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Title: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2010, 01:34:10 PM
No title yet, but from TV Guide we have: (thanks to AT for the heads up!)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/TAR16ep5TVGuide.jpg)

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=299761&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=14439607

puddin or I will edit in the details as they appear! :wine: mais oui, mes cheries!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "no title yet" (France)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 28, 2010, 06:02:02 AM
I believe they have now confirmed this episode's title as "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France).

I hopt that's Caite who says that, but I'm not convinced (they weren't the ones who got the wrong currency, so it may not be them).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "no title yet" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2010, 07:22:34 AM
Could you link me to that please? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "no title yet" (France)
Post by: jerseydude on February 28, 2010, 08:50:27 AM
The CBS Website.http://www.cbs.com/info/schedule/index.php  Screenshot below

(http://i50.[banned image hosting site].com/4qmmfp.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "no title yet" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2010, 08:54:04 AM
Thanks! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on February 28, 2010, 10:20:05 AM
woohoo, fifth episode title is up. hmm, france, nice location they are going
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on February 28, 2010, 10:41:08 AM
woohoo, fifth episode title is up. hmm, France, nice location they are going

Beaches of Normandy?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2010, 10:47:44 AM
We have LOADS of info on this in the locations thread...will try to bring it over later this week.

Fort Seclin area MAY be possible. ;)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
  :bump        ...getting ready for Sunday preview vidcaps
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 06, 2010, 07:27:31 PM
woohoo, fifth episode title is up. hmm, France, nice location they are going

Beaches of Normandy?

We're looking for a World War I site, not WWII.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 06, 2010, 08:03:54 PM
They've already done Normandy (TAR 10, wasn't it?)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 06, 2010, 08:36:17 PM
This has been transferred from this Ep. 5 to the more appropriate Ep. 4 thread.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 08:38:51 PM
 :lol:  ummmm.... wrong thread... belongs in Ep. 4 thread... this is Ep. 5   :res:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 06, 2010, 08:47:02 PM
:lol:  ummmm.... wrong thread... belongs in Ep. 4 thread... this is Ep. 5   :res:

:lol3:

I think we're really fighting the Germans! wait? Germans?  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
Take a close look at the Fort Seclin area..... 
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 06, 2010, 10:19:23 PM
Found a vid at Youtube. A reenactment of a WWI fight in Fort Seclin. (But if this is posted before, I'm sorry for not browsing again! :lol3)

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2010, 10:25:34 PM
There is tons of stuff in the location and spec threads...if anyone wants to, please quote and bring over anything relevant!! puddin and I would appreciate the help right now!! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 07, 2010, 12:10:41 AM
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Maybe this helps:  (not the dates, just the location)


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Date: Saturday 17th October 2009
Fort Seclin

Great War Event at Fort Seclin nr Lille France. 17 & 18/10/09


copied from here http://www.thegreatwarsociety.com/

Info on Fort Seclin
http://www.cheminsdememoire.gouv.fr/page/affichelieu.php?idLieu=1163&idLang=en

This needs a lot more "TAR Detecting", but I'm not very good at it (see screen name  )
 
 
« Last Edit: January 23, 2010, 02:03:05 PM by 2old4tech » 

 

*Brought over from the speculation thread
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 07, 2010, 12:18:14 AM
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2old4tech,

When I saw the video, I have a new appreciation for the probability of Fort de Seclin being the right place. It could well be that place, as few places in France are a permanent and living museum. I think here are some great ideas for tasks:

1. Dressing up as soldiers and marching (playing the British, French or German soldiers does not look difficult and I think the probability of another Andrew/Dan marching trials/tribulations is low)
2. Find an object in that museum (I am recalling Amazing Race Asia 3 - the Miniatures Museum in Taipei)
3. Dig trenches

I am honoring your find with a map of the south side of the greater Lille area(see lowest pane) showing Seclin about 10 miles south of the center of Lille, just west of Route National E17/A1. Look to the left of the circled H. That is maybe a 20 minute drive from the train station to Seclin. With left-hand drive like in the U.S. and signage that is eminently readable there is no reason why AR16 teams could not go to self-drive vehicles which they then take on to Charles de Gaulle airport.

Map of Area near Seclin France in bottom pane

I would also like to furnish directions from Seclin to CDG airport, which is 16 miles northeast of the center of Paris. It is quite simple:

1. Get on the A1 toll road south to Paris for approximately 175 km. Take the exit 6-Roissy-en-France.
2. Do a zig-zag left/right/left/left/right/right/left/right for the next 8 km.

 
 
« Last Edit: January 23, 2010, 09:29:57 PM by apskip » 
 


*from speculation thread
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 07, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
Juat a reminder for US and Canadian viewers and everyone who watches live elsewhere:

Baylight Savings Time begins at 2 am next Sunday ET/PT; if you use a recording device that doesn't automatically adjust then for DST, you'll need to adjust manually. (Older devices -- manufactured before 2008) don't "spring forward" for another two weeks.)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: kwando1313 on March 07, 2010, 08:00:49 PM
Anyways... Next week on the Amazing Race, they dress up as soldiers. Probably they have to do a trench exercise. And there is a Blind U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 07, 2010, 08:02:02 PM
Anyways... Next week on the Amazing Race, they dress up as soldiers. Probably they have to do a trench exercise. And there is a Blind U-Turn.
My money's on Jordeff getting U-Turned by Brent & Caite
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 08:04:44 PM
They are in a semi-alliance though...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: kwando1313 on March 07, 2010, 08:04:50 PM
No, when Joe and Heidi were there, there was already a picture on the U-turn.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2010, 08:26:00 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0000.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0001.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0002.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0003.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0004.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0005.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0006.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0012.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0013.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0014.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0015.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0017.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0018.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0019.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0020.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0022.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 07, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
the U-Turned team is a co-ed in blue
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 07, 2010, 08:30:58 PM
The hair of the female is brown, so I'm guessing it's Steve & Allie or Joe & Heidi
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: puddin on March 07, 2010, 08:33:07 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0025.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0024.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep5/rff-0023.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 07, 2010, 08:39:39 PM
The person on the left doesn't have much hair, and the one on the right has dark hair?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: misterblah on March 07, 2010, 08:45:53 PM
After reading the timeline, and the possible teams eliminated, I'm sure the team in the u-turn picture is definetly joe and heidi which means they are most likely eliminated. :ascared It's no surprise considering they are a pretty strong team.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 09:00:32 PM
I don't know if mine is better or worse?? :lol: But I'm thinking Steve and Allie too. :(  ...or maybe Joe and Heidi now. :lol:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Uturnclue.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Uturnclueenhanced.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: sses on March 07, 2010, 09:03:28 PM
I looked and saw there is only 3 teams left that have a girl on the right side .... S/A .... B/C ... and Joe and heidi
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Lutpay on March 07, 2010, 09:07:14 PM
i just saw from wikipedia, that team that got blind u-turn is joe and heidi, wikipedia just ACCIDENTALLY update the team's position on leg 5 and show that joe and heidi is in 8th place, but when I checked back just now, his writings have been deleted. how lucky I am!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: nathyn on March 07, 2010, 09:08:26 PM
I don't know if mine is better or worse?? :lol: But I'm thinking Steve and Allie too. :(


Looks more like Joe and Heidi to me.  The woman's face is more oval and that's more in line with Heidi.  Allie's face is rounder.

Edit: Plus if you look at the woman, she's leaning toward the other person.  It matches with Joe and Heidi's picture on CBS's website. (http://wwwimage.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/images/content/cast/TAR_Heads_16_0000_Joe_Hedi.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 09:14:52 PM
i just saw from wikipedia, that team that got blind u-turn is joe and heidi, wikipedia just ACCIDENTALLY update the team's position on leg 5 and show that joe and heidi is in 8th place, but when I checked back just now, his writings have been deleted. how lucky I am!  :lol: :lol:

Wiki can be updated by anyone, we don't trust it here. But :welcome:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 09:16:08 PM
I don't know if mine is better or worse?? :lol: But I'm thinking Steve and Allie too. :(


Looks more like Joe and Heidi to me.  The woman's face is more oval and that's more in line with Heidi.  Allie's face is rounder.

Edit: Plus if you look at the woman, she's leaning toward the other person.  It matches with Joe and Heidi's picture on CBS's website. (http://wwwimage.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/images/content/cast/TAR_Heads_16_0000_Joe_Hedi.jpg)

Okay...now I like Joe and Heidi. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: kimj on March 07, 2010, 09:17:42 PM
the hair looks the length of heidi's also
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: slayton on March 07, 2010, 09:18:09 PM
I'll agree, thanks to puddin's screencaps, that it's probably Joe & Heidi.

In the insider videos for the first three episodes, there has always been at least one video where Louie & Michael and/or Dan & Jordan have bashed Joe.  (They seem to be as obsessed with Joe as Lynn & Alex and Susan & Patrick were about Rob & Amber.)

This insider video from episode 3 is probably the most telling one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wco3vwqMxps
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 09:20:33 PM
Speaking of the screencaps:

THANK YOU PUDDIN!!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 07, 2010, 09:48:18 PM
I was hoping someone would vidcap and enhance, because I was pretty sure we'd get something to work with.

Thanks, Puddin!

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It matches with Joe and Heidi's picture on CBS's website.

The team photos on the CBS website have always been used by the teams for the U-Turn and the Yield since they were introduced.

While the U-Turn may or may not cause an elimination (some teams have managed to escape), the fact that we have a different team doing the speed bump makes this more interesting.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: kwando1313 on March 07, 2010, 11:03:22 PM
Well... It seems like there is a general task that is an assault course...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: nathyn on March 07, 2010, 11:21:57 PM
Ooh. One of the new insider videos has Dan and Jordan talking about U-turning Joe and Heidi the first chance they get. And Carol and Brandy were also offended. Makes it sure sound like Joe and Heidi are U-turned next.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 08, 2010, 04:42:41 AM
I'll bet that Joe and Heidi (if they are indeed) escape the Blind U-Turn ala Nicholas and Donald.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 08, 2010, 06:08:36 AM
Joe looks like one of those South Vietnamese soldiers in Green Berets
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 08, 2010, 07:03:22 AM
I have to agree about the picture being Joe & Heidi.

Oh, and what a shame! Jet & Cord will probably have to take off their cowboy hats when they get into uniform.  :lol: How disappointing, he even bungeed with it! :'(
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2010, 08:50:25 AM
I have been rethinking transportation from Hamburg to Lille. It can be done by train, which is good since the driving distance is 356 miles. Here is the best schedule:
     
Train 515    5:38AM (note - there is an earlier train at 523am but there wold be no little gain from taking it)
Hamburg Hbf
9:46AM
Koeln Hbf,
4hr 8min    
     
Thalys9428    10:44AM
Koeln Hbf,
12:32PM
Bruxelles Midi,
1hr 48min    

Train9828    12:49PM
Bruxelles Midi,
1:23PM
Lille
0hr 34min

There are other trains, but they tend to have outlandish out-of-the-way routes and much longer transit times.

The above suggests that maybe teams flew from Hamburg to Lille. That is a reasonable option. Here are the schedules:

AF3231 HAM LYS 0610 0815 via Lyon
AF7813 LYS LIL   0845 0955

AF3231 HAM CDG 0710 0845
AF7813 CDG XDB (this is really a train connection from CDG to the train station at Lille airport) 1027 1128

AF3233 HAM LYS 1220 1405
AF7815 LYS LIL   1530 1645

AF3235 HAM LYS 1745 1930
AF7817 LYS LIL   1955 2110
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 08, 2010, 10:57:35 AM
Have we considered airplane from Hamburg to Paris and then TGV to Lille?

If they took the train, shame on TPTB for bypassing Belgium.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Belle Book on March 08, 2010, 10:58:23 AM
I'll agree, thanks to puddin's screencaps, that it's probably Joe & Heidi.

In the insider videos for the first three episodes, there has always been at least one video where Louie & Michael and/or Dan & Jordan have bashed Joe.  (They seem to be as obsessed with Joe as Lynn & Alex and Susan & Patrick were about Rob & Amber.)

This insider video from episode 3 is probably the most telling one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wco3vwqMxps


If Joe & Heidi are the targets, it's most likely either because Joe & Heidi helped Carol & Brandy at the expense of the other teams in episode 2 (Dan & Jordan and Louie & Michael) or because Joe & Heidi chose to align with Steve & Allie last time (Carol & Brandy).

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 10:58:52 AM
 :duno:  Just going to put my 2 cents in, and say that the plane is a German Fokker Triplane, same type used by Baron von Richthofen (Red Baron).  He was shot down near Amiens, France. That's about it.  This trench could be anywhere, but it does look too new and shiny, kind of like a movie set or theme park...  hmmmmm   :res:  OK, enough with the spreculation.  Can't really spoil trees and dirt.  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: kwando1313 on March 08, 2010, 11:48:57 AM
I think that assault course is a detour actually: It looks like right after they finish the assault course, then the U-Turn appears. But I can't find any assault courses in France...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 08, 2010, 12:27:25 PM
I think that assault course is a detour actually: It looks like right after they finish the assault course, then the U-Turn appears. But I can't find any assault courses in France...

I was thinking the same thing, but I wonder what the options are?  They did a Civil War Re-enactment Detour in Family Edition, "Heat of the Battle/Heat of the Night."
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 12:39:26 PM
OK, trees and dirt not doing anything for me... so here's some trivia to hold us over till we get more clues.

No surprise, the racers are dressed in US Army uniforms.  BTW, the shoulder patch indicates that they are in the US Army 1st Infantry Division.  ...oh yeah, the guys in blue are the French ...meh, carry on.

Society of the First Infantry Division (http://64.78.33.72/history/index.cfm)

Where 1st Division fought in WW1 (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=39619)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2010, 12:50:40 PM
Have we considered airplane from Hamburg to Paris and then TGV to Lille?

If they took the train, shame on TPTB for bypassing Belgium.

Caelestor,
Brussels is the capitol of Belgium and it is clearly part of the train itinerary. The planes might fly around Belgium, but the shortest route for trains between Hamburg and Lille is through Belgium.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 08, 2010, 12:53:24 PM
If this is a 12-hour-ish pit stop (with all the teams checking in at night, they'd be departing in daytime....and I would hope that TPTB wouldn't expect them to be driving with hangovers after all of that beer.

The previews are daylight, which suggests either a longer pitstop, or a bunching on arrival in France. If the pitstop is longer then self-driving becomes possible, although I think TPTB have greater control over arrival times if they leave by train.

The 9:00 am trains may be too early for all of the teams to make, though, with all of the tasks they had in this last leg after arriving on the train from Frankfurt; I don't think any of the teams finished by 9pm at night.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DeafRacer on March 08, 2010, 01:06:35 PM
I don't know if mine is better or worse?? :lol: But I'm thinking Steve and Allie too. :(  ...or maybe Joe and Heidi now. :lol:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Uturnclue.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Uturnclueenhanced.jpg)

If it was indeed Steve & Allie or Joe & Heidi turned out to be Blind U-Turn Victims.... BIG MISTAKEEEEE!!!!!

U-Turn Jet & Cord!!!!! Always target the strong team!!! Keep weak teams in the race!

I guess nobody learned a lesson from my mom and me about who to target for Blind U-Turn...  :lol:

But, I'm glad that a team made a bold move! There won't be a karma if a team made a strategic move unless an U-Turned team survived then.... uh-oh.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 08, 2010, 01:29:52 PM
There are quite a few explosions in the preview, and lots of activity that would seem to be destructive to an actual historical site.  Seems very likely to me that this is some type of constructed site.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 08, 2010, 03:04:18 PM
I'm leaning towards Joe/Heidi as well

1. The woman's hair in the picture is straight (Heidi's is, Allie's isn't)

2. AT LEAST half of the teams would love to see Joe gone (with 2 (maybe 3?) showing explicit intent to U-turn him)

no other team has a brunette with straight hair, and no other team (besides Carol/Brandy) has such animosity towards them

also, I read in a post somewhere that Jordeff get knocked down, but then recover (i.e. recovering from the speed bump and surviving this leg).

IMO, Joe/Heidi = toast
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 08, 2010, 03:08:21 PM
I found some websites that might be worth checking out :)

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/bigredonefrg/BRO.html

http://astozarmuseum.chez.com/history.html

http://www.1stid.org/index.cfm

ETA: Boingo posted about this already!  :tup: There might be a couple of things at the other two websites I posted to check out!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2010, 03:10:11 PM
I don't know if mine is better or worse?? :lol: But I'm thinking Steve and Allie too. :(  ...or maybe Joe and Heidi now. :lol:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Uturnclue.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Uturnclueenhanced.jpg)

If it was indeed Steve & Allie or Joe & Heidi turned out to be Blind U-Turn Victims.... BIG MISTAKEEEEE!!!!!

U-Turn Jet & Cord!!!!! Always target the strong team!!! Keep weak teams in the race!

I guess nobody learned a lesson from my mom and me about who to target for Blind U-Turn...  :lol:

But, I'm glad that a team made a bold move! There won't be a karma if a team made a strategic move unless an U-Turned team survived then.... uh-oh.

Good advice if feasible. I guess that Jet/Cord continue to stay out front much of the time, which would make it quite difficult for any other team to Blind U-Turn them.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 08, 2010, 03:27:04 PM
There are quite a few explosions in the preview, and lots of activity that would seem to be destructive to an actual historical site.  Seems very likely to me that this is some type of constructed site.

Good advice, but you can't U-Turn a team if that team is ahead of you and is past the U-Turn marker before you arrive there.   So far the strong teams look like Joe and Cord, Steve and Allie and Joe and Heidi.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 08, 2010, 03:45:17 PM
(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/dr-1-f10.jpg)

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/rff-0010.jpg)

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/rff-0011.jpg)


I believe this is a WWI German Fokker Tri-Plane

http://science.howstuffworks.com/fokker-dr-i-triplane.htm
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 08, 2010, 04:13:56 PM
Can we hope for a sample of "Snoopy and the Red Baron" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxzg_iM-T4E)?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 08, 2010, 04:14:30 PM
Well, I haven't read any of this (finally just finished watching the episode and didn't even get to see the preview - uploader was lazy this time (:;)), but I did stumble upon this video:




Can anyone please post the post-episode preview, please? I hate not having normal TV access. :P
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 08, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
There are quite a few explosions in the preview, and lots of activity that would seem to be destructive to an actual historical site.  Seems very likely to me that this is some type of constructed site.

Good advice, but you can't U-Turn a team if that team is ahead of you and is past the U-Turn marker before you arrive there.   So far the strong teams look like Joe and Cord, Steve and Allie and Joe and Heidi.

So if the detectives get there 1st..they are mad at J/H also for the line-holding maneuver, and prob know how much they are disliked and a strong team, so i think they could have U-Turned J/H, unless Dan &Bros got there 1st also and did it!! J/H seem to be most everyone's target.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 08, 2010, 04:19:42 PM

Good advice, but you can't U-Turn a team if that team is ahead of you and is past the U-Turn marker before you arrive there.

Yes, you can. It has been done before, although it didn't work.

And having just looked at that picture of the U-turn board, I believe Joe & Heidi. Every editing moment they are given points to it, and the picture is the final nail in the coffin. I agree - Joe & Heidi are toast. Nobody has any real good reason to U-turn them, but it will inevitably happen anyway. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 08, 2010, 04:24:18 PM
The team photos on the CBS website have always been used by the teams for the U-Turn and the Yield since they were introduced.

No, they haven't. I don't recall the website photos having ever been used for this purpose. Usually it's the photos they use to shoot the intro with that are used for U-turn photos (although there are sometimes exceptions). If you look back at one of the Yield/U-turn stand ups (with Phil explaining them) you can see all the team photos used.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: River on March 08, 2010, 04:34:57 PM
The team photos on the CBS website have always been used by the teams for the U-Turn and the Yield since they were introduced.

No, they haven't. I don't recall the website photos having ever been used for this purpose. Usually it's the photos they use to shoot the intro with that are used for U-turn photos (although there are sometimes exceptions). If you look back at one of the Yield/U-turn stand ups (with Phil explaining them) you can see all the team photos used.
Hooky is correct. I recall different pics used.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 08, 2010, 04:35:10 PM
Quote
Can anyone please post the post-episode preview, please? I hate not having normal TV access.


 

Here you go!  :waves:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 04:36:17 PM
Can we hope for a sample of "Snoopy and the Red Baron" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxzg_iM-T4E)?

 :lol:  looks like they are using a Fokker Triplane made to look like the one the Red Baron used.

Red Baron's plane (http://www.sierratoysoldier.com/ourstore/pc/AM-AP203-Desktop-Fokker-Triplane-696p6604.htm)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 08, 2010, 04:50:08 PM
Hint, look for armchairs in France! Doesn't look like Lille to me.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: puddin on March 08, 2010, 05:04:32 PM
RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 08, 2010, 05:10:12 PM
Joe's team is so screwed   :res:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 05:12:48 PM
 :lol: I'm seeing the inside of a bus... bus then self-drive?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 08, 2010, 05:21:40 PM
I thought maybe Louie was quoting from "Apocalypse Now," but the original line is "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 05:37:34 PM
Here is the episode preview with a big :thankyou: for the help!!



Oh just saw yours Sailing... :ty3: SO much!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 05:40:24 PM
Was coming to post the new video, will try to get some screenshots in a bit!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 08, 2010, 05:41:32 PM
Trying to find this Chateau:

(http://i46.[banned image hosting site].com/al0wfp.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 08, 2010, 05:46:16 PM
Was coming to post the new video, will try to get some screenshots in a bit!! :hearts:


Thanks Peach! Great job on the video! It is a lot easier to view then the one I posted!  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 08, 2010, 05:53:29 PM
Trying to find this Chateau:

(http://i46.[banned image hosting site].com/al0wfp.jpg)

Is this a video that is supposed to be viewed, cuz i can't and the one on the previous page is just spinning and nothing comes up...Can I find them anywhere else to view?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 08, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
^^That's just a screen cap.  Trying to identify the building.


The video Peach posted in Reply #74 worked OK for me.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 08, 2010, 06:02:34 PM
^^That's just a screen cap.  Trying to identify the building.

Oh...lmbo...I was trying to get it to play! You are teasing me!Ha
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 06:19:21 PM
These are really hard to get!! Bringing them as I can, there are zillions more! There are at least 10 hiding at the 10 sec mark, right with the word THE YEAR if anyone else can try too??



(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/town.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/bus.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/car.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/MikeandLouie.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/2010-03-08_184304.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/field.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/sidecar.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/BrentandCaite.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/JeffandJordan.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Michael.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/moustache.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/SteveandAlliestreet.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 08, 2010, 06:23:58 PM
Trying to find this Chateau:

(http://i46.[banned image hosting site].com/al0wfp.jpg)
Could it be Chateau des Monthairons in Verdun: http://www.chateaudesmonthairons.fr/
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
 :lol:  here's one that only lasts for a millisecond....  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 06:47:53 PM
Cool, looks like the chateau is near St. Mihiel and Verdun battlefied sites.  .. where US 1st Infantry fought  :tup:

Hostellerie du Château des  Monthairons (http://www.au-chateau.com/monthairons.htm)

chateu web site (http://www.chateaudesmonthairons.fr/)

Vicinity: ... World War I sites at Verdun, museums, the Argonne forest, Cistercian L'Abbaye de Lachalade, the American cemetery at Romagne-sous-Montfaucon, the Benedictine library at Saint-Mihiel, the Basilica of Notre Dame d'Avioth, nature walks, outdoor sports,  and other attractions of the beautiful Lorraine region.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 06:55:50 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/bikes.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/CarolandBrandydriving.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/wall.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Cowboys.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/roadagain.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/roadwatertowermaybe.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/field2.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/night.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/storemaybe.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 07:01:22 PM
I have no idea how you found that so fast caper, good job!!

Thanks Boingo, I couldn't get that one! :jumpy:

I tried to get the ones that would give us clues to start with...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 08, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
Great job Caper!  I think you hit the nail on the head!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 08, 2010, 07:29:57 PM
Nice! That would probably also explain this:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/SteveandAlliestreet.jpg)

The shop behind is the Bergère de France (http://www.bergeredefrance.fr/vente/magasins.phtml), which isn't found in Lilles. I couldn't get Street View for the Verdun shop, but it is one of the 13 in France, of which Street View can eliminate about 8.

The exact address is 11 bis, Rue Saint-Pierre 55100, Verdun.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 08, 2010, 07:43:04 PM
Notice the blue route marker clue in the pack.

(http://i45.[banned image hosting site].com/10clmqa.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 08, 2010, 07:43:42 PM
Ah, Verdun.

Now a train ride via Frankfurt and Saarsbrucken seems feasible  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 08, 2010, 08:17:53 PM
I believe this could be the bridge that Jordan is running across and it's very close to a huge war cemetery.  But I can't quite pinpoint it on a map.  Maybe the picture will help someone identify the place?

(http://i50.[banned image hosting site].com/wvu5hh.jpg)

(http://i50.[banned image hosting site].com/2m67m0h.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 08:22:05 PM
Nice! That would probably also explain this:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/SteveandAlliestreet.jpg)

The shop behind is the Bergère de France (http://www.bergeredefrance.fr/vente/magasins.phtml), which isn't found in Lilles. I couldn't get Street View for the Verdun shop, but it is one of the 13 in France, of which Street View can eliminate about 8.

The exact address is 11 bis, Rue Saint-Pierre 55100, Verdun.

Here's a view down Rue Saint-Pierre (from Rue Saint-Paul) in Verdun.  Your eyes may be able to spot their location, somewhere on the left.   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 08, 2010, 08:22:49 PM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 08, 2010, 08:23:28 PM
Just in case, here are three other locations that I couldn't eliminate on Street View or Panoramio; the streets of Verdun look too neat!

23, Boulevard de la Rochelle, 55000 Bar de Luc, Meuse, Lorraine
19, Rue de Paris 57100, Thionville, Moselle, Lorraine
7, Avenue Marius Cartier, 52100 St Dizier, Haute-Marne, Champagne-Ardenne

The shops in Metz, Colmar, St Julien les Villas, Troyes and Chalons-en-Champagne can be safely eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2010, 09:13:55 PM
After much fussing with different rail schedules, I found one that gave me something useful. The main connection point for a rail trip from Hamburg to Verdun is Metz. However, the journey from Hamburg to Metz is 7.5 to 11.5 hours and the connection from Metz to Verdun takes an additional 9.5 hours to 16 3/4 hours, I conclude that rail is not feasible for this particular trip.

I believe that teams took a long-distance bus to maybe Metz, Nancy or Luxembourg, then connected to a local bus to go the short remaining distance.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.

The Insider videos this season have given a reasonable amount of info regarding Joe's "cockiness", they are worth watching.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: slayton on March 08, 2010, 09:29:08 PM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.

I agree with you about the description of, presumably, Joe & Heidi as "cocky" as coming out of left field.

The editors tried to do it with saving spots from episode 2 and the "I have a compass" from episode 3, but, other than that, they haven't shown any other substantial footage.

There's always a new insider video every week, where some racer keeps saying that Joe is this, that, and the other thing, but they never show us any footage of this behaviour.  

I don't get it.  Justin from TAR15 tweeted that he and some other racers didn't like Lance while on the race, but they at least showed footage of Lance's weird behaviour.  All I get regarding Joe is talk.

Even if Joe & Heidi survive this elimination, I'm guessing that the U-Turn sets them too far back to make up the difference in the next elimination.

On another note, are Daniel & Jordan the first racers to consistently wear backwards baseball caps on the race?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 08, 2010, 09:36:37 PM
Thanks, Apskip! I'm finding quick 1.5h trains between Metz and Verdun though throughout the day, instead of the 9.5-17h you found. Just for example, a departure from Hamburg at midnight this coming Wednesday morning will get one into Verdun by 2pm the same day...

It's true, though, that the caps make a bus seem likely...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: slpdx on March 08, 2010, 09:51:32 PM
Wow, I come back from an unexpected (but very pleasurable) weekend in Mexico, watch the last night's episode, come to check out what's new and am completely blown away. I have been avid TAR fan since the beginning,  but just started looking sleuthing/spoiler sites this season (I tried to keep it "pure" as long as possible) and I can't believe all the stuff you come with, how quickly you do it, and how accurate you are.   ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU ALL AMAZE ME!!  Thank you for the time you put into it, you've made it fun so far!!

Now onto other things, poor Heidi and Joe, I have a bad, bad feeling for them this week.   Between all the hate from the other Racers, the emphasis on Joe's knee (foreshadowing anyone?  :duno:) and what looks like might actually turn out to be a physically demanding challenge....it might be the end of the line.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 09:54:40 PM
Bus:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/bus.jpg)

So what's with the bikes??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: sses on March 08, 2010, 10:03:27 PM
speed bump ???? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: mswood on March 08, 2010, 10:44:47 PM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.
Sorry I have to disagree with you (and a couple of others), but every episode (or the clips for those episodes) has had some racer (or even his wife) talk about him being either rude, pushy or cocky.  It doesn't seem to be a single isolated instance that is causing teams to have problems with Joe.As for reasons to U-Turn someone if you are going to use this tool are varied.

There are several reasons to U-Turn a team.

1.  You feel they are a threat.
2.  Their very presence annoys the living hell out of you (ofr example I would have Yielded the hell out of Jonathan & Victoria and the Weavers regardless of how good or bad a team I thought they were just because I hated them so much).
3.  You know that team is behind you.

Joe & Heidi are doing ok, but Joe has made no secret that his leg is really bothering him, so I don't know how much of a long term threat I would take them for.  But it is a valid reason.

And we know many teams are upset at him, some are uncomfortable around him (certainly not a glowing recommendation about him), and some have taken personal offense at him.  So clearly a valid reason there.

And of course the third, they might be a team that someone absolutely knows is right behind them.

In season 14 for example it was solely for two reasons (at least what was said, we could ask Luke if their personality had any thing to do with it), knowing that team was behind them, and seeing them as a significant threat.

Her, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done primarily due to team's reactions to Joe himself.  I mean just in the last leg we have two teams say they feel very uncomfortable around him. 
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 08, 2010, 10:48:48 PM
speed bump ???? :duno:

That certainly could be Jeff & Jordan on the bikes, so the Speed Bump is a definite possibility.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 08, 2010, 10:49:15 PM
(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/bikes10.jpg)


Could this be Jeff and Jordan doing the Speed Bump task?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 08, 2010, 11:09:12 PM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.

I agree with you about the description of, presumably, Joe & Heidi as "cocky" as coming out of left field.

The editors tried to do it with saving spots from episode 2 and the "I have a compass" from episode 3, but, other than that, they haven't shown any other substantial footage.

There's always a new insider video every week, where some racer keeps saying that Joe is this, that, and the other thing, but they never show us any footage of this behaviour. 

I don't get it.  Justin from TAR15 tweeted that he and some other racers didn't like Lance while on the race, but they at least showed footage of Lance's weird behaviour.  All I get regarding Joe is talk.

Even if Joe & Heidi survive this elimination, I'm guessing that the U-Turn sets them too far back to make up the difference in the next elimination.

On another note, are Daniel & Jordan the first racers to consistently wear backwards baseball caps on the race?

We can't forget that Joe told another team that they were weak to their face (Allie and Steve), yelled at taxis, bus drivers, and other racers to hurry up, and made some very rude comments to the brothers (namely Jordan).

so yeah, i think it is safe to say that there is some cockiness in there.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 08, 2010, 11:18:27 PM
(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/bikes10.jpg)


Could this be Jeff and Jordan doing the Speed Bump task?

Good thought! There is another cap hiding in there but I haven't been able to get it yet...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: AmazingDT on March 08, 2010, 11:25:59 PM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.

I agree with you about the description of, presumably, Joe & Heidi as "cocky" as coming out of left field.

The editors tried to do it with saving spots from episode 2 and the "I have a compass" from episode 3, but, other than that, they haven't shown any other substantial footage.

There's always a new insider video every week, where some racer keeps saying that Joe is this, that, and the other thing, but they never show us any footage of this behaviour. 

I don't get it.  Justin from TAR15 tweeted that he and some other racers didn't like Lance while on the race, but they at least showed footage of Lance's weird behaviour.  All I get regarding Joe is talk.

Even if Joe & Heidi survive this elimination, I'm guessing that the U-Turn sets them too far back to make up the difference in the next elimination.

On another note, are Daniel & Jordan the first racers to consistently wear backwards baseball caps on the race?

We can't forget that Joe told another team that they were weak to their face (Allie and Steve), yelled at taxis, bus drivers, and other racers to hurry up, and made some very rude comments to the brothers (namely Jordan).

so yeah, i think it is safe to say that there is some cockiness in there.

Um, that was Carol who told Allie and Steve they were weak.  Carol and Brandy are waaaaaaaaaay more annoying than Joe and Heidi.  They offend people and then when they see someone getting offended, they act like they've never done that before.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 08, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.

I agree with you about the description of, presumably, Joe & Heidi as "cocky" as coming out of left field.

The editors tried to do it with saving spots from episode 2 and the "I have a compass" from episode 3, but, other than that, they haven't shown any other substantial footage.

There's always a new insider video every week, where some racer keeps saying that Joe is this, that, and the other thing, but they never show us any footage of this behaviour. 

I don't get it.  Justin from TAR15 tweeted that he and some other racers didn't like Lance while on the race, but they at least showed footage of Lance's weird behaviour.  All I get regarding Joe is talk.

Even if Joe & Heidi survive this elimination, I'm guessing that the U-Turn sets them too far back to make up the difference in the next elimination.

On another note, are Daniel & Jordan the first racers to consistently wear backwards baseball caps on the race?

We can't forget that Joe told another team that they were weak to their face (Allie and Steve), yelled at taxis, bus drivers, and other racers to hurry up, and made some very rude comments to the brothers (namely Jordan).

so yeah, i think it is safe to say that there is some cockiness in there.

Um, that was Carol who told Allie and Steve they were weak.  Carol and Brandy are waaaaaaaaaay more annoying than Joe and Heidi.  They offend people and then when they see someone getting offended, they act like they've never done that before.

 :groan: sorry... got my annoying people confused for a second there...

but, there is still enough to say that he is pretty cocky

just because they don't show his attitude around the others, doesn't mean he doesn't have a bad one
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: ml84 on March 09, 2010, 12:04:46 AM
Could be jeff and jordan.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2010, 12:07:11 AM
Thank you ml84!! and :welcome: to RFF!!


More caps:


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/2010-03-09_003204.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/bikes2.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Allie.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Brandy.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/CarolandBrandydriving2.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Cord.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/three.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/DanandJordan.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/JoeandHeidi.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Jordan.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Louie.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Louiedresses.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/plane.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2010, 01:07:38 AM
Is this Michael??
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Michaelmaybe.jpg)

There is an explosion right after this shot...is this a racer?
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/soldier.jpg)

Is this Louie??
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/who.jpg)

Will this help us find this place?? What IS that??
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/field.jpg)


And I think I have all the good stuff now...thank you Slowhatch for the new toys!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: the_headcrusher on March 09, 2010, 01:43:56 AM
If it helps any, I think I found the museum and airfield the aircraft came from.....but than again I may be way off  :-[

Aircraft is a Fokker DR.1 replica (sadly there are no original DR 1, so everyone is a replica): http://www.edts.info/museum/exponate/fokker-dr-i/ (http://www.edts.info/museum/exponate/fokker-dr-i/)

Museum airfield:http://www.edts.info/der-flugplatz/ (http://www.edts.info/der-flugplatz/)
Museum homepage: http://www.edts.info/startseite/ (http://www.edts.info/startseite/)

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 09, 2010, 02:33:04 AM
I think the real reason why everyone is so upset with Joe (apparently) is his tone of voice. The way he comes across, regardless of his intentions, is perceived to be rude. And he also doesn't smile very much - he seems to be pretty serious most of the time. But I think it's pathetic that a lack of "average" social behavior is taken by many of the other racers to be rudeness. I don't think he's so much of a confrontational person as one who is mistaken for that because of his tone of voice and such.

David: It's very common for racers to yell at or frantically direct cab drivers, so I don't see how this would offend any other team. And as for rude comments to Dan & Jordan, I haven't seen/heard those. When were these? :duno:

But maybe we're all off the mark and they will simply be U-turned because they are strong (as mswood suggested). And then we'll see the rest of the race dominated by Jet & Cord and the U-turning team will realize their mistake. At least this time the dominant team would be an awesome one! :lol:

*Speculation*
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 09, 2010, 05:07:40 AM
now i am wondering who is more 'villain' Joe or TAR6 Jonathan?
I think the real reason why everyone is so upset with Joe (apparently) is his tone of voice. The way he comes across, regardless of his intentions, is perceived to be rude. And he also doesn't smile very much - he seems to be pretty serious most of the time. But I think it's pathetic that a lack of "average" social behavior is taken by many of the other racers to be rudeness. I don't think he's so much of a confrontational person as one who is mistaken for that because of his tone of voice and such.

David: It's very common for racers to yell at or frantically direct cab drivers, so I don't see how this would offend any other team. And as for rude comments to Dan & Jordan, I haven't seen/heard those. When were these? :duno:

But maybe we're all off the mark and they will simply be U-turned because they are strong (as mswood suggested). And then we'll see the rest of the race dominated by Jet & Cord and the U-turning team will realize their mistake. At least this time the dominant team would be an awesome one! :lol:

*Speculation*
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 09, 2010, 06:39:21 AM
Thanks for the previews, everyone! :wohoo:

Not feeling too happy about this episode...it looks like it will be an almost exact repeat of Leg 4 in TAR 14. :P

RACERS BECOME THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY ON A FRENCH BATTLEFIELD WHERE SHORT TEMPERS AND ARROGANCE COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEMISE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 14

"I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France) — A World War I reenactment — complete with air attacks, gunfire and explosions — tests the Racers' nerves, and one Team finds that their cocky attitude may cost them dearly when a Blind U-Turn comes into play, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


What cocky attitude? How is saving a place in line cocky? I can understand claiming to know the subways in LA as maybe being cocky, but what evil thing have they done? This is a severe case of editing creating a non-existent personality. :P

Sorry, the survival of Jeff & Jordan and now this foreboding preview have put me in a bad mood.
Sorry I have to disagree with you (and a couple of others), but every episode (or the clips for those episodes) has had some racer (or even his wife) talk about him being either rude, pushy or cocky.  It doesn't seem to be a single isolated instance that is causing teams to have problems with Joe.As for reasons to U-Turn someone if you are going to use this tool are varied.

There are several reasons to U-Turn a team.

1.  You feel they are a threat.
2.  Their very presence annoys the living hell out of you (ofr example I would have Yielded the hell out of Jonathan & Victoria and the Weavers regardless of how good or bad a team I thought they were just because I hated them so much).
3.  You know that team is behind you.

Joe & Heidi are doing ok, but Joe has made no secret that his leg is really bothering him, so I don't know how much of a long term threat I would take them for.  But it is a valid reason.

And we know many teams are upset at him, some are uncomfortable around him (certainly not a glowing recommendation about him), and some have taken personal offense at him.  So clearly a valid reason there.

And of course the third, they might be a team that someone absolutely knows is right behind them.

In season 14 for example it was solely for two reasons (at least what was said, we could ask Luke if their personality had any thing to do with it), knowing that team was behind them, and seeing them as a significant threat.

Her, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done primarily due to team's reactions to Joe himself.  I mean just in the last leg we have two teams say they feel very uncomfortable around him. 
While I think that any of the above reasons are possible, lets also keep in mind Jordan & Jeff's Speed Bump. Maybe they used the U-Turn at the Detour, to make sure that they could have enough of a lead at the Speed Bump (assuming the Detour is before the Speed Bump).

However, I still think that Dan & Jordan are the likely offenders, or maybe Louie & Michael.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2010, 06:58:51 AM
now i am wondering who is more 'villain' Joe or TAR6 Jonathan

There can be no comparison. Jonathan wa abusive, we have seen no evidence for that.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 09, 2010, 06:59:06 AM
While I think that any of the above reasons are possible, lets also keep in mind Jordan & Jeff's Speed Bump. Maybe they used the U-Turn at the Detour, to make sure that they could have enough of a lead at the Speed Bump (assuming the Detour is before the Speed Bump).

However, I still think that Dan & Jordan are the likely offenders, or maybe Louie & Michael.

In this particular case, where a U-turn is involved, the roadblock usually comes after the detour, which in this case, the Speed Bump comes into play before the detour. (Season 12 Kynt & Vyxsin comes into mind)

I would assume, based on team interaction on previous episodes, that teams would either use the U-turn on Joe & Heidi, Carol & Brandy or Dan & Jordan.

I would personally u-turn Dan & Jordan.


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2010, 07:17:13 AM
So do we think the war is a Detour?? ??? Somehow I wouldn't want to spend a zillion $$ on a task teams might not choose. :duno:

We see Mike and Louie, Dan and Jordan, Steve and Allie, Brandy and Carol, Joe and Heidi, and Jeff  for sure in the war zone.

We see Brent and Caite possibly deciding or reading the clue in a tented area that looks like the WW1 area.

We see JJ running with what looks to be rolls of something...plans?? ??? What is this?

And we don't see  the Cowboys in the war zone...right?? There are still a couple of uniformed people I haven't identified yet...

Who is the third person in this shot? Could it be Carol?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/three.jpg)

But seems to me if the U-Turn is in the War Zone, ALL the teams have to be able to see it...so I am thinking War Zone is NOT a Detour but a task they all have to do...

Maybe the Detour is WITHIN the war zone...we see a cluebox there, we have some teams crawling under barbed wire, some in a explosive area, and there is that sidecar with I think a machine gun housing on it as well...So my guess would be two separate Detours WITHIN the war zone. What exactly, I have no idea. :lol:

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 09, 2010, 08:43:20 AM


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/three.jpg)

But seems to me if the U-Turn is in the War Zone, ALL the teams have to be able to see it...so I am thinking War Zone is NOT a Detour but a task they all have to do...

Maybe the Detour is WITHIN the war zone...we see a cluebox there, we have some teams crawling under barbed wire, some in a explosive area, and there is that sidecar with I think a machine gun housing on it as well...So my guess would be two separate Detours WITHIN the war zone. What exactly, I have no idea. :lol:



I agree with you peach that each part of the Detour is within WWI re-enactment.

I'm still amazed that TAR would set up this tremendous re-enactment instead of this being a regular festival or part of some museum.  Of course we still have a few more days to find more info.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DrRox on March 09, 2010, 09:07:19 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/three.jpg)

Isnt that Cord on the far right? Cant tell if the middle one is Jet.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 09, 2010, 09:15:17 AM
(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/bikes10.jpg)


Could this be Jeff and Jordan doing the Speed Bump task?

Looks more like Steve and Allie to me, cuz Jeff is more muscular and broader on his torso...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 09, 2010, 09:18:13 AM
Isn't this Jet & Cord?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4420184802_3ca631005e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 09, 2010, 09:21:04 AM
I agree that the detour is within the battle area.  Like in TAR 8 they had the Civil War Detour, In the heat of the night - fill kerosene lamps/In the heat of the battle - evacuate wounded soldiers.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: jerseydude on March 09, 2010, 09:30:26 AM
Isn't this Jet & Cord?

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4420184802_3ca631005e_o.jpg)

I believe so.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 09, 2010, 09:34:03 AM
Jet & Cord are definitely at the U-Turn board.  And I agree that the people on the bike look most like Steve & Allie.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 09, 2010, 10:15:37 AM
Speed bump - WW1 era Tour de France
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 09, 2010, 10:36:40 AM
Speed bump - WW1 era Tour de France

Then i don't think Steve & allie would be doing a Speedbump, do you?? Must be JJ then!Arrgghhhh
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 09, 2010, 11:43:59 AM
I think that TPTB might have skimped on costs for some of the other tasks this season because they felt they'd get a lot of usable material out of this setting, The tri-plane pilot and fuel is probably a couple of thousand euros for the day, and they probably spend more than that on extras *"locals") watching or on using airlines for a leg that they just shift to a city for a second leg.

But from the footage they've used in the previews and promos, it looks very eye-catching and visual, so I think that production decision paid off. I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the Emmy episode for this season.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: mswood on March 09, 2010, 12:47:43 PM
Back on Joe

Just because we don't have much showing Joe being an ass, remember that racers see a lot more of them then we ever do.  We get just a small peak into the race.  And both Joe & Heidi have said that he can be cocky and pushy.  Joe even says their biggest weakness will be his mouth.  Now I don't think he is anywhere near the behavior of the worst of the race's history.  But the fact that others say tehy are really uncomfortable around him is really telling.  Hell in one it look like a racer is about to cry over it.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Belle Book on March 09, 2010, 06:44:42 PM
Back on Joe

Just because we don't have much showing Joe being an ass, remember that racers see a lot more of them then we ever do.  We get just a small peak into the race.  And both Joe & Heidi have said that he can be cocky and pushy.  Joe even says their biggest weakness will be his mouth.  Now I don't think he is anywhere near the behavior of the worst of the race's history.  But the fact that others say tehy are really uncomfortable around him is really telling.  Hell in one it look like a racer is about to cry over it.

So, while Joe's not the worst guy in Race history (Wil, Jonathan the Jerk, Lake, Nathan and Lance are all worse than he is), his personality might rub people the wrong way enough that Racers are willing to U-Turn him.  It may not be the main reason, but it sure doesn't help him any.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 09, 2010, 09:36:07 PM
Could be jeff and jordan.

Anyone else notice that one is wearing a white hat in this pic and in previous bike pic both hats are black???  Could it be two teams???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
Hidden cameras?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/duckblind1.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/duckblind2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 09, 2010, 10:23:39 PM
Or a referee post; maybe it's a playfield like the one they found in Kiev.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2010, 10:24:01 PM
Could be jeff and jordan.

Anyone else notice that one is wearing a white hat in this pick and in previous bike pic both hats are black???  Could it be two teams???

Nice caper!! Hope it is not a trick of the light :duno:

Heee...I am thinking KILTS>



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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 10, 2010, 05:27:15 PM
Have we considered airplane from Hamburg to Paris and then TGV to Lille?

If they took the train, shame on TPTB for bypassing Belgium.

Caelestor,
Brussels is the capitol of Belgium and it is clearly part of the train itinerary. The planes might fly around Belgium, but the shortest route for trains between Hamburg and Lille is through Belgium.

By bypass, I meant "not host a leg there." Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: serendipity on March 10, 2010, 07:13:43 PM

But seems to me if the U-Turn is in the War Zone, ALL the teams have to be able to see it...so I am thinking War Zone is NOT a Detour but a task they all have to do...

Maybe the Detour is WITHIN the war zone...we see a cluebox there, we have some teams crawling under barbed wire, some in a explosive area, and there is that sidecar with I think a machine gun housing on it as well...So my guess would be two separate Detours WITHIN the war zone. What exactly, I have no idea. :lol:



Both detour choices must be something within the war zone, otherwise the U-turn will be unfair since the box is set up in the war field. I think it's like TAR14 Leg 4 where they can access to both detour easily and the U-turn box is somewhere between both sites.

Also, it's usual for the producers to put Roadblock after Detour if there's a U-turn, because they have to give the U-turned team a chance to catch up, otherwise they must be last for sure. Same reason for Speed Bump to be at the first of the leg.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 11, 2010, 12:48:28 AM
could the detour be something like "trenches or front-lines"?

we see one team (JJ i believe), walking in what looks to be a trench

and we see several other teams going through an obstacle course of sorts while under "heavy fire"

maybe the trenches are a maze thing where teams have to figure out how to make it to the end, or at least find something in there?

and then the battlefield is an obstacle course where if teams get "hit" (with paint perhaps?) they must start over?

we do hear Jordan (male) say he was "hit".  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 11, 2010, 05:52:17 AM
It will be a mixture of TAR 8 the "Civil War" detour, plus the TAR 13 Russian soldier detour... with a U-turn thrown in...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 11, 2010, 07:08:34 AM
It will be a mixture of TAR 8 the "Civil War" detour, plus the TAR 13 Russian soldier detour... with a U-turn thrown in...
Yeah, it's certainly shaping up that way! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 11, 2010, 10:53:33 AM
I think that the Detour could be BAKE or BIKE.   

In reply #110 we have a quick shot of Michael and Louie walking eating BAGETTES the world famous French Bread a staple of every Frenchman's diet (along with wine, of course.)

In replys #106 and #107 we seem to have scenes of two different BIKE riders symbolic of the world famous bike race THE TOUR DE FRANCE.  Spec is that one team is Steve and Allie the other being Jordan and Jeff.

So the detour represents two famous French activities BAKE or BIKE
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 11, 2010, 12:50:49 PM
Could be jeff and jordan.

Anyone else notice that one is wearing a white hat in this pick and in previous bike pic both hats are black???  Could it be two teams???

Nice caper!! Hope it is not a trick of the light :duno:

Looks like JJ & S/A and I think they are wearing knickers, like the old golf-looking ones..not kilts...

Heee...I am thinking KILTS>



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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 11, 2010, 04:22:55 PM
I thought maybe Louie was quoting from "Apocalypse Now," but the original line is "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."


He is paraphrasing.  Sulfur was the gas of choice during WWI.  Really horrible stuff.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 11, 2010, 04:32:16 PM
Could be jeff and jordan.

Anyone else notice that one is wearing a white hat in this pick and in previous bike pic both hats are black???  Could it be two teams???

Nice caper!! Hope it is not a trick of the light :duno:

Looks like JJ & S/A and I think they are wearing knickers, like the old golf-looking ones..not kilts...

Heee...I am thinking KILTS>


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on opposite sides of the roadway
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 11, 2010, 05:25:31 PM

on opposite sides of the roadway

 :res:  oh, look, magic, now they are on the correct side of the road...  CBS video editors (and TAR detectives) can do wonders when they require the right shot in the previews.  No biggie...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 11, 2010, 05:57:26 PM
That's :hugs: hilarious!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 11, 2010, 09:46:40 PM
I thought maybe Louie was quoting from "Apocalypse Now," but the original line is "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."


He is paraphrasing.  Sulfur was the gas of choice during WWI.  Really horrible stuff.

As I recall the gas of choice in WWI was Chlorine Gas not sulfur.  The other gas which was used mostly by the Germans was Mustard Gas which was much harder to protect against.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2010, 11:23:53 PM
Short promo that aired tonight, pretty much the same as we already have though.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 12, 2010, 01:35:04 AM
I think that the Detour could be BAKE or BIKE.   

In reply #110 we have a quick shot of Michael and Louie walking eating BAGETTES the world famous French Bread a staple of every Frenchman's diet (along with wine, of course.)

In replys #106 and #107 we seem to have scenes of two different BIKE riders symbolic of the world famous bike race THE TOUR DE FRANCE.  Spec is that one team is Steve and Allie the other being Jordan and Jeff.

So the detour represents two famous French activities BAKE or BIKE

I like this idea

both could easily end up at the battlefield for the dreaded U-turn followed by a general WWI task.  No Roadblock maybe?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 12, 2010, 01:54:46 AM
I thought maybe Louie was quoting from "Apocalypse Now," but the original line is "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."


He is paraphrasing.  Sulfur was the gas of choice during WWI.  Really horrible stuff.



As I recall the gas of choice in WWI was Chlorine Gas not sulfur.  The other gas which was used mostly by the Germans was Mustard Gas which was much harder to protect against.



Sulpur mustard was the chemical agent used in shells.  The sulpur provided the distinctive odor.  Thus, Louie's statement.




Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 12, 2010, 05:01:10 AM
Can someone check this site (http://www.cbspres***press.com) for TAR 16 Press Bundles like theschnazers found last season? I can't enter it because its forbidden.  :umn:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2010, 06:33:23 AM
I think that the Detour could be BAKE or BIKE.   

In reply #110 we have a quick shot of Michael and Louie walking eating BAGETTES the world famous French Bread a staple of every Frenchman's diet (along with wine, of course.)

In replys #106 and #107 we seem to have scenes of two different BIKE riders symbolic of the world famous bike race THE TOUR DE FRANCE.  Spec is that one team is Steve and Allie the other being Jordan and Jeff.

So the detour represents two famous French activities BAKE or BIKE

Is this what you think might be a baguette, G-Man? When I brighten it, I wonder if it could be what I was calling rolls of plans? Although here, it almost looks like something rolled in cloth and tied at the end (look at the one over the shoulder). But not sure about a baguette...


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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2010, 06:36:55 AM
Can someone check this site (http://www.cbspres***press.com) for TAR 16 Press Bundles like theschnazers found last season? I can't enter it because its forbidden.  :umn:

puddin watches those uycoccoa.

I checked and only see pics thru 3/8 though, covering last episode.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 12, 2010, 06:42:49 AM
peach, I think g-man is referring to this photo:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/2010-03-09_003204.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2010, 06:52:17 AM
Ohhh.... okay. Still not sure about those rolls of something in the trenches. Ideas about what they are??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 12, 2010, 07:25:52 AM
I thought maybe Louie was quoting from "Apocalypse Now," but the original line is "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."


He is paraphrasing.  Sulfur was the gas of choice during WWI.  Really horrible stuff.



As I recall the gas of choice in WWI was Chlorine Gas not sulfur.  The other gas which was used mostly by the Germans was Mustard Gas which was much harder to protect against.



Sulpur mustard was the chemical agent used in shells.  The sulpur provided the distinctive odor.  Thus, Louie's statement.






Would anyone care to guess what the prime component of mustard gas is? If you guessed chlorine you are correct. Mustard gas is synthesized by treating sulfur dichloride with ethylene:

    SCl2 + 2 C2H4 → (ClCH2CH2)2S
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 12, 2010, 08:28:08 AM
Could the mustache be part of bike uniform task? No one is seen wearing one in the battle vidcaps.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 12, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
Could the mustache be part of bike task uniform?  No one is seen wearing one in the battle vidcaps.

Maurice Garin was the "1st winner" of the Tour de France in 1903 - He was known as well for his handlebar mustache.  (I'm having a hard time linking shortcuts to websites today)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 12, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
I don't know if it was planned "foreshadowing", but in Ep. 4 the teams had to find a statue of Kaiser Wilhelm in Hamburg - the grandfather of the notorious Kaiser Wilhelm II (Kaiser Bill) of WW1 - also know for his mustache...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 12, 2010, 11:26:29 AM
Here is Garin in his little black knickers and white shirt.

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Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 12, 2010, 12:28:58 PM
 :umn:  hmmm... just wondering if the bagette boyz are walking towards the Verdun Monument in the center of town.  Those may be market stall tents.   ;)  or maybe not..  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 12, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
:umn:  hmmm... just wondering if the bagette boyz are walking towards the Verdun Monument in the center of town.  Those may be market stall tents.   ;)  or maybe not..  :lol:

More llamas?!?!  Won't Joe be happy?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: graytex on March 12, 2010, 03:45:54 PM
Do we see Jordan and Jeff in the trenches?  I could only see Jordan, then they flip to Jeff standing around by himself.  Maybe the trench is the roadblock?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: b4us on March 12, 2010, 04:23:13 PM
Do we see Jordan and Jeff in the trenches?  I could only see Jordan, then they flip to Jeff standing around by himself.  Maybe the trench is the roadblock?



I see unknown racer (face obscured) behind Jordan, visible over her shoulder is partial yellow clue, gun, and hat. 
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 12, 2010, 05:56:16 PM
So... The chateau as a HoO, and the Detour as Morse Code versus Crawl, both to get the message "the war is over, people are libertés vive la liberté"? (Doh!)

We need to go back and see if we can get anything out of the Morse code at the beginning of the 'The year... 2010' promo! I think the first letter is ". _ _ ." 'P'?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 12, 2010, 05:59:14 PM
 

CBSTweet: http://twitvid.com/B3B3D - Tensions R rising in the trenches between Brent and Caite/Carol and Brandy. Sneak peek of Sunday's Amazing Race
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 12, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
She says, "The war is over, vive la liberté."
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Boingo on March 12, 2010, 07:08:02 PM
Interesting... why is Caite talking by the chateau?  surely it's not the pitstop...  ...actually they look like they are about to start another this leg :duno:   confessional looks very spartan....
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 12, 2010, 08:31:32 PM
Ohhh.... okay. Still not sure about those rolls of something in the trenches. Ideas about what they are??

Maybe the detectives stopped for a snack (assuming they are in front? :colors)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: nathyn on March 12, 2010, 08:49:20 PM
The trenches are a detour choice? And morse code as the other task?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 12, 2010, 09:41:36 PM
Get ahold of the Jericho folks, they can tell you all about the Morse Code. :)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: NoluckBoston on March 12, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
The trenches are a detour choice? And morse code as the other task?

That's what i thought too when I heard it.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2010, 11:45:05 PM
some caps from the Tensions R rising promo...thanks Sailing for sharing it!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg00.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg01.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg02.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg03.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-12.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-11.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-10.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg04.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-9.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg05.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg07.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-8.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg09.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-7.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg10.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-6.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg11.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-5.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg12.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-4.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg13.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg14.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-3.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-2.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg15.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjp-1.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/Tensions%20R%20rising%20in%20the%20trenches%20caps%20marked/TAR16ep5TensionsRrisingcapswmdjpg16.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 13, 2010, 01:20:43 AM

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/JeffandJordan.jpg)

It looks more like an envelope that a baguette. I believe the detour is Trench or Intelligence. Trench requires a team to crawl through a trench and watch out for "snipers" kind of like the TARA3 roadblock. Intelligence requires a team to do something related to Morse Code...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 13, 2010, 01:52:14 AM
I'm liking this detour.  :tup:

Yes, now I can answer some of those game questions.  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: topaz on March 13, 2010, 06:53:44 AM
do you think this episode is somewhat related to a war movie like Saving Private Ryan, All Quiet on The Western Front or The Hurt Locker? B:)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 13, 2010, 11:29:14 AM


CBSTweet: http://twitvid.com/B3B3D - Tensions R rising in the trenches between Brent and Caite/Carol and Brandy. Sneak peek of Sunday's Amazing Race
Could the detour be Crawl or Code?  Perhaps Brawn or Brain?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 13, 2010, 11:42:57 AM
do you think this episode is somewhat related to a war movie like Saving Private Ryan, All Quiet on The Western Front or The Hurt Locker? B:)

Lots of better World War I theme movies, such as:  A Farewell to Arms, The Fighting 69th, Grand Illusion, Hell's Angels, The Lost Battalion, Paths of Glory, Sergeant York, and What Price Glory?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 13, 2010, 12:22:09 PM
Could the detour be Crawl or Code?  Perhaps Brawn or Brain?

Wire Crawl vs Wire Comms? Barbed Wire vs Telegraph Wire?

Does it look like an overnighter to Verdun, and a staggered start at the chateau?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 13, 2010, 01:00:32 PM
She says, "The war is over, vive la liberté."


- .... . | .-- .- .-. | .. ... | --- ...- . .-. | --..-- | | ...- .. ...- . | .-.. .- | .-.. .. -... . .-. - |

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 13, 2010, 09:43:12 PM
Questions:

Do we have this location matched in GE??
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/town.jpg)


And can we find this spot?? That little hill and white tower seem searchable, :lol:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/TAR16ep5locationwhere.jpg)


And hmmm....
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/roadblockclue.jpg)


Could that mean they have already done the RB?? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 13, 2010, 11:08:05 PM
It could just be an envelope.

Deliver or Decipher?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 14, 2010, 07:03:13 AM

And hmmm....
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/roadblockclue.jpg)


Could that mean they have already done the RB?? ???

What color are the Speed Bump clues?  I did not think they were red.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 14, 2010, 07:05:33 AM
And if the Detour is after the Roadblock, it gives the U-Turned team very little time to overcome their extra "challenge".
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 07:33:10 AM
I think the very large yellow clue in his pocket is the UTurn thing...

But if they are in the Detour and have a RB clue...they they have already done it, right? ???

So speedbump, RB, Detour, UTurn....right?? ???

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 14, 2010, 07:44:46 AM
I'm quite unsure, but I don't think that is a Roadblock clue. It's possible, but I don't think so. Anyone else can clarify? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 14, 2010, 09:20:24 AM
Questions:

Do we have this location matched in GE??
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/town.jpg)


And can we find this spot?? That little hill and white tower seem searchable, :lol:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/TAR16ep5locationwhere.jpg)



The battlefield may not be too far from an airport (for the triplane).

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 14, 2010, 11:22:20 AM
Could the detour be Crawl or Code?  Perhaps Brawn or Brain?

Wire Crawl vs Wire Comms? Barbed Wire vs Telegraph Wire?

Does it look like an overnighter to Verdun, and a staggered start at the chateau?

"DETOUR.  Two important tasks were related to trench warfare during World War One in France. (1) UNDER WIRE and (2) OVER WIRE  In Under Wire teams must crawl one hundred meters on their bellies under a canopy of barbed wire during an artillary barrage and air bombardment. When they have reached their destination, the officer will give them their next clue. A physically challenging task, but if they do not get caught on the pointed barbs, they will complete the task in a short time.  In Over Wire teams must travel across the battle field stringing a line of communication wire from the command post to the observation post, and then using morse code to transmit a message back to the CP.  If the message is transmitted correctly, and the team member can deceiver the coded message, the officer in charge will give them their next clue."
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 11:37:32 AM
i love that G-Man...did you create that or find it somewhere?

And then they could send their Morse code message!

I get the idea that the crawling also involves avoiding being "hit" by the enemy...paint ball??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 14, 2010, 11:40:02 AM
i love that G-Man...did you create that or find it somewhere?

And then they could send their Morse code message!

I get the idea that the crawling also involves avoiding being "hit" by the enemy...paint ball??

I wonder if getting hit by a paint ball means you start the crawl over?!

Great Detour prose gman! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 14, 2010, 11:48:23 AM
i love that G-Man...did you create that or find it somewhere?

And then they could send their Morse code message!

I get the idea that the crawling also involves avoiding being "hit" by the enemy...paint ball??

Just an overactive immagination :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 11:52:36 AM
CBS so needs to hire us!! Good job!! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 14, 2010, 02:07:00 PM
Nice G-man!!!  Peach, that tower has been haunting me all week - impossible to find!! :iok Cannot wait to see how it plays out tonight :bounce
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DianeC on March 14, 2010, 03:09:08 PM
Could the mustache be part of bike uniform task? No one is seen wearing one in the battle vidcaps.



Nope, looks like moustache is just part of the Tour de France:

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/Amazing%20Race%20Games%20Stuff/7_9_5.gif)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 14, 2010, 04:07:16 PM
I think the Biking is transportation to roadblock/pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2010, 07:45:38 PM
Never would have gotten it: Massiges, looking southwest. Main de Massiges is about 1 km north of the village.
(Also, this might set a record for moving the pitstop)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: ZBC Company on March 14, 2010, 07:57:41 PM
no roadblock puddin do mind i do screen shots i want help out
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: YY on March 14, 2010, 07:58:49 PM
Not to gloat, but I love being right. And I love having controversial friends like CL who are right, even if they are outspoken and blunt. Just sayin........
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
We are NOT visiiting this again YY...fair warning.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Neobie on March 14, 2010, 08:12:30 PM
Was I hallucinating, or did the teams check in at the Mairie of something Moulin? Waiting for the videos or quick caps to come up...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 14, 2010, 08:32:41 PM
So I am a bit slow here...NO ROADBLOCK??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: chill_sd on March 14, 2010, 08:38:33 PM
So I am a bit slow here...NO ROADBLOCK??

I wonder if it was edited out, or there just wasn't one.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 14, 2010, 08:40:53 PM
No roadblock. It'd hard to see where it would have been this week, with both the U-Turn and the Speed Bump/

And when were the previous moving pit stops?

I can think of one off-hand -- Switzerland to France TAR 3 (Boat on Lake Geneva). Any others?

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 14, 2010, 08:43:25 PM
No roadblock. It'd hard to see where it would have been this week, with both the U-Turn and the Speed Bump/

And when were the previous moving pit stops?

I can think of one off-hand -- Switzerland to France TAR 3 (Boat on Lake Geneva). Any others?


The boat Pit Stop in Vietnam last season.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 14, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
"DETOUR.  Two important tasks were related to trench warfare during World War One in France. (1) UNDER WIRE and (2) OVER WIRE  In Under Wire teams must crawl one hundred meters on their bellies under a canopy of barbed wire during an artillary barrage and air bombardment. When they have reached their destination, the officer will give them their next clue. A physically challenging task, but if they do not get caught on the pointed barbs, they will complete the task in a short time.  In Over Wire teams must travel across the battle field stringing a line of communication wire from the command post to the observation post, and then using morse code to transmit a message back to the CP.  If the message is transmitted correctly, and the team member can deceiver the coded message, the officer in charge will give them their next clue."

You hit the nail on the near head! Good Job!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 14, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
So I am a bit slow here...NO ROADBLOCK??
I know, what's that all about??? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 14, 2010, 10:29:09 PM
Here's Gilles' place (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=18+Rue+des+Pr%C3%A9s,+Sainte-Menehould,+Marne,+France&sll=49.091792,4.891813&sspn=0.00503,0.013937&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=18+Rue+des+Pr%C3%A9s,+51800+Sainte-Menehould,+Marne,+Champagne-Ardenne,+France&ll=49.091855,4.89177&spn=0.010005,0.027874&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=49.09179,4.891812&panoid=_xbWTvJeE1m23fMKIqrG5A&cbp=12,232.95,,0,16.93); about halfway between the chateau and Massiges.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 14, 2010, 11:18:56 PM
No roadblock. It'd hard to see where it would have been this week, with both the U-Turn and the Speed Bump/

And when were the previous moving pit stops?

I can think of one off-hand -- Switzerland to France TAR 3 (Boat on Lake Geneva). Any others?



It wasn't exactly moving pit stops, rather, teams were transported to another location during the pit stop...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 14, 2010, 11:42:04 PM
Leaderboard as per fifth episode:
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/Evan_Weinstein/TAR16.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 15, 2010, 01:44:07 AM
No roadblock. It'd hard to see where it would have been this week, with both the U-Turn and the Speed Bump/

And when were the previous moving pit stops?

I can think of one off-hand -- Switzerland to France TAR 3 (Boat on Lake Geneva). Any others?



It wasn't exactly moving pit stops, rather, teams were transported to another location during the pit stop...

If the teams arrive at the pit stop in one country, and depart the pit stop in another country or city, then the pit stop was moving. But it does explain how TPTB avoided the possibility of drunk or overly hungoverRacers driving long distance from Germany to France.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 07:14:12 AM
Beautiful leaderboard Evan!! Thanks for doing it!! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 15, 2010, 09:10:46 AM
Anyone agrees?

JOE (of Joe and Heidi from TAR 16) = JAMES (of Survivor Heroes Vs. Villains)

 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 15, 2010, 09:31:26 AM
My estimation of Jeff has soared after this episode. He obviously did his homework before the race by watching European Vacation.
Quote
There goes Big Ben, there goes Parliament...
:lol3:

I have to applaud TPTB for leaving that in. My guess is that most don't get the humour in that line.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Jobby on March 15, 2010, 10:24:39 AM
Okay, i really hate this episode.

I hate episodes where teams placement does not change. I hate it when the teams are U-TURNed to do something that is almost impossible. Kudos for Joe and Heidi for even trying to break the code, BECAUSE.. there is simply NO WAY that i can do something like that and i would have given up on the spot. These two totally showed the asian spirit of not giving up! Another wonderful team eliminated from this season.. i think this is the first season where the teams that i think i like get eliminated 10th, 9th and 8th. Like some curse is going on.

Jeff and Jordan are plain whiney and dumb and the fact that they took over Joe and Heidi's place in the final 7 is ridiculous. And seriously, any team U-TURNed this leg WILL be eliminated because if you KNOW NUTS about MORSE CODE, you will be eliminated. When did the U-TURN turn into a SABOTAGE to ELIMINATE a team instead of HOLDING back a team. Hate the unfairness on TAR and i'm very displeased with this episode.

This episode could have been amazing with the Detour AND ANOTHER ROADBLOCK... because seriously, there really isn't anything to see in this episode. They forced us to spend so much time watching all the different teams crawl over the same spot at the same area over and over again? Some plain cheapskate planning for the race to save money? This is just ridiculous.

Very unhappy with this episode and to think my love for the season just nearly picked up last week. What a way to eliminate a team and it was based on one team's decision. And you can't blame Joe and Heidi for not being able to do morse code. WHICH OF THE OTHER TEAMS KNEW??????????????????????

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res: :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles:

ALL I CAN SAY IS.. KARMA WILL BITE MICHAEL AND LOUIE BACK. Shanna and Jennifer didn't win, Kynt and Vyxsin didn't win, Margie and Luke didn't win... all they can depend on is TAMMY AND VICTOR to give them some luck. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 15, 2010, 12:08:32 PM
Okay, i really hate this episode.

I hate episodes where teams placement does not change. I hate it when the teams are U-TURNed to do something that is almost impossible. Kudos for Joe and Heidi for even trying to break the code, BECAUSE.. there is simply NO WAY that i can do something like that and i would have given up on the spot. These two totally showed the asian spirit of not giving up! Another wonderful team eliminated from this season.. i think this is the first season where the teams that i think i like get eliminated 10th, 9th and 8th. Like some curse is going on.

Jeff and Jordan are plain whiney and dumb and the fact that they took over Joe and Heidi's place in the final 7 is ridiculous. And seriously, any team U-TURNed this leg WILL be eliminated because if you KNOW NUTS about MORSE CODE, you will be eliminated. When did the U-TURN turn into a SABOTAGE to ELIMINATE a team instead of HOLDING back a team. Hate the unfairness on TAR and i'm very displeased with this episode.

This episode could have been amazing with the Detour AND ANOTHER ROADBLOCK... because seriously, there really isn't anything to see in this episode. They forced us to spend so much time watching all the different teams crawl over the same spot at the same area over and over again? Some plain cheapskate planning for the race to save money? This is just ridiculous.



I would have like to see another team try the morse code so that we could get another "take" on the degree of difficulty.

The U-Turn is a very strategic tool in the race.  I agree with Luke's idea that teams need to use the U-Turn to slow down or get rid of their competition.  This is a race ... for 1 million dollars.  Too often the U-Turn is not used by team near the front because the front-runners do not feel they are in danger of being eliminated.

When the Detectives used the Blind Detour, they were hoping to slow Joe down.  They had no idea the other leg of the Detour would take so long.  And the U-Turn was hardly blind as there were only 2 teams ahead of Joe & Heidi.  And the arrived at the clue box with Steve & Allie.

The U-Turn is supposed to shake things up, re-arrange placings and create conflict.  The U-Turn created the most drama in this episode.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 15, 2010, 12:41:06 PM
To be fair, the Morse Code was NOT an impossible task. The transmission sounds were slow, and they had a manual in front of them. As long as they could copy down the transmission and then translate, they would have completed in a reasonable amount of time (less than 2 hours). The fact that nobody ever does the mental task anymore just goes to show the dumbing-down of the cast.

However, the U-turn has become too overpowered and needs to be retired. Not once have I seen a team that has escaped from a U-turn that has been used properly.

As for a Roadblock, enough was going on in the episode anyway. Last leg demonstrated that cramming too many tasks with a lot of teams and a long plane flight does not make for good editing.

Felt this leg was a mix of the 6th and 7th leg in TAR 15.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 15, 2010, 12:45:31 PM
The detour location...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 15, 2010, 01:12:36 PM
Okay, i really hate this episode.

I hate episodes where teams placement does not change. I hate it when the teams are U-TURNed to do something that is almost impossible. Kudos for Joe and Heidi for even trying to break the code, BECAUSE.. there is simply NO WAY that i can do something like that and i would have given up on the spot. These two totally showed the asian spirit of not giving up! Another wonderful team eliminated from this season.. i think this is the first season where the teams that i think i like get eliminated 10th, 9th and 8th. Like some curse is going on.

Jeff and Jordan are plain whiney and dumb and the fact that they took over Joe and Heidi's place in the final 7 is ridiculous. And seriously, any team U-TURNed this leg WILL be eliminated because if you KNOW NUTS about MORSE CODE, you will be eliminated. When did the U-TURN turn into a SABOTAGE to ELIMINATE a team instead of HOLDING back a team. Hate the unfairness on TAR and i'm very displeased with this episode.

This episode could have been amazing with the Detour AND ANOTHER ROADBLOCK... because seriously, there really isn't anything to see in this episode. They forced us to spend so much time watching all the different teams crawl over the same spot at the same area over and over again? Some plain cheapskate planning for the race to save money? This is just ridiculous.



I would have like to see another team try the morse code so that we could get another "take" on the degree of difficulty.

The U-Turn is a very strategic tool in the race.  I agree with Luke's idea that teams need to use the U-Turn to slow down or get rid of their competition.  This is a race ... for 1 million dollars.  Too often the U-Turn is not used by team near the front because the front-runners do not feel they are in danger of being eliminated.

When the Detectives used the Blind Detour, they were hoping to slow Joe down.  They had no idea the other leg of the Detour would take so long.  And the U-Turn was hardly blind as there were only 2 teams ahead of Joe & Heidi.  And the arrived at the clue box with Steve & Allie.

The U-Turn is supposed to shake things up, re-arrange placings and create conflict.  The U-Turn created the most drama in this episode.

I have a different perspective on the use of the U-turn. Most U-turns are used on teams near the back of the pack to eliminate them. The reason is that the front-running teams are inconvenienced by being slowed down, but they seldom find a task that is beyond their capabilities. In the case of Joe and Heidi, they were unlucky because their task was very difficult (underscored by the fact that no other team dared to try it as their DETOUR option). That does not mean that the U-turn can be used effectively to get out leading teams. In all the cases I know where U-turns were used, here are the positions of the teams who were U-turned:

AR12 - Shana/Jennifer #6 U-turned Jason/Lorena #8 (last)
AR12 - Kynt/Vyxsin #3 attempted to U-turn a team ahead of them, Nicolas and Donald, which nullified that U-Turn
AR13 - none
AR14 - Margie/Luke #4 used Blind U-turn on Amanda/Kris #5
AR14 - Tammy/victor #1 U-turned on Kisha/Jen #4
AR15 - none
AR16 - Louis/Michael #1  Blind U-turned Joe/Heidi #3

So, episode 5 of AR16 is the only one where a leading team in fact attempted to use it on another leading team.


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 15, 2010, 01:48:18 PM
Pit Stop - Wargemoulin-Hurlus
You can see the bridge they crossed and just see the church steeple in Google street view.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Nume on March 15, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
I really dont think it was that bad of a 2nd task. Honestly, morse code really isnt that hard. There was no excuse for Joe and Heidi to not be able to figure it out with the immense amount of time they had. They never even got close. All morse code is is dots and dashes, and you could hear the sounds. Its not like there are other options, either its a shot beep or a long beep. I just cant see how they couldnt just write down each series of 4 and figure out the letters, even if in the wrong order, to unscramble it. Remember, this is the same team that thought they could find the gold without counting their steps bc he had a compass.... Anyways still didnt like this leg too much. All of the tasks were simple, and with no group travel to equalize the teams, you can easily see why the order didnt change much other than the u-turn. The only other change was the brothers and the lesbians switching places.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 15, 2010, 04:18:57 PM
I think Joe & Heidi's main problem with the morse code was that they didn't expect a real long message. They tried phrases that begun with T, V and W all of which were words in the correct answer. Maybe they thought it was a shorter one and got further confused.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: slayton on March 15, 2010, 04:43:21 PM
Someone else pointed out that the code was two sentences in two different languages.

It doesn't even seem like they were told what sound was a dot and what sound was a dash.

Doing that with bombs going off around you doesn't seem easy for someone who doesn't know anything about morse code.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 15, 2010, 05:00:58 PM
It doesn't even seem like they were told what sound was a dot and what sound was a dash.

Alas Joe & Heidi knew how it worked, and they were probably on the right track. They probably didn't think it was two sentences.. Still I agree the bombing made it extremely difficult
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DrRox on March 15, 2010, 05:14:18 PM
From his demeanor and his lack of knowledge of Morse Code, Joe was obviously never a Boy Scout.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Nume on March 15, 2010, 05:20:20 PM
I realize that it would take some time, but I just think with the time they had, they should have been able to slowly work out what each letter was in the code. There was noise around them, but the code came through a headset, and I dont think just hearing it was their biggest issue. I'm not saying it was easy, but they had well over 2 hours to get it (2 hours just from their starting times, not counting jordaneff getting lost multiple times and having to do speed bump). I just dont feel that sorry for them, like some ppl seem to. Sure is sucked that they had to do an extra task, but thats part of the game and the task was not impossible. Also on the positive side, I know that Jordaneff will be absolutely no threat to the teams I actually want to do well :P.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 15, 2010, 05:27:25 PM
Okay, i really hate this episode.

I hate episodes where teams placement does not change. I hate it when the teams are U-TURNed to do something that is almost impossible. Kudos for Joe and Heidi for even trying to break the code, BECAUSE.. there is simply NO WAY that i can do something like that and i would have given up on the spot. These two totally showed the asian spirit of not giving up! Another wonderful team eliminated from this season.. i think this is the first season where the teams that i think i like get eliminated 10th, 9th and 8th. Like some curse is going on.

Jeff and Jordan are plain whiney and dumb and the fact that they took over Joe and Heidi's place in the final 7 is ridiculous. And seriously, any team U-TURNed this leg WILL be eliminated because if you KNOW NUTS about MORSE CODE, you will be eliminated. When did the U-TURN turn into a SABOTAGE to ELIMINATE a team instead of HOLDING back a team. Hate the unfairness on TAR and i'm very displeased with this episode.

This episode could have been amazing with the Detour AND ANOTHER ROADBLOCK... because seriously, there really isn't anything to see in this episode. They forced us to spend so much time watching all the different teams crawl over the same spot at the same area over and over again? Some plain cheapskate planning for the race to save money? This is just ridiculous.

Very unhappy with this episode and to think my love for the season just nearly picked up last week. What a way to eliminate a team and it was based on one team's decision. And you can't blame Joe and Heidi for not being able to do morse code. WHICH OF THE OTHER TEAMS KNEW??????????????????????

 :res: :res: :res: :res: :res: :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles:

ALL I CAN SAY IS.. KARMA WILL BITE MICHAEL AND LOUIE BACK. Shanna and Jennifer didn't win, Kynt and Vyxsin didn't win, Margie and Luke didn't win... all they can depend on is TAMMY AND VICTOR to give them some luck. :lol3:

I agree with what you say, and I have to say that that's about how I'm feeling right now. Disgusted about the whole way Joe & Heidi's race was portrayed, and upset that all the first four teams eliminated have been my favorites. I think the only favorites left for me are Steve & Allie and Jet & Cord, and we all know that in a couple episodes yet another one of these will also be gone.

Jeff & Jordan and maybe also Brent & Caite need to go. Brent & Caite are growing on me a little bit, but they don't have enough potential (it seems) to be worth rooting for. And Jeff & Jordan are just wasting everyone's time in the back of the pack. If they had to survive this long, they should at least have been in the middle or front for the duration, so their eventual elimination could be that much more epic. They did not prove in any way that they deserved to remain in the Race with their performance today.

Also, why no Roadblock? It would have given Joe & Heidi a valuable chance to catch up. By planning the U-turn at that task with no Roadblock afterward, the producers seemed to be intending to have a U-turn based elimination. And that's exactly what it turned out to be.

Louie & Michael just wanted to "humble" Joe "a little bit." Well it did just a little more than that, guys. I really hope the karma (on Michael's confessional T-shirt, BTW) comes back to get them. I'm confident it eventually will.

Now I'm pretty sure only 2 or maybe 3 of the other teams could have successfully done the morse code puzzle in those conditions. But all the same, at least it's a mentally challenging task, which is important to have in an increasingly dumbed-down race these days. Too bad we don't have any difficult physical challenges. And sadly, we still have teams complaining about the easy physical tasks such as crawling in the dirt. It's a race. You applied to do it (or at least I sincerely hope you did). Don't complain about something reasonably easy that any average person in decent physical condition could do.

I thought the war setup was intriguing, but not Race-worthy material. The race needs to feature REAL tasks, without the elaborately staged settings. You could just do that in a studio if it's so important to feature it (which to honest Race viewers it's really not).

Joab, you're not the only one on this sinking boat. This is similar to what happened to me in TAR 14. All the teams I wanted to root for fell out in the first five eliminations. It was lousy. And in TAR 15, beyond Zev & Justin and Gary & Matt, there weren't many teams for me to root for anyway.  I was "forced" to root for Meghan & Cheyne. They were too bland, but at least they were likable. I think from this point on when I watch TAR I will just have to do it without rooting for any teams at all, in other words, from an objective standpoint. It's the only way to not be disappointed. :P

Not really appreciating or "getting" the enthusiasm for all the changes going on in these recent seasons. I'd really prefer things to be more the way they once were (before Season 11. That's right. Radical step "backward", but a necessary one.). And I sincerely hope this is not going to be the Emmy episode for this year. Go the first Prague leg of last season, instead. Much more traditional, quality TAR, although the teams left were somewhat boring.

Joab: Your reaction is essentially my reaction to this as well. But I've decided to make my posts quieter and more objective from here onward, in the interest of not provoking heated debate. Essentially, I'm trying to turn over a new leaf. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 15, 2010, 06:37:55 PM
Detours are more fun when they are "balanced" in the number of teams that take them.  It would have been cool if 4 teams crawled and 4 teams did Morse code.  But teams are smarter these days and realize one of the Detours is faster, and usually scarier.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 15, 2010, 06:48:45 PM
Hooky, you need to make another rant thread so that you can organize your many complaints. :lol3:

I for one liked the tasks this week, since they were somewhat rooted in history. As for "staged," that's a really broad definition and can encompass a majority of the tasks. Do you mean you don't like tasks with a bunch of actors?

I hated the U-turn placement, though. No way to catch up if there's no roadblock!  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: cowboybob on March 15, 2010, 06:54:46 PM
You can try out your Morse code skills by checking this website. I found it not that difficult.
http://www.glassgiant.com/geek/morse/ :jam:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 15, 2010, 07:14:31 PM
:welcome: to RFF, cowboybob!   :rodeo

Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 16, 2010, 07:53:42 AM
Uh-oh. To all the teams who hate TAR and this episode, you only got one choice: STOP WATCHING IT!  :res:

Too much complain? STOP WATCHING IT.  :res:
You are complaining TOO MUCH you think you can make another race based on your taste.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Coutzy on March 16, 2010, 08:29:01 AM
Personally I love the linear legs, finally we see the teams that have worked their way to the front get some sort of advantage for it. And the teams at the back have to bust their asses to get back in the game, which Brent and Caite tried to do, albeit badly, but I liked their spirit.

The whole point of the U-Turn is to sabotage other teams, and while I think they picked the wrong targets, given Joe's bad knee and how much that was likely to impact on their performance, it was the perfect time to play it. If I had finished the Detour first and known that their was a very challenging, if not impossible other side, my first thought would be who to U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: alittlebird on March 16, 2010, 09:49:03 AM
You can't blame Joe & Heidi for not being able to do morse code?  Seriously?  Then I can't blame Mika for not being able to go down a slide?

A challenge is supposed to be just that; when everyone can do it, it isn't much of one.  And morse code?  It should have been doable.  Watching them struggle made me so proud of the thousands of soldiers who managed to get messages right in the middle of a REAL battlefield.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 16, 2010, 11:17:28 AM
Personally I love the linear legs, finally we see the teams that have worked their way to the front get some sort of advantage for it. And the teams at the back have to bust their asses to get back in the game, which Brent and Caite tried to do, albeit badly, but I liked their spirit.

The whole point of the U-Turn is to sabotage other teams, and while I think they picked the wrong targets, given Joe's bad knee and how much that was likely to impact on their performance, it was the perfect time to play it. If I had finished the Detour first and known that their was a very challenging, if not impossible other side, my first thought would be who to U-Turn.

Louis and Michael had their pick of any team. I think they wasted it on Joe and Heidi when they could have given some trouble and time loss(although not guaranteed elimination) to Jet/Cord. I would have Blind U-turned Jet/Cord if placed at that Blind U-turn station. The appear to me to be the strongest team in the competition and Joe/Heidi were not going to last much longer; as soon as a major physical task required Joe to do heavy work, he would have been done in by his knee regardless of his macho and bravado. I have 2 knees soon to undergo complete replacement, so I know what he must have felt like.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Dånooky on March 16, 2010, 11:55:34 AM
Personally I love the linear legs, finally we see the teams that have worked their way to the front get some sort of advantage for it. And the teams at the back have to bust their asses to get back in the game, which Brent and Caite tried to do, albeit badly, but I liked their spirit.

The whole point of the U-Turn is to sabotage other teams, and while I think they picked the wrong targets, given Joe's bad knee and how much that was likely to impact on their performance, it was the perfect time to play it. If I had finished the Detour first and known that their was a very challenging, if not impossible other side, my first thought would be who to U-Turn.

Louis and Michael had their pick of any team. I think they wasted it on Joe and Heidi when they could have given some trouble and time loss(although not guaranteed elimination) to Jet/Cord. I would have Blind U-turned Jet/Cord if placed at that Blind U-turn station. The appear to me to be the strongest team in the competition and Joe/Heidi were not going to last much longer; as soon as a major physical task required Joe to do heavy work, he would have been done in by his knee regardless of his macho and bravado. I have 2 knees soon to undergo complete replacement, so I know what he must have felt like.
Still, let's consider that the policemen U-turning the cowboys wouldn't have caused as much controversy and discussions among fans. It was dramatic gold.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 16, 2010, 02:06:45 PM
I think if they U-Turned the cowboys more teams would have been mad at Mike and Louie. Remember it wasn't just the detectives Joe pissed off. They did the other teams a favor by getting rid of Joe. Plus Heid and Joe came in 3rd twice and were running a strong race despite Joe's knee.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Caelestor on March 16, 2010, 03:35:48 PM
Uh-oh. To all the teams who hate TAR and this episode, you only got one choice: STOP WATCHING IT!  :res:

Too much complain? STOP WATCHING IT.  :res:
You are complaining TOO MUCH you think you can make another race based on your taste.

Let's be fair to everybody's own opinions. Mostly, people are mad because one of their favorite teams is out at the expense of another.

Slightly off-topic: Interestingly, all three minority teams are out so early. Doesn't this seem slightly reminiscent of an earlier season? (Hint: it ends with 0)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 16, 2010, 03:46:58 PM
Uh-oh. To all the teams who hate TAR and this episode, you only got one choice: STOP WATCHING IT!  :res:

Too much complain? STOP WATCHING IT.  :res:
You are complaining TOO MUCH you think you can make another race based on your taste.

I watch because there is no other show quite like this. I'm not going to back out just because of this episode. But overall it is losing what once made it feel original, so maybe I will in the near future. :(

Hooky, you need to make another rant thread so that you can organize your many complaints. :lol3:

I for one liked the tasks this week, since they were somewhat rooted in history. As for "staged," that's a really broad definition and can encompass a majority of the tasks. Do you mean you don't like tasks with a bunch of actors?

I mean all the tasks that are just these big "scenes" set up in the middle of a place that would otherwise have absolutely nothing there. In other words, a normally non-existent setting created just to feature certain tasks. For example, the Gypsy Moves Detour of TAR 14, the Japanese Game Show of TAR 15, the ducks of TAR 15, and the French War of TAR 16. Instead of spending all that money on building a place to feature a certain task, the task designers should search out certain places and then choose a task to feature that can already be done at those places. No low-budget staging expenses necessary. This is how seasons before TAR 14 created their tasks. Why did things change?

I just have to ask: Why go to a foreign country if you're just going to set up a location or setting that wasn't already there? Just do it in the CBS studio if you want that so badly (that would be a fun race). :lol:

Hooky, you need to make another rant thread so that you can organize your many complaints. :lol3:

You know what happened the last time I did that. :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 16, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
I mean all the tasks that are just these big "scenes" set up in the middle of a place that would otherwise have absolutely nothing there. In other words, a normally non-existent setting created just to feature certain tasks. For example, the Gypsy Moves Detour of TAR 14, the Japanese Game Show of TAR 15, the ducks of TAR 15, and the French War of TAR 16. Instead of spending all that money on building a place to feature a certain task, the task designers should search out certain places and then choose a task to feature that can already be done at those places. No low-budget staging expenses necessary. This is how seasons before TAR 14 created their tasks. Why did things change?

I just have to ask: Why go to a foreign country if you're just going to set up a location or setting that wasn't already there? Just do it in the CBS studio if you want that so badly (that would be a fun race). :lol:

You know what happened the last time I did that. :knuckles:

In this case this was an actual battlefield that had been preserved - Le Mains de Massiges wasn't created specifically for this task. You can't throw a crêpe very far in this part of France and not hit a WWI memorial or battlefield. It is appropriate and reflective of the culture there to include a WWI re-enactment - just as crêpe making would be. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 16, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
I mean all the tasks that are just these big "scenes" set up in the middle of a place that would otherwise have absolutely nothing there. In other words, a normally non-existent setting created just to feature certain tasks. For example, the Gypsy Moves Detour of TAR 14, the Japanese Game Show of TAR 15, the ducks of TAR 15, and the French War of TAR 16. Instead of spending all that money on building a place to feature a certain task, the task designers should search out certain places and then choose a task to feature that can already be done at those places. No low-budget staging expenses necessary. This is how seasons before TAR 14 created their tasks. Why did things change?

I just have to ask: Why go to a foreign country if you're just going to set up a location or setting that wasn't already there? Just do it in the CBS studio if you want that so badly (that would be a fun race). :lol:

You know what happened the last time I did that. :knuckles:

In this case this was an actual battlefield that had been preserved - Le Mains de Massiges wasn't created specifically for this task. You can't throw a crêpe very far in this part of France and not hit a WWI memorial or battlefield. It is appropriate and reflective of the culture there to include a WWI re-enactment - just as crêpe making would be. :lol:

OK, thanks! My mistake.

It wasn't a bad task, it just got ruined by what happened with Joe & Heidi being stuck there.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 16, 2010, 04:13:04 PM
One thing people have to keep in mind -- there was no guarantee that Joe and Heidi would not have been eliminated even if Louie and Michael hadn't used the U-Turn. I can't imagine how Joe could have used the bike with his foot being as painful and difficult to use as it was. (His only option would have been to walk (with the bike) the four kilometers and that might have still been deemed a violation of Race rules requiring a penalty for not following the directions in the clue.

Teams some people like or even many prople have liked have been eliminated because of a task in the past. To quote another show's best known line "All this has happened before, and will happen again."
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Sailing on March 16, 2010, 04:34:46 PM
How many miles was the bike ride to the Pit Stop?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: alittlebird on March 16, 2010, 04:42:06 PM
4 miles (or maybe km, I can't remember) - but that means Brent & Caite did 12 and still weren't eliminated.  Quite the comeback.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: serendipity on March 16, 2010, 08:55:52 PM
You can try out your Morse code skills by checking this website. I found it not that difficult.
http://www.glassgiant.com/geek/morse/ :jam:

Thanks for the link! I tried to key in the message to decode in the race, and it's so confusing!

I don't know if the set up is like this, but I think the problem is that Joe/Heidi did not expect the message to be that long, and I wonder if they knew where to start and end a message because we kept hearing the code in this leg without start and end, this would further confuse them for the task.

In fact, when you watched the show, you can see that Joe/Heidi partly guessed the correct direction of the message, they thought it would be the same as the other detour option at first (Viva la liberte or The war is over), and then they tried to change it to phrases similar (victoire), I think the problem is that they didn't expect the message to be the same format as the one in another detour option (one English phrase + one French phrase).

I think this task is fine, but it's better to be a Roadblock because all teams just skipped that task immediately as the level difficulty of both tasks were so large, I just wonder if Brandy could manage to do that... :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 16, 2010, 09:27:14 PM
Quote
4 miles (or maybe km, I can't remember)
That's about right--4 miles, give or take. Although the pitstop sign said Verdun, the mayor said--my French is lousy, but I think he said Wargemoulin. At least the buildings seem to match.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 17, 2010, 07:53:14 AM
Quote
4 miles (or maybe km, I can't remember)
That's about right--4 miles, give or take. Although the pitstop sign said Verdun, the mayor said--my French is lousy, but I think he said Wargemoulin. At least the buildings seem to match.

The matt was at Wargemoulin... http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21726.msg515136.html#msg515136 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21726.msg515136.html#msg515136)
I can't figure out where the racers spent the night though. As far as I can see there is no place to stay in Wargemoulin and their cars that they use in the next episode were back in Massiges somewhere.
In the post race interviews they show the racers in front of a fireplace with "Espace Bernadette Poncelette" written above it - but that doesn't lead me to any obvious hotels in the area.
Could we have a moving pit stop again?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DrRox on March 17, 2010, 08:04:49 AM
It's only 40 miles/60 km from Wargemoulin to Rheims............so doesn't sound good for a moving pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 17, 2010, 08:09:51 AM
One thing people have to keep in mind -- there was no guarantee that Joe and Heidi would not have been eliminated even if Louie and Michael hadn't used the U-Turn. I can't imagine how Joe could have used the bike with his foot being as painful and difficult to use as it was. (His only option would have been to walk (with the bike) the four kilometers and that might have still been deemed a violation of Race rules requiring a penalty for not following the directions in the clue.


If Joe had made it to the bicycles, walking with a bike would have been allow because it is actually slower (its own penalty).  Joe sitting on a bike and pedaling with one foot would be faster than walking.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: DrRox on March 17, 2010, 08:18:39 AM
Personally, I think it would have been easier for Joe to ride the bike 4 miles than walk 4 miles. On the bike, he would not have to support his weight on that bad knee. He might not have gone very fast, but I think it would have been less stress on that bad knee. But that is just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2010, 08:42:24 AM
Quote
4 miles (or maybe km, I can't remember)
That's about right--4 miles, give or take. Although the pitstop sign said Verdun, the mayor said--my French is lousy, but I think he said Wargemoulin. At least the buildings seem to match.

The matt was at Wargemoulin... http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21726.msg515136.html#msg515136 (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21726.msg515136.html#msg515136)
I can't figure out where the racers spent the night though. As far as I can see there is no place to stay in Wargemoulin and their cars that they use in the next episode were back in Massiges somewhere.
In the post race interviews they show the racers in front of a fireplace with "Espace Bernadette Poncelette" written above it - but that doesn't lead me to any obvious hotels in the area.
Could we have a moving pit stop again?

From the special thanks I got this:

http://www.letulipier.com/

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%205%20France/TAr16ep5hotellocation.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2010, 01:08:47 PM
hotel conference room and confessional location:

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2010, 04:49:23 PM
Do y'all see what I see??  ???


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Hmmmmmm.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/thereitisagain.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: caper on March 17, 2010, 05:29:00 PM
Is that a roadblock?????   :wtf:
Do y'all see what I see?? ???


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Hmmmmmm.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/thereitisagain.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 17, 2010, 08:25:46 PM
hotel conference room and confessional location

I'd definitely call that a match.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 17, 2010, 09:43:14 PM
NVM on the RB thing.... Not sure what it is, but not a RB clue.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Hooky on March 17, 2010, 09:59:34 PM
Looks more like a mini-notebook. Wonder if it had any purpose? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 17, 2010, 10:01:58 PM
My guess: all the teams were issued a code manual with their uniforms, no matter which Detour they chose.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: gator27 on March 18, 2010, 07:06:27 AM
Do y'all see what I see??  ???


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Hmmmmmm.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/thereitisagain.jpg)
My guess: all the teams were issued a code manual with their uniforms, no matter which Detour they chose.

Thanks to Slowhatch, I think it is a code book in Cord's pocket.  It seems that a TAR clue is too big to fit into a front pocket like that.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 18, 2010, 08:00:54 AM
So I am a bit slow here...NO ROADBLOCK??

I wonder if it was edited out, or there just wasn't one.

There wasn't one. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Ruth on March 18, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
Wow, I must say it sucks for Joe and Heidi to go out this way. Having been such a strong team for the past few legs and ultimately falling victims to a U-turn. And I must say, that morse code Detour was no easy task was it. I don't know, but I feel that Mike and Louie need not have U-turned them. They were in such good position, they could have saved it for future legs. Oh well.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2010, 11:18:36 AM
Wow, I must say it sucks for Joe and Heidi to go out this way. Having been such a strong team for the past few legs and ultimately falling victims to a U-turn. And I must say, that morse code Detour was no easy task was it. I don't know, but I feel that Mike and Louie need not have U-turned them. They were in such good position, they could have saved it for future legs. Oh well.

You can't "save" a Blind U-turn for future legs as this is no impact on your ability to use a regular U-turn as a result of using a Blind U-turn. They are separate and distinct.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 25, 2010, 09:08:28 PM
Slideshow :waves:


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP5: "I Think We're Fighting the Germans, Right?" (France)
Post by: Cocoa on March 26, 2010, 12:07:39 AM
So I am a bit slow here...NO ROADBLOCK??

I wonder if it was edited out, or there just wasn't one.

There wasn't one. :tup:

To solidify that there is no Roadblock: Jordan (not the dumb one) told us that he did 1 Roadblock while Dan did 3. This means there were 4 Roadblocks before the Slice-the-Bottle Roadblock.