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Title: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 09:46:29 PM
Any nonsense will be deleted such as route wish lists etc or dream teams.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 02, 2008, 09:49:43 PM
We have our first independent blog sighting of what could be TAR14 underway!!! :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

Hopefully we can find out more details to confirm. :wohoo:

Saturday, November 1, 2008
From Flip-Flops to Snow Shoes
 

Matty left last night. We all went to the airport to see him off. He had two bags packed solid, and a carry-on with 10 hours worth of books and music. His seat assignment: 38E--the absolute center of the plane in a center seat for t-e-n hours. He left in jeans and a t-shirt, and tied to his bag, was a snow jacket and zip-up fleece. This California boy is trading in his flip-flops for the snowy slopes of Switzerland. Davos, Switzerland to be exact. He will be blogging about his journey, so check it out when you can. He already has a few stories, including running into the Amazing Race contestants at the Frankfurt airport!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 02, 2008, 10:10:39 PM
And the link to Matty's own blog from his sisters blog posted above (sharing the credit with puddin for this)  :kuss:

Saturday, November 1, 2008
Day One- Sorry it is so long!
Wow, I am finally here and it is freezing! What a day God gave me today. It started with a wonderful send off in Portland with my family and Kirsten; incredibly blessed to have them in my life. I had a direct flight from Portland to Frankfurt, Germany and sat next to a sweet elderly lady that literally talked to me every moment I was either awake or had my headphones off. She and her husband are on the tail end of their 20 year traveling time or experience or however you'd like to word it. And yes, I said 20 years, they have basically spent my entire life traveling! She proceeded to tell me stories from Africa, Australia, China...Fiji, Argentina, Peru...you get the picture. I was able to sleep for the first two hours of the flight, then I watched the new Indiana Jones movie (not all that good) and Leatherheads (also not very good); so I talked with my new friend most of each movie.
Once I hit Frankfurt, I realized two things that I immediately regretted not bringing. A watch would have come in quite handy walking through an airport where there are virtually no clocks. Plus, my phone couldn't find service so I couldn't use it as a source of time. So I sat down on my computer thinking I could check my email and Skype some people and 10 minutes into using my computer it dies. Where's my power cord? In my checked luggage...fantastic. I was able to reach my lovely mother, however. I decided just to walk to my gate and hang out there and read until my flight boarded, but to my surprise I had the Amazing Race in my waiting room and on my flight. There were 7 teams of two hanging around being interviewed by the crew with their huge cameras and all. Lucky me I was the only one in the whole crowd they decided to interview! So I had two teams come up to me with their camera crew and talk to me about who I am, where I'm from, and a ton of other random questions. I had to fill out a release form so they could put me on TV and everything! Pretty crazy, right?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 10:15:13 PM
My apologies to gonzalochileno  :tup:

Hi Guys, I Read It In The Amazing Race Wiki: I live in Ticino, the southern part of Switzerland. Today I saw two separate groups of two people with backpacks running around town, followed by a cameraman and a 4th person. I noticed they were speaking American English.

This was especially strange because I normally hear American-accented English perhaps once or twice a month, even though this place is pretty touristy. Additionally, I saw these Americans talking to a PRIEST outside of church and being filmed doing so. Seriously, what tourists talk to a priest (on camera)?  :yess:

So... One Of The Destinations Is Locarno, Switzerland.  :tup:

 Is the Amazing Race in Locarno, Ticino? (date posted Nov 1 2008, )

SwissMiss08
Is the Amazing Race in Locarno, Ticino?
Yesterday, 4:48 PM EDT

I live in Ticino, the southern part of Switzerland. Today I saw two separate groups of two people with backpacks running around town, followed by a cameraman and a 4th person. I noticed they were speaking American English.

This was especially strange because I normally hear American-accented English perhaps once or twice a month, even though this place is pretty touristy. Additionally, I saw these Americans talking to a PRIEST outside of church and being filmed doing so. Seriously, what tourists talk to a priest (on camera)?

Short of waiting for season 14 to air, is there any way to find out if this was, in fact, the Amazing Race.
      


venzin77 RE: Is the Amazing Race in Locarno, Ticino?
Today, 3:52 PM EST

Yes the amazing race is in Switzerland y help one couple, y make police man job.

Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my ..... :)


Wiki/Wetpaint (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/2031565/Is+the+Amazing+Race+in+Locarno,+Ticino%3F?t=anon)  
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 10:33:53 PM
Awesome find Mrs Shrek! And don't listen to her, I deserve no credit it was all Mrs Shreks doing!!

 :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: michael on November 02, 2008, 10:44:23 PM
Awesome find Mrs Shrek! And don't listen to her, I deserve no credit it was all Mrs Shreks doing!!

 :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

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Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my .....   

what?!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 02, 2008, 10:47:43 PM
And don't listen to her, I deserve no credit it was all Mrs Shreks doing!!


 :neener: La la la. I'm not listening....I've given credit where credit is due - the second blog was def a team effort :kuss:

so what you gonna do? Ban me? LOL :meow:

 :angel:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: puddin on November 02, 2008, 10:56:25 PM

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Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my .....  

what?!
Sounds like hes a fan of the show Michael and perhaps helped 2 girls? He says hes a cop and heres his profile pic (http://i33.[banned image hosting site].com/bcw09.jpg)




so what you gonna do? Ban me? LOL :meow:

 :angel:
You know that can never happen Mrs Shrek :lol: :hugs: :kuss:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 03, 2008, 03:32:54 AM
I'm not even going to pretend that I can do the flight wizardry that some of the other detectives do, but I was just working out what we already know from the blog details.
The sister's blog posted on Nov 1 at 4:25pm says that Matt left 'last night'. In the family photo on her blog the bro-in-law is wearing a watch that someone might be able to read - it looks like 1:50 to me, :duno: which suggests Matty departed early evening, which may help work out approx what time he arrived in Frankfurt on the Saturday.
Matty had a had a direct flight from Portland (Oregon I think) to Frankfurt, Germany which took 10 hours. On arrival in Frankfurt it is assumed he went pretty directly to his next gate to 'hang out there and read until his flight boarded', after his laptop ran out of battery power (about 10 mins). The 7 AR teams were already at the gate, and were on his next flight to Zurich. While there are a number of different airlines that fly to Zurich from Frankfurt, only the Lufthansa/SwissAir codeshare flights seem to be non stop, and as they fly regularly thru the day, and as the flight only takes about 55 mins, I can't imagine the teams choosing one of the other airlines with their longer layovers unless they had to, but someone else may come up with a viable alternative....
Matty's blog was posted after he had arrived in Zurich and met the rest of the team at 11am  (I assume that would have to be PST, which equates to about 8pm Weston European Time?) which should help narrow the window for pinpointing what flight the teams could have been on (assuming I've interpreted the data correctly)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Neobie on November 03, 2008, 06:25:49 AM
The first spoiler of a season is always what gets me jumpy and breathless! You guys are great!

Hmm, a 7/4 split for the first flight?

The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min. Portland, Maine doesn't have a direct flight to Frankfurt - and it'd take a much shorter time too if it did!

Only Lufthansa and Swiss Air for the Frankfurt > Zurich leg, and it looks like they're running codeshare. Here're the possible options:
LH5052/LX1071, 1015-1120
LH3726/LX3605, 1200-1255
LH3728/LX3607, 1305-1400

And... There're plenty of trains (departure times differ by less than an hour) from Zurich Airport to Locarno, taking a little over 3 hours with a couple of connections. They'd be able to make it there the same day, albeit in the afternoon. First one gets them in at 1606, provided they can hop on by 1147.



Frankfurt is the airport serving the most destinations worldwide. Not much hope of finding where they start, eh? But if we assume it's straight from the US to Frankfurt, we have the following 21 cities as candidates, with all flights getting in before noon:

The good news? Looks like the LA flight gets in too late for the racers to be lounging around before Matty gets to Frankfurt!

Lufthansa: Atlanta (1810-0900), Boston (1635-0525), Chicago (1433-0545, 1545-0710, 1848-1015), Dallas (1620-0905), Denver (1715-1100), Detroit (1810-0755), Houston (1630-0905), Los Angeles (1435-1025), Miami (1605-0650), New York (1550-0525, 2145-1110), Newark (1810-0750), Orlando (2030-1125), Philadelphia (1635-0615, 1805-0805), Portland (1335-0905), San Francisco (1348-0945, 1430-1020), Seattle (1455-1005), Washington DC (1722-0710, 1750-0730, 1914-0915, 2155-1140)

*deep breath*

United: Chicago (1433-0545, 1545-0710, 1848-1015), San Francisco (1348-0945, 1430-1020), Washington DC (1722-0710, 1750-0730, 1914-0915, 2155-1140)
American: Chicago (1930-1105), Dallas (1445-0705)
Delta: Atlanta (1635-0740), Cincinnati (1925-0955), New York (1910-0930)
Northwest: Detroit (1710-0720)
Continental: Newark (1915-0915)
US Airways: Charlotte (2015-1050), Philadelphia (1635-0615)
Singapore: New York (2100-1050)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 10:30:31 AM
More from SwissMiss08 in reply to my questions.

From: SwissMiss08

I first approached the plaza piazza sant'antonio around 6pm (it gets dark here around 5:30pm now).  It is a little plaza in the old city (citta vecchia) which has some parking spots.  I tried to park my car and was waved away.  And there was a priest standing in front of the church, outside.  They did not appear to have been standing there for long.  It looked like they were just getting set up.

I drove past, parked, and walked back past around 6:15.  I saw a team, a short woman and a tall man with backpacks, frantically talking to the priest (or perhaps frantically talking to each other near the priest).  The woman was the one talking.  They may have been middle aged, not sure, I was never very close.

The restaurant I was heading to was closed until 7pm, so I turned around and walked past the church/plaza again, this time only the priest and a few others were standing around.  I went down to the Piazza Grande and sat in a bar waiting for the restaurant to open.

Around 7, I was again heading up towards the plaza AGAIN when we were passed by a team heading down the street, towards the vicinity of the Piazza Grande or the castle, we thought.  This team was two younger people (early to mid 20s).  I think the woman I saw was blond, but not sure.  She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more.  The "producer" (ie 4th person in group, not carrying a backpack or camera) stopped her to adjust her shirt or necklace as they walked down the street.

After this second encounter we figured out it was the amazing race, so we walked back to the plaza, yet AGAIN after dinner around 8:45.  The plaza was empty, no priest.  But all the parking spots were cordoned off.  This was not the case previously.  So we wondered if more teams were coming, and the "priest" had just gone inside to get warm.

We then walked down to the Piazza Grande and the Castle, but neither of those locations was in use.
Title: Speculation on season 14
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 12:13:56 PM
From this article (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15354.msg331720.html#msg331720)

Van Munster, who is currently scouting locations in Asia for the 14th season, ...
Title: Re: Speculation on season 14
Post by: puddin on November 03, 2008, 12:19:18 PM
Found by Slowhatch, I think its cool stuff

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Any underground news?
Nope; if anybody knows, he (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/3AB/448) does.

Craig ForrestWorld Savvy Film/TV/Media Producer-Director
Greater Los Angeles Area

Craig Forrest’s Experience
Travel Coordinator
World Race Productions
(Broadcast Media industry)

July 2008 — Present (5 months)

• "The Amazing Race 14" (Jerry Bruckheimer Television/Touchstone Television/CBS Network).

and Craigs resume  (http://www.craigforrest.com/)  :tup:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 14
Post by: Slowhatch on November 03, 2008, 06:55:27 PM
And his wishlist fwiw:
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Countries on Hit List: Nepal, Laos, Brunei, Tahiti, Fiji, Jamaica, Bermuda, Uruguay, Paraguay, Belize
Title: Re: Speculation on season 14
Post by: georgiapeach on November 03, 2008, 07:45:42 PM
So is his "hit List " places he wants/likes to Hit--or places that are "shoot me" before I go there again?? ???

I like this guy--he seems to have a great sense of humor...

AND he owns a kilt!  :angel: :-[ :angel:
Title: Re: Speculation on season 14
Post by: patlini on November 03, 2008, 07:49:47 PM
they could do England on Guy Fawkes night - Nov 5th
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Chateau d If on November 04, 2008, 11:39:01 AM
The first spoiler of a season is always what gets me jumpy and breathless! You guys are great!

Hmm, a 7/4 split for the first flight?

The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min. Portland, Maine doesn't have a direct flight to Frankfurt - and it'd take a much shorter time too if it did!

Only Lufthansa and Swiss Air for the Frankfurt > Zurich leg, and it looks like they're running codeshare. Here're the possible options:
LH5052/LX1071, 1015-1120
LH3726/LX3605, 1200-1255
LH3728/LX3607, 1305-1400

And... There're plenty of trains (departure times differ by less than an hour) from Zurich Airport to Locarno, taking a little over 3 hours with a couple of connections. They'd be able to make it there the same day, albeit in the afternoon. First one gets them in at 1606, provided they can hop on by 1147.



Frankfurt is the airport serving the most destinations worldwide. Not much hope of finding where they start, eh? But if we assume it's straight from the US to Frankfurt, we have the following 21 cities as candidates, with all flights getting in before noon:

The good news? Looks like the LA flight gets in too late for the racers to be lounging around before Matty gets to Frankfurt!

Lufthansa: Atlanta (1810-0900), Boston (1635-0525), Chicago (1433-0545, 1545-0710, 1848-1015), Dallas (1620-0905), Denver (1715-1100), Detroit (1810-0755), Houston (1630-0905), Los Angeles (1435-1025), Miami (1605-0650), New York (1550-0525, 2145-1110), Newark (1810-0750), Orlando (2030-1125), Philadelphia (1635-0615, 1805-0805), Portland (1335-0905), San Francisco (1348-0945, 1430-1020), Seattle (1455-1005), Washington DC (1722-0710, 1750-0730, 1914-0915, 2155-1140)

*deep breath*

United: Chicago (1433-0545, 1545-0710, 1848-1015), San Francisco (1348-0945, 1430-1020), Washington DC (1722-0710, 1750-0730, 1914-0915, 2155-1140)
American: Chicago (1930-1105), Dallas (1445-0705)
Delta: Atlanta (1635-0740), Cincinnati (1925-0955), New York (1910-0930)
Northwest: Detroit (1710-0720)
Continental: Newark (1915-0915)
US Airways: Charlotte (2015-1050), Philadelphia (1635-0615)
Singapore: New York (2100-1050)


It looks to me  like the Teams would have arrived on either

1) UA 945 from ORD Chicago, arriving at 8:10 am
2) SQ 26 from JFK New York, arriving at 8:20 am

I'm looking at these early arrival times because Matty's flight from Portland was shown to have arrived quite early at 8:16 am (versus its 9:05 am scheduled arrival time)

Opps!   :groan:  I was looking at Frankfurt Departures   :groan:

I'll re-post the proper analysis in the 'flights' thread.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 04, 2008, 12:23:01 PM
The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min. Portland, Maine doesn't have a direct flight to Frankfurt - and it'd take a much shorter time too if it did!

Are there no other possible non stop flights with other airlines? The reason I ask is that it doesn't seem to fit with the evidence in the blog: The sister said "Matty left last night. We all went to the airport to see him off."
It would be a real stretch to describe a 1:35pm departure as 'night', especially as he would probably have had to say goodbye to them before heading thru customs, probably 1 hour before departure at least, so I would have expected her to use the words 'lunchtime', or similar. And from the photo of the family, the watch really does look like 1:50pm.

Also Matty mentions in his own blog that he was only "able to sleep for the first two hours of the flight". Even seasoned travellers would find it hard to dose off at midday in their own timezone at the beginning of their first flight.

The only reason it is impt either way is because it changes the window of time for when the racers would have been seen at Frankfurt. :duno:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers (?)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 04, 2008, 12:29:15 PM
Wait a second guys...

Are we totally confident in thinking that Frankfurt is the arrival from US city?

Since we aren't 100% sure of the departure date, don't we have to at least consider that it could be a second leg?  :duno:

I agree that it probably isn't, but just want to throw this out there.

We saw Phil on TES on 10/29...so we have that tiny window of 10/30 onwards...

If they went somewhere like London first, they could be still be seen in Frankfurt on 11/1...

Just a thought.

Oh and it is definitely Portland, Oregon.....no doubts.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers (?)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 04, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
all good ideas topaz, but way premature....

Cape Town is in no way confirmed yet...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 04, 2008, 01:14:24 PM
So now this has become the speculation thread, I'll make a spoiler thread when we get something solid that this is indeed our race :). Nothing is confirmed as of now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: apskip on November 04, 2008, 01:20:31 PM
Peach, I do not understand your comment "Oh and it is definitely Portland, Oregon.....no doubts." unless this comment is limited to the departure of the blogger's relative from Portland to Frankfurt. Is there something else about AR14 that has been connected to Portland OR?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: apskip on November 04, 2008, 01:31:58 PM
The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min. Portland, Maine doesn't have a direct flight to Frankfurt - and it'd take a much shorter time too if it did!

Are there no other possible non stop flights with other airlines? The reason I ask is that it doesn't seem to fit with the evidence in the blog: The sister said "Matty left last night. We all went to the airport to see him off."
It would be a real stretch to describe a 1:35pm departure as 'night', especially as he would probably have had to say goodbye to them before heading thru customs, probably 1 hour before departure at least, so I would have expected her to use the words 'lunchtime', or similar. And from the photo of the family, the watch really does look like 1:50pm.

Also Matty mentions in his own blog that he was only "able to sleep for the first two hours of the flight". Even seasoned travellers would find it hard to dose off at midday in their own timezone at the beginning of their first flight.

The only reason it is impt either way is because it changes the window of time for when the racers would have been seen at Frankfurt. :duno:

Mrs. Shrek, the last flight connection leaving Portland that can connect in to Frankfurt are a Northwest/KLM flight PDX AMS 1555 1100+1 connecting with Northwest/KLM AMS FRA 1335+1 1450+1 or a Lufthansa flight that is 5 mintues earlier. This means nothing can be leaving Portland after 355pm until the next morning. Soon after such a flight was in the air to fly east across the Atlantic, it would be after dark.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: georgiapeach on November 04, 2008, 01:39:44 PM
Peach, I do not understand your comment "Oh and it is definitely Portland, Oregon.....no doubts." unless this comment is limited to the departure of the blogger's relative from Portland to Frankfurt. Is there something else about AR14 that has been connected to Portland OR?

The original blogger is from Portland Oregon, not Portland Maine.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: patlini on November 04, 2008, 03:13:20 PM
Peach you get all the best tidbits
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 04, 2008, 04:27:25 PM
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The Portland > Frankfurt plane is simply the reverse of TAR 13's final flight, isn't it? That's LH469, departing at 1.35pm to 9.05am the next day, a flight duration of 10h 30min.

I think there is a Daylight Saving Time error here.  The record I had (but can't seem to find anymore) said LH469 was scheduled to leave PDX at 2:35 pm and arrive in FRA at 9:05 am. 

So I cross-checked using GMT conversions (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc):

October 31, 1:35 pm in Portland is October 31, 8:35 pm  in GMT.
November 1, 9:05 am in Frankfurt is November 1, 8:05 am in GMT.

That would imply that the flight was 11.5 hours long.  But we know that the flight is supposed to be 10.5 hours long.  So I think the plane's scheduled departure was really 2:35 pm.  This would be consistent with seeing Matty having a wirstwatch time that says 1:50 pm before beginning his trip.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: apskip on November 04, 2008, 05:08:09 PM
Chateau, I can say based on recent research because I thought the same problem might be happening. European Summer Time (same as daylight time) in Germnay changed from that to Standard time (6 hours delta to U.S. East Coast and 9 hours delta on West Coast) on Oct. 26. As far as AR14 goes, only on the date of Nov. 1 departure from the U.S. would there be a an extraordinary result. On Nov. 1 a plane takes off in Daylight time and lands in Germany with only a 8 hour time difference instead of the normal 9 hours that apply from Nov. 2 until European Summer Time returns the end of March 2009). The regular 10.5 hour flight would be arriving Nov. 2 only at 805am rather than the normal 905am all other days. Airlines typically do not adjust their departure ties for a 1 day event.
Title: Next stop: ROMANIA!!!
Post by: romaniafan on November 05, 2008, 02:05:56 AM
Yes, ROMANIA! Was at the arrivals area at the airport in Bucharest last night, at about 12:45am, waiting for a friend to come through baggage claim. Suddenly a man with a large videocamera appeared out of nowhere and stood waiting in front of the crowd at the automatic doors. I wondered if it would be someone important, but figured just a local soccer celebrity or something. A few seconds later an Asian couple with backpacks came running through the doors. They seemed to be looking for something and very rushed, and the cameraman followed them as they ran behind me and out the doors to the outside world. My very first thought was AMAZING RACE?!?! And then when I heard them talking to each other in English as they passed, with American accents, I thought it was an even greater chance it had been AR . . . but sadly, I'd never know the truth.

Or would I?!? Few minutes later two girls, looked to be in their 20s, came running out shouting at the crowd asking where the taxis were. Then suddenly they both stopped, looked around very confused-like like they were looking for someone, then stood off to the side a bit, literally about two feet from me. I noticed right away that they both had little yellow and red-striped markers on them, so I was getting even more convinced this was AR. Then while they were waiting, one of them took out an envelope and pulled out of it a blue pamphlet-sized type thing that had the AR symbol on the front, consulted it really quickly, then tucked it away. Now I'm 100% convinced it's AR!! All of a sudden there was a huge flurry of activity as their camerman came running up (apparently that's what the two girls had been waiting for), and then I saw at least two other teams and their camera crews come running through the doors - one was two slightly older African American ladies, and another was two rather short men. All four of them also had the yellow and red markers on their person (some were on fanny packs), and were being chased by cameras as they frantically ran for the taxis. I *think* there was another team arriving a little further down, but I couldn't get a good look in all the excitement. Then last but not least, a very frantic-looking cameraman and sound man ran out in the clearing outside the automatic doors, apparently having lost their team for the moment, and paused scanning the crowd for a good minute or two. Then they took off, so presumably spotted them. Phew.

It gets better. About a half hour later my friend finally came through the double-doors from baggage claim. I was giddy with excitment to tell her about my AR spotting, and her response? "So THAT'S who they were!!" Apparently they were on her flight from Munich! At least some of them were. She was sitting right next to one of the contestants, my friend said she was a Kelly Ripa lookalike. This contestant had another friend sitting up a few rows, who she kept referring to as Chrissy. My friend said they made small talk throughout the flight, and the lady had said she and her friend were making a travel documentary, going to places off the beaten path like Romania to try and generate interest for tourists to go to those countries. So THAT'S their cover! The lady also told the flight attendant that she and her friend Chrissy are Southwest Airlines flight attendants back home. She was also asking a Romanian passenger on the other side of her for advice, my friend didn't catch all of it but did hear them talking about the train station (how to get there, safety, etc). My friend said after the fact, knowing it was an AR team, a lot of the lady's mysterious behavior now made sense: Spending half an hour putting on makeup before they landed (after midnight?!?), asking the flight attendant for an extra sandwich (Chrissy had told her they might need it tomorrow!), etc. My friend said that by the time the plane was ready to deboard, the Kelly Ripa lookalike and her friend Chrissy (and their telltale backpacks) had already worked themselves up to the front of the plane to deboard. She said she also had noticed one other team of two girls with backpacks and camera crews, which I suspect *may* have been the pair I saw stalled outside baggage claim, but not sure.

Soooo, long and short of it: At least two teams were for sure spotted by my friend on the flight from Munich to Bucharest; I spotted at least four teams coming thru baggage claim at about that time, one of which might have overlapped with the ones my friend spotted. They were heading for taxis, so not sure if that means a task in Bucharest, or if they were taxing to the train station to venture elsewhere in the country. Making it at least five or six teams here in Romania today! How exciting!! I live not far from Dracula's Castle, which I'd suspect will be one of their stops, so I'll be keeping an eye out for any more sightings!

Sorry for the ramble, but I've been a huge AR fan since Season 1, Episode 1, and all this time I've been really pulling for them to come to Romania - what are the odds I'd see them arriving at the airport here, especially at 12:45am on a Wednesday?!? Can't wait for this season to air!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2008, 02:11:04 AM
:welcome2: to RFF romaniafan!!

Thank you so much for sharing!! Is it too much to hope you might have gotten some pics?

And could you possibly tell us the flight your friend was on? That would be a huge help!!

What fun!! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 02:23:08 AM
Thanks for sharing romaniafan and welcome to the forum  :waves: :hithere:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: romaniafan on November 05, 2008, 02:33:27 AM
Thanks for the welcome! The annoying thing is I always - ALWAYS! - carry my camera around with me here. Romania is such a quirky country you never know what you might see that needs to be photographed to be believed! But of course this was the one time I left it at home. It was the middle of the night so didn't think there'd be anything photoworthy. Grrrr. Yes, I'm kicking myself.

Friend was on Lufthansa flight 3424, arrived about 12:25am 11/5 from Munich. The flight arriving right before that was from Frankfort, arriving at 12:15am - both from Germany, so possibly some of the teams I saw had been on that flight? Not sure. Just because my friend only spotted two teams on the Munich flight doesn't mean they weren't all on that flight and she just didn't see them. She's still in bed and jet-lagged right now (she'd flown all the way from LA), but I'll grill her for more info later and see if there's any other tidbits I can report. This is all so exciting, I'm glad I've got people to share it with who can appreciate it!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 02:36:18 AM
You can ramble on all you want romaniafan, its something I do all the time but what you have to say is so much more interesting  :jumpy:! How exciting it must be for you!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2008, 02:41:13 AM
Oh thank you that's great!! And you are definitely in the right place, we adore the race here!

Any more info on teams, even what they were wearing, while you and your friend's memories are clear is a huge help, as it may help us put things together as we get more info.

See if she knows the other girl's name? And anything she can add to what they were asking about will be a big help too!

And please do keep an eye out! If they arrived at 1225, they will prob have hit hours of operations somewhere--so prob did tasks that AM and then had a Pitstop.

SO if you can ask around, maybe someone saw something?  :hearts: 

What time is it there for you right now??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2008, 02:44:28 AM
Oh wait--is that still THIS day? As in arr 1225 11/5  so might still be wandering around??  :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2008, 03:05:30 AM
Romaniafan--when you say last night--did your friend arrive at 1245 on 11/5 or on 11/4??

Were you hanging out waiting for her for a long time? You say finally she arrived... :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: romaniafan on November 05, 2008, 03:23:34 AM
Yeah, it was 12:25am on Wed Nov 5th that they landed. So I'd bet money on them still flitting around the country as we speak, especially taking into account that like you said, they probably needed to wait for things to open first. It's 11:20am here at the moment, and we're 8 hours ahead of Chicago time (that's my hometown and point of reference!). And yes, I said finally because a. I'd left for the airport three hours before, b. Knew we'd have a 2+ hour drive home, and c. I wanted to talk to somebody about my AR sightings!!! In a perfect world my friend would've come through the doors at the same time as them and we could've tailed them! I guess it pays to travel with backpacks and not have to wait 20 minutes for your luggage to come through.

Speculation: If they go to Dracula's Castle (which incidentally isn't that exciting at all and is barely tied to Dracula, but is Romania's Biggest Tourist Trap so something tells me they'll end up there, but I hope I'm wrong - there are so many more interesting things to choose from here!), it's a good three hours drive/train from Bucharest in daytime traffic, a bit shorter at night. So if they had an early morning task in Bucharest, had to wait for opening hours for something first and then complete the task, then get out here, it'd probably be lunchtime at the earliest. Maybe they'd make a stop along the way to do something physically-challengey in the mountains? May need to kick the friend out of bed soon so we can get over there and stalk! With cameras this time, of course :)

As for them supposedly being in Capetown right now - my apologies if I'm wrong about all of this! But between the red and yellow markings, and what most definitely appeared to be an AR clue they were looking at, and all the pairs of backpacked running people tailed by cameras . . . if I'm wrong, someone out there is doing a mighty good job of filming an Amazing Race knockoff!

Shall give more details later if I get them, I'm spreading the word to everyone to keep an eye out!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: georgiapeach on November 05, 2008, 03:30:54 AM
Thanks romaiafan! I would think they might avoid the obvious too--wish you were in Bucharest to nose around! But something will turn up and you have done a great job with telling us all the details of your encounter- :thankyou:

And Cape Town doesn't look so good to me now, :lol:

 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 03:34:20 AM
I believe your sighting romaniafan  :jumpy:, thanks for the additional info.
Darn its 4:30 am here and I want to play but am sleepy so for now  :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: romaniafan on November 05, 2008, 03:40:14 AM
Haha, trust me, one doesn't want to spend any more time in Bucharest than absolutely necessary! Here's hoping they spend most of their time elsewhere in this beautiful country! Oh, remembered one last tidbit: One of the girls my friend saw was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of her daughter on it. I'll check back in tonight with any other newsworthy news!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Neobie on November 05, 2008, 07:00:34 AM
Would that make Romania Leg 3? Given the late afternoon arrivals at Locarno, it would most likely encompass a 'draw a time and wait for the next morning' bit, making the Pit Stop sometime on the 2nd of November.

Add a 12-hour Pit Stop and you get a morning of the 3rd departure. A one-day Leg Two, followed by another 12-hour Pit Stop, gives you arrival in Munich on the night of the 4th.

Alternatively, add a 36-hour Pit Stop, and you get a morning of the 4th departure. We'd test this scenario (36h Pit Stop, then Locarno > Zurich > Munich > Bucharest).

If teams depart before 8am from Locarno, they'd be able to take:
Train from Locarno to Zurich Airport: 8.53am to 12.13pm
LH3743 from Zurich to Munich: 1.10pm to 2.10pm
RO312 from Munich to Bucharest: 4.45pm to 7.45pm

They instead take the next Munich-Bucharest flight at 9.30pm, indicating that they'd check in after 8pm in Leg One. After half a leg on 1 Nov, would we have activities in Locarno on 2 Nov dragging into the night? I'd say doubtful.

ETA: Assuming Locarno is Leg One. But if it isn't, please just add X to the leg number!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: apskip on November 05, 2008, 09:01:53 AM
Would that make Romania Leg 3? Given the late afternoon arrivals at Locarno, it would most likely encompass a 'draw a time and wait for the next morning' bit, making the Pit Stop sometime on the 2nd of November.

Add a 12-hour Pit Stop and you get a morning of the 3rd departure. A one-day Leg Two, followed by another 12-hour Pit Stop, gives you arrival in Munich on the night of the 4th.

Alternatively, add a 36-hour Pit Stop, and you get a morning of the 4th departure. We'd test this scenario (36h Pit Stop, then Locarno > Zurich > Munich > Bucharest).

If teams depart before 8am from Locarno, they'd be able to take:
Train from Locarno to Zurich Airport: 8.53am to 12.13pm

LH3743 from Zurich to Munich: 1.10pm to 2.10pm
RO312 from Munich to Bucharest: 4.45pm to 7.45pm

They instead take the next Munich-Bucharest flight at 9.30pm, indicating that they'd check in after 8pm in Leg One. After half a leg on 1 Nov, would we have activities in Locarno on 2 Nov dragging into the night? I'd say doubtful.

ETA: Assuming Locarno is Leg One. But if it isn't, please just add X to the leg number!

Neobie, it may be more useful to work backward from the known arrival time. There is only one flight from Munich that fits:

LH3424  MUC OTP  2130 0025+1

If you connect to that from Frankfurt(which you wouldn't; see below), best choice is LH980  FRA MUC  1835 1930.
from Milan(possible if leg 2 is in the Milan area) it would be LH3907  MXP MUC  1920 2030.
From Zurich there is a nonstop flight to Bucharest in the early afternoon, but no connecting flights getting in just after midnight.

However, Munich is not the only city from which you can arrive in Bucharest in the 30 minutes after midnight. 3 others that I know of are Prague OK704 2120 0010+1, Frankfurt itself LH3416 2030 0005+1, and Amsterdam KL1361 2020 0010+1.

By connecting just early enough in any of these 4 gateways to Bucharest, a wealth of other cities could connect into one of the late-night flights to Bucharest.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: apskip on November 05, 2008, 09:39:39 AM
After giving the question of where leg 2 might be serious thought, I think the best urban area possibilities are:
Milan
Venice
Vienna
Budapest

An evening flight originating in Milan is covered in my post above.
From Venice LH4101 connects to Munich 1725 1845.
From Vienna LH6337 connects to  Frankfurt 1940 2120.
Budapest is the city with the most nonstops to Bucharest. However, there are none in the late evening.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: michael on November 05, 2008, 11:04:46 AM
yay!
thanks for the spoilers romaniafan!

I'll admit, the Romania spoiler makes me think Cape Town might be something else, because why would they have two european legs, fly to south africa, and then fly back to europe?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: michael on November 05, 2008, 11:44:15 AM
Romanifan, lol maybe you should go camp out at the departure area of the airport until the teams leave romania ! I'm kidding... :angel: .. but that would be awesome lol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: apskip on November 05, 2008, 12:30:46 PM
I was in Bucharest and all over Transylvania in early August. I learned a few things that might be applicable to an AR14 leg there. The one place I think most likely to be invovled in a task is the Parliament Palace. This is the second largest building in the world(after the Pentagon), according to the tour guide with over 500,000 square meters (5.0 million square feet, but I have also seen in print the number 330,000 square meters). There are 1100 rooms, so a find "x" task could be quite ineresting and difficult. There are regular tours, but I bet it could have been arranged to use only the parts of building (most of it) not used for showing tourists.

Another really interesting place is Peles Castle in Sinaia about 2 hours north on a low-traffic day. It's a beautiful building and I hope AR14 planners at World Race Productions found a way to fit it in.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: romaniafan on November 05, 2008, 02:37:38 PM
Grrr, kept eyes peeled all day and no more AR sightings in my little corner of Transylvania. Sorry guys. I was really enjoying feeling useful and having info to share! Camping out at the departures area was considered, Michael (seriously!), but unfortunately probably won't happen. And apskp - we had made the same prediction ourselves this afternoon about the People's Palace being a filming location in Buc. I've always felt that even finding an address among the jungle of concrete blocs would be an AR-worthy task, too! As for Peles, would be cool but it's closed all of November for cleaning and maintenance. I suppose anything's possible, though!

One last little tidbit: My friend said the racer sitting next to her on the plane had mentioned that others "from our group" had been on an earlier flight that day. Maybe these were just the stragglers? And as I may have already mentioned, she was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of her daughter that said "I love you wherever I go". Think that's it for now!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 02:43:51 PM
Grrr, kept eyes peeled all day and no more AR sightings in my little corner of Transylvania. Sorry guys. I was really enjoying feeling useful and having info to share! Camping out at the departures area was considered, Michael (seriously!), but unfortunately probably won't happen. And apskp - we had made the same prediction ourselves this afternoon about the People's Palace being a filming location in Buc. I've always felt that even finding an address among the jungle of concrete blocs would be an AR-worthy task, too! As for Peles, would be cool but it's closed all of November for cleaning and maintenance. I suppose anything's possible, though!

One last little tidbit: My friend said the racer sitting next to her on the plane had mentioned that others "from our group" had been on an earlier flight that day. Maybe these were just the stragglers? And as I may have already mentioned, she was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of her daughter that said "I love you wherever I go". Think that's it for now!
Doesn't mean you have to leave us romaniafan, we'd love to have you stick around and see how all this unfolds  :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: michael on November 05, 2008, 02:45:29 PM
Grrr, kept eyes peeled all day and no more AR sightings in my little corner of Transylvania. Sorry guys. I was really enjoying feeling useful and having info to share! Camping out at the departures area was considered, Michael (seriously!), but unfortunately probably won't happen. And apskp - we had made the same prediction ourselves this afternoon about the People's Palace being a filming location in Buc. I've always felt that even finding an address among the jungle of concrete blocs would be an AR-worthy task, too! As for Peles, would be cool but it's closed all of November for cleaning and maintenance. I suppose anything's possible, though!

One last little tidbit: My friend said the racer sitting next to her on the plane had mentioned that others "from our group" had been on an earlier flight that day. Maybe these were just the stragglers? And as I may have already mentioned, she was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of her daughter that said "I love you wherever I go". Think that's it for now!

like puddin said, stick around!! :D

and if you do end up camping out don't forget your camera!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: cba on November 05, 2008, 03:38:07 PM

venzin77 RE: Is the Amazing Race in Locarno, Ticino?
Today, 3:52 PM EST

Yes the amazing race is in Switzerland y help one couple, y make police man job.

Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my ..... :)


Wiki/Wetpaint (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/2031565/Is+the+Amazing+Race+in+Locarno,+Ticino%3F?t=anon)   


People, when I joined last week pointing out it's been a while since they've been to Switzerland I was just joking!  :lol:

This post above caught my eye - I've been to Verzasca valley myself on an excursion during my time as geology student at the Swiss federal institute of technology in Zurich.

There's Lago di Vogrono, a reservoir lake and the dam bordering its end, Dam Verzasca was featured in a James Bond Movie ("Goldeneye"). 007 does a bungy-jump from that dam, which is a very popular thing to do among tourists! There's not really anything else thrilling going on in that valley (except for geology of course  ;) ) so I'll pick up that spoiler/speculation and, if correct, guess we'll see some bungee jumping as a task or a maybe even a roadblock?

I'd love to extend this and post pictures of the dam and the valley (and the site of the jump itself), but I don't have them with me so you'll have to wait until I'm heading to Innsbruck again.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 05, 2008, 05:10:15 PM
Thanks for the info cba!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: apskip on November 05, 2008, 06:17:49 PM
On the question of whether AR14 would have taken teams from the Swiss/Italian border to Capetown and then back to Romania, my answer is "NO WAY". World Race Productions has shown an intelligent positioning of succeeding leg places throughout all the Amazing Race seasons. Even though some involve more than 5000 miles, they have never turned around and gone right next door to where they started.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 06, 2008, 12:30:21 AM
And look !  Locarno has a funicular (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/FLMS.jpg/180px-FLMS.jpg&imgrefurl=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standseilbahn&h=169&w=180&sz=12&hl=en&start=18&sig2=hBtl5lC2JB1Ee_4GlGeFAA&um=1&usg=__wK6piLpOE8VbB0Zg60EwV64tPvQ=&tbnid=XnaWlJote6EobM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=101&ei=2Y0SSau0KYyGsAPo9JX0Bg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlocarno%2Bflms%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)  :jumpy:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/20080719S738MadonnadelSasso.jpg/800px-20080719S738MadonnadelSasso.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: batchick on November 06, 2008, 01:22:47 AM
I'm confused batchick...

Were those banners in the picture we saw at the entrance to Rhodes Memorial or at one of the University entrances?

They were at the entrance to Rhodes Memorial, which is just next to the exit of the University. Both are built on land bequeathed by Cecil John Rhodes. A lot of us don't like that link to the nasty legacy of people like Rhodes, but we're grateful that we have such a beautiful spot.

Oh, and i've mailed the film commission, so hopefully we'll have an answer sometime about who those flags belong to.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 06, 2008, 01:27:01 AM
Cape Town may be a later destination.  Those flags sure look like the real thing.

In Locarno:

Quote
From: SwissMiss08

I first approached the plaza piazza sant'antonio around 6pm (it gets dark here around 5:30pm now).  It is a little plaza in the old city (citta vecchia) which has some parking spots.  I tried to park my car and was waved away.  And there was a priest standing in front of the church, outside.  They did not appear to have been standing there for long.  It looked like they were just getting set up.

Chiesa Sant`Antonio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/498194)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/498194.jpg)

Here in GE:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=110905;image
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Slowhatch on November 06, 2008, 01:39:41 AM
If they're doing the 007 thing in Verzasca, there seems to be only one authorized provider (http://www.trekking.ch/eng/bungy/vip.asp).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 06, 2008, 01:41:46 AM
More Locarno:

Quote
Around 7, I was again heading up towards the plaza AGAIN when we were passed by a team heading down the street, towards the vicinity of the Piazza Grande or the castle, we thought.  This team was two younger people (early to mid 20s).  I think the woman I saw was blond, but not sure.  She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more.  The "producer" (ie 4th person in group, not carrying a backpack or camera) stopped her to adjust her shirt or necklace as they walked down the street.

Piazza Grande (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/10657196)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/10657196.jpg)

Here in GE
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=110906;image
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 06, 2008, 01:50:21 AM
And More Locarno:

Quote
Around 7, I was again heading up towards the plaza AGAIN when we were passed by a team heading down the street, towards the vicinity of the Piazza Grande or the castle, we thought.  This team was two younger people (early to mid 20s).  I think the woman I saw was blond, but not sure.  She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more.  The "producer" (ie 4th person in group, not carrying a backpack or camera) stopped her to adjust her shirt or necklace as they walked down the street.

Castello Visconteo (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/204484)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/204484.jpg)

Here in GE
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Slowhatch on November 06, 2008, 10:52:17 AM
Because of the TAR14 stuff, I was curious about Destination Unknown and kept track of the videos. Phil was phoning it in of course, but I looked to see if it was all prepared on the same day. So far, it seems that way: the clothes, the lighting (slightly above and to his left) and the backdrop are the same.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Slowhatch on November 06, 2008, 02:04:45 PM
Our work just got more complicated.  :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 02:21:20 PM
Amazing Race (http://seriouslyromania.com/2008/11/06/amazing-race/)
November 6, 2008 in général

At 4am on Wednesday morning, staying up all night in honor of the US Presidential Election, I found myself at Gara de Nord, Bucharest’s primary train station. Standing outside the locked building was a mix of travelers waiting with luggage, teenagers huffing from plastic bags, sanitation workers sweeping, and various hustlers trying to get money from the people who waited. I, myself, had to dodge a couple of leather-jacketed men who insisted they could put me on a bus to wherever I needed to go, Brasov by noon. Later I watched two nearby couples interact with a younger huffer, laughing uncomfortably as he half sang, half shouted something to them. Meanwhile, taxis kept pulling up periodically, and people with bags would try the locked glass doors without luck. Their attempts were understandable, though, because inside the glass doors were other travelers, miraculously inside the warm(er) building even though it was supposed to be closed until 4:30.

These other travelers were, in fact, the cast and crew of the 14th season of The Amazing Race, filming their way through Romania. I looked inside and watched the teams of two flanked by cameramen and production staff. They all seemed unaware of the motley crowd outside those doors. They talked to each other, milled around, and consulted maps. One particular team of young women looked too manicured for such a contest at such an hour. At 4:20am, the ticket counters opened early for them; the crowd outside moved closer to the locked doors. Ten minutes later, the station’s McDonald’s franchise let the cast and crew inside while keeping the public, now allowed in the building, locked outside. Soon these contestants would be headed out of the capital in search of adventure!

And for those of you who are fans of the show, the Romania episode will be full of classics: gymnasts, gypsies, and vampires. Through some connections of mine here, I found out that the cast travels to nearby Bran Castle, engages in a challenge that included coffins and stakes, and visits a gypsy village (possibly in search of a clue). Of course, some of it plays off of the cultural myths about Romania. There is no question that some Romanians are interested in selling vampire kitsch to spook-seeking tourists, regardless of the relative lack of native tradition actually concerning the monsters. Much of the rest of the population at least tolerates it. And The Amazing Race clearly aims to take advantage.

But the show exploits more than the vampire legend. The most intriguing element of The Amazing Race episode in Romania relates to the gypsy village, which was, strangely, a fake. Constructed specially for the show in an area with a relatively low gypsy population, the artificial village was “populated” with ethnic Romanians dressed up in gypsy attire. Yes, even the supposed gypsies were impostors, as authentic as their costumes may have appeared. All this was done for the benefit of a reality television show. And tourism, of course.

Because most countries try to export a symbolic and friendly image of native culture that will lure tourists into spending strong currencies in a bid to purchase access to it all. Australia has promoted koalas, kangaroos, happy indigenous people, and blonds with surfboards leading a laid back life along the beach. Scotland pushes kilts, bagpipes, and Mel-Gibson-as-William-Wallace (not to mention all things whiskey). Romania is certainly not exempt from these kinds of campaigns, and the gypsy village proves just to what lengths people are willing to go. By dressing up ethnic Romanians as gypsy villagers, The Amazing Race and its Romanian collaborators are presenting an idealized image of gypsy culture, one meant to dazzle foreigners with exoticism.

The reality is more fraught. Tensions toward and within the gypsy population in Romania remain strong; prejudices are performed daily in the most progressive communities; divides exist socially and within the government about how to work with this minority group. Debates flourish about how to even provide education for children in gypsy communities. The quaint, friendly, built-to-order gypsy village, with its cast of Romanians in gypsy costumes, couldn’t be more of an idealization of the situation here. It censors the poverty, the alienation, and even the violence that contribute to the gypsy reality in Romania, as well as elsewhere in Eastern Europe.

Myself, I am unqualified to say anything truly meaningful regarding this subject. Except I can’t help but be intrigued by a reality show that not only employs cultural proxies and fakes, but helps to sell a glossy version of what makes up a country like Romania. For my money, I think showing the real Romania would make excellent television; but no, the producers want to keep the glue huffers locked outside and the gypsies lighter skinned. Maybe the danger is that if we, as viewers, saw the reality, we might lose interest in the contestants and the contest itself. After all, what’s amazing about it? People flying all over the world in competition for money? What’s amazing about that? Besides what it excludes.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 02:34:19 PM
Gman has been wanting them to go to Bran's Castle like forever!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 06, 2008, 05:07:02 PM
What he says is perfectly consistent with what the other witness said of teams snagging taxis at the airport just a few hours prior.   :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: SingularStars on November 06, 2008, 11:18:17 PM
Amazing Race (http://seriouslyromania.com/2008/11/06/amazing-race/)
November 6, 2008 in général

But the show exploits more than the vampire legend. The most intriguing element of The Amazing Race episode in Romania relates to the gypsy village, which was, strangely, a fake. Constructed specially for the show in an area with a relatively low gypsy population, the artificial village was “populated” with ethnic Romanians dressed up in gypsy attire. Yes, even the supposed gypsies were impostors, as authentic as their costumes may have appeared. All this was done for the benefit of a reality television show. And tourism, of course.


I really hope that this is not true, cuz I'll be really disappointed.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 06, 2008, 11:46:28 PM
Off the top of my head, take Amazing Race 9 when they went to Oman, our local eyewitness told us that the locals do not dress the way we saw on the show as in not authentic.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: michael on November 06, 2008, 11:51:59 PM
Quote
I really hope that this is not true, cuz I'll be really disappointed.

I sort of get why you'd be disappointed, but it doesn't mean TAR is all rigged or anything, they probably just do it to show the countries culture more, you know what I mean? Just like they are having a RB of an Indian festival on this Sunday's episode of TAR13, and it was filmed in May, but in reality that festival takes place in March.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: apskip on November 07, 2008, 07:39:40 AM
Yes, Michael, but using a fake gypsy village is much more tragic than your example. The gypsies in Romania are predominantly in the Transylvania plains, a minimum 3 hours north of Bucharest. I can understand why World Race Productions may not have wanted to spend the time and have the risk of uncontrollable behavior that could happen in their natural environment. However, to hire essntially actors to impersonate gypsies would be unfortuante. There are doubtless plenty of unemployed actors who are grateful, but it is not the right thing to do. Try some other task; there are plenty that are authentic.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 07, 2008, 12:25:29 PM
Lee Sanders (http://twitter.com/SandersMusic) made a few comments on Race cues~

Just wrote something unusual… a really PRETTY Race cue. And now—time to do battle with the NYT XWD. I've earned it. :-) 9:58 PM Nov 2nd   

Tough day for gear—NOW 2 of the keys on my KBD are sticking. These new Race cues are KICKING MY STUDIO's ASS!
about 17 hours ago
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 07, 2008, 11:45:41 PM
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I also have to say that one of the most exciting points of the day was when we saw signs for the show "The Amazing Race."  It was being filmed at the palace where the famous Sound of Music gazebo now is.  I took a picture of one of the signs that I saw, but there also were about 15 matching white Mercedes out front that were supposed to belong to the people in the amazing race. After I took a picture, an angry man came and put a garbage bag over the sign. 

Salzburg Austria Posted 11/06/08 Image date 11/03/08

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: michael on November 07, 2008, 11:46:51 PM
 :wohoo: :wohoo:

OMG
good job Mrs Shrek!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: michael on November 07, 2008, 11:51:20 PM
MORE FROM SALZBURG  :wohoo:

Salzburg blog with photos:

poster November 3rd

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The driver pulled down the window and asked a young Austrian man for directions. I recognized right away that the driver spoke American English, so being the helpful American I am, I pulled around the front of the car to see if I could help. The Austrian man was fishing for his English vocabulary. Both the front and rear driver's side windows were down. A young man was driving, what I guess was his wife or girlfriend was behind him.

"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on.

I explained that they needed to turn back onto the major road they had just left, Alpenstraße, and head straight down until they passed underneath and underpass. Then they should take the very next right which would lead them down a wooded country lane.

By the time I had finished my first sentence, out of the car from the front and back passenger seats raced the camera man and the boom (sound) man, and they were both on me. I was good. Amazingly enough, I didn't look into the camera! I put a foot on my peddle to push off and ride away when the boom man caught my eye. He shook his head quickly as if to say, "Don't race off!"

The camera man turned off his camera and the boom man, an American, explained to the Austrian and me that we had to sign a release or this footage couldn't be used.

While we signed the paperwork, the woman in the backseat swore. They were in an amazing rush! The boom man turned to her and said, "Look, I told you. If you ask people questions, we have to do this. If you don't like it, don't ask for help."

"What kind of show is this?" I asked.
"A travel show," he replied.
"What channel?" I asked.
"I'm not sure," he said. Amazing, if that were true!
"What's the show called?" I asked.
Then he (sort of) came clean. He said, "I can only tell you that it's a pretty popular one!"


Off into the car they went. I wave and they raced off.

So this was some sort of race! Amazing, I thought, that I was caught in the middle of it.

I swore myself to secrecy--this was big stuff--I couldn't tell people about this! In two minutes I was home and spilling my guts to Jenny. Then one of my students came over 15 minutes later to pick up some soup, and I was telling her before she even sat down.

After my student left, Jenny suggested we head to Hellbrunn (only 5 minutes from our apartment) to see what we could see. There's a huge playground there and we promised Nikolas he could play there a bit (he said 40 minutes, and we said about 10--hey, it was getting dark!).

When we got to Hellbrunn, I noticed not one, but three cars that looked like the one I'd seen earlier. They each had numbers in the back window. The highest number I saw was 11.

When we tried to enter the castle grounds, we were immediately forced to make a U-Turn by a staff member. "Das Schloss ist zu wegen Dreharbeit." Closed due to filming...hmmm.

Just then, another white car pulled into the parking lot. A different set of people but with camera and boom men. They held each other's hands and headed right past us through a different door than the main entrance. I wanted to tell them that the path they were taking was a Detour, but I figured it wasn't my place.

In fact, a staff member came up to us a short time later and asked us in German if we'd said anything to the couple. "Nein," we answered. Dang, can't we be friendly?

Jenny decided to take Nikolas down that path to see where the couple was headed. I waited in case more white cars appeared in the parking lot. None did, and soon Jenny was back to tell me that she's seen "things." Well, I wanted to see things, too, so off I went along the path. The pathway was heavily wooded so it was even darker. Up ahead I could see huge lights, the kind you see on film sets. But there was a Roadblock between lights and me: a gate and a staff member. I spoke to the staff member for a moment. I asked him if they were filming an advertisement (playing dumb I was) and he spilled his guts. And while he spilled, I looked through the gate and saw "things."
Fast Forward to me catching up with Jenny and Nikolas in the park. We saw bobbing through the trees what looked like a TV camera light. Two women were running together. One was hobbling. The other said, "I'm going ahead a bit," and the other countered with, "OK, go ahead." Off into the park they went, clueless as the day was long.

Satisfied with the afternoon's excitement, we headed home and made a Pit Stop at Rossbräu, a local restaurant. No one recognized me from TV and I didn't tell anyone who I was.


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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 07, 2008, 11:57:54 PM
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I also have to say that one of the most exciting points of the day was when we saw signs for the show "The Amazing Race."  It was being filmed at the palace where the famous Sound of Music gazebo now is.  I took a picture of one of the signs that I saw, but there also were about 15 matching white Mercedes out front that were supposed to belong to the people in the amazing race. After I took a picture, an angry man came and put a garbage bag over the sign. 

Salzburg Austria Posted 11/06/08 Image date 11/03/08
Another GREAT find Mrs Shrek!  :jumpy: and Michael!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 08, 2008, 12:19:18 AM
Now we know why they flew from Munich to Bucharest on the evening of the 4th!

Nice work Michael  &  Mrs Shrek   :wohoo:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2008, 12:37:41 AM
 :lol: :jumpy:
"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 08, 2008, 12:53:21 AM
Why is that blog written with every possible TAR term?

U-turn
Roadblock
Detour
Pit Stop
Fast Forward

any more?

 I guess it's just a stylistic tongue-in-cheek way of writing
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: michael on November 08, 2008, 12:54:17 AM
Why is that blog written with every possible TAR term?

U-turn
Roadblock
Detour
Pit Stop
Fast Forward

any more?

 I guess it's just a stylistic tongue-in-cheek way of writing

LOL, I noticed that too.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Slowhatch on November 08, 2008, 12:56:27 AM
The only hits I got were for pumpkin seed oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkin_seed_oil), a famous product of Austria. Most towns have a Kurbisfest, but they're tame things--no pumpkin rot.

Great find, Michael/Mrs. Shrek!  :wohoo:  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: Chateau d If on November 08, 2008, 01:13:15 AM
This shot was taken here between 4:45 and 5:15 pm (assumes November 3rd).

(well, I'm talking about just the lower one)

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http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=110927;image
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2008, 01:25:33 AM
And so it begins  :jumpy:  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 08, 2008, 02:23:36 AM
We could extrapolate an approximate order of contestants from the blog.
3 cars are already at the castle when blogger arrives
assume that young pumpkin couple from earlier are one of these cars already here
car 4 is blonde lady and blue shirt
car 5 or 6 is females with sore leg
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 08, 2008, 10:39:13 AM
Very little chance that this is our race but I might as well post it:

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first of alllllll, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JOLINE LIM JIAJING! haha i shall give you your angsana card likeeeeee, the next time i see you, which is likeeeee, um, heheh.

today's training was quite relaxed coz everyone was damn high? coz beatrice kept saying the word 'high'. like aim high, look high, throw high, jump high. then we became really really high. and nicole and i were the only ones who did a proper cooldown coz the rest were too high to function as per normal. and after trng i cheonged home to change and eat then went to Bishan to meet the throwers for Eugenia's surprise barbecue thing and they were half an hour late. and while waiting for them, i was approached by two groups of people doing some amazing race thing and an aunty who was selling pens.

Bishan is in Singapore right; I'm pretty sure they have their own race type thing.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on November 08, 2008, 11:35:00 AM
 :groan:  shameless product promotion..... looks like they got the cars for free!   :lol:

Daimler BlueTEC (http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/07/daimlerchrysler.html)

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=110928;image
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on November 08, 2008, 11:41:15 AM
 :funny:  Looks like a "musical theme" for the Salzburg leg of the next TAR season.  From the "Sound of Music" to who knows what in the birthplace city of Mozart (http://www.ennstalerhof.com/en/mozarts-geburtshaus.shtml).  Maybe Julie Andrews will be the pitstop greeter.   (:;) :knuckles: :groan: :res: :meow:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2008, 01:18:46 PM
:funny:  Looks like a "musical theme" for the Salzburg leg of the next TAR season.  From the "Sound of Music" to who knows what in the birthplace city of Mozart (http://www.ennstalerhof.com/en/mozarts-geburtshaus.shtml).  Maybe Julie Andrews will be the pitstop greeter.   (:;) :knuckles: :groan: :res: :meow:

I am holding out for the SALT MINES  (http://www2.salzburg.info/sehenswertes_salzburg_salt_mines.htm) myself--I remember having a blast doing those!

The funicular ride to the top of the fort could be good too...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: sunnyca on November 08, 2008, 02:12:31 PM
wow, this is so cool! i was in salzburg 3 years ago - was in those gardens in the photo above (the Mirabell gardens) and Hellbrunn myself! The Mirabell gardens have these cool dwarves scattered all round - might there be a task having to identify a particular one of these? Maybe they have a Travelocity "dwarf" instead of a "gnome"!
    
Mirabellgarten (Mirabell Garden)
Mirabell Gardens - The Mirabell Gardens were laid out in the 18th century. Maria and the children were seen dancing around the statue of Pegasus, the winged horse, and throughout the gardens singing 'Do-Re-Mi'.
Mirabell Gardens, Dwarf Gardens
Schloß Mirabell   

Prince Archbishop Johann Ernst Graf von Thun (1687 - 1709) had the famous Mirabell Gardens remodelled in 1690 according to plans by Johann Bernhard Fischer von Erlach. They were redesigned around 1730 by Franz Anton Danreiter. 

The Pegasus, designed by Kaspar Gras from Innsbruck (1661), was placed here in 1913 after having stood on Chapter Square, Mirabell Square, Makart Square and even in a museum (under a staircase). The 4 groups of figures around the fountain were sculpted by Ottavio Mosto (1690) and symbolize the 4 elements: Fire (Aeneas' flight from Troy), Air (Hercules' battle with Antaeus), Earth (Pluto, lord of the Underworld abducting Zeus' daughter Persephone) and Water (Paris carrying off Helen, precipitating the Trojan War).

The mythical figures on the balustrade are the work of Bartholomäus van Opstal and Johann Fröhlich. The copies of the famous "Borghese Fencer" are attributed to Andreas Götzinger (the inner pair) and Michael Bernhard Mandl (the outer, artistically more valuable pair). The pedestals bear the coat of arms of Salzburg's Archbishop Johann Ernst Graf Thun (1687 - 1709). The elaborately decorated vases on the balustrade were built after plans by Fischer von Erlach.

The Heckentheater (Hedge Theater) is located on the west side of the Gardens. Built between 1704 and 1718, it is one of the oldest hedge theaters north of the Alps.

The Zwerglgarten (Dwarf Garden) dates back to Archbishop Franz Anton Graf Harrach, who had a dwarf theater with 28 dwarves set up southwest of the palace. Unfortunately, nothing is known of the creator of these "mysterious figures". These pitiful, misshapen beings, attached to almost all of the Baroque European courts for entertainment purposes, were highly respected and well-treated because of their integrity and loyalty. The dwarves in the Mirabell Gardens, made of Untersberg marble, are representative of these grotesque characters.   

In concern for his wife and their unborn child, Crown Prince Ludwig of Bavaria had the disfigured creatures with their goitres and hunchbacks removed from the Dwarf Garden (they were to be destroyed). Fortunately, they were only auctioned off and the dwarves were forgotten for over one hundred years. Not until 1921 did the Salzburg Society for the Preservation of Local Amenities recall this part of Salzburg's cultural heritage to mind and convince the city councillors to place the nine dwarves then in the city's possession in their historical positions. Today the carefully restored dwarves are set up in the Bastion Garden and the hope remains that all of the dwarves still preserved will be retrieved and reunited in their historically innate location.

In 1854 Emperor Franz Joseph opened the Mirabell Gardens to the public. It has remained a jewel of horticultural architecture to this day.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: sunnyca on November 08, 2008, 02:22:26 PM
..and the blood and gore on the racers makes me wonder if they did something at the macabre but beautiful st. peter's cemetery and catacombs.. (i was told the scenes from the movie were not filmed there but on a hollywood set though!)

St. Peter's Cemetery
St. Peter's Cemetery with its unique backdrop is one of the oldest and most charming cemeteries in the world. It serves as the final resting place for many notable personalities, artists, scholars and merchants.
Catacombs
The so-called "catacombs" hewn out of the Mönchsberg rock are one of the special attractions at St. Peter's Cemetery (open all year) and probably of early Christian origin. St. Gertrude's Chapel and the Maximus Chapel are especially worth seeing.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: sunnyca on November 08, 2008, 02:38:41 PM
So let's see if I've got the timing right (adding to above):
Oct 31 - Leave US (maybe SFO) - via Frankfurt/Zurich or Milan - to Locarno, Switzerland
Nov 1- 2: tasks around Locarno, drive to Salzburg
Nov 3: Tasks around Salzburg (Mirabell Gardens/St. Peter's Cemetery/Schloss Hellbrunn), drive to Munich
Nov 4: Fly from Munich to Bucharest (racers seen on direct flight, but others maybe via VIE or FRA)
Nov 5: Tasks around Brasov, Romania.
This is so weird, it's almost real time!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 08, 2008, 02:45:12 PM
Very little chance that this is our race but I might as well post it:


Bishan is in Singapore right; I'm pretty sure they have their own race type thing.

yeah there are a whole heap of copy cat races that are run thru groups and schools all over Asia, so this is most likely one of them.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 08, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
And most likely Vietnam belongs to TAR Israel as the dates are wrong for us....  darn it all! :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: sunnyca on November 08, 2008, 03:02:08 PM
I am holding out for the SALT MINES  (http://www2.salzburg.info/sehenswertes_salzburg_salt_mines.htm) myself--I remember having a blast doing those!

The funicular ride to the top of the fort could be good too...

The salt mines would be awesome - Hallstatt is one of the most gorgeous places I have seen! And the skull church is bizarre too. But I wonder if they would have time to drive there, do the tasks, and drive to Munich to catch that flight on the 4th? It's possible but real tight.  The cable car up to Untersberg near Hellbrunn does seem more likely..

Here's a link to the salt mines and the skull church at Hallstatt: http://www.globosapiens.net/travel-information/Hallstatt-1096.html
Quote" Today, one can visit the salt mine from mid-April to mid-September, assisted by a modern tram that whisks you up the side of the mountain. The tour includes donning miner's clothes, hurtling down two long wooden slides, hiking through rocky tunnels, and even riding a little train. In-between these thrills, they throw in enough history to leave you marveling at this extraordinary place."
Sounds tailor-made for TAR, doesn't it? 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on November 08, 2008, 04:03:23 PM
 :lol:  Did a quick check of the license plate on the white Mercedes the blogger photographed as a TAR car in Salzburg (Austria).  It appears to be a German license plate.  Note the font, the Euro blue, the similar graphics consistent with a German plate.  So if it's not Swiss, and not Austrian, did they drive it all the way from Germany?   :angel:  How does this figure into the flight schedules?   :umn:  Or did they ship these cars in from Germany just for the product promotion.  So many questions....  :funny:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=110931;image
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Belle Book on November 08, 2008, 05:32:29 PM
So let's see if I've got the timing right (adding to above):
Oct 31 - Leave US (maybe SFO) - via Frankfurt/Zurich or Milan - to Locarno, Switzerland
Nov 1- 2: tasks around Locarno, drive to Salzburg
Nov 3: Tasks around Salzburg (Mirabell Gardens/St. Peter's Cemetery/Schloss Hellbrunn), drive to Munich
Nov 4: Fly from Munich to Bucharest (racers seen on direct flight, but others maybe via VIE or FRA)
Nov 5: Tasks around Brasov, Romania.
This is so weird, it's almost real time!

I'll bet by the time the teams get to Brasov, one or maybe two teams are already out of the Race.  So nine or ten teams are in Romania.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 08, 2008, 05:42:14 PM
:lol:  Did a quick check of the license plate on the white Mercedes the blogger photographed as a TAR car in Salzburg (Austria).  It appears to be a German license plate.  Note the font, the Euro blue, the similar graphics consistent with a German plate.  So if it's not Swiss, and not Austrian, did they drive it all the way from Germany?   :angel:  How does this figure into the flight schedules?   :umn:  Or did they ship these cars in from Germany just for the product promotion.  So many questions....  :funny:

That car was registered in Stuttgart, which is where the Mercedes factory is located. So that ties in with them being a sponsor product. It is quite common to put a bunch of cars on a truck and transport them from A to B in Europe. I would assume they will just pick the cars up and take them back to Stuttgart again on a truck when they are finished - it's only about 125 miles  from Munich - so only an hour or two drive on the autobahn
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 08, 2008, 09:02:01 PM
tar 14 started in los alamitos, california at the military base 100% correct my friends dad works at the military base

posted by future contestant. Post 20 in the Survivor Sucks TAR14 Spoiler Thread. Could be total bull but thought I would post it!  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2008, 09:13:27 PM
tar 14 started in los alamitos, california at the military base 100% correct my friends dad works at the military base

posted by future contestant. Post 20 in the Survivor Sucks TAR14 Spoiler Thread. Could be total bull but thought I would post it!  :duno:
I was just coming to post the link (http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/3679930/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html), I believe it.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 08, 2008, 09:49:08 PM
Let us assume that Los Alamitos was the starting point. Since I consider it unlikely for the U.S. military to transport Amazing Race 14 teams all the way to Europe, the logical conclusion you can draw is that they were taken by car or helicopter to the closest airport, which is John Wayne in Orange County. Alternatives are LAX and San Diego.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2008, 10:15:20 PM
The Amazing Race 7 used military helicopters to transport the teams to Long Beach from a military base who's name escapes me.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 08, 2008, 10:28:04 PM
Uh Duh to me ..

posted here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,3678.0.html)
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Rob
RFF Administrator
      TAR 7 Spoiler - Submitted on the News site!
« on: October 28, 2004, 08:58:47 PM » Modify Split Topic 

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This was submitted on the news site, and thought that the forum would be a better place! This is about TAR 7, NOT the Race that is starting in November:

The race will start at Edwards AFB in California. I heard from a friend who works there the show is working with Public Affairs from the base. The taping should be near the end of November.   
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2008, 12:38:48 PM
Yippee!! :hearts:

Presents from our Salzburg blogger!

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Yes, it was November 3. Whoever guessed the time of 4:45-5:15 was just about spot on. It was indeed a Pitstop because we could see through a side gate the check-in mat, a greeter dressed as Mozart (I'm assuming a man), and Phil. Phil was dressed in jacket, hat, and gloves and looked cold. It was chilly that night but it was a good chilly!

The exact location of the Pitstop was just inside the inner courtyard on the left-hand side. In the Forum Hellbrun overview photo, you see four photo icons/squares in a line across the courtyard when you enter it from the long entry road. The Pitstop was located between the first and second icons on the left.

I'm including two more photos of the team of two women. Not very good ones, but then again, your photo people might have some fun. Finally, there's a photo of the cars the next morning. My wife went jogging out to Hellbrunn at about 6:30am. She said that they'd closed up shop, so it looks like there were no day-late stragglers like there sometimes are (which must drive them insane).

What else? I overheard camera/sound folks expressing frustrations about their teams not having a clue but nothing very specific. It seems after teams check in, their camera/sound folks are done for the day. At different times, crews climbed into a black van and were whisked off into the Hellbrunn grounds, I'm assuming to wherever there was a buffet for staff since it was dinner time, but I have no proof of that.

All the best and good luck with your research!

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 12:42:07 PM
 :hearts: :jumpy:
yay
thanks peach!

I'm guessing that the F/F team is not the last team, because there are still three F/F teams left in Romania, and I doubt TAR casted FOUR F/F teams.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2008, 12:56:39 PM
And some more :jumpy:

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No photo of Phil, sorry! I could've been a punk and whipped out my camera while the man guarding the gate was telling me all about what was going on, but I didn't have the nerve.

The Pitstop pinpointing is good. 
   (I sent Chateau's pic for confirmation--peach)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14SaltzburgPitstopChateausGE.jpg)

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Regarding the gory slime: at first, I thought they'd been involved in a Halloween event even though it was Nov. 3. Halloween is celebrated here but not like it is at home. They sell some "Scream" masks in the stores--that's about it. Anyway, my wife guessed that they could've been taking part in some local custom, maybe something with beer brewing or cheese making. BUT the woman in the car I first saw as well as the older man and woman whom we saw at Hellbrunn had the stuff on them in places you'd figure you would clean up right away, like on your face. It's almost as if they were made up like that and were expected to leave it on. But again, I have no proof. There was some slime on one of the cars that I passed by. I should've taken a sample! By the way, the team of two women appeared to have no slime on them whatsoever which would imply they had a choice in a previous activity. A Detour?

As I thought more about it today, I do remember a crew member saying something about climbing a mountain earlier in the day. Something how his team person saw arrows pointing downward, but she thought it was a trick, so she went back up the mountain. Again, that was a fleeting conversation and I may be messing up the details.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 09, 2008, 12:57:45 PM
could do 4. Doubt it though!! The f/f team are african american. Are they or is it just the photo!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 12:59:40 PM
could do 4. Doubt it though!! The f/f team are african american. Are they or is it just the photo!

I can't tell Kiwi... In this one she sort of looks African American:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14SalzburgPitstopfmChase2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on November 09, 2008, 01:01:48 PM
 :wohoo:  I see NINE Mercedes parked facing in (and two other cars facing out).  Assuming 11 teams at the start of the race, then Salzburg might be the second pitstop.   :angel:

Sorry, I don't have cat-like vision, so I had to run the spolier pix through an editor to lighten them up to see the details.  Sorry.    ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2008, 01:06:41 PM
more just in:  :lol:

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The girls were nowhere near last! When we left Hellbrunn, there were only five or six white cars there. The next day, my wife took the photo with some dozen cars. No, I have a feeling that it was going to be a late night because we left at 6 p.m. or so and there had been no sign of anyone else arriving. Again, my wife is sure that by 6:30 a.m. the next day, all had been wrapped up. She ran through the courtyard where the Pitstop had been, and it was all cleaned up.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 09, 2008, 01:17:41 PM
more just in:  :lol:

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The girls were nowhere near last! When we left Hellbrunn, there were only five or six white cars there. The next day, my wife took the photo with some dozen cars. No, I have a feeling that it was going to be a late night because we left at 6 p.m. or so and there had been no sign of anyone else arriving. Again, my wife is sure that by 6:30 a.m. the next day, all had been wrapped up. She ran through the courtyard where the Pitstop had been, and it was all cleaned up.

 :jumpy: Wow! Thank you so much to our blogger for going the extra mile and sharing all this info and the extra photos with us :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 01:19:40 PM
:duno:  What the heck is the dude/dudette with the backpack carrying?  (long, cylindrical, silvery thingie).  The other couple seem to be carryinfg something also.  Too early for the Travelocity gnomes, ya think?

It looks like some sort of space ship LOL  :duno: :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 09, 2008, 01:29:21 PM
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The girls were nowhere near last! When we left Hellbrunn, there were only five or six white cars there. The next day, my wife took the photo with some dozen cars. No, I have a feeling that it was going to be a late night because we left at 6 p.m. or so and there had been no sign of anyone else arriving. Again, my wife is sure that by 6:30 a.m. the next day, all had been wrapped up. She ran through the courtyard where the Pitstop had been, and it was all cleaned up.

This statement all but confirms that this Pit Stop was extended beyond the nominal 12 hours.  All the cars were still there at 6:30 in the morning.  Even though teams had checked in prior to 6:30 pm the evening before.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on November 09, 2008, 03:20:32 PM
 :wohoo:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Belle Book on November 09, 2008, 03:38:15 PM
Guess I'd put this here! CBS must either be very impressed or very angry...

They're probably very impressed, but maybe a tad bit annoyed at our efficiency as Mrs. Shrek suggested.  Anyway, great job!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on November 09, 2008, 03:45:51 PM
That fits with my theory that there were nine or ten teams in Romania.  Looks like there were just nine, then -- and three all-female ones to boot!  This might be great!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 03:49:27 PM
From Michaels (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg359145.html#msg359145) find! Good job you two  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: romaniafan on November 09, 2008, 04:51:13 PM
Yay!! More dirt!! Thought the well had run dry on info from here in Romania, but just got this email from a friend here in Brasov:

"So I sat next to a guy at the wedding yesterday who is a cop in brasov and was assigned as a driver to some of the supporting crew for the amazing race when it came through. from bucharest they had to take the train to brasov, and they went to the black church where they found out their road block. i don't remember what the first one was but the second was something to do with a gypsy village. he didn't know what else they did in brasov but from brasov they went to bran and he said he didn't think they went to Bran Castle but they did have their pit stop. in all he said they spent about 3 days in romania and from here they went to russia."

The crazy thing is I was eating lunch about a minute's walk from the Black Church on Wednesday - if we'd timed it a little better, I might've seen some more action!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 04:54:03 PM
Yay!! More dirt!! Thought the well had run dry on info from here in Romania, but just got this email from a friend here in Brasov:

"So I sat next to a guy at the wedding yesterday who is a cop in brasov and was assigned as a driver to some of the supporting crew for the amazing race when it came through. from bucharest they had to take the train to brasov, and they went to the black church where they found out their road block. i don't remember what the first one was but the second was something to do with a gypsy village. he didn't know what else they did in brasov but from brasov they went to bran and he said he didn't think they went to Bran Castle but they did have their pit stop. in all he said they spent about 3 days in romania and from here they went to russia."

The crazy thing is I was eating lunch about a minute's walk from the Black Church on Wednesday - if we'd timed it a little better, I might've seen some more action!!!

OMG thanks romaniafan!


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 05:13:37 PM
Yay!! More dirt!! Thought the well had run dry on info from here in Romania, but just got this email from a friend here in Brasov:

"So I sat next to a guy at the wedding yesterday who is a cop in brasov and was assigned as a driver to some of the supporting crew for the amazing race when it came through. from bucharest they had to take the train to brasov, and they went to the black church where they found out their road block. i don't remember what the first one was but the second was something to do with a gypsy village. he didn't know what else they did in brasov but from brasov they went to bran and he said he didn't think they went to Bran Castle but they did have their pit stop. in all he said they spent about 3 days in romania and from here they went to russia."

The crazy thing is I was eating lunch about a minute's walk from the Black Church on Wednesday - if we'd timed it a little better, I might've seen some more action!!!
Oh thank you romaniafan! You rock!!  :yess: and Russia again! Wow!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Jobby on November 09, 2008, 05:54:33 PM
Great job everyone! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Jobby on November 09, 2008, 05:56:42 PM
Wow, Russia again? Could it be that this season they are going to spend the remaining legs flying to Europe, moving down to Asia, crossing over to Africa and then flying back to USA?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 09, 2008, 06:30:48 PM
I'd been hoping for maybe Turkey, or Scandanavia, but Russia is good too.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 06:47:42 PM
WTG Race Chasers  :wohoo:, we are on their tail!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: redwings8831 on November 09, 2008, 07:16:17 PM
I'd been hoping for maybe Turkey, or Scandanavia, but Russia is good too.

I would be surprised if they go back to St. Petersburg or Moscow. I think it will probably be somewhere in southern Russia, like Sochi. Some of Southern Russia borders the eastern part of the Black Sea and Romania borders the same body of water on the west, so it wouldn't be that far.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on November 09, 2008, 07:18:43 PM
 ;)  Looks like the church is about 2 miles from the station.   ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: topaz on November 09, 2008, 08:03:09 PM
I'd been hoping for maybe Turkey, or Scandanavia, but Russia is good too.

I would be surprised if they go back to St. Petersburg or Moscow. I think it will probably be somewhere in southern Russia, like Sochi. Some of Southern Russia borders the eastern part of the Black Sea and Romania borders the same body of water on the west, so it wouldn't be that far.
Sochi will be good because that city will host the 2014 Winter Olympics there.  And here's the info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochi#2014_Winter_Olympics :tup:

p.s.
I hope they should go to Kenya, this season and they'll should feature in an ancestral home town of US President elect Barack Obama, and I don't know where on that area. :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: password on November 09, 2008, 08:24:46 PM
I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 08:25:07 PM
I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.

Cool. Where did you hear these Rumours?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 08:31:54 PM
I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.

Cool. Where did you hear these Rumours?
I bet he read it here, and psssst its password ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 08:33:30 PM
I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.

Cool. Where did you hear these Rumours?
I bet he read it here, and psssst its password ;)

lmao, oops, my bad.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
Is it possible that the teams just had a connecting flight in Russia or something? I can't see them going to the same country in back-to-back seasons. I know they do it with India all the time, but India is just crazy.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 09, 2008, 08:54:44 PM
Russia is a big country, so I definitely wouldn't rule it out just because they have recently visited last season
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 09, 2008, 09:07:23 PM
I have heard rumors of Turkey being visited.
I've also heard rumors the racers are eating turkey somewhere on this race, but nothing confirmed. :P
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 09, 2008, 09:10:05 PM
Boingo, I too have been to the Black Church recently (August). It is a massive exterior structure with some great history inside, but I don't see any possibility of Aamzing RAce 14 going inside for tasks. There are things you can do in the vicinity outside that would make good AR14 tasks, including an eating challenge.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 09:13:18 PM
Well Seriously gives some clues ..

Amazing Race (http://seriouslyromania.com/2008/11/06/amazing-race/)
November 6, 2008 in général


And for those of you who are fans of the show, the Romania episode will be full of classics: gymnasts, gypsies, and vampires. Through some connections of mine here, I found out that the cast travels to nearby Bran Castle, engages in a challenge that included coffins and stakes, and visits a gypsy village (possibly in search of a clue). Of course, some of it plays off of the cultural myths about Romania. There is no question that some Romanians are interested in selling vampire kitsch to spook-seeking tourists, regardless of the relative lack of native tradition actually concerning the monsters. Much of the rest of the population at least tolerates it. And The Amazing Race clearly aims to take advantage.

But the show exploits more than the vampire legend. The most intriguing element of The Amazing Race episode in Romania relates to the gypsy village, which was, strangely, a fake. Constructed specially for the show in an area with a relatively low gypsy population, the artificial village was “populated” with ethnic Romanians dressed up in gypsy attire. Yes, even the supposed gypsies were impostors, as authentic as their costumes may have appeared. All this was done for the benefit of a reality television show. And tourism, of course.




Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2008, 09:43:19 PM
could do 4. Doubt it though!! The f/f team are african american. Are they or is it just the photo!

I can't tell Kiwi... In this one she sort of looks African American:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14SalzburgPitstopfmChase2.jpg)

More from our blogger! :jumpy:

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They were definitely not African American. I would guess that they were mid- to late- twenties, but it was getting dark so I could be totally off. The one in the pink had brown hair, the other had lighter hair, but not blond. The one in the pink dropped her water bottle, which was white. The camera man got the drop and the pick up on film, then they all started off again. They were totally heading the wrong way, convinced that lights on a pond area must be lighting the Pitstop. It took them a good five minutes to figure out where they really needed to be.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 09, 2008, 09:47:50 PM
The lighting mustn't be so good. I did that in TAR13 with Kelly in a CBS Promo it looked like Kelly was african american! So there are the Chrissy girl and Kelly Ripa look-alike. The dark haired and blonde women and the older african american ladies! Cool
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 09:49:06 PM
I worry that Michael will pre-jinx them  :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 09:50:41 PM
I worry that Michael will pre-jinx them  :'(

NOT SAYING A WORD.

(until I see their pictures and decide which one is hottest)

Geez, what's with everybody turning all the threads into the michael is a curse thread tongiht lmao
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Jobby on November 09, 2008, 09:50:55 PM
I worry that Michael will pre-jinx them  :'(

 :funny: I'm already liking the african american team.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2008, 10:01:37 PM
And here is another picture from our blogger who posted the beautiful clue box picture!!

Picture data: 11/3 5:19PM

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14SalzburgcarsfromBethannex.jpg)

She adds:


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I took this picture too, I believe these are the cars they were driving.  The dates that they were there: Nov 2nd and 3rd.  Glad to be a help!
 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 10:07:31 PM
From Mrs Shreks (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg359143.html#msg359143) find!? Good job peach and thank you to the bloggers for being so helpful and sharing :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 09, 2008, 10:20:07 PM
I worry that Michael will pre-jinx them  :'(

NOT SAYING A WORD.

(until I see their pictures and decide which one is hottest)

Geez, what's with everybody turning all the threads into the michael is a curse thread tongiht lmao
I think you raised the issue tonight. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: MilkBB on November 10, 2008, 06:20:48 AM
Maybe in Latvia in leg 4
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2008, 06:46:27 AM
Hi Milkbb and :welcome:

Is this something you heard, or something you would like to happen?

If it is something you heard about, can you tell us more please?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 10, 2008, 08:08:17 AM
For those who have not been to Salzburg (and even those that have), the Travel Channel from 12:00 to 12:30pm today is reprising the Salzburg episode of Samantha Brown's Passport to Europe. I don't remember it that well from an earlier viewing, but all of these Passport to Europe episodes follow a formula that is pretty good.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kogs on November 10, 2008, 07:39:01 PM
For those who have not been to Salzburg (and even those that have), the Travel Channel from 12:00 to 12:30pm today is reprising the Salzburg episode of Samantha Brown's Passport to Europe. I don't remember it that well from an earlier viewing, but all of these Passport to Europe episodes follow a formula that is pretty good.

love sammantha brown
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 08:09:53 PM
Nice to see you Kogs  :jumpy:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on November 10, 2008, 08:36:49 PM
I'm rooting for the Asian American couple, but with my luck an all-female team will finally win!  Still, I have had some luck picking favorites to win:  Chip & Kim and Uchenna & Joyce were my favorites in their seasons and they won!  So did the Linz Family in the Family Edition -- they were my favorites in that season!  So who's to say that I'll jinx the Asian couple by naming them my favorites?  Unlike Michael, I don't have a reputation for jinxing people or teams I root for.   :lol:

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 03:49:48 PM
nvm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Zack. on November 12, 2008, 08:18:45 AM
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Locarno
Salzburg
Romania
Somewhere in Asia
Somewhere Else in Asia
Hong Kong
Bali
Alice Springs, Australia
Canberra, Australia
Christchurch, New Zeland
Wellington New Zealand
U.S. Finish

I don't think they're going to skip Africa again. Also, they haven't done the Africa-Asia connection since TAR 7 (or TAR10 going in the reverse), so I think the somewheres are in Asia could be in Africa instead. We haven't done North Africa in ages - maybe Tunisia or (if they're really adventurous) Libya.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 12, 2008, 08:56:04 PM
Our Seriously Romania blogger has noted in their latest blog post the increase in traffic to their page after the posting of their Race spoilers :waves:

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By the way, mention some spoilers for The Amazing Race on your blog and watch your traffic double.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
That would truly be a nightmare  spoiling opportunity.  Fixed! :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 13, 2008, 10:56:49 AM
That would truly be a nightmare  spoiling opportunity.  Fixed! :funny:
Don't forget the European version if it ever gets off the ground! :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: cabioTAR on November 14, 2008, 11:05:58 PM
Just went through all in this thread .... so TAR14 & TARI is filming right now ...

WOW!   :hearts:

The PROD Team become bigger and bigger ....

While TARA3's finale is next week and TAR13 is also almost to the end .... now they are filming ....

so RFF Detectives  are also start to work ......... right?


Soon later TARA4 is coming too ....


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2008, 11:38:42 PM
Just went through all in this thread .... so TAR14 & TARI is filming right now ...

WOW!   :hearts:

The PROD Team become bigger and bigger ....

While TARA3's finale is next week and TAR13 is also almost to the end .... now they are filming ....

so RFF Detectives  are also start to work ......... right?


Soon later TARA4 is coming too ....



We're already 15 days into TAR14 and have not had a sighting since Brasov Romania on Nov 5th and thanks to romaniafan's info they stayed there for 3 days then, whether production crews or teams went to Russia, again thanks to romaniafan, remains to be seen. We have lost the trail *sigh* but more sightings will be discovered our detectives are  :jam:. 
If TPTB continue with the 20-23 day race schedule the teams should be back, the 20th -22nd give or take which is roughly a week away  :ascared OMG!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 14, 2008, 11:40:32 PM
yeah, there could be spoilers out there right now we just can't find them. hopefully some more are found soon  :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 15, 2008, 01:06:28 AM
BvM was 'scouting Asia' for TAR14 locations during his Tar13 interviews, so I expect there will be at least a leg or two there somewhere.
If only I could sneak a peak at his passport.... :angel:

The trouble is that with all the local versions in Asia, plus TAR ISrael filming, it would be very very easy to overlook the smallest piece of info that would get us back on the trail again....


sooner or later though, we'll find them  :snicker: back to the hunt :spy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 15, 2008, 01:13:55 AM
Well, since races usually end on Saturday mornings I'm going agree with puddin in saying that the race ends on November 22nd, a week from today, on Saturday morning.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2008, 03:14:01 PM
yeah, there could be spoilers out there right now we just can't find them. hopefully some more are found soon  :'(

I have faith!! And if anyone knows something and should want to chat,  :flirt: :angel: :flirt:  you'll find us to be all ears!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 07:06:21 PM
Thanks dhall! :hithere:



New Blog.........

Sunday, November 16, 2008
I love it here
This place is amazing.


Ok. I had always heard that and went "yeah yeah it's probably ok", but it really is a great place.

Beautiful view, cool people and great food.

Oh yeah, plus I was drinking $3 Long Island Iced Teas last night.

I am in the hotel internet, so it is kind of expensive and I don't want to be long.

Exciting news- on my domestic flight going Bangkok- Phuket, the Amazing Race contestents caught the same flight. And as I expected it's all a shame. Camera crews set up and take multiple shots of them running to the ticket counter, and then they got off the plane and ran down the stairs, only to get held up by customs. Stupid f'cking Americans.

Ahh they were wankers. They yelled at the Air stewardess because their large cameras didn't fit in the overhead lockers, they walked around the plane the whole flight to be sure no one was filming them and they were the biggest bunch of knobs.

But hey what do you really expect from American reality shows??



Hope everything is good back in Brisbane...

Peace.

eta: posted at 10:15 AM
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2008, 07:12:54 PM
 :wohoo: :jumpy: :jumpy: :wohoo:

So TAR 14? In Phuket?? Oh happy days!!

Good job puddin!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 07:28:44 PM
:wohoo: :jumpy: :jumpy: :wohoo:

So TAR 14? In Phuket?? Oh happy days!!

Good job puddin!!  :hearts:
Oh someone would have found it eventually. Thanks to dhall's sighting this has to be us!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on November 15, 2008, 08:03:50 PM
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And as I expected it's all a shame
I wonder if sham was meant.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: topaz on November 15, 2008, 08:32:13 PM
btw, since they're now in Phuket, Thailand, I heard that this city will be the final city for the final episode of TARA 3.  But, imho, that season is a bit lame just like on TAR 13 right now and I still like the previous season [TARA 2 and TAR 12].
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 08:41:24 PM
The blog I posted was written at 10:15 AM , I should have added that :)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: apskip on November 15, 2008, 10:12:34 PM
PHUKET TOURIST SUMMARY

Phuket, Thailand, is commonly referred to as the ‘Pearl of South’ and is the largest island in Thailand. Phuket Island runs 48 kilometers (34 miles) north to south and 21 kilometers (16 miles) east to west. Phuket is broken by a chain of mountains and valleys mainly from a north-south range running down the west coast. This accounts for about 70% of the land area. The tallest peak, Mai Tao Sip Song (12 Cane Peak) is 529 meters. The other 30% of the island is flat land located mainly in the central and eastern portions of the island. Laying in the Andaman Sea off southern Thailand’s west coast, the island’s terrain is incredibly varied, with rocky headlands, long broad sandy beaches, limestone cliffs, forested hills, small estuaries, lagoons, and tropical vegetation of all kinds. Its large size has allowed microclimates to develop in different areas of the island.

The island offers many different looks and feels for you to discover and enjoy. Kata Beach with its spectacular tropical scenery compared with the stately cassurina trees that are found on Nai Yang Beach just a few kilometers north. The triple canopy rainforest of Khao Phra Thaeo National Park to the mud flats and mangrove swamps of Koh Siray. Limestone outcroppings line the east coast and solid granite boulders on the west. Phuket is truly a tropical wonderland and offers something for just about everyone.
 
To help you find your way around the island this web site divides the island into five geographical areas Patong Beach, South Coast Area, Phuket Town, North Coast Area, and the North Central Area. It is organized around and gives directions from the Patong Beach area because the majority of visitors are located there. Those staying in the Kamala Beach area north of Patong or the Kata Beach and Karon Beach areas to the south should be able to easily make the necessary adjustments for distance and travel time.
 
Phuket Cruises, Phuket Elephant Trekking, ATV Tours, White Water Rafting , Phuket Golf and Simon Cabaret are major actiities available in the Phukey area.
 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 10:55:47 PM
"We caught a team of Amazing Race show on our train to Interlaken!"  picture taken on Nov 2, 2008!


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/p1010080.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 15, 2008, 11:00:50 PM
omg!! a TEAAAAM!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 11:06:48 PM
Why do I think I've seen them before?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 15, 2008, 11:07:34 PM
Why do I think I've seen them before?

i thought so too puddin, the guy looks like Nick Lachey lol

was there any blog associated with the photo?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 11:12:02 PM
No just a photo. Hes wearing a Auburn shirt as in Georgia.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 15, 2008, 11:14:39 PM
 :hearts: I love Interlaken. I'm glad they might get to go there.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 11:15:55 PM
A BB fan?  :lol:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tatoo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on November 15, 2008, 11:24:20 PM
Maybe the Auburn facebook pages?... :spy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 15, 2008, 11:25:09 PM
Ahem. Auburn is Alabama, lol.  And we just beat the pants off them today in football! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 11:35:09 PM
Ahem. Auburn is Alabama, lol.  And we just beat the pants off them today in football! :yess:
Oh I'm so dumb! And I watch college foot ball all the time! lol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on November 15, 2008, 11:50:57 PM
Where's Interlaken?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 12:52:00 AM
With Slowhatch's help because I wasn't sure, thank you Slowhatch  :kuss:, more on Interlaken, Switzerland and the Amazing Race  :sucks
TOI is Tourismus Interlaken, and "care," I'm guessing, is the group or committee that's tasked with handling WRP.

From this link/PDF (http://www.interlaken.ch/fileadmin/user_upload/services/ueber_uns/interlaken/toi-rubrik/toirubrik-10-08.pdf) and then translated  web page (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.interlaken.ch/fileadmin/user_upload/services/ueber_uns/interlaken/toi-rubrik/toirubrik-10-08.pdf&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DInterlaken%2Bamazing%2Brace%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dnews%26sa%3DN%26as_qdr%3Dm).


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tv.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 16, 2008, 01:19:50 AM
Betreuung also means Supervision/Support  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: PeeT_Pm52 on November 16, 2008, 08:41:36 AM
 :sucks :sucks :sucks :sucks :sucks

Thailand  :jam: :jam:

 :sucks :sucks :sucks :sucks :sucks
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
Our photo friend from the Interlaken picture that puddin discovered has been kind enough to send us a lot more info, as well as another picture for us to see!

:thankyou: so much!! And we are hoping to have you join us here!!

Quote
Thanks for your e-mail and excitement and I'm glad to be able to help
patching some of your Amazing Race puzzle!

We were on a train on Nov 2 to Spiez, Switzerland (and then transferring to
another train to Interlaken) when flocks of cameras and people got on in
Domodossola, Italy. I thought some sort of Italian celebrities were getting on
or something, but apparently they were Americans. They came around in our car
asking a few people 'around' us who were the locals from Italy (we boarded in
Milan) talking in a quiet manner, telling them that they are doing a travel show
without saying what it is. But it was obvious from their questions that for
people doing a travel show they had done NO research about where they were
filming (that's when we figured out what show it really was.)

We overheard they were quizzing people on the train for a certain name or place
in Interlaken, including talking to the Italian couple (both of whom spoke good
English and were well-traveled) sitting next to us. The team in on our car was
the ones in the photo, wearing orange shirts. We all rode to Spiez, and got off
and transferred to the train to Interlaken. It was probably a little after noon
when they boarded and it was about 2.30-3pm when we all got off in Interlaken. I
took photos of them at the train station when they were rushing into taxis and
heading somewhere. Each team seems to have a cameraman and a sound engineer
assigned and closely followed.

I also saw other 3 teams that got off (I don't really know how many are there in
total though). One older couple looking less agitated than the rest, another one
of looking-like sisters wearing green shirts, and the other team with an African
American lady. It's kind of funny that when we got off at Spiez awaiting quietly
to get on the next train, these teams all seemed scrambled and almost 'acted'
like they were going to miss a train and ran all over to get to the right
platform.. which was the one right next to where we got off. It was a tiny
station!

I'm attaching you another non-zoomed photo at the station too, taking at the
same time. I'm guessing that the older guy in there was the taxi driver.



(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14Interlakencontestants.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 16, 2008, 01:36:01 PM
Now, the question I have is whether the AR14 teams are going to Interlaken or just changing trains at Interlaken. It appears that the answer is going to, but Interlaken is a large train switching center conveniently right in the middle of Switzerland. Interlaken is where I got the first of 4 trains to get to the Jungfrau.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
apskip, I believe that they get off at Interlaken and go outside where they take a taxi, as seen in the picture and as described by our source.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 02:10:58 PM
The train pass's right through Locarno, SwissMiss08  (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/2031565/Is+the+Amazing+Race+in+Locarno,+Ticino%3F?offset=0&t=anonmsg358218) saw teams on Nov 1st ???

eta: actually this map is driving directions not train
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Domodossola_ItalytoSwitzerland.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 02:23:04 PM
Well I'm not a map person but heres some info:

The trip from Locarno to Domodossola is made by way of the Ferrovie Autolinee Regionali Ticinesi, or FART. This is a metre gauge elecric train also known as the Centovalli Railway. It is an interurban line that runs between Locarno and Domodossola, and is run by two companies, FART in Switzerland, and SSIF, or Società subalpina di imprese ferroviarie, in Italy. The route is a key link in connecting the Gotthard Line with the Simplon Line along the southern edge of the Alps. The SBB connects with Locarno from Bellinzona and the Gotthard line to the east, and with Domodossola from Brig to the west.

and http://www.sbb.ch/en/
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: patlini on November 16, 2008, 02:25:23 PM
FART   :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 16, 2008, 02:28:26 PM
This shot was taken here:   Panoramio (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/8185961)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14Interlakencontestants.jpg)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/8185961.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 02:53:50 PM
haha patlini, lol

So the could have spent time in Locarno on Nov 1st then early Nov 2 to Domodossola to Interlaken? Color me confused.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 16, 2008, 03:04:52 PM
Quote
I also saw other 3 teams that got off (I don't really know how many are there in
total though). One older couple looking less agitated than the rest, another one
of looking-like sisters wearing green shirts, and the other team with an African
American lady. It's kind of funny that when we got off at Spiez awaiting quietly
to get on the next train, these teams all seemed scrambled and almost 'acted'
like they were going to miss a train and ran all over to get to the right
platform.. which was the one right next to where we got off. It was a tiny
station!

I would guess that these 4 Teams are in the "middle" of three release groups from an overnight stay in Locarno.  Their train left Locarno at 10:47 am and reached Domodossola at 12:35 pm.  Then they got on the spoiler's train at 12:48 pm.

The trains from Locarno to Domodossola would be these three: 

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 03:17:57 PM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14Swisstrainroutes.jpg)



http://www.eurail.com/downloads/eurail/map_Eurail2008_part2.pdf




Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 16, 2008, 03:23:02 PM
I agree with the rail routes indicated by Chateau. There is one missing to complete the picture. Interlaken has 2 train schedules, East and West. It is the East which is most relevant to arriving from Spiez. The Spiez departure times between 2:25pm and 3:00 for this 25 minute ride are:

dep. Spiez 1425 arr. Interlaken Ost 1454
dep. Speiz 1432 arr. Interlaken Ost 1451

Note: Above schedules were changed from the West to the West station, as suggested by Chateau.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 16, 2008, 03:36:09 PM
Interlaken in the Bernese Oberland between Lakes Thun and Brienz and at the feet of the three famous peaks Eiger, Mönch and Jungfrau is a holiday and conference resort. In addition, there is the Schilthorn where there is a cablecar to the mountaintop featured in a James Bond film. A fleet of ships, including one historic paddle-steamer on each lake, cruises on Lakes Thun and Brienz, but maybe not in November. Just ten kilometres away from Interlaken, on a sunny south-facing slope, lies Beatenberg-Niederhorn, a paradise for paragliders. For hikers there is an extensive network of hiking routes. Although skiing is possible nearby, the season hasn't really started.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 16, 2008, 04:32:49 PM
Quote
Interlaken has 2 train schedules, East and West. It is the East which is most relevant to arriving from Spiez.

It probably does not matter too much but the Team was photographed getting a taxi outside the West Interlaken station.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on November 16, 2008, 10:16:08 PM
It's officially our Amazing Race-we have the yellow numbered tag! :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 16, 2008, 10:45:18 PM
mhm thats right  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Hooky on November 16, 2008, 10:50:18 PM
You guys are amazing indeed! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 11:02:37 PM
boom man
(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/2yvkzrq.jpg) TAR 14
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR11/southern_living_1164755340_dsc02126.jpg) Ushuaia, Argentina season 11

(http://i36.[banned image hosting site].com/2yjq7wx.jpg) Croatia season 12
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 11:06:19 PM
Our photo source for Interlaken is being such a huge help--and I am pleased to be able to use her name so please give Nijjy a BIG :ty for the all the info!

I asked more about the "sisters"  and more about if they heard anything about where they needed to go:

re the "sisters":  
Quote
I meant they were looking alike, but perhaps they are just friends.


Re the task:
Quote
I didn’t really hear what they were asking for during that time, but my husband thinks he heard they were asking how to find a person in Interlaken.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 16, 2008, 11:40:21 PM
What about the old couple what were they like. Gosh I hope they make it far!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 16, 2008, 11:44:03 PM
What about the old couple what were they like. Gosh I hope they make it far!!

older could also be referring to a team like Ken/Tina
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 16, 2008, 11:58:41 PM
will still like them. But dont rain on my parade  :knuckles:  :neener:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 12:01:38 AM
Heee... to you guys, old is probably thirty! :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 17, 2008, 12:02:44 AM
Heee... to you guys, old is probably thirty! :groan:

30 is anicent. Old is like 24 for me. (just kidding LOL)
*back to searching blogs*
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 17, 2008, 01:12:52 AM
Heee... to you guys, old is probably thirty! :groan:

30 is anicent. Old is like 24 for me. (just kidding LOL)
*back to searching blogs*


 :wise young people these days just don't have the respect they used to...

...back in my day..... :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 10:55:49 AM
New Blog.........

Sunday, November 16, 2008
I love it here
This place is amazing.


Ok. I had always heard that and went "yeah yeah it's probably ok", but it really is a great place.

Beautiful view, cool people and great food.

Oh yeah, plus I was drinking $3 Long Island Iced Teas last night.

I am in the hotel internet, so it is kind of expensive and I don't want to be long.

Exciting news- on my domestic flight going Bangkok- Phuket, the Amazing Race contestents caught the same flight. And as I expected it's all a shame. Camera crews set up and take multiple shots of them running to the ticket counter, and then they got off the plane and ran down the stairs, only to get held up by customs. Stupid f'cking Americans.

Ahh they were wankers. They yelled at the Air stewardess because their large cameras didn't fit in the overhead lockers, they walked around the plane the whole flight to be sure no one was filming them and they were the biggest bunch of knobs.

But hey what do you really expect from American reality shows??



Hope everything is good back in Brisbane...

Peace.

eta: posted at 10:15 AM

Our Aussie blogger has been kind enough to share some more info with us--  :ty3: !!

I asked was it production or the teams who were being jerks, :lol:

(bolds are mine)

Quote
....

And I must admit it wasnt so much the contestants who were jerks, more the production crew. I spoke to one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend.

Nice guy.

Also two older men.

The camera guys and production bothered me though, they seemed very pretentious, roaming around the plane like they owned it. As an Australian I do not appreciate this, as i believe everyone is the same, regardless of their fame, wealth, etc.

They all had a picture of a monkey and were looking for that.

our flight details were:

15/nov
Bangkok- phuket
thai airways
flight TG203- 0730

Sorry no pictures the camera crew acted like body guards.

Yes they did do multiple takes, one funny incedent was when we arrived all the teams ran, just to be held up by crowds and customs..that made me laugh.

...

hope this helps,
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 11:04:59 AM
Fantastic peach! Thanks you Aussie Blogger  :waves:


"They all had a picture of a monkey and were looking for that." :lol:  :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 17, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
maybe they're looking for the monkey cave (Suwankuha Temple)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 11:10:57 AM
" I think this monkey likes me!"
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 11:11:58 AM
Monkeys, huh? :lol:

A quick Google gives us multiple choices:

Monkey Beach: http://www.phuket.as/monkeybeach.php

Monkey training School (http://www.fodors.com/world/asia/thailand/phuket-and-the-southern-beaches/review-433231.html):  http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=31498988

Monkey Show at the zoo (please lord no):http://www.flixya.com/video/568356/Phuket_Monkey_Show#

Gibbon Rehab center (better): http://phuket.sawadee.com/grc.htm

Monkey Hill (http://jamie-monk.blogspot.com/2006/05/monkey-hill-phuket-khao-to-sae.html)

Please TAR, no trained monkey shows?  :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 11:14:04 AM
Why did I just know monkeys were going to be a bad idea? :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on November 17, 2008, 11:15:35 AM
Nothing more... descriptive? 'Cause if that's all the teams had they'd be running around in all directions! (Like we are...)

Would it be a statue or something? (I know, I know, girl on a swing in Auckland...)

Found this (http://bp2.blogger.com/_cLbKNlAvgiY/Ro9RTLl1s3I/AAAAAAAAARs/SA5cX1dhqkA/s1600-h/Statue-Phuket.jpg) in Phuket and this in Krabi town...

(http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/8/23/lifetravel/f_23monkey.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 11:20:28 AM
I'm asking, I'm asking! :groan: :pull :lol:

This is nice though: http://www.hasekamp.net/gibbon.htm although I doubt they would go there.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 17, 2008, 11:22:54 AM
Well think of it this way, if it's only a picture they have to go by then it's obviously going to be a very distinct looking monkey. They aren't just going to give them a picture of a common monkey and tell them to find it, especially in a place with so many monkies.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 17, 2008, 12:16:49 PM
I am hoping the race will come to one of the Pacific Island countries like Fiji or Palau.  If anyone hears anything please say so. ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 17, 2008, 12:21:27 PM
I am guessing the race could end anytime between the 20th and the 25th of this month and 11 to 12 legs might be possible if the 14th season began on October 31st and ended before the Thanksgiving holiday. ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 17, 2008, 03:42:30 PM
Nothing more... descriptive? 'Cause if that's all the teams had they'd be running around in all directions! (Like we are...)

Would it be a statue or something? (I know, I know, girl on a swing in Auckland...)

Found this (http://bp2.blogger.com/_cLbKNlAvgiY/Ro9RTLl1s3I/AAAAAAAAARs/SA5cX1dhqkA/s1600-h/Statue-Phuket.jpg) in Phuket and this in Krabi town...

(http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/8/23/lifetravel/f_23monkey.jpg)

Neobie, I thought of Krabi also, but I rejected it as a possibility for AR14. First, the flight was into Phuket, not Krabi. Krabi has its own airport, with Thai Airways daily direct flights from Bangkok, Air Asia from Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur and Tiger Airways direct from Singapore and Darwin. It is about 100 km from Phuket to Krabi, so that would be a long distance to go to somewhere that you can fly into. AR1 went to Krabi, which was the jumping off point for scaling "The King". That does not prevent it from being used again, but I doubt that it was in AR14.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 03:47:11 PM
I'm asking, I'm asking! :groan: :pull :lol:

Please ask him "Did you see or touch any monkeys?" :monkey
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 04:28:34 PM
From TWoP!
 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2667921&view=findpost&p=11051412

Thanks to ChristineC
 Just Tuned In

Quote
While waiting at the Delhi airport on Thursday night Nov.13, I spotted Phil sitting by himself at our boarding area.
He was on his way to Bangkok, but said he was scouting a location in Delhi.
We talked about the show, his career and family, and he asked us what we were doing in Delhi.
Told him we are real fans and he thanked us for that.
I was very impressed with how friendly he was. Got two great pictures with him.
We talked for about ten minutes, but his flight was leaving, so he had to return to his boarding area.
What a nice guy !!!!
Lucky ME !!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 17, 2008, 04:39:41 PM
Wow, that tells us that Bangkok or something near it is probably the leg before Phuket. If Phil was in Delhi airport the evening of  Nov. 13, then he had a pitstop start somewhere earlier on Nov. 13. He would arrive in Bangkok Nov. 14, which is too soon by almost 2 days to be in Phuket. I am going to guess that he was coming in from somewhere in Asia, probably somewhere in India. The largest metro area that has not been on Amazing Race is Bangalore.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Chateau d If on November 17, 2008, 04:43:31 PM
It looks like Phil was waiting to catch either

Indian Airlines IC 857 leaving DEL at 12:05 am (on November 14th) and arriving in Bangkok at 5:30 am

or

Thai Airways International TG 316 leaving DEL at 12:05 am (on November 14th) and arriving in Bangkok at 5:35 am
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
From TWoP!
 http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=2667921&view=findpost&p=11051412

Thanks to ChristineC
 Just Tuned In

Quote
While waiting at the Delhi airport on Thursday night Nov.13, I spotted Phil sitting by himself at our boarding area.
He was on his way to Bangkok, but said he was scouting a location in Delhi.
We talked about the show, his career and family, and he asked us what we were doing in Delhi.
Told him we are real fans and he thanked us for that.
I was very impressed with how friendly he was. Got two great pictures with him.
We talked for about ten minutes, but his flight was leaving, so he had to return to his boarding area.
What a nice guy !!!!
Lucky ME !!!!!!!

A Phil sighting! Nice!! Thanks peach and thanks to ChristineC :)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 05:01:03 PM
Remember that we had a rumor of them going on into Russia?? He could be connecting from there, right?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 05:42:15 PM
Remember that we had a rumor of them going on into Russia?? He could be connecting from there, right?
Romania, if details are correct, they spent 3 days there so Nov 5 6 7 then off to Russia.  Gosh looking at a map and there are so many options. How about Turkmenistan?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on November 17, 2008, 08:26:03 PM
New Blog.........

Sunday, November 16, 2008
I love it here
This place is amazing.


Ok. I had always heard that and went "yeah yeah it's probably ok", but it really is a great place.

Beautiful view, cool people and great food.

Oh yeah, plus I was drinking $3 Long Island Iced Teas last night.

I am in the hotel internet, so it is kind of expensive and I don't want to be long.

Exciting news- on my domestic flight going Bangkok- Phuket, the Amazing Race contestents caught the same flight. And as I expected it's all a shame. Camera crews set up and take multiple shots of them running to the ticket counter, and then they got off the plane and ran down the stairs, only to get held up by customs. Stupid f'cking Americans.

Ahh they were wankers. They yelled at the Air stewardess because their large cameras didn't fit in the overhead lockers, they walked around the plane the whole flight to be sure no one was filming them and they were the biggest bunch of knobs.

But hey what do you really expect from American reality shows??



Hope everything is good back in Brisbane...

Peace.

eta: posted at 10:15 AM

Our Aussie blogger has been kind enough to share some more info with us--  :ty3: !!

I asked was it production or the teams who were being jerks, :lol:

(bolds are mine)

Quote
....

And I must admit it wasnt so much the contestants who were jerks, more the production crew. I spoke to one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend.

Nice guy.

Also two older men.

The camera guys and production bothered me though, they seemed very pretentious, roaming around the plane like they owned it. As an Australian I do not appreciate this, as i believe everyone is the same, regardless of their fame, wealth, etc.

They all had a picture of a monkey and were looking for that.

our flight details were:

15/nov
Bangkok- phuket
thai airways
flight TG203- 0730

Sorry no pictures the camera crew acted like body guards.

Yes they did do multiple takes, one funny incedent was when we arrived all the teams ran, just to be held up by crowds and customs..that made me laugh.

...

hope this helps,

Okay, so I know the Asian couple makes it to Phuket at least.  Maybe they'll make the finals and even win!  I sure hope so -- I was so disappointed when Ron & Christina came in second last season!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 18, 2008, 08:02:28 AM
For those interested in viewing Phuket from a culinary and travel perspective, Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre Foods is reprising his Phuket show today at 5pm to 6pm EST on the Travel Channel.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: selkie on November 18, 2008, 10:13:11 AM

I don't think they're going to skip Africa again. Also, they haven't done the Africa-Asia connection since TAR 7 (or TAR10 going in the reverse), so I think the somewheres are in Asia could be in Africa instead. We haven't done North Africa in ages - maybe Tunisia or (if they're really adventurous) Libya.

Unless things have significantly changed in the last 3-6 months, Libya would be off the list because it's very difficult  for an American to get the right visa to get in there to film.   When they filmed Long Way Down going through there not too long ago, their two American crew members could not get permission to enter the country despite months of trying, and they had to skip from Tunisia to Egypt instead of staying with the mostly English/EU team. Which is a shame because it looked like a beautiful place. 

Even if the visa process has been streamlined to some degree, getting every single visa needed for 4-11 teams, plus film crews plus other production crew members in what's usually a pretty tight time frame after casting would probably be impossible at this point.

Kenya's also kind of iffy to make a tv show in right now because of recent ethnic violence.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2008, 01:00:38 PM
:welcome2: to RFF selkie!! Great info, thanks for sharing! :waves:

(And the Celt in me loves your name!)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 18, 2008, 11:50:43 PM
Welcome to the forum selkie :hithere:



Catching up on "Destination Unknown" (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml#)
• Maggie's Dubai Adventure
• Russ in Athens
• Russ enjoys Greek food -- in Greece!
• Julie in Paris

The only one that has not had a destination is Harry Smith I guess? So with that I'll guess we should keep our eyes on the Early Show next week for Phil's return? to perhaps wrap up the series.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: selkie on November 19, 2008, 08:36:27 AM
Thanks for the welcome!

As for the screen name, I was a swim team kid growing up, and always seemed to do better in water. I'm a total klutz on land.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kogs on November 19, 2008, 10:04:05 AM
Welcome to the forum selkie :hithere:



Catching up on "Destination Unknown" (http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml#)
• Maggie's Dubai Adventure
• Russ in Athens
• Russ enjoys Greek food -- in Greece!
• Julie in Paris

The only one that has not had a destination is Harry Smith I guess? So with that I'll guess we should keep our eyes on the Early Show next week for Phil's return? to perhaps wrap up the series.



harry is going to an aircraf carrier in the arabian sea
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 19, 2008, 12:37:24 PM
common bloggers!
three days left until the race is probably going to end!  :'( :hides
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Hooky on November 19, 2008, 04:07:50 PM
I doubt there will be more than 11 legs, unfortunately.

But 11 still seems waaay too short!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: password on November 19, 2008, 04:21:58 PM
I live in Toronto and I have seen clueboxes downtown and i believe some are posted on this site
When i went for a close look it looked like an AMAZING RACE USA one
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 19, 2008, 06:41:22 PM
 :whoop: I saw reindeer being chased by a fat guy in a red suit on Bloor street - oh wait - that was the Santa Claus parade.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: marigold on November 19, 2008, 07:09:24 PM
:whoop: I saw reindeer being chased by a fat guy in a red suit on Bloor street - oh wait - that was the Santa Claus parade.

 :funny: ha ha ha ha that is freaking hilarious I live on Bloor Street, yuppers Route Markers for the Santa Clause Parade

Good job though password  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 19, 2008, 08:57:50 PM
lol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: topaz on November 19, 2008, 09:06:18 PM
I live in Toronto and I have seen clueboxes downtown and i believe some are posted on this site
When i went for a close look it looked like an AMAZING RACE USA one
I dunno if that's a USA or Israel version, but you'll might get a clue on this link:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17852.75.html
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 19, 2008, 09:48:04 PM
nvm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: RichInSydney on November 20, 2008, 03:44:17 PM
I lost my wedding ring on our honeymoon last year up at the top of the Jungfrau.

Hopefully one of the team spots it!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 21, 2008, 06:34:22 PM

Maybe something?  :sucks

November 15, 2008~

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/phuket.jpg)
 
 
Two contestants in a TV production being filmed by foreigners in Phuket are on the verge of collapse after taking turns pulling each other around Phuket City as they raced against the clock in the midday heat.

PHUKET: At least four pairs of contestants taking part in a travel documentary are racing around Phuket using various forms of transport today.

One of the challenges that faced the contestants was to pull each other through Phuket City in the midday heat using rickshaws as they searched for “King Rama V Park”.

The contestants pictured here made “four wrong turns” and held up traffic while a camera man and a sound engineer followed them in a songtaew (wooden bus with benches). A policeman on a motorcycle also followed the contestants and crew to “ensure their safety”. The policeman told the reporter that even though he could easily have told them how to get to the park, he had been ordered not to give directions to the contestants.

The reporter caught up with production crew members at the park, but despite holding up traffic and creating quite a spectacle with brightly decorated rickshaws being pulled by very hot and stressed-looking farangs, they refused to make any comment on what they were doing, except to say that they were making a “random travel documentary”.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 21, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
.......blown up
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/larger-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2008, 07:14:42 PM
 :hearts: :wohoo: :hearts:

Thanks puddin!!

Oh why does the camera have to block the other team member, lol?

Only 4 teams left???

Finish line should be anytime now...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: topaz on November 21, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
:hearts: :wohoo: :hearts:

Thanks puddin!!

Oh why does the camera have to block the other team member, lol?

Only 4 teams left???

Finish line should be anytime now...
probably that was a non-elimination and a 9th out of 11 legs on Phuket, Thailand if it was 4 teams remained was sighted on that race.  And going from that city to the US for the final race is too far, I think.  If so, then the 10th leg is located somewhere in the North Pacific Rim countries but since none form my country [the Philippines] haven't sighted and heard the news yet that they'll gonna make a race again since season 5, and the possible places for the 10th leg of the race before going back to the US are Canada, South Korea, China, Japan, Saipan, Northern Marianas, Marshall Is., Papua or even in Vladivostok, Russia.

As for now, here's what we've heard and sighted on the contents of TAR 14 race legs:

Starting city --> San Diego or Los Angeles, USA
leg 1: Locarno, Switzerland
leg 2: Salzberg, Austria
leg 3: Bucharest, Romania
leg 4/5: probably in Russia, Turkey, Mideast, Armenia or Azerbaijan
leg 6: probably somewhere in East Africa (I hope Kenya)
leg 7: unknown
leg 8: probably India (again?), Nepal, Maldives or Bangladesh
leg 9: if it isn't a 2nd to the last leg, Phuket, Thailand
leg 10: probably Canada, South Korea, China, Japan, Saipan, Northern Marianas, Marshall Is., Papua or Vladivostok, Russia
final leg: back to USA
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 21, 2008, 09:16:40 PM
:hearts: :wohoo: :hearts:

Thanks puddin!!

Oh why does the camera have to block the other team member, lol?

Only 4 teams left???

Finish line should be anytime now...
Referring to my timeline on the Timelines, Timetables and Flight Information thread, I have Phuket as the 8th leg of 11. There are 3 legs left after Phuket if I have made correct assessments of AR14. It is a given that there are 3 teams left for the final leg. So if one of leg 9 or 10 is NEL or TBC, then the inference that the 4 teams seen in Phuket are what is left appears to be true. The other possibilities is that both of those legs are elimination, in which case there are 5 teams and one was not seen by the observer, or double non-elimination legs in which case there are only 3 teams left..
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 21, 2008, 09:25:01 PM
based on the legs that looks like a F/F team to me....(the legs of the hidden teamate)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 21, 2008, 09:32:37 PM
based on the legs that looks like a F/F team to me....(the legs of the hidden teamate)
Of course you think that it looks like 2 females Michael, now get your head out of your pants. :colors
I'm on the fence whether male or female?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 21, 2008, 09:34:21 PM
 :lol:
well, the socks and the shoes seem to match the female pulling it, so who knows haha
maybe more info will come once we hear from the blogger?


---also, they haven't been to Canada in forever so maybe they'll come ?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 21, 2008, 09:38:57 PM
Finale?

Quote
rob007
 11-20-08, 05:22 PM (EST)
     
"Amazing Race 14 Started today in Seattle"
Hey guys I'm new to the forum, but I am a huge fan of the show and after what happened today I had to just join and share with someone. The Amazing Race 14 started today in Seattle, WA. I am on travel in Seattle and while at the Public Market this morning I had the chance to see 5 teams come through the market headed for Pier 66. I actually had one team stop and ask for directions. What a thrill. I love the show and just had to tell someone. By the way I wish they would do an eposide where they reveal all the behind the scenes information such as what happens at pit stops and so on....
 


blows/rtvw (http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID37/1581.shtml)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 21, 2008, 09:44:43 PM
the finale 2 days ago?
that would make it a 21 day race (oct 31st - nov 20)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 21, 2008, 09:50:41 PM
the finale 2 days ago?
that would make it a 21 day race (oct 31st - nov 20)

Cute and can count, your going to make a fine husband someday Michael  :kuss:
Hey so I don't know but am searching Seattle now ........
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2008, 09:56:58 PM
I can do some checking, but not till Monday, darn the weekend...

Sounds funny though? 5 teams all together? Decoys would be scattered...

Although yesterday could be right.

I would think if they had been at Pier 66 we should have had more news--worse than Portland! :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 21, 2008, 10:00:41 PM
nvm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on November 21, 2008, 10:20:29 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/phuket.jpg)
I'm reasonably certain they're entering Rama IX park off of Chao Fah road; there's no Rama V park in Phuket that I could find. Compare the plants and the orange/rattan looking building in the background to this (http://www.mapjack.com/?iQdwT3PLXcwD).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2008, 10:36:54 PM
Here is a great map but I could also only find Rama IX--bottom left

http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/phuket_map/phuket_map_town.html
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 21, 2008, 10:38:12 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/phuket.jpg)
I'm reasonably certain they're entering Rama IX park off of Chao Fah road; there's no Rama V park in Phuket that I could find. Compare the plants and the orange/rattan looking building in the background to this (http://www.mapjack.com/?iQdwT3PLXcwD).
You find the best stuff Slowhatch!  :yess: :jam:

I can't get the angle but ......

(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/2dm7f61.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: selkie on November 22, 2008, 11:45:20 AM
If it's a slightly-built guy in the carriage, it could be a match with the Asian couple seen in Romania earlier in the race.  I dunno, though. I'd expect a little more bicep if the person in the carriage was male.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on November 22, 2008, 02:05:13 PM
It's possible that the male guy isn't heavily built.  In any case, we either have an all-female team or the Asian couple -- and I think somebody said the Asian couple makes it to Phuket.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 22, 2008, 02:30:48 PM
It's possible that the male guy isn't heavily built.  In any case, we either have an all-female team or the Asian couple -- and I think somebody said the Asian couple makes it to Phuket.

Belle Book

From the eyewitness/on the Phuket flight *one of the contestants, an asian looking man with his girlfriend. Nice guy
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: mswood on November 22, 2008, 06:01:30 PM
Heee... to you guys, old is probably thirty! :groan:

30 is anicent. Old is like 24 for me. (just kidding LOL)
*back to searching blogs*
See and that is why Michael is beloved on this board.....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2008, 12:28:33 AM
I still think it is TAR Israel! :lol:

Thanks to apple73 at TWoP!

Amazing Race pitstops in Sydney
By David Knox on November 23, 2008 Filed Under News The Amazing Race swept through Sydney last week, shooting episodes of its 14th season.

Quote
One reader tells TV Tonight, “I was in Sydney this weekend and they were filming new Amazing Race. They were at the Opera House. Two teams came up running with camera crews -I was so excited! I think they were after Mrs Macquarie’s Chair. I wanted to follow, them I love the show!”

According to news.com.au it was also in Manly: ….for an hour or so there was a sudden stampede of earnest, sweaty, tired types with backpacks clambering on the sand.

It’s not the first time TAR has visited Sydney, previously visiting the Harbour Bridge and Harry’s Cafe de Wheels. It’s also raced through Brissy, Perth, Adelaide, Cairn, Coober Pedy and Darwin.

Of the 14th season, Keoghan has said, “It’s incredible. It’s amazing, quite frankly. We’ll be heading out for the 14th time to go around the world. We keep having this opportunity and for me, it’s the best job I’ve ever had and I love it. And thankfully the viewers love it and it’s always nice to be employed and when you get employed. You get to go around the world and shoot great adventures with people and with an audience, there’s nothing more exciting than that.”

Source: news.com.au, CBS

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2008/11/amazing-race-pitstops-in-sydney.html
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2008, 01:11:06 AM
I think so too, its already posted in the TARI thread thanks to Google Alerts :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2008, 05:22:58 AM
oops! That's what I get for posting in my sleep!  :zzz  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 23, 2008, 11:22:11 AM
Another FWIW thanks to Masem @ Twop (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3173380&view=findpost&p=11077813)

Quote
Today @ 11:27 am Post#26
From the very unlikely but let-it-be-known department:

I'm driving into Tacoma, WA this morning along WA-509 around 8am when I saw boards saying "Filming in progress along 509, 6:30 -11:30am". Save for some cops waiting at the edges of this area, I saw no signs of a major film crew or anything they looked like fixed cameras in place. The area right before 509 dumps into downtown Tacoma (crossing to 705) was wetted down, however.

(Downtown Tacoma map; the 509 is the far right of it)

Now, again, this could be a legitimate film shoot, but the schedule is 1) about 23-24 days after the race started in late October, so returning to the US about now would be correct and 2) this follows the usual TAR tradition of an early morning Sunday end date. If I wasn't busy, I would have checked out a few places for TAR flags but I didn't see anything.

Now, why'd they be on the 509 would be likely one of two things (as if they were coming in from anywhere else, they'd be on the I-5): they could have had a task at one of the dockyards to the east, and then had to travel to a point proper inside Tacoma (for example, Defiance Park , which is the upper left part of the map), which makes the 509 appropriate, or they are trying to get to downtown Tacoma proper (like, for example, the Glass museum, a block away from 509/705) which they would come up I-5, onto the 705, and then onto 509 and into the city.
Again, I saw no flags, no film crew, no circling copters, so this simply could be a real film shoot, however it can't hurt to hope :-) (unfortunately today is really foggy, so panaramic shoots would not be great). 


I did a quicky search and came up with this, the Glass Museum would work for the Toyota commercial.

 
Quote
More Filming in Downtown Tacoma - Tomorrow
(20. November 2008, 13:19 ) ~


A film crew will shut down Commerce Street between S. 15th and S. 17th Streets on Friday, Nov. 21. The time frame the production coordinator has provided is 2 p.m. – 5 p.m. However, closure could occur as early as 1 p.m. During the closure, Pierce Transit will operate the Tacoma Link service using Pierce Transit buses.


Here’s the word:

It’ll be a Toyota commercial. They’ll be shooting in front of the Convention Center on Friday. Then, on Sunday, they’ll be down at the 21st Street Bridge and the Museum of Glass
http://www.exit133.com/4876/more-filming-in-downtown-tacoma-tomorrow
Title: [spoiler from China] TAR 14 comes to ....
Post by: TARA on November 24, 2008, 01:59:07 AM
I went to a local net-forum of TAR fans in china and someone posted saying TAR14 was visiting china. they saw Phil and the production crew. more than 40 people replied (that's a large number of population in the forum)
and more detailed information was post out
sorry, phil and Mr. Van Munster. I love your show so much, but people here just want to know more about it.
so here it is:
date: nov.18th
l
ocation: Guilin, Guangxi Province, China
a beautiful city with world famous
official tourisim site http://www.guilintourist.com/
Two crusted movements of earth took place about 200 and 180 million years age thrusting the limestone sediments out of the sea bottom. They were forced upwards more than 200 meters to the surface. This Karst formation was molded through many years of erosion by the wind and rain to become the hills and rocks with bizarre shapes. There are numerous complete Karst (limestone sites), which are of high scientific value and tour value.
Strongly recommended by the World Tourism Organization (WTO), Guilin is one of the most picturesque places in the world, making it one of the most ideal tourist destinations. With such an abundance of attractions, it has always possessed a special charm and appeal to visitors, especially to foreign visitors.

a girl said her boyfriend helped the production, seemed like to be one of the local assistant.
she claimed that when her bf told her that, she instantly thought about TAR and could confirm that.

they lived in Sheraton and the pit top was Sun-Moon-Tower.
and a mountain named Di-Tsai was also visited.
They also have been to a steel factory.
It was also said teams had to go to a hair salon to wash their hair.
Phil was described very tall and handsome by her bf.

And for security reasons, all assistants have been asked to remain their position after everyone is on the plane, the left the same day.
so far, no photo evidence.

P.S some others said people see a lot of foreign people running in the subway in Shanghai days b4 that which the city was visited in season 6.

a little about myself: a 19y.o Chinese boy currently studies in the U.S bcuz after watching TAR, I have decided to be a TV producer. AMAZING RACE is really amazing,

did anyone feel about their editing of the show had been worse since S9?
i checked out because BVM became the direcor of the show since that time. I would say S5-S7 were wonderful editing, but now, i don't get the feeling when I first time watch TAR of S5.
Title: Re: [spoiler from China] TAR 14 comes to ...
Post by: puddin on November 24, 2008, 02:13:13 AM
I went to a local net-forum of TAR fans in china and someone posted saying TAR14 was visiting china. they saw Phil and the production crew. more than 40 people replied (that's a large number of population in the forum)
and more detailed information was post out
sorry, phil and Mr. Van Munster. I love your show so much, but people here just want to know more about it.
so here it is:
date: nov.18th
l
ocation: Guilin, Guangxi Province, China
a beautiful city with world famous
official tourisim site http://www.guilintourist.com/
Two crusted movements of earth took place about 200 and 180 million years age thrusting the limestone sediments out of the sea bottom. They were forced upwards more than 200 meters to the surface. This Karst formation was molded through many years of erosion by the wind and rain to become the hills and rocks with bizarre shapes. There are numerous complete Karst (limestone sites), which are of high scientific value and tour value.
Strongly recommended by the World Tourism Organization (WTO), Guilin is one of the most picturesque places in the world, making it one of the most ideal tourist destinations. With such an abundance of attractions, it has always possessed a special charm and appeal to visitors, especially to foreign visitors.

a girl said her boyfriend helped the production, seemed like to be one of the local assistant.
she claimed that when her bf told her that, she instantly thought about TAR and could confirm that.

they lived in Sheraton and the pit top was Sun-Moon-Tower.
and a mountain named Di-Tsai was also visited.
They also have been to a steel factory.
It was also said teams had to go to a hair salon to wash their hair.
Phil was described very tall and handsome by her bf.

And for security reasons, all assistants have been asked to remain their position after everyone is on the plane, the left the same day.
so far, no photo evidence.

P.S some others said people see a lot of foreign people running in the subway in Shanghai days b4 that which the city was visited in season 6.



Thanks for the info TARA! I believe this is true. Can you provide a link to the China forum?
Title: Re: [spoiler from China] TAR 14 comes to ....
Post by: puddin on November 24, 2008, 02:20:42 AM
Also I took the Guilin, China out of your header/title TARA, some people might not want to know locations, nothing against you I hope you understand :)
Title: Re: [spoiler from China] TAR 14 comes to ....
Post by: topaz on November 24, 2008, 06:29:40 AM
see, my speculation is quite right.  They went to China alright and probably that will be the 10th leg of the race, and I'm also right that both TAR 14 and TAR Israel will simultaneously feature on that country as well and we're gonna see it next year.  btw, Guilin is located just on the southern part of China, and they're almost near to Hong Kong and Macau, the 2 cities that was filmed for the upcoming TAR Israel and imagine how very close to those places for the production of those 2 versions of TAR franchise.

And next year, it'll be the productions of TAR 15, TARA 4 and TAR LA, simultaneously.  And what country do you think it might feature on the filming of these 3 seasons of different TAR franchise, simultaneously?  Remember when both TAR 12 and TARA 2 was simultaneously filmed, last year, they'd featured Japan but they'd went to a different cities [on TAR 12 it was Osaka while TARA 2 was in Tokyo] and 6 or 7 months ago both TAR 13 and TARA 3, they'd raced to India.  Isn't it coincidence?

So, I'll take a guess, maybe Canada for TAR 15, TARA 4 and TAR LA?
Title: Re: [spoiler from China] TAR 14 comes to ....
Post by: apskip on November 24, 2008, 08:12:56 AM
"Guilin is located just on the southern part of China, and they're almost near to Hong Kong and Macau." I guess this depends on your definition of almost near. I took a hydrofoil from somewhere in the Guilin area direct to Hong Kong, a trip of over 500 miles. It took over 9 hours at hydrofoil speed. The 500 miles included a bypass of Guangzhou, so as the crow flies the distance is maybe 400 miles. I would not expect AR14 teams to have a 10th leg in Hong Kong due to past races visiting there.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: apskip on November 24, 2008, 12:52:35 PM
I don't have any really good ideas to present. I have the results of some spculation that I have been engaging in. We know that Phil was spotted in Delhi airport in the early hours of Nov. 14. That suggests that leg 7 might have been in India or just adjacent. The 3 most interesting places that prior Amazing Races have not visited are Kathmandu, Bangalore and Goa. I have investigated flights for each one and find that there are plenty of nonstop flights Kathmandu to Bangkok, so AR14 would not likely have gone to Bangkok via Delhi (even if it's just for Phil). From Bangalore to Bangkok there are lots of connections, but few going through Delhi, so I do not think that Bangalore was the lucky city. From Goa, there are no routes through Delhi so it is also unlikely to have been chosen.

So I can tell you which 3 Indian or Nepalese cities it is not likely to be. I have to go back to the drawing boards for other Indian cities that would be most accessible through Delhi. That list would have Bikaner, Varanasi, and Gwalior on it. It is possible that AR14 only had Phil connect in Delhi from somewhere north or west of India, but I doubt this. The rich Amazing Race episodes in India are legendary and I doubt they bypassed India if it was along the way.
Title: Re: [spoiler from China] TAR 14 comes to ....
Post by: Belle Book on November 24, 2008, 06:07:31 PM
Ooh, I think I'll enjoy seeing the teams in China!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 24, 2008, 09:27:24 PM
pure spec. but

Leg 1: L.A to Locarno, Switzerland
Leg 2: Switzerland to Domodossola, Italy and Interlaken, Switzerland
Leg 3: Switzerland to Salzburg, Austria
Leg 4: Austria to Brasov/Bucharest, Romania
Legs 5/6: African Countries
Leg 7: Russia: Unsure of timeline?
Leg 8: Phuket
Leg 9: Bangkok
Leg 10: Guilin, China
Finale: Back to homesoil!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: MilkBB on November 25, 2008, 06:45:47 AM
I am searching amazing race 14 while i was seeing this sentences in wikipedia.
People in australia have spotted racers in Sydney filming for the 14th season at the Sydney Opera House

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: nbase41 on November 25, 2008, 07:05:01 AM
pure spec. but

Leg 1: L.A to Locarno, Switzerland
Leg 2: Switzerland to Domodossola, Italy and Interlaken, Switzerland
Leg 3: Switzerland to Salzburg, Austria
Leg 4: Austria to Brasov/Bucharest, Romania
Legs 5/6: African Countries
Leg 7: Russia: Unsure of timeline?
Leg 8: Phuket
Leg 9: Bangkok
Leg 10: Guilin, China
Finale: Back to homesoil!

I don't believe TAR has been to and I wish they would go to:  Cartagena, Colombia - Barbados/ any of the Lesser Antilles, Sri Lanka, Ghana, Suriname, East Timor......some of which might pose travel or security issues. Hey, maybe North Korea huh?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: selkie on November 25, 2008, 07:32:24 AM
Sri Lanka was in TAR 6. I remember them having to run a disclaimer/memorial for the episode because tsunami happened in between when they filmed and when the episode aired.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2008, 08:13:58 AM
I am searching amazing race 14 while i was seeing this sentences in wikipedia.
People in australia have spotted racers in Sydney filming for the 14th season at the Sydney Opera House



:welcome: milkBB! We have all the Sydney sightings in the TAR Israel thread  Here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17852.0.html)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 25, 2008, 08:07:43 PM
Phil in the news! (finally)

Metropolitan News-Enterprise

Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Page

Anti-Defamation League Honors Two Attorneys

By a MetNews Staff Writer

The Anti-Defamation League will honor Los Angeles attorney Arthur N. Greenberg and Beverly Hills attorney Samuel Freshman at its annual dinner celebration Dec. 10, the organization has announced.

Greenberg, a founding partner of Greenberg Glusker Fields Claman & Machtinger LLP, will receive the group’s Jurisprudence Award, while Freshman, a founding partner of the Beverly Hills real estate firm Freshman, Marantz, Orlanski, Cooper and Klein, will share the group’s Humanitarian Award with his wife, Ardyth Freshman.

The organization said yesterday that Greenburg, also the former president of the Legal Aid Foundation of Los Angeles County, was being honored for his activism and leadership in several national and local Jewish organizations.

Admitted to the State Bar in 1953, he attended college and law school at UCLA.

The group also said that Freshman and his wife were being honored for their initiation and underwriting of the ADL’s Bearing Witness program for the past six years in Los Angeles.

The program is a partnership with the Archdiocese of Los Angeles’ Department of Catholic Schools that provides training to Catholic school teachers, seminarians and priests in order to teach about the history of anti-Semitism and the Holocaust.

Freshman attended college and law school at Stanford University, and was admitted to the State Bar in 1957.

The keynote speaker for the celebration, which will take place at the Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills and begin at 6:30 p.m., will be University of California President Mark G. Yudof. Master of Ceremonies is Phil Keoghan, Emmy-winning host of television’s The Amazing Race.

Tickets for the event are available through the ADL website and are $450 per person. Proceeds help ADL projects combating bigotry, prejudice and anti-Semitism.

 http://www.metnews.com/articles/2008/adl112508.htm
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Post by: Neobie on November 26, 2008, 06:08:01 AM
You guys owe me a day on Patong Beach! :knuckles:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/phuket.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9412/dsc01543qo9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2008, 08:22:36 AM
oh BOY!!!

From a blog dated 11/25 but describing events that occured 11/21-23 as best as I can tell: Starts at Beijing airport!

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Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo.  We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport.  That said, it was a lovely airport.

During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of  CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight.  Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing.  On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
M had to remind me a few times that something are better thought than said aloud and that when calling people “twits” and such it’s best to do it at a volume they can’t hear you.

Forthunately the flight itself wasn’t bad as a nap and bag of M&Ms calmed me down considerable after being cut in front of by the camera crew multiple times had me rather annoyed.

Still we had quite a ways to go and even bumped into the host Phil Keoghan as he waited for his flight to film the finale in Hawaii.  It’s important to note that the running, fighting and begging for seats that you see on TV didn’t really happen and oh yeah, Phil flies business class.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 26, 2008, 09:04:15 AM
I was just about to post that one.
Bet they're glad not to be in Bangkok this week...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on November 26, 2008, 09:20:29 AM
I wonder is that is the new 2nd Fast Forward.......instead of shaved head, now it is a bad red dye job!
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2008, 09:23:50 AM
I was just about to post that one.
Bet they're glad not to be in Bangkok this week...

Amen to that! Prayers for all there:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 26, 2008, 10:36:49 AM
My AR14 TImeline already lists Hawaii as one of 3 destinations for the AR14 Finish Line. What I find confusing is that the Asia departure city is Beijing. Beijing is not a typical connecting city between Guilin and the Finish Line. Tokyo was the logical connecting point for going to the Pacific Northwest.

So this leads me to conclude that there was an 11th leg in the Beijing area before a final 12th leg. Otherwise, there would be no reason to go through Beijing airport.

We still don't know where the leg between Phuket and Guilin goes.

I am going to ponder this and make appropriate alterations to tthe AR14 Timeline.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2008, 10:43:17 AM
Apskip, I believe the blog reads that they are on an Air China flight from Beijiing to Tokyo, but you are probably referring to Guilin>Beijiing here?

Remember too that the Pacific Northwest remains only speculation for now, Tacoma has been pretty much ruled out.

I hope to know more soon! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 26, 2008, 10:55:11 AM
I wonder is that is the new 2nd Fast Forward.......instead of shaved head, now it is a bad red dye job!
per the Guilin info posted by TARA maybe?  http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17941.0.html
Cool find peach!! :yes:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 26, 2008, 11:31:04 AM
omg double mint twins...f/f....finale....final three?

THANKS PEACH...

and holy crap Neobie, LOL, it's an EXACT match! good job! :D

(http://blog.wired.com/biotech/images/doublemint_twins753712.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: manilaguna on November 26, 2008, 11:59:44 AM
wow! after 9 seasons we will have a "new" twin team hmmm but what's with the double mint remark? I don't get it...hopefully it's a FF team ;p remember the poster who said that he saw a "sister looking team" maybe that's them or probably a new one that hasn't been spotted yet! ^^ hopefully CBS will show a TAR14 preview in the finale *crossed fingers ^^
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Post by: manilaguna on November 26, 2008, 12:01:08 PM
thanks Michael! now I got it haha go FF twins!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 26, 2008, 12:02:24 PM
wow! after 9 seasons we will have a "new" twin team hmmm but what's with the double mint remark? I don't get it...hopefully it's a FF team ;p remember the poster who said that he saw a "sister looking team" maybe that's them or probably a new one that hasn't been spotted yet! ^^ hopefully CBS will show a TAR14 preview in the finale *crossed fingers ^^

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the team with the badly dyed red hair is the two blondes that were spotted in romania (i think it was romania) that supposedly looked a lot alike....they may not actually be twins. Like DrRox and Puddin speculated I bet one of the tasks or maybe a FF was previously a dye your hair an ugly color or something because it was said that teams had to visit a salon in guilin.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 26, 2008, 12:09:22 PM
peach and I were just on the phone saying " I wonder when Michael would write......"  OMG F/F FTW :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 26, 2008, 12:11:12 PM
peach and I were just on the phone saying " I wonder when Michael would write......"  OMG F/F FTW :lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
 :neener: :neener: :neener:
you knew it was only a matter of time.

BUT STILL. I refuse to root for them.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 26, 2008, 12:32:16 PM
Yay. I am loving this season already. Hopefully the doublemints will be twins. We havent had them for 9 seasons as manilaguna said!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: manilaguna on November 26, 2008, 12:46:22 PM
Michael, the FF teams spotted in Romania were brunettes according to romaniafan. However, enzin77 also spotted a “dustin & kandice-like” FF team in Switzerland and Nijjy saw another FF team who were “looking like sisters wearing green shirts.”

Hmmm…putting it all together it seems plausible that the girls in green tops are indeed the “double mint twins?” who got bleached in China as a part of their task or maybe the Fast Forward as u guys said…bleached teeth is indeed a custom in many parts of Asia but I dunno about bleached hair? ^^  a Fast Forward in the final 4 would be awesome because it never happened before! Whew! I’m so excited now! lol

Furthermore, it seems like we might have 4 female teams this coming soon?
1. dustin-kandice look alike or prolly the double mint twins  (in Switzerland and China)
2. brunettes wearing pink and blue (in Romania & Thailand)
3. older African American team (in  Switzerland & Romania)
4. flight attendants (in Romania)

F/F FTW!!! ^^
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 26, 2008, 01:51:43 PM
I think the Kelly Ripa look alike team and flight attendants are one in the same?

Nov 5th
Brasov & Bucharest, Romania
romaniafan:
*I spotted at least four teams coming thru baggage claim at about that time, one of which might have overlapped with the ones my friend spotted
* Asian couple with backpacks
* two girls, looked to be in their 20s
*.. then I saw at least two other teams and their camera crews come running through the doors -
**one was two slightly older African American ladies,
***and another was two rather short men

romaniafans friend who was on flight with the teams:
*She was sitting right next to one of the contestants, my friend said she was a Kelly Ripa lookalike. This contestant had another friend sitting up a few rows, who she kept referring to as Chrissy.
**The lady also told the flight attendant that she and her friend Chrissy are Southwest Airlines flight attendants back home.
***She said she also had noticed one other team of two girls with backpacks and camera crews, which I suspect *may* have been the pair I (romaniafan) saw stalled outside baggage claim, but not sure.
****My friend said the racer sitting next to her on the plane had mentioned that others "from our group" had been on an earlier flight that day. And as I may have already mentioned, she was wearing a t-shirt with a picture of her daughter that said "I love you wherever I go".
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 26, 2008, 01:52:35 PM
yeah puddin i think they're the same too
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: password on November 26, 2008, 05:35:43 PM
The race probably ended in the western USA, Hawaii or Alaska as going from China (rumored) to the east makes no sense
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on November 26, 2008, 06:42:54 PM
Does this mean that there have to be 12 legs? I won't start celebrating prematurely until we know for sure! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on November 26, 2008, 07:00:04 PM
oh BOY!!!

From a blog dated 11/25 but describing events that occured 11/21-23 as best as I can tell: Starts at Beijing airport!

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Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo.  We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport.  That said, it was a lovely airport.

During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of  CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight.  Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing.  On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.
M had to remind me a few times that something are better thought than said aloud and that when calling people “twits” and such it’s best to do it at a volume they can’t hear you.

Forthunately the flight itself wasn’t bad as a nap and bag of M&Ms calmed me down considerable after being cut in front of by the camera crew multiple times had me rather annoyed.

Still we had quite a ways to go and even bumped into the host Phil Keoghan as he waited for his flight to film the finale in Hawaii.  It’s important to note that the running, fighting and begging for seats that you see on TV didn’t really happen and oh yeah, Phil flies business class.

Hmm ... I'll bet the bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair were part of a Fast-Forward task -- or at least the badly dyed hair was.  And the blonde women were probably the team who had their hair dyed -- which means they probably make the Final 3!  Well, at least we'll have an all-female team in the finals -- let's hope this team's a good one!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: topaz on November 26, 2008, 07:32:53 PM
so, the final city will be in Honolulu, Hawaii [again] and according to that latest speculation where there's a 3 remaining teams sighted in Beijing airport.  IMO, I believe that the 3 remaining teams were racing on that city (in Beijing) before heading toward to a final city, Honolulu and they'd should get a connecting flight in tokyo as the only way to get there but they're on a waiting list.  Racing to Tokyo before heading to Honolulu, looks like it's impossible to me because there's already been shooting for the upcoming TAR Israel which it was reported according to a witness there and it might cause a confusion there if both of them are filming at the same time in a same city.  So the final leg for TAR 14 might looks like this: from Guilin to Beijing, China and there, the final 3 teams are doing some tasks there [and probably they'll might be visit to Beijing Olympic Stadium there and do a Detour or Road Block task which is based on a olympic games] before heading to the final city, Honolulu. :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2008, 08:05:39 PM
topaz, that is nice speculation, but PLEASE be sure to say so, okay?

Honolulu is NOT known to be the final city. All we know right now is that teams are heading to Hawaii.  We don't know the final island even,  so to say Honolulu is final city is premature, I think.

We also know that TOKYO is a connection only per the blog itself.  I recall reading nothing about a waiting list.

It is fun to speculate on what may or may not happen, but at this point it is crucial that we all be quite clear about what is and what isn't KNOWN vs SPEC. Otherwise we will all be getting Google alerts saying that RFF says that Honolulu is the final city.  :groan:

We also don't know yet whether teams were in Beijiing for tasks or not, but I am inclined to agree that it could be quite possibly the last leg before the finale.

But as spec I heard quite a bit of chatter from various sources that suggested that the Olympic Stadium in Beijiing was going to be used for a task in TARA 3 , so perhaps that all was meant for TAR 14 and not TARA at all?? I'd love that!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on November 26, 2008, 09:51:05 PM
PHUKET, THAILAND - So I was nosing around Rama IX Park, disturbing everyone unfortunate enough to cross my path - joggers, students, road sweepers... My three-day-old Thai wasn't very helpful, but this is what I found out:

Only about 5% of the conversations were in English, so there might have been quite some miscommunication...

According to the gardeners, a group arrived in the park at about 4pm. Production in the park went on for about two hours, until about 6pm. They gave me the *running motion* *around the lake motion*. Appearing frequently in the conversation was the English word "exercise".

A cyclist told me that production spent time in the Fitness Center - a tiny indoor public gym on the north side of the park. Normal opening hours are 6am to 9.30am and then 5pm to 8.30pm (for the working class), so there might have been an Hours of Operation. The guy who opened the shutters at 5pm couldn't, or wouldn't, communicate anything about what happened.

The Phuket Gazette photo was taken next to a police booth. Nothing from them. The shops along the road outside the park mostly don't know anything, and even those who said they knew, I think those were false positives. (My fault, my Thai sucks.)

I have absolutely no idea what they could have done in that gym. It's just weights machines and stuff. There were photos of a muay thai event on the notice board though, but it looked like a different location. Heading all the way to Phuket, to lift weights??

Oh, by the way? Teams trying to get to "Rama Nine Park" will not get ANYTHING out of the locals. They know it as Seum Luang, and even then it's pronounced quite differently than the way we would...

Your foreign correspondent Neobie, reporting from Phuket.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 26, 2008, 10:00:22 PM
Bless you Neobie!!  :jumpy:  :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2008, 11:38:04 PM
Be safe Neobie!! That's the most important thing!!

Thanks for the info!! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 27, 2008, 10:23:16 PM
And no surprise to those of us who are following the TIMELINE thread, but I am pleased to be able to confirm from an independent source, that the race did finish 100% on or before 11/23, and almost certainly either on or just before 11/22.  :angel:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 27, 2008, 10:25:52 PM
And no surprise to those of us who are following the TIMELINE thread, but I am pleased to be able to confirm from an independent source, that the race did finish 100% on or before 11/23, and almost certainly either on or just before 11/22.  :angel:

you are so good!
GO F/F team!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 27, 2008, 10:58:47 PM
whoo hoo
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: manilaguna on November 28, 2008, 08:07:53 AM
puddin! thanks for the detailed explanation, they might be the same though. Nevertheless, 3 FF team way is better than 2, so it's gonna be awesome! Can't wait for season 14! more diversity, FF team in the final 3 and I hope they win!!!! omg! I'm so excited!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on November 28, 2008, 10:48:00 AM
You know how astronomers find new stars by looking where there's a blank spot in the night sky? Yeah that's kind of the way it is with TAR.

Popped by the Phuket Zoo, and the staff there were very reluctant about saying anything to do with filming! There were some pretty lame excuses ("Oh there are many people." "Oh I forget."), so I can pretty much confirm that this is one of our racers' locations!

Which, sad to say, kind of means a monkey show is slated to appear on our TV screens soon.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2008, 10:54:36 AM
You know how astronomers find new stars by looking where there's a blank spot in the night sky? Yeah that's kind of the way it is with TAR.

Popped by the Phuket Zoo, and the staff there were very reluctant about saying anything to do with filming! There were some pretty lame excuses ("Oh there are many people." "Oh I forget."), so I can pretty much confirm that this is one of our racers' locations!

Which, sad to say, kind of means a monkey show is slated to appear on our TV screens soon.
Your awesome Neobie! thank you for the new info!

....and we all hope you are home or at least somewhere safe!  :hugs:  :kuss:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2008, 11:20:57 AM
oh NO! That monkey show at the zoo is the lamest--there are several YouTubes you can watch...

Thanks for sharing Neobie! TAR Detectives in action! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 28, 2008, 11:41:55 AM
UPDATE FEB 22 2009
THIS WAS A LIE -- IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT I REALLY THINK, GO HERE: http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/4099822/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html

OK well, I was sent this on facebook,

take it for what it's worth ....


eta: :lies: :lies:  :ahat:

Quote
I have some information regarding TAR 14, but unfortunately the website won't send me an activation email, so I am passing this info on the only way possible for me at the moment.

One of my mothers friends saw several teams in Thailand and because she is a TAR fan, she recognized them straight away and began talking to them.

One of the teams was the father/son team

One was the young dating team in orange, one of whom was deaf.

The third team was a team of two male dwarfs (possibly the 'two short men')

She spoke with the deaf woman for a long time in the airport, and she whispered 'we're in a race' to her. The deaf woman also said to trip the dwarfs, they aren't nice people.

There were camera men with every team who were being very careful about people taking photos. In spite of this, she said she managed to get several good photos of the teams she saw.

I will send the photos when I can get my hands on them.
 
If this were true that would mean the F4 is: two short men, father/son, orange auburn couple, and a f/f team ....

I'm not buying it, but i wanted to post it anyways just in case lol.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2008, 11:47:13 AM
I tend to think its legit Michael, we shall see? I have activated the persons account, well I guessed at it thanks to Michaels info, lol
OH pictures!! I want to see them!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2008, 12:07:32 PM
She "talked" a long time w/ the deaf woman? Does  she sign ?? ???

Pictures will be fabulous, of course!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2008, 12:10:37 PM
She "talked" a long time w/ the deaf woman? Not unless she she signs!  :snicker:
We don't know that she doesn't sign? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, I don't think someone would go through so much trouble to make up a story you know? If its fake I'll take the blame so says Michael :D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 28, 2008, 12:12:40 PM
I'm just saying...

if SHE:

(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm2/wakwakwak_2008/wipppppppp.jpg)

was deaf, wouldn't she have hearing aids?

she looks like she's talking to the taxi driver?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 28, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
Notice in the picture that they are taping her, but the sound guy is occupied with the other van.

Maybe the sound guy isn't recording her because she isn't speaking - just pointing out stuff on the paper.
And why are there two vans?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2008, 01:45:01 PM
If Michael's emailer has photo's I think he/she will be a godsend. Hoping this information is legit!  :dance:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2008, 01:49:04 PM
Notice in the picture that they are taping her, but the sound guy is occupied with the other van.

Maybe the sound guy isn't recording her because she isn't speaking - just pointing out stuff on the paper.
And why are there two vans?
2 vans because there are several teams. And who says because she is deaf she cannot speak? even so wouldn't the male be recorded...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2008, 02:18:04 PM
I think it looks like they are doing a zoom in on the clue. I think if the womens info is legit the blonde auburn women can speak and she can read lips as well as signs so she new what the women was saying. I am just being optimistic hoping this info is legit!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2008, 02:32:45 PM
Certainly deaf people can speak, it is just that I understood that all of her communication would be captioned, as in "translated", so I assumed that speech might not be her primary mode, which led me to believe that she would be signing.

There is still a division among which route is better for hearing impaired children: do you mainstream them into lip reading and speech or do you go with primarily signing?

The way the info was relayed to me made me think that signing would be the case here, but that could always be my misinterpretation of what I was told. If so, it will be my bad!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on November 28, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
A deaf person?  Wow!  I got the chance to meet Heather Whitestone, the first (and I think only) deaf Miss America, and I got her autograph!  It was at the Miss America Boardwalk Parade when it was in Atlantic City.  This is another team I'll be rooting for!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 28, 2008, 05:01:09 PM
Hello everybody, Michael's emailer here.

Unless my mum is lying to me, and that would mean in turn that mum's friend is lying to her, the info is legit.

It came from a fan of the race, that's why she took all the photos.


And RE: The deaf girl, do we all remember Christa from Survivor a while back who spoke and read lips?

I think this woman would speak to most people because, let's face it, how many people know how to sign?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2008, 05:17:24 PM
Hello everybody, Michael's emailer here.

Unless my mum is lying to me, and that would mean in turn that mum's friend is lying to her, the info is legit.

It came from a fan of the race, that's why she took all the photos.


And RE: The deaf girl, do we all remember Christa from Survivor a while back who spoke and read lips?

I think this woman would speak to most people because, let's face it, how many people know how to sign?

Thanks for the info Coutzy :jumpy:. I didn't think someone would go through all this trouble to make up a story so went with my gut. Do you know if the friend gave your mom a date?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 28, 2008, 05:22:04 PM
No date has been set at the moment because of the terror situation.

And I'm definitely not making this up, I wouldn't do that to the only people in the world who can match my love for TAR.


Seriously, I'm downloading TAR 13 off youtube because I can't wait two weeks for it to be on Aussie TV, and I can't wait 24 hours for the torrent to download.

That's commitment.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 28, 2008, 05:28:38 PM
Well were looking forward to those photos Coutzy if and when possible. And enjoy the show!! last weeks had one of the funniest moments ever!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 28, 2008, 06:23:45 PM
wondering too if and when we could take a look at the photos   :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2008, 07:42:40 PM
:bigwelcome to RFF Coutzy!

Thank you so much for being persistent in finding a way to share this with us, and please thank your Mom's friend as well, I hope she is safe?

What great luck to have a TAR fan see them at the airport! :hearts:

Would it be possible to clarify with her which airport, what date she saw them, and the approximate time? Which way were they headed?

I will be eager to hear more about her description of the hearing impaired racer-- as we all know, Adrian and Collin showed in TARA 2 that winning the race is totally possible for a hearing impaired racer. I think seeing the communication dynamics will be so interesting--perhaps it won't even be an issue!  I remember Adrain and Collin saying that sign language could be a great way for them to communicate privately, so it could be fun to see if that happens here. Clearly they are doing great in the race to make it this far!

And please let me know if I can help with links to TAR13 for you...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 28, 2008, 08:50:22 PM
They were headed from Bangkok to Phucket a week or two ago, I'll clarify all of this as soon as I get the chance.

The woman I got the info from is back home, she's just waiting on her friend, who has all the pictures.

The second I get a hold of them, you guys will be the first to know.

EDIT: Also, she only saw three teams on her flight, so there's definitely some separation between teams in Thailand, unless they all caught the same connecting or had an hours of operation leveler.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: asamber1 on November 28, 2008, 11:34:19 PM
I dont want to sound off, but when i look at the girl in Orange she just looks deaf to me idk why.

But many deaf people dont wear hearing aids [Marlee Matlin doesnt wear any, Christie on Survivor Didnt].  Also she didnt say how deaf the girls was, she could just be deaf in one ear.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 29, 2008, 12:00:30 AM
Found this from a blog...not sure exactly WHERE or WHEN, but it was posted on Nov 26th..

Quote
About that filming crew, well two braided pigtailed twins in backpacks ran by us as a film crew chased them —we were watching the Amazing Race!! We figured it was the German television version.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2008, 12:02:43 AM
Found this from a blog...not sure exactly WHERE or WHEN, but it was posted on Nov 26th..

Quote
About that filming crew, well two braided pigtailed twins in backpacks ran by us as a film crew chased them —we were watching the Amazing Race!! We figured it was the German television version.
Already posted Michael, in the Israel thread.

I dont want to sound off, but when i look at the girl in Orange she just looks deaf to me idk why.

But many deaf people dont wear hearing aids [Marlee Matlin doesnt wear any, Christie on Survivor Didnt].  Also she didnt say how deaf the girls was, she could just be deaf in one ear.
What the hell? How does someone look deaf? *groan*
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on November 29, 2008, 12:04:03 AM
Found this from a blog...not sure exactly WHERE or WHEN, but it was posted on Nov 26th..

Quote
About that filming crew, well two braided pigtailed twins in backpacks ran by us as a film crew chased them —we were watching the Amazing Race!! We figured it was the German television version.
Already posted Michael, in the Israel thread.

I dont want to sound off, but when i look at the girl in Orange she just looks deaf to me idk why.

But many deaf people dont wear hearing aids [Marlee Matlin doesnt wear any, Christie on Survivor Didnt].  Also she didnt say how deaf the girls was, she could just be deaf in one ear.
What the hell? How does someone look deaf? *groan*

ooopsy doodles LOL
i probably look so blind right now!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 29, 2008, 01:27:03 AM
 :hearts: cant wait to see them courtzy
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on November 29, 2008, 02:39:01 AM
Wow, team spoilers are great! It's hard to communicate team information with the locals here...

With the help of Peach, managed to find the office of the Phuket Gazette editorial team. They've been really happy to help (thanks guys!), but what they know, they've already put in the story. Chief editor Nick Davies was the one who spotted the teams at Rama IX Park. He tried talking to some of the production crew, but they refused to tell him anything.

What he can tell us though, is that this happened in the early afternoon.

Thanks to Mr Stephen Fein, Mr Nick Davies and the entire Phuket Gazette editorial team. You've been too kind to entertain us!

(One last part on Phuket coming up the next couple of days...)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 29, 2008, 02:48:40 AM
You rock Neobie!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Alvin06 on November 29, 2008, 06:14:22 AM
Wow, you guys are really good TAR detectives!

Do we have a temporary map in place for the destinations so far?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2008, 08:45:17 AM
Neobie, can you talk the Phuket Gazette team into sharing another picture?? Thanks so much for talking to them!! Great job!! :hugs:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on November 29, 2008, 04:46:30 PM
Wow, you guys are really good TAR detectives!

Do we have a temporary map in place for the destinations so far?

Alvin06, I suggest you read the AR14 Timelines, Timetables and Flight Information thread, looking for the latest timetable. There is a listing for each day of Oct. 31 to Nov. 22. It has not been transcribed onto any map by anyone yet, but feel free to do that.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2008, 12:34:42 AM
Could we take another look at this one, currently over in TAR Israel?

Sukhothai, Thailand Novemeber 18th

"We ran into The Amazing Race Asia 4 and gave these 2 racers a lift"

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar2.jpg)

I'm wondering if this couldn't be TAR 14 after all?

From apskip's Timeline:

AR14 Timeline(revised 11/26):
Nov. 14 leg 8 leave unknown location #3 to arrive Bangkok the next morning
Nov. 15 fly Bangkok to Phuket apparently on TG203 0740 0850, then tasks in Phuket area
Nov. 16 leg 9 fly from Phuket to ?
Nov. 18 leg 10 fly from ? to Guilin
Nov. 20 leg 11 Guilin to Beijing, then tasks in Beijing and start pitstop

Phuket to Sokhothai by 11/18 is certainly possible. And at this early stage it would be easy for us to be off by one day so this could possibly be a task>>Pitstop day OR a release from Pitstop day heading to Guilin.

Just thinking....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2008, 01:11:11 AM
It could be peach but we'll wait and see if we could get from Phuket to Guilin and still do tasks in Guilin on the 18th, then of course the photographers photo data might be off as we have learned in the past  :lol: .
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on November 30, 2008, 01:20:44 AM
Sorry Peach, I think they decided not to follow up with the story - and that's all they have! :duno:

Alright one last bit from the streets of Phuket:

Met a group of elderly gentlemen in Rama IX Park who spoke Cantonese, and they told me that something had been going on along Thanon Thalang, in the historic core of town. And... that happens to be exactly where my hotel is!

So for two days I've been walking up and down the streets in the district, drawing pictures of boxes and envelopes... You get the picture! :lol: And yes, apart from the "sightings" of a certain Leonardo DiCaprio filming The Beach a couple of years back, there's TAR news!

At about 1-3pm on 15 November, various shopkeepers in the district saw farangs pulling rickshaws around the street. A shop on the western end of Th Thalang suggested that they might have started on Soi Romani (a little alley running off the north side of the street). However, shops on the alley know nothing about TAR filming, instead pointing me to another production there on the 27th. A traffic warden I talked to on Th Krabi told me about Wat Phuttha Mongkhon Nimit on the north end of Soi Romani (followed by communication breakdown), so I'm not sure if he was talking about TAR or rickshaws in general. No rickshaws when I went to the temple though.

Other sightings, that when plotted on a map, give a good sense of where teams would have gone:
East along Th Dibuk, between Soi Romani and Th Phuket
South along Th Phuket, between Th Dibuk and Th Thalang
West along Th Thalang, between Th Phuket and Th Yaowarat

The sightings then disappear. I'm really not sure how they made their way to Rama IX Park from there. Two shops also suggested the Thai-Chinese Museum on the north side of Th Krabi as a *Thai lost in translation*, but I didn't understand the significance. Staff there genuinely didn't seem to know much.

Somewhere in one of these conversations there was a mention of a woman pulling a man; but the man was "holding a camera", so I'm not sure what that means. There was also mention of a police escort going in front of the teams, about two or three motorcycles.

There remains one single hotspot that I have yet to talk about. Everyone within a 50m radius pointed me to a Chinese herbal shop on the south side of Th Thalang, touting itself to be the "Oldest Herbal Shop in Phuket". Another communication breakdown there (real or feigned), but there's one thing that made me very sure that TAR was here.

Coming right up with photos! Need to find an internet cafe with the necessary hardware...



Realized I just spent my single day in Bangkok surfing RFF.

Quote from: One Night in Bangkok
It's really such a pity to be looking at the board, not looking at the city...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 01:27:08 AM
We await with bated breath on those Photos, and as soon as somebody ID's the places, we can look at potential tasks in those places.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2008, 01:32:18 AM
Looking forward to seeing your pictures Neobie and how exciting for you and us!  :jumpy:
Your pretty amazing Neobie! :hearts:

peach, looking at the photo takers album,  it looks like he was at Phitsanulok early that same day. Just an FYI.

Sukhothai Province

The Sukhothai Historical Park Approximately 427 kilometres (270 miles) north of Bangkok and 330 kilometres (200 miles) south of Chiengmai. The most convenient route is via Phitsanulok, which can be reached either by plane or train direct from Bangkok or Chiengmai. Alternatively, one may travel by bus all the way from Bangkok or Chiengmai to Tak which is 68 kilometres (42 miles) to Old Sukhothai (and a further 12 kilometres or 8 miles east to New Sukhothai). 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2008, 01:33:26 AM
We await with bated breath on those Photos, and as soon as somebody ID's the places, we can look at potential tasks in those places.
Those too Coutzy! Then we can put the pieces together! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 02:06:18 AM
Thanks to some googling, I think I can shed some light on alleged herbal shop.

*The oldest Chinese herbal medicine shop in Phuket is on 16 Thalang Road. They specialize in combining western and eastern cures, and are also suppliers to Phuket’s health spas.
http://www.lestariheritage.net/phuket/webpages/tha01.html

Breathe in the heady aromatic aroma of Chinese herbs at Nguan Choon Tong, the city’s oldest herbal shop.
*http://www.tatnews.org/emagazine/3469.asp

I think Nguan Choon Tong may be the name of our herbal shop.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 02:08:21 AM
(http://www.thaiwave.com/benjarong/images/chinese1_1.jpg)

Here's a random googled pic of the Nguan Choon Tong shop for reference.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 02:16:35 AM
Found a viddy as well that has a few shots of the inside of the shop, no definitive look at the outside though.

http://www.youtube.com/v/pFLzNd9cFI0&hl=en&fs=1

Photos of the shop are mixed in with a bunch of other stuff on the same street.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on November 30, 2008, 03:58:11 AM
Alright, here are some of the photos! Coutzy good job! The shop is Nguan Choon Tong (Yuen Chun Tong) read in Cantonese. And guess what was hanging around in the shop? :snicker:

Also attached is a photo of the entire length of Soi Romani, and a random poster I took last night in Bangkok.  ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 04:37:44 AM
Hmmm... if they indeed did go there, I'm sensing a task similar to the herbal tea detour in TAR2 that Mary and Peach seemed to have a heap of trouble with.

It's REALLY caught my interest now and I'm sure Puddin Pie will be proud of you when she wakes up tomorrow!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: manilaguna on November 30, 2008, 04:56:23 AM
is there a possibility that the 2 guys spotted in Sukothai are the father/son team? the girl in the poster looks like Paula from TARA2's Paula/Natasha ^^
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 06:03:09 AM
I don't think so because the guy running away from the photographer looks like hes holding a camera, which would mean he isn't part of a team.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: manilaguna on November 30, 2008, 06:22:48 AM
Coutzy, if you'll look closely it is indeed a team, the other one is hidden but you can see his bag, they are indeed a team
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 06:30:51 AM
ah yes, I see it now.

Do we have a confirmed team in red yet?

The hair of the visible person strikes me as a semi-older woman's (late 30's early 40's) type haircut, but maybe the headband just makes it look like that.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2008, 09:25:39 AM
Neobie!! How wonderful!! Our hero! :<3    :luvu:

Instead of living  it up on the beaches of Phuket, there he is scrounging around in herb shops on our behalf. We owe you Neobie!! But you loved it, right? :lol:

Nice overnight research Coutzy! 

Here is a closer shot of the Sukhothai team, also from the TARI thread...

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14Sukhothaiteam.png)

Here is a very good map of Phuket, so we can follow Neobie along...

http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/phuket_map/phuket_map_town.html

And before I knew Neobie was goig to be our man on the ground and could find all this in person, I had written to the newspaper myself. Here is the answer I just received with one tidbit of new info: (bolds mine)

Quote
I'm afraid we have no other information. The production crew would not
reveal anything.

The reporter followed the couple pictured until they arrived at their
destination, where it seemed as if the other contestants had already
arrived and moved on to their next tasks
.

Regards
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2008, 11:15:59 AM
YES I am very impressed, you all are Amazing detectives!  :jumpy:

Prawit Saenthit is easy to search btw, hes also an actor.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3086758/
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 04:46:48 PM
Nice overnight research Coutzy! 


It wasn't overnight for me, I did that at about 8 PM my time.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2008, 04:52:23 PM
No wonder y'all were so chipper! :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 04:55:46 PM
No wonder y'all were so chipper! :funny:

No, that was because Amazing Race discussion gets me FIRED UP!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on November 30, 2008, 07:26:25 PM
HUZZAH!

The Australian Government is organizing a 'mercy flight' for the Australian's stranded in Thailand.

I pray to The Great Phil In The Sky that my informant can get on this flight and come home with the pictures, safe and sound.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on November 30, 2008, 07:29:27 PM
I pray she is safe. all are safe, with or without the camera  :hugs:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2008, 11:43:09 PM
 :ot:  :ya3:

Y'all are killing me here! :lol: I keep rushing over to see what lovely new TAR 14 spoilers have appeared...

Let's take it back to TAR 14 please?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 01, 2008, 11:43:21 PM
Can we get back on track guys? Stay on topic  please and I mean that in the nicest way...
You can start topics in the discussion thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/board,72.0.html) for off topic things, thanks.

eta: GMTA peach!

eta: page one of this thread "Any nonsense will be deleted such as route wish lists etc or dream teams."
So if you see you posts vanish you'll understand why.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on December 03, 2008, 12:40:33 AM
Alright guys, I'm out of Thailand! *phew* Thanks for everyone's concern!

Called up the Sheraton in Guilin, and they've been nice enough to tell us that production started arriving in dribs and drabs on the 10th, and they all left on the 20th. Remembering Salvador's whiteboard, that means teams would most likely have taken flights out on the 20th as well. How does that fit in?

Also called up the Sheraton and Meridien in Shanghai, but they have no record of WRP Group. Any other ideas we could try, or should we rule Shanghai out?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 03, 2008, 12:59:27 AM
Alright guys, I'm out of Thailand! *phew* Thanks for everyone's concern!

Called up the Sheraton in Guilin, and they've been nice enough to tell us that production started arriving in dribs and drabs on the 10th, and they all left on the 20th. Remembering Salvador's whiteboard, that means teams would most likely have taken flights out on the 20th as well. How does that fit in?

Also called up the Sheraton and Meridien in Shanghai, but they have no record of WRP Group. Any other ideas we could try, or should we rule Shanghai out?
Good stuff Neobie  :jumpy:, Guilin confirmed  :jumpy:!
And on Shanghai, you read what was posted at that forum and really Shanghai could have been a bunch of backpackers running thru the subway or even TARI for all we know so .... just a rumor maybe?

Glad you are safe  :-* :hugs:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 03, 2008, 09:49:14 AM
However, in a city with hundreds of major hotels, knowing that two did not have Amazing Race contestants for the requisite date range is not remotely enough to rule Shanghai out.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 03, 2008, 09:53:11 AM
Neobie, thanks for your extra effort. I have checked my Timeline and it has been saying:

Nov. 18 leg 10 fly from ? to Guilin
Nov. 20 leg 11 Guilin to Beijing flight choices

That appears to be a perfect fit with your data on Nov. 20 checkout from Guilin Sheraton.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on December 03, 2008, 06:55:34 PM
Salzburg product placement (http://benzinsider.com/2008/12/hollywood-stars-drive-mercedes-benz-bluetec-equipped-vehicles/) stuff (last paragraph); at least, I can't remember any BlueTECs for TAR13.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 04, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
Not sure if anyone found this blog entry before me - but here it is. Its hard to figure out exactly which date and I haven't been able to contact this blogger. Looks like some TAR filming was spotted in Tokyo or Singapore around November 10.

http://unde-fined.blogspot.com/2008/11/hellohello-im-back-from-my-trip-yipeee.html (http://unde-fined.blogspot.com/2008/11/hellohello-im-back-from-my-trip-yipeee.html)

This is the blogger's sisters blog: http://citystares.livejournal.com/4655.html (http://citystares.livejournal.com/4655.html) with pics at Tokyo Disneyland around Nov. 11.

Sorry - please delete this one - its already under TAR Israel...

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 04, 2008, 10:47:31 PM
More Interlaken, these Interlaken people are early huh?

CV Ady Ryf/mountainfilms   (http://www.mountainfilms.ch/crew.htm)

Location Manager/pdf (http://www.mountainfilms.ch/images/cvadypdf.pdf)
The Amazing Race CBS/Dschoint Ventschr  (http://www.dschointventschr.ch/dv/stage/home.php?lang=_en)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/mountain_flims.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 05, 2008, 07:21:31 AM
There are limits, imposed by low temperatures in early November in most areas of Switzerland, on what outdoor activities would have been appropriate for AR14, episode 2 Nov. 2 and the start of episode 3 Nov. 3. With the special equipment and clothing required for cold-weather sports I don't believe they would have done much of that. It was too late in the year for most warm-weather sports.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: mungobuh on December 09, 2008, 09:08:03 AM
Would anyone here have any information as to whether or not TAR14 was filmed in HD?  It's probably a long shot, given that HD equipment is probably too difficult to handle while running after teams and such...but a man can hope, right?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Seycheller on December 09, 2008, 04:28:09 PM
Pssst.... the answer to the mystery location is in the Seychelles.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: apskip on December 09, 2008, 04:52:22 PM
Seycheller, we would love to believe you. However, you need to provide concrete evidence, preferrably photos but we will settle for eyewitness reports if photos were not taken, including dates of any AR14 visit to the Seychelles. Since Madagascar and Mauritius have been Amazing Race sites, there is no reason the Seychelles could not be. I'm from Missouri. Show me.

You should know that the race according to reports was heading for Russia from Romania.  Also, there may be only one leg between Russia and Phuket. To go from anywhere in Russia to Seychelles to get to Phuket is not exactly probable. The other possibility is going from Phuket to Guilin. Taking a huge detour via the Seychelles is so unlikely it is not worth talking about. However, I hope you have the answers for us.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on December 09, 2008, 05:02:50 PM
I think they decided against HD because they didn't need it. People love the show the way it is and filming it in HD isn't going to attract any more viewers.

I read that somewhere, but I can't remember where.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2008, 05:03:28 PM
Pssst.... the answer to the mystery location is in the Seychelles.

Welcome seycheller! :welcome: Thanks so much for coming!

I would lovelovelove if the Seychelles were on our race...one of the most beautiful places in the world!!

What can you share with us? We thrive on info here, so names, dates, places, and pictures would be awesome!

Can't wait to hear more from you! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: Seycheller on December 09, 2008, 05:16:57 PM
Oh, sorry guys. I only suggested that because I had heard that they were scouting it as a possible race location in the past. Figured that it might be plausible here since it works with the "heading East with two legs to fill in thing", not to mention that it is a beautiful country this time of year.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 09, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
Peach and I heard budgetary concerns are the most likely reasons for not going HD. If they do another season, perhaps it would be doable.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations and Spoiler Summary
Post by: apskip on December 09, 2008, 05:40:59 PM
Seycheller. I hope you get your wish in a 2009 Amazing Race even if you don't here. What is new is puddin's reminder of rumors that AR14 was headed to Russia from Romania. Those are a least a little credible and if true Seychelles will not be visited in AR14.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on December 09, 2008, 06:13:13 PM
So coutzy, any word on the pictures from your moms friend?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on December 09, 2008, 08:06:57 PM
Not yet. Hopefully I'll be seeing her Saturday at a function for the tennis club.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on December 09, 2008, 08:10:00 PM
Not yet. Hopefully I'll be seeing her Saturday at a function for the tennis club.

ohhhh
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 09, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
 :cmas9 Cant wait to see them coutzy
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: pashy on December 14, 2008, 10:04:15 AM
Hi everyone!
I'm building a fan site for TAR israel.
If anyone has any more pics or interesting gossip , I'd appreciate it...
http://www.amazingrace.co.il (http://www.amazingrace.co.il)
TXS!  :cmas26
Merry Xmas


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: north09 on December 14, 2008, 10:29:40 AM
 :welcome: pashy! You may wanna post that in the TAR Israel section  :cmas16
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 14, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
:welcome2: to RFF pashy!

We have a TAR Israel thread here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17852.0.html

As long as you fully credit us for any info you use, AND provide a link back to us, we are pretty happy to share!

Good luck! :waves:

Heee...kogs? You have to translate for us!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on December 15, 2008, 01:03:56 AM
Mum's friend said that she'll send em to us.

Unfortunately, she also said that a month ago, so now I'm growing less and less excited about the photos.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 15, 2008, 01:14:21 AM
Mum's friend said that she'll send em to us.

Unfortunately, she also said that a month ago, so now I'm growing less and less excited about the photos.
I'm excited! I can't wait to see them Coutzy!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: pashy on December 15, 2008, 02:41:02 AM
:welcome2: to RFF pashy!

We have a TAR Israel thread here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17852.0.html

As long as you fully credit us for any info you use, AND provide a link back to us, we are pretty happy to share!

Good luck! :waves:

Heee...kogs? You have to translate for us!


Sure Thing!
I'll try to post here once in a while when the show starts in a few weeks.  :cmas16
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 15, 2008, 03:43:16 AM
Your site looks great, wish I could read it better!

Let us know of any new developments if you would, we'd love to keep up!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 15, 2008, 01:41:45 PM
The show starts in a few weeks. Then why dont you know all of the teams??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 15, 2008, 01:44:16 PM
They must not have had the cast release yet, kiwi, just like us.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 15, 2008, 02:09:38 PM
oh. But ours is like 1 month before not a week before lol!!

Must be my American Version mind thinking. Speaking of that! Spoilers seem to have dimmed down havent they!  :cmas4
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on December 15, 2008, 02:19:53 PM
oh. But ours is like 1 month before not a week before lol!!

Must be my American Version mind thinking. Speaking of that! Spoilers seem to have dimmed down havent they!  :cmas4

 :cmas4
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 15, 2008, 02:29:35 PM
those spotters must be hiding this season aye!  :cmas12
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 15, 2008, 06:46:33 PM
Don't worry, CBS will officially release the list sometime after the New Year. Be patient, Young Jedis.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on December 15, 2008, 06:47:27 PM
I'm looking on the bright side though because this way I don't have to know who will be eliminated every leg like last season!

But it is going to be a dull two months if nobody finds any new info!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 15, 2008, 07:14:55 PM
thats what I mean  :cmaslol  :cmas4
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 16, 2008, 09:22:31 AM
I have focused my AR14 thinking on where it is logical for teams if they go to Russia for leg 5 to travel to for leg 6. Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran are all out for obvious reasons. Israel and Pakistan are out because the risk is too high. I think the capitals between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea are possibilities:

Tblisi, Georgia
Yerevan, Armenia
Baku, Azerbaijan

Next would be major cities in the "stans":
Ashkabad, Turkenistan
Samarkand, Uzbekistan
Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Astana, Kazakhstan
Dushanbe, Tajikistan

The Gulf States (Oman, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain) have an outside chance, but they(particualrly Dubai) have been used a lot in recent Amazing Races.

Of that above list, I like Samarkand and Tashkent the best. They have functioned as crossroads for millenia.

What do you think?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 16, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
My next attention has been to the leg between Phuket and Guilin. There was a whisper about Shanghai for this and that is quite possible. I would normally expect that the place between Phuket and Guilin will be geographically in between. What major cities meet those criteria?

Starting in Thailand, although Bangkok has been used extensively by Amazing Race Asia, it has not been overused in my judgement by Amazing Races. Chiang Mai is also used but not overused.  In Vietnam, there has been use of Hanoi and Saigon, so I do not think we will see them in AR14. Phnom Penh, Cambodia and Vientiane, Laos are top prospects due to never have been in an Amazing Race; they are overdue. Kathmandu has an outside chance. In southern China, Guangzhou, Kunming, Chengdu and Chongqing are all possiblities.

Looking at the major prospects, I like Vientiane or Phnom Penh the best.

What do you think?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 16, 2008, 10:49:34 AM
Both Georgia and Uzbekistan remain on the  State Dept warning list, so I would think those might be unlikely.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html

Also, we still have an unidentified racer photo from Sukhothai, Thailand on 11/18.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17852.msg361956.html#msg361956

While it is NOT clear what race this belongs to (TAR 14 {dates may fit nicely}, TAR Israel {dates cannot be excluded}, or Pekin Express {in Thailand on 11/22}), we can't entirely rule this out yet for TAR 14, I don't think.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: woden on December 16, 2008, 12:58:53 PM
To clarify, in the US version, Dubai hasn't been used since TAR5, not including connections. Bahrain & Abu Dhabi haven't been visited at all. Another Middle East possibility is Qatar.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 16, 2008, 01:26:50 PM
Dubai was used in TARA 1 though....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: woden on December 16, 2008, 01:28:40 PM
Edited above. :tup:


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: north09 on December 16, 2008, 01:43:58 PM
Dubai was also used in TAR10. How can we forget the demise of Peter/Sarah there?!

I think we can eliminate Kazakhstan from the list. While I did enjoy their vist there, I wouldn't think they would want to re-use a "new country" so quickly. Since they like to feature places that are less known to the modern world, Tajikistan and Turkenistan would be at the top of my list.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: goodyingbadyang on December 16, 2008, 01:56:48 PM
Dubai was also used in TAR10. How can we forget the demise of Peter/Sarah there?!

You're confusing Dubai with Kuwait
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 16, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
Sukhothai is within several hours of Chiang Mai and there is a closer(under one hour) airport at Phitsanulok. If the former it could be conceptualized as part of a Chiang Mai visit(which was on my list). If the latter, it would be an independent place and not on my list. Given the photos Peach has provided (thanks, Peach), which were attributed by its authors to ARA4 (which doesn't exist yet according to my understanding), it is hard to say precisely which of 3 races was visiting. From a strictly mathematical viewpoint, all could get there at the right time so I am going to say that there is about a 1/3 probabiliity that those racers are on AR14.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 16, 2008, 02:43:16 PM
Both Georgia and Uzbekistan remain on the  State Dept warning list, so I would think those might be unlikely.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html

Peach, you are correct that both Georgia and Uzbekistan are on the State Ddepartment warning list. However, a few things emerge from the pages on those countries. In Georgia, the major risks are South Ossetia and Abkhazia and areas adjacent to them. That leaves a lot of territory. In Uzbekistan, the State Department admits that there has been no violence since 2005. They could have been used, but since there are safer equivalent places AR14 could go, I agree with your assessment that those countries were not used.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Alvin06 on December 17, 2008, 04:39:23 AM
Just a speculation here: Is it possible that before going to China, teams go to an Oceanian country, say Australia or even Papua New Guinea before going to Guillin, China?

Another question, as for the country before Thailand, is it possible to have a northeast African country like Egypt (since geographically, it's quite near Romania and perhaps other intermediate countries in between?)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 17, 2008, 08:09:50 AM
Just a speculation here: Is it possible that before going to China, teams go to an Oceanian country, say Australia or even Papua New Guinea before going to Guillin, China?

Another question, as for the country before Thailand, is it possible to have a northeast African country like Egypt (since geographically, it's quite near Romania and perhaps other intermediate countries in between?)
Alvin06, I will do my best to give you my takes on your questions:

Yes, it is possible that AR14 went to Oceania(Australia or Papua New Guinea) between Phuket and Guilin. However, it is maybe 4000 miles to either one so the probabilty of doing so is miniscule, far less than 1% in my opinion. They are not worth thinking about. If TAR14 was headed from Phuket for Australia or New Zealand before jumping off to Hawaii, it would be different.  But a known route from Beijing to Hawaii negates that possibility.

Egypt is a possibility. It along with many other places not on my list for the place after Russia and before Phuket has a combined probability of about 50%. I believe those on my list above have a combined proability of about 50%. However, the straight line for the route from southern Russia to Phuket does not come within thousands of miles of anywhere in Eqypt, so again I have to rate its probability at below 1%.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: selkie on December 17, 2008, 10:28:26 AM
I'd say Georgia was low probability because the conflict in the region is so recent, and even though the peace agreements seem to be holding right now, there's still risk of something nasty spilling over into Tblisi. Egypt seems to be quietly sliding toward something nasty. There have been a couple other reality shows that have filmed there in the last two years (Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations, Ewan MacGregor's Long Way Down) and Tony's talked about having to sneak cameras around because the government didn't want him filming pretty much anywhere outside pre-selected tourist areas, and the Long Way Down crew had to be part of an Army caravan from Cairo down to the Sudan border because of banditry concerns on Egyptian roadways.

I'd bet Papua New Guinea is off the list because of safety concerns and because it would cost a lot of money to get insurance to go there.

Uzbekistan might be a possibility. It's a new place, relatively safe since the unrest of 2005, and seems open to 'cultural exchanges' with Noth American and EU countries.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on December 18, 2008, 09:32:12 AM
I also feel Georgia, USA is not a site for this year's race simply due to the fact the producers do not know any other section of the country besides Los Angeles. :P
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on December 18, 2008, 10:11:03 PM
I also feel Georgia, USA is not a site for this year's race simply due to the fact the producers do not know any other section of the country besides Los Angeles. :P

My second biggest pet peeve about the new "condensed" seasons, the first being the "condensed" part. :cmas7
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 19, 2008, 05:33:56 PM
I'm thinking that the leg between the Phuket, Thailand and Guilin, China they could've stayed in Thailand like they did on TAR1 (Bangkok/Krabi-Phuket) and TAR2 (Bangkok-Chiang Mai) or have gone to another country in Southeast Asia. There are many locations that the American Amazing Race has not been like Kuching and Penang, Malaysia; Laos; Medan, Indonesia (on the island of Sumatra); and Brunei.  Besides, there is no chance that they could go to Australia or any other part of Oceania since it would take two days to get there from Phuket even with airport connections in Bangkok and Singapore.   
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on December 22, 2008, 05:42:20 AM
Went to interrogate the Sheraton receptionists today. The two at the desk didn't seem to know much about TAR filming - they said they weren't in charge of this group! Just one learning point: typing in "WRP Group" into their system does not bring up any results. Bertram didn't use that name to book, which really means Shanghai is still 100% out in the open?

Will try the other locations tomorrow. I have 24 hours to dig out as much as I can!

Your roving correspondent Neobie, reporting from Guilin, China.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on December 22, 2008, 01:47:12 PM
go neobie!

you really are going the extra mile hunting for clues :cmas17
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: MilkBB on December 23, 2008, 04:07:50 AM
Molova or Bulgaria after romania leg
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: hakushu8 on December 23, 2008, 07:15:37 AM
Just bringing this over from Sucks:

Start with Post 224: credit to Nickasingh (http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/41155?page=12)

Kinda weird that a month AFTER filming, the flag is still there. But it's at Bangkok, compared to Phuket were the sightings were held. Thoughts?

For mine:
1. I don't think it's any other race other than TAR14.
2. Red herring. Or not related to TAR at all.
3. Flag that was completely forgotten. Uh oh.


Title: Quick Question
Post by: scuzneck on December 23, 2008, 08:57:15 AM
How do you guys and gals find your information? I have always been fascinated by the extreme amount of data that is placed on the site. I want to help, but have no earthly idea how to even begin.

Keep up the grand work!!

Happy Holidays to all!!!

Brian
Title: Re: Quick Question
Post by: apskip on December 23, 2008, 10:22:10 AM
scuzneck,
There may be many specific answers to your question, but a general answer is "elbow grease", hard work and perseverance plus the cultivation over time of sources all over the world.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: marigold on December 23, 2008, 11:06:55 AM


Though I am in no position to answer your question I believe there has to be a genuine interest, so you are headed in the right direction.

Specializing or focusing on a certain element (sort of a piece of the puzzle) that alone takes hard core discipline it’s not easy or pretty I would bet there are days they are banging their heads on the wall or wanting to toss their computer across the room. Did that scare you?

I personally think to manage and master it all like puddin is something NO ONE can reach lol I tell her all the time she blows my mind. 

It’s certainly impressive isn’t it.

Good Luck :cmas16
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 23, 2008, 04:45:26 PM
^^ No No its a combination of team effort, everyone contributes in different ways, no one person is above or better....everyone brings different thinge to the table then we sort it out, yeah like a puzzle, lol.
Really I just try to keep the threads organized and that is due to me OCD, can't stand clutter :crazy
How do you guys and gals find your information? I have always been fascinated by the extreme amount of data that is placed on the site. I want to help, but have no earthly idea how to even begin.

Keep up the grand work!!

Happy Holidays to all!!!

Brian
Thanks for the kind words Brian, our detectives are the best of the best  :yess: :jam:
How can you help? search and seach and search and hope you hit the right blog, right picture, right combination something something :lol: .
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 23, 2008, 05:01:55 PM
Just bringing this over from Sucks:

Start with Post 224: credit to Nickasingh (http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/41155?page=12)

Kinda weird that a month AFTER filming, the flag is still there. But it's at Bangkok, compared to Phuket were the sightings were held. Thoughts?

For mine:
1. I don't think it's any other race other than TAR14.
2. Red herring. Or not related to TAR at all.
3. Flag that was completely forgotten. Uh oh.



I don't know what to make of it either hakushu but thanks for bringing it over. If I were Nickasingh I probably would have swiped it :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on December 27, 2008, 11:15:40 PM
Hope everyone's enjoying their holidays! :cmas9

Went back to the Sheraton on another shift and managed to meet the receptionist manager; He told me that production kept very much to themselves, referring to everything they did as a "commercial secret". He did talk to one of the locals in charge though, and although he (the guy in charge) was a Beijinger, he did work for a travel consultancy based in Shanghai. Does this mean anything?

The Sun & Moon Towers are on Shan Lake, and although the ticket counter people told me there wasn't any filming at the towers last month, they pointed me across the lake to Zhiyin Tai (loosely translatable as Soulmate Pier). It's just a pretty stone platform jutting out into the lake, where boats leave to cruise the lakes and rivers of Guilin.

There was a ticket counter there for boat cruises, and the guy there (in a very suspicious manner) told me he didn't know anything, and that he worked on alternate days, so maybe he missed whatever was going on. Refused to admit to anything regarding filming, unlike the other people I asked. Checked back the next day and there he was in the booth. Not a really good liar, eh?

A lady there with a photo shop told me she remembers a huge crowd of people rushing onto the platform from the street (Binjiang Lu, or Waterside Rd), did a little bit of filming, and rushed off again. She said she didn't see any activity with regards to the boats. She thinks it was in the early afternoon.

Also met this bunch of really lovely cleaning ladies, who told me they heard of filming being done in the morning. (They told me they were working in the afternoon shift, and therefore didn't see the racers.) Was in the morning though when I met them, so maybe they changed their working schedule?

But they gave me another lead, that not only was filming done at Zhiyin Pier, but also across town at the Old South Gate!

Coming back soon with a little bit more, on the Old South Gate (not much info from there really), the dates and times, and of course the perfect spot for a Pit Stop!

PS: Puddin, any way I could add the photos I took to your photo albums? Don't want to overload this page...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 27, 2008, 11:30:49 PM
Oh Neobie!! Great job!! Guilin sounds wonderful!!

And how "amazing" that you are tracking our guys...wanna go to Hawaii next??!! :lol:

And the happiest of holidays to you too...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 27, 2008, 11:40:51 PM
Send the photos to me or peach Neobie, something tells me shes a step ahead but really I am more than happy too host them or just attach them here and I'll host them later.
Great detective work Neobie  :jumpy:  :jumpy:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 27, 2008, 11:43:30 PM
South City Gate:

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pictured here, a remnant of the old walled city of Guilin, the south gate entrance to the city...! This old gate, now restored to pristine condition, was built all the way back in the Tang Dynasty! It sits right next to Rong Hu and there is a long tunnel hidden behind the gate itself which you can actually walk through to get an idea of what it was like to enter the city in ancient times...!


(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14GuilinSouthCitygate.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 28, 2008, 11:42:44 AM
Thanks to Neobie for translating, from the China Forum  (http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=515990920)(thanks to TARA who brought us the Guilin sighting (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg361742.html#msg361742)). The thing is they are saying that the poster is lying, cheating so we shall see but here it is fwiw.
And no, whatever picture was posted I don't see either :P

Quote
Only the top post of importance:
 
在地铁一号线转二号线八号线的转换大厅里看到Phil和一群外国人...
但是没看到选手...
估计是在录制Phil讲述任务的片段吧
人上人下的可惜没几个人在关注Phil....
自己留心拍了照片!
 
"Saw Phil and a bunch of foreigners in the interchange hall between Lines 1 and 2/8...
No contestants though.
I think Phil was probably explaining a task.
People were coming and going, but no one was paying attention to Phil..."
 
Can't interpret the last line - something about taking a photo? But I don't see any photo there, do you?
 
Oh, the interchange station is Renmin/People's Square.

 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on December 28, 2008, 10:38:51 PM
My dream-lists since TAR9 have always included a Guilin-Guangzhou combination; Shanghai does seem a little repetitive, and out of the way! (But you know, 100% speculation...)

Got corroboration from various people that the Guilin leg took place on the 17th of November. Here are the various clues from the locals that help confirm the fact:
1. It was a Monday.
2. Production started serious work two days before, and on the third day (presumably the day the racers came by) it was drizzling.

With Phuket being filmed at least until the afternoon of the 15th, that would mean Phuket and Guilin are consecutive legs! Will discuss more in the timetables thread...

Nothing much to report at the South Gate, but just enough to confirm that teams were there. A girl in the Tourist Office (20m west of the gate) remembers seeing a team run past with a camera crew, eastwards towards the gate. A pair of tour guides told me they heard of filming on both sides of the twin bridges, just in front of the gates. Nobody at the gate, though, could tell me anything. There's a tea shop on top, but the manager there told me if there was any filming at or outside their shop, they would have been contacted. (Lie detector did not go off, I kind of believe her.)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: gingerman28 on December 30, 2008, 04:48:49 PM
According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing

That can account for two missing locations.  Central Siberia could mean a visit to either Novosibirsk or Irkutsk or Ulan-Ude or perhaps Krasnoyarsk And these three cities are connected to Beijing by  a major rail link.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2008, 05:41:18 PM
According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing

That can account for two missing locations.  Central Siberia could mean a visit to either Novosibirsk or Irkutsk or Ulan-Ude or perhaps Krasnoyarsk And these three cities are connected to Beijing by  a major rail link.
Damn my tvguide wasn't there today but thanks for the info Gman  :jumpy: "Central Siberia" !!!!!!!!!!!
Anything else Gman?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: marigold on December 30, 2008, 05:48:22 PM
:)

From Variety

Season Pass Q&A:  Coming Attractions

"Amazing Race" creators Bert Van Munster and Elise Doganieri

Link: http://weblogs.variety.com/season_pass/2008/12/the-biggest-los.html (http://weblogs.variety.com/season_pass/2008/12/the-biggest-los.html)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on December 30, 2008, 08:17:30 PM
With the Beijing to Honolulu sighting, would that mean Phuket-Guilin-Beijing-Hawaii, with Central Siberia coming before all of this? Would this also be the "Russia" that's supposed to come after Romania (edited, can't keep my E Europe countries straight)?

Beijing again, huh? (This makes Shanghai unlikely...)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 30, 2008, 08:33:24 PM
If Hawai is Leg 11 (most probably) than:

Leg 1: L.A to Switzerland
Leg 2: Possibly Switzerland
Leg 3: Austria
Leg 4: Romania
Leg 5: -- (Unkown most probably Bulgaria or something)
Leg 6: --
Leg 7: Russia
Leg 8: Thailand
Leg 9: Guilin
Leg 10: Beijing
Leg 11: Hawaii

We are close if this all right!! :cmas26 PURE SPEC. Derived from the info we have
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 30, 2008, 08:52:36 PM
With the Beijing to Honolulu sighting, would that mean Phuket-Guilin-Beijing-Hawaii, with Central Siberia coming before all of this? Would this also be the "Russia" that's supposed to come after Romania (edited, can't keep my E Europe countries straight)?

Beijing again, huh? (This makes Shanghai unlikely...)
Yes Neobie! Siberia after Romania unless of course they went somewhere Russia before Siberia. And as mentioned in the other threads, longer legs in 1 place which if course means less flying ( rah rah Gman  :lol: )

eta: I was just watching Bizarre Foods today in Beijing and had turned it off when Andrew started eating Donkey skin/ noodles :eww
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on December 31, 2008, 12:38:37 AM
:jumpy:

:lol: Does this mean the tips (and tips and tips again...) for the Olympic Stadium in Beijing could FINALLY be coming true?? :lol:  I was ready to give up!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: gingerman28 on December 31, 2008, 10:01:53 AM
According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing

That can account for two missing locations.  Central Siberia could mean a visit to either Novosibirsk or Irkutsk or Ulan-Ude or perhaps Krasnoyarsk And these three cities are connected to Beijing by  a major rail link.
Damn my tvguide wasn't there today but thanks for the info Gman  :jumpy: "Central Siberia" !!!!!!!!!!!
Anything else Gman?

Not much more to say; one place I haven't been (missed an opportunity to spend time in a Siberian Gulag coutesty of Uncle Joe).  But could be reached after Romania with flight through Moscow (again) to one of the central Siberian cities mentioned above.  Flight then could go down to Thailand. (What is it about TAR? They go through a place and civil unrest erupts after they leave?)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 31, 2008, 01:59:56 PM
According to an interview with BVM in TV Guide (for week of January 5) teams will be visiting fewer airports (rah rah) and will suffer through a blizzard in Central Siberia and will have "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing

That can account for two missing locations.  Central Siberia could mean a visit to either Novosibirsk or Irkutsk or Ulan-Ude or perhaps Krasnoyarsk And these three cities are connected to Beijing by  a major rail link.

GMAN, this is great news, but I do not think it means what you think. A Russian location in Siberia(Nov. 10 or 11 or maybe one leg later) is a real plus for AR14. However, there is not going to be any rail trip to Beijing. Teams still have to get to one or two places before PHUKET on Nov. 16 and they are not going to be east of Phuket; they should be northwest of Phuket. Beijing is known to be Nov. 20/21. See my TIMELINE if you don't believe me. I am going to copy it below to update the Siberia information into it.

I should point out that bragging rights don't appear to mean much to Bertram van Munster or Elise Doganieri. I think they would delight in providing false information which causes RFF and others to go off the deep end. So, I do not consider it being announced in TV Guide to be definitive. van Munter has constantly put inadvertent wrong information into his public statements so what would be the problem with going one step farther?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on December 31, 2008, 02:05:35 PM
GMAN, this is just for you. All others must visit the Timetables and Flight Information thread ot get this information.

AR14 Timeline(revised 12/31):

Oct. 31 leg 1 depart U.S. for Locarno, Switzerland via Frankfurt and Zurich or via Milan:
The only applicable flight in the right time frame from the U.S. is UA990 SFO FRA 1348 0830

A different route goes LAX to Milan-Malpensa(MXP) as follows: TN022 1145 0845+1 connecting with AF1214 0945+1 1145+1

Here are the bus schedules in the same time frame:
Shuttle bus leaves airport  Arrival in Bellinzona at  Connecting train leaves  Arrival in Locarno 
12:30                                           14:20                              14:39                        14:58 
14:30                                           16:20                              16:39                        16:58 

From LAX to Milan-Linate a similar schedule applies:
TN (Air Tahiti Nui) 022  LAX CDG  1145 0845+1, conecting with  XM5997  CDG LIN 0935+1 1110+1

From LAX to Zurich via Frankfurt we have the interesting combination:
LH457  LAX FRA  1435 1025+1 connecting with LH3726   FRA ZRH  1200 1255

What I find most interesting is the fit LH457/LH3726 has with the observer comments about seeing 7 teams in Frankfurt Airport the morning of Saturday Nov. 1. I expect no other reason to go to Frankfurt except to connect to Zurich. There are 10 nonstop flights on Saturday between Frankfurt and Zurich, so if any are delayed there are alternatives.

The train schedule from Zurich to Bellinzona to Locarno indicates that 3 1/4 hours is required. Here is is:

Train leaves airport Change in  Connecting train leaves  Arrival in Locarno 
11:47  Zurich HB (main station)             12:09     
                                Arth-Goldau           12:52     
                                 Bellinzona             14:40                         15:06 
12:47  Zurich HB (main station)             13:09     
                                 Bellinzona             15:40                         16:06 
13:47  Zurich HB (main station)             14:09     
                              Arth-Goldau             14:52     
                                 Bellinzona             16:40                         17:07 
16:47   Zurich HB(main station)             17:09
                              Bellinzona                19:40                         19:06


It is my belief that AR14 teams used a minimum of 2 flight combinations to get to Locarno. One may be to Milan, another to Zurich directly, and a third to Zurich via Frankfurt.

Nov. 1 arrive mid-morning in Europe and reach Locarno sometime in the afternoon; then tasks; this might be a TBC to allow known timing of next leg, but probably isn't
Nov. 2 leg 2 Locarno to Domodossola to Spiez to Interlaken by train; then tasks in Interlaken
dep. Locarno 1047 arr. Domodossola 1235
dep. Domodossola 1248 arr. Spiez 1353
dep. Spiez 1425 arr. Interlaken West 1454 or dep. Spiez 1432 arr. Interlaken West 1451
total trip is 4 hours train

Nov. 3 leg 3 Interlaken probably by rail to Zurich, then plane to Salzburg; arrival possibilities mid-morning, mid-afternoon, and late evening
From Interlaken to Salzburg, the early morning Tuesday(as in Nov.4) train schedules are:

dep. Interlaken West 0605 transfer trains in Spiez, Romanschorn, 7 min. walk to ship, ship to Frederichshafen ship terminal, 5 min. walk to Hafen station, 2 min. train to Frederichshafen station, Ulm, then arr. Salzburg 1454 after a 8 hour 53 minute trip OR
dep. Interlaken West 0731 transfer trains in Spiez, Bern, Zurich arr. Salzburg 1529 after a 8 hour 0 minute trip

Based on the above, it seems more likely that teams flew to Salzburg on Nov. 4. In order to do that the optimal route is to take a train from Interlaken to Bern(somtimes changing first in Spiez) and then change for Bern to Zurich. The trains that fit are:

First train is dep. Interlaken West 522 transfer at Bern, arr. Zurich HB 0728, transfer there to Zurich Airport dep. HB 0746 arr. Airport 0747,  a difficult 23 minute connection to make the first flight below from Zurich airport
Next is dep. Interlaken West 1031 transfer at Bern, arr. Zurich HB 1228 dep.HB 1237 arr. Airport 1246 .
Last is dep. Interlaken West 1729 transfer at Spiez and Bern, arr. Zurich HB 1928, dep. HB 1937 arr. Airport 1946.

At Zurich there are  several nonstop flights to Salzburg, each with a connection from one of the train trips above:

C91202/LX4290  0810 0915  ZRH SGZ
C91204/Lx4292  1335 1440  ZRH SGZ
C91208/LX4294  2040 2145  ZRH SGZ

Nov. 4 tasks in Salzburg
Nov. 5 leg 4 depart Salzburg for Bucharest, with several late-night flight options:
through Munich drive back form Salzburg early evening, then LH3424 2130 0025 MUC OTP
through Frankfurt OS269 1830 1950 SGZ FRA connecting to LH3416 2030 0005 FRA OTP
Nov. 6 arrival in Bucharest after midnight; transfer to train to get to Brasov
morning train departures: Bucharest Nord 2358 arr. Brasov 0246  or  dep. 0630 0922  or  dep. 0730 1019  or  dep. 0616 1051(note: nobody would want this) or  0830 1124  or  0942 1254  or  1130 1404
Nov. 7 tasks in Brasov
Nov. 8 leg 5 leave Transylvania for unknown location #1(could be Siberia)
Nov. 10 leg 6 unknown location #2(could be Siberia)
Nov. 12 leg 7 unknown location #3
Nov. 14 leg 8 leave unknown location #3 to arrive Bangkok the next morning
Nov. 15 fly Bangkok to Phuket apparently on TG203 0740 0850, then tasks in Phuket area
Nov. 16 leg 9 fly from Phuket to ?
Nov. 18 leg 10 fly from ? to Guilin
Nov. 20 leg 11 Guilin to Beijing flight choices:
CZ3281 0900 1125
CA6312 1145 1435
CZ3287 1710 1950
CA1226 2105 0015

then tasks in Beijing and start pitstop

Nov. 22 leg 12 return from Beijing to U.S. for Finish Line in Hawaii via Tokyo
PEK NRT on Air China has several choices:
CA6651/NH956 0845 1305
CA925               0930 1350
CA167               1350 1750

Continuing on from Tokyo-Narita to Honolulu (NRT to HNL), there are 9 choices with departures between 645pm and 10pm. With the 6 hours 45 minute flying team and 5 hour time difference, these flights arrive HNL 0630 to 0950. The most logical choice to me would be UA880 NRT HNL 1925 0710+1. All these are same day due to crossing the International Date Line.

                        Finish Line on which Hawaiian island not known yet although I guess Oahu now for convenience

Note: this is a 23 day race.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 31, 2008, 03:53:06 PM
Leg 12? sorry am I being an idiot. This is a 11 leg race :umn:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on December 31, 2008, 08:32:05 PM
Heres the tv guide quip ..

Phil infront of a Jet? Engine. Maybe Los Alamitos Airfield isn't too far off the mark?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff-0000.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff-0001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: SingularStars on January 01, 2009, 02:11:06 AM
whoa, so this season might only visit europe and asia!? no other continents besides that.. is that a first?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 01, 2009, 08:22:30 AM
Leg 12? sorry am I being an idiot. This is a 11 leg race :umn:

Kiwi Jay.

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. I don't think it's obvious either way but I chose to present it as 12 legs because that makes the most sense given the timing between Romania and Phuket(which I believe was referenced earlier).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: north09 on January 01, 2009, 01:43:37 PM
I belive they have done it beore. The majority of the rest of the wold when it comes to excting places, is made up of Europe and Asia
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 01, 2009, 02:31:36 PM
Jet indicates we were right about the Los Amatos Airport. But could always be wrong still! And Central Siberia also indicates another Leg we can put onto our Leg list.

I thought puddin pointed out it was 11 legs!  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 01, 2009, 09:22:13 PM
From the CBS message boards  (http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/25532.page), does this work with our Guilin info? plus short men  :yess:

Quote
12/17/2008 19:23:36     
Subject: Re:DONT SHOOT ME -TAR 14 has started filming   
TARinChina
CBS Community Member
 
Joined: 12/17/2008

 We were in the Guangzhou China airport November 17th around 11pm and saw a team of two caucasian men wearing backpacks running through the airport with a cameraman and producer in tow. They were in the baggage claim area and were in a hurry to find something and stopped at hte information desk to ask directions. The cameraman was working to capture every move. The men were both short and appeared to be related. One had a fanny pack that was visible with red/yellow/back horizontal stripes on it. We went up to them and said "Are you with the Amazing Race?". They said "No", but we are waiting for cast pictures to see if they were telling the truth or not. 

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: theschnauzers on January 01, 2009, 09:54:59 PM
Hi, gang!

I've been following your work for TAR 14 (as I have for other seasons  :lol: )
and I've noticed the discussion on the timing of the middle legs.  I think the mention of the Race encountering a blizzard in central Siberia may offer a clue.

As far as I can recall, there has only been one confirmed weather delay in the history of TAR -- the sandstorm which delayed the Race in Tunisia for 24 hours in TAR 1. I can't imagine that the Race expected a blizzard just at the time the Racers got there, so I think a weather delay took place.

Travel is impossible in a blizzard, and you do not want to be stuck in open areas while one is taking place (heavy and blowing snow, along with high winds.) I'm not sure which cities would be considered "central Siberia," but knowing that we're looking for one or more cities in that area during that range of dates in mid- to late-November where such conditions were reported is something I suspect can be located at Weather Undergrond.

Just thought I would throw that in there and see if y'all can make anything of it.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2009, 10:17:42 PM
Great idea, thanks!!

Oh weather guys....    :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 01, 2009, 11:34:12 PM
Do we believe BVM? Remember the so called Monsoon in India, TAR12, which never happened?  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: gingerman28 on January 02, 2009, 11:41:18 AM
Do we believe BVM? Remember the so called Monsoon in India, TAR12, which never happened?  :lol:

Do you doubt the word of our lord and master?  Heck, I've bought a couple of shares in one of the bridges he owns
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 02, 2009, 03:35:05 PM
You know, about that first episode opening with a death defying challenge?

We all know that the episode will open with team intros and a flight. If they are leaving from the military base, a parachute jump could be possible...

But if this is really BVM speak for the first leg in Switzerland, then I think, thanks to cba, that we already may have our challenge:


venzin77 RE: Is the Amazing Race in Locarno, Ticino?
Today, 3:52 PM EST

Yes the amazing race is in Switzerland y help one couple, y make police man job.

Mornig in Locarno, train Station, y help the couple Dustin & Kandice to go in Verzasca Valley. You see the the show and you see my ..... :)


Wiki/Wetpaint (http://amazingrace.wetpaint.com/thread/2031565/Is+the+Amazing+Race+in+Locarno,+Ticino%3F?t=anon)  


People, when I joined last week pointing out it's been a while since they've been to Switzerland I was just joking!  :lol:

This post above caught my eye - I've been to Verzasca valley myself on an excursion during my time as geology student at the Swiss federal institute of technology in Zurich.

There's Lago di Vogrono, a reservoir lake and the dam bordering its end, Dam Verzasca was featured in a James Bond Movie ("Goldeneye"). 007 does a bungy-jump from that dam, which is a very popular thing to do among tourists! There's not really anything else thrilling going on in that valley (except for geology of course  ;) ) so I'll pick up that spoiler/speculation and, if correct, guess we'll see some bungee jumping as a task or a maybe even a roadblock?



Bungy Jumping like OO7:

http://www.trekking.ch/eng/007.asp




Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 02, 2009, 11:59:11 PM
November 17th in the evening (for Guangzhou) doesn't jive with my sources, though! Aren't they in Guilin?

Unless they're really, really, really late....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: zacz on January 03, 2009, 09:11:11 AM
Having two groups of teams separated (like what happened in TAR1 where Rob and Brennan and Frank and Margarita were 24 hours ahead of Bill and Joe and Drew and Kevin) is not impossible, but extremely unlikely unless only some of the teams got stuck in the blizzard. I think TPTB would try to bunch up the teams if they got too far apart, like the did in TAR All Stars when Mirna and Sharla got the large lead.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 03, 2009, 03:49:30 PM
I believe you can take a hydrofoil from Guanzhou to Guilin, but it is most likely scheduled for during the day, not in the middle of the night, because they are mainly for tourists. As a result, I haven't found any schedules.

It is possible to fly Guangzhou to Guilin at that late hour. China Southern CZ3234 flies 2305 2355.

Other nonstop flights are all in the afternoon or evening, nothing is in the morning.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 03, 2009, 04:54:53 PM
I found a hydrofoil Guangzhou to Hong Kong w/ no trouble, but nothing to Guilin.

Wikitravel says
Quote
By boat
You can get to Guilin by cargo boat from Guangzhou via Wuzhou, but there are no passenger boats to Guilin anymore, except the boats to and from Yangshuo. You can take a cargo boat if you want to at almost no cost from Wuzhou to Yangshuo.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: topaz on January 03, 2009, 09:07:05 PM
if they went to Central Siberia in Russia and there will be 2 legs there for this season, then that will make Survivor put to shame and I hope this will happen! :yess:

Anyway, here's my revised legs that contain for TAR 14, in my theory:

Starting leg: Los Alamitos Airfield, California (just near to Los Angeles, again)

leg 1 & 2: Switzerland
leg 3: Salzburg, Austria
leg 4: Romania
leg 5 & 6: Central Siberia, Russia
leg 7: Nepal or India (again?!?!) or Bangladesh
leg 8: Phuket, Thailand
leg 9: Guilin, China [2nd non-elimination leg]
leg 10: Beijing, China
leg 11 (final leg): final city will be either in Hawaii or East coast part of USA

And since I theorized that there will be 2 legs in Central Siberia, surely the only way to get there is via the Trans-Siberian Railway after landing in Moscow, Russia because the roads in Russia, especially in the Siberian region are very bad and getting there will take weeks, not a few days to get to some of the towns and cities on that region unlike in getting to a train or to the airport and that's what I'd saw in a TV series called Long Way Round when Ewan McGregor, Charley Boorman and the rest of the crew went to that area and they had difficulty to drive in a Siberian roads.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 03, 2009, 11:12:41 PM
Topaz, you are a bit  naive about Russian tranportation systems. The roads are few and there is the TransSiberian Railway, but airports exist for all the medium and large cities. Here is a list of some airports:

Tyumen’
Novosibirsk
Krasnoyarsk
Irkutsk
Khabarovsk
Ulan Ude

I am sure there are many others.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: selkie on January 03, 2009, 11:29:43 PM
If they managed to pull off a real coup and get permission to film there, Bhutan could be an option for leg 7. All reports are that it's a beautiful and safe place with wonderful people, but they limit the number of tourists allowed into the country to what they see as a non-disruptive level.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: ZBC Company on January 03, 2009, 11:52:44 PM
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]

Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 04, 2009, 12:03:51 AM
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]

Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]
:browsie:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: redwings8831 on January 04, 2009, 02:29:47 AM
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]

Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]

When he says "less airports", does this actually mean their will be less airports visited during the race, or during the episodes, will they just show less of the "airport scene" and focus more on the actual tasks, because there have been some past episodes where up to 15 minutes were based in the airports?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 04, 2009, 06:19:34 AM
ooo. Good question.

Now you have me thinking.

I think it would mean both, since they are trying to cut the budget and make the show more entertaining (let's face it, airports are pretty boring most of the time.)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]

Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]

When he says "less airports", does this actually mean their will be less airports visited during the race, or during the episodes, will they just show less of the "airport scene" and focus more on the actual tasks, because there have been some past episodes where up to 15 minutes were based in the airports?

Here's my take on this, fwiw....

I have heard from more than one source that the "purse strings" are being tightened and that there will be some budget changes this season. One of the easiest ways to do that is to minimize the number of flights taken.

As we saw last season, there were two legs in the same locations (Moscow and Delhi), which eliminated 2 flights. I am being told that we may see that sort of leg again...

We already have Switzerland/Austria which may involve train instead of plane, which could be a huge cost savings especially early in the season when there are still such large numbers of racers and production staff to move from place to place.

There could also be a double leg later on still, perhaps in Thailand or Siberia or (less likely) even in China. Every plane not taken is a huge $$ savings.

There have also previously been a few flights that while it appeared to us as viewers that they were being booked,  they actually may have been "reserved" by production ahead of time, which would also be a cost savings. If racers are told they can only fly "X" airline from "X" airport during a small time window, they are often in actuality limited to one or two flights, and sometimes those could be booked/reserved ahead...

So my thoughts are that that statement just may be BVM's way of putting a positive spin on some budget constraints.

But gosh knows that I would LOVELOVELOVE more clues like "make your way to the water that thunders" not take this prearranged flight to Victoria Falls in South Africa and then this arranged car/taxi, etc. Anything that makes the racers have to THINK about how to get from point to point (train vs bus vs ferry vs plane) is all good, as far as I am concerned. I would love more let the racers figure out how to get there on their own sorts of clues. Self driving, self navigation, all that is a great travel skill and some teams would do really well at that. That was the worst part of TAR 13 for me...I really missed self-navigation  and the fun that ensues when things go screwy.

TARA 3 was billed as "the toughest race" this year, and it was in great part, I think, tough because there were fewer flights. Teams were stuck on long local bus rides, had long tasks in each place, and were exhausted from that, and I certainly never ever missed any airport drama. It was nicely done... Flight booking is never that exciting to watch, :lol:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on January 04, 2009, 03:05:34 PM
There will probably be fewer airports used in the Race itself, but they could have fewer scenes at the airport.  I wouldn't mind -- when I wrote my Fantasy Amazing Race story, I didn't spend much time in the airports and it was probably more exciting that way!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on January 04, 2009, 03:28:00 PM
According to a TV Guide interview, Bertram van Munster, the executive producer of the show, revealed that the countries of the People's Republic of China and Russia will be visited as he states that the racers in this season will be "suffering through blizzards in Central Siberia" and will be involved with "Olympic-themed challenges in Beijing".[3]

Furthermore, he also promised that this season will feature "less airports".[3]

When he says "less airports", does this actually mean their will be less airports visited during the race, or during the episodes, will they just show less of the "airport scene" and focus more on the actual tasks, because there have been some past episodes where up to 15 minutes were based in the airports?

They have already cut the airport drama dramatically, unfortunately. (:;) If they cut any more of the footage that makes this show great, it won't even make any sense!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 04, 2009, 03:35:50 PM
Permit me to demur. "Flight booking is never that exciting to watch" is not an opinion that I share. Self-driving to demonstrate navigation skills is certainly exciting but so is the handling of complex plane reservations. Many of the most dramatic moments in prior Amazing Races have come during the flight booking process. To name just 2 off the top of my head, AR11 Uchenna and Joyce going Krakow to Kuala Lumpur via Frankfurt and AR4 David and Jeff  Cairns to Sydney and out of the race for the Finish Line.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2009, 03:50:08 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with you there, hooky and apskip. I think we have been seeing MORE airport stuff lately, and I have never thought that was what made the show great. Booking flights=boring for me (usually). For me it is all about the locations, the tasks, but most of all watching the teams cope with the challenge of figuring this all out and interacting w/ each other and with the locations they are placed in--as in the TRAVEL.. Watching teams run to a counter and book tickets just doesn't do it for me. I still remember that on the Siem Reap leg when I was so hungry for MORE Angkor Wat and MORE "floating village" we had a good 15-20 minutes of booking tickets in NZ (snooze)....

Now yes, sometimes it is ALL about the flights and that's fine. Flights can make or break you sometimes. Sometimes the team interactions during a booking are crucial, and that's always good to see. I would not have wanted to miss the drama of Chip/Kim scoring the flight they did. But seeing team after team run to a counter, book the same flight or two, not so much. I'd love to see more trains, buses, ferries even if it meant the locations were closer to each other.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 04, 2009, 03:55:47 PM
A large number of our contestant spotting spoilers came from airport sightings last season. By reducing the number of flights, production have diminished the number of pre race spoilers we have for this season, in addition to saving some on their budget, so I'm sure from their perspective it is a win win situatation  ;D
There is no way they can completely eliminate flights from the schedule, unless they went back to another North America only edition :nono2: so there will still be airport drama footage available, but I think that varying the mode of transport between alternative public transport and self drive options is a good thing and gives different teams an advantage depending on their different strengths, weaknesses and intra-team dynamics. Pre arranged 'car with hired driver' has to be my least favourite option.
:pedaler: :horsey: :plane: :chute: :ele:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: marigold on January 04, 2009, 04:11:33 PM

I agree apskip

Booking flights is a major factor of the race it certainly doesn’t leave any room for a single team to run like hell to catch an unsuspecting departing flight

Controlled and prearranged limits teams to an even playing field no one gets advantages for their quick thinking and actions to get ahead

ie catch one of these 2 flights kinda sucks 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on January 04, 2009, 10:21:49 PM
Peach, if you go back and watch older seasons of the race (in other words, before the race was compressed and made into more of a controlled situation in seasons 12 and 13), you will find much more airport drama and much more self-driving. Seasons 12 and 13 were definitely not up to the caliber of the previous seasons in that regard, and I hope they aren't setting a precedent of "fed-exing" people around the world.

If anything, airport drama has already decreased to an unacceptable low. :(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 05, 2009, 12:02:19 AM
airport drama and self-driving was a treat and highlight and I actually want more rather than less...I dont mind the lesser airports however!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 05, 2009, 03:06:58 AM
In this train of thought, would TPTB have made teams travel by land from Guangzhou to Guilin? It'd save production quite a pile of cash!

Sure, you can fly from Guangzhou to Guilin (to which Apskip will certainly attest), but with the budget factor for production, it could be worth looking at the other options! If racers are given the liberty, you have the train, which is slower but mostly on time; the bus, which travels a more direct route but more prone to delays; minivans, which are much faster but cost a whole lot more, and well, so on!

Any chance, any chance at all that instructions would get teams to fly into Guangzhou, THEN travel by any means possible (including or excluding flights) to Guilin? (Damn we haven't seen "travel by any means possible" since Tunisia in TAR1, have we? I really, really, really miss those!)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 05, 2009, 04:38:14 AM
On the note of TAR1 and Guangzhou to Guilin.

What if getting to Guilin was the detour (similar to the one made famous by Nancy and Emily)

Like take the train or take the bus?

And TAR would get to bunch people, which they love doing.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 05, 2009, 09:45:27 AM
Yes, it is quite possible to travel by train from Guangzhou to Guilin. However, it is approximately 400miles and the hydrofoils go and probably at least 200 more as the trains go. There is
only one direct train; it leaves Guangzhou at 1939 and arrives Guilin at 0642, an 11 hour trip that is the lowesty travel time possible by train. Other reasonable possiblities all involve transferring train at Hengyang. The first segment is a 6 hour trip:
2114 0322
0908 1523
1746 0051
2336 0617
1036 1714

the second segment is a 6 to 7 hour trip:
0933 1442
0805 1417
1525 2207
0709 1328
0825 1508
1603 2213
1054 1625
0200 0847
2143 0455

The combination of the two schedules would typically add 2 to 4 hours (beyond 12 to 13 hours) except for one fortuitous conneciton that if you are on time would be a 2 minute transfer.

Although long, arduous train trips have been a big favorite of the Amazing Race for traveling in Asia, I do not think they would use it for this particular route. Bus travel is much more direct and would be a better choice in my opinion due to the circuitous route to get to Guilin from Guangzhou (look it up on a map and then see where hengyang is) by train.

 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 05, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
A disclaimer of sorts .....I read elsewhere that rff is getting credited with spoiling 2 dwarfs as contestants as well as the girl in orange from Auburn (in orange) being the deaf contestant BUT we have no proof of this, this quote below came from Coutzy! We have no photos from Coutzy's moms friend, no proof what so ever, just hearsay so with that said, its pure speculation until we get some real proof. We don't want other forums/blogs quoting us as saying "rff says, the deaf female contestant is from Auburn, and 2 dwarfs...." etc.
Sorry for the confusion people  :waves:
These are the real spoilers (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17805.0.html), as best as we can determine and the contestant spoilers/sightings are summarized here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17789.0.html).

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I have some information regarding TAR 14, but unfortunately the website won't send me an activation email, so I am passing this info on the only way possible for me at the moment.

One of my mothers friends saw several teams in Thailand and because she is a TAR fan, she recognized them straight away and began talking to them.

One of the teams was the father/son team

One was the young dating team in orange, one of whom was deaf.

The third team was a team of two male dwarfs (possibly the 'two short men')

She spoke with the deaf woman for a long time in the airport, and she whispered 'we're in a race' to her. The deaf woman also said to trip the dwarfs, they aren't nice people.

There were camera men with every team who were being very careful about people taking photos. In spite of this, she said she managed to get several good photos of the teams she saw.

I will send the photos when I can get my hands on them.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: RichInSydney on January 05, 2009, 03:56:57 PM
From Phuket they could have got a ferry from the boat terminal to one of a number of spots on the water,  eg. Phi Phi Island, Krabi etc.

There is an airport in Krabi to get back to Bangkok and then onto China.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 05, 2009, 05:07:10 PM
A disclaimer of sorts .....I read elsewhere that rff is getting credited with spoiling 2 dwarfs as contestants as well as the girl in orange from Auburn (in orange) being the deaf contestant BUT we have no proof of this, this quote below came from Coutzy! We have no photos from Coutzy's moms friend, no proof what so ever, just hearsay so with that said, its pure speculation until we get some real proof. We don't want other forums/blogs quoting us as saying "rff says, the deaf female contestant is from Auburn, and 2 dwarfs...." etc.
Sorry for the confusion people  :waves:

I just want to say a hearty AMEN to what puddin has said. We do not know which of our contestants is the deaf woman yet and puddin said it better but I too believe that there are 2 short men, but we have NO verified spoilers that they are actual "little people" as I said in the contestant thread:

Okay, I want to give y'all a couple of updates.

It is being reported elsewhere that the deaf person on the race is a male, not a female as I was told.

I will again say that I am being told that the deaf person is a woman who relies primarily on signing for communication.

Additionally,  this post (as reported to Michael by Coutzy) suggested the possibility of two male "little people"...
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg362349.html#msg362349


I think we can all agree that there are two short men on the race, based on several sightings. However, I am NOT being told that there are two "male little people" on the race, and I truly do think that that would have been mentioned by one of our other sources by now were that the case.

So in the absence of further proof (photos, etc) , I am going to ask that we do NOT assume that the the two short men seen are "little people"--as of this writing I do NOT believe that they are.  Just want to be clear here because I keep reading elsewhere that RFF says there are "dwarves" on the race, and RFF is saying no such thing. :groan:

I would of course be delighted to see photo evidence confirming this, it would be wonderful casting!



But I am in total agreement w/ puddin that this "dwarf" rumor is speculation only until further proof is presented, as is the identity of the deaf contestant.

Hopefully we will get the cast release soon and finally know for sure!  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 05, 2009, 05:28:44 PM
From Phuket they could have got a ferry from the boat terminal to one of a number of spots on the water,  eg. Phi Phi Island, Krabi etc.

There is an airport in Krabi to get back to Bangkok and then onto China.

Yes, RichIn Sydney but they could also have used the much higher volume airport in Phuket, probably flying out via Bangkok but there are other places(Koh Samui, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur,Hong Kong, Seoul, Shanghai but not Munich as there isn't time to return to Europe). You would have to be interested in making a statement to go 100km to Krabi for the pleasure (NOT) of flying out of that smaller airport.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 05, 2009, 08:46:20 PM
I was looking at potential Siberian blizzards (high wind and snow) from Nov 9 to Nov 14. Who would have thought - blizzards in Siberia. :groan: I didn't check every city, but here is what I found...

Novosibirsk Tolmachevo, RS (Airport)
Nov. 9 10:30 am wind gusts 50km and heavy snow
Irkutsk
Nov. 10 2:00am wind gusts 50km and heavy snow
Ulan-Ude
Nov. 10 11:00am wind gusts 43km and heavy snow

I guess BVM wouldn't know what a real blizzard is - 40km wind, heavy snow etc but these should be pretty close...

I like Novosibirsk and Irkutsk because they have direct flights to Bangkok.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 05, 2009, 09:17:43 PM
To clear up any confusion (sorry about that) here is what I was told.


NOTE: THIS IS NOT PROVEN!

My mom's friend saw the racers in Thailand.

The team she contacted was the orange team.

They told her to "Trip the dwarves, they aren't nice people"

Now, given what we have seen previously on TAR "The Dwarves" may very easily be a nickname used by the racers (Similar to "The Freaks" for Kynt and Vyxsin.)

And sorry for any confusion that I caused.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 05, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
walkingpneumonia,
I appreciate the research you have done on the weather in the correct time frame. Your airline information needs a bit of updating. There are no direct flights form Irkutsk to Bangkok, nor are there any from Novosibirsk. Those cities, which I agree with you are probably the most logical of those on my list above, require complex flight combinations involving 2 or more airlines and flights from Novosibirsk and 3 or more airlines and flights from Irkutsk to reach Bangkok. The other Siberian cities would probably be the same, although I have not checked them. None of those places will have a direct flight to Bangkok. There just isn't the combination of income and demand to support that.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 06, 2009, 07:59:56 AM
peach, you said
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Teams were stuck on long local bus rides, had long tasks in each place, and were exhausted from that, and I certainly never ever missed any airport drama.
I find long bus rides (of the 10+ hour variety, certainly not local) to be the most boring part of Amazing Races that have them. Witness the ride from Bangkok to Chiang Mai in Episode 1 of ARA3.  Contrast that with long train rides. Because of the different interior layout of trains vs. buses, train rides allow teams to socialize and "mingle". Airplane flights are quite boring, but the drama at the travel agent or the airline reservations agent can make that the most compelling drama of the three modes of transportation, although frequently it too is boring.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 06, 2009, 08:40:23 AM
walkingpneumonia,
I appreciate the research you have done on the weather in the correct time frame. Your airline information needs a bit of updating. There are no direct flights form Irkutsk to Bangkok, nor are there any from Novosibirsk. Those cities, which I agree with you are probably the most logical of those on my list above, require complex flight combinations involving 2 or more airlines and flights from Novosibirsk and 3 or more airlines and flights from Irkutsk to reach Bangkok. The other Siberian cities would probably be the same, although I have not checked them. None of those places will have a direct flight to Bangkok. There just isn't the combination of income and demand to support that.
According to this: http://www.s7.ru/en/flight_info/our_cities/index.html (http://www.s7.ru/en/flight_info/our_cities/index.html) S7 flies from Irkutsk and Novosibirsk to Bangkok - has this flight been discontinued? Its only once a week (Mondays) from Irkutsk so its probably not practical for TAR purposes - but its 3 times a week from Novosibirsk.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 06, 2009, 10:46:24 AM
My airline information source requires specification of specific dates, not a range, so I did miss the information you have develoepd.  I stand corrected. Your information about the Siberian Airlines flight Novosibirsk to Bangkok is right, walkingpneumonia. There are 3 flights a week at very odd hours:

Thursdays and Sundays 0205 1020
Fridays 0330 1135

Now, the date of travel would have been Nov. 16, a Monday, or possibly Nov. 15, a Sunday, so we cannot rule it out. However, Sunday would have them pausing for almost 24 hours(although maybe there was a Bangkok leg slipped in there). The WRP coordination to make sure teams could make one of these flights would have been massive.

From Irkutsk to Bankgkok your information that there is one direct flights is correct. The only flight I find to Bangkok starts on a Monday (such as Nov. 16) at 505 and arrives Bangkok at 1105. That is likely to be OK.  We need more information about when things happened in Phuket to be sure.

With what I know I actually believe that AR14 did use one of those flights. They are too weird for it to be just random. See what I am about to write about Siberia.

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 06, 2009, 11:03:38 AM
I have a hunch and I think it is the right time to reveal it. The centerpiece of going to Siberia should be - a ride on the fabled TransSiberianExpress, of course. In order to do that you have to have a segment that is short enough to make sense. There is a segment from Novosibirsk that will stop in Krasnoyarsk. I cannot obtain the schedule because the very-hard-to-work-with timetable does not accept the word "Krasnoyarsk", which should be valid. However, I know from the map that that is a longish segment. The other segment worth looking at is Irkutsk to Ulan Ude or the reverse. I am shocked by the fact that there are 11 daily trips in the eastward direction. I have to assume that there are approximately the same westbound. The length of that trip varies form 7 hours to 13 hours.

What I see as possible is this:
1. fly into Siberia to Ulan-Ude and have a leg there arriving probably Nov. 10
2. while there there was a heavy snowstorm that cause WRP production to call a 24 hour halt
3. the departure from Ulan-Ude would on Nov. 13
4. teams would then get one of the westbound trains from Ulan-Ude to Irkutsk, arriving same day
5. there would be a leg in the Irkutsk area, the entry point to Lake Baikal
6. after what may have been an extended pit stop, teams are ready to depart before Monday Nov. 17 on the Siberian Airlines flight at 505am, arriving Bangkok at 1105am (which walkingpneumonia discovered when I missed it). However, after a date mistake was pointed out to me, it is clear that this is too late for the Phuket sightings on the 16th

The Trans-Siberian Express train schedule westbound from Ulan-Ude to Irkutsk is:
Depart Arrive Duration
05:00 12:51  07:51     
05:31 12:26  06:55   
09:27 19:50  10:23     
09:50  07:01  07:11     
11:10  22:45  11:35     
11:53  19:11  07:18   
12:58  20:13  07:15   
18:00  02:20  08:20   
21:02  04:30  07:28 

Just so the information is captured here, this is the schedule westbound from Krasnojarsk(I found it by altering its spelling) to Novosibirsk:

00:57  14:09  13:12 
04:10  16:01  11:51   
04:25  20:38  16:13     
05:39  17:44  12:05   
05:59  20:06  14:07   
06:52  18:51  11:59   
07:08  20:23  13:15 
07:18  22:52  15:34 
08:05  21:24  13:19 


So, what do you think of that hypothesis?


EDITOR'S NOTE - the above logic disnitegrates when tehre is an error of one day due to Monday being the only day of the week for the key flight to Bangkok. This means that I need to redo the logic to focus on Krasnojarsk and Novosibirsk instead of Ulan Ude and Irkutsk. The concept of using the TransSiberian Express is intact. I am going to start fresh in a new posting.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 06, 2009, 11:50:04 AM
I really like this Siberian itinerary - should make great TV.  :yess:

I especially like that potentially teams have to read a train schedule in Russian in order to make the correct decision about which train to take - some trains that depart later arrive earlier at the destination, probably because they make fewer stops on the way.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 06, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
This hypothesis replaces the one above which proved to have a faulty date which scuttled the rationale for it.

Here is the proposed sequence events:
1. Departure from Bucharest Romania flying to Krasnojarsk, Russia probably departing Sunday Nov.9
Flight combinations choices are:
TK1444  OTP IST  1050 1215  connecting to  TK1415  IST SVO  1335 1740  connecting to  SU779  SVO KJA 2255 0540+1
9U9862  OTP KIV 1240 1350  connecting to  S7158   KIV DME  1605 1850  connecting to  S7071  DME KJA 2220 0645+1
RO343  OTP VIE 1610 1655  connecting to  FV204  VIE LED  1750 2235  connecting to  FV577 LED KJA  0050+1 0930+1
2. Leg 5 tasks in the region around Krasnoyarsk
3. Delay of 24 hours due to snowstorm?
4. start pit stop in Krasnojarsk on Nov. 12; release from it early on Nov. 13
5. TransSiberian Express train travel on Nov. 13 from Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk (see below for details)
6. Arrival either late on Nov. 13 or early on 14th
7. tasks in Novosiobirsk on nov. 14
8. Begin extended 36 hour pit stop
9. Release around midnight becoming Nov. 16
10. Early on Nov. 16 fly Novosibirsk to Bangkok, S7789 0205 1020


Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk Trans-Siberian Express Schedules
Depart Arrive Duration
00:57 14:09  13:12  
05:39 17:44  12:05  
05:59 20:06  14:07  
06:52 18:51  11:59  
07:18 22:52  15:34  
08:05 21:24  13:19
12:36 01:12  12:36  
13:00 02:24  13:24  
14:37 04:19  13:42  
18:26 06:47  12:21    
23:36 12:38  13:02  
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 07, 2009, 11:33:04 AM
If anything, airport drama has already decreased to an unacceptable low. :(
From the recap point of view, airport drama is never fun and decreasing it is welcomed at this end. Airport drama to me has become so boring that you can skip that part of the show and not miss anything.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: password on January 07, 2009, 03:27:28 PM
According to an interview teams struggled in the cold of Siberia and did Olympic themed challenges in Beijing Source:wikipedia.org on amaing race14 article they have sources youn can check.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 07, 2009, 03:53:51 PM
password, I think we reported that article first. Please read the threads, okay??

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg367514.html#msg367514

wiki gets most of their spoiler info from us....  :sucks
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 07, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
Hi guys. :waves:

You guys have done an incredible job with these spoilers. I'm from Australia, and I haven't seen anything TAR-related here' since TARA1. Can't wait until this season hits the air. I'm also Armenian by nationality, and I saw that Armenia was speculated as a destination earlier. Any new news about that?

Great job detectives! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 08, 2009, 12:00:07 AM
Welcome racer!

Good to see another Aussie here to keep me company.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 08, 2009, 03:57:50 AM
:welcome2: to RFF, racer!  :waves:

But nothing about Armenia, I'm afraid....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 08, 2009, 04:15:52 AM
I've been reading through this forum, and I apologise if this information is already on here, but I should mention it in any case:

The father/son team that has been sighted in Phuket could possibly be Mel White and Mike White, the latter of which wrote the movie "The School Of Rock". They are also both gay. This information comes from tvsquad.com, and I should point out that it is speculation. :duno:

And once again, I apologise if that was already on here, but I did not see anything. :ascared
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 08, 2009, 05:23:08 AM
How long ago had we all figured out that one?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: redwings8831 on January 08, 2009, 09:40:47 AM
I've been reading through this forum, and I apologise if this information is already on here, but I should mention it in any case:

The father/son team that has been sighted in Phuket could possibly be Mel White and Mike White, the latter of which wrote the movie "The School Of Rock". They are also both gay. This information comes from tvsquad.com, and I should point out that it is speculation. :duno:

And once again, I apologise if that was already on here, but I did not see anything. :ascared

Did you read this thread?

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17789.0.html
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 08, 2009, 10:38:09 AM
I've been reading through this forum, and I apologise if this information is already on here, but I should mention it in any case:

The father/son team that has been sighted in Phuket could possibly be Mel White and Mike White, the latter of which wrote the movie "The School Of Rock". They are also both gay. This information comes from tvsquad.com, and I should point out that it is speculation. :duno:

And once again, I apologise if that was already on here, but I did not see anything. :ascared
Mel and Mike White originated here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17789.msg364845.html#msg364845), by us, and has come full circle racer,I hope that helps  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 08, 2009, 11:31:42 AM
Again, other people read us.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 08, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
I had read through everything, and sorry, I just didn't recall seeing that anywhere.

Sorry. :(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: banzai on January 08, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
Because of the TAR14 stuff, I was curious about Destination Unknown and kept track of the videos. Phil was phoning it in of course, but I looked to see if it was all prepared on the same day. So far, it seems that way: the clothes, the lighting (slightly above and to his left) and the backdrop are the same.
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=110915;image)

Heres the tv guide quip ..

Phil infront of a Jet? Engine. Maybe Los Alamitos Airfield isn't too far off the mark?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/rff-0000.jpg)


Same clothes. Hmm. Same day? Is it Boeing 757 engine? Where was the photo shoot? Airplane hangar?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 08, 2009, 06:25:07 PM
Good catch banzai  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 08, 2009, 09:35:25 PM
 :waves: 757 is a good guess, as good as any: the PW2000 (http://www.pw.utc.com/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextrefresh=1&vgnextoid=d9e61a157e6db010VgnVCM1000000881000aRCRD) series has a fan diameter of 78 inches (not enough for a match, but it's similar). The trouble is, there's no more info from the photo; it could be in a museum for all we know.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: banzai on January 08, 2009, 09:40:54 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/earlyshow/series/amazingrace/main4556013.shtml

I found the first video of Destination Unknown but I can't find the 2nd video.

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Koeghan, who was in Los Angeles, is about to start shooting the next "Amazing Race" and he is keeping mum on all of the juicy details.

I guess the photoshoot is somewhere in L.A.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: banzai on January 08, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
We assume the race got underway on Friday October 31 thanks to various (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15486.msg358081.html#msg358081) reports.

Not Confirmed:
futurecontestnat sucks posts (http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/3679930/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html):
 tar 14 started in los alamitos, california at the military base 100% correct my friends dad works at the military base



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/earlyshow/series/amazingrace/main4556013.shtml

That video was posted on Oct. 29th. Hmm.

Was the photoshoot day on the same day of the race or 2 days earlier?  :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: banzai on January 09, 2009, 12:06:19 AM
http://www.wwrexpo.net/about.htm

7TH ANNUAL WINGS, WHEELS, ROTORS & EXPO

The Seventh Annual “Wings, Wheels and Rotors Expo” at the Joint Forces Training Base in Los Alamitos, will again be presented by the Los Alamitos Area Chamber of Commerce and the JFTB.  The show will be on Sunday, Oct. 26, 2008, from 9:00 a.m. until 4 p.m., on the tarmac of the Army Airfield.

The show includes military and civilian airplanes, helicopters and a large custom car show.

(http://www.wwrexpo.net/2004/wings/49.jpg)
http://www.wwrexpo.net/2004/sh-wings.htm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: banzai on January 09, 2009, 12:21:56 AM
(http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3456/rff0001mg1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 09, 2009, 12:29:20 AM
Quote
Can't find this..
Will this (http://flickr.com/photos/stevenpam/458346000/) work?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: banzai on January 09, 2009, 01:09:55 AM
(http://www.wwrexpo.net/2004/wings/49.jpg)
http://www.wwrexpo.net/2004/sh-wings.htm

OK. I'll go with Boeing C17 Globemaster III manufactured for the U.S. Air Force and the starting line is at the Los Alamitos Joint Forces Training Base.  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 09, 2009, 02:13:51 AM
Awesome, banzai!! :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 09, 2009, 02:32:12 AM
Very nice banzai  :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 09, 2009, 09:18:12 AM
Something has been bothering me in regard to the Siberian cities that were probably involved in AR14. It is the eyewitness report of seeing Phil in Delhi airport either in the early hours of Saturday Nov.15 or the early hours of Sunday Nov. 16(it is not clear to me which although maybe something else can clarify this). Why this is important is because with the ultimate destination of Phuket and the intermediate transit point of Bangkok we need a resonable path to get both Phil there and the teams there on time on Nov. 16. So, how do you get from Siberia to Bangkok and from Siberia to Delhi to Bangkok?

When I examine the possible routes with minimum flying times it narrows quickly down to Moscow. It is easy for the teams to get to Bangkok. They have to get SVO BKK SU553 1940 0905+1 , then BKK HKT TG1205 1030 1150. The problem is with Phil, because he would not want to be traveling with the teams. My guess is that he has a 36 hour lead due to an extended rest stop. So what would that allow him to do? One possibility is to get to Moscow(to be addressed below) on Nov. 14 in time for SU555 SVO DEL 1850 0330+1, connecting with DEL BKK TG724 1155 1725 and then with BKK HKT TG223 1820 1940. To do this he must have been unable to get the Moscow to Bangkok flight SU553 on Nov. 14, which should have been his first choice but could have been full.

The next question is how teams could get to Moscow-Sheremetyevo for these connections. Here are the possiblities that fit(although all have long connect times in Moscow):

Best is Irkutsk IKT SVO SU748 1400 1525
Novosibirsk    OVB SVO 5N808 1055 1210
Krasnojarsk    KJA  SVO SU782 1040 1145
Ulan Ude        UUD DME S7116 0840 1105 Note: this one goes to Domodedovo airport; ground transportation is   required to get to Sheremetyevo airport, probably about 2 hours away by taxi.

If anyone else can solve the puzzle of Phil in Delhi airport, then speak up. One possibility is that teams were in Siberia around Nov. 9/10 but moved on to one or two other places down toward Delhi on the way to Bangkok. I would love for one of those places to be Kathmandu.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: ZBC Company on January 09, 2009, 03:30:29 PM
hoever guese it say it not los angles
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Dånooky on January 09, 2009, 07:41:10 PM
(...)The problem is with Phil, because he would not want to be traveling with the teams. (...)
Although they try to keep Phil ahead of the teams, I remember having read that there's been several times when Phil travels in the same flight with the contestants (albeit in First Class), so perhaps this is the case?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 09, 2009, 08:33:14 PM
That's very possible.

It happens more often than most think (Including in some cases, such as TAR 7, the final leg)

So it sounds like a distinct possibility.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: harley on January 11, 2009, 04:26:34 AM
Regarding the jet engine from Phil's picture:

My brother flies 757s and 767s, so I asked him to take a look.  According to him, it could be a 757 or possibly a 737 engine.  He doesn't usually do the walk-around and there are several different engines certified to be used for 757s.  He 's fairly sure that it's not a Rolls Royce engine, but thinks it might be a Pratt & Whitney with a small possibility that it's a GE.  He said he could tell better if he could see the cone that Phil is blocking.  He's pretty positive the engine is not from the military plane because he thinks those engines are actually bigger than the one in Phil's picture.

The little gizmo just under Phil's right hand is an air inflow sensor.  There's another one on the back of the engine that measures the air outflow and combined this gives a reading of how much thrust the engine is producing.

He thought the picture could have been an engine at a maintenance facility (the engine would be detached from the plane and easier to get to - and easier for a picture to be made); or it could be a prop from a studio lot; or possibly a privately-owned jet (there's a private 757 at the Burbank airport that parks next to where my brother parks when they land that is available to be leased).  Or as one poster mentioned, it could be from a museum.

OK.  Way too much info, I know.  You just can't shut up me or my brother when we're talking about things we're into.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 11, 2009, 03:25:04 PM
OK.  Way too much info, I know.  You just can't shut up me or my brother when we're talking about things we're into.

 Thanks a heap for this info Harley. There's no such thing as too much info when sleuthing...sometimes it's the little details that make the difference.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 11, 2009, 06:38:23 PM
That's fabulous Harley!! Thank you! :kuss:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 12, 2009, 12:35:37 PM
Regarding the jet engine from Phil's picture:

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My brother flies 757s and 767s, so I asked him to take a look.  According to him, it could be a 757 or possibly a 737 engine.  He doesn't usually do the walk-around and there are several different engines certified to be used for 757s.  He 's fairly sure that it's not a Rolls Royce engine, but thinks it might be a Pratt & Whitney with a small possibility that it's a GE.  He said he could tell better if he could see the cone that Phil is blocking.  He's pretty positive the engine is not from the military plane because he thinks those engines are actually bigger than the one in Phil's picture.

Actually the C-17 and the 757 have the same engine installed, the PW2000 manufactured by Pratt & Whitney.  Since the C-17 is  a military aircarft, they designated the engines as a F117-PW-100.  However it is pretty much the same engine. 


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He thought the picture could have been an engine at a maintenance facility (the engine would be detached from the plane and easier to get to - and easier for a picture to be made); or it could be a prop from a studio lot; or possibly a privately-owned jet (there's a private 757 at the Burbank airport that parks next to where my brother parks when they land that is available to be leased).  Or as one poster mentioned, it could be from a museum.

I don't think it is a maintenance facility.  It if is, then the engine is still attached to the airplane.   Phil is standing on the inlet which means the picture was taken on an actual airplane.  If the engine was not attached to the airplane then the inlet area where Phil is standing wouldn't be present.   The only place I have ever seen an engine with the entire Nacelle attached is at a Training Facility, e.g.  on-site at Pratt & Whitney.  However, it is possible that a major maintenance facility could have such a set up.

I believe the picture was taken on an actual aircraft.  If the rumor/spoiler about Los Alamitos base being the starting point then I would say that is the most convenient place for a picture like this one.  It would have to be some place where an aircraft was parked for a period of time.  Getting access to an airplane is not an easy thing. I've had instances where for whatever reason I needed access to a domestic aircraft and I had to plan ahead and go at a time when the aircraft wasn't in rotation (meaning being worked on at the airport facility and is down for the night or day and isn't scheduled for use for several hours).   That was usually late at night or early morning.

Also, it is possible that when they were in Seattle  that the pic was taken at one of the Boeing facilities. However, that would mean it isn't a 757 since the 757 is no longer in production.  However, with planning, contacting the Boeing Media department,  time for production to get access to an airplane  for pictures could be done.  I recall a few years ago, Maroon 5 was onsite at my facility for promotional pictures of them in front on an aircraft or the aircraft engines (I don't recall the specifics). 

Therefore, I think is is highly likely the picture was either scheduled or was taken during a long downtime at a facility where production was set up for a long period of time like they were most likely for at Los Al.

At any rate, that's my 2 cents.  Now it's out in the open....I work for Boeing and I deal specifically with engines.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on January 12, 2009, 04:16:10 PM
Nice info, colby! You guys are doing a great job!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2009, 05:40:33 PM
Thanks for the info harley and colby  :jam:
Lets think of a start line that might require contestants arriving on "boats"
And thanks to s1, this article (http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/01/survivor-secrets-revealed.php) tells us the Survivor cast should be revealed next week so we can probably be looking at the TAR cast soon as well but thats stating the obvious  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: north09 on January 12, 2009, 06:09:07 PM
If I remember correctly, they released the TAR cast like 2 days before the Survivor cast last time.

So, why boats?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2009, 07:44:24 PM
If I remember correctly, they released the TAR cast like 2 days before the Survivor cast last time.

So, why boats?
Something I read but, the boats can also be used for any leg of the race, I'm guessing here.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 12, 2009, 08:55:53 PM
by boats? in the LA/OC area?  Well we could rule out Long Beach and Santa Monica since they've done those places already.  I doubt they would repeat those places.    San Pedro is where all the big  ships come into the LA harbor....however that's not very scenic.  Marina Del Rey....however that is way to close to LAX.  I would think they would start somewhere a little further away. 

In OC.....Newport maybe?  Lots of places where smaller boats (fishing, sail, yachts) come into.  Huntington Beach.....I can't think of any place around there boats can come in and out of.


Hmmmm, how about this....(thinking outside of the box).....since the final destination appears to be Hawaii, how about they start on an island?  Catalina island.  It's just off the coast.  There are boats/ferries that take people to and from the island daily.  I think it takes about an hour.  Those boats go to Marina Del Rey, Long Beach, and Newport Beach.  Though I can't say how often they run.  Of course they could rent them out and allow only the first 5 to come to the mainland on the first one at a set period and the other to leave 15-30 min later on the next one.  Or they could have boats with captains ready to take them to the mainland and it's a race to  a set point on the mainland with a bunch of boats.  There they would have cars waiting for them so they could drive themselves to the airport. 

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 12, 2009, 10:33:44 PM
*interrupting the starting line posts for a while*

If there is a perfect place for a Pit Stop in Guilin, TPTB found it!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Guilin/GuilinFoldedBrocadeMountains11.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Guilin/GuilinFoldedBrocadeMountains17.jpg)

This is the Peak of the Luminous Moon in the Folded Brocade Mountains, overlooking the city of Guilin from the north, and Pit Stop in a race around the world! (Less poetic official translators call it Bright Moon Peak.)

Production closed the entire compound from 6pm on the 17th (the usual time vendors pack up and go home), and stayed ON the hilltop the entire night. There was a TPTB security team of six. (Geez, how much security do you need?) The peak's really just a courtyard with a little shelter, but the views here are marvelous. According to those who witnessed production, they have been hanging around for two days beforehand (since the 15th), and finally set up lights and a few tents for the big event, on the night of the 17th.

The people I talked to remembered rain that afternoon, when a few members of production popped by. The main activity, though, started at around 9pm. About 50-60 sandwiches were catered for the night, and a huge crowd started streaming in from 12am to 3am. It's such a huge group those I've talked to couldn't differentiate between crew and cast, but I guess those are our racers! (So late?)

Word of caution to the racers:
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Guilin/GuilinFoldedBrocadeMountains23.jpg)

PS Had the incredible luck to transit in Bangkok on the way home, and just happened to dig up something on Nickasingh's Phayathai Palace find! Your guess: US, Israel or Asia?

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=111299;image
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2009, 10:37:13 PM
Outstanding detective work Neobie!  :yess: :jumpy:  .. waiting for more Bangkok :popcorn:

eta: oh duh Nickasingh  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17852.msg364180.html#msg364180)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 12, 2009, 10:53:32 PM
Wow, Neobie!! That looks awesome!!  :jumpy:  Beautiful place for a PitStop, but guess we might not see much at night!  :groan:

Any pictures??

You have been doing truly AMAZING Detective work!! Being temporarily "retired" :lol: seems to agree w/ you!  :hearts:

Pekin Express for Nickasingh, sadly "this be none of us"....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 12, 2009, 10:58:31 PM

Hmmmm, how about this....(thinking outside of the box).....since the final destination appears to be Hawaii, how about they start on an island?  Catalina island.  It's just off the coast.  There are boats/ferries that take people to and from the island daily.  I think it takes about an hour.  Those boats go to Marina Del Rey, Long Beach, and Newport Beach.  Though I can't say how often they run.  Of course they could rent them out and allow only the first 5 to come to the mainland on the first one at a set period and the other to leave 15-30 min later on the next one.  Or they could have boats with captains ready to take them to the mainland and it's a race to  a set point on the mainland with a bunch of boats.  There they would have cars waiting for them so they could drive themselves to the airport. 


Actually CBS/BB10 used Catalina island for a private/reward so thats not a bad guess colby.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 13, 2009, 06:37:56 AM
You said the rush was between 12am-3am.

Is it possible that they had the Pit Stop elsewhere and moved it? (AGAIN!)

Don't the lead teams usually check out around midnight/early morning?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: WalterC on January 13, 2009, 07:41:12 AM
So basically, it is starting in the LA area once again, for the 3rd straight season. Maybe it's just me, but this, along with reduction of number of legs, and ending in a place that the race has been to 5 times, just shows the race could be reaching the end of the line.

What ever happened to starting in great places like the Nevada desert or the Everglades, or a variety of cities like Chicago or Denver? Now it has been reduced to Playboy Mansion, the LA Coliseum (which was a copycat of the TAR4 starting point), or an airfield (copycat of TAR12 ending point).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 13, 2009, 08:23:01 AM
If I remember correctly, they released the TAR cast like 2 days before the Survivor cast last time.

So, why boats?
Something I read but, the boats can also be used for any leg of the race, I'm guessing here.
puddin, boats are probably going to be used on either a large lake or on the ocean. If we examine the known places already known for AR14, I coclude that the Salzkammergut adjacent to Salzburg and Phuket on the Gulf of Thailand and any island of Hawaii are the most probable places for use of a boat. The start of the race also provides such an opportunity.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 13, 2009, 06:34:40 PM
So basically, it is starting in the LA area once again, for the 3rd straight season. Maybe it's just me, but this, along with reduction of number of legs, and ending in a place that the race has been to 5 times, just shows the race could be reaching the end of the line.

What ever happened to starting in great places like the Nevada desert or the Everglades, or a variety of cities like Chicago or Denver? Now it has been reduced to Playboy Mansion, the LA Coliseum (which was a copycat of the TAR4 starting point), or an airfield (copycat of TAR12 ending point).

I agree with you WalterC. It is very annoyed and it seems like CBS is just getting lazy, and don't want to put the teams anywhere else but the LA metropolitan area.  What ever happened to those different and exotic places?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on January 13, 2009, 06:45:38 PM
If the Peak of the Luminous Moon is the Pit Stop in Guillin, that's a cool spot!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 13, 2009, 07:04:41 PM
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/locations/classic-chinese.shtml

It is beautiful there!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 13, 2009, 09:54:04 PM
Might have a reason why Pit Stop arrivals are so late in Guilin...

Post 223 by Nickasingh, from Sucks (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41155/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html?page=12) (thanks hakushu8 for bringing it over!)

Had the incredible luck to connect in Bangkok for a couple of hours, and was able to gather that an "adventure company" was holding an event here at the Phayathai Palace on the 16th of November, and that the point of contact worked for... World Race Productions! (This is our race, guys!)

Other places which may or may not be locations (I can't tell for sure if I completely understood the lady I talked to, but it's worth a look) are...

(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5286/thisplacejz5.jpg) this place... and

(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!

It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!



(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5237/bangkokphayathaipalace5lm4.jpg)

Kinda weird that a month AFTER filming, the flag is still there.
If I were Nickasingh I probably would have swiped it :lol:

And... glad to report that I am now the proud (and very illegal) owner of official Amazing Race paraphernalia!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2009, 10:02:32 PM
I didn't even connect Nickasingh to the flag photo, I only remembered the Pekin Express one, sorry about that Neobie :doh: << to me.

Again, very cool info Neobie :jam:  :yess:

eta: You swiped it Neobie!! YESSS!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2009, 10:07:36 PM
Tell us more!!  :jumpy: Where/what are those places?? 'Phayathai Palace' ??  Who did you talk to? When/where/what/how??

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

LOL at you stealing the flag!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2009, 10:29:57 PM
Tell us more!!  :jumpy: Where/what are those places?? 'Phayathai Palace' ??  Who did you talk to? When/where/what/how??

Neobies going to make us search? I can't find these places!!   :lol:



Click here to view map
Phayathai Plaza

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2009, 10:45:40 PM
What does this say?

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2009, 10:48:39 PM
What does this say?


:lol: that we need a magnifying glass?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2009, 10:53:02 PM
What does this say?


:lol: that we need a magnifying glass?
Crap, that was supposed to be bigger! :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on January 13, 2009, 11:03:19 PM
What does this say?


:lol: that we need a magnifying glass?
Crap, that was supposed to be bigger! :lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 13, 2009, 11:09:28 PM
 :lol: and I'll guess that Neobie is amused too?
So we have a place that looks like some place to eat? and another place with red cross patterns on the roof? not a museum? or is it?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2009, 11:18:38 PM
Bigger=blurry  (:;)

Something parking? :lol:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14BangkokNeobies1bigger-1.png)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 13, 2009, 11:22:55 PM
I'm loving it! :lol: The things that could keep you guys up on a Tuesday night!

< Here's the magnifying glass to help you guys out! (That's the best I could get it to go. Blame my shaky hands!)

Oh, all three places share something in common. And it's Googlalbe; one turned up on Page 2, the other on Page 4!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2009, 11:29:41 PM
I hate you! :lol:

I've been Googling for an hour...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 13, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
 :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: PeeT_Pm52 on January 14, 2009, 01:46:04 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14BangkokNeobies1bigger-1.png)


this is ศิลปาคาร จุมภฏ พันธุ์ทิพย์

www.suanpakkad.com  

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 14, 2009, 08:08:23 AM
Thank you PeeT!!!!

Heee...one down, one to go!  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 14, 2009, 11:05:27 AM
Ah a palace museum, I was on the right track but would never have got it, thanks PeeT!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 14, 2009, 07:38:20 PM
Might have a reason why Pit Stop arrivals are so late in Guilin...

Post 223 by Nickasingh, from Sucks (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41155/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html?page=12) (thanks hakushu8 for bringing it over!)

Had the incredible luck to connect in Bangkok for a couple of hours, and was able to gather that an "adventure company" was holding an event here at the Phayathai Palace on the 16th of November, and that the point of contact worked for... World Race Productions! (This is our race, guys!)

Other places which may or may not be locations (I can't tell for sure if I completely understood the lady I talked to, but it's worth a look) are...

(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5286/thisplacejz5.jpg) this place... and

(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!

It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!

Neobie, I absolutely agree that Amazing Races are sometimes scheduled with two legs on back-to-back days, but I have never seen it three legs back-to-back. A possible answer is my friend the TBC, which hasn't been seen since AR6. With a TBC e nding the Phuket leg, there is no pit stop to slow teams from getting to Bangkok. Another possiblity beyone that is the split leg in 2 different places. That has been used recently, including in ARA3 with Bangkok plus chiang Mai, ARA2 where they did Hong Kong (what a farce), then New Zealand and ARA1 where the infamous Singapore Caltex task was sandwiched between departure from Auckland and arrival in Bangkok.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: mjriches2005 on January 14, 2009, 11:06:04 PM
I just have some predictions and questions regarding this coming seasons race locations.  First, if the starting line was in Los Angeles (again) how come there hasn't been any reports from LAX airport like the past two seasons.  Also if Romania is the only new country this season there should at least be one other new country.  My prediction is regarding that maybe somewhere along the first or second legs, since the sightings were in Eastern Switzerland; Liechtenstein is kinda near that area and is easily reached by rail from Zurich or to Austria on they way to Salzburg; or after the legs(s) in Siberia before Thailand (we could be looking at Nepal, Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, ect as the other new country, since no other info regarding the India sighting of Phil has came out.  My other prediction is that the length of days spent in Romania could indicate two legs and not one.  My last question is the finish line, if its in Hawaii, the only major Hawaiian island that has not hosted the Amazing Race is Molokai; already Oahu, Maui, Kauai, Lanai, and the Big Island had hosted the race in past seasons, I think Molokai might get its chance to get some Amazing Race action.  Also I think with 6 emmy's the Amazing Race might go on for a few more seasons due to its popularity.   :piano:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 15, 2009, 12:15:46 AM
Yep, Suan Pakkad is it!

Here's a map of the three locations - but the last one doesn't allow photography (it's on royal grounds), so I'm wondering if TAR really went there?

Night buses are much more frequent from Phuket to Bangkok than day buses. Will post the timetables in that thread!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 15, 2009, 12:55:15 AM
Where's that Map?? ??? Location #2 has defeated me, :lol:

TAR can go anywhere I'm convinced, they have great powers of convincing!

You did such a wonderful job tracking TAR around--almost like having our own Production team! :thankyou: and I do hope it was as much fun for you as it was for us!  :hearts:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on January 15, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Might have a reason why Pit Stop arrivals are so late in Guilin...

Post 223 by Nickasingh, from Sucks (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41155/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html?page=12) (thanks hakushu8 for bringing it over!)

Had the incredible luck to connect in Bangkok for a couple of hours, and was able to gather that an "adventure company" was holding an event here at the Phayathai Palace on the 16th of November, and that the point of contact worked for... World Race Productions! (This is our race, guys!)

Other places which may or may not be locations (I can't tell for sure if I completely understood the lady I talked to, but it's worth a look) are...

(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5286/thisplacejz5.jpg) this place... and

(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!

It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!

Neobie, I absolutely agree that Amazing Races are sometimes scheduled with two legs on back-to-back days, but I have never seen it three legs back-to-back. A possible answer is my friend the TBC, which hasn't been seen since AR6. With a TBC e nding the Phuket leg, there is no pit stop to slow teams from getting to Bangkok. Another possiblity beyone that is the split leg in 2 different places. That has been used recently, including in ARA3 with Bangkok plus chiang Mai, ARA2 where they did Hong Kong (what a farce), then New Zealand and ARA1 where the infamous Singapore Caltex task was sandwiched between departure from Auckland and arrival in Bangkok.

I think you meant AR 10. Just to clarify. :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: bag on January 15, 2009, 07:02:38 PM
Might have a reason why Pit Stop arrivals are so late in Guilin...

Post 223 by Nickasingh, from Sucks (http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/41155/t/TAR-14-Spoiler-Thread.html?page=12) (thanks hakushu8 for bringing it over!)

Had the incredible luck to connect in Bangkok for a couple of hours, and was able to gather that an "adventure company" was holding an event here at the Phayathai Palace on the 16th of November, and that the point of contact worked for... World Race Productions! (This is our race, guys!)

Other places which may or may not be locations (I can't tell for sure if I completely understood the lady I talked to, but it's worth a look) are...

(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5286/thisplacejz5.jpg) this place... and

(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!

It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!

Neobie, I absolutely agree that Amazing Races are sometimes scheduled with two legs on back-to-back days, but I have never seen it three legs back-to-back. A possible answer is my friend the TBC, which hasn't been seen since AR6. With a TBC e nding the Phuket leg, there is no pit stop to slow teams from getting to Bangkok. Another possiblity beyone that is the split leg in 2 different places. That has been used recently, including in ARA3 with Bangkok plus chiang Mai, ARA2 where they did Hong Kong (what a farce), then New Zealand and ARA1 where the infamous Singapore Caltex task was sandwiched between departure from Auckland and arrival in Bangkok.

I think you meant AR 10. Just to clarify. :tup:
There's a difference between a TBC and a 'superleg'. The TBC leg in TAR6 was in Hungary when teams went to an internet cafe to find a video message of Phil giving them their next clue, which turned into another leg. The actual 'superleg' concept where either Phil gives racers their next clue (7, 8(?), 9) or they find their next clue in a cluebox (10) wasn't used until season 7. So there is a possibility it could be either/or.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 15, 2009, 07:09:04 PM
Thank you, Hooky and bag, for your clarifiactions. The situation in question is the 9th leg of AR10 at the Helsinki Olympic Tower. I went back and looked at it. it ends with James/Tyler getting a Keep Racing! instruction. Is that a TBC or a superleg? I think it is probably both. I define TBCs whether the action is continuous and you go to a second leg without a pit stop. I don't have a definition for a superleg.

In any case, my memory which told me that there were no TBCs since AR6 was incorrect. I had remembered episode 9 as a double-sized leg, but it isn't. Thank you for the udpate.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: bag on January 15, 2009, 07:36:12 PM
Thank you, Hooky and bag, for your clarifiactions. The situation in question is the 9th leg of AR10 at the Helsinki Olympic Tower. I went back and looked at it. it ends with James/Tyler getting a Keep Racing! instruction. Is that a TBC or a superleg? I think it is probably both. I define TBCs whether the action is continuous and you go to a second leg without a pit stop. I don't have a definition for a superleg.

In any case, my memory which told me that there were no TBCs since AR6 was incorrect. I had remembered episode 9 as a double-sized leg, but it isn't. Thank you for the udpate.
I don't even really know after that what exactly is a TBC or a superleg.  :lol: But anyway, I don't think it'll be used because they haven't used it since season 10. If they haven't brought back the yield, I don't think they'll bring back TBCs, anyway, though again it would be nice.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 15, 2009, 07:48:00 PM
I too always saw them as the same thing...I now know. Yields changed to Speedbumps in Series 11-12 transaction didnt they??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: bag on January 15, 2009, 07:49:14 PM
I too always saw them as the same thing...I now know. Yields changed to Speedbumps in Series 11-12 transaction didnt they??
They changed to U-Turns, not speed bumps.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: hakushu8 on January 15, 2009, 08:22:22 PM
Good job and thanks, Neobie, for linking the Phayathai Palace flag with TAR14! I really had high hopes that it was a flag from the US version. But now I'm jealous that I didn't live in Bangkok/go there before you got the flag! :P

The sharing of info between this site and Sucks is what I've been doing most of the time now... since I really can't help out much with the researching as of present time. Or more like I dunno where to look.  :lol:

Now I'm just waiting for the cast to be revealed... very soon, yes?

Great job and keep up the good work, everyone!   :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on January 15, 2009, 08:26:32 PM
I'll guess that the cast release is on Wednesday
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 15, 2009, 08:31:39 PM
Yikes, forgot the attachment!

Here it is!

ETA: Amped up historical tags (including Temple of Dawn), by demand!
ETA: Full map!
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17788.0;attach=111314;image
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 15, 2009, 08:39:48 PM
Wed the 21st Michael?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kogs on January 15, 2009, 08:43:20 PM
Yikes, forgot the attachment!

Here it is!

hey wheres the temple of dawn from tar1?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 15, 2009, 09:23:34 PM
oh yeah I can remember that. Was it not on the map? I thought I saw it  :lol:  :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2009, 09:55:43 PM


(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2562/thatplaceie1.jpg) this place!

It's a huge rush getting from Phuket on the 15th, Bangkok on the 16th, to Guilin on the 17th - but it's possible, and the whole point of the race, isn't it? More info in the timetables thread!





Thanks for the hint Neobie  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 15, 2009, 10:16:58 PM
Nice, Puddin! And to all the detectives giving it a try! :tup:

It isn't exactly that building though; I was told something about the Vimanmek Teak Palace, in the same compound, but no photography is allowed inside?!

So I'm not exactly sure if TAR could have got their cameras in too! (A security guard seemed to remember filming in the compound though, the information desk - when I asked them - called up someone, then started pretending to not know anything...)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 15, 2009, 10:20:50 PM
Did you see or touch any monkeys Neobie? :monkey
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 15, 2009, 10:43:51 PM
SUAN HONG!!!  :hearts:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14BangkokSuanHong.png)

Vimanmek photo gallery: http://thailandforvisitors.com/central/bangkok/vimanmek/vmk_gal.html

MAP!
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014%20Maps/TAR14MapVimanmekMansion.png)
clickable link: http://thailandforvisitors.com/central/bangkok/vimanmek/map.html

Quote
The Vimanmek Mansion is often called the "King Rama V House" and is the world's largest golden teakwood mansion.


Interior layout:
http://www.bangkokmag.infothai.com/vimanmek3.htm

Inside:
http://www.bangkokmag.infothai.com/vimanmek4.htm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 07:43:15 PM
Amazing Race promo! Amazing Race promo! Right during halftime of the AFC Championship! Right after The Mentalist promo!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

Starting's line at the air tarmac where I believe Phil did the photo shoot. Plenty of stuff to go over. puddin? Birthday girl? Did you get this? I might do a quick recording and try to do some vidcaps.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on January 18, 2009, 07:44:12 PM
OMGG
i hope someone got it!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: redwings8831 on January 18, 2009, 07:44:35 PM
Amazing Race promo! Amazing Race promo! Right during halftime of the AFC Championship! Right after The Mentalist promo!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

Starting's line at the air tarmac where I believe Phil did the photo shoot. Plenty of stuff to go over. puddin? Birthday girl? Did you get this? I might do a quick recording and try to do some vidcaps.

I was just going to post this, but didn't know where to. I'm pretty sure I saw a bungee jump in the preview.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 07:47:12 PM
You did. I'm working on vidcaps.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 18, 2009, 07:50:55 PM
Waiting! Waiting! :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on January 18, 2009, 07:54:06 PM
!EXCITED!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:16:56 PM
Here we go. First batch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1401.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1402.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1403.jpg)

Announcer Boy: What makes The Amazing Race amazing?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:18:25 PM
Second batch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1404.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1405.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1406.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1407.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1408.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 18, 2009, 08:19:12 PM
I see Kris/Jon in Iceland, the Lost World in New Zealand, Jon Corso in Hawaii, Teri/Ian in Vietnam...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:19:50 PM
Third batch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1409.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1410.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1411.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1412.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:20:58 PM
Fourth batch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1413.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1414.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1415.jpg)
Phil: GO!!!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1416.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1417.jpg)
WOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:22:05 PM
Fifth batch.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1418.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1419.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1420.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1421.jpg)

Announcer Boy: It's two ordinary people at the Starting Line!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:23:15 PM
Sixth batch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1422.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1423.jpg)
Guy: I can't believe we just did that!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1424.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1425.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on January 18, 2009, 08:23:29 PM
omg....green teaaaaaaam
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:24:20 PM
Seventh batch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1426.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1427.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1428.jpg)
Announcer Boy: With nothing but the whole world in front of them.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1429.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1430.jpg)
Woman: Tears of joy, right?
Woman: Yeah, tears of joy.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:25:08 PM
Eighth and last batch

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1431.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/kzf1/TAR1432.jpg)
Announcer Boy: The Amazing Race returns February 15th.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 18, 2009, 08:27:29 PM
Thanks TARAsia Fan!

I think we see quite a few of our teams?

Auburn on the left end of Start Line
Oldish couple on the plane/helicopter
Asian man with girl
Blue and yellow guys
Green girls
Mom/son celebrating at night

And oh! Start line puddles!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 08:29:36 PM
Good job Ken! I'll see if I got it as well!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:33:29 PM
Thanks, puddin and neobie! I'll see if I can upload this.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 18, 2009, 08:36:38 PM
Can we confirm if it's Alamitos? I can't find the exact location on Google Earth... But Oct 31 for Los Alamitos had light rain from 4 to 6 in the morning. No rain the day before.

Don't miss the helicopter and the horses in the last frame! Entry by helicopter?

Looks like Mom and Son pull a departure time! Night of Nov 1, in Locarno?! Switzerland looks to be a single two-part leg, per tradition!

And that's the Verzasca Dam, I presume?

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5680648.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 08:44:58 PM
Got it! I'll see what I can get too ...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:45:48 PM
Excellent!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 08:49:35 PM
omg....green teaaaaaaam
No rooting! :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 18, 2009, 08:52:02 PM
Very possibly KSLI Los Alamitos. Compare the building and palm tree with this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/senoritafish/357526177/sizes/o/).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 08:54:55 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0012.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0013.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 08:56:49 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0014.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0015.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0016.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 09:02:34 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0018.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0022.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0019.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0023.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0020.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0021.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0024.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0025.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0026.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0027.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
My program could not get that shootaround clearly. I'm glad you could get that, puddin.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 09:04:31 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0029.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0030.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0031.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 18, 2009, 09:05:44 PM
So Sea Stallions are the entry vehicles. And they ride horses (or maybe that's contestant bio footage).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Neobie on January 18, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Swiss flag's a match for Verzasca!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2030/1923782308_f3e98a0e86.jpg)

So starting line's in front of the Los Alamitos control tower, eh?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 09:07:15 PM
My program could not get that shootaround clearly. I'm glad you could get that, puddin.
Oh no you did good Ken  :yess: :jumpy:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0033.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0034.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0035.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 09:07:47 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0036.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0037.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0038.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 09:10:56 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0039.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0040.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0041.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0042.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0043.jpg)


and I'll rewind .. and am now downloading powerdvd, its easier to handle/slowdown
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 09:13:24 PM
and I'll rewind ..
You're kind. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on January 18, 2009, 09:19:32 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0025.jpg)

LOL, they really are short, the men I mean, my babies in green tower over them.

AND PUDDIN, I SEE NO MIDGETS! HINT HINT.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: goodyingbadyang on January 18, 2009, 09:27:57 PM
Three fit-looking all-female teams, an young asian team, deaf contestant?
SIGN ME UP!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2009, 09:42:20 PM
Three fit-looking all-female teams, an young asian team, deaf contestant?
SIGN ME UP!

We have had the teams for ages, but SO nice to see their faces! And my favorite day is when we get to add names to their faces! :jumpy:

So :bigwelcome to any lurking contestants, we are excited for you!! :hearts:

Here is more on the trekking site that does the Versasca Dam bungee, as well as some bungee videos...

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg367578.html#msg367578
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 18, 2009, 09:49:47 PM
A different view of the tower area here (http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5963997&nseq=6). Good enough to call it, I think; futurecontestnat gets the credit.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2009, 09:53:51 PM
Nice one Slowhatch!!

And what are sea thingys and where are they in the screenshots please?? (I am on a different computer at work, so don't have my normal views)..
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 18, 2009, 10:03:10 PM
I can't see the helicopters on the airfield very close, but they look like Sea Stallions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-53_Sea_Stallion). And the couple kissing look like they're wearing the gear that might normally be used by crewmen/passengers in a military transport, which is why I'm guessing that the Sea Stallions are the entry vehicles.
Some smaller photos below (and I'm not sure about the horses).
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0043.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2009, 10:08:29 PM
Thank you Slowhatch, I was looking for a boat, :groan: :lol: !!

I still don't see a horse  :spy:, but one place we might possibly see a pony or horse could be Siberia....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 18, 2009, 10:10:19 PM
I cant tell if this is a team of "short men" or it is a "short couple." Michael, we may have two "short men" teams. This team (in camos???) is pretty dang short.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0021.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0025.jpg)

LOL, they really are short, the men I mean, my babies in green tower over them.

AND PUDDIN, I SEE NO MIDGETS! HINT HINT.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 18, 2009, 10:15:34 PM
Ms Peach,

The Sea Stallions are helicopters used by US Navy/Marines. The girls on the horses appear to me to be wearing tank tops....so doubt it is Siberia.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 10:20:34 PM
Our Mike and Mel White  :hearts:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0024.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 10:30:12 PM
most of the intro are old stuff already noted
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0000.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0001.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0003.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0004.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0055.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0051.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0052.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0053.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0056.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0060.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 18, 2009, 10:35:26 PM
It almost seems like TPTB cast this race to thwart the spoilers (us).

Two couples with blonde haired females and one FF team blonde. All the same shade of blonde.

Two short men teams.

Two tall women teams.

One of the shorter alpha male teams, the ones next to the tall redheads, appear to me, to be hispanic. Did the "Munoz" connection get ruled out?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 18, 2009, 10:37:23 PM
No. I am at a mates house and am so pleased (and angry for the timing) to see the teams

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 10:43:19 PM
It almost seems like TPTB cast this race to thwart the spoilers (us).

Two couples with blonde haired females and one FF team blonde. All the same shade of blonde.

Two short men teams.

Two tall women teams.

One of the shorter alpha male teams, the ones next to the tall redheads, appear to me, to be hispanic. Did the "Munoz" connection get ruled out?
No the Munoz brothers? have not been ruled out, we just don't have a photo of them that I know of, until maybe now?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2009, 10:44:17 PM
Beautiful, puddin!! :kuss: Is the video in our future?? :hearts:

Zipline? Is this old footage? ???

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1zip-1.png)

Horses! (finally, :lol: !) Could this be old? Didn't Dustin/Kandice ride in Mongolia?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1horses.png)

Neobie, could this be Guilin? Or maybe Interlaken lakes?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1maybeGuilin.png)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 10:49:08 PM
okay this is rough but is good to know now which software is not on my pc but can install it when I "remember" what I need , lol

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 18, 2009, 10:49:53 PM
cant wait to see the promo too love the photos but cant wait to see the promo  :yess:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on January 18, 2009, 10:54:51 PM
Cool you guys! We can see the faces, but why is there still no contestants article? Didn't the contestants come before the previews last season?

The teams look more competitive looking this time. Let's hope they don't make as many mistakes as last season! I'm excited!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 18, 2009, 10:57:24 PM
oops there it is.

I see ...

1. Preston and Jennifer
2. Blondes - Jodi and Chrissy
3. Brad and Vicky - Older Married Team
4. Spoiled Asian Team
5. Margaret and Luke - Mother/Son
6. Mike and Mark Munoz??
7. African American Ladies
8. Mel and Mike - Father/Son
9. Cute Blonde and Boyfriend??
10. Older man and younger man?? (what. another father/son)
11. Cute green team f/f dark haired
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 18, 2009, 10:59:28 PM
This promo was truly a surprise. Thank goodness I had the CBS halftime show on otherwise I would have changed the channel and missed it.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 18, 2009, 11:02:47 PM
I am so pleased. Well done guys  :hugs:. We could well have over half of the teams right here!!
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 18, 2009, 11:20:29 PM
This promo was truly a surprise. Thank goodness I had the CBS halftime show on otherwise I would have changed the channel and missed it.

You did a fabulous job, Ken!! Thank you!!! :hugs:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 18, 2009, 11:50:11 PM
This promo was truly a surprise. Thank goodness I had the CBS halftime show on otherwise I would have changed the channel and missed it.
I wasn't even paying attention Ken! Just recorded just incase. Thank you again!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 19, 2009, 12:26:13 AM
The building and the statue match the picture here (http://picasaweb.google.com/pkgoldberg/LocarnoSwitzerland2005#5061646773620062674) of piazza Sant' Antonio, which matches the SwissMiss spoiler back on page 1. Map here (http://www.planetware.com/map/locarno-map-ch-locarno.htm). It looks like they're holding a number; following-day departures, maybe?

 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017.jpg)
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Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 19, 2009, 01:16:47 AM
This promo was truly a surprise. Thank goodness I had the CBS halftime show on otherwise I would have changed the channel and missed it.
I wasn't even paying attention Ken! Just recorded just incase. Thank you again!!  :hearts:
The DVR is truly a great invention. I was able to rewind live TV, then record it to my DVD to do the vidcaps.  :jam: :jam: :jam: :yess: :yess: :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Chateau d If on January 19, 2009, 02:19:12 AM
Dang I missed this!

But I did see the new movie release Defiance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defiance_(2008_film)).  And I recognized that many of its scenes were filmed here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rum%C5%A1i%C5%A1k%C4%97s).

Kynt & Vyxsin will be pleased!
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Post by: apskip on January 19, 2009, 07:30:34 AM
Beautiful, puddin!! :kuss: Is the video in our future?? :hearts:

Zipline? Is this old footage? ???

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1zip-1.png)

Horses! (finally, :lol: !) Could this be old? Didn't Dustin/Kandice ride in Mongolia?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1horses.png)

Neobie, could this be Guilin? Or maybe Interlaken lakes?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14promo1maybeGuilin.png)

Peach, I would say that the lake being the Thuner See or Brienzer See on either side of Interlaken is probable. However, it could also be the Salzkammergut near Salzburg.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 19, 2009, 07:34:14 AM
Ken's screencaps of the helicopter (fist one is #274) remind me that somebody suggested Catalina Island as the starting point. I am inclined to agree with that assessment. It would be a remote beach not easily reached by tourists. Another possibility is nearby San Clemente Island. Santa Cruz Islands are a long wasy north, so I don't think it's them.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 19, 2009, 08:41:56 AM
The horseback riding could be associated with Gypsy tasks in Romainia......I didnt see any snow in the background, but it is a pretty tight shot, so that doesn't say much.

I think Peach's rotated zip line is actually the cave decent in TAR2 in New Zealand when they had to go down with a guide. There are three people in that shot. The detour that allowed Chris/Alex to pass Danny/Oswald in the cave at the bottom. Wasn't it called "Lost World?"
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 19, 2009, 10:27:29 AM
I am more excited with this season now that I see a train in it.  I also like seeing snow in a season! 
Go Asians!  It just brings me back to the old seasons...   :sucks
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 19, 2009, 10:45:03 AM
So Sea Stallions are the entry vehicles. And they ride horses (or maybe that's contestant bio footage).
I agree with Slowhatch, the horses could be contestant bio footage/B-Roll. Say for instance the blonds, Jodi and friend are from Texas so maybe thats it. The so called zipline looks like an ascender to me, maybe season 5 or 10, Vietnam or El Nido, Palawan.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on January 19, 2009, 10:52:34 AM
Clearly, it's always going to start from LA now, but does anybody know why? Because I see no reason for it. :groan: (:;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 19, 2009, 11:02:43 AM
^^ Budget reasons I suppose? The tight purse strings and all ..........
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kogs on January 19, 2009, 11:35:02 AM
^^ Budget reasons I suppose? The tight purse strings and all ..........

tax breaks too
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 19, 2009, 02:19:30 PM

This probably doesn't need to said but the starting line is definitely Los Alamitos Base.  In the screenshot of Phil saying "Go!" the building right behind him matches with the building on the base in the picture below.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/losAl-1.jpg)




(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0008.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 19, 2009, 03:50:11 PM
I don't see any other probability. It has been spec for some time now that TAR 14 will begin at the Los Alamitos Air Base...These other suggestions are good but anon1akacolby has pretty much solidified the spec now!  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on January 19, 2009, 04:20:34 PM
I think I'm going to love this season!  I've got an abundance of teams to root for -- a nice change from some seasons!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 19, 2009, 04:34:24 PM
I do think that the vertical zipline is the Lost World from AR2. I don't think it is either of the ascending tasks, because both of those tasks were held during the day and it was very bright, whereas this image is more enclosed, like the AR2 task.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 19, 2009, 04:39:59 PM

This probably doesn't need to said but the starting line is definitely Los Alamitos Base.  In the screenshot of Phil saying "Go!" the building right behind him matches with the building on the base in the picture below.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/losAl-1.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/th_rff-0008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0008.jpg)

Thank you colby! :hugs:

I think with the lovely shots from you and from Slowhatch earlier, there is no doubt at all!

Very possibly KSLI Los Alamitos. Compare the building and palm tree with this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/senoritafish/357526177/sizes/o/).

A different view of the tower area here (http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5963997&nseq=6). Good enough to call it, I think; futurecontestnat gets the credit.

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Post by: hakushu8 on January 19, 2009, 05:11:12 PM
Like I mentioned in the contestant thread, I believe that the train ride is when they go to Siberia. It could be anywhere else, but that's what I thought of immediately.

BTW, thanks for the pics and vidcaps, puddin and TAfan.  :sucks
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 19, 2009, 05:15:10 PM
I was thinking that may be the train we know they take in Switzerland, hakushu?  But oh yeah, I am really hoping for the Trans-Siberian Express too! :hugs:


Hmmm...now you have made me think! This could be Siberia, couldn't it? :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 19, 2009, 05:35:29 PM
Isn't it speculated they took trains in Romania too.......it might be there. But sure seems we are going to see some trains this race........hoorayyyyy!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 19, 2009, 05:58:50 PM
Chooo-Chooo  :lol:  :yess: I can't wait for less airports...It's more like a true roadtrip  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 19, 2009, 06:48:24 PM
It's was so nice in the old seasons when they drove 300+ miles.  Hopefully we'll see some of that this season too!

:camping:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 19, 2009, 07:46:46 PM
 :jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope  :wohoo:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 19, 2009, 09:01:54 PM
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope  :wohoo:

Sorry kiwi!

Cast Release is going to be on Monday, Jan 26.  ;) :angel:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 19, 2009, 09:09:28 PM
This week, the networks are focusing on Obama's inauguration so no TAR announcements.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 19, 2009, 10:08:41 PM
So 1 week away.  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 19, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope  :wohoo:

Sorry kiwi!

Cast Release is going to be on Monday, Jan 26.  ;) :angel:

WOW!

They picked Australia Day!

This is surely a sign that CBS will make an Australian edition!

(Well, I can dream, cant I?)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: michael on January 19, 2009, 10:16:48 PM
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope  :wohoo:

Sorry kiwi!

Cast Release is going to be on Monday, Jan 26.  ;) :angel:

WOW!

They picked Australia Day!

This is surely a sign that CBS will make an Australian edition!

(Well, I can dream, cant I?)

maybe it's a sign that we'll finally get to see these midgets!  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 19, 2009, 10:20:35 PM
Isn't it speculated they took trains in Romania too.......it might be there. But sure seems we are going to see some trains this race........hoorayyyyy!!!
Dr. Rox, it's a nice thought. The train route in Romania has mountains but only one small passage along a lake. As others(including me) have said the railway line shown could be the Trans-Siberian Express, which is a high probability when teams are in Siberia as it is one of the few reliable means of transportation(although it limits you to cities on that line). However, my best guess is still Switzerland, home of alps and many fabulous train routes. I got to ride many of them using a 8 day Swiss rail pass and know the diversity of possilbilities, with the line from Domodossola to Interlaken the most likely.
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 19, 2009, 10:46:23 PM
That's my guess as well: they emphasize the first ep during the promos. So maybe the Interlaken-Domodossola run or the FART (http://www.centovalli.ch/index_e.htm) train (Ferrovie
Autolinee Regionali Ticinesi) between Domodossola and Locarno.   
On the topic of trains, a map for Peach: live swiss trains (http://www.swisstrains.ch/); as I write this, ICE 987 is approaching Interlaken West.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 19, 2009, 10:57:22 PM
:hearts: That has to be the coolest program ever! Two of my favorite things, trains and MAPS! :ty3:

Guess this means I better get to work on the new MAP thread, huh? :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 19, 2009, 11:03:39 PM
:hearts: That has to be the coolest program ever! Two of my favorite things, trains and MAPS! :ty3:

Guess this means I better get to work on the new MAP thread, huh? :funny:
What? No FART love?  :umn:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 20, 2009, 01:46:12 AM
:jam: Hope so too...Cast release in 2 days we hope  :wohoo:

Sorry kiwi!

Cast Release is going to be on Monday, Jan 26.  ;) :angel:

WOW!

They picked Australia Day!

This is surely a sign that CBS will make an Australian edition!

(Well, I can dream, cant I?)

If they don't make an Australian edition, I will! :sucks
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 20, 2009, 08:03:38 AM
You must. And I will win all the legs.

Anyway. HURRY UP CBS! I WANT TO PUT IN MY PREDICTIONS!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Hooky on January 20, 2009, 12:11:45 PM
Whoever said that the cast release is on the 26th, do we have proof of that or were you speculating? That is too late compared with all but one of the recent seasons cast releases.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 20, 2009, 12:19:44 PM
That would be me, Hooky.

And I am trusting the source on this, it appears to be quite reliable.  :angel:

I agree it is quite late though.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: gingerman28 on January 20, 2009, 12:58:46 PM
Isn't it speculated they took trains in Romania too.......it might be there. But sure seems we are going to see some trains this race........hoorayyyyy!!!
Dr. Rox, it's a nice thought. The train route in Romania has mountains but only one small passage along a lake. As others(including me) have said the railway line shown could be the Trans-Siberian Express, which is a high probability when teams are in Siberia as it is one of the few reliable means of transportation(although it limits you to cities on that line). However, my best guess is still Switzerland, home of alps and many fabulous train routes. I got to ride many of them using a 8 day Swiss rail pass and know the diversity of possilbilities, with the line from Domodossola to Interlaken the most likely.

I can't pin it down, but I suspect that the train is in Switzerland, as pointed out by apskip, mainly because most of the preview scenes are from the first or second ep.  The pair of guys looking out of the window of the train seem to be the same pair as seen in the team lineup (second from the right next to the gals in green).  I doubt that the producers would want to show one team making it Siberia, and that far into the series.  The  only thing that bothers me is that the train cars are all silver.  Most Swiss train have a good deal of color, mostly red, decorating the outside of the rail cars.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: gingerman28 on January 20, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
New information seems to indicate that the train seen here is not a Swiss train.  Perhaps an Italian train.

See all the views in the attached:

http://www.myswissalps.com/graubunden/graubunden-pictures.asp?lang=EN
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 20, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
that makes sense Gman!

from Nijjy
Quote
We were on a train on Nov 2 to Spiez, Switzerland (and then transferring to
another train to Interlaken) when flocks of cameras and people got on in
Domodossola, Italy

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg360511.html#msg360511
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 20, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
that makes sense Gman!

from Nijjy
Quote
We were on a train on Nov 2 to Spiez, Switzerland (and then transferring to
another train to Interlaken) when flocks of cameras and people got on in
Domodossola, Italy

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg360511.html#msg360511
I now know more about Italian trains than is healthy...
I believe the train where our little people are risking their necks is this train, that according to the website http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix_frameset.html (http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix_frameset.html) is used on the Domodossola - Milan run.

Looks like it to me anyways.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 20, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
I have investigated EuroStar, InterCity and Eurocity trains and the equipment used on them is much more modern than what we appear to see in the train screencap. I do agree with GMan and others that it is likely to be an Italian train. I don't know how international trains originating in Switzerland are handled, but since this run originates in Domodossola Italy, it is entirely appropriate to have Italian trains used.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 21, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
Domodossola is a bit of a puzzle. Nijjy writes that they were on the Milan-Spiez run (the Cisalpino (http://cisalpino.com/go/Destinations), perhaps) when teams got on at Domodossola. Since the rail lines at Domodossola form a simple T-junction, that means either: there were tasks in the local area; or they were transferring from the FART. The trouble with the latter is that the FART is slow thing, taking nearly two hours to make the short trip from Locarno; it's more of a scenic/tourist RR than an actual transport alternative. The routing engines I've tried, when asked to create a route from Locarno to Interlaken, all use the Bellinzona-Lucerne-Interlaken route.

Also: if you want to ride the FART (Locarno-Domodossola in about a minute), it's here (http://flickr.com/photos/hurtubia/2950481736/), but there's nothing that matches the Munoz rail cap. Since the Cisalpino uses silver/gray (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lastarial/3181648027/), that's where my chips will go for now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 21, 2009, 03:21:59 PM
Nice work Slowhatch  :jam:

hey so I finally have the football promo youtubed  :lol: :-[

 
click the video twice to get the "watch in high quality" option
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 22, 2009, 04:35:27 PM
The helmets on the middle-aged man and woman look like Soviet era cosmonaut headgear. However, the only training facility I can find in russia is the cosmonaut training program in Star City, a suburb of Russia. I doubt that AR14 went there.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
The helmets on the middle-aged man and woman look like Soviet era cosmonaut headgear. However, the only training facility I can find in russia is the cosmonaut training program in Star City, a suburb of Russia. I doubt that AR14 went there.

Couldn't that maybe just be in the helicopters we think they fly in on? I doubt we would get much other than Intro or first leg footage here...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 22, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
Just me speculating, but I'm going to predict that CSI is going to have a new Amazing Race promo. It is CBS' number one show so I hope we're all rolling just in case. :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 22, 2009, 05:26:58 PM
Is CSI tonight!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 22, 2009, 08:15:07 PM
Yup!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: woden on January 23, 2009, 09:33:09 AM
I can't remember if we had nailed down the Siberia location or not, but the eBay pictures of Bonnie Hunt's mat show the mat's carrying case with a Krasnoyarsk airport tag.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 09:35:37 AM
The pic isn't showing for me, but OMGosh THAT is a good eye!!  :wohoo: :jumpy:  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 23, 2009, 09:37:07 AM
Killer spot!

*Bows down to sheer dedication and awesomness*
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: woden on January 23, 2009, 09:38:26 AM
Sorry, I screwed up the image link at first -- working now?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 10:17:27 AM
Sorry, I screwed up the image link at first -- working now?

:yess: awesome job! And I have been drooling over that mat for days, :lol3:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Coutzy on January 23, 2009, 10:18:57 AM
They'd probably fetch more for the mat if they sold in on RFF.com

And then the proceeds could go to maintaining the server!

*TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE FIVE*
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 10:52:03 AM
I can't remember if we had nailed down the Siberia location or not, but the eBay pictures of Bonnie Hunt's mat show the mat's carrying case with a Krasnoyarsk airport tag.
Eagle eye! Great catch mwooden!  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
Phil and Bertram are just going to shake their head and smile when they see this.....lol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
I love this!!  TAR detecting at it's best!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 12:45:58 PM
Here is the LINK  (http://cgi.ebay.com/Amazing-Race-Mat-Signed-by-Phil-Keoghan_W0QQitemZ230319761859QQihZ013QQcategoryZ18839QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting) to the pictures, and here is this too in case it helps. (embedding so this treasure is never lost, lol!)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14MatBag.png)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14MatBag2.png)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 23, 2009, 01:08:50 PM
Here is the LINK  (http://cgi.ebay.com/Amazing-Race-Mat-Signed-by-Phil-Keoghan_W0QQitemZ230319761859QQihZ013QQcategoryZ18839QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting) to the pictures, and here is this too in case it helps. (embedding so this treasure is never lost, lol!)


Interesting - the mat traveled on Air China 983 on November 22. AC 983 is a direct flight from Beijing to Los Angeles. Do they use 2 mats (an understudy  ;D ) ?
Because this mat should have been in Hawaii for the finale on Nov 22 - unless the Hawaii speculation is wrong...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: woden on January 23, 2009, 01:19:47 PM
They use the giant mat for the finale.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2009, 01:20:19 PM
walkingpneumonia,

I have always assumed that there is a mat for each pit stop. Then the advance teams can have it ready and nobody has to worry about the making sure it makes a flight. The cost of 11 mats vs. 1 cannot  be huge.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
The pic is a little blurry, but I actually thought the tag read 11/27...

no, looks like 11/22!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 01:23:24 PM
It could be said that this is not the finale mat, they use that large one at the finishine. I hardly think they had time to have a regular "pitstop" in Hawaii. Perhaps they just sent the regular pitstop mat ahead? ..to LAX.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 01:23:51 PM
They use the giant mat for the finale.
GMTA  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: woden on January 23, 2009, 01:30:29 PM
Jinx!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 23, 2009, 01:59:40 PM
It could be said that this is not the finale mat, they use that large one at the finishine. I hardly think they had time to have a regular "pitstop" in Hawaii. Perhaps they just sent the regular pitstop mat ahead? ..to LAX.

OK, never mind...

So this would be the Traveling Matt ?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2009, 02:56:07 PM
In my post of several weeks ago in a dialogue with walkingpneumonia, he identified S7859 OVB BKK 0205 1005 and I identified BKK HKT TG1205 1030 1150 as a route to fly from Novosibirsk to Phuket arriving the morning of Sat. Nov. 15. It has been my stated belief that teams would travel on the fabled TransSiberian Express railway (why else other than Lake Baikal would one want to go to Siberia?). There are only a few major stops on it, with Novosibirsk being one. Kransojarsk is on the line (as the 3rd largest city in Siberia it was designed in when decisions were made where it would go). The question is "would a trip from Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk arriving Novosibirsk the afternoon of Nov. 15 make sense?" Trains go east and west. A logical stoping point for AR14 if starting in Krasnojarsk is Novosibirsk westbound. A logical stopping point eastbound is Irkutsk.

Here is the schedule from Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk on a weekday (Thursday actually):

Dep.Kr  Arr.No Duration
00:57  14:09  13:12    
02:01  17:27  15:26  
04:10  16:01  11:51    
05:59  20:06  14:07  
06:52  18:51  11:59  
07:18   22:52  15:34    
08:05   21:24  13:19    
10:09   23:55  13:46    
10:36   23:12  12:36    
11:16   00:58  13:42    
12:36   01:12  12:36    
13:51   02:24  12:33    
14:37   04:19  13:42    
15:27   04:33  13:06    
18:26   06:47  12:21    
23:36   12:38  13:02  

The similar schedules for Krasnoyarsk to Irkutsk are:
04:03  21:44  17:41    
05:21  06:13  24:52  
06:56  01:18  18:22  
07:45  01:03  17:18  
08:54  03:19  18:25  
09:16  03:28  18:12  
10:28  04:07  17:39  
11:52  05:34  17:42  
18:10  18:35  24:25  
19:16  13:00  17:44  
20:55  14:40  17:45  

The next question I have to ask is "could teams have flown from Krasnojarsk to Novosibirsk?" The answer is probably not. There are no nonstop flights on the appropriate days of the week (Friday). Connecting flights are possible but for a relatively short distance of 762 km one flight combination takes 8 hours through Irkutsk and all the rest take 11 hours through Moscow.

The next logical question is "can we accommodate  Phil being in Delhi early on the morning of Nov. 14?" My guess is that he has a 36 hour lead due to an extended rest stop. So what would that allow him to do? One possibility is to get to Moscow(to be addressed below) on Nov. 14 in time for SU555 SVO DEL 1850 0330+1, connecting with DEL BKK TG724 1155 1725 and then with BKK HKT TG223 1820 1940. To do this he must have been unable to get the Moscow to Bangkok nonstop flight SU553 on Nov. 14, which should have been his first choice but could have been full. The next question is how Phil could get to Moscow-Sheremetyevo for these connections. Here are the possibilities that fit(although all have long connect times in Moscow):

Best is Irkutsk IKT SVO SU748 1400 1525
Novosibirsk    OVB SVO 5N808 1055 1210
Krasnojarsk    KJA  SVO SU782 1040 1145

We don't know for sure that teams were on the TransSiberian Express but it makes good sense. For them to fly into Krasnojarsk makes good sense, but it could also have been Irkutsk or Novosibirsk. Which way they traveled on the TransSiberian Express is not known yet. Which city they flew out of is also not clear at this point.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 23, 2009, 04:27:04 PM
Following up on the possibilities that Krasnoyarsk presents, here are a few salient facts about the city of 900,000+ population and surrounding region:

1. It is a major port on the Yenisei River, the major south to north river in central Siberia emptying into the Arctic Sea. Due to the Krasnoyarsk hydroelectric dam 32 kilometers upstream, the Yenisei never freezes in winter and never exceeds 14 °C (57.2 °F) in summer temperature through the city.

2. It is a major stop on the TransSiberian Railway

3. The most popular place of attraction for tourists visiting Krasnojarsk is the huge national nature reserve Stolby (Pillars in Russian) or the Rock Pillars. Stolby covers an area of 181 square miles with numerous giant granite rocks formations up to 100 meters high, many of very extraordinary shapes. Stolby is also a major rock climbing location, many local climbers intentionally do not use any belaying equipment and call their extreme sport "stolbizm", which is known around the world as solo climbing.


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2009, 04:35:03 PM
Well, we do know from TAR13 that WRP uses two production teams, that flip-flop during the race. It makes sense that each production team would have a pit stop mat. When the production team in Bejing was finished, they would have shipped their equipment back to Los Angeles.

Btw, just a tremendous bit of detective work mwooden!!!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on January 23, 2009, 05:41:17 PM
It could be said that this is not the finale mat, they use that large one at the finishine. I hardly think they had time to have a regular "pitstop" in Hawaii. Perhaps they just sent the regular pitstop mat ahead? ..to LAX.

OK, never mind...

So this would be the Traveling Matt ?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!   :funny:

I loved Fraggle Rock!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 08:09:16 PM
extended commercial

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 08:13:02 PM
 :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo:

:popcorn:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 23, 2009, 08:33:23 PM
Thanks, Puddin  :waves:. Assuming they're still on the first ep, there are a few Interlaken paragliding companies (see the bottom of this pdf (https://www.verein-web.ch/docs/084f35043a82df98a1aeea68da278b82/07_paragliding-en.pdf)), and one, TwinParagliding (http://www.twinparagliding.com/en_goodtoknow.html#), that specializes in tandem flights for noobs.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 08:54:54 PM
Video



 

or option below that I just noticed for a higher quality video, lol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 09:07:04 PM
thanks puddin and Slowhatch!

gosh they get to do helicopters, bungee, and a tandem jump all right off the bat?? Yippee! Maybe they are picking the tasks up a notch this season! Looks like fun to me!

 :chute:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 09:07:30 PM
Thanks to Gman!!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/th_DSC_0449.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/misc/DSC_0449.jpg)5 Interlaken - Paras landing
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 09:13:18 PM
OoHHH  Go here:

http://www.twinparagliding.com/en_theflightoffer.html#

click on the panoramamap--neat! Choose our spot, lol!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 09:28:37 PM
*wonders where the map thread is?* I hate re posting a map that might already have been posted, especially since Slowhatch is light years ahead of us :lol:

Interactive search + locate (http://gis2.begasoft.ch/gis/pages/ch.bgs.googlegis.gwt.GMap/interlaken.jsf?lang=en&jumpBoxIndex=0)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
ummm...haven't started one yet! Just stick em all here and I'll troll them out in awhile...


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 23, 2009, 09:37:33 PM
GeoHack is usually a good start. Dial up a place--Interlaken, for example--in Wikipedia. You'll notice a lat-long in the right sidebar. Click on it to bring up GeoHack. Global mapping on the left, local stuff on the right. Sometimes local mapping solutions are of poor quality or nonexistent, but Switzerland (http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Interlaken&params=46_41_N_7_51_E_region:CH-BE_type:city(5700)) has plenty to choose from.

As far as the paragliding goes, I've found two databases: Paragliding Earth (http://www.paraglidingearth.com/en-html/index.php?region=863) and the Swiss database Flyland (http://www.flyland.ch./start.htm?Sprache=E).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 09:55:05 PM
oh boy, a new toy! Can you get there thru a geohack+city/place port too?? Can't seem to it do it...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 10:20:58 PM
incoming

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0015-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0016-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 10:27:52 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0023-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0022-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0035-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0034-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0033-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0032.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0031-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 10:29:03 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0025-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0026-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0027-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0028.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 23, 2009, 10:35:05 PM
This is looking like a great first leg!
 :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 10:36:08 PM
Could this be off the coast of California? Maybe are they helicoptering in off the coast on the way to Los Alamitos? ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 23, 2009, 10:38:41 PM
Could this be off the coast of California? Maybe are they helicoptering in off the coast on the way to Los Alamitos? ???

They will probably ride army helicopters to the starting line. I don't think they are skydiving there however.  The mountains aren't really that tall looking.  The helicopters also look different in both the pictures.
 ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 10:43:13 PM
when ready!

 << HQuality toggle
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2009, 10:49:42 PM
Could this be off the coast of California? Maybe are they helicoptering in off the coast on the way to Los Alamitos? ???

I think you hit the nail right on the head Peach. Similiar to All Stars, where you guys found the assembly point on that tiny island and then they rode the cigarette boats to the start line. I think in TAR14, they assemble someplace and then ride the Navy/Marine helicopters up the coast to the start line at the Los Alamitos Airfield.

Btw, all the helicopters are the same Navy/Marine Sea Stallions.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 10:56:57 PM
I think TAR7 did it the same way ....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7VfMDfYmFY
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2009, 10:58:59 PM
I'm not sure but the coastline looks very similiar. Look here and see what y'all think? NOT saying Catalina, but looks similiar and you can click on some of the other aerials around the area. (look in the upper righthand corner)

http://www.airviews.com/catalinaPage/catalina2.html

Plus remember BVM said they do a "death defying task" right off the bat? That's been bugging me, leg 2 isn't right off the bat...

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2009, 11:01:27 PM
Pretty close Pudding. I think in TAR7, they assembled at Los Alamitos Airfield and helicoptered over to that park next to the Queen Mary for the start line, if I am not mistaken.  In that one they used Army Blackhawk helicopters.

Using Los Alamitos, gives TPTB some added security in that the normal public will not have access to the starting line.

Peach, that is the coast line of California going south from Los Angeles toward San Diego.....Orange County, etc. Though it is a little far down the coast, the Marines have a base at Camp Pendleton in Oceanside and the Navy has big airbase at Miramar that could be assembly points for those Sea Stallions to take off from,. Remember in the early days, it was speculated that start was in San Diego. It could be that the assembly point for the racers were on one of those military bases. Again the military base gives them security from the public. But they could land and take off those helicopters just from just about any airport in the area or even a golf course. Those shots of the helicopters in the promo are flying south to north up the California coastline, ie, from the direction of San Diego to Los Angeles.

I was thinking that death defying stunt was the bungee off the dam, their first morning in Europe.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
TAR7 was Edwards AFB in California fwiw
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2009, 11:28:29 PM
Thanks puddin, I had always heard it was Los Alamitos and since I have been here, I never went back to TAR 7 to look at the archives. But is isnt really any farther from Edwards AFB to Long Beach as it is from Camp Pendelton Marine Base to Los Alamitos.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 11:39:17 PM


I was thinking that death defying stunt was the bungee off the dam, their first morning in Europe.
Agreed, the heli is for filming the action/bungee only

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0031-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0013.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 23, 2009, 11:43:50 PM
??? I'm confused. Where does Edwards come in? The Bell helos in TAR7 flew around the Palos Verdes peninsula, and the promo caps look similar (compare with the Portuguese Bend (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw-jets/2133060732/) area). But I haven't seen an assembly point. Producers like to drop the racers out of the sky, then show the bio clips.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 23, 2009, 11:47:02 PM
There was a spoiler back in TAR7 that the race had started at Edwards AFB, here  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,3678.0.html) Slowhatch.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 24, 2009, 12:10:26 AM
In TAR7, the helicopters flew north to south along the California coast to Long Beach, which makes sense if they were coming from Edwards.

But in the promos from TAR14, it appears to me that the helicopters are flying south to north along the coast in the area down by Laguna Beach and Dana Point and areas south of there. Thats all I am saying. 

In looking at Google Earth, it is probably half as far from Camp Pendleton in Oceanside to Los Alamitos as it is from Edwards AFB to Long Beach. Those helicopters have MARINES on the side and Pendleton is a Marine Base.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 24, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
Here's my thinking on this:
1. The views of an island have to be Santa Catalina Island(aka Catalina), which is off the coast of California about 30 miles. Here is: Catalina Island Map (http://www.catalinachamber.com/pdf/Catalina_Map_NEW.pdf)

2. The key issue is not where the helicopers come from, but where the teams embark from.
3. Choices for embarkation point include the military base where the helicopters originate(Los Alamitos, El Toro or San Clemente Island military base airports); a private high-speed boat to take the teams from somewhere on the nearby coast to Avalon or Two Villages(only villages on Santa Catalina); or commercial high-speed catamaran lines that go from  the Long Beach/Queen Mary/Dana Point and from Marina Del Rey area (near Los Angeles International Airport) to Avalon and Two Villages, or from Newport Beach by high-speed catamaran to Avalon or by flying into any Catalina heiport from Long Beach or San Pedro on commercial flights.
4. So here is a scenario which works:
a. Helicopters orginate from Los Alamitos and fly to a heliport(there are two I have found, one called Avaon Bay and the other nearer to Two Villages is Avalo Vor/WP) on Catalina where teams are waiting.
b. Teams could arrive by any of the methods discussed above.
c. Teams could do their death-defying stunt somewhere over the ocean.
d. Then there is the option of taking teams to the mainland on the military helicopters or commercial helicopters or putting them on the catamaran to Marina Del Rey or flying them back on a commercial helicopter. I like the catamaran to Marina del Rey option best here.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 24, 2009, 09:28:57 AM
Oh.... Now I get it!  So the helicopter in the background of the bungee is just a bad mistake by the producers...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Chateau d If on January 24, 2009, 04:49:15 PM
This picture was taken here at Point Fermin.  Panoramio1 (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4687094)  Panoramio2 (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4602677)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017-1.jpg)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/4687094.jpg)

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/4602677.jpg)

At least that is my vote!   :snicker:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 24, 2009, 05:25:55 PM
Nice job, Chateau!! :jumpy:

So on the way from________ to Los Alamitos?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 24, 2009, 07:42:08 PM
I agree with Chateau, that picture looks like the coastline along San Pedro and Palos Verdes. 



Quote
Nice job, Chateau!!

So on the way from________ to Los Alamitos?


San Pedro is in the opposite direction of Los Alamitos base.    I haven't seen the clip yet but if the coast in shown and the helicopter is moving left to right of the screen then yes they are flying to Los Al.  If the clip shows them flying toward that area then I don't know where they are flying.   :lol:  that would be up the rest of the LA coast toward LAX, Santa Monica, etc.

Of course if they are flying from Catalina island would mean that they may see that part of the San Pedro coast even though it is a little bit more north.  they could do sort of a fly by.  It would be to the left of them.



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/coastline.jpg)


Here's an overview showing Catalina and the coast from San Predro down to Orange County.  I marked the location Los Al base and the San Pedro coast which we suspect the picture is of. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/coastline2.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 24, 2009, 07:50:37 PM
Thanks Colby! That's a help! :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 24, 2009, 07:53:00 PM
I took a look at the latest clip and I'm leaning toward they contestants loading up onto the helicopters in San Diego and flying up the coast. Perhaps the clip of the San Pedro coastline could just be extra footage they shot.  

Or as they flew up the coast, they looped out toward the ocean  when they got near Huntington beach and looped back in  and flew over Seal Beach toward Los Alamitos base.  That could explain how a camera would get that direct shot of the San Pedro coastline a shown in the clip.  
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 24, 2009, 08:04:30 PM
Or maybe they just did a circuit Los Alamitos>>Los Alamitos :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 24, 2009, 08:24:07 PM
Quote
Or maybe they just did a circuit Los Alamitos>>Los Alamitos


 :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 25, 2009, 01:38:39 AM
Quote
Or maybe they just did a circuit Los Alamitos>>Los Alamitos  :lol:
It's possible, even probable. Entry vehicles have been used in the past for show, rather than actual transport; there's no reason this season shouldn't be any different than TAR7 (if you look closely at the Queen Mary footage, you'll see most of the teams jumping out of the same helo).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 25, 2009, 01:48:26 AM
I've taken a few "flights" on the paragliding sim trying to match the cap below. (It's a fun time-waster; go here (http://www.paraglidingearth.com/en-html/index.php?region=863), click on a particular field, and choose "Fly on this site," which opens the GE flight sim). The trouble is, it looks too flat to be Interlaken (or Locarno, for that matter). (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0023-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2009, 02:02:45 AM
Fun!

But I can't figure out why we would have a paraglide AND a bungee all at the same time? COULD this be in CA? :o
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 02:04:58 AM
I don't think so. I would lean towards Paragliding being a Detour Choice and bungee jumping being either a detour choice or an additional task  :yess:
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 02:22:13 AM
Take a look at possible Paragliding spots with Google Maps or Earth etc...Al Fiume offers Paragliding and so does another place I dont wish to say!  :neener:
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Post by: puddin on January 25, 2009, 02:23:38 AM
I don't think so. I would lean towards Paragliding being a Detour Choice and bungee jumping being either a detour choice or an additional task  :yess:
I agree, clearly the Bungee is a Roadblock, red clue card, and the gliding looks like a duo of racers.
I was imagining Slowhatch and I Paragliding in Interlaken together :lol:, I was the one with the red chute!
.....ETA: and it was a blast!
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 02:27:15 AM
But Victor of Tamara and Victor says I cant believe WE did that heading away from the bungee! Is it he who we see with the clue puddin?
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 02:29:32 AM
And looky here! Madonna del Sasso could be the town seen in the paragliding photo though I doubt it and the paragliding company could be that of Cardada Impianti Turistici SA www.paragliding-ticino.ch. What do yall think. I dont think so but just puttin my 2 cents in  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 25, 2009, 07:25:33 AM
If it is fermin Point, then how about a helicopter flight from catalina to LAX? That would go right by it.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2009, 09:01:23 AM
But we KNOW the teams depart from Los Alamitos....
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Post by: Chateau d If on January 25, 2009, 12:02:14 PM
One more thing about this shot is that if it is Fermin Point then it was taken really late in the day.  Something like 2 to 3 pm.  Too late for a typical TAR start time.

This shot was taken between 2:14 and 2:53 pm (assumes October 31st)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017-1.jpg)
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 01:43:04 PM
Might be an after-shot because as you say 2-3 pm is way too late for a start.
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Post by: DrRox on January 25, 2009, 02:43:33 PM
One more thing about this shot is that if it is Fermin Point then it was taken really late in the day.  Something like 2 to 3 pm.  Too late for a typical TAR start time.

This shot was taken between 2:14 and 2:53 pm (assumes October 31st)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017-1.jpg)

Chateau d, I am going to respectfully disagree with your determination that this is Pt. Fermin. Where is the lighthouse on the end of the point? Where are the trees that are right behind the lighthouse? And most of all, where are all the houses that are across the street from the lighthouse? The housing density does not compare to Pt. Fermin and San Pedro. This is a very barren promontory of land. Also, if this is Pt. Fermin, where is the jetty that protects the harbor of Long Beach?

What is the promontory in the background? There is nothing that close to Pt Fermin to the north or west, till you get to the old Marineland. I thought at first maybe this was Pt Vincente, the far promontory, in Palos Verdes. So I tried to figure out where the helicopter had to be to make the shot and I couldn't get any reasonable angle.

To me, the lack of housing density just precludes this to be Pt. Fermin or anywhere UP the coast from there. If you look at that Google Earth shot you posted, it is full of houses.

One other question I have, is the two Sea Stallon helicopters in the promo. That helicopter will hold 37 fully geared up marines. Without gear, it will hold 55 people. Even if all 11 teams and their camera crews were onboard....one helicopter would be enough. If it wasn't for the picture of the one team, in  helicopter gear, I would almost think it was stock footage of flying helicopters. Now that you put a time of day on it, it makes even less sense. If in fact it is some place farther south or east down the coast or on Catalina Island, the time of the photo wouldn't vary all that much. I would think at that time of day, teams should be at the airport or maybe even in the air already on the way to Europe. I haven't gone back to check on Apskip's flight timetables from LAX, but sure seems to late in the day to be flying around in helicopters to me.

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Post by: Boingo on January 25, 2009, 05:38:20 PM
 :snicker:  Good eye, DrRox.   Keep lookin' guys.   :angel:
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 05:52:32 PM
They do look the exact same though. WOW!
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Post by: Chateau d If on January 25, 2009, 05:57:31 PM


Here is the GE tilted view that tries to match:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017-1.jpg)

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Post by: puddin on January 25, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
I think Chateau has it right, its just a sh!tty video and I'll try to get a better one, I am working out some HD bugs as I type this.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 25, 2009, 06:50:39 PM
I don't want to be a pest about this but it really is the Portuguese bend area. First, if you back up the sequence to the first frame you can see the second promontory (called Inspiration Point). Second, compare three things:
Also, I drive by the area at least once a week.  :-[
Since the producers seem stuck on SoCal, two hi-res resources you can bookmark are the Coastal Records Project (http://www.californiacoastline.org/) and SoCal Aerial Photography (http://www.cnsm.csulb.edu/departments/geology/people/bperry/AerialPhotosSoCal/AerialPhotographyIndexMapPage.htm) from the Geology dept. at CSULB (which provided the source photo (http://www.cnsm.csulb.edu/departments/geology/people/bperry/GrantPhotos/CatalinaFeb06/090CloseViewPortAndInspirPointsFeb06L.jpg)).
What does it mean? I still think it means zip, just a pretty section of coastline they wanted to shoot to help give the illusion that teams are actually transported from someplace to Phil.
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Post by: puddin on January 25, 2009, 06:52:17 PM
I now think Slowhatch has it  :lol: ...........  ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2009, 06:57:41 PM
??? I'm confused. Where does Edwards come in? The Bell helos in TAR7 flew around the Palos Verdes peninsula, and the promo caps look similar (compare with the Portuguese Bend (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jw-jets/2133060732/) area). But I haven't seen an assembly point. Producers like to drop the racers out of the sky, then show the bio clips.

Darn, HOW did I miss this?  Thank you Slowhatch, looks good to me!

Sigh, I want to drive along there.....

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 25, 2009, 07:05:50 PM



ok, now I agree with slowhatch.   :lol:

regardless....the palos verdes peninsula or Pt. Fermin in San Pedro, it's all  much more north of Los Alamitos AF base. 

the footage looks more and more like extra aerial footage shot just for show.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2009, 07:12:05 PM
I want us to find the parachute drop, please....  :flirt:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on January 25, 2009, 07:25:21 PM
 :lol:  The "real" matching view of Palos Verdes, Portuguese Point....  how obvious...  :funny:
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Post by: Chateau d If on January 25, 2009, 07:31:10 PM
Okay, Portuguese Bend for sure.  Nice job Slowhatch.

Now with the correct location:

This shot was taken between 10:13  and 10:26 am (assumes October 31st).

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0017-1.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on January 25, 2009, 07:54:17 PM
Yours was a great shot though Chateau, it really did look the same  :kuss:

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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 08:04:57 PM
Great now the timing is really quite correct!
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Post by: Boingo on January 25, 2009, 08:29:37 PM
 ;)  OK, just had to check something.... as I was saying, according to GE, it's 29.2 miles from Los Alamitos, AAF to LAX, with an approximate driving time of 37 mins.  Just two major freeways, but I would have thought that the San Diego Freeway was a more direct route.  :duno:  go figure...

Reality check time:  All this assumes that the racers take a "commercial flight" out of LAX. (I don't recall any airport sightings)  Just wondering....  :angel:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2009, 08:44:09 PM
I just tried GE and was coming to ask that! :lol3:
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 25, 2009, 08:56:41 PM
I'll throw in a little more local knowledge and then I'll shut up.
It all depends on which side of the runway you're on. If you're on the south side, taking Valleyview will dump you directly on the 405 feeder (try routing it from Orangewood next to the Navy golf course and you'll see what I mean). The teams are on the north side; in addition to the longer route, the traffic (weekday mornings, at least) on the north 605 will back up (for miles, sometimes) starting at the I-5 junction. Teams could save time going right instead of left on Katella (and avoid the red-light-camera intersection at Los Alamitos blvd.  :rules:  ;D) and then down Valleyview, but it would be counterintuitive.
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Post by: Boingo on January 25, 2009, 09:08:21 PM
 ;)  Good point, and as GE shows, Phil has his back to the control tower which is NORTH of the runway, so maybe the SD Freeway would not be a logical choice.  Looks like the the easiest way to exit the AAF would be to the north.   :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 25, 2009, 10:38:44 PM
I wonder which way a GPS would send them?

fwiw some better screencaps, sorry no Bend

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0004-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0007-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0005-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0006-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0009-2.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on January 25, 2009, 10:40:04 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0023-3.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0024-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0025-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0026-2.jpg)
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Post by: puddin on January 25, 2009, 10:41:52 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0027-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0028-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0029-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0030-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0031-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0032-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0033-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0034-2.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0035-2.jpg)
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 10:43:08 PM
I am obliged to believe that Margaret is holding an 8. 8th place?? what does it mean!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 25, 2009, 10:45:19 PM
I am obliged to believe that Margaret is holding an 8. 8th place?? what does it mean!

Probably a departure order, kiwi...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 25, 2009, 10:51:49 PM
but that is usually times. I can only see 8 there!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 26, 2009, 01:21:02 AM
but that is usually times. I can only see 8 there!

It could be a number for an order that they will be performing the task next morning, possibly the bungee/paraglide/other tasks already mentioned. But for departure times, they do usually have the time written on it.

If indeed it is an '8', which it looks like to me, we can assume that the mother/son team is not on the first flight in the first leg. :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 26, 2009, 01:36:58 AM
Quote
OK, just had to check something.... as I was saying, according to GE, it's 29.2 miles from Los Alamitos, AAF to LAX, with an approximate driving time of 37 mins.  Just two major freeways, but I would have thought that the San Diego Freeway was a more direct route.    go figure...

Reality check time:  All this assumes that the racers take a "commercial flight" out of LAX. (I don't recall any airport sightings)  Just wondering.... 



From the Los Alamitos area there are two routes, as noted, to LAX:

1.  405 North (straight shot)

2.  605 NOrth to the 105 West


You can access LAX from either the 405 or 105.

Considering where they are and then time of day, I personally would take the 405 North.  I wouldn't even give the other route a thought.  I live near the 405/605 intersection and when I am planning to go LAX, route 2 never even crosses my mind.  (coming home however that's another story.   :lol: ) 

Even if they did head in the direction of the 605, I would expect them to take the 605 south and then onto the 405 North. 

Traffic would be tough during that time period regardless however I would think the 405 would be a better bet. 

I'd say it would take them roughtly an hour give or take a few. 

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 26, 2009, 08:57:25 AM
Working on a better picture, heres the caption, you get the picture ....  :tup:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/cast/97613_D0439b-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/cast/97613_D0284b-1.jpg)
THE AMAZING RACE 14--Host Phil Keoghan of THE AMAZING RACE 14 at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Slowhatch on January 26, 2009, 09:04:54 AM
Some interesting stuff in the "Amazing Race Montage" at the CBS site: pie throwing, carrying cheese downhill, elephant cyclists, segway navigation, ballerinas, etc.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: schwarzmoor on January 26, 2009, 09:11:45 AM
Some interesting stuff in the "Amazing Race Montage" at the CBS site: pie throwing, carrying cheese downhill, elephant cyclists, segway navigation, ballerinas, etc.

I can't watch this video coz I think I'm outside US. Can someone upload this video to somewhere else? Thanks!
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 26, 2009, 09:13:47 AM
Well, the elephant bike ride is obviously from the Phuket Zoo (http://picasaweb.google.com/peturner45/PhuketDay9Sun157TukTukToPhuketZooChineseTempleInPhuketTownJewelleryShop#5093732256341973106). I had googled cheese runs earlier, but all I got were Englishmen near Gloucester (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/gloucestershire/7419788.stm).
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Post by: Slowhatch on January 26, 2009, 09:18:55 AM
??? No idea where this is. Someone should have it spotted by the time I get back from work.  :tup:
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Post by: Kogs on January 26, 2009, 09:22:56 AM
??? No idea where this is. Someone should have it spotted by the time I get back from work.  :tup:

thats the birdsnest aka olympic stadium in beejing
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Post by: Coutzy on January 26, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
??? No idea where this is. Someone should have it spotted by the time I get back from work.  :tup:

thats the birdsnest aka olympic stadium in beejing

Correct, I thought that would have been the most recognizable building in the world right now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 26, 2009, 09:29:29 AM
wow CBS giving away spoilers!  :jam:  :yess:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 09:56:18 AM
Video!

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Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 26, 2009, 09:59:16 AM
??? No idea where this is. Someone should have it spotted by the time I get back from work.  :tup:

Where is the stadium in the montage? The version on the CBS site now doesn't have it...

edit: it seems depending on which interstitial is on before the montage you may not see the first bit. It starts with the elephant.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 10:24:21 AM
Swiss Cheese! :lol: Elephants in Phuket! Russian (?) Ballet!

 :wohoo:
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Post by: Boingo on January 26, 2009, 10:50:43 AM
 :tup:  Looks like bungee jumping is at Verzasca Dam in Ticino, Switzerland (http://www.trekking.ch/eng/007.asp)   :yess:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 10:52:30 AM
Heee...that one we had! :hugs:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg367578.html#msg367578
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 26, 2009, 11:09:20 AM
A few comments are in order at this time:

1. The scene of the beergarden is typically German, not Austrian(even though Salzburg in on the border). It's very easy to cross over to Bertechsgaden, maybe 25 miels from Salzburg. I predict that that task will be in Germany.

2. The ballet is quintessentially Russian. I predict we will see it in one of the Siberian cities.

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Post by: apskip on January 26, 2009, 11:13:49 AM
I am happy to report that my deductions on where the other Siberian city is (based on the flight schedules out and proximity to the "known" Kransnojarsk. It is Novosibirsk. I was right on the money and it is right on the Trans Siberian railroad.
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Post by: Uncle Bill on January 26, 2009, 11:15:10 AM
HI  to everyone been a while from posting.  The number on the hang glider is the phone number for the OASE Flugschute company in Germany their  email is www.oase paragliding.com  If some one reads German may be they can contact them for more info.
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Post by: Boingo on January 26, 2009, 11:16:34 AM
 ;D FWIW, found lots of Segway stuff for tourists at Lago Maggiore in Locarno, Switzerland.  :angel:  Good place to start looking.

Segway at Lago Maggiore (http://www.maggiore.ch/15/common_details.jsp?id=90361) 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 26, 2009, 11:19:40 AM
Just as an FYI.....the 747 engine that Phil is standing in front of is on an Air New Zealand aircraft.  (notice the tail)



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/cast/97613_D0284b-1.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/anon1akacolby/AirNZ_Koru.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Uncle Bill on January 26, 2009, 11:27:36 AM
The oase paragliding company is located in Obermaiselstein Germany FWIW.
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Post by: apskip on January 26, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Obermaiselstein, Germany is a place I never heard of before but it's on the extreme southwest corner of Bavaria. That puts it a long way from Salzburg. However, one compensation is that they have a wildlife zoo. The restaurant there looks very capable of having a small oom-pah brass band, so you never know. If it is in this race, it means a substantial detour from the shortest route between Interlaken and Salzburg.
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Post by: puddin on January 26, 2009, 12:24:26 PM
I have better videos now and will come back later and post all the screencaps in a new thread and we can sort it all out, thanks everyone!
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 12:34:21 PM
Thanks Uncle Bll and Boingo for that info! That's some lotta beer :jam:, and German beer is strong, As I can attest to after having survivied a week at Oktober fest with a bunch of Aussie's years ago, :funny:
Bavaria would be fabulous!

Russia ballet, could St Petersburg be possible?   :duno:

We need to have 9 countries this time:

Switzerland
Austria
Romania
India
Russia
Siberia
Thailand
China
USA (Hawaii)

So if we don't count Russia/Siberia as 2, we are still missing one....   ???

Quote
These contestants will travel one of the most grueling courses ever assembled on the Race - spanning 40,000 miles and nine countries in just 22 days.  Teams will be faced with a multitude of extremes, including the world's second tallest bungee jump, bone-chilling Siberian temperatures followed by the suffocating heat of India, and an Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air.  For the first time in the history of the Race, Teams will travel to Romania and Siberia. 

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18247.msg371429.html#msg371429

Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site:  the "Water Cube".

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14Beijingwatercube.jpg)

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 26, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
Thanks Uncle Bll and Boingo for that info! That's some lotta beer :jam:, and German beer is strong, As I can attest to after having survivied a week at Oktober fest with a bunch of Aussie's years ago, :funny:
Bavaria would be fabulous!

Russia ballet, could St Petersburg be possible?   :duno:

We need to have 9 countries this time:

Switzerland
Austria
Romania
India
Russia
Siberia
Thailand
China
USA (Hawaii)

So if we don't count Russia/Siberia as 2, we are still missing one....   ???

They visit Italy (Domodossola) when they are on the train from Locarno...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 12:45:16 PM
Hmmmm...do we count that as just transit, or not? ?? you are right though!

World countries does not count Russia and Siberia separately...
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Post by: redwings8831 on January 26, 2009, 01:29:45 PM
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site:  the "Water Cube".

Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.

Also, does anyone have an idea of where the picture that used the cakes is from (country)?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 01:34:37 PM
I vote Austria for cakes!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: puddin on January 26, 2009, 01:38:32 PM
I vote Austria for cakes!

Me too

.............
Michael's blog find: (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg359145.html#msg359145)

The driver pulled down the window and asked a young Austrian man for directions. I recognized right away that the driver spoke American English, so being the helpful American I am, I pulled around the front of the car to see if I could help. The Austrian man was fishing for his English vocabulary. Both the front and rear driver's side windows were down. A young man was driving, what I guess was his wife or girlfriend was behind him.
"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 01:43:48 PM
That's a great pick up, I would never have correlated pumpkin rot with those yummy cakes in every bakery window in Austria, :funny:  But I'll bet you have it!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on January 26, 2009, 02:47:04 PM
 ;D  That darn train and building/tank structure has been bothering me for a while now.   May have found a similar structure (if not the same one).   :angel:

FWIW, the picture below is described as "(Re 620) Re 6 / 6 train at the entrance to the Göschenen railway station   ;)

... you can see a similar building and top of the tank structure behind the train.  FYI, Göschenen is serviced by the Gotthard Railway.   So there.   :snicker:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 26, 2009, 02:51:33 PM
Wow Boingo! Good job!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on January 26, 2009, 03:17:53 PM
 :lol:  just because I can, yet more Göschenen pix.  notice there is a train tunnel nearby (possibly the Gotthard Tunnel).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 03:21:34 PM
That is a WOW! looks like a total match to me!  :jam:

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Göschenen is a municipality in the canton of Uri in Switzerland.

It is located at the northern end of the St. Gotthard Tunnel and the Gotthard Rail Tunnel in the canton of Uri. It is in the German-speaking part of Switzerland.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 04:13:52 PM
Did an editor slip up here and really mean Siberia? ???  :duno:   Or do we need to have a look-see? ???

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The racecourse spans 40,000 miles and nine countries in only 22 days, according to the release. Along the way, teams — which include stuntmen brothers, a pair of former NFL cheerleaders, two female flight attendants, a brother-sister duo with Harvard law degrees and the show’s first-ever deaf contestant and his mother will face the world’s second tallest bungee jump, the “bone-chilling cold” of Siberia followed by the “suffocating heat” of India, stops in Romania and Serbia and an “Olympic-sized challenge that leaves teams gasping for air” among other challenges

Link: http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/01/26/the-amazing-races-14th-season-will-be-grueling/ (http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/01/26/the-amazing-races-14th-season-will-be-grueling/)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Boingo on January 26, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
Did an editor slip up here and really mean Siberia? ???  :duno:   Or do we need to have a look-see? ???


Not really, this kinda solves your "missing country" issue.  Serbia (formerly Yugoslavia) borders Romania.  Fits the less air travel mantra of TAR14.  They could visit both easily.  Note the author also mentions Siberia in the same article.  It's possible.   ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 04:26:22 PM
I'm working on it!  ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 26, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
 I felt left out   ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: georgiapeach on January 26, 2009, 04:57:33 PM
This was based on a press release and NOT an interview, and all of the press releases should be the same, and no one else's (including ours) says Serbia.

So really, I think it is a mis-hearing/understanding of Siberia.

But since you never know, I am working on follow up.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Snooky on January 26, 2009, 05:11:49 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hTmuNBAmvhqFyktmDnblV-lOdq8QD95UT4D00

Hmm... Twelve episodes.  Maybe a double leg.  Or maybe 12 legs.  Or maybe it is just false.
 :ascared
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 26, 2009, 05:17:35 PM
or maybe a recap leg? or typo lol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 26, 2009, 05:37:11 PM
I have been trying to find out more about the wooden backpacks they are using here
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0051.jpg)

I haven't been able to find a really close match yet, but it seems that they are a traditional Swiss German Räf defined here (http://www.heidiland.com/en/navpage.cfm?category=heidimagazinhl&subcat=heidimagazinhl&id=321887) as
"A frame for carrying objects on one’s back, with which one can balance cumbersome and heavy loads over the centre line of the body, thus making them easier to carry."
The picture on this page here (http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:tN33IH9YjFsJ:photo.net/photodb/photo%3Fphoto_id%3D7660219+%22wooden+backpack%22+Switzerland&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=nz) has been removed, but I think the comment is referring to the same piece of apparatus
"The wooden backpack is also used for carrying the large cheeses down into the valley."

The closest image match I have been able to find is on ebay
(http://i8.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/1c/84/c71c_1.JPG)
Link (http://cgi.ebay.ch/Ruckentrage-altes-Raf-aus-Holz_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ130270573933#ebayphotohosting)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on January 26, 2009, 05:49:10 PM
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site:  the "Water Cube".

Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.


That would be an Olympic-sized task -- and one that would leave teams gasping for air -- literally!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 26, 2009, 06:40:34 PM
This was based on a press release and NOT an interview, and all of the press releases should be the same, and no one else's (including ours) says Serbia.

So really, I think it is a mis-hearing/understanding of Siberia.

But since you never know, I am working on follow up.

Just guessing here, but if they did want to stick to the Olympic-theme in this season, Serbia competed for the first time as an independant nation in the 2008 Olympics. That could explain why they would want to go there in this season in particular. Just speculating, though.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: mjriches2005 on January 26, 2009, 07:06:49 PM
Since theres only eight out of nine countries listed (USA, Switzerland, Austria, Romania, Russia, India, Thailand, and China) so the only thing that's missing is the last country since Siberia is technically a region in the Asian part of Russia.  The only countries that would fit the missing locale would be either Germany part of the Salzburg-Romania leg but doubt it since Salzburg has an airport with connections to Germany.  Liechtenstein between Switzerland and Austria count it as part of Leg 2 on the way to Salzburg.  Also Phil being sighted in Delhi doesn't really mean Delhi will be visited again, he might be in transit to another city in India and the only places that haven't got any attention in India on the Amazing Race are Triviandrum (on the very southern tip of the India peninisula mainland), Hyderabad, and Bangalore.  Also maybe the TAR producers and creators need some public input on what they should do for the next season (15) if it gets a greenlight despite the economic downturn.   ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 26, 2009, 08:09:26 PM
Someone over at SurvivorSucks pointed out that the woman in the Phuket picture could be Margie (the mom from the mother/son team).  I'm leaning toward that as well.  Look at the facial structure and the small pony tail.  In the cab ride in the other pictures below, she is wearing her hair in the little pony tail and the chin and nose to me, match up.   What do you guys think?


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/larger-1.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0029-1.jpg)



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0024-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 26, 2009, 08:52:59 PM
I have been trying to find out more about the wooden backpacks they are using here
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0051.jpg)

I haven't been able to find a really close match yet, but it seems that they are a traditional Swiss German Räf defined here (http://www.heidiland.com/en/navpage.cfm?category=heidimagazinhl&subcat=heidimagazinhl&id=321887) as
"A frame for carrying objects on one’s back, with which one can balance cumbersome and heavy loads over the centre line of the body, thus making them easier to carry."
The picture on this page here (http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:tN33IH9YjFsJ:photo.net/photodb/photo%3Fphoto_id%3D7660219+%22wooden+backpack%22+Switzerland&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=nz) has been removed, but I think the comment is referring to the same piece of apparatus
"The wooden backpack is also used for carrying the large cheeses down into the valley."


 :jumpy: Found the missing pic. I think it's a match
(http://photo.net/general-comments/attachment/13919536/fileT0MbIy.jpg)
http://photo.net/general-comments/image-attachment?comment_id=13919536 (http://photo.net/general-comments/image-attachment?comment_id=13919536)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 26, 2009, 09:16:12 PM
I love the Detectives! :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: gingerman28 on January 26, 2009, 10:00:50 PM
That's a very strange combination: umpah band, beer, and tortes (cakes) all in one location.  Is there a choice of tasks?  Guzzle x number of steins of beer or smash x number of cakes?  In any case, what a waste.  And look at all the cakes, a heck of a lot more than one per team.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: anon1akacolby on January 26, 2009, 10:58:50 PM
Quote
That's a very strange combination: umpah band, beer, and tortes (cakes) all in one location.  Is there a choice of tasks?  Guzzle x number of steins of beer or smash x number of cakes?  In any case, what a waste.  And look at all the cakes, a heck of a lot more than one per team.

I know!!  Who would choose cakes over beer?!!! I wouldn't.   :lol:

 :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 27, 2009, 12:04:32 AM
Remember Gus loving the German beer in TAR6? "This beer is gooooood!" :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Neobie on January 27, 2009, 12:50:17 AM
A rough estimate, using Delhi as the Indian location, gives us 22225 miles. (All predicted flight connections, through Frankfurt, Munich and Moscow for example, HAVE been included.) Novosibirsk, which has direct flights to Delhi, has been placed after Krasnojarsk, which doesn't.

Adding a flight back to Moscow before heading to India pumps the figure up to 24797 miles. Adding another return trip from Delhi to the bottom of the subcontinent makes it 27255.

Previous CBS estimates have been generous, but we're still far from 40000 miles. What could account for those missing frequent flier points? A finish line that comes AFTER Hawaii in the Continental US?

(http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gcmap?PATH=lax-fra-lszl-lsmi-szg-muc-otp-dme-kja-ovb-del-bkk-hkt-bkk-kwl-pek-hnl&PATH-COLOR=red)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 27, 2009, 01:40:34 AM
The blogger never got back to us Neobie .... maybe Phil was fliming final stand ups in Hawaii? And why would Phil give out that info or any of his crew?

Quote
Sadly, no on could be bothered to listen as we sprinted between two terminals (sent from one to the other and then back via a 10 minute shuttle bus each way). Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo.  We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport.  That said, it was a lovely airport.

During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of  CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight.  Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing.  On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.

Still we had quite a ways to go and even bumped into the host Phil Keoghan as he waited for his flight to film the finale in Hawaii.  It’s important to note that the running, fighting and begging for seats that you see on TV didn’t really happen and oh yeah, Phil flies business class.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on January 27, 2009, 07:24:37 AM
A rough estimate, using Delhi as the Indian location, gives us 22225 miles. (All predicted flight connections, through Frankfurt, Munich and Moscow for example, HAVE been included.) Novosibirsk, which has direct flights to Delhi, has been placed after Krasnojarsk, which doesn't.

Adding a flight back to Moscow before heading to India pumps the figure up to 24797 miles. Adding another return trip from Delhi to the bottom of the subcontinent makes it 27255.

Previous CBS estimates have been generous, but we're still far from 40000 miles. What could account for those missing frequent flier points? A finish line that comes AFTER Hawaii in the Continental US?

(http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gcmap?PATH=lax-fra-lszl-lsmi-szg-muc-otp-dme-kja-ovb-del-bkk-hkt-bkk-kwl-pek-hnl&PATH-COLOR=red)

First of all, there is not time for another leg and there is supposedly not a 13th leg. On Nov. 22, when teams should reach Hawaii, it was the 23rd day of the race. The race cannot continue on the mainland.

The best answer I can give you is a question of whether you used statute miles (always the way airlines report them) or regular miles. The difference is about 15% if you used air miles and World Race Productions used regular miles (which I would do if I were producing the Amazing Race).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: selkie on January 27, 2009, 11:08:02 AM
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site:  the "Water Cube".

Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.


That would be an Olympic-sized task -- and one that would leave teams gasping for air -- literally!

Belle Book


Considering how many competitive swimmers would struggle to complete a long coures 400 IM or 200 fly, my guess for a swimming-based task would be some short relay like they did with the kids running in Arfica in TAR 6, or else something like doing  800 meters of freestyle, which is far more doable for a casual swimmer if they take their time and rest on the walls or lane lines as needed. That one could not only really separate out the field because ability levels can vary so much, but you can also make the other racer hold the lap cards and that makes for a fun visual.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: gingerman28 on January 27, 2009, 01:18:45 PM
The blogger never got back to us Neobie .... maybe Phil was fliming final stand ups in Hawaii? And why would Phil give out that info or any of his crew?

Quote
Sadly, no on could be bothered to listen as we sprinted between two terminals (sent from one to the other and then back via a 10 minute shuttle bus each way). Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo.  We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport.  That said, it was a lovely airport.

During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of  CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight.  Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing.  On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.

[

Does this point a finger at the "double mint twins" as being one of the final 3 teams on the way to Hawaii?  Or are have they been eliminated and just travelling along with the final three?  Two teams and Phil? This almost seems more like two eliminated teams rather than final three teams.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on January 27, 2009, 02:48:18 PM
Gman, I see it the way you do. Any teams traveling with Phil are likely to be eliminated teams that did not fit into the Sequesterville. The final 3 teams would be travelliing together, almost always on the same plane, and well behind Phil. He gets a 12 to 36 hour head start after the penultimate leg.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: Belle Book on January 27, 2009, 04:03:33 PM
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site:  the "Water Cube".

Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.


That would be an Olympic-sized task -- and one that would leave teams gasping for air -- literally!

Belle Book


Considering how many competitive swimmers would struggle to complete a long coures 400 IM or 200 fly, my guess for a swimming-based task would be some short relay like they did with the kids running in Arfica in TAR 6, or else something like doing  800 meters of freestyle, which is far more doable for a casual swimmer if they take their time and rest on the walls or lane lines as needed. That one could not only really separate out the field because ability levels can vary so much, but you can also make the other racer hold the lap cards and that makes for a fun visual.

Yeah, that's probably the best possibility but the idea of having teams swim and compete in all eight races would be funny!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: password on January 27, 2009, 05:54:10 PM
The Summary feature 8 countries but the press release said 9 countries? Am i missing anything or did CBS include Siberia as one country.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on January 27, 2009, 09:04:25 PM
password, the countries in AR14 are Switzerland, Austria, Romania, Russia's Siberia macro-region, India, Thailand, China and the United States. I count 8. The article saying 9 included Serbia, which is almost certainly not true.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 27, 2009, 09:12:18 PM
My first HD commercial! Its pretty intense!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlOMj2b0N6w#


 <<HD toggle
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 27, 2009, 09:14:56 PM
apskip, i believe the original press release also said 9, not just that article. Puddin and I were talking about this, remember how BVM said they will visit 2 countries in Africa? and what they did was visit Burkino Faso wice? I think it is something like that, maybe the two Siberian legs, or else they count Russia and Siberia maybe?

Just thoughts, there could still be somewhere out there, I want Burma!! :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: spontaneousss on January 28, 2009, 01:16:47 AM
The blogger never got back to us Neobie .... maybe Phil was fliming final stand ups in Hawaii? And why would Phil give out that info or any of his crew?

Quote
Sadly, no on could be bothered to listen as we sprinted between two terminals (sent from one to the other and then back via a 10 minute shuttle bus each way). Three airlines, twelve “customer service” representatives and multiple people yelling at each other in Mandarin later we found ourselves on an Air China flight back to Tokyo.  We’re still not sure why or what they were screaming but it seemed to be the norm for the airport.  That said, it was a lovely airport.

During this ordeal we couldn’t help but notice two groups of travelers flashing American passports being flanked by their own teams of cameramen looking a little too giddy to be at the airport in Beijing at 8am. Oddly enough, it seems that we found ourselves in the middle of  CBS’ “Amazing Race” with two teams on our flight.  Without giving too much away, I can assure you that all of the panic and suspense of the actual show comes from some really great editing.  On this particular day we found ourselves watching the double mint twins in matching sweatshirts, bleached teeth and badly dyed red hair preen the entire time for the cameras.

[

Does this point a finger at the "double mint twins" as being one of the final 3 teams on the way to Hawaii?  Or are have they been eliminated and just travelling along with the final three?  Two teams and Phil? This almost seems more like two eliminated teams rather than final three teams.

hey guys i've been following you up for spoilers & i have to say i'm impressed, keep it up :tup:. in regards to cara & jamie being on the flight to hawaii, imo i think they are on the final 3, cause pointed out they were being tagged by the cameras the whole time..wouldn't that be a little off if the camera were focused on them if they have been eliminated already...just a thought
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 28, 2009, 01:34:19 AM

hey guys i've been following you up for spoilers & i have to say i'm impressed, keep it up :tup:. in regards to cara & jamie being on the flight to hawaii, imo i think they are on the final 3, cause pointed out they were being tagged by the cameras the whole time..wouldn't that be a little off if the camera were focused on them if they have been eliminated already...just a thought
Welcome to the forum spont ...  :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 28, 2009, 10:59:16 AM
Spont,

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the that tidbit, but as we have seen, decoy teams have had camera crews follow them especially when TAR gets to the final five or so. The eliminated teams do not go to Sequesterville and basically follow the remaining teams to the finish line. And the decoys go through the route to throw off any people (like the Detectives) from finding out the final three.

Last season, one of the remaining teams played the decoys in Portland. This we know from the Detectives' great work and from our talk with the teams during the lunch before the season finale. :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on January 28, 2009, 11:07:04 AM
Well we are having a bad ice storm here in the Big D, so I have nothing else to do and came up with this. You guys shoot it down all you like, it will only help.




Possible opening scenario of TAR14.

Oct 31, 2008—Leave Los Alamitos JRTB and make way to LAX for flights to Europe. Nov 1, 2008--  Possible  
                        termination points of trans-Atlantic flights at Zurich and Milan.
                        Teams make their way by train to Locarno, Switzerland and arrive at                  
                        overnight sleep over point and leave the next morning at designated time.
                        This is not a pit stop, but a continuation leg which is common on first leg
                        of TAR
Nov 2, 2008—Teams make their way to the Verzasca Dam and do the bungy jump roadblock.
                        After the roadblock, teams are told to go to Interlaken, Switzerland by
                        train. Depending on arrival at train station in Locarno, there are two routes
                        to Interlaken, either through the Gotthard Tunnel or Simplon Tunnel.
                        Teams would have to determine which routing would get them to
                        Interlaken soonest.  On arrival in Interlaken, teams encounter a detour. I
                        think the detour would be snow related (we had the company of the guy
                        that specializes in filming snowboarding). So detour is maybe
                        snowboarding or segway  After completing detour, teams make their way
                        to the Pit Stop around Interlaken. It is presumed that some teams will
                        arrive at the Pit Stop before dark, meaning that they will leave the next
                        morning before sunup.
Nov 3, 2008—Leave pit stop and drive to Obermaiselstein. Along the way teams will
                        have to go through Lucerne. This city has similar waterfront as Interlaken
                        and could be site for Segway task to get clue to go to Obermaiselstein. The
                       cheese deal looks like a roadblock to me. All pics are of a single team
                       member that I can tell. So somewhere along the way, they should do the
                       cheese task in Switzerland to me. I mean we order Swiss cheese, not
                       Austrian cheese or German cheese….lol…..but that is just a guess. After
                       completion of roadblock, proceed to Obermaiselstein for detour,
                       paragliding or pie throwing. After completion of detour, drive to Schloss
                      Hellbrum in Salzburg for pit stop.
Nov 4, 2008--(Possible moved Pit Stop mat from night before like in Moscow) Teams
                      leave Salzburg Pit Stop for tasks in Salzburg then make their way to    
                      Bucherest and Translvania arriving early morning of Nov 5th. This comes
                      from the fact that the lady jogged by the Schloss Hellbrum the next moring
                      and nothing was happening. All the cars were still parked there and nothing
                      where the Pit Stop mat had been the night before.
Nov 5, 2008--Teams make their way by trains to Translvania and either tasks or 36 hour
                      pit stop.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: spontaneousss on January 28, 2009, 11:47:34 AM
Spont,

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the that tidbit, but as we have seen, decoy teams have had camera crews follow them especially when TAR gets to the final five or so. The eliminated teams do not go to Sequesterville and basically follow the remaining teams to the finish line. And the decoys go through the route to throw off any people (like the Detectives) from finding out the final three.

Last season, one of the remaining teams played the decoys in Portland. This we know from the Detectives' great work and from our talk with the teams during the lunch before the season finale. :tup:

yeah, maybe. .. i'd just like to think the fact that another female team made it to the final 3. hehe... oh well
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 28, 2009, 12:26:54 PM
nvm
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on January 28, 2009, 02:09:22 PM
Spont,

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for the that tidbit, but as we have seen, decoy teams have had camera crews follow them especially when TAR gets to the final five or so. The eliminated teams do not go to Sequesterville and basically follow the remaining teams to the finish line. And the decoys go through the route to throw off any people (like the Detectives) from finding out the final three.

Last season, one of the remaining teams played the decoys in Portland. This we know from the Detectives' great work and from our talk with the teams during the lunch before the season finale. :tup:

yeah, maybe. .. i'd just like to think the fact that another female team made it to the final 3. hehe... oh well
Believe me, I would love to see it. I would love another all-female make it to give them a chance. Dustin & Kandice were so close in All-Stars.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on January 28, 2009, 03:04:32 PM
Well we are having a bad ice storm here in the Big D, so I have nothing else to do and came up with this. You guys shoot it down all you like, it will only help.
Possible opening scenario of TAR14.

Oct 31, 2008—Leave Los Alamitos JRTB and make way to LAX for flights to Europe. Nov 1, 2008--  Possible  
                        termination points of trans-Atlantic flights at Zurich and Milan.
                        Teams make their way by train to Locarno, Switzerland and arrive at                  
                        overnight sleep over point and leave the next morning at designated time.
                        This is not a pit stop, but a continuation leg which is common on first leg
                        of TAR
Nov 2, 2008—Teams make their way to the Verzasca Dam and do the bungy jump roadblock.
                        After the roadblock, teams are told to go to Interlaken, Switzerland by
                        train. Depending on arrival at train station in Locarno, there are two routes
                        to Interlaken, either through the Gotthard Tunnel or Simplon Tunnel.
                        Teams would have to determine which routing would get them to
                        Interlaken soonest.  On arrival in Interlaken, teams encounter a detour. I
                        think the detour would be snow related (we had the company of the guy
                        that specializes in filming snowboarding). So detour is maybe
                        snowboarding or segway  After completing detour, teams make their way
                        to the Pit Stop around Interlaken. It is presumed that some teams will
                        arrive at the Pit Stop before dark, meaning that they will leave the next
                        morning before sunup.
Nov 3, 2008—Leave pit stop and drive to Obermaiselstein. Along the way teams will
                        have to go through Lucerne. This city has similar waterfront as Interlaken
                        and could be site for Segway task to get clue to go to Obermaiselstein. The
                       cheese deal looks like a roadblock to me. All pics are of a single team
                       member that I can tell. So somewhere along the way, they should do the
                       cheese task in Switzerland to me. I mean we order Swiss cheese, not
                       Austrian cheese or German cheese….lol…..but that is just a guess. After
                       completion of roadblock, proceed to Obermaiselstein for detour,
                       paragliding or pie throwing. After completion of detour, drive to Schloss
                      Hellbrum in Salzburg for pit stop.
Nov 4, 2008--(Possible moved Pit Stop mat from night before like in Moscow) Teams
                      leave Salzburg Pit Stop for tasks in Salzburg then make their way to    
                      Bucherest and Translvania arriving early morning of Nov 5th. This comes
                      from the fact that the lady jogged by the Schloss Hellbrum the next moring
                      and nothing was happening. All the cars were still parked there and nothing
                      where the Pit Stop mat had been the night before.
Nov 5, 2008--Teams make their way by trains to Translvania and either tasks or 36 hour
                      pit stop.

Dr. Rox, I am not attempting to "shoot it down" as I respect your thinking even though I do not agree with all of it. Let's start with the biggest problem area, which is number of legs. We know from Bertram van Munster that there are 12 legs in AR14. He has been known to get things not quite right, but I believe him here. My timeline (see Timelines and Flight Information thread) calls for three total legs in Locarno, Interlaken and Salzburg. Then there is Romania, Krasnoyarsk, Novosibirsk, somewhere in India, Phuket, an unkown location (leaning toward agreemeent on Thailand but that is irrelevant for the purpose of this analysis), Guilin, Beijing and Hawaii fof a total of 9. 9+4 = 13, which is one too many. There can be only 3 legs in Switzerland, whatever parts of Italy and Germany might be traversed, and Austria or the total get too high.

Your thought that Cheese will be a ROADBLOCK is a good one. Your thought that it should be done in Switzerland (even though you have to steal a ROADBLOCK from the Interlaken are to make room there for such a ROADBLOCK) is even better. It almost for sure is going to be Switzerland, not Obermaiselstein.

I think Obermaiselstein is possible, but not probable. The company there that you have cited for a task could move its plane to either Switzerland or to Salzburg to accomplish the same result.

Your thought that teams will make their wasy to Locarno, arriving mid-afternoon after a flight and train and/or bus combinations, and then go to sleep needs improvement. I think teams will do tasks in Locarno to until there is a "pick a number" board which will be the setup for the following morning at Verzasca Dam, then they will rest. In the morning I see Verzasca Dam and then the end of leg 1 with a TBC so they can keep going and arrive in Interlaken in the early afternoon. In Interlaken teams will do the full range of tasks for leg 2(including cheese) and have a pit stop. For leg 3 the tranportation mode to Salzburg could be car (it's more efficient than I originally thought), train to the plane via Zurich, and even train all the way. I see no big favorite here, but the self-navigation is always fun to watch, so I hope that it is by car. I know that this concept puts a ROADBLOCK into leg 1 but you can't do both Verzasca Dam and cheese in leg 2.

A minor aside is that no respectable train would take the Gotthard Tunnel to go from Locarno to Interlaken. The Simplon tunnel between Domodossola and Brig is the only one that makes sense. The gotthard tunnel route is much longer and takes more time.


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 28, 2009, 03:11:45 PM
I LOVE that spec summary, it always helps to see things laid out.

But I think that the first episode (ie leg 1) will include Los Alamitos through Interlaken, leaving Salzburg as Leg 2.

BVM did say we would have a death defying stunt in Leg 1, I believe, which has to be the bungee.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 28, 2009, 03:12:24 PM
About the cheese its a team task ..
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Snooky on January 28, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
Cheese!  This is going to be so awesome!
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 28, 2009, 08:31:41 PM
I thought we new cheese was a team task lol The montage cleared all that up !
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on January 28, 2009, 08:44:00 PM


Your thought that teams will make their wasy to Locarno, arriving mid-afternoon after a flight and train and/or bus combinations, and then go to sleep needs improvement. I think teams will do tasks in Locarno to until there is a "pick a number" board which will be the setup for the following morning at Verzasca Dam, then they will rest. In the morning I see Verzasca Dam and then the end of leg 1 with a TBC so they can keep going and arrive in Interlaken in the early afternoon. In Interlaken teams will do the full range of tasks for leg 2(including cheese) and have a pit stop. For leg 3 the tranportation mode to Salzburg could be car (it's more efficient than I originally thought), train to the plane via Zurich, and even train all the way. I see no big favorite here, but the self-navigation is always fun to watch, so I hope that it is by car. I know that this concept puts a ROADBLOCK into leg 1 but you can't do both Verzasca Dam and cheese in leg 2.


I don't think I added a leg.
Leg 1)  Start in California and end in Interlaken
Leg 2)  Start in Interlaken and end in Salzburg
Leg 3)  Start in Salzburg and end in Romania

So maybe Leg 1 Roadblock is bungy jump in Locano and Detour is ????? or Cheese in Interlaken, since the cheese run was found there.

We know the teams were split 7/4 on the flights to Europe. In that one vidcap, Margie/Luke appear to be holding a card with the number 8 on it. I think that determines the order the teams get to do the bungy jump the next morning. I also think that it means that they were on the later flight to Europe and the 7 teams from Frankfurt airport had already checked in and got their cards. They certainly could do some tasks in Locarno before arriving at the check in, but, like Peach, I do not think it is a Pit Stop in Locarno.  By the time they get to that check in, they have been going for at least 24 hours. So a pre-planned rest period before the HOH task at the dam makes sense to me.

Edited to remove Segway event from first leg. Segway belongs in 2nd leg.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 28, 2009, 09:59:29 PM
I like it Rox, that all works for me! :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: puddin on January 29, 2009, 11:14:32 AM
From the CBS message boards  (http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/25532.page), does this work with our Guilin info? plus short men  :yess:

Quote
12/17/2008 19:23:36     
Subject: Re:DONT SHOOT ME -TAR 14 has started filming   
TARinChina
CBS Community Member
 
Joined: 12/17/2008

 We were in the Guangzhou China airport November 17th around 11pm and saw a team of two caucasian men wearing backpacks running through the airport with a cameraman and producer in tow. They were in the baggage claim area and were in a hurry to find something and stopped at hte information desk to ask directions. The cameraman was working to capture every move. The men were both short and appeared to be related. One had a fanny pack that was visible with red/yellow/back horizontal stripes on it. We went up to them and said "Are you with the Amazing Race?". They said "No", but we are waiting for cast pictures to see if they were telling the truth or not. 


Quote
They were both rarther short (5 ft 5 or less my guess) with brownish red hair. They looked like they were related. I think at least one of them wore glasses. They were "thick" build but not fat. They were wearing shorts and tshirts and both had on back packs. They were very much in a hurry and looked stressed. There was a camera man that was filming their every move and a person carrying a microphone that was stuck in front of their faces as well. Hope that helps

Just a follow up fwiw, after looking at the cast photos, TARinChina answers ...
Quote
It very well could have been Mark and Michael. 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 29, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
Sounds like them. And Dr Rox. I think you really have hit the nail on the head!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: scuzneck on January 29, 2009, 01:27:51 PM
Olympic-sized challenge that leaves Teams gasping for air shouts swimming challenge to me, hopefully at the Olympic pool site:  the "Water Cube".

Maybe as a possible task, teams have to swim and complete all eight Olympic races that Phelps won gold in.


That would be an Olympic-sized task -- and one that would leave teams gasping for air -- literally!


Belle Book


Considering how many competitive swimmers would struggle to complete a long coures 400 IM or 200 fly, my guess for a swimming-based task would be some short relay like they did with the kids running in Arfica in TAR 6, or else something like doing  800 meters of freestyle, which is far more doable for a casual swimmer if they take their time and rest on the walls or lane lines as needed. That one could not only really separate out the field because ability levels can vary so much, but you can also make the other racer hold the lap cards and that makes for a fun visual.

Could this quite possibly be a dreaded INTERSECTION, as well...The two teams pair up and have to swim a 400M freestyle relay. Each member only has to swim one length of the pool, but you would have to hope that all 4 members of the group were competant swimmers.


something like doing  800 meters of freestyle ---- that is really, even for a good swimmer, a bunch of swimming. In the Beijing pool that would be 16 down and backs ... That is a lot of water to swim...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: gingerman28 on January 29, 2009, 07:31:11 PM
All this conjecture about swimming events may be just that.  If one had to run just 100 meters to meet a time standard, one would be gasping for air at the end.   Especially if you are not a trained athlete and the smog level is high as it usually is in Beijing.  The Bird Cage has been shown in the promos and not the Water Cube, and this has been the location of the track and field events.  Maybe the team has to do a watered down version of the Decathalon (that's ten streneous tasks - five for each member of the team)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 29, 2009, 09:46:55 PM
Thanks to Chateau we now know the Segways are most likely EP2 Schönau am Königssee - Germany (http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldwalker/664685323/)
Jamie & Cara are on the Segways, their coats even match the Salzburg blurry blog pictures (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg359145.html#msg359145), they are the only ones shown on the Segways just to clear that up.
"Two women were running together. One was hobbling. The other said, "I'm going ahead a bit," and the other countered with, "OK, go ahead." Off into the park they went, clueless as the day was long."


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14SalzburgPitstopfmChase1-1.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/untitled.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/monatage/montage/rff-0014.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/monatage/montage/rff-0017.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 29, 2009, 09:59:53 PM
I think the source meant there that they were not going the right (most direct) way to the PitStop....

So did one of them hurt themselves falling on that Segway? :'(

And the cakes have to be JUST before the PitStop, or they would have been cleaned up before the source saw them, right?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 29, 2009, 10:33:10 PM
^^ thats why I'm wondering if Cara and Jamie switched detours?

We believe the cakes are also for this leg (2)



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0043.jpg) Victor and Tammy

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0047.jpg) Marge and assumes Luke

then the paragliding as well thanks the Uncle Bill, Slowhatch, DrRox, Chateau..

Ruhpolding, Barvaria

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0027-2.jpg) << not sure who that is but I think its a female (green jacket & jeans)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0033-2.jpg) Mike White is there as well
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 29, 2009, 10:58:39 PM
The asian siblings look like they are first at the cake fight, while Marge and Luke are a lot later (judging by the mess on the floor)

Also, I thought the paraglider pilot would be at the top/back like parachuting (they have their hands on the the handles for controlling the wing), which would make the guy in light brown our racer....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 29, 2009, 11:01:28 PM
The asian siblings look like they are first at the cake fight, while Marge and Luke are a lot later (judging by the mess on the floor)

Also, I thought the paraglider pilot would be at the top/back like parachuting (they have their hands on the the handles for controlling the wing), which would make the guy in light brown our racer....
You are smart Mrs Shrek! So that is Mel White in the coveralls  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 29, 2009, 11:30:47 PM
I agree, the green jacket would be the pilot, but guess the person in the grey fleece could be Mel? hard to tell, I thought at first look it might be Christie! :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 30, 2009, 12:07:24 AM
It is Mel! You can hear him saying "I would lose the race for this" in numerous spoiler promos!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 30, 2009, 12:08:49 AM
I mean saying that while paragliding. It is 100 percent him!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2009, 12:14:06 AM
He won't be the only one sailing though, lol. But I agree that his pants may match the first group shot...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 30, 2009, 12:21:03 AM
peach it is him. Everything matches him. It looks like him. Mike is in the same kinda shot. Mel is heard to say in the exact same shot in his voice "I would lose the race for this. It is definitley him!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on January 30, 2009, 04:12:06 AM
I think the source meant there that they were not going the right (most direct) way to the PitStop....

So did one of them hurt themselves falling on that Segway? :'(

And the cakes have to be JUST before the PitStop, or they would have been cleaned up before the source saw them, right?

^^ thats why I'm wondering if Cara and Jamie switched detours?
 
Quote from Michael's Salzburg blogger:
By the way, the team of two women appeared to have no slime on them whatsoever which would imply they had a choice in a previous activity. A Detour?


I went back and read this guy's blog and correspondence. The first team, young couple, he encounters, the one asking directions, has to be either Preston/Jennifer or Amanda/Kris. He says they are a young couple. And they have slime. He also comments on two other things......"lots of make-up and the woman swore" Well, being from the SOUTH, this just shouts Jennifer to me. The same as Jodi/Chrissy putting on make up for landing in Bucherest, lol Southern women dont do anything without their face on.  I know first hand, I used to be married to one. The other thing was the girl "swore." Again, for some reason, and I admit not having seen them in action yet, I think that was Jennifer. Just a hunch. It just doesn't hit me as a California deal, which would be Amanda.

Then at the Schloss, he saw a girl/girl team with dark hair and no slime. That had to be Cara/Jamie. One was hobbling, so looks a little like a segway accident as has been speculated above.  No slime = no detour switch.

The last team he saw was an older couple with slime and from the pics it seems to be Brad/Victoria, since they are tall

I too think the "slime" event is real close to the Pit Stop or they would have cleaned up.

Whoever was corresponding with that guy in Salzburg might shoot him an email and ask him what color the team in the car was wearing, the one he gave directions too. or send him the pic of Preston/Jennifer and Amanda/Kris and let him identify them.  Either orange or the light blue would be my guess and he might remember that if prompted.  Heck, maybe he is reading this and might just post.

GE says it is 23.3 km (16 miles) 25 min. from Schonau am Konigssee, German (segway event) to Schloss Hellbrunn. I would think the torte (cake throwing) event to be in Berchtesgardener Land too. Maybe we can match up that flag in the tent with one of those villages around Berchtesgaden. MsShrek in post 117 in the Promo Screencaps identified a town in Austria wiht a similiar flag, but the colors are reversed. I think we need to find a village in Berchtesgadener Land with red on the right and blue on the left. Again from MsShrek in post 135 in the Promo Screencaps thread, bavarian tents are blue/white striped and Austrian tents are red/white striped.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Coutzy on January 30, 2009, 04:39:46 AM
In regards to the cleaning up, didn't we see six people go through the mean streets of India covered in paint dust quite recently? Those people never cleaned up even though the task was at the start of the leg.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on January 30, 2009, 06:30:31 AM
The banner/flag behind the band.......red/blue and something on it.......

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0003.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0046.jpg)

The Municipality of Berchtesgaden Coat of Arms from Wikipedia.com
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3238920254_985e613de2.jpg?v=0)

In reading this morning about Coats of Arms, I always thought they were always the same. This morning I found out they could be different, as long as they all had the same elememts. Anyway, I think the torte throwing was in Berchtesgaden somwhere. I think the colors match. All of the other coats of arms from Berchtesgadener Land I found were different colors. Maybe after 1st episode, we will get something else to narrow it down.

I have to give credit to MsShrek. I would have never picked up on the banner/flag in the background. Good eyes, Ms Shrek
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: apskip on January 30, 2009, 07:34:05 AM
A few comments are in order at this time:

1. The scene of the beergarden is typically German, not Austrian(even though Salzburg in on the border). It's very easy to cross over to Bertechsgaden, maybe 25 miels from Salzburg. I predict that that task will be in Germany.

2. The ballet is quintessentially Russian. I predict we will see it in one of the Siberian cities.

Dr. Rox, I agree with Bertechsgaden and even predicted it as one possibility.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: DrRox on January 30, 2009, 08:25:30 AM
A few comments are in order at this time:

1. The scene of the beergarden is typically German, not Austrian(even though Salzburg in on the border). It's very easy to cross over to Bertechsgaden, maybe 25 miels from Salzburg. I predict that that task will be in Germany.

2. The ballet is quintessentially Russian. I predict we will see it in one of the Siberian cities.

Dr. Rox, I agree with Bertechsgaden and even predicted it as one possibility.

Kudos to you too. I remember the part of the post about the ballet, but I guess I read right past the german part. It might have been my brain thought you meant another place with the misspelling  Bertechsgaden.....but I usually don't do that. If all the right letters are there, I usually get the meaning and just attribute it to a typo. I spent the last 11 years marking papers and sure did circle a lot of bad spelling......maybe by brain refuses to do it anymore. Spelling wasn't a big part of what I did, but I would point it out to my students. They hated that. I know I dont spell everything correctly everytime, but I do try to proof read and catch them. I associate correcting other people's spelling on the internet to throwing rocks at glass houses.

Again, kudos for making that observation on Bavaria and not Austria.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on January 30, 2009, 09:40:57 AM
A note for Peach and anyone else wondering, it is 45 km (30 miles approx) drive straight up the valley from Ruhpolding (paragliding) to either Schonau am Konigssee (segway event) and Berchtesgaden (possible location of torte throwing (cake/slime event).  Then about a 30 minute drive to the Schloss Hellbrunn and the Pit Stop.

It's a good thing I am not in charge, lol, cuz I know exactly where I would plant that tent or at least where I would put the clue box for the detour information.... :bounce ... but then again, all my close friends know how warped I am and all the RFF people haven't learned yet.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Chateau d If on January 30, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
BG is definitely involved here.  The banner in our screen caps belongs to Hoffbrauhaus Berchtesgaden (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3728782) And their website (http://www.berchtesgadener-bier.de/brauerei.html).

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/3728782.jpg)

I can't find where they have the big tent on GE.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 30, 2009, 02:38:37 PM
thank you chateau! I've been going cross-eyed looking at blue-red striped flags for the past few days.

I guess the tent doesn't necessarily have to be on their premises though. It could be hired and erected in some remote field, and the Hotel just got to hang their flag there because they provided the beer/band/cakes etc
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2009, 02:45:22 PM
Chateau is on a ROLL! Three for three!  :ty3:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 30, 2009, 02:48:48 PM
When I was looking thru the various Berchtesgaden websites, I couldn't help thinking it was much too nice a place to just go to and throw cakes at each other.

I'm assuming the beer drinkers are just background scenery, and not part of a detour if the contestants are going to be self driving from there to the pitstop in Salzburg
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 30, 2009, 03:08:32 PM
BG is definitely involved here.  The banner in our screen caps belongs to Hoffbrauhaus Berchtesgaden (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3728782) And their website (http://www.berchtesgadener-bier.de/brauerei.html).

(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/3728782.jpg)

I can't find where they have the big tent on GE.
Good job Chateau  :jumpy:! Honestly i was looking for German beer labels and couldn't connect any with the banner then lost interest, thought I was on the wrong track!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on January 30, 2009, 03:23:46 PM
Bravo Bravo Chateau.........as they say in golf."You da mannnnnn"   

(the blue and red stripes in my eyeballs are starting to fade finally!!!)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2009, 03:34:02 PM
From their website: Maybe we'll see some of the same band?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/monatage/montage/rff-0001.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14band-cakes.png)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14band-cakes2.png)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 30, 2009, 03:38:30 PM
What peach, no Hoffbrauhaus Berchtesgaden history lesson? :word:

 :neener:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2009, 03:39:34 PM
Okay, who is going to do be the pretty little summary map with all the pinned locations, for the soon-to-be MAPS! thread?

I would love one for Switzerland and one for Bavaria/Salzburg :please:

Boingo? Neobie? :luvu:


puddin: available for a fee! :neener:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 30, 2009, 03:42:59 PM
A map thread sure would be nice *cough*ahem*cough*  :neener:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 30, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
A map thread sure would be nice *cough*ahem*cough*  :neener:

Offers puddin cough lozenge  ;D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2009, 03:47:28 PM
Shut up, I'm working on it! :neener:

and Christmas is coming too! :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2009, 03:52:34 PM
A map thread sure would be nice *cough*ahem*cough*  :neener:

Offers puddin cough lozenge  ;D
Offers puddin a laryngectomy.... :touche:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 30, 2009, 04:05:46 PM
A map thread sure would be nice *cough*ahem*cough*  :neener:

Offers puddin cough lozenge  ;D
Offers puddin a laryngectomy.... :touche:

offers puddin and peach inflatable sumo wrestling suits, and removes all sharp objects
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 30, 2009, 04:06:34 PM
peachy puddin' jello/pudding wrestling  :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on January 30, 2009, 04:10:01 PM
or there might be some leftover bavarian cream cakes....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on January 30, 2009, 04:14:07 PM
I think the source meant there that they were not going the right (most direct) way to the PitStop....

So did one of them hurt themselves falling on that Segway? :'(

And the cakes have to be JUST before the PitStop, or they would have been cleaned up before the source saw them, right?

^^ thats why I'm wondering if Cara and Jamie switched detours?
 
Quote from Michael's Salzburg blogger:
By the way, the team of two women appeared to have no slime on them whatsoever which would imply they had a choice in a previous activity. A Detour?


I went back and read this guy's blog and correspondence. The first team, young couple, he encounters, the one asking directions, has to be either Preston/Jennifer or Amanda/Kris. He says they are a young couple. And they have slime. He also comments on two other things......"lots of make-up and the woman swore" Well, being from the SOUTH, this just shouts Jennifer to me. The same as Jodi/Chrissy putting on make up for landing in Bucherest, lol Southern women dont do anything without their face on.  I know first hand, I used to be married to one. The other thing was the girl "swore." Again, for some reason, and I admit not having seen them in action yet, I think that was Jennifer. Just a hunch. It just doesn't hit me as a California deal, which would be Amanda.

Then at the Schloss, he saw a girl/girl team with dark hair and no slime. That had to be Cara/Jamie. One was hobbling, so looks a little like a segway accident as has been speculated above.  No slime = no detour switch.

The last team he saw was an older couple with slime and from the pics it seems to be Brad/Victoria, since they are tall

I too think the "slime" event is real close to the Pit Stop or they would have cleaned up.

Whoever was corresponding with that guy in Salzburg might shoot him an email and ask him what color the team in the car was wearing, the one he gave directions too. or send him the pic of Preston/Jennifer and Amanda/Kris and let him identify them.  Either orange or the light blue would be my guess and he might remember that if prompted.  Heck, maybe he is reading this and might just post.

GE says it is 23.3 km (16 miles) 25 min. from Schonau am Konigssee, German (segway event) to Schloss Hellbrunn. I would think the torte (cake throwing) event to be in Berchtesgardener Land too. Maybe we can match up that flag in the tent with one of those villages around Berchtesgaden. MsShrek in post 117 in the Promo Screencaps identified a town in Austria wiht a similiar flag, but the colors are reversed. I think we need to find a village in Berchtesgadener Land with red on the right and blue on the left. Again from MsShrek in post 135 in the Promo Screencaps thread, bavarian tents are blue/white striped and Austrian tents are red/white striped.

Just out of curiosity -- how did some of them get slime?

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 30, 2009, 04:28:30 PM
We think the slime wasn't exactly slime afterall, more like cakes.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 30, 2009, 04:36:46 PM
Now you are talking!  :-*
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 30, 2009, 09:37:14 PM



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0027-2.jpg)

that settles that .....

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0006-2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on January 30, 2009, 09:54:45 PM
What peach, no Hoffbrauhaus Berchtesgaden history lesson? :word:
 :neener:

Well, if you insist, puddin, I can step in and offer one. I visited Bertechsgaden decades ago and it was (and I am certain still is) one of the most beautiful places on the globe. It is the northern end of the Konigsee.  The Bertechsgaden National Park was established in 1978 with the Königssee in its centre.

A second claim to fame is the BERCHTESGADEN SALTMINES where visitors are dressed in miner’s attire and take an underground train into the mine. The tour includes a boat trip across an underground lake.

However it is this third fact which makes Berchtesgaden a unique place. During World War II, Adolf Hitler maintained a residence at Berghof, a complex of buildings which included the Eagle's Nest on Kehlstein Mountain above Bertechsgaden (the area is part of Obersalzburg). He ran the war from there when he was not doing so in Berlin or touring the military fronts; it was referred to as the #2 seat of power in the Third Reich.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 30, 2009, 11:29:31 PM
My turn, although I've never been to Interlaken

Interlaken, Matten, Unterseen

The Augustine monastery was founded at the beginning of the12th century and first documented in 1133. It played a decisive role in the development of the ‘Bödeli’ (local name for the flat plain between Lakes Thun & Brienz). From 1224, the Interlaken monastery enjoyed the protection of the ambitious city of Bern and became one of the largest landowners in the region. Its wealth and widespread connections attracted many traders and guests to the establishment. A convent was later affiliated to the monastery and at times housed over 300 nuns.In 1484, financial problems and friction resulted in the abolition of the convent and with the arrival of the Reformation in Bern in 1528, time was also up for the monastery. From then on the building served as the official seat of the provincial governor. In later times, the monastery church was put to another use, serving to store barrels and wagons until it eventually fell to ruin. Today’s Protestant church was built in 1909 on the foundations of the old church nave.  At the same time the Catholics built their own House of God immediately next to the Protestant church.

Interlaken, The former Aarmühle

Today’s resort of Interlaken was once known as Aarmühle (Aare Mill). From 1562, the monastery mill that gave the place its name was owned by the provincial bailiwick. In 1708, the four mill wheels at Aarmühle finally ground to a halt. The Mühlekanal (mill canal) is a reminder of this industry from earlier times. In 1891, the local council successfully applied to the government to change the name "Aarmühle" to the commonly used "Interlaken" (between the lakes). The name Interlaken was already being used in geographical maps, travel books, timetables and even advertisements. Permission to change "Aarmühle" to "Interlaken" was granted in December 1891.



Matten

The name Matten can be traced back to a document dated in 1183 where the expression "Interlacus-Madon" was found. Another mention was in 1242 when a blacksmith's shop with tavern was described which is presumed to be todays' Gasthof Hirschen. In historical times the land of Matten was shared by the farming communities of Aarmühle (Interlaken), Wilderswil and Matten. In 1838 Matten and Aarmühle had a falling out which resulted in the founding of the political community of Matten.

 

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on January 31, 2009, 07:45:06 AM
puddin, a good historical overview. However, there is one additional thing that Interlaken is noted for (besides being a cute Swiss town with a major railroad connection and lake connections to Thun and Spiez for which the 2 lakes are named). That is the fabled trip to the Jungraujoch, my reason for being there. The train near the top goes through an ice tunnel and there is an ice palace besides an incredible view from above 11,000 feet. I reacted to being the highest (at that point) in my life by nearly passing out, but that is easy enough to avoid if you are expecting altitude sickness.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: password on January 31, 2009, 12:40:34 PM
I said, knock it off!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2009, 01:10:33 PM
The CBS press release said they would visit 9 ountries and the second tallest jump, presumably a bungee jump. This is loacted in ZAMBIA which could be the missing country and leg since there is 12 of them.


 WTH??  :wall:

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

 :readtt:

Macau Tower 233 meters

Verzasca 220 meters

Victoria Falls 111 meters
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 31, 2009, 03:00:15 PM
OMG!  :lol:  :-[ even I havent screwed up that bad......or have I  :lol: :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2009, 03:21:08 PM
To be fair, if you google second longest bungee then Zambia does come up (erroneously).

But had password read anything at all here, (let alone everything like you do kiwi :kuss:), he would have realized that we have all the countries and the incredible Verzasca bungee well documented here. And not taking the time to even read puddin's beautiful summaries is incredibly rude to all the posters who do.


I feel better now....

 :carryon:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 31, 2009, 03:43:26 PM
Thanks. Right back on track!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on January 31, 2009, 05:49:47 PM
We think the slime wasn't exactly slime afterall, more like cakes.

Ah, so we're dealing with cakes, not really slime.  That makes sense.  Thanks.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on January 31, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
In TAR All Stars' the Macau jump wasn't a bungee jump if you remember. It was a descender cable jump. They  may have changed it since them. I don't mean to be picky, but that might be why Zambia is listed as 2nd highest bungy jump.

Ms Bell Book......I was just using the word the blogger in Salzburg used. Since the promos have come out, it appears the "slime"  is just left over cake parts.  I am sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Boingo on January 31, 2009, 06:34:04 PM
In TAR All Stars' the Macau jump wasn't a bungee jump if you remember. It was a descender cable jump. They  may have changed it since them. I don't mean to be picky, but that might be why Zambia is listed as 2nd highest bungy jump.

Ms Bell Book......I was just using the word the blogger in Salzburg used. Since the promos have come out, it appears the "slime"  is just left over cake parts.  I am sorry for the confusion.

ummm... the Macau Tower has two types of "jumps" according to Wikipedia:

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At 233 meters, the Macau Tower's tethered "skyjump" and Bungee jump by world renowned AJ Hackett [1] from the tower's outer rim, is the highest in the world.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2009, 06:49:22 PM
Thanks Boingo, I just went to pull the site so y'all can read more. The descender cable jump is the Sky Jump, the bungy is the world's highest. Charla did the Sky Walk and the Sky Jump, you are correct about that.

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The World's Highest Bungy Jump at Macau Tower will take its guests on a free fall at a speed of up to 200km/h for the ultimate extreme journey!  Plunging from a platform 233m high, challengers will experience a 4-5 second freefall before stretching the 50 meter bungy cord nearly four times its unloaded length and rebounding at approximately 30 meters above the ground. Using a guide cable system, bungy jumpers will be able to safely experience a few rebounds before slowly landing onto a specially designed airbag.

Lordie, how many hours days did we spend on this during TARA3 , Boingo? :lol:  I could recognize that site's music in hell...

http://www.macautower.com.mo/eng/adventure/adventure_activities.asp
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2009, 07:43:16 PM
Back to TAR14:

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Whoever was corresponding with that guy in Salzburg might shoot him an email and ask him what color the team in the car was wearing, the one he gave directions too. or send him the pic of Preston/Jennifer and Amanda/Kris and let him identify them.  Either orange or the light blue would be my guess and he might remember that if prompted
--DrRox

I have sent our Salzburg source loads of pics and asked for clarification, so fingers crossed!

Also reviewed my emails from him and noticed this part again, in ref to who we now know is Cara/Jaime, as they enter the  schloss hellbrunn grounds on the way to the pitstop:

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The one in the pink dropped her water bottle, which was white. The camera man got the drop and the pick up on film, then they all started off again. They were totally heading the wrong way, convinced that lights on a pond area must be lighting the Pitstop. It took them a good five minutes to figure out where they really needed to be.


He also said they were nowhere near last...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2009, 09:34:52 PM
puddin, a good historical overview. However, there is one additional thing that Interlaken is noted for (besides being a cute Swiss town with a major railroad connection and lake connections to Thun and Spiez for which the 2 lakes are named). That is the fabled trip to the Jungraujoch, my reason for being there. The train near the top goes through an ice tunnel and there is an ice palace besides an incredible view from above 11,000 feet. I reacted to being the highest (at that point) in my life by nearly passing out, but that is easy enough to avoid if you are expecting altitude sickness.
It would be a shame to take the show to Interlaken and not show the ice palace or the Sphinx Observatory on
Jungfraujoch.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2009, 09:48:27 PM
Gorgeous panorama pictures Here (http://www.panoramaphoto.ch/jungfrau/).

And you can read more about it here (http://www.jungfraubahn.ch/en/DesktopDefault.aspx/tabid-8/183_read-808/).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Snooky on January 31, 2009, 09:56:44 PM
Now that is beautiful...
 :nitenite: :gnite:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on January 31, 2009, 10:05:10 PM
Hi, all.  I'm a first-time poster here, but have lurked here since TAR12.  I was actually once thanked by puddin for finding out about Terence & Sarah's names before TAR13 even started.  I've posted on TWoP, TV.com, and Survivor Sucks for a long time and am now looking to add this place to my list.  Provided things are kept very friendly here.

That said, I'll begin.

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The one in the pink dropped her water bottle, which was white. The camera man got the drop and the pick up on film, then they all started off again. They were totally heading the wrong way, convinced that lights on a pond area must be lighting the Pitstop. It took them a good five minutes to figure out where they really needed to be.


He also said they were nowhere near last...
I hope this doesn't make it to air, as Cara & Jaime are my favorite team, and seem like the best bet for a women's team to finally win.  This being shown might mean the editors want to make them the "stupid team," and the "stupid team" doesn't win.  (Though then again, T.K. & Rachel had a bumper crop of stupid moments, yet still won TAR12.)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on January 31, 2009, 10:27:54 PM
Welcome to the forum Ashe :hithere:

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Provided things are kept very friendly here.

Of course we are friendly, we are the anti-sucks   :sucks
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2009, 10:28:29 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, Ashe! I know you from elsewhere, and am glad you de-lurked.

And we are always friendly! :waves:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on January 31, 2009, 10:36:58 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, Ashe! I know you from elsewhere, and am glad you de-lurked.
Really?  Where?  And who?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on January 31, 2009, 11:16:48 PM
Here, there and everywhere! :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 01, 2009, 12:16:59 AM
:welcome2: to RFF, Ashe! I know you from elsewhere, and am glad you de-lurked.
Really?  Where?  And who?

Peach sees all and knows all :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 01, 2009, 12:28:03 AM
 :funny: Peach...the mystic. Our peach takes on many roles in our community!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2009, 02:26:54 AM
Presents!! :hearts:

I heard back from our Salzburg source and he was able to confirm that: italics mine

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The couple he gave directions to in the car: It was actually Amanda and Kris! The women look similar (Jennifer and Amanda), but the guy was definitely Kris. They seemed to be very tanned when I saw them, but it may have been make-up now that I think about it.

Yes, the older man and woman are the ones we saw (she was limping). ...but she does look good for her age. {this was Brad/Victoria}

Yes, the two young redheads are the women who got lost in Hellbrunn park.

The limping makes sense since we know Victoria has had foot surgery...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 01, 2009, 02:32:02 AM
Presents!! :hearts:

I heard back from our Salzburg source and he was able to confirm that: italics mine

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The couple he gave directions to in the car: It was actually Amanda and Kris! The women look similar (Jennifer and Amanda), but the guy was definitely Kris. They seemed to be very tanned when I saw them, but it may have been make-up now that I think about it.

Yes, the older man and woman are the ones we saw (she was limping). ...but she does look good for her age. {this was Brad/Victoria}

Yes, the two young redheads are the women who got lost in Hellbrunn park.

The limping makes sense since we know Victoria has had foot surgery...

The limping could also be the result of another tumble from the Segway? - B&V didn't have 'slime' on them either did they?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 01, 2009, 02:37:58 AM
Wow I expected the women to be Jennifer because the women sounded rude. Darn lol! I still am very happy thanks peach and thank our spoiler person!  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2009, 02:39:32 AM
I guess that what I am saying is that with hip dysplasia and extensive foot surgery, it is possible that she has some degree of a baseline limp. I don't think they were commented on about slime...but it was dark and would have been difficult to tell. But I'll ask! I am not sure that they would have chosen Segways though, unless they already knew how? Seems hip risky to me....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 01, 2009, 03:04:45 AM
I guess that what I am saying is that with hip dysplasia and extensive foot surgery, it is possible that she has some degree of a baseline limp. I don't think they were commented on about slime...but it was dark and would have been difficult to tell. But I'll ask! I am not sure that they would have chosen Segways though, unless they already knew how? Seems hip risky to me....

I do agree with your comments. Just throwing the alternatives out there.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2009, 03:11:01 AM
Alternatives are always good! :hearts:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 01, 2009, 04:29:56 AM
Welcome to our little sandbox on the internet, Ashe!!!!!!!

Thank you for all the work and information, Peach......I wonder, is San Diego now "southern." lol
I would have bet the farm on Jennifer, instead of Amanda. It doesn't suprise me a bit that he couldn't tell the difference between Jennifer/Amanda and used Preston/Kris to differeniate the teams. Right now, I can't tell them apart without their "colors."

I had a relative that had hip displasia when he was very young. Sounds like Victoria had all the same treatment as my relative. My relative, if he has had a very active day, will tend to limp in the evenings from all the activity of the day. I would expect Victoria to show the same from all the exertion

Again thanks for all the work
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Uncle Bill on February 01, 2009, 11:03:27 AM
 :waves: Hi everybody on this cold superbowl sunday ,
After looking for blue and white strip tents in Interlaken I have found www.balmers.com They rent tents like the one in the promo and they are called Bike Tents, you can even sleep and stay in some of them. They also have a hostel. The picture of it looks somewhat like the pitstop :duno:anyway just a thought.
remember our super sunday is two weeks from today :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Uncle Bill on February 01, 2009, 11:07:56 AM
NVM
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
I thought we decided the tents were somewhere Barvaria, Germany?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2009, 11:36:45 AM
Here are some pics for Uncle Bill.....

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0044.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14Balmerstentvillage.png)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/commercial/rff-0004-3.jpg)thumbnail:(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/th_TAR14Balmers.png) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14Balmers.png)

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The tent is situated between Interlaken and Wilderswil -- 800m from the Balmer's Herberge & Guest House, and has a spectacular view of the mountains of the Jungfrau Region.

I  :duno: Uncle Bill, sadly I don't think it is a match....The tents should be in Bavaria too, as puddin says....

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18288.msg372542.html#msg372542
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 01, 2009, 11:42:05 AM
The guy gave directions to Amanda & Kris?  I'd have thought it was Preston & Jennifer since they do wear orange.

Is that picture of Mel & Mike at the first Pit Stop or the second?  I can't be sure.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2009, 11:46:15 AM
Its most likely the first pitstop Ashe, that is what Mike is wearing during "cheese" :cheesehead << finally found one.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2009, 11:54:10 AM
The guy gave directions to Amanda & Kris?  I'd have thought it was Preston & Jennifer since they do wear orange.



That's a different source that gave us the pic of Jenn/Preston in orange, Ashe...

This comes from the person who gave us this, and no mention of orange... although I have asked again...
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A young man was driving, what I guess was his wife or girlfriend was behind him.
"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on.
I explained that they needed to turn back onto the major road they had just left, Alpenstraße, and head straight down until they passed underneath and underpass. Then they should take the very next right which would lead them down a wooded country lane.
By the time I had finished my first sentence, out of the car from the front and back passenger seats raced the camera man and the boom (sound) man, and they were both on me. I was good. Amazingly enough, I didn't look into the camera! I put a foot on my peddle to push off and ride away when the boom man caught my eye. He shook his head quickly as if to say, "Don't race off!"
The camera man turned off his camera and the boom man, an American, explained to the Austrian and me that we had to sign a release or this footage couldn't be used.
While we signed the paperwork, the woman in the backseat swore. They were in an amazing rush! The boom man turned to her and said, "Look, I told you. If you ask people questions, we have to do this. If you don't like it, don't ask for help."
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TKM809 on February 01, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
So do we have a bootlist yet? sorry if this being asked alreay
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2009, 12:11:58 PM
So do we have a bootlist yet? sorry if this being asked alreay
No and we haven't had the so called bootlist since season 11. How I hate the word "bootlist" !! Sorry, I had to rant :carryon:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 01, 2009, 02:04:17 PM
Oh, was that source who spotted Amanda & Kris someone in Germany, Peach?  If so, yeah, the picture of Preston & Jennifer was likely from the first leg, while Germany is on the second.

So do we have a bootlist yet? sorry if this being asked alreay
No and we haven't had the so called bootlist since season 11. How I hate the word "bootlist" !! Sorry, I had to rant :carryon:
Yeah, no bootlist, but if I had to speculate, based on the info and evidence known and given, I'd say this:

11th: Steve & Linda
10th: Preston & Jennifer/Mel & Mike
9th: Mel & Mike/Preston & Jennifer
8th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
7th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
5th: Margie & Luke
4th: Mark & Michael
3rd: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor
2nd: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor
1st: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor

Could be totally different from tenth and up, but that's what I love about speculation. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: Ashe on February 01, 2009, 02:23:47 PM
EP11: Beijing, China to Hawaii (USA) (Unknown location)
Air Date: MAY 3
Film Date: NOV 21-22
Tasks:
Evidence: Witness at Beijing airport spots Phil flying to Hawaii and “doublemint twins”
Possible Teams: Cara/Jamie
Problem is, are they still in the game, or just decoys?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: anon1akacolby on February 01, 2009, 04:31:25 PM

Just an observation....I don't know if it will help much in pinpointing where this picture was taken but there are what appears to be flag poles behind them and in front of the building they are at.  I would suspect not many businesses or buildings have flags poles in front of them.



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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 01, 2009, 04:36:11 PM
Good one anon1akacolby. Also I had the exact same bootlist spec in my head too Ashe lol  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 01, 2009, 04:36:24 PM
haha I am flagged out Colby as well as Interlaken'ed out  :lol: .. I have not given up all hope yet! we can find this!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 01, 2009, 05:46:44 PM
 Never give up! It will be so hard until we get better footage! :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 01, 2009, 06:19:04 PM
Oh, was that source who spotted Amanda & Kris someone in Germany, Peach?  If so, yeah, the picture of Preston & Jennifer was likely from the first leg, while Germany is on the second.

So do we have a bootlist yet? sorry if this being asked alreay
No and we haven't had the so called bootlist since season 11. How I hate the word "bootlist" !! Sorry, I had to rant :carryon:
Yeah, no bootlist, but if I had to speculate, based on the info and evidence known and given, I'd say this:

11th: Steve & Linda
10th: Preston & Jennifer/Mel & Mike
9th: Mel & Mike/Preston & Jennifer
8th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
7th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/LaKisha & Jennifer/Brad & Victoria
5th: Margie & Luke
4th: Mark & Michael
3rd: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor
2nd: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor
1st: Amanda & Kris/Cara & Jaime/Tammy & Victor

Could be totally different from tenth and up, but that's what I love about speculation. :lol:

Here's my speculation on the results:

11th:  Linda & Steven
10th:  Preston & Jennifer or Amanda & Kris (most likely Preston & Jennifer)
9th:  Mel & Mike
8th:  Brad & Victoria
7th:  Christie & Jodi
6th:  LaKisha & Jennifer
5th:  Margie & Luke
4th:  Amanda & Kris
3rd:  Mark & Michael
2nd:  Tammy & Victor (strongest team finishes second)
Winners:  Cara & Jamie (first all-female winners!)

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 01, 2009, 09:52:46 PM
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:

I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(

*Crosses fingers already*
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: makz3d on February 02, 2009, 01:32:42 PM
I think they are still in the game.

I feel that the 4th last and 5th last teams would go together to final city as decoys.  Last year it would have been Terrance & Sarah without Toni & Dallas because of what happened with pouch.

I could be totally wrong

eta:  I just went and reread the blog and there is mention of 2 teams on the blogger's plane.  I couldn't tell if Phil was actually on the same plane.  Just that blogger saw Phil waiting for his flight.  At the beginning of the blog there's mention of Three Airlines.

I've been reading all of the messages and I still feel mixed up for some things.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: georgiapeach on February 02, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
read the summaries, makz3d, they are the most helpful, thanks to puddin.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 02, 2009, 01:51:46 PM
Mine is a little bit different. I hope mine is 100% right!

11th: Steve and Linda
10th: Preston and Jennifer
9th: Mel and Mike
8th: LaKisha and Jennifer
7th: Christie and Jodi
6th: Brad and Victoria
5th: Margie and Luke
4th: Victor and Tammy
3rd: Amanda and Kris
2nd: Cara and Jamie
1st: Mark and Michael (lives in Maui, Hawaii!!!!)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: Ashe on February 02, 2009, 02:05:07 PM
eta:  I just went and reread the blog and there is mention of 2 teams on the blogger's plane.  I couldn't tell if Phil was actually on the same plane.  Just that blogger saw Phil waiting for his flight.  At the beginning of the blog there's mention of Three Airlines.
Maybe . . . Cara & Jaime are in the F3, and are one of the first two teams on the first plane (for still-in-the-game teams) out of Beijing, and there's a team in third place stuck on the third of the three flights.  Likely the team that's pretty much fallen out of it and will be ultimately finishing in third place.  Hey, it's happened every season.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 03, 2009, 06:05:09 PM
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:

I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(

*Crosses fingers already*

Hey, I like Asian Americans -- have a soft spot for them, so I'd be thrilled if Tammy & Victor won!  But I'd also like to have Cara & Jamie win if only because we've never had an all-female team win and they seem like the most likely all-female team to be in the Final 3.  Besides, I like red hair on women.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Snooky on February 03, 2009, 06:48:02 PM
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:

I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(

*Crosses fingers already*

Hey, I like Asian Americans -- have a soft spot for them, so I'd be thrilled if Tammy & Victor won!  But I'd also like to have Cara & Jamie win if only because we've never had an all-female team win and they seem like the most likely all-female team to be in the Final 3.  Besides, I like red hair on women.

Belle Book


I agree with most of your placings hooky!  I also have a soft spot for the asian siblings!  I just don't want them to be similar to Nick and Starr.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 03, 2009, 07:24:41 PM
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:

I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(

*Crosses fingers already*

Guess you didn't read Peach's post after she got the email from the blogger in Salzburg. He identified Amanda/Kris as no worse then 3rd on that leg. Peach's post is #902 in this thread and your prediction is #925. Well you have time to change your prediction before the race starts.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 03, 2009, 09:02:50 PM
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:

I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(

*Crosses fingers already*

Guess you didn't read Peach's post after she got the email from the blogger in Salzburg. He identified Amanda/Kris as no worse then 3rd on that leg.
Yeah, if either young couple goes out early this season, I see it more likely being Preston & Jennifer rather than Amanda & Kris.  The latter just looks like they'll be more cooperative than the former, which always helps.

However, I worry about them having so many fans already before the show has even started (check the CBS site).

As for Tammy & Victor being like Nick & Starr, I don't think that's gonna happen since, you know, Tammy & Victor actually look like they'll be interesting.  Nick & Starr started out as interesting, to me, but Nick's constant talking about how great he was for doing things he thought were clever but were really just unnecessary, Starr's constant talking about their "adult" relationship and how great it was, and basically them making the season boring with their repetitive winning pretty much killed all my interest in them.

Then again, I'm probably the only one here on RFF who despised the Spanglers and wishes I could erase them from my mind permanently.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 03, 2009, 09:52:57 PM
Guess you didn't read Peach's post after she got the email from the blogger in Salzburg. He identified Amanda/Kris as no worse then 3rd on that leg. Peach's post is #902 in this thread and your prediction is #925. Well you have time to change your prediction before the race starts.

Here is what I actually said:

Presents!! :hearts:

I heard back from our Salzburg source and he was able to confirm that: italics mine

Quote
The couple he gave directions to in the car: It was actually Amanda and Kris! The women look similar (Jennifer and Amanda), but the guy was definitely Kris. They seemed to be very tanned when I saw them, but it may have been make-up now that I think about it.

Yes, the older man and woman are the ones we saw (she was limping). ...but she does look good for her age. {this was Brad/Victoria}

Yes, the two young redheads are the women who got lost in Hellbrunn park.

The limping makes sense since we know Victoria has had foot surgery...

The source's only words about placement that I recall were that the "girls" (ie Cara and Jaime) were "no where near last". The placement of Amanda/Kris was never discussed, that I can recall, but swearing makes me think they were in quite a hurry...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 04, 2009, 12:30:35 AM
Ready for mine with spoilers taken into account?

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Amanda & Kris (no evidence beyond leg two)
9: Mel & Mike (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted, though not deaf)
3: Mark & Michael :groan:
2: Cara & Jaime :groan:
1: Victor & Tammy (surprise, surprise) :res:

I would rather see Mark & Michael or Cara & Jaime win, so this would just be the fifth disappointing ending in a row if they didn't! :'(

*Crosses fingers already*

Guess you didn't read Peach's post after she got the email from the blogger in Salzburg. He identified Amanda/Kris as no worse then 3rd on that leg.
Yeah, if either young couple goes out early this season, I see it more likely being Preston & Jennifer rather than Amanda & Kris.  The latter just looks like they'll be more cooperative than the former, which always helps.

However, I worry about them having so many fans already before the show has even started (check the CBS site).

As for Tammy & Victor being like Nick & Starr, I don't think that's gonna happen since, you know, Tammy & Victor actually look like they'll be interesting.  Nick & Starr started out as interesting, to me, but Nick's constant talking about how great he was for doing things he thought were clever but were really just unnecessary, Starr's constant talking about their "adult" relationship and how great it was, and basically them making the season boring with their repetitive winning pretty much killed all my interest them.

Then again, I'm probably the only one here on RFF who despised the Spanglers and wishes I could erase them from my mind permanently.

Actually, I wouldn't mind erasing the Spanglers from my mind, and maybe the whole of TAR13 with it. Any team that was interesting in TAR13 was eliminated early, leaving boring teams until the end. However in TAR14, so far, it seems like the opposite effect!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 04, 2009, 02:26:07 AM

The source's only words about placement that I recall were that the "girls" (ie Cara and Jaime) were "no where near last". The placement of Amanda/Kris was never discussed, that I can recall, but swearing makes me think they were in quite a hurry...

That is true for his latest email. His latest email only "identifies" the team he gave directions to (Amanda/Kris), and the two teams (Cara/Jamie and Brad/Victoria) that he saw arrive when he was at the Schloss.

In his orginal blog, he gave the couple directions to the Schloss, then he went home and got his wife and son. Then they went to the Schloss and when they arrived at the Schloss there were only 3 cars there at that time. So the couple he gave directions to, were one of the first 3 cars there and therefore one of the first 3 teams to check in.

"When we got to Hellbrunn, I noticed not one, but three cars that looked like the one I'd seen earlier. They each had numbers in the back window. The highest number I saw was 11."[/b]

When he and his family left the Schloss, he said there were 5 or 6 cars there.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: north09 on February 04, 2009, 02:11:41 PM
I'm a fan of Amanda and Kris, I'm consideing rooting for them or Cara and Jamie, but I don't see that quote as putting Amanda and Kris at the Schloss. All the cars are gona look the same. Unless there was something specific about the car, it's more speculation.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2009, 02:24:41 PM
In his orginal blog, he gave the couple directions to the Schloss, then he went home and got his wife and son. Then they went to the Schloss and when they arrived at the Schloss there were only 3 cars there at that time. So the couple he gave directions to, were one of the first 3 cars there and therefore one of the first 3 teams to check in.

"When we got to Hellbrunn, I noticed not one, but three cars that looked like the one I'd seen earlier. They each had numbers in the back window. The highest number I saw was 11."

When he and his family left the Schloss, he said there were 5 or 6 cars there.


Oh now I understand what you meant, I think this could be very possible.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: north09 on February 04, 2009, 02:57:44 PM
So hold on, with the cars, do the teams pick the car with their team number? Because if they do, that would pit Tammy & Victor as one of the first 3 teams at the Schloss.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2009, 03:09:22 PM
That would seem to make sense...whose team numbers do we have so far? Since we haven't seen the entry order yet?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and maybe spoilers?
Post by: DrRox on February 04, 2009, 03:32:52 PM
The bold italics are my comments.

MORE FROM SALZBURG  :wohoo:


The driver pulled down the window and asked a young Austrian man for directions. I recognized right away that the driver spoke American English, so being the helpful American I am, I pulled around the front of the car to see if I could help. The Austrian man was fishing for his English vocabulary. Both the front and rear driver's side windows were down. A young man was driving, what I guess was his wife or girlfriend was behind him.

"How do you get to Schloss Hellbrunn?" the man asked me. He and the woman were frazzled, amazingly desperate! And they were covered in what looked like an amazing amount blood, guts, and pumpkin rot. But it all looked fake. Plus they had tons of make-up on. (In an email to Peach, he identified this couple as Amanda/Kris)

I explained that they needed to turn back onto the major road they had just left, Alpenstraße, and head straight down until they passed underneath and underpass. Then they should take the very next right which would lead them down a wooded country lane.(This sounds like 5-10 minutes maximum driving time to me.)

By the time I had finished my first sentence, out of the car from the front and back passenger seats raced the camera man and the boom (sound) man, and they were both on me. I was good. Amazingly enough, I didn't look into the camera! I put a foot on my peddle to push off and ride away when the boom man caught my eye. He shook his head quickly as if to say, "Don't race off!"

The camera man turned off his camera and the boom man, an American, explained to the Austrian and me that we had to sign a release or this footage couldn't be used.

While we signed the paperwork, the woman in the backseat swore. They were in an amazing rush! The boom man turned to her and said, "Look, I told you. If you ask people questions, we have to do this. If you don't like it, don't ask for help."

"What kind of show is this?" I asked.
"A travel show," he replied.
"What channel?" I asked.
"I'm not sure," he said. Amazing, if that were true!
"What's the show called?" I asked.
Then he (sort of) came clean. He said, "I can only tell you that it's a pretty popular one!"


Off into the car they went. I wave and they raced off.

So this was some sort of race! Amazing, I thought, that I was caught in the middle of it.

I swore myself to secrecy--this was big stuff--I couldn't tell people about this! In two minutes I was home and spilling my guts to Jenny. Then one of my students came over 15 minutes later to pick up some soup, and I was telling her before she even sat down.

After my student left, Jenny suggested we head to Hellbrunn (only 5 minutes from our apartment) to see what we could see. There's a huge playground there and we promised Nikolas he could play there a bit (he said 40 minutes, and we said about 10--hey, it was getting dark!).

When we got to Hellbrunn, I noticed not one, but three cars that looked like the one I'd seen earlier. They each had numbers in the back window. The highest number I saw was 11.


Logic tells me that one of those 3 cars belonged to Amanda and Kris, unless they went on a sightseeing tour of Salzburg. The driving instructions were pretty simple, one U-turn and two other turns. I don't get the impression that he was at his home very long, approx 30 min to one hour tops. I think he says it gets dark at 5:30 that time of year and he has enough sun left to take picture safter he gets to the schloss. I don't know who took what numbered car, but the fact that the floor of that tent was clean when Tammy/Victor were doing that task tells me they were first there, so I would speculate that one of the 3 cars was theirs, without knowing any team numbers, or if the car numbers correlated with team numbers

I hope this clears up my logic. That's why I thought it would be a good idea to send him pics of the teams to identify which team he gave directions too. Whoever he gave directions, should be one of the 3 cars at the schloss when he got there with his famiy. As you know from our PMs, Peach, I was very suprised that it wasn't Preston/Jennifer.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: north09 on February 04, 2009, 05:13:32 PM
That would seem to make sense...whose team numbers do we have so far? Since we haven't seen the entry order yet?

Well last time the team numbers corresponded to the cast order at the top of the CBS site. If they did the same thing this year, it would be...

1. Amanda & Kris
2. Brad & Victoria
3. Cara & Jamie
4. Christie & Jodi
5. Preston & Jennifer
6. LaKisha & Jennifer
7. Linda & Steve
8. Margaret & Luke
9. Mark & Michael
10. Mel & Mike
11. Tammy & Victor

So if DrRox is right on the times, it would make sense to me. If this source remembers the highest number he saw, maybe he remembers the other 2.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 04, 2009, 05:17:17 PM
true, I was thinking of whose little backpack tags we might have seen, lol! :funny:

I can try to ask...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 04, 2009, 05:49:07 PM
Not saying it didn't happen, but if they made the teams take specific cars......it has to be the first time. I cannot remember that before. All I remember is mad scrambles for vehicles.....or jumping in the closest one. Do any of you people remember an instance like that before?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: north09 on February 04, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
I don't really remember anything about the cars, just that they always run like hell to them. I always thought it was just the 1st car they could get was theirs untill now. No reason to just number the cars if it's random. But again, it's only speculation.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 05, 2009, 12:51:49 AM
Based on the speculation, this is my predicted order:

11. Steve & Linda
10. Jennifer & Preston
9. Mel & Mike
8. Brad & Victoria
7. Christie & Jodi
6. Lakisha & Jennifer
5. Amanda & Kris
4. Mark & Michael
3. Margaret & Luke
2. Tammy & Victor
1. Cara & Jaime

I hope Margie & Luke shock us all and make the Final Three, although it seems unlikely based on the speculation. Another team I would love to see go far is Lakisha & Jennifer, or even Christie & Jodi, but particularly the former.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2009, 12:58:35 AM
Tammy changed partners?  ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 05, 2009, 01:01:49 AM
Sorry, I corrected it. :-[
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 05, 2009, 01:08:22 AM
I've done worse! :hugs:

The problem this season is that based on what we have seen so far, I really LIKE them all, and don't want anyone to go home first... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 05, 2009, 07:52:51 AM

The problem this season is that based on what we have seen so far, I really LIKE them all, and don't want anyone to go home first... :'( :'( :'(

Ain't that the truth, Peach. As it stands now, I think I am going to be sad with every Philmination.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 05, 2009, 11:56:11 AM
More from SwissMiss08 in reply to my questions.

From: SwissMiss08

I first approached the plaza piazza sant'antonio around 6pm (it gets dark here around 5:30pm now).  It is a little plaza in the old city (citta vecchia) which has some parking spots.  I tried to park my car and was waved away.  And there was a priest standing in front of the church, outside.  They did not appear to have been standing there for long.  It looked like they were just getting set up.

I drove past, parked, and walked back past around 6:15.  I saw a team, a short woman and a tall man with backpacks, frantically talking to the priest (or perhaps frantically talking to each other near the priest).  The woman was the one talking.  They may have been middle aged, not sure, I was never very close.

The restaurant I was heading to was closed until 7pm, so I turned around and walked past the church/plaza again, this time only the priest and a few others were standing around.  I went down to the Piazza Grande and sat in a bar waiting for the restaurant to open.

Around 7, I was again heading up towards the plaza AGAIN when we were passed by a team heading down the street, towards the vicinity of the Piazza Grande or the castle, we thought.  This team was two younger people (early to mid 20s).  I think the woman I saw was blond, but not sure.  She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more.  The "producer" (ie 4th person in group, not carrying a backpack or camera) stopped her to adjust her shirt or necklace as they walked down the street.

After this second encounter we figured out it was the amazing race, so we walked back to the plaza, yet AGAIN after dinner around 8:45.  The plaza was empty, no priest.  But all the parking spots were cordoned off.  This was not the case previously.  So we wondered if more teams were coming, and the "priest" had just gone inside to get warm.

We then walked down to the Piazza Grande and the Castle, but neither of those locations was in use.


6:15 Team = Linda/Steve Cole????

7:00 Team = Jennifer/Preston????
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 05, 2009, 02:04:23 PM
I really don't think so I would lean more towards Brad and Victoria if older and Amanda and Kris if mistaken. Preston and Jennifer are my choice for 7:00 because they I believe end up on the second flight with Margie and Luke possibly
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 05, 2009, 04:30:32 PM


I drove past, parked, and walked back past around 6:15.  I saw a team, a short woman and a tall man with backpacks,

 

7:00  She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more. 

Well, I don't think anyone seeing Brad/Victoria standing next to each other would say she was short and he is tall. They are close to same height. The only couple with really difference in height is Linda/Steve. Linda is 52, older than Victora.

I think somewhere I read that Jennifer is tall, 5'9" tall. I don't think Amanda is anywhere near that tall, but we will see soon.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 05, 2009, 05:29:09 PM


I drove past, parked, and walked back past around 6:15.  I saw a team, a short woman and a tall man with backpacks,

 

7:00  She was definitely pretty and tall - guessing 5'9 or more. 

Well, I don't think anyone seeing Brad/Victoria standing next to each other would say she was short and he is tall. They are close to same height. The only couple with really difference in height is Linda/Steve. Linda is 52, older than Victora.

I think somewhere I read that Jennifer is tall, 5'9" tall. I don't think Amanda is anywhere near that tall, but we will see soon.

What is the height difference between Margie and Luke. They would also fit the description, given that it was in poor light conditions
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: north09 on February 05, 2009, 06:19:09 PM
Luke's taller, but not by much. Both seem to be of average hight. Looking through the M/F teams, the best posibilities are Linda & Steve, Brad & Victoria, or Amanda & Kris.  Which also leaves Jennifer as our tall woman, as expected.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 05, 2009, 07:12:22 PM
I suspect the 6:15 pm team was either Linda & Steve (but they wind up being the first out anyway) or Amanda & Kris.  Jennifer & Preston are probably the team that arrive at 7 pm.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 05, 2009, 07:21:01 PM
I doubt it is Steve and Linda ! I suspect it is Amanda and Kris!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 06, 2009, 01:31:54 AM
A fwiw, because we already know they went to Germany.. I think its new? I don't recall running across it before?

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 06, 2009, 01:40:29 AM
I doubt it is Steve and Linda ! I suspect it is Amanda and Kris!

Are Amanda and Kris middle aged?..... The witness described them as, short woman, tall man and middle aged.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2009, 01:51:27 AM
A fwiw, because we already know they went to Germany.. I think its new? I don't recall running across it before?

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Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 06, 2009, 02:25:22 AM
I doubt it is Steve and Linda ! I suspect it is Amanda and Kris!

Are Amanda and Kris middle aged?..... The witness described them as, short woman, tall man and middle aged.

 :lol: They also quoted "It was 6:15pm and I saw a couple short women and tall man heading to.....They looked to be older but I couldn't really tell and I could be wrong"

I think at 6:15 when it is really rather dark they could be mistaken! And I really can't see Steve and Linda ahead of Preston and Jennifer by 45 mins indicating Steve and Linda make the first flight and Preston and Jenn miss the first and make the last!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 06, 2009, 10:15:09 AM
I doubt it is Steve and Linda ! I suspect it is Amanda and Kris!

Are Amanda and Kris middle aged?..... The witness described them as, short woman, tall man and middle aged.
Nah, I think it's either Steve & Linda or Brad & Victoria.  Both Steve and Brad are taller than Linda and Victoria, respectively.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 06, 2009, 10:39:16 AM
picture, thanks to a friend ...  :waves:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/AR14_suitace_final.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2009, 12:03:09 PM
Oh I was wondering if we were going to get a postcard again!! I LOVE it!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 06, 2009, 05:27:25 PM
That's way better than the postcard! They should put that on the website!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 06, 2009, 05:34:41 PM
That's way better than the postcard! They should put that on the website!
Agreed!  It's a lot more eye-catching than that last one was!  I'll definitely take that over TAR13's postcard!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 06, 2009, 05:58:04 PM
So great it looks amazing. Much better than TAR 13!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 06, 2009, 06:12:07 PM
Oh wow!  The bag looks cool!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 07, 2009, 12:49:26 AM
This should probably be in Media but on a whim I checked for Phil on Bonnie Hunt and saw this and had to  :wohoo:  :wohoo:

The Bonnie Hunt (http://www.bonniehunt.com/promos/friday_february_13th_joan_rive.php)

Friday, February 13th - Joan Rivers
Friday, February 13, 2009
Joan Rivers ('Men Are Stupid...'): It's Bonnie's Valentine's Day show and if anyone has an opinion on love you can be sure Joan has some choice words to share. If the title of her new book, 'Men Are Stupid...' is any indication then this should be interesting!

Phil Keoghan ('Amazing Race'): It's Bonnie's favorite reality show and it's back with a whole new cast and new race. The first episode airs this Sunday and Bonnie's pleased to welcome back one of her favorites, host Phil Keoghan, to tell us what's in store for the contestants this time around.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 07, 2009, 01:00:53 AM
Yippee!

 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: marigold on February 07, 2009, 01:38:06 AM

 :jumpy: Oh yay thats great to hear
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 07, 2009, 03:52:31 PM
Ready for my list with spoilers taken into account? (Revised!)

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Mel & Mike (guess)
9: Amanda & Kris (I just feel an early elimination from them, for some reason) (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted)
3: Mark & Michael
2: Cara & Jaime
1: Victor & Tammy

Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.

The car numbers are not usually the same as team numbers, just to clear that up. They are just randomly chosen by the teams.

Also, I have noticed that some numbers seem to have similar teams. If you look at the number 7:

S6: Lori & Bolo
S7: Rob & Amber
S9: Eric & Jeremy
S10: Tyler & James
S11: Rob & Amber
S12: Ari & Staella (never actually saw this tag, just went through the process of elimination to get it)
S13: Nick & Starr
S14: *unknown* (I would guess Tammy & Victor, Amanda & Kris, or Preston & Jennifer)

It seems like the number 7 indicates a tough or imposing team. And 2 is almost always a F/F team. But I don't know. Take it for what it's worth.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 07, 2009, 06:35:12 PM
Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted): that spoiler was unable to be confirmed, unfortunately, so take it with a grain of salt....

I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 07, 2009, 09:58:44 PM
Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted): that spoiler was unable to be confirmed, unfortunately, so take it with a grain of salt....

I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!


I'll keep the orange spoiler in mind, but I still feel they will make it to that part of the race, so I won't change it.

I have analyzed the numbers long enough to notice that the car numbers are not in any way significant (the first team to get a car doesn't even have to take #1), so that idea can be considered dead.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 08, 2009, 01:28:18 AM
and then they go on to the Sound of Music and Dracula....this isn't TAR - Movie Edition is it?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 08, 2009, 11:02:55 AM
There's still an unknown team in the F4. I just wonder why we don't have much Lakisha and Jennifer news.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: gingerman28 on February 08, 2009, 12:00:20 PM
I was just about to suggest the same thing.  Movies seem to be connected with most the locations so far:

1A Golden Eye
1B On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2.  The Sound of Music
3.  Dracula
4.  Doctor Zhivago
5.  The Lives of the Bengal Lancers
     or
     Slumdog Millionaire
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. The Last Emperor
11. Hawaii

Just a coincidence? Who knows
Title: Re: TAR 14 in the Media/News/Videos
Post by: gingerman28 on February 08, 2009, 12:07:16 PM
TAR to premiere in Romania? IN Romanian...

http://www.cotidianul.ro/amazing_race_a_filmat_in_premiera_in_romania-71475.html

Taken from the spoilers I assume ..

64,000 miles?  I think the translator converted 40,000 miles into 64,000 kilometers but still labeled it miles..
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: walkingpneumonia on February 08, 2009, 12:34:02 PM
I was just about to suggest the same thing.  Movies seem to be connected with most the locations so far:

1A Golden Eye
1B On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2.  The Sound of Music
3.  Dracula
4.  Doctor Zhivago
5.  The Lives of the Bengal Lancers
     or
     Slumdog Millionaire
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. The Last Emperor
11. Hawaii

Just a coincidence? Who knows
What about the Heidi movies? They were filmed in Switzerland. Isn't there one where Heidi's friend Peter the goatherder carries the cheese from the mountain into the city? Can we dare to hope there might be some yodeling!?!?!?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 08, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
Hahaha movie based season  :duno: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 08, 2009, 01:05:46 PM
It's just a shame they didn't save Borat in Kazakhstan for this season then :res:

Instead of cow suits, we could have seen Dallas and co dressed up in a little lime green over the shoulder outfit :-[
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: DrRox on February 08, 2009, 01:32:58 PM
"
The Bridge on the River Kwai" for Thailand
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 08, 2009, 01:37:44 PM
"
The Bridge on the River Kwai" for Thailand

That would be Kanchanaburi rather than Puket and Bangkok though wouldn't it?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 08, 2009, 02:23:14 PM
You know, I'm pretty sure you could come up with a list of movies for every season, though, so I wouldn't bet that this season is based on movies.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 08, 2009, 03:41:44 PM
Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.
Disliked them for the same reasons as I did, I wager, Hooky?
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: Belle Book on February 08, 2009, 03:44:45 PM
Don't think so, but it's still amusing to think of it as that.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 14 in the Media/News/Videos
Post by: Ashe on February 08, 2009, 03:49:09 PM
reposting these here so they don't get buried

The Amazing Race 14 Mike & Mel White Promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mTMu-dy6cs

The Amazing Race 14 Margie & Luke Promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2eyi3Iq38

The Amazing Race 14 Tammy & Victor promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjik9xMjM-w
Gee, I hope they didn't inadvertently give away the F3 by so far having them be the only three teams with their own promos.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 08, 2009, 03:53:38 PM
Ready for my list with spoilers taken into account? (Revised!)

11: Steve & Linda (no evidence beyond leg one)
10: Mel & Mike (guess)
9: Amanda & Kris (I just feel an early elimination from them, for some reason) (guess)
8: LaKisha & Jennifer (guess)
7: Brad & Victoria (guess)
6: Christie & Jodi (guess)
5: Margaret & Luke (guess)
4: Preston & Jennifer (orange was spotted)
3: Mark & Michael
2: Cara & Jaime
1: Victor & Tammy

Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.


Ah, I understand.  The Spanglers weren't my favorite team either.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR14 EP2: Your Target Is Your Partner’s Face (Germany)
Post by: Snooky on February 08, 2009, 03:58:27 PM
I love having anything that tastes good thrown at my face!  Unless it's hard!  :colors
 :lol:  :food:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 08, 2009, 04:09:15 PM
There's still an unknown team in the F4. I just wonder why we don't have much Lakisha and Jennifer news.
Right.  We already know it's potentially Tammy & Victor, Mark & Michael, and Cara & Jaime, but who could the last one be?  Maybe Margie & Luke got by the F5, after all?  Maybe Amanda & Kris?  But it would be nice to find out it was LaKisha & Jennifer.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: Kogs on February 08, 2009, 04:33:12 PM
I was just about to suggest the same thing.  Movies seem to be connected with most the locations so far:

1A Golden Eye
1B On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2.  The Sound of Music
3.  Dracula
4.  Doctor Zhivago
5.  The Lives of the Bengal Lancers
     or
     Slumdog Millionaire
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. The Last Emperor
11. Hawaii

Just a coincidence? Who knows

bangkok the man with the golden gun lol if were going bond themes lol
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 08, 2009, 05:25:42 PM
Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.
Disliked them for the same reasons as I did, I wager, Hooky?

Yep. Exact same reasons. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP2: Your Target Is Your Partner’s Face (Germany)
Post by: Coutzy on February 08, 2009, 09:15:56 PM
I think this episode will be one of the better ones of the season. Don't know why, I just feel it will be.

Dare I say it will "Take the cake?"  :funny:


 :groan: I'm awful.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: makz3d on February 08, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
read the summaries, makz3d, they are the most helpful, thanks to puddin.

Peach,

I did read the summaries on the first pg.  That's where I found the blog that I reread.  When I indicated I had been reading all of the messages I should have included summaries too.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 08, 2009, 09:28:54 PM
Belle Book, I don't hate asians, but I am just afraid they will be too Nick & Starr-ish, and I also want to wipe the Spanglers from my memory just like you, Ashe.
Disliked them for the same reasons as I did, I wager, Hooky?

Yep. Exact same reasons. :lol:
Sweet!

Oh, and btw, if the teams selected in your signature end up being the actual F5 rather than the generally-speculated one, then it'd be a pretty good one, I'd definitely say.
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: apskip on February 08, 2009, 10:18:37 PM
"
The Bridge on the River Kwai" for Thailand

That would be Kanchanaburi rather than Puket and Bangkok though wouldn't it?

Mrs. shrek, it would indeed as Kanchanaburi is 5 km from that bridge(or where the earlier version of it was).
Title: Re: TAR14 EP1: 'Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me' (Switzerland)
Post by: topaz on February 08, 2009, 10:43:08 PM
I was just about to suggest the same thing.  Movies seem to be connected with most the locations so far:

1A Golden Eye
1B On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2.  The Sound of Music
3.  Dracula
4.  Doctor Zhivago
5.  The Lives of the Bengal Lancers
     or
     Slumdog Millionaire
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. The Last Emperor
11. Hawaii

Just a coincidence? Who knows
imo, these lists could be connected to this season:

Switzerland - Golden Eye
Germany - Munich
Austria - The Sound of Music
Romania - Dracula
Russia - In Russia With Love
India - Ghandi or Slumdog Millionaire
Phuket, Thailand - The Beach
Bangkok, Thailand - Brokedown Palace
China - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and The Last Emperor
Hawaii - Blue Hawaii
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 08, 2009, 11:12:03 PM

Sweet!

Oh, and btw, if the teams selected in your signature end up being the actual F5 rather than the generally-speculated one, then it'd be a pretty good one, I'd definitely say.

Hey Ashe :waves:

Where is this generally speculated f5 list? I wasn't aware there was one :duno:

I've read a blog where someone thought they saw the cheer leaders going to Hawaii, and there was an unconfirmed sighting of 'a deaf woman' and 'the orange team' in Bangkok which mentioned the little men, but I haven't read of sightings of B/V or A/K later in the race and I don't think there is any confirmed f5 lists, at least here on RFF. :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 08, 2009, 11:19:13 PM
Mrs. Shrek, the F5 has generally been speculated to be Tammy & Victor, Margie & Luke, Cara & Jaime, Mark & Michael, and one other team that's either Amanda & Kris or Preston & Jennifer.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 08, 2009, 11:32:16 PM
I'll guess the F5 above is based on the sightings from Phuket to China, no idea how Amanda/Kris Jennifer/Preston got in there though? If it were me I'd most likely replace those 2 M/F teams with Mike & Mel for final 5 but thats a guess/my thinking.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 08, 2009, 11:44:19 PM
Yeah, everyone has their speculations, and that's cool. I'd put a few of those teams in my f5 guess also.

But for most of it I don't think there are any confirmed f5 lists or even any 'generally speculated' ones, and the M/F teams mentioned (A/K, J/P V/B) haven't been 'seen' since about leg 3. That doesn't mean they didn't make it to the final 5, but I didn't think I'd seen any evidence in the spoilers to support them making it that far, apart from a few people recently listing them in their top 5 guesses
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 08, 2009, 11:52:55 PM
yup its all speculation, nothing is a sure thing

* based on photo and witness evidence
•Linda & Steve Cole no evidence beyond leg 1
•Jennifer Hopka & Preston McCamy no evidence beyond leg 1
•Mel & Michael White photo evidence in Germany/Salzburg (leg 2)
•LaKisha & Jennifer Hoffman last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Amanda Blackledge & Kris Klicka last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Victoria & Brad Hunt  last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Jodi Wincheski & Christie Volkmer last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Mark  Michael Munoz last witnessed in Romania (leg 3) & "maybe" China/airport heading to Guilin (leg 10)
•Tamara & Victor Jih last witnessed on a Bangkok to Phuket flight (leg 7)   
•Margie & Luke Adams Phuket, photo evidence (leg 7)
•Cara Rosenthal & Jaime Edmondson eyewitness reports spotted in China airport heading to Hawaii (final leg 11)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 09, 2009, 12:07:51 AM
and there are also the two "older" men on the Bangkok to Phuket flight:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg360806.html#msg360806
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 09, 2009, 12:36:45 AM
and there are also the two "older" men on the Bangkok to Phuket flight:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17788.msg360806.html#msg360806
yeah that too, lol
It's all on page 1 of the spoiler summary.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 09, 2009, 01:32:33 AM
Wait a minute Phuket is leg 7 I need a recap!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 09, 2009, 02:07:12 AM
Yeah, everyone has their speculations, and that's cool. I'd put a few of those teams in my f5 guess also.

But for most of it I don't think there are any confirmed f5 lists or even any 'generally speculated' ones, and the M/F teams mentioned (A/K, J/P V/B) haven't been 'seen' since about leg 3. That doesn't mean they didn't make it to the final 5, but I didn't think I'd seen any evidence in the spoilers to support them making it that far, apart from a few people recently listing them in their top 5 guesses
I guess it's also kind of an assumption, considering at least one young, fit couple makes it far each season.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 09, 2009, 10:28:50 AM
Wait a minute Phuket is leg 7 I need a recap!!!!!!!!!
Phuket could be leg 7 or 8, we shall see? It all depends on what country the double/triple? legs are.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 09, 2009, 01:52:55 PM
Huh.  A little surprised Phuket is leg seven, not leg eight, as previously thought.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on February 09, 2009, 02:48:48 PM
Ashe:

Do not take that to the bank just yet. I believe there have to be 4 legs in Europe, so that means if it isn't two in Austria/Germany it will be two in Romania. Once you get to Russia, there is hardly time for more than 2 Russia, 1 India, 2 Thailand, one Guilin and one Beijing before the final leg. Count that out and you get Phuket as the 8th leg. There are different points of view than mine, but those people think AR14 will be a total of 11 legs and I think theyare kidding themselves. We'll see soon enough, probably at the start of the race when Phil summarizes the scope of the race.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: gingerman28 on February 09, 2009, 03:15:35 PM
Ashe:

Do not take that to the bank just yet. I believe there have to be 4 legs in Europe, so that means if it isn't two in Austria/Germany it will be two in Romania. Once you get to Russia, there is hardly time for more than 2 Russia, 1 India, 2 Thailand, one Guilin and one Beijing before the final leg. Count that out and you get Phuket as the 8th leg. There are different points of view than mine, but those people think AR14 will be a total of 11 legs and I think theyare kidding themselves. We'll see soon enough, probably at the start of the race when Phil summarizes the scope of the race.

I think that there may very well be two pit stops in Austria.  It would be a shame just to have the pitstop for leg two in Salzburg and then fly via Munich or Vienna to Bucharest the next morning.  We seem to have them pretty well set for them to be in Salzburg for a pitstop at the Schloss at the end of leg two, but it seems program wise best for the teams to visit more places around Salzburg before they fly off to Romania and Transylvania. 
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 09, 2009, 03:30:42 PM
But there just isn't time, G-Man...

We know from spoilers that the Salzburg PitStop was the evening of Nov 3, and  that means release AM of 11/4 (or evening of 11/4 if it is a 18-24 hour Pitstop, which several leg 2's have been).

And then we also see them in Romania by 1245 AM on 11/5, so there isn't time for another leg in Salzburg, I don't believe?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 09, 2009, 04:58:20 PM
Yeah, everyone has their speculations, and that's cool. I'd put a few of those teams in my f5 guess also.

But for most of it I don't think there are any confirmed f5 lists or even any 'generally speculated' ones, and the M/F teams mentioned (A/K, J/P V/B) haven't been 'seen' since about leg 3. That doesn't mean they didn't make it to the final 5, but I didn't think I'd seen any evidence in the spoilers to support them making it that far, apart from a few people recently listing them in their top 5 guesses

Exactly why I still insist that Preston & Jennifer can easily outlast Amanda & Kris, who just look to me like they're going home earlier.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Snooky on February 09, 2009, 05:08:00 PM
Yeah, everyone has their speculations, and that's cool. I'd put a few of those teams in my f5 guess also.

But for most of it I don't think there are any confirmed f5 lists or even any 'generally speculated' ones, and the M/F teams mentioned (A/K, J/P V/B) haven't been 'seen' since about leg 3. That doesn't mean they didn't make it to the final 5, but I didn't think I'd seen any evidence in the spoilers to support them making it that far, apart from a few people recently listing them in their top 5 guesses

Exactly why I still insist that Preston & Jennifer can easily outlast Amanda & Kris, who just look to me like they're going home earlier.

yup its all speculation, nothing is a sure thing

* based on photo and witness evidence
•Linda & Steve Cole no evidence beyond leg 1
•Jennifer Hopka & Preston McCamy no evidence beyond leg 1
•Mel & Michael White photo evidence in Germany/Salzburg (leg 2)
•LaKisha & Jennifer Hoffman last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Amanda Blackledge & Kris Klicka last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Victoria & Brad Hunt  last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Jodi Wincheski & Christie Volkmer last witnessed in Romania (leg 3)
•Mark  Michael Munoz last witnessed in Romania (leg 3) & "maybe" China/airport heading to Guilin (leg 10)
•Tamara & Victor Jih last witnessed on a Bangkok to Phuket flight (leg 7)   
•Margie & Luke Adams Phuket, photo evidence (leg 7)
•Cara Rosenthal & Jaime Edmondson eyewitness reports spotted in China airport heading to Hawaii (final leg 11)


Could be, but Amanda & Chris have more evidence of getting farther than Preston and Jennifer.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 09, 2009, 05:39:13 PM
Well the only person I'd put my money on making it to the Finish Line for sure is Phil. :winner

So often we've seen one of the seemingly 'strong teams' fail early either due to a silly mistake, or the inability to work well together.
In multiple interviews Phil has talked about a production sweepstake they run before the race to pick who is going to win it, and he's been wrong every time.

Apart from the 3 teams who have definitely been seen up to at least leg 7, everyone else has either been eliminated before then, or has just escaped observation. I could see Mike and Mel as being a 'flying under the radar team', who might not be noticed at the airport, but both Amanda/Kris and Jennifer/Preston seem like the sort of teams that would stand out and people would notice straight away.

Dunno.  :duno: Guess we'll all know for sure in a couple of months time. :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR14 EP2: Your Target Is Your Partner’s Face (Germany)
Post by: Snooky on February 09, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
I have always liked the first few legs of the The amazing Race!  Although the second legs have proved to be boring to me.  Hopefully this one will prove to be a better one!  I hardly even remember some of the second legs of some seasons!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Snooky on February 09, 2009, 06:38:27 PM
I think that we can see Cara and Jamie and probably Victor and Tammy in the finals, or at least making it far.  But the first one we'll see at the finish line will... be phil.
:winner :cheesehead
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 09, 2009, 06:58:39 PM
But the first one we'll see at the finish line will... be phil.
...and don't forget the 8 already eliminated teams also...unless one of them 'does a dallas' :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 09, 2009, 08:03:40 PM
So often we've seen one of the seemingly 'strong teams' fail early either due to a silly mistake, or the inability to work well together.
Or an inattentive travel agent's silly mistake.  (Still bitter about poor Azaria & Hendekea.  :()
Title: Re: TAR14 EP2: Your Target Is Your Partner’s Face (Germany)
Post by: Ashe on February 09, 2009, 08:32:40 PM
I have always liked the first few legs of the The amazing Race!  Although the second legs have proved to be boring to me.  Hopefully this one will prove to be a better one!  I hardly even remember some of the second legs of some seasons!
Here are the second legs I remember:

TAR1: "You're a fat bitch!"  "LEEEENNNNYYYYYYYY!"  Kim & Leslie are eliminated.
TAR2: Peggy & Claire's shocked reactions at making it to the Iguazu camp in eighth place out of ten teams when they thought they were last (and would've been were it not for Blake & Paige and Hope & Norm's bus breaking down).  Hope & Norm hit the road.
TAR3: Nothing I really remember but Tramel & Talicia being so damn bad with their jetskis, or whatever those were, including them "signing off" after their elimination.  So basically, Tramel & Talicia go home.
TAR4: Reichen & Chip rightfully face off with Steve & Josh over the way they screwed Monica & Sheree just to help Steve & Dave.  Steve & Dave's street troupe Fast Forward.  Masquerade ball Roadblock that leads to the Monica & Sheree/Amanda & Chris footrace.  Amanda & Chris lose it and are out of the race.
TAR5: "You gots to go to Uruguay to go to a foam club."  "Mine keep having sex!"  "You might have to put your hand in the cow's ass."  Start of the Chip & Kim/Kami & Karli rivalry.  Alison & Donny are off to sequester after going from first to last.
TAR6: Meredith & Maria can't drive stick.  Introduction to 6/6 Roadblock rule.  Viking games.  Meredith & Maria are sent packing.
TAR7: Rob vs. everyone over being a liar.  Brian & Greg/Megan & Heidi footrace.  Megan & Heidi get booted.
TAR8: Secret Service Roadblock.  Battlefield Detour.  Renee, Brittney, and especially Denny pile on Brock for Denny's mistake.  The Weaver Family snags their first and only leg win.  The Rogers Family gets the boot.
TAR9: Stair-climbing, ascender Roadblock that scares Danielle.  "I'm gonna slap you, woman!", complete with Phil's hilarious "If looks could kill . . ." eyebrow raise.  Lisa & Joni make their exit, and Lisa cries.  A lot.
TAR10: Dustin gets dragged by a horse.  Dustin & Kandice and Erwin & Godwin's helmet fiasco.  Flaming arrow Roadblock, Peter & Sarah's first of two leg wins.  Lyn & Karlyn beat out Kellie & Jamie since at least they know how to navigate.  Kellie quits the Roadblock after being there for three or four hours.  Kellie & Jamie are tossed.
TAR11: Boardroom Roadblock that Dustin and Mary totally blow through.  Rob & Amber's booty-shaking dance when they win their second leg in a row.  Kevin & Drew's semi-sad, semi-not-so-sad departure.
TAR12: Ronald reveals he's kind of an ass.  Hoist It/Hunt It Detour.  Ditch-vaulting Roadblock that Jason, Shana, Rachel, and Marianna blow through, while Jennifer, Kynt, Hendekea, Donald, Christina, and Kate (I guess) struggle at it.  Ronald gets his hernia.  Kate & Pat hit the bricks.
TAR13: Tina allegedly gets the planes switched.  Ken kisses Terence.  Marisa & Brooke follow Nick & Starr and wind up at log-hauling Detour when they wanted the shipyard one.  Kelly & Christy's unnecessary digging and subsequently forgetting to get their taxi to stay at the Roadblock.  Ken & Tina's first of three legs wins in a row, this one just barely over Mark & Bill.  Aja's hilarious "Aw, hay-ell!"  Nick screwing over Andrew at the Roadblock.  Anthony & Stephanie take a powder.  So . . . basically, the point in the season in which things were still exciting and not too anticlimactic (thanks for that, Nick & Starr).
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 09, 2009, 08:46:27 PM
Could we stay on topic please! This is TAR14 not TARPast.

tyia
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 09, 2009, 09:25:10 PM

Do not take that to the bank just yet. I believe there have to be 4 legs in Europe, so that means if it isn't two in Austria/Germany it will be two in Romania. Once you get to Russia, there is hardly time for more than 2 Russia, 1 India, 2 Thailand, one Guilin and one Beijing before the final leg. Count that out and you get Phuket as the 8th leg. There are different points of view than mine, but those people think AR14 will be a total of 11 legs and I think theyare kidding themselves. We'll see soon enough, probably at the start of the race when Phil summarizes the scope of the race.

I certainly agree with apskip. There is a lot of open time out there and no facts as to what they do. They certainly can do an extended pitstop in Salzburg, but it seems early for that to me. Over the years watching TAR, it seems to me that they like to "work" a 5 1/2 day week and then take a "weekend." Sort of like when I went to college and we had 1/2 day of classes on Sat.

We know they got to the pit stop in Salzburg at about dark time on Mon, Nov 3. I can see them doing some tasks around Salzburg for 1/2 day on Tue, Nov 4th, then scurrying to make flights to Bucharest and train ride to Brazov for some tasks, then pit stop around noon, if not sooner, on Wed,Nov 5th. End of Leg 3.

Then a full leg in Romanai from late Wed, Nov 5th, maybe starting around midnight to Thur, Nov 6th.  Then 36 hour pitstop with departure to Russia on 8th.

What do I base this on, almost nothing. The only "facts" we have is the comments made in the wedding. The man at the wedding that worked on the crew said they "were in Romania for 3 days and then flew to Russia." That is pretty ambiguous, but I think it could mean they were there the 5th, 6th, 7th and flew to Russia on the 8th. It could also mean they flew to Russia on the 7th. The reported tasks there just dont seem to me, to have to take up 3 days. Thats why I like 1 1/2 days racing and the weekly "weekend 36 hour pitstop." They started on Oct 31 and the Nov 6-7 timeframe is one week after the start.

I will say that I haven't checked with apskips flights/timeline for the activities in Russia yet, to see if they mesh with my ideas.  I just haven't gotten there yet. That's next on my agenda. I sure hope we get some more "evidence" when the show starts on Sunday.
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Title: Re: TAR 14 in the Media/News/Videos
Post by: Jobby on February 10, 2009, 02:34:04 AM
I JUST HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING, OMG I'M FREAKIN' EXCITED.

Yes Phil, there's something special about Season 1,3,5,7.. because those were my most favourite seasons and the only times i've got a season pick winning!!

OMG, if TAR 14 felt the same to him... :hearts: :jumpy: :wohoo: :jam: :meow: :sucks

I don't know, I'M SO EXCITED FOR SEASON 14. I kinda felt bored after TAR 8 to TAR 13.. and i hope TAR 14 relight the fire and passion in my heart for TAR once again!

<3 Phil, for hope giving! :D
I bet TAR 14 must be an exciting season then!
Title: Re: TAR 14 in the Media/News/Videos
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 10, 2009, 02:37:11 AM
I too am soooo excited for TAR14  :wohoo: :yess: I have always loved every season but I hope this will take the cake !  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 14 in the Media/News/Videos
Post by: Mister RC on February 10, 2009, 06:21:07 AM
Ditto, Kiwi Jay.  TAR 14...Go!!  LOL

I've been quite the busy person for several months, but nothing has interfered with my Sunday evenings for more than 2 years!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on February 10, 2009, 07:34:23 AM
Dr. Rox,

I have taken a look at my Timeline for clues on whether an extended pitstop is possible in Salzburg. The earliest drive yourself option would arrive maybe 1pm (due to rental car agency not open until 7am). Getting the first possible flight would get them there at 915am. First trains would get them to Salburg around 3pm. In all cases there is room for either a 24 hour pitstop after Salzburg area tasks and with the flight option there is even room for a 36 hour pitstop.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 10, 2009, 10:03:44 AM
So hold on, with the cars, do the teams pick the car with their team number? Because if they do, that would pit Tammy & Victor as one of the first 3 teams at the Schloss.


I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!


I have analyzed the numbers long enough to notice that the car numbers are not in any way significant (the first team to get a car doesn't even have to take #1), so that idea can be considered dead.

I am going to revise this info:

I am being told that the backpack numbers DO correlate to car numbers. (http://www.smileys4msn.com/displaysmiley.php?show=1005)

Howver, it is also possible that the backpack #'s may be random this year and not correlate to the team entry's, so ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 10, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
Dr. Rox,

I have taken a look at my Timeline for clues on whether an extended pitstop is possible in Salzburg. The earliest drive yourself option would arrive maybe 1pm (due to rental car agency not open until 7am). Getting the first possible flight would get them there at 915am. First trains would get them to Salburg around 3pm. In all cases there is room for either a 24 hour pitstop after Salzburg area tasks and with the flight option there is even room for a 36 hour pitstop.

I agree with you 100%. An extended pit stop in Salzburg is certainly possible and reasonable. 5 teams had checked into the Schloss Hellbrunn by 6 pm on Nov 3, leaving 5 teams yet to check in. Teams are not seen till right after midnight at 12:45 am clearing customs at the airport in Bucharest on Nov 5. That right there is approximately a 31 hour window. The common team seems to be Cara/Jaime that were observed by the Salzburg blogger getting to Schloss Hellbrunn between 5-6 pm on Nov 3 and comming out of customs in Bucharest at 12:45 am Nov 5. As by your timeline, they have to release those teams from the Pit Stop in Salzburg to be able to make those evening flights to Bucharest from Munich and Frankfurt. The Salzburg blogger's wife saw no activity around Schloss Hellbrunn at 6:30 am. He mentions that she said all the equipment was gone. To me, this means another one of the moving Pit Stop mats, similiar to Moscow. ie, check in at Schloss Hellbrunn and check out after Pit Stop who knows were or when.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2009, 01:00:43 AM
A fwiw, because we already know they went to Germany.. I think its new? I don't recall running across it before?

B&T Film GmbH  (http://www.bt-film.de/THE-AMAZING-RACE.19c8c.php)

// THE AMAZING RACE Shortly, you will find more information on this website about THE AMAZING RACE, one of the most successful reality TV formats world wide.



   :groan: The link to TAR is gone now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 11, 2009, 01:07:24 AM
That's what happens when we kiss and tell, lol! Just makes it more likely!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 11, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Darn TROLLS! It's not like it was a spoiler, it was CBS put Germany in the EP2 title.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 11, 2009, 06:18:50 PM
Well, that hotel Alpenhof looks car friendly as does the town of Stechelberg. This gives apskip's and my idea of a driving leg in Ep2 some posibilty. They can start out on leg 2, without being bunched up by train or plane schedules. I was sort of worried about all those mountain villages like Murren that are not car friendly and only accessible by train or cable car, which I would think would bunch them up. Now it looks like they can get in a car and start driving toward Bavaria as soon as released from the Pit Stop. It will be interesting to see if that actually happens.

Btw, GE says it is a 6 hr 3 min drive from Stechelberg to Ruhpolding, Bavaria.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Snooky on February 11, 2009, 06:25:51 PM
Well, that hotel Alpenhof looks car friendly as does the town of Stechelberg. This gives apskip's and my idea of a driving leg in Ep2 some posibilty. They can start out on leg 2, without being bunched up by train or plane schedules. I was sort of worried about all those mountain villages like Murren that are not car friendly and only accessible by train or cable car, which I would think would bunch them up. Now it looks like they can get in a car and start driving toward Bavaria as soon as released from the Pit Stop. It will be interesting to see if that actually happens.

I really hope so! I love self-driving!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 11, 2009, 06:41:13 PM
We of course do already know that leg 2 is, at least in part, a driving leg, as teams were spotted in the white Mercedes on the way to the PitStop at Hellbrun way back when...
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 12, 2009, 08:31:44 AM
I have a new bit of speculation, though I'm not totally going to take it to the bank just yet.  Could there be any chance that the four teams with promos -- Tammy & Victor, Mel & Mike, Margie & Luke, and Cara & Jaime -- were given promos because they're going to be the actual F4, and CBS was trying to hint at that?

If so, I'd find that to be an awesome F4!  A women's team, a brother/sister team, and not one, but two parent/child teams being the last four teams standing?  I think TAR14 will be made of win if something like that happens!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 12, 2009, 10:51:42 AM
That's good speculation, but it doesn't always happen that way. Although for TAR Asia, the teams that get a Sony video camera ad have been in the final three. I think CBS would be a bit more careful.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 12, 2009, 12:24:27 PM
That's good speculation, but it doesn't always happen that way. Although for TAR Asia, the teams that get a Sony video camera ad have been in the final three. I think CBS would be a bit more careful.

Henry and Bernie has it too, only after everyone started speculating Sam and Vince will win like Collin and Adrian thanks to the ad. :res:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: michael on February 12, 2009, 01:03:59 PM
I have a new bit of speculation, though I'm not totally going to take it to the bank just yet.  Could there be any chance that the four teams with promos -- Tammy & Victor, Mel & Mike, Margie & Luke, and Cara & Jaime -- were given promos because they're going to be the actual F4, and CBS was trying to hint at that?

If so, I'd find that to be an awesome F4!  A women's team, a brother/sister team, and not one, but two parent/child teams being the last four teams standing?  I think TAR14 will be made of win if something like that happens!

that would be cool if it were true, especially because I like all of those teams  :yess:
we'll see soon enough!

I'm so pissed, I have to miss the Survivor premier AND and TAR premier.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: mjriches2005 on February 12, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
Teams were in Romania til the 7th and left for Siberia, Russia the next day on the 8th.  My theory is that the Siberian portion of this season is only one entire leg made up for two episodes.  Meaning they are in the first city on the 8th to 9th and departed overnight on the TransSiberian Express to Novosibirsk arriving on the 10th.  This could be double-leg or a super-leg.  If i'm correct about this there should be another leg on the 11th to 12th before heading off to India.  I just figured this out and also BVM could have mistaken 9 for 10 countries too like the two new African country thing on Season 12.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 12, 2009, 04:20:40 PM
So hold on, with the cars, do the teams pick the car with their team number? Because if they do, that would pit Tammy & Victor as one of the first 3 teams at the Schloss.


I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!


I have analyzed the numbers long enough to notice that the car numbers are not in any way significant (the first team to get a car doesn't even have to take #1), so that idea can be considered dead.

I am going to revise this info:

I am being told that the backpack numbers DO correlate to car numbers. (http://www.smileys4msn.com/displaysmiley.php?show=1005)

However, it is also possible that the backpack #'s may be random this year and not correlate to the team entry's, so ???

Just to clarify, I KNOW for a fact that in Tar 12 Leg 5 they did NOT have to take the cars with their numbers. Nathan & Jennifer did not take #1, etc. But Aja & Ty did take #4 in Leg 4 (which was their tag #), so I guess the rules could have been changed beginning in TAR 13. But it certainly wasn't that way in TAR's 5-12 (excluding FE which I didn't see).

I'm sure the backpack numbers don't match the website, because the website bios are in ABC order, and the numbers don't appear to put the teams in ABC order ever (although I have yet to find out with TAR 1-4). blahblah

Trust me, you could ask me and I could give you all or most of the numbers of teams in TAR's 6-13 (again excluding FE). TAR ADDICT! :groan: :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Snooky on February 12, 2009, 05:23:33 PM
So hold on, with the cars, do the teams pick the car with their team number? Because if they do, that would pit Tammy & Victor as one of the first 3 teams at the Schloss.


I am also being told that car #'s should be considered random, darn it! It was a good thought, though!


I have analyzed the numbers long enough to notice that the car numbers are not in any way significant (the first team to get a car doesn't even have to take #1), so that idea can be considered dead.

I am going to revise this info:

I am being told that the backpack numbers DO correlate to car numbers. (http://www.smileys4msn.com/displaysmiley.php?show=1005)

However, it is also possible that the backpack #'s may be random this year and not correlate to the team entry's, so ???

Just to clarify, I KNOW for a fact that in Tar 12 Leg 5 they did NOT have to take the cars with their numbers. Nathan & Jennifer did not take #1, etc. But Aja & Ty did take #4 in Leg 4 (which was their tag #), so I guess the rules could have been changed beginning in TAR 13. But it certainly wasn't that way in TAR's 5-12 (excluding FE which I didn't see).

I'm sure the backpack numbers don't match the website, because the website bios are in ABC order, and the numbers don't appear to put the teams in ABC order ever (although I have yet to find out with TAR 1-4). blahblah

Trust me, you could ask me and I could give you all or most of the numbers of teams in TAR's 6-13 (again excluding FE). TAR ADDICT! :groan: :lol:

Doesn't it seem that team #7 is usually the alpha-team.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 12, 2009, 06:49:58 PM
I have a new bit of speculation, though I'm not totally going to take it to the bank just yet.  Could there be any chance that the four teams with promos -- Tammy & Victor, Mel & Mike, Margie & Luke, and Cara & Jaime -- were given promos because they're going to be the actual F4, and CBS was trying to hint at that?

If so, I'd find that to be an awesome F4!  A women's team, a brother/sister team, and not one, but two parent/child teams being the last four teams standing?  I think TAR14 will be made of win if something like that happens!

Possible, but I think at most we'll have just three of the ones who have the promos in the Final 4:  Tammy & Victor, Margie & Luke and Cara & Jamie.  I think Mel & Mike will be gone before the Final 4.  But I would like that Final 4, if it's true.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 13, 2009, 12:58:04 AM
And a 12 leg race! hahaha
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2009, 01:54:51 AM
Worth  pointing out, from this article with Mel:

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid72866.asp

posted here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18263.msg375569.html#msg375569

Quote
Did either you or Mike get recognized during filming?

I don’t see myself as a celebrity, but people recognize Mike all over. Back home, he has paparazzi shooting and asking him questions. When we were going through India, this woman leaned over to us on a bus and said to him, “I like your movie.” I’m a dad, so of course I got a puff of pride. I mean, I don’t see him as an actor or screenwriter, I just see him as my kid. When I see him on the screen, I don’t see the character, I see Mike. Which was really uncomfortable when I saw Chuck & Buck. [Laughs] I was so taken aback.

Also:

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Being focused is a gift. There’s a moment where there was real risk, and the whole race was at stake. I sat down and did my meditation.


Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 13, 2009, 02:04:44 AM
Gosh I hope the India thing is true!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2009, 02:07:29 AM
Gosh I hope the India thing is true!

Why would Mel lie? :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2009, 02:16:33 AM
don't forget about the pgmy warriors   :funny:

Quote
What’s scarier -- running through a third world country with no money or going on an Equality Ride to Liberty University?
To be surrounded by fundamentalists is much scarier than being surrounded by pygmy warriors or whomever. The fundamentalists are so blind, so dogmatic. I have to have police guards at universities. I had 40 Baptist clergy marching into a classroom demanding they must be heard. They just lose their cool completely.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on February 13, 2009, 07:13:03 AM
NEVERMIND!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
Note, they do not have Maui listed as a leg so will we have 11 or 12 episodes?

Start: Los Alamitos, California, United States

1. Stechelberg, Switzerland
2. Salzburg, Austria
3. Bran, Romania
4. Krasnoyarsk, Russia
5. Novosibirsk, Russia
6. Jaipur, India
7. Phuket, Thailand
8. Bangkok, Thailand
9. Guilin, China
10. Beijing, China
11. Beijing, China

Finish: Maui, Hawaii, United States


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar_14_route.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 13, 2009, 04:26:09 PM
Note, they do not have Maui listed as a leg so will we have 11 or 12 episodes?


It seems to me that they are numbering pitstops, so Beijing will be the 11th pitstop, and the finale being the 12th leg/episode :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
OMGosh, all my non-spoiled friends HATED it when CBS did this last year! :groan:

Jaipur is nice, but we have been there before in Season 1(elephants up to the fort)...

Two legs in Beijing?? Did we have this? Off to check the Timeline....
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2009, 04:47:38 PM
Last seasons map had 11 pitstops as well but with Oregon
http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/th_amazingrace.jpg
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 13, 2009, 07:26:31 PM
Okay, i think this is abit disappointing. Why do we have 2 legs in Russia again? And 2 legs in Thailand.. and THREE in China? And we're only going to 3 continents? I can't believe they are entirely leaving out Africa, South America and Australia! And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..

I hope the cast really make up the loss then.. :( :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 13, 2009, 07:29:36 PM
Okay, i think this is abit disappointing. Why do we have 2 legs in Russia again? And 2 legs in Thailand.. and THREE in China? And we're only going to 3 continents? I can't believe they are entirely leaving out Africa, South America and Australia! And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..

I hope the cast really make up the loss then.. :( :duno:
If you have been keeping up with the spoilers you would not be so disappointed or all that surprised Joab. We knew India but, not where and all the other locations were pretty much spoiled before the map release.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 13, 2009, 08:03:14 PM
CBS really likes to mess with the TAR Detectives.  :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: :knuckles: (:;) (:;) (:;) (:;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 13, 2009, 08:20:04 PM
Yeah, what a letdown...maybe we'll have a race that is actually amazing again someday. :'(

When the economy works again...if!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2009, 08:34:52 PM
I have to say from seeing all the spoiler stuff over the past 3 months, that the teams and tasks look awesome so far. Romania? whooHoo! Siberia will be a treat too I am sure, and Guilin is a gorgeous place.

So I think it is WAY to early to say that this race isn't amazing because of the route.  More miles does not always mean bigger and better or more amazing, in my book. If we go back to the "make your way to" school of TAR and truly do have less airport filler, this could really be one of the most amazing seasons ever!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: apskip on February 13, 2009, 10:32:05 PM
Note, they do not have Maui listed as a leg so will we have 11 or 12 episodes?

Start: Los Alamitos, California, United States

1. Stechelberg, Switzerland
2. Salzburg, Austria
3. Bran, Romania
4. Krasnoyarsk, Russia
5. Novosibirsk, Russia
6. Jaipur, India
7. Phuket, Thailand
8. Bangkok, Thailand
9. Gurlin, China
10. Beijing, China
11. Beijing, China

Finish: Maui, Hawaii, United States


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/tar_14_route.jpg)

So two legs in Beijing subsitutes for the second one I had in Romania. I'm disappointed as it might be a long time before the Amazing Race returns to Romania.

However, overall I disagree with the chorus that is singing the blues due to the geography of AR14. I like it a great deal!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 13, 2009, 10:46:04 PM
This particular race is Asia-heavy, but I like that. Some seasons are Euro-centric. It all balances out.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 13, 2009, 10:50:50 PM
This particular race is Asia-heavy, but I like that. Some seasons are Euro-centric. It all balances out.
Although many say that season 8 was too America-centric ;)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Neobie on February 14, 2009, 12:34:25 AM
And in cosmetic fixes, Race's route will be updated with Google maps, the show will sport new graphics and a new opening sequence, and the musical score will get a tuneup. "We had a little too many cymbals crashing," van Munster says.

Does he mean too many cymbals crashing in the opening sequence? I only hear two! :lol:

But... could it mean that the Israel theme was exported to Reshet by CBS? That would be interesting! (The Israel theme has 7 cymbal crashes though!)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: spontaneousss on February 14, 2009, 02:48:19 AM
from USA today article:

This season's racers are a more diverse lot: The show's 11 teams include Luke Adams, 23, a deaf college graduate from Monument, Colo., who travels with his mom, Margie, 51.

"We had to work a little harder because I can't hear," said Luke in a telephone interview interpreted by his mother, who noted that their choices were limited in some challenges. But "I'm a big fan and I've been watching since Season 1, and I really wanted to be the first deaf person on the show."

Also on the chase for the $1 million prize: a brother/sister team of Chinese-Americans with Harvard law degrees; a pair of former NFL cheerleaders; two flight attendants; diminutive stuntmen brothers; and Mike White, a screenwriter (School of Rock) and actor (Chuck & Buck) who travels with his gay activist dad, Mel.

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it's clearly speculated & rumored that cara/jamie, margie/luke, victor/tammy, michael/mark along with mel/mike to be the final 5 and they are the teams advertised on this article along with all those advertised screencaps for leg 1, makes me really think they might be really the final 5... in addition the flight attendants, christie & jodie are also mentioned on this article, so i hope they do consist of the final 6... hopefully this spec turns out true.. (crossing fingers)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 14, 2009, 02:56:53 AM
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"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."
The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 14, 2009, 08:17:27 AM
Okay, i think this is abit disappointing. Why do we have 2 legs in Russia again? And 2 legs in Thailand.. and THREE in China? And we're only going to 3 continents? I can't believe they are entirely leaving out Africa, South America and Australia! And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..

I hope the cast really make up the loss then.. :( :duno:
If you have been keeping up with the spoilers you would not be so disappointed or all that surprised Joab. We knew India but, not where and all the other locations were pretty much spoiled before the map release.

I have been following the spoilers, i'm just really expressing my disappointment as a whole.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 14, 2009, 08:22:01 AM
Anyway, i think the NELs are on leg 7 and leg 10, just like last year where TAR were in Russia and India and didn't move to another country.. because of the speedbump.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 14, 2009, 10:52:48 AM
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"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."
The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Good catch Mrs Shrek  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 14, 2009, 02:26:51 PM
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"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."
The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Good catch Mrs Shrek  :tup:
Great!  That means they'll either get bumped off on at least leg four or five, unless they make it farther.

This now makes me think things'll go like this:

11th: Steve & Linda (them being so hopelessly lost in that preview makes me think they won't live past the first leg)
10th: Preston & Jennifer
9th: Amanda & Kris
8th: LaKisha & Jennifer
7th: Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
5th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
4th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
3rd: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
2nd: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
1st: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime

I don't know why, but it's just a gut feeling I have that made me put down my speculated top two.  They just feel like it to me.  I could be wrong, but I'm gonna throw it out there, anyway.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: georgiapeach on February 14, 2009, 03:48:26 PM
But they tell us 2 pitstops there?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: Hooky on February 14, 2009, 05:37:38 PM
Probably means 11 legs. It said the Pit Stop was there twice because the Finish Line is not a Pit Stop, maybe?

Or maybe there really are two legs in Beijing, like Moscow in TAR13. Which means 12 legs!

It's really sort of ridiculous to have 3 legs in one country though. Hoping for expansion next season but it's looking unlikely. I hope the new redesigned intro and other things will be awesome! We'll see.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 14, 2009, 05:57:26 PM
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"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."
The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Good catch Mrs Shrek  :tup:
Great!  That means they'll either get bumped off on at least leg four or five, unless they make it farther.

This now makes me think things'll go like this:

11th: Steve & Linda (them being so hopelessly lost in that preview makes me think they won't live past the first leg)
10th: Preston & Jennifer
9th: Amanda & Kris
8th: LaKisha & Jennifer
7th: Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
5th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
4th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
3rd: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
2nd: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
1st: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime

I don't know why, but it's just a gut feeling I have that made me put down my speculated top two.  They just feel like it to me.  I could be wrong, but I'm gonna throw it out there, anyway.

I pretty much agree with you, and I'm going to go a little farther based on what Spontaneouss suggested:

11.  Linda & Steve
10.  Jennifer & Preston
9.  Amanda & Kris
8.  LaKisha & Jennifer
7.  Brad & Victoria
6.  Christie & Jodi
5.  Mel & Mike/Margie & Luke
4.  Margie & Luke/Mel & Mike
3.  Mark & Michael
2.  Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jamie
1.  Cara & Jamie/Tammy & Victor

The names I put first are those I suspect will be in the position that I put them in.  So if I think that Mel & Mike will be in fifth but I'm not certain, I'm putting their names first followed by Margie & Luke's.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Neobie on February 14, 2009, 08:34:42 PM
The answer to Sukhothai (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9kin_Express_4,_la_route_des_Dragons_(France)#Le_parcours)...

(Thailand has had a very busy year - the races' cumulative curse effect?)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 14, 2009, 08:54:36 PM
The answer to Sukhothai (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9kin_Express_4,_la_route_des_Dragons_(France)#Le_parcours)...

(Thailand has had a very busy year - the races' cumulative curse effect?)
I forgot about that picture, thanks Neobie!

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Locations, spoiler summary on page 1
Post by: Snooky on February 15, 2009, 08:55:47 AM
Probably means 11 legs. It said the Pit Stop was there twice because the Finish Line is not a Pit Stop, maybe?

Or maybe there really are two legs in Beijing, like Moscow in TAR13. Which means 12 legs!

It's really sort of ridiculous to have 3 legs in one country though. Hoping for expansion next season but it's looking unlikely. I hope the new redesigned intro and other things will be awesome! We'll see.

In the case of 11 legs, they could use it as somewhat as an intermediate destination.  But if there are twelve legs than it would probably mean that they would stay in Beijing for 2 legs.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: bag on February 15, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Forgive me for probably being totally unaware of the circumstances surrounding this, but Mel & Mike said in their interview that they were travelling by bus, right? So is it at all possible they flew in somewhere else and then travelled by bus to Jaipur?  :duno: I'm not at all familiar with Indian buses so this is just a pure guess.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: cba on February 15, 2009, 03:50:27 PM
And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..

That's the price for racing in Switzerland!  ;D
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 15, 2009, 09:48:12 PM
And i can't believe they are spending more than 50% of the race in 3rd world countries just to cut down the cost..

That's the price for racing in Switzerland!  ;D

Yes, Switzerland must be damn expensive for 11 teams to go. :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 16, 2009, 12:24:31 AM
Thought it was interesting that sequesterville is Thailand  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18417.msg376746.html#msg376746)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ruth on February 16, 2009, 03:43:57 AM
Oh gosh... I don't want Amanda and Kris to go so early!!! :'(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2009, 05:44:43 AM
Thailand! That is a surprise! Didn't we have something that said Portugal? ???

Any racer sightings out of Koh Samui will need to be looked at w/ suspiscion, I guess~!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: eragon on February 16, 2009, 06:18:11 AM
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"Siberia was cold, and I don't care for the cold at all," said Lakisha. "In Romania, the people live such a different life than what I'm used to seeing. It really gives you a greater appreciation for what you have."
The last confirmed sighting of this team had been Romania, but I guess this suggests they make it at least 1 or 2 legs further on, in to Siberia
Good catch Mrs Shrek  :tup:
Great!  That means they'll either get bumped off on at least leg four or five, unless they make it farther.

This now makes me think things'll go like this:

11th: Steve & Linda (them being so hopelessly lost in that preview makes me think they won't live past the first leg)
10th: Preston & Jennifer
9th: Amanda & Kris
8th: LaKisha & Jennifer
7th: Brad & Victoria
6th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
5th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
4th: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
3rd: Christie & Jodi/Mel & Mike/Mark & Michael/Margie & Luke
2nd: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
1st: Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime

I don't know why, but it's just a gut feeling I have that made me put down my speculated top two.  They just feel like it to me.  I could be wrong, but I'm gonna throw it out there, anyway.

I pretty much agree with you, and I'm going to go a little farther based on what Spontaneouss suggested:

11.  Linda & Steve
10.  Jennifer & Preston
9.  Amanda & Kris
8.  LaKisha & Jennifer
7.  Brad & Victoria
6.  Christie & Jodi
5.  Mel & Mike/Margie & Luke
4.  Margie & Luke/Mel & Mike
3.  Mark & Michael
2.  Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jamie
1.  Cara & Jamie/Tammy & Victor

The names I put first are those I suspect will be in the position that I put them in.  So if I think that Mel & Mike will be in fifth but I'm not certain, I'm putting their names first followed by Margie & Luke's.

Belle Book


I agree to you Belle Book for the 1st & 2nd place teams. But here is what I thought.

11 - Preston & Jennifer (after Leg 1)
10 - Linda & Steve
9 - LaKisha & Jennifer
8 - Brad & Victoria
7 - Mel & Mike/Christie & Jodi
6 - Mel & Mike/Christie & Jodi
5 - Margie & Luke
4 - Amanda & Kris/Mark & Michael
3 - Amanda & Kris/Mark & Michael
2 - Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
1 - Tammy & Victor/Cara & Jaime
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 16, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
Thailand! That is a surprise! Didn't we have something that said Portugal? ???

Any racer sightings out of Koh Samui will need to be looked at w/ suspiscion, I guess~!
I don't recall anything about Portugal? and the sightings we have around Thailand, besides Coutzys fake spoiler, look legit as in race mode not decoys or whatever.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation and Sightings!
Post by: walkingpneumonia on February 16, 2009, 06:04:16 PM
OK well, I was sent this on facebook,
take it for what it's worth ....

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I have some information regarding TAR 14, but unfortunately the website won't send me an activation email, so I am passing this info on the only way possible for me at the moment.

One of my mothers friends saw several teams in Thailand and because she is a TAR fan, she recognized them straight away and began talking to them.

One of the teams was the father/son team

One was the young dating team in orange, one of whom was deaf.

The third team was a team of two male dwarfs (possibly the 'two short men')

She spoke with the deaf woman for a long time in the airport, and she whispered 'we're in a race' to her. The deaf woman also said to trip the dwarfs, they aren't nice people.

There were camera men with every team who were being very careful about people taking photos. In spite of this, she said she managed to get several good photos of the teams she saw.

I will send the photos when I can get my hands on them.

If this were true that would mean the F4 is: two short men, father/son, orange auburn couple, and a f/f team ....

I'm not buying it, but i wanted to post it anyways just in case lol.

I know we never saw the proof for this spoiler - but maybe what was seen was teams either on their way to sequesterville or on their way from sequesterville to Hawaii? They at least described the teams correctly back before we had much information.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2009, 06:12:21 PM
No this is clearly a fake spoiler.

Coutzy says later that the date was a week or two ago, counting back from 11/28. Preston/Jenn were elim'd on 11/2, no way they were seen in mid Nov by anyone.  Esp someone who "talked to them a long time" and says she was deaf! :groan:

Bogus through and through.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2009, 06:14:44 PM
Thailand! That is a surprise! Didn't we have something that said Portugal? ???

Any racer sightings out of Koh Samui will need to be looked at w/ suspiscion, I guess~!
I don't recall anything about Portugal? and the sightings we have around Thailand, besides Coutzys fake spoiler, look legit as in race mode not decoys or whatever.

Yes, all of our sightings except for the fake one have been in Bangkok or Phuket, so all legitimate.

But if we were to get a sighting for KOH SAMUI, then we would have to look again.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 16, 2009, 10:47:50 PM
fwiw I just sat through the Insider clips and Cara/Jamie Victor/Tammy Marge/Luke have an alliance and it looks like Michael & Mark are in that alliance as well.

Amanda & Kris were aligned with Preston & Jen who were also aligned with Mike & Mel

No one wants to be aligned with Linda and Steve because they are too slow



Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 16, 2009, 11:42:00 PM
fwiw I just sat through the Insider clips and Cara/Jamie Victor/Tammy Marge/Luke have an alliance and it looks like Michael & Mark are in that alliance as well.

Amanda & Kris were aligned with Preston & Jen who were also aligned with Mike & Mel

No one wants to be aligned with Linda and Steve because they are too slow





I'm not complaining a Cara/Jamie Victor/Tammy Marge/Luke alliance. But that's sad nobody wants Linda/Steve, cause underdogs always surprises us!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Ashe on February 17, 2009, 01:59:09 AM
Amanda & Kris were aligned with Preston & Jennifer, who were also aligned with Mel & Mike.
That makes sense, as the three of their teams were all on the first airport shuttle together when they got to LAX.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 03:56:42 AM
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they lived in Sheraton and the pit top was Sun-Moon-Tower
- spoiler for Guilin, China leg.

(http://image.photos.nphoto.net/200612/21/05c000516e2cf00ca83d70be2f55302e.jpg)
Also known as 日月塔 in chinese.

Sorry, just looking for a place to store spoilers, been looking for spoilers in chinese.. just in case there is. :funny:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 04:24:03 AM
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and a mountain named Di-Tsai was also visited.

Anyway, it's actually called Die Cai Shan (叠彩山).

(http://www.west-meet-east.com/t1g2010a.jpg)

http://www.west-meet-east.com/travelgl.htm#dcs (http://www.west-meet-east.com/travelgl.htm#dcs)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 09:25:03 AM
From wikipedia -

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Leg 5 quote's - "They Did The Double On Us!"

Totally sounds like a Mark and Michael quote to me.

From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/double

Quote
4. To replace an actor in the actor's absence or in a certain scene.

Sounds like a stuntman term, since a stuntman.. is sometimes a double.. to help the actors/actresses perform dangerous stunts that they cannot do.. and Mark and Michael are highly to be the team using the term?

And they.. i'm speculating that they are refering to a team who look really alike each other?? Cara and Jaime?? :duno:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 17, 2009, 09:58:54 AM
Nice work!!  Do keep looking for the Chinese spoilers please! And great idea on the title! :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:03:06 AM
Peach, i really know how hard is it to look for spoilers now. (:;)

I searched so many terms but to no avail!! But i shall not give up.. :(
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:03:35 AM
Is it better to use yahoo or google for search engines?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:10:55 AM
I found something!!!

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知道23日下午接到旅行社的电话,并按要求在当天晚上7点半去到大宇饭店,才知道原来是要做T.A.R.节目制片组的PRODUCER ASSISTANT(P.A.)。那天晚上的JOB就是接机。

23日晚上11点40分左右终于到了两江机场。晚上的郊区真的好冷,而我只有身上的两件薄薄的衣服,明明冷得发抖还不得不死命装做还撑得住。终于在24号凌晨0点30分左右接到了我负责的PRODUCER,J.R..那天晚上回到住的地方已经是凌晨2点多了。

This girl was asked to be the PA of TAR!! She received the PRODUCER on the flight to Guilin on the 23rd, at 11.40pm!! I'm going to read the whole post and translate it!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:17:08 AM
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J.R.和SETH是ART DEPARTMENT的,下午回到饭店后,我和NORA就一直在帮忙做道具。确切点来说,NORA一整天都在做道具。后来J.R.说,道具要在晚上9点半前全部运到叠彩山顶并且摆好装饰好,然后我们四个,再加两个桂林方面负责道具的师傅,不得不放弃好好吃饭的想法,赶做道具。8点多的时候,道具还没全部完成,但是也要把完成的那部分运去山顶了。

ON 24TH - She helped this 2 production team workers J.R and Seth and another girl named Nora to make the props needed by the teams. Thus we now know that the teams haven't even arrive in Guilin China on 23rd. And she said the props needed to be done and prepared for the teams before 9.30pm. They weren't done even by 8pm, but the production teams still went on to place what they have done on Die Cai Shan (the mountain) anyway.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:20:13 AM
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最后做完道具回到住的地方,已经是凌晨4点了。

6点再次出现在饭店。我真是超人,连续工作20个小时,WITH一个小时的睡眠。

去到OFFICE的时候发现有人比我更超人,SETH一个晚上都没睡。

25日THE SHOW正式开拍。而我又在风中度过AWFUL的大半天……


They finished the props at 4am on the 25th. And she ended stating that teams will be in Guilin on 25th November!! :jumpy:

So we got our dates wrong!!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
Which is weird... :groan: Because the race should have been in Hawaii on the 21st?? :groan:

Oh dear, this is sooooo confusing.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 17, 2009, 10:32:44 AM
There is something wrong. Teams and Phil DEFINITELY  flew out of Beijing on the 21st, and the race finished the next day on the 21st (International Dateline instant replay) as far as we know.

Is this perhaps the date posted, or are they for sure saying the date they did whatever? If so, may not be for TAR.....


Can you translate it for us :please:

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:38:34 AM
Okay, she made the post on the 21st November. Which is WEIRD because how did she know what was going to happen in the next few days?

Unless there's something wrong with the blog dates.. OR.. producers told her to mix up the dates if she wants to blog about it so as to throw us off?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 17, 2009, 10:50:14 AM
If she made the post on the 21st, that fits :jumpy: because we believe teams were in Guilin 18-20. So she is talking about something that already has happened? So that all fits...

Not sure why she has the other dates wrong? Are we losing something in translation? ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 17, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
If she made the post on the 21st, that fits :jumpy: because we believe teams were in Guilin 18-20. So she is talking about something that already has happened? So that all fits...

Not sure why she has the other dates wrong? Are we losing something in translation? ???

Yes, the blogpost is indeed on the 21st and she recounted EVERYTHING she has done for the past few days, on her job working as a product assistant..

I think she deliberately edited and changed the dates.. because she isn't allowed to reveal the real time and date?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 17, 2009, 03:40:05 PM
That could be, Joab. The main thing you found some more stuff for us that is definitely appreciated! :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: DrRox on February 17, 2009, 03:59:42 PM
Thanks Joab.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 17, 2009, 06:51:35 PM
fwiw I just sat through the Insider clips and Cara/Jamie Victor/Tammy Marge/Luke have an alliance and it looks like Michael & Mark are in that alliance as well.

Amanda & Kris were aligned with Preston & Jen who were also aligned with Mike & Mel

No one wants to be aligned with Linda and Steve because they are too slow





I'm saddened by the fact that no one wants to be aligned with Linda & Steve but I can see why.  As for the other alliances -- it's interesting that four of the presumed Final 5 teams are in an alliance.  I wonder if those four are the Final 4?

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 18, 2009, 10:59:40 PM
Thanks to Joab's excellent find:

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On the 24th morning, she reached the hotel at 7.30am in the morning and started working. Because filming will begin on the next day, they have to finish all the preparation by today and ensure that nothing goes wrong. She talks about how the foreigners (production team) does not have the habit of taking an afternoon nap and some of them didn't even take their lunch. She worked for the entire day and only ate a few biscuits and felt awful.

 kept ourselves busy with making the props. J.R told us that the props must be done by 9.30pm and transported up Die Cai Shan to be prepared and put into place. Then the four of us (Seth, J.R and Nora), together with another 2 masters at making props from Guilin, had to give up the idea of eating a proper meal to rush out the props. At around 8pm, the props were still not done but they had to move them up to the mountain already.
We were able  to make contact but she was unable to tell us more:


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Hello,

Looks like you guys are big fans of the show!

I'm not very good with dates; usually just remember which day of the week it is. Thinking back, I'm not very sure with the dates, sorry!

... we couldn't know exactly what the activities are.


My guess is that she added a week to the dates, perhaps just looked at a calendar in error?

Anyway, we can tie this in with Neobie's excellent detective work, hopefully he will add his nice summary here! :hearts:



Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 18, 2009, 11:06:18 PM
Good detective work Joab  :jam:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 18, 2009, 11:39:31 PM
Good detective work Joab  :jam:

 :jam: Nothing compared to what you guys have done. The only thing i confirmed was they did when to the mountain for a task.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 19, 2009, 01:51:30 AM
Good detective work Joab  :jam:

 :jam: Nothing compared to what you guys have done. The only thing i confirmed was they did when to the mountain for a task.

Every little bit helps fit the puzzle together :jumpy: :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 19, 2009, 02:13:43 AM
I have absolutely no luck with Beijing. I don't think they went to the Olympic Stadium. It would have been a crazy sighting and people would have at least posted it.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 19, 2009, 02:16:16 AM
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呃……好像是15吧,不太记得了,好久咯,而且我一般对日期不是很有概念,只记得星期几,呵呵~

She replied to the tag on the board, indicating that it could have been since the 15th that she was talking about. But it was so long ago and she couldn't remember.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2009, 10:31:20 AM
I have absolutely no luck with Beijing. I don't think they went to the Olympic Stadium. It would have been a crazy sighting and people would have at least posted it.

Remember CBS/TPTB put this in the "Montage" videos, i don't think we had any sightings though.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR14/promo1/rff-0004-4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 19, 2009, 10:55:37 AM
Hmmm, there would be obvious sightings if they did went.. there's too many people in China. I don't think there have been any sightings in Beijing yet right?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Mrs Shrek on February 19, 2009, 03:35:15 PM
Hmmm, there would be obvious sightings if they did went.. there's too many people in China. I don't think there have been any sightings in Beijing yet right?

It's much easier to spot 22 stressed Americans with film crews running around, than 6-8, so sightings are much more common at the beginning of the race. It is more than possible that they weren't spotted and blogged about, or weren't actually identified as Amazing Race contestants. We definitely know they went to Beijing from the official CBS pitstop map, and press articles have mentioned an Olympic themed task, so I don't doubt they went there - we just haven't got the independent eye witness accounts to get more details of actual tasks.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 19, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Remember too that during TARA 3 filming I received several tips regarding the use of Bird's Nest Stadium, which did not happen. Wonder if they were referring to this instead? ???
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2009, 05:09:21 PM
Hmmm, there would be obvious sightings if they did went.. there's too many people in China. I don't think there have been any sightings in Beijing yet right?
Well in the insider clips teams are sitting around LAX waiting for their flights. People are just walking around them like its not a big deal. Some even borrowed laptops to find the best directions the church in Ticino. Not one reported sighting this time around in LAX.....Whats up with that?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 19, 2009, 08:49:11 PM
Perhaps the producers swore people to those non-disclosure agreements?  :duno: :duno: :meow: :meow: :meow:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 19, 2009, 08:51:26 PM
Perhaps the producers swore people to those non-disclosure agreements?  :duno: :duno: :meow: :meow: :meow:
All those people? Did you watch the insider clip? There are people everywhere. I guess in LA when people are being filmed in an airport its no big deal?  to them :meow:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 19, 2009, 08:52:16 PM
Well, there have been quite a few reality shows filmed in airports so perhaps people are used to it by now.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2009, 09:55:58 PM
From wikipedia -

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Leg 5 quote's - "They Did The Double On Us!"

Totally sounds like a Mark and Michael quote to me.

From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/double

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4. To replace an actor in the actor's absence or in a certain scene.

Sounds like a stuntman term, since a stuntman.. is sometimes a double.. to help the actors/actresses perform dangerous stunts that they cannot do.. and Mark and Michael are highly to be the team using the term?

And they.. i'm speculating that they are refering to a team who look really alike each other?? Cara and Jaime?? :duno:

fwiw, Wiki has pulled those episode titles, I only trust the titles if they come straight from CBS or one on the on-line tvguides.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 20, 2009, 11:19:30 PM
Yes, the preliminary title of Episode 2 called, "Linda and Steve Get Eliminated" was not official. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 20, 2009, 11:21:19 PM
Yes, the preliminary title of Episode 2 called, "Linda and Steve Get Eliminated" was not official. :lol:
:lol: your killing me here
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 21, 2009, 06:21:45 PM
Yes, the preliminary title of Episode 2 called, "Linda and Steve Get Eliminated" was not official. :lol:

 :funny:  But it would've been true!

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 21, 2009, 11:02:25 PM
Yes, the preliminary title of Episode 2 called, "Linda and Steve Get Eliminated" was not official. :lol:
:lol: your killing me here
You know you love me. :neener: :neener: :waves: :waves: :waves: :<3 :<3 :luvu: :luvu: :luvu: :luvu:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Moo on February 22, 2009, 07:49:07 AM
Hi guys :waves:, I'm not new to this website but its my first time to comment on the forums, It took me a while to really join the forums itself.

First, I must say, TAR detectives here are so cool! :hearts: :jumpy: The Amazing Race is my favorite reality show (heck, its the only reality show that I religiously watch and follow) and all of you provide such amazing spoilers and information, it makes me so much eager and anticipate the next episodes!

Anyway, I just kinda observed (and rewatched the 1st episode like 4 or 5 times because of its awesomeness), Before the brand new, lavish, techno intro, as teams were leaving Los Alamitos, only 5 teams were featured, Mel/Mike, Tammy/Victor, Margie/Luke, Amanda/Kris, and Cara/Jaime. Could CBS be ACTUALLY spoiling us with our top 5 teams? Base on what I've mostly read, 3 - 4 of these teams were really seen racing "extensively" in Thailand, and  in Guilin/Beijing, even taking flights to Hawaii...

So guys, what's your take on these?

Thanks for all those infos, Us fans are really the heart and soul of the show! More power!

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MTAR2: (http://i27.[banned image hosting site].com/2mnm4rd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2009, 08:01:57 AM
 :hithere: Mouyou! :welcome: to RFF! Thanks for the kind words, hope you have fun!

We have no sightings of Amanda or Kris after this episode, so we can't comment on their placing.

You can find a full spoiler update here, thanks to puddin's hard work!
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17805.0.html

Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Hooky on February 22, 2009, 02:02:28 PM
I hope that doesn't turn out to be a deliberate spoiler...I don't want CBS actually spoiling us. It's much funner to figure it out for ourselves!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 22, 2009, 02:27:51 PM
I don't think it's entirely the truth.  Although Amanda & Kris were speculated to make the Top 5 this leg, they weren't spotted beyond Salzburg and the others (with the exception of Brad & Victoria) were, so I think they won't make the Top 5.  The other four -- maybe so.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2009, 02:34:38 PM
Belle, I don't believe WE have a spotting in Romania?  If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would love to see it. I like this couple, wish we did have more evidence for how far they go!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2009, 03:01:39 PM
In Romania, Romaniafan has given us Tammy/Victor Jodi/Christie Kisha/Jen Michael/Mark & Cara/Jamie.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Belle Book on February 22, 2009, 08:12:01 PM
The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.

Belle Book
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2009, 08:44:53 PM
The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.

Belle Book

It makes sense now  :tup:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: michael on February 22, 2009, 08:48:28 PM
The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.

Belle Book

It makes sense now  :tup:

 :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 22, 2009, 09:49:37 PM
The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.

Belle Book

It makes sense now  :tup:

 :lol:
shush you  :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: michael on February 23, 2009, 01:06:20 AM
The others must be on an earlier flight to Romania, especially considering what I saw tonight.

Belle Book

It makes sense now  :tup:

 :lol:
shush you  :lol:

I speculate that I should get back on topic.
 :flirt:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: TARAsia Fan on February 23, 2009, 01:28:09 AM
You speculate right. :lol:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 23, 2009, 01:39:46 AM
 :lol: I finally watched. Loving this season 100%  :yess:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Moo on February 23, 2009, 04:28:22 AM
Yield returns?
watch the link as Phil interviews Amanda and Kris, he clearly says something about the yield...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwm9_7Gu6FI
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: bag on February 23, 2009, 06:16:47 AM
It could, but I think at this point it's highly unlikely. :\ I don't think they'd suddenly reintroduce the yield after being gone for two seasons.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Jobby on February 23, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
It could, but I think at this point it's highly unlikely. :\ I don't think they'd suddenly reintroduce the yield after being gone for two seasons.

I will not be surprised. But i guess production team loves the U-TURN more. At least they get to show teams completing a task, rather than just standing there and drawing on other team's photo.

But i won't be surprise if they introduce new concepts into the race this season. And i hope they do too. Maybe a new penalty for NEL, after watching how teams does not get affected much by a Speedbump. But a Speedbump is cool, it shows us more for the country. (Kynt and Vyxsin yoga in TAR 12.. i didn't know indians do YOGA! :D)
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Moo on February 24, 2009, 06:32:29 AM
Hi guys, thanks for all the warm welcome!   :waves:

Just a tad information, while I was re-watching episode 2, A Tammy/Victor confessional stood up my sight, not because of what they have said, rather probably a spoiler, It came in the first half of the race and the location of their confessionals looked like in the final leg/city in Maui. (Its a place outside... Not snowing - Not probably in Romania, as they are wearing the same clothes on the first leg... It doesn't look like Thailand, India or China either... ) When I figure where that clip is, I'll post more information. Thanks!

NEW EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOpff2V_YE

You can see the image at 3:52 - 3:53 minutes
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: eragon on February 24, 2009, 06:34:09 AM
In Romania, Romaniafan has given us Tammy/Victor Jodi/Christie Kisha/Jen Michael/Mark & Cara/Jamie.


which are probably the teams on the 2nd flight??
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: hakushu8 on February 24, 2009, 09:23:34 AM
Hi guys, thanks for all the warm welcome!   :waves:

Just a tad information, while I was re-watching episode 2, A Tammy/Victor confessional stood up my sight, not because of what they have said, rather probably a spoiler, It came in the first half of the race and the location of their confessionals looked like in the final leg/city in Maui. (Its a place outside... Not snowing - Not probably in Romania, as they are wearing the same clothes on the first leg... It doesn't look like Thailand, India or China either... ) When I figure where that clip is, I'll post more information. Thanks!

NEW EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOpff2V_YE

You can see the image at 3:52 - 3:53 minutes

Quite frankly, the brownish swaying things look either like tall grass infloresence or bamboo. So you gotta take all those three places into consideration again. Also, talking about "unprogramming decades of blah blah" doesn't equate for a finale confessional, because you can't unprogram at the end (unless you had a very INV edit in the beginning and your story arc just got going in the finale).

Also, since you mentioned that they had their leg 1 clothes, it "may" have been a leg 1 confessional.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2009, 09:42:51 AM
I think the "unprogramming" refers to family/relationship  issues and how they relate to each other and has nothing to do with the show programming at all....

Here is the shot in question:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2014/TAR14ep2T-Vconfessionalwhere.jpg)

Good eye, Mooyou!

Although my guess would lean towards not-Hawaii as well.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: hakushu8 on February 24, 2009, 10:06:42 AM
Yer. They want to unprogram the "elders never needed to listen to the youngins" channel... I guess I quoted too literally.

Well now those things look like grass, and so I nominate Saccharum spontaneum.  :lol:

(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:hyk7lDiqBF2BSM:http://www.stuartxchange.com/Talahib.jpg)

Wikipedia says it's native to South Asia, so maybe that clip is from India. Hmm... Although my first thought was that the clip occurred in Thailand. Anyways, the grass I mentioned can be found anywhere (we have lots of them here), so India may not be it.
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: puddin on February 24, 2009, 10:34:14 AM
I'm pretty sure that scene is from Tammy & Victors B-roll/ Intro just as the other teams have one.

Heres Margie and Luke's ....

then the sisters and on and on
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2009, 10:43:43 AM
puddin has it! :jumpy:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2009, 12:18:55 PM
Those plants grow around here in LA.  I don't know what they are.

But if you make the mistake of picking the big stem, and bringing it home, you will be cleaning bits of fuzz out of your trunk until it's time to buy a new car.   :groan:
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: georgiapeach on February 24, 2009, 12:38:24 PM
pampas grass (http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4GFRC_enUS311US311&q=pampass%20grass&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi)?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Chateau d If on February 24, 2009, 12:40:25 PM
Yep, that's it!
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 24, 2009, 01:01:30 PM
OMG Who put giz us a geez there !  :funny: Ohhh PUDDIN!!! OR IS IT PEEACCCH?
Title: Re: The Amazing Race 14 Speculation on Spoilers
Post by: Moo on February 25, 2009, 05:15:40 AM
Hi guys, thanks for all the warm welcome!   :waves:

Just a tad information, while I was re-watching episode 2, A Tammy/Victor confessional stood up my sight, not because of what they have said, rather probably a spoiler, It came in the first half of the race and the location of their confessionals looked like in the final leg/city in Maui. (Its a place outside... Not snowing - Not probably in Romania, as they are wearing the same clothes on the first leg... It doesn't look like Thailand, India or China either... ) When I figure where that clip is, I'll post more information. Thanks!

NEW EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOpff2V_YE

You can see the image at 3:52 - 3:53 minutes

Quite frankly, the brownish swaying things look either like tall grass infloresence or bamboo. So you gotta take all those three places into consideration again. Also, talking about "unprogramming decades of blah blah" doesn't equate for a finale confessional, because you can't unprogram at the end (unless you had a very INV edit in the beginning and your story arc just got going in the finale).

Also, since you mentioned that they had their leg 1 clothes, it "may" have been a leg 1 confessional.

Hi guys, thanks for the comments, At first, It really looks like its been shot in the finale, but again, looking at all the flora, we could really say that it could be pre-race, India or someplace else, With pictures you all have posted too,

Being on the other side of the world where we see American soil <= Television (specifically TAR for me :)), At first would really have thought that it is indeed the Finale, since most of the time, we see teams running to the finish line with their so called "uniforms" during the time they left the starting line, as well as their photos in the website.

I also think that it couldn't have been in Leg 1, because the producers would probably showcase the alps or snow to fit the leg's theme.

It looks to me that