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Title: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 09:41:14 AM
Let's use this thread to keep all speculation and discussion (except ANY live spoilers) in one place.

 :hfive:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 09:45:37 AM
Let's use this thread to keep all speculation and discussion (except ANY live spoilers) in one place.

 :hfive:

Only about the finale?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 09:59:08 AM
Yes. Only the Finale in this thread. We have other spec threads for the rest. :res:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Belle Book on December 17, 2010, 10:06:59 AM
Adding in some more info about our Finale Leg.

Thanks to the great work of florida, teams were spotted in Miami!

 TAR 18 teams arrived in MIA from Sao Paulo 12-13-10 on flight AA930 at 9:36 AM  (Landed 121 min late)  

9 of the 11 teams were seen briefly at the airport.
 
Production was present.
 
Clues appeared to be handed to teams who then dispersed within the airport area. (decoy run?)

All teams were eventually seen heading to the taxis....

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/cameraguysonthemovemarked-Copy.jpg)1 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Cluegivermarked-Copy.jpg)2 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Jaimeexitingmarked-Copy.jpg)3 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/KyntandVyxsinheadingthruthedoormarked-Copy.jpg)4 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Vyxsinonthemove3marked-Copy.jpg)5 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/amandamarked-Copy.jpg)6 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Krismarked.jpg)7 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/K-JandFT-BE2marked-Copy.jpg)8 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Jenattaximarked-Copy.jpg)9 (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/RonandChristinemarked-Copy.jpg)10(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Jet2marked-Copy.jpg)11

1-cameraguy
2-Clue giver
3-Jaime with decoy clue
4-Kynt and Vyxsin running
5-Vyxsin (cool double exposure :lol:)
6-Amanda
7-Kris
8-Kisha and Jen, and FT/BE waiting for a taxi
9-Jen entering taxi
10-Ron and Christina
11-Jet


Does that mean Ron & Christina were also decoys?  Darn!

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 17, 2010, 10:13:58 AM
Sounds as if the teams might have been directed to use some sort of speedy water craft from the Marine Stadium area to the Keys. If Peach is saying "no cars" I suspect both self-driving and taxis were being ruled out.

This would make sense to anyone that's familiar with the area because when you get past Homestead and Florida City to get onto Key Largo at the northern end of the Keys, there is only one road - U.S. 1 and it's the only road connecting all of the Keys down to Key West. Traffic has been an issue for years' the best way to avoid the traffic mess is by air oe by boat.

So-called "cigarette" speed boats used to race at the Marine Stadium (if you ever seen Miami Vice then you've seen the fast boats I'm speaking of) so I could see having the final three teams taking those to get down to the Keys.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 10:18:55 AM
No cars only means they did not self drive. They used taxis.

And no Belle...there are 9 teams seen in the airport, so no one is ruled out except our known eliminated teams.

Just not everyone got a photo.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: weihen on December 17, 2010, 10:29:06 AM
Which 2teams not seen ?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 10:30:16 AM
Good question.  :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: TSPKM on December 17, 2010, 10:46:19 AM
There are pictures of

1. Jaime/Cara
2. Amanda/Kris
3. Kynt/Vyxsin
4. Globtrotters
5. Kisha/Jen
6. Ron/Chris

No pictures of: Mel/Mike, Gary/Mallory, Cowboys, Margie/Luke and Zev/Justin.

I'm assuming that Mel/Mike were one of the 9 teams because we know of their elimination.

So 2 of Gallory, Cowobys, Margie/Luke and Zev/Justin were not seen....if I were a betting man I would probably say Gallory and Cowboys were the 2 teams racing to the finish line, with what looks like either Kynt/Vyxsin or Globtrotters.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 10:58:47 AM
My mistake. I missed one. :groan:

There is a photo of Jet, post corrected.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 01:25:01 PM
So our speculated final three is this:
Gary and Mallory
Zev and Justin
Margie and Luke
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 01:37:18 PM
So here is the broad outline of what we know now:

 The first stop after the Miami airport was the marine stadium marina location, there only about 15-20minutes.

 SPEC is that this was a route info clue only.

They then continued south to Key Largo, which was the site of the next task: a RoadBlock.

Following that, they proceded south through the Keys to Big Pine Key for the next task.

walkingpneumonia's blog find re the Seven Mile Bridge closure would then follow nicely from there.

From Virginia Key teams could go back to the mainland and get on US1 which would take them thru Coral Gables and Homestead and down to Key Largo. Not sure if a taxi would take them all the way there though. We know taxis take them to the Marina but I would guess that they leave them there.
Otherwise there is the option of boats like schnauzers said or planes/helicopters. Right near the Marina there is a place called Miami Seaplanes.

FYI the 7 mile bridge takes you from Marathon to Big Pine Key as you are headed south. And there is nothing much on Big Pine, this description is rather humorous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Pine_Key#Shopping.2C_Dining_and_Commerce
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DavidJunior on December 17, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
I believe this is more likely:

The 5 elimination station teams

Plus the final 3 and the 4th place finishers on this flight

other two decoys came in either earlier (i.e. the night before) or later (possible as long as they made it to the mat before the finalists)

that could be why we have:
Amanda and Kris
maybe Mel and Mike (not photo'd)
Jaime and Cara

and it looks like we're missing:
Gary and Mallory and Margie and Luke

which would mean:
Kisha/Jen (F4? - seen in Switzerland)
Jet/Cord (F4 or 7th - seen in India)
FT/BE (F4? - seen in Rio)
Ron/Christina (7th or F4 - seen in India?)
Zev/Justin (likely 8th - not seen after China) (not pictured- but speculated to be there)
Kynt/Vyxsin (7th or F4 - seen in India?)
are all either F4 or the 7th and 8th place finishers
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: florida on December 17, 2010, 02:28:03 PM
So here is the broad outline of what we know now:

 The first stop after the Miami airport was the marine stadium marina location, there only about 15-20minutes.

 SPEC is that this was a route info clue only.

They then continued south to Key Largo, which was the site of the next task: a RoadBlock.

Following that, they proceded south through the Keys to Big Pine Key for the next task.

walkingpneumonia's blog find re the Seven Mile Bridge closure would then follow nicely from there.

From Virginia Key teams could go back to the mainland and get on US1 which would take them thru Coral Gables and Homestead and down to Key Largo. Not sure if a taxi would take them all the way there though. We know taxis take them to the Marina but I would guess that they leave them there.
Otherwise there is the option of boats like schnauzers said or planes/helicopters. Right near the Marina there is a place called Miami Seaplanes.

FYI the 7 mile bridge takes you from Marathon to Big Pine Key as you are headed south. And there is nothing much on Big Pine, this description is rather humorous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Pine_Key#Shopping.2C_Dining_and_Commerce

They did use taxis, as about two minutes after I got to the Marina, one left with a production vehicle behind it. I tailed it through the expressways of Miami (I-95 to Dolphin Expressway to Palmetto Expwy to Don Shula Expwy to the Turnpike down to US 1). Using US 1 as a straight-shot down to Key Largo through the South Miami/Kendall/Homestead would bleed way to much time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 02:31:23 PM
They did use taxis, as about two minutes after I got to the Marina, one left with a production vehicle behind it. I tailed it through the expressways of Miami (I-95 to Dolphin Expressway to Palmetto Expwy to Don Shula Expwy to the Turnpike down to US 1). Using US 1 as a straight-shot down to Key Largo through the South Miami/Kendall/Homestead would bleed way to much time.

Thanks for the clarification. I am surprised that they took taxis that far, did you follow them all the way to Big Pine?

Could you see what team was in it?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: florida on December 17, 2010, 02:45:06 PM
They did use taxis, as about two minutes after I got to the Marina, one left with a production vehicle behind it. I tailed it through the expressways of Miami (I-95 to Dolphin Expressway to Palmetto Expwy to Don Shula Expwy to the Turnpike down to US 1). Using US 1 as a straight-shot down to Key Largo through the South Miami/Kendall/Homestead would bleed way to much time.

Thanks for the clarification. I am surprised that they took taxis that far, did you follow them all the way to Big Pine?

Could you see what team was in it?

I am surprised too, but they were going about 70-80mph on the expressways so it should have made up some time. Didn't follow them to Big Pine because I had been up since 10pm the night before and driving since about 1am and I was already a good 5 hours from home.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 17, 2010, 02:48:04 PM
To make sure folks understand this point. Even the Florida Turnpike Extension comes to a terminus on U.S. 1 southbound before reaching Homestead or Florida City. U.S. 1 is the only road south of Homestead and Florida City (still on the mainland) to Key Largo and points south.
I agree that from Virginia Key (and with a little backtracking in downtown Miami) the fastest way to go would be on the expressways.  I-95 comes to a terminus headed southbound just after Brickell Avenue and before reaching Coconut Grove and Coral Gables (as well as "The U," my alma mater Go, Canes!) so the route described earlier involving the Shula, Dolphin and Palmetto expressways to the Turnpike, would be the fastest route outside of rush hours.
During rush hour, it won't really matter the routes will be slow either way.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 04:05:33 PM
The only reason I can imagine, that they would use the east end of 7 mile bridge with cops, is that it is the finish line on Pigeon Key. It is a historical site and it is "rentable." There would be no prying eyes, unless you were on a boat. That part of the bridge is "driveable." Normally it is used only by a fake train (small tractor) and carriage to take people down to look at the restored buildings on Pigeon Key. I would assume the cops were there to let in the taxis, shuttle vans and to keep anyone else out. Why they would go to Big Piine Key, west of Pigeon Key and then go back east.......I have no idea.

Here is a photo of Pigeon Key.........credit to the Pigeon Key Historical Society.
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/drrox1/Aerial.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: florida on December 17, 2010, 04:28:43 PM
We still have at least one more task (most likely some sort of memory task) to fit in somewhere......that could be the reason they went to Big Pine Key.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 04:29:57 PM
GMTA! I just added the same info in the live thread.

I have evidence that Pigeon Key was closed for an "event" on Monday, so expect that this is indeed our location.

Normally, you access the Key on foot or bicycle via the old portion of the seven mile bridge from Knight's key, or by boat from the knight's key Marina.

There used to be a train trolley but am not sure it is still in use.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
There is also an airport on Marathon, where BVM can stage his helicopters.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 17, 2010, 04:55:29 PM
The train line was closed down decades ago before I ever lived in Florida the first time. In the past century, the Keys have been struck time and again by devastating hurricanes (1926, 1947, 1960, 1992 (Andrew) and of course there were IIRC, four major hurricanes that struck the Keys in 2005. The 1960 hurricane (Donna) wiped out the middle keys as had happened in the 1920s and the 1940s. I just can't remember right now when the old bridge was converted to solely vehicular use, but I do remember learning that nugget growing up in Miami.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: florida on December 17, 2010, 05:01:25 PM
The train line was closed down decades ago before I ever lived in Florida the first time. In the past century, the Keys have been struck time and again by devastating hurricanes (1926, 1947, 1960, 1992 (Andrew) and of course there were IIRC, four major hurricanes that struck the Keys in 2005. The 1960 hurricane (Donna) wiped out the middle keys as had happened in the 1920s and the 1940s. I just can't remember right now when the old bridge was converted to solely vehicular use, but I do remember learning that nugget growing up in Miami.

The new bridge was constructed between 1979 and 1982 according to this site (at the bottom of the page)

http://www.keyshistory.org/osh.html

[The bridge has attracted a handful of films for use in movies.]
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 17, 2010, 05:11:56 PM
The old bridge wasn't being used for trains even in 1960, when Hurricane Donna went through.

Just checked Wiki, and the use of the bridge for the overseas train to Key West ended with the 1935 Labor Day Hurricane. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Railroad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Railroad).

The 1935 Hurricane slipped my mind before, but 1926, 1947, 1960, 1992, and 2005 were all years when major hurricanes struck the Keys in addition to the 1935 hurricane.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 05:16:07 PM
The only reason I can imagine, that they would use the east end of 7 mile bridge with cops, is that it is the finish line on Pigeon Key. It is a historical site and it is "rentable." There would be no prying eyes, unless you were on a boat. That part of the bridge is "driveable." Normally it is used only by a fake train (small tractor) and carriage to take people down to look at the restored buildings on Pigeon Key. I would assume the cops were there to let in the taxis, shuttle vans and to keep anyone else out. Why they would go to Big Piine Key, west of Pigeon Key and then go back east.......I have no idea.

Here is a photo of Pigeon Key.........credit to the Pigeon Key Historical Society.


Great thinking!
As for Big Pine I wondered too but I guess they wanted to make it interesting for the teams find the finish line. They would have to come back across the bridge and turn around and go down the old bridge.

Here's where they need to turn around:


View Larger Map
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
theschauzers......

The old seven mile bridge was built by Henry Flagler for his railroad. I think that you will agree, that at some point, it was converted from a railroad bridge to a automobile bridge. The main problem was, that is was extremely narrow and there were lots of deadly car accidents on it. So they got the new seven mile bridge.

I don't know about Peach, but the "fake train" I mentioned in my earlier post is in this picture in the foreground.
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/drrox1/20472916.jpg)

Here is a pic of the entrance to the old seven mile bridge.....notice the "No fishing from Bridge" sign.
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/drrox1/17182431.jpg)

Here is a pic from farther down the old seven mile bridge. Notice the fishing pole on the right. Also notice the Speed Limit sign. In the far distance you can see the trees on Pigeon Key. I can't really see the teams having to walk or run all that way. If you look at the roadway on the bridge, they have taken those concrete stop bars used in most parking lots and used it to divide off the driving lane down the center and the walking paths on the outer sides of the bridge. At some point, they do have to have maintanance vehicles go to Pigeon Key for electical, plumbing, etc. I would suspect that since WRP rented the island, they would be able to use that method to get all their equipement down on Pigeon Key to film the Finish Line.
 (http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l573/drrox1/938372.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: florida on December 17, 2010, 05:39:54 PM
They could have done a TAR 4 and used bikes....make them want, taste and sweat for that million dollars  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 17, 2010, 05:41:26 PM
Dr Rox, if you look at the wiki link in my last post, it explains that the railroad was abandoned in 1935. It was then converted to 2 narrow traffic lanes for vehicles.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 05:48:40 PM
Dr Rox, if you look at the wiki link in my last post, it explains that the railroad was abandoned in 1935. It was then converted to 2 narrow traffic lanes for vehicles.

Yes I knew that from previous knowledge. If you will look at my posts.....I never said they used a train to get to Pigeon Key.


And yes, florida.....I would like to see a bicycle race............but the elminated teams and production and Phil and BVM.....they rode down there in cars or vans........lol.......no one is putting that finishline riser, the stationary cameras and sound gear on bicycles and hauling them over to Pigeon Key.......lol

If there is enough dry dirt on Big Pine Key......I can sure see them doing a TAR9,12,13 or 14 type of memory challenge there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 05:53:54 PM
I am not talking a real train, but the video in the Live thread is awesome for the train, which seems to have ceased running in 1935.

There seems to have been a tourist Trolley train named Harry...up till maybe a few years ago? Can't find any recent stories about it after 2006.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 05:58:30 PM
The standard now for the tourists who don't want to walk is by boat...4 trips a day. I see teams getting there ON the bridge though....for the shots.

There were some mentions of golf carts in the reading, but not available to the general public.

Thanks for the gorgeous pictures DrRox!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 06:01:45 PM
I definitely agree with drrox about how production gets out there. I think the teams could be taxied out there at least part way where they could run the last bit for dramatic effect.

One question I still have is are they keeping those same taxis all day? From Miami airport to Virginia Key to Largo to Big Pine and back to Pigeon? That's a lot of miles and more importantly time. Will we have another TAR7 taxi paying finish?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 06:06:15 PM
I definitely agree with drrox about how production gets out there. I think the teams could be taxied out there at least part way where they could run the last bit for dramatic effect.


The bridge is closed to cars, they def will NOT be taking taxis.

But yes, I am sure there are supply carts of some sort...but I highly doubt we will see them. They will be going for the visuals here...boat or bridge.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 06:11:08 PM
This is funny, on the Google Satellite view of the old bridge you can see your "fake train."
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kinibug on December 17, 2010, 06:16:07 PM
Sorry that this is slightly off topic,but can we be quite confident in saying that Gary/Mallory,Zev/Justin and Margie/Luke were final 3 teams?

If so,I am surprised Zev and Justin got this far but am happy for them.Gary/Mallory are most likely to be the winners then.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 06:18:49 PM
Well there are a couple of ways they can handle the taxis.....

1).....they take taxis from the airport to Virgina Key......pay them and after getting the route info clue....they pic a taxi that Production has hired for the day like the taxis at the Rose Bowl. I didnt see Nat/Kat or Brooke/Claire paying their taxis.

2) they are given a sum of money before leaving Sao Paulo to cover the cost of taxis.

3) some guy from production is waiting on Knight's Key to pay the taxis after the teams head to Pigeon Key.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: florida on December 17, 2010, 06:22:17 PM
Well there are a couple of ways they can handle the taxis.....

1).....they take taxis from the airport to Virgina Key......pay them and after getting the route info clue....they pic a taxi that Production has hired for the day like the taxis at the Rose Bowl. I didnt see Nat/Kat or Brooke/Claire paying their taxis.

2) they are given a sum of money before leaving Sao Paulo to cover the cost of taxis.

3) some guy from production is waiting on Knight's Key to pay the taxis after the teams head to Pigeon Key.

Nothing at all.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 06:26:23 PM
Sorry that this is slightly off topic,but can we be quite confident in saying that Gary/Mallory,Zev/Justin and Margie/Luke were final 3 teams?

If so,I am surprised Zev and Justin got this far but am happy for them.Gary/Mallory are most likely to be the winners then.

The way I see it......we have 6 months to figure out the who......personally, I could care less who the final 3 are at this time........leaves something to look forward too.  But that is just me......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 06:48:36 PM
Sorry that this is slightly off topic,but can we be quite confident in saying that Gary/Mallory,Zev/Justin and Margie/Luke were final 3 teams?

If so,I am surprised Zev and Justin got this far but am happy for them.Gary/Mallory are most likely to be the winners then.

Why would we be "quite confident"? There is NO factual evidence posted about the final three at this time.

The best place to look for who is known to have been seen when/where is here in the Timeline Summary, anything else remains pure speculation.  :reindeer

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.msg570945.html#msg570945
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kinibug on December 17, 2010, 07:07:14 PM
Sorry that this is slightly off topic,but can we be quite confident in saying that Gary/Mallory,Zev/Justin and Margie/Luke were final 3 teams?

If so,I am surprised Zev and Justin got this far but am happy for them.Gary/Mallory are most likely to be the winners then.

Why would we be "quite confident"? There is NO factual evidence posted about the final three at this time.

The best place to look for who is known to have been seen when/where is here in the Timeline Summary, anything else remains pure speculation.  :reindeer

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.msg570945.html#msg570945

Oh ok,sorry.It was just the way you replied to the person asking what teams weren't spotted in the airport...I thought that was a clue meaning that the non-photographed teams were the ones who were racing to the finish line.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 07:18:56 PM
No reason to be sorry!  :cmas17

I'll have to look at that..but no clues intended. The non photographed teams either missed getting their picture made, or weren't there to be photographed...and the numbers tell you the answer to that, right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: weihen on December 17, 2010, 07:26:17 PM
The order of pics is the order they departed airport?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 07:30:56 PM
No order....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DavidJunior on December 18, 2010, 02:55:57 AM
Peach stated that 9 of the 11 teams were on that one flight

Which means 2 teams either came earlier or later

With the way production has made sure of bunching teams together for the final leg, it is highly unlikely that the 2 missing teams are part of the final 3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: weihen on December 18, 2010, 03:14:03 AM
Peach stated that 9 of the 11 teams were on that one flight

Which means 2 teams either came earlier or later

With the way production has made sure of bunching teams together for the final leg, it is highly unlikely that the 2 missing teams are part of the final 3
I think 11 teams on same flight...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on December 18, 2010, 06:37:35 AM
guys, i am back, woohoo

anyway, could it be a new game twist that instead of the final 3 will be racing to the finish line, could we be seeing a final 2, who will be racing to the finish line

and great job to all the detectives
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: AmazingRace on December 18, 2010, 07:21:14 AM
guys, i am back, woohoo

anyway, could it be a new game twist that instead of the final 3 will be racing to the finish line, could we be seeing a final 2, who will be racing to the finish line

and great job to all the detectives

Welcome back! :bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Belle Book on December 18, 2010, 10:38:45 AM
guys, i am back, woohoo

anyway, could it be a new game twist that instead of the final 3 will be racing to the finish line, could we be seeing a final 2, who will be racing to the finish line

and great job to all the detectives

Unlikely, but possible.  Still, I think the two teams who weren't seen probably weren't in the Final 3.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 18, 2010, 12:26:18 PM
I think the original information, that all 11 teams were on the flight, is correct. There's no logical reason for it to be otherwise, given that all the teams needed  to get to Miami, and Peach indicated all 11 teams were in Sao Paulo before they flew into Miami.

I think its quite likely the 2 teams just weren't seen by the on scene TAR detectives. That happened in TARAS, when all 11 teams left the start line, but only a few of the teams were seen there by Chip Arndt who just happened to be taking a flight out of Miami that same morning, and saw several of the teams waiting for their flight out.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 18, 2010, 03:04:49 PM
I corrected that information... let's use the updated info.

Yes, we originally thought all 11 teams were at the airport.

I can only say that on closer review, 9 teams were seen, 2 were not. Were they there and out of customs late? Were they not there? Were they on a different flight altogether?

Your guess is as good as mine...but it does raise some interesting questions!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Shiryu01 on December 18, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
I can only say that on closer review, 9 teams were seen, 2 were not. Were they there and out of customs late? Were they not there? Were they on a different flight altogether?

Which teams are we talking about? If I'm correct we are missing photo evidence of 4 teams (Mel/Mike, Gary/Mallory, Margie/Luke and Zev/Justin).

Now, let's consider the possibilities

All 11 teams were at the airport but only 9 (?) were seen OR Only 9 teams were at the airport at the same time. So the other 2 could have been
- sent out as early decoys (seems unlikely though, since they used more decoys later);
- be eliminated teams put on a different flight for lack of space on the plane (but who were still there at the finish line I suppose);
- be eliminated teams that were unable to fly due to loss of documents (very very unlikely but still possible);
- be racing teams, which, in case of a final three, would give another team a pretty big advantage;
- be the only two racing teams left, making it a final two as someone suggested. I think this is possible, I've only been watching TAR since season 12 but I don't remember a time when all three teams looked like having a chance all the way to the end. There was always one left behind pretty soon and hardly appearing on the screen so they may have decided to make it a final 2 to increase suspence.

Do we know anything about the time when the photos were taken? it looks like night in Jet's photo, and evening in Ron and Chris' photo, but the others are much brighter. Are decoys usually sent out before real racers or at the same time?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 18, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
If it is a final 2 then how did the eliminations go down? I suppose you could just remove the last NEL. But again I am highly doubtful that there is a final 2. I lean towards the idea that they were around and were simply not photoed/seen for whatever reason.

I believe the pics were taken between 930-1030 on the 13th.

Am I correct that Margie and Luke and Gary and Mallory were the 2 unseen teams?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: weihen on December 18, 2010, 07:30:16 PM
I think they made F3 going first,then decoys.Spotters just saw 3rd team in F3 and decoys when other 2 had already taken taxi and left.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: The Queen V on December 18, 2010, 09:09:03 PM
georgiapeach, you mentioned the spotter saw 9 teams but only 7 were present, can you give us a clue on who the other two were?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Zack. on December 19, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
Would the active racers still have  their bags? If so, then we can say K/J, FTBE and I think K/V are in decoy mode. Of those not already eliminated, Jet/Cord and Ron/Chris are with bags, so either they're racing or they're good at decoying.

To the sage RFF Detectives, I think our finalists would be either:
1.Jet/Cord, Ron/Chris, and an unseen team (Goths?) or
2. Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke, Gary/Mallory or
3. A combination of three of those.

Am I on the right track? :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: amazing race fan on December 19, 2010, 07:12:42 PM
Would the active racers still have  their bags? If so, then we can say K/J, FTBE and I think K/V are in decoy mode. Of those not already eliminated, Jet/Cord and Ron/Chris are with bags, so either they're racing or they're good at decoying.

To the sage RFF Detectives, I think our finalists would be either:
1.Jet/Cord, Ron/Chris, and an unseen team (Goths?) or
2. Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke, Gary/Mallory or
3. A combination of three of those.

Am I on the right track? :cmas5

I agree, and I think the 2nd one is more possible
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 19, 2010, 07:22:20 PM
I would dump my bag if I were racing.... :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 19, 2010, 07:31:45 PM
Would the active racers still have  their bags? If so, then we can say K/J, FTBE and I think K/V are in decoy mode. Of those not already eliminated, Jet/Cord and Ron/Chris are with bags, so either they're racing or they're good at decoying.

To the sage RFF Detectives, I think our finalists would be either:
1.Jet/Cord, Ron/Chris, and an unseen team (Goths?) or
2. Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke, Gary/Mallory or
3. A combination of three of those.

Am I on the right track? :cmas5

Amanda and Kris have their bags and we know they were eliminated. I'm not sure that this means anything. Good thought though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 19, 2010, 07:36:40 PM
Why not dump your bag? You know the Airline will hold it if you checked and did not pick it up. You're racing for a million so who cares? Its the last leg and you wont need it.

I think this is a great speculation. I agree with you all above.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 19, 2010, 07:40:24 PM
Anyone see any backpacks with checked baggage tags on them........lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 19, 2010, 07:41:10 PM
Why not dump your bag? You know the Airline will hold it if you checked and did not pick it up. You're racing for a million so who cares? Its the last leg and you wont need it.

I think this is a great speculation. I agree with you all above.
Possibly, but don't forget that the teams only do carryons no checks. What is the policy for carryons found on the plane? Lost and found?

The only team that definitely has no bags is Kisha and Jen. They are also the headscarf team so maybe they are in the final. Who knows?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: The Queen V on December 19, 2010, 08:06:31 PM
i checked the finales of each new season 12 - 17, not all teams did leave their bags

what i saw were that most tar 14 teams left their bags in the airport (i think jaime/cara and tammy/vic left at least a bag)

sam and dan leaving all their bags behind except for passports and a small bag

the rest of the final 3 brought all their belongings with them.

so we can't really say who's who in the final 3 just looking at bags.

also: note that ron and christina and jet and cord did not leave their bags upon arriving at the final city. i doubt theyd dump their bags, given that they are racing in the finals
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: weihen on December 19, 2010, 08:21:07 PM
I thnik if I am production, I will want decoy teams having bags so that they look like racing than without bags...but maybe production don't care about this.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: TSPKM on December 19, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
Well I'm pretty sure Kisha/Jen were eliminated if they were seen inactive (I know this isnt confirmed) so if they didnt have bags then probably production doesnt care... just sayin.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 19, 2010, 08:31:55 PM

Possibly, but don't forget that the teams only do carryons no checks. What is the policy for carryons found on the plane? Lost and found?

The only team that definitely has no bags is Kisha and Jen. They are also the headscarf team so maybe they are in the final. Who knows?

Is there a rule that they can only do carry-ons? If not then why would you on the final leg? I would just check them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Dånooky on December 19, 2010, 09:12:30 PM

Possibly, but don't forget that the teams only do carryons no checks. What is the policy for carryons found on the plane? Lost and found?

The only team that definitely has no bags is Kisha and Jen. They are also the headscarf team so maybe they are in the final. Who knows?

Is there a rule that they can only do carry-ons? If not then why would you on the final leg? I would just check them.
Well, they usually don't check their bags to avoid having to wait at their destination
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 19, 2010, 09:16:21 PM
Yes, that is a great maneuver. But for the last leg? I would say don't bother. Leave it at the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on December 19, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
In this instance, in Miami, the airline does not collect/hold unclaimed checked baggage.......Customs does. Now, if they cleared customs with their baggage and just dumped it on the floor.....probably end up in someone's trunk or in lost and found.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Dånooky on December 19, 2010, 11:06:08 PM
In this instance, in Miami, the airline does not collect/hold unclaimed checked baggage.......Customs does. Now, if they cleared customs with their baggage and just dumped it on the floor.....probably end up in someone's trunk or in lost and found.

isn't that against TSA regulations?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 19, 2010, 11:22:41 PM
There's nothing stopping a team from using baggage lockers if they still have those at airports. (You take a key with you and pay at some point.) I'm pretty sure those would be outside TSA and Customs security areas, because folks might use them to hold their luggage waiting for flights or transportation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Dånooky on December 19, 2010, 11:25:37 PM
I thought you were no longer allowed to leave your luggage unattended at any US airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on December 20, 2010, 12:30:20 AM
I did say "if they still have those at airports."

I wouldn't know; I haven't been in an airport in almost 10 years.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: maf on December 20, 2010, 01:27:15 AM
I would dump my bag if I were racing.... :duno:

I remember from the interview that Jill & Thomas (TAR17) considered doing this but they were unsure if it was allowed. And they could not get a clear answer from their crew on this. So they decided to play it safe and bring their bags, as did the other final teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 20, 2010, 08:53:16 AM
I think the bottom line is that the teams could have chosen to do several different things with their bags. Any of these choices may or may not indicate that they were actively racing.
I think that even among the three racing teams they could have each made a different choice about how to handle the situation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on December 20, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
If I remember right, Chad & Stephanie left their bags with a cab driver and had to go back and get them before checking in.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 20, 2010, 02:11:14 PM
If I remember right, Chad & Stephanie left their bags with a cab driver and had to go back and get them before checking in.

Yes, in the second Russia leg following the gorodki task.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: sofiaj.10 on December 20, 2010, 02:37:07 PM
actually chad and stephanie had to go back to pay the taxi driver, not to get their bags.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 20, 2010, 02:42:20 PM
actually chad and stephanie had to go back to pay the taxi driver, not to get their bags.


I believe they had to pay their driver and get their bags.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Zack. on December 20, 2010, 03:15:24 PM
actually chad and stephanie had to go back to pay the taxi driver, not to get their bags.


I believe they had to pay their driver and get their bags.

The issue was paying their driver; Phil mentioned nothing about their bags since they had the fanny pack. As seen in TAR 16 (Seychelles) and unseen in TAR 7's finale, WRP doesn't care about your belongings, only the ability to get to the next destination (passport) and the ability to settle a bill (paying drivers, etc).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 20, 2010, 03:36:05 PM
actually chad and stephanie had to go back to pay the taxi driver, not to get their bags.


I believe they had to pay their driver and get their bags.

The issue was paying their driver; Phil mentioned nothing about their bags since they had the fanny pack. As seen in TAR 16 (Seychelles) and unseen in TAR 7's finale, WRP doesn't care about your belongings, only the ability to get to the next destination (passport) and the ability to settle a bill (paying drivers, etc).

I forgot about that Zack...thus, teams without bags in the Miami airport could be racing.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 20, 2010, 11:47:00 PM
The point was they had to go PAY their cabbie... the bags didn't matter.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: TSPKM on December 21, 2010, 11:41:46 AM
I dont understand why the whole bags thing is such a big issue. All the teams were on the same flight, some had photos taken some didnt, some had bags some didnt. Werent Kisha/Jen the only ones without bags? and werent they the only team that didnt seem like they were racing? They have bad attitudes and I'm sure they were mad that they lost so they probably didnt give a crap about carrying heavy bags around.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on December 21, 2010, 11:47:36 AM
We are not 100% sure all teams were on the same flight to Miami... it certainly seems the most likely scenarion but 2 teams unseen means it cannot be absolutely confirmed right now.

The K/J "seemed like they were not racing" comment comes from the train to Zurich sighting....not from Miami, so can't be applied in this context.

I personally think bags vs no bags means nothing at this point of the race...but that's just me!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on December 21, 2010, 12:13:10 PM
We are not 100% sure all teams were on the same flight to Miami... it certainly seems the most likely scenario but 2 teams unseen means it cannot be absolutely confirmed right now.

The K/J "seemed like they were not racing" comment comes from the train to Zurich sighting....not from Miami, so can't be applied in this context.

I personally think bags vs no bags means nothing at this point of the race...but that's just me!

 :ythat:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: TSPKM on December 21, 2010, 05:10:47 PM
I agree that the bags vs no bags means nothing....

The more interesting thing in question is that if there werent 2 teams on the flight which of the 2 out of Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke and Gary/Mallory werent on the flight.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Jobby on February 04, 2011, 08:30:49 PM
I think dumping your bags is still allowed. Steve and Allie did it in Season 16? Rules might have changed since then, but that we do not know of because no similar such incidences occurred again.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: AmazingRace on February 05, 2011, 12:47:49 AM
Jaime & Cara checked in their bags for the flight to their Final Destination City and just left the airport without them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2011, 12:51:14 AM
Jaime & Cara checked in their bags for the flight to their Final Destination City and just left the airport without them.

What season are you talking about? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: AmazingRace on February 05, 2011, 01:35:48 AM
Jaime & Cara checked in their bags for the flight to their Final Destination City and just left the airport without them.

What season are you talking about? ???

Season 14. They just dumped their bags and left them in the Hawaii Airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2011, 01:46:18 AM
Back to season 18.... :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: FLFan on February 07, 2011, 11:55:34 AM
In this instance, in Miami, the airline does not collect/hold unclaimed checked baggage.......Customs does. Now, if they cleared customs with their baggage and just dumped it on the floor.....probably end up in someone's trunk or in lost and found.

These days unattended luggage in or near an airport, even in a trash can, is grounds for calling the bomb squad.  Heck, in my area, they blew up a large stuffed toy horse found in a neighborhood, just because it appeared "suspicious".   It was one of those large, motorized walking stuffed horses, the x-ray was inconclusive, so they blew it up, just in case.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on February 09, 2011, 11:55:22 PM
Jaime & Cara checked in their bags for the flight to their Final Destination City and just left the airport without them.

This is true......but you can't compare TAR 14 with TAR18...it is apples and oranges. TAR14 Final 3 cleard US Immigration and Customs at the Honolulu airport, then connected to Maui on another flight. In this case, the airline would hold any unclaimed bags from the baggage carosel in Maui. In TAR18, the Final3 cleared US Immigration and Customs in Miami. If TAR18 team(s) checked baggage in Sao Paulo, it would be held in the Customs Hall. Again, I dont know if you could exit the Customs Hall without your checked baggage. If a team was going to abandon their stuff, I would think they would do it in Sao Paulo, before they got to the airport. In several TARs we have seen teams get rid of stuff before heading home.

In TAR5, Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole packed their stuff in boxes and checked it from Calgary, Canada to Dallas, Texas. How did they get away with this? Well I believe they cleared US Immigration and Customs at the Calgary Airport. Maybe some of the Canadian members can confirm this. At the time, Canada and US had different agreements about this. I am not sure if this is still possible now.

I have always wondered if teams showed up at the sequestor hotel before the race with just the backpacks. This didn't really seem feasible. So then, I wondered what WRP did with their leftover luggage. It was not till TAR13 when Bill and Mark showed up at Elimination Station and went to their room and, low and behold , there was their rolling luggage on their beds. So production takes possession of their extra luggage and returns it to them after they are elminated. I still dont know if production just sends all teams extra luggage to the elimination station or if they haul it along the race course and then gives it to the teams to take to elimination station. IF elmination station teams didnt want to mess with backpacks, then they could have packed all that stuff in their luggage and let production transport it to their after Finish Line hotel. We saw teams in TAR16 arriving in SF and none collected any luggage and none that I remember had any backpacks either. They were transported to Candlestick Park to the finish line. Production must have collected their at some point and tranported it to their hotel.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: milanissimo on February 10, 2011, 07:44:59 AM
I have a feeling that another female team will win ....
My prediction of final three teams:Kisha and Jen ,Marge and Luke and Gary and Mallory..
 :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: apskip on February 10, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
Jaime & Cara checked in their bags for the flight to their Final Destination City and just left the airport without them.

This is true......but you can't compare TAR 14 with TAR18...it is apples and oranges. TAR14 Final 3 cleard US Immigration and Customs at the Honolulu airport, then connected to Maui on another flight. In this case, the airline would hold any unclaimed bags from the baggage carosel in Maui. In TAR18, the Final3 cleared US Immigration and Customs in Miami. If TAR18 team(s) checked baggage in Sao Paulo, it would be held in the Customs Hall. Again, I dont know if you could exit the Customs Hall without your checked baggage. If a team was going to abandon their stuff, I would think they would do it in Sao Paulo, before they got to the airport. In several TARs we have seen teams get rid of stuff before heading home.

In TAR5, Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole packed their stuff in boxes and checked it from Calgary, Canada to Dallas, Texas. How did they get away with this? Well I believe they cleared US Immigration and Customs at the Calgary Airport. Maybe some of the Canadian members can confirm this. At the time, Canada and US had different agreements about this. I am not sure if this is still possible now.

I have always wondered if teams showed up at the sequestor hotel before the race with just the backpacks. This didn't really seem feasible. So then, I wondered what WRP did with their leftover luggage. It was not till TAR13 when Bill and Mark showed up at Elimination Station and went to their room and, low and behold , there was their rolling luggage on their beds. So production takes possession of their extra luggage and returns it to them after they are elminated. I still dont know if production just sends all teams extra luggage to the elimination station or if they haul it along the race course and then gives it to the teams to take to elimination station. IF elmination station teams didnt want to mess with backpacks, then they could have packed all that stuff in their luggage and let production transport it to their after Finish Line hotel. We saw teams in TAR16 arriving in SF and none collected any luggage and none that I remember had any backpacks either. They were transported to Candlestick Park to the finish line. Production must have collected their at some point and tranported it to their hotel.


Dr. Rox,
I agree with you that Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole probably cleared U.S. customs in Calgary along with Chip/Kim. However, that is only a small part of the sad story that was the bizarre finale of AR5. Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole wanted to switch from their American Airlines reservations for Denver to DFW to United (where Chip/Kim had obtained scarce reservations to night before by arriving much later to Calgary airport as a result of their poor performance on the tasks), but I strongly believe that the American Airlines customer service rep who encouraged them to check their luggage through cost them a shot at winning AR5.  U.S. airport regulations in effect then (and probably still today) prevented them from going on any flight except with the checked luggage (which was the slightly later American flight) and gave Chip/Kim the crucial lead of over 10 minutes into DFW that ultimately was about their victory margin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on February 10, 2011, 12:44:49 PM

Dr. Rox,
I agree with you that Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole probably cleared U.S. customs in Calgary along with Chip/Kim. However, that is only a small part of the sad story that was the bizarre finale of AR5. Colin/Christie and Brandon/Nicole wanted to switch from their American Airlines reservations for Denver to DFW to United (where Chip/Kim had obtained scarce reservations to night before by arriving much later to Calgary airport as a result of their poor performance on the tasks), but I strongly believe that the American Airlines customer service rep who encouraged them to check their luggage through cost them a shot at winning AR5.  U.S. airport regulations in effect then (and probably still today) prevented them from going on any flight except with the checked luggage (which was the slightly later American flight) and gave Chip/Kim the crucial lead of over 10 minutes into DFW that ultimately was about their victory margin.

Yes apskip, one of many sad stories in the "Naked City" of the Amazing Race. One not to dissimiliar with the TAR6 ending, with Jon and Kriss being sabotaged by an AA agent in Honolulu. Here is an intersting thing about Colin/Christie. He no longer tags any of the few pictures of her on his FB page, when everyone else is tagged. On her facebook page, she is living in another city far far away from Corpus Christi and using her maiden name. Hmmmmm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on March 28, 2011, 03:58:06 PM
   CBS announced today the finale dates for the 2010-11 season.  Details for the episodes will be announced shortly.  (All times are ET/PT.)

SUNDAY, MAY 8
8:00-10:00 PM    "The Amazing Race" (two hours)


http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/bundles
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: GeKKou on March 30, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
   CBS announced today the finale dates for the 2010-11 season.  Details for the episodes will be announced shortly.  (All times are ET/PT.)

SUNDAY, MAY 8
8:00-10:00 PM    "The Amazing Race" (two hours)


http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/bundles

i hope it never ends.....just start to like this season...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: AmazingRace on March 31, 2011, 05:09:26 AM
   CBS announced today the finale dates for the 2010-11 season.  Details for the episodes will be announced shortly.  (All times are ET/PT.)

SUNDAY, MAY 8
8:00-10:00 PM    "The Amazing Race" (two hours)


http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/bundles

i hope it never ends.....just start to like this season...

I would love for it to keep going too, but it will come to an end one day. I mean, I can still remember Season 14's starting line and now we're almost mid-way through Season 18!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on March 31, 2011, 07:57:52 AM
I still remember season 1's starting line....  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on March 31, 2011, 08:35:17 AM
+1            :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theschnauzers on March 31, 2011, 12:39:22 PM
I still remember season 1's starting line....  :neener:
So do I.
It'd be fun if TAR 19 would start at the same place!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on April 11, 2011, 11:25:54 AM
With the race half way through, I thought I'd go back and look at the airport photos. I find it interesting that K/J and FT/BE are so close together. If I was a camera person, I would want the decoy teams to leave room between themselves and the racing teams so as to not be caught on film. My speculation is that they are either both in the final 3 or are 2 of the last 3 teams eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on April 11, 2011, 03:02:29 PM
With the race half way through, I thought I'd go back and look at the airport photos. I find it interesting that K/J and FT/BE are so close together. If I was a camera person, I would want the decoy teams to leave room between themselves and the racing teams so as to not be caught on film. My speculation is that they are either both in the final 3 or are 2 of the last 3 teams eliminated.
I *TOTALLY* agree!!!!!!!!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: livingincm on April 12, 2011, 01:12:23 AM
Quote
With the race half way through, I thought I'd go back and look at the airport photos. I find it interesting that K/J and FT/BE are so close together. If I was a camera person, I would want the decoy teams to leave room between themselves and the racing teams so as to not be caught on film. My speculation is that they are either both in the final 3 or are 2 of the last 3 teams eliminated.

Same thinking :) Based on my speculations & diagram, if there's 9 teams on that flight and 2 teams (Gary & Mallory and Zev/Justin) on another flight, (& it doesnt make sense if all 3 teams are not on the same flight) plus narrowing down the list by cross referencing with the eliminated teams so far, seems like the F3 would be Jet/Cord, Jen/Kisha & FT/BE. lol. Just my specs haha :)

Jet & Cord - Seen at the airport
Gary & Mallory - One of the 2 teams in the 2nd flight (assumed eliminated F4)
FlightTime & BigEasy - Seen at the airport
Kisha & Jen - Seen at the airport
Zev & Justin - One of the 2 teams in the 2nd flight. (assumed eliminated F5)
Kent & Vynxin - Seen at the airport (assumed eliminated F6) > my guess
Ron & Christina - Eliminated
Margie & Luke - Eliminated
Jaime & Cara - Eliminated
Mel & Mike - Eliminated
Amanda & Kris - Eliminated
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on April 12, 2011, 08:15:37 AM
Quote
With the race half way through, I thought I'd go back and look at the airport photos. I find it interesting that K/J and FT/BE are so close together. If I was a camera person, I would want the decoy teams to leave room between themselves and the racing teams so as to not be caught on film. My speculation is that they are either both in the final 3 or are 2 of the last 3 teams eliminated.

Same thinking :) Based on my speculations & diagram, if there's 9 teams on that flight and 2 teams (Gary & Mallory and Zev/Justin) on another flight, (& it doesn't make sense if all 3 teams are not on the same flight) plus narrowing down the list by cross referencing with the eliminated teams so far, seems like the F3 would be Jet/Cord, Jen/Kisha & FT/BE. lol. Just my specs haha :)

Jet & Cord - Seen at the airport
Gary & Mallory - One of the 2 teams in the 2nd flight (assumed eliminated F4)
FlightTime & BigEasy - Seen at the airport
Kisha & Jen - Seen at the airport
Zev & Justin - One of the 2 teams in the 2nd flight. (assumed eliminated F5)
Kent & Vynxin - Seen at the airport (assumed eliminated F6) > my guess
Ron & Christina - Eliminated
Margie & Luke - Eliminated
Jaime & Cara - Eliminated
Mel & Mike - Eliminated
Amanda & Kris - Eliminated


That I have to disagree with. There is no evidence saying those teams were on another flight. They just weren't photographed. I don't see why production would place two of their eliminated teams on a separate flight.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 12, 2011, 09:42:08 AM

That I have to disagree with. There is no evidence saying those teams were on another flight. They just weren't photographed. I don't see why production would place two of their eliminated teams on a separate flight.

Right!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on April 12, 2011, 09:59:59 AM
I have always wondered why there was a clue giver in the airport. Do teams ever receive clues in the middle of an airport?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 12, 2011, 10:15:42 AM
They did that to throw us off, that is the only reason. They are all fake clues anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 12, 2011, 10:16:23 AM
They were Decoy clues.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on April 12, 2011, 10:21:08 AM
They were Decoy clues.

I agree that they were decoy clues. I guess they wanted to make sure that every team was carrying a clue or something.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on April 25, 2011, 06:46:51 AM
Adding in some more info about our Finale Leg.

Thanks to the great work of florida, teams were spotted in Miami!

 TAR 18 teams arrived in MIA from Sao Paulo 12-13-10 on flight AA930 at 9:36 AM  (Landed 121 min late)  

9 of the 11 teams were seen briefly at the airport.
 
Production was present.
 
Clues appeared to be handed to teams who then dispersed within the airport area. (decoy run?)

All teams were eventually seen heading to the taxis....

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1-cameraguy
2-Clue giver
3-Jaime with decoy clue
4-Kynt and Vyxsin running
5-Vyxsin (cool double exposure :lol:)
6-Amanda
7-Kris
8-Kisha and Jen, and FT/BE waiting for a taxi
9-Jen entering taxi
10-Ron and Christina
11-Jet


Does that mean Ron & Christina were also decoys?  Darn!

Belle Book


What is this 'booth' we can see Jaime at? Is it a ticket counter?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kiki on April 25, 2011, 07:00:03 AM
^ I think it's just the automatic doors at the exit.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on April 25, 2011, 07:13:03 AM
^ I think it's just the automatic doors at the exit.
Thank you! I had no idea at all.

One other question- Does anyone know if all the teams were given the same clues from the cluegiver?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 25, 2011, 08:50:27 AM
^ I think it's just the automatic doors at the exit.
Thank you! I had no idea at all.

One other question- Does anyone know if all the teams were given the same clues from the cluegiver?

Think about it for a second........YOU are producing a multi-million dollar TV show........would you wait till teams walk out of Immigration and Customs in Miami to tell them where to go?

The racing teams knew before they left Brasil where the first route marker was. The non racing teams knew they were on the way to Brasil to fly in with the Final 3 and act as decoys............any clues handed out at MIA were just for show and to confuse US, ie.....all decoy clues.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: wgal on April 25, 2011, 10:03:08 PM
Sorry. I must be missing something here...

We have 5 teams at the start of 01-May leg, but the finale is on 08-May.

Does it mean we have a 2-hr finale or a double elimination next leg?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Coutzy on April 25, 2011, 10:20:26 PM
Sorry. I must be missing something here...

We have 5 teams at the start of 01-May leg, but the finale is on 08-May.

Does it mean we have a 2-hr finale or a double elimination next leg?



IIRC, next week will be the leg for the elimination that makes the final four and May 8 will be the  last two legs.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: easyg on April 25, 2011, 11:17:39 PM
Sorry. I must be missing something here...

We have 5 teams at the start of 01-May leg, but the finale is on 08-May.

Does it mean we have a 2-hr finale or a double elimination next leg?



IIRC, next week will be the leg for the elimination that makes the final four and May 8 will be the  last two legs.

Thanks for the information. I just looked at CBS's programming schedule, and 5/8/11 is indeed two hours-long and presumably legs 11 and 12 combined. I wonder if combining two legs is a kind of marketing thing - if the last 3 teams don't include any fan favorites, then viewership would be low. But if 4 teams are featured in the finale, one of which is eliminated in Brazil before the remaining teams head to Miami, then viewership might be higher.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kevin2012 on April 25, 2011, 11:25:32 PM
Sorry. I must be missing something here...

We have 5 teams at the start of 01-May leg, but the finale is on 08-May.

Does it mean we have a 2-hr finale or a double elimination next leg?



I think the finale will be similar to season 6 where there was an elimination in the middle. It's simply 2 separates legs one after the other. so I'm guessing it will start with 4 teams, eliminate one of them halfway, have 3 teams left, and one of them wins the 1 million dollar prize.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: sox15 on April 26, 2011, 12:49:03 AM
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With the race half way through, I thought I'd go back and look at the airport photos. I find it interesting that K/J and FT/BE are so close together. If I was a camera person, I would want the decoy teams to leave room between themselves and the racing teams so as to not be caught on film. My speculation is that they are either both in the final 3 or are 2 of the last 3 teams eliminated.

Same thinking :) Based on my speculations & diagram, if there's 9 teams on that flight and 2 teams (Gary & Mallory and Zev/Justin) on another flight, (& it doesnt make sense if all 3 teams are not on the same flight) plus narrowing down the list by cross referencing with the eliminated teams so far, seems like the F3 would be Jet/Cord, Jen/Kisha & FT/BE. lol. Just my specs haha :)

Jet & Cord - Seen at the airport
Gary & Mallory - One of the 2 teams in the 2nd flight (assumed eliminated F4)
FlightTime & BigEasy - Seen at the airport
Kisha & Jen - Seen at the airport
Zev & Justin - One of the 2 teams in the 2nd flight. (assumed eliminated F5)
Kent & Vynxin - Seen at the airport (assumed eliminated F6) > my guess
Ron & Christina - Eliminated
Margie & Luke - Eliminated
Jaime & Cara - Eliminated
Mel & Mike - Eliminated
Amanda & Kris - Eliminated


Or maybe you've got it the other way around...with Jet/Cord eliminated in Zermatt and FT/BE sited in Rio, I presume Jen/Kisha to screw up epically in Zermatt, then FT/BE to be eliminated next in Rio.

We've got our Final 3:  Zev/Justin, Gary/Mallory, and Kent/Vyxsin (just my speculation of course)  :duno:

Btw...LONG A** time lurker - finally registered.  Huge fan of this forum here.  You guys ROCK. :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Coutzy on April 26, 2011, 12:53:30 AM
Sorry. I must be missing something here...

We have 5 teams at the start of 01-May leg, but the finale is on 08-May.

Does it mean we have a 2-hr finale or a double elimination next leg?



IIRC, next week will be the leg for the elimination that makes the final four and May 8 will be the  last two legs.

Thanks for the information. I just looked at CBS's programming schedule, and 5/8/11 is indeed two hours-long and presumably legs 11 and 12 combined. I wonder if combining two legs is a kind of marketing thing - if the last 3 teams don't include any fan favorites, then viewership would be low. But if 4 teams are featured in the finale, one of which is eliminated in Brazil before the remaining teams head to Miami, then viewership might be higher.

I don't think it'd be a marketing thing. Editing consistently puts a fan favourite team into the final three, usually with a team that people don't like as well. After 17 seasons, this can't still be a coincidence. Based on that, I Speculate The final three will be K/V, Gallory and a third team.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2011, 01:20:58 AM
:bigwelcome to sox15, wgal, and easyq!!

We LOVE it when people delurk!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kpop_suju13_elf on April 26, 2011, 01:42:38 AM
javascript:void(0); I Predict Kynt and Vsyinx next to be eliminated and Zev and Justin not in first team to arrived at the pitstop in Leg 10. I think that what it says the Preview either globetrotters or the Goths are in Danger then, Gallory or Jenisha is in First in this Leg......Well if it's Zev and Justin win first place again I Swear javascript:void(0); They are the Winner in This season.......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kpop_suju13_elf on April 26, 2011, 01:46:57 AM
 I Predict Kynt and Vsyinx next to be eliminated and Zev and Justin not in first team to arrived at the pitstop in Leg 10. I think that what it says the Preview either globetrotters or the Goths are in Danger then, Gallory or Jenisha is in First in this Leg......Well if it's Zev and Justin win first place again I Swear  They are the Winner in This season.......javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: michael_123 on April 26, 2011, 01:57:38 AM
it appears big wasy is fighting with kent  haha
and mallory was doing the roadblock, and italso appears that everone but zev and mallory are involed  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: michael_123 on April 26, 2011, 02:00:34 AM
I Predict Kynt and Vsyinx next to be eliminated and Zev and Justin not in first team to arrived at the pitstop in Leg 10. I think that what it says the Preview either globetrotters or the Goths are in Danger then, Gallory or Jenisha is in First in this Leg......Well if it's Zev and Justin win first place again I Swear  They are the Winner in This season.......javascript:void(0);javascript:void(0);

agree hahaa  :lol: gallory will win he race my prediction :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: easyg on April 26, 2011, 03:48:37 AM
:bigwelcome to sox15, wgal, and easyq!!

We LOVE it when people delurk!!

Thank you, Peach. I love the forum.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: michael_123 on April 26, 2011, 04:32:48 AM
i think the globetrotters are going to be penalized for something, and get eliminated. As kisha and jen sneak in during their penalty like what they did last time with the globe trotters in japan and kent  and vyxsin in china.
if zev & justin win leg 10 and 11 there gonna draw with nick and starr and meghan and cheynne with winning the most legs , which i hope not hehe .
Gary and mallory are gonna win the leg, and mallorys gonna scream, AHAHAHA as usual
so this is my prediction
1. Gary Mallory
2. Zev Justin
3. Kent Vyxsin
4. Kisha Jen
5. Flighttime Bigeasy ( Eliminated - hehe :lol:), i know . im so evil HAHA
 
 :meow: maybe both kent vyxsin and globetrotters get penalized heehee

All i know is that Kent And Vyxsin wont make the final 3
and its hard to see the globetrotters win a million dollars, same goes for kisha and jen
and zev and justin just seems like they wont win... and i dont think i can picture them on the finish line mat anyways..

i think gary and mallory will win
and make history , first parent child team to win
LOL :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: jiajia12 on April 26, 2011, 05:03:00 AM
I am pretty sure the Globes arent in the final 3.Maybe Jen/Kisha is out of it too

I assume F3 Will be Kent/Vyxen Zev/Justin Gary/Mallory

with Gary/Mallory or Zev/Justin winning :flirt:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theamazingracefan100 on April 26, 2011, 05:47:39 AM
I am pretty sure the Globes arent in the final 3.Maybe Jen/Kisha is out of it too

I assume F3 Will be Kent/Vyxen Zev/Justin Gary/Mallory

with Gary/Mallory or Zev/Justin winning :flirt:
Why are you so sure? how do you know?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: jiajia12 on April 26, 2011, 06:12:49 AM
I am viewing the pics,and judging by our evidence

Jen/Kisha were seen alone in Swiz,with cameras not filming - assume next
Globes were walking in the airport,shouldn't their be running and Jen/Kisha is behind them.
Kent/Vyxen are seem to be more desperate and their facial expressions.
Zev/Justin Mallory/Gary weren't spotted. Either they are behind or ahead. (or the poster don't want to spoil by not telling us everything)

Kent/Vyxen didnt win.We know that.

buts its speculation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: theamazingracefan100 on April 26, 2011, 06:47:34 AM
I am viewing the pics,and judging by our evidence

Jen/Kisha were seen alone in Swiz,with cameras not filming - assume next
Globes were walking in the airport,shouldn't their be running and Jen/Kisha is behind them.
Kent/Vyxen are seem to be more desperate and their facial expressions.
Zev/Justin Mallory/Gary weren't spotted. Either they are behind or ahead. (or the poster don't want to spoil by not telling us everything)

Kent/Vyxen didnt win.We know that.

buts its speculation.
Make sense, but if j/k or f/b are not elimanited next that would mean both teams make it to the f3....judging from the pics in the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Zack. on April 26, 2011, 07:00:01 AM
I am viewing the pics,and judging by our evidence

Jen/Kisha were seen alone in Swiz,with cameras not filming - assume next
Globes were walking in the airport,shouldn't their be running and Jen/Kisha is behind them.
Kent/Vyxen are seem to be more desperate and their facial expressions.
Zev/Justin Mallory/Gary weren't spotted. Either they are behind or ahead. (or the poster don't want to spoil by not telling us everything)

Kent/Vyxen didnt win.We know that.

buts its speculation.

I think the J/K train picture was taken during this past leg (i.e. onto Zermatt).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 26, 2011, 07:21:55 AM


Jen/Kisha were seen alone in Swiz,with cameras not filming - assume next


This was on the train from Sargans to Zurich in the last episode. The spoiler obviously missed Zev/Justin and thier film crew, who were on the same train. Most people speculated that Kisha/Jen had been eliminated because of the lack of filming. It was a 6 hour train ride and the cameramen were saving their batteries. Do you expect the cameramen to film the whole journey....I suspect they were resting.

Using that spoiler now, to speculate on the final is flawed logic and bad analysis.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 26, 2011, 07:50:55 AM
Is there any possibility, that the very last leg to the Keys will only have two teams racing?

Lets say there was a nice surprise and another elimination. During the last hour of the final there is a surprise elimination. Or maybe there is a double elimination?

Maybe this is why we see 9 teams racing at Miami and the two we don't see, Gallory and Z/J. They are the two teams left racing for the million dollars?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: alextofu07 on April 26, 2011, 08:01:55 AM
I hope the final 3 will be Herb & Nate, Kynts & Vyxsin, Zev & Justin
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on April 26, 2011, 01:36:10 PM
Is there any possibility, that the very last leg to the Keys will only have two teams racing?

Lets say there was a nice surprise and another elimination. During the last hour of the final there is a surprise elimination. Or maybe there is a double elimination?

Maybe this is why we see 9 teams racing at Miami and the two we don't see, Gallory and Z/J. They are the two teams left racing for the million dollars?

I believe that there are three teams racing in the finale. However, it is strange that those two teams in particular are not seen in those pictures.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kinibug on April 26, 2011, 04:12:15 PM
I would really like it if Zev and Justin win but I doubt it. I know we shouldn't necessarily go on the basis of edits, but I think they're building it up to a Gallory win.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: David on April 26, 2011, 04:27:54 PM
Why does jiajia12 say that we know that Kent & Vyxsin didn't win? I mean, we have no idea about the results of the final leg, isn't that true?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on April 26, 2011, 05:43:14 PM
Why does jiajia12 say that we know that Kent & Vyxsin didn't win? I mean, we have no idea about the results of the final leg, isn't that true?

I believe you are correct, David. I don't think we know the results of the final leg at this point in time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2011, 09:02:11 PM
Is there any possibility, that the very last leg to the Keys will only have two teams racing?


NOPE.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Belle Book on April 26, 2011, 09:05:02 PM
Why does jiajia12 say that we know that Kent & Vyxsin didn't win? I mean, we have no idea about the results of the final leg, isn't that true?

No, but it's rare that a team that has a terrible edit wins the whole thing.  Makes it to the finals, sure -- I've seen plenty of teams with bad edits make it to the finals, like Brian & Ericka from Season 15 -- but win?  Not that often.  Thus although Kent & Vyksin may well make the finals based on their edit, the odds are against them winning.  The odds are more in favor of Gary & Mallory or Zev & Justin winning.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: connayyy on April 26, 2011, 09:12:58 PM
Why does jiajia12 say that we know that Kent & Vyxsin didn't win? I mean, we have no idea about the results of the final leg, isn't that true?

No, but it's rare that a team that has a terrible edit wins the whole thing.  Makes it to the finals, sure -- I've seen plenty of teams with bad edits make it to the finals, like Brian & Ericka from Season 15 -- but win?  Not that often.  Thus although Kent & Vyksin may well make the finals based on their edit, the odds are against them winning.  The odds are more in favor of Gary & Mallory or Zev & Justin winning.

Belle Book


I agree with this. Kent and Vyxsin might win, but it's more likely going to be a Gallory or a Zev/Justin win. Based on the editing in the first few legs, I thought that Gallory and Zev/Justin would make the finals. Both of them seemed to get pretty big edits despite not having huge fan bases like the cowboys.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: selkie on April 26, 2011, 11:07:40 PM
Though Kent still hasn't reached Flo levels, and she got dragged around the whole world to win the thing. Eric & Danielle didn't get a great edit either, IMO.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: easyg on April 27, 2011, 12:20:56 AM
Why does jiajia12 say that we know that Kent & Vyxsin didn't win? I mean, we have no idea about the results of the final leg, isn't that true?

No, but it's rare that a team that has a terrible edit wins the whole thing.  Makes it to the finals, sure -- I've seen plenty of teams with bad edits make it to the finals, like Brian & Ericka from Season 15 -- but win?  Not that often.  Thus although Kent & Vyksin may well make the finals based on their edit, the odds are against them winning.  The odds are more in favor of Gary & Mallory or Zev & Justin winning.

Belle Book


I agree with this. Kent and Vyxsin might win, but it's more likely going to be a Gallory or a Zev/Justin win. Based on the editing in the first few legs, I thought that Gallory and Zev/Justin would make the finals. Both of them seemed to get pretty big edits despite not having huge fan bases like the cowboys.


Based strictly on the editing, I would guess that the one team that definitely does not win is Jen/Kisha. The editors don't give them any love at all.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: themikko95 on April 27, 2011, 02:16:21 AM
hello. i've been reading this post for a couple of months now. so i made an account so i can ask questions.  :lol: i have information on who the final 3 are. and they're pretty accurate.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: AmazingRace on April 27, 2011, 02:39:42 AM
hello. i've been reading this post for a couple of months now. so i made an account so i can ask questions.  :lol: i have information on who the final 3 are. and they're pretty accurate.

 :welcome: to RFF!

 :colors That's interesting!   :js:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: David on April 27, 2011, 03:07:49 AM
If it is something between Z/J and G/M, I'd go for G/M. I mean, Z/J have a good editing just because they're winning all the legs (mostly). So, if Z/J deserve having a good edit, why do G/M get it? Because they win the last leg? More than probable for me.

PS: It's hard for me to post that. I don't want K/V not to win, :lol: Go GOTHS!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: ianinator on April 27, 2011, 03:29:11 AM
NONE OF THE FIVE REMAINING TEAMS WON!

THE COWBOYS WON! =D

BTW I'm so sad that they left. I'm still pissed off about it..

anyways, I think that every single one of them have 20% chance of making it to the end...

However, by the way Zev and Justin perform leg after leg.. they definitely have a big chance of making it to the finals.

I do believe that Kent and Vyxsin will make it to the finals because underdogs always gets the luck like before the finals... (JMO)

soo that leaves us with Gary and Mallory, Kisha and Jen and the Big Trolls

I have a feeling that it might be Kisha and Jen that's going home next episode...

so it's either The Dumb basketball players or Gary and Mal will make it to finals...

soo, the teams that will be fighting for the million dollars are

Zev and Justin
Kent and Vxsyin
Gary and Mal or the Big Trolls (Hope it's Gary and Mal)

and I want either Zev and Justin or Gary and Mal to win because first, Zev will be the first contestant to win the race with autism and second, Gary and Mal will be the first Parent/Child team...

so another history is on the line again! =)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: themikko95 on April 27, 2011, 04:03:50 AM
hello. i've been reading this post for a couple of months now. so i made an account so i can ask questions.  :lol: i have information on who the final 3 are. and they're pretty accurate.

 :welcome: to RFF!

 :colors That's interesting!   :js:



the post has been up since March. after Mel/Mike's elimination and days before Jaime/Cara's elimination. i only saw it yesterday and i was amazed on how accurate it was. it predicted the teams' elimination in exact order too. i wasn't surprised who the final 3 were.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: malbee on April 27, 2011, 04:11:48 AM
I also hope that Gallory will win the race.. and after watched the Amazing Race Extra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2c7TvIpqm8&feature=feedu (see the minute 08.00) where Mallory said that she got this strange feeling that somehow they can win the race.. I also got the feeling.. Ha ha ha

Though I love almost all the teams in this season... including the cowboys.. But it's fun to see the first father/daughter won the race.. History again..

But if Zev/Justin won it.. I also happy because I really love to see how nice Justin is..and for Zev his originality is really fun to watch.. ;)

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: jnsars4zjtar18 on April 27, 2011, 04:35:23 AM
Hi guys!  :waves: a long time lurker and newbie here!  :js:

I agree. I would like to see Zev/Justin & the Ervins in the final 3 because not only they are my faves but also they have what it takes to win. Not sure who the other one is but I dont want to see K/V or the Globetrotters in the finals (although at this point, it is everybody's game). I would'nt mind K/J in the F3 too.   :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on April 27, 2011, 04:51:46 AM
hello. i've been reading this post for a couple of months now. so i made an account so i can ask questions.  :lol: i have information on who the final 3 are. and they're pretty accurate.

 :welcome: to RFF!

 :colors That's interesting!   :js:



the post has been up since March. after Mel/Mike's elimination and days before Jaime/Cara's elimination. i only saw it yesterday and i was amazed on how accurate it was. it predicted the teams' elimination in exact order too. i wasn't surprised who the final 3 were.

What post are you talking about?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: ianinator on April 27, 2011, 05:49:48 AM
hello. i've been reading this post for a couple of months now. so i made an account so i can ask questions.  :lol: i have information on who the final 3 are. and they're pretty accurate.

Where did you see the information?
 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: themikko95 on April 27, 2011, 06:02:05 AM
hello. i've been reading this post for a couple of months now. so i made an account so i can ask questions.  :lol: i have information on who the final 3 are. and they're pretty accurate.

Where did you see the information?
 
some site. google it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: themikko95 on April 27, 2011, 06:03:41 AM
hello. i've been reading this post for a couple of months now. so i made an account so i can ask questions.  :lol: i have information on who the final 3 are. and they're pretty accurate.

Where did you see the information?
 
some site. google it.
i think it's accurate but i'm never believing in those anymore after i thought Jess and Lani were going to win The Amazing Race Asia
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2011, 08:14:26 AM
I'll just say that there are a LOT of fake "boot lists" out there, so "buyer beware". :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Belle Book on April 27, 2011, 10:04:17 AM
Though Kent still hasn't reached Flo levels, and she got dragged around the whole world to win the thing. Eric & Danielle didn't get a great edit either, IMO.

I remember, that's why I said it was rare.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on April 27, 2011, 11:06:30 AM
please stop.... :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kgallant46 on April 27, 2011, 11:43:49 AM
Longtime lurker, first time post.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the "winners' edit" thing.  I've been watching AR since the 1st season and I've never noticed that a particular teams' edit meant anything in regards to who won a particular season.  It's easy to say at the end, this team got the "winners' edit," but I just can't tell.  What is it about any teams' current edit screams "winners' edit"?  It all seems the same to me.

BTW, I love all the remaining teams, so any of them winning would be fine by me, even the Trotters!  :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 27, 2011, 12:00:05 PM
This is from the CBS media web site:
Quote
Sunday, May 8             THE AMAZING RACE-The final four Teams race

(8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT)          through Rio de Janeiro and then to Miami, where the winner of the $1 million prize is revealed.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

The final four teams...

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=28130
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: gator27 on April 27, 2011, 12:05:27 PM
This is from the CBS media web site:
Quote
Sunday, May 8             THE AMAZING RACE-The final four Teams race

(8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT)          through Rio de Janeiro and then to Miami, where the winner of the $1 million prize is revealed.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

The final four teams...

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=28130
In keeping with the Season, it sounds like the racers will get a keep on racing clue in Rio!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kevin2012 on April 27, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
This is from the CBS media web site:
Quote
Sunday, May 8             THE AMAZING RACE-The final four Teams race

(8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT)          through Rio de Janeiro and then to Miami, where the winner of the $1 million prize is revealed.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

The final four teams...

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=28130
I knew it! this is just like in season 6
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 27, 2011, 12:54:32 PM
This is from the CBS media web site:
Quote
Sunday, May 8             THE AMAZING RACE-The final four Teams race

(8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT)          through Rio de Janeiro and then to Miami, where the winner of the $1 million prize is revealed.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

The final four teams...

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=28130
I knew it! this is just like in season 6

It is? How is it like Season 6?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Dånooky on April 27, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
I believe the person who wrote the summary forgot to include the elimination that should happen between the leg in Rio and the one in Miami. Anyhow, analyzers will over analyze...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: apskip on April 27, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
This is from the CBS media web site:
Quote
Sunday, May 8             THE AMAZING RACE-The final four Teams race

(8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT)          through Rio de Janeiro and then to Miami, where the winner of the $1 million prize is revealed.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

The final four teams...

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=28130
I knew it! this is just like in season 6

It is? How is it like Season 6?

Dr. Rox,
I asked the same question based on my memory of the finale of AR6, but that episode aired 2/8/05 was like the upcoming AR18 finale in these important ways:

There were 4 teams starting in Shanghai for the first hour of the finale. There were 3 teams in the second hour of the finale:
Freddie/Kendra
Kris/Jon
Adam/Rebecca

The second hour of the AR6 finale took teams inland to Xian for the infamous locks ROADBLOCK, then took them to see the TerraCotta Warriors, then flew them to Oahu for tasks, then flew then to Chicago for tasks before the pit stop was at Ping Tom Park.

Based on not reaching Brazil in AR18 Ep. 10, Ep. 11 will get teams to Rio de Janeiro and have some tasks there. I expect one team to be jettisoned in the first hour of the Ep. 12 finale no later than on the way to Sao Paulo airport for the flight to Miami, although I do not know how World Race Productions will manage that. If they don't eliminate the 4th team, it hardly matters. I believe that at most 3 teams will be in the final race to the Finish Line (and it may be just like in AR6 only be 2 teams really competing at the end).  

I doubted him based on my memory of AR6, but kevint2005 proved to be correct after I looked up the details.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
They should have checked with us here first. :res:

4 teams go to RIO>>one team is eliminated.

THREE teams race for the finale. Not 4.

The confusion must arise over this being two legs?

BUT THREE FOR THE FINALE. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 27, 2011, 02:46:22 PM
This is from the CBS media web site:
Quote
Sunday, May 8             THE AMAZING RACE-The final four Teams race

(8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT)          through Rio de Janeiro and then to Miami, where the winner of the $1 million prize is revealed.  Phil Keoghan hosts.

The final four teams...

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/release?id=28130
I knew it! this is just like in season 6

It is? How is it like Season 6?

Dr. Rox,
I asked the same question based on my memory of the finale of AR6, but that episode aired 2/8/05 was like the upcoming AR18 finale in these important ways:

There were 4 teams starting in Shanghai for the first hour of the finale. There were 3 teams in the second hour of the finale:
Freddie/Kendra
Kris/Jon
Adam/Rebecca

The second hour of the AR6 finale took teams inland to Xian for the infamous locks ROADBLOCK, then took them to see the TerraCotta Warriors, then flew them to Oahu for tasks, then flew then to Chicago for tasks before the pit stop was at Ping Tom Park.

Based on not reaching Brazil in AR18 Ep. 10, Ep. 11 will get teams to Rio de Janeiro and have some tasks there. I expect one team to be jettisoned in the first hour of the Ep. 12 finale no later than on the way to Sao Paulo airport for the flight to Miami, although I do not know how World Race Productions will manage that. If they don't eliminate the 4th team, it hardly matters. I believe that at most 3 teams will be in the final race to the Finish Line (and it may be just like in AR6 only be 2 teams really competing at the end).  

I doubted him based on my memory of AR6, but kevint2005 proved to be correct after I looked up the details.

Thank you for your intrepretation of the poster's intent, apskip..........but I directed my question at the poster. It was not a general question for anyone.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: connayyy on April 27, 2011, 04:09:05 PM
Longtime lurker, first time post.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the "winners' edit" thing.  I've been watching AR since the 1st season and I've never noticed that a particular teams' edit meant anything in regards to who won a particular season.  It's easy to say at the end, this team got the "winners' edit," but I just can't tell.  What is it about any teams' current edit screams "winners' edit"?  It all seems the same to me.

BTW, I love all the remaining teams, so any of them winning would be fine by me, even the Trotters!  :)

You're right, and there's definitely no "rubric" or whatever in regard to the editing. It's mostly just a gut feeling or something like that. And I did notice that in the leg in Broken Hill, there were a lot of pictures of Gary and Mallory posted on the CBS website. And that on the China TBC, they ended the first episode before Zev/Justin checked in. This seemed a little unnecessary, since we knew they'd beat Kent/Vyxsin; it seemed like the editors just wanted to put some extra focus on them. These two teams in particular also seem to have gotten a fairly large edit. Neither team has a cowboys-size fan base, nor do they have a lot of drama, so I feel like the reason they're getting a big edit is probably because they made the Final 3.

Now I'll laugh if I'm totally wrong; this is just a hunch!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Belle Book on April 27, 2011, 08:57:18 PM
Longtime lurker, first time post.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the "winners' edit" thing.  I've been watching AR since the 1st season and I've never noticed that a particular teams' edit meant anything in regards to who won a particular season.  It's easy to say at the end, this team got the "winners' edit," but I just can't tell.  What is it about any teams' current edit screams "winners' edit"?  It all seems the same to me.

BTW, I love all the remaining teams, so any of them winning would be fine by me, even the Trotters!  :)

Well, one good way to tell that a team has made the Final 3 (not necessarily that they won) is to look at how large their edit is in legs where they don't finish either first or near the back of the pack.  If they are featured more than perhaps they should in a leg where they finished in the middle, then there's a reason for it.  Most likely, that team made the finals.

A great example is last season's winners, Nat & Kat.  They were featured even in legs where they didn't come near the front or the back of the pack.  Editing thus suggests they made the finals.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: LoveRocked on April 27, 2011, 09:06:02 PM
WOW! That's long 2 hours on Episode 11 and Episode 12? for four teams?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on April 27, 2011, 10:43:02 PM
Longtime lurker, first time post.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the "winners' edit" thing.  I've been watching AR since the 1st season and I've never noticed that a particular teams' edit meant anything in regards to who won a particular season.  It's easy to say at the end, this team got the "winners' edit," but I just can't tell.  What is it about any teams' current edit screams "winners' edit"?  It all seems the same to me.

BTW, I love all the remaining teams, so any of them winning would be fine by me, even the Trotters!  :)

Well, one good way to tell that a team has made the Final 3 (not necessarily that they won) is to look at how large their edit is in legs where they don't finish either first or near the back of the pack.  If they are featured more than perhaps they should in a leg where they finished in the middle, then there's a reason for it.  Most likely, that team made the finals.

A great example is last season's winners, Nat & Kat.  They were featured even in legs where they didn't come near the front or the back of the pack.  Editing thus suggests they made the finals.

Belle Book


Thats actually a great theory. I think next time I rewatch a season I will check and see if it actually adds up.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kgallant46 on April 27, 2011, 10:45:41 PM
Longtime lurker, first time post.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the "winners' edit" thing.  I've been watching AR since the 1st season and I've never noticed that a particular teams' edit meant anything in regards to who won a particular season.  It's easy to say at the end, this team got the "winners' edit," but I just can't tell.  What is it about any teams' current edit screams "winners' edit"?  It all seems the same to me.

BTW, I love all the remaining teams, so any of them winning would be fine by me, even the Trotters!  :)

Well, one good way to tell that a team has made the Final 3 (not necessarily that they won) is to look at how large their edit is in legs where they don't finish either first or near the back of the pack.  If they are featured more than perhaps they should in a leg where they finished in the middle, then there's a reason for it.  Most likely, that team made the finals.

A great example is last season's winners, Nat & Kat.  They were featured even in legs where they didn't come near the front or the back of the pack.  Editing thus suggests they made the finals.

Belle Book


I don't know, it still seems more like perception than reality to me.  I don't keep my DVRs of an episode past a few weeks, so it's very difficult for me to really assess if what you're saying is true.  I just don't pay much attention to how much airtime each team receives during each episode.  I wonder if someone has actual numbers that prove this?

Last season, 3 teams stood out to me after the first episode:  Brooke/Claire, Nat/Kat and Vegas.  If I remember correctly, B/C and N/K did well for much of the season, which could explain their favorable edits.  Vegas was just comedy gold, even if they didn't make it as far as they did, I still think the producers wanted to focus on them as much as possible, just for the entertainment value.  But that's just my perception.  Someone else may have a totally different impression than I had.

So, basically you're saying that Gallory and Zev/Justin will make Final 3 because of their airtime??  I don't know.  It seems that the Cowboys and Kent/Vyxsin have been focused on even more than them, but again it's just my perception.  We can debate about it forever.  I would just love to see the actual numbers instead of someone's perception of it.  Just saying....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on April 28, 2011, 12:04:29 AM
Longtime lurker, first time post.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the "winners' edit" thing.  I've been watching AR since the 1st season and I've never noticed that a particular teams' edit meant anything in regards to who won a particular season.  It's easy to say at the end, this team got the "winners' edit," but I just can't tell.  What is it about any teams' current edit screams "winners' edit"?  It all seems the same to me.

BTW, I love all the remaining teams, so any of them winning would be fine by me, even the Trotters!  :)

Well, one good way to tell that a team has made the Final 3 (not necessarily that they won) is to look at how large their edit is in legs where they don't finish either first or near the back of the pack.  If they are featured more than perhaps they should in a leg where they finished in the middle, then there's a reason for it.  Most likely, that team made the finals.

A great example is last season's winners, Nat & Kat.  They were featured even in legs where they didn't come near the front or the back of the pack.  Editing thus suggests they made the finals.

Belle Book


I don't know, it still seems more like perception than reality to me.  I don't keep my DVRs of an episode past a few weeks, so it's very difficult for me to really assess if what you're saying is true.  I just don't pay much attention to how much airtime each team receives during each episode.  I wonder if someone has actual numbers that prove this?

Last season, 3 teams stood out to me after the first episode:  Brooke/Claire, Nat/Kat and Vegas.  If I remember correctly, B/C and N/K did well for much of the season, which could explain their favorable edits.  Vegas was just comedy gold, even if they didn't make it as far as they did, I still think the producers wanted to focus on them as much as possible, just for the entertainment value.  But that's just my perception.  Someone else may have a totally different impression than I had.

So, basically you're saying that Gallory and Zev/Justin will make Final 3 because of their airtime??  I don't know.  It seems that the Cowboys and Kent/Vyxsin have been focused on even more than them, but again it's just my perception.  We can debate about it forever.  I would just love to see the actual numbers instead of someone's perception of it.  Just saying....

If the theory held water, I would say the final 3 is Kent and Vyxsin, Gallory and Zev and Justin.

K/V are the most focused on team IMO.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on April 28, 2011, 01:58:08 PM
Longtime lurker, first time post.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the "winners' edit" thing.  I've been watching AR since the 1st season and I've never noticed that a particular teams' edit meant anything in regards to who won a particular season.  It's easy to say at the end, this team got the "winners' edit," but I just can't tell.  What is it about any teams' current edit screams "winners' edit"?  It all seems the same to me.

BTW, I love all the remaining teams, so any of them winning would be fine by me, even the Trotters!  :)


Well, one good way to tell that a team has made the Final 3 (not necessarily that they won) is to look at how large their edit is in legs where they don't finish either first or near the back of the pack.  If they are featured more than perhaps they should in a leg where they finished in the middle, then there's a reason for it.  Most likely, that team made the finals.

A great example is last season's winners, Nat & Kat.  They were featured even in legs where they didn't come near the front or the back of the pack.  Editing thus suggests they made the finals.

Belle Book


I don't know, it still seems more like perception than reality to me.  I don't keep my DVRs of an episode past a few weeks, so it's very difficult for me to really assess if what you're saying is true.  I just don't pay much attention to how much airtime each team receives during each episode.  I wonder if someone has actual numbers that prove this?

Last season, 3 teams stood out to me after the first episode:  Brooke/Claire, Nat/Kat and Vegas.  If I remember correctly, B/C and N/K did well for much of the season, which could explain their favorable edits.  Vegas was just comedy gold, even if they didn't make it as far as they did, I still think the producers wanted to focus on them as much as possible, just for the entertainment value.  But that's just my perception.  Someone else may have a totally different impression than I had.

So, basically you're saying that Gallory and Zev/Justin will make Final 3 because of their airtime??  I don't know.  It seems that the Cowboys and Kent/Vyxsin have been focused on even more than them, but again it's just my perception.  We can debate about it forever.  I would just love to see the actual numbers instead of someone's perception of it.  Just saying....

If the theory held water, I would say the final 3 is Kent and Vyxsin, Gallory and Zev and Justin.

K/V are the most focused on team IMO.

My theory has been that K/J and FT/BE either each have to be decoys or in the F3, sans being filmed so close together. Z/J and G/M both remained unseen at the airport, so it can be assumed they are also as close together as K/J and FT/BE. This puts them in the same position as either decoys or two of the F3 teams. K/V would be the third to matter what the outcome. If this "winners edit" holds true, then your projected final 3 would seem valid.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on April 28, 2011, 02:00:21 PM
I agree with the speculated Final Three being G\M, Z\J, and K\V, but we have nothing to support this yet.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Michel on April 28, 2011, 02:41:03 PM
I agree with the speculated Final Three being G\M, Z\J, and K\V, but we have nothing to support this yet.
They're the three most focused-on teams, yes, but that doesn't mean they're in the F3.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 29, 2011, 03:29:40 PM
The finale title is    "This Is Where It Ends" (Brazil and Florida)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on April 29, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
An ominous title! Are they calling both episodes that? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: gator27 on April 29, 2011, 04:03:56 PM
This was in the Media thread below.

On page 71 of the May 6th issue of Entertainment Weekly

SEASON FINALE

8-10pm

The Amazing Race

CBS HD

This season, 11 teams who lost their first Race returned...and mostly made the same old mistakes. Father-daughter duo Ron and Christina still couldn't communicate with each other; the ginger-haired cheerleaders still couldn't communicate with cabbies. We don't know which four teams will make it to tonight's two-hour finale, but we're betting on witty best friends Zev and Justin for the win. (just hold on to your passports this time, guys!)

-Darren Franich 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2011, 06:00:46 AM
Turns out we need to make a correction.

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate door...we made the assumption that they had all just arrived on the same plane from Sao Paulo.

Turns out that was not the case.....

The elimiinated teams were brought to Miami ahead of time and were just brought to the airport and put into position that morning.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on April 30, 2011, 07:07:29 AM
Turns out we need to make a correction.

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate...we made the assumption that they had all just arrived on the same plane from Sao Paulo.

Turns out that was not the case.....

The elimiinated teams were brought to Miami ahead of time and were just brought to the airport and put into position that morning.

So the final 3 (and most likely the eliminated 4th person) all arrived in the flight, while the elimination station teams just met up at the airport?
Do we know if Gary/Mallory and Zev/Justin were there now?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kevin2012 on April 30, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
The finale title is    "This Is Where It Ends" (Brazil and Florida)

That's one cool finale title, much more exciting than last season's "Hi, I'm Sorry, I'm in a Race"
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: jiajia12 on April 30, 2011, 08:14:39 AM
Turns out we need to make a correction.

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate...we made the assumption that they had all just arrived on the same plane from Sao Paulo.

Turns out that was not the case.....

The elimiinated teams were brought to Miami ahead of time and were just brought to the airport and put into position that morning.

look like we were right about.the poster and certain individuals dont want to spoil us and keep us guessing. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: apskip on April 30, 2011, 09:56:18 AM
Turns out we need to make a correction.

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate...we made the assumption that they had all just arrived on the same plane from Sao Paulo.

Turns out that was not the case.....

The elimiinated teams were brought to Miami ahead of time and were just brought to the airport and put into position that morning.

So the final 3 (and most likely the eliminated 4th person) all arrived in the flight, while the elimination station teams just met up at the airport?
Do we know if Gary/Mallory and Zev/Justin were there now?


Previous indications were that the Elimination Station teams went to Brazil to meet up with the remaining eliminated teams and the F3. It was more logical that they would get sent to Miami and that appears to be the case. I hypothesize that this happens:

1. All 5 or 6 Elimination Station teams go as directly as possible from Thailand to Miami.
2. The remaining eliminated teams may go ahead of the F3 teams or may arrive with them (I would do the latter for maximum decoy effect) from Brazil.
3. The F3 go on the same non-stop flight from Brazil as is usually the case.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on April 30, 2011, 10:13:42 AM
Turns out we need to make a correction.

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate...we made the assumption that they had all just arrived on the same plane from Sao Paulo.

Turns out that was not the case.....

The elimiinated teams were brought to Miami ahead of time and were just brought to the airport and put into position that morning.

So is there anyway to determine which is which in those photos we have? And the fact that FT/BE were seen in Brazil means that they are in the final four?
I don't see any reason for them to be in Brazil unless they were now that we know that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 30, 2011, 10:27:41 AM
Well Luke pretty much said that the ES teams didnt go to Rio/SP in one of his elimination interviews.........so I figured something different was afoot. Thanks for the new info Peach!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Belle Book on April 30, 2011, 11:38:22 AM
Turns out we need to make a correction.

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate...we made the assumption that they had all just arrived on the same plane from Sao Paulo.

Turns out that was not the case.....

The elimiinated teams were brought to Miami ahead of time and were just brought to the airport and put into position that morning.

So is there anyway to determine which is which in those photos we have? And the fact that FT/BE were seen in Brazil means that they are in the final four?
I don't see any reason for them to be in Brazil unless they were now that we know that.

They could have been decoys.  Jet & Cord and the fifth place team will be travelling as decoys in Brazil.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2011, 02:10:01 PM
They could have been decoys.  Jet & Cord and the fifth place team will be travelling as decoys in Brazil.

Belle Book


or not........... :o
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: RealityFreakWill on April 30, 2011, 04:05:37 PM
Found this on twitter of what I already posted the other day

(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg620/scaled.php?tn=0&server=620&filename=u154.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on April 30, 2011, 05:04:25 PM

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate...

With all due respect........that scenario is impossible.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on April 30, 2011, 05:28:02 PM

When we saw ALL but 2 teams arriving in Miami and coming out thru the same gate door...

fixed

And remember...not SEEN does not mean NOT there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: selkie on April 30, 2011, 09:04:45 PM
The Entertainment Weekly 'watch it this week' section doesn't automatically contain spoilers. I can think of at least one time in the past where they've ended talking about a team in that blurb that had actually been eliminated in the previous episode.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Phat139 on April 30, 2011, 09:12:55 PM
Have anybody noticed that the teams who were on the F3 in their last season (Ron&Christina-S12, Jamie&Cara/Margie&Luke-S14, Jet&Cord-S16) were eliminated earlier in this season.... While the other teams, who were not on the F3 and were eliminated earlier or later by some stupid reasons in their last season (Kent&Vysxin-S12, Kisha&Jen-S14, Zev&Justin/Trotters-S15, Gary&Mallory-S17) are going to be on the F3 soon in this season?  :duno:
LOL the world is upside-down  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Dånooky on April 30, 2011, 11:44:12 PM
Have anybody noticed that the teams who were on the F3 in their last season (Ron&Christina-S12, Jamie&Cara/Margie&Luke-S14, Jet&Cord-S16) were eliminated earlier in this season.... While the other teams, who were not on the F3 and were eliminated earlier or later by some stupid reasons in their last season (Kent&Vysxin-S12, Kisha&Jen-S14, Zev&Justin/Trotters-S15, Gary&Mallory-S17) are going to be on the F3 soon in this season?  :duno:
LOL the world is upside-down  :lol3:
That was almost the same trend in All-Stars: teams that placed 5th-11th placed worse than their previous season, 4th place was the same, and the F3 all finished better.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kevin2012 on May 01, 2011, 12:34:06 AM
Have anybody noticed that the teams who were on the F3 in their last season (Ron&Christina-S12, Jamie&Cara/Margie&Luke-S14, Jet&Cord-S16) were eliminated earlier in this season.... While the other teams, who were not on the F3 and were eliminated earlier or later by some stupid reasons in their last season (Kent&Vysxin-S12, Kisha&Jen-S14, Zev&Justin/Trotters-S15, Gary&Mallory-S17) are going to be on the F3 soon in this season?  :duno:
LOL the world is upside-down  :lol3:
That was almost the same trend in All-Stars: teams that placed 5th-11th placed worse than their previous season, 4th place was the same, and the F3 all finished better.

what's strange is that even though we've had 2 "all-stars" season, no single TEAM in the history of the race has made it to the final 3 and the finish line twice

Eric doesn't count because Danielle wasn't his original partner
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on May 01, 2011, 01:44:21 AM
Have anybody noticed that the teams who were on the F3 in their last season (Ron&Christina-S12, Jamie&Cara/Margie&Luke-S14, Jet&Cord-S16) were eliminated earlier in this season.... While the other teams, who were not on the F3 and were eliminated earlier or later by some stupid reasons in their last season (Kent&Vysxin-S12, Kisha&Jen-S14, Zev&Justin/Trotters-S15, Gary&Mallory-S17) are going to be on the F3 soon in this season?  :duno:
LOL the world is upside-down  :lol3:

Wow, and even funnier is the fact that if Jen/Kisha or FT/BE is eliminated next, and then the other one is eliminated after that, the pattern will have repeated exactly, because J/K and FT/BE both got 4th in their season, so if one of them is 5th, they will be worse, the next one is 4th, they would be the same, and then the F3 would have all done better!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Jobby on May 01, 2011, 01:55:06 AM
Clearly, based on performance wise, Zev and Justin should be in the final 3.

Based on overall performance, it does seems like Zev and Justin, Flight Time and Big Easy and Kisha and Jen will become our final 3. With Gary and Mallory in fourth (they DO look like a typical fourth place team, very popular and likable but just missing it) and Goths in FIFTH.

But based on edit, i gotta say our Final 3 should be Zev and Justin (the strong team), Gary and Mallory (the underdogs) and Kent and Vyxsin (the hopelessly lost underdogs).. Kisha and Jen and FT and BE... either they're real boring, we didn't really see much of them this season. Not many team interviews especially from Kisha and Jen.

But i'm hoping for a 5th place for FT and BE, 4th for Zev and Justin and F3 of 3 underdogs teams... that'll be fun to watch. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kiki on May 01, 2011, 02:01:39 AM
But i'm hoping for a 5th place for FT and BE, 4th for Zev and Justin and F3 of 3 underdogs teams... that'll be fun to watch. :lol3:

That would be my favourite F3 as well. And I agree with you Kisha and jen are almost non existent, we rarely see them at any length at tasks ans they have the fewer interviews 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mike4lyf on May 01, 2011, 04:48:46 AM
But i'm hoping for a 5th place for FT and BE, 4th for Zev and Justin and F3 of 3 underdogs teams... that'll be fun to watch. :lol3:

That would be my favourite F3 as well. And I agree with you Kisha and jen are almost non existent, we rarely see them at any length at tasks ans they have the fewer interviews 

Ditto, except I'd rather Z/J leave first :P
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Jobby on May 01, 2011, 04:56:45 AM
But i'm hoping for a 5th place for FT and BE, 4th for Zev and Justin and F3 of 3 underdogs teams... that'll be fun to watch. :lol3:

That would be my favourite F3 as well. And I agree with you Kisha and jen are almost non existent, we rarely see them at any length at tasks ans they have the fewer interviews 

Ditto, except I'd rather Z/J leave first :P

This is nothing personal but Zev has to do at least 1 to 2 more Roadblocks if the Roadblock count for this season is 6. (Do we know if it's 7?) Remember how Zev screwed up the Zodiac Roadblock in China? I don't know if it's fair to say this but whenever Zev's doing the Roadblock i'm pretty worried for the team if it's a tough RB.

Same for Mallory as well.. not saying that she's the slower one in the team, but she needs to do at least 1 to 2 more and it could be detrimental if it's a physical RB and Gary can't do it anymore.

But this is obviously not a problem for Vyxsin though.. she's like the man in the team. Vyxsin <3 :lol: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on May 01, 2011, 12:03:10 PM
But i'm hoping for a 5th place for FT and BE, 4th for Zev and Justin and F3 of 3 underdogs teams... that'll be fun to watch. :lol3:

That would be my favourite F3 as well. And I agree with you Kisha and jen are almost non existent, we rarely see them at any length at tasks ans they have the fewer interviews 

Ditto, except I'd rather Z/J leave first :P

This is nothing personal but Zev has to do at least 1 to 2 more Roadblocks if the Roadblock count for this season is 6. (Do we know if it's 7?) Remember how Zev screwed up the Zodiac Roadblock in China? I don't know if it's fair to say this but whenever Zev's doing the Roadblock i'm pretty worried for the team if it's a tough RB.

Same for Mallory as well.. not saying that she's the slower one in the team, but she needs to do at least 1 to 2 more and it could be detrimental if it's a physical RB and Gary can't do it anymore.

But this is obviously not a problem for Vyxsin though.. she's like the man in the team. Vyxsin <3 :lol: :lol3:

Interesting point about both Zev & Mallory. I think that it will depend on the roadblock that is presented to them. We know each do it this time, so assuming both teams survive, it comes down to making the right choices. Gary & Mallory have it easier as they can pretty much figure out if the task will be physical or not. Zev & Justin have to decide when to risk putting Zev in. The past has been that the final roadblock involves a memory challenge of sorts. So for them it would be smart to do Zev, Justin, Zev.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on May 01, 2011, 12:31:49 PM
It will be interesting to see what Production does on the RBs. There are only 11 RBs this season. So if 7 is the upper limit, then teams can do a 7/4 split. Personally, that goes a little over the line from Season 6 rule that teammates must be even. I has been stretched to 7/5 in the past. Just have to see what unfolds.

At the end of Leg 10, teams will have the following split.
Z/J   4/5
K/J   4/5
FT/BE   5/4
G/M  4/4 observed, they did use the Express Pass on one that Gary said he would do. How does Production score this one? So     
                could be a 5/4 split
K/V   4/5

If a 7/4 split is okay with Production.......then after this week, no team is in danger of someone HAVING to do a RB. If Production has told them that it must be a 6/5 split......then both teammates will have to do one of the remaining 2 RBs.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Jobby on May 01, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
I always remember the 7 RB (for season 10 and 16... not sure about others) was in place because there were 12 RBs in those 2 seasons.. with 11 this season.. it might really be 6-6.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DrRox on May 01, 2011, 01:20:12 PM
Not real sure, but I thought TAR 10 had 13 RBs, so the  7/6 split would be mandatory. I think that one of the RBs was not aired though, so we only saw 12.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on May 01, 2011, 01:21:18 PM
I think it was always a +1 for the unevenness or to account for FF's, etc

Not a 7/5 but in an 11 team season, not more than 1 more.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: jiajia12 on May 01, 2011, 08:12:22 PM
K/V stupid mistake cost them potential F3 once again. :lol3: :(

I assume Zev/Justin Gary/Mallory Jen/Kisha is Final 3

With Mallory winning reaction shown in the preview
and Zev's 'This is a big day' for them

2 horse race. basically.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: connayyy on May 01, 2011, 08:15:08 PM
edit: never mind  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Jobby on May 01, 2011, 08:19:01 PM
But i'm hoping for a 5th place for FT and BE, 4th for Zev and Justin and F3 of 3 underdogs teams... that'll be fun to watch. :lol3:

That would be my favourite F3 as well. And I agree with you Kisha and jen are almost non existent, we rarely see them at any length at tasks ans they have the fewer interviews 

Ditto, except I'd rather Z/J leave first :P

This is nothing personal but Zev has to do at least 1 to 2 more Roadblocks if the Roadblock count for this season is 6. (Do we know if it's 7?) Remember how Zev screwed up the Zodiac Roadblock in China? I don't know if it's fair to say this but whenever Zev's doing the Roadblock i'm pretty worried for the team if it's a tough RB.

Same for Mallory as well.. not saying that she's the slower one in the team, but she needs to do at least 1 to 2 more and it could be detrimental if it's a physical RB and Gary can't do it anymore.

But this is obviously not a problem for Vyxsin though.. she's like the man in the team. Vyxsin <3 :lol: :lol3:

Interesting point about both Zev & Mallory. I think that it will depend on the roadblock that is presented to them. We know each do it this time, so assuming both teams survive, it comes down to making the right choices. Gary & Mallory have it easier as they can pretty much figure out if the task will be physical or not. Zev & Justin have to decide when to risk putting Zev in. The past has been that the final roadblock involves a memory challenge of sorts. So for them it would be smart to do Zev, Justin, Zev.

I'm sorry but guess i'm right.. Zev's a problem for the team. Just like Kent is a Vyxsin for the Goths and did them in.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 01, 2011, 09:07:41 PM
What's gonna happen to this thread?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Dånooky on May 01, 2011, 09:14:39 PM
I say they rename it to "previous Finale discussion" and proceed to close it
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2011, 09:54:18 PM
This has been a great thread, full of excellent speculation on our spoilers, and will be a great reference tool.

But let's move onto the Finale episode threads now.

You can find Ep 11 (Brazil) here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25250.0.html

And Ep 12 (Florida Keys) here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,25251.0.html

See you there!! :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: JDoubleG on May 04, 2011, 02:22:32 AM
So far my prediction was right in the last episode, between zev & justin and kent & vyxsin, one of them will be eliminated (before i watch the show)!

I think the final 3 will most likely be a balance of team genders, male-male, male-female, and female-female teams.

Gary & Mallory - male-female team
Kisha & Jen - female-female team
Flight-Time & Big Easy and Zev & Justin - 2 male-male teams

I have a strong feeling that Gary & Mallory and Kisha & Jen will be in the final 3 (guaranteed), for Flight-Time & Big Easy and Zev & Justin, one goes home and the other joins Gary & Mallory and Kisha & Jen.

Since there is a pit stop and a finish line to win by 2 teams, it will be win by Gary & Mallory and Kisha & Jen. Whether Gary & Mallory win at the pit stop or the finish line, same goes for Kisha & Jen winning at the pit stop or the finish line.

Remember the last amazing race all-stars that is season 11 where Eric & Danielle get one 1st place finish that matters, the finish line and winning the million dollars

Since Kisha & Jen haven't win a first place finish yet, i think they'll make it first on the finish line to win the million dollars just like Eric & Danielle. Besides Gary & Mallory already won a million rupees in india... =D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Chase S on May 04, 2011, 11:23:50 AM
Based on the clues we've gotten, I predict the finish of the last teams will come in this order:

4th: Flight Time/Big Easy
3rd: Kisha/Jen
2nd: Gary/Mallory
Winners: Zev/Justin

...

This isn't why I believe this - in fact, I found this video after I decided on that placement, but watch Justin's body language after she asks them, "So obviously you can't tell us if you won or not...?"

To me, that seems like a complete giveaway.

I'd really like to be wrong and see Kisha and Jen win though. :P
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Chase S on May 04, 2011, 11:25:20 AM
The video didn't post for some reason.

Search "The Talk - Zev & Justin's 'Amazing Race' " on Youtube.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on May 04, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
I think that is in Zev and Justin's thread.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 04, 2011, 04:56:21 PM
Based on the clues we've gotten, I predict the finish of the last teams will come in this order:

4th: Flight Time/Big Easy
3rd: Kisha/Jen
2nd: Gary/Mallory
Winners: Zev/Justin

...

This isn't why I believe this - in fact, I found this video after I decided on that placement, but watch Justin's body language after she asks them, "So obviously you can't tell us if you won or not...?"

To me, that seems like a complete giveaway.

I'd really like to be wrong and see Kisha and Jen win though. :P

Zev & Justin didn't win...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: alextofu07 on May 05, 2011, 03:50:00 AM
i think Globetrotters and Kisha & Jen will be the final 3
we all see they are in the same photo in Miami
It is not possible to have one decoy and one final 3 at the same time
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 05, 2011, 07:18:26 AM
Cropping is totally warranted here.   :umn:   Because too much information too early can get us into too much trouble.  If you only knew what goes on behind the spoiler curtain.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sumWyFRSlE0/TEe3al37tUI/AAAAAAAAAPI/DbVjr02tF2M/s1600/DRTGrandma.jpg)

(http://i55.[banned image hosting site].com/29dbkzo.jpg)

:res: :lol3:   :waves:

So basically, the fact that you included the last pic, you are telling us that FT & BE win, right?  That SUCKS!  Not that we know who wins, but that it's FT & BE... They need another $MIL like I need a hole in the head...  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2011, 07:29:52 AM
Win or lose, Gallory all the way!  :jam:

:jam: :jam: :jam: :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Ruth on May 05, 2011, 07:59:30 AM
I'm just predicting that the Globetrotters will win the race. Zev and Justin have had the most first-place finishes, but their performance is rather erratic. They're good sometimes, and struggle at other times. And Zev with his constant whining... I'm not sure they have what it takes to pull off a final win.

Kisha and Jen... They haven't won a leg yet, and they don't seem to be getting much edit throughout the race so I doubt that they win.

Gary and Mallory were strong the first few legs after from the middle of the game when it was down to a few teams, it seemed like they kinda lost their footing and started falling behind in light of the strong competition around them. So I doubt that they win the race too.

Globetrotters have won a few legs, are pretty consistent and have got a way better edit than they did on their season. In fact, they're getting a pretty decent edit this season. They're strong and fast to boot, so I'm not surprised they end up winning. Just my two cents' worth.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on May 05, 2011, 08:10:23 AM
I'm just predicting that the Globetrotters will win the race. Zev and Justin have had the most first-place finishes, but their performance is rather erratic. They're good sometimes, and struggle at other times. And Zev with his constant whining... I'm not sure they have what it takes to pull off a final win.

Kisha and Jen... They haven't won a leg yet, and they don't seem to be getting much edit throughout the race so I doubt that they win.

Gary and Mallory were strong the first few legs after from the middle of the game when it was down to a few teams, it seemed like they kinda lost their footing and started falling behind in light of the strong competition around them. So I doubt that they win the race too.

Globetrotters have won a few legs, are pretty consistent and have got a way better edit than they did on their season. In fact, they're getting a pretty decent edit this season. They're strong and fast to boot, so I'm not surprised they end up winning. Just my two cents' worth.

Not so fast. There is nothing to say it is the Globetrotters 100%. I personaly think their edit this season has been much worse than last time. This season has really gone out of its way to show how sneaky they can be and how, without the help of other teams, their lost on their own.

Since Zev & Justin are out 4th, I'm rooting for my other pick, Kisha & Jennifer, to win it. Though it would also be nice to see Gary & Mallory win as well.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 05, 2011, 08:17:55 AM
I agree that it's looking more and more like the trotters are going to win based on what's been said already, and it now makes a lot more sense to me why kent and vyxsin sounded so bitter about them in their post-boot interviews, referring to them as big cowards and bullies. If they didn't end up winning the race, they probably wouldn't be so bothered by them this long after it took place cause it wouldn't have mattered in the end. However, if they went on to win the race, that would make perfect sense why they would be harboring this much resentment towards them.

They were whining about the Trotters being bullies when they were eliminated and it doesn't surprise me to see them whining about it to this day.  They will be whining about it forever... LOL
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2011, 08:44:07 AM
Here is a list of the Globetrotters placements throughout the season: 5, 2, 5, 6, 6, 7, 1, 2, 5, 1
They're not that consistent and they have definitely had their dumb moments. I just don't think CBS can afford to have them win since they have no fan base.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on May 05, 2011, 09:11:59 AM
I just don't think CBS can afford to have them win since they have no fan base.

WHAT?? ???  :groan: :res: :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2011, 09:13:04 AM
I just don't think CBS can afford to have them win since they have no fan base.

WHAT?? ???  :groan: :res: :duno:

They don't have a fan base.

(I guess I'm just desperate :lol:)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on May 05, 2011, 09:21:12 AM
Not having a fan mase  BASE has absolutely NOTHING to do with who wins or loses.


peach can't type, lol!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2011, 09:25:59 AM
I suppose I'm just grasping at straws. This is what I was trying to convey: Having the Globetrotters win this season would make the entire season a disappointment. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kgallant46 on May 05, 2011, 09:52:29 AM
I suppose I'm just grasping at straws. This is what I was trying to convey: Having the Globetrotters win this season would make the entire season a disappointment. :(

Welcome to my world!  I've been disappointed MOST seasons, except for last year.  And I think the Trotters have a fan base, maybe not as much as the Cowboys, but I think Trotter fans DO exist.

I personally don't care WHO wins.  I like all the teams in this F4 (and speculated F3), and I'd be happy if any of them win, including the Trotters.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 05, 2011, 09:53:37 AM
I suppose I'm just grasping at straws. This is what I was trying to convey: Having the Globetrotters win this season would make the entire season a disappointment. :(

I totally agree!  Boo Trotters! :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2011, 09:55:11 AM
I suppose I'm just grasping at straws. This is what I was trying to convey: Having the Globetrotters win this season would make the entire season a disappointment. :(

Welcome to my world!  I've been disappointed MOST seasons, except for last year.  And I think the Trotters have a fan base, maybe not as much as the Cowboys, but I think Trotter fans DO exist.

I personally don't care WHO wins.  I like all the teams in this F4 (and speculated F3), and I'd be happy if any of them win, including the Trotters.

That's a great attitude to have. It is good to enjoy the season and the show for what it is and be happy for whoever wins. I don't hate the trotters but they are the least of the remaining teams IMO.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kgallant46 on May 05, 2011, 10:05:07 AM
I suppose I'm just grasping at straws. This is what I was trying to convey: Having the Globetrotters win this season would make the entire season a disappointment. :(

Welcome to my world!  I've been disappointed MOST seasons, except for last year.  And I think the Trotters have a fan base, maybe not as much as the Cowboys, but I think Trotter fans DO exist.

I personally don't care WHO wins.  I like all the teams in this F4 (and speculated F3), and I'd be happy if any of them win, including the Trotters.

That's a great attitude to have. It is good to enjoy the season and the show for what it is and be happy for whoever wins. I don't hate the trotters but they are the least of the remaining teams IMO.

Thanks!  I'll admit the Trotters aren't the best racers, but they recognize their weaknesses and try to compensate for that by getting assistance from other teams.  If anything, we should "hate" the other teams that continue to give the Trotters the answers.  They can always ask, the other teams aren't obligated to give it to them!

I speculate the Trotters & Kisha/Jen for photo finish and Gallory in 3rd.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 05, 2011, 10:08:22 AM
i think Globetrotters and Kisha & Jen will be the final 3
we all see they are in the same photo in Miami
It is not possible to have one decoy and one final 3 at the same time

I think it's possible.  K/V, Cowboys, Cheeleaders were all photographed in that airport about the same time as GT and K/J... If the other teams were running decoy, it would make sense to place them amongst the ones still in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: speedrace on May 05, 2011, 10:18:48 AM
In my opinion, the globetrotters are not guranteed to win the race. All 4 teams stand a good chance as well. And yes, I feel Zev and Justin are still in the running to win the race even though there is no screencaps of them in florida, that doesn't 100% mean they are the 4th out.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Chase S on May 05, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
^That and just because Kisha/Jen and FT/BE were spotted together in the airport doesn't mean that they both have to be of the same status.

CBS can just choose not to air the footage where they appeared together.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: DavidJunior on May 05, 2011, 12:40:30 PM
I don't get how K/J not winning a leg yet automatically decides that they can't win in the final?

They have been pretty consistent the entire race.  They never fell below 6th place as opposed to every other team still in it, they've never been in any real danger of being eliminated as opposed to everyone else, and they've been steadily improving as the race has continued on.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mds1978 on May 05, 2011, 07:32:44 PM
Yes, K/J have been consistent throughout this race. Consistently never the first to arrive.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 07, 2011, 03:54:03 PM
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 07, 2011, 04:01:27 PM
:jumpy: This is great news to hear, Will! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: LoveRocked on May 07, 2011, 04:04:42 PM
YAY!! Gary and Mallory are WIN!!! YAHOOO!!  :hearts:  :yess: :jumpy: Thanks for sharing!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kinibug on May 07, 2011, 04:32:23 PM
I don't think you should take that as a confirmation,seeing as it's a prediction.However,I do think they have been getting the winners edit lol.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: slayton on May 07, 2011, 10:36:15 PM
I've learned to never attempt to predict who makes the finals ever again, but I'm sticking with my instincts about Zev & Justin winning, despite speculation about episode 11. 

I thought the show telegraphed their victory from a mile away, particularly the first three episodes.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2011, 01:29:48 AM
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!

I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)

 :future
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Tobertz on May 08, 2011, 01:38:13 AM
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!

And I want to be your apprentice Murtz! =) It's time for a parent-child team to win!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: eddiethejet on May 08, 2011, 01:40:34 AM
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!

I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)

 :future

i take that as a yes.  LOL
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: alextofu07 on May 08, 2011, 01:45:21 AM
i hope his prediction is wrong
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2011, 01:48:42 AM
moving all predictions to the Finale Speculation thread.
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!

I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)

 :future

i take that as a yes.  LOL


I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's AND Eddie's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mds1978 on May 08, 2011, 02:03:07 AM
The only thing that seems odd to me is that there's been no mention at any pit stop of being the first child-parent team to win...last season they frequently reminded viewers that no f/f team had ever won, which made it all the more exciting and significant when it eventually happened. However, mallory has had so many "deep thoughts underscored by emotional music" moments, but I still think there would have been at least ONE reference to the historic nature of a father/daughter team win...that's the only reason I'm still not yet convinced.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: eddiethejet on May 08, 2011, 02:09:08 AM
once kent and vyxsin got the can, i decided that i would be ok with any of the 4 teams winning since kent was the only one i couldnt stand this season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: alextofu07 on May 08, 2011, 02:11:28 AM
http://thefutoncritic.com/interviews/2011/02/18/interview-the-amazing-race-host-phil-keoghan-702103/20110218_amazingrace/#ixzz1EIzTd86S

It seems that Phil predict the final results correctly
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: eddiethejet on May 08, 2011, 02:13:00 AM
they have mentioned SEVERAL times that gary is by far the oldest racer left.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: alextofu07 on May 08, 2011, 02:16:44 AM
http://thefutoncritic.com/interviews/2011/02/18/interview-the-amazing-race-host-phil-keoghan-702103/20110218_amazingrace/#ixzz1EIzTd86S

It seems that Phil's prediction is correct
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 08, 2011, 07:17:49 AM
The only thing that seems odd to me is that there's been no mention at any pit stop of being the first child-parent team to win...last season they frequently reminded viewers that no f/f team had ever won, which made it all the more exciting and significant when it eventually happened. However, mallory has had so many "deep thoughts underscored by emotional music" moments, but I still think there would have been at least ONE reference to the historic nature of a father/daughter team win...that's the only reason I'm still not yet convinced.

You mean they always reminded us that a female/female team has never won?  Meghan and Cheyne won and they had won a FF as well.  So did Uchina (sp?) and Joyce...

I think it would be so awesome to finally see a parent/child team win! Go Gallory!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2011, 07:22:59 AM
Nat and Kat, Dan and Jordan, Meghan and Cheyne, Nick and Starr, BJ and Tyler, and Uchenna and Joyce all won Fast Forwards in their seasons. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 08, 2011, 07:28:06 AM
Nat and Kat, Dan and Jordan, Meghan and Cheyne, Nick and Starr, BJ and Tyler, and Uchenna and Joyce all won Fast Forwards in their seasons. :tup:

Thanks Prophet!  Your memory is a lot better than mine! LOL  :gj:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2011, 07:29:42 AM
There's probably more from the earlier seasons but I would have to look it up. I can't remember that far.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: NoluckBoston on May 08, 2011, 10:42:40 AM
The only thing that seems odd to me is that there's been no mention at any pit stop of being the first child-parent team to win...


Actually there have been three times. I caught Ron and Christina saying it twice and after they were eliminated Mallory mentioned how great it would be.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 08, 2011, 10:49:04 AM
moving all predictions to the Finale Speculation thread.
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!

I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)

 :future

i take that as a yes.  LOL


I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's AND Eddie's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)


Peach, I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Murtz is finally wrong for once! So far his record is intact so we shall see if it continues or if his streak is finally broken!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on May 08, 2011, 10:55:44 AM
The only thing that seems odd to me is that there's been no mention at any pit stop of being the first child-parent team to win...


Actually there have been three times. I caught Ron and Christina saying it twice and after they were eliminated Mallory mentioned how great it would be.


I also think being the first parent/child team hasn't been as important as it was for all all female team
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: amazingracer24 on May 08, 2011, 11:02:33 AM
Look at these pics....
ZEV & JUSTIN are both in the middle?!!!!
does this mean they won?!

(pictures were taken from the 10year anniversary of TAR in Miami)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Jobby on May 08, 2011, 11:12:06 AM
If we have the other angle, it'll tell better. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: speedrace on May 08, 2011, 11:58:43 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20487925,00.html

A lil read for you guys.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: speedrace on May 08, 2011, 12:51:34 PM
Short Clip of them at Miami.

http://yfrog.com/44tjez
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2011, 01:01:10 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20487925,00.html

A lil read for you guys.

Well, in the picture that goes with this article, Gary and Mallory are slightly in the middle and Big Easy is pointing at them. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Squall16 on May 08, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20487925,00.html

A lil read for you guys.

Has anyone read what Zev and Justin say in this?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Squall16 on May 08, 2011, 01:02:08 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20487925,00.html

A lil read for you guys.

Well, in the picture that goes with this article, Gary and Mallory are slightly in the middle and Big Easy is pointing at them. :lol3:

Or he is saying 'we're number one'. Which i hope isn't true....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Squall16 on May 08, 2011, 01:05:14 PM
Short Clip of them at Miami.

http://yfrog.com/44tjez

Zev and Justin are in the front. White blazar for zev and justin kneeling. Phil says phileminated... so what does that mean?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: north09 on May 08, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
Look at these pics....
ZEV & JUSTIN are both in the middle?!!!!
does this mean they won?!

(pictures were taken from the 10year anniversary of TAR in Miami)

As happy as that would make me, the winning team isn't always in the middle of the bottom row. They have been known to appear in the center of the top. However, the angle seems to have Mel & Mike in that position. As of now, I'm at peace with 4th place.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: amazing race fan on May 08, 2011, 01:15:18 PM
moving all predictions to the Finale Speculation thread.
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!

I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)

 :future

i take that as a yes.  LOL


I guess you all will find out Sunday if Murtz's AND Eddie's spoiler predictiions are correct. ;)


Peach, I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Murtz is finally wrong for once! So far his record is intact so we shall see if it continues or if his streak is finally broken!

Does this guy actually have spoilers or has he just been picking the winners from his best guess?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2011, 01:16:22 PM
Does this guy actually have spoilers or has he just been picking the winners from his best guess?

He's never been wrong about a TAR winner. I don't think he has spoilers, though. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: sox15 on May 08, 2011, 05:36:00 PM


@justin_kanew
justin kanew
One of these women may be $500,000 richer tonight... @malloryervin @JenMarieHoffman @AmazingRace_CBS yfrog.com/gyq8pxmj

Pic of Jen and Mallory was below it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: mds1978 on May 08, 2011, 11:49:02 PM
Murtz Jaffer just tweeted his prediction of who wins TAR18. He has NEVER been wrong with his predictions of all seasons of TAR and Survivor and was only wrong once with The Apprentice (Annie vs Joan)

According to him, The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business winners are.......

GARY AND MALLORY ERVIN!

FAIL!!!!

Looks like Murtz just had his Reality Steve moment, becoming the latest reality tv prognosticator with the supposedly unblemished record of predicting the winner failing miserably.

I love that this season wasn't spoiled (peach, if you knew the true outcome, MAJOR props to you for never giving it away, that must have taken a lot of restraint to keep such a surprising outcome under wraps all this time). I got frustrated earlier at times that more spoilers about the outcome weren't revealed, but honestly it was the absolute best decision.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: JDoubleG on May 08, 2011, 11:50:04 PM
Am i a great in prediction or what? i knew that between Gary & Mallory and Kisha & Jen - one of them will win the race and i say Kisha & Jen win the race because they haven't win a leg yet but now they do at the finish line just like Eric and Danielle in Season 11 where they win only once that is the finish line, and i'm right!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: kgallant46 on May 09, 2011, 01:51:12 AM
Congrats to Kisha/Jen for winning AR18!!

Now, I wonder if anyone will say they received the  "winners' edit"???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: NumfarPTB on May 09, 2011, 04:49:08 AM
It was in the end an interesting ending after all.
Both teams that almost got to run to the finish line in their previous seasons pulled a Dustin a Kandince, actually getting to run to the finish line this time around, and Kisha and Jen actually accomplished what they could not.
Reflecting now, from the 11 teams cast, only 4 of them never got to run the final leg (Goths, Zev/Justin, Amanda/Kris and Mel/Mike).

Loved the fact that most of the time during final leg, teams were really closed together, if weren't for bad Taxi that Gary and Mallory got it would have been a way closer race. But it bothers me that final task was not a more race related memory task.

Can't remember if there were another team that actually won the race without winning a single leg during the race. But congrats to Kisha and Jen.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: alextofu07 on May 09, 2011, 05:32:38 AM
It was in the end an interesting ending after all.
Both teams that almost got to run to the finish line in their previous seasons pulled a Dustin a Kandince, actually getting to run to the finish line this time around, and Kisha and Jen actually accomplished what they could not.
Reflecting now, from the 11 teams cast, only 4 of them never got to run the final leg (Goths, Zev/Justin, Amanda/Kris and Mel/Mike).

Loved the fact that most of the time during final leg, teams were really closed together, if weren't for bad Taxi that Gary and Mallory got it would have been a way closer race. But it bothers me that final task was not a more race related memory task.

Can't remember if there were another team that actually won the race without winning a single leg during the race. But congrats to Kisha and Jen.

That team is Eric & Danielle in season 11
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Lucybell on May 09, 2011, 06:35:09 AM
FAIL!!! I love that this season wasn't spoiled (peach, if you knew the true outcome, MAJOR props to you for never giving it away, that must have taken a lot of restraint to keep such a surprising outcome under wraps all this time). I got frustrated earlier at times that more spoilers about the outcome weren't revealed, but honestly it was the absolute best decision.

See, I don't get it... If someone doesn't like spoilers, why do they come to spoiler sights and rejoice in NOT being spoiled? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: Prophet on May 09, 2011, 07:11:20 AM
Unfortunately Martz Jaffer met an even more unmoveable force known as probability. He has to get one wrong eventually.  :lol:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Finale speculation and discussion
Post by: slayton on May 09, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
I have to give the editors credit where credit is due; they did a good job with obfuscating Kisha & Jen's win.