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Title: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 10:53:03 PM
11/29 Amazing Race 15 - It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying (Czech Republic)

ONE TEAM TAKES A FOUR-HOUR PENALTY WHEN UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE ROADBLOCK, AND ANOTHER TEAM DODGES INTOXICATED  LOCALS WHILE ATTEMPTING TO COMPLETE A DETOUR, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 29
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

   "It Starts With an "F," That's All I'm Saying (Czech Republic)" — One team decides to take a four-hour penalty when they're unable to complete a Roadblock, and another team dodges intoxicated locals while trying to complete their Detour, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 29 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is th
Title: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Caelestor on November 14, 2009, 10:55:38 PM
11/29 Amazing Race 15 - It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying (Czech Republic)


This season has some great quotes, that's all I can say.  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 14, 2009, 10:58:26 PM
Assuming they're still in the race, something smells Globetrotter about this quote! I LOVE this one, almost as good as "They Thought Godzilla Was Walking Down The Street"!

Or maybe Sam & Dan take their bickering to the next level... :meow:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: DavidJunior on November 15, 2009, 12:24:23 AM
i've heard this one before, it's clearly "firetruck". :P
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Ray! on November 15, 2009, 12:58:48 AM
First? Fourth? FAIL?! F***? :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 15, 2009, 04:11:36 AM
 :colealert: Let's go through the whole 'F' section of the dictionary, and we might be able to figure out one of their tasks!  :spell
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 15, 2009, 04:16:51 AM
Unknown Racer: It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying

Translated as:  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: topaz on November 15, 2009, 05:32:02 AM
that title reminds me of watching South Park! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 15, 2009, 09:50:40 AM
All I can say is that this is the BEST title for this season.  :funny:  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 11:22:19 AM
Oh lordie...I think we are gonna need a TITLE thread.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: north09 on November 15, 2009, 12:35:02 PM
12/6 Amazing Race 15 - It Ends With a “K”, That’s All I’m Saying (Las Vegas)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 15, 2009, 03:36:14 PM
12/6 Amazing Race 15 - It Ends With a K, Thats All Im Saying (Las Vegas)
:lol3: :winner
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Mandoli on November 15, 2009, 04:18:41 PM
This whole thread has me in effin stitches. :lol:
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: zetapsi75 on November 15, 2009, 11:23:47 PM
Sorry not to be joking on this one, but it's probably Phil telling whoever wins what place theyre in.
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Ray! on November 16, 2009, 04:01:23 AM
When I read the title, I read it as "Flight Time said the title?". :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: topaz on November 16, 2009, 07:02:11 AM
12/6 Amazing Race 15 - It Ends With a K, Thats All Im Saying (Las Vegas)
or what about this:
12/6 Amazing Race 15 - It Starts With an "S" and Ends with a "T", That's All I'm Saying.
;D

btw, what if Eric Cartman was on pit stop and he'd greeted to a team and he said to them, "Welcome to Prague, you f***!!!"  That'll be the funniest scene on the TAR history! :jumpy:
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 20, 2009, 07:05:12 PM
Or  taking another path...suppose someone lost a clue...is begging for help to find the location...and is told "It started with an F, is all I am saying...


But the other answers are far funnier!! :jam:
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Mandoli on November 22, 2009, 08:35:27 PM
After watching the preview, I think it's during what I expect to be that telephone task.
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Dnooky on November 22, 2009, 08:39:38 PM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: north09 on November 22, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
Put together the preview and the episode title, one of our locations should include the letters F and A.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 22, 2009, 08:41:31 PM
Put together the preview and the episode title, one of our locations should include the letters F and A.

Maybe it relates to the Phone task??  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 22, 2009, 08:42:12 PM
Considering Meghan says, "A" in the preview, I'm thinking "F" is part of the clue as well.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 22, 2009, 08:42:55 PM
a night in prague brings out the teams darkside

Roadblock
Dan: hello
Voice:N
Vocie to Meghan :A
Meghan:A

Dan and Sam bicker, some sort of clay mummy?  :lol:

looks like maybe Brian and Ericka are doing the speedbump ?

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Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 22, 2009, 08:45:00 PM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Wow Frank Kafza!! Is he from one of your detour task in your game, Dan?? Maybe the detour is the same task??  :lol: :lol:


Is it Frank Kafza as Dan speculate??

Sam and Dan doing a detour.. Look like Golum to me.. Clay Golum..
Yah positive Brian and Ericka doing Speedbump.. Or other detour.. Think Speed Bump..

And the telephone task is horrible,, so many.. RB.. and i think the answer maybe Frank Kafza??
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Dnooky on November 22, 2009, 08:47:33 PM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Wow Frank Kafza!! Is he from one of your detour task in your game, Dan?? Maybe the detour is the same task??  :lol: :lol:
I thought about it because in the Franz Kafka museum in Prague, there's this creepy labyrinth with a phone at the end which keeps ringing and you can actually answer it. It's supposed to be a symbol of the bueraucracy and how it drove Kafka nuts.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 22, 2009, 08:51:52 PM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Wow Frank Kafza!! Is he from one of your detour task in your game, Dan?? Maybe the detour is the same task??  :lol: :lol:
I thought about it because in the Franz Kafka museum in Prague, there's this creepy labyrinth with a phone at the end which keeps ringing and you can actually answer it. It's supposed to be a symbol of the bueraucracy and how it drove Kafka nuts.

I think the RB answer is Frank Kafza and bring them to the Frank Kafza Museum for the detour??
I saw the Clay Golum form there.. Maybe is in the museum??  :duno:




I think the quote is from one of the trotter telling the one doing the RB??  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 22, 2009, 08:56:14 PM
Lol
I thought Speed Bumps were something relaxing. Like Yoga or Saunas?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 22, 2009, 09:06:54 PM
Here is it..

(http://i46.[banned image hosting site].com/ok5s75.jpg)

Golem!! I think Sam and Dan is moving the Clay Golem..

From Wiki:

As the Golem of Prague was the first that had been seen up until then, it was always called Golem, in other words that was simply its name.

In later history, the word was generalized into a more common term for this class of beings: golems. Many other golems appeared in culture, inspired by the original Golem from Prague. Some referred back to the original story, others used the concept of golems without any reference to Prague at all, ignoring or even not knowing its origin and original purpose.

Think the detour is at Frank Kafza Museum as from wiki:

Nobel Prize winner Isaac Bashevis Singer wrote a short story called "A Friend of Kafka," which was about a Yiddish actor called Jacques Kohn who said he knew Franz Kafka. In this story, according to Jacques Kohn, Kafka believed in the Golem, a legendary creature from Jewish folklore.
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2009, 09:09:23 PM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Why Dan? ???
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Dnooky on November 22, 2009, 09:22:40 PM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Why Dan? ???

I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Wow Frank Kafza!! Is he from one of your detour task in your game, Dan?? Maybe the detour is the same task??  :lol: :lol:
I thought about it because in the Franz Kafka museum in Prague, there's this creepy labyrinth with a phone at the end which keeps ringing and you can actually answer it. It's supposed to be a symbol of the bueraucracy and how it drove Kafka nuts.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 22, 2009, 09:23:32 PM
good job autowil!

preview
   
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: north09 on November 22, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
12/6 Amazing Race 15 - It Ends With a K, Thats All Im Saying (Las Vegas)
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Wow Frank Kafza!! Is he from one of your detour task in your game, Dan?? Maybe the detour is the same task??  :lol: :lol:
I thought about it because in the Franz Kafka museum in Prague, there's this creepy labyrinth with a phone at the end which keeps ringing and you can actually answer it. It's supposed to be a symbol of the bueraucracy and how it drove Kafka nuts.

Well I'll be damned  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 22, 2009, 09:28:12 PM
Rose would be proud of you autowil  :tup:
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2009, 09:31:31 PM
Thanks Dan!! great idea! And thanks for the research will!! Good thinking guys!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2009, 09:38:36 PM
Nice job DAN and WIL!! :yess:

From the title thread:



I think "F" is for Franz Kafka


I thought about it because in the Franz Kafka museum in Prague, there's this creepy labyrinth with a phone at the end which keeps ringing and you can actually answer it. It's supposed to be a symbol of the bueraucracy and how it drove Kafka nuts.




 i think is Frank Kafza too.. And the next location is Frank Kafza Museum.. As the clay thing sam and dan moving is a Golem.. I think Golem maybe link to Frank Kafza too..

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: north09 on November 22, 2009, 09:45:43 PM
So, it should go like this

Telephone RB - Location TBD
(Answer: Franz Kafka)

Detour - Franz Kafka Museum
(Transport Golem / Other Choice)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2009, 09:50:15 PM
I thought the telephones had to do with spying in the Cold War!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2009, 09:55:41 PM
I wonder if Brian and Ericka are trying to get wine to serve off of a dumbwaiter, perhaps in a cafe or something??
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: chill_sd on November 22, 2009, 09:56:32 PM
My guess would be that Meghan says the title to Dan.  I'm thinking Meghan is smart enough to know about Kafka and Dan isn't.  (Can anyone say, "Chekhov"?)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 22, 2009, 09:59:47 PM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka

Why Dan? ???

Peach i think is Frank Kafza too.. And the next location is Frank Kafza Museum.. As the clay thing sam and dan moving is a Golem.. I think Golem maybe link to Frank Kafza too..

Thanks to Dan for Frank Kafza for giving the link to the Golem.

And I remember Golem from playing an adventure game.. Haha.. I remember in that game, i need to create a Golem..  :funny: :funny:.. That why i remember is a Golem..  ;D

Dun think the phone task in in Frank Kafza mususem.. Look like ware house to me..
I think maybe next week task is Frank Kafza theme?

 :funny: :funny: :funny:

I think since everyone saying F, A.. in the rb. The answer maybe is Frank Kafza.. Where the clue is at Frank Kafza Museum.. Maybe is a Frank Kafza theme too..



The RB Location is tough.. But it do look  like some courtyard.. I can see nice tiles floor..




I wonder if Brian and Ericka are trying to get wine to serve off of a dumbwaiter, perhaps in a cafe or something??

Think is a speedbump maybe before the RB.. Maybe you are right.. Think is red wine.. But i thought is coke.. Haha.. :funny:

Frank Kafza is a famous writer.. If anyone read his book.. They will know him..
 :flirt:

Franz Kafza here is a famous writer in cezch.. Under his name there is a museum built for him..


From Wiki:

Franz Kafka ;3 July 1883 – 3 June 1924) was a major fiction writer of the 20th century. He was born to a middle-class German-speaking Jewish family in Prague, Bohemia (presently the Czech Republic), Austria–Hungary. His unique body of writing—much of which is incomplete and which was mainly published posthumously—is considered to be among the most influential in Western literature.

Kafka was born in one of the houses on Prague's Old Town Square, right next to the Church of St. Nicholas. A gallery with a permanent exposition on Kafka's life has been opened in this house.

His stories include The Metamorphosis (1912) and In the Penal Colony (1914), while his novels are The Trial (1925), The Castle (1926) and Amerika (1927).

 :funny: :funny:

I think Peach is rite.. Think is mix of wine, beer and other drinks..
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 22, 2009, 10:03:22 PM
I wonder if Brian and Ericka are trying to get wine to serve off of a dumbwaiter, perhaps in a cafe or something??

Btw does wine serve in those glass?? I thought wine is serve in a nice wine glass??

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2009, 10:09:39 PM
Maybe some of each??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%2011%20Prague%20night/TAR15ep11drinks.jpg)

Here is a brighter view:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%2011%20Prague%20night/TAR15ep11drinksbright.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 22, 2009, 10:15:27 PM
Pints of Ale :beer2:
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: DrRox on November 22, 2009, 10:16:30 PM
Frank Kafza is a famous writer.. If anyone read his book.. They will know him..
 :flirt:

Well I have always thought that Franz Kafza is a character and Franz Kafka it a famous writer........which to you mean Will?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 22, 2009, 10:44:44 PM
Maybe theres blood in the glass, shades of Lori and Bolo  :jam:  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 22, 2009, 11:52:06 PM
I traced this image to this location at the castle:  Panoramio (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/27364787.jpg)

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21154.0;attach=145073;image)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/27364787.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Moo on November 22, 2009, 11:58:09 PM
Maybe some of each??

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%2011%20Prague%20night/TAR15ep11drinks.jpg)

Here is a brighter view:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%2011%20Prague%20night/TAR15ep11drinksbright.jpg)

It looked like what Megan Fox spit out in Jennifer's Body.... EWW...

It doesn't look like blood as well XD

I think it's another awesome leg <3 Golems, Telephones <33
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Mandoli on November 23, 2009, 12:02:45 AM
Okay, so the Roadblock is the telephone thing: They'll probably be getting all sorts of calls from everywhere in the room, and the letters they get are going to be scrambled up. I don't know how many calls they'll get (10?), and that's what their next clue is -- the answer? Or are they already there when they do the Roadblock?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 23, 2009, 12:13:29 AM
Okay, so the Roadblock is the telephone thing: They'll probably be getting all sorts of calls from everywhere in the room, and the letters they get are going to be scrambled up. I don't know how many calls they'll get (10?), and that's what their next clue is -- the answer? Or are they already there when they do the Roadblock?
If the answer is what we deduce.. Frank Kafka, Maybe is 10..
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2009, 12:19:00 AM
From Wiki:

Franz Kafka ;3 July 1883 3 June 1924) was a major fiction writer of the 20th century. He was born to a middle-class German-speaking Jewish family in Prague, Bohemia (presently the Czech Republic), AustriaHungary. His unique body of writingmuch of which is incomplete and which was mainly published posthumouslyis considered to be among the most influential in Western literature.

Kafka was born in one of the houses on Prague's Old Town Square, right next to the Church of St. Nicholas. A gallery with a permanent exposition on Kafka's life has been opened in this house.

His stories include The Metamorphosis (1912) and In the Penal Colony (1914), while his novels are The Trial (1925), The Castle (1926) and Amerika (1927).




When you copy and paste from Wiki it is KAFKA..........when you spell it as KAFZA........what is the difference??????????
I know hwo Franz Kafka is. I read him in college. Who is Franz Kafza?
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: autowil on November 23, 2009, 12:21:00 AM
Oppps.. So is Frank Kafka..  :ascared
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:59:07 AM
What if its Dan helping Ericka or Brian to make up for the stolen cab who says the title? Like he gives them a hint. The other teams might want Ericka and Brian in the final 3 so they might help them just to ensure a stronger team is not in the final 3.
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: autowil on November 23, 2009, 01:00:18 AM
What if its Dan helping Ericka or Brian to make up for the stolen cab who says the title? Like he gives them a hint. The other teams might want Ericka and Brian in the final 3 so they might help them just to ensure a stronger team is not in the final 3.

Is that the case.. Maybe a scheme to take off Trotters!!  :snicker:
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: autowil on November 23, 2009, 01:04:05 AM
^^ Theres no doubt about it that the remaining teams do not want the Globies in the final 3. But this topic is about the title so I'll move along  :waves:

Haha.. Not only other teams.. I also want them out ever..  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2009, 01:06:32 AM
This shot was taken between 11:54 am  and 12:08 pm (assumes August 5th).

I adjusted the times after reviewing and seeing a better view.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21154.0;attach=145073;image)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2009, 01:16:04 AM
A Kafka detour? Wow, TPTB is being innovative and historically relevant in Prague.
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2009, 01:18:24 AM
Who wants to bet that they're going to be U-turned?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Hooky on November 23, 2009, 01:20:32 AM
A Kafka detour? Wow, TPTB is being innovative and historically relevant in Prague.

I'm fine with that. :funny: :yess:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 01:40:00 AM
This shot was taken between 11:19 and 11:47 am (assumes August 5th).

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21154.0;attach=145073;image)
Thank you Chateau!! :popcorn:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 23, 2009, 03:13:32 AM
Wow so team do the task in next leg at around midnite?? Wow... :ascared
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 23, 2009, 05:30:40 AM
Wow so team do the task in next leg at around midnite?? Wow... :ascared
Yeah, I've really been craving a leg played fully throughout the night. That should be great! Maybe that's why we don't have as many spoilers this leg? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Jobby on November 23, 2009, 06:17:01 AM
Wow so team do the task in next leg at around midnite?? Wow... :ascared
Yeah, I've really been craving a leg played fully throughout the night. That should be great! Maybe that's why we don't have as many spoilers this leg? :duno:

The Speedbump (???) Brian and Ericka are doing.... is going to be similar to Ken and Tina's one if it's just serving.. and come to think of it, Maria and Tiffany's one as well. :groan:

CAN TAR BE MORE CREATIVE?!?!?!??!?!?! :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 23, 2009, 06:32:42 AM
Is it possible that the serving that Bricka is doing is a part of a Detour choice?

We had no voiceover from Phil to clue us in, and I heard Ericka say "I can't do this" maybe referring to switching tasks?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: gator27 on November 23, 2009, 08:03:11 AM
Meghan & Cheyene had a confessional early in last night's episode.  The background in that confessional did not look familiar.  Will someone please post a vidcap from that confessional.  If it is a new confessional location for this crew, it might provide us info for the next PitStop.

My impression while watching that confessional is that Meghan & Cheyene are in the Final 3 ... not surprising to anyone.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: David on November 23, 2009, 10:31:44 AM
Wow so team do the task in next leg at around midnite?? Wow... :ascared
Well, what we can see in the promo that has been filmed outdoors (Sam & Dan carrying the golem, and Brian & Ericka serving the drinks) It should be in the middle of the night! Love this legs!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: makz3d on November 23, 2009, 10:57:59 AM
Sam & Dan have what appears to be wet clay all over them.  It looks like they may be trying to cut the golem open in one of the screen caps.  Maybe they have to get into the golem for their instructions.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 11:01:25 AM
Sam & Dan have what appears to be wet clay all over them.  It looks like they may be trying to cut the golem open in one of the screen caps.  Maybe they have to get into the golem for their instructions.
I had the feeling they are pushing it but I might be wrong.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 23, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Sam & Dan have what appears to be wet clay all over them.  It looks like they may be trying to cut the golem open in one of the screen caps.  Maybe they have to get into the golem for their instructions.
I had the feeling they are pushing it but I might be wrong.
I second the pushing motion.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 11:05:20 AM
The racers pushing a wet clay Golem thru the dark streets of Prague, what will the locals make of it? How do you like us now?  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 23, 2009, 11:08:51 AM
The racers pushing a wet clay Golem thru the dark streets of Prague, what will the locals make of it? How do you like us now?  :lol: :lol:

Maybe the boys will be sweating so much from pushing that huge thing, they'll end up in their skivvies again!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 23, 2009, 11:09:22 AM
The racers pushing a wet clay Golem thru the dark streets of Prague, what will the locals make of it? How do you like us now?  :lol: :lol:

I sense a Rob quote "It's tough organising Czech labour" :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 11:11:56 AM
You guys are so funny and Will I hope you get your/our wish  :flirt:  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Legend of the Golem:

Quote
There are countless legends about Golem and the most famous one goes something like this:

Rabbi Lws magical powers enabled him to combine the four elements (fire and water represented by his assistants), air (Rabbi himself) and earth (Golem made out of earthenware) to vitalize a lifeless sculpture made out of mud.

 ....Golem lived only with clay tablet inserted into his mouth (according to the movie-makers into his forehead). It had to be taken out on Saturday because of Jewish holy day Sabbeth.


More here:  http://www.prague.net/golem

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
The Amazing Race 15 - It Start With An "F", That's All I'm Saying (Czech Republic)

Air Date: 11/29/09

Clip 0:30
Has one of the final four teams committed a game changing penalty? Find out on the next episode of The Amazing Race.



   
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:12:06 PM
the disco is the speedbump
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 23, 2009, 12:15:41 PM
So, for Detour Golem vs. Wine? And could someone youtube it for us Non-US watchers? thx.

And I wonder what the game-changing penalty is... Methinks FT and BE or Sam and Dan commit it.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:20:59 PM
It would explain how the Globies are eliminated. For months I was trying to come up with a scenario that gets them eliminated, now it makes sense.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2009, 12:21:34 PM
So telephone is the roadblock.
Disco speedbump right before the detour: Wine or Golem.
I think Globetrotters commit the error.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:22:40 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0000.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0001.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0002.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0003.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0004.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0005.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0008.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 23, 2009, 12:22:58 PM
I'm still hanging on to my hope that the spoilers are wrong and the Trotters aren't eliminated...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:23:57 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0012.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0013.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0014.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0015.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0016.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0018.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:24:39 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0019.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0020.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0021.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0022.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 23, 2009, 12:25:25 PM
Anyways... the view of the horse statue is from the National Museum. In Wencelas Square (the statue).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:27:06 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0023.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0024.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0025.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0026.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0027.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0028.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0029.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:28:43 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0030.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0031.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0032.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0033.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0034.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0035.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0036.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0037.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 23, 2009, 12:29:38 PM
And yup, for the roadblock, it appears you write FRANZ in the boxes.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 12:34:04 PM
OMG!! 4 HOURS!! This is so Big Easy! He could not open the briefcase in Dubai, he sucks at puzzles!


ONE TEAM TAKES A FOUR-HOUR PENALTY WHEN UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE ROADBLOCK
, AND ANOTHER TEAM DODGES INTOXICATED  LOCALS WHILE ATTEMPTING TO COMPLETE A DETOUR, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 29
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

   "It Starts With an "F," That's All I'm Saying (Czech Republic)" One team decides to take a four-hour penalty when they're unable to complete a Roadblock, and another team dodges intoxicated locals while trying to complete their Detour, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 29 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is the host.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 23, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
So, FT and BE get the Penalty and Brian and Ericka probably avoid the intoxicated locals.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2009, 12:43:22 PM
OMG!! 4 HOURS!! This is so Big Easy! He could not open the briefcase in Dubai, he sucks at puzzles!


ONE TEAM TAKES A FOUR-HOUR PENALTY WHEN UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE ROADBLOCK
.

Oh...crap. :'(
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2009, 12:48:54 PM
Ohhhh no...Big Easy couldn't get the RB?? NOW I understand! That is such a sucky way to go out though!  :'(

Okay....

Is the glasses carrying part of the Speedbump?? Or is that part of the Disco Detour?? ??? Maybe thta's why Ericka didn't want to make it work, "avoiding intoxicated locals"

Detour: Golem or Disco?? ???

:lol3: The Boys BROKE their Golem??  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Mandoli on November 23, 2009, 12:49:51 PM
I think they're going from the Detour to the Roadblock. Meghan looks as though she's got some clay on her pants (from the end of episode preview), so I think Meghan and Cheyne do the golem as well?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 23, 2009, 12:54:41 PM
Wow, the 4 hour penalty explains the elimination this Sunday. It's going to be another great episode!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2009, 12:58:03 PM
"It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying"

See the "F"  :waves:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0018.jpg)

I'm seeing   "FRANZ"  too  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Mandoli on November 23, 2009, 01:00:10 PM
Apparently they're getting red X's stamped on that paper if the answer's not right.

And it's only five phone calls with the letters all mixed up.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2009, 01:21:59 PM
This picture was taken here.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0033.jpg)

Panoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/5753645)
(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5753645.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 23, 2009, 01:33:29 PM
 :yess:  got it!...  It's the M1 Lounge Bar & Club in Prague   :snicker:

bar link here (http://www.pragueexperience.com/places.asp?PlaceID=1349)

M1 Lounge Bar & Club
Masna 1
Old Town, Prague 1
Czech Republic

...yes, the lights are different color, but it's the same bar  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2009, 01:41:37 PM
Now THAT is pretty amazing!  :wine: :martini: :jam:

 :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Boingo is in the house  :yess: :jumpy: :jumpy:



Detour: Golem or Disco?? ???

The Clue tells us the detour peach and Brian is clearly holding a speedbump clue at the disco  :tup:
another team dodges intoxicated locals while trying to complete their Detour

How about Detours  "Deliver Wine or Deliver Slime"  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 01:43:15 PM
Good Job Boingo and Chateau  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 01:48:09 PM
I think they're going from the Detour to the Roadblock. Meghan looks as though she's got some clay on her pants (from the end of episode preview), so I think Meghan and Cheyne do the golem as well?
Dan is fairly clean though, I was thinking the RB led them to the detours and the clues are usually in order but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2009, 02:00:14 PM
It makes perfect sense that the RB would lead them to the detour.
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: apskip on November 23, 2009, 02:19:56 PM
Who wants to bet that they're going to be U-turned?

Caelestor,
That may happen but it is not a major contributor to the time gap Brian/Ericka have to overcome.  A U-turn usually costs about 30 minutes. Brian/Ericka have that much to make up in their Speedbump. However, they will start about one hour or more behind Flight Time/Big Easy. It is that time differential on finishing Ep. 10 (replicated in the pit stop release for ep. 11) that is critical and must be overcome for Brian/Ericka to overtake Flight Time/BigEasy, which we know is almost certain to happen.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: chill_sd on November 23, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Whoever quits the RB, I'm assuming isn't the person who hears the title clue spoken.

With 5 letters there are 120 different possible words.  But if you know the first letter, there are only 24 combinations of the remaining 4 letters.
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
Who wants to bet that they're going to be U-turned?

Caelestor,
That may happen but it is not a major contributor to the time gap Brian/Ericka have to overcome.  A U-turn usually costs about 30 minutes. Brian/Ericka have that much to make up in their Speedbump. However, they will start about one hour or more behind Flight Time/Big Easy. It is that time differential on finishing Ep. 10 (replicated in the pit stop release for ep. 11) that is critical and must be overcome for Brian/Ericka to overtake Flight Time/BigEasy, which we know is almost certain to happen.

Well, now we know that a team is going to lose 4 hours because of the roadblock... I wonder who...  :colealert:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 23, 2009, 03:05:44 PM
Keep in mind that unless the rule has changed from season seven, its four hours after the next team arrives at the roadblock.

So if the Trotter involved quits the roadblock (assuming the spoiler info is correct that the Trotters are the last eliminated team) before another team arrives, then that additional waiting time is in addition to the 4 hours.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2009, 03:21:32 PM
Meghan & Cheyene had a confessional early in last night's episode.  The background in that confessional did not look familiar.  Will someone please post a vidcap from that confessional.  If it is a new confessional location for this crew, it might provide us info for the next PitStop.

My impression while watching that confessional is that Meghan & Cheyene are in the Final 3 ... not surprising to anyone.

The only one I saw in the first 10-12 minutes was this one which I think is from the bog, is this the one you meant?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Hooky on November 23, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Dang it! I was hoping they wouldn't give things away this week! :groan: :groan: :groan:

It definitely explains the editing significance of the Roadblock in Leg 6. :res:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: gator27 on November 23, 2009, 04:14:40 PM
Meghan & Cheyene had a confessional early in last night's episode.  The background in that confessional did not look familiar.  Will someone please post a vidcap from that confessional.  If it is a new confessional location for this crew, it might provide us info for the next PitStop.

My impression while watching that confessional is that Meghan & Cheyene are in the Final 3 ... not surprising to anyone.

The only one I saw in the first 10-12 minutes was this one which I think is from the bog, is this the one you meant?

Thanks peach.  That is the vidcap for which I was looking.  It is easy to volleyball bog on Meghan's chest and know that it was after the last episode.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 23, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
This shot
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0026.jpg)

was taken here:
(http://grab.by/grabs/620b717492dfbcbc448faa59e34ec73f.png)
(http://grab.by/grabs/0f6edd85ccd7858400a76f2d8747365b.png)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 23, 2009, 05:18:48 PM
This shot
was taken here:
(http://grab.by/grabs/0f6edd85ccd7858400a76f2d8747365b.png)
I spent hours looking for this before I found it - I can't believe you beat me!
Long way from the M1 bar! Do they make them carry the drinks on the tram????
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: serendipity on November 23, 2009, 05:27:16 PM
Since it is quite clear that the telephone task is a Roadblock, I start to wonder how a team would give up in this task and take a 4-hour penalty.

Would it be the case similar to TAR13 2nd Moscow leg that if a team could not solve the clue correctly, they need to wait for some time, say 10 minutes, before they could have a 2nd try? If so, it only takes 24 wrong trials to make a team lose 4 hours, and this makes the decision of quitting the task reasonable.

Nonetheless, it is highly unlikely that a team could overcome this penalty in a F4 leg. I guess in last season even Tammy/Victor did not have a 4-hour lead on Jen/Kisha in the 2nd Beijing leg?

Besides, do you think we will see a U-turn this leg? I know there was an un-aired one earlier this season, but there should be at least 2 U-turns in one season right?

I hope the next leg will be as long as the one in last season, where teams raced from night till noon!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2009, 05:31:22 PM
Nice job Dan.  I was hunting too.  So here is the other place.  Not far away  :tup:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0028.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2009, 05:44:27 PM
The distance is not too bad:  0.6 miles plus what we would know about

In season 10, teams were expected to haul paintings through the streets of Paris along a distance of over 1.5 miles.   :groan:

Nobody did it though.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 23, 2009, 06:22:55 PM
Let me just put my two euro cents worth of information


1. Let's just assume that the roadblock is at the start or close to the start of the leg. In this case, assuming Brian and Ericka are 30-1 hour behind at the pit stop, they will now have an estimated 4-5 hour lead over the team that takes the penalty, giving them a lot of time (hopefully they use it)

2. Or the roadblock is after the detour. In that case, Brian and Ericka are also safe, as they can make up the 1 hour - 1 hour 30 minute time that they have left behind (or maybe even minutes like Gary and Matt) and thus are safe from elimination


Either way the team that takes the 4-hour pen is toast.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 23, 2009, 06:41:24 PM
OMG!! 4 HOURS!! This is so Big Easy! He could not open the briefcase in Dubai, he sucks at puzzles!

ONE TEAM TAKES A FOUR-HOUR PENALTY WHEN UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE ROADBLOCK
, AND ANOTHER TEAM DODGES INTOXICATED  LOCALS WHILE ATTEMPTING TO COMPLETE A DETOUR, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 29
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

   "It Starts With an "F," That's All I'm Saying (Czech Republic)" One team decides to take a four-hour penalty when they're unable to complete a Roadblock, and another team dodges intoxicated locals while trying to complete their Detour, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 29 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is the host.


Wohoo!! Their Karma Bite them so bad!!  :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: autowil on November 23, 2009, 06:42:41 PM
God Jobs guys!!

Thanks Puddin for the video..

So the wine is part of another detour since the press release mention is a detour..

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2009, 07:52:34 PM
This shot was taken between 12:08 and 12:22 pm (assumes August 5th).

In Summary:

Meghan & Cheyne  12:01 +- 7 min
Sam & Dan  12:15 +- 7 min
Nate & Herb  12:17 +- 7 min

I'm working on Brian & Ericka ... finally, some sunshine!  brb
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2009, 09:00:41 PM
Ericka comes through!  :wohoo:

This shot was taken between 1:46 and 1:59 pm (assumes August 5th).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Belle Book on November 23, 2009, 09:12:02 PM
Looks like Flight Time or Big Easy (more likely Big Easy) decides to skip the Roadblock and they're gone as a result.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2009, 09:48:04 PM
:thankyou: for all the times Chateau!! And great job on all the locations guys!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2009, 10:03:09 PM
Ericka Goddess boobage worship  :lol:  :yess:
Good job on the locations Dan and Chateau
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 23, 2009, 10:12:03 PM
Nice job Dan.  I was hunting too.  So here is the other place.  Not far away  :tup:

I actually recognized that street right away because I've gone there about 10 times in the last two years :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 24, 2009, 01:44:15 AM
Is that the Charles bridge behind the Golems? Strelecky island has a "beach" of sorts at the northern end (seen here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31822279@N06/2975169733/)), but I can't quite match up the viewpoints.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: DeafRacer on November 24, 2009, 01:54:41 AM

Nonetheless, it is highly unlikely that a team could overcome this penalty in a F4 leg. I guess in last season even Tammy/Victor did not have a 4-hour lead on Jen/Kisha in the 2nd Beijing leg?

I hope the next leg will be as long as the one in last season, where teams raced from night till noon!

To answer this question: All final four teams were released at same time to look for the gnomes. We were told to get up at like 4am - that's when the shops opened. I assumed that they wanted us to start race early in morning so that way it would look like we kept racing overnight into daylight but we didn't tho. We had like 5 hours of rest time.

But that leg WAS so long!!  We all started at 4am. Tammy & Victor checked in pit stop at 10am. My mom and I checked in at noon. Jaime & Cara and Kisha & Jen checked in at 2ish in the afternoon.

*fingers crosses* for U-Turn!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 24, 2009, 02:06:24 AM
I can't believe that the Globetrotters will bite the dust due to a 4-hour penalty.

For once, I hope all this great spoiler-work is incorrect, and that it is not them who are eliminated in this leg.

My original thought was that there was a U-Turn in this leg, and that would cost them...
Title: Re: Episode 11, Which team stated the title? It starts with an "F"
Post by: topaz on November 24, 2009, 03:02:44 AM
I think "F" is for Franz Kafka
Yes, it is and he's a Czech Jewish writer in the early 20th century and his birthplace is located in the Old Town district of Prague.  And read this info about him: http://www.grandhotelpraha.cz/en/franz-kafka-1/

And I do believe the pit stop for this episode will be in the Church of St. Nicholas, just a few meters away from his birthplace, and I know who gonna say the "F" word on this episode.  It's probably a phone operator whose giving a clue to a member of the team on a road block task, and it's not what we've thought about a censored word.  Geez, that's a close call. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 24, 2009, 08:16:13 AM
OMG!! 4 HOURS!! This is so Big Easy! He could not open the briefcase in Dubai, he sucks at puzzles!

ONE TEAM TAKES A FOUR-HOUR PENALTY WHEN UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE ROADBLOCK
, AND ANOTHER TEAM DODGES INTOXICATED  LOCALS WHILE ATTEMPTING TO COMPLETE A DETOUR, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 29
ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK

   "It Starts With an "F," That's All I'm Saying (Czech Republic)" One team decides to take a four-hour penalty when they're unable to complete a Roadblock, and another team dodges intoxicated locals while trying to complete their Detour, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 29 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is the host.


Wohoo!! Their Karma Bite them so bad!!  :hearts: :hearts:

Autowil, I know you won't agree with this but I think that if karma were at work in its usual Amazing Race way the team whose bad karma earns a fall is Sam/Dan. Since we know that doesn't happen, I guess karma took the day off.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 24, 2009, 08:38:26 AM
Remember this post from way back in August?

 http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.msg440533.html#msg440533

The time was about 7:30 am Prague time when I saw the activity on the Charles Bridge which fits with the timing of the second Prague leg.
IMHO the bridge is too iconic to pass up on a TAR visit to Prague - I think the pit stop is somewhere on the bridge or near the bridge that I couldn't see from the webcam.
Either that or the crane was used to film some of the Golum detour which was along the river from the bridge
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2009, 10:36:44 AM
Great thought WP!! I love this idea...Webcam fever! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 24, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
I want to follow a timeline approach to see where it leads to on departure time for flights Prague to the U.S. We start with the approximately 0915am (since the customs clearance should have been minimal) departure from Prague airport, which is about 6 miles west of downtown Prague.

I am going to guesstimate that it took 30 minutes for teams other than Brian/Ericka to get by taxi to Old Town Square during rush hour traffic. From there it took maybe 15 minutes to take a taxi to Troja. Completing the traverse of the wires would have been about 30 minutes for the slowest member of each team. Getting a taxi back to the Estates Theater would have been maybe 20 minutes. The ROADBLOCK could have taken maybe 60 minutes for the first team, 80 minutes for the second team and 120 minutes for the third team although we saw that Sam/Dan and Nate/Herb were very close in the time that they finished, so maybe 100 minutes for each one. Then it is 10 minutes on foot to Prague Castle and 5 minutes to find the pit stop. That would mean the pit stop arrival time of the first 3 teams is approximately:

Cheyne/Meghan 1135am
Sam/Dan 1215pm
Nate/Herb 1216pm

If we can assume a 12 hours pit stop teams with be released just before or after midnight starting Wed. Aug. 5. Depending on how long ep. 11 tasks are, they could finish by 2am and start a 36 hour extended pitstop. That would release them around 2pm the afternoon of Thursday Aug. 6. They could reach Prague Ruzyne airport before 3pm.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Jobby on November 24, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
Ericka Goddess boobage worship  :lol:  :yess:
Good job on the locations Dan and Chateau

<3 :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 24, 2009, 11:58:54 AM
I want to follow a timeline approach to see where it leads to on departure time for flights Prague to the U.S. We start with the approximately 0915am (since the customs clearance should have been minimal) departure from Prague airport, which is about 6 miles west of downtown Prague.

I am going to guesstimate that it took 30 minutes for teams other than Brian/Ericka to get by taxi to Old Town Square during rush hour traffic. From there it took maybe 15 minutes to take a taxi to Troja. Completing the traverse of the wires would have been about 30 minutes for the slowest member of each team. Getting a taxi back to the Estates Theater would have been maybe 20 minutes. The ROADBLOCK could have taken maybe 60 minutes for the first team, 80 minutes for the second team and 120 minutes for the third team although we saw that Sam/Dan and Nate/Herb were very close in the time that they finished, so maybe 100 minutes for each one. Then it is 10 minutes on foot to Prague Castle and 5 minutes to find the pit stop. That would mean the pit stop arrival time of the first 3 teams is approximately:

Cheyne/Meghan 1135am
Sam/Dan 1215pm
Nate/Herb 1216pm

If we can assume a 12 hours pit stop teams with be released just before or after midnight starting Wed. Aug. 5. Depending on how long ep. 11 tasks are, they could finish by 2am and start a 36 hour extended pitstop. That would release them around 2pm the afternoon of Thursday Aug. 6. They could reach Prague Ruzyne airport before 3pm.


I see only one flaw in that logic... the assumed 12 hour Pit Stop.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 24, 2009, 12:20:46 PM
Coutzy,

It does not matter which order pit stops are if one is 12 hours and the other 36 hours. You get 2 full days of pit stops no matter how they are ordered. The question is whether there was a non-standard pit stop. That is possible if WRP wants to give racers more time to get to Las Vegas. I believe that WRP does not want them to have more time. They are trying to force the Final 3 into their mold to travel together. There are various ways to accomplish that, but giving more pit stop time with a fixed arrival time in mind means a higher probability of identical travel plans.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: chill_sd on November 24, 2009, 01:15:56 PM
Cheyne/Meghan 1135am
Sam/Dan 1215pm
Nate/Herb 1216pm

You seem to have made some good assumptions, Skip, since your times match those calculated by Chateau d'If yesterday.  You are probably a little early on Meghan and Cheyne, though.

You also seem to have missed that the teams took a taxi from the theatre to the palace.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: gingerman28 on November 24, 2009, 02:05:11 PM
No way could a team walk from Estates Theatre to Prague Castle in 10 minutes.  Roughly it is a distance of 5 miles and I don't think even the Globetrotters could walk that distance in 10 minutes. Even by taxi it might take longer than 10 minutes considering mid-day traffic and fact that a taxi could not take the shortest route across the Charles Bridge since the bridge is for pedestrians only.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: gator27 on November 24, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Ericka comes through!  :wohoo:

This shot was taken between 1:46 and 1:59 pm (assumes August 5th).


Chateau,

I'm a bit confused by the greenish line on this picture.  Erika's head is casting a shadow on Brian's chest meaning that the sun is coming from Erika's left and slightly behind her.  Is the greenish line perpendicular to the angle of the sun?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: slayton on November 24, 2009, 04:35:26 PM
It's too bad that it looks like they only have to figure out the "Franz" part.  I wish that there were more of these Franz Kafka/Anton Chekhov types of tasks, and they should be even more difficult.  Anyone who's seen or heard of "Hans and Franz" from "Saturday Night Live" would probably end up getting it right.

If I had to pick a team that's aware of Franz Kafka enough to get the answer right on the first try, I would pick Sam & Dan.  If Sam & Dan don't know about Franz Kafka, then I don't believe that any of the racers know about him.  I would be surprised if these four teams combined were as knowledgeable about literature as a team like Mel & Mike or Tammy & Victor.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 24, 2009, 05:01:02 PM
Remember this post from way back in August?

 http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.msg440533.html#msg440533

The time was about 7:30 am Prague time when I saw the activity on the Charles Bridge which fits with the timing of the second Prague leg.
IMHO the bridge is too iconic to pass up on a TAR visit to Prague - I think the pit stop is somewhere on the bridge or near the bridge that I couldn't see from the webcam.
Either that or the crane was used to film some of the Golum detour which was along the river from the bridge
not to burst your bubble wp but there is ongoing repairing of the bridge and there is one crane NOT that the Bridge would not be an excellent choice for the pitstop  :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 24, 2009, 06:57:55 PM
personal photos thanks to GMan  :hugs: :tup:

thumbnails because they are huge!

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Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2009, 08:27:54 PM
They are beautiful!! Thanks for sharing G-man  and thianks for fixing them to share puddin!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 25, 2009, 01:03:03 AM
This one from G-man was where Brian & Ericka abandoned the bus.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/prague/th_DSC_0146.jpg)

Note that I already flipped it since it was shot through a rear-view mirror.   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 25, 2009, 01:12:51 AM
Ericka comes through!  :wohoo:

This shot was taken between 1:46 and 1:59 pm (assumes August 5th).


Chateau,

I'm a bit confused by the greenish line on this picture.  Erika's head is casting a shadow on Brian's chest meaning that the sun is coming from Erika's left and slightly behind her.  Is the greenish line perpendicular to the angle of the sun?

Yes, that's what it is trying to be!  The perp to the greenish line goes to  the sun and gives Solar altitude.  I found five five lines in the shot that tell the time.  Four point to the sun.  And one is perpendicular to the sun. It's the one I like the most.  ;)

Bear in mind that the camera was tilted by 2 degrees for the shot.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 25, 2009, 02:08:33 AM
This one from G-man was where Brian & Ericka abandoned the bus.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/prague/th_DSC_0146.jpg)

Note that I already flipped it since it was shot through a rear-view mirror.   :lol:
Thats pretty cool Chateau! Nice!


and this really does belong here many thanks to Racefan82

Somebody help!

This is my first time posting on this site and I have pics of teams in Vegas!  Wish it hadn't taken me so long to post this, but I haven't had internet access until today.  Just read some of the more recent posts and Im hoping this will shed some light into who our F3 might be.  Was in Vegas over the weekend and a dream of mine came true, got to see the Amazing Race in action! I was on a balcony and below me, two teams came running by.  Both teams looked lost like they were at the wrong place, since they ran down the street right after.  Didn't see a third team, they could have come before I got there or went to a different spot. Tried to snap the best pictures I could.  But to figure out the time issue, this was in the early afternoon, as I had just finished up with lunch at the buffet. So this would totally fit into the flight times being discussed.  So this could confirm two of the F3. I definitely saw the guys in green with pink hair and the Globetrotter team.

Have pics, but this will only allow me to upload 256k.  How do I shrink them to put on this site?

Nice work so far everyone!

eta the photos:


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/3-3.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/2-5.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 25, 2009, 08:57:18 AM
Well, since you posted these pictures. I have a quick question. In Season 5, weren't they forced to check in their baggage, leading to Chip and Kim being first in the final leg(as they got to the flight that could leave earlier)?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2009, 09:12:13 AM
Racefans pics are in Vegas right? Next episode? ???  Not Prague....


:iok
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on November 25, 2009, 10:19:51 AM
Well, since you posted these pictures. I have a quick question. In Season 5, weren't they forced to check in their baggage, leading to Chip and Kim being first in the final leg(as they got to the flight that could leave earlier)?

Since the sightings were at about the same time in the same place (Gary & Matt too) it's a good bet that Nate & Herb are doing the same thing Gary & Matt are doing:  running decoy

We don't even need the extra nail provided by the checked bag strip.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 25, 2009, 11:40:11 AM
  Just to tie up a few loose ends... weren't there some talk/sightings/speculation about some "mega" giant stadium in Prague, previously in some speculation thread.  Not sure it fits in with these night tasks.  Maybe just a false sighting.  Carry on.   ;)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 25, 2009, 12:03:44 PM
I don't recall Boingo ???

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: chill_sd on November 25, 2009, 12:34:29 PM
So the red X means wrong.  F-A-R-N-Z.  Ha ha ha ha NO!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: gator27 on November 25, 2009, 12:46:10 PM
Hmmm.  Do you suppose that a team that gets enough XXXX is forced to quit the Roadblock?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 25, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
I highly doubt that they would force a team to quit the Roadblock at any point, but especially in the penultimate leg.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 25, 2009, 01:46:35 PM
It looks to me that unless there are several rooms of telephones set up, teams have to take turns performing the roadblock; so I'm guessing get it wrong, you have to wait for your next turn.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 25, 2009, 03:17:59 PM
In honour of my American friends Thanksgiving holiday tomorrow and in celebration of one of their most bizarre holiday traditions...
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/4134560454_317de0552e_o.jpg)

Happy Turkey Day!

just slightly ot...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 25, 2009, 08:42:02 PM
I'm thinking the Golems might be parked on the west bank of the river behind the Kafka museum. There's a a little dirt patch at the riverbank, and the two street signs look the same. I can't quite match the windows in the background; streetview won't give me the right angle. Here's the viewpoint (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=50.088719,14.410431&spn=0,359.996559&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=50.088927,14.410103&panoid=DCbAhhTflK8WsCLNtkg-Rw&cbp=12,160.54,,0,13.14), turn/zoom to see what I mean.

OK, I'm reasonably sure now. The windows seem to match.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: :jerry: on November 25, 2009, 10:28:08 PM
Umm I'd like to point out when CBS said "intoxicated locals" they mean drunk locals

So Bricka has to do the speedbump and get their detour clue at the club/bar.

Something like the Montevideo Disco task in season 5.

Start leg:
Get your clue at the bar

3 teams search for clue in a random way in the bar/Brian and Ericka speedbump clue box

Detour: Deliver wine or Deliver slime LOL

Route Marker somewhere

Roadblock: Phone Challenge (Big Easy takes the penalty)

Pitstop results: M/C S/D B/E B/F [ELIMINATED]
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 25, 2009, 10:29:35 PM
I'd call that a match, the little red sign on the top right of the taller building can't be all that common.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2009, 10:36:16 PM
Excellent match, when you backlight the pic it looks good to me!! Amazing how you can do that!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 25, 2009, 11:17:14 PM
I'd call that a match, the little red sign on the top right of the taller building can't be all that common.
every street sign in downtown Prague is the same (red with white lettering). Still, it looks like a match to me.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 25, 2009, 11:30:06 PM
Nicely done Slowhatch! Here you go  :waves:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 26, 2009, 01:05:49 AM
I'd call that a match, the little red sign on the top right of the taller building can't be all that common.
every street sign in downtown Prague is the same (red with white lettering). Still, it looks like a match to me.


:innocent:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 26, 2009, 01:11:47 AM
lol Coutzy  :lol: :lol:


okay so finally youtube is working for me again  :waves:


 
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Ray! on November 26, 2009, 08:10:45 AM
Random thought!

Is there ANY chance that Leg 11 is a TBC and someone gets eliminated at the midpoint (start with an elim near the start of the episode - like the F4 of Exile Island)?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2009, 08:18:00 AM
Random thought!

Is there ANY chance that Leg 11 is a TBC and someone gets eliminated at the midpoint (start with an elim near the start of the episode - like the F4 of Exile Island)?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/misc/HAHAHANO.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 26, 2009, 10:13:01 AM
 :lol:  Just thinking about that room with the phones.... wonder if the WRP producers are clever enough to use a former Communist relic like the Czech Secret Police (StB) Headquarters... or even the Unitas Hotel/Prison next door... or even the Museum of Communism.   :ascared   Naaahhh! they're not that bright... it's probably just a empty warehouse or some such location...  :funny:

Secret Police Headquarters (http://www.allpraha.com/d/32098/Former_Secret_Police__StB__headquarters/)
Commie Prague (http://www.allpraha.com/Commie_Prague/)
Unitas Art Prison (http://www.allpraha.com/d/32233/Pension_Unitas___Art_Prison_Hostel/)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Jobby on November 26, 2009, 10:14:18 AM
Random thought!

Is there ANY chance that Leg 11 is a TBC and someone gets eliminated at the midpoint (start with an elim near the start of the episode - like the F4 of Exile Island)?


That's one of the best replies i've seen around peach. To think you even thought of that! :hearts: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Coutzy on November 26, 2009, 10:15:29 AM
Puddin, your title as champion of the spoiler lols has officially been taken over by Peach.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2009, 10:18:07 AM
That's Neobie's HAHA......I just "borrowed" it!!  :-[ :lol: :-[
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Ray! on November 26, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
That reaction was SO expected. There was a reason it was a random thought. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2009, 10:20:38 AM
:lol:  Just thinking about that room with the phones.... wonder if the WRP producers are clever enough to use a former Communist relic like the Czech Secret Police (StB) Headquarters... or even the Unitas Hotel/Prison next door... or even the Museum of Communism.   :ascared   Naaahhh! they're not that bright... it's probably just a empty warehouse or some such location...  :funny:

Secret Police Headquarters (http://www.allpraha.com/d/32098/Former_Secret_Police__StB__headquarters/)
Commie Prague (http://www.allpraha.com/Commie_Prague/)
Unitas Art Prison (http://www.allpraha.com/d/32233/Pension_Unitas___Art_Prison_Hostel/)

That would be AWESOME Boingo!! WIsh they would!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 26, 2009, 11:22:09 AM
Would this make a difference? I think I see Praha 6, but that's no help: it's the largest district (http://www.spottedbylocals.com/prague/area-maps-prague) of Prague.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 26, 2009, 12:05:58 PM
I have a question though. There are 3 Xs on the sheet, when she wrote FARNZ, but it's supposed to be FRANZ right? So, could the Xs mean how many letters ARE correct. I mean, she only got two letters wrong.

EDIT: Anyways, for the place, I see 1900 Praha 6, or 1506 Praha 8.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 26, 2009, 01:26:05 PM
I have a question though. There are 3 Xs on the sheet, when she wrote FARNZ, but it's supposed to be FRANZ right? So, could the Xs mean how many letters ARE correct. I mean, she only got two letters wrong.

EDIT: Anyways, for the place, I see 1900 Praha 6, or 1506 Praha 8.
According to Wikipedia the last line should be the postal code + Praha + district.
In Prague the postal code also matches the district - so addresses in district 6 would be 16xxx - district 5 would be 15xxx.
 
Quote
150 00 - 159 99 Prague 5
 160 00 - 169 99 Prague 6
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 26, 2009, 02:53:34 PM
:lol:  Just thinking about that room with the phones.... wonder if the WRP producers are clever enough to use a former Communist relic like the Czech Secret Police (StB) Headquarters... or even the Unitas Hotel/Prison next door... or even the Museum of Communism.   :ascared   Naaahhh! they're not that bright... it's probably just a empty warehouse or some such location...  :funny:

Secret Police Headquarters (http://www.allpraha.com/d/32098/Former_Secret_Police__StB__headquarters/)
Commie Prague (http://www.allpraha.com/Commie_Prague/)
Unitas Art Prison (http://www.allpraha.com/d/32233/Pension_Unitas___Art_Prison_Hostel/)

That would be AWESOME Boingo!! WIsh they would!!
I would discard the museum of communism because it's on a second floor. Now the old Headquarters could very well be it.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 26, 2009, 03:48:58 PM
 :lol:  I thought there was something funny about this weeks preview... besides the trotters being seen in the daylight during this legs "nighttime" tasks.... it's a recycled clip of the trotters running by the Estonian Parliament... WTF... lazy lazy BVM flunkies... here we are in the second Prague leg, and we still see old Tallinn clips.  shame shame...  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 26, 2009, 08:29:36 PM
I think it's well established that Bertram has little if no control over the CBS promo junkies.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 26, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
This is Dan's By the way
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Zack. on November 27, 2009, 01:58:17 AM
"Time filled - 11:13/11:18 PM"?

In any case it's the first thing in the leg.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 27, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
I never had a chance to check the Dallas game yesterday

TAR promo insert, most we've seen, some are old, few are new ,, the bar scene. Are those guys a soccer team or something? peach and I heard something about a soccer team/restaurant some time ago.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0116-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0117-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0119-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0120-1.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0121-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0122-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0123-1.jpg) 

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0124-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0125-1.jpg)



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0126-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0127-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0128.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0135.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0136.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0137.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0129.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0130.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0131.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0132.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0133.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0134.jpg)


Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 27, 2009, 09:52:45 PM







(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep11/rff-0127-1.jpg)


Do you have a larger version of this picture?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 27, 2009, 10:01:54 PM
^^  already posted upstream.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 27, 2009, 10:38:10 PM
hooligans!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 27, 2009, 10:53:48 PM
Are those guys a soccer team or something? peach and I heard something about a soccer team/restaurant some time ago.




That seems very possible, great idea!! :jumpy: there are at least 3 distinct shirt colors there lifting up long scarves.

Wonder if these were just recruited to be the "intoxicated locals"??  Or something more as well...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 27, 2009, 10:56:45 PM
World Cup regional tournament, perhaps?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 27, 2009, 11:03:56 PM
The blue/white I can't place, but the others look like Dukla Prague (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukla_Prague) and Slavia Prague (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavia_Prague).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 27, 2009, 11:42:00 PM
Well I hate blowing them up because they fuzz up but will try. We might get the larger version this weekend. Note the bar looks brick, "this aint no disco?" Might be where they deliver the wine?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 27, 2009, 11:44:09 PM
Speedbump?? ???
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 28, 2009, 12:34:27 AM
The basement of Zlata Hvezda (http://www.sportbar.cz/interier.php), Prague's oldest sports bar, has some similar elements, but not enough to call it.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 28, 2009, 12:48:13 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 12:52:19 AM
 :lol:  Actually I was going to go out on a limb and say it is the Kozicka Bar (Little Goat) in the Old Town.  ...looks like a better match

bar link here (http://www.pragueexperience.com/places.asp?PlaceID=396)

eta: bar pix and bar web site link here (http://www.kozicka.cz/index.php?page=foto)

Interesting that the MI Lounge and the Kozicka Bar are very close to each other (northeast of the Old Town Square), while the Zlata Hvezda is way south of those two.  None of which are near the river where Team Zebra are said to be carrying beers.   :res:  :lol:

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 01:42:01 AM
oh my gosh Boingo, that looks right. Thats IT!!  :winner :cheesehead


got lucky here


      
Kozicka in Prague      
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 01:52:49 AM
 :lol:  I am good!   ;D   but as I said above, if the M1 and Kozicka are so close together, then why are Team Zebra way west by the river carrying beers?   :(
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 28, 2009, 02:08:48 AM
Nice work!  :tup:  So...the M1 was the last delivery? In the other caps, they were walking north on Smetanovo Nabrezi.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 02:18:19 AM
Nice work!  :tup:  So...the M1 was the last delivery? In the other caps, they were walking north on Smetanovo Nabrezi.

....so...so...there's a third bar?   :groan:   *ugh*  I need a drink!   :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 28, 2009, 02:57:07 AM
Wasn't there a detour task in Lisbon (or Portugal) some seasons back where teams had to deliver boxes of wine to three different bars? IIRC a team had an accident with their vehicle during the task. I mention that because requiring the team to go to three bars along a course makes sense, and it is evil as a possible speed bump task.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 28, 2009, 06:52:37 AM
Wasn't there a detour task in Lisbon (or Portugal) some seasons back where teams had to deliver boxes of wine to three different bars? IIRC a team had an accident with their vehicle during the task. I mention that because requiring the team to go to three bars along a course makes sense, and it is evil as a possible speed bump task.
Yes, that was TAR3, and it was the law school graduates Heather & Eve with the accident. :wall:

I'm thinking the golems and beers are some sort of Detour, aka "Heavy but Short" and "Light but Long". TAR5 India had a Detour with a similar title. :wise
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 12:01:18 PM
I thought the dancing might be the Speedbump but who knows  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 28, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
I thought the dancing might be the Speedbump but who knows  :lol:

 :tup:  you may be on to something, puddin.  Assuming the M1 Lounge is the dance/disco bar... that plus the babes suggests a speedbump (not to mention the obvious Speedbump clue in his hand).   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2009, 10:02:02 PM
So CBS has finally blessed us with the full promo
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 01:41:57 AM
TAR15 is now the red headed stepchild  :lol:

Full promo, it will get clearer once the video fully uploads


 
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: mswood on November 29, 2009, 12:28:39 PM
Ok, what the hell is first the roadblock or the detour, PS don't tell Peach.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 12:30:35 PM
Ok, what the hell is first the roadblock or the detour, PS don't tell Peach.


:neener:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: michael on November 29, 2009, 12:31:36 PM
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TAR15 is now the red headed stepchild 


 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 12:41:04 PM
I think the Roadblock is first and it leads them to the Detours but my question is ........ if lets say it is the Globies who take the 4 hour non-complete the Roadblock, how do they know where to find the Detours? How do they know where to go? They have been beaten to death as "followers" by the other teams so that might come into play? unless of course the Roadblock comes last then that answers that question but how do they find the pitstop?
Do they just tell the clue giver that hey forgo the RB and to give them the clue? Has that ever happened before?
Then some were wondering if there was a U-Turn? I see no signs of it but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen?
And did we have a poll this week or did I completely miss it?  :neener:

I'm looking at Meghan and Cheyne in the taxi (above), where does a cab come in? on the way to the pitstop? they look so frigging happy, they are probably first again.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 12:42:35 PM
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TAR15 is now the red headed stepchild 


 :lol:
Next to last episode and no one cares  :lol: ! I DO though, been waiting to see how this plays out as we had no spoilers besides the Globies supposed decoy run in Vegas which I believe we all agreed on.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 29, 2009, 12:46:24 PM
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TAR15 is now the red headed stepchild 


 :lol:
Next to last episode and no one cares  :lol: ! I DO though, been waiting to see how this plays out as we had no spoilers besides the Globies supposed decoy run in Vegas which I believe we all agreed on.

Which probably gives away the outcome of 4th and Final 3! haha! I still want to see how it all turns out too!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: mswood on November 29, 2009, 01:02:33 PM
Puddin if you quit a task you get instructions for the next step.

But here is the thing we have two seasons 6 & 7 that have featured teams quit the roadblock.  And what happened is different. The penalty seems to be a consistent 4 hour (after the next team arrives or just 4 hours if you are currently last or tied for last).  The only difference was that in season 7 teams waiting on site for the time to expire, but in season 6 teams immediately took off for their next destination and the penalty was put at the Pit Stop.

I would hope that is what happened.  Otherwise they the Trotters will basically be non entities at that point (even if we know they get eliminated, the other teams wouldn't) and if they caught up it would really build tension with the three teams that do have a future.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: mswood on November 29, 2009, 01:07:58 PM
Poll, Oops.  I would lie and say I was completely and totally distracted by spoilers for 16, but that would be a huge lie.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 01:35:09 PM
 :waves: sports promo
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 01:36:49 PM
I can't see the first one very well...where are M/C and what are they doing?? Is it a carry the drinks??
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 01:41:57 PM
No its Cheyne and Meghan with clue in hand, its posted up thread as well.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: gator27 on November 29, 2009, 03:51:46 PM
I can't see the first one very well...where are M/C and what are they doing?? Is it a carry the drinks??

My impression was that they just left the starting point.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 03:58:05 PM
Thanks guys...working sucks. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: mswood on November 29, 2009, 04:01:54 PM
I can't see the first one very well...where are M/C and what are they doing?? Is it a carry the drinks??

My impression was that they just left the starting point.
My thought as well (so its probably right before the Pit Stop with my luck).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 04:11:15 PM
Well yeah it looks like the St. Nicholas Dome that is near the Castle
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 29, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
I think the Roadblock is first and it leads them to the Detours but my question is ........ if lets say it is the Globies who take the 4 hour non-complete the Roadblock, how do they know where to find the Detours? How do they know where to go? They have been beaten to death as "followers" by the other teams so that might come into play? unless of course the Roadblock comes last then that answers that question but how do they find the pit stop?
Do they just tell the clue giver that hey forgo the RB and to give them the clue? Has that ever happened before?

In ARA3, Palin, I think, quit the roadblock and the Vietnamese guy just likes gives her the clue without completing the roadblock

PS: Taken directly from Wiki

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Penalty times are cumulative. If a player is unable to complete the Roadblock, the team is assessed a four hour penalty starting from the time of the arrival of the next team at the Roadblock, after which they are given their next clue to proceed
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In the American edition, the teams who quit a Roadblock must serve a four-hour penalty assessed starting from when the next team arrives at the task site, whereas in the Asian edition, this four-hour penalty applies at the Pit Stop prior to checking in and not at the Roadblock itself.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 06:18:49 PM
thanks reds
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 29, 2009, 07:26:40 PM
I am calling it a 10 hour pit stop (thanks puddin).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 07:31:39 PM
I am calling it a 10 hour ROADBLOCK.
pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 29, 2009, 07:34:13 PM
This is a bit random, but can they switch out who does the Road Block? For some reason I thought I remembered it happening before.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 29, 2009, 07:34:54 PM
This is a bit random, but can they switch out who does the Road Block? For some reason I thought I remembered it happening before.
nope
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 29, 2009, 07:38:16 PM
The failure of Big Easy to get the letter sequence Franz was truly tragic. Dan had given him the first letter as F. If Big Easy believed him and acted on that, there are only 4!, 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 combinations of those 5 letters beginning with F. That is only 24 different combinations. That should have taken a short time period to run through, with average getting it right only 12 tries times the average time per try. I have to assume that Big Easy did not believe Dan, in which case he had 120 combinations to run through.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 29, 2009, 07:49:53 PM
I will state for the record that the strongest racer in AR15 is clearly Meghan. She kept Cheyne focused enough on the golem move to get 1st place and they have done that type of thing throughout the race.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 29, 2009, 07:50:54 PM
Ericka: She is about to get hit. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 29, 2009, 07:58:40 PM
Fingers crossed they give something away in the final :D
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 29, 2009, 08:03:49 PM
How many seasons has it been since we've actually seen a pity clue sending the eliminated team to the pit stop?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 29, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
Interesting question. Phil came out into the field for seasons 5,6, and 15. Andre/Damon got the clue de grace in season 3. That's all I remember.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 29, 2009, 08:41:08 PM
Interesting question. Phil came out into the field for seasons 5,6, and 15. Andre/Damon got the clue de grace in season 3. That's all I remember.
The Grannies in S2 at the Prison, too
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: River on November 29, 2009, 08:43:36 PM
How many seasons has it been since we've actually seen a pity clue sending the eliminated team to the pit stop?
What Slowhatch said in addition to TAR 10 Peter & Sarah and TAR 2 Shola & Doyin also getting a pity clue. Toni & Dallas got eliminated by Phil coming to them as well. And the grannies like Dan said.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 29, 2009, 08:46:23 PM
Remember this post from way back in August?

 http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.msg440533.html#msg440533

The time was about 7:30 am Prague time when I saw the activity on the Charles Bridge which fits with the timing of the second Prague leg.
IMHO the bridge is too iconic to pass up on a TAR visit to Prague - I think the pit stop is somewhere on the bridge or near the bridge that I couldn't see from the webcam.
Either that or the crane was used to film some of the Golum detour which was along the river from the bridge
not to burst your bubble wp but there is ongoing repairing of the bridge and there is one crane NOT that the Bridge would not be an excellent choice for the pitstop  :kuss:

Damn - Charles Bridge - in direct view of the webcam there - I knew that crane was there for something. :'(

I should have stayed up all night recording it...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 29, 2009, 09:40:35 PM
I was referring to the pity clue as we saw it tonight, not to situations where Phil went out to a team.

This just becomes something else we had in this season we hadn't seen before or in a long time (with the exception of the lost passport elimination).

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: mswood on November 29, 2009, 10:27:02 PM
God we have some large time separation for all three remaining teams.

With Sunrise around 5:40am.

I would suspect that Meghan & Cheyne finish near 2:30am, Sam & Dan around 3- 3:30pm  unless the task was much longer.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
I was referring to the pity clue as we saw it tonight, not to situations where Phil went out to a team.

This just becomes something else we had in this season we hadn't seen before or in a long time (with the exception of the lost passport elimination).



getting Guido'd...the Alaska clue.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2009, 10:36:45 PM
Dave and Jeff, left behind in Hawaii. They got a phone call? I can't recall.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 29, 2009, 10:37:41 PM
No, they got the mercy clue in Hawai'i.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 29, 2009, 10:38:11 PM
mswood, I am sure you meant 300am for Sam and Dan. My guess on finish times is earlier for both teams:

Cheyne/Meghan 1am
Dan/Sam 230am
Brian/Ericka 5am
 
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 29, 2009, 10:41:05 PM
My guess is Brian/Ericka didn't get in til after 6am:

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 29, 2009, 10:41:44 PM
nvm
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: mswood on November 29, 2009, 11:11:13 PM
mswood, I am sure you meant 300am for Sam and Dan. My guess on finish times is earlier for both teams:

Cheyne/Meghan 1am
Dan/Sam 230am
Brian/Ericka 5am
 
Yeah I did mean am.

But with Sunrise being 5:40am then I think its safe to say that Brian & Ericka would be lucky to get 6:00am. 

We see several clocks, and I think (but I haven't reviewed) that at 1:30 Meghan & Cheyne are still performing the Detour.  Clearly Sam & Dan are at 2:00am, but I thought I also saw one showing 2:30 but it went really quick.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 29, 2009, 11:22:52 PM
A few locations: Kryocentrum (http://www.mapy.cz/#st=s@sss=1@ssq=Imrychova%20984/27@@), Ekotechnicke (http://www.mapy.cz/#x=133031923@y=136033487@z=16@mm=ZP@sa=s@st=s@ssq=Pap%C3%ADrensk%C3%A1%206,%20Praha%206@sss=1@ssp=120640421_124356481_150459301_149899137), Spanish Synagogue (http://www.jewishmuseum.cz/en/aspanish.htm) and Old-New Synagogue (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source=hp&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=old+new+synagogue+prague&fb=1&gl=us&hq=old+new+synagogue&hnear=prague&cid=0,0,1091126536994101469&ei=X0kTS57qMojitgPi6cjPBQ&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=4&ved=0CBsQnwIwAw).
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Boingo on November 29, 2009, 11:46:59 PM
 :jam:  ...and don't forget the U Fleku Brewery (http://www.pragueexperience.com/places.asp?PlaceID=368) where they got the beers...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2009, 03:01:17 AM
I meant to check this Friday and was sidetracked by TAR16 not that it matters  :lol:

Bonnie Hunt
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Tuesday, December 1, 2009

Flight Time & Big Easy ("The Amazing Race")

Read more: http://www.bonniehunt.com/promos/tuesday_december_1_--_debi_maz.php#ixzz0YKcCNJtz
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 30, 2009, 04:33:00 AM
My guess is Brian/Ericka didn't get in til after 6am:

hint,

1. what time did FT/BE departed?
2. Find out how long would it take to reach the roadblock from the pit stop.
3. Add 6 hours (they took two and a half hours, plus the penalty)

You get the estimated time for Brian and Ericka's pit stop arrival (plus or minus)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 30, 2009, 09:13:41 AM
My guess is Brian/Ericka didn't get in til after 6am:

hint,

1. what time did FT/BE departed?
2. Find out how long would it take to reach the roadblock from the pit stop.
3. Add 6 hours (they took two and a half hours, plus the penalty)

You get the estimated time for Brian and Ericka's pit stop arrival (plus or minus)

I don't really care that much, in fact I don't even remember what it looked like when they got to the pitstop, just that it was daylight. If it was daylight, it would have to be after a certain time-when the sun rose. Right? If you think about it, you don't need to do all of the other stuff, just figure out how long it took them to get from the road block to the pitstop and then add (at least) what time the sun rose. It's really not that difficult.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: RealityFreakWill on November 30, 2009, 11:19:34 AM
I was laughing when I saw this last night.

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc289/CuteboiWill/tarice4img_assist_custom.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 30, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
I think the CBS publicity about a game-changing penalty was bunk. The fact is that Brian/Ericka were already ahead of Flight Time and Big Easy when the latter team elected to take the penalty. The penalty did not impact anything except it made it certain that Flight time and Big Easy would be eliminated instead of just highly likely. The probability is that had Big Easy had continued and solved it in say another half an hour they would still never have been able to make up their time differential behind Brian and Ericka.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Ruth on November 30, 2009, 01:58:20 PM
It was a great episode, love the tasks and all but I didn't like the fact that Flight Time and Big Easy quit. I mean, I'm happy they're not in the final three 'cos they're the team I like the least out of the remaining teams, but it just made the rest of the leg so predictable. From that point onwards, we all knew that they were gonna be eliminated. I'd have preferred if they hadn't quit but still lost. Hmmm.

Brian doing the Roadblock's a little worrying for me, that'd mean that Ericka takes the final Roadblock and she isn't known to keep her cool........ Oh well.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on November 30, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
Ruth,

My understanding of the ROADBLOCK balance requirement is that teams can vary by more than 1 in the final ROADBLOCK tally even though I cannot tell you specifically what the number is. If I am correct, this means that Brian at 6-5 can take the finale ROADBLOCK if there is one. All teams are able to have complete flexibility. Meghan and Cheyne both have 5 due to their FAST FORWARD. Sam has 5 and Dan has 6, so they too can choose either one.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2009, 03:49:21 PM
It is my understanding that no team member can do more than 6 RB's, finale or no. That is why it is so important that teams choose carefully who does what leading up to the finale.

I think Meghan and Cheyne are the only ones with flexibility, either of them can do it.

But Sam and Ericka  (to the best of my knowledge) will have to be our RBers, if there is a RB. As puddin pointed out, the season 13 finale did not have one.

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on November 30, 2009, 04:36:04 PM
Ruth,

My understanding of the ROADBLOCK balance requirement is that teams can vary by more than 1 in the final ROADBLOCK tally even though I cannot tell you specifically what the number is. If I am correct, this means that Brian at 6-5 can take the finale ROADBLOCK if there is one. All teams are able to have complete flexibility. Meghan and Cheyne both have 5 due to their FAST FORWARD. Sam has 5 and Dan has 6, so they too can choose either one.

I think the tally went up to 7 in Season 10 only because there were 13 roadblocks during that season. The limit came back to 6 in Season 11 (as stated by Eric)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 30, 2009, 06:36:57 PM
I'm having a hard time believing that the Kryocentrum was really at -180 Celsius (-292 Fahrenheit) or -160C if you believe the sign (-256 Fahrenheit). I'd expect that frostbite would be almost immediate at those temperatures. That's far colder than what they use to flash freeze food. I'd also expect it would extremely expensive to operate, probably involving liquid gases which would be dangerous/deadly if there was plumbing leaks. Additionally, just opening up the door to let them in would raise temperature dramatically as the perhaps 30 to 40 degree exterior air mixes with the -292 F air inside the chamber.

I did run one of the the Kryocentrum web pages http://www.kryocentrum.cz/index.php?s=kryoterapie-lecba-chladem#1 (http://www.kryocentrum.cz/index.php?s=kryoterapie-lecba-chladem#1) through the Google translator and it says they use temperatures of -110 C (-156 F) to -160 C - no mention of -180 C. If it is true, it wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong about something like this, but I remain skeptical.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 30, 2009, 06:56:33 PM
My guess is Brian/Ericka didn't get in til after 6am:

hint,

1. what time did FT/BE departed?
2. Find out how long would it take to reach the roadblock from the pit stop.
3. Add 6 hours (they took two and a half hours, plus the penalty)

You get the estimated time for Brian and Ericka's pit stop arrival (plus or minus)

I don't really care that much, in fact I don't even remember what it looked like when they got to the pitstop, just that it was daylight. If it was daylight, it would have to be after a certain time-when the sun rose. Right? If you think about it, you don't need to do all of the other stuff, just figure out how long it took them to get from the road block to the pitstop and then add (at least) what time the sun rose. It's really not that difficult.

Brian and Ericka finished before/after at 6:17am
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2009, 07:55:18 PM
It is my understanding that no team member can do more than 6 RB's, finale or no. That is why it is so important that teams choose carefully who does what leading up to the finale.

I think Meghan and Cheyne are the only ones with flexibility, either of them can do it.

But Sam and Ericka  (to the best of my knowledge) will have to be our RBers, if there is a RB. As puddin pointed out, the season 13 finale did not have one.



Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: AbbyNormal on November 30, 2009, 09:18:26 PM


Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.


Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...   :groan:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2009, 11:24:29 PM
Slowhatch hooked us up with this webpage a long time ago incase anyone wants to double check the RB balance.

http://homepage.mac.com/yakc/tv/tar15.html
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Jobby on December 01, 2009, 03:33:55 AM


Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.


Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...   :groan:

Okay, this is not to put down BE or what.. but i doubt he'll fare well in a memory task either. :funny:

Trust me, it sucks more to lose that million dollars in the final 3 than the feeling to lose in the final 4. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on December 01, 2009, 02:22:01 PM


Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.


Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...   :groan:

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Ruth on December 01, 2009, 03:05:35 PM
I totally did not think that it was a strategic move on BE's part to quit the Roadblock. Hey, the penalty's 4 hours! In this penultimate leg, the likelihood of another team making such a grave mistake that will cost 4 hours is really low. What's more, they were already the last team there, couldn't he have continued on? After all, Dan already told him it started with an "F", I'm sure he wouldn't take 4 hours even if he unscrambled all the letters one by one would he. And in the first place, I don't see what's so difficult about the Roadblock. Oh well, but I'm just glad it's them who're out and not anyone else. And I admire the way they took it. =)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Dnooky on December 01, 2009, 04:10:50 PM


Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.


Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...   :groan:

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?
As I said before, Karlyn was allowed to do 7 Roadblocks on Season 10 because the cap was lifted due to it having 13 roadblocks. Most probably, Lyn performed an unaired Roadblock. Eric in All-Stars confirmed the cap was set back to 6 after he stated in an episode that he had maxed out.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2009, 11:17:59 PM


Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.


Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...   :groan:

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?

Since you ask so nicely :lol:

Season 10 had 12 legs but 13 Roadblocks, BECAUSE there was the TBC in leg 9 where one leg had 2.

Teams were well aware throughout the race that the RB split needed to stay even , but with 13 RB's, someone would do 6, the other person 7.

There was an unaired RB in Mauritius, on leg 7. This was the episode that had full video spoilers, and then was not shown on air.

Lyn did this RB, which consisted of kayaking out to a large boat (I believe this may have been the Isla Mauritia??), Swim over and board that boat, where they were outfitted in an old fashioned "Diver's Bell Helmet". They then had to walk underwater across a path through the coral reef collecting a series of letters. when they had all their letters, they had to unscramble them (still underwater), in order to reveal the name of their next destination, which was the Post Office on the western shore....

They then had to swim back from the boat to their kayak, and paddle all the way back to shore.

Lyn had some trouble with this task in two areas, which lost her some time.

The first was that being very buoyant, she had difficulty getting down to the bottom and staying there. The next was getting back into the kayak. The paddle back was also quite a distance.

So of the 13 RB's she did 6, Karlyn 7.

Interestingly...Lyn and Karlyn were the ONLY team to do the full 13 RB's that season, as both Tyler and James and Rob and Kimberly  had FF's...leaving their totals at 6/6 (including the unaired RB).

Source? Lyn Turk  :thankyou: Lyn!!

And I STILL grieve for not getting to see this RB!!! :'(

But to take us back on topic... the RB rule appears to still be in complete effect.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: michael on December 01, 2009, 11:20:25 PM


Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.


Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...   :groan:

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?

Since you ask so nicely :lol:

Season 10 had 12 legs but 13 Roadblocks, BECAUSE there was the TBC in leg 9 where one leg had 2.

Teams were well aware throughout the race that the RB split needed to stay even , but with 13 RB's, someone would do 6, the other person 7.

There was an unaired RB in Mauritius, on leg 7. This was the episode that had full video spoilers, and then was not shown on air.

Lyn did this RB, which consisted of kayaking out to a large boat (I believe this may have been the Isla Mauritia??), Swim over and board that boat, where they were outfitted in an old fashioned "Diver's Bell Helmet". They then had to walk underwater across a path through the coral reef collecting a series of letters. when they had all their letters, they had to unscramble them (still underwater), in order to reveal the name of their next destination, which was the Post Office on the western shore....

They then had to swim back from the boat to their kayak, and paddle all the way back to shore.

Lyn had some trouble with this task in two areas, which lost her some time.

The first was that being very buoyant, she had difficulty getting down to the bottom and staying there. The next was getting back into the kayak. The paddle back was also quite a distance.

So of the 13 RB's she did 6, Karlyn 7.

Interestingly...Lyn and Karlyn were the ONLY team to do the full 13 RB's that season, as both Tyler and James and Rob and Kimberly  had FF's...leaving their totals at 6/6 (including the unaired RB).

Source? Lyn Turk  :thankyou: Lyn!!

And I STILL grieve for not getting to see this RB!!! :'(

But to take us back on topic... the RB rule appears to still be in complete effect.

wooohooo, go peach!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: apskip on December 02, 2009, 08:24:40 AM


Adding that at about 9:35 into the ep 11 show, you can hear BE ask FT "you want to do the last one, right...so I got this one", so I think we can safely say the 6 limit RB rule remains in place.


Boy, I'll bet they regret that decision...   :groan:

OK, Peach and Abby, how do you explain the result in AR10, where the ROADBLOCK split was "Lyn 5, Karlyn 7"?
As I said before, Karlyn was allowed to do 7 Roadblocks on Season 10 because the cap was lifted due to it having 13 roadblocks. Most probably, Lyn performed an unaired Roadblock. Eric in All-Stars confirmed the cap was set back to 6 after he stated in an episode that he had maxed out.
Dan,
I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:

1 Gold House Restaurant eat fish eyes Karlyn
2 Mongolia House flaming arrow          Lyn
3 Hanoi bicycle flower sales                 Karlyn (note - thanks to Raymond this has been corrected)
4 Hon Yun Nga rock climb                    Karlyn
5 Karthik Driving Sschool                     Lyn
6 Kuwait Tower climb                          Karlyn
7 Grand Baie                                      not aired so doesn't count
8 Stamp Vendors                                Lyn (thanks to Raymond this has been corrected)
9 Tytyrin Limestone Mine                     Karlyn
10 or 9b Oster Tank School                 Lyn
11 or 10 Atlas Studio Charioteer          Karlyn
12 or 11 Camel Meat in Casablanca     Lyn                                        
13 0r 12 Parachute over Normandy      Karlyn

There are either 13 or 12 episodes, depending on how you count the TBC that starts in leg 9.  There is one unaired ROADBLOCK. The count is unequivocal Lyn 5 Karlyn 7. WRP listed this as 12 episodes, not 13 and there are clearly 12 legs which contain ROADBLOCKS. How would an unaired ROADBLOCK impact ROADBLOCK balancing requirements imposed by WRP? None of us knows. Until we do, the fact is that a 12 episode show did not have a cap at 6 ROADBLOCKs.

By the way, thanks for the data to the AR10 leg racing reports issued by mswood in 2006. They were clear and it was relatively easy to find the ROADBLOCK information. I made one interpretation error and one transcription error in placing the information above, but Raymond corrected them. Those corrections had no impact on my conclusions.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an “F”, That’s All I’m Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2009, 09:27:14 AM

There are either 13 or 12 episodes, depending on how you count the TBC that starts in leg 9.  There is one unaired ROADBLOCK. The count is unequivocal Lyn 5 Karlyn 7. WRP listed this as 12 episodes, not 13 and there are clearly 12 legs which contain ROADBLOCKS. How would an unaired ROADBLOCK impact ROADBLOCK balancing requirements imposed by WRP? None of us knows. Until we do, the fact is that a 12 episode show did not have a cap at 6 ROADBLOCKs.

apskip, you are of course welcome to your opinion. However, in this case we DO know the answer.

Again, 12 episodes...13 Roadblocks.

Teams knew the entire race that they must maintain an even split. Once the TBC was revealed, that count then increased from 6/6. Of course the total had to increase from 12, since there were now 13 RB's, and teams thought there might be yet another.

Why would unaired or not matter? During the race, teams certainly wouldn't know it might not be aired, nor would production. Of course the unaired RB counts in the balance...no one knew then it wouldn't air. It was certainly run.

And Lyn absolutely knows the answer to this, and I discussed this with her last night for well over an hour. The FACT is that teams were VERY much aware of the RB rules at the time. The RB limit was indisputably in place, whether that limit turned out to be 6 or 7 doesn't matter. 

Karlyn actually took the skydiving RB (which Lyn VERY much wanted to do), because they were still anticipating some sort of puzzle/memory/race history challenge at the finale, and Lyn had kept a eecord and studied all of the flags/tasks/etc along the way, and was the one best prepared for that kind of task.



Sorry guys, I know this might seem off-topic, but it is important to be clear that since season 5, the "Bowling Moms' rule" has stood, and teams know at the outset that they are expected to maintain an even split. An "even" split of 13 would of course be 6/7.

Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Chateau d If on December 02, 2009, 10:47:36 AM
Hey Peach, you may be the best to answer this.  And now is the best time to answer it since you have just had a talk with a racer-to-the-end (Lyn).

The question is does the Roadblock count have to be even to the extent possible at every point along the race?  For example this would be a case of even all the time:

Roadblock racer A   racer B
1                     1          0
2                     1          1
3                     1          2
4                     2          2
5                     2          3
6                     3          3
7                     3          4
8                     4          4
9                     5          4
10                   5          5
11                   6          5
12                   6          6
13                   7          6

And this would be a case of  of not even all the time

Roadblock racer A   racer B
1                     1          0
2                     2          0
3                     3          0
4                     4          0
5                     5          0
6                     6          0
7                     7          0
8                     7          1
9                     7          2
10                   7          3
11                   7          4
12                   7          5
13                   7          6


But both ways end up with an even split to the extent possible.

I'm just curious if the even count rule has to be maintained or just attained.   :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Zack. on December 02, 2009, 11:19:21 AM
I'm not peach, but I can say that the split just had to be attained, mainly because we see people forced to do Roadblocks (Amber, Danielle and Hayden all had to do the last two Roadblocks, Yolanda had to do the last 3). I suspect Maria/Tiffany would've been crusing along this path also; at their elimination Tiffany was up 5-2 (and of course, they would still have the haybales to contend with).

On topic, I think the check in times are about:

Meghan/Cheyne 200 am
Sam/Dan 320 am (I'd say the golem task added time to them)
Brian/Ericka 600 am

I think the start of the leg to the end of Kafka hell took an hour and a half (unless you're Herb/Nate  :groan:). Golems took another two hours (unless you're Sam/Dan and argue for an hour  :res:). Glass carrying probably took around the same time as bickering + golem handling. Add another half hour for travel, and another penalty for Brian/Ericka writing the letters down, and here we are.

Of course, watch them get an 18 hour pit stop or something.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 02, 2009, 11:30:28 AM
Pretty sure it is up to the racers to see that it is attained at the end.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: florida on December 02, 2009, 12:12:11 PM
I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:

1 Gold House Restaurant eat fish eyes Karlyn
2 Mongolia House flaming arrow          Lyn
3 Hanoi bicycle flower sales                 Lyn
4 Hon Yun Nga rock climb                    Karlyn
5 Karthik Driving Sschool                     Lyn
6 Kuwait Tower climb                          Karlyn
7 Grand Baie                                      not aired so doesn't count
8 Stamp Vendors                                Karlyn
9 Tytyrin Limestone Mine                     Karlyn
10 or 9b Oster Tank School                 Lyn
11 or 10 Atlas Studio Charioteer          Karlyn
12 or 11 Camel Meat in Casablanca     Lyn                                         
13 0r 12 Parachute over Normandy      Karlyn


Lyn did the stamp vendors Roadblock in Madagascar, where Mary helped her out and Lyn cried at the Pit Stop because of Mary's generosity (since Mary/David were eliminated). =)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 02, 2009, 12:15:00 PM
Dan,
I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:
I don't how many times this has to be explained to you, ap, but it's clear that you don't want to accept the explanation.

Why don't you let me come to your house and hit you over the head with a Ball-peen hammer? Maybe you can better understand.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Ray! on December 02, 2009, 12:39:44 PM
I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:

1 Gold House Restaurant eat fish eyes Karlyn
2 Mongolia House flaming arrow          Lyn
3 Hanoi bicycle flower sales                 Lyn
4 Hon Yun Nga rock climb                    Karlyn
5 Karthik Driving Sschool                     Lyn
6 Kuwait Tower climb                          Karlyn
7 Grand Baie                                      not aired so doesn't count
8 Stamp Vendors                                Karlyn
9 Tytyrin Limestone Mine                     Karlyn
10 or 9b Oster Tank School                 Lyn
11 or 10 Atlas Studio Charioteer          Karlyn
12 or 11 Camel Meat in Casablanca     Lyn                                         
13 0r 12 Parachute over Normandy      Karlyn


Lyn did the stamp vendors Roadblock in Madagascar, where Mary helped her out and Lyn cried at the Pit Stop because of Mary's generosity (since Mary/David were eliminated). =)

And Karlyn did the Hanoi flowers Roadblock.

Now back to the episode: Was the clue box at the Spanish Synagogue anywhere near the statue of Franz Kafka?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: 2old4tech on December 04, 2009, 08:30:22 AM
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? :groan:

and I thought it was the "Lazy A$$ Kim Rule" :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Hooky on December 04, 2009, 02:55:09 PM
Dan,
I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:
I don't how many times this has to be explained to you, ap, but it's clear that you don't want to accept the explanation.

Why don't you let me come to your house and hit you over the head with a Ball-peen hammer? Maybe you can better understand.

Oh c'mon AsiaFan, be nice! It seems we have a very low tolerance here for anyone who doesn't understand something, which is unfortunate. I find that comment offensive to me, and I'm sure it was to apskip. I don't think that is called for.

I don't think this was mentioned, but the Roadblock cap was not lifted away entirely, but just raised to 7 instead of 6.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: michael on December 04, 2009, 03:03:02 PM
Dan,
I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:
I don't how many times this has to be explained to you, ap, but it's clear that you don't want to accept the explanation.

Why don't you let me come to your house and hit you over the head with a Ball-peen hammer? Maybe you can better understand.

Oh c'mon AsiaFan, be nice! It seems we have a very low tolerance here for anyone who doesn't understand something, which is unfortunate. I find that comment offensive to me, and I'm sure it was to apskip. I don't think that is called for.

I don't think this was mentioned, but the Roadblock cap was not lifted away entirely, but just raised to 7 instead of 6.

It's not low  tolerance hooky, it's the fact that apskip can never admit to being wrong, even when he obviously is.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: Hooky on December 04, 2009, 03:19:35 PM
Dan,
I think the cap of 6 was not lifted because it does not exist. Here are the ROADBLOCKs and who took them in AR10:
I don't how many times this has to be explained to you, ap, but it's clear that you don't want to accept the explanation.

Why don't you let me come to your house and hit you over the head with a Ball-peen hammer? Maybe you can better understand.

Oh c'mon AsiaFan, be nice! It seems we have a very low tolerance here for anyone who doesn't understand something, which is unfortunate. I find that comment offensive to me, and I'm sure it was to apskip. I don't think that is called for.

I don't think this was mentioned, but the Roadblock cap was not lifted away entirely, but just raised to 7 instead of 6.

It's not low  tolerance hooky, it's the fact that apskip can never admit to being wrong, even when he obviously is.

Yeah, I get that, but I don't think that's cause for personal attacks.

Anyway (since I'm the king of off-topic-ness), lets get back on topic here.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP11: "It Starts With an F, Thats All Im Saying" (Czech Republic)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 05, 2009, 11:20:16 PM
Normally I would not snap like that, but ap has attacked me in the past. Plus, I have little tolerance for his lack of tact. Ok, carry on!