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Title: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2009, 09:58:47 AM
05/03 
Two titles both Alice Cooper related:

He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper (China)
No More Mr. Nice Guy (China)

Clues:


*The Racers must eat fried scorpions at a Roadblock,
**Racers crunch on fried scorpion among other Chinese critters.
 
*COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN
**Colorful teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started.
***This week's U-Turn isn't anonymous but that doesn't stop one team from throwing another under the bus.
****... but even the distaste of a scorpion pales in comparison to the cutthroat behavior of a Team that publicly throws another under a bus with a U-Turn .

 
Detours:
Opera Makeup: at the Huguang Guild Hall aka Wenchang Ge thanks to Boingo and Neobie
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0008-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0008-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0014-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0014-1.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010-2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-2.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-2.jpg)Marge & Luke

we know Jen/Kisha and Cara & Jamie do the makeup as well

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0012.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0012.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0019.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0019.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0018.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0018.jpg)

Chateau spots Kisha & Jen getting makeup at the same time as Luke & Marge
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0012-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0012-1.jpg)

of course we've got a gnome :gnome

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0022-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0022-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0013-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0013-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0006-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0006-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0018-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0018-1.jpg)


and someone gets U-Turned
Clues:
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN
**Colorful teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started.
***This week's U-Turn isn't anonymous but that doesn't stop one team from throwing another under the bus.
****... but even the distaste of a scorpion pales in comparison to the cutthroat behavior of a Team that publicly throws another under a bus with a U-Turn


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0019-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0019-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0020-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0020-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-1.jpg)

teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0017.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0017.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0018.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0018.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0032.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0032.jpg)


moving on the the Roadblock

*The Racers must eat fried scorpions at a Roadblock,
**Racers crunch on fried scorpion among other Chinese critters.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0012.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0012.jpg) Jen with Kisha watching

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0007.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0007.jpg) Victor with Tammy watching

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010.jpg)Marge with Luke watching

and we think these are pitstop confessionals .. (still looking for the exact place)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0092.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0092.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0090.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0090.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0072.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0072.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0038.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0038.jpg)


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who wins this leg?  :winner
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0018-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0018-1.jpg)

who heads off to Maui as decoys? (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg392676.html#msg392676) thanks Pedaler  :dontgo:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_DSCF0164.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/DSCF0164.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 23, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
05/03  He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper (China)

Could this do something about hair or dresses??  :lol: I wonder if this would be a Margie quote??
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Slowhatch on April 23, 2009, 10:05:42 AM
A Chinese Opera task?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2009, 10:17:39 AM
Maybe they have to bite the heads off of live chickens while donning Coopers famous stage makeup :nut:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Ray! on April 23, 2009, 10:18:05 AM
Sounds interesting. Although I could see anyone saying this. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2009, 11:36:59 AM
A Chinese Opera task?
This just hit me! Good thought Slowhatch! I had a flashback to Survivor China.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Ashe on April 23, 2009, 11:44:15 AM
I think this'll be a Margie quote.  That sounds like the name of someone from back in her day.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2009, 12:19:27 PM
I think this'll be a Margie quote.  That sounds like the name of someone from back in her day.

Watch it, bud!! :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Alice Cooper for the babies on the site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cooper
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Boingo on April 23, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
 :lol: and now he's living in Arizona and has a restaurant called Alice Cooperstown (http://www.alicecooperstown.com/)   :jam:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Ashe on April 23, 2009, 02:14:21 PM
I think this'll be a Margie quote.  That sounds like the name of someone from back in her day.

Watch it, bud!! :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Alice Cooper for the babies on the site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cooper
Looks like her, too, when I look at the picture at that link.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Ruth on April 23, 2009, 02:53:13 PM
I'm guessing Margie says that. Cos she kinda looks like Alice Cooper lol!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Snooky on April 23, 2009, 05:18:49 PM
I'm guessing Margie says that. Cos she kinda looks like Alice Cooper lol!
They do look a little alike don't they!
 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Belle Book on April 23, 2009, 06:42:35 PM
I think this'll be a Margie quote.  That sounds like the name of someone from back in her day.

If it's a Margie quote, then we can safely say that she & Luke make it to the finals.  Since Cara & Jamie were spotted with Margie & Luke, we can also say that Cara & Jamie will make it to the finals.  The third spot, however, is up for grabs.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 23, 2009, 08:02:42 PM
I think this'll be a Margie quote.  That sounds like the name of someone from back in her day.

If it's a Margie quote, then we can safely say that she & Luke make it to the finals.  Since Cara & Jamie were spotted with Margie & Luke, we can also say that Cara & Jamie will make it to the finals.  The third spot, however, is up for grabs.

Belle Book

Problem being "if" EP10 is a NonElim then really it could be any of the final 4 for the title and the final 3 spots are still up for grabs.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Ruth on April 24, 2009, 11:49:57 AM
Isn't Episode 11 also the final four? I mean, if next leg's an NEL which it should be, so doesn't really say much. IF next leg's an NEL that is.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Coutzy on April 24, 2009, 11:56:05 AM
Unless they want to throw a speedbump into the last leg (If this happens it will probably be before some sort of leveller) I'd say its pretty safe that leg 10 is an NEL.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: littlewop on April 24, 2009, 01:40:33 PM
I think this'll be a Margie quote.  That sounds like the name of someone from back in her day.

I have kids from age 11 to age 26...and they all know who Alice Cooper is.  So the younger teams may know him because of their parents!
                                                      :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Hooky on April 25, 2009, 09:51:18 PM
I never knew who the heck he was. I though he was a she! :lol:

Imagine my profound surprise when the picture on Wikipedia blared onto the screen. :ascared :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 25, 2009, 11:29:51 PM
For those of you who never saw the great Alice Cooper, here are three videos. He was the Marilyn Manson of his day.

First, his most famous song, "School's Out"



One of his famous appearances was on the Muppet Show in 1976. One of my favorite songs, "Welcome To My Nightmare".



And from a more recent appearance on Late Show with David Letterman, here's him singing another one of his bigger hits, "No More Mr. Nice Guy."



For those of us who are old enough to remember, Alice truly rocked and mixed theatrics in his live show. Definitely fun to watch.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: mswood on April 26, 2009, 01:52:20 PM
And he plays a hell of a game of golf.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 26, 2009, 03:27:04 PM
That he does.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:03:36 PM
We've got a gnome!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 08:06:08 PM
Oh good catch puddin!! GNOMES!!

HEEEE> I predict someone WILL be eliminated this leg. :neener:   :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
Oh good catch puddin!! GNOMES!!

HEEEE> I predict someone WILL be eliminated this leg. :neener:   :funny: :funny:

Travelocity does it again... Well at least it's not Caltex, Singha, Standard Chartered or SONY for that matter...  :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:10:42 PM
Oh good catch puddin!! GNOMES!!

HEEEE> I predict someone WILL be eliminated this leg. :neener:   :funny: :funny:
I'll keep my order of arrivals from EP10 over to 11 :neener:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: jerseydude on April 26, 2009, 08:11:27 PM
So since this is a TBC, that means that there will probably be a U-turn and/or a fast foward because from what i remember from previous seasons, there was once a Fast Foward on the second half of a double leg meaning that probably K/J or T/V will go for it depending on how far behind they are from M/J and J/C.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Slowhatch on April 26, 2009, 08:12:03 PM
At first glance, it appears to be the makeup (http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/01397/ctumface.htm) for general Guan Yu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guan_yu).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:12:36 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0004.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0005.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0006.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0012.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0013.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0014.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Belle Book on April 26, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
Oh good catch puddin!! GNOMES!!

HEEEE> I predict someone WILL be eliminated this leg. :neener:   :funny: :funny:

And I think that someone -- or to be more accurate, some team -- won't be either Cara & Jamie or Margie & Luke (if Margie's the one who says the title quote, that is).  It's between Tammy & Victor or LaKisha & Jen.

And btw, Jerseydude, although I agree that a U-Turn will be used, I think there's only one Fast-Forward and it was in Phuket.  No one went for it.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 08:14:06 PM
So since this is a TBC, that means that there will probably be a U-turn and/or a fast foward because from what i remember from previous seasons, there was once a Fast Foward on the second half of a double leg meaning that probably K/J or T/V will go for it depending on how far behind they are from M/J and J/C.

There will be NO Fast Forwards anymore...

The Chinese Opera seems to be a Detour...

The delicacies seem to be a Roadblock... (is it? Or could the Opera people shifted to the Delicacy detour?? Hmmm...)

Everyone's doing it...

We see Tammy and Victor without Makeup, then other teams proceeding with make up and opera suit on being a commotion and a laugh to Beijing's locals...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:15:03 PM
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Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: hakushu8 on April 26, 2009, 08:16:48 PM
What's up with Tammy/Victor's lack of make-uppery? I think it's either:

1. Make up task and something else are the detour options and the eating is a miscellaneous task.
 
-OR-

2. They only put make up on the racers who are NOT Chinese and the eating task and something else are detour options.

I'm leaning more on (1) though.  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 08:18:37 PM
puddin...

CAN WE SPECULATE:

T/V first goes to the Roadblock? I can see no cars on the road, and the sun does not shine that brightly at Victor, whereas,

Margie and Luke and Kisha and Jen had cars on their backs (specifically Margie and Luke and a busier street with cars running...) The sunlight hits Jen and Kisha and Margie and Luke's face tell me like its around 8 - 9 am or something, while Tammy and Victor goes to that place like 7 - 8 am?

AGAIN, JUST A SPECULATION...

But hey, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! CHINESE CULTURE!!!!! THEY TOOK 14 SEASONS TO EXEMPLIFY THE REAL CHINESE CULTURE!!! Even so... YAY for TPTB and WRP!!!  :jam: :yess: :hearts: :hearts: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 08:20:41 PM
What's up with Tammy/Victor's lack of make-uppery? I think it's either:

1. Make up task and something else are the detour options and the eating is a miscellaneous task.
 
-OR-

2. They only put make up on the racers who are NOT Chinese and the eating task and something else are detour options.

I'm leaning more on (1) though.  :snicker:
SPEC:
The eating task is a roadblock, only 1 team member is eating...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: hakushu8 on April 26, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
Oh wait.

Eating task is the roadblock.

Roadblockers:
1. Victor
2. Margie
3. Jen
4. Jamie/Cara, unknown at this point.

So the make-uppery thing is a detour option. Wonder what the other one is...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 08:25:32 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0028.jpg)

(http://photo.8j.com/1/05/36/0-05120503323436372.jpg) (http://photo.8j.com/1/05/36/0-05120503323436372.jpg)

Xuanwu District, just south of Heping Gate Station, very near where the Chos got lost in TAR 10.1.



Looks like generic role makeup rather than a character makeup... The female 'dan' and the clown 'chou'!
Oh God their makeup looks ugly (by Chinese standards)... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: DrRox on April 26, 2009, 08:25:58 PM
Oh wait.

Eating task is the roadblock.

Roadblockers:
1. Victor
2. Margie
3. Jen
4. Jamie/Cara, unknown at this point.

So the make-uppery thing is a detour option. Wonder what the other one is...

Jamie
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 26, 2009, 08:26:19 PM
No one is holding any gnomes during the roadblock. So I assume the gnomes come after.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Cocoa on April 26, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0009.jpg)



This picture from above has a clue with a RB in it though.... Look at the red color in the clue on the table...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 08:33:05 PM
From the promo screencaps...

PURE SPECULATION:
 
I THINK Tammy and Victor are first... Tammy looks quite blossoming with her smile and the daylight seems to be so early still...
I THINK Jaime and Cara are lost at the same time while Tammy and Victor are in the eating roadblock.
I THINK Kisha and Jen and Margie and Luke are fighting for last place...
I THINK There's only one Travelocity Gnome... or they needed to exchange it for their next clue like Auckland leg last season.

This is for the fun of it all...

Luke looks so much happy having make up on and the chinese opera costume on his face! Just look at him in the screencaps!  :funny:

SPOILER/SPECULATIONS

THUS, patterning it to the spoiler that we had last time...
Jaime and Cara were talking about a fighting third team to Margie and Luke = Tammy/Victor whom is probable to have an edge over the others because of that footage...
Margie and Luke arrives last at the airport for the final leg, does not see Tammy and Victor fight or brush off each other, while Jaime and Cara sees them though, and they tell the story to Margie and Luke. It also makes sense that they get ahead of the others at JAL and eventually landing with Phil and BVM. what happens next... you gotta watch the finale!

SPOILER/SPECULATIONS

Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 26, 2009, 08:39:45 PM
Does the # 2 mean anything? I noticed it hanging from there bag.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0017.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 08:40:51 PM
The # 2 means that its their bag numbers... bag numbers are given to all teams prior to the start of the race...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: DrRox on April 26, 2009, 08:44:19 PM
The gnomes could be in their taxis......along with their backpacks
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: jerseydude on April 26, 2009, 08:48:07 PM
The road block is at 北京王府井东华门. It is famous for its starfish and bugs which they the racers are eating. It should be easy to find and there is a white fence behind it like it was in the preview.

(http://i39.[banned image hosting site].com/ildqxf.jpg)
(http://i39.[banned image hosting site].com/65vaq9.jpg)
(http://i43.[banned image hosting site].com/v6qi51.jpg)
(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/2j1n4ec.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
Got the address!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0028.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0029.jpg)

30 and 44 Glaze Factory St E (Liuli Chang Dongjie), Xuanwu District

Wangfujing Food Street? That's the same place for the food Roadblock 13 seasons ago!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 08:50:29 PM
What's the name please?/ I only see boxes, lol....
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: DrRox on April 26, 2009, 08:52:49 PM
What's the name please?/ I only see boxes, lol....

Same here Peach.......LOL
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: jerseydude on April 26, 2009, 08:53:30 PM
Wang Fu Jing Dong Huan Men Night Market( i originally typed it in chinese) which is the same as TAR1 but different location cuz this is where the actual stalls where they have to eat and it is famous to all tourist and a lot of people at night. I've been there.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 08:55:38 PM
Wang Fu Jing Dong Huan Men Night Market( i originally typed it in chinese) which is the same as TAR1 but different location cuz this is where the actual stalls where they have to eat and it is famous to all tourist and a lot of people at night. I've been there.

Thank you!! Nice job!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Cocoa on April 26, 2009, 09:01:11 PM
Is this the same location for the eating task?

It says:

"Location: Dong-an-men-da-jie
 Opening Hours: 4:30 PM to 10:30 PM"

From this website: http://www.west-meet-east.com/travelbe2.htm#dwm

Maybe the store where they ate was opened for them for the show...

From another website:

Dong Hua Men Avenue, Dong Cheng District
Beijing, 11 100005 China
Open Hours
5p-10p daily.
Overview
This night market has to be seen to be believed. Eager crowds jostle alongside red and white stalls, responding to the calls of vendors or the sight of something delicious or extraordinary to behold. Food comes on skewers, in soup bowls, wrapped in tortillas, or even in half a pineapple, and includes familiar fried and roasted meat, fish, seafood, vegetables and fruit, alongside hearts, brains, stomach and other innards. Try baby sparrows, scorpions, crickets and silkworm grubs. Glutinous and sticky, savory and sweet rice dishes are filling and cheap. Vegetarians can eat corn, broccoli, mushrooms and noodles. Servings are CNY2-10.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 09:02:19 PM
THUS, patterning it to the spoiler that we had last time...
Jaime and Cara were talking about a fighting third team to Margie and Luke = Tammy/Victor whom is probable to have an edge over the others because of that footage...
Margie and Luke arrives last at the airport for the final leg, does not see Tammy and Victor fight or brush off each other, while Jaime and Cara sees them though, and they tell the story to Margie and Luke. It also makes sense that they get ahead of the others at JAL and eventually landing with Phil and BVM. what happens next... you gotta watch the finale!


What did you see that I missed that makes you think T/V are fighting please? ???
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Boingo on April 26, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
(http://photo.8j.com/1/05/36/0-05120503323436372.jpg) (http://photo.8j.com/1/05/36/0-05120503323436372.jpg)

Xuanwu District, just south of Heping Gate Station, very near where the Chos got lost in TAR 10.1.



Looks like generic role makeup rather than a character makeup... The female 'dan' and the clown 'chou'!
Oh God their makeup looks ugly (by Chinese standards)... :lol:

Interesting... so they are in the Xuanwu duistrict... what a coincidence.... just happened to stumble accross the oldest Peking Opera Theater & Temple in that same area...

Zheng Yici Peking Opera Theater (http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Beijing/Landmarks-Hotspots/Xuanwu/ZhengYici_Juchang-ZhengYici_Peking_Opera_Theatre/Zheng_Yici_Opera_Temple_Report1.html)

Maybe they got their makup there as they seem to wandering the streets loking for the market nearby. 
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 09:06:06 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010.jpg)

JerseyDude's got it.

Exactly midway between Wangfujing Main St and N Heyuan Main St, along Dongan Gate Main St.

Which is also EXACTLY where the TAR1 Roadblock took place. The restaurant has since been converted into a bank, though.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 09:10:46 PM
THUS, patterning it to the spoiler that we had last time...
Jaime and Cara were talking about a fighting third team to Margie and Luke = Tammy/Victor whom is probable to have an edge over the others because of that footage...
Margie and Luke arrives last at the airport for the final leg, does not see Tammy and Victor fight or brush off each other, while Jaime and Cara sees them though, and they tell the story to Margie and Luke. It also makes sense that they get ahead of the others at JAL and eventually landing with Phil and BVM. what happens next... you gotta watch the finale!


What did you see that I missed that makes you think T/V are fighting please? ???

Basing on the previous insider videos, Tammy/Victor are fighting during pit stops, as Jaime and Cara overheard, and Tammy and Victor confirming it either... It's just a take, but since it's the last leg, everyone's paranoid about the others, so a mere talk or accent could be taken as fighting or another term too...

Seeing Jen and Kisha being too supportive of each other (LOVE THEM SO MUCH after this episode!) during this episode's detour, I just can't stand seeing them fighting anytime soon, well, we could also take into account that what the J/C and M/L are talking about in the airport would be their quarrels against Kisha and Jen...

We need Chateau for the light angles!! There's excessively too much in this preview!  :lol: Where art thou??

Speculating's getting too much fun for me Peach, I'm getting paranoid myself!  :funny: :funny: :funny: Thank God for RFF as I don't have any others to express my opinions, speculations and insights on this show here in my country...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Boingo on April 26, 2009, 09:20:23 PM
 :yess:  ...racer is on Liu Lichang West Street

Liu Lichang West Culture Street (http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Beijing/Landmarks-Hotspots/Xuanwu/Liu_Lichang_Street/Liu_Lichang_Culture_Street-MainMenu_Map_Directions.html)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: hakushu8 on April 26, 2009, 09:30:15 PM
Quote
Which is also EXACTLY where the TAR1 Roadblock took place. The restaurant has since been converted into a bank, though.
OMGah! Another homage to TAR1!

These look backs are kinda scary though... making it seem like it's the final season. Though I know it's not.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Slowhatch on April 26, 2009, 09:32:59 PM
Nice spotting, Boingo!  :wohoo: The link you provided includes photos and interactive maps (http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Beijing/MapsofBeijing/Chongwen_Xuanwu_District_Map/Beijing_Chongwen_Xuanwu_Districts_Map.html); if those two are trying to reach the food market, they went south instead of east.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
have not caught up just dropping off my YT

 << HD option
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 26, 2009, 09:45:57 PM
In the clip, when K/J are at the roadblock, I think I hear Keisha say "look, there's Luke and Margie", or something along that line. Correct me if I'm wrong hehe.

Oh and Jaime China doesn't suck! Haha, it's your attitude that sucks LOL. PLEASE Cara! Do not emulate from your "partner"!!!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Boingo on April 26, 2009, 09:48:24 PM
Nice spotting, Boingo!  :wohoo: The link you provided includes photos and interactive maps (http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/Beijing/MapsofBeijing/Chongwen_Xuanwu_District_Map/Beijing_Chongwen_Xuanwu_Districts_Map.html); if those two are trying to reach the food market, they went south instead of east.

Maybe Neobie can link this location to the Zheng Yici Peking Opera Theater somewhere nearby.   :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:54:19 PM
Nice job Boingo!  :jumpy: ..and everyone!

dropping these off, future confessionals

Tammy: Victor and I've been (visited?) Beijing for the Olympics and we've been fortunate to come to China several times, having been here before, having a geographical knowledge of the places and knowing how the streets work ... being familiar with the culture and the language here in China has given us a huge advantage.

Victor: We are not swimmers, at all! Weeks before even coming on the race she took lessons.
Tammy: I was the only person in the adult lap pool that had to learn how to put my face under water and breath out. Swimming is not my strong suit.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0069.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0092.jpg)


Jen: that was the most difficult detour that we've had and I have a  definite fear of water and I just had to push through that and Kisha knows my weakness and I'm glad she was there pushing me I'm sure a lot of other people would have let me quit like I wanted to .. luckily i had my sister there
Kisha: we chose because shes not that good of a swimmer
Jen: I'm not a good swimmer at all I just think of drowning automatically so I won't put myself in situations where I would drown
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0072.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0089.jpg)

Margie: oh my gosh we had to put on razor suits , they were so tight
Margie translating Luke: after swimming that distance I had a lot of respect for Michael Phelps .. it was very hard, I was so tired 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0079.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0091.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: eragon on April 26, 2009, 09:59:46 PM
looks like K/J were eliminated...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 10:01:42 PM
Blast from the past!

And... the big picture.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: apskip on April 26, 2009, 10:14:42 PM
Deleted because I discovered others had the same idea first.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 10:29:56 PM
Can anyone pick out what Jaime/Cara are asking for? Wencheng Ge?

There are many "ge's" (courts) on that road, but I can't find an exact match. There's a Ruicheng Zhai, Wenhui Ge and a Cuiwen Ge... Could any of them be it? (They all sell Chinese scholarly/calligraphy stuff, I think.)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
They changed the title? And finally the U-Turn rears its ugly head

No More Mr. Nice Guy (China)
This week's U-Turn isn't anonymous but that doesn't stop one team from throwing another under the bus. Racers crunch on fried scorpion among other Chinese critters. Colorful teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 11:10:14 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0079.jpg)

Sounds like the poem (http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/28vq0kz.jpg)!
The eye sees beyond a thousand miles of lakes and hills,
The individual is lost in the colour of sea and sky.


Definitely a big park or a pagoda to be able to see a thousand miles, then?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 11:12:21 PM
What about the laughing Buddha? I google and they all look the same

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0092.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
Now 2 references to Alice Cooper?  whatsupwith that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZnhuOEUFXA
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 11:27:13 PM
I'm going to post this here you could see traces of make up around Cara's lips.

Jaime views her shouting as motivation for her partner. Cara sees it differently.
 

Sisters Kisha & Jen talk about their struggles at the Detour.

 



The Amazing Race 14 - Making It Clear

 

Sibling lawyers Tammy and Victor discuss how difficult the Detour was for them
 
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Ashe on April 26, 2009, 11:28:23 PM
looks like K/J were eliminated...
Yep.  That looks like a "we just got eliminated" confessional.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 11:59:10 PM
Can anyone pick out what Jaime/Cara are asking for? Wencheng Ge?

Wenchang Ge (Court of... erm... Flourishing Literature), Summer Palace - Pit Stop?

(http://www.photophoto.cn/m8/055/004/0550040035.jpg) (http://www.photophoto.cn/m8/055/004/0550040035.jpg)

Check out the architecture of the palace buildings...

(http://image.phototime.cn/image1/middle/20004/ca/C06099667.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 12:11:34 AM
I see a lot of similarities Neobie!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 12:13:25 AM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(http://i44.[banned image hosting site].com/33a6u8o.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2009, 12:22:03 AM
This shot was taken here between 10:57 and 11:34 am (assumes November 20th).

Thanks to Neobie

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0030.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARA on April 27, 2009, 12:23:45 AM
did anyone notice J/C holding a Travelocity Gnome?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ashe on April 27, 2009, 12:26:56 AM
did anyone notice J/C holding a Travelocity Gnome?
I did.  Could they be heading for the Pit Stop with it?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 01:04:33 AM
Usually the gnome is taken to the pit stop. In past years, one gnome had something on the bottom that signified a prize, but with budget cuts all around, I'm not sure if we get one this season.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2009, 01:09:48 AM
This shot was taken here between 10:34 and 10:53 am (assumes November 20th).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010.jpg)

Thanks to Neobie
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 27, 2009, 02:09:47 AM
looks like K/J were eliminated...
Yep.  That looks like a "we just got eliminated" confessional.

Tammy and Victor's confessional (spotlight on Tammy) looks so happy to me... If they got eliminated, at least we'd see their faces looking like in their confessions in Romania...

Oh yeah, Chateau, could you also comment on the times Tammy/Victor and Kisha and Jen were doing the roadblock?? Thanks so much for looking into this leg!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on April 27, 2009, 02:12:36 AM
Yay Chateau and Puddin!

Cara's wearing the part for an imperial scholar!

(http://img01.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i1/T1DINbXi0fgcDyk9I8_101612.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0030.jpg)

Which is why the man on the bike says...
"Oh, they passed the imperial examinations!"
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 02:22:13 AM
Good stuff Neobie and always great to have Chateau in the house  :jumpy:! Thank you!


Tammy and Victor's confessional (spotlight on Tammy) looks so happy to me... If they got eliminated, at least we'd see their faces looking like in their confessions in Romania...


Tammys conf does not sound like losers to me...

Quote
Tammy: Victor and I've been (visited?) Beijing for the Olympics and we've been fortunate to come to China several times, having been here before, having a geographical knowledge of the places and knowing how the streets work ... being familiar with the culture and the language here in China has given us a huge advantage.

eta: Neobie I think your Wenchang tower is good but wish we could find those stones/carvings in the other confessionals . Too tired to search Yiheyuan anymore tonight though.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on April 27, 2009, 02:34:22 AM
So we have a Detour involving Peking Opera (since Tammy/Victor avoided it),
followed by a food-eating Roadblock,
followed by Jaime/Cara running around Liuli Chang Rd looking for Wenchang Ge (Pit Stop)?

Do you think there's still another task at Liuli Chang Rd, or...
given all the other "ge's" that sound similar (short list upthread),
did their driver send them there by mistake?

(White makeup does not look good on LaKisha.)



Since Tammy/Victor are clean, I guess were spared a U-Turn!

The light's clearly shining from the east (look at the long reflection of the cluebox!) when they're eating, while Margie/Luke's shadows are more southeast-ish? Am I right?

And remembering the Tokyo spoiler, they either won the leg, or they were eliminated. We just need to pick a side.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ashe on April 27, 2009, 02:35:41 AM

Tammy and Victor's confessional (spotlight on Tammy) looks so happy to me... If they got eliminated, at least we'd see their faces looking like in their confessions in Romania...


Tammys conf does not sound like losers to me...
There's always the chance they could have lost, though.  Tammy (and Victor, to a much, much lesser extent) is generally a smiler.  So she could be acting very gracious in defeat.  Or they could've squeaked by and made the F3 and are happy for the chance at the million dollars.  Either case, she'd be smiling.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 27, 2009, 02:37:54 AM

Tammy and Victor's confessional (spotlight on Tammy) looks so happy to me... If they got eliminated, at least we'd see their faces looking like in their confessions in Romania...


Tammys conf does not sound like losers to me...


I have to agree with that, It seems too like they're so happy, I speculate that they even won the leg... :hearts: :jumpy: :wohoo: :yess: And their confessionals show it too... (I quoted the wrong posts earlier!  :funny: :funny:)

I wonder too why Jaime and Cara and Kisha and Jen's confessionals seem to be significantly later and gloomier (based on what you've posted) than Tammy/Victor's or Luke and Margie's... does it mean that one of them might be the U-Turned team? Just speculating again...

Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 27, 2009, 02:42:19 AM
There's always the chance they could have lost, though.  Tammy (and Victor, to a much, much lesser extent) is generally a smiler.  So she could be acting very gracious in defeat.  Or they could've squeaked by and made the F3 and are happy for the chance at the million dollars.  Either case, she'd be smiling.

I don't think this team will be acting very gracious in defeat ESPECIALLY their parents would cry themselves to death, and embarrassing their Chinese heritage, their geographical knowledge and the whole of the Chinese population themselves... as they have been mentioning the past two episodes... :funny: :funny:

Just imagine it, similar to a court case, with them being great lawyers and lose to a case by novices...

If I were them, I wouldn't forgive myself if I lose in China too... it really would be an embarrassment
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: ready2rock on April 27, 2009, 03:02:21 AM
Okay i have one question...why is the background in confessional video of m/l different from t/v and k/j??? :spy: and yeah i too agree with most of u that the team keep the dream alive's dream is gonna end next week atleast the confessional videos point out the same  :(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 03:05:33 AM
I know this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/natsuki_and_shinji/108778636/sizes/o/) is not the same but couldn't help noticing the stones in the background.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_108778636_fefb09b610_o.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/108778636_fefb09b610_o.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0095.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0095.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0092.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0092.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0072.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0072.jpg)

eta another stone  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 27, 2009, 03:25:43 AM
One of the CBS clues says teams wandered around looking for the U-Turn..
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 27, 2009, 03:32:39 AM
One of the CBS clues says teams wandered around looking for the U-Turn..
And the teams were colorful too... It means J/C, M/L and K/J are the only teams who wandered around for the U-TURN itself...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jerseydude on April 27, 2009, 03:33:57 AM
Did you notice that where K/J were doing the roadblock, they wore two different outfits and so did J/C and M/L. So do these two different outfits stand for two different characters??
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: eragon on April 27, 2009, 03:43:43 AM
One of the CBS clues says teams wandered around looking for the U-Turn..
And the teams were colorful too... It means J/C, M/L and K/J are the only teams who wandered around for the U-TURN itself...

I don't think there will be a U-Turn this leg...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 27, 2009, 03:51:20 AM
One of the CBS clues says teams wandered around looking for the U-Turn..
And the teams were colorful too... It means J/C, M/L and K/J are the only teams who wandered around for the U-TURN itself...

I don't think there will be a U-Turn this leg...

There will be. CBS webclues show that the U-Turn rears its ugly head next week.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jerseydude on April 27, 2009, 06:27:39 AM
I don't think the Wenchang Ge or the Summer palace is the pitstop for some reasons. First of all, the summer palace is North West from TiananMen Square is is close by to the road block, unless either (A) There is another task before the pitstop or (B) Jamie and Cara are COMPLETELY going the wrong way it isn't it. Second of all, If you look closely at the background of Margie and Luke's Personal Interview, you will see 4 chinese character. I read Chinese and it doesn't fit with any of the pictures of Wenchang Ge that was given. The characters are (if your computer can't read chinese then the following will come up as boxes) 天一色中, which could be roughly translated to "Sky One color middle (i know it doesn't make sense because it is that last part of the "saying")." So do we have the right Pitstop because many Chinese gardens look like that?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Chateau d If on April 27, 2009, 10:07:07 AM

Oh yeah, Chateau, could you also comment on the times Tammy/Victor and Kisha and Jen were doing the roadblock?? Thanks so much for looking into this leg!


Show me the shots.  I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2009, 11:10:41 AM
Chateau!!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Coutzy on April 27, 2009, 12:39:18 PM
I'm a bit confused here as to why people are writing off Kisha and Jen so early, based off there confessionals.

Feel free to correct me here, but how do we know those confessionals aren't from some sort of leveller that we see in the next episode?

(If you look at the TBC legs, most of them have some sort of equalizer that also functions to give the teams a break.)

And I'd be very mistaken if I didn't think that there are lots of places that have rocks.

Feel free to explain exactly why I'm wrong.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 01:58:31 PM
I think puddin posted this earlier, but if you need to see it again...

Next week's description from CBS:

Quote
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MAY 3, ON CBS

"He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper" (China) - The Racers must eat fried scorpions at a Roadblock, but even the distaste of a scorpion pales in comparison to the cutthroat behavior of a Team that publicly throws another under a bus with a U-Turn, on THE AMAZING RACE 14, Sunday, May 3 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.

If this was posted earlier, I apologize. I didn't see it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 02:01:49 PM
Actually I was just about to post it Ken! Thank you  :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 02:03:37 PM
Actually I was just about to post it Ken! Thank you  :kuss:
No. Thank YOU! Gotta love the CBS Pres***press website. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
They don't give out future photos like they use to though *sigh* ^^^
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 02:10:48 PM
Budget cuts.  (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Dånooky on April 27, 2009, 02:33:25 PM
Budget cuts.  (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;) :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles:
either that or "Spoiler Prevention level up!"
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 27, 2009, 03:28:13 PM
If you notice carefully in the confessional video, there is a scroll attached to the rock in the background. It has 4 Chinese characters on it. I can't make out what it is.

Oh! :) Furthermore, (I'm just speculating here), could the make ups be part of the detour (since Tammy and Victor do not have them as compared to the rest of the racers) and the eating roadblock challenge comes thereafter? That means the U-Turn has to be in between the detour and the roadblock. What do you think?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 04:13:47 PM
If Cara is holding the U-Turn clue are they U-Turned!?

And it goes with the clue!!
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 27, 2009, 04:19:08 PM
Maybe that's why they are so angry: they have to do another task. (Just a speculation, though)

And, OMG I have a feeling that they are U-turned by Tammy and Victor.  "This week's U-Turn isn't anonymous but that doesn't stop one team from throwing another under the bus." (To throw someone under the bus usually means 'to betray them'.)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 04:30:52 PM
Can anyone pick out what Jaime/Cara are asking for? Wencheng Ge?

There are many "ge's" (courts) on that road, but I can't find an exact match. There's a Ruicheng Zhai, Wenhui Ge and a Cuiwen Ge... Could any of them be it? (They all sell Chinese scholarly/calligraphy stuff, I think.)
So whatever they are looking for might be the other detour option, thats if they are U-Turned.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 04:31:36 PM
If Cara is holding the U-Turn clue are they U-Turned!?

And it goes with the clue!!
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-1.jpg)
Either Tammy & Victor ... no, it's Tammy & Victor. Kisha/Jen and Margie/Luke would U-Turn each other. And M/L can't use it again anyway. So, it's most likely T/V.

Maybe it's Jaime/Cara who are eliminated at the end of this leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: nathyn on April 27, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
And, OMG I have a feeling that they are U-turned by Tammy and Victor.  "This week's U-Turn isn't anonymous but that doesn't stop one team from throwing another under the bus." (To throw someone under the bus usually means 'to betray them'.)

Which, actually brings up an interesting question. Are we sure that the 1 U-turn per team rule is in effect? I don't remember Phil saying that a team may only use the U-turn once in a race during the blind U-turn. Although I'd think that L/M would use it on J/K if they could and that J/K would use it on L/M, is it possible that L/M use it on J/C, b/c L/M know that J/C are right behind them?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 04:36:11 PM
Only can use the U-Turn once.

But if you want to look further into CBS' description, perhaps the throwing under the bus means M/L used it on Jaime/Cara. In an insider clip this week, Cara says she and Jaime would have a tough time U-Turning M/L because they've become good friends with them. Is that foreshadowing to the program description? Does the Blind U-Turn throw out the U-Turn rules? That would make for some interesting TV if M/L got to use the U-Turn again.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 27, 2009, 04:36:26 PM
Which, actually brings up an interesting question. Are we sure that the 1 U-turn per team rule is in effect? I don't remember Phil saying that a team may only use the U-turn once in a race during the blind U-turn. Although I'd think that L/M would use it on J/K if they could and that J/K would use it on L/M, is it possible that L/M use it on J/C, b/c L/M know that J/C are right behind them?

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT! Maybe Luke and Margie u-turned their "friends". It would have sucked though! However, I do think V/T are likely to U-turn J/C: look what happened after the roadblock, at the curb, in the previous leg when Jaime nearly got into a petty argument with Tammy.

Karma...

Also, I think a "blind U-turn" is not exactly considered a "U-turn".
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 04:40:25 PM
Phil said: this is the first of only 2 U-Turns found along the race course blah blah teams can use the power of the U-turn to slow down another team forcing them to back track yadda yadda .. but in a new twist this is whats known as a blind u-turn. Previously when teams forced another team to u-turn they had to post their own picture and be known as the perpetrators. Now they can remain anonymous.

(from EP4)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 04:42:11 PM
Only can use the U-Turn once.

But if you want to look further into CBS' description, perhaps the throwing under the bus means M/L used it on Jaime/Cara. In an insider clip this week, Cara says she and Jaime would have a tough time U-Turning M/L because they've become good friends with them. Is that foreshadowing to the program description? Does the Blind U-Turn throw out the U-Turn rules? That would make for some interesting TV if M/L got to use the U-Turn again.
Here's that clip I was talking about:



Keep what Cara said in the back of your mind. Unless Phil says M/L cannot use the U-Turn again, then everything is in play.

Maybe when Margie/Luke hit the U-Turn, Kisha/Jen are already ahead of them and to save themselves from elimination, M/L make the hard decision to U-Turn the reds.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 27, 2009, 04:46:09 PM
I think that video was taken in Guilin, not Beijing. Hmmm... Beijing is a metropolis, not a rural area. Correct me if I'm wrong. Or maybe it was taken at Beijing in the morning?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 04:47:15 PM
It was, but Cara & Jaime are not going to change their mind about Luke/Margie until they see the U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 04:49:02 PM
I think there is no way in hell that M/L could/would U-Turn Cara and Jamie. If anyone would I could see Tammy and Victor U-Turning them after the cab incident last night. T/V helped C/J by telling the driver where to go then it appeared Tammy tried to grab that driver and then Jamie snapped back "not gonna happen sister" ..then the comments by T/V in their cab how they helped them etc. Victor was a little annoyed that they were stiffed by C/J after telling  the driver where to go and Tammy comments that she does into a fight with Jamie that she scares her.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 27, 2009, 04:50:56 PM
Maybe (just a speculation) that's why T/V are so far ahead in the Tokyo airport. They are too embarrassed to face C/J, assuming that C/J make it to the final three with T/V. However, at the moment, I don't think I'm going to trust the spoiler too much yet ;)

Haha, and no more mr. Nice guy could be:
1) A song by Alice Cooper
2) Victor saying that he isn't going to be "nice" to J/C anymore. Maybe he is the one who decides to u-turn them. (Then again, this is ALL speculation)
3) Or it could be Luke ditching his friends J/C.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2009, 05:09:23 PM
Maybe (just a speculation) that's why T/V are so far ahead in the Tokyo airport.

???  V/T, C/J. and M/L are all seen in the Tokyo airport by the source within a very small window of time. There is no evidence that I am aware of that suggests T/V are "so far ahead".

Here's a question:
 
Where does the U-Turn clue come from? Is it at the board where your pic is plastered?

Or does everyone have a clue in their packet for "just in case"??

In other words, if you are holding a U-Turn clue, are we SURE that makes you the one U-Turned??
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Dånooky on April 27, 2009, 05:10:37 PM
Maybe that's why they are so angry: they have to do another task. (Just a speculation, though)

And, OMG I have a feeling that they are U-turned by Tammy and Victor.  "This week's U-Turn isn't anonymous but that doesn't stop one team from throwing another under the bus." (To throw someone under the bus usually means 'to betray them'.)
why do I feel that the bus part should be interpreted literally?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 27, 2009, 05:15:58 PM

Where does the U-Turn clue come from? Is it at the board where your pic is plastered?

In other words, if you are holding a U-Turn clue, are we SURE that makes you the one U-Turned??

Yeah, you're right. But it was all speculation. Furthermore, like I said earlier, the U-turn has to be in between the detour and the roadblock, and somehow, I have the feeling that the detour comes before the roadblock. (Tammy and Victor do not have make ups on as compared to the rest of the teams).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 05:21:07 PM

Where does the U-Turn clue come from? Is it at the board where your pic is plastered?

In other words, if you are holding a U-Turn clue, are we SURE that makes you the one U-Turned??

Yeah, you're right. But it was all speculation. Furthermore, like I said earlier, the U-turn has to be in between the detour and the roadblock, and somehow, I have the feeling that the detour comes before the roadblock. (Tammy and Victor do not have make ups on as compared to the rest of the teams).
Please stop it jovian and do your homework so that we don't have to do it for you :angel: think before you write, read the threads, make every post count. MAYBE TAMMY AND VICTOR CHOSE THE OTHER DETOUR OPTION AND THAT IS WHY THEY DO NOT WEAR MAKE UP AND THE OTHER TEAMS DO .........AT THE ROADBLOCK! It's already been noted!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jovian_w2002 on April 27, 2009, 05:25:02 PM
Sorry, that was what I meant. They didn't have to wear make up because they were at another detour task. Ok, sorry..
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Hooky on April 27, 2009, 05:56:17 PM
What if Kisha & Jen U-turn Jaime & Cara but then end up last anyway? Just an idea. But I'm definitely going with Jaime & Cara or Kisha & Jen being U-turned.

This is not turning out the way I hoped. It's turning into the worst possible outcome just like every season I watched when it first aired. (:;)

Jaime & Cara must win if Kisha & Jen get eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: kwando1313 on April 27, 2009, 06:20:53 PM
I don't know why, but my gut says that J/C don't get eliminated because of the fact that CBS said that "they were fighting for a spot in the final three". It would sorta be anti-climatic if they got eliminated. And sorta lame. Also, what happened in those long hours from about 11 PM (well after J/C arrived at the "Halfway Point") to this episode. It's been about 12 hours and they don't really need to fly anywhere this leg. So what happened in these missing hours? Could it be a bunching point? Somewhere with Hours of Operations? (That's my 2 cents)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Belle Book on April 27, 2009, 06:59:21 PM
Right now, it seems like Tammy & Victor will survive and LaKisha & Jen will be Philiminated (which I wouldn't mind too much).  But I still think it's possible that Tammy & Victor are Philiminated instead.  We'll just have to wait and see.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: slayton on April 27, 2009, 07:14:09 PM
Just based on the previews, if one detour is called "Peking/Beijing Opera," then I'm going to guess that the other just might be "Peking/Beijing Duck."

If it really is "Peking/Beijing Duck," then I'm thinking that teams might have to deliver ducks or something to a restaurant where the address is written only in Chinese characters.  (Since the Roadblock is an eating challenge, I doubt that the other detour would also be an eating challenge.)

Opera seems to be the safe, but slow option, while the other one is likely to be the difficult but potentially faster option.

If this turns out to be the case, then it's obvious why Tammy & Victor--who seem to have no opera make-up on--would choose a detour that would allow them to use their Chinese-language skills, while the other teams all decided to do "Peking/Beijing Opera."
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on April 27, 2009, 07:23:36 PM
I think puddin posted this earlier, but if you need to see it again...

Next week's description from CBS:

Quote
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MAY 3, ON CBS

"He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper" (China) - The Racers must eat fried scorpions at a Roadblock, but even the distaste of a scorpion pales in comparison to the cutthroat behavior of a Team that publicly throws another under a bus with a U-Turn, on THE AMAZING RACE 14, Sunday, May 3 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.

If this was posted earlier, I apologize. I didn't see it.


After last nights episode, while we don't know the order that the remaining 3 times arrive at the pit stop, my SPECULATION is that they will arrive in the order that they finished the detour.  That said, it makes sense to me that Tammy & Victor could possibly u-turn Kisha & Jen.  T/V most likely choose a different detour than the others (no make-up).  They could finish the task quicker than the other 3 (specualted my many posters here that T/V seem to be ahead at roadblock).  They could assume since they started in 3rd, that there is a good chance the only team behind them is J/K, so that is who they U-turn.  HENCE, the throwing someone under the bus, since T/V and K/J are on relatively good terms still.
Just MHO, and speculation only.
                                                 :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Belle Book on April 27, 2009, 07:33:05 PM
You might have something there, Littlewop.  Perhaps Tammy & Victor U-Turn LaKisha & Jen in an attempt to survive that might prove unnecessary.  We just don't know.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Mister RC on April 27, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
Whatever happens with the U-Turn is fine I guess.  Just as long as Tammy/Victor don't fall into 4th.  The fate of the big day the following week depends on their survival!  Apart from that, as mentioned, it would be pretty embarrassing for them to finish 4th here.  Although IMO it wouldn't be the end of the world.  The runners-up in TAR's 1, 2, and 5 didn't win when they had the "home city advantage".

Back to the U-Turn: It's pretty new, but I often wondered if, say, a team got a read on the competition, and following that, they felt that they were about to be U-Turned.  Unless it's against the rules, I would take a chance and do the other detour immediately.  The U-Turning team wouldn't know what hit them when they lose the leg by seconds (when they thought they had a nice advantage against the U-Turned team).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 07:49:51 PM
Phil's blog:

Margie-Luke vs. Kisha-Jen continues to fester.  They aren't putting aside their differences, which could definitely come into play as they head into the final two legs.  As we've seen in all the seasons, it's essential to try and ignore personal feelings when you get to this point in the race. If you don't, you'll definitely lose focus and make mistakes.

With two all female teams heading into the final two legs, do you think we could finally - after 14 seasons - have an all girl team win the Race?

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/04/phil-keoghan--1.html
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 08:08:20 PM
I'm a bit confused here as to why people are writing off Kisha and Jen so early, based off there confessionals.

Feel free to correct me here, but how do we know those confessionals aren't from some sort of leveller that we see in the next episode?

(If you look at the TBC legs, most of them have some sort of equalizer that also functions to give the teams a break.)

And I'd be very mistaken if I didn't think that there are lots of places that have rocks.

Feel free to explain exactly why I'm wrong.
Thats what we are trying to figure out Coutzy as well as find the confessional place which you are all welcomed to help find.

Red smudge? traces of red makeup? does Cara have a moustache? ( not really, sorry Cara!)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor16/rff-0027-6.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor16/th_rff-0026-7.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor16/rff-0026-7.jpg)


and on the U-Turn from wiki:
Season 14 introduced a new variation of the U-Turn called a "Blind U-Turn" which eliminates the "Courtesy Of" photo, effectively hiding the identity of the team that issued the U-Turn. Teams are still only allowed to use the U-Turn power once during the race.

......................................
I'm still looking thru past episodes for a yellow U-Turn clue if anyone wants to help please do.


Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: BayBay on April 27, 2009, 08:16:59 PM
My speculation:
 
 - Detour: Make-up (Alice Copper task) or Make-down???
 - U-turn: T/V on C/J or K/J
 - Roadblock: Eating Chinese delicacy

I don't think they would have the detour after the roadblock in this crucial leg
if there is going to be a u-turn.

Whoever u-turn's may get some bad karma...like BJ and Tyler or Dustin and Kandice (TWICE).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on April 27, 2009, 08:39:25 PM
My speculation:
 
 - Detour: Make-up (Alice Copper task) or Make-down???
 - U-turn: T/V on C/J or K/J
 - Roadblock: Eating Chinese delicacy

I don't think they would have the detour after the roadblock in this crucial leg
if there is going to be a u-turn.

Whoever u-turn's may get some bad karma...like BJ and Tyler or Dustin and Kandice (TWICE).

I think your take on the detour and u-turn sound good. 
Make down... something involving ducks maybe?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 27, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
To follow up on Pudden's comment. I see red/pink smudge on her shirt too.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor16/rff-0026-7.jpg)

Is there any possibility that the sighting of Tammy and Victor where just them, eliminated, headed to the finish line with Phil?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 27, 2009, 09:20:41 PM
Just to clear up some misconception about TAR 5. All the final 3 teams were from Texas. So they all had "home state advantage'" if you want to call it that. None of them were from the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Chip/Kym were raised, went to school, got married and lived in Houston (4 hour drive to DFW), till their late 30's, when they moved to California. Chip has said they only lived in Ca for 5-6 years. They were 45 approx when they won TAR5. So actually, they had more of a home field advantage than Colin/Christie, since Houston is closer to Dallas then Corpus Christi (6.5/7 hour drive to DFW). Brandon and Nicole were both from the Houston area also.

 
The runners-up in TAR's 1, 2, and 5 didn't win when they had the "home city advantage".

Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Mister RC on April 27, 2009, 09:45:20 PM
Good to know, thanks.  The many mentions, however, in terms of this was based upon the racers current locations.  But it's not a big deal anyway.  Regardless, it would suck, IMO, if T/V came in last in this part of the race, since they're pretty familiar with the area.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 27, 2009, 09:57:41 PM
I added the Brandon/Nicole info (above) since you posted, I agree with you, btw, it means nothing. I just see it used to much by people saying there is some statistical value for it. All people know mostly is the biographical date that CBS puts up for the race. The first time I heard Chip talk, I knew he was from Texas.....SE Texas to be more exact....lol
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11: 'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'
Post by: Moo on April 27, 2009, 10:53:26 PM

Oh yeah, Chateau, could you also comment on the times Tammy/Victor and Kisha and Jen were doing the roadblock?? Thanks so much for looking into this leg!


Show me the shots.  I'll see what I can do.

Hi Chateau, the pictures are in the first two pages I think... we can see Victor eating during the roadblock, while Tammy's watching them, the street has no cars, and the atmosphere looks like it's the break of dawn...

Kisha and Jen looks like in midday... Kisha having a white face, while Jen is eating...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 27, 2009, 11:14:44 PM

and on the U-Turn from wiki:
Season 14 introduced a new variation of the U-Turn called a "Blind U-Turn" which eliminates the "Courtesy Of" photo, effectively hiding the identity of the team that issued the U-Turn. Teams are still only allowed to use the U-Turn power once during the race.

......................................
I'm still looking thru past episodes for a yellow U-Turn clue if anyone wants to help please do.


puddin, I have viewed the U-TURN screens, but we can't see one, the other time we saw a U-TURN from the previous seasons, was Lorena and Jason's in S12, as S13 did not have a usage at all... I did not see anything at all...

This season, Margie and Luke u-turning Amanda and Kris, I didn't see anything at all either from Amanda and Kris, after they said... "shady, shady..." they went back to the stack detour...

I'm having hints and speculations that this U-TURN might have a different mechanics... (like another task instead of another detour... but that would look like a speed bump more...) I'm confused...

About Cara's confessional, it seems that all of their confessionals look like at the REAL pit stop itself too... Cara's shirt have red smudges, and they for one look so stressed out as well. Her face also looks whiter than usual, I just don't know with the lighting...

----
@ littlewop, your speculation makes sense, as Victor and Tammy and Kisha and Jen are in good terms... but we'll just find out soon enough...

@ Neobie, could there be any place like a nearby 4 - 5 star known brand or branch of hotel/s near the proposed pit stop (Wenchang Ge/ Summer Palace???) that could serve us a production base (Like Sheraton in Guilin?), further intensifying out that the summer palace is indeed the pit stop?




Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DavidJunior on April 27, 2009, 11:41:57 PM
Just based on the previews, if one detour is called "Peking/Beijing Opera," then I'm going to guess that the other just might be "Peking/Beijing Duck."

If it really is "Peking/Beijing Duck," then I'm thinking that teams might have to deliver ducks or something to a restaurant where the address is written only in Chinese characters.  (Since the Roadblock is an eating challenge, I doubt that the other detour would also be an eating challenge.)

Opera seems to be the safe, but slow option, while the other one is likely to be the difficult but potentially faster option.

If this turns out to be the case, then it's obvious why Tammy & Victor--who seem to have no opera make-up on--would choose a detour that would allow them to use their Chinese-language skills, while the other teams all decided to do "Peking/Beijing Opera."

if the other detour does happen to be peking duck, could that be what cara/jaime are looking for in the promo?

which would mean that they are, in fact, the team that is u-turned.

they do the easier peking opera task first, get u-turned and have to go and do the peking duck task and get lost

which to me, doesn't look so hot for jaime/cara
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 27, 2009, 11:45:35 PM
I'll add this past insider clip as a fwiw

Anticipating a U-turn soon, the sibling lawyers discuss who they would use it on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxkrQqauvwc&feature=fvsr
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 11:49:16 PM
Plus don't forget in last night's episode, Tammy mentioned she's scared of Jaime. Who wouldn't be?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Andrew on April 28, 2009, 12:07:43 AM
I think that the clue of U-turn on Cara's hand might be the picture of "courtesy of" that they have to put on the U-turn.
I remember when Oswald and Danny Yield Danielle and Eric They had an envelod that said Yield that contain their "courtesy of" picture
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: BayBay on April 28, 2009, 12:14:11 AM
If Cara is holding the U-Turn clue are they U-Turned!?

And it goes with the clue!!
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-1.jpg)
Either Tammy & Victor ... no, it's Tammy & Victor. Kisha/Jen and Margie/Luke would U-Turn each other. And M/L can't use it again anyway. So, it's most likely T/V.

Maybe it's Jaime/Cara who are eliminated at the end of this leg.

I've looked through past episodes with u-turns and can't seem to locate a u-turn clue. I have two theories:

1. It contains there "courtesy of" picture, they get pre-race.
2. The U-turn forces the other team member to complete the roadblock, so they get these instructions to do so.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Andrew on April 28, 2009, 12:14:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ePhxzNXd0k&feature=PlayList&p=B3DD9FA47CAA8500&index=0&playnext=1

this is the link to the video at the 3:43 oswald put away a envelop of a yield
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 12:16:29 AM
They have to carry those courtesy of pictures with them at all times right? One season a team lost theirs and couldn't Yield another team if I'm recalling it right.

And thanks Mooyou, I guess that yellow U-Turn clue is something we never thought to ask the racers about. Could be that Cara and Jamie are just looking for the U-Turn box to U-Turn another team and did a Lazurus.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: michael on April 28, 2009, 12:17:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ePhxzNXd0k&feature=PlayList&p=B3DD9FA47CAA8500&index=0&playnext=1

this is the link to the video at the 3:43 oswald put away a envelop of a yield

hehe...you linked my video :)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Andrew on April 28, 2009, 12:20:13 AM
yes they have to carry the picture

the team that loose it was MoJo when Bj-Tyler yield them
also the bowling moms
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 28, 2009, 12:24:04 AM
They have to carry those courtesy of pictures with them at all times right? One season a team lost theirs and couldn't Yield another team if I'm recalling it right.

And thanks Mooyou, I guess that yellow U-Turn clue is something we never thought to ask the racers about. Could be that Cara and Jamie are just looking for the U-Turn box to U-Turn another team and did a Lazurus.

You're most welcome puddin!  :hearts: :hearts:

just another example of teams bringing all their courtesy pictures, If I could recall in TARA3 (just a reference though) Ida and Tania were supposed to U-TURN Geoff and Tisha, but lost their courtesy of photos, thus could not U-turn at all...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: :jerry: on April 28, 2009, 12:45:17 AM
WAIT!If u take the preview literally--UNDER THE BUS...could it be teams get thrown under buses for some reason???
like fixing it, or find a clue somewhere under the bus...of course this is a speculation......

and i think i spot a cluebox on the left of the screen where vic was(sitting) eating the delicacies, and tammy was standing on the left??
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 28, 2009, 01:19:33 AM
WAIT!If u take the preview literally--UNDER THE BUS...could it be teams get thrown under buses for some reason???
like fixing it, or find a clue somewhere under the bus...of course this is a speculation......

and i think i spot a cluebox on the left of the screen where vic was(sitting) eating the delicacies, and tammy was standing on the left??

jerry, I think that cluebox is the one that tells them that they have to eat the Chinese food. It's the Roadblock cluebox.

So maybe this year, we had one "Blind" U-turn and one "Regular" U-turn. After finishing the detour, teams have to find the U-turn sign to get their next clue, whether they U-turn anyone or not. The CBS clues say that "teams" wander far away from this sign, when they were right near it. This might explain why T/V got so far ahead at the roadblock. They finished the "other" detour and didnt U-turn anyone and headed for the roadblock. M/L couldn't U-turn anyone, so they went to the roadblock too. That leaves K/J and J/C wandering around looking for the U-turn sign for a long time, whether they were going to U-turn anyone. They have to go there to get a route marker to tell them where to go next, which is probably the cluebox at the roadblock location.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: BayBay on April 28, 2009, 01:43:22 AM
So we've determined that the "u-turn clue" possibly contains the "courtesy of" picture.
If this is true we can assume that C/J have the intention of u-turning out of desperation.
It is highly unlikely that they would u-turn M/L so it is either K/J or T/V unless they have
been u-turned themselves.

However it is said that M/L and C/J were seen racing in Hawaii alongside each other.

Taking all this into consideration you could say that we will presumably say bye bye to
T/V or K/J.

M/L FOR THE WIN! C/J AS RUNNERS-UP!!
I HOPE K/J GET PHILIMINATED!! They don't deserve to win!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 28, 2009, 01:48:13 AM


However it is said that M/L and C/J were seen racing in Hawaii alongside each other.



Where specificly, is that "said"?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on April 28, 2009, 02:09:28 AM
@ Neobie, could there be any place like a nearby 4 - 5 star known brand or branch of hotel/s near the proposed pit stop (Wenchang Ge/ Summer Palace???) that could serve us a production base (Like Sheraton in Guilin?), further intensifying out that the summer palace is indeed the pit stop?

According to my street directory, no. (Why the heck do I have a Beijing street directory?) :duno: The Summer Palace's out of town and no international chains site their hotel there...

I'm not ready to bet on the Summer Palace just yet - there are still a few discrepancies between the vidcaps and the architecture there. First, most antithetical couplets are framed in gold at the Palace, but not in our vidcaps. Second, there's a round door in our vidcaps, and I haven't seen any similar ones at the Palace.

The couplet's not leading us anywhere on Google! *disappointed*

Chateau, are you getting a really early time? Because this looks before 9.30am to me!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0007.jpg)

Is this chain of conclusions valid?

1. According to the Tokyo spoiler, Tammy/Victor are either first or last in Beijing.
2. There is no Fast Forward on this leg.
3. Peking Opera comes before the eating, which is a Roadblock.
4. Because Tammy/Victor are clean, the Opera is a Detour, and Tammy/Victor were not U-Turned.
5. Victor is quite ahead of Margie near the end of the leg, and has no apparent problems with the food.

Also,
6. Phil did not take the 3.30pm flight to Tokyo to get into Hawaii a day ahead.
7. If Phil eliminates the last team before 12.30pm, he has 3 hours to get that important flight.
8. Will Victor take 3h to eat a starfish, having already passed the Detour and the U-Turn?

So, the question is: are Tammy and Victor first or last? Make a pick! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 28, 2009, 03:39:23 AM

I'm not ready to bet on the Summer Palace just yet - there are still a few discrepancies between the vidcaps and the architecture there. First, most antithetical couplets are framed in gold at the Palace, but not in our vidcaps. Second, there's a round door in our vidcaps, and I haven't seen any similar ones at the Palace.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0007.jpg)

Is this chain of conclusions valid?

1. According to the Tokyo spoiler, Tammy/Victor are either first or last in Beijing.
4. Because Tammy/Victor are clean, the Opera is a Detour, and Tammy/Victor were not U-Turned.

Also,
8. Will Victor take 3h to eat a starfish, having already passed the Detour and the U-Turn?

So, the question is: are Tammy and Victor first or last? Make a pick! :tup:

Thanks Neobie! I must say that the image showing Tammy and Victor (Victor eating starfish) seems early to me too, with Margie and Luke's and Kisha and Jen's around midday or before lunchtime...

And I don't think Victor will take 3 hours to eat a starfish though... to quote Vince and Sam in TARA (again for reference) " "We're Chinese, we eat ANYTHING..."  :funny: :lol: Well, for a fact that Chinese people are adventurous eaters (WE SHOULD know...) I don't think they'll have a hard time eating such stuff, especially Victor.

I say Victor and Tammy gets FIRST in Beijing... TAR keeps on reiterating that it will be a shame for them to lose in Beijing well, that's been done the past two episodes, time to turn back the tables!


OH YEAH... SPECULATION... Wouldn't it be logical to say that they're actually first at the RB? I just thought that why'd they seat or eat nearest to the cluebox from the far left?? They sat on the first seats or the stall closest to the RB clue. Any racer would do that if they're first in line + the daylight shows us that it seems to be early too...

ML and KJ seems to be eating at the covered area of the stall... maybe because it's hot as the sun is shining? Remember Margie's mishap at Wat Thep Nimit?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jerseydude on April 28, 2009, 03:53:49 AM

@ Neobie, could there be any place like a nearby 4 - 5 star known brand or branch of hotel/s near the proposed pit stop (Wenchang Ge/ Summer Palace???) that could serve us a production base (Like Sheraton in Guilin?), further intensifying out that the summer palace is indeed the pit stop?


Yes, there is a Sheraton Hotel in Beijing (5 star) and it is 4 km away from the Summer Palace which holds the Wenchang Ge. So is it the pitstop??
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 28, 2009, 03:57:48 AM

@ Neobie, could there be any place like a nearby 4 - 5 star known brand or branch of hotel/s near the proposed pit stop (Wenchang Ge/ Summer Palace???) that could serve us a production base (Like Sheraton in Guilin?), further intensifying out that the summer palace is indeed the pit stop?


Yes, there is a Sheraton Hotel in Beijing (5 star) and it is 4 km away from the Summer Palace which holds the Wenchang Ge. So is it the pitstop??

Really, then Wenchang Ge Summer Palace might be the pitstop then... And wouldn't it be a packaged deal if they even place another production base at Sheraton??? Coincidence???

But I'm wondering... wouldn't the Summer Palace be such a huge complex to field a pitstop - but still... This scavenger hunt for the pitstop made me so much more eager to go to Beijing... :( The Summer Palace looks so nice...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 28, 2009, 04:17:26 AM
Just a speculation again...

Could the pitstop be at Beihai Park instead of the Summer Palace???

Just the links I saw, They have a similar color pattern...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/patrickdormischian/2768264435/in/photostream/

http://www.beihaipark.com.cn/en/scene/north-3.htm
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on April 28, 2009, 04:28:01 AM
Found the U-Turn clue!

Shana/Jennifer U-Turning TK/Rachel Lorena/Jason. (Oh God, I had to look up the winners' names.)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 28, 2009, 04:29:48 AM
Great find Neobie!

Why didn't I get to see that??? Well, it was rather hidden and looked like a detour...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 28, 2009, 04:34:32 AM
HEY GUYS... Check this one out...
http://www.beihaipark.com.cn/en/scene/north-4.htm

(http://i39.[banned image hosting site].com/2yxll4m.jpg)

There seems to be something called "rockeries" at Beihai Park...

(http://i42.[banned image hosting site].com/ny7dza.jpg)

or this one...

http://www.beihaipark.com.cn/en/scene/north-5.htm

There are rocks with intricate patterns... I couldn't find the Buddha though...

http://www.beihaipark.com.cn/en/scene/north-8.htm
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ray! on April 28, 2009, 04:37:34 AM
Found the U-Turn clue!

Shana/Jennifer U-Turning TK/Rachel. (Oh God, I had to look up the winners' names.)

Cool. And I only wish they U-Turned TK/Rachel (Lorena/Jason getting U-Turned :( :()

So possibly:

Cara/Jaime U-Turn someone. However, has it been said somewhere that someone is indeed U-Turned? What if (may sound crazy) J/C in a moment of desparation, U-Turn M/L because they could be the only team that they see while doing the Detour? However M/L are actually ahead, hence the U-Turn is null & void? (a la Kynt/Vyxsin in Mumbai) Just spec though. :duno:

PS: I really hope Kisha/Jen make the Final 3. :P
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 28, 2009, 05:11:31 AM

Found the U-Turn clue!


That clue, that there is a U-Turn ahead, is probably in the envelope that Phil hands out at the TBC mat along with the directions to the detour and the HOO bunching. They have to finish the detour and then FIND the U-turn sign to get the next route info envelope. In the first Siberian leg, in Krasnoyarsk, either the guy at the wood pile or the girl in the house they put the shutters on, gave them the clue to the U-Turn sign/route marker. If you remember, it was back near the center of that hamlet behind a tall fence. I suspect that U-Turn sign in Beijing will be similarily hidden between the two detour options.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jerseydude on April 28, 2009, 06:26:20 AM
I agree with Mooyou, It is Beihai Park. First of all, It is MUCH closer to the roadblock than the summer's palace. Also there are pictures that look similar to the confessions.

This first picture looks like Kisha's and Jen if you look at the tree on the right.
(http://i40.[banned image hosting site].com/2i116yo.jpg)
The second one looks like Margie and Luke's because it is near a lake and also it has the plaques in the confessions.
(http://i43.[banned image hosting site].com/j8d5ko.jpg).

This will also probably be a 24 hour pitstop because the hours of operation are 6am-10pm and the inner island is 8:30-6. So I guess Phil left and got the same flight at Tammy and Victor because they spend all the time film the confessions and interviews and stuff like that.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 28, 2009, 06:45:30 AM
And the color pattern of Beihai Park matches more to the pictures that we have with Margie and Luke and Jaime and Cara's...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: apskip on April 28, 2009, 06:55:09 AM
:jerry: and cdfe88, maybe you need to make fewer speculations about the meaning of "throw someone under the bus" via U-Turn. It is not a literal statement. It is figurative and its meaning is crystal clear. It means "do something that the other team will interpret as nasty."
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: apskip on April 28, 2009, 07:04:17 AM
slayton and David Junior,
How many Amazing Race eating challenges have you seen? I can think of only two that I considered to be "fun". That was AR10 in Morocco where there were lamb kabobs and ARA1 in India where it was a Bengali feast. All other eating challenges are "nasty", some worse than others. Now, Peking duck is one of the most delicious meals you could ever have (that's why that name is famous and instantly recognizable around the world). The odds of having a "fun" meal for an eating challenge are quite low. In fact, the previews have shown that starfish is on the menu. Sounds yummy, doesn't it?

Where is Andrew Zimmern when we need him as an eating instructor?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 28, 2009, 07:39:55 AM
And the color pattern of Beihai Park matches more to the pictures that we have with Margie and Luke and Jaime and Cara's...

I think you are on to something here, Mooyou. If you will look at the pics of J/C and M/L in post #69 in this thread, you will see behind them, that there is a round door. Find that round door and you have found the Pit Stop for sure. You do not need to run the video, just look in the background of the still photo.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ashe on April 28, 2009, 08:55:32 AM
I've spent the last half-hour running scenarios in my head, thinking of something -- anything -- that could mean Jaime & Cara are safe in this next upcoming episode.  And all I keep coming around to is the Beijing sighting with them and Margie & Luke, which has me wondering if it is Margie & Luke they're with?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DavidJunior on April 28, 2009, 10:18:48 AM
slayton and David Junior,
How many Amazing Race eating challenges have you seen? I can think of only two that I considered to be "fun". That was AR10 in Morocco where there were lamb kabobs and ARA1 in India where it was a Bengali feast. All other eating challenges are "nasty", some worse than others. Now, Peking duck is one of the most delicious meals you could ever have (that's why that name is famous and instantly recognizable around the world). The odds of having a "fun" meal for an eating challenge are quite low. In fact, the previews have shown that starfish is on the menu. Sounds yummy, doesn't it?

Where is Andrew Zimmern when we need him as an eating instructor?

i think we were thinking more along the lines of you have to pick up a certain amount of ducks (live?) and then transport them to a disclosed location.  and to possibly make it harder for some of the teams (not T/V, which is why they do it), have the address and directions in chinese only (whether its actual chinese characters or they've just been spelled out phonetically)

all in all, i agree. having an easy/fun eating option (eating peking duck) would be idiotic and lame.  it'd be even worse to have it and then another eating task as the roadblock
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 10:21:37 AM
Did you guys see this? thanks CBS

The Amazing Race - Stomach The Challenge Four teams are left to battle it out for the money
 
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jerseydude on April 28, 2009, 10:26:01 AM
I think that it might have to do with sending stuff around, probably not duck because if you've been to Beijing, you probably won't see many ducks on the street. For the locations of the Make Up detour could it be in the National Centre for the Performing Arts? It is nearby and it did have Operas there (i know there was one on the 20th for sure but it was a night). So what do you think?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Coutzy on April 28, 2009, 10:38:19 AM
Woah! Video not available in my country.

Could somebody describe it please? If thats at all possible?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: 2old4tech on April 28, 2009, 11:03:00 AM
Did you guys see this? thanks CBS


The partners apply make-up to each other.  So...either Margie or Tammy for the title "He made me look like Alice Cooper", but we see no make-up on T&V.  It must be Margie.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 11:07:46 AM
Phil: this leg of the race is not over you are still racing
Cara in cab with with route clue: were not done racing
Kisha and Jen walking in makeup with gnome in hand
VO: with 2 episodes left the teams must push their limits
Luke tells mom to stop moving as he applies makeup with the gnome in view
Marge: you yell at me again and I'm finished
VO: make hard choices
Kisha and Jen in a cab at night
Tammy & Vic at the Roadblock area : oh my gosh!
female (Margie?): U-Turn
shots of the U-turn and cluebox inside maybe a theatre? museum?
Cara and Jamie not in makeup carrying the gnome: this is how you lose the race I think were screwed so
shot of Margie & Luke in makeup on the street
VO: and stomach the challenge
Victor:  even the larva is really chewey
Kisha to Jen: does it taste like chicken?









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Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 11:29:41 AM
Found the U-Turn clue!

Shana/Jennifer U-Turning TK/Rachel Lorena/Jason. (Oh God, I had to look up the winners' names.)
you rock Neobie!

and Beihai Park, that could be it!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: rpierson915 on April 28, 2009, 11:37:05 AM
Just a question, according to the latest preview, could the picture of T/V standing together be at the pit stop? Tammy looks pleasantly surprised and Victor has a big smile on his face.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: netjunkbox on April 28, 2009, 11:45:20 AM
In the preview, Victor and Tammy is the only team not seen with a gnome.  Maybe they are first to the pit stop but have to go back and get the gnome therefore they fall into last place because of this mistake???
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 11:53:10 AM
Just a question, according to the latest preview, could the picture of T/V standing together be at the pit stop? Tammy looks pleasantly surprised and Victor has a big smile on his face.
Could be!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: gator27 on April 28, 2009, 11:55:34 AM
In the preview, Victor and Tammy is the only team not seen with a gnome.  Maybe they are first to the pit stop but have to go back and get the gnome therefore they fall into last place because of this mistake???

In previous TAR seasons, one of the general tasks has been to find the gnome.  If this is true, we do not have a location for the gnome hunt. :gnome
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: FLFan on April 28, 2009, 12:07:01 PM
Just speculating....

If T/V use the U-turn, I don't see them U-turning M/L.  T/V would mostly like either choose J/C because of the taxi cab issue from the previous night, or more likely K/J since they know that they can not beat K/J in a foot race.  Since TAR final legs sometimes have things involving speed of foot, it might be better for them to U-Turn K/J since T/V seem to be able to out footrace the other remaining teams.  By U-turning K/J, they should be able to guarantee K/J's elimination.  This would benefit them since they know bunching is generally planned for the final leg and they would be the fastest left for any land speed activities by foot.  Not politics, just good strategy.  I could see Victor U-turning K/J and saying "no more mr nice guy".

J/C would most likely U-Turn K/J.  I don't see them U-turning M/L because of the alliance.  I don't think they are going to beat T/V to the U-turn.  But that leaves K/J to U-turn which J/C would feel they are doing M/L a favor.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: rpierson915 on April 28, 2009, 12:08:59 PM
In the picture of T/V standing together, you can see the top of the gnome's hat and face in Victor's arms.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: gator27 on April 28, 2009, 12:14:26 PM
:jerry: and cdfe88, maybe you need to make fewer speculations about the meaning of "throw someone under the bus" via U-Turn. It is not a literal statement. It is figurative and its meaning is crystal clear. It means "do something that the other team will interpret as nasty."

I think it is a good idea to briefly think about the literal meaning of "throwing someone under the bus".  In last episode we spend a good deal of time speculating who would U-Turn Kisha & Jen, and it turned out that they kept switching tasks.  Maybe someone will find a bus depot (Google Earth) near the location of the U-Turn sign and the literal meaning might make more sense.

We have to be careful about this theme because we do not want a  :angel: from puddin
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: rpierson915 on April 28, 2009, 12:16:23 PM
Ok, another question. I hope I can ask this is a way that makes sense! In an earlier picture of C/J, where one of them is holding what appears to be either a U-Turn clue or their courtesy of pic, it looks like they are outside on a sidewalk, but the picture of the U-Turn clue box appears to be inside. Does this mean anything? Would it be more likely that C/J were U-Turned and not the ones who U-Turned another team?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Coutzy on April 28, 2009, 12:37:16 PM
To me, it looks like T/V are at the Roadblock at roughly the same time that K/J and C/J are walking in their make up, so it looks like they have a solid lead and will probably repeat the domination of a leg that we saw in leg 2.

PS. Thanks for the screencaps and script.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 01:23:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throw_under_the_bus
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2009, 01:40:04 PM
I've spent the last half-hour running scenarios in my head, thinking of something -- anything -- that could mean Jaime & Cara are safe in this next upcoming episode.  And all I keep coming around to is the Beijing sighting with them and Margie & Luke, which has me wondering if it is Margie & Luke they're with?

O.M.G.  I am never sharing another spoiler with you all!   :groan: :groan: :groan:

Ashe, I spent ages with this source. All facts have been double and triple checked. Sometimes sources do make mistakes, but as said in the spoiler itself, the source PICKED OUT the teams involved from cast pictures I sent..


But if it makes you happy to think it was Steven and Linda, please, ....be my guest. And what possible difference would it make to C/J anyway?? :pull
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 01:49:19 PM
I've spent the last half-hour running scenarios in my head, thinking of something -- anything -- that could mean Jaime & Cara are safe in this next upcoming episode.  And all I keep coming around to is the Beijing sighting with them and Margie & Luke, which has me wondering if it is Margie & Luke they're with?

O.M.G.  I am never sharing another spoiler with you all!   :groan: :groan: :groan:

Ashe, I spent ages with this source. All facts have been double and triple checked. Sometimes sources do make mistakes, but as said in the spoiler itself, the source PICKED OUT the teams involved from cast pictures I sent..


But if it makes you happy to think it was Steven and Linda, please, ....be my guest. And what possible difference would it make to C/J anyway?? :pull

  :lol: ..  peach this is one of the reasons I scream " SERENITY NOW!!"

eta: heres where you could download the preview http://www.mediafire.com/?jjtztlxywud
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on April 28, 2009, 01:53:15 PM
Ok, another question. I hope I can ask this is a way that makes sense! In an earlier picture of C/J, where one of them is holding what appears to be either a U-Turn clue or their courtesy of pic, it looks like they are outside on a sidewalk, but the picture of the U-Turn clue box appears to be inside. Does this mean anything? Would it be more likely that C/J were U-Turned and not the ones who U-Turned another team?

I think the clue or pictures or whatever they have, is informing them there is a u-turn...BUT they have to find the u-turn box.  Didn't the description say a team wanders around looking for the u-turn?  Is the u-turn usually to go back and do the other detour task?
That said, I guess it could be C/J u-turned and are looking for the task.  But I think it is more likely they are searching for the box (which we know is inside) so that they can u-turn someone.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: netjunkbox on April 28, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
I don't understand why they would be searching for the u-turn box.  wouldn't the u-turn box be in a location where everyone has to pass through and can be easily spotted?  Otherwise, it would be silly to make the teams to search for the u-turn box to see if they got u-turned.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on April 28, 2009, 02:20:49 PM
05/03  He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper (China)

No More Mr. Nice Guy (China)
This week's U-Turn isn't anonymous but that doesn't stop one team from throwing another under the bus. Racers crunch on fried scorpion among other Chinese critters. Colorful teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started.

COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," MAY 3, ON CBS
"He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper" (China) - The Racers must eat fried scorpions at a Roadblock, but even the distaste of a scorpion pales in comparison to the cutthroat behavior of a Team that publicly throws another under a bus with a U-Turn, on THE AMAZING RACE 14, Sunday, May 3 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.

 
 


They could be looking for the actually u-turn box or the task...I guess it is in how you take the phrase "in search of a u-turn"

ETA: hopefully they aren't wandering for hours just to u-turn someone, would not make sense at all.  So if J/C are indeed searching for the u-turn, I'm afraid it is to do the task.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Chateau d If on April 28, 2009, 03:27:59 PM
In the video we see Margie & Luke and Jen & Kisha in the same shot getting made up.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0034-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Boingo on April 28, 2009, 04:01:39 PM
 ;D Just throwing this out there...Huguang Guild Hall is known for it's Peking Opera, and has a small museum which may be where the cluebox/U-turn is seen.  Need to do some more searching.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 04:24:36 PM
Hello Boingo  :hearts:

So if the clue is about Jamie & Cara which I think it is then the U-Turn must be at which ever opera theatre they were at for the make up taking us back to Neobies note of what the girls are asking on the streets whether its "wen cheng gao" or "ge" or whatever they are saying might help find the opera place?
Colorful teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCXeTAsgVWA
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Boingo on April 28, 2009, 04:56:51 PM
Hello Boingo  :hearts:

So if the clue is about Jamie & Cara which I think it is then the U-Turn must be at which ever opera theatre they were at for the make up taking us back to Neobies note of what the girls are asking on the streets whether its "wen cheng gao" or "ge" or whatever they are saying might help find the opera place?
Colorful teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCXeTAsgVWA

I take it the girls were "U-turned".  So if the cluebox AND U-turn are at the opera museum, then shouldn't the girls do the U-turn first before getting their make-up at the opera hall?  So why are they walking around in makeup looking for the U-turn (location)?  Oh my brain hurts.... :groan:  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
  :lol: ..  peach this is one of the reasons I scream " SERENITY NOW!!"



I think my serenity just got destroyed. :lol:

This will take some getting over! Pass the :martini: , I'll take two!!

 :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 05:15:37 PM
  :lol: ..  peach this is one of the reasons I scream " SERENITY NOW!!"



I think my serenity just got destroyed. :lol:

This will take some getting over! Pass the :martini: , I'll take two!!

 :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
Now that the final 3 can finally be revealed  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg392676.html#msg392676) I think I'll join you in that martini peach :beer:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 05:24:28 PM
Hello Boingo  :hearts:

So if the clue is about Jamie & Cara which I think it is then the U-Turn must be at which ever opera theatre they were at for the make up taking us back to Neobies note of what the girls are asking on the streets whether its "wen cheng gao" or "ge" or whatever they are saying might help find the opera place?
Colorful teams wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCXeTAsgVWA

I take it the girls were "U-turned".  So if the cluebox AND U-turn are at the opera museum, then shouldn't the girls do the U-turn first before getting their make-up at the opera hall?  So why are they walking around in makeup looking for the U-turn (location)?  Oh my brain hurts.... :groan:  :funny:
wait wait .. the teams only know their is a U-Turn ahead once they complete one of the detours so the girls have completed the makeup detour and are probably handed a clue on completion that stated caution U-Turn ahead and get route info that sends them to the next cluebox/U-Turn box so if they "wander the Beijing streets for hours in search of a U-Turn, which is right where they started" wouldn't they be right back at the opera place? *ouch now my head hurts and am confused as well  :lol: *
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 28, 2009, 05:42:47 PM
  :lol: ..  peach this is one of the reasons I scream " SERENITY NOW!!"



I think my serenity just got destroyed. :lol:

This will take some getting over! Pass the :martini: , I'll take two!!

 :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
Now that the final 3 can finally be revealed  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=post;quote=392676;topic=17788.1500;num_replies=1512;sesc=f18872ffa54a2ea73ae7c2480af2fc39) I think I'll join you in that martini peach :beer:

I hope i'm not this dumb, But that link does not work. Or is it not suppose too? Its been a long day at the Library.  :stare
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: apskip on April 28, 2009, 05:45:11 PM
NoLuckboston, I can't comment otherwise but i agree that the link is a phony. Why would puddin do such a thing to RFF members and oustiders who wander in for a peek? I haven't the foggiest idea.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on April 28, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
  :lol: ..  peach this is one of the reasons I scream " SERENITY NOW!!"



I think my serenity just got destroyed. :lol:

This will take some getting over! Pass the :martini: , I'll take two!!

 :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
Now that the final 3 can finally be revealed  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=post;quote=392676;topic=17788.1500;num_replies=1512;sesc=f18872ffa54a2ea73ae7c2480af2fc39) I think I'll join you in that martini peach :beer:

puddin and peach celebrate!! Finally!!

 :conf: :blaster :martini: :wine: :cheer:

AND CONGRATS TO OUR FINAL THREE!!!!!

Try this link!!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg392676.html#msg392676

Heh...phoney..Baloney!! :neener:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 28, 2009, 05:50:22 PM
Thank you guys.

 :piano:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on April 28, 2009, 06:31:31 PM
;D Just throwing this out there...Huguang Guild Hall is known for it's Peking Opera, and has a small museum which may be where the cluebox/U-turn is seen.  Need to do some more searching.

YES YES THAT'S IT! :tup:

(http://www.86art.net/sj/UploadFiles_4588/200708/20070822014332219.jpg)
This building is ALSO called Wenchang Ge!

It's in the Huguang Guild Hall complex, the place where the Chos got lost and found the mysterious "Chinese Special Dish" back in Season 10.

Jaime/Cara are half a (huge Beijing) block away. So they must have finished the Detour at the Guild Hall, took out the Courtesy Of picture wanting to U-Turn someone, but wander around the streets not knowing that Wenchang Ge is right back where they started - in the Guild Hall.

(This means the Summer Palace lead is broken.)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 06:42:44 PM
 :yess: Neobie and Boingo!  :yess: :yess: :gj:  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: kwando1313 on April 28, 2009, 07:02:03 PM
  :lol: ..  peach this is one of the reasons I scream " SERENITY NOW!!"



I think my serenity just got destroyed. :lol:

This will take some getting over! Pass the :martini: , I'll take two!!

 :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
Now that the final 3 can finally be revealed  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=post;quote=392676;topic=17788.1500;num_replies=1512;sesc=f18872ffa54a2ea73ae7c2480af2fc39) I think I'll join you in that martini peach :beer:

puddin and peach celebrate!! Finally!!

 :conf: :blaster :martini: :wine: :cheer:

AND CONGRATS TO OUR FINAL THREE!!!!!

Try this link!!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg392676.html#msg392676

Heh...phoney..Baloney!! :neener:

SERENITY NOW! INSANITY LATER! :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: michael on April 28, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
OH MY GOSH!
I SO DID NOT SEE T/V, C/J, AND M/L BEING THE FINAL THREE.

I AM EVER SO SURPRISED.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Mister RC on April 28, 2009, 07:52:46 PM
If there's anyone that didn't believe TARTimes have changed throughout this decade, this is it!  JMO, but if I stopped after 2004-2005, and resumed this year (though I would've been apart of allstars), I would've called it: Preston/Jennifer, Mel/Mike, and Amanda/Kris.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 08:13:50 PM
okay so with all that out of the way lets get back to figuring out this episode/ pitstop etc

Find that Pitstop!!


(short commercial shown during the Mentalist)
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eta: looking at L/M and T/V 's pictures do they arrive back to back?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Slowhatch on April 28, 2009, 08:32:10 PM
 :tup: It's on the card, but I can't quite read it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: redskevin88 on April 28, 2009, 08:33:11 PM
It's probably some kind of park... the biggest park I know is near the Beijing Zoo.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 08:44:04 PM
Sorry the card is the clue to the North Gate fake pitstop :groan:

It must be near the main city you can see the buildings in the smog
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0046-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0046-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0047-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0047-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0048-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0048-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0049-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0049-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Boingo on April 28, 2009, 11:35:40 PM
 ;D  OK, someone mentioned the zoo.... let's run with that.... there just happens to be a rock garden at the Beijing Zoo. :lol:   Just thinking out loud.... food for thought.... wink wink..  ;)   :duno:

...fwiw, I think the rocks in the confessional are not real, but a concrete facade... as are the ones at the zoo... more food for thought....  don't see a buddha though... :res:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 11:37:51 PM
Who'd have thunk this place would be so hard to find?  :lol: .. the fence is just so new looking right? and willows are near water right? but this is China so what do I know about their trees gosh ........


eta:  :waves: Boingo we were posting at the same time
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Boingo on April 28, 2009, 11:53:03 PM
Who'd have thunk this place would be so hard to find? 

 :lol:  because no one takes pictures of fences (and rocks)....  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 29, 2009, 12:02:08 AM
Any new parks near the Olympic venues?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2009, 12:03:25 AM
Who'd have thunk this place would be so hard to find? 

 :lol:  because no one takes pictures of fences (and rocks)....  :groan:
  :umn: that makes sense  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2009, 12:31:46 AM
I guess this goes here (or not? lol)

The Amazing Race 14 Phil's Diary: Episode 8

Phil" we've just finished the second to last leg of the race. I now have between 3:30 and tomorrow morning , the teams and all of us will be leaving BeiJing ..........

 
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DrRox on April 29, 2009, 01:15:19 AM
Prince Gong's Mansion maybe.......

"The rear section of the garden has a multi-leveled artificial hill built of Lake Tai stones. The bottom level has tunnels running through it and contains a stone with the character "fu" (meaning happiness in Chinese) written on it in the calligraphy of Qing Emperor Kangxi (1662-1722)."

Off to grab a couple of pics...

Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Moo on April 29, 2009, 01:19:27 AM
All these rock finding and hall finding made my head hurt...

Seriously, do every park in Beijing have a rock garden that looks alike each other? Temples do have the same color codes though... So it's really so hard to distinguish...  :(

Oh yeah, I agree with DrRox that it may be the Prince Gong's Mansion after all...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: wuzhaozhe on April 29, 2009, 03:33:09 AM
(http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%D6%D8%C2%A5%C7%B0%B3%BE/pic/item/632018dbc2c5a0fab7fd4871.jpeg)(http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%B3%A4%C9%B3%B6%FE%CA%D6%B8%D6%C7%D9/pic/item/3ac7fdd81365cdc939012fc7.jpeg)

the pit stop might be Yuyuantan Park
http://www.beijingyuyuantanpark.com/
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 29, 2009, 08:00:11 AM
Who'd have thunk this place would be so hard to find?  :lol: .. the fence is just so new looking right? and willows are near water right? but this is China so what do I know about their trees gosh ........


eta:  :waves: Boingo we were posting at the same time

If you look closely at that white fence. It looks like one of those temporary types. The footing looks like it has a base. So its possible that fence was only up for the Olympics and just not taken down yet.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: kwando1313 on April 29, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
I guess this goes here (or not? lol)

The Amazing Race 14 Phil's Diary: Episode 8

Phil" we've just finished the second to last leg of the race. I now have between 3:30 and tomorrow morning , the teams and all of us will be leaving BeiJing ..........

 

Also it said that bike shop is around the hotel or close to the hotel so probably the Pit Stop is close to there...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: eragon on April 29, 2009, 08:47:48 AM
we knew K/J were eliminated... maybe they we're U-Turned by J/C...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on April 29, 2009, 09:01:13 AM
I've got a list of locations for the Giant bike shop Phil's walking by, but Street View's too screwed up to use as a tool...

The Chinese forums have provided as a list of places in Beijing with lakes...

Yuyuan Lake (Yuyuantan) which they are most inclined towards, Zizhu Garden (Zizhuyuan), the Zoo, Taoranting, Tuanjie Lake (Tuanjiehu), Chaoyang Park, Olympic Park, Houhai, Beihai, Shichahai, Zhongnanhai (nope, because it's China's super secret headquarters), Longtan Lake, Kunming Lake (Summer Palace) and Honglingjin Park

Map of Yuyuantan if it helps us pinpoint the location or the Buddha or the pavillion:
(http://www.beijingyuyuantanpark.com/im/zongtu.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2009, 11:11:53 AM
Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing wuzhaozhe  :waves:

Maybe the confessionals were not taken at the pitstop area as they gave the teams time to wash off their makeup? And the buddha and pavillion or whatever it is were filmed somewhere else?

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Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Boingo on April 29, 2009, 11:14:57 AM
 ;D  found a blog on YuYuanTan Park (http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/bloggingbeijing/2008/01/a_walk_in_the_park_1.html)   :duno:

 :groan:   FWIW, lots of rocks in LongTan Dragon Park (http://www.beijingguide2008.com/longtan_dragon_park/pt.php#self)   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Hooky on April 29, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
OH MY GOSH!
I SO DID NOT SEE T/V, C/J, AND M/L BEING THE FINAL THREE.

I AM EVER SO SURPRISED.

*sarcasm*

In my case, at least. Those three have been mostly expected by me the entire race, based on editing.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Belle Book on April 29, 2009, 07:24:25 PM
I got two out of three right, but I was misled by the sight of Tammy & Victor with Phil and the executive producer -- or at least in the same area as them.  I thought that meant they were out of the Race.  Instead it appears to be LaKisha & Jen.  I'm glad Tammy & Victor are safe, but part of me wishes it was Margie & Luke who were out and not LaKisha & Jen.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ashe on April 29, 2009, 07:32:02 PM
OH MY GOSH!
I SO DID NOT SEE T/V, C/J, AND M/L BEING THE FINAL THREE.

I AM EVER SO SURPRISED.

*sarcasm*

In my case, at least. Those three have been mostly expected by me the entire race, based on editing.
Doesn't help that they're three of the four teams who got pre-season promos.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2009, 07:57:28 PM
Any new parks near the Olympic venues?

Gosh i am pathetic ......
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 29, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
OH MY GOSH!
I SO DID NOT SEE T/V, C/J, AND M/L BEING THE FINAL THREE.

I AM EVER SO SURPRISED.

*sarcasm*

In my case, at least. Those three have been mostly expected by me the entire race, based on editing.
Doesn't help that they're three of the four teams who got pre-season promos.
Which goes to show that these theories usually end up wrong as Mel and Mike are not final 4 nor 3. Most were sure Amanda & Kris were at least final 5 because they were featured in a pre-season video as well.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ashe on April 29, 2009, 08:14:21 PM
OH MY GOSH!
I SO DID NOT SEE T/V, C/J, AND M/L BEING THE FINAL THREE.

I AM EVER SO SURPRISED.

*sarcasm*

In my case, at least. Those three have been mostly expected by me the entire race, based on editing.
Doesn't help that they're three of the four teams who got pre-season promos.
Which goes to show that these theories usually end up wrong as Mel and Mike are not final 4 nor 3. Most were sure Amanda & Kris were at least final 5 because they were featured in a pre-season video as well.
Still, the other three are the F3, so . . . And I think Mel & Mike just got one due to their prior fame, rather than them making the F4 (which they didn't).  Maybe the show just wanted to give the "big" characters of the season their own promos or something.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 30, 2009, 10:31:33 AM
There was a new clip today during the Price is Right. 11.10-11.11

Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2009, 10:33:35 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0000-3.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0002-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0003-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0004-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0005-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0006-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0007-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0008-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0009-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-3.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-3.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0012-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0013-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0014-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0015-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0016-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0017-2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jerseydude on April 30, 2009, 10:41:58 AM
Do you think the detour could be related to Chinese Opera (like both of them) and one could be wear it (wearing the costumes of the Beijing Opera) Or Sing It (Sing Chinese Opera)?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: gator27 on April 30, 2009, 11:07:41 AM
 :gnome

I wonder if you get the gnome at the end of the Detour.  If so, we see Jamie & Cara with a gnome before their faces are painted.  Thus, maybe the started with the Tammy & Victor part of the Detour and then had to U-Turn for the opera make-up.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: serendipity on April 30, 2009, 01:35:27 PM
Someone may have mentioned it, the U-turn is located in the Huguang Huiguan as well.

This area looks like the same as the U-turn sign is located:-
http://www.beijing.cn/rcpage/photoview.html#jingdian/images/img1213780138538_big.jpg

The Chinese opera detour probably takes place in the main theatre area but not at the museum, hence teams may not know that the U-turn is nearby as well.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2009, 02:04:15 PM
Its a match serendipity  :tup:

There was a new clip today during the Price is Right. 11.10-11.11



Thanks NoLuck I was half asleep while posting the screencaps, didn't mean to ignore you.

Nothing new here. same as the youtube promo

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Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 30, 2009, 09:44:17 PM
No problem Pudden,

I did not want to see you have to troll through today's Price is Right for any clips.

Its fun to help.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on April 30, 2009, 10:04:56 PM
Wow. 2 titles! Is this the first time ever?? :)

Quote
who heads off to Maui as decoys? thanks Pedaler

Wow. It's sad Kisha and Jen got eliminated. But, wow.. a Margie and Luke, Cara and Jaime and Victor and Tammy final 3 sure is exciting.. it would be cool to see Cara and Jaime do a Joe Jer and Zabrina (ARA1).. but at the same time it would be cool to see the race first ever deaf racer win (ARA2, Adrian).. or a sibling asian team win.. whom i'm rooting for. I would say, a good and competitive FINAL 3!!

And fried scorpions? Ewww, i know they just taste like crunchy tidbits. But kudos to the teams for eating those. It's super disgusting and in China, they eat almost anything. They have fried grasshopper, ladybird, bugs, snails and anything you can ever think of.. even red ants and spiders i think. I'm not eating those. But this could be a good FF task (aka TAR 9) because you really have to go through something challenging to earn your reward! But i'm not doing it if i was on the race though. LMAO!

And i'm not surprised Kisha and Jen will get U-TURNed.. they are normally slow and clueless about what they're doing. They are just the other version of Kami and Karli, with better physical ability and lucking out that the teams they are competing against are less competitive and made more mistakes.. that is why they are in the F4. And they are given so much lesser edit than the other 3 teams.. thus i will really be surprised if they made the F3.

Anyway, i'm loving this season and i can't wait for the finale. Someone please contain my bursting excitement! :funny: :jumpy: :hearts: :jam: :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on April 30, 2009, 11:05:46 PM
some videos

 

 


 
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on May 01, 2009, 08:50:31 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0017-2.jpg)

I'm sorry, but Kisha looks freakingly scary. :umn:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 01, 2009, 04:28:39 PM
Regarding the u-turn and the detour.  I haven't seen any possible locations listed yet for the task T/V chose.  The 2 detours must be relatively close together, if not in the same location.  If it is the same way as it was in episode 4 (when A/K were u-turned), the teams complete the task and are given a clue to find the next clue box, with a warning that the u-turn is ahead.  They have to find the clue box, which should be next to the U-turn.  I really can't see them having the u-turn in the same building as one of the detour choices and have the other detour choice be far away.
So any/all of the teams could be wandering looking for the u-turn NOT because they were u-turned, and NOT because they want to u-turn someone.  They all have to find the box to get their next clue.
That said, my official speculation is...T/V u-turn K/J.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Belle Book on May 01, 2009, 06:05:47 PM
I also think Tammy & Victor U-Turn LaKisha & Jen, and Victor's the one who says "No More Mr. Nice Guy."  Maybe they think that the other two teams are ahead and that's why they go after the sisters.  Or maybe they just realize how good LaKisha & Jen are as runners.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
Wow. 2 titles! Is this the first time ever?? :)


I think season 7 1 episode had 2 titles ..but I'd have to check the archives.

Yeah TAR7 EP9:  "We Have A bad Elephant"/ "Talk to the Camel"
 
 

Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Hooky on May 01, 2009, 07:44:35 PM
Wow. 2 titles! Is this the first time ever?? :)


I think season 7 1 episode had 2 titles ..but I'd have to check the archives.

Yeah TAR7 EP9:  "We Have A bad Elephant"/ "Talk to the Camel"
 

Never seen that title before. Two titles sounds a little pointless.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2009, 08:49:47 PM
 Besides the Olympic knot in the fence,,, well this is the only thing I could find that might tie the pit stop in with the Olympics but for all I know this is the Beijing guard universal winter uniform  :lol:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0057.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0059.jpg)

from the web ..
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0058.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/3080756567_42722ac9f8.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: jerseydude on May 01, 2009, 09:17:23 PM
Puddin,

Just an FYI, I think that the uniform you saw is just the regular policeman's uniform and in addition the guy next to Margie looks like this random old man walking in the park.I live in china an a lot of old people dress like that .

Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2009, 09:28:49 PM
Puddin,

Just an FYI, I think that the uniform you saw is just the regular policeman's uniform and in addition the guy next to Margie looks like this random old man walking in the park.I live in china an a lot of old people dress like that .


:lol: I concur that none of the above people have ever been in my kitchen! But hey that guy that looks like a guard shows up in T/V and M/L 's back round so I thought he might be posted as a guard ... grasping at tiny straws here  :blaster
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: panda on May 01, 2009, 09:51:19 PM
I also think Tammy & Victor U-Turn LaKisha & Jen, and Victor's the one who says "No More Mr. Nice Guy."  Maybe they think that the other two teams are ahead and that's why they go after the sisters.  Or maybe they just realize how good LaKisha & Jen are as runners.

Belle Book


or maybe luke telling his mommy. sometimes victor can be bad but i think he wont do it because K/J arent bad to them. But if they are good enough to think about the running thing then, he could be the one saying that. XP
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on May 01, 2009, 11:15:34 PM
Quote
I also think Tammy & Victor U-Turn LaKisha & Jen, and Victor's the one who says "No More Mr. Nice Guy."  Maybe they think that the other two teams are ahead and that's why they go after the sisters.  Or maybe they just realize how good LaKisha & Jen are as runners.

I think this is really a good theory! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: redskevin88 on May 01, 2009, 11:23:18 PM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 01, 2009, 11:24:54 PM
I am hoping for another UTURN elimination!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 01, 2009, 11:36:33 PM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:
  ???
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: michael on May 01, 2009, 11:38:10 PM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:
  ???

 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: redskevin88 on May 02, 2009, 01:12:53 AM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:
  ???

 :lol:

Tammy's face is one of that of shock. Either they were u-turned, or they decided to u-turn somebody...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2009, 02:08:49 AM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:
  ???

 :lol:

Tammy's face is one of that of shock. Either they were u-turned, or they decided to u-turn somebody...
No the U-Turn is inside the opera place/museum and that look on Tammys face is at the pitstop... read above.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 02, 2009, 02:13:49 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: redskevin88 on May 02, 2009, 02:21:37 AM
Okay, guys I'm sorry.  :-[
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 02, 2009, 03:02:54 AM
 :tup: I am sorry to you! I myself was laughing at what I had posted! Trust me on this "we all make mistakes"  ;)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: gator27 on May 02, 2009, 06:25:00 AM


And it goes with the clue!!
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-1.jpg)

If you also review pictures in post #30, it looks like Jamie and Cara are the team wandering around.  How about Tammy & Victor U-Turning our cheerleaders?!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: redskevin88 on May 02, 2009, 06:35:54 AM


And it goes with the clue!!
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-1.jpg)

Tammy/Victor are to put it, they are "devilishly clever". I can see why they will probably try to back stab another team probably Kisha/Jen or Jamie/Cara...

If you also review pictures in post #30, it looks like Jamie and Cara are the team wandering around.  How about Tammy & Victor U-Turning our cheerleaders?!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: apskip on May 02, 2009, 07:24:47 AM
T/V "devilishly clever"? or, in my opinion, just doing whatever it takes to maximize their chance at winning $1 million in the final leg. They don't have ot be devilishly clever. All they can do is try to get rid of their most feared opponents via the U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 02, 2009, 09:41:16 AM


And it goes with the clue!!
COMMUNICATION IS CLEARLY NOT A SKILL THAT THE TEAMS POSSESS IN BEIJING AS THEY DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR DESTINATION IN SEARCH OF A U-TURN

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0010-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0010-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0011-1.jpg)

Tammy/Victor are to put it, they are "devilishly clever". I can see why they will probably try to back stab another team probably Kisha/Jen or Jamie/Cara...

If you also review pictures in post #30, it looks like Jamie and Cara are the team wandering around.  How about Tammy & Victor U-Turning our cheerleaders?!

I think that if J/C were u-turned, they would have been eliminated.  I still think it makes more sense that it was K/J.  Someone thrown under the bus...T/V are closer to K/J ( especially after the taxi incident the night before).  Plus, after the leg, T/V were in the lead, but K/J beat them in a foot race to the pit stop.  Add to that the fact that T/V might not realize that they have passed the 1st & 2nd place teams, you are going to u-turn the team you think is behind you.  It makes perfect sense that K/J would be the team to u-turn.

ETA: remember they all have to find the u-turn because that is were the next clue box is.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: serendipity on May 02, 2009, 12:11:57 PM
We saw Jaime/Cara wandered on the street with the gnome and without any opera make up, so does that mean the find-the-gnome task happen before detour, and they have to carry the gnome in the entire leg? Or do Jaime/Cara clean the make up after the detour?

For the other task, really have no idea what Tammy/Victor would do, but I think it is also related to Chinese Opera and probably takes place nearby, otherwise it would be unfair to set the U-turn close to one detour.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ruth on May 02, 2009, 12:19:35 PM
I'm actually guessing that Victor's the one who said "No more Mr. Nice Guy" towards the end of the episode, when the final three are revealed and each team gives its thoughts about the finale. I'm guessing that it's during then that Victor says that, not during a U-turn. But that's only my guess, it'll be cool to see if they really U-turn Kisha and Jen.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2009, 05:33:54 PM
golf was a let down today as far as TAR promos
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 02, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
 I can't get it to quote here, but in Post #191, it was thought that the circled person was Kisha.  Could it possibly be the person seated who seems to be watching someone to her left (possibly Margie & Luke).  She is shown in the preview tape while Margie is telling Luke not to yell.  Why would the girls already have their costume on if they are still doing each others make-up?

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18689.0;attach=112572)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0006-3.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 02, 2009, 07:03:25 PM
I can't get it to quote here, but in Post #191, it was thought that the circled person was Kisha.  Could it possibly be the person seated who seems to be watching someone to her left (possibly Margie & Luke).  She is shown in the preview tape while Margie is telling Luke not to yell.  Why would the girls already have their costume on if they are still doing each others make-up?


Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 02, 2009, 07:07:09 PM
Thanks Puddin, when I tried to magnify it was too grainy, but I can see clearly in your enlargement that it is them!
I was looking at the one circled that was seated, I couldn't get a clear view of them standing.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on May 03, 2009, 04:56:59 AM
Nothing escapes puddin!! :jam:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 11:13:13 AM
Nothing escapes puddin!! :jam:
It was Chateau's call not mine :)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Chateau d If on May 03, 2009, 12:17:35 PM
nice save!   :tup:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
nice save!   :tup:

Nice work to both of you!  I don't suppose you know if Cara & Jaime were there before or after them???
                                                                   :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: FLFan on May 03, 2009, 01:30:20 PM
Thanks Puddin, when I tried to magnify it was too grainy, but I can see clearly in your enlargement that it is them!
I was looking at the one circled that was seated, I couldn't get a clear view of them standing.

Since K/J and M/L are doing makeup for the Opera detour at roughly the same time, do we have an hours of operation equalizer in the TBC clue provided at the mat?

To me it looks like K/J have already completed their makeup and only need to put on the headdresses.  M/L are still working on the makeup.  But that would make perfect sense if there was an hours of operation lag.  K/J finishing their makeup before M/L would also make sense, because I am sure that Luke has NEVER had to deal with makeup application before.  It would also make sense that C/J have already completed their make up, dressed and left for the remainder of the task while K/J and M/L are still struggling with the make up.  So the order of leaving from the makeup / dressup portion of the Opera detour would be C/L, K/J, then M/L.  T/V are doing something else.

It appears the J/C remove their makeup at some point.  You can see the remainders on their face near their hair lines in the taxi cab shot.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: FLFan on May 03, 2009, 01:56:51 PM
The TAR commerical at 2:27 has the clue turned toward the camera.  This seems to be the instructions given at the TBC mat since C/J are in at taxi at night.  I can't read it even stepping thru it.  Can anyone else pick it out?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 01:57:40 PM
Thanks Puddin, when I tried to magnify it was too grainy, but I can see clearly in your enlargement that it is them!
I was looking at the one circled that was seated, I couldn't get a clear view of them standing.

Since K/J and M/L are doing makeup for the Opera detour at roughly the same time, do we have an hours of operation equalizer in the TBC clue provided at the mat?

To me it looks like K/J have already completed their makeup and only need to put on the headdresses.  M/L are still working on the makeup.  But that would make perfect sense if there was an hours of operation lag.  K/J finishing their makeup before M/L would also make sense, because I am sure that Luke has NEVER had to deal with makeup application before.  It would also make sense that C/J have already completed their make up, dressed and left for the remainder of the task while K/J and M/L are still struggling with the make up.  So the order of leaving from the makeup / dressup portion of the Opera detour would be C/L, K/J, then M/L.  T/V are doing something else.

It appears the J/C remove their makeup at some point.  You can see the remainders on their face near their hair lines in the taxi cab shot.

Everything you said makes perfect sense.  Since a gnome is seen with them at the detour, I wonder if there is a seperate location to retrieve the gnome, a general task, and possibly that provides a HOO equalizer.  Aren't they usually sent to either a building or some locale that they have to search for the gnomes?   Wasn't it on an island once that they had to take a boat to?
Since T/V seem to be at the roadblock in the early morning, I would guess a very early morning opening somewhere.  That would also give the teams a bit of a rest after the swimming detour from the first half of the TBC.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 02:45:46 PM
I don't see any makeup littlewop just regular makeup
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0008-2.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0044.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0045.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0047-2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 02:48:21 PM
It wasn't me that said it puddin', it was FLFan, but I have to agree with you, I can't really spot the make up either.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 02:55:06 PM
The TAR commerical at 2:27 has the clue turned toward the camera.  This seems to be the instructions given at the TBC mat since C/J are in at taxi at night.  I can't read it even stepping thru it.  Can anyone else pick it out?
Nope I've played it over and over.. the problem is Cara is shaking it sorry!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 02:59:03 PM
I've searched and can't find any pics of Jaime & Cara at the roadblock.  Are there some posted here?  I know Dr. Rox said in an earlier post that it is Jaime that does the roadblock but I don't remember seeing pics of it.  Am I just missing them?  Could someone kindly give me a nudge in the right direction?  Thank you! :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: FLFan on May 03, 2009, 03:00:24 PM
I don't see any makeup littlewop just regular makeup
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0044.jpg)[IMG]

Guess you are right, it is just pale skin in the early morning light and the way the light is bouncing off their hair that makes it look like makeup leftovers.  So I guess they don't remove their makeup after the opera task.  mea culpa.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: FLFan on May 03, 2009, 03:02:20 PM
The TAR commerical at 2:27 has the clue turned toward the camera.  This seems to be the instructions given at the TBC mat since C/J are in at taxi at night.  I can't read it even stepping thru it.  Can anyone else pick it out?
Nope I've played it over and over.. the problem is Cara is shaking it sorry!

Thought it was just me and my TV.  Oh, well.  I will keep DVRing the golf and go check it every so often.  If I see anything I will post the time.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 03:12:17 PM
oops sorry about that littlewop and thanks FLFan although I think were more likely to see Survivor inserts than TAR.
So I'll make some guess's as well
For sure some sort of hours of op to find the gnomes
I'll guess Cara & Jamie know that Luke and Marge and behind and or neck and neck with Jen & Kisha and its the cheerleaders that U-Turn the sisters for payback ,,, Luke and Marge U-Turned Kris and Amanda to help Marge & Luke yadda yadda
Tammy & Vic team #1
Jamie & Cara team #2
Marge & Luke 3rd
The Sisters eliminated.

these are guess's I have no idea who U-Turns who or for sure the placings of the top 3 teams.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on May 03, 2009, 03:28:50 PM
I am still puzzled by seeing J/C with a U-turn clue.

You normally get a U-turn clue at the U-turn box, right? Otherwise the regular clue says Caution , U turn ahead.

Anyone with ideas on that?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Dånooky on May 03, 2009, 03:48:46 PM
I am still puzzled by seeing J/C with a U-turn clue.

You normally get a U-turn clue at the U-turn box, right? Otherwise the regular clue says Caution , you turn ahead.

Anyone with ideas on that?
As far as I know there's no "U-Turn" clue, I think the "clue" you saw is the sticker envelope
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
Found the U-Turn clue!

Shana/Jennifer U-Turning TK/Rachel Lorena/Jason. (Oh God, I had to look up the winners' names.)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18689.0;attach=112571;image)

I can't see where Shana & Jen pulled the detour envelope from ..
They get the clue after they complete the detour then note caution U-Turn ahead then find the U-Turn box and do the nasty to Lorena and Jason then go over the the cluebox where they find get the next clue that takes them to the roadblock yadda yadda

about the 21 minute mark http://www.tarwaddict.net/us12e04.htm
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 03:50:08 PM
I am still puzzled by seeing J/C with a U-turn clue.

You normally get a U-turn clue at the U-turn box, right? Otherwise the regular clue says Caution , you turn ahead.

Anyone with ideas on that?
The only way I can think to explain it is when they finish the detour they are handed a clue.  This clue should take them to the next clue which is also the u-turn location.  Maybe what they are holding is their "courtesy of" photo, which was given to them along with the clue and the warning caution u-turn ahead.
The only other explanation is that they were the team that was u-turned and they are searching for the task.  But if they are searching that long, and still have to do the task, then you'd expect them to be eliminated, which we know they aren't.  Unless Kisha & Jen get a penality, I don't see how with the searching and the doing of the u-turn J/C would beat them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 03:54:55 PM
The TAR commerical at 2:27 has the clue turned toward the camera.  This seems to be the instructions given at the TBC mat since C/J are in at taxi at night.  I can't read it even stepping thru it.  Can anyone else pick it out?
if anyone wants to go for it ... "make your way to ....
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: FLFan on May 03, 2009, 04:01:34 PM
The TAR commerical at 2:27 has the clue turned toward the camera.  This seems to be the instructions given at the TBC mat since C/J are in at taxi at night.  I can't read it even stepping thru it.  Can anyone else pick it out?
if anyone wants to go for it ... "make your way to ....

I don't think you are looking at the right ad.  I believe the 2:27 EDST ad had the clue in Jaime's hand being held fairly still, not being shaking by Cara.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
could the last 3 words be gnome hiding there?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 04:15:26 PM
The TAR commerical at 2:27 has the clue turned toward the camera.  This seems to be the instructions given at the TBC mat since C/J are in at taxi at night.  I can't read it even stepping thru it.  Can anyone else pick it out?
if anyone wants to go for it ... "make your way to ....

I don't think you are looking at the right ad.  I believe the 2:27 EDST ad had the clue in Jaime's hand being held fairly still, not being shaking by Cara.


Make your way to the next pitstop .. The North Gate ...Drum Tower .. (already noted up thread)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/EP11/rff-0040.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: FLFan on May 03, 2009, 04:22:37 PM
The TAR commerical at 2:27 has the clue turned toward the camera.  This seems to be the instructions given at the TBC mat since C/J are in at taxi at night.  I can't read it even stepping thru it.  Can anyone else pick it out?
if anyone wants to go for it ... "make your way to ....

I don't think you are looking at the right ad.  I believe the 2:27 EDST ad had the clue in Jaime's hand being held fairly still, not being shaking by Cara.


Make your way to the next pitstop .. The North Gate ...Drum Tower .. (already noted up thread)


Thanks.  I was / am confused as to why they would show a clue for the TBC pit stop when advertising tonight's show  - other than the fact that 3 teams had not arrived before the TBC screen.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 04:35:12 PM
Well they just aired a longer version.. looks like Luke & Marge are lost in the streets as well .. Marge says "I think like were screwed so uhh .."

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Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 04:47:16 PM
I predict that everyone...except Tammy & Victor, will have some difficulties tonight...my Magic (pink) 8 Ball has spoken
                                                         :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Pedaler on May 03, 2009, 04:53:06 PM
My thoughts on "No More Mr. Nice Guy".

The four teams are going to bunch up in the morning beacuse of an HOO.

C/J and M/L are going to look to Tammy and Victor for help on the leg.  Somewhere along the leg T/V are going to ditch their friends.  Hence, No More Mr. Nice Guy. 

T/V are going to dominate this leg so much they are going to eventually leave China hours before the other teams. ( and no, that doesn't necessarily mean they arrive at the final destination airport earler)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: hakushu8 on May 03, 2009, 05:05:59 PM
I'm gonna guess that clue says "Make your way to the new *something something* (my guess is Peking Man  :funny:) and search for your next clue."
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 05:32:16 PM
I'm gonna guess that clue says "Make your way to the new *something something* (my guess is Peking Man  :funny:) and search for your next clue."
:lol: I was thinking bejing maui but that makes no sense either
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on May 03, 2009, 05:48:53 PM
The only way I can think to explain it is when they finish the detour they are handed a clue.  This clue should take them to the next clue which is also the u-turn location.  Maybe what they are holding is their "courtesy of" photo, which was given to them along with the clue and the warning caution u-turn ahead.
The only other explanation is that they were the team that was u-turned and they are searching for the task.  But if they are searching that long, and still have to do the task, then you'd expect them to be eliminated, which we know they aren't.  Unless Kisha & Jen get a penality, I don't see how with the searching and the doing of the u-turn J/C would beat them.

It is the "courtesy of" photo, which is given to them at the start of the race. Cara/Jaime intend to U-Turn someone, but they'd only be able to do so if they manage to haul ass back to the Guild Hall to that clue box.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 05:59:02 PM
In an hour we will know all  :jumpy: :jumpy:

eta: No flights/airport scramble to look forward to hate!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: gator27 on May 03, 2009, 06:20:54 PM
My thoughts on "No More Mr. Nice Guy".

The four teams are going to bunch up in the morning beacuse of an HOO.

C/J and M/L are going to look to Tammy and Victor for help on the leg.  Somewhere along the leg T/V are going to ditch their friends.  Hence, No More Mr. Nice Guy. 

T/V are going to dominate this leg so much they are going to eventually leave China hours before the other teams. ( and no, that doesn't necessarily mean they arrive at the final destination airport earler)

Hmmm.  I like your thinking.

Here is a different twist on the "thrown under the bus" theme.  Of the 4 remaining teams, which ones are portrayed as the better friends?  I sayMargie & Luke with Jamie & Cara.  If throwing one under the bus involves good friends (I sacrifice you to save me) then Jamie & Cara yield Margie & Luke.

And the reason we see Margie & Luke with Keisa & Jen is that M&L are starting their second Detour as a result of being U-turned.

Just speculation that does not involve an actual bus.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: littlewop on May 03, 2009, 06:31:13 PM
My thoughts on "No More Mr. Nice Guy".

The four teams are going to bunch up in the morning beacuse of an HOO.

C/J and M/L are going to look to Tammy and Victor for help on the leg.  Somewhere along the leg T/V are going to ditch their friends.  Hence, No More Mr. Nice Guy. 

T/V are going to dominate this leg so much they are going to eventually leave China hours before the other teams. ( and no, that doesn't necessarily mean they arrive at the final destination airport earler)

Hmmm.  I like your thinking.

Here is a different twist on the "thrown under the bus" theme.  Of the 4 remaining teams, which ones are portrayed as the better friends?  I sayMargie & Luke with Jamie & Cara.  If throwing one under the bus involves good friends (I sacrifice you to save me) then Jamie & Cara yield Margie & Luke.

And the reason we see Margie & Luke with Keisa & Jen is that M&L are starting their second Detour as a result of being U-turned.

Just speculation that does not involve an actual bus.

That would work, but if there is an equalizer as expected, due to no flights and them still racing during the day, would Margie & Luke be that far ahead of Kisha & Jen at that point?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: redskevin88 on May 03, 2009, 08:02:49 PM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:

I got a spoiler right   :yess: you guys owe me an apology!!!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on May 03, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:

I got a spoiler right   :yess: you guys owe me an apology!!!!

But the thing is, it is also clear that T/V saw the U-TURN, saw it empty and chose not to U-TURN as well. It was just a mere guess from you isn't it?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 08:55:08 PM
Look closely in the preview, it is clear that t/v saw the u-turn, saw it empty, and decide to u-turn somebody... but who?  :wohoo:

I got a spoiler right   :yess: you guys owe me an apology!!!!
Lucky guess because the screencaps you referred to had nothing to do with the U-Turn, it was T/V at the pitstop first with Phil telling them they were team #1 not them using the U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 08:59:17 PM
I was SO close  :lol:

Besides the Olympic knot in the fence,,, well this is the only thing I could find that might tie the pit stop in with the Olympics but for all I know this is the Beijing guard universal winter uniform  :lol:
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from the web ..
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Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 10:09:16 PM
The clue at the virtual pitstop said
"find out who wrote the enclosed poem "Femme Noir"
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 10:12:24 PM
???

Leopold Sédar Senghor. Senegal (1906-2001).

http://web.uflib.ufl.edu/cm/africana/senghor.htm
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 10:17:10 PM
more
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 10:21:36 PM
when describing the detour options they sort of gave away which team was U-Turned
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 10:27:41 PM
more
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 10:38:33 PM
 :lol: I guess they had nothing else to show?

The Amazing Race 6, Episode 4
Stockholm (Sweden) - Dakar (Senegal) - Kayar (Senegal) - Lac Rose (Senegal) - Gorée Island (Senegal)

En route to Africa this week, the producers of The Amazing Race start off with an enormous editing gaffe: a product placement photograph of an American Airlines plane. Memo to CBS television (and American travellers to Africa): No airline based in the USA flies to anywhere in Africa, although several attempt to mislead travellers into thinking they do by putting their flight numbers on codeshare flights to Africa actually operated by European or (in fewer cases) African airlines.

But the producers rapidly recover by making the racers' first task in an unfamiliar continent something that should be recommended, if not required, for all foreign tourists, if they haven't done it before they arrive: familiarize yourself with the key people and concepts of local history and the local worldview by reading at least one book by an influential local writer.

In Senegal, that's especially easy, since the most important person in national history is also the most famous literary figure of the region: Léopold Sédar Senghor .

Like Nehru, his contemporary in India, Senghor may be more significant today for his literary, intellectual, and ideological legacy than for his track record as the first president of his native country. At the airport in Dakar, the racers are given a copy of one of Senghor's most famous poems, "Femme noire", and told to identify the author and make their way to his grave. At the cemetery, next to a surprisingly modest monument to a hero who might have been expected to become the focus of a personality cult like those of some other post-independence political leaders, the racers each receive a copy of one of Senghor's books along with their next clue.

http://www.hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/000496.html
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on May 03, 2009, 11:04:29 PM
 :funny: Then whose hand was that? :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Pedaler on May 03, 2009, 11:06:31 PM
Is there any one here who would not have peed in their pants?  You're talking about a million dollars.  Plus wasn't Jen still in those Chinese robes?   :groan:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 03, 2009, 11:06:52 PM
Gus? Hera? .... glad they stamped Luke & Marge over the route info though so I know I wasn't seeing things.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on May 03, 2009, 11:08:41 PM
I'm still waiting for a Kisha and Jen interview to tell us exactly how far were they behind. If they were behind by a mere minute, i guess Jen will start holding her pee from now onwards for LONG. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Slowhatch on May 03, 2009, 11:23:45 PM
I'm guessing there was an enforced time-out, probably to ensure some safety (daylight hours) with the bikes. C/J hit the pool at 9:30, so most teams probably hit the phantom mat before midnight. And judging by their expressions (and the cabs still waiting), they probably knew (or guessed) that it was a TBC.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ashe on May 04, 2009, 12:09:54 AM
An episode that was exciting down to the last second.  I really thought Jaime & Cara were toast, and that Jen's pee break was misdirection, but hey!  Look at that!  It did kill them!

The Detour?  Would've done Beijing Opera, for sure.  Chinese Waiter looked way too hard if you weren't Chinese.  Tammy & Victor had an advantage there that was bordering on unfair.  As for the Roadblock, of course I'd have done it instead of my partner.

Tammy & Victor: I don't think they really owned this leg so much as got lucky to find a cab right off the bat.  Oh, and find the U-Turn right away.  But they did their tasks well enough, so good on them.  They seem to stand the best chance at winning.  I'd only be happy for Tammy if they won, but Victor still grates on me.

Margie & Luke: Other than their brain-fart in searching for the U-Turn, they ran a pretty good leg tonight.  Margie was kind of annoying at the Beijing Opera Detour, but she made up for it in spades at the Roadblock, so good on her.  They also deserve their place in the F3, and the editing seems to hint at things coming down between them and Tammy & Victor, though Jaime & Cara seem in it, as well.

Jaime & Cara: By all rights, even though a lot of it was from bad taxi luck, they should've been the ones booted.  But honestly, after seeing Cara own up to being the reason they went well out of their way of the U-Turn, and then seeing her try to make up for it by owning the Roadblock, I wanted them to stay.  So I'm glad they did.  But yeah, it looks like Jaime's taxi karma is going to come right back to bite her in the ass next week, even though it already started to this week.  That said, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't win because of it.  It could be a misdirection.  The editors obviously left Phil saying they had the chance to be the first winning women's team for a reason.

Kisha & Jen: Well done, ladies.  You had the chance to be the first team ever to successfully overcome a U-Turn, but Jen literally went and pissed it all away.  So yeah, Jen, it is all on you.  I'm glad Kisha's gonna let her live it down, though.

LOVE: Tammy, Margie/Luke/Jaime/Cara
LIKE: No one
NEUTRAL: No one
DISLIKE: Victor
HATE: No one

Next week should be an exciting finale, for sure.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on May 04, 2009, 12:19:50 AM

Jaime & Cara: By all rights, even though a lot of it was from bad taxi luck, they should've been the ones booted.  But honestly, after seeing Cara own up to being the reason they went well out of their way of the U-Turn, and then seeing her try to make up for it by owning the Roadblock, I wanted them to stay.  So I'm glad they did.  But yeah, it looks like Jaime's taxi karma is going to come right back to bite her in the ass next week, even though it already started to this week.  That said, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't win because of it.  It could be a misdirection.  The editors obviously left Phil saying they had the chance to be the first winning women's team for a reason.


I'm pretty sure Phil said the same thing to Dustin and Kandace, Charla & Mirna to name a few female teams.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Jobby on May 04, 2009, 12:24:58 AM

Jaime & Cara: By all rights, even though a lot of it was from bad taxi luck, they should've been the ones booted.  But honestly, after seeing Cara own up to being the reason they went well out of their way of the U-Turn, and then seeing her try to make up for it by owning the Roadblock, I wanted them to stay.  So I'm glad they did.  But yeah, it looks like Jaime's taxi karma is going to come right back to bite her in the ass next week, even though it already started to this week.  That said, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't win because of it.  It could be a misdirection.  The editors obviously left Phil saying they had the chance to be the first winning women's team for a reason.


I'm pretty sure Phil said the same thing to Dustin and Kandace, Charla & Mirna to name a few female teams.

And Lyn and Karlyn. :funny: Maybe Phil said that knowing that Cara and Jaime would most probably be left behind and come in third.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: scruffs on May 04, 2009, 02:11:00 AM
that pee cost them a million dollars.... :funny:

i was just thinking, if kisha and jen went first to the mat before the restroom:

Phil: Kisha and Jen you are the third team to arrive, congratulations...

Kisha: (interrupts Phil) Phil, will you hold it for a second Jen just needs to the restroom... we just check in so that we are sure to be on the final three...

Jen: sorry Phil, just reserve the script after I go to the restroom...

that would be hilarious...... :lol3: :lol3:

or another scenario would be...

Phil: Kisha and Jen you are the third team to arrive, congratulations...(sniffs) what's that smell? It's like pee...

Kisha: sorry Phil, Jen pee onto herself on our way here, just ignore the smell...

Jen: (very shy) sorry Phil, i will just change after you check us in....

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: apskip on May 04, 2009, 09:17:07 AM
eta: No flights/airport scramble to look forward to hate!
Or feeling sad from missing any flight/airport/reservations action.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ruth on May 04, 2009, 11:37:53 AM
Exciting leg indeed! Like Ashe, I half thought Jaime and Cara would have been eliminated. Glad they stayed, but at the same time sad that Kisha and Jen got the boot.

Tammy and Victor - Pretty amazed at how speedy they ran the leg. Their ability to speak Chinese did help them a lot this episode I guess. For one, they must have finished the Detour really quickly. Very happy they made the final three but I doubt they'll win.

Margie and Luke - Wow, this must be the first time we see them so angry at each other, during the Detour. They normally work rather well together, was surprised to see that little bicker. But after all, Luke is a guy and Margie should probably be worried if he could put make-up really well.

Jaime and Cara - I thought they'd be eliminated when they got lost for so long, completing the Roadblock and Detour in last. For once they got an awesome cab driver, that probably helped a lot. And it's great, usually the leading team will end up at the pit-stop first but this time, Kisha and Jen who were leading, fell behind Jaime and Cara. I'm happy that Jaime and Cara survived.

Kisha and Jen - These are amazing girls! I thought they'd be seriously toast having been U-turned but they actually completed the Roadblock ahead of Jaime and Cara. We gotta give them props for that, I really think it's wonderful. And their attitude was rather peaceful too, I thought they took the whole thing really well. While I'm glad that Jaime and Cara survived over them, I'm still sad over their elimination. These girls have got a fighting spirit and we've seen them, from the bickering sisters to the loving sisters. They have loads to be proud of! (And I sure hope the time taken to pee wasn't the factor that cost them the race, Jen is never gonna forgive herself).

This must be the best final three ever! Love all three teams, don't mind who wins, and don't know who wins! It's gonna be a very, very exciting finale. Can't wait!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Belle Book on May 04, 2009, 03:59:02 PM
Here's my take on the teams:

Tammy & Victor:  Great job this leg!  You really smoked the leg, thanks in large part to your language skills.  I think it was the right idea to U-Turn LaKisha & Jen, for the reasons you stated.  You're a real threat to win, and I'd be pleased if you did.

Margie & Luke:  Better this leg, except that you still were mad at LaKisha & Jen!  You also should've told Cara & Jamie to head back to the opera place -- but maybe you couldn't see them.

Cara & Jaime:  What a leg!  You really should buy dictionaries -- it might help with the languages!  I really thought you might be out with all your problems, but fortune smiled on you at the last moment and helped you pull out a third-place finish.

LaKisha & Jen:  Your need to go to the bathroom may have been the precipitating factor in your and your sister's exit, Jen, but it was the U-Turn that really ruined your chances.  Had Tammy & Victor not U-Turned you, you would still be in the Race.  Oh well.

Really Like:  Tammy & Victor, Cara
Like:  Jaime, Margie & Luke
Neutral:  No one.
Dislike:  No one.
Hate:  No one.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ashe on May 04, 2009, 11:20:04 PM

Jaime & Cara: By all rights, even though a lot of it was from bad taxi luck, they should've been the ones booted.  But honestly, after seeing Cara own up to being the reason they went well out of their way of the U-Turn, and then seeing her try to make up for it by owning the Roadblock, I wanted them to stay.  So I'm glad they did.  But yeah, it looks like Jaime's taxi karma is going to come right back to bite her in the ass next week, even though it already started to this week.  That said, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't win because of it.  It could be a misdirection.  The editors obviously left Phil saying they had the chance to be the first winning women's team for a reason.


I'm pretty sure Phil said the same thing to Dustin and Kandace, Charla & Mirna to name a few female teams.

And Lyn and Karlyn. :funny: Maybe Phil said that knowing that Cara and Jaime would most probably be left behind and come in third.
Yeah, probably.  But then, they left in Mark & Michael being told about their time deficit after their four-hour penalty.  They wouldn't have needed to keep it in if they'd managed to catch up at a bunching point.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Belle Book on May 05, 2009, 03:40:58 PM

Jaime & Cara: By all rights, even though a lot of it was from bad taxi luck, they should've been the ones booted.  But honestly, after seeing Cara own up to being the reason they went well out of their way of the U-Turn, and then seeing her try to make up for it by owning the Roadblock, I wanted them to stay.  So I'm glad they did.  But yeah, it looks like Jaime's taxi karma is going to come right back to bite her in the ass next week, even though it already started to this week.  That said, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't win because of it.  It could be a misdirection.  The editors obviously left Phil saying they had the chance to be the first winning women's team for a reason.


I'm pretty sure Phil said the same thing to Dustin and Kandace, Charla & Mirna to name a few female teams.

And Lyn and Karlyn. :funny: Maybe Phil said that knowing that Cara and Jaime would most probably be left behind and come in third.

True enough, but in those seasons didn't the all-female teams talk about wanting to be the first all-female team ever to win the Race a lot?  If that's harped on, it's a good sign that the team in question won't be the first all-female team ever to win.  With Cara & Jamie -- no mention of it until Phil tells them.  That means they might just pull it off!

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Ray! on May 06, 2009, 12:02:12 AM

Jaime & Cara: By all rights, even though a lot of it was from bad taxi luck, they should've been the ones booted.  But honestly, after seeing Cara own up to being the reason they went well out of their way of the U-Turn, and then seeing her try to make up for it by owning the Roadblock, I wanted them to stay.  So I'm glad they did.  But yeah, it looks like Jaime's taxi karma is going to come right back to bite her in the ass next week, even though it already started to this week.  That said, that doesn't necessarily mean they won't win because of it.  It could be a misdirection.  The editors obviously left Phil saying they had the chance to be the first winning women's team for a reason.


I'm pretty sure Phil said the same thing to Dustin and Kandace, Charla & Mirna to name a few female teams.

And Lyn and Karlyn. :funny: Maybe Phil said that knowing that Cara and Jaime would most probably be left behind and come in third.

True enough, but in those seasons didn't the all-female teams talk about wanting to be the first all-female team ever to win the Race a lot?  If that's harped on, it's a good sign that the team in question won't be the first all-female team ever to win.  With Cara & Jamie -- no mention of it until Phil tells them.  That means they might just pull it off!

Belle Book


From what I know, Lyn/Karlyn also started talking about it when they made it to the Final 3. Before that, it was just that there is some higher power keeping 'em in it despite having no leg wins yet. Having said that, I think Jaime/Cara go in 3rd. (This was the same way Dandrew & the Lyns were edited - and oddly, they didn't win any legs either :lol: - FWIW, different from how Eric/Danielle were edited.)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: apskip on May 06, 2009, 08:46:03 AM
Kisha and Jen in interviews conducted with several sources say that Phil used a bit of hyperbole in claiming that they finished only "seconds behind". I guess that is true if your definition of "seconds behind" includes 180 seconds. An hour behind is only 3600 seconds behind. The fact is that the toilet incident was over-hyped. The real reason that Kisha/Jen lost was it took them longer to find the pit stop even though they arrived ahead. Call it good taxi driver karma for Jaime/Cara that they were dropped off at a closer point to where the pit stop proved to be. That proved to be the decisive margin of victory for them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Pedaler on May 14, 2009, 10:22:29 PM
Did anyone ever find out the Beijing rock garden where the racer interviewers were conducted?
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2009, 10:25:50 PM
I am promised more info later, but I was told that it was in a hotel garden, not in a park or anything....
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: :jerry: on July 14, 2009, 10:38:39 AM
Ummm...I know you guys havn't posted in this topic for a while but here the thing anyway
Twp days ago, I visited the bird's nest, trying to look for the pit stop,
what I know about the pit stop is that it's surrounded by little white fences :groan:
and from Phil's point of view, you can see a pond or a lake
and the mat is placed on sturdy road.

Well I couldn't find it because I found the pondish thing but when I found the perfect angle, i was standing in the middle of a drive way to a parking lot!

So I went around the bird's nest again and again and I couldn't find a better spot.

So I was wondering if the Beijing gov rearranged the things around the birds nest, or
the producer's edited the scene...just wondering...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DeafRacer on July 14, 2009, 10:24:04 PM
Haha, I knew where it is at exactly and the pit stop wasn't on driveway for sure!! If anyone have some kind of map like google earth map of that area, I can pinpoint it for you guys.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: David on July 15, 2009, 08:19:37 PM
Hi Luke! I had never been here before and I never talked directly to a racer! I'm so grateful you're here! I didn't like you at the beggining, but I started to like you as a racer, and I felt that you had to win. You deserved it more than Tammy & Victor, because of your handicap. I really thought you could do it, and the Final was great due to that the three teams were the "allied teams". Also, you often placed 1st of 4th, and as you couldn't be 4th in the Final, you had to be 1st!! What happened with those surfboards??

Finally, here's your request. The map you wanted. I hope it serves.

(http://i29.[banned image hosting site].com/11jb19u.jpg)

I hope we can talk more often, and I'm so moved!

PS: Do you know if non-Northamerican people can join the race?  Well, thanks for your time, and of having talked to you for the first time!!  :hearts: :jumpy: :yess: :hugs:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on July 27, 2009, 09:35:42 AM
Thanks Jerry and David!  Sorry I missed this before, hope Luke comes and fills us in!

And no David...sadly only US passport holders can apply.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DeafRacer on July 30, 2009, 01:28:36 PM
I drew it on the map but I am not sure how to attach it and post it on here?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Cocoa on July 30, 2009, 06:27:27 PM
I drew it on the map but I am not sure how to attach it and post it on here?

Hello Luke!  :waves:

In the link below you'll see how to post attachments:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,12375.0.html
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on July 30, 2009, 06:34:21 PM
or you could email it to me Luke and I'll gladly do it for you  :waves:


realityfanforum@epix.net
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DeafRacer on July 31, 2009, 02:30:19 PM
I hope it works!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DeafRacer on July 31, 2009, 02:34:45 PM
Yes! It works! Excellent.  The yellow circle was the place where my mom and I got dropped off at.   The red circle = the pit stop. It took us like ten minutes to find the pit stop. I was TOTALLY convinced that the pit stop must be inside of the stadium!!! Even, I tried to buy tickets to get in the stadium but Mom wouldn't let me to. Mom thinks the pit stop was outside of the stadium. The only one reason I thought it was in the stadium because there was SO many people around and I was like there's no way that production people would want to risk the exposure of the Final Three teams in the public. The clue we got was VERY vague. It only said, "Bird Nest."  It doesn't says where it is at exactly so we were lucky enough that we got dropped off pretty close to the pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: puddin on July 31, 2009, 04:03:44 PM
Good job Luke  :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: tigellinus on August 01, 2009, 10:33:33 AM
And I believe based on the way Jaime was describing it to me, she and Cara got dropped off at the black circle, T/V got dropped off at the blue and K/J at the orange...or maybe I have T/V's and K/J's reversed?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: georgiapeach on August 01, 2009, 11:30:22 AM
Thank you Luke!!

Victor and Tammy  were also dropped off the same place as Luke was, in the yellow circle.

I love that after three whole seasons :lol:  of getting Bird's Nest Stadium spoilers that it finally came true!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: carcdm on August 08, 2009, 02:09:27 PM
great season.. i'd really like if margie and luke win though
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: DeafRacer on August 11, 2009, 08:33:17 AM
great season.. i'd really like if margie and luke win though

Aww thanks! I wish we win too! I just wish that the last picture was designed much better   like if starfish was included then I would have known it was the final surfboard puzzle piece.

But now I'm WAY beyond excited about TAR 15!! I already know who I am going to root for :-)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: spanishtarfan on August 13, 2009, 10:12:00 AM
great season.. i'd really like if margie and luke win though

Aww thanks! I wish we win too! I just wish that the last picture was designed much better   like if starfish was included then I would have known it was the final surfboard puzzle piece.

But now I'm WAY beyond excited about TAR 15!! I already know who I am going to root for :-)

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Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: :jerry: on August 16, 2009, 02:59:47 AM
Thanks Luke!
I just realized I missed the pit stop when I was looking for it!

Not to get off topic, but did any of the staff told you about another allstars??
Just curious!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP11:'He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper'/'No More Mr. Nice Guy'
Post by: Neobie on September 08, 2009, 02:58:16 AM
Was in Beijing for a little while... Thanks Luke for saving me some running around at the Bird's Nest! :jam:

One little thing of note: the NW corner of the Forbidden City is a 5-min walk from the East Gate of Beihai Park, or even less if you run. I think all teams took taxis on this one, and Jaime/Cara had quite a bit of taxi trouble here? It's a pretty silly waste of time and money if only teams had some idea of where they were going...

The stall-owners at Beihai Park are holding up their part of the bargain pretty well, they're giving very non-commital "I don't know" replies when I ask about the race... :lol: But of course there's that little wink that they give to you!