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Title: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 11, 2009, 02:45:39 AM
saved and thanks to Kogs for the title
clues:
Next On The Amazing Race
Having a Baby's Gotta Be Easier Than This (China) Cara for the title
 

*AN OLYMPIC CHALLENGE LEAVES ONE RACER PARALYZED WITH FEAR AND THE TEAM'S FUTURE IN JEOPARDY,
An Olympic task leaves racers gasping for breath
**One racer is paralyzed with fear-after coming this far, will they choose to go home?
***In an Olympic-themed task in Beijing, Teams swim the same distance that Michael Phelps swam in the 400 meter individual medley,

*..WHILE A GRUDGE BETWEEN TWO TEAMS CONTINUES TO LINGER
** Animosity grows as two teams continue to hold a grudge against each other.
***and two Teams continue to hold a grudge against each other


* A Chinese foot massage puts racers through more pain than pleasure. 

 



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Task/ Detour?
*AN OLYMPIC CHALLENGE LEAVES ONE RACER PARALYZED WITH FEAR AND THE TEAM'S FUTURE IN JEOPARDY,
An Olympic task leaves racers gasping for breath
**One racer is paralyzed with fear-after coming this far, will they choose to go home?
***In an Olympic-themed task in Beijing, Teams swim the same distance that Michael Phelps swam in the 400 meter individual medley,

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  Roadblock
* A Chinese foot massage puts racers through more pain than pleasure. 


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Title: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Kogs on April 11, 2009, 11:32:44 PM
Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)

Airs 4/26
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 11, 2009, 11:43:55 PM
Margie says this title? She's the only mother in the race? But heck, who knows? I like it how teams are tested so much in China!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 11, 2009, 11:57:20 PM
Ah!  I was wondering when the next episode title would come up!

I think Jaime or Cara says it (or maybe Kisha or Jen, if they make it to the F4, when this leg will obviously take place).  Margie would already know since she actually has had a baby.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Coutzy on April 12, 2009, 12:22:15 AM
Sounds like a Margie quote to me.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on April 12, 2009, 12:46:54 AM
Gotta be her. Luke didnt. Kisha and Jen, Jaime and Cara and Tammy and Victor are to young. Couldnt be Mark and Mike cause they are men! MARGIE!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DavidJunior on April 12, 2009, 12:51:24 AM
i believe the title is having a baby's gotta be easier than this

if it was margie who said it, i think it'd be more along the lines of "having a baby's easier than this"

it seems it was being told from the viewpoint of someone who hasn't gone through that yet

i.e. pretty much everyone besides Margie (including Mark/Michael if they make it this far...)

i don't think it's her, but i do think its another girl who gives this quote
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on April 12, 2009, 12:59:12 AM
having a baby's easier than this? She is saying its gotta be easier than this. She isnt saying the opposite! I see were you are coming from but I dont know>
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: ready2rock on April 12, 2009, 01:10:48 AM
Hmmm...imo...i guess it has to be ladies other than margie bcoz if had been margie then the quote wud had been Having a baby is easier than this as gotta to be easier means said by someone who has still not experienced it... :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 12, 2009, 02:04:33 AM
Or maybe someone is talking about Communist China's One Child Policy! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Coutzy on April 12, 2009, 02:35:48 AM
Could it have been one of the men, maybe along the lines of:

Woman: If I could give birth, than you can do this.

Man: Having a baby's gotta be easier than this.

Kind of a man whinging about how his female partner has no idea how hard what he's doing is??? Just throwing the first curveball out there.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Dånooky on April 12, 2009, 06:44:45 PM
Victor says it, hands down! :P
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 12, 2009, 08:01:49 PM
Victor says it, hands down! :P

Epic laughable quote! Haha
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 12, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
Victor says it, hands down! :P

Epic laughable quote! Haha
Maybe Victor had a baby in a past life!!! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 12, 2009, 08:46:48 PM
So hmmm.....just what is they are trying to push out?? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 12, 2009, 08:47:30 PM
So hmmm.....just what is they are trying to push out?? :lol3:
Kidney stone? Gallstone? Emu bird egg? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: :jerry: on April 12, 2009, 09:19:12 PM
Something related to PUSHING huge stones on the Great Wall? (come to think of it, NO)
Or its just something not related to pushing, lots of stuff is harder than having a baby...
Im guessing eating something(TAR1,Beijing) or trasporting something(TAR6,ShangHai bricks)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 13, 2009, 03:47:11 AM
Something related to PUSHING huge stones on the Great Wall? (come to think of it, NO)
Or its just something not related to pushing, lots of stuff is harder than having a baby...
Im guessing eating something(TAR1,Beijing) or trasporting something(TAR6,ShangHai bricks)

I believe every woman who gave birth to a child would say that having a baby is the hardest thing they ever got to do.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Kogs on April 19, 2009, 07:59:06 PM
cara for the title per the preview
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DrRox on April 19, 2009, 08:00:36 PM
It sure must be a tough foot massage.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 19, 2009, 08:00:46 PM
I think Jen says the title... and yay for Chinese therapeutic massage! Hope that the roadblock for the penultimate leg would be accupuncture!  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Kogs on April 19, 2009, 08:01:43 PM
I think Jen says the title... and yay for Chinese therapeutic massage! Hope that the roadblock for the penultimate leg would be accupuncture!  :funny:

watch the preview again cara saids the title
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2009, 08:02:27 PM
these belong here I take it ..

Gman: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg367468.html#msg367468) According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing



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Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 19, 2009, 08:04:12 PM
I think Jen says the title... and yay for Chinese therapeutic massage! Hope that the roadblock for the penultimate leg would be accupuncture!  :funny:

watch the preview again cara saids the title

Oh! I didn't hear it  :funny: Sorry! I'll watch it again... Yay for women racer's quotes!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 19, 2009, 08:08:01 PM
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:

But poor Jen....   :'(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Kogs on April 19, 2009, 08:12:32 PM
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:

But poor Jen....   :'(

karma karma karma for her
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2009, 08:12:51 PM
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:

But poor Jen....   :'(
I'd put money on this being a NEL.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2009, 08:15:33 PM


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Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DrRox on April 19, 2009, 08:20:01 PM
Finally, we get to see Cara lose control and start screaming.......lol  She is not so calm and self-composed after all.


(Note:This is said very tongue in cheek. I have lots of sympathy for her.)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 19, 2009, 08:23:36 PM
 :hearts: at Cara screaming in terror because of a foot massage
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 19, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
I know the Chinese foot massage. This is not like the tender loving foot massage. This is grinding, rolling of the foot, knuckles to the ball of your foot massage and its very tough.

And damned funny, btw.  :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Boingo on April 19, 2009, 08:46:38 PM
FWIW, looks like racers are at a "practice pool", and probably not at the Beijing National Aquatics Center (as far as I can tell).   ;D
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: eragon on April 19, 2009, 08:53:04 PM
I think the detour choices are the swimming task (Beijing National Aquatics Center) and some track and field events (Bird's Nest Stadium)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2009, 08:59:04 PM
video

 << HD option when the video fully renders
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: patlini on April 19, 2009, 09:03:08 PM
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:

But poor Jen....   :'(

karma karma karma for her

agreed - really not feeling pity for her here
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 19, 2009, 09:07:02 PM
I'm quite wondering in the previews... WHERE THE HELL IS TAMMY AND VICTOR???  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: goodyingbadyang on April 19, 2009, 09:38:53 PM
lololololol karma for being the victim of an enraged deaf guy?
karma for being almost elbowed in the face?
karma for being pushed into the cluebox?

I thought it was clear who was truly at fault in that situation (and the editors seemed to agree with the constant flashback every time M/L talked to tell their side to prove otherwise)

kk, back to spoiler...

Cara must be doing the massage with another roadblocker. With her over-the-top reactions to her little bit of dialogue I think its safe to say she's talking to someone other than the cameraman. I don't think the other team member is in the same room and Kisha + Luke have been shown going through the massage with no one else in the room.

That should leave Jaimie/Cara and Victor/Tammy in the same time frame for the massage if all this speculating is correct :\

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2009, 10:26:51 PM
I'm wondering if Jen can't complete if they opt to take a penalty .. that's if its a NEL which makes sense unless of course they make leg 11&12 back to back continuation like a TBC but the CBS race map shows 2 pit stops in Beijing so who knows.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: eragon on April 19, 2009, 11:04:40 PM
I'm wondering if Jen can't complete if they opt to take a penalty .. that's if its a NEL which makes sense unless of course they make leg 11&12 back to back continuation like a TBC but the CBS race map shows 2 pit stops in Beijing so who knows.

if they choose to quit, they will be assessed a 24-hr penalty... because it's a detour.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 19, 2009, 11:13:46 PM
clues:

Next On The Amazing Race
Having a Baby's Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
An Olympic task leaves racers gasping for breath. Animosity grows as two teams continue to hold a grudge against each other. One racer is paralyzed with fear-after coming this far, will they choose to go home? A Chinese foot massage puts racers through more pain than pleasure.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 19, 2009, 11:51:12 PM
I'm quite wondering in the previews... WHERE THE HELL IS TAMMY AND VICTOR???  (:;)
Tammy was right there in the preview.  Didn't you see her?  She's also in one of the pictures shown above.  Unless that's actually one of the masseuses.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: hakushu8 on April 19, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:

But poor Jen....   :'(

karma karma karma for her

agreed - really not feeling pity for her here
LAWL so much on these comments. Daaahhh Bob got what he deserved.

If the swimming task is indeed a Detour, why don't they just go to the other one? I'm pretty sure they won't flat out quit. Unless... the other detour option can't be done anymore because of the hours of operation dealio (like the Russian metro detour last season or one of the 2nd Egypt detours of TAR5). That scenario sucks.

And the foot massage is a RB? Nice way to reuse a task, I think ("foot massage" detour in TAR12's Taiwan).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: funghk on April 20, 2009, 02:04:00 AM
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:

But poor Jen....   :'(

karma karma karma for her

agreed - really not feeling pity for her here

Please also put me in the list for not feeling pity for Jen

I'm new here, actually not very new. I have been here for cycles but I have just registered here.
Hello everyone! :waves: :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: makz3d on April 20, 2009, 05:01:04 AM
TPTB are not showing the water detour in the preview with K/J in the correct order.

Jen shown with goggles and life vest.
Jen shown swimming with neither item.
Jen and Kisha are talking in corridor without life vest.
Jen and Kisha are doing the detour, both wearing life vests.

I think K/J started the task and Jen freaked.  They discuss water phobia and then life vest were furnished and task completed.  No big deal and no major delay.  K/J are alone.  It seems with Jen's water phobia they would have done the other task.  Wonder why they didn't.

It appears task is like a relay where 1 member has to get to the other side of pool and back however they can while in the water and then the 2nd member jumps or dives in to do the same thing.  Jen probably dog paddled for her 2 lengths of the pool.

Edited to fix format mess up.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on April 20, 2009, 06:43:52 AM
I am beginning to suspect that this is not a Detour task, because Kisha & Jen would not choose it, unless, as mentioned earlier, the other choice was not available because of Hours Of Operation. It could be a General Task, needed to complete by all teams and both team members.

Unless the second Detour option is running a lap in the Bird's Nest naked, then I don't see how this could be a Detour.

I can really understand what Jen is going through, unable to swim myself! :swim :hosed
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: eragon on April 20, 2009, 07:50:51 AM
Cara must be doing the massage with another roadblocker. With her over-the-top reactions to her little bit of dialogue I think its safe to say she's talking to someone other than the cameraman. I don't think the other team member is in the same room and Kisha + Luke have been shown going through the massage with no one else in the room.


look at this picture...

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There's a shadow beside Cara... could be another team??

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 08:12:53 AM
 :lol: Here are some places to go for foot massage in Beijing (http://www.at0086.com/at_News%5C296%5C596303968853315.html) 

 :funny:  BTW, the most painful style of Chinese foot massage is called Reflexology (http://www.beijingscene.com/V05I016/feature/feature.htm)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: BayBay on April 20, 2009, 08:29:10 AM
GOT IT!  :jumpy:

THEORY ONE -

The anticipated 'Olympic Themed Task' is the detour for this leg.
1. Swimming
2. ?? Athletics?

J/K get u-turned by T/V because they think it was really rude to laugh at Luke. They do
other one but are forced to do swimming one because they are u-turned.

THEORY TWO -

T/V take fast forward. Explains absence from preview. Swimming is a misc. task??

THEORY THREE -

T/V are super behind or ahead. Either they or J/C u-turn K/J.

P.S. I HOPE K/J GET ELIMINATED. THEY ARE SO RUDE AND INSENSITIVE. AS MARGIE SAID THEY
ARE BLACK AND KNOW HOW IT SHOULD FEELS TO BE LAUGHED AT ETC.

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 20, 2009, 08:35:17 AM
Baydogg,

that's not right.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Dånooky on April 20, 2009, 08:43:34 AM
Now that I think about it, if the swimming was a detour option, K/J being U-Turned makes complete sense
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
 :sucks  looks like a match on the chairs and table at this similar foot massage chain in Beijing.

...I believe we're talking upscale establishment, given the decor and uniformed personnel
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 20, 2009, 09:21:34 AM
Great find, Boingo!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 09:25:05 AM
 :sucks  FWIW, the decor of the Liangzi Foot Massage chain in Beijing seems to match the racers location.  ;D

At the southeast of Jianguomen Bridge, there is a Liangzi Foot Message Branch. Liangzi is a foot massage chain that possesses more than five hundred branches in China. The brand Liangzi means sons and daughters from decent families make money with clear conscience by good medicine, superior technique and quality service.

According to ancient Chinese medicine record, China has a foot massage history of 5,000 years. A man’s feet just like the root of a tree. Root failed before a tree withers, and feet failed before a man ages. Therefore, as the second heart of a human being, feet exert an vital influence on a person’s health.

This Liangzi Foot Massage Branch comprises two floors underground, including 68 foot massage rooms in Chinese, European and Japanese styles. Female receptionists will greet you warmly and show you the way. A foot massage, which costs RMB 138, will take you some 90 minutes during which your ‘second heart’ will be soaked in hot water emitting aroma of Chinese medicine in a wooden basin for 20 minutes, then a well-trained attendant will show her normative massage techniques, surely will you get a wonderful experience. The process will eliminate your weariness, kill germs, ease pain, prevent you from skin diseases of foot, stimulate metabolism and strengthen immunologic function. You will feel very relaxed after that. If you take a whole body massage, it will take you about 60 minutes and RMB 168.


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Post by: Slowhatch on April 20, 2009, 09:40:14 AM
It's a chain store (http://en.liangzi.com.cn/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/ProgramShowLzfd.html?ProgramShow_ProgramID=c373e9134c004ef48ffaef05b4090b1a) for pediluvium (my new word for the day); Jianguomen is described as their flagship store (map (http://en.liangzi.com.cn/newEbiz1/en100liangzires/images/pic/map_jgm.jpg)).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 10:15:05 AM
  :lol: ...oh, let's pile on, because we can....  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: 2old4tech on April 20, 2009, 10:21:28 AM
I usually don't post any spec.  The rest of you are always way out in front of me; and better, too.

But look at the beverages in Boingo's comparative photos above.  In the stock photo: cold beverages.  In the Race screencap: cups and mugs (coffee? tea?).  Does this indicate an A.M. task?  At least for K/J.  :duno:
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2009, 10:40:05 AM
Good job as always Boingo and Slowhatch!!
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Post by: FLFan on April 20, 2009, 10:51:09 AM
I usually don't post any spec.  The rest of you are always way out in front of me; and better, too.

But look at the beverages in Boingo's comparative photos above.  In the stock photo: cold beverages.  In the Race screencap: cups and mugs (coffee? tea?).  Does this indicate an A.M. task?  At least for K/J.  :duno:

Good catch!  However, could the choice of beverages just be the difference between a summer vacation photo and a TAR 14 in winter?  Instead of an AM vs PM activity.  Remember, we keep seeing them in jackets, vests, sweaters, or pullovers, so they seem to be always a little cold.
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Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
 ;D  Just throwing this out there... not saying it's a match or anything...BUT!!!!

the roofline does look similar at this pool ...and the description below says it was used as a practice pool for the Olympics...   :duno: 

In order to provide adequate training facilities for the Chinese National Aquatics Team, the General Sports Administration of China and the Beijing Organizing Committee for 2008 Olympic Games (BOCOG) decided to revamp the MuXiYuan Sports Academy and make it their main aquatics training base....
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2009, 11:13:17 AM
Your being way to humble Boingo .. it looks like a match to me!
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Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 11:23:51 AM
Your being way to humble Boingo .. it looks like a match to me!

just cautious...not much else matches the preview... could be similar architecture in Beijing... but probably connected with a university of some kind, if not this one...   ;D
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Post by: Neobie on April 20, 2009, 11:57:53 AM
Awesome work! And I thought both the reflexology parlour and the swimming pool were hopeless!

Here's (http://www.bjsports.gov.cn/share/NewsContent.jsp?catName=public_active&colName=news&docId=13391) the Guangcai Sports Complex (光彩体育馆) in Muxiyuan, training ground for the Beijing swimming and synchronized swimming teams.

Address: 2 Guangcai Rd N, Fengtai District, on the south side of town.
Oh I love Edushi's graphics (http://beijing.edushi.com/?oid=30676).

(http://www.bjsports.gov.cn/news/ShowInfoImg.jsp?docId=17171) (http://www.bjsports.gov.cn/news/ShowInfoImg.jsp?docId=17171) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0046.jpg)
Curved roof with blue bands matches, but it certainly had a facelift...

(My mum lost it when she saw the preview - she does the exact same expression as Cara when she goes for her foot massage in China!)
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Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 12:53:55 PM
 :tup:  Nice one on the location, Neobie.  ...facelift doesn't describe it, lol...... it had a major makeover....  :res:
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on April 20, 2009, 01:19:06 PM
This building for the swimming complex?

Note the 6 notches on the top...
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Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 01:57:03 PM
This building for the swimming complex?

Note the 6 notches on the top...

 ....not sure about that, but Neobie's sports complex is right next door...  ;D   this is fun!!!!  :sucks
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2009, 02:07:03 PM
Nice work guys........

adding more clues:

AN OLYMPIC CHALLENGE LEAVES ONE RACER PARALYZED WITH FEAR AND THE TEAM'S FUTURE IN JEOPARDY, WHILE A GRUDGE BETWEEN TWO TEAMS CONTINUES TO LINGER, ON "THE AMAZING RACE," APRIL 26 ON CBS
"Having a Baby's Gotta Be Easier Than This" (China) - In an Olympic-themed task in Beijing, Teams swim the same distance that Michael Phelps swam in the 400 meter individual medley, and two Teams continue to hold a grudge against each other, on THE AMAZING RACE 14, Sunday, April 26 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is host.

 
 
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Post by: Boingo on April 20, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
Nice work guys........

adding more clues:
... Teams swim the same distance that Michael Phelps swam in the 400 meter individual medley,... .

Individual medley, one swimmer does 4 different strokes during the race.  So, Phelps did all 400m of the race, so 400m = 8 laps of an Olympic size pool.  (8 x 50m = 400m).   :groan:  Not an easy task even for an average swimmer.
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Post by: puddin on April 20, 2009, 02:39:17 PM
The press release makes it seem like doing the Olympic-themed task is something they all must do don't you think?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Belle Book on April 20, 2009, 06:43:32 PM
clues:

Next On The Amazing Race
Having a Baby's Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
An Olympic task leaves racers gasping for breath. Animosity grows as two teams continue to hold a grudge against each other. One racer is paralyzed with fear-after coming this far, will they choose to go home? A Chinese foot massage puts racers through more pain than pleasure.

The Olympic task is most likely the swimming task, and Jen's obviously the one paralyzed by fear.

The Roadblock looks really tough!

As for the animosity between two teams, that's obviously LaKisha & Jen and Margie & Luke.

Belle Book
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Post by: apskip on April 20, 2009, 09:21:40 PM
Beijing is 1340 miles from Guilin, much more north than east. It is much cooler than Guilin in November.

Beijing in November has an averagte high of 49 to 52 degrees F and an average low of 29 to 33 degrees F.

On Nov. 19, high temp was 39 and the low temp was 15. This is why teams needed warmer clothing.
On nov. 20, high temp was 57 and the low temp was 19.
On Nov. 21, high temp was 53 and the low temp was 28.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Glamazon Racer on April 21, 2009, 02:36:46 AM
The press release makes it seem like doing the Olympic-themed task is something they all must do don't you think?
Yeah, it does. That explains why Kisha & Jen were doing it.

If we are going to have another U-Turn in this race, it will surely be in this leg, not later on, right? :duno:

 :sneak
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Post by: ZBC Company on April 21, 2009, 04:10:41 AM
Non-elimation


Guys have to E11 will in china again then after it maui
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: redskevin88 on April 21, 2009, 06:42:50 AM
clues:

Next On The Amazing Race
Having a Baby's Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
An Olympic task leaves racers gasping for breath. Animosity grows as two teams continue to hold a grudge against each other. One racer is paralyzed with fear-after coming this far, will they choose to go home? A Chinese foot massage puts racers through more pain than pleasure.

The Olympic task is most likely the swimming task, and Jen's obviously the one paralyzed by fear.

The Roadblock looks really tough!

As for the animosity between two teams, that's obviously LaKisha & Jen and Margie & Luke.

Belle Book


Kisha and Jen appeared to have pissed off Tammy/Victor, maybe they will u-turn them resulting in them doing the other detour... 
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Post by: Moo on April 21, 2009, 08:11:37 AM

Kisha and Jen appeared to have pissed off Tammy/Victor, maybe they will u-turn them resulting in them doing the other detour... 

How??  :lol: I just know they needed T/V to help them off with the Chinese...
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Post by: ready2rock on April 21, 2009, 09:29:38 AM

Kisha and Jen appeared to have pissed off Tammy/Victor, maybe they will u-turn them resulting in them doing the other detour... 

How on earth did that happen...infact t/v were so happy for them on finishing first...i'm very much sure it has to be c/j returning favour to m/l by u-turning k/j...but i just hope that doesn't happen :snicker:
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Post by: KrisCe on April 21, 2009, 10:43:55 AM
FINALLY! Bird's Nest Stadium!! And a swimming "Olympic" challenge!! :hearts:

But poor Jen....   :'(

karma karma karma for her

agreed - really not feeling pity for her here

If someone has a fear of the water/swimming... why would one do a swimming challenge... (Do we see a blind uturn happening?)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Coutzy on April 21, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
It could be a miscellaneous task.

Unlikely, but one can always hope.

Please don't came last Kisha and Jen
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Post by: BayBay on April 21, 2009, 07:37:43 PM
There is still one more U-Turn and one Fast Forward on the race. So I guess we can expect one this leg and one on the next.

ps. There was only one u-turn last season (maybe we didn't see other one?).
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Post by: Belle Book on April 21, 2009, 08:06:56 PM
There is still one more U-Turn and one Fast Forward on the race. So I guess we can expect one this leg and one on the next.

ps. There was only one u-turn last season (maybe we didn't see other one?).

There's probably one more U-Turn.  But I think the unaired Fast-Forward was the only one.

Belle Book
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Post by: redskevin88 on April 22, 2009, 06:45:08 AM
ps. There was only one u-turn last season (maybe we didn't see other one?).

The second u-turn was in Moscow ... After the marching/serving soup task there was a u-turn.
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Post by: jerseydude on April 22, 2009, 06:57:35 AM
redskevin88,

I think you got the Season wrong. In this season, teams didn't go into Moscow. I think you got it mixed up with the last Season (Season 13) where there was the detour of Marching or serving the soup.
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Post by: Dånooky on April 22, 2009, 07:28:09 AM
redskevin88,

I think you got the Season wrong. In this season, teams didn't go into Moscow. I think you got it mixed up with the last Season (Season 13) where there was the detour of Marching or serving the soup.
he was answering baydogg's question about last season
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: redskevin88 on April 22, 2009, 07:28:38 AM
redskevin88,

I think you got the Season wrong. In this season, teams didn't go into Moscow. I think you got it mixed up with the last Season (Season 13) where there was the detour of Marching or serving the soup.


I was referring to last season... (I've changed it)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: BayBay on April 22, 2009, 09:05:33 AM
yer I wiki-ed it and found out after.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: jerseydude on April 22, 2009, 10:57:22 AM
Sorry  :-[
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2009, 11:06:07 AM
They are pushing the "will one teams fear cost them the race?" .. not much new



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0000-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0001.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0002.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0003.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0004.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0005-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0006.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0008-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0009-1.jpg)
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Post by: Dånooky on April 22, 2009, 11:22:13 AM
Will they keep the dream alive?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Slowhatch on April 22, 2009, 11:38:24 AM
Everybody's happy: no one is holding a "NEL" sign, but it's close enough  :lol:. And the mat is: inside? outside at night?
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Post by: gator27 on April 22, 2009, 11:55:33 AM
TPTB are not showing the water detour in the preview with K/J in the correct order.

Jen shown with goggles and life vest.
Jen shown swimming with neither item.
Jen and Kisha are talking in corridor without life vest.
Jen and Kisha are doing the detour, both wearing life vests.

I think K/J started the task and Jen freaked.  They discuss water phobia and then life vest were furnished and task completed.  No big deal and no major delay.  K/J are alone.  It seems with Jen's water phobia they would have done the other task.  Wonder why they didn't.

It appears task is like a relay where 1 member has to get to the other side of pool and back however they can while in the water and then the 2nd member jumps or dives in to do the same thing.  Jen probably dog paddled for her 2 lengths of the pool.

Edited to fix format mess up.

Initially I agreed with you makz3d.  With the above pictures showing Kisha & Jen on diving boards, I think the sequence is as follows: 

Swimming with vests
Hallway breakdown
Diving boards

In the hallway pictures, it looks like the girls have marks on their foreheads corresponding to wearing caps and goggles.  Going off the diving board would mean deep water where one can not stand/touch the bottom. This would be very stressful.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: beau_30 on April 22, 2009, 12:35:53 PM
They are pushing the "will one teams fear cost them the race?" .. not much new

I went and ordered an idea of the order they come in... Just from the facial experissions...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0003.jpg)
Cara and Jamie finally get 1st..

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0002.jpg)
Margie and Luke 2nd

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0000-1.jpg)
Tammy and Victor 3rd

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0001.jpg)
Kisha/Jen 4th and saved by the Non-elimination. You can tell by the hug that they are relieved..

The also possible explantion is that Phil says "You are team #1, how ever the race is still going on. Here is your next clue.."

Although I could be wrong..
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Post by: apskip on April 22, 2009, 12:55:25 PM
I am going out on a limb and speculating that the logical team to be affected by fear is Kisha/Jen. However, since the weekly tips from World Race Productions are always always misdirection, I believe that it will NOT be them and it will be one of the other 3 teams. I have no idea which one.
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Post by: puddin on April 22, 2009, 01:00:18 PM
I think those reactions at the pitstop are from episode 5 at the Opera Ballet ......

eta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTHmguHhMIg&feature=related
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Coutzy on April 22, 2009, 01:08:04 PM
Everybody's happy: no one is holding a "NEL" sign, but it's close enough  :lol:. And the mat is: inside? outside at night?

If you look really carefully at the background (especially for T/V), you can disticntly see a wall of some description, meaning they are inside.
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Post by: Slowhatch on April 22, 2009, 01:10:40 PM
Right you are.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Boingo on April 22, 2009, 01:18:54 PM
This building for the swimming complex?

Note the 6 notches on the top...

 ;D  you may have had it the first time, walkingpneumonia....  from what I read, this sports complex has a regular swimming pool, a synchronized swimming pool, and a diving pool.  This building may house a few of those venues.  ;)
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Post by: Boingo on April 22, 2009, 01:25:55 PM
Everybody's happy: no one is holding a "NEL" sign, but it's close enough  :lol:. And the mat is: inside? outside at night?

If you look really carefully at the background (especially for T/V), you can disticntly see a wall of some description, meaning they are inside.

best I could do enhancing the preview, and it does look like some sort of theatre/ concert hall (given the "sloped" seating???)  BVM sure like using theatres for the pitstops.... I guess he's saving the Birdsnest stadium for the following weeks pitstop.
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 22, 2009, 01:42:24 PM
I think those reactions at the pitstop are from episode 5 at the Opera Ballet ......

eta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTHmguHhMIg&feature=related
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Post by: Ashe on April 22, 2009, 01:59:34 PM
I think those reactions at the pitstop are from episode 5 at the Opera Ballet ......

eta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTHmguHhMIg&feature=related
That's episode four, actually.  Episode five saw them in the balcony, not on the stage.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DavidJunior on April 22, 2009, 02:19:56 PM
what if the swimming task is a detour option? and the other one is the diving task?

both would be difficult for jen to do, and that is why we see her break down in that hallway

maybe they have to do a different type of dive off of each one, and they have to be synchronized in order to move to the next diving board

what do you guys think?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2009, 03:35:23 PM
I think those reactions at the pitstop are from episode 5 at the Opera Ballet ......

eta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTHmguHhMIg&feature=related
That's episode four, actually.  Episode five saw them in the balcony, not on the stage.
oops I meant 4! lol
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Post by: Belle Book on April 22, 2009, 03:48:00 PM
what if the swimming task is a detour option? and the other one is the diving task?

both would be difficult for jen to do, and that is why we see her break down in that hallway

maybe they have to do a different type of dive off of each one, and they have to be synchronized in order to move to the next diving board

what do you guys think?  :duno:

That might be a distinct possibility.  If both Detour tasks are swimming ones, there's no way that Jen can avoid doing a swimming Detour.  In that case ... poor Jen!

Belle Book
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Post by: apskip on April 22, 2009, 05:38:14 PM
I think those reactions at the pitstop are from episode 5 at the Opera Ballet ......

eta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTHmguHhMIg&feature=related

I disagree. I think it is episode at the Musical Comedy Theatre in Krasnojarsk. However, since 4 women have comething akin to wool caps on, it's crystal clear that the teams were not in Hawaii for these shots.

I may not often agree with Ashe, but this time I do. It's episode 4.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2009, 05:45:02 PM
Well yeah I said he was right, I meant episode 4 and obviously even posted a YT link for EP4.. what more do you want me to say? 44444444444444444444444444444444

I think those reactions at the pitstop are from episode 5 at the Opera Ballet ......

eta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTHmguHhMIg&feature=related

I disagree. I think it is episode at the Musical Comedy Theatre in Krasnojarsk. However, since 4 women have comething akin to wool caps on, it's crystal clear that the teams were not in Hawaii for these shots.

I may not often agree with Ashe, but this time I do. It's episode 4.
I think those reactions at the pitstop are from episode 5 at the Opera Ballet ......

eta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTHmguHhMIg&feature=related
That's episode four, actually.  Episode five saw them in the balcony, not on the stage.
oops I meant 4! lol
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Post by: puddin on April 22, 2009, 07:43:32 PM
"thrill of victory, agony of the feet"  :lol:

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Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 22, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
Yep.  The massage definitely seems like a Roadblock, and the swimming like either a regular task or a Detour.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 22, 2009, 10:25:24 PM
I could feel the pain on Cara's face!

 << HQ option


Final 4 commercial
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 22, 2009, 10:56:42 PM
May I ask a possible silly question?

From all the previews
We have yet to see Tammy and Victor in any shots for this up coming leg?
other then the leg 4 shot the Puddin points out.

If so, where are they?

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 22, 2009, 11:06:12 PM
^^[brokenrecord]Maybe they took a Fast Forward.[/brokenrecord]
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 22, 2009, 11:17:04 PM
^^[brokenrecord]Maybe they took a Fast Forward.[/brokenrecord]

Yes, but hasn't it been reported that there are no more fast forwards?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 22, 2009, 11:44:37 PM
^^I know, hence the [brokenrecord] tags. But unless they're the actual team that got U-Turned, then I don't know why they're a no-show.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 23, 2009, 12:38:30 AM
May I ask a possible silly question?

From all the previews
We have yet to see Tammy and Victor in any shots for this up coming leg?
other then the leg 4 shot the Puddin points out.

If so, where are they?
They either made like Colin & Christie and took a good flight that put them way ahead, made like T.K. & Rachel and took a bad flight that put them behind, or got U-Turned for their strength.

I'm probably gonna wager they're behind.  If they were ahead, we'd be seeing action clips of them doing at least one of the tasks.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 23, 2009, 02:01:18 AM
May I ask a possible silly question?

From all the previews
We have yet to see Tammy and Victor in any shots for this up coming leg?
other then the leg 4 shot the Puddin points out.

If so, where are they?



Your question's not silly, in fact I am too boggled by the lack of previews for T/V

at least when TK/Rachel got delayed in flights, they had promos saying where are they to...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: redskevin88 on April 23, 2009, 03:53:23 AM
^^[brokenrecord]Maybe they took a Fast Forward.[/brokenrecord]

Yes, but hasn't it been reported that there are no more fast forwards?

It was also reported in Season 12 that there will be no more eliminations... I'll believe it when i see it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: redskevin88 on April 23, 2009, 04:07:57 AM

Kisha and Jen appeared to have pissed off Tammy/Victor, maybe they will u-turn them resulting in them doing the other detour... 

How on earth did that happen...infact t/v were so happy for them on finishing first...i'm very much sure it has to be c/j returning favour to m/l by u-turning k/j...but i just hope that doesn't happen :snicker:


Both T/V and C/J are in an alliance with M/L... although M/L distrusts T/V after what happened in Siberia...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 23, 2009, 04:24:08 AM
^^T/V are not in any alliance, as they have made clear during that same Siberia leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Kevin on April 23, 2009, 04:41:10 AM
CBS overpromoting Jen's fear of water probably means they did make it to the F3  ;)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 23, 2009, 04:45:26 AM
^^Good luck to Kisha/Jen, if that's the case. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2009, 06:13:36 AM


It was also reported in Season 12 that there will be no more eliminations... I'll believe it when i see it.


I am not aware of any such report? Can you show us your data please?

In fact, it seems widely believed that this leg may be another NEL, with the final elimination to give us our Final 3 coming next week.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: redskevin88 on April 23, 2009, 06:26:57 AM


It was also reported in Season 12 that there will be no more eliminations... I'll believe it when i see it.


http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_12/2007_Jul_25_non_elimination_dropped

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The Amazing Race 12 will drop its non-elimination legs, introduced in the first season, executive producer Jonathan Littman told The Orlando Sentinel’s Hal Boedeker.

As a result, two episodes will be dropped (12 episodes aired last season; 13 the previous few seasons), and Boedeker reports that’s “to create more excitement.” Presumably, that means punishments for arriving last at the non-elimination leg—most recently the “marked for elimination” penalty, and earlier the stripped-of-cash-and-clothes penalty—will also disappear. And now Phil can always say “the last team to arrive will be eliminated.”

Littman also said that the new cast “is a tough group.” However, “They’ll be younger. We still have a good balance.”
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 23, 2009, 06:36:09 AM
My fault, I read that as Season 13.  :groan:

Oh yes, that was a error that TPTB then let go on, probably just to confound us. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: apskip on April 23, 2009, 06:54:34 AM
CBS overpromoting Jen's fear of water probably means they did make it to the F3  ;)

Kevin,
You should alter your statement to "make it to the next episode." The probability that the first Beijing episode will be the remaining NEL or TBC leg is high. I do agree (and have stated in a thread, maybe even this one) that the emphasis on the water fear means that Kisha/Jen are safe this episode.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DavidJunior on April 23, 2009, 09:34:49 AM
has anyone else noticed that the farther we go along in the race, the more we start to see of K/J, and the less we see of T/V?

these last three previews were very focused towards K/J, and T/V were almost non-existent.

and K/J have also randomly came out of nowhere with the large edits in each episode, almost like they've been having the large edits since the beginning.

And T/V have again slowly started to fade, the only thing keeping them actually in the episode last week was their constantly reminding everyone that they could speak Mandarin, and the fact that they had some disobedient birds...

could this mean that K/J are actually safe, and T/V are slowly being cycled out before their elimination on the penultimate leg?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 23, 2009, 10:13:27 AM
Yay for Kisha/Jen. Nay for Tammy/Victor.

Being probably the only Margie/Luke-nonfan here, I'd want them outta there ASAP.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 23, 2009, 10:17:09 AM
has anyone else noticed that the farther we go along in the race, the more we start to see of K/J, and the less we see of T/V?

these last three previews were very focused towards K/J, and T/V were almost non-existent.

and K/J have also randomly came out of nowhere with the large edits in each episode, almost like they've been having the large edits since the beginning.

And T/V have again slowly started to fade, the only thing keeping them actually in the episode last week was their constantly reminding everyone that they could speak Mandarin, and the fact that they had some disobedient birds...

could this mean that K/J are actually safe, and T/V are slowly being cycled out before their elimination on the penultimate leg?

THIS IS PURELY MY OBSERVATIONS AND SPECULATIONS:

TK and Rachel have been non-existent throughout the last few parts (see:Italy to Finale) the entire Season 12 and they won the race. I believe they had more editing during the first half of the race... Nate and Jen, which we all got to know got the final boot.
Dandrew was somehow non-existent and came to the Final 3 last season. Toni and Dallas though had a lot of airtime in the near end (India 1 - Moscow 2), but lead to their surprise elimination = loss of passports.
Eric and Danielle were almost non existent due to Dustin and Kandice and the race's gaga over Charla and Mirna :yess: and Oswald and Danny, and yet they won...
Bama got past Dustin and Kandice in Season 10
Ray and Yolanda was rather invisible made it to the Final 3 of the 9th season.
The Linzes were boring during their race, but they won against the Bransens and the producer's favorite the Weavers, Godlewskis got a lot of airtime nearing the end of their Race at the penultimate leg.
Meredith and Gretchen got more airtime as they near their elimination from some old guys...
Hayden and Aaron got eliminated in China after being so much focused in almost all episodes, Adam and Rebecca however were not that seen throughout got past after the yield, got past elimination too...
Season 5 was a null as all of them I believe had equal edits, but Colin and Christie got a little edit in the last legs in the Philippines, but they escaped elimination
Season 4 Jon and Al... nuff said. They're fun, had there any more time we get to see them run the finale.
Season 3 Derek and Drew got more airtime than Terri and Ian or the Brothers in the beginning leg and the last few legs before their elimination... and where did they end up? 4th.
Season 2 had Oswald and Danny, such notable people in editing because of their funny and outrageous characters got booted fourth. I didn't even know Chris and Alex were alive at that time.
Season 1 had the Frat Boys, Guido was in fact not appeared that much after faltering so badly in Thailand, only to be spared by Nancy and Emily.

In the examples above, we see that teams that generally become active throughout the series (i.e. Jen and Kisha) nearing the finale gets the final boot. So we can't really say that T/V are outta this game. At least I don't.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 23, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
Well, this show has taught me one thing: There is no such thing as a "nth placer" edit. I mean, right now, nothing's certain. We only have sightings of teams in either Beijing Airport or Hawaii.

Jaime/Cara could be decoys in the airport racing alongside Margie/Luke or vice-versa (production is doing a better job throwing us off nowadays).
Kisha/Jen have not been seen anywhere (except in Hawaii)
Tammy/Victor were spotted with Phil & BVM (red flag)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 23, 2009, 10:40:35 AM
Well, this show has taught me one thing: There is no such thing as a "nth placer" edit. I mean, right now, nothing's certain. We only have sightings of teams in either Beijing Airport or Hawaii.

Jaime/Cara could be decoys in the airport racing alongside Margie/Luke or vice-versa (production is doing a better job throwing us off nowadays).
Kisha/Jen have not been seen anywhere (except in Hawaii)
Tammy/Victor were spotted with Phil & BVM (red flag)

Kisha and Jen spoiler in Hawaii can even be taken as a grain of salt for that matter...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 23, 2009, 11:46:19 AM
Well, this show has taught me one thing: There is no such thing as a "nth placer" edit. I mean, right now, nothing's certain. We only have sightings of teams in either Beijing Airport or Hawaii.

Jaime/Cara could be decoys in the airport racing alongside Margie/Luke or vice-versa (production is doing a better job throwing us off nowadays).
Kisha/Jen have not been seen anywhere (except in Hawaii)
Tammy/Victor were spotted with Phil & BVM (red flag)

Kisha and Jen spoiler in Hawaii can even be taken as a grain of salt for that matter...
But Margie & Luke and Jaime & Cara being seen together can't.  Decoys have SOMETIMES been seen in the same proximity as teams still racing (example: TAR1's finale).  But never have they been allowed to directly interact.  So I do think Margie & Luke and Jaime & Cara are both in the F3, and that Tammy & Victor and Kisha & Jen are fighting for that final spot.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: gator27 on April 23, 2009, 01:00:02 PM
has anyone else noticed that the farther we go along in the race, the more we start to see of K/J, and the less we see of T/V?

these last three previews were very focused towards K/J, and T/V were almost non-existent.

and K/J have also randomly came out of nowhere with the large edits in each episode, almost like they've been having the large edits since the beginning.

And T/V have again slowly started to fade, the only thing keeping them actually in the episode last week was their constantly reminding everyone that they could speak Mandarin, and the fact that they had some disobedient birds...

could this mean that K/J are actually safe, and T/V are slowly being cycled out before their elimination on the penultimate leg?

THIS IS PURELY MY OBSERVATIONS AND SPECULATIONS:

TK and Rachel have been non-existent throughout the last few parts (see:Italy to Finale) the entire Season 12 and they won the race. I believe they had more editing during the first half of the race... Nate and Jen, which we all got to know got the final boot.
Dandrew was somehow non-existent and came to the Final 3 last season. Toni and Dallas though had a lot of airtime in the near end (India 1 - Moscow 2), but lead to their surprise elimination = loss of passports.
Eric and Danielle were almost non existent due to Dustin and Kandice and the race's gaga over Charla and Mirna :yess: and Oswald and Danny, and yet they won...
Bama got past Dustin and Kandice in Season 10
Ray and Yolanda was rather invisible made it to the Final 3 of the 9th season.
The Linzes were boring during their race, but they won against the Bransens and the producer's favorite the Weavers, Godlewskis got a lot of airtime nearing the end of their Race at the penultimate leg.
Meredith and Gretchen got more airtime as they near their elimination from some old guys...
Hayden and Aaron got eliminated in China after being so much focused in almost all episodes, Adam and Rebecca however were not that seen throughout got past after the yield, got past elimination too...
Season 5 was a null as all of them I believe had equal edits, but Colin and Christie got a little edit in the last legs in the Philippines, but they escaped elimination
Season 4 Jon and Al... nuff said. They're fun, had there any more time we get to see them run the finale.
Season 3 Derek and Drew got more airtime than Terri and Ian or the Brothers in the beginning leg and the last few legs before their elimination... and where did they end up? 4th.
Season 2 had Oswald and Danny, such notable people in editing because of their funny and outrageous characters got booted fourth. I didn't even know Chris and Alex were alive at that time.
Season 1 had the Frat Boys, Guido was in fact not appeared that much after faltering so badly in Thailand, only to be spared by Nancy and Emily.

In the examples above, we see that teams that generally become active throughout the series (i.e. Jen and Kisha) nearing the finale gets the final boot. So we can't really say that T/V are outta this game. At least I don't.

Do something exciting or controversial, get more air time.

Tammy & Victor are fairly boring (in a nice way)
Kisha & Jen fighting with Margie & Luke is exciting
Jaime's outbursts are exciting
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Belle Book on April 23, 2009, 06:48:56 PM
May I ask a possible silly question?

From all the previews
We have yet to see Tammy and Victor in any shots for this up coming leg?
other then the leg 4 shot the Puddin points out.

If so, where are they?
They either made like Colin & Christie and took a good flight that put them way ahead, made like T.K. & Rachel and took a bad flight that put them behind, or got U-Turned for their strength.

I'm probably gonna wager they're behind.  If they were ahead, we'd be seeing action clips of them doing at least one of the tasks.

Me too.  I think Tammy & Victor either took a bad flight that put them behind or (more likely) got U-Turned for their strength.  Cara & Jamie probably used the U-Turn, although it's possible LaKisha & Jen did.  Margie & Luke can't use theirs -- they already used it on Amanda & Kris.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 23, 2009, 07:18:41 PM

Do something exciting or controversial, get more air time.

Tammy & Victor are fairly boring (in a nice way)
Kisha & Jen fighting with Margie & Luke is exciting
Jaime's out bursts is exciting

I agree... I't actually doesn't matter whether you're airtime appears in the near end or in the first part, so we can't really tell about the ranks of the teams based on the airtime they are showing us per episode...

It does not mean about any elimination...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: slayton on April 23, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Based on the wiki of the last two seasons, the leg with the second U-Turn has always ended with 4 teams left in the race, so I would expect it in this episode. 

With it historically being Detour --> U-Turn --> Roadblock, the racers getting massaged, if it's the roadblock, don't look like they have very wet hair.  Of course, that might not mean anything.
 
If Margie & Luke and Kisha & Jen continue feuding, then the U-Turn is the most likely weapon--via Jaime & Cara or, if they made a deal with them, Tammy & Victor--because I don't expect them to continue running into each other at clueboxes.

The only things that are throwing me off are the fact that it's dark out when Margie & Luke finish swimming.  Since the massage and the swimming & diving are all indoors, daylight might not matter in this leg.  How late does this leg go? 

It's too bad I can't make out Cara's watch at the massage.

I don't know what it means, but Luke is only wearing a white t-shirt both in the taxi after swimming and at the massage.

If the Roadblock is just getting a massage, then a U-Turned team is not going to be able to make up much time at the Roadblock.

Since I didn't see anyone else guess it, if the swimming & diving are the Detour options, then I'm going to guess that the Detour is called "Sink" or "Swim."

About Tammy & Victor, if they weren't stuck between the two feuding teams in the last leg, they probably wouldn't have appeared at all in the previews.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 23, 2009, 07:53:13 PM
Based on the wiki of the last two seasons, the leg with the second U-Turn has always ended with 4 teams left in the race, so I would expect it in this episode. 

The last U-TURN of the 12th season was with 5 teams...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Jobby on April 24, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
Next week has to be a NEL, with a elimination, then our finale.. 3 more weeks of TAR.. then we'll have nothing to look forward to. Dang it, why does good shows always come together. Why can't they have TAR ending, followed by Survivor, then another season of TAR?? (:;)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 24, 2009, 02:29:57 AM
^^Not to mention, AI, the Apprentice & America's Next Top Model are also ending in May, so we'll have nothing. Except maybe Big Brother, but that's it. No Pitstops. No Tribal Councils. No Board Rooms. No Tyra mail. No Simon/Paula.

ETA: look, DrRox, sorry but the thing I was supposed to post slipped my mind. What I wanted to say was that I think the order of the markers were like this:

Flight --> Roadblock in midafternoon --> Detour that extends until evening --> U-Turn --> Pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2009, 03:08:01 AM
^^Not to mention, AI, the Apprentice & America's Next Top Model are also ending in May, so we'll have nothing. Except maybe Big Brother, but that's it. No Pitstops. No Tribal Councils. No Board Rooms. No Tyra mail. No Simon/Paula.

What, if anything, does this have to do with The Amazing Race 14, Episode 10? That is the topic of this thread. Do you have some kind of internet tourettes syndrom, that causes you to just post anything without having any mental control? You did the same thing on Sunday and spoiled the finsh for many of us.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2009, 03:14:09 AM
Well this leg/episode starts in Guilin and ends in Beijing. What time did K/J, T/V and M/L finish Leg 9? So far we have had two times for the opening of the Brocade Mtn task, either 6:00 am (Neobie, I think) or 6:30 am (apskip). To me, all the teams finished the tasks in Leg 9 pretty quickly, somewhere in the 9-10 am time frame. If Chateau can work some magic, maybe we can be more specific. The reason I bring this up is that the evening flights from Guilin to Beijing on Nov 18th were at:

CZ 3287   17:10-19:50  (5:10 pm-7:50 pm)
CA 1226   21:05-00:05 (9:05 pm-12:05 am)

Morning of Nov 19th flights were:
CZ 3281   9:00-11:25
CA 1312   11:45-14:35 (11:45 am-2:35 pm)

Since the activities appear to be all at night, that would (to me) preclude the morning flights on Nov 19th. So I think that TPTB will give us a shortened pit stop this episode, in order for the 4 teams to make the last flight to Beijing and another bunching point.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Jobby on April 24, 2009, 05:03:33 AM
The only edit spoiler you can get is when a team is given more edit than the others, such as in TAR 13, where Andrew and Dan and Toni and Dallas were given more edit than Mark and Bill even though the latter did better the two teams for the first leg.

TK and Rachel is an example that edit spoiler does not exist, because based on the edit. Season 12 is all about Ronald and Christina, but they still didn't win.

Yup, just my take.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: gator27 on April 24, 2009, 06:01:48 AM
Me too.  I think Tammy & Victor either took a bad flight that put them behind or (more likely) got U-Turned for their strength.  Cara & Jamie probably used the U-Turn, although it's possible LaKisha & Jen did.  Margie & Luke can't use theirs -- they already used it on Amanda & Kris.

Belle Book


Sink or Swim (Diving or Swimming) seems like a logical Detour.  With Kisha & Jen doing both tasks, especially with the breakdown, they are the U-Turned team.  The alliance between Margie & Luke with Cara & Jamie, established in earlier episodes, helps establish Cara & Jamie as the likely U-Turners.  I cannot see Tammy & Victor using the U-Turn on someone.

Now, how did Cara & Jamie get ahead of Kisha & Jen?  Flight bunching?  Hours of operation?  Laps in the pool?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Coutzy on April 24, 2009, 06:04:59 AM
Me too.  I think Tammy & Victor either took a bad flight that put them behind or (more likely) got U-Turned for their strength.  Cara & Jamie probably used the U-Turn, although it's possible LaKisha & Jen did.  Margie & Luke can't use theirs -- they already used it on Amanda & Kris.

Belle Book


Sink or Swim (Diving or Swimming) seems like a logical Detour.  With Kisha & Jen doing both tasks, especially with the breakdown, they are the U-Turned team.  The alliance between Margie & Luke with Cara & Jamie, established in earlier episodes, helps establish Cara & Jamie as the likely U-Turners.  I cannot see Tammy & Victor using the U-Turn on someone.

Now, how did Cara & Jamie get ahead of Kisha & Jen?  Flight bunching?  Hours of operation?  Laps in the pool?

We don't ever see Kisha and Jen complete both tasks, its still very possible that they chose the diving, decided they couldn't do it, and went for the swimming, which would appear to be slightly safer.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DrRox on April 24, 2009, 06:35:05 AM
Me too.  I think Tammy & Victor either took a bad flight that put them behind or (more likely) got U-Turned for their strength.  Cara & Jamie probably used the U-Turn, although it's possible LaKisha & Jen did.  Margie & Luke can't use theirs -- they already used it on Amanda & Kris.

Belle Book


Sink or Swim (Diving or Swimming) seems like a logical Detour.  With Kisha & Jen doing both tasks, especially with the breakdown, they are the U-Turned team.  The alliance between Margie & Luke with Cara & Jamie, established in earlier episodes, helps establish Cara & Jamie as the likely U-Turners.  I cannot see Tammy & Victor using the U-Turn on someone.

Now, how did Cara & Jamie get ahead of Kisha & Jen?  Flight bunching?  Hours of operation?  Laps in the pool?

We don't ever see Kisha and Jen complete both tasks, its still very possible that they chose the diving, decided they couldn't do it, and went for the swimming, which would appear to be slightly safer.

I am with you, Coutzy. They could start swimming, give up and go try diving, give up and go back swimming. Who knows at this point in time. Unless we get more clues, we will just have to wait till Sunday. There doesn't have to be a U-turn at all. As a matter of fact, if I was Jamie/Cara and could see how much trouble that K/J were having, wouldn't it be smarter/wiser to U-turn T/V......almost like getting two teams U-turned that way.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: gator27 on April 24, 2009, 07:52:45 AM

We don't ever see Kisha and Jen complete both tasks, its still very possible that they chose the diving, decided they couldn't do it, and went for the swimming, which would appear to be slightly safer.

I am with you, Coutzy. They could start swimming, give up and go try diving, give up and go back swimming. Who knows at this point in time. Unless we get more clues, we will just have to wait till Sunday. There doesn't have to be a U-turn at all. As a matter of fact, if I was Jamie/Cara and could see how much trouble that K/J were having, wouldn't it be smarter/wiser to U-turn T/V......almost like getting two teams U-turned that way.

I like the task switching idea.  Not liking water sports would add plenty of doubt for the tasks.

If Tammy & Victor are ahead of Cara & Jamie, Cara & Jamie cannot use the U-Turn on them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: BayBay on April 24, 2009, 08:03:01 AM
I HOPE KISHA AND JEN GET ELIMINATED/SPEED BUMPED!!!!!!!!!!!  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Jobby on April 24, 2009, 10:00:03 AM
^^ o_O

Anyway, i'm hoping the last place team on a NEL stop getting eliminated for this season. LOL, if not the NEL serves no purpose.

And i'm starting to miss the Fast Forward. :(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 24, 2009, 11:14:54 AM
just running thru my dvd and this is all I see new in the commercials that were aired this morning

Jen: home stretch
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ruth on April 24, 2009, 11:48:50 AM
I wonder if there'll be a U-turn on the penultimate leg of the race. That will be a true test.

And I'm thinking that teams that usually get a lot of edit don't win. Unless it's a team like Nick and Starr who're always finishing in first place, that's a different story. I'm guessing one of the all-female teams win this season, and that's gonna be awesome. Cara and Jaime for the win!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Boingo on April 24, 2009, 11:55:06 AM
just running thru my dvd and this is all I see new in the commercials that were aired this morning

Jen: home stretch

FWIW, this appears to be a Guilin taxi (window sticker similar to one in previous epiosde (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep9/rff-0040.jpg))


So they must be on their way to the Guilin airport for their flight to Beijing.   :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 24, 2009, 12:06:55 PM
just running thru my dvd and this is all I see new in the commercials that were aired this morning

Jen: home stretch

FWIW, this appears to be a Guilin taxi (window sticker similar to one in previous epiosde)

taxi in Guilin leg (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep9/rff-0040.jpg)

So they must be on their way to the Guilin airport for their flight to Beijing.   :snicker:
Ooh, then it was either an eighteen- or a twenty-four-hour Pit Stop, and they'll all be on the same flight leaving in the daytime, then.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: apskip on April 24, 2009, 01:49:15 PM
^^Not to mention, AI, the Apprentice & America's Next Top Model are also ending in May, so we'll have nothing. Except maybe Big Brother, but that's it. No Pitstops. No Tribal Councils. No Board Rooms. No Tyra mail. No Simon/Paula.

ETA: look, DrRox, sorry but the thing I was supposed to post slipped my mind. What I wanted to say was that I think the order of the markers were like this:

Flight --> Roadblock in midafternoon --> Detour that extends until evening --> U-Turn --> Pitstop.

Raymond,
I can't imagine how all the good TV shows end in May when the regular viewing season is finished and when May Sweeps month rating numbers are completed. My only advice to you is start watching the numerous reruns on the Travel Channel as a survival strategy.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: apskip on April 24, 2009, 02:20:55 PM
^^ o_O

Anyway, i'm hoping the last place team on a NEL stop getting eliminated for this season. LOL, if not the NEL serves no purpose.

And i'm starting to miss the Fast Forward. :(
Joab,

Here are some purposes that NELs serve:
1. to trigger a Marked for Elimination penalty. Some of these (Christie/Jodi in AR14 or Dustin/Kandice in AR10 or David/Mary in Madagascar) result in eliminations and others like David/Mary at Kuwait City in AR10 do not.
2. if we are talking Amazing Race Asia then the alternative of a "lose all your money" penalty is still used
3. most importantly, to enable World Race Productions to have more than 9 legs for a 11 team race. Without the NEL of TBC, that is not possible. I think we would all say that more legs in an Amazing Raceare better than fewer.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Jobby on April 24, 2009, 10:36:20 PM
^^ o_O

Anyway, i'm hoping the last place team on a NEL stop getting eliminated for this season. LOL, if not the NEL serves no purpose.

And i'm starting to miss the Fast Forward. :(
Joab,

Here are some purposes that NELs serve:
1. to trigger a Marked for Elimination penalty. Some of these (Christie/Jodi in AR14 or Dustin/Kandice in AR10 or David/Mary in Madagascar) result in eliminations and others like David/Mary at Kuwait City in AR10 do not.
2. if we are talking Amazing Race Asia then the alternative of a "lose all your money" penalty is still used
3. most importantly, to enable World Race Productions to have more than 9 legs for a 11 team race. Without the NEL of TBC, that is not possible. I think we would all say that more legs in an Amazing Raceare better than fewer.

askip, i do know what the NEL serves as for TAR, thanks. My POV for the post above was that the NEL will serve no purpose for the team in last place because it is supposed to help the team advance further, and not remain in the same placing.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Hooky on April 24, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
^^ o_O

Anyway, i'm hoping the last place team on a NEL stop getting eliminated for this season. LOL, if not the NEL serves no purpose.

And i'm starting to miss the Fast Forward. :(
Joab,

Here are some purposes that NELs serve:
1. to trigger a Marked for Elimination penalty. Some of these (Christie/Jodi in AR14 or Dustin/Kandice in AR10 or David/Mary in Madagascar) result in eliminations and others like David/Mary at Kuwait City in AR10 do not.
2. if we are talking Amazing Race Asia then the alternative of a "lose all your money" penalty is still used
3. most importantly, to enable World Race Productions to have more than 9 legs for a 11 team race. Without the NEL of TBC, that is not possible. I think we would all say that more legs in an Amazing Raceare better than fewer.

askip, i do know what the NEL serves as for TAR, thanks. My POV for the post above was that the NEL will serve no purpose for the team in last place because it is supposed to help the team advance further, and not remain in the same placing.

I agree with you there! Non-elims need to be easier to overcome. It seems like this season no matter how well the non-elim'd team starts to perform on the next leg, they suddenly fall to the bottom like a rock and just stay there, finishing last and getting eliminated. Take Christie & Jodi on leg 6 as an example of this annoying phenomenon.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 24, 2009, 11:46:02 PM
I think that this season, they really had a chance to survive, but:

1. Christie/Jodi's taxi took them miles in the wrong direction, so had their taxi taken them to the right direction, they'd have survived.
2. I really can't pinpoint Mark/Michael's reasons for the loss, but I think 2-hour penalties the previous leg help cost them the Race. Had one of those penalties not been incurred, they'd have been on the same flight as Kisha/Jen & they'd be bunched up. After that, who knows.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Jobby on April 25, 2009, 12:08:00 AM
Cara and Jaime will then be eliminated most probably. Mark and Michael said in an interview that they were only 30mins+ behind the girls.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 25, 2009, 12:14:26 AM
It is very interesting to think that  (as someone mentioned upstream), that had C/J switched detours and gone off to do calligraphy, they could have well been eliminated.  Hope they make a little headway this week!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 25, 2009, 12:16:54 AM
I am thinking right now that had Christie/Jodi's driver taken them to the right place, our Final 4 could've been Margie/Luke, Tammy/Victor, Kisha/Jen & Christie/Jodi (Mark/Michael in 7th, Mel/Mike in 6th, Jaime/Cara in 5th).

Anyways, are there any other known tasks aside from the supposed swimming/diving Detour & the massage Roadblock?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: hakushu8 on April 25, 2009, 06:14:56 AM
2. I really can't pinpoint Mark/Michael's reasons for the loss, but I think 2-hour penalties the previous leg help cost them the Race. Had one of those penalties not been incurred, they'd have been on the same flight as Kisha/Jen & they'd be bunched up. After that, who knows.

Also, it would've been Kisha/Jen who would do the Speed Bump. And since everyone saw the Speed Bump sign but not the cluebox, no meltdowns would've occurred. So... thanks Mark/Michael for getting those penalties! :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 25, 2009, 06:21:47 AM
Off topic, but are there any spoilers yet for Beijing 2? And what do ya'll think about spending 3 legs in one country?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: DrRox on April 25, 2009, 06:52:13 AM
This photo appears to me to be the 3m(10ft) paralled diving boards used in sychronized diving. It is a "team" diving event, which makes sense for a detour task. Since Kisha and Jen are near the end of both boards at the same time, I think it would be reasonable to assume that they are going to attempt to do a sychronized dive. So it is possible that the detour is 1) swim a 400m relay, or 2) do some number of sychronized dives.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0005-1.jpg)

From wikipedia:
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Synchronized diving is an Olympic sport. Brought to the Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia in 2000, the diving event features two divers who attempt to perform identical or mirrored dives. For example, if one diver were performing a forward dive in the pike position, the other diver would perform either an identical forward dive or an inward dive in the pike position, which mirrors its motions. The event is judged by three separate panels consisting of nine judges total, one panel (of two judges) for each diver and one panel (of five judges) to judge the synchronization of the dives. This means that if both divers make identical errors in performance of their dive, they may still attain high scores from the synchronization judges.

I really have a hard time imagining someone that has difficulty swimming to being able to get up on a 3m(10ft) diving board and actually doing a dive, much less doing it in sync with a partner. In that picture, neither Kisha or Jen are even at the end of the board. In the Olympics, the women have to do 5 dives. If the make the swimmers swim 400m, a full event, then I really wonder if they will make them do the whole 5 dives and which dives will they be required to do. I doubt that they would be all that strict on the judging. It will be interesting to see the sequence of events that Kisha/Jen did at the pool.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2009, 07:48:51 AM
Dr. Rox, your summary of synchorinzed diving is pretty good, but it is the Men's event that you cite the rules for. The Women's event is slightly different on number of judges and how many judges are focusing on what. Do you think it will be the Men's rules or the Women's rules that World Race Productions will try to model?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Belle Book on April 25, 2009, 10:40:23 AM
I think they'll attempt it, but with Jen's fear of heights they'll switch and do the other Detour.

BTW, this would be a great place to have the U-Turn.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 25, 2009, 01:52:58 PM
This is all that we get new from the golf insert .. sorry

Cara at the pool and Jamie, I assume from the other screen caps, reaction to Cara getting the foot massage.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 25, 2009, 02:40:14 PM
Either t
This is all that we get new from the golf insert .. sorry

Cara at the pool and Jamie, I assume from the other screen caps, reaction to Cara getting the foot massage.
Or she's covering her nose from all of the foot odor. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Belle Book on April 25, 2009, 08:20:07 PM
Maybe the swim caps explain why their hair isn't wet when they're at the Roadblock -- assuming that the Detour is before the Roadblock, of course.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: NoluckBoston on April 25, 2009, 09:09:39 PM
And yet still no Tammy and Victor.

Something must be up.

If you think about it. We have several shots of the racers all indoors. So even if Tammy and Victor were so far ahead or behind that it would mean the difference in outdoor lighting. How would we know? We only see indoor shots. One would think that CBS would still show shots of them at the various tasks.

Lets just say there was a fast forward left. We would most likely still see a shot of them in the previews.

I am thinking that something bad happens in route to Beijing. Either it is an non-elimination and they get that TK and Rachel edit, or they are eliminated and just pushed quickly to the mat to get Philiminated. 

Thoughts?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 25, 2009, 09:25:53 PM
According to the timeline, they're all supposed to get on the same flight to Beijing.  Maybe . . . a bad cab?

ETA: Or maybe a ill-advised risk on an earlier flight the detectives didn't find out about that didn't pay off?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Hooky on April 25, 2009, 09:27:53 PM
I think it's very likely that Tammy & Victor finish last this time. I'm not sure why they would neglect the last team on a non-elim, though. All I can say is, even though I know what the ignorance means, I'm having a hard time believing it could be true. Maybe something bad does happen to them. :ascared
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2009, 10:23:13 PM
According to the timeline, they're all supposed to get on the same flight to Beijing.  Maybe . . . a bad cab?

ETA: Or maybe a ill-advised risk on an earlier flight the detectives didn't find out about that didn't pay off?

Ashe:
If you can find any ill-adivsed flights from Guilin to Beijing, speak up. I can't find anything that beats the existing flights specified by me and by Neobie. I have relooked at nonstop to Beijing(which was covered in my previous work that you can see in the latest Timeline), connecting through Hong Kong, connecting through Shanghai and connecting through Shenzhen. Through Shenzhen there are no nonstops except for 3 bunched between 2215 and 2250 departure, but a connecting flight to Beijing from Shenzhen does not make it before the nonstops Guilin to Beijing and there is little chance that any of the teams could catch a 2215 flight anyway after a 12 hour pit stop.

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 25, 2009, 10:42:35 PM
I just hope nothing Hannah/Margalit-esque happens to them.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 25, 2009, 10:49:44 PM
If Victor is reading this then hes probably wondering why you all don't have some faith in him and Tammy and is  most likely  >>>:word: :hhello:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 26, 2009, 02:30:11 AM
If Victor is reading this then hes probably wondering why you all don't have some faith in him and Tammy and is  most likely  >>>:word: :hhello:
Huh.  Sounds like Kisha & Jen are the ones who finish last instead, then.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 05:40:56 AM
If Victor is reading this then hes probably wondering why you all don't have some faith in him and Tammy and is  most likely  >>>:word: :hhello:

It's only us Tammy/Victor fans who still have faith in the team despite CBS showing NONE OF THEM the whole week. I do think too that CBS wouldn't make a blatantly obvious footage that they're screwed. Even TK and Rachel who had mishaps in Osaka were seen in the next on segment...

And I also think that Ron and Chris also had that edit during the last few legs of the race... we almost saw none of them too in previews... Also remember the spoiler that they do not make it to Taiwan or they're hopelessly last? It's kinda unbelievable in itself that an Asian team, who have been to specifically that place, know the language, Chinese by blood, screw up so badly in a leg like that while others who I suppose will have a lot of communication problems get ahead of them... They do have the edge, just like R/C...

Oh yeah, if they indeed ever read this... Hi Victor and Tammy!!!  :jumpy: :wohoo: :hearts: :hearts:

Just an observation... if the last team checking in at this NEL point gets eliminated the next leg, ALL speed bumps this leg eliminated all those who used it...

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: realshowfan on April 26, 2009, 05:57:06 AM
Ooh...Imagine a leg has a Detour, and then Hours of Operation until the next day, and in that area, U-Turn. :o
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 06:17:21 AM
Ooh...Imagine a leg has a Detour, and then Hours of Operation until the next day, and in that area, U-Turn. :o

I don't think WRP would be doing such a thing... All Stars had gotten out of proportions with their hellish Zanzibar leg, I don't think they'd want that to happen again...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: apskip on April 26, 2009, 06:57:30 AM
Mooyou above stated:
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Just an observation... if the last team checking in at this NEL point gets eliminated the next leg, ALL speed bumps this leg eliminated all those who used it...

Mooyou, perhaps it has scaped your notice that ALL teams getting the Speed Bump start the next leg in last place. Geting out of last place typically requires a more than 30 minute gain since Speed Bumps ususally are about 30 minutes including transportation.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Moo on April 26, 2009, 07:12:02 AM
Mooyou above stated:
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Just an observation... if the last team checking in at this NEL point gets eliminated the next leg, ALL speed bumps this leg eliminated all those who used it...

Mooyou, perhaps it has scaped your notice that ALL teams getting the Speed Bump start the next leg in last place. Geting out of last place typically requires a more than 30 minute gain since Speed Bumps usually are about 30 minutes including transportation.


What I meant was all the teams spared by a non elimination leg got eliminated in their next leg when they had to do the Speed Bump. S13 saw Ken and Tina and Dandrew escape the horrors of the Speed Bump, while S12 had TK and Rachel escaping it and eventually winning. Sorry for the misinformation...

And yeah, all teams who actually survived their leg with a speedbump ended up in first, second or third place and gets to complete the whole race even.

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: realshowfan on April 26, 2009, 07:13:41 AM
Mooyou above stated:
Quote
Just an observation... if the last team checking in at this NEL point gets eliminated the next leg, ALL speed bumps this leg eliminated all those who used it...

Mooyou, perhaps it has scaped your notice that ALL teams getting the Speed Bump start the next leg in last place. Geting out of last place typically requires a more than 30 minute gain since Speed Bumps usually are about 30 minutes including transportation.


What I meant was all the teams spared by a non elimination leg got eliminated in their next leg when they had to do the Speed Bump. S13 saw Ken and Tina and Dandrew escape the horrors of the Speed Bump, while S12 had TK and Rachel escaping it and eventually winning. Sorry for the misinformation...

And yeah, all teams who actually survived their leg with a speedbump ended up in first, second or third place and gets to complete the whole race even.



If that is what will happen, then in future seasons, we can know who'll be in the final 3. :lol: jk
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: gator27 on April 26, 2009, 07:28:59 AM
CBS seems to be "winning" this episode so far.  Where are Tammy & Victor?

I wonder how CBS decides how to promote an episode?  Let's show scenery.  Let's show the team in the most trouble.  Let's show Phil ...  Do you suppose they have someone(s) read this board and advise them?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ray! on April 26, 2009, 07:34:19 AM
Off Topic: It would be cool if the team that finishes last this leg and, assuming it's an NEL, does a Speed Bump either: a) finishes last the next leg (following the other NELs this season) or b) finishes 2nd the next leg (following the F4 NELs with Speed Bumps).

On Topic: What gives?! It's around 12 hours until show time & still no Tammy/Victor in previews.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: gator27 on April 26, 2009, 07:38:38 AM




And I also think that Ron and Chris also had that edit during the last few legs of the race... we almost saw none of them too in previews... Also remember the spoiler that they do not make it to Taiwan or they're hopelessly last? It's kinda unbelievable in itself that an Asian team, who have been to specifically that place, know the language, Chinese by blood, screw up so badly in a leg like that while others who I suppose will have a lot of communication problems get ahead of them... They do have the edge, just like R/C...


Knowing the language does not matter if your taxi driver does not know how to get to the next clue box.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 26, 2009, 09:00:58 AM
Then all of the teams who are in an Australian leg should have an advantage because they all speak English. You can speak Mandarin all you want, but if you don't know the landscape, you're still at a disadvantage because you have to find out where you're going and it either depends on your sense of direction or your cab driver.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 10:11:56 AM
So I was trying to find out the store hours for the foot massage place thing, thinking Hours of Op....but according to this blog they are 24 hour facilities? :groan:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20041023.LOTUS23/TPStory/specialTravel

So we see Margie/Luke in the dark (taxi) post swimming looking happy about how they did, we can assume the foot massage is also at night...

So I don't see anyway to determine whether the RB or Detour is first with the info we have, other than trying to analyze wet hair/makeup, is that correct? ???
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: littlewop on April 26, 2009, 10:24:37 AM
I know I may sound like a broken record but... regarding the speculation that T/V were seen traveling with Phil & BVM...how reliable is the source?  Combine that with the fact that NO T/V seen in the previews is it possible that CBS is trying to hoodwink us? 
CBS does pay attention to these forums.  In other forums during other shows, it has been highly speculated that CBS has indeed been following the posts.  Since RFF is the BEST hands down when it comes to TAR, it would make sense that this is the forum they'd watch.  Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg?
Something is up.  How do T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated?  Something big must have happened.  And if that were the case, why no preview, such as with K/J and the "water issues".  You'd think they'd be promoting the heck out of it.
Just MHO and speculations!   :res:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Dånooky on April 26, 2009, 10:24:45 AM
On Topic: What gives?! It's around 12 hours until show time & still no Tammy/Victor in previews.

Maybe, just maybe, they didn't make anything interesting or worthy of previewing?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: hakushu8 on April 26, 2009, 10:35:11 AM
Does anyone know if it's alright to be getting foot massages before or after swimming/diving/being in the water? Or it doesn't matter? That might be a clue on whether the roadblock or detour comes first.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Belle Book on April 26, 2009, 11:01:47 AM
Does anyone know if it's alright to be getting foot massages before or after swimming/diving/being in the water? Or it doesn't matter? That might be a clue on whether the roadblock or detour comes first.


Personally, I think it would be better to get the type of foot massages I think the teams will be getting after the Detour.  If the foot massages are painful enough for Cara to say that having a baby's gotta be easier, then I'd rather have the Detour out of the way before getting to the Roadblock.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: apskip on April 26, 2009, 11:07:31 AM
I know I may sound like a broken record but... regarding the speculation that T/V were seen traveling with Phil & BVM...how reliable is the source?  Combine that with the fact that NO T/V seen in the previews is it possible that CBS is trying to hoodwink us? 
CBS does pay attention to these forums.  In other forums during other shows, it has been highly speculated that CBS has indeed been following the posts.  Since RFF is the BEST hands down when it comes to TAR, it would make sense that this is the forum they'd watch.  Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg?
Something is up.  How do T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated?  Something big must have happened.  And if that were the case, why no preview, such as with K/J and the "water issues".  You'd think they'd be promoting the heck out of it.
Just MHO and speculations!   :res:

I have no idea whether a sinister plot from CBS is happening (although I think not), but I do know that RFF requires inside information from CBS each week to fully anticipate an episode. When CBS elects to withhold some, as is their right anytime, it sure does throw this forum into a tizzy!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 11:09:03 AM
how reliable is the source?  

Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg?

Something is up.  How do T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated? 

how reliable is the source?   >>very, in my opinion

Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg? >>Considering the enormous effort it took me to track down the source and then get this info, then IMO, no way.



And medically speaking, I can think of no reason why either foot massages or swimming would need to either precede or follow the other.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 11:30:48 AM


I have no idea whether a sinister plot from CBS is happening (although I think not), but I do know that RFF requires inside information from CBS each week to fully anticipate an episode. When CBS elects to withhold some, as is their right anytime, it sure does throw this forum into a tizzy!

By inside info, I trust that you are referring ONLY to the promos and previews, right? Because, just to be very clear here,  RFF is certainly NOT given any "inside info from CBS" other than that which is released via mainstream media.

RFF works hard for what we get  :yess:, and I am very very proud of our  Detective  team!! I love TAR with a passion, and the "detecting" to fill in the gaps is an enormous part of the fun.

So yes we strongly suspect that CBS/WRP reads us, but no info from them has EVER been fed to RFF or a Detective, to the very best of my knowledge. It is the detailed, precise, timeconsuming analysis done in all the areas, from flights to hours reseaching locations/photos to screencap analysis to shadow estimations to tracking down sources and convincing them to share, that gives birth to our spoiler info...it is truly a labor of love for those of us with a passion for the show. Now do they base their promos on spoiler info? Have no earthly idea.

Just saying.... [/rant]

And now I am the one who is WAY :ot:   :lol:

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Neobie on April 26, 2009, 11:37:55 AM
So I was trying to find out the store hours for the foot massage place thing, thinking Hours of Op....but according to this blog they are 24 hour facilities?

My parents love to use those places as cheap hotels! You pay for three hours of massage, and they let you lie there on the bed (in a private room) the entire evening.

Also, some of most of these places double as prostitution dens, which could explain the 24h business...



I can say that the Tokyo spoiler is technically legit. The airlines, terminals they fly into, timings and geographical locations within the airport, all hold up very well. I don't think that anyone making this up could have got all of it correct.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: littlewop on April 26, 2009, 11:51:45 AM
how reliable is the source?  

Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg?

Something is up.  How do T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated? 

how reliable is the source?   >>very, in my opinion

Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg? >>Considering the enormous effort it took me to track down the source and then get this info, then IMO, no way.



And medically speaking, I can think of no reason why either foot massages or swimming would need to either precede or follow the other.

Thanks Peach!  I was hoping the info was wrong, but I figured you guys would make sure the info was accurate before passing it along.  You guys do an amazing job tracking down this info!  I for one appreciate it very much!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 12:06:24 PM
how reliable is the source?  

Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg?

Something is up.  How do T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated? 

how reliable is the source?   >>very, in my opinion

Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg? >>Considering the enormous effort it took me to track down the source and then get this info, then IMO, no way.



And medically speaking, I can think of no reason why either foot massages or swimming would need to either precede or follow the other.

Thanks Peach!  I was hoping the info was wrong, but I figured you guys would make sure the info was accurate before passing it along.  You guys do an amazing job tracking down this info!  I for one appreciate it very much!

:ghug:

What can I say, it is a passion and an obsession!  :-[ :funny: As well as the most fun ever!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: anon1akacolby on April 26, 2009, 12:11:07 PM
In the LA Times today they had a small blurb on tonight's episode.  There is a picture of Tammy and Victor running.  Have we seen this picture of them before?  I've racked my brain trying to recall if this was from a previous episode but I can't place it.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/tammyvictor2.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 12:15:03 PM
just butting in here, playing my videos back  :lol:

Jen & Kisha at slot 2? does that mean they are second to arrive at the pool? Don't know if it matters since Jen appears to hold them up at some point.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0060.jpg)

Margie at slot 3?
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0024.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 12:15:59 PM
In the LA Times today they had a small blurb on tonight's episode.  There is a picture of Tammy and Victor running.  Have we seen this picture of them before?  I've racked my brain trying to recall if this was from a previous episode but I can't place it.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/tammyvictor2.jpg)

Thanks Colby! That photo is from EP9 btw
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
Maybe thats Luke in the pool...as Margie dives
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: anon1akacolby on April 26, 2009, 12:25:26 PM
Quote
Thanks Colby! That photo is from EP9 btw


Darn!  I was hoping it was a missing pic of Tammy & Victor from today's episode. 
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 12:27:24 PM
Some of you think the detour option is dive or swim?

vest/cap on vest/cap off

It's 2 seperate pools

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0037-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0037-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0038-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0038-1.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0039-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0039-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0040-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0040-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0005-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0005-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 12:32:43 PM
Theres Margie watching Luke for the footy, I can't tell if she is wet.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0036-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0041-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0005-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0004-1.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Coutzy on April 26, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Some of you think the detour option is dive or swim?

vest/cap on vest/cap off

It's 2 seperate pools

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0037-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0037-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0038-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0038-1.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0039-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0039-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0040-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0040-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0005-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0005-1.jpg)

Wouldn't it make sense to have a different pool for swimming and diving though?

I think that's what they usually do because they need to make the diving pool deeper (Somebody else probably knows more on this subject than I do.)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 12:36:30 PM
The girls wear caps to its hard to say if wet or not

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0010.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/th_rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/ep10/rff-0011-1.jpg) (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18646.0;attach=112496;image)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 01:24:22 PM
I know I may sound like a broken record but... regarding the speculation that T/V were seen traveling with Phil & BVM...how reliable is the source?  Combine that with the fact that NO T/V seen in the previews is it possible that CBS is trying to hoodwink us? 
CBS does pay attention to these forums.  In other forums during other shows, it has been highly speculated that CBS has indeed been following the posts.  Since RFF is the BEST hands down when it comes to TAR, it would make sense that this is the forum they'd watch.  Is it possible we were fed false info regarding the flight sightings in the last leg?
Something is up.  How do T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated?   Something big must have happened.  And if that were the case, why no preview, such as with K/J and the "water issues".  You'd think they'd be promoting the heck out of it.
Just MHO and speculations!   :res:
Why repeat a question that was already addressed in the speculation thread? and if you think you sound like a broken record then you should know better than to ask again.

Quote
How do T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated?
Where is this written? Where do you read that T/V go from seconds out of first place to possibly the next eliminated? What leg are you talking about? this leg? next leg? last leg?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Coutzy on April 26, 2009, 01:27:28 PM
I think littlewop was referring to the fact that they were only a few seconds off first on the last leg, and now since we are not seeing anything of them in the previews, people have started speculating that they are going to be eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 26, 2009, 01:42:49 PM
I think littlewop was referring to the fact that they were only a few seconds off first on the last leg, and now since we are not seeing anything of them in the previews, people have started speculating that they are going to be eliminated.
Or at least fall far back, as they weren't seen at all.  They could still be in it and just weren't seen, but I don't know.  Do you, puddin?  I mean, you did outright say that Christie & Jodi would get booted in India, and that Phuket wasn't an NEL.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: mswood on April 26, 2009, 01:45:23 PM
On the subject of the punishment for Non Eliminations.  Originally there was none.  Being last on a non elimination just meant you left last.  Then it was a removal of cash for the next leg, where teams ended up begging in some very poor countries and that had no real impact on the race.  Then it was stripping on money and possessions and again it had to real impact on the race.

Then they created the either you arrive first or get hit with a 30 minute penalty.  That only impacted David & Mary who actually arrived in third (with Bama fourth) and were eliminated.  Every other team that got eliminated arrived in last place and the penalty was not a factor.

Then we switched to the speed bump concept.  Now in season 12 that helped to eliminated Kynt & Vyxsin (though the had the option of Yielded Jen & Nathan and that would have spared them).

Season 13 no one was eliminated due to the speedbump.

This season so far two teams have been eliminated and in each one it was clear in footage that each team could have made up the difference in the tasks.  

So clearly they are designed that teams do have the option (if thy are fast) to stay alive.

And frankly I like it (and the last type the 30 minute penalty), I think you should have to prove that you deserve to still be in the race.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: mswood on April 26, 2009, 01:49:08 PM
Well in general with this being the 10th out of 12 legs that we are assuming that this is the last non elimination (or by some odd chance the 1st part of a tbc leg).

Its been a while since they would have had an elimination on this leg and then have three teams running for the last two legs (though it has happened in earlier years, its just been a while).

And any team could go from first to worse.  Only rarely has the show produced legs where their is no form of equalization at all (even if not all teams get equalized) I know the leg that Lorena & Jason got eliminated on was a completely linear leg with no points of equalization (and at the time that was only the 2nd leg in race history designed like that). 
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: littlewop on April 26, 2009, 01:52:18 PM
I think littlewop was referring to the fact that they were only a few seconds off first on the last leg, and now since we are not seeing anything of them in the previews, people have started speculating that they are going to be eliminated.

Thank you, that is what I meant.  That is why I used the word POSSIBLY in my post.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: serendipity on April 26, 2009, 01:56:20 PM
Do we have any information that there is only 1 FF in this season? Because it seems like there are 2 FFs every season since season 5, including the un-aired ones.  Since we only had 1 FF in this season (the un-aired one in Phuket,  Thailand) so far, if there would be another FF in this season, it has to be in this episode.  Does anyone here think it is possible?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: colav10 on April 26, 2009, 02:16:52 PM
The previews (to me at least) indicate without a doubt that the foot massage comes before the swimming. A few examples:

1. Margies' hair is dry while watching Luke at foot massage, then is clearly wet in the taxi (after swim)
2. Indications are teams arrive in Bejing during the evening and Kisha & Jen are at the pool(s) with daylight showing through the windows.

Just MHO however.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 02:24:16 PM
I think littlewop was referring to the fact that they were only a few seconds off first on the last leg, and now since we are not seeing anything of them in the previews, people have started speculating that they are going to be eliminated.
Or at least fall far back, as they weren't seen at all.  They could still be in it and just weren't seen, but I don't know.  Do you, puddin?  I mean, you did outright say that Christie & Jodi would get booted in India, and that Phuket wasn't an NEL.
I'll predict no one is eliminated tonight.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 26, 2009, 03:31:57 PM
Do we have any information that there is only 1 FF in this season? Because it seems like there are 2 FFs every season since season 5, including the un-aired ones.  Since we only had 1 FF in this season (the un-aired one in Phuket,  Thailand) so far, if there would be another FF in this season, it has to be in this episode.  Does anyone here think it is possible?
I'm going to go with the TAR Detectives on this one. They have steadfast said there was only one FF in this season and it was unused. Don't forget, CBS cut budget this season reducing the numbers of days traveled and also some more expensive things on the race like the FF.

If the TAR Detectives say they have it on good authority that there was only one FF this season, then you can go with it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Ashe on April 26, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
I think littlewop was referring to the fact that they were only a few seconds off first on the last leg, and now since we are not seeing anything of them in the previews, people have started speculating that they are going to be eliminated.
Or at least fall far back, as they weren't seen at all.  They could still be in it and just weren't seen, but I don't know.  Do you, puddin?  I mean, you did outright say that Christie & Jodi would get booted in India, and that Phuket wasn't an NEL.
I'll predict no one is eliminated tonight.
But who'll hit that mat last tonight?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 26, 2009, 04:05:54 PM
I think littlewop was referring to the fact that they were only a few seconds off first on the last leg, and now since we are not seeing anything of them in the previews, people have started speculating that they are going to be eliminated.
Or at least fall far back, as they weren't seen at all.  They could still be in it and just weren't seen, but I don't know.  Do you, puddin?  I mean, you did outright say that Christie & Jodi would get booted in India, and that Phuket wasn't an NEL.
I'll predict no one is eliminated tonight.
But who'll hit that mat last tonight?
The team that finishes 4th! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Mister RC on April 26, 2009, 04:13:31 PM
Do we have any information that there is only 1 FF in this season? Because it seems like there are 2 FFs every season since season 5, including the un-aired ones.  Since we only had 1 FF in this season (the un-aired one in Phuket,  Thailand) so far, if there would be another FF in this season, it has to be in this episode.  Does anyone here think it is possible?
I'm going to go with the TAR Detectives on this one. They have steadfast said there was only one FF in this season and it was unused. Don't forget, CBS cut budget this season reducing the numbers of days traveled and also some more expensive things on the race like the FF.

If the TAR Detectives say they have it on good authority that there was only one FF this season, then you can go with it.

For real.  It's all about that budget.  BTW, I forgot who asked me "Why not?"  in terms of why there will never be 15 episodes (or at least in TAR15).  It might not have been here, but since CBS cut the budget, it was nothing more than a typo.  Even if the budget was a non-issue, there wouldn't be 15 episodes, as it would cut into Survivor, the holidays, and Big Brother.  As much as they could push those shows to make room for TAR, that's nothing more than wishful thinking.

Anyway, as far as this FF thing goes, even with an awesome budget, I hardly think that we'll be seeing more than 2 per race again.  No need to spend money (infinite or no) on something that people might forgo.  Though it would help if the FF tasks were better than they've been over the past few seasons (IMO, they pretty much sucked).  I have to admit that it's a shame about the FF, regardless.  At this rate, it might get phased out completely.

Regardless, it's one of those things that I think I deal with, as I'm thankful we're still getting seasons of TAR.  It is the most expensive reality show right now.  Though if the tight budget is the main reason, I think they might want to consider going back to the Mark-For-Elimination penalty, as that didn't involve an extra task.


As for the episode, I don't think anyone will be booted tonight either.  Good think too, since I'm actually hoping Tammy/Victor make it to the end.  They've been pretty consistent throughout the race.  Although as mentioned, it's been a while since they've had three teams only in the last TWO legs.  That actually used to be the norm for seven of the first nine TARs.  Then since they moved TAR to Sunday with a one-hour finale, they've gone back to having the 4th-place finishers leave on the penultimate leg.  I wonder if they'd actually do that if the finale was a two-hour, two leg show (it's happened before, I know).  Finally, I'm actually hoping that someday, they'll have the 4th place team exit with two legs to go, because it would be interesting to see how one team would perform with a speedbump on the $1 Million leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: realshowfan on April 26, 2009, 04:27:48 PM
So...much...words. lol :o

I'm guessing T/V are not in previews because they have no problem in the leg and end up well ahead of the others.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Dånooky on April 26, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
And frankly I like it (and the last type the 30 minute penalty), I think you should have to prove that you deserve to still be in the race.

 :ythat:

I agree. The speedbump and marked for elimination was the perfect penalty because it didn't give away a free pass (like seasons 1-4), nor did they put teams at a completely unfair disadvantage (5-9). I wouldn't mind getting rid of the FF.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Snooky on April 26, 2009, 04:33:37 PM
And frankly I like it (and the last type the 30 minute penalty), I think you should have to prove that you deserve to still be in the race.

 :ythat:

I agree. The speedbump and marked for elimination was the perfect penalty because it didn't give away a free pass (like seasons 1-4), nor did they put teams at a completely unfair disadvantage (5-9). I wouldn't mind getting rid of the FF.
To me the FF is one of the many best and classic parts of TAR.  It wouldn't seem the same without it.  Just like this season...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: realshowfan on April 26, 2009, 04:45:51 PM
Yeah. There should be like 2/3 FF's in a season, that's my preference. It gives a rush-adrenaline thing.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 04:55:47 PM
So...much...words. lol :o

I'm guessing T/V are not in previews because they have no problem in the leg and end up well ahead of the others.

I'll guess you are right realshowfan and I'll make a guess at the placings, my speculation!
Tammy & Victor #1
Luke & Marge #2
Jamie & Cara #3
The sisters fall behind whether its because they switched detours or were U-Turned I have no idea then with Jens fear hyped up I'll guess they are last and marked with the so called speed bump  in the next leg.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 05:14:52 PM
I'll predict no one is eliminated tonight.

Me too. :)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: FLFan on April 26, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
So...much...words. lol :o

I'm guessing T/V are not in previews because they have no problem in the leg and end up well ahead of the others.

<snip>

I was fast forwarding thru the golf from this afternoon and noticed that one of the TAR previews showed Tammy and Victor diving.  They jumped off the diving boards at almost the same time.  I didn't notice any other shots that we hadn't already seen in other previews.  However, I was fast forwarding and looking for the TAR promos and might have missed one.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 05:27:42 PM
About what time FLFan? puddin can snag it if she know when...
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 05:36:57 PM
So...much...words. lol :o

I'm guessing T/V are not in previews because they have no problem in the leg and end up well ahead of the others.

<snip>

I was fast forwarding thru the golf from this afternoon and noticed that one of the TAR previews showed Tammy and Victor diving.  They jumped off the diving boards at almost the same time.  I didn't notice any other shots that we hadn't already seen in other previews.  However, I was fast forwarding and looking for the TAR promos and might have missed one.
I have it all recorded FLFan and if you give me a time it would help as I was watching Nascar here and there so wasn't watching the golf every minute.

I'll predict no one is eliminated tonight.

Me too. :)
  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: Pedaler on April 26, 2009, 05:42:56 PM
I'll predict no one is eliminated tonight.

Me too. :)

It's been a few seasons since I've been in this thread, but Me three.   

Especially since Phil and not an eliminated team will be on Bonnie this week.   :-[

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as I was watching Nascar here

That sure was an exciting finish.  I also have to admit that it was a lot more thrilling than the teams pedaling around Talledega during Race 8.   :groan:

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Post by: colav10 on April 26, 2009, 05:49:09 PM
My guess for pit stop order is:

1) Tammy/Victor
2) Margie/Luke
3) Cara/Jamie
4) Lakisha/Jen (Non-Elimination)

This is based on pure speculation and the commericals.
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 05:49:17 PM
I'll predict no one is eliminated tonight.

Me too. :)

It's been a few seasons since I've been in this thread, but Me three.  

Especially since Phil and not an eliminated team will be on Bonnie this week.   :-[

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as I was watching Nascar here

That sure was an exciting finish.  I also have to admit that it was a lot more thrilling than the teams pedaling around Talledega during Race 8.   :groan:


Pedaler  :waves: :hearts:!! Well Bonnie Hunt is not a good source for spoilers as she does not have all the eliminated teams, most recently Mike & Mel but being as its down to the end one would think she would have the last eliminated team on.
On the finish at Talledega today, if i had missed that due to watching golf for TAR promos I'd really really be mad at myself  :jam: ..... this is why i watch Nascar!  :yess: :jam:
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Post by: FLFan on April 26, 2009, 05:51:45 PM
About what time FLFan? puddin can snag it if she know when...

May be after 3 PM.  or at least around that.  I think it was after a nice shot of green bushes with white flowers with a water feature in the background, if that helps.  No golfers, just a vista shot.

It was one of those small frames buried in the corner promos at least on my station.  It was also a short promo.  Tammy and Victor diving was at the start.  Victor was hidden by a promo "ribbon", but Tammy was easy to detect.  However, Victor and Tammy were both clearly visible once they left the diving board.
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Post by: Ashe on April 26, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
I'm guessing T/V are not in previews because they have no problem in the leg and end up well ahead of the others.
Yeah, but then, they'd have been shown doing one task, at least.  They could indeed be in front, but to be completely excluded from the previews?  They could very well be behind, as well.

ETA: Never mind.  It appears they finally showed up in one.
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Post by: FLFan on April 26, 2009, 06:05:56 PM
About what time FLFan? puddin can snag it if she know when...

May be after 3 PM.  or at least around that.  I think it was after a nice shot of green bushes with white flowers with a water feature in the background, if that helps.  No golfers, just a vista shot.

It was one of those small frames buried in the corner promos at least on my station.  It was also a short promo.  Tammy and Victor diving was at the start.  Victor was hidden by a promo "ribbon", but Tammy was easy to detect.  However, Victor and Tammy were both clearly visible once they left the diving board.

If it helps, the water feature was on the right of the screen and the bushes took up most of the left and into the lower center.
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Post by: hakushu8 on April 26, 2009, 06:15:02 PM
There's been some posts speculating on the lanes that teams were in. Kisha/Jen in 2nd, Margie/Luke in 3rd. Does this photo mean Jaime/Cara were in lane 1? I think this is the Swimming task, btw. i can kinda see 4 on the lane "stone" to the right of the attendants pants.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18646.0;attach=112496;image)

This photo makes Jaime look like her dance instructor last leg... :funny:

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18646.0;attach=112497;image)
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Post by: Ashe on April 26, 2009, 06:23:17 PM
There's been some posts speculating on the lanes that teams were in. Kisha/Jen in 2nd, Margie/Luke in 3rd. Does this photo mean Jaime/Cara were in lane 1? I think this is the Swimming task, btw. i can kinda see 4 on the lane "stone" to the right of the attendants pants.

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18646.0;attach=112496;image)

This photo makes Jaime look like her dance instructor last leg... :funny:

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18646.0;attach=112497;image)
That could be their lane, unless they don't like they're close enough to it.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 06:42:28 PM
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Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 06:48:43 PM
At 8x the speed I'm just not seeing it FLFan but I'll take your word for it  :tup:. In less than 15 minutes we will know all! :jumpy:
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Post by: georgiapeach on April 26, 2009, 08:04:06 PM
SAFE TO RESUME POSTING, show is done here!!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: redskevin88 on April 26, 2009, 08:19:03 PM

Season 13 no one was eliminated due to the speedbump.

Not that they tried really hard to stay in the race, well maybe Dandrew did... Kelly and Christy did everything in their power to get eliminated in the second India leg, while Toni/Dallas were eliminated because of their passports, they lost it...  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:30:02 PM
rewatching EP10 and will post some screencaps, I know there are future confessionals in here

Jen talking about not being a good swimmer at all
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:44:40 PM
first up

Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:49:32 PM
YouTube is really slowing me down tonight  :knuckles:


T/V talk about Beijing and how being here before has given  them a huge advantage
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:51:43 PM
40 big ones
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
flight stuff a bit fuzzy
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 08:58:53 PM
T/V lobby for the best seats  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:03:40 PM
I also found it interesting that Tammy & Victor explained the pitstop fight to Cara and Jamie who had no idea what had went down.

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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:10:29 PM
mm some screen caps
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
clue
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:18:46 PM
aww Luke & Tammy hold hands while getting the massage ,, Tammy took it like a trooper!
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
Jen and Kisha : is this the same guy? They all look a like  :lol: (while looking for a taxi to the detour)
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:27:49 PM
things get a little nasty here
T/V help J/C find a driver that knows where the detour is at....... and when Tammy attempts to grab the cab Jamie says "its not going to happen sister"
Victor tells her to let them have it

In the cab Tammy comments that they told J/C driver where to go
Jamie comments that theres something slippery going on with T/V and that it gets tiring but they'll just keep fighting
Tammy in her cab comments that Jamie scares her :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:30:04 PM
the never ending detours .......
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:30:50 PM
Tammy and Victor "we are not swimmers"
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:31:48 PM
 :jam:  :hearts:
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:32:50 PM
Jen"I'm not a good swimmer at all.."
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:34:52 PM
T/V look so cute!
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:39:14 PM
They all were so funny trying to get into the spandex  :lol:
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:41:57 PM
Marge & Luke confessional!
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:46:49 PM
fake pitstop
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Post by: puddin on April 26, 2009, 09:53:00 PM
the thing about the sink.dive detour option was that you had to wait turns

Cara and Jamie wanted first SO bad  :'(
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Post by: Boingo on April 26, 2009, 11:19:19 PM
 :wohoo: just finished watching tonight's Beijing episode... and the cheerleaders had me ROFLMAO.  :lol:  from the foot massage torture... to the snide remarks... to the breathless race to the (fake) pitstop only to find out it's a TBC... priceless!  These two should have a show of their own.  If BVM doesn't submit this episode for Emmy consideration, then he's insane.  BEST EPISODE EVER!!!!  :tup:

Hat's off to the editors... they really made this a great show.   They are true masters of their craft.  :yess:
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Post by: Dånooky on April 27, 2009, 05:23:57 AM
I found it cool that Cara finally stepped up and told Jaime to shut up :lol:
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 08:41:29 AM
You're in pain and the last thing you need to hear is, "You better do this, Cara or I'm going to kill you!" :lol:
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Post by: scruffs on April 27, 2009, 09:27:19 AM
Too bad for jamie and cara, they have been wanting a first place finish and Phil just gave them a

"Jamie and Cara, you're the first team to arrive, however this leg is not yet over, here is your next clue" (not exact words)

it is really a heart-breaker for the cheerleaders.... :(
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: littlewop on April 27, 2009, 12:16:56 PM
I am loving these episodes in China!  I enjoy hearing Tammy & Victor talk the language.  They seem to have so much more personality when they know the other teams can't understand them. 
               
                                                        :hearts:
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Post by: Ruth on April 27, 2009, 12:39:30 PM
Cara and Jaime - These girls aren't having much luck at all are they. First is their problem with the cab drivers and now when they finally snag a first-place, Phil has to tell them it's a TBC. When Phil told them in a grave tone that they're the first team, I thought that they'd incurred a penalty. Turned out it was a TBC. Cool, first time a TBC's placed in the final four eh. Exciting.

Margie and Luke - Nothing much from them this episode, other than their ongoing feud with Kisha and Jen. They rocked the Detour though, gotta give them props for that.

Tammy and Victor - Aww, was hoping they could finish first again. It was too bad their cab driver got lost, otherwise they'd have been first at the Roadblock. And if they'd done the Swim Detour, they could have been first due to their lead. But anyway, I'm still loving them, love how they told the airport staff to put the other teams as back as possible lol.

Kisha and Jen - I was so moved by their sisterly love. No more yelling, no more bickering, loads of encouragement. Love how they perservered through even though they can't really swim!

This is the best final four ever, love all four teams and I'd hate to see any of them go.
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Post by: apskip on April 27, 2009, 01:57:25 PM
I found it cool that Cara finally stepped up and told Jaime to shut up :lol:

cdfe88, that's only for one small part of one episode. Since it will be a major issue next week, do you expect Cara to step up again?
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on April 27, 2009, 02:04:02 PM
So is that what you focused on as well?
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Post by: Dånooky on April 27, 2009, 02:32:03 PM
I found it cool that Cara finally stepped up and told Jaime to shut up :lol:

cdfe88, that's only for one small part of one episode. Since it will be a major issue next week, do you expect Cara to step up again?
I would be glad if she did, but probably she won't *sulk*
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: puddin on April 28, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
:wohoo: just finished watching tonight's Beijing episode... and the cheerleaders had me ROFLMAO.  :lol:  from the foot massage torture... to the snide remarks... to the breathless race to the (fake) pitstop only to find out it's a TBC... priceless!  These two should have a show of their own.  If BVM doesn't submit this episode for Emmy consideration, then he's insane.  BEST EPISODE EVER!!!!  :tup:

Hat's off to the editors... they really made this a great show.   They are true masters of their craft.  :yess:
I meant to comment on this Boingo and I agree with you, Jamie & Cara are an editors dream! They are entertaining and Golden! Hats off to the casting department as well as the editors  :hearts:
I agree with you all that say this is probably one of the best final 4 teams in years although I do wish some of the cast had made it farther but still I'm not complaining.  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP10: Having a Baby’s Gotta Be Easier Than This (China)
Post by: jerseydude on April 28, 2009, 07:07:05 AM
I really think that in this leg, Jamie and Cara acted like so poorly, especially with the Taxis. They were saying Guan Kai when it should be Guan Cai and if Tammy hadn't said it to the Taxi driver, he wouldn't have know...I'm like what is wrong with you ( I'm a Tammy and Victor Supported). I speak fluent Chinese and have been to Beijing and trust me only a few amount of people speak english and they wouldn't understand it.