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Title: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 02:41:47 PM
Even though we are a spoiler board, we do NOT want to have the episode spoiled while it is airing.

If you are watching anything but an EST US feed, it is your responsibility to be sure you are not ahead of us if you want to post in this thread. Canadian and Asian satellite feeds are often way ahead of us.

 SO PLEASE ** NO WIKI UPDATES or Satellite Viewer updates** to be posted before the show is done airing East Coast time! Anyone breaking the rule is at risk of being banned. 

Otherwise, come watch with us for the best weekly viewing party in town!! :party:

I hope to have a live steam or at least links  posted  HERE  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23401.new.html#new). For those who are not on the East Coast time, you can follow along and PLEASE help update as the show unfolds! Everyone is more than welcomed and appreciated!! :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 14, 2010, 05:43:11 PM
I'm in one of those US east coast feed markets with a late CBS game this week.  As soon as I know how long the overrun is, I'll pass that on.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: ZBC Company on November 14, 2010, 06:12:29 PM
no delay here
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 14, 2010, 06:37:53 PM
The delay is about 34 to 35 minutes for those few markets that had the late game and get the east coast feed. ZBC, I'm fully aware that most of the markets getting the CBS east coast feed are on time.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: mswood on November 14, 2010, 06:41:55 PM
I haven't been able to connect to a live feed, so I wont be able to contribute tonight.  I will keep trying though.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: GreenNegg on November 14, 2010, 06:45:39 PM
I haven't been able to connect to a live feed, so I wont be able to contribute tonight.  I will keep trying though.

You mean from the live streaming video links?
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: kwando1313 on November 14, 2010, 06:50:02 PM
Is Andy telling another tale?
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: TexasLady on November 14, 2010, 06:51:12 PM
I'm in one of those US east coast feed markets with a late CBS game this week.  As soon as I know how long the overrun is, I'll pass that on.

Thanks!  :tup:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:07:43 PM
recap

Teams at travel agent!

It IS Chad and Steph sleeping in!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:09:46 PM
2 hours late to their release, they just "zonked out"

flashbacks of their fighting

No seats on the Amsterdam (fastest flight)

B/C and K/N on early flight

C/S get one that gets in only 10 min after 2nd fliht

B/C get ist cab in Oman
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:11:08 PM
Teams get ingots engraved w/ a time

K/N
B/C
J/T
C/S
G/M
N/V
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:11:33 PM
Sunrise at the park
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Chad wants to propose
Proposal, Mom's ring...

commercial :lol:

SOMEBODY HELP UPDATE PLEASE?? I type at the speed of a turtle.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on November 14, 2010, 07:13:51 PM
Looks like Chad's about to propose to Stephanie.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:17:08 PM
DRive to base of Jabal Shams...safety driver takes them to top

Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:17:46 PM
Every one having trouble finding it

N/V 5th
G/M last??
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:18:26 PM
Nick fussing at Vic for sharing info
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:18:42 PM
Chad Steph arr first!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
Goats

wHO WANTS TO ADD MAGIC TO THEIR LIFE??

Rapel 500 feet, find aladin's lamp, take ring to dude
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:20:26 PM
Chad first

omg...

Jill Thomas second, Jill takes it
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:21:06 PM
Jill has fear of heights, not looking down

Chad looking for ring
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:22:04 PM
Jill oh oh oh oh

N/K looking fgor the place

G/M lost

Jill can't believe I just did that

Chad has ring
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:24:34 PM
Drive yourself to giant stack of books in Nizwa??sp

Jill has ring

N/V arrive>>Vic takes it, only scared of bugs, :lol:

B/C next, Claire takes it!

Nat Kat way lost

G/M way lost, Mallory praying, would hate to go out like this

Vic I feel like spiderwoman>.really fun!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:27:09 PM
C/S to book stack, still first

Detour

abundance

Water table>>pump water truck, look for house

Weddng table, buy ingred for wedding dish, market, take to bride and groom

J/T 2nd

both to do water table

Vic finds ring, 3rd..B/C 4th

N/V flat tire
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:27:53 PM
commecial...please someone give a girl a hand?? :lol:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on November 14, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
I guess Gary & Mallory are going home this leg.  They're really lost.  They & Nat & Kat should've asked for directions sooner.  I guess the maps were really bad.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
nICK PISSED, CHANGING TIRE

g/m HOPING THEY CAN NMAKE UP THE TIME
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on November 14, 2010, 07:32:51 PM
LOL......its a water truck.....not an ore hauler.....well heck.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:33:49 PM
Water trucks, pump water, fill up a truck

J/T there, motor started w/ string

Deliver water, C/S first to leave with full truck

J/T looking, Jill directing

B/C choose water too

Kat at RB>>
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:34:55 PM
C/S having trouble finding their delivery house

J/T find a fern to take them

N/V, and B/C doing H2O
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:35:24 PM
Kat doing RB, glad she did it!!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
J/T at their house, Chad/Steph find a fern

J/T's fern is the cousin of the house!!

Pumping in the water
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:37:36 PM
J/T in first

C/S frustrated cuz J/T weasel their way ahead
 (their words in confessional)
Off to market to find Ali Baba

C/S find their house in 2nd
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:38:09 PM
N/V and B/C to trucks
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:39:19 PM
Kat looking for ring, needle in a haystack

G/M have been driving for NINE hours!!

Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:39:45 PM
Kat confused w/lamps

commercial
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on November 14, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
Kat confused w/lamps

commercial

Which means she'll find it when we come back from commercial.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on November 14, 2010, 07:41:54 PM
Go Peach! :hearts: (Cheering is all I can do now, sorry)
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:42:14 PM
C/S may have passed J/T, anyway they are neck and neck..

Whew, I miss you mswood!!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on November 14, 2010, 07:43:25 PM
Go Chad and Stephanie! Beat those boresnores! :hearts:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:43:50 PM
I feel like Jen...I need a pee break!! :lol3:
walked into my house 10 min before the race. :lol:

TMI?  :-[
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:45:17 PM
Back

Kat can't find ring...finally does!!

Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:47:10 PM
G/M in last

Mallory to do RB

J/T in major big souk, looking for frankicense soup??

Taking it to Ali Baba

Mallory having fun at rappell, looking for magic lantern

B/C get water>>done!

N/V in 4th??

Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:49:08 PM
Mallory found ring, says leg has been so long

Palce El-Amin?? sp is Pitstop

J/T following a taxi

N/K do water

J/T FIRST!!! However...30 min penalty because of following cab
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:49:31 PM
Chad/Steph....FIRST!!!!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:49:49 PM
Win trip to Belize!!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zack. on November 14, 2010, 07:50:07 PM
Is it me, or is there a missing task? There's a fairly obvious break when everyone is saying 'Hit the road' and 'Drive yourselves to the Muttrah Souq'.

HOWEVER! YES!

"You cannot pay a taxi driver to lead you to a location." If this is a permanent rule I LOVE TAR.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:51:07 PM
Conf>.S couldn't be any better, I got engaged! Perfect day

J/T team 2 but sad faces

B/C go wrong way down one way street>>police come!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:52:31 PM
N/V in souk

Vic: take to Ali Baba in suit?? (souk) :lol:

N/V in 3rd

G/M to water task

DARK out there!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:53:07 PM
N/V and B/c racing for 3rd

N/V team 3!!

B/C in 4th

Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: mswood on November 14, 2010, 07:54:12 PM
Yeah I do think its a new rule and its one thats been a long time coming.

Its also a mistake that fans who watch all the seasons could easily forget as it the default thing to try when you want to keep a lead, or you are hopelessly lost.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:55:33 PM
N/K doing water, Say it is the best shower they have had in a couple of days

G/M have truck

N/K looking for Ali Baba

G/M too

Both in dark looking for palace

neck and neck

Race to Pitstop

N/K 5th!!




Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:56:08 PM
G/M Last, eliminated :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 07:56:54 PM
Mallory cries, Dad taught her to go after her dreams

Preview: coming
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on November 14, 2010, 07:59:14 PM
I'm really sorry for Gary & Mallory, but I'm happier that Nat & Kat are still in the Race!

And for once, I liked Chad & Stephanie!  That said, Chad will get back to annoying me soon enough.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:01:09 PM
Preview:

Bangladesh@!!

AMAZING RACE FIRST!

Double U Turn!!

J/T UTurning someone


Well, at least this was more fun than updating BB! :lol:

Sorry I am so bad at this though...:groan:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Will have the preview and caps up later, we have a time delay. :lol:

:waves:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on November 14, 2010, 08:03:24 PM
Double U-Turn huh? Looks like they've been reading Dan's fantasy game. :lol:

Good job Peach! :hearts:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: BayBay on November 14, 2010, 08:04:03 PM
Double U-Turn???
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: mswood on November 14, 2010, 08:08:57 PM
I'm really sorry for Gary & Mallory, but I'm happier that Nat & Kat are still in the Race!

And for once, I liked Chad & Stephanie!  That said, Chad will get back to annoying me soon enough.

Belle Book

I have actually liked everyone (though I haven't seen this episode yet) to various degrees.  I haven't liked Nick when he gets too frustrated, and I didn't care for many of the remarks from Rachel & Katie but they were always done within their team so I give that a lot more latitude.


And you would pick Chad & Stephanie and Jill & THomas as the "typical" fighting couple that gets cast.  But you compare the footage we have had of them to the footage we have of those "fighting" couples from and they don't seemed to be fighting at all.  just typical couples getting a little stressed out by the other, which is absolutely normal behavior.

Thats one of the huge pluses for me this season.  Just can't say how much nicer that makes things.  Of course the race isn't over yet and the pressure only gets worse.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: mswood on November 14, 2010, 08:09:52 PM
Will have the preview and caps up later, we have a time delay. :lol:

:waves:
You did great, thank you so much Peach! 

Hugs and kisses to your naughty parts!!!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:12:01 PM
:<3

You better find us a live kink for next week!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on November 14, 2010, 08:14:25 PM
I think the cab following penalty has been around for a while......I dont remember any in 16 or 15.....
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zack. on November 14, 2010, 08:15:05 PM
It looked like Brook/Claire's picture on the U-Turn board when Nick/Vicki were there. I guess B/C get U-Turned by J/T then.  :duno:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
My guess would be that J/T might UTurn C/S..they seem to have a rivalry going...as per Steph comment re them weaseling in..
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zvarri on November 14, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
I hate how they showed us which teams actually used the U-Turn on the preview.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 08:22:26 PM
Suggests J/T and N/V do...
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 14, 2010, 08:54:59 PM
I've been suspicious that leg 9 would be the last NEL when I heard it would be the Bangladesh leg; seeing a new form of U-Turn that affects two teams (presumably), reinforces that suspicion.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on November 14, 2010, 09:00:37 PM
I've been suspicious that leg 9 would be the last NEL when I heard it would be the Bangladesh leg; seeing a new form of U-Turn that affects two teams (presumably), reinforces that suspicion.

Same exact thoughts here.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2010, 10:37:57 PM
I think (not know :lol: ) that it might be HK....
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Vitoko on November 14, 2010, 11:02:24 PM
Just watched it via youtube... don't know how it was uploaded so fast :O

I think is the first time that C/S don't annoyed me... and didn't notice how competitive were J/T (BTW always read this as Justin and Tyler, and don't know who the heck are they  :lol:)

It was a fun leg to watch, but now I wonder how N/K will be able to catch up now!

And N/V are getting better at this... i'm impressed

PS: Gotta love the clue eater goat :D
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on November 14, 2010, 11:38:58 PM
Wait, did Mallory try to imitate Brook/Claire by wearing a pink dress and a pink bandana, or is it just me? ???
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on November 15, 2010, 12:46:23 AM
I think (not know :lol: ) that it might be HK....

I use numerology......lol     3,6,9.........
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Dånooky on November 15, 2010, 01:33:35 AM
At the moment C&S's status changed from Newly Dating to Engaged, it felt like playing the Sims...
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 15, 2010, 09:45:11 AM
Gosh, i know it sucks for some that Chad and Stephanie overslept but still managed to get into Oman anyway together with the other teams. But seriously, you gotta give them props for being cool headed for the entire leg! I don't know why, but it seems when you're cool and calm, you generally do really really very well. (Nat and Kat ahem, although they're in almost last.. I really had no idea how they still managed to be so calm)

I think my favourite moment of the season so far, is when Chad and Stephanie's relationship status changed from Newly Dating to Engaged. I mean, this is the first time ever that happened right? And they did it at such a precise way and moment which i think was really appropriate and i got teary a little. It's just so sweet how TAR can change lives and bring people closer together.. and a big big reason why i love TAR more than Survivor because you don't often see relationship like that on Survivor except with maybe.. Romber.

I was rooting for Chad and Stephanie the entire time after i was so shocked they arrived at the Roadblock first and Chad even completed first! Frustrated i was when they fell to second place for Detour.. and when Jill and Thomas's faces were shown first on the screen running towards Phil.. i was still hoping for a penalty because i thought something was amiss... AND GUESS WHAT?? JILL AND THOMAS GOT A FREAKING PENALTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :neener: I was clapping my hands in excitement and awe and nothing beats seeing Chad and Stephanie arriving at the pitstop within the 30 minutes time frame and won a TRIP to Belize! How apt that it could be their honeymoon trip!!!

The entire leg might be very predictable for some, especially if we know who's not in the final three, but the fact that the 1st and 2nd place teams and the 3rd and 4th place teams kept swopping positions was exciting enough for me! The Roadblock, although was the second repelling-style challenge this season, was really cool! I never knew Oman was this beautiful! Awesome much! I wished somebody did the other side of the Detour though, it would have been really good to see a traditional Oman wedding and feast being made.. but oh well, you can't always have everything you want.

Love the race so far, didn't expect myself to be rooting for Chad and Stephanie at all from the beginning of the race. Love Brooke and Claire, shocked that Nat and Kat were lagging behind the entire leg, getting abit annoyed by Nick but still love Vicki.. and saddened by the fact that Gary and Mallory were eliminated. I just wished that on the 3 legs they got 2nd, they managed to win a leg.. could have been more memorable for such a nice team like then.

Until then, FINAL 5. 2 all-female teams and 3 couples still in the race. This race can't get any better.

But what's up with Double U-TURN. I mean okay, 2 teams instead of one will be in trouble... but that means actually only one team will not be affected? At the final 5?? -_- Not fun at all. Maybe it will play out to be good. But seriously i don't think so.. but i shall not think too much about it until i really see it then.

 :hearts: TAR 17!!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on November 15, 2010, 10:06:59 AM
Just watched it via youtube... don't know how it was uploaded so fast :O

I think is the first time that C/S don't annoyed me... and didn't notice how competitive were J/T (BTW always read this as Justin and Tyler, and don't know who the heck are they  :lol:)

It was a fun leg to watch, but now I wonder how N/K will be able to catch up now!

And N/V are getting better at this... i'm impressed

PS: Gotta love the clue eater goat :D

Two words as to how Nat & Kat will be able to catch up:  airport flights.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 15, 2010, 10:59:26 AM
Anyway, i didn't like how Nat and Kat and Gary and Mallory arrived at the market with only 2 stores open... the one they have to find to direct them to the Ali Baba in a Suiq and the one where they will receive their next clue.

How did they fell so far behind? :'(
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 15, 2010, 11:29:16 AM
Gary and Mallory themselves said in the episode they spent 9 hours drving around and getting lost before they found the location for the roadblock.  If you think about it a moment, they reached that task at dusk, just about the same time Chad and Stephanie reached the pit stop. (There was more ambient light when Jill and Thomas arrived and received the penalty.)

I'm surprised Gary and Mallory escaped receiving the pity clue directing them to the pit stop before the leg was completed.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Ruth on November 15, 2010, 11:36:02 AM
LOL at Chad and Stephanie for oversleeping! Like... On the Amazing Race? It was really funny though. Even funnier how they eventually caught up to the other teams and went on to win the leg! Wow! And that proposal moment... That was really sweet. I was really touched. And the fact that Stephanie accepted Chad so readily... Makes me think he ain't that bad of a guy eh. I mean, we always see Chad yelling at Stephanie, but seeing that she didn't question the relationship at all, it could be just editing that's intensifying Chad, making him a nasty guy. Cos I really grew to like them as the race progressed. I was hoping they'd win the leg! But when Jill and Thomas caught up towards the end, I was bummed. Who knew that Jill and Thomas had a penalty! I didn't see that coming, I didn't know it was wrong to hire a cab. But I was like... YAY! Such an awesome leg for Chad and Stephanie. Their joy when they were given first place was great as well. Love them now!

This was another exciting leg in my opinion. The first two teams kept switching positions. The third and fourth place teams kept switching as well. I was hoping that Brook and Claire would beat Nick and Vicki to the pit-stop but oh well, it's okay I guess. I'm getting really annoyed by Nick. He needs to stop being so harsh to Vicki! Ugh.

I remember Nat and Kat saying in their pre-race interview that they aren't great at navigation. We got to see that this leg I guess... Second-to-last? I thought that they'd completely picked themselves up since the Ghana legs. I guess they got lost like Gary and Mallory, but were lucky that the latter got hopelessly lost. If it hadn't been for them making a graver mistake, Nat and Kat would have been out.

Tearful goodbyes from Gary and Mallory... I'll bet Phil was sad to see them go too. I thought I saw tears in his eyes! I was really sad to see them go as well. They've generally been performing quite well, until they got hopelessly lost this leg and never could catch up. But as I always say, when the number of teams is reduced to such a small group, no one can afford to make even the slightest mistake. Well... I hope they make it to All-Stars! Hee.

I can't wait for next week's episode. Double U-Turn, wow!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: theschnauzers on November 15, 2010, 11:38:04 AM
Joab, I've been saying for several legs now that this edition has had the feel of the early editions of TAR, which in my view is a complement. I haven't tried to cheer for any team this time around, other than wanting teams to race well and not make stupid mistakes; and tthere have been a ton of those this time around.  But it also means that if a team realizes what they are doing wrong and fixes them, then they recover and race well.....which is the story this leg of Chad and Stephanie.
I'm not bothered by the fact that they haven't been dating long.  After all, we all have heard of couples that came together and quickly realized they were made for each other. Chad has grown in these few legs of the Race, and I suspect his decision to propose in the hills of Oman was a nearly spontaneous one; if you look at the reaction of the other Racers who were sitting there and watching they thought it was a good thing, so it much have been obvious to those who had been around Chad and Stephanie that they were a good relationship fit.
I'm also impressed that the producers have made much more of an effort to keep Phil informed this season...he already knew about Jill and Thomas violation of the rule about hiring taxis to lead teams (which was on the way to the pit stop) before they reached the mat. Another indication perhaps, that they had more budget this time around, and more PA's around to help keep TPTB informed along the way.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 15, 2010, 11:42:13 AM
Joab, I've been saying for several legs now that this edition has had the feel of the early editions of TAR, which in my view is a complement. I haven't tried to cheer for any team this time around, other than wanting teams to race well and not make stupid mistakes; and tthere have been a ton of those this time around.  But it also means that if a team realizes what they are doing wrong and fixes them, then they recover and race well.....which is the story this leg of Chad and Stephanie.
I'm not bothered by the fact that they haven't been dating long.  After all, we all have heard of couples that came together and quickly realized they were made for each other. Chad has grown in these few legs of the Race, and I suspect his decision to propose in the hills of Oman was a nearly spontaneous one; if you look at the reaction of the other Racers who were sitting there and watching they thought it was a good thing, so it much have been obvious to those who had been around Chad and Stephanie that they were a good relationship fit.
I'm also impressed that the producers have made much more of an effort to keep Phil informed this season...he already knew about Jill and Thomas violation of the rule about hiring taxis to lead teams (which was on the way to the pit stop) before they reached the mat. Another indication perhaps, that they had more budget this time around, and more PA's around to help keep TPTB informed along the way.

I couldn't help to agree more. The last time i felt so excited and wanted to rush back home every Monday to watch TAR was for Season 14. And Phil himself did mentioned before that Season 14 felt like TAR 1,3,5 and 7 all over again. I wondered if he felt the same for Season 17. Quoting Phil (if i never remember wrongly), "There's something magical about this season".
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: DrRox on November 15, 2010, 02:38:46 PM
Anyway, i didn't like how Nat and Kat and Gary and Mallory arrived at the market with only 2 stores open... the one they have to find to direct them to the Ali Baba in a Suiq and the one where they will receive their next clue.

How did they fell so far behind? :'(

Joab,
It is about a 3 hour drive from Muttah to Jebell Shams. I think I heard Gary say that they went to the wrong north side of the canyon. N/K could have done the same thing. It is a long way to get to the south side where the drivers were. Then a 3 hour drive back to Muttah for the Souq. So that would make a total of at least 6 hours driving if they were all perfect just getting there and getting back.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Prophet on November 15, 2010, 04:51:28 PM
Anyway, i didn't like how Nat and Kat and Gary and Mallory arrived at the market with only 2 stores open... the one they have to find to direct them to the Ali Baba in a Suiq and the one where they will receive their next clue.

How did they fell so far behind? :'(

Joab,
It is about a 3 hour drive from Muttah to Jebel Shams. I think I heard Gary say that they went to the wrong side of the canyon. N/K could have done the same thing. It is a long way to get to the other side where the drivers were. Then a 3 hour drive back to Muttah for the Souq. So that would make a total of at least 6 hours driving if they were all perfect just getting there and getting back.

It makes a lot of sense that they could have gone to the wrong side of the canyon. That would be an easy mistake and to make and very hard to correct.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Belle Book on November 15, 2010, 07:29:37 PM
Anyway, i didn't like how Nat and Kat and Gary and Mallory arrived at the market with only 2 stores open... the one they have to find to direct them to the Ali Baba in a Suiq and the one where they will receive their next clue.

How did they fell so far behind? :'(

Joab,
It is about a 3 hour drive from Muttah to Jebell Shams. I think I heard Gary say that they went to the wrong side of the canyon. N/K could have done the same thing. It is a long way to get to the other side where the drivers were. Then a 3 hour drive back to Muttah for the Souq. So that would make a total of at least 6 hours driving if they were all perfect just getting there and getting back.

I wonder if the maps were really bad.  Nat & Kat mentioned that the map they were using seemed rather vague.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Neobie on November 15, 2010, 08:35:00 PM
A road sign when Gary/Mallory decide they have to turn back shows "Al Teekah: 10km". That puts them on Highway 13, right at the turn-off to the (other) road that leads to Jebel Shams.

Lonely Planet has this to say: "Although the mountain part of the route is only 70km long, it takes about 4h to drive and a 4WD is essential to negotiate the sustained, off-road descent to Wadi Bani Awf. This route passes through remote, rugged country and you should take the necessary precautions."

Hence the "That road? That's not good." by the folks from which Gary/Mallory were asking directions. Looks like it requires a complete backtrack to get back on track too...
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Jobby on November 16, 2010, 02:58:02 AM
I don't know.. i think the producers could have put signs on the road to lead them there? I mean, self-driving is good.. but if you have different ways to get there and such a big mountain, for race purposes wouldn't it be better to not have teams getting lost for like.. 9 hours?

Gary and Mallory and Nat and Kat were actually not lost in terms of directions.. they're near the mountain and can see the mountain, they just got to the wrong side of it.. which is like a 50% chance of getting on the right route or wrong route, depending on which one you choose.. because the Roadblock location can be on any side?

I thought the both teams were lost because they went completely off course in the wrong direction. Turn out they fell behind because they picked the wrong route to drive to the mountain?? Kinda saddening.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zack. on November 16, 2010, 01:56:11 PM
After rewatching, I'm still curious about this:

Is it me, or is there a missing task [after the Detour]? There's a fairly obvious break when everyone is saying 'Hit the road' and 'Drive yourselves to the Muttrah Souq'.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on November 16, 2010, 05:48:30 PM
After rewatching, I'm still curious about this:

Is it me, or is there a missing task [after the Detour]? There's a fairly obvious break when everyone is saying 'Hit the road' and 'Drive yourselves to the Muttrah Souq'.

I don't think so Zack. Unless they are so good in editing, but I think there isn't. I would have read it the same way too, "Hit the road" ... pause .... "Drive yourselves to Muttrah Souq."
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Neobie on November 16, 2010, 06:09:49 PM
I don't think so Zack. Unless they are so good in editing, but I think there isn't. I would have read it the same way too, "Hit the road" ... pause .... "Drive yourselves to Muttrah Souq."

There's definitely something going on. The clue shown doesn't show "Hit the road" which every team reads out, but starts immediately with "Drive yourselves to the Muttrah Souq..."

Here's how the splices worked out for each team:
Jill: "Drive yourselves to Muttrah Souq"
Chad: "Hit the road. Drive yourselves to" *cut* Stephanie: "Muttrah Souq"
Claire: "Hit the road. Drive yourselves to" *cut* "Muttrah Souq"
Vicki: "Hit the road. Drive yourselves to the" *cut* "Muttrah Souq"
Nat: "Hit the road. Drive yourselves to" *cut* "Muttrah Souq"
Gary/Mallory: "Hit the road."

Can anyone pull up the Episode Credits so we could make a check?
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Cocoa on November 16, 2010, 06:53:52 PM
Oh wait, I remember now! Grab a screenshot of their clue, and no "Hit the Road" is seen. Great job editors, and Zack and Neobie! :lol:
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2010, 07:00:44 PM
Episode credits:

Special Thanks to the Oman Ministry of Tourism. :lol:

Can't grab it, but that's all there is.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: GreenNegg on November 16, 2010, 07:02:31 PM
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j379/GreenNegg/RouteInfoMuscat.jpg)

Here, if it helps!


Maybe the route info has additional info that requires the racers to read-off screen? I remember seeing that once in TAR:China Rush.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Zack. on November 18, 2010, 07:36:56 AM
Thanks!  :hearts:

I don't think they would put 'Hit the road!' simply in the addition information simply because it's just a cutesy thing to add (see also: "Time to hoof it!",  "Pardon me boy, you need the Transylvania Station.", and more recently "Time to solve a Russian mystery.") and not, like, a safety precaution.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: maf on November 19, 2010, 09:27:43 AM
There's definitely something going on. The clue shown doesn't show "Hit the road" which every team reads out, but starts immediately with "Drive yourselves to the Muttrah Souq..."

I agree that something is going on. The clue shown in close ups have two paragraphs of three lines each followed by yet another paragraph. But look at this screen shot of B&C holding their clue.

(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m534/maf42/TAR17E08_bc.png)

In this it looks like only two paragraphs, and the first paragraph is a lot longer than the second. This does not match the clue shown in the close ups.

There are two more hints that there is some task between the detour and the souq. The first is simply the timing. According to G/M's exit interviews they and N/K checked in around midnight (08:00 + 16h). We see that N/K are finishing the detour when it gets dark at 19:00. Driving time from the detour to the souq is about or less than 1h. From the souq to the pit stop is just a couple of minutes. But still it took N&K five hours from the detour to the pit stop. Where did all the time go if not to an extra task?

Another indication is that it is pitch black when G/M reach the clue at the stack of books. It takes more than 1h to drive from there to the water trucks, which N/K are just completing. So at this time N/K is at least one hour ahead of G/M. But at the pit stop only minutes separate them So G/M managed to make up a lot of time somewhere. This could be due to bad navigating by N/K, traffic or an extra task.

All this makes me guess that there was an extra task which got left on the cutting room floor.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: apskip on November 20, 2010, 07:16:53 AM
maf,

It may appear that distances are short in Oman. However, that is not really the case. See the Oman map below. Although it is only 82 miles as the crow flies, travelers report a 3 to 4 hour driving time.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: maf on November 20, 2010, 09:22:26 AM
It may appear that distances are short in Oman. However, that is not really the case. See the Oman map below. Although it is only 82 miles as the crow flies, travelers report a 3 to 4 hour driving time.

I am not sure which distance you mean is 82 miles. As far as I can see the distance from where they picked up the water trucks to the souq is 66km (41 miles).  Then from the souq to the palace is 4km (2.5miles). Did it really take them 5 hours to cover those distances?
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: Slowhatch on November 20, 2010, 11:28:47 AM
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There's definitely something going on...
It's the second time this season (that I've noticed). At the end of Ep3 the voice-overs directing the teams to the pitstop didn't seem quite right; the only shot we got of a clue card was for K/R and it was the wheelbarrow card.
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: coolio on December 07, 2010, 08:37:36 PM
Well, I think that the clues they show onscreen are different that the ones the racers acculaty get, I've seen many times when team have a whole page to go off of!
Title: Re: EP 8 East Coast SHOW updates and commentary **please read the rules**
Post by: maf on December 08, 2010, 12:49:11 AM
Well, I think that the clues they show onscreen are different that the ones the racers acculaty get, I've seen many times when team have a whole page to go off of!

No, this is the clue the racers get. But they often get an additional sheets of information. These are usually tucked into the same folder as the small clue is. And you can actually see parts of that sheet to the left in the picture above.