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Title: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on November 26, 2009, 11:10:14 PM
updating in progress, I'll give a heads up when completed



special thanks to woden's and thanks to Caelestor as well (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21194.0.html) timeline :


TEAM SPOILER SUMMARY  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21187.0.html)
Probable Bottom 5
Jodi & Shannon (Possibly eliminated in Puerto Varas (Leg 2))
Jeff & Jordan (Photographed with Elimination Station teams; among first 5-6 teams eliminated)   
Adrian & Dana (Photographed with Elimination Station teams; among first 5-6 teams eliminated)
Monique & Shawne (Photographed with Elimination Station teams; among first 5-6 teams eliminated)
Joseph & Heidi (Photographed with Elimination Station teams; among first 5-6 teams eliminated)

Probable Top 6
Carol & Brandy (Spotted in Singapore)  Final 6
Steve & Allie (Decoys Shanghai)  Final 6
Mike & Louie (Decoys leg 2 Shanghai)  Final 4
Jet & Cord (Spotted en route to USA)  Final 3
Brent & Caitlin(Spotted en route to USA)  Final 3
Dan & Jordan (Spotted en route to USA)  Final 3


ROUTE SUMMARY
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EP01: Los Angeles, CA (USA) to Valparaiso, Chile (via Santiago)

Air Date: FEB 14

Film Date: NOV 28-29

Route:
START:  Vista Hermosa (http://www.lamountains.com/parks.asp?parkid=672) park.
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted at/near downtown Mariott; filming permit to close 2nd St Tunnel between Hill and Figueroa

ROUTE INFO: Find your own way to LAX?
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted near highway (report of someone refusing team a ride), at Union Station

Tweets/Twitter/Facebook:11/28/09


*"Looking outside my window at the hotel and I think I just saw "the amazing race" team just run across the entrance to the freeway. Random."
*"The amazing race is at our hotel? So are the USC football, USC basketball, and UCLA mens waterpolo teams. This place is rockin."
*Just watched start of next "Amazing Race" - should air early next year on CBS. Soooo cool!
RE: *AdamKossoff -about an hour ago near the downtown los angeles marriot. not sure where they were heading
*JimmyHodson: Dropping my nephews off at LAX where they're shooting The Amazing Race. Hard enough to get through security without cameras in our faces!
* shloky (http://twitter.com/Shloky): LOL. In the security line at LAX with the entire cast from the new Amazing Race.
*shloky: amazing race _ they're headed to Chile. both santiago and wolf castle. theres a bus involved
*shloky: amazing race teams : big guys, 1 w/ a man fu beard. also a tall guy w/ a short blonde. also a grandma w/ a 20 something brunette
*shloky: amazing race didnt see twins or asians. theyre going to chile by way of dwf or dulles or stl. gate is stacked
* amyecrawford: Camera situation in LAX, appears a couple of reality show teams from mayb Amazing Race r trying 2 make wating 4 a flight appear interesting
*amyecrawford: Teams were identical twins, wearing team colors, backpacking gear.. After engaging in some faux-competitive conversation they flew to Dallas
*amazing race _ they're headed to Chile. both santiago and wolf castle. theres a bus involved
*In LAX waiting for the flight to Texas and the Amazing Race is being filmed right next to my gate. Ah 30 min in LA....
*suerosenbaum: At LAX and #ikarl is asked to help a new team for the next season of amazing race (we guessed) to find Castile Wolf in Chile watch for him
*DanielleVarey:    No flight number. I did go up and talk to Jeff. Saw where they were sitting in airport. Going to either Chicago/Boston.
*DanielleVarey (https://twitter.com/DanielleVarey):   Of course I'm not 100% sure where they flew to. I just know the gate they went and sat down next to which said Chicago/Boston
*DanielleVarey :The gate they were by in the picture was not the gate they went and sat next to. They were checking departure boards there. So who knows
*ob-la-di-ob-la-da --John Joo said:Got stopped by the Amazing Race crew in downtown LA and signed a release form. Wonder if I'm gonna be on it. Look for the dude in a big white SUV that refuses to give a couple of ladies a ride. Hahaha.

*Slowhatch: I'm not sure what the caption of this photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/taegencarter/4220686985/) means: the photo seems to have been created today (27 Dec), and he might be referring to a former racer. Disney Concert Hall

more photos ca be found in the contestant thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21187.0.html)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_102_3767.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/102_3767.jpg) photo courtesy of lindaaries11 (http://picasaweb.google.com/lindaaries11/HollandAmericaOosterdam2009#5413069257062015954)
*Ooh- cool, it's the 'Amazing Race' filming in the Union Station
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_RFF-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/RFF-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_tar16.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar16.jpg) photos by Chateau d if

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_45960420.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/45960420.jpg) photo courtesy of DanielleVarey (http://twitter.com/DanielleVarey)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_untitled-3.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/untitled-3.jpg) photo courtesy of DanielleVarey  (http://twitter.com/DanielleVarey)



Tweets/Twitter/Facebook: 11/29-30/09

*Just got asked for directions from a couple named Jordan & Jeff on the Amazing Race. NBD...
*They wore baby blue and black and no they didn't ask how to get to a castle just to where a lot of taxis are.
*mr_fuenzalida: I just watched 3 teams of the new season of The amazing race! They were super lost! Lol (He is from Rgua-Valpo-Rgua | Chile)
*mr_fuenzalida:
I just noticed that @TeamJEJO was one of the teams I saw yesterday... But they were wearing a red shirt.
*mr_fuenzalida@Savannahsmum I'm sorry but aftar that I had to go... ALSO! They had problems with their tickets... Greetings from Chile!
*"At the Turbus Terminal...some cameras are following a couple...seems like The Amazing Race"  (http://twitter.com/LoreLesLado)
*"And in the subway, a guy pushes a lady who won't let him on and the lady hits him. Wow!" (http://twitter.com/LoreLesLado)
RE: Dan/cdfe88: Hey guys, I talked with LoreLesLado about the couple at the Metro station and she said they were a blonde girl and a guy with long black hair
Ryan83:TheBlotSays: Just found out the cast of the Amazing Race was on my friend's flight to Chile last weekend. Not sure if its the current cast or next season
RE:response: @walkingpneumoni Not sure, sorry! The flight was last Sat. He originated out of Chicago, but its very likely he stopped in Miami.

Blog find

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Valparaiso
The Amazing Race came to town - we spent a whole lunchtime in a waiting for the couples to come running by chased by their out of breath cameraman and soundman. It was funny (in a slightly cruel way) to see the teams that went down streets that none of the others had chosen. Losers. How we laughed as we sipped our beers.
woden: Looks like Cardonal Market (http://natalislangvalpo.blogspot.com/).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_untitled.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/untitled.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/2.jpg)


Blog find:


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_rff-0000.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0000.jpg) Phil filming in Valparaiso, Chile
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_rff-0003.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0003.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_rff-0001.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0001.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_rff-0002.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0002.jpg) challenge set up, teams had to paint the  white portions of the walls

Slowhatch:  I found a picture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/veganstraightedge/3377808571/) of the market; the sign reads Templeman, one of the main drags of Old Town. The cross-street? Maybe...San Enrique.
*OK, I think I've got it. Enlarge the pictures here (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/9762866) and here (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/27789288); it's the building behind San Luis Gonazga church at the top of Cerro Alegre. The cross street is Galos.

Blog find:

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The Amazing race was being filmed whie wer were in town, and Elise had the pleasure of seeing many moronic Americans carrying paint tins up the hills. We were chased away every time we went for our cameras, so you`ll have to watch all of season 27 to check the truthfulness of this.


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EP02: Valparaiso, Chile to Puerto Varas, Chile (via Santiago)

Air Date: FEB 21

Film Date: NOV 30-DEC 1

Route:
ROUTE INFO: Travel by bus to Santiago, Chile and on to Puerto Varas
EVIDENCE: Cameras spotted in Turbus terminal (most likely in Santiago) on 11/30, teams photographed in Puerto Varas near Puerto Montt, teams likely spotted on bus near Osorno

OTHER POTENTIAL LOCATIONS: Lakes Region, Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavista
EVIDENCE: Chilean article detailing route, hiring of Lakes Region expert Maria Elena Bartsch

Article: (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.lacuencadellago.cl/web/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_k2%26view%3Ditem%26id%3D36:the-amazing-race-en-pto-varas-el-programa-emitido-por-cbs-realiz%25C3%25B3-parte-de-su-itinerario-en-la-zona-lacustre%26Itemid%3D77&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.cronicalibre.cl/index.php/locales/2234-programa-televisivo-internacional-qthe-amazing-raceq-grabo-capitulos-en-puerto-varas-y-zonas-cercanas%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7DKUS_en&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1)
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The Amazing Race in Puerto Varas, the broadcast by CBS conducted part of their itinerary in the lake district
Despite the secrecy with which they tried to carry out the recordings of “The Amazing Race” broadcast on CBS managed to captures some images of the alleged couple eliminated from this competition.
The tests of this competition that were carried out in the lacustrine zone of Port Twigs, had like places the localities of Petrohué, Island Margarita and Onces Bellavistas, to finalize the recordings in the traditional grotto of Port Twigs. Evidence of this competition that took pleases in the lake district of Port Twigs, had the locations of sites Petrohué, Margarita Island and Onces Bellavista, to finish the recordings in the traditional grotto of Port Twigs.
Separate point deserves the fact that during the recording of the series transmitted through cable, was very difficult to catch images because the attitude of the production was to intimidate the press sending to different people to cover and to follow to that walked with camera although the recordings were carried out in a public place. Point deserves the fact that during the recording of to number transmitted through the cable, it was very difficult to captures images because the attitude of the production was to intimidate the press by sending different people to to cover and follow the One who walked with double bed although the recordings were carried out in a public pleases. In quite hostile form one even indicated the people to him who were a deprived recording, the one that paradoxicalally was made in a public place. Even in a fairly hostile people told him that it was to private recording, which ironically took pleases in a public pleases.
This winning program of 8 prizes Emmy, lead by Phil Keoghan consists of a species of competition reality, in where they are eliminated the pairs (11) as trascurre the competition. This program won 8 Emmy Awards, hosted by Phil Keoghan is to sort of reality competition, where couples plows eliminated (11) ace competition elapses.
  

PIT STOP: Grotto of Lourdes, Puerto Varas
EVIDENCE: Teams photographed at pit stop (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lacuencadellago.cl%2Fweb%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_k2%26view%3Ditem%26id%3D36%3Athe-amazing-race-en-pto-varas-el-programa-emitido-por-cbs-realiz%25C3%25B3-parte-de-su-itinerario-en-la-zona-lacustre%26Itemid%3D77)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_rff-0027.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0027.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_rff-0028.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0028.jpg)


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EP03: Puerto Varas, Chile to Bariloche, Argentina

Air Date: FEB 28

Film Date: DEC 2-3

Route:
ROUTE INFO: Travel to Bariloche, Argentina
EVIDENCE: Chilean article

POSSIBLE LOCATIONS: Limay River/Estancia Fortín Chacabuco
EVIDENCE: Bariloche article (http://www.anbariloche.com.ar/noticia.php?nota=11904)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_rio-limay-foto1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rio-limay-foto1.jpg)

Article: (http://www.anbariloche.com.ar/noticia.php?nota=11904)

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The Amazing Race recorded in Bariloche
 “the city returns to be mega scene productions for international television”, stood out from the EMPROTUR. The Amazing Race recorded one of the stages in San Carlos de Bariloche, before continuing in Germany.
With a hearing considered of more than one hundred twenty million viewers, the program returns to put to the city like mega scene productions for signal CBS. Of an enormous promotional value the recording included leases on Rio Limay and the stay Chacabuco Bunker. It is the second time in four years that the producers of the greater program of competitions in format reality of the world, elije to Bariloche like scene for its productions.
The Amazing Race (the Great Race) is a Reality Show, winning manifold of the Emmy, and normally it is emitted in episodes of one hour, in which equipment of two or four members runs around the world in competition against other equipment. The program of the CBS and emitted by AXN in Latin America has been to the air from year 2001 and recently thirteenth season has finished his. The show is lead by the Neozelandés Phil Keoghan and was created by Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster. Excellent Program of Reality has already been awarded with the Emmy of the Primetime (the hour strip with greater hearing) in the category “/Competition” every year since the category was created in 2003 to date.
 


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EP04: Bariloche, Argentina to Liverpool, England or Hamburg, Germany



EVIDENCE: Teams retrace the early days of the Beatles (CBS Press Release)

Air Date: MAR 7

Film Date: DEC 4-5/6

Route: UNKNOWN

Safe From Elimination at End of Episode:
Dan & Jordan: Spotted en route to Penang, Malaysia
Steve & Allie: Spotted in Penang, possibly spotted in Singapore
Mike & Louie: Spotted in Singapore
Carol & Brandy: Spotted in Singapore
Brent & Caitlin: Possibly spotted in Singapore/San Francisco
Jet & Cord: Possibly spotted in San Francisco

Possibly Eliminated:
Jeff & Jordan?
Adrian & Dana?
Monique & Shawne?
Joseph & Heidi?

EP05-EP06?: England/Germany to France

EVIDENCE: World War I reenactment in France. (CBS PRESS RELEASE)

POSSIBLE LOCATION: Somewhere around Lille

Air Dates: MAR 21/28?

Film Dates: DEC 7-11?

Possibly Eliminated:
Jeff & Jordan eliminated at/before this point (spotted in Puerto Vallarta around 12/9)  
Adrian & Dana eliminated at/before this point (spotted in Puerto Vallarta around 12/9)
Monique & Shawne eliminated at/before this point (photographed with other Elimination Station teams at SFO 12/19)
Joseph & Heidi eliminated at/before this point (photographed with other Elimination Station teams at SFO 12/19)


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EP07: France to Seychelles

EVIDENCE: Confirmed by CBS Press Release.

Air Date: APR 4?

Film Date: DEC 12-13?

Route: UNKNOWN

Safe From Elimination at End of Episode:
Dan & Jordan: Spotted en route to Penang, Malaysia
Steve & Allie: Spotted in Penang, possibly spotted in Singapore
Mike & Louie: Spotted in Singapore
Carol & Brandy: Spotted in Singapore
Brent & Caitlin: Possibly spotted in Singapore/San Francisco
Jet & Cord: Possibly spotted in San Francisco

Note: Hard to tell difference between racers and decoys from this episode on

Possibly Eliminated: UNKNOWN



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EP08: Seychelles to Penang, Malaysia



EVIDENCE: Phil likely spotted in Penang International Airport McDonald’s (departure area) on December 15 (apx 5:45pm); Frat team spotted on flight from Kuala Lumpur to Penang (MH1138)

Air Date: APR 4

Film Date: DEC 14-15?

Route:
ROUTE INFO: Find Kuan Yin Teng Temple?
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted at Kek Lok Si Temple (the wrong location) around 11am, possibly looking for Kuan Yin Teng (Mike & Louie possibly first team to arrive at Kek Lok Si, then Dan & Jordan, then “Father/Daughter” team)

Safe From Elimination at End of Episode:
Brent & Caitlin?: Possibly spotted in Singapore/San Francisco
Jet & Cord?: Possibly spotted in San Francisco

Possibly Eliminated:
Dan & Jordan?: As of now, not spotted after this leg

Elimination Status Unknown:
Mike & Louie: Spotted in Singapore (but may be decoys)
Carol & Brandy: Spotted in Singapore (but may be decoys)
Steve & Allie: Possibly spotted in Singapore (but may be decoys)


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EP09: Penang, Malaysia to Singapore

EVIDENCE: Phil likely spotted in Penang International Airport McDonald’s (departure area) on December 15 (apx 5:45pm); Frat team possibly spotted on flight from Kuala Lumpur to Penang (MH1138)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_rff-0029-2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff-0029-2.jpg) drydenfire (http://twitpic.com/th6k2)
Air Date: APR 11?

Film Date: DEC 14-15?

Route:
ROUTE INFO: Find Kuan Yin Teng Temple? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21253.msg505748.html#msg505748)
EVIDENCE: Teams spotted at Kek Lok Si Temple (the wrong location) around 11am, possibly looking for Kuan Yin Teng (Mike & Louie possibly first team to arrive at Kek Lok Si, then Dan & Jordan, then “Father/Daughter” team)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_TAR16Penangfather-daughterteam1wmd.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16Penangfather-daughterteam1wmd.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_TAR16Penangfather-daughterteam2lgwm.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16Penangfather-daughterteam2lgwm.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_rff-0010.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff-0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_rff-0012.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff-0012.jpg)

Safe From Elimination at End of Episode:
Mike & Louie: Spotted in Singapore
Brent & Caitlin?: Possibly spotted in Singapore/San Francisco
Carol & Brandy?: Possibly spotted in Singapore
Jet & Cord?: Possibly spotted in San Francisco

Possibly Eliminated:
Dan & Jordan?: As of now, not spotted after this leg
Steve & Allie: As of now, not spotted after this leg


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EP10?: Penang, Malaysia to Singapore

Air Date: APR 18?

Film Date: DEC 16

Route:

ROUTE INFO: Find ice cream vendor at corner of Waterloo and Bencoolen Link
DETOUR?: Sell ice cream
EVIDENCE: Photo of vendor with clue in hand/flags on cart being filmed, Carol & Brandy (wearing gray) spotted selling ice cream (around 11am)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_x2_6368ff.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/x2_6368ff.jpg)
ROUTE INFO: Go to Sentosa (Mega-Zip)/Singapore Flyer
EVIDENCE: “Young F/F team” possibly spotted with helicopter on top of Singapore Flyer (Flyer closed to public until 12:30pm); “two big guys in blue and a blonde M/brunette F couple” possibly spotted at Sentosa (close to Subway at cable car arrival plaza); Mike/Louie photographed at Island Life shop in Sentosa; teams spotted at Mega-Zip at Sentosa

ROUTE INFO: Find Marina Barrage
EVIDENCE: Camera crew/team spotted between 10am and 1pm on 12/16 at marina; again at about 1:30pm (guys in blue, later a couple in red)

Safe From Elimination at End of Episode:
Brent & Caitlin?: Possibly spotted in Singapore/San Francisco
Jet & Cord?: Possibly spotted in San Francisco

Possibly Eliminated:
Mike & Louie (Eliminated before final leg)

Tweets/ Blogs/ Etc 12/16

*Hellataz :
i just saw the amazing race cluebox at bukit batok, between bukit batok and jurong east, so might be wondering if the new season of amazing race 16 might be stopping in singapore for race
Source:  (http://forums.sgclub.com/singapore/amazing_race_singapore_230559.html)
ltvols:
*stephanietang  (http://tweetphoto.com/6514943)Spotted AmaZing race crew at s'pore!! Bugis near temple.
ltvols
*Stephanie Tang - the girl that captured the photo of the ice cream truck - tweeted that the pic was taken about 12:00 noon but that she didn't see any participants.  Also confirmed it was TAR USA
heyhay28:
The girl who saw the Set up of the Ice Cream Cart in Singapore yesterday just tweeted this back to me
*@heyhay28 hey there its at SINGAPORE. at Bugis. Near a very popular temple. didnt get to see any participants yet. USA Version.
Source (http://twitter.com/stephanietang)
Sailing:
*The Amazing Race 16 in Singapore
Filming of the new season of The Amazing Race had been spotted in SG! at the flyer and in Bugis - read it in the papers yesterday and my mum actually saw one team doing the challenge in Bugis that day...

^^^
peach: Had a lovely followup note:
*i'm afraid she didn't take any pictures, cause she had no idea it's the AMAZING RACE till she saw the picture in the newspaper report! i so wanted to be there too!
well, according to her, there were 2 females, should be wearing grey though she wasn't really sure now. They were selling ice cream and it was about 11+ am. =)
peach:
Photo matching completed!! It is our short haired ladies in camo!!
*anyway, yup my mum said it's the first team -  the team in grey/black. =)

ob-la-di-ob-la-da
one more Facebook post, from someone in Singapore 2 hours ago (5:30am, Singapore time):
*Thank you guys.... check out the AMAZING RACE ASIA...... Saw the filming at Singapore flyer & Sentosa. Due the the show, they close the flyer from public until 12.30pm, we were way too early...end up took the flyer in the evening. A great trip..
Sailing:
*And a tweet to go along with it:
BethRuh: Sighted: People walking outside on TOP of the Singapore Flyer. Helicopter filming...I'll give you one guess....
Hellataz
I had seen this post on FB earlier but i think i goes along with the race you guys are talking about:
*Mint Lee Thank you guys.... check out the AMAZING RACE ASIA...... Saw the filming at Singapore flyer & Sentosa. Due the the show, they close the flyer from public until 12.30pm, we were way too early...end up took the flyer in the evening. A great trip..
Sailing:
And a tweet to go along with it:
BethRuh: Sighted: People walking outside on TOP of the Singapore Flyer. Helicopter filming...I'll give you one guess....
peach:
Okay, incoming:
From one of the Sentosa posters:
*I did not realise that they were filming the amazing race until the 2nd sighting, therfore no pictures were taken.
I was at the singapore flyer at about 11am, 16 dec 2009, when i saw the 1st group, male/female team(young couple, long hair girl dressed in blue).
As the flyer was closed for shooting until 12.30pm, my family and i proceeded to sentosa's underwater world, where we spotted the 2nd group, male/male group (middle aged man, dressed in blue too.) wondering around Rasa Sentosa Hotel car park at abt 1pm, same day.

Natalie Blog:
Found a girl that saw amazing race filming at the megazip/Sentosa (http://www.sentosa.com.sg/explore_sentosa/attractions/mega_zip.html).
*Natalie: okay i think.. there's this two guys with cowboy hats? n a couple team?(indians?) didnt hang around there very long... sorry!
Blog (http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/175e8/84b/4/?o=2):

*While I would consider riding the Singapore Flyer, the world's tallest Ferris Wheel, to be one of the must-dos in Singapore, the night we went it was amazingly uncrowded -- in fact, we came very close to getting a tube of our own. My friends and I got there around 6:30, an arrival perfectly timed for sunset, which happens quickly this close to the equator. We navigated the maze of shops and ramps to the entrance and we hopped onto the slow-moving wheel without it even stopping. Soon we were out of the housing and getting great views of Singapore and beyond. Het, we could even see Malaysia and Indonesia -- a tri-nation view! We got great looks at the skyline and harbor as the sun dropped behind the tall buildings. We got a great perspective on the ongoing construction of the world's largest casino complex and on Singapore's floating soccer field. Additionally, we could see an unending line of ships at anchor, waiting for their turn to enter busy Singapore Harbor. All in all, the ride took just a hair over 30 minutes and regaled us the entire time, all for about $20.
If we had wanted to splurge, for $199 we could have gotten a tube that came with a full-service dinner on nice linens and fine china, with champagne. In fact, n the tube behind us, we could see two young girls were being filmed doing just that. Since we envisioned that the dinner would be an occassion for romance and dinner, and the girls were rather shoddily-dressed, we were trying to come up with scenarios for what was going on. Was it a reality TV show? It turns out we were close -- a Hong Kong Travel show was filming its Singapore adventure

ams06
*Found this blurb on a blog. Not sure if it helps. Maybe it will help put the timeline together.
Lunch at Subway! And guess what? We saw teams of Amazing race running around Sentosa. That was so cool! Watch out for the next season... Sentosa might be the pit stop for a leg of the race!
Source
 (http://nicholaswashere.blogspot.com/2009/12/sentosa-ftw.html)
^^^
woden:
A follow up on his blog (http://nicholaswashere.blogspot.com/2009/12/sentosa-ftw.html):
*Well, the first team I saw were two big guys wearing blue and the second team were a couple. The male is blonde-haired and the female is a brunette.
ams06:
*We had an awesome picnic at marina barrage today! Even though we didn’t get to rest our bums on the grass pasture at level 2 cos there is some event (we think it is amazing race asia, cos we saw some angmoh filming crew and two backpackers running here and there) and we had to wake up at 7-ish am; IT WAS WORTH IT! ((:
Source (http://myirandom.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/www-eatwithcot-com-sgpicnic)
^^^
* follow up
Amazing Race TAR 16
by Yirene
I need to exclaim first, I was so shocked when I saw my blog readership yesterday and then I realised it was because I merely mentioned about amazing race in one of my sentences. So to all the amazing race fans out there…
Ok guys, I hoped I got this right. I just received a FB message from this nice lady call Peach and she said that you guys want to know more about the race in Singapore. Honestly, I am not very sure whether the people I saw were from Amazing Race but just in case they were, let me fill you in with some details.
WHO: 2 males in blue shirts and blue backpacks
WHERE: Marina Barrage
WHEN: 16 December, about 130pm or so.
My friend, Fiona also mentioned that she saw another couple in red running in some time after.
That’s about all that I know! Yeap, and I am terribly sorry cos’ I was more interested in the filming crew than the contestants themselves! I don’t know why! HAHA. But I’ve attached some pictures, so take a look if you are interested! (:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_TAR16teaminSingaporelg2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/TAR16teaminSingaporelg2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_TAR16teaminSingaporelg1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/TAR16teaminSingaporelg1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_TAR16crewinSingaporelg.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/TAR16crewinSingaporelg.jpg)


Alright, this article was taken from "THE NEW PAPER" (Singapore's "alternative" newspaper) and the issue is dated Friday, 18th December 2009. Just a quick heads up before I dive in into the article proper, there really isn't much new information inside the article and it seemed like the person who wrote it took most of it directly off RFF, in fact.  :groan: But nonetheless, I'm posting it up here hoping it would be of some help to the investigation here.



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_P181209_1454.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/P181209_1454.jpg)

so since i can't really get a proper clear picture, i'll just type it out and highlight (in bold) the more-interesting/important points within

Is Amazing Race back in S'pore?  (http://a1preview.asia1.com.sg:90/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=30881f5db71a5210VgnVCM100000430a0a0aRCRD&vgnextchannel=f6dbadbd2b722110VgnVCM100000bd0a0a0aRCRD)  
Film crew spotted at S'pore Flyer and Bugis

IS THE Amazing Race making a pitstop in Singapore again?
 
A US film crew was spotted at the Singapore Flyer and Bugis on Wednesday. And it looked like they were laying the groundwork and preparing for the impending arrival of contestants as the signature red and yellow striped envelope which participants need to find was seen by someone who posted it on the Net.
But contestants were nowhere to be seen.
Now into its 16th instalment, the US reality TV game show first came to our shores in 2002 during its third season.
According to Ms Nicole Lee, 30, who works at Singapore Flyer's Japanese restaurant Hibiki, the tourist attraction was strangely quiet on Wednesday morning. Curious, Ms Lee asked the receptionist, who confirmed that The Amazing Race had indeed been filming there in the morning.
She told The New Paper: "When I arrived for work at about 11:30am, I saw a helicopter hovering above us, which is unusual."
Singapore Flyer's marketing communications manager June Leong confirmed that it had been hired for filming a commercial TV production", but did not specify which one.

Later that afternoon, the crew moved on to Bugis where they were seen filming with an ice-cream street vendor.
Miss Stephanie Tang was on the way back to her office at Parkview Square after lunch at Albert Centre when she spotted them.
Being a fan of the series, Miss Tang immediately recognised the signature red and yellow stripped envelope. So she snapped a photo and posted it on Twitter.
The 23-year-old marketing communications executive told The New Paper: "They were at The Bencoolen at about 1pm.
"The film crew asked an ice-cream vendor to hold on to a red and yellow envelope. I didn't spot any contestants around."
Back in 2002, we saw The Amazing Race teams wandering through the National Orchid Garden, swimming across a manatee enclosure at the Singapore Zoo and getting wet in Suntec City's Fountain of Wealth. They also navigated maze-like HDB corridors in Choa Chu Kang, after which actor Gurmit Singh - playing Phua Chu Kang - handed them clues.
Finally, actress and former Miss Singapore Universe Jaime Teo greeted them at the Mount Faber pitstop.
As for this season, it seems filming of the race started at the Los Angeles International Airport. While details have not been released, Entertainment Weekly reported that rumoured contestants Jordan Lloyd and her boyfriend Jeff Schroeder were spotted at the airport in competition attire late last month.
Lloyd is US reality TV show Big Brother 11's winner and Schroeder was a fellow participant.
The film crew and contestants have also been spotted in South America's Puerto Varas and San Carlos de Bariloche, according to Spanish news websites.


Plaidmoon:
*Good work, Dragoondaniel! I saw a reference to a story being in TNP which I was guessing was The New Paper but I couldn't find it on their web site.
I did find this thread at  sgforums.com  (http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/385258?page=1).
It has a few tidbits and bears watching.
I was at T3 yesterday night at this breadshop nxt to where the bus "stop" is, then there was this AETOS security guard, and two ang moh pple surfing the free internet on the com at that bread shop(forgot the name)...
so weird, initially i tot A Race, but as i dun watch the show i dunnoe the contestons~

*and
at b.batok. blk 334 under the void deck there got mama shop there will be the pit stop.
There's also some speculation about meeting "PCK" or "LKY and familee" or "the prata man". I assume these are local celebrities and are pure speculation.


*There are reports of the production crew and contestants being sighted around Bukit Batok/Jurong, Bugis, Marina Barrage, Singapore Flyer and Sentosa a couple of days back.
 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_15566_238111751997_663081997_470078.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/15566_238111751997_663081997_470078.jpg) Photo by Michael Tan
:barline

:barline

EP11?: Singapore to Shanghai, China


Shanghai Spoilers Start here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21253.550.html)

EVIDENCE: Crews spotted on Nanjing Road, crew spotted returning to SFO from Shanghai

Air Date: APR 25?

Film Date: DEC 17-18

Route: UNKNOWN

Safe From Elimination at End of Episode:
Brent & Caitlin?: Possibly spotted in San Francisco
Jet & Cord?: Possibly spotted in San Francisco

Possibly Eliminated: UNKNOWN
Mike & Louie (Eliminated before final leg)


:barline

EP12?: Shanghai, China to San Francisco, CA (USA)

Air Date: MAY 2?

Film Date: DEC 18-20

Route:

ROUTE INFO: Find Yoda at Letterman Digital Arts Center, something involving Storm Troopers (and possibly George Lucas)
EVIDENCE: Tweet, other sources

ROUTE INFO: Find and climb Coit Tower
EVIDENCE: Team spotted, confirmation of crew dismantling equipment

OTHER POSSIBLE LOCATIONS: Hunter’s Point, Great American Music Hall
EVIDENCE: Tweets, other sources, Jet & Cord spotted near Great American Music Hall looking for cab (on O’Farrell and Geary streets)

OTHER POSSIBLE TASKS:
ROUTE INFO: Carry large locked trunk to…?
EVIDENCE: Probable decoy team (Mike & Louie) spotted with large trunk at California and Larkin streets (around noon)

Final 3 Teams:
Brent/Caitlin?: Brown hair male/blonde female spotted at Coit Tower (in red)
Jet & Cord?: Male team spotted carrying trunk, “cowboys” reported twice

Winners: UNKNOWN


Tweets/etc 12/20/09

heyhay28:
*Just went through customs on San Francisco, standing in line with two guys from Amazing Race and their camera crew.    
source (http://twitter.com/jenbakerbrown)

*Storm Troopers are escorting 'Amazing Race' contestants through the Letterman Digital Arts Center
source (http://twitter.com/dlybeck)
*Frantic couples with backbacks running thru SFO followed by film crew. Great Race contestants?    about 2 hours ago   from TweetDeck  
source (http://twitter.com/cupcakefaerie)
 *joelwhitaker Amazing Race contestants just completed near-final stage by rappelling up San Francisco's Coit Tower!
*joelwhitaker@heyhay28 @futureracer15 The Amazing Race contestants scaled the tower then hopped in a SF cab, but I didn't see which team it was.
source (http://twitter.com/joelwhitaker)

Hellataz:
From FB:
*Andrew Susanto I think I just saw 2 of the contestants for the next season of amazing race, they were wearing cowboy hats, running around trying to find taxi, with 2 cameramen following them!

peony:
*I saw what I think was an AR crew filming just now (noon PST) on California Street in San Francisco. Was nearly toppled by a man running with a handheld camera. He stopped at California and Larkin to capture the image of two men (I think) walking with a large locked trunk. They were walking towards Polk Street. May investigate further while I buy a pizza slice.
source (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3190622&view=findpost&p=12468348)
*** Follow up RE peach:
With BIG thanks to TrebledTimes at TWoP for this elaboration on his original sighting on 12/20 in San Fran: (He was linked to our photos for comparisons)

What I can say with 100% certainty was that it was noon PST at the corner of Larkin and California Streets. What I saw were two large guys wearing navy blue fleeces or jackets carrying what looked like a large locked trunk. I was across the street and they were facing the other direction. I'm not sure I could even hazard a guess based on those photos, although I would say with 90% certainty they were wearing navy blue. And the film crew were quite agro (they nearly knocked me over, which is why I noticed what they were doing) which leads me to believe it was actual footage they were after.



Plaidmoon2:
* jenbakerbrown: the two guys we saw were young and wearing cowboy hats. The officer at customs told me they were from Amazing Race

Chateau d if: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21253.msg505174.html#msg505174)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_41.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/41.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_42.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/42.jpg) Louis and Michael captured by Chateau at SFO on 12/20, non race mode, traveling with production.

thanks to qwerty @ sucks taken on 12/19  (http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/61182/t/TAR-16-Spoilers.html?page=20) -- sequestered team evidence

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_IMG_0034.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/IMG_0034.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/th_IMG_0035.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/IMG_0035.jpg)

Macaroons:
I spoke to someone else in San Fran who saw the cowboys around the Great American Music Hall, which is on O'Farrell Street. They said they were very frantic and tried to get a cab but there was someone in it. They tried to get the people to give up the cab but they wouldn't so they ran to the next street over, Geary Street and caught a cab there.

I don't know if there was something at the Music Hall or if it was just the nearest landmark to describe where they were. Here is a map of it in comparison to Coit Tower. Notice that it is towards heading back in the direction of Hunter's Point, which would be further to the bottom right of what this map shows.

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7091/sanfranf.jpg)



Title: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 02:32:57 PM
CONFIRMED:

NOT TORONTO!!

SANTIAGO IT IS!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 02:35:11 PM
Yes, I just found out it definitely is Chile.

OH WELL, WE COULD HAVE HOPED!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 02:40:51 PM
 shloky: amazing race _ they're headed to Chile. both santiago and wolf castle. theres a bus involved
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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 02:41:45 PM
Wolf Castle anyone? Possibly buses from the airport to Wolf Castle!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 02:49:20 PM
BUS to VALPARAISO
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
Amazing race: I just called my friend in Toronto.There is flags and a cluebox outside the brickworks. 

 :funny: :funny: :funny:

Liar, Liar pants on fire.

Have we got anyone here from Santiago or in particular Valparaiso!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Macaroons on November 28, 2009, 02:51:20 PM
We should look into AA 945 from DFW to Santiago. Are there earlier flights that get there?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 02:55:02 PM
amazing race didnt see twins or asians. theyre going to chile by way of dwf or dulles or stl. gate is stacked

This gives us something I hope!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: David on November 28, 2009, 02:55:36 PM
Can we think of a diverge point? Something completely new in the race? Or will it just be a decoying behaviour?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: 2old4tech on November 28, 2009, 03:22:45 PM
Can we think of a diverge point? Something completely new in the race? Or will it just be a decoying behaviour?

1/2 teams to Chile; 1/2 to Toronto?  That would be interesting.  Could accomplish a double elmination on 1st leg.  Just spec though...until we hear from the "Man in the Field"   :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 03:29:21 PM
It is Santiago >>Valpairaiso guys.

Remember who brought us the FALSE MAuritius spoiler. :groan:

SOmebody be helpful here please and do some research.

I would like to see a list of top sights and a nice map of Valpairaiso please.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Caelestor on November 28, 2009, 03:38:36 PM
History of Valparaiso (Wikipedia):

Although Santiago is Chile's official capital, Valparaiso houses the National Congress. Valparaíso played an important geopolitical role in the second half of the 19th century, when the city served as a major stopover for ships traveling between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans by crossing the Straits of Magellan. Always a magnet for European immigrants, Valparaíso mushroomed during its golden age, when the city was known by international sailors as “Little San Francisco” or “The Jewel of the Pacific.”
Examples of Valparaíso’s former glory include Latin America’s oldest stock exchange, the continent’s first volunteer fire department, Chile’s first public library, and the oldest Spanish language newspaper in continuous publication in the world.

It has also been the residence of many artists, such as Pablo Neruda (TAR should visit his house) and Nicaraguan poet Rubén Darío.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Sailing on November 28, 2009, 03:39:58 PM
Someone know the flight attendans that fly lax to DFW.They need conformation that the teams are head to dallad. Anyone?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 03:40:08 PM
http://www.eso.org/sci/meetings/IHOT09/Images/valpotour.jpg

Nice central map, zoom though!

Examples of Valparaíso’s former glory include Latin America’s oldest stock exchange, the continent’s first volunteer fire department, Chile’s first public library, and the oldest Spanish language newspaper in continuous publication in the world. The opening of the Panama Canal and reduction in ship traffic dealt a staggering blow to Valparaíso, though the city has staged an impressive renaissance in recent years.

Landmarks include:

Iglesia de la Matriz
Sotomayor Square
Courthouse
The "4 season women", bought by Francisco Echaurren in 1877, in Plaza de la victoria
The late "Cafè Riquet" which was a classic amongst "Porteños" or locals, along with the otherevents that often take place at the Anibal Pinto Square
The 16 remaining "Funiculars", 15 public(national monuments)/ 1 private (that belongs to "Hospital Carlos Van Buren"), of which at one point there were up to 29 of them.
The Concepcion & Alegre Historical District
The Bellavista hill, which has the "Museo a Cielo Abierto" or "open sky museum".
Monument to Admiral Lord Thomas Alexander Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald.
Monument to Manuel Blanco Encalada, first Chilean President, Born in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 03:46:37 PM
Thanks guys!! This is a BIG help!!

Also...can someone review all the tweets and see if we can possibly sort out the actual START location? Or some possibilities??

:ghug:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 03:48:38 PM
I have just been reading over them and noone specified anything about the start line at all so we can only speculate. I certainly didn't see anything about where they began!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
You have to research possibilities based on where they were seen kiwi, unlikely to have it handed to us.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 03:57:50 PM
Been looking into this a bit... and just going with the hotel spoilers in downtown LA... you can extrapolate something like this....

One of the downtown hotels used by USC (to house alumni/team) is the Omni Hotel

Given that, what else is there to do downtown within walking distance of the hotel....

- Angels Flight (funicular) next to Omni (closed for repairs)
- Walt Disney Concert Hall (modern Bilbao-like structure) possible indoor start ?
- a whole lot of nothing.........  but great access to the freeways...

In short, I got nothin'   :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: caper on November 28, 2009, 04:02:19 PM
Could this be connected to the start location??? see (9)   =
http://ens.lacity.org/bpw/agendas/bpwagendas8663713_11252009.pdf
 but I think it would be close to where teams were spotted??? (I'm probably just grasping at straws  :duno:)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Macaroons on November 28, 2009, 04:02:46 PM
I think the hotel was said to be the Downtown Marriott so we might be looking at another big landmark in downtown LA.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 04:04:44 PM
I can't find a wolf castle in Chile...anyone??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: ZBC Company on November 28, 2009, 04:10:06 PM
 the staples centre is possiable
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Sam‽ on November 28, 2009, 04:11:24 PM
I can't find a wolf castle in Chile...anyone??

Could it be this place in Viña del Mar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wulff_Castle
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 28, 2009, 04:12:37 PM
I can't find a wolf castle in Chile...anyone??

Maybe not in Chile, but there is a Wolf's Castle in Wales.  The possibilities are either Canada, Chile, or Wales.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Macaroons on November 28, 2009, 04:14:49 PM
I can't find a wolf castle in Chile...anyone??

http://www.corrugatedcity.com/2009/05/sunset.html
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 28, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
So it's official, Chile is the first stop on the 16th season.  So are they going to stay in Chile for leg2 or continue onto another country?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 04:24:13 PM
I can't find a wolf castle in Chile...anyone??

Could it be this place in Viña del Mar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wulff_Castle

:ty3: Sam!!

pics at sam's link

Wulff Castle
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 
Northern view
"El Castillo Wulff", as it is called in Spanish, in 1930Current Headquarters for the Unidad de Patrimonio de la Municipalidad de Viña del Mar (Viña del Mar City Hall Patrimony Unit). Located on 37 Marina Avenue, it is almost hanging over the sea.

[edit] History
Mr. Gustavo Wulff, German saltpeter and coal trader, as well as maritime transporter, migrated to Chile in 1881. In 1904, he bought from Dr. Teodoro Von Schoeders 1,260m2 in front of Cerro Castillo (Castle Hill), in Viña del Mar where he had a house built and ready in 1908.

By 1917, Mr. Wulff hired architect Alberto Cruz Montt to make the house into a castle. Eventually a new tower was added built upon some rocks on the northern side of the castle, and a bridge joined them together.

In 1946, Mrs. Esperanza Artaza Matta inherited the property, and asked another architect, José Alcalde, to transform it again. The southern tower was suppressed.

The City bought the castle in 1959. From 1960 until 1988, it housed the Museo Naval de la Armada de Chile (Chilean Navy Forces Museum). Between 1990 and 1999, it lodged the collection of the writer Salvador Reyes Figueroa. In 1995, it was pronounced a National Historical Monument by Chilean Law.[1]
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
No way of knowing that yet  :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 28, 2009, 04:39:36 PM
Just out speculation, I think the race will go South America to three possible continents. South America to Africa, South America to Oceania, or South America to Europe.  Past seasons that used South America as the first few stops, often go on to other continents: S2 Brazil-South Africa, S5 Argentina-Russia, S7 Argentina-South Africa, S9 Brazil-Russia, S11 Argentina-Mozambique, S13 Bolivia-New Zealand.  So all I am saying, this seasons route could include either Africa, Europe, or Oceania after the first two-three legs in Chile/South America.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 04:44:07 PM
Only one flight I could find out of Dallas/Ft. Worth to Santiago, AA flight 945, departing 9:10 p.m.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 28, 2009, 04:47:18 PM
No way of knowing that yet  :funny:

I might have figured out where the possible switchback for this season is. Look at Season7 when they drove from Chile to Argentina across the Andes on Leg 3.  Remember the Roadblock on that leg, where they had to eat all that meat and some of the teams decided to not finish it and endure a 30min time penalty.  That was a memorable moment.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 28, 2009, 05:25:18 PM
No way of knowing that yet  :funny:

I might have figured out where the possible switchback for this season is. Look at Season7 when they drove from Chile to Argentina across the Andes on Leg 3.  Remember the Roadblock on that leg, where they had to eat all that meat and some of the teams decided to not finish it and endure a 30min time penalty.  That was a memorable moment.
I know that is going to happen! That MUST happen! Best Roadblock ever! :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 05:28:13 PM
I came here to read that? knock it off please!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 05:51:05 PM
Only one flight I could find out of Dallas/Ft. Worth to Santiago, AA flight 945, departing 9:10 p.m.

Yes, thank you YY and :welcome: to RFF!

This is the only Dallas >Santiago flight tonight.

My SPEC is that the other half of the teams may be flying via Miami.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 06:03:39 PM
Only one flight I could find out of Dallas/Ft. Worth to Santiago, AA flight 945, departing 9:10 p.m.

Yes, thank you YY and :welcome: to RFF!

This is the only Dallas >Santiago flight tonight.

My SPEC is that the other half of the teams may be flying via Miami.

Thanks! Huge JeJo fan here.

Two flights out of Miami tonight to Santiago Chile, LAN flight 501 leaving at 8:20 pm and AA 957 leaving at 11:45 p.m.

ETA, I doubt those on the flights to Miami will get out of Miami before 11:45 pm, unless they can get off the LAX flight and to the gate that takes them to Chile in five minutes b/c the LAX flight logically they'd have to be on, to Miami, which left LAX at 2:30 pm, gets into Miami at 8:15 pm and the Santiago flight leaves at 8:20 pm........so from everythign I just spent six million years researching, it looks like those that went to Dallas should get to Chile first, unless some miracle happens for the Miami folks to get on that 8:20 pm flight.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 06:08:07 PM
here is my spec: These two flights arrive close toegther.

ANYONE IN MIAMI WHO WANTS TO PLAY?? PM ME!!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/TAR16arrivalsSantiago.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 06:17:47 PM
Yeah what they said, I was just going to post that too. 15 min lead time isn't great, but it's better than nothing.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 06:20:20 PM
Sounds right! American x2!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 06:23:36 PM
Plenty of seats available on the Dallas flight, the AA website shows 58 open seats, the Miami flight shows 24 open seats.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Slowhatch on November 28, 2009, 06:33:56 PM
So this is it, approaching the Yucatan? Too bad there's nobody I know in Santiago.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: 2old4tech on November 28, 2009, 06:37:19 PM
Didn't see this anywhere, so...

From Caper's find upthread:
Quote
(9)
COMMUNI- Film L.A. Inc. #1, requesting Board grant @Radical
CATIONS Media, Inc. permission to close 2nd Street tunnel from
Hill Street to Figueroa Street on Saturday and Sunday,
November 28-29, 2009 from 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
for filming purposes

and the Downtown Mariott sighting...

Quote
A
Marriott Hotels Resorts Suites: Los Angeles Downtown Marriott‎unstarred - more info »
333 South Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, CA‎

Turn left on Figuero Street as soon as you exit the 2nd Street Tunnel.  Hotel is about a block and a half.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 06:43:50 PM
So this is it, approaching the Yucatan? Too bad there's nobody I know in Santiago.

That's strange b/c AA 945 leaving Dallas to Santiago hasnt' left yet for Chile!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Slowhatch on November 28, 2009, 06:47:09 PM
Maybe she just misheard Wulff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wulff_Castle).

Nvm, two different people had it in two different threads. Oy, this is getting confusing.  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 06:57:12 PM
Didn't see this anywhere, so...

From Caper's find upthread:
Quote
(9)
COMMUNI- Film L.A. Inc. #1, requesting Board grant @Radical
CATIONS Media, Inc. permission to close 2nd Street tunnel from
Hill Street to Figueroa Street on Saturday and Sunday,
November 28-29, 2009 from 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
for filming purposes

and the Downtown Mariott sighting...

Quote
A
Marriott Hotels Resorts Suites: Los Angeles Downtown Marriott‎unstarred - more info »
333 South Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, CA‎

Turn left on Figuero Street as soon as you exit the 2nd Street Tunnel.  Hotel is about a block and a half.

Interesting, the Disney Music Center is on 2nd, between Hill & Figueroa,,,, and the Dorothy Chandler Pavillion and Mark Taper Forum are just to the north.  Nice little plaza between those two venues.  hmmmm........  ;D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: ZBC Company on November 28, 2009, 07:01:28 PM
 



  stay this might the  start line  dont think fit 11 team down in this tunnel
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2009, 07:03:27 PM
I think it looks plausible! Is it?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 07:09:30 PM
Maybe she just misheard Wulff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wulff_Castle).

Nvm, two different people had it in two different threads. Oy, this is getting confusing.  :duno:
Sorry Slowhatch, I know it needs to be sorted out but I'm still looking for sightings.  :colors
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: 2old4tech on November 28, 2009, 07:28:35 PM

Turn left on Figuero Street as soon as you exit the 2nd Street Tunnel.  Hotel is about a block and a half.

...and if you exit the tunnel at Hill, turn left and go one block to the Civic Center Station (Metro).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 07:29:25 PM
Does anyone have the times they were at LAX? Depending on when they got there, flying via Miami may have not been an option (the last flight out was at 2:30pm)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 07:30:34 PM
Does anyone have the times they were at LAX? Depending on when they got there, flying via Miami may have not been an option (the last flight out was at 2:30pm)

That is not correct...see what I posted re the flights to Santiago. :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 07:36:05 PM
From Google Maps...

Maybe they're going to the LA Superior Court? :D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Caelestor on November 28, 2009, 07:37:45 PM
I'm really thinking that the Concert Hall was the start line.
And I was there last winter... :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 07:44:32 PM
Does anyone have the times they were at LAX? Depending on when they got there, flying via Miami may have not been an option (the last flight out was at 2:30pm)

That is not correct...see what I posted re the flights to Santiago. :waves:

Yup, either Miami or DFW, and like was posted, the available flights are due to arrive in Chile within 15 - 30 mins of each other.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Moo on November 28, 2009, 07:45:52 PM
We can say that the teams might be resting now right?

and our first possible elimination (if teams did not compete in a starting line elimination)?

Yay for TAR 16 starting!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Sailing on November 28, 2009, 07:47:27 PM
Departing from Gate D34 11:45 pm in :

Miami 31 A

He is in row 30 B

who lives in Miami?

Jeff and Jordan 100% cconfirmed by me at dfw airport
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 07:49:40 PM
Does anyone have the times they were at LAX? Depending on when they got there, flying via Miami may have not been an option (the last flight out was at 2:30pm)

That is not correct...see what I posted re the flights to Santiago. :waves:

Yes I saw that, but of the flights from LAX to Miami from AA, the last one departed LAX at 2:30pm to Miami to get in at 10:15ish (with an 11:45 departure from MIA to SLC)

Or am I just confusing myself?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 07:58:57 PM
from JimmyHodson


@PuddinRFF They were NOT on the 11:50 American Airlines flight to DFW and more couples were still arriving in terminal at noon when I left.

@heyhay28 Sorry, I didn't recognize anyone or get pix, but they were at the AA terminal, but not on the 11:50 flight to DFW.

@heyhay28 Couples were still arriving in AA terminal @ noon.There was a 6'-6" guy, Asian couple, black couple, a pretty blonde girl. No pix!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: 2old4tech on November 28, 2009, 08:00:51 PM


...and if you exit the tunnel at Hill, turn left and go one block to the Civic Center Station (Metro).

Once at Civic Center Staton take either of the two lines (Red or Purple) one stop to Union Station.  Once there it's...
Quote
Now there’s a fast, affordable
connection between Downtown
LA and LAX that’s easy to reach
from Metro Rail, Metro Bus,
Metrolink and Amtrak. Try the
new Union Station FlyAway.
FlyAway buses run 24 hours a day (every
30 minutes from 5 am to 1 am, and each
hour from 1 am to 5 am). The buses leave
from Bay 9 of the Patsaouras Transit Plaza
adjacent to Union Station via the East Portal.
> Tickets are $3 one-way ($2 each way for
children 2-12). Purchase tickets before you
board at the FlyAway kiosk in the Patsaouras
Transit Plaza. Note: Metro Passes are not
valid on this service.

Press release when the service started estimated 45 minute trip non-stop to LAX.  I don't live there, so don't know if this is accurate or even if this a good time for a Saturday late AM trip.  But it would mean no expensive rental cars and no driving.  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 08:26:37 PM
Departing from Gate D34 11:45 pm in :

Miami 31 A

He is in row 30 B

who lives in Miami?

Jeff and Jordan 100% cconfirmed by me at dfw airport

Want to elaborate please?? DFW is Dallas... what confirmation>>
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: heyhay28 on November 28, 2009, 08:29:41 PM
Departing from Gate D34 11:45 pm in :

Miami 31 A

He is in row 30 B

who lives in Miami?

Jeff and Jordan 100% cconfirmed by me at dfw airport

Want to elaborate please?? DFW is Dallas... what confirmation>>

The person who got the information got it at the DFW airport from someone working there, so it was confirmed by her at the DFW airport that Jeff and Jordan on that flight and those are their seats
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 08:32:10 PM
But it is two pieces of conflicting info


EITHER they are on the Miami flight dep Miami GAte D34 at 1145 PM OR they are departing Dallas in 40 minutes...not both so pick one, :lol:!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 08:33:35 PM
Departing from Gate D34 11:45 pm in :

Miami 31 A

He is in row 30 B

who lives in Miami?

Jeff and Jordan 100% cconfirmed by me at dfw airport

Want to elaborate please?? DFW is Dallas... what confirmation>>

The person who got the information got it at the DFW airport from someone working there, so it was confirmed by her at the DFW airport that Jeff and Jordan on that flight and those are their seats

And that's what scares me honestly. Trust me, I don't think the person that got it did it with any malicious or negative scary intent, but it scares me that an airline would give passenger information out, even to a relative and risk their job like that. I know, I know, it's not a big deal, but honestly, it should be in this day and age.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Caelestor on November 28, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
We need to rename this thread to "TAR 16 Leg 1 Discussion."
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kristin626 on November 28, 2009, 08:34:12 PM
But it is two pieces of conflicting info


EITHER they are on the Miami flight dep Miami GAte D34 at 1145 PM OR they are departing Dallas in 40 minutes...not both so pick one, :lol:!

The poster at AllboutBigBrother.com is in Dallas currently and was checking flights via her flight attendant mom.  She confirmed that J/J are NOT on a flight coming into Dallas, but instead, they are on the Miami flight listed...hope that straightens it all out!  =)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 08:38:27 PM
I'm really thinking that the Concert Hall was the start line.
And I was there last winter... :tup:

 :lol:  according to the schedule, the Disney Concert Hall was available for "other" use till 8pm... hmmmmm   ;D  :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Sailing on November 28, 2009, 08:42:11 PM
But it is two pieces of conflicting info


EITHER they are on the Miami flight dep Miami GAte D34 at 1145 PM OR they are departing Dallas in 40 minutes...not both so pick one, :lol:!

The poster at AllboutBigBrother.com is in Dallas currently and was checking flights via her flight attendant mom.  She confirmed that J/J are NOT on a flight coming into Dallas, but instead, they are on the Miami flight listed...hope that straightens it all out!  =)

The info from miami to chile is 100% accuate I know.no airline or flight attendant just saw the manifesto.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Caelestor on November 28, 2009, 08:43:32 PM
I'm really thinking that the Concert Hall was the start line.
And I was there last winter... :tup:

 :lol:  according to the schedule, the Disney Concert Hall was available for "other" use till 8pm... hmmmmm   ;D  :funny:

Beats the LA River in elegance though  :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 08:46:05 PM
Thanks Kristin! Teams were spotted at LAX in close prrximity to several gates...they could have easily been sitting at one and departing at the other.

So looks like teams via the Miami flight are confirmed then...

Since they have NEVER had all 11/12 teams on the SAME flight, and Santiago IS confirmed, we need to wait and see!

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Jobby on November 28, 2009, 08:46:13 PM
I'm really thinking that the Concert Hall was the start line.
And I was there last winter... :tup:

 :lol:  according to the schedule, the Disney Concert Hall was available for "other" use till 8pm... hmmmmm   ;D  :funny:

The Walt Disney Concert Hall at 111 South Grand Avenue in Downtown Los Angeles, California is the fourth hall of the Los Angeles Music Center. Bounded by Hope Street, Grand Avenue, 1st and 2nd Streets, it seats 2,265 people and serves (among other purposes) as the home of the Los Angeles Philharmonic orchestra and the Los Angeles Master Chorale.

Lillian Disney made an initial gift in 1987 to build a performance venue as a gift to the people of Los Angeles and a tribute to Walt Disney's devotion to the arts and the city. The Frank Gehry-designed building opened on October 23 2003. Both the architecture by Frank Gehry and the acoustics of the concert hall (designed by Yasuhisa Toyota) were praised in contrast to its predecessor, the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion.

(http://i47.[banned image hosting site].com/2vmit6t.jpg)

Looks extremely iconic enough for a good starting line location, INDOORS, to prevent spoilers from leaking out like last season... :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 08:54:04 PM
Perhaps they start them inside and have them run up the steps of the actual concert hall, similar to when they left from the Coliseum?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 08:54:58 PM
 :lol:  for the traditionalist, they could have started outside too... just north of the Hall is the Music Center Plaza.  It's a bit open to the public, but could work just as well.  Go to this link (http://www.musiccenter.org/about/multimedia_video.html) and click on the "Music Center Plaza" panorama video.   :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Caelestor on November 28, 2009, 08:55:46 PM
Off topic, but how do you become a TAR Detective? Noticed that in the profiles of a few users...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Hooky on November 28, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Off topic, but how do you become a TAR Detective? Noticed that in the profiles of a few users...

I think you just have to do enough work and provide enough info and then they'll give you that title. I'm not sure, though.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 09:00:06 PM
Off topic, but how do you become a TAR Detective? Noticed that in the profiles of a few users...

you have to know the secret handshake.... and sell your soul to the devil...   }:>  bwahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 09:10:05 PM
Here's what I can offer...

The easiest way from the Concert Hall area to LAX is the 110S to 105W. It'd take about 20 minutes or so. Generally M-F, the 110S in the morning is a nightmare. But Saturday is a different story, it's not bad at all. The Sbound lanes have a carpool lane at first, but merge off later.

I think the reason they were able to start on a Saturday is because USC-UCLA was a 7pm game leaving the roads fairly open in the morning (and they are playing at SC this year).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 09:44:07 PM
Okay...the Dallas flight to Santiago has left the gate...and NO teams were spotted there.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 09:51:42 PM
Okay...the Dallas flight to Santiago has left the gate...and NO teams were spotted there.

Hmmmmmmmm, interesting!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 09:53:52 PM
OK I might be a bit off topic, but technically this is their "first" destination ;)

The way I see it, there are really only 2 places the teams can start at the concert hall...either the main auditorium, or the garden area. Any of the other amphitheaters are quite small.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 28, 2009, 09:55:33 PM
 
Quote
Okay...the Dallas flight to Santiago has left the gate...and NO teams were spotted there.
???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 09:58:12 PM
The ONLY possibility is if teams were preboarded at least an hour and a half before any one else boarded.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 10:12:29 PM
The ONLY possibility is if teams were preboarded at least an hour and a half before any one else boarded.

I seriously doubt that too.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 28, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
hamsterwatch posted this link on twitter

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do?id=177066355&utm_source=airlineInformationAndStatus&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=co-op
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: autowil on November 28, 2009, 10:17:28 PM
Yes Amazing Race 16 is back in original Format!!

Season 15 countires is disappointment.. So many European Countries..
Can't wait for more countires to spoilt!! Ur guys are Wonderful!!

Love Chille!! Hope they can go more exotic countires!!  :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: topaz on November 28, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
you want to be banned topaz?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: theschnauzers on November 28, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
That Google Earth map of the area near the downtown Hilton had the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion marked on it.

That was a longtime venue for the Oscars, and the Emmys, and I could see that being a theme for Phil to use in his opening monolouge/meet the teams.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Moo on November 28, 2009, 11:00:11 PM
Yes Amazing Race 16 is back in original Format!!

Season 15 countires is disappointment.. So many European Countries..
Can't wait for more countires to spoilt!! Ur guys are Wonderful!!

Love Chille!! Hope they can go more exotic countires!!  :hearts: :hearts:

European Countries for TAR 15 are only Netherlands, Sweden, Estonia and Czech Rep. Asia had more legs than Europe IMO.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 11:08:14 PM
So to make sure, the teams arrive in Santiago at 10am local time? So 2 hours ahead of EST?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 11:15:43 PM
Off topic, but how do you become a TAR Detective? Noticed that in the profiles of a few users...

you have to know the secret handshake.... and sell your soul to the devil...   }:>  bwahahahahahaha!
Boingo is in charge of applications  :jam:

okay off to Miami  :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2009, 11:26:04 PM
So to make sure, the teams arrive in Santiago at 10am local time? So 2 hours ahead of EST?
timeanddate.com is a wonderful site for time conversions.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 28, 2009, 11:28:22 PM
Did anybody make it to the Miami airport to get pictures there?  I'm worried that my Jeff & Jordan are possibly on the second flight that left LAX.  Hope they can catch up.

First flight was like 5 mins after the flight from LAX the teams were supposed to be on, like 8:20 pm, no way were any teams able to get on that unless Jesus himself carried them there.

Next flight after that was 11:45 pm.

Now both flights were delayed. The 8:20 pm one left at 8:37 pm, the 11:45 pm one left about 15-20 mins ago, but I still doubt any teams got on the first flight. My bet is most that went through Miami (and no teams were spotted at DFW to my knowledge) were on the latter flight.

Add one thing on, there was a flight in the middle, but I do know that JeJo were supposedly on AA 957. Left 15-20 mins ago, and it's an 8+hour flight.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: chill_sd on November 28, 2009, 11:31:43 PM
Did anybody make it to the Miami airport to get pictures there?  I'm worried that my Jeff & Jordan are possibly on the second flight that left LAX.  Hope they can catch up.

First flight was like 5 mins after the flight from LAX the teams were supposed to be on, like 8:20 pm, no way were any teams able to get on that unless Jesus himself carried them there.

Next flight after that was 11:45 pm.

Now both flights were delayed. The 8:20 pm one left at 8:37 pm, the 11:45 pm one left about 15-20 mins ago, but I still doubt any teams got on the first flight. My bet is most that went through Miami (and no teams were spotted at DFW to my knowledge) were on the latter flight.

Add one thing on, there was a flight in the middle, but I do know that JeJo were supposedly on AA 957. Left 15-20 mins ago, and it's an 8+hour flight.


Where are you getting flight info.  My tracker says that AA957 has not left Miami yet.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 28, 2009, 11:37:14 PM
So to make sure, the teams arrive in Santiago at 10am local time? So 2 hours ahead of EST?
timeanddate.com is a wonderful site for time conversions.

Yeah, Google is my friend too  :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: stifflfootball on November 28, 2009, 11:41:20 PM
First time poster... I just went to flightview.com's flight tracker site and it appears that AA 957 from Miami is currently delayed to Santiago.  AA flight 945 from DFW is enroute and scheduled to arrive just before 9AM local time (45 minutes early).  Assuming teams were in both DFW & Miami then the time gap could be significant depending on how much longer AA 957 is delayed.

ETA - AA 957 has now departed from Miami at 12:37 ET and is now scheduled to land about 40 minutes after the DFW flight.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Ray! on November 28, 2009, 11:46:07 PM
Quote
Okay...the Dallas flight to Santiago has left the gate...and NO teams were spotted there.
???

I CANNOT believe I'm spoiler-ing again. I told myself not to. Stupid curiosity. I blame the Sucks posters for posting a Chile TAR16 spoiler in the TAR15 spoiler thread. :funny:

Is there a chance teams took a flight going thru Buenos Aires?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: chill_sd on November 28, 2009, 11:48:09 PM
AA957 left Miami approx 12:36 EST.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: redwings8831 on November 28, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
Quote
Okay...the Dallas flight to Santiago has left the gate...and NO teams were spotted there.
???

I CANNOT believe I'm spoiler-ing again. I told myself not to. Stupid curiosity. I blame the Sucks posters for posting a Chile TAR16 spoiler in the TAR15 spoiler thread. :funny:

Is there a chance teams took a flight going thru Buenos Aires?

I think the flights left the United States and went straight to Chile (meaning the only stop was in the US going from LAX).

And now that you've started spoiling this season (although its only the first clue), you have to do it all the way through. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: jgriff on November 29, 2009, 12:00:32 AM
new here..so HI

Flightaware has JeJo's flight leaving at 12:37 Am
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL957
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 12:08:04 AM
stifflfootball & jgriff, welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Ray! on November 29, 2009, 12:16:07 AM
Quote
Okay...the Dallas flight to Santiago has left the gate...and NO teams were spotted there.
???

I CANNOT believe I'm spoiler-ing again. I told myself not to. Stupid curiosity. I blame the Sucks posters for posting a Chile TAR16 spoiler in the TAR15 spoiler thread. :funny:

Is there a chance teams took a flight going thru Buenos Aires?

I think the flights left the United States and went straight to Chile (meaning the only stop was in the US going from LAX).

And now that you've started spoiling this season (although its only the first clue), you have to do it all the way through. :lol:

NO! I'll go out again! :funny: Bye guys. Have fun spoiling! :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Zack. on November 29, 2009, 12:52:43 AM
Buses to Vina del Mar are *very* frequent; perhaps TPTB wanted a way to separate the teams (though it's due to taxi luck  :groan:)

Quote
30/11/2009    10:30    Stgo.Pajaritos       30/11/2009    12:00     3.100       CLAS.CORTO       [Consulta Intermedio(s)]
30/11/2009    10:40    Stgo.T.Alameda TB       30/11/2009    12:30    3.100       CLAS.CORTO       [Consulta Intermedio(s)]
30/11/2009    10:45    Stgo.Pajaritos        30/11/2009    12:15    3.100       CLAS.CORTO       [Consulta Intermedio(s)]
30/11/2009    10:55    Stgo.T.Alameda TB       30/11/2009    12:45    3.100       CLAS.CORTO       [Consulta Intermedio(s)]
30/11/2009    11:00    Stgo.Pajaritos       30/11/2009    12:30    3.100       CLAS.CORTO       [Consulta Intermedio(s)]
30/11/2009    11:10    Stgo.T.Alameda TB       30/11/2009    13:00    3.100       CLAS.CORTO

I have to think there's some other way that the teams will be separated, be it something in the start line or something in Santiago.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 29, 2009, 01:45:31 AM

I have to think there's some other way that the teams will be separated, be it something in the start line or something in Santiago.

remember this is leg one.... so there's going to be major bunching early in this leg due to the mandatory "first leg mandatory rest period".  At most they will be separated by 15-30 minutes after the rest.  Also, given there's only one major task in this leg, it's going to come down to a major slip up or footrace to the pitstop, IMHO.   ;D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 02:11:39 AM
ya know this place is pretty awesome, I finally had a chance to check it out!

VIÑA DEL MAR

Castillo Wulff en el atardecer or Atardecer en el Castillo ...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Seattlite on November 29, 2009, 02:43:17 AM
What fun! Thanks for the hard work.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: David on November 29, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
ya know this place is pretty awesome, I finally had a chance to check it out!

VIÑA DEL MAR

Castillo Wulff en el atardecer or Atardecer en el Castillo ...

This HAS to be another Dep. Times. I think it should be obvious to have some buses/clues given at different times the following day, after their arrival. We just have to locate some things more, as usually, the first leg of the race is the one with the less clues, no DT or RB...

However, if they are arriving at noon or 1 or 2 PM, that's not the usual times to grab departure times. Should we think that TAR 16 break that "rule"??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: apskip on November 29, 2009, 06:51:39 AM
Quote
Okay...the Dallas flight to Santiago has left the gate...and NO teams were spotted there.
???

I CANNOT believe I'm spoiler-ing again. I told myself not to. Stupid curiosity. I blame the Sucks posters for posting a Chile TAR16 spoiler in the TAR15 spoiler thread. :funny:

Is there a chance teams took a flight going thru Buenos Aires?

Raymond, I originally thought your idea was far-fetched because Buenos Aires is 1 times zones and about 1000 miles east of Santiago. However, working backward there are 2 flights which have already departed from EZE by now (AR400, LA 4630) which land before or at the same time as the flights indicated from Miami or Dallas. If continue backward you find that the only find which can connect with them is based on AA4473 from LAX nonstop to Lima. Since that flight continues direct to Santiago, there is little possbility that teams got off and went 1000 x 2 miles out of their way to get to Santiago. so, the bottom line is that your idea has greater than a 0 probability, but is very unlikely.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 29, 2009, 08:48:43 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_16#Leg_1_.28United_States_.E2.86.92_Chile.29
Although its wikipedia theentire route has been released.

 :groan:  appears page was last modified 11/29 and no route info appears, not even a start date (which we already know).  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: DrRox on November 29, 2009, 09:17:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_16#Leg_1_.28United_States_.E2.86.92_Chile.29
Although its wikipedia theentire route has been released.

 :groan:  appears page was last modified 11/29 and no route info appears, not even a start date (which we already know).  :lol:

Boingo,

I actually got there before it was erased and copied it to a Word Doc......just seemed like someone's wish list.........
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 29, 2009, 09:29:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_16#Leg_1_.28United_States_.E2.86.92_Chile.29
Although its wikipedia theentire route has been released.

 :groan:  appears page was last modified 11/29 and no route info appears, not even a start date (which we already know).  :lol:

Boingo,

I actually got there before it was erased and copied it to a Word Doc......just seemed like someone's wish list.........

Problem is, it's Wikipedia. I could go on there and edit it to have them going to the North Pole to visit Santa, but that doesnt' make it so.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Boingo on November 29, 2009, 11:40:50 AM
 :lol:    OK, i'm bored....     :juggle
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 11:56:20 AM
Is it just me or does password love to pass around fake spoilers?  :res:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
Is it just me or does password love to pass around fake spoilers?  :res:

Absolutely.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 29, 2009, 01:13:16 PM
Why hasn't this flight landed yet?

AA957 MIA to SCL (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL957)

 It's over five hours late!!   Arrival:  "result unknown (?)"

 :snakes:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 29, 2009, 01:14:34 PM
Don't look at that. I was looking at that last night and it never moved from the Carribean for over 2 hours so I went back to Flight Tracker and low and behold they were crossing Panama almost into S.A haha
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 29, 2009, 01:15:11 PM
Plus, thats probably the new day flight!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 29, 2009, 01:18:05 PM
Something is messed up there for sure  :lol:

Wasn't  it supposed to land at 10:10 am Santiago time?  And right now it is 4:17 pm in Santiago.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 29, 2009, 01:19:37 PM
Why hasn't this flight landed yet?

AA957 MIA to SCL (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL957)

 It's over five hours late!!   Arrival:  "result unknown (?)"

 :snakes:

Direct from AA:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: David on November 29, 2009, 01:24:32 PM
What do you think about teams going to Canada, through Denver and Detroit, and be asked to make people think they are going to Santiago by looking for flights/info in some places in Chile? Maybe they are told to "decoy" themselves this way??

Peach told that no teams had been seen in a flight to Santiago??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 01:32:56 PM
We KNOW they went to Santiago.

We KNOW they used the Miami flight.

They were not seen in DFW however on the expected flight....but there is a maybe 1% chance  they could have been preboarded not via the gate itself...PURE SPEC! :lol:

There are just no other good flights that fit the necessary time frame ... esp as all teams were seen in the AA area at the same time in LAX.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: password on November 29, 2009, 01:55:02 PM
You two hush im just passing along info i see.

Is it just me or does password love to pass around fake spoilers?  :res:

Absolutely.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: River on November 29, 2009, 01:56:04 PM
You tw hsh imjust passing along info i see.

Is it just me or does password love to pass around fake spoilers?  :res:

Absolutely.
:groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: password on November 29, 2009, 01:58:02 PM
What is the latest updates on the race?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 02:03:02 PM
What is the latest updates on the race?

 :readtt:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: password on November 29, 2009, 02:04:16 PM

LOl
What is the latest updates on the race?

 :readtt:


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 29, 2009, 02:59:15 PM
We KNOW they went to Santiago.

We KNOW they used the Miami flight.

They were not seen in DFW however on the expected flight....but there is a maybe 1% chance  they could have been preboarded not via the gate itself...PURE SPEC! :lol:

There are just no other good flights that fit the necessary time frame ... esp as all teams were seen in the AA area at the same time in LAX.

And don't forget the dude at LAX who had his laptop used by a team to research Chile, somehow I doubt producers told them to do that to throw people off. And I also doubt they were bored and decided to research Chile if they were really going to Canada. I know if I were on that race and going to Chile, specifically directed to a certain place and had the time, I'd be researching the hell out of it to figure out how to get there and such. I might even be calling ahead to find a good cabbie that could get me there quick.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 03:57:09 PM
Chile is SURE.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 04:21:52 PM
Yeah theres no question about Chile, no need to debate it. Remember we had a man in the field   :taze
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: graytex on November 29, 2009, 04:39:52 PM
Just to give more details on DFW, I was at the Santiago gate (with a helper) from 6:30pm to 9:30pm.  I saw everyone that boarded the plane and there were no teams.  They would have had to get on the plane at a time different from the other passengers, or in the few minutes I walked around to other gates, shops, etc, looking for them.  I asked two gate workers and they had seen no teams (I feel pretty comfortable they weren't lieing to throw me off).  I feel pretty comfortable that the teams did not get on that Santiago flight.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: michael on November 29, 2009, 04:44:02 PM
Just to give more details on DFW, I was at the Santiago gate (with a helper) from 6:30pm to 9:30pm.  I saw everyone that boarded the plane and there were no teams.  They would have had to get on the plane at a time different from the other passengers, or in the few minutes I walked around to other gates, shops, etc, looking for them.  I asked two gate workers and they had seen no teams (I feel pretty comfortable they weren't lieing to throw me off).  I feel pretty comfortable that the teams did not get on that Santiago flight.

that is really weird...I wonder what's up
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 29, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
Is it just me or does password love to pass around fake spoilers?  :res:

Absolutely.
Is the Pope Catholic?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 04:58:26 PM
Thank you graytex for your effort  :jam:

Is it just me or does password love to pass around fake spoilers?  :res:

Absolutely.
Is the Pope Catholic?
Does the pope wear a funny hat?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: michael on November 29, 2009, 04:59:56 PM
Thank you graytex for your effort  :jam:

Is it just me or does password love to pass around fake spoilers?  :res:

Absolutely.
Is the Pope Catholic?
Does the pope wear a funny hat?

am I awesome?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: apskip on November 29, 2009, 05:19:28 PM
There is a casino in Vina del Mar. World Race Productions likes to use casinos wherever they exist. Here is a description of what to see and do in Vina Del Mar (thanks to wikipedia):

 Visitors and locals enjoy the parks and water fountains of the city, including a large flower clock (Reloj de Flores) with its numbers made up of flowering plants, near Caleta Abarca beach and Miramar Hotel. The Valparaiso Sporting Club horse racing track is another major landmark. Jardín Botánico or Parque del Salitre, a rather large botanical garden on the outskirts of the city, was originally designed and built by an entrepreneur who got rich from exploiting saltpeter resources in northern Chile.

 Most of the 19th century buildings that remain are located along Avenida Libertad (Liberty Avenue), Quillota Street and Quinta Vergara, a large park in the middle of the city. The presidential summer residence, Castillo Presidencial (Presidential Castle) is located on Cerro Castillo (Castle Hill).

The city's gambling casino is the oldest in Chile and also the most visited and luxurious. The casino was designed with art deco style and is surrounded by well-tended gardens (hence the city's nickname). In 2002 a hotel (Hotel del Mar) was added to the 1930s building, resembling the architectural features of the original building.

Palacio Rioja, a magnificent mansion built by Fernando Rioja in 1907, located on Quillota Street, houses an environmental museum. The Fonck Museum, located in Cuatro Norte Street, has a large exhibition of pre-Columbian articles, and a large moai (Easter Island statue made of volcanic rock), the only one in mainland Chile, is also on display. Palacio Carrasco, built by Emilio Carrasco in 1912, now houses the Municipal Library and also is used for arts exhibitions. The building is also surrounded by nice gardens adorned with fine sculptures including a Rodin. Palacio Vergara located in Quinta Vergara built by Blanca Vergara (daughter of José Francisco) in 1906  houses the School of Fine Arts.
 
Palacio Brunet (also known as "Castillo Yarur") was built in 1923 by Adolfo Brunet on Cerro Castillo, close to the presidential mansion. Currently it is owned by Carabineros de Chile (Chilean police) and is used as a reception center for illustrious visitors. It was declared a national monument in 2005.

Numerous bars and restaurants have recently opened in the area around Plaza México and Avenida San Martín, offering Chilean and international cuisine. Seafood restaurants are located on the Camino Costero (Coast Roadway) that joins Viña del Mar and Con-Cón, a coastal town to the north.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: YY on November 29, 2009, 05:36:29 PM
Just to give more details on DFW, I was at the Santiago gate (with a helper) from 6:30pm to 9:30pm.  I saw everyone that boarded the plane and there were no teams.  They would have had to get on the plane at a time different from the other passengers, or in the few minutes I walked around to other gates, shops, etc, looking for them.  I asked two gate workers and they had seen no teams (I feel pretty comfortable they weren't lieing to throw me off).  I feel pretty comfortable that the teams did not get on that Santiago flight.

that is really weird...I wonder what's up

Sometimes the teams have to take certain flights and aren't given any other options.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Washingtonian on November 29, 2009, 06:01:46 PM
Let's presume they went to Miami.  Why in the world would flights go from the west coast to the east coast only to go back west since Chile is in the Mountain Time Zone.  It simply doesn't make sense. 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: north09 on November 29, 2009, 06:05:58 PM
Let's presume they went to Miami.  Why in the world would flights go from the west coast to the east coast only to go back west since Chile is in the Mountain Time Zone.  It simply doesn't make sense. 

They've done it before. The most recent one I can think of is the TAR13 Premier which had some teams taking a flight from LA to Chicago to Brazil.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 29, 2009, 06:07:33 PM
Let's presume they went to Miami.  Why in the world would flights go from the west coast to the east coast only to go back west since Chile is in the Mountain Time Zone.  It simply doesn't make sense. 

Chile is actually 2 hours ahead of EST...it's 9:07 there right now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 06:08:56 PM
Let's presume they went to Miami.  Why in the world would flights go from the west coast to the east coast only to go back west since Chile is in the Mountain Time Zone.  It simply doesn't make sense. 
I'm expecting a long explanation from apskips any minute  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: chill_sd on November 29, 2009, 06:09:16 PM
Let's presume they went to Miami.  Why in the world would flights go from the west coast to the east coast only to go back west since Chile is in the Mountain Time Zone.  It simply doesn't make sense. 

Chile is actually aligned with the Atlantic time zone, one hour east of EST.  During Chile's summer, which is now, they are two hours ahead of EST.

South America is East of North America, not directly South.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: b4us on November 29, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
new to site and first post

Not aware of TAR travel rules, however, another flight possibility is LAN airlines, which I have personally flown from LAX to Mexico City/Lima/Rio and there are frequent connections to Santiago de Chile and nonstops to from LAX to Santiago.  These outward bound flights are long, 20+ hours.  Flies from Bradley terminal and code shares with AA.   Not sure where at LAX teams were photographed.

Could explain no teams yet??  I'm just sayin...

Great spoiler site!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: theschnauzers on November 29, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
TAR travel rules: On the first leg, TPTB pre-reserve a block of seats on one or more flights. (Only exceptions TAR 8 - which stayed in North America, and TAR 15 where TPTB provided the tickets for the 11 teams that completed the start line task. Teams are informed of the available flight options and teams try to get the pre-reserved fkight they think is the better choice. They do not make reservations based on their own teamwork at the ticket counter.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: chill_sd on November 29, 2009, 10:59:36 PM
new to site and first post

Not aware of TAR travel rules, however, another flight possibility is LAN airlines, which I have personally flown from LAX to Mexico City/Lima/Rio and there are frequent connections to Santiago de Chile and nonstops to from LAX to Santiago.  These outward bound flights are long, 20+ hours.  Flies from Bradley terminal and code shares with AA.   Not sure where at LAX teams were photographed.

Could explain no teams yet??  I'm just sayin...

Great spoiler site!

The AA flight from Miami to Santiago was in fact a codeshare with LAN.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Seattlite on November 30, 2009, 12:42:30 AM
I just got up and my coffee has't hit my brain yet but do I understand correctly that they have not been seen since leaving LA?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2009, 01:48:09 AM
I just got up and my coffee has't hit my brain yet but do I understand correctly that they have not been seen since leaving LA?
They'll turn up, they always do  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 30, 2009, 01:56:48 AM
We make sure they do  :jumpy: I'm bettin' they'll be sited soon!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Washingtonian on November 30, 2009, 05:19:41 AM
new to site and first post

Not aware of TAR travel rules, however, another flight possibility is LAN airlines, which I have personally flown from LAX to Mexico City/Lima/Rio and there are frequent connections to Santiago de Chile and nonstops to from LAX to Santiago.  These outward bound flights are long, 20+ hours.  Flies from Bradley terminal and code shares with AA.   Not sure where at LAX teams were photographed.

Could explain no teams yet??  I'm just sayin...

Great spoiler site!

Thanks guys, someone said mountain time zone but I should have looked it up before shooting my mouth off. 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2009, 02:08:36 PM
Hey everyone. I think we may have another sighing to the teams from TAR. Here is a tweet that I saw.
@mr_fuenzalida
I just watched 3 teams of the new season of The amazing race! They were super lost! Lol

He is from Rgua-Valpo-Rgua | Chile


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: Caelestor on November 30, 2009, 03:19:38 PM
My earlier post may have gotten lost earlier, but I'll reiterate:

Change the name of this topic to TAR 16 First Leg. In fact, I believe that teams may be doing two legs or a TBC in Chile.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2009, 03:26:08 PM
Yes, from tweets we believe they are being seen elsewhere this morning. yay!!

Don't worry about the title and topic threads for now, the first day or so of a new season is always like this, we will get it all sorted out soon!

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: River on November 30, 2009, 04:06:46 PM
From the twitter in the other thread, Turbus Terminal is in Santiago:

Terminal Turbus (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg498151/topicseen.html#msg498151)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 30, 2009, 04:47:08 PM
I think bus from santiago to valparaiso and leg 1 in valparaiso and then drive back to santiago and go to Turbus and then catch a bus somewhere! Sounds like something TAR would do!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2009, 04:54:32 PM
Hmmmm...we also have to consider that they may just be heading to the airport.

Just in case, here are the departures for the rest of the evening:

3-6PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/TAR16Santiagodepartures11-30to6PM.jpg)   

6-9PM:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/TAR16Santiagodepartures11-306-9PM.jpg)   

9-MN:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/TAR16Santiagodepartures11-309PMtoMN.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on November 30, 2009, 05:03:17 PM
Thinking we should keep an eye open for that Santiago-Auckland flight we used the last time to get to Asia, and I'm still crossing my fingers for Easter Island!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2009, 05:08:04 PM
Me too Neobie, I felt very short changed the last time!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2009, 05:15:26 PM
peach, maybe we'll see Antarctica?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: River on November 30, 2009, 05:17:04 PM
peach, maybe we'll see Antarctica?
That would be a miracle...But you never know...
 :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 30, 2009, 05:19:45 PM
Apart from the obvious (Lima, Madrid, Buenos Aires, Paris, Toronto, Auckland) all the other cities seem to be somewhere in Chile so I guess we can rule them out.

GYE is Ecuador, Punta Arenas is at the tip of Magellan, so maybe that's a possibility?

Auckland FTW though!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2009, 05:28:56 PM
They did Punta Arenas in AllStars, but everyone knows I am still grieving for Antarctica. :funny:

But JIC Neobie:

The one and only Flight arrival for 12-1 to Easter Island (today has none from Santiago):

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/TAR16EasterIslandarrivals.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redwings8831 on November 30, 2009, 05:30:01 PM
I'm thinking either Argentina/Brazil and then on to Africa (like TAR 2).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: River on November 30, 2009, 05:39:09 PM
I'm thinking either Argentina/Brazil and then on to Africa (like TAR 2).
Maybe we'll get some crazy connections as well.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on November 30, 2009, 05:56:16 PM
Maybe we'll have a Switchback to lose a team en route.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on November 30, 2009, 06:58:15 PM
That will be called a FLASHBACK  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2009, 08:14:30 PM
fijibeachbum has mentioned Easter Island as well some other good ideas.......

Newbie here, just fascinated with the sleuthing end.
After checking many tourist ideas, seems that one of the really interesting things besides Wulff Castle is Fonck Museum of Archeology and Natural History. They can see the Easter Island Muai, the only Muai on South America's mainland. Since it's full of fossils and one of a kind relics (two headed goat was mentioned by one traveler), I could see them having the racers look for something titled in Spanish, where they will then get their next clue. Also, I believe the museum is closed on Mondays, so production may have planned it that way to eliminate other interference? Do they do that?
I hope this is OK to post here. I am not wishing them to go here, just seems plausible with the seemingly limited amount of task things to do here.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2009, 11:16:07 AM
There is a possibility that the next location could be Guayaquil Ecuador.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 01, 2009, 12:23:16 PM
There is a possibility that the next location could be Guayaquil Ecuador.

Somebody wished they'd visit Guayaquil in TAR 17.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2009, 01:19:24 PM
IF they should go there...the nicest thing about Guayaquil is that it is often used as a jumping off place for the Galapagos Islands.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: woden on December 01, 2009, 01:22:01 PM
IF they should go there...the nicest thing about Guayaquil is that it is often used as a jumping off place for the Galapagos Islands.

Would be timely with the buzz re: the 150th anniversary of Origin of Species.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on December 01, 2009, 05:37:52 PM
There is a possibility that the next location could be Guayaquil Ecuador.

Somebody wished they'd visit Guayaquil in TAR 17.  :lol:

that would be me...  :hides
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: b4us on December 01, 2009, 08:48:26 PM
Newbie sleuthing on South Africa (exciting!)as follow-up to Argentina/Brazil:

FIFA Final Draw Day is Friday, December 4th in Cape Town, which means racers would need to leave by SA Wednesday evening.  David Beckham is making an appearance. South African Airways has one nonstop flight departing Buenos Aires Wednesday evening and arriving in Jo-burg the next morning (Thursday).  Numerous flights (and train travel) to Cape Town and lots of tourist/cultural opportunities between the 2 main cities; Robben's Island (just off Capetown coast) part of FIFA events. 

Note: SAA Sao Paulo flight to Jo=burg on Monday, Tuesday only (thus eliminated); SAA Buenos Aires flight on Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday.   Note, I haven't looked at other airline possibilities yet. 

See below SAA timetables and excepts from FIFA.com and FIFA media:

South African Airway timetable, December 1, 2009 to 27 March 2010

From Sao Paulo (SAO) GMT-0200(-0300 from 21Feb)
To Johannesburg (JNB)
34567 1730 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
From 03Mar
34567 1730 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
21Feb - 28Feb
12 1730 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
From 01Mar
12 1730 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
22Feb - 23Feb
34567 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
To 31Jan
34567 1830 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
03Feb - 20Feb
12 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
To 29Dec
12 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
04Jan - 19Jan
12 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
25Jan - 26Jan
12 1830 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
01Feb - 16Feb

From Buenos Aires (BUE) GMT-0300
To Johannesburg (JNB)
357 1830 EZE 0855+1 JNB SA227 342/JY 0

Theron, Beckham and Gebrselassie to star at the Final Draw on 4 December
(FIFA.com) Tuesday 1 December 2009
South Africa’s Academy Award winner Charlize Theron will be the guest presenter assisting FIFA Secretary General Jérôme Valcke during the Final Draw for the 2010 FIFA World Cup™ at the Cape Town International Convention Centre (CTICC) on Friday, 4 December 2009 (19.00 local time/CET+1). They will be joined on stage by a star-studded line-up of sports celebrities, including football star David Beckham (England), one of only a few players to score in at least three consecutive FIFA World Cups, Haile Gebrselassie (Ethiopia), two-time Olympic gold medallist and nine-time athletics world champion, Makhaya Ntini, the first black player in the South African cricket team,  John Smit, the captain of rugby world champions South Africa and Bafana Bafana player Matthew Booth.
Jacob Zuma, President of the Republic of South Africa, and FIFA President Joseph S. Blatter will welcome the audience at the beginning of the 90-minute live show. Guests on the day will include Issa Hayatou, Chairman of the Organising Committee for the FIFA World Cup™, Nobel Peace Prize winners Frederik W. de Klerk and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, as well as former football icons Franz Beckenbauer, Michel Platini, Eusebio and Roger Milla. The majority of the 32 coaches of the qualified teams are expected to be present at the draw. Former South African President and Nobel Peace Prize winner Nelson Mandela, one of the architects of the first African World Cup, will address the audience by video message.
“This is a very important event for football and Africa as the Final Draw comes to Cape Town where an unprecedented six teams from the host continent will be represented. We expect a record global audience which I hope will be glued to their screens for the duration of the show,” said the FIFA Secretary General who will marshal the actual draw.
200 million expected to watch Final Draw
The Final Draw will be beamed live to an estimated audience of more than 200 million people in more than 200 territories. It has attracted unprecedented worldwide interest and an onsite presence of 2,000 invited guests and more than 1,700 media representatives.
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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: b4us on December 01, 2009, 08:53:38 PM
Sorry, yellow obviously is wrong highlight color -- hope red is better

South African Airway timetable, December 1, 2009 to 27 March 2010
How to Use
From Sao Paulo (SAO) GMT-0200(-0300 from 21Feb)
To Johannesburg (JNB)
34567 1730 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
From 03Mar
34567 1730 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
21Feb - 28Feb
12 1730 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
From 01Mar
12 1730 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
22Feb - 23Feb
34567 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
To 31Jan
34567 1830 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
03Feb - 20Feb
12 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
To 29Dec
12 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 346/JY 0
04Jan - 19Jan
12 1830 GRU 0705+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
25Jan - 26Jan
12 1830 GRU 0725+1 JNB SA223 342/JY 0
01Feb - 16Feb

From Buenos Aires (BUE) GMT-0300
To Johannesburg (JNB)
357 1830 EZE 0855+1 JNB SA227 342/JY 0
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2009, 09:52:11 PM
Great job b4us! Appreciate the work!

I do want to say for anyone reading this that at this point NOTHING is confirmed about Johannesburg...this is all pure specualtion. But fingers crossed!! Wouldn't the Victoria Falls bungee make a great switchback??   :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: b4us on December 01, 2009, 10:06:23 PM
Yes, speculative.  Is this the wrong thread?  I can be trained...

And... Brazil departure is feasible since SAA has a Wednesday evening flight on the schedule.   The obvious benefit of SAA is ability to bypass London/Europe, which is about 24 hour flight, compared to direct route. 

South African Airways 223 
Depart: 6:30pm Sao Paulo, Brazil (GRU)
Arrive: 7:05am Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) 

Victoria Falls switchback would be superb!

 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2009, 10:10:25 PM
This is really spec...but  with hints coming from more than one place we have to look hard at it. We'll know in a few days if there is anything to this or not I guess?

and puddin will tidy it up to the right place anyhow. :)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: b4us on December 01, 2009, 10:23:21 PM
   "fingers crossed"
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 01, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
This is really spec...but  with hints coming from more than one place we have to look hard at it. We'll know in a few days if there is anything to this or not I guess?

and puddin will tidy it up to the right place anyhow. :)
yeah, theres nothing I love more and I have nothing else to do
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Dånooky on December 01, 2009, 10:51:10 PM
This is really spec...but  with hints coming from more than one place we have to look hard at it. We'll know in a few days if there is anything to this or not I guess?

and puddin will tidy it up to the right place anyhow. :)
yeah, theres nothing I love more and I have nothing else to do
we love you, puddin
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Sightings/Info: Tweets Go here please!
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 02, 2009, 09:25:22 PM
I found a tweet from Cronicalibre (Programa televisio internacional "The Amazing Race" grabo capitulos en Puerto Varas.  Puerto Varas is in Chile, near Puerto Monte.  So a 2nd Chilean leg then.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Sightings/Info: Tweets Go here please!
Post by: Sailing on December 02, 2009, 09:45:46 PM
http://www.cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/thumbs/aHR0cDovL2Nyb25pY2FsaWJyZS5jbC9pbWFnZXMvc3Rvcmllcy9ub3RpY2lhcy9ub3ZpZW1icmUwOS9maWxtYWNpb24xLmpwZw==.jpg

picture to fist team eliminated?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Sightings/Info: Tweets Go here please!
Post by: Slowhatch on December 02, 2009, 09:47:40 PM
Great find! The article (http://www.cronicalibre.cl/index.php/locales/2234-programa-televisivo-internacional-qthe-amazing-raceq-grabo-capitulos-en-puerto-varas-y-zonas-cercanas) (slow to load) includes mat pictures as well. Puerto Varas is a pretty little town just north of Puerto Montt (they used the airport again, I'm sure), with outstanding views across the lake to Volcan Osorno.
Quote
Despite the secrecy with which they tried to carry out the recordings of "The Amazing Race" broadcast on CBS managed to capture some images of the alleged couple eliminated from this competition.
Evidence of this competition that took place in the lake district of Puerto Varas, had the locations of sites Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavista, to finish the recordings in the traditional grotto of Puerto Varas.

Punto deserves the fact that during the recording of the number transmitted through the cable, it was very difficult to capture images because the attitude of the production was to intimidate the press by sending different people to cover and follow the One who walked with camera although the recordings were carried out in a public place. Even in a fairly hostile people told him that it was a private recording, which ironically took place in a public place

 This program won 8 Emmy Awards, hosted by Phil Keoghan is a sort of reality competition, where couples are eliminated (11) throughout adult competition
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Sightings/Info: Tweets Go here please!
Post by: YY on December 02, 2009, 09:55:46 PM
http://www.cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/thumbs/aHR0cDovL2Nyb25pY2FsaWJyZS5jbC9pbWFnZXMvc3Rvcmllcy9ub3RpY2lhcy9ub3ZpZW1icmUwOS9maWxtYWNpb24xLmpwZw==.jpg

picture to fist team eliminated?

Excellent find!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Sightings/Info: Tweets Go here please!
Post by: kittygoesmeow on December 02, 2009, 10:01:34 PM
I don't know why, but that looks like a guy to me. And he doesn't look old enough to be her grandfather. I really think that it is a father/daughter team.

Or is this set in stone that they are in fact that team?

Give me a few to compare it to the picture posted in the contestant thread. And do y'all think this is the second leg elimination? ETA: Sorry, Sailing beat me to the last part, lol.

I'm gonna move the discussion to the contestant spoiler thread.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on December 02, 2009, 10:12:53 PM
Here it is.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2405/1974143477_e406c24b5b_o.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-77.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Sightings/Info: Tweets Go here please!
Post by: Slowhatch on December 02, 2009, 10:13:31 PM
The fountain next to the mat (in the second photo; I can't bring it over) looks like the one in Lourdes Grotto (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sibila/411527272/) next to the church. Notice the Huaso greeter taking a break.  :lol:

Ack, nvm; Neobie found it in the other thread.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 02, 2009, 10:20:20 PM
Great job Neobie! So this is definitely our second leg!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2009, 10:40:13 PM
Great job Neobie! So this is definitely our second leg!

Not sure we  know that kiwi...we coulld technically be up to our third, if no >12 hour Pitstops. Does the article SAY WHEN this was??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 02, 2009, 10:42:18 PM
Dec 1st peach
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 02, 2009, 10:42:54 PM
Great job Neobie! So this is definitely our second leg!

Not sure we  know that kiwi...we coulld technically be up to our third, if no >12 hour Pitstops. Does the article SAY WHEN this was??

I believe that teams had to arrive in Puerto Montt on December 1. 12 hours or 36 hour pit-stop depends on whether the teams took a long-distance bus. The plane ride takes 2 hours from Santiago.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: YY on December 02, 2009, 10:44:59 PM
Great job Neobie! So this is definitely our second leg!

Not sure we  know that kiwi...we coulld technically be up to our third, if no >12 hour Pitstops. Does the article SAY WHEN this was??

I believe that there was a 36-hour pitstop, so that Phil could film in Valparaiso. Thus, leg 2 would have began on December 1.

You believe, or did you hear for sure or even presumed?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Ryan83 on December 02, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
ok devils advocate here. lets say this was dec 1. and lets say they finished at 2pm in the afternoon (just a random number) that means at 2 am today the second they would have gotten on a plane to go somewhere else. So my question to peach and puddin how can I check day old flight logs from PV. so that we can maybe see where they would be going and or have already landed at
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 02, 2009, 11:17:34 PM
on hold
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2009, 11:28:57 PM
Neobie is tracking that..y'all let him do it please.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2009, 11:29:25 PM
ok devils advocate here. lets say this was dec 1. and lets say they finished at 2pm in the afternoon (just a random number) that means at 2 am today the second they would have gotten on a plane to go somewhere else. So my question to peach and puddin how can I check day old flight logs from PV. so that we can maybe see where they would be going and or have already landed at

checking now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 02, 2009, 11:30:37 PM
Onces Bellavista (http://www.oncesbellavista.cl/index.php?id=5) is up the road near Ensenada (wasn't an earlier pit stop near here?). Here's an explanation (http://eatwineblog.com/2009/06/22/tea-time-in-chile-onces/) of onces. But Isla Margarita (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7614900) is just a little rock in the middle of Todos Los Santos.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 03, 2009, 12:27:23 AM
ok devils advocate here. lets say this was dec 1. and lets say they finished at 2pm in the afternoon (just a random number) that means at 2 am today the second they would have gotten on a plane to go somewhere else. So my question to peach and puddin how can I check day old flight logs from PV. so that we can maybe see where they would be going and or have already landed at

checking now.

Punta Veras = no flights

Punta Montt (been here before :lol) most flights to Santiago and Puenta Arenas. From Santiago, they can go anywhere...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2009, 06:42:41 AM
(wasn't an earlier pit stop near here?).

Yes Slowhatch. In TAR11 AllStars, there was a pit stop in the same area, at Playa Petrohue. IIRC, it's where David and Mary got eliminated and the Beauty Queens had to go back and get a clue, before Phil would check them in.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: docol on December 03, 2009, 08:31:52 AM
hey you guys...i found some true evidences of teams on chile.....They were at Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavistas...the Pit Stop was at The Puerto Varas Gruta.

Here are some pictures of the first eliminated team...a male/female team.........

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion1.jpg

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion2.jpg
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: kittygoesmeow on December 03, 2009, 09:02:40 AM
hey you guys...i found some true evidences of teams on chile.....They were at Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavistas...the Pit Stop was at The Puerto Varas Gruta.

Here are some pictures of the first eliminated team...a male/female team.........

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion1.jpg

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion2.jpg

About 10 hours ahead of you  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: YY on December 03, 2009, 09:10:08 AM
hey you guys...i found some true evidences of teams on chile.....They were at Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavistas...the Pit Stop was at The Puerto Varas Gruta.

Here are some pictures of the first eliminated team...a male/female team.........

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion1.jpg

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion2.jpg

About 10 hours ahead of you  :lol:

First eliminated team or second?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: docol on December 03, 2009, 09:39:07 AM
hey you guys...i found some true evidences of teams on chile.....They were at Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavistas...the Pit Stop was at The Puerto Varas Gruta.

Here are some pictures of the first eliminated team...a male/female team.........

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion1.jpg

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion2.jpg

About 10 hours ahead of you  :lol:

First eliminated team or second?

It's the first one eliminated........!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: YY on December 03, 2009, 09:46:33 AM
hey you guys...i found some true evidences of teams on chile.....They were at Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavistas...the Pit Stop was at The Puerto Varas Gruta.

Here are some pictures of the first eliminated team...a male/female team.........

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion1.jpg

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion2.jpg

About 10 hours ahead of you  :lol:

First eliminated team or second?

It's the first one eliminated........!!!!!!!

So wait, the first leg of the race was like 3-4 days long without a pit stop? Wasn't that picture taken December 1st and if so, that's a really really long leg!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 03, 2009, 09:57:26 AM
hey you guys...i found some true evidences of teams on chile.....They were at Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavistas...the Pit Stop was at The Puerto Varas Gruta.

Here are some pictures of the first eliminated team...a male/female team.........

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion1.jpg

http://cronicalibre.cl/images/stories/noticias/noviembre09/filmacion2.jpg

About 10 hours ahead of you  :lol:

First eliminated team or second?

It's the first one eliminated........!!!!!!!

Thanks for sharing docol!

We had that info, but could you explain what you mean by "first one eliminated" please? Do you know more than what the article or pisture suggests?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 03, 2009, 01:00:21 PM
Blog find

Valparaiso
The Amazing Race came to town - we spent a whole lunchtime in a waiting for the couples to come running by chased by their out of breath cameraman and soundman. It was funny (in a slightly cruel way) to see the teams that went down streets that none of the others had chosen. Losers. How we laughed as we sipped our beers.

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-78.jpg)
(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-79.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: woden on December 03, 2009, 01:09:56 PM
Blog find

Valparaiso
The Amazing Race came to town - we spent a whole lunchtime in a waiting for the couples to come running by chased by their out of breath cameraman and soundman. It was funny (in a slightly cruel way) to see the teams that went down streets that none of the others had chosen. Losers. How we laughed as we sipped our beers.


Looks like Cardonal Market (http://natalislangvalpo.blogspot.com/).

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-80.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 03, 2009, 01:15:46 PM
your fast, thanks woden!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: woden on December 03, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Not sure I'm seeing anything TAR in these pictures though?  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: chill_sd on December 03, 2009, 02:31:11 PM
Those pictures were taken 11/29, so they must have seen the teams shortly after arrival in Valparaiso.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 03, 2009, 04:20:53 PM
"The Amazing Race" and part left Chile to Bariloche, Argentina
Thursday, 03 of Diciembre 2009 19:00   .

The next destination of the recordings on the American television series "The Amazing Race" would be the trans-Andean city of Bariloche, where the powers would continue to see which pair wins the famed reality-competition that is taking place in South America.
However, in people liked watching the tapes of the series the way it was characterized to a Chilean huaso course, that is, cowboy hat, jeans and rubber boots next to a small sheep.

Moreover, and as yesterday showed the photograph to reveal the couple eliminated from competition, a lady of about 70 years with a young woman, after the tests were conducted in the lake district of Puerto Varas.

 The difference regarding the version of the series currently being filmed is that they would be recording American competition and not the American version. This would be supported primarily because the driver for the Latin version is Harry Whitbeck, while the series in its American version is hosted by Phil Keoghan, who appears in the photo next to the alleged couple eliminated.

http://www.lacuencadellago.cl/web/

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-81.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: graytex on December 03, 2009, 04:23:07 PM
Follow up to puddin's post.  http://cronicalibre.cl/index.php/locales/2234-programa-televisivo-internacional-qthe-amazing-raceq-grabo-capitulos-en-puerto-varas-y-zonas-cercanas (http://cronicalibre.cl/index.php/locales/2234-programa-televisivo-internacional-qthe-amazing-raceq-grabo-capitulos-en-puerto-varas-y-zonas-cercanas)

Despite the secrecy with which they tried to carry out the recordings of "The Amazing Race" broadcast on CBS managed to capture some images of the alleged couple eliminated from this competition.
Evidence of this competition that took place in the lake district of Puerto Varas, had the locations of sites Petrohué, Isla Margarita and Onces Bellavista, to finish the recordings in the traditional grotto of Puerto Varas.

Punto deserves the fact that during the recording of the number transmitted through the cable, it was very difficult to capture images because the attitude of the production was to intimidate the press by sending different people to cover and follow the One who walked with camera although the recordings were carried out in a public place. Even in a fairly hostile people told him that it was a private recording, which ironically took place in a public place

 This program won 8 Emmy Awards, hosted by Phil Keoghan is a sort of reality competition, where couples are eliminated (11) as competition goes.

(http://i47.[banned image hosting site].com/4g1bv4.jpg)

(http://i46.[banned image hosting site].com/2ikxhzt.jpg)

Can you relate to the intimidation, Chateau?   :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 03, 2009, 04:28:31 PM
Thats already posted graytex, Lord knows where though  :lol:  .. everyone is all over the place!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 03, 2009, 04:37:29 PM
Found another Facebook post:

It says 5 hours ago (so around 7pm EST?  which is 9pm in Chile?) Jeremiah Kent posted:
Totes ran into the Amazing Race today on the way to Bariloche, gave a team my map, now i don't know where the [bleep] i am. Hope everyones having fun getting ready for 3 nights of MSG... [bleep]ers =)

[had to clean it up a bit!]

He has a blog (http://earthtojebber.com/) that says he's currently in Bariloche.  So I'm not sure if the TAR team was also on their way to Bariloche, or if he was on his way to Bariloche when he was approached by the team.   A recent tweet (http://twitter.com/jebberz) says:
Walked round Santiago, Chile yesterday, took a night bus to Oserno, and now waiting to cross the the Alps and the border to Bariloche, Arg

So he could have run into the TAR team on the night bus to Oserno, or where he's waiting to cross the Alps, or maybe anywhere in between?  BTW, that tweet was 17 hours ago...

(and is TAR LA filming right now?)






The same bus to Orsono continues to Puerto Varas (+60min) and to Puerto Montt (+90min)...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 03, 2009, 05:14:09 PM
"The Amazing Race" and part left Chile to Bariloche, Argentina
Thursday, 03 of Diciembre 2009 19:00   .

The next destination of the recordings on the American television series "The Amazing Race" would be the trans-Andean city of Bariloche, where the powers would continue to see which pair wins the famed reality-competition that is taking place in South America.
However, in people liked watching the tapes of the series the way it was characterized to a Chilean huaso course, that is, cowboy hat, jeans and rubber boots next to a small sheep.

Moreover, and as yesterday showed the photograph to reveal the couple eliminated from competition, a lady of about 70 years with a young woman, after the tests were conducted in the lake district of Puerto Varas.

 The difference regarding the version of the series currently being filmed is that they would be recording American competition and not the American version. This would be supported primarily because the driver for the Latin version is Harry Whitbeck, while the series in its American version is hosted by Phil Keoghan, who appears in the photo next to the alleged couple eliminated.

http://www.lacuencadellago.cl/web/

NOOOO....why does the granny always have to go out so early?  :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: graytex on December 03, 2009, 05:35:03 PM
Thats already posted graytex, Lord knows where though  :lol:  .. everyone is all over the place!

I see that now...doh!   :-[
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Ryan83 on December 03, 2009, 10:22:07 PM
"IF" the teams are going to Arg. then I was thinking they could take a boat trip across the lakes and andes. which would take them right into Bariloche, Argentina. Right of the coast line there is this...
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/10641949
seems like a historical place to get there first clue before going deep into the city, what do you think?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: fijibeachbum on December 03, 2009, 10:25:14 PM
I think it's plausible, but didn't we see a tweet where someone saw racers or gave them a map near or on the busline?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Ryan83 on December 03, 2009, 10:39:34 PM
IF they are in Arg. all flighst leaving BRC airport are all to Buenos Aires. So if they are there and they leave tonight they would have to have connect thru BA. Assuming I looked it up correctly.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on December 04, 2009, 07:58:02 AM
Got it - I've got a friend in Bariloche who can give evidence suggesting that the racers are there and leaving today/tonight.

If only we have someone in Buenos Aires' airport waiting as a welcome party...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 04, 2009, 01:06:50 PM
It has to be:
Leg 1: Valparaiso-Santiago (12 teams, 1 eliminated)
Leg 2: Santiago-Puento Varas (11 teams, Grandmother/Granddaughter eliminated)
Leg 3: Puento Varas-Bariloche,Argentina (10 teams, 1 eliminated)
Leg 4: Bariloche-Buenos Aires,Argentina (9 teams, 1 eliminated)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: woden on December 04, 2009, 01:09:37 PM
It has to be:
Leg 1: Valparaiso-Santiago (12 teams, 1 eliminated)
Leg 2: Santiago-Puento Varas (11 teams, Grandmother/Granddaughter eliminated)
Leg 3: Puento Varas-Bariloche,Argentina (10 teams, 1 eliminated)
Leg 4: Bariloche-Buenos Aires,Argentina (9 teams, 1 eliminated)


Not if Buenos Aires is only a connecting point to another continent, which is my guess. I doubt they'd stay in Chile for two eps, then Argentina for two eps. They've got to get this thing moving.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Macaroons on December 04, 2009, 09:38:35 PM
N/m
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on December 04, 2009, 10:53:08 PM
.......
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Dånooky on December 04, 2009, 11:37:03 PM
Actually, there is one:

www.flightstats.co.uk

though I think it doesn't offer real-time tracking, it shows all departures and arrivals upto a week in advance
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Moo on December 05, 2009, 12:50:44 AM
It has to be:
Leg 1: Valparaiso-Santiago (12 teams, 1 eliminated)
Leg 2: Santiago-Puento Varas (11 teams, Grandmother/Granddaughter eliminated)
Leg 3: Puento Varas-Bariloche,Argentina (10 teams, 1 eliminated)
Leg 4: Bariloche-Buenos Aires,Argentina (9 teams, 1 eliminated)


Not if Buenos Aires is only a connecting point to another continent, which is my guess. I doubt they'd stay in Chile for two eps, then Argentina for two eps. They've got to get this thing moving.

OMG, Please no, I'm sick of Chile-Argentina combos since Season 7.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Macaroons on December 05, 2009, 08:52:52 AM
Keep up the great work, everyone!  :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 05, 2009, 01:54:32 PM
This race is giving me a TAR 7 vibe...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 05, 2009, 04:06:40 PM
This race is giving me a TAR 7 vibe...

Its what they are going for I think, wouldnt be surprised if episode 5 is in South Africa
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 05, 2009, 04:18:09 PM
Sounds like spec to me, back on topic please or take it to spec.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 07, 2009, 10:24:10 AM
As of yet unconfirmed by a second sighting - teams may be in Paraguay...

Thanks to Polarbear for finding the tweets!

See the tweets from this person - diureticalorder - who saw production people and flags in the airport as they waited for a flight to Montevideo Uruguay.
Flight from ASU to Monte at 1:20 pm PU 704 - they left before the teams arrived so looking at teams on these flights arriving ASU:

Santiago PZ 709 4:40
Buenos Aires AR 1274 4:50
Ciudad del Este PZ 707 5:10
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on December 07, 2009, 10:29:20 AM
so if the sighting is true, we have:
Leg 1: Santiago/Valparaiso, Chile
Leg 2: Puerto Montt/Puerto Varas, Chile
Leg 3: Bariloche, Argentina
Leg 4: Ascuncion, Paraguay
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on December 07, 2009, 10:43:03 AM
As of yet unconfirmed by a second sighting - teams may be in Paraguay...

Thanks to Polarbear for finding the tweets!

See the tweets from this person - diureticalorder - who saw production people and flags in the airport as they waited for a flight to Montevideo Uruguay.
Flight from ASU to Monte at 1:20 pm PU 704 - they left before the teams arrived so looking at teams on these flights arriving ASU:

Santiago PZ 709 4:40
Buenos Aires AR 1274 4:50
Ciudad del Este PZ 707 5:10


Her last tweets was after she arrived home in Montevideo, UR...so she had to be on the earlier flight......the 0920 flight  PU 706.  So were they entering Paraguay or leaving???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Polarbear on December 07, 2009, 10:45:06 AM
http://www.anbariloche.com.ar/noticia.php?nota=11904

Article from Bariloche. Some clues to what they visited and where they will go next (Germany)?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 07, 2009, 10:55:40 AM
As of yet unconfirmed by a second sighting - teams may be in Paraguay...

Thanks to Polarbear for finding the tweets!

See the tweets from this person - diureticalorder - who saw production people and flags in the airport as they waited for a flight to Montevideo Uruguay.
Flight from ASU to Monte at 1:20 pm PU 704 - they left before the teams arrived so looking at teams on these flights arriving ASU:

Santiago PZ 709 4:40
Buenos Aires AR 1274 4:50
Ciudad del Este PZ 707 5:10


Her last tweets was after she arrived home in Montevideo, UR...so she had to be on the earlier flight......the 0920 flight  PU 706.  So were they entering Paraguay or leaving???

You're right - got confused by the time difference - so we could include these incoming flights to Paraguay as well:
EZE Buenos Aires PZ 702 10:20 AM?
VVI Santa Cruz    5L 756  12:00 PM
CWB Curitiba    G3 7470 12:20
EZE Buenos Aires G3 7471 3:55

I think the teams would be arriving in Paraguay - don't think they would have TAR flags set up otherwise - although I guess they could be leaving Paraguay and the flags tell them where to enter the airport.  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 07, 2009, 11:33:41 AM
Leg 4: Ascuncion, Paraguay

Well, that would be the last non-Caribbean bordering South American country that TAR has not visited.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 07, 2009, 11:38:21 AM
diureticalorder/Amy is very nice, she only saw crews



 the tv crew(s)? they were certainly western and english speaking...idk though.

if this helps, my friend and i assumed the crew were expecting people from BA...that's where the ticket agent assumed i was going

it was almost like some staff (w/o equipment) had been waiting inside security while cameramen/women & sound people were outside

 i didnt c ne1 who seemed 2ba team. the crew had walkie talkies & seemed disinterested such that the racers(?) prolly werent there
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 07, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
more from Amy

my friend spoke to an older man from BA about what was up. he saw crappy  cars lined up with decals(?)-lost in translation
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on December 07, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Thanks puddin........I suspect you are much more diplomatic in contacting Amy. I didnt try to.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on December 07, 2009, 12:33:28 PM
The Bariloche leg, I believe, took place on 3 Dec. That means that Asuncion, if it takes place today, cannot be Leg 4. If confirmed, it most likely would be the fifth leg. Speculation: fourth leg in Buenos Aires then?

Agreeing with DrRox on the flight Amy was on. If she was in the Asuncion airport headed to Uruguay seven hours ago (it is now 2.30pm in Asuncion), the flight she was taking was probably PU 706 to Montevideo, departing at 9.20am. Asuncion Intl only has one concourse for arriving and departing flights, so it is entirely possible that the crew was waiting for arrivals while Amy was leaving.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: mariamindy on December 07, 2009, 12:52:56 PM
I found this post, although, someone else posted it before but... it says that after Bariloche, the race will go to GERMANY.
Does it make any sense???

http://www.anbariloche.com.ar/noticia.php?nota=11904

Cite:
*** "La ciudad vuelve a ser escenario de mega producciones para televisión internacional", se destacó desde el EMPROTUR. The Amazing Race grabó una de las etapas en San Carlos de Bariloche, antes de continuar en Alemania" ***

Translation:
*** The city becomes, once again, the scenario of a mega production for international television, noticed from the EMPROTUR (a local turistic challenge). The Amazing Race recorded one of its legs in San Carlos de Bariloche, before departing to Germany.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 09, 2009, 02:46:30 AM
Follow up Bariloche (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.portaltaringa.com/noticias/4105713/The_Amazing_Race_film%25C3%25B3_en_Bariloche.html&ei=bWAfS5K4OoiWtgf07OWZCg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBsQ7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Damazing%2Brace%2Bbariloche%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4DKUS_enUS306US306%26tbo%3D1%26tbs%3Dqdr:d)


Leopoldo Tiberi, responsible for communication of Tourism Promotion Combined Entity (Emprotur) from Bariloche, stressed that the implementation is an enormous promotional value. "

The Amazing Race (The Great Race), reality show competition of the American CBS network broadcast worldwide, recorded one of the stages in Bariloche, before continuing the filming in Germany, said the tourist promotional agency of the city .

The filming was done days ago on location on el río Limay River
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rio-limay-foto1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 09, 2009, 02:55:37 AM
I agree Germany is looking better than the Paraguay sighting, its a gut feeling.

Would Leopoldo Tiberi  lie?  :lol:

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-82.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 09, 2009, 10:16:42 AM
I don't believe in Paraguay midway through the race.
Surely they should be in Africa right now (hence the fewer sightings?).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 09, 2009, 11:57:18 AM
Thanks, Puddin. The site (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=-40.809002,-71.119695&spn=0.017281,0.027466&t=h&z=15) in the photo is south of the estancia (http://wikimapia.org/6313259/es/Estancia-Chacabuco), so maybe the ranch is the pit stop.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 09, 2009, 12:22:19 PM
okay so they ran through San Diego. start line in ??......

"Ooh- cool, it's the 'Amazing Race' filming in the Union Station"
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/102_3767.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 09, 2009, 12:25:29 PM
Thanks, Puddin. The site (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=-40.809002,-71.119695&spn=0.017281,0.027466&t=h&z=15) in the photo is south of the estancia (http://wikimapia.org/6313259/es/Estancia-Chacabuco), so maybe the ranch is the pit stop.
Thanks Slowhatch  :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on December 09, 2009, 12:28:12 PM
San Diego? Where did that come from? *lost again*

Union Station's where you catch the bus to LAX (http://www.lawa.org/welcome_LAX.aspx?id=292) though...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: YY on December 09, 2009, 12:34:14 PM
San Diego? Where did that come from? *lost again*

Union Station's where you catch the bus to LAX (http://www.lawa.org/welcome_LAX.aspx?id=292) though...

Probably from the start of the race.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: chill_sd on December 09, 2009, 12:41:42 PM
Ooh, I'll be disappointed if they took the train from Santa Fe station in San Diego to Union Station in LA, and I wasn't there to see it.  (:;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 09, 2009, 12:45:52 PM
San Diego? Where did that come from? *lost again*

Union Station's where you catch the bus to LAX (http://www.lawa.org/welcome_LAX.aspx?id=292) though...

Probably from the start of the race.
  :lol: :lol: ya think YY?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 09, 2009, 01:12:57 PM
 :lol:  well, Union Station is in downtown L.A.   :groan:  So why were they seen way over by the Marriott, when they could have grabbed a cab right outside the station to get to LAX?  ...I don't think Light Rail goes to the airport yet

here's a 360 pano (http://www.360cities.net/image/los-angeles-union-station-in-los-angeles-usa)  showing the arrivals/departure/ticketing area of Union Station (requires a zoom in)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-83.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2009, 01:31:16 PM
okay so they ran through San Diego. start line in ??......

"Ooh- cool, it's the 'Amazing Race' filming in the Union Station"


Puzzled here too....where does San Diego come in?? ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 09, 2009, 01:42:24 PM
No San Diego.  It's definitely LA's Union Station.  Neobie has been there.  Me too.


:lol:  well, Union Station is in downtown L.A.   :groan:  So why were they seen way over by the Marriott, when they could have grabbed a cab right outside the station to get to LAX?  ...I don't think Light Rail goes to the airport yet

here's a 360 pano (http://www.360cities.net/image/los-angeles-union-station-in-los-angeles-usa)  showing the arrivals/departure/ticketing area of Union Station (requires a zoom in)

Like Neobie said, there is the Flyaway bus.  I use it to get to LAX.  When I'm not trying to break records.  It's a great bargain versus taxis.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 09, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
Puddin, When was the shot taken?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 09, 2009, 02:05:11 PM
No San Diego.  It's definitely LA's Union Station.  Neobie has been there.  Me too.


:lol:  well, Union Station is in downtown L.A.   :groan:  So why were they seen way over by the Marriott, when they could have grabbed a cab right outside the station to get to LAX?  ...I don't think Light Rail goes to the airport yet

here's a 360 pano (http://www.360cities.net/image/los-angeles-union-station-in-los-angeles-usa)  showing the arrivals/departure/ticketing area of Union Station (requires a zoom in)

Like Neobie said, there is the Flyaway bus.  I use it to get to LAX.  When I'm not trying to break records.  It's a great bargain versus taxis.

Even better if they made the teams take the metro to LAX (Green line - Aviation station). I've done it - there's a 2 minute shuttle to LAX from the metro station.
So Red Line to Blue Line to Green line. If teams went the wrong way from the Marriot area on the Red line they end up at Union station
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 09, 2009, 02:14:32 PM

Even better if they made the teams take the metro to LAX (Green line - Aviation station). I've done it - there's a 2 minute shuttle to LAX from the metro station.
So Red Line to Blue Line to Green line. If teams went the wrong way from the Marriot area on the Red line they end up at Union station

 :colors  cool!... this calls for a map (http://www.newciv.org/pic/nl/artpic/10/1837/System_Map.jpg)   :lol:

...so let's see, that was red line to blue line to green line... who's on first... I don't know... THIRD BASE!  :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 09, 2009, 02:19:08 PM
This is going to be fun!

It's a genuine "Make your way to the airport"

a)  ask for a ride  (this was reported)
b)  bus  (maybe Flyaway from Union Station)
c)  metro (maybe Red, Blue, Green, etc.)
d)  taxi  

Taxi?  Teams had enough cash to do a taxi.  I saw $100 bill plus more being exchanged at LAX for Chilean Pesos.  The average exchange rate of the Chilean Peso to the U.S Dollar was 1 U.S. Dollar to 522.46 Chilean Pesos in 2008 (wikipedia).

This shot was taken near the main entrance to Union Station.  The direction the Mompeneaurs are headed is consistent with entering at the front and going back to the Metro and Flyaway locations.  You would not need to go to where the shot was taken if you were arriving at Union Station by Metro.  You would just stay in the Metro area and transfer to the Blue line.

Or they could be lost in Union Station.   :lol:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/102_3767.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 09, 2009, 02:47:29 PM
This is going to be fun!

It's a genuine "Make your way to the airport"

a)  ask for a ride  (this was reported)
b)  bus  (maybe Flyaway from Union Station)
c)  metro (maybe Red, Blue, Green, etc.)
d)  taxi  

Taxi?  Teams had enough cash to do a taxi.  I saw $100 bill plus more being exchanged at LAX for Chilean Pesos.  The average exchange rate of the Chilean Peso to the U.S Dollar was 1 U.S. Dollar to 522.46 Chilean Pesos in 2008 (wikipedia).

This shot was taken near the main entrance to Union Station.  The direction the Mompeneaurs are headed is consistent with entering at the front and going back to the Metro and Flyaway locations.  You would not need to go to where the shot was taken if you were arriving at Union Station by Metro.  You would just stay in the Metro area and transfer to the Blue line.

Or they could be lost in Union Station.   :lol:

Hate to disagree with with a native - but the Blue line doesn't go to Union Station - only the Red and Purple - and no one wants to take the scary Purple line.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 09, 2009, 02:50:17 PM
:lol:  well, Union Station is in downtown L.A.   :groan:  So why were they seen way over by the Marriott, when they could have grabbed a cab right outside the station to get to LAX?  ...I don't think Light Rail goes to the airport yet

here's a 360 pano (http://www.360cities.net/image/los-angeles-union-station-in-los-angeles-usa)  showing the arrivals/departure/ticketing area of Union Station (requires a zoom in)
Gotcha  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 09, 2009, 02:50:50 PM
This is going to be fun!

It's a genuine "Make your way to the airport"

a)  ask for a ride  (this was reported)
b)  bus  (maybe Flyaway from Union Station)
c)  metro (maybe Red, Blue, Green, etc.)
d)  taxi  

Taxi?  Teams had enough cash to do a taxi.  I saw $100 bill plus more being exchanged at LAX for Chilean Pesos.  The average exchange rate of the Chilean Peso to the U.S Dollar was 1 U.S. Dollar to 522.46 Chilean Pesos in 2008 (wikipedia).

This shot was taken near the main entrance to Union Station.  The direction the Mompeneaurs are headed is consistent with entering at the front and going back to the Metro and Flyaway locations.  You would not need to go to where the shot was taken if you were arriving at Union Station by Metro.  You would just stay in the Metro area and transfer to the Blue line.

Or they could be lost in Union Station.   :lol:

Hate to disagree with with a native - but the Blue line doesn't go to Union Station - only the Red and Purple - and no one wants to take the scary Purple line.
added - Forgot the orange line...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 09, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Oh yeah, no Blue line at Union Station.  So if they arrived on the Red Line then they are lost looking for the Blue line.  I'm betting that they arrived on foot and are making their way to the Flyaway bus.

Here is a look at Union Station

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-84.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 09, 2009, 02:59:56 PM
 :lol: Just a coincidence, but The Amazing L.A. Race (http://www.goldstar.com/events/hollywood-ca/the-amazing-los-angeles-race.html?expired=true) had an event in downtown L.A. that same day, only at 11:00AM.  Our racers were probably long gone by then.   ;D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 09, 2009, 03:08:09 PM
and Purple - and no one wants to take the scary Purple line.

 :ascared  but it parellels the Red line, except for Wilshire/Normandie and Wilshire/Western stations...   :lol:  who knew Koreatown was so scary....  :knuckles:  :snicker:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 09, 2009, 04:10:51 PM
Oh yeah, no Blue line at Union Station.  So if they arrived on the Red Line then they are lost looking for the Blue line.  I'm betting that they arrived on foot and are making their way to the Flyaway bus.

Here is a look at Union Station

Not even enough budget for car rentals?  :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on December 09, 2009, 04:20:57 PM
Oh yeah, no Blue line at Union Station.  So if they arrived on the Red Line then they are lost looking for the Blue line.  I'm betting that they arrived on foot and are making their way to the Flyaway bus.

Here is a look at Union Station

Not even enough budget for car rentals?  :'(

On the contrary, if public transport freedom is true I will shower the producers with kisses. About time! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: anon1akacolby on December 09, 2009, 04:33:07 PM
Wow!  This is interesting if they had to take public transportation to LAX instead of the usual "drive yourself".  It is definitely different.....especially considering all the seasons that have started out of LA.....finally something different!

So are we to assume that the starting line is somewhere in downtown LA?  (do we know the starting location yet? I don't recall reading that)

Taking the Metro from Union Station isn't that difficult and could be quick.  From Union station, you'd have to take the Red Line or Purple Line to downtown (a couple of stops away I believe), transfer to the blue line, transfer to the green line, exit at Aviation, and take a free shuttle to the airport.    It could be a good alternative to driving/taking a taxi, during busy hours on the freeway.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: ZBC Company on December 09, 2009, 04:44:44 PM
season 6 dont he cars
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 09, 2009, 04:54:29 PM
season 6 dont he cars

There was a direct subway to the airport.
It will be awesome to see how teams get there w/o cars.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on December 09, 2009, 05:31:51 PM
The question now is how does this fit with teams running past the LA downtown Marriott?

But I agree that making the teams navigate without cars to LAX from whereever the start line was would be a real surprise to the teams....most or all of whom had probably memorized all the possible expressway routes to LAX (and to Park One,  the show's favorite offsite parking for LAX).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 09, 2009, 05:58:47 PM
This shot was taken at 5:12 pm (assumes December 1st).

Don't worry about what it is a shot of.  I just need to know what time the camera thought it was!

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-85.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 09, 2009, 06:10:41 PM
01 Dec  05:39 A.M. (timezone not specified).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: kimj on December 09, 2009, 06:50:55 PM
who took the picture and where.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: 2old4tech on December 09, 2009, 07:03:23 PM
I posted this stuff back on 11-28.  Tying Caper's film permit (Close the 2nd St tunnel)(get permit under a different name than WRP, to throw off RFF) with the sightings near the Downtown hotels and the "asked for a ride", but never posted my spec tying it together.

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Quote from: 2old4tech on November 28, 2009, 07:28:35 PM


...and if you exit the tunnel at Hill, turn left and go one block to the Civic Center Station (Metro).

Once at Civic Center Staton take either of the two lines (Red or Purple) one stop to Union Station.  Once there it's...
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Now there’s a fast, affordable
connection between Downtown
LA and LAX that’s easy to reach
from Metro Rail, Metro Bus,
Metrolink and Amtrak. Try the
new Union Station FlyAway.
FlyAway buses run 24 hours a day (every
30 minutes from 5 am to 1 am, and each
hour from 1 am to 5 am). The buses leave
from Bay 9 of the Patsaouras Transit Plaza
adjacent to Union Station via the East Portal.
> Tickets are $3 one-way ($2 each way for
children 2-12). Purchase tickets before you
board at the FlyAway kiosk in the Patsaouras
Transit Plaza. Note: Metro Passes are not
valid on this service.

Press release when the service started estimated 45 minute trip non-stop to LAX.  I don't live there, so don't know if this is accurate or even if this a good time for a Saturday late AM trip.  But it would mean no expensive rental cars and no driving. 
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Quote from: 2old4tech on November 28, 2009, 06:37:19 PM

Turn left on Figuero Street as soon as you exit the 2nd Street Tunnel.  Hotel is about a block and a half.

...and if you exit the tunnel at Hill, turn left and go one block to the Civic Center Station (Metro).
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Didn't see this anywhere, so...

From Caper's find upthread:
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COMMUNI- Film L.A. Inc. #1, requesting Board grant @Radical
CATIONS Media, Inc. permission to close 2nd Street tunnel from
Hill Street to Figueroa Street on Saturday and Sunday,
November 28-29, 2009 from 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
for filming purposes

and the Downtown Mariott sighting...

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Marriott Hotels Resorts Suites: Los Angeles Downtown Marriott‎unstarred - more info »
333 South Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, CA‎

Turn left on Figuero Street as soon as you exit the 2nd Street Tunnel.  Hotel is about a block and a half.

I think they started in the closed tunnel (away from Chateau's prying eyes and were told to make their way to Chile (so LAX).  We have the photo from union station that implies at least one team took public transportation.  I think they are headed for the Flyaway.

This is pretty speculative I know, but I'm going with it until better evidence comes along.  Puddin, please fell free to move this the spec thread if that's best.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: 2old4tech on December 09, 2009, 07:14:16 PM
and here's a map, provided I did the attachment right (see screen name :lol:)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-87.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 09, 2009, 07:16:20 PM
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who took the picture and where
The same person that took the Union Station shot. The where is unimportant, it's an attempt to pin down the time of the Union Station shot. Unfortunately, unless she reset the camera-clock (tourists rarely do), I can only add to the confusion.
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@Radical Communications Media
Radical is a well-established SM firm that does mostly commercials. WRP might list the permit under a false name (they've done it in the past), but I doubt they would use the Radical name.
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Downtown Mariott sighting...
The 7th street station, where the blue and red lines meet, is nearby. A team with local savvy might head there on foot to save some time.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 09, 2009, 07:34:26 PM
This shot was taken between 10:14 and 10:24 am (assumes November 28th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/102_3767.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: b4us on December 09, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
Angeleno here:  

Metro light rail (blue line, transfer green line to LAX, and shuttle to terminals) is the fastest (35-40 minutes) and least expensive ($2.50 per person) route to LAX on Saturday morning.  Taxi is $46 and 1 hour or more.   There are taxis lines at major hotels, but depending on the startpoint taxis might be a rare option (LA recently passed ordinance allowing flagging a taxi downtown, but most don't know or try) .

As for the speculated startpoints and blue line metro stations:
Disney Concert Hall or California Plaza are 3 blocks from Civic Center station
Marriott is 2 blocks from Pershing Square station

Racers sighted in Union Station are lost and likely boarded northbound tracks in error, which is easily rectified in the boarding area of Union station.  However, the photo has them in the lobby area, which means they are likely headed to the taxis line, bus, or information booth.  
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 12, 2009, 10:32:44 PM
Phil filming in Valparaiso, Chile 11/26


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0000.jpg)


the market

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0003.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 12, 2009, 10:33:45 PM
challenge set up, teams had to paint the walls and before someone asks, NO the teams were not there yet.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0001.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0002.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 12, 2009, 10:38:42 PM
:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

GO PUDDIN!! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hellataz on December 12, 2009, 11:10:25 PM
 :cmas9
Great find Puddin !
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: YY on December 12, 2009, 11:14:35 PM
So that was in Chile huh? Interesting!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 12, 2009, 11:56:13 PM
Thanks, Puddin.  :cmas9 I found a picture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/veganstraightedge/3377808571/) of the market; the sign reads Templeman, one of the main drags of Old Town. The cross-street? Maybe...San Enrique.

OK, I think I've got it. Enlarge the pictures here (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/9762866) and here (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/27789288); it's the building behind San Luis Gonazga church at the top of Cerro Alegre. The cross street is Galos.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2009, 01:01:02 AM
Beautiful view too!! Thanks Slowhatch!!

:wtg: puddin!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 13, 2009, 01:08:39 AM
Correct exif data of Phils photo ...........

DateTimeDigitized : 2009:11:29 04:54:09

Thanks Slowhatch!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2009, 01:17:45 AM
Rising and setting times for the Sun

                                 Length of day       Solar noon
Date         Sunrise Sunset  This day   Difference Time Altitude Distance
 
Nov 29, 2009 6:31 AM 8:39 PM 14h 08m 15s + 1m 04s  1:35 PM 78.5°  147.544
Nov 30, 2009 6:31 AM 8:40 PM 14h 09m 17s + 1m 01s  1:35 PM 78.7°  147.519

All times are in local time for Valparaíso
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hooky on December 13, 2009, 01:17:51 AM
Oooo, nice, puddin!

Where did it come from?

(Christmas smileys make a very late but amazing return) :xmas146
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Jobby on December 14, 2009, 02:11:37 AM
WOW, Phil caught in action! :kisses
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on December 16, 2009, 09:58:16 AM
I realize that there is no overwhelming evidence that AR16 teams went ot Kota Kinabalu. If they did then the flight information below is relevant.

Here are the flight schedules weekdays from Kota Kinabalu:

MH637 1000 1330 1-stop
MH9111/MI391 1150 1405
3K528 1335 1555

Since teams had to get to Kota Kinabalu in order to leave from there, there are two primary routes into BKI, through Singapore and through Kuala Kumpur. Here is the weekday schedule from Singapore to Kota Kinabalu:
Monday/Wednessday/Friday
MH9112/MI392 0840 1110
MH638 1335 1715 1-stop

Tuesday/Thursday. there are different flights: 3K527 1035 1255;MH638 1335 1715 1-stop; MH9114/MI396 1425/1700

From Kuala Lumpur to Kota Kinabalu, there are many more flights:
MH2604 0730 1005
MH2612 0920 1155
MH708   0950 1225
MH2114 1200 1435
MH2616 1415 1650
MH068   1500 1735
MH2682 1720 1955
MH2688 1950 2225
MH2626 2150 0025+1
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Macaroons on December 16, 2009, 02:44:30 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redwings8831 on December 16, 2009, 02:49:43 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

How do we know this?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: michael on December 16, 2009, 03:00:48 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

North America, South America, Africa, Austrailia, Asia?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 16, 2009, 03:01:20 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

How do we know this?
"We" know that Macaroons knows and thats all that matters  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redwings8831 on December 16, 2009, 03:02:14 PM
Nvm.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: woden on December 16, 2009, 03:03:48 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

:wohoo:

Now, care to share any specifics?  ;)

This does make Germany seem more likely. And bets are on: Oceania or NA for the 5th continent?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on December 16, 2009, 03:19:40 PM
You can get 5 continents without Europe or Antarctica, and I suspect that is what we have (all except North America) are in the Southern Hemisphere, if not south of the Tropic of Cancer (the imaginary line demarcating the northern end of the Tropics around the globe).

And I think that's a good race, but not one that will be done in 21 days or less (due to travel time from continent to continent). My guess is 23 days.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 16, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
You can get 5 continents without Europe or Antarctica, and I suspect that is what we have (all except North America) are in the Southern Hemisphere, if not south of the Tropic of Cancer (the imaginary line demarcating the northern end of the Tropics around the globe).

And I think that's a good race, but not one that will be done in 21 days or less (due to travel time from continent to continent). My guess is 23 days.

I am still hoping for Oceania especially if they visit like Fiji or Tahiti.  Those two places are the biggest transit hubs in the South Pacific Ocean.  Honolulu is also a major transit hub, but its in the North Pacific Ocean.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 16, 2009, 04:18:41 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

:wohoo:

Now, care to share any specifics?  ;)

This does make Germany seem more likely. And bets are on: Oceania or NA for the 5th continent?

Wait a minute: we got South America, Asia, Europe, and North America as the only continents so far, so that's four continents.  So what if its all six again like in Season5 theres always that possibility.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: michael on December 16, 2009, 04:20:55 PM
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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 16, 2009, 04:26:11 PM
please take the speculation elsewhere  :cmas19
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 16, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
What are you talking about: North America is confirmed, the Race starts there and ends there.  Oceania is only a possibility and Africa is unconfirmed.  South America is confirmed with the legs in Chile and Argentina.  We have teams in Singapore, which is Asia and possibly Malaysia what is also in Asia. Europe is possible do the teams possibly going to Germany.  
1: USA-Chile
2: Chile
3: Chile-Argentina
4: Argentina??
5: Argentina-Germany??
6-11/12/13: Malaysia & Singapore, USA
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: michael on December 16, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: inomu on December 16, 2009, 04:31:54 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

:wohoo:

Now, care to share any specifics?  ;)

This does make Germany seem more likely. And bets are on: Oceania or NA for the 5th continent?

Wait a minute: we got South America, Asia, Europe, and North America as the only continents so far, so that's four continents.  So what if its all six again like in Season5 theres always that possibility.

We do not have Europe.

We actually only can confirm North America, South America, and Oceania. I bet the other two will be Asia and Africa. I really don't see them going to Antarctica (sorry peach!) and the last race was like.....almost ALL Europe.

In last season: 6 legs in Asia, 5 legs In Europe. Just saying... sorry off-topic
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: north09 on December 16, 2009, 06:27:49 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

Thanks Macaroons! After all those legs in South America, I was starting to think we wouldn't see any more than 3.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 16, 2009, 10:42:22 PM
 :colors
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hooky on December 16, 2009, 10:54:02 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

How do we know this?
"We" know that Macaroons knows and thats all that matters  :jam:

Not satisfied with this explanation. How does Macaroons know? If he "knows," why not say more? ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 16, 2009, 10:59:22 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

How do we know this?
"We" know that Macaroons knows and thats all that matters  :jam:

Not satisfied with this explanation. How does Macaroons know? If he "knows," why not say more? ???
Too bad if your not satisfied, it is what it is. All will be revealed when things come together.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Ryan83 on December 16, 2009, 11:32:18 PM
IMHO...He knows BC he KNOWS ppl and only those ppl will feed him with info as long as he doesnt talk. Once the season is done taping he can sing like a bird. If he tells you how he knows then he puts TAR in trouble, BC then things like thast can ruin the show. He knows bc he knows. Plain and simple. Puddin and no one else would vouche for him if he didnt know. So take his word.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Dånooky on December 16, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

How do we know this?
"We" know that Macaroons knows and thats all that matters  :jam:

Not satisfied with this explanation. How does Macaroons know? If he "knows," why not say more? ???
Take Leap of faith :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 16, 2009, 11:50:40 PM
They go to 5 continents this season.  :yess:

How do we know this?
"We" know that Macaroons knows and thats all that matters  :jam:

Not satisfied with this explanation. How does Macaroons know? If he "knows," why not say more? ???
Take Leap of faith :lol:
Nicely said  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Sailing on December 16, 2009, 11:59:36 PM
http://nicholaswashere.blogspot.com/2009/12/sentosa-ftw.html

Lunch at Subway! And guess what? We saw teams of Amazing race
running around Sentosa. That was so cool! Watch out for the next
season... Sentosa might be the pit stop for a leg of the race!

Could this be something?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 17, 2009, 01:17:24 AM
Great find Sailing

I like this approach to Sentosa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentosa):  Panoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/751020)

(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/751020.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 17, 2009, 01:45:16 AM
 :cmas16 And that's where the Subway shop is at: the cable car arrival plaza (http://www.streetdirectory.com/stock_images/travel/preview/12586988440239/160938/sentosa_subway_restaurant/).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: River on December 17, 2009, 06:09:21 PM
Did someone post this yet?

http://myirandom.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/amazing-race-tar-16/

EDIT: Sorry didn't see it!
 B:)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
Extensively discussed in the sightings thread, Dawne, including the pics and the answer from the blogger.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 17, 2009, 10:10:45 PM
The racers did a good job  :cmas16

Dec 5, 2009 (http://picasaweb.google.com/charlottehelvestine/12412709XingInSantiago#5416035304205651522)

challenge set up, teams had to paint the walls and before someone asks, NO the teams were not there yet.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rff-0001.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2009, 10:15:47 PM
That's hysterical!! great find! :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 17, 2009, 10:20:05 PM
That's hysterical!! great find! :lol:
  :cmaslol digging digging ..........
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2009, 10:32:35 PM
me too.... :hfive:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Jobby on December 17, 2009, 11:07:19 PM
http://nicholaswashere.blogspot.com/2009/12/sentosa-ftw.html

Lunch at Subway! And guess what? We saw teams of Amazing race
running around Sentosa. That was so cool! Watch out for the next
season... Sentosa might be the pit stop for a leg of the race!

Could this be something?

There are several ways to get to Sentosa from Habour Front Station, or Vivo City.

#1 - Shuttle Bus services available at Habour Front Bus Interchange
#2 - Skytrain service provided in Vivo City into Sentosa
#3 - Via the Cable Cars, which is actually the most expensive way, yet most beautiful way to view the entire island city of Singapore
#4 - Walking, as Sentosa Island is connected to the mainland of Singapore via a Bridge.

I am more incline into thinking teams either took the Habour Front skytrain or Cable Car, since it will provide a really beautiful view from Singapore. I'm slanting towards the Cable Cars more, because teams will definitely be spotted if they took the skytrain service.. i believe. :cmaslol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2009, 11:47:28 PM
So you'll be going there to talk with the employees this weekend? :flirt:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 18, 2009, 03:00:25 AM
Great to hear about 5 continents, the past two seasons being only 3 and a fairly boring repetitive route map this makes me excited now for a little more self driving!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 18, 2009, 11:35:24 AM
I like to bring this to attention, but travel time between Bariloche and Buenos Aires is measured between 19-25 hours depending on the bus company.  Season 5, teams took a bus from Bariloche to Buenos Aires, to fly out of the country.  I think on the 2nd-3rd of this month, they travel overnight to Bariloche and then they have an overnight rest and continued the 3rd leg on December 4th. This could be the missing time length between the 4th and 6th of December since if teams took a bus on the morning of the 5th and arrive in Buenos Aires on the 6th and fly out to Paraguay later that same day.  Its also possible for them to fly from Bariloche to Buenos Aires, but that means they fly into Jorge Newberry Airport, and take a taxi or shuttle bus across to the outskirts south of the city to Ministro Pistirini Airport.  Also travel between Puerto Montt and Bariloche is also possible by road, the time could take around 5-8 hours since its only on the eastside of the Andes, if you include customs at the nearest border crossing.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Gonnawatch on December 19, 2009, 10:05:18 AM
This link:  http://myirandom.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/amazing-race-tar-16/

Is the team I know - It's Mike and Louie.  It's fun to spot someone you know in this race in actual pictures!  Cool. :cmas16
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 19, 2009, 10:13:30 AM
You can read more about Mike and Louie in this thread:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21187.0.html

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 19, 2009, 07:05:46 PM
This link:  http://myirandom.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/amazing-race-tar-16/

Is the team I know - It's Mike and Louie.  It's fun to spot someone you know in this race in actual pictures!  Cool. :cmas16
Thanks Gonnawatch  :cmas20
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 19, 2009, 10:04:28 PM
TAR16 in Shanghai on the 17th looking better and better, someone spotted crews filming on Nanjing Road a few days ago, maybe for scenes we see when Phil announces " This is Shanghai the largest city in China, and one of the largest metropolitan areas in the world, with over 20 million people."  :cmaslol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: ltvols on December 19, 2009, 10:44:14 PM
regarding shanghai.......if memory serves me there were a few flights out of singapore, changi, between 8-11 am thursday morning
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 19, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
Flight into San Fran this morning as well. I'll let Chateau post those details though .. if only you all knew what he does for us here  :cmas20  :cmas26
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 19, 2009, 11:17:37 PM
Flight into San Fran this morning as well. I'll let Chateau post those details though .. if only you all knew what he does for us here  :cmas20  :cmas26

It would be nice if we could eventually see how you guys "detect" the racers.  :cmas16
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 19, 2009, 11:25:33 PM
Well the details are kind of sad. 

Let's just say it started with a hunch that the remaining teams would be traveling on UA 858 leaving Shanghai on Saturday December 19th at 1:45 pm and arriving on the same day at 8:25 am in SFO.  I got a dirt cheap flight to SFO.  I waited for the show to begin.  And waited.  And waited.  Nothing except some background shots.  No teams  :cmas4

Little did I know, in the meantime of my trip, ES team arrival shots at SFO were posted.  And the Shanghai clue seeped its way to an open post.  I think that drove the deplaning underground or undercover.  Whatever they did, I missed it.    :groan:

And, yes they did use UA 858.   :cmas16
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 19, 2009, 11:39:49 PM
Now you all know what I mean when I wrote you'll never know what Chateau does for us  :cmas17  :jam:

peach will fill you all in about the San Fran info when she has time, and we have Ryan83 to thank for that info found back on Dec 12th!!  :jam: :yess:



Can anybody say:  Flight UA 858 leaving PVG at 1:45 pm and arriving SFO at 8:25 am on December 19th

 :cmaslol  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on December 19, 2009, 11:58:05 PM
Do we know where exactly the race ended?

Did it end somewhere in "The City"?

or do you think it ended in the South Bay?

Depending on where they were, I could possibly take some time out, and go asking around to see if people saw anything.  You know, see if we could piece together tasks and locations and all that jazz
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 20, 2009, 12:16:38 AM
Thanks Puddin!

Final mat spot is unknown.  I suspect they did not not use the Botanical Gardens again after the local neighborhood association spoiled that for Season 11.  :cmaslol

I think they all wore invisibility cloaks!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 20, 2009, 12:40:01 AM
Thanks Puddin!

Final mat spot is unknown.  I suspect they did not not use the Botanical Gardens again after the local neighborhood association spoiled that for Season 11.  :cmaslol

I think they all wore invisibility cloaks!
:cmaslol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on December 20, 2009, 12:47:24 AM
Thanks Puddin!

Final mat spot is unknown.  I suspect they did not not use the Botanical Gardens again after the local neighborhood association spoiled that for Season 11.  :cmaslol

I think they all wore invisibility cloaks!

wait a minute... they ended in San Francisco, not some secluded area in Northern England (possibly Scotland)!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 20, 2009, 02:04:21 AM
Just to summarize here...

Thanks entirely to a wonderful find by ryan83 and his late grandmother Tomi
, RFF was able to confirm San Francisco as the Finale city almost 2 weeks ago. However, due to our belief that the finale should be run unmolested, we again made the decision to not share this info with you all until AFTER the Finale had safely been filmed. However, J/J and other teams were spoiled as they arrived in San Fran from ES, letting the cat out of the bag completely.

The Shanghai info came from some good old fashioned detective work by the team, and a little luck.

So yes, the filming of the TAR 16 FINALE took place 12/19 and was completed by late afternoon, exact MAT location unknown ....so far. :cmaslol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redwings8831 on December 20, 2009, 02:07:50 AM
Just to summarize here...

Thanks entirely to a wonderful find by ryan83 and his late grandmother Tomi
, RFF was able to confirm San Francisco as the Finale city almost 2 weeks ago. However, due to our belief that the finale should be run unmolested, we again made the decision to not share this info with you all until AFTER the Finale had safely been filmed. However, J/J and other teams were spoiled as they arrived in San Fran from ES, letting the cat out of the bag completely.

The Shanghai info came from some good old fashioned detective work by the team, and a little luck.

So yes, the filming of the TAR 16 FINALE took place 12/19 and was completed by late afternoon, exact MAT location unknown ....so far. :cmaslol

Just wondering, was Ryan83 the person who posted in one of these threads that he had possible information and wanted to know if you or puddin was online at that time so he could PM it you either one of you rather than posting it? I remember someone asking that and if it was him, it makes much more sense now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Racefan82 on December 20, 2009, 04:22:17 AM
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.  Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it, yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.  Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did. 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Jobby on December 20, 2009, 04:24:46 AM
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.  Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it, yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.  Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did. 

Because Chateau rocks? :cmaslol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: wonderfalls1 on December 20, 2009, 08:42:01 AM
Hey.

Dunno if this is news or not to all of you, but the TAR 16 teams were on the 0915 hrs Malaysian Airlines flight MH1138 from Kuala Lumpur to Penang on Monday, Dec 14. One team, two males, university students probably were seated on the seats just in front of me and were wearing mics with a bunch of shooting crews.

They were probably on transit in Kuala Lumpur the morning of the Dec 14 enroute to Penang, as there aren't that many international flights flying into Penang.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: tory on December 20, 2009, 09:24:05 AM
SO I AM CONFUSED?? :cmas13 WHAT IS NEW, ... IF THE J'S WERE SEEN IN THE AIR PORT COMING FROM ES THAN WHEN DID THEY GO OUT ?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: jerseydude on December 20, 2009, 09:31:29 AM
TAR16 in Shanghai on the 17th looking better and better, someone spotted crews filming on Nanjing Road a few days ago, maybe for scenes we see when Phil announces " This is Shanghai the largest city in China, and one of the largest metropolitan areas in the world, with over 20 million people."  :cmaslol

OMG. I was on Nanjing Road today. Can't believe missed TAR be 3 days.   :groan: :cmas4 (I would have had school so I wouldn't have been able to go though.  :cmaslol)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 20, 2009, 09:35:13 AM
SO I AM CONFUSED?? :cmas13 WHAT IS NEW, ... IF THE J'S WERE SEEN IN THE AIR PORT COMING FROM ES THAN WHEN DID THEY GO OUT ?

Apparently during one of the first six legs, of course! Unless there was a non elimination leg in there somewhere. Then it must have been in the first seven legs.  :cmaslol

All that is known for sure is that they weren't the first team. I seem to recall reading around here that they might have been eliminated in the second or third leg in South America, but nothing's been proven yet.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: jerseydude on December 20, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
Direct Flights from SIN (Singapore Changi) to PVG (Shanghai Pudong) on December 17th, 2009 . BTW There are no flight to Hongqiao Airport. It mainly serves Korea and Japan and domestic flights.

China Eastern Flight MU 544
Departed:1:03am  (8 min late)
Arrival Time(Actual is unknown): 6:10am

Singapore Airlines Flight SQ826
Departed: 1:18 AM (3 min late)
Arrived: 6:19am (6 min early)

Singapore Airlines Flight 828
Departed: 7:31 am (4 min early)
Arrived: 12:52 pm (7 min late)

Singapore Airlines Flight 830
Departed: 10:05am (on time)
Arrived: 4:11pm (56 min late)

China Airlines Flight 546
Departed: 11:52am (1 hour 40 min late)
Arrived (Actual Not given): 3:10pm

Next two flight arrive too late. Screenshot below
(http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu73/jerseydude1993/untitled9.jpg)

Apart from these, they could have transfered from many cities like
Shenzhen
HongKong
Macau
Beijing
Taipei
Xiamen
Guangzhou
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Macaroons on December 20, 2009, 10:09:28 AM
I believe the most likely flights are MU 544 and SQ 826, but on December 18th though, not December 17.

They then had a few hours of tasks in Shanghai, a pit stop, and then took the flight to San Fran getting in at 8:25 on Dec. 19.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Macaroons on December 20, 2009, 10:10:52 AM
Hey.

Dunno if this is news or not to all of you, but the TAR 16 teams were on the 0915 hrs Malaysian Airlines flight MH1138 from Kuala Lumpur to Penang on Monday, Dec 14. One team, two males, university students probably were seated on the seats just in front of me and were wearing mics with a bunch of shooting crews.

They were probably on transit in Kuala Lumpur the morning of the Dec 14 enroute to Penang, as there aren't that many international flights flying into Penang.



Thank you, waterfalls1! That information fits perfectly with other info we had. It makes me wonder if there was a leg in Kualu Lumpur before this or if it was just used for a connection.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Seattlite on December 20, 2009, 10:41:13 AM

So there was some other inside info about the continents that were visited that you were waiting until after the race was over to let out.  Well????
Merry Christmas everyone
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 20, 2009, 10:59:05 AM
Thank you thank you for bringing this to us wonderfalls!  Good stuff!!! :yess:


Hey.

Dunno if this is news or not to all of you, but the TAR 16 teams were on the 0915 hrs Malaysian Airlines flight MH1138 from Kuala Lumpur to Penang on Monday, Dec 14. One team, two males, university students probably were seated on the seats just in front of me and were wearing mics with a bunch of shooting crews.

They were probably on transit in Kuala Lumpur the morning of the Dec 14 enroute to Penang, as there aren't that many international flights flying into Penang.


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 20, 2009, 12:00:07 PM
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.  Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it, yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.  Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did. 
As Joab has said, ....Yup Chateau Rocks! Take our word for it. This is something thats been in the works over a week. As stated, we knew the finale was in San Fran and we knew where they were coming from and Chateau took money and time of his own to get there maybe he didn't see the teams but he saw something but thats for him to tell not me.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on December 20, 2009, 02:31:03 PM
If Shanghai is the jumping off point to the finale, then there is only flight that needs to be considered:

UA858/CA8588 PVG SFO 1345 0838

Since the finish appeared to be late morning somewhere in San Francisco and since it takes at least 30 minutes to get to most places in SF from SFO, it looks to me like the tasks were about 2 to 2.5 hours long.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on December 20, 2009, 02:39:26 PM
How do we know that there was not an extended pit stop in Shanghai? If there was, then the Final 3 would be arriving in SF this morning, Dec. 20.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 20, 2009, 03:13:55 PM
We know Singapore had one.

But they did arrive 12/20...maybe you need to check the live sightings?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on December 20, 2009, 04:58:05 PM
Sent to the Questions thread.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Racefan82 on December 20, 2009, 11:39:55 PM
Pretty sure my point just got proved since sightings were on the 20th not the 19th as Chateau claimed.  All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 20, 2009, 11:46:04 PM
Pretty sure my point just got proved since sightings were on the 20th not the 19th as Chateau claimed.  All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
When did we ever knock you? You brought us a pretty awesome spoiler Racefan82, refresh my memory please?
I don't recall Chateau ever sighting a team, he sighted crews filming at SFO on the 19th, we were told the race was ending on the 19th. What can you do? Maybe start a private forum and leave ya'll out of the sightings until we get confirmation?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: kittygoesmeow on December 21, 2009, 12:10:50 AM
Pretty sure my point just got proved since sightings were on the 20th not the 19th as Chateau claimed.  All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
When did we ever knock you? You brought us a pretty awesome spoiler Racefan82, refresh my memory please?
I don't recall Chateau ever sighting a team, he sighted crews filming at SFO on the 19th, we were told the race was ending on the 19th. What can you do? Maybe start a private forum and leave ya'll out of the sightings until we get confirmation?

Bring some cookies for him too :)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 21, 2009, 12:12:36 AM


Bring some cookies for him too :)
:yess: :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 21, 2009, 12:38:55 AM
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.  Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it, yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.  Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did. 

Pretty sure my point just got proved since sightings were on the 20th not the 19th as Chateau claimed.  All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.

I am assuming these comments are addressed to me??

Delighted to answer.


1)
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Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.

My perception on this is:
Production cast a VERY high profile team on the race this season...a team with a huge number of fans. I think that they underestimated the interest and the dedication of those fans to finding out every single bit of news they could.
They "let the cat out of the bag" because they didn't take enough precautions.
JJ in Mexico? This wasn't in a small Cambodian or Thai village...this was in a reasonbly busy tourist area. JJ should never have been allowed to be placed in the position of being photographed. (But hey! I LOVED the spoiler...but still.)

And much better precautions should have been taken at the airport if they wanted to avoid the fans' sharp eyes. There were multiple other options to getting them to SF that would have avoided commercial airlines. When you are dealing with "ordinary contestants" it doesn't matter, but it did in this case with JJ.

2)
Quote
Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it,
Chateau has more than paid his dues here and makes enormous contributions to this forum every single day. In addition he has a brilliant analytical mind, so yes! When he says something, we pay attention. He has a proven track record.

3)
Quote
yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.
Chastise and belittle? Really?  :cmaslol
What you don't seem to understand is the enormous amount of energy that goes into every post we make here. Photographic proof from strangers who bring us info is ALWAYS very much appreciated, because it is firm data that can be analyzed. But we welcome all spoilers...but all data is closely analyzed by the team.

4)
Quote
Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did.
Nope, no photos. But you see, YOU have no idea of what info was being discussed.

Yes, we misread some cues and were off by a day. But we have the correct origination city, the correct flight, the correct Finale City, and now the possible MAT. And due to the sensitive nature of the Finale, most of that info was deliberately NOT posted publicly because we care about the show, sometimes even sacrificing spoiler info to protect the teams. And never did Chateau claim to have seen teams, as puddin states.

5)
Quote
All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Can you show me anything demanding you adhere to any standards here? On the contrary, I think it is the RFF team who hold themselves to very high standards, we strive for accuracy and reliability every day.

This is my 8th online season with the race. I used to be very innocent, and pretty much believed that all posters were here because they loved the show as much as I do, and wanted to help in the fun of discovering the locations and all the details that make TAR such an amazing show. But in the last few seasons we have seen incredibly detailed attempts at misleading us surface...including false sites, blogs, tweets, websites, and photos, some of which were carefully planned months in advance and placed here by new posters with their own agenda.


So my question to you is,  after bringing us a wonderful spoiler of the decoy teams in Vegas yourself...  out of your 8 posts:

WHY are 3 of those posts trying your best to convince us that the teams were NOT decoys?

WHY is 1 of those posts an attempt to discredit VegasSinner?

And now, 2 more of those posts attempts at discrediting Chateau, me, and the RFF team?

Really, it kind of makes me think you expected us to believe that your photo showed the TAR 15 final three. But when we showed instead that these photos clearly showed decoys, you have turned instead to trying to discredit our sources, our info, our Detectives, and our site.

Really wondering just what YOUR agenda is here?



Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 21, 2009, 12:58:48 AM
Quote
this was in a reasonbly busy tourist area
I agree they probably should have stayed with Acapulco (see the PV cruise ship schedule here (http://puertodevallarta.com.mx/Documentos/CALENDARIO%202009.pdf)). Maybe the arrangements were made before final casting?
Quote
Production cast a VERY high profile team on the race this season
I wonder who had the final decision. BVM has been public about his dislike of retreads and reruns. Even Spillman doesn't like them: read the interview here (http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_13/2008_Dec_04_casting_former_survivors). Maybe it was a network decision.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 21, 2009, 01:07:08 AM
Don't get me wrong, JJ were adorable on BB, I just don't like retreads either. But their casting will be dynamite for TAR ratings, Olympics or not.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: wonderfalls1 on December 21, 2009, 02:23:12 AM
Hey.

Dunno if this is news or not to all of you, but the TAR 16 teams were on the 0915 hrs Malaysian Airlines flight MH1138 from Kuala Lumpur to Penang on Monday, Dec 14. One team, two males, university students probably were seated on the seats just in front of me and were wearing mics with a bunch of shooting crews.

They were probably on transit in Kuala Lumpur the morning of the Dec 14 enroute to Penang, as there aren't that many international flights flying into Penang.



Thank you, waterfalls1! That information fits perfectly with other info we had. It makes me wonder if there was a leg in Kualu Lumpur before this or if it was just used for a connection.

You are welcome!

I suspect KL is just used as a transit point. Should have used my camera phone to snap a few pictures of the contestants or made some small talk with them. Could have been on an adventure of my own!  :cmaslol

Do anybody have any information on what they were doing in Penang? What did the racers got themselves into?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 21, 2009, 02:27:12 AM
We have some pictures here wonderfalls1, maybe you can spot who you saw?

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21187.0.html


new info on a Phil sighting coming Dubai to KL on 12/12 posted here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg504907.html#msg504907

If teams were sighted leaving KL on the 14th, that does give them time to do a leg.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: LittleBoy on December 21, 2009, 04:11:05 AM
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.  Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it, yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.  Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did. 

Pretty sure my point just got proved since sightings were on the 20th not the 19th as Chateau claimed.  All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.

I am assuming these comments are addressed to me??

Delighted to answer.


1)
Quote
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.

My perception on this is:
Production cast a VERY high profile team on the race this season...a team with a huge number of fans. I think that they underestimated the interest and the dedication of those fans to finding out every single bit of news they could.
They "let the cat out of the bag" because they didn't take enough precautions.
JJ in Mexico? This wasn't in a small Cambodian or Thai village...this was in a reasonbly busy tourist area. JJ should never have been allowed to be placed in the position of being photographed. (But hey! I LOVED the spoiler...but still.)

And much better precautions should have been taken at the airport if they wanted to avoid the fans' sharp eyes. There were multiple other options to getting them to SF that would have avoided commercial airlines. When you are dealing with "ordinary contestants" it doesn't matter, but it did in this case with JJ.

2)
Quote
Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it,
Chateau has more than paid his dues here and makes enormous contributions to this forum every single day. In addition he has a brilliant analytical mind, so yes! When he says something, we pay attention. He has a proven track record.

3)
Quote
yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.
Chastise and belittle? Really?  :cmaslol
What you don't seem to understand is the enormous amount of energy that goes into every post we make here. Photographic proof from strangers who bring us info is ALWAYS very much appreciated, because it is firm data that can be analyzed. But we welcome all spoilers...but all data is closely analyzed by the team.

4)
Quote
Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did.
Nope, no photos. But you see, YOU have no idea of what info was being discussed.

Yes, we misread some cues and were off by a day. But we have the correct origination city, the correct flight, the correct Finale City, and now the possible MAT. And due to the sensitive nature of the Finale, most of that info was deliberately NOT posted publicly because we care about the show, sometimes even sacrificing spoiler info to protect the teams. And never did Chateau claim to have seen teams, as puddin states.

5)
Quote
All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Can you show me anything demanding you adhere to any standards here? On the contrary, I think it is the RFF team who hold themselves to very high standards, we strive for accuracy and reliability every day.

This is my 8th online season with the race. I used to be very innocent, and pretty much believed that all posters were here because they loved the show as much as I do, and wanted to help in the fun of discovering the locations and all the details that make TAR such an amazing show. But in the last few seasons we have seen incredibly detailed attempts at misleading us surface...including false sites, blogs, tweets, websites, and photos, some of which were carefully planned months in advance and placed here by new posters with their own agenda.


So my question to you is,  after bringing us a wonderful spoiler of the decoy teams in Vegas yourself...  out of your 8 posts:

WHY are 3 of those posts trying your best to convince us that the teams were NOT decoys?

WHY is 1 of those posts an attempt to discredit VegasSinner?

And now, 2 more of those posts attempts at discrediting Chateau, me, and the RFF team?

Really, it kind of makes me think you expected us to believe that your photo showed the TAR 15 final three. But when we showed instead that these photos clearly showed decoys, you have turned instead to trying to discredit our sources, our info, our Detectives, and our site.

Really wondering just what YOUR agenda is here?





Nice one Peach
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on December 21, 2009, 07:11:04 AM
This is my 4th RFF Amazing Race. I can't applaud Puddin and Peach to much. They are great coordinators of a lot of info. Because of their discreetion, they get a lot of "inside" info. The finale in SF is about the only time I think this inside info was wrong. I doubt that Pudding and Peach got it wrong. I suspect the inside source messed up with the time frame with the crossing the international dateline. Maybe or maybe not. I will still trust them to lead the rest of us in the right direction in the future. Their only agenda is to make it fun to figure out what is going on.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on December 21, 2009, 07:13:06 AM
Don't get me wrong, JJ were adorable on BB, I just don't like retreads either. But their casting will be dynamite for TAR ratings, Olympics or not.
Temporarily only. Their casting will be  dynamite for TAR ratings while they remain active in the race. Then TAR ratings should plummet back to normal levels and the onslaught will be for the Elimination Station videos.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on December 21, 2009, 07:21:12 AM
This is my 4th RFF Amazing Race. I can't applaud Puddin and Peach to much. They are great coordinators of a lot of info. Because of their discretion, they get a lot of "inside" info. The finale in SF is about the only time I think this inside info was wrong. I doubt that Pudding and Peach got it wrong. I suspect the inside source messed up with the time frame with the crossing the international dateline. Maybe or maybe not. I will still trust them to lead the rest of us in the right direction in the future. Their only agenda is to make it fun to figure out what is going on.

Dr. Rox is correct from the viewpoint of the international date line. However, if an observer saw a team leaving Shanghai nonstop on a flight Dec. 19 and ignored the west to east international date line effect, they would expect it to arrive SF on Dec. 20, not the 19th. The actual situation was different, that someone must have assumed that teams were leaving Dec. 19 in order to arrive on Dec. 19 instead of the Dec. 20 departure, Dec. 20 arrival scenario.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: kittygoesmeow on December 21, 2009, 10:24:34 AM
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.  Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it, yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.  Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did. 

Pretty sure my point just got proved since sightings were on the 20th not the 19th as Chateau claimed.  All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.

I am assuming these comments are addressed to me??

Delighted to answer.


1)
Quote
Why would you assume that the producers let the "cat out of the bag" as to where end city was simply because the B/B team was at the airport? They had to get there somehow.

My perception on this is:
Production cast a VERY high profile team on the race this season...a team with a huge number of fans. I think that they underestimated the interest and the dedication of those fans to finding out every single bit of news they could.
They "let the cat out of the bag" because they didn't take enough precautions.
JJ in Mexico? This wasn't in a small Cambodian or Thai village...this was in a reasonbly busy tourist area. JJ should never have been allowed to be placed in the position of being photographed. (But hey! I LOVED the spoiler...but still.)

And much better precautions should have been taken at the airport if they wanted to avoid the fans' sharp eyes. There were multiple other options to getting them to SF that would have avoided commercial airlines. When you are dealing with "ordinary contestants" it doesn't matter, but it did in this case with JJ.

2)
Quote
Second of all, I find it hilarious that just because Chateau said something was true, you automatically take his word for it,
Chateau has more than paid his dues here and makes enormous contributions to this forum every single day. In addition he has a brilliant analytical mind, so yes! When he says something, we pay attention. He has a proven track record.

3)
Quote
yet other people you chastise and belittle until they have a photo to confirm.
Chastise and belittle? Really?  :cmaslol
What you don't seem to understand is the enormous amount of energy that goes into every post we make here. Photographic proof from strangers who bring us info is ALWAYS very much appreciated, because it is firm data that can be analyzed. But we welcome all spoilers...but all data is closely analyzed by the team.

4)
Quote
Chateau has no photos to confirm teams came in on the flight he thinks he did.
Nope, no photos. But you see, YOU have no idea of what info was being discussed.

Yes, we misread some cues and were off by a day. But we have the correct origination city, the correct flight, the correct Finale City, and now the possible MAT. And due to the sensitive nature of the Finale, most of that info was deliberately NOT posted publicly because we care about the show, sometimes even sacrificing spoiler info to protect the teams. And never did Chateau claim to have seen teams, as puddin states.

5)
Quote
All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
Can you show me anything demanding you adhere to any standards here? On the contrary, I think it is the RFF team who hold themselves to very high standards, we strive for accuracy and reliability every day.

This is my 8th online season with the race. I used to be very innocent, and pretty much believed that all posters were here because they loved the show as much as I do, and wanted to help in the fun of discovering the locations and all the details that make TAR such an amazing show. But in the last few seasons we have seen incredibly detailed attempts at misleading us surface...including false sites, blogs, tweets, websites, and photos, some of which were carefully planned months in advance and placed here by new posters with their own agenda.


So my question to you is,  after bringing us a wonderful spoiler of the decoy teams in Vegas yourself...  out of your 8 posts:

WHY are 3 of those posts trying your best to convince us that the teams were NOT decoys?

WHY is 1 of those posts an attempt to discredit VegasSinner?

And now, 2 more of those posts attempts at discrediting Chateau, me, and the RFF team?

Really, it kind of makes me think you expected us to believe that your photo showed the TAR 15 final three. But when we showed instead that these photos clearly showed decoys, you have turned instead to trying to discredit our sources, our info, our Detectives, and our site.

Really wondering just what YOUR agenda is here?





Slow clap... :hoot:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
Sorry to say and sad to report, I should have known better, instead I stopped my sleuth short.   :cmas4

Thanks Peach & Puddin.  We still have lots of work to do.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: ottopilot on December 21, 2009, 01:52:47 PM
Pretty sure my point just got proved since sightings were on the 20th not the 19th as Chateau claimed.  All Im saying is that the upper clique of RFF should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
When did we ever knock you? You brought us a pretty awesome spoiler Racefan82, refresh my memory please?
I don't recall Chateau ever sighting a team, he sighted crews filming at SFO on the 19th, we were told the race was ending on the 19th. What can you do? Maybe start a private forum and leave ya'll out of the sightings until we get confirmation?

Awww...I thought you guys already did that?  I vote no on starting it :cmas22 I appreciate all the hard work everyone puts in here. Keep it up  :kisses
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 21, 2009, 02:48:34 PM
It's pretty obvious that Racefan82 is a plant >> CONFUCIUS SAY: "Man who goes to bed with itchy ass wakes up with stinky fingers".
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on December 21, 2009, 03:38:45 PM
It's pretty obvious that Racefan82 is a plant >> CONFUCIUS SAY: "Man who goes to bed with itchy ass wakes up with stinky fingers".

Well Puddin, I wasn't gonna say that, but it is rather obvious.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 03:52:16 PM
Oh don't scare him away!  That shot of Harlem carrying checked baggage was spoiler gold.   :cmaslol

That shot drew a tidy circle around the final three.   :cmas16

We can always use information like that.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18840.0;attach=129086;image)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on December 21, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Here is some information on luxury villas that might have been the site for AR16 Elimination Station in the Puerto Vallarta area:

P.V. 6BR+ Villas List (http://www.mexicandestinations.com/destinations/puerto-vallarta/puerto-vallarta-6-bedrooms.php)

P.V. 5BR villas List (http://www.mexicandestinations.com/destinations/puerto-vallarta/puerto-vallarta-5-bedrooms.php)

For either list, the direct approach to the agents or owners for information is not likely to succeed because for the right one they will ahve signed confidentiality agreements with WRP or CBS.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 04:47:03 PM
These are the shots that we are likely to see in the TAR16 finale as teams arrive at SFO:

1)  The passenger exit from Customs (Gate "A" is for the other wing of international arrivals)
2)  The sign for Taxis
3)  The view of the Taxi rank.

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 04:50:35 PM
This is a shot of people waiting to meet the arriving passengers as they come out of Customs from Gate "G"

Too bad I didn't get this shot at about 9:02.   :cmas4

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 04:52:26 PM
Production celebrates the arrival of the camera crews from Shanghai.

Either that or they are celebrating the unspoiled passage of the final teams from Gate "G".

Congrats to production for their hard work and excellent product.  We love you and hope the best for the coming Season!

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 21, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
This is fun Chateau! Keep them coming please  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:06:48 PM
Okay.  I have only a few more.

Here is a huge load of equipment arriving.  They all cheered as the crew appeared.  It's like a big family!

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on December 21, 2009, 05:09:03 PM
i've been through there loads of times!
This is fun to watch  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:18:33 PM
As you can see TAR production has some of the best equipment!   :cmas19

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:26:14 PM
Another shot as they move supplies out to the pickup lane

As you can see the flight landed at 8:44 am.

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:35:04 PM
They guys are 'blue' production team?

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:37:16 PM
See the bandannas?

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
This was part of the final big load

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:45:19 PM
'The white zone is for immediate loading of ... '

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:48:07 PM
' ... passengers and luggage only, no parking'

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:51:44 PM
And that's about it!

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 21, 2009, 05:56:39 PM
Mike and Louis are in the F3!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 05:59:37 PM
No!  :groan:

Sorry Kiwi !  I need help!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 21, 2009, 07:24:03 PM
:hides

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 21, 2009, 07:31:08 PM
 :cmaslol  :cmaslol  Maybe the answer is in the shoes ....  :cmas19  :cmas50

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 07:35:16 PM
Well I be buggered!!

You're right!

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 07:36:33 PM
I guess that tells us who's out!

They're not racing.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 21, 2009, 07:40:41 PM
I was just trying to match the shoes  :cmas26

Chateau!!!!!!! You caught a TEAM!!!!!!!!!!  :yess: :yess: :jam: :jam:

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 21, 2009, 07:42:21 PM
Not only a team but a Spoiler!!!!!!!!! :yess: :yess: :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 08:06:31 PM
Sorry about that chief!

I thought for sure they would make the final leg  :cmas13
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 21, 2009, 08:12:10 PM
Sorry about that chief!

I thought for sure they would make the final leg  :cmas13
Any more pictures Chateau and yeah that, they looked like a very strong team  :cmas13
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 21, 2009, 08:38:58 PM
Sorry about that chief!

I thought for sure they would make the final leg  :cmas13
Any more pictures Chateau and yeah that, they looked like a very strong team  :cmas13

Just this one where I was trying to match the shot angle of the JJ arrival shot.  The rest are shots of the monitor or blurry bad.

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Racefan82 on December 22, 2009, 03:10:04 AM
First off, Im not a plant.  Im just happened to see teams racing one place where I was at.  Notice Ive never had any other sightings.

I just got pissed because I only read this thing every so often and there were some posts a few weeks ago that disturbed me where there was just bashing of this womans blog because she didnt have pics and then with others we are just supposed to believe them.  Im not doubting many of your commitment to detecting this show.  Your commitment is almost frightening.  I just have a thing against cliques and didnt like the bashing of this woman.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Seattlite on December 22, 2009, 09:40:34 AM
I am trying to just find out the route and not find out who is eliminated until I meet the racers on the show.  Just more fun for me that way so any help would be appreciated. 
I was rereading all of TAR 15 spoiler location posts the other day to see how well you guys did and if you would not have vouched for Racefan82, I would of thought he was a total plant.  Why not since they have fake racers running around.  Anyway we have villains on the show and the forum too?
Being new I know how it feels to have no credibility but the reality is some folks work hard, have good contacts and regularly come up with solid info. I would like to thank them not slam them.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Gonnawatch on December 22, 2009, 12:55:06 PM
Sorry about that chief!

I thought for sure they would make the final leg  :cmas13

Who?  Do you think Mike & Louis made the final 3?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 23, 2009, 12:43:18 AM
Sorry about that chief!

I thought for sure they would make the final leg  :cmas13

Who?  Do you think Mike & Louis made the final 3?
I think they didn't make final 3, so sorry if true. Just looking at the evidence which is not looking good for Louie and Mike. I'll guess they are made final 4 but that's speculation.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 23, 2009, 11:36:53 AM
Since Angel Danger gave us a shout out I'll re-post the blog (http://givewhatyoutake.blogspot.com/2009/12/did-not-get-chance-to-meet-up-with-my.html), thanks Angel Danger  :cmas20

Note: Reality Fan Forum/ other Amazing Race spoiler boards- I was at the flyer on Sunday (December 12), a few days before the Amazing Race hit up Singapore. As Kevin and I were leaving the compound to head to our regular bar for more drinking, I noticed a sign saying that the complex was closed Wednesday for a few hours for a private filming and assumed it was for the Singapore Idol finals or a local tv channel filiming some drama serial or a commercial. He said yeah, it could be any of these..... But for the love of god, as a lurker on the Reality Fan Forum board, who'd have imagined the Amazing Race being filmed there..............damn, how stupid of me not to think so- I've been a huge fan since the Rob and Amber season (7) till now. I instantly called Kevin back and he had the same reaction as me ie oh my god holy crap. Had I not been so tired out from going across the causeway on Tuesday and suspected the Amazing Race was in Singapore, I would have gone out to the complex to scout but well, I stayed home all of Wednesday.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 23, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Just finished a short trip to verify for myself the path the Moms were walking at Union Station. I stood in the same spot and the photos below show the viewpoint from behind and in front of them. Behind them is the ticket counter and the door to a garden area called the South Patio that many people use as a shortcut (beyond the patio is the neat Fred Harvey restaurant (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12295814@N05/1833253041/), now used only for weddings and movie shoots; too bad it couldn't be a starting point). In front of them is the Red Line entrance and baggage claim. To their left is the main salon and to their immediate right is the tunnel leading to the Amtrak platforms and the Flyaway bus. If it's the bus they're after they need to do a lot of asking; I only found one sign for the Flyaway--at the end of the tunnel next to the bus stop itself.

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on December 23, 2009, 10:58:23 PM
Thank you Slowhatch.  I was thinking about going down there ... post holidays.

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 23, 2009, 11:16:47 PM
Once again some amazing work, you guys all rock!  :cmas20

Just finished a short trip to verify for myself the path the Moms were walking at Union Station. I stood in the same spot and the photos below show the viewpoint from behind and in front of them. Behind them is the ticket counter and the door to a garden area called the South Patio that many people use as a shortcut (beyond the patio is the neat Fred Harvey restaurant (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12295814@N05/1833253041/), now used only for weddings and movie shoots; too bad it couldn't be a starting point). In front of them is the Red Line entrance and baggage claim. To their left is the main salon and to their immediate right is the tunnel leading to the Amtrak platforms and the Flyaway bus. If it's the bus they're after they need to do a lot of asking; I only found one sign for the Flyaway--at the end of the tunnel next to the bus stop itself.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: sweetpeatx on December 23, 2009, 11:45:03 PM
I'm not sure where to put this, or if it is even news here.  Remember the photo of Phil eating at McDonalds?  I had tweeted the guy and asked where the photo was taken and he just answered me yesterday.  He said, "Dubai."
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 24, 2009, 01:54:25 AM
I'm not sure where to put this, or if it is even news here.  Remember the photo of Phil eating at McDonalds?  I had tweeted the guy and asked where the photo was taken and he just answered me yesterday.  He said, "Dubai."
thanks for the info sweetpeatx , good job
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 24, 2009, 02:21:38 AM
Thanks sweetpeatx, that will help the Timeline a lot!  :cmas16
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 24, 2009, 04:25:06 AM
Do you guys think they're doing Dubai in back-to-back seasons, or if it is just a connection (almost like FRANKFURT :cmaslol), since it has flights almost everywhere from there?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Seattlite on December 24, 2009, 08:40:39 AM
While it has been done before (India), I doubt they would since it was so well covered. I can't think of another aspect to feature.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 24, 2009, 09:03:10 AM
I'm not sure where to put this, or if it is even news here.  Remember the photo of Phil eating at McDonalds?  I had tweeted the guy and asked where the photo was taken and he just answered me yesterday.  He said, "Dubai."
Good job following up.
I can't seem to match up the pic with the Dubai McD's though. Is it possible the guy is covering up his location because he is WRP crew and in trouble for posting it? I thought we had it pretty well pinpointed Phil being in Penang.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 24, 2009, 01:27:47 PM
I looked last night as well, the McD looks different...will try to work on it more after the holidays.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on December 28, 2009, 01:09:42 AM
I'm not sure what the caption of this photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/taegencarter/4220686985/) means: the photo seems to have been created today (27 Dec), and he might be referring to a former racer.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 28, 2009, 02:23:50 AM
Interesting find...was this was one of our possible start locations? ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 28, 2009, 10:29:29 AM
I'm not sure what the caption of this photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/taegencarter/4220686985/) means: the photo seems to have been created today (27 Dec), and he might be referring to a former racer.

hmmmmm...  if he's Taegen Carter, the director/screenwriter, then he has an inside connection to the entertainment industry in L.A.  

 :yess:  (hint of a possible TAR connection)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 28, 2009, 11:46:37 AM
Interesting find...was this was one of our possible start locations? ???
Someone migh have thrown that idea out, I'll have to read back to see who it was? Thanks Slowhatch and Boingo  :rodeo
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 First Destination!
Post by: topaz on December 28, 2009, 02:10:42 PM
Amazing race: I just called my friend in Toronto.There is flags and a cluebox outside the brickworks. 

 :funny: :funny: :funny:

Liar, Liar pants on fire.

Have we got anyone here from Santiago or in particular Valparaiso!
well, speaking of fire, there's a forest fire going on in Valparaiso, Chile, the 1st city to be raced on TAR 16: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8432347.stm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 28, 2009, 03:04:35 PM
 :cmas19  sorry if this was posted previously, but a TARLA(?) sighting in San Telmo (Market), [Buenos Aires] Argentina here (http://picasaweb.google.com/mcepler/ArgentinaPart1#5415310031647387298)   :cmas5

not sure if TARLA was filming at the time... could be nothing...  :cmas10
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on December 28, 2009, 03:45:46 PM
IIRC, the Disney Concert Hall is in the vicinity of the first Tweets and the underground tunnel that was closed on the first day of filming TAR 16.

Whether it means anything in particular as to TAR 16 is another question altogether.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 28, 2009, 06:53:51 PM
Was Boingo that pointed out the Walt Disney Concert Hall first I believe  :cmas26



Been looking into this a bit... and just going with the hotel spoilers in downtown LA... you can extrapolate something like this....

One of the downtown hotels used by USC (to house alumni/team) is the Omni Hotel

Given that, what else is there to do downtown within walking distance of the hotel....

- Angels Flight (funicular) next to Omni (closed for repairs)
- Walt Disney Concert Hall (modern Bilbao-like structure) possible indoor start ?
- a whole lot of nothing.........  but great access to the freeways...

In short, I got nothin'   :groan:

Could this be connected to the start location??? see (9)   =
http://ens.lacity.org/bpw/agendas/bpwagendas8663713_11252009.pdf
 but I think it would be close to where teams were spotted??? (I'm probably just grasping at straws  :duno:)

^^ that might have been a filming for cars Radical

COMMUNI- Film L.A. Inc. #1, requesting Board grant @Radical
CATIONS Media, Inc. permission to close 2nd Street tunnel from
Hill Street to Figueroa Street on Saturday and Sunday,
November 28-29, 2009 from 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
for filming purposes
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 29, 2009, 05:20:56 AM
Remember this sighting ..

Phil spotted in Dubai en route to Malaysia (12/12 EK342 arriving 10:30am); team spotted en route from Kuala Lumpur to Penang (12/14)

found a blog  ...

Scooting Around (http://nohurrycurry.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/scooting-around/)
12/14/09: Penang, Malaysia

We scooted to the Kek Lok Si Temple, which is the biggest Buddhist temple in Southeast Asia. Kevin and I aren’t very good at visiting temples, since we usually don’t know anything about them except whatever they say in the brochure they hand out to visitors.

Anyway, the temple seemed nice enough – it was really colorful, which made for some pretty pictures. We spent about half an hour there and were getting ready to leave when Kevin, who was at the front stairs, waved and motioned excitedly for me to come look. “It’s The Amazing Race! And sure enough, it was. Kevin offered up the idea of following the Amazing Race-rs around all day, which I promptly vetoed. I wasn’t going to let us spend our one day in Penang scooting around aimlessly looking for things we couldn’t find.

more at the link above
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 29, 2009, 05:29:54 AM
Kek Lok Si Temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kek_Lok_Si) is pretty awesome

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 29, 2009, 04:59:20 PM
wow looks really nice, this would be F5 would it not?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 30, 2009, 04:24:05 AM
Had a wonderful reply with more info from Kevin and Zhou from www.nohurrycurry.wordpress.com!!

They write:

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We were about to leave Kekloksi Temple near Penang Hill around 11am on 12/14 when one team and its cameraman and coordinator hopped out of a taxi. A few minutes later two more teams showed up and each team was asking some locals for help. Eventually they all figured out they were in the wrong spot. I was standing next to one of the guys at this point (trying to offer my map but he was talking to a local), and I'm pretty sure they were all supposed to be at Kuan Yin Teng (Goddess of Mercy Temple), but am not 100%. A couple hours later we went to this temple and didn't see any trace of the race.


All we can remember about the teams was that there were three of them - one father/daughter team, one team of two younger guys, and one unknown. (Sending pics for review--peach)

.... They sent a few pics >>>( the last team to leave, since I was too excited that we were watching TAR to take pictures or video up to that point) is the father and daughter.

Unfortunately we didn't get to see a challenge of any sort, but hope this is helpful anyway. Let us know if you need any more information.

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2009, 11:01:44 AM
Thanks peach thanks Kevin and Zhou, fantastic confirmation that this is our race!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on December 30, 2009, 12:34:07 PM
 :yess:  Father & daughter (?) were standing next to this gate (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2409269) in the parking lot next to the temple.

photo album (http://picasaweb.google.com/WenChing.Chan/2009050815_KekLokSiTemplePenangMalaysia#)
photo album #2 (http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~net/photos/malaysia/penang-island/)

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 30, 2009, 01:11:17 PM
That looks like the Father and Daughter to me too, definitely looks like them in the first picture
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 30, 2009, 05:35:00 PM
More from Kevin and Zhou: :hearts:

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I looked at the pictures and one team was Mike and Louie - I believe they were the first to arrive. I'm pretty sure that the other team (the second to arrive) was the frat boys - the guy I stood next to was a young white guy who wasn't wearing a cowboy hat.


The third team was definitely a father/daughter team because the coordinator kept telling the daughter to make sure she stuck together with her dad.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 31, 2009, 01:23:22 PM
Wonder if they're decoy's?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: :jerry: on December 31, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Is it better if Zhou communicated in Chinese LOL? Me might understand better :D (Of course with the help of our RFF translators :) )
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Paron on December 31, 2009, 04:58:12 PM
That looks like the Father and Daughter to me too, definitely looks like them in the first picture
Interesting.  So if they're here, this is, what, F6?  Can't be F5, because I thought that's where Dan & Jordan were to have gone out.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 31, 2009, 05:32:31 PM
Well either Carol and Brandy (Final F/F) are eliminated in F6 before Singapore spoiler and the man or woman with gray white hair is Steve (dad) or Steve and Allie are decoys and are out at F6
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 31, 2009, 06:26:53 PM
Chateau and I made a field trip yesterday to some of our projected Finale City locations. We pretty much hit all the sites at just about the same time teams would have been there as well. Some new info!!

Based on this tweet:

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Storm Troopers are escorting 'Amazing Race' contestants through the Letterman Digital Arts Center
10:25 AM Dec 20th from txt --dylbeck

Our first stop was right here:

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We managed to get DIRECT CONFIRMATION (two sources) that yes, TAR 16 was filming there on Sunday AM 12/20. Teams entered thru the main visitor parking lot, and apparently went directly to YODA. Storm Troopers were definitely involved as well. And best of all, GEORGE LUCAS and other key executives were there as well.

Here are some of the sights we may see:

YODA is just off the main parking entrance:

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Just behind is the main lobby:

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They could have then gone around the corner to here:

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Which would have led them to this stunning view of the Palace of Fine Arts--wouldn't this be a perfect stand-up shot for Phil??  :yess:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%2012%20FINALE/Fieldtrip/Overlook1closeupwm.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 31, 2009, 06:35:48 PM
Our second stop was Coit Tower, thanks to tweets like this one:

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joelwhitaker Amazing Race contestants just completed near-final stage by rappelling up San Francisco's Coit Tower! http://twitpic.com/udts2   half a minute ago from Echofon

http://twitter.com/joelwhitaker

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%2012%20FINALE/Fieldtrip/TAR16possibleFinalelocationsFiel-44.jpg)

They will have an amazing view of the whole city from the top...

But since we already had onsite confirmation of filming occuring on the day, we didn't need to reconfirm. But Chateau got lots of lovely shadows!!

Confirming that some filming did occur there...last "teams" reported through about 45 minutes ago... crews now dismantling the equiptment.



Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 31, 2009, 06:44:04 PM
Third stop was the Great American Music Hall: based on this:


I spoke to someone else in San Fran who saw the cowboys around the Great American Music Hall, which is on O'Farrell Street. They said they were very frantic and tried to get a cab but there was someone in it. They tried to get the people to give up the cab but they wouldn't so they ran to the next street over, Geary Street and caught a cab there.

I don't know if there was something at the Music Hall or if it was just the nearest landmark to describe where they were. Here is a map of it in comparison to Coit Tower. Notice that it is towards heading back in the direction of Hunter's Point, which would be further to the bottom right of what this map shows.

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7091/sanfranf.jpg)

and all of this sighting:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg505781.html#msg505781

Here are some pics:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%2012%20FINALE/Fieldtrip/TAR16possibleFinalelocationsFiel-38.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/ep%2012%20FINALE/Fieldtrip/TAR16possibleFinalelocationsFiel-37.jpg)

And all of the streets are nearby...

But while a task here could certainly be possible... we do NOT have firm confirmation that this location was actually used yet. There are lots of theatres around that area...anything is still possible.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on December 31, 2009, 06:46:36 PM
And Chateau and I continued on.... but more will come in 2010! :lol:

Happy New Year to you all!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on December 31, 2009, 07:14:56 PM
peach and Chateau's excellent adventures  .. I love it!  :cmas23  :HH: :cmas52 *digs out the NY emote ........  :HNY:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 01, 2010, 01:30:50 AM
Great pictures Chateau and Peach! When I said I wasn't going to fly down to San Francisco  :plane: and poke about, it didn't occur to me that someone else would!  :notme: :noway:  I hope you got some useful information for your dedication and trouble. How was Hunter's Point anyway?   :didimiss:

Was that Chateau in the red jacket and dark pants? :hithere:

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: caper on January 01, 2010, 09:58:39 AM
Chateau and Peach  :yourock:   :conf: :bounce
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Macaroons on January 01, 2010, 10:28:10 AM
Thank you, peach and Chateau!

re: the Great American Music Hall. I'm thinking it was just a reference point for where the team was spotted. They ran to O'Farrell/Polk and then caught their taxi at Geary St.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2010, 01:40:38 AM
Had a wonderful reply with more info from Kevin and Zhou from www.nohurrycurry.wordpress.com!!

They write:

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We were about to leave Kekloksi Temple near Penang Hill around 11am on 12/14 when one team and its cameraman and coordinator hopped out of a taxi. A few minutes later two more teams showed up and each team was asking some locals for help. Eventually they all figured out they were in the wrong spot. I was standing next to one of the guys at this point (trying to offer my map but he was talking to a local), and I'm pretty sure they were all supposed to be at Kuan Yin Teng (Goddess of Mercy Temple), but am not 100%. A couple hours later we went to this temple and didn't see any trace of the race.


All we can remember about the teams was that there were three of them - one father/daughter team, one team of two younger guys, and one unknown. (Sending pics for review--peach)

.... They sent a few pics >>>( the last team to leave, since I was too excited that we were watching TAR to take pictures or video up to that point) is the father and daughter.

Unfortunately we didn't get to see a challenge of any sort, but hope this is helpful anyway. Let us know if you need any more information.




Kevin and Zhou did not realize that they caught another team, we're thinking the one in blue with the white headband might be Jordan of the Frat brothers ..

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-60.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-61.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-62.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-63.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-64.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2010, 01:51:48 AM
one might say the brothers look a little Indian?

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-65.jpg)
(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-66.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 03, 2010, 02:51:14 AM
Yes, that is him. Once again the backpacks help us out!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 03, 2010, 03:03:06 AM
After reviewing the pics from here, Kevin and Zhou felt that the three teams they saw were:

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I looked at the pictures and one team was Mike and Louie - I believe they were the first to arrive. I'm pretty sure that the other team (the second to arrive) was the frat boys - the guy I stood next to was a young white guy who wasn't wearing a cowboy hat.

The third team was definitely a father/daughter team because the coordinator kept telling the daughter to make sure she stuck together with her dad.

After taking another look, they wrote:

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I now see the other racer you're talking about - that wasn't the young guy I referred to in an earlier email, but it looks it must be his teammate. Didn't even realize that team was still there at that point. Good spot!


Thank you guys SO much, these are a big help!! :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2010, 03:39:12 AM
Kevin and Zhou have been incredibly awesome to us, we'd love for you both to join us in the sleuthing, no matter   :ty3:  :party:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 03, 2010, 04:05:17 AM
Interesting pictures! I see the other frat brother behind Jordan in the first two pics. You can just see a little bit of his face. They seem to be talking to the father (Steve Smith) in the black shirt in the first two pics, then Jordan runs around to the other side of the cab and is talking to him through the car window while Allie gets into the cab. Looks to me like a possible alliance between those two teams - unless it's an argument about something that's happened.  

In that small cab, that's got to be a cramped ride with a driver, two racers and the two camera and sound guys and their equipment.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 03, 2010, 04:57:18 AM
There is someone behind...but I don't think it is the brother...I see a reddish beard I think?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/PENANG/TAR16Penangvidcap2.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 03, 2010, 05:02:10 AM
You may be right about the reddish beard. That could make him the sound guy following the father/daughter team and we don't see him after that because he's inside the cab.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: EnduranceRealityFan on January 03, 2010, 09:31:32 AM
Hey. So this confirms that Steve and Allie were not decoys at this point so does that mean Carol and Brandy go out 6th?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: retard boi on January 03, 2010, 10:54:33 AM
Hey. So this confirms that Steve and Allie were not decoys at this point so does that mean Carol and Brandy go out 6th?

Beside the "blonde guy" sighting that may be Steve or Carol, Carol and Brandy where spotted in Singapore selling ice-cream. why do you automatically assume that only of them reach Singapore?
Who told you that the cowboys and miss South Carolina are not decoys in San Francisco? they were not spotted in any of the Asian legs.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2010, 12:02:04 PM
Hey. So this confirms that Steve and Allie were not decoys at this point so does that mean Carol and Brandy go out 6th?

Beside the "blonde guy" sighting that may be Steve or Carol, Carol and Brandy where spotted in Singapore selling ice-cream. why do you automatically assume that only of them reach Singapore?
Who told you that the cowboys and miss South Carolina are not decoys in San Francisco? they were not spotted in any of the Asian legs.

The Cowboys were spotted multiple times in Singapore , the San Fran Twitter wrote that his girlfriend said the couple in red at Coit Tower was indeed Caitlin and Brent so at this point who knows? Read below, could be Caitlin and Brent where wearing blue so we still have a red team couple sighting in Sentosa...not sure which team that might be?
We also have 2 girls spotted at the Singapore Flyer. I wouldn't assume anything.

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In fact, n the tube behind us, we could see two young girls were being filmed doing just that. Since we envisioned that the dinner would be an occassion for romance and dinner, and the girls were rather shoddily-dressed, we were trying to come up with scenarios for what was going on. Was it a reality TV show? It turns out we were close -- a Hong Kong Travel show was filming its Singapore adventure

         
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Well, the first team I saw were two big guys wearing blue and the second team were a couple. The male is blonde-haired and the female is a brunette.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg503496.html#msg503496


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I did not realise that they were filming the amazing race until the 2nd sighting, therfore no pictures were taken.

I was at the singapore flyer at about 11am, 16 dec 2009, when i saw the 1st group, male/female team(young couple, long hair girl dressed in blue).
As the flyer was closed for shooting until 12.30pm, my family and i proceeded to sentosa's underwater world, where we spotted the 2nd group, male/male group (middle aged man, dressed in blue too.) wondering around Rasa Sentosa Hotel car park at abt 1pm, same day.
 
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg503507.html#msg503507


and then again Carol and Brandy were identified in grey selling ice cream

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well, according to her, there were 2 females, should be wearing grey though she wasn't really sure now. They were selling ice cream and it was about 11+ am. =)


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.650.html


and we have Natalies sighting at the megazip and its all for you to decide who the Indians might be  :lol:
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23 Dec 09, 07:35
Natalie: okay i think.. there's this two guys with cowboy hats? n a couple team?(indians?) didnt hang around there very long... sorry!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Paron on January 03, 2010, 11:36:00 PM
Hey. So this confirms that Steve and Allie were not decoys at this point so does that mean Carol and Brandy go out 6th?

Beside the "blonde guy" sighting that may be Steve or Carol, Carol and Brandy where spotted in Singapore selling ice-cream. why do you automatically assume that only of them reach Singapore?
Who told you that the cowboys and miss South Carolina are not decoys in San Francisco? they were not spotted in any of the Asian legs.

The Cowboys were spotted multiple times in Singapore , the San Fran Twitter wrote that his girlfriend said the couple in red at Coit Tower was indeed Caitlin and Brent so at this point who knows? Read below, could be Caitlin and Brent where wearing blue so we still have a red team couple sighting in Sentosa...not sure which team that might be?
We also have 2 girls spotted at the Singapore Flyer. I wouldn't assume anything.

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In fact, n the tube behind us, we could see two young girls were being filmed doing just that. Since we envisioned that the dinner would be an occassion for romance and dinner, and the girls were rather shoddily-dressed, we were trying to come up with scenarios for what was going on. Was it a reality TV show? It turns out we were close -- a Hong Kong Travel show was filming its Singapore adventure

          
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Well, the first team I saw were two big guys wearing blue and the second team were a couple. The male is blonde-haired and the female is a brunette.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg503496.html#msg503496


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I did not realise that they were filming the amazing race until the 2nd sighting, therfore no pictures were taken.

I was at the singapore flyer at about 11am, 16 dec 2009, when i saw the 1st group, male/female team(young couple, long hair girl dressed in blue).
As the flyer was closed for shooting until 12.30pm, my family and i proceeded to sentosa's underwater world, where we spotted the 2nd group, male/male group (middle aged man, dressed in blue too.) wondering around Rasa Sentosa Hotel car park at abt 1pm, same day.
 
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg503507.html#msg503507


and then again Carol and Brandy were identified in grey selling ice cream

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well, according to her, there were 2 females, should be wearing grey though she wasn't really sure now. They were selling ice cream and it was about 11+ am. =)


http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.650.html


and we have Natalies sighting at the megazip and its all for you to decide who the Indians might be  :lol:
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23 Dec 09, 07:35
Natalie: okay i think.. there's this two guys with cowboy hats? n a couple team?(indians?) didnt hang around there very long... sorry!
Ugh, my head's hurting trying to process all this!  From all we're reading here, we know Dan & Jordan and Mike & Louie had to have gone out before the F3, and Brent & Caitlin and Jet & Cord are two of the teams in the F3, but my mind's wracked trying to figure out who between Steve & Allie and Carol & Brandy is the last team in the F3.  One minute, I'm disappointed that the search for an all-female winning team ended at F6 again.  And the next, I'm getting hope that it didn't end there at all.  I'm so confused.  Which is it, I wonder?!

. . . Honestly, if I knew which came first between Singapore and Malaysia, we'd have better idea of who did go out in sixth, because I think Singapore might be the F6 leg.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 03, 2010, 11:43:30 PM
If I were TPTB I for sure would have decoy teams out in full force in Singapore, as you can see it is the most spoiled :P
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2010, 12:04:06 AM
Video thanks to Kevin and Zhou from www.nohurrycurry.wordpress.com!!

 


(Video quality may improve once processing is complete.)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2010, 03:25:29 AM
Well either Carol and Brandy (Final F/F) are eliminated in F6 before Singapore spoiler and the man or woman with gray white hair is Steve (dad) or Steve and Allie are decoys and are out at F6

Hey. So this confirms that Steve and Allie were not decoys at this point so does that mean Carol and Brandy go out 6th?


Ugh, my head's hurting trying to process all this!  From all we're reading here, we know Dan & Jordan and Mike & Louie had to have gone out before the F3, and Brent & Caitlin and Jet & Cord are two of the teams in the F3, but my mind's wracked trying to figure out who between Steve & Allie and Carol & Brandy is the last team in the F3.  One minute, I'm disappointed that the search for an all-female winning team ended at F6 again.  And the next, I'm getting hope that it didn't end there at all.  I'm so confused.  Which is it, I wonder?!

Here is my take on all this....everyone needs to stand back and take a deep breath. :lol: None of this spec can be assumed to be true yet.

We have NO proof of who is absolutely our final three at this point. It is still way too early to assume that based on just the sightings we have so far....

From woden's Timeline, we can prob add a little more now.

Probable Top 6
Dan & Jordan (Spotted en route to Penang) >>possibly in the Penang Video as well.

Steve & Allie (Spotted in Penang)  >>could this be our red team and perhaps "Indian" couple as well in Singapore?? (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/cast/th_TAR16castAllison.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/cast/TAR16castAllison.jpg)

Mike & Louie (Spotted in Singapore)  >>running decoy by San Fran, perhaps even sooner

Carol & Brandy (Spotted in Singapore)

Brent & Caitlin (Possibly spotted in San Francisco)

Jet & Cord (Possibly spotted twice in San Francisco)


There will be at least two decoy teams, a third is possible. IMO, based on the info we have so far, NO ONE in this group can be completely ruled out yet for final three, except for oh so sadly, Mike and Louie.

As puddin says, TPTB would know very well that Singapore would be a highly spoiled site...I would think they would be working their decoys hard at that point. And given that there will be a probable NEL in the last few legs, it makes it hard to tell who is decoys and who isn't. At some point towards the end, we have to remember that a "sighting" doesn't rule out the possibility of being a decoy, UNLESS you are seen directly in the company of other teams (decoys generally have no direct contact with the active racers).

So we need to get more info before assuming too much too soon.

And while the sightings of the Cowboys and Brent/Caitlin look good, we can't be 100% sure they couldn't be decoys...

So I'll be brave and say......three of the above teams are final three. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 04, 2010, 03:54:58 AM
That's an interesting video. It's too bad he panned away to the temple (although that verified the location), that entering cars screened the activity a bit and that he didn't get closer sooner. I'm not criticizing. I wouldn't have done that well. I'd have been too shocked to get my camera going except maybe to see tail lights retreating into the distance.  :lol: Kevin (the guy speaking on the video) suggests that they may be lost and at the wrong location. It certainly had that feel to it. They weren't running like "OK, we've got the next clue, Let's Go!", it was more like "Huh! This isn't it! What now?" I don't think they were being decoys. It would be pretty good acting to show confusion like that. In the other thread with the screen captures, I suggested that Steve and Allie may be working with Jordan and Dan and that looks right to me. Jordan seems to be leaning into the cab to discuss with Steve where they will go next. Kevin's commentary sounded like he may have seen other teams before these two. If so, that would make Steve/Allie and Jordan/Dan both behind and lost. That's not a good place to be, so if this was an elimination leg, the eliminated team may have been one of those two.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2010, 04:06:22 AM
Welcome to the TAR Detectives Plaidmoon  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2010, 04:23:29 AM
Congrats Plaidmoon!! :hearts:

Kevin thinks the teams he saw were Dan and Jordan, Steve and Allie, and Mike and Louie who were first (of the teams he saw). Assuming there were others who went to the right Temple, it is not too much of a stretch to think that one of these teams might be at risk.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 04, 2010, 08:38:49 AM
Welcome to the TAR Detectives Plaidmoon  :tup:

Wow!

I'm stunned and honored. I didn't expect anything like this. I'm just having some fun trying to help out by doing a little research and making a few observations.

Thanks!   :jumpy: :wohoo:  :jumpy:  :wohoo:   :jumpy:  :wohoo:

I promise to ignore wikipedia spoilers in the future and to never divulge the secret handshake under penalty of a quadruple speedbump.  :lol:

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2010, 04:31:28 PM
I like the way you think Plaidmoon, outside the box  :tup:

Just following up and came across this but am having a hard time finding the whole sighting, maybe someone will have better luck  :lol:

valpo | Tumblr
The Amazing race was being filmed whie wer were in town, and Elise had the pleasure of seeing many moronic Americans carrying paint tins up the hills. We ...
www.tumblr.com/tagged/Valpo
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2010, 04:49:35 PM
In full:

Funky like James Brown, Valparaiso, Chile, 28-31 November 2009
Valpo is a UNESCO heritage listed city built on a number steep hills overlooking the Pacific, an hour or so from Santiago. We met James and Dave here again, though they were lured to another hostel by the promise of a free breakfast.

Valpo was unlike any other city I`ve been to. The terrain would definitely be in the too-hard basket for most rational settlers but luckily the Chileans were unperturbed, and decided to built houses (out of second hand bricks and tin) that barely cling to the hillsides. To disguise their likely imminent collapse due to missing cement and foundations, not to mention many laws of physics, most were painted in brilliant colours, creating an amazing visual effect (which no doubt these words are failing to do). Like everyone, the residents of Valpo hate walking up hills, particularly steep ones. To overcome this, external “elevators / funiculares” were built about 100 years ago and are still functioning today, mainly for the purposes of scaring the shit out of tourists. All four of us survived many trips, but were happy to use the stairs for any downhill journeys.

Three interesting things happened during our time there

1. We went for a drink and were approached by a night club promoter who told us about an event his brother, one of Chile`s pre-eminent jazz saxophonists, was playing. He warned us that it was likely “to get funky, like James Brown”. Surely something was lost in translation.

2. The Amazing race was being filmed whie wer were in town, and Elise had the pleasure of seeing many moronic Americans carrying paint tins up the hills. We were chased away every time we went for our cameras, so you`ll have to watch all of season 27 to check the truthfulness of this.

3. Garfield. The gringo route is well known and well travelled, so it`s not unusal to run into the same people along the way. However, Garfield, an Englishmen of unknown age (I said 30, everyone else said 40) was at the same restaurant as us in Mendoza, took the same bus to Santiago (20 leave a day) and stayed at the same hostel in Valpo. Wearing the same clothes every time. I`ve been looking over my shoulder ever since.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2010, 05:19:39 PM
Any photos?  :lol: Thanks peach, my brain is still in the "dead of winter" , I'm not kidding brrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2010, 05:23:45 PM
No pics. :(

We need a brrrrrrrrrrrrr smiley, lol.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2010, 07:15:25 PM
dug this out of the tweets:

Saw this posted on Facebook:

Nathan Antoun assisted the blue team of the Amazing Race in Penang on Monday.

It was posted on Wed at 7:20am

Would that fit the timeline?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2010, 07:55:38 PM
The problem with that is that Dec 13 was the Monday. We have teams spotted flying KL>>Penang on 12/14, and doing tasks 12/14.

So why the Monday?


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Nathan Antoun assisted the blue team of the Amazing Race in Penang on Monday.  posted December 16, 2009 at 8:20am

And we have lots of "blue teams" too....could be the Frat boys, the Miss SC team, Allie, Mike and Louie.

My guess would be that he mixed up his days....or some teams arrived the night before (seems doubtful) or remotely possible he helped a decoy the day before the real leg?? ???


He didn't reply to my first inquiry  :(, but I'll try again.

edited because I can't read a calendar  :colors :groan: :colors
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 04, 2010, 09:53:38 PM
Kuan Yin See Temple

Kuan Yin Teng, or Temple of the Goddess of Mercy, is one of the most important temples in Penang. It is located along Jalan Masjid Kapitan Keling, formerly Pitt Street, and is one of the oldest Chinese temples in George Town. This temple is on Lebuh Masjid Kapitan Keling, right in the heart of Georgetown. It was built in the 1800s by the first Chinese settlers in Penang. A photo is below and a map next.

The map can be expanded by clicking on the small double arrow, which I recommend you do. The blue line is from the nearest bus terminal to the temple.
Penang Kuan Yin See Temple (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110373835700622206958.0004560a04cb1638a890a&ll=5.416585,100.340323&spn=0.007477,0.00912&z=16&source=embed)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-67.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: chill_sd on January 05, 2010, 10:42:13 AM
The problem with that is that Dec 13 was the Monday. We have teams spotted flying KL>>Penang on 12/14, and doing tasks 12/14.

So why the Monday?

Are you looking at a 2010 calendar? 12/14 was a Monday in 2009.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 05, 2010, 10:44:24 AM
oh crapola. :groan:

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on January 05, 2010, 01:20:40 PM
Does that confirm 2 legs in Penang?  If teams were seen running around both on the 14th and the 16th, it seems kinda long for just one leg
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 05, 2010, 01:27:02 PM
The poster added his post on the 16th...the teams were there on the 14th.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on January 05, 2010, 01:50:10 PM
oh, i thought there were other spoilers that said they were there on the 16th  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on January 05, 2010, 02:50:04 PM
We know Phil was leaving Penang at about 5 pm on December 14th:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21193.msg502435.html#msg502435

So the racing probably finished there on that day.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 05, 2010, 03:55:56 PM
If there was a 36 hour extended pit stop in Penang, then the release time from it could have been Dec. 16 in the early morning. Getting from Penang to Singapore by air could have been accomplished Wednesday morning by:

JQ 674/3K674     09:25    10:49    

AK 5801              09:40    10:59    
    
MI 351/SQ5351   10:25    11:28    
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 05, 2010, 04:14:09 PM
At least one team is already selling ice cream in Singapore by 11AM though. Seems too tight a schedule. Of course, TPTB can make the PitStops any length they want these days. :res:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 05, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
OK, Peach. I made the assumption that only the nonstop flights from Penang to Singapore need to be considered. Your point mandates that connecting flights through Kuala Lumpur also be considered. There are 4 basic flight combinations leaving Penang from 0640 to 0725 and arriving Singapore between 0930 and 1025:

MH1133 0640 0735 connecting to 3K684 0850 actual 0952 or MH9131 0855 actual 0945

GF6227/MH1137 0710 0805 connecting to 3K684 0850 0952 or MH9131 0855 0945

MH9881 0715 0815 connecting to either of the flights on the prior line

CX720 0725 0825 connecting to MI7415/MH611 0925 actual 1015
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redwings8831 on January 21, 2010, 12:25:31 AM
In an article released by the Miami Herald (and posted in the discussion board by sunnyca  :wohoo:) that lists some of the teams, BVM mentions France and the Seychelles as locations on this season.

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http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/AP/story/1437023.html

Cowboys, dectectives among 'Amazing Race' teams

By DERRIK J. LANG

AP Entertainment Writer

Jet and Cord McCoy, a pair of bull-riding brothers from Tupelo, Okla., are among the 11 teams competing on the upcoming 16th edition of CBS's "The Amazing Race." Other teams competing this season include a grandmother and granddaughter, a father and daughter, married high-school sweethearts, and a couple of attorney moms.

Jet, 30, and Cord, 29, who have both competed on the International Professional Rodeo Association circuit, said they were not daunted by their competition for the $1 million grand prize on the reality show premiering Feb. 14 (8 p.m. EST).

"We ride bucking bulls and horses," said Jet. "If we're gonna be intimidated, it's not by another team."

"I can ride a horse as fast as they can go," said Cord.

The biggest hurdle facing Louis Stravato, 47, and Michael Naylor, 45, at the beginning of the race was their backpacks. After seeing the behemoth bags carried by the Harlem Globtrotters last season, the longtime buddies and narcotics detectives from Providence, R.I., chose not to pack lightly. They ended up ditching clothes along the way.

"We are the two biggest idiots," said Stravato. "Before the race, we kept telling ourselves that the cameramen were going to have to check their stuff, so we would be able to check our giant 90-liter bags while we were racing around the world. When we got to the starting line and saw all these small bags on everybody else, we knew we were in big trouble."

A few of this season's contestants have previously been in the spotlight, including former "Big Brother" houseguests Jordan Lloyd, 22, and Jeff Schroeder, 31, as well as former Miss Teen South Carolina Caitlin Upton, 20, who is racing with her boyfriend, Brent Horne, 28. Upton said she wanted to redeem herself on the race after her infamous 2007 pageant flub involving a confused and mangled response to a geography question.

"People always picture me as the typical pageant girl, and I'm not at all," said Upton. "I've only been in five pageants. I'm actually a very athletic person. I'm just tired of being represented from that standpoint. I want to show people who I really am as a person, that I am capable of accomplishing anything and doing anything I put my mind to."

Lloyd and Schroeder, who began dating after Lloyd won the 11th season of "Big Brother" last summer, said fans of the claustrophobic reality show might be surprised to see how much the duo bickered on the 16th season of "The Amazing Race," which was filmed last November and December and spanned nearly 40,000 miles across five continents and eight countries.

"I wasn't prepared for how much we had to work together," admitted Schroeder.

"He wanted to ring my neck," added Lloyd, "and other times I wanted to kill him."

"Jordan, I was trying to say it in a nice way," said Schroeder.

For the first time, when the teams departed "The Amazing Race" starting line, they had to rely solely on public transportation - no rental cars, no taxis - to make their way from downtown Los Angeles to the airport, a world-class challenge in itself. Executive producer Bertram van Munster said the racers then headed to Valparaiso, Chile. Other stops included France and the Seychelles.

"We have never been to that place before," van Munster said of the lush island destination off the east coast of Africa. "We were looking into going to Africa, but I couldn't find any countries that would fit into the entire scheme of the race, and I wanted to go to an original place. It's very beautiful. It's very remote. It takes forever to get there."

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2010, 12:30:25 AM
Great find!  :tup:  :jumpy:  :jam: It also sheds some light on Chateau's predictions about the trip to the airport.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redwings8831 on January 21, 2010, 12:31:51 AM
Great find!  :tup:  :jumpy:  :jam: It also sheds some light on Chateau's predictions about the trip to the airport.

sunnyca found it. I just moved it from the TAR discussion board to here.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Sailing on January 21, 2010, 12:33:27 AM
 :wohoo:  :jumpy: :hearts:  :jam: :yess: When will the Teams official photos be available?  :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 12:34:22 AM
Also means that they may not have gone to Germany after all...France??

And definitely means that Dijibouti was a false spoiler, right? No other African countries.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on January 21, 2010, 01:28:15 AM
Also means that they may not have gone to Germany after all...France??

And definitely means that Dijibouti was a false spoiler, right? No other African countries.



So Seychelles counts as the African continent.   :tup:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/LocationSeychelles.png)

NA
SA
Africa
Europe
Asia

Makes 5
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 01:33:02 AM
8 countries, 5 continents!!

Chile
Argentina
Paraguay?
France
Seychelles
Malaysia
Singapore
China

NA, SA, Africa, Europe, Asia
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 01:34:24 AM
I am thrilled about the Seychelles, it is one of the most gorgeous locations ever!! We had a good bit of spec on there for TAR 13, glad they finally got there!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redskevin88 on January 21, 2010, 06:05:19 AM
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For the first time, when the teams departed "The Amazing Race" starting line, they had to rely solely on public transportation - no rental cars, no taxis - to make their way from downtown Los Angeles to the airport, a world-class challenge in itself.

Could be interesting... considering what I know about LA.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 21, 2010, 07:37:23 AM
Van Munster speaks with forked tongue on the difficulty of getting to Mahe Airport on the Seychelles. If teams have to go beyond that island, then additional flights will be needed (but I do not consider that likely). Here is the one nonstop 9 hour 35 minute flight Paris to Mahe

AF952/AM007 CDG SEZ 1930 0805+1

To get from Seychelles to East Asia, Van Munster is correct, as a connection is needed:

EK709 SEZ DXB 0145 0615
EK342 DXB KUL 1030 2125 (note - arrives 2 hours earlier than connection DXB BKK KUL that left Dubai at 0905)

Then there is a wide range of flights from Kuala Lumpur to Penang.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 08:48:56 AM
Cast reveal!! Somebody name that spot!! :lol:  Screen caps later I'm sure!





Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2010, 10:10:09 AM
I don't know. My first guess would have been Echo or Elysian, but this seems a little closer to downtown. Some new construction/new plantings.

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-68.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2010, 10:34:33 AM
New construction it is; compare the zoom cap with the GE viewpoint. A park at the corner of 1st and Beaudry.

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-69.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on January 21, 2010, 10:42:21 AM
 :tup:  Good one.  Those stadium lights were a dead giveaway... first rule of TAR detecting, don't ignore the stadium lights...  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2010, 10:50:10 AM
I think it's the Vista Hermosa (http://www.lamountains.com/parks.asp?parkid=672) park.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: caper on January 21, 2010, 10:50:36 AM
Could it be Vista hermosa Natural park?  Having touble attaching link - but I think this could be location?http://www.lamountains.com/pdf/Vista%20Hermosa%20Natural%20Park.pdf
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2010, 11:30:49 AM
This helps explain the Moms at Union Station; they went to the ticket counter to ask for information and were returning to the central hub. The signage there is so confusing a fellow has even made a photo essay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/soulbarn/sets/72157622495000408/) about it.
It should be interesting to see how it plays out. Although the Civic Center Metro stop is slightly closer, the Flyaway leaves every 20-30 min. I went back to Season 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcZlWiIaRYM) to compare; although the clue card wasn't shown, Phil told the teams in his speech to "run into downtown Chicago and catch the train to the airport."
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on January 21, 2010, 11:42:46 AM
Woohoo Seychelles! :jumpy:

IIRC, there is a daily flight between Seychelles and Singapore. Teams may have been able to catch it, but production probably would have been on that flight.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: jerseydude on January 21, 2010, 11:46:44 AM
Woohoo Seychelles! :jumpy:

IIRC, there is a daily flight between Seychelles and Singapore. Teams may have been able to catch it, but production probably would have been on that flight.

Phil was seen on a flight from Dubai to KL so that should be impossible.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on January 21, 2010, 01:44:56 PM
NVM
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 02:37:29 PM
puddin posted this in News::

Contestants will travel nearly 40,000 miles across five continents and eight countries.  Eleven Teams start off by navigating through the congested streets of Los Angeles and, for the first time ever, must rely solely on public transportation to make their way to LAX.  The Teams' first destination lies in Chile where they will encounter one of the most daunting Roadblocks in the history of the series.  In their ongoing battle for the one million dollar prize, Teams will participate in a grueling World War I reenactment in France, retrace the early days of the iconic rock group, The Beatles, and come face-to-face with one of the world's most infamous villains.

WWI reanactment in France??

Early days of the Beatles is all about Liverpool isn't it?? Could we have Liverpool and not Paraguay?? ???

Villain??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Macaroons on January 21, 2010, 02:40:08 PM

Villain??

Probably Darth Vader in San Francisco.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 02:42:57 PM
oops...my bad. We are all over in speculation. :lol:

But :wtg: on the cast Macaroons!! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2010, 02:53:58 PM
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But  :wtg:  on the cast Macaroons!!
Yes, great job. (and Darth Vader sounds good as well)
Comparing the cap to this map (http://www.lamountains.com/maps/vhp_siteplan.pdf), the starting line would seem to be the west side of the Lower Field. The easiest route would be out the south gate to 1st street. Notice all the minders they have on the ridgeline watching for outsiders.  :lol:


(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-53.jpg)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-54.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 02:58:59 PM
[ Notice all the minders they have on the ridgeline watching for outsiders. Chateau.  :lol:

Fixed.  ;)

Thanks for the location!!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on January 21, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
All the WWI battles were northeast of Paris along the border area with Belgium/Luxemburg/German. The Beatles did come from Liverpool, but they spent a LOT of time in Hamburg too.......

So maybe Paraguay to Northern German to France to Seyschelles.........

Could be the Paraguay spoiler is fake too, like Djibouti....Seems, to me, to be two legs in Europe, from what BVM is saying.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 03:53:33 PM
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on January 21, 2010, 04:10:05 PM
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.

This was the first thread I read this afternoon. After reading all the other posts today, Paraguay has to be out. That was good deception. But I think it is very easy to fly into Hamburg and for the teams to make their way to Paris with either 2/3 legs on land only travel. Then fly out of Paris to the Seyschelles.

When the Beatles first started going to Hamburg, I think they were called the Quarymen......changed to Beatles later.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: topaz on January 21, 2010, 09:17:38 PM
Early days of the Beatles is all about Liverpool isn't it?? Could we have Liverpool and not Paraguay?? ???

probably that Beatles thing is none other than Sir Paul McCartney who had a honeymoon vacation with his former wife, Heather Mills in Seychelles (a country that will feature on TAR 16) way back 8 years ago.  And here is the link of it: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-87100675.html (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-87100675.html)

And also, the late George Harrison had his own estate located on Seychelles as well, in the island of FRÉGATE.
I think that'll solve the problem. :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 21, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.

This was the first thread I read this afternoon. After reading all the other posts today, Paraguay has to be out. That was good deception. But I think it is very easy to fly into Hamburg and for the teams to make their way to Paris with either 2/3 legs on land only travel. Then fly out of Paris to the Seyschelles.

When the Beatles first started going to Hamburg, I think they were called the Quarymen......changed to Beatles later.

The Beatles were initially named Quarrymen.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: RichInSydney on January 21, 2010, 09:23:29 PM
And also, the late George Harrison had his own estate located on Seychelles as well, in the island of FRÉGATE, and here's the link:

George Harrison and the other Beatles have estates all over the world! Basic Google search of "early days of Beatles" point to Hamburg or Liverpool. Will CBS be releasing a route map soon?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2010, 09:43:16 PM
Will CBS be releasing a route map soon?

Hope not! I like Neobie's better and it is more fun to puzzle it out.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on January 21, 2010, 09:56:52 PM
Remember that the World War I reenactment doesn't actually have to take place on an actual battlefield! Don't know why, but I've a gut feeling on Strasbourg.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 21, 2010, 09:59:36 PM
I have been looking at all the nonstop flights possible to get to Mahe International Airport in the Seychelles from Europe. The best is clearly from Paris-CDG. The others are:

 Frankfurt [ends 11 April]
 London-Heathrow
 Milan-Malpensa
 Moscow-Vnukovo
 Paris-Charles de Gaulle
 Rome-Fiumicino
 Zürich [ends 15 April]

Connecting flights are also possible through Doha and Dubai.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 21, 2010, 10:22:45 PM
I am going to issue a location for an activity. The hang-gliding/birdman task would make sense in the Andean summer if it started from the top of a ski slope above Bariloche. I have seen a Bariloche area video with hang-gliding.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on January 21, 2010, 11:09:38 PM
Remember that the World War I reenactment doesn't actually have to take place on an actual battlefield! Don't know why, but I've a gut feeling on Strasbourg.
Strasbourg is a TGV ride away from CDG airport. Also, if one were to draw a line between Hamburg and Strasbourg, Frankfurt would be on that line.  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Paron on January 22, 2010, 04:39:08 AM
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.

This was the first thread I read this afternoon. After reading all the other posts today, Paraguay has to be out. That was good deception. But I think it is very easy to fly into Hamburg and for the teams to make their way to Paris with either 2/3 legs on land only travel. Then fly out of Paris to the Seyschelles.

When the Beatles first started going to Hamburg, I think they were called the Quarymen......changed to Beatles later.

The Beatles were initially named Quarrymen.
Quarrymen?  Having Gargoyles flashbacks from seeing that name.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: topaz on January 22, 2010, 06:17:09 AM
Remember that the World War I reenactment doesn't actually have to take place on an actual battlefield! Don't know why, but I've a gut feeling on Strasbourg.
The city of Strasbourg wasn't destroyed nor a battleground during the First World War but here are some of the lists of battles that are fought on that event which is mostly found within the Western Front (from France to Belgium) and these are:

1. Battle of Ypres (in Belgium)
2. Battle of Marne (in France)
3. Battle of Verdun (in France)
4. Battle of the Somme (in France)

see one of those infos about World War I battles and Western Front at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_I) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_I))

my wishlists:

1. Hopefully they don't use chemical warfares during their tasks in France just like what happened during World War I.  It's very dangerous for the TAR 16 racers. :-[

2. And also, their pit stop should be in the city of Ypres in Belgium so that it'll be the 1st time to be feature on TAR, not in France itself.  And it's been a long time that Belgium didn't visited it for this show since season 1 (thanks to India and China). (:;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 22, 2010, 06:33:09 AM
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.
Peach:
It's not often you make a geography goof, but it looks like you have here. Ypres is in the Southwest part of Belgium. Since I am not sure precisely what you were getting at, Paris is also west of the entire country of Belgium. I made one too, as I believed Mons was in northern France when it really is in Belgium. Here is a schematic map of Belgium to illustrate where Ypres is:

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-70.gif)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on January 22, 2010, 09:49:00 AM
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.
Peach:
It's not often you make a geography goof, but it looks like you have here. Ypres is in the Southwest part of Belgium. Since I am not sure precisely what you were getting at, Paris is also west of the entire country of Belgium. I made one too, as I believed Mons was in northern France when it really is in Belgium. Here is a schematic map of Belgium to illustrate where Ypres is:




Cool map, AP. Brings back a lot of fond memories.

As to Peach's geography goof, I guess its all in the interpretation. I might have read more into what Peach said, but I took her comment to mean the location of the Ypres battlefield in relatonship to all the other famous battlefields that took place in the area of your map. It would be very hard to find a battle field farther NW on your map, than maybe Dunkirk, which was WWII. All of the other major battlefields are either south or southeast of Ypres. So in that context, I too believe that the Ypres battlefield is just way to far NW.

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-55.gif)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: ams06 on January 22, 2010, 10:31:58 AM
Not sure if you have seen this blurb from this travel blog but could this possibly be where the grandmother/granddaughter duo were eliminated?
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Bariloche was beautiful but windy and cold - bring not just "layers" but a heavy coat, gloves, scarf, thermal undewear. The young sheep farm host was hilarious and the farm will be featured on the Amazing Race in February.

It was posted Jan 5, 2010. I believe the name of the sheep farm is Fortin Chjacabuco sheep ranch

Here's the link https://www.gct.com/gcc/general/default.aspx?oid=269504
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2010, 10:37:15 AM
I am used to calling that part of France the NW coast.. just included that bit of Belgium as well. It is an area well known to me. Ypres just seems too far "out", aside from the fact that it is in Begium not France. :lol:

I have sent out some feelers to several historical reenactment groups, will see if they can turn up anything.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2010, 10:46:28 AM
Not sure if you have seen this blurb from this travel blog but could this possibly be where the grandmother/granddaughter duo were eliminated?

Bariloche was beautiful but windy and cold - bring not just "layers" but a heavy coat, gloves, scarf, thermal undewear. The young sheep farm host was hilarious and the farm will be featured on the Amazing Race in February.

It was posted Jan 5, 2010. I believe the name of the sheep farm is Fortin Chjacabuco sheep ranch

Here's the link https://www.gct.com/gcc/general/default.aspx?oid=269504

Wonderful find ams06!! This looks great and gives us another task location in the Bariloche area!

Here is the location and their website:

Estancia Fortín Chacabuco - Ruta 40  Km 2061 - Neuquén - Patagonia Argentina

http://www.estanciaspatagonicas.com/laestancia_en.htm

Sheep shearing anyone?? I didn't see any LLAMA pictures though.  :duno:

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-56.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2010, 10:51:20 AM
Here is another map link for the area if anyone can spot it better: Googling 2041 km didn't get me anywhere! :lol: General location foor exploring only, the "A" is another hotel.


http://maps.google.es/maps?f=d&saddr=-41.242885,-71.462567&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=-41.242788,-71.459563&sspn=0.009406,0.016136&ie=UTF8&ll=-41.228765,-71.427784&spn=0.079786,0.132523&t=h&z=13

Interestingly, some of the other hotels in the area offer a ropes course...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 22, 2010, 12:33:35 PM
is this it? ^^^^^^

Follow up Bariloche (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.portaltaringa.com/noticias/4105713/The_Amazing_Race_film%25C3%25B3_en_Bariloche.html&ei=bWAfS5K4OoiWtgf07OWZCg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBsQ7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Damazing%2Brace%2Bbariloche%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4DKUS_enUS306US306%26tbo%3D1%26tbs%3Dqdr:d)


Leopoldo Tiberi, responsible for communication of Tourism Promotion Combined Entity (Emprotur) from Bariloche, stressed that the implementation is an enormous promotional value. "

The Amazing Race (The Great Race), reality show competition of the American CBS network broadcast worldwide, recorded one of the stages in Bariloche, before continuing the filming in Germany, said the tourist promotional agency of the city .

The filming was done days ago on location on el río Limay River
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR16/rio-limay-foto1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2010, 12:52:30 PM
Yes!! That's it!!

Oh wow, I REALLY need to reread the whole entire spoiler thread post by post. :(  These little links are so PC but darn, I miss stuff.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 22, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
Yes!! That's it!!

Oh wow, I REALLY need to reread the whole entire spoiler thread post by post. :(  These little links are so PC but darn, I miss stuff.
I haven't fought my way through the speculation thread yet peach and I know there is some good info in there that I missed....... somewhere  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on January 22, 2010, 12:57:17 PM
Slowhatch ..yeah! :jam:


Thanks, Puddin. The site (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=-40.809002,-71.119695&spn=0.017281,0.027466&t=h&z=15) in the photo is south of the estancia (http://wikimapia.org/6313259/es/Estancia-Chacabuco), so maybe the ranch is the pit stop.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 22, 2010, 02:37:24 PM
I have been digging out information for all around Nahuel Huapi National Park. I finally found something that actual mentions delta wing paragliding:

La Angostura incorporated to its gentle urban layout a golf course, a "country" (gated residential compound), a ski center in Mt Bayo (meaning and an excellent hotel infrastructure facing lakes Nahuel Huapi and Correntoso).

The latter fact makes it specially suited to the practicing of nautical activities, especially fishing, all kinds of navigation (windsurf, sailboats and cruise ships) and, obviously, trekking, horse riding, mountain biking, hang-gliding and delta wing gliding.


La Angostura is highlighted on Peach's fine map. I consider it NW of Bariloche, but the direction from where the Limay River flows is SW to NE, entering Nahuel Huapi Lake at its further south point near Bariloche. Its most salient feature for delta wing gliding is that up Cerro Bayo there are no fewer than two double chairlifts, five teleskis, a T-Bar teleski and two Baby-Lifts, with a total uphill capacity of 4,500 an hour.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2010, 03:54:35 PM
nvm... I need to be in spec or the promo thread.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2010, 02:05:58 AM
Bringing this over from Sailing's find in spec:

It appears that it may be Liverpool instead of Hamburg, based on this press release:

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/tube-talk/tv-news/2010/01/amazing-race-returns-feb-14-here-are-the-teams/


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...now the question is whether it will survive a race around the world, including a first stop in Chile and later challenges including the reenactment of a World War I battle in France and a Beatles-centric puzzle in Liverpool, England.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on January 23, 2010, 07:19:38 AM
Although this doesn't jive with the Patagonian newspaper and could be a mistake...

England could potentially host the Birdman Rally in the preview, and a short train/ferry ride to our WWI battlefield!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2010, 09:40:35 AM
Although this doesn't jive with the Patagonian newspaper and could be a mistake...

England could potentially host the Birdman Rally in the preview, and a short train/ferry ride to our WWI battlefield!

Neobie, Liverpool is feasible and 392 miles from Paris (vs. 465 miles for Hamburg) and the Beatles ties to Liverpool are obvious.

Here are two sets of flight combinations from Sao Paulo to Liverpool via Munich and Amsterdam or London and Amsterdam:

LH505 GRU MUC 1440 0520+1
LH4690 MUC AMS 0635+1 0810+1 (note - KL1790 does the same route 0655 0845
KL1037 AMS LPL 1010 1035+1

JJ8084 GRU LHR 2350 1325+1
BD111 LHR AMS 1600+1 1820+1 (note - BA   does the same route 1630+1 1845+1)
KL1045 AMS LPL 2035+1 2100+1

Here are sets of flight combinations from Buenos Aires to Liverpool via Madrid and Amsterdam:

IB6844 EZE MAD 2240 1430+1
IB3250 MAD AMS 1550+1 1820+1 (note - KL1704 does the same route 1655 1940)
KL1045 AMS LPL 2035+1 2100+1

There is also another equivalent route through Rome and Amsterdam that provides nothing different in terms of departure or arrival times. My conclusion, as previously stated, is that GRU is a superior place to take the north-north-east transatlantic crossing unless you could not get there before 2pm.

I have found something truly extraordinary for flights from London nonstop to Liverpool - they do not exist, not just from Heathrow but form any of the several London area airports. I have to assume that BritRail has created this situation. If AR16 teams were allowed to, they should not be going from London to Amsterdam to get to Liverpool, as that is ridiculous. They should get to London's Euston station and take BritRail to Liverpool's Lime Street station. THis train departs 1607 and arrives 1815.

It does not make a lot of sense for AR16 teams to fly from Liverpool to a WWI battlefield in northern France. The logical place to arrive would be Lille and it takes 6 hours and 2 connections to get there. It makes more sense for a train from Liverpool to the Chunnel, then probably in Lille making connections to go by rail to Amiens or Arras.

Here is a list of Eurostar trains from London - St. Pancras to Lille:

06:20     09:07     01h47m     9108     
08:27    10:54    01h27m    9120     
11:04    13:26    01h22m    9126  
12:57        15:24         01h27m      9132
14:04    16:24    01h20m    9030

On the front of that is the schedule from Liverpool to London from 6am to noon:

Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 06:05   2/02/10 - 08:22      2 h 17 min    Regular   0605   
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 07:00   2/02/10 - 09:01      2 h 1 min    Regular   0700
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 07:48   2/02/10 - 09:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   0748
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 08:48   2/02/10 - 10:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   0848       
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 09:48   2/02/10 - 11:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   0948
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 10:48   2/02/10 - 12:58      2 h 10 min    Regular   1048
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 11:48   2/02/10 - 13:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   1148

from Euston station, a brief London subway ride will get you to St. Pancras station for the departure of the Eurostar trains.

Lille is the major city and transit hub for northern France, so it will be easy to get trains going to a lot of places. We do not yet know which battlefield was selected, but it will probably be on of these:


Aisne
Argonne Forest/Meuse River
Arras (several battles of the Somme were actually a little south of the city in addition to being in it)
Amiens
Belleau Woods (thanks, Dr. Rox, I forgot that one)
Cambrai
Champagne
Chateau-Thierry
Le Cateau
Guise
Loos-en-Gohel
the Marne region
Messines
Neuve Chapel
the Somme region/Peronne/Picardy
St. Mihiel
Verdun
Vimy Ridge
Verdun

 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
One a Marine, always a........


Belleau Woods (thanks, Dr. Rox, I forgot that one)

Chateau-Thierry

The Battle of Belleau Wood was the battle that the US Marine Corps. go the nickname "devil dogs" from the Germans. Since we had that Marine Corps new release, it made sense to me. The only reenactment of Belleau Wood I have found was last June in Virgina.

Still looking for Chateau-Thierry. It was a US Army battel. Both of these battles are considered part of the Battle for the Marne.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2010, 10:53:05 AM
Thanks apskip! Awesome transportation summary.

Another alternative that comes to mind would be for teams to to fly  into MANchester, which is the big international hub for that area, and then drive or take a train from there. I use that hub often, it is an easy airport.

I do wonder whether or not they would let them self drive when that involved driving on the left though? I know they have done it before when it mostly involved motorways, but in a small town it is different.  Some years I drive more miles on the left than I do here, but it is knack, and takes a little time to be comfortable.

I really like the thought of using the trains the best, fun to see!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2010, 01:04:12 PM
Dr. Rox:
You are quite right that the battles of the Somme and the Marne involved overlap with other places on my list of French WWI battlefield. Here is a map of selected battles, including Chateau-Thierry east of Paris by 54 miles and a small distance east of Reims as #3:

Map Selected WWI Battlefields (http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/wfmap.htm)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on January 23, 2010, 01:45:38 PM
There's one other issue on the Beatles leg/event in terms of transportation, especially if teams were sent to Liverpool rather than Hamburg.

The weather. Even during late November and early December, the weather in the UK and Europe was stormy and cased a lot of rail delays. Eurostar was closed several times (I recall reading it was closed for days at one point during the holiday period, which was just after filming ended.)

If we have some dates, it might be worthwhile to check the weather for the cities in England, France, and Germany to see if it helps point one way or the other.

An is there any chance teams went to Hamburg, and then had to go to Liverpool, and then Northern France? If Hamburg was only a route marker or for half a leg or something, it would still move teams along.

As to the Beatles' connections btw, there's always Abbey Road in London.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
Thanks apskip! Awesome transportation summary.

Another alternative that comes to mind would be for teams to to fly  into MANchester, which is the big international hub for that area, and then drive or take a train from there. I use that hub often, it is an easy airport.

I do wonder whether or not they would let them self drive when that involved driving on the left though? I know they have done it before when it mostly involved motorways, but in a small town it is different.  Some years I drive more miles on the left than I do here, but it is knack, and takes a little time to be comfortable.

I really like the thought of using the trains the best, fun to see!

Just for you, Peach, the connections to Manchester. Having connections in Heathrow to Manchester is a big plus which Liverpool does not have. From Sao Paulo there are 4 good ones departing in the evening:

GRU LHR BA246 1815 0715+1
LHR MAN BA1386 0855+1 0955+1

GRU FRA LH507 2005 1035+1
FRA MAN LH4852 1200+1 1240+1

GRU ZRH LX093 2030 1105+1
ZRH MAN LX394 1215+1 1310+1

GRU LHR JJ8084 2350 1325+1
LHR  MAN BA1396 1515+1 1615+1

There are also 3 combinations from Buenos Aires:

EZE LHR BA246 (same one as above stopping in GRU) 1315 0715+1
LHR MAN BA1386 0855+1 0955+1

EZE CDG AF417 1800 1100+1
CDG MAN AF2268 1315+1 1345+1

EZE FRA LH511 2150 1500+1
FRA MAN LH4856 1705+1 1745+1

to get from Manchester airport directly to Liverpool Lime Street, there are trains leaving at 41 after most hours of the day and arriving 1 hour 7 minutes later.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2010, 01:54:35 PM
There's one other issue on the Beatles leg/event in terms of transportation, especially if teams were sent to Liverpool rather than Hamburg.

The weather. Even during late November and early December, the weather in the UK and Europe was stormy and cased a lot of rail delays. Eurostar was closed several times (I recall reading it was closed for days at one point during the holiday period, which was just after filming ended.)

If we have some dates, it might be worthwhile to check the weather for the cities in England, France, and Germany to see if it helps point one way or the other.

An is there any chance teams went to Hamburg, and then had to go to Liverpool, and then Northern France? If Hamburg was only a route marker or for half a leg or something, it would still move teams along.

As to the Beatles' connections btw, there's always Abbey Road in London.

the Schnauzers, you say several worthy things, but Abbey Road could not have been part of the Beatles early history. That was in Liverpool and Hamburg in 1957 through 1961, followed by their world success, then doing Abbey Road starting in 1969.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2010, 04:16:50 PM
There's one other issue on the Beatles leg/event in terms of transportation, especially if teams were sent to Liverpool rather than Hamburg.

The weather. Even during late November and early December, the weather in the UK and Europe was stormy and cased a lot of rail delays. Eurostar was closed several times (I recall reading it was closed for days at one point during the holiday period, which was just after filming ended.)

If we have some dates, it might be worthwhile to check the weather for the cities in England, France, and Germany to see if it helps point one way or the other.

An is there any chance teams went to Hamburg, and then had to go to Liverpool, and then Northern France? If Hamburg was only a route marker or for half a leg or something, it would still move teams along.

As to the Beatles' connections btw, there's always Abbey Road in London.

Weather from Dec 5-10 in  Liverpool is listed as upper 40's, no precip, winds 10-20mph...but "events" say rain and fog. Not bad actually. :lol:

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/EGGP/2009/12/5/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Liverpool&req_state=&req_statename=United+Kingdom
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on January 23, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
I'm not sold on the one source pointing towards Liverpool yet, because the article might have been the result of a misunderstanding by that writer.

But then, we only have one spoiled article pointing towards Germany (in general), but the reference to the early days of the Beatles can be seen as support, Or maybe for both. If those dates seem pretty solid for the Europen legs, then checking all of the various possible venues would be worth while, if for no other reason than to see if weather might have caused a last minute change in any of the legs. (Think Family Edition and Belize.)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Sailing on January 23, 2010, 05:09:22 PM
I'm not sold on the one source pointing towards Liverpool yet, because the article might have been the result of a misunderstanding by that writer.

But then, we only have one spoiled article pointing towards Germany (in general), but the reference to the early days of the Beatles can be seen as support, Or maybe for both. If those dates seem pretty solid for the Europen legs, then checking all of the various possible venues would be worth while, if for no other reason than to see if weather might have caused a last minute change in any of the legs. (Think Family Edition and Belize.)

I have read 3 articles were Liverpool, England is mentioned. All three are by respected sources that are given Press Reports by CBS. It says  Beatles-centric puzzle in Liverpool, England as being a loction they visit this season.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2010, 05:10:01 PM
There are multiple articles out there now, theschnauzers, I think we are seeing a later press release.

http://www.etonline.com/gallery/featured/2010/01/83179/index.html

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a grueling World War I reenactment in France, retracing the early days of iconic rock group The Beatles in England and facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains.

I don't thtink there is any doubt any more, reporters don't make this stuff up, they work with the info they are given.

And weather during that time doesn't seem to be an issue in Liverpool, just another rainy day in the UK!


GMTA, Sailing! :ty3:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Sailing on January 23, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2010, 05:23:07 PM
I think it is another location. In spec the theory seems to be Darth Vador... :vader: If they had said universe and not world, we would know for sure!!

We know there were Storm Troopers at Lucas Films, Chateau and I got with-out-a-doubt confirmation of that.


Here is a nice article on Beatle mania week in Liverpool...did y'all know that 2010 marks the 40th anniversary of the Beatles breakup?? I didn't...

http://www.americanwaymag.com/the-beatles-liverpool-john-lennon-george-harrison

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There are many other similar Beatles points of interest around town to see as well, and the best way to hit them all is on a Magical Mystery Tour, which is offered not just during the Beatle Week festivities but year-round. The two-hour bus tour, accompanied by a soundtrack of Beatles tunes (appropriately matched to the sites), takes passengers to all four members’ childhood homes as well as to Penny Lane, Strawberry Field, and St. Peter’s Church in Woolton, where Lennon and McCartney first met at a fete in 1957 and where Eleanor Rigby is supposedly buried.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2010, 05:31:35 PM
There are multiple articles out there now, theschnauzers, I think we are seeing a later press release.

http://www.etonline.com/gallery/featured/2010/01/83179/index.html

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a grueling World War I reenactment in France, retracing the early days of iconic rock group The Beatles in England and facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains.

I don't thtink there is any doubt any more, reporters don't make this stuff up, they work with the info they are given.

And weather during that time doesn't seem to be an issue in Liverpool, just another rainy day in the UK!


GMTA, Sailing! :ty3:

I do think CBS is fine tuning their press releases a little more. This one

"Presumed Liverpool" Press Release (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b163172__lt_i_gt_Amazing_Race_lt__i_gt__Recruits_Cowboys__Models__Detectives__Oh_My_.html)

was from Thur, Jan 21,2010. It says "presumably Liverpool". I like Liverpool for "early years of Beatles".

Edited the date per Peache's question below.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2010, 05:45:45 PM
I think that one is from Thursday the 21st? I saw it in the flurry that day.

SO we moved from presumed trip to The Beatles in London to a puzzle.

Running around Liverpool finding the locations would be a puzzle. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: misterblah on January 25, 2010, 01:32:36 PM
From: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_en_tv/us_tv_amazing_race16
LOS ANGELES – Jet and Cord McCoy, a pair of bull-riding brothers from Tupelo, Okla., are among the 11 teams competing on the upcoming 16th edition of CBS's "The Amazing Race." Other teams competing this season include a grandmother and granddaughter, a father and daughter, married high-school sweethearts, and a couple of attorney moms.

Jet, 30, and Cord, 29, who have both competed on the International Professional Rodeo Association circuit, said they were not daunted by their competition for the $1 million grand prize on the reality show premiering Feb. 14 (8 p.m. EST).

"We ride bucking bulls and horses," said Jet. "If we're gonna be intimidated, it's not by another team."

"I can ride a horse as fast as they can go," said Cord.

The biggest hurdle facing Louis Stravato, 47, and Michael Naylor, 45, at the beginning of the race was their backpacks. After seeing the behemoth bags carried by the Harlem Globtrotters last season, the longtime buddies and narcotics detectives from Providence, R.I., chose not to pack lightly. They ended up ditching clothes along the way.

"We are the two biggest idiots," said Stravato. "Before the race, we kept telling ourselves that the cameramen were going to have to check their stuff, so we would be able to check our giant 90-liter bags while we were racing around the world. When we got to the starting line and saw all these small bags on everybody else, we knew we were in big trouble."

A few of this season's contestants have previously been in the spotlight, including former "Big Brother" houseguests Jordan Lloyd, 22, and Jeff Schroeder, 31, as well as former Miss Teen South Carolina Caitlin Upton, 20, who is racing with her boyfriend, Brent Horne, 28. Upton said she wanted to redeem herself on the race after her infamous 2007 pageant flub involving a confused and mangled response to a geography question.

"People always picture me as the typical pageant girl, and I'm not at all," said Upton. "I've only been in five pageants. I'm actually a very athletic person. I'm just tired of being represented from that standpoint. I want to show people who I really am as a person, that I am capable of accomplishing anything and doing anything I put my mind to."

Lloyd and Schroeder, who began dating after Lloyd won the 11th season of "Big Brother" last summer, said fans of the claustrophobic reality show might be surprised to see how much the duo bickered on the 16th season of "The Amazing Race," which was filmed last November and December and spanned nearly 40,000 miles across five continents and eight countries.

"I wasn't prepared for how much we had to work together," admitted Schroeder.

"He wanted to ring my neck," added Lloyd, "and other times I wanted to kill him."

"Jordan, I was trying to say it in a nice way," said Schroeder.

For the first time, when the teams departed "The Amazing Race" starting line, they had to rely solely on public transportation — no rental cars, no taxis — to make their way from downtown Los Angeles to the airport, a world-class challenge in itself. Executive producer Bertram van Munster said the racers then headed to Valparaiso, Chile. Other stops included France and the Seychelles.

"We have never been to that place before," van Munster said of the lush island destination off the east coast of Africa. "We were looking into going to Africa, but I couldn't find any countries that would fit into the entire scheme of the race, and I wanted to go to an original place. It's very beautiful. It's very remote. It takes forever to get there."
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: north09 on January 25, 2010, 03:28:45 PM
 :groan: Please read before you post misterblah.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Mattjimf on January 25, 2010, 03:53:15 PM
The weather in the UK at the start of December was typical autumn weather, no major snow or storms until the 18th. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8421994.stm

The 8th of Dec is the anniversary of John Lennon's death, also there was a film about John Lennon's early life called nowhere boy released at the beginning of December.

THe
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I think this is probably to do with the WW2 re-enactment, what with Hitler being involved and all. 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Sailing on January 25, 2010, 03:58:56 PM
The weather in the UK at the start of December was typical autumn weather, no major snow or storms until the 18th. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8421994.stm

The 8th of Dec is the anniversary of John Lennon's death, also there was a film about John Lennon's early life called nowhere boy released at the beginning of December.

THe
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I think this is probably to do with the WW2 re-enactment, what with Hitler being involved and all.  


It is a World War I battle they re-enact not World War II.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Mattjimf on January 25, 2010, 04:29:34 PM
The weather in the UK at the start of December was typical autumn weather, no major snow or storms until the 18th. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8421994.stm

The 8th of Dec is the anniversary of John Lennon's death, also there was a film about John Lennon's early life called nowhere boy released at the beginning of December.

THe
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I think this is probably to do with the WW2 re-enactment, what with Hitler being involved and all.  


It is a World War I battle they re-enact not World War II.

Ooops got a bit caught up.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2010, 04:33:01 PM
We have been discussing the villain in the speculation (remember speculation, lol?)  thread...chances are it could be Darth Vader.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: misterblah on January 26, 2010, 08:04:03 AM
oopsie! sorry! but just so you know, again, you should add two more locations: The Seychelles and France so you might wanna put that in your timeline.  :tup:
:groan: Please read before you post misterblah.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: north09 on January 27, 2010, 01:16:35 PM
oopsie! sorry! but just so you know, again, you should add two more locations: The Seychelles and France so you might wanna put that in your timeline.  :tup:
:groan: Please read before you post misterblah.

They are already listed on the first page in this thread, which is updated more frequently with the lastest information. Both locations were confirmed by CBS when the cast was released last week.  ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 28, 2010, 03:24:45 PM
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I thought Jack the Ripper for a while, but since we know they go see Darth Vader in San Fran, thats probably it!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations : Shanghai Elimination
Post by: georgiapeach on January 28, 2010, 07:08:08 PM

I am both pleased and very saddened to be able to update you on our Shanghai leg. Pleased because it is great information, saddened because it re-confirms what we already expected about the Philimination.. :'(

Slowhatch found a wonderful blog written by swoonist, who is currently working, living, and studying in Shanghai.

She wrote (in the process of showing a friend around Shanghai):

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We spent one day doing the touristy things of Shanghai.  We went over to Lujiazui to see the Pearl Tower and to go up the Shanghai World Financial Center building - currently the third tallest building in the world (according to wiki).  It’s the one that many of us think looks like a ‘bottle-opener’. After wandering about Lujiazui for a bit and grabbing a late lunch at Din Tai Fung, we eventually made it to the Riverside Promenade so that we could get a look across the river to the Bund on the Puxi side. We are standing around in the freezing cold, next to the freezing cold river when THE MOST AMAZING THING HAPPENED!

A few people run past us. The first thing that runs through my mind was, “oh no, they’re trying to steal my purse!” And then we saw the camera crew. Second thought that runs through my mind, “ITS THE AMAZING RACE!” Well, that was my theory at least.  I’ve always thought it would be pretty cool if I came across the Amazing Race during my time abroad. Michelle and I start running after them and ask them what they were filming for and the guy answers with the two coolest words, “Amazing Race.”

OH. MY. GOODNESS. At this point I couldn’t believe what was happening before my eyes. Ultimately, we found the pit stop for this leg of the race and waited around long enough to:

    1.    see two teams check in. Including the last team to arrive. I have no idea whether it was a non-elimination leg or not though
    2.    see one of the world’s tallest men. He’s a Chinese man and quite tall. Though I heard soon after that he just recently lost his title to someone else. He needed walking canes to help him stand though.
    3.    see the production crew of The Amazing Race.
    4.    see Phil, the host.
    5.    say “hi, I love this show” and get a photo with Phil.

The crew in charge of keeping the area clear of bystanders was nice enough to let Michi and I stand around. I believe they let us because they could tell we weren’t locals from our American accents and probably figured we could do no harm. Truth is, some Chinese locals will treat you differently once they know you’re a foreigner ... even if we are ethnically Chinese.

After that cold, amazing experience, Michi and I headed across the Huangpu River back to Puxi where we grabbed some dinner and took a walk down Nanjing Road. It’s just a shopping street but at night it’s all lit up and you can people watch. Weather: still cold
.


You can read much more about her experiences here:
http://swoonist.livejournal.com/124177.html


She is an absolute delight, and has very kindly responded to my huge list of questions, and graciously shared not only her story but her photos as well...so the credit for all of this goes to swoonist, with a big :ty from all of us.

She replied:

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The Pit Stop was on the Pudong side of the river (Lujiazui) along the Riverside Promenade. The exact location was the area that is directly in front of the Starbucks and Shangri-la Hotel. I saw them on Saturday, December 19 around 6pm-8pm (China time). The tall Chinese guy was the greeter. I hope this information helps you guys out with your TAR timeline.


Thanks to slowhatch, here's an Interactive map link with the starbucks (http://sh.edushi.com/?oid=14355)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Shanghai/TAR16ShanghaiEliminationMatlocation.jpg)


She also adds:

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While they were waiting for the team to arrive, Phil would help hold up the protective covering to keep the Chinese greeter warm. Since the Pit Stop was right next to the river and it was a really cold winter night, there were a few helpers who would help cover the greeter (probably not in perfect health due to his large body frame) from the cold.


She was incredibly fortunate in being able to obtain some photographs, and has shared those with us!! :hearts: I have lightened and brightened them a bit so we can see better...

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The first was taken in between the second to the last team and the last team to arrive. And the rest were pictures of Phil talking to the last team to arrive.  All photos were taken after the second to last team had already checked in and left the area.  My friend and I ran up to the area just as the second to last team were hugging each other and speaking to Phil.


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Shanghai/TAR16shanghaimat1backlit2.jpg)



The last team then arrived:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Shanghai/TAR16shanghaimat2backlit2.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Shanghai/TAR16shanghaimat3backlit2.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2016/Shanghai/TAR16shanghaimat4backlit.jpg)


The exif data for the first photo reads 12/19/09 at 18:55:40

From swoonist:
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I dont have many pictures to show because they initially refused to let us take photos. ........  So I was only able to get pictures of the last team to the Pit Stop.  In the photos, you will see the Chinese greeter (in full costume), Phil, and the male/male team that I think is Louie and Michael (tall and short males).  The photo was taken just before the last team arrived and after they had "checked-in" and Phil has that short conversation with them.


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 28, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
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I dont have many pictures to show because they initially refused to let us take photos.......So I was only able to get pictures of the last team to the Pit Stop.  


SO the next big question is WHO was the first team that swoonist saw?? Which was the second to last team to arrive, hence becoming the third place team in the Shanghai leg, and one of the Final Three.

I referred her to some team photos:, and she replied:

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The last 2 teams to check in were both male/male teams. Judging from the CBS website of the cast, I would say that the second to the last team was Daniel and Jordan and the last team was Louie and Michael. The second to the last team to check in were male/male and they weren't wearing cowboy hats (my assumption is that the cowboy team wears their hats throughout the race? I have no idea, haha). This second to the last team actually ran past my friend and me, but they ran in the wrong direction because a few minutes later they doubled back in the direction of the Pit Stop. The last team to check in was a tall male and a shorter male. They arrived at the Pit Stop almost 2 hours after the team before them. It seemed like Phil talked to the last team for quite awhile.

I think that is all that I have. I only saw the Pit Stop area and none of the tasks.


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 All photos were taken after the hatless m/m team had already checked in and left the area.  My friend and I ran up to the area just as the hatless m/m team were hugging each other and speaking to Phil.


She and I have discussed again which team it could have been. It is definitely a "hatless" M/M team, and based on photos, she believes seems more likely to be Jordan and Daniel.

We discussed if the cowboys could have been hatless and where they would have put them, if so. :lol:

She did say:
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Sorry I don't have pictures of any more teams.  But the other team I saw were definitely m/m and they didn't have any cowboy hats on. Maybe they decided to take their hats off during that part of the race? It was a little windy near the river and maybe they didn't want their hats to fly off?


So I think as the show airs, we can all watch to see how the "cowboys" handle their hats, and if they indeed wear them all the time. If so, then the last team seen checking into the final three becomes Jordan and Daniel. Until then, the team is the "hatless M/M team".


Some miscellaneous info:

The buildings behind them are part of a group of buildings known as "The Bund" in Shanghai.  They are located on the Puxi (Western) side of the Huangpu River.  So the brightly lit buildings you see are across the river.  There should be information about them on wikipedia. The Pit Stop was on the Pudong (Eastern) side of the Huangpu River in the Lujiazui area (where the Oriental Pearl Tower, Jin Mao Tower, the Shanghai World Financial Center and Super Brand Mall are).

wiki info on the Bund: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bund

Possible building behind from slowhatch:
I see something here (http://sh.edushi.com/?oid=15696), across the river from the starbucks; it has a similar shape, but the name translates only as "new bund building."

It's south of the Mcbain building. Look at the building with the cupolas next to the Attica (http://wikimapia.org/3482950/Attica) nightclub.

I wondered if it could be:
Russo-Chinese Bank Building (No. 15, The Bund) is now the Shanghai Foreign Exchange. 

Here's the English (http://www.icexpat.com/nm_AddressDetails;mid_EXP0eq22949.shtml) and translated Chinese (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.91office.cn%2Foffdetail9720.htm&sl=zh-CN&tl=en) version (click the thumbnail to enlarge). It's not big enough to be listed with Emporis, but I found a streetview (http://sh.city8.com/panosearch-pid3254380_F8KD-ptz218_19_90-ctps-sn_city8.html) for you. And here's (http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotos-g308272-d803728-Starbucks-Shanghai.html#19445576) a shot of the Starbucks taken from the ShangriLa hotel.

And also wondered if this was the greeter:
Could this be the tallest man??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao_Xishun
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: graytex on January 28, 2010, 07:16:32 PM
That is sad!   :'(

Here is our greeter:  Bao Xishun who is quite famous

(http://i48.[banned image hosting site].com/1yagd2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 28, 2010, 07:38:58 PM
It is sad. And seeing that he probably suffers from sort of a pituitary problem causung gigantism, and has skeletal problems, both slowhatch and I thought it seems rather cruel to have him waiting for hours there in the cold. :(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: ZBC Company on January 28, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
is a herdsman from Inner Mongolia, China, who was recognized by Guinness World Records as one of the world's tallest living men.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redwings8831 on January 28, 2010, 07:41:58 PM
is a herdsman from Inner Mongolia, China, who was recognized by Guinness World Records as one of the world's tallest living men.

Yes, I saw that word for word in wikipedia also. :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on January 28, 2010, 08:02:42 PM
The penultimate leg takes place at night. Sound familiar?

This means two legs in Shanghai, right?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 28, 2010, 08:07:55 PM


This means two legs in Shanghai, right?
Yes...refer to the Timeline thread for that discussion...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 28, 2010, 11:26:11 PM
It never rains but it pours....having an interesting spoiler day!! :yess:

Back on Dec 2, there was a FB post that said:

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ran into the Amazing Race today on the way to Bariloche, gave a team my map, now i don't know where the *** i am. December 2, 2009 at 6:46pm

I promptly wrote him, asked about the where/when/what/who of the sighting, and then never heard back.

Turns out that is becasuse he is on the road on a fabulous round the world journey...

Anyway,  just got a message that his blog had been updated with a description of the events and two photos. So enjoy!!

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Santiago was cool, but still a big city and only having a week left in South America, i wanted to see some Patagonia.  I looked into flights to El Calafate but they were supes expensive, so i went to the Bus station and hopped on a bus going south. On this bus was a camera crew and pairs of Americans that seemed to be working in teams.  A guy from one of the teams came to the back of the bus and asked if anyone spoke english.  Well next thing i know, he surreptitiously starts talking to me and asks if i knew where we were, where we were going, if i could change some currency for them and if i had any maps they could have.  Hmmmmmm putting 2 and 2 together i realized i was on a bus with the Amazing Race.  Well i helped the team, which was a father and daughter from SoCal, out as much as i could until they were off running, chased by cameras, looking for their rental car parked along some random st.  Bariloche is where i ended up and where i stayed till it was time to head back to Santiago for my flight to New Zealand.  It’s an picturesque mtn town nestled amongst lakes, forests, and peaks in the lakes district of Argentina, and the weather there was spectacular. 

There is a pic of Steve and Alli I believe, and one of a group of racers looking as though they are rearranging their gear...

Will link to the blog and the pics...it is halfway down the 1/24 post!! :hearts:

Thanks jebber!! :waves:

http://earthtojebber.com/


So....Teams travel by bus Santiago to Bariloche on 12/2..... or somewhere in between?? ??? Slowhatch has pointed out that while Jebber went to Bariloche, teams could have exited before hand. per slowhatch, there doesn't seem to be any direct lines Santiago-Bariloche; bus passengers connect to another service in Osorno or Puerto Montt and make the final leg to Bariloche.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Chateau d If on January 29, 2010, 01:16:31 AM
[ Notice all the minders they have on the ridgeline watching for outsiders. Chateau.  :lol:

Fixed.  ;)

Thanks for the location!!  :jumpy:

 :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 29, 2010, 03:15:11 AM
So....Teams travel by bus Santiago to Bariloche on 12/2..... or somewhere in between?? ??? Slowhatch has pointed out that while Jebber went to Bariloche, teams could have exited before hand. per slowhatch, there doesn't seem to be any direct lines Santiago-Bariloche; bus passengers connect to another service in Osorno or Puerto Montt and make the final leg to Bariloche.


More great info from jebber!!  :thankyou: again!!

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Cool Thanks, yeah the pick is of everyone grabbing their gear, teams and camera crews, as they were dropped off about an hour out of Bariloche. We were on a bus coming from Osorno. I think they were dropped around Villa de la Angostra, and they had to end up at some Bar called the Old Joint (although it must be a nickname cuz i couldnt find it). Their team was supposedly not doing too well. The Dad was Smitty, and him and his daughter were from San Diego. She goes to Pepperdine University. Thats all i remember.. oh and something about a poker game
Ciao
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 29, 2010, 06:59:04 AM
It never rains but it pours....having an interesting spoiler day!! :yess:

Back on Dec 2, there was a FB post that said:

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ran into the Amazing Race today on the way to Bariloche, gave a team my map, now i don't know where the *** i am. December 2, 2009 at 6:46pm

I promptly wrote him, asked about the where/when/what/who of the sighting, and then never heard back.

Turns out that is becasuse he is on the road on a fabulous round the world journey...

Anyway,  just got a message that his blog had been updated with a description of the events and two photos. So enjoy!!

Quote
Santiago was cool, but still a big city and only having a week left in South America, i wanted to see some Patagonia.  I looked into flights to El Calafate but they were supes expensive, so i went to the Bus station and hopped on a bus going south. On this bus was a camera crew and pairs of Americans that seemed to be working in teams.  A guy from one of the teams came to the back of the bus and asked if anyone spoke english.  Well next thing i know, he surreptitiously starts talking to me and asks if i knew where we were, where we were going, if i could change some currency for them and if i had any maps they could have.  Hmmmmmm putting 2 and 2 together i realized i was on a bus with the Amazing Race.  Well i helped the team, which was a father and daughter from SoCal, out as much as i could until they were off running, chased by cameras, looking for their rental car parked along some random st.  Bariloche is where i ended up and where i stayed till it was time to head back to Santiago for my flight to New Zealand.  It’s an picturesque mtn town nestled amongst lakes, forests, and peaks in the lakes district of Argentina, and the weather there was spectacular.  

There is a pic of Steve and Alli I believe, and one of a group of racers looking as though they are rearranging their gear...

Will link to the blog and the pics...it is halfway down the 1/24 post!! :hearts:

Thanks jebber!! :waves:

http://earthtojebber.com/


So....Teams travel by bus Santiago to Bariloche on 12/2..... or somewhere in between?? ??? Slowhatch has pointed out that while Jebber went to Bariloche, teams could have exited before hand. per slowhatch, there doesn't seem to be any direct lines Santiago-Bariloche; bus passengers connect to another service in Osorno or Puerto Montt and make the final leg to Bariloche.

Peach,
Note that jebber said "Bariloche is where I ended up." and that he does not say that teams were on the bus the entire way. Such a bus would have logically on from Puerto Varas to Puerto Montt and that up and over Andes mountain passes by road. I agree with your "or somewhere in between" comment and believe that Puerto Varas is that place. It was there in my opinion that teams switched transportation mode and went by the Andean Lake Crossing route, with local buses on either end connecting with the majority of that crossing on lakes. This is speculation on my part but it fits perfectly.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redskevin88 on January 29, 2010, 07:21:09 AM
It is sad. And seeing that he probably suffers from sort of a pituitary problem causung gigantism, and has skeletal problems, both slowhatch and I thought it seems rather cruel to have him waiting for hours there in the cold. :(

I think they usually set up the mat only seconds/minutes when the teams arrive... I remember Allan Wu saying that he had to race a team to the pit stop to get there first because they were so fast.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 29, 2010, 09:22:33 AM
Peach:

I have been motivated to check into the geography between Osorno and Puerto Varas and Bariloche in more detail. There are 4 bus companies that list services to Bariloche from Santiago, Osorno or Puerto Varas. I can only get online information for one of them, Tas Choapa, and it lists daily buses from Osorno at 10am and 1030am and from Puerto Varas (run started in Puerto Montt) at 840am. Presumably Cruz del Sur, Condor and Pullman each also have one bus daily.

The route from Osorno goes east through Puyehue, crosses the border and then the first significant Argentinian place it hits is Villa La Angostura. Teams could go up Cerro Bayo (covered previously and known for its adventure tourism). That would be an ideal place to have the tandem paragliding that lands in Lake Nahuel Huapi. From Villa la Angostura it is a modest distance to Bariloche.

Now we get to the problem of conflicting eyewitness information. In the summary on page 1 of the Timelines thread, pudding lists:

PIT STOP: Grotto of Lourdes, Puerto Varas
EVIDENCE: Teams photographed at pit stop

That was based on earlier information which I believe to be still true. If teams took the bus from Osorno east into Argentina as above, then they could not have any stop or pit stop in Puerto Varas as they would never be within 75miles of Puerto Varas. If they did have a pit stop in Puerto Varas, then they still could get to Villa la Angostura after going from Puerto Varas to Bariloche (as identified in some of my earlier posts). Which version do you want to believe?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on January 29, 2010, 12:15:10 PM
Maybe the team(s) was/were doing bad because they got bad information and were told to head over to Osorno before making their way to  Bariloche and Villa La Angostura by locals.  And they were on his bus from Osorno to Bariloche, and got off when they hit Villa La Angostura.   Becuase his info was also coming after leg 2 presumably ended.  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: chill_sd on January 29, 2010, 12:52:08 PM
It appears that the buses from Puerto Varas go through Osorno and Villa la Angostura on the way to Bariloche.

It's possible that they had a task in Angostura (possibly involving bitters) before the pit stop in Bariloche.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Uncle Bill on January 29, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
 I found this blog didn't know if anyone found it before but it say the farm they stay on will be on amazing race in feb. I couldn't get it to move to the forum som maybe you can if you feel it is info we need. Its from grand central travel site. Thanks

   
December Chile-Argentina trip Published date: January 05, 2010
Traveler: Lorenzo from San Francisco, CA traveled on December 21, 2009
Enjoyed this trip. Unlike most of the reviewers, I liked Santiago a lot and thought it had lots to offer. The people are lovely and it's a clean city. The Moneda Cultural Center, Neruda house would have been a good additon to the program. Don't miss Valparaiso, it should definitely be part of the Santiago program and not an option. Hint: the commuter buses go there from the Alameda train station every 15 minutes for about $15 round trip. The country is totally safe and clean.

Marco, our tour guide is the absolute best. They should clone this guy. Thoughtful, entertaining, flexible and able to respond to anything with grace and calm. Puerto Varas seemed like a wasted visit to me - the hotel was shabby. The rodeo and german museum visits were good, but the lake crossing for a lunch and short walk seemed pointless if you are not going to go all the way to Bariloche. Bariloche was beautiful but windy and cold - bring not just "layers" but a heavy coat, gloves, scarf, thermal undewear. The young sheep farm host was hilarious and the farm will be featured on the Amazing Race in February. Buenos Aires was great - gorgeous world class city, great for walking. Tango dinner show was so-so, but the tango class was great and the lecture on politics was outstanding. They need to get some younger folks or families for the home hosted dinner. Don't miss the Museum of Fine Arts near that gorgeous stainless steel floral sculpture - it's free and filled with amzing works by European and South American masters. Try not to do this trip over Christmas - everything is closed in Santiago and BA over the holidays all the locals are gone, and theater, museums and restaurants are closed or hard to book. Overall, a recommended trip for the US winter (and their summer) and a good value.
 

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 29, 2010, 01:52:40 PM
We already have that Uncle bill...but thanks! puddin found it first back in December, the repost is here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21253.msg508098.html#msg508098
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 29, 2010, 03:12:17 PM
It appears that the buses from Puerto Varas go through Osorno and Villa la Angostura on the way to Bariloche.

It's possible that they had a task in Angostura (possibly involving bitters) before the pit stop in Bariloche.

chill_sd,
It is possible that teams went north from Puerto Varas to Osorno to then east to Villa Angostura instead of directly east from Puerto Vaaras to get to Bariloche. However, if you look at a road map of Argentina you would conclude that WRP would not send teams an extra 120 miles to go via Osorno. It was (and is) summer in Chile so there should be no problematic local road conditions on either route.

I think teams did have a task in Villa de Angostura, doing the condor/birdman tandem paragliding. Cerro Bayo is one of the few spots where you could get the equipment up high enough for a decent launch. Now, if that was the case, then you could subtract about 100 miles for a net of about 20 extra to go to Villa de Angostura via Bariloche.

If there is a task involving Angostura bitters, it would be a fluke as Angostura bitters only manufacturing facility is on the island of Trinidad in the Caribbean. They share only the name Angostura with Villa de Angostura.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: chill_sd on January 29, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
chill_sd,
It is possible that teams went north from Puerto Varas to Osorno to then east to Villa Angostura instead of directly east from Puerto Vaaras to get to Bariloche. However, if you look at a road map of Argentina you would conclude that WRP would not send teams an extra 120 miles to go via Osorno. It was (and is) summer in Chile so there should be no problematic local road conditions on either route.

I will, of course bow to your expertise in these matters, apskip.  The maps I have been able to find do not show a route East out of Puerto Varas or Puerto Montt accross the Andes to Bariloche.  The simplest solution I could find was to go North to Route 215, then continue on to Route 231 in Argentina.

The few bus schedules I was able to locate seemed to indicate that buses from Puerto Veras/Puerto Montt passed through or made connections in Osorno.  And since Jebber's bus from Santiago also made a connection in Orsono, it all seemed to fit the timeline.

It's going to be interesting to see how all this fits together when the episode airs.

You are also correct about the connection (or lack thereof) between Villa la Angostura and Angostura™ Bitters (which was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, but I forgot to put in a smilie).  It's just curious that they were supposedly looking for a bar.

Perhaps the task will have something to do with narowness (literal translation of "angostura" ;))
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 29, 2010, 03:57:34 PM
Anybody having any luck with "old Joint" ??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on January 29, 2010, 07:02:43 PM
i still think that Steve and Allie (along with at least one other team) took the wrong bus and had to use the unneeded Osorno connection, and just happened to be on the same connection as this Jebber guy.

I have some doubts that WRP would out right tell teams which bus to take.  You know, let teams figure things out for themselves.  And if teams took the long way, then too bad for those teams.  Sort of like the flights.  Only in specific cases are teams told which flight they have to take.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 29, 2010, 07:11:37 PM
Did you see the picture?? Multiple teams...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DavidJunior on January 29, 2010, 07:50:15 PM
maybe a bunch of teams came to the same conclusion?

and then found out that they were on the wrong bus?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: jerseydude on January 29, 2010, 07:58:25 PM
maybe a bunch of teams came to the same conclusion?

and then found out that they were on the wrong bus?

Could it be that this was faster than a direct bus sort of like TAR2, which the Grannies and some other teams went through Sao Paulo rather than direct.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hooky on January 29, 2010, 11:40:40 PM
Did you see the picture?? Multiple teams...

It looks like about 3 or 4 teams with their camera crews...it's entirely possible the rest of the teams took a different option.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on January 29, 2010, 11:45:58 PM
Or a different bus. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hooky on January 29, 2010, 11:47:42 PM
Or a different bus. :lol:

That's what I meant. Has it been a long day for you, peach? :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: apskip on January 30, 2010, 12:12:10 AM
I like the hypotheses that others have been presenting on this thread, as they are moving us forward. I have a possible explanation for why some teams could be on the 840am bus from Puerto Varas while others go through Osorno. It is necessity is the mother of invention.

Teams check in at a variety of times due to varying task performance. The lead teams would have the opportunity to go on the earliest bus and would be foolish not to do so. Later teams, as long as they were able to find a way (I went back to the bus schedules and there is nothing on either Cruz del Sur or Tas Choapa from Puerto Varas to Osorno) need to get to Osorno no later than 1030am. Maybe teams get there by taxi. Given the only schedule that I have, 10am or 1030am departures from Osorno, create severe difficulty in reaching this alternative in time. However, who knows. Maybe the spread of Puerto Varas release times was fairly tight and centered around 840am. That would allow feasibility
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2010, 08:42:59 PM
As we wait on the start of the race, I have been rereading as much of the spoiler threads as possible in preparation for the show.

And I am amazed all over again at the wonderful teamwork that went into this season!!

As I reread the tweets, the excitement of the start line comes alive...and what fun to follow that day (and all the others!) knowing what we do now!!

So a :thankyou: BIG THANKYOU :thankyou:
to everyone who tirelessly searched and followed tweets and leads and blogs and articles!
Our new BB friends, Detectives, members, newbies, eyewitnesses...  I can't name you all, but it is you ALL who make this forum the best on the Internet for TAR spoilers!!


:party: Great job everyone!! :party:

:ty
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Mister RC on February 13, 2010, 11:22:09 PM
And thank YOU Peach!  You too have been very helpful with all the spoiler stuff and everything else TAR16 related.  Much appreciated!

Let me be (among) the first to wish you and everyone else a happy TARsday!!  It's going to be an awesome 12 weeks of great locations (along with the other stuff)!

Nice to see a return of more continents this year!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 14, 2010, 04:38:08 AM
Yes, a huge thanks to all who contributed. Thanks guys, you're all awesome! :hearts:

Get ready, TAR is hours away! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Jobby on February 15, 2010, 12:47:21 PM
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Jet & Cord (Spotted en route to USA) Final 3
Brent & Caitlin(Spotted en route to USA) Final 3
Dan & Jordan (Spotted en route to USA) Final 3

I'm certainly. hoping. this. won't. be. true. :lol:

That means my favourites will get eliminated 5th and 6th again, like always. :(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hooky on February 15, 2010, 06:33:10 PM
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Jet & Cord (Spotted en route to USA) Final 3
Brent & Caitlin(Spotted en route to USA) Final 3
Dan & Jordan (Spotted en route to USA) Final 3

I'm certainly. hoping. this. won't. be. true. :lol:

Me too. But if it does, go Jet & Cord! The other two are just too annoying to deserve it.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2010, 05:37:16 AM
Back to Hamburg instead of Liverpool??:

i think we can now update the last unknown country, Germany

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=299761&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=14396511

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on February 20, 2010, 09:33:17 AM
one more thing, phil mentioned that this season will feature a zig-zag route, so which comes after which, i am confused?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on February 20, 2010, 10:20:36 AM
This gives credence to the Argentine/Chilean newspaper report in Spanish we had early on that had spoiled an early team elimination, and quoted a production source that had them traveling next to Germany.

My recollection is that even if CBS doesn't issue a press release this early, they do release listings information directly to the various publishers who compile that information for newspapers, TV magazines, TV programming web sites, and cable programming guides. If it's the for the fourth leg (i.e., staying two weeks ahead for the data) then the timing is right on schedule.

Now, does that totally eliminate England or Liverpool? Possibly not. All we have to go on, basically, is what CBS released just before the season started. Given that the Fab Four would commute between Hamburg and Liverpool by ferry in their early days, I could see something like that to allow production to get ahead of the teams.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hooky on February 20, 2010, 12:20:18 PM
Right now the timeline already has the fourth leg as an unknown. I think it will go like this:

Leg 4: Germany
Leg 5: England
Leg 6: France
Leg 7: Seychelles

Just put Germany in as the unknown country and there you have it.

EDIT: That's not possible with 8 foreign countries, though. Maybe we will have to boot out England or France, but it seems pretty obvious that Germany will be first of the European countries.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2010, 01:18:40 PM
Not necessarily Hooky. We can have EITHER Germany or England but not both, if we believe 8 countries. France is sure because of the WWI reenactment.

We have a discepency here...we have a newspaper article from earlier saying teams go to Germany. We have a media article saying teams go to England...one of them is wrong. I don't know where TV guide got their info..if it is a press relaease the rest of us don't have it yet (and according to puddin, won't until after ep 3). So hard to say if we believe their info yet or not.

I think we may have to just wait and see. Since we don't know where the TV Guide info orginates from, I am reluctant to give up on Liverpool just yet, but it may well be Germany instead. :duno:

ANd we don't know for sure that France precedes the Seychelles, but that does seem more likely than Seychelles>>France.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2010, 01:37:11 PM
CBS should update the episode title tonight around 9pm ET so .....

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/schedule
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Neobie on February 20, 2010, 01:40:46 PM
Not necessarily Hooky. We can have EITHER Germany or England but not both, if we believe 8 countries. France is sure because of the WWI reenactment.

We have a discepency here...we have a newspaper article from earlier saying teams go to Germany. We have a media article saying teams go to England...one of them is wrong. I don't know where TV guide got their info..if it is a press relaease the rest of us don't have it yet (and according to puddin, won't until after ep 3). So hard to say if we believe their info yet or not.

I think we may have to just wait and see. Since we don't know where the TV Guide info orginates from, I am reluctant to give up on Liverpool just yet, but it may well be Germany instead. :duno:

ANd we don't know for sure that France precedes the Seychelles, but that does seem more likely than Seychelles>>France.

I feel that the Argentinean press is more reliable. I can see how Liverpool can result as an assumption from "early days of the Beatles," but back in the early days of December I don't see what could have caused the Argentinean article to pluck the word "Germany" out of thin air. That same article has been reliable so far on the South American destinations, and there's very little ambiguity in the sentence, I believe.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2010, 01:45:17 PM
from the official release (,)

Teams will participate in a grueling World War I reenactment in France, retrace the early days of the iconic rock group, The Beatles, and come face-to-face with one of the world's most infamous villains.

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/original?id=6104&dpid=56
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2010, 02:34:42 PM
Well, TV Guide got that from somewhere, :lol: so we may have to go with the 2 out of 3 Germany. :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Sailing on February 20, 2010, 05:48:09 PM
I found some websites about the Beatles in Hamburg,Germany:

This one talks about the new Beatlemania museum that opened there in May 2009:

http://www.examiner.com/x-4732-Celebrity-Travel-Examiner~y2009m6d21-New-Beatles-museum-opens-in-Hamburg-Germany

Ths is the official German Beatlemania museum site :

http://www.beatlemania-hamburg.com/english/index.html

Another site:

http://www.beatles-history.net/hamburg-germany.html
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on February 20, 2010, 10:53:49 PM
CBS should update the episode title tonight around 9pm ET so .....

http://www.cbspres***press.com/div.php/cbs_entertainment/schedule

This clears it up a bit...
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Amazing Race 16 - We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt (Germany)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Caelestor on February 20, 2010, 11:00:56 PM
Germany again?  :'(

Oh well, one could have hoped.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2010, 11:15:07 PM
Thanks wp...Germany it is!!

Bye Liverpool!  :(

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03/07 60 Minutes Amazing Race 16 - We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt (Germany)


So..Argentina>>Germany>>France>>Seychelles??

and will add here that I think Fort Seclin is very probable for the WWI reenactment. (http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5097.gif)

And which other location will be the last double leg??

We have 2 in Chile, 2 in Singapore (I think?? ??? ) and 2 in Shanghai...so we need one more double, right??

I'll keep my fingers crossed for the Seychelles!!  :yess:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: AmazingDT on February 20, 2010, 11:21:06 PM
I thought that there were 3 legs in Europe.  So doesnt that mean either france or Germany has 2 legs? :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on February 20, 2010, 11:57:09 PM
This clears it up a bit...
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Amazing Race 16 - We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt (Germany)

 :lol: ...that title suggests our racers are in the sleazy part of Hamburg (the Red Light District of Reeperbahn)  :snicker:

which by the way is the same area as the Beatlemania Museum... go figure....   :keeta:

Hamburg's red-light district (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/lifestyle/travel/features/article_1493584.php/Unconventional-tours-lay-bare-Hamburg-s-red-light-district)    :colors
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on February 21, 2010, 12:30:59 AM
 :lol:  Beatles Platz     ........good location for a clubox....  ;)

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-71.jpg)
(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/AllAboutTAR/index-72.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Evan_Weinstein on February 21, 2010, 12:47:42 AM
i dun think Singapore have double legs, anyway :'( Bye Liverpool
Thanks wp...Germany it is!!

Bye Liverpool!  :(

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03/07 60 Minutes Amazing Race 16 - We Are No Longer in the Bible Belt (Germany)


So..Argentina>>Germany>>France>>Seychelles??

and will add here that I think Fort Seclin is very probable for the WWI reenactment. (http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5097.gif)

And which other location will be the last double leg??

We have 2 in Chile, 2 in Singapore (I think?? ??? ) and 2 in Shanghai...so we need one more double, right??

I'll keep my fingers crossed for the Seychelles!!  :yess:


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: DrRox on February 21, 2010, 07:48:02 AM
If I am not mistaken, this is the orginal Liverpool spoiler........The writer is pretty specific as to what they do in Liverpool, not just going to Liverpool.


Bringing this over from Sailing's find in spec:

It appears that it may be Liverpool instead of Hamburg, based on this press release:

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/tube-talk/tv-news/2010/01/amazing-race-returns-feb-14-here-are-the-teams/


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...now the question is whether it will survive a race around the world, including a first stop in Chile and later challenges including the reenactment of a World War I battle in France and a Beatles-centric puzzle in Liverpool, England.


Here is Sailing's comment......

I'm not sold on the one source pointing towards Liverpool yet, because the article might have been the result of a misunderstanding by that writer.

But then, we only have one spoiled article pointing towards Germany (in general), but the reference to the early days of the Beatles can be seen as support, Or maybe for both. If those dates seem pretty solid for the Europen legs, then checking all of the various possible venues would be worth while, if for no other reason than to see if weather might have caused a last minute change in any of the legs. (Think Family Edition and Belize.)

I have read 3 articles were Liverpool, England is mentioned. All three are by respected sources that are given Press Reports by CBS. It says  Beatles-centric puzzle in Liverpool, England as being a loction they visit this season.


And a follow-up by Peach.


There are multiple articles out there now, theschnauzers, I think we are seeing a later press release.

http://www.etonline.com/gallery/featured/2010/01/83179/index.html

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a grueling World War I reenactment in France, retracing the early days of iconic rock group The Beatles in England and facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains.

I don't thtink there is any doubt any more, reporters don't make this stuff up, they work with the info they are given.

And weather during that time doesn't seem to be an issue in Liverpool, just another rainy day in the UK!


GMTA, Sailing! :ty3:

I am wondering just where the 8 countries info came from. I know it came from CBS.......but WHO in CBS or WRP? The Seychelles are independent and part of the British Commonwealth. IF that came from BVM, maybe he pulled a reverse Burkina Faso on us, thinking it was part of Britian and not a separate country. I know its pretty far fetched, or maybe he thinks that Singapore is part of Malaysia.

There is lots of info from multiple sources that Liverpool is part of TAR 16. I dont think it was just one reporter's mis-intrepretation of CBS press releases. Like Sailing, I too read several different news releases stating TAR activity in Liverpool. It certainly will be interesting to see just how they get from Bariloche, Ar to the Seychelles!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: walkingpneumonia on February 21, 2010, 10:59:10 AM
Hmm, found this posted on the Cavern Beatles guestbook. The Cavern Beatles are a Beatles cover band who were touring Germany in the correct time period.
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January 28th 2010 04:11:10 PM
Name:reallycold
Please enter comments here
Do you know when the episode of the amazing race you appear in will be broadcast?

Posted here - http://www.cavernbeatles.com/guestbook1.htm (http://www.cavernbeatles.com/guestbook1.htm)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Boingo on February 21, 2010, 04:00:53 PM
 :lol: ...well, well, well, talk about coincidence....  :groan:  Paul McCartney just happened to playing a concert at the Color Line Arena, in Hamburg, Germany on December 2, 2009.

blog (http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2009/12/hamburg_salutes_the_beatles.html)
McCartney concert setlist (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/paul-mccartney/2009/color-line-arena-hamburg-germany-3bd71c44.html)
concert review (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/live-music-reviews/6716770/Paul-McCartney-at-the-Color-Line-Arena-Hamburg-review.html)

Which, if our TAR timeline is right, just happens to be a day of two before the racers arrive in Hamburg.   :lol:  hmmmmmm.....   wonder if he stuck around to be part of the episode?   ;)

eta:...oh, nevermind, he was in Berlin on the 3rd, Netherlands on the 8th, Paris the 9th, Cologne on the 16, and London the 22nd.  gosh darn it ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: theschnauzers on February 21, 2010, 05:19:57 PM
If the time line is right, it's still a possibility as Hamburg isn't that far out of the way, (and Paul probably uses private jets a lot.)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: Hooky on February 21, 2010, 05:20:51 PM
I just don't know...Germany won't go away, but England refuses to back down, either. :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
Post by: redskevin88 on February 21, 2010, 06:22:53 PM
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I know its pretty far fetched, or maybe he thinks that Singapore is part of Malaysia.

Even if BVM has a lack of geography skills, he should know that we gained our independence 45 years ago....