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Title: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on October 31, 2009, 09:41:40 PM
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Tallinn, Estonia 8/3

CBS Press:
Sunday, Nov. 15   THE AMAZING RACE—
(8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)Teams travel to Estonia and   decipher a message in an ancient brotherhood lair and then slog through the bogs to play a wild muddy game of volleyball.  Phil Keoghan hosts.
 


Tallinn, Estonia by primefun  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18840.msg436828.html#msg436828)
*Hi guys, im a long time reader of this forum, now finally had a chance to post as i have something worth posting... mate of mine is right now on a ferry with the TAR teams, the ferry goes from Sweden to Estonia, they are supposed to arrive in Tallinn at 10 a.m. tomorrow morning... will surely go there to have a look  only info i got was that he personally saw like 3-4 teams... any last minute suggestions for tomorrow morning?
**

The ferry is for sure Tallink which goes between Stockholm and Tallinn, it departs stockholm at 5:45 p.m. and arrives in tallinn at 10
a.m. the following morning.

(Edited the ferry time from 6 p.m. to 5:45 p.m.)
The first location is PIKK St 26

which is the home of the Knights of the Blackheads
Here is the House of the Blackheads website:
http://www.mustpeademaja.ee/www/
 
Here is something about it:
http://www.mustpeademaja.ee/jutud/entekkelugu.html
 
Teams were instructed to look for this green door:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/TAR15TallinnKnightsDoor-1.jpg)


The teams  (some of them??) headed off to a cluebox next to the House of Parliament...




(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_rff-0059.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/rff-0059.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_rff-0061.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/rff-0061.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_rff-0062.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/rff-0062.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_rff-0063.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/rff-0063.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_rff-0058.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/rff-0058.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_rff-0060.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/rff-0060.jpg) pictures by primefun

Videos by primefun
 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPX2XErKQi4&feature=player_embedded)
 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exIWW8m_yDA&feature=player_embedded)
 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7oahGGZnHs&feature=player_embedded)



I'm working on screencaps from primefuns wonderful videos ... :jam:  

link  (http://picasaweb.google.com/puddin.pies/Prime?authkey=Gv1sRgCJmfj-r4hPvHrAE#)


Ok bad news guys, we were circling around the town now for 2 hours asking people if they had seen people running around with backpacks and cameras and no luck, all the witnesses only saw them in the morning, so i think they went off from tallinn or are not in center, we still have our "spy" waiting in the place which we suspect as the pitstop mat but no news so far so im afraid this might be it... thanks for everyone and i enjoyed seeing amazing race being produced in front of me.

http://www.360cities.net/image/tall-hermann-tower

Panorama of "Tall Hermann's Tower"

Here is a panoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/11121296) shot of the location where the clue box was

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18840.0;attach=125422;image)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/11121296.jpg)


(http://i35.[banned image hosting site].com/apchi.jpg)





from another blog

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Amazing race
We are in Estonia and just saw teams from the amazing race getting taped

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18840.0;attach=125485;image)

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18840.0;attach=125486;image)
The only thing near the spot they're staring at is the door lock (here (http://www.7is7.com/otto/estonia/tallinn_blackheadsdoor.html)).

besides, i dont see no operation hours sign anywhere. Maybe they were given a key and they were trying to open the door? Or they had to get a key in some detour? or was it part of a detour where they first had to get the key and then enter the building to finish the detour?  :(
Blog find by uycocoa  (http://logan-baker.blogspot.com/2009/08/amazing.html)
SPEAKING OF AMAZING...
I was in Tallinn today with the interns and the GC&SU team that served at Brett's camp, and while we were there we wandered into the square in Old Towne.  I heard one of the guys say, "They're filming something over there...wait, isn't that the guy from 'The Amazing Race?'"

My head whipped around to where they were pointing, and I yelled out "Phil!!!"
Yes, it was in fact Phil Keoghan, host of "The Amazing Race," filming a segment for what I guess was the Estonian leg of my favorite reality show EVER.  I almost peed myself.  I'm not even ashamed to admit it.  It was incredible.

The craziest part about it is that my mom and I had just had a full conversation about the show on Wednesday when we were talking on Skype.  We've been talking about applying for the show for awhile now, but we have to wait until I'm 21 so I'll be eligible to race.  We explained our full strategy to Chris the other night...when we're one the show, we will be the crazy Christian women that praise Jesus and throw our competitors under the bus.  We will annihilate the competition.

Really, I just took the moment as a sign from God that I am definitely supposed to be on the show.  Then my beloved Phil and I will be reunited, and I won't have to worry about the production people coming up to me and asking me not to yell at him and to avoid standing in the back of the frame and staring.
 


postimees news article (http://www.postimees.ee/?id=148842) translated by and thanks to primetime

"Postimees managed today to chase up the competitors of the amazing race, we ran through 2 check points with them. We received information that the world-known show Amazing Race has reached Tallinn and the first destination is the "house of the black heads". So we had to go and check it out.

Before noon the front of the house was pretty quiet, except for a lady hanging around the place and who wouldnt give out a single comment. After a while 2 girls showed up who were running up the Pikk street looking for the "house of the black heads" and asking the local construction workers about the destination.

After knocking on the door they were let in where they supposedly had to solve some tasks to receive information about their next destination. Soon the ladies were running towards an information point in the Harju street while asking for help from the locals. The fact that the next destination was the Hermann tower we managed to find out only from the information point as the questions asked from the cast and and cameramen were left unanswered.

While on their way there the girls were discussing among themselves and assuming they would be the fastest team but upon reaching the clue box their joy diminished as they pulled out the last clue.

After that we managed to lose the team who ran towards the downtown. Asking from the local salesmen revealed 3 or 4 teams had been around an hour ago looking for the same clue box in Hermanni tower.

How many teams are still running in the competition we didnt find out but based on a clue received from our reader we can assume there were at least 5 teams competing. Also we found out the teams arrived at 10 a.m. from sweden on board the ship Victoria


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_216051t41h6577.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/216051t41h6577.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_216044t41hf8a1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/216044t41hf8a1.jpg) Tiffany & Maria (decoys?) << pics by postimees


Blog (http://whitecruise.blogspot.com/2009/08/estonia-where.html)
We walked along the back of Old Town up to Toompea Castle where there were great views of the city and the Gulf of Finland. The Castle dates back to the 13th Century and is fronted by the town’s Parliament house, which is PINK! We wandered into a small park next to the Castle where Shawn spotted a red and yellow post normally used in the reality show “Amazing Race.” Just a few minutes later in barrels a panting camera man running in front of two of the teams! They frantically looked around the park for the clue (which was the post) and as I caught eyes with the girl from the yellow team I pointed toward the other side of the park where the clue was waiting. Ha! Imagine that? Of all places in the world you happen to see the Amazing Race being filmed in TALLINN!  
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/th_AmazingRaceatTalinnPark.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/AmazingRaceatTalinnPark.jpg)
Credits: Plaidmoon

The Trotter crew in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--KnZTL6L0) and Primefun's video don't seem very energetic, but that might be misleading; anyway, the Trotters start sprinting once they reach the top of the street.

More info incoming as we speak:

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No, we did not follow Herb and Nat and heard nothing about them, so we have no idea where they went.

In my opinion, I think Herb and Nat were moving slowly due to the massive backpack they were carrying... but I could be wrong. I think the park they came out of could be a stop or something. Sorry I am not familiar with TAR terminology.  I followed a few previous, earlier seasons and enjoyed them but I am not a big fan like you are.

For your information, the weather that morning was cloudy but it improved a lot in the afternoon. So if you see any other pics or videos that day of a sunny Tallinn with blue skies then it is an afternoon shot.

And embedding the video by permission!!




Is there anything else y'all want to know? ???


The closest spot I could find is Lossi Plats (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/81937069), next to the Nevsky church and below the castle. (map here (http://www.tallinn-map.info/sp_images/Tallinn_Toompea.swf); the trouble is, they would seem to be heading in the other direction, towards St. Marys)
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Is there anything else y'all want to know?

Can he get the exact time from his video file time stamp?
He says:
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I did not set the time on my video so there is no time stamp. But I checked our photos and the last photo we took before we saw them was 10:56am. I think we saw them a minute or two later.

Title: Re: TAR15 EP8:
Post by: puddin on October 31, 2009, 09:41:48 PM
saved, lots more to bring over from the spoiler thread
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: topaz on November 01, 2009, 03:32:38 AM
I'd found the SWAMP in Estonia!  It's located in Korvemaa Swamp, and I think that could be a pit stop? http://www.worldisround.com/articles/7729/index.html (http://www.worldisround.com/articles/7729/index.html)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 01, 2009, 07:48:22 AM
Unfortunately, if you open up the wiki map (http://wikimapia.org/#lat=59.44&lon=24.74&z=11&l=0&m=b&search=bog) and select bog as a search term, you get 6 bogs all within 10 miles of Old Town. And as Boingo pointed out about sand dunes, one bog looks pretty much like any other.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Boingo on November 01, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
 :lol:  Who knew Tallinn peat bogs could be such a tourist attraction.   :funny: :res:

Tallinn bog tourism (http://www.tourism.tallinn.ee/bmenu/convention/incentive_ideas/nature)

eta: According to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahemaa_National_Park) article, the Lahemaa National Park "is one of the main tourism drawcards in Estonia"  Just happens to be the site of the Viru Bog (but it's about 50 miles outside of Tallinn).  meh....  :res:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2009, 11:02:21 PM
could someone decipher this? It's a comment left on one of Primefuns videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--KnZTL6L0).

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nägin neid kollaseid tüüpe täna päenu mntl (karnevali juures) otsisid mingit maja vms. teisi tiime polnud 

I get ... :lol:
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I saw these yellow type of päenu mntl today (at the carnival), looking for any house or other. the other was tiime

Found a Pärnu, I take it the poster either witnessed Ericka and Brian OR a cluebox  :lol: ? I Dunno?

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2485283
http://karneval.rreede.ee/index.php?lang=eng
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: inomu on November 07, 2009, 05:15:05 AM
could someone decipher this? It's a comment left on one of Primefuns videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--KnZTL6L0).

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nägin neid kollaseid tüüpe täna päenu mntl (karnevali juures) otsisid mingit maja vms. teisi tiime polnud  

I get ... :lol:
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I saw these yellow type of päenu mntl today (at the carnival), looking for any house or other. the other was tiime

Found a Pärnu, I take it the poster either witnessed Ericka and Brian OR a cluebox  :lol: ? I Dunno?

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2485283
http://karneval.rreede.ee/index.php?lang=eng


The proper translation is this:

"I saw those yellow guys at Päenu street today (near the Carnival). They were looking for a house. There were no other teams."

Karnevali could mean a carnival or a place called Karnevali.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 07, 2009, 08:56:42 AM
Thank you SO much inomu!!   :tup:

Okay slowhatch!! Where is Päenu street please??
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: apskip on November 07, 2009, 04:26:12 PM
Peach:
I have been poiking around a map of Tallinn and trying to find address on Paenu St. I actually found one on Google for Sestela AS on Paenu Mnt. Street.  I haven't located where Paenu St. is. However, I have come up with an alternative. Sestela AS is listed on MSN with the same number on Parnu Maantee St., which is one of the major roads going south out of the center of Tallinn. See map below and recognize that the best viewing of this will be on the 6th notch on the downward scale (adjacent to CITY marking):

Tallinn Map (http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Tallinn&country=EE)

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 07, 2009, 05:35:14 PM
Thank you SO much inomu!!   :tup:

Okay slowhatch!! Where is Päenu street please??
If its Pärnu mnt and not Päenu, its also in my links above as well as the Karnevali peach!!.
Thanks inomu !!!

Karneval Tallinn - Pärnu mnt. 28  (http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS306US306&q=Karneval%20Tallinna%20-%20P%C3%A4rnu%20mnt.%2028&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl)
Tel/fax: 6 44 1810
karneval@rreede.ee

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 07, 2009, 06:35:41 PM
I was looking at that last night; the only thing I could find for 28 Parnu was Cafe VS (http://www.cafevs.ee/index.php?lang=1&lev1=297#content).  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 08, 2009, 08:37:57 AM
Ok the person in the comment is referring to a Carnival Shop in Pärnu Mnt (short for "maantee"), it is a rather long street starting in the center of tallinn and going all the way to the edge of the city. From what i understand from this comment the shop itself had nothing to do with any of the tasks, he/she was just refferring to which part of Pärnu Mnt they had seen ericka and brian.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 10:31:35 AM
Welcome back primefun :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Jobby on November 08, 2009, 11:04:37 AM
The amount of spoilers we have this leg is amazing. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 08, 2009, 11:12:32 AM
Welcome back primefun :jumpy: :jumpy:

thanks :) so so waiting for the estonian episode and also the retake of the hayball roadblock in sweden, was laughin so hard when in the preview sam (or was it the other brother) said "you know one season this person did the same roadblock for 8 hours" and the other guy went "why on earth would you tell me that right now"  :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 11:22:36 AM
YAY!!! So glad you are back joining us for the fun!! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

:bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 08, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
Thanks for the great videos, primefun! :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 08:33:45 PM
Matt/Roadblock searchs for a candelabra

Matt is at a loss for words .. choose a candelabra
To monk looking dude : are you a candelabra  :lol:
Matt: I have no idea  what a candelabra is


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Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 08:40:37 PM
Sam and Dan clash with the Globetrotters ..

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Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 08:42:44 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0098.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0099.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0100.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0101.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 08, 2009, 08:45:34 PM
So candle thing is RB..

Mud/ something else detour..

And so the mud one is so near to PS..

Wonder what other detour.. Since Trotters look dry
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: enneiteml on November 08, 2009, 09:08:16 PM
I don't know if I can post this here but oh well.

There is something I don't understand:

Sam and Dan are doing the Mud Detour while Meghan and Cheyne (most likely) are there too. Once they have finished the task, they run to the pitstop in a race against the Globetrotters. However, don't we know taht it is Flight Time and Big Easy that are out?

The question is: What are Meghan and Cheyne doing still in the Mud Task while the team who will be last is in front of them?

We clearly see that Sam and Dan are in front of them.

Correct me if I'm wrong!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 09:17:58 PM
I don't know if I can post this here but oh well.

There is something I don't understand:

Sam and Dan are doing the Mud Detour while Meghan and Cheyne (most likely) are there too. Once they have finished the task, they run to the pitstop in a race against the Globetrotters. However, don't we know taht it is Flight Time and Big Easy that are out?

The question is: What are Meghan and Cheyne doing still in the Mud Task while the team who will be last is in front of them?

We clearly see that Sam and Dan are in front of them.

Correct me if I'm wrong!

They may very well be running to the pitstop but its not clear if the Globetrotters or Pinky and The Brains are out next, you guess?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: enneiteml on November 08, 2009, 09:20:05 PM
I thought Pinky and the Brain were seen in Prague.

Are you thinking decoys?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
Who says they race to the Pitstop? ???  Coould just be to cars or another part of the challenge, or whatever, they may have a ways to go.

We know that either Matt/Gary OR the Trotters go, but it is not a 100% sure which one. There is some vague report of a pink haired guy being seen at the Prague Castle, which IS supposed to be the Pitstop there.

Why is everyone else in their undies and the Trotters get shorts and T-shirts??
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 09:26:48 PM
 I see theres a wooden path through Nigula Nature Reserve, Estonia (http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/wetland/baltic/baltic.htm).

A nature study path has been laid at the nature reserve, including a 6.8-kilometer-long boarded walk.

ETA: not the same *sigh*
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 09:27:50 PM
Looking for the church and this may help::

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Quote from: Slowhatch on September 08, 2009, 08:59:37 PM
The closest spot I could find is Lossi Plats, next to the Nevsky church and below the castle. (map here; the trouble is, they would seem to be heading in the other direction, towards St. Marys)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 08, 2009, 09:33:21 PM
Who says they race to the Pitstop? ???  Coould just be to cars or another part of the challenge, or whatever, they may have a ways to go.

We know that either Matt/Gary OR the Trotters go, but it is not a 100% sure which one. There is some vague report of a pink haired guy being seen at the Prague Castle, which IS supposed to be the Pitstop there.

Why is everyone else in their undies and the Trotters get shorts and T-shirts??

That what i thinking... amd trotters are so clean..
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 08, 2009, 09:35:52 PM
I don't know if I can post this here but oh well.

There is something I don't understand:

Sam and Dan are doing the Mud Detour while Meghan and Cheyne (most likely) are there too. Once they have finished the task, they run to the pitstop in a race against the Globetrotters. However, don't we know taht it is Flight Time and Big Easy that are out?

The question is: What are Meghan and Cheyne doing still in the Mud Task while the team who will be last is in front of them?

We clearly see that Sam and Dan are in front of them.

Correct me if I'm wrong!

And Meghan seem laughing??  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 09:36:38 PM
The Toompea Dome church is also known as St Mary's  ;D
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 09:43:04 PM
Some shot's of St MAry's inside:

And there is something called The Fersen's sepulchral chapel which sounds promising, :lol:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/TAR15ep9StMarys.jpg)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/TAR15ep9StMarysinTaillin.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: north09 on November 08, 2009, 09:46:18 PM
how about St. Nicholas' Church?

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 08, 2009, 09:53:23 PM
If Sam and Dan are ahead, The Trotters are running behind them. Meghan and Cheyne are in the mud.

Could this be another shirtless team?

(http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh440/AdamsBoston/rff-0101.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 08, 2009, 10:02:04 PM
THE DOMINICAN St. CATHERINE`S MONASTERY  ?

(http://www.kloostri.ee/media/pildid/kontsert1.jpg)

The Lute guy looks like our guy? 

http://www.kloostri.ee/?1,35,0,2 (http://www.kloostri.ee/?1,35,0,2)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 10:04:26 PM
Oh NICE!! :jumpy:

Wonder if he is a roaming Lute player, or only with that church?? :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
THE DOMINICAN St. CATHERINE`S MONASTERY  ?

(http://www.kloostri.ee/media/pildid/kontsert1.jpg)

The Lute guy looks like our guy? 

http://www.kloostri.ee/?1,35,0,2 (http://www.kloostri.ee/?1,35,0,2)
you GOT it!  :yess:  :jam: and I agree thats our man!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 10:13:04 PM
:lol:  Who knew Tallinn peat bogs could be such a tourist attraction.   :funny: :res:

Tallinn bog tourism (http://www.tourism.tallinn.ee/bmenu/convention/incentive_ideas/nature)

eta: According to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahemaa_National_Park) article, the Lahemaa National Park "is one of the main tourism drawcards in Estonia"  Just happens to be the site of the Viru Bog (but it's about 50 miles outside of Tallinn).  meh....  :res:
that might be it Boingo!

A number of nature study paths and cultural history paths have been designed to acquaint the general public with the beautiful and variegated landscapes of Lahemaa.

and what else is there? how about Sagadi Manor

or Palmse Manor House
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 08, 2009, 10:27:03 PM
If Sam and Dan are ahead, The Trotters are running behind them. Meghan and Cheyne are in the mud.

Could this be another shirtless team?

(http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh440/AdamsBoston/rff-0101.jpg)

Look like Cheyne to me.. If not maybe Brian?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 08, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
THE DOMINICAN St. CATHERINE`S MONASTERY  ?

(http://www.kloostri.ee/media/pildid/kontsert1.jpg)

The Lute guy looks like our guy? 

http://www.kloostri.ee/?1,35,0,2 (http://www.kloostri.ee/?1,35,0,2)
you GOT it!  :yess:  :jam: and I agree thats our man!

Haha his name is candle thing?? LOL  :funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 11:06:37 PM
What Dan and Sam wear and in this confessional from EP8 Sam says "the globetrotters are definitely our rivals at this point ..they are the other all male team, they're very athletic they do pose a huge threat to us"


eta:

   
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 08, 2009, 11:17:45 PM
Any chance the guy is just a mandolin-for-hire and the building is the Blackhead house (source (http://www.mustpeademaja.ee/www/?pid=5&nid=14&sid=66&lang=1))?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2009, 11:20:15 PM
Nice match Slowhatch! And it makes more sense!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2009, 11:23:56 PM
Perfect match!! Oh thanks goodness :lol:, I can come out of the crypts now!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 08, 2009, 11:53:31 PM
Damn. Hope Gary and Matt can stay but looks like a no!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: :jerry: on November 08, 2009, 11:59:53 PM
Just to point it out:

But could the G-Token and Harlems racing to a U-Turn? We havn't had one yet right?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Caelestor on November 09, 2009, 12:19:35 AM
Ooh, a U-turn? I would've expected one in Prague, but I guess that works too.

Poor Matt and Gary. Their lowkey attitude really impresses me; that's how you should experience the Race. At least I still have the GTs!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 12:21:45 AM
jerry there was on unaired U-Turn in HCMC

after show preview when ready .....
 
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 01:16:16 AM
back to the swamp  :groan: , lets try Endla Bog

http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/amber/estonia/jeremy/bog.htm
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: topaz on November 09, 2009, 04:57:41 AM
I think this [Estonia] leg will be either another NEL or a TBC leg, then the 5 remaining team will be flying to their next destination and that'll be Prague.  Who knows? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2009, 05:03:40 AM
VERY unlikely to be two NEL's back to back.

I believe:

This leg DOES have a speedbump, and MIGHT have a U-Turn as Season 12 did.

There is one more NEL, most likely in Prague.

I do not believe we have any TBC's this time. :angel

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Ruth on November 09, 2009, 05:45:38 AM
Ouch, that fall looks painful. Sam and Dan and the Globetrotters are gonna have an intense rivalry from this leg. And looking at how Matt's struggling at the Roadblock, coupled with their Speed Bump, this leg looks really bleak for them. =(
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Jinknew on November 09, 2009, 06:46:30 AM
If Sam and Dan are ahead, The Trotters are running behind them. Meghan and Cheyne are in the mud.

Could this be another shirtless team?

(http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh440/AdamsBoston/rff-0101.jpg)

But that red/gray backpack belongs to one of Sam and Dan's cameramen. Why is he just standing there?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 09, 2009, 09:18:26 AM
Probably a detour. Clean vs. Dirty?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 11:13:21 AM
WOW CBS is on the BALL! give  me a few minutes and I'll post some screencaps .....


The Amazing Race 15 - We're Not Meant For the Swamp (Estonia)

The teams must decipher a message in an ancient brotherhood lair on the next episode of The Amazing Race.


 






Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 09, 2009, 11:21:41 AM
WOW CBS is on the BALL! give  me a few minutes and I'll post some screencaps .....


The Amazing Race 15 - We're Not Meant For the Swamp (Estonia)

The teams must decipher a message in an ancient brotherhood lair on the next episode of The Amazing Race.


 








I can has youtube? (I hate geography, and all restrictions related to it.)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 11:27:21 AM
sounds like the trotters beat the race to the pitstop

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0132.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0133.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0134.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0135.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0136.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0137.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0138.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0139.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0140.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0141.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0142.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0143.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 11:29:35 AM
a scene right from primefuns video  :yess:  :jam:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0144.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0145.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0147.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0148.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0149.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0150.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0152.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0153.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0154.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0155.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0156.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0157.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 11:30:55 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0158.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0159.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0160.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0161.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0162.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0163.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0164.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0165.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 11:32:38 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0166.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0167.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0168.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0169.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0170.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0171.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0172.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0173.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0174.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0175.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0176.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 11:36:23 AM


I can has youtube? (I hate geography, and all restrictions related to it.)
It won't let me copy it but I might have another way but the quality will be sucky, I'll try later.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 09, 2009, 11:40:33 AM


I can has youtube? (I hate geography, and all restrictions related to it.)
It won't let me copy it but I might have another way but the quality will be sucky, I'll try later.

Ok thank you.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2009, 12:01:09 PM
What is that in Sam's hand?? The yellow funny clue?? Could it be a U-Turn??  ^^

I can't see the video from work so scuse it if there s something I am missing...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 09, 2009, 12:06:35 PM
Regarding Matt and Gary... now that I remember upon arriving in Pikk street the first team I encountered was Matt and Gary and this is the first footage i took upon arrival http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exIWW8m_yDA AND those guys started running in a complete opposite direction to where the other teams ran afterwards... i believe that while i was trying to chase gary and matt the other teams were inside the blackheads house... i ran behind gary and matt for like a minute but then thought that may be they were the first ones there and other teams are yet to arrive thats why i returned to house of the blackheads, upon arriving there i saw Brian and Ericka and Meghan and Cheyne http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7oahGGZnHs (may be you can hear my heavy breathing in the background as i had just run back from chasing gary and matt)... after that i left house of the blackheads chasing those 2 teams across old town up to toompea (the cluebox in the park) where globetrotters were also spotted in a video shot by someone else (you have it in the first post of this thread)...

sooo my assumption is that - 3 teams out of 5 are confirmed to have been spotted in toompea (2 of them by me) then why gary and matt ran in different direction, might have been just bad directions but i dont believe that as after those 10 seconds of hesitation visible in my video they ran off like olympic sprinters seeming very confident in where they were heading - my bets are they were running to a speedbump?

could someone with keener eyes have a look at the video of gary and matt and see what clues they are holding? or even what they are saying?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 12:12:21 PM
It looks like Dan and Sam have a detour clue as do the Globetrotters , probably on the way to the Mud
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0148.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: gator27 on November 09, 2009, 12:13:54 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0098.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0099.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0100.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0101.jpg)

Thank you CBS.  Now we know that Sam & Dan are not playing volleyball with Cheyene & Meghan.  That explains why C&M are not running down the boardwalk with Sam & Dan plus the Trotters.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 12:17:40 PM


could someone with keener eyes have a look at the video of gary and matt and see what clues they are holding? or even what they are saying?
Gary asking if they have "seen" something and I hear Matt joke "do you have a cell phone?"
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2009, 12:26:34 PM
primefun, Gary and Matt have to do a speedbump that no other team has to do sometime in this episode. So it is totally possible that they ARE lookinng for a task in a different place from all the other racers...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 09, 2009, 12:28:52 PM
The shot with Sam/Dan holding the Detour clue seems to be a lot earlier in the day than when we see them at the mud volleyball fwiw.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 09, 2009, 12:33:26 PM
The shot with Sam/Dan holding the Detour clue seems to be a lot earlier in the day than when we see them at the mud volleyball fwiw.

deffo as lahemaa is min. an hour drive away (up to 2 hours depends which part of it), and there's so many swamps there that I wouldnt dare to bet on any of em.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 12:37:56 PM
The shot with Sam/Dan holding the Detour clue seems to be a lot earlier in the day than when we see them at the mud volleyball fwiw.


We know the Roadblock comes first thanks to primefun :)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
THE RACERS PUSH THEMSELVES WHILE KNEE-DEEP IN ESTONIAN BOGS, AND TWO TEAMS COLLIDE ON THEIR RACE TO THE PIT STOP,
ON "THE AMAZING RACE," SUNDAY, NOV. 15

   "We're Not Meant for the Swamp (Estonia)" — The racers end up knee-deep in Estonian bogs, and two teams are neck and neck in their race to the pit stop, on THE AMAZING RACE, Sunday, Nov. 15 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.  Phil Keoghan is the host.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Boingo on November 09, 2009, 02:07:05 PM
 :ascared  interesting, they appear to be grouped in a mini-bus of some kind.  maybe this is how they get to the bog.   :lol:  Wonder if we can match the bog tour bus?  :funny:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0155.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 09, 2009, 02:12:47 PM
For good measure, CBS finally put this on YouTube. I'll even put this in GiantVision for you all! :lol:

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Boingo on November 09, 2009, 02:34:52 PM
 :lol:  not having much luck yet matching the Estonian volleyball players pictures at this EVF site (http://www.evf.ee/).   :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 09, 2009, 02:41:51 PM
this is the first time i see that there is a thing called swamp volleyball :D we do have the swamps and we do have the volleyball but not combined  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Boingo on November 09, 2009, 03:21:10 PM
this is the first time i see that there is a thing called swamp volleyball :D we do have the swamps and we do have the volleyball but not combined  :funny:

:lol: blame it on the Finns... they claim to have started a lot of these silly sports... they must have a lot of extra time on their hands waiting out the long dark winters..  :funny:

never a dull moment link (http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/htimes/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2499:never-a-dull-moment-in-the-finnish-summer-&catid=20:lifestyle-and-entertainment&Itemid=164)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 03:37:31 PM
What are the odds were going to match that swamp?  :groan:
And I think they say they are catching a taxi Boingo and they share it per video  :duno:


Soomaa National Park is about 100 miles south of Tallinn and is known for its swamps and bogs (Soomaa means "land of bogs" in Estonian). Surprisingly, swimming is popular and is said to rejuvenate the skin.

Lahemaa National Park is about 50km east of Tallinn and is a place to find some nice forests, seaside and
 swamps and bogs. One of the most suggested place to go there is Viru raba (Viru bog), that has 5km foottrack and watching tower. You can also start and finish in same location if You go to tower and back or take a round trip back to start around the bog. There are good maps and information tables at the track.


Kaberneeme village is about 40km east of Tallinn on the coast. The village has 2km long beach area with pine tree forests edging right up to the shore.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: apskip on November 09, 2009, 05:45:14 PM
Swamp volleyball got its start not far away in Finland, part of which is only about 50 miles from the northern part of Estonia:

from 18 until 20 July the town of Hyrynsalmi hosted the Swamp Football World Championships.

It is said that this sport also originated from Finland, where it was used as a training method for athletes and soldiers. As the soft ground made it harder to play, it was seen as a physically more demanding way to play football.

The first Finnish Championships were held in 1998, and the event grew to world championship status in 2000. These days there are an estimated 260 swamp football teams around the world.

Only a week from the Swamp Football World Championships, the town of Haukivuori held the Swamp Volleyball World Championships.

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2009, 11:03:32 PM
I found it-------  :jumpy: :jumpy: Kehtna, Raplamaa, Estonia (http://john.doe.ee/2009/10/18/hiking-october-11-09/), its an hour drive give or take south (http://www.wikimapia.org/8763000/et/Kehtna) of Tallinn.

thanks John Doe  :funny:
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I was photographing a hiking event near Kehtna, Raplamaa, Estonia. The host of the event will be quite famous soon – he treated the finalists of the all-known TV-show “Amazing Race” at August 03, ‘09. That episode will be available at the end of November ‘09

The most interesting sights of Rapla County  (http://www.aviastar.org/travel/estonia/raplamaa.php) :
1. 8km long Loosalu – Paluküla Hiking Trail, with a plank road, starts from the South of the Vana-Kaiu Manor and passes through big Loosalu Bog Lake to the Bulge of Paluküla - Reevimäe, situated among the bogs. Paluküla Hiiemägi (106m above sea level) is the highest point of Western Estonia.


more here with a GE link

http://travel.reisijutud.com/GPS/kakerdaja.shtml
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 09, 2009, 11:15:30 PM
Is he referring to Phil or the greeter?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2009, 11:58:52 PM
I found it-------  :jumpy: :jumpy: Kehtna, Raplamaa, Estonia (http://john.doe.ee/2009/10/18/hiking-october-11-09/), its an hour drive give or take south (http://www.wikimapia.org/8763000/et/Kehtna) of Tallinn.

thanks John Doe  :funny:
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I was photographing a hiking event near Kehtna, Raplamaa, Estonia. The host of the event will be quite famous soon – he treated the finalists of the all-known TV-show “Amazing Race” at August 03, ‘09. That episode will be available at the end of November ‘09

The most interesting sights of Rapla County  (http://www.aviastar.org/travel/estonia/raplamaa.php) :
1. 8km long Loosalu – Paluküla Hiking Trail, with a plank road, starts from the South of the Vana-Kaiu Manor and passes through big Loosalu Bog Lake to the Bulge of Paluküla - Reevimäe, situated among the bogs. Paluküla Hiiemägi (106m above sea level) is the highest point of Western Estonia.


more here with a GE link

http://travel.reisijutud.com/GPS/kakerdaja.shtml

Wow puddin...I didn't think it would be possible to tell one bog from another!! GREAT FIND!!! :hearts:

I think he means the host of the hiking event maybe, slowhatch...not our Phil.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2009, 12:04:55 AM
Is he referring to Phil or the greeter?
I dunno but you just know peach will ask  :lol:  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2009, 12:42:59 AM
yep.  :-[ :-[ :-[

That's my job :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2009, 01:13:47 AM
peach, my favorite stalker  :lol:  :yess:

So when Dan and Sam appear to be done , as well  the Globetrotters, with the task their are still other teams or team being filmed fwiw
Unless of course theres some time penalty involved with the task, like if you don't get it right the first time you have to wait your turn again, just covering all bases not to assume everything is black and white.

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2009, 01:19:13 AM
It would appear Cheyne arrives first
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 10, 2009, 11:32:53 AM
Great eye! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2009, 12:59:35 PM
Is he referring to Phil or the greeter?
I dunno but you just know peach will ask  :lol:  :neener:

From John Doe: :jumpy:

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But, as an explanation it was not a mud volleyball - it was swamp volleyball. Swamp is - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp

And as for the host - i meant the guy who owns the place. He's only a local celebrity in a 10 mile radius :D
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2009, 01:08:17 PM
What a great guy! I really didn't think he would answer, thanks peach and tell John Thank You!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2009, 09:34:54 PM
John is awesome!! Hope he'll come join in the fun!  MORE:

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After completing a task in Tallinn, they had a clue that said only "Tarsi talu, Raplamaa" and three teams acted together and stopped a van and asked the driver for this place. And believe it or not - the driver knew and took all 3 teams there. They were expected around 2-3 pm, but they arrived about 11:30. When they arrived, they all (3 teams) ran off to the wrong direction and made an enormous circle before arriving to the right spot. And the volleyball event itself was supposed to be hilarious :D


He sent us these:
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And some more pictures of the place (taken on october 11, 2009):

They were running towards this place (in the first video on that wooden trail) - there is a sightseeing "tower" there:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=58.938045,24.972886&num=1&t=h&sll=58.937743,24.973619&sspn=0.008171,0.023518&ie=UTF8&ll=58.937743,24.973619&spn=0.008171,0.023518&z=16



View Larger Map

The volleyball field is here (+/- 10 meters):
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=58.937459,24.96823&num=1&t=h&sll=58.93585,24.966345&sspn=0.008171,0.023518&ie=UTF8&ll=58.937212,24.970357&spn=0.008171,0.023518&z=16




View Larger Map

The teams arrived there: --peach: Pitstop?? or where the taxi dropped them is unclear to me...
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=58.935355,24.96117&num=1&t=h&sll=58.936924,24.971902&sspn=0.008171,0.023518&ie=UTF8&ll=58.93585,24.966345&spn=0.008171,0.023518&z=16



View Larger Map


Volleyball field

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/TAR15ep9volleyballfieldbyJohnDoe.jpg)

path to watchtower (taken aside from the volleyball field)                                                                      path to volleyball field that continues to watchtower       
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/TAR15ep9pathtothewatchtower.jpg)  (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/TAR15ep9pathvolleyballfieldtowatcht.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 10, 2009, 09:59:19 PM
Thanks, Peach! (and John Doe)  :jam:  :jumpy: So it's Keava bog, then? And this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaankeinaste/3951509670/) must be the watchtower.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2009, 10:02:05 PM
Your wonderful John! Thank you for sharing your beautiful pictures with us as well as the maps  :wine:
So its still possible that Cheyne and Meghan arrived first? And Brian and Ericka are sharing the van?! Who would have known? :D
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2009, 10:07:56 PM
I'm expecting we'll have a replay of Luke and Jen's smackdown this episode at the pitstop between the boys :lol: "He shoved me FIRST!" and then we'll get the slow-mo film of who shoved who and who tackled who first.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 10, 2009, 10:09:00 PM
I'm expecting we'll have a replay of Luke and Jen's smackdown this episode at the pitstop between the boys :lol: "He shoved me FIRST!" and then we'll get the slow-mo film of who shoved who and who tackled who first.
I wonder who calls "bitch" first
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2009, 10:12:01 PM
 :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 11, 2009, 12:34:17 AM
Puddin is the official champion of RFF spoiler lols.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Hooky on November 11, 2009, 12:57:06 AM
What is that in Sam's hand?? The yellow funny clue?? Could it be a U-Turn??  ^^

I can't see the video from work so scuse it if there s something I am missing...

This may have already been mentioned, but it was a Detour clue. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 11, 2009, 07:16:19 AM
Do we know the third team in the van??

If it isn't M/C...maybe they get to the field first while the other three make that wrong loop?? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2009, 07:51:06 AM
I assume Brian and Ericka share the van IF this is at the bog ....which I'm assuming it is
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 11, 2009, 08:22:43 AM
I think so too!!

More from John: :hearts:

Apparently this site is owned by the greeter:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=58.935355,24.96117&num=1&t=h&sll=58.936924,24.971902&sspn=0.008171,0.023518&ie=UTF8&ll=58.93585,24.966345&spn=0.008171,0.023518&z=16

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And he is also the one who made that hiking trail to the watchtower (about 1 mile long) and owns the land until the volleyball field. Basically it's an area that you can rent for different events ....

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...they had 3 meals a day and I know that the support crew of the race stayed there. Because they had their own cooks and everything in the crew (even though site offers catering), I suppose the racers stayed there for the night as well. And taking that and the things I saw in the video (--peach- I sent the preview video)- I'm pretty sure that the watchtower is the pitstop


I have asked for clarification on the exact place names...

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2009, 09:35:18 AM
John viewed the video and wrote:

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After completing a task in Tallinn, they had a clue that said only "Tarsi talu, Raplamaa" and three teams acted together and stopped a van and asked the driver for this place. And believe it or not - the driver knew and took all 3 teams there. They were expected around 2-3 pm, but they arrived about 11:30. When they arrived, they all (3 teams) ran off to the wrong direction and made an enormous circle before arriving to the right spot. And the volleyball event itself was supposed to be hilarious

So I took at as the 3 teams mentioned. I guess all thats left for tasks is to find is the speedbump :D
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 11, 2009, 10:13:21 AM
Parking puzzle: In Primefun's first video, we hear Meghan telling the cab driver "...26, and we'll run the rest of the way." Filling in the blanks (guessing), I get Get us as close as you can to Pikk 26, and we'll run the rest of the way. The driver must have let them off at the bottom of Olevimagi street (short trip; they could have walked from the port through the Fat Margaret gate and straight down Pikk); in the next video we can see them running up the hill on Olevimagi (seen here (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/12972487.jpg) where it joins with Pikk) just a few doors down from the Blackheads. OK, fair enough; according to this parking map (http://www.yhisteenused.ee/upload/uus_ala_suur.jpg) large portions of Old Town are pedestrian zones and the cars we see must be local permit tags. But in Primefun's other video we see Montana outside the Blackhead door (you can see a sign--Baltic Tours--which is right across the street at Pikk 31) next to a cab asking for a cellphone. ??? Some cabs are allowed through but others aren't? And why would you need a cellphone? The invisible-ink parchment they got almost certainly told them to proceed on foot to Hermann tower.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 11, 2009, 07:42:36 PM
The Tarsi farm (http://www.hot.ee/tarsi/) website (click Pildialbum for gallery), which would make Illar Oleski (seen here (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpaber.maaleht.ee%2F%3Fpage%3D%26grupp%3Dartikkel%26artikkel%3D1783&sl=et&tl=en&history_state0=et|en|Illar%2520Olesk%2520ja%2520pesamuna%2520Mert%2520tulevad%2520majavalvur%2520Cleopatra%2520saatel%2520Keava%2520rabast.) with Cleopatra) the local celebrity.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 11, 2009, 08:16:16 PM
Slowhatch!! :wtg:  :jumpy: You are on a ROLL this week!!  :hearts:

You found the farm!!! Don't they look nice??!! I like them!!

Here's a little map from your link!!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/TAR15ep9TARSIfarm.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 11, 2009, 08:18:01 PM
So trotters also do the Mud Volley Ball??

Haha they really do care of cleaniness since they change something clean.. Unlike the brothers..  :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 11, 2009, 08:26:24 PM
Just a qns, is the Mud Volleyball the Detour? Any one know what the other detour??

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Caelestor on November 11, 2009, 10:24:25 PM
Just a qns, is the Mud Volleyball the Detour? Any one know what the other detour??


Search in the bog for your next clue?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2009, 08:14:01 PM
heres a few new screencaps
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 12, 2009, 08:49:36 PM
Oh dear...Meghan is having a rough week!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2009, 10:56:33 PM
When ready


   
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 13, 2009, 12:00:22 AM
Since we know that Gary & Matt and Flight Time & Big Easy are the next two teams to be eliminated, is there any chance that Gary & Matt somehow found a way to get ahead and Flight Time & Big Easy are in a footrace with Sam & Dan for last place?

Just wondering...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2009, 12:30:39 AM
Since we know that Gary & Matt and Flight Time & Big Easy are the next two teams to be eliminated, is there any chance that Gary & Matt somehow found a way to get ahead and Flight Time & Big Easy are in a footrace with Sam & Dan for last place?

Just wondering...
I don't think so racer, based on Dan and Sam's confessional and then we see what appears to another team or teams being filmed when the race to the pitstop occurs... sadly not looking good for Gary and Matt. I wish we knew the other detour option  (:;) , probably a chance thing.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 13, 2009, 01:16:37 AM
Since we know that Gary & Matt and Flight Time & Big Easy are the next two teams to be eliminated, is there any chance that Gary & Matt somehow found a way to get ahead and Flight Time & Big Easy are in a footrace with Sam & Dan for last place?

Just wondering...
I don't think so racer, based on Dan and Sam's confessional and then we see what appears to another team or teams being filmed when the race to the pitstop occurs... sadly not looking good for Gary and Matt. I wish we knew the other detour option  (:;) , probably a chance thing.


I think from Caelestor  i think Caelestor is correct as the other detour involve in the Bog.. so is nearby..

As Brian and Erika is shown running in the bog, but there are not in the volley ball place.. Unless they are done for the volley ball already and is first or doing other detour option
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 13, 2009, 01:20:56 AM
I meant this photo..

Brian was seen infront of Trotters and Sam And Dan..

So one possibilty is Brian and Ericka do the other detour

or they are first and done the volley ball already..
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Lucybell on November 13, 2009, 01:57:08 PM
In a video showing the teams arrive in Estonia, we see M/C, S/D, GT's & B/E coming out of the terminal and running for a taxi.  G/M were not seen.  Towards the end of the video, there is a car racing away but I did not see pink anywhere.  I am guessing it might have been additional cameramen trying to beat the teams to their next destination?   :duno:

Being that G/M were last to arrive at the PS last week, what if they missed the first ferry?  The eyewitness, er, friend of the eyewitness, said they only saw 3-4 teams on the ferry, right?  Was there another ferry not far behind the first one that G/M may have been on?   ;)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2009, 02:44:06 PM
In a video showing the teams arrive in Estonia, we see M/C, S/D, GT's & B/E coming out of the terminal and running for a taxi.  G/M were not seen.  Towards the end of the video, there is a car racing away but I did not see pink anywhere.  I am guessing it might have been additional cameramen trying to beat the teams to their next destination?   :duno:

Being that G/M were last to arrive at the PS last week, what if they missed the first ferry?  The eyewitness, er, friend of the eyewitness, said they only saw 3-4 teams on the ferry, right?  Was there another ferry not far behind the first one that G/M may have been on?   ;)

From page on thanks to primefuns friend on the ferry with the teams
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/rff-0061.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: littlewop on November 13, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
Has any team every been penalized for tripping or otherwise impeding the progress of another team in previous seasons?

IF, (big IF there)   the PTB decide that either a trotter or a brother purposely tripped the other team, could we be looking at a penalty of some kind?

Thanks, just curious if that may be a possibility this week.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 13, 2009, 04:44:35 PM
Has any team every been penalized for tripping or otherwise impeding the progress of another team in previous seasons?
Mark & Michael were penalised for tampering with the Thai rickshaw pumps, but I don't think anyone has ever been penalised for physically impeding the progress of another team.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Jobby on November 13, 2009, 07:29:36 PM
Has any team every been penalized for tripping or otherwise impeding the progress of another team in previous seasons?
Mark & Michael were penalised for tampering with the Thai rickshaw pumps, but I don't think anyone has ever been penalised for physically impeding the progress of another team.

Probably would have been something that BVM would love to put in the previews and official press release.

"One team gets a penalty for the first time ever on The Amazing Race for physically impeding the progress of another team..."

Actually, anything MIGHT happen.

For all we know, Gary and Matt might be attempting the other Detour which is actually the better and faster choice.. and since Brian and Ericka were not shown at the Swamp Volleyball, which means that they could have gone for the other Detour... and Meghan and Cheyne completed theirs already... That would probably put Sam and Dan and FT/BE in last place and be in a fight to avoid elimination? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: apskip on November 13, 2009, 08:19:55 PM
In a video showing the teams arrive in Estonia, we see M/C, S/D, GT's & B/E coming out of the terminal and running for a taxi.  G/M were not seen.  Towards the end of the video, there is a car racing away but I did not see pink anywhere.  I am guessing it might have been additional cameramen trying to beat the teams to their next destination?   :duno:

Being that G/M were last to arrive at the PS last week, what if they missed the first ferry?  The eyewitness, er, friend of the eyewitness, said they only saw 3-4 teams on the ferry, right?  Was there another ferry not far behind the first one that G/M may have been on?   ;)

Luceybell, the ferry schedules have been covered many weeks ago, probably before you joined RFF. There were 2 daily ferry options, one to Tallinn and the other to Helsinki, switching to a ferry to Tallinn and arriving 6 hours later. The next ferry arriving Tallinn is the next day, or 18 hours after the best-fit ferry arriving from Helsinki and 24 hours after the original ferry nonstop to Tallinn.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
Has any team every been penalized for tripping or otherwise impeding the progress of another team in previous seasons?
Mark & Michael were penalised for tampering with the Thai rickshaw pumps, but I don't think anyone has ever been penalised for physically impeding the progress of another team.

Probably would have been something that BVM would love to put in the previews and official press release.

"One team gets a penalty for the first time ever on The Amazing Race for physically impeding the progress of another team..."

Actually, anything MIGHT happen.

For all we know, Gary and Matt might be attempting the other Detour which is actually the better and faster choice.. and since Brian and Ericka were not shown at the Swamp Volleyball, which means that they could have gone for the other Detour... and Meghan and Cheyne completed theirs already... That would probably put Sam and Dan and FT/BE in last place and be in a fight to avoid elimination? :duno:

I think they would have hyped it up more if the race was for first place or last place ..

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two teams are neck and neck in their race to the pit stop,
TWO TEAMS COLLIDE ON THEIR RACE TO THE PIT STOP

and it might be there are teams or a team being filmed in the background , already mentioned above
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 13, 2009, 09:40:38 PM
Well i look at it this way.

Would this ever work?
Erika+Mud. 

I would think no. She would want to do the other task.


Is it possible that the "other team" we see in the back ground are the Estonian Volleyball players. Maybe?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
Of course they are Estonian volleyball players  :lol:   .. watch the video on page 1  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9rTCmznVCQ) I think, you could see what looks like camera crews filming behind Sam as he exits the mudpit.


heres the latest commercial
 
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2009, 10:05:39 PM
The  question I keep looking at is

We see Cheyne clearly arriving at the mud before any other teams, it seems.

If B/E, FT/BE. and S/D all arrive together, would M/C have had time to already finish the task? Are there any screenshots of M/C in the mud with other teams??

There seems to be two people running in the background in this shot...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR15/ep9/rff-0086.jpg)

Could that be another team already done with the task? M/C?? I don't see a camera...


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/TAR15ep9whoisthis.jpg)

Could D/S and FT/BE be racing for second place?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Ray! on November 13, 2009, 10:39:48 PM
Has any team every been penalized for tripping or otherwise impeding the progress of another team in previous seasons?

Illegally, aside from Mark/Mike, as puddin said, no. Legally, that would be the Yield/U-Turn. :funny:

And speaking of U-Turns, I really think there's one this leg with Sam & Dan U-Turning Herb & Nate. They use it, but Gary & Matt are so behind FT/BE still beat 'em? :P

ETA: Meaning I think it's ferry --> RB --> Speed Bump --> Detour --> U-Turn --> Random Task/Pit Stop. Very odd putting a U-Turn right before the Pit Stop, but hey, maybe they'll try it. And I think Meghan & Cheyne are behind this leg, but I can never say for sure with these two. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2009, 11:08:52 PM
She doesn't look like no stinkin racer to me peach, its for sure not Meghan or Ericka  :lol:  I don't think its Brian either and Fo sure not the Globetrotters  :lol:

heres another person with a camera shooting past Sam
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2009, 11:21:02 PM
I think there are two people there. that's why I was thinking it could be a team, but could certainly be random Estonian swamp volleyballers instead.

Still wonder where M/C fit into this...

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2009, 11:25:27 PM
Meghan and Cheyne could finish first for all we know? Meghan has proved shes as strong as the men. Glad I'm not playing for game points  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: zetapsi75 on November 14, 2009, 01:51:16 AM
Zeta Psi here, long team reader, first time poster. What I caught and I dont think was mentioned is that the 'Trotters probably finished before the Brothers, cuz if you notice, They took the time to put their clothes back on, whereas the brothers once they finished started darting towards the the next leg, and that made the trotters chase after them.  My guess, which was stated before, is that Meghan and Cheyne finish first. And Brian and Ericka do the non-physical challenge, along with Matt and his dad. But I have to imagine that speed bump hurts the father son enough to push them out. But man if they put the U-Turn in this leg, then I have no idea what's going to happen.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 14, 2009, 02:23:32 AM
Zeta Psi here, long team reader, first time poster. What I caught and I dont think was mentioned is that the 'Trotters probably finished before the Brothers, cuz if you notice, They took the time to put their clothes back on, whereas the brothers once they finished started darting towards the the next leg, and that made the trotters chase after them.  My guess, which was stated before, is that Meghan and Cheyne finish first. And Brian and Ericka do the non-physical challenge, along with Matt and his dad. But I have to imagine that speed bump hurts the father son enough to push them out. But man if they put the U-Turn in this leg, then I have no idea what's going to happen.

Makes sense... welcome to RFF
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: David on November 14, 2009, 06:35:44 AM
"One team gets a penalty for the first time ever on The Amazing Race for physically impeding the progress of another team..."
Could this make FT & BE have a penalty and Gary & Matt pass them in the PitStop while they are still waiting? Wasn't it supposed that Gary & Matt were seen in Viena (still racing, not decoys) ?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: gator27 on November 14, 2009, 07:01:13 AM
She doesn't look like no stinkin racer to me peach, its for sure not Meghan or Ericka  :lol:  I don't think its Brian either and Fo sure not the Globetrotters  :lol:

heres another person with a camera shooting past Sam

When playing volleyball you need linesmen, someone who judges if the ball is in or out.

My $0.02.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2009, 07:08:08 AM
There are two people in that shot...heading past the mudpit.

I do agree that the other detour has to be very nearby, so always possible another (non-mud) team could come by as well??

I have no idea if it is a team, or production, or random Estonian volleyballers.

But if the PitStop IS the Watchtower, they may be heading that way...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Cocoa on November 14, 2009, 07:42:42 AM
Estonia!  :hearts:

Speedbump!  :hearts:

Volleybelles and Volleyboys!  :hearts:

Sam & Dam vs. Flight Time & Big Easy  :'(

I have a good sense Im gonna like this leg!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 14, 2009, 08:16:44 AM
Meghan and Cheyne could finish first for all we know? Meghan has proved shes as strong as the men. Glad I'm not playing for game points  :neener:

I thought i saw Meghan and Cheyne in it when Sam and Dan left?? Hmmmz Haha  :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 14, 2009, 08:22:24 AM
Zeta Psi here, long team reader, first time poster. What I caught and I dont think was mentioned is that the 'Trotters probably finished before the Brothers, cuz if you notice, They took the time to put their clothes back on, whereas the brothers once they finished started darting towards the the next leg, and that made the trotters chase after them.  My guess, which was stated before, is that Meghan and Cheyne finish first. And Brian and Ericka do the non-physical challenge, along with Matt and his dad. But I have to imagine that speed bump hurts the father son enough to push them out. But man if they put the U-Turn in this leg, then I have no idea what's going to happen.

Hope some one use U Turn on Trotters.. And Trotter Bye Bye..  :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 14, 2009, 08:30:13 AM
Zeta Psi here, long team reader, first time poster. What I caught and I dont think was mentioned is that the 'Trotters probably finished before the Brothers, cuz if you notice, They took the time to put their clothes back on, whereas the brothers once they finished started darting towards the the next leg, and that made the trotters chase after them.  My guess, which was stated before, is that Meghan and Cheyne finish first. And Brian and Ericka do the non-physical challenge, along with Matt and his dad. But I have to imagine that speed bump hurts the father son enough to push them out. But man if they put the U-Turn in this leg, then I have no idea what's going to happen.

Hope some one use U Turn on Trotters.. And Trotter Bye Bye..  :neener: :neener:

 (:;) Don't hate on my Basketballers!  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 10:47:05 AM
heres the Prague spoiler, we have nothing to back it up and theres always that chance Gary and Matt were used at decoys


Quote
notes:
graytex (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,19088.msg440201.html#msg440201)
Haven't seen this here, but Masem at TWOP (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3187295&view=findpost&p=12036274) posted this:

Part of an addition to the TAR 15 article on Wikipedia that I had to remove due to lack of sourcing, but provided by user Awilmot there:
"On Wednesday August 5th, I have just seen 2 teams at Prague Castle, which was their pit stop. One pretty team (guy and girl in blue) and one all guy team (one with dyed hair)."
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 10:54:46 AM
Meghan and Cheyne could finish first for all we know? Meghan has proved shes as strong as the men. Glad I'm not playing for game points  :neener:

I thought i saw Meghan and Cheyne in it when Sam and Dan left?? Hmmmz Haha  :funny: :funny:
Look again! Its not Meghan and Cheyne  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2009, 11:47:12 AM
Just speculating....

IF the Trotter/Bro's collision was possibly determined to be deliberate, AND there was an assessed time penalty...perhaps that would be enough to knock the Trotters into last place. ???

Would REALLY hate them to go that way though...I'd rather think of them as doing well!

SO many little mysteries......

U-Turn? Penalties??  The other Detour?? :funny:

I like it!! :hearts:

My problem is at this stage of the game, I really don't want ANYONE to go!  :'(
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: zetapsi75 on November 14, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
The more and more i think about this, it's gotta be the 'Trotters getting the exit this week. I think they've been one of the most enjoyable teams to watch. But it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: littlewop on November 14, 2009, 11:57:47 AM
"One team gets a penalty for the first time ever on The Amazing Race for physically impeding the progress of another team..."
Could this make FT & BE have a penalty and Gary & Matt pass them in the PitStop while they are still waiting? Wasn't it supposed that Gary & Matt were seen in Viena (still racing, not decoys) ?

That quote about the penality is NOT a CBS quote, it was from another poster I believe, saying that if there was a penalty that would be the press release we would have seen.  As far as I know, CBS has not released anything regarding a penalty.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
The more and more i think about this, it's gotta be the 'Trotters getting the exit this week. I think they've been one of the most enjoyable teams to watch. But it doesn't look good.

Well...I think you have a 50% chance of being right! :lol:

And :welcome: to RFF zetapsi! :waves:

Thanks littlewop, I know it isn't anything but specualtion right now...just an idea.

The trotters and the Bro's could be running to a U-Turn, the Pitstop (most likely IMO), or off to lunch! :lol3:  :colealert:

The fun is trying to puzzle it out.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 12:20:02 PM

What about the confessional?


What Dan and Sam wear and in this confessional from EP8 Sam says "the globetrotters are definitely our rivals at this point ..they are the other all male team, they're very athletic they do pose a huge threat to us"


eta:

          
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: littlewop on November 14, 2009, 12:21:10 PM
So many what ifs this week. 
One point to remember is that there is no love lost between the brothers and the trotters.  After the alleged taxi fiasco prior to the mud volleyball, they could be all out racing each other simply because they don't like each other.
My 2 cents in regards to a U-turn.  Would TPTB really put a u-turn right before a pit stop?  Isn't it usually in the middle, so the team u-turned at least has a chance to catch back up? 
Plus I think if there was a u-turn, and since we "think" Meg/Cheyne may be in 1st place, they would be the ones to u-turn the trotters.  They want them gone as much as Dan/Sam, and I can see M/C being confident in beating D/S in the end. 
And doesn't CBS usually like to hype the u-turns?
My gut is still saying NO u-turn this week.

Hopefully we get some new promos today...I don't want to wait until tomorrow night for some of these answers!!!

                                                                           :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 12:27:38 PM
So many what ifs this week. 
One point to remember is that there is no love lost between the brothers and the trotters.  After the alleged taxi fiasco prior to the mud volleyball, they could be all out racing each other simply because they don't like each other.
My 2 cents in regards to a U-turn.  Would TPTB really put a u-turn right before a pit stop?  Isn't it usually in the middle, so the team u-turned at least has a chance to catch back up? 
Plus I think if there was a u-turn, and since we "think" Meg/Cheyne may be in 1st place, they would be the ones to u-turn the trotters.  They want them gone as much as Dan/Sam, and I can see M/C being confident in beating D/S in the end. 
And doesn't CBS usually like to hype the u-turns?
My gut is still saying NO u-turn this week.

Hopefully we get some new promos today...I don't want to wait until tomorrow night for some of these answers!!!

                                                                           :duno:

No they wouldn't, its someones speculation, we have no proof that there is a U-Turn at the pitstop  :lol:
The CBS clue states that the clash happens on the way to the pitstop not on the way to the Cluebox.
IMO if they were racing to first place or to avoid elimination CBS would have hyped it up. An no. I do not think there is any penalty, did Luke or Jen receive a penalty? NO!
I see Phil as playing the arbitrator again though. :browsie:
I agree with you littlewop.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Hooky on November 14, 2009, 12:28:24 PM

What about the confessional?


What Dan and Sam wear and in this confessional from EP8 Sam says "the globetrotters are definitely our rivals at this point ..they are the other all male team, they're very athletic they do pose a huge threat to us"


I don't think that this should be taken as evidence of anything. There have been times when certain teams have not taken into account the existence of other teams before. Anyone could make a simple mistake like this.

What leg does that confessional actually belong to? Were Sam & Dan wearing green/orange on Leg 8?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2009, 12:50:14 PM
Where was that video taken puddin? Do we know? I can't get it to play for me right now... :(

And no U-Turn at a PitStop...that was a joke...but if anyone was confused I added a disclaimer, :lol:!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 01:00:07 PM
I hosted it quick on photobucket, thats why it so sucks peach. I'll make a better one later. I assume its the pitstop in Estonia as thats what Sam and Dan are wearing plus there is that confessional with the Globetrotters in the web promo at the same location stating they were not going to let, the brothers I assume, take that cab away from them or something. I'm uploading a sports promo so can't check at the moment what exactly the Globetrotters said but the video is up a few pages back
And Hooky ,,,,,, the Brothers MUST know if the Globetrotters are still in the race or not seeing as they clash on the way to the pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 01:02:12 PM
I predict we are not going to get anything new from CBS


 
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 01:12:05 PM
Trotters: it was our taxi man there was no way they can take it from us.
Sam: they're literally just following us its just frustrating








Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 01:20:46 PM
try try again, the episode 8 confessional



 
Original Video - More videos at [banned image hosting site]
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Jobby on November 14, 2009, 01:57:01 PM
I do believe, and smell a penalty coming for FT/BE.. it seems as though they really did push Sam or Dan down. It was pretty foul play. Just replay the video a few more times and you'll realise that Sam/Dan was in first.. but FT or BE caught up and sort of grabbed/pushed them??
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 02:29:56 PM
What if Flight Time says that Dan shoved him first justifying his actions? We do see FT go down first then he comes back to tackle Dan. I'm telling you I expect a slow motion replay at the pitstop  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Hooky on November 14, 2009, 04:33:04 PM
I hosted it quick on photobucket, thats why it so sucks peach. I'll make a better one later. I assume its the pitstop in Estonia as thats what Sam and Dan are wearing plus there is that confessional with the Globetrotters in the web promo at the same location stating they were not going to let, the brothers I assume, take that cab away from them or something. I'm uploading a sports promo so can't check at the moment what exactly the Globetrotters said but the video is up a few pages back
And Hooky ,,,,,, the Brothers MUST know if the Globetrotters are still in the race or not seeing as they clash on the way to the pitstop.

No, no, no. I meant that when they say the Globetrotters are the only other male team, that does not mean that Gary & Matt are not still in the race. Plus, sometimes the teams give retrospective confessionals in order to keep them from spoiling the outcome. So the Globies could still be eliminated on this episode, and the producers just had Sam & Dan give that confessional segment to keep from spoiling the outcome.

But I do think that Gary & Matt will be eliminated this time. :'(
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 14, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
But here's the thing that actually doesn't make sense. Gary and Matt ARE an all male team, (unless we don't know something that they do...)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 14, 2009, 06:48:23 PM
But here's the thing that actually doesn't make sense. Gary and Matt ARE an all male team, (unless we don't know something that they do...)
I would think that with "the other all-male team" Sam & Dan were just referring to another possible threat.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2009, 07:37:21 PM
But here's the thing that actually doesn't make sense. Gary and Matt ARE an all male team, (unless we don't know something that they do...)
I would think that with "the other all-male team" Sam & Dan were just referring to another possible threat.

First..thank you for the video puddin!! :hearts:

Next...does anyone else think that is EDITED? There is a definite jump..a pause...between the words "They are the other"....and......"all male team". I know enough to know that the racer's words are often used out of context and edited to fit what TPTB need. Soundbites are frequently edited to fit the need.

With that kind of gap...the original line could have been something like "They are the other fit, athletic all male team".... see how editing makes a difference?  We could be getting some classic misdirection here.

I am totally not saying that the Gary/Matt are not the ones who go, but I find I am reluctant to base that on this confessional alone.

I also have that nagging feeling about the sighting in Prague.... G/M could have been decoys...but if so should NOT have been with M/C, are not usually at the PitStop at all, and it would be very unusual for a source to invent a pink-haired team.

My feeling is that we honestly don't know for sure who goes this time, between G/M and the Trotters.  But a footrace to the MAT for last place would be amazingly tense..and a little heartbreaking too. And might explain the altercation, whether intended or accidental.

Just thinking out loud!

But boy...makes a big difference in placements if we think Dan/Sam and the Trotters are fighting it out for second place, as compared to last!  :ascared
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 08:40:39 PM


I also have that nagging feeling about the sighting in Prague.... G/M could have been decoys...but if so should NOT have been with M/C, are not usually at the PitStop at all, and it would be very unusual for a source to invent a pink-haired team.


Someone went through a lot of trouble to fabricate the Masada supposed spoiler as well as the Mauritius fake spoiler.

Meghan and Cheyne are seen working together to get to the roadblock
Gary and Matt have a speedbump .. somewhere and then the detour
It appears Cheyne and Meghan arrive first at the mudpit
from the eyewitness Brian/Ericka The Trotters and the Brothers arrive together at the detour, share the same cab ..and they all arrived earlier than anticipated, hours early.
We don't know the other detour and if Brian and Ericka choose that? They could be first to the pitstop too?
I think I see a team or teams being filmed behind Sam and Dan, assuming here that they have completed the detour and are on their way to the pitstop with the Trotters in tow.
We lose Matt and Gary after their street scene in Tallin looking for a taxi probably. Not seen at the detour but doesn't mean they aren't there.
And come on, wouldn' the male teams have an edge in the volleyball pit? My take is the way they are running they are racing for first place.

just my 2 cents which could be completly off but its what I think and Gary and Matt, sadly are eliminated. All they need is a bad cab driver/bad directions to put them even farther behind.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 14, 2009, 09:03:35 PM


I also have that nagging feeling about the sighting in Prague.... G/M could have been decoys...but if so should NOT have been with M/C, are not usually at the PitStop at all, and it would be very unusual for a source to invent a pink-haired team.


Someone went through a lot of trouble to fabricate the Masada supposed spoiler as well as the Mauritius fake spoiler.

Meghan and Cheyne are seen working together to get to the roadblock
Gary and Matt have a speedbump .. somewhere and then the detour
It appears Cheyne and Meghan arrive first at the mudpit
from the eyewitness Brian/Ericka The Trotters and the Brothers arrive together at the detour, share the same cab ..and they all arrived earlier than anticipated, hours early.
We don't know the other detour and if Brian and Ericka choose that? They could be first to the pitstop too?
I think I see a team or teams being filmed behind Sam and Dan, assuming here that they have completed the detour and are on their way to the pitstop with the Trotters in tow.
We lose Matt and Gary after their street scene in Tallin looking for a taxi probably. Not seen at the detour but doesn't mean they aren't there.
And come on, wouldn' the male teams have an edge in the volleyball pit? My take is the way they are running they are racing for first place.

just my 2 cents which could be completly off but its what I think and Gary and Matt, sadly are eliminated. All they need is a bad cab driver/bad directions to put them even farther behind.
how about a surprise back-to-back NEL? Last season we thought the TBCs were gone but we all know how that ended. I wouldn't like to discard the improbable and unexpected.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: NoluckBoston on November 14, 2009, 09:04:16 PM
I agree with Puddin -

Unless the other task involved farming of some sort; you know Gary and Matt would choose the mud task. The editing up until now has always had them say things like they enjoy getting dirty.

I just feel that they are going to choose that mud task. Its very possible they are the team being video taped behind Sam.

I have thought about this scenario if you were Sam/Dan or the Trotters.

Meghan and Cheyne  Have left the detour and are on there way to the pitstop.
Brian and Erika are missing and may have already completed the the other detour.
Now Gary and Matt show up and you don't want them catching up to you to the pit stop.
This would cause panic and flight

I think both teams are running so not to fall behind to Gary and Matt back at the detour.

Just some guess on this very rainy night.  
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: littlewop on November 14, 2009, 09:47:06 PM
Okay TAR historians, have we ever had a NEL followed immediately by a TBC?   Could TPTB be trying to shake things up this year?

It seems very unlikely to me that Gary/Matt actually do so well this week, given the promos & the speedbump, that they beat both of the other male teams to the pit stop.
But the spotting of them in Prague makes me question whether they really are eliminated this week.

So we either have some creative editing (regarding Matt's difficulties) 
or the trotters get a penalty that knocks them out
or the sightings in Prague are misleading
or a TBC leg....hmmmm ?????????

I think, for me, this is the most anticipated episode of the season...so many questions need answered.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2009, 09:51:29 PM
Raining here too NoLuck and is as mild as hell for mid November.

I'm watching the videos over and over and can't see where peach sees the TWO people in that video. peach you could take screenshots, have at it  :tup:



There are two people in that shot...heading past the mudpit.

I do agree that the other detour has to be very nearby, so always possible another (non-mud) team could come by as well??

I have no idea if it is a team, or production, or random Estonian volleyballers.

But if the PitStop IS the Watchtower, they may be heading that way...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 14, 2009, 10:38:45 PM
Okay TAR historians, have we ever had a NEL followed immediately by a TBC?   Could TPTB be trying to shake things up this year?
This has happened only once before and it was in the Family Edition. The Weavers got the NEL in Salt Lake City, Utah, and then there was a TBC before the Godlewskis got eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Caelestor on November 14, 2009, 11:00:02 PM
Of course, Tallinn could be another NEL. The probability is low, though.
Besides, I would be mad if it is.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 12:22:43 AM


I'm watching the videos over and over and can't see where peach sees the TWO people in that video. peach you could take screenshots, have at it  :tup:


Okay I have fiddled this picture up, down, and inside out, and I'm going to give you this one. Your pics are much clearer than what I was working with, and I think I was seeing a ghostie due to the size, and not the second person I first thought.

Sorry...   :-[ :-[ :-[    new glasses on order!

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 12:26:22 AM
This one I have played with as well...

And I see a camera guy racing directly behing Nate...but cannot be clear about any other filming. I wonder if this is just the production "huddle" ?? There is one at every task...production, sometimes BVM, aides, in this case maybe extra volleyballers.... but there could be more going on re another team, I just can't be sure.

ALL SPEC :lol:


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/tar15ep9moreteamsbehindbrightenedjp.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 01:07:16 AM
SO trying to think this through...and I am just speculating so feel free to tell me if/where I go astray:

Matt/Gary are not seen at the ferry. Is that because they had already gone thru before primefun arrived?? Or did they come through after he left to go chase the teams. That could be the difference between first and last at that point. Have asked primefun which he thinks is more likely, hope to hear.

Primefun saw Gary/Matt in PIKK street first, clue in hand already, right? SO presumably after Matt had done the RB. He had time to chase them for a bit, before returning to the Blackhead house and starting to follow M/C, D/S, and  B/E.  SO at that point there was a fair bit of bunching.

But if he saw G/M already with the clue before the other teams....does that imply that they were FIRST at that point?? If they slipped off the ferry before he arrived, it could be possible. NOTICE I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS FACT, just trying to cover all of our bases. :lol:

But as puddin says, placement at that point doesn't really matter, a bad taxi could negate all lead they might possibly have had anyway. But then again, with a good taxi.... 


Just wondering. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 01:12:03 AM
Oh one more thing...I watched that video over and over again too...

Suppose Herb didn't tackle Dan, just stepped into a hole (he kinda disappears, big splash) and takes Dan down accidently too??

I can't wait for this part, I'm with puddin, I want SLO-MO too! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: jerseydude on November 15, 2009, 02:09:17 AM
SO trying to think this through...and I am just speculating so feel free to tell me if/where I go astray:

Matt/Gary are not seen at the ferry. Is that because they had already gone thru before primefun arrived?? Or did they come through after he left to go chase the teams. That could be the difference between first and last at that point. Have asked primefun which he thinks is more likely, hope to hear.

Primefun saw Gary/Matt in PIKK street first, clue in hand already, right? SO presumably after Matt had done the RB. He had time to chase them for a bit, before returning to the Blackhead house and starting to follow M/C, D/S, and  B/E.  SO at that point there was a fair bit of bunching.

But if he saw G/M already with the clue before the other teams....does that imply that they were FIRST at that point?? If they slipped off the ferry before he arrived, it could be possible. NOTICE I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS FACT, just trying to cover all of our bases. :lol:

But as puddin says, placement at that point doesn't really matter, a bad taxi could negate all lead they might possibly have had anyway. But then again, with a good taxi.... 


Just wondering. :duno:

Could this "other clue" actually be the speed bump because Matt had a hard time finding the Candle. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: gator27 on November 15, 2009, 07:25:24 AM
This one I have played with as well...

And I see a camera guy racing directly behing Nate...but cannot be clear about any other filming. I wonder if this is just the production "huddle" ?? There is one at every task...production, sometimes BVM, aides, in this case maybe extra volleyballers.... but there could be more going on re another team, I just can't be sure.

ALL SPEC :lol:


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2015/Ep%209%20Tallin%20Estonia/tar15ep9moreteamsbehindbrightenedjp.jpg)

Who owns the scarlet & gray backpack?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: gator27 on November 15, 2009, 07:29:06 AM
Oh one more thing...I watched that video over and over again too...

Suppose Herb didn't tackle Dan, just stepped into a hole (he kinda disappears, big splash) and takes Dan down accidentally too??


I support this theory.  Through the Sam & Dan filter it would be purposeful tripping.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 08:00:35 AM
jerseydude...yes, that's what it looks like.

Gator...scarlet and red is cameraguy I think??

And I am trying to thingk the best of everyone here. I would much rather believe that it was just a "hole"-y accident, ...but I am not sure I can, based on our screencaps. But we'll see, the camera won't lie.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 15, 2009, 08:07:54 AM
jerseydude...yes, that's what it looks like.

Gator...scarlet and red is cameraguy I think??

And I am trying to thingk the best of everyone here. I would much rather believe that it was just a "hole"-y accident, ...but I am not sure I can, based on our screencaps. But we'll see, the camera won't lie.

From what I've seen it looks as if FT trips first and then makes a wild grab for anything that can hold him up. The Anything in this case being Samuel and Daniel.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Lucybell on November 15, 2009, 09:40:12 AM
I do believe, and smell a penalty coming for FT/BE.. it seems as though they really did push Sam or Dan down. It was pretty foul play. Just replay the video a few more times and you'll realise that Sam/Dan was in first.. but FT or BE caught up and sort of grabbed/pushed them??

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What if Flight Time says that Dan shoved him first justifying his actions? We do see FT go down first then he comes back to tackle Dan. I'm telling you I expect a slow motion replay at the pitstop 

I too have watched the video over and over again.  Although CBS could be editing the heck out of this, it looks to me like Herb fell twice or at least almost fell and then did fall.  GT's were behind the brothers so for Herb to say the brothers started it would seem to be a lie.  Herb definitely had his hand on Dan's shoulder at the last fall.  So what it looked like to me was that Herb fell or almost fell, recovered and grabbed Dan's shoulder as he was falling again.  Was it to deliberately take Dan out or was he simply trying to break his second fall?  Either way, Dan was back on his feet before Herb and most likely S/D beat the GT's to the pitstop.

IMO If Herb deliberately tried to take Dan down, they need to incur a penalty.  The Luke and Jen thing doesn't even come close to this.  It was kind of even there.  Jen pushed him, he elbowed her.  (Love you Luke!  :-* )  If Herb was merely trying to break his fall ...  :duno:  If he was close enough to be able to grab hold of him, he should have gone around him!   :knuckles: CBS might not be hyping this up because they want us to form our own opinions of what went down and tune in to see the outcome.   If they hyped it up with talk of a penalty, most would definitely think, and possibly rightly so, that the GT's would be eliminated if they got a penalty.  That would kind of spoil it, right?   ;)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: kwando1313 on November 15, 2009, 09:50:04 AM
To me, it looks like Flight Time trips, grabs Dan because he's the closest thing, and falls. I mean...

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu170/kwando1313/Screenshot2009-11-15at75210AM.png)

He walks off the path and as a result, trips and falls.

And for the "second fall", what type of person tackles sideways? So... it really seems more like a trip to me...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: David on November 15, 2009, 10:00:39 AM
What do you think about having a TBC in this season? Some people said something about it, but I really think that, maybe, there can be a TBC in Vienna, as last season. The TBC didn't require teams to leave the city where they were, and maybe the same happens this season, making this Tallin's leg a EL, and the last NEL (that would be in Vienna) as a TBC. Maybe this makes sense to some of you?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Coutzy on November 15, 2009, 10:13:23 AM
I think Vienna will be an NEL of some sort because in recent history they have done it that way.

Season 14- Beijing
Season 13- India (Can't remember the city, but they stayed there)
Season 12- Japan
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: apskip on November 15, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
DavidMV,
Are you certain you havn't mistaken Vienna for the actual city for Episodes 10 adn 11? CBS has confirmed Prague with their Map and RFF has known it to be Prague for months.

I do agree with you major point that it would be ideal for a TBC. I love TBCs compared to NELs. I hope that the renewed trend staretd by AR14 of having one TBC in a season continues.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Lucybell on November 15, 2009, 10:20:53 AM
To me, it looks like Flight Time trips, grabs Dan because he's the closest thing, and falls. I mean...

(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu170/kwando1313/Screenshot2009-11-15at75210AM.png)

He walks off the path and as a result, trips and falls.

And for the "second fall", what type of person tackles sideways? So... it really seems more like a trip to me...

Guess we will have to watch and learn...  ;D
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: David on November 15, 2009, 10:31:19 AM
DavidMV,
Are you certain you havn't mistaken Vienna for the actual city for Episodes 10 adn 11? CBS has confirmed Prague with their Map and RFF has known it to be Prague for months.

I do agree with you major point that it would be ideal for a TBC. I love TBCs compared to NELs. I hope that the renewed trend staretd by AR14 of having one TBC in a season continues.

Sorry, just made a mistake. You're right, it's gotta be Prague!

PS: These two capital city are so near between them that I get congused sonetimes. Sorry.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 10:45:24 AM
David, I believe there will be NO TBC's this time. :angel
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: David on November 15, 2009, 10:49:12 AM
David, I believe there will be NO TBC's this time. :angel

Remember we're just speculating, :funny:  We should still take into account every single possibility.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: kittygoesmeow on November 15, 2009, 10:54:21 AM


Matt/Gary are not seen at the ferry. Is that because they had already gone thru before primefun arrived?? Or did they come through after he left to go chase the teams. That could be the difference between first and last at that point. Have asked primefun which he thinks is more likely, hope to hear.


I thought they were seen on the ferry? I definitely remember seeing Cheyne/Megan and Brian/Ericka on the ferry, I could've sworn the pictures were of Matt and Gary getting interviewed.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 10:57:43 AM


Matt/Gary are not seen at the ferry. Is that because they had already gone thru before primefun arrived?? Or did they come through after he left to go chase the teams. That could be the difference between first and last at that point. Have asked primefun which he thinks is more likely, hope to hear.


I thought they were seen on the ferry? I definitely remember seeing Cheyne/Megan and Brian/Ericka on the ferry, I could've sworn the pictures were of Matt and Gary getting interviewed.

Yes they were on the ferry.

But they are not seen getting OFF the ferry in primefun's videos...that's what i mean.

Hang on...incoming!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 10:59:07 AM
Okay, I know I am puzzling this half to death but I really want to make all our pieces fit. I asked primefun what he thought about Gary and Matt at the ferry...could they have been first off? Was he there in time to see them? Could they have been last off, and hence missed??

I also really think that there is a good possibility G/M finish the RB in first place, before heading off to do the Speedbump.

So I sent my list of Q's off to primefun, and here is what he kindly replied.

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- I was waiting at the ferry like an half an hour before the teams finally arrived, so i was there like 9:30 a.m. just standing there and waiting, was plotting to leave my car somewhere near to give them a ride if needed which made me nervous cause my car was parked in an illegal spot lol. So i was there nothing was happeneing and then suddenly BOOM! all these teams and cameramen ran out, it all happened so fast that i personally cannot remember any details, I was so busy filming it and all of this is in the first video... so like i said it all happened very fast and i think it is highly likely that i might have missed a team although i did get my camera out asap but there is a great chance one team could have ran also into the other side of the taxi stand, if you look at my first video at 13 seconds you can see there is some running/commotion goin on at the other side of the taxi stand too.


- So i basically left right after shooting the first video but this obviously gave the teams a head start as compared to me plus at the old town you cannot park everywhere thus i was struggling finding a parking spot upon arriving in pikk street, i think thanks to this i lost another couple of minutes, so it is hard to tell if i was there before the teams but i would think i was the last to arrive. Upon arrival next to the House of the blackheads i saw gary and matt and no other team (i think this might have been around 10:15 a.m.) and started following them into wrong direction, then ran back and saw ericka/brian and cheyne/meghan and took the 3rd video. So all together it is difficult to say what was going on as some teams might had arrived while i was following gary/matt (for only like a minute) or the other teams might have been inside the house of the blackheads.


I would think that gary and matt had already completed the task in the house of the blackheads upon my arrival but it is bizarre why they ran into the wrong direction as all other teams went to Toompea. As for placing gary and matt i would think they might have been in the first place.

So my take on all this is that G/M must finish the RB in the lead, or at least ahead of B/E, M/C, and S/D.  

What happens next?? No idea.  But I tend to think G/M may be safe this week.

Feel free to convince me otherwise, we have 8 hours to speculate!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: littlewop on November 15, 2009, 12:34:17 PM
Peach, my gut tends to agree with you that G/M may be safe this week.  But that darn S/D confessional keeps replaying in my mind.  That makes it sound like the Trotters are in and G/M are out. 
But if it was edited/spliced together in anyway, which is possible since we don't actually see them the entire time they are talking.  The GT remark could be an old remark.  Also, the athletic remark could be said about M/C, and since G/M are an all male team, they could have been talking about them, with the GT part added from another time.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Caelestor on November 15, 2009, 01:02:58 PM
I think Vienna will be an NEL of some sort because in recent history they have done it that way.

Season 14- Beijing
Season 13- India (Can't remember the city, but they stayed there)
Season 12- Japan


Japan had only one leg. India was in New Delhi, then Old Delhi. However, it was merely two legs.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 01:34:09 PM
Peach, my gut tends to agree with you that G/M may be safe this week.  But that darn S/D confessional keeps replaying in my mind.  That makes it sound like the Trotters are in and G/M are out. 
But if it was edited/spliced together in anyway, which is possible since we don't actually see them the entire time they are talking.  The GT remark could be an old remark.  Also, the athletic remark could be said about M/C, and since G/M are an all male team, they could have been talking about them, with the GT part added from another time.

All I know is that I think G/M were leading after the RB...what happens next could propel them into first, last, or somewhere in between.

This will be a great episode to watch!! Lots of questions...
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Hooky on November 15, 2009, 04:08:58 PM
What do you think about having a TBC in this season? Some people said something about it, but I really think that, maybe, there can be a TBC in Vienna, as last season. The TBC didn't require teams to leave the city where they were, and maybe the same happens this season, making this Tallin's leg a EL, and the last NEL (that would be in Vienna) as a TBC. Maybe this makes sense to some of you?

At the beginning of TAR 14, Phil said there would be "a number of legs," and the map had 12 legs on it. This allowed for the TBC in China, which I believe they intended to have as a surprise for viewers. But in this season he said there would be "12 legs", and the map only has 12 legs on it, thus I don't believe there will be a TBC in this season. But I wouldn't be surprised if it happens anyway. It doesn't seem like they value being honest anymore. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Hooky on November 15, 2009, 04:34:31 PM
I speculate that Gary & Matt may have to do the Speed Bump before the Roadblock, and then they struggle at the Roadblock. I don't know if they would have had time to complete the Roadblock that fast and yet still have struggled at it. But it could just be a minor problem edited to look like they are doomed. It's hard to know. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 05:25:18 PM
 Could you refresh my memory Hooky? When and where the speedbump appeared in past seasons?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Hooky on November 15, 2009, 05:32:21 PM
Could you refresh my memory Hooky? When and where the speedbump appeared in past seasons?

Like on which part of each leg? Hmm...

List of Previous Speed Bump Route Marker Locations, By Season:

Note that this is where the ROUTE MARKER appeared, not necessarily the actual task.

Season 12:
Leg 8: At the Detour cluebox (Chauhan Alteration Tailors)
Leg 10: At the Roadblock cluebox (Acrobatics Jeep)

Season 13:
Leg 7: At the Detour cluebox (Charity Birds Hospital)
Leg 10: At the Detour cluebox (Sokolniki Park)

Season 14:
Leg 6: At the Detour cluebox (Johari Bazar Road – Ramniwas Ramgopal Puppet Store)
Leg 9: At a Route Info cluebox (Hair Salon)

Season 15:
Leg 2: At a Route Info cluebox (Bến Tàu Du Lịch Dock)
Leg 9: My guess is right before the Roadblock

Is that what you wanted? ???
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Caelestor on November 15, 2009, 05:42:57 PM
Could you refresh my memory Hooky? When and where the speedbump appeared in past seasons?

They usually appear mid-leg.

TAR 12 Mumbai leg (8): Right before the detour/u-turn.
TAR 12 Taiwan leg (10): Right after the roadblock.
TAR 13 India leg 2 (7): Right before the detour.
TAR 13 Moscow leg 2 (10): Right before the detour.
TAR 14 Jaipur leg (6): Right before the detour. (India has quite a few speedbumps!)
TAR 14 Guilin leg (9): Right before the roadblock.
TAR 15 Cai Be leg (2): Right at the start.
TAR 15 Tallinn leg (9): I predict it's between the roadblock and the detour.

EDIT: was beat to it  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 05:45:44 PM
gotcha Hooky, how could I forget this!?

This leg's Detour required teams to choose between Paste 'Em or Thread 'Em. In Paste 'Em, teams made their way to a marked underpass in Tulsi Pipe Road of Dadar West Bridge and used the provided supplies to properly paste a 6-panel Bollywood movie poster onto the wall. When the advertisement was complete, they would receive their next clue. In Thread 'Em, teams made their way to Dadar Flower Market and found a marked flower stall called Shyam Pandurang Bhagat where they had to create a traditional wedding garland by threading 108 flowers in an alternating pattern (red, orange, yellow). When the judge agreed that the garland had been properly made, teams needed to deliver it to a nearby bridegroom and exchange it for their next clue. In this Roadblock, one team member had to load a bicycle cart with six tanks of propane gas, pedal to the two addresses listed on their order slips, deliver three tanks to each address, and then take a receipt from the homeowner's door as proof of delivery. Once their deliveries were complete, they had to hand the foreman their two order slips and two receipts to receive their next clue. The Speed Bump task requires Kynt & Vyxsin to find the Yoga Master and successfully perform a series of Yoga poses before being allowed to continue the race and do the Detour.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 15, 2009, 05:53:08 PM
Could you refresh my memory Hooky? When and where the speedbump appeared in past seasons?

They usually appear mid-leg.

TAR 12 Mumbai leg (8): Right before the detour/u-turn.
TAR 12 Taiwan leg (10): Right after the roadblock.
TAR 13 India leg 2 (7): Right before the detour.
TAR 13 Moscow leg 2 (10): Right before the detour.
TAR 14 Jaipur leg (6): Right before the detour. (India has quite a few speedbumps!)
TAR 14 Guilin leg (9): Right before the roadblock.
TAR 15 Cai Be leg (2): Right at the start.
TAR 15 Tallinn leg (9): I predict it's between the roadblock and the detour.

EDIT: was beat to it  (:;)
Maybe the producers won't be up for it, but in TARLA the first two speed bumps to appear happened at the beginning of the leg and right before the Pit Stop, respectively. Estonia could be the former? Though, I'd guess it would be right after the Roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: mswood on November 15, 2009, 08:24:05 PM
Does anyone think Brian's choice of Halloween Costumes is a big spoiler on who would have won?

I would ask in that thread but it isn't a spoiler thread.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Dånooky on November 15, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
I think I might have missed it, but who said the title?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: mswood on November 15, 2009, 08:26:53 PM
I missed it too.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: chill_sd on November 15, 2009, 08:33:34 PM
I think I might have missed it, but who said the title?

Brian said it right after the detour.  Almost at the end of the episode.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 15, 2009, 08:36:34 PM
Does anyone think Brian's choice of Halloween Costumes is a big spoiler on who would have won?

I would ask in that thread but it isn't a spoiler thread.

Hmmmmm... Maybe Brian beat them??  :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 08:38:49 PM
 :flirt:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 08:42:54 PM
 :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 15, 2009, 08:43:07 PM
Hahah first time they comment about Hot guys..  :funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 08:48:54 PM
this looks like the future ......? or was it pre show? I'll have to look.

ETA: Yup it was  pre show

Ericka: Brian, im going to have to keep him in check because i'm more capable of being a dirty player than he is
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:03:54 PM
John is awesome!! Hope he'll come join in the fun!  MORE:

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After completing a task in Tallinn, they had a clue that said only "Tarsi talu, Raplamaa" and three teams acted together and stopped a van and asked the driver for this place. And believe it or not - the driver knew and took all 3 teams there. They were expected around 2-3 pm, but they arrived about 11:30. When they arrived, they all (3 teams) ran off to the wrong direction and made an enormous circle before arriving to the right spot. And the volleyball event itself was supposed to be hilarious :D



Sometimes what people hear might not always be true, obviously Erika and Brian took their own cab after being left in the dust by Meghan and Cheyne who didn't care about them but they did arrive as the same time as FT/BE and the brothers and the wrong direction was right. Thanks John for all the info!  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
I was def wrong on this leg...

But can someone please explain why matt/gary had a detour clue in hand...before they do the Speedbump or RB? That's what threw me off into thinking they were leading at that point.

Unless that wasn't a Detour Clue? ???
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:11:31 PM
departure times and we actually see the crew sleeping in the car with the trotters
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 09:15:20 PM
I don't EVER remember a season with such sloppy editing...remember when seeing a camera was a once-in-a-blue-moon thing??
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:15:52 PM
I was def wrong on this leg...

But can someone please explain why matt/gary had a detour clue in hand...before they do the Speedbump or RB? That's what threw me off into thinking they were leading at that point.

Unless that wasn't a Detour Clue? ???
 
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 09:18:36 PM
Okay then, :funny: that explains that!!

Thanks puddin...:kuss:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:25:18 PM
coming up . scenes from primefuns video  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:30:43 PM
the ***bus  :lol: , poor Gary and Matt were tortured! What a brutal speedbump!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
FT coloring the clue as if he were in kindergarten  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 15, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
In Primefun's video, we see M/C and B/E running up Olevimagi. But in the episode, M/C had the lead going in. So that must have been them taking a wrong turn after solving the parchment.
And the confessional makes sense now as well: with Montana eliminated, the Trotters were the only other all-male team.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:36:31 PM
the crayon helped he missed it when he set it down ,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 09:37:46 PM
Geeee....I wanna sauna bus too!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:40:55 PM

And the confessional makes sense now as well: with Montana eliminated, the Trotters were the only other all-male team.
Thats what I've been saying all along   :tup:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:42:57 PM
Brian asks M/C driver to call them a taxi and Meghan is like I don't care about them "we just want to go we don't care about them just forget the other taxi ........." :naughty:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 15, 2009, 09:44:53 PM
Quote
Geeee....I wanna sauna bus too!!
No Problem (http://ofi.ee/index.php?page=saunabuss&hl=ee_EE) (throw in some extra euros and they'll include a hottub (sauna tub, they call it).  :shower: (no sauna smileys)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:45:45 PM
Matt does the rub too  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:48:09 PM
and now a scene from the video that Slowhatch found  :jam:

camera men everywhere if you watched the show
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
^^ I actually thought FT had a detour clue in his hand in the video but couldn't snag it good enough to prove it
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 09:57:45 PM
Matt and Gary have their taxi driver call M/C's cab to tell them to go slowly  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: michael on November 15, 2009, 09:59:13 PM
I had no idea wtf a "candlebra" or whatever it's called was either so I would have  been just like Matt if I was on this season  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:00:41 PM
Meghan and Cheyne made the detour look like a walk in the park!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:03:15 PM
some detour location stuff just because
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:05:39 PM
peach, your fuzzy person is the clue girl  :lol:
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Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:07:20 PM
Meghan and Cheyne, totally flawless leg  :jam:
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 10:11:24 PM
Wow, clue girl had to hightail it to get there, :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:12:41 PM
I actually thought the Trotters might have ran the wrong way to the pitstop, wish I had said something earlier  :groan:

Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:15:33 PM
Brian: were not made for the swamp  :lol:


 :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
they were doomed from the get go  :(

Rock on Pinky and The Brain!  :casey :jam:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 15, 2009, 10:27:10 PM
The bus was parked halfway down Pikk st., in front of St. Olaf church (http://www.tallinn.info/pano/?id=120700).
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
I agree puddin, there was never really a chance to catch up here??
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Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:29:45 PM
The bus was parked halfway down Pikk st., in front of St. Olaf church (http://www.tallinn.info/pano/?id=120700).
St. Olaf !? Get the heck out of here  :funny: !?

The door is it the small door Maria and Tiffany went??  :duno:

Pic.. Puddin.. Is lovely.. :) :hearts: :hearts:
autowil, from St Olaf?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 10:31:55 PM
I thought that was where you found that, :lol:  Heeee....
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2009, 10:33:01 PM
I checked ferry prices today...144 Euros for a 2 person inside booth... one way.

Teams must have received well over $$200....
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 10:34:16 PM
autowil reminds me of Rose from the Golden Girls .. that's how he got his title  :lol:! Of course I am the Mayor of St Olaf and the original Rose so ......  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Slowhatch on November 15, 2009, 10:45:23 PM
Puddin, do you have any caps of the Blackhead door? Photos like this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shnuggy/2990758698/sizes/o/) make me think it was an "amazing" door lock.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 15, 2009, 10:48:45 PM
Nice caps!!!

Yah i want see the door!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: autowil on November 15, 2009, 10:50:56 PM
autowil reminds me of Rose from the Golden Girls .. that's how he got his title  :lol:! Of course I am the Mayor of St Olaf and the original Rose so ......  :jam:

Haha..    :funny: :funny: :funny: I love Golden Girls.. Heard one of them died..   :'(
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 15, 2009, 11:22:11 PM
I had no idea wtf a "candlebra" or whatever it's called was either so I would have  been just like Matt if I was on this season  :lol:

It's a candlestick with different candles on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candelabra

It sound like the word "Candle" so that should give some sort of a clue.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Jobby on November 15, 2009, 11:41:28 PM
This episode would have been exciting if Brian and Ericka finished the Detour/check-in in second, with Gary and Matt checking-in third. The pitstop run between Sam/Dan and FT/BE to avoid elimination could have easily be this season's best moment.

BUT, Gary and Matt were too lost... and thus were eliminated. Kinda sad, because they're starting to grow on me and they're really a nice team. Love the Roadblock and the Detour was fun. A U-TURN at this point would have been exciting since both Detours are just side by side.. but they didn't put a U-TURN, thus this leg was kinda mild in excitement.

Meghan/Cheyne are just too fast, while the comeptition between the 2 all-male teams seem to be like a total bitch fight. But what they didn't realise is that Meghan beat the two teams hands down. :funny:

Brian and Ericka is the underdog this season and since i'm forever rooting for the underdogs... GO BRIAN AND ERICKA! I love them and Meghan and Cheyne and can't wait to see them go to the final 3! :)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 11:49:35 PM
Puddin, do you have any caps of the Blackhead door? Photos like this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shnuggy/2990758698/sizes/o/) make me think it was an "amazing" door lock.
Fake  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Mandoli on November 15, 2009, 11:51:44 PM
Haha..    :funny: :funny: :funny: I love Golden Girls.. Heard one of them died..   :'(

Out of the four Golden Girls, two of them died. Not too far from each other, too.

I agree with what's been said here -- it's pretty much safe to say that Gary/Matt were in trouble from the start. Add in the five-minute sauna Speed Bump, and the chances of them coming in anything but last place weren't very good.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2009, 11:55:15 PM
Nice catch Slowhatch  :jam:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 16, 2009, 02:36:42 PM
Wow loved this episode and am so sad Gary and Matt had to go... all the other teams are male-male or alpha male-female which is fine as ive grown to love actually all of them by now but its always fun to see teams that arent alpha get far, with gary/matt as a Father/son team out we will have to do with the alphas :) personally its very difficult to pick a single favourite at the moment...

also loved to see the places i was chasing the teams at, i will get a screenshot later on with me actually in the show but its only for a second and im like miles away from the camera  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2009, 02:40:32 PM
Hey primefun! Thank you again!  :yess:  :jam:  .....how exciting it must have been for you being there then watching how it all unfolded! If I knew what you look like I would grab the shot for you or where exactly you were standing  :<3
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 16, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
So here are the pictures, first picture of me in a wierd angle lol and the second one is where harrassed by production
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Post by: DrRox on November 16, 2009, 06:03:41 PM
Thank you primefun for all your work on this eipode!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2009, 06:25:16 PM
Your famous primefun! thank you thank you!  :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2009, 06:34:59 PM
We need to give you that as an avatar!!  :wohoo:

For those who don't know...primefun should have had hazardadous duty pay as he endured some serious hassle from production...and still managed to get the goods!!

You're a star, :thankyou: again!!
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: primefun on November 17, 2009, 01:46:19 AM
was my pleasure, lots of fun and a dream come true... next goal would be to become US citizen (as this is the only way) and get in the show itself lol, by the way have any of you tried to get on the show then?
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 17, 2009, 03:01:22 PM
Not me personally, but I know of someone who was very close to being selected for this current season and might be selected for next. I can't divulge who that is because that person cannot talk about it. But it would be a very good choice if he/she is chosen for TAR16.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: puddin on November 18, 2009, 11:15:16 PM
I'm re watching the show Slowhatch, when Ericka pulls her key out the fake wall almost comes with her  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Jobby on November 22, 2009, 07:31:08 AM
I don't EVER remember a season with such sloppy editing...remember when seeing a camera was a once-in-a-blue-moon thing??

I remembered that on last season, they forgot to edit away Tammy and Victor asking for 4 tickets... (cameraman and soundman)... getting sloppy, really.
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: :jerry: on December 04, 2009, 07:42:43 PM
Is it just me...

I first thought Lisa of Eric and Lisa looked like Pheobe from Friends.

And then I heard Meaghan say : "GOODBYE SWEDEN" on the ferry

That just reminded me of Pheobe's Jennifer Aniston Message "I'm Swedish" scene

LOL
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Dånooky on December 04, 2009, 08:47:44 PM
Is it just me...

I first thought Lisa of Eric and Lisa looked like Pheobe from Friends.

And then I heard Meaghan say : "GOODBYE SWEDEN" on the ferry

That just reminded me of Pheobe's Jennifer Aniston Message "I'm Swedish" scene

LOL
IMO, Meghan is the one that looks like Phoebe and Brian gives me a Chandler vibe :P
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: Boingo on December 22, 2009, 12:09:03 PM
 
:cmas22  Someone's album of Saunabuss pictures (http://www.flickr.com/photos/saunabuss/)
Title: Re: TAR15 EP9: "We’re Not Meant for the Swamp" (Estonia)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 22, 2009, 10:08:42 PM
Oh I love it! Thanks Boingo!!