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Title: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on February 21, 2010, 12:45:06 AM
Since CBS have already came up with the 4th episode title, so here it is

EP04: San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina to Hamburg, Germany
EVIDENCE: Argentine article, TV Guide

Air Date: MAR 7

Film Date: DEC 4-5/6

Route:
ROUTE INFO: Fly to Frankfurt, Germany, connect to Hamburg via ICE train
EVIDENCE: CBS promo

ROUTE INFO: Travel by taxi (?) to Fischmarkt
EVIDENCE: CBS promo

INTERSECTION: Tandem upside down bungee jump (Bungee provided by Hackett) at Fischmarkt on Alsterarkaden (near Town Hall)
Performed by: Carol/Brandy-Dan/Jordan; Mike/Louis-Jet/Cord
EVIDENCE: CBS preview

ROUTE INFO/DETOUR?: Beer drinking task (out of a glass boot – Stiefeltrinken) at Haifisch Bar
EVIDENCE: CBS preview, press release

OTHER TASKS: Beatles-centric puzzle, eating task (?)
EVIDENCE: Press releases

Safe From Elimination at End of Episode:
Mike & Louis: Eliminated in 4th place in Shanghai
Steve & Allie: Spotted in Penang, possibly spotted in Singapore
Carol & Brandy: Spotted in Singapore
Dan & Jordan (Spotted in SFO)
Brent & Caite (Spotted in SFO)
Jet & Cord (Spotted in SFO)

Possibly Eliminated:
Jeff & Jordan
Joe & Heidi (spotted with other ES teams at SFO)
TBC?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: kwando1313 on February 21, 2010, 09:14:26 AM
On my TV provider, it says that they are going to do some "early Beatles tasks".

EDIT: With some mild research it appears they are going to Hamburg. But for tasks... I have no idea.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: AmazingDT on February 21, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
Bible Belt is an informal term for an area of the United States in which socially conservative evangelical Protestantism is a dominant part of the culture and Christian church attendance across the denominations is extremely high.

Much of the Bible Belt consists of the Southern United States. During the colonial period (1607-1776), the South was a stronghold of the Anglican church. Its transition into a stronghold of non-Anglican Protestantism occurred gradually over the next century, as a series of religious revival movements, many associated with the Baptist denomination, gained great popularity in the region.
(from Wikipedia)

It seems that the only team in the Bible Belt are Brent and Caite

Maybe they'll say the title
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on February 21, 2010, 02:27:29 PM
Oklahoma could be said to be on the edge of the "Bible Belt." Some major Evangelical groups and universities are headquartered in that state, such as the Oral Roberts Ministries and Oral Roberts University (in Tulsa); so there's a chance it might be Jet or Cord who utters that episode title.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DrRox on February 21, 2010, 02:28:04 PM
It could also have been said by Jet/Cord (OK), Jody/Shannon (Tex), or Jordan (NC) of Jordeff. Down here in Texas, people say the "buckle" of the Bible Belt is in Abilene, Tx. Home to three major universities of 3 different church denominations.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: AmazingDT on February 21, 2010, 02:35:23 PM
so possible candidates are Caite and Brent, Jet and Cord
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on February 21, 2010, 03:39:09 PM
 :lol:  I'm also thinking, along with the rodeo dudes, the "geographically challenged" team, and BB winner Jordan, the "dark horse" pick would be the Team Momprenours, specifically Shawne, who's bio says she's from Maryland, and has a "special relationship with God".  I recall one of the moms asking for devine intervention during the cable crossing roadblock.   :snicker:  ...technically MD would be on the outskirts of the Bible Belt.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Dånooky on February 21, 2010, 06:24:41 PM
:lol:  I'm also thinking, along with the rodeo dudes, the "geographically challenged" team, and BB winner Jordan, the "dark horse" pick would be the Team Momprenours, specifically Shawne, who's bio says she's from Maryland, and has a "special relationship with God".  I recall one of the moms asking for devine intervention during the cable crossing roadblock.   :snicker:  ...technically MD would be on the outskirts of the Bible Belt.
you're right, the moms seem to reference Jesus and God significantly during the first leg, so it could be them too
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: redskevin88 on February 21, 2010, 06:28:32 PM
I know Dr. Rox doesn't like Wikipedia... but here it is

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The region thus defined included most of the Southern United States, including most of Texas  and Oklahoma  in the southwest, most of Missouri, parts of southern Illinois and Indiana, and the states south of the Ohio River, and extending in the northeast to include central West Virginia, Virginia south of Northern Virginia, and parts of Maryland. A 1978 study by Charles Heatwole identified the Bible Belt as the region dominated by 24 fundamentalist Protestant denominations, corresponding to essentially the same area mapped by Zielinski.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DrRox on February 21, 2010, 07:24:34 PM
Its not that I dont like Wiki........I just know I live in the Bible Belt........Texas. The largest Baptist univeristy in the world is in Texas.....Baylor University.....about 20,000-30,000 students last I recall. Baylor is in Waco. Waco is about 75 miles from where Jody/Shannon are from.

You couldnt buy a mixed beverage in this state till the mid-1970s.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2010, 08:20:08 PM
Jody and Shannon will sadly not be here to say the title....
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on February 21, 2010, 08:22:24 PM
I think Shawne and Monique will say it. They seem really religious. The Cowboys live in the Bible Belt though. So  :duno:?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: graytex on February 21, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
The Beatles lived in Hamburg for some time.  From Wikipedia:

The Beatles' residency in Hamburg, the German city where John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Stuart Sutcliffe and Pete Best regularly performed at a series of four different clubs during the period August 1960 to December 1962, was a chapter in the group's history which honed their performance skills, widened their reputation, and led to their first recording, which brought them to the attention of Brian Epstein.

The Beatles booking agent, Allan Williams, decided to send the group to Hamburg when another group he managed, Derry and The Seniors, proved successful there. Having no permanent drummer at the time, they recruited Best a few days before their departure. They initially lived in squalid conditions, sleeping in an unheated storeroom behind the screen of a cinema, in an area renowned for gangsters and prostitutes. After breaking their contract by playing at another club, Harrison was deported for being under-age, and McCartney and Best were arrested and deported for attempted arson (McCartney and Best had set fire to a condom in the club).

In Hamburg The Beatles first met Astrid Kirchherr, who was instrumental in the adoption of the famous Beatle haircut. During their time in Hamburg bass player Sutcliffe decided to leave the group to continue his studies. In April 1962, less than a year after leaving the group, Sutcliffe died of a brain haemorrhage.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gingerman28 on February 22, 2010, 02:57:20 PM
Since CBS have already came up with the 4th episode title, so here it is

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21253.msg511998.html#msg511998

So our early (January 21) speculation that "early Beatles tasks" referred to Hamburg and not to Liverpool has been confirmed by CBS.  The early CBS blurb about TAR just mention that teams would follow some early Beatles lives was interpreted by some writers to mean England and added "in Liverpool" to the CBS quote.  Lots of Beattle stuff in Hamburg: the clubs they performed in, the new Beattles museum, and the newly designated "Beattles Platz" which would be good for a clue of for the pit stop location.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on February 23, 2010, 01:45:19 AM
it doesn't necessarily have to be someone from the "Bible Belt" who says it.

Hamburg, although not directly related to, has some decent ties to Luther and the Lutheran Church.

Not to mention some huge churches that dominate the skyline.

So the title could easily be said while heading to the Beatles Platz (in the "red light district") from one of these said churches.

The stark contrast of a pious church and a less than modest street scene could easily get someone to say this quote

Although those Bible Belters are more likely to utter it, I still think it's open season for anyone.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on February 23, 2010, 09:10:43 AM
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it doesn't necessarily have to be someone from the "Bible Belt" who says it.
Agreed. Just to be different, I'll put my chips down on Carol/Brandy.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: puddin on February 24, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
ok , def need a new scanner :p
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2010, 11:17:46 PM
Thanks puddin!! :hearts:

Interesting time to feature the Moms...hmmm?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on February 24, 2010, 11:37:51 PM
Thank you puddin!  :jumpy:


Quote
Interesting time to feature the Moms...hmmm?


 :umn: because they might be the team that doesn't make it to Germany?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on February 25, 2010, 01:58:56 AM
or gets eliminated there...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on February 25, 2010, 12:36:54 PM
Thanks puddin!! :hearts:

Interesting time to feature the Moms...hmmm?

Why would you say that? The average viewers aren't supposed to know who makes it to that point! :lol:

At least it's not Jeff & Jordan, Brent & Caite, or Jet & Cord this time. :yess:

But I wonder why they use a picture from Leg 1. Could it be because Monique & Shawne don't make it to Leg 4 or could it just be a coincidence? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on February 25, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
If TV Guide is already out in print, then episode one was probably the only episode that had aired when that issue went to the presses, so they used that for the photo.

(Those magazines have to have a lead time to lock in their editorial content, get the content to the printing plants, and then get into the distribution network -- and with all the winter weather problems this year, that last part can be difficult.)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 25, 2010, 01:22:42 PM
^^ Very good point, the schnauzers!

Thanks puddin!! :hearts:

Interesting time to feature the Moms...hmmm?

Why would you say that? The average viewers aren't supposed to know who makes it to that point! :lol:




We aren't average viewers, this is a spoiler thread. :res:

And I tend to think things like choosing what team to feature, is done not by chance. 
So featuring the Moms this week could be that they looked pretty :lol:  but much more likely to mean SOMETHING.

As in this is a pivotal week for them, ....or as simple as this is the last chance they COULD be featured.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on February 25, 2010, 02:00:05 PM
^^ Very good point, the schnauzers!

Thanks puddin!! :hearts:

Interesting time to feature the Moms...hmmm?

Why would you say that? The average viewers aren't supposed to know who makes it to that point! :lol:




We aren't average viewers, this is a spoiler thread. :res:

And I tend to think things like choosing what team to feature, is done not by chance. 
So featuring the Moms this week could be that they looked pretty :lol:  but much more likely to mean SOMETHING.

As in this is a pivotal week for them, ....or as simple as this is the last chance they COULD be featured.

I agree Peach. I think that it means something too. I believe that they will make it to Germany and that the picture was used because they were eliminated there or are the last team to arrive with a non-elimination leg. Otherwise, I think Jeff and Jordan's picture would have been used again.

Monique and Shawne have been doing really good this season and like Allie and Steve have not recieved as much airtime. Could the picture mean that a team that was strong in leg 1 and 2 (Monique and Shawne) makes a mistake in Germany so make sure to pay attention? They seemed to be featured a lot in the preview for episode 3 as well.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on February 25, 2010, 04:01:13 PM
^^ Very good point, the schnauzers!

Thanks puddin!! :hearts:

Interesting time to feature the Moms...hmmm?

Why would you say that? The average viewers aren't supposed to know who makes it to that point! :lol:




We aren't average viewers, this is a spoiler thread. :res:

And I tend to think things like choosing what team to feature, is done not by chance.  
So featuring the Moms this week could be that they looked pretty :lol:  but much more likely to mean SOMETHING.

As in this is a pivotal week for them, ....or as simple as this is the last chance they COULD be featured.

I know we aren't average viewers, but the magazine isn't geared toward us specifically. It is geared toward anyone who is interested in TAR. The magazine may just be putting up some sort of generic picture of any team reading a clue (in this case it happens to be Monique & Shawne) to represent The Amazing Race, without really caring which team they use. For such a small announcement I'm not sure they'd care which team was shown.

After what theshnauzers said, I'm more inclined to think Monique & Shawne do make it to Germany. But other than that I don't think there is a significance.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on February 25, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
 There is no way they would put a picture of Monique and Shawne for a preview to an episode they don't appear in. So I think they used that picture because the viewer will see that team in Germany.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 25, 2010, 04:24:50 PM
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For such a small announcement I'm not sure they'd care which team was shown.

I think they do care, and I think it is not by chance.  But guess we'll see?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on February 25, 2010, 04:29:55 PM
There is no way they would put a picture of Monique and Shawne for a preview to an episode they don't appear in. So I think they used that picture because the viewer will see that team in Germany.

The real question is this then: Does the magazine know which teams make it to Germany? If so, why?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 25, 2010, 04:54:45 PM
It isn't the magazine that makes this up Hooky, they publish what CBS gives them. But let's move on now....
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on February 25, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
It isn't the magazine that makes this up Hooky, they publish what CBS gives them. But let's move on now....

Okay. We'll just wait and see then...clearly this isn't going anywhere. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on February 26, 2010, 01:35:57 AM
You know, the significance or non-significance of that TV Guide photo does depend a lot on who at TVG magazine originated the blurb.  If it's their person who might have been given access to the teams before the teams started filming, and they get the media review copies of the episode, then it may be significant. On the other hand, it may be a media-induced red herring.  Depends on who it was, and whether they're given anything as guidance.

And since that item is unsigned, I guess we'll never know for sure.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on February 27, 2010, 11:56:25 AM
The picture on the TV Guide is from Episode 1. The clothing and the background is the same.

(http://i45.[banned image hosting site].com/rbdu9s.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: YY on February 28, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
Have to throw this out there, then I'll slink away, I swear and leave y'all alone. Since the race does go to Germany, well then, Colette would be right in that aspect. I remember when the race was being run and this was discussed it was easily dismissed and if what she said was correct then do I get to say told you so? ;)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on February 28, 2010, 04:18:38 PM
Have to throw this out there, then I'll slink away, I swear and leave y'all alone. Since the race does go to Germany, well then, Colette would be right in that aspect. I remember when the race was being run and this was discussed it was easily dismissed and if what she said was correct then do I get to say told you so? ;)


She also said that another "source" told her that Jeff and Jordan would be eliminated 2nd or 3rd. So if they are eliminated tonight she will be right and if they make it to Germany and get eliminated she would be right too. If I remember right an article from Argentina said the teams were headed to Germany before she did?  Also, Jeff and Jordan were spotted at the ES in Mexico before she said they were eliminated 2nd or 3rd. So is she just guessing this or does she have "sources" in the know? I am asking because I want to know when they go out.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: mswood on February 28, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
Historically every time we have had an intersection (which I hate) we have also had a Fast Forward.  Do you think we get one this week?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on February 28, 2010, 08:04:31 PM
It looked like a Hackett bungy in the promo; they have a German operation (http://www.ajhackett.com/germany/), but it's not based in a particular place/city.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on February 28, 2010, 08:16:23 PM
It looked like a Hackett bungy in the promo; they have a German operation (http://www.ajhackett.com/germany/), but it's not based in a particular place/city.

 :lol: There are quite a few bungy bungee jumps in Hamburg link here (http://www.jochen-schweizer.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-JSShop-Site/default/Search-CheckProducthits?q=hamburg) ... off a crane, off the TV tower,  B:)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: puddin on February 28, 2010, 08:19:16 PM
Video is going to have to wait. some screencaps on the way
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2010, 08:21:26 PM
:ty  I am so excited to finally have something to work with!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: puddin on February 28, 2010, 08:30:13 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0025.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0026.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0027.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0028.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0029.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0030.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: puddin on February 28, 2010, 08:31:19 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0032.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0033.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0034.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0035.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0036.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0037.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2010, 08:32:43 PM
Somebody is SO gonna need a pee break. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: puddin on February 28, 2010, 08:32:59 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0039.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0040.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0041.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0042.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0044.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0045.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0046.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0047.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0048.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on February 28, 2010, 08:36:29 PM
Intersection at the Town Hall...

(http://armoks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/24/Germany-Christmas-Preparations_c6f2_preview.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Dånooky on February 28, 2010, 08:48:14 PM
Oh, double roadblock
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: heyhay28 on February 28, 2010, 08:55:39 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0041.jpg)

Is this Allie and Mike?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on February 28, 2010, 09:09:10 PM
Oh, double roadblock

What is a double-roadblock? (http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/Amazing%20Race%20Games%20Stuff/7_2_112.gif)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on February 28, 2010, 09:15:27 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0041.jpg)

Is this Allie and Mike?

Looks like it.

Oh, double roadblock

What is a double-roadblock? (http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/Amazing%20Race%20Games%20Stuff/7_2_112.gif)

I think that a double RB is one that 2 people performed. I know they did this in TARFE.

So right now we know two intersected teams.

1. Carol and Brandy with Dan and Jordan
2. Steve and Allie with Louie & Michael.

I sense Bunching.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Dånooky on February 28, 2010, 09:19:26 PM
I sense Bunching.

Probably airport bunching
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: slpdx on February 28, 2010, 09:22:05 PM
Asking the experts (but yes, I will also check the timeline too :()

Since there is an intersection, is there a possibility that this a double-length leg as well or is it too early in the Race for that?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on February 28, 2010, 09:24:13 PM
 :lol:  They are standing near the Alsterarkaden - a pleasant arcade in Hamburg with shops and cafes.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on February 28, 2010, 09:58:54 PM
Do Jet/Cord get on an earlier flight? It looks real bright outside the windows!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on February 28, 2010, 11:17:11 PM
Asking the experts (but yes, I will also check the timeline too :()

Since there is an intersection, is there a possibility that this a double-length leg as well or is it too early in the Race for that?


No, just a normal leg. The fifth leg has teams fly to France.

I think we're going to see some major flight scrambling next week. Should be promising.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on February 28, 2010, 11:53:32 PM
Do you guys think that Jet/Cord will be massively screwed over by the Intersection? :groan:

Doing some math in the timeline thread (I'm really not sure about this, would love it if someone could do some double-checking!) I have them possibly arriving in Hamburg 9 hours earlier than the rest of the teams.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 12:16:54 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: kwando1313 on March 01, 2010, 09:23:05 AM
Wow, I never thought that the Intersection would rear its ugly head again... If Neobie's math is correct, I think they are going to have an extended pit-stop to avoid that...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 02:11:30 PM
 :lol:  just to get things rolling... throwing this possible location for the bungee task...

only place in the Hamburg Harbour with this "running bond" pattern....
it's the Fischmarkt (parking?) near the river.

Note it's about 8 or 9 squares wide between the railings... only place on the Fischmarkt where this occurs.    :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: puddin on March 01, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
FROM THE COUNTRYSIDE TO THE CONCRETE JUNGLE, TEAMS TRAVEL TO GERMANY WHERE THEY COME FACE-TO-FACE WITH THE HAMBURG SKYLINE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 7 ON CBS

"We Are No Longer In The Bible Belt" (Germany) — Racers must navigate an unfamiliar and confusing train system without their teammates, take a dive over Hamburg and reunite for a nausea-inducing lesson in German gastronomy, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

 
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 01, 2010, 02:38:29 PM
 
New! The Amazing Race 16 - We Are No Longer In the Bible Belt

The teams arrive in Germany and must join forces with another team on the next episode of The Amazing Race.   
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 01, 2010, 03:18:18 PM
Looks like we have a lot to work with! Thanks Puddin and Sailing! :hearts: Public transportation!

1. I know it's not always indicative, but... British Airways?
2. Hamburg Central has the Philips sign... The "chandeliers" and huge balls are Christmas decorations (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/3052618436_ae6986f162.jpg).
3. Jet/Cord are walking along the Jungfernstieg.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 03:27:18 PM
Looks like we're back to the public transportation theme for this season.  FWIW, here are some useful links:

Hamburg S-Bahn wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_S-Bahn)

Hamburg Airport S-Bahn shuttle to downtown (http://www.s-bahn-hamburg.de/s_hamburg/view/angebote/hamburg-airport.shtml)

Hamburg S-Bahn map (http://www.s-bahn-hamburg.de/s_hamburg/view/mdb/s_hamburg/wir/pdf/MDB53919-netzplan_neu.pdf)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 01, 2010, 03:30:10 PM
Searching for the Beatles via Metro? Excellent!   :tup:

I also think that  the :jam: task is just a miscellaneous one.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 03:40:37 PM
 :tup: cool.... if they are going to Reeperbahn (Beatles Platz) via the S3 line, then it's a short trip from the Central Station.  If they take it in the wrong direction, then they end up on the wrong side of the river.   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: kristin626 on March 01, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
So do you guys think it's safe to assume that the pairings are as follows:

Detective/Cowboys
Team Big Brother/Brent and Caite
Brandy and Carol/Brothers
Allie and Steve/Joe and Heidi!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 01, 2010, 03:53:57 PM
Well, it looks like in the preview video, that Cait and Jordan are going the wrong way...Is there a boat to get back acrosss the river or do they have to take the train back? :'(
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 01, 2010, 04:49:40 PM
Well, it looks like in the preview video, that Cait and Jordan are going the wrong way...Is there a boat to get back acrosss the river or do they have to take the train back? :'(


It is a subway they have to use I believe. I think that when Jordan says "We are done" it is just a tease and this will be a NEL leg.


It might be a train. I am going to stick with posting videos and articles and leave the detective work to the experts.  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 04:51:01 PM
 :lol:  CBS hay be jumping the gun here, as this is the ICE Inter-City Express (high speed) Train.  ...they will be taking the S-Bahn trains within Hamburg

I suspect that the teams may take the ICE train next week when they travel to France (in the spirit of public transportation).  

ETA: mystery solved, the train has arrived at the Frankfurt Airport ICE station, where teams will continue on to France, next week.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 01, 2010, 04:56:32 PM
Well, it looks like in the preview video, that Cait and Jordan are going the wrong way...Is there a boat to get back acrosss the river or do they have to take the train back? :'(


It is a subway they have to use I believe. I think that when Jordan says "We are done" it is just a tease and this will be a NEL leg.


It might be a train. I am going to stick with posting videos and articles and leave the detective work to the experts.  :lol3:

Well, i hope so, cuz we know C/B stay in the race unless there is a run to the mat between JJ & C/B, which i hope not and i thought that Leg 5 was a possible NEL??? Do we know for sure???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 01, 2010, 05:07:02 PM
:lol:  CBS hay be jumping the gun here, as this is the ICE Inter-City Express (high speed) Train.  ...they will be taking the S-Bahn trains within Hamburg

I suspect that the teams may take the ICE train next week when they travel to France (in the spirit of public transportation). 

ETA: mystery solved, the train has arrived at the Frankfurt Airport ICE station, where teams will continue on to France, next week.

Nice, Boingo! Could the clue have teams flying into Frankfurt this week, then taking the train to Hamburg?

The whole Jet/Cord arriving way early theory would have to be reworked completely... Going to edit the post in the timeline thread...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: steve2011 on March 01, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
So do you guys think it's safe to assume that the pairings are as follows:

Detective/Cowboys
Team Big Brother/Brent and Caite
Brandy and Carol/Brothers
Allie and Steve/Joe and Heidi!

from promo screencaps it looks like the detective are with allie/steve so id say cowboys with /joe and heidi
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 05:17:57 PM

Nice, Boingo! Could the clue have teams flying into Frankfurt this week, then taking the train to Hamburg?


ooops, should have realized that Frankfurt is the gateway into Germany, not Hamburg.   :groan:  yep, ICE train from Frankfurt to Hamburg.   :tup:  BUT... they might take a train to France next week also...  ;)

Hamburg-Altona or Altona is a railway station situated west of the city's main station and is the usual terminus for southbound long-distance trains. (ICE) services to southern Germany begin and terminate there.

 :lol3:  looks like they then may take a taxi (shown in previews) to get to the INTERSECTION.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 01, 2010, 05:21:29 PM
So do you guys think it's safe to assume that the pairings are as follows:

Detective/Cowboys
Team Big Brother/Brent and Caite
Brandy and Carol/Brothers
Allie and Steve/Joe and Heidi!

from promo screencaps it looks like the detective are with allie/steve so id say cowboys with /joe and heidi

No, to me the cowboys hooked up with the Detectives.... :groan:
When they jump off the voice is the cowboys and he is with a Det....unless Joe grew 4" on the jump..freeze the video at 20:0:30.....definitely the taller Det. with a cowboy with his HAT on!!LOL He must have that hat SUPER-GLUED on!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 01, 2010, 05:50:21 PM

Nice, Boingo! Could the clue have teams flying into Frankfurt this week, then taking the train to Hamburg?


ooops, should have realized that Frankfurt is the gateway into Germany, not Hamburg.   :groan:  yep, ICE train from Frankfurt to Hamburg.   :tup:  BUT... they might take a train to France next week also...  ;)

Where is the pub exactly? It could very well be in Frankfurt.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 05:53:48 PM

Where is the pub exactly? It could very well be in Frankfurt.

If they take the ICE train at the airport, then they never get into Frankfurt.  Besides, the pub/bar has a distinctive nautical theme, so it's got to be in the port city of Hamburg.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 01, 2010, 06:11:43 PM
Why are Jet/Cord walking away from the Intersection?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 06:18:42 PM
 :lol:  maybe they got there first, saw that they have to wait for another team... decide to look for hat store while waiting for detectives.   :lol3:  actually, they may be so far ahead that they go and have a few at the bar while waiting.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DeafRacer on March 01, 2010, 07:53:08 PM
Just want to give y'all a head up about the beer part with Jet & Cord. We aren't allowed to have a drink just for fun during the race unless it is part as the task. Drinking is against the rule on the Race.

So, drinking beer must be a task.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 01, 2010, 07:55:16 PM
Screencaps:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4train.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4Germany.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4Taxi.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16Hamburg.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4CordandJet.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4DetectivesandCowboy.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4MikeandLouie.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4DanandBrandy.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JetandCord.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JetandCordteamup.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4LouieandMike.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4LouieandMiketeamup.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAr16DetectivesandCowboys2.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAr16ep4Mikeand.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4train2.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16JordanandCaite2.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JordanandCaitetrainclock.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JordanandCaiteontrain3.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JordanandCaiteontrain.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JordanandCaiteontrain2.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4MikeandJet.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4MikeandJetbungee.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4MikeandJetbungee2.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4Brandybungee.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 01, 2010, 07:56:52 PM
Just want to give y'all a head up about the beer part with Jet & Cord. We aren't allowed to have a drink just for fun during the race unless it is part as the task. Drinking is against the rule on the Race.

So, drinking beer must be a task.

Thanks Luke!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 01, 2010, 08:25:13 PM
(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/tar16e10.jpg)


Is this a screencap of Brandy's face? It looks like her?

Thanks Peach for the screencaps and Luke !  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 01, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
yep, that's Brandy... during the bungee.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 08:32:46 PM

 :lol:  while we're waiting, a pretty photo album of Hamburg (http://www.mccrow.org.uk/Germany/Hamburg/HamburgViews.htm)   :colors
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 09:13:05 PM
FROM THE COUNTRYSIDE TO THE CONCRETE JUNGLE, TEAMS TRAVEL TO GERMANY WHERE THEY COME FACE-TO-FACE WITH THE HAMBURG SKYLINE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 7 ON CBS

"We Are No Longer In The Bible Belt" (Germany) — Racers must navigate an unfamiliar and confusing train system without their teammates, take a dive over Hamburg and reunite for a nausea-inducing lesson in German gastronomy, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.


 :lol:  looks like we are in for a food challenge...  "gastronomy" would imply food, not just beer... hmmmm

only local Hamburg food that might qualify as nausea-inducing might be Labskaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labskaus)   :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 01, 2010, 09:17:56 PM
Do we have two roadblocks this leg?

One is navigating the metro, and the other one is the bungee?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 01, 2010, 09:30:28 PM
Is this place possible for the bar?? It is known for it's labskaus too! :lol:
 but I don't see the life rings....
http://www.oldcommercialroom.de/foto_360_01.htm
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on March 01, 2010, 09:37:49 PM
So during this leg teams split up and complete two seperate course? This could be a TAR first :hearts:.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 01, 2010, 09:40:25 PM
Probably not a surprise, but so far I've only found one match for an underground, slightly-curved platform with matching roof and lighting - the station right beneath the Intersection clue box, Jungfernstieg.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JordanandCaitetrainclock.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2082/2375745728_3fb9c9b2ca.jpg)

ETA: The train going east curves left as it enters Jungfernstieg (YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zgaf_FFJEQ)). The girls board a train that curves right, so the wrong train goes west while they intended to go east?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: AmazingDT on March 01, 2010, 09:48:00 PM
wow, this is going to be epic.  An intersection.  Maybe for the team roadblock they have to ride the metro to the bungee jump
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 01, 2010, 09:59:13 PM
I think there is a clock in that pic of Jordan and caite just above...any guesses??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Dånooky on March 01, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
Joined Roadblock and team splitting, maybe the Intersection will finally vindicate itself :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 01, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
Joined Roadblock and team splitting, maybe the Intersection will finally vindicate itself :lol:

THAT's how the intersection should work.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 01, 2010, 10:11:11 PM
I don't see the clock, Peach?

Looks like they figure out their mistake at the next station, Stadthausbrücke. They're not going to the Reeperbahn then. No red light district at night for these racers!

And here's the checker pattern at the bottom of the wall, the indicator for where short trains stop.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3783911410_5b010810fa.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Dånooky on March 01, 2010, 10:11:36 PM
Joined Roadblock and team splitting, maybe the Intersection will finally vindicate itself :lol:

THAT's how the intersection should work.  :tup:
Maybe the whole title should be "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Like the Intersection"
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 01, 2010, 10:19:37 PM
Is this place possible for the bar?? It is known for it's labskaus too! :lol:
 but I don't see the life rings....
http://www.oldcommercialroom.de/foto_360_01.htm

I'm not seein' it either...   :groan:

Here's another historic restaurant that serves labskaus with eels.... yummm... even better!  :lol:
too bad, no pictures
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 02, 2010, 01:09:22 AM
maybe it's a two part roadblock?

i think there's been a couple like that before.  just not with an intersection...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 02, 2010, 11:53:59 AM
:lol:

My best guess so far - Astra beer glass boot.

Trygg-Hansa is an insurance company.

Edit: on further review, it does not have to be Astra beer.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 02, 2010, 01:09:12 PM
 :lol: well, we may not know the exact bar/pub, but we now know which one it's NOT....  :groan:

looks like it's not Gretel & Alfons (http://www.gretelundalfons.de/index.php?sprache=englisch)   darn...so close...   (:;)  and a Beatles connection too...

additional Reeperbahn info (http://news.independentminds.livejournal.com/3167792.html)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 02, 2010, 02:06:33 PM
 :groan:  oh sure, this pub named "Hamburg" in Valparaiso (Chile) has life rings...  (:;)  go figure  :lol:

NY Times wrote it was founded by a German who sailed from Hamburg 20 years ago and stayed.  you just can't make this stuff up.  bwahahahaha...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: JGR on March 02, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
:groan:  oh sure, this pub named "Hamburg" in Valparaiso (Chile) has life rings...  (:;)  go figure  :lol:

Any chance they have to go back to Chile to catch a flight to Germany?  Maybe that's where the intersection starts???  I dunno.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 02, 2010, 05:56:41 PM
 :lol:  :snicker: It really is a Hamburg Taxi  (a Volvo V70 wagon)   :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 02, 2010, 07:05:59 PM
Hee...I knew they gave us that TAXI cap for a reason!! Boingo is on a roll!!  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 02, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
It looks like Stiefeltrinken. Explanation at the last paragraph of this page (http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/history.html), German wiki article here (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiefel_%28Trinkgef%C3%A4%C3%9F%29).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 02, 2010, 08:46:52 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!  NOW I get it!! :funny:  Thanks Slowhatch!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 03, 2010, 01:02:34 AM
aren't those boots they're drinking out of from Beerfest?...  :umn:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 03, 2010, 04:50:52 AM
aren't those boots they're drinking out of from Beerfest?...  :umn:

Where do you think Beerfest got the idea from?  :jam:

Slowhatch's links explain the beer drinking from a boot fairly well if you go read them.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2010, 06:30:59 AM
:groan:  oh sure, this pub named "Hamburg" in Valparaiso (Chile) has life rings...  (:;)  go figure  :lol:

Any chance they have to go back to Chile to catch a flight to Germany?  Maybe that's where the intersection starts???  I dunno.

If you look at post 77 in this thread, you will see that the Detectives read their Intersection clue and pair with the Cowboys in Hamburg.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 03, 2010, 11:50:41 AM
It looks like Stiefeltrinken. Explanation at the last paragraph of this page (http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/history.html), German wiki article here (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiefel_%28Trinkgef%C3%A4%C3%9F%29).

Where is this bar!?!?!?!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 03, 2010, 12:25:52 PM
It looks like Stiefeltrinken. Explanation at the last paragraph of this page (http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/history.html), German wiki article here (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiefel_%28Trinkgef%C3%A4%C3%9F%29).

So the beer drinking has to be a FastForward, or one of the options on a Detour - with Caite being prohibited from doing it, it can't be a general route task.
I don't think TPTB would allow Caite to drink beer, even though the drinking age in Germany for beer is 16, she was still underage in the US.

Still can't find that darn pub. (:;)

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 03, 2010, 12:59:32 PM
Excellent point! It could be a detour option though, remember that Luke and Margie had the chinese spoken be a waiter option that of course Luke couldn't do. They could get around it if the clue read, "one" team member must...

But this might be a bit tough on a stomach recuperating from food poisoning anyway!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 03, 2010, 01:59:33 PM
I've looked at soooo many of hamburg's bars/pubs/microbreweries/gastro-bar websites!!! (:;) :colors I could host one heck of a pub crawl there!!!  :beer:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 03, 2010, 03:09:33 PM
 :yess: Got It...Finally!!! This is our bar !! http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&ved=0CA0QFDAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haifischbar.tv%2F&rct=j&q=old+sailor+bar+hamburg+germany&ei=g8-OS9ewL8nB8gbiyrCGDQ&usg=AFQjCNGuOmCVdNCfVj3VrBfhzhl8D7JIuQ  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 03, 2010, 03:41:16 PM
:yess: Got It...Finally!!! This is our bar !! http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&ved=0CA0QFDAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haifischbar.tv%2F&rct=j&q=old+sailor+bar+hamburg+germany&ei=g8-OS9ewL8nB8gbiyrCGDQ&usg=AFQjCNGuOmCVdNCfVj3VrBfhzhl8D7JIuQ  :jumpy:

Nice!  :winner Now I can sleep tonight... :zzz
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 03, 2010, 03:42:23 PM
Great job! And nice effort by everyone too! Fischmarkt - close to the bungee then?

Jet and Cord are most definitely there during the daytime then. So first stop in Hamburg? And if the beer's a Detour, that means the Intersection only counts for the Roadblock, and then time to head for the Pit Stop?

This would be so much easier to explain if non-task beer drinking was allowed: Jet/Cord arrive too early at the Intersection, decide to check out the bungee in the clue, and then end up in the bar by chance...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: sses on March 03, 2010, 04:09:45 PM
Hi ... I am new here :)

I thought Caite was going to turn 21 while she was on the race?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 03, 2010, 04:23:42 PM
Sure enough, "old sailor bar Hamburg" leads you right to the Shark Bar (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4280889), just down the street from the bungy (street view here (http://www.sightwalk.de/?pano=411318&city=123940&pan=311&tilt=7&adresse='Grosse_Elbstrasse__124,___Hamburg')). Nice work.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: interludes on March 03, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
could the beer drinking task possibly be a fast forward?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 03, 2010, 06:16:25 PM
Hi ... I am new here :)

I thought Caite was going to turn 21 while she was on the race?

Yeah... and isn't she a little too "innocent" to be drinking?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: chill_sd on March 03, 2010, 06:27:36 PM
I'm a little confused because we know the next episode is in France, so it's not two legs in Germany, but I don't see a Beatles-related task in the previews.  I guess it could be another general task, but there seems to be a lot going on already in this episode.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 03, 2010, 06:44:57 PM
I'm a little confused because we know the next episode is in France, so it's not two legs in Germany, but I don't see a Beatles-related task in the previews.  I guess it could be another general task, but there seems to be a lot going on already in this episode.

The subway navigation could very well be the Beatles task.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 03, 2010, 06:48:26 PM
I'm not sure that's a door to the outside. It could still be at night.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 03, 2010, 07:03:25 PM
I'm not sure that's a door to the outside. It could still be at night.

If you go to the link I posted for the bar and click on tour (on left menu), there is a really great picture behind the bar, and it looks like that is a doorway possibly to the kitchen.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on March 03, 2010, 07:19:02 PM
I'm not sure that's a door to the outside. It could still be at night.

I'd go with day. What other light source would make such bright light?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 03, 2010, 07:33:55 PM
I'm not sure that's a door to the outside. It could still be at night.

I'd go with day. What other light source would make such bright light?
I think it is  a doorway to kitchen:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 03, 2010, 07:54:22 PM
oh great job caper!! :hearts:

If this is what y'all mean by outside...I'm not sure it is? It appears to lead to a place with a shiny tile wall, several pictures show a bad reflection off that wall. Pretty sure we are not seeing outside there.

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4bardoorway.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4bardoorway2.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAr16ep4bardoorway3.jpg)



Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 03, 2010, 08:06:33 PM
Kitchen it is!!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4bardoortokitchen.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 03, 2010, 08:12:33 PM
Hi ... I am new here :)

I thought Caite was going to turn 21 while she was on the race?

Yeah... and isn't she a little too "innocent" to be drinking?

She is old enough to drink in Germany:

http://www.grsproadsafety.org/themes/default/pdfs/Drinking%20Age%20Limits.pdf
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 03, 2010, 08:19:42 PM
My guess is that the Race may stick to US law, however...but who knows? Teenagers drink at that age all the time in Europe.

If they do, then it can't be a FF without ruling them out, can't be a Route info, can't be a RB, so would have to be a Detour option OR something only one person has to do. Hope Brent likes beer!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 03, 2010, 08:23:22 PM
Hi ... I am new here :)

I thought Caite was going to turn 21 while she was on the race?

She turns 21 this month.

 
could the beer drinking task possibly be a fast forward?

If they stick to US law, then prob not, since it wouldn't be fair to exclude them from trying for it.

And :welcome: to RFF to you both!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 03, 2010, 08:42:26 PM
The drinking age isn't dependent on citizenship or residency, so I don't think it should be a problem.

There was a time when I was younger when the drinking age among states weren't uniform; that was something the Republicans brought in during the Reagan Administration in response to MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving.) When I was younger different states and D.C. had different age requirements to drink alcohol == Georgia and D.C. were 18, Florida lowered it to 18 in 1971 in response to the 26th Amendment on the voting age, and other states adopted limits at 19 and 20, and other states kept it at 21. If you lived in a state with a higher age limit, you could go to an area where the drinking age was 18 and legally buy and consume alcohol there.

I know there was a task way back in a early season (probably in Germany) where one team had a member who drunk the beer almost as much as he spent getting the beer-filled steins to the right table; so drinking an alcoholic beverage per se isn't automatically prohibited on the Race, as far as I've ever heard, but I am concerned if the amount to be consumed is to be a large quantity, because binge drinking almost comes against a promise Elise made some seasons back about avoiding any more binge eating tasks after the fans really complained about it.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 04, 2010, 12:07:41 AM
ooh!  I remember that!  It was Gus (& Hera) from Season 6!  and right on the nose about Germany (Berlin)!

i miss those binge eating tasks...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Obbyz on March 04, 2010, 02:28:09 AM
At screencaps we haven't seen Joe & Heidi and Steve & Allie .Are they are going for intersection fast forward look like Rob & Kimberly and Taylor & James in season 10?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on March 04, 2010, 03:03:04 AM
I think they are in this pic.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0041.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 04, 2010, 03:23:37 AM
I think they are in this pic.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0041.jpg)

Isn't that Mike and Cord doing the bungee jump together?  It looks like Cord jumped with his cowboy hat on. How did he get it to stay on without falling off?  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Obbyz on March 04, 2010, 04:18:33 AM
I think they are in this pic.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0041.jpg)

Isn't that Mike and Cord doing the bungee jump together?  It looks like Cord jumped with his cowboy hat on. How did he get it to stay on without falling off?  :lol:

But I think the purple person who do the bungee jumping is Allie , isn't it ?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on March 04, 2010, 04:48:52 AM
I think they are in this pic.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0041.jpg)

Isn't that Mike and Cord doing the bungee jump together?  It looks like Cord jumped with his cowboy hat on. How did he get it to stay on without falling off?  :lol:

But I think the purple person who do the bungee jumping is Allie , isn't it ?

Yea it looks like Allie and Joe. In a confessional in Eppy 1, Joe said Heidi has a fear of heights, which would mean she wouldn't do it. And both Allie and Joe have only done 1 RB which would make them liable for this RB.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 04, 2010, 05:27:56 AM
I rotated this picture to see if we can get a better look at who this is:

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/untitl11.png)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 04, 2010, 05:42:32 AM
I rotated this picture to see if we can get a better look at who this is:

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/untitl11.png)

Man and woman... can't tell if Caucasian or Asian. Asian would imply Joe right?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Obbyz on March 04, 2010, 05:52:33 AM
I rotated this picture to see if we can get a better look at who this is:

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/untitl11.png)

Man and woman... can't tell if Caucasian or Asian. Asian would imply Joe right?

but the man is look like Michael / Louie , it isn't Joe I think..
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Zack. on March 04, 2010, 05:59:02 AM
But thought the cowboys both wore black:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4JetandCord.jpg)

And given how much we looked at jacket colors last leg, I'd say it's definitely Joe/Allie.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: mswood on March 04, 2010, 10:17:42 AM
Just want to give y'all a head up about the beer part with Jet & Cord. We aren't allowed to have a drink just for fun during the race unless it is part as the task. Drinking is against the rule on the Race.

So, drinking beer must be a task.
I wonder when that changed as we have seen teams drink on flights before.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: graytex on March 04, 2010, 10:50:03 AM
It's definitely the right bar.  Check out the guitar on the wall.  Good job Caper!

(http://i49.[banned image hosting site].com/2dhgxgo.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/ep%204/rff-0032.jpg)[IMG]
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: chill_sd on March 04, 2010, 10:56:04 AM
Yep, same guitar, good eye, Greytex.   And the steamship matches, too.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 04, 2010, 11:45:58 AM
If they do, then it can't be a FF without ruling them out, can't be a Route info, can't be a RB, so would have to be a Detour optLabskaus ion OR something only one person has to do. Hope Brent likes beer!!
 
I'm thinking it could be a detour - both of the cowboys are drinking out of the boot in the screencaps - could the detour be something like "bowl or boot" ie. drink a boot of beer each or eat a bowl of  Labskaus or eel soup (or some other type of traditional fair)? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2010, 11:50:34 AM
Bungee= Intersection

beer= unkniown?? maybe detour

Beatles = maybe RB?? ???

Is this a two hour episode and someone forgot to tell me??  :ascared      :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: mswood on March 04, 2010, 11:53:21 AM
Based off of previous Intersections I strongly suspect a Fast Forward, which as always been paired with the Intersection (and of course that gives us an addition task).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2010, 11:56:33 AM
Could the bungee BE the FF then??  Color me confused :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 04, 2010, 12:31:42 PM
Could the bungee BE the FF then??  Color me confused :lol:

The bungee (http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/Amazing%20Race%20Games%20Stuff/7_2_112.gif) should not be the FF because we more than one team jumping.  Once the FF is taken, racers get a note that it is gone.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on March 04, 2010, 12:39:14 PM
The Bungee is a RB? or am I on the wrong trail too!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 04, 2010, 12:40:05 PM
I am thinking this could be in the old commerical room - look at the color of the walls and the lights on the ceiling  (I tried to post link to old commerical room - not working for me :'()
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 04, 2010, 12:42:07 PM
I am thinking this could be in the old commerical room - look at the color of the walls and the lights on the ceiling  (I tried to post link to old commerical room - not working for me :'()


Here is the link:

http://www.oldcommercialroom.de/
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 04, 2010, 12:57:43 PM
The Bungee is a RB? or am I on the wrong trail too!!

That seems plausible.  However, it looks like the other half of the Intersection pair do a different task (navigate the trains).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 04, 2010, 01:03:51 PM
Intersection and Fast Forward would mean two teams win it, and the possibility of a permissible first place tie on the leg. (This happened the last time there was an FF, in fact that was the season a team won two fast forwards within the rules.)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 04, 2010, 01:36:03 PM
Intersection and Fast Forward would mean two teams win it, and the possibility of a permissible first place tie on the leg. (This happened the last time there was an FF, in fact that was the season a team won two fast forwards within the rules.)

Agreed.  But I think we have seen Brandy (?dark hair) watching a pair (my guess is Joe & Allie) on the bungee before doing the bungee with Dan.  Thus 2 Intersected teams doing the bungee.

Based on the vidcaps, Joe & Allie are essentially finished with the bungee when Brandy is shown watching them.  If bungee was a FF, the Joe & Allie Intersected alliance would win the FF and Brandy & Dan would not have to jump.

Somewhat convoluted and confusing.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 04, 2010, 01:37:19 PM
The Bungee is a RB? or am I on the wrong trail too!!

That seems plausible.  However, it looks like the other half of the Intersection pair do a different task (navigate the trains).

And the eating/drinking task would likely follow the bungee.  Otherwise the bungee would produce an ugly messy visual.  
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 04, 2010, 01:45:21 PM
maybe the navigate the subway is the FF option?

could they be taking it to the Beatles place, where the FF clue would be waiting for them?  wasn't there something about a Beatle's puzzle? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 04, 2010, 02:26:28 PM
Not sure how the Beatles will come in, but that's not where Caite/Jordan are headed. Wait. That's where they are headed, but it's in the wrong direction from where they want to go.

I'm not sure how desirable it would be to send teams to the Reeperbahn at night. It's the red light district of town.

Although Jet/Cord are seen in the bar in daylight and at the Intersection at night, I wouldn't put it past them to scout out one side of the Detour (which may come after the Intersection) if they arrive at the Intersection too early to find a partner.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2010, 02:34:13 PM
Neobie, I am not seeing the "daylight"..can you explain or show exactly what you mean by that?? If it is that doorway...we see now that that is only the reflected kitchen...not an outside window. If it is something else, I don't see it so would love you to show me... :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 04, 2010, 02:59:25 PM
Hi ... I am new here :)

I thought Caite was going to turn 21 while she was on the race?

She turns 21 this month.

 
could the beer drinking task possibly be a fast forward?

If they stick to US law, then prob not, since it wouldn't be fair to exclude them from trying for it.

And :welcome: to RFF to you both!!

I thought that the application for TAR 17 specifically stated that a person had to be at least 21 years old in order to participate.  Or do TPTB wave such a requirement for teenage beauty queens?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 04, 2010, 03:06:12 PM
I am thinking this could be in the old commerical room - look at the color of the walls and the lights on the ceiling  (I tried to post link to old commercial room - not working for me :'()
Actually, it looks like maybe the Red Lounge (known for it's cigars, etc.) (a section of the old commercial room), and I think there is smoke in the picture, or am I seeing things?  :colors They look very happy so maybe this is either the fastforward[/s] this is the pitstop??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 04, 2010, 03:15:49 PM
Yes, I am thinking the drinking, cigar-smoking cowboys and the Detectives are gonna see green leprecauns soon!

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/AssortedSmilies4/irish1.gif)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/AssortedSmilies4/western.gif)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/AssortedSmilies4/thcowboy.gif)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2010, 03:18:51 PM



I thought that the application for TAR 17 specifically stated that a person had to be at least 21 years old in order to participate.  Or do TPTB wave such a requirement for teenage beauty queens?

They did for Caite...she turns 21 this month.

HI G-MAn!! :waves:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: interludes on March 04, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
I rotated this picture to see if we can get a better look at who this is:

(http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/47/45/38/untitl11.png)

Man and woman... can't tell if Caucasian or Asian. Asian would imply Joe right?

but the man is look like Michael / Louie , it isn't Joe I think..

it's not michael or louie. the commercial teasing the episode shows michael/louie pairing up with jet/cord, jeff/jordan with brent/caite, dan/jordan with carol/brandy. so steve/allie have to be paired with joe/heidi
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Cocoa on March 04, 2010, 08:34:57 PM
I think the teams are intersected and are splitted up. Then one specific splitted intersected team will perform the Roadblock (which I think is a series of tasks: the gastronomy and the bungee). The other half will just have to wait for the team to finish.

This is what I think. I hope I don't make the mess I did during Guilin Episode.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: AmazingDT on March 04, 2010, 08:45:09 PM
So the intersected teams are:

Micahel and Louie with Jet and Cord
Brent and Caite wtih Jordan and Jeff
Dan and Jordan with Carol and Brandy
Steve and Allie with Joe and Heidi
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2010, 09:17:01 PM
This is the best I can get?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAr16ep4bungeeenhanced.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 04, 2010, 09:21:04 PM
I think the one on the right is Steve, judging from the hairline.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: AmazingDT on March 04, 2010, 09:23:23 PM
the female is a brunette.  Allie   its Joe for sure.  Not by looking at it  but because all the other teams are alreadey paired up
Micahel and Louie with Jet and Cord
Brent and Caite wtih Jordan and Jeff
Dan and Jordan with Carol and Brandy
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 04, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
I can't tell if the person on the right has a benie hat on or if that is a ponytail flying in the wind ?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 04, 2010, 09:28:38 PM
iwas thinking ponytail.... I can't be sure, but Joe and Allie seem reasonable.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 04, 2010, 11:13:34 PM
iwas thinking ponytail.... I can't be sure, but Joe and Allie seem reasonable.


I agree with you, it looks like a ponytail. Also, Joe isn't bigger than Steve. Not that much bigger anyway. So it must be Joe and Allie.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: AmazingDT on March 04, 2010, 11:53:44 PM
Allie and Steve and Joe and Heidi arrive at the inter section before Carol and Brandy and Dan and Jordan right?  Brandy is looking at them doing the RB.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 05, 2010, 03:12:17 AM
i personally don't think that there are two different tasks for the newly intersected pairs, as some people stated earlier in the thread.

i base this off of the Jordan/Caite in the subway clips.

why would BOTH Brent and Jeff opt to do a bungee jumping task, when both have stated earlier that they are no good with heights?

and give Jordan the task of navigating the subway?  and apparently Caite isn't as good at navigating as she once thought...

what i think is that the girls have to navigate their way from the intersection place to bungee jumping place, while the guys are escorted to that place and are waiting for the girls to complete the jump.

you know, something similar to the marathon roadblock in Siberia in Season 14, in the fact that one teammate is waiting for the other at the "finish line" of the task.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on March 05, 2010, 03:59:55 AM
What about something like a split detour? (never used before) The detour could be Jump it (Bungee) or find it (Subway) because the commercial does have a screen with the word "split." Then the Beer would be an additional and maybe the Rb is the eel.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 05, 2010, 04:28:43 AM
What task involves tracing the Beatles early years? Is it a specific task or implied?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on March 05, 2010, 04:32:44 AM
Look at the first post.

OTHER TASKS: Beatles-centric puzzle, eating task (?)
EVIDENCE: Press releases
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 05, 2010, 06:38:16 AM
Here is my two cents:  Could it go like this- Intersection (roadblock) :  teams pair off, one part of team goes directly to bungee and waits for other part of team to complete task - said task is to navigate the subway and find various early beatle locales spread out through the city in a kind of scavenger hunt type way picking up  clues to next part of task as they go. Finally arriving at bungee, they must look (from up on the platform)for a beatle-esque landmark  where next route marker is, before completing bungee. Teams then split back to individual teams, and next comes detour - eat or drink. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2010, 07:14:21 AM
Look in the dark?? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: caper on March 05, 2010, 07:19:16 AM
Look in the dark?? ???
There are a lot of brightly lit buildings, etc.  :duno:  I'm just reaching in the "dark"
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: chill_sd on March 05, 2010, 09:09:19 AM
I like Caper's idea.  The task would be similar to the Aussie Slang Roadblock.  And wasn't there a Sherlock Holmes task like that in London once?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: jerseydude on March 05, 2010, 09:17:49 AM
I like Caper's idea.  The task would be similar to the Aussie Slang Roadblock.  And wasn't there a Sherlock Holmes task like that in London once?

That was a detour where teams had to follow clues that led them to Baker Street. Season 7 leg 10.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: River on March 05, 2010, 09:47:50 AM
Here is my two cents:  Could it go like this- Intersection (roadblock) :  teams pair off, one part of team goes directly to bungee and waits for other part of team to complete task - said task is to navigate the subway and find various early beatle locales spread out through the city in a kind of scavenger hunt type way picking up  clues to next part of task as they go. Finally arriving at bungee, they must look (from up on the platform)for a beatle-esque landmark  where next route marker is, before completing bungee. Teams then split back to individual teams, and next comes detour - eat or drink. :duno:
It sounds too much like a copy of season 7 just with the Beatles??? I'm not sure they would do such a thing again.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 05, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
Here is my two cents:  Could it go like this- Intersection (roadblock) :  teams pair off, one part of team goes directly to bungee and waits for other part of team to complete task - said task is to navigate the subway and find various early beatle locales spread out through the city in a kind of scavenger hunt type way picking up  clues to next part of task as they go. Finally arriving at bungee, they must look (from up on the platform)for a beatle-esque landmark  where next route marker is, before completing bungee. Teams then split back to individual teams, and next comes detour - eat or drink. :duno:
It sounds too much like a copy of season 7 just with the Beatles??? I'm not sure they would do such a thing again.


I wouldn't put it past them...  :res:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on March 05, 2010, 02:10:32 PM
Here is my two cents:  Could it go like this- Intersection (roadblock) :  teams pair off, one part of team goes directly to bungee and waits for other part of team to complete task - said task is to navigate the subway and find various early beatle locales spread out through the city in a kind of scavenger hunt type way picking up  clues to next part of task as they go. Finally arriving at bungee, they must look (from up on the platform)for a beatle-esque landmark  where next route marker is, before completing bungee. Teams then split back to individual teams, and next comes detour - eat or drink. :duno:
It sounds too much like a copy of season 7 just with the Beatles??? I'm not sure they would do such a thing again.


I don't see a problem with them doing something similar to that task. Season 7 was quite a while ago. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: theschnauzers on March 05, 2010, 02:49:17 PM
Speaking of repeats, this leg will start and end in the same countries as the uber-leg in season nine. In fact, they start is about the same place and end a couple hundred miles apart.

Now that's a repeat.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 05, 2010, 04:52:06 PM
Speaking of repeats, this leg will start and end in the same countries as the uber-leg in season nine. In fact, they start is about the same place and end a couple hundred miles apart.

Now that's a repeat.

What do you mean? I personally think that the Hamburg episode is a single elimination leg.
Are you saying teams will have to immediately go to France after meeting Phil at the mat?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DeafRacer on March 05, 2010, 05:25:05 PM
Speaking of repeats, this leg will start and end in the same countries as the uber-leg in season nine. In fact, they start is about the same place and end a couple hundred miles apart.

Now that's a repeat.

What do you mean? I personally think that the Hamburg episode is a single elimination leg.
Are you saying teams will have to immediately go to France after meeting Phil at the mat?

Omg. That would be soooo EPIC!!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 05, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
Speaking of repeats, this leg will start and end in the same countries as the uber-leg in season nine. In fact, they start is about the same place and end a couple hundred miles apart.

Now that's a repeat.
Didn't the TAR9 uber-leg start in Brazil? We're in Argentina now, but yes, they will finish very close by!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: heyhay28 on March 05, 2010, 08:27:31 PM
If you look on the main page for TAR over at CBS there is a picture of Jeff and Jordan eating something, Jordan is plugging her nose...it looks like it is in a bowl...there is people playing instruments behind them, I don't know how to bring it over here so I thought I would mention it in case someone else can bring it over and wants too.


Here you go someone on AABB (BB board) got it....

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z255/haileykey/jj10.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 05, 2010, 08:47:22 PM
An accordion! I knew one would show up (at least one per season, a production mandate). Now all we need are drunken locals and the season will be complete.  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 05, 2010, 09:32:38 PM
Does that look like that German stuff you were talking about that starts with an "L"? Looks like sauerkraut to me...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 05, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
You know, this leg is so jam packed, I am starting to wonder if the Beatles task could be something the next morning BEFORE they go on to France? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: nmbeach on March 05, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
I know the preview makes it look like Jordan's in trouble, but I don't think this is the leg where they go out.  Maybe the next one.  I heard an interview(can't remember where) that Jeff said they started out on top, and got knocked down, but then they came back.  So, I'm thinking this might be the week they came back.  I do think they get knocked out next week or at least the following week.  I love Jeff & Jordan, so I hope they stay around at least another week, even though I know they dont' win.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 06, 2010, 06:48:32 AM
If you look on the main page for TAR over at CBS there is a picture of Jeff and Jordan eating something, Jordan is plugging her nose...it looks like it is in a bowl...there is people playing instruments behind them, I don't know how to bring it over here so I thought I would mention it in case someone else can bring it over and wants too.


Here you go someone on AABB (BB board) got it....

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z255/haileykey/jj10.jpg)

The windows behind them make me think they are on a boat.  Maybe a restaurant on the water?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 06, 2010, 07:19:02 AM
is that garlic??
If you look on the main page for TAR over at CBS there is a picture of Jeff and Jordan eating something, Jordan is plugging her nose...it looks like it is in a bowl...there is people playing instruments behind them, I don't know how to bring it over here so I thought I would mention it in case someone else can bring it over and wants too.


Here you go someone on AABB (BB board) got it....

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z255/haileykey/jj10.jpg)

The windows behind them make me think they are on a boat.  Maybe a restaurant on the water?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 06, 2010, 08:45:09 AM
is that garlic??


The "noodle-like" stuff looks too long to have come from a clove of garlic, even a clove of elephant garlic.

Sauerkraut does not smell very good.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 10:10:10 AM

The windows behind them make me think they are on a boat.  Maybe a restaurant on the water?

hmmm... are you talking about Das Feuerschiff Restaurant (http://www.das-feuerschiff.de/)?  :duno:

Das Feuerschiff (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1266259647030453903OfQyxx)   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 06, 2010, 10:15:56 AM

The windows behind them make me think they are on a boat.  Maybe a restaurant on the water?

hmmm... are you talking about Das Feuerschiff Restaurant (http://www.das-feuerschiff.de/)?  :duno:

Das Feuerschiff (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1266259647030453903OfQyxx)   :lol:

That restaurant's menu seemed pretty norma from their menu..doesn't look anything like what they are eating..

Appetizers
Stint in beer batter fried
with lemon and tartar sauce
baguette
€ 9.50

Main courses
Classic fried smelt
Potato salad with bacon
and lettuce in Zitronenrahm
€ 15.50

Stint in Mandelpanade baked
with parsley potatoes
and cucumber salad
€ 16.50
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on March 06, 2010, 10:34:33 AM
Speaking of repeats, this leg will start and end in the same countries as the uber-leg in season nine. In fact, they start is about the same place and end a couple hundred miles apart.

Now that's a repeat.

Season 9 went from Brazil to Russia to Germany, this season would (if it happens) go from Argentina to Germany to France. Not at all the same starting or ending locations, and not that close to each other, either. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DavidJunior on March 06, 2010, 12:03:49 PM
he was off on the starting point.

but what he's saying is that the leg would end very close to where the uber-leg ended.

not that it's necessarily an uber-leg itself.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 06, 2010, 12:19:38 PM

The windows behind them make me think they are on a boat.  Maybe a restaurant on the water?

hmmm... are you talking about Das Feuerschiff Restaurant (http://www.das-feuerschiff.de/)?  :duno:

Das Feuerschiff (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1266259647030453903OfQyxx)   :lol:

That restaurant's menu seemed pretty norma from their menu..doesn't look anything like what they are eating..

Appetizers
Stint in beer batter fried
with lemon and tartar sauce
baguette
€ 9.50


Main courses
Classic fried smelt
Potato salad with bacon
and lettuce in Zitronenrahm
€ 15.50

Stint in Mandelpanade baked
with parsley potatoes
and cucumber salad
€ 16.50

Believe we are on to something with the floating restuarant , however the music specialty here is jazz, not the instruments behind jj. 





T
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2010, 12:29:03 PM
I am not so sure...this is the restaurant on the boat.

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 12:36:36 PM

The windows behind them make me think they are on a boat.  Maybe a restaurant on the water?

hmmm... are you talking about Das Feuerschiff Restaurant (http://www.das-feuerschiff.de/)?  :duno:

Das Feuerschiff (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1266259647030453903OfQyxx)   :lol:

That restaurant's menu seemed pretty norma from their menu..doesn't look anything like what they are eating..


 :lol:  menu? ...menu? ...we don't need no stinkin' menu!!!  according to this link (http://www.feuerschiffseite.de/RESTAURA/essengb.htm), you can get Labskaus on the "Lightship".   :snicker:

Might not be the restuarant, peach... but rather the bar area below deck.   :duno:  still lookin' for a pix of the bar
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
Well there is this...is the chair a match?? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2010, 01:31:29 PM
Not exactly sure what we are looking for re the Beatles, but here is a video compilation of the Hamburg locations:

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 02:01:40 PM
 :groan: oh lets confuse things up some more....  the designs on the JJ plates is similar to the design on the china in the Rickmer Rickmers (sailship) restaurant.   :lol:  Too bad nothing else matches... these plates could be common to Hamburg.   :neener:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: JGR on March 06, 2010, 02:20:28 PM
Could this possible by it?

Cafe Museumshafen
Ponton Neumühlen, Hamburg, Germany
Tel: +49 40 397383 • Web: Visit this site »
 

This cafe and restaurant on a discarded Elbe ferry in the harbour-museum at Oevelgonne has both regional cuisine and a view of the river Elbe. The ferry with the cafe is located between the old ships and the steam crane in the harbour-museum. In the summer the roof can be taken off for an even better view. If you don't get seasick you will enjoy dining here, but it can get a bit rough. Aboard, everything from breakfast, fish dishes with herring variations and hearty plain cooking, to coffee, tea and cake in the afternoon, and even beer and other beverages for the late night guests, is available at reasonable prices. On Sundays from 11a-2p there is a sumptuous brunch for EUR 12.50.


Well there is this...is the chair a match?? ???
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 06, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
Hi Peach,
Since you are all wonderful Detectives and you like my Smilies...here is one for you all:

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/AssortedSmilies4/persondetective.gif)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 03:49:11 PM
Could this possible by it?

Cafe Museumshafen
Ponton Neumühlen, Hamburg, Germany
Tel: +49 40 397383 • Web: Visit this site »
 

This cafe and restaurant on a discarded Elbe ferry in the harbour-museum at Oevelgonne has both regional cuisine and a view of the river Elbe. The ferry with the cafe is located between the old ships and the steam crane in the harbour-museum. In the summer the roof can be taken off for an even better view. If you don't get seasick you will enjoy dining here, but it can get a bit rough. Aboard, everything from breakfast, fish dishes with herring variations and hearty plain cooking, to coffee, tea and cake in the afternoon, and even beer and other beverages for the late night guests, is available at reasonable prices. On Sundays from 11a-2p there is a sumptuous brunch for EUR 12.50.


hmmmm... not really seeing any chairs... looks like all bench seating...  if it's not the food challenge location, then it would make a great pitstop... lots of other historic boats on this pier... and we know how TPTB like to put Phil and the greeter at the end of a pier or dock....   :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 06, 2010, 04:20:07 PM
is that garlic??


The "noodle-like" stuff looks too long to have come from a clove of garlic, even a clove of elephant garlic.

Sauerkraut does not smell very good.
Apparently white asparagus is also a Fischmarkt speciality.  Honestly, looks like sauerkraut and pork to me, although can't imagine why producers wouldn't feature fish, eel, etc.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 06, 2010, 05:38:30 PM
Hi Peach,
Since you are all wonderful Detectives and you like my Smilies...here is one for you all:

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/DianeGraycee/AssortedSmilies4/persondetective.gif)
Cool smiley! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 06, 2010, 06:31:43 PM
Quote
Not exactly sure what we are looking for re the Beatles, but here is a video compilation of the Hamburg locations
It's available in map form here (http://www.lisius.de/). I can't link to it directly: click the center image to bring up the menu bar. Then you can choose "there's a place" in Hamburg and click on individual Beatle spots, or click the map link to see groups of them displayed. The trouble is, most Beatle spots are centered around the Reeperbahn station. The metro scavenger hunt might include non-Beatles stuff.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 06, 2010, 07:41:51 PM

The windows behind them make me think they are on a boat.  Maybe a restaurant on the water?

hmmm... are you talking about Das Feuerschiff Restaurant (http://www.das-feuerschiff.de/)?  :duno:

Das Feuerschiff (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1266259647030453903OfQyxx)   :lol:

That restaurant's menu seemed pretty norma from their menu..doesn't look anything like what they are eating..

Appetizers
Stint in beer batter fried
with lemon and tartar sauce
baguette
€ 9.50

Main courses
Classic fried smelt
Potato salad with bacon
and lettuce in Zitronenrahm
€ 15.50

Stint in Mandelpanade baked
with parsley potatoes
and cucumber salad
€ 16.50

The food does not have to be on the menu.  The location of the eating task is more important.  For that matter,  TPTB could stage the whole eating task on a random boat.  By not having the eating task at restaurant, there are fewer eye-witnesses; fewer people to help spoilers.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 06, 2010, 08:57:02 PM
Bringing this over...thanks apskip!!

I think it's time for a comprehensive overview of how the remaining teams will get from Bariloche to Hamburg. First, a few basics:

1. all flights from San Carlos de Bariloche to Buenos Aires (and they are only a few) go into Jorge Newberry (AEP) airport.
2. Public transportation must be taken to get from AEP to the Pistiani (EZE) international airport. Here is information on the schedules for those buses - Airport Shuttle
 
Manuel Tienda Leon Bus runs every 30 minutes to the Retiro Bus Station (near Retiro Train Station) and to the Manuel Tienda Leon terminal (Terminal Madero at 1299 Avenida Madero) at the back of the Sheraton Hotel at Plaza San Martin. Buses continue to Ezeiza International Airport. There is a MTL desk in the Arrivals area. Buses leave the airport every 30 minutes 08:30-20:00 then at 21:00 and 21:45

We start with SCB AEP and find that almost everything misconnects with outbound international flights. The only really worthy flight that connects after huge delay is AR2674 2145 2350. Teams would sleep near AEP airport and then get the 0830 bus TO EZE. They would then be able to book one of these these transatlantic flight combinations:

BA246 EZE LHR 1315 0705+1
LH4791 LHR HAM 0915+1 1155+1

G37659 EZE GRU 1420 1700
LH507   GRU FRA 1905 1035+1
LH012   FRA HAM 1215+1 1315+1

LH519 EZE FRA 2150 1500+1
LH018 FRA HAM 1600+1 1700+1

An iffy proposition is this:
BRC AEP AR1683 1220 1425  OR BRC AEP LA4345 1230 1435
then the bus transfer (or maybe a taxi to make it a sure thing),
followed by only the last set of flights above.[/size]
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 06, 2010, 09:19:33 PM
Thanks Apskip for the airport transfer information! Boingo discovered caps for the Frankfurt Airport train station though, so I'm pretty sure teams are mandated to enter the country via Frankfurt to ease customs clearing. This has usually been the case when the destination doesn't host the largest airport in the country/region, for example teams in TAR 14 were mandated to fly into Moscow before heading to Krasnoyarsk, and to fly via Guangzhou to get to Guilin.

I have some flights from Buenos Aires to Frankfurt in the Timeline Thread: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21194.msg513305.html#msg513305.

I believe teams are released in Bariloche in the morning of the 4th, not the afternoon/evening of the 3rd, otherwise they should all be bunched up and able to reach Hamburg in the daytime. Most of them arrive at the Intersection in the dark, though.

In particular, for Jet/Cord to arrive in Hamburg by sunset (4.02pm), it looks like they are going to take (and make) this itinerary:
AR 2681 to Buenos Aires AEP, 1110-1313
Transfer to Buenos Aires EZE
JJ 8005 to Sao Paulo, 1520-1900
LH 507 to Frankfurt, 2005-1035
ICE to Hamburg, 1137-1534
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 09:49:08 PM
 :lol:  curious, Neobie.... the only ICE train I see in the DB website in that timeframe is the 12:42 (ICE 578) train.  Either way, if they arrive anytime around 16:00 it should be sufficiently dark (as it was December 4-5).   ;)

looks like there's an ICE train every 2 hours from Frankfurt Flughafen to Hamburg-Altona (8:42, 10:42, 12:42...)  B:)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 06, 2010, 10:03:31 PM
Hmm, maybe because I'm assuming they arrive on the 5th, and that the Saturday schedule remains the same?

This train goes to Hamburg Hbf, not Altona.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 06, 2010, 10:15:21 PM
 :groan:  wow, this schedule really changes day to day... I was looking at the Sunday sched....  but Friday sched has trains every 4 hours.. go figure...

it's only 30 mins. diff between Hamburg Hbf and Hamburg-Altona stations.  :lol:   I guess we really need to know the exact day they arrived to be sure.   :res:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 06, 2010, 10:32:13 PM
Ack, moot anyway. I think they changed the timetables 13 Dec.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 07, 2010, 03:05:43 AM
The thing that confuses me about the previews for this episode is why they aren't mentioning the Beatles task (if there is one) more prominently. That would seem to be a much more attractive hook for the audience than bungee jumping and beer drinking.   :duno:

I do think there is a Beatles task. We've seen enough references to it for something to be happening. Also, someone posted a link to a Beatles impersonation band a while back that had a reference to being on The Amazing Race. The band was touring Germany at the time the race was there too.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 07, 2010, 03:18:02 AM
The thing that confuses me about the previews for this episode is why they aren't mentioning the Beatles task (if there is one) more prominently. That would seem to be a much more attractive hook for the audience than bungee jumping and beer drinking.   :duno:

I do think there is a Beatles task. We've seen enough references to it for something to be happening. Also, someone posted a link to a Beatles impersonation band a while back that had a reference to being on The Amazing Race. The band was touring Germany at the time the race was there too.

Plaidmoon


I keep thinking the Beatles task could have something to do with a Fast Forward?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on March 07, 2010, 05:51:00 AM
The thing that confuses me about the previews for this episode is why they aren't mentioning the Beatles task (if there is one) more prominently. That would seem to be a much more attractive hook for the audience than bungee jumping and beer drinking.   :duno:

I do think there is a Beatles task. We've seen enough references to it for something to be happening. Also, someone posted a link to a Beatles impersonation band a while back that had a reference to being on The Amazing Race. The band was touring Germany at the time the race was there too.

Plaidmoon


I keep thinking the Beatles task could have something to do with a Fast Forward?
I was thinking along those lines also, and as mentioned earlier by others in this thread, both previous Intersections have had a Fast Forward attached to it.

Just a quick question: Is there ANY possibility at all that the Beatles-related task is staged in a different leg? Do they have any significance with the cities we head to in future legs, because other than a Fast Forward, I don't see how this will fit it. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 07, 2010, 06:17:32 AM
The thing that confuses me about the previews for this episode is why they aren't mentioning the Beatles task (if there is one) more prominently. That would seem to be a much more attractive hook for the audience than bungee jumping and beer drinking.   :duno:

I do think there is a Beatles task. We've seen enough references to it for something to be happening. Also, someone posted a link to a Beatles impersonation band a while back that had a reference to being on The Amazing Race. The band was touring Germany at the time the race was there too.

Plaidmoon


I keep thinking the Beatles task could have something to do with a Fast Forward?
I was thinking along those lines also, and as mentioned earlier by others in this thread, both previous Intersections have had a Fast Forward attached to it.

Just a quick question: Is there ANY possibility at all that the Beatles-related task is staged in a different leg? Do they have any significance with the cities we head to in future legs, because other than a Fast Forward, I don't see how this will fit it. :duno:

At the CBS Amazing Race web site, the promo for the next episode is the picture of Jeff/Jordan eating and it does not mention the Beatles.  The only mention of the Beatles comes from a TV guide preview that puddin posted on page 1 (#16) of this thread.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 06:26:18 AM
There was enough media about a Beatles puzzle that I believe it...doesn't mean it wasn't left on the cutting room floor though if other things proved more interesting...we lost a whole leg than way once.  :groan:

Remember that we have seen teams have to do a task in the same country before,  as they leave the pitstop....

In season 10, teams performed the RB of a leg while still  in Morocco (prepare and eat camel meat) before leaving for Spain where we had the detour (infamous tomatoes).

Perhaps we will see something similar here  (just spec...) ?? I can see the Beatles task being better suited to daylight anyway, specially if it involves the museum.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 06:40:47 AM
Can anyone PM me a link to watch season 10 please? I am trying to watch Intersections and my old link is "account suspended"... :groan: Season 13 would be nice too while I am at it :lol:

Thanks so much guys...got it!!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 07, 2010, 07:54:40 AM
Phil - This is Hamburg, Germany.  Port city in Northern Germany that was home to the Beatles from 1960-1962.  Next door to a Reeperbahn club the Beatles made famous ....
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 07, 2010, 07:55:56 AM
There was enough media about a Beatles puzzle that I believe it...doesn't mean it wasn't left on the cutting room floor though if other things proved more interesting...we lost a whole leg than way once.  :groan:

Remember that we have seen teams have to do a task in the same country before,  as they leave the pitstop....

In season 10, teams performed the RB of a leg while still  in Morocco (prepare and eat camel meat) before leaving for Spain where we had the detour (infamous tomatoes).

Perhaps we will see something similar here  (just spec...) ?? I can see the Beatles task being better suited to daylight anyway, specially if it involves the museum.

Actually, I agree with Peach.  A Beatles Museum task could be a daylight item.  And that could take place before the head to France.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 08:28:41 AM
Okay...so just did a quick rewatch of the season 10 Intersecrtion.

Teams Intersected>>had the option of doing the FF together(cowlips)
Non-FF teams did a detour while Intersected (move mattresses or make paper)
and then were un-Intersected for the RB.
=========================================
So I guess we have choices for our ep...y'all help me out with this okay?? Trying to work this out, thinking out loud: peach's stream of consciousness  :colors

Tasks to play with:
Bungee (Intersected)
Metro (Intersected)
Beer (non-Intersected)
Eating (non-Intersected)
"Beatles centric puzzle"

One choice:
The bungee is an Intersected FF that only one pair of the Intersected teams has to do, whiile the other half of the Intersected team has to use the metro to get to ...somewhere.
My concern on this is why would we see three different teams doing this?? If Brandy and Dan knew Joe(?) and Allie had already chosen this...why would they do it?? ???

So we also see non Intersected teams (Cowboys and JJ) doing beer drinking and eating...so that seems to fit with caper's proposed eat or drink detour choice.

UNLESS the eating is a FF...and this is where Jeff wants to kill Jordan for not being competitve enough.

So instead of a FF, could it be Intersect for a RB here...which would be the bungee/other half has to use the metro to get to the somewhere as caper said:

Here is my two cents:  Could it go like this- Intersection (roadblock) :  teams pair off, one part of team goes directly to bungee and waits for other part of team to complete task - said task is to navigate the subway and find various early beatle locales spread out through the city in a kind of scavenger hunt type way picking up  clues to next part of task as they go. Finally arriving at bungee, they must look (from up on the platform)for a beatle-esque landmark  where next route marker is, before completing bungee. Teams then split back to individual teams, and next comes detour - eat or drink. :duno:

But then where is the FF?? Could THAT have been the Beatles task, and it wasn't used, so we don't get to see it?? Or something else entirely (eating)?

And is the metro part of the Intersected task alone? Or part of a Beatles scavenger hunt??

So does this work? :duno:

Intersect>> RB (two parts, one new "team" bungees, while the other half takes the metro to the somewhere (to meet up again??) , un-Intersect for the Detour?  FF (Beatles) not used...not seen :(

OR

Intersect>> FF (bungee-one team member does it, while the other half of the team goes to somewhere), other teams have to do an Intersected RB  (Beatles, use the metro, scavenger hunt  while split up), Then Detour eat or drink...

OR

Beer>>route info clue
FF>> nasty eating (fits with them making the Eating challenges a choice in recent seasons) would have to be Brent/Caite/JJ right?? And possibly failed? (clues::Jeff wants to kill Jordan for not being competitve, B/C recovering from food poisoning)
RB>>Intersected bungee (Cowboys--Detectives, Brandy/Carol/Dan/Jordan, by process of elim: Steve/Allie with Joe/Heidi)
Unintersected Detour: Beatles vs something else

Or we could have no FF at all, or WORSE, it could be unshown. :groan:

And then the Beatles task could be after the next AM post Pitstop... or not


Questions:

*Is the Bungee part of a RB (Intersected)...or a FF? (doubt)

*Is the Metro part of the RB(Intersected) "Take the Metro to rejoin your team somewhere" ...

OR

part of an Intersected Beatles task?

*When OR not do we see the Beatles  task??

*Is the FF the eating task, or is that part of the detour? If it is eating, do teams succeed or not?

*Could the beer be a general route clue (possible prob, Caite's age) or it that part of a Detour. And if it is part of a Detour, WHY do the Cowboys choose this one when reportedly Cord doesn't drink? ???



Okay, I think I have just confused myself more. Y'all watch for more previews today, okay?? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 08:55:32 AM
eeeek!! Did we forget the TV Guide blurb that puddin scanned for us??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%204%20Germany/TAR16ep4TVGuidepromo.jpg)

Twist or Shout >>dance or sing sounds like a perfect Beatles detour!!

My latest idea:

Beer> route marker
Intersected RB (bungee plus other half metros's to meet up with the rest of the team)
with Intersected FF>>nasty eating, Jordan fails, meaning those two teams are behind, possible JJ elim :(
Detour Twist or Shout >>Beatles tasks

I can't quite make the Joe/Allie being ahead of at least one team at the RB synch with Joe/Heidi being elim'd though, although anything can happen as we know.

Trivia experts: Has there EVER been an Intersection that had a non-elim too??

There have been FF episodes with non-elims though right??






How does THAT sound??
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 08:56:09 AM
Just warning y'all....this could go on all day!! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 07, 2010, 09:08:46 AM
peach, i read from the cbspressexpress site and managed to get a copy of the TAR release, it says:

We Are No Longer In The Bible Belt" (Germany) — Racers must navigate an unfamiliar and confusing train system without their teammates, take a dive over Hamburg and reunite for a nausea-inducing lesson in German gastronomy, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

so it should be the the skydive and beer comes first and food comes last
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 07, 2010, 09:49:35 AM
peach, i read from the cbspressexpress site and managed to get a copy of the TAR release, it says:

We Are No Longer In The Bible Belt" (Germany) — Racers must navigate an unfamiliar and confusing train system without their teammates, take a dive over Hamburg and reunite for a nausea-inducing lesson in German gastronomy, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

so it should be the the skydive and beer comes first and food comes last

So does that mean that J/C must bungi-jump together AFTER navigating the train & what are J/B doing while J/C are on the train? Drinking the beer? Then is it just B/D jumping? And M/C jumping(whichever cowboy that is)?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 11:09:43 AM
peach, i read from the cbspressexpress site and managed to get a copy of the TAR release, it says:

We Are No Longer In The Bible Belt" (Germany) — Racers must navigate an unfamiliar and confusing train system without their teammates, take a dive over Hamburg and reunite for a nausea-inducing lesson in German gastronomy, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

so it should be the the skydive and beer comes first and food comes last

Thanks Evan...we had that one thanks to puddin here

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21707.msg513323.html#msg513323

but I agree with your order.

Diane, it just means what it says. The wording of the press releases often suggests the task order.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 11:11:27 AM
I am sure this is in the other threads somewhere...but if y'all haven't looked around the Beatlemania Museum, it is worth a look. There is a press packet of photos...

This would make an excellent Pitstop.



http://www.beatlemania-hamburg.com/english/index.html
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 07, 2010, 11:41:42 AM
yer welcome peach, hopefully your wish gets granted in a few hours time, Pitstop of your own choice, haha
I am sure this is in the other threads somewhere...but if y'all haven't looked around the Beatlemania Museum, it is worth a look. There is a press packet of photos...

This would make an excellent Pitstop.



http://www.beatlemania-hamburg.com/english/index.html
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Zack. on March 07, 2010, 12:05:38 PM
Rewatching TAR 13, I think that the RB is the jump/metro combined, the clue could be like "Who doesn't get disoriented easily?" and then they would have to jump and then navigate the metro. The nonperforming members would get shuttled off to the end point while the ones chosen to do the RB would have to travel by metro.

They did something similar to this in TAR 13's penultimate leg; the RB performers had to travel by taxi first to the statue park, then the bookstore, and received their clue/met up with their teammate at the author's apartment, while the other teammates were taken straight to the apartment building.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 12:24:40 PM
Oh that is a great analagy!! I remember that task...

Hmmm.... I have been thinking of Jordan and Caite as the non-jumpers...but now that you mention it...don't both Jeff and Brent have issues with heights?? So maybe they ARE the jumpers AND the metro girls!!

We'll figure this sucker out yet! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DianeC on March 07, 2010, 12:44:24 PM
Oh that is a great analagy!! I remember that task...

Hmmm.... I have been thinking of Jordan and Caite as the non-jumpers...but now that you mention it...don't both Jeff and Brent have issues with heights?? So maybe they ARE the jumpers AND the metro girls!!

We'll figure this sucker out yet! :yess:

YES Peach, that is what i meant above because J/B hate heights, therfore the girls do BOTH! :yess:

So does that mean that J/C must bungi-jump together AFTER navigating the train & what are J/B doing while J/C are on the train? Drinking the beer? Then is it just B/D jumping? And M/C jumping(whichever cowboy that is)?  
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: AmazingDT on March 07, 2010, 01:00:36 PM
maybe the RB clue tricked them like, Who's ready to experiance extremes?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 07, 2010, 01:02:43 PM
Yeah, I'm going to have to say the roadblock is both the bungee and subway navigation (find the Beatles perhaps).

Can't the beer and the food be two ends of the detour? After all, gastronomy is just food and its relation to culture...
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 07, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
FROM THE COUNTRYSIDE TO THE CONCRETE JUNGLE, TEAMS TRAVEL TO GERMANY WHERE THEY COME FACE-TO-FACE WITH THE HAMBURG SKYLINE, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, MARCH 7 ON CBS

"We Are No Longer In The Bible Belt" (Germany) — Racers must navigate an unfamiliar and confusing train system without their teammates, take a dive over Hamburg and reunite for a nausea-inducing lesson in German gastronomy, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, March 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is host.

r:lol:  looks like we are in for a food challenge...  "gastronomy" would imply food, not just beer... hmmmm


only local Hamburg food that might qualify as nausea-inducing might be Labskaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labskaus)   :duno:



Could be the following: Intersection with bungee roadblock performed by 2 and 2 navigate train to possibly Beatles Platz in St. Pauli.  Before jumping the 2 have to settle themselves and look for the meet-up clue and upon completion taxi over to St. Pauli to meet their team members.  The intersected teams split and original teams detour to drink/eat.  The beer drinking from the  boot is not a simple matter, there is technique to avoid repeating the effort.  Both could be nausea provoking.  This scenario does not include a fast forward and includes a nod to the Beatles.  U
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 07, 2010, 01:30:03 PM

(Sorry to confuse, but haven't master the editor)
Could be the following: Intersection with bungee roadblock performed by 2 and other 2 navigate train to a Beatles task, possibly at Beatles Platz in St. Pauli.  Before jumping the 2 have to settle themselves and look for the meet-up clue and upon completion taxi over to St. Pauli to meet their team members.  The intersected teams split and original teams detour to drink/eat.  The beer drinking from the  boot is not a simple matter, there is technique to avoid repeating the effort.  Both could be nausea provoking.  This scenario does not include a fast forward and includes a nod to the Beatles. 

Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 07, 2010, 01:36:14 PM
Better to have Jeff and Brent jump, and Jordan and Caite navigate, and thus overcome their fears -- this is the amazing race afterall!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Dånooky on March 07, 2010, 01:41:16 PM
How about the Beatles task is just a "find a place" task? Like in S7 when the final four had to fetch their next clue in Abbey Road?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 07, 2010, 01:45:42 PM
Better to have Jeff and Brent jump, and Jordan and Caite navigate, and thus overcome their fears -- this is the amazing race afterall!


I thought the train we saw Catie and Jordan take brings you to the bungee jump and Jeff and Brent are waiting to meet up with them?. I did not see Jordan's backpack on her in the train screencaps posted?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Sailing on March 07, 2010, 01:48:15 PM
What if all these tasks are done at places the Beatles went to and the new Beatles-centric museum that opened there in May 2009 is the Pit Stop were Phil greets them?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: mswood on March 07, 2010, 01:50:34 PM
When do we see more then the cowboys drinking?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 07, 2010, 02:02:03 PM

Thinking that navigating confusing trains is one task separate from the bungee task.  Besides Jeff often carries Jordan's backpack and she does have the fanny pack with travel documents.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: beatlelovr on March 07, 2010, 02:03:51 PM
I am late to the party talking about who says the title, but folks in the Bible Belt rarely refer to it as the "Bible Belt."  I find the choice of words would likely be from a more recent resident to the area.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 07, 2010, 02:07:29 PM
How about the Beatles task is just a "find a place" task? Like in S7 when the final four had to fetch their next clue in Abbey Road?

That's my belief. It's a good way to trace their path.

I wouldn't look too deeply into TV guide's wording. A challenge is very vague: doesn't have to be a detour, could just be a difficult route info puzzle.

To summarize my specs:
Flight to Frankfurt
Train to Hamburg
Intersection w/ Roadblock
Beer/Food Detour
Pit Stop

No FF.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 07, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
I am late to the party talking about who says the title, but folks in the Bible Belt rarely refer to it as the "Bible Belt."  I find the choice of words would likely be from a more recent resident to the area.  Just a thought.


Ahh, like the 2 men seated at the bar interacting with the Cowboys?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 07, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
Better to have Jeff and Brent jump, and Jordan and Caite navigate, and thus overcome their fears -- this is the amazing race afterall!

 :groan:  that argument went "out the window" at the waterslide in Dubai.   :lol:   We learned you can't get some people to overcome their fears, not even for $1M.   Go directly to Elimination Station, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: b4us on March 07, 2010, 03:48:49 PM
Better to have Jeff and Brent jump, and Jordan and Caite navigate, and thus overcome their fears -- this is the amazing race afterall!

 :groan:  that argument went "out the window" at the waterslide in Dubai.   :lol:   We learned you can't get some people to overcome their fears, not even for $1M.   Go directly to Elimination Station, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.



Exactly, great divider.  I'm a JJ and BC supporter, so I hope for the best.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gator27 on March 07, 2010, 04:28:33 PM
I am late to the party talking about who says the title, but folks in the Bible Belt rarely refer to it as the "Bible Belt."  I find the choice of words would likely be from a more recent resident to the area.  Just a thought.


Ahh, like the 2 men seated at the bar interacting with the Cowboys?

The Reeperbahn is Hamburg's redlight district.  As one of the teams walks down that street, they utter the title.

The Reeperbahn is the location of some of the clubs in which the Beatles played.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: beatlelovr on March 07, 2010, 06:15:14 PM
What I meant was someone from another region of the US as a recent transplant to the Bible Belt.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 07, 2010, 06:35:45 PM
puddin's suggestion of a Labskaus meal look right on to me. Here is the explanation:

Labskaus is a specialty from Northern Germany and in particular from the cities of Bremen, Lübeck, and Hamburg. The main ingredients are salted meat or corned beef, potatoes, herring, onion and beetroot. The meal is traditionally prepared by boiling the beef in broth and then mincing it with the beetroot, onions, boiled potatoes and herring (some recipes use ham). Finally the base is fried in lard. Countless variations of the dish exist.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 06:37:51 PM
I think that was Boingo... but the picture doesn't look like that.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 07, 2010, 06:39:14 PM
Better to have Jeff and Brent jump, and Jordan and Caite navigate, and thus overcome their fears -- this is the amazing race afterall!

And let two girls make their own way in the dark at night in one of Europe's seediest neighborhood? No way Jose!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Dånooky on March 07, 2010, 06:41:20 PM
Better to have Jeff and Brent jump, and Jordan and Caite navigate, and thus overcome their fears -- this is the amazing race afterall!

And let two girls make their own way in the dark at night in one of Europe's seediest neighborhood? No way Jose!
European red light districts aren't that seedy. I stayed once at a Hostel in Frankfurt's red light district and it was quite safe.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 07, 2010, 06:45:12 PM
I put this in the wrong thread. Thanks, boingo for pointing that out. Here is the flight information better late than never.


It's time for a comprehensive overview of how the remaining teams will get from Bariloche to Hamburg. First, a few basics:

1. all flights from San Carlos de Bariloche to Buenos Aires (and they are only a few) go into Jorge Newberry (AEP) airport.
2. Public transportation must be taken to get from AEP to the Pistiani (EZE) international airport. Here is information on the schedules for those buses - Airport Shuttle
 
Manuel Tienda Leon Bus runs every 30 minutes to the Retiro Bus Station (near Retiro Train Station) and to the Manuel Tienda Leon terminal (Terminal Madero at 1299 Avenida Madero) at the back of the Sheraton Hotel at Plaza San Martin. Buses continue to Ezeiza International Airport. There is a MTL desk in the Arrivals area. Buses leave the airport every 30 minutes 08:30-20:00 then at 21:00 and 21:45

We start with SCB AEP and find that almost everything misconnects with outbound international flights. The only really worthy flight that connects after huge delay is AR2674 2145 2350. Teams would sleep near AEP airport and then get the 0830 bus TO EZE. They would then be able to book one of these these transatlantic flight combinations:

BA246 EZE LHR 1315 0705+1
LH4791 LHR HAM 0915+1 1155+1

G37659 EZE GRU 1420 1700
LH507   GRU FRA 1905 1035+1
LH012   FRA HAM 1215+1 1315+1

LH519 EZE FRA 2150 1500+1
LH018 FRA HAM 1600+1 1700+1

An iffy proposition is this:
BRC AEP AR1683 1220 1425  OR BRC AEP LA4345 1230 1435
then the bus transfer (or maybe a taxi to make it a sure thing),
followed by only the last set of flights above.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 06:45:29 PM
I stayed in the redlight district in a hostel in Amsterdam when I was a young thing...and I think it took me about 3 days to realize it. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 07, 2010, 06:46:57 PM
I brought that over for you already apskip, thanks!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 07, 2010, 08:02:04 PM
Here's the band who was playing Mr Postman for us: The ReBeatles (http://"http://www.rebeatles.de/")

I don't know if Caite/Jordan actually got on the wrong train. They started off at Jungfernstieg and were headed for Landungsbrucken, but decide they're on the wrong train at Stadthausbrucke, the only station in between the two. Are we missing something?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on March 07, 2010, 11:38:44 PM
Leaderboard as at the 4th episode:

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/Evan_Weinstein/TAR16-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 07, 2010, 11:59:35 PM
 :groan:  Alt Hamburger Burgerhaus  ...since 1686  :res:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Boingo on March 08, 2010, 12:34:53 AM
 :lol:  oh sure, easy once you know where they went...  :res:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 08, 2010, 02:16:06 AM

To summarize my specs:
Flight to Frankfurt
Train to Hamburg
Intersection w/ Roadblock
Beer/Food Detour
Pit Stop

No FF.

Flight to Frankfurt
Train to Hamburg
Intersection w/ Roadblock
Soccer/Food Detour
Beer task
Pit Stop (Beatles)

No FF. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2010, 08:04:08 AM
I felt compelled to figure out which flights teams actually took to arrive at the designated times of 235pm, 300pm and 340pm into Frankfurt airport. First of all, I cannot understand why World Race Productions forced all flights through Frankfurt. For flights through Heathrow or Charles de Gaulle going nonstop into Hamburg made much more sense. Also, the 1110 Austral Airlines flight out of Bariloche appears to me to be a fiction of somebody's imagination. No such flight appears to exist.

The first arriving flight combination had to be through Sao Paulo:

LA6469 1810 2050 EZE GRU
LH9829 2245 1440 GRU FRA This was reported to arrive at 1426, but stretching that to 1435 is within credibility.

The second one was:
LH511 2150 1500 EZE FRA (with an actual reported arrival of 1506)

The third is problematical, as there is nothing that fits perfectly. The closest is
AF417 1800 1100 EZE CDG
LH4219 1350 1510 CDG FRA (with an actual reported arrival of 1506)

I projected earlier and later flights but none of these, but I was projecting all the way to Hamburg, so that changed the connecting cities and arrival options.


Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Caelestor on March 08, 2010, 11:08:01 AM
I think it may have been easier to go through customs at Frankfurt. That, or to delay the team's arrivals such  that the leg would take place at night.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: DeafRacer on March 08, 2010, 01:21:42 PM
Better to have Jeff and Brent jump, and Jordan and Caite navigate, and thus overcome their fears -- this is the amazing race afterall!

And let two girls make their own way in the dark at night in one of Europe's seediest neighborhood? No way Jose!

Producers always made sure the places are safe! Plus they got a cameraman and a sound man with them so they're fine!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: apskip on March 08, 2010, 01:46:02 PM
I think it may have been easier to go through customs at Frankfurt. That, or to delay the team's arrivals such  that the leg would take place at night.

I doubt that customs would be the reason. There are a myriad of flights arriving into Europe everyday and it would be totally inefficient to route all German flights through Frankfurt (and presumably also Munich, Dusseldorf and Berlin)  before connecting to other German cities.

Caelestor, I think you have nailed it with the "leg would at night" proposition. The bungee would have attracted great attention if visible in daylight. There are many fewer prying eyes that could have spotted this task in action and reported it to the world. I don't think it mattered if the soccer stadium, sauerkraut restaurant, beer pub or club were at night or in daylight, but the bungee would be a big deal.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Zack. on March 08, 2010, 02:44:02 PM
I think it may have been easier to go through customs at Frankfurt. That, or to delay the team's arrivals such  that the leg would take place at night.

I doubt that customs would be the reason. There are a myriad of flights arriving into Europe everyday and it would be totally inefficient to route all German flights through Frankfurt (and presumably also Munich, Dusseldorf and Berlin)  before connecting to other German cities.

Caelestor, I think you have nailed it with the "leg would at night" proposition. The bungee would have attracted great attention if visible in daylight. There are many fewer prying eyes that could have spotted this task in action and reported it to the world. I don't think it mattered if the soccer stadium, sauerkraut restaurant, beer pub or club were at night or in daylight, but the bungee would be a big deal.

Especially given the attention at the Singapore Flyer.

Though they have forced teams through Frankfurt before in TAR 9, when they could've easily taken a flight to Munich or Stuttgart (if they were desperate for the product placement).
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Neobie on March 08, 2010, 03:12:21 PM
I think customs are our most likely reason. Routing through a particular city always, if I remember correctly, happens when the city is not the primary air hub of the country, or sometimes part of the country.

Luke, do you know the reason why production forced you through Guangzhou while flying from Bangkok to Guilin? I'm pretty sure it's the same case happening here.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: gingerman28 on March 08, 2010, 03:20:35 PM
With all the pre-program publicity and speculation about what early Beatle-related tasks the teams were supposed to perform in Hamburg, we sure got shortchanged last night.  I have a feeling that whatever task was related to the Beatles after they arrived at Beatleplatz and before they arrived at the pit stop in the club the Beatles first perfomed in it was edited out. When each team was reading their clue after downing the boot of bear their reading was abruptly cut off after "proceed to Beatleplatz."  They never mentioned what they were to do after arriving at Beatleplatz and they never mentioned "pit stop".  Too bad all this ended up on the cutting room floor after such anticipation of seeing more of the Beatle-related locations in Hamburg.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 08, 2010, 06:27:54 PM
With all the pre-program publicity and speculation about what early Beatle-related tasks the teams were supposed to perform in Hamburg, we sure got shortchanged last night.  I have a feeling that whatever task was related to the Beatles after they arrived at Beatleplatz and before they arrived at the pit stop in the club the Beatles first perfomed in it was edited out. When each team was reading their clue after downing the boot of bear their reading was abruptly cut off after "proceed to Beatleplatz."  They never mentioned what they were to do after arriving at Beatleplatz and they never mentioned "pit stop".  Too bad all this ended up on the cutting room floor after such anticipation of seeing more of the Beatle-related locations in Hamburg.

After seeing the episode, I can see why they didn't play up the Beatles aspect. It probably sounded like a good idea, but no doubt they decided during editing that the other tasks were more entertaining, so the Beatles task (whatever it was) was cut out and left in the cutting room scrap heap. Certainly we have sleuthed out a number of other times when tasks were undertaken and then later left out. This is yet another case. Perhaps it was just the reality of seeing teams wandering past strip clubs over and over that made them decide to remove it rather than deal with complaints by the easily offended.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Slowhatch on March 09, 2010, 09:19:38 AM
The chart (http://homepage.mac.com/yakc/tv/tar16.html#leg4) for the episode is up. The detective's big boost was winding up on the same flight as the cowboys, but that wasn't explained in the show.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 09, 2010, 10:59:52 AM
I don't know why I notice these things but I do...

I think the reason we don't see more Beatles stuff is due to the royalties and creative and copyright fees tptb would have to pay.
It was at least in their minds - as we can see from the failed attempt to hide the Beatles logo on the faux Beatles drum and that they weren't actually playing a Beatles tune

When Mike and Louie check in you can see the Beatles logo, but when Phil is doing his standups its not there. Magic!
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: mariamindy on March 09, 2010, 01:05:27 PM
I don't know why I notice these things but I do...

I think the reason we don't see more Beatles stuff is due to the royalties and creative and copyright fees tptb would have to pay.
It was at least in their minds - as we can see from the failed attempt to hide the Beatles logo on the faux Beatles drum and that they weren't actually playing a Beatles tune

When Mike and Louie check in you can see the Beatles logo, but when Phil is doing his standups its not there. Magic!


WOW... not THAT'S observation!!!
Can you teach me?!?!?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 09, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
What I was really looking for was what time Mike and Louie checked into the pitstop.
The only racer who is wearing a usable watch this season is Cord. Looks like our loveable cowboys finished drinking their beer around 10:20, which seems a little early, no?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: sses on March 09, 2010, 04:27:30 PM
Ok ... I was watching the show again .. and if you see when Jet and Cord are checking in at the mat ... there is a round clock .. it is black. Of course I can not zoom in .. someone that knows how might what to look at that.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 10, 2010, 07:42:05 AM
Ok ... I was watching the show again .. and if you see when Jet and Cord are checking in at the mat ... there is a round clock .. it is black. Of course I can not zoom in .. someone that knows how might what to look at that.
:waves: The "black clock" on the wall is what us old fellers call a "record album". It is made of vinyl. Before the interweb tubes and CDs and even 8 track tapes they were used to distribute music. You put the album on a turntable, the turntable spun at 33.333 revolutions per second :ascared minute, then you gently put a needle in the groove. Music and dancing ensued.  :colors
They were very popular around the same time as the Beatles. As was I.
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: georgiapeach on March 10, 2010, 05:11:04 PM
Ok ... I was watching the show again .. and if you see when Jet and Cord are checking in at the mat ... there is a round clock .. it is black. Of course I can not zoom in .. someone that knows how might what to look at that.
:waves: The "black clock" on the wall is what us old fellers call a "record album". It is made of vinyl. Before the interweb tubes and CDs and even 8 track tapes they were used to distribute music. You put the album on a turntable, the turntable spun at 33.333 revolutions per second :ascared minute, then you gently put a needle in the groove. Music and dancing ensued.  :colors
They were very popular around the same time as the Beatles. As was I.

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Love you NOW wp!! :kissy:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Plaidmoon on March 10, 2010, 05:32:12 PM
It's kind of weird to have all the Beatles related messages on this page and banner ads for The Who's Greatest Hits.  :snicker:

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 10, 2010, 06:54:55 PM
:waves: The "black clock" on the wall is what us old fellers call a "record album". It is made of vinyl. Before the interweb tubes and CDs and even 8 track tapes they were used to distribute music. You put the album on a turntable, the turntable spun at 33.333 revolutions per second :ascared minute, then you gently put a needle in the groove. Music and dancing ensued.  :colors
They were very popular around the same time as the Beatles. As was I.

So what time did it show?
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Cocoa on March 10, 2010, 10:50:28 PM
:waves: The "black clock" on the wall is what us old fellers call a "record album". It is made of vinyl. Before the interweb tubes and CDs and even 8 track tapes they were used to distribute music. You put the album on a turntable, the turntable spun at 33.333 revolutions per second :ascared minute, then you gently put a needle in the groove. Music and dancing ensued.  :colors
They were very popular around the same time as the Beatles. As was I.

So what time did it show?

:groan: :groan: :meow:

:lol3:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: Hooky on March 11, 2010, 12:40:29 AM
:waves: The "black clock" on the wall is what us old fellers call a "record album". It is made of vinyl. Before the interweb tubes and CDs and even 8 track tapes they were used to distribute music. You put the album on a turntable, the turntable spun at 33.333 revolutions per second :ascared minute, then you gently put a needle in the groove. Music and dancing ensued.  :colors
They were very popular around the same time as the Beatles. As was I.

So what time did it show?

Was that meant to be a joke or are you serious? :funny:
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: redskevin88 on March 11, 2010, 05:54:55 AM
:waves: The "black clock" on the wall is what us old fellers call a "record album". It is made of vinyl. Before the interweb tubes and CDs and even 8 track tapes they were used to distribute music. You put the album on a turntable, the turntable spun at 33.333 revolutions per second :ascared minute, then you gently put a needle in the groove. Music and dancing ensued.  :colors
They were very popular around the same time as the Beatles. As was I.

So what time did it show?

Was that meant to be a joke or are you serious? :funny:

Joking
Title: Re: TAR16 - EP4: "We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt" (Germany)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on March 11, 2010, 08:48:22 AM
:waves: The "black clock" on the wall is what us old fellers call a "record album". It is made of vinyl. Before the interweb tubes and CDs and even 8 track tapes they were used to distribute music. You put the album on a turntable, the turntable spun at 33.333 revolutions per second :ascared minute, then you gently put a needle in the groove. Music and dancing ensued.  :colors
They were very popular around the same time as the Beatles. As was I.

So what time did it show?
It said "Any Time At All!".  :lol3: