PM
Finally a Great episode.. :yess:
There were ....everything...
Drama,good tasks  :tup: ,trains,taxi,bus....double u-turn...good locations ,sensational  development......

Probably the  best episode of this season...

you're right, this episode was great, except the elimination.

This season more than makes up for the extremely mediocre 17th season
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 25, 2011, 09:43:16 PM
After watching the RB a few more times, only a few things are clearer:
  • FT makes his wrong turn in central Schaan (the Restaurant Central (http://restaurant-central.li/) can be seen in the background). This may account for the north-bound caps.
  • I am certain of only Justin having the correct answer (but I need new ears: I would swear he says "forty-two kilometers"). Jen and Gary might have had the correct answers, but we'll never know because of the editing.
  • The answers Jet and Vyxsin provided were written in the same hand.  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 25, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
I think so too.  I just re-watched.  Justin & Jen helped each other, then they helped Herb.  I think Gary helped Vxysin with the map and I think he had the number right but Herb confirmed it.  Although they didn't show it, I think Gary helped Jet with the map and then Gary fell in behind Jet who then took off but he was so far off that he had to redo it.  LOL   He should have thrown out the 17.5 and taken Gary's 10.75 at that gas station and went from there.


Sorry, wasn't sure how to do the quote thing in the box.

Actually, I agree with a poster on another forum, that Jet did actually use Gary's number at the end of the RB but screwed up the calculation.  He already knew he'd made mistakes when he saw Gary at the gas station; since he was possibly off by more than 6 km, he knew he'd have to go a long way back from the gas station to try again.  Using Gary's info made sense, especially since Gary was willing to help.  I also think he might have stuck with Gary to get past another tricky navigation, and that's when he went on ahead.  So I don't think the Cowboy's game was any "fairer" than anyone else. They all got help at some point on the RB.

Also agree that Gary probably was already on track with the correct final number, and Flight Time's info basically just confirmed it.

IMO, Jet basically shot himself in the foot (sorry, couldn't resist!).  The cowboys had two big flaws that came into play in this RB - not so great navigational skills, and too much of the lone ranger attitude.  Don't mean they should have been friendly with the other teams to get info (though again, Gary was willing to help), but that they should have paid attention to keeping other teams in sight.  If Jet had stuck with Gary, at least he'd know that they'd both have to go back to the start if their final number was wrong.  The cowboys were so good generally at smoking the tasks, the chance of them blasting through a Detour ahead of Gary and Mallory was pretty good (especially, as it turned out, Gary had trouble getting going on the luggage task).  Instead, Jet was the only one who had to go all the way back to the start, and it cost them.  

Not sure the info sharing bothered me, maybe because I feel the teams have been working hard through all these legs.  The possible exception is Flight Time; had the impression once he realized he was screwed up, he just coasted looking for someone to tell him the correct answer.  The other teams used help, but seemed to put in a good effort.  I guess at least Flight Time paid it forward by offering the info to Gary...

Have lurked for a while...really enjoy reading the forums - you guys are incredible at figuring things out!

good point, probably Jet is over confident.  He thought Gary was last place in the last leg, He didn't really want to team up with him. That kind of mindset cost them. But he should remember at task like this, it is very easy to screw up and you don't want to do it again.

But a second thought, who would think everyone else confirms their number before hand it over?
I could only say, Jet plays by the rule in a silly and normal way while others play in a smart, astute and realistic way.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 25, 2011, 10:21:56 PM
one thing i'm confused is,

if Jet got the wrong number, why didn't he just think for a while and try to figure out the right answer before redo the whole task?

Probably, he thought it was the rule, you have to redo it.

If the rule is that strict, odometer should play its role. Because if one is not allowed to figure out the right number after the task, then he shouldn't be allowed to confirm the answer before the task as well.

Let's suppose, Jet got the wrong number, then he figured for a while , he did some substraction and addition. Then he got the right number, do you think he still need to go back and redo the task?  Or, if Jet finds someone to ask for the right number, would he have to redo the task?
The rule is really there to trick people. Jet thought at least one other team would get the wrong answer.

The situation is really like a maths test, while everyone else is checking and confirming their answers before they submit the test paper and one student doesn't check and he gets the wrong answer and he has to redo the test.

I really hate those who design leg9.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 25, 2011, 10:33:39 PM
Here is his tally, taken from a cap at the border crossing. I can't make any sense of it. ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Coutzy on April 25, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
one thing i'm confused is,

if Jet got the wrong number, why didn't he just think for a while and try to figure out the right answer before redo the whole task?

Probably, he thought it was the rule, you have to redo it.

If the rule is that strict, odometer should play its role. Because if one is not allowed to figure out the right number after the task, then he shouldn't be allowed to confirm the answer before the task as well.

Let's suppose, Jet got the wrong number, then he figured for a while , he did some substraction and addition. Then he got the right number, do you think he still need to go back and redo the task?  Or, if Jet finds someone to ask for the right number, would he have to redo the task?
The rule is really there to trick people. Jet thought at least one other team would get the wrong answer.

The situation is really like a maths test, while everyone else is checking and confirming their answers before they submit the test paper and one student doesn't check and he gets the wrong answer and he has to redo the test.

I really hate those who design leg9.

Going by Phil's description of the task, racers did have to go back and redo the task if they got it wrong, but this is not a new rule. I distinctly remember Don saying of the counting Detour in THAT Sweden leg of TAR 6. "What if I just keep saying numbers and get the right one?"

Turns out that didn't work for him.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: GeKKou on April 25, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
In the interview, Jet said, he just kept substracting the kms he went lost.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: thespicdatum on April 26, 2011, 04:23:12 AM
Helping each other at different points in the Race is so common.  Teams have helped each other nearly every single season at one point or another, so why is everyone so shocked and appauled and calling foul??

Had Jet not got cocky and sped off leaving Gary behind in the RB, he would have got help too and not had to repeat the task.  The Trotters would probably be gone right now, not the Cowboys.  That was Jet's fault, not anyone else's. JMO

The U-Turns are put there for teams to U-Turn other teams.  It's the nature of the game.  Would the Trotters have made the PS without U-Turning the Boys? Probably.  But Jet and Cord were so close behind them that they couldn't take the risk... Things can change on the way to the PS and they wanted to make sure they had plenty of time. Can't blame the Trotters for covering their own butts.

Now it's time for the Cowboy fans to pick themselves by the boot straps and pick another team to get behind and root for!  Go Gallory! Go Zev & Justin!




I disagree to some extent.

If Jet stayed with Gary, two things may have happened:

1. Other teams would help Gary and then Gary would give the answer to Jet.

and the most likely is

2. The other teams, as much as they would like to help Gary, won't do a thing since Gary is with Jet. They would return to the starting point together.


If you watch most of the episodes and the first few minutes of this episode. One thing is common. The other teams respect and marvel at how the Cowboys can do tasks quickly and they are wary of the two.

The only reason the Uturn was not used for the cowboys by the first four teams is because they knew thay are far behind in the detour that it is not needed.

in short, the cowboys have bull's eyes on their backs all along.  Bull's eyes on Cowboys backs. There's a nice ring to it
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 26, 2011, 05:31:41 AM
Slowhatch............

Here is his tally, taken from a cap at the border crossing. I can't make any sense of it. ???

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25164.0;attach=171692;image)

The computation on the left is extra distance Jet had traveled when he meet Gary (6.81 km ?). The computation on the right was at the end. It has Jet's odometer reading on top ( 28.xx km) and the first computation. What Jet did, was to add, instead of subtracting. If he would have subtracted the final computation, he would have had 22 km, instead of 35 km.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kevin2012 on April 26, 2011, 05:50:20 AM
Slowhatch............

Here is his tally, taken from a cap at the border crossing. I can't make any sense of it. ???

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25164.0;attach=171692;image)

The computation on the left is extra distance Jet had traveled when he meet Gary (6.81 km ?). The computation on the right was at the end. It has Jet's odometer reading on top ( 28.xx km) and the first computation. What Jet did, was to add, instead of subtracting. If he would have subtracted the final computation, he would have had 22 km, instead of 35 km.

So you're telling me their eliminations was because of a simple math mistake? OMG, as much as I love the cowboys, this is just not acceptable
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 26, 2011, 07:18:56 AM
Helping each other at different points in the Race is so common.  Teams have helped each other nearly every single season at one point or another, so why is everyone so shocked and appauled and calling foul??

Had Jet not got cocky and sped off leaving Gary behind in the RB, he would have got help too and not had to repeat the task.  The Trotters would probably be gone right now, not the Cowboys.  That was Jet's fault, not anyone else's. JMO

The U-Turns are put there for teams to U-Turn other teams.  It's the nature of the game.  Would the Trotters have made the PS without U-Turning the Boys? Probably.  But Jet and Cord were so close behind them that they couldn't take the risk... Things can change on the way to the PS and they wanted to make sure they had plenty of time. Can't blame the Trotters for covering their own butts.

Now it's time for the Cowboy fans to pick themselves by the boot straps and pick another team to get behind and root for!  Go Gallory! Go Zev & Justin!




I disagree to some extent.

If Jet stayed with Gary, two things may have happened:

1. Other teams would help Gary and then Gary would give the answer to Jet.

and the most likely is

2. The other teams, as much as they would like to help Gary, won't do a thing since Gary is with Jet. They would return to the starting point together.


If you watch most of the episodes and the first few minutes of this episode. One thing is common. The other teams respect and marvel at how the Cowboys can do tasks quickly and they are wary of the two.

The only reason the Uturn was not used for the cowboys by the first four teams is because they knew thay are far behind in the detour that it is not needed.

in short, the cowboys have bull's eyes on their backs all along.  Bull's eyes on Cowboys backs. There's a nice ring to it

The general consensus is; Gary already knew the right number and Herb just confirmed it.  Gary probably would have shared the number with Jet.  The other teams didn't use the U-Turn because they knew multiple teams were behind them.  The Trotters used it because they knew the Cowboys had the ability to beat them, they were too close for comfort.  The Cowboys were good and yes everyone was aware of it but I don't think anyone, maybe with the exception of KENT and Vxysin, had it out for them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 26, 2011, 07:29:09 AM
The general consensus is; Gary already knew the right number and Herb just confirmed it.  Gary probably would have shared the number with Jet.  The other teams didn't use the U-Turn because they knew multiple teams were behind them.  The Trotters used it because they knew the Cowboys had the ability to beat them, they were too close for comfort.  The Cowboys were good and yes everyone was aware of it but I don't think anyone, maybe with the exception of KENT and Vxysin, had it out for them.

Jet and Cord arrived in Zermatt ONE HOUR behind G/M, K/V, FT/BE and 1.5 Hours behind Z/J, K/J. It appears it took about one hour to do either detour. Give FT/BE an extra 15 minutes to retrieve the lost receipts.......that means they were ahead 30-45 minutes when they U-Turned Jet and Cord........they were in no way in jepardy of being caught.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 26, 2011, 07:47:59 AM
The general consensus is; Gary already knew the right number and Herb just confirmed it.  Gary probably would have shared the number with Jet.  The other teams didn't use the U-Turn because they knew multiple teams were behind them.  The Trotters used it because they knew the Cowboys had the ability to beat them, they were too close for comfort.  The Cowboys were good and yes everyone was aware of it but I don't think anyone, maybe with the exception of KENT and Vxysin, had it out for them.

Jet and Cord arrived in Zermatt ONE HOUR behind G/M, K/V, FT/BE and 1.5 Hours behind Z/J, K/J. It appears it took about one hour to do either detour. Give FT/BE an extra 15 minutes to retrieve the lost receipts.......that means they were ahead 30-45 minutes when they U-Turned Jet and Cord........they were in no way in jepardy of being caught.

I don't think the Trotters used the U-Turn to turn a knife in the boys back (just to be mean), they used it to ensure there would be absolutely no way the boys could beat them.  It doesn't matter if they had 30 or 45 minutes on the Boys, they are a good team, everyone knew it and it was simply as insurance.  I mean, what if they got lost, the Taxi lost power or got a flat tire... That 30-45 minute lead could have easily been lost. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2011, 09:41:32 AM
Finale questions and discussions go HERE:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24308.msg583098.html#msg583098
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: gator27 on April 26, 2011, 11:10:17 AM
The general consensus is; Gary already knew the right number and Herb just confirmed it.  Gary probably would have shared the number with Jet.  The other teams didn't use the U-Turn because they knew multiple teams were behind them.  The Trotters used it because they knew the Cowboys had the ability to beat them, they were too close for comfort.  The Cowboys were good and yes everyone was aware of it but I don't think anyone, maybe with the exception of KENT and Vxysin, had it out for them.

Jet and Cord arrived in Zermatt ONE HOUR behind G/M, K/V, FT/BE and 1.5 Hours behind Z/J, K/J. It appears it took about one hour to do either detour. Give FT/BE an extra 15 minutes to retrieve the lost receipts.......that means they were ahead 30-45 minutes when they U-Turned Jet and Cord........they were in no way in jepardy of being caught.

I don't think the Trotters used the U-Turn to turn a knife in the boys back (just to be mean), they used it to ensure there would be absolutely no way the boys could beat them.  It doesn't matter if they had 30 or 45 minutes on the Boys, they are a good team, everyone knew it and it was simply as insurance.  I mean, what if they got lost, the Taxi lost power or got a flat tire... That 30-45 minute lead could have easily been lost. Just sayin'.
And when the Trotters got to the W-Turn box, they do not know what the next clue says.  For all they knew, they had another task before heading to the PitStop.  Strategically U-Turning the Cowboys was the right thing to do.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Polaroid on April 26, 2011, 04:52:43 PM
Slowhatch............

Here is his tally, taken from a cap at the border crossing. I can't make any sense of it. ???

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25164.0;attach=171692;image)

The computation on the left is extra distance Jet had traveled when he meet Gary (6.81 km ?). The computation on the right was at the end. It has Jet's odometer reading on top ( 28.xx km) and the first computation. What Jet did, was to add, instead of subtracting. If he would have subtracted the final computation, he would have had 22 km, instead of 35 km.

I don't see how he would have gotten the correct answer even if subtracted at the end. Assuming that the extra distance Jet traveled is 6.81 km, to get to his answer 35 km, he would have an odometer reading of 28.19 km. If he subtracted, he still wouldn't have gotten 22 km, even if he rounded... Unless he doesn't know how to round.  :duno:

It's hard to make out what he wrote. When Gary met up with Jet, Gary said he had 10.75 km while Jet had 17.5 km... That would've given him 6.75 km... except I don't think I see it on the piece of paper.  :nut:

Assuming that racers rounded their answers, he would have needed a number somewhere between 28.25 km to 29.24 km to be able to subtract 6.75 km to get the answer.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 26, 2011, 05:11:22 PM
Slowhatch............

Here is his tally, taken from a cap at the border crossing. I can't make any sense of it. ???

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25164.0;attach=171692;image)

The computation on the left is extra distance Jet had traveled when he meet Gary (6.81 km ?). The computation on the right was at the end. It has Jet's odometer reading on top ( 28.xx km) and the first computation. What Jet did, was to add, instead of subtracting. If he would have subtracted the final computation, he would have had 22 km, instead of 35 km.

I don't see how he would have gotten the correct answer even if subtracted at the end. Assuming that the extra distance Jet traveled is 6.81 km, to get to his answer 35 km, he would have an odometer reading of 28.19 km. If he subtracted, he still wouldn't have gotten 22 km, even if he rounded... Unless he doesn't know how to round.  :duno:

It's hard to make out what he wrote. When Gary met up with Jet, Gary said he had 10.75 km while Jet had 17.5 km... That would've given him 6.75 km... except I don't think I see it on the piece of paper.  :nut:

Assuming that racers rounded their answers, he would have needed a number somewhere between 28.25 km to 29.24 km to be able to subtract 6.75 km to get the answer.

Jet said in an interview that, after getting the number from Gary, he made a few more wrong turns. He did his best to guess the distance he'd gone in the wrong direction and subtract that from his odometer reading, but since he didn't know the exact distance his final answer was still pretty far off.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Polaroid on April 26, 2011, 05:15:28 PM
Slowhatch............

Here is his tally, taken from a cap at the border crossing. I can't make any sense of it. ???

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25164.0;attach=171692;image)

The computation on the left is extra distance Jet had traveled when he meet Gary (6.81 km ?). The computation on the right was at the end. It has Jet's odometer reading on top ( 28.xx km) and the first computation. What Jet did, was to add, instead of subtracting. If he would have subtracted the final computation, he would have had 22 km, instead of 35 km.

I don't see how he would have gotten the correct answer even if subtracted at the end. Assuming that the extra distance Jet traveled is 6.81 km, to get to his answer 35 km, he would have an odometer reading of 28.19 km. If he subtracted, he still wouldn't have gotten 22 km, even if he rounded... Unless he doesn't know how to round.  :duno:

It's hard to make out what he wrote. When Gary met up with Jet, Gary said he had 10.75 km while Jet had 17.5 km... That would've given him 6.75 km... except I don't think I see it on the piece of paper.  :nut:

Assuming that racers rounded their answers, he would have needed a number somewhere between 28.25 km to 29.24 km to be able to subtract 6.75 km to get the answer.

Jet said in an interview that, after getting the number from Gary, he made a few more wrong turns. He did his best to guess the distance he'd gone in the wrong direction and subtract that from his odometer reading, but since he didn't know the exact distance his final answer was still pretty far off.

That makes much more sense. I don't think he would've gotten the answer even if he did his math correctly.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: chill_sd on April 26, 2011, 05:41:32 PM
The numbers on that paper look like this to me:

Left side: 17.37-10.76=6.61

Right side: 28.52+6.61=35.13

If he subtracted the 6.61 he would have gotten 28.52-6.61=21.91

So if that paper is Jet's calculation, maybe he did add instead of subtract.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 26, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
It looks like production is 0-for-2 in the castles category. :js:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: lovetherace on April 27, 2011, 07:37:39 AM
Has anybody linked to this interview from Reality TV World?  Don't recall seeing it, though it could be back upthread.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-jet-mccoy-and-cord-mccoy-talk-about-the-amazing-race-12226.php

Jet and Cord really seem to think they were just minutes behind the GTs before the U-turn, and I wonder...I suppose based on the trains, there is info about when they were most likely to have arrived in town for the Detour, and so how far behind they were.  Initially, I thought they were totally out of it, mostly finishing alone, but I wasn't paying close attention.

On rewatching, I was surprised to see they actually ran into other teams while delivering the luggage (at least Gary/Mallory, plus someone else, or G/M twice).  The article says J/C saw 4 or 6 backpacks (so 2 or 3 teams) when they arrived at the luggage detour, which also surprised me.  The other teams were walking through the detour, but every time we saw J/C, they were running.  As per Jen and Kisha, some of the hotels were further away and took longer; also, weren't there maps available showing where the hotels were?  Gary interviews in the taxi that the GTs and J/C were battling it out...

So if J/C picked closer hotels, going fast, and given the GTs had to redo two more suitcases, plus got lost looking for the U-Turn location - I wonder if they really were closer to the GTs finishing time for the luggage task than the 15-30 minutes that's been speculated.

I was also surprised to hear Jet say when he got to Marco at the RB, he knew there were at least three teams behind him.  I wondered why he didn't look all that upset when he knew he had to redo it.     

In any case, this article, and the other interviews on that site, give some additional interesting info.  For example, it explains more why in the other episode J/C made the choice to take the later flight with fewer connections.  Also, Christina and Ron said in their interview that they didn't complain when they got to the mat about the GTs taking their Amazing Purse, they were friendly with the GTs and were going to just talk to them after.  She says they were told by production there was going to be a penalty and were asked to go back to the mat to talk about the experience.  Finally, it seems the reason teams were so pissed about Kent & Vyksin only getting a 30 minute penalty over the mandatory flight issue was because if you missed the first mandatory flight, you were supposed to wait for the same flight 24 hours later.  Apparently, there was an earlier flight than the mandatory flight, and if the other teams knew the penalty was only 30 minutes, they would have taken that...

   

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: apskip on April 27, 2011, 07:54:39 AM
lovetherace,

There were numerous flight connections to get from Tokyo-Narita to Chengdu both before and after the "mandatory" flight. As you would know if you carefully read earlier threads on this, there was no reason to put all teams on that flight other than: 

Knowledge by World Race Productions that all teams plus their camera and sound guys could fit into that flight combination or
WRP not wanting any teams to arrive in Jiangji before 5am

So, there was no reason for the penalty assessed on Kent/Vyxsin to be more than the 30 minutes. I have made a case for there being no penalty other than the later arrival time they had into Jiangji. The other racers like Luke, Margie, Cara and Jaime who argued for a 24 hour penalty were ignorant of flight alternatives and had a vested interest in a bigger penalty.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: lovetherace on April 27, 2011, 08:00:27 AM
Really no reason to be unpleasant, I was only noting some information said by racers in a source of interviews I didn't recall seeing mentioned much.

What was interesting to me particularly was seeing how things are shaded by editing, something I hadn't fully appreciated before.  I'm sure those of you with long experience here are fully aware of this, but it was a lesson for me.

With respect to the specific question, I did also feel that given the delay of the later flight, a 30 minute penalty was reasonable for K/V, and I didn't understand why it was an issue with the other racers.  According to the interviews, it seemed that the issue was more one of how the instructions were worded, with racers feeling more that they had been deceived by TPTB, rather than a particular grudge against K/V.  I wasn't presenting an argument, just pointing out some information.

Perhaps I will just go back to lurking...



 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dragonite02 on April 27, 2011, 08:02:31 AM
has anybody seen this already?
silly me. I mean does this mean something?
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z61/Dragonite02/kj.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2011, 08:08:57 AM
We can't see it as you are linking to a password protected PB. If there is something to share, try uploading it on [banned image hosting site]s and then use the [IMG] format from [banned image hosting site]s to share here.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 27, 2011, 08:14:29 AM
has anybody seen this already?
(http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/z61/Dragonite02/?action-view&current=kj.jpg)


The picture isn't there... I tried 'show picture' and got nothing.  can you describe it? Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 27, 2011, 08:20:18 AM
Really no reason to be unpleasant, I was only noting some information said by racers in a source of interviews I didn't recall seeing mentioned much.

What was interesting to me particularly was seeing how things are shaded by editing, something I hadn't fully appreciated before.  I'm sure those of you with long experience here are fully aware of this, but it was a lesson for me.

With respect to the specific question, I did also feel that given the delay of the later flight, a 30 minute penalty was reasonable for K/V, and I didn't understand why it was an issue with the other racers.  According to the interviews, it seemed that the issue was more one of how the instructions were worded, with racers feeling more that they had been deceived by TPTB, rather than a particular grudge against K/V.  I wasn't presenting an argument, just pointing out some information.

Perhaps I will just go back to lurking...

Thanks for sharing the interview, lovetherace and welcome to RFF! Don't go back to lurking, it's great for people to share. Don't let certain posters scare you off. You have to have a thick skin on here sometimes. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2011, 08:42:17 AM
:bigwelcome lovetherace!! With a name like that you are definitely in the right place!!

Thanks for pulling together all the interview info. I also feel that until the U-Turn, the time difference may not have been overwhelming apart. The Trotters seemed to have quite a bit of trouble on the luggage task.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 27, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
Really no reason to be unpleasant, I was only noting some information said by racers in a source of interviews I didn't recall seeing mentioned much.

What was interesting to me particularly was seeing how things are shaded by editing, something I hadn't fully appreciated before.  I'm sure those of you with long experience here are fully aware of this, but it was a lesson for me.

With respect to the specific question, I did also feel that given the delay of the later flight, a 30 minute penalty was reasonable for K/V, and I didn't understand why it was an issue with the other racers.  According to the interviews, it seemed that the issue was more one of how the instructions were worded, with racers feeling more that they had been deceived by TPTB, rather than a particular grudge against K/V.  I wasn't presenting an argument, just pointing out some information.

Perhaps I will just go back to lurking...

Thanks for sharing the interview, lovetherace and welcome to RFF! Don't go back to lurking, it's great for people to share. Don't let certain posters scare you off. You have to have a thick skin on here sometimes. :lol:

^^Yeah, what Prophet said ^^ There are a couple in particular that like to challenge people and I have learned I have to sit on my hands and bite my lip until the urge to kill goes away. LMAO

On another note... I saw an interview with Gary & Mallory on CBS.  They were on the train to Zermat.  They said that Kisha and Jen were telling people to U-Turn the Goths.  I was surprised that after all that, they didn't U-Turn them themselves!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TexasLady on April 27, 2011, 09:00:32 AM
lovetherace,

There were numerous flight connections to get from Tokyo-Narita to Chengdu both before and after the "mandatory" flight. As you would know if you carefully read earlier threads on this, there was no reason to put all teams on that flight other than:  

Apskip, please remember that not everyone pays as much attention to details as you do.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: TexasLady on April 27, 2011, 09:05:59 AM
Really no reason to be unpleasant, I was only noting some information said by racers in a source of interviews I didn't recall seeing mentioned much.

What was interesting to me particularly was seeing how things are shaded by editing, something I hadn't fully appreciated before.  I'm sure those of you with long experience here are fully aware of this, but it was a lesson for me.

With respect to the specific question, I did also feel that given the delay of the later flight, a 30 minute penalty was reasonable for K/V, and I didn't understand why it was an issue with the other racers.  According to the interviews, it seemed that the issue was more one of how the instructions were worded, with racers feeling more that they had been deceived by TPTB, rather than a particular grudge against K/V.  I wasn't presenting an argument, just pointing out some information.

Perhaps I will just go back to lurking...


No need to lurk! I too wonder about how things are changed, perspective wise, with the editing.

Welcome to RFF, we're happy that you've joined in the discussions!   :tup:

 :bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: lovetherace on April 27, 2011, 09:14:59 AM
Thanks for the welcome, and the perspective!  I stand in awe of all of you.

Actually, according to the interviews, the racers kind of agreed with apskip - there were other, and earlier, flights, and if they'd known the penalty was only 30 minutes for not taking the mandatory flight, they might all have taken an earlier flight; depending on how fast they got to the airport, they probably sat there for hours until the mandatory flight left.  Sounds like they were led to believe the penalty for not taking that flight would be much worse.

And that's probably enough about that...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 27, 2011, 09:40:33 AM
Welcome lovetherace...........

Production has found, that for some countries, that it is easier to enter and exit at the same place. What with all the equipemnt they carry around. China now have made that list and that could explain why teams along with their cameramen/soundmen were required to take the flight they did. There is nothing concete on this again, just some thoughts.

There were some fights with tight connections, that some teams might have actually reached Lijiang in the late afternoon, early eveing.......but I still think the choke point would have been that charter bus they all were supposed to catch the next morning...so if any teams had arrived that early......they would probably had to just wait till the morning anyway.

But I agree with you, the other teams sure did seem to have a burr under their saddles about how that all transpired.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Shelact on April 27, 2011, 01:03:30 PM
I'm going to put my two cents in on this since no one, I believe, mentioned my thoughts on the 30 minute penalty the Goths received for not taking the mandatory flight.

I think the penalty is in line with teams who received penalites over the seasons for taking a cab instead of walking or any other clue where they tell you to travel by a specific mode of transportation including your feet and you do something else.   It would have been more controversial, and out of line with past practice,  if the penalty would have been more than 30 minutes in my opinion . 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2011, 01:52:39 PM
I totally agree Shelact, that is the standard transportation penalty!

And :welcome: to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: connayyy on April 27, 2011, 03:55:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/SuYLe.jpg)

Maybe Jet did add instead of subtract? That's what it looks like here.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 27, 2011, 08:02:30 PM
A couple of oddities:
  • The Balzers Post Office/Route 12 stop is at 20 Rietstrasse (http://map.search.ch/balzers?x=75m&y=-199m&z=2048&poi=verkehr,gebaeude,anzeigen), nearly at the foot of Gutenberg. After Jet heads back from the finish line, we see him approach the bus stop from the west (at nearly the same spot of the Justin/Jen map handover).
  • The distance from the bus stop back to the main route is over 400 yards. It's very unlikely that FT saw other racers and decided to turn. And he didn't follow the map; Jen can be seen (but not heard) giving him directions to the finish line. So either he made another wrong turn and got extremely lucky, or there's something else going on that wasn't broadcast.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Great shot connayyy!  That would be awful to think that could have been it....ouch.

Slowhatch...so FT couldn't see the racers from the route he was supposed to be on? hmmm.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Phat139 on April 28, 2011, 01:00:21 AM
Anyone know how to watch the newest interviews on CBS? I can't watch it... :( I want to hear Jet & Cord said about their farewell...  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dragonite02 on April 28, 2011, 01:24:49 AM
has anybody seen this already?
silly me. I mean does this mean something?
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z61/Dragonite02/kj.jpg)


i fixed it. where or when was this clip taken? insights?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 28, 2011, 07:48:35 AM
has anybody seen this already?
silly me. I mean does this mean something?
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z61/Dragonite02/kj.jpg)


i fixed it. where or when was this clip taken? insights?

PI at the PS?  But, I was looking at other PI's on CBS and none of them were here... Hummmm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 28, 2011, 07:54:07 AM
Dragonite, what video did you cap this out of?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2011, 09:07:40 AM
oooh boy I think you have something here.

Where is this clip from? Ep 9? about what time? I will look for some other caps around it.

I don't remember them with those clothes on. Anyone??

Foliage makes me think RIO.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kiki on April 28, 2011, 09:12:17 AM
^I just checked all the insider video and it's definitely not from any pit stop so far.
But I can't find from what episode is this cap so that we listen at what they are saying. Like Peach said the plants behind them do look  tropical and they are wearing lighter clothes.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on April 28, 2011, 09:13:31 AM
I have never seen those clothes before. We need to know where he found this.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2011, 09:17:14 AM
I've asked, so don't everybody else please. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 28, 2011, 09:32:25 AM
Foliage makes me think RIO.

Certainly is possible for Rio.......or Florida Keys. I would think any confessionals in Florida would occur in daylight. So I think Rio or Niteroi. Dec 11 is just ten days before the Rio Summer Solstice. They look a little overdressed, but part of Rio, Rio Sul, get a good breeze off the ocean and they could be dressing for that.

Rio Sul is the general name for the beach neighborhoods of Copacabana, Ipanema, Leblon, Sao Conrado (site of TAR2 Detours) and Barra de Tijuica. The greatest concentrations/numbers of tourist hotels are in Copacabana.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Phat139 on April 28, 2011, 09:59:04 AM
has anybody seen this already?
silly me. I mean does this mean something?
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z61/Dragonite02/kj.jpg)


i fixed it. where or when was this clip taken? insights?
I think this is from the China-India episode 6 maybe... just check the background from here (Jet & Cord), they looked almost the same, but it's morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqI1F383MSE

Or the background from Ron & Christina, Zev & Justin (also episode 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odvE-yP38JI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Q-m6vzeLA

Plus, check out this scene, from episode 6, when Kisha & Jen were going to India...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS2VTc3o1ag
Kisha was wearing the same outfit, and tied her hair back like in the picture too, but what about Jen? I wondered...

Hope this helped!  :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2011, 10:32:08 AM
Thanks Phat!!

Who's rewatchimg ep 6?? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: kiki on April 28, 2011, 10:50:29 AM

Who's rewatchimg ep 6?? :lol:

I just did. Those are the clothes that they were wearing in ep 6 (Kolkata) but I couldn't find that cap, it's not in that episode. Maybe it's in ep 7.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on April 28, 2011, 11:00:11 AM
Yep.....they were wearing those same clothes at the tea tasting RB in Kolkata.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on April 28, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
Thanks Phat!!

Who's rewatchimg ep 6?? :lol:

Not Me!  Episode 6 was hard to watch the first time little lone watching it again... I felt so bad for poor Luke.  :'(

I will let you guys do it and post the answer... LOL   :angel:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Dragonite02 on April 28, 2011, 09:52:42 PM
I got that from episode 9, when they were riding the train and kisha was trying to put her leg on big easy i think.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2011, 10:02:39 PM
Thanks!! We'll take another look!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Phat139 on April 28, 2011, 11:38:55 PM
I got that from episode 9, when they were riding the train and kisha was trying to put her leg on big easy i think.
Oh yes, you're right, silly me for the wrong guess :P. Everybody just go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QbgvppNHXY
Around 5:00, it's the interview.... BUT I think the intrerview took place on episode 6 (the outfit & background), not episode 9...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Prophet on May 09, 2011, 12:49:05 PM

The general consensus is; Gary already knew the right number and Herb just confirmed it.  Gary probably would have shared the number with Jet.  The other teams didn't use the U-Turn because they knew multiple teams were behind them.  The Trotters used it because they knew the Cowboys had the ability to beat them, they were too close for comfort.  The Cowboys were good and yes everyone was aware of it but I don't think anyone, maybe with the exception of KENT and Vxysin, had it out for them.

Gary did make a comment about this issue on his twitter:

(http://i.imm.io/5xaE.png)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Ep 9 "We're Good American People" (Switzerland)
Post by: Lucybell on May 09, 2011, 03:50:10 PM

The general consensus is; Gary already knew the right number and Herb just confirmed it.  Gary probably would have shared the number with Jet.  The other teams didn't use the U-Turn because they knew multiple teams were behind them.  The Trotters used it because they knew the Cowboys had the ability to beat them, they were too close for comfort.  The Cowboys were good and yes everyone was aware of it but I don't think anyone, maybe with the exception of KENT and Vxysin, had it out for them.
Gary did make a comment about this issue on his twitter:
(http://i.imm.io/5xaE.png)

Thanks Prophet!  :hearts: Nice knowing I was right. Hee Hee