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Title: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2008, 08:15:26 PM
Sunday, Nov. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE-For the first time in the history of the series, Race takes teams to Kazakhstan, where the remaining racers have a close encounter of the "bird kind" when they are forced to contend with 30,000 chickens in their path to the pit stop. Phil Keoghan hosts

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20081023cbs02
Title: Re: EP 8: 11/16 (Title to follow)
Post by: Belle Book on October 23, 2008, 08:29:47 PM
I wonder why they skipped information on Episode 7, which is on November 9th.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP 8: 11/16 (Title to follow)
Post by: Slowhatch on October 23, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
This page (http://kazakhstan.orexca.com/eagle_hunting_kazakhstan.shtml) states the Sunkar falcon farm is in the Alma-Arasan gorge south of the city; after doing a little translating ("Kennel hunting birds and dogs"), I'll make a guess and say it's here (http://www.wikimapia.org/3119658/ru/%D0%9F%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA).
Title: Re: EP 8: 11/16
Post by: puddin on October 24, 2008, 01:31:26 PM
Clues:
I'm Like An Angry Cow
WHEN THE RACE MAKES ITS FIRST EVER TRIP TO KAZAKHSTAN, TEAMS HAVE A CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE BIRD KIND WHEN THEY COME FACE-TO-FACE WITH OVER 30,000 CHICKENS, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 13," SUNDAY, NOV. 16 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK


*For the first time in the history of the Race, Teams travel to Kazakhstan where a Roadblock with over 30,000 chickens awaits
**Racers have a close encounter of the bird kind when 30,000 chickens cross their road to the pit stop.
***Watch as the Amazing Racers have to search through thousands of chickens for a golden egg

*& dress up like a cow in search of a milk stand.

*Teams encounter Mongol warriors and receive clues via Falcon Delivery.

*In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important.

*And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.
**  and one Team makes a risky move that could prove to be either a game changer or the end of the road


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0004.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0004.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0005.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0005.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0003.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0003.jpg) Clue tells the teams to go to Alel Agro chicken plant thanks Slowhatch

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0006.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0006.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0009.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0011.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0011.jpg) Hours of operation, teams bunched

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002511-10-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002511-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002711-10-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002711-10-2008.jpg) Race for the Fast Forward

Fast Forward  
**And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.
**  and one Team makes a risky move that could prove to be either a game changer or the end of the road
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002811-10-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002811-10-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_003311-10-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003311-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0034.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0034.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0035.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0035.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0044.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0044.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0045.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0045.jpg)Nick/Starr Terence/Sarah go for the  Fast Forward

Roadblock
 *For the first time in the history of the Race, Teams travel to Kazakhstan where a Roadblock with over 30,000 chickens awaits
**Racers have a close encounter of the bird kind when 30,000 chickens cross their road to the pit stop.
***Watch as the Amazing Racers have to search through thousands of chickens for a golden egg 

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0008.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0012.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0012.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0013.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0013.jpg) Tina

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0016.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0016.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0017.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0017.jpg) Toni

Detours
*& dress up like a cow in search of a milk stand.
Whos the angry cow?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0018.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0018.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0020.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0020.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0021.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0021.jpg) Ken and Tina

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0022.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0022.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0025.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0025.jpg) Toni and Dallas

Which is the other detour?

*Teams encounter Mongol warriors and receive clues via Falcon Delivery. 

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/th_00089-28-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/00089-28-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/th_00189-28-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/00189-28-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/th_00349-28-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/00349-28-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_000511-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/000511-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_000611-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/000611-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_000711-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/000711-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002311-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002311-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002411-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002411-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002511-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002511-13-2008.jpg)

cranes
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0026.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0026.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0027.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0027.jpg) Dallas and Toni

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_003411-10-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003411-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_003611-10-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003611-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0029.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0029.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0030.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0030.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0031.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0031.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_000911-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/000911-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_001511-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/001511-13-2008.jpg) Dandrew


PitStop

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0000.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0000.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0002.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0002.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_10Nov0037.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0037.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_11Nov0006.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/11Nov0006.jpg)


Misc~

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002011-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002011-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_002111-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002111-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_003611-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003611-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_003711-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003711-13-2008.jpg)


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_001011-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/001011-13-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/th_001711-13-2008.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/001711-13-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP 8: 11/16
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2008, 01:21:33 PM


From this photo in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17615.msg355818.html#msg355818) , Slowhatch says "Don't laugh but it looks like a minaret to me. I looked around Almaty but didn't see anything similar"

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep3/006710-12-2008.jpg)


Boingo (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17615.msg356170.html#msg356170) finds it!! :jumpy:
Egyptian Islamic Center (mosque) in Almaty

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17615.0;attach=110704;image)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17615.0;attach=110705;image)

Slowhatch adds the photo below as well as more details:

According to the map (http://expat.nursat.kz/?1530), the area behind Nur Mubarak/Nur Mosque (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2831548180101015314qTpTXC)/Egypt Cultural Centre is described as Al-Farabi Kazakh National University and "Botanic Garden (http://expat.nursat.kz/?532)." She looks a little sad in the confessional; maybe they're out, or maybe it was just a long day.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/TAR13AlmatyNurMosque.jpg)

Title: Re: EP 8: 11/16
Post by: puddin on November 01, 2008, 01:28:56 PM
Introflash's

#5 Nomads/warriors, Kazakhstan
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0070.jpg)
#10 Eagle, Kazakhstan maybe
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0081.jpg)
#24 boiled sheep head Kazakhstan
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0097.jpg)
#26 Nomads/warriors, Kazakhstan
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0100.jpg)
#29 Russian Orthodox Zenkov Church, Almaty, Kazakhstan 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0094.jpg)
#30 The State Museum of Popular Musical Instruments. Almaty, Kazakhstan
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0084.jpg)
#35 camel in front of the National Opera in Almaty   , Almaty, Kazakhstan
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0111.jpg)
#36 Orthodox Zenkov Cathedral in Panfilov Guardsmen Park, Almaty, Kazakhstan
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0103.jpg)
#37 The main statue of the war memorial in Panfilov Park, Almaty, Kazakhstan
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/intro/smaller/29Sep0104.jpg)

credits to Boingo, Slowhatch, peachs
Title: Re: EP 8: 11/16
Post by: Slowhatch on November 01, 2008, 07:00:04 PM
Boingo already found the dombira. The hat is a Kalpak (see here (http://www.discovery-central-asia.com/archive/2006/sum17.php) and here (http://www.kazakhstan-tourist.com/page.php?page_id=522&lang=2)), but it is worn throughout Central Asia not just KZ. I'm not sure about those small items in front.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: makz3d on November 02, 2008, 12:50:57 AM

Boiled sheep's head looks like a FF to me.

 :eww       :barf        :eww        :barf
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: topaz on November 02, 2008, 06:17:00 AM
it is and the title of this episode said it all!  I do believe the frat boys will take it, and besides they have good stomach than the rest of the  teams. :tup:

And finally, this episode will feature Kazakhstan w/c the infamous home country of Borat, and we'll gonna see it what really looks like as contrast to his movie. :meow:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Belle Book on November 02, 2008, 08:21:25 PM
it is and the title of this episode said it all!  I do believe the frat boys will take it, and besides they have good stomach than the rest of the  teams. :tup:

And finally, this episode will feature Kazakhstan w/c the infamous home country of Borat, and we'll gonna see it what really looks like as contrast to his movie. :meow:

If the frat boys get to Kazakhstan, they'll take it.  The question is -- will they get to Kazakhstan or will they be Philiminated in India?

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 03, 2008, 10:30:29 AM
I wonder if the title refers to someone's fear of getting mad cow disease from eating goat brains?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 03, 2008, 02:24:34 PM
I have a suspicion, nothing more, that the incident that sparks the title occurs in Delhi where cows are all over the place and not in Kazakhstan. Maybe it refers to blockages of traffic just taking a wild stab at it.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Neobie on November 09, 2008, 07:58:27 PM
Bunching at nondescript fenced compound (power pylons behind though), fast forward race between Terence/Sarah and Nick/Starr! (Sheep's head sounds just about right!)

*spoiler for those who haven't finished the last episode*
Andrew/Dan arguing in our Kazakh warrior's landscape...

555-333 is for Almaty Taxi.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 09, 2008, 08:02:46 PM
And T/S VS N/S, which we know if T/S took it, they might put N/S behind. But if N/S took it.. then they are going to win 4 legs in a row. TAR's first..
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: nathyn on November 09, 2008, 08:35:41 PM
Hi everybody. Been a long time lurker. I'm constantly in awe of the detective work on this site.

My .02 for the title. I think Dan or Andrew says about how stupid the he was being as they make up.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 09, 2008, 09:31:20 PM
:welcome2: to RFF nathyn! Glad you decided to delurk! :waves:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 09, 2008, 11:02:39 PM
From CBS (no video yet):
Quote
I'm Like An Angry Cow
Racers have a close encounter of the bird kind when 30,000 chickens cross their road to the pit stop. Teams encounter Mongol warriors and receive clues via Falcon Delivery. In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important. And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 11:07:53 PM
*In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important
Oh MY!!
*And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can’t stomach the meat from a sheep’s rear.
obvious Fast Foward! *FIXED!*
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 09, 2008, 11:10:41 PM
*In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important
Oh MY!!
*And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.
obvious Roadblock


puddin that sounds like the FF to me
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 09, 2008, 11:24:53 PM
Quote
only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.

 :lol:  Oh!  I've had this.  It's pretty shitty.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 09, 2008, 11:47:06 PM
I meant Fast Foward  :groan:  :lol:

And you ate that Chateau!? EWWWW
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 12:27:44 AM
I messed up so thanks to the lovely Dreamer for the preview  :-*

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 10, 2008, 07:02:13 AM
*In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important

Is this Dan/Andrew's "terrible Mistake"?? It seems too soon for the "prevents someone from joining their teammates at the finish line " mistake though...or is  it?

*And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.

What happened to the Sheep's Head??  :lol:

:eww You HAD to post that, Chateau? :funny:

I have to wonder about Sarah and Terence here. Sarah keeps kosher I believe, and aren't they vegetarian?  ???

yes-- from here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16722.msg332054.html#msg332054

Quote
Sarah keeps kosher and Terence is a vegetarian--maybe even vegan-ish--and, yes, a super healthy eater.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 10, 2008, 08:15:19 AM
For the million dollars, i think they'll eat anything. :snicker:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 10, 2008, 09:23:07 AM
I think that totally depends on how much time would be needed to get back onto the regular tasks. If it's less than 15 minutes, then maybe turn around and leave the FF. I'll bet it's more than that so they are effectively stuck if Terence/Sarah were the first to arrive at the FastForward.

I think Nick/Starr and Toni/Dallas would be foolish to take the risk of inter-team competition and then the risk of not being able to finish the Fast Forward. Of course this logic applies to Terence/Sarah too and they may not follow this logic in their desire for a first place leg finish.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: TARAsia Fan on November 10, 2008, 11:58:01 AM
Don't forget in TAR7 during the meat eating challenge, Rob knew he could not eat 70 lbs. of meat so he managed to convince two other teams to take the four hour penalty. Sometimes, it's worth taking the penalty if you can play the Jedi Mind Trick that Rob did.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 02:20:38 PM
press release:

WHEN THE RACE MAKES ITS FIRST EVER TRIP TO KAZAKHSTAN, TEAMS HAVE A CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE BIRD KIND WHEN THEY COME FACE-TO-FACE WITH OVER 30,000 CHICKENS, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 13," SUNDAY, NOV. 16 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
"I'm Like an Angry Cow" - For the first time in the history of the Race, Teams travel to Kazakhstan where a Roadblock with over 30,000 chickens awaits, and one Team makes a risky move that could prove to be either a game changer or the end of the road, on THE AMAZING RACE 13, Sunday, Nov. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network
 
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 10, 2008, 02:30:42 PM
So it must be a road block right before the pitstop then....I say that because of this:

Quote
Racers have a close encounter of the bird kind when 30,000 chickens cross their road to the pit stop.

I wonder if T/S get to the FF first and can't do it, and that is how they get eliminated. It will be sad if that's true because I think Andrew and Dan are awful racers and seriously need to be kicked out. Once they are gone any of the remaining teams would be great winners.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 02:48:11 PM
Preview is up! (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/video.php?cid=868013907&pid=0vU420khaa8JkQTH6jD_xPaKDawQYA4_&play=true&cc=32) I'll get some screencaps in a bit. OMG there is SO much good stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like Nick and Starr win the Fast Foward!?

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 10, 2008, 02:48:54 PM
 :'(
waaah i can't watch!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 03:08:36 PM
Another cool greeter!! Hours of operation and Congra Agra something chicken farm!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0000.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0001.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0002.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0003.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0004.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0005.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0006.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0007.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0009.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0010.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0011.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0012.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0013.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0014.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0015.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0016.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0017.jpg)


more..............
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 03:09:00 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0018.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0019.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0020.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0021.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0022.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0023.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0024.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0025.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0026.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0027.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0028.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0029.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0030.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0031.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0032.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0033.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 10, 2008, 03:10:19 PM
Preview is up! (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/video.php?cid=868013907&pid=0vU420khaa8JkQTH6jD_xPaKDawQYA4_&play=true&cc=32) I'll get some screencaps in a bit. OMG there is SO much good stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like Nick and Starr win the Fast Foward!?



Thanks puddin... got this description off the CBS TAR web site:   :funny:
Watch as the Amazing Racers have to search through thousands of chickens for a golden egg & dress up like a cow in search of a milk stand. Catch an all-new Amazing Race Sundays on CBS!

Now, tell me again how BVM is trying to give a more favorable impression of Kazakhstan (unlike the Borat movie).  :angel:  :groan:

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 03:11:08 PM
more

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0034.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0035.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0036.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0037.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0038.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0039.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0040.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0041.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0042.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0043.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0044.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0045.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 03:15:19 PM
Thanks Boingo! I'm trying to upload it for Michael but hes going to have to wait.
And I'm not sure who gets the FF? Between N/S and T/S, T/S look happy! And the boys are lost again for Gods Sakes!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 10, 2008, 03:16:10 PM
OMG, it makes sense for Nick/Starr to get the FF cause we know they make F3....maybe this is how T/S get eliminated...OR nick and starr can come in last and it can be a NEL.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 03:23:30 PM
Why are you so sure Terence and Sarah get eliminated? I think its too early to assume so Michael.

and then a clue that could really put a team behind if that team has to track back
*In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 10, 2008, 03:25:51 PM
Why are you so sure Terence and Sarah get eliminated? I think its too early to assume so Michael.

and then a clue that could really put a team behind if that team has to track back
*In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important

I have no idea puddin LOL now that I'm thinking about it for some reason I forgot that they are possibly F3!
they're starting to grow on me :hides
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 10, 2008, 03:27:42 PM
From the excellent screen caps in Post #33, it looks like Terrance and Sarah are having a "should we quit" conversation.  The huge risk might be them quitting the FF challenge.

I get the impression from Terrance and Sarah's confessional that they are safe.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 10, 2008, 03:28:39 PM
Quote
only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.

 :lol:  Oh!  I've had this.  It's pretty shitty.

That looks more like sheep stomach than sheep rear!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 10, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
It's Andouillette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andouillette)  Trust me.  It involves poop.

I ate 2/3 of it and only stopped because the people around me were complaining about the smell.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 10, 2008, 03:43:27 PM
Looks like crane is driving past Former Parliament Building (Almaty)   :tup:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 10, 2008, 03:51:00 PM
 :funny:  Cows are walking in the Silk Way shopping area of Almaty   :lol:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 03:56:13 PM
Chateau!  :jumpy:  ..don't Terence and Sarah look like they are before Dallas and Toni?

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0037.jpg)


so it now looks like Dallas and Toni make it to at least Leg 8 Almaty, Kazakhstan which should put them in the final 5.

From this photo in this thread (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17615.msg355818.html#msg355818) , Slowhatch says "Don't laugh but it looks like a minaret to me. I looked around Almaty but didn't see anything similar"

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/ep3/006710-12-2008.jpg)


Boingo (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17615.msg356170.html#msg356170) finds it!! :jumpy:
Egyptian Islamic Center (mosque) in Almaty

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17615.0;attach=110704;image)
(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17615.0;attach=110705;image)

Slowhatch adds the photo below as well as more details:

According to the map (http://expat.nursat.kz/?1530), the area behind Nur Mubarak/Nur Mosque (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2831548180101015314qTpTXC)/Egypt Cultural Centre is described as Al-Farabi Kazakh National University and "Botanic Garden (http://expat.nursat.kz/?532)."

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 04:00:54 PM
Dallas and Toni switch detours? unless the trucks whatever are a part of the detour?

And thanks for all that Boingo  :jumpy:  :yess:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0026.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0023.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 10, 2008, 04:09:36 PM
Also Terence & Sarah look pretty happy in that photo up there, not like a team that just got Philiminated...
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 10, 2008, 04:19:30 PM
 :tup: Restaurant Alasha in Almaty  :snicker:

eta: (interesting they eat Uzbek cuisine in Kazakhstan)  :groan:

UZBEK CUISINE

ALASHA RESTAURANT: One of the very authentic restaurants to go in the city. Uzbek dances, live music. Good atmosphere, excellent design.

Marat Ospanov street, 20. Close to Dostyk ave corner. +7(727) 2540700
 
 
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 10, 2008, 04:48:07 PM
Toni & Dallas look like they might be in the Green Bazar (Zeleny Bazar) which also next to the Great Mosque where the pit stop seems to be. This site has some good info on the sights with maps too.
http://infokz.com/city/eng/walk_greenbazar.php
Another way to continue your walk after the Park is to visit the Green Bazaar (Zeleny Bazaar). If you were brave enough to come to Almaty, you should not lose the chance to see Almaty痴 main bazaar, experience its eastern atmosphere, colors, smells and crowds. Of course, beware of thieves and watch your wallet.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 05:06:44 PM
It looks like a match to me Boingo! :yess:

incoming videos, the after show promo thanks to our friend VG of survivorphoenix :ty

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: AbbyNormal on November 10, 2008, 05:11:41 PM
*In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important
Oh MY!!
*And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can稚 stomach the meat from a sheep痴 rear.
obvious Fast Foward! *FIXED!*

Long time lurker and admirer, first time poster. This fits in with a suspicion I had earlier. That quote about one team not making it to the finish line never said that it was one of the final 3 teams. If the team finishing in 5th or 4th place lost their passports, it is very unlikely that they would have been able to get replacements soon enough to be able to re-enter the USA in time for the end of the race. It could be that we do have 3 teams racing together in the finale.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 05:16:35 PM
Welcome to the forum Abby :hithere:. I don't know I think its too early to assume that its credentials that are lost this episode, it could be cBS hype and much to do about nothing but we shall see?

Here's the EP8 preview (when ready) for Michael.

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: AbbyNormal on November 10, 2008, 05:24:39 PM
Thanks for the preview link. How funny is it that Starr seems to have a stronger stomach than Nick? And Terrence may be explaining why they chose to abandon the FF.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 05:39:21 PM
and the rest of the screencaps from the after show video

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002311-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002411-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002511-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002611-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002711-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002811-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002911-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003011-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003111-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003211-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003311-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003411-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003511-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003611-10-2008.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/003711-10-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 10, 2008, 06:33:15 PM
:tup: Restaurant Alasha in Almaty  :snicker:
 

Excellent find Boingo - here's the pic of those plates (and lots of others - including dishes but unfortunately no sheep head  :lol:)
http://www.alasha.kz/photo/big_picture.php?image=images/gallery/big/zal/main/003.jpg&lang=eng
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 10, 2008, 06:52:48 PM
This may not be conclusive, but the red clue here make it look like the crane task is a Roadblock.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0033.jpg)

Also, cranes are parked at the gate where the teams are waiting to get in.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002411-10-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 10, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
Can anyone read the name on the gate where everybody is rushing in (pix on on page 2)? Is that the gate to the chicken farm - it looks like the same building in the background.  There's at least 3 chicken farms in Almaty :
"ALMATY KUS" ...
"KOGER LTD" ...
"RUBI ROZ AGRIKOL"
Boy, I sure would don all the protection I could, there was an outbreak of avian flu in 2005 in Kazakhstan!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 07:11:56 PM
press release:

WHEN THE RACE MAKES ITS FIRST EVER TRIP TO KAZAKHSTAN, TEAMS HAVE A CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE BIRD KIND WHEN THEY COME FACE-TO-FACE WITH OVER 30,000 CHICKENS, ON "THE AMAZING RACE 13," SUNDAY, NOV. 16 ON THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK
"I'm Like an Angry Cow" - For the first time in the history of the Race, Teams travel to Kazakhstan where a Roadblock with over 30,000 chickens awaits, and one Team makes a risky move that could prove to be either a game changer or the end of the road, on THE AMAZING RACE 13, Sunday, Nov. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network
 

CBS tells us the Roadblock is the Golden egg *insert missing chicken emote here*

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0023.jpg)

Green Bazaar ...maybe
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 07:13:13 PM
Can anyone read the name on the gate where everybody is rushing in (pix on on page 2)? Is that the gate to the chicken farm - it looks like the same building in the background.  There's at least 3 chicken farms in Almaty :
"ALMATY KUS" ...
"KOGER LTD" ...
"RUBI ROZ AGRIKOL"
Boy, I sure would don all the protection I could, there was an outbreak of avian flu in 2005 in Kazakhstan!
As good as it gets
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 10, 2008, 07:19:10 PM
I think it's the first one you mentioned. I heard Tina say "alel agro chicken factory," which spots it here (http://infokz.com/base/eng/view.php?id=4927&p=1) (for some reason, I can't connect with the expat street map I had been using). The company website is here (http://www.almatykus.kz/) (no Eng version that I could find). Almaty Kus is the company, Alel is the brand.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 07:28:23 PM
The map isn't working for me either Slowhatch so its not you and lol! I could not understand Tina I heard Alma ata which is Almaty.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 07:35:12 PM
I think it's the first one you mentioned. I heard Tina say "alel agro chicken factory," which spots it here (http://infokz.com/base/eng/view.php?id=4927&p=1) (for some reason, I can't connect with the expat street map I had been using). The company website is here (http://www.almatykus.kz/) (no Eng version that I could find). Almaty Kus is the company, Alel is the brand.
but you already knew that  :lol:  :jam:

 SC Alel Agro
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 10, 2008, 07:42:30 PM
 :tup:  Good job slowhatch & puddin!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 07:47:54 PM
Wasn't me! I'm just following all your leads :)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 10, 2008, 08:04:35 PM
Here is my guess at where the Pit Stop is.  It's opposite the Old Government House that they drove the crane past. 

Panoramio link (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2534229)

Notice that the lamps are the same.

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 10, 2008, 08:05:11 PM
Okay, load limit!

Here's the location in GE
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 08:07:35 PM
Very nice Chateau! Can we see the Mosque from the Old Government House?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 10, 2008, 08:13:51 PM
Nope, I think the interviews are done at a different location, maybe where they spend the night.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 10, 2008, 08:30:51 PM
Nope, I think the interviews are done at a different location, maybe where they spend the night.
I can see that happening Chateau  :tup:

And maybe part of the Roadblock, like you mentioned, is taking the golden egg to point b to get your next clue to the Detour?

So maybe the Nomads and Falcon are window dressings, like the teams first task of the day?
Hit hours of operation
Roadblock/Golden Egg = we see Toni and Tina egging it
>> Cranes (maybe a part of the Roadblock?)= we see Toni and Dallas / Dandrew
Fast Forward/ sheep ass = Nick and Starr / Terence and Sarah
one Detour dress up like a cow in search of a milk stand
possible Detour, something to do with the cranes or something to do with the Nomads and Falcon





This may not be conclusive, but the red clue here make it look like the crane task is a Roadblock.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0033.jpg)

Also, cranes are parked at the gate where the teams are waiting to get in.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/002411-10-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Belle Book on November 10, 2008, 08:51:05 PM
I would not be able to do a Fast-Forward like that one!  Trust me!  I'm very finicky with my food -- always have been.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 10, 2008, 09:06:42 PM
 :lol:  Time for a re-cap.... just some places we know of in the Almaty leg.  :angel:

...still need to know location of chicken farm and restaurant.  ;)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Neobie on November 10, 2008, 09:17:04 PM
If it helps with the searches, the rough address of the chicken farm is:

Первомайская Промзона (1st of May Street?)
Илийский район (Iliiskii district)

It's bringing up other businesses in the vicinity, but no location yet... :'(
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 11, 2008, 12:33:08 AM
The front of the vehicle is no help: it's just a leasing company (http://leasing.kz/).
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: AbbyNormal on November 11, 2008, 01:43:31 AM
Toni and Dallas seem to be doing both detours. Could there be another Yield this episode?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 02:11:00 AM
^^ you mean a U-Turn? I guess anything is possible? but I think the cranes are related to the egg somehow who knows?

back to the farm *insert missing chicken emote here*

its so confusing  :knuckles:

Almaty Kus OJSC (http://www.astanafood.kz/en/2005/oview/934264642/) is a leader of the poultry industry in Central Asia. It presents its products under the Alel brand. The product range includes broiler chickens from 1 to 1.5 kg and more, wings, breasts, fillet, legs, as well as deep frozen meat with the shelf life of 8 to 14 months, at the temperature of -8 to -14 degrees. The product line includes 19 items. The new products are made at upgraded and equipped poultry factories. Guarantee of quality for the Almaty Kus OJSC products: the world's best Scottish breed, ROSS, bred according to the latest feeding recipes. An absolutely clean production, slaughtering and final product process, the most advanced packing and marking technology.



Almaty Kus OJSC (Almaty region, Iliiskii district, Chapayevo) or Chapayevo village or Imeni Chapayeva   :duno:


Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 11, 2008, 05:19:53 AM
I'm quite confused about which is the Roadblock. The website clue says the golden egg is. But Andrew and Dan seems to be holding on to a Roadblock clue on the truck.

And what are the two Detours?
The truck and the cow?

I think it is very possible that there could be a U-TURN, since i think it is very easy to find the egg. And the cow thingy might be idiot proof?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 11, 2008, 05:20:45 AM
Anyway, i don't like the idea whenever they gave them horribly lame tasks. What's with dressing up as a cow and finding something?... T_T
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 06:42:56 AM
Nope, I think the interviews are done at a different location, maybe where they spend the night.
I can see that happening Chateau  :tup:

And maybe part of the Roadblock, like you mentioned, is taking the golden egg to point b to get your next clue to the Detour?

So maybe the Nomads and Falcon are window dressings, like the teams first task of the day?
Hit hours of operation
Roadblock/Golden Egg = we see Toni and Tina egging it
>> Cranes (maybe a part of the Roadblock?)= we see Toni and Dallas / Dandrew
Fast Forward/ sheep ass = Nick and Starr / Terence and Sarah
one Detour dress up like a cow in search of a milk stand
possible Detour, something to do with the cranes or something to do with the Nomads and Falcon





This may not be conclusive, but the red clue here make it look like the crane task is a Roadblock.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0033.jpg)


Who is sitting to the right (left side of the picture) of the Frat boy with the Roadblock clue?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 11, 2008, 07:01:27 AM
You have to think that that gentleman with Andrew in the cab is a driver who responds to the directions that he is given. In other words, Dan/Andrew have to provide the navigation, probably to the remote site where the falcons are.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 07:53:25 AM
You have to think that that gentleman with Andrew in the cab is a driver who responds to the directions that he is given. In other words, Dan/Andrew have to provide the navigation, probably to the remote site where the falcons are.

apskip,

I did see the driver in the picture  :tup:.  But I am curious who is wearing the light blue coat in the bottom left of the picture. 

My thinking is that if both Dan and Andrew are in the crane, it is not a Roadblock, but rather a different task.  And that the cranes would be after the Roadblock.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 11, 2008, 09:19:51 AM
gator 27,

My guess is that it is Dan or the soundman. The angle the picture is taken makes it almost impossible for the cameraman to be sitting in that position indicated by the blue coat.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: mswood on November 11, 2008, 09:49:40 AM
Is this episode the last one we have confirmation of Toni & Dallas in it, because I am going to cry.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 11, 2008, 10:19:36 AM
mswood, you can cry if you wish. However, the only team that appears certain to be in the final 3 is Nick/Starr. That currently leaves 4 teams fighting for the other 2 spots. After Sunday the odds will be 3 teams fighting for 2 spots(unless it is NEL which I don't expect). The reason for the lack of information is presumably related to having few blogs from people in or visiting Moscow from around May 10 to 13.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: makz3d on November 11, 2008, 10:22:10 AM
gator 27,

My guess is that it is Dan or the soundman. The angle the picture is taken makes it almost impossible for the cameraman to be sitting in that position indicated by the blue coat.


It's Dan.  In the 1 min. internet preview, at 37 secs, Dan and Andrew are shown.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: makz3d on November 11, 2008, 10:31:50 AM
Thanks for the preview link. How funny is it that Starr seems to have a stronger stomach than Nick? And Terrence may be explaining why they chose to abandon the FF.

My thought is that Starr has a weaker stomach.  It seems to me that Starr is not eating and is coaching Nick.

Maybe Starr didn't want to do FF and Nick said he would eat it all so they could win FF.

Both of their plates look empty and clean.  Maybe those are just base plates for the dish the food is served in.  It also could be at the end of eating and Starr is okay but Nick is about to loose it and Starr is telling him it's okay.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 10:52:08 AM
Yes its Dan whos flapping his hands around as usual :nut:  :lol:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 10:53:05 AM
plates
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 10:58:42 AM
Is this episode the last one we have confirmation of Toni & Dallas in it, because I am going to cry.
Only Nick and Starr & Ken and Tina are safe this episode per Moscow which should be leg 10, Moscows second leg. Sorry mswood.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 11, 2008, 01:57:06 PM
I'm quoting this from another site lol,

Quote
    The host of TAR was on Extra and said one couple lost some valuables and important documentation and therefore was not able to continue. He also went on to say that they made sure the couple got home, that they have never stranded anyone anywhere in the 13 seasons of the Race

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/15/15348.page

    I will have to favor the loss of their passports. They are kept in that special fanny pac with all the other documents they have to keep safe, like route markers and detour/roadblock clues. If they lost that bag, then at a minimum it would be 48 hours to get a new passport re-issued so they could continue on. By then the production company crews would be so far down the race, that the route markers/detours/roadblocks would have been finished. It sounds to me like it took so long to resolve, that they couldnt even get to the finish line to join in the finish.

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/30/15348.page

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 02:12:10 PM
Thanks for the preview link. How funny is it that Starr seems to have a stronger stomach than Nick? And Terrence may be explaining why they chose to abandon the FF.

My thought is that Starr has a weaker stomach.  It seems to me that Starr is not eating and is coaching Nick.

Maybe Starr didn't want to do FF and Nick said he would eat it all so they could win FF.

Both of their plates look empty and clean.  Maybe those are just base plates for the dish the food is served in.  It also could be at the end of eating and Starr is okay but Nick is about to loose it and Starr is telling him it's okay.

I think Starr finishes before Nick and then starts coaching him.  You can see in pictures of T & Sarah that they each have a plate of "food".  So for the FF each team member must clean their plate. :iok
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 02:13:41 PM
Yes its Dan whos flapping his hands around as usual :nut:  :lol:

Thanks team.  And you even showed me that Dan has a non-Roadblock clue.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 02:19:34 PM
I'm quoting this from another site lol,

Quote
    The host of TAR was on Extra and said one couple lost some valuables and important documentation and therefore was not able to continue. He also went on to say that they made sure the couple got home, that they have never stranded anyone anywhere in the 13 seasons of the Race

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/15/15348.page

    I will have to favor the loss of their passports. They are kept in that special fanny pac with all the other documents they have to keep safe, like route markers and detour/roadblock clues. If they lost that bag, then at a minimum it would be 48 hours to get a new passport re-issued so they could continue on. By then the production company crews would be so far down the race, that the route markers/detours/roadblocks would have been finished. It sounds to me like it took so long to resolve, that they couldnt even get to the finish line to join in the finish.

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/30/15348.page



Posting error.  see below
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 03:11:41 PM
Maybe if we ask Chateau real nice he can give us a time estimate, which team might be ahead  :jam:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/10Nov0037.jpg)
(http://i33.[banned image hosting site].com/bgsk80.jpg)(http://i38.[banned image hosting site].com/2ufr0jl.jpg)
The confessional is here about the 8:30 mark

Dallas: when I ask my mom to step it up, she does, shes able to push herself, there's times where she needs a break and uh, and I wouldn't expect her to go all out all the time

 
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 11, 2008, 03:16:02 PM
I will give that a shot.

Anybody know what these are?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: 2old4tech on November 11, 2008, 03:35:05 PM
Airplanes.  Bombers.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: 2old4tech on November 11, 2008, 03:38:49 PM
TU-160 "Blackjack" bombers

see here http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-160.htm (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-160.htm)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 11, 2008, 03:44:53 PM
 :lol:  looks like a Soviet SU-24 swing wing aircraft.... or MIG-23/27   :duno:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: 2old4tech on November 11, 2008, 04:00:43 PM
On second thought, I'll go with you Boingo on the MiG

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-23.htm (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-23.htm)

They are deployed in Kazakstan.  No TU-160's there.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 05:12:38 PM
I'm quoting this from another site lol,

Quote
    The host of TAR was on Extra and said one couple lost some valuables and important documentation and therefore was not able to continue. He also went on to say that they made sure the couple got home, that they have never stranded anyone anywhere in the 13 seasons of the Race

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/15/15348.page

    I will have to favor the loss of their passports. They are kept in that special fanny pac with all the other documents they have to keep safe, like route markers and detour/roadblock clues. If they lost that bag, then at a minimum it would be 48 hours to get a new passport re-issued so they could continue on. By then the production company crews would be so far down the race, that the route markers/detours/roadblocks would have been finished. It sounds to me like it took so long to resolve, that they couldnt even get to the finish line to join in the finish.

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/30/15348.page



Hmmm.  What if the team that lost what we are presuming to be passports are not the last team to the PitStop?  Are you Philiminated if you do not bring all your race clues?

How about this:  Team Lose your Passport arrives 4th.  Team in 5th Philiminated.  At teh start of the next leg, Team Lose your Passport cannot get out of K-stan, thus are Philiminated.

Or this:  Team Lose your Passport arrives 4th.  Team in 5th arrives, but Phil tells them he has good and bad news.  The bad news is that you are last.  The good news, one team was dumb enough to lose their passports and are stuck in K-stan for a few days, so you get to continue on the race!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Belle Book on November 11, 2008, 05:37:19 PM
I'm quoting this from another site lol,

Quote
    The host of TAR was on Extra and said one couple lost some valuables and important documentation and therefore was not able to continue. He also went on to say that they made sure the couple got home, that they have never stranded anyone anywhere in the 13 seasons of the Race

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/15/15348.page

    I will have to favor the loss of their passports. They are kept in that special fanny pac with all the other documents they have to keep safe, like route markers and detour/roadblock clues. If they lost that bag, then at a minimum it would be 48 hours to get a new passport re-issued so they could continue on. By then the production company crews would be so far down the race, that the route markers/detours/roadblocks would have been finished. It sounds to me like it took so long to resolve, that they couldnt even get to the finish line to join in the finish.

http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/30/15348.page



Hmmm.  What if the team that lost what we are presuming to be passports are not the last team to the PitStop?  Are you Philiminated if you do not bring all your race clues?

How about this:  Team Lose your Passport arrives 4th.  Team in 5th Philiminated.  At teh start of the next leg, Team Lose your Passport cannot get out of K-stan, thus are Philiminated.

Or this:  Team Lose your Passport arrives 4th.  Team in 5th arrives, but Phil tells them he has good and bad news.  The bad news is that you are last.  The good news, one team was dumb enough to lose their passports and are stuck in K-stan for a few days, so you get to continue on the race!

My guess is that the team who loses the Passport arrives before at least one other team, and when the last team arrives Phil tells them that they are the last team to arrive -- however, one team was dumb enough to lose their passports and were stuck in Kazakhstan for a few days, so the team who lost their passports are Philiminated instead!  And I'll be dying of laughter!   :funny:

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 11, 2008, 05:37:55 PM
48 hours to issue a passport. I think from Kazakstan to 2 legs in Moscow. It fits perfectly?

Imagine if a team lost their passports and got eliminated on Leg 8 because of it..

And TAR fly to Moscow, completed a leg. Another 12 hours pitstop.
And completed another leg and another 12 hours pitstop.

That's even less than 2 days in total. (Teams won't need a total of 24 hours to complete the 2 legs worth of tasks?)

And if they are flying back to USA. I think the left behind team in Kazakstan, after finally getting their passports after 2 days.. will be on a race to find a flight back to USA when the final 3 teams are also flying back to USA as well? I think they might just miss joining the final 3 at the finishing line.

Anyone can check for the number of flights leaving Kazakstan to USA per day and how long does it take? I don't really know how to do flight checking..

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 11, 2008, 05:41:35 PM
Although it's sad to be eliminated like that..

But the best scenario for me now would be -

Phil: Andrew and Dan, you're team number #1!
Andrew: We beat the Fast Forward!
Dan: Dang! We're good racers!
Andrew: I told you we rock and we are faster than everyone else! I told you!!
Phil: :res: However, the both of you lost your passports. Thus you won't be able to continue on with the race and i'm sorry that both of you are the first team to arrive, first team to lose passports on the race and first team to be eliminated by such a dumb mistake. Bye bye. :waves:

 :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 11, 2008, 06:25:39 PM
I'm quoting this from another site lol,

Quote
    The host of TAR was on Extra and said one couple lost some valuables and important documentation and therefore was not able to continue. He also went on to say that they made sure the couple got home, that they have never stranded anyone anywhere in the 13 seasons of the Race http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/list/30/15348.page



ANOTHER site? You didn't need to go to another site - I posted this way back in Sep - lol
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15354.msg353890.html#msg353890
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 11, 2008, 06:33:20 PM
OK, so here's a completely hypothetical (yet strangely plausible) scenario:
Nick & Starr and Terence & Sarah go for the FF.  N&S finish first (appears that way from the photos too) and take off. T&S realizing they've lost and have to go back and do the detour, take off in a huge hurry and leave their fanny pack under ther table - they're probably sick and nauseous at this stage anyways.  They do the detour, finishing (unsurprisingly) ahead of the hapless loserboys.  Phil tells them, "You're 4th team to arrive. Congratulations you're still in the race!".  And they hug and kiss and cheer and then take off their backpacks to kick back and relax- and find their fanny pack is gone!

Meanwhile the loserboys arrive and Phil tells them " You're in last place. But the good news is your incredible luck has triumphed over your (vast) ineptitude yet again, and I reluctantly have to tell you you're still in the race". 

And then Philiminates T&S.  :'(
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 06:35:47 PM

ANOTHER site? You didn't need to go to another site - I posted this way back in Sep - lol
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15354.msg353890.html#msg353890
Thats why Michael was crowned the King of the Village Idiots ;)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 06:47:11 PM
OK, so here's a completely hypothetical (yet strangely plausible) scenario:
Nick & Starr and Terence & Sarah go for the FF.  N&S finish first (appears that way from the photos too) and take off. T&S realizing they've lost and have to go back and do the detour, take off in a huge hurry and leave their fanny pack under ther table - they're probably sick and nauseous at this stage anyways.  They do the detour, finishing (unsurprisingly) ahead of the hapless loserboys.  Phil tells them, "You're 4th team to arrive. Congratulations you're still in the race!".  And they hug and kiss and cheer and then take off their backpacks to kick back and relax- and find their fanny pack is gone!

Meanwhile the loserboys arrive and Phil tells them " You're in last place. But the good news is your incredible luck has triumphed over your ineptitute yet again, and I reluctantly have to tell you you're still in the race". 

And then Philiminates T&S.  :'(


Interesting.  We are all focused on DAndrew being the ones who lose their passports (BVM interview).  Maybe it is actually another team. :duno:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 11, 2008, 06:58:46 PM
OK, so here's a completely hypothetical (yet strangely plausible) scenario:
Nick & Starr and Terence & Sarah go for the FF.  N&S finish first (appears that way from the photos too) and take off. T&S realizing they've lost and have to go back and do the detour, take off in a huge hurry and leave their fanny pack under ther table - they're probably sick and nauseous at this stage anyways.  They do the detour, finishing (unsurprisingly) ahead of the hapless loserboys.  Phil tells them, "You're 4th team to arrive. Congratulations you're still in the race!".  And they hug and kiss and cheer and then take off their backpacks to kick back and relax- and find their fanny pack is gone!

Meanwhile the loserboys arrive and Phil tells them " You're in last place. But the good news is your incredible luck has triumphed over your ineptitute yet again, and I reluctantly have to tell you you're still in the race".  And then Philiminates T&S.  :'(


Interesting.  We are all focus on DAndrew being the ones who lose their passports (BVM interview).  Maybe it is actually another team. :duno:

I'm just going by the fact that Dandrew are actually seen in Portland, whereas T&S aren't seen again (yes, there's a brown haired pair that IS seen, but that could be Toni & Dallas?)

*EDIT* Although I went back & read the description and it DOES sound more like T&S :
"i don't recognize the teams i saw from any of those pics- the couple (i am assuming that by the way- could be bro/ sis) she had dark hair, he had dark blond hair.  very fit and looked like the had just climbed a mtn."

But I still like my scenario - maybe Belle Book could use it in a future episode  :lol:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: asamber1 on November 11, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
Do we know people loose a passport in this leg or the next.  Because that sounds more like the blunder that costs a team from finishing the final leg.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 07:12:39 PM
Do we know people loose a passport in this leg or the next.  Because that sounds more like the blunder that costs a team from finishing the final leg.
Everyone is assuming from this clue "in a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important" that it is this leg. For all we know its the golden egg or something.
The unprecedented mistake thread is here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16823.0.html) if you all want to make a guess whatever there.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 11, 2008, 07:15:52 PM
Do we know people loose a passport in this leg or the next.  Because that sounds more like the blunder that costs a team from finishing the final leg.
Everyone is assuming from this clue "in a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important" that it is this leg. For all we know its the golden egg or something.
The unprecedented mistake thread is here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16823.0.html) if you all want to make a guess whatever there.

The Queen has spoken!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gingerman28 on November 11, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
Do we know people loose a passport in this leg or the next.  Because that sounds more like the blunder that costs a team from finishing the final leg.
Everyone is assuming from this clue "in a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important" that it is this leg. For all we know its the golden egg or something.
The unprecedented mistake thread is here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16823.0.html) if you all want to make a guess whatever there.

The Queen has spoken!

If the teams lose their passports here in Almaty, they still would have time to get a replacement from the Embassy (in emergencies it only takes a few hours to get a replacement) and then the teams would be able to still reach the finish line in Portland, OR.  But the advance info is that because they lose the passports they can't join the rest of the teams at the finish line.  So I assume they must lose them on the penultimate leg in Moscow.  Perhaps they are part of the final three, and realize they have lost their passports when they try to leave Moscow in the race of the final three to the finish line.  No way hoozay will the Reds let someone leave the country without their passports and entry visas.

The King has spoken!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 11, 2008, 08:01:56 PM
Do we know people loose a passport in this leg or the next.  Because that sounds more like the blunder that costs a team from finishing the final leg.
Everyone is assuming from this clue "in a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important" that it is this leg. For all we know its the golden egg or something.
The unprecedented mistake thread is here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16823.0.html) if you all want to make a guess whatever there.

The Queen has spoken!

If the teams lose their passports here in Almaty, they still would have time to get a replacement from the Embassy (in emergencies it only takes a few hours to get a replacement) and then the teams would be able to still reach the finish line in Portland, OR.  But the advance info is that because they lose the passports they can't join the rest of the teams at the finish line.  So I assume they must lose them on the penultimate leg in Moscow.  Perhaps they are part of the final three, and realize they have lost their passports when they try to leave Moscow in the race of the final three to the finish line.  No way hoozay will the Reds let someone leave the country without their passports and entry visas.

The King has spoken!
Took you long enough!! Finally the wise man speaks!! :jumpy: :crown :bow:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 11, 2008, 08:13:32 PM
Quote
Anybody know what these are?
During this fellow's trip (http://www.mig-21.de/english/newsarchive/zhetygen2005.htm) to Zhetygen, he noticed Mig-29s and Su-24s; since I can only see one fin, I'll go with Su-24 Fencer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-24). (thanks, btw. During my searching, I came across a new word--Roundel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundel)--and a new database (http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/en/accueil.html)  :js:)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 11, 2008, 09:05:59 PM
Cool, Slowhatch.  I think you got it (I see same tail to wing relation with Su-24)  Here is your monument

(http://www.mig-21.de/bilder/denkmal_1.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 11, 2008, 09:11:59 PM
Roundels  :lol:

Guess who's air force this is:

(http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/cocardes/mini/nouvelle_zelande.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: asamber1 on November 11, 2008, 09:58:33 PM
Do we know people loose a passport in this leg or the next.  Because that sounds more like the blunder that costs a team from finishing the final leg.
Everyone is assuming from this clue "in a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important" that it is this leg. For all we know its the golden egg or something.
The unprecedented mistake thread is here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16823.0.html) if you all want to make a guess whatever there.

Ah thanks.

I was thinking that shot of Dandrew fighting on the grass is them lost looking for something.  What is an episode this season without Dandrew racing trying to avoid elimination.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 11, 2008, 11:06:36 PM
Roundels  :lol:

Guess who's air force this is:

(http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/cocardes/mini/nouvelle_zelande.jpg)

Ooooh! That's a tough one....british colours and a small flightless bird....hmmm...let me guess...Mongolia....no.....Egypt.....no.....hmmm...have to give up...hang on, maybe it's Iceland. Yeah, I'll put all my money on Iceland thanks. :hides

.....do I win a prize? :nopoints
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: makz3d on November 12, 2008, 12:10:21 AM
For the D/T and T/S confessionals it's possible:

Terrence is using the fact that he's a vegan/vegetarian as an reason why they didn't finish the FF fast enough.  And maybe got eliminated.

Dallas may be doing the same thing in that he was praising his mom and then added that he doesn't expect her to go all out all of the time.  Possibly Toni took too long to find the golden egg which resulted in them being eliminated.

I feel that it's totally up in the air as to who is eliminated this week.  It seems the only for sure to not be eliminated is N/S and probably K/T.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2008, 12:33:04 AM
For the D/T and T/S confessionals it's possible:

Terrence is using the fact that he's a vegan/vegetarian as an reason why they didn't finish the FF fast enough.  And maybe got eliminated.

Dallas may be doing the same thing in that he was praising his mom and then added that he doesn't expect her to go all out all of the time.  Possibly Toni took too long to find the golden egg which resulted in them being eliminated.

I feel that it's totally up in the air as to who is eliminated this week.  It seems the only for sure to not be eliminated is N/S and probably K/T.

I guess they can always throw in another NEL? Mix it up you know?
Again.. last season the first FF came in leg 5 and went unused
The second FF came at leg 7, Don and Nicks tattoos and it was a NEL.
The second NEL came in leg 9 ....

What I'm saying is maybe we can expect the unexpected?

Season 13
First FF leg 5
NEL leg 6
Second FF leg 8
Second NEL? << I'm expecting it to be the next leg but isn't that obvious? predictable?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 12, 2008, 12:40:49 AM
I think it will go like this:

This leg = FF, Elimination. Final Four.
Russia leg 1 = NEL
Russia leg 2 = Elimination. Final three. (already, wow it went fast)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2008, 12:51:20 AM
I think it will go like this:

This leg = FF, Elimination. Final Four.
Russia leg 1 = NEL
Russia leg 2 = Elimination. Final three. (already, wow it went fast)
"expect the unexpected" << OMG I am so cursed by BB  (:;)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 12, 2008, 01:35:16 AM
I think it will go like this:

This leg = FF, Elimination. Final Four.
Russia leg 1 = NEL
Russia leg 2 = Elimination. Final three. (already, wow it went fast)
"expect the unexpected" << OMG I am so cursed by BB  (:;)

BUT FIRST!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2008, 01:47:13 AM
What has become of this thread?  :funny: :groan:

migs, air force, Julie Chen *sigh*, and that's just this page! (actually 2 pages its worse than I thought)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 12, 2008, 06:31:42 AM
Roundels  :lol:

Guess who's air force this is:

(http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/cocardes/mini/nouvelle_zelande.jpg)

Too easy, as that is a kiwi. It is the symbol of the New Zealand Air Force. I'm pretty certain Mrs. Shrek knows that and was playing around by suggesting Iceland(where there definitely no kiwis).
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Neobie on November 12, 2008, 06:33:44 AM
Apskip, please! Of course it's Mauritius, home of the dodo! Compare... :lol:

(Geez, still wondering why they chose a bird that, well, can't fly.)

Erm, topic?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 12, 2008, 11:43:03 AM
:tup: Restaurant Alasha in Almaty  :snicker:

eta: (interesting they eat Uzbek cuisine in Kazakhstan)  :groan:

UZBEK CUISINE

ALASHA RESTAURANT: One of the very authentic restaurants to go in the city. Uzbek dances, live music. Good atmosphere, excellent design.

Marat Ospanov street, 20. Close to Dostyk ave corner. +7(727) 2540700
 
 


plates

Looking at some of the food on the plate it looks like this sounds:

"Traditionally Kazakh cuisine offers many meat dishes. One of the most popular dishes is kuirdak - hot fatty dish made from roasted sheep's liver, kidney, heart, lungs and fat."

My source - http://www.sairamtour.com/centralasia/ca_05_2.html

My question to you map experts, how far out of the way is the FF challenge?  Would Terrence and Sarah lose much time traveling to and from FF to the next task?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: sunnyca on November 12, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
Well, I don't think I'm a "map expert" but I don't think it's that far. According to the map on the Alasha site, (http://www.alasha.kz/images/contact4eng.gif)http://www.alasha.kz/index.php?opt=contact 
it's at the corner of Ospanov and Dostyk, right before where Dostyk crosses the river.

On this map (mostly in Russian http://infokz.com/city/eng/empall.htm) you can see Dostyk Av (in Russian looks like AOcTblk!) crossing the river at the top right side, with a street leading off it, which might be Ospanov (not marked).  Downtown is to the left with the Cathedral, Green Bazar  and park at the left end of Dostyk.
The downtown only map in English is here -  Almaty downtown http://infokz.com/city/eng/empcen.htm
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 12, 2008, 01:37:35 PM
Apskip, please! Of course it's Mauritius, home of the dodo! Compare... :lol:

(Geez, still wondering why they chose a bird that, well, can't fly.)

Erm, topic?

OMG Neobie. That's too funny.  :funny: As for the reason why they chose a flightless bird...that is pretty obvious....the RNZAF hardly fly themselves, so having an emblem which flies even less makes them feel better :tup:

And sorry puddin for continuing the off topic trend of this thread :notme:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 12, 2008, 02:57:19 PM
Do we have any flight info from Delhi to Almaty? :plane:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 12, 2008, 04:11:32 PM

Why are we looking at GE's of planes please? ???

 :didimiss:

Can someone point me to the source?

call me confused in the islands
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 12, 2008, 04:20:58 PM
Do we have any flight info from Delhi to Almaty? :plane:

gator27, are you not familiar with Timetables and Flight Information thread? Take a look and you will get your answer from my most recent special post on that subject.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2008, 04:58:53 PM

Why are we looking at GE's of planes please? ???

 :didimiss:

Can someone point me to the source?

call me confused in the islands
Chateau started it, I guess he wants to give lessons in GE? or something? :word:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 12, 2008, 05:22:34 PM
okay, I am WAY behind but no relevance to this leg, then?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2008, 05:29:43 PM
okay, I am WAY behind but no relevance to this leg, then?
  You'll have to ask Chateau, I have no idea :lol:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 12, 2008, 05:40:10 PM
was there a monument or something they were looking for? :duno:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 12, 2008, 05:57:42 PM
Nope.  That was all just for the gee wiz factor.

I was looking for chickens and I got Migs   :funny:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 12, 2008, 06:13:27 PM
I was looking for chickens and I got Migs   :funny:

Easy enough to do...It could happen to anyone. I mean look at all the similarities:
1. They both have wings
2. They both have wings
3. you get the idea.....

 :neener:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 12, 2008, 07:01:28 PM
Quote
I was looking for chickens and I got Migs   
Maybe I can help (a little) with both. This page (http://infokz.com/base/eng/view.php?id=4927&p=0) describes the Alel location as
Quote
Almaty region, Iliiskii district, Pervomaiskaya Promzona, Almaty ptitsefabrika
. I found this company (http://www.burundaiavia.kz/?lan=en&id=93) that claims an airport in the same district. The wikimap is here (http://www.wikimapia.org/1912149/Burundai-Airport). There's an industrial area north of the airport that has possibilites; if someone could find Pervomaiskaya village that would help in finding the battery farm ("ptitsefabrika").

Nvm, it's here (http://travelingluck.com/Asia/Kazakhstan/Almaty/_1520208_Pervomayskiy.html#local_map). Now to look for chickens...
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 12, 2008, 07:15:36 PM
If it helps with the searches, the rough address of the chicken farm is:

Первомайская Промзона (1st of May Street?)
Илийский район (Iliiskii district)

It's bringing up other businesses in the vicinity, but no location yet... :'(
Quote
I was looking for chickens and I got Migs   
Maybe I can help (a little) with both. This page (http://infokz.com/base/eng/view.php?id=4927&p=0) describes the Alel location as
Quote
Almaty region, Iliiskii district, Pervomaiskaya Promzona, Almaty ptitsefabrika
. I found this company (http://www.burundaiavia.kz/?lan=en&id=93) that claims an airport in the same district. The wikimap is here (http://www.wikimapia.org/1912149/Burundai-Airport). There's an industrial area north of the airport that has possibilites; if someone could find Pervomaiskaya village that would help in finding the battery farm ("ptitsefabrika").

Nvm, it's here (http://travelingluck.com/Asia/Kazakhstan/Almaty/_1520208_Pervomayskiy.html#local_map). Now to look for chickens...

I see a 1st May ponds Slowhatch!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Belle Book on November 12, 2008, 08:19:19 PM
Although it's sad to be eliminated like that..

But the best scenario for me now would be -

Phil: Andrew and Dan, you're team number #1!
Andrew: We beat the Fast Forward!
Dan: Dang! We're good racers!
Andrew: I told you we rock and we are faster than everyone else! I told you!!
Phil: :res: However, the both of you lost your passports. Thus you won't be able to continue on with the race and i'm sorry that both of you are the first team to arrive, first team to lose passports on the race and first team to be eliminated by such a dumb mistake. Bye bye. :waves:

 :jumpy:

That would be so hilarious!   :funny:  Though probably not for Andrew & Dan, of course.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 08:24:45 PM
incoming........


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more .........
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 08:29:02 PM
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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 08:31:10 PM
video
I guess its suppose to look like an old reel but its funny
Terence tells his driver "take us back"

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 13, 2008, 08:49:38 PM
 :yess:  The company name on the crane is TORGOVYI DOM   :angel:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2008, 08:51:08 PM
Thanks puddin! Lol  Oh poor Terence...
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 08:52:32 PM
So is this Starr? Color me stupid  :jam:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/001611-13-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2008, 09:03:34 PM
I thought that was one of the give a direction ladies! :lol3:


Is this one of ours? :funny:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 09:05:38 PM
I thought that was one of the give a direction ladies! :lol3:


Is this one of ours? :funny:

One of our what?  :funny:

another :barf

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/Survivor16/002311-13-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 13, 2008, 09:07:59 PM
LOL peach, one of our what?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 13, 2008, 09:09:14 PM
 :yess:  Here's a clip from a Bangkok tourist blurb (http://www.bangkokpost.com/210808_Horizons/21Aug2008_hori001.php) about travel to Kazakstan...

Quote
Almaty in Kazakhstan's south is its largest city which was its capital from 1929-98 when it was moved north to Astana. Almaty shares a border with China which is around four to five hours drive from downtown. Around 100kms before you reach the border, or 193 kilometres east of the town, there is a popular tourist stop: the Charyn Canyon.


It is 80kms long through which runs the Charyn River. The height of the canyon is 150-300 metres. Locals go there for picnic. They lay down mats along the edge and enjoy meals, the windy atmosphere and strong sunshine because there is no shade from trees.


Kazakhs relish horse meat. They cook it the same way as beef and it is also sold in supermarkets in the form of sausage or salami, cured meat or ready-to-eat sandwiches and pastries. Horses raised as a source of meat are tended differently from those reared for riding.


To the south of Almaty is another popular picnic spot, Turgen Gorge in Ili-Alatau National Park, 90kms from downtown. The place is famous for its waterfalls, hot springs and a rainbow trout farm.


"I can guarantee you that any one coming here can catch a trout," said Alexander Yexhov, our tour guide.


The trick is, he said, that the farm lets the fish go hungry so that no matter what you drop in the stream , they will go for the bait and swallow. Many people with baits in hand could be seen lining a small cold stream waiting for their moment. After a short while I spotted a seven-year old boy trap his first trout of the day, it was that easy, and he screamed in excitement. The farm also has a restaurants selling deep fried trout. Other activities available to visitors are horse riding or touring the area in a horse-drawn carriage.


Kazakhstan is also well-known for its falcons. "People from the Middle East, especially the United Arab Emirates, come here to buy birds of prey. There was a flourishing black market for the birds until the government decreed a law to protect them," said our guide, adding that now owners of hawks and falcons are required to obtain a licence from the government.


A privately-run falcon farm was established in 1989 to breed and train the birds and later opened to tourists. "Around 600 falcons or 70 percent of the birds raised at the farm have been allowed to go free," he explained.


On view are many types of falcons segregated in cages depending on species. The golden eagle, the country's national symbol, is a major attraction. One of them, we saw, had brown feathers and proud penetrating eyes. Our guide said it was trained specially to hunt in tandem with a Russian dog whom he named as Tazi.


Beside nature, there are several places in Almaty where you can enjoy a walk. You can start at Panfilov Park and visit the Ascension Church, also called Zenkov Cathedral. Built in 1904, the church is made entirely of wood without a single nail in its structure. Behind the church is Glory Memorial Park with its eternal flame. It was built to honour those who sacrificed their lives during WWII. In the park area is a museum featuring musical instruments sourced from every part of the country.


From the park you can walk to Green Bazaar, the city's main open-air market where you can buy local handicraft, dry fruits, nuts, chocolate and fresh meats, including horse meat.


But you are not allowed to take pictures. Security officers roam the market to make sure the ban is enforced. I even spotted some of them tailing our group after they saw us carrying cameras and video recorders, and I couldn't help wondering that it was 17 years ago the country broke free from Russia, but that siege mentality still persists.


Since Kazakhstan only recently opened its doors to tourism, travel packages there are a tad pricey. But it seems destined to become a major tourist destination in due course, given the lifestyle of its people and beautiful nature that are bound to leave lasting impressions on travellers to this Central Asian nation.

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 13, 2008, 09:11:30 PM
direction ladies. peach meant that she is giving directions out to the driver of the truck. We see andrew and dan in the same truck!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 13, 2008, 09:11:54 PM
I think Nick and Starr are going to become the first team to ever get 4 firsts in a row.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2008, 09:24:37 PM
LOL peach, one of our what?

I was trying to make it into one of our racers, you nuts, :lol:  For some reason I keep seeing Charla in the armor doing the face plant :lol3:

And thank you kiwi... :kuss:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 13, 2008, 09:28:05 PM
 :lol:
oh my bad!

I wish Borat was the greeter this week LOL
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 09:29:22 PM
LOL peach, one of our what?

I was trying to make it into one of our racers, you nuts, :lol:  For some reason I keep seeing Charla in the armor doing the face plant :lol3:

And thank you kiwi... :kuss:

I don't think we have any Mongolian racers this season peach, lmao
And I guess the girl in the babushka is a direction girl but my God her profile looks like Starrs!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 13, 2008, 09:30:01 PM
I thought it was Starr to puddin, because I thought she had a Pink Bandanna  :lol:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 09:33:25 PM
I thought it was Starr to puddin, because I thought she had a Pink Bandanna  :lol:
That why we are idiots  :jumpy:  :yess: :hfive: :touche:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2008, 09:35:43 PM
We need this too, don't we?

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2013/5_23DombraHallofFame.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 13, 2008, 09:35:52 PM
 :neener:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 09:39:37 PM
We need this too, don't we?


  I bet we don't even see it peach, its fluff like the marionettes
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 13, 2008, 09:52:15 PM
Was that in the opening credits?

5000 POSTS! woo hoo :wohoo:
5,000 posts full of meaningful contribution(:hides) to spoiling TAR :)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: mswood on November 13, 2008, 09:58:23 PM
Was that in the opening credits?

5000 POSTS! woo hoo :wohoo:
5,000 posts full of meaningful contribution(:hides) to spoiling TAR :)
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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 13, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
Was that in the opening credits?

5000 POSTS! woo hoo :wohoo:
5,000 posts full of meaningful contribution(:hides) to spoiling TAR :)
:funny: :nopoints :killme:
I thnk Michael got 5000 posts from all those Big Brother updates he was committed to ..NOT!  :lol:

WTG Michael :party:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 13, 2008, 10:08:50 PM
 :lol: :lol:
LMFAO!
i knew that would be used against me some time in the near future...
ok ok ill stop hijacking the thread for now

when is my position going to change to "I live at RFF!"  (:;)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Mrs Shrek on November 14, 2008, 03:55:32 AM
 :noway: I just realised it's my 1 year anniversary of joining RFF :jumpy: :wohoo:

 :sucks Guess I've got a bit of catching up to Michael post count though :lol: blahblah
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2008, 09:03:57 AM
Congrats to Michael!! I blame it on the blondes... :girly :girly :girly

And Happy Anniversary to MrsShrek!! who always brings us quality....  :hugs:

 :partie: :party:  :partie:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 14, 2008, 10:26:47 AM
 :lol:  similar carriage in the park, but the horse could be the same.   :funny:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 14, 2008, 10:56:58 AM
Well i know T/S's "Take us back" might sound like they quitted trying for the FF.
But i really think it could be any scenario which made Terence said that. Like getting lost on a cab and asking the cab driver to take them back to where they were?.. :duno:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2008, 11:11:12 AM
What park, Boingo?? ???
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Boingo on November 14, 2008, 11:33:46 AM
What park, Boingo?? ???

The same park where the cathedral, statue, and music museum are located.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2008, 11:57:13 AM
Well i know T/S's "Take us back" might sound like they quitted trying for the FF.
But i really think it could be any scenario which made Terence said that. Like getting lost on a cab and asking the cab driver to take them back to where they were?.. :duno:
Or he left something behind? but it could be directions too.

Happy anniversary Mrs Shrek! :party: :pickle:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 14, 2008, 01:16:35 PM
I seem to remember that gingerman28 was pretty good at putting together a time line of events for TAR episodes.  I could sure use one for this episode, especially with the new screencaps.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: jose on November 14, 2008, 04:58:45 PM
 i cant wait for the epsiode, and how do u know alot of these
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 14, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
:welcome: to RFF jose! Glad you found us...

And the team here  has great fun researching and tracking down the "clues"!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2008, 10:51:09 PM
Bonnie Hunt (http://www.bonniehunt.com/thisweek/index.php) has updated her site .......... :tup:
(http://i34.[banned image hosting site].com/1g690g.jpg)
(http://i33.[banned image hosting site].com/11vk3ki.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2008, 10:58:17 PM
I seem to remember that gingerman28 was pretty good at putting together a time line of events for TAR episodes.  I could sure use one for this episode, especially with the new screencaps.
Gingerman is too busy chasing his wench around Dracula's castle  :lol:  :-[  ;) , and I miss his summaries too gator!

If anyone wants to take a shot at it please do !!

I'll guess but I know its not what you want gator
from airport
Hours of operation at the Chicken plant
Roadblock/ Chickens find the golden egg and the Fast Forward = eat Sheep's ass
Nomad Falcon thingy after the Roadblock get clue to detours
Detour = Deliver something by crane/trucks
Detour = Find the milk place in the cow costume
U-Turn? Dallas & Toni
pitstop
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 14, 2008, 11:21:11 PM
 :2cents: I agree, the falcon business (do they bother to go to the Sunkar farm? probably not, the horses need room to do their thing) is just route info. The cavalry (as well as most of the stuff we saw in the introflashes) is just window dressing. Still not sure about Dandrew walking the boonies.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 14, 2008, 11:46:57 PM
^^ I'll guess they are walking the boonies on a trail to the falcons.

Gosh a team is really leaving this week. I am not emotionally prepared for anyone but Dandrew to leave  :lol:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 15, 2008, 06:34:42 AM
I seem to remember that gingerman28 was pretty good at putting together a time line of events for TAR episodes.  I could sure use one for this episode, especially with the new screencaps.
Gingerman is too busy chasing his wench around Dracula's castle  :lol:  :-[  ;) , and I miss his summaries too gator!

If anyone wants to take a shot at it please do !!

I'll guess but I know its not what you want gator
from airport
Hours of operation at the Chicken plant
Roadblock/ Chickens find the golden egg and the Fast Forward = eat Sheep's ass
Nomad Falcon thingy after the Roadblock get clue to detours
Detour = Deliver something by crane/trucks
Detour = Find the milk place in the cow costume
U-Turn? Dallas & Toni
pitstop


puddin,

Thanks for the help.

gator

Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 15, 2008, 06:48:25 AM
from airport
Hours of operation at the Chicken plant
Roadblock/ Chickens find the golden egg and the Fast Forward = eat Sheep's ass
Nomad Falcon thingy after the Roadblock get clue to detours
Detour = Deliver something by crane/trucks
Detour = Find the milk place in the cow costume
U-Turn? Dallas & Toni
pitstop


Here are my thoughts about when the FF clue surfaces.
I look forward to your comments
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: jose on November 15, 2008, 07:03:55 AM

how long have u been here, i think i can help out  :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 15, 2008, 07:08:19 AM
Horse & carriage

Is this important or just filler?  I am leaning towards filler.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 15, 2008, 09:55:26 AM
The FF is most likely the first clue.

And i believe the Detour is before the Roadblock? I think it is mentioned that the 30,000 chickens is a Roadblock, while another clue says teams pass many chickens to the pitstop?

Am i right? :duno:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 11:09:09 AM
The FF is most likely the first clue.

And i believe the Detour is before the Roadblock? I think it is mentioned that the 30,000 chickens is a Roadblock, while another clue says teams pass many chickens to the pitstop?

Am i right? :duno:
The Roadblock has to be first, we hear Tina at the airport getting in the cab say go to Alel Agro chicken plant and then we see the teams bunched at the gate, the person letting them in the gate is wearing the white overalls and green foot thngys that we see Tina slip on.

The Fast Forward is at Alel Agro cluebox so is before @ the Roadblock. Phil even says "a fast forward race determines who jumps ahead ..", watch the videos.

Horse & carriage

Is this important or just filler?  I am leaning towards filler.

Probably pretty shots of Almaty, a filler.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gingerman28 on November 15, 2008, 11:33:25 AM
If the first task is a ROADBLOCK at the Chicken Factory  - to find the golden egg - why is Dan holding a RED ROADBLOCK ENVELOPE in his hand when he and Andrew are riding in the cab of the red crane truck (they are lost and can't find their way to wherever they are going.)

And I wonder what the shot of the three peasant women sitting on the bench means.  They each place a coin into the hand of someone passing by.

At least TPTB hid Terrance behind a tree when he throws up whatever he managed to eat.

And one unaccounted for shot of Andrew and Dan following a marked path (not orange and yellow arrow on a stake in bg) heading to wherever the horsemen are (and they probably are native Kazaks, and not Mongolian)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 15, 2008, 12:30:44 PM
Maybe if we ask Chateau real nice he can give us a time estimate, which team might be ahead  :jam:

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The confessional is here about the 8:30 mark

Dallas: when I ask my mom to step it up, she does, shes able to push herself, there's times where she needs a break and uh, and I wouldn't expect her to go all out all the time

 

I'd say Terance & Sarah's is later than Toni & Dallas.  Both are very close to sunset at 8 pm.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Hooky on November 15, 2008, 01:03:16 PM
If the first task is a ROADBLOCK at the Chicken Factory  - to find the golden egg - why is Dan holding a RED ROADBLOCK ENVELOPE in his hand when he and Andrew are riding in the cab of the red crane truck (they are lost and can't find their way to wherever they are going.)

They might just have that envelope out because the teams are supposed to keep all their clues before they check in at the Pit Stop. It could still be from earlier in the leg.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 01:05:28 PM


I'd say Terance & Sarah's is later than Toni & Dallas.  Both are very close to sunset at 8 pm.
Thank you Chateau  :hearts:

If the first task is a ROADBLOCK at the Chicken Factory  - to find the golden egg - why is Dan holding a RED ROADBLOCK ENVELOPE in his hand when he and Andrew are riding in the cab of the red crane truck (they are lost and can't find their way to wherever they are going.)

And I wonder what the shot of the three peasant women sitting on the bench means.  They each place a coin into the hand of someone passing by.

At least TPTB hid Terrance behind a tree when he throws up whatever he managed to eat.

And one unaccounted for shot of Andrew and Dan following a marked path (not orange and yellow arrow on a stake in bg) heading to wherever the horsemen are (and they probably are native Kazaks, and not Mongolian)

Maybe they have to deliver the golden egg by crane GMan and that why we see the red clue  :funny:? or maybe they haven't put the clue away yet? they don't discard them after the task so? I dunno! I'm hoping for some new scenes during the ND/Navy game!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: asamber1 on November 15, 2008, 02:49:22 PM
Maybe they get the Roadblock clue with the FF clue.

Nick/Starr and Terrance/Sarah both dont do the RB and go for the FF

Thus when Terrance and Sarah loose they have to "go back" because they need to do the roadblock back at the place they left.   Otherwise Terrance saying "we need to go back" makes no sense.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: mswood on November 15, 2008, 02:50:08 PM
Thanks Chateau and I hope you are right.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: mswood on November 15, 2008, 02:52:15 PM
Teams usually get the roadblock clue with whatever task is first for the leg.

In this one its the one where we see the race between Andrew & Dan and Nick & Starr for grabbing the clue (no idea who opens it first, since both partners must be near them to do so).
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 03:44:39 PM
Nick grabs the clue out of Dans hand who gets there first and you can see the red and green cards in Nicks hand
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Belle Book on November 15, 2008, 05:44:28 PM
Well, if Terence & Sarah's confessional is later than Toni & Dallas's, that means Toni & Dallas make it past Kazakhstan at least.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: DrAw on November 15, 2008, 10:01:49 PM
Sarah looks like a zombie in that pic lol ^
and also...i don't see how Terrence & Sarah could recover from the FF, especially against Toni & Dallas who have one of the ebst placements on this season, coming in 2nd or 3rd for the past few legs. I do believe Nick and Starr achieve the FF, putting them in first, breaking records.

1. Nick & Starr

There is no evidence as to where Ken & Tina is, so i figure they probably have a really good leg if they aren't featured in any of the previews.

2. Ken & Tina

I don't think there is a U-Turn on this leg. There would be no chance for the team with the fast forward to use it, they never put those things on the same leg. So Toni & Dallas should have pretty smooth sailing. I also checked the weather reports for Almaty on that day and it seems it was sunny earlier on and then overcast came in later, and its clear that Toni & Dallas have a sunny interview, putting them ahead of T&S

3. Toni & Dallas

As much as i'd love to see Dandrew get the hell out of the game, i think T&S were a little unlucky here. However, in their interview they look happy as hell. And knowing Terrence, he'd be whining like a complete baby. So it's either non-elimination(which is not the case) or T&S are safe. The other thing is maybe they are talking about losing their passports, laughing it off.

4. Terrence & Sarah
5. Dan & Andrew - Eliminated

perhaps its wishful thinking there. But one of the above two i'm almost certain will come in last. Otherwise this race is just not worth watching Dandrew come in second last!

* May i add that Phil said a team that always makes dumb mistakes will not finish the race because of it. I would guess this is T&S because on the second leg they totally bipassed the taxi parking lot and waited for a long time doing nothing. And in the episode prior to this, they went through the bird pens, shifting through the birdseed to find a clue.


i'd also like to add this from www.ctv.ca
-Racers have a close encounter of the bird kind when 30,000 chickens cross their road to the pit stop. Teams encounter Mongol warriors and receive clues via Falcon Delivery. In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important. And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can't stomach the meat from a sheep's rear.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 15, 2008, 10:32:55 PM
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Well, if Terence & Sarah's confessional is later than Toni & Dallas's, that means Toni & Dallas make it past Kazakhstan at least.

That may be a dangerous leap to make.  The confessionals could be filmed when teams are ready.   When they are ready may not be in the same order as they arrived.   ;)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 10:45:08 PM
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Well, if Terence & Sarah's confessional is later than Toni & Dallas's, that means Toni & Dallas make it past Kazakhstan at least.

That may be a dangerous leap to make.  The confessionals could be filmed when teams are ready.   When they are ready may not be in the same order as they arrived.   ;)
Exactly Chateau. This is not the actual pitstop, well most likely not, as pointed out by Chateau, rather its a place where they set them up to do interviews. No way to know which team is ahead of what team but it gives us some hope :popcorn:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 15, 2008, 10:47:32 PM



I don't think there is a U-Turn on this leg. There would be no chance for the team with the fast forward to use it, they never put those things on the same leg.


I agree DrAw  :tup:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: serendipity on November 16, 2008, 01:55:59 AM
In TAR history it seems that even a team lost the FF battle still managed to survive in that leg.

For example:
TAR 4 - Kelly/Jon in Malaysia (beat by Richien/Chip), finished 4 out of 5
TAR 6 - Jonathan/Victora in France (beat by Adam/Rebecca), finished 5 out of 6
TAR 7 - Rob/Amber in South Africa (beat by Ray/Deana), finished 5 out of 7
TAR 9 - Joseph/Monica in Greece (beat by Eric/Jeremy), finished 2 out of 6
TAR 9 - Ray/Yolanda in Thailand (beat by BJ/Tyler), finished 3 out of 4

So even Nick/Starr or Terence/Sarah failed to win the FF, from statistics it does not necessarily mean that they would get eliminated.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 16, 2008, 04:28:29 AM
In TAR history it seems that even a team lost the FF battle still managed to survive in that leg.

For example:
TAR 4 - Kelly/Jon in Malaysia (beat by Richien/Chip), finished 4 out of 5
TAR 6 - Jonathan/Victora in France (beat by Adam/Rebecca), finished 5 out of 6
TAR 7 - Rob/Amber in South Africa (beat by Ray/Deana), finished 5 out of 7
TAR 9 - Joseph/Monica in Greece (beat by Eric/Jeremy), finished 2 out of 6
TAR 9 - Ray/Yolanda in Thailand (beat by BJ/Tyler), finished 3 out of 4

So even Nick/Starr or Terence/Sarah failed to win the FF, from statistics it does not necessarily mean that they would get eliminated.

Good statistics. But at the same time, are there any teams who went for the FF and got eliminated because they didn't get it? I know Brandon and Nicole didn't get their FF and wasn't eliminated. Nobody snatched the FF with Nic/Don, Tyler/James, Rob/Kim and David/Mary got their own FF, Oswald/Danny and Uchenna/Joyce got their own FF as well. Maybe... a season of firsts remember?

Well. Maybe not. Momily got eliminated (dang, they could have not been eliminated) because they missed the FF. :(
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: serendipity on November 16, 2008, 11:00:14 AM
In TAR history it seems that even a team lost the FF battle still managed to survive in that leg.

For example:
TAR 4 - Kelly/Jon in Malaysia (beat by Richien/Chip), finished 4 out of 5
TAR 6 - Jonathan/Victora in France (beat by Adam/Rebecca), finished 5 out of 6
TAR 7 - Rob/Amber in South Africa (beat by Ray/Deana), finished 5 out of 7
TAR 9 - Joseph/Monica in Greece (beat by Eric/Jeremy), finished 2 out of 6
TAR 9 - Ray/Yolanda in Thailand (beat by BJ/Tyler), finished 3 out of 4

So even Nick/Starr or Terence/Sarah failed to win the FF, from statistics it does not necessarily mean that they would get eliminated.

Good statistics. But at the same time, are there any teams who went for the FF and got eliminated because they didn't get it? I know Brandon and Nicole didn't get their FF and wasn't eliminated. Nobody snatched the FF with Nic/Don, Tyler/James, Rob/Kim and David/Mary got their own FF, Oswald/Danny and Uchenna/Joyce got their own FF as well. Maybe... a season of firsts remember?

Well. Maybe not. Momily got eliminated (dang, they could have not been eliminated) because they missed the FF. :(

In my mind, I don't remember any situation where a team was eliminated in a FF fight.
Brandon/Nicole's case is different because they just gave up but not beat by another team.
Nancy/Emily could have survived even losing the FF, they were eliminated because of other mistake (not finishing detour).

And here are more examples:
Derek/Drew in TAR 3 failed to get the FF in Leg 1 (Mexico) but still avoided elimination, finished 11 out of 12.
Andrew/Dan failed to get the FF in New Zealand (Leg 4) but finished 6 out of 8.

I remember that only Mary/Peach were eliminated because of not getting the FF in Hong Kong.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gingerman28 on November 16, 2008, 11:15:10 AM

 


i'd also like to add this from www.ctv.ca
- In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important. And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can't stomach the meat from a sheep's rear.


Perhaps the thing left behind is the Golden Egg which teams were supposed to carry with them to the pit stop.  In past TARs teams have located something and had to carry it with them to the end.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 11:32:08 AM

 


i'd also like to add this from www.ctv.ca
- In a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important. And a team takes a huge risk only to find they can't stomach the meat from a sheep's rear.


Perhaps the thing left behind is the Golden Egg which teams were supposed to carry with them to the pit stop.  In past TARs teams have located something and had to carry it with them to the end.

Bingo! I so bet you are exactly right here! :hugs:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 11:37:44 AM
Do we know people loose a passport in this leg or the next.  Because that sounds more like the blunder that costs a team from finishing the final leg.
Everyone is assuming from this clue "in a haste to avoid elimination, one team leaves behind something very important" that it is this leg. For all we know its the golden egg or something.
The unprecedented mistake thread is here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,16823.0.html) if you all want to make a guess whatever there.
:neener:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 11:41:29 AM
Would this be the classic "the Chicken or the EGG" ??

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Puddin rules! :ghug:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gator27 on November 16, 2008, 02:13:52 PM
Interesting how we get caught up in one lead and do not always think of the other possibilities.

Eggs today, passports next week?!?!?!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 02:24:15 PM
Interesting how we get caught up in one lead and do not always think of the other possibilities.

Eggs today, passports next week?!?!?!
I'll guess lost passports=the final leg.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Belle Book on November 16, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
You may be right in thinking that the golden egg was left behind.  Anyway, we'll find out tonight.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 16, 2008, 08:51:31 PM
There are a couple of puppet theaters in Almaty: one public, one private. I'm guessing the one they used is right across the street (http://www.wikimapia.org/1954376/Puppet-Theatre) from Panfilov park.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 08:55:20 PM
I'll get some pictures  :sucks brb
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: DrAw on November 16, 2008, 08:56:05 PM
okay so if one team is supposed to not finish the race because they constantly make stupid mistakes, than its Dan & Andrew, and why else would they not finish the race. I'm guessing they lose their passports!

Boot List:
1. Toni & Dallas
2. Nick & Starr
3. Dan & Andrew
4. Ken & Tina
5. Terrence & Sarah
6. Kelly & Christy
7. Aja & Ty
8. Marissa & Brooke
9. Mark & Bill
10. Anthony & Stephanie
11. Anita & Arthur

I am almost 99% certain that the winners will be Nick & Starr or Toni & Dallas. However, in the interview with Nick at Pittock Mansion, i noticed no significat happiness when talking about dallas and starr. I will assume Toni & Dallas take it as of now. But Nick & Starr still have a chance at winning
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 08:58:03 PM
Oh and kudos to Chateau for having the lighting right on Terence and Sarah vs Dallas and Toni!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 08:59:49 PM
okay so if one team is supposed to not finish the race because they constantly make stupid mistakes, than its Dan & Andrew, and why else would they not finish the race. I'm guessing they lose their passports!

Boot List:
1. Toni & Dallas
2. Nick & Starr
3. Dan & Andrew
4. Ken & Tina
5. Terrence & Sarah
6. Kelly & Christy
7. Aja & Ty
8. Marissa & Brooke
9. Mark & Bill
10. Anthony & Stephanie
11. Anita & Arthur

I am almost 99% certain that the winners will be Nick & Starr or Toni & Dallas. However, in the interview with Nick at Pittock Mansion, i noticed no significat happiness when talking about dallas and starr. I will assume Toni & Dallas take it as of now. But Nick & Starr still have a chance at winning
I don't think theres any way Nick and Starr can lose this race.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 16, 2008, 09:00:49 PM
oh REALLY puddin?
well you thought wrong, MUHAHAHAHA!

GO NICK AND STARR! I WANT YOU TO WIN THIS RACE!

*lightning and thunder*
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:11:00 PM
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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:11:53 PM
oh REALLY puddin?
well you thought wrong, MUHAHAHAHA!

GO NICK AND STARR! I WANT YOU TO WIN THIS RACE!

*lightning and thunder*
Yeah but you don't mean it so it doesn't count neener
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:19:18 PM
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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 16, 2008, 09:28:26 PM
okay so if one team is supposed to not finish the race because they constantly make stupid mistakes, than its Dan & Andrew, and why else would they not finish the race. I'm guessing they lose their passports!

Boot List:
1. Toni & Dallas
2. Nick & Starr
3. Dan & Andrew
4. Ken & Tina
5. Terrence & Sarah
6. Kelly & Christy
7. Aja & Ty
8. Marissa & Brooke
9. Mark & Bill
10. Anthony & Stephanie
11. Anita & Arthur

I am almost 99% certain that the winners will be Nick & Starr or Toni & Dallas. However, in the interview with Nick at Pittock Mansion, i noticed no significat happiness when talking about dallas and starr. I will assume Toni & Dallas take it as of now. But Nick & Starr still have a chance at winning
I don't think theres any way Nick and Starr can lose this race.

puddin, how many Amazing Race finales have been won by teams who shouldn't have won them?
Zach/Flo, Chip/Kim, Freddie/Kendra, Uchenna/Joyce, Eric/Danielle are all in that category to my way of classifying.
Nick/Starr have to be considered favorites, but nobody ever has a lock on an Amazing Race finale. World Race Productions works too hard to put in random elements in the finale which give every F3 team a legitimate shot.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:30:54 PM
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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: nathyn on November 16, 2008, 09:31:38 PM
I don't think theres any way Nick and Starr can lose this race.

Sure there is. Toni and Dallas lose their passports. Dandrew lands in Maine, Ken and Tina, being the only other team to have a first place, barely beat out Nick and Starr in Portland. But yeah, it's looking a lot like Nick and Starr win.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 09:33:29 PM
I'm glad we got to see our marionettes for a second, anyway!

DIdn't that second detour sound as though it would take MUCH longer? No wonder no one chose it, lol...
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:44:14 PM
detour clue

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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:50:01 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/rawalsh/TAR13/EP8/001611-16-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 09:55:40 PM
awwwwwwwwwwwwww poor Sarah


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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 16, 2008, 10:02:19 PM
Aha! I wondered what those little things (next to the dombira) in the introcap were: shankobyz (http://www.bukhara-carpets.com/kazakh-musical-instruments.html) (bottom of page)/shan kobyz (http://www.spring.kz/?lang=en&id=4&subid=1&num=3). I agree with the others: the cow-walk was the best choice.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 10:17:54 PM
I don't think theres any way Nick and Starr can lose this race.

Sure there is. Toni and Dallas lose their passports. Dandrew lands in Maine, Ken and Tina, being the only other team to have a first place, barely beat out Nick and Starr in Portland. But yeah, it's looking a lot like Nick and Starr win.
I think any of the teams left, accept Dandrew (who were funny tonight, not that they aren't deserving they are just so damn lucky!) deserve to win. Gotta love Dallas and moms upbeat attitude! And I'm a huge fan of Ken and Tina, I would not count them out yet for the final 3 (keeping my hopes up here).
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: nathyn on November 16, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
FF menu. Too bad it doesn't say what the dish is.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 16, 2008, 11:29:02 PM
You can see the regular menu  HERE (http://www.alasha.kz/index.php?opt=menu&razd=kuxni&menu_id=5), just browse thru the choices on the upper right...
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 16, 2008, 11:34:01 PM
So could they have had something other than Sheep's Butt   :duno:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: nathyn on November 16, 2008, 11:42:36 PM
BTW, on the insider clips, it seems like they cut out the forgot something important hint. Nick and Starr left their fanny pack at the restaurant (which ironically is what was predicted for T/S).
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 16, 2008, 11:44:24 PM
The Amazing Race 13 - Rise and Shine ( the boys were in Dubai for 17 hours! Got there at 6 am left at 11 pm)
As the teams wake up after spending the night in Kazakhstan, frat boys Andrew and Dan finally arrive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTT-_58iasM

The Amazing Race 13 - Nick and Starr Slip Up
The siblings leave an important item at the restaurant and have to go back to retrieve it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMf066IRbKo
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: patlini on November 17, 2008, 12:17:56 AM
ok - what i miss

been at the Madonna concert tonight  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 12:35:13 AM
Boy are your priorities screwed! :lol3:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: girlracer265 on November 17, 2008, 03:41:50 AM
toni and dallas were hilarious in the cow costume. :wohoo:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 17, 2008, 10:19:43 AM
I got chickens.  Finally.   :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gingerman28 on November 17, 2008, 10:45:41 AM
Has anyone noted that our spoiler (many pages ago) noted that he saw a team at the Dubai airport? Looks like he must have seen Dan and Andrew since they were on a flight connecting there on the way to Almaty.  And all those flights must have taken up a lot of time via Frankfurt and Moscow.  For instance, the flight to Moscow left at 04.30 hours and reached Almaty at 01.20. hours the next day  So this accounts for one of our missing days.  We see shots of Nick and Starr and Dallas and Toni boarding two different airplanes, one of which is a daylight boarding.

Can't any of these teams read clues and instructions correctly?  Both Ken and Tina and Dan and Andrew really screwed up and could have been eliminated if Terrance and Sarah had quit the FF as soon as they saw what they had to eat.  But Terrance's determination cost them the game.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 11:18:01 AM
I think the Dubai sighting was May 6th? I'd have to look for it Gman.
Also Dan & Andrew were not racing to the chicken farm gates! It was edited to make it seem so.
When they are running they have red clue in hand and if you watch the insider clips they had time to mingle, the other racers slept in these Mongolian Huts, I can't remember what they are called.

The Amazing Race 13 - Rise and Shine ( the boys were in Dubai for 17 hours! Got there at 6 am left at 11 pm)
As the teams wake up after spending the night in Kazakhstan, frat boys Andrew and Dan finally arrive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTT-_58iasM
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 11:59:53 AM
 Yurts (http://www.bluemountainyurts.co.nz/)

So a prime bunching here again...
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: DrRox on November 17, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
Hello TAR Detectives,

What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 17, 2008, 03:13:24 PM
Has anyone noted that our spoiler (many pages ago) noted that he saw a team at the Dubai airport? Looks like he must have seen Dan and Andrew since they were on a flight connecting there on the way to Almaty.  And all those flights must have taken up a lot of time via Frankfurt and Moscow.  For instance, the flight to Moscow left at 04.30 hours and reached Almaty at 01.20. hours the next day  So this accounts for one of our missing days.  We see shots of Nick and Starr and Dallas and Toni boarding two different airplanes, one of which is a daylight boarding.

Can't any of these teams read clues and instructions correctly?  Both Ken and Tina and Dan and Andrew really screwed up and could have been eliminated if Terrance and Sarah had quit the FF as soon as they saw what they had to eat.  But Terrance's determination cost them the game.

GMAN, you are confused on the flights times. I have SU634 to Moscow as actually leaving DELHI at 0450 even though it is now listed as 0430. It arrives in Moscow just before 0900 local time. The return flight LH648 left Moscow at 1320(your 1:20 pm is correct, just not for what you said) and arrived Almaty at 0110+1, 110am.
What accounts for a missisng day is a 36 hour extended pitstop after leg 7 in Delhi.

EDITOR'S NOTE - I was confused on this(thinking that i had it all in my head from the work done in this area when I did not have in my head error-free), as Chateau has noted above. It is Lufthansa 648 from Frankfurt that leaves at 1320. As stated in an earlier I have no route from Moscow to Almaty other than ones that are way too early or way too late for what. I will guess that Chateau is right about Turkish Airliens form Istanbul only because by reverse engineering there is nothign else that fits.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 03:24:34 PM
Hello TAR Detectives,

What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.

:welcome2:  to RFF DrRox!

This references the Sunkar site that we think handled this, so a golden eagle seems very possible! I just assumed a falcon of some sort so now I am even more awed..

http://kazakhstan.orexca.com/eagle_hunting_kazakhstan.shtml

http://kazakhstan.orexca.com/hunting_golden_eagle.shtml
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 17, 2008, 03:26:12 PM
Hello TAR Detectives,

What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.
Falcons Fly Home by Modern Means
Javid Hassan, Arab News
    
RIYADH, 18 May 2004 In an effort to reintroduce 41 falcons into their natural habitat, a special mission will take off today to air freight the birds to the Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan at the initiative of Prince Sultan, second deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation.

Veterinary Dr. Jamie Samour, medical director of Fahd ibn Sultan Falcon Center, told Arab News that the falcons are being released into a protected area of Kazakhstan, where they originally came from.

The birds belong to a species known as Saker, indigenous to that country and are worth between SR5,000 and SR500,000 each.

Last year, 28 birds were flown to Kazakhstan under what is known as the Prince Sultan Falcon Release Program in Central Asia. Most of the birds were donated to Prince Sultan by Saudi hunters.


Why would anyone want to use eagles or goshawks as falcons when Kazakhstan received a gift of a select small number (28) of real falcons 4 years ago?

 
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 03:33:31 PM
Hello TAR Detectives,

What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.
Welcome DrRox :hithere:. Moi knew it was a hunting eagle  (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,17652.msg353871.html#msg353871)  :sucks
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 03:35:26 PM
Thanks puddin!!

Sounds like 10 centuries of well respected tradition to me:

Hunting with Golden Eagles is one of the most unique features of Kazakh life. The hunter is named kusbegi or berkutchi. The experience of wild bird training was gained by Kazakh kusbegi over centuries, the secrets being passed from the father to the son and kept secret. At the present time there are few people with such a name. These masters have an innate gift for training wild birds. For hunting they tame falcons, golden eagles and eagles. Names of birds are given depending on their appearance and battle characteristics. Hunting with Golden Eagles has been going on for ten centuries. To present a teenager with a nestling of a hunting bird was considered to wish to him to begin the courageous, strong dzhigit. To train a golden eagle is a high art. The caught bird gradually becomes accustomed to the owner. To do this, the berkutchi some nights doesn't close his eyes and prevents the golden eagle from sleeping. The bird can eat (bits of uncooked meat) only from the hands of the owner. Afterwards, the bird will get used to the hunter, his horse and dog, and the berkutchi begins to train it to hunt for stuffed fox; only after this the real hunting begins. Specially trained golden eagles hunt for small animals: rabbits, foxes, partridge, and black hazel grouses.


Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Chateau d If on November 17, 2008, 03:52:39 PM
Quote
The return flight LH648 left Moscow at 1320(your 1:20 pm is correct, just not for what you said) and arrived Almaty at 0110+1, 110am.

I thought LH 648 was flying out of Frankfurt.

I think Terence & Sarah's trip from Moscow to Almaty made a stop in Istanbul.  It's the only flight that lands in Almaty at 1:20 am.   And we have the gate agent telling them that is the time when they land in Almaty.

Terence & Sara leaving May 9th  "It will be landing in Almaty at 1:20 in the night."
Take Aeroflot SU 536 leaving DEL at 4:30 am and arriving in SVO Moscow  at 9:30 am
Take Turkish Airlines TK 1414 leaving SVO at 1:40 pm and arriving in IST Istanbul at 3:55 pm
Take TK 1352  leaving IST at 5:00 pm and arriving in ALA at 1:20 am on May 10th
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: DrRox on November 17, 2008, 05:04:15 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome!!!!


Hello TAR Detectives,

What a great forum. You guys are amazing. I do have a question and hope this is the right place to add it. Does anyone know what kind of bird was used in the falonry? I am assuming it was a golden eagle due to the size and after doing some research on Kazak falonry sites. But, I am not an ornithologist, so it could be a large goshawk too. I read where they are doing breeding on goshawks to increase the size of the birds in Kazakstan. Thanks for your time.


Why would anyone want to use eagles or goshawks as falcons when Kazakhstan received a gift of a select small number (28) of real falcons 4 years ago?

 


I was pretty aware of people in the US using perigrine falcons and goshawks for hunting. Some people even use snow owls too. Apparently, snow owls have a pretty unique ability to bend their wings when flying through trees in the winter time to hunt. I have seen nature documentaries about this in areas where there is lots of birch type tree forests. After doing some internet research last night and this morning, the term "falconry" seems to have become a pretty generic term for using birds of prey to hunt and not specific to using only "falcons". When I was watching last night, I was sort of shocked at the size of that bird. I mean, it was huge. It seems they use the golden eagles to hunt small animals, up to the size of roe deer. As stated above, over ten centuries of use of birds of prey in Central Asia. It also makes sense that they would develop ties with the Arab bedouins. The flat treeless terrane makes perfect use for using birds of prey to hunt food.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2008, 05:24:22 PM
Chateau this is from the Intouch article that marigold just posted in T/S's thread....

Sarah: We were really happy. What they didn't show on the episode last night was that we couldn't get on the flight with everyone else. We were stuck at the airport. We knew Dan and Andrew got on a crappy flight, but that was even better than what we had, which was nothing.
Terence: We almost got stuck in Moscow.
Sarah: Yeah. I felt like a lot of flights would go to Kazakhstan from Moscow, so we just needed to get ourselves to Moscow. I figured we could figure out how to get to Kazakhstan from there. In Moscow, for various reasons, we weren't allowed to leave immigration. When we couldn't get on another flight we became concerned we'd have to go back to India. By the time we arrived at the chicken factory we assumed we were so much farther behind all the other teams. When we saw them standing there we were very relieved.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Belle Book on November 17, 2008, 08:36:24 PM
FF menu. Too bad it doesn't say what the dish is.

That's probably why Terence didn't realize it was a meat dish.  It was a trap which got him.

Belle Book
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 17, 2008, 08:51:38 PM
In their interviews Sarah and Terence would not have gone for the Fast Forward had they known it was  eating meat.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: gingerman28 on November 17, 2008, 09:51:43 PM
Chateau this is from the Intouch article that marigold just posted in T/S's thread....

Sarah: We were really happy. What they didn't show on the episode last night was that we couldn't get on the flight with everyone else. We were stuck at the airport. We knew Dan and Andrew got on a crappy flight, but that was even better than what we had, which was nothing.
Terence: We almost got stuck in Moscow.
Sarah: Yeah. I felt like a lot of flights would go to Kazakhstan from Moscow, so we just needed to get ourselves to Moscow. I figured we could figure out how to get to Kazakhstan from there. In Moscow, for various reasons, we weren't allowed to leave immigration. When we couldn't get on another flight we became concerned we'd have to go back to India. By the time we arrived at the chicken factory we assumed we were so much farther behind all the other teams. When we saw them standing there we were very relieved.

Since their routing through Moscow was not planned ahead they did not have visas for entry into the Russian Federation, therefore they could not leave immigration.

TPTB must have had visas for all of the teams to enter Russia at a later date since a stop in Moscow was planned before the race actually started.  But these visas are held by the production team and the teams do not know where they will be going in advance.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: DrRox on November 18, 2008, 12:42:40 AM

Since their routing through Moscow was not planned ahead they did not have visas for entry into the Russian Federation, therefore they could not leave immigration.

TPTB must have had visas for all of the teams to enter Russia at a later date since a stop in Moscow was planned before the race actually started.  But these visas are held by the production team and the teams do not know where they will be going in advance.

This visa question is something that has intrigued me from TAR-1. Many countries require you to have the visa "stamped" in your passport before you even board a plane to that country. I do not have any idea is the Russian Federation is this way. I know they are VERY strict on advance visas. I looked at the visa section of the Russian Embassy in DC and the visa process is striking similiar to the one requred of a person going to Brasil. If you want to go to Brasil, you have to send your passport to one of their consulates in the US and get a visa stamped in the passport before you board a plane to Brasil. Brasil does this because we requre the same procedure of Brasilian citizens that want to come to the US. The Russian visa application page said the same thing. The visa for Brasil is good for entry into Brasil 90 days after it is issued. The time frames for tourist visas into Russia were much shorter in duration. I dont think they want Americans hanging around to much. The so-called Principle of Reciprosity.

The same was true of Egypt, when my parents lived there. I had to send my passport to DC to the Egyptian Embassy to get a visa stamped in it before I left. The airlines people would check to see that it was there, otherwise you never left the US.

So maybe Peach, add this question for next TARcon......ask the racers about visa stamps in their passports? I have always wondered if they knew where they were going before they left or when they left?
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2008, 01:16:33 AM
I think I may know the answer to this one already...

It is my understanding that the racers give their passports to production, who obtain multiple Visas, some for the countries to be visited, some as "decoys". So yes, when their passports are returned to them, they can see visas for a group of countries, but they don't know which ones of those countries will actually be visited. So they have an idea based on the possibilities, but they don't know exactly, if that makes sense? But I will be glad to ask to be sure!!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Slowhatch on November 18, 2008, 02:05:07 AM
There's also a backup purpose for multiple visas. If something goes wrong in country A (politics/weather/etc.), they can proceed to destination B without taking too much of a hit.

On a different subject, it looks like they switched the start mat--again--to the lawn of the Meridien. Compare the lobby cap to this photo (http://picasaweb.google.com/albaronas/India2008#5173363379376751602). And if you check Matt's Moscow shots, you'll see sync with the Moscow Meridien location next to Red Square. TAR13 is turning into the Meridien World Tour.  :lol:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2008, 02:11:43 AM
And the Meredian isn't exactly cheap either... :groan:

And why are they switching the Pitstop/Pitstarts around? Do they think we don't notice?? :funny:

Where was that clip??
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I’m Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 18, 2008, 02:25:42 AM
Don't you people ever sleep?  :hearts:


And why are they switching the Pitstop/Pitstarts around? Do they think we don't notice?? :funny:


Only people with TAR OCD  would notice :jam:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 18, 2008, 02:29:00 AM
lol  :hearts:we all have that!!!!!
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: DrRox on November 18, 2008, 03:09:04 AM
Thank you Peach and slowhatch!!!

I had pretty much come to that conclusion about 2003 I guess. It's nice to know that one's brain still works. I apologise for the dumb questions. As I get better at searching your site, I will not ask as many, I promise.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: jose on November 18, 2008, 05:37:58 AM
guys, have you thought someone could have bought more expensive airline tickets not havening enough money like in season 12, and i know Andrew done that becuse in the last episode they paid that man 1000, so cl :funny:early they dont know how to use there money
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 18, 2008, 07:03:43 AM
Airline tickets are paid by the WRP credit card...not from the team funds.

And the 1000 was not as bad as it sounded :lol:, although still a fair bit considering...

1,000.00 KZT       = $8.33576 USD
Kazakhstan Tenge    United States Dollars
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: Jobby on November 18, 2008, 10:42:01 PM
Is anyone not sad that Terence and Sarah were eliminated and only 7 minutes behind Dandrew? :meow:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 18, 2008, 11:27:36 PM
Is anyone not sad that Terence and Sarah were eliminated and only 7 minutes behind Dandrew? :meow:
Of course we are sad Joab, thats a silly question  :'(


Interesting article .....

The Amazing Racists (http://www.tvornottv.net/2008/11/18/the-amazing-racists/)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 19, 2008, 02:22:08 AM
I adore the race wholeheartedly, but the commercial spoofing the Borat like Kazakhstan disappointed me as well... 
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 19, 2008, 07:07:56 AM
Is anyone not sad that Terence and Sarah were eliminated and only 7 minutes behind Dandrew? :meow:

You bet. I'm not sad at all. Terence and Sarah took a (poorly) calculated risk and deserved elimination when that risk failed to pay off. I am also no fan of Dan and Andrew bumbling their way through to be competing in leg 9, but at least they were only inept and not mindless and they tried hard.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: snap-on on November 19, 2008, 10:06:53 AM
I think I may know the answer to this one already...

It is my understanding that the racers give their passports to production, who obtain multiple Visas, some for the countries to be visited, some as "decoys". So yes, when their passports are returned to them, they can see visas for a group of countries, but they don't know which ones of those countries will actually be visited. So they have an idea based on the possibilities, but they don't know exactly, if that makes sense? But I will be glad to ask to be sure!!

Do you think they gave back the passport just b4 the race started ? to make minimum time to "study" ?
I thought US peoples can have 'visa on arrival' on most countries  :duno:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: apskip on November 19, 2008, 12:33:06 PM
Peach:
Yes you are correct on the pre-race visa activity. They get many more visas than are actually used to prevent teams from knowing where they are going.

snap-on:
Teams are responsible for their wown passports for the entire reach. They take the passports of the sound-man and camerman to the ticket office when obtaining all airline flights. Although the episodes talk about "2 tickets to..." what is really happening is that the racers request 4 seats and hand over all 4 passports. They obviously get them back immediately.

On the question of on-arrival visas, you are correct for many countries, but that takes valuable time at the port of entry. What the Amazing Race does is obtain all the necessary visas in advance of the race to minimize delays getting through the airport.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 24, 2008, 11:26:31 PM
Phil LOVEEEEEEE !!!!!!!  :funny: Oh whats not to love!?  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:


In the first of a special two part series, Phil tries to convince a chicken farmer to dance like a chicken with him

The Amazing Race 13 - Phil's Video Diary: Kazakhstan: Part 2
While waiting for the teams to arrive, Phil receives a shot of Vitamin B-6 to keep his energy up. This is the second of a two part series in Kazakhstan.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2008, 11:41:40 PM
Oh my gosh I think I just died laughing! And Barry too cracks me up! :rotf:

New TARcon goal...see a recap of the chicken dance! :lol3:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: michael on November 25, 2008, 12:06:39 AM
hahaha, phil is the man.
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 25, 2008, 12:14:47 AM


Was nice of cBS to finally put them up right? I knew they were holding out! But I'm not complaining they are golden!
peach if you get Phil to do the chicken dance we demand video!  :sucks

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Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2008, 12:20:16 AM
Omg where did you find that chicken? :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

I wondered where the Diaries went...

If I get him to do the chicken dance I deserve a medal or something! (eeek...suppose I had to do it too? Maybe NOT such a good idea after all!  :funny:)
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: puddin on November 25, 2008, 02:19:12 AM
peach.........I demand you join Phil in the chicken dance!! For the love of RFF just do it peach! :yess:  :jumpy:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2008, 08:34:05 AM
Only if you, Ken,  and Chateau come help! :neener:
Title: Re: EP8:11/16 "I知 Like an Angry Cow"
Post by: tory on November 25, 2008, 05:00:04 PM
that was rolf ty ty for putting the vid on here, loved it!!!!