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Title: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2010, 08:57:56 AM
I'll hope this thread can fade into oblivion and never be needed again. But meanwhile, piecing bits together:

SANTIAGO, Chile – A massive 8.8-magnitude earthquake struck Chile early Saturday, killing at least 78 people, collapsing buildings and setting off a tsunami.

The quake hit 200 miles (325 kilometers) southwest of Santiago, at a depth of 22 miles (35 kilometers) at 3:34 a.m. (0634 GMT; 1:34 a.m. EST), the U.S. Geological Survey reported.

The epicenter was just 70 miles (115 kilometers) from Concepcion, where more than 200,000 people live along the Bio Bio river, and 60 miles (95 kilometers) from the ski town of Chillan, a gateway to Andean ski resorts that was destroyed in a 1939 earthquake.

In the capital, Santiago airport was shut down and will remain closed for at least the next 24 hours, airport director Eduardo del Canto said. The passenger terminal has suffered major damage, he told Chilean television in a telephone interview. TV images show smashed windows, partially collapsed ceilings and pedestrian walkways destroyed.

In Concepcion, nurses and residents pushed some of the injured through the streets on stretchers. Others walked around in a daze wrapped in blankets, some carrying infants in their arms.

The quake shook buildings as far away as Argentina. A series of strong aftershocks rocked Chile's coast, from Valdivia in the south to Valparaiso 500 miles to the north. The epicentre was 70 miles from Concepcion, Chile's second largest city, with a population of about 670,000.

He said a 1.3-metre tsunami wave was observed at Valparaiso about 20 minutes after the earthquake.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2010, 09:11:11 AM
From the Media thread:

Didn't know where to put this....just something of interest...A 8.3 earthquake just struck near Concepcion, Chili.  Concepcion is about about mid-way between Santiago and Puerta Varas and about 40ish miles east from the main highway connecting the two cities

damn!  And I heard that news right now on cnn and bbc.  Hopefully, Phil will make an announcement for the condolences of the Chile earthquake this Sunday on the 3rd episode of TAR 16 just like what he did on Sri Lanka after the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.  We'll pray for the safety of the Chileans. :(

and here's the news from bbc online: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8540289.stm


:(  the TAR curse strikes again?

Huge earthquake rocks Chile - story here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100227/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_chile_earthquake)


(http://i50.[banned image hosting site].com/317gnzl.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 27, 2010, 10:01:37 AM
And now its listed as a 8.8 scale earthquake, that has generated tsunami waves of 8 feet in a coastal area of Chile near the epicenter....and tsunami warnings have been issued for Samoa and Hawaii. Samoa was struck by a destructive tsunami a few months ago.

This one barely gets into the actual TAR curse (natural disaster that struck an area where TAR was filmed after filming and before airing.)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: slpdx on February 27, 2010, 10:11:39 AM
Wow, woke up find the quake was upgraded to 8.8 and a tsunami followed.  The video that is getting through now is amazing, my heart goes to the people of Chili.  A little perspective the Haiti quake was 7.0 and the Sumatran quake that triggered the massive tsunami was 9.1  Southern Chili also suffered a 9.5 quake in 1960.  Due to the location of the quake (off shore),  type of building construction and a more functional government/economy, hopefully and thankfully the damage will not be as widespread and devastating as Haiti.

All joking aside, If I was on a tourism board, I might think twice before allowing TAR or Survivor to film in my country. Sri Lanka, New Orleans, Chili, Vanuatu, Samoa
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2010, 11:13:50 AM
from CBS:

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on February 27, 2010, 11:16:29 AM
i heard that tusmis are going hat island sucj as japan philphens and couple about cry
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Chateau d If on February 27, 2010, 11:42:05 AM
Well, should I go down to the Santa Monica Pier? 

File:2010 Chile earthquake NOAA tsunami projection 2010-02-27.jpg (http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/File:2010_Chile_earthquake_NOAA_tsunami_projection_2010-02-27.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/2010_Chile_earthquake_NOAA_tsunami_projection_2010-02-27.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
whooooo....   :ascared
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on February 27, 2010, 12:09:52 PM
Once again, my heart goes out to all the survivors and victims.

On another note... TAR visits too many countries.. that's why it seems as though it's a "TAR Disaster Curse".
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2010, 12:15:41 PM
No such thing as too many countries.   :tup:

This is going to be bad...there are fires in Valparaiso due to gas leaks.

Once again, my heart goes out to all the survivors and victims.



That says it all.  :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Chateau d If on February 27, 2010, 12:17:09 PM
From NOAA (http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/2010/02/27/725245/07/webeta725245-07.txt)


Quote
Estimated times of initial tsunami arrival:

DART 46412                                      1144  PST FEB 27    1944 UTC FEB 27
La Jolla, California                            1202  PST FEB 27    2002 UTC FEB 27
the California-Mexico border                    1204  PST FEB 27    2004 UTC FEB 27
Newport Beach, California                       1212  PST FEB 27    2012 UTC FEB 27
San Pedro, California                           1215  PST FEB 27    2015 UTC FEB 27
Point Concepcion, California                    1217  PST FEB 27    2017 UTC FEB 27
Santa Monica, California                        1225  PST FEB 27    2025 UTC FEB 27
Santa Barbara, California                       1231  PST FEB 27    2031 UTC FEB 27
Point Sur, California                           1232  PST FEB 27    2032 UTC FEB 27
Port San Luis, California                       1235  PST FEB 27    2035 UTC FEB 27
Monterey, California                            1243  PST FEB 27    2043 UTC FEB 27
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2010, 12:19:07 PM
NOT the time to have lunch on the pier. San Fran okay??
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: AmazingDT on February 27, 2010, 01:53:41 PM
well Chile is in a seismic zone, im sure they were well prepared

its hard to be positive when a huge earthquake occurs
i pray for the familes who lost their loved ones
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Sailing on February 27, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
HenryRothenberg: 6.0 earthquake just hit Argentina killing atleast 2
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Boingo on February 27, 2010, 04:10:18 PM
 
:ascared First a giant earthquake and now ominous tsunami signs in Hawaii.  :rfth:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100227/ap_on_re_us/quake_tsunami
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Sailing on February 27, 2010, 05:02:48 PM
http://gblsharing.app.aol.com/pop-up/


(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/20112010.jpg)

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/chile-10.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Snooky on February 27, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
There are some tsunami threats at Hawaii, but luckily the house is in the hills. XD
The news says that there aren't any more warnings though.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on February 27, 2010, 08:10:49 PM
i scraed winter in north and tansumi all over i do want die good please change are world
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Snooky on February 27, 2010, 10:23:40 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awnKEM1ymFhg&pos=9
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on February 27, 2010, 10:31:30 PM
i heard manlia is going be one them
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 27, 2010, 10:51:51 PM
For the record, and as I understand it, the "disaster curse" only when a natural disaster takes places after filming, and before that leg airs. Thus, this is the third time it's happened. (Katrina - TAR 8 - 2005 and The Great Sumatra Tsunami hitting Sri Lanka -TAR 6 - 2004/5. It's only because the teams are departing central Chile at the beginning of this coming Sunday's episode that it fits in. (I wonder if CBS will get Phil to narrate something to use by tomorrow night.)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: nathandg0924 on February 27, 2010, 11:38:23 PM
Whoa! :ascared
I pray for the victims of the earthquake I know that this is going to be a difficult time for them :(

This is bad, but I think that this is just a coincidence that this happened (The Amazing Race leg being aired and that disaster happens after the filming)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2010, 12:01:24 AM
For the record, and as I understand it, the "disaster curse" only when a natural disaster takes places after filming, and before that leg airs. Thus, this is the third time it's happened. (Katrina - TAR 8 - 2005 and The Great Sumatra Tsunami hitting Sri Lanka -TAR 6 - 2004/5. It's only because the teams are departing central Chile at the beginning of this coming Sunday's episode that it fits in. (I wonder if CBS will get Phil to narrate something to use by tomorrow night.)

I have never heard anything except when there is a problem after filming....who made up those "rules" ?? :duno:

But really of course there is no curse, but hopefully we can all do something to help our host countries who are suffering.

And Snooky, glad you are safe!! Please keep us posted...I am counting noses this weekend. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on February 28, 2010, 12:59:09 AM
God bless Chile now, and also Japan
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2010, 01:06:35 AM
 "The Amazing Race" host Phil Keoghan is taping a special opening to Sunday night's edition of "The Amazing Race," in which he'll acknowledge Friday night's massive earthquake in Chile.

more here:
http://weblogs.variety.com/on_the_air/2010/02/sundays-amazing-race-to-acknowledge-the-chile-earthquake.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 28, 2010, 01:12:05 AM
Here's why I said what I said.  The only two previous times Phil has filmed a last-minute special opening was for the Sri Lanka episodes in TAR 6, and the New Orleans episodes in TAR 8, and now this weekend for Chile. Which were the three examples I mentioned. (Unfortunately the writer for Variety wasn't aware of the Katrina/New Orleans episode(s).

And of course, it's not really a curse, but these have been three of the most intense natural disasters since the show first aired; not to mention that the very first episode ever, starting in New York City, aired six days before 9/11.

But it is a weird set of coincidences, nonetheless.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on February 28, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
another coincidence is all 3 TAR seasons were involved in even seasons (TAR6, TAR8 and TAR16)
Here's why I said what I said.  The only two previous times Phil has filmed a last-minute special opening was for the Sri Lanka episodes in TAR 6, and the New Orleans episodes in TAR 8, and now this weekend for Chile. Which were the three examples I mentioned. (Unfortunately the writer for Variety wasn't aware of the Katrina/New Orleans episode(s).

And of course, it's not really a curse, but these have been three of the most intense natural disasters since the show first aired; not to mention that the very first episode ever, starting in New York City, aired six days before 9/11.

But it is a weird set of coincidences, nonetheless.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Neobie on March 02, 2010, 08:58:19 PM
But LA hasn't been hit by a disaster yet!

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f166/bones2jack/Paris%20Hilton/ParisHilton_Caulfield_8572072.jpg)

Oh.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DavidJunior on March 03, 2010, 12:01:53 PM
i think this season's getaway prizes are what's cursed...

the Vancouver skeleton run on leg 1, airing right after that horrible accident.

the trip to Chile and Patagonia on leg 3, airing right after the major earthquake in that region.

what next?  all the vehicles teams win turn out to be lemons?  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 03, 2010, 12:28:08 PM
:lol:, take it easy dude
i think this season's getaway prizes are what's cursed...

the Vancouver skeleton run on leg 1, airing right after that horrible accident.

the trip to Chile and Patagonia on leg 3, airing right after the major earthquake in that region.

what next?  all the vehicles teams win turn out to be lemons?  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on March 04, 2010, 06:16:26 AM
nother race course twain has stike with nother earthquake but no body has been kill
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on June 16, 2010, 06:37:24 PM
Oh dear.....

COX'S BAZAR, Bangladesh — Rescuers recovered four more bodies buried in mud Wednesday, raising the death toll from powerful landslides in southeastern Bangladesh to 53.

Triggered by heavy rains, the powerful mudslides struck a coastal area Tuesday, burying thatched homes and cutting off thousands in the southern coastal district of Cox's Bazar and the nearby district of Bandarban.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5if_unlv_vfRScImFAR_LrbN_84hwD9GC9RA00


DHAKA, Bangladesh — An electrical explosion plunged a neighborhood of Bangladesh's capital in darkness and ignited a shop of flammable chemicals, creating a massive inferno that killed at least 117 -- including 15 members of a wedding party -- and injured more than 100 others.

The country's worst fire in recent memory began Thursday night in the narrow alleys of the old section of Dhaka, crammed with new additions to decades-old buildings, when an electrical transformer exploded soon after a rainstorm swept the city, police officer Abul Kalam said.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100604/bangladesh-fire-100604/20100604?hub=TopStoriesV2
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Vega on June 17, 2010, 08:12:58 AM
It seems more like a world curse. Has anyone noticed that there have been a lot of natural disasters recently? With earthquakes in Haiti and Chile and the volcano in Iceland among other disasters, there seems to be a ton of them. Add to that a man-mad caused natural disaster with the oil spill in the Gulf and it just gets worse. I guess the next thing will be wild fires in the West, flooding in the Midwest and hurricanes coming in the East.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on June 17, 2010, 08:42:18 AM
It's just a sign that Mother Earth needs our extreme help. And There's no "TAR Disaster Curse" IMO.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on June 17, 2010, 02:16:34 PM
Bangladesh seems to have more natural disasters that almost anywhere else on Earth.

Floods, tropical cyclones, and monsoons are constant occurrences. If anything, I would hope that TAR's apparent visit would give those people a break from all of their disasters.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: apskip on June 20, 2010, 07:29:16 AM
Yeah, but with a Bangladesh population estimated in mid-2008 to be 153,546,896 (look how precise they estimators are!), it has the 7th largest population in the world. Only a few of them could have seen Amazing RAce teams in action.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on June 20, 2010, 07:33:38 AM
Floods are now in Guilin, China. :( :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: inomu on November 24, 2010, 12:28:58 PM
North Korea attacked to Yeongpyeong island in South Korea yesterday. South Korea will be visited this season in TAR (and of course it was previously visited in season 4).
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on November 24, 2010, 03:38:35 PM
North Korea does something every four to six months, so I don't know if that qualifies as a "disaster." Last time, they sunk a South Korea submarine in international waters.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 24, 2010, 04:47:04 PM
Did anybody read about this?

SOURCE: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11832900

Quote
Cambodia holds day of mourning for stampede victims

Cambodia is holding a day of mourning for more than 450 people killed in a festival stampede.

Prime Minister Hun Sen is due to join officials and grieving relatives for a religious ceremony at the footbridge where the tragedy happened.

A preliminary investigation has found that the swaying of the bridge near the capital, Phnom Penh, triggered a panic.

Witnesses said some people were crushed on the bridge, while others fell into the river and drowned.

Crowds of revellers had been crossing the bridge to reach an island where an annual water festival was being held on Monday.

A committee set up to investigate the disaster found that many of the people on the suspension bridge were from the countryside and were unaware that such structures often swayed, local media reported.

Between 7,000 and 8,000 are thought to have been on the bridge at the time.

Cremations
"Some started screaming that the bridge was collapsing, that people were getting electric shocks and that the iron cables were snapping, so the people pushed each other and fell down and the stampede happened," said Prum Sokha, heading the panel of inquiry.

The first funerals and cremations took place across the country on Wednesday.

Mr Hun Sen said a memorial would be built "to commemorate the souls of the people who lost their lives in the incident... and to remember the serious tragedy for the nation and the Cambodian people".

But many relatives say they want answers.

"I feel very sad and angry about what happened," said Phea Channara at a funeral service for his 24-year-old sister near Phnom Penh.

"I wonder if the police really did their job. Why did they allow it to happen?"

Mr Hun Sen has described the stampede as the country's biggest tragedy since the Khmer Rouge era in the 1970s, which left an estimated 1.7 million people dead.

 :'( Prayers goes out to all the family of the victims and may all those who pass away in this accident R.I.P. :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: slayton on November 24, 2010, 04:50:18 PM
With them starting so many races in Los Angeles, the big one is bound to hit soon. (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/Smileys/classic/2115.gif)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on November 24, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Why do we connect all of the natural occurrences in a country previously visited by TAR? I don't get it. That's bad charm, I think.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 25, 2010, 03:12:55 AM
Not actually Uycocoa, i think this is more of a thread to post all the disasters that occurred in a country that TAR has visited.

TAR visited too many countries to name.. and definitely has got nothing to do or whatsoever related to a disaster happening to the country. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on November 25, 2010, 03:34:12 AM
Not actually Uycocoa, i think this is more of a thread to post all the disasters that occurred in a country that TAR has visited.

TAR visited too many countries to name.. and definitely has got nothing to do or whatsoever related to a disaster happening to the country. :tup:

So why did you post the Cambodian one? As if TAR has anything to do with it, may it be a "curse" or whatever. ???
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redwings8831 on November 30, 2010, 01:50:49 AM
So Tokyo(TAR 18 Location, spoiler) was hit by a 6.9 magnitude earthquake about 3-4 hours ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/29/AR2010112906715.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2010, 07:56:44 AM
Not actually Uycocoa, i think this is more of a thread to post all the disasters that occurred in a country that TAR has visited.

TAR visited too many countries to name.. and definitely has got nothing to do or whatsoever related to a disaster happening to the country. :tup:

So why did you post the Cambodian one? As if TAR has anything to do with it, may it be a "curse" or whatever. ???

None of these are actual real curses either ??? Can't we just share ???
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on November 30, 2010, 08:11:16 AM
Not actually Uycocoa, i think this is more of a thread to post all the disasters that occurred in a country that TAR has visited.

TAR visited too many countries to name.. and definitely has got nothing to do or whatsoever related to a disaster happening to the country. :tup:

So why did you post the Cambodian one? As if TAR has anything to do with it, may it be a "curse" or whatever. ???

None of these are actual real curses either ??? Can't we just share ???

It's kinda depressing to have a "curse" attached/associated to a show you love. (LOL at me for being so sensitive. :lol:)

Somebody should make a "The World is nearing it's end" thread and there you can share all you want. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2010, 09:21:17 AM
Not actually Uycocoa, i think this is more of a thread to post all the disasters that occurred in a country that TAR has visited.

TAR visited too many countries to name.. and definitely has got nothing to do or whatsoever related to a disaster happening to the country. :tup:

So why did you post the Cambodian one? As if TAR has anything to do with it, may it be a "curse" or whatever. ???

None of these are actual real curses either ??? Can't we just share ???

It's kinda depressing to have a "curse" attached/associated to a show you love. (LOL at me for being so sensitive. :lol:)

Somebody should make a "The World is nearing it's end" thread and there you can share all you want. :lol:

I think you're just too sensitive. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on November 30, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Whatever. But sharing that Cambodian tragedy is not connected with the race, it's waaay to late. :res:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 30, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
If you say so. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on November 30, 2010, 09:01:11 PM
Strictly speaking, the "curse" had to relate to an event in a filming location between the time of filming and the time of airing, and be significant enough to raise questions about whether the cast and crews (especially including the locals) were affected by the event.

Of that there have been very few such events; the hurricane season of 2005, Katrina, and the Great Tsunami of Christmas 2004, seem to be the only ones that have directly impacted in this way.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: inomu on December 01, 2010, 04:47:00 PM
But I think that we can use this topic to raise awareness about the things that are happening in countries that TAR visits.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on December 01, 2010, 09:58:15 PM
But I think that we can use this topic to raise awareness about the things that are happening in countries that TAR visits.

Make a new thread then, or change the title. :)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2010, 10:26:18 PM
We can def use this thread for more awareness, but the TAR Disaster Curse is part of TAR Legend...so I think the title stays...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: AmazingRace on December 01, 2010, 10:39:27 PM
We can def use this thread for more awareness, but the TAR Disaster Curse is part of TAR Legend...so I think the title stays...

The Peach has spoken!  :bow:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on December 02, 2010, 04:31:03 AM
We can def use this thread for more awareness, but the TAR Disaster Curse is part of TAR Legend...so I think the title stays...

The Peach has spoken!  :bow:

:bow:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: AmazingRace on December 25, 2010, 10:05:28 AM
Remembering the victims of the devastating Asian Tsunami on this day 6 years ago.  :cmas13 (December 26, 2004)

 :cmas4 :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on December 25, 2010, 02:00:11 PM
And oddly enough, a regional tsunami in portions of the South Pacific after a deep sea earthquake rated over 7.0.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on December 26, 2010, 04:22:13 AM
fires in Queensland, Australia....
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Coutzy on December 26, 2010, 07:02:55 AM
fires in Queensland, Australia....

Not at all uncommon, sadly.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on December 26, 2010, 10:52:07 PM
Remembering the victims of the devastating Asian Tsunami on this day 6 years ago.  :cmas13 (December 26, 2004)

 :cmas4 :cmas4

That was such a tragic disaster...thanks for reminding us all. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: KitKat on December 27, 2010, 07:17:54 AM
Wow! It doesn't seem like it was that long ago. People are still suffering from that tsunami and the sad thing is, I don't recall seeing anything about it on any of the news channels.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on January 03, 2011, 01:53:19 AM
Flooding in Albay Province, Legazpi City visited in TARA4

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12106417
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Reilly Queens on February 11, 2011, 03:00:16 PM
I'm sure everyone has heard or seen the Egyptian Protests that ended today when he stepped down

It has had at least 300 deaths and over 3,000 people injured

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Egyptian_protests
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on February 11, 2011, 05:30:11 PM
Yep........TAR18 must have gone to Egypt and we missed it.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Reilly Queens on February 11, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
it was for Tar5 but okay?

p.s. this is no spoiler section....
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on February 11, 2011, 07:54:43 PM
I think it has long ago be decided that only recent tragedy which happened after TAR visited within 1 or 2 seasons should be linked to the "TAR Disaster Curse" such as the Asian Tsunami in TAR 6...

Otherwise, TAR has visited too many countries and if every disaster is linked to TAR.. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 11, 2011, 09:12:41 PM
it was for Tar5 but okay?

p.s. this is no spoiler section....

And no spoilers were quoted. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: AmazingRace on February 11, 2011, 09:19:32 PM
it was for Tar5 but okay?

p.s. this is no spoiler section....

And no spoilers were quoted. :groan:

I think what she meant was, she was'nt referring to TAR 18 as this was a no spoiler section, but instead TAR 5.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 11, 2011, 09:22:52 PM
There are no "spoilers" for season 5...once a show has aired, it is not a "spoiler" anymore. Once anything is in the Media, it is no longer consider a spoiler.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 11, 2011, 10:13:41 PM
Strictly speaking, the "curse" had to relate to an event in a filming location between the time of filming and the time of airing, and be significant enough to raise questions about whether the cast and crews (especially including the locals) were affected by the event.

Of that there have been very few such events; the hurricane season of 2005, Katrina, and the Great Tsunami of Christmas 2004, seem to be the only ones that have directly impacted in this way.

Just a reminder of what comes within the "TAR Disaster Curse."
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on February 11, 2011, 10:36:10 PM
the_schnauzers, using that criteria (which I also happen to agree with) I would add to that...... 9/11 (TAR1) and the Chilean Earthquake of last spring (TAR16). I do realize that the earthquake happened after the Chilean episodes aired.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 12, 2011, 01:31:05 AM
I wouldn't call it a major disaster by any measure, but the wind farm site in Palm Springs (actually the entire Palm Springs region) suffered substantial flooding a few days before Christmas when a 4 day rain storm dumped 5 times the amount of rain they usually get for the entire month of December. This was the heaviest rain in that area in 65 years. There was flash flooding in Whitewater Canyon near the wind farm. Having looked at some videos of the flooding on youtube, I could see some of the mud flow remnants left behind when I looked at the pictures and videos that Chateau took at the wind farm.

I mentioned this a few weeks ago in another thread, but I probably should have put it here instead.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on February 16, 2011, 11:29:52 PM
TAR 10 - Halong Bay

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12490523
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2011, 12:27:00 AM
Phil Keoghan
 Very serious situation in Christchurch after another major earthquake, just found out my parents are safe but damage in the CBD extreme

-



http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4688231/65-dead-in-devastating-Christchurch-quake
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Snooky on February 22, 2011, 12:28:22 AM
That's not good at all. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2011, 12:30:43 AM
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10708043

epicenter very near Phil's family.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Coutzy on February 22, 2011, 01:08:35 AM
The Victorian Country Fire Authority has asked for any volunteers with "Structural Engineering experience and a passport" to contact the higher ups.

Sadly, I have no engineering experience whatsoever.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on February 22, 2011, 04:51:32 PM
The new earthquake was not as strong as the previous one. This earthquake was much closer to Christchurch and much shallower.........with means lots more damage.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 22, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
I also understand that the soil type underneath Christchurch was also a factor, in that the soil behaved like a liquid which amplified the shock waves from the epicenter.

(This is similar to the factors that aggravated the Port au Prince earthquake at the beginning of 2010.)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 23, 2011, 08:38:57 AM
I thought about Phil when I heard of the 2nd Christchurch earthquake. I feel for everyone there.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 09, 2011, 07:10:39 AM
TOKYO -- A magnitude 7.2 earthquake has hit northern Japan, prompting the country's meteorological agency to issue a tsunami alert for the northeastern coast.

It warns that a tsunami of about 20 inches (50 centimeters) will hit the coast around noon Wednesday.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/08/earthquake-japan-tsunami-alert_n_833245.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 09, 2011, 12:26:02 PM
That's a tiny-whiny tsunami (20 inches). One gets larger waves from a category one tropical cyclone.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Reilly Queens on March 10, 2011, 03:13:14 PM
In Yunnan, China today, a 5.8 earthquake hit Yunnan so far 25 people died and 250 injured.

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Yingjiang of Yunnan earthquake has caused 25 deaths of 250 people were injured
2011-03-11 00:06:05 Source: Xinhua (Guangzhou) keep abreast of mobile phone to read news 39

Core Tip: As at 23:30 on the 10th, at 12:58 on March 10 Yingjiang of Yunnan's 5.8 earthquake occurred has caused 25 deaths, 250 injured, 134 seriously injured. 1039 houses collapsed, 3147, severe damage to the 4994, 22054, mild damage to the 7532, 24950.

Kunming, March 10 Xinhua reporter learned from the Yunnan Civil Affairs Department, as at 23:30 on the 10th, at 12:58 on March 10 Yingjiang of Yunnan's 5.8 earthquake occurred has caused 25 deaths, 250 people were injured, 134 seriously injured. 1039 houses collapsed, 3147, severe damage to the 4994, 22054, mild damage to the 7532, 24950.

Meanwhile, the Yunnan Civil Affairs Department, and increased deployment of 2,000 blankets, 2,000 pieces of coat, is now stepping up transported to disaster areas. The rescue team are being rushed to the relief work Yingjiang.

http://news.163.com/11/0311/00/6UQSQNS000014JB5.html (Chinese)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2011, 03:38:05 PM
Oh no. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 11, 2011, 12:26:12 AM
A 7.9  8.8 magnitude earthquake has struck offshore from the Pacific coast of Japan, and has generated a tsunami. CNN is airing the feed live as I type this. The estimated potential is for wave heights of 6 meters, or about 19 feet.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: mswood on March 11, 2011, 12:38:34 AM
God, this is a lot of terrible, terrible news.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Mandoli on March 11, 2011, 01:51:37 AM
I'm watching something live on YouTube about the tsunami. It's a very disturbing scene. Water rushing through the country, fire along with it. :(

They're saying the earthquake is at an 8.9 now.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DavidJunior on March 11, 2011, 01:53:20 AM
I've been watching the live feed from Japan, and whoo man, it's bad, especially for such a densly populated country...

Like REALLY bad, massive flooding, fires and other damage from the quake.  I think that since it was relatively close to shore the quake still had pretty damaging effects.  It was far enough out to generate a legitimate tsunami, but close enough so that no one could really perpare in Japan for it.

Praying hard for that country, and also that the tsunami dissipates before it reaches other regions (Hawaii, S. Pacific, Taiwan, Western US even...).
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: LoveRocked on March 11, 2011, 01:59:52 AM
I've been watching the live feed from Japan, and whoo man, it's bad, especially for such a densly populated country...

Like REALLY bad, massive flooding, fires and other damage from the quake.  I think that since it was relatively close to shore the quake still had pretty damaging effects.  It was far enough out to generate a legitimate tsunami, but close enough so that no one could really perpare in Japan for it.

Praying hard for that country, and also that the tsunami dissipates before it reaches other regions (Hawaii, S. Pacific, Taiwan, Western US even...).


Me too.. I really surprise.. The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii said a tsunami warning was in effect for Japan, Russia, Marcus Island and the Northern Marianas. A tsunami watch has been issued for Guam, Taiwan, the Philippines, Indonesia and the U.S. state of Hawaii.

The quake struck at a depth of six miles (10 kilometers), about 80 miles (125 kilometers) off the eastern coast, the agency said. The area is 240 miles (380 kilometers) northeast of Tokyo.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 11, 2011, 02:04:48 AM
I've been watching the live video from Japan as well and my heart goes out to the Japanese people. The tsunami looks every bit as bad as and perhaps worse than the one several years back after the earthquake in Indonesia. I expect this will affect numerous other countries in the Pacific basin as well. This is a sad day indeed. My thoughts and prayers are with the people in that region.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: AmazingRace on March 11, 2011, 02:34:48 AM
Prayers for those affected.  :'( :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 11, 2011, 02:59:48 AM
I dont get cable, so I cant watch CNN. I just saw pictures of people on the top of an airport terminal bldg. I assume it is Haneda Sendai Airport. I would think Narita is too far inland to be under water like in the photos.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on March 11, 2011, 03:17:40 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709598

Tsunami hits Japan, Tokyo.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 11, 2011, 03:42:45 AM
These earthquakes are caused by the collision of two oceanic plates. The events started at March 9, 2011 at 2:45 UTC. It stared with a 7.2 quake


Number of quakes                Richter Scale
1                                           7.2
15                                         5.0-5.9
4                                           6.0-6.9
1                                           5.0

March 10

6                                          6.0-6.9
1                                          8.9
6                                          6.3-7.1
2                                          5.8-5.9
3                                          6.1-6.3
6                                          5.4-5.9
3                                          6.2-6.5
3                                          5.4-5.9

That is total of 51 earthquakes greater than 5.0. I filtered out the quakes that were less than 5.0 I am sure there were many smaller pre-shocks and after-shocks too. The average time between quakes is about 5 minutes.

This information is from the NEIC in Boulder Colorado.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 11, 2011, 04:01:39 AM
Anyone know of a live web cam for Kansai Airport in Osaka......it is built on a man made island in Osaka Bay.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on March 11, 2011, 04:30:25 AM
:(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2011, 06:58:33 AM
My heart goes out to everyone in Japan and China affected by these disasters. Christchurch is also just beginning its recovery....Such a sad time.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on March 11, 2011, 08:30:17 AM
Here's some video of the tsunami hitting an airport in Sendai:



Unbelievable :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 11, 2011, 08:31:26 AM
The tsunami was crazy...

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/11/japan.tsunami.damage/index.html?hpt=C1

Did anybody see the video???

Omg.. it's scary...

Heart and prayers goes out to EVERYONE who's affected! :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on March 11, 2011, 08:33:08 AM
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Police said 200 to 300 bodies were found in the northeastern coastal city of Sendai. Another 88 were confirmed killed and at least 349 were missing. The death toll was likely to continue climbing given the scale of the disaster.

The magnitude 8.9 offshore quake unleashed a 23-foot (7-meter) tsunami and was followed by more than 50 aftershocks for hours, many of them of more than magnitude 6.0.

Dozens of cities and villages along a 1,300-mile (2,100-kilometer) stretch of coastline were shaken by violent tremors that reached as far away as Tokyo, hundreds of miles (kilometers) from the epicenter.

Even for a country used to earthquakes, this one was of horrific proportions because of the tsunami that crashed ashore, swallowing everything in its path as it surged several miles (kilometers) inland before retreating. The apocalyptic images of surging water broadcast by Japanese TV networks resembled scenes from a Hollywood disaster movie.

Large fishing boats and other sea vessels rode high waves into the cities, slamming against overpasses or scraping under them and snapping power lines along the way. Upturned and partially submerged vehicles were seen bobbing in the water. Ships anchored in ports crashed against each other.

The highways to the worst-hit coastal areas were severely damaged and communications, including telephone lines, were snapped. Train services in northeastern Japan and in Tokyo, which normally serve 10 million people a day, were also suspended, leaving untold numbers stranded in stations or roaming the streets. Tokyo's Narita airport was closed indefinitely.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on March 11, 2011, 08:36:51 AM
I hope our friends overseas stay safe. :(
From the Google homepage:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Snooky on March 11, 2011, 08:54:59 AM
I can't believe this isn't on any of my news channels where I am right now, and they aren't talking about anything but food or miscellaneous crap...I'm really pissed off with the mainstream media now...I have to go online just to find out what happened.

I hope everyone is okay, especially our friends that were already hit, I just found that California could have 7 foot waves.

Tsunami Alert for New Zealand, the Philippines, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Hawaii, and others. Waves expected over the next few hours, caused by 8.9 earthquake in Japan.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Snooky on March 11, 2011, 09:19:39 AM
I think this deserves its own topic, I don't think the Disaster Curse is more important then the disaster itself.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on March 11, 2011, 09:48:12 AM
Thank God, Tsunami warnings here are now lifted. :hearts:

But I'm still worried about Japan. :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on March 11, 2011, 09:51:47 AM
If anyone knows somebody in Japan Google has put together a tool to find out their status:

http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/?lang=en

Guam and Hawaii have already been hit with no major damage. British Columbia, Oregon, and Alaska are evacuating some coastal regions.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: cosmophobia on March 11, 2011, 10:30:33 AM
Tsunami warnings here are still on, the wave might be arriving at midnight (in 11 hours).

OMG, this disaster curse is still on =(!!!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on March 11, 2011, 10:35:29 AM
I do believe those cowboys made a earthquake disaster curse in China and Japan, this year.  Take a look at what they'd done to Chile last year.  Hopefully they won't make an earthquake curse to India later this year because they'd raced there for Unfinished Business edition, last year and India just like the 2 countries that I'd mentioned, it is also an earthquake prone country.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on March 11, 2011, 10:45:18 AM
do you think they'd made an earthquake disaster curse on Chile, Japan, China and [hopefully not] India? :umn:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 11, 2011, 10:49:41 AM
This one does come within the "curse" FWIW.

After I posted the initial report (as I was about to fall asleep and I was drowsy by then), I had just seen the live NHK feed from CNN of the first tsunami waves hitting in northeastern Japan.  So I knew the effects of the tsunami throughout the Pacific basin were potentially very serious. The TWC had not yet posted the 7-meter forecast though, and that is what passed through Hawaii overnight.

At this time (11:30 am EST), the first tsunami is now expected along the California coast at any time. And they are mentioning it as 7 feet, (2 meters).

This is the first trans-Pacific tsunami since the 1961 9.1 earthquake that hit Alaska and sent tsunamis that were observed in China, Japan, Hawaii, and the West Coast of the U.S.  That was in an era without satellite technology or communications.

Someone in Hawaii is reporting  that the sides of the Big Island that are facing towards Japan are seeing water 100 feet inland, but so far no deaths and no injuries, as the more populated areas actually are not on the north and west sides of the islands.

The one good thing out of this is that the tsunami detection and warning systems are getting their first real test since the Christmas 2004 Great Tsunami in the Indian Ocean. As most of the systems were  installed or upgraded after that event.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 11, 2011, 11:05:58 AM
"The 1964 Alaska earthquake, also known as the Great Alaskan Earthquake, the Portage Earthquake and the Good Friday Earthquake, was a megathrust earthquake that began at 5:36 P.M. AST on Good Friday, March 27, 1964.[2] Across south-central Alaska, ground fissures, collapsing buildings, and tsunamis resulting from the temblor caused about 131 deaths."

From Wikipedia.

I worked in Alaska about 9 years after that. The debris had been cleared away, but they had not started rebuilding in parts of Anchorage that were destroyed. Also there was a lot of cleared areas in Valdez that had not been rebuilt on.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 11, 2011, 12:20:15 PM
topaz, you're being silly. Honestly, I don't think that sort of comment is appropriate given the loss of life from the earthquake in Japan.  There's so much chaos in the Tokyo area right now, I'm sure WRP isn't even able to check on the safety of the local folk who helped with the production of the Japanese leg.

Narita is closed, and it isn't clear whether that is just a precaution, or because there was damage at the airport. Many of the roadways in the Tokyo area are closed as a precaution; and at the same time the 8.9 earthquake came after 2 days of numerous pre-shocks, and there have been many post-shocks since the main shock. I just hope that the additional shocks do not cause any further loss of life or serious damages, both of which are possible.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2011, 01:10:14 PM
Quote
Scientists said the quake ranked as the fifth-largest earthquake in the world since 1900 and was nearly 8,000 times stronger than one that devastated Christchurch, New Zealand, last month.


Thousands without power in Tokyo...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110311/ap_on_re_as/as_japan_earthquake
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 11, 2011, 01:13:11 PM
I think this deserves its own topic, I don't think the Disaster Curse is more important then the disaster itself.

We discussed this earlier...there is of course no real disaster "curse", we are using this thread as a way to communicate about places and people we have come to love thanks to the race.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Neobie on March 11, 2011, 01:24:15 PM
My heart goes out to all affected, and I pray for the best for all, in Japan and elsewhere!

Is Kenchan or any of our other posters based in Japan?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 11, 2011, 01:39:44 PM
My heart goes out to all affected, and I pray for the best for all, in Japan and elsewhere!

Is Kenchan or any of our other posters based in Japan?

I think Kenchan is US based, but his buddies that did the leg work are in Tokyo.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: TexasLady on March 11, 2011, 06:24:37 PM
This is a truly a major disaster and it isn't over with in Japan, 2 nuclear plants are having cooling problems with their reactors. As Neobie said, my heart goes out to all the victims of the earthquake and tsunami. I am praying for our RFF family members around the world to be safe and sound.   

If anyone wishes to donate, be careful, fake sites are popping up but here are 3 that are safe:

American Red Cross Go to http://www.redcross.org to donate to Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami or donate $10 by texting REDCROSS to 90999

Salvation Army: Text either the word JAPAN or QUAKE to 80888 to make a $10 donation or call 1-800-SALARMY or go to http://www.disaster.salvationarmyusa.org. Mail checks made out to "Japan Earthquake Relief" to the Salvation Army World Service Office, International Relief Fund, P.O. Box 630728, Baltimore, MD 21263

AmeriCares emergency team is on full alert, mobilizing resources and dispatching an emergency response manager to the region.
https://secure.americares.org/site/Donation2?df_id=1503&1503.donation=form1

I'm sure there are other organizations that are sending aid as well. A number of countries are offering assistance, China, USA, England, Russia to name a few.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 11, 2011, 06:49:43 PM
One place to go to that vets anything they list is CNN.com/impact.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Coutzy on March 12, 2011, 12:26:03 AM
Not sure if this is exactly the right place to put this, but heres a video shot during the quake.

For those of us from very calm areas, such as myself, its a big eye opener.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 12, 2011, 01:55:44 AM
Coutzy, dramatic as that video was, I don't think it was shot very near the epicenter. I would have expected far more violent shaking than that. That looked similar to what I experienced during the 7.1 Loma Prieta earthquake near San Francisco in 1989. Lots of shaking, a bookcase knocked over but no broken windows. The cameraman was standing without too much trouble except for one brief section. I was keeping myself in a doorway and holding on to the door frame for support. The Japan earthquake was hundreds of times stronger than what I went through and if it was near the epicenter, I'd expect it to have at least knocked over the computer monitor and the microwave in the kitchen. It probably would have also immediately hurled everything from the shelves shown in the first part of the video. I'm guessing it was shot in Tokyo or somewhere similar that was a couple of hundred miles away from the epicenter.

It's still pretty impressive. I'm glad I wasn't there.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on March 12, 2011, 02:46:46 AM
everyone, I'd just read a tweet message today coming from Phil Keoghan himself that he will make a public service announcement on tomorrow's episode of TAR 18 about the earthquake in Japan, yesterday.  So we could wait for that one and please pray for the victims as well. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 12, 2011, 07:06:34 AM

Is Kenchan or any of our other posters based in Japan?

I think Kenchan is US based, but his buddies that did the leg work are in Tokyo.

His family in Tokyo are safe. He is trying to reach our TAR compatriots.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Chateau d If on March 12, 2011, 03:40:07 PM
Compare these images:  Minamisanriku

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51650000/jpg/_51650247_011507145-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on March 12, 2011, 03:43:06 PM
So sad. :'(  Unbelievable really.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 12, 2011, 06:58:57 PM
Minamisanriku

Thats the town that has half its residents missing.....about 9500 unaccounted for. The shape of the bay funnels the water. It probably had a higher tsunami than places with straight coasts.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 12, 2011, 07:10:29 PM
Minamisanriku

Thats the town that has half its residents missing.....about 9500 unaccounted for. The shape of the bay funnels the water. It probably had a higher tsunami than places with straight coasts.

Japan reported about 1000 confirmed dead. I suspect the amount to be more.. i think it will reach up to even 2000 to 3000 deaths. :'(

It breaks my heart, to see the tsunami coming in and those who were left to fend for their lives. Wasn't there supposed to be tsunami warning system...?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 12, 2011, 07:23:35 PM
What has impressed me, amidst all the death, carnage and destruction, is the stability of the areas reclaimed from the sea. The nuclear facility, where they are having so much trouble, is built on land reclaimed from the sea. All around Tokyo Bay are multiple areas reclaimed from the sea. The oil facility that was/is on fire is on reclaimed land. The airport in Osaka is a man-made island.

One phenomenom that normally happens in earthqukes is a process called soil liquifaction. When the ground starts shaking, water usually enters land reclaimed from the sea and leads to collapse of the land and the buildings on it. I have not seen any evidence of this happening in Japan. The japanese seem to have really perfected the way to reclaime land from the sea and not have it sink during an earthquake.

I heard on the news here in US, that most places had about a 40 minute warning about the tsunami.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 12, 2011, 07:30:23 PM
The height of the waves was 10 meters -- about 5 stories high, there wouldn't be much left standing, and truthfully I am not surprised of the number missing.

It's hard to tell yet whether the loss of life may reach the levels of the Great Tsunami of 2004, and I pray that it does not, given the effects of a close-in epicenter (closer to the shoreline than the Sumatra earthquake) and the fact that relatively few coastal residents would have had time to flee far enough inland or high enough to avoid the wave crests.

The one planning weakness I'm sensing in all of the coverage is a better understanding of the effects of a combined great earthquake and tsunami, including the impact on nuclear energy facilities. You can be sure that is going to get a lot of attention worldwide, and that future facilities are going to need better fail safe mechanisms to account for that risk.

I lived less than 2 hours from Three Mile Island when that melt-down occurred (in the DC suburbs, and I had my car packed and ready to flee southward until the danger passed at that time.

I'm concerned that there still could be aftershocks in the 8.0 range that could trigger another tsunami, even though the likelihood of another 8.9 quake is highly remote.

Edited to respond to Joab:

There is a tsunami warning system and it worked as it was supposed to.  The issue here is that there wasn't a sufficient response system in place, especially when the epicenter was so close to shore, and the amount of time was so brief (10-15 minutes)  That wavefront is moving at speeds of 400 to 500 mph and has a lot of energy connected to it. While the time wasn't sufficient for northeastern Japan, it minimized the loss of life elsewhere in the Pacific Rim (none in Hawaii, one fool in California who should have known better, and I haven't read of any others anywhere else.)

Within a few more years, there will be a tsunami warning system in place in the Atlantic Ocean basin, including the Caribbean Sea, in addition to the Indian and Pacific basins.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Belle Book on March 12, 2011, 07:35:52 PM
Minamisanriku

Thats the town that has half its residents missing.....about 9500 unaccounted for. The shape of the bay funnels the water. It probably had a higher tsunami than places with straight coasts.

Japan reported about 1000 confirmed dead. I suspect the amount to be more.. i think it will reach up to even 2000 to 3000 deaths. :'(

It breaks my heart, to see the tsunami coming in and those who were left to fend for their lives. Wasn't there supposed to be tsunami warning system...?

Yes, there was.  But an earthquake that was apparently so close to shore would probably create a tsunami that moved so quickly that there wasn't time for the Japanese to head for the hills, especially in the area nearest the earthquake.  Hawaii and the West Coast of the U.S. had more time.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 12, 2011, 11:04:15 PM
One of the good stories I read. The US Air Force Base at Yukota in the NW surburbs of Tokyo landed 11 diverted commerical jets. The base air crews refuled the jets and fed the passengers with flight meals. They opened the base community center and airmen and their familes played host. 9 of the jets flew to Narita, but two stayed there for the night. They were housed in the community center and were allowed to off load their baggage to clean up. The base jazz band played music for them all. The airmen even unloaded the passengers live animals and kept them indoors on the cold night. All passengers, pets and baggage was reloaded the next morning and the planes also flew to Narita.

The airbase is becoming the focal point for US assistance. The army and air force are staging helicopters out of there that are flying in relief supplies to areas that cannot be reached by road assistance yet.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 12, 2011, 11:42:37 PM
The height of the waves was 10 meters -- about 5 stories high, there wouldn't be much left standing, and truthfully I am not surprised of the number missing.

It's hard to tell yet whether the loss of life may reach the levels of the Great Tsunami of 2004, and I pray that it does not, given the effects of a close-in epicenter (closer to the shoreline than the Sumatra earthquake) and the fact that relatively few coastal residents would have had time to flee far enough inland or high enough to avoid the wave crests.

The one planning weakness I'm sensing in all of the coverage is a better understanding of the effects of a combined great earthquake and tsunami, including the impact on nuclear energy facilities. You can be sure that is going to get a lot of attention worldwide, and that future facilities are going to need better fail safe mechanisms to account for that risk.

I lived less than 2 hours from Three Mile Island when that melt-down occurred (in the DC suburbs, and I had my car packed and ready to flee southward until the danger passed at that time.

I'm concerned that there still could be aftershocks in the 8.0 range that could trigger another tsunami, even though the likelihood of another 8.9 quake is highly remote.

Edited to respond to Joab:

There is a tsunami warning system and it worked as it was supposed to.  The issue here is that there wasn't a sufficient response system in place, especially when the epicenter was so close to shore, and the amount of time was so brief (10-15 minutes)  That wavefront is moving at speeds of 400 to 500 mph and has a lot of energy connected to it. While the time wasn't sufficient for northeastern Japan, it minimized the loss of life elsewhere in the Pacific Rim (none in Hawaii, one fool in California who should have known better, and I haven't read of any others anywhere else.)

Within a few more years, there will be a tsunami warning system in place in the Atlantic Ocean basin, including the Caribbean Sea, in addition to the Indian and Pacific basins.

Thanks! I knew there was a tsunami warning system, but it didn't occur to me that the tsunami happened so quickly within 10 to 15 minutes. As a geog student, i learnt that there should be at least 1 to 2 hours after an earthquake for response time for tsunami... :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: static_edrei on March 13, 2011, 10:18:07 AM
God forbid.. but there are trends right here.. Australia hit by a hurricane earlier, China and Japan got the earthquake.. hopefully nothing happens in India and the following visited countries soon..

Remember
Sri Lanka TAR 6
Chile TAR 16?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 13, 2011, 10:45:31 AM
More than 10,000 feared dead in Japan quake: police
The death toll from Japan's devastating earthquake and tsunami is likely to exceed 10,000 in Miyagi prefecture alone, a regional police chief told reporters Sunday.

Let's continue to pray... :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Coutzy on March 15, 2011, 10:09:16 PM
It's going from bad to worse to even worse for Japan. The cooling of Reactor 1 at Fukushima has failed, and they are now bracing for the potential of a full meltdown.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/japan-earthquake-new-explosion-rocks-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant/story-fn7zkbgs-1226021415043
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Parovic on March 19, 2011, 10:02:59 AM
God bless Japan.I will always remember the time that  TAR15 contestants try sushi there
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: David on March 19, 2011, 12:13:21 PM
God bless Japan.I will always remember the time that  TAR15 contestants try sushi there

EAT.YOUR.WASABIII.

:lol3:  

I loved it too, though that leg was REALLY bad structured, IMO.

RB->"Lame task"->PS.

On topic: I feel really bad beacuse of what's come to Japan...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 19, 2011, 12:56:35 PM
Let's keep to the topic while Japan's still struggling with all the snowfall to hamper the already difficult rescue efforts. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on March 19, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
David's really off-topic. :lol:

Now back to topic...

Japan is at its lowest. :( Now that the government accepted the fact that the Fukushima Power Plant may cause danger, this make me sadder. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 31, 2011, 08:37:12 PM
APPARENTLY I GOT APRIL FOOLED. (:;)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Snooky on March 31, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
Japan got hit by another 9.2 magnitude earthqauke just this morning????? (5 to 6 hours ago) :'(
Not that big, you scared me for a sec.

From Google:
Time       Magnitude       Location
6 hours ago       5.2       Off the east coast of Honshu, Japan       Map
18 hours ago       6.2       Near the east coast of Honshu, Japan       Map
Yesterday       6.0       Off the east coast of Honshu, Japan       Map
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 31, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
There was a 6.5 off the coast on Monday as well...but nothing that big as Snooky says. Thank goodness!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 31, 2011, 08:43:31 PM
APPARENTLY I GOT APRIL FOOLED. (:;)

 :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 31, 2011, 08:44:57 PM
APPARENTLY I GOT APRIL FOOLED. (:;)

 :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow:

 But that's an awful joke...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 31, 2011, 08:49:01 PM
APPARENTLY I GOT APRIL FOOLED. (:;)

 :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow: :meow:

 But that's an awful joke...

PRECISELY. I just told him off and mentioned that he might get bad karma! (:;)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on March 31, 2011, 09:20:06 PM
I have heard some new data on the March 11th Japanese earthquake. The deep ocean tsunami......the one that crossed the Pacific basin was approx 3.5 feet high. Normally these waves are measured in inches.

Subsidence along the NE Japanese coast has been measured from 1m to 2 m after the quake and before the tsunami arrived. The height of the tsunami wave when it hits land is determined by several factors.......the slope of the underwater shoreline, the geography/topography of the land it hits and a few more. At one place north of Sendai.....the wave was measured at 14.9 m, and possibily 17m in another place. This was in a place where the water got funneled up into a bay that was surrounded by mountains....the only place for the water to go is up. It was at Minamisanriku.........this is the town with approx 10,000 missing residents.

If you are interested and want to see a fantastic program that explains so much about this particular event, then go to http://www.pbs.org The program will be listed under the NOVA headline/section and titled as Japanese Killer Quake.

I am not sure if there was some kind of conference going on in Japan at the time, but there sure seemed to be an inordinate amount of foreign earthquake/tsunami experts, on the ground in Japan, when the earthquake and tsunami occured.

Here is the link to the online episode:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/japan-killer-quake.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on April 02, 2011, 07:14:43 AM
Google Earth has updated the NE coast of Japan.....it is really staggering.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 03, 2011, 04:52:18 PM
JAKARTA (Reuters) – Indonesia's earthquake agency on Monday issued a tsunami warning after a 7.1 magnitude quake struck at about 300 kilometers (186 miles) off Cilacap on the south coast of Java island.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110403/wl_nm/us_indonesia_earthquake
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prama on April 03, 2011, 09:07:46 PM
Indonesia Cancels Tsunami Warning After Quake

Indonesian seismologists on Monday canceled a tsunami alert they had issued after an earthquake in the Indian Ocean south of Java, which they said had a magnitude of 7.1.

Indonesia's Meteorology and Geophysics Agency sent an SMS on its public alert system, saying that a warning it had issued after the tremor, which it put at 10 km deep, "has ended".

The US Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre had said that there was no risk of a widespread destructive wave, but that there was a "very small possibility of a local tsunami".

Source: http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/indonesia-cancels-tsunami-warning-after-quake/433346


We're fine here  :waves:  We have not received any reports of damage or casualties so far :)  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 03, 2011, 09:13:25 PM
Thanks prama!! Glad you are okay!!

Y'all keep your fingers crossed for me too...apparently we are in the path of the severe storms sweeping across the US  tomorrow. 60% chance of tornados!!

If you need me, I'll be under the bed....
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on April 03, 2011, 11:11:49 PM
Thanks  prama......glad all is okay over there!!!

Peach....just remember to duck.......it is supposed to start here soon. We are right on the edge. The prediction is all the action will be east of me........but if it gets rocking and rollin.......I will "try" to PM you and let you know......lol

The triple point collision (dry line, low pressure center and cold front) are supposed to hit here from midnight to sunup.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 04, 2011, 01:17:42 AM
Hang tight DrRox!! I should be good until tomorrow night...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on April 04, 2011, 02:32:07 AM
I will Peach.......but I meant to tell you tomorrow after I see what happens here......not tonight.......sometime on Monday.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on April 04, 2011, 06:31:16 AM
The rockin and rollin started about 330 am.......60/70 mph winds....lots of rain and hail.......didnt or havent heard any thing about tornados yet........but its heading toward you at about 60 mph.........dont forget to duck!!!!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on April 04, 2011, 07:44:46 AM
Earthquake of magnitude 6 at India-Nepal border, tremors felt in Delhi

NDTV Correspondent, Updated: April 04, 2011 17:59 IST


New Delhi:  An earthquake measuring 6 on the Richter scale and with an epicentre in Nepal shook parts of north India, including capital Delhi and its suburbs on Monday evening. There are no reports yet of damage or loss of life. (Read: Tweets on quake)

Reports from Noida and Gurgaon and parts of Delhi said strong tremors were felt, with furniture shaking in buildings. Tremors were also felt in Lucknow and Kanpur in Uttar Pradesh and mild tremors were reported in Shimla in Himachal Pradesh too. (Felt quake? Comment here)
 
India's earthquake monitoring network said the quake took place at 5.01 pm and the depth of the quake was 10 km.

Surfers are writing in at NDTV.com to describe their experience. S Gopi wrote in from Munsyari at the Indo-Nepal border to say, "Experienced strong tremors in Munsyari, located at the remote area of Indo-Nepal border...heavily shocking the people...But..we are safe...Thanks God."

"The earthquake was pretty strong and was there for more than 15-20 seconds. It shook the entire building," wrote Pankaj from Noida.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: AmazingRace on April 04, 2011, 09:19:39 AM
Yikes! Constant prayers for everyone's safety.  :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on April 17, 2011, 09:17:46 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13109627

43 dead in US storms... Jet & Cord are from Oklahoma, so I thought this might be relevant...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: kenchan on April 25, 2011, 12:17:20 PM
Hi folks, sorry for jumping in late - I've been super busy... Partially because of the earthquake/tsunami.

Our Mixi.jp TAR community is still going on, but it has been fairly quiet. I think most of the fans in Japan live in the big cities like in the Tokyo area, and they are all trying to conserve electricity (due to the Fukushima nuke plant outages knocking out up to 30% of the power in the 50Hz Eastern Japan - note that Western Japan is on 60Hz and is on a completely different grid). I know most of the key members are safe, but I do not know if ALL of them are safe. Our thoughts and prayers are with them.


Anyway, I live in the Seattle area and have bought my tix to go see "The Ride" tomorrow night and hopefully Phil as well!

I made these really cool stickers for charity events - I don't have a good means to share a photo, but it's a motif of the Japanese flag with an abstracted view of the 4 main islands.  (I need to get a YFrog account)

The sticker reads:

がんばれ、日本! (Gambare, Nippon!)
We're with you Japan

I am hoping to take a handful of these and have Phil sign them, for two purposes:
* to let the Japanese fans at mixi.jp know that Phil is thinking of them
* to sell these (hopefully 3 of them) to the top 3 bidders, and donate ALL of the proceeds to charity (with corporate matching) - most likely the American Red Cross or Peacewinds America

Question to folks on this forum:
Do you think the other racers would be willing to autograph these stickers for the same cause? How would I be able to reach out to them?

If any of you could help, that would be great.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: kenchan on April 25, 2011, 12:22:06 PM
My heart goes out to all affected, and I pray for the best for all, in Japan and elsewhere!

Is Kenchan or any of our other posters based in Japan?

I think Kenchan is US based, but his buddies that did the leg work are in Tokyo.

Sorry for the late reply - yes, I am in Seattle, but Kuni lives in the Tokyo area.
Tokyo is ok--- desipte the various challenges (temporary food shortage, sporadic train schedules, ongoing power limitations, etc.), the city is still functioning. I have seen him log into Mixi, but I haven't seen any comments from him on our community.  Everyone over there is trying to save power, and TAR may be one of the last things on their minds right now.  I wouldn't blame them.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: kenchan on April 25, 2011, 12:24:49 PM

Is Kenchan or any of our other posters based in Japan?

I think Kenchan is US based, but his buddies that did the leg work are in Tokyo.

His family in Tokyo are safe. He is trying to reach our TAR compatriots.

Thanks Peach, for passing this along.

We have such great friends here at RFF!  I hope to meet you guys someday and chat in person!!!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2011, 12:34:47 PM
Thanks Ken, please keep us updated and pass along our love?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: kenchan on April 25, 2011, 12:58:02 PM
Thanks Ken, please keep us updated and pass along our love?

Of course, Peach!

I pledged to the members of our mixi.jp TAR community that I would keep writing the episode logs in Japanese so that could find some relief in the TV show they love the most.

And episode logs - that's what I do everyweek - not so much a PBP (hats off to the guys who do this on the Survivor Sucks forum), but fairly close. I write down details from the episode - ALL of the clues, the location details, and really great lines (Flight Time and Zev have provided the best ones in TAR18), and turn them into Japanese. 

This way, the fans that are not very well versed in English (quite a few of them) get something closer to a full TAR experience.  In fact, many of them join the community so they can get an in-depth view at what was aired in the episode.

The fun parts for me are:
* helping to bridge the language gap - not just from English, but also from the various American accents - Kisha/Jen and FT/BE have been somewhat difficult for the Japanese audience, so my translations seem to help them
* to translate all of the silly American slang and cultural references to something similar in Japanese (and sometimes that's a challenge - especially with Jet/Cord - heh heh, how do I translate "Oh my gravy!" to Japanese?)
* and of course, chatting about all of the tasks. 

Some of these guys in our mixi.jp community pick up on details that I have missed - like in the TAR18 Japan episode, one of the members picked up on a particular name in the credits at the end of the show - so he searched on it, and found a blog of one of the senior instructors at the Yabusame Dojo at the Tsurugaoka Hachimangu!  I should probably write up a post on it here, once I get permission from the blog owner.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2011, 01:57:00 PM
Oh yes, we would love to hear about that credit!

And sounds awesome, a wonderful gift for them and excellent for your Japanese too!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: kenchan on April 25, 2011, 01:58:50 PM
Oh yes, we would love to hear about that credit!

And sounds awesome, a wonderful gift for them and excellent for your Japanese too!

It's a lot of fun!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: mjriches2005 on April 25, 2011, 02:09:15 PM
Hey everyone this may count not as a disaster but more of conflict.  Right now I've been reading the news and there is soldier-related protest in Burkina Faso right now, especially in the capital of Ouagadougou where TAR12 went to on the 3rd and 4th legs of the season.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on April 28, 2011, 10:57:42 AM
An explosion hit a coffee shop at Marrakech, Morocco. The explosion is at jema el fna square, place of the roadblock of the leg 6 of TAR3.

Quote
A massive explosion ripped through a cafe popular among tourists in the Moroccan city of Marrakech on Thursday, killing 14 people including foreigners and wounding 20 in what the government called a criminal act.

If confirmed as terrorism, the blast in the iconic Djemma el-Fna square would be Morocco's deadliest bombing in eight years.

The explosion just before noon tore the facade off the two-story terracotta-colored Argana cafe, leaving awnings dangling. Panicked passersby dragged away bodies and tried to put out flames with fire extinguishers, witnesses told The Associated Press.

Moroccan government spokesman Khalid Naciri said that the 14 slain people came from a variety of countries but he did not say which ones.

"We worked for more than an hour, maybe less, on the hypothesis that this could eventually be accidental. But initial results of the investigation confirm that we are confronted with a true criminal act," Naciri said in an interview with France-24 television.

He said that more about the bombers' methods should be known within hours.

"There was a huge bang, and lots of smoke went up, there was debris raining down from the sky. Hundreds of people were running in panic, some towards the cafe, some away from the square. The whole front of the cafe is blown away," witness Andy Birnie, of north London, told the AP by telephone. Birnie is honeymooning in Marrakech.

The square is a UNESCO World Heritage site known for its snake charmers, fire breathers and old town, or medina.

"It was lunchtime so the square was very busy. We had just walked into the square, but were shielded by some stalls," Birnie said.

The state news agency MAP quoted a statement from the Interior Ministry as saying that 14 people were killed and 20 hurt in the explosion. The ministry said it appeared to be a "criminal act" and an investigation is under way.

The nationalities of the victims were not immediately clear. The Spanish foreign ministry said it wasn't aware of any Spaniards among the victims but that its consul in Casablanca was making inquiries.

Morocco is largely calm but was hit by terrorist bombings in Casablanca in 2003 that killed 45 people, including the suicide bombers. Moroccan authorities have regularly rounded up terror suspects since then and have been on alert for terrorist activity.

The Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, or GICM, a militant group was believed linked to those attacks. The GICM has also been implicated in the deadly attacks in Madrid in March 2004.

Al-Qaida has an affiliate operating in North Africa that stages regular attacks and kidnappings in neighboring Algeria. Morocco has said in the past that it has dismantled several al-Qaida plots. Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb currently holds four Frenchmen hostage after kidnapping them in Niger last year, and recently released new images and audio recordings of their voices.

Portuguese tourist Alexandre Carvalho, a 34 year-old call center worker from southern Portugal said, "I had just arrived at the square, the area where most cafes are located. Suddenly I heard this massive explosion, I had my back turned to it, I turned around to see it the explosion had happened on the veranda of a cafe.

"There were at least 10 injured people, lots of debris, things flying up in the air. I saw people in a panic running towards the area with fire extinguishers, some people being carried away. I believe the injured were mostly tourists, judging by what they were wearing," Carvalho told AP by telephone.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Parovic on May 14, 2011, 06:44:02 AM
A 5.1-magnitude earthquake, Spain's deadliest in 55 years, occurs near the town of Lorca
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: mjriches2005 on May 14, 2011, 01:33:58 PM
A 5.1-magnitude earthquake, Spain's deadliest in 55 years, occurs near the town of Lorca

Lorca is far away from Algeciras (TAR3) and Barcelona (TAR10).  My hearts are out to the people in the town; but how could that be connected to any race season?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on May 14, 2011, 01:40:01 PM
We are in Cordoba on Redwings' Europe race which is only a little over two hundred miles away.  :lol:


There were actually two earthquakes and they are not accustomed to them so there was a lot of damage. I hope they will be alright.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: kenchan on June 16, 2011, 02:28:11 AM
Quick update on Japan - this isn't a comprehensive report, but things are definitely going in the right direction (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001984/Japan-tsunami-earthquake-Pictures-recovery-3-months-later.html).

I'm still collecting funds for donations, as help is still needed.  My friends in Tokyo are also doing their part, organizing cook-offs for the evacuees and such.



Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on June 16, 2011, 04:45:14 PM
I wasn't paying too close attention earlier this week, but Christchurch had a couple more 6.0-range earthquakes.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on June 22, 2011, 07:43:40 AM
omg, TAR 19 is now racing and info removed and my country, the Philippines are now have these 2 typhoons that cross to it for a week and hopefully that won't be affected if they'll visit to my country for that season within this week. :'(


no spoilers in discussion threads please.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on July 09, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysian police fired repeated rounds of tear gas and detained over 1,400 people in the capital on Saturday as thousands of activists evaded roadblocks and barbed wire to hold a street protest against Prime Minister Najib Razak's government.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Alfwin on July 09, 2011, 09:34:52 PM
TOKYO (AP) — A strong earthquake with a magnitude of 7.1 hit Japan's northeastern coast on Sunday, prompting a tsunami warning for the area still recovering from a devastating quake and killer wave four months ago.

Residents in coastal areas were warned to evacuate, but there were no immediate reports of damage.

The quake hit at 9:57 local time (0057 GMT), and a warning of a possible tsunami was issued for most of the northeastern coastline. The epicenter of the quake was in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Japan's main island, Honshu, at a depth of about 6 miles (10 kilometers).

Officials said they expected tsunami of less than one meter in some areas.

Japan's northeastern coastline was devastated by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11 that left nearly 23,000 dead or missing and touched off a nuclear crisis at a badly damaged facility in Fukushima.

Officials said there were no reports of abnormalities at the Fukushima plant caused by Sunday's quake. Airports in the area were also functioning normally.

Japan is one of the world's most earthquake-prone countries. Dozens of strong aftershocks have been felt since the March 11 disaster, which measured a 9.0 magnitude and was the strongest in Japanese history.

Sunday's quake registered 4 on the Japanese scale of 7, meaning it was felt as moderately strong. Because of the damage from the March quake and tsunami, however, many buildings in the area are structurally weak and seawalls have been destroyed, making the region more vulnerable to relatively weaker quakes.

Hang on Japan!  :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: kenchan on July 09, 2011, 11:11:36 PM
Thanks Alfwin...
Here is the USGS page on that quake, registered as a 7.0.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2011/usc0004sg6/

The quake happened over 3 hrs ago and the Tsunami alert was cancelled 2 hrs ago. Looks like "the coast is clear", but I did see a report of a 10cm wave in Iwate.

Nearly 4 months after 3/11 and "aftershocks" are still happening. This is terrifying, given the Japanese media and twittersphere are filled with many disheartening stories too sad to share here...

Saving grace for Japan today: the Women's soccer team beat the reigning champs Germany in the FIFA Women's World Cup. GO NADESHIKO, ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on July 10, 2011, 12:29:49 AM
The strong aftershicks and secondary quakes go on for months after the main quake occurs. We're seeing this in Japan, and in New Zealand, and it was the case in the other earthquakes in the past decade, such as the Great Tsunami earthquake at Christmas 2004, and the earthquake a few years ago that generated deadly tsunami in Samoa, Chile, and China.

The Japanese have been luckier than the folks in Christchurch, that is for sure. The city centre and neighborhoods that haves shown to be quite unstable are not going to be rebuilt, those areas are being bought out and turned into greenbelts/ That's a smart move.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on July 13, 2011, 10:52:14 AM
Mumbai bombing

http://news.yahoo.com/three-blasts-indias-mumbai-police-135216819.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on July 17, 2011, 09:30:13 AM
another volcano in Indonesia erupted: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14176465 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14176465)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on July 17, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
The "Ring of Fire" has been extremely active this past year. If you don't know what that refers to, google it.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Flamant on July 17, 2011, 04:08:38 PM
The "Ring of Fire" has been extremely active this past year.

Yeah... there were earthquakes and volcanoe irruptions almost everywhere... New Zealand, Indonesia, Japan, Alaska, Chili. The only place there have been nothing (yet) is on the west coast of North America. If I was living there, I would move out quick.  :escape
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on July 20, 2011, 07:55:02 AM
NO SPOILERS IN NON-SPOILER THREADS PLEASE.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: coolio on July 20, 2011, 03:18:33 PM

Hey topaz! NO SPOILERS!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Aussie on July 22, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2011/0723/1224301203227.html

Oslo Bombing.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on July 24, 2011, 03:57:00 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14262276

Zheijiang Province was visited in TAR China Rush.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on July 27, 2011, 04:35:46 AM
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Philippines-braces-as-storm-kills-14-20110727 - Legazpi City in TARA 4
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14304096 - Fatal landslide in Korea
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Cocoa on July 27, 2011, 05:14:45 AM
I think there is a need to append the word "TAR Disaster Awareness" in the title to perfectly fit everything in this thread. :tup:

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on August 10, 2011, 06:52:01 AM
Riots in London - TAR 17
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Reilly Queens on August 10, 2011, 07:34:53 AM
Riots in London - TAR 17


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2087701,00.html

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The morning after riots gripped its main shopping thoroughfare, parts of Ealing, northwest London, looked less like a middle-class suburb and more like a war zone. On the night of Aug. 8, a group of hooded youths ran up the street throwing trash bins while others stomped on the top of police patrol cars. Still others shattered through glass phone booths and set cars on fire, not far from the town's picturesque rows of Victorian houses. Simon Kirby, who runs Flower Haven, a small florist, says his brother phoned him at 6:30 a.m. to let him know that his shop's windows had been smashed and his floral displays ransacked. The violence sickens him, but he understands why disaffected youth — whom he thinks traveled to Ealing from elsewhere — would lash out. "If they had something to do, if they had money and jobs, they wouldn't do this," he says. "They see footballers who all have lots of money but aren't very bright, and they want to know why they don't have any."
In the three days that followed the initial riots in Tottenham, disgruntled youth across the country have shown they're ready for a riot — and whatever status and material objects their disobedience may confer on them. By 5:30 p.m. on Tuesday, mobs were disturbing the peace for the fourth consecutive evening. In Manchester, hundreds of youth — some clad in balaclavas, others in ski masks — fought running battles with police. In Salford, a nearby suburb, separate groups of hooligans looted a liquor shop and set a clothing store on fire. In Nottingham, a group of at least 30 men firebombed a police station. And in Birmingham, a hit-and-run driver killed three men who had taken to the streets to protect local shops. That unrest followed copycat lootings and violence that had already taken place in other major hubs including Bristol and Liverpool. Nationwide, police have now made more than 1,000 arrests.
(See photos of the riots in England.)
Paul Bagguley, a sociologist at the University of Leeds, believes rioting will continue to spread to other cities unless police step up their intervention. The brigands hurling bricks through windows aren't doing so out of solidarity with the people of Tottenham. "They are making a rational calculation that they can go out and do this," he says. "They see on television and the Internet people looting shops, going in and walking out with new mobile phones and flat-screen TVs. And no one is stopping them." That might explain the images of one teenager calmly texting someone on her phone as she stands among looters in a computer store in Croydon or of the looters in Brixton who stood in line to try on a pair of stolen sneakers.
Bulking up the police presence — 16,000 officers policed the streets last night, compared with 6,000 the night before — did much to turn off would-be vandals. London saw relative calm for the first time since Aug. 6, though there were a few minor clashes as community vigilantes took security into their own hands. The decision to release images of rioters, culled from CCTV footage, on the London police's Flickr page and via the BBC on Tuesday afternoon has also sent a strong message that authorities — and the wider public — want to see justice served. The police's Flickr page received around 3 million hits within five hours of going live.
(Read "The Great Riot of London: The Stakes for David Cameron.")
But arrests resulting from those photos may not come for months, if at all. And they will do little to resolve the underlying issues that are now boiling over. Racial tensions have fomented much of the anger that's being released, and that informs the deteriorating relationship between officers and the communities they police. In the past five years, the number of black and South Asian people stopped and searched by the police in the country has nearly doubled to 310,000. "Most of the time the police don't find anything," Bagguley says. "I think what we're seeing is partly a consequence of those tactics." That many of the looters come from high-crime areas that are heavily policed strains the relationship even more. The riots in Hackney on the afternoon of Aug. 8 reportedly kicked off after one of these searches.
(See more about the events in Ealing.)
Social scientists say it's too simplistic to make a direct connection between Britain's austerity cuts and the mob violence. But the effects of those cuts may influence idle young people. The issue, sociologists say, is not that youth are unemployed. It's that they're unoccupied — and therefore more likely to loiter on the streets and in shopping centers, and to get wrapped up in the madness of rebellion. Tottenham, for instance, is in the borough of Haringey, where the local council had to shut 8 of its 13 youth centers at the beginning of July. The centers had offered courses on everything from beauty treatments to DJing, and services ranging from ***ual-health tests to exam revision. "A lot of those radicalized youth who were on the street Saturday night would have been going to those youth centers," says Clifford Scott, a senior lecturer in social psychology at the University of Liverpool. "They no longer had anywhere else to go."
As the sun set on Tuesday evening and the country braced for a fourth night of riots, the BBC rolled footage of still more disturbances, this time in Wolverhampton, a town northwest of Birmingham. Groups of youth dressed in black hoodies ran down the street and set to attacking shops. Back in Ealing, local MP Virendra Sharma walked through the town after nightfall to reassure residents that peace had returned to the community. Businesses shut at 3 p.m. Many boarded up their windows anyway.
— With reporting by Sonia Van Gilder Cooke / London and Thomas K. Grose / Ealing


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2087701,00.html#ixzz1Ud39K3Hm
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on August 26, 2011, 11:55:44 PM
Typhoon Nanmadol (Mina) is now heading toward to Taiwan: http://ph.news.yahoo.com/taiwan-issues-sea-warning-typhoon-nanmadol-022607156.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: GabyM on August 27, 2011, 12:14:35 AM
Riots in London - TAR 17
Didn't they also visit London on TAR 7??
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on August 27, 2011, 12:27:51 PM
Riots in London - TAR 17
Didn't they also visit London on TAR 7??

Yeah, they did. :)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on August 28, 2011, 07:53:59 AM
Hurricane Irene..
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on September 25, 2011, 08:50:50 AM
another terror attack in Indonesia: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15051334 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15051334)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on October 10, 2011, 05:44:56 AM
Floods in Thailand http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15178872
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Flamant on October 15, 2011, 10:43:33 AM
Wow. In each seasons now, there's a disaster/conflict in a country visited almost at the same time by the Race.  :groan:
In TAR17, they visited South Korea when there was tension between them and North Korea.
In TAR 18, they were at the Japan pitstop when the earthquake/tsunami happenned.
Now, in TAR19, they are coming to Thailand & Bangkok, where theres one of the biggest flood in the countrys history, with it's capital being threatened by this too.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on October 18, 2011, 12:14:58 AM
Wow. In each seasons now, there's a disaster/conflict in a country visited almost at the same time by the Race.  :groan:
In TAR17, they visited South Korea when there was tension between them and North Korea.
In TAR 18, they were at the Japan pitstop when the earthquake/tsunami happenned.
Now, in TAR19, they are coming to Thailand & Bangkok, where theres one of the biggest flood in the countrys history, with it's capital being threatened by this too.

You forgot TAR 1 with September 11, TAR6 with the Indian Ocean Tsunami, and TAR 8 with Hurricane Katrina (and poor Schroeder family)...

But it is tragic...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Dom on October 18, 2011, 12:23:07 AM
I think we're losing sight of what the 'Disaster Curse' is all about. Its not just a list of bad things that have happened in the world.

It is referring to the coincidental timings of major disasters that have struck areas that The Amazing Race had just visited but had yet to air, which have occurred more times than what would be expected.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on October 18, 2011, 10:32:39 AM
I think so too, Dom. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on October 19, 2011, 02:48:43 PM
I do agree that the Bangkok flooding qualifies for the curse, quite a bit of the other stuff in this thread lately does not.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on October 19, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
I know exactly what the "curse" is defined as...but ALL of our locations are special to me, and if they are suffering even years later, I always like to know so I can hold the people in my thoughts. So...for me anyway, since I don't believe in "curses" anyhow, this is just a way to stay in touch with people and places that have touched my heart.

If it really bothers anyone, I can open a different thread, this just seems like a good place for location news.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Dom on October 20, 2011, 05:51:42 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15381227

It looks as though the Bangkok floods are getting worse. I'd fully expect a pre-show acknowledgement of the crisis on Sunday's airing of TAR.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theamazingracer21 on October 20, 2011, 06:35:46 AM
Wow. In each seasons now, there's a disaster/conflict in a country visited almost at the same time by the Race.  :groan:
In TAR17, they visited South Korea when there was tension between them and North Korea.
In TAR 18, they were at the Japan pitstop when the earthquake/tsunami happenned.
Now, in TAR19, they are coming to Thailand & Bangkok, where theres one of the biggest flood in the countrys history, with it's capital being threatened by this too.

You forgot TAR 1 with September 11, TAR6 with the Indian Ocean Tsunami, and TAR 8 with Hurricane Katrina (and poor Schroeder family)...

But it is tragic...

and you forgot tar aus 1 indoninsia volcanoes
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 29, 2011, 12:05:02 PM
This time the curse worked with extreme speed. TAR 20 flew on American Airlines to Argentina over the weekend and today American Airlines filed for Bankruptcy! Not even the outrageous day of the flight ticket prices that TAR pays could save the airline.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on November 29, 2011, 12:19:57 PM
Reading the business news stories on the filing, it appears the causes were the continuing high fuel prices and labor contracts; American is the last major U.S. carrier to file for bankruptcy reorganization to deal with both issues.
That may or may not qualify for the curse, but the extreme flooding in Bangkok certainly fit the traditional definition of the curse since the flooding began there before this season's episode aired that included Bangkpk.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Flamant on December 13, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
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Belgium grenade attack: latest
At least four people have been killed and dozens wounded when three grenades exploded outside the main courthouse in the eastern Belgian city of Liege.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/8953711/Belgium-grenade-attack-live.html

TAR just went to Belgium :cmas18
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2012, 07:49:19 AM
Warnings for Bangkok, Phuket, Chiang Mai:

http://news.yahoo.com/thailand-beefs-security-warning-attack-104634779.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Declive on January 14, 2012, 11:05:54 PM
Jet and Cord have the curse :

TAR16 on Chile -- Earthquake
TAR18 on Japan - Tsunami and Earthquakes

Sad thing to remember...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on January 22, 2012, 10:13:06 PM
Because this event deals with a TAR 20 location spoiler, I've put it in spoiler tags:
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Just heard that there was a 5.0 earthquake followed by aftershocks about 5 miles below the Big Island of Hawaii this afternoon/evening (1/22). http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/magnitude-5-0-shakes-1312769.html?cxtype=rss_news_81963 (http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/magnitude-5-0-shakes-1312769.html?cxtype=rss_news_81963)

Edited to add link to article from the Associated Press from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Declive on January 22, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
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Just heard that there was a 5.0 earthquake followed by aftershocks about 5 miles below the Hawaii island of Oahu (Honolulu) this afternoon/evening (1/22).

Prays. Hoping that nobody got hurt.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Declive on January 26, 2012, 01:35:29 AM
Earthquake 5.3 in Guam.

And in Rio de Janeiro two buildings and a house falled down today,close to the Municipal Theater,all the people there probably died.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Flamant on February 22, 2012, 05:22:49 PM
"Train Crash in Buenos Aires Kills At Least 49"
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/buenos-aires-train-crash/?scp=1&sq=buenos%20aires&st=cse
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on February 22, 2012, 07:59:15 PM
I just saw this too -_-

49 dead, hundreds injured in Buenos Aires train crash
A packed commuter train slammed into a retaining wall at a railway terminus in Buenos Aires during rush hour Wednesday, leaving at least 49 dead, 600 injured, and dozens trapped in the wreckage.

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49 dead, hundreds injured in Buenos Aires train crash
A packed commuter train slammed into a retaining wall at a railway terminus in Buenos Aires during rush hour Wednesday, leaving at least 49 dead, 600 injured, and dozens trapped in the wreckage.

"The train was full and the impact was tremendous," a passenger identified only as Ezequiel told local television, adding that medics at the scene appeared overwhelmed by the scale of the disaster.

Witnesses said the train's brakes failed as it was arriving at the Once station on the western outskirts of Buenos Aires.

Passengers were hurled on top of each other and knocked to the floor of the train "in the blink of an eye," some losing consciousness and others seriously injured, they said.

"Unfortunately, we must report that there are 49 dead in the accident," including a child, police spokesman Nestor Rodriguez told a news conference.

Civil defense officials said at least 600 people were hurt in the crash, including 200 seriously, making it among the deadliest rail accidents worldwide.

Medevac helicopters landed in the street outside the station to ferry the most seriously wounded to hospitals, as ambulances raced in and out of the area with the injured.

"There were people who were crushed and shouting desperately. I saw bodies and blood all over the place," said Alejandro Velazquez.

Argentine President Cristina Kirchner suspended a news conference on the dispute with Britain over the Falkland Islands following news of the crash.

Transportation Secretary Juan Pablo Schiavi said the train entered the station at a speed of 20 kilometers (12 miles) an hour, and failed to stop, crashing into a retaining wall at the end of the track.

"It was a very serious accident," he said at a news conference. "Cars piled up on top of each other and one them went six meters (yards) inside another car."

At least 30 people were trapped in the twisted wreckage of the first and second carriages, said Alberto Crescenti, the head of the city's emergency services office.

"Inside the first car there was a human wall," said a firefighter who asked not to be identified, likening the scene to that at a 1994 disco fire in which 194 people died heaped inside.

Firefighters and rescue workers had to break through skylights in the train's roofs and cut a path through the wreckage to those trapped inside.

Bodies were hauled out of the wreckage of the first car using a system pulleys, winches and belts, a police spokesman said.

The train's driver was injured but rescue workers pried him loose from the wreckage of his cabin. Local television showed images of him and several people being carried away on stretchers.

"I felt the explosion of the crash. It was very loud," said passenger Pedro Fuentes.

Another passenger, who identified herself as Myriam, said she was with her two children, aged six and four.

"In a blink of an eye we were on the floor. I don't know how we got out. The door crashed in one me, and I covered the girl."

The Sarmiento rail line, owned by private company TBA, links the center of Buenos Aires to a densely populated suburb 70 kilometers (44 miles) to the west of the city and uses rolling stock made in Japan and acquired in the 1960s.

As an investigation opened into the crash, rail workers complained about a lack of investment following the privatization of the rail network in the 1990s.

An employee with the rail line's maintenance department, Monica Slotauer, said "the brakes failed and this is the result of a lack of investment."

Rail unionist Roberto Nunez also complained of "irregularities, deficiencies and a situation limited to the provision of services," speaking on Radio del Plata.

The toll from Wednesday's crash surpassed the city's last major rail disaster just five months ago when two trains and a bus collided during rush hour, killing 11 people and injuring more than 200.

The region's transit system has been plagued with serious accidents in recent years.

In March 2008, 18 people were killed and 47 injured when a bus was hit by a train in Dolores, 212 kilometers (132 miles) south of Buenos Aires.

Argentina's deadliest train tragedy was in 1970, an accident that killed 236 people in northern Buenos Aires.

http://news.xin.msn.com/en/top-stories/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5917244

My heart goes out to all the friends and families of the victims! :( :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on March 15, 2012, 07:37:22 AM
A year after the big earthquake hits Japan, another one was hit yesterday: http://ph.news.yahoo.com/tsunami-warning-strong-quake-hits-northern-japan-094031180.html :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on March 23, 2012, 10:46:20 PM
when tar goes to japan earthquake happend
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Alenaveda on March 24, 2012, 11:06:50 AM
I just saw this too -_-

49 dead, hundreds injured in Buenos Aires train crash
A packed commuter train slammed into a retaining wall at a railway terminus in Buenos Aires during rush hour Wednesday, leaving at least 49 dead, 600 injured, and dozens trapped in the wreckage.

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49 dead, hundreds injured in Buenos Aires train crash
A packed commuter train slammed into a retaining wall at a railway terminus in Buenos Aires during rush hour Wednesday, leaving at least 49 dead, 600 injured, and dozens trapped in the wreckage.

"The train was full and the impact was tremendous," a passenger identified only as Ezequiel told local television, adding that medics at the scene appeared overwhelmed by the scale of the disaster.

Witnesses said the train's brakes failed as it was arriving at the Once station on the western outskirts of Buenos Aires.

Passengers were hurled on top of each other and knocked to the floor of the train "in the blink of an eye," some losing consciousness and others seriously injured, they said.

"Unfortunately, we must report that there are 49 dead in the accident," including a child, police spokesman Nestor Rodriguez told a news conference.

Civil defense officials said at least 600 people were hurt in the crash, including 200 seriously, making it among the deadliest rail accidents worldwide.

Medevac helicopters landed in the street outside the station to ferry the most seriously wounded to hospitals, as ambulances raced in and out of the area with the injured.

"There were people who were crushed and shouting desperately. I saw bodies and blood all over the place," said Alejandro Velazquez.

Argentine President Cristina Kirchner suspended a news conference on the dispute with Britain over the Falkland Islands following news of the crash.

Transportation Secretary Juan Pablo Schiavi said the train entered the station at a speed of 20 kilometers (12 miles) an hour, and failed to stop, crashing into a retaining wall at the end of the track.

"It was a very serious accident," he said at a news conference. "Cars piled up on top of each other and one them went six meters (yards) inside another car."

At least 30 people were trapped in the twisted wreckage of the first and second carriages, said Alberto Crescenti, the head of the city's emergency services office.

"Inside the first car there was a human wall," said a firefighter who asked not to be identified, likening the scene to that at a 1994 disco fire in which 194 people died heaped inside.

Firefighters and rescue workers had to break through skylights in the train's roofs and cut a path through the wreckage to those trapped inside.

Bodies were hauled out of the wreckage of the first car using a system pulleys, winches and belts, a police spokesman said.

The train's driver was injured but rescue workers pried him loose from the wreckage of his cabin. Local television showed images of him and several people being carried away on stretchers.

"I felt the explosion of the crash. It was very loud," said passenger Pedro Fuentes.

Another passenger, who identified herself as Myriam, said she was with her two children, aged six and four.

"In a blink of an eye we were on the floor. I don't know how we got out. The door crashed in one me, and I covered the girl."

The Sarmiento rail line, owned by private company TBA, links the center of Buenos Aires to a densely populated suburb 70 kilometers (44 miles) to the west of the city and uses rolling stock made in Japan and acquired in the 1960s.

As an investigation opened into the crash, rail workers complained about a lack of investment following the privatization of the rail network in the 1990s.

An employee with the rail line's maintenance department, Monica Slotauer, said "the brakes failed and this is the result of a lack of investment."

Rail unionist Roberto Nunez also complained of "irregularities, deficiencies and a situation limited to the provision of services," speaking on Radio del Plata.

The toll from Wednesday's crash surpassed the city's last major rail disaster just five months ago when two trains and a bus collided during rush hour, killing 11 people and injuring more than 200.

The region's transit system has been plagued with serious accidents in recent years.

In March 2008, 18 people were killed and 47 injured when a bus was hit by a train in Dolores, 212 kilometers (132 miles) south of Buenos Aires.

Argentina's deadliest train tragedy was in 1970, an accident that killed 236 people in northern Buenos Aires.

http://news.xin.msn.com/en/top-stories/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5917244

My heart goes out to all the friends and families of the victims! :( :'(

First, thanks guys for the condolences  :hrt:.
Second, the article has a data error:  the disco fire who claimed the lives of 194 persons wasn't in 1994.  It happened in 2004, the last time TAR had a leg near Buenos Aires (By the way, the disco was three hundreed meters of Once Station, where was the train crash).
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Prophet on April 07, 2012, 01:07:25 PM
Malawi's president Bingu wa Mutharika died in office a few days ago.

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The government of Malawi has officially confirmed the death of the country’s president, Bingu wa Mutharika. Addressing a news conference in the capital, Lilongwe, Banda said she is shocked and saddened by President Mutharika’s death.

Government officials said Mutharika suffered a heart attack on April 5 at his state house and was rushed to Kamuzu Central Hospital in Lilongwe.

Banda has said that the funeral arrangements will be announced later upon consultation among the government and members of the family.

“In the meantime I call upon Malawians to remain calm and keep peace in this time of bereavement and further direct that all national flags should be flown at half mast and that Malawi broadcasting corporation should play somber music," she said. "I also ask Malawians that we should mourn the father of this nation with dignity.”

Banda has declared 10 days of mourning. She said she is calling a Cabinet meeting to discuss funeral arrangements. The body of president Mutharika is still in South Africa.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Malawi-Mourns-Death-of-President-Mutharika-146524455.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on May 02, 2012, 08:58:51 AM
A ferry was capsized in Assam, India: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Assam_ferry_disaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Assam_ferry_disaster)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: bcp19 on May 03, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
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Just heard that there was a 5.0 earthquake followed by aftershocks about 5 miles below the Big Island of Hawaii this afternoon/evening (1/22). http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/magnitude-5-0-shakes-1312769.html?cxtype=rss_news_81963 (http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/magnitude-5-0-shakes-1312769.html?cxtype=rss_news_81963)

Edited to add link to article from the Associated Press from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

FYI, a 5.0 earthquake is almost not worth mentioning, and as a 'disaster' it's a bit laughable.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkaWv-iJDw4 gives a good indication of a 5.0 and as you can see, other than noise, it barely rippled the curtains.  The '94 quake that hit LA causing $20 billion in damages was a 6.7, which would have been 50x as powerful as a 5.0.  Imagine the camera jumping almost a foot in the air instead of a little rattle.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on May 06, 2012, 10:03:08 PM
On airing the final episode of TAR 20, a Japanese city was hit by a tornado (warning: mature content website): http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/05/07/japanese-city-devastated-by-tornado/
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Alenaveda on May 06, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
One month ago a tornado hit the southwest of the city of Buenos Aires and the state of Buenos Aires, killing 17 peoples.  One of the neirghboorhoods affected by the tornado was Mataderos, where the Liniers cattle market of the RB of Leg 2 is.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on May 08, 2012, 02:37:13 AM
due to my country, The Philippines will be feature on TAR Australia 2 this month, there was a TAR disaster curse that happened within the NAIA terminal 3 in Manila, and this one is now a hot topic on the social media.  Last Sunday, there was a brawl between a journalist by the name of Mon Tulfo and to the local showbiz couple of Raymart Santiago and Caudine Barretto inside of that said airport terminal: http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/raymart-santiago-and-mon-tulfo--fight--at-naia-3.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on May 08, 2012, 02:41:56 AM
^^ That is REALLY stretching the term "disaster curse". :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on May 08, 2012, 03:13:51 AM
^^ That is REALLY stretching the term "disaster curse". :lol3:
are you talking about the showbiz couple?  I wonder if they could join TAR Philippines, this year and that will be nice! :lol3: :tup:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on October 30, 2012, 12:22:38 PM
Well, we can add Superstorm Sandy and the final city of TAR 21 to the list of places hit by the "Curse." (Remember the strict definition of a natural disaster taking place in a location used that happens between the date of filming and the date of broadcast.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2012, 08:01:52 PM
I agree. This definitely qualifies. :(


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2012/10/30/sandy-flattens-houses-nyc-famed-coney-island/U77LppgNjq0KtphR88S9KO/story.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 01, 2012, 01:57:16 AM
Heart and prayers goes out to everyone affected in this disaster. Just a really dumb blonde question and am really interested as I'm a geography student..

Is it a trend for hurricanes to always occur in USA during the Nov-Dec period?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 01, 2012, 03:58:20 AM
Heart and prayers goes out to everyone affected in this disaster. Just a really dumb blonde question and am really interested as I'm a geography student..

Is it a trend for hurricanes to always occur in USA during the Nov-Dec period?

At sometime in the past, I read something that suggested it was more like mid June to Mid November. Hurricanes are possible before or after that, but it's much less likely. It is linked to the ocean temperatures that are highest in the summer and early fall, both from solar heating and because the Gulf Stream carries water north from the lower latitudes. Also, hurricanes affecting the USA are confined to the Atlantic Ocean and Caribbean Sea. The water off the west coast of the USA is carried down by currents from Alaska, so the water temperature is too cold for hurricanes. They have hurricanes off the west coast of Mexico though.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on November 01, 2012, 04:28:40 AM
Joab......

The offical hurricane season, in the USA, is June1 to Nov 30. Peak occurance is end of Aug and the first of Sept. Katrina was an late Aug hurricane.

This year, we have had an usually warm fall. The Gulf of Mexico and Carribean are still pretty warm. This hurricane, Sandy, started in the Carribiean. Most of the time, most of the hurricanes you will hear about, start off the coast of West Africa and traverse the Atlantic Ocean, north of the equator. They have lots and lots of ocean miles to build up great amounts of energy.

Sandy ended up being a convergence of three different weather events. The combined effects made the "event" much more damaging than would normally occur with just a hurricane.

This might help you understand       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricanes
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 01, 2012, 09:10:55 AM
I've learnt about how hurricanes are formed and know the theories to it, but it's always interesting to know the trends that it has always happened in the USA.. and indeed it's always in the latter part of the year!

Thank you all for your replies and let's keep those affected in prayers till this ordeal is over! :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Leafsfan on November 01, 2012, 09:47:11 AM
Heart and prayers goes out to everyone affected in this disaster. Just a really dumb blonde question and am really interested as I'm a geography student..

Is it a trend for hurricanes to always occur in USA during the Nov-Dec period?

I am a geography student too!  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on November 01, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
The hurricane that I personally remember the most is Hurricane Carla on Sept 11, 1961. It was a very large and powerful storm. Cat 4 when it hit land. But what was unique about Carla, it was the first hurricane to form after there was a weather satelite capable of taking pictures and transmitting the pictures back to ground stations. For the first time, people could see what was coming, days ahead of time and gave people the time to evacuate coastal areas. Approximate 1/2 million people got up and moved out of the way of Carla. There was a lot of property damage, but very small number of lives lost considering the size of the storm.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 02, 2012, 10:40:39 AM
The R&D into detecting hurricanes has indeed benefited and saved many lives. I personally remembered Katrina, that was my time I remembered I only got to know about hurricanes in USA because it was mentioned in TAR 8.. and the Schroeder family was greatly affected and went to stay with the Rogers, I think.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: AmazingRace on November 07, 2012, 01:36:39 AM
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DHAKA: Around 100 people are missing after a boat carrying Rohingya refugees sank off Bangladesh as it headed to Malaysia early on Wednesday, coastguard officials said.

 

Bangladesh Border Guard commander Lieutenant Colonel Zahid Hasan said the vessel was carrying around 110 passengers when it went down off the southwestern Cox's Bazaar coastal district. "We have rescued 11 survivors with the help of local fishermen and a search and rescue operation is underway," Hasan told AFP.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-74515-100-missing-as-Bangladesh-boat-sinks

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: addie on November 19, 2012, 03:05:14 PM
Bangladesh fire yesterday.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on November 21, 2012, 09:19:15 PM
"lord of The Rings" volcano erupts in New Zealand (just in case if this country will be feature on the upcoming TAR 22): http://ph.news.yahoo.com/volcano-erupts-zealands-north-island-scientists-013815196.html

MY PRESSSSIOUSSSS!!!! :iok 
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 05, 2013, 08:40:37 PM
Don't know for certain if the first few destinations for TAR 22 will be affected, but there's this:

Quote
Powerful quake strikes off Solomon Islands
By CNN Staff
updated 9:36 PM EST, Tue February 5, 2013

(CNN) -- An 8.0-magnitude earthquake struck off the Solomon Islands in the South Pacific early Wednesday, the U.S. Geological Survey reported, sparking a tsunami warning.

The center of the quake was located some 360 miles east-southeast of Honiara, the capital of the Solomon Islands, the USGS said. It was reported to be 3.6 miles deep.

A tsunami warning was issued for the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Tuvalu, New Caledonia, Kosrae, Fiji, Kiribati, and Wallis and Futuna, according to the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center.

A tsunami watch was in effect for more places: the Marshall Islands, Howland and Baker, Pohnpei, Tokelau, Samoa, Kermadec Islands, New Zealand, American Samoa, Tonga, Australia, Niue, Cook Islands, Indonesia, Wake Island, Chuuk, Jarvis Island, Guam, Northern Marianas, Palmyra Island, Yap, Johnston Island, Minamitorishima and Pelau.

Brian Shiro, a geophysicist at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, told CNN that instruments near the Solomon Islands indicated that a tsunami was in fact generated. It is 1 meter high, he said, describing it as "significant."

The event seems to be localized to the region, Shiro said, and authorities are still waiting to see if they want to expand the alert.

The quake was followed by several aftershocks in the region, the largest of which had a magnitude of 6.6, the USGS said.

There were no immediate reports of damage or injuries.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2013, 09:09:06 PM
Might be a Survivor one! Hope all is well....
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 05, 2013, 11:00:20 PM
There was a tsunami watch as well as a warning when I posted the article earlier, but both have now been cancelled.

The wider area of the watch was inclusive of areas we'd be concerned about, but the cancellation speaks for itself.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 11, 2013, 04:10:50 AM
It's not TAR, but I thought I'd mention that Pekin Express (or at least some of the teams) traveled through Hattiesburg, Mississippi early last week and yesterday a fairly strong tornado moved through Hattiesburg and damaged quite a few buildings including part of the local university. Reports also mention dozens of injuries but I haven't heard of any deaths.

Pekin Express sent their teams through historic flooding in Australia last season (much to the annoyance of Australian officials), so they are developing quite a track record of disasters of their own.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on February 11, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
It's not TAR, but I thought I'd mention that Pekin Express (or at least some of the teams) traveled through Hattiesburg, Mississippi early last week and yesterday a fairly strong tornado moved through Hattiesburg and damaged quite a few buildings including part of the local university. Reports also mention dozens of injuries but I haven't heard of any deaths.

Pekin Express sent their teams through historic flooding in Australia last season (much to the annoyance of Australian officials), so they are developing quite a track record of disasters of their own.

CNN is reporting that the tornado which hits Hattesburg, MS, was an EF4 (only one level below the worst) and that no one died in part because the storm hit on a weekend and because the university was closed for the Mardi Gras celebrations (Hattesburg is very close to New Orleans.)

But it is weird to read that one of the other editions is having a mothership-like disaster curse.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Kamineko on April 13, 2013, 04:02:46 AM
Don't want to say that this is a curse. Bur recently, a commercial flight in Indonesia, Lion Air, just slipped on a runway in Ngurah Rai International Airport, Bali and fell to the sea. Thank God all of the passengers are save. :luvya:

(http://images.detik.com/content/2013/04/13/10/151535_pesawatlion.jpg)

Link of the news (in Bahasa Indonesia) : http://news.detik.com/read/2013/04/13/151406/2219460/10/ini-dia-pesawat-lion-air-yang-jatuh-di-laut-bali
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on April 13, 2013, 04:14:00 AM
Poor Lion Air. :(

I'm glad all the passengers are safe.

*Doesn't insert endless ravings about Lion Air/Denpasar Intl/Boeing 737 here*  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: addie on April 13, 2013, 10:06:03 AM
Airlinesguy is back I suppose
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on April 13, 2013, 05:19:48 PM
For  the record, that incident involving Lion Air doesn't come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse. It took place outside of the period between filming and airing of this season's leg in Bali, and the incident wasn't a natural disaster.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on April 13, 2013, 06:36:02 PM
Airlinesguy is back I suppose

Yep. ;D
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: G.B. on April 13, 2013, 09:02:30 PM
I heard Bali on the news and the first thing I said was "Ah! TAR was just there!"
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on November 01, 2013, 12:11:35 PM
There has been an shooting incident with multiple victims inside Terminal 3 of LAX. (Isn't that the terminal TAR normally uses when the start is in LA?)

As I type this, there is very little known, but CNN-US is showing a number of first responders on the scene (as well as SWAT teams, firefighters and police) and the LAX terminals are being evacuated, and a ground stop has been placed on all flights in and out of LAX.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: stekay on November 01, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
There has been an shooting incident with multiple victims inside Terminal 3 of LAX. (Isn't that the terminal TAR normally uses when the start is in LA?)

As I type this, there is very little known, but CNN-US is showing a number of first responders on the scene (as well as SWAT teams, firefighters and police) and the LAX terminals are being evacuated, and a ground stop has been placed on all flights in and out of LAX.



Why do people do this  :groan: I hope the families of the victims can stay as calm as they can in this traged and that everyone else at the terminal is safe.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on November 01, 2013, 01:14:33 PM
UPDATE: It is still unclear what numbers may have been injured, but the shooter was wounded and taken into custody. That terminal is still being cleared, and ground traffic into and out of the LAX grounds is at a standstill. Only a very few flights are now leaving or arriving at LAX. The international terminal is terminal 2, and it is being used to hold people evacuated from terminal 3. Most injured were from the stampede of people getting away from the gate.
The LAX police and the LAPD will hold a press conference at 11:30 am PDT.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 01, 2013, 04:17:03 PM
Hoping and praying that everyone stays safe!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: slayton on November 01, 2013, 11:14:51 PM
Shouldn't the thread title be changed to TAR Natural Disaster Curse?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on November 01, 2013, 11:23:44 PM
No because plane crashes count.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on March 08, 2014, 01:49:54 AM
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared off the coast of Vietnam could count because it departed from Kuala Lumpur?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 08, 2014, 03:04:27 AM
I don't get it. Why do we have to link everything to TAR Disaster Curse?

This is way too far-fetch. Just because a plane departs from KLIA and assuming that it really crashed (not confirmed), doesn't mean that it has any relation to being a "TAR Curse". :res:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on March 08, 2014, 03:14:15 AM
PS: Don't mean to be rude Airlines. It's just, the whole incident hasn't even been confirmed as a crash (likely one), and it's just depressing when people do immediately jump into saying that it is a disaster already.. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on March 08, 2014, 03:18:45 AM
I don't get it. Why do we have to link everything to TAR Disaster Curse?

This is way too far-fetch. Just because a plane departs from KLIA and assuming that it really crashed (not confirmed), doesn't mean that it has any relation to being a "TAR Curse". :res:

http://www.airlinereporter.com/2014/03/breaking-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-missing/
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 08, 2014, 01:48:31 PM
This one is marginal as best as the disaster didn't occur in K.L., and there's now a question about two of the passengers who apparently were traveling on stolen passports (the persons whose passports were used are alive and well elsewhere).

Personally, I don't think this one is going to count because of that factor; there appears to be a potentially sinister cause afoot.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on April 01, 2014, 07:02:07 PM
I just heard that there was an 8.0 earthquake 83 km northwest of Iquique, Chile 15 minutes ago as I type this. That's got to have created damage and injuries/deaths. My heart goes out to the people of Northern Chile and Southern Peru.

Update: The earthquake (which was centered offshore) has been revised upward to 8.2. There has a been a tsunami of about 5.5 feet (1.7 m) along the Chilean coast.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: themikko95 on April 01, 2014, 07:51:26 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jimmer on April 01, 2014, 08:21:44 PM
I hope Vitoko is okay. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Vitoko on April 01, 2014, 09:52:53 PM
I'm ok. I wasn't with my family at the moment but we are all together now. There is a fire going on. Supermarkets were attacked at the moment. The entiee coast line was evacuated in case of tsunami but i believe a wave hit already. We are all a bit shaken but we'll be fine. Thanks for worrying about me guys. Thanks Xarles for the message.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on April 01, 2014, 10:50:37 PM
I'm glad to hear that you and your family are OK. I hope that the damage in Iquique and the surrounding region isn't too bad and that life will get back to normal before long.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: David on April 02, 2014, 03:04:59 AM
Vitoko <3333

I just cannot explain how sad it is to have a TAR disaster course thread with RFFers who can explain what has happened to them.

Prayers to you and to people in Chile to get better <3
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Vitoko on April 02, 2014, 09:39:49 AM
I guessthe disaster curse needed to hit at some point.

I'm ok guys, I've been posting from my grandmother house that got electric power back.
I guess I'll report what I can about the Tar locations when everything go back to normal
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: maf on April 04, 2014, 01:10:16 AM
Boston globe has a number of pictures from Iquique on the web. A couple of them clearly show the roadblock location. The stairs where the contestants waited now has a boat on them. See http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2014/04/earthquake_off_the_coast_of_chile.html (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2014/04/earthquake_off_the_coast_of_chile.html)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 04, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
Thanks Maf! Look:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2023/Iquique/TAR23RBbeforeandafterEarthquake.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: DrRox on April 13, 2014, 02:10:15 PM
This is just an announcement for the members, no curse at all. There are multiple fires in Valparaiso and Pina del Mar, Chile. Estimates are that over 500 homes have been destroyed. The fireman are having a very difficult time fighting the fire because of the hillside homes and high winds.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on September 19, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
since my country will be feature on upcoming TAR 25, will this be counted?

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/tropical-storm-flooding-shuts-down-philippine-capital-051633808.html (https://ph.news.yahoo.com/tropical-storm-flooding-shuts-down-philippine-capital-051633808.html)

Oh, how I remembered when the Typhoon Ondoy hit the Philippines, 5 years ago. :'(

And also this one as well: https://ph.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/thousands-flee-mayon-spews-lava-000544052.html;_ylt=A2oKmKP3TRxU0EIAu22zRwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTB1cmpvOGg2BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA3NnMwR2dGlkA1ZJUFBIMDNfMQ-- (https://ph.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/thousands-flee-mayon-spews-lava-000544052.html;_ylt=A2oKmKP3TRxU0EIAu22zRwx.;_ylu=X3oDMTB1cmpvOGg2BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA3NnMwR2dGlkA1ZJUFBIMDNfMQ--)  Remember that volcano on TARA 4?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on December 03, 2014, 06:13:09 AM
everyone, pleae pray for my country's safety!

Super Typhoon Hagupit (Filipino word for wrath) will hit to my country this weekend and we've never recovered yet from last year's devastating Haiyan (Yolanda): http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/390852/weather/govt-56-provinces-critical-as-hagupit-approaches-phl

 :'( :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on December 12, 2014, 03:20:17 AM
After a big typhoon that hit in my country last week, there's another "typhoon" that will hit on the final leg & finish line on TAR 25 and that is on LA: https://ph.news.yahoo.com/strongest-storm-years-batters-california-020233719.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: MrDeerShank on December 12, 2014, 03:50:04 AM
There's currently a huge weatherbomb across Scotland at the moment that's expected to make it's way on to the Eastern parts by the end of this week/start of early next week and will bring it massive winds of up to 80 mph and torrential rain - yay!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on December 30, 2014, 10:28:24 AM
Nobody mentioned about the latest AirAsia incident which supposedly crashed on its way to Singapore? :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: naejae91 on December 30, 2014, 06:31:44 PM
Nobody mentioned about the latest AirAsia incident which supposedly crashed on its way to Singapore? :cmas4

The plane was suppose departed from Surabaya, Indonesia (Visited in TAR 21) to Singapore (Visited in TAR 25) was crashed somewhere near Sumatera Island IIRC. OMG, 2014 is the big tragedy year for airlines company in Malaysia.  :cmas4  :cmas4  :cmas4

Scenario in TAR: AirAsia might be blacklisted and racers are not allowed to purchase AirAsia ticket in TAR 27 and beyond.  :cmas4  :cmas4  :cmas4
(So Malaysia might not be visited in future seasons? Because most of the air transport in Malaysia are dominated by Malaysia Airlines and AirAsia.)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on January 01, 2015, 02:20:47 AM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.


Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on January 01, 2015, 03:34:38 AM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

There was another plane in the way.

http://redshopeweekly.wordpress.com/2014/12/31/no-happy-new-year/
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on January 01, 2015, 05:10:01 AM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

Indonesia AirAsia has its headquarters in Tangerang, Indonesia, not Malaysia.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Leilani on January 01, 2015, 04:41:59 PM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

The reports I've heard have indicated that a change in altitude at that point would have put them in the flight paths of other planes.  Supposedly they were told that they would be able to change altitude at a later point after they had cleared the other air traffic.  I'm not sure if that's what the media was told or if they're speculating on the second part.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2015, 06:11:23 AM
http://ktla.com/2015/01/03/preliminary-magnitude-3-0-earthquake-strikes-near-castaic-usgs/ (http://ktla.com/2015/01/03/preliminary-magnitude-3-0-earthquake-strikes-near-castaic-usgs/)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on January 04, 2015, 08:37:59 AM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

Indonesia AirAsia has its headquarters in Tangerang, Indonesia, not Malaysia.

I think he's trying to mean that AirAsia belongs to Malaysia. And I think there were other plane crashes this year, including TransAsia in Taiwan plus an African airline... I think it's Ethiopian Airlines. These were the "major" commercial airlines crashes with many fatalities I think.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on January 04, 2015, 08:45:46 AM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

Indonesia AirAsia has its headquarters in Tangerang, Indonesia, not Malaysia.

I think he's trying to mean that AirAsia belongs to Malaysia. And I think there were other plane crashes this year, including TransAsia in Taiwan plus an African airline... I think it's Ethiopian Airlines. These were the "major" commercial airlines crashes with many fatalities I think.

Indonesia AirAsia is not majority owned by AirAsia though. Also funfacts in terms of flights per fatal accident 2014 was the safest year ever. Also the African airline is Air Algerie.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: redskevin88 on January 09, 2015, 06:46:23 PM
Terrorist attacks in Paris, France. Sad.  :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on January 09, 2015, 10:22:11 PM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

Indonesia AirAsia has its headquarters in Tangerang, Indonesia, not Malaysia.

I think he's trying to mean that AirAsia belongs to Malaysia. And I think there were other plane crashes this year, including TransAsia in Taiwan plus an African airline... I think it's Ethiopian Airlines. These were the "major" commercial airlines crashes with many fatalities I think.

Indonesia AirAsia is not majority owned by AirAsia though. Also funfacts in terms of flights per fatal accident 2014 was the safest year ever. Also the African airline is Air Algerie.

Yea, but the idea is that, AirAsia is still headquartered in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and it is the parent company of Indonesia AirAsia..? #ImDoneHere lol
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Lemontail on January 09, 2015, 11:44:42 PM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

Indonesia AirAsia has its headquarters in Tangerang, Indonesia, not Malaysia.

I think he's trying to mean that AirAsia belongs to Malaysia. And I think there were other plane crashes this year, including TransAsia in Taiwan plus an African airline... I think it's Ethiopian Airlines. These were the "major" commercial airlines crashes with many fatalities I think.

Indonesia AirAsia is not majority owned by AirAsia though. Also funfacts in terms of flights per fatal accident 2014 was the safest year ever. Also the African airline is Air Algerie.

Yea, but the idea is that, AirAsia is still headquartered in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and it is the parent company of Indonesia AirAsia..? #ImDoneHere lol

They're affiliates, not owned by AirAsia.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on January 10, 2015, 05:59:04 AM
While the Air Asia disaster is tragic -- I don't understand why air traffic control denied the pilot's request to ascend above the thunderstorms on the flight path -- it technically does not come within the definition of the TAR disaster curse because it didn't happen in the time period between the filming and U.S. broadcast of the TAR 25 Singapore leg.

It is insane that the two airlines involved in the three air disasters of 2014are both headquartered in Mayalsia but so far, the issue of the weather and the ATC handling of the pilot's altitude request seem to be the main cause for concern and that may not be viewed as an airline safety problem. From what I know of the U.S. federal aviation regulations, a request of that kind from a pilot is to be granted unless there's something highly unusual that requires a denial. And I've not heard a thing along those lines.

Indonesia AirAsia has its headquarters in Tangerang, Indonesia, not Malaysia.

I think he's trying to mean that AirAsia belongs to Malaysia. And I think there were other plane crashes this year, including TransAsia in Taiwan plus an African airline... I think it's Ethiopian Airlines. These were the "major" commercial airlines crashes with many fatalities I think.

Indonesia AirAsia is not majority owned by AirAsia though. Also funfacts in terms of flights per fatal accident 2014 was the safest year ever. Also the African airline is Air Algerie.

Yea, but the idea is that, AirAsia is still headquartered in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and it is the parent company of Indonesia AirAsia..? #ImDoneHere lol

They're affiliates, not owned by AirAsia.

^^ (AirAsia do have a minority stake but it is majority owned by PT Fersindo Nusaperkasa (probably butchered that)), and has its HQ in Tangerang, Indonesia.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: topaz on March 25, 2015, 07:07:40 AM
since Germany is now feature on TAR 26, here's the latest disaster curse: https://ph.news.yahoo.com/latest-germanwings-says-plane-went-142004545.html
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on March 25, 2015, 09:30:22 AM
since Germany is now feature on TAR 26, here's the latest disaster curse: https://ph.news.yahoo.com/latest-germanwings-says-plane-went-142004545.html

are you crazy plane crash was in france
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: TerraformingYou on March 25, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
since Germany is now feature on TAR 26, here's the latest disaster curse: https://ph.news.yahoo.com/latest-germanwings-says-plane-went-142004545.html

are you stupid plane crash was in france


Well technically the destination was Dusseldorf in Germany..
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: naejae91 on March 25, 2015, 10:02:57 AM
since Germany is now feature on TAR 26, here's the latest disaster curse: https://ph.news.yahoo.com/latest-germanwings-says-plane-went-142004545.html (https://ph.news.yahoo.com/latest-germanwings-says-plane-went-142004545.html)

are you stupid plane crash was in france


Oh no. Hope all of them survive. Btw France was also feature in TAR26 IIRC?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Hysha on March 25, 2015, 11:46:34 AM
since Germany is now feature on TAR 26, here's the latest disaster curse: https://ph.news.yahoo.com/latest-germanwings-says-plane-went-142004545.html (https://ph.news.yahoo.com/latest-germanwings-says-plane-went-142004545.html)

are you stupid plane crash was in france


Oh no. Hope all of them survive. Btw France was also feature in TAR26 IIRC?

Sadly, no one survived.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Boingo on March 26, 2015, 09:56:04 PM
 :ascared  Took a trip in the RFF time machine through the TAR archives to pull up this "coincidence".

GMan's Germanwings spoiler (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,5559.msg68952.html#msg68952)

 Seems some TAR 7 Episode 11 racers flew on Germanwings.   :ascared   Bit of a stretch, but yet another disaster waiting to happen, 10 years later. OK, maybe not, but still scary.   :o

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Area51 on March 27, 2015, 08:49:09 AM
Sorry but people can find "events all over the place to fit their theories.  For example, there is no "Bermuda Triangle " that eats planes and ships.  it has been proven that there are no more incidents in that area than in any other that has equivalent traffic.  TAR has a huge amount of travel in every show so there are going to be things happen in the same area they have been what, ten years ago?  Come on.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 27, 2015, 09:24:06 AM
I do not believe in a TAR Disaster Curse...but tracking coincidences is fun.

Meanwhile, my heart goes out to the friends and families of those on the flight lost...so very very sad.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on March 31, 2015, 11:45:10 PM
The whole thing with Germanwings is sad, and concerning, and maybe some things in commercial passnger aviation will finally be changed.

I'm not sure that this air disaster technically counts, because it did happen in France, and not Germany. But at least one change has already happened, with Europe and other areas adopting the previously adopted rule in the US and Canada requiring two crew members to be in the cockpit at all times.
Hopefully, they can come up with a better system than self-reporting of psychological health issues, since once hired, most airlines never check their pilots on that score ever again.
And it's about time for GPS real-time tracking, and real-time video feed from the cockpit to the ground air traffic control.
And perhaps an "escape mechanism" to allow pilots and or crews to unlock the cabin door in an emergency (perhaps like the three key military system for nuclear codes) that are unique and independent. There's a reason for a locked cabin in terms of hijackings that go back to the 1960s, but there also needs to be a way to get into the locked cabin in an emergency, such as this flight, the recent Silk Airways disaster, and the United Flight 92 on 9/11.

It is very odd to have this many major airline disasters (five) in just over a year. I don't think we've had this many in such a short period since 9/11.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on April 01, 2015, 10:24:44 AM
The whole thing with Germanwings is sad, and concerning, and maybe some things in commercial passnger aviation will finally be changed.

I'm not sure that this air disaster technically counts, because it did happen in France, and not Germany. But at least one change has already happened, with Europe and other areas adopting the previously adopted rule in the US and Canada requiring two crew members to be in the cockpit at all times.
Hopefully, they can come up with a better system than self-reporting of psychological health issues, since once hired, most airlines never check their pilots on that score ever again.
And it's about time for GPS real-time tracking, and real-time video feed from the cockpit to the ground air traffic control.
And perhaps an "escape mechanism" to allow pilots and or crews to unlock the cabin door in an emergency (perhaps like the three key military system for nuclear codes) that are unique and independent. There's a reason for a locked cabin in terms of hijackings that go back to the 1960s, but there also needs to be a way to get into the locked cabin in an emergency, such as this flight, the recent Silk Airways disaster, and the United Flight 92 on 9/11.

It is very odd to have this many major airline disasters (five) in just over a year. I don't think we've had this many in such a short period since 9/11.

i beive it was suicide belive it was airline thought 
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: NMC on April 19, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
A ship carrying African immigrants heading for Europe sank just off the coast of Namibia.  It's believed that over 700 people lost their lives.  :(

This curse is pretty crazy!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2015, 03:22:34 PM
Y'all are REALLY reaching.   :browsie:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: NMC on April 19, 2015, 04:20:37 PM
Y'all are REALLY reaching.   :browsie:

Yea, your probably right, but I just thought it was a massive coincidence that it happened the day after the Namibia Leg aired.  :iok
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Alenaveda on April 19, 2015, 05:01:46 PM
Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong; but haven't this happened near Sicily? I mean the number of victims is similar to the disaster in the Mediterranean Sea near to Lampedusa this early morning.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Air on April 19, 2015, 06:51:36 PM
Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong; but haven't this happened near Sicily? I mean the number of victims is similar to the disaster in the Mediterranean Sea near to Lampedusa this early morning.
Yeah I don't think it was off Namibia.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2015, 07:02:39 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: NMC on April 20, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong; but haven't this happened near Sicily? I mean the number of victims is similar to the disaster in the Mediterranean Sea near to Lampedusa this early morning.
Yeah I don't think it was off Namibia.

Wow, that really is my bad.  :groan:
Could've sworn I heard them say Namibia in the news?  ???   Sorry guys.  :iok
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Ticasmom on April 25, 2015, 07:10:43 PM
Regarding Chile's volcano eruption:  TAR 16 did go to Puerto Varas where the Calbuco volcano is erupting.  All that lush green countryside is now covered by volcanic ash as much as 3 feet deep.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BritishTARFan on April 28, 2015, 04:17:52 PM
This thread is depressing
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: stekay on April 28, 2015, 04:41:26 PM
why does this thread exist tbh..
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: G.B. on April 28, 2015, 06:40:19 PM
I think peoples' understanding of what is the 'disaster curse' has been lost to the sands somewhere.

It was originally (as far as I know) a reference to the fact that multiple locations had been visited for filming, and then nearly immediately after been hit with a disaster before airing. At least three of these got special messages in the episodes (Sri Lanka, Louisiana, Chile).

But now the thread is just reduced to "TAR was in Malaysia like 5 months ago and now something bad happened there! CURSE!!!"
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: stekay on April 28, 2015, 06:46:33 PM
Like all the countries around the tropics are prone to natural hazards and TAR generally visits at least 1 country in this region per season.

Like...dying embers..
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on April 29, 2015, 06:05:14 PM
NEPAL.
 
 :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: naejae91 on April 30, 2015, 08:05:10 AM
NEPAL.
 
 :'( :'( :'(


It was too devastating to see Nepal now. Everybody was lost their love and homeless.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Alenaveda on August 13, 2015, 09:31:11 PM
San Antonio de Areco was under water for the last two weeks. Due to the heavy rains in the Province of Buenos Aires the river Areco overflowed and the subsequent flood cut the access to the city through the routes 8 y 9. There was people evacuated and material damages.
Luckily the waters are now receding and the situation is getting back to normality.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Boingo on August 17, 2015, 12:18:06 PM
 
 :ascared  And so the curse continues.... or at least a coincidence. 

According to the latest news today, the Hindu Erawan Shrine in Central Bangkok Thailand was rocked by a large explosion.  Can't recall if this shrine was visited by a recent TAR season.  Need to check the archives.  Either way, traveling around the world can be dangerous sometimes.  :(

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Keepcopz on August 17, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
Yeah, I believe it visited back in Season 2.

The bomb is really dangerous and lots of people were dead and injured because it happened in the Central Bangkok where lots of skytrain and public transportation is crowded. Especially in Bangkok, they're very strict about the checking right now. Lots of cop patrol around and check car. The schools even take a break tomorrow in the area of Bangkok. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ZBC Company on August 17, 2015, 01:02:38 PM
i think this terroisim
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on August 25, 2015, 05:29:08 AM
Only a small handful of locations have had a tragic event between the time of filming and broadcast; and oddly enough, 9/11 in NYC counts due to the final leg of that first season although that one wasn't acknowledged on air by the show.

The disaster curse shouldn't be applied in any other scenario.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: fossil-racer on September 16, 2015, 07:12:08 PM
8.3 earthquake in Chile recently
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Plaidmoon on September 16, 2015, 07:15:44 PM
I don't buy in to a TAR disaster curse, but I'll mention the latest big earthquake here. About an hour ago, there was an 8.3 magnitude earthquake off the coast of Chile. It was located about 150 miles northwest of Santiago and some hundreds of miles Southwest of Iquique. Early reports say there are no reports of damage or injury, but I imagine that communications are a mess at this time. There are also tsunami warnings out for Chile and Peru and watches for much of the Pacific islands, including Hawaii.

My best wishes and prayers go out to the Chilean people and I hope it all turns out to be a minor incident.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on September 16, 2015, 09:36:22 PM
There isn't a lot to go on but, but if tsunami waves have formed, the various monitoring stations for the Pacific will have that soon. 8.3 is a very powerful earthquake and at this point it all depends on how the energy from the quake is translated into the ocean wave action.

My hopes and prays go out to the people in Chile, and my prayers that everyone in the Pacific remains safe.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on September 17, 2015, 12:16:05 AM
While 10-foot waves were reported at one offshore buoy near Chile, as a whole the wide areas affected are forecast to see not more than three feet waves, including southern California (LA and Santa Barbara), Hawaii, and American Samoa. Most of these are expected to reach these areas after midnight local times, and the affected areas include Antarctica(!) and French Polynesia. The advisories I've seen from the National Weather Service are cautioning for both tidal action and rip currents. Let's just hope that people take no chances and evacuate to higher ground until the all clear is given.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on November 13, 2015, 03:45:57 PM
Terrorist attack actually in Paris, we speak about 18 deads, there is also a hostage scene at the bataclan.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 13, 2015, 04:11:02 PM
Terrorist attack actually in Paris, we speak about 18 deads, there is also a hostage scene at the bataclan.
Sending condolences and prayers of safety for Paris residents and innocent visitors. Clearly, more needs to be done to resolve the issue. This has been the umpteenth terror incident in 2015 for the city. :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on November 13, 2015, 04:39:06 PM
There is around 60 deads...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Boingo on November 13, 2015, 04:39:45 PM

and so the TAR curse coincidence continues......  :'(

Twitter #ParisShooting link (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ParisShooting&src=tyah)

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: stekay on November 13, 2015, 04:43:07 PM
This is awful.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: JSM on November 13, 2015, 04:46:35 PM
This is terrible, a real tragedy..
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on November 13, 2015, 04:51:17 PM

and so the TAR curse coincidence continues......  :'(

Twitter #ParisShooting link (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ParisShooting&src=tyah)

Great sense of sadness for those shot or wounded. If anything sends TAR back to the bench, it will be having the entire world become unsafe for travelers, so let's hope that scenario can be avoided.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on November 13, 2015, 05:06:54 PM
The president of France François Hollande declare two things in a speech:
- The frontiers of France are now closed
- The Emergency state is pronounced for the entire country.

What a shock for France...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theamazingracer21 on November 13, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
I woke up and this is what's on the morning news.

Hopefully everything gets ok but if they are closing borders and enacted a curfew, it must be serious.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Vitoko on November 13, 2015, 06:01:00 PM
I got out my house and there was 18 possible deads. Maybe two hours later I hear 60 people confirmed dead. Borders are now closed and there were 7 points of attacks and a hostage  situation. What is happening? This is so wrong. I feel sad... I hope everyone stays safe as the night goes on.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on November 13, 2015, 06:09:49 PM
The hostage scene is finish at the bataclan. There is a music show with 1500 people Inside. They speak around some dozens of dead...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on November 13, 2015, 06:12:27 PM
100 deads at the bataclan...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2015, 06:17:21 PM
Sending love and prayers to all our Paris friends.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: stekay on November 13, 2015, 06:23:14 PM
This is just heart-breaking.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Lemontail on November 13, 2015, 06:34:44 PM
This is sad. I hope Eiffel Tower is fine. I wish that all Parisians are fine. Even my uncle's family is in Belgium. Hope we can achieve a world peace.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: paradoxinee on November 13, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
:( Waiting for all my friends in Paris confirm their safety. This is terrible. Prays for all people in Paris.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: elthemagnifico on November 14, 2015, 12:40:49 AM
#PrayforParis  :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Genius on November 14, 2015, 12:50:24 AM
When I saw the news on TV, the first thought I had was "Oh dear, yet another terrorist attack in Paris." My second thought was "TAR Disaster Curse" and I immediately came to visit this thread.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on November 14, 2015, 12:57:36 AM
It's the morning in France. For the moment, 120 are dead, 210 people are injured and 80 of them are serious. School, university, supermarket and others places in Paris are closed for the weekend. The news are horrible, we lived in a nightmare. We speak about 8 terrorist, some of them got an explosive belt. The taxi was free at Paris, some people welcomed some victim. Some subway station are closed. The next days will be terrible for France...
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2015, 01:41:10 AM
It's the morning in France. For the moment, 120 are dead, 210 people are injured and 80 of them are serious. School, university, supermarket and others places in Paris are closed for the weekend. The news are horrible, we lived in a nightmare. We speak about 8 terrorist, some of them got an explosive belt. The taxi was free at Paris, some people welcomed some victim. Some subway station are closed. The next days will be terrible for France...

France is not alone. The world is supporting you. Our hearts and prayers are with you.

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: gamerfan09 on November 15, 2015, 02:28:06 AM
And now ISIS claims responsibility *sighs*

It's truly sad when you realize that like cancer, ISIS cannot be erradicated.
Sure, you can nuke them but not without losing innocent lives.

Absolutely heartbreaking news.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Jobby on November 15, 2015, 05:03:00 AM
To hell with ISIS.

Prayers with everyone! :'(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theamazingracer21 on November 15, 2015, 06:15:09 AM
I like to think that there is a special section of hell for ISIS and other evil people.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: elthemagnifico on November 15, 2015, 07:52:16 AM

Absolutely a heartbreaking momnet  :'(


 i'm not sure if ISIS is involved, bcause one of terrorists were from France, while the rest was from Syria... If they did involve, I think it was kinda a feedback of what US alliance (including France) have done to Syria (they attacked Syria before it happened)... I'm not defending the terrorist and ISIS, but I'm not 100% sure that ISIS did it...

But I wonder, for every famous places in Paris, why near Stade de France tbh ???  Any guess??
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: gamerfan09 on November 15, 2015, 08:03:12 AM

Absolutely a heartbreaking momnet  :'(


 i'm not sure if ISIS is involved, bcause one of terrorists were from France, while the rest was from Syria... If they did involve, I think it was kinda a feedback of what US alliance (including France) have done to Syria (they attacked Syria before it happened)... I'm not defending the terrorist and ISIS, but I'm not 100% sure that ISIS did it...

But I wonder, for every famous places in Paris, why near Stade de France tbh ???  Any guess??

ISIS took responsibility. http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/14/world/paris-attacks/

And here's maybe why France was attacked: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995505/Paris-attacks-Why-has-France-been-targeted-again.html

But still.... ugh. Horrible moment that will go down in history for sure.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: freds on November 15, 2015, 02:40:10 PM

Absolutely a heartbreaking momnet  :'(


 i'm not sure if ISIS is involved, bcause one of terrorists were from France, while the rest was from Syria... If they did involve, I think it was kinda a feedback of what US alliance (including France) have done to Syria (they attacked Syria before it happened)... I'm not defending the terrorist and ISIS, but I'm not 100% sure that ISIS did it...

But I wonder, for every famous places in Paris, why near Stade de France tbh ???  Any guess??

The stade de France was a place for a soccer match between France and Germany. 80 000 people were Inside the stadium the day of the terrorist attack. 3 terrorist with an explosive belt exploded near the stadium, one of them want to enter in the stadium but he was refused.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Boingo on November 19, 2015, 06:20:44 PM

Misfortune seems to follows TAR around the world...  this time Rotterdam (http://news.yahoo.com/latest-france-urging-allies-fight-harder-against-080109421.html).   :grins:

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Maanca on December 20, 2015, 04:04:08 PM
Disaster curse strikes before TAR28 airs:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-35144579
"China landslide: Many missing after buildings collapse in Shenzhen"
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on December 20, 2015, 05:07:35 PM
Disaster curse strikes before TAR28 airs:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-35144579
"China landslide: Many missing after buildings collapse in Shenzhen"
That one actually counts. A rarity.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: theschnauzers on December 28, 2015, 06:55:52 PM
And A possible second "actual" disaster between filming and airing of TAR 28:
Show content
Assuming DFW was in fact one of four reported start locations for the season, the Christmas night tornadoes in and around the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex would count. This would make TAR 28 the first since TAR 8 to have multiple occurrences in the same season.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 31, 2015, 08:10:06 AM
And A possible second "actual" disaster between filming and airing of TAR 28:
Show content
Assuming DFW was in fact one of four reported start locations for the season, the Christmas night tornadoes in and around the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex would count. This would make TAR 28 the first since TAR 8 to have multiple occurrences in the same season.
Prayers for those affected by the tornados in Dallas too. Seeing some of the images from the aftermath of the twister is heartbreaking.

I wish we could just start 2016 already instead of waiting for midnight.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: ghmorello on March 22, 2016, 12:44:17 PM
The Race went to Chamonix, France.  Today, there was a terrorist attack on the bordering country of Belgium. 
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Leafsfan on March 22, 2016, 12:56:08 PM
The Race went to Chamonix, France.  Today, there was a terrorist attack on the bordering country of Belgium.

Can we stop with these unrelated and strech connections? Its really pathetic to connect TAR to a disaster when there is no correlation
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Marionete on March 22, 2016, 02:07:11 PM
Can we stop with these unrelated and strech connections? Its really pathetic to connect TAR to a disaster when there is no correlation
Could we please purge like 2/3 of this thread
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: gamerfan09 on March 22, 2016, 07:25:38 PM
The Race went to Chamonix, France.  Today, there was a terrorist attack on the bordering country of Belgium.

Can we stop with these unrelated and strech connections? Its really pathetic to connect TAR to a disaster when there is no correlation

Right???
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on March 22, 2016, 07:30:23 PM
Moving on. Please read the description of a "disaster curse" and let's stay close to that okay?
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Boingo on June 01, 2016, 12:42:31 PM
 :groan: While not technically a "natural disaster", this "weird" story may qualify as a "cultural disaster".  I wonder if stupid things really happen after TAR visits a location.   (:;)

link to 'weird' story about Tbilisi, Georgia (http://www.fresnobee.com/news/nation-world/national/article81110747.html)

Edited to add:  Wow! did a quick check and found that the Kiwi Cafe ('ground zero') was possibly in the path of the racers.  Given a different time and date, they could have been hit by a stray 'kaputi, 'bratwurst', 'salami', 'kielbasa', or heaven forbid, a 'haggis'. 

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BritishTARFan on July 15, 2016, 10:48:16 AM
Heart goes out to all those in Nice <3

It's such a tragedy, it happened right outside the Hotel Westminser visited in S26
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on July 18, 2016, 04:57:54 AM
Turkey's coup  (:;) :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: claude_24hrs on July 18, 2016, 07:10:43 PM
Turkey's coup  (:;) :(

As well as the Istanbul Airport attack a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BritishTARFan on July 22, 2016, 02:00:28 PM
Wow right after Tar China's Munich episode a shooting happened in Munich. Sorry for the lives lost and I hope the shooter/s are caught.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on July 22, 2016, 06:44:10 PM
Wow right after Tar China's Munich episode a shooting happened in Munich. Sorry for the lives lost and I hope the shooter/s are caught.

Well said
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: claude_24hrs on August 24, 2016, 03:35:58 AM
A strong 6.2 magnitude earthquake hits Italy (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/23/europe/italy-earthquake/)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on August 24, 2016, 04:07:39 AM
A strong 6.2 magnitude earthquake hits Italy (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/23/europe/italy-earthquake/)

I heard the whole town is gone. At least 21 people have died.  :( (:;) :gaah: :groan:

 :<3 :hearts: :luvya: To anyone from Italy on RFF. We are thinking of you
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on September 02, 2016, 05:48:24 PM


Do you think that a disaster? edit
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 07, 2016, 12:38:45 AM
We pray for everyone in Florida, The Bahamas, Cuba and Haiti at the moment. Let's pray all RFF's are ok.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Maanca on October 12, 2016, 11:33:27 AM
One for TAR Canada, parts of Cape Breton and especially Sydney are badly flooded right now after Matthew's leftovers dumped a record 225 mm in 24 hours.

Here at the other end of the province, we got a pleasant amount of rain, enough to help with the drought we had this summer.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Theo on October 16, 2016, 11:52:06 AM
http://theweek.com/speedreads/655530/indonesian-bridge-collapse-kills-9-including-3-children

This is the bridge from TAR 28 :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 16, 2016, 04:18:34 PM
http://theweek.com/speedreads/655530/indonesian-bridge-collapse-kills-9-including-3-children

This is the bridge from TAR 28 :(

AND THEY DIDN'T DRWON! They were killed by falling bits of the bridge! How horrible!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: angkorwhat on October 17, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
Oh wow, that's so terrible :(
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Dozin on October 20, 2016, 02:22:59 AM
Then try https://www.scidacreview.org/probolan-50-review-results the probolan 50 stuff.

This is the bridge from TAR 28 :(

AND THEY DIDN'T DRWON! They were killed by falling bits of the bridge! How horrible!

So many disasters. Makes me sad to see some of the awful pics. I just wish I could help.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 20, 2016, 02:34:16 AM
So many disasters. Makes me sad to see some of the awful pics. I just wish I could help.

WELCOME TO RFF, DOZIN!  :hearts: :luvya: :conf: :wohoo: :cheer: :yess: :hoot: :bigwelcome :welcome2:
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 23, 2016, 01:26:56 AM
not relevant.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 24, 2016, 11:57:32 PM
BREAKING:

At least 1 person dead at Dreamworld, Gold Coast, Australia. 2 people are injured and more people are trapped.

Read more here: http://www.9news.com.au/National/2016/10/25/15/48/Reports-of-at-least-one-dead-in-serious-Dreamworld-ride-accident

I have been to Dreamworld many times and ridden on many rides and is most famous being featured in TAR Asia 4 Leg 8.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 25, 2016, 12:23:18 AM
BREAKING:

At least 1 person dead at Dreamworld, Gold Coast, Australia. 2 people are injured and more people are trapped.


UPDATE:
4 people are now dead after being crushed on the BuzzSaw rollarcoaster ride. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzSaw_(roller_coaster))
Apparently, the ride flipped over and crushed them. Details are still coming in at this stage.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 25, 2016, 02:30:56 AM
FURTHER UPDATE:
Two men and two woman aged between 32 and their early 40's have died. IT IS THE THUNDER RIVER RAPIDS NOT THE BUZZSAW! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder_River_Rapids_Ride)

Two of the riders were ejected from the ride and two other riders were caught in the ride.

It is believed that the mother, father, uncle and another relative from the same family have died.

I have been on the ride many times when my family and I visited the theme park twice. I am just shocked and saddened by these events and I will provide further updates, as they come in.

If u want to find out more information, please read the below article:
http://www.9news.com.au/National/2016/10/25/15/48/Reports-of-at-least-one-dead-in-serious-Dreamworld-ride-accident
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 25, 2016, 02:32:50 AM
There is also this article:
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/10/25/17/51/dreamworld-witnesses-heard-screams-and-saw-people-running

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 25, 2016, 03:36:01 PM
The family has been identified:

Kate Goodchild (32,) her Luke Dorsett (age unknown), his partner Roozi Araghi (age unknown) and a 42-year old women.

http://www.9news.com.au/National/2016/10/25/15/48/Reports-of-at-least-one-dead-in-serious-Dreamworld-ride-accident
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on October 27, 2016, 04:27:43 AM
Major earthquake in central Italy.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/europe/italy-earthquake/index.html



Campi, Italy (CNN) — Two powerful earthquakes Wednesday struck central Italy about 50 miles north of the site of a deadly August quake that killed nearly 300 people, the US Geological Survey said.

The second quake -- with a magnitude of 6.1 -- was 3.2 kilometers (2 miles) north of Visso and 58 km (36 miles) from Perugia, the USGS reported.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on October 27, 2016, 04:32:07 AM
How did we miss this? Sept earthquake in Tanzania

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37330418
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on October 30, 2016, 05:43:17 PM
Another 6.6 earthquake in central Italy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/31/world/europe/italy-earthquake-norcia.html?_r=0
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 30, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
Another 6.6 earthquake in central Italy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/31/world/europe/italy-earthquake-norcia.html?_r=0

Following on from this, it has destroyed a six-century church and was felt in Rome.
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Neobie on November 03, 2016, 05:55:08 AM
A TAR blessing for once? [/spoilers] :)
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2016, 12:09:16 PM
A TAR blessing for once? [/spoilers] :)

A blessing? Yes that more people were not hurt and Rome antiquities not destroyed. But def not a blessing for all the others affected. Poor Italy!!
Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: Boingo on November 03, 2016, 03:11:02 PM
A TAR blessing for once? [/spoilers] :)

I think TAR finally broke the "disaster curse" and gave us a blessing..... as already reported in the TAR Media thread this past July:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chicagoinc/ct-the-amazing-race-filming-in-chicago-20160703-story.html

After visiting Chicago in TAR29, TAR has single handedly broken the 108 year drought and caused the Chicago Cubs to win the World Series this year.   :wohoo:

But don't take my word for it, here's a pic:

Title: Re: TAR Disaster Curse
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2016, 03:44:59 PM
Oh, NOW I get it!! YES!!