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Title: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on July 24, 2010, 02:10:48 PM
This is the place to fondly...or not so fondly :lol: reminisce about previous seasons.

Discuss old challenges, compare and contrast tasks, episodes, and legs to your heart's content!!  :jam:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Mug Costanza on July 24, 2010, 10:37:57 PM
Sure, I'll bite. :)

Jerry Bruckheimer tweeted a few weeks ago asking followers to identify their favorite Amazing Race challenges. What are some of your favorites?

For me, I would include the World War I Detour from this past season (although not necessarily for the tasks themselves. In the Trenches/Under Fire took a backseat to the elaborate staging of the task and surrounding battle), the Count the Money/Run the Numbers Detour in Zurich from TAR 3 (probably my favorite all-time task. Tasks like this are what the Race is all about, IMO), and the Final Roadblock from TAR 9 with the flags (the best final task ever, in my estimation. So good that they kind of reused it in TARA 2).
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Dånooky on July 25, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
Haybales!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Sandra1991 on July 25, 2010, 03:11:48 PM
My favorite task has to be the Letterman Digital Arts Center task from the finale of TAR 16!
I would love to do that task  :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Caelestor on July 25, 2010, 08:36:51 PM
Haybales!

Meh, I don't really like luck tasks. Here's the ones that could be reused though.

Eiffel Tower RB (point to somewhere else, though)
Paris detour (though it's hard to duplicate this)
Tunisia Colisseum RB
Listening or Puzzling
Sahara RB

Confusion Now or Confusion Later
Aussie Slang RB
Cool Down or Heat Up
Boomerang RB

Scotland RB
Count the Money or Run the Numbers
William Tell RB
Swiss Bike RB
Basket Boats or Basket Bikes

Search or Rescue
Waterway or Pathway
Venice RB
Mozart or Beethoven
Malaysian Archery RB
Seoul RB
Seoul Detour (somewhat reused in Asia)
Hawaii RB

Perro or Tango
Block 5 Shots or Drink 1 Shot
Caviar RB
Zorb RB (but make it harder)
Plow or Fowl (I want to see both options though, so let's have a double RB!)

Ice Climb or Ice Search
Endurance or Accuracy
Haybales has already been reused
Hungarian Soup RB
All Ethiopia tasks
Locks RB (it's just too memorable)

Argentina Meat RB (also memorable)
All the Africa tasks this season
Istanbul RB
All London tasks
Limbo RB

Italy Statue RB
All Greece, Oman, and Australia tasks
The final RB

I can go on if you want.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Hooky on July 25, 2010, 11:07:35 PM
Stuff in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15647.75.html) is really good for this topic as well.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Coutzy on July 26, 2010, 12:48:43 AM
Aussie Slang RB

I maintain that that task was stupid, and was not so much "Aussie Slang" as "What Americans think Aussie Slang is"
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Cocoa on July 26, 2010, 01:21:32 AM
My favorite task has to be the Letterman Digital Arts Center task from the finale of TAR 16!
I would love to do that task  :lol:

I love it too! It features the real team-dynamics and interactions! It would have been much much much more fun if something Memory-like final task was involved in it, get what I mean? :lol:

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Mug Costanza on July 26, 2010, 01:57:40 AM
Aussie Slang RB

I maintain that that task was stupid, and was not so much "Aussie Slang" as "What Americans think Aussie Slang is"

What, you don't regularly use "lairy daks" in conversation?  :lol3:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on July 30, 2010, 04:45:47 AM
My favourite season is The Amazing Race 11.  I loved it so much, that I watch episodes everyday! I love how Kandice runs beautifully and flawlessly to the Finish Line with her beautiful black pants.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2011, 05:01:55 PM
:bump
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on January 22, 2011, 07:20:23 PM
My favourite tasks?

Anything that involves height (bungee jumping, skydiving) or something that involves gross food.

And... you have TAR 5.

Ostrich egg, caviar, skydiving, digging in sand, egypt roadblock/detour, philippines ox, australia zorb ball, australia mud/water-sliding detour...

TAR 5 gotta be the best season in terms of tasks and locations. None of the tasks seemed "useless" and "inappropriate" unlike in recent season where we have really really bad ones.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Reilly Queens on January 22, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
TAR 17 Geography Task.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on January 22, 2011, 08:21:54 PM
I loved the moment when Charla & Mirna beat Rob & Amber!  :hearts:

I also miss the Original Theme Song, the teams turning their heads during the Intro and the original fanny packs with the red and yellow stripes. I want one!  :lol:  :(

I wish there was the Amazing Race soundtrack CD.  :snicker: (besides the ones available on YouTube)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Belle Book on January 23, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
I liked the Australian slang task -- so much that I used it in my Fantasy Amazing Race fanfic.  I also liked the following tasks:

Venice Roadblock (I used a combination of it and the Tango part of the Perro/Tango Detour in my fanfic as well),
Ox/Fowl Detour ("My ox is broken!"  Still worth a good laugh!)
Season 9's final Roadblock (that was cool!)
The final memory task of the All-Stars season (even if Dustin & Kandice had problems there),
The donkeys task (seeing the donkey hee-haw at Nate was priceless!)

Belle Book
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Reilly Queens on January 23, 2011, 11:35:37 AM


And... you have TAR 5.

Ostrich egg, caviar, skydiving, digging in sand, egypt roadblock/detour, philippines ox, australia zorb ball, australia mud/water-sliding detour...

TAR 5 gotta be the best season in terms of tasks and locations. None of the tasks seemed "useless" and "inappropriate" unlike in recent season where we have really really bad ones.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on January 23, 2011, 06:36:27 PM
I like the camel milking task of TAR 12 at Burkina Faso. Especially Lorena milking the camels.

"Baby, there's no more MIIIIIIIIIIIIILKK!!"

 :lol:

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on January 23, 2011, 07:27:51 PM
I liked the meatblock in Race 7 cuz of what happened. Rob took the penalty, convinced 2 others to do the same so he and Amber wouldn't get eliminated, and they (Rob and Amber) ended up getting on the first flight the next leg.
In cause u haven't noticed, i LOVE Romber!  :hearts:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on February 04, 2011, 03:29:36 PM
Kafka hell  :hearts:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Reilly Queens on February 19, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
I was watching TAR3 eps today, and I remember how Simple tasks were back then.

The Rb- Grab a clue from the Fountain of Wealth

I bet the racers wish the tasks are this easy  :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Prophet on February 20, 2011, 07:16:00 AM
Yeah, but then they kind of peaked out b/c TAR 6 & 7 I remember as being really hard. It seems like they worked them the hardest in those years. Maybe that's why TAR 8 was such a let down.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on February 20, 2011, 07:37:01 AM
I was watching TAR3 eps today, and I remember how Simple tasks were back then.

The Rb- Grab a clue from the Fountain of Wealth

I bet the racers wish the tasks are this easy  :lol:

I just visited the fountain of wealth yesterday. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: mswood on February 20, 2011, 01:23:40 PM
You suck!

And I personally really have a problem with many of the food tasks.  I really don't care for anything that seems geared to make you vomit.  So eating large amounts of any food is out in my book or anything where the production has designed it where they plan on you throwing up.

But I don't mind them for Fast Forward awards as those are not mandatory tasks.

And there are some great tasks on every season, and some really easy ones to.  Take family edition, I thought they had a great final leg.  From the having to search the stadium without any clues to progress, to their highest spot the flag in the city task, to the great geography task, and besides last season i am really surprised geography isn't used more at some point during the race.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Prophet on February 20, 2011, 01:35:31 PM
How about the ridiculous but famous eating task in TAR7? They had to eat four pounds of all kinds of horrible cow and pig parts in Argentina. This kind of thing seems to be geared for TV only and has no real value as a skillful task. I agree that these sort of stunts should be for Fast Forwards only.

I thought the TAR 9 final task was good as well as those for 12 and 17. I was disappointed in the final tasks for 15 and 16 especially, they did not seem to be terribly skilled based or anything more than a simple game.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: mswood on February 20, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
Nw I don't mind eating task that started season 10 (everyone seemed well after), or even the Octopus that Reichen & Chip ate where they were told they couldn't vomit.  But pretty much any task that causes the racers to vomit is bad in my mind.  Well I make one exception for the sausage in All Stars. 

Anything that shows us Charla sticking a knife down her throat, and giving us one of TAR's best funny one liners in Eric, "Ladies and Gentlemen, Miss California", as Dustin pukes her guts out.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2011, 07:30:01 PM
A kilo of caviar all for me??

Pass the toast points please! :lol3:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: mswood on February 20, 2011, 08:03:55 PM
I am already sink, and now I am going to hurl.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: mswood on February 20, 2011, 08:04:32 PM
Sink....Sick...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2011, 08:30:18 PM
ohhhh poor baby! feel better soon!! :kuss:

Caviar, absolute Yum. But I did hear the season 5 caviar was NOT nice caviar. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: phant0m on February 20, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
omfg i remember it now. people pay THOUSANDS to get a 10th of what they got to eat (black caviar is especially expensive!). i wouldve destroyed it without mercy...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on March 09, 2011, 12:59:50 AM
I could'nt find the Post-Production Error thread we had, but here is another one:


(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5373/changai.png) (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/changai.png/)

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Prophet on March 09, 2011, 10:01:50 AM
It was merged here, AR:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24737.0.html
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: GabyM on August 13, 2011, 11:01:37 PM
And while we're on the subject of gross eating roadblocks, I'm mentioning the one with the spicy soup from season 6. I like spicy food and all, but it looked to me like the chefs OD'd on the paprika, which was most likely the reason so many teams were getting sick...although it did give us a few good quotes  :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on March 26, 2012, 07:01:16 AM
Most Amazing Races have 12 legs. They have 8 elimination legs and one finale, so that leaves 3 for NELs and TBC legs. The possibilities left are are:

1. one TBC and one NEL(already experienced)
2. three NEL legs (two left, so either both before the double finale leg or one during it)

On the question of why NELs are back end loaded, that is traditionally the way WRP elects to do it. That way more teams get eliminated in early legs and production costs go down.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: weihen on March 26, 2012, 07:25:57 AM
There will be two more NEL's to meet the limits. May 6th is a two hour two episode show, that's what is confusing you I think. The show airs all night but April 1.

The double show for the finale wasn't so confusing as was exactly how they would still have four teams in the running at the start of the finale night show.

It would seem to have to be two more NELs, but that struck me as excessive since that would make two of the four remaining legs before finale night NELs.  Is it normal to have NELs more frequently towards the end like that?
S14....
leg8 NEL
leg9 F4
lrg10 TBC(2 Ep)
Leg11 Final
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: theschnauzers on March 26, 2012, 11:02:53 PM
Season 13/14 were about the only seasons with 11 legs/episodes because of CBS spring scheduling issues.
Since 14, the show has become set at 12 legs (or equivalent if there's a double leg in there,) 12 hours, 12 episodes (and one being 2 hours when necessary for scheduling.)
The other thing is that the show has figured out how to do two legs in one city which they've done regularly and which reduces costs and still allows that additional hour.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on March 27, 2012, 07:41:31 AM
Since 14, the show has become set at 12 legs (or equivalent if there's a double leg in there,) 12 hours, 12 episodes (and one being 2 hours when necessary for scheduling.)
The other thing is that the show has figured out how to do two legs in one city which they've done regularly and which reduces costs and still allows that additional hour.

I am sorry, the schnauzers, but my research does not substantiate your thesis that the show does two legs in one city. I believe that there are no examples of that since AR14. In AR13, Moscow was such an example and in AR14 Beijing was too. However, since then here are the examples of ttwo legs/one country:

AR15 - Cai Be, Ho Chi Minh City
AR16 - Valparaiso, Puerto Varas
AR18 - Sydney, Broken Hill
          Lijiang, Kunming
          Kolkata, Varanasi
AR19   Phuket, Bangkok
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on March 27, 2012, 10:08:49 AM
Since 14, the show has become set at 12 legs (or equivalent if there's a double leg in there,) 12 hours, 12 episodes (and one being 2 hours when necessary for scheduling.)
The other thing is that the show has figured out how to do two legs in one city which they've done regularly and which reduces costs and still allows that additional hour.

I am sorry, the schnauzers, but my research does not substantiate your thesis that the show does two legs in one city. I believe that there are no examples of that since AR14. In AR13, Moscow was such an example and in AR14 Beijing was too. However, since then here are the examples of ttwo legs/one country:

AR15 - Cai Be, Ho Chi Minh City
AR16 - Valparaiso, Puerto Varas
AR18 - Sydney, Broken Hill
          Lijiang, Kunming
          Kolkata, Varanasi
AR19   Phuket, Bangkok

In TAR17, legs 6 and 7 were both in St. Petesburg, Russia.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 27, 2012, 11:07:23 AM
Since 14, the show has become set at 12 legs (or equivalent if there's a double leg in there,) 12 hours, 12 episodes (and one being 2 hours when necessary for scheduling.)
The other thing is that the show has figured out how to do two legs in one city which they've done regularly and which reduces costs and still allows that additional hour.

I am sorry, the schnauzers, but my research does not substantiate your thesis that the show does two legs in one city. I believe that there are no examples of that since AR14. In AR13, Moscow was such an example and in AR14 Beijing was too. However, since then here are the examples of ttwo legs/one country:

AR15 - Cai Be, Ho Chi Minh City
AR16 - Valparaiso, Puerto Varas
AR18 - Sydney, Broken Hill
          Lijiang, Kunming
          Kolkata, Varanasi
AR19   Phuket, Bangkok

In TAR17, legs 6 and 7 were both in St. Petesburg, Russia.
TAR 16 two legs in Shanghai, TAR 18 two legs in Zermatt and TAR 19 two legs in Brussels.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: maxen on March 27, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
What about Prague (15)???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARFansurvivor on March 27, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
What about Prague (15), Shanghai (16), Zermatt (18) and maybe Brussells (19)???
Oh i forgot Prague!!!! :groan: :groan: :groan: :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on March 27, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
Wither Dubai (15)?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on March 27, 2012, 01:31:50 PM
Since 14, the show has become set at 12 legs (or equivalent if there's a double leg in there,) 12 hours, 12 episodes (and one being 2 hours when necessary for scheduling.)
The other thing is that the show has figured out how to do two legs in one city which they've done regularly and which reduces costs and still allows that additional hour.

I am sorry, the schnauzers, but my research does not substantiate your thesis that the show does two legs in one city. I believe that there are no examples of that since AR14. In AR13, Moscow was such an example and in AR14 Beijing was too. However, since then here are the examples of two legs/one country:

AR15 - Cai Be, Ho Chi Minh City
AR16 - Valparaiso, Puerto Varas
AR18 - Sydney, Broken Hill
          Lijiang, Kunming
          Kolkata, Varanasi
AR19   Phuket, Bangkok

In TAR17, legs 6 and 7 were both in St. Petersburg, Russia.
TAR 16 two legs in Shanghai, TAR 18 two legs in Zermatt and TAR 19 two legs in Brussels.

OK,I find that St. Petersburg, while not 2 full legs does qualify for close enough to 2. Shanghai has no qualifications; it clearly had 2 legs in the same city.

However, Zermatt only had slightly more than one leg; it does not qualify as 2 legs in my judgment. Brussels does not qualify either. If has small pieces of 2 legs wrapped around 1 full leg. I count that as 1 leg.

So, kudos to Alaneveda for adding to the knowledge base and TARFANSurvivor for also adding to it. There are 5 valid examples of 2 places/1 country/2 legs versus 2 for 1 place/2 legs.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: tarflyonthewall on March 28, 2012, 10:44:54 PM
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Brussels does not qualify either. If has small pieces of 2 legs wrapped around 1 full leg. I count that as 1 leg.

Semantics and Hamburg drive-by aside, you have a leg and a half in the Copenhagen area, and a leg and a half in the Brussels area (and two Pit Stops in Brussels proper). Either way, you pretty much lose a location in the middle.

And what is the justification for those drive-by visits, anyway? Haven't had any in years, and all of a sudden there are FOUR in Central Europe (Salzburg/Liechtenstein/Zermatt, Copenhagen/Hamburg/Brussels, Brussels/Amsterdam/Panama City, Turin/Ehrwald/Bavaria) in three seasons? It can't be a lack of air routes - as we saw in TAR Australia, Brussels has a perfectly capable airport of its own. Is it just a way of artificially inflating the country count?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: addie on March 29, 2012, 01:24:52 AM
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Brussels does not qualify either. If has small pieces of 2 legs wrapped around 1 full leg. I count that as 1 leg.

Semantics and Hamburg drive-by aside, you have a leg and a half in the Copenhagen area, and a leg and a half in the Brussels area (and two Pit Stops in Brussels proper). Either way, you pretty much lose a location in the middle.

And what is the justification for those drive-by visits, anyway? Haven't had any in years, and all of a sudden there are FOUR in Central Europe (Salzburg/Liechtenstein/Zermatt, Copenhagen/Hamburg/Brussels, Brussels/Amsterdam/Panama City, Turin/Ehrwald/Bavaria) in three seasons? It can't be a lack of air routes - as we saw in TAR Australia, Brussels has a perfectly capable airport of its own. Is it just a way of artificially inflating the country count?

The cities in the second Brussels leg  aren't in Brussels itself. If you call them Brussels Area then you can call whole Belgium Brussels Area. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on March 29, 2012, 08:14:53 AM
I suspect it helps 'manage' the racers on a somewhat stable timeline; we don't know how teams would manage had they driven from Turin to Fussen, or flown directly from Brussels to Panama City (though I think in this specific case there was a direct flight from Schipol to Panama that was utilized). Any sort of fringe benefits (extra visas to confuse the racers, paranoia that there's more things they have to remember, more downtime for racers to bond or bicker) are unintentional.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2012, 07:31:38 PM
Here is a quote from theschnauzers about how production cannot manipulate the game.

Just a quick comment in all of the speculation.  Tasks are not changed at the last moment to favor teams; the elimination points are not changed, i.e., a non-elimination leg remains a non-elimination leg. I don't know if it is still being done, but in the early seasons, it was mentioned that production actually prepared a sworn affidavit, prior to the start of filming,of the tasks that would be used and at what point so as to avoid claims that tasks were changed on the spot to favor any team.
The affidavit, as I understood what was mentioned at the time, also included the backup tasks or legs in case of problems at any point in the race. There's absolutely no way a last minute change in location or tasks can be made without some advance preparation (local production crew and extras) so it can be executed and keep filming on track.
It irritates me to no end when there's a suggestion such as changing a task or an elimination point to favor keeping a particular team in the race. Among other things, since TAR is legally considered under US law to be a game show, it is required to comply with federal law that prohibits manipulation of the game elements to favor or not favor particular teams.

I basically agree with theschnauzers. However, there is one huge counter-example, the changing of the pit stop for AR All Stars episode 6 from what we  believe to be Arusha back to StoneTown on Zanzibar Island due to the major disruption of flights into Dar-Es-Salaam. There is little question that this was done. It may have been part of a backup plan or it may have been improvised on the fly.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: theschnauzers on April 25, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
IIRC, the ultimate pit stop for that disrupted leg of TARAS was an alternate task or route marker point. I recall Phil saying something along the lines, after that leg aired, that they had to pack the original pit stop and go back to that location that ended up being used. I'm not sure if the teams were told in a clue or not because, as we learned by that point the sound editors could very precisely edit the audio track to create new sentences out of unrelated sentences at different times and from different places.
My guess would be that the plans had alternate pit stops listed to cover all contingencies. (Don't forget TAR 19 in Thailand where the pit stop of the second leg and a task that led to it were the only tasks in Bangkok, everything else was in Phuket.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2012, 08:41:00 PM
This has nothing to do with TAR 20, lol.

But the TAR11 teams knew nothing about the change.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: selkie on April 25, 2012, 10:38:08 PM
Also, the original To Be Continued was created on the fly because the producers hadn't done their research and scheduled a NEL during a 'take all your money as a penalty' season in a country where it was illegal for the last Racers to turn around and beg in the streets for cab money to get to the airport.

They can't adjust the Book in order to favor a team they think will be popular. But they've got a lot more leeway in terms of adjusting on the fly than a show filmed on a nice controlled sound stage because Stuff Happens, and they've got a history of adjusting things if a Racer is impacted by an error caused by Production, even if they don't announce time credits like they used to.  They also omitted a Speed Bump that Vicki & Nick should have faced a few seasons ago because of some sort of snafu during what seemed to be an impossibly hard music task in, IIRC, Russia.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/the-amazing-race-leg-omitted-speed-bump-due-production-issues-11697.php

(There's some speculation that the production issue as bad enough that Vicki & Nick's non-elimination was unplanned, but production claimed it was a scheduled NEL.)

And I'm sure that production has also regularly thrown up hours of operation signs on the fly in order to prevent teams from ending up spread over three different continents. Again with the TARAS where Charla and Mirna got a day ahead of everyone in Africa because of the Great School Holidays and Hadj mess, went to take their boat to the next task, and instead came across a sign saying the boat couldn't operate that day due to high seas that looked a good 3-5 inches of fierce waves.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on April 25, 2012, 11:49:38 PM
Also, the original To Be Continued was created on the fly because the producers hadn't done their research and scheduled a NEL during a 'take all your money as a penalty' season in a country where it was illegal for the last Racers to turn around and beg in the streets for cab money to get to the airport.

They can't adjust the Book in order to favor a team they think will be popular. But they've got a lot more leeway in terms of adjusting on the fly than a show filmed on a nice controlled sound stage because Stuff Happens, and they've got a history of adjusting things if a Racer is impacted by an error caused by Production, even if they don't announce time credits like they used to.  They also omitted a Speed Bump that Vicki & Nick should have faced a few seasons ago because of some sort of snafu during what seemed to be an impossibly hard music task in, IIRC, Russia.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/the-amazing-race-leg-omitted-speed-bump-due-production-issues-11697.php

(There's some speculation that the production issue as bad enough that Vicki & Nick's non-elimination was unplanned, but production claimed it was a scheduled NEL.)

And I'm sure that production has also regularly thrown up hours of operation signs on the fly in order to prevent teams from ending up spread over three different continents. Again with the TARAS where Charla and Mirna got a day ahead of everyone in Africa because of the Great School Holidays and Hadj mess, went to take their boat to the next task, and instead came across a sign saying the boat couldn't operate that day due to high seas that looked a good 3-5 inches of fierce waves.

The explanation was that the guy outside the 3 rooms tell Nick and Vicki they had the wrong scores when, in fact, they had the right ones.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: SuperTux on April 26, 2012, 02:21:15 AM
Why were Cindy & Ernie from S19 not penalized for losing tickets?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on April 26, 2012, 02:27:44 AM
Why were Cindy & Ernie from S19 not penalized for losing tickets?

I wonder why too. I think it's because they paid for their tickets anyways, so they didn't bother.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on April 26, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
Here is a quote from theschnauzers about how production cannot manipulate the game.

Just a quick comment in all of the speculation.  Tasks are not changed at the last moment to favor teams; the elimination points are not changed, i.e., a non-elimination leg remains a non-elimination leg. I don't know if it is still being done, but in the early seasons, it was mentioned that production actually prepared a sworn affidavit, prior to the start of filming,of the tasks that would be used and at what point so as to avoid claims that tasks were changed on the spot to favor any team.
The affidavit, as I understood what was mentioned at the time, also included the backup tasks or legs in case of problems at any point in the race. There's absolutely no way a last minute change in location or tasks can be made without some advance preparation (local production crew and extras) so it can be executed and keep filming on track.
It irritates me to no end when there's a suggestion such as changing a task or an elimination point to favor keeping a particular team in the race. Among other things, since TAR is legally considered under US law to be a game show, it is required to comply with federal law that prohibits manipulation of the game elements to favor or not favor particular teams.

The first non-elimination in S16 is fishy, it spared the producers favorite Jeff & Jordan. Also the Blind U-turn in the next leg which kept them in the race.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on April 26, 2012, 08:27:01 AM
Not to me. I mean, they've had NELs on leg 4 before (TAR6) and they've had NELs in the first continent change before (TAR6, 7, 8 if you replace 'continent' with 'country', 9, 11) and they've had production favorites go early (Romber in TARAS).

Plus, the linear nature of the following leg suggests the Blind U-Turn was put in there to help whoever was spared to survive, because otherwise they would surely be last and out. Even if it was placed in to help J/J, it wouldn't have prevented Joe from making the comments he did on the bus or Louie/Michael to react negatively to them.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Best Loser on April 26, 2012, 09:51:01 AM
Why were Cindy & Ernie from S19 not penalized for losing tickets?
I'm thinking that as long as they take the required form of transportation (if any), it doesn't matter if they paid or not. I'm sure if teams could get on airplanes without buying tickets production would allow it.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2012, 11:32:16 PM
They had their receipts showing they paid for the tickets....
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on May 20, 2012, 10:48:55 AM
Just as a fact:  about the Caribbean and Central America, TAR never had a first leg on that area (only TARLA 2 had the starting line at Guatemala's Tikal National Park).  The closest one was Mexico in TAR3.

(BTW, you keep surprising me with your analysis, and I think you're right about it)

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on May 20, 2012, 07:30:11 PM
Just as a fact:  about the Caribbean and Central America, TAR never had a first leg on that area (only TARLA 2 had the starting line at Guatemala's Tikal National Park).  The closest one was Mexico in TAR3.

(BTW, you keep surprising me with your analysis, and I think you're right about it)


Alaneveda,

I was shocked to learn in an unpublished separate analysis of Central America destinations only that Mexico only qualified under my sets of assumptions with Monterey with 3 flights to there from LAX at 5pm and one each at 9pm  and 10pm. Mexico City had only one nonstop flight and thus did not qualify. The other destinations that do not qualify based on my criteria are Guadalajara, Guajanato and Leon.

I am not clear what you were saying about AR3, but the first destination there was definitely Mexico City although it originated in Miami and not LAX.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on May 22, 2012, 10:01:10 PM
Just as a fact:  about the Caribbean and Central America, TAR never had a first leg on that area (only TARLA 2 had the starting line at Guatemala's Tikal National Park).  The closest one was Mexico in TAR3.

(BTW, you keep surprising me with your analysis, and I think you're right about it)


Alaneveda,

I was shocked to learn in an unpublished separate analysis of Central America destinations only that Mexico only qualified under my sets of assumptions with Monterey with 3 flights to there from LAX at 5pm and one each at 9pm  and 10pm. Mexico City had only one nonstop flight and thus did not qualify. The other destinations that do not qualify based on my criteria are Guadalajara, Guajanato and Leon.

I am not clear what you were saying about AR3, but the first destination there was definitely Mexico City although it originated in Miami and not LAX.

Geographically speaking (Should be the differences on educationals programs.  For us, Canada, USA and Mexico always were part of North America: everything between Mexico and Colombia's border with Panama were Central America; and from Colombia to the Strait of Magellan were South America).

There is no question about the definition of North America, whether from decades ago or today. It is Canada, U.S., Mexico AND Central America.
However, I have discovered with some geographic research to double-check the current view of what constitutes Central America that Mexico is not included in the modern definition even though it was when I learned geography several decades ago. So I stand corrected (except for some who view the southeastern tip of Mexico as part of Central America). Thus AR3 did not go first to Central America. Also, Monterey is not in Central America so there are no places in Central America where you can fly nonstop from LAX in the designated time frame.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on May 24, 2012, 12:42:18 PM
Just as a fact:  about the Caribbean and Central America, TAR never had a first leg on that area (only TARLA 2 had the starting line at Guatemala's Tikal National Park).  The closest one was Mexico in TAR3.

(BTW, you keep surprising me with your analysis, and I think you're right about it)


Alaneveda,

I was shocked to learn in an unpublished separate analysis of Central America destinations only that Mexico only qualified under my sets of assumptions with Monterey with 3 flights to there from LAX at 5pm and one each at 9pm  and 10pm. Mexico City had only one nonstop flight and thus did not qualify. The other destinations that do not qualify based on my criteria are Guadalajara, Guajanato and Leon.

I am not clear what you were saying about AR3, but the first destination there was definitely Mexico City although it originated in Miami and not LAX.

Geographically speaking (Should be the differences on educationals programs.  For us, Canada, USA and Mexico always were part of North America: everything between Mexico and Colombia's border with Panama were Central America; and from Colombia to the Strait of Magellan were South America).

There is no question about the definition of North America, whether from decades ago or today. It is Canada, U.S., Mexico AND Central America.
However, I have discovered with some geographic research to double-check the current view of what constitutes Central America that Mexico is not included in the modern definition even though it was when I learned geography several decades ago. So I stand corrected (except for some who view the southeastern tip of Mexico as part of Central America). Thus AR3 did not go first to Central America. Also, Monterey is not in Central America so there are no places in Central America where you can fly nonstop from LAX in the designated time frame.

Once again, and for make it clear to you:  For us who lives in the other half of the continent, Canada, USA and Mexico always were part of North America: everything between Mexico and Colombia's border with Panama were Central America; and from Colombia to the Strait of Magellan were South America, and that's the way we used to divide the whole continent.  When I'm talking about "differences on educationals programs" I'm referring to this, ¿understood?.  So, from our point of view, the closest first leg to Central America - without counting TARLA 2 in Guatemala - was TAR3 in Mexico.  ¿Is it clear enough for you?
On the same way, if TAR24 (as an example) would have its first leg in any city of Colombia or Venezuela, then I would say that the closest first legs to Central America has been TAR3 (Mexico) and TAR24 (Colombia/Venezuela).
And to let it even clearer:  until TAR20, Argentina never had a first leg.  The closest first legs were TAR2-TAR9-TAR13 (Brasil), TAR5 (Uruguay) and TAR16 (Chile). :tup:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on July 27, 2012, 05:01:38 PM
 :bump
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on July 29, 2012, 03:00:23 PM
quick question, on Mark's last try they had a dancer doing the steps right near the camera guy, did they only do it that one time or had they done it throughout?

I think it was only for Mark's last attempt. For all the other teams, the blue podium where the dance instructor was showing his steps were occupied by the instrument players.

You're right AR. It looks like they made this concession for them. Maybe they wanted to avoid someone taking a four hour penalty in a NEL leg.

Show content
(http://i.imgur.com/3YZRs.jpg)

To end this discussion, I've been making the spanish subs sync of this chapter, and I found something that put things clear about this point: in Mark's third attempt to perform the dance routine, at 26.36 minutes of the episode, we can see the choreographer doing the routine in front of the stage, guiding Mark.  And you can also see the other coreographers close to the stage in every attempt that both Rachels, Vanessa and J.J. made to fulfill the RB, but the editing doesn't allow to watch if they're doing the same.

(EDIT: And also at the 7th attempt too. Down there you have the caps from every attempt)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR20/vlcsnap-2012-08-04_zpsaab10d39.png)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR20/vlcsnap-2012-08-04-11h05m42s38_zps5cbd9cf8.png)

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR20/vlcsnap-2012-08-04d_zps906449d1.jpg)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on July 29, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
I didn't know where to post this, but I'll put it here:

Did you notice that Phil changed his hosting style for when he reveals the news to the last team that the leg is a NEL?

Example: I'm… pleased to tell you however… [ speaking at the last team ]

I've noticed throughout some of TAR19 and 20 that Phil asks questions or somehow gets the last teams to do a speech (i.e. Mark & Bopper) before revealing that it's a NEL.

I don't know, but this just bothers me.

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: bcp19 on July 29, 2012, 03:45:52 PM
I didn't know where to post this, but I'll put it here:

Did you notice that Phil changed his hosting style for when he reveals the news to the last team that the leg is a NEL?

Example: I'm… pleased to tell you however… [ speaking at the last team ]

I've noticed throughout some of TAR19 and 20 that Phil asks questions or somehow gets the last teams to do a speech (i.e. Mark & Bopper) before revealing that it's a NEL.

I don't know, but this just bothers me.
Actually, for several seasons now Phil has had a 'tell' when it came to NEL.

In normal EL's, he more often than not says Something similar to "X and Y, you are the last team to arrive... I'm sorry to tell you that you have been eliminated"

But in NEL's he almost always says "X and Y, I am sorry to tell you that you are the last team to arrive... However(or I'm pleased to tell you) this is a non elimination leg.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on July 29, 2012, 05:33:58 PM
Well I meant that he doesn't actually right away tell that it is a NEL.

Example: Bopper & Mark

"You are the last team to arrive… I know you worked really hard… Bopper, I know you wanted to come on this Race so bad"

Example: Amani & Marcus

"You are the last team to arrive… how are you feeling right now?"

and back then it was basically "I'm… pleased to tell you however,"

Although this is such a small topic, I just wanted to bring it up.

This hosting style of Phil is something I really don't like, but it does allow for meaningful moments like both of Bopper & Mark's NEL's.

Just bugged that it's always so obvious when it's a NEL now, unless you read spoilers and know how long a certain team lasts  :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: bcp19 on July 29, 2012, 08:02:25 PM
Well I meant that he doesn't actually right away tell that it is a NEL.

Example: Bopper & Mark

"You are the last team to arrive… I know you worked really hard… Bopper, I know you wanted to come on this Race so bad"

Example: Amani & Marcus

"You are the last team to arrive… how are you feeling right now?"

and back then it was basically "I'm… pleased to tell you however,"

Although this is such a small topic, I just wanted to bring it up.

This hosting style of Phil is something I really don't like, but it does allow for meaningful moments like both of Bopper & Mark's NEL's.

Just bugged that it's always so obvious when it's a NEL now, unless you read spoilers and know how long a certain team lasts  :lol:
I don't remember where I read it, but I'm pretty sure that Phil often takes several minutes talking to the racers upon arrival, it's just that most of it ends up on the cutting room floor.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on August 05, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
quick question, on Mark's last try they had a dancer doing the steps right near the camera guy, did they only do it that one time or had they done it throughout?

I think it was only for Mark's last attempt. For all the other teams, the blue podium where the dance instructor was showing his steps were occupied by the instrument players.

You're right AR. It looks like they made this concession for them. Maybe they wanted to avoid someone taking a four hour penalty in a NEL leg.

Show content
(http://i.imgur.com/3YZRs.jpg)

To end this discussion, I've been making the spanish subs sync of this chapter, and I found something that put things clear about this point: in Mark's third attempt to perform the dance routine, at 26.36 minutes of the episode, we can see the choreographer doing the routine in front of the stage, guiding Mark.  And you can also see the other coreographers close to the stage in every attempt that both Rachels, Vanessa and J.J. made to fulfill the RB, but the editing doesn't allow to watch if they're doing the same.

(EDIT: And also at the 7th attempt too. Down there you have the caps from every attempt)

And here's are some more caps from the RB:

1. Rachel (Davechel) 1st. attempt.
2. Rachel (Brenchel) 1st. attempt.
3-4 J.J. 4th. attempt.

In all of them the coreographers are close to the stage while they're doing the dance routine.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR20/vlcsnap-2012-08-05a_zps14fb239d.jpg)
1

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR20/vlcsnap-2012-08-05b_zps61dd0cd7.jpg)
2

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR20/vlcsnap-2012-08-05c_zps437aaf5d.jpg)
3

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/TAR20/vlcsnap-2012-08-05d_zps8c015d89.jpg)
4
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on August 05, 2012, 08:43:13 PM
I didn't know where to post this, but I'll put it here:

Did you notice that Phil changed his hosting style for when he reveals the news to the last team that the leg is a NEL?

Example: I'm… pleased to tell you however… [ speaking at the last team ]

I've noticed throughout some of TAR19 and 20 that Phil asks questions or somehow gets the last teams to do a speech (i.e. Mark & Bopper) before revealing that it's a NEL.

I don't know, but this just bothers me.

Normally before he did the revealing.. he will give a moment or two for the camera to zoom in to the death-panic-crazy-anxious-faces from the racers who came in last. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: tarflyonthewall on August 12, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
I'm working on a guide to the tasks of various reality shows (including TAR), and I'm categorising the tasks for each show rather than doing them chronologically for many reasons, among them to compare similar legs. I've worked out that I want to split the legs up by geographic region and while some of them are obvious - Mauritius/Madagascar/Seychelles together, the Scandinavian countries together - others are frustrating to work out. Do I give China and India their own sections? But then what would happen with Sri Lanka and Mongolia? Do I include Israel and Turkey as "Middle East"? Do I separate Brazil from Hispanophone South America? Do I include Jamaica, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic with the Mexico, Panama, and Costa Rica legs? Does Morocco go with Tunisia and Egypt as part of North Africa or Senegal, Burkina Faso, and Ghana as part of West Africa? What do I do with Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan? Or Guam? Or the Philippines?

So, I suppose my question is: How would you divide the world into "regions" for something like this?

Edited because Senegal? Not an island.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on August 13, 2012, 03:21:36 AM
I'd do it by episodes. WHy complicate things? :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: tarflyonthewall on August 13, 2012, 04:00:24 AM
A big part of the reasoning is that many of the other shows on the list are "recurring challenge, new players each week" deals, and I want to keep it consistent. I think I've got it all sorted, although there's some unfortunate bits where I've had to split a country's legs - Hamburg belongs with North-West Europe, Berlin belongs with Eastern Europe, and Munich belongs with the Alpine regions, for example. It doesn't work to keep them together.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: tarflyonthewall on August 14, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
Here's what I've tentatively decided on:

NORTH AMERICA - Canada and the United States
CENTRAL AMERICA - Costa Rica, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama, and Puerto Rico
"FORESTED" SOUTH AMERICA - Brazil, Colombia, Paraguay, and Venezuela
"MOUNTAINOUS" SOUTH AMERICA - Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Ecuador, Peru, and Uruguay
NORTH-WEST EUROPE - Belgium, Ireland, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom
SCANDINAVIA - Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden
FORMER SOVIET UNION - Azerbaijan, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Russia, and Ukraine
CENTRAL EUROPE - Austria, the Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Liechtenstein, Poland, Romania, and Switzerland
MEDITERRANEAN - Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Egypt, France, Greece, Israel, Italy, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Tunisia, and Turkey
WEST & SOUTH-WESTERN AFRICA - Botswana, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Namibia, Senegal, and South Africa
EASTERN AFRICA - Ethiopia, Madagascar, Malawi, Mauritius, Mozambique, the Seychelles, Tanzania, and Zambia
MIDDLE EAST - Kuwait, Oman, and the United Arab Emirates
SUBCONTINENT - Bangladesh, India, and Sri Lanka
SOUTH-EAST ASIA - Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam
FAR-EASTERN ASIA - China, Japan, Mongolia, South Korea, and Taiwan
PACIFIC ISLANDS - Australia, Guam, New Zealand, and the Philippines

I'm really not sure how to quickly describe the two South America categories - like, I see the "forested" countries as very "green" while the "mountainous" countries are very "brown", but that may just be me. There's still a couple I'm not entirely sure about - Jamaica's not really Central America (I was going to go with Anglophone North America and Hispanophone North America, but freaking Montreal had to exist and there are parts of the US where Spanish is dominant, and I wanted to keep countries together because casual viewers are more likely to remember, like, that the cheese wheel task happened in Switzerland than they are to remember it was in TAR14) while the Philippines isn't really the same sort of location as the other Pacific Islands - but by and large I'm happy with this list. If there's any improvements anyone can make, feel free to reply.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on August 14, 2012, 10:50:08 PM
Here's what I've tentatively decided on:

NORTH AMERICA - Canada and the United States
CENTRAL AMERICA - Costa Rica, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama, and Puerto Rico
"FORESTED" SOUTH AMERICA - Brazil, Colombia, Paraguay, and Venezuela
"MOUNTAINOUS" SOUTH AMERICA - Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Ecuador, Peru, and Uruguay

NORTH-WEST EUROPE - Belgium, Ireland, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom
SCANDINAVIA - Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden
FORMER SOVIET UNION - Azerbaijan, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Russia, and Ukraine
CENTRAL EUROPE - Austria, the Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Liechtenstein, Poland, Romania, and Switzerland
MEDITERRANEAN - Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Egypt, France, Greece, Israel, Italy, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Tunisia, and Turkey
WEST & SOUTH-WESTERN AFRICA - Botswana, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Namibia, Senegal, and South Africa
EASTERN AFRICA - Ethiopia, Madagascar, Malawi, Mauritius, Mozambique, the Seychelles, Tanzania, and Zambia
MIDDLE EAST - Kuwait, Oman, and the United Arab Emirates
SUBCONTINENT - Bangladesh, India, and Sri Lanka
SOUTH-EAST ASIA - Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam
FAR-EASTERN ASIA - China, Japan, Mongolia, South Korea, and Taiwan
PACIFIC ISLANDS - Australia, Guam, New Zealand, and the Philippines

I'm really not sure how to quickly describe the two South America categories - like, I see the "forested" countries as very "green" while the "mountainous" countries are very "brown", but that may just be me. There's still a couple I'm not entirely sure about - Jamaica's not really Central America (I was going to go with Anglophone North America and Hispanophone North America, but freaking Montreal had to exist and there are parts of the US where Spanish is dominant, and I wanted to keep countries together because casual viewers are more likely to remember, like, that the cheese wheel task happened in Switzerland than they are to remember it was in TAR14) while the Philippines isn't really the same sort of location as the other Pacific Islands - but by and large I'm happy with this list. If there's any improvements anyone can make, feel free to reply.

I suggest you, in the South America matter, that you better use the same division we use here:

Atlantic countries:  Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Venezuela.
Pacific countries: Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Equador, Colombia.

This is because, for example, Argentina is not a "montainous country" only. In fact, you can't call the USA a "mountainous country" only because of  the Apalaches or the Rocky Mountains. Argentina has the Andes Mountains along his west border - places like Bariloche (TAR5/15) or Mendoza (TAR9) are there - and some secondaries chain of mountains related to the Andes (the mountains in Salta are one of them); but it's mostly plains, forests, plateau and an extended coast over the Atlantic Sea.  The same applies for Uruguay, who's not even close to the Andes (they're split South America in two) and only has very low hills known in spanish as "Cuchillas", so it becomes difficult to adjust your definition to it. By the other hand, Colombia has both mountains (the Andes) and forest, the same as Equador and Peru, so the difficult remains too.

I hope this can help you with your work.   :tup:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on August 15, 2012, 12:39:22 AM
Uruguay , Ecuador , and Argentina shall not be considered as MOUNTAINOUS , but Colombia should.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: tarflyonthewall on August 15, 2012, 12:48:18 AM
Yeah, I figured the wording wasn't entirely perfect, but Argentina fits better with Chile and Peru than it does with Brazil and Paraguay, if that makes sense. Can anyone think of a better description for the two groups?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on August 15, 2012, 12:52:56 AM
Mercosul isn't valid , right?  :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on August 15, 2012, 09:03:12 AM
Yeah, I figured the wording wasn't entirely perfect, but Argentina fits better with Chile and Peru than it does with Brazil and Paraguay, if that makes sense. Can anyone think of a better description for the two groups?

Mercosul isn't valid , right?  :lol:

tarflyonthewall:
Please, read again my previous post.  The division I suggested to you (and even Declive's one with Mercosur and Andean Countries) is the best that you can have.
If you took Declive's, the list of countries go to this:

Mercosur:  Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil and Venezuela.
Andean Countries:  Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Equador and Colombia.

That is exactly the same I gave you previously (with the exception that Venezuela fits in both of Declive's descriptions).  As I told you before, the Andes Mountains divide the continent in two, and historically this division has defined the way we gathers the nations of the continent as the colonial times did also (Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay were - until the Independence War in the 19th. century - part of the same spanish viceroyalty; Chile was a separated one; Peru, Equador and Bolivia were part of the same one; Colombia and Venezuela form another; and Brazil was a colony from Portugal).

Declive and I both live in South America, so we know exactly what are we talking about.  Any other way of putting the countries into groups only for what you saw in the differents legs of TAR is forced and incorrect.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on August 15, 2012, 11:13:41 AM
Yeah , Alenaveda is right. I think this is the best way to qualify South America.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on August 17, 2012, 07:06:42 AM
Have you noticed that by time, Ethan & Jenna were the first team eliminated in TAR19?
Think about it. They arrived on the mat first and were EL'd by Phil before Ron & Bill, therefore they were the first team to be eliminated. But going by positions is another story.  :)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on August 19, 2012, 01:19:48 PM
It didn't occur to me that way! But that's indeed.... TRUE! :ascared

Kinda hated the double elimination...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: maxen on August 19, 2012, 02:55:34 PM
Have you noticed that by time, Ethan & Jenna were the first team eliminated in TAR19?
Think about it. They arrived on the mat first and were EL'd by Phil before Ron & Bill, therefore they were the first team to be eliminated. But going by positions is another story.  :)

I remember that in the finale intro they showed Ethan & Jenna as the first in the list of eliminated teams, followed by Ron & Bill.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Faith511 on October 30, 2012, 07:12:37 AM
Eric and Danielle didn't  win any leg but the last. Well, eric won legs with jeremy but none in all stars
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 02, 2012, 10:55:45 PM
Eric and Danielle didn't  win any leg but the last. Well, eric won legs with jeremy but none in all stars


Danielle was basically "follow the leader" in both seasons just trying to make it through each leg. Never won with her bestie in season 9 and never won a leg until the San Francisco final leg.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on November 03, 2012, 09:56:22 AM
Eric and Danielle didn't  win any leg but the last. Well, eric won legs with jeremy but none in all stars


Danielle was basically "follow the leader" in both seasons just trying to make it through each leg. Never won with her bestie in season 9 and never won a leg until the San Francisco final leg.

There is ample room to knock Danielle. However, if you believe that the task in the Old Mint in the finale of AR11 was crucial then Danielle essentially won AR11 for her team.

I do NOT believe that, as that finale was won in the taxi segments preceding the Old Mint. Why World Race Productions decided to not show any of the to/from Grateful Dead House and time there when there was huge time shown in Hawaii that had no impact on the outcome of this race has been and remains a mystery to me. I consider it a rare example of very bad judgment for WRP.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on November 03, 2012, 01:36:09 PM
Danielle won the race for her team for being gossipy.. she even admitted it herself. She will discuss this and that with Eric on the race and they discussed a lot about the other teams in private, that was what pushed them to solve the code quickly. :(

But I wouldn't want BQ's or Charla and Mirna to win. If only Chas were there.... :'(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 03, 2012, 02:35:53 PM
Eric and Danielle didn't  win any leg but the last. Well, eric won legs with jeremy but none in all stars


Danielle was basically "follow the leader" in both seasons just trying to make it through each leg. Never won with her bestie in season 9 and never won a leg until the San Francisco final leg.

There is ample room to knock Danielle. However, if you believe that the task in the Old Mint in the finale of AR11 was crucial then Danielle essentially won AR11 for her team.

I do NOT believe that, as that finale was won in the taxi segments preceding the Old Mint. Why World Race Productions decided to not show any of the to/from Grateful Dead House and time there when there was huge time shown in Hawaii that had no impact on the outcome of this race has been and remains a mystery to me. I consider it a rare example of very bad judgment for WRP.

I would have to agree with you, apskip. Danielle did win the race when it counted the most. All-stars was really frantic about flight situations and that made my head spin that season (Eric & Danielle being booted from a plane, stand-by lists, Charla & Mirna's Kuala Lumpur flight lead). It seems like WRP is now cutting down on reasonable editings since I remembered in the first leg in season 20 when Kerri & Stacy were thought to be leaving on the first flight after the starting line task, but stumbled onto the last flight with everyone else. I still don't know if they got lost driving from Santa Barbara to Santa Monica which you follow the highway to get to or something big happened to their car. Also questioned when they arrived at the Paraguay Pit Stop when it was night time. I believe Kerri started the bottle dance RB when it was at noon or the afternoon. I don't see how she would take all dusk long and not use up all the bottles and arrive at the Pit Stop without the penalty.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2012, 08:22:21 PM
Didn't Kerri and Stacy have a flat tire on the way? I think I remember an Insider vid and a convo w/ them  about how glad they were that dad had made them change a tire!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: supah on November 03, 2012, 08:39:15 PM
It seems like WRP is now cutting down on reasonable editings since I remembered in the first leg in season 20 when Kerri & Stacy were thought to be leaving on the first flight after the starting line task, but stumbled onto the last flight with everyone else. I still don't know if they got lost driving from Santa Barbara to Santa Monica which you follow the highway to get to or something big happened to their car.

The Amazing Race - Kerri & Stacy Are Prepared

The cousins from Mississippi show off their tire changing skills on the way to LAX.

http://www.youtube.com/v/P-3fzcV3U7M

Also questioned when they arrived at the Paraguay Pit Stop when it was night time. I believe Kerri started the bottle dance RB when it was at noon or the afternoon. I don't see how she would take all dusk long and not use up all the bottles and arrive at the Pit Stop without the penalty.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,26900.msg722558.html#msg722558
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 04, 2012, 11:39:46 AM

Thanks supah3ro!  :tup: I have all my Mississippi girls mysteries answered. :hearts:

It seems like WRP made them look rather like boring southern moms rather than full of fun, racers. *Adds Kerri & Stacy sass*  :monroe:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on December 13, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
I love Season 10 the best! It had the most diverse cast ever!  :cmas9

My favourite moment was when Dustin & Kandice beat Tyler & James and Rob & Kimberly who took the Fast Forward!

 :cmas23

There are some others too! :D How about yours?  :cmas22
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on December 13, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
Dustin and Kandace getting their Yield karma and Bama even nearly winning the leg with the Yield.

Self-driving legs ROCK. :cmaslol
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on December 13, 2012, 11:01:19 AM
Erwin and Godwin faking to go for the Fast Forward.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Mug Costanza on December 13, 2012, 04:25:01 PM
Erwin and Godwin in the Seattle airport with the water guns getting confiscated by airport security! :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on December 14, 2012, 05:04:00 AM
I love Season 10 the best! It had the most diverse cast ever!  :cmas9

GMTA ;D

I liked all the teams in Season 10 except for Rob & Kimberly and Peter & Sarah.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on December 14, 2012, 06:20:29 AM
Erwin and Godwin in the Seattle airport with the water guns getting confiscated by airport security! :lol:

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx23/kevinmail25/Amazing%20Race%20Photos/erwingodwinscolded.jpg)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 14, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
TAR10 is one of my least favourite seasons actually. The main reason is that (not counting teams eliminated withint the first three legs who appeared awesome and we never really go to see) I completely hated the cast. Out of the Final Eight teams, I LOVED Dustin & Kandice, was OK with Peter & Sarah and just completely despised the rest. It was a little painful to watch Karlyn as well... :res: And if was VERY painful to watch that pointless alliance tbh...

But TAR10 did have a great route for the most part.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on December 14, 2012, 10:52:41 PM
TAR10 is one of my least favourite seasons actually. The main reason is that (not counting teams eliminated withint the first three legs who appeared awesome and we never really go to see) I completely hated the cast. Out of the Final Eight teams, I LOVED Dustin & Kandice, was OK with Peter & Sarah and just completely despised the rest. It was a little painful to watch Karlyn as well... :res: And if was VERY painful to watch that pointless alliance tbh...

But TAR10 did have a great route for the most part.

Bama and the sixpack was awesome KTY. :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ianthebalance on December 14, 2012, 11:17:53 PM
I love Season 10 the best! It had the most diverse cast ever!  :cmas9

Ironically, that was the reason I didn't like the cast, it seemed like they were trying to hard to be diverse.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Best Loser on December 15, 2012, 09:56:48 AM
The Sixpack alliance is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this show. The cast of TAR21 was getting dangerously close to Cho levels of stupidity.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 16, 2012, 08:42:41 AM
The Sixpack alliance is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this show. The cast of TAR21 was getting dangerously close to Cho levels of stupidity.

I wish I could agree more with this comment, but it is physically impossible! :cmaslol

I love Season 10 the best! It had the most diverse cast ever!  :cmas9

Ironically, that was the reason I didn't like the cast, it seemed like they were trying to hard to be diverse.

Same for this comment.

(I liked the diversity but all of the decent teams besides the Beauty Queens were out by Leg 3, so it was an awful cast from there onwards for me.)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on December 16, 2012, 09:40:09 AM
The Sixpack alliance is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this show. The cast of TAR21 was getting dangerously close to Cho levels of stupidity.

I wish I could agree more with this comment, but it is physically impossible! :cmaslol

I love Season 10 the best! It had the most diverse cast ever!  :cmas9

Ironically, that was the reason I didn't like the cast, it seemed like they were trying to hard to be diverse.

Same for this comment.

(I liked the diversity but all of the decent teams besides the Beauty Queens were out by Leg 3, so it was an awful cast from there onwards for me.)

Kellie & Jamie were decent? I don't remember a peep about them besides them getting lost in the second leg :cmaslol
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 16, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
The Sixpack alliance is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen on this show. The cast of TAR21 was getting dangerously close to Cho levels of stupidity.

I wish I could agree more with this comment, but it is physically impossible! :cmaslol

I love Season 10 the best! It had the most diverse cast ever!  :cmas9

Ironically, that was the reason I didn't like the cast, it seemed like they were trying to hard to be diverse.

Same for this comment.

(I liked the diversity but all of the decent teams besides the Beauty Queens were out by Leg 3, so it was an awful cast from there onwards for me.)

Kellie & Jamie were decent? I don't remember a peep about them besides them getting lost in the second leg :cmaslol

Well obviously they weren't memorable. How many teams eliminated within two legs are memorable? Very few.

But if Kellie & Jamie had made it further (as well as other teams eliminated within Legs 1-3) the cast would've worked out much more nicely in my opinion.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 16, 2012, 10:39:45 PM
I thought season 10's routing was truly exotic, but the cast was entirely decent in my opinion. Diversity isn't a very big factor for me as long as each team was tolerable.

Bilal & Sa'eed- They were competitive, surprised everyone by leaving in 1st during the Seattle start line, but I just thought they were another Steve & Dave.

Vipul & Arti - Unique sweethearts, I loved them, something about them spoke to my mind to adore their spirits.

Kellie & Jamie - rather fit and weak competitors on air, if they stayed longer, they might have became a Katie & Rachel.

Duke & Lauren - Decent, but not very memorable
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: PPlys on December 17, 2012, 05:38:24 AM
As a Dane I do have some comments for the episodes in Denmark in season 19:

I just spent an hour NOT finding a match.  I had figured it was part of an old private residence, but didn't think about the royal residences!  :groan:

It is not our royal castle - Amalienborg

http://goo.gl/szIeJ
http://goo.gl/fK1u0

And as you can see it is very close to Havet (the pitstop) http://goo.gl/F5n9X

But it is the castle with out parliament - Christiansborg

http://goo.gl/RYinJ
http://goo.gl/vYXRp

And the guy in top hat might be our next Don Giovanni :lol:

Sorry he was so dull.

They could take a train to Billund. I once did this route myself & it's not too far & the trains were very convenient.

You can't take a train to Billund. You can take the train to Vejle and then a bus from Vejle to Billund.

Did anyone mention this? The Hans Christian Andersen quote was on an "amazing" plaque...

Else it may have been in danish ;)


Another flaw in this episode. When they are driving from Copenhagen to Billund there are a helicopershoot of this bridge:

(http://media2.avisen.dk/billeder/oeresundsbroen_1482364_26.ashx)

But it is Öresundsbroen between Denmark and Sweden (the longest combined road and rail bridge in Europe)

http://goo.gl/NsDHj

The are actually passing Storebæltsbroen (The suspension bridge, known as the East Bridge, has the world's third longest main span (1.6 km), and the longest outside of Asia)

(http://www.hougesen.com/gallery/aerialphotos/storebaeltsbroen.jpg)

http://goo.gl/7JmMW

But it is shurely because that they got a helicopter in Copenhagen and didn't want to fly the 100 km for a picture of the right bridge.

And the Frederiksborg slot will translate into Frederiks castle castle. The first castle is like a stronghold and the second castle is the livingplace for royals. And Frederik is a name. Our crownprince is Frederik X.

The pistop 'Havet' translates into 'The Sea'. So you can't write The Havet. Then it is The The Sea ;)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on March 14, 2013, 05:19:27 AM
:lol3:

Eh IDK I really liked TAR6. REBECCA <33333333333333333 GUS & HERA <333333333 KRIS & JON <333333333333333333 MEREDITH & MARIA <3333333333333333333333 DON AND MARY JEAN <33333333333333333333333 LENA & KRISTY <3333333333333333

Racer and I have a hypothesis that if Rebecca and Zach team up in TAR that they will be at the finish line by the time all the other teams have completed the first leg. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bwils927 on March 14, 2013, 09:25:59 PM
Ya season 6 had so many likeable people. Avi & Joe <333333 as well, tough way to go out. Plus Lori and Bolo were just pure comedy also
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 15, 2013, 09:35:56 AM
Ya season 6 had so many likeable people. Avi & Joe <333333 as well, tough way to go out. Plus Lori and Bolo were just pure comedy also
It stinks how all the M/M and F/F teams were eliminated in the first three episodes. :lol: All I meant was the painful AMOUNT of dating and engaged teams that season like Adam & Rebecca, Hayden & Aaron, Kris & Jon, and Freddy & Kendra.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bwils927 on March 15, 2013, 05:21:19 PM
and Jonathan.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 15, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
and Jonathan.
I believe he and Victoria were somehow married than dating/engaged.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on March 15, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
and Jonathan.
I believe he and Victoria were somehow married than dating/engaged.

(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/Alenaveda/Tarpast/JONVIC6_zps39ee5f68.png)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: apskip on March 15, 2013, 09:52:05 PM
and Jonathan.
I believe he and Victoria were somehow married than dating/engaged.
Of course they were, but bwils' point was that the nastiness displayed by Jonathan made AR6 one of the least attractive Amazing Races ever.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 15, 2013, 10:47:41 PM
and Jonathan.
I believe he and Victoria were somehow married than dating/engaged.
Of course they were, but bwils' point was that the nastiness displayed by Jonathan made AR6 one of the least attractive Amazing Races ever.
O.K... got your point. I was thinking of the amount of near-matrimonial teams than already married in that season.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on March 16, 2013, 12:33:35 AM
I think the both of them are still pretty much in love after the show.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: theschnauzers on March 16, 2013, 12:47:19 AM
I know a lot of viewers were turned off by Jonathan and swore never to watch again because of that casting.
It's hard to tell if those viewers eventually came back; but I fast forward through Jonathan when I do happen to rewatch season 6 simply because Kris and Jon remain one of my all time favorite teams, and they can still be ranked as one of the best teams to compete on TAR.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Hooky on March 16, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
The only thing I have to say about Season 6 (besides that it is one of my absolute favorites), is that Lena & Kristy totally would have won if Leg 3 hadn't happened to them.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on March 16, 2013, 01:13:05 PM
The only thing I have to say about Season 6 (besides that it is one of my absolute favorites), is that Lena & Kristy totally would have won if Leg 3 hadn't happened to them.

LENA AND KRISTY <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Best Loser on March 16, 2013, 02:10:38 PM
The only thing I have to say about Season 6 (besides that it is one of my absolute favorites), is that Lena & Kristy totally would have won if Leg 3 hadn't happened to them.
I doubt it. They honestly weren't that great of a team. I think Debbie & Bianca were a better team overall.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: smiley on March 16, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
Lena and Kristy were constantly 3rd or 4th throughout most of the leg.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on March 25, 2013, 10:00:55 PM
Talking about the donkeys on the next leg, something brought back from the past:

http://www.youtube.com/v/eEsBT40F82w?version=3&amp;hl=es_
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 25, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
Talking about the donkeys on the next leg, something brought back from the past:

http://www.youtube.com/v/eEsBT40F82w?version=3&amp;hl=es_
Ethiopia love! :hrt: :hrt: :hrt:

"I can't breath!"
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: theschnauzers on April 08, 2013, 05:29:44 PM
The donkeys were the big hit in the opening Mexico leg at the start of TAR 3.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Best Loser on April 08, 2013, 05:36:35 PM
And who can forget the donkeys from Season 12's premiere?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on April 14, 2013, 05:37:46 AM
Are Uchenna & Joyce now divorced?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on April 14, 2013, 07:15:24 AM
Are Uchenna & Joyce now divorced?

Yes.  :'(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 14, 2013, 10:45:23 AM
Are Uchenna & Joyce now divorced?

Yes.  :'(
They were so awesome and perfect together! I heard from my uncle they even hosted a local Houston version of The Amazing Race together for charity.  :'(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Daniel on April 15, 2013, 09:11:55 AM
Are Uchenna & Joyce now divorced?

Yes.  :'(
They were so awesome and perfect together! I heard from my uncle they even hosted a local Houston version of The Amazing Race together for charity.  :'(

Wow they're divorced??? :o
Didn't expect that coming at all! :'( :iok
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: eqblackrose on May 03, 2013, 02:41:30 PM
I have watched a few International TARs, so I am not sure which one this is from.  But my favorite leg was the one where the teams drove their cars up to a mountain, and rode a train thru the mountain.  But the auto cars sat on the train cars, and the racers sort of lounged around on the cars as it drove thru the mountain.  Being an a tech geek that fascinated me.  It was so simple, yet looked like extreme fun.  Some of those train systems in other countries are just fascinating to watch.  Even the ones in India.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on May 03, 2013, 02:43:16 PM
I guess that was TAR3 ?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on May 04, 2013, 12:14:52 AM
I have watched a few International TARs, so I am not sure which one this is from.  But my favorite leg was the one where the teams drove their cars up to a mountain, and rode a train thru the mountain.  But the auto cars sat on the train cars, and the racers sort of lounged around on the cars as it drove thru the mountain.  Being an a tech geek that fascinated me.  It was so simple, yet looked like extreme fun.  Some of those train systems in other countries are just fascinating to watch.  Even the ones in India.

Season 3, Leg 9, the car train was in Switzerland and yes, it was awesome.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on May 09, 2013, 11:00:49 PM
Are Uchenna & Joyce now divorced?

Yes.  :'(

WHAT? No way! That is so sad.  :'( They were so good together!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 18, 2013, 02:10:02 AM
What was your favorite examples of prizes?

I would say the best are always the cars.

WORST PRIZES:

-Steve and Allie's Sprite Dinner in S16
-Gary and Mallory's Iced Tea in S18
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: WinTar on May 18, 2013, 02:28:37 AM
What iced-tea? The prize was an Indian dinner + bollywood-inspired entertainment + $20,000 to share.

Anyways, I thought the cameras given in Season 3 were the worst.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 18, 2013, 02:31:05 AM
What iced-tea? The prize was an Indian dinner + bollywood-inspired entertainment + $20,000 to share.

Anyways, I thought the cameras given in Season 3 were the worst.

The iced tea that they got to taste for free.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: WinTar on May 18, 2013, 02:32:27 AM
All teams got to taste the iced-tea for free.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Tarfan37 on May 18, 2013, 02:43:23 AM
All teams got to taste the iced-tea for free.
thank u for saying this.. and hey that tea was really good
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on May 18, 2013, 02:57:13 AM
The Bransens getting free fuel for the rest of their lives or something :P
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: WinTar on May 18, 2013, 03:04:45 AM
The Bransens getting free fuel for the rest of their lives or something :P
BEST PRIZE EVER.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Daniel on May 18, 2013, 04:17:22 AM
One of the worst has to be  Charla & Mirna and Ron & Christina's catamarans, even though it created some funny quotes/moments :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jimmer on May 18, 2013, 08:01:47 AM
I wouldn't mind winning the $1,000,000! ;) :lol:

Or the Express Pass. ;)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 18, 2013, 07:18:52 PM
I love TARAUS, but I don't like the Salvage Pass. Why not just give them a two hour time credit and a chance to Non-Eliminate a team instead? :)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on May 18, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
TARLA4 gave a team a Heart Rate Monitor .  :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 18, 2013, 07:54:56 PM
TARLA4 gave a team a Heart Rate Monitor .  :lol3: :lol3:

At least it wasn't as bad as TARA.

A free two day stay at a hotel. In Singapore. Given to a Singaporean team. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Hooky on May 18, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
The only thing I have to say about Season 6 (besides that it is one of my absolute favorites), is that Lena & Kristy totally would have won if Leg 3 hadn't happened to them.
I doubt it. They honestly weren't that great of a team. I think Debbie & Bianca were a better team overall.
Lena and Kristy were constantly 3rd or 4th throughout most of the leg.

Yep, that's right! (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_6_Leg_3)

Also, they spent much of Leg 2 (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_6_Leg_2) in 1st Place.

I think that gives them at least some credit! :hrt:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Prophet on May 19, 2013, 01:04:24 PM
TARLA4 gave a team a Heart Rate Monitor .  :lol3: :lol3:

wut
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on May 19, 2013, 01:35:30 PM
The Bransens getting free fuel for the rest of their lives or something :P
BEST PRIZE EVER.

Actually... (http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_8/2005_Oct_27_free_gas)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on May 19, 2013, 05:58:50 PM
It doesn't change the fact that it's great. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jimmer on May 19, 2013, 07:53:37 PM
Anyone I know would take $1,200 off their fuel bill a year. It's a no brainer. Still, the prize is valued at $60,000 which is a lot of savings!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Theo on May 23, 2013, 11:19:08 AM
I think Gary & Mallory's prize isn't that bad. They got one million rupees in addition.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Tarfan37 on May 24, 2013, 12:47:11 PM
I think Gary & Mallory's prize isn't that bad. They got one million rupees in addition.
thats 17,927.60 in USD currently
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on May 24, 2013, 01:13:18 PM
I think the cars are better than 1 million rupees. :lol3:

Bransens got TWO cars (one for winning leg 10, and another for winning the 2nd and 3rd place after race challenge with the Weavers) and $240,000 worth of oil (but they need to stick with BP forever lol). Not only that, they also got a second place cash prize of 100,000 dollars. That's nearly more than $400,000 already I think. :lol3:

Oh and also a Universal Orlando Resort package at Orlando, Florida provided by Travelocity. :oh

I think even with winning 8 legs, Dave and Rachel's prizes aren't anywhere near. :iok
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on May 24, 2013, 01:22:57 PM
Other random prizes in recent seasons I remembered are Steve and Allie's $7,000 by 7UP

Two 55" HD TVs won by Louie and Michael (like, totally lame?)

A kayak for each person won by Gary and Matt

A red cedar sauna and a pair of 52 inch HD LCD TVs won by Meghan and Cheyne

Not to forget that, Tammy and Victor won kayaks too.

It's like... compared to cars... these prizes are miserable and pales in comparison. And I'm glad they stopped giving them out. :lol3: I know that a good Kayak can only cost up to from $500 to $1000 and really... even if they are plated with gold wordings.. it shouldn't be more than $2k worth, which is sad.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: theschnauzers on May 24, 2013, 04:08:56 PM
The Bransons won a lifetime supply of gasoline for the four team members, not oil. And it was valued in gallons not a cash value at the time.
They definitely came out ahead on that, because the median price of gasoline in the U.S. has gone up considerably since their season (i.e., I don't think anyone in the U.S. was paying $3.00/gal. at the time, and now, you cannot find any gas anywhere in the U.S. as low as $3.00/gal. at anytime during the year. (I know that where I'm at the lowest it has been since the beginning of 2012 has been $3.09/gal. last spring, and the lowest this spring has been $3.27/gal. (a few weeks ago); then it went up to $3.79/gal. in less than 48 hours.)
But as I said, the Bransons cleaned up on the gasoline prize.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 26, 2013, 03:10:24 AM
All TARA prizes are awful.  :lol3:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on May 26, 2013, 05:54:40 AM
The Bransons won a lifetime supply of gasoline for the four team members, not oil. And it was valued in gallons not a cash value at the time.
They definitely came out ahead on that, because the median price of gasoline in the U.S. has gone up considerably since their season (i.e., I don't think anyone in the U.S. was paying $3.00/gal. at the time, and now, you cannot find any gas anywhere in the U.S. as low as $3.00/gal. at anytime during the year. (I know that where I'm at the lowest it has been since the beginning of 2012 has been $3.09/gal. last spring, and the lowest this spring has been $3.27/gal. (a few weeks ago); then it went up to $3.79/gal. in less than 48 hours.)
But as I said, the Bransons cleaned up on the gasoline prize.

They probably spent a load of money trying to store all that gasoline.  :lol3:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: theschnauzers on May 26, 2013, 10:41:09 AM
I'm pretty sure BP gave them credit cards to use (which they used during season 8 since for that season only production had teams used the production provided credit cards for both gasoline and airline travel.)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on May 26, 2013, 11:31:05 AM
All TARA prizes are awful.  :lol3:

Not really! They have had some holiday packages which are similar to TAR. And $5000 gift cards... FREE FUEL (but for a year LOL)...

Season 4 had really decent prizes though.

Quote
Leg 1 – A Sony PlayStation 3 and BRAVIA for each team member.
Leg 2 – A Sony VAIO for each team member.
Leg 3 – A vacation package worth US$3,000 to Colombo, Sri Lanka
Leg 4 – US$2,000 each
Leg 5 – Trip for two to the Philippines and US$3,000, and a helicopter ride to Legazpi Airport to be given after all teams had departed in the next leg.
Leg 6 – A vacation package and a dinner for two at the Marina Bay Sands in Singapore, worth US$5,100
Leg 7 had a virtual pit stop with no prize given for the first team. A special prize of an upgrade at any Hilton hotel was awarded to Ethan & Khairie for being the fastest team to complete the Hilton bed-making challenge.
Leg 8 – A 4-day ski vacation at Niseko, Japan worth US$6,000 for the first place team.
Leg 9 – A year's supply of Caltex with Techron worth US$5,000
Leg 10 – A trip to Hilton in the Maldives worth US$6,000
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 28, 2013, 06:45:08 AM
No Dobby, I meant like some of them.

TARA 4's Hilton upgrade was weird. Like those prizes.  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on May 28, 2013, 11:43:07 PM
I'm pretty sure BP gave them credit cards to use (which they used during season 8 since for that season only production had teams used the production provided credit cards for both gasoline and airline travel.)

I know, I was joking.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on May 29, 2013, 01:19:34 AM
All TARA prizes are awful.  :lol3:

Adrian and Collin getting cell phones  :lol3:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 30, 2013, 06:31:27 AM
Who could forget the catamaran prize Charla & Mirna won, but didn't want? :)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on May 30, 2013, 06:35:10 AM
What's a catamaran?

It's a boat.

Oh, uh, yay...?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Daniel on May 30, 2013, 08:10:52 AM
What's a catamaran?

It's a boat.

Oh, uh, yay...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvjo0zSzqfQ :lol:

Even better, on the next season, when Ron & Christina won the same prize they said they knew what it was, responding to Charla & Mirna's reaction :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on June 08, 2013, 09:30:57 PM
Tanzania and Poland flightwise is such a trainwreck <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on June 16, 2013, 06:19:59 AM
Cha Cha and Charla & Mirna made TAR11 at KLIA so fun to watch! That was really a great tactic that I would employ <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: aryanisetiawan on July 18, 2013, 09:30:44 AM
Tanzania and Poland flightwise is such a trainwreck <3
Dustin and Kandice started leg 8 while Eric and Daniel and Guidos hadn't even finished leg 7.
looks like we never had anything like that except for season 21's Turkey-Russia flight. i love airport Dramas, but recent seasons do not show that much.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: nosyrabbit on October 01, 2013, 10:21:53 AM
Tanzania and Poland flightwise is such a trainwreck <3
Dustin and Kandice started leg 8 while Eric and Daniel and Guidos hadn't even finished leg 7.
looks like we never had anything like that except for season 21's Turkey-Russia flight. i love airport Dramas, but recent seasons do not show that much.

Couldn't be more agree. I hope season 23 will give us airport dramas like back then in Tanzania. So depressing yet surprising knowing at the end one of the victim won the season.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: stekay on October 03, 2013, 09:48:28 AM
ChaChaCha & Charla/Mirna are to of the BEST teams ever to play IMO

Also I found out the longest anyone has ran a race without winning a leg is Kent & Vyxsin with 18 legs without a win  :funny:
These are my top 3 teams EVERRRRRR
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ranger1010 on December 03, 2013, 10:48:27 PM
Just out of curiosity, has TAR ever had a season with teams consisting of a returning racer and a different partner?  For the life of me, I can't remember. 
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on December 03, 2013, 11:35:09 PM
Just out of curiosity, has TAR ever had a season with teams consisting of a returning racer and a different partner?  For the life of me, I can't remember.
Like, there have only been 2 seasons with returning players... :lol:
In TAR11 Eric & Danielle were cast, remember? They both had different partners in their original season.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on December 04, 2013, 04:09:38 PM
The thing is most of the racers say: "I would only race again with my previous partner". IDK, I really like seeing teams go back, not only half of it... just my opinion.
Didn't they ask Flo back, but only with Drew and not Zach? She turned them down because she only wanted to Race with Zach.  I guess that's why they went with another hybrid dating team with Eric & Danielle who apparently weren't even really dating.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on December 06, 2013, 04:47:21 AM
The thing is most of the racers say: "I would only race again with my previous partner". IDK, I really like seeing teams go back, not only half of it... just my opinion.
Didn't they ask Flo back, but only with Drew and not Zach? She turned them down because she only wanted to Race with Zach.  I guess that's why they went with another hybrid dating team with Eric & Danielle who apparently weren't even really dating.
So... What was the relationship of Flo & Drew?  :cmaslol It sounds just as random as Mark & Mallory
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on December 06, 2013, 05:05:08 AM
^ Dating.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on December 06, 2013, 05:48:26 AM
^ Dating.
TROLOLOL I just realized I was confusing Derek & Drew with Ken & Gerard xD  :cmas27 :cmas22
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on December 28, 2013, 06:38:59 AM
Could somebody explain, what happened with Hanoi in TAR22? I mean, why are you referring to it as controversal?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARP_Lover on December 28, 2013, 07:08:24 AM
Could somebody explain, what happened with Hanoi in TAR22? I mean, why are you referring to it as controversal?

Try searching it on google. Some weirdos thought it would be fun to rip on TAR because it had a communist song as the RB, the B-52 memorial, etc.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: purefluff on December 28, 2013, 07:29:12 AM
It was considered highly offensive (anti-American by some) to have the racers visit a Vietnamese war memorial which contained a crashed American aircraft.  American soldiers presumably died in the plane.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/cbs-apologizes-for--insensitive--vietnam-segment-on--amazing-race--121704709.html
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on December 28, 2013, 09:07:37 AM
WHAT that seems stupid to me
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: SamualDude on January 21, 2014, 12:51:22 AM
Reviving this old topic because although it is known that the body-building task in TAR 19 was part of a detour, In the NZ TV Guide for this leg (which is only airing for the first time this coming Saturday) it also states that they face body building as part of a Detour. I guess the average NZ Amazing Race viewer who reads it will be confused when the episode airs and there is "no detour"
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: toanglobal on January 21, 2014, 09:59:18 PM
In TAR 21 leg 9 if the chipps accidentally dropped their detour clue and forced to return back to retrieve their ones, would U-Turn board affect them?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Karpov617 on January 30, 2014, 09:26:45 PM
In TAR 21 leg 9 if the chipps accidentally dropped their detour clue and forced to return back to retrieve their ones, would U-Turn board affect them?

How would the U-turn affect the Chippendales if they passed it before Trey & Lexi could use it on them? Also, to my knowledge, if a team dropped a clue they already picked up from a clue box or such, they don't have to retrieve it unless they WANT to. This pertains to lost clues (such as Wil & Tara in the S2 finale). Teams, however, could not pick up another clue from the box if they lost their original clue (such as Freddie & Kendra in S6 Leg 2).

Besides, the alliance's plan was the first team to arrive at the U-Turn board would U-Turn Abbie & Ryan. If Trey & Lexi arrived there and saw both slots weren't used, they would use it on the dating divorcees, not Jaymes & James. The Chippendales would arrive next, and they would U-Turn Trey & Lexi, completing their U-Turn contract.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on February 26, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
TAR21 didn't have a good cast but it had a great boot order.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 27, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
TAR can't continue on like this.  All the Ford and Snapple sponsorships won't be enough to help. They need to make big improvements.

I wholeheartedly agree. I remember reading a post on Rob Has a Website (as well as some posts here) about possible improvements. One of the biggest ones needs to be casting. I feel that , the only good (recent) casts were 17 and 21. I think that CBS should take a look at the Aus2 cast. I could handle a mediocre route if the casting is spot on like it was that season. If we're lucky, maybe CBS will look at the backlash from the casting this season. I would work on the casting, then the route in that order, since most people are going to see the cast first.

I strongly disagree that 17 was a good cast.
I felt the only truely great teams from 17 were Gary & Mallory, Kevin & Michael, Brooke & Claire, and Ron & Tony who didn't even get time to shine.

I still stand by S23 having the best Post UB cast, it just had a horrible boot order!  :groan:

I'll agree however that Aus2 had amazing cast. It's prob one of the finest castings in TAR history.

TAR21 didn't have a good cast but it had a great boot order.

I really didn't like the boot order for 21. One of my favourites were the first boot, slowly followed by everyone else I was rooting for.  Of the final 5, I only cared for the Beekmans.

But, no matter who we root for, we have to remember it's not the producers fault if the season has a bad boot order.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on February 27, 2014, 10:09:32 AM
Casting-wise, TAR22 is the best.

The Final 7 was just simply amazing, minus Bates & Anthony.

Boot-list wise, TAR 23 and 21 was good too.

I genuinely liked the TAR 23 Final Six especially Tim & Marie, as well as the TAR 21 Final Five minus the Beekmans.

TAR 19's cast though....  :funny:

I hated the cast pre-race, but during the race itself, I actually liked almost everyone. The only team I don't like in that season now is Ron & Bill, but that's because they were invisible.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on February 28, 2014, 10:38:32 PM
In conclusion, TAR 20 sucks the most. :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on March 01, 2014, 12:02:49 AM
In conclusion, TAR 20 sucks the most. :funny:

I loved TAR 20. I just hated that Art & JJ and Rachel & Dave made it all the way to the end.

Casting-wise, it was pretty good tbh. The only teams I didn't like were the two mentioned above +Elliot & Andrew.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on March 01, 2014, 05:28:05 AM
TAR20 was a pretty good season imo but that might be overshadowed by the fact it was followed by TAR21.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: stekay on March 01, 2014, 11:23:39 AM
I actually really like 19-22 more than tar23.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on March 16, 2014, 12:31:20 PM
In my opinion TAR19 had an okay cast, only had the boot order been different :res: And TAR23 could've gone from very good to really bad if only the NFLs didn't have their flight problems. I mean, that season would've sucked without TimMarie :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Norwegian Boy on April 03, 2014, 12:30:13 PM
I disagree with most of you on this one! Season 19 and 20 had a great cast  :hoot:, 21 are okey, 22 are boring (Am I the only one who thinks this  ???) and season 23 is good too.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Karpov617 on April 04, 2014, 02:27:51 AM
Cast-wise, my favorite out of the finished post-UB seasons are S23 and S21. The frontrunners in S22 were a bit ... flat. That's why my favorites from that season were Pam & Winnie and Joey & Meghan. S20 teams were a bit unmemorable for me, and in S19, I really liked Bill & Cathi and Ernie & Cindy.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 05, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
Taking into account the route, tasks, and team cast, here are my RAW thoughts (not based on editing) on the post-UB seasons excluding the current TAR24:

TAR19: This season featuring the first ever double-elimination at a single Pit Stop had high promise. The route delivered with exclusive firsthand features of new countries such as Indonesia, Malawi, Denmark, and Belgium, but stumbled with the tasks. Remember the predictable disassemble/reassemble Roadblock in the second Thailand leg? The cast was decent, but had a dry sense of personality. In my opinion, Andy & Tommy trucking through tasks and Bill & Cathi's surprise finishes saved this season.

TAR20: This is the last season we've seen teams travel to a newly visited country (Azerbaijan) and it was a drama-filled run indeed with the notoriety of Brendon & Rachel loudly on the loose. The route in the first half of the Race was really good with a diverse amount of locomotives and regional areas within a country. Tasks happened to be quite interesting. However, the last half of the race starting from Tanzania went downhill especially with the Hiroshima-Osaka, Japan visit that could have been easily enjoyable (didn't like any of the tasks, especially the Japanese game show rehash). Teams this season each had their dominant traits whether physically, mentally, or verbally. Like what Phil stated in his pre-season cast assessment, any team had the ability to be champions.

TAR21: Based on editing, the first season to not feature a new country proved to be a turn in the wrong direction. However, based on raw scenes, this could be a decent race. The route was marginal since the first 2/3 of the race stabbed the season with strictly airport to airport locomotion. As for the tasks, most have promise. Casting this season happened to be very interesting with many regular-appearance folks, interesting semi-celebrities with key personalities, and two teams with rolling luggage like Maria & Tiffany.

TAR22: A season with a new special region, but no confirmable new country. The route had a steady flow of locomotion, but the tasks were generic and one leg happened to not involve any cultural or historical reference to New Zealand at all, but rather Chuck & Wynona-land. I'd consider this season as ethnically diverse, but the cast, like TAR19, had dry personalities just scratching the surface of their real hearts.

TAR23: Like season 21, this race featured zero new countries, but had a route that had hope. I have seen better tasks on the other hand. (Like seriously, stand like a statue? That's what they've come down to?) Most of the teams this season had dominant personalities such as pro athletes and athletic heiresses, perfectionist doctors, and friends and family who work well together. This season happened to be one of the few that actually had flavorful personalities, whether sweet or sour.

RAW SEASON RANKING (Best to Not-So-Great): TAR23, TAR22, TAR20, TAR21, TAR19
WITH EDITING RANKING: TAR22, TAR19, TAR23, TAR20, TAR21
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: airn10 on April 08, 2014, 07:26:37 AM
Okay, I'm off topic, but I have a question about Season 11.

I just read that some racers ran into Chip in the airport in Miami  :hoot:

Could someone point me in the right direction where I might be able to watch this? I have Googled and YouTubed the past 48 and have come up with nothing.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 09, 2014, 04:55:10 PM
Okay, I'm off topic, but I have a question about Season 11.

I just read that some racers ran into Chip in the airport in Miami  :hoot:

Could someone point me in the right direction where I might be able to watch this? I have Googled and YouTubed the past 48 and have come up with nothing.

Thank you.
Oooh, TAR11 is quite a long time ago, I doubt there would be visual evidence available (photos maybe, but most likely not videos). ??? Plus, I'm not sure which winner you are talking about, TAR4's semi-celebrity Chip or TAR5's first African-American winners Chip.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: airn10 on April 09, 2014, 06:46:59 PM
I wasn't sure which Chip either, but for some reason I guessed it was Chip & Kim.

I figured it was probably too long ago, but I gave it a shot anyway.

Thanks
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Karpov617 on April 11, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
If they win they'll be as worst as Josh & Brent as winners

Why are Josh & Brent bad winners? If you ask me, it was great that they won. :)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 11, 2014, 10:18:42 PM
If they win they'll be as worst as Josh & Brent as winners

Why are Josh & Brent bad winners? If you ask me, it was great that they won. :)

They aren't horrible i.e bad winners in the sense that they were horrible people, but it's their lack of competitive drive that ruined them for me. During their whole nightmare airplane debacle, they didn't run through those legs, they just limped through those legs. They wanted to be with Abbie/Ryan even on a Double U-Turn leg and it's just something I hated while there were teams like Natalie/Nadiya who were just so happy to be there, Josh & Brent were just THERE. That's it. I really want CaroJen to win though!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on April 12, 2014, 08:40:21 AM
If they win they'll be as worst as Josh & Brent as winners

Why are Josh & Brent bad winners? If you ask me, it was great that they won. :)

Because I found them rather annoying and grating, and even though they did feel the need to be there and win fairly, I feel that the Dream Team (especially NaNa) were more deserving winners.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Puppet on April 12, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
If they win they'll be as worst as Josh & Brent as winners

Why are Josh & Brent bad winners? If you ask me, it was great that they won. :)

I felt that they didn't really want to win when they offered Abbie & Ryan to U-Turn them in Amsterdam (correct me if I am wrong). It's like Chips, NaNa and Trexi really wanted to win, and they won accidentally because the others couldn't do the language roadblock. But I was overall neutral to them, but didn't felt that they should win.

P.S. I would love to see Country win this season <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bookworm on April 19, 2014, 08:04:19 AM
If they win they'll be as worst as Josh & Brent as winners

Why are Josh & Brent bad winners? If you ask me, it was great that they won. :)

Because I found them rather annoying and grating, and even though they did feel the need to be there and win fairly, I feel that the Dream Team (especially NaNa) were more deserving winners.

I liked Josh and Brent, but I liked the TWINNIES! more.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on April 26, 2014, 05:55:58 PM
Okay someone tell me I'm not insane because there are some TAR fans who are actually saying the early seasons are horrible garbage.  What!?
Now I know these aren't just people trolling, it's actual TAR fans who believe seasons like TAR3 and TAR5 suck compared to the likes of anything post-TAR12.  Is this part of the strange "casuals" mindset?  Or have I been totally wrong this whole time?

Please, someone tell me I'm not crazy in thinking this is the first time I've ever seen anyone think the early seasons were anything but good? ESPECIALLY compared to contemporary TAR?  :nut:  :crazy:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on April 26, 2014, 06:09:53 PM
You're not crazy, you're not wrong.  You're not the only one who loves those seasons and thinks that post-TAR 12 seasons can't stand comparisons against previous ones.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on April 26, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
Oh good, thank you.  I was starting to doubt my entire TAR-watching experience. 

Had David & Margaretta trekking down to the Fast Forward at Victoria Falls, Teri's pants falling down, Flo's basket meltdown, Charla getting electrocuted, Jon doing the final Road Block naked, the best, closest finish ever, Gretchen getting her head busted open, the Paolos putting on their underwear over their clothes and Mama Weaver getting run over by an Amish buggy all been a dream, I started to wonder.

 :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 26, 2014, 09:23:37 PM
Okay someone tell me I'm not insane because there are some TAR fans who are actually saying the early seasons are horrible garbage.  What!?
Now I know these aren't just people trolling, it's actual TAR fans who believe seasons like TAR3 and TAR5 suck compared to the likes of anything post-TAR12.  Is this part of the strange "casuals" mindset?  Or have I been totally wrong this whole time?

Please, someone tell me I'm not crazy in thinking this is the first time I've ever seen anyone think the early seasons were anything but good? ESPECIALLY compared to contemporary TAR?  :nut:  :crazy:
I believe a few of the frequent fans as I like to call them are referring to the pioneer seasons' TEAM DYNAMICS in general since the editing was awesome at delivering natural personalities, the sights were astounding, and the tasks were simplistic, but opened people's minds about worldwide cultures and ecotourism.

Remember, some frequent and bandwagon fans only watch TAR for the liking and bashing of teams, and they don't give a darn grain of sand for the tasks or sights they travel to. I know this because I have chatted to a couple of Chicago friends about TAR and all they only mention is this team there, this team that, zero mentions of the sights or tasks in the episode. :umn:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 26, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
Since we're talking about the earlier seasons, I would like to know what everyone else's favorite pioneer season is (from TAR1-TAR5). It's definitely how TAR got its name in the 1st place, pun intended.

I happened to thoroughly enjoy TAR5 because there were teams of different backgrounds ranging from the infamous Charla & Mirna to the broken ox classics of Colin & Christie. The route was absolutely exhilarating as it touched base on all six inhabited continents with tasks each holding a taste of their culture and adventure outings. Who could ever forget Karen rolling around in a Zorb and almost beating Colin scaling a Filipino cliff, Charla handling a giant chunk of rare beef and outsmarting her dwarfism, Bob & Joyce ziplining into a hotel pool and romantic caviar dinner, and visiting the ancient land of Egypt with the Pyramids of Giza and the Sphinx?

And also...

:partie: 1,000 post, 1-0-0-0, 1,000 post, 1-0-0-0
:partie: :conf: :ya3: :ya3: :ya3: :conf:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on April 26, 2014, 11:42:54 PM
Congrats on Post #1000  :conf:

For TAR1-5, my favorite has to be TAR3 with TAR5 being a very, very close 2nd.

Both seasons had an excellent mix of teams, both had awesome boot orders! (YES!) But I'd give the edge to TAR3 for more memorable moments, at least for me.  Things like:
-basket boats or basket bikes, or really EVERYTHING about the Vietnam Legs.
-Dieselgate
-"My pants are falling down!"
-Ken & Gerard almost getting run over by a train
-Heather's donkey faceplant
-the epic ditching by Ken & Gerard of the Wonder Twins-
everything Flo
-Teri & Ian<3
-Andre & Damon getting detained
-"Why did you have to take your pants off!?!"
-Teams running around, out of breath in the Alps
-Paper Underwear
-"What Happens If I Slip? Am I Just Hanging Off A Cliff?"
 :luvya: :luvya:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bookworm on April 29, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
I liked all of the "pioneer" Race seasons, but the locations of TAR5 are just too amazing to forget. Charla and Mirna were great, especially compared to their nemeses, Colin and Christie. Chip and Kim and the Bowling Moms were funny, and though I disliked some teams, they weren't unbearable.

I liked most of the locations in all 5 seasons, with some of the most notable ones being Tunisia, Brazil, New Zealand, Switzerland, Italy, Egypt, and the Philippines. The Race needs to visit some of these locations more often/again, ESPECIALLY the Philippines (after the monsoon business clears up) and South Africa.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Karpov617 on May 03, 2014, 02:47:02 AM
I always group the seasons like this: S1, S2-4, S5-9, S10-11, S12-17, S18 onwards. And my favorite period is S12-17. But to be honest, I have rewatched S5 the most because it's arguably the best season in the series. :hoot: It had a good storyline, good drama, great teams (both for being likeable and dislikeable), great tasks and locations (one of two seasons that visited the 6 continents). The only downside of it was the non-split of Roadblocks. But then again, I don't know how much better or how much worse it would have been had this rule been in place.  ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 03, 2014, 11:10:51 AM
I always group the seasons like this: S1, S2-4, S5-9, S10-11, S12-17, S18 onwards. And my favorite period is S12-17. But to be honest, I have rewatched S5 the most because it's arguably the best season in the series. :hoot: It had a good storyline, good drama, great teams (both for being likeable and dislikeable), great tasks and locations (one of two seasons that visited the 6 continents). The only downside of it was the non-split of Roadblocks. But then again, I don't know how much better or how much worse it would have been had this rule been in place.  ???
Linda & Karen would have won TAR5 due to Kim, Christie, and Nicole always forcing Chip, Colin, and Brandon to do all the Roadblocks. The bowling moms had pretty much an even split of RBs throughout the race. :hearts:

I agree with S11-17 being the best era. Hands down the most advanced in editing, awesome designed tasks with much detail, and teams being memorable for one thing or another.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 03, 2014, 10:16:39 PM
Linda & Karen would have won TAR5 due to Kim, Christie, and Nicole always forcing Chip, Colin, and Brandon to do all the Roadblocks. The bowling moms had pretty much an even split of RBs throughout the race. :hearts:
OMG!!!! What could have been!  :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Leafsfan on May 11, 2014, 04:40:53 PM
:lol3:

Eh IDK I really liked TAR6. REBECCA <33333333333333333 GUS & HERA <333333333 KRIS & JON <333333333333333333 MEREDITH & MARIA <3333333333333333333333 DON AND MARY JEAN <33333333333333333333333 LENA & KRISTY <3333333333333333

Racer and I have a hypothesis that if Rebecca and Zach team up in TAR that they will be at the finish line by the time all the other teams have completed the first leg. :lol:

LOL Ikr
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on May 11, 2014, 06:34:35 PM
:lol3:

Eh IDK I really liked TAR6. REBECCA <33333333333333333 GUS & HERA <333333333 KRIS & JON <333333333333333333 MEREDITH & MARIA <3333333333333333333333 DON AND MARY JEAN <33333333333333333333333 LENA & KRISTY <3333333333333333

Racer and I have a hypothesis that if Rebecca and Zach team up in TAR that they will be at the finish line by the time all the other teams have completed the first leg. :lol:

LOL Ikr

<3 TAR5/6/10 are my favourite seasons of all time <3 and TARAus2 <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: airn10 on May 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
<3 TAR5/6/10 are my favourite seasons of all time <3 and TARAus2 <3

I agree with you 100%! I think the casting alone made these seasons worth watching over and over again!

I also put 9 and 7 in this category.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: SamualDude on May 11, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
<3 TAR5/6/10 are my favourite seasons of all time <3 and TARAus2 <3

I agree with you 100%! I think the casting alone made these seasons worth watching over and over again!

I also put 9 and 7 in this category.

People don't like Season 7 or 9 for some reason, I really enjoyed both of them.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Vitoko on May 15, 2014, 03:42:05 AM
So for the past two weeks I've been watching older seasons just to have something else going in my second monitor while I'm working... since not so long ago I rewatched Season 1, I started with S2, S3, S4, S5...

2 and 3 are really enjoyable, Flo was really annoying to have in the background because she would just keep whinning, felt so bad for Zach... oh well... what can you do... the entire time I was wondering how the NOW standar rules would've affected those seasons...

4 was pretty forgetable, really unlikable cast at the end... felt so bad for Millie&Chuck, bullied by Reichen and/or Chip, Kelly&Jon... David&Jeff were nothing, not remarkable in any way... Steve&Dave, Monica&Sheree and Jon&Al were the only likeable teams... recently stumble across a reddit AMA thread made by Josh from Steve&Josh about his participation in the race, nobody seemed to care about the show, some people recognized him, and even ask him about some of the tasks... kind of interesting... especially how he lost total interest on the show after they got eliminated...

5 was really goooooooood, Chip&Kim might be the most fun, humble and positive winners so far, loved that thought/strategy of just letting Colin&Cristie selfdestruct instead of going against them, Kim could've done more than 1 roadblock though, it got kind of annyoing at the end were all the girls had just 1 RB... Charla&Mirna were just fantastic, I find myself rooting for them even though I already knew the results... and then you have Colin&Cristie, probably the most hateable guy I've seen in the race... I couldn't stop laughing when he almost got himself arrested, while being a douchbag to everyone, racers, locals, everyone around him... can't believe they asked them to comeback to All-Stars... more surprising when you realize they were still together at the time O.o

I'm starting with S5 and I'm already regretting this decision... Jonathan is making it so hard to watch... can't understand how can you stay with someone who treats you that way... it doesn't matter how stressful the race is...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: saacman on May 15, 2014, 03:02:15 PM
Is there somewhere online to watch those early seasons?  I've been watching some previous seasons on Amazon Prime, but they don't go nearly that far back.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on May 15, 2014, 03:05:57 PM
Is there somewhere online to watch those early seasons?  I've been watching some previous seasons on Amazon Prime, but they don't go nearly that far back.

Try on YouTube, some time ago seasons were posted there, but uploaders channels were shut down. I don't how many of them still are there now but...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Maanca on May 15, 2014, 03:30:25 PM
So for the past two weeks I've been watching older seasons just to have something else going in my second monitor while I'm working... since not so long ago I rewatched Season 1, I started with S2, S3, S4, S5...

2 and 3 are really enjoyable, Flo was really annoying to have in the background because she would just keep whinning, felt so bad for Zach... oh well... what can you do... the entire time I was wondering how the NOW standar rules would've affected those seasons...

4 was pretty forgetable, really unlikable cast at the end... felt so bad for Millie&Chuck, bullied by Reichen and/or Chip, Kelly&Jon... David&Jeff were nothing, not remarkable in any way... Steve&Dave, Monica&Sheree and Jon&Al were the only likeable teams... recently stumble across a reddit AMA thread made by Josh from Steve&Josh about his participation in the race, nobody seemed to care about the show, some people recognized him, and even ask him about some of the tasks... kind of interesting... especially how he lost total interest on the show after they got eliminated...

5 was really goooooooood, Chip&Kim might be the most fun, humble and positive winners so far, loved that thought/strategy of just letting Colin&Cristie selfdestruct instead of going against them, Kim could've done more than 1 roadblock though, it got kind of annyoing at the end were all the girls had just 1 RB... Charla&Mirna were just fantastic, I find myself rooting for them even though I already knew the results... and then you have Colin&Cristie, probably the most hateable guy I've seen in the race... I couldn't stop laughing when he almost got himself arrested, while being a douchbag to everyone, racers, locals, everyone around him... can't believe they asked them to comeback to All-Stars... more surprising when you realize they were still together at the time O.o

I'm starting with S5 and I'm already regretting this decision... Jonathan is making it so hard to watch... can't understand how can you stay with someone who treats you that way... it doesn't matter how stressful the race is...

I never saw this, but I heard after that season Jonathan & Victoria went on Fear Factor and again got mouthy with Joe Rogan.

But I agree about Season 5, it's the season that really got me into Amazing Race (I've seen all prior seasons since then, though).
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on May 19, 2014, 11:08:10 AM
I've been thinking about the modern TAR (as far back as S20) and how it's severely been declining, and tbh it hit a new low in TAR 24.

Season 20 is probably one of my favorite seasons that I've ever watched. (I've been watching since only Season 17 :lol:  :-[ )  I think what really makes S20 a good season is the casting of older & more average people. A lot of the tasks were on point and so was the drama. I wish they would stop casting gimmicky type of teams and start casting more of these people from S20.

Season 21 started out really boring and the teams were eh. I think it hit its peak once it reached Europe and we saw the collapse of teams like James & Abba, Ryan & Abbie, and Natalie & Nadiya. I would have been fine with any of the Final 3 winning, though I was really rooting for the Chippendales. I loved the fact that the underdogs won this time around. And who can forget that awesome memory task that led teams into the night! That's how you know when you have a good task: teams spend hours on it.

Season 22 had a picturesque batch of locations. All of the teams were very likeable and the tasks worked out nicely. A little fun fact that I love: I believe SIX of the 12 legs involved self-driving!! :hrt: It also featured a night leg, something we don't see too often these days.

Season 23 I didn't really like. It had a terrible first leg, a pretty good second leg, okay third & fourth legs, REALLY liked the fifth leg, then I lost interest after that. What really turned me off from this season was the helping-each-other thing. Nicole was basically useless towards the end! I loved the Japan leg when Marie kicked ass and surpassed all three teams after arriving at the Roadblock last. Then... the finale sucked.

Season 24 I can't really comment on, I don't quite know why. I actually grew to like a lot of the teams in the start. The winners were really unlikeable in my book.. sorry. Once the amount of teams began to narrow down, I really started to wish that they saved ""All Stars"" for a later time. We could have had teams like Tim & Marie (I know they turned it down), James & Jaymes, Max & Katie, Bill & Cathi, and maybe even Pam & Winnie.

My ranking of my "Modern TAR"
1. TAR 20
2. TAR 22
3. TAR 21
4. TAR 23/TAR 24 (torn between)
5. TAR 23/TAR 24 (torn between)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 20, 2014, 12:08:43 AM
So I decided to randomly pop in my TAR10 DVD this evening and I watched Leg 5 (Vietnam > India) and OMG. It was amazing.  Half the episode was amazing airport drama, the rest was the dependable insanity of India. 

Man, TAR these days definitely does not measure up.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: SamualDude on May 20, 2014, 12:12:46 AM
So I decided to randomly pop in my TAR10 DVD this evening and I watched Leg 5 (Vietnam > India) and OMG. It was amazing.  Half the episode was amazing airport drama, the rest was the dependable insanity of India. 

Man, TAR these days definitely does not measure up.

TAR10 had some amazing legs to be honest, I really enjoyed the second Vietnam leg, China was a very good leg because it was something we hadn't seen before in a first leg. Kuwait, Mauritius and Madagascar legs were great as well. Helsinki was alright and I liked the Ukraine leg, Shame that Ukraine won't appear again for a while.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 20, 2014, 06:10:42 PM
So I decided to randomly pop in my TAR10 DVD this evening and I watched Leg 5 (Vietnam > India) and OMG. It was amazing.  Half the episode was amazing airport drama, the rest was the dependable insanity of India. 

Man, TAR these days definitely does not measure up.
Imagine if Vipul & Arti actually made it to Leg 5. :luvya:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Vitoko on May 20, 2014, 09:08:26 PM
I'm still rewatching old seasons...

I decided to mix it up and rewatch TARLA 1... and surprisingly still holds up... Really fun to watch even knowing the outcomes, legs and everything...

And then I decided to watch Season 7, and you know what I just noticed, they reused one of the early locations for TARLA 1... Pizac's Marketplace in Peru, was used as a route marker in Leg 1 of Season 7, with a cluebox... and then in TARLA1 they reused it in Leg 6, they marked a store with the Blue/Black Flag so the owner would give away the next clue... I didn't notice that before so it made me smile :)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Karpov617 on May 29, 2014, 01:09:14 AM
I'm currently watching Season 1 and I've noticed something. Teams today are more naive on how teams should treat other teams. The other teams were decrying Joe & Bill for their dubious actions, but other than blocking the other teams at security to get on their flight, anything Joe & Bill did was fair game.

It got better as seasons went by but now it seems teams are devolving in terms of their competitveness; it's becoming petty. But I don't know, I'm probably still bitter from last season. I just wish last season never even happened.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on June 03, 2014, 02:22:14 PM
Continuing my TAR10 rewatch.  The Madagascar Leg was insane.  The mattress Detour was hilarious,  the eating FF was great because it didn't automatically give the teams the win, and the Marked for Elimination actually playing out at the end. Awesome episode and Leg.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on June 03, 2014, 03:04:36 PM
And, of course, the BQs beating the teams who went after the FF  :) .
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jobby on June 08, 2014, 12:00:44 AM
David and Mary / Lyn and Karlyn <3

Lyn mentioned before that she would do the race again... lol but I guess there's about as much chance as JFP will appear on Survivor again.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on July 02, 2014, 08:18:56 AM
TAR 20 had so many conflicts :lol:

Dave & Rachel vs. Art & JJ
Art & JJ vs. Nary & Jamie
Art & JJ vs. Brendon & Rachel
Brendon & Rachel vs. Vanessa & Ralph
Vanessa & Ralph vs. Kerri & Stacy
Kerri & Stacy vs. Elliot & Andrew
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Karpov617 on July 02, 2014, 10:09:41 AM
TAR 20 had so many conflicts :lol:

Dave & Rachel vs. Art & JJ
Art & JJ vs. Nary & Jamie
Art & JJ vs. Brendon & Rachel
Brendon & Rachel vs. Vanessa & Ralph
Vanessa & Ralph vs. Kerri & Stacy
Kerri & Stacy vs. Elliot & Andrew

I never saw the Deleted Scenes for season 20 :( What's up with Kerri & Stacy?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on July 03, 2014, 12:17:30 AM
Elliot (or Andrew) went up to the ticket counter next to Kerri & Stacy and just stood & listened to their conversation with the ticket person. Kerri & Stacy got upset over that. Andrew (or Elliot) made a comment and referred to them as "Mississippi" and one of the girls got snappy by saying "We have names." A bit overdramatic hehe.

I forgot what happened between Vanessa & Ralph and Kerri & Stacy, but I recall Kerri & Stacy nicknaming Ralph "Ralphasaurus" or something. They were pretty crazy for 8th-place finishers :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Karpov617 on July 26, 2014, 11:48:48 PM
In Season 14, the first Thailand leg, Victor & Tammy, Jaime & Cara, and Mark & Michael checked in at the pit stop almost at the same minute. But in the next leg, Victor & Tammy departed at 9:27 PM, Jaime & Cara at 12:31 AM, and Mark & Michael at 12:46 AM. Does anyone know why this 1 minute difference became a 3 hour difference? ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Dånooky on July 27, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
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Gutsy Grannies appreciation post <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on July 27, 2014, 10:01:35 PM
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Gutsy Grannies appreciation post <3
Best grandmother team yet! :hrt:
They went from 10th to 8th by surprise.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on July 28, 2014, 01:30:10 PM
Continuing my TAR10 rewatch.  The Madagascar Leg was insane.  The mattress Detour was hilarious,  the eating FF was great because it didn't automatically give the teams the win, and the Marked for Elimination actually playing out at the end. Awesome episode and Leg.

TAR10 is my favourite season <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: couchracer on August 13, 2014, 03:32:35 PM
The most graceful exits awards go to Tar 24 for the cowboy rides away-Cord,
and Tar Canada 2 for ballet-Rex.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Gingerbeasts on October 03, 2014, 07:47:46 AM
The best part of TAR 10 beside the BQ's??

The music challenge at Ukraine. Lyn & Karlyn, The BQs are my favorite!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Gingerbeasts on October 03, 2014, 07:51:58 AM
A lot of people don't agree with me but for me personally, TAR14 is one of the best season tbh. Yeah, the route is underwhelmed but the cast are amazing and the task are top notch (Cheese rolling, Thai's karaoke madness, Chinese food order).

It's a good season
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 12, 2014, 11:26:34 AM
Tanzania and Poland flightwise is such a trainwreck <3
Dustin and Kandice started leg 8 while Eric and Daniel and Guidos hadn't even finished leg 7.
looks like we never had anything like that except for season 21's Turkey-Russia flight. i love airport Dramas, but recent seasons do not show that much.

Couldn't be more agree. I hope season 23 will give us airport dramas like back then in Tanzania. So depressing yet surprising knowing at the end one of the victim won the season.

I bet u were happy with the Portugal leg in S23 then lol
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Leafsfan on October 12, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
TAR 17 Geography Task.

IKR I liked this task lol even though it could have been done anywhere.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: stekay on January 19, 2015, 05:15:08 AM
I only liked carojen in the final 7 all the boots previous to that were tragic.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on January 19, 2015, 06:00:21 AM
I only liked carojen in the final 7 all the boots previous to that were tragic.

brenchel
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bookworm on January 19, 2015, 06:32:52 AM
I only liked carojen in the final 7 all the boots previous to that were tragic.

brenchel
JJ
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARloveit on January 19, 2015, 10:05:20 AM
I only liked carojen in the final 7 all the boots previous to that were tragic.

brenchel
JJ
Afghanimals
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on January 20, 2015, 05:43:21 AM
I only liked carojen in the final 7 all the boots previous to that were tragic.

brenchel
JJ
Afghanimals
Cowboys  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on January 20, 2015, 06:23:44 AM
I only liked carojen in the final 7 all the boots previous to that were tragic.

brenchel
JJ
Afghanimals
Cowboys  :funny:
no
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on January 21, 2015, 03:05:25 AM
Not to mention the Globetrotters by virtue of being towards the bottom, not bullying women and not urinating on libraries, were actually pretty decent in 24?  :ascared
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARloveit on January 21, 2015, 03:11:19 AM
Not to mention the Globetrotters by virtue of being towards the bottom, not bullying women and not urinating on libraries, were actually pretty decent in 24?  :ascared
Now that I think about it, 24's cast is actually not that bad if you ignore the threepeaters and Dave/Connor...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on January 21, 2015, 04:25:34 AM
Not to mention the Globetrotters by virtue of being towards the bottom, not bullying women and not urinating on libraries, were actually pretty decent in 24?  :ascared
Now that I think about it, 24's cast is actually not that bad if you ignore the threepeaters and Dave/Connor...

I feel they were edited horribly and had we recieved better editing and four teams other than the ones listed above it might even be above TAR21 as a season (it would still take a shelacking for that route)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on February 07, 2015, 10:13:16 AM
Is Philippines and Australia are originally featured in TAR24? If so, which place they will possibly visit in Australia since I think the two Philippines leg in TAR25 are the original Philippines leg TAR24. ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on February 08, 2015, 03:00:06 AM
Is Philippines and Australia are originally featured in TAR24? If so, which place they will possibly visit in Australia since I think the two Philippines leg in TAR25 are the original Philippines leg TAR24. ???

Ethiopia was also meant to be visited / i think it would be

1. China
2. Philippines
3. Philippines
4. Australia
5. Australia
6. Sri Lanka
7. Sri Lanka
8. Ethiopia
9. Italy
10. Italy
11. UK
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 10, 2015, 09:48:00 PM
Is Philippines and Australia are originally featured in TAR24? If so, which place they will possibly visit in Australia since I think the two Philippines leg in TAR25 are the original Philippines leg TAR24. ???

Ethiopia was also meant to be visited / i think it would be

1. China
2. Philippines
3. Philippines
4. Australia
5. Australia
6. Sri Lanka
7. Sri Lanka
8. Ethiopia
9. Italy
10. Italy
11. UK
Seems like a better route, but three double-Legging countries are still :faint:.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bookworm on February 10, 2015, 10:09:19 PM
I don't recall Ethiopia being planned OR two legs in Australia. I think that original route looked more like, if not:
1. China
2. Philippines
3. Philippines
4. Australia
5. Sri Lanka
6. Sri Lanka
7. Italy
8. Italy
9. Switzerland
10. Spain
11. UK
12. USA
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 10, 2015, 11:27:21 PM
I don't recall Ethiopia being planned OR two legs in Australia. I think that original route looked more like, if not:
1. China
2. Philippines
3. Philippines
4. Australia
5. Sri Lanka
6. Sri Lanka
7. Italy
8. Italy
9. Switzerland
10. Spain
11. UK
12. USA

It could be Philippines having one leg, and Australia with two legs.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: fossil-racer on February 10, 2015, 11:35:32 PM
1 china
2-3 Philippines
4-5 australia
6 ethopia
7 sri lanka
8 italy
9 switzerland
10 spain
11 uk
12 usa
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on February 11, 2015, 01:21:35 AM
Is Philippines and Australia are originally featured in TAR24? If so, which place they will possibly visit in Australia since I think the two Philippines leg in TAR25 are the original Philippines leg TAR24. ???

Ethiopia was also meant to be visited / i think it would be

1. China
2. Philippines
3. Philippines
4. Australia
5. Australia
6. Sri Lanka
7. Sri Lanka
8. Ethiopia
9. Italy
10. Italy
11. UK

Thank you. Btw I read somewhere that Melbourne and Mildura (Never heard of this town ??? ) might be featured in original TAR 24 visit, but I not sure it is just a pure speculation.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2015, 01:14:55 PM
There was no evidence for Ethiopia I don't think.
Had some good evidence for Melbourne that did not happen.  :'(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on April 18, 2015, 08:09:55 PM
If the race were 12 legs, I'd have a race like this:

Leg 1 : Los Angeles, CA --> Caracas, Venezuela (New city to start the season)
Leg 2 : Caracas, Venezuela --> Angel Falls, Venezuela (To add some tropical to the route)
Leg 3 : Angel Falls, Venezuela --> Nadi, Fiji (to the south pacific)
Leg 4 : Nadi, Fiji --> Coromandel, New Zealand (fly to Auckland, passing through Hamilton and Paeroa)
Leg 5 : New Zealand --> Mount Fuji, Japan (Via Tokyo City, and into the countryside)
Leg 6 : Mount Fuji Japan --> Katmandu, Nepal (into Katmandu, and then into the countryside)
Leg 7 : Langtang National Park, Nepal --> Harare, Zimbabwe (first time in TAR, and a nice change)
Leg 8 : Harare, Zimbabwe --> Charara Safari Area, Zimbabwe (scenic, exotic and nice)
Leg 9 : Charara Safari Area, Zimbabwe --> Corfu Island, Greece  (beautiful, luxurious and never seen before)
Leg 10 : Corfu, Greece -->Amalfi Coast, Italy (a beautiful and exotic paradise also known as Capri - Costa Di Amalfi)
Leg 11 : Amalfi Coast, Italy --> Toulouse, France  (then onto the Pyrenees national park at the south of France)
Leg 12 : Pyrenees, France --> Vancouver, Canada --> San Francisco, CA [Finish] (visiting Capilano Suspension Bridge, Stanley Park and VC island)

I was considering adding Slovenia instead of Corfu, but couldn't as both are amazing destinations.

Non-Eliminations:  Legs 4, 7 and 10
Fast Forwards:  Legs 4 and 9
Double U-Turns:  Legs 5 and 9
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2015, 08:39:27 PM
I would LOVe that route!!  All my dream-come-true places!

:bigwelcome to RFF, Wadsy591!

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on April 18, 2015, 09:21:02 PM
Yeah believe me it took me a long time to come up with this list...

As for leg 9, I couldn't decide between either Corfu, Greece or the country of Montenegro. Either, or, really... lol. Less legs in Asia and South America, more legs in the South Pacific and Europe.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on April 19, 2015, 10:55:17 AM
This might be worthy of a thread of it's own, but thought I'd just post it here. 

Now that we're getting closer to the Final Leg (S26), there seems to be a lot of discussion about what people don't want to see, and the likelihood of it being brought down due to the leg design, so it got me thinking, which Final Legs from past seasons people actually think are great. 
Personally, I feel that the layout for most final Legs can be quite linear, and once a team gets in front, they kinda stay there till they reach the Finish. E.g S19, S23.  -  Or the legs just bad in general. E.g S22, S20.

The only Seasons I can think of the top of my head that had great Final Legs were S25 and S21.

So basically, I'm just curious to see which Seasons you consider to be the Cream of the Crop when it comes to executing the Final Leg?  ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: stekay on April 19, 2015, 11:10:48 AM
season 12 had one of the best final tasks
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on April 19, 2015, 07:59:06 PM
This might be worthy of a thread of it's own, but thought I'd just post it here. 

Now that we're getting closer to the Final Leg (S26), there seems to be a lot of discussion about what people don't want to see, and the likelihood of it being brought down due to the leg design, so it got me thinking, which Final Legs from past seasons people actually think are great. 
Personally, I feel that the layout for most final Legs can be quite linear, and once a team gets in front, they kinda stay there till they reach the Finish. E.g S19, S23.  -  Or the legs just bad in general. E.g S22, S20.

The only Seasons I can think of the top of my head that had great Final Legs were S25 and S21.

So basically, I'm just curious to see which Seasons you consider to be the Cream of the Crop when it comes to executing the Final Leg?  ???
I like the final leg of 12 13 14 21 25
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Gingerbeasts on April 20, 2015, 09:55:15 AM
I just like a final leg where everyone has a chance of being a winner like 11, 12, 14, 21, 25... I hope 26 will be good because I love the season so far
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on April 20, 2015, 10:49:31 AM
I just like a final leg where everyone has a chance of being a winner like 11, 12, 14, 21, 25... I hope 26 will be good because I love the season so far

I agree with all except Season 11. That one will always be the worst final leg ever to me.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Gingerbeasts on April 21, 2015, 04:00:52 AM
I just like a final leg where everyone has a chance of being a winner like 11, 12, 14, 21, 25... I hope 26 will be good because I love the season so far

I agree with all except Season 11. That one will always be the worst final leg ever to me.

11 is a great season, the final task are quite great but the worst thing about it is a winner actually (which I still cannot accept the fact that the worst team is winning) (:;)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 21, 2015, 04:55:51 PM
I just like a final leg where everyone has a chance of being a winner like 11, 12, 14, 21, 25... I hope 26 will be good because I love the season so far

I agree with all except Season 11. That one will always be the worst final leg ever to me.

11 is a great season, the final task are quite great but the worst thing about it is a winner actually (which I still cannot accept the fact that the worst team is winning) (:;)
Eric & Danielle's win is debatable as the worst winner moment, but the route is far from atrocious compared to the <dis>likes of TAR22 and TAR24. Honolulu + San Francisco is a Leg that I find unique with the cave search/rowing against Hawaiian waves Detour and the final task testing the teams' social knowledge of their race partner. Intense editing brought the finale together, and surely the unaired tasks (cliff dive and Grateful Dead house) would have bettered the route though I still enjoy how it aired on TV.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bookworm on April 21, 2015, 05:11:27 PM
How is the route of TAR22 bad?
It had New Zealand, Bali, Botswana, and the race's first visits to Northern Ireland and Bora Bora! Very exotic and varied imo (except Switzerland)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on April 22, 2015, 01:22:57 AM
How is the route of TAR22 bad?
It had New Zealand, Bali, Botswana, and the race's first visits to Northern Ireland and Bora Bora! Very exotic and varied imo (except Switzerland)


TAR22 route was decent. I love Bora Bora, NZ, Bali, Vietnam, Botswana, Berlin night leg, Scotland and Northern Ireland.


I think she means the TAR21 route, a 3 continent race is never a good recipe for the race. The 21 route China, Indonesia 1 & 2, Bangladesh 1 & 2 sucks so bad, it only gets better when they hit Europe but not better enough to counter act the negatives of Asia legs.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 22, 2015, 05:38:33 AM
TAR22's route was amazing, Vietnam is honestly one of my favorite legs ever and the only legs I didn't enjoy were Scotland, Bora Bora 2, and the Finale.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Gingerbeasts on April 22, 2015, 05:50:23 AM
How is the route of TAR22 bad?
It had New Zealand, Bali, Botswana, and the race's first visits to Northern Ireland and Bora Bora! Very exotic and varied imo (except Switzerland)


TAR22 route was decent. I love Bora Bora, NZ, Bali, Vietnam, Botswana, Berlin night leg, Scotland and Northern Ireland.


I think she means the TAR21 route, a 3 continent race is never a good recipe for the race. The 21 route China, Indonesia 1 & 2, Bangladesh 1 & 2 sucks so bad, it only gets better when they hit Europe but not better enough to counter act the negatives of Asia legs.

Am I the only one who like the Bangladesh leg? I mean it's physically challenging leg tbh. I would like if they put U-Turn somewhere there (like 17) just for the great drama and not wasted on the bad Indonesian leg.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on April 22, 2015, 06:11:17 AM
How is the route of TAR22 bad?
It had New Zealand, Bali, Botswana, and the race's first visits to Northern Ireland and Bora Bora! Very exotic and varied imo (except Switzerland)


TAR22 route was decent. I love Bora Bora, NZ, Bali, Vietnam, Botswana, Berlin night leg, Scotland and Northern Ireland.


I think she means the TAR21 route, a 3 continent race is never a good recipe for the race. The 21 route China, Indonesia 1 & 2, Bangladesh 1 & 2 sucks so bad, it only gets better when they hit Europe but not better enough to counter act the negatives of Asia legs.

Am I the only one who like the Bangladesh leg? I mean it's physically challenging leg tbh. I would like if they put U-Turn somewhere there (like 17) just for the great drama and not wasted on the bad Indonesian leg.


Tbh the TAR21 route was sucks. The first half (Asia legs) are lack of scene diverse where it generally all shown as poor Metro leg which is very depressing to watch on TV for many consecutive legs. (Indonesia 1 & 2 was shown as poor Metro leg and yet the next Bangladesh 1 & 2 was shown as poor Metro leg as well). It only get well on second half once they hit Europe where there was at least a significant scene diverse on every legs.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on April 22, 2015, 06:49:47 AM
TAR22 route was amazing and is imo a top 5 TAR route
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on April 22, 2015, 10:19:34 AM
That finale was nagl though :(

Finale discussions yay!
- Good final legs: 12, 14, and 25 for sure (though 25 could've used a better initial RB). I'll be alone in saying 13 as well (so many nonstandard clues and Field of 100 Clueboxes will probably be my favorite visual from this show).
- I'm torn on 21 because it certainly was dramatic and the Houdini and pizza tasks were both good buuuut Hello/Goodbye, despite it being amazing in theory devolved into a four hour guessing game - at what point do I go from "Hello/Goodbye was great, they should've been paying attention" to "Hello/Goodbye was too difficult and made the first part of the leg meaningless."
- Good season / crappy final: 17, 18, 22
- Pretty good final despite not having a mental task of some sort: 15 (yes, the chip counter is a mark against it but I like how there was an ~extreme~ final RB that still had a chance for position change, amongst everything else)
- Good in theory / lame in practice: 16, 19, 20, 23 (in the case for 23 it had good imagery but I think every task was easier than what the show suggested)
- 24: 24

For the pre-AS seasons, I - SHOCKINGLY - found FE's finale to be the best? Finale TBCs are fun and good, especially since unlike 25 they didn't just have an impromptu Pit Stop in Ninoy Aquino International Airport and instead forced teams to search a 55,000 seat stadium for what amounted to a 10 minute advantage  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 22, 2015, 08:50:20 PM
How is the route of TAR22 bad?
It had New Zealand, Bali, Botswana, and the race's first visits to Northern Ireland and Bora Bora! Very exotic and varied imo (except Switzerland)
:groan: Sorry, I meant the finale Leg of TAR22.... :-[
I didn't mean the entire route of the season. I did like the locales of the season, but the tasks could have been better.

After looking back at my grammar, I see where you could pick that out. All I can say is oops.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on April 23, 2015, 02:29:40 AM
Speaking of TAR8, I decided to pop in the Panama and Costa Rica Legs and boy were they fun.  Reminds me of how great TAR8's cast is, especially compared to most of the post-TAR12 seasons. 
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on April 23, 2015, 04:57:02 AM
Speaking of TAR8, I decided to pop in the Panama and Costa Rica Legs and boy were they fun.  Reminds me of how great TAR8's cast is, especially compared to most of the post-TAR12 seasons.


I love the TAR 8 cast and I don't found TAR 8 was the worst pre-AS season despite the route and the task was sucks. Compare to the very next season TAR 9 which was my worst pre-AS season despite the great route and acceptable task because I passionately dislike TAR 9 cast, boot order and the predictability so much.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 23, 2015, 05:01:34 AM
Speaking of TAR8, I decided to pop in the Panama and Costa Rica Legs and boy were they fun.  Reminds me of how great TAR8's cast is, especially compared to most of the post-TAR12 seasons.


I love the TAR 8 cast and I don't found TAR 8 was the worst pre-AS season despite the route and the task was sucks. Compare to the very next season TAR 9 which was my worst pre-AS season despite the great route and acceptable task because I passionately dislike TAR 9 cast, boot order and the predictability so much.

TAR8 is actually in my Top 5 seasons TBH.

Ignore the fact that it was almost entirely in the USA, it was a fun season with great teams, some good tasks, and it delivered!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on April 23, 2015, 10:49:42 AM
TAR8 being all in the United States is not actually a bad thing, because normal seasons of TAR hardly ever look at the culture of America anyway.

The important thing is that they only did it Once. Otherwise, I think it would be worthy of complaint.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 25, 2015, 10:55:00 AM
Despite the 8 leg wins, Rachel & Dave were far from perfect as a team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRY8-2Xs48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRY8-2Xs48)
I can't believe I haven't seen this deleted scene until now. They definitely would have shown things like this if they didn't win.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on April 25, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
Despite the 8 leg wins, Rachel & Dave were far from perfect as a team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRY8-2Xs48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRY8-2Xs48)
I can't believe I haven't seen this deleted scene until now. They definitely would have shown things like this if they didn't win.

Dave & Rachel are one of my most hated teams, but it really annoys me when they edit the winners to make them seem nicer then they actually are.  I know it's so viewers won't be as angry, but it really takes away from the "Reality" and "Realness" of the show, when they're perceiving teams totally different from what they actually are!  :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on April 25, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
Despite the 8 leg wins, Rachel & Dave were far from perfect as a team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRY8-2Xs48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaRY8-2Xs48)
I can't believe I haven't seen this deleted scene until now. They definitely would have shown things like this if they didn't win.

Dave & Rachel are one of my most hated teams, but it really annoys me when they edit the winners to make them seem nicer then they actually are.  I know it's so viewers won't be as angry, but it really takes away from the "Reality" and "Realness" of the show, when they're perceiving teams totally different from what they actually are!  :groan:
MOF, I think TAR20 had one of the least interesting, drama-filled cast ever with lots of deleted "extras". I still remember Kerri & Stacy's zero-personality edit, but were a riotous duo in the bonus clips.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on April 25, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
TAR's best routes in my opinion are:

Season 3  (Scotland, Portugal, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Vietnam)
Season 5  (Argentina, Egypt, Tanzania, UAE, New Zealand)
Season 6  (Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Senegal, Hungary, Corsica, Sri Lanka and Xian)
Season 12 (The Netherlands, Lithuania and Croatia)
Season 22 (Bora Bora, New Zealand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Botswana, Switzerland, Germany and the UK)

Honourable mentions for:

Seasons 15 and 18
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Air on April 26, 2015, 12:53:14 AM
^replace tar12 with tar10 and that's perfect

also I liked tar17
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 08, 2015, 08:40:07 AM
I recently rewatched TAR11 and holy hell, I loved every single episode in it.

Even though leg design wasn't the best (I'm not a big fan of the premiere being Fly-HoO-Detour-On Foot Pit Stop or the Poland 1 RB being unaired), the teams and drama really sold it and Eric/Danielle aren't as horrible on rewatch :lol:

Definitely hope the third returnee season delivers! (The gas leak season doesn't count.)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on June 08, 2015, 11:00:41 AM
I recently rewatched TAR11 and holy hell, I loved every single episode in it.

Even though leg design wasn't the best (I'm not a big fan of the premiere being Fly-HoO-Detour-On Foot Pit Stop or the Poland 1 RB being unaired), the teams and drama really sold it and Eric/Danielle aren't as horrible on rewatch :lol:

Definitely hope the third returnee season delivers! (The gas leak season doesn't count.)

The RB was un-aired because the flight drama from before took up to much time and tbh I think it was linear anyway
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARloveit on June 08, 2015, 11:12:21 AM
I recently rewatched TAR11 and holy hell, I loved every single episode in it.

Even though leg design wasn't the best (I'm not a big fan of the premiere being Fly-HoO-Detour-On Foot Pit Stop or the Poland 1 RB being unaired), the teams and drama really sold it and Eric/Danielle aren't as horrible on rewatch :lol:

Definitely hope the third returnee season delivers! (The gas leak season doesn't count.)
TAR11 is definitely in my top 10 seasons just because of the teams. Eric & Danielle isn't as bad as Whiner/Kid and a few other bad winners, tbh they're just like a normal dating couple that we get nowadays.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 08, 2015, 07:58:32 PM
I recently rewatched TAR11 and holy hell, I loved every single episode in it.

Even though leg design wasn't the best (I'm not a big fan of the premiere being Fly-HoO-Detour-On Foot Pit Stop or the Poland 1 RB being unaired), the teams and drama really sold it and Eric/Danielle aren't as horrible on rewatch :lol:

Definitely hope the third returnee season delivers! (The gas leak season doesn't count.)
TAR11 is definitely in my top 10 seasons just because of the teams. Eric & Danielle isn't as bad as Whiner/Kid and a few other bad winners, tbh they're just like a normal dating couple that we get nowadays.
TAR11 is one of the very few seasons where I at least enjoyed every team (even Kevin & Drew )-**) and would be okay-to-enthusiastic if any of the teams won. With the route, all the drama, and Charla & Mirna, I actually bought into the season's DVD.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Palperro on June 08, 2015, 10:48:41 PM
I recently rewatched TAR11 and holy hell, I loved every single episode in it.

Even though leg design wasn't the best (I'm not a big fan of the premiere being Fly-HoO-Detour-On Foot Pit Stop or the Poland 1 RB being unaired), the teams and drama really sold it and Eric/Danielle aren't as horrible on rewatch :lol:

Definitely hope the third returnee season delivers! (The gas leak season doesn't count.)

The RB was un-aired because the flight drama from before took up to much time and tbh I think it was linear anyway

The flight drama was so amazing. Dustin/Kandace had more than a 12 hour lead on the Guidos and Eric/Danielle at one point. :o
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: elthemagnifico on June 09, 2015, 09:53:35 AM
I recently rewatched TAR11 and holy hell, I loved every single episode in it.

Even though leg design wasn't the best (I'm not a big fan of the premiere being Fly-HoO-Detour-On Foot Pit Stop or the Poland 1 RB being unaired), the teams and drama really sold it and Eric/Danielle aren't as horrible on rewatch :lol:

Definitely hope the third returnee season delivers! (The gas leak season doesn't count.)

leg 4 was very amazing and dramaful... charla n mirna defeated rob n amber in the pitstop after even the task can't killed them ( also because the airport luck, maybe )

many airport drama n yield drama  ( who can forget eric/danielle whining & whining dustin/kandace & danny/oswald for yielded them... )
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on June 09, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
TAR11's drama and team really fantastic. (Airport Drama <333) But IMO, route and task were NOT that good. :P 4 consecutive South American leg at the start was pretty boring (Esp. First 2 legs except Charla & Mirna's meltdown in the middle of nowhere of the Desert :lol:) and then the Malaysia-Hong Kong-Macau and Guam-Hawaii combo is not good at all, I think it's lacked of diversity. The Mozambique-Tanzania-Poland was great because it provided drama and changed the scenery but the task were pretty bad. (All task in Tanzania SUCKS but maybe since because it's last minute and Poland 1 was super short leg! Even with the RB! Poland 2 is above average since I think that Intersection was super bad leg plan and killed the decent detour and RB)

But Charla & Mirna and BQ both made it to F3 is good enough reason for me to watch this over and over again. <33333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on June 09, 2015, 12:13:54 PM
The 2 Poland leg in TAR11 was really bad in leg design especially in Poland 2. I mean Poland 2 leg design was one of the worse leg design in TAR history with FF and Intersection at the same time, the ridiculous bus sign up HoO with the departure of bus 1 and bus 2 are 4 hours apart, plus Poland 1 was a NEL with a 30 minute MFE penalty that Guido are automatic eliminated in next leg, and BQs are screwed in the Intersection once again (this time they have to wait 4 hours due to the bus 2 was departed 4 hours later). But entertainment wise, it was still great because of the sausage Detour with Charla & Mirna :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on June 19, 2015, 05:25:20 AM
Speaking of TAR11, I need a favour from those who have the TAR11: All-Stars DVD.

In Leg 10, when the teams are at KLIA to depart to Hong Kong; there is a scene that shows a close-up of a Malaysia Airlines 777 (MH72) at the gate. This edit happens after Eric & Danielle's "plane" is shown departing for Ho Chi Minh City at 09:05am.

This is the screenshot of the scene I am talking about.

(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb429/747-412/TAR11%20MH72_zpsnaaahabl.jpg) (http://s1205.photobucket.com/user/747-412/media/TAR11%20MH72_zpsnaaahabl.jpg.html)
Can anyone tell me the letters encircled?

It is R something: R_
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on June 19, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
It's Rn
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: AmazingRace on June 20, 2015, 04:48:44 AM
It's Rn

Thank you very much. :) 9M-MRN
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 24, 2015, 09:45:46 AM
Taken from forums.previously.tv site where TAR 25 original route showing below (link (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/27885-tar-27-route-spoilers-no-elimination-info/#entry1267474)):

Quote
Aside: Doha and environs getting the axe for S25 sounds rather incongruent on several levels - when the Arabian peninsula hosted legs on near-consecutive seasons in the past, it did so from both directions, e.g. five eastbound teams in Oman during S9 versus seven westbound teams in Kuwait during S10, then eight/seven westbound teams in the United Arab Emirates during S15 versus six eastbound teams in Oman during S17. Given this supposed original itinerary of Denmark -> Italy -> Malta -> Qatar -> Bahrain (to overcome the intrinsic limits of a quasi-micronation as well as preserving the pan-archipelago route) -> Singapore and keeping the NEL sequence intact, it would amount to the same exact double-F6 round that Abu Dhabi and al-Ain already had just two seasons ago as opposed to the aforementioned precedents.

That was the reason why Qatar and Bahrain were both scrapped a couple of days before TAR 25 started filming, cited those countries were replaced and gave Morocco as their replacement leg within two legs into one country.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on June 24, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
That's pretty weird reasons to cancel legs? ??? Anyway, it leads to good result as Morocco legs ended up being actually great. (Especially since it's replacement).

So any chance of Qatar & Bahrain on maybe season 28? Hard to see it on 27 since MERs.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on June 24, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
That's pretty weird reasons to cancel legs? ??? Anyway, it leads to good result as Morocco legs ended up being actually great. (Especially since it's replacement).

So any chance of Qatar & Bahrain on maybe season 28? Hard to see it on 27 since MERs.


Maybe. But I think Qatar and Bahrain might get visited in separate seasons just to ensure TAR have new countries very season given the unvisited countries are getting less and less over the time.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on June 25, 2015, 01:22:08 AM
That's strange because it would have meant that there would be 2, 3 continent races in a row
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on June 27, 2015, 05:57:13 PM
That's strange because it would have meant that there would be 2, 3 continent races in a row
14/15?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on June 27, 2015, 08:47:53 PM
That's strange because it would have meant that there would be 2, 3 continent races in a row
14/15?

Isn't Hawaii considered as Oceania? ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on June 28, 2015, 02:54:52 AM
That's strange because it would have meant that there would be 2, 3 continent races in a row
14/15?

I know it already happened but Tar 15 had to be diverted because of Swine Flu
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on July 05, 2015, 03:07:04 PM
Finally peeled myself off the sofa after binging, and finishing TAR Canada 1 in one sitting.  :colors

And all I have to say is WOW! It's only my second time watching it, but it's up there with the best of the American seasons.  And even though they never actually left Canada, each Leg is so different in terms of the landscape / terrain, it might as well be different countries. 

The teams were fantastic.  The first time round I really didn't like Jet & Dave, but they really did make the Season.  I found myself in tears laughing at them most the time.  I think Holly & Brett were the only team I didn't really care for this time.  ???

Also, it was great too see that the Final 3 teams were stragglers at the back of the pack for the first half of the Season, and all the teams that dominated those Legs just fell and crumbled Mid-Race.  :hoot:
Though I'm still bitter over Hal & Joanne's Elimination!  :'(   (:;)  :iok
Definitely hyped for Season 3 now.  :trampb:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on July 05, 2015, 06:35:16 PM
Taken from forums.previously.tv site where TAR 25 original route showing below (link (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/27885-tar-27-route-spoilers-no-elimination-info/#entry1267474)):

Quote
Aside: Doha and environs getting the axe for S25 sounds rather incongruent on several levels - when the Arabian peninsula hosted legs on near-consecutive seasons in the past, it did so from both directions, e.g. five eastbound teams in Oman during S9 versus seven westbound teams in Kuwait during S10, then eight/seven westbound teams in the United Arab Emirates during S15 versus six eastbound teams in Oman during S17. Given this supposed original itinerary of Denmark -> Italy -> Malta -> Qatar -> Bahrain (to overcome the intrinsic limits of a quasi-micronation as well as preserving the pan-archipelago route) -> Singapore and keeping the NEL sequence intact, it would amount to the same exact double-F6 round that Abu Dhabi and al-Ain already had just two seasons ago as opposed to the aforementioned precedents.

That was the reason why Qatar and Bahrain were both scrapped a couple of days before TAR 25 started filming, cited those countries were replaced and gave Morocco as their replacement leg within two legs into one country.

Previously TV's spoilers are sadly no longer reliable for the most part, please do not quote them here.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on July 21, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
TAR22's route was amazing, Vietnam is honestly one of my favorite legs ever and the only legs I didn't enjoy were Scotland, Bora Bora 2, and the Finale.

From TAR22, the only legs I didn't like were the last two legs - Ireland and Washington, D.C. Boring in my opinion.

Leg 7 Botswana and Leg 10 Scotland were also average, the rest were awesome.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on July 22, 2015, 02:56:13 AM
TAR22's route was amazing, Vietnam is honestly one of my favorite legs ever and the only legs I didn't enjoy were Scotland, Bora Bora 2, and the Finale.

From TAR22, the only legs I didn't like were the last two legs - Ireland and Washington, D.C. Boring in my opinion.

Leg 7 Botswana and Leg 10 Scotland were also average, the rest were awesome.

Really? I think Botswana in Leg 6 is way more meh than Leg 7. :lol: At least Leg 7 had some navigation drama. Leg 6 had like, nothing interesting. :lol:

My fave leg from 22 is Leg 9, Berlin.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on July 22, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
I would rank TAR22's legs best to worst as this:

Leg 9 (Germany)
Leg 1 (French Polynesia)
Leg 8 (Switzerland)
Leg 2 (French Polynesia)
Leg 5 (Vietnam)
Leg 3 (New Zealand)
Leg 4 (Indonesia)
Leg 6 (Botswana)
Leg 10 (Scotland)
Leg 7 (Botswana)
Leg 12 (Washington, D.C)
Leg 11 (Ireland)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on July 23, 2015, 04:35:57 AM
Billy & Clarissa are now 22 & 19  :ascared
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on July 27, 2015, 05:06:38 PM
I personally believe the strongest five seasons to date (in order) were:

1. Season 3 -   Best cast to date with all the teams being somewhat lovable, great locations (all except Morocco) and terrific suspense. Never boring, the near perfect season
2. Season 6 -   Highly underrated, and used to be the favourite for me. This season, despite having bad winners was perfect in every aspect. All locations were excellent, great suspense. Only downside were the early eliminations of both female teams and a predictable boot order
3. Season 5 -   The season considered to be the all-around best. It would have been my best, if only they had visited more Europe. Everything else was amazing, great final 3, loved Charla, terrific. I found myself losing interest once they reached the Philippines, but it picked up on the final leg
4. Season 18: Unfinished Business  -  The best of the new era. Great all-star teams despite having so many return from TAR 14, nice locations, wonderful suspense and an all around high fun factor
5. Season 22  -  It was a tough call, but this has to be #5. The locations this season were almost perfect, visiting less Asia, but I enjoyed Asia this time more than any other edition. It did lose some ground by Ireland, but overall, it was excellent. Great cast of teams, let down a weak finale.

Honorable mentions - Seasons 7 and 21
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 25, 2015, 03:42:44 PM
We haven't seen the infamous Lombok leg in American screen, and we know TAR USA sometimes recycles tasks from another version so it could be a possibility.

What series is the infamous Lombok leg from?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Theo on October 25, 2015, 06:19:26 PM
We haven't seen the infamous Lombok leg in American screen, and we know TAR USA sometimes recycles tasks from another version so it could be a possibility.

What series is the infamous Lombok leg from?

TAR Asia 4 and TAR Aus 1
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: theamazingracer21 on October 28, 2015, 07:42:05 AM
But a returnee season no more then 2 years after the season that sharnt be mentioned.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on October 28, 2015, 08:58:53 AM
But a returnee season no more then 2 years after the season that sharnt be mentioned.

You never know, we waited 11 seasons for All Stars, 6 seasons for UB, 5 seasons for [REDACTED].

It could be happening sooner than expected lol, we've already passed 3 seasons since [REDACTED]!

I know what [REDACTED] means ... that worst season, worse than Family Edition. Forget that season. Brenchel and Country Singers are only stars of that season.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on October 28, 2015, 09:27:26 AM
But a returnee season no more then 2 years after the season that sharnt be mentioned.

You never know, we waited 11 seasons for All Stars, 6 seasons for UB, 5 seasons for [REDACTED].

It could be happening sooner than expected lol, we've already passed 3 seasons since [REDACTED]!

I know what [REDACTED] means ... that worst season, worse than Family Edition. Forget that season. Brenchel and Country Singers are only stars of that season.

TAR8 is actually amazing in hindsight? Really fun season with an amazing cast!

Yes, yet I also liked the Gaghans.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on October 28, 2015, 04:48:01 PM

TAR8 is actually amazing in hindsight? Really fun season with an amazing cast!

YES IT IS!!! :yess:  :hearts:
One of the best, most balanced casts who were competitive and hilarious and full of drama.  And all the whining over the US-only route seems kinda petty now when TARs in China, Canada, Vietnam, the Philippines and Latin America all staged okay to great seasons in their own backyards.  :cheer:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: claude_24hrs on December 05, 2015, 10:17:52 PM
Besides with the current 27th season not involving self-driving, did any older TAR seasons without any car sponsors like Ford?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 06, 2015, 07:46:06 AM
Besides with the current 27th season not involving self-driving, did any older TAR seasons without any car sponsors like Ford?
I think TAR3 was the last season; it had self-driving, but I don't know if there were car sponsors, just electronics and international travel (Kodak in Singapore, T-Mobile call in Switzerland, and 1st place cruise rewards). :ascared I remember season 4 - 17 was Mercedes-Benz's time to shine though it was mostly subtle.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: toanglobal on December 17, 2015, 02:51:10 AM
I rewatched S22 E9 and discovered Bates & Anthony travelled by taxi rather than self-drove when they switched their detour but wasn't got penalty by Phil
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: HavaDrPepper on December 17, 2015, 02:04:29 PM

TAR8 is actually amazing in hindsight? Really fun season with an amazing cast!

YES IT IS!!! :yess:  :hearts:
One of the best, most balanced casts who were competitive and hilarious and full of drama.  And all the whining over the US-only route seems kinda petty now when TARs in China, Canada, Vietnam, the Philippines and Latin America all staged okay to great seasons in their own backyards.  :cheer:

I finished watching TAR 8 the other day.  I liked it the first time around and even more the 2nd time!  I loved seeing places in the USA highlighted. Makes me want to visit them.

I was curious what the Linz family was up to these days and googled Megan Linz.  Found this article posted recently on the 10th anniversary of the TAR8 finale

http://wvxu.org/post/where-are-they-now-linz-kids-who-won-1-million-amazing-race#stream/0 (http://wvxu.org/post/where-are-they-now-linz-kids-who-won-1-million-amazing-race#stream/0)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on December 18, 2015, 01:04:31 AM
TAR 3, 18 and 26 are surely tied for the best ones in my list.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Declive on December 18, 2015, 01:05:02 AM
21 was good a lot too
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on December 20, 2015, 01:27:15 PM
Besides with the current 27th season not involving self-driving, did any older TAR seasons without any car sponsors like Ford?
I think TAR3 was the last season; it had self-driving, but I don't know if there were car sponsors, just electronics and international travel (Kodak in Singapore, T-Mobile call in Switzerland, and 1st place cruise rewards). :ascared I remember season 4 - 17 was Mercedes-Benz's time to shine though it was mostly subtle.

But I remember they used Mercedes on Germany/Austria and Switzerland leg on TAR3.

Anyways I found the Switzerland leg quality was getting declined over as the season progress. It was amazing on TAR3, and TAR22/TAR24 Swiss leg was ugh induced.

Impromptu Swiss leg ranking
TAR3 Swiss 1 > TAR3 Swiss 2 > TAR14 Swiss > TAR18 Swiss 1 > TAR18 Swiss 2 > TAR22 Swiss > TAR24 Swiss
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on December 22, 2015, 03:05:50 PM
Re-watching S11, episode 1 is so terrible. What is the leg design, The detour did not matter at all so the only thing that changed placements were the drive to Cotopaxi. Most teams weren't even shown completing the detour! They Flew to Quito went to a plaza, Went to a restaurant and slept overnight. They drove to Cotopaxi National Park and performed a very linear detour before running to a Pitstop! It was pretty crap  :cmaslol

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on December 23, 2015, 10:46:06 AM
11 is a really bad season in term of leg design, task and route. The only thing that save that season is the cast (Maybe except Eric & Danielle but they aren't that bad during my rewatch when I somehow consolidate with the fact that they're winning over BQ and Charla & Mirna) and all those drama. <3 Such entertaining. (Non-stop airport drama starting from Mozambique to Hong Kong <3 BQ VS Charla & Mirna <3 BQ VS Eric & Danielle <3 Charla & Mirna VS Eric & Danielle <3 Notorious Yield's selling at Macau Tower <333)

But if somehow, let say, they use this route for like season 9 or 10. I think it's gonna be a total disaster.
- Spending 4.2 LEGS in South America? Seriously? The route suffer a lot from this start. To make it worse, none of the SA's leg really pass the average. The first leg like BritishTARFan said, it's all about testing who can read map in Ecuador. Umm, at least add some RB or make the detour a bit more complicated? Then the second leg come and it get even more worse with having team doing a really difficult RB and then flying to another city? WTF? So the RB is pointless then! And then we come with another super easy Detour before Pit Stop. This leg would become absolutely crap had Charla & Mirna not melting down at the Taxi driver in the middle of the desert. <33 Leg 3 was OK since it's really physically challenging and the scenery was cool. Then Leg 4 suffer with the same thing as Leg 2, they make team perform a relatively hard Detour before bunching them at the Airport again. :res: And then it's all coming down to a luck task before Pit Stop, WHATTTT. (But at least it create one of the most amazing moment in TAR history so I'll happily overlook it <3)

- Then we have 2 African leg, one of them is in new African nation that hadn't been visit too. Sound cool. However, it all felt flat since the task was really bad. Mozambique's leg is OK at least I guess since the Detour is a bit tricky (The one that sounds impossible to finish become the one that unexpectedly faster) and the RB is a bit funny to watch. But the Tanzania's leg scream one of the worst leg in term of designing ever. First, why in high hell did WRP not realizing about the flight problem? Maputo is not really a hub for airport but they decide to just let teams do the flight anyway. How about flight in advance for team in case that they cannot find the faster fight they still have this backup flight to get out of the country. It's sad and miserable to see Teri & Ian and Joe & Bill struggle for like 48 hours++ just to try to get to Tanzania. And this flight fiasco continue in Tanzania when they cannot find the flight to Poland AGAIN. This lead WRP to scrap a lot of tasks in both Tanzania and Poland leg which is kind of sad. :res: The Zanzibar's leg really could have been better than finishing Kindergarten's puzzle in a freaking hotel or transport LOGS to some random beach. :res:

- Then we have Poland legs, a double leg, which will 100% fall flat had Charla & Mirna not save it again. And even with Charla & Mirna in it, I still can't make myself to enjoy this legs. It's the only 2 European legs this season and it sucks. I don't know if it's because of the flight fiasco so they had to do a last minute change of task to make it more suit with the filming table or something. But the task is so bad. What's the point of X-Raying doll in Poland. That task was so weird and it's not even entertaining. Then, we have a mini unair RB which include rowing boat for 5 minutes. (LOL thank god they unair it) Then the second half is even more worse with the Intersection, yeah, Intersection. Of all leg they can place this twist they decide to place it on the leg that 1. Had 3 teams that were bunching to be 3 hours apart of each group. 2. And one of them in the last group is Marked for Elimination. :res: And yeah, add a FF too because why not, let's just make the first pair win even more easier! The FF is easy and lame. The Detour is OK. (I still don't get the love for this task, or this Poland leg in general) The RB included dressing like a Knight and walk with horse for like 5 minutes, yeah and then Pit Stop. Such a waste opportunity. :res:

- LOL. And then Asian Part. I absolutely DISGUST the Malaysia-HK-Macau A LOT. (Even more then the China-Indonesia-Bangladesh from 21 OR India-Thailand-China from 14) All 3 legs feel almost the same and I can barely notice the different. The Malaysian leg is OK. I like the Detour but the RB is really lame and can be done almost everywhere in THE WORLD. Then we come HK with the FF involved sitting in the car for 5 minutes :res:. The RB involved kicking the door in an ghetto apartment. :res: And the Detour involved climbing the building. Ummm, OK! I get that HK is best at stuntman show but cram 999 stuntman tasks into one leg is so overdone. (Not to mention that all of it was so ridiculous easy too) Macau and Guam are both big fat MEH to me overall. (I don't get the point of Guam's leg, can't they just do task like that at almost every military base in USA? I mean, you go to freaking Guam! How about showcasing scenic beach? Marine task? This is such a big waste chance!)

- I'm not even bother to talk about the Finale. I hate all the finale before 12 where all teams perform like 4/5 of the Finale in one city before flying to another city just to run to the Finish Line. (And maybe eat Pizza lol) I'm actually really OK the the Final, umm, Memory Challenge. Had they not been the error with the box, it would have been better.

OMG such a long ranting, I mean. I didn't hate 11 with a passion but I think WRP also realized a lot of their mistake from this season which make the 11 -> 12 is such a big gap of change in the history of TAR. It still a really entertaining season to watch. (I still watch 11.06 for fun each time I need to relax, such classic airport drama. <33)

Typing all this make me realized that I miss the old season so much. It's truly what make I fall in love with this show. *sobbing* :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on December 23, 2015, 10:53:35 AM
I agree, but TAR11 was still an amazing season.

It just goes to show that TAR, even in its heyday, was still amazing despite sub-par legs.

Now it's not that case anymore =/
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 23, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
Just rewatched TAR 26 this morning...

IDK who made my morning, the TAR itself or Hayley <333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Bookworm on December 23, 2015, 06:01:53 PM
Just rewatched TAR 26 this morning...

IDK who made my morning, the TAR itself or Hayley <333
Definitely Hayley  :hearts:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on December 23, 2015, 09:16:46 PM
Just rewatched TAR 26 this morning...

IDK who made my morning, the TAR itself or Hayley <333
Definitely Hayley  :hearts:

Def Hayley, Queen of that season. <3333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on December 29, 2015, 05:05:45 AM
I've just watched the penultimate leg of TAR19 this afternoon. (Because I was bored and had nothing to do so I randomly click on the episode of TAR in my folder for the sake of it :lol:) And... along with the satisfied elimination, it's really great leg design?

- Tintin ARI, a bit pointless but OK. At least we gotta see this side of the Detour that no teams performed it last leg.
- Travel by Panama Boat in the middle of the night and Tattoo ARI. (Cryptic Clue #1) <3
- Height RB, not really relevance with Panama. But OK.
- Then we have rooster clue. (Cryptic Clue #2) (Bonus point for Sandy making rooster voice <3)
- The Detour is really good! Both not only relevance but also challenging. Between Detail Oriented Shoe Making VS Navigating + Carrying Seafood around the market. <333
- Then the Panama Viejo Dance. <33333333 Best Cryptic Clue EVER. (Cryptic Clue #3) Not only it tricked 3 out of 4 teams, but I really like the concept that anything can be viewed as a Pit Stop. <3

So hell yeah, that was really amazing. It's basically neck-and-neck challenge (Except the Tile-rope RB which I think if there was 2 stations, it would be better.) with so many cryptic clues after another. Then add some chaotic traffic of Panama and the Taxi Alliance. <3 Thank god Jeremy & Sandy's boat got stuck in the sand dune and they got 2nd at the village or else I think Andy & Tommy will take their taxi and might change the outcome of this leg. :res:

I think I enjoyed 19 a lot more during rewatch. So hopefully I will rewatch the entire season soon. Also, Jeremy & Sandy really SHINE a lot upon rewatching. <33 (I think they are a bit bland during first watch.)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on December 29, 2015, 05:19:54 AM
Jeremy/Sandy were just plain invisible for almost the entire race and only started being shown towards the end, so yeah... :/ I think they're quite similar to Kelsey/Joey, only the latter won and thus got lots of screentime.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on January 10, 2016, 07:17:27 PM
Thought I'd post my updated Rankings (Best to Worst) with Season 27 included.. This is purely my personal opinion.

BEST:

1. Season 3
2. Season 6
3. Season 5
4. Season 18: Unfinished Business

TERRIFIC:

5. Season 22
6. Season 7
7. Season 21
8. Season 12

GREAT:

9. Season 25
10. Season 20
11. Season 26

GOOD:
 
12. Season 17
13. Season 4
14. Season 19
15. Season 1
16. Season 23
17. Season 2

DECENT

18. Season 14
19. Season 8: Family Edition

DISAPPOINTING

20. Season 15
21. Season 11: All-Stars
22. Season 9

BAD

23. Season 10
24. Season 13

BOTTOM OF THE BARREL

25. Season 27
26. Season 24: All-Stars
27. Season 16
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on March 22, 2016, 03:45:19 AM
Rewatched China Rush 1 very recently on YT and it still holds up really well <3

It's also worth noting that it could very easily work as a TAR US season if they all had 12 legs in China (and all the teams being Americans with other cultures sprinkled in with no Chinese people :lol: <3) so I'm definitely gonna recommend it to anyone and everyone watching this! ;D

Too bad about China Rush 2 vanishing almost entirely though, one of my favourite International seasons ever :torche
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 26, 2016, 08:20:41 AM
It's not their fault they got more famous on the other Reality Show? :lol:

Natalie was also on the Survivor one.

And Brendon & Rachel are expecting to have their child pretty soon so they definitely did not get called.
I honestly had no clue Jackie was on BB until now so... :lol: She's still part of (TeamJJ) to me.

And 1/2 of Twinnies on the Survivor edition? Remind me how?when?why?... I haven't watched Survivor in ages and I when I used my friend Google, it said that she won? :ascared

Thank goodness for the last paragraph, and disregarding their TV personalities, I wish them good fortune on their newborn.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on March 26, 2016, 08:25:20 AM
It's not their fault they got more famous on the other Reality Show? :lol:

Natalie was also on the Survivor one.

And Brendon & Rachel are expecting to have their child pretty soon so they definitely did not get called.
I honestly had no clue Jackie was on BB until now so... :lol: She's still part of (TeamJJ) to me.

And 1/2 of Twinnies on the Survivor edition? Remind me how?when?why?... I haven't watched Survivor in ages and I when I used my friend Google, it said that she won? :ascared

Thank goodness for the last paragraph, and disregarding their TV personalities, I wish them good fortune on their newborn.

They were both on and it was an amazing season and Natalie played one of the best ever games of the show and ended up being a favourite of many, many Survivor fans and even people who hated them on TAR lol.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: HavaDrPepper on March 26, 2016, 10:24:09 AM
They were both on and it was an amazing season and Natalie played one of the best ever games of the show and ended up being a favourite of many, many Survivor fans and even people who hated them on TAR lol.
I am one of those fans that disliked them on TAR.  Still did when I rewatched the seasons they were on.  But I did end up liking Natalie on Survivor.  Probably because of Nadiya being the first one voted out!  She is an entirely different person when not around Nadiya.  All IMHO.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on March 26, 2016, 12:25:53 PM
It was really nice seeing all the casuals' hate towards the twinnies when they were announced as contestants turn to love for Natalie as the season progressed and she won :luvya:
For those who are interested and do not know, the season had the Blood vs. Water theme, where the players are cast in pairs of relatives/lovers (e.g. mom/daughter, brothers, husband/wife).

But back to the topic :grins:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 27, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
It was really nice seeing all the casuals' hate towards the twinnies when they were announced as contestants turn to love for Natalie as the season progressed and she won :luvya:
For those who are interested and do not know, the season had the Blood vs. Water theme, where the players are cast in pairs of relatives/lovers (e.g. mom/daughter, brothers, husband/wife).

But back to the topic :grins:
So basically Survivor in TAR-style cast. ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on March 27, 2016, 03:12:58 PM
Yeah, kind of.

Season 27 was the original Blood vs. Water season and had 10 returning players, each of them coming back with a relative/lover. The season turned out so good that they did Blood vs. Water again in season 29, where all the pairs were made up of new players.

It DOES sound similar to TAR, or like you said, a TAR-style cast, but the pairs didn't really have the opportunity to work together for the majority of the game and in S27 most of the pairs were swiftly decimated and the final 7 had none of them.

Nadiya was voted out first in the season twinnies competed (29), so they were on the show together for a very short time. The casuals were really happy to see her gone first and wanted Natalie to go next. :lol: But as the season progressed and Natalie emerged both as a cunning strategist and a likable character, even the casuals fell in love with her :P
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on March 27, 2016, 06:43:34 PM
Yeah, kind of.

Season 27 was the original Blood vs. Water season and had 10 returning players, each of them coming back with a relative/lover. The season turned out so good that they did Blood vs. Water again in season 29, where all the pairs were made up of new players.

It DOES sound similar to TAR, or like you said, a TAR-style cast, but the pairs didn't really have the opportunity to work together for the majority of the game and in S27 most of the pairs were swiftly decimated and the final 7 had none of them.

Nadiya was voted out first in the season twinnies competed (29), so they were on the show together for a very short time. The casuals were really happy to see her gone first and wanted Natalie to go next. :lol: But as the season progressed and Natalie emerged both as a cunning strategist and a likable character, even the casuals fell in love with her :P
Got it. I'm just so shocked Natalie won after their loud encouragement and arguing on both Race seasons. The others contestants must have been blindly playing if they couldn't figure out a TAR competitor + even more shenanigans = potential winner. :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 03, 2016, 03:44:42 AM
Searched YouTube for no real reason and I found this:

https://www.youtube.com/v/DU4w8IPP66Q

THIS VIDEO IS HILARIOUS OMG :lol: <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on April 03, 2016, 11:47:39 AM
OMG <333333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 08, 2016, 09:39:30 PM
I don't know why but the other week I rewatched the first 1/3 of TAR 27's premiere episode (yikes that was bad) and the editing...omg.

Specifically at the starting line task: WTH was with showing "Currently in ___" NOT in chronological order? i.e "Currently in 7th" "to "Currently in 10th" to "Currently in 3rd"

I also remember in Season 25 when Dennis & Isabelle were last after the punting task and it said "Currently in 10th" :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 08, 2016, 09:41:59 PM
I don't know why but the other week I rewatched the first 1/3 of TAR 27's premiere episode (yikes that was bad) and the editing...omg.

Specifically at the starting line task: WTH was with showing "Currently in ___" NOT in chronological order? i.e "Currently in 7th" "to "Currently in 10th" to "Currently in 3rd"

I also remember in Season 25 when Dennis & Isabelle were last after the punting task and it said "Currently in 10th" :groan:

That's why I did a re-edit :lol:

TAR27 is utterly crap in terms of editing, probably the worst-edited TAR season ever!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 08, 2016, 09:46:46 PM
I don't know why but the other week I rewatched the first 1/3 of TAR 27's premiere episode (yikes that was bad) and the editing...omg.

Specifically at the starting line task: WTH was with showing "Currently in ___" NOT in chronological order? i.e "Currently in 7th" "to "Currently in 10th" to "Currently in 3rd"

I also remember in Season 25 when Dennis & Isabelle were last after the punting task and it said "Currently in 10th" :groan:

That's why I did a re-edit :lol:

TAR27 is utterly crap in terms of editing, probably the worst-edited TAR season ever!
Ha, smart. I mean, if it were edited well, it's probably still bad. Because of you know who :groan:

(I can't believe I wasted my 1000th post on that I'm disgusted)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 24, 2016, 09:57:55 AM
I feel like TAR stepped up their game with leg designs in Season 25 and didn't maintain that :/

Leg 4: Denmark
- Route Info: Drive using less than 0.10 U.S. gallons of gas OR answer a geography question.
- Detour:
--Parking Space
--Wedding Cake
- Roadblock: Memorize orders/correctly recite them.

Leg 5: Morocco
- Route Info: Set up a food cart.
- Speed Bump: Hang up ten rugs.
- Roadblock: Collect three goat skins and deliver them.
- Detour:
-- Twirl Time
-- Tea Time

Leg 8: Malta
- Route Info: Carry a bottle of liquor and two glasses to the knights.
Here, they put an HoO ugh
- Roadblock: Rappel and swim in the Blue Grotto. This one was lame like every other similar RB.
- Speed Bump: Paint the Maltese cross onto two shields.
- Detour:
-- Flag
-- Shine
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on April 24, 2016, 10:19:45 AM
Add to the Malta detour that they had to choose without any other info than each option's name.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: elthemagnifico on April 24, 2016, 10:49:35 AM
i think the problem of TAR recently because of the editing and the cast who participated in

i mean some of TAR 1-12 had a bad or worse leg design ( TAR 11 was most relevant) but still they served great entertaining episode bcause they offered vibes that  produced by great hand of editors who edited it... look for TAR 8, they had only traveled inside North America, but still entertaining than post as1( as well as post UB) because editing and the casts that followed in...

TAR 27 had promising route and cast but editing was too rushed and messy (yet let design played the part)... so we felt there was lack of  vibes that we miss in golden era...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 24, 2016, 04:57:53 PM
You make a very good point, rafael02. I was just thinking about how TAR 27's cast wasn't that bad? The route was fine but the leg design was horrible... Justin & Diana only had such huge leads because of the "waiting-in-line" type of tasks. That's honestly the only reason I'd want them to return :lol: to see if they're THAT strong.

Also, the editing, yes. Huge problem. It's so strange how the editing in early TAR seasons was slower-paced, yet they fit EVERYTHING essential to the Race in the 42 minutes.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 24, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
Justin & Diana only had such huge leads because of the "waiting-in-line" type of tasks. That's honestly the only reason I'd want them to return :lol: to see if they're THAT strong.

I hope Justin & Diana return and get eliminated on the very first leg or not return at all. His arrogance even outside the show is so disgusting, did you know his Twitter background image is of ALL his first places? :res:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 24, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
Justin & Diana only had such huge leads because of the "waiting-in-line" type of tasks. That's honestly the only reason I'd want them to return :lol: to see if they're THAT strong.

I hope Justin & Diana return and get eliminated on the very first leg or not return at all. His arrogance even outside the show is so disgusting, did you know his Twitter background image is of ALL his first places? :res:
I gave it a look and it's actually of all 12 of their finishes :S

I've grown to love Diana (on their Race podcast... I only watch it for Krista/James Earl/special guest I promise :lol: ) post-Race, still hate Justin.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: elthemagnifico on April 25, 2016, 08:10:56 AM
You make a very good point, rafael02. I was just thinking about how TAR 27's cast wasn't that bad? The route was fine but the leg design was horrible... Justin & Diana only had such huge leads because of the "waiting-in-line" type of tasks. That's honestly the only reason I'd want them to return :lol: to see if they're THAT strong.

Also, the editing, yes. Huge problem. It's so strange how the editing in early TAR seasons was slower-paced, yet they fit EVERYTHING essential to the Race in the 42 minutes.

that's why we had TAR 27 re-edit :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 25, 2016, 09:59:29 AM
I also realised something about TAR27... a lot of the leg designs DEFINITELY felt like early-level TAR, but since we're in a whole new era it just didn't make sense? Like the HoO after the Roadblock in Africa was dumb, yes, but it definitely felt like something we would see in an early season.

TAR27 actually does have a decent cast in hindsight, but it sucks that Justin/Texas sucked up all the airtime for four entire episodes leading to very underdeveloped 7th-10th placers.

Like... Logan/Chris, Tiffany/Krista, Denise/James-Earl are DEFINITELY all-star material with Tanner & Josh being UB material. Justin fits in UB but he won 7 legs so no thanks :lol:

Still... TAR27 blew so much.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 25, 2016, 05:14:09 PM
Krista: The person who comes up with the title quotes is probably the same person who made the Top 25 Amazing Race Teams list.

Diana: And the person who forgot the Speed Bump sign! Someone's getting fired!

:funny:

Speaking of Speed Bumps... WHY has the sign disappeared after Season 26? It seems like they LOST the sign in 27 and were too lazy to make the ugly replacement ones we see in 28.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: elthemagnifico on April 25, 2016, 05:24:23 PM
^^ when did they say that tbh it's hillarious :lol: ...

hmm I think WRP kinda had problems while making TAR 27 so they were kinda too rushed to finish it before the deadline so they forgot the signs of speedbump and replaced it with RB twist, maybe?

for 28 idk, budget cuts maybe?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ianthebalance on April 26, 2016, 02:35:46 PM
I wish we could list all the editing styles and choices that classic TAR did that were good that current TAR doesn't do, and then make some grand post or email to the editors
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on May 14, 2016, 08:22:44 AM
TAR 24 could've been so much better.

Actual cast:

Quote
Flight Time & Big Easy, Season 18
Jet & Cord, Season 18
Margie & Luke, Season 18
Brendon & Rachel, Season 20
Bopper & Mark, Season 20 / Mallory, Season 18
Natalie & Nadiya, Season 21
Caroline & Jennifer, Season 22
Joey & Meghan, Season 22
Dave & Connor, Season 22
Jessica & John, Season 22
Leo & Jamal, Season 23


Dream cast:

Quote
Amani & Marcus, Season 19
Bill & Cathi, Season 19
Brendon & Rachel, Season 20
Bopper & Mark, Season 20

Jaymes & James, Season 21
Natalie & Nadiya, Season 21
Max & Katie, Season 22
Caroline & Jennifer, Season 22
Dave & Connor, Season 22
Tim & Marie, Season 23
Leo & Jamal, Season 23
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 17, 2016, 09:11:14 AM
Rewatched TAR12 and omg, that India leg is probably my favorite of the entire show's.

EVERYONE delivered so hard (Kent & Vyxsin/Nate & Jenn/Ron & Chris) <333333

Even though Nicolas & Don were low-key quiet, Don then collapsed near the Pit Stop and I realised why they were quiet for the leg :lol: Nic's random comments and Don being an expert at another thing they run into lol <3

It was also excruciatingly competitive, with placements jumping up and down the whole way.

What a phenomenal leg and episode. If only TK & Rachel got eliminated instead, then it would have been one of my favorite episode PERIOD. What a journey.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on May 24, 2016, 01:12:12 AM
TAR12-13's India leg are probably BEST Indian leg ever in a roll. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on May 24, 2016, 09:29:59 PM
Why is this more suspenseful than the last 2, 3, 4, 5 or so seasons?

https://www.youtube.com/v/_TTdy2nVCj0

And this was a race for 2nd. In 2016, they would cut all of this out (ok, maybe not because of Rachel :lol: )
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 24, 2016, 09:34:14 PM
Brenchel <3 Joey & Danny <3

TAR20 was one of the seasons that definitely still had the suspense and the Paraguay leg was great. Biggest suspense moment though was STILL Vanessa & Ralph vs. Elliot & Andrew at the Roadblock to the Pit Stop. The music, the tension, everything just clicked together so so well.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on May 24, 2016, 09:37:58 PM
Haha, I've rewatched Vanessa & Ralph vs. Elliot & Andrew quite a few times but never remembered this gem that is Brendon & Rachel vs. Joey & Danny :lol:

I wanted to make it a point that they're racing for 2nd, not 1st or last. And they still made an effort to edit this nicely. Unlike today... :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 24, 2016, 10:10:06 PM
Agreed. Had this been modern-day TAR we would just have both teams at the mat already with the "2nd Place and 3rd Place" captions out already. *sighs*

Considering 29 is already delayed and it might be a sign of the end, they need to fire the editors of the new era and go back to the old ASAP.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 25, 2016, 10:21:06 AM
I wish we could list all the editing styles and choices that classic TAR did that were good that current TAR doesn't do, and then make some grand post or email to the editors
Here are my takes on the different editing styles.
TAR1
• "Point A to Point B" / the whole season pretty much focused on the basic concept of getting from place to place while trying to make the least amount of mistakes and holdups possible + the dramas of traveling with each other.
TAR2-5
• "Travels of the Crazy Americans-ism" :lol: / Showing over-the-top personalities of racers and their moments with a genuine side of appreciation, incompetence and-or contempt with each other. The locations visited also revealed how different they were to these racers by the locals they met and still had significant stylings of point A to point B.
TAR6-10
• "Heroes vs Enemies" / After some quips between teams in season 5, the race was geared more toward drama to bring in ratings while still showing the triumphant efforts of the teams who were generally favorable. Brought visited locations into an even more specifically cultural and geographical light, especially the United States during season 8.
TAR11-17 (My personal favorite)
• "Suspense-ism" / Like CrossFit: fast-paced music, quick wits and adrenaline are what powered this contemporary era of TAR. Hilarious moments and unforgettable drama between teams and teammates proved that the race is no joke and that "they don't call it The Amazing Race for nothin'".
TAR18-20
• "HD Transition" / Leading into a new era of TAR, a simple basketball game at the rest period in Kunming, China showed that the race was beginning to relax and wasn't all sugar rushed and frantic. Though, elements of Suspense were utilized during crazy moments and tasks.
TAR21-28
• "Travel Log-ism" / Generally unexciting, this mix of teams completing tasks around the world and showing their dislike and friendships with other teams document their journey in a sometimes overdramatic and straightforward way. Sloppy consistency is not to be missed. And there are elements of Suspense here and there RESERVED for moments when teams are screaming and kicking at each other.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on May 25, 2016, 11:01:45 AM
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Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on May 25, 2016, 11:45:23 AM
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Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARUSAFan on May 25, 2016, 06:53:36 PM
Bring back the editing style of TAR 11-17, fire your current editors as they are contributing to the downfall of TAR with sloppy editing. Rachel's post above sums up the editing style of TAR through the years. They should hire gamerfan09 from RFF as a video editor, I honestly loved how he edited TAR 27, he made it more watchable. Justin & Diana weren't hogging the screentime. We here super TAR fans from RFF should be used as consultants, like an open forum where we voice out our opinions and a person/producer from TAR takes note of them, studies them and puts it into practice whatever is beneficial for the upcoming seasons. To the people behind TAR, look at your successful previous seasons (11-17) and capitalize on that. I did not bother when American Idol was axed (I loyally watched it along with TAR), but if TAR gets axed. It's a big NO!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: scruffs on May 25, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
I am rewatching season finales from first 10 seasons and I think airport dramas were so not the thing on recent seasons. Also, the finale always consisting of 2 legs. So anything can really happen. How wish the intensity and drama is still in it. How sad its not what it seems lately.  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 25, 2016, 10:48:25 PM
Bring back the editing style of TAR 11-17, fire your current editors as they are contributing to the downfall of TAR with sloppy editing. Rachel's post above sums up the editing style of TAR through the years. They should hire gamerfan09 from RFF as a video editor, I honestly loved how he edited TAR 27, he made it more watchable. Justin & Diana weren't hogging the screentime. We here super TAR fans from RFF should be used as consultants, like an open forum where we voice out our opinions and a person/producer from TAR takes note of them, studies them and puts it into practice whatever is beneficial for the upcoming seasons. To the people behind TAR, look at your successful previous seasons (11-17) and capitalize on that. I did not bother when American Idol was axed (I loyally watched it along with TAR), but if TAR gets axed. It's a big NO!

Thanks for the kind words <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2016, 08:59:04 PM
Rewatched TAR5 again with my family (their first time to watch 5 after only regularly watching from TAR19), and it's really such a journey <3

Every single team (except for Marshall & Lancer) delivers hard, the legs are all fun, and it's just such a well-done season.

I mean, we had a SINGLE LEG (the Dubai leg :lol:) have NOTHING but Transportation related drama in Tanzania for TWENTY WHOLE MINUTES WITHOUT ANY TASKS and it was still more exciting and gripping than anything in the past 16 seasons. :lol:

Wow. Just wow. TAR5 was already in my top 3 seasons ever and this rewatch nearly pushes it above 3 for me :lol:

Also:
One of my favorite confessional edits EVER:

Colin & Christie confessional: We can trust Chip & Kim, we love them ^_^
Kim confessional: I want Colin & Christie to SELF DESTRUCT!!!

:lol: <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 05, 2016, 01:20:38 AM
If this is still discussing our favorite challenges, let's not forget the memory challenge from Season 12!  :luvya: :cheer: That still gives me goosebumps.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on June 05, 2016, 03:18:17 PM
Added a new thread for THOUGHTFUL discussion of Where we are going, Suggestions for the Future. Tell CBS how you think we can improve TAR.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,32182.0.html
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on June 06, 2016, 04:30:39 PM
I'm currently rewatching TAR25 and I've just finished the 9th episode, the Singapore leg.
It's honestly such a perfect episode and one of the best in the entire history of TAR.

Flight drama? Yes.
Great tasks? Yes.
Cultural relevance? Yes.
Additional ARI task? Yes.
Fast forward? Yes. With drama, too.
Placement shuffles? Yes.
Suspense? Yes.
U-Turn drama? Yes, in a positive way.
Team drama & strategy? Oh yes.

This has to be one of the saddest eliminations, too. Mostly because I'm a huge fan of the cyclists and BADLY want them to return (which I'm pretty sure they will), but also because of the editing. THE EDITING WAS AMAZING, I really don't remember such a well-edited episode in recent TAR. I'm not able to go into detail with editing, but it simply added a lot of suspense, showcased all the teams' mindsets and strategy + showed social interactions and was also HUMOROUS. The title quote is so amazing as well, "You're taking my tan off!" :lol: Oh how I wish Brooke & Robbie were still together, but wouldn't it be amazing if they returned as team exes? Though I have little hope.
There's honestly not one thing I missed in this episode. Apart from the outcome, which doesn't influence my opinion of a leg unless it's a NEL after a really hard leg, this is a perfect leg for me.

What was the opinion of RFF about this one? During TAR25, I didn't visit this forum at all, because we were binge watching the season with some friends and after the finale I didn't have any interest to read all of the threads. :P By the way, after this episode I'm fully convinced that it was worth rewatching this season, because I didn't love it as much on my first watch - due to not being as attentive when viewing in a group.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 06, 2016, 06:31:45 PM
25 is great but tbh my favorite episode is the Morocco leg lol.

Singapore was great, but that was also partly because of the actual episode and not the tasks (which are all almost from TARA :lol:).
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on June 07, 2016, 09:18:11 AM
Which Morroco leg?

Leg 6 had a very underwhelming roadblock and lacked suspense due to Shelley & Nici being totally out of it.
And leg 5 had amazing tasks, an awesome ARI and a well-placed U-Turn, too, but Keith & Whitney were really out of it? Even if they weren't U-Turned, they would've been doomed.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 07, 2016, 09:54:25 AM
Which Morroco leg?

Leg 6 had a very underwhelming roadblock and lacked suspense due to Shelley & Nici being totally out of it.
And leg 5 had amazing tasks, an awesome ARI and a well-placed U-Turn, too, but Keith & Whitney were really out of it? Even if they weren't U-Turned, they would've been doomed.

Leg 5 duh. Leg 6 was pretty eh sans Kym & Alli attempting to sing and Brooke bitching the whole leg.

Leg 5 was amazing though, despite Keithney being out! I would argue they weren't really out up until the Detour, but that entire plot of them vs. Shelley/Nici was just so well-crafted. Arguing with Shelley & Nici intersped with Misti knocking out Shelley's bike as a red herring followed with Shelley & Nici then gleefully running in their highest finish yet to the U-Turn board before cutting to commercial and giving true suspense over their decision? Sheer amazingness.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Caelestor on June 07, 2016, 09:17:28 PM
I still maintain that the seasons that embody the best of TAR are 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, and 25, with 1, 7, 10, and 18 a bit more flawed but close behind.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 11, 2016, 02:44:00 AM
Anyone who hasn't seen TAR3/5 are missing out on the greatest seasons of Reality TV ever.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on June 11, 2016, 06:44:37 PM
I still maintain that the seasons that embody the best of TAR are 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, and 25, with 1, 7, 10, and 18 a bit more flawed but close behind.

I mostly agree.  I think those seasons are definitely the best.  3 and 5 especially at the top.  12 & 17 then 2 then 25 to represent the remaining potential TAR still has.  I'd add 4 to the next tier as well.

10 is definitely next in line to the top tier, but the last Leg really drags the season down.  7 is so meh.  Meredith & Gretchen are All-Stars, but the season overall is mostly cringe worthy.  I'd suggest 11 over 18 as it's an overall much better season and cast in spite of the result.  And TAR1 is such an outlier I think.  It's of course the most classic, but the season just feels so different from what TAR2 even looked like.  Just different editing and different Leg design of course being the first almost test run.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on June 12, 2016, 04:06:44 PM
TAR 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, & 9 are all top-tier seasons with 4, 10, & 11 not far behind. 12, 17, & 25 are all good but kinda over-rated. 21, 22, & 23 are decent.

All new/recent fans should watch the original seasons and see how much better the show. The episodes are were more fun and intense.

Fans should be demanding a better product instead of just accepting whatever the producers give them.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 13, 2016, 12:24:47 AM
7 is so meh.  Meredith & Gretchen are All-Stars, but the season overall is mostly cringe worthy. 

X

I don't get TAR7 love at all? I thought it was such a boring cesspool of entertainment even though I didn't mind Romber and was just meh on Uchenna & Joyce winning.

Whenever people say it's a top-tier season I just scratch my head.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 13, 2016, 04:09:39 AM
Finished rewatching TAR6 and wow it was still good or even better on rewatch. No TAR3/5 but it's still great.

Teams: Hayden & Aaron <33333333 What a top tier team omg and Adam & Rebecca + Lori & Bolo are iconic too (I can't believe it took me an entire rewatch to discover Hayden & Aaron's star power lol). It goes to show that drama can be fun while not losing the essence of the show. There are probably like multiple rivalries per episode and I was here for it :lol: <3 Also, Gus & Hera probably have one of the biggest morphs I have had on a team on rewatch. On first watch they were kinda eh but on rewatch, the minute Gus threw constant shade on Jonathan & Victoria and wanted to get drunk on the Detour I was absolutely here for it alol <3 Ditto with Don & Mary-Jean. Lena & Kristy's journey also sucks even more on rewatch because they really did have the potential to do well :/

The Final Three is also rly underwhelming on rewatch. I love Adam & Rebecca but meh on the two others. If anything, KKKendra's comments really didn't bother me that much on rewatch (since it's not like she dwelled on it the entire episode even though it was awful), but their win was just so underwhelming because aside from them at the Soup RB + "JONATHAN HELP HER!!!!!" + Freddy's Rail meltdown + Kendra getting knocked out by a bungee RB, they really weren't a dynamic team and it sucked they won. Same with Kris & Jon who are rly rly MORboring on rewatch and didn't really have a lot of standout eps.

Also Jonvic are probably even worse on rewatch. What despicable human beings. If they're not camwhoring and being attention-whores, they're so loud and unhealthy for each other. Jonathan is also probably the worst male racer on this show that isn't Justin or Dave. Victoria is also godawful because she can end up just like Jonathan at times.

Meredith & Maria + Avi & Joe are probably some of the most irrelevant first-boots of all time so thank god they were out early.

Episodes: Generally decent season but some legs were eh (the Premiere was so boring) and some were absolutely phenomenal (The Ethiopia leg is probably one of my favorite African legs EVER + the boot was so deliciously satisfying).

I'm also surprised the only task that they made a Switchback on TAR6 was the Haybale RB.

Some of the tasks like:
-The Hungary Soup RB
-The Skate Down a Mountain Detour in Norway (everyone falling down and switching :lol: <3)
-The Grape Stomp RB (it is never not fun watching multiple teams do the task and have everyone rushing to finish quick)
-The Ethiopia RB
-The Xi'An Lock RB (ok they basically did it on 21 but we need many many teams to be on that fence with preferable less locks so no one gets robbed like Hayden)

are very very good tasks (TAR6 excelling at RBs <3 There really was no RB I didn't like aside from the Sri Lanka and Finale RB tbh) and deserve to be brought back.

Overall: I've begun my journey to rewatch all seasons of The Amazing Race for quite some time now, and now that I've fully done TAR1-8 (rewatching 10 now because I hate 9 and will watch the awful ones last), I can rank the first 8 seasons of the golden era with some shifting in placements now!

Ranking:

TAR3=TAR5 (The temptation to put one over the other is too damn high but they are both the gold standards of the show)
TAR2 (introduced a LOT of great concepts to the show and after 1 my tendency is to overrate 2 but it really is a great season)
TAR8 (dwi if they only went even more international after Panama/Costa Rica I could honestly see it in my Top 3 ever + the finale was phenomenal)
TAR6 (would be equal to 8 and 2 if we had a much better endgame, the endgame of TAR6 has nothing on the glorious F7 of TAR8 and ditto with 8 not hitting 3/5 standards due to some really bad US legs.)

*slight gap*

TAR1 (Interesting to see how the show started but it got really boring at times. Perhaps recent editing of 2 and beyond spoiled me. Still solid though due to some amazing teams.)

*gap*
TAR4 (the early europe legs were so painful and aside from Kelly & Jon and Tian & Jaree no one rly shone)

*huge gap*
TAR7 (surprise! it sucks even more on rewatch and I don't love Romber on it as much as I used too and after Meredith & Gretchen were out I couldn't care less anymore :( )
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on June 19, 2016, 12:42:42 PM
Nah...TAR6 is really painful on a rewatch, especially with Jonathan & Kendra lasting so deep in the race. Joe & Avi would've been a fun polarizing team. They were way too many couples on the season. It's for good reason that no team was picked for the real All-Stars (S11).


Finished rewatching TAR6 and wow it was still good or even better on rewatch. No TAR3/5 but it's still great.

Teams: Hayden & Aaron <33333333 What a top tier team omg and Adam & Rebecca + Lori & Bolo are iconic too (I can't believe it took me an entire rewatch to discover Hayden & Aaron's star power lol). It goes to show that drama can be fun while not losing the essence of the show. There are probably like multiple rivalries per episode and I was here for it :lol: <3 Also, Gus & Hera probably have one of the biggest morphs I have had on a team on rewatch. On first watch they were kinda eh but on rewatch, the minute Gus threw constant shade on Jonathan & Victoria and wanted to get drunk on the Detour I was absolutely here for it alol <3 Ditto with Don & Mary-Jean. Lena & Kristy's journey also sucks even more on rewatch because they really did have the potential to do well :/

The Final Three is also rly underwhelming on rewatch. I love Adam & Rebecca but meh on the two others. If anything, KKKendra's comments really didn't bother me that much on rewatch (since it's not like she dwelled on it the entire episode even though it was awful), but their win was just so underwhelming because aside from them at the Soup RB + "JONATHAN HELP HER!!!!!" + Freddy's Rail meltdown + Kendra getting knocked out by a bungee RB, they really weren't a dynamic team and it sucked they won. Same with Kris & Jon who are rly rly MORboring on rewatch and didn't really have a lot of standout eps.

Also Jonvic are probably even worse on rewatch. What despicable human beings. If they're not camwhoring and being attention-whores, they're so loud and unhealthy for each other. Jonathan is also probably the worst male racer on this show that isn't Justin or Dave. Victoria is also godawful because she can end up just like Jonathan at times.

Meredith & Maria + Avi & Joe are probably some of the most irrelevant first-boots of all time so thank god they were out early.

Episodes: Generally decent season but some legs were eh (the Premiere was so boring) and some were absolutely phenomenal (The Ethiopia leg is probably one of my favorite African legs EVER + the boot was so deliciously satisfying).

I'm also surprised the only task that they made a Switchback on TAR6 was the Haybale RB.

Some of the tasks like:
-The Hungary Soup RB
-The Skate Down a Mountain Detour in Norway (everyone falling down and switching :lol: <3)
-The Grape Stomp RB (it is never not fun watching multiple teams do the task and have everyone rushing to finish quick)
-The Ethiopia RB
-The Xi'An Lock RB (ok they basically did it on 21 but we need many many teams to be on that fence with preferable less locks so no one gets robbed like Hayden)

are very very good tasks (TAR6 excelling at RBs <3 There really was no RB I didn't like aside from the Sri Lanka and Finale RB tbh) and deserve to be brought back.

Overall: I've begun my journey to rewatch all seasons of The Amazing Race for quite some time now, and now that I've fully done TAR1-8 (rewatching 10 now because I hate 9 and will watch the awful ones last), I can rank the first 8 seasons of the golden era with some shifting in placements now!

Ranking:

TAR3=TAR5 (The temptation to put one over the other is too damn high but they are both the gold standards of the show)
TAR2 (introduced a LOT of great concepts to the show and after 1 my tendency is to overrate 2 but it really is a great season)
TAR8 (dwi if they only went even more international after Panama/Costa Rica I could honestly see it in my Top 3 ever + the finale was phenomenal)
TAR6 (would be equal to 8 and 2 if we had a much better endgame, the endgame of TAR6 has nothing on the glorious F7 of TAR8 and ditto with 8 not hitting 3/5 standards due to some really bad US legs.)

*slight gap*

TAR1 (Interesting to see how the show started but it got really boring at times. Perhaps recent editing of 2 and beyond spoiled me. Still solid though due to some amazing teams.)

*gap*
TAR4 (the early europe legs were so painful and aside from Kelly & Jon and Tian & Jaree no one rly shone)

*huge gap*
TAR7 (surprise! it sucks even more on rewatch and I don't love Romber on it as much as I used too and after Meredith & Gretchen were out I couldn't care less anymore :( )
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 19, 2016, 06:31:32 PM
Nah...TAR6 is really painful on a rewatch, especially with Jonathan & Kendra lasting so deep in the race. Joe & Avi would've been a fun polarizing team. They were way too many couples on the season. It's for good reason that no team was picked for the real All-Stars (S11).

Kendra wasn't even that awful aside from her Africa comments... she was just either really boring or annoying.

And Jonathan & Victoria's consistently disgusting edit felt VERY VERY REWARDING with their elim.

Avi & Joe were so irrelevant lol, wtf @ them being potentially fun? All I remember is "New York Jews in Iceland" and then they went and got eliminated.

Also Kris & Jon were supposed to return but Eric & Danielle got cast instead apparently so yeah.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 21, 2016, 04:22:07 PM
Nah...TAR6 is really painful on a rewatch, especially with Jonathan & Kendra lasting so deep in the race. Joe & Avi would've been a fun polarizing team. They were way too many couples on the season. It's for good reason that no team was picked for the real All-Stars (S11).

Kendra wasn't even that awful aside from her Africa comments... she was just either really boring or annoying.

And Jonathan & Victoria's consistently disgusting edit felt VERY VERY REWARDING with their elim.

Avi & Joe were so irrelevant lol, wtf @ them being potentially fun? All I remember is "New York Jews in Iceland" and then they went and got eliminated.

Also Kris & Jon were supposed to return but Eric & Danielle got cast instead apparently so yeah.
I think the most cringing part of that season apart from Jonathan & Victoria and Kendra's insensitive comments was the Budapest portion of leg 6. I don't think I have ever had a negative personal feeling about an episode until that aired. Easily one of the grossest episodes I have ever seen and scared me enough to avoid eating Hungarian food or any red soups (tomato soup :barf) because of that, not to mention the blood drinking Fast Forward.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on June 21, 2016, 06:39:00 PM
The Hungary double-episode was actually one of the best of the season???

My Leg/Episode Rank would be:

Amazing:
1. Leg 8 (France → Ethiopia)
2. Leg 2 (Iceland → Norway)
3. Leg 6 (Germany → Hungary)
4. Leg 5 (Senegal → Germany)
5. Leg 10 (Sri Lanka → China) [TAR6 probably has some of my favorite China legs and idek why]
6. Leg 11 (China)

Great:
7. Leg 7 (Hungary → France) [Wine RB <3]
8. Leg 4 (Sweden → Senegal) [Liked the tasks but the fishing Detour was boring tbh]

Good:
9. Leg 9 (Ethiopia → Sri Lanka) [Swimming Pool and DT aside, the RB was so out of place and meh]

Meh:
10. Leg 3 (Norway → Sweden) [Hay Bales and Shots aside IKEA is not a good place to do a Detour in]

Bad:
11. Leg 1 (USA → Iceland)
12. Leg 12 (China → USA)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on June 21, 2016, 08:20:11 PM
The Spicy Soup RB was absolutely disgusting, but also one of the most hilarious moments ever on TAR.
Most especially when Freddy vomited back into his soup and still had to eat it much to the horror of a crying Kendra.

Jonathan & Victoria are interesting. While the shoving is certainly, actually, disgusting, they would otherwise be a hilarious bickering couple.  They both dished out as much as they got.  Then you couple that with Jonathan being randomly nice to African kids and talking about the "President of Synagogue."  They'd be All-Star material if it weren't for that horrible moment at the Pit Stop. Oh well.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on June 22, 2016, 11:10:51 PM
The Spicy Soup RB was absolutely disgusting, but also one of the most hilarious moments ever on TAR.
Most especially when Freddy vomited back into his soup and still had to eat it much to the horror of a crying Kendra.

Jonathan & Victoria are interesting. While the shoving is certainly, actually, disgusting, they would otherwise be a hilarious bickering couple.  They both dished out as much as they got.  Then you couple that with Jonathan being randomly nice to African kids and talking about the "President of Synagogue."  They'd be All-Star material if it weren't for that horrible moment at the Pit Stop. Oh well.
I have never had tomato soup or any soup of that color ever since. I nearly vomited when I saw that borscht Detour in season 13. And yeah, Jonathan & Victoria made for a roller coast ride, but I simply wasn't a fan of that ride. The shoving, the yelling at each other, and Victoria looking like Jonathan's monkey sidekick than wife - those were moments I wish I could un-see from that season.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on July 05, 2016, 11:44:37 AM
Watch the first four episodes of Season 3 and lol it's really delivered.

I can't decide whether the twin hunt was meant to be funny or pathetic, but it mostly SOOO over the top. :lol: Aaron & Arriane (or whatever her name is :lol:) is PSYCHOTIC and them bitching about Derek & Drew the entire leg is so freaking... umm... Weird? :lol: :lol: Like, the twin aren't doing anything to them so I kind of get confused that they were really this vindictive. (Also noted that the twin actually placed 11th on the first leg so lol at all the teams targetting them. <33) :lol:

Gotta say the cast is really impressive and each elimination is like a loss of gem. I also like Derek & Drew for handling the situation so classy. (Unlike *cough*accidentalalliance*cough*) And Flo is starting to show her potential with her bitching at Zach for forgetting her on the boat. LOL. I WANT MORE OF THIS. Teri & Ian is also amazing on this 10x more than 11. So this is a really thrill ride so far!

PS. OMG at Heather & Eve's dramatic penalty exit. LOL. Kind of sad that they have to go since I think they have potential to go really far. (Good at navigation, very manipulative and always place on the front of the pack) </3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on July 05, 2016, 12:37:31 PM
Like why were they so threatened by the twins unless they were psychic!  :funny: The twins placed 11th on leg 1 and 1st on leg 2 because they took the FF  :funny:. Like why??? But S3 was <3333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 05, 2016, 08:37:20 PM
Watch the first four episodes of Season 3 and lol it's really delivered.

I can't decide whether the twin hunt was meant to be funny or pathetic, but it mostly SOOO over the top. :lol: Aaron & Arriane (or whatever her name is :lol:) is PSYCHOTIC and them bitching about Derek & Drew the entire leg is so freaking... umm... Weird? :lol: :lol: Like, the twin aren't doing anything to them so I kind of get confused that they were really this vindictive. (Also noted that the twin actually placed 11th on the first leg so lol at all the teams targetting them. <33) :lol:

Gotta say the cast is really impressive and each elimination is like a loss of gem. I also like Derek & Drew for handling the situation so classy. (Unlike *cough*accidentalalliance*cough*) And Flo is starting to show her potential with her bitching at Zach for forgetting her on the boat. LOL. I WANT MORE OF THIS. Teri & Ian is also amazing on this 10x more than 11. So this is a really thrill ride so far!

PS. OMG at Heather & Eve's dramatic penalty exit. LOL. Kind of sad that they have to go since I think they have potential to go really far. (Good at navigation, very manipulative and always place on the front of the pack) </3

Keepcopz if you thought that was amazing, I can't wait for you to hit #dieselgate and the second half of the season <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on July 06, 2016, 07:03:15 AM
Halfway through season 3 and all I can say is LOL.

The #dieselgate is simply amazing. (And I thought Adam & Rebecca's trainwreck journey in Iceland is at its finest, TAR3 played it before and better. <33) Broken car during the middle of nowhere in the middle of Spain at 1am appreciation. <33333 Michale & Kathy and Aaron & Arianne are so fucked over by this and resulted in the next 2 consecutive boots. :lol: I love the early season that despite how simple the task were, the navigation and every little mistakes you make along the way really play a big part in each elimination (for this leg and the leg in the future, LOL at Aaron & Arianne had no chance whatsoever to survive after they decided to SIT AROUND AND CRYING ON THE ROAD despite trying to seek for some solution. <3)

It also give us one of the most amazing bipolar interaction of the racer ever.
Flo: OMFG, I won't go on that car. I have a bad feeling and it's gonna EXPLODED.
*minutes later*
Flo: OMFG Zach, we're BACK IN THE GAME. OMG. OMG. <33333
LOL. :lol: And after bitching and throwing shade at Ian for yelling at her, told Zach she's way better at lying and finish last of the pack for the selling RB (Queen though <3). They randomly placed 2nd on that leg because other taxis are too suck to realize where that guesthouse is lol. :lol: <3

Watching this season make me feel the really *authentic* atmosphere of each country. It just felt so REAL. Like when Team 911 got lost and were dumped by their Taxi into middle of nowhere in Morocco. (I think this is really dangerous but like, it's just show that everything can happened and super unpredictable) I just hope we can resurrect that feeling back to the nowadays season again because watching the recent seasons right now compare to this season is like compare Oscar Nomination with some crappy parody made by high school students which is really sad.

Anyway, halfway through it and I really enjoyed this season. Can't wait for the latter half of it. <3
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 06, 2016, 07:22:15 AM
The best part about #dieselgate is it effectively ends the #TwinHunt storyline... and what better way to end it than with the people who started it, Aaron & Arianne, crying their eyes out on the highway while Derek & Drew passes them? :lol: <3333333

Watching this season make me feel the really *authentic* atmosphere of each country. It just felt so REAL. Like when Team 911 got lost and were dumped by their Taxi into middle of nowhere in Morocco. (I think this is really dangerous but like, it's just show that everything can happened and super unpredictable) I just hope we can resurrect that feeling back to the nowadays season again because watching the recent seasons right now compare to this season is like compare Oscar Nomination with some crappy parody made by high school students which is really sad.

This is truth.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 18, 2016, 03:14:35 AM
TAR26 is a top 10 season (TAR3/5/6/8/11/12/17/18/25 being the other 9) aside from the ending 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 18, 2016, 05:22:12 AM
Rewatched TAR13. Wow what a difference a season makes on rewatch.

Edgic:

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Cast-Wise:

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I used to really love Toni & Dallas... but now I saw them as absolutely boring racebots who brought nothing to the show.  :groan: Aside from Kazakhstan onwards, they did nothing but blandly complete tasks. Toni was alright, but Dallas literally had the personality of a doorknob for me =/

Nick & Starr are much worse on rewatch too. The flirtmance between those two teams also made me roll my eyes so hard. I hate that both made the Final Four since those Russian legs were absolutely BOOOOORING. The penultimate Russian leg is probably one of the worst pre-finale legs EVER. I also take their win much worse now since I find Starr's whining unbearable on rewatch and when Starr's not being annoying, they are absolutely boring racebots. My opinion on them dropped so much that they are now bottom half of TARUS winners.

New #1 is Terence & Sarah, their brand of constantly doing well and getting screwed over (and alternating with dominating and being complete trainwrecks almost every leg) was absolute fun and everytime Sarah says "HI GUYS" when another team comes I legit burst out laughing since it pops out SOOOO much. Not to mention they were almost always fun to watch whether they were doing well or being trainwrecks. I was legit crushed when they were eliminated, if only Nick & Starr lost that FF :(

Also their best running gags (that are probably unintentional) are:
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-Sarah always yelling "HI GUYS" everytime she sees another team
-Sarah always learning "FAST" in the language of the countries she goes to
-Sarah unintentionally referring to Terence as a girl at least once
-Terence bitching at Sarah followed by Terence immediately telling themselves to not argue

And some of their best moments are:

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-"AND THEY DIDNT EVEN SAY HI TO US"
-Terence randomly bumping his head on the bumper of their cab and later bitching to Ken while having a band-aid on his head
-Their entire Taxi messup in Brazil 2
-Sarah encouraging Terence to kiss the Maori warriors at the New Zealand Roadblock
-Their entire kiwi Detour performance
-Being so flustered at the Launder Money Detour
-Their bitching and random negativity towards the task judge at the Teary Eyed Detour
-Sarah's random moments of being gentle with animals and digging in bird seed :lol: <3

Such an iconic dating team <3 It really speaks volumes that the season instantly went meh and hit some low lows after they and Kelly & Christy went. Too bad too that they broke up before UB but 13 was ignored so C'est La Vie.

#2 is Dan & Andrew simply because in an era where we see a lot of teams literally not move up or down, it was hilarious to see them mess up at literally EVERYWHERE.

Basically:
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-Failing to count the steps on Leg 1 and being the only team to repeat the Hard Way Up Detour
-Instantly dropping to last place after getting the Statue ARI in Bolivia in first
-Failing to crank oil while everyone else failed to struggle at all in Cambodia
-Having their ENTIRE Detour fly away in India :lol: <3
-Their entire adventure with the cow Detour in Kazakhstan
-Starting the Russian leg with hotel slippers and wasting their money on new shoes
-THE MARCHING :lol:
-"We're not going to just be chicken feed for Nick & Starr and Ken & Tina" *proceeds to get CURRENTLY IN LAST PLACE the whole way on the finale* :lol: <3
-Getting randomly sprayed by water via a running truck :lol: <33333

And here's a video detailing their iconic moments lol <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njezNMXKoRU

I'm surprised how much I loved them on rewatch considering I was meh on them originally. Probably one of my favorite all-male teams now.

#3 (tied for #2) is Kelly & Christy because like Dandrew, their brand of trainwreck is something recent seasons just cannot reproduce such as:

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-Them ALWAYS saying to not count them out as a strong team immediately followed by them barely surviving almost every leg
-Their entire adventures in South America (Getting lost while looking for the VERY FIRST clue/DIGGING for a SHIPPING CONTAINER in SAND, "WE HAVE LEARNED TO READ THE CLUE" *cut to them failing to read the next clue after*,Letting their Taxi go while it was literally just next to them/Crashing while on Bolivian Bicycles, my goodness, how on earth did they survive South America? :lol: <3)
-RUNNING UP MOUNT EDEN to the New Zealand RB while everyone else drove up and somehow still beating Dandrew to the latter's extreme annoyance
-Their endeavours with crushing kiwis
-Being in first but getting so lost at the gas station clue in Cambodia that they drop to 2nd to last (AND ENTERING THE RESTROOM LOOKING FOR THE CLUE :lol: <333333)
-"DO WE TAKE HER TEETH" and performing part of the Cambodia Detour without even getting the clue
-Their random bitchiness at anything and everything that irritated every other team :lol: <3

And really, their final leg was just moment after moment such as:
-Them randomly talking about making out with Dandrew :lol:
-Their entire Holi Roadblock run (im flabbergasted at how horrible they did it but somehow NOT finish in last)
-Them running while painted looking for cabs (and deciding to stick their faces out the window to scare Indian locals :lol: <333333)
-"Bank of India" "American McDonald's" :lol:
-Attempting to perform the Detour while in a rickshaw :lol: <3

They were so much better on rewatch as well and they're probably up there with classic trainwrecks such as Tian & Jaree/Kami & Karli to be honest lol <3

Ken & Tina are self-explanatorily great too.

Everyone else was really meh or didn't stand out. I liked Anita & Arthur enough but that overall dark green isn't exactly a glowing reccomendation. The teams in light green at least gave me an impression, Aja & Ty and Anthony & Stephanie were absolute bores.

Overall I don't like this cast. With a worse boot order it could have been the new TAR7.

Episode-Wise:

When I first watched TAR13, I thought it was meh overall, but that was because it followed 11 and 12.

Now, I see TAR13 as something like TAR28 - a good season overall with some really high highs and some really painful lows.

Highs are definitely New Zealand (TAR13 has the best NZ leg ever?? <3) and the India x2 (BEST INDIA NIGHT LEG FOLLOWED BY A TOP 3 INDIA DAY LEG <33333) - Kazakhstan stretch is probably my favorite string of episodes in a non TAR3/5/8/11/12/17/25 season.

I also previously enjoyed the Cambodia leg (and thought the Roadblock was great and one of the best tasks of the season), but when I went to Cambodia last year I tried to perform the Angkor Wat Roadblock and it only took me 15 minutes to perform and 10 minutes to go to Bayon Temple (the Pit Stop) so I instantly saw the leg as really bad as the tasks were too easy :lol:

Painful lows were South America - Cambodia - Russia x2 to the Finale definitely. (The last three legs alone (and the fact that the legs I absolutely hate are 1/2 of the season) probably ruin the season's newly built goodwill for me and prevent me from marking it as an "OMG AMAZING" season. Considering 14-16 would happen after 13 also did not help matters.)

But overall I don't regret watching TAR13 again (although I wanted its final three episodes to give me my time back) and I'm gonna watch TAR10 next!  :trampb:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on July 18, 2016, 11:10:09 AM
Really, you didn't enjoy the Russian II in 13? That is my favourite leg of the season. :lol: :lol:

I like that all the tasks involved solving puzzle and navigating through the city. But yeah, the passport incident really ruined all the suspense in this leg. But design-wise, I actually really love it!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 19, 2016, 08:05:04 AM
Really, you didn't enjoy the Russian II in 13? That is my favourite leg of the season. :lol: :lol:

I like that all the tasks involved solving puzzle and navigating through the city. But yeah, the passport incident really ruined all the suspense in this leg. But design-wise, I actually really love it!

Yup lol.

I hated it because I thought that the tasks were too confusingly worded. There is a fine line between a cryptic task for the sake of being clever and a cryptic task for the sake of being confusing. I also fell asleep during the Detour and thought the Speed Bump was the only fun task because one of the worst dancers in Amazing Race history did it.

Not to mention that I was actually slightly happy (:X) that Toni & Dallas were the team victimised by #PassportGate because it meant Dandrew in F3. If only it was Nick & Starr instead  (:;) (:;) (:;)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 19, 2016, 10:04:38 AM
Man, I am now in a rewatch of season 5

The episodes are amazing as the production spent most of the time on teams development and finding flight
In most of the episodes, the tasks are not the main focus of the episodes
For example, only 1 minute is spent to show Colin perform the New Zealand Roadblock  :wohoo:
and only 3 minutes are spent to show Colin & Christie get through the Leg in Cairo after getting the fast forward  :colors

The extra time saved can be used to show teams interaction and flight finding, which is the key of TAR
I now truly understand why season 5 marks the top of TAR  :conf:
It is not because of the tasks (tasks are simple), but because of the intense editing of episodes :cheer:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 19, 2016, 10:15:58 AM
Cairo is indeed amazing, I cannot believe Colin & Christie still ended up arguing after being more than 12 hours ahead ON A FAST FORWARD :lol: :lol: :lol: <3

The episodes are amazing as the production spent most of the time on teams development and finding flight
In most of the episodes, the tasks are not the main focus of the episodes

Yeah, the task-based editing began from TAR9 and sadly got worse from there :(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 19, 2016, 10:21:26 AM
Cairo is indeed amazing, I cannot believe Colin & Christie still ended up arguing after being more than 12 hours ahead ON A FAST FORWARD :lol: :lol: :lol: <3

The episodes are amazing as the production spent most of the time on teams development and finding flight
In most of the episodes, the tasks are not the main focus of the episodes

Yeah, the task-based editing began from TAR9 and sadly got worse from there :(
I remember that most of the times less than 2 minutes are used to show Colin & Christie get through a challenge  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jimmer on July 19, 2016, 04:06:15 PM
I recently rewatched and TARAus2 and I think that is one of the reasons why I think it is so good is because there is a lot of time spent on character development and the rivalry of everyone vs. Paul & Steve, and just the drama between all of the teams. And even if there was not drama within some teams, I feel like there was a lot of character development of the teams, like Lucy and Emilia, Sticky & Sam, Sue & Teresa, etc. There is not as much focus on the tasks, and while they are present, they are more about beating the other teams and being competitive and/or about enjoying the tasks and the race.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on July 20, 2016, 08:47:08 AM
I recently rewatched and TARAus2 and I think that is one of the reasons why I think it is so good is because there is a lot of time spent on character development and the rivalry of everyone vs. Paul & Steve, and just the drama between all of the teams. And even if there was not drama within some teams, I feel like there was a lot of character development of the teams, like Lucy and Emilia, Sticky & Sam, Sue & Teresa, etc. There is not as much focus on the tasks, and while they are present, they are more about beating the other teams and being competitive and/or about enjoying the tasks and the race.
This and a trillion! TAR Australia 2 is the first international version of the race I watched and everything from that season is perfectly seamed together and all the teams were very memorable from the team-based editing, especially Lucy & Emilia, Sticky & Sam, and James & Sarah. I hope next season can follow this style. The U.S. version needs sprucing, cleaning and freshening to say the least. :tup:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on July 20, 2016, 01:02:10 PM
Nah...I would say the editing got bad starting with S14 when airport-drama was cut to almost nil. In addition, producers focused more on troubling, less fun fights (Luke vs. Kisha) and wanted more shock value.

Cairo is indeed amazing, I cannot believe Colin & Christie still ended up arguing after being more than 12 hours ahead ON A FAST FORWARD :lol: :lol: :lol: <3

The episodes are amazing as the production spent most of the time on teams development and finding flight
In most of the episodes, the tasks are not the main focus of the episodes

Yeah, the task-based editing began from TAR9 and sadly got worse from there :(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on July 20, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
Nah...the beginning 3-4 of TAR26 drag it down in season rankings.

Don't forget Season 1 & 2 as both are awesome and fun seasons! (And 9 also!)

TAR26 is a top 10 season (TAR3/5/6/8/11/12/17/18/25 being the other 9) aside from the ending 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on July 20, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
TAR9 sucked lol I legit only cared for MoJo and was meh/hated on everyone else overall.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 21, 2016, 05:13:48 AM
TAR9 sucked lol I legit only cared for MoJo and was meh/hated on everyone else overall.
Watching BJ & Tyler and Eric & Jeremy being always ahead was extremely boring
The only exciting episode of that season for me is Oman, where the above two teams fell behind l
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on July 21, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
I recently rewatched and TARAus2 and I think that is one of the reasons why I think it is so good is because there is a lot of time spent on character development and the rivalry of everyone vs. Paul & Steve, and just the drama between all of the teams. And even if there was not drama within some teams, I feel like there was a lot of character development of the teams, like Lucy and Emilia, Sticky & Sam, Sue & Teresa, etc. There is not as much focus on the tasks, and while they are present, they are more about beating the other teams and being competitive and/or about enjoying the tasks and the race.
This and a trillion! TAR Australia 2 is the first international version of the race I watched and everything from that season is perfectly seamed together and all the teams were very memorable from the team-based editing, especially Lucy & Emilia, Sticky & Sam, and James & Sarah. I hope next season can follow this style. The U.S. version needs sprucing, cleaning and freshening to say the least. :tup:

If you're talking about TARAus 3 it doesn't :(

Alternatively, find TAR Canada 2 and watch the first 11 episodes :tup:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Leafsfan on July 21, 2016, 11:11:49 PM
I recently rewatched and TARAus2 and I think that is one of the reasons why I think it is so good is because there is a lot of time spent on character development and the rivalry of everyone vs. Paul & Steve, and just the drama between all of the teams. And even if there was not drama within some teams, I feel like there was a lot of character development of the teams, like Lucy and Emilia, Sticky & Sam, Sue & Teresa, etc. There is not as much focus on the tasks, and while they are present, they are more about beating the other teams and being competitive and/or about enjoying the tasks and the race.
This and a trillion! TAR Australia 2 is the first international version of the race I watched and everything from that season is perfectly seamed together and all the teams were very memorable from the team-based editing, especially Lucy & Emilia, Sticky & Sam, and James & Sarah. I hope next season can follow this style. The U.S. version needs sprucing, cleaning and freshening to say the least. :tup:

If you're talking about TARAus 3 it doesn't :(

Alternatively, find TAR Canada 2 and watch the first 11 episodes :tup:

There is is a third Australian season...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on July 22, 2016, 01:45:00 AM
I recently rewatched and TARAus2 and I think that is one of the reasons why I think it is so good is because there is a lot of time spent on character development and the rivalry of everyone vs. Paul & Steve, and just the drama between all of the teams. And even if there was not drama within some teams, I feel like there was a lot of character development of the teams, like Lucy and Emilia, Sticky & Sam, Sue & Teresa, etc. There is not as much focus on the tasks, and while they are present, they are more about beating the other teams and being competitive and/or about enjoying the tasks and the race.
This and a trillion! TAR Australia 2 is the first international version of the race I watched and everything from that season is perfectly seamed together and all the teams were very memorable from the team-based editing, especially Lucy & Emilia, Sticky & Sam, and James & Sarah. I hope next season can follow this style. The U.S. version needs sprucing, cleaning and freshening to say the least. :tup:

If you're talking about TARAus 3 it doesn't :(

Alternatively, find TAR Canada 2 and watch the first 11 episodes :tup:

There is is a third Australian season...
He's saying TARAus 3 doesn't have the same feel as TARAus 2.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on July 22, 2016, 01:51:12 AM
I recently rewatched and TARAus2 and I think that is one of the reasons why I think it is so good is because there is a lot of time spent on character development and the rivalry of everyone vs. Paul & Steve, and just the drama between all of the teams. And even if there was not drama within some teams, I feel like there was a lot of character development of the teams, like Lucy and Emilia, Sticky & Sam, Sue & Teresa, etc. There is not as much focus on the tasks, and while they are present, they are more about beating the other teams and being competitive and/or about enjoying the tasks and the race.
This and a trillion! TAR Australia 2 is the first international version of the race I watched and everything from that season is perfectly seamed together and all the teams were very memorable from the team-based editing, especially Lucy & Emilia, Sticky & Sam, and James & Sarah. I hope next season can follow this style. The U.S. version needs sprucing, cleaning and freshening to say the least. :tup:

If you're talking about TARAus 3 it doesn't :(

Alternatively, find TAR Canada 2 and watch the first 11 episodes :tup:

There is is a third Australian season...
He's saying TARAus 3 doesn't have the same feel as TARAus 2.

Actually he (first person) doesn't aware that TAR Aus 3 has already aired with different feel and style than TAR Aus 2.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on July 23, 2016, 01:42:13 PM
I recently rewatched and TARAus2 and I think that is one of the reasons why I think it is so good is because there is a lot of time spent on character development and the rivalry of everyone vs. Paul & Steve, and just the drama between all of the teams. And even if there was not drama within some teams, I feel like there was a lot of character development of the teams, like Lucy and Emilia, Sticky & Sam, Sue & Teresa, etc. There is not as much focus on the tasks, and while they are present, they are more about beating the other teams and being competitive and/or about enjoying the tasks and the race.
This and a trillion! TAR Australia 2 is the first international version of the race I watched and everything from that season is perfectly seamed together and all the teams were very memorable from the team-based editing, especially Lucy & Emilia, Sticky & Sam, and James & Sarah. I hope next season can follow this style. The U.S. version needs sprucing, cleaning and freshening to say the least. :tup:

If you're talking about TARAus 3 it doesn't :(

Alternatively, find TAR Canada 2 and watch the first 11 episodes :tup:

There is is a third Australian season...
He's saying TARAus 3 doesn't have the same feel as TARAus 2.

Actually he (first person) doesn't aware that TAR Aus 3 has already aired with different feel and style than TAR Aus 2.
Oh, whoops. I didn't think that phrase would cause a lot of confusion at first.

I meant I hoped TAR29 will follow the team emphasis on the race rather than centralizing on tasks.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on August 12, 2016, 05:48:31 AM
My favorite tasks would have to be the challenge at the end, when they have to remember where they went.
My least favourite is the head-shaving FF, because it just gets repeated over and over again :gaah:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on August 27, 2016, 06:34:57 AM
My favorite tasks would have to be the challenge at the end, when they have to remember where they went.
My least favourite is the head-shaving FF, because it just gets repeated over and over again :gaah:

3x + 1x (TARAUS) =/= over and over again
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on August 27, 2016, 06:50:35 AM
My favorite tasks would have to be the challenge at the end, when they have to remember where they went.
My least favourite is the head-shaving FF, because it just gets repeated over and over again :gaah:

3x + 1x (TARAUS) =/= over and over again
Well I BELIEVE that the head-shaving is overused
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Pi/ on August 27, 2016, 06:52:46 PM
Well I BELIEVE that the head-shaving is overused
Head-shaving: done 3 times
Australia: visited 4 times

So is Australia overused? :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on August 27, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
Well I BELIEVE that the head-shaving is overused
Head-shaving: done 3 times
Australia: visited 4 times

So is Australia overused? :lol:

Certainly not. China has been visited 13 times, that is overused NOT AUSTRALIA! China was also visited LAST season, while Australia was last visited 10 seasons ago! The FF head-shaving is boring, when you have much other Fast Forwards, u can use again. Hope that answers your question
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARmap on August 27, 2016, 08:27:32 PM
Well I BELIEVE that the Australia is overused :)

Still not as overused as LA  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on August 27, 2016, 08:31:10 PM
Well I BELIEVE that the Australia is overused :)

Still not as overused as LA  :funny:

Haha, that's true
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on August 28, 2016, 08:16:33 AM


Not relevant - a very good source informed me that Dan and Andrew were slated to be on UB but backed out at the last minute. Thoughts on how they would do/who they would replace?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on August 28, 2016, 03:45:42 PM


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Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RachelLeVega on September 05, 2016, 08:00:26 AM


Not relevant - a very good source informed me that Dan and Andrew were slated to be on UB but backed out at the last minute. Thoughts on how they would do/who they would replace?
They would have most likely replaced Mel & Mike. What a significant amount of TAR14 teams that season. :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on September 26, 2016, 11:36:33 PM


Not relevant - a very good source informed me that Dan and Andrew were slated to be on UB but backed out at the last minute. Thoughts on how they would do/who they would replace?
They would have most likely replaced Mel & Mike. What a significant amount of TAR14 teams that season. :lol:

TAR14 is a horrendous season but for some odd reasons, it is well-liked by production which is why it has almost half of the cast in S18. It was the reboot season for TAR and where the producers believe the history of the show started.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on September 26, 2016, 11:45:10 PM
Nah TAR14 teams got featured because of a little thing called Jodi Wincheski joining production as a Casting Director.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on September 26, 2016, 11:48:35 PM
Nah TAR14 teams got featured because of a little thing called Jodi Wincheski joining production as a Casting Director.

That certainly didn't hurt, but Bertram was defending vigorously when the returnees were announced for S18
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on November 15, 2016, 02:13:20 AM
I dunno where else to post this.

Watching the penultimate episode of TAR17 tonight. When Brook & Claire go to the hotel to book flights, they talk to a receptionist who has her face blurred...except in one shot where it's not blurred and clearly visible.

Oops?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: fossil-racer on November 26, 2016, 09:07:35 PM
Kind of missing TAR
I'm used to it airing twice a year.

My first season was 17 and I loved that season. It was the season that got me hooked.
Who could forget that watermelon moment? :funny:
I honestly thought that leg was for the finals when I first saw it so, when I played the first episode of TAR 17, I was surprised that happened. :funny:
Brooke and Claire was everything.

Season 20 (episode 9) was the first season I watched while it aired.
Then I binged Season 4-19.  :funny: Couldn't finish 1-3 until later and 8/10. I think I skipped some legs here and there.

Season 21 was the first season I watched from beginning to end while it aired.
Then, I had the most random thought while watching with others- look up spoilers/previews for TAR 22  :funny:

After 22, the show became my favorite. After 24, it dropped below Survivor. :funny:

TAR 23 was my first season following the race live (and I love spoilers now :funny:)
My friends followed along too since they were fans and didn't know the race had live sightings :funny:

That's my TAR memory lane. lol
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on November 26, 2016, 10:25:26 PM
My memory lane now:

I've watched S1-6 on UTube, throughout this year

I started to watch TAR season 17 on YouTube. Gotta love the watermelon moment (My Sciene teacher show it to us, earlier in the year  :funny:)

I've only seen the first 3 eps of TAR 18 (Australia, Australia and Japan. Really need to see more)

Only also seen the first eps of TAR19  :(

Seen Leg 3, 7, 9 and 11 of TAR20 (Paraguay, Tanzania, India and Japan)

Saw EP 1, 7, 8, 10, 11 and 12, of TAR 21(China, Russia, Russia, Spain and USA)

TAR 22 IS MY FAVORUITE SEASON EVER! Seen every leg

I have watched Legs 1-5 (Chile, Chile, Portugal, Norway, Poland) and Legs 7 and 11 (UAE and Japan), of TAR 23

TAR 24 was weird. Seen every leg up to Leg 9 (Switzerland) and then Leg 11 and 12 (Wales and the USA). I actually liked this season, apart from the Sri Lankan legs (yuck)

I watched the first 3 episodes of TAR25 when it aired on Aussie TV, but then, for some reason, I lost interest in the show.

TAR26, I saw Leg 1 (Japan) and Leg 5 (Germany) on TV.

I haven't seen ANY episodes for TAR27, expect for the last 5 minutes, on NYE last year.

Haven't seen TAR28  :(

Pumped for for TAR29 and 30!  :cheer:

(I have also seen TAR Canada 1 and parts of 2, TAR Asia 1 and all of the Australian versions)

That's it for me! Can't wait to see what others have to say!  :)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Leafsfan on November 26, 2016, 11:32:00 PM
Sorry but you clearly have some bad taste.

SL 2 is widely acclaimed by most here as one of the best legs of TAR24

 :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on November 27, 2016, 12:01:46 AM
Sorry but you clearly have some bad taste.

SL 2 is widely acclaimed by most here as one of the best legs of TAR24

 :groan:

Yes I know! I actually liked TAR24...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on November 28, 2016, 09:19:35 AM
I like TAR 24 only because of having Caroline & Jennifer in it
The leg structure was terrible
Everyone still remember country singers lost because of pulling a clue 4 seconds behind Dave
That is the most stupid siutation in TAR
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on November 28, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
I like TAR 24 only because of having Caroline & Jennifer in it

Oh yes. Would go forget Caroline and Jennifer  :colors
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2016, 11:22:23 PM
Well, I WON'T go forget them. ???



Oh yes. Would go forget Caroline and Jennifer  :colors
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on November 29, 2016, 01:22:48 AM
Well, I WON'T go forget them. ???



Oh yes. Would go forget Caroline and Jennifer  :colors

Whoops  :funny: :groan: :snicker:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on November 29, 2016, 04:06:20 PM
I still like that season.

And its winners.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on November 29, 2016, 10:16:24 PM
I still like that season.

And its winners.

TAR 24?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on December 03, 2016, 12:45:30 AM
TAR 24 aka fake All-Stars was the worst season of any iteration. It was lazy work by production at all ends - casting, tasks, & countries. Zero effort put in. It's the main reason why so many fans left the show.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on December 03, 2016, 08:35:11 AM
TAR 24 aka fake All-Stars was the worst season of any iteration. It was lazy work by production at all ends - casting, tasks, & countries. Zero effort put in. It's the main reason why so many fans left the show.

You can't say production put zero effort it, that's too far. We were meant to visit Australia & The Philippines
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on December 03, 2016, 12:42:38 PM
We were meant to visit Australia & The Philippines

Hmmm. source please? I am not sure this was fact vs spec.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on December 03, 2016, 02:33:51 PM
I still like that season.

And its winners.

TAR 24?

Yes.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on December 03, 2016, 04:03:14 PM
We were meant to visit Australia & The Philippines

Hmmm. source please? I am not sure this was fact vs spec.

Either I've gone nuts or I just misread things. I swear I've seen facts that this was true. I'll keep my mouth shut next time  :funny: :hides
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on December 03, 2016, 05:43:56 PM
We were meant to visit Australia & The Philippines

Hmmm. source please? I am not sure this was fact vs spec.

Either I've gone nuts or I just misread things. I swear I've seen facts that this was true. I'll keep my mouth shut next time  :funny: :hides

Serious question, I can't remember. :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Leafsfan on December 03, 2016, 06:13:20 PM
It was speculated that Melbourne was going to be visited, but someone leaked the info prior hand, and thus the leg was moved elsewhere.

As for the Philippines, BVM had an interview where he said they moved a leg because of weather, and at that time we believed it was the flooding there (nothing concrete though!)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on December 03, 2016, 07:04:14 PM
It was speculated that Melbourne was going to be visited, but someone leaked the info prior hand, and thus the leg was moved elsewhere.
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Who did that? That is just horrible that I have found that out. My home city may now NEVER be visited now.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ornaciawasrobbed on December 23, 2016, 06:08:50 AM
I honestly think TAR24 was the beginning of the end. The whole route was really weird, most people were unhappy about 3 time returnee teams, none of it seemed particularly difficult. All-Stars should have the difficulty ramped up, instead it was like "find a shop" "count some steps but not really, just get told the answer" "shave a balloon in 60 seconds""jump on a board for a minute or two and get a clue" ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Alenaveda on December 23, 2016, 12:40:52 PM
 :hithere:    ornaciawasrobbed,  :welcome2: to the R.F.F.!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on December 24, 2016, 01:15:21 AM
An awful decision by production to ban all team interactions after checking-in that turned-off a lot of long-time fans. This caused more contrived fighting and ugly interactions between teams. If two teams disliked each other (eg. Joe & Bill vs everyone, Tara & Will vs Chris & Alex), it happened naturally and it was a story-arc. Now, it's just forced by producers. TAR used to be one of the few RTV shows to not give in and it's unfortunate that they did.

'Amazing Race' Producers Leave a Lot Up to Fate'
 
June 18, 2014 | 06:00AM PT  by Andrew Bloomenthal

The producers is constantly implementing changes to keep the production fresh.

For one thing, teams are now kept apart during the mandatory 12-hour rest periods between legs. Not only does this keep players in the dark as to the finishing order of the other teams in the previous leg, but it prevents them from bonding, thereby ensuring they remain cutthroat and competitive.

 
http://variety.com/2014/tv/awards/amazing-race-producers-leave-a-lot-up-to-fate-1201221435/ (http://variety.com/2014/tv/awards/amazing-race-producers-leave-a-lot-up-to-fate-1201221435/)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on December 24, 2016, 04:53:33 AM
How is it forced either way? I don't understand your point, TheBayAreaGuy.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on December 24, 2016, 04:52:56 PM
Contrived might be a better description. The point being is producers wanted more fights and ugliness to occur instantaneously and immediately, sometimes rising to trashiness.

How is it forced either way? I don't understand your point, TheBayAreaGuy.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ovalorange on December 25, 2016, 03:58:37 AM
I thought the reason they kept the teams separate during pitstops was because they never got sports bra gate on camera in TAR 13. So production decided that in the future any and all team interactions needed to be captured on film, and therefore required teams to be separated at pitstops. I think I remember this being a new thing for TAR14, maybe someone can correct me if im wrong.

This recap (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-amazing-race/the-amazing-race-the-mystery-o-23603.aspx) might help jog everyone's memory over why sports bra gate was such an issue; the storyline for the Starr vs Kelly/Christy feud seemed to come from nowhere and the viewers were only informed about it from their confessionals.

But really if anything, I think separating the teams makes all the fights more transparent because we get to see it all play out in front of the cameras.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on December 25, 2016, 04:08:44 AM
In the past 3 seasons they haven't been separated.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: James_Earl on December 25, 2016, 04:25:13 PM
In the past 3 seasons they haven't been separated.

That's not true. We are kept away from each other during pit stops except for very special exceptions that they record.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on December 25, 2016, 06:58:09 PM
That's not true. We are kept away from each other during pit stops except for very special exceptions that they record.

Hi James, did u find this annoying? I mean, did u feel like you couldn't 'plan' ahead for the next leg?
BTW, I LOVED how u and your mum raced! It was great, so well done!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on December 26, 2016, 02:52:53 AM
That was partially the reason but they're always been events that took place off-camera and inserted into the storyline.

The bigger explanation was production upset that the U-Turns went completely unused during S13 (one aired, one unaired) while in S12 it was hesitantly used and they thought the teams were too friendly even though it was not the case. 

I thought the reason they kept the teams separate during pitstops was because they never got sports bra gate on camera in TAR 13. So production decided that in the future any and all team interactions needed to be captured on film, and therefore required teams to be separated at pitstops. I think I remember this being a new thing for TAR14, maybe someone can correct me if im wrong.

This recap (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-amazing-race/the-amazing-race-the-mystery-o-23603.aspx) might help jog everyone's memory over why sports bra gate was such an issue; the storyline for the Starr vs Kelly/Christy feud seemed to come from nowhere and the viewers were only informed about it from their confessionals.

But really if anything, I think separating the teams makes all the fights more transparent because we get to see it all play out in front of the cameras.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on December 26, 2016, 02:55:04 AM
You're thinking of S26 when they allowed some of it.

In the past 3 seasons they haven't been separated.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on December 26, 2016, 04:50:24 PM
I think 26 prevented it for the most part, with 3 (maybe?) exceptions-
1. The Pit Stop of leg 1 where they forced everyone into an office building to find a ~*love connection*~
2. The overnight in Nice which occurred during the leg, and
3. Both Namibia legs; Namibia 1 had teams legitimately camp out because Spitzkoppe has no hotels (<3) and Namibia 2 ended on Thanksgiving an I thiiiink sometimes production springs for what could be conceived as a dinner (I believe AS had one in Poland?)

28 had a lot of team interactions occur during the leg as well (Mexico City waiting for departure times, Geneva at the chocolateur, Armenia waiting for the sabre dance, Bali waiting for depparture times, etc) so I think that may be the new norm.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TheBayAreaGuy on December 30, 2016, 10:09:42 PM
Those are exceptions (& limited anyway) including in S28.

In the Amazing Race panel at 2016 RTX during the summer, Joslyn told the audience that no interactions between teams were allowed when cameras were turned-off.

I think 26 prevented it for the most part, with 3 (maybe?) exceptions-
1. The Pit Stop of leg 1 where they forced everyone into an office building to find a ~*love connection*~
2. The overnight in Nice which occurred during the leg, and
3. Both Namibia legs; Namibia 1 had teams legitimately camp out because Spitzkoppe has no hotels (<3) and Namibia 2 ended on Thanksgiving an I thiiiink sometimes production springs for what could be conceived as a dinner (I believe AS had one in Poland?)

28 had a lot of team interactions occur during the leg as well (Mexico City waiting for departure times, Geneva at the chocolateur, Armenia waiting for the sabre dance, Bali waiting for depparture times, etc) so I think that may be the new norm.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on December 31, 2016, 04:08:36 AM
Those are exceptions (& limited anyway) including in S28.

In the Amazing Race panel at 2016 RTX during the summer, Joslyn told the audience that no interactions between teams were allowed when cameras were turned-off.

I think 26 prevented it for the most part, with 3 (maybe?) exceptions-
1. The Pit Stop of leg 1 where they forced everyone into an office building to find a ~*love connection*~
2. The overnight in Nice which occurred during the leg, and
3. Both Namibia legs; Namibia 1 had teams legitimately camp out because Spitzkoppe has no hotels (<3) and Namibia 2 ended on Thanksgiving an I thiiiink sometimes production springs for what could be conceived as a dinner (I believe AS had one in Poland?)

28 had a lot of team interactions occur during the leg as well (Mexico City waiting for departure times, Geneva at the chocolateur, Armenia waiting for the sabre dance, Bali waiting for depparture times, etc) so I think that may be the new norm.

All of the times he listed were during the leg. So interaction would most probably be aloud.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on January 02, 2017, 04:36:14 PM
I randomly popped in my TAR5 DVD the other day and watched Legs 5-9 (Egypt, Tanzania, Kenya, Dubai, India).
And I was reminded of how amazing season 5 really is. Been  a while since I'd actually watched these episodes and they were just as enjoyable now as they've always been.  So many interesting stories, rivalries (obviously) and just good tasks on good Legs.  The Dubai Leg though with basically only 1/3 of the episode on actual Racing and 2/3 of it on all the drama concerning possibly getting ripped off by taxis.  Insane!  So good.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 02, 2017, 06:05:44 PM
I randomly popped in my TAR5 DVD the other day and watched Legs 5-9 (Egypt, Tanzania, Kenya, Dubai, India).
And I was reminded of how amazing season 5 really is. Been  a while since I'd actually watched these episodes and they were just as enjoyable now as they've always been.  So many interesting stories, rivalries (obviously) and just good tasks on good Legs.  The Dubai Leg though with basically only 1/3 of the episode on actual Racing and 2/3 of it on all the drama concerning possibly getting ripped off by taxis.  Insane!  So good.

Charla and Mirna VERSUES everyone! Oh yeah, the Dubai leg would have to be one of my all-time fav legs. And the fligh drama from Eygpt.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ornaciawasrobbed on January 02, 2017, 10:12:19 PM
Charla and Mirna VERSUES everyone!

I'm not a fan of three-peater teams but if I had to choose one I'd choose Charla and Mirna for the shenanigans.

"LEVEL FIVE CHARLA LEVEL FIIIIIIIVEEEE"
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on January 03, 2017, 04:20:41 AM
Charla and Mirna VERSUES everyone!

I'm not a fan of three-peater teams but if I had to choose one I'd choose Charla and Mirna for the shenanigans.

"LEVEL FIVE CHARLA LEVEL FIIIIIIIVEEEE"
NO The new fans don't know who they are! So they are not eligible to run the race again  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on January 03, 2017, 04:21:41 AM
Ngll I'd kill to see Dustin & Kandace again.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on January 03, 2017, 04:54:15 AM
When I first watched TAR 10 and 11, I felt like that Dustin & Kandice were in their 20s and now it feels like they're now in 40s even though they're now in 30s... Man I feel old, despite 2005 and 2006 felt like was just four years ago!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jimmer on January 03, 2017, 02:42:23 PM
Charla and Mirna VERSUES everyone!

I'm not a fan of three-peater teams but if I had to choose one I'd choose Charla and Mirna for the shenanigans.

"LEVEL FIVE CHARLA LEVEL FIIIIIIIVEEEE"
NO The new fans don't know who they are! So they are not eligible to run the race again  :funny:

I feel like the whole idea that new fans don't know who they are is kind of a weak argument on why teams early on should not return. I feel like the Amazing Race fan base has a lot of loyal fans who would love to see old racers. Especially with ratings dropping in recent seasons, the gimmicks that the race puts on might actually be turning away old and new fans alike. By bringing in old racers, it might bring back old viewers.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARUSAFan on January 03, 2017, 09:20:05 PM
I'd love to see Charla & Mirna and Dustin & Kandice race again
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 03, 2017, 10:08:23 PM
I'd love to see Charla & Mirna and Dustin & Kandice race again

So would I! To join them, Colin and Christie, Tara and Wil, John and Victoria and Kevin and Drew. This would be the Ulimate season!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on January 03, 2017, 11:56:15 PM
I'd love to see Charla & Mirna and Dustin & Kandice race again

So would I! To join them, Colin and Christie, Tara and Wil, John and Victoria and Kevin and Drew. This would be the Ulimate season!

Jonathan & Victoria? WTF? BIG no.  :hand:  :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 04, 2017, 12:07:59 AM
I'd love to see Charla & Mirna and Dustin & Kandice race again

So would I! To join them, Colin and Christie, Tara and Wil, John and Victoria and Kevin and Drew. This would be the Ulimate season!

Jonathan & Victoria? WTF? BIG no.  :hand:  :groan:

I liked watching them argue! However, when he shoved her was purely disgusting!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on January 04, 2017, 12:13:27 AM
I'd love to see Charla & Mirna and Dustin & Kandice race again

So would I! To join them, Colin and Christie, Tara and Wil, John and Victoria and Kevin and Drew. This would be the Ulimate season!

Jonathan & Victoria? WTF? BIG no.  :hand:  :groan:

I liked watching them argue! However, when he shoved her was purely disgusting!

So the shove is the only gross thing and Jonathan letting Victoria bleed in Africa and not helping her even when Kendra screamed at him to help her wasn't? What a vile team.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on January 04, 2017, 05:26:17 AM
I don't want to see Jonathan & Victoria ever again. The only thing I'd like to know is if they have finally broken up.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on January 04, 2017, 05:30:09 AM
I don't want to see Jonathan & Victoria ever again. The only thing I'd like to know is if they have finally broken up.

They're already divorced years ago, with one children (girl) in hands of Jonathan...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ornaciawasrobbed on January 05, 2017, 07:51:39 AM
Charla and Mirna VERSUES everyone!

I'm not a fan of three-peater teams but if I had to choose one I'd choose Charla and Mirna for the shenanigans.

"LEVEL FIVE CHARLA LEVEL FIIIIIIIVEEEE"
NO The new fans don't know who they are! So they are not eligible to run the race again  :funny:

I feel like the whole idea that new fans don't know who they are is kind of a weak argument on why teams early on should not return. I feel like the Amazing Race fan base has a lot of loyal fans who would love to see old racers. Especially with ratings dropping in recent seasons, the gimmicks that the race puts on might actually be turning away old and new fans alike. By bringing in old racers, it might bring back old viewers.

New fans "Not knowing who they are" being unacceptable says that "you need to know these teams in order to watch and understand this season". It's a ridiculous excuse when you look at the mess that was season 24, particularly the editing and realise you didn't need to know any of the teams to "get" that season.

Three-peaters
-The Cowboys: Their storyline this season is "We didn't win and also we are cowboys". If you are a fan who followed the drama off the race then their storyline was "We were beaten by a sneaky gay guy in season 16 and a sneaky lesbian in season 18, I mean actually we got beat fair and square, but CBS won't air our opinion on LGBT people  but anyways we need to win this time". But on the actual show we learn nothing new about them.
-The Globetrotters: Did they have a storyline in any of the 3 seasons? Big Easy is bad at mental puzzles and sometimes we do some tricks with items and they play our theme song over the footage is the most we got out of them. I like them but they did not need to come back.
-Margie and Luke: Out of the 3 returning three-peaters, Margie and Luke are the only ones who's storyline progresses from the past 2 seasons in that they cover Luke's ***uality in a throwaway 30 second clip. It's the only new thing we learn about them because other than that it's "Margie can run fast for an 'older' lady and Luke still has tantrums during tasks" which you can learn just by watching this season anyways.

The other teams
-Natalie and Nadiya: They didn't have a storyline this season. I think they tried to say "look, they are fighting which is definitely what took them out last time", but actually it was a poorly designed leg with a couple luck challenges and a linear roadblock so it wasn't that they fought, it was that the race was dull.
-Mark and Mallory: Well they weren't even a team before so you didn't need to know their history, it's covered in the first episode. "Bopper can't race so I must win for him" is it.
-Joey and Meghan: You need to know that they were on the race before. This time they are less happy because they realised leg 1 that this course sucks. You may want to compare how they were not humble to how thankful they were before but it's not a necessity. Actual storyline wise they could be newcomers.
-Jessica and John: You need to know that they got eliminated with an express pass in hand. OR you would need to know that, if they won the express pass this season. They did not so they could be newcomers.
-Leo and Jamal: You need to know that they lost. Yeah that's covered in ep 1. The other teams don't know that they were considered sneaky on their season so it's not like they need to act any differently this season???
-Brendon and Rachel: They act slightly better than the first time they were on though no prior knowledge is necessary still have the same moments as before.
-Caroline and Jennifer: They ALMOST have a storyline that links back to their season when Meghan spills the T in an interview during leg 2 but then Meghan gets eliminated the next leg and Caroline and Jennifer just kind of...exist. Somehow. To 2nd place. While singing their song about winning. Which they don't. If they were a brand new team it would have changed nothing.
-Dave and Connor: Of all the teams this season this is probably the only one you need to "know" BUT then again you don't as they spend 12 legs talking about everything that they already covered on their first season.
Dave walks: "Ohhh hope my achilles holds up ;)"
Dave sits: "Oh now I don't have to worry about my achilles ;)"
Connor does a roadblock: "Glad I'm doing this as if you don't know already, we got eliminated in our first season because of my dad's achilles".
Dave gets U-Turned: "BUT ACHILLES, CANCER, I'M OLD, HOW DARE."
So their entire characterisation is pretty much covered again (to the point no other team has any story).

Sorry about the rant, but to sum up, you could bring back ANY TEAM from any of the previous 28 seasons and the "new fans" would survive because most of the teams are given a shallow 2 dimensional edit anyways. And with that I start my official petition to bring back Matt and Ana from season 1.
Please sign.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Jimmer on January 05, 2017, 10:00:35 AM
Charla and Mirna VERSUES everyone!

I'm not a fan of three-peater teams but if I had to choose one I'd choose Charla and Mirna for the shenanigans.

"LEVEL FIVE CHARLA LEVEL FIIIIIIIVEEEE"
NO The new fans don't know who they are! So they are not eligible to run the race again  :funny:

I feel like the whole idea that new fans don't know who they are is kind of a weak argument on why teams early on should not return. I feel like the Amazing Race fan base has a lot of loyal fans who would love to see old racers. Especially with ratings dropping in recent seasons, the gimmicks that the race puts on might actually be turning away old and new fans alike. By bringing in old racers, it might bring back old viewers.

New fans "Not knowing who they are" being unacceptable says that "you need to know these teams in order to watch and understand this season". It's a ridiculous excuse when you look at the mess that was season 24, particularly the editing and realise you didn't need to know any of the teams to "get" that season.

I was arguing that you could bring back any team and ratings would be fine/good :lol: :tup:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 05, 2017, 05:28:44 PM
 I would to see SO many teams from the ancient' seasons back, its not funny. So, I'm not going to name them all.

However, from the list ornaciawasrobbed provided, I would like to see these teams as follows:
Margie and Luke
Joey and Meghan
Bopper and Gary (if Mark and Mallory raced together, why can't Bopper and Garry lolz  :sera:)
Brendon and Rachel
Other earlier teams

These teams (I think) are entertaining and will get views up higher, which means more seasons of TAR!

Feel free to disagree with me   :)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on January 05, 2017, 05:51:09 PM
You literally just named all recent teams and contradicted yourself :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 05, 2017, 06:03:34 PM
You literally just named all recent teams and contradicted yourself :lol:

What I meant was, there are just so many teams from ancient seasons I would like to see, I can't name them all, so that's why I named recent teams.
Understand?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on January 05, 2017, 10:33:16 PM
teams from ancient seasons


:faint:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 06, 2017, 02:02:09 AM
teams from ancient seasons


:faint:

I mean past seasons
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: ornaciawasrobbed on January 06, 2017, 02:42:26 AM
I was arguing that you could bring back any team and ratings would be fine/good :lol: :tup:

Oh yeah, I know. I was just like "you right, you so right, and let me elaborate with a thesis on why you so right." Ma bad.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on January 17, 2017, 01:54:49 AM
After TAR22, they changed the appearance of the Speed Bump sign, and I think I may have stumbled onto why...

Mona & Beth broke the old one. XD

When they rip off the clue envelope, they take a big chunk of the sign with it.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on January 17, 2017, 10:36:38 AM
After TAR22, they changed the appearance of the Speed Bump sign, and I think I may have stumbled onto why...

Mona & Beth broke the old one. XD

When they rip off the clue envelope, they take a big chunk of the sign with it.

*Tries to find the episode* XD
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on January 24, 2017, 04:02:50 AM
I just noticed something else strange. In the TAR23 Gdansk leg, teams had to keep wearing their costumes after the Detour.

The clue says (and you can see this on-screen), "If you Posed, carry your trident with you and wear your beard. Remove your wig."

Yet, every team that continued with the 'Pose' costume did the opposite. They left their beards behind and kept wearing the wig.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 08, 2017, 08:09:46 AM
Feels like aaaaaaages since I've been on here!  :waves:

So decided I'd rewatch UB to get ready for S29, and now it's really got me in the mood to watch "The Season That Shan't Be Named"  :peek  Only watched it once when it first aired, so I'm really hoping a second viewing might actually do it justice.  ???

I mean, surely it CAN'T be as bad as I remember .......................................... Can it??  :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on February 08, 2017, 01:58:33 PM
Welcome back NMC!

I really enjoyed S18. Not so much on S24, but everyone I think here hated it (or, most of them anyway!) I hope your opinion changes!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 08, 2017, 05:20:28 PM
Welcome back NMC!

I really enjoyed S18. Not so much on S24, but everyone I think here hated it (or, most of them anyway!) I hope your opinion changes!

Thanks for the warm welcome back BourkieBoy!  :<3

So... Eh... Yeeeaaah.... Just watched Leg 1 again, and I don't know what to make of it?
I do like most of the teams, and tried to forget everything I hated about it, and start over, but I'm already sick of Rachel!  :groan:

And the editing!  (:;)  It totally skips CaroJen, and JJ doing the RB, and misses half the teams finish the Start Line task, which I still feel should've held some kind of penalty for the last team.
The tasks....... Find a shop, pick a bubble, do a spin, Pitstop!  :gaah:  Awful Leg design! This is All Stars!!!

I'm debating whether to even continue on, but I remember Leg 2 was actually pretty good, even though I'm definitely still bitter over Mark & Mallorys elimination.  :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 08, 2017, 06:52:46 PM
I still like it.

Also I'm sure those cut parts would've been shown on air, had Bopper not had his medical scare and taken up more airtime.

Let me break it down how I see it: The first leg is indeed lackluster in design. It's not BAD, but it's also not good. But then again...

Leg 1 in TAR11? Pick up a clue, get a departure time, find a park and play with a horse for a little bit. Maybe it's a trend of All-Stars races? lol!

Anyway, the second leg was better, if marred by Mark & Mallory drama. Then the third and fourth legs were pretty terrible. However, we know that both of those legs were last-minute replacement legs. It wasn't entirely the producers' faults, and it's clear in some areas that they had to really rush to get a coherent leg together in time.

Legs after that get a lot better. In fact, the only issue I have beyond that is that they spend two legs in a country four times in a row. Just a nitpick really.

It's funny you bring this up now, because I have been rewatching TAR24 right now as well. I'm just about to hit the Switzerland leg. Over the past few months I've been rewatching old seasons in order to compile Clue-by-Clue leaderboards for our Wiki, and just now got to TAR24.

Check them out! (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_24_Leg_2) They're so awesome! (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_23_Leg_4)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 09, 2017, 05:52:55 AM
You've done an outstanding job on the Wiki, GB.  :conf:

I forgot about TAR11 - But your right, it had a very poor first Leg, but hit its stride by Leg 2 / 3.

It's just a pity it was an All-Star Season that suffered the fate of production mishaps, such as the rescheduling of Legs, etc..

Staying in a country for 2 Legs really bugs me too, but I guess, with all the other problems it had, this is one of the lesser things wrong with the Season, IMO.

I'll stick it out, and watch a few more Legs, but the order of Elimination is pretty dire as well.  :groan:
Guess one silver lining is I forgot how much I LOVED Mark & Mallory, although I remember Mark was almost universally hated after Leg 2.  :escape
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 09, 2017, 03:40:17 PM
He interviewed later that he would have lost his winter clothes, his glasses, and his contact lenses with the backpack. Not being able to see or read things would've been a pretty big obstacle for him, especially if he ended up with the Roadblocks in Rome or Wales.

I also actually like this season's Switzerland leg when compared with its nearly identical predecessor in Season 22. 22's had way too much train travel and not much substance in between. 24's had a few puzzling clues, a brain teaser at the auto museum, and no trains except for the beginning. (Plus a spectacular Pit Stop location)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 10, 2017, 06:13:57 AM
He interviewed later that he would have lost his winter clothes, his glasses, and his contact lenses with the backpack. Not being able to see or read things would've been a pretty big obstacle for him, especially if he ended up with the Roadblocks in Rome or Wales.

I also actually like this season's Switzerland leg when compared with its nearly identical predecessor in Season 22. 22's had way too much train travel and not much substance in between. 24's had a few puzzling clues, a brain teaser at the auto museum, and no trains except for the beginning. (Plus a spectacular Pit Stop location)

I remember he also said that the bag was given to him by Dave & Rachel, and he didn't want to leave it behind, which I always thought was kinda silly, because DaveChel strike me as a team that would've definitely left it behind had it been the other way about.  ???
But at least he clears up why he was so adamant about getting it back, if his glasses, etc, were in it.
I remember cussing that S22 Leg to hell with their trains, I still blame the trains for Chuck & Wynonas downfall.  (:;)
Death by too many trains!  :torche

Edit - Finally got round to rewatching Leg 2, and it's actually a great Leg, despite Backpack Gate.  It felt like everyone had equal screen time, and no one was invisible.  Mark & Mall shooting out in front is fantastic, and their elimination is one of the most heartfelt there's ever been.  It was a great send off with all the other teams there as well.
I'm still extremely upset over their elimination though.  :pity :'(  They could've been 1st GODAMMIT!!! :lol:  :funny:  I would have absolutely no problem with Mark & Bopper being asked back again.

The biggest WTF moment of the Leg was the Cowboys giving away the EP to CaroJen!  :groan:  Guess they knew it would be burned, and not have to worry about it for the rest of the race.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 10, 2017, 03:32:32 PM
THEY later interviewed that, if at all possible, they were only going to give it away to someone they knew would immediately use it. That was their plan.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 11, 2017, 12:54:23 AM
He interviewed later that he would have lost his winter clothes, his glasses, and his contact lenses with the backpack. Not being able to see or read things would've been a pretty big obstacle for him, especially if he ended up with the Roadblocks in Rome or Wales.

I also actually like this season's Switzerland leg when compared with its nearly identical predecessor in Season 22. 22's had way too much train travel and not much substance in between. 24's had a few puzzling clues, a brain teaser at the auto museum, and no trains except for the beginning. (Plus a spectacular Pit Stop location)

I remember he also said that the bag was given to him by Dave & Rachel, and he didn't want to leave it behind, which I always thought was kinda silly, because DaveChel strike me as a team that would've definitely left it behind had it been the other way about.  ???
But at least he clears up why he was so adamant about getting it back, if his glasses, etc, were in it.
I remember cussing that S22 Leg to hell with their trains, I still blame the trains for Chuck & Wynonas downfall.  (:;)
Death by too many trains!  :torche

Edit - Finally got round to rewatching Leg 2, and it's actually a great Leg, despite Backpack Gate.  It felt like everyone had equal screen time, and no one was invisible.  Mark & Mall shooting out in front is fantastic, and their elimination is one of the most heartfelt there's ever been.  It was a great send off with all the other teams there as well.
I'm still extremely upset over their elimination though.  :pity :'(  They could've been 1st GODAMMIT!!! :lol:  :funny:  I would have absolutely no problem with Mark & Bopper being asked back again.

The biggest WTF moment of the Leg was the Cowboys giving away the EP to CaroJen!  :groan:  Guess they knew it would be burned, and not have to worry about it for the rest of the race.
Begging for the EP is the best and smartest move done by CaroJen throughout their race career  :bunny
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 12, 2017, 01:45:01 AM
Just finished up TAR24 and I remembered the only other thing I didn't like about the season.

That David Copperfield Roadblock...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 13, 2017, 04:23:46 AM
Oh dear... THIS (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_25_Leg_1) leg wasn't very kind to the clue-by-clue leaderboards...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2017, 11:25:12 AM
Oh dear... THIS (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_25_Leg_1) leg wasn't very kind to the clue-by-clue leaderboards...

What do you mean? One of my favorite legs ever since I got to see the first half live...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on February 13, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
Oh dear... THIS (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_25_Leg_1) leg wasn't very kind to the clue-by-clue leaderboards...

What do you mean? One of my favorite legs ever since I got to see the first half live...

He means the new clue by clue race order. You didn't see all the teams get their clues so most of it was unknown.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 13, 2017, 04:00:10 PM
Yeah, tons of question marks. There have been a few question marks before-hand, like with the TAR24 starting line task, but this one left out a lot.

In the grand scheme of things, none of it was important, per se, but it does end up making the leaderboard look a little ugly.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: SamualDude on February 16, 2017, 02:33:20 PM
With the revelation of the new continent Zealandia meaning that New Zealand is on a seperate continent than Australia can it be said retrospectively that seasons such as season 2 visited 6 continents?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 16, 2017, 07:48:03 PM
The what of the what now?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2017, 08:45:44 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/travel/zealandia-new-continent-discovered/
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on February 16, 2017, 10:22:39 PM
New Zealand's a continent???? Whaaatyttt???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: SamualDude on February 17, 2017, 01:12:51 AM
New Zealand's a continent???? Whaaatyttt???

Not quite. It turns out there is a continent which New Caledonia and New Zealand sit on which is separate from the continent Australia sits on.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 17, 2017, 03:03:26 AM
Ehhh...I doubt this will end up joining the "classic" 7 continents. Antarctica isn't really a continent after all, but a fractured archipelago covered by ice.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on February 17, 2017, 05:30:21 PM
Whaaaaaaaaat, this sounds so bizarre :funny:
It will take some time before people actually start applying this knowledge in their day-to-day lives. Or maybe the theory will still get debunked.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 19, 2017, 01:45:41 PM
Just finished up TAR24 and I remembered the only other thing I didn't like about the season.

That David Copperfield Roadblock...

Was on vacation for the past week, so only getting back round to continuing 24 now.  Binged Legs 4 - 9 today, and it really does make for much better viewing whilst being binged.  My perception so far has been pretty positive.  :escape  .... And I despised this Season before I started re-watching it. :iok

All I remember people complaining about was Dave whining, all the Cancer talk, and the Accidental Alliance.  But after Leg 9, there's still been no talk of Cancer, and Dave's whining, though annoying, really isn't as bad as I remembered.  So all in all, I've been pretty happy.   :peek

There are still loads of things I don't like though - So many tasks involving sound, which would've had a great impact on Luke & Margie had they got further.  Teams helping out EVERY other team.  :groan:  Like GB said previously in the thread, 2 Legs in the same country FOUR times in a row!  AND THE RB COUNT!!!  :gaah:  - Did they ever address that?  I don't recall?  ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 19, 2017, 02:03:48 PM
Yes. Because it would have been impossible for Luke to do the Roadblock in Wales, for this season only they said that no-one could do more than six Roadblocks before the 11th leg, instead of before the 12th leg. That way, Luke wouldn't have been stuck with the pronunciation task.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 19, 2017, 04:22:22 PM
Yes. Because it would have been impossible for Luke to do the Roadblock in Wales, for this season only they said that no-one could do more than six Roadblocks before the 11th leg, instead of before the 12th leg. That way, Luke wouldn't have been stuck with the pronunciation task.

That actually makes so much sense.  :o  Then I have absolutely no problem with Connor having done more RB's then Dave now.  :lol:

Finished the Season there, and as much of the minority I'm gonna be in, I really enjoyed it.  Sure it has a lot of things wrong with it, but overall, I wouldn't class it any lower than some other Seasons I can think off.  It's still the worst of the 3 returnee Seasons, but as I said, I thoroughly enjoyed it.  :hide:
Bring on S29!  :cheer:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on February 20, 2017, 04:15:28 AM
Yes. Because it would have been impossible for Luke to do the Roadblock in Wales, for this season only they said that no-one could do more than six Roadblocks before the 11th leg, instead of before the 12th leg. That way, Luke wouldn't have been stuck with the pronunciation task.

Oh and how on earth was he going to do the final two roadblocks either. If I remember correctly, in Season 14, he couldn't do the second roadblock because of need to understand "visual cues" from the instructors.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 20, 2017, 04:46:46 AM
Yes. Because it would have been impossible for Luke to do the Roadblock in Wales, for this season only they said that no-one could do more than six Roadblocks before the 11th leg, instead of before the 12th leg. That way, Luke wouldn't have been stuck with the pronunciation task.

Oh and how on earth was he going to do the final two roadblocks either. If I remember correctly, in Season 14, he couldn't do the second roadblock because of need to understand "visual cues" from the instructors.

What? Nothing would have stopped him from doing the last two Roadblocks...?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on February 21, 2017, 07:09:01 AM
Yes. Because it would have been impossible for Luke to do the Roadblock in Wales, for this season only they said that no-one could do more than six Roadblocks before the 11th leg, instead of before the 12th leg. That way, Luke wouldn't have been stuck with the pronunciation task.

Oh and how on earth was he going to do the final two roadblocks either. If I remember correctly, in Season 14, he couldn't do the second roadblock because of need to understand "visual cues" from the instructors.

What? Nothing would have stopped him from doing the last two Roadblocks...?

My bad it was the second roadblock. The second roadblock was a tandem jump, and if I remember correctly, there was a similar challenge in Season 14 (the second roadblock, tandem hang-gliding) which he couldn't do because he was deaf and he needed to hear the safety clues from the instructor.
 

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 21, 2017, 04:40:28 PM
I think there's a difference between hang-gliding and skydiving. When you're tandem skydiving, there's not a lot you have to do, but you gotta run and jump and be careful when tandem hang-gliding.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 26, 2017, 05:57:20 AM
Oh boy...

Now I'm watching Season 26 again, and I was just so strongly reminded that the first Detour (Tokyo) is the second-most unbalanced Detour of all time. It is ridiculous how unbalanced that one was.

Learn, memorize and perform a complex, not to mention unusual, dance routine? Or attempt to memorize the names of some drinks and only have to successfully recall one?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on February 26, 2017, 08:13:55 AM
I hope it's 'second most' because the most imbalanced is two legs later?  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 26, 2017, 08:19:47 AM
I hope it's 'second most' because the most imbalanced is two legs later?  :funny:

Oh God... And if I recall, there wasn't even a RB after to kinda balance it out.  :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on February 26, 2017, 09:05:39 AM
The most lopsided detour was Leg 1 of the Amazing Race 1.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on February 26, 2017, 02:17:10 PM
The most lopsided detour was Leg 1 of the Amazing Race 1.

Close. The most unbalanced Detour was Leg 2 of The Amazing Race 1.
Travel like 10 minutes to a nature reserve, filled with very plentiful wildlife of all sorts, receive a list of five animals and photograph just three of them.
...or...
Drive ACROSS THE BORDER to Botswana, spending goodness knows how long in customs, then driving further to reach a rather expansive nature reserve that isn't nearly as plentiful as the above one, and find an elephant...then drive ALL the way back, BACK across the border, through customs AGAIN.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on February 26, 2017, 04:29:55 PM
The most lopsided detour was Leg 1 of the Amazing Race 1.

Close. The most unbalanced Detour was Leg 2 of The Amazing Race 1.
Travel like 10 minutes to a nature reserve, filled with very plentiful wildlife of all sorts, receive a list of five animals and photograph just three of them.
...or...
Drive ACROSS THE BORDER to Botswana, spending goodness knows how long in customs, then driving further to reach a rather expansive nature reserve that isn't nearly as plentiful as the above one, and find an elephant...then drive ALL the way back, BACK across the border, through customs AGAIN.

I meant that detour  :knock:, I think I just mixed the legs up aha.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on February 27, 2017, 12:26:07 AM
Hi everyone!

I am on a mission to watch every Amazing Race season possible (or at least, what I can find!) I am NOT going to watch them in order. At the moment, I have just finished watching Episode 1 of Season 21

At the end of every season, I will put down my thoughts on that season!

I hope you enjoy!

(BTW, this is just going to be like Hysha's 'series' but this will be on The Amazing Race)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on February 27, 2017, 07:25:50 AM
Hi everyone!

I am on a mission to watch every Amazing Race season possible (or at least, what I can find!) I am NOT going to watch them in order. At the moment, I have just finished watching Episode 1 of Season 21

At the end of every season, I will put down my thoughts on that season!

I hope you enjoy!

(BTW, this is just going to be like Hysha's 'series' but this will be on The Amazing Race)

Looking forward to this BourkieBoy, but good luck with S21 - I always found the first few Legs a tough watch.  :zz:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on March 02, 2017, 01:54:07 AM
Oh dear lord...

I'd forgotten how much I cannot stand Hayley...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on March 02, 2017, 01:56:21 AM
Hayley <3333333333333
Blair <333333333333333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on March 02, 2017, 01:58:26 PM
Hayley is the best casting choice to come out of the past ~6 seasons <333
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on March 02, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
The whole 'Captain Obvious' scene made me cringe.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on March 02, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
Yes, that was extremely cringy and funny, just like the entire story arc of Hayley, which is why she was so awesome to watch! :lol:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on March 03, 2017, 01:03:43 AM
Sorry, I guess I'll stop stoking potential fires. As you've seen, I'm slowly working through seasons for Wiki work, and just...

Hayley is one of the reasons TAR26 is my least favourite of all time.

Also, I suppose I'm the kind of person who thinks something can't be both cringy and funny at the same time, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on March 03, 2017, 07:36:17 PM
Yes, that was extremely cringy and funny, just like the entire story arc of Hayley, which is why she was so awesome to watch! :lol:
Hayley is the reason why I love TAR26 :bunny
She constantly bashing Blair is hilarous to watch
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on March 06, 2017, 01:21:19 AM
I just LOVED Hayley!!!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on March 06, 2017, 03:29:05 AM
LOL, I guess I'll just put my 'dislike Hayley' on the shelf next to my 'like Dave & Connor' and be proud of being different? XD
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on March 06, 2017, 04:14:13 AM
LOL, I guess I'll just put my 'dislike Hayley' on the shelf next to my 'like Dave & Connor' and be proud of being different? XD

It's ok. I liked Dave and Connor to
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on March 07, 2017, 01:48:22 AM
I think I need a gif of Matt in his ladyboy outfit when he smiled at the camera...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: elthemagnifico on March 22, 2017, 07:05:42 PM
Ironically, when some said that the premiere of s28 was the one of the best premiere, it was only scored 5.8 on imdb...

While the finale 24 was scored 8 on imdb...

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: toanglobal on March 22, 2017, 09:20:10 PM
The Double Roadblock for Tanner & Josh at leg 9 TAR 27 wasn't a speedbump, but was a handicap which was used in TAR Norway as a penalty for last team in NEL legs
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on March 23, 2017, 10:27:39 AM
Ironically, when some said that the premiere of s28 was the one of the best premiere, it was only scored 5.8 on imdb...

While the finale 24 was scored 8 on imdb...

I always refer to IMDB when looking at episode ratings for TV shows, but I NEVER use it for TAR, coz the scoring for TAR is just all over the place  :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: elthemagnifico on March 23, 2017, 10:35:10 PM
Ironically, when some said that the premiere of s28 was the one of the best premiere, it was only scored 5.8 on imdb...

While the finale 24 was scored 8 on imdb...

I always refer to IMDB when looking at episode ratings for TV shows, but I NEVER use it for TAR, coz the scoring for TAR is just all over the place  :groan:


Yap you're right...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on April 01, 2017, 04:18:50 AM
Tiniest...results table...ever... (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_27_Leg_10)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 02, 2017, 07:05:35 PM
I miss when pre-season confessionals were at the teams' homes or their own spots instead of having them all take place in the same wooded area.  I was watching the Season 17 pre-season interviews for each team and I seriously miss the way they used to format season premieres.  "The 11 teams are..."

I hate the way they introduce teams (this started in Season 26--they just randomly cut to introduce teams while the race is in action), so annoying!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 02, 2017, 07:14:08 PM
I hate the way they introduce teams (this started in Season 26--they just randomly cut to introduce teams while the race is in action), so annoying!

Yeah :/

I could understand the reasoning for it for 29 or 26 (considering the former's cast is all-strangers and the latter had some strangers), but there was simply no excuse for that to occur on 27-28. Completely weird and makes the tone feel off (and in 27's case, completely ruins the momentum of the Starting Line Task).
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 06, 2017, 12:01:01 AM
I think the Season 28 premiere is underappreciated.  Yes, there's no classic starting line.. Yes, it starts off very gimmick-y, but a night Detour, HoO, and a Roadblock all in one leg?!  And all three tasks are actual tasks, compared to like, that Roadblock in 24's premiere (the weird one with the spinning nonsense). 

And a big big plus to those who hate the new editing style:  ALL ELEVEN teams are actually shown picking up clues and completing the tasks (I'm pretty positive on this one... I just rewatched the premiere the other day :lol: ).
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 14, 2017, 08:06:55 PM
The fact that Bill & Cathi could've won a leg several times :(

Leg 2:  If they didn't mess up at the orphanage (they would've gone from 11th to 1st :o )
Leg 5:  If they just ran to the Pit Stop and beat Amani & Marcus
Leg 8:  I don't remember this leg too well, but maybe if Ernie & Cindy didn't U-Turn they might've had a chance ???
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Keepcopz on April 15, 2017, 11:21:24 AM
I miss Phil's voice over narration about the Pit Start city at the beginning of the episode. When did he stop doing it since I notice it's been gone in 29? :P
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on April 15, 2017, 03:33:23 PM
Season 26 I believe, so they could focus on all the "romance"
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on April 16, 2017, 05:54:48 PM
If there's ONE thing that makes the recent seasons better than Seasons 15-17, it's the fact that they still change the intro clips!  I hope they never stop (if there's a season 30.. :( )
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on April 25, 2017, 12:05:05 AM
I haven't watched TAR13 in years so I decided to click on it on Hulu and binged through the first couple of Legs up to Cambodia and really enjoyed them. I've always had TAR13 as a middling season on my all-time list but I really enjoyed the locations, the tasks and there was definitely plenty of team drama. I guess I definitely appreciate it more after, basically, most of the lackluster seasons of the HD Era.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on April 25, 2017, 09:06:59 AM
I haven't watched TAR13 in years so I decided to click on it on Hulu and binged through the first couple of Legs up to Cambodia and really enjoyed them. I've always had TAR13 as a middling season on my all-time list but I really enjoyed the locations, the tasks and there was definitely plenty of team drama. I guess I definitely appreciate it more after, basically, most of the lackluster seasons of the HD Era.

This is actually soooooo true! I remember thinking it was a poor Season after the first watch, but remember going back to it a few years ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it.  The only thing that really bugs me is Nick & Star's dominance.  :groan:  And the first 3 boots were my 3 favourite teams.  :'(
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: gamerfan09 on April 25, 2017, 09:46:39 AM
Yeah TAR13 isn't that bad and just kind of suffers from Nick & Starr/Toni & Dallas boringly doing well and airing after TAR12
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on April 25, 2017, 12:11:31 PM
Yeah, I'm going to finish the season maybe today after stopping after Episode 5 and just starting Ep 6. But if I remember, it was only after the India Leg and the elimination of the Divorcees when Nick & Starr started taking over and I never was a fan of them.

Ken & Tina were total All-Star material too. Certainly better than a few TARUB teams and at least half of the TAR24 teams.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Marionete on April 25, 2017, 12:44:46 PM
I loved Ken & Starr! TAR13 is definitely more forgettable than say TAR17, so Brooke & Claire's lack of return stings more, but it's sad anyway. :/

^
Ken & Tina, pardon my typo. :lol:
>>
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on April 25, 2017, 01:17:19 PM
Ken & Starr? :O

That would make an interesting team-up...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on April 25, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
all I remember from tar 13 was Dallas's lost passport...
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on April 25, 2017, 08:33:03 PM
all I remember from tar 13 was Dallas's lost passport...
How can you forget the infamous Dandered  :funny:

Ken & Tina are a pair of funny a-bit-older team that we are lancing in recent seasons
I still remember Tina's quote during the Cambodia detouur 'we are going to the dentist, to a pick up some new teeth for me  :funny:

Honesty, I would love either them or Kelly & Christy to come back in a returnee season
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on April 26, 2017, 01:28:55 AM
I was really annoyed by Dandrew falling forward so much. I thought they were horrible. But watching them now, I think they're hilarious and fun to watch. I wouldn't want them to win, but them reaching the Final 3 is okay.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on April 26, 2017, 05:03:24 AM
I was really annoyed by Dandrew falling forward so much. I thought they were horrible. But watching them now, I think they're hilarious and fun to watch. I wouldn't want them to win, but them reaching the Final 3 is okay.

Oh my gawd, I loved Dan and Andrew!!!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on April 26, 2017, 07:11:40 AM
all I remember from tar 13 was Dallas's lost passport...
How can you forget the infamous Dandered  :funny:

Ken & Tina are a pair of funny a-bit-older team that we are lancing in recent seasons
I still remember Tina's quote during the Cambodia detouur 'we are going to the dentist, to a pick up some new teeth for me  :funny:

Honesty, I would love either them or Kelly & Christy to come back in a returnee season

I've read rumours that Dandrew were approached for UB.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: cbacbacba1 on April 26, 2017, 07:28:46 AM
all I remember from tar 13 was Dallas's lost passport...
How can you forget the infamous Dandered  :funny:

Ken & Tina are a pair of funny a-bit-older team that we are lancing in recent seasons
I still remember Tina's quote during the Cambodia detouur 'we are going to the dentist, to a pick up some new teeth for me  :funny:

Honesty, I would love either them or Kelly & Christy to come back in a returnee season

I've read rumours that Dandrew were approached for UB.
Yes I did too
Thank God they were not chosen
They are all-star material but definitely not having any unfinished business  :groan:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on April 26, 2017, 07:39:49 AM
The "rumor" is fact, incidentally.  :angel
I would also argue they had unfinished business (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?topic=16724.25) but ut's the kind that would implicate the show so I get why that wasn't an option. Even then, a terrible taxi in the finale and wanting to prove they're a good team got Jaime & Cara on the season so :shrug
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on April 26, 2017, 07:48:01 AM
Yes I did too
Thank God they were not chosen
They are all-star material but definitely not having any unfinished business  :groan:

Unfinished business aka All-Stars plus Mel & Mike and Zev & Justin.

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on April 26, 2017, 03:56:08 PM
Yes I did too
Thank God they were not chosen
They are all-star material but definitely not having any unfinished business  :groan:

Unfinished business aka All-Stars plus Mel & Mike and Zev & Justin.

Aka Unfinished Business plus Gary & Mallory
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Zack. on April 27, 2017, 12:21:52 PM
I mean say what you will about their longevity on their original season but Zev & Justin qualified under the theme of "unfinished business" more than just about every team except Kisha & Jen.

Honestly the only change in cast I'd make (since I accept that certain Cowboys teams Globetrotters would always be cast) is Ken & Tina over Kris & Amanda. Maaaaaybe Sam & Dan over Mel & Mike but could anyone predict Mel nearly dying of hypothermia three legs in (don't answer that  :))
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on May 03, 2017, 07:30:27 AM
Just looking at the Wiki for TAR 10, and you know what, it was actually much better than it gets credit for.

- Tyler & James weren't the dominating Alpha Male team I remembered them to be.
- First ever FF team in the Final 3. (Even if it was the wrong one) #JusticeForBeautyQueens  :lol:
- It's also the first Season to have a team reach the Final 3 without winning a Leg.
- Most of the boot order was fairly unpredictable.  :hoot:
- Some stellar locations - Even with the first 6 Legs being in Asia.  :saywhat:
- Forgot how much I loved Duke & Lauren - Placing 2nd & 3rd, before their untimely elimination.  :'(

It definitely had it's problems - Leg 1 Mid-Leg Elimination :groan:  and AWFUL winners, but think I'll give it another watch once TAR 29 finishes up.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 03, 2017, 11:12:39 AM
Season 10 is great, except the Final Leg. Horrible Leg design
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on May 03, 2017, 03:33:52 PM
Season 10, often considered the most diverse race route of all time. Still my favourite season by far
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on May 03, 2017, 04:32:34 PM
Season 10, often considered the most diverse race route of all time. Still my favourite season by far

Really?  :o  I've never heard that before.  :o  Why though, almost all the Legs were in hot, summery locations, and there wasn't any colder locations, with snow etc?  ???  Surely 18, or 22 would be more diverse - both had locations consisting of Beaches, Snow, Desert / Humid locations, Cities, Rural areas, etc.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on May 13, 2017, 09:21:14 PM
Season 10, often considered the most diverse race route of all time. Still my favourite season by far

Really?  :o  I've never heard that before.  :o  Why though, almost all the Legs were in hot, summery locations, and there wasn't any colder locations, with snow etc?  ???  Surely 18, or 22 would be more diverse - both had locations consisting of Beaches, Snow, Desert / Humid locations, Cities, Rural areas, etc.

Dustin & Kandice once admitted that they brought too many tank tops and just one t-shirt so they had to reuse that t-shirt on many occasions because wearing them wasn't appropriate in cold locations or cultural locations, so the route is definitely diverse.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: naejae91 on May 13, 2017, 10:40:37 PM
Although I agree 6 Asia leg in a season would be too much but I like the execution on TAR10 since they touch East Asia (Beijing was delivered on terms of chaos factor, even the Mongolia leg have the Central Asia vibe), Southeast Asia (They visit northern Vietnam which last visit only cover southern and central Vietnam and not to mention Ha Long Bay), South Asia (They visit Southern India which TAR4 India 2 only visit there prior to this complete with driving RB), and West Asia/Middle East (New country of Kuwait).
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on May 25, 2017, 03:41:22 AM
Do people notice that TAR 9 intro looks brighter and glowing?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on June 06, 2017, 03:09:02 AM
Personally, I am not a fan of TAR 10. Some of the good teams went out early, like Vipul & Aarti, Kellie & Jamie and Peter & Sarah. I hated the six pack alliance and found this part highly laughable, and I felt that some legs were very underwhelming, such as the first leg in Beijing, China, the second Vietnamese leg, Mauritius, Madagascar (as the Fast Forward teams were beat), the tenth leg (they should have stayed in Europe) and the eleventh leg (which spends half time in Morocco and the other in Barcelona). The final leg was also extremely disappointing for it's design.

Moreover, I despised the majority of the cast. I liked Rob & Kimberley, the Beauty Queens, and Tyler & James (to a point) but Lyn & Karilyn... Words cannot even explain. It did have a lot of potential, with the diverse locations and all but this season is where the lack of editing started to show. Again, this is only my opinion.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on July 09, 2017, 10:35:51 PM
I am currently going through a re-watch of the first season. I must say, I was not particularly impressed with the third, fifth or sixth legs due to poor task design and rather lackluster editing. However, the first two episodes and the two legs in India were sensational.

This is only my opinion but I consider TAR 1's visit to India to be the absolute best in the series. The locations were pretty stunning in Agra, it was refreshing to see in it's first season and also the culture shock. I haven't watched beyond Leg 8 so far this rerun, but will continue shortly.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BritishTARFan on July 10, 2017, 03:14:36 PM
I also just watched seasons 1 & 2. I never realised how intense they were. That race between Will/Tara & Chris/Alex  :-X

I just want to know.S2 had the whole world but visited Thailand & Alaska again. The Thailand was at least a differnet region but I dont understand why they visited Alaska again!
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Wadsy591 on July 17, 2017, 11:05:09 PM
I also just watched seasons 1 & 2. I never realised how intense they were. That race between Will/Tara & Chris/Alex  :-X

I just want to know.S2 had the whole world but visited Thailand & Alaska again. The Thailand was at least a differnet region but I dont understand why they visited Alaska again!

Yeah, Season 2's location choices weren't the best. If it hadn't been for Brazil, Australia and New Zealand, it wouldn't have been this high. Visiting South Africa, Thailand and Alaska again were just playing it safe after TAR 1.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: BourkieBoy on July 18, 2017, 01:01:47 AM
Yeah, Season 2's location choices weren't the best. If it hadn't been for Brazil, Australia and New Zealand, it wouldn't have been this high. Visiting South Africa, Thailand and Alaska again were just playing it safe after TAR 1.

But they didn't truly visit South Africa in TAR1. All they did was go to the airport and then catch a ride to another airport to catch a flight to Zambia. They didn't do any tasks in the country.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: georgiapeach on July 18, 2017, 06:19:24 PM
So...do we agree??

https://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2017/07/survivor-amazing-race-winners-age-race-***/

Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: G.B. on July 19, 2017, 02:07:42 AM
What's the point of a survey like that if it doesn't even cover every season?
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on July 21, 2017, 05:35:56 AM
For some reason, these team photos remind me of the 90's (even though TAR debuted in 2001). And also some (just meh with Kelly & Jon and Millie & Chuck) of the best teams, and throwback to older TAR seasons.

Oh, how much time passed.  :didimiss:

From left to right: Flo & Zach (TAR 3, 2002), Kelly & Jon and Millie & Chuck (TAR 4, 2003), Jaime & Cara (TAR 14, 2008), Brook & Claire (TAR 17, 2010), and Brooke & Scott (TAR 29, 2016).

(http://www.realityfanwiki.com/images/2/21/TAR3-Flo-Zach.jpg)(https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/amazingrace/images/2/26/KellyJon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121215130312)(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/amazingrace/images/2/25/MillieChuck.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121215130337)(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/amazingrace/images/6/6b/JaimeCara.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130323045344)(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/amazingrace/images/7/76/BrookClaire.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130316041340)(https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/amazingrace/images/f/fb/S29_BrookeScott.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170401004437)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Theo on July 21, 2017, 06:31:23 AM
Shook that there are people who are meh to Kelly and Jon
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: Lemontail on July 21, 2017, 07:08:44 AM
It's just that they are entertaining team but sadly is put in a forgettable season, but like them anyway.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: redskevin88 on July 23, 2017, 07:58:28 AM
For some reason, these team photos remind me of the 90's (even though TAR debuted in 2001). And also some (just meh with Kelly & Jon and Millie & Chuck) of the best teams, and throwback to older TAR seasons.

Oh, how much time passed.  :didimiss:

From left to right: Flo & Zach (TAR 3, 2002), Kelly & Jon and Millie & Chuck (TAR 4, 2003), Jaime & Cara (TAR 14, 2008), Brook & Claire (TAR 17, 2010), and Brooke & Scott (TAR 29, 2016).

Millie looks like she's from Family Edition!  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: TARUSAFan on July 23, 2017, 09:58:03 AM
For some reason, these team photos remind me of the 90's (even though TAR debuted in 2001). And also some (just meh with Kelly & Jon and Millie & Chuck) of the best teams, and throwback to older TAR seasons.

Oh, how much time passed.  :didimiss:

From left to right: Flo & Zach (TAR 3, 2002), Kelly & Jon and Millie & Chuck (TAR 4, 2003), Jaime & Cara (TAR 14, 2008), Brook & Claire (TAR 17, 2010), and Brooke & Scott (TAR 29, 2016).



Flo & Zach reincarnated through Brooke & Scott. That's a tick, now I need to see a Jaime & Cara, Brooke & Claire or Dustin & Kandice reincarnated.
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: fossil-racer on August 11, 2017, 04:52:45 PM
Rewatched the end of TAR 26 and it wasn't that bad. I didn't like the forced element of love though.

TAR 26 was actually pretty competitive and I like that.


Also looked through my notes and my prediction for this season was so bad.  :funny:
 :funny: 11 Mike/Rochelle
 :funny: 10 Jelani/Jenny
9 Bergen/Kurt
 :funny: 8 CJ/Libby
7 Jeff/Jackie
 :funny: 6 Jeff/Lyda
 :funny: 5 Jonathan/Harley
4 Matt/Ashley
3 Aly/Steve
2 Blair/Hayley
1 Laura/Tyler
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on August 14, 2017, 06:44:53 AM
At least you predicted the winners.  :lol:  And in fairness, Mike & Rochelle definitely looked like an obvious pre-race early boot.  :funny:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: claude_24hrs on September 05, 2017, 06:32:21 PM
Presenting here are the maps for all 29 seasons of the race:

Season 1
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=JFK-JNB-LVI-CDG-MRS-TUN-FCO-DEL-JAI-BKK-HKT-PEK-ANC-JFK&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 2
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAS-GIG-IGU-CPT-WVB-WDH-BKK-CNX-HKG-SYD-CPD-ZQN-AKL-OGG-ANC-SFO&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 3
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=MIA-MEX-CUN-CBG-ABZ-OPO-LIS-TNG-FEZ-RAK-MUC-ZRH-GVA-KUL-SIN-SGN-DAD-HNL-SEA&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 4
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-MXP-CDF-VCE-VIE-LME-MRS-AMS-BOM-COK-BKI-SDK-ICN-BNE-CNS-ITO-PHX&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 5
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-MVD-EZE-BRC-LED-CAI-LXR-NBO-JRO-DXB-CCU-ROT-MNL-ENI-YYC-DFW&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 6
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=ORD-KEF-BGO-ARN-DKR-TXL-BUD-AJA-NCE-LLI-CMB-PVG-XIY-HNL-ORD&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 7
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-LIM-CUZ-SCL-MDZ-EZE-JNB-MUB-LKO-JDH-IST-LHR-MBJ-SJU-MIA&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 8
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=JFK-PHL-DCA-CHS-HSV-HBG-MSY-PTY-SJO-PHX-PGA-SLC-COD-BIL-YUL-YYZ-BUF&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=40N95W&MR=540&MX=540x540&PM=b:cstar7:red&RC=%23000000)

Season 9
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=DEN-GRU-SVO-STR-MUC-PMO-CTA-FCO-ATH-MCT-PER-DRW-BKK-NRT-ANC-DEN&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 10
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=SEA-PEK-ULN-HAN-MAA-KWI-MRU-TNR-HEL-KBP-OZZ-BCN-CDG-JFK&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 11
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=MIA-UIO-SCL-CJC-PMC-PUQ-USH-MPM-ZNZ-WAW-KRK-KUL-HKG-MFM-GUM-HNL-SFO&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 12
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-SNN-AMS-OUA-VNO-DBV-FLR-BOM-KIX-TPE-ANC&MS=wls&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 13
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-SSA-FOR-LPB-AKL-REP-DEL-ALA-SVO-PDX&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 14
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-LSMI-MUC-SZG-OTP-KJA-OVB-JAI-HKT-BKK-KWL-PEK-OGG&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 15
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-NRT-SGN-PNH-DXB-GRQ-ARN-TLL-PRG-LAS&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 16
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-VAP-PUX-BRC-HAM-LFGW-RHE-SEZ-PEN-SIN-PVG-SFO&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 17
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=BOS-LHR-ACC-KRN-EVE-LED-MCT-DAC-HKG-ICN-LAX&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 18
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-SYD-BHQ-YOK-LJG-KMG-CCU-VNS-VIE-SZG-LSEZ-GIG-MIA&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 19
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-TPE-JOG-HKT-BKK-LLW-CPH-BRU-PTY-ATL&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 20
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-SLA-EZE-ASU-TRN-MUC-GYD-JRO-COK-HIJ-KIX-HNL&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 21
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-PVG-SUB-DAC-IST-SVO-AMS-PMI-TUF-JFK&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 22
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-BOB-CHC-DPS-HAN-MUB-LSMI-TXL-EDI-BHD-IAD&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 23
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-IQQ-SCL-LIS-SVJ-GDN-VIE-AUH-BDO-NRT-JNU&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 24
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-CAN-BKI-KUL-CMB-FCO-LSME-SVQ-LPL-LAS&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 25
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=JFK-STT-LHR-LSI-CPH-RAK-PMO-MLA-SIN-MNL-LAX&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 26
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-NRT-HKT-BKK-MUC-NCE-MCM-WVB-AMS-TRU-DFW&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 27
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-GIG-EZE-LVI-VFA-CDG-RTM-KRK-AGR-HKG-MFM-JFK&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 28
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=MEX-CTG-GVA-EVN-TBS-DXB-DPS-SZX-LAX&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)

Season 29
(http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=LAX-PTY-GRU-DAR-ZNZ-AES-MXP-VCE-ATH-HAN-ICN-ORD&MS=wls&MP=rect&MC=15N10E&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=b:cstar7)
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: NMC on September 18, 2017, 01:37:14 PM
Currently re-watching Oz Vs. NZ, and I really can't understand why it's so underrated.  ???  This is the first time I've watched it since the original airing, but even then I remember really enjoying it.

- The route's fantastic - Visited all 6 Continents.
- There's a number of All-Star worthy tasks.
- Every Leg is jammed with tasks.  Way more than the standard RB, Detour, Pitstop we're accustomed to nowadays.  :groan:
- The Teams!!! Great cast.. Some of my all time favourite teams in Sally & Tyson, Cat & Jesse... and Eh... John & Murray.  :escape

I've always considered Oz 2 as the measuring stick all other seasons should aspire to reach, so following it was always going to be tough, but it did a really good job of living up to the expectations, even it is a gimmick season.

Even though the ratings sucked, the quality warranted a renewal alone.  I'll just continue to pray for a return, or if nothing else, an All Star season to at least give the Oz version a proper send off.

BTW, great job with the maps Claude!  :conf:
Title: Re: Previous TAR Seasons Discussions
Post by: fossil-racer on October 08, 2017, 04:45:14 PM
FF teams haven't done well in the last few seasons :groan:
10 teams have made the top 6 in the last 9 seasons out of the 23 FF teams. Only 1 has won the whole thing and only 3 FF teams have made the finals.

Season 20
Nary/Jamie 6th
Kerri/Stacy 8th
Misa/Maiya 11th :funny:

Season 21
Natalie/Nadiya 4th
Caitlin/Brittany 9th

Season 22
Mona/Beth 3rd
Caroline/Jenn 4th
Pam and Winnie 7th

Season 23
Ally/Ashley 5th
Nicky/Kim 6th

Season 24
Caroline/Jenn 2nd
Natalie/Nadiya 11th

Season 25
Amy/Maya 1st
Kym/Alli 5th
Shelley/Nici 7th
Lisa/Michelle 11th

Season 26
No FF teams

Season 27
Tiffany/Krista 4th
Jazmine/Danielle 8th
Kelly/Shevonne 11th

Season 28
Erin/Joslyn 8th
Jessica/Brittany 9th
Marty/Hagan 11th

Season 29
Jessie/Francesca 10th